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You know that man? You know, I learned from the best.
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What's up? How you doing? I'm good.
I was having a little trouble because this thing a little funny to get it started, but got it, Got it going.
And now I'm hoping, uh, everybody else jumps in.
I know Nina is waiting.
And Gabriel, my cousin.
He said he was waiting, so I just I'm texting them just toe just to make sure that they can get the link so they can log in.
Yeah, that last that last the link that you sent took me right in, right? Right, Because that's the one that brings you in as a co host.
Okay, Well, okay.
So hopefully let's see, Once they get in, we'll have him on board.
We have some viewers.
Yeah, I was not long.
That was messing around on YouTube.
And I had run into a, um, another podcast with a bunch of guys that were talking to each other.
And and they have some people calling in.
What's up? How's it gon gave what's up? Gave me up.
Thats is it New York? New York? Go.
Well, you see way.
We don't want to make him feel left out.
I got plenty of Yankee stuff around, but you got You guys got me lost on the neck.
Okay, but we want you to share your thoughts on your team.
As a matter of fact, we're gonna start with you.
So you feel like you're part of this.
You're not gonna feel left out.
And so you know, But let me just introduce you to my other cousin.
He's from my father's side of the family.
That's Henry. He's wearing.
The New York had just like me.
And of course, he's a big time Nick fan.
Okay? And then you know Nina, you know my sister.
So don't introduce her, and you know me.
Um, there's What are you doing? I'm good.
How are you? All right. All right.
Right now I'm waiting for Well, we could get started.
One of my colleagues from work.
Hey, wanted to join in.
So I sent him the information.
Hopefully, he'll join us in a little while, and Nina send send the link to dominate because I sent him the previous link, and that one only takes you to the page, but not necessarily to this broadcast that he sees live.
So good starters off, Gabriel.
Because I know you got a lot thio say about Washington.
But, hey, I got the first question of the days.
So who's your daddy? E o.
You see them in, like, 2009 for the L.
D s against the twins? We got that when they won the Siri's.
But, I mean, I don't know right now, right now.
It's, you know, Russell Westbrook, I guess, um, I Oh, he's your daddy, okay? I don't know.
I wasn't too e excited about it.
Really? When I first got announced, and I think it was mostly just like the you know, nostalgia about John Wall and all that, and I still love John Wall, obviously.
And you know, he's a I still think he's a great player.
Um, but I just think, you know, the front office was just concerned with his last two years.
Like he just hadn't been on the hadn't been on the court at all.
And, you know, they wanted to clear up the cast, so I don't know.
I don't know really what the play was.
Also, Westbrook is like, if the plan on trying to give him a deal and, you know, keep him around for longer or what? But I mean, he's obviously still, I think he's still a pretty good player.
And, um, you know, I'm gonna be great for the fan base, if nothing else.
And, um, yeah, great for great.
For just attention, I guess.
And you know, him and him and Bradley Beal together.
You probably aren't gonna be the worst combo.
Um, you know, that's the question.
That's the question that I have Is that was there something, you know, behind the scenes that maybe we nobody heard about some friction between him and Bill, like, you know whose team is it? Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, really.
I think you know, they had been closed.
I know they had been closed.
Um, just based on, like, interviews that they had given Andi John Wall, like personally talking about their relationship.
Like, I think when? When? You know, John Wall lost his mother.
Um, on, like, Bradley Beal was one of the first people to, like, go console him about that.
And, you know, it just seemed like they had a pretty genuine connection.
At least you know this.
It could have, I guess, faded at some point over the last year or two.
Just given how little John Wall had been around, maybe or whatever.
You know, if they feel like he's distancing himself from the team.
But, um, I don't know.
I mean, you know, overall, like people in D.
C Love John Long always going to on, uh, you know, whenever you know, fans are allowed back to arenas and stuff and rockets come to play in D.
I'm sure, John Well, we'll get a standing ovation.
Uh, so I mean, yeah, you know, I'm still I'm still pretty pretty heartbroken, I guess, to see you just because he's been around for so long, you know, just, you know, again, that just nostalgia, like they drafted him in 2010 s.
So it's just it's, uh, it really it hurts.
It hurts, but we'll get over it.
So whose team is it? Bradley meals.
Or I think right now it's it's bills.
You know, just given his experience with the team, like rust, there's obviously a start.
Uh, but, you know, I think I think Bill just has a good thing going with the team.
And he got absolutely snubbed last year, Um, in terms of the all star flow into the All Star game, but, um, yeah, like 30 points a game.
You know, you can't, uh, can't deny that.
And I don't think you can.
You can try and take that away from him.
So, um, I hope that there is no tension between him and Russ.
Um, on I hope they could work something out, But in my eyes, I think it's, you know, it's bills right now.
Just because he's he's the guy, you know.
He's the guy on the team, right? And he's younger, of course.
So you know he's the next marquee player Russell, although he's still in his prime.
You know, he's already got a few years on him, so he's got to come in as a support to build and hopefully be able to blend in with him.
The one thing that you may get with Breast off Westbrook is that he's healthier.
Exactly been that, uh, and Wall coming off of a Achilles was an Achilles injury.
That's that's a serious was serious injury.
It will be interesting to see how explosive he will or will not be with Houston.
And maybe that's the thinking in terms of the front office.
Yeah, you know, I think that's what it is.
I think they just in their eyes, it's like, you know, we love John Wall, but at the end of the day, you know it's it's a business decision for them, and they have to do you know what's the best financially, you know, a certain level.
And so when you have a guy, please, I didn't even know how many games he's played over the last two seasons, but it can't be over, You know, 40 when you haven't got just, you know, sitting on the bench Yeah, it's sad as it is, you know? Yeah, He's just sitting on the bench for the whole season, and you're paying him more money than anyone else on the team.
It's like you gotta You gotta reconsider some things at some point.
So I think that's what it came down to for them.
And they were just, like, we've kind of, you know, more or less wasted enough time, kind of waiting for him to be back at his full potential when we could, you know, go out and get something for form.
And and that's what they did.
Ah, you have a fan in the chat.
Who says, you know, we were always any way love him, so yeah, I don't know.
You're not alone here.
I'm not. I'm not.
Yeah, I think that's I think that's one of my buddies I sent the link to.
So we you know it zits strong.
You know, like we're really you know, d c is always gonna love him.
D c is always gonna love him.
E think Russell Westbrook is going toe help you forget about him.
I think so, too.
Honestly, you know, I was looking at just some of the teams like social media today, and they had just some clips of Russell, um, you know, coming in.
And they had, like, a few practice clips and stuff, and, um, you know, he looks good.
Like it's It's Russell Westbrook.
You know, I'm not I'm not going to say I'm not gonna say I'm disappointed about it.
Really? Like he you know, he's still he's still a great player.
So, um, yeah, you know, I once once we get the regular season rolling, and I think once we get to see him and deal in action, um, people, people are probably gonna get over that pain.
They're not gonna forget about John Long, but they're gonna get over the pain a little bit quicker, right? Right, Nina, Any thoughts? I know your wheels attorney so far away.
You know, I mean, I think the Westbrook is is a phenomenal athlete.
Um, I just don't you know, I just don't see it.
Yeah, I'm not a fan.
And that was my gut reaction, you know? Oh, yeah.
Well, not a fan off.
Westbrook he just He's a triple double machine triple bubble machine.
He does more than any other player on the court that zone the war.
You would never want anything earlier, either.
The thing, though, I think I think that's the best players to play with.
Yeah, that's the thing.
I think I think that he can't with Russ is obviously, you know, like like obviously like an incredible Yeah, yeah, like he's obviously an incredible athlete.
And the, you know the production is obviously they're like in terms of the triple doubles, like you could look at his stats, but But what you're saying about, you know what you're saying about He does more than anyone else in the court, like back and sometimes be.
The problem is that he's trying to literally just do too much, you know, like you watch him in the playoffs and he's just like, you know, like they It's like possessions late in the game where they need to score.
And Russ is just flying all over the court like trying to do literally everything, and it's like just settle down, settle down and run a play or something.
It's not, Um yeah, no so that it's not exactly and that you know that that was my gut reaction.
Honestly, um, and is that you know? And I still hope that, you know, when I was talking about earlier that it's Bills team in my eyes, I hope that Russell doesn't come in and just try to do way too much and take the ball out of bills, hands and, um, and just kind of bleed everyone else on the court, you know? Stop Brooks.
You know Scott Brooks? He had in O k.
Right? You know, he was his coach in O k.
C. When he first came up.
No, that's true.
So he might be able to get in his ear about, you know, this is a new situation for you.
Let's tryto make something happened.
Just like we had back in.
See when? When they almost went toe the second round, right? Yeah, when he had hardened.
And when he had the rats and, uh, yeah, but that was the organizational decision to give up harder was not hardened in those days.
By the way, it was the sixth man.
He was a sixth man back then.
But, you know, at the same time, you gotta thank you.
Gotta think about six, man.
I mean, I just remember watching, you know? Yeah.
I mean, he was a six Magal.
I just remember 2012 watching, you know, the end of the finals against the heat and just thinking, like, you know, those three guys like they're gonna be back, you know, like, you know, they're gonna be back soon, and yeah, just didn't panned out.
That that will always be, I think, one of the biggest what ifs, um, is what if Russ keep away and hard and had stayed together together on the thunder? Yeah.
Oklahoma City might have been celebrating our championship.
Yeah, seriously, At least one. Yeah.
I mean, they you got to think, you gotta think they would have had at least absolutely, you know, even with LeBron, even with the way even with LeBron in the league, like, you gotta think they would have had at least one. Absolutely.
But that's not the way things go.
And actually, that's one thing I wanted.
So I was thinking about earlier when guys would come on this.
I know, But like I could just introduced Topic again.
It's what? Um yeah, like, I guess, what you don't like.
Well, the whole, you know, issue or non issue, I guess depending on how you see it of, like, superstar players, just like deciding to go wherever they want, you know? And there's kind of like, I guess, like a contingency now of people who say like that, it's a problem.
How? Superstars just decided to go.
Like, you know, they're just bullying teams and, like, hard.
And now, apparently requesting a trade with, like, I think, almost like three or four years left on his deal.
Um, like, like with an option.
So it could be, like, four years left on his deal.
And so people are kind of like questioning, I guess what? You know, the future of the league is gonna be if guys, we're just gonna start bullying front offices, you know, get them out of there if they want. Thio.
Yeah. I mean, it's a new era.
I mean, in years past, in prior generations, it was very, very rare.
Where you have superstars dictate where they would end up, like, you know what I mean? If they weren't happy given franchise, you know, trying to get management to actually trade into another team.
What what happened in the past would be a superstar player will get a coach fired.
That was very common.
A dad Magic did magic when he was with the Lakers.
He didn't like Paul West fall on as a result of that.
He work this, you know, channels behind the scenes to get him fired.
And ultimately Pat Riley became the head coach there.
So that was mawr, the common type of practice back in the day.
But things have changed in this era.
You know now, because you have a lot of players that they've learned how to use leverage to their advantage.
And as a result of that, you have the hardens of the world or other players that also, and even Westbrook.
I think there was whispers out there that Westbrook wanted Thio trading.
It didn't just happen by chance.
You know, franchises.
They're gonna comment, asking David in it.
Well, back in the day.
If I make time in the the The organization's used to trade away players as they pleased, you know, like if it was whatever was beneficial for the team, and even star players would get traded to other teams after they've been.
You know, they were past their prime, or at least the organization felt that they were past their prime.
And one of those such cases was, well, Frasier.
He was the face off the Knicks.
He took them to those championships and he got traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Mhm for they being another old news, just like that.
So I mean, the the script has been flipped at this point, you know, it's a business.
That's the reality of it.
That's one thing I learned in my many years following the game, uh, specifically, more so when I used to work at Madison Square Garden, I went in there with a purist mind at heart thinking, You know how pure the game was.
But that's when I really learned the business side off sports being at the professional level at the college level, and that's when I realized a It's big money.
There's a lot of money at stake.
Both sides have a lot, you know that they want to get out of it, and if it doesn't work for one party or the other.
They're gonna try to force a trade or or team is gonna try to trade a player.
It's just it's just the nature of the beast, and that's that's the reality of it.
But I think to your point, um is that it's killing the small market stuff.
That's Yeah, Oklahoma, Houston.
You know, like, if he leaves them, what they wanna have anything for the next 10 years, a t least this way they at least make it to the playoffs.
Yeah, and you know it, Z e.
I think it's, Ah, it puts guys like, um, you know, I guess like John is, for example, or just other guys like that who are kind of like stand out players on their teams.
Um, it kind of puts them in a weird position where I feel like, you know, maybe guys wanna guys want to go into the league and kind of stick it out with one team with the whole time and just kind of, um, you know, earn their way to a championship on one team.
Or maybe some guys, you know, Do you just wanna bounce around or whatever But, um, for the guys that do you wanna, you know, just take, like, the Kobe or out play 10, 15 years for one single team and try to win a few championships again.
I got too tough for them.
Um, you know, when you just you look around and you see people just going, you know, to whatever team they please in the off season and teams winning championships out of nowhere.
And, um, dynasties being built out of nowhere.
So, yeah, I don't know it.
It definitely it it changes the It's something I guess can change the landscape of the league.
Really, really quickly.
Just overnight even.
So what do you think? In terms of the Knicks, What do you think? What do you see? You know, in terms off coaching changes, front office changes the team as it is right now.
Impressed, Not impressed.
Yeah, I've been I'm a fact.
I'm a diehard Nick fan, Right? And I've been so disgusted with my team e don't know, eight years, Okay? It's been horrible.
It that z eso, but by the way, I have a delay from my end.
So, like I see you guys moving.
I see your mouth moving, but I don't hear the the audio.
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Okay, so if I don't respond, it's because I'm not I'm not hearing you guys okay.
S o E does enjoy all the teams Thio, boy heartbreak that the Knicks have put me through this'd year plan on following because they make Oh, no, no, you go. I'm sorry.
I think every going like this and I see that gave him wanted to say something.
I gotta delay from my and so I'm sorry, that gave I was just gonna say I mean, I feel like saying something.
Game the next, the next Do you have, like, draft picks going for them that they've just been ableto like ac***ulate a lot of, like, up and coming stars out of college over the last few years? Like guys like Dennis Smith.
I mean, I mean, they didn't draft him, but R.
J Barrett, like, you know, e mean millikin is not bad, obviously, like, overseas pick, but, uh, I mean, they just I don't know what it is with them, you know? And you look at their roster, and it's like they should be able to produce something out of this.
But, um, yeah, I don't know.
As an outside observer, it just seems like a year after year.
You just He just watched, like, you know, confusion.
It is's confusing.
So I personally and personally don't see anybody beating the Lakers anytime soon after the Greek freak ended up being there for the next season.
Lakers Got it way.
Might as well just give it up.
Basketball is over.
That is the team.
No one's gonna beat that tape.
There's just nobody is gonna be this freaking t Uh, just I can't see how anybody is gonna be beat LeBron 80.
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Well, what Greek freak? Yeah, that's his brother.
I agree between 21.
Well, we're talking about right now, right now.
Hey, hey! Not supposed to Nothing until they sign the contract.
There's no final deal.
He's with Milwaukee.
Guys, don't get it, Get it.
Twisted me walking a about what they are right now.
What what's the what's the What's the roster? Go look it up.
What he what? He check out the roster.
What What's the Lakers roster? He has his younger brother on the team.
His younger brother.
It sounded a little compose.
Brother is with the Lakers.
He didn't even play last year.
He wasn't living in a bubble.
Twitter is his brother.
It's his brother.
Not Don't worry about Yeah, but his brother like, Oh, hey, he's not going there.
It would have been over.
Yeah, yeah, but no, he's not there.
He's got a good thing in the box.
He's still in the box.
I'm like, No, he had a good thing with what's going over there.
You move on it, You can breathe.
You can breathe.
Okay, so that's not the case.
I still like them.
But Luckett? Yes, e like the Denver Nuggets joke e like that.
Keep their fundamental basketball.
Yeah, no, But watching the Nuggets in the playoffs.
So it made it made no sense to me like how Yokich is ableto like score points or anything in the paint like I mean, his phenomena Bility First off is one thing like he can actually, I mean, he's the lights out three point shooter like, you know, you'll be watching some games and any sinks like five in the first quarter.
But, um, inside the like it down low.
It's scoring down low.
It does not make sense to me at all because you see him with the ball, and he just has, like, some of the most awkward looking footwork I've ever seen.
And I guess it just, like, kind of makes sense for someone with his size.
But he just kind of like, you know, stumbles around, like, underneath the basket and then throws the ball up and it, like, goes in.
But yeah, the Nuggets, the Nuggets make it work.
I do like the Nuggets.
111 pickup, actually by Lakers this off season.
That I think is really good.
Uh, Dennis, Traitor or Schroeder from the Atlanta Hawks.
Well, he was okay.
See, he was in O k c o.
He was Yeah, he got traded to Okay.
Hey was with Chris Paul Yeah.
And he over the last couple of years has been developing into, like, a really, really special player.
And I think, like the Lakers, you know, LeBron will figure something out.
They'll figure out a good role for him, and, um, yeah, I think e He was a big fan of Rhonda.
He got in his game after Rondo, but he has a more consistent perimeter shot.
They got Marcus sold to Yeah.
Uh, the other guys and not so great they still got Yeah, Yeah.
Uh, they should repeat. They should repeal.
They got Alex Caruso.
You know, barring any injuries because you know, anybody looks good on paper until you get on the floor and you can stay on the floor.
Look at the Clippers, the Clippers.
Everybody would say their their team to be, but then they had chemistry issues.
Before they had those breakdowns in the finals, they were the team to be, But the injuries going up to them.
So, yes, the Lakers looked like the team to be, but we have to let it play out because injuries can change anything and ****ing time could also catch up with LeBron.
That's what I was about to say.
I was about to say, you know, 36 18, I think 36.
So going into the 18th year, Yeah, like James Howard shouting out the Karoo show.
Yeah, going into his 18th year, I mean, that is crazy like that, that I don't understand how he's still able, Thio, I guess just, like take over games the way he waas this year in the playoffs.
But we'll see, you know, it could It could finally be the year where his age starts to show a little bit.
Um, but I don't know right now.
I mean, e don't see it right now, but of course they haven't played a game.
But I just think I like the Lakers because, you know, just going off of last year, I think that it was kind of, I mean, maybe a long shot for them to actually win the finals.
Like people thought they were definitely gonna cruise through the West.
But like, I don't know, I don't know if at the beginning of the year, if you think with just LeBron and a d, um, that they could have automatically been that much of a lock for the finals like, but, you know, just building off of that with all the pieces they've added this off season.
I think that they are probably, uh, in my eyes, in my eyes, I think a favorite starts toe, I think I think the shortest season.
Okay, What did the shortest season help? Blah? Yeah.
You know, when the shortest seeded helped LeBron so that he was able to stay okay or for the playoffs.
Um, but I was surprised by Miami.
So I want to see what happens to Miami.
That xprize there.
Really? I e didn't expect him to do that.
Yeah, and And they're just, like, they're just a team that plays really, really well together and, like, you know, their their defense is is pretty locked down.
And, uh, yeah, I think the I think they definitely surprised a lot of people.
Um, and at the same time, you know, you got to keep in mind like you said the short season.
It helped a lot of teams that had heard a lot of teams like the bugger you gotta think, Yeah, the bubble.
You gotta think the sons, you know, given the one that they went out in the bubbles.
No, making it into the playoffs.
You know, what would they have been able to do with the full length season? So, um, you know, we'll have to see.
Yeah, hero hero is really good.
And Jimmy, Jimmy is a great leader.
Jimmy is a guy that's like he you know, he's not even He's kind of like the opposite of Russ.
You know, where he's just, like, doesn't care about his stats whatsoever.
Like he's gonna pass.
He's gonna rebound Andi if he doesn't.
If he doesn't get to shoot the ball, you know, more than five times in the first half, he doesn't really care as long as his teams up.
So, Henry, uh, talk to me.
You know, we got to give him a moment here.
You know his guts out about the knicks.
So go ahead and do your thing.
I believe o e 01 thing about that we can all agree upon with the Knicks is that they can only get better.
They can only get better.
And the way that the idea off bringing in a defensive minded coach that is going to give them an identity.
It's already a plus.
Then they drafting pretty well.
Okay, that is not one of these.
Like they picked Frank Nil.
Akina head off Mitchell.
What's the day? Mitchell? Donovan Mitchell? I saw.
I saw the tape of that today somewhere, and I saw Donovan Mitchell congratulating, frightening the key.
The where he got called up.
I was like, Holy cow, Donovan Mitchell was right there for us big.
But either way, this year with it wouldn't do too bad.
I don't think that there was too many mistakes with the draft.
And who knows if this guy will be similar to what Mitchell Robinson did for us, which was a find.
It was a second rounder.
Never played college, you know, state.
Uh um he didn't even go to Europe.
He just worked out on his own, came into the Knicks, and he was a game changer.
You know, for excitement, man.
I mean, and and with a nice point guard, like quickly in their listen, I'm looking forward to them playing all of these young guys and giving those young guys the opportunities to either sink or swim.
I think with this kid coming out of Kentucky, they might help.
Knocks a little bit mhm, if not knocks.
Gotta get moved out, man.
And let all these other guys play because we've given him two years to show what he's got.
So between him, maquina you know, I'm you know, let me see some office, that coach make those guys play defense, and I think that I got a good squad, man.
I got a nice squad coming in.
Then I got Toby or we want Calo b r J Barrett Emmanuel quickly.
I saw some tapes of Julius Randle doing some stuff, even though he disappointed me last year.
Okay, I'm looking for Austin Rivers to do a little work.
Andi, I got big bigness, man.
I love the way that kid worked out in the G League last year, and I'm hoping that he gets the opportunity, man, because he's a He's like one of this.
Uh What was it? The league you remember leave when we had him a couple of years ago.
Just a working man.
It's just a hard work.
It gets in there and does all the dirty work, you know, Whereas Randall just wants to take a shot and run the other way.
Yeah, so I mean, I think I agree.
You know, with your point about just getting the young guys out there and just, you know, seeing what they could do.
And I think, like you've seen a lot of teams try that out, like I have, you know, measurable success with that.
Like, I think you know, one example, I guess would be I think the Kings come to mind Sacramento that Yes.
I love what they do, you know, like just trusting and deer and fox and trusting And the guys that they have.
Um, the sun Another one did it. Yeah.
The sun's or another one, you know, bringing in eyes, like, obviously, if Devin Booker started the show.
But then you bring in guys like Kelly himself.
You try to build around these young guys, and you don't you don't go after, um, guys that you're not, you know, going to get that much production out of, I guess.
Um, so I I agree.
I think that, you know, honestly, that they have.
You know, it's like you said they could only go up from here.
So, uh, the the upside of that is, you know, it's obviously very high, but at the same time does take, like, a couple of seasons to develop.
You know that confidence and have the team gel together.
Um, but, you know, it's also I was gonna say, be funny.
You know, it's gonna It's gonna be funny to see Austin Rivers kind of stepping in.
It looks like he's close toe one like the oldest guys on this roster.
Like he's gonna be stepping in tow like the veteran role veteran leader role on the Knicks roster with all these young guys.
So, yeah, it'll be.
It'll be really interesting.
What was that? Is he gonna be like Tatum from the Celtics? You think it's gonna be like, No, no, no, no.
It would have been that already.
Know topping is gonna be like Tatum Tatum.
Time is a bucket.
Tatum is a bucket.
Tatum Tatum is one of those guys that he's gonna be around for, you know, 10.
15 years and you can see you can see him becoming like, you know, a legend in the NBA.
Honestly, Tatum is a Tatum is a special player.
Yeah, and And he, you know, all Kobe passed away he worked out with with Kobe s, so he picked up a lot of stuff from Kobe, and he's taken him into his game.
And now he's become, you know, a second version of Kobe in terms of the work that he's put into his game e saying that he's Kobe.
But the work that Kobe put into his game, that's what freedom is trying todo Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gonna be Who's the leader? So Henry, who is the leader in the mix? Who is the leader? Community? Uhh! The coach.
The coach is the leader on the Knicks.
Uh, there is no big guys a little use.
Okay, Uh, what they really need is for for dinner.
Smith Jr Thio developed or, you know, you know, like they say she don't get on or get off the pot, you know, because if not quickly, should be put right into that situation.
You don't want my starting five is I got quickly.
Topping Randall and ignorant breast desk ease.
That's my starting 50 Did I live on Mitchell Robinson? I'm sorry, fellas. I'm sorry.
It's stopping Randall Robinson.
RJ and Emmanuel quickly e.
I agreed with it.
Four out of five off your starting five.
Who you have to.
He has to come off the bench.
Peyton used the guy that that knows how to run a bench.
The rookie nature.
He's gotta earn his minute, and he's gonna learn the league.
And he's great coming off off off the bench because he's still got to learn the game.
I'm not saying that he's not a good player, but again, there's a transition.
And you're not just gonna come into the league and be ableto just Yeah, but did you say that? Did you say that about about this kid from from Atlanta last year? Oh, we got a West.
He's gotta be, you know, all the time.
He just blew up a He's not just, you know, it takes a little guy, So it's a little thing, you know? No, I think it takes It takes a really special player to be able to come into the league straight out of college exactly, and and even be able to keep up.
Honestly, you could be able to keep up with the game.
You know, it's OK.
I'm glad that we have in this conversation because I hope that he changes a lot of minds.
You know, on this platform.
I'm hoping for him and that, you know, he proves Toby, because, remember, he's, uh he's played a couple of years on the on the Calipari.
So, you know, it's not like he's Ah, one and done.
Yeah, it that came out of college.
He's coming out with some experience, even though he's a little bit of a, you know, a little under wait.
You know, he doesn't have ah, MBA body.
But again, neither did the kid from Atlanta, right? With trade.
Young was, you know, he was He was the guy.
He was the guy on this team.
He came in having that kind of responsibility.
Yeah, he had that kind of responsibility. Off course.
We question what kind of MBA body he had to be able to compete at the MBA and obviously his work.
For him, that's the exception.
That's not the rule this quickly.
He's solid player, but I don't think he can feel those shoes coming into the N B A.
If anything, I will start painting because Peyton already knows the team.
You know, you grew up and then you bring in a quickly behind him.
E absolutely, you know, being groomed potentially as a future point guard.
But I wouldn't I wouldn't start him.
Not ready to run a team, right? Not at this level.
Not all bad, so but they also have Austin Rivers as a point guard.
Yeah, that's another fact.
I think that someone that you wanna have kind of like a mentor for these young guys just because of, like, his playoff experience.
And he's just, you know, he's been around forever.
Yeah, he's just he's just a great guy to have around, I think, Especially when you have all these young guys on the team.
You know, some kind of Cem leadership and you're probably not going to get that like Michael Good Michael Michael cleared or whatever Yeah or Nerlens Noel, but, um yeah, you know, you know, they gotta want Omari Spellman to Those guys are pretty good.
I mean, their players, they got skilled.
Let's kill players Villanova.
Villanova is one of those programs that, you know, they produce guys that that essentially game ready again.
Another four year guy, Omari Spellman.
Yes, it ISS Yeah, that's a good thing, because you bring it in guys that a little bit more, you know, experienced more mature as opposed to a one and done.
You know, you don't know what you're gonna get.
High risk, high reward.
But with these four year players, at least you get good, good, solid.
You know, glue, guys that can help stabilize the locker room and potentially be a solid play in the n B.
If not, you know.
Ah, Potential star.
Yeah, I agree. Yes.
Listen, man, he said the coach says everybody's gonna have to earn their minutes.
Should be so So I'm looking forward to that I 10 man rotation.
Listen, I go 15, man.
Oh, everybody, listen, that's the way I mean, you know, I know I'm going to an extreme, but the reality is this If you have such a young squad, you wanna put the premium on defense.
You make sure that folks get minutes.
Not everybody's gonna get the same amount of minutes, But at least you're getting in and getting them gaming experience and also you create good habits.
Wait good habits.
Otherwise, right now, we can't expect them to be a playoff team.
You know, they gotta be a team in transition and development.
They gotta show levels of improvement throughout the season.
Yeah, there's a the seven.
What is it? 87889 and 10, 78 19.
E was thinking that this year, the playoff, the format is that the last 789 and 10 are going to be playing in for the eighth spot.
Yeah, or the 89 from the 10th.
You know, in the standings will be for the H five like a plane round robin game.
Yeah, that's what they did in the bubble.
They did that in the bubble.
That's how Portland got in right on in Phoenix.
Although they want every game, they just came up short.
That's that's That's terrible, right? You win all your games and, you know, making that's pretty bad.
But somebody had a better record than that.
That's that's what happened.
Okay? The pre bubble.
So? So, So So winning all those games meant nothing to them.
You haven't played this game for that? No.
Well, yeah, but they got experience out of it.
That's a young team.
That Phoenix team is gonna be a team to watch now, because now they have three.
They got Chris Ballinger.
Hey, knows how to set people up.
And then they got that shooting garment.
That kid is he's the truth.
Yeah, he really is.
And you're gonna see it.
Is it here? A lot of Kentucky guy e think e Think you're ready? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm following.
What was that? Nina? You have a bad delay.
You need to connect Ethernet cable. Thio.
There's a lot of delay from Miami.
Yeah, Yeah, next time I will.
Yeah, because using your WiFi and it's not reliable, But Henry e can't see any past or anything, because it slows me down further.
I gotta I can't see any stats or teams right now, because otherwise my internet just slows down.
Even further e a question for Henry s.
So you're saying you have 10 minutes? Uh, yeah. Yeah.
10 man rotation of the Knicks is what you're saying. Yeah.
So, like, so you don't see them, you know, making the playoffs.
They could come in.
They could be the ninth or the 10th team in the East.
Yeah, *** do that.
But I think what? What? They were ninth last year. No.
Remember where? I can't remember where they finished trying to say Okay, I know.
Yeah, I wanna I wanna answer James in the shot.
I don't think the calves will make a run a Detroit All Detroit cats or Detroit.
I'm not gonna make it.
Is this cat spirit man? Is he really saying he just throwing stuff out? This be a e? Come on.
But I agree with his opinion about magic.
I agree with his opinion about E I agree about the green marble commentary, but the Cavs Come on, man.
Who is this K? Are you for real? He's just say stuff, man.
Can't take him serious.
Let me see who's gonna be, who's gonna be.
But going back to what you were saying earlier, though about next having a 10 or even jokingly, a 15 team, a 15 meditation.
Um, but I fully agree, You know, I think that's what they have to do right now.
And especially in a season like this, where you know, it's not like you're trying Thio.
You know, it's not like you're trying to make the playoffs.
You're not trying to make a run right now or anything like that.
You're just trying to see what you could do, You know, when as many games as you can.
Just trying to figure out what you wanna do for for your roster moving forward.
But as long as you know right now, when you don't even have set five man rotation.
Yeah, I think absolutely.
You got to be getting You have to be, uh, trying out as many guys as you can, and you have to be having a really deep bench.
And if anything else, you know, it'll just, I guess keep the guys on the bench which competitive and keep everyone engaged.
And, um yeah, you know, I just created good morrell.
I think that it was a good, coach.
I think out of a bunch of young guys like that, like he should be able to get something out, you know, you know, and the thing about it is when you play that many players and again, 15 is the extreme.
But if you play, if you expand your roster, that means you could be that much more aggressive defensively for because you can't worry about trouble using players, and you're, you know, is still in good habits.
Be a great you're not worried about foul trouble, and you're also you're not You're not overworking guys, so it's not, you know, you say you tell everybody listening.
You're going to get five minutes every quarter.
That's it s so you will bust your behind when you get out there on defense. Yeah.
And left the office come off for the defense.
And if and if you don't play hard, Okay.
We got next, man.
Uh, next man up is gonna come in, and they're gonna play for those minutes.
They're gonna want those minutes exactly.
Also a locker room and wow.
Then you were gonna so I mean, I'm all about defense.
I could appreciate somebody's got to score.
So some There's our rhythm shooters.
So how you gonna house on these players about rhythm? Shooter's gonna get the timing is only gonna be on the court for five minutes and then sound advantage.
Well, again, you know, we're We're we're being facetious that they were gonna get five minutes, but you're gonna have your rotation, and then you build around your rotation, you get guys, you may not play every every, You know, every guy in every single game, But you could You can alternate from game to game.
You have your starting five, and then you work from there, the rest of your roster different.
That's That's the way you looked at.
I don't think they even established starting five or anything like that.
We're playing tomorrow night, folks at 7 p.m. Way.
Where is the starting five? Who is it? Let me see.
Let me see. Way.
The only disagreement is quickly, um, you know, because you told quickly I I chose Peyton eso they got.
Look at that. They do have them already.
R J Barrett Obi Topping, Julius Randle Randle Mitchell Robinson on uh, and Alfred Peyton there was your starting five is official.
Well, this is what I got here.
Looking at the New York Knicks death shot.
So the starters are Elfrid Payton, R J.
Barrett a week topping Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson.
Mama, I really liked that guy.
I really liked that guy.
Topping He's gonna be awesome is gonna be awesome.
And then in the second, the second they're talking about the Latina birds Reggie Bullock? Yeah, E no is good coming off the bench and he's a defensive guy.
So he's gonna be good to push Mitchell Robinson and coming off the bench.
He's a veteran. Awesome.
Is he a day to day? Yeah, well, OK, Kevin Knox, it's on.
The third is the third rotation.
He's not even he's not even coming off the bench in the first rotation.
You know your friend James.
How? Yeah, he asked the question about Melo.
Actually, Grant James brother question.
I was gonna bring up about Lemelle a ball.
What do you guys think about Lemelle a ball? No.
What do you think? You know, that's That's another interesting case.
Like Justin turn in terms of the Charlotte Hornets, where they kind of have a mix of like, younger guys Devante Grandma loved at Kansas a week monk.
And then they got like, Terry Gordon Hayward, um, and then bringing in Lamela's.
So, um, Miles Bridges.
Obviously, uh, I honestly don't know.
I think out of the three ball brothers, I honestly think I see Lemelle Oh, having the most upside, Really? E.
I mean, you know, just because I and I guess I haven't seen him play that much, but just, uh, you know, building that kind of experience in the pro leagues, like in New Zealand or wherever he was going to play.
Yeah, you know, skipping college to go to that.
Like, you know, we've seen plenty of guys come out off the national leagues and, you know, it's proven to be it's proven to be a good developmental, you know, strategy for young players.
Um, that don't want to go the college route.
So I don't know.
I think Lemelle is gonna be really interesting.
And if you know, if the Hornets decided to play him, you know, obviously they have a few older guys on that team, but if they if they do decide to give us a minutes.
Uh, I think I'd be really excited to see what it does.
Yeah, the mellow.
He's very talented.
I mean, he has the potential to be a star player in this league.
I do like Lonzo Lonzo Ball.
He's Ali, He's solid and he has the potential.
What I see in Lonzo is he has the potential toe have a career similar to Jason Kidd.
He likes Thio distribute the ball, and he's further along in his jump shot than Kid Waas.
When kids came into the league, Kid was not a perimeter shooter.
He was get the ball and dribble it the length of the court and then either shooting or pass it off a lot of go.
On the other hand, he grabs the rebound and he's looking down court.
He doesn't dribble in 94 ft.
You know he's passing it.
You just have to stay that even on the half court said he gets and he keeps it moving and he's worked on his jump shot.
So he broke his property fast.
His defense is solid, defense is solid and his rebounding inside.
That's why I say I seen him like adjacent kid, you know, two point.
Oh, yeah, I know Lemelle.
Oh, he has, you know, superstar potential, you know, being able.
Yeah, it's a matter of fulfilling it.
But he has that potential.
We'll see. Yeah.
Hey, has the potential.
Yeah, he has great vision.
And it's also I think, that he has good players around him.
I think India is good players around him that be able to help out.
Just kind of help him get his footing.
Like Terry is one guy.
Um, who specifically on that team? Um Who? Yeah, yeah, Hayward and Hayward.
You know, but Terry Thio Gramps, mind just because Carrie carrie was, like, you know, kind of built his own, you know, I feel like he almost came out of nowhere.
He made the best of his opportunity.
Uh, you know, with the minutes he was getting with the Celtics and built on that and he was able to turn himself into, like, you know, pretty pretty, highly sought after player in the NBA.
But he took a step back when he went well.
He was with the Celtic.
He was like the guy When, when, uh, I went down.
And then he went and toe the Hornets, and it's like he wasn't the same player.
You know, you know it z hard to explain what it is.
If it's just I guess, you know, maybe he misses playing in Boston or whatever, but for some reason yeah, he's just coming up short.
You should You should have stayed in Boston E eventually.
That he would have been the mad again.
And that, you know, that is still one thing that we have to see pan out is how the nets do when they have all the pieces ready to go when Katie Hiree come back. Like there.
If they're not serious title contenders, I don't know.
It's gonna It's gonna be interesting.
Yeah, that's one of those team that on paper they look awesome.
However, the chemistry that they had was without K d and Kyrie.
Now they have to all take a step back, give the ball to Kyrie and K d.
And then on the 3rd and 4th options.
And and we've had this conversation and I know James from the chat rooms is bringing this up But this is a conversation that I've had with Henry before in terms of Kyrie.
Unfortunately, Kyrie is super talented.
I mean this kid talent alone.
There's no dispute.
The problem with Kyrie is his leadership skills.
And on top of that, you know, it's about him having the ball 24 7 as a post as a point guard, you want to distribute, you wanna make sure your teammates are happy and like they're gonna be more than willing to give you the rock so that you could shoot it and close the game.
But here's mentality is he's got to score every single point every single quarter, and that's not gonna translate into winning basketball.
It translates into great stats, you know, on a personal level and being a good play basketball, you know, And that's that's the unfortunate part because the kid is super talented.
I mean, he's a bad kid.
Yeah, but you know, he doesn't help chemistry because you make that Kyrie doesn't help, right? We're gonna put him on your team.
No, E said we're gonna give them to you.
Gonna put him on your team, Kyrie? Oh, you could keep my read.
You could keep Westbrook Don't want either.
Uh, they were to e you know, it's exactly like you were saying with Kyrie.
Is that the talent is no doubt there.
You know, we saw that in Cleveland, obviously.
But it's just a question of is he, you know, fully committed Thio giving the ball up for the sake of the team.
And you know when when he doesn't have the shot, is he gonna pass it all for he's gonna try to make the play, and it's, you know, he and what have the same similar mentality.
Just like yeah, you know, Exactly. Exactly.
Kind of, like, expected work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But But he doesn't have that mentality.
Want to school first.
He wants to make players.
Yeah, he wants Hey, wants to score first.
And the thing about God, that's what he is in the pudding point guard.
That's to fifth off the offense.
Yeah, you can't do as a point guard.
You can't be 2/5 of the office on, and then the other thing is to in terms of chemistry and and how you come along and bring along place last year or last season.
You know, he made a comment that doesn't sit well with I'm sure his teammates when he says, Oh, you know, we definitely need a, you know, a roster upgrade.
Uh, yeah, you could think that you could think that.
But you don't make that a public say that you don't say that because that puts your teammates in a bad position.
First of all, they're gonna look at you sideways interval.
Now they gotta answer to the media.
If the media questions them about, it's just bad.
It's just bad for chemistry.
And then the second thing that he said this this season, I mean before this is gonna be positive.
Okay, But let me let me just add just one more point or Dominic join the broadcast so hopefully he'll log in and he'll be one of our co host.
Um, Just listening, Dominic.
You'll find out.
So anyway, So the other thing that I found very disturbing about Kyrie is that he said, you know that they don't need a coach that they're going to coach by committee or collaborate.
Don't undermine the coach Yeah, you could make that statement behind us is don't make it public, because that doesn't it Doesn't You know, it doesn't go over Well, you know, willing to listen to a coach, right already undermining the coach.
Yeah, well, you know, off course.
Good thing I would say that he's got going for himself is that him and Katie have been friends for a very long time.
So hopefully that relationship, he will give it some respect he will be able to say, Okay, Katie is the man in this team.
I'm gonna The rock goes through him, you know? Maybe he will say, Okay, I know my role.
And I'm the number two.
Oh, e mean, maybe you think you think with e think that e I don't know what In Cleveland, I'll chat.
Do you agree? Really A problem with him in Cleveland? I just think that he has a relationship, that he had been like best friends.
So maybe he would defer to KB now that he's learned he's more mature so that he could actually win, you know, you know, because they'll be it.
It's just It's Katie.
I mean, it's not like you're playing against somebody who's just coming up on the league.
This is, like, you know, one of the best players in the league.
Yeah, I agree with my I agree with the point in the chat about Katie not really having experience as like a leader of a team.
Um, you know, with the with the thunder.
He was still obviously super young.
Just getting a start, you know, on Then when he went to the Warriors had, you know, Brooke, who wanted to be number one, right? And then when? But when he went to the Warriors, you know, he had to play with the team that it was really with nothing.
They had already.
They had already developed everything they had already built their chemistry and everything, and Katie was just adding to what they already have A Yeah, yeah, but But at the same time, it's not like, you know, he didn't have to.
Really? He didn't.
He didn't have any, I guess, um, problems to solve on that team.
He came into a team that was already all there, pieces put together.
Essentially, they just fallen short in the playoffs.
Sure, but you could tell that they were right on the cost of winning a championship.
They had already won one, but now they have already won.
They had anyone there was just making something that was better.
Even better. Exactly.
Eso Katie he came into that situation is just like, you know, let me coast off this to a regular.
Honestly, I'm comfortable saying that, but he also felt he that he was one of the go to guys, and that was his problem with Green.
Yeah, And he he was one of the go to guys, you know, he has to be.
You know, you have Katie on your on your team, you're gonna give him the ball, Especially late in the game scenario like that.
Um, but yeah, you know, it's it's tough when you're coming into a situation where they've already developed a chemistry.
Like I said, they've already They already have their guys, you know, like, um or giving what? Say Yeah, Well, listen, I'm telling you, it z gonna be interesting to see the dynamics in in Brooklyn, they play together or don't play together.
I mean, they definitely have the potential.
Like you said Henry Paper They look great on people. They look great.
However, however, paper and on the court or two different things, you know what I'm saying.
And until we see this play itself out, hopefully you know Kyrie has matured.
E don't see it based on his comments because his comments are very current.
Um, we'll see. We'll see.
Imagine if Harden would have ended up.
There s where? Yeah, so that would have been paid.
But it so isn't so.
So isn't Nash the coach for the next? Yes.
Who's the coach for the Nets? You said it e He respects that.
Yeah, but he undermined it by saying, you know, we're gonna coach my committee.
Is not you? Yeah, but according Thio Dominic, right? He's saying that he made that comment before Nash was hired.
I don't remember the timeline.
You're undermining the coach, right? Because they were gonna hire a coach regardless.
It's not like we're gonna We're gonna We're gonna have a player coach, like, you know, Kyrenia is gonna be the player coach, join our players.
Excuse me a minute.
Listen, that's gonna he wants to be a little broad.
Veins of the net.
He had his opportunity to prove himself to be as great or greater than LeBron When LeBron left Cleveland for Miami, and then it was Tyree's team and they dunk.
They were trash.
Yeah, And then when he went to Boston, he was going to an upstart team, and it hurt the chemistry.
They didn't win better.
They played better without him.
So, you know, super talented.
But without this guy, he's got a lot of growing up to do.
Yeah, definitely has a lot of growing up to Dio and it, Zain Questionable where it's like how, you know, at this point, like, how long has it been, like, 2014? I feel like 2015.
He came in the league around then, um, so, yeah, it's like, you know, you gotta You gotta kind of assurance of that role if you wanna.
If you actually want to be a leader on the team, you know, if you actually wanna have control of a team the way he wants to, um, yeah, he's gonna have toe.
He's gonna have toe make that, you know, maturity.
You know, the thing is, you know, this is what happens with a lot of point guards that air young in the league when they don't have a mentor meaning another veteran who they respect on the bench that plays the same position is now and can show them the way off how you win.
Yes, you could push. That's all you want.
And, you know, team chemistry is another level off leadership that's required within a point card.
He's never had that veteran behind him whispering in his ear.
Listen, Kyrie, do this.
Set this guy up.
You're gonna see that he's gonna pay off in the fourth quarter for you.
Hey, So maybe maybe Steve Nash is the guy.
Now he's a coach.
You need a guy that that, you know, a contemporary that can play on the floor.
Okay, I'll give an example.
So if I don't know if you follow Chauncey Billups, Okay.
So Chauncey Billups is one of these guys.
If if he was in his, you know, at the tail end of his career right now, and he was still in the league That's a guy that I would have on the bench behind Kyrie on and whispering.
And Kyron's here.
Listen, this is how you set your teammates up.
This is how you set yourself up for later in the game.
And if he doesn't listen, you bring him off the bench.
You bring in a chance of building for off the bench to show Kyrie entirely sitting on the bench to show Carrie, this is how you set up your teammates.
He's never had that.
Ironically enough, Rondo would be a great guy.
The Nets missed out on him.
Yeah, they should have brought him in.
He needs somebody like that.
That's gonna help trade young tremendously.
You got mixed in the house.
What's up? What's up? What's up? Wait, hold on, hold on. Yeah.
Yeah, I was talking about you're talking about the LeBron What you're talking about.
We were talking about Kyrie.
We didn't talk about the LeBron Kyrie thing.
We're just talking about Kyrie.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think you need some light up in their Dominican dark man. It's dark.
You see your shadow.
I'm gonna go you Chad! Oh, Yeah, yeah, I could keep talking about, but we want to hear what you gotta say. Good.
Well, I didn't know what I don't know.
What exactly you guys were saying that Yeah, look much better now.
We were saying that Kyron's super talented.
Okay, super talented.
Unfortunately, he's not a good leader.
He's a tremendous point card.
He's not a pure point card.
He's a scoring point card.
And as the result of that, it doesn't help his team win whenever he's had that kind of position.
He had the opportunity in Cleveland after LeBron left to Miami when he went to Boston.
He was supposed to be that missing piece in Boston to take him to the next level, and it just hurt the chemistry.
And now he went to Brooklyn.
The first thing that he says during the last season was they need to upgrade the roster in public to the media, which undermines your teammates.
So that didn't help the team on.
And then before Nash, you know, even coaches his first game, he said, Look, way don't need a coach.
We can coach by committee on.
Well, here's up with.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing I don't think you need to be like.
I don't think you need to be a great leader to be a great player.
I think that he is the third or second best point guard in the league, and I think that if that Nets team is healthy, um, there will be the best team in the East.
I also think that Kyrie looks at life very different from everybody in the world.
Yeah, so it's kind of one of those things where, like like and I said this in the stream and I was like, uh, he said that before Nash kind of got hired like I think it b'more appalling to me and he said, Oh, we don't need a coach and Nationals already hired and is the national like So like, Nash knew what he was going into, You know, I think and I think Kyrie will like, I think, national help Kyrie a lot and as being, um or true point guard than he is now, because that's what you're gonna have to be with K D.
Unless because unless they run sets in different liners with Katie out and then we're gonna have to score.
But with Kite with Katie and I are on the same floor together, he's gonna have to be that you point guard and I think he will because Steve National help him, uh, march out of Myers on that coaching staff.
Dirk might be on that coaching staff Mike D'Antoni on that coaching staff.
So I think I think Kyrie has show like Kyrie in Boston.
That wasn't good.
Kyrie had no one in Cleveland to really hope with him.
Besides, obviously LeBron eso.
But to be you don't need to be a great leader to be a great en NBA player. E.
I don't think you have to be a great leader toe be a great NBA player, but I think you have to be a great leader if you wanna have, like, success.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing that championships that's true.
I was I was talking about this to earlier is like I don't think I don't think I re gonna get one without LeBron and like, if he is, he's gonna go.
He's gonna have to go through LeBron, and if he does that, then I'll tip the hat off to him.
but right now I just put Correa's probably the top 10.
1 of the greatest point guards of all time and simple is that I'm a duke.
I love Kyrie like Kyrie is my guy.
I just know he just He just looks at life differently and I've accepted it.
And I think if that Nets team is healthy, there's a lot of that.
Za lot of deuces will score 40 on that team live Kyrie Kyrie just kind of seems to me like Like I mean, almost like a Dennis Rodman level of just like wild card like it's like it could be.
It could be the week before the finals and Kyrie decides that he's retiring for basketball.
You know, something like that.
And he's just gonna like, you know, move toe like some random beat somewhere, you know, like how How is that kind of player? Yeah, yeah, but I mean again, he he's hit one of the most clutch shots of all time.
He's got one of the best handles of all time. He's talented.
There's no debate that he's talented.
Yeah, we're not debating that.
He's not talented.
I have more a problem of him talking bad about LeBron.
Just cause you don't have no chip without without LeBron, you don't got no LeBron.
So like you like you don't got that opportunity of getting to the finals.
Is that LeBron so? Like, the only thing that should come out your mouth is LeBron was this and this for me? I accepted it like he's a big brother to me.
I respect him. He's great.
I don't want to hear that.
Here's the first time in my career I could give someone else the ball and they could hit like maybe, you know, maybe it's maturity going up the chat.
Maybe this is, uh, Katie and Kyrie can bond off their mutual disrespect or hatred of LeBron and LeBron.
They they want to team up on, get past them.
Yeah, and that's that.
That's not gonna happen because the Nets don't have anybody to guard Anthony Davis.
So it's Yeah, yeah, that's stuff that stuff.
Right now Kyrie is listed as 23 and 23.
Best player in the off.
The best point guards off all time.
Yeah, no, there's not 23 point guards better than him.
Well, Steve Magic Johnson, Oscar Robinson, Stephan Curry I saying.
Thomas John Stockton, Steve Nash, Bob Cousy, Jason Kidd.
What? Fraser Allen Iverson, Gary Payton, Chris Paul, Nate Archibald, Derek Roles, Tony Parker, Lenny Wilkens.
They've been Chauncey Billups, Dennis Johnson, Russell Westbrook and some dude named Lafayette Lever A afternoon Hardaway.
And they even got you know who they got they got right, John Rando.
Well, e guess so in terms of scoring, anyway, so yeah, well, they got Stephon Marbury also, and Stefan was good, and they even got Tom Wall at 40 to listen.
So listen, Russell West is that I'm taking Kyrie over stuff.
That is Johnson before, before Kyrie.
Uh, Dennis Johnson? Yeah, with on and with the Warriors.
The San Francisco Dennis Johnson was over there, out west before Jack Sigma and those boys.
I don't know about those.
I don't know about that list.
That's before your time.
Yeah, I'll be working for you guys.
Whoever did that Dennis Johnson is not better than Kyrie, Okay? Not when you say that you don't know You didn't know you were born.
You watch who won? Yeah, where you give him 60 s Yeah, Jordan and win Jordan.
And you know Yeah.
Jordan scored 63 against Boston and lost.
So what does that say? 63 Dennis Johnson? Uh, yeah, but Curry Curry Scorn.
I'm what you would call it on your boy Kyrie.
Right? What does that gave him? 40 Gave him 41 Sin mob Not giving no. 30.
Hey way! Agree that Kyrie is talented.
There's no debate, A meaning that it translates into wins.
That's the point.
And you said it best.
There is no championship for Kyrie without LeBron.
It's about winning.
It's about winning.
It's about it was the definition.
What's the definition of winning? So like if they're the first seed and their **** if No, no, no, no.
If they're the first seed and they go and they win, they win the east right And they meet LeBron in the finals and lose.
Is he still a winning point guard? Understand what I'm saying? He's got to do it consistently.
All right? You can't dio he can't do a one off.
He's gotta do it consistently.
The oh, yeah, yeah.
LeBron has been in the Final Four e but Kyrie Kyrie in order for him to prove that he's a winning player, forget about point.
Ah, winning player.
He has toe win consistently.
It doesn't necessarily mean that he has to win championships every single year, but he has to take his team and have a winning.
Hey has helped with K d.
He has a complicated.
We gotta see they gotta do it.
Not just this this season.
Next season, in a few more season.
And then you're talking about a winning player, though.
Is Alice's Allen Iris in a winning player? Yeah, they won games.
They want anybody When the lady who was more of a cancer.
Allen Allen Iverson, Listen, they won game.
They land right now.
Okay, I'm just saying that person on that Yeah, on that On that list.
Alan Robinson, Ally, Ever since the top 10 point guard on that list that he just named off and he has no rings, he has no rings.
Right? So we're putting and Kyrie has one.
And Al and Kyrie, I think a better point.
He probably better point guard than Alan rival Alain Robbe Allen Iverson.
You really look at it he's probably better Point guard Allen Iverson.
So therefore, that list I just don't see a huh? Those players who have rains who are not good players, It's not just about It's not just about ranks.
You could say it looks longer.
He was a central to have a flight.
He's not racist.
Look, Yeah, it is not about direction.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right.
But we're talking about winning.
Winning, winning, winning with Alan Iverson.
That was literally him.
Like he Ah! 6 ft point guard willed E.
I mean, you look at the roster of the 70 Sixers.
They were not that great of a outside of him.
Hey, will them to the finals on his own back.
Like Kyrie? Kyrie in my eyes isn't doing that.
Yeah, the league is a little different now, but okay, it is.
I mean, I don't think and I don't think you could take that team now with like, if you wanna match the talent that that team had.
And this now, this era, I don't think that team would make the playoffs.
So, like, it's different areas, Right? Right.
But listen, Kyrie! Kyrie! Kyrie has never taken any team anywhere.
Hey, actually, he killed the chemistry.
Unfortunately, E I love him. I love him.
He did a lot for my the Celtics, the Celtics.
They ended up playing better without him without Yeah, he might not be a winning player yet, but like, it's okay.
It's okay to be a great too it is okay to do that.
It is okay to be like that.
It's okay to be ah, great to it.
Like like Scott Iwas.
Like Kobe was for shock.
Like it's okay to do that.
Well, does you believe that? I think with K d.
He does because he actually respects k. D.
I think you will see a D that he was respects LeBron.
So I don't know.
I don't think he wants to be set taken to anybody, but he may.
He made choose to do that with K D.
And that's fine.
If he does that, then that's maturity on his level.
And I'll give him that again.
I think he's talented, Man, if you asked me if I wanna point guard in the mode of a Kyrie in terms of talent is skill.
Handle shot, you know, killer instinct.
But if you're asking me because he win, if you're asking me, can he lead a team? You know, Does he have the maturity? The head t know how toe Turn it on When he needs to turn it on and also get his players involved, his team is involved.
I have to question it, but that's just being honest.
All right, I know.
So hire is not a winning player.
Is Yannis a winning player? Yeah, honest Yanis Yanis is a unicorn.
Yanis Yanis is not even like Yeah, Yannis is like Yannis is literally just like you have toe.
You have to just let him do whatever he's going to do with that team because he is so special that you can't even categorize him as any other kind of player.
Honestly, like I think Yanis is just like a different.
But John this is not a point guard that confused The honest with Caritas carries job is to distribute the ball.
That's a that's a job that you do your job or you change decisions That, honest, honest is not the point guard. That's not his job.
My honest, my honest, brought up.
Bringing him up was a different conversation.
So But with Kyrie, though, Um, I think that if you were to start a team right now, you don't start a team with Kyrie.
Kyrie is part of the team.
You start whoever you want to start your team with.
You understand what I'm saying, like and I think that z fine.
Like I don't think that he's one of those.
I don't think he's one of those.
He's just not that person that you could lead a lead a team with, and that's fine.
Like he might not be like a leader, but I think he's a winning player, though I think he, like, will do what it takes to win.
Like like he wasn't leading Boston player like he wasn't leading Boston was because, like leadership had a role.
But he also wasn't playing good basketball.
Understand what I'm saying? So like he still was still trying, he was still trying toe win.
He just played really bad.
So e think again.
He's not a leader, but I think he's a winning.
So questions have thio you see? Oh, if you guys have thio like, put a team together, who is, like, from give me a starting five.
And can you? Starting five and one bench players.
If you're six, you have to do era.
You have to do error or right now, starting starting a team.
Who's playing right now? Miguel, you are 100.
I got How about this time? You first You go.
Point guard point.
We'll do a little draft point guard like that.
I like that. We'll do a little We'll do a little draft.
Yeah, So point guard Oh, Stefan Curry.
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Now, now, like No, no, no e playing right now.
There's gotta be this current era they're playing right now.
I go with Rondo.
Yeah, the plane.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes Rondo Story Playoff Rondo! Ugo, come on, You go.
Eso Here's what You gotta pick your five.
Okay? You gotta pick your five.
And once you pick those whose whoever you pick is off the roster, okay? Because you got rocked.
Okay, I got so I'm gonna go with Murray.
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Who Pathetically Alright.
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Um, so I get back to back picks and then we'll go. We'll go.
OK, um I will pick.
Um Damian Lillard.
Yeah, well, you took my guy.
I'll take Damian Lillard and I will take Devin Booker at my two.
That's your shooter? That's my That's my That's my everything.
You sure that's just that's just shooting guard.
But that's my dog.
I'm giving him the boot left.
You left out your mankind radio.
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The second best point guard in the league.
I would have picked him.
Gave him a game.
Dame falls into the category to me of Allen Iverson of like winning.
You could be a winning player without getting a with He's a I with leadership.
Yeah, You know what? So who just really I can't hear Gabriel shooting guard.
I feel I wanna go. I wanna go.
We got money, guy.
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All right, We'll get back to you, Henry. You go.
E got Thompson, man e got the Warriors.
The Warriors guard.
I got Thompson, Curry and Thompson.
He's out for the season.
Yeah, but he's a player.
I mean, if he was good, you know, if he wasn't it, you know, I'm thinking guys that are playing now, technically, he's not hurt.
Technically, he's not.
He's gonna be out the entire season, But, hey, you want to pick another guy, right? You know, whatever you want, man, as a shooting guard.
Um, Manu to Damian.
Who's out there? That's a really good shooting.
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I believe him out there.
Nobody picked him.
Nobody picked him.
There are a couple of guys we're missing.
All right? I'm gonna go with Donovan Mitchell.
A pink like that? Yes, sir.
Curry and Donovan Mitchell do.
Oh, yeah, I'll be pretty hard.
Can you guys hear me? Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you, Ma.
So, Henry, you're at seven years a small forward figure.
A small forward now.
Yeah, but you didn't.
You didn't think you're shooting guard? Yeah.
You got you got Murray.
Um oh, small forward.
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Oh, you're gonna get it done.
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So who goes now? Uh, I'm gonna do Littler and Booker.
I'm gonna dio uh I'm gonna dio I'm gonna dio e Well, first of all, I'm gonna do Jayson Tatum.
Oh, the oh, okay, that's it.
You don't get another pick.
I get back to that picks. No, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't do that twice.
That doesn't work like that.
you get that already? Ugo? He gave me a patio.
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Okay, I'm gonna go with Okay.
Right now, let me tell you who's gonna be there.
Uh, LaMarcus Aldridge.
So are we Flip? Are we flipping the centers? You turn? Are we flipping like since we're flipping? Pick what you want.
You could have a small team.
You have a tour. Team is up to you.
Give me Zion, man.
Give me is a young man.
Yeah, that's a nice one.
That's a nice one, man.
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I'm taking the process.
A process very fast.
That's your best player.
Remember, we got we got 1/6 man to pick.
Okay, Henry Europe.
Uh, I'm going with Mitchell Robinson, man.
Boy, you're six Spaniards, You know.
That's my That's my seven, man.
Well, that's just son, my son of man.
You wanna be bumps City lob City east.
Um, my my centers, Karl Anthony towns.
Uh, you got a good one.
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I was gonna do bam out of by E.
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I need shooting.
I want my like my big toe shoot.
So I like Karl Anthony towns.
Okay, so, um, on, then you get you pick your sixth man.
My my six names Harden.
Yeah, you know, harm.
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You know, you don't like selling yet have you up? Oh, you know the truth.
What's his name? Uh, And beaten six men.
I know who I'm gonna have my sixth man.
So what? This one's tough honesty.
This one's tough.
Yeah, I need time.
All right. I'm gonna pick my sick man.
You already? Yep.
That's your best player.
He's e think about my team.
Think about my team.
Think about my team's best player.
I got Rondo there.
Rhonda is gonna be working.
Them working is here.
Look, this is how you doing, baby? Cool on.
You don't Don't worry about that, man.
Don't worry about that.
You're You're laughing now, though.
You ain't laughing.
I got my six men from the shot.
I'm gonna Bradley Beal badly deal.
All right, Bill and I got a solid team right there.
I'm not gonna lie.
You dio I do like your team Washington e o fantasy basketball, and put our team that we Charles, and see how we dio like that.
Henry, you got, um I want I have to go with Russell Westbrook.
You for? Um Oh, good.
I'm gonna have Thio go with, uh, I'm gonna have to go with from Gray Young.
I'm gonna have to go with him.
I like that train young like that.
I'm about to go with trail just cause you got you got a small team, man.
I got no really miller cooker and trade young three guards and Zion and several times and towns.
Oh, scratch that.
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You go on, Tyler hero.
Heck, Tyler, here.
Listen, uh, just blew up this year, you know, he's not a consistent, necessarily all star, you know. Oh, he will.
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I actually have to get going.
It was good. Yeah.
Yes, yes, We'll be here.
All right, man, You know something? I don't know.
Yeah, Let's see what happens tomorrow and after tomorrow night.
And we talked about how teams are looking next time.
Yeah, how I played.
Hey, maybe we could do a fantasy league.
Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll figure it out. Yeah.
You all right away, right. All right.
So what we're gonna do with the next time or what's gonna happen? Yeah, we'll talk.
Maybe maybe a weekly.
Yeah, Like like Gabriel said.
Maybe on Friday night.
Alright, A Okay, that's a good start.
This was a good start, guys.
Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Good night and night. Goodnight.
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