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00:00:00
Yeah, e I'm gonna let you.
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I'm gonna let you go first because it seems like E could go on about going for years about this guy.
00:00:09
E Just kill him, man.
00:00:12
I don't even know what to say.
00:00:14
I don't even know what to say about James Harden right now, you know? Listen, he's his own agent.
00:00:19
Right then.
00:00:22
I thought I read that he didn't have an agent, that he was his own agent.
00:00:25
Hey, has Ah, it says Diana Day.
00:00:30
Well, hold on, hold.
00:00:31
Okay, So this and Forbes, this was all right.
00:00:37
They're not I don't know how big this is, but yeah, it says are the Diana Day is the agent or Yeah, okay.
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I don't All right.
00:00:47
Maybe maybe he does that.
00:00:48
He was represented by his mother at one point, I guess.
00:00:52
Yeah, these guys all over holding eso.
00:00:54
Three years ago, he was represented by Rob Pelinka until Rob Pelinka became the GM.
00:00:58
And then he said, Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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So he said I wouldn't call my agent hard instead of his mother's role.
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She somebody that helps me out.
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Obviously its work blah, blah, blah.
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And then this three years ago.
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I don't e I don't I don't know.
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I don't know his mom.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know what's up with him.
00:01:20
He's, um Is James Harden.
00:01:25
I guess he's trying.
00:01:26
He's trying to make power plays, right? Like if he was LeBron James or something.
00:01:35
LeBron Yeah, that's a trip.
00:01:38
LeBron James at least has one ship.
00:01:40
One right? Hard it like I'm sorry.
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I'm gonna cut you up.
00:01:44
I mean, I just like like, like people like these type of guys.
00:01:47
Give me a pistol, please continue.
00:01:49
James Harden? Yeah.
00:01:50
I mean, I feel like that's what he's doing, right? He's trying to be trying to make power players like LeBron James and do what LeBron LeBron James has done.
00:02:00
Uh, LeBron James at least has, you know, like what LeBron James does or has done or what? Or not.
00:02:07
You know, he has a structure on infrastructure behind him, So it's not just him.
00:02:14
James Harden And And listen, if LeBron James was making a power play, if he's supposed to be wherever you know to show up for camp, he's not gonna be in Atlanta at a party with little baby right here.
00:02:30
he's gonna handle his business in a in a different kind of a way.
00:02:35
James Harden is he's making it bad for himself, I think.
00:02:39
Right, Because people are not gonna look at him and say, Yeah, all right.
00:02:44
You're talented, but you haven't won a championship, and we don't want to deal with you because, look, he had Who's Who's the point guard before? Chris Paul? Uh, Houston, Uh, was it wasn't Jeremy Lin, was it? He left already.
00:03:07
Um, Houston Rockets roster.
00:03:13
Then what? 7 18? Well, I mean, you know what? He's on his third star guard.
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It's sort of like that.
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You've got Chris Paul, was it? It's a Aaron Jackson.
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Dimitris Jackson.
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Chris Paul Kehoe.
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Give me to say I'm gonna just go to the last previous season, the point guard was there. Taylor.
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James.
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I guess James Harden was a point guard.
00:03:39
They have Patrick Beverley there.
00:03:40
They Patrick Yeah, eso.
00:03:43
I mean, like, he's on his third star guard, I guess if you want to call them, right, Um, Chris Paul Russell Westbrook.
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And that was John Wall.
00:03:56
Okay, Now you know, people can say all this stuff about Harden couldn't play with those guys or whatever, but the one.
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The one common denominator with all of those.
00:04:09
Well, we don't know.
00:04:10
John Wall is leaving, but with Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook going elsewhere is James Harden, right? And so we'll see if I'm Houston.
00:04:22
They got a new head coach, right? Yeah.
00:04:27
I just be like, Listen, don't even come back.
00:04:30
We're gonna find we're gonna get you out of here.
00:04:33
I wouldn't I wouldn't cave.
00:04:35
Hey, doesn't have a no trade clause, does he? E? Yeah.
00:04:42
If he doesn't have a no trade clause.
00:04:43
E If I'm Houston, I'd move him to where I'm going to move him to without worry about his trade clause or anything like that, you know, are without worrying about where he wants to go.
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I just move him.
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So wherever I think, I need to move on and get the best all perform and then let him do what he does.
00:05:01
That's what I would do if I was the If I was the Houston Rockets and just start over because right now I don't understand what the Houston Rockets are doing anyway.
00:05:09
But, you know, it was to me the whole John Wall thing was stupid.
00:05:14
I know they got a draft pick out of it, but it was still stupid, right? You know, especially if James Harden is gone.
00:05:20
Now you're stuck with John Wall in his contract.
00:05:22
That was to me, just the dumbest thing ever.
00:05:26
It just didn't make any sense whatsoever for a guy coming back from what was it? It was it Achilles e out? Yeah.
00:05:34
And Achilles fell down the steps in this house.
00:05:37
I don't know why you felt like why you feel.
00:05:41
Because knowing him, he allegedly had some issues or rumor taps, um, issues.
00:05:46
So you put that out in Houston, which is not better, because, you know, D c Rose Bar and you know, you know, So you you got in Houston, which probably has probably in the even stronger seeing party scene equally.
00:06:00
Maybe because all the rappers out there athletes up, um, you know, and the thing about harder, man, I'm just gonna say this man, these guys, I not to say I never root for anybody.
00:06:12
You know, their careers, phone out anything like that, right? But humility is a mother man.
00:06:18
Life will humble you because no one is immortal in the sports world, right hard.
00:06:26
And today it's Katie at one point, was really best play in the NBA, right? And not to say he's not gonna come back strong next year, but that Achilles basically wiped his dominance.
00:06:37
Not from everybody to see basketball fans in our radios, but basically from that.
00:06:41
You know that or of like, Oh, my gosh, this guy's invincible, right? You know James Harden again.
00:06:46
He's what? He's probably 30 31 or he's getting.
00:06:48
He's up there, right? And it's like, You know, you're not gonna be able to be James Harden forever, right? So when you start to burn Bridges and the rest of the notices once James Harden is no longer James Harden right that those 50,000,020 million, whatever the cops, they're not gonna be coming in like that like it's just you gotta be humble if you wanna leave.
00:07:08
Say, Hey, look, I don't wanna be anymore Rejected contract.
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I'm gonna sit out for respected a team.
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Hope you guys can work out something.
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I'm all ears, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:07:16
You know, there's a way you could go about being professional with those type of things.
00:07:20
And given that it's a player's league, right? But James Harden, you're hurting yourself because, okay, now there's no say you don't play for party or something like that, right? You're also hurting the league because again like you talked about, it's a business and the networks going to clip that c b A.
00:07:35
They want to take that C b A and turn it.
00:07:37
And they want to take back that money because they're not they They've been losing money.
00:07:42
So you gotta be up these big contracts at $50 million contract.
00:07:46
I don't know what is the next to be a 2023 23 24 the next CB A.
00:07:52
Yeah, something like that, you know, And I'm not saying it's not going to get a big kind of just you make is gonna look very different.
00:08:01
So I would just tell.
00:08:04
Yeah, he just has to be very careful how he goes about things because you don't wanna mess with your money.
00:08:08
I'm just saying now, you you're popular.
00:08:10
Whatever, but one bad injury.
00:08:12
Yeah, I mean, one loss of skill.
00:08:14
11 turn of the referee's actually calling to travel on you with that Bs BS Stop! Drop that crappy doesn't like ****. Move down.
00:08:23
You could definitely You could just turn into another player.
00:08:26
So I'm just saying he has to be humble, man.
00:08:27
I don't wish for anything that happened to him, but, you know, But again, I blame the owners, man, because you had Chris Paul there.
00:08:35
I think that you should have tried to find a way we're built to build Chris Paul.
00:08:39
You had Mike D'Antoni.
00:08:40
I'm not the biggest fan off, but he basically couldn't coach.
00:08:43
And then, Yeah, Daryl Morey.
00:08:45
And then this whole Hey, let's not have a center or Rim Protective E.
00:08:48
You basically allowed the team to become James Harden's two K fantasy on What the hell is James? Hard to know about winning.
00:08:56
Let's see.
00:08:57
What is James Harden? Know anything about what? Not to say that the coach is always right.
00:09:01
But these players, they sit there, they get coaches fired, they get players move that could have been instrumental to the team.
00:09:08
And then they blame it on the team and say, Oh, yeah, they didn't put enough help around you.
00:09:11
I didn't have the right coach and I'm like And he Yeah, he like Paul George.
00:09:17
Like I'm sorry.
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Like bump a Paul George.
00:09:20
Now you got you went from Doc Rivers Saved about Doc Rivers, right? You may not be able to make adjustments, but Doc Rivers, Tyronn Lue I don't care what no one says And Doc Rivers won a championship, Tyra 112 But doctor was one more.
00:09:37
So I would say relative Tyronn Lue off of his coach and offer his out of balance plays out of the great picks that they a lot of set with Leon Poole and Kendrick Perkins.
00:09:46
Uh, Kevin guard net.
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How to utilize him to set picks for Ray Allen.
00:09:50
Uh, that was a lot of it was also coaching. And they have talent.
00:09:54
Yes, but Tyronn Lue wrote a bandwagon.
00:09:55
So there's no accountability with these players in, you know? I mean, and it is only hurting them.
00:10:01
The networks are seeing this, they say, Oh, you guys wanna play? You guys wanna rest Probably more than you probably need to, or you wanna pull the shenanigans? Okay.
00:10:09
When the next debate comes up, you see, with these big contracts, go so and yeah, when when that next CB a comes up, trust me, they're gonna remember this stuff because the thing and it's not about, you know James Harden saying he wants to play for someone else or this is about trying to embarrass the organization.
00:10:33
Yeah, playing a simple right.
00:10:35
If you wanna play someplace else, fine.
00:10:38
You should be able to dictate your career where you want to go and and all of that, Right? But you gotta do it professionally.
00:10:47
Don't try to embarrass the organization.
00:10:48
Because if you try to embarrass my organization, then I'm gonna say, Okay, I'm gonna remember that, but bottom line And when I get my chance, Thio get my get back so I'll probably get my get backs or take it out in the C B A.
00:11:05
That's my good backs.
00:11:06
I'm just, uh my conspiracy to remind I'll say this thes teams can be very vicious because I'm not saying and again I'm not sticking up his guys guys a piece of crap.
00:11:17
But Antonio Brown, a soon as he pulled all that stuff with the Raiders, all that news about all the stuff he was doing with this woman and this woman all that stuff came out.
00:11:26
Now, I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
00:11:27
Whatever.
00:11:28
I'm just saying that it seemed fairly could convene because the Raiders will call my okay.
00:11:32
You want to screw us over? All right.
00:11:35
And then Ben, So I'm just saying it could be that I'm not saying this 100% true, but you gotta be very careful when you're messing with billion.
00:11:43
Because remember, these guys air, These owners are billionaires, and they don't like being embarrassed.
00:11:47
They don't like losing money.
00:11:49
They don't like being put in a bind where they can't recall money properly.
00:11:52
Like if you told you guys say I wanna be trained by Bob, they could set up something, right, gm the front office because somebody when you do it when you pulled these shenanigans because also the networks are looking at was a fatigue for business.
00:12:01
Fertitta, the owner of the rockets.
00:12:03
You looking at me like, Oh, this is your mess, right? So again, the Houston Rockets that is gonna be left in a bind.
00:12:10
So I'm just saying, Pardon.
00:12:12
You're going around again.
00:12:13
You being in these clubs or whatever.
00:12:15
When you know Kobe protocols, whatever or pandemic protocols and stuff.
00:12:19
Gotta be very careful, because these owners, they're gonna have they're gonna have spies around and make sure hey, get as much during this guy to screw him over.
00:12:27
If he's gonna screw us over, we're gonna screw him over.
00:12:28
So you gotta be very careful.
00:12:31
Now, let me ask you this.
00:12:32
What teams? Uh, do you think could be in the running from? Obviously, they mentioned 70 sixers.
00:12:38
Katie came out today.
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He said, Oh, James, don't.
00:12:41
Why are we talking about? He's not on my team.
00:12:44
Even though, you know, James, uh, Kevin Durant would love to play with his Another friend of his thes freaking clouds.
00:12:50
So what team would fit him? What team you think could bring him on and feel comfortable winning a championship? Know how material and destructive this idiot is? I don't see it working in Philadelphia.
00:13:05
I feel like they got too much going on there as it is.
00:13:08
So I I don't think it would be a good I just don't see it going Well, I don't see it going well in Brooklyn either.
00:13:18
You know, I feel like especially having a new look.
00:13:21
You got Mike D'Antoni.
00:13:23
Um, Steve Nash is a new coach.
00:13:27
Yeah, I mean, they're trying to They already got basically que de coming in.
00:13:32
Brand new when you think about it, right? Even though he was with the organization last season, he didn't play, you know, you got Kyrie and all of his stuff, and then you bring in James Harden coming in off of this.
00:13:44
I think it would be too much.
00:13:46
It would be explosive.
00:13:47
I just don't see where it would work. There.
00:13:49
Now, now, think about this 76.
00:13:53
We talked about this all the time, right? If they're trying to get rid of because, remember, they're in a bind with two.
00:13:59
They're talented players and and beat.
00:14:01
And Simmons, Won't this be Ah, good time to try to unload the guy that you think should be pushed on.
00:14:08
Like, honestly, I got Christian with it and beating Christian would Come on. We're not really.
00:14:12
Come on.
00:14:13
Um you know, could you see them? Like if Houston is dumb enough to bring on John Wall and you're trying to unload a guy like saying beat who? Talented player.
00:14:22
But, you know, I would say it's a dinosaur, but Obviously, he's in that mode of, you know, old school center.
00:14:29
Obviously, his body is just fragile.
00:14:31
He can't really work out.
00:14:32
And, you know, he's had issues with, you know, waiting conditioning before.
00:14:36
Do you try to pull that move to get and beat off of the 76 bring on the material guy like hardened? Who can, you know, probably played very well next to a best.
00:14:46
Uh, I mean, he wants to play with ball.
00:14:48
He could play.
00:14:49
What would Ben Simmons or you pushed Ben Simmons known that Ben Simmons don't wanna probably be there because he wants to make his way to the legs anyway, on Do you have a two man game? Will harden and be hard.
00:14:59
Don't get that ring.
00:15:00
Protect that guy could run a pick and roll guy.
00:15:02
You could just dump it down to the post and he could kill from the outside.
00:15:06
It don't work basketball wise hard on the 70 Sixers now Daryl Morey has come out and said, you know, for all it's worth that he's not trying to move either one of these two young guys.
00:15:19
You believe him? No, because their salary hell, basically e.
00:15:26
I don't I don't believe him at all.
00:15:28
But that's what he said.
00:15:29
So maybe that's just a play, you know, in negotiating with Houston, right? You know, I mean, well, I guess if you're the 70 Sixers, you probably can't.
00:15:43
You probably have no choice.
00:15:46
If the deal is on the table for James Harden and you have one of those guys and you could make a deal, you probably had no choice but to go ahead and say, Let's give it a go, Right.
00:15:57
You know, I mean, now.
00:15:58
Yeah.
00:15:59
If you're moving someone like, Oh, jeez, which one would I move when I move? Ben Simmons? Or would I move Joel be If I'm the Sixers, I would look to move Joe L and B.
00:16:08
Not Ben Simmons.
00:16:10
Although Ben Simmons maybe going to L A in a in a couple of years, when his contract is up anyway.
00:16:16
Yeah, that's what I believe.
00:16:18
You don't think he's gonna be looking to go to L. A.
00:16:20
Um So then, uh, but I wouldn't wanna put all of our horses on and be because he's injury prone.
00:16:32
So if I'm trying to make a move, I guess because Ben Simmons is a guard.
00:16:37
Maybe I would go ahead, move Ben Simmons.
00:16:40
Uh, you know, in the trade for James Harden bringing James Harden now you got a dynamic guard dynamic center on.
00:16:48
Then you can feel it.
00:16:49
You still, you know, who knows what else would go in a trade for James Harden.
00:16:54
It sounds like the Houston Rockets say that they wanna have, You know, they want young pieces.
00:17:00
They want draft picks.
00:17:03
Um, I don't know what Philadelphia looks like.
00:17:07
A Sfar, as draft picks are concerned and young players on rookie contracts, I think that's what I read that Houston wants.
00:17:15
If that's if they could get them, they almost don't have a choice.
00:17:19
You know, if they're trying to compete for a championship, you know, if you're younger team that is not really competing for a championship, you could probably say now this isn't the time for us.
00:17:30
We don't want to deal with it.
00:17:31
We'll stick with what we got, especially if you're a young team that's already competing in the playoffs.
00:17:36
Um, e don't know, man.
00:17:40
I don't know.
00:17:41
James Harden might.
00:17:42
He might end up just being stuck in Houston I can't see where his place style fits anywhere in the n B A right now for Riel.
00:17:51
I just don't know because he is.
00:17:56
There's a lot of guys in the N B A that have played one on one.
00:18:00
He's almost the ultimate one on one player.
00:18:04
E.
00:18:05
I hate this game, just the ultimate one on one player, he said.
00:18:09
I read Where did I read it? I don't remember.
00:18:12
But he said that he wants to play a style with e.
00:18:24
Don't know.
00:18:26
These guys get me so e Like what? Like Why do these e feel bad for the coaches? Man e feel bad for these coaches, man.
00:18:37
They've probably been, ah, lot of good coaches out there who had really good ideas, but somehow they were stuck with a freaking change.
00:18:46
Harder type of player at Westbrook type of play won't buy in, and then you're stuck because, like hey, coach or owner, I'm trying to teach these guys gm.
00:18:54
I'm trying to teach these guys.
00:18:55
That's Adana like, yeah, just do whatever what's her name says.
00:18:59
And if you don't want a championship, then all the then you get blamed for everything even though you could not coach the team.
00:19:04
So what you want to coach? I still remember David Black people lie about, say, David was just remember, I think the Cavaliers had the best record on the East.
00:19:12
That your e remember what e I think they had? They had the best defense that year.
00:19:18
I think they had.
00:19:19
I think they did have the best defense.
00:19:21
They had the best record in the East because David Blatt was.
00:19:27
Did you get fired after the All Star game of before the All Star Game? I would forget.
00:19:31
I think it was before you came in.
00:19:36
Tyrone came in.
00:19:38
Let me see if glad, because he was supposed to coach.
00:19:44
He either coached or was supposed to coach the All Star team, the All Star team.
00:19:49
It was fired before he was by five before in January.
00:19:55
Before James.
00:19:56
OK, eso Ty Lue coach.
00:19:59
The All Star team? Uh huh.
00:20:02
See how ridiculous that is? That's just ridiculous.
00:20:08
It's not fair, man.
00:20:09
It is not fair man like David Black and David Blatt was trying to make LeBron James.
00:20:14
Ah, better player, he told LeBron James all the thing Ko Kobe told LeBron James because Kobe said the same thing.
00:20:20
He said, Hey, LeBron, you can't run with these young guys like that and then expect to play on the other side, which is defense, right? Get your butt in the block.
00:20:29
Right and post up. Facilitate.
00:20:31
Move the ball around car Serbia Energy So you could play both sides of the ball right and be able to be an impact on both sides.
00:20:37
And David Black, literally told, told him the same thing playing the block, which he did because he did play the block until Iguodala shut him down.
00:20:44
And then, uh then he also told me to try to get him to play more off ball.
00:20:49
I'm saying, How does that make you that make sure more deadly player Uh, I and now David Black David blacks an idiot like David Black.
00:20:58
Maybe it's American thing, but you know, I wouldn't sit here and issuing David Black like that.
00:21:02
The guy can't coach. You know what he's doing.
00:21:05
But you know, when you're playing a game, you have to play this system, take the brunt of it when you lose on, get no credit rating, so right.
00:21:14
Unfortunately, David Black will be no longer coaching in the n b a elsewhere because of his health condition.
00:21:22
Right? So Susan David Blackman But these coaches man Lord Jesus, I feel bad for the man.
00:21:28
But let's get to some Nick newsman first and foremost your boy Mitchell Robinson, in his interview last night or yesterday, Uh, they were talking about and I might be paraphrasing here, but they were talking about Mitch Robinson and him shooting threes on Essentially, Tom Thibodeau said that, you know, is nicer for holding back for shooting threes, but we want to see him or at the foul line.
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Right? Said something.
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Thio, let me let me get the still open.
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Nice, Uh, let me get Let me get the exact article on it.
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But essentially, it seems as if he wants Mitch Robinson to get to the foul line a lot.
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Mawr makes it make his bones at the free throw line.
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I think it's shooting 74%.
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Is it? Yeah, he's just pretty good from the line, man.
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Every 4% at about 2.
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4 to going forward to win five attempts.
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So yeah, so it's saying so.
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According Thio Stefan Bondy of The New York Daily News, He said, We've seen the other lead guys who hysterically, historically been inside.
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Players move out to the perimeter, Thibodeau said via Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News.
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Usually start out with a corner three.
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If you get to a point where it's comfortable with free throws and extend out beyond that, so be it.
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But that's something that you wanna work on.
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But we also wanted to play to strengths and coming up whatever weaknesses he has.
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I'm not gonna Then Mitch Robinson said, I'm not gonna come out launching threes.
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They're not gonna tell me to take it if I do that, Robinson said.
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This year, if I'm more come, uh, this year I'm more comfortable the way I've been shooting lately, So why not? I've just been working on it.
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So if the shop presents itself, you know what are your thoughts on his comments? Both him, in a typical comments, e mean with Mitchell Robinson.
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I do agree.
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We don't want you just come out and start launching threes up, right, you know, for no reason or will in nearly all over the place.
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But we just want you to be confident enough to shoot the three when it's open, when it's not the three shooting the mid range.
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I'm not even worried about threes.
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Shoot the mid range when it's available and when it's open.
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If somebody drops off you because they think you're not gonna shoot it, shoot it.
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I don't care if you miss it, just shoot it, right, Because eventually, even if you even if you shoot and miss it now, that person at least gonna say, Oh, he's gonna shoot it he might make it so they gotta play some sort of defense on it, right? They can't drop back off.
00:23:47
Drop off that much because you're going to shoot the basketball.
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Um, as's faras Tom Thibodeau.
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I do like him saying, and I think all cultures should kind of take this approach.
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We're gonna focus on what you do well and let you do what you do well, but we'll slowly try to bring you along in those other areas, right? Because I feel like like, let's look at Denis Smith Jr last year, all right.
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I think I feel like part of his problem last year to was he was trying to learn how to be a facilitator, right? Because there was all this, all this talk, always about it.
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You know, there's an athlete, he's not a facilitator.
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And he's learned how to be a facilitator.
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This and that.
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And I agree.
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If he wants to be, ah, point guard in the n b a.
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And then you know, you gotta learn how to do some of that, at least right? But if you're forcing it and pushing it too much, then you forget about your other strength and you don't go to your other strengths at all.
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And now where you know you're stuck with, Ah, guy that was averaging 50 14 points a game, averaging five points a game because he doesn't know what to do, right? And of course, that's not the only reasons I'm just using that as an example, right.
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So I think it's smart to say, Listen, we're gonna let you do what you do, and then we're gonna try to bring you along with some of these other areas, right? So you start this season off.
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Mitchell Robinson is catching lobs.
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He's getting put back and stuff like that, and then you know he's comfortable in the season.
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Maybe you played 10 15 games and he said, You know what? Listen, I'm going to challenge you, to shoot, to jump shots a game.
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You know? What I'm saying is, you know, now that he's comfortable already doing something, and then you bring them along that way.
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I feel like if you start to force somebody, and that's the thing that's always on their mind except for defense except for defense, right? Like if someone doesn't play defense, then you gotta constantly like, Yo, this has to be This has to be in the front of your mind.
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But when you're talking about offensive things and you're trying to bring somebody into doing something new, that maybe that happened done before, you can't just put him out there and tell them to go do it right you got I think you gotta bring it along slowly, you know? So I think it's it's smart.
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It's a good idea.
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I just want to see it, though.
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You can't go too slow because even Tom Thibodeau brought this up in one of his interviews.
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He was he wasn't talking about Mitchell Robinson.
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He was talking about the development of the team.
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He was like, You know, you want the team to develop, but at some point, you gotta move forward and get better, right? So you know, you can't be developing for too long, and so it's the same thing, right? Yeah, we want him to develop, develop in certain areas.
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But at some point, you got to say, Listen, let the ball go shoot it.
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Yeah, I think Tom Thibodeau, because So here's what.
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Obviously, Tom Thibodeau with Chicago.
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Um you know, according to people breakdown, he ran the triangle about 25% of time.
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Right, Andi, obviously, on the strong side, the corner guy, there's gonna be opportunities to hit the three.
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Obviously, triangle changes a lot, but usually Tom Thibodeau use the big guy in the post or on that pitch post position, right? Right near the elbow where Joakim Noah made his bones about what I took from what Tom Thibodeau set was Hey, you know, I'm not, you know, basically, yeah, the three is there, you know we want you, but we want you when you talk about extended it out.
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Right? Mr.
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Robson also has to be able to hit that little foul on show that little mid range shot because he's not even showing really a semblance of that.
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He's not even showing really any ability, right? You know we can't jump to you even though, yes, the three point shot can be easier than you know, actual dribble drive, mid range shots.
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But let's work on something a bit more fundamental because just having you space out outside and just Jack a bunch of shots doesn't flow within a game plan.
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Which Tom Thibodeau, I think is gonna have his name because he said it knocks.
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And these guys have alluded that Abra learning his system blah, blah, you know, 111 said that he does call that I think will work for Knox.
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Um, if you recall from how the wolves ran right, they played thing called horns, right.
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We're basically the point guards at the top of the key.
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And then you have two big men, like they had dang dang and then cat, uh, play at the two elbow spots.
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Right now, the one cuts to the basket that is basically like those guys like a like a dynamic playwright.
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The point guard, Use the pick and roll 12 guys and one of the one of those foreign guys would pop out right for the, uh, 23 point line, one that would cut down to the basket one my state if the point guard could beat this man like it cause a lot of confusion.
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But Mr Robinson will be random.
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Gonna get a lot of opportunities.
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Um, at those horns.
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Now, obviously, Mr Robinson's mostly gonna be the guy that cuts to the basket once the point guard decision just cause he's so tall and anything with a delayed screen delayed pick and rolls about.
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I mean, Mr Robinson is shown to be stronger.
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That Thibodeau said, Hey, we're gonna work to strength.
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So obviously, if he runs those horn plays, you know, that's probably be to go to, But, you know, if you watch Cat Cat many times, got a lot of opportunities in that set where he popped out, they passed the cat because now that we kind of went with the play and cat has the opportunity to shoot.
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So Miss Robbins gonna get those opportunities on the triangle.
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I think it's kind of hard cause they're not.
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I don't think they were playing in a corner.
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Probably use a guard who can actually hit those shots and move around.
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But Mr Robinson, he's gonna have opportunity to hit those those threes.
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Or that you know that to our people.
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Call the long two, which is, I guess, the most useful shot in basketball.
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But it is e shot.
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You could make a shot.
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So, um so, yeah, he's going to get the opportunity again with me.
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And this is why I didn't like those videos because he's like Mitch work on nothing.
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You mentioned it to work.
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Give me to at least two moves around the basket that could get you there.
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Just give me that.
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I don't care about the three nights do Bama.
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The bio does not shoot threes like that bit about the Bible.
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Makes his bones at the mid range.
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I guess the long to whatever you wanna call it.
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And right now, the basket hooks, floaters, all that stuff, the little foul line shot.
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He makes his bones there, and that offense is a lot more point because he can space out the floor not from the perimeter but in the mid range where he's just not clogging the lane.
00:29:51
Mitch, all this shop got chimps.
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That's cute.
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And that's why I talk about with these thes thes trainers that get they're getting.
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And this could go to go to the Knicks, right? The lack of development and guidance that we have in the past few years if I was fizzle or any coach in the past.
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I'm telling you, I'm writing out game plans.
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Hey, we're gonna get you this, Coach.
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We're gonna get you this guy because we need to work on this, Bob, we're gonna give you a blueprint.
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Please work in this.
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Now, If you don't do that, then it could be like, all right, this guy's not professional, He's not working.
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And I do agree that Mitch Robinson, the whole team USA thing, they're probably some unprofessionalism there.
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But then again, because people kill me, Say, I just killed a young kids.
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I'm not killing young kids.
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I'm just saying that you can't depend these coaches because it makes no sense for me to be watching Mitch Robinson D j work on all these things, not deejay per se.
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But Mitch Robinson, especially working all these things.
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I'm not gonna do anything he doesn't.
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He doesn't do the things he was working because he did his last summer comes in this past season, doesn't do any of that.
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What five shots the whole season goes back to some.
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He's doing the same thing again, even though I believe Woodson came down south or whatever help you know to shoot the shot.
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But again, Mitch, I want to see you work with someone who could develop your post or your front to the basket.
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Skills were literally want to dribble you.
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Plant that left that left foot spin boom at the basket.
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You get to the line, you'll be up the top of the top centers in the league to shoot the most free throws, I think is like where you go.
00:31:06
Bear Cat and E.
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Mr Wilson might be Yokich on the average in like 66 or 55 or six attempts a game.
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This is only averaging about 2.
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4, and I think about what Mitch is.
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Like many other fundamentals of work on Mitch, you play 22 minutes tonight.
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You average nine and seven.
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If you were able to be out there.
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The same number of minutes of Gobert who averages were 35 36 minutes tonight.
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That nine and seven, literally without any offensive development, turns into what, a 13, 14 and 10.
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So we fundamental defense.
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She's working on fundamentals on offense to give me one or two moves.
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The three point stuff.
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You don't need that.
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Not if you don't want it.
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If you could develop, that's fine.
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But you have other things on your list you need to work on to make you an actual MBA player.
00:31:55
Yeah, and I wanted to go back to what you were saying about the post op.
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Sorry, Listen, Hey, May not.
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He may not ever be a post up player, but working on those post up moves it's not.
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It's not just working on moves.
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Is developing your footwork, right? And you know, footwork is the most important.
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That's the most important thing in the N B.
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A game, right? Footwork, footwork, offensively, footwork defensively, right? And so when you work on those post moves, you use those.
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You use those footwork techniques everywhere on the court, offensively and defensively.
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You know what I mean? And when I watch him when we see all these clips of him playing basketball with the Y M C A.
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Guys, not once do you see him posting one of those guys up or just working on footwork.
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They're doing drop steps to the basket or doing anything like that.
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But that post up footwork really does translate to the rest of the basketball court.
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And that's one of the reasons why I always have concerns.
00:33:00
I don't I can't say what he's doing when he's not on video, right? But some of those things is what continuously has been concerned about Mitch.
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We'll put like this guy because people were killing us like, Oh, you don't know what he's doing Off the off the put like this, guys, it ain't showing up in the game S o.
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All that stuff about.
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We don't know what he's doing, but like this, you spent two summers working on say he's working on this magical.
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These magical footwork, drills, whatever.
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What? It's not showing up on Andy.
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Even if Mitchell Robson tried to a spin move and it failed, I would be like okay, Maybe he was trying to work on that.
00:33:35
Fair enough And the thing about this is why I get mad with some of these rookies that when you're on when you know you're on a team, that's bad.
00:33:41
The regime is bad and they're going to clear out.
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The best thing I think you could do is take is to really take many chances with your game, right? And I'm not saying you go out there and say, Coach, I'm gonna do whatever I want.
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But hey, Fiz L E Let me just work in this thing.
00:33:56
Maybe you might.
00:33:57
Frank Lucchino can't be this guy to the basket, right? You know what I do post up like Mark Jackson's do at the elbow post up like Jason Houston and try to say, Hey, Coach, maybe it's a different way where if I operate from the block right, maybe I could facilitate and get it to the guys.
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Maybe on smaller guards.
00:34:10
I could, you know, you know, get to the basket, your files.
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Can we just try for a few games since But oh, blah, blah, Yeah.
00:34:16
I mean, I'm just putting out there and physical to me, actually seemed like a guy who probably would have been down with that.
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Been okay with that? Hey, saw that.
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This guy has been working on his moves.
00:34:26
He's really trying to get bad to such a such Alright, let's try.
00:34:28
Let's let's see how it works, E.
00:34:29
I mean, and I'm sorry, guys.
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I don't see with Mitch five shots all season, and every time he gets the ball, he's looking hot potato someone, someone take it If he's not, right? Yeah.
00:34:39
And you know, people people complain about Frank because he only took five shots a game.
00:34:43
I mean, Mitch only took five shots a game.
00:34:46
Yeah. Come on. This job.
00:34:48
Yeah.
00:34:49
No, no, no.
00:34:50
I'm saying no.
00:34:51
I mean, like, he was saying five shots like, um, I was surprised.
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I looked.
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I was like, Whoa, you know, Let's see how many shots became Mitch took.
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I was surprised when I seen that he only took five shots per game.
00:35:04
And a part of that is because he doesn't pull that jump shot.
00:35:07
It's a jump shots the whole season.
00:35:10
Five jump shots the whole season.
00:35:12
Yeah, e five e five.
00:35:18
Just fine. Good.
00:35:21
But **** jump shots the entire season.
00:35:28
And I wonder how many times he was wide open from the top of the key free throw line area.
00:35:35
When defense is dropped back into the center of the paint, I don't know how many times he was wide open.
00:35:40
E remember one shot he had against the Hawks.
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He made it, but it was like almost hot potato.
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Like you got the bones E.
00:35:47
I was like, Wow, just slow everyone in.
00:35:48
But again, they're gonna he's gonna have open shots.
00:35:52
He's at least with, at least for Frank.
00:35:54
I'll say is about Frank, where you saw him be a little bit more aggressive.
00:35:57
Yes, he was missing some wide open threes. Whatever.
00:35:59
But you want him to You want him to take those shots to feel comfortable.
00:36:02
Mitch, again, I don't know what these trainers, whatever is telling you this and also this thing.
00:36:07
This is what tips says about professionalism.
00:36:09
Right messages means something If I'm allowing people to take videos of me joking around, okay, is after practice.
00:36:17
I'm joking around, but you're posting as if it's something substantive, right? When you know you come into practice or you come into the team and your fundamentals is still poor, right? That is That's what the professionals talking because other people think about.
00:36:31
You're not the only person on the team.
00:36:34
Veterans might come over.
00:36:35
Other people might come over and try to play with you.
00:36:38
And also, when you talk about Lena team or being that impact player, they need to be thin.
00:36:41
You for coming to say I trust Mitch Robinson to dump the ball off him? I trust this guy because I've seen him work hard.
00:36:48
He doesn't play around with his craft. He's not.
00:36:50
When these guys on Instagram and Twitter, you know, you know I respect them. So I'm a father.
00:36:54
Young, the younger A lot of veterans do that where they follow after some of these younger guys don't make a fuss in the locker room, they know Hey, R J.
00:37:00
Barrett.
00:37:01
Now that dude is That dude is a young That's a young bull right there, man. I'm a follower.
00:37:04
After I like his intensity saying that all these younger guys who killed out here, uh, guy I mean, why is not young but Donovan Mitchell? You tell me guys don't see Donovan Mitchell where he carries himself, but even how he plays the way he carries himself.
00:37:17
It is very important.
00:37:18
So when I see you got like Mitch, right? If the Knicks were a good team in the playoffs, right, you could literally not, so you could do whatever you want, But you have leeway to go.
00:37:26
Yeah, yeah, he's a god**** important.
00:37:29
Um, I get that Knox.
00:37:30
I'm just saying, you know, he's a guy who doesn't God, Shammgod, blah, blah.
00:37:32
But I know he's doing good because the Knicks got 50 wins.
00:37:35
But when you're when you're the worst team in the n b a.
00:37:39
You and you're not performing up to par, it doesn't look good for you.
00:37:46
Why Thibodeau? Thibodeau A look.
00:37:49
Thibodeau might want to develop some of these kids.
00:37:51
I'm not saying you won't, but Till did not bring all these veterans on this team for for no reason.
00:37:56
Hey, he Thibodeau is a system guy and in a good way, where he will fit the system that fits the best players in the team.
00:38:04
If Mitchell Robinson cannot beat out Nerlens Nerlens no Wells Nerlens Noel, if if Knox can't beat, I don't even know if we would have a three.
00:38:12
So you wanna play Berks at three.
00:38:13
But that can be hard because it's kind of like a 22 But if Knox doesn't impress at the three, Frank doesn't impress with the off guard position.
00:38:22
No, look, we were talking about this earlier with with Hebrew and raw Hebrew.
00:38:31
When you look at the teams that are going to do well, at least to begin this season is gonna be teams that have been together and have seasoned players, Right, Because it been off for nine months.
00:38:43
You got a short training camp, right? You got what, One week of training camp? For the most part, the teams that are going to perform well, we're gonna be teams that are familiar with one another.
00:38:55
And that had been together, right? So what do you think Tom Thibodeau is gonna dio? He's gonna play guys that know how to play the basketball game and can produce, at least from the beginning, you know, to try to get some resemblance of a team going, you know, now there's a bunch of guys that's been here since last season.
00:39:17
So, you know, don't be surprised if those guys are in the mix and they're gonna be in the mix because they make up more than half of the team.
00:39:23
You know, the r J.
00:39:27
Kevin Julius, Frank D s J.
00:39:30
Those guys, right, Mitch? You know, they've been here.
00:39:33
Reggie Bullock.
00:39:34
Um, you know, So he's probably gonna try.
00:39:37
I would think, try to rely on those guys for some sense of, um, continuity but mawr than not he's gonna want.
00:39:48
I think he's gonna wanna play guys that just know how to play the basketball game.
00:39:52
Naturally, Uh, especially from the beginning of the season, because it's such a short season.
00:40:00
Such a short training camp.
00:40:02
You know, you wanna put guy, you wanna try Thio? Even if you're not winning, you wanna try toe, start with something substances, you know, start with some substance and do something and establish something, you know? You know, one of the things that he was saying I was listening to his his interview today and and and one of the things he was talking about this and they kind of lose to raw Hebrew was saying, talking about why? Maybe he doesn't play rookies much.
00:40:36
And one of the things that he was talking about in his video in his interview is that you know when rookies come in, one of the things that rookies have to deal with this understanding one, the nuances of the game, but also understanding, like veterans have been here and play it against a certain guys four or five, you know, 343 or four times a year, right? So they know their tendencies.
00:41:04
Rookies don't know their tendencies.
00:41:06
They have no idea what these guys are gonna do coming in, you understand? And and so that's part of the reason raw Hebrew was saying is that that's part of the reason why he might not play rookies is much because these guys are not aware off the defense's.
00:41:25
They got to get used to the speed.
00:41:26
You heard Emmanuel quickly today say, you know, one of the biggest changes was the speed to the game, like he didn't expect NBA players to be that fast, and they're faster than they thought they were going to be right.
00:41:39
All of these things, air changes for guys coming into the league.
00:41:42
Yeah, I agree with you.
00:41:44
I was here yesterday and Lawrence here's to Florence says, Go, subscribe and I would really a man on the island fighting against these lunatics that we're trying to argue with me that okay, you have the veterans who because typical set himself, he said.
00:41:59
The veterans they under they understand the game.
00:42:03
They understand nuances and all those things a little bit quicker than ever been some of the younger guys, young guys.
00:42:07
Obviously, they benefit from the athleticism whatnot.
00:42:11
But if you bring in a guy like Berks who played with the Warriors who played with the 70 Sixers and was a piece on those teams piece, it's not to say that R.
00:42:21
J Barrett or not or Frank or stupid.
00:42:24
But we can't sit here and say, Okay, the Knicks didn't have, ah system play.
00:42:27
We didn't have proper development and then say they could get in a room with some of these veterans like Austin Rivers, who, yes, the Rockets, in terms of their system, was tried.
00:42:37
But saluting G four point this out.
00:42:39
They were running things, according to G, is fact that they were running stuff like the Spanish pick and roll, which is not a simple You have to pee Cerebos upto smart and running at a cerebral place to make it naturally effective, right? So a guy like Awesome Rivers who's been around play with the Clippers, play the Houston Rockets is coming into a room with Frank.
00:42:59
You're gonna stand and tell me because everybody loves all everybody loves Frank is like no one's dissing frank or knots, but they have mentally you could talk about.
00:43:08
Oh, they learn it.
00:43:09
And then when you're on the court, that's the same team.
00:43:11
Well, let me say Frank was here, Horn said.
00:43:14
Complain that these guys, they're not gonna run a triangle because it's like, Oh, it's too complex by.
00:43:17
But again, you have young kids and there's no guidance, no coaching, right? And yes, I'm blaming the coaching and the front office.
00:43:25
They didn't horrendous job with these next kids, right, But again, you get veterans into.
00:43:31
Right now, it's up to these young kids to get it quickly to understand, right? Here's my role in this spot, and maybe that's Hey, let's play some pickup games in the gym or, you know, let's do something after practice.
00:43:41
Let's try to run it, let me get, you know, intuitive.
00:43:43
But Thibodeau is not going to sit here and wait for these guys weights 567 years to see if there's something in.
00:43:50
Not to see if something in Frank Frank's a free agent next year.
00:43:54
Yeah, I mean, and even, you know R J.
00:43:56
Barrett, who I like if they find a option but more dynamic.
00:43:59
R. J. Barrett.
00:44:00
Yeah.
00:44:01
I mean, not to say they they're looking to do that, but I just feel like Thibodeau's on a different.
00:44:05
I think the front office on a different train was like, Hey, you know, there's no more lollygagging.
00:44:09
We're gonna get veterans to build the system for the first maybe two years And then, you know, look, we're looking at the draft, looking at veterans to bring in.
00:44:16
We are trying to build this team and develop them rather quickly.
00:44:19
There's gonna be instruction.
00:44:20
Got Bryant.
00:44:21
You got Kenny pain you got you know, Leon Rose and World Wide West making moves in the front office.
00:44:27
Guys gotta hurry up, man again.
00:44:29
People kill me and say, I'm harshing the kids.
00:44:31
The NBA doesn't care.
00:44:33
It's brutal.
00:44:35
And look, when you look at the guys that they brought in compared to the guys that they brought in last year, people can look and say, Well, you know, they kind of did the same thing as last year.
00:44:44
They did, But I think they were smarter about doing it.
00:44:47
Because when you look at Austin Rivers, how many years has been in the playoffs? He's been in the playoffs a bunch of years, right? Berks? He just came from Philadelphia who was in the playoffs last season, Right? Nerlens Noel.
00:45:01
He just came from okay.
00:45:02
See, They were in the playoffs the last two years when he was on the team.
00:45:06
So they brought in guys who came from playoff teams.
00:45:08
Now look at last year, right? Bobby Portis? He didn't come from a playoff team.
00:45:14
Nope.
00:45:15
Right now Alfred Peyton didn't come from a playoff team.
00:45:17
No, Reggie.
00:45:20
Well, they, uh, place they went.
00:45:25
They went in the playoffs, right? Uh, Mark Morris.
00:45:29
Marcus Morris was the only guy that was in the playoffs.
00:45:33
The Onley guy that was in the playoffs that they brought in last season because the other guy, Wayne Ellington, he wasn't in the playoffs.
00:45:43
There is a difference.
00:45:46
There's a difference because these guys air coming from winning.
00:45:48
They're coming from being contributors on winning teams.
00:45:53
Not just, you know, sitting at the end of the bench, every single one of them or contributors.
00:45:59
Alec Berks averaged 12 points a game with Philadelphia playoff team Nerlens.
00:46:04
Noel was, you know, backup center, who played significant minutes.
00:46:08
Austin Rivers, backup guard who played significant minutes.
00:46:13
I mean, you know, So you know these guys, they're gonna come in with some kind of expectations as well, you know, and feeling like, Yo, I'm coming from a playoff team to a team with a bunch of young guys that didn't make the playoffs.
00:46:26
I feel like I should be starting.
00:46:29
They may not say that in the media, but I would feel that way like, Yo, I can't.
00:46:35
I played a significant role on a playoff team.
00:46:37
You guys are bums.
00:46:38
You know what I'm saying? Like, why wouldn't you think that Austin Rivers, Alec, Berks and Nerlens Noel could come from playoff teams and come here and start? I had to fight with these guys.
00:46:53
I'm like, Do you think that would sign a three year? I mean, when you're guaranteed deal with the Knicks, the bum a Knicks Right now we're trashed, right? Who sit on the bench outright, Not even.
00:47:07
Hey, we're competing.
00:47:08
I'm just doing the best to watch.
00:47:11
Yeah, no Knick fans.
00:47:15
We are the most passionate.
00:47:16
I love the Knick fan base.
00:47:18
I love New York fan bases, for the most part, and I've been around the country where some of the most passionate inform people right there.
00:47:26
Other pockets, where is, like that's all they have in their very passionate but were the most passionate right? One thing that that passion does.
00:47:32
I think it makes his delusional right, because I asked this question yesterday, and it's not the issue on any of the young kids.
00:47:38
I ask these guys if you had a chance to redo it again, would you draft knocks? And those guys couldn't at first they like, and then they're like, Oh, yeah, I would draft.
00:47:48
I'm like So if you love not so much, you know what stuff you wouldn't you tell him? You say you wouldn't draft him out right? Given if you have the opportunity on what you know 2024 whatever, You wouldn't draft him again.
00:47:59
So again, guys, we have to be objective.
00:48:02
NBC's kids again.
00:48:03
These kids did not have coaching, but again, they're very fortunate guys who go their whole career.
00:48:08
I don't think Mitch No mistress.
00:48:09
She probably had when he's with Don Nelson, I think right running TMC.
00:48:14
But there guys in the NBA who put up numbers or could have put up numbers talented, who have never played with a good coach your whole career.
00:48:22
And that's just how the n b a goes.
00:48:24
You're not.
00:48:26
It's not a given that you'll be playing in a with a smart front office or with a good team, because you're gonna play your best years with a crappy team, get to your next contract, get a bad injury.
00:48:36
Now the only contract you have or you get is with some crappy team at the end of the bench.
00:48:41
Yeah, I mean, if you're healthy, and you could do something be as aggressive as you.
00:48:46
This is why I respect R. J.
00:48:48
Barrett, R.
00:48:49
J.
00:48:50
Barrett.
00:48:51
You could talk about his officials here at the at the club, which is poor.
00:48:52
You could talk about officially from the field, which was 40% 32% from three.
00:48:57
But you saw him be aggressive when he had that ankle injury.
00:49:00
Hired of shooting coach you saw splits.
00:49:02
Better splits from outside.
00:49:03
Obviously, it kind of regressed back to the mean.
00:49:05
But you saw him pushed Push, push the agency volition.
00:49:10
And, hey, I'm gonna try toe, make an impact, Right? So then when the whatever coaches there, but you apart, you compare them down and be like, Alright, RJ, when you do this, you gotta do this.
00:49:18
When you when you when you defend, you gotta defend with this thing.
00:49:22
You're leaning this way too much of Bob LA We could we could tone it down.
00:49:26
But some of these younger kids, man is doing that on and look, I didn't see last night.
00:49:36
But I can't understand why somebody would argue with you about Austin Rivers if you listen to Austin Rivers.
00:49:41
In his interview, he said, I've never been in.
00:49:43
I've never had this kind of a chance.
00:49:44
What chance do you guys think he's talking about? Every hey could say everything that he wants.
00:49:50
Everything he wants about, you know, doing what the coach says and what that kind of stuff.
00:49:55
You wanna know what chance he's talking about? He played behind Chris Paul.
00:49:58
He played behind Russell Westbrook and James Harden.
00:50:01
He never had a chance to be the one of the primary starting guards on the team.
00:50:07
That is what he's talking about when he says, I never had this chance.
00:50:10
Oh, he's never had that chance.
00:50:13
He thinks that he could come in.
00:50:15
He's 28 years old, 28 years old, is about the prime of your career.
00:50:19
I'm sure he thinks that he could come in and say, I could be one of your starting guards telling and his father kept saying, Hey, New York is a good place his father's looking at like, Look, you will not get starting play here and I don't want a position where I'm you have preference because you're my son and a weird conflict adventures of like, Oh, we gotta play because it is Doc Rivers, son, right? Versus you go to the Knicks and the competition so far ain't up there and let me say it nothing, because you brought up a good point, right? Tom Thibodeau brought in a lot of veterans who do things that he wants in a system.
00:50:57
Very well.
00:50:58
Look at the guards he's used with the Bulls guards who can shoot off the dribble guys like especially in the tribal looks.
00:51:06
Kirk Hinrich, Go watch this Highlights with, uh, Kim Noah and the travel said on the weak side, he have to.
00:51:14
Kim Noah get the ball passive.
00:51:16
Set the pickle hirings.
00:51:17
Guy hiring Schuster. Three.
00:51:19
Right? Same to Jimmy Butler, Right? He likes guards.
00:51:23
Aaron Brooks.
00:51:24
Guys who can create who can drive a little bit and score off the dribble.
00:51:29
Uh, Rivers does that.
00:51:31
Burt's does that right? They got a guy Mouse powers who did that.
00:51:34
And I'm not saying that mouse power is gonna be out.
00:51:36
Anybody could guy from seeing whole.
00:51:39
He did that very well at City Hall.
00:51:41
Thibodeau.
00:51:42
This is why I respect about Thibodeau and what we haven't had in a while.
00:51:44
He has a vision, and he's getting guys vision, right? And this interview.
00:51:50
It's interchangeable because obviously Phil Jackson got frank for the triangle, blah blah, But I think even the friend thing trying was kind of like a reach right? But this guy's getting guys like I mean, look, you could be in a trying You could be emotional, be whatever.
00:52:01
Don't you gotta shoot they could shoot so births can work in different types of, you know, I mean, like, the talent can be describe the different system.
00:52:08
But for Tom Thibodeau system, he's getting these guys.
00:52:10
So it's up to D.
00:52:11
J.
00:52:12
Was not a good shooter.
00:52:13
Is up to Franklin Lucchino, who is not a good shooter dribbling off the dribble, right? A guy like Knox as well to who's gonna have a lot of open, uh, corner threes.
00:52:23
He has to hit those shots.
00:52:24
And we talked about Knox, didn't have a didn't really playing a system similar to UK Bob.
00:52:28
A lot of guys are playing systems similar with the in college, but I did see and I'm not killing knocks all the way.
00:52:33
But I did see many times where Knox was missing open threes last year, where he would flare out and he was a secondary option.
00:52:38
But the ball got to him because the action on one side was stagnant and he would miss a lot of those shots when he flat out to the right wing or whatever.
00:52:45
Miss a lot of open shots, so they're gonna be put in a position, but they can't beat out veterans remember also members only getting three million and he plays good operation defense and he could hit the three and you get the shot better than Frank.
00:52:57
Frank has to beat that out.
00:52:58
That's 8.
00:52:59
8 points with 35% from three.
00:53:02
Tough of think three or four attempts up e okay, e saw mhm the other day when I did show.
00:53:18
Not yesterday, the day before.
00:53:20
Uh, the Knicks put out, you know, just some video, not video pictures of guys playing.
00:53:27
They have blue jerseys on white jerseys on Right, your blue jerseys was Alfred.
00:53:32
Peyton looked like Alec Berks, R J.
00:53:36
Barrett, Julius Randle and New Orleans? No.
00:53:38
Well, right now, I'm thinking, if Austin Rivers there, he might have been in that blue jersey over Alfa.
00:53:45
Peyton? Uh huh.
00:53:47
Maybe.
00:53:48
But also, Rivers isn't playing right now because of a groin injury.
00:53:53
I said he may not even playing a preseason game on Friday.
00:53:57
Um, and then the white jerseys.
00:54:00
Uh, there was Frank Lucchino, Kevin Knox, Obi Topping Mitchell Robinson and I didn't see who they had that point guard.
00:54:06
I'm assuming Dennis Smith Jr these may or may not be the squads that they go with.
00:54:13
Listen, you know, for the first preseason games, he'll go with the squad and then they might switch up.
00:54:18
You know, as he's looking, Thio put together lineups, lineups that he feels works.
00:54:23
Um, Austin Rivers is going to be in those lineups.
00:54:29
I could guarantee he's gonna be in those lines.
00:54:31
There's no doubt about it.
00:54:32
And I wouldn't be surprised to be started, you know? I mean, because with the style that they're gonna play as's faras You know, I don't think you've gotta have that quintessential point guard.
00:54:45
No, you can handle the rock.
00:54:47
He could.
00:54:48
You know, no one's gonna take the ball from him What I'm saying, so I don't think you gotta have that quintessential guy.
00:54:53
He had Kirk Hinrich that point guard before.
00:54:55
He wasn't their quintessential you know, crazy, stupid point guard, you know, grows was out.
00:55:01
So I mean, you know what I mean.
00:55:03
And Austin Rivers could be I mean, maybe can't shoot like Kirk Hinrich, you know? But that prototype of a guy, you know, So yeah, these guys, those three guys didn't come here to ride the bench.
00:55:16
I'm sorry.
00:55:17
Then they come here to ride the bench and, you know, you look at obviously R.
00:55:22
J.
00:55:23
Barrett would be the youngest guy.
00:55:24
But if you put out I lineup of Austin Rivers Alec Brooks, who could shoot it from three R J.
00:55:30
Barrett Julius Randle Nerlens Noel.
00:55:33
That's kind of a not kind of there's a veteran lineup.
00:55:37
I mean, the oldest guy in that lineup is 28 I guess.
00:55:40
Um, and then you have a young lineup, you know? Then you know, then then it's gonna become.
00:55:48
Then it's gonna become in that second line up.
00:55:51
There's a couple of guys that are gonna be left out is then it's like who's left out? Because, you know, if you have Dennis Smith Jr.
00:55:59
Frank Miller, Kina Kevin Knox, he's not gonna be left out.
00:56:02
Mitchell Robinson.
00:56:03
He's not gonna be left out.
00:56:05
Oh, be Topping.
00:56:06
He's not gonna be left out, E.
00:56:08
I mean, he could he could He could end up in the first line up at some point on then.
00:56:14
But then you got Reggie.
00:56:15
Reggie Bullock, You know, Does he Does he fit in in the second line up, or does he get into that first line up.
00:56:22
I think Brooks is a better shooter.
00:56:23
Reggie Bullock is probably a better defender.
00:56:26
Uh, real quick, because that's important, right? Who is gonna play the three if we start saying R.
00:56:33
J.
00:56:34
Barrett to have you put Argent three? Obviously, the two is birds, but you could play.
00:56:37
There's a lot right? And obviously, Berks, I believe this place from three in the past as well, too.
00:56:41
But do you Who do you play? Three.
00:56:44
Do you think Tip is gonna trust knocks to start the season? I don't think he's gonna.
00:56:50
I don't think he's going to start him.
00:56:52
I don't think he's starting.
00:56:53
I don't think Kevin Knox is starting.
00:56:55
Will he be in that second unit and 25 minutes a game? I think so.
00:57:00
But it's going to start there.
00:57:02
I don't think so.
00:57:03
Here's the only thing.
00:57:04
Here's the only thing.
00:57:05
What? When I watched when I rise, Reggie Bullock play that three last year.
00:57:11
Sometimes some of the three men he's 66 I guess.
00:57:15
But for some reason, some of those other three men look so much bigger than him.
00:57:19
When I was watching, I was like, What the heck right, so we don't have any.
00:57:25
The only person who is that size, but he doesn't have the strength and clearly doesn't have the defensive skill. He's not.
00:57:31
Well, it's far as we know.
00:57:33
Based on last season, he's not ready.
00:57:34
Thio take control of that position.
00:57:37
Is Kevin Knocks, the only one who has some of that size that you've seen some of these other three men with? That's why it's important that he, at some point takes that step forward because R.
00:57:47
J.
00:57:48
Barrett is not that size either.
00:57:50
This year, I think Look at the size of some of these three men.
00:57:53
This is what scares me about Knox and that he's such a confidence guy, right? You know, when the going gets tough and so it's a G Wiz Sak passe, not play, bro.
00:58:02
I'm so Sinopoli mother.
00:58:04
Uh, the thing I'm scared about with him is that he could be if he's in a game, say against.
00:58:13
I'm trying to think of a really dynamic three, just any good, dynamic three in the league and then lighting him up right? Does that dragged down his game to where now you can't really You can't really keep him at that position.
00:58:29
But you think you got a LA gym at four well being.
00:58:32
And Randall, Yeah, I mean the thing, what it's like for Knox, and I'm not trying to belittle him or infantilizing or something like that.
00:58:40
It's just that, you know, it's almost baby steps with him, right? Because he's just not a He plays too much to his emotions that if a guy's cross him over and he's going to file trouble. Yummy.
00:58:50
I could see him, you know, hanging his head down.
00:58:52
And it affects his offense and his focus in the game and that stuff in.
00:58:55
I'm not sure he has a because the threes will if, unless he's improved, his footwork and his reaction time, eyes defensive, anticipate anticipation that he's going to struggle against some dynamic threesome.
00:59:08
And, yeah, he's tips, tips will look at that and be like, All right, well, e tell you what, They've clearly been working with him.
00:59:19
I mean, from this is coming from them all summer long.
00:59:23
Uh, you know, so So we'll see what it is.
00:59:26
You know, Tom Thibodeau's and Tom Thibodeau? Not just time, Uh, and some other people said Listen, we've been I've been in his ear.
00:59:35
They're working with him all summer.
00:59:36
Kevin knocks that they've been working with him all summer.
00:59:39
Um, he had a lot of glowing things to say about about him when he when they asked him about him.
00:59:46
All right, um, so I think they're going to give him every single shot to be They're gonna I think they're gonna give him every single shot.
00:59:54
Maybe not in the starting lineup, but I think he's gonna play, you know, to his credit, I like the fact that he said he wants to start.
01:00:02
He's gotta prove he's got to go out there and do it and prove it.
01:00:05
Prove that, you know, he could be the starter, but hey, everyone else, everyone else, except for Mitchell Robinson, you know, with Mitchell Robinson were normal is no.
01:00:15
He was like, I'm sure he wants to start.
01:00:16
I want to start, so we're gonna be battling it out.
01:00:19
Right? Um I like it when a player is just honest.
01:00:22
Like that, though, like, yeah, I want to start.
01:00:25
You know, it doesn't mean if I don't start that I'm gonna be mad, but yeah, I want to start, because when I'm playing, I want to start and I want to finish.
01:00:34
You know, I'm saying and you know, I don't get mad if I don't start but, um, we'll see.
01:00:41
We'll see Because because the Knicks, there's there's just a whole at that three spot, there's a whole.
01:00:49
There's just a whole at that three spot and you know he's got the prototype, although I although I've always felt that he was what you know, I'm just confused, though, because I don't know how tall guys are anymore, right? E thought he came in illegal.
01:01:05
He was 69 Right now, he's 67 I thought Frank was 67 Now he's 64 so I don't know how tall guys are anymore, so I can't say who's what.
01:01:17
But when I thought he was 69 I was like, I think he's gonna end up being a four now.
01:01:23
It's a 67 so I don't know what because they are supposed to be 67 right? He's 66 I see he's listed at 66 e c them in Frank standing next to each other.
01:01:37
They looked the exact same height and Frank.
01:01:39
It's 64 so I don't know who what you had last year were like, Yo, man, yo, Frank is growing, man.
01:01:46
Frank is like 67 e like this year.
01:01:50
E Like what? You guys are you guys all trash saying that some of those things knocks the 69 yo stayed in New York and suits to stay in New York.
01:02:00
Podcast, man, go subscribe on iTunes.
01:02:02
Man on.
01:02:03
I just posted a link like 30 times.
01:02:05
So go subscribe to stay in New York podcast.
01:02:07
But now he's saying he's six not saying New York.
01:02:09
Noah's argue with you don't know.
01:02:11
We don't I don't know.
01:02:13
E don't really even care.
01:02:15
If not, look, if nice completed.
01:02:17
Three.
01:02:18
If you could give me now with not e always I'm not defense and is awareness right? I think the shooting is gonna come, but this is what I think about with Knox.
01:02:28
He's one of these confidence guys in one way to boost up your confidence.
01:02:32
If you could shut down another player right, if you have a guy who is who is basically he's ineffective against you and he's pressing right, he's like **** Knox's shutting down, man.
01:02:43
Yeah, I mean to me, as long as you're in the game like I've seen with Frank Alisa's rookie year, that gives you confidence.
01:02:51
That gives you cheap points, you know, I mean, even though Frank wasn't really shoot like that, even his rookie year.
01:02:55
But I think that he look, he just looked more confident floor.
01:02:57
If Knox has that, given that, you know he likes to shoot the three or he has the ability to shoot the three, I think that can open up his game.
01:03:05
So is up to him to take to the coaching again.
01:03:07
He said he's working on his postgame Andi talking about drills and stuff.
01:03:10
He said he talked about the postgame work where we'll be talking about supposed to game with.
01:03:14
I think tips is giving him instructions.
01:03:16
I'll give that to tip tips is like, Hey, do this such and such and such blase, blase, Blasi Um and symptoms like till this passive aggressive, I think, is like if he thinks that you are, I think like this, I don't take much from what you're saying.
01:03:29
But I think this is just my theory.
01:03:31
If you're at least trying to be a tentative and work hard at understanding what he's trying to parlay.
01:03:35
He's going to give you a nice thing.
01:03:37
He's gonna say blah, blah, blah.
01:03:39
But if you like Mitch who probably came in not saying Mitch was getting drunk and I'll give a **** it there's like, I know this dude.
01:03:46
I know what this dude is about.
01:03:48
Like, Hey, so how do you feel about Mitch? Well, no, no, Wall is right there.
01:03:52
We just got scholar right up.
01:03:57
Yeah, I mean, he did.
01:03:58
He did have some good words about it.
01:03:59
But even when you read in between some of the things he said about Mitch when he was speaking good about him, right, he was like, you know, Mitch, He was like, you know, the sky's the limit as to you know, where he could go.
01:04:12
And he talked about things he could do defensively.
01:04:15
And then he was like, but if he could dio, uh, you know, some of these if he could learn some of these fundamentals, Basically, I'm paraphrasing, But if you could learn some of these fundamentals and understand some of these nuances that he could really be you know, he could really be a great defender.
01:04:31
You know, he keeps harping back and going back to him like just the fundamentals that he needs to dio when he talks about Mitch.
01:04:38
When he talked about DS day today, right? Uh, he doing there about some conditioning, you know what I'm saying? He was like, he was like, Now, you know, they said that he was working on conditioning all summer with Abdul Raouf, but he was, like, the excellent about his jump shot, and he was like, you know, in order for him to, you know, he went into the whole thing, you know, about shooting and scoring and doing this.
01:05:05
He was like, But, you know, you gotta be in good shape to do this and that, and I'd like to see him continue to work on his conditioning so he can do whatever he needed to dio, you know? So he throws, he throws some things out there.
01:05:16
I think a lot of times in raw Hebrew was talking about this earlier.
01:05:20
You can hear a lot of what he says from what he doesn't say.
01:05:24
You know what I'm saying? Like they were asked him about Frank.
01:05:27
He was like, I like Frank.
01:05:30
You know, he was like, he's, you know, he's a big guard, you know? He works hard.
01:05:36
Obviously he can play defense, but I want to see what he could do.
01:05:39
So what does that mean? I want to see what he could do offensively, right? It says I want it, but, you know, I'm looking to see what he could dio.
01:05:46
So he already knows what he could do defensively because he talked about it.
01:05:50
He wants to see what he could do offensively.
01:05:51
So, you know, I mean, tips tells you, but you just got to read it.
01:05:56
You gotta read between the lines a little bit with him.
01:05:59
E think with tips.
01:06:00
Hey, if you are a student of the game, I mean, the guy went to study and thank Susan G for points out.
01:06:05
And I looked up.
01:06:06
The guy went to the warriors practice.
01:06:09
Hey, we've been speaking with Andrew Wiggins.
01:06:11
Andrew was like, I was surprised to see him, but, you know, we had a good talk myself.
01:06:14
The god of the student of the game, right? He he is going to put so many concepts around these kids, but it's to their benefit, right? If you don't buy into is no more.
01:06:26
Hey, the triangle I don't wanna learn.
01:06:28
It's like, Hey, look, it may not be trying maybe something else.
01:06:31
But if you're not gonna commit yourself to learning the system right and you shouldn't like, who do you benefit on this team? Who do you benefit in this team and look there, guys like, you know who I think it might be asleep.
01:06:43
I think I have two sleepers for this team.
01:06:45
I think quickly is a sleeper.
01:06:47
If he might kill me, I think he might get his way up from the bench.
01:06:50
Will not be able to start.
01:06:51
But I think he might be a Aaron Brooks type.
01:06:53
Miles power, I think.
01:06:56
Miles Powell, giving his time at seeing all the fact that was a leader.
01:06:59
Uh, the fact he played, he played well, The bombing.
01:07:02
Obviously, Last year he had the concussion, the foot injury.
01:07:04
So his numbers kind of dipped.
01:07:06
But this is a guy in Thibodaux.
01:07:08
I think he likes those Those bulldog type of guys like guys.
01:07:11
Look, the kids spent four years in college.
01:07:13
I mean, Thibodeau's probably like I know that's the old paradigm, but I love it.
01:07:17
I love I love these things. Guys air stay in school.
01:07:19
And they, you know, they worked on a game was Hey, I could you know, I average 17 the first year. I should be an MBA.
01:07:24
Something you could have a 17 1 year.
01:07:26
They still not be ready for the MBA, right? A lot of guys like that, we probably have a funeral on our team. Like knocks.
01:07:32
Um, so I think he's gonna look at a guy like Miles Power comes in. Beats out D S J.
01:07:37
He might be a bit ideas.
01:07:38
J think about this to drive to the basket.
01:07:40
Could shoot eyes, um, or put together player than D S J right.
01:07:44
And DJs, Flash or D J Ceiling is mostly based off his athleticism.
01:07:49
Yeah, I mean, and mouse power isn't known to be uber athletic, but he gets to the basket, which means that when he's playing against guys man one on one and he playing a team where he was, he was the only real talent, you know, he was finding ways to be guys in the basket which means smarts and known All right.
01:08:04
I know his hips shaped this way.
01:08:06
Or put this way.
01:08:07
I know he's playing.
01:08:08
To speak this way. Is playing the wrong defensive stance.
01:08:10
All right, let me catch with Jimmy.
01:08:11
Gotta write those basketball.
01:08:13
Smart said a guy like typical, I think.
01:08:14
Well, value.
01:08:16
And so a guy like my problem might be that a guy like quickly because he could hit the three and you hit the shot.
01:08:21
Um, he's a I was like, Dude, old guard.
01:08:24
But he's like a two guard who could do a little bit of everything right? Defend.
01:08:28
He's He has a 68 expands always 63 but 68 wingspan.
01:08:32
You know, he might come in.
01:08:33
He might come in getting 10, 15 minutes off the bench.
01:08:36
Tip looks up and the kid is hitting 33 threes a game or 23 threes a game.
01:08:42
Contribute on defense.
01:08:43
Thibodeau's like, you know? Hey, effort.
01:08:45
This'll, kid.
01:08:46
Maybe he needs to start by next year.
01:08:48
Maybe you push RJ batter, the three have quickly played to.
01:08:50
I'm just saying I'm just trying to put out the guys that might beat out because they all have a Thibodeau type of attribute about that.
01:08:58
He values a lot, So these years, they better be very careful.
01:09:03
Uh, everybody in the Chapman.
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I apologize for the person who's calling it.
01:09:09
I don't want to cut off.
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Sim was Met Tab don't And then Blanca somethin blank.
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I apologize.
01:09:17
I don't mean, uh, ignore you guys, but no sin has to go and play ball.
01:09:21
E about to do the front stoop for about 30 minutes, and then I'm going to basketball practice.
01:09:27
Tim is gonna Simmons going to get his ankles destroyed.
01:09:29
Eso wish him luck.
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You know, you don't gotta know more, but thank you, God e my left.
01:09:38
Hey, tried he tried.
01:09:40
Don't something out there and get me off real quick.
01:09:43
See that? I'm trying to say, man, I know Isaiah's trash, But come on, Z, now I'm just going, you know, smooth The Simpsons.
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Everybody here, man, Bro, all the podcast out there.
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All the guys coming, Lawrence, there's gonna be on at 11. 45.
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Go subscribe to put the link in the chat.
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I've also put out the Jalen subs video for you guys to check out would be, you know, chasing ah bunch of these prospects.
01:10:07
And again, this is not me saying it next time.
01:10:10
I'm not saying that he's just me following these interesting processes that this draft is very it is very stack.
01:10:16
So these guys are very interesting.
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Very interesting teams.
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Um, so check out the jail sucks video.
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I'll be doing more of that front stoop.
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Please go subscribe to the front stew.
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He's coming on.
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Next on.
01:10:28
Do you could definitely hear the beat that I wanted to steal from Evergreen.
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Um, hold on.
01:10:32
Do you want to take this one call before you leave? Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
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Let's see if see if I should be able to be o K.
01:10:41
Hey, what's what you doing, man? Who's this? That's right.
01:10:47
Hey, what's up, bro? How you doing? I'm good.
01:10:50
Who's this? All right.
01:10:56
Whoa e don't know.
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I don't know what that was about, but it was fun.
01:11:05
Uh, I'm gonna let him go because I know you want to get to the front stoop So guys, please head over to the front stoop.
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Alright? Alright.
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If this guy doesn't work, it doesn't work.
01:11:15
Hey, what's up Bolton The concept.
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I know.
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Who's this? What's your name? All right.
01:11:29
I don't know These guys doing alright, so e Alright, man E Tony Crow waiting for me.
01:11:38
So All right.
01:11:39
E Appreciate you, man.
01:11:43
Uh, tomorrow night, tomorrow night, right? Because slaves window we missed her tomorrow night, right? Yes, tomorrow.
01:11:48
And also find out I'll be covering a game.
01:11:50
So you'll be doing after game right after I was going to do the game to I was I was thinking maybe we could link we could link together.
01:11:59
Oh, yeah, sure.
01:12:00
I'm down for that.
01:12:01
Right? Like like we can I know we can find a way to do it.
01:12:05
All right.
01:12:06
Uh ah dammit! Alright, I might be because I have to talk.
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Thio, I'll be able to use a laptop so I know how to do o.
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B.
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S now, unfortunately, can't do it on my Mac because I can't do the browser source for the chat.
01:12:21
But But what? What we could do is like, you just send me the link that you have for stream yard and then I could jump.
01:12:29
I can I can I have another camera so I could get on with that camera with this link, and then I still be able to show it on my computer.
01:12:35
And you could still show it on yours to the same what you're doing Alright. Definitely.
01:12:40
So Friday.
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Um, yeah.
01:12:43
Let me change the title.
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Then I'll definitely change title and put that out there.
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So everybody knows that Cem and I are doing a joint, uh, Nick's Dunbar.
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That's I bet this wrong Cleveland.
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Uh, Cicero.
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Including, by the way. So definitely.
01:12:56
Yeah. Be here for Friday.
01:12:57
We'll be covering this next preseason game Friday starting, I believe.
01:13:01
Seven o'clock.
01:13:02
So yeah, game starts at seven.
01:13:05
Jump on it like 6.
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30 or something. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
01:13:08
All right, man.
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Alright, He's ready.
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Everybody Peace.
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God bless. Miss you guys.
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Yeah, e I'm gonna let you.
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I'm gonna let you go first because it seems like E could go on about going for years about this guy.
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E Just kill him, man.
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I don't even know what to say.
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I don't even know what to say about James Harden right now, you know? Listen, he's his own agent.
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Right then.
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I thought I read that he didn't have an agent, that he was his own agent.
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Hey, has Ah, it says Diana Day.
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Well, hold on, hold.
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Okay, So this and Forbes, this was all right.
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They're not I don't know how big this is, but yeah, it says are the Diana Day is the agent or Yeah, okay.
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I don't All right.
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Maybe maybe he does that.
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He was represented by his mother at one point, I guess.
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Yeah, these guys all over holding eso.
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Three years ago, he was represented by Rob Pelinka until Rob Pelinka became the GM.
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And then he said, Yeah, yeah, you're right.
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So he said I wouldn't call my agent hard instead of his mother's role.
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She somebody that helps me out.
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Obviously its work blah, blah, blah.
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And then this three years ago.
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I don't e I don't I don't know.
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I don't know his mom.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I don't know what's up with him.
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He's, um Is James Harden.
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I guess he's trying.
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He's trying to make power plays, right? Like if he was LeBron James or something.
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LeBron Yeah, that's a trip.
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LeBron James at least has one ship.
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One right? Hard it like I'm sorry.
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I'm gonna cut you up.
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I mean, I just like like, like people like these type of guys.
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Give me a pistol, please continue.
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James Harden? Yeah.
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I mean, I feel like that's what he's doing, right? He's trying to be trying to make power players like LeBron James and do what LeBron LeBron James has done.
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Uh, LeBron James at least has, you know, like what LeBron James does or has done or what? Or not.
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You know, he has a structure on infrastructure behind him, So it's not just him.
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James Harden And And listen, if LeBron James was making a power play, if he's supposed to be wherever you know to show up for camp, he's not gonna be in Atlanta at a party with little baby right here.
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he's gonna handle his business in a in a different kind of a way.
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James Harden is he's making it bad for himself, I think.
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Right, Because people are not gonna look at him and say, Yeah, all right.
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You're talented, but you haven't won a championship, and we don't want to deal with you because, look, he had Who's Who's the point guard before? Chris Paul? Uh, Houston, Uh, was it wasn't Jeremy Lin, was it? He left already.
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Um, Houston Rockets roster.
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Then what? 7 18? Well, I mean, you know what? He's on his third star guard.
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It's sort of like that.
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You've got Chris Paul, was it? It's a Aaron Jackson.
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Dimitris Jackson.
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Chris Paul Kehoe.
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Give me to say I'm gonna just go to the last previous season, the point guard was there. Taylor.
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James.
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I guess James Harden was a point guard.
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They have Patrick Beverley there.
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They Patrick Yeah, eso.
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I mean, like, he's on his third star guard, I guess if you want to call them, right, Um, Chris Paul Russell Westbrook.
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And that was John Wall.
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Okay, Now you know, people can say all this stuff about Harden couldn't play with those guys or whatever, but the one.
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The one common denominator with all of those.
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Well, we don't know.
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John Wall is leaving, but with Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook going elsewhere is James Harden, right? And so we'll see if I'm Houston.
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They got a new head coach, right? Yeah.
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I just be like, Listen, don't even come back.
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We're gonna find we're gonna get you out of here.
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I wouldn't I wouldn't cave.
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Hey, doesn't have a no trade clause, does he? E? Yeah.
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If he doesn't have a no trade clause.
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E If I'm Houston, I'd move him to where I'm going to move him to without worry about his trade clause or anything like that, you know, are without worrying about where he wants to go.
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I just move him.
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So wherever I think, I need to move on and get the best all perform and then let him do what he does.
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That's what I would do if I was the If I was the Houston Rockets and just start over because right now I don't understand what the Houston Rockets are doing anyway.
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But, you know, it was to me the whole John Wall thing was stupid.
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I know they got a draft pick out of it, but it was still stupid, right? You know, especially if James Harden is gone.
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Now you're stuck with John Wall in his contract.
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That was to me, just the dumbest thing ever.
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It just didn't make any sense whatsoever for a guy coming back from what was it? It was it Achilles e out? Yeah.
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And Achilles fell down the steps in this house.
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I don't know why you felt like why you feel.
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Because knowing him, he allegedly had some issues or rumor taps, um, issues.
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So you put that out in Houston, which is not better, because, you know, D c Rose Bar and you know, you know, So you you got in Houston, which probably has probably in the even stronger seeing party scene equally.
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Maybe because all the rappers out there athletes up, um, you know, and the thing about harder, man, I'm just gonna say this man, these guys, I not to say I never root for anybody.
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You know, their careers, phone out anything like that, right? But humility is a mother man.
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Life will humble you because no one is immortal in the sports world, right hard.
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And today it's Katie at one point, was really best play in the NBA, right? And not to say he's not gonna come back strong next year, but that Achilles basically wiped his dominance.
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Not from everybody to see basketball fans in our radios, but basically from that.
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You know that or of like, Oh, my gosh, this guy's invincible, right? You know James Harden again.
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He's what? He's probably 30 31 or he's getting.
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He's up there, right? And it's like, You know, you're not gonna be able to be James Harden forever, right? So when you start to burn Bridges and the rest of the notices once James Harden is no longer James Harden right that those 50,000,020 million, whatever the cops, they're not gonna be coming in like that like it's just you gotta be humble if you wanna leave.
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Say, Hey, look, I don't wanna be anymore Rejected contract.
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I'm gonna sit out for respected a team.
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Hope you guys can work out something.
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I'm all ears, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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You know, there's a way you could go about being professional with those type of things.
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And given that it's a player's league, right? But James Harden, you're hurting yourself because, okay, now there's no say you don't play for party or something like that, right? You're also hurting the league because again like you talked about, it's a business and the networks going to clip that c b A.
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They want to take that C b A and turn it.
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And they want to take back that money because they're not they They've been losing money.
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So you gotta be up these big contracts at $50 million contract.
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I don't know what is the next to be a 2023 23 24 the next CB A.
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Yeah, something like that, you know, And I'm not saying it's not going to get a big kind of just you make is gonna look very different.
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So I would just tell.
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Yeah, he just has to be very careful how he goes about things because you don't wanna mess with your money.
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I'm just saying now, you you're popular.
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Whatever, but one bad injury.
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Yeah, I mean, one loss of skill.
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11 turn of the referee's actually calling to travel on you with that Bs BS Stop! Drop that crappy doesn't like ****. Move down.
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You could definitely You could just turn into another player.
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So I'm just saying he has to be humble, man.
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I don't wish for anything that happened to him, but, you know, But again, I blame the owners, man, because you had Chris Paul there.
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I think that you should have tried to find a way we're built to build Chris Paul.
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You had Mike D'Antoni.
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I'm not the biggest fan off, but he basically couldn't coach.
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And then, Yeah, Daryl Morey.
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And then this whole Hey, let's not have a center or Rim Protective E.
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You basically allowed the team to become James Harden's two K fantasy on What the hell is James? Hard to know about winning.
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Let's see.
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What is James Harden? Know anything about what? Not to say that the coach is always right.
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But these players, they sit there, they get coaches fired, they get players move that could have been instrumental to the team.
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And then they blame it on the team and say, Oh, yeah, they didn't put enough help around you.
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I didn't have the right coach and I'm like And he Yeah, he like Paul George.
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Like I'm sorry.
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Like bump a Paul George.
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Now you got you went from Doc Rivers Saved about Doc Rivers, right? You may not be able to make adjustments, but Doc Rivers, Tyronn Lue I don't care what no one says And Doc Rivers won a championship, Tyra 112 But doctor was one more.
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So I would say relative Tyronn Lue off of his coach and offer his out of balance plays out of the great picks that they a lot of set with Leon Poole and Kendrick Perkins.
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Uh, Kevin guard net.
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How to utilize him to set picks for Ray Allen.
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Uh, that was a lot of it was also coaching. And they have talent.
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Yes, but Tyronn Lue wrote a bandwagon.
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So there's no accountability with these players in, you know? I mean, and it is only hurting them.
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The networks are seeing this, they say, Oh, you guys wanna play? You guys wanna rest Probably more than you probably need to, or you wanna pull the shenanigans? Okay.
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When the next debate comes up, you see, with these big contracts, go so and yeah, when when that next CB a comes up, trust me, they're gonna remember this stuff because the thing and it's not about, you know James Harden saying he wants to play for someone else or this is about trying to embarrass the organization.
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Yeah, playing a simple right.
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If you wanna play someplace else, fine.
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You should be able to dictate your career where you want to go and and all of that, Right? But you gotta do it professionally.
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Don't try to embarrass the organization.
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Because if you try to embarrass my organization, then I'm gonna say, Okay, I'm gonna remember that, but bottom line And when I get my chance, Thio get my get back so I'll probably get my get backs or take it out in the C B A.
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That's my good backs.
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I'm just, uh my conspiracy to remind I'll say this thes teams can be very vicious because I'm not saying and again I'm not sticking up his guys guys a piece of crap.
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But Antonio Brown, a soon as he pulled all that stuff with the Raiders, all that news about all the stuff he was doing with this woman and this woman all that stuff came out.
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Now, I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
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Whatever.
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I'm just saying that it seemed fairly could convene because the Raiders will call my okay.
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You want to screw us over? All right.
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And then Ben, So I'm just saying it could be that I'm not saying this 100% true, but you gotta be very careful when you're messing with billion.
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Because remember, these guys air, These owners are billionaires, and they don't like being embarrassed.
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They don't like losing money.
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They don't like being put in a bind where they can't recall money properly.
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Like if you told you guys say I wanna be trained by Bob, they could set up something, right, gm the front office because somebody when you do it when you pulled these shenanigans because also the networks are looking at was a fatigue for business.
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Fertitta, the owner of the rockets.
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You looking at me like, Oh, this is your mess, right? So again, the Houston Rockets that is gonna be left in a bind.
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So I'm just saying, Pardon.
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You're going around again.
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You being in these clubs or whatever.
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When you know Kobe protocols, whatever or pandemic protocols and stuff.
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Gotta be very careful, because these owners, they're gonna have they're gonna have spies around and make sure hey, get as much during this guy to screw him over.
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If he's gonna screw us over, we're gonna screw him over.
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So you gotta be very careful.
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Now, let me ask you this.
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What teams? Uh, do you think could be in the running from? Obviously, they mentioned 70 sixers.
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Katie came out today.
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He said, Oh, James, don't.
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Why are we talking about? He's not on my team.
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Even though, you know, James, uh, Kevin Durant would love to play with his Another friend of his thes freaking clouds.
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So what team would fit him? What team you think could bring him on and feel comfortable winning a championship? Know how material and destructive this idiot is? I don't see it working in Philadelphia.
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I feel like they got too much going on there as it is.
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So I I don't think it would be a good I just don't see it going Well, I don't see it going well in Brooklyn either.
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You know, I feel like especially having a new look.
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You got Mike D'Antoni.
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Um, Steve Nash is a new coach.
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Yeah, I mean, they're trying to They already got basically que de coming in.
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Brand new when you think about it, right? Even though he was with the organization last season, he didn't play, you know, you got Kyrie and all of his stuff, and then you bring in James Harden coming in off of this.
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I think it would be too much.
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It would be explosive.
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I just don't see where it would work. There.
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Now, now, think about this 76.
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We talked about this all the time, right? If they're trying to get rid of because, remember, they're in a bind with two.
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They're talented players and and beat.
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And Simmons, Won't this be Ah, good time to try to unload the guy that you think should be pushed on.
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Like, honestly, I got Christian with it and beating Christian would Come on. We're not really.
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Come on.
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Um you know, could you see them? Like if Houston is dumb enough to bring on John Wall and you're trying to unload a guy like saying beat who? Talented player.
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But, you know, I would say it's a dinosaur, but Obviously, he's in that mode of, you know, old school center.
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Obviously, his body is just fragile.
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He can't really work out.
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And, you know, he's had issues with, you know, waiting conditioning before.
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Do you try to pull that move to get and beat off of the 76 bring on the material guy like hardened? Who can, you know, probably played very well next to a best.
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Uh, I mean, he wants to play with ball.
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He could play.
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What would Ben Simmons or you pushed Ben Simmons known that Ben Simmons don't wanna probably be there because he wants to make his way to the legs anyway, on Do you have a two man game? Will harden and be hard.
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Don't get that ring.
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Protect that guy could run a pick and roll guy.
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You could just dump it down to the post and he could kill from the outside.
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It don't work basketball wise hard on the 70 Sixers now Daryl Morey has come out and said, you know, for all it's worth that he's not trying to move either one of these two young guys.
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You believe him? No, because their salary hell, basically e.
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I don't I don't believe him at all.
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But that's what he said.
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So maybe that's just a play, you know, in negotiating with Houston, right? You know, I mean, well, I guess if you're the 70 Sixers, you probably can't.
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You probably have no choice.
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If the deal is on the table for James Harden and you have one of those guys and you could make a deal, you probably had no choice but to go ahead and say, Let's give it a go, Right.
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You know, I mean, now.
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Yeah.
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If you're moving someone like, Oh, jeez, which one would I move when I move? Ben Simmons? Or would I move Joel be If I'm the Sixers, I would look to move Joe L and B.
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Not Ben Simmons.
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Although Ben Simmons maybe going to L A in a in a couple of years, when his contract is up anyway.
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Yeah, that's what I believe.
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You don't think he's gonna be looking to go to L. A.
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Um So then, uh, but I wouldn't wanna put all of our horses on and be because he's injury prone.
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So if I'm trying to make a move, I guess because Ben Simmons is a guard.
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Maybe I would go ahead, move Ben Simmons.
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Uh, you know, in the trade for James Harden bringing James Harden now you got a dynamic guard dynamic center on.
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Then you can feel it.
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You still, you know, who knows what else would go in a trade for James Harden.
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It sounds like the Houston Rockets say that they wanna have, You know, they want young pieces.
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They want draft picks.
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Um, I don't know what Philadelphia looks like.
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A Sfar, as draft picks are concerned and young players on rookie contracts, I think that's what I read that Houston wants.
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If that's if they could get them, they almost don't have a choice.
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You know, if they're trying to compete for a championship, you know, if you're younger team that is not really competing for a championship, you could probably say now this isn't the time for us.
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We don't want to deal with it.
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We'll stick with what we got, especially if you're a young team that's already competing in the playoffs.
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Um, e don't know, man.
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I don't know.
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James Harden might.
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He might end up just being stuck in Houston I can't see where his place style fits anywhere in the n B A right now for Riel.
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I just don't know because he is.
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There's a lot of guys in the N B A that have played one on one.
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He's almost the ultimate one on one player.
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E.
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I hate this game, just the ultimate one on one player, he said.
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I read Where did I read it? I don't remember.
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But he said that he wants to play a style with e.
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Don't know.
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These guys get me so e Like what? Like Why do these e feel bad for the coaches? Man e feel bad for these coaches, man.
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They've probably been, ah, lot of good coaches out there who had really good ideas, but somehow they were stuck with a freaking change.
00:18:46
Harder type of player at Westbrook type of play won't buy in, and then you're stuck because, like hey, coach or owner, I'm trying to teach these guys gm.
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I'm trying to teach these guys.
00:18:55
That's Adana like, yeah, just do whatever what's her name says.
00:18:59
And if you don't want a championship, then all the then you get blamed for everything even though you could not coach the team.
00:19:04
So what you want to coach? I still remember David Black people lie about, say, David was just remember, I think the Cavaliers had the best record on the East.
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That your e remember what e I think they had? They had the best defense that year.
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I think they had.
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I think they did have the best defense.
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They had the best record in the East because David Blatt was.
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Did you get fired after the All Star game of before the All Star Game? I would forget.
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I think it was before you came in.
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Tyrone came in.
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Let me see if glad, because he was supposed to coach.
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He either coached or was supposed to coach the All Star team, the All Star team.
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It was fired before he was by five before in January.
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Before James.
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OK, eso Ty Lue coach.
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The All Star team? Uh huh.
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See how ridiculous that is? That's just ridiculous.
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It's not fair, man.
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It is not fair man like David Black and David Blatt was trying to make LeBron James.
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Ah, better player, he told LeBron James all the thing Ko Kobe told LeBron James because Kobe said the same thing.
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He said, Hey, LeBron, you can't run with these young guys like that and then expect to play on the other side, which is defense, right? Get your butt in the block.
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Right and post up. Facilitate.
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Move the ball around car Serbia Energy So you could play both sides of the ball right and be able to be an impact on both sides.
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And David Black, literally told, told him the same thing playing the block, which he did because he did play the block until Iguodala shut him down.
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And then, uh then he also told me to try to get him to play more off ball.
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I'm saying, How does that make you that make sure more deadly player Uh, I and now David Black David blacks an idiot like David Black.
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Maybe it's American thing, but you know, I wouldn't sit here and issuing David Black like that.
00:21:02
The guy can't coach. You know what he's doing.
00:21:05
But you know, when you're playing a game, you have to play this system, take the brunt of it when you lose on, get no credit rating, so right.
00:21:14
Unfortunately, David Black will be no longer coaching in the n b a elsewhere because of his health condition.
00:21:22
Right? So Susan David Blackman But these coaches man Lord Jesus, I feel bad for the man.
00:21:28
But let's get to some Nick newsman first and foremost your boy Mitchell Robinson, in his interview last night or yesterday, Uh, they were talking about and I might be paraphrasing here, but they were talking about Mitch Robinson and him shooting threes on Essentially, Tom Thibodeau said that, you know, is nicer for holding back for shooting threes, but we want to see him or at the foul line.
00:21:50
Right? Said something.
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Thio, let me let me get the still open.
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Nice, Uh, let me get Let me get the exact article on it.
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But essentially, it seems as if he wants Mitch Robinson to get to the foul line a lot.
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Mawr makes it make his bones at the free throw line.
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I think it's shooting 74%.
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Is it? Yeah, he's just pretty good from the line, man.
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Every 4% at about 2.
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4 to going forward to win five attempts.
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So yeah, so it's saying so.
00:22:21
According Thio Stefan Bondy of The New York Daily News, He said, We've seen the other lead guys who hysterically, historically been inside.
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Players move out to the perimeter, Thibodeau said via Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News.
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Usually start out with a corner three.
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If you get to a point where it's comfortable with free throws and extend out beyond that, so be it.
00:22:38
But that's something that you wanna work on.
00:22:39
But we also wanted to play to strengths and coming up whatever weaknesses he has.
00:22:43
I'm not gonna Then Mitch Robinson said, I'm not gonna come out launching threes.
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They're not gonna tell me to take it if I do that, Robinson said.
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This year, if I'm more come, uh, this year I'm more comfortable the way I've been shooting lately, So why not? I've just been working on it.
00:22:57
So if the shop presents itself, you know what are your thoughts on his comments? Both him, in a typical comments, e mean with Mitchell Robinson.
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I do agree.
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We don't want you just come out and start launching threes up, right, you know, for no reason or will in nearly all over the place.
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But we just want you to be confident enough to shoot the three when it's open, when it's not the three shooting the mid range.
00:23:23
I'm not even worried about threes.
00:23:25
Shoot the mid range when it's available and when it's open.
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If somebody drops off you because they think you're not gonna shoot it, shoot it.
00:23:32
I don't care if you miss it, just shoot it, right, Because eventually, even if you even if you shoot and miss it now, that person at least gonna say, Oh, he's gonna shoot it he might make it so they gotta play some sort of defense on it, right? They can't drop back off.
00:23:47
Drop off that much because you're going to shoot the basketball.
00:23:51
Um, as's faras Tom Thibodeau.
00:23:54
I do like him saying, and I think all cultures should kind of take this approach.
00:24:01
We're gonna focus on what you do well and let you do what you do well, but we'll slowly try to bring you along in those other areas, right? Because I feel like like, let's look at Denis Smith Jr last year, all right.
00:24:16
I think I feel like part of his problem last year to was he was trying to learn how to be a facilitator, right? Because there was all this, all this talk, always about it.
00:24:27
You know, there's an athlete, he's not a facilitator.
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And he's learned how to be a facilitator.
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This and that.
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And I agree.
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If he wants to be, ah, point guard in the n b a.
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And then you know, you gotta learn how to do some of that, at least right? But if you're forcing it and pushing it too much, then you forget about your other strength and you don't go to your other strengths at all.
00:24:50
And now where you know you're stuck with, Ah, guy that was averaging 50 14 points a game, averaging five points a game because he doesn't know what to do, right? And of course, that's not the only reasons I'm just using that as an example, right.
00:25:03
So I think it's smart to say, Listen, we're gonna let you do what you do, and then we're gonna try to bring you along with some of these other areas, right? So you start this season off.
00:25:12
Mitchell Robinson is catching lobs.
00:25:13
He's getting put back and stuff like that, and then you know he's comfortable in the season.
00:25:18
Maybe you played 10 15 games and he said, You know what? Listen, I'm going to challenge you, to shoot, to jump shots a game.
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You know? What I'm saying is, you know, now that he's comfortable already doing something, and then you bring them along that way.
00:25:31
I feel like if you start to force somebody, and that's the thing that's always on their mind except for defense except for defense, right? Like if someone doesn't play defense, then you gotta constantly like, Yo, this has to be This has to be in the front of your mind.
00:25:45
But when you're talking about offensive things and you're trying to bring somebody into doing something new, that maybe that happened done before, you can't just put him out there and tell them to go do it right you got I think you gotta bring it along slowly, you know? So I think it's it's smart.
00:26:01
It's a good idea.
00:26:02
I just want to see it, though.
00:26:04
You can't go too slow because even Tom Thibodeau brought this up in one of his interviews.
00:26:08
He was he wasn't talking about Mitchell Robinson.
00:26:10
He was talking about the development of the team.
00:26:13
He was like, You know, you want the team to develop, but at some point, you gotta move forward and get better, right? So you know, you can't be developing for too long, and so it's the same thing, right? Yeah, we want him to develop, develop in certain areas.
00:26:26
But at some point, you got to say, Listen, let the ball go shoot it.
00:26:30
Yeah, I think Tom Thibodeau, because So here's what.
00:26:35
Obviously, Tom Thibodeau with Chicago.
00:26:37
Um you know, according to people breakdown, he ran the triangle about 25% of time.
00:26:41
Right, Andi, obviously, on the strong side, the corner guy, there's gonna be opportunities to hit the three.
00:26:47
Obviously, triangle changes a lot, but usually Tom Thibodeau use the big guy in the post or on that pitch post position, right? Right near the elbow where Joakim Noah made his bones about what I took from what Tom Thibodeau set was Hey, you know, I'm not, you know, basically, yeah, the three is there, you know we want you, but we want you when you talk about extended it out.
00:27:07
Right? Mr.
00:27:08
Robson also has to be able to hit that little foul on show that little mid range shot because he's not even showing really a semblance of that.
00:27:14
He's not even showing really any ability, right? You know we can't jump to you even though, yes, the three point shot can be easier than you know, actual dribble drive, mid range shots.
00:27:23
But let's work on something a bit more fundamental because just having you space out outside and just Jack a bunch of shots doesn't flow within a game plan.
00:27:32
Which Tom Thibodeau, I think is gonna have his name because he said it knocks.
00:27:35
And these guys have alluded that Abra learning his system blah, blah, you know, 111 said that he does call that I think will work for Knox.
00:27:44
Um, if you recall from how the wolves ran right, they played thing called horns, right.
00:27:51
We're basically the point guards at the top of the key.
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And then you have two big men, like they had dang dang and then cat, uh, play at the two elbow spots.
00:28:01
Right now, the one cuts to the basket that is basically like those guys like a like a dynamic playwright.
00:28:05
The point guard, Use the pick and roll 12 guys and one of the one of those foreign guys would pop out right for the, uh, 23 point line, one that would cut down to the basket one my state if the point guard could beat this man like it cause a lot of confusion.
00:28:19
But Mr Robinson will be random.
00:28:20
Gonna get a lot of opportunities.
00:28:22
Um, at those horns.
00:28:24
Now, obviously, Mr Robinson's mostly gonna be the guy that cuts to the basket once the point guard decision just cause he's so tall and anything with a delayed screen delayed pick and rolls about.
00:28:34
I mean, Mr Robinson is shown to be stronger.
00:28:35
That Thibodeau said, Hey, we're gonna work to strength.
00:28:38
So obviously, if he runs those horn plays, you know, that's probably be to go to, But, you know, if you watch Cat Cat many times, got a lot of opportunities in that set where he popped out, they passed the cat because now that we kind of went with the play and cat has the opportunity to shoot.
00:28:54
So Miss Robbins gonna get those opportunities on the triangle.
00:28:57
I think it's kind of hard cause they're not.
00:28:58
I don't think they were playing in a corner.
00:28:59
Probably use a guard who can actually hit those shots and move around.
00:29:03
But Mr Robinson, he's gonna have opportunity to hit those those threes.
00:29:06
Or that you know that to our people.
00:29:08
Call the long two, which is, I guess, the most useful shot in basketball.
00:29:12
But it is e shot.
00:29:13
You could make a shot.
00:29:14
So, um so, yeah, he's going to get the opportunity again with me.
00:29:18
And this is why I didn't like those videos because he's like Mitch work on nothing.
00:29:23
You mentioned it to work.
00:29:24
Give me to at least two moves around the basket that could get you there.
00:29:29
Just give me that.
00:29:30
I don't care about the three nights do Bama.
00:29:32
The bio does not shoot threes like that bit about the Bible.
00:29:35
Makes his bones at the mid range.
00:29:36
I guess the long to whatever you wanna call it.
00:29:38
And right now, the basket hooks, floaters, all that stuff, the little foul line shot.
00:29:43
He makes his bones there, and that offense is a lot more point because he can space out the floor not from the perimeter but in the mid range where he's just not clogging the lane.
00:29:51
Mitch, all this shop got chimps.
00:29:53
That's cute.
00:29:54
And that's why I talk about with these thes thes trainers that get they're getting.
00:29:58
And this could go to go to the Knicks, right? The lack of development and guidance that we have in the past few years if I was fizzle or any coach in the past.
00:30:04
I'm telling you, I'm writing out game plans.
00:30:07
Hey, we're gonna get you this, Coach.
00:30:09
We're gonna get you this guy because we need to work on this, Bob, we're gonna give you a blueprint.
00:30:12
Please work in this.
00:30:13
Now, If you don't do that, then it could be like, all right, this guy's not professional, He's not working.
00:30:16
And I do agree that Mitch Robinson, the whole team USA thing, they're probably some unprofessionalism there.
00:30:20
But then again, because people kill me, Say, I just killed a young kids.
00:30:23
I'm not killing young kids.
00:30:24
I'm just saying that you can't depend these coaches because it makes no sense for me to be watching Mitch Robinson D j work on all these things, not deejay per se.
00:30:32
But Mitch Robinson, especially working all these things.
00:30:34
I'm not gonna do anything he doesn't.
00:30:35
He doesn't do the things he was working because he did his last summer comes in this past season, doesn't do any of that.
00:30:41
What five shots the whole season goes back to some.
00:30:43
He's doing the same thing again, even though I believe Woodson came down south or whatever help you know to shoot the shot.
00:30:49
But again, Mitch, I want to see you work with someone who could develop your post or your front to the basket.
00:30:54
Skills were literally want to dribble you.
00:30:56
Plant that left that left foot spin boom at the basket.
00:31:00
You get to the line, you'll be up the top of the top centers in the league to shoot the most free throws, I think is like where you go.
00:31:06
Bear Cat and E.
00:31:11
Mr Wilson might be Yokich on the average in like 66 or 55 or six attempts a game.
00:31:17
This is only averaging about 2.
00:31:18
4, and I think about what Mitch is.
00:31:21
Like many other fundamentals of work on Mitch, you play 22 minutes tonight.
00:31:25
You average nine and seven.
00:31:26
If you were able to be out there.
00:31:27
The same number of minutes of Gobert who averages were 35 36 minutes tonight.
00:31:32
That nine and seven, literally without any offensive development, turns into what, a 13, 14 and 10.
00:31:40
So we fundamental defense.
00:31:42
She's working on fundamentals on offense to give me one or two moves.
00:31:44
The three point stuff.
00:31:46
You don't need that.
00:31:48
Not if you don't want it.
00:31:49
If you could develop, that's fine.
00:31:50
But you have other things on your list you need to work on to make you an actual MBA player.
00:31:55
Yeah, and I wanted to go back to what you were saying about the post op.
00:32:02
Sorry, Listen, Hey, May not.
00:32:05
He may not ever be a post up player, but working on those post up moves it's not.
00:32:12
It's not just working on moves.
00:32:13
Is developing your footwork, right? And you know, footwork is the most important.
00:32:18
That's the most important thing in the N B.
00:32:19
A game, right? Footwork, footwork, offensively, footwork defensively, right? And so when you work on those post moves, you use those.
00:32:28
You use those footwork techniques everywhere on the court, offensively and defensively.
00:32:35
You know what I mean? And when I watch him when we see all these clips of him playing basketball with the Y M C A.
00:32:43
Guys, not once do you see him posting one of those guys up or just working on footwork.
00:32:50
They're doing drop steps to the basket or doing anything like that.
00:32:53
But that post up footwork really does translate to the rest of the basketball court.
00:32:57
And that's one of the reasons why I always have concerns.
00:33:00
I don't I can't say what he's doing when he's not on video, right? But some of those things is what continuously has been concerned about Mitch.
00:33:10
We'll put like this guy because people were killing us like, Oh, you don't know what he's doing Off the off the put like this, guys, it ain't showing up in the game S o.
00:33:19
All that stuff about.
00:33:20
We don't know what he's doing, but like this, you spent two summers working on say he's working on this magical.
00:33:25
These magical footwork, drills, whatever.
00:33:27
What? It's not showing up on Andy.
00:33:29
Even if Mitchell Robson tried to a spin move and it failed, I would be like okay, Maybe he was trying to work on that.
00:33:35
Fair enough And the thing about this is why I get mad with some of these rookies that when you're on when you know you're on a team, that's bad.
00:33:41
The regime is bad and they're going to clear out.
00:33:42
The best thing I think you could do is take is to really take many chances with your game, right? And I'm not saying you go out there and say, Coach, I'm gonna do whatever I want.
00:33:52
But hey, Fiz L E Let me just work in this thing.
00:33:56
Maybe you might.
00:33:57
Frank Lucchino can't be this guy to the basket, right? You know what I do post up like Mark Jackson's do at the elbow post up like Jason Houston and try to say, Hey, Coach, maybe it's a different way where if I operate from the block right, maybe I could facilitate and get it to the guys.
00:34:09
Maybe on smaller guards.
00:34:10
I could, you know, you know, get to the basket, your files.
00:34:13
Can we just try for a few games since But oh, blah, blah, Yeah.
00:34:16
I mean, I'm just putting out there and physical to me, actually seemed like a guy who probably would have been down with that.
00:34:21
Been okay with that? Hey, saw that.
00:34:24
This guy has been working on his moves.
00:34:26
He's really trying to get bad to such a such Alright, let's try.
00:34:28
Let's let's see how it works, E.
00:34:29
I mean, and I'm sorry, guys.
00:34:31
I don't see with Mitch five shots all season, and every time he gets the ball, he's looking hot potato someone, someone take it If he's not, right? Yeah.
00:34:39
And you know, people people complain about Frank because he only took five shots a game.
00:34:43
I mean, Mitch only took five shots a game.
00:34:46
Yeah. Come on. This job.
00:34:48
Yeah.
00:34:49
No, no, no.
00:34:50
I'm saying no.
00:34:51
I mean, like, he was saying five shots like, um, I was surprised.
00:34:57
I looked.
00:34:58
I was like, Whoa, you know, Let's see how many shots became Mitch took.
00:35:00
I was surprised when I seen that he only took five shots per game.
00:35:04
And a part of that is because he doesn't pull that jump shot.
00:35:07
It's a jump shots the whole season.
00:35:10
Five jump shots the whole season.
00:35:12
Yeah, e five e five.
00:35:18
Just fine. Good.
00:35:21
But **** jump shots the entire season.
00:35:28
And I wonder how many times he was wide open from the top of the key free throw line area.
00:35:35
When defense is dropped back into the center of the paint, I don't know how many times he was wide open.
00:35:40
E remember one shot he had against the Hawks.
00:35:42
He made it, but it was like almost hot potato.
00:35:44
Like you got the bones E.
00:35:47
I was like, Wow, just slow everyone in.
00:35:48
But again, they're gonna he's gonna have open shots.
00:35:52
He's at least with, at least for Frank.
00:35:54
I'll say is about Frank, where you saw him be a little bit more aggressive.
00:35:57
Yes, he was missing some wide open threes. Whatever.
00:35:59
But you want him to You want him to take those shots to feel comfortable.
00:36:02
Mitch, again, I don't know what these trainers, whatever is telling you this and also this thing.
00:36:07
This is what tips says about professionalism.
00:36:09
Right messages means something If I'm allowing people to take videos of me joking around, okay, is after practice.
00:36:17
I'm joking around, but you're posting as if it's something substantive, right? When you know you come into practice or you come into the team and your fundamentals is still poor, right? That is That's what the professionals talking because other people think about.
00:36:31
You're not the only person on the team.
00:36:34
Veterans might come over.
00:36:35
Other people might come over and try to play with you.
00:36:38
And also, when you talk about Lena team or being that impact player, they need to be thin.
00:36:41
You for coming to say I trust Mitch Robinson to dump the ball off him? I trust this guy because I've seen him work hard.
00:36:48
He doesn't play around with his craft. He's not.
00:36:50
When these guys on Instagram and Twitter, you know, you know I respect them. So I'm a father.
00:36:54
Young, the younger A lot of veterans do that where they follow after some of these younger guys don't make a fuss in the locker room, they know Hey, R J.
00:37:00
Barrett.
00:37:01
Now that dude is That dude is a young That's a young bull right there, man. I'm a follower.
00:37:04
After I like his intensity saying that all these younger guys who killed out here, uh, guy I mean, why is not young but Donovan Mitchell? You tell me guys don't see Donovan Mitchell where he carries himself, but even how he plays the way he carries himself.
00:37:17
It is very important.
00:37:18
So when I see you got like Mitch, right? If the Knicks were a good team in the playoffs, right, you could literally not, so you could do whatever you want, But you have leeway to go.
00:37:26
Yeah, yeah, he's a god**** important.
00:37:29
Um, I get that Knox.
00:37:30
I'm just saying, you know, he's a guy who doesn't God, Shammgod, blah, blah.
00:37:32
But I know he's doing good because the Knicks got 50 wins.
00:37:35
But when you're when you're the worst team in the n b a.
00:37:39
You and you're not performing up to par, it doesn't look good for you.
00:37:46
Why Thibodeau? Thibodeau A look.
00:37:49
Thibodeau might want to develop some of these kids.
00:37:51
I'm not saying you won't, but Till did not bring all these veterans on this team for for no reason.
00:37:56
Hey, he Thibodeau is a system guy and in a good way, where he will fit the system that fits the best players in the team.
00:38:04
If Mitchell Robinson cannot beat out Nerlens Nerlens no Wells Nerlens Noel, if if Knox can't beat, I don't even know if we would have a three.
00:38:12
So you wanna play Berks at three.
00:38:13
But that can be hard because it's kind of like a 22 But if Knox doesn't impress at the three, Frank doesn't impress with the off guard position.
00:38:22
No, look, we were talking about this earlier with with Hebrew and raw Hebrew.
00:38:31
When you look at the teams that are going to do well, at least to begin this season is gonna be teams that have been together and have seasoned players, Right, Because it been off for nine months.
00:38:43
You got a short training camp, right? You got what, One week of training camp? For the most part, the teams that are going to perform well, we're gonna be teams that are familiar with one another.
00:38:55
And that had been together, right? So what do you think Tom Thibodeau is gonna dio? He's gonna play guys that know how to play the basketball game and can produce, at least from the beginning, you know, to try to get some resemblance of a team going, you know, now there's a bunch of guys that's been here since last season.
00:39:17
So, you know, don't be surprised if those guys are in the mix and they're gonna be in the mix because they make up more than half of the team.
00:39:23
You know, the r J.
00:39:27
Kevin Julius, Frank D s J.
00:39:30
Those guys, right, Mitch? You know, they've been here.
00:39:33
Reggie Bullock.
00:39:34
Um, you know, So he's probably gonna try.
00:39:37
I would think, try to rely on those guys for some sense of, um, continuity but mawr than not he's gonna want.
00:39:48
I think he's gonna wanna play guys that just know how to play the basketball game.
00:39:52
Naturally, Uh, especially from the beginning of the season, because it's such a short season.
00:40:00
Such a short training camp.
00:40:02
You know, you wanna put guy, you wanna try Thio? Even if you're not winning, you wanna try toe, start with something substances, you know, start with some substance and do something and establish something, you know? You know, one of the things that he was saying I was listening to his his interview today and and and one of the things he was talking about this and they kind of lose to raw Hebrew was saying, talking about why? Maybe he doesn't play rookies much.
00:40:36
And one of the things that he was talking about in his video in his interview is that you know when rookies come in, one of the things that rookies have to deal with this understanding one, the nuances of the game, but also understanding, like veterans have been here and play it against a certain guys four or five, you know, 343 or four times a year, right? So they know their tendencies.
00:41:04
Rookies don't know their tendencies.
00:41:06
They have no idea what these guys are gonna do coming in, you understand? And and so that's part of the reason raw Hebrew was saying is that that's part of the reason why he might not play rookies is much because these guys are not aware off the defense's.
00:41:25
They got to get used to the speed.
00:41:26
You heard Emmanuel quickly today say, you know, one of the biggest changes was the speed to the game, like he didn't expect NBA players to be that fast, and they're faster than they thought they were going to be right.
00:41:39
All of these things, air changes for guys coming into the league.
00:41:42
Yeah, I agree with you.
00:41:44
I was here yesterday and Lawrence here's to Florence says, Go, subscribe and I would really a man on the island fighting against these lunatics that we're trying to argue with me that okay, you have the veterans who because typical set himself, he said.
00:41:59
The veterans they under they understand the game.
00:42:03
They understand nuances and all those things a little bit quicker than ever been some of the younger guys, young guys.
00:42:07
Obviously, they benefit from the athleticism whatnot.
00:42:11
But if you bring in a guy like Berks who played with the Warriors who played with the 70 Sixers and was a piece on those teams piece, it's not to say that R.
00:42:21
J Barrett or not or Frank or stupid.
00:42:24
But we can't sit here and say, Okay, the Knicks didn't have, ah system play.
00:42:27
We didn't have proper development and then say they could get in a room with some of these veterans like Austin Rivers, who, yes, the Rockets, in terms of their system, was tried.
00:42:37
But saluting G four point this out.
00:42:39
They were running things, according to G, is fact that they were running stuff like the Spanish pick and roll, which is not a simple You have to pee Cerebos upto smart and running at a cerebral place to make it naturally effective, right? So a guy like Awesome Rivers who's been around play with the Clippers, play the Houston Rockets is coming into a room with Frank.
00:42:59
You're gonna stand and tell me because everybody loves all everybody loves Frank is like no one's dissing frank or knots, but they have mentally you could talk about.
00:43:08
Oh, they learn it.
00:43:09
And then when you're on the court, that's the same team.
00:43:11
Well, let me say Frank was here, Horn said.
00:43:14
Complain that these guys, they're not gonna run a triangle because it's like, Oh, it's too complex by.
00:43:17
But again, you have young kids and there's no guidance, no coaching, right? And yes, I'm blaming the coaching and the front office.
00:43:25
They didn't horrendous job with these next kids, right, But again, you get veterans into.
00:43:31
Right now, it's up to these young kids to get it quickly to understand, right? Here's my role in this spot, and maybe that's Hey, let's play some pickup games in the gym or, you know, let's do something after practice.
00:43:41
Let's try to run it, let me get, you know, intuitive.
00:43:43
But Thibodeau is not going to sit here and wait for these guys weights 567 years to see if there's something in.
00:43:50
Not to see if something in Frank Frank's a free agent next year.
00:43:54
Yeah, I mean, and even, you know R J.
00:43:56
Barrett, who I like if they find a option but more dynamic.
00:43:59
R. J. Barrett.
00:44:00
Yeah.
00:44:01
I mean, not to say they they're looking to do that, but I just feel like Thibodeau's on a different.
00:44:05
I think the front office on a different train was like, Hey, you know, there's no more lollygagging.
00:44:09
We're gonna get veterans to build the system for the first maybe two years And then, you know, look, we're looking at the draft, looking at veterans to bring in.
00:44:16
We are trying to build this team and develop them rather quickly.
00:44:19
There's gonna be instruction.
00:44:20
Got Bryant.
00:44:21
You got Kenny pain you got you know, Leon Rose and World Wide West making moves in the front office.
00:44:27
Guys gotta hurry up, man again.
00:44:29
People kill me and say, I'm harshing the kids.
00:44:31
The NBA doesn't care.
00:44:33
It's brutal.
00:44:35
And look, when you look at the guys that they brought in compared to the guys that they brought in last year, people can look and say, Well, you know, they kind of did the same thing as last year.
00:44:44
They did, But I think they were smarter about doing it.
00:44:47
Because when you look at Austin Rivers, how many years has been in the playoffs? He's been in the playoffs a bunch of years, right? Berks? He just came from Philadelphia who was in the playoffs last season, Right? Nerlens Noel.
00:45:01
He just came from okay.
00:45:02
See, They were in the playoffs the last two years when he was on the team.
00:45:06
So they brought in guys who came from playoff teams.
00:45:08
Now look at last year, right? Bobby Portis? He didn't come from a playoff team.
00:45:14
Nope.
00:45:15
Right now Alfred Peyton didn't come from a playoff team.
00:45:17
No, Reggie.
00:45:20
Well, they, uh, place they went.
00:45:25
They went in the playoffs, right? Uh, Mark Morris.
00:45:29
Marcus Morris was the only guy that was in the playoffs.
00:45:33
The Onley guy that was in the playoffs that they brought in last season because the other guy, Wayne Ellington, he wasn't in the playoffs.
00:45:43
There is a difference.
00:45:46
There's a difference because these guys air coming from winning.
00:45:48
They're coming from being contributors on winning teams.
00:45:53
Not just, you know, sitting at the end of the bench, every single one of them or contributors.
00:45:59
Alec Berks averaged 12 points a game with Philadelphia playoff team Nerlens.
00:46:04
Noel was, you know, backup center, who played significant minutes.
00:46:08
Austin Rivers, backup guard who played significant minutes.
00:46:13
I mean, you know, So you know these guys, they're gonna come in with some kind of expectations as well, you know, and feeling like, Yo, I'm coming from a playoff team to a team with a bunch of young guys that didn't make the playoffs.
00:46:26
I feel like I should be starting.
00:46:29
They may not say that in the media, but I would feel that way like, Yo, I can't.
00:46:35
I played a significant role on a playoff team.
00:46:37
You guys are bums.
00:46:38
You know what I'm saying? Like, why wouldn't you think that Austin Rivers, Alec, Berks and Nerlens Noel could come from playoff teams and come here and start? I had to fight with these guys.
00:46:53
I'm like, Do you think that would sign a three year? I mean, when you're guaranteed deal with the Knicks, the bum a Knicks Right now we're trashed, right? Who sit on the bench outright, Not even.
00:47:07
Hey, we're competing.
00:47:08
I'm just doing the best to watch.
00:47:11
Yeah, no Knick fans.
00:47:15
We are the most passionate.
00:47:16
I love the Knick fan base.
00:47:18
I love New York fan bases, for the most part, and I've been around the country where some of the most passionate inform people right there.
00:47:26
Other pockets, where is, like that's all they have in their very passionate but were the most passionate right? One thing that that passion does.
00:47:32
I think it makes his delusional right, because I asked this question yesterday, and it's not the issue on any of the young kids.
00:47:38
I ask these guys if you had a chance to redo it again, would you draft knocks? And those guys couldn't at first they like, and then they're like, Oh, yeah, I would draft.
00:47:48
I'm like So if you love not so much, you know what stuff you wouldn't you tell him? You say you wouldn't draft him out right? Given if you have the opportunity on what you know 2024 whatever, You wouldn't draft him again.
00:47:59
So again, guys, we have to be objective.
00:48:02
NBC's kids again.
00:48:03
These kids did not have coaching, but again, they're very fortunate guys who go their whole career.
00:48:08
I don't think Mitch No mistress.
00:48:09
She probably had when he's with Don Nelson, I think right running TMC.
00:48:14
But there guys in the NBA who put up numbers or could have put up numbers talented, who have never played with a good coach your whole career.
00:48:22
And that's just how the n b a goes.
00:48:24
You're not.
00:48:26
It's not a given that you'll be playing in a with a smart front office or with a good team, because you're gonna play your best years with a crappy team, get to your next contract, get a bad injury.
00:48:36
Now the only contract you have or you get is with some crappy team at the end of the bench.
00:48:41
Yeah, I mean, if you're healthy, and you could do something be as aggressive as you.
00:48:46
This is why I respect R. J.
00:48:48
Barrett, R.
00:48:49
J.
00:48:50
Barrett.
00:48:51
You could talk about his officials here at the at the club, which is poor.
00:48:52
You could talk about officially from the field, which was 40% 32% from three.
00:48:57
But you saw him be aggressive when he had that ankle injury.
00:49:00
Hired of shooting coach you saw splits.
00:49:02
Better splits from outside.
00:49:03
Obviously, it kind of regressed back to the mean.
00:49:05
But you saw him pushed Push, push the agency volition.
00:49:10
And, hey, I'm gonna try toe, make an impact, Right? So then when the whatever coaches there, but you apart, you compare them down and be like, Alright, RJ, when you do this, you gotta do this.
00:49:18
When you when you when you defend, you gotta defend with this thing.
00:49:22
You're leaning this way too much of Bob LA We could we could tone it down.
00:49:26
But some of these younger kids, man is doing that on and look, I didn't see last night.
00:49:36
But I can't understand why somebody would argue with you about Austin Rivers if you listen to Austin Rivers.
00:49:41
In his interview, he said, I've never been in.
00:49:43
I've never had this kind of a chance.
00:49:44
What chance do you guys think he's talking about? Every hey could say everything that he wants.
00:49:50
Everything he wants about, you know, doing what the coach says and what that kind of stuff.
00:49:55
You wanna know what chance he's talking about? He played behind Chris Paul.
00:49:58
He played behind Russell Westbrook and James Harden.
00:50:01
He never had a chance to be the one of the primary starting guards on the team.
00:50:07
That is what he's talking about when he says, I never had this chance.
00:50:10
Oh, he's never had that chance.
00:50:13
He thinks that he could come in.
00:50:15
He's 28 years old, 28 years old, is about the prime of your career.
00:50:19
I'm sure he thinks that he could come in and say, I could be one of your starting guards telling and his father kept saying, Hey, New York is a good place his father's looking at like, Look, you will not get starting play here and I don't want a position where I'm you have preference because you're my son and a weird conflict adventures of like, Oh, we gotta play because it is Doc Rivers, son, right? Versus you go to the Knicks and the competition so far ain't up there and let me say it nothing, because you brought up a good point, right? Tom Thibodeau brought in a lot of veterans who do things that he wants in a system.
00:50:57
Very well.
00:50:58
Look at the guards he's used with the Bulls guards who can shoot off the dribble guys like especially in the tribal looks.
00:51:06
Kirk Hinrich, Go watch this Highlights with, uh, Kim Noah and the travel said on the weak side, he have to.
00:51:14
Kim Noah get the ball passive.
00:51:16
Set the pickle hirings.
00:51:17
Guy hiring Schuster. Three.
00:51:19
Right? Same to Jimmy Butler, Right? He likes guards.
00:51:23
Aaron Brooks.
00:51:24
Guys who can create who can drive a little bit and score off the dribble.
00:51:29
Uh, Rivers does that.
00:51:31
Burt's does that right? They got a guy Mouse powers who did that.
00:51:34
And I'm not saying that mouse power is gonna be out.
00:51:36
Anybody could guy from seeing whole.
00:51:39
He did that very well at City Hall.
00:51:41
Thibodeau.
00:51:42
This is why I respect about Thibodeau and what we haven't had in a while.
00:51:44
He has a vision, and he's getting guys vision, right? And this interview.
00:51:50
It's interchangeable because obviously Phil Jackson got frank for the triangle, blah blah, But I think even the friend thing trying was kind of like a reach right? But this guy's getting guys like I mean, look, you could be in a trying You could be emotional, be whatever.
00:52:01
Don't you gotta shoot they could shoot so births can work in different types of, you know, I mean, like, the talent can be describe the different system.
00:52:08
But for Tom Thibodeau system, he's getting these guys.
00:52:10
So it's up to D.
00:52:11
J.
00:52:12
Was not a good shooter.
00:52:13
Is up to Franklin Lucchino, who is not a good shooter dribbling off the dribble, right? A guy like Knox as well to who's gonna have a lot of open, uh, corner threes.
00:52:23
He has to hit those shots.
00:52:24
And we talked about Knox, didn't have a didn't really playing a system similar to UK Bob.
00:52:28
A lot of guys are playing systems similar with the in college, but I did see and I'm not killing knocks all the way.
00:52:33
But I did see many times where Knox was missing open threes last year, where he would flare out and he was a secondary option.
00:52:38
But the ball got to him because the action on one side was stagnant and he would miss a lot of those shots when he flat out to the right wing or whatever.
00:52:45
Miss a lot of open shots, so they're gonna be put in a position, but they can't beat out veterans remember also members only getting three million and he plays good operation defense and he could hit the three and you get the shot better than Frank.
00:52:57
Frank has to beat that out.
00:52:58
That's 8.
00:52:59
8 points with 35% from three.
00:53:02
Tough of think three or four attempts up e okay, e saw mhm the other day when I did show.
00:53:18
Not yesterday, the day before.
00:53:20
Uh, the Knicks put out, you know, just some video, not video pictures of guys playing.
00:53:27
They have blue jerseys on white jerseys on Right, your blue jerseys was Alfred.
00:53:32
Peyton looked like Alec Berks, R J.
00:53:36
Barrett, Julius Randle and New Orleans? No.
00:53:38
Well, right now, I'm thinking, if Austin Rivers there, he might have been in that blue jersey over Alfa.
00:53:45
Peyton? Uh huh.
00:53:47
Maybe.
00:53:48
But also, Rivers isn't playing right now because of a groin injury.
00:53:53
I said he may not even playing a preseason game on Friday.
00:53:57
Um, and then the white jerseys.
00:54:00
Uh, there was Frank Lucchino, Kevin Knox, Obi Topping Mitchell Robinson and I didn't see who they had that point guard.
00:54:06
I'm assuming Dennis Smith Jr these may or may not be the squads that they go with.
00:54:13
Listen, you know, for the first preseason games, he'll go with the squad and then they might switch up.
00:54:18
You know, as he's looking, Thio put together lineups, lineups that he feels works.
00:54:23
Um, Austin Rivers is going to be in those lineups.
00:54:29
I could guarantee he's gonna be in those lines.
00:54:31
There's no doubt about it.
00:54:32
And I wouldn't be surprised to be started, you know? I mean, because with the style that they're gonna play as's faras You know, I don't think you've gotta have that quintessential point guard.
00:54:45
No, you can handle the rock.
00:54:47
He could.
00:54:48
You know, no one's gonna take the ball from him What I'm saying, so I don't think you gotta have that quintessential guy.
00:54:53
He had Kirk Hinrich that point guard before.
00:54:55
He wasn't their quintessential you know, crazy, stupid point guard, you know, grows was out.
00:55:01
So I mean, you know what I mean.
00:55:03
And Austin Rivers could be I mean, maybe can't shoot like Kirk Hinrich, you know? But that prototype of a guy, you know, So yeah, these guys, those three guys didn't come here to ride the bench.
00:55:16
I'm sorry.
00:55:17
Then they come here to ride the bench and, you know, you look at obviously R.
00:55:22
J.
00:55:23
Barrett would be the youngest guy.
00:55:24
But if you put out I lineup of Austin Rivers Alec Brooks, who could shoot it from three R J.
00:55:30
Barrett Julius Randle Nerlens Noel.
00:55:33
That's kind of a not kind of there's a veteran lineup.
00:55:37
I mean, the oldest guy in that lineup is 28 I guess.
00:55:40
Um, and then you have a young lineup, you know? Then you know, then then it's gonna become.
00:55:48
Then it's gonna become in that second line up.
00:55:51
There's a couple of guys that are gonna be left out is then it's like who's left out? Because, you know, if you have Dennis Smith Jr.
00:55:59
Frank Miller, Kina Kevin Knox, he's not gonna be left out.
00:56:02
Mitchell Robinson.
00:56:03
He's not gonna be left out.
00:56:05
Oh, be Topping.
00:56:06
He's not gonna be left out, E.
00:56:08
I mean, he could he could He could end up in the first line up at some point on then.
00:56:14
But then you got Reggie.
00:56:15
Reggie Bullock, You know, Does he Does he fit in in the second line up, or does he get into that first line up.
00:56:22
I think Brooks is a better shooter.
00:56:23
Reggie Bullock is probably a better defender.
00:56:26
Uh, real quick, because that's important, right? Who is gonna play the three if we start saying R.
00:56:33
J.
00:56:34
Barrett to have you put Argent three? Obviously, the two is birds, but you could play.
00:56:37
There's a lot right? And obviously, Berks, I believe this place from three in the past as well, too.
00:56:41
But do you Who do you play? Three.
00:56:44
Do you think Tip is gonna trust knocks to start the season? I don't think he's gonna.
00:56:50
I don't think he's going to start him.
00:56:52
I don't think he's starting.
00:56:53
I don't think Kevin Knox is starting.
00:56:55
Will he be in that second unit and 25 minutes a game? I think so.
00:57:00
But it's going to start there.
00:57:02
I don't think so.
00:57:03
Here's the only thing.
00:57:04
Here's the only thing.
00:57:05
What? When I watched when I rise, Reggie Bullock play that three last year.
00:57:11
Sometimes some of the three men he's 66 I guess.
00:57:15
But for some reason, some of those other three men look so much bigger than him.
00:57:19
When I was watching, I was like, What the heck right, so we don't have any.
00:57:25
The only person who is that size, but he doesn't have the strength and clearly doesn't have the defensive skill. He's not.
00:57:31
Well, it's far as we know.
00:57:33
Based on last season, he's not ready.
00:57:34
Thio take control of that position.
00:57:37
Is Kevin Knocks, the only one who has some of that size that you've seen some of these other three men with? That's why it's important that he, at some point takes that step forward because R.
00:57:47
J.
00:57:48
Barrett is not that size either.
00:57:50
This year, I think Look at the size of some of these three men.
00:57:53
This is what scares me about Knox and that he's such a confidence guy, right? You know, when the going gets tough and so it's a G Wiz Sak passe, not play, bro.
00:58:02
I'm so Sinopoli mother.
00:58:04
Uh, the thing I'm scared about with him is that he could be if he's in a game, say against.
00:58:13
I'm trying to think of a really dynamic three, just any good, dynamic three in the league and then lighting him up right? Does that dragged down his game to where now you can't really You can't really keep him at that position.
00:58:29
But you think you got a LA gym at four well being.
00:58:32
And Randall, Yeah, I mean the thing, what it's like for Knox, and I'm not trying to belittle him or infantilizing or something like that.
00:58:40
It's just that, you know, it's almost baby steps with him, right? Because he's just not a He plays too much to his emotions that if a guy's cross him over and he's going to file trouble. Yummy.
00:58:50
I could see him, you know, hanging his head down.
00:58:52
And it affects his offense and his focus in the game and that stuff in.
00:58:55
I'm not sure he has a because the threes will if, unless he's improved, his footwork and his reaction time, eyes defensive, anticipate anticipation that he's going to struggle against some dynamic threesome.
00:59:08
And, yeah, he's tips, tips will look at that and be like, All right, well, e tell you what, They've clearly been working with him.
00:59:19
I mean, from this is coming from them all summer long.
00:59:23
Uh, you know, so So we'll see what it is.
00:59:26
You know, Tom Thibodeau's and Tom Thibodeau? Not just time, Uh, and some other people said Listen, we've been I've been in his ear.
00:59:35
They're working with him all summer.
00:59:36
Kevin knocks that they've been working with him all summer.
00:59:39
Um, he had a lot of glowing things to say about about him when he when they asked him about him.
00:59:46
All right, um, so I think they're going to give him every single shot to be They're gonna I think they're gonna give him every single shot.
00:59:54
Maybe not in the starting lineup, but I think he's gonna play, you know, to his credit, I like the fact that he said he wants to start.
01:00:02
He's gotta prove he's got to go out there and do it and prove it.
01:00:05
Prove that, you know, he could be the starter, but hey, everyone else, everyone else, except for Mitchell Robinson, you know, with Mitchell Robinson were normal is no.
01:00:15
He was like, I'm sure he wants to start.
01:00:16
I want to start, so we're gonna be battling it out.
01:00:19
Right? Um I like it when a player is just honest.
01:00:22
Like that, though, like, yeah, I want to start.
01:00:25
You know, it doesn't mean if I don't start that I'm gonna be mad, but yeah, I want to start, because when I'm playing, I want to start and I want to finish.
01:00:34
You know, I'm saying and you know, I don't get mad if I don't start but, um, we'll see.
01:00:41
We'll see Because because the Knicks, there's there's just a whole at that three spot, there's a whole.
01:00:49
There's just a whole at that three spot and you know he's got the prototype, although I although I've always felt that he was what you know, I'm just confused, though, because I don't know how tall guys are anymore, right? E thought he came in illegal.
01:01:05
He was 69 Right now, he's 67 I thought Frank was 67 Now he's 64 so I don't know how tall guys are anymore, so I can't say who's what.
01:01:17
But when I thought he was 69 I was like, I think he's gonna end up being a four now.
01:01:23
It's a 67 so I don't know what because they are supposed to be 67 right? He's 66 I see he's listed at 66 e c them in Frank standing next to each other.
01:01:37
They looked the exact same height and Frank.
01:01:39
It's 64 so I don't know who what you had last year were like, Yo, man, yo, Frank is growing, man.
01:01:46
Frank is like 67 e like this year.
01:01:50
E Like what? You guys are you guys all trash saying that some of those things knocks the 69 yo stayed in New York and suits to stay in New York.
01:02:00
Podcast, man, go subscribe on iTunes.
01:02:02
Man on.
01:02:03
I just posted a link like 30 times.
01:02:05
So go subscribe to stay in New York podcast.
01:02:07
But now he's saying he's six not saying New York.
01:02:09
Noah's argue with you don't know.
01:02:11
We don't I don't know.
01:02:13
E don't really even care.
01:02:15
If not, look, if nice completed.
01:02:17
Three.
01:02:18
If you could give me now with not e always I'm not defense and is awareness right? I think the shooting is gonna come, but this is what I think about with Knox.
01:02:28
He's one of these confidence guys in one way to boost up your confidence.
01:02:32
If you could shut down another player right, if you have a guy who is who is basically he's ineffective against you and he's pressing right, he's like **** Knox's shutting down, man.
01:02:43
Yeah, I mean to me, as long as you're in the game like I've seen with Frank Alisa's rookie year, that gives you confidence.
01:02:51
That gives you cheap points, you know, I mean, even though Frank wasn't really shoot like that, even his rookie year.
01:02:55
But I think that he look, he just looked more confident floor.
01:02:57
If Knox has that, given that, you know he likes to shoot the three or he has the ability to shoot the three, I think that can open up his game.
01:03:05
So is up to him to take to the coaching again.
01:03:07
He said he's working on his postgame Andi talking about drills and stuff.
01:03:10
He said he talked about the postgame work where we'll be talking about supposed to game with.
01:03:14
I think tips is giving him instructions.
01:03:16
I'll give that to tip tips is like, Hey, do this such and such and such blase, blase, Blasi Um and symptoms like till this passive aggressive, I think, is like if he thinks that you are, I think like this, I don't take much from what you're saying.
01:03:29
But I think this is just my theory.
01:03:31
If you're at least trying to be a tentative and work hard at understanding what he's trying to parlay.
01:03:35
He's going to give you a nice thing.
01:03:37
He's gonna say blah, blah, blah.
01:03:39
But if you like Mitch who probably came in not saying Mitch was getting drunk and I'll give a **** it there's like, I know this dude.
01:03:46
I know what this dude is about.
01:03:48
Like, Hey, so how do you feel about Mitch? Well, no, no, Wall is right there.
01:03:52
We just got scholar right up.
01:03:57
Yeah, I mean, he did.
01:03:58
He did have some good words about it.
01:03:59
But even when you read in between some of the things he said about Mitch when he was speaking good about him, right, he was like, you know, Mitch, He was like, you know, the sky's the limit as to you know, where he could go.
01:04:12
And he talked about things he could do defensively.
01:04:15
And then he was like, but if he could dio, uh, you know, some of these if he could learn some of these fundamentals, Basically, I'm paraphrasing, But if you could learn some of these fundamentals and understand some of these nuances that he could really be you know, he could really be a great defender.
01:04:31
You know, he keeps harping back and going back to him like just the fundamentals that he needs to dio when he talks about Mitch.
01:04:38
When he talked about DS day today, right? Uh, he doing there about some conditioning, you know what I'm saying? He was like, he was like, Now, you know, they said that he was working on conditioning all summer with Abdul Raouf, but he was, like, the excellent about his jump shot, and he was like, you know, in order for him to, you know, he went into the whole thing, you know, about shooting and scoring and doing this.
01:05:05
He was like, But, you know, you gotta be in good shape to do this and that, and I'd like to see him continue to work on his conditioning so he can do whatever he needed to dio, you know? So he throws, he throws some things out there.
01:05:16
I think a lot of times in raw Hebrew was talking about this earlier.
01:05:20
You can hear a lot of what he says from what he doesn't say.
01:05:24
You know what I'm saying? Like they were asked him about Frank.
01:05:27
He was like, I like Frank.
01:05:30
You know, he was like, he's, you know, he's a big guard, you know? He works hard.
01:05:36
Obviously he can play defense, but I want to see what he could do.
01:05:39
So what does that mean? I want to see what he could do offensively, right? It says I want it, but, you know, I'm looking to see what he could dio.
01:05:46
So he already knows what he could do defensively because he talked about it.
01:05:50
He wants to see what he could do offensively.
01:05:51
So, you know, I mean, tips tells you, but you just got to read it.
01:05:56
You gotta read between the lines a little bit with him.
01:05:59
E think with tips.
01:06:00
Hey, if you are a student of the game, I mean, the guy went to study and thank Susan G for points out.
01:06:05
And I looked up.
01:06:06
The guy went to the warriors practice.
01:06:09
Hey, we've been speaking with Andrew Wiggins.
01:06:11
Andrew was like, I was surprised to see him, but, you know, we had a good talk myself.
01:06:14
The god of the student of the game, right? He he is going to put so many concepts around these kids, but it's to their benefit, right? If you don't buy into is no more.
01:06:26
Hey, the triangle I don't wanna learn.
01:06:28
It's like, Hey, look, it may not be trying maybe something else.
01:06:31
But if you're not gonna commit yourself to learning the system right and you shouldn't like, who do you benefit on this team? Who do you benefit in this team and look there, guys like, you know who I think it might be asleep.
01:06:43
I think I have two sleepers for this team.
01:06:45
I think quickly is a sleeper.
01:06:47
If he might kill me, I think he might get his way up from the bench.
01:06:50
Will not be able to start.
01:06:51
But I think he might be a Aaron Brooks type.
01:06:53
Miles power, I think.
01:06:56
Miles Powell, giving his time at seeing all the fact that was a leader.
01:06:59
Uh, the fact he played, he played well, The bombing.
01:07:02
Obviously, Last year he had the concussion, the foot injury.
01:07:04
So his numbers kind of dipped.
01:07:06
But this is a guy in Thibodaux.
01:07:08
I think he likes those Those bulldog type of guys like guys.
01:07:11
Look, the kids spent four years in college.
01:07:13
I mean, Thibodeau's probably like I know that's the old paradigm, but I love it.
01:07:17
I love I love these things. Guys air stay in school.
01:07:19
And they, you know, they worked on a game was Hey, I could you know, I average 17 the first year. I should be an MBA.
01:07:24
Something you could have a 17 1 year.
01:07:26
They still not be ready for the MBA, right? A lot of guys like that, we probably have a funeral on our team. Like knocks.
01:07:32
Um, so I think he's gonna look at a guy like Miles Power comes in. Beats out D S J.
01:07:37
He might be a bit ideas.
01:07:38
J think about this to drive to the basket.
01:07:40
Could shoot eyes, um, or put together player than D S J right.
01:07:44
And DJs, Flash or D J Ceiling is mostly based off his athleticism.
01:07:49
Yeah, I mean, and mouse power isn't known to be uber athletic, but he gets to the basket, which means that when he's playing against guys man one on one and he playing a team where he was, he was the only real talent, you know, he was finding ways to be guys in the basket which means smarts and known All right.
01:08:04
I know his hips shaped this way.
01:08:06
Or put this way.
01:08:07
I know he's playing.
01:08:08
To speak this way. Is playing the wrong defensive stance.
01:08:10
All right, let me catch with Jimmy.
01:08:11
Gotta write those basketball.
01:08:13
Smart said a guy like typical, I think.
01:08:14
Well, value.
01:08:16
And so a guy like my problem might be that a guy like quickly because he could hit the three and you hit the shot.
01:08:21
Um, he's a I was like, Dude, old guard.
01:08:24
But he's like a two guard who could do a little bit of everything right? Defend.
01:08:28
He's He has a 68 expands always 63 but 68 wingspan.
01:08:32
You know, he might come in.
01:08:33
He might come in getting 10, 15 minutes off the bench.
01:08:36
Tip looks up and the kid is hitting 33 threes a game or 23 threes a game.
01:08:42
Contribute on defense.
01:08:43
Thibodeau's like, you know? Hey, effort.
01:08:45
This'll, kid.
01:08:46
Maybe he needs to start by next year.
01:08:48
Maybe you push RJ batter, the three have quickly played to.
01:08:50
I'm just saying I'm just trying to put out the guys that might beat out because they all have a Thibodeau type of attribute about that.
01:08:58
He values a lot, So these years, they better be very careful.
01:09:03
Uh, everybody in the Chapman.
01:09:08
I apologize for the person who's calling it.
01:09:09
I don't want to cut off.
01:09:10
Sim was Met Tab don't And then Blanca somethin blank.
01:09:16
I apologize.
01:09:17
I don't mean, uh, ignore you guys, but no sin has to go and play ball.
01:09:21
E about to do the front stoop for about 30 minutes, and then I'm going to basketball practice.
01:09:27
Tim is gonna Simmons going to get his ankles destroyed.
01:09:29
Eso wish him luck.
01:09:32
You know, you don't gotta know more, but thank you, God e my left.
01:09:38
Hey, tried he tried.
01:09:40
Don't something out there and get me off real quick.
01:09:43
See that? I'm trying to say, man, I know Isaiah's trash, But come on, Z, now I'm just going, you know, smooth The Simpsons.
01:09:51
Everybody here, man, Bro, all the podcast out there.
01:09:56
All the guys coming, Lawrence, there's gonna be on at 11. 45.
01:09:58
Stay in New York podcast.
01:10:00
Go subscribe to put the link in the chat.
01:10:01
I've also put out the Jalen subs video for you guys to check out would be, you know, chasing ah bunch of these prospects.
01:10:07
And again, this is not me saying it next time.
01:10:10
I'm not saying that he's just me following these interesting processes that this draft is very it is very stack.
01:10:16
So these guys are very interesting.
01:10:18
Very interesting teams.
01:10:20
Um, so check out the jail sucks video.
01:10:22
I'll be doing more of that front stoop.
01:10:24
Please go subscribe to the front stew.
01:10:26
He's coming on.
01:10:27
Next on.
01:10:28
Do you could definitely hear the beat that I wanted to steal from Evergreen.
01:10:31
Um, hold on.
01:10:32
Do you want to take this one call before you leave? Yeah, Yeah, yeah.
01:10:36
Let's see if see if I should be able to be o K.
01:10:41
Hey, what's what you doing, man? Who's this? That's right.
01:10:47
Hey, what's up, bro? How you doing? I'm good.
01:10:50
Who's this? All right.
01:10:56
Whoa e don't know.
01:11:01
I don't know what that was about, but it was fun.
01:11:05
Uh, I'm gonna let him go because I know you want to get to the front stoop So guys, please head over to the front stoop.
01:11:12
Alright? Alright.
01:11:13
If this guy doesn't work, it doesn't work.
01:11:15
Hey, what's up Bolton The concept.
01:11:22
I know.
01:11:23
Who's this? What's your name? All right.
01:11:29
I don't know These guys doing alright, so e Alright, man E Tony Crow waiting for me.
01:11:38
So All right.
01:11:39
E Appreciate you, man.
01:11:43
Uh, tomorrow night, tomorrow night, right? Because slaves window we missed her tomorrow night, right? Yes, tomorrow.
01:11:48
And also find out I'll be covering a game.
01:11:50
So you'll be doing after game right after I was going to do the game to I was I was thinking maybe we could link we could link together.
01:11:59
Oh, yeah, sure.
01:12:00
I'm down for that.
01:12:01
Right? Like like we can I know we can find a way to do it.
01:12:05
All right.
01:12:06
Uh ah dammit! Alright, I might be because I have to talk.
01:12:11
Thio, I'll be able to use a laptop so I know how to do o.
01:12:16
B.
01:12:17
S now, unfortunately, can't do it on my Mac because I can't do the browser source for the chat.
01:12:21
But But what? What we could do is like, you just send me the link that you have for stream yard and then I could jump.
01:12:29
I can I can I have another camera so I could get on with that camera with this link, and then I still be able to show it on my computer.
01:12:35
And you could still show it on yours to the same what you're doing Alright. Definitely.
01:12:40
So Friday.
01:12:41
Um, yeah.
01:12:43
Let me change the title.
01:12:44
Then I'll definitely change title and put that out there.
01:12:46
So everybody knows that Cem and I are doing a joint, uh, Nick's Dunbar.
01:12:52
That's I bet this wrong Cleveland.
01:12:54
Uh, Cicero.
01:12:55
Including, by the way. So definitely.
01:12:56
Yeah. Be here for Friday.
01:12:57
We'll be covering this next preseason game Friday starting, I believe.
01:13:01
Seven o'clock.
01:13:02
So yeah, game starts at seven.
01:13:05
Jump on it like 6.
01:13:06
30 or something. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
01:13:08
All right, man.
01:13:09
Alright, He's ready.
01:13:11
Everybody Peace.
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God bless. Miss you guys.

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