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00:00:00
they last episode.
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John will have three more years left on his contract.
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You know, he was getting paid, he would get broken.
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You pretty much get broke off his next three years.
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So you have to look at that from the from the contract standpoint.
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So overall, I think the Wizards, I think they did a good job.
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I think they've got a great play in Westbrook.
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I said, Hall of Famer and you know he's gonna he's gonna electrify the team.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think I think Russell Rush was gonna do really well.
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Um, in Washington, I think Washington is going to toe like Russ.
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I think they should be a better fit than Russ and Harden.
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I mean, Bill is hey, averaged.
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He averaged what, over 30 a game this past season.
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He is.
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He is a legit player.
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Okay, He's definitely in my eyes.
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He's definitely top 10 in the league, Especially if you mean he's a two way player.
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He could shoot. Yo, he's nice.
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We'll put it that way.
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Um, but he's not a player that I feel has like my hardened.
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He gotta have a rock in his hands.
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I mean, he could.
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He could playoff ball.
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But he got how to rock in his hands. Bill.
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He could Yeah, he could Playoff ball.
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The West.
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You know what I'm saying? And he could.
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And when you need him to, he could be that number one guy.
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Give it to him on the wing or wherever on the court, Let him go. One on one.
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So but so because of that, I think they'll probably be a better fit.
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I mean, just taking a look at their roster.
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I mean, right before we jumped on, I I missed when they got Robin Lopez.
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I mean, they got ish Smith, Shabazz, Napier Burton's ACI Mora, who nobody really is talking about.
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Um, they got a They got a pretty good t they're gonna make they definitely gonna be something to reckon with out east.
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I like to move now for the for the rockets.
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Um, you know, with I mean, we know that the hardened he wants to be in New Jersey.
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We know that.
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Okay, s so they're gonna probably make a move there like Houston is not.
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You pointed this out plenty of times over the past couple of weeks.
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Alex that, you know, Houston's not really.
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They only like they're not trying to get for a championship.
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They they're trying to get it for, like, a rebuild.
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Andi just getting as much as they can, you know, put out a, I guess, Ah, competitive product on the core while they rebuild.
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But we see how well that works.
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But I like it.
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Yeah, I think I think the Wizards won this trade, man.
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I mean, look, they're gonna compete for a playoff spot, and I think if you're the Wizards, that's what you want.
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So you wanna be a to compete for a playoff spot? I think you'd be really interesting if they get the seventh or a C and then Brooklyn gets the one or two seed in.
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Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook end up matching up in the first round.
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That'll be interesting.
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Westbrook is not only is Westbrook the better player over wall, you know, just not only because Wall has been injured, but just historically like you, said Kwan, Westbrook's going to the Hall of Fame.
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You know, average three years of triple doubles, your in M v p.
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Like there's a lot of people down on Westbrook.
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But I'm looking at his numbers, man.
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He averaged 27 points last year, 27 8 and seven.
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I mean, like, he can still play.
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And I think to your point, Brandon.
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While Harden has to have the ball in his hands almost all the time, Bradley Bill can come off the ball, and he should be much better next to Westbrook than Harden was.
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So I think that they're gonna be a much better fit.
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So I think you make the trade.
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I mean, the Windsors did give up a draft pick, but the draft pick has some protections on it, so I don't really know how valuable the pick is.
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But Houston John Wall hasn't played John Wall hasn't played since 2018, 2019, and that year he played 32 games the year before.
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In 17 4018, he played 41 games.
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He hasn't really played a full season 78 games or so since 2016, so I mean, like, I have no idea what Houston's getting out of wall, but I do think the Wizards need to be concerned about this part, Fred Katz from the um he's a beat writer for the Wizards and for the athletic.
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Here's what Fred Katz said.
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Bradley, Bill told.
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I guess told the media.
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It's been an emotional week, definitely been tough.
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The last 24 48 72 hours, just kind of letting letting it off seep in and realizing your brother is no longer here with you.
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He's gone off to something better.
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He's gone off to something better.
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I don't know if that's Bill taking a shot at the Wizard's, because if it is, the Wizards got a problem you could take.
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You know, look so you could take it both ways and that that was a shot.
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It is a problem, but if it wasn't not, it wasn't a shot.
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I think he's putting this situation to where he's give him praise and he's so showing support for John Wall because I really think I really do feel as if the brother really wants to play really feels if you know and he can't play and I really feel as if that, uh, you know, mentally he wanted, like prices himself is one of the best point guards in the league.
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all right, so and that's the competitive nature of the game.
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So he sees that, and and and it hasn't really been that great.
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Just like you said, you went through the stats.
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Alex and I had been, hasn't been the best that since 2000, 16 years and played.
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So maybe he does that and he says, Hey, this is somewhere where you can go.
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You can rebuild.
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You could start over, start fresh and, you know, you never know Sky's the limit, but it just wasn't It just wasn't the best fit in Washington for him anymore.
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If it wasn't a shot at the Wizards franchise, have either of you been to Houston like, was it a shot at at the city of D.
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C versus Houston, the city of Houston? I was born in Houston.
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So yeah, I've been I you know, I think it might have been, you know, for walls, particular situation.
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It could have been just a better situation for him and not necessarily ah, shot at the organization as a whole.
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But maybe just for John Wall's situation for himself, because they've they've been John Wall has been involved in in trade talks for for quite some time.
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You know, I think it's been at least a couple of years.
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Him and Bradley build together.
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At least a conversation was started.
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At some point, you're gonna have to get rid of one of them.
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Which one is it gonna be? And, you know, with with Walls issues with his availability, this has probably been something that's been it's been lingering over his head for quite some time.
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And it could be just maybe there's some type of closure to this situation for wall.
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Maybe that's what he was alluding to rather than it being a shot of the organization.
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But I don't know.
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I don't know because, you know, Bill might have said that, but he also said that he was excited that Rust was on his way.
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This so you know, they're gearing up for the season.
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I it doesn't I don't think they don't sound like anybody's unhappy, but just, you know, we all got some closure to his situation, at least temporarily.
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And uh, yeah, that's probably what he's really well, we are.
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So I think we all agree that D C.
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Will compete for a playoff spot.
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But Houston Houston was the four seed last year, and Wall has barely played the last four years.
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Uh, is Houston still in the playoffs this year? That So let's say Wall is either is, you know, working his way back.
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We're still dealing with injuries.
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Is James Harden good enough to still get Houston and the playoffs by himself this season? Gonna help? Anywhere he's gonna he's gonna need some help.
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And just to throw out the teams the Lakers, the Clippers, the Nuggets, the Thunder, the Jazz, the Mavericks, the Blazers, the sons, the Grizzlies, New Orleans, you didn't you just named five teams that I don't I don't see them competing against if you don't even if you have James Harden.
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So three of those three of those teams weren't even in the playoffs last year.
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The sons, the Kings, the Warriors.
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I think they've all got better the pelicans to I think they all got better.
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Um, yeah, that's it's gonna be tough, but I mean harden hardness.
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Look, they still have good players.
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They still have good players on their roster.
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But once once hardened goes, I think that's, uh it depends on when he goes.
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If Harden sticks it out, you know? Hey, finishes the season in Houston.
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They I still think that they could be a playoff team.
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Um, I mean, even if Wallace is half the player that he is I mean, they were still a good team without Russell Westbrook, so I don't I don't put them as the contenders.
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I thought they would have been last year, but they will make the playoffs.
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Well, well, you know what? Let me take that back at all.
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The teams that we just listed those those teams got significantly better.
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E don't know, man.
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Good luck.
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You do you think? What are the odds that hardened finishes the season in Houston? E He loves the strip clubs there.
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Right? So that's one reason to stay.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he could go to strip clubs anyway, though, you know, Hey, probably got a cousin, some strip clubs in Houston.
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But, I mean, he can I say the odds. Maybe.
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Maybe Slim.
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They don't get him some help.
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I mean, yeah, if he if he's pushing Thio be moved, and he's asking them to trade him now, they need to go ahead and try to do that.
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as soon as possible.
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I think hanging on to him.
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Um, while he's like that, it's not.
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It's not beneficial Thio either party.
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So if Harden is indeed pushing for a trade e think it gets done.
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Uh, this season during the season, he doesn't finish in Houston.
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He's got two years left on his contract, I think.
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And, e you know, if he had one year left, he could certainly force his way out.
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E mean, you mentioned earlier.
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Brandon seems like the team he wants to go to is is ah, is the net there have been talks at the Warriors, placed a call to Houston and discuss the trade.
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Uh, I mean, look, Steph Curry even clearly playoff ball.
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But what do you do if the Warriors could Could somehow pull off a trade for Harden? Do you like to fit with him on that squad? Oh, uh, left Draymond.
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Yeah, I play is gonna be going for a season.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a great shoe. And that's a great ally.
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Wants a shoeing because James Harden snowshoeing, thio anybody in the league.
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But except for LeBron, but, um e that I mean, that's a great piece is you already know they don't have, you know, plays not coming.
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He's not gonna be playing.
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This is the season they got uber if they tried out on the court.
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Steph, you bray Harden Wiseman Draymond, you probably you probably have to give up.
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I would say you have to give up Wiseman and uber right to get harden true eso they do it Well, a question.
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How do you do it? I mean, look, if I'm going to state, I probably do it.
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I would probably do it.
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I mean, because Harden Harden getting Harden and, uh and stuff together, man, that that's killer.
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But I mean, e mean, you gotta do what you gotta dio I think Golden State really is strong with what they have now I don't It wouldn't be I'd have to really think about it because it wouldn't be like a like Oh, yeah, I'm definitely pulling the trigger on that.
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I mean, because I mean, yeah, Wiseman, you don't know what he's gonna be, But I mean, he's a big man with a lot of skill.
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I mean, he's got he's got the skill set to be a superstar, and I think uber, uber the same thing.
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Eso I mean, you're looking at you looking at trade.
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Not just too good players, but also your future for for for right now.
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Um, that would be tough.
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That would be tough.
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Well, I don't know how it shapes out.
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It's gonna be interesting season, no matter what.
00:13:00
Um, so I want to jump to this Clippers article or clippers scandal.
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However, you decided to look at it.
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The athletic surprisingly dropped this article earlier in the week.
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Um, discussing the chemistry issues that helped derail the clippers out will run.
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You know, before the season a lot of people picked them or the bucks.
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You know, my Lakers weren't necessarily the favorites by a lot of people out there, but the Clippers, um, we're certainly one of the favorites.
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And this article man detailed some of the issues that were going on internally with the Clippers this year.
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And just to highlight a few of those things, um, you know, there were players were upset that Kawhi Leonard and Paul George were allowed to have their own personal security and trainers um, Leonard and Paul George had the power over the team's practices travel schedule, and Leonard canceled several practices.
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Um, on his own.
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Hey was allowed Quiet was allowed to live in San Diego and commute to L.
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A, which it's a three hour drive.
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But even if you're taking a helicopter or a jet, it's, you know you're not in L. A.
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But that calls several team flights to be late.
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Um, then quiet.
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You know, superstars usually have to talk to the media.
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Well, co I and Paul George would typically wait 45 minutes to talk to the media, forcing their teammates to do it first and their teammates to take the brunt of questions after losses and things like that.
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Um, then there was this, reported that cool.
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I would hey commandeered the female locker room at Staples Center and, you know, women would have to, you know, women who needed to change.
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The female staffers of the Clippers who needed to change or use the restroom were not permitted to do so because, cool, I was using their locker room for his personal training sessions.
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It's a lot of stuff, man Uh, and then Paul George went on a podcast the other day and basically said Doc Rivers was trying to use him like JJ Red**** and through Doc Rivers under the bus.
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Uh, if you recall Paul George used to date Doc Rivers daughter and cheated on her with a stripper and got the stripper pregnant.
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So there's a lot of things that went down with this Clippers team.
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But, you know, are you surprised that there were all these internal issues require and Paul, George and the rest of the Clippers team It's L A E.
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It's a magical city, you know? So, uh, at the same time, I'm Wow, that's the case.
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I'm not I'm not a big I'm not a big personal favoritism.
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I'm not really big on that.
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You know, I understand that certain things come into play when you have these superstars and when you have a team to where you have to build some cohesiveness and you have ah, you know, you have players with he goes and somebody you know, when it comes to the pay scale, everybody is going to get what they may feel.
00:16:03
The next person should get well deserved, you know? Yeah, you know, whatever.
00:16:07
That's just how it is.
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Everybody's gonna have their their opinions and things.
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But I'm just not big on favoritism.
00:16:12
And if that's the case, if if there's things like that running rampant and the Clippers organization to the point where AH Superstar is literally using the women's bathroom to the point where they can't come in and they can't do what they need to do or the team other team, maybe they're being ostracized because this person is, you know, quote unquote superstar, then, yeah, that I don't I don't I don't like that.
00:16:38
I don't I don't agree with that.
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I don't agree with that at all.
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And look, I'm a Doc Rivers fan.
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I don't like anybody doing throwing Doc Rivers on the bus.
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I think I think he's a I think he's.
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I think he's a **** solid coach, even though you know you got no chips but still is a **** side of coach he got.
00:16:57
We got that one out of Boston got, you've got some issues, but yeah, I mean, website that went out of Boston.
00:17:02
Yeah, that's that's Boston whatever.
00:17:05
But I just Then you got the whole Donald Sterling thing that came out some years ago with him being racist and well, I mean, are you kind of surprised? Hey, look, some of this stuff sounds a little like a stretch.
00:17:18
I mean, like Doc Rivers has the respect of of a lot of people in the NBA.
00:17:26
And, like, I agree corn like, I don't think like I'm not a fan of, like, favoritism, but, you know, as a coach, you know, there's certain things that make different place.
00:17:36
Your players aren't all the same, you know, Um, so there is going to be you.
00:17:43
Sometimes you are going to treat some players Not sometimes pretty much any time.
00:17:47
You're gonna treat your players a little bit differently based on you know who they are.
00:17:51
Um, and what makes him tick, But like like Hawaiian PG controlled practice schedule.
00:17:57
Like how I This seems like a like with Doc Rivers coach.
00:18:03
So I mean, you trying to say, like, you know, we're gonna practice next week on Tuesday and Thursday.
00:18:08
We ain't gonna practice on friday.
00:18:10
Like, were they making those type of decisions? Like I don't know about that man.
00:18:15
Like who? I don't know.
00:18:18
Well, it just seems like a stretch.
00:18:23
Here's I think, part of it is.
00:18:25
And you know, look, I'm biased.
00:18:28
I'm a Lakers fan.
00:18:29
So I am by e have to acknowledge that, uh, I think part of it is the Clippers spent millions of dollars running this campaign in L.
00:18:38
A.
00:18:39
This we over me campaign, which was a clear shot at the Lakers having two superstars and the Lakers stuff, and it was a clear shot on all season long.
00:18:48
People said, You know, all these things about the Clippers were actually gonna apply to the Lakers, and it didn't So I think, you know, there's a lot of hypocrisy going on.
00:18:56
Um, I also think that is ****ing for the Clippers.
00:19:00
When you have Trez go to the Lakers and John Michael Green go to Denver.
00:19:05
The two other top teams in the West, right and Tres had pointed out there were issues throughout the season.
00:19:12
But people were basically saying that Well, treasures just they were blaming trends for those issues and then but to Michael Green came out and said, You know, they asked him about him going to Denver, and he referenced the way that Denver moved the ball the way they played together as a team that's that's gotta be a shot at at the Clippers, and I think Star players are gonna get star treatment.
00:19:34
That's how it works.
00:19:35
And, frankly, they should.
00:19:36
But I do agree you can't have your star player living three hours away.
00:19:42
That's ridiculous.
00:19:43
And that, I mean, if it's affecting the travel schedule, yeah, but otherwise I don't really I don't really care.
00:19:52
I mean, how hard the Kobe live from From then, he usedto he took a helicopter.
00:20:00
Yeah, but he lived in Orange County, which is which is in Los Angeles.
00:20:04
He didn't live three hours away.
00:20:06
So that's what I mean.
00:20:07
And I mean, there's a basically, I think there's just like you can't do the off court chemistry building stuff if your star players three hours away, I think that's what they're talking about.
00:20:17
And I think y kind of guy that comes in and he comes in, and, uh, he punches his time clock.
00:20:25
He bust ass on the court and he goes home.
00:20:28
There's nothing out of that.
00:20:30
That's the kind of player I see.
00:20:31
They knew that, but they knew, but they knew that when they got CO I and to be honest with you.
00:20:35
That was wasn't that view.
00:20:37
That's kind of like a positive.
00:20:38
You bring in a guy with this supreme talent and he's not going to cause you any issues in the locker room.
00:20:43
He's gonna come.
00:20:44
He's gonna be a gym rat.
00:20:45
He's going to do his job now.
00:20:47
Now we bashing code for I don't know.
00:20:49
I just think so, Zach.
00:20:52
Now, that's that's like, I don't have you come in like you said.
00:20:55
You come in punch a time clock, you work hard.
00:20:58
You do what you gotta do.
00:20:59
Punch a time clock out by the time you're gone, you have other things to do in your life.
00:21:04
So you know, I'm in the greens to that.
00:21:07
Well, that shout out the Brian who's in the comments.
00:21:10
He's a beat writer for the Clippers, and he said, Oh, he has a penthouse across from Staples Center.
00:21:14
So he does have ah, place to stay across, um, Staples Center.
00:21:17
Uh, but I, uh, like and faras like like John Michael Green and Trees E trade.
00:21:27
What the hell else do you want, man? You got sixth man of the year.
00:21:30
You was getting the ball.
00:21:31
You was getting buckets s o they like, I don't know, some of this is.
00:21:36
I mean, they met, They lost, they lost.
00:21:38
So there, every team, every team, every team has issues like like, I'm pretty sure the lake has even had their issues throughout the not not this year with a S.
00:21:49
It was Kumbaya all year.
00:21:51
That's impossible.
00:21:52
It's humanly impossible.
00:21:55
You've got however many, however many people it in a safe space for for months at a time.
00:22:03
Oh, I'm pretty sure they had their arguments.
00:22:05
Here's the thing.
00:22:06
The thing with the Lakers is, as Shaq and Kobe showed us Lakers could be at each other's throats.
00:22:11
Or like LeBron and anti Davis showed be great together.
00:22:15
You know, love each other.
00:22:16
We still win.
00:22:17
Unfortunately, talking about you're comparing your comparing everybody else to the best players who've ever played the game like, Hey, baby, Shaq, LEBRON like there are no other players like them.
00:22:33
You're right.
00:22:35
The Lakers played the Lakers, paid big money for them, for I'm forced a but it's so but I So you think Do you think that the issues that the article raise or nothing, or do you think There's something going into the new season.
00:22:49
I think it's something you don't have.
00:22:51
When when there's smoke, there's fire.
00:22:53
That's always there's something.
00:22:54
There's something I want to be around, people around there.
00:22:58
They they're playing Lord various.
00:23:02
There's people going around that game of Thrones reference.
00:23:04
Yeah, yeah, you don't walk around and make all that money.
00:23:07
You don't have insiders and something like that comes out, it comes out for Lou, Williams said.
00:23:12
There were issues there, said they were trust issues.
00:23:15
I mean, I mean, things break down because they lost or maybe they lost because things broke down, who knows? But I mean, it sounds like they lost. They were upset.
00:23:27
They had high expectations had they won and made it to the finals.
00:23:31
I don't know if all of this stuff, when it came out, they probably would have blocked it out.
00:23:35
But I'm not saying there's no issues there.
00:23:38
What I'm saying is, I don't think yeah, I'm not sure if these issues are uncommon.
00:23:45
I mean, you have people working together, they're gonna have issues and you have a lot of high profile players playing together.
00:23:50
So when **** goes wrong, somebody gonna have a problem with some.
00:23:53
I should have got the ball.
00:23:54
Boy, You 1/6 man of the year.
00:23:56
You're not the best player of the team.
00:23:58
You 1/6 man of the year.
00:23:59
What more do you want? How much more do you are we supposed to go to you? Now? You? The first option, like some stuff, is just like, yo, we lost and they upset and they moved on Thio situations that they fell a better.
00:24:12
Oh, that's just That's just what I see.
00:24:16
I think she wants a ring, and he came to the right place.
00:24:20
Hey, probably more money to, you know, He could have got more from Charlotte.
00:24:27
Charlotte offered him more money.
00:24:28
Um, than the Lakers did.
00:24:30
Or could, But so So Okay, just real quick with the Clippers off from or to the Clippers off from peanuts over.
00:24:38
I don't I don't know, Brian.
00:24:40
If you're If you're still in a chat, man, what did the Clippers offer? Tries anything to come back? Brian said nothing.
00:24:46
So okay or deny.
00:24:47
Even I feel president.
00:24:48
So I come back.
00:24:49
I'm six plum, sixth man of the year, and you wanna give me peanuts? No, I'm out.
00:24:53
I'm going somewhere.
00:24:54
If I gotta go across the street somewhere to a team that's gonna value me and I And I'm aware I could win a ring and you're gonna pay me.
00:25:00
I'm out. I'm going.
00:25:01
I'm taking my services elsewhere.
00:25:03
Sorry.
00:25:04
Sorry. Oh, yeah.
00:25:07
How could I s? I'm trying not to be biased because I'm a Lakers fan, man.
00:25:11
But, like, I feel like a lot of this was brought on because the Clippers were clearly taking shot that the Lakers all season long and not only the Clippers themselves, but, like just the national media, the national media talking about, you know, quiet Maurin, selfish than LeBron or Kobe is better than LeBron or the Clippers.
00:25:29
Or somehow they they're they're the team of L.
00:25:32
A. Like none of that stuff was true.
00:25:34
None of it.
00:25:35
And I feel like this.
00:25:36
The epic meltdown losing the Denver the way they lost the Denver man that was ugly.
00:25:42
But again, Denver is is a good team.
00:25:44
And as far as like these these slogans, you know Ah, lot of that is the market is the marketing.
00:25:50
I mean, ****, if I was head of the marketing department.
00:25:54
I would have did the same thing, too.
00:25:55
Man, we're about to make money.
00:25:56
We about to make this a l A Lakers verse clippers thing to to power teams in the same city like I didn't You didn't see co I going out there saying, you know, we're gonna bust the Lakers ass today like it wasn't him saying that he did do.
00:26:09
He did that new balance commercial saying that he was like the King of L.
00:26:12
A or something like that was a clear shot at LeBron E Z.
00:26:19
Like even even even Brian said the marketing was like It is entertainment very much so.
00:26:25
But like one franchise at the time had 16 championships and could arguably put together the greatest all time team versus the NBA, like right? So the marketing department for the Clippers felt that they had to talk **** to be heard, and it backfired s Oh, yeah, you got to come with a different angle this year.
00:26:44
You can't come in talking ****.
00:26:46
You got your ass B.
00:26:47
But what I'm trying to say is that it wasn't like it wasn't Doc Rivers going around talking **** it wasn't why going around talking **** did so that they did ask Doc about load management earlier in the season.
00:27:02
And they asked him, What did he think the Lakers load management would be? And Doc said, whatever LEBRON wants it to be, And then this article came out, Hawaii could dictate when practices were when he played Paul George could do it.
00:27:15
And so you're saying LeBron could do it on the Lakers in? Meanwhile, your star players are really doing it on your end.
00:27:22
Doc was talking **** to and Doc, Doc has one championship with the Celtics and they pretend that that championship is like three.
00:27:30
I'm sorry.
00:27:31
I'm sorry.
00:27:32
He talked a little issue.
00:27:33
That's what Earlier when I was saying E ship was like, Yeah, I totally I totally disregarded the chip that he got in Boston and because because because Andrew Bynum was hurting, they wouldn't have one of Andrew Bynum was healthy.
00:27:48
I'm saying I get it now.
00:27:51
I didn't put two and two together.
00:27:52
Doc Rivers was the coach of the Celtics the last time you guys had a dynasty and you was talking ****.
00:27:58
And now Doc Rivers is the head coach of the clip.
00:28:01
I get it now I've I put to it to together.
00:28:04
I wonder why you want a dock so hard? Very nice.
00:28:08
Doc was talking ish.
00:28:09
Hey, did talk fish e mean s Oh, you know him? He's got Look, he's got Mawr three.
00:28:19
He's got more blown 31 lead than he does championships.
00:28:22
He has a blown 31 lead in, uh in Orlando, one in Boston and now one with the Clippers.
00:28:29
Like mhm.
00:28:30
Speaking of speaking of blown 31 leads, Let's talk.
00:28:33
Let's talk about the Knicks.
00:28:34
Now let's talk about how we're getting 33 free agents and and got Julius Randle.
00:28:39
That was way, Let's assed Brian alluded. It's actually, too.
00:28:46
He had to to blown 31 leaves the Clippers with the lob City Clippers.
00:28:52
So, with Doc, you had Tracy McGrady.
00:28:56
You didn't get a championship.
00:28:58
You only got one championship out of the Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Ray Allen Trio.
00:29:03
You didn't get a ring with the live city trio and then you lost with Quiet and Paul.
00:29:07
George, I mean, like, yo Okay, yeah, some of the best players in their primes, it only got one championship, but on the people.
00:29:16
And but his competition had better players.
00:29:18
Exactly what I was gonna point out.
00:29:20
Like it wasn't like he was playing.
00:29:21
He's playing against, like, literally the best players on the against the world like he was playing against.
00:29:26
Like I mean LeBron James.
00:29:29
I mean, yeah, Kobe and Shaq did.
00:29:31
I mean I mean, yeah, he squeezed that one, that one ship out of his ass, and he had Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and and he just squeaked out of that one.
00:29:43
I mean, come on.
00:29:45
We gotta give it to him, man.
00:29:46
You got to give it to him.
00:29:47
He got todo I didn't.
00:29:48
Didn't they bust your ass in the elimination game? I mean, it was it wasn't I'm just saying the sense of, you know, the time he's been in the league.
00:29:56
Thio you know where he needs to go to.
00:29:58
You know, Thio particularly get a ring like it took him.
00:30:01
That man took him that long, So I think that I think that he's overrated as a coach.
00:30:07
That's what That's how I look at it.
00:30:08
He's a championship coach, but like e think He's overrated.
00:30:14
I e No, we went on a bit of a tangent.
00:30:17
I don't know where you rank him all the time in terms of coaches or where he ranks right now in the league.
00:30:21
But, like Doc, Doc is overly celebrated for that one championship.
00:30:29
That's how I see it.
00:30:30
Wow.
00:30:32
Like, do you think he's better than Erik Spoelstra? Hell, yeah.
00:30:36
What? Come on. Yo.
00:30:39
And Eric supposed Where did that team you are? You, like, Really? Now look, Brandon, where he's at now event and where he's got I mean, where he's at now.
00:30:46
And when he took the heat.
00:30:49
Great job.
00:30:50
Great job sticking through the fire.
00:30:54
When? When All the when. All when? LeBron.
00:30:56
When? When Bosch left.
00:30:57
When? When? You know Dwyane Wade all that great job, man.
00:31:01
And you know what is he? Tyler's got one ring.
00:31:05
Is he better than Ty Lue? Yeah, I would put him above tired.
00:31:10
I would hire Doc before tile.
00:31:12
Ooh, e.
00:31:15
I'm just I'm used to Phil Jackson, so I just You know, I'm saying your pedestal is up here.
00:31:24
Your You know what? Your legs guys, so like, you all have a great man so e. I understand.
00:31:29
I get it.
00:31:30
Well, that Spoelstra and Doc Rivers that that one's got me thinking, man.
00:31:35
Suppose got what? Suppose got three, right? No, Riley got that one in five.
00:31:40
How many supposed got to? Well, I'll be honest with you.
00:31:43
I don't just look at champ.
00:31:45
I mean, I don't just look at championships.
00:31:48
I look at, like the way they coach are they getting the most out of their players, You know, the rosters that they have, you know? So you don't think Doc underachieve with that lob city team? They were.
00:32:02
They were good before, before Golden State became a juggernaut and they failed.
00:32:09
They just had again.
00:32:12
They just weren't.
00:32:13
I mean, it was a good team.
00:32:14
They compete.
00:32:15
They were one of the better teams, but they just weren't the best team.
00:32:19
They didn't have the best talent.
00:32:21
Golden State, like I mean, this flat, the splash brothers like I mean, it was, you know, I mean, they they had it, you know, like it was.
00:32:30
It's kind of with no comparison.
00:32:32
They had good.
00:32:33
I mean, they have good players and during that time with dark had, But I mean you know you got warriors, Brian through one out.
00:32:40
Is Doc better than Rick Carlisle? Mm.
00:32:47
Right now, the first to you on this one? Yeah.
00:32:50
I mean, I don't think you I think that's a That's more of an opinionated questions for me.
00:32:59
I don't I don't You know, I think, Dr E.
00:33:04
I think Carl, I was a great coach.
00:33:06
I think you know what he did with Dallas Carlyle.
00:33:09
I mean, that was very impressive.
00:33:11
I mean, are you? What's his name? Another name? Well, I don't know Larry Brown, because because I'm trying to think back to championships that were won by teams where I felt the other team had more talent and the underdog team was just being So you know, Coach, just so you know, they had great coaching, but that's like Larry Brown is Definitely.
00:33:36
I think he's a Hall of Fame coach.
00:33:38
I don't know, man.
00:33:39
Carlisle and Doc Rivers.
00:33:40
I think I think you'll have a good team.
00:33:43
If you hire either coach, neither one was going to guarantee you a championship e mean ****.
00:33:49
Carlos Carlos got some ****.
00:33:51
Dallas got some talent.
00:33:54
Yeah, they do that that they dio Brandon, you brought up the Knicks.
00:33:58
Do you want to spend a few minutes talking about the Knicks? No, no.
00:34:02
Let's go on to, uh, I'm not ready yet.
00:34:05
I'll say this.
00:34:06
I I am excited with for the young talent that we have.
00:34:09
Um, I want to see who the hell we tried out there.
00:34:13
They as point guard.
00:34:15
No, I want to see who's the point guard by the end of the season.
00:34:17
I don't really care who is the point guard.
00:34:18
The beginning of season.
00:34:19
Who's the point guard by the by the end of the season, all right? I don't know, man.
00:34:25
Still don't know why you didn't make a play for for us.
00:34:28
But we did.
00:34:29
We did. We just weren't giving up.
00:34:31
We weren't giving up the house like they wanted us to and which I think was a smart move so far.
00:34:39
Sucks for them. Good for us.
00:34:41
Yeah.
00:34:43
Yeah, The ones is better than the Knicks.
00:34:45
The Wizards are better than the Knicks.
00:34:49
Well, let's let's jump the NFL, pick him, and I'm going to defer to Brandon toe lead this lead the show because I don't know a whole lot about the NFL these days, so, uh oh, yeah.
00:35:01
Hey, I see Mikey in the comments.
00:35:03
Hey, Mikey, log on real quick.
00:35:05
You could be in the comment.
00:35:07
You could be on the show.
00:35:09
Right? Right, Right.
00:35:10
I can't do it.
00:35:12
All right.
00:35:16
Yeah.
00:35:17
Anyway, anyway, we've got some pretty good games this week.
00:35:21
Week 13 in the NFL.
00:35:22
Sorry we didn't bring week 12 to y'all.
00:35:24
They, Mike and Kwon needed to break for me Busting.
00:35:27
They asked for the past, What, five weeks in a row? So we'll let you get that, bro.
00:35:35
We'll let you get back.
00:35:36
You let me get that.
00:35:38
Oh, man.
00:35:39
Let's see.
00:35:40
A week 13.
00:35:42
Let's see what we got.
00:35:43
We 13.
00:35:44
Well, right now, I guess I should have pulled.
00:35:48
Pulled the graphic.
00:35:49
Right now I'm up three on Mikey and I'm up 10 on you. Kwon.
00:35:53
I've got 88 W's.
00:35:54
Mikey's got 85.
00:35:56
You've got 78.
00:35:57
So this is a big week for you, kwon, but I'm gonna leave you guys further in the dust, so let's go ahead and get started.
00:36:03
Uh, first game I guy here I at the Cleveland Browns at the Tennessee Titans.
00:36:10
Kwon who you got? I got Tennessee.
00:36:14
10 a key, baby.
00:36:15
21 Brown's 14.
00:36:18
It's gonna be a great game to two of the best Russian attacks Office.
00:36:22
Be good.
00:36:25
Yeah, actually, you are right.
00:36:27
Kwan, These are the number one and number two Russian teams.
00:36:32
Um, in the NFL.
00:36:34
Uh, next up we got we got Vegas at the at the Jets.
00:36:42
00 man.
00:36:43
Who you got? Kwan.
00:36:45
Raiders 21 Jets three, Raiders 21 Jets three.
00:36:51
Okay, okay, I got I pick the jets in this one.
00:36:56
E a Bailey.
00:37:01
If you're watching my bad bro, Um, e Well, a couple of reasons.
00:37:06
Uh, I'll keep this quick.
00:37:09
Um, Jacobs is out.
00:37:11
So he's not running the ball, and Vegas is reeling a little bit, So I had I pick the jets to win.
00:37:18
Um, next up, Jacksonville at Minnesota.
00:37:22
Who you got? Kwan.
00:37:23
Hold on.
00:37:24
Hold on.
00:37:25
Before you go quiet before you go, Brandon, Mike is dropping his picks, his scores, and, uh okay, Okay. My bad.
00:37:31
OK, Mike's got Tennessee went in 32 24 he's got Vegas.
00:37:35
He's got Vegas 28 14 way Got Jacksonville at Minnesota.
00:37:41
Who you got I got many.
00:37:42
21 Jack 17.
00:37:45
Okay, Parker, Parker's got Minnesota 24 17.
00:37:49
And I have Minnesota as well.
00:37:52
28 14.
00:37:55
Uh, next up, we've got Cincinnati at Miami.
00:37:59
Who? You got? Corn? 21 Dolphins.
00:38:03
Bengal seven.
00:38:04
No borough? No girl.
00:38:08
I tell you what.
00:38:09
After watching the Bangles in the Giants game last week, I gained a little respect for Cincinnati.
00:38:14
They they're not winning a lot of games, but they're not actually bad.
00:38:17
But I still got him losing.
00:38:19
I still got him losing Miami.
00:38:21
I got Miami 24 17.
00:38:23
Mike has got Miami as well.
00:38:24
26 17.
00:38:27
Next up, we've got the Indianapolis Colts at the Houston Texas.
00:38:31
Kwan, what you got? I'm going with the Coast.
00:38:34
23 Texans, nine **** colts anymore.
00:38:40
You're not I'm not going to get, But you're not going against the Colts.
00:38:44
Okay? Okay, okay.
00:38:47
Yeah, they're they're defense.
00:38:48
Is is serious, but, you know, it's just something about him.
00:38:51
But I do have him winning this game.
00:38:52
28 20 for Mikey's got India's well, 26 21.
00:38:58
Next up, we've got the Detroit lines at the Chicago Bears.
00:39:02
Dub bears.
00:39:03
Who you got going now I am betting against the Lions because they suck.
00:39:08
I'm not going anymore when he comes to match, Nephew.
00:39:11
Hey, needs to go.
00:39:13
He's done.
00:39:14
Lions nine Bears 21.
00:39:17
Yeah, everything.
00:39:18
You put the smaller school in front of the larger one.
00:39:21
That throws me off a little bit, but he's got Chicago with it.
00:39:23
I agree with you.
00:39:24
Quite have to see if anybody who saw Detroit play Thanksgiving or at least just saw the score was like, No, I can't I can't put no money on them.
00:39:33
Dudes, No more Chicago 21 2021 17.
00:39:37
I got them winning, Mike.
00:39:39
Holy moment, Mike.
00:39:41
Mike, after watching the lines on Thanksgiving, picks them to beat Chicago 17 to 16, I guess because he just doesn't trust Robiskie.
00:39:50
That Chicago office does look pretty bad.
00:39:52
And Alan Robinson is not playing, so hey, might get one there. We'll see.
00:39:58
Next up.
00:39:59
We've got the Saints at Atlanta.
00:40:02
What's up, Quan? I got them.
00:40:04
I got them.
00:40:05
Who? That boy is winning 23 against them Falcons from dirty board from Dirty Birds.
00:40:11
17.
00:40:13
Okay, okay.
00:40:14
Okay.
00:40:15
I got something similar here. I have the Saints winning as well.
00:40:17
27 24 might say, Did y'all watch? Chicago gets Green Bay.
00:40:23
Good point.
00:40:26
Touche.
00:40:27
Touche.
00:40:28
I got the Saints win in 27 24 in Atlanta.
00:40:33
Mike's got Atlanta pulling this one out tight game 24. 23.
00:40:37
I could I could see it going that way as well.
00:40:40
Um, next up.
00:40:43
Uh huh.
00:40:44
Come on, Giants.
00:40:46
We have the New York football giants at Seattle.
00:40:50
Uh, Daniel Jones is doubtful.
00:40:53
Which really hurts my heart.
00:40:55
Twan who you got? I got Seattle and I got Seattle.
00:41:00
Went in 23.
00:41:02
And I'm just because we're brothers, I'm gonna give you 14 points with the Giants.
00:41:08
You know what, Kwan? I will.
00:41:10
You almost picked the exact same score I picked.
00:41:12
I, unfortunately picked see out on the win this game 23 to 15.
00:41:17
Um, e mean Colt McCoy.
00:41:20
We saw him in Washington, and we saw him last week when he subbed in for Daniel Jones.
00:41:25
Holy ****.
00:41:26
We're in trouble.
00:41:28
Uh, Mike Scott, Seattle is well, 24 17.
00:41:32
Come on, come on, Coat.
00:41:33
This is the biggest game of your life.
00:41:37
Uh, next up, we got the los Angeles Rams at the Arizona Cardinals.
00:41:43
Kwon who you got? Oh, that's a good one.
00:41:46
That's a good one.
00:41:47
That's Ah, and it's in rivalry.
00:41:50
Uh, and rivalry game.
00:41:52
So I'm gonna go with go with the Rams.
00:41:57
Um, yeah, yeah.
00:42:02
21.
00:42:03
Uh, I'm you didn't think this one through before we went live.
00:42:11
You missed.
00:42:14
You missed this one.
00:42:16
Um, all right, well, you got the rams winning.
00:42:19
Alright, Alright, because right now you're just throwing out numbers.
00:42:23
Okay? Kwan's got the rams.
00:42:24
I got the Ramses.
00:42:25
Well, Kwan good ****ysis without doing ****ysis.
00:42:29
Uh, 24.
00:42:31
23 is what? I had them winning one point.
00:42:34
A close game.
00:42:36
Uh, Mike.
00:42:39
Mike Who you got? Yeah.
00:42:42
Did you not do your pick either? You got a 5431 Okay, we're moving on.
00:42:50
All right.
00:42:51
Next up, we've got New England at the Los Angeles Chargers.
00:42:57
You got, uh, I got in the New England Patriots 14 10, 14 to 10.
00:43:07
That sounds like a ****ty game.
00:43:08
I have New England winning as well.
00:43:10
25.
00:43:11
24.
00:43:12
Mike, you said you posted your rams, uh, Arizona pick.
00:43:17
I don't see it in the chat anyway.
00:43:22
Mike's got the charges went in 21 20 Mike Poster poster Rams Arizona game again because I don't see it in the chat anyway.
00:43:32
Let's move on.
00:43:36
Next up.
00:43:37
Oh, yeah.
00:43:38
I can't wait for this game because I can't wait to see them lose.
00:43:40
We have the Philadelphia bagels.
00:43:43
I mean, eagles at the Green Bay Packers.
00:43:47
Kwon Who? You got Packers 28 Eagles 14.
00:43:52
I am.
00:43:53
You know, we on point. You know, I almost had the same score.
00:43:55
Pack is 28 Philly 17.
00:43:59
Let's go, Green Bay.
00:44:00
Do what you're supposed to do.
00:44:03
All right, Uh, Parker, Parker's got Green Bay 28. 14.
00:44:14
All right, all right.
00:44:16
Yeah, way.
00:44:17
All seem to have Green Bay beating up on Philly by at least two possessions this week.
00:44:22
Next, we got Denver at K C.
00:44:25
What you got, Kwan? I mean, way all got a king.
00:44:27
See, I'm pretty sure, but go ahead.
00:44:29
Yeah.
00:44:30
Casey, 28 Denver 10.
00:44:34
Yeah, I got something similar.
00:44:35
I got k c 38 16 e notice rivalry game, but, you know, like, ah, okay.
00:44:48
My scat KHD 33 14 them a I don't know.
00:44:54
Denver. Denver might shut me up this week.
00:44:56
We'll see.
00:44:57
All right.
00:44:58
Um, this one, this next one actually is an interesting game for me.
00:45:01
Washington football team at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:45:06
Kwon who you got historically, we don't do well on Monday nights.
00:45:12
We just don't.
00:45:13
We are horrible on Monday nights, and we have the Steelers who's undefeated.
00:45:17
Mhm.
00:45:18
But I'm gonna go with my boys, man.
00:45:20
I'm gonna go with my boys, man. I'm gonna go.
00:45:22
Washington 23 Pittsburgh 17.
00:45:29
Can I just say that I went back and forth on this one? Y'all I I initially picked y'all toe win, but I have since changed my answer.
00:45:41
But I can see all win in this game.
00:45:43
I don't know.
00:45:44
I replayed the game in my head and Chase Young was given Ben Roethlisberger A lot of fits, but I didn't.
00:45:52
I did pick Pittsburgh.
00:45:54
Um, hopefully, this is a common sense picked, but I picked them to win 22 19.
00:45:59
Mike who you got, bro.
00:46:03
Pittsburgh 27 to 10.
00:46:05
Mike said bump that their their pass rush change nothing.
00:46:08
You know what made me switch? The Pittsburgh was I was like, You know what? They have a pretty good, **** good pass rush that themselves.
00:46:16
So maybe Alex Smith struggles a little bit more than Rob Pittsburgh.
00:46:19
One of the pass rushers has done for the season.
00:46:21
But he's out.
00:46:22
So you still got I mean, he's out.
00:46:24
He's out T j coming out there, you know? And e mean, I think Stefan to I don't know if he's playing, but I mean that that that that defense is stellar.
00:46:35
So it's I mean, it's gonna be a hard one, but we'll see without Dupri.
00:46:41
Hopefully for you guys.
00:46:42
Gibson gets off a little bit because Dupri is very good verse to run. Anyway.
00:46:47
Next game Buffalo at San Francisco.
00:46:50
Who you got going? Buffalo 22 Niners nine.
00:46:55
****! Okay, I went Buffalo Aziz.
00:46:58
Well, 25 23.
00:47:01
Parker, man, just type your next to scores, man.
00:47:05
Buffalo 24 17.
00:47:08
Buffalo Park has got Buffalo 24 17.
00:47:12
Okay, All right.
00:47:13
Next up.
00:47:14
Last game.
00:47:15
Uh, here we have a way of Dallas at Baltimore.
00:47:22
Oh, man.
00:47:23
Have we had this matchup in week one or two? There'd be a lot of **** talking.
00:47:27
You know, we're going to the Super Bowl this week, Week 13.
00:47:31
I think both fan bases are like, Yo, I give up and they don't give a ****. So who you got? Kwan.
00:47:39
I'm gonna go with the home team.
00:47:40
I'm gonna go with Baltimore 21 Cow.
00:47:43
I'm sorry.
00:47:44
Cowboys 10 17 to 10.
00:47:48
21 21 10, 21 10 Ravens.
00:47:54
Okay.
00:47:55
All right.
00:47:56
Um, Thistle is an interesting score.
00:48:00
I did this late last night, so I might have been sleepy.
00:48:03
I pick the cowboys toe win.
00:48:04
Wow, you must have been on.
00:48:06
Um no does.
00:48:07
Excuse me.
00:48:09
I'm sorry, but check the score that I put down here 27 to 13.
00:48:12
E must have been nosing off, but I was stick with it, because if I'm right, I would be like I told John.
00:48:22
Anyway, Mike, who you got be more 27 17? That'll probably will probably be the score.
00:48:27
I don't know why I picked out to be honest with you, but we'll see what happens anyway.
00:48:31
That wraps up this week's edition off NFL picking with otr again.
00:48:37
I'm winning by a lot.
00:48:39
I'll probably be winning by a lot after this week, but we'll continue and see what happens next week? Alex? Take it away, NFL man.
00:48:50
Great show, fellow.
00:48:53
I think we all had a lot of fun on this one.
00:48:56
I certainly enjoy here, and you guys go back and forth, NFL, even though I don't follow it.
00:49:00
Very, very funny Commentary.
00:49:04
We're back next with folks with PR, Uh
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they last episode.
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John will have three more years left on his contract.
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You know, he was getting paid, he would get broken.
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You pretty much get broke off his next three years.
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So you have to look at that from the from the contract standpoint.
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So overall, I think the Wizards, I think they did a good job.
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I think they've got a great play in Westbrook.
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I said, Hall of Famer and you know he's gonna he's gonna electrify the team.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think I think Russell Rush was gonna do really well.
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Um, in Washington, I think Washington is going to toe like Russ.
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I think they should be a better fit than Russ and Harden.
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I mean, Bill is hey, averaged.
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He averaged what, over 30 a game this past season.
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He is.
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He is a legit player.
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Okay, He's definitely in my eyes.
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He's definitely top 10 in the league, Especially if you mean he's a two way player.
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He could shoot. Yo, he's nice.
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We'll put it that way.
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Um, but he's not a player that I feel has like my hardened.
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He gotta have a rock in his hands.
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I mean, he could.
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He could playoff ball.
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But he got how to rock in his hands. Bill.
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He could Yeah, he could Playoff ball.
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The West.
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You know what I'm saying? And he could.
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And when you need him to, he could be that number one guy.
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Give it to him on the wing or wherever on the court, Let him go. One on one.
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So but so because of that, I think they'll probably be a better fit.
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I mean, just taking a look at their roster.
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I mean, right before we jumped on, I I missed when they got Robin Lopez.
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I mean, they got ish Smith, Shabazz, Napier Burton's ACI Mora, who nobody really is talking about.
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Um, they got a They got a pretty good t they're gonna make they definitely gonna be something to reckon with out east.
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I like to move now for the for the rockets.
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Um, you know, with I mean, we know that the hardened he wants to be in New Jersey.
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We know that.
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Okay, s so they're gonna probably make a move there like Houston is not.
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You pointed this out plenty of times over the past couple of weeks.
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Alex that, you know, Houston's not really.
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They only like they're not trying to get for a championship.
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They they're trying to get it for, like, a rebuild.
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Andi just getting as much as they can, you know, put out a, I guess, Ah, competitive product on the core while they rebuild.
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But we see how well that works.
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But I like it.
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Yeah, I think I think the Wizards won this trade, man.
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I mean, look, they're gonna compete for a playoff spot, and I think if you're the Wizards, that's what you want.
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So you wanna be a to compete for a playoff spot? I think you'd be really interesting if they get the seventh or a C and then Brooklyn gets the one or two seed in.
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Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook end up matching up in the first round.
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That'll be interesting.
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Westbrook is not only is Westbrook the better player over wall, you know, just not only because Wall has been injured, but just historically like you, said Kwan, Westbrook's going to the Hall of Fame.
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You know, average three years of triple doubles, your in M v p.
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Like there's a lot of people down on Westbrook.
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But I'm looking at his numbers, man.
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He averaged 27 points last year, 27 8 and seven.
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I mean, like, he can still play.
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And I think to your point, Brandon.
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While Harden has to have the ball in his hands almost all the time, Bradley Bill can come off the ball, and he should be much better next to Westbrook than Harden was.
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So I think that they're gonna be a much better fit.
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So I think you make the trade.
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I mean, the Windsors did give up a draft pick, but the draft pick has some protections on it, so I don't really know how valuable the pick is.
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But Houston John Wall hasn't played John Wall hasn't played since 2018, 2019, and that year he played 32 games the year before.
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In 17 4018, he played 41 games.
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He hasn't really played a full season 78 games or so since 2016, so I mean, like, I have no idea what Houston's getting out of wall, but I do think the Wizards need to be concerned about this part, Fred Katz from the um he's a beat writer for the Wizards and for the athletic.
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Here's what Fred Katz said.
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Bradley, Bill told.
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I guess told the media.
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It's been an emotional week, definitely been tough.
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The last 24 48 72 hours, just kind of letting letting it off seep in and realizing your brother is no longer here with you.
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He's gone off to something better.
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He's gone off to something better.
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I don't know if that's Bill taking a shot at the Wizard's, because if it is, the Wizards got a problem you could take.
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You know, look so you could take it both ways and that that was a shot.
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It is a problem, but if it wasn't not, it wasn't a shot.
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I think he's putting this situation to where he's give him praise and he's so showing support for John Wall because I really think I really do feel as if the brother really wants to play really feels if you know and he can't play and I really feel as if that, uh, you know, mentally he wanted, like prices himself is one of the best point guards in the league.
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all right, so and that's the competitive nature of the game.
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So he sees that, and and and it hasn't really been that great.
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Just like you said, you went through the stats.
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Alex and I had been, hasn't been the best that since 2000, 16 years and played.
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So maybe he does that and he says, Hey, this is somewhere where you can go.
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You can rebuild.
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You could start over, start fresh and, you know, you never know Sky's the limit, but it just wasn't It just wasn't the best fit in Washington for him anymore.
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If it wasn't a shot at the Wizards franchise, have either of you been to Houston like, was it a shot at at the city of D.
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C versus Houston, the city of Houston? I was born in Houston.
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So yeah, I've been I you know, I think it might have been, you know, for walls, particular situation.
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It could have been just a better situation for him and not necessarily ah, shot at the organization as a whole.
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But maybe just for John Wall's situation for himself, because they've they've been John Wall has been involved in in trade talks for for quite some time.
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You know, I think it's been at least a couple of years.
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Him and Bradley build together.
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At least a conversation was started.
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At some point, you're gonna have to get rid of one of them.
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Which one is it gonna be? And, you know, with with Walls issues with his availability, this has probably been something that's been it's been lingering over his head for quite some time.
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And it could be just maybe there's some type of closure to this situation for wall.
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Maybe that's what he was alluding to rather than it being a shot of the organization.
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But I don't know.
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I don't know because, you know, Bill might have said that, but he also said that he was excited that Rust was on his way.
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This so you know, they're gearing up for the season.
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I it doesn't I don't think they don't sound like anybody's unhappy, but just, you know, we all got some closure to his situation, at least temporarily.
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And uh, yeah, that's probably what he's really well, we are.
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So I think we all agree that D C.
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Will compete for a playoff spot.
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But Houston Houston was the four seed last year, and Wall has barely played the last four years.
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Uh, is Houston still in the playoffs this year? That So let's say Wall is either is, you know, working his way back.
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We're still dealing with injuries.
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Is James Harden good enough to still get Houston and the playoffs by himself this season? Gonna help? Anywhere he's gonna he's gonna need some help.
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And just to throw out the teams the Lakers, the Clippers, the Nuggets, the Thunder, the Jazz, the Mavericks, the Blazers, the sons, the Grizzlies, New Orleans, you didn't you just named five teams that I don't I don't see them competing against if you don't even if you have James Harden.
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So three of those three of those teams weren't even in the playoffs last year.
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The sons, the Kings, the Warriors.
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I think they've all got better the pelicans to I think they all got better.
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Um, yeah, that's it's gonna be tough, but I mean harden hardness.
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Look, they still have good players.
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They still have good players on their roster.
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But once once hardened goes, I think that's, uh it depends on when he goes.
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If Harden sticks it out, you know? Hey, finishes the season in Houston.
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They I still think that they could be a playoff team.
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Um, I mean, even if Wallace is half the player that he is I mean, they were still a good team without Russell Westbrook, so I don't I don't put them as the contenders.
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I thought they would have been last year, but they will make the playoffs.
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Well, well, you know what? Let me take that back at all.
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The teams that we just listed those those teams got significantly better.
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E don't know, man.
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Good luck.
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You do you think? What are the odds that hardened finishes the season in Houston? E He loves the strip clubs there.
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Right? So that's one reason to stay.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he could go to strip clubs anyway, though, you know, Hey, probably got a cousin, some strip clubs in Houston.
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But, I mean, he can I say the odds. Maybe.
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Maybe Slim.
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They don't get him some help.
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I mean, yeah, if he if he's pushing Thio be moved, and he's asking them to trade him now, they need to go ahead and try to do that.
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as soon as possible.
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I think hanging on to him.
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Um, while he's like that, it's not.
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It's not beneficial Thio either party.
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So if Harden is indeed pushing for a trade e think it gets done.
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Uh, this season during the season, he doesn't finish in Houston.
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He's got two years left on his contract, I think.
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And, e you know, if he had one year left, he could certainly force his way out.
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E mean, you mentioned earlier.
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Brandon seems like the team he wants to go to is is ah, is the net there have been talks at the Warriors, placed a call to Houston and discuss the trade.
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Uh, I mean, look, Steph Curry even clearly playoff ball.
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But what do you do if the Warriors could Could somehow pull off a trade for Harden? Do you like to fit with him on that squad? Oh, uh, left Draymond.
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Yeah, I play is gonna be going for a season.
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Yeah, I mean, that's a great shoe. And that's a great ally.
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Wants a shoeing because James Harden snowshoeing, thio anybody in the league.
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But except for LeBron, but, um e that I mean, that's a great piece is you already know they don't have, you know, plays not coming.
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He's not gonna be playing.
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This is the season they got uber if they tried out on the court.
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Steph, you bray Harden Wiseman Draymond, you probably you probably have to give up.
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I would say you have to give up Wiseman and uber right to get harden true eso they do it Well, a question.
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How do you do it? I mean, look, if I'm going to state, I probably do it.
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I would probably do it.
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I mean, because Harden Harden getting Harden and, uh and stuff together, man, that that's killer.
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But I mean, e mean, you gotta do what you gotta dio I think Golden State really is strong with what they have now I don't It wouldn't be I'd have to really think about it because it wouldn't be like a like Oh, yeah, I'm definitely pulling the trigger on that.
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I mean, because I mean, yeah, Wiseman, you don't know what he's gonna be, But I mean, he's a big man with a lot of skill.
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I mean, he's got he's got the skill set to be a superstar, and I think uber, uber the same thing.
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Eso I mean, you're looking at you looking at trade.
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Not just too good players, but also your future for for for right now.
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Um, that would be tough.
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That would be tough.
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Well, I don't know how it shapes out.
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It's gonna be interesting season, no matter what.
00:13:00
Um, so I want to jump to this Clippers article or clippers scandal.
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However, you decided to look at it.
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The athletic surprisingly dropped this article earlier in the week.
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Um, discussing the chemistry issues that helped derail the clippers out will run.
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You know, before the season a lot of people picked them or the bucks.
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You know, my Lakers weren't necessarily the favorites by a lot of people out there, but the Clippers, um, we're certainly one of the favorites.
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And this article man detailed some of the issues that were going on internally with the Clippers this year.
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And just to highlight a few of those things, um, you know, there were players were upset that Kawhi Leonard and Paul George were allowed to have their own personal security and trainers um, Leonard and Paul George had the power over the team's practices travel schedule, and Leonard canceled several practices.
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Um, on his own.
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Hey was allowed Quiet was allowed to live in San Diego and commute to L.
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A, which it's a three hour drive.
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But even if you're taking a helicopter or a jet, it's, you know you're not in L. A.
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But that calls several team flights to be late.
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Um, then quiet.
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You know, superstars usually have to talk to the media.
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Well, co I and Paul George would typically wait 45 minutes to talk to the media, forcing their teammates to do it first and their teammates to take the brunt of questions after losses and things like that.
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Um, then there was this, reported that cool.
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I would hey commandeered the female locker room at Staples Center and, you know, women would have to, you know, women who needed to change.
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The female staffers of the Clippers who needed to change or use the restroom were not permitted to do so because, cool, I was using their locker room for his personal training sessions.
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It's a lot of stuff, man Uh, and then Paul George went on a podcast the other day and basically said Doc Rivers was trying to use him like JJ Red**** and through Doc Rivers under the bus.
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Uh, if you recall Paul George used to date Doc Rivers daughter and cheated on her with a stripper and got the stripper pregnant.
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So there's a lot of things that went down with this Clippers team.
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But, you know, are you surprised that there were all these internal issues require and Paul, George and the rest of the Clippers team It's L A E.
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It's a magical city, you know? So, uh, at the same time, I'm Wow, that's the case.
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I'm not I'm not a big I'm not a big personal favoritism.
00:15:42
I'm not really big on that.
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You know, I understand that certain things come into play when you have these superstars and when you have a team to where you have to build some cohesiveness and you have ah, you know, you have players with he goes and somebody you know, when it comes to the pay scale, everybody is going to get what they may feel.
00:16:03
The next person should get well deserved, you know? Yeah, you know, whatever.
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That's just how it is.
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Everybody's gonna have their their opinions and things.
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But I'm just not big on favoritism.
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And if that's the case, if if there's things like that running rampant and the Clippers organization to the point where AH Superstar is literally using the women's bathroom to the point where they can't come in and they can't do what they need to do or the team other team, maybe they're being ostracized because this person is, you know, quote unquote superstar, then, yeah, that I don't I don't I don't like that.
00:16:38
I don't I don't agree with that.
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I don't agree with that at all.
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And look, I'm a Doc Rivers fan.
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I don't like anybody doing throwing Doc Rivers on the bus.
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I think I think he's a I think he's.
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I think he's a **** solid coach, even though you know you got no chips but still is a **** side of coach he got.
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We got that one out of Boston got, you've got some issues, but yeah, I mean, website that went out of Boston.
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Yeah, that's that's Boston whatever.
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But I just Then you got the whole Donald Sterling thing that came out some years ago with him being racist and well, I mean, are you kind of surprised? Hey, look, some of this stuff sounds a little like a stretch.
00:17:18
I mean, like Doc Rivers has the respect of of a lot of people in the NBA.
00:17:26
And, like, I agree corn like, I don't think like I'm not a fan of, like, favoritism, but, you know, as a coach, you know, there's certain things that make different place.
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Your players aren't all the same, you know, Um, so there is going to be you.
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Sometimes you are going to treat some players Not sometimes pretty much any time.
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You're gonna treat your players a little bit differently based on you know who they are.
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Um, and what makes him tick, But like like Hawaiian PG controlled practice schedule.
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Like how I This seems like a like with Doc Rivers coach.
00:18:03
So I mean, you trying to say, like, you know, we're gonna practice next week on Tuesday and Thursday.
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We ain't gonna practice on friday.
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Like, were they making those type of decisions? Like I don't know about that man.
00:18:15
Like who? I don't know.
00:18:18
Well, it just seems like a stretch.
00:18:23
Here's I think, part of it is.
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And you know, look, I'm biased.
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I'm a Lakers fan.
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So I am by e have to acknowledge that, uh, I think part of it is the Clippers spent millions of dollars running this campaign in L.
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A.
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This we over me campaign, which was a clear shot at the Lakers having two superstars and the Lakers stuff, and it was a clear shot on all season long.
00:18:48
People said, You know, all these things about the Clippers were actually gonna apply to the Lakers, and it didn't So I think, you know, there's a lot of hypocrisy going on.
00:18:56
Um, I also think that is ****ing for the Clippers.
00:19:00
When you have Trez go to the Lakers and John Michael Green go to Denver.
00:19:05
The two other top teams in the West, right and Tres had pointed out there were issues throughout the season.
00:19:12
But people were basically saying that Well, treasures just they were blaming trends for those issues and then but to Michael Green came out and said, You know, they asked him about him going to Denver, and he referenced the way that Denver moved the ball the way they played together as a team that's that's gotta be a shot at at the Clippers, and I think Star players are gonna get star treatment.
00:19:34
That's how it works.
00:19:35
And, frankly, they should.
00:19:36
But I do agree you can't have your star player living three hours away.
00:19:42
That's ridiculous.
00:19:43
And that, I mean, if it's affecting the travel schedule, yeah, but otherwise I don't really I don't really care.
00:19:52
I mean, how hard the Kobe live from From then, he usedto he took a helicopter.
00:20:00
Yeah, but he lived in Orange County, which is which is in Los Angeles.
00:20:04
He didn't live three hours away.
00:20:06
So that's what I mean.
00:20:07
And I mean, there's a basically, I think there's just like you can't do the off court chemistry building stuff if your star players three hours away, I think that's what they're talking about.
00:20:17
And I think y kind of guy that comes in and he comes in, and, uh, he punches his time clock.
00:20:25
He bust ass on the court and he goes home.
00:20:28
There's nothing out of that.
00:20:30
That's the kind of player I see.
00:20:31
They knew that, but they knew, but they knew that when they got CO I and to be honest with you.
00:20:35
That was wasn't that view.
00:20:37
That's kind of like a positive.
00:20:38
You bring in a guy with this supreme talent and he's not going to cause you any issues in the locker room.
00:20:43
He's gonna come.
00:20:44
He's gonna be a gym rat.
00:20:45
He's going to do his job now.
00:20:47
Now we bashing code for I don't know.
00:20:49
I just think so, Zach.
00:20:52
Now, that's that's like, I don't have you come in like you said.
00:20:55
You come in punch a time clock, you work hard.
00:20:58
You do what you gotta do.
00:20:59
Punch a time clock out by the time you're gone, you have other things to do in your life.
00:21:04
So you know, I'm in the greens to that.
00:21:07
Well, that shout out the Brian who's in the comments.
00:21:10
He's a beat writer for the Clippers, and he said, Oh, he has a penthouse across from Staples Center.
00:21:14
So he does have ah, place to stay across, um, Staples Center.
00:21:17
Uh, but I, uh, like and faras like like John Michael Green and Trees E trade.
00:21:27
What the hell else do you want, man? You got sixth man of the year.
00:21:30
You was getting the ball.
00:21:31
You was getting buckets s o they like, I don't know, some of this is.
00:21:36
I mean, they met, They lost, they lost.
00:21:38
So there, every team, every team, every team has issues like like, I'm pretty sure the lake has even had their issues throughout the not not this year with a S.
00:21:49
It was Kumbaya all year.
00:21:51
That's impossible.
00:21:52
It's humanly impossible.
00:21:55
You've got however many, however many people it in a safe space for for months at a time.
00:22:03
Oh, I'm pretty sure they had their arguments.
00:22:05
Here's the thing.
00:22:06
The thing with the Lakers is, as Shaq and Kobe showed us Lakers could be at each other's throats.
00:22:11
Or like LeBron and anti Davis showed be great together.
00:22:15
You know, love each other.
00:22:16
We still win.
00:22:17
Unfortunately, talking about you're comparing your comparing everybody else to the best players who've ever played the game like, Hey, baby, Shaq, LEBRON like there are no other players like them.
00:22:33
You're right.
00:22:35
The Lakers played the Lakers, paid big money for them, for I'm forced a but it's so but I So you think Do you think that the issues that the article raise or nothing, or do you think There's something going into the new season.
00:22:49
I think it's something you don't have.
00:22:51
When when there's smoke, there's fire.
00:22:53
That's always there's something.
00:22:54
There's something I want to be around, people around there.
00:22:58
They they're playing Lord various.
00:23:02
There's people going around that game of Thrones reference.
00:23:04
Yeah, yeah, you don't walk around and make all that money.
00:23:07
You don't have insiders and something like that comes out, it comes out for Lou, Williams said.
00:23:12
There were issues there, said they were trust issues.
00:23:15
I mean, I mean, things break down because they lost or maybe they lost because things broke down, who knows? But I mean, it sounds like they lost. They were upset.
00:23:27
They had high expectations had they won and made it to the finals.
00:23:31
I don't know if all of this stuff, when it came out, they probably would have blocked it out.
00:23:35
But I'm not saying there's no issues there.
00:23:38
What I'm saying is, I don't think yeah, I'm not sure if these issues are uncommon.
00:23:45
I mean, you have people working together, they're gonna have issues and you have a lot of high profile players playing together.
00:23:50
So when **** goes wrong, somebody gonna have a problem with some.
00:23:53
I should have got the ball.
00:23:54
Boy, You 1/6 man of the year.
00:23:56
You're not the best player of the team.
00:23:58
You 1/6 man of the year.
00:23:59
What more do you want? How much more do you are we supposed to go to you? Now? You? The first option, like some stuff, is just like, yo, we lost and they upset and they moved on Thio situations that they fell a better.
00:24:12
Oh, that's just That's just what I see.
00:24:16
I think she wants a ring, and he came to the right place.
00:24:20
Hey, probably more money to, you know, He could have got more from Charlotte.
00:24:27
Charlotte offered him more money.
00:24:28
Um, than the Lakers did.
00:24:30
Or could, But so So Okay, just real quick with the Clippers off from or to the Clippers off from peanuts over.
00:24:38
I don't I don't know, Brian.
00:24:40
If you're If you're still in a chat, man, what did the Clippers offer? Tries anything to come back? Brian said nothing.
00:24:46
So okay or deny.
00:24:47
Even I feel president.
00:24:48
So I come back.
00:24:49
I'm six plum, sixth man of the year, and you wanna give me peanuts? No, I'm out.
00:24:53
I'm going somewhere.
00:24:54
If I gotta go across the street somewhere to a team that's gonna value me and I And I'm aware I could win a ring and you're gonna pay me.
00:25:00
I'm out. I'm going.
00:25:01
I'm taking my services elsewhere.
00:25:03
Sorry.
00:25:04
Sorry. Oh, yeah.
00:25:07
How could I s? I'm trying not to be biased because I'm a Lakers fan, man.
00:25:11
But, like, I feel like a lot of this was brought on because the Clippers were clearly taking shot that the Lakers all season long and not only the Clippers themselves, but, like just the national media, the national media talking about, you know, quiet Maurin, selfish than LeBron or Kobe is better than LeBron or the Clippers.
00:25:29
Or somehow they they're they're the team of L.
00:25:32
A. Like none of that stuff was true.
00:25:34
None of it.
00:25:35
And I feel like this.
00:25:36
The epic meltdown losing the Denver the way they lost the Denver man that was ugly.
00:25:42
But again, Denver is is a good team.
00:25:44
And as far as like these these slogans, you know Ah, lot of that is the market is the marketing.
00:25:50
I mean, ****, if I was head of the marketing department.
00:25:54
I would have did the same thing, too.
00:25:55
Man, we're about to make money.
00:25:56
We about to make this a l A Lakers verse clippers thing to to power teams in the same city like I didn't You didn't see co I going out there saying, you know, we're gonna bust the Lakers ass today like it wasn't him saying that he did do.
00:26:09
He did that new balance commercial saying that he was like the King of L.
00:26:12
A or something like that was a clear shot at LeBron E Z.
00:26:19
Like even even even Brian said the marketing was like It is entertainment very much so.
00:26:25
But like one franchise at the time had 16 championships and could arguably put together the greatest all time team versus the NBA, like right? So the marketing department for the Clippers felt that they had to talk **** to be heard, and it backfired s Oh, yeah, you got to come with a different angle this year.
00:26:44
You can't come in talking ****.
00:26:46
You got your ass B.
00:26:47
But what I'm trying to say is that it wasn't like it wasn't Doc Rivers going around talking **** it wasn't why going around talking **** did so that they did ask Doc about load management earlier in the season.
00:27:02
And they asked him, What did he think the Lakers load management would be? And Doc said, whatever LEBRON wants it to be, And then this article came out, Hawaii could dictate when practices were when he played Paul George could do it.
00:27:15
And so you're saying LeBron could do it on the Lakers in? Meanwhile, your star players are really doing it on your end.
00:27:22
Doc was talking **** to and Doc, Doc has one championship with the Celtics and they pretend that that championship is like three.
00:27:30
I'm sorry.
00:27:31
I'm sorry.
00:27:32
He talked a little issue.
00:27:33
That's what Earlier when I was saying E ship was like, Yeah, I totally I totally disregarded the chip that he got in Boston and because because because Andrew Bynum was hurting, they wouldn't have one of Andrew Bynum was healthy.
00:27:48
I'm saying I get it now.
00:27:51
I didn't put two and two together.
00:27:52
Doc Rivers was the coach of the Celtics the last time you guys had a dynasty and you was talking ****.
00:27:58
And now Doc Rivers is the head coach of the clip.
00:28:01
I get it now I've I put to it to together.
00:28:04
I wonder why you want a dock so hard? Very nice.
00:28:08
Doc was talking ish.
00:28:09
Hey, did talk fish e mean s Oh, you know him? He's got Look, he's got Mawr three.
00:28:19
He's got more blown 31 lead than he does championships.
00:28:22
He has a blown 31 lead in, uh in Orlando, one in Boston and now one with the Clippers.
00:28:29
Like mhm.
00:28:30
Speaking of speaking of blown 31 leads, Let's talk.
00:28:33
Let's talk about the Knicks.
00:28:34
Now let's talk about how we're getting 33 free agents and and got Julius Randle.
00:28:39
That was way, Let's assed Brian alluded. It's actually, too.
00:28:46
He had to to blown 31 leaves the Clippers with the lob City Clippers.
00:28:52
So, with Doc, you had Tracy McGrady.
00:28:56
You didn't get a championship.
00:28:58
You only got one championship out of the Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett Ray Allen Trio.
00:29:03
You didn't get a ring with the live city trio and then you lost with Quiet and Paul.
00:29:07
George, I mean, like, yo Okay, yeah, some of the best players in their primes, it only got one championship, but on the people.
00:29:16
And but his competition had better players.
00:29:18
Exactly what I was gonna point out.
00:29:20
Like it wasn't like he was playing.
00:29:21
He's playing against, like, literally the best players on the against the world like he was playing against.
00:29:26
Like I mean LeBron James.
00:29:29
I mean, yeah, Kobe and Shaq did.
00:29:31
I mean I mean, yeah, he squeezed that one, that one ship out of his ass, and he had Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and and he just squeaked out of that one.
00:29:43
I mean, come on.
00:29:45
We gotta give it to him, man.
00:29:46
You got to give it to him.
00:29:47
He got todo I didn't.
00:29:48
Didn't they bust your ass in the elimination game? I mean, it was it wasn't I'm just saying the sense of, you know, the time he's been in the league.
00:29:56
Thio you know where he needs to go to.
00:29:58
You know, Thio particularly get a ring like it took him.
00:30:01
That man took him that long, So I think that I think that he's overrated as a coach.
00:30:07
That's what That's how I look at it.
00:30:08
He's a championship coach, but like e think He's overrated.
00:30:14
I e No, we went on a bit of a tangent.
00:30:17
I don't know where you rank him all the time in terms of coaches or where he ranks right now in the league.
00:30:21
But, like Doc, Doc is overly celebrated for that one championship.
00:30:29
That's how I see it.
00:30:30
Wow.
00:30:32
Like, do you think he's better than Erik Spoelstra? Hell, yeah.
00:30:36
What? Come on. Yo.
00:30:39
And Eric supposed Where did that team you are? You, like, Really? Now look, Brandon, where he's at now event and where he's got I mean, where he's at now.
00:30:46
And when he took the heat.
00:30:49
Great job.
00:30:50
Great job sticking through the fire.
00:30:54
When? When All the when. All when? LeBron.
00:30:56
When? When Bosch left.
00:30:57
When? When? You know Dwyane Wade all that great job, man.
00:31:01
And you know what is he? Tyler's got one ring.
00:31:05
Is he better than Ty Lue? Yeah, I would put him above tired.
00:31:10
I would hire Doc before tile.
00:31:12
Ooh, e.
00:31:15
I'm just I'm used to Phil Jackson, so I just You know, I'm saying your pedestal is up here.
00:31:24
Your You know what? Your legs guys, so like, you all have a great man so e. I understand.
00:31:29
I get it.
00:31:30
Well, that Spoelstra and Doc Rivers that that one's got me thinking, man.
00:31:35
Suppose got what? Suppose got three, right? No, Riley got that one in five.
00:31:40
How many supposed got to? Well, I'll be honest with you.
00:31:43
I don't just look at champ.
00:31:45
I mean, I don't just look at championships.
00:31:48
I look at, like the way they coach are they getting the most out of their players, You know, the rosters that they have, you know? So you don't think Doc underachieve with that lob city team? They were.
00:32:02
They were good before, before Golden State became a juggernaut and they failed.
00:32:09
They just had again.
00:32:12
They just weren't.
00:32:13
I mean, it was a good team.
00:32:14
They compete.
00:32:15
They were one of the better teams, but they just weren't the best team.
00:32:19
They didn't have the best talent.
00:32:21
Golden State, like I mean, this flat, the splash brothers like I mean, it was, you know, I mean, they they had it, you know, like it was.
00:32:30
It's kind of with no comparison.
00:32:32
They had good.
00:32:33
I mean, they have good players and during that time with dark had, But I mean you know you got warriors, Brian through one out.
00:32:40
Is Doc better than Rick Carlisle? Mm.
00:32:47
Right now, the first to you on this one? Yeah.
00:32:50
I mean, I don't think you I think that's a That's more of an opinionated questions for me.
00:32:59
I don't I don't You know, I think, Dr E.
00:33:04
I think Carl, I was a great coach.
00:33:06
I think you know what he did with Dallas Carlyle.
00:33:09
I mean, that was very impressive.
00:33:11
I mean, are you? What's his name? Another name? Well, I don't know Larry Brown, because because I'm trying to think back to championships that were won by teams where I felt the other team had more talent and the underdog team was just being So you know, Coach, just so you know, they had great coaching, but that's like Larry Brown is Definitely.
00:33:36
I think he's a Hall of Fame coach.
00:33:38
I don't know, man.
00:33:39
Carlisle and Doc Rivers.
00:33:40
I think I think you'll have a good team.
00:33:43
If you hire either coach, neither one was going to guarantee you a championship e mean ****.
00:33:49
Carlos Carlos got some ****.
00:33:51
Dallas got some talent.
00:33:54
Yeah, they do that that they dio Brandon, you brought up the Knicks.
00:33:58
Do you want to spend a few minutes talking about the Knicks? No, no.
00:34:02
Let's go on to, uh, I'm not ready yet.
00:34:05
I'll say this.
00:34:06
I I am excited with for the young talent that we have.
00:34:09
Um, I want to see who the hell we tried out there.
00:34:13
They as point guard.
00:34:15
No, I want to see who's the point guard by the end of the season.
00:34:17
I don't really care who is the point guard.
00:34:18
The beginning of season.
00:34:19
Who's the point guard by the by the end of the season, all right? I don't know, man.
00:34:25
Still don't know why you didn't make a play for for us.
00:34:28
But we did.
00:34:29
We did. We just weren't giving up.
00:34:31
We weren't giving up the house like they wanted us to and which I think was a smart move so far.
00:34:39
Sucks for them. Good for us.
00:34:41
Yeah.
00:34:43
Yeah, The ones is better than the Knicks.
00:34:45
The Wizards are better than the Knicks.
00:34:49
Well, let's let's jump the NFL, pick him, and I'm going to defer to Brandon toe lead this lead the show because I don't know a whole lot about the NFL these days, so, uh oh, yeah.
00:35:01
Hey, I see Mikey in the comments.
00:35:03
Hey, Mikey, log on real quick.
00:35:05
You could be in the comment.
00:35:07
You could be on the show.
00:35:09
Right? Right, Right.
00:35:10
I can't do it.
00:35:12
All right.
00:35:16
Yeah.
00:35:17
Anyway, anyway, we've got some pretty good games this week.
00:35:21
Week 13 in the NFL.
00:35:22
Sorry we didn't bring week 12 to y'all.
00:35:24
They, Mike and Kwon needed to break for me Busting.
00:35:27
They asked for the past, What, five weeks in a row? So we'll let you get that, bro.
00:35:35
We'll let you get back.
00:35:36
You let me get that.
00:35:38
Oh, man.
00:35:39
Let's see.
00:35:40
A week 13.
00:35:42
Let's see what we got.
00:35:43
We 13.
00:35:44
Well, right now, I guess I should have pulled.
00:35:48
Pulled the graphic.
00:35:49
Right now I'm up three on Mikey and I'm up 10 on you. Kwon.
00:35:53
I've got 88 W's.
00:35:54
Mikey's got 85.
00:35:56
You've got 78.
00:35:57
So this is a big week for you, kwon, but I'm gonna leave you guys further in the dust, so let's go ahead and get started.
00:36:03
Uh, first game I guy here I at the Cleveland Browns at the Tennessee Titans.
00:36:10
Kwon who you got? I got Tennessee.
00:36:14
10 a key, baby.
00:36:15
21 Brown's 14.
00:36:18
It's gonna be a great game to two of the best Russian attacks Office.
00:36:22
Be good.
00:36:25
Yeah, actually, you are right.
00:36:27
Kwan, These are the number one and number two Russian teams.
00:36:32
Um, in the NFL.
00:36:34
Uh, next up we got we got Vegas at the at the Jets.
00:36:42
00 man.
00:36:43
Who you got? Kwan.
00:36:45
Raiders 21 Jets three, Raiders 21 Jets three.
00:36:51
Okay, okay, I got I pick the jets in this one.
00:36:56
E a Bailey.
00:37:01
If you're watching my bad bro, Um, e Well, a couple of reasons.
00:37:06
Uh, I'll keep this quick.
00:37:09
Um, Jacobs is out.
00:37:11
So he's not running the ball, and Vegas is reeling a little bit, So I had I pick the jets to win.
00:37:18
Um, next up, Jacksonville at Minnesota.
00:37:22
Who you got? Kwan.
00:37:23
Hold on.
00:37:24
Hold on.
00:37:25
Before you go quiet before you go, Brandon, Mike is dropping his picks, his scores, and, uh okay, Okay. My bad.
00:37:31
OK, Mike's got Tennessee went in 32 24 he's got Vegas.
00:37:35
He's got Vegas 28 14 way Got Jacksonville at Minnesota.
00:37:41
Who you got I got many.
00:37:42
21 Jack 17.
00:37:45
Okay, Parker, Parker's got Minnesota 24 17.
00:37:49
And I have Minnesota as well.
00:37:52
28 14.
00:37:55
Uh, next up, we've got Cincinnati at Miami.
00:37:59
Who? You got? Corn? 21 Dolphins.
00:38:03
Bengal seven.
00:38:04
No borough? No girl.
00:38:08
I tell you what.
00:38:09
After watching the Bangles in the Giants game last week, I gained a little respect for Cincinnati.
00:38:14
They they're not winning a lot of games, but they're not actually bad.
00:38:17
But I still got him losing.
00:38:19
I still got him losing Miami.
00:38:21
I got Miami 24 17.
00:38:23
Mike has got Miami as well.
00:38:24
26 17.
00:38:27
Next up, we've got the Indianapolis Colts at the Houston Texas.
00:38:31
Kwan, what you got? I'm going with the Coast.
00:38:34
23 Texans, nine **** colts anymore.
00:38:40
You're not I'm not going to get, But you're not going against the Colts.
00:38:44
Okay? Okay, okay.
00:38:47
Yeah, they're they're defense.
00:38:48
Is is serious, but, you know, it's just something about him.
00:38:51
But I do have him winning this game.
00:38:52
28 20 for Mikey's got India's well, 26 21.
00:38:58
Next up, we've got the Detroit lines at the Chicago Bears.
00:39:02
Dub bears.
00:39:03
Who you got going now I am betting against the Lions because they suck.
00:39:08
I'm not going anymore when he comes to match, Nephew.
00:39:11
Hey, needs to go.
00:39:13
He's done.
00:39:14
Lions nine Bears 21.
00:39:17
Yeah, everything.
00:39:18
You put the smaller school in front of the larger one.
00:39:21
That throws me off a little bit, but he's got Chicago with it.
00:39:23
I agree with you.
00:39:24
Quite have to see if anybody who saw Detroit play Thanksgiving or at least just saw the score was like, No, I can't I can't put no money on them.
00:39:33
Dudes, No more Chicago 21 2021 17.
00:39:37
I got them winning, Mike.
00:39:39
Holy moment, Mike.
00:39:41
Mike, after watching the lines on Thanksgiving, picks them to beat Chicago 17 to 16, I guess because he just doesn't trust Robiskie.
00:39:50
That Chicago office does look pretty bad.
00:39:52
And Alan Robinson is not playing, so hey, might get one there. We'll see.
00:39:58
Next up.
00:39:59
We've got the Saints at Atlanta.
00:40:02
What's up, Quan? I got them.
00:40:04
I got them.
00:40:05
Who? That boy is winning 23 against them Falcons from dirty board from Dirty Birds.
00:40:11
17.
00:40:13
Okay, okay.
00:40:14
Okay.
00:40:15
I got something similar here. I have the Saints winning as well.
00:40:17
27 24 might say, Did y'all watch? Chicago gets Green Bay.
00:40:23
Good point.
00:40:26
Touche.
00:40:27
Touche.
00:40:28
I got the Saints win in 27 24 in Atlanta.
00:40:33
Mike's got Atlanta pulling this one out tight game 24. 23.
00:40:37
I could I could see it going that way as well.
00:40:40
Um, next up.
00:40:43
Uh huh.
00:40:44
Come on, Giants.
00:40:46
We have the New York football giants at Seattle.
00:40:50
Uh, Daniel Jones is doubtful.
00:40:53
Which really hurts my heart.
00:40:55
Twan who you got? I got Seattle and I got Seattle.
00:41:00
Went in 23.
00:41:02
And I'm just because we're brothers, I'm gonna give you 14 points with the Giants.
00:41:08
You know what, Kwan? I will.
00:41:10
You almost picked the exact same score I picked.
00:41:12
I, unfortunately picked see out on the win this game 23 to 15.
00:41:17
Um, e mean Colt McCoy.
00:41:20
We saw him in Washington, and we saw him last week when he subbed in for Daniel Jones.
00:41:25
Holy ****.
00:41:26
We're in trouble.
00:41:28
Uh, Mike Scott, Seattle is well, 24 17.
00:41:32
Come on, come on, Coat.
00:41:33
This is the biggest game of your life.
00:41:37
Uh, next up, we got the los Angeles Rams at the Arizona Cardinals.
00:41:43
Kwon who you got? Oh, that's a good one.
00:41:46
That's a good one.
00:41:47
That's Ah, and it's in rivalry.
00:41:50
Uh, and rivalry game.
00:41:52
So I'm gonna go with go with the Rams.
00:41:57
Um, yeah, yeah.
00:42:02
21.
00:42:03
Uh, I'm you didn't think this one through before we went live.
00:42:11
You missed.
00:42:14
You missed this one.
00:42:16
Um, all right, well, you got the rams winning.
00:42:19
Alright, Alright, because right now you're just throwing out numbers.
00:42:23
Okay? Kwan's got the rams.
00:42:24
I got the Ramses.
00:42:25
Well, Kwan good ****ysis without doing ****ysis.
00:42:29
Uh, 24.
00:42:31
23 is what? I had them winning one point.
00:42:34
A close game.
00:42:36
Uh, Mike.
00:42:39
Mike Who you got? Yeah.
00:42:42
Did you not do your pick either? You got a 5431 Okay, we're moving on.
00:42:50
All right.
00:42:51
Next up, we've got New England at the Los Angeles Chargers.
00:42:57
You got, uh, I got in the New England Patriots 14 10, 14 to 10.
00:43:07
That sounds like a ****ty game.
00:43:08
I have New England winning as well.
00:43:10
25.
00:43:11
24.
00:43:12
Mike, you said you posted your rams, uh, Arizona pick.
00:43:17
I don't see it in the chat anyway.
00:43:22
Mike's got the charges went in 21 20 Mike Poster poster Rams Arizona game again because I don't see it in the chat anyway.
00:43:32
Let's move on.
00:43:36
Next up.
00:43:37
Oh, yeah.
00:43:38
I can't wait for this game because I can't wait to see them lose.
00:43:40
We have the Philadelphia bagels.
00:43:43
I mean, eagles at the Green Bay Packers.
00:43:47
Kwon Who? You got Packers 28 Eagles 14.
00:43:52
I am.
00:43:53
You know, we on point. You know, I almost had the same score.
00:43:55
Pack is 28 Philly 17.
00:43:59
Let's go, Green Bay.
00:44:00
Do what you're supposed to do.
00:44:03
All right, Uh, Parker, Parker's got Green Bay 28. 14.
00:44:14
All right, all right.
00:44:16
Yeah, way.
00:44:17
All seem to have Green Bay beating up on Philly by at least two possessions this week.
00:44:22
Next, we got Denver at K C.
00:44:25
What you got, Kwan? I mean, way all got a king.
00:44:27
See, I'm pretty sure, but go ahead.
00:44:29
Yeah.
00:44:30
Casey, 28 Denver 10.
00:44:34
Yeah, I got something similar.
00:44:35
I got k c 38 16 e notice rivalry game, but, you know, like, ah, okay.
00:44:48
My scat KHD 33 14 them a I don't know.
00:44:54
Denver. Denver might shut me up this week.
00:44:56
We'll see.
00:44:57
All right.
00:44:58
Um, this one, this next one actually is an interesting game for me.
00:45:01
Washington football team at the Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:45:06
Kwon who you got historically, we don't do well on Monday nights.
00:45:12
We just don't.
00:45:13
We are horrible on Monday nights, and we have the Steelers who's undefeated.
00:45:17
Mhm.
00:45:18
But I'm gonna go with my boys, man.
00:45:20
I'm gonna go with my boys, man. I'm gonna go.
00:45:22
Washington 23 Pittsburgh 17.
00:45:29
Can I just say that I went back and forth on this one? Y'all I I initially picked y'all toe win, but I have since changed my answer.
00:45:41
But I can see all win in this game.
00:45:43
I don't know.
00:45:44
I replayed the game in my head and Chase Young was given Ben Roethlisberger A lot of fits, but I didn't.
00:45:52
I did pick Pittsburgh.
00:45:54
Um, hopefully, this is a common sense picked, but I picked them to win 22 19.
00:45:59
Mike who you got, bro.
00:46:03
Pittsburgh 27 to 10.
00:46:05
Mike said bump that their their pass rush change nothing.
00:46:08
You know what made me switch? The Pittsburgh was I was like, You know what? They have a pretty good, **** good pass rush that themselves.
00:46:16
So maybe Alex Smith struggles a little bit more than Rob Pittsburgh.
00:46:19
One of the pass rushers has done for the season.
00:46:21
But he's out.
00:46:22
So you still got I mean, he's out.
00:46:24
He's out T j coming out there, you know? And e mean, I think Stefan to I don't know if he's playing, but I mean that that that that defense is stellar.
00:46:35
So it's I mean, it's gonna be a hard one, but we'll see without Dupri.
00:46:41
Hopefully for you guys.
00:46:42
Gibson gets off a little bit because Dupri is very good verse to run. Anyway.
00:46:47
Next game Buffalo at San Francisco.
00:46:50
Who you got going? Buffalo 22 Niners nine.
00:46:55
****! Okay, I went Buffalo Aziz.
00:46:58
Well, 25 23.
00:47:01
Parker, man, just type your next to scores, man.
00:47:05
Buffalo 24 17.
00:47:08
Buffalo Park has got Buffalo 24 17.
00:47:12
Okay, All right.
00:47:13
Next up.
00:47:14
Last game.
00:47:15
Uh, here we have a way of Dallas at Baltimore.
00:47:22
Oh, man.
00:47:23
Have we had this matchup in week one or two? There'd be a lot of **** talking.
00:47:27
You know, we're going to the Super Bowl this week, Week 13.
00:47:31
I think both fan bases are like, Yo, I give up and they don't give a ****. So who you got? Kwan.
00:47:39
I'm gonna go with the home team.
00:47:40
I'm gonna go with Baltimore 21 Cow.
00:47:43
I'm sorry.
00:47:44
Cowboys 10 17 to 10.
00:47:48
21 21 10, 21 10 Ravens.
00:47:54
Okay.
00:47:55
All right.
00:47:56
Um, Thistle is an interesting score.
00:48:00
I did this late last night, so I might have been sleepy.
00:48:03
I pick the cowboys toe win.
00:48:04
Wow, you must have been on.
00:48:06
Um no does.
00:48:07
Excuse me.
00:48:09
I'm sorry, but check the score that I put down here 27 to 13.
00:48:12
E must have been nosing off, but I was stick with it, because if I'm right, I would be like I told John.
00:48:22
Anyway, Mike, who you got be more 27 17? That'll probably will probably be the score.
00:48:27
I don't know why I picked out to be honest with you, but we'll see what happens anyway.
00:48:31
That wraps up this week's edition off NFL picking with otr again.
00:48:37
I'm winning by a lot.
00:48:39
I'll probably be winning by a lot after this week, but we'll continue and see what happens next week? Alex? Take it away, NFL man.
00:48:50
Great show, fellow.
00:48:53
I think we all had a lot of fun on this one.
00:48:56
I certainly enjoy here, and you guys go back and forth, NFL, even though I don't follow it.
00:49:00
Very, very funny Commentary.
00:49:04
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