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00:00:00
you with the BCB podcast number 121.
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So glad to be back with you guys this evening.
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And I am very happy to be joined by Bo STS over here.
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He is one of the great voices of MBA TV MBA dot com The pioneer of the infamous um, top 10 rapid fire, which I do want to ask Bo about here in a second here once we get into the podcast.
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But both so glad to have you on and so glad to continue the kind of trend I have going here with NBA TV personalities here had *** Smith on last week.
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He was fantastic.
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So excited to keep the trend going here with you and diamond too little ball this evening.
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I'm excited to be here sake who's a good buddy of mine, and we always enjoy talking hoops.
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Say good night. She's weak.
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We can get on a conversation and talk for hours and hours and hours and, you know, years years ago, that wasn't podcasting, but we should have been podcasting years ago.
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This but yeah, I'm thrilled to join you.
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Yeah, I'm glad to have you here on.
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I have to point out, since the people that are watching this podcast see the sports business classroom banner behind you all here was one of the great voices as well for sports business classroom.
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So if anybody is watching, that's alumni like me of the program know him very well.
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It's a fantastic work with the ask me anythings and all those conversations we had with some of the great people in the basketball industry.
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MBA atmosphere.
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So another accomplishment here for Bo.
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He is definitely one of celebrities here.
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If you know anything about basketball in the NBA, definitely got to get to know this guy.
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He knows his stuff, he's he has a great voice.
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So now that it's all the way here, But I wanna ask you here because I saw on your Twitter feed you have a little post here pinned at the top.
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So apparently you want people to know about this and read your story.
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But if you could just a little short summary for us here, Um, some of the tips minute interview here with Tim Cotto that you did a few years ago about the top 10.
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What can you tell us here about the rapid fire Top 10 and how that came to be and how you became so well known for that kind of trademark as we know it to be a dot com.
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It's weird because it was never something that I set out to be known for.
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Honest to God, it was It was something that sort of happened organically.
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The reason that I started saying Top 10 faster and faster or was really just because we had crap software to be a dot com at the time, Honest to God.
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And so what happens? And this is a little bit technical, but if your audience can follow along, you haven't in and out point, and typically they allow me as somebody doing the voiceover to talk beyond the out point.
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But this software was having problems with that, so I knew that, and I would be aware that we would have to start all over if I didn't get out by the out time.
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So I would just be going along going along going along and realized I had two seconds I just say FBI, come top 10 just as fast I could just to get out as quickly as I could so we could all go home at two in the morning on day.
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Then it grew from there.
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Frankly, the MBA Red**** community was just wonderful to meet.
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People treated me really well on bond.
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The rhyming thing is something that I think I'm afflicted with more than something that I attempt to do.
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There's a there's a There's a condition called clanging that somebody from the Kenyan Literary Review suggests that I have where things, if I want them, Thio can just pop out in rhyme naturally, and the weird thing about it is like if you were to have a rap Olympics, I would imagine people with that condition would be disqualified.
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It's almost like being able to count cards in your head for gambling.
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It's it's the it's the equivalent of that.
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But you know, it's it's a fun thing.
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It's the wildest thing My dream is.
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A kid was to be an announcer for the MBA.
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I'm an announcer for the N B.
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A, and I'm known for something I couldn't have asked for.
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Maura's a kid growing up in and to have all this happened, I'm absolutely over the moon about it.
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And the n b a dot com Top 10 is something that we we do wonderful numbers on.
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We really do.
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So many people get involved.
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So many people love it.
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So many people send me notes.
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I've I've met people from around the world.
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I now dio top tens for the league in Australia, the NBL.
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So it's become a phenomenon.
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I mean, I I can imagine that, you know, I'll be doing even mawr for different leagues coming up soon.
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So I'm just so wonderfully thankful for the MBA fans and basketball fans around the world.
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That's so cool, Bow, and I'm sure I speak for the N B.
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A community myself when we say that we're glad to have.
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You have been watching NBS opportunity that for years and years, and you know you're one of the best in the business, so for sure, but to get into the formal content here today, we're discussing the five Christmas Day games that have been enough with a slate for this year, just so happy.
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First off, the happiest games in the first place.
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We didn't know it was gonna be a December start to the season or January, and the MBA on Christmas is a tradition.
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It's a schedule that every year we're so accustomed to seeing.
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So just so happy that MBA, you know, the players union and the owners were able to come together and make this possible for us to be able to get back before Christmas and have this late.
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But the first game I wanted to discuss here with you Bo, is the pelicans that he This is the 12 o'clock game to kick things off.
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And you know the first thing I have noticed about this game.
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It's like you have to look at the first team that's in this matchup, the pelicans.
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And there's one reason there in this matchup.
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That's because Zion Williamson, himself the number one pick from 2019.
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I think it's a soul presence here on this team that have made them ah, hot commodity and then they're here in this matchup and if we go back to last season, I don't think they got all their appearances in because of the hiatus.
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But they had 30 national TV game scheduled for the Pelicans out of 82 which didn't happen to be 82.
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But that's just an incredible number here.
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So just looking at this matchup, Xilin is on the schedule.
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The heater on the schedule, the heat might be getting slept on here a little bit, just looking at their performance last season.
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And they don't have any national TV matchups in the days leading up to this game.
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And they only have two preseason games at all.
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So, um, double question at you here, but I want to hit you.
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Just, uh, um, you know, Zion.
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Is he enough? You know, are you excited enough to see this matchup with Zion? If, um, you know him so slowly, driving their appearance on this end and then for Miami's sake, like, are they really being slept on here? Some people are saying the Rome is a fluke.
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Like, what are your thoughts on that? Okay, so two things.
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One, obviously Zion is the driver for the pelicans being on television, right? I don't think it's a surprise to anybody.
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And the reason you know this is take Zion off that team.
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Are they on National TV on Christmas.
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No, no chance World.
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No chance.
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So you know, he's a wonderfully exciting player.
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I've I've been around this game since the early nineties with the N B A.
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I've been I've been doing it since 1994 1995 ish something somewhere in there.
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And he's one of the 5678 players that you can think of when they come out.
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It's must see TV.
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You have to see him.
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You have to see what he's gonna dio.
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It was a bit disappointing last year, right, because we open up the season and he's not there.
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He's injured.
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And so, you know, we have the pelicans on TV without him on, and it's just not as good.
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It's just not as exciting.
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He is the person that people want two C s.
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Oh, I think I think that is the reason that they're there.
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I think you're 100% right on that.
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Are the heat getting slept on? Yeah, a little bit, right.
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There were the finalists from last year, and they were a good finalist.
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It wasn't a fluke that they were there.
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They just put together a team that isn't comprised of people that you knew of since they were 14 years old as superstar ballers like Zion.
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We knew when he was 15 years old.
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He had a million Instagram followers because of all the stuff he was doing.
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Uh, he comes there.
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There are people that come up in basketball and they're the number one ranked recruit their whole lives and they're superstars growing up. 14.
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Look, there's a kid name of Monte Bates.
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Who is that now? He is the guy that the whole world is looking at.
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Maybe the best prospect since LeBron James.
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He is the guy that they're building a generation on.
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So Zion is in that mold of people.
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Um, and the Miami Heat have guys who've worked their tails off frankly to be good at what they do, and on top of that, to fit into this modern game in a way that they can take advantage of what the rules are and of the style of play.
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And of that to me, that heat culture matters it ton to get the right guys to buy into that and to really play the defense that they require with the intensity and the constant attention that they require.
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So is that as exciting on television? For the And I hate to use the word casual fan, but that's what it is.
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Is the average fan.
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Maybe not. Maybe.
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You know, I'm to see Jimmy Jimmy Butler really dog somebody in the mid range on T isn't the most exciting thing in the world.
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But if you're a fan, if you're a fan of what he's put in in the career and you know sort of there the thing about Jimmy Butler to me is he really rubs some people the wrong way for a while and buy some people.
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I mean, teammates, right? Uh, but then he hit the heat, and it was perfect, Absolutely perfect.
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His home, they found their guy, and it was perfect.
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So I respect that and, you know, to the degree that if we're saying slept on as in, are we not giving them enough credit for the success they've had in anticipation of the success they might have? I think the answer is yes.
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Um, you know, Are they How many times the heat gonna be on my top 10 without Derrick Jones? Fewer.
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Fewer, right.
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your family on there.
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So I think, you know, you're you're looking at competing interests, right? Uh, quality of play versus entertainment factor? Definitely, Definitely.
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That's a balance.
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That's, you know, it's definitely noticeable.
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You know, you gotta do We really have to consider to audiences like you and me.
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We watched this game in a deep level.
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We study the game all the time everyday, but for the people on the outside, you said it.
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It's like certain styles of play or not very conducive to success on the big screen for ratings.
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And that's the whole talk. Right now.
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It's like ratings are sagging and there's things happening.
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So I think they looked at the schedule, and they really wanted to put those teams that have huge drawls even more than usual because we've seen in the past, the Knicks have gotten that kind of token spot just because they're the Knicks, and you know, that was just kind of the way it went.
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But now it's like let's find the draws like, you know, that he might have been one of those teams.
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It's like, you know, they're not a huge draw, but they're in the final so we have to give him a spot.
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We'll throw him at 12 o'clock when people are still waking up.
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You know I'll be in Denver for that time slot and you know, it's 10 a.
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m.
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Over there and people are still kind of waking up.
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And since stuff so they're like, you know, we could put that on the back burner.
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People will really notice.
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So you made some great points about that.
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It's really a man.
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It's really tough because the league doesn't survive without their television partners in the same way that they are now.
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The television partners have to have good ratings to justify those television contracts.
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So it all works together.
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It really does.
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Um, you know, in a perfect world, does every team generate huge ratings and every team has the same amount of buzz? Probably.
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But you know this.
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This is the world were operating in.
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And I think you know, I think that's an interesting matchup, too, because as much as you want to see Zion do what he's gonna dio, there's a team out there that's gonna stop sign from doing what he's gonna do, too.
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And that's why he That's what they're programmed to do.
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That's what they're born to. Dio. They're equipped.
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I can't wait to see Jimmy versus Zion.
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It's kind of like, Yeah, the unstoppable force Immovable object like Jimmy Butler is not an easy guy to move out of there, but is a train himself.
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So that's one of the matchups I can't wait to see.
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But overall like, yeah, just looking at that matchup on the court, it's gonna be super exciting for a multitude of reasons.
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Brandon Ingram is back in the fold with this Max deal.
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You know, he's got his money, he's been paid.
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He's one of those go to players, so they have a player of their own that's gonna be able to command that attention from the Heat.
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So he's gonna need somebody on him that could really contain him.
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So across the board, it's gonna be very interesting.
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Um, you know, without true holiday, it's gonna be a slightly different dynamic in the backcourt.
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But, I mean, there's a guy named Eric Blood, so that's gonna try to fill the void for him.
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So he's gonna be, you know, definitely a dog over there, and you know his shooting is suspect, but it's just another driver for that team that's gonna make these exciting.
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So from both sides, there's gonna be draws.
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It's gonna be a game that's gonna be fun to watch, even though it's, you know, 12 p.
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m. And it's one of the opener, so to speak.
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I think we end up like when you think about that matchup.
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The thing I think about is my immediate attraction.
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Is the pelicans air on offense, The heater on defense? How are the heat going to stop the pelicans and how are the pelicans gonna handle the intensity of the heat? But what you don't think about is so the heat expend a lot of energy on defense.
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So that's gonna force the pelicans to really play on offense to get anything done.
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Let's go back to the other end of the court, where the heat have some shooters, bond that's gonna force you to rotate and be ready outside that he could get a lot of easy buckets in that matchup to me.
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So I I think there's just I think that there, ah young team is going to require ah, large attention span to be able to keep up with what that veteran heat team does, Uh, to me, they're just They're just so good at exposing your weaknesses.
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Uh, it's they don't have Michael Jordan out there. They don't.
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But they do have smarts.
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They do have guts and people sort of like diminish the value of that.
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I think I think it's really credible.
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I think it's really valuable.
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Absolutely.
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And it's gonna be, uh, you know, it's gonna be a huge battle, but the pelicans gonna have a challenge on their hands.
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I mean, you kind of alluded to it.
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You know, the shooters from Miami, you're going to command a lot of attention.
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But the Pelicans aren't exactly a team that have done a great job off pay attention, paying attention to the defensive game plan every day, every game, going back to last season.
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They're one of the worst teams defensively.
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I think that's a major reason why did they even make the playoffs going into the bubble that finished two and six from last season to end their season? So it's just a bad taste in your mouth.
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But I think for that reason they're gonna have a slight chip on their shoulder going into this Christmas matchup.
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Losing Drew Holiday.
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Those guys have something to prove.
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Their brand has got something to prove now that he's the big, big man on campus, so to speak, because I am still there.
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So, yeah, I'm really excited for it.
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Not just because of the Heat van, but legitimately, because we have kind of like to almost contrasting styles.
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Tough knows defense.
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High flying highlight maker on the other end.
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So that's a great way to start off the day.
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And you'll be up at 10 AM in Denver, right? Absolutely, Absolutely no good to know about it.
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Yeah, couldn't miss that matchup.
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Eso Let's move on here and look at the second matchup of the day that I believe it's at 2 30 PM It's gonna be warriors bucks, man.
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You can't ask for a better matchup, especially in the second time slot here with Yannis staff.
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Even without Clay, you know, I'll kind of try to keep him out of this.
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You know, I mentioned played a second last week and, you know, he got him down a little bit, so definitely a tough break for him, But in any case.
00:16:03
I mean, it's gonna be great to see, and one key storyline I'm looking at is we go into this match up is how do the Warriors contain Milwaukee's attack the drive and kick, the incredible spacing? It's like the Bucks have something to offer that the Warriors have had in the past.
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The five out, all the spacing, the drive and kick game is gonna be on point the Warriors and not gonna have the same defensive identity.
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The head in the past, you know, dollars gone.
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Clay is gone.
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They don't have that bogey in the middle that they had.
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Um, you know, there's gonna be a lot of adjustments for them looking at it defensively, So that's that's huge.
00:16:40
They finished 26th in defensive efficiency last season, so we'll have to see what the Warriors can offer up when the Bucks are on the attack.
00:16:47
And there's a guy named Greek freak Yanis writing down the lane, ready to Duncan Currie, as he's done in the past.
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Go back, go back and watch that All star game from from a couple years ago.
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He knows that very well.
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Steph Curry, 12 MVPs in a row.
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Yannis is on two MVPs in a row.
00:17:01
Uh, this this is one of the marquee matchups to me.
00:17:04
Like if I were ranking them for the day.
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This may be number one, maybe number two.
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As far as just television eyes on it, Steph, coming back is huge.
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He has a massive, massive not to be underrated fan base.
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People love that guy.
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Him coming back is gonna be massive, but yeah, honest to me, boy, he's like I said twice.
00:17:26
The defending champ are defending M v P.
00:17:29
And I think he has more room to grow.
00:17:31
If that's even realistically possible, I think he gets better and better and better.
00:17:36
So it's gonna be fun.
00:17:38
Toe watch that progress for me.
00:17:40
I am fascinated with how the warriors deploy their new number one draft pick.
00:17:47
What sort of defensive responsibilities they assigned to him, how much pressure they allow him to take in that role.
00:17:54
Because, you know, does he guard you honest? Do you let him do something like that? Because you talk about you talk about like, a a challenge and be a potential ego blow on Ben too.
00:18:08
I think it's interesting for me, you know, watching staff working with Andrew Wiggins.
00:18:13
What did they play one game together last year? What is Andrew Wiggins do? Does he learn to be amore efficient player? Because, you know, the critique on his game is that he's not efficient enough.
00:18:22
I heard comments from him today, saying the one game I played with Steph it made the world so much easier because, you know, the term everybody loves on Twitter is gravity, the gravity that surrounds.
00:18:33
Yeah. So Wiggins is gonna have space.
00:18:36
He's gonna have room.
00:18:37
Can he do anything with that? Um, and then for Milwaukee, to me, that's a team that's twice been snake bitten in the playoffs two years ago.
00:18:45
They've they've gone out earlier than they should have gone out.
00:18:48
So what do they do to overcome that? Where they mentally? Because, remember, we've got a quick turnaround this year.
00:18:55
We were playing just a couple of months ago.
00:18:57
Eso where they mentally the lineup has changed a bit.
00:19:02
Um, I'm excited to see what that team does mentally, and I'm excited to see what Golden State has now because, like you mentioned the blow of clay losing clay humongous.
00:19:12
Where's Draymond green right now? Can he bring back the same defensive intensity? Can he be a stopper again like he once was? I'm skeptical of that.
00:19:21
Frankly, I don't know that he can, Um, I think he could be very good.
00:19:26
I don't know that he could be the best defender in the N B a. Again.
00:19:29
So I think there's just a lot of question marks that that will start to be answered in this game.
00:19:34
I'll be honest with you, Aaron, When I think of an MBA season normally, and I've said this for years on shows and radio shows and whatever, I start evaluating a team on Christmas Day like Christmas Day going forward.
00:19:47
I don't know what you have in the November 2 December early range.
00:19:52
I think people are sorting stuff out and learning about each other in their new teammates.
00:19:56
Maybe new coaches, new influences, what they've worked on over the summer s o.
00:20:00
It's gonna be tough for me because this is a little more condensed and I'm gonna have to adapt a little bit.
00:20:05
But I am excited to see sort of marquee teams going against each other and marquee stars coming back like Steph Andre.
00:20:13
Me too.
00:20:14
And speaking of dream on Green, I mean, I was looking at him last season.
00:20:16
He really looked disinterested, you know? He was on a clean that he knew he knew that team wasn't going anywhere.
00:20:22
So I think he really saved his body.
00:20:24
He really held himself back.
00:20:25
You didn't see that fire.
00:20:26
You didn't see him getting those technical fouls like usual.
00:20:29
You really just saw him kind of just fade into the background.
00:20:31
Just kind of accept what was happening.
00:20:33
Like, you still went out there and played e.
00:20:36
I mean, it wasn't the same dream on, you know, using cruise control.
00:20:39
I think he thrives on those peak moments, those pressure moments, those very difficult teams that they match up against.
00:20:49
I think that's where he thrives.
00:20:50
If it's a moment where you know there isn't a lot on the line, I don't think he's bringing his a game.
00:20:56
One thing I'd like to see a guy like that do in a situation like that is work on in game situations, things that you can improve upon eso I would like to see, you know, if he's developed anything new to his game.
00:21:10
The loss of clay is hard to overstate.
00:21:12
Man really is.
00:21:14
I mean, like that.
00:21:15
That guy is a guy that is right there with Steph in spacing the defense.
00:21:19
He's as good a pure shooter as I have ever seen his shot fundamentals to me right there with Ray Allen.
00:21:27
Put it in a book. It's a textbook.
00:21:29
It's just gorgeous to look at, so, you know, And that's just the start of clay Clay.
00:21:35
Not only that, he's a wonderful defensive player, and I think he's just a guy that brings a lot to the locker room.
00:21:40
Just a lot of chill.
00:21:42
So they're gonna miss him.
00:21:44
They're gonna miss him.
00:21:45
And, you know, like you started this season before the clay injury thinking, Can they get back and sc**** together another title with this? That with the squad? I don't think they're a title team now.
00:21:55
I really don't want the pieces they have in place.
00:21:56
The only the only wildcard, I would say, is if Andrew Wiggins has revolutionized his game.
00:22:03
Everybody knows that there is physical talent.
00:22:06
There can.
00:22:08
Physical talent is not basketball skills to different things.
00:22:13
It can be can be used to take advantage of your basketball skills, but I don't know.
00:22:17
The Andrew Wiggins has put together the basketball skills that matches his physical talent, But if he's done that to some degree, uh, that's the only wildcard I would say otherwise is good as Wiseman, I think, can be, and it is an interesting of pieces I think he could be.
00:22:33
I don't think they have a championship team right now as constructed without Klay Thompson.
00:22:38
I don't either, and that's a great point about clay and everything that the whole team was kind of like.
00:22:42
They're just linked so well.
00:22:44
One piece.
00:22:46
Everything just kind of gets thrown off like back when they were in their peak. You know, 2016.
00:22:51
It's like the ball is on the string.
00:22:53
It was moving like everybody was in sync.
00:22:55
So it's like, you know, you have a you know you have that chain, you break one piece of the chain, the whole thing falls apart, so that's a great point about it.
00:23:02
I think they're gonna be There's gonna be a very solid team and, you know, one of my friends flak.
00:23:07
The other day it's like, you know, I told him I was like, It's gonna be uphill battle to make the playoffs.
00:23:10
And it was like, Well, you know, we still have drama.
00:23:13
We still have curry.
00:23:14
And about Curry.
00:23:15
I mean, this guy, I think it's gonna be on a mission.
00:23:17
We haven't seen Curry kind of be that solo driver of a team since, you know, prior to Katie's arrival.
00:23:24
So I think from that perspective, it's kind of a silver lining.
00:23:27
I really just wanna, you know, just look at his impact on this team and what he's gonna be able to do.
00:23:32
Just kind of being that guy again. The M v p.
00:23:35
You know, you know, 29 to 30 points per game, you know, throwing up all those shots.
00:23:40
That's gonna be fun.
00:23:41
We haven't seen that curry in a long time.
00:23:43
Well, what you talk about a couple of fascinating things.
00:23:45
I think if you talk to really Golden State fans, people have been in love with that team for a long time.
00:23:50
That 2000, the team that won the championship before the 73 team the 73 wind team lost.
00:23:58
I think that's their favorite iteration prior to Kevin Durant.
00:24:01
Come along.
00:24:02
I think they felt that was the most pure warriors basketball on DSO.
00:24:07
I think it's gonna be interesting.
00:24:08
So many people.
00:24:09
The critique of Steph Curry is that he's had so many good players around him.
00:24:12
Can he do it on his own? You gonna find out now? I mean, I won't be surprised to see him do very well.
00:24:18
Uh, to me, the challenge of this all is that the next time Steph Curry and Klay Thompson lineup in playoff basketball next to each other at at best, Steph Curry's 34 years old? Yeah, at best.
00:24:30
So that hurts.
00:24:31
I mean, Korea 34 is not LeBron a 34.
00:24:34
It's not the same thing.
00:24:35
LeBron from another planet athletically.
00:24:38
Yeah, way don't know what he years.
00:24:40
We're still trying to figure that out Exactly, man.
00:24:42
But like with Steph, him a 34 is a different story.
00:24:47
So I thought that this year could be the one year that they could maybe make a run at it.
00:24:52
Um, can they do it next year? God's gonna be tough.
00:24:55
It's gonna depend on Wiseman.
00:24:57
Maybe Wiggins is somehow better I don't know, but it's just a lot of ifs now with the Warriors, when there used to be no ifs at all, there really are.
00:25:06
And I think it's telling about this team that we've had this, you know, I think it's almost 10 minutes now.
00:25:11
We've talked about the Warriors, where you have the Bucks coming off number one seed, and you know, they were the favorites to win the East, and it's like they're getting no love in this podcast.
00:25:19
So I think the Warriors still have that draw that goes back to your point.
00:25:22
Steph Curry drives this whole thing.
00:25:24
He's back, and that makes him an entire segment of the podcast, like he's that powerful.
00:25:28
He really is.
00:25:29
And, you know, like I said, we started off by saying Yanis two times in a row. M v p.
00:25:34
And Steph twice in a row.
00:25:36
M v p.
00:25:37
But there is something, and we talked about the heat, not getting the shine that they deserve.
00:25:40
There's something about there's a magic about certain players and certain teams that that sparks all in people.
00:25:48
It really does it.
00:25:49
It's the stuff that gets on our top 10 frankly on that Z not necessarily different from winning basketball, but it's also not necessarily the same thing.
00:25:58
Uh, Steph Curry has a magic when a guy's hitting a 35 footer and he's built like your your neighbor.
00:26:05
He's like a skinny little kid.
00:26:06
It looks like a skinny little kid out there.
00:26:08
And he's 6263 It's magical What he did revolutionize the game of basketball.
00:26:14
Eso he has that magic he and that's the draw.
00:26:17
That's the draw that that the people that that put these matchups on Christmas look for.
00:26:22
And Steph Curry is one of those guys that has.
00:26:23
And you know not to say that Yannis doesn't.
00:26:26
I think a lot of people love Yanis, but on it is like LeBron build.
00:26:32
Plus like he's like taller than LeBron bigger than LeBron.
00:26:36
He's truck like LeBron.
00:26:37
But more eso that that doesn't blow people away because the sense to me a little bit with that is like that's unrelated ble.
00:26:47
Um, who else? You know, God, that's curry you can relate to.
00:26:52
If I go to the gym and I keep shooting, I keep shooting Well, it's not gonna happen, but maybe you know, it's it's realistic.
00:26:58
So, uh, there's a magic with stuff that I think that you just some guys have it, and he's one of those guys that just really has big time.
00:27:05
Big time.
00:27:06
We're talking about magic, and there's a guy that Steph Curry played with just a couple of years ago, Kevin Durant.
00:27:11
I mean, this guy brings magic of his own, and another player like this is probably the second or third player we talked about.
00:27:17
Now that's coming off of an injury that we haven't seen playing quite some time.
00:27:21
So he's gonna be back in action against the Celtics.
00:27:23
So this matchup is gonna be huge for a multitude of reasons.
00:27:26
Kyrie and Katie First action.
00:27:28
That's always fun to see from the Celtics perspective.
00:27:31
They had a disappointing playoff run, but Tatum is on board.
00:27:34
They still have Jalen Brown, so it's gonna be an adjustment for them because they have an injury of their own and Kemba Walker.
00:27:40
He's not expected back until early January at the absolute earliest.
00:27:44
So probably later January, once he's re evaluated and he has time to get back into the lineup.
00:27:49
But both teams I mean they have a lot to bring to the table.
00:27:52
And it's a battle of elite wings like Tatum versus Katie is must see stuff.
00:27:57
And Tatum is on track to kind of be a player.
00:28:00
I'm not gonna say he's gonna be as good as Katie, but I mean, he's on track to be one of the great stars in our game from that position.
00:28:06
So that's a huge test for him.
00:28:08
And it's a test that I think he's gonna rise to the occasion to meet and really just proved that he's on the level of some of these elite wings.
00:28:14
You've seen an MBA.
00:28:15
That's for years.
00:28:16
The first time I saw Kevin Durant, he was a junior in high school and he was playing against the number one player in the nation.
00:28:23
And that was Lou Williams on DSO and you could.
00:28:26
Kevin Durant was as skinny as a tripod back then.
00:28:30
Hey, still really skinny now.
00:28:31
But he was He was just super thin, but you could tell his skills were something that we hadn't seen before on a guy with that build.
00:28:40
Um, and so what's gonna be interesting in his return is Kevin Durant combined.
00:28:45
We talked about skills and athletic talent.
00:28:48
He combined those wonderfully unique athletic talent.
00:28:51
So big, so long and yet so coordinated.
00:28:54
I don't know.
00:28:55
The thing that I can't wait to see with him is Where is he athletically? Are we? Are we going to notice a difference? I you know, people always talk about the guy that came back from this.
00:29:06
The first time in basketball memory was Dominique Wilkins, and I was here when that was happening.
00:29:11
Dominique Wilkins obviously start with the Atlanta Hawks years and years and years and years and years ago.
00:29:15
But he to me he always lost a little bit athletically, just a touch.
00:29:21
I think Katie can afford to lose a little bit.
00:29:23
Athletically, I don't think it will cost them that much.
00:29:26
I really because I think his skills are such his back to the basket game, his face up game, his handle he can get and just in Look at what Kobe Bryant did with his career.
00:29:37
Look what Michael Jordan did with his career.
00:29:38
I think in some ways LeBron's doing in his career figuring out easier, more efficient ways to score the basketball as time goes on.
00:29:45
I think Kevin Durant maybe has more ability than any of those people in the sense that he's just built so much bigger than them.
00:29:52
So he can do things that that will work.
00:29:54
So I'm excited to see where Kevin Durant is.
00:29:56
I'm excited to see him play with Kyrie Irving down the stretch and see what that pairing looks like.
00:30:02
And, you know, you mentioned Jayson Tatum.
00:30:05
If you if you look at his stats over over the course of his early career, I think it was like 13 points a game, 15 points a game, a second year, 23 points a game, his 30.
00:30:14
He made this massive leap forward.
00:30:16
His skill set is good Lord.
00:30:20
He makes shots that you're like.
00:30:21
He shouldn't be making that shot and he just makes him over and over and over again.
00:30:27
Uh, to me, he is the guy on that team and I don't know that, you know, we always talk about like declaring Who's the guy? I don't know that that really matters honestly, but I think he is that guy ahead of Jalen Brown, who's enormously talented.
00:30:40
He was the number one player in America when he was in high school.
00:30:43
So these are These are guys with wonderful pedigree.
00:30:45
And then you mentioned Kemba Walker as well, Who's the veteran and multiple all stars.
00:30:49
So I think Boston, to me, is another one of those teams.
00:30:53
And you I think you mentioned it.
00:30:54
Disappointed in the playoffs a little bit way.
00:30:57
Keep wanting eso.
00:30:58
Here's the teams in the East that we keep expecting more from Philadelphia.
00:31:02
70 Sixers Never did it.
00:31:03
Never remember it was trust the process.
00:31:05
Trust the process.
00:31:06
The process didn't work.
00:31:07
Yeah, some people say it's still going.
00:31:10
It's like it hasn't finished like we're still waiting.
00:31:12
The process has to yield something at some point beyond a conference semifinals on and it's, I don't know when the process started, but what do we 78 years now? Six.
00:31:23
I don't know, but in any case, I I feel like we needed more from the Sixers.
00:31:28
I feel like we needed more from the Bucks, and I feel like we needed Mawr from the Celtics.
00:31:32
So who's gotten in the way? The Raptors in the heat? Uh, those are the two teams that have gotten in the way from these three teams that we expect magical things from, um I don't know that the heat and the Raptors wanna go away.
00:31:48
I don't know that way to be crowned these teams in the East that have these young stars that we followed forever and ever and ever.
00:31:57
But, you know, I don't know that the Raptors in the heat just wanna walk away and say, Okay, guys, you're the stars.
00:32:03
You can have it now.
00:32:04
I just don't think it works out that way.
00:32:07
So I'm fascinated to see if the Celtics could make the leap.
00:32:11
And now, you know, we talk about teams competing for the Eastern Conference Championship.
00:32:16
You don't Brooklyn's not gonna wait right now.
00:32:19
There's not a huge like they're going for because they have.
00:32:22
Yeah, the window is now, and it's It's not five years from now.
00:32:27
It's not three years, right? It's right now, so they're all hands on deck.
00:32:32
The East is gonna be fascinating to me with a lot of teams press and go right now.
00:32:37
Um and I just don't think that it's going to clear the way easily for any of the teams that we've anointed as the media on that being Philly, Boston and Milwaukee.
00:32:48
I don't think it clears the way easily for them.
00:32:50
They may win it.
00:32:51
They may.
00:32:52
But if they win it, they earned it.
00:32:53
Oh, yeah, they earned.
00:32:55
You have to because, yeah, the East is just It's really gotten competitive much more than we've seen in the past.
00:33:00
I mean, we're talking about the top.
00:33:02
Even if you look at the bottom like I mentioned on Twitter yesterday, you think about the Wizards, who have just made a huge move.
00:33:08
We're gonna talk about in a minute.
00:33:09
You think about the Hawks that have retooled you think about, You know, it seems that the bottom Charlotte should be pretty solid, like those teams at the bottom will have something to say if they want to find their way into the playoff race.
00:33:20
So it's not just a top loaded conference like it's pretty deep, which is a lot to say compared to where we were a few years ago.
00:33:26
It's come along some of these teams getting to the playoffs is the objective.
00:33:30
Now I know that's true in Atlanta.
00:33:32
I have to believe that's true in Charlotte as well.
00:33:35
You wouldn't make you wouldn't pay Gordon Hayward all that money.
00:33:38
You overpaid him and you knew you were over paying him.
00:33:40
But that's e think they sort of accepted.
00:33:42
Where? Small market team.
00:33:43
We're not a big draw to get somebody in here.
00:33:46
We have to pay a little more than they're they're worth.
00:33:48
They did it.
00:33:49
Gordon Hayward.
00:33:50
Whether you think it's a smart move or not, they did it and that they're putting their cards on the table there, saying, We got to get in the playoffs now we've got to make a step forward.
00:33:58
Um, and that's a lot of teams in the East.
00:34:02
You really you hit on something good, their teams or teams air trying, trying, they're not trying to lose.
00:34:08
Now they're trying to win now.
00:34:11
Yeah, I wanna go back to the point you were making about Katie earlier, and you were talking about him being able to come back from that injury because of his unique build, and that reminds me of an article I read by my product.
00:34:22
I think he's does the work for explanation in the past, but he spoke about this, and he said that Katie has a variety of moves.
00:34:29
He has this natural dip in his body that just doesn't require a ton of leg strength like he has a very fluid motion.
00:34:35
There's a cushion, and the shooting percentages, like basically what he was trying to say is like Katie was so good.
00:34:40
He was here before the injury.
00:34:42
If he loses 10 or 20% of his player, he goes from like Okay, he goes from arguably the best player in the game to a top 10 player.
00:34:48
A top 10 player is still a top 10 players.
00:34:51
You have him and Kyrie on the roster together.
00:34:54
I mean, you're still going places.
00:34:56
So I think that's why Brooklyn was so comfortable to pay him the max money coming off Nicki Lease because they knew he has a cushion, a humongous cushion that separates him from almost any other MBA player and will allow him to come back in the lineup and still be, uh, you know, 20 plus point per game score on a pretty good efficiency.
00:35:14
I mean, if he loses a little bit of efficiency like, hey, you go from being in the 99th percentile, too 85th or 88.
00:35:21
Something like that. It's like, Hey, we'll take it.
00:35:23
That's fine.
00:35:24
Here's the thing about Katie to me that I will remember forever.
00:35:28
He faced down LeBron James in the NBA Finals, and individually, he was better than LeBron James individually, not just part of a better team.
00:35:39
He was individually better than LeBron in an MBA Finals.
00:35:44
Who does that? Who in the world? Yeah, extraordinary.
00:35:51
You have to be out of this world extraordinary.
00:35:54
And he did it.
00:35:55
And that's the sort of talent that he has.
00:35:57
And also, I think it's the respect he garners around the league.
00:36:02
I remember LeBron James was asked after they beat the Warriors in the finals, and then the Warriors came back and smoked him with Katie.
00:36:08
What was the difference? K D That's it. Yeah.
00:36:14
He's like, If you if you could say to me, Bo, you get to be anyone MBA, anyone active NBA player in his prime for a day.
00:36:23
Who do you wanna be? He's on the short list.
00:36:25
He's on the short list, man.
00:36:27
I mean, you know it is LeBron.
00:36:29
It's k d. I don't know.
00:36:31
It's Steph.
00:36:32
Maybe I don't know, but e I mean, that's what hey is of that sort of talent.
00:36:39
And like you said, he has room.
00:36:41
He has a margin of error.
00:36:43
Uh, he he you know, he can also tinker with his game in the way that Kobe and MJ did.
00:36:49
Thio figure out other ways to score easily that don't require him, you know, dribbling two dribbles along the baseline and flying through and stuff and on people he can figure out other ways to do.
00:37:00
It s so I think he's going to be very good.
00:37:04
Uh, probably better than Kyrie already.
00:37:07
Just right away.
00:37:08
I really believe that.
00:37:10
I mean, I just I just think he is of that sort of level.
00:37:13
Eso I expect more of him than I do have nearly anyone.
00:37:18
I think you could just rely on that one leg fade away for an entire game.
00:37:22
You could just say I'm gonna be dark today. 20.
00:37:24
So, what's the word project I'm gonna be for a day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's how talented he is.
00:37:34
He just takes parts of people's games, and he's good to go, but the next matchup on the docket, we're looking at Mavericks Lakers.
00:37:41
So We had four incredible matchups between these teams last season.
00:37:45
I went back and looked to the scores.
00:37:46
The Lakers did take three out of four.
00:37:48
LeBron outplayed Luca and many of those matchups.
00:37:51
But I mean Lucas back in Year three. He's better than ever.
00:37:54
So you're looking at those two for being to Well, we're talking about highlight guys next in line like when you're looking at.
00:38:02
I'm thinking about Luca.
00:38:04
When I when I consider what he brings to the table, I think about LeBron.
00:38:07
You take away the incredible, just ridiculous leaping ability like that, just Zell quickness of getting up and down the court in, like, three seconds.
00:38:15
You take that one part of his game away.
00:38:18
You have Luca like he has everything else in his game like he has the passing.
00:38:23
He has the scoring ability.
00:38:24
You know the vision is there.
00:38:26
The I Q.
00:38:27
The basketball I Q is on an incredible level.
00:38:29
This guy could get your triple doubles, you know, at age 21.
00:38:32
I mean, that's saying a lot.
00:38:33
That's stuff that we saw from LeBron when he was his age.
00:38:35
So it's like the similarities air there.
00:38:38
I'm going to say something that's blasphemous.
00:38:40
I think he's better in some ways than LeBron at the same age.
00:38:43
E mean that he's a better outside shooter without any question without any question.
00:38:49
Hey, faced better competition when he was 18 years old than LeBron did.
00:38:53
He came over to this league having played in the Euro League at the highest level M v p of the euro league.
00:39:01
So I e.
00:39:02
I think he starts off.
00:39:03
I think, you know, like you said, he does not have LeBron's explosive vertical ability.
00:39:07
I think he may have better lateral moves than LeBron.
00:39:11
LeBron is a straight line driver.
00:39:13
LeBron decided.
00:39:14
Dink Dink, Dink, Dink Dink Luca could do that to a degree.
00:39:18
He can shake you degree, Um, and his passing ability hand.
00:39:23
LeBron is one of the best path passes I've ever seen.
00:39:25
Luca Luca's right there, LeBron.
00:39:29
May I mean that's that's sort of a pick him, maybe LeBron.
00:39:32
I think magic is the best pastor I've ever seen.
00:39:35
But right there behind him is those guys is particularly faras people that air big and ball handlers.
00:39:40
Those guys have extraordinary talent, a guy that gets forgotten, a lot in that conversations Penny Hardaway.
00:39:46
But yeah, I think there's a There's an argument to be made, and I haven't I just thinking about it.
00:39:53
I haven't even looked at it statistically that Luca is as good at this point in his career as LeBron Waas.
00:39:58
You can look it up.
00:40:01
Yeah, you can look it up.
00:40:02
His His shooting is certainly vastly better than LeBron's Waas.
00:40:07
You can see it's LeBron stepping back from three, you know, no efficiency at all.
00:40:13
So I would say I'd say, You know, it's it's sort of pick him.
00:40:15
If you want the athleticism, it's LeBron.
00:40:17
If you want the skill and shooting ability, it's Luca.
00:40:20
But I think I think there's something similar.
00:40:22
I think it's good that you mentioned them together like that, too, because one of the things that Luca has that I think underrated is when he's playing off that pick and roll, he's got a body frame that's thick, like LeBron's little contact. Right.
00:40:35
When you're going to the full, the contact doesn't throw him off.
00:40:37
He's not flailing out of screen like I just about did there.
00:40:40
He's ableto hang in there with that contact that is another gift that LeBron had and the weird thing.
00:40:48
And this is this is where, when you're young and in basketball, media or playing, you learn 20 years down the road.
00:40:56
Luke has taken from LeBron what LeBron taught along the way.
00:41:00
He's learned from that, and he's incorporated his game into that in his game when he's 21.
00:41:06
So now when Lucas, 30 or 35 the next kid comes along, that's 18.
00:41:11
He's gonna have learned everything that LeBron did and everything that Luca did, and he's gonna have that when he's 21.
00:41:17
That's how the game grows on DSO for Luca.
00:41:21
I really, really, really am excited to see how he gets better.
00:41:26
What he does better because, you know, you look at him, you're like, What can he do better? He's already a league like Yeah, like in the Peanuts.
00:41:35
Last year, I was like, Name me five better players.
00:41:38
Name me five.
00:41:39
I don't know that I could name five better than Luca.
00:41:41
He was that good.
00:41:43
So I was excited to see the Maverick signed James Johnson to protect him a little e.
00:41:52
I was joking around on Twitter because the Morris brothers were giving him Luca, you know, little physical threats out there.
00:41:59
They definitely picked on him.
00:42:01
He's more threatening in the league than James Johnson.
00:42:03
Yeah, a black No.
00:42:05
You're watching something around that place who you are.
00:42:09
You're not messing with James Johnson.
00:42:11
Oh, absolutely not.
00:42:12
So, you know, this matchup is so incredible because it's like these two players got so much attention, but they're both made moves to really kind of bring themselves up in that conference.
00:42:22
So you're looking at two players.
00:42:23
You're looking at shrewder for the Lakers.
00:42:25
You're looking at Josh Richardson for the Mavericks.
00:42:27
I think both of those guys, we're gonna play pivotal roles in this game.
00:42:30
Shrewder wants to be a starter.
00:42:32
He made that known.
00:42:33
I think it was just yesterday he was on the, you know, when The media day.
00:42:37
And they were speaking to him about what he expects from this season, and he made it clear he wants to be a starter.
00:42:42
So I was getting Carmelo Anthony vibes from him.
00:42:44
It wasn't quite sure how to take that, but he's capable.
00:42:47
I mean, the guy has displayed an ability to be a great floor general last season.
00:42:52
He came off the bench, but I think it either role. He's very good.
00:42:55
And if we're thinking about one of the great light, comes from last season from L.
00:42:59
A.
00:43:00
It was Avery Bradley, Danny Green, Braun Davis and JAVALE McGee.
00:43:04
So if you take out Green and Avery Bradley, you put intruder.
00:43:08
And Wesley, um, you know, you think about Wesley Matthews, you know, you could approximate that kind of impact of those guys had together so I can see where his you know, his influence in the starting lineup will be felt.
00:43:20
It's gonna be It's gonna be a great fit for him cause he's improved as a player since he was in Atlanta down here.
00:43:26
You know, I saw him play a little bit in his earlier days.
00:43:28
I'm sure you will well, and he's a different player.
00:43:31
He's really learned a lot in his shot, has come a long way.
00:43:33
Specifically, I think that's a really good point.
00:43:35
I think his shot is much better than it used to be.
00:43:37
And I think that's an important point because the concern with those two is that LeBron needs the ball in his hands to be successful.
00:43:43
Shrewder needs the ball in his hands to be successful.
00:43:45
Who's shooting the ball? Well, the answer is LeBron.
00:43:47
Of course what? I think there's a way to manage that, too.
00:43:50
I think if it's important to shrewder start, I think you can start on both and maybe LeBron place the first six minutes Shooter plays the 1st 12 minutes, and then LeBron comes back in and place them into, and then you just sort of shift them in tow, alternating groups after the start.
00:44:05
And if if being a starter is that important shooter, you could probably accommodate him on make both of those happened to meet Dennis.
00:44:11
Shrewder is as good as anyone in the N B A at blowing by his defender.
00:44:18
I don't know that there's a quicker guy.
00:44:20
His first is bizarre quick.
00:44:23
It's insane so he can break down a defense.
00:44:27
And so imagine shrewder breaks passed his first man.
00:44:31
The help comes and there's Anthony Davis swooping along the baseline.
00:44:35
He's gonna have.
00:44:36
He's gonna have opportunities to set up guys like he's never had before, and that's where he's gotta learn.
00:44:41
He's gonna say, OK, that's not you know Steven Adams, who's very good.
00:44:46
That's Anthony Davis, who's several levels beyond that.
00:44:49
I can set him up and he can bring that home.
00:44:51
So I think that's gonna be fascinating for him.
00:44:53
Josh Richardson is a good piece for the Dallas Mavericks, too, and I think the thing that Josh Richardson is gonna find out is there's There's a similarity in basketball and soccer in this, to me is you have to always be aware when you don't have the ball of where you are.
00:45:10
And with Luca Donncha, he's a special basketball player.
00:45:13
So if you get into positions where you are open where you are free, he's going to find you.
00:45:19
So his movement without the ball, particularly when Luca has it to create opportunities for himself, Thio ease.
00:45:26
The pressure from Lucca is gonna be critical for me, and I think he's able to do that.
00:45:31
I think you know I talked to you earlier about Christmas is when I start to evaluate teams in a normal year, I think there's there's gonna be a month and a half learning period for these guys to figure out what they're supposed to be doing out there on the court.
00:45:42
We won't have it perfect yet.
00:45:43
We'll see some of some of the warts on Christmas Day, but I think that's the thing to track is how they adapt to the dominant team mates.
00:45:52
Three other interesting thing I saw in L.
00:45:54
A is that I think they were talking about Anthony Davis going for this year's M v p.
00:45:58
I saw that e three m v p to me is a young man's award. Definitely.
00:46:07
Oh, yeah, regular season award and LeBron doesn't care about a regular season award.
00:46:11
Give me championships.
00:46:14
Give me rings.
00:46:15
I wanna catch MJ.
00:46:16
That is, that's the game he's playing right now.
00:46:18
He's trying to win championships, and if Anthony Davis wants to win a regular season MVP, I can see LeBron facilitating that and making him very happy and and scoring 23 points a game, 22 points a game.
00:46:31
Well, scores 32.
00:46:33
And I think that could work, eh? So what I'm saying is, I think there's a lot of opportunities for happiness in L.
00:46:39
A E think they can manage that team in a way that every player gets individually what they want or at least every important player.
00:46:45
And then, um, they can they conserve, realign at the playoffs and go for that team goal.
00:46:51
That's in LeBron's interest, for sure.
00:46:53
That team is just so you know, they're so connected.
00:46:56
You know, You go back to the bubble and you look at how they kind of work together.
00:46:59
Even before the bubble, they're always on the same page.
00:47:02
They were always rooting for each other.
00:47:03
You know, their their dad and their high five and they're hugging each other, you know, post championship.
00:47:08
You know, of course, they were all, you know, in this great mood, like they're a great team.
00:47:11
They have great camaraderie.
00:47:12
They have great connections all the way up and down the roster.
00:47:15
I don't think this year will be any different for them, but one team right across the road that is gonna have challenges with that.
00:47:21
We've kind of read about that in the past few days.
00:47:23
If you read the athletic, you know about what the Clippers have dealt with their coming from the opposite perspective.
00:47:29
So they have this much talent.
00:47:30
Is the Lakers Do They signed Serge Ibaka in the off season.
00:47:34
They have pieces for days that resigned.
00:47:36
Marcus Morris, they're coming at you with pieces from all over the floor.
00:47:40
You know, from guard.
00:47:41
Played a wing too big, getting rid of Harold.
00:47:44
You know, I think it's gonna be a huge difference maker for them, but ultimately, it just comes down to how these guys gonna connect with each other.
00:47:51
You know, you're bringing back largely the same roster.
00:47:54
You know, you jettison Harold, but for the most part, it's the same Lou Williams.
00:47:58
Reggie Jackson's resigned, which actually kind of surprised me a little bit.
00:48:03
But you know, Paul George and Co.
00:48:05
I Oh, wow, they're getting this preferential treatment.
00:48:07
We don't like that. We don't enjoy that.
00:48:09
Like, that's not gonna change.
00:48:10
I mean, the stars definitely are treated a little bit differently from the 10th and 11th man on the roster.
00:48:16
There's no doubt about that, but I'm just curious to see how that's on a going to translate to the court and specifically against the Nuggets.
00:48:23
That was the team that really kicked them out of the playoffs, and the schedule makers knew what they were doing with this match up together for a reason.
00:48:31
This is gonna be Paula Georges, um, time to get his reputation back because his reputation is absolutely destroyed.
00:48:38
Looking at Twitter, no one gives him any respect anymore. He's a choker.
00:48:42
Uh, you know, he's blowing smoke.
00:48:44
He's saying that he didn't get to run, pick and rolls last season.
00:48:47
He ran a bunch of pin downs and he was like a spot up shooter, which the stats bear that out to be false.
00:48:53
Hey, ran plenty of pick and rolls.
00:48:55
He ran less actions off the off the pick off the down screens, so that's obviously false.
00:49:01
But there's gonna be keys for him to be able to get back on track.
00:49:04
And if you have one less stout defender toe worry about Jeremy grants out of the picture.
00:49:09
This is his time to go out there and get 30 35 reassert himself.
00:49:14
So that's what I expect from him in this matchup.
00:49:16
I think y it's gonna be great, but Paul George is going to take this, and it's an opportunity to remind people I'm still here.
00:49:22
I'm still I'm all in B A material.
00:49:24
I'm still one of the great wings in this game.
00:49:27
I think it's important that he does that, too, right? I feel like it's important not for just him, but I think for him mentally he needs to reassert himself.
00:49:35
I think, for his teammates to see that, I think, for Clippers fans to see that, I think for the league to see that, Um, you're right.
00:49:43
It is playoff Paul.
00:49:45
That takes the bad rap, right? So it is really real.
00:49:48
Redemption is I'm in June and July or whatever, but I think he has to start working Thio to rehab that now.
00:49:57
And the other thing I think is important is the Clippers overall have toe redevelop some chemistry.
00:50:04
Um, I've like Lou Williams is the coolest guy in the league.
00:50:09
Is that just everybody sort of gravitates.
00:50:11
That guy thinks he's.
00:50:13
I think he can play a part in that as a bridge builder, and I hope that he I hope that he does, because that team needs to come together and they may.
00:50:22
They may trade Lou for all I know, but I think you know they need to come together and they need to be in a better frame of mind that got a new coach now.
00:50:31
eso maybe.
00:50:34
But that lost last year.
00:50:35
It wasn't just that they lost.
00:50:38
It was how they lost.
00:50:39
That was particularly painful.
00:50:41
They choked it away.
00:50:42
They really they choked it.
00:50:44
And so for them, they have to.
00:50:47
Not all They have to come back.
00:50:48
They have to prove who they were.
00:50:50
And then in their own town, for now, in their own building is the team. That's the champs.
00:50:57
They've just got a lot of hurdles to overcome. They can.
00:51:01
It would be a great redemption story.
00:51:02
And they certainly have the talent. Cohen.
00:51:04
Paul. George.
00:51:05
Okay, you already got the talent.
00:51:06
So But doing that is tough.
00:51:09
And, you know, like you said and you made a good point, the schedule makers knew what they were doing because who they're looking at.
00:51:15
Nicola Yokich.
00:51:16
Jamal Murray.
00:51:17
Those guys again that took it from them.
00:51:19
It's gonna be fun to watch them. Fantastic.
00:51:22
There's gonna be a fantastic way to end the day.
00:51:24
You know, our nightcap is gonna be Yokich is gonna be Paul.
00:51:27
George is gonna be CO y and I mean last thing on this I mean, you go and look at who these guys have now it Z you know, it's all the way up and down these rosters.
00:51:37
ITT's competitive basketball, and I'm interested to see how AH, guy like you know Yokich and Jamal respond to this because historically, Jamal Murray has been up and down player.
00:51:48
So I really want to see if that bubble performance was a flash in the pan or it was something that he's gonna grab with him.
00:51:54
Take with him going forward because if he does, Denver launches into that conversation.
00:52:00
And I'm not just being a fun story, but actually legitimate, like title contender.
00:52:05
And for Jamal Murray, it could mean an all MBA birth, All Star birth or individual accolades for him to give him that confidence he's seeking.
00:52:13
So I'm interested to see how he moves forward from one of the great performances playoff performances we've seen in recent history.
00:52:20
There were a couple of stars born in the bubble.
00:52:23
Jamal Murray is one of those, I think Donovan Mitchell, Although he was already a known name, I think he became a bit more of a star in the bubble.
00:52:31
Um, but what? Jamal Murray did some of the shots that he made some of the highlights that he provided for us and the fact that he just kept doing it and doing it and doing it and doing it over and over and over again, and teams couldn't find an answer for him.
00:52:44
I think that has to give him confidence as a player, and if I were him, I would be the one guy that's really glad this season's coming back right away.
00:52:54
Oh, yeah, I want to capitalize on that, right.
00:52:56
I would want to reestablish that.
00:52:58
I want to in grain that in who I am, I am that player.
00:53:01
That wasn't a fluke.
00:53:02
That is me.
00:53:04
So I think it's important for him to do that because, like you said, if you've got Yokich, who's a Unicorn type player, just all sorts of bizarre skills that really work in the MBA today, Uh, and and Murray, who can be an elite score now we can.
00:53:20
We can talk about him in the in terms of like 26 27 28 points a game and pair that with the rest of what they have in Denver.
00:53:29
Some of it, I don't know if it works.
00:53:31
Some of it I dio you know, I'm excited.
00:53:35
I'm excited for that team.
00:53:37
The wild card for me is what is Porter have, uh, you know, because I think there's really talent there.
00:53:45
Uh, and he delivered that consistently.
00:53:48
And does it fit next to Yokich? Does it fit next to who? They have those air questions I can't wait to see answered because, you know, you talk, Murray, you talk.
00:53:58
Yeah.
00:53:59
Okay, let's let's find another guy that's really there.
00:54:02
And I think it could be him stepping into that role.
00:54:05
Absolutely.
00:54:06
Wholeheartedly.
00:54:07
Agree on that one.
00:54:08
I know.
00:54:09
We're running a lot of little long here, guys.
00:54:10
You all night, but one last segment here.
00:54:13
Just wanna cover with you this trade that really struck us out of nowhere last night.
00:54:17
You know, I'm sitting at my dinner table.
00:54:19
I'm just kind of reading some articles and just kind of minding my own business.
00:54:23
And then all of a sudden, they dropped this on us, you know, right at the start of individual workouts for the season and three weeks away from the regular season.
00:54:30
And this is something that we've heard whispers about in the past the past few weeks.
00:54:35
But apparently from what I heard, the G.
00:54:37
M's came back together.
00:54:39
I guess they just picked up the phone.
00:54:40
They said, Hey, let's go over this again.
00:54:42
Are you sure you want to do this trade? Because we talked about it before and we hung up the phone.
00:54:46
So maybe this is something that could benefit us.
00:54:48
And they said, Oh, you know, what the heck.
00:54:50
Let's go ahead and swap.
00:54:51
You know, they're making similar money, like I looked up their contracts and there's only $100,000 difference between the money for Westbrook and John Wall, and it's It's so eerily similar not just how much they're making, but the kind of player they are.
00:55:05
Which brings into question What is James Harden looking for? If the reports are saying that he wants somebody he wasn't feeling Russell Westbrook.
00:55:13
He likes John Wall.
00:55:14
What does he see in him? They're both fiery players.
00:55:17
They're both explosive.
00:55:18
They're both streaky shooters.
00:55:20
They're both good passers.
00:55:21
So what's the difference between the play style? So that's the big question I need answered going forward into this season, how that's going to translate on the court.
00:55:29
I'm not sure John Wall still seems to be a sketchy fit with with hardened I mean, John Wall.
00:55:35
I saw something like yesterday, believe it or not, saying that John Wall, back when he was playing was even worse off the ball in terms of just moving and staying active than Westbrook Waas.
00:55:46
So if you look at it from that perspective, it's like I don't know how this works out. It's clones.
00:55:51
Eso Here's Here's what I would say.
00:55:53
The reports indicate that there were some personality problems between John Wall and Bradley Beal.
00:55:58
Right, so we start there.
00:56:00
Russell Westbrook is the Mawr proven commodity at this very moment because we just don't know how John Wall's gonna come back.
00:56:07
Hopefully, you know, from all the reports that we've seen, he looks really good.
00:56:10
So hopefully he is good.
00:56:12
John Wall has averages more assists per game than Russell Westbrook does.
00:56:16
He's a little bit better of a passer, so maybe that helps a James Harden a little bit right.
00:56:21
It's not a ton of help, but it's a little bit on then, for for the Washington Wizards, The thing that's interesting to me is so if Russell Westbrook Let's just assume that Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal get along.
00:56:34
Does this get them in the conversation of an eight seed if it works out? I asked this on Twitter the other day.
00:56:40
What's the best possible realistically possible outcome of Bill and Westbrook together for Washington? Is it the eighth seed in the playoffs? And you make it and you're a playoff team and you get a couple home playoff games and maybe you build from there.
00:56:55
Is it a second round playoff team? Can you get through a round of the Eastern Conference? I don't know about that, but, yeah, I think the thing that's interesting to me is more.
00:57:05
The Washington side is what's the absolutely peak? Because if if Wall and Beal weren't gonna work together and let's, let's say Bills, their best player, he is their best player.
00:57:15
He's their best known commodity, and you're not keeping deal.
00:57:18
If walls there, then I think it's I think it's a fascinating move because it's really ask yourself this.
00:57:25
Who else could you have traded those guys for? They had to be traded for each other, right? That's it, right? Nobody.
00:57:31
Nobody's gonna fall for that trade any other way.
00:57:33
It's not that they're bad players.
00:57:35
It's the contract, right? If they were both on one year, $7 million contract? Yeah, maybe Maybe I entertained.
00:57:42
Have them? Sure, that's the ER.
00:57:44
It's the contract.
00:57:45
That's the deal.
00:57:46
It's not the players so much.
00:57:47
It's the contract.
00:57:48
That's the deal.
00:57:49
Eso eso I I can't wait to see it.
00:57:53
I don't know.
00:57:55
Just look.
00:57:56
Rush is a fun player for me is a top 10 guy.
00:57:59
Oh, yeah, But if you're every time since you've been on the top 10 just like go back to your history.
00:58:03
Like all his highlights in O.
00:58:05
K.
00:58:06
C.
00:58:07
He has to be one of the probably five most frequent appearances on that.
00:58:10
Like he.
00:58:11
Maybe it's LeBron.
00:58:13
It's him.
00:58:14
For a while, it was Blake.
00:58:16
Griffin was on there a ton, but Westbrook's up there with anybody.
00:58:20
What, up there with anybody.
00:58:22
But that's not I'm a top 10 announcer.
00:58:24
He's a coach.
00:58:25
This is a coach that you're talking about. Sorry about that.
00:58:28
He's a coach that you're talking about, you know, in Washington that wants to get something out of those players.
00:58:35
Does that work? Does that work.
00:58:37
That's a different equation.
00:58:39
Um, and I don't know how you get You can't get those players.
00:58:43
They're They're at an age now where they're not gonna be different players.
00:58:46
Yeah, true they are.
00:58:48
They're they're what they are set in their ways.
00:58:50
Exactly.
00:58:51
I didn't think John Walls a little better at his peak for James Harden, and this is just a little the half step.
00:58:56
I think it's a little better for James Harden, so we'll see what that translates into if it works out that way.
00:59:03
But the Russell Westbrook peace in Washington, I just don't know.
00:59:06
Look, you know, at SBC, Tommy Sheppard, their GM is a friend of the program.
00:59:11
I'm Tommy.
00:59:12
A number of times I love Tommy, and I wanted to work out for him.
00:59:15
I just don't know, you know.
00:59:18
It's probably better in the sense that you've you've created a better locker room.
00:59:22
I just don't know what the best case scenario is that they're not winning a championship.
00:59:26
E don't think.
00:59:28
Do you think there is a way that they get to the Eastern Conference finals? E really don't just the best.
00:59:33
What's the best they could dio I would say six seed in the playoffs.
00:59:37
If I'm thinking about a dream scenario, everything comes together because the talent is there.
00:59:41
Thomas Brian is a nice player.
00:59:43
No more is definitely going to take another step. Interesting.
00:59:46
They've been building a nice roster, but at the end of the day, Westbrook is too much of our liability.
00:59:50
Like somebody was on Twitter earlier, Making a highlight tape of is last season in Houston, and there were like three or four shots like at the end of the game that were either bricks or air balls, like just jump shots from the mid range or three.
01:00:04
So he's one of the most dreadful jump shooters in the league.
01:00:07
His free throw shooting is tank, so the combination of those two factors doesn't really bode well for somebody in the playoff scenario where every team is hunting you, they're hunting your weaknesses.
01:00:17
That's just not gonna work well, so to answer your question, I don't see how they even make it out of the first round because you're probably playing a Philadelphia.
01:00:25
They're playing a Toronto.
01:00:26
They're playing a Milwaukee That's just too much to overcome, in my opinion, so I looked up the stats today.
01:00:34
Russell Westbrook had his career high effective field goal percentage last year.
01:00:40
His career high was last year with the Houston Rockets.
01:00:42
You want to know what it was? I'm sure it's not saying much.
01:00:44
49.
01:00:46
3% career high.
01:00:48
Wow, career high. Incredible.
01:00:50
He's not.
01:00:51
He's not an efficient player.
01:00:53
He's not.
01:00:54
And I know we live in an age of efficiency.
01:00:56
He's not that.
01:00:57
Look, if if you need a guy that can get off a shot with three seconds left, he could get off a shot.
01:01:04
Don't talk about that.
01:01:05
I don't know what's going, but it may not know, but he could get a shot off.
01:01:08
So I just, you know, I it's gonna be interesting to me to see how they work out.
01:01:14
But again, I just keep thinking Best case in their best case scenario in Houston there, they're not doing anything.
01:01:19
Yeah, I think it's a similar story hoping these guys, I don't think I don't think it changes the fortunes for either team.
01:01:25
But, you know, the big question for each side is like for Washington, like we just talked about, how far can they go.
01:01:30
I think they're very fun.
01:01:31
I think they're competitive, but I don't see them really making any huge steps.
01:01:35
And then in Houston, it's really about what are you gaining? So it's like you get a pick and return that won't convey until 2023 at the earliest.
01:01:44
Hi, John Wall that, unlike Katie, who we just talked about, is not gonna be.
01:01:49
He doesn't have the luxury off that margin of error that we talked about.
01:01:53
Not 6 10 6 11 7 ft.
01:01:56
He's 64 and he actually did rely a lot on his speed and burst to be productive player.
01:02:02
So if he loses a step, that definitely hurts his game.
01:02:05
So I'm just not sure how he's gonna fare coming off of an Achilles like, let me paint one optimistic possibility.
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Okay, um, there are three point guards at the 20 tens that are the most athletic to me in their prime.
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Russell Westbrook, John Wall and Derrick Rose.
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Derrick Rose went through injury Hell Bond.
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He's on the other side now, and he is still not.
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He's not an M V P type player, but he's found a way.
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He's found a way to make a game for himself.
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He's found a way to change his game and create different opportunities than he was able to create before and become a player that people value at some level.
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If John Wall, with more athleticism can take a piece of what Derrick Rose did and learn how to create different facets of your game and be better, you know, we talked earlier about they are who they are.
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Derrick Rose is an example to the contrary.
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He was forced.
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He was forced.
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If you ask me because of the injuries and loss of athleticism and I think John Wall, maybe two.
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Yeah, if he's not the same athlete, he's gonna have to come up with something for sure.
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I think he's the potential for him to adapt.
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Is there because this play making his present? He's not relying on being a 20 point scorer and nothing else.
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He is a very good distributor to your point, so he's gonna have a he's got.
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There's a window for him to be a very good player.
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I think his peak is gone.
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Has it worked, Derrick Rose.
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But you know, if you could be a you know 17, 18 points per game guy and throw in eight or nine assists.
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Something like that.
01:03:39
I mean, that's that's more than enough for for Harden.
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And you know we're looking for and be reasonably efficient.
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He is.
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So the other thing I noticed about him is he turns turns it over much less than Russell Westbrook.
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Sure, yeah, a machine.
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It's an advantage.
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So there's little things that he could do that or better than Russell Westbrook.
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It's not gonna be a massive, world changing difference, but it's little things that are better.
01:04:01
Russell Westbrook may give Washington an immediate injection of offensive punch.
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Take a lot of shots to do it, but he may.
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He may give them immediate injection.
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So again, I don't think it's gonna be amazing results for either team.
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But it could be slightly better for both of things.
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Work out. Agree those air.
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Great points.
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Both these guys have something offering both their teams.
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I mean, I can't wait to see how this all unfolds in the locker room.
01:04:24
It can hardly finally find a backcourt mate that he's not strangling at the end of the season.
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Chris Paul was the first victim with Westbrook at the end of the season.
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It's like he's just done with these guys.
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So HOPEFULLY John Wall.
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Third time's the charm.
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You can break that trend.
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Yeah, I think I think what James Harden wants is somebody who's willing to give him the ball whenever he wants it.
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And when James Harden needs a break, can do something semi efficiently and not screw the world up.
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I think that's probably about what he wants and it makes, and it's possible.
01:04:53
It's very possible considering the player that John Will has been.
01:04:56
You see how that manifest coming off that injury? Exactly.
01:05:00
But I think that's gonna about do it for us here.
01:05:02
Bo, I want to thank you again for your presence on this program.
01:05:05
Great to talk with you again after SBC and catch up.
01:05:08
Just kind of get a feel for what you're thinking about this season is gonna be a lot of fun and can't wait to see Mawr top 10.
01:05:15
You know, it's been a while since we've had it on board here, but we're all excited for it.
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So I appreciate you coming on.
01:05:22
It's been my pleasure.
01:05:24
I am so thrilled we're getting back to work.
01:05:26
I'm so thrilled that the MBA is getting at least back to normal at some degree, and it seems like the world's turning in a good direction.
01:05:34
So I'm excited to see where the MBA is, not only at the start of the season, but in the middle of the season and in the playoffs.
01:05:39
And I know you're gonna be along for the ride.
01:05:41
And I'm just I'm just so excited for all these basketball fans and I'm thankful for all of you.
01:05:46
Follow the N B A and follow for what we do on the n b a dot com top 10 and everything else.
01:05:51
It's It's an absolute joy.
01:05:53
Yeah, absolutely.
01:05:54
We're excited to see you back on the program.
01:05:56
And, yeah, thanks for joining us again.
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you with the BCB podcast number 121.
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So glad to be back with you guys this evening.
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And I am very happy to be joined by Bo STS over here.
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He is one of the great voices of MBA TV MBA dot com The pioneer of the infamous um, top 10 rapid fire, which I do want to ask Bo about here in a second here once we get into the podcast.
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But both so glad to have you on and so glad to continue the kind of trend I have going here with NBA TV personalities here had *** Smith on last week.
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He was fantastic.
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So excited to keep the trend going here with you and diamond too little ball this evening.
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I'm excited to be here sake who's a good buddy of mine, and we always enjoy talking hoops.
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Say good night. She's weak.
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We can get on a conversation and talk for hours and hours and hours and, you know, years years ago, that wasn't podcasting, but we should have been podcasting years ago.
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This but yeah, I'm thrilled to join you.
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Yeah, I'm glad to have you here on.
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I have to point out, since the people that are watching this podcast see the sports business classroom banner behind you all here was one of the great voices as well for sports business classroom.
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So if anybody is watching, that's alumni like me of the program know him very well.
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It's a fantastic work with the ask me anythings and all those conversations we had with some of the great people in the basketball industry.
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MBA atmosphere.
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So another accomplishment here for Bo.
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He is definitely one of celebrities here.
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If you know anything about basketball in the NBA, definitely got to get to know this guy.
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He knows his stuff, he's he has a great voice.
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So now that it's all the way here, But I wanna ask you here because I saw on your Twitter feed you have a little post here pinned at the top.
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So apparently you want people to know about this and read your story.
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But if you could just a little short summary for us here, Um, some of the tips minute interview here with Tim Cotto that you did a few years ago about the top 10.
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What can you tell us here about the rapid fire Top 10 and how that came to be and how you became so well known for that kind of trademark as we know it to be a dot com.
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It's weird because it was never something that I set out to be known for.
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Honest to God, it was It was something that sort of happened organically.
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The reason that I started saying Top 10 faster and faster or was really just because we had crap software to be a dot com at the time, Honest to God.
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And so what happens? And this is a little bit technical, but if your audience can follow along, you haven't in and out point, and typically they allow me as somebody doing the voiceover to talk beyond the out point.
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But this software was having problems with that, so I knew that, and I would be aware that we would have to start all over if I didn't get out by the out time.
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So I would just be going along going along going along and realized I had two seconds I just say FBI, come top 10 just as fast I could just to get out as quickly as I could so we could all go home at two in the morning on day.
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Then it grew from there.
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Frankly, the MBA Red**** community was just wonderful to meet.
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People treated me really well on bond.
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The rhyming thing is something that I think I'm afflicted with more than something that I attempt to do.
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There's a there's a There's a condition called clanging that somebody from the Kenyan Literary Review suggests that I have where things, if I want them, Thio can just pop out in rhyme naturally, and the weird thing about it is like if you were to have a rap Olympics, I would imagine people with that condition would be disqualified.
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It's almost like being able to count cards in your head for gambling.
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It's it's the it's the equivalent of that.
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But you know, it's it's a fun thing.
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It's the wildest thing My dream is.
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A kid was to be an announcer for the MBA.
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I'm an announcer for the N B.
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A, and I'm known for something I couldn't have asked for.
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Maura's a kid growing up in and to have all this happened, I'm absolutely over the moon about it.
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And the n b a dot com Top 10 is something that we we do wonderful numbers on.
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We really do.
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So many people get involved.
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So many people love it.
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So many people send me notes.
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I've I've met people from around the world.
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I now dio top tens for the league in Australia, the NBL.
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So it's become a phenomenon.
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I mean, I I can imagine that, you know, I'll be doing even mawr for different leagues coming up soon.
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So I'm just so wonderfully thankful for the MBA fans and basketball fans around the world.
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That's so cool, Bow, and I'm sure I speak for the N B.
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A community myself when we say that we're glad to have.
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You have been watching NBS opportunity that for years and years, and you know you're one of the best in the business, so for sure, but to get into the formal content here today, we're discussing the five Christmas Day games that have been enough with a slate for this year, just so happy.
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First off, the happiest games in the first place.
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We didn't know it was gonna be a December start to the season or January, and the MBA on Christmas is a tradition.
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It's a schedule that every year we're so accustomed to seeing.
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So just so happy that MBA, you know, the players union and the owners were able to come together and make this possible for us to be able to get back before Christmas and have this late.
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But the first game I wanted to discuss here with you Bo, is the pelicans that he This is the 12 o'clock game to kick things off.
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And you know the first thing I have noticed about this game.
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It's like you have to look at the first team that's in this matchup, the pelicans.
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And there's one reason there in this matchup.
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That's because Zion Williamson, himself the number one pick from 2019.
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I think it's a soul presence here on this team that have made them ah, hot commodity and then they're here in this matchup and if we go back to last season, I don't think they got all their appearances in because of the hiatus.
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But they had 30 national TV game scheduled for the Pelicans out of 82 which didn't happen to be 82.
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But that's just an incredible number here.
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So just looking at this matchup, Xilin is on the schedule.
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The heater on the schedule, the heat might be getting slept on here a little bit, just looking at their performance last season.
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And they don't have any national TV matchups in the days leading up to this game.
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And they only have two preseason games at all.
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So, um, double question at you here, but I want to hit you.
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Just, uh, um, you know, Zion.
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Is he enough? You know, are you excited enough to see this matchup with Zion? If, um, you know him so slowly, driving their appearance on this end and then for Miami's sake, like, are they really being slept on here? Some people are saying the Rome is a fluke.
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Like, what are your thoughts on that? Okay, so two things.
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One, obviously Zion is the driver for the pelicans being on television, right? I don't think it's a surprise to anybody.
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And the reason you know this is take Zion off that team.
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Are they on National TV on Christmas.
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No, no chance World.
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No chance.
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So you know, he's a wonderfully exciting player.
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I've I've been around this game since the early nineties with the N B A.
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I've been I've been doing it since 1994 1995 ish something somewhere in there.
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And he's one of the 5678 players that you can think of when they come out.
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It's must see TV.
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You have to see him.
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You have to see what he's gonna dio.
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It was a bit disappointing last year, right, because we open up the season and he's not there.
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He's injured.
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And so, you know, we have the pelicans on TV without him on, and it's just not as good.
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It's just not as exciting.
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He is the person that people want two C s.
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Oh, I think I think that is the reason that they're there.
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I think you're 100% right on that.
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Are the heat getting slept on? Yeah, a little bit, right.
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There were the finalists from last year, and they were a good finalist.
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It wasn't a fluke that they were there.
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They just put together a team that isn't comprised of people that you knew of since they were 14 years old as superstar ballers like Zion.
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We knew when he was 15 years old.
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He had a million Instagram followers because of all the stuff he was doing.
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Uh, he comes there.
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There are people that come up in basketball and they're the number one ranked recruit their whole lives and they're superstars growing up. 14.
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Look, there's a kid name of Monte Bates.
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Who is that now? He is the guy that the whole world is looking at.
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Maybe the best prospect since LeBron James.
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He is the guy that they're building a generation on.
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So Zion is in that mold of people.
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Um, and the Miami Heat have guys who've worked their tails off frankly to be good at what they do, and on top of that, to fit into this modern game in a way that they can take advantage of what the rules are and of the style of play.
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And of that to me, that heat culture matters it ton to get the right guys to buy into that and to really play the defense that they require with the intensity and the constant attention that they require.
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So is that as exciting on television? For the And I hate to use the word casual fan, but that's what it is.
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Is the average fan.
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Maybe not. Maybe.
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You know, I'm to see Jimmy Jimmy Butler really dog somebody in the mid range on T isn't the most exciting thing in the world.
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But if you're a fan, if you're a fan of what he's put in in the career and you know sort of there the thing about Jimmy Butler to me is he really rubs some people the wrong way for a while and buy some people.
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I mean, teammates, right? Uh, but then he hit the heat, and it was perfect, Absolutely perfect.
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His home, they found their guy, and it was perfect.
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So I respect that and, you know, to the degree that if we're saying slept on as in, are we not giving them enough credit for the success they've had in anticipation of the success they might have? I think the answer is yes.
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Um, you know, Are they How many times the heat gonna be on my top 10 without Derrick Jones? Fewer.
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Fewer, right.
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your family on there.
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So I think, you know, you're you're looking at competing interests, right? Uh, quality of play versus entertainment factor? Definitely, Definitely.
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That's a balance.
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That's, you know, it's definitely noticeable.
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You know, you gotta do We really have to consider to audiences like you and me.
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We watched this game in a deep level.
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We study the game all the time everyday, but for the people on the outside, you said it.
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It's like certain styles of play or not very conducive to success on the big screen for ratings.
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And that's the whole talk. Right now.
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It's like ratings are sagging and there's things happening.
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So I think they looked at the schedule, and they really wanted to put those teams that have huge drawls even more than usual because we've seen in the past, the Knicks have gotten that kind of token spot just because they're the Knicks, and you know, that was just kind of the way it went.
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But now it's like let's find the draws like, you know, that he might have been one of those teams.
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It's like, you know, they're not a huge draw, but they're in the final so we have to give him a spot.
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We'll throw him at 12 o'clock when people are still waking up.
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You know I'll be in Denver for that time slot and you know, it's 10 a.
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m.
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Over there and people are still kind of waking up.
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And since stuff so they're like, you know, we could put that on the back burner.
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People will really notice.
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So you made some great points about that.
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It's really a man.
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It's really tough because the league doesn't survive without their television partners in the same way that they are now.
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The television partners have to have good ratings to justify those television contracts.
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So it all works together.
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It really does.
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Um, you know, in a perfect world, does every team generate huge ratings and every team has the same amount of buzz? Probably.
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But you know this.
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This is the world were operating in.
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And I think you know, I think that's an interesting matchup, too, because as much as you want to see Zion do what he's gonna dio, there's a team out there that's gonna stop sign from doing what he's gonna do, too.
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And that's why he That's what they're programmed to do.
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That's what they're born to. Dio. They're equipped.
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I can't wait to see Jimmy versus Zion.
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It's kind of like, Yeah, the unstoppable force Immovable object like Jimmy Butler is not an easy guy to move out of there, but is a train himself.
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So that's one of the matchups I can't wait to see.
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But overall like, yeah, just looking at that matchup on the court, it's gonna be super exciting for a multitude of reasons.
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Brandon Ingram is back in the fold with this Max deal.
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You know, he's got his money, he's been paid.
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He's one of those go to players, so they have a player of their own that's gonna be able to command that attention from the Heat.
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So he's gonna need somebody on him that could really contain him.
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So across the board, it's gonna be very interesting.
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Um, you know, without true holiday, it's gonna be a slightly different dynamic in the backcourt.
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But, I mean, there's a guy named Eric Blood, so that's gonna try to fill the void for him.
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So he's gonna be, you know, definitely a dog over there, and you know his shooting is suspect, but it's just another driver for that team that's gonna make these exciting.
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So from both sides, there's gonna be draws.
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It's gonna be a game that's gonna be fun to watch, even though it's, you know, 12 p.
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m. And it's one of the opener, so to speak.
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I think we end up like when you think about that matchup.
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The thing I think about is my immediate attraction.
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Is the pelicans air on offense, The heater on defense? How are the heat going to stop the pelicans and how are the pelicans gonna handle the intensity of the heat? But what you don't think about is so the heat expend a lot of energy on defense.
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So that's gonna force the pelicans to really play on offense to get anything done.
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Let's go back to the other end of the court, where the heat have some shooters, bond that's gonna force you to rotate and be ready outside that he could get a lot of easy buckets in that matchup to me.
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So I I think there's just I think that there, ah young team is going to require ah, large attention span to be able to keep up with what that veteran heat team does, Uh, to me, they're just They're just so good at exposing your weaknesses.
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Uh, it's they don't have Michael Jordan out there. They don't.
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But they do have smarts.
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They do have guts and people sort of like diminish the value of that.
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I think I think it's really credible.
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I think it's really valuable.
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Absolutely.
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And it's gonna be, uh, you know, it's gonna be a huge battle, but the pelicans gonna have a challenge on their hands.
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I mean, you kind of alluded to it.
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You know, the shooters from Miami, you're going to command a lot of attention.
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But the Pelicans aren't exactly a team that have done a great job off pay attention, paying attention to the defensive game plan every day, every game, going back to last season.
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They're one of the worst teams defensively.
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I think that's a major reason why did they even make the playoffs going into the bubble that finished two and six from last season to end their season? So it's just a bad taste in your mouth.
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But I think for that reason they're gonna have a slight chip on their shoulder going into this Christmas matchup.
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Losing Drew Holiday.
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Those guys have something to prove.
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Their brand has got something to prove now that he's the big, big man on campus, so to speak, because I am still there.
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So, yeah, I'm really excited for it.
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Not just because of the Heat van, but legitimately, because we have kind of like to almost contrasting styles.
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Tough knows defense.
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High flying highlight maker on the other end.
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So that's a great way to start off the day.
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And you'll be up at 10 AM in Denver, right? Absolutely, Absolutely no good to know about it.
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Yeah, couldn't miss that matchup.
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Eso Let's move on here and look at the second matchup of the day that I believe it's at 2 30 PM It's gonna be warriors bucks, man.
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You can't ask for a better matchup, especially in the second time slot here with Yannis staff.
00:15:51
Even without Clay, you know, I'll kind of try to keep him out of this.
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You know, I mentioned played a second last week and, you know, he got him down a little bit, so definitely a tough break for him, But in any case.
00:16:03
I mean, it's gonna be great to see, and one key storyline I'm looking at is we go into this match up is how do the Warriors contain Milwaukee's attack the drive and kick, the incredible spacing? It's like the Bucks have something to offer that the Warriors have had in the past.
00:16:19
The five out, all the spacing, the drive and kick game is gonna be on point the Warriors and not gonna have the same defensive identity.
00:16:27
The head in the past, you know, dollars gone.
00:16:29
Clay is gone.
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They don't have that bogey in the middle that they had.
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Um, you know, there's gonna be a lot of adjustments for them looking at it defensively, So that's that's huge.
00:16:40
They finished 26th in defensive efficiency last season, so we'll have to see what the Warriors can offer up when the Bucks are on the attack.
00:16:47
And there's a guy named Greek freak Yanis writing down the lane, ready to Duncan Currie, as he's done in the past.
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Go back, go back and watch that All star game from from a couple years ago.
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He knows that very well.
00:16:56
Steph Curry, 12 MVPs in a row.
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Yannis is on two MVPs in a row.
00:17:01
Uh, this this is one of the marquee matchups to me.
00:17:04
Like if I were ranking them for the day.
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This may be number one, maybe number two.
00:17:08
As far as just television eyes on it, Steph, coming back is huge.
00:17:12
He has a massive, massive not to be underrated fan base.
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People love that guy.
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Him coming back is gonna be massive, but yeah, honest to me, boy, he's like I said twice.
00:17:26
The defending champ are defending M v P.
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And I think he has more room to grow.
00:17:31
If that's even realistically possible, I think he gets better and better and better.
00:17:36
So it's gonna be fun.
00:17:38
Toe watch that progress for me.
00:17:40
I am fascinated with how the warriors deploy their new number one draft pick.
00:17:47
What sort of defensive responsibilities they assigned to him, how much pressure they allow him to take in that role.
00:17:54
Because, you know, does he guard you honest? Do you let him do something like that? Because you talk about you talk about like, a a challenge and be a potential ego blow on Ben too.
00:18:08
I think it's interesting for me, you know, watching staff working with Andrew Wiggins.
00:18:13
What did they play one game together last year? What is Andrew Wiggins do? Does he learn to be amore efficient player? Because, you know, the critique on his game is that he's not efficient enough.
00:18:22
I heard comments from him today, saying the one game I played with Steph it made the world so much easier because, you know, the term everybody loves on Twitter is gravity, the gravity that surrounds.
00:18:33
Yeah. So Wiggins is gonna have space.
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He's gonna have room.
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Can he do anything with that? Um, and then for Milwaukee, to me, that's a team that's twice been snake bitten in the playoffs two years ago.
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They've they've gone out earlier than they should have gone out.
00:18:48
So what do they do to overcome that? Where they mentally? Because, remember, we've got a quick turnaround this year.
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We were playing just a couple of months ago.
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Eso where they mentally the lineup has changed a bit.
00:19:02
Um, I'm excited to see what that team does mentally, and I'm excited to see what Golden State has now because, like you mentioned the blow of clay losing clay humongous.
00:19:12
Where's Draymond green right now? Can he bring back the same defensive intensity? Can he be a stopper again like he once was? I'm skeptical of that.
00:19:21
Frankly, I don't know that he can, Um, I think he could be very good.
00:19:26
I don't know that he could be the best defender in the N B a. Again.
00:19:29
So I think there's just a lot of question marks that that will start to be answered in this game.
00:19:34
I'll be honest with you, Aaron, When I think of an MBA season normally, and I've said this for years on shows and radio shows and whatever, I start evaluating a team on Christmas Day like Christmas Day going forward.
00:19:47
I don't know what you have in the November 2 December early range.
00:19:52
I think people are sorting stuff out and learning about each other in their new teammates.
00:19:56
Maybe new coaches, new influences, what they've worked on over the summer s o.
00:20:00
It's gonna be tough for me because this is a little more condensed and I'm gonna have to adapt a little bit.
00:20:05
But I am excited to see sort of marquee teams going against each other and marquee stars coming back like Steph Andre.
00:20:13
Me too.
00:20:14
And speaking of dream on Green, I mean, I was looking at him last season.
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He really looked disinterested, you know? He was on a clean that he knew he knew that team wasn't going anywhere.
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So I think he really saved his body.
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He really held himself back.
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You didn't see that fire.
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You didn't see him getting those technical fouls like usual.
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You really just saw him kind of just fade into the background.
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Just kind of accept what was happening.
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Like, you still went out there and played e.
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I mean, it wasn't the same dream on, you know, using cruise control.
00:20:39
I think he thrives on those peak moments, those pressure moments, those very difficult teams that they match up against.
00:20:49
I think that's where he thrives.
00:20:50
If it's a moment where you know there isn't a lot on the line, I don't think he's bringing his a game.
00:20:56
One thing I'd like to see a guy like that do in a situation like that is work on in game situations, things that you can improve upon eso I would like to see, you know, if he's developed anything new to his game.
00:21:10
The loss of clay is hard to overstate.
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Man really is.
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I mean, like that.
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That guy is a guy that is right there with Steph in spacing the defense.
00:21:19
He's as good a pure shooter as I have ever seen his shot fundamentals to me right there with Ray Allen.
00:21:27
Put it in a book. It's a textbook.
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It's just gorgeous to look at, so, you know, And that's just the start of clay Clay.
00:21:35
Not only that, he's a wonderful defensive player, and I think he's just a guy that brings a lot to the locker room.
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Just a lot of chill.
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So they're gonna miss him.
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They're gonna miss him.
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And, you know, like you started this season before the clay injury thinking, Can they get back and sc**** together another title with this? That with the squad? I don't think they're a title team now.
00:21:55
I really don't want the pieces they have in place.
00:21:56
The only the only wildcard, I would say, is if Andrew Wiggins has revolutionized his game.
00:22:03
Everybody knows that there is physical talent.
00:22:06
There can.
00:22:08
Physical talent is not basketball skills to different things.
00:22:13
It can be can be used to take advantage of your basketball skills, but I don't know.
00:22:17
The Andrew Wiggins has put together the basketball skills that matches his physical talent, But if he's done that to some degree, uh, that's the only wildcard I would say otherwise is good as Wiseman, I think, can be, and it is an interesting of pieces I think he could be.
00:22:33
I don't think they have a championship team right now as constructed without Klay Thompson.
00:22:38
I don't either, and that's a great point about clay and everything that the whole team was kind of like.
00:22:42
They're just linked so well.
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One piece.
00:22:46
Everything just kind of gets thrown off like back when they were in their peak. You know, 2016.
00:22:51
It's like the ball is on the string.
00:22:53
It was moving like everybody was in sync.
00:22:55
So it's like, you know, you have a you know you have that chain, you break one piece of the chain, the whole thing falls apart, so that's a great point about it.
00:23:02
I think they're gonna be There's gonna be a very solid team and, you know, one of my friends flak.
00:23:07
The other day it's like, you know, I told him I was like, It's gonna be uphill battle to make the playoffs.
00:23:10
And it was like, Well, you know, we still have drama.
00:23:13
We still have curry.
00:23:14
And about Curry.
00:23:15
I mean, this guy, I think it's gonna be on a mission.
00:23:17
We haven't seen Curry kind of be that solo driver of a team since, you know, prior to Katie's arrival.
00:23:24
So I think from that perspective, it's kind of a silver lining.
00:23:27
I really just wanna, you know, just look at his impact on this team and what he's gonna be able to do.
00:23:32
Just kind of being that guy again. The M v p.
00:23:35
You know, you know, 29 to 30 points per game, you know, throwing up all those shots.
00:23:40
That's gonna be fun.
00:23:41
We haven't seen that curry in a long time.
00:23:43
Well, what you talk about a couple of fascinating things.
00:23:45
I think if you talk to really Golden State fans, people have been in love with that team for a long time.
00:23:50
That 2000, the team that won the championship before the 73 team the 73 wind team lost.
00:23:58
I think that's their favorite iteration prior to Kevin Durant.
00:24:01
Come along.
00:24:02
I think they felt that was the most pure warriors basketball on DSO.
00:24:07
I think it's gonna be interesting.
00:24:08
So many people.
00:24:09
The critique of Steph Curry is that he's had so many good players around him.
00:24:12
Can he do it on his own? You gonna find out now? I mean, I won't be surprised to see him do very well.
00:24:18
Uh, to me, the challenge of this all is that the next time Steph Curry and Klay Thompson lineup in playoff basketball next to each other at at best, Steph Curry's 34 years old? Yeah, at best.
00:24:30
So that hurts.
00:24:31
I mean, Korea 34 is not LeBron a 34.
00:24:34
It's not the same thing.
00:24:35
LeBron from another planet athletically.
00:24:38
Yeah, way don't know what he years.
00:24:40
We're still trying to figure that out Exactly, man.
00:24:42
But like with Steph, him a 34 is a different story.
00:24:47
So I thought that this year could be the one year that they could maybe make a run at it.
00:24:52
Um, can they do it next year? God's gonna be tough.
00:24:55
It's gonna depend on Wiseman.
00:24:57
Maybe Wiggins is somehow better I don't know, but it's just a lot of ifs now with the Warriors, when there used to be no ifs at all, there really are.
00:25:06
And I think it's telling about this team that we've had this, you know, I think it's almost 10 minutes now.
00:25:11
We've talked about the Warriors, where you have the Bucks coming off number one seed, and you know, they were the favorites to win the East, and it's like they're getting no love in this podcast.
00:25:19
So I think the Warriors still have that draw that goes back to your point.
00:25:22
Steph Curry drives this whole thing.
00:25:24
He's back, and that makes him an entire segment of the podcast, like he's that powerful.
00:25:28
He really is.
00:25:29
And, you know, like I said, we started off by saying Yanis two times in a row. M v p.
00:25:34
And Steph twice in a row.
00:25:36
M v p.
00:25:37
But there is something, and we talked about the heat, not getting the shine that they deserve.
00:25:40
There's something about there's a magic about certain players and certain teams that that sparks all in people.
00:25:48
It really does it.
00:25:49
It's the stuff that gets on our top 10 frankly on that Z not necessarily different from winning basketball, but it's also not necessarily the same thing.
00:25:58
Uh, Steph Curry has a magic when a guy's hitting a 35 footer and he's built like your your neighbor.
00:26:05
He's like a skinny little kid.
00:26:06
It looks like a skinny little kid out there.
00:26:08
And he's 6263 It's magical What he did revolutionize the game of basketball.
00:26:14
Eso he has that magic he and that's the draw.
00:26:17
That's the draw that that the people that that put these matchups on Christmas look for.
00:26:22
And Steph Curry is one of those guys that has.
00:26:23
And you know not to say that Yannis doesn't.
00:26:26
I think a lot of people love Yanis, but on it is like LeBron build.
00:26:32
Plus like he's like taller than LeBron bigger than LeBron.
00:26:36
He's truck like LeBron.
00:26:37
But more eso that that doesn't blow people away because the sense to me a little bit with that is like that's unrelated ble.
00:26:47
Um, who else? You know, God, that's curry you can relate to.
00:26:52
If I go to the gym and I keep shooting, I keep shooting Well, it's not gonna happen, but maybe you know, it's it's realistic.
00:26:58
So, uh, there's a magic with stuff that I think that you just some guys have it, and he's one of those guys that just really has big time.
00:27:05
Big time.
00:27:06
We're talking about magic, and there's a guy that Steph Curry played with just a couple of years ago, Kevin Durant.
00:27:11
I mean, this guy brings magic of his own, and another player like this is probably the second or third player we talked about.
00:27:17
Now that's coming off of an injury that we haven't seen playing quite some time.
00:27:21
So he's gonna be back in action against the Celtics.
00:27:23
So this matchup is gonna be huge for a multitude of reasons.
00:27:26
Kyrie and Katie First action.
00:27:28
That's always fun to see from the Celtics perspective.
00:27:31
They had a disappointing playoff run, but Tatum is on board.
00:27:34
They still have Jalen Brown, so it's gonna be an adjustment for them because they have an injury of their own and Kemba Walker.
00:27:40
He's not expected back until early January at the absolute earliest.
00:27:44
So probably later January, once he's re evaluated and he has time to get back into the lineup.
00:27:49
But both teams I mean they have a lot to bring to the table.
00:27:52
And it's a battle of elite wings like Tatum versus Katie is must see stuff.
00:27:57
And Tatum is on track to kind of be a player.
00:28:00
I'm not gonna say he's gonna be as good as Katie, but I mean, he's on track to be one of the great stars in our game from that position.
00:28:06
So that's a huge test for him.
00:28:08
And it's a test that I think he's gonna rise to the occasion to meet and really just proved that he's on the level of some of these elite wings.
00:28:14
You've seen an MBA.
00:28:15
That's for years.
00:28:16
The first time I saw Kevin Durant, he was a junior in high school and he was playing against the number one player in the nation.
00:28:23
And that was Lou Williams on DSO and you could.
00:28:26
Kevin Durant was as skinny as a tripod back then.
00:28:30
Hey, still really skinny now.
00:28:31
But he was He was just super thin, but you could tell his skills were something that we hadn't seen before on a guy with that build.
00:28:40
Um, and so what's gonna be interesting in his return is Kevin Durant combined.
00:28:45
We talked about skills and athletic talent.
00:28:48
He combined those wonderfully unique athletic talent.
00:28:51
So big, so long and yet so coordinated.
00:28:54
I don't know.
00:28:55
The thing that I can't wait to see with him is Where is he athletically? Are we? Are we going to notice a difference? I you know, people always talk about the guy that came back from this.
00:29:06
The first time in basketball memory was Dominique Wilkins, and I was here when that was happening.
00:29:11
Dominique Wilkins obviously start with the Atlanta Hawks years and years and years and years and years ago.
00:29:15
But he to me he always lost a little bit athletically, just a touch.
00:29:21
I think Katie can afford to lose a little bit.
00:29:23
Athletically, I don't think it will cost them that much.
00:29:26
I really because I think his skills are such his back to the basket game, his face up game, his handle he can get and just in Look at what Kobe Bryant did with his career.
00:29:37
Look what Michael Jordan did with his career.
00:29:38
I think in some ways LeBron's doing in his career figuring out easier, more efficient ways to score the basketball as time goes on.
00:29:45
I think Kevin Durant maybe has more ability than any of those people in the sense that he's just built so much bigger than them.
00:29:52
So he can do things that that will work.
00:29:54
So I'm excited to see where Kevin Durant is.
00:29:56
I'm excited to see him play with Kyrie Irving down the stretch and see what that pairing looks like.
00:30:02
And, you know, you mentioned Jayson Tatum.
00:30:05
If you if you look at his stats over over the course of his early career, I think it was like 13 points a game, 15 points a game, a second year, 23 points a game, his 30.
00:30:14
He made this massive leap forward.
00:30:16
His skill set is good Lord.
00:30:20
He makes shots that you're like.
00:30:21
He shouldn't be making that shot and he just makes him over and over and over again.
00:30:27
Uh, to me, he is the guy on that team and I don't know that, you know, we always talk about like declaring Who's the guy? I don't know that that really matters honestly, but I think he is that guy ahead of Jalen Brown, who's enormously talented.
00:30:40
He was the number one player in America when he was in high school.
00:30:43
So these are These are guys with wonderful pedigree.
00:30:45
And then you mentioned Kemba Walker as well, Who's the veteran and multiple all stars.
00:30:49
So I think Boston, to me, is another one of those teams.
00:30:53
And you I think you mentioned it.
00:30:54
Disappointed in the playoffs a little bit way.
00:30:57
Keep wanting eso.
00:30:58
Here's the teams in the East that we keep expecting more from Philadelphia.
00:31:02
70 Sixers Never did it.
00:31:03
Never remember it was trust the process.
00:31:05
Trust the process.
00:31:06
The process didn't work.
00:31:07
Yeah, some people say it's still going.
00:31:10
It's like it hasn't finished like we're still waiting.
00:31:12
The process has to yield something at some point beyond a conference semifinals on and it's, I don't know when the process started, but what do we 78 years now? Six.
00:31:23
I don't know, but in any case, I I feel like we needed more from the Sixers.
00:31:28
I feel like we needed more from the Bucks, and I feel like we needed Mawr from the Celtics.
00:31:32
So who's gotten in the way? The Raptors in the heat? Uh, those are the two teams that have gotten in the way from these three teams that we expect magical things from, um I don't know that the heat and the Raptors wanna go away.
00:31:48
I don't know that way to be crowned these teams in the East that have these young stars that we followed forever and ever and ever.
00:31:57
But, you know, I don't know that the Raptors in the heat just wanna walk away and say, Okay, guys, you're the stars.
00:32:03
You can have it now.
00:32:04
I just don't think it works out that way.
00:32:07
So I'm fascinated to see if the Celtics could make the leap.
00:32:11
And now, you know, we talk about teams competing for the Eastern Conference Championship.
00:32:16
You don't Brooklyn's not gonna wait right now.
00:32:19
There's not a huge like they're going for because they have.
00:32:22
Yeah, the window is now, and it's It's not five years from now.
00:32:27
It's not three years, right? It's right now, so they're all hands on deck.
00:32:32
The East is gonna be fascinating to me with a lot of teams press and go right now.
00:32:37
Um and I just don't think that it's going to clear the way easily for any of the teams that we've anointed as the media on that being Philly, Boston and Milwaukee.
00:32:48
I don't think it clears the way easily for them.
00:32:50
They may win it.
00:32:51
They may.
00:32:52
But if they win it, they earned it.
00:32:53
Oh, yeah, they earned.
00:32:55
You have to because, yeah, the East is just It's really gotten competitive much more than we've seen in the past.
00:33:00
I mean, we're talking about the top.
00:33:02
Even if you look at the bottom like I mentioned on Twitter yesterday, you think about the Wizards, who have just made a huge move.
00:33:08
We're gonna talk about in a minute.
00:33:09
You think about the Hawks that have retooled you think about, You know, it seems that the bottom Charlotte should be pretty solid, like those teams at the bottom will have something to say if they want to find their way into the playoff race.
00:33:20
So it's not just a top loaded conference like it's pretty deep, which is a lot to say compared to where we were a few years ago.
00:33:26
It's come along some of these teams getting to the playoffs is the objective.
00:33:30
Now I know that's true in Atlanta.
00:33:32
I have to believe that's true in Charlotte as well.
00:33:35
You wouldn't make you wouldn't pay Gordon Hayward all that money.
00:33:38
You overpaid him and you knew you were over paying him.
00:33:40
But that's e think they sort of accepted.
00:33:42
Where? Small market team.
00:33:43
We're not a big draw to get somebody in here.
00:33:46
We have to pay a little more than they're they're worth.
00:33:48
They did it.
00:33:49
Gordon Hayward.
00:33:50
Whether you think it's a smart move or not, they did it and that they're putting their cards on the table there, saying, We got to get in the playoffs now we've got to make a step forward.
00:33:58
Um, and that's a lot of teams in the East.
00:34:02
You really you hit on something good, their teams or teams air trying, trying, they're not trying to lose.
00:34:08
Now they're trying to win now.
00:34:11
Yeah, I wanna go back to the point you were making about Katie earlier, and you were talking about him being able to come back from that injury because of his unique build, and that reminds me of an article I read by my product.
00:34:22
I think he's does the work for explanation in the past, but he spoke about this, and he said that Katie has a variety of moves.
00:34:29
He has this natural dip in his body that just doesn't require a ton of leg strength like he has a very fluid motion.
00:34:35
There's a cushion, and the shooting percentages, like basically what he was trying to say is like Katie was so good.
00:34:40
He was here before the injury.
00:34:42
If he loses 10 or 20% of his player, he goes from like Okay, he goes from arguably the best player in the game to a top 10 player.
00:34:48
A top 10 player is still a top 10 players.
00:34:51
You have him and Kyrie on the roster together.
00:34:54
I mean, you're still going places.
00:34:56
So I think that's why Brooklyn was so comfortable to pay him the max money coming off Nicki Lease because they knew he has a cushion, a humongous cushion that separates him from almost any other MBA player and will allow him to come back in the lineup and still be, uh, you know, 20 plus point per game score on a pretty good efficiency.
00:35:14
I mean, if he loses a little bit of efficiency like, hey, you go from being in the 99th percentile, too 85th or 88.
00:35:21
Something like that. It's like, Hey, we'll take it.
00:35:23
That's fine.
00:35:24
Here's the thing about Katie to me that I will remember forever.
00:35:28
He faced down LeBron James in the NBA Finals, and individually, he was better than LeBron James individually, not just part of a better team.
00:35:39
He was individually better than LeBron in an MBA Finals.
00:35:44
Who does that? Who in the world? Yeah, extraordinary.
00:35:51
You have to be out of this world extraordinary.
00:35:54
And he did it.
00:35:55
And that's the sort of talent that he has.
00:35:57
And also, I think it's the respect he garners around the league.
00:36:02
I remember LeBron James was asked after they beat the Warriors in the finals, and then the Warriors came back and smoked him with Katie.
00:36:08
What was the difference? K D That's it. Yeah.
00:36:14
He's like, If you if you could say to me, Bo, you get to be anyone MBA, anyone active NBA player in his prime for a day.
00:36:23
Who do you wanna be? He's on the short list.
00:36:25
He's on the short list, man.
00:36:27
I mean, you know it is LeBron.
00:36:29
It's k d. I don't know.
00:36:31
It's Steph.
00:36:32
Maybe I don't know, but e I mean, that's what hey is of that sort of talent.
00:36:39
And like you said, he has room.
00:36:41
He has a margin of error.
00:36:43
Uh, he he you know, he can also tinker with his game in the way that Kobe and MJ did.
00:36:49
Thio figure out other ways to score easily that don't require him, you know, dribbling two dribbles along the baseline and flying through and stuff and on people he can figure out other ways to do.
00:37:00
It s so I think he's going to be very good.
00:37:04
Uh, probably better than Kyrie already.
00:37:07
Just right away.
00:37:08
I really believe that.
00:37:10
I mean, I just I just think he is of that sort of level.
00:37:13
Eso I expect more of him than I do have nearly anyone.
00:37:18
I think you could just rely on that one leg fade away for an entire game.
00:37:22
You could just say I'm gonna be dark today. 20.
00:37:24
So, what's the word project I'm gonna be for a day? Yeah, yeah, yeah, That's how talented he is.
00:37:34
He just takes parts of people's games, and he's good to go, but the next matchup on the docket, we're looking at Mavericks Lakers.
00:37:41
So We had four incredible matchups between these teams last season.
00:37:45
I went back and looked to the scores.
00:37:46
The Lakers did take three out of four.
00:37:48
LeBron outplayed Luca and many of those matchups.
00:37:51
But I mean Lucas back in Year three. He's better than ever.
00:37:54
So you're looking at those two for being to Well, we're talking about highlight guys next in line like when you're looking at.
00:38:02
I'm thinking about Luca.
00:38:04
When I when I consider what he brings to the table, I think about LeBron.
00:38:07
You take away the incredible, just ridiculous leaping ability like that, just Zell quickness of getting up and down the court in, like, three seconds.
00:38:15
You take that one part of his game away.
00:38:18
You have Luca like he has everything else in his game like he has the passing.
00:38:23
He has the scoring ability.
00:38:24
You know the vision is there.
00:38:26
The I Q.
00:38:27
The basketball I Q is on an incredible level.
00:38:29
This guy could get your triple doubles, you know, at age 21.
00:38:32
I mean, that's saying a lot.
00:38:33
That's stuff that we saw from LeBron when he was his age.
00:38:35
So it's like the similarities air there.
00:38:38
I'm going to say something that's blasphemous.
00:38:40
I think he's better in some ways than LeBron at the same age.
00:38:43
E mean that he's a better outside shooter without any question without any question.
00:38:49
Hey, faced better competition when he was 18 years old than LeBron did.
00:38:53
He came over to this league having played in the Euro League at the highest level M v p of the euro league.
00:39:01
So I e.
00:39:02
I think he starts off.
00:39:03
I think, you know, like you said, he does not have LeBron's explosive vertical ability.
00:39:07
I think he may have better lateral moves than LeBron.
00:39:11
LeBron is a straight line driver.
00:39:13
LeBron decided.
00:39:14
Dink Dink, Dink, Dink Dink Luca could do that to a degree.
00:39:18
He can shake you degree, Um, and his passing ability hand.
00:39:23
LeBron is one of the best path passes I've ever seen.
00:39:25
Luca Luca's right there, LeBron.
00:39:29
May I mean that's that's sort of a pick him, maybe LeBron.
00:39:32
I think magic is the best pastor I've ever seen.
00:39:35
But right there behind him is those guys is particularly faras people that air big and ball handlers.
00:39:40
Those guys have extraordinary talent, a guy that gets forgotten, a lot in that conversations Penny Hardaway.
00:39:46
But yeah, I think there's a There's an argument to be made, and I haven't I just thinking about it.
00:39:53
I haven't even looked at it statistically that Luca is as good at this point in his career as LeBron Waas.
00:39:58
You can look it up.
00:40:01
Yeah, you can look it up.
00:40:02
His His shooting is certainly vastly better than LeBron's Waas.
00:40:07
You can see it's LeBron stepping back from three, you know, no efficiency at all.
00:40:13
So I would say I'd say, You know, it's it's sort of pick him.
00:40:15
If you want the athleticism, it's LeBron.
00:40:17
If you want the skill and shooting ability, it's Luca.
00:40:20
But I think I think there's something similar.
00:40:22
I think it's good that you mentioned them together like that, too, because one of the things that Luca has that I think underrated is when he's playing off that pick and roll, he's got a body frame that's thick, like LeBron's little contact. Right.
00:40:35
When you're going to the full, the contact doesn't throw him off.
00:40:37
He's not flailing out of screen like I just about did there.
00:40:40
He's ableto hang in there with that contact that is another gift that LeBron had and the weird thing.
00:40:48
And this is this is where, when you're young and in basketball, media or playing, you learn 20 years down the road.
00:40:56
Luke has taken from LeBron what LeBron taught along the way.
00:41:00
He's learned from that, and he's incorporated his game into that in his game when he's 21.
00:41:06
So now when Lucas, 30 or 35 the next kid comes along, that's 18.
00:41:11
He's gonna have learned everything that LeBron did and everything that Luca did, and he's gonna have that when he's 21.
00:41:17
That's how the game grows on DSO for Luca.
00:41:21
I really, really, really am excited to see how he gets better.
00:41:26
What he does better because, you know, you look at him, you're like, What can he do better? He's already a league like Yeah, like in the Peanuts.
00:41:35
Last year, I was like, Name me five better players.
00:41:38
Name me five.
00:41:39
I don't know that I could name five better than Luca.
00:41:41
He was that good.
00:41:43
So I was excited to see the Maverick signed James Johnson to protect him a little e.
00:41:52
I was joking around on Twitter because the Morris brothers were giving him Luca, you know, little physical threats out there.
00:41:59
They definitely picked on him.
00:42:01
He's more threatening in the league than James Johnson.
00:42:03
Yeah, a black No.
00:42:05
You're watching something around that place who you are.
00:42:09
You're not messing with James Johnson.
00:42:11
Oh, absolutely not.
00:42:12
So, you know, this matchup is so incredible because it's like these two players got so much attention, but they're both made moves to really kind of bring themselves up in that conference.
00:42:22
So you're looking at two players.
00:42:23
You're looking at shrewder for the Lakers.
00:42:25
You're looking at Josh Richardson for the Mavericks.
00:42:27
I think both of those guys, we're gonna play pivotal roles in this game.
00:42:30
Shrewder wants to be a starter.
00:42:32
He made that known.
00:42:33
I think it was just yesterday he was on the, you know, when The media day.
00:42:37
And they were speaking to him about what he expects from this season, and he made it clear he wants to be a starter.
00:42:42
So I was getting Carmelo Anthony vibes from him.
00:42:44
It wasn't quite sure how to take that, but he's capable.
00:42:47
I mean, the guy has displayed an ability to be a great floor general last season.
00:42:52
He came off the bench, but I think it either role. He's very good.
00:42:55
And if we're thinking about one of the great light, comes from last season from L.
00:42:59
A.
00:43:00
It was Avery Bradley, Danny Green, Braun Davis and JAVALE McGee.
00:43:04
So if you take out Green and Avery Bradley, you put intruder.
00:43:08
And Wesley, um, you know, you think about Wesley Matthews, you know, you could approximate that kind of impact of those guys had together so I can see where his you know, his influence in the starting lineup will be felt.
00:43:20
It's gonna be It's gonna be a great fit for him cause he's improved as a player since he was in Atlanta down here.
00:43:26
You know, I saw him play a little bit in his earlier days.
00:43:28
I'm sure you will well, and he's a different player.
00:43:31
He's really learned a lot in his shot, has come a long way.
00:43:33
Specifically, I think that's a really good point.
00:43:35
I think his shot is much better than it used to be.
00:43:37
And I think that's an important point because the concern with those two is that LeBron needs the ball in his hands to be successful.
00:43:43
Shrewder needs the ball in his hands to be successful.
00:43:45
Who's shooting the ball? Well, the answer is LeBron.
00:43:47
Of course what? I think there's a way to manage that, too.
00:43:50
I think if it's important to shrewder start, I think you can start on both and maybe LeBron place the first six minutes Shooter plays the 1st 12 minutes, and then LeBron comes back in and place them into, and then you just sort of shift them in tow, alternating groups after the start.
00:44:05
And if if being a starter is that important shooter, you could probably accommodate him on make both of those happened to meet Dennis.
00:44:11
Shrewder is as good as anyone in the N B A at blowing by his defender.
00:44:18
I don't know that there's a quicker guy.
00:44:20
His first is bizarre quick.
00:44:23
It's insane so he can break down a defense.
00:44:27
And so imagine shrewder breaks passed his first man.
00:44:31
The help comes and there's Anthony Davis swooping along the baseline.
00:44:35
He's gonna have.
00:44:36
He's gonna have opportunities to set up guys like he's never had before, and that's where he's gotta learn.
00:44:41
He's gonna say, OK, that's not you know Steven Adams, who's very good.
00:44:46
That's Anthony Davis, who's several levels beyond that.
00:44:49
I can set him up and he can bring that home.
00:44:51
So I think that's gonna be fascinating for him.
00:44:53
Josh Richardson is a good piece for the Dallas Mavericks, too, and I think the thing that Josh Richardson is gonna find out is there's There's a similarity in basketball and soccer in this, to me is you have to always be aware when you don't have the ball of where you are.
00:45:10
And with Luca Donncha, he's a special basketball player.
00:45:13
So if you get into positions where you are open where you are free, he's going to find you.
00:45:19
So his movement without the ball, particularly when Luca has it to create opportunities for himself, Thio ease.
00:45:26
The pressure from Lucca is gonna be critical for me, and I think he's able to do that.
00:45:31
I think you know I talked to you earlier about Christmas is when I start to evaluate teams in a normal year, I think there's there's gonna be a month and a half learning period for these guys to figure out what they're supposed to be doing out there on the court.
00:45:42
We won't have it perfect yet.
00:45:43
We'll see some of some of the warts on Christmas Day, but I think that's the thing to track is how they adapt to the dominant team mates.
00:45:52
Three other interesting thing I saw in L.
00:45:54
A is that I think they were talking about Anthony Davis going for this year's M v p.
00:45:58
I saw that e three m v p to me is a young man's award. Definitely.
00:46:07
Oh, yeah, regular season award and LeBron doesn't care about a regular season award.
00:46:11
Give me championships.
00:46:14
Give me rings.
00:46:15
I wanna catch MJ.
00:46:16
That is, that's the game he's playing right now.
00:46:18
He's trying to win championships, and if Anthony Davis wants to win a regular season MVP, I can see LeBron facilitating that and making him very happy and and scoring 23 points a game, 22 points a game.
00:46:31
Well, scores 32.
00:46:33
And I think that could work, eh? So what I'm saying is, I think there's a lot of opportunities for happiness in L.
00:46:39
A E think they can manage that team in a way that every player gets individually what they want or at least every important player.
00:46:45
And then, um, they can they conserve, realign at the playoffs and go for that team goal.
00:46:51
That's in LeBron's interest, for sure.
00:46:53
That team is just so you know, they're so connected.
00:46:56
You know, You go back to the bubble and you look at how they kind of work together.
00:46:59
Even before the bubble, they're always on the same page.
00:47:02
They were always rooting for each other.
00:47:03
You know, their their dad and their high five and they're hugging each other, you know, post championship.
00:47:08
You know, of course, they were all, you know, in this great mood, like they're a great team.
00:47:11
They have great camaraderie.
00:47:12
They have great connections all the way up and down the roster.
00:47:15
I don't think this year will be any different for them, but one team right across the road that is gonna have challenges with that.
00:47:21
We've kind of read about that in the past few days.
00:47:23
If you read the athletic, you know about what the Clippers have dealt with their coming from the opposite perspective.
00:47:29
So they have this much talent.
00:47:30
Is the Lakers Do They signed Serge Ibaka in the off season.
00:47:34
They have pieces for days that resigned.
00:47:36
Marcus Morris, they're coming at you with pieces from all over the floor.
00:47:40
You know, from guard.
00:47:41
Played a wing too big, getting rid of Harold.
00:47:44
You know, I think it's gonna be a huge difference maker for them, but ultimately, it just comes down to how these guys gonna connect with each other.
00:47:51
You know, you're bringing back largely the same roster.
00:47:54
You know, you jettison Harold, but for the most part, it's the same Lou Williams.
00:47:58
Reggie Jackson's resigned, which actually kind of surprised me a little bit.
00:48:03
But you know, Paul George and Co.
00:48:05
I Oh, wow, they're getting this preferential treatment.
00:48:07
We don't like that. We don't enjoy that.
00:48:09
Like, that's not gonna change.
00:48:10
I mean, the stars definitely are treated a little bit differently from the 10th and 11th man on the roster.
00:48:16
There's no doubt about that, but I'm just curious to see how that's on a going to translate to the court and specifically against the Nuggets.
00:48:23
That was the team that really kicked them out of the playoffs, and the schedule makers knew what they were doing with this match up together for a reason.
00:48:31
This is gonna be Paula Georges, um, time to get his reputation back because his reputation is absolutely destroyed.
00:48:38
Looking at Twitter, no one gives him any respect anymore. He's a choker.
00:48:42
Uh, you know, he's blowing smoke.
00:48:44
He's saying that he didn't get to run, pick and rolls last season.
00:48:47
He ran a bunch of pin downs and he was like a spot up shooter, which the stats bear that out to be false.
00:48:53
Hey, ran plenty of pick and rolls.
00:48:55
He ran less actions off the off the pick off the down screens, so that's obviously false.
00:49:01
But there's gonna be keys for him to be able to get back on track.
00:49:04
And if you have one less stout defender toe worry about Jeremy grants out of the picture.
00:49:09
This is his time to go out there and get 30 35 reassert himself.
00:49:14
So that's what I expect from him in this matchup.
00:49:16
I think y it's gonna be great, but Paul George is going to take this, and it's an opportunity to remind people I'm still here.
00:49:22
I'm still I'm all in B A material.
00:49:24
I'm still one of the great wings in this game.
00:49:27
I think it's important that he does that, too, right? I feel like it's important not for just him, but I think for him mentally he needs to reassert himself.
00:49:35
I think, for his teammates to see that, I think, for Clippers fans to see that, I think for the league to see that, Um, you're right.
00:49:43
It is playoff Paul.
00:49:45
That takes the bad rap, right? So it is really real.
00:49:48
Redemption is I'm in June and July or whatever, but I think he has to start working Thio to rehab that now.
00:49:57
And the other thing I think is important is the Clippers overall have toe redevelop some chemistry.
00:50:04
Um, I've like Lou Williams is the coolest guy in the league.
00:50:09
Is that just everybody sort of gravitates.
00:50:11
That guy thinks he's.
00:50:13
I think he can play a part in that as a bridge builder, and I hope that he I hope that he does, because that team needs to come together and they may.
00:50:22
They may trade Lou for all I know, but I think you know they need to come together and they need to be in a better frame of mind that got a new coach now.
00:50:31
eso maybe.
00:50:34
But that lost last year.
00:50:35
It wasn't just that they lost.
00:50:38
It was how they lost.
00:50:39
That was particularly painful.
00:50:41
They choked it away.
00:50:42
They really they choked it.
00:50:44
And so for them, they have to.
00:50:47
Not all They have to come back.
00:50:48
They have to prove who they were.
00:50:50
And then in their own town, for now, in their own building is the team. That's the champs.
00:50:57
They've just got a lot of hurdles to overcome. They can.
00:51:01
It would be a great redemption story.
00:51:02
And they certainly have the talent. Cohen.
00:51:04
Paul. George.
00:51:05
Okay, you already got the talent.
00:51:06
So But doing that is tough.
00:51:09
And, you know, like you said and you made a good point, the schedule makers knew what they were doing because who they're looking at.
00:51:15
Nicola Yokich.
00:51:16
Jamal Murray.
00:51:17
Those guys again that took it from them.
00:51:19
It's gonna be fun to watch them. Fantastic.
00:51:22
There's gonna be a fantastic way to end the day.
00:51:24
You know, our nightcap is gonna be Yokich is gonna be Paul.
00:51:27
George is gonna be CO y and I mean last thing on this I mean, you go and look at who these guys have now it Z you know, it's all the way up and down these rosters.
00:51:37
ITT's competitive basketball, and I'm interested to see how AH, guy like you know Yokich and Jamal respond to this because historically, Jamal Murray has been up and down player.
00:51:48
So I really want to see if that bubble performance was a flash in the pan or it was something that he's gonna grab with him.
00:51:54
Take with him going forward because if he does, Denver launches into that conversation.
00:52:00
And I'm not just being a fun story, but actually legitimate, like title contender.
00:52:05
And for Jamal Murray, it could mean an all MBA birth, All Star birth or individual accolades for him to give him that confidence he's seeking.
00:52:13
So I'm interested to see how he moves forward from one of the great performances playoff performances we've seen in recent history.
00:52:20
There were a couple of stars born in the bubble.
00:52:23
Jamal Murray is one of those, I think Donovan Mitchell, Although he was already a known name, I think he became a bit more of a star in the bubble.
00:52:31
Um, but what? Jamal Murray did some of the shots that he made some of the highlights that he provided for us and the fact that he just kept doing it and doing it and doing it and doing it over and over and over again, and teams couldn't find an answer for him.
00:52:44
I think that has to give him confidence as a player, and if I were him, I would be the one guy that's really glad this season's coming back right away.
00:52:54
Oh, yeah, I want to capitalize on that, right.
00:52:56
I would want to reestablish that.
00:52:58
I want to in grain that in who I am, I am that player.
00:53:01
That wasn't a fluke.
00:53:02
That is me.
00:53:04
So I think it's important for him to do that because, like you said, if you've got Yokich, who's a Unicorn type player, just all sorts of bizarre skills that really work in the MBA today, Uh, and and Murray, who can be an elite score now we can.
00:53:20
We can talk about him in the in terms of like 26 27 28 points a game and pair that with the rest of what they have in Denver.
00:53:29
Some of it, I don't know if it works.
00:53:31
Some of it I dio you know, I'm excited.
00:53:35
I'm excited for that team.
00:53:37
The wild card for me is what is Porter have, uh, you know, because I think there's really talent there.
00:53:45
Uh, and he delivered that consistently.
00:53:48
And does it fit next to Yokich? Does it fit next to who? They have those air questions I can't wait to see answered because, you know, you talk, Murray, you talk.
00:53:58
Yeah.
00:53:59
Okay, let's let's find another guy that's really there.
00:54:02
And I think it could be him stepping into that role.
00:54:05
Absolutely.
00:54:06
Wholeheartedly.
00:54:07
Agree on that one.
00:54:08
I know.
00:54:09
We're running a lot of little long here, guys.
00:54:10
You all night, but one last segment here.
00:54:13
Just wanna cover with you this trade that really struck us out of nowhere last night.
00:54:17
You know, I'm sitting at my dinner table.
00:54:19
I'm just kind of reading some articles and just kind of minding my own business.
00:54:23
And then all of a sudden, they dropped this on us, you know, right at the start of individual workouts for the season and three weeks away from the regular season.
00:54:30
And this is something that we've heard whispers about in the past the past few weeks.
00:54:35
But apparently from what I heard, the G.
00:54:37
M's came back together.
00:54:39
I guess they just picked up the phone.
00:54:40
They said, Hey, let's go over this again.
00:54:42
Are you sure you want to do this trade? Because we talked about it before and we hung up the phone.
00:54:46
So maybe this is something that could benefit us.
00:54:48
And they said, Oh, you know, what the heck.
00:54:50
Let's go ahead and swap.
00:54:51
You know, they're making similar money, like I looked up their contracts and there's only $100,000 difference between the money for Westbrook and John Wall, and it's It's so eerily similar not just how much they're making, but the kind of player they are.
00:55:05
Which brings into question What is James Harden looking for? If the reports are saying that he wants somebody he wasn't feeling Russell Westbrook.
00:55:13
He likes John Wall.
00:55:14
What does he see in him? They're both fiery players.
00:55:17
They're both explosive.
00:55:18
They're both streaky shooters.
00:55:20
They're both good passers.
00:55:21
So what's the difference between the play style? So that's the big question I need answered going forward into this season, how that's going to translate on the court.
00:55:29
I'm not sure John Wall still seems to be a sketchy fit with with hardened I mean, John Wall.
00:55:35
I saw something like yesterday, believe it or not, saying that John Wall, back when he was playing was even worse off the ball in terms of just moving and staying active than Westbrook Waas.
00:55:46
So if you look at it from that perspective, it's like I don't know how this works out. It's clones.
00:55:51
Eso Here's Here's what I would say.
00:55:53
The reports indicate that there were some personality problems between John Wall and Bradley Beal.
00:55:58
Right, so we start there.
00:56:00
Russell Westbrook is the Mawr proven commodity at this very moment because we just don't know how John Wall's gonna come back.
00:56:07
Hopefully, you know, from all the reports that we've seen, he looks really good.
00:56:10
So hopefully he is good.
00:56:12
John Wall has averages more assists per game than Russell Westbrook does.
00:56:16
He's a little bit better of a passer, so maybe that helps a James Harden a little bit right.
00:56:21
It's not a ton of help, but it's a little bit on then, for for the Washington Wizards, The thing that's interesting to me is so if Russell Westbrook Let's just assume that Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal get along.
00:56:34
Does this get them in the conversation of an eight seed if it works out? I asked this on Twitter the other day.
00:56:40
What's the best possible realistically possible outcome of Bill and Westbrook together for Washington? Is it the eighth seed in the playoffs? And you make it and you're a playoff team and you get a couple home playoff games and maybe you build from there.
00:56:55
Is it a second round playoff team? Can you get through a round of the Eastern Conference? I don't know about that, but, yeah, I think the thing that's interesting to me is more.
00:57:05
The Washington side is what's the absolutely peak? Because if if Wall and Beal weren't gonna work together and let's, let's say Bills, their best player, he is their best player.
00:57:15
He's their best known commodity, and you're not keeping deal.
00:57:18
If walls there, then I think it's I think it's a fascinating move because it's really ask yourself this.
00:57:25
Who else could you have traded those guys for? They had to be traded for each other, right? That's it, right? Nobody.
00:57:31
Nobody's gonna fall for that trade any other way.
00:57:33
It's not that they're bad players.
00:57:35
It's the contract, right? If they were both on one year, $7 million contract? Yeah, maybe Maybe I entertained.
00:57:42
Have them? Sure, that's the ER.
00:57:44
It's the contract.
00:57:45
That's the deal.
00:57:46
It's not the players so much.
00:57:47
It's the contract.
00:57:48
That's the deal.
00:57:49
Eso eso I I can't wait to see it.
00:57:53
I don't know.
00:57:55
Just look.
00:57:56
Rush is a fun player for me is a top 10 guy.
00:57:59
Oh, yeah, But if you're every time since you've been on the top 10 just like go back to your history.
00:58:03
Like all his highlights in O.
00:58:05
K.
00:58:06
C.
00:58:07
He has to be one of the probably five most frequent appearances on that.
00:58:10
Like he.
00:58:11
Maybe it's LeBron.
00:58:13
It's him.
00:58:14
For a while, it was Blake.
00:58:16
Griffin was on there a ton, but Westbrook's up there with anybody.
00:58:20
What, up there with anybody.
00:58:22
But that's not I'm a top 10 announcer.
00:58:24
He's a coach.
00:58:25
This is a coach that you're talking about. Sorry about that.
00:58:28
He's a coach that you're talking about, you know, in Washington that wants to get something out of those players.
00:58:35
Does that work? Does that work.
00:58:37
That's a different equation.
00:58:39
Um, and I don't know how you get You can't get those players.
00:58:43
They're They're at an age now where they're not gonna be different players.
00:58:46
Yeah, true they are.
00:58:48
They're they're what they are set in their ways.
00:58:50
Exactly.
00:58:51
I didn't think John Walls a little better at his peak for James Harden, and this is just a little the half step.
00:58:56
I think it's a little better for James Harden, so we'll see what that translates into if it works out that way.
00:59:03
But the Russell Westbrook peace in Washington, I just don't know.
00:59:06
Look, you know, at SBC, Tommy Sheppard, their GM is a friend of the program.
00:59:11
I'm Tommy.
00:59:12
A number of times I love Tommy, and I wanted to work out for him.
00:59:15
I just don't know, you know.
00:59:18
It's probably better in the sense that you've you've created a better locker room.
00:59:22
I just don't know what the best case scenario is that they're not winning a championship.
00:59:26
E don't think.
00:59:28
Do you think there is a way that they get to the Eastern Conference finals? E really don't just the best.
00:59:33
What's the best they could dio I would say six seed in the playoffs.
00:59:37
If I'm thinking about a dream scenario, everything comes together because the talent is there.
00:59:41
Thomas Brian is a nice player.
00:59:43
No more is definitely going to take another step. Interesting.
00:59:46
They've been building a nice roster, but at the end of the day, Westbrook is too much of our liability.
00:59:50
Like somebody was on Twitter earlier, Making a highlight tape of is last season in Houston, and there were like three or four shots like at the end of the game that were either bricks or air balls, like just jump shots from the mid range or three.
01:00:04
So he's one of the most dreadful jump shooters in the league.
01:00:07
His free throw shooting is tank, so the combination of those two factors doesn't really bode well for somebody in the playoff scenario where every team is hunting you, they're hunting your weaknesses.
01:00:17
That's just not gonna work well, so to answer your question, I don't see how they even make it out of the first round because you're probably playing a Philadelphia.
01:00:25
They're playing a Toronto.
01:00:26
They're playing a Milwaukee That's just too much to overcome, in my opinion, so I looked up the stats today.
01:00:34
Russell Westbrook had his career high effective field goal percentage last year.
01:00:40
His career high was last year with the Houston Rockets.
01:00:42
You want to know what it was? I'm sure it's not saying much.
01:00:44
49.
01:00:46
3% career high.
01:00:48
Wow, career high. Incredible.
01:00:50
He's not.
01:00:51
He's not an efficient player.
01:00:53
He's not.
01:00:54
And I know we live in an age of efficiency.
01:00:56
He's not that.
01:00:57
Look, if if you need a guy that can get off a shot with three seconds left, he could get off a shot.
01:01:04
Don't talk about that.
01:01:05
I don't know what's going, but it may not know, but he could get a shot off.
01:01:08
So I just, you know, I it's gonna be interesting to me to see how they work out.
01:01:14
But again, I just keep thinking Best case in their best case scenario in Houston there, they're not doing anything.
01:01:19
Yeah, I think it's a similar story hoping these guys, I don't think I don't think it changes the fortunes for either team.
01:01:25
But, you know, the big question for each side is like for Washington, like we just talked about, how far can they go.
01:01:30
I think they're very fun.
01:01:31
I think they're competitive, but I don't see them really making any huge steps.
01:01:35
And then in Houston, it's really about what are you gaining? So it's like you get a pick and return that won't convey until 2023 at the earliest.
01:01:44
Hi, John Wall that, unlike Katie, who we just talked about, is not gonna be.
01:01:49
He doesn't have the luxury off that margin of error that we talked about.
01:01:53
Not 6 10 6 11 7 ft.
01:01:56
He's 64 and he actually did rely a lot on his speed and burst to be productive player.
01:02:02
So if he loses a step, that definitely hurts his game.
01:02:05
So I'm just not sure how he's gonna fare coming off of an Achilles like, let me paint one optimistic possibility.
01:02:13
Okay, um, there are three point guards at the 20 tens that are the most athletic to me in their prime.
01:02:21
Russell Westbrook, John Wall and Derrick Rose.
01:02:24
Derrick Rose went through injury Hell Bond.
01:02:29
He's on the other side now, and he is still not.
01:02:32
He's not an M V P type player, but he's found a way.
01:02:35
He's found a way to make a game for himself.
01:02:38
He's found a way to change his game and create different opportunities than he was able to create before and become a player that people value at some level.
01:02:49
If John Wall, with more athleticism can take a piece of what Derrick Rose did and learn how to create different facets of your game and be better, you know, we talked earlier about they are who they are.
01:03:02
Derrick Rose is an example to the contrary.
01:03:04
He was forced.
01:03:05
He was forced.
01:03:06
If you ask me because of the injuries and loss of athleticism and I think John Wall, maybe two.
01:03:11
Yeah, if he's not the same athlete, he's gonna have to come up with something for sure.
01:03:16
I think he's the potential for him to adapt.
01:03:18
Is there because this play making his present? He's not relying on being a 20 point scorer and nothing else.
01:03:23
He is a very good distributor to your point, so he's gonna have a he's got.
01:03:27
There's a window for him to be a very good player.
01:03:29
I think his peak is gone.
01:03:31
Has it worked, Derrick Rose.
01:03:32
But you know, if you could be a you know 17, 18 points per game guy and throw in eight or nine assists.
01:03:38
Something like that.
01:03:39
I mean, that's that's more than enough for for Harden.
01:03:41
And you know we're looking for and be reasonably efficient.
01:03:44
He is.
01:03:45
So the other thing I noticed about him is he turns turns it over much less than Russell Westbrook.
01:03:50
Sure, yeah, a machine.
01:03:52
It's an advantage.
01:03:53
So there's little things that he could do that or better than Russell Westbrook.
01:03:56
It's not gonna be a massive, world changing difference, but it's little things that are better.
01:04:01
Russell Westbrook may give Washington an immediate injection of offensive punch.
01:04:06
Take a lot of shots to do it, but he may.
01:04:08
He may give them immediate injection.
01:04:10
So again, I don't think it's gonna be amazing results for either team.
01:04:15
But it could be slightly better for both of things.
01:04:16
Work out. Agree those air.
01:04:18
Great points.
01:04:19
Both these guys have something offering both their teams.
01:04:21
I mean, I can't wait to see how this all unfolds in the locker room.
01:04:24
It can hardly finally find a backcourt mate that he's not strangling at the end of the season.
01:04:29
Chris Paul was the first victim with Westbrook at the end of the season.
01:04:33
It's like he's just done with these guys.
01:04:34
So HOPEFULLY John Wall.
01:04:36
Third time's the charm.
01:04:37
You can break that trend.
01:04:38
Yeah, I think I think what James Harden wants is somebody who's willing to give him the ball whenever he wants it.
01:04:44
And when James Harden needs a break, can do something semi efficiently and not screw the world up.
01:04:50
I think that's probably about what he wants and it makes, and it's possible.
01:04:53
It's very possible considering the player that John Will has been.
01:04:56
You see how that manifest coming off that injury? Exactly.
01:05:00
But I think that's gonna about do it for us here.
01:05:02
Bo, I want to thank you again for your presence on this program.
01:05:05
Great to talk with you again after SBC and catch up.
01:05:08
Just kind of get a feel for what you're thinking about this season is gonna be a lot of fun and can't wait to see Mawr top 10.
01:05:15
You know, it's been a while since we've had it on board here, but we're all excited for it.
01:05:20
So I appreciate you coming on.
01:05:22
It's been my pleasure.
01:05:24
I am so thrilled we're getting back to work.
01:05:26
I'm so thrilled that the MBA is getting at least back to normal at some degree, and it seems like the world's turning in a good direction.
01:05:34
So I'm excited to see where the MBA is, not only at the start of the season, but in the middle of the season and in the playoffs.
01:05:39
And I know you're gonna be along for the ride.
01:05:41
And I'm just I'm just so excited for all these basketball fans and I'm thankful for all of you.
01:05:46
Follow the N B A and follow for what we do on the n b a dot com top 10 and everything else.
01:05:51
It's It's an absolute joy.
01:05:53
Yeah, absolutely.
01:05:54
We're excited to see you back on the program.
01:05:56
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01:05:59
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01:06:00
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01:06:14
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01:06:15
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01:06:18
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01:06:19
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01:06:20
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01:06:23
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01:06:25
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01:06:26
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