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00:00:29
so behind that way, E to e started from the bottom.
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Not a whole team.
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Yeah, started from the bottom.
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Now we're here.
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How? Everybody And welcome to the Golden Hour episode number 57 67.
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Check that, I'll Jack Morgan, that to stall to my rights once more and wow.
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Well, I'm just thinking about the 67 episodes.
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That's a lot.
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A lot of episodes.
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Um, didn't say it on Thanksgiving, but thank you so much for the support guys.
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And without further ado, let's get into the upsurge eso yesterday.
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Ah, lot happened, and eventually we're going to talk about what happened.
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Uh, what happened over the weekend? And well, we have enough talking about boy where we didn't even have Thio talk about anything over the weekend because last night, watch bomb at around eight o'clock, figure out, figure out that Russell Westbrook treated to the Wizards and a deal for John Wall in a first round pick.
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Now, initially, for May, I thought it was an over pay, but then again, when you look at the value Russell Westbrook in terms of play, when you you look on paper, he gives you that more value for John Wall even when John Wall was healthy, eh? So I guess that first round pick does end up being warranted.
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I mean, maybe you could have got away with a couple seconds.
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Well, that's your thing.
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Here's a Here's where here's the thing.
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This is basically rust.
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First, John Wall straight up.
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If the only scenario where Rich becomes like, you know, whether we're the first round pick really matters is if it is.
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If my theory ends up, working ends up being proven to drew because I don't think that Russell Westbrook and take a team for in the playoffs.
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In fact, I think the first round exit this year and maybe next year with rust.
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But that's a discussion for another day.
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It was a battery.
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The fact of the matter is Russell Westbrook.
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He's on his way to the Wizards to play alongside Bradley Beal, and it were with what me and Drew were talking about earlier, before the show, as we're prepping, was, in my opinion and Andrews as well, the best backcourt in the N B A.
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I'm sorry in the Eastern Conference A.
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It could say that's the best backcourt in the NBA.
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You can make the argument about that, and I will.
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I will make the argument about that because I E.
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Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal and now the only problem.
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Now the only problem is we saw these two.
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We saw guys who two guys in a backward who wanted the ball.
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The book wanted the balm or and and we sought, um, once again with the we saw it with, of course, with Westbrook and heart.
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And of course we did.
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But I I and also you could say Westbrook and Paul, George George did play is a guard.
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Melo was, Ah, small four.
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So that is where my point it's coming from.
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They didn't get along too well.
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They didn't go too far.
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Um, Paul George lied to Russell Westbrook's.
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I need be in O k. C. For a long time.
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Well, that was quite false.
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So we've seen that we've seen this kind of dynamic, interesting dynamic in the past where two guys who mainly demand the ball, or or and probably Bills case, is getting the ball almost every time down the court last year and he's gonna have a drastic change.
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But in this situation.
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It's different because Bradley Beal played with John Wall and they were able to work it out.
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Two guys who probably wanted to be the focal point of the offense.
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They were able to work it out, and then the front court wasn't good on the past Wizards teams and they, you know, they were making it.
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It was it was not a great backcourt, and they were sorry in the front court, not a great front court the Yet they were able Thio G o you know, have some great second round.
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That was Yeah, and that's what is interesting about this for me.
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I think that this could be different if Bradley bills able to accept had reduced role.
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Because I think that at this point, it's stupid toe make Russ, um, except that reduced role because we saw what happened in Houston.
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He didn't want to accept that reduced role I would imagine, because he didn't want to play with Harden.
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Uh, it's it's it's interesting to see, I think that Bradley Beal, I think, is a team player and I think he will switch a.
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I think he'll accept that reduced role, so I think that this could work? I think it could work.
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There's just interesting dynamics at play here in Washington through your thoughts on this one.
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Yeah, I'm surprised.
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Actually, you kind of said a lot of what I was actually going.
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Yeah, I expected a very different opinion from you, But, you know, I want to keep an open mind while also saying I think I know how this will work.
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But you also gotta hope.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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E When you were saying this, I just had a thought.
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Don't all all star players kind of demand the ball? Yeah.
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Yeah, e.
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And also that's right, Jack. Someone. Yeah.
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I also think it's worth mentioning.
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I mean, a d had the ball a lot in New Orleans, of course, is a backcourt situation.
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But he did accepted to reduce role.
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And you saw how far that went to Starr's.
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One of them's got, uh, except that their role Rusty Hardin didn't do it, I believe Harden our Sorry, Westbrook.
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And you could do it. Yes.
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So, Jack James Harden something totally different.
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We forgot all about what Russia less Claire James Harden is not an example.
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The wizards Okay, then I was talking about this.
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Is that what you didn't? Um when you bring in a star player like this and Russell, what do you think of him as? Whatever type of start long.
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But you say he's one of the well known people.
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One of the better players in the And when you when you look at it, allow these duos.
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You always talked about it a lot.
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Good teams have multiple stars.
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Okay, But besides the Bucks last year, every single good team had multiple stars and stars mandible on their hands.
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So I think this whole kind of philosophy about like, oh, they like these guys demand the bond like you don't hear these things about.
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She likes the ball.
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E think it's really only talked about.
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We'll always talked about with LeBron and Kyrie.
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Yeah, I just asked her it Waas.
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But I think here's here's what I think it could work, you know, in wall together, you know, they but they weren't kind of share, you could say.
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And last year, Bill wanted help.
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You could see, like one part of you thinks like being the top guy was see like he was.
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He was asking for help.
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What's? And then there was your car.
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Besides, for time? Yeah, besides, for times.
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But for times appear shooter.
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Alright, He's not gonna go Thio.
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He's a spot up shooter.
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And so Yeah, I got a call to, but he's not gonna be dribbling driving Thio.
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So he really needs this.
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He needs this guy to be successful.
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It would be better off with Russell Westbrook.
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I don't know what people are saying.
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Which is You're going to be worse.
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Bill is gonna be worse. It will be interesting.
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I think Bill's gonna be better.
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Okay, you look at.
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Besides, I'm gonna say this again.
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James Harden is not an example no one can play with using that time and time and time.
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Yeah, yeah, they keep the names going.
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So I think we just need to forget about last year.
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Russell Westbrook and Russell Westbrook still put up good numbers.
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And what is most important to me, Jack, um is they kind of had these to Dr First guards.
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Like both 1000 guards. Literary.
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I think that Bill would be better as a be served better as a god that can shoot the ball.
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I think that Westbrook driving kicking out to Beale or Beale on a little cut.
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I think that that's gonna be Oh, remember when we were talking about the over the over pay for Burton on Half Britain's Who would be shooting Bradley Beal? But that's beside the point.
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I guess Bradley Beal will be shooting and, well, Bradley Bills, one hell of a shooter all say that.
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But Britain is a different type of shooter.
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So now and this team's looking, really, you know, I know my bias is gonna be way too big here, But you got You got one of the best.
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You got one of the best.
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E think he's going to be a good player.
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I'm not sure who to compare.
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He's gonna be a very big part off this wizard studio.
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And then you have Bhutan's Excuse me.
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I think he's going to crack the starting lineup this year.
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Um, ruin Broadcom's.
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They're gonna be the 34 flock it whatever way you want.
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But the biggest thing for me, and I guess it's it's kind of a new thing this year, but not it's not.
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It's something old.
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In the past is the center position.
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Um, Thomas Bryant.
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He's fine.
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But the benches, actually, I like I like what? The benches looking like eso the wizard expense right now just to name a few guys.
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I know I'm gonna forget some, but well, you have that more tests, Wagner.
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Dude, he's pretty good, right? You have Troy Brown.
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He's still a young guy.
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And and you have, um, you have Jack's favorite player is Smith e hate that.
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Dude, That dude honestly is a jerk.
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I hate that dude.
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From what I've heard, he is a *******.
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He he honestly thought he could be a starting point guard because of what he did in Philadelphia.
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That he was 10 and 72 ish.
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Jiminy Crickets, you idiot.
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Yeah, a most overrated.
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Hey, not even rated.
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He's you know.
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Hell he is.
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E was going to say one of them are over there in the league.
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Is Robin Locus looking? His e makes dinner guy alright.
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He's a bigger guy, and then you you have other guards writing.
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You have Gary Payton the second, obviously, you know, the older his dad you have in bohemia who's also a center.
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Um and then you got a mile Scofield, who's another like, Look, I know I'm setting my I'm hoping this team up way too much playoff team and Jack, like you said, First round exit? Possibly.
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But when you look at today, today's MBA look, I mean, look at the first round exits last year.
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The Utah Jazz, the Portland Trail Blazers.
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Um, the the list goes on through the Indiana Pacers.
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Like being the first time to exit is not necessarily a bad thing, because there were in the era of where every team is good, all right, like every single team has a bright spot.
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Every single team, I think has a chance to make the playoffs this year.
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I think it's possible for real.
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I mean, maybe not.
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Seems like the Timberwolves and the Knicks and the Hornets.
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But aside from those teams, I would say about 25 or 2530 of these teams, I think can push for a playoff spot and or be in the playoffs.
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And that's been because I don't remember the N b a even five years ago looking like this.
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Everything has some sort of duo of stars.
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Every single team has good players around them like there's not one TV Um, that I think is really any better than the other.
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Besides E.
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What's the second best team? Is it the Bucks? Is it the Clippers? Is it the Mavericks? Is it that he? Is it the Sixers? Is it the Raptors? Is it the Celtics? I mean it z, for discussion.
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I don't remember the MBA ever looking with all these with all these great and talented team.
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Yeah, the Houston Rockets Think about this, I imagine six months ago saying this.
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The rock.
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The Rockets literally traded Russell Westbrook for nothing more than an injury depleted point guard who's missed.
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Ah, lot of over a year.
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Half we're approaching two years with Achilles injury and a highly protected first trumpet like people are actually saying the Rockets one league deal that, like think about it real quick.
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I know the Russell Westbrook splendor his knees.
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He got hate, but the Rockets traded Russell Westbrook for John Wall, and sure, that first started like look at what the Rockets paid for Russell Westbrook this time a year ago, I guess.
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Not this time.
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But last off season's look what like what I tell you, by the way, and and we're gonna move on real quick because I want to get to a couple other stuff.
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And did I tell you that the Rockets got fleeced? I think that's e I think the Rockets got off.
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E got fleeced in multiple trades.
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I think they got fleeced in this one, Jack.
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Dare I say it? Everyone go cancel me or whatever.
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I don't care.
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Can you please tell me that I was right when I told you at the Russell Westbrook Trade E for a couple of years? E multiple? Yeah, I told you, dude, I knew it.
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I hear you. Yeah.
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Waiting to see if you Yeah, I know.
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It takes a man to actually a minute.
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You, uh, e think needs to be brought up.
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It doesn't need to be brought up a strong wall going to do with James hard.
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But what's going to be interesting that, like, we're all talking about Buell Westbrook gold And I love talking about that.
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But wall and Harden e I don't know what's gonna happen there.
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Look, I don't think wall walls gonna I said it before.
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I'm assuming for Wall is going to return similar Thio.
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What? We remember him ass.
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I'm not gonna change my first fair Fair, Not just because he's not a different.
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Because I said it that you got to stick with it until until you gotta throw something at the ball on the stay with wallet.
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When it falls down, you admit you're wrong and I'm a believer and even with players will return simply the same.
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That's what I think. Deep.
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That's what I thought it was.
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John Wall and you What option? Yeah, you know, we'll see how it returns. Absolutely.
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Just follow the Rockets this year, Jack, because I think the Rockets got works on when you look at it on paper.
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Is Russell Westbrook really worse than John Wall E? We'll see.
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We'll see.
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Honestly, I don't It's It's a lot to think about.
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I think in a few years we'll know where answered.
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By the way, Salaries Absolutely identical.
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Nothing.
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Um, nothing there, by the way, a very interesting night in college basketball.
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Ah, bunch of rank games.
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We'll take you through those in a little college basketball recap from Wednesday night We had a couple of big games, and while we started out early here.
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Well, Ohio State number 23 in the nation they played Morehead State, who actually played Kentucky and didn't lose by much.
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They got killed in this 1 77 of 44 e Think we look at, you know, these small schools.
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It's very limited to the chances that they have and we'll see what we'll see what they dio.
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Okay, the big tent this year is the best all around conference in college basketball.
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Uh, the big e a big one doesn't matter for with E where that poorly the Big 10 has out of any conference, they have the most best teams.
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Most best.
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Okay, Most best teams first off.
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Awful grammar.
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I know.
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You know God, awful grammar.
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I know.
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I know what you mean.
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We'll take a look at the conference because you want thio.
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E o has the most amount of team.
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Yeah, Any other.
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I'm not I'm not exactly sure how the word, but I'm trying.
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But you had a process that you have the most amount of talent, folks.
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I don't try to process then your head.
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Meanwhile, we'll move on number 21.
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Organ goes down to Missouri.
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Who's now too.
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And on the air, this was organs Hope Sorry.
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Oregon season opener.
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They lose, um, eggs a savior pin Pinson for Mizzou.
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22 points and the up they pull off the upset over organ now in the camping world Maui Invitational, Texas What a wind over North Carolina Actually didn't see the buzzer beer, So we're gonna show that right now.
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E was watching.
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I turned out for the first time.
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Rob.
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Stroll on.
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You skipped ahead a little bit.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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For us. Thought here.
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Yo.
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So it comes back to fastball.
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Life comes at you fast.
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So and now it was frozen.
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There you go for the wind and that is that is a shooters.
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Talk on Jack t talk about it. I was like, one second.
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It ain't over, dude.
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Uh, they didn't long story short.
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They did not get the tip.
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Inicio Jack, I think.
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Look, this North Carolina, it's super young.
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That's that's always What we're gonna see is Carolina E.
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It's a lot of one and done.
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Exactly.
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And Texas was a tough matchup.
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Keeping my North Carolina is coming off.
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This was the marriage, um or not.
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It's not Maui or carry war Maui Invitational.
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So you play three games in three days.
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It's not and you look at.
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They were coming off a tough one over Stanford.
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They only beat Stanford by four.
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So way.
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Look at Texas Jack, Texas.
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Um, they played some great games way.
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Have Villanova on Sunday.
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That's gonna be a true test for them.
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I think that is going to be big in terms rankings because the rankings come out on Monday.
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That is a Sunday.
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Whoever wins, there's nothing more college back in the early season rankings.
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Yeah, probably don't know how good these teams are like, that's the way it doesn't your city.
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It's It's I will say it is telling if these teams are losing, ah, games early on against, um God, if they lose two straight games early on, you can you can say, Yeah, that's what they were a fraud and, well, you, we've seen it enough.
00:22:11
You haven't seen these teams play? Oh yeah, we have seen in past years where teams get upset and it's like they get upset once and then they lose twice.
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It's like, Well, geez, I mean, what were they? Well, Here's the thing.
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It doesn't pre season is very different from conference play or we will be a long season.
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It's well, of course, it's different from conference play.
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So yeah, it only matters like the rankings.
00:22:37
Yeah, generally don't matter.
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And up until January 1st? Yeah, just the number.
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It's not saying Oh, this is the 17th.
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This is the 10th best in the country.
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At that point, you can make you can make Messiah.
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You can make it will be known who the top teams are in the country in just a little bit, but their general will have a good idea.
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There are a lot of a way that we know that are a lot off.
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Uh, there was a lot of this year, a lot of rank matchups where we're able to assess these teams against very hard opponents.
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Early on, we were able thio way leading true.
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I'm not trying to prove a point here.
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Way saw Illinois, who barely beat Ohio, tested by Baylor and, uh well, Illinois.
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They wanna gets Ohio in a close on.
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This one wasn't closer at all in the second half, 51 to 39.
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Baylor outscores Illinois in the second half en route to a 80 to 69 victory in the night cap of the Jimmy V Classic.
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Baylor Place. Next.
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Yeah, here they blood.
00:23:57
That's gonna be interesting.
00:23:58
Speaking of Gonzaga, Xanga, Thio trusting What is that the fire, Right.
00:24:08
So, yeah, that's gonna be a It's not a final ZB classic, isn't it? Yeah, but yeah, the reason that is, uh, speaking of speaking of Gonzaga, Dad had a rough first half.
00:24:27
They entered the half third down 39 to 34.
00:24:31
They exit Jimmy the Jimmy V Classic semifinal with a win 87 to 82 53 to 43 in the second half.
00:24:42
Jack, there was a scare in this one. Jalen sucks.
00:24:45
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:47
Um, his ankle injury, he actually came back into the game.
00:24:50
Was that drama stop dramatized? In your opinion, I think it was overdrawn.
00:24:56
I'm not gonna be Oh, a therapist.
00:25:01
Yeah, My mom's a physical therapist.
00:25:03
Is She said if if he's in as much pain as he really is, making it out to be that he's not coming back in the game.
00:25:11
He came back in the game and he looked just fine.
00:25:14
Yeah, I think I was a little over drama sized with the carrying off the court.
00:25:19
I don't know.
00:25:20
I I think there's nothing.
00:25:22
We're just but I'm looking in, but I'm on the outside looking in e.
00:25:29
I had to walk it off a little bit.
00:25:31
You know, that's the thing. Like, don't blame him.
00:25:33
I'm sure if he wanted Thio, but that he didn't over dramatize.
00:25:40
I hate when that happens.
00:25:42
What, what with that being said, that is your college grasping list.
00:25:49
When he was coming into the game known he was walking on Yeah, fine.
00:25:55
It was interesting.
00:25:58
It's something to keep an eye on.
00:26:00
It is something to keep an eye on washroom games coming up this weekend, especially in college football.
00:26:06
We have some big um uh, there's some big stuff to go over.
00:26:11
So let's go from the court to the gridlock.
00:26:16
Sorry, the hardwood and to the gridiron, I can't speak.
00:26:20
But even though I can't speak, I am a smart and I know my stuff.
00:26:28
And let's take a look at the 2020 college of football rank.
00:26:33
It's in the cultural.
00:26:35
It's college Broadwell, um, as a yeah, the cultural clams. All that matters.
00:26:40
By the way.
00:26:41
There were some big games, and, uh, one thing I wanna point out BYU this week is playing number 14, not number 14 anymore.
00:26:51
In the cultural playoff rankings they're playing, uh, Coastal Carolina was number 18.
00:26:58
That's gonna be a huge game.
00:27:01
Well, preface, I may or may not preface that later, but that is a that is a big game for BYU because of trying to prove and try to get a good a top tier opponent to the resume.
00:27:14
And it's socks.
00:27:16
But power five conferences usually dominate the rankings, and that's where we are right now in terms of the college football playoff number one in Alabama, number two is Notre Dame.
00:27:27
Number three's Clemson number four is Ohio State, unchanged from a week of 13.
00:27:34
Yeah, if you take a look at re 13 that you got the exact same six now fell.
00:27:44
Nebraska fell on Lee to number 14, but their shots is basically gone, losing to Michigan State.
00:27:51
You're you're done.
00:27:52
By the way, Michigan did not make it into the top 25.
00:27:56
Uh, a little fun thing to set Thio point out here Michigan State has two wins.
00:28:04
Both went have been against teams that were formally ranked or are still ranked.
00:28:10
Michigan, formerly ranked, is ranked when they play them.
00:28:13
That is a ranked win.
00:28:15
Um, Northwestern ranked when they played, I'm still rank.
00:28:19
That is still a ranked win.
00:28:20
So a little interesting said there.
00:28:22
I wish.
00:28:24
No, uh, Pence, they could do that.
00:28:27
And Jackson most interested in looking at things weekend.
00:28:32
Anyway, um, it is the Big 12 Conference were right now the standings.
00:28:37
We have ou Oklahoma State, Um, time for a center right now.
00:28:41
Way already.
00:28:42
Know I was state with that one over the big 12? Uh, no way.
00:28:48
Not a lot of changes in the top 10 other than Miami other than Miami going air.
00:28:56
Sorry, I always say, going in, we have a lot of changes at the lower level of it.
00:29:01
Off the top 25.
00:29:03
Uh, North Carolina got moved up.
00:29:06
Two spots for the wind or sorry.
00:29:08
Their loss to Notre Dame when they were impressive in that they were they lost to Notre Dame, but they were quite impressive in that, um, in that game.
00:29:17
And plus you had USC losing at Oregon.
00:29:21
Lose.
00:29:22
So that helps their cause.
00:29:24
Let's take a look at the top four because it has an interesting game against Michigan.
00:29:31
What? Us? He didn't lose.
00:29:33
Thank you.
00:29:34
Watch out for us City.
00:29:37
Okay, E.
00:29:42
Yeah.
00:29:43
They didn't lose E.
00:29:44
I thought I got I, um, for a second saw USCs organ.
00:29:48
And I thought they dropped eight spots are what was going on? Yeah, everyone's counting out.
00:29:55
It's a little too late for them.
00:29:57
And here's the problem.
00:29:58
They could blame the Pac 12 for that.
00:30:02
They blame the Pac 12.
00:30:03
Maxwell doesn't know they're not going to get enough game.
00:30:08
Your guarantee they never cracked the top 10.
00:30:13
Jack, you're not going to taken undefeated conference champion of a powerful.
00:30:18
Yeah, We'll see what I called football playoff. You're not.
00:30:22
Yours is number 20.
00:30:26
And how many weeks do we have left, Jack? They can jump big.
00:30:31
How many weeks you have left? How do you think if these teams win in front of them, you're not gonna put him over on? Who are you gonna put over? If us she wants out.
00:30:45
I'm putting them over Florida.
00:30:46
I'm putting over.
00:30:47
I'm putting over can't.
00:30:50
One word.
00:30:51
That's the problem.
00:30:53
You did cough guarantee, E.
00:30:57
I guarantee you we will look back at the end of the year and say, Well, hell, have they started a little earlier? I think they might have had a chance.
00:31:06
I promise you that.
00:31:07
I want to tell you what.
00:31:08
They're not punishing teams.
00:31:10
They're not ranking teams over just because they started with a with a two beginning of the year.
00:31:15
That are that 20 ranking, which is right.
00:31:18
There is what's called a placeholder.
00:31:20
They a last week, Jack.
00:31:25
If they 15 last week, here's the problem.
00:31:31
Who does USC play? They they they play U C L A.
00:31:37
And then they're probably gonna be playing Oregon.
00:31:40
Okay, so how Maney ranks wins do we have here? Yeah.
00:31:44
What? Oregon lost Oregon State? Yeah, the How impressive does organ it is? Ordinate what? I don't think you understand.
00:31:57
What? What what What I'm really saying.
00:31:59
What do you say? That 12 championship in Onley five games played this season is going to jump them 16 spots into the college football playoff or even fifth? You understand what these rankings air about thes rankings air placeholders You start the final rankings.
00:32:20
No, it's not.
00:32:21
Well, it is not just placeholders is where they are right now, and they it z there placeholders.
00:32:28
But you have to go up rankings.
00:32:31
You have to go up placeholders.
00:32:34
If they be organ, they're gonna be in there because you're not gonna be a playoff.
00:32:39
It was like Mississippi pre Hold on.
00:32:43
You're saying they're gonna be in the college football playoff that they beat Oregon? Yes.
00:32:47
If they lose, they won't.
00:32:50
Drew.
00:32:52
You say they are working? They're gonna be in a ****erel playoffs.
00:32:55
Are you sure you want Thio say that if they go undefeated, they win the championship game? Yes.
00:33:03
What's keeping them out of it? How we're all their games, that one.
00:33:08
That every single A five team in a major conference at the end of year.
00:33:16
We could look back today.
00:33:18
We can either look back and say Jack was wrong or Drew was wrong.
00:33:21
All right, You're taking this to the end of year.
00:33:23
You're taking this What? They lose, they want, they gotta win.
00:33:26
Well, i e it's It's so ridiculous.
00:33:31
I have to, you know, we gotta make that insist on the the dude, they're not, you know, putting out undefeated power five Conference champion over a second place finisher.
00:33:47
I don't think you are, and I don't get that.
00:33:53
You got Alabama.
00:33:54
You got in order, Dan.
00:33:56
Notre Dame Thompson.
00:33:58
You know a once in your Clemson beats Notre Dame.
00:34:04
Notre Dame is not falling out the Contra all playoff.
00:34:07
Unless they lose by a crap ton, I think you're right.
00:34:11
Notre Dame and plus Clemson, for the most part, most likely will be in the playoffs.
00:34:17
So get that in your head and great way making sure we can way making sure that we can attribute those guys most likely will be in the playoffs.
00:34:31
So so will.
00:34:32
Most likely Alabama, if they went out are also in the playoffs.
00:34:37
How about Ohio stated they went out there in the playoffs.
00:34:41
So what's the difference between Ohio, Where you a What's putting a haven't played as many games, but Ohio State's undefeated power five champions? You will see the undefeated Power five champion.
00:34:57
What's putting what's putting state over USC on the fact that open the fact that they USC barely beat a S u they barely beat Arizona? They they had to close one's.
00:35:12
Ohio State has dominated each and every team They played 52 to 17.
00:35:22
Get to Nebraska 38 20 to 25 hours. The domination.
00:35:27
They kill Rutgers.
00:35:29
They beat Indiana.
00:35:32
It wasn't even.
00:35:36
But it's the Big 10 eso are we? The problem is, do you think the Pac 12 championship is more important than the Big 10 championship? Is there any important here? We put them at the same level level.
00:35:49
They're both at the same level.
00:35:51
Eso When you eso you think so? Are we gonna also point? Are we gonna attribute how hard the big their opponents in the championship game waas Are we gonna attribute that to their college football playoff? Frank, is that contributed? Is that being radio? Okay, All right.
00:36:15
So, Leo, there's no reason I'm not I'm trying.
00:36:25
I mean, I'm trying to make you realize here it's a long shot for Oregon, too.
00:36:30
Sorry for USC to get in.
00:36:31
It is a long shot.
00:36:34
I know I will prove it to you.
00:36:36
So here's the oh, Is there a sense in that it's not BYU, it's a or B.
00:36:45
Y was independent, but it is **** near impossible that USC makes the cultural playoff.
00:36:53
In my opinion, I don't think there's a chance in hell that is possible.
00:37:00
They would have to have a lot of wrong.
00:37:04
I just don't know what you expect them to do.
00:37:07
You win all your games e.
00:37:12
There in a power five car.
00:37:14
How does that not get you into a championships? ****, I just I I don't see it.
00:37:20
It happens.
00:37:22
I'm a Yeah, it's just No, it's not.
00:37:27
It's a and, say Notre Dame ones.
00:37:33
Alright, so that knocks off Clemson.
00:37:35
You have family.
00:37:37
Notre Dame probably put in Ohio State.
00:37:40
We'll see what happens with, um, no, I was putting your skin.
00:37:44
Honestly, they can be top 10.
00:37:46
They hate being comfortable.
00:37:48
Playoff? Where's your case for USC to get to the control playoffs? And don't say, because the Pac 12, the Power five Conference and every single team is hard to beat because then you have to look at the Big 10.
00:38:03
It realized, Yeah, that's a Power five conference, and all the teams are hard to be, too.
00:38:06
So that nullifies that conversation.
00:38:09
Now look at ranked teams and the possibilities of all these other teams losing and getting knocked out the college football playoff because they gotta jump these guys, you know it.
00:38:20
Z e.
00:38:25
What are they? You put a request saying them in Florida, right? You're not putting you lost.
00:38:32
Four.
00:38:37
Yeah, it's where the ranks right now and where they will.
00:38:40
And it's where the rank.
00:38:41
It's not a place holder is a P Top 25 place, a place holder.
00:38:47
It that's a place offer USC, and it's magically a ah place, not a placeholder for Alabama.
00:38:57
Is Alabama the number one team in the country, or are they just, uh, according to a selection, you're trying the No.
00:39:04
One team because me or Oklahoma or another? Here's the thing.
00:39:08
You know Oklahoma, Miami lost.
00:39:11
Use a better team, you know.
00:39:13
The O u S c e o.
00:39:20
I'm not saying that BYU most likely is not making the college football playoff in terms of their schedule because e they don't have a conference championship to play for e mean honestly, b y u b y.
00:39:36
He's not even in a conference.
00:39:37
Are that b y? Who was in a conference? They'd have a chance.
00:39:43
I still that's fine and, uh, who are you? Who are you going to kick out the Kochs for a playoff and put in slot in USC and walk? That's my question.
00:40:01
I posed to you.
00:40:02
All right, so I think, you know, agree Alabama is gonna be in there if Northern name ones that knocks off Clemson.
00:40:09
That knocks off Florida because Florida is too lost to.
00:40:12
Then you have Ohio State of three.
00:40:15
And then I think you put you If USC wins out and wins their Pac 12 championship E would actually Sorry e.
00:40:32
So again, who did you have at number two or number three? Number two? Number three, you have ranked at the end of season.
00:40:41
I'm talking about How the hell is us? You're gonna get in their U S.
00:40:46
D a better thing than Notre Dame if the Notre Dame gets bounced out.
00:40:51
So how the hell are you gonna bounce Notre Dame and put USD over Notre Dame? What? Notre Dame is a better USC is going to get the nod over Notre Dame. I never said that.
00:41:05
Your present.
00:41:06
Okay, well, who are they gonna because I think you said Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio state.
00:41:11
Okay, So what do you have in two and three? Who do you have it? Two or three.
00:41:16
I didn't hear it.
00:41:18
I've noticed.
00:41:19
I've Ohio stated three.
00:41:22
Okay.
00:41:23
And I think Clemson's gonna lose, Which leaves a **** open.
00:41:26
One thing is gonna lose.
00:41:27
Okay? I think so.
00:41:29
That's too long. But they're no okay.
00:41:32
And what is gonna play Alabama where you go check maybe Texas A and M? I don't think so.
00:41:38
***y. And them get it.
00:41:40
How about Cincinnati? If if you don't wanna put in Texas A and M, maybe you put in Cincinnati who will have a conference championship game.
00:41:47
The problem is here.
00:41:48
There's so many moving pieces. Eggs.
00:41:52
Let's not forget the Big 12 championship.
00:41:54
Iowa State might make it in their Oklahoma make make.
00:41:57
Make it in there.
00:41:58
So you gotta realize I I'm against e would have put it any.
00:42:07
I wouldn't put in, um e Oklahoma in there.
00:42:11
I wouldn't e to live your thinking here because if they're ranked hired, you need a reason, Thio.
00:42:22
That's the thing.
00:42:23
They're not like right at the O, Jack.
00:42:29
Because is there a reason they're going to keep on going up.
00:42:33
They here.
00:42:34
Hold on, hold on.
00:42:35
But the problem is, you need a reason to rank over a team in the college football playoff ranking is especially when you're putting on this high.
00:42:43
So what's their reason is over Iowa State, who also won a one a a Big 12, a conference championship and who has also Bean now to multiple ranked opponents.
00:43:00
How are you gonna put him over? The schedule is a huge thing that they look at in the college football playoff.
00:43:08
So that's where I need an explanation over that.
00:43:11
Because I would state lost by 17 toe Louisiana.
00:43:16
I was ST yeah, but they beat Oklahoma and they beat it.
00:43:24
Those air to in They lost.
00:43:28
They lost dog lost like that on then.
00:43:33
Then again, you might get a chance again.
00:43:35
Against Oklahoma State, you might get a chance.
00:43:39
There's a lot you're gonna be Oh, nod.
00:43:43
You look at the rest of the schedule.
00:43:44
OU plays you in Oklahoma State place.
00:43:50
What? Will you do it if What if you are? C doesn't win, They're out.
00:43:56
There is no ends if sir bunts.
00:43:59
But they know if they win this around out And then, if they lose the conference championship care? Well, hell, they're out, and there's no guarantee they're making it in.
00:44:14
If they even want all three of those right, there's no guarantee would personally.
00:44:20
So it's all up in the air.
00:44:23
You know, I don't that I think there's no chance in hell there's They will not make it into the college football Top 25.
00:44:32
What are your chances you give them through? If they went out blood percentage I have presented, um, like, if so, if if they went out, if they win, if they went out because you're not looking at the dynamic because you're not caring about Ohio State right, I probably give them a 54 56% chance.
00:44:59
And I think it really depends on what that Notre Dame and Clinton result is because it's ambitious and ridiculous to think that USC will make it, that you should say there's a chance because you can't say they will make it, and that's why I was trying to prove it.
00:45:22
Prove to you there's so watch stuff going on to the point where you can't say they will make it.
00:45:27
Hell, I can't say Alabama will make it get that Notre Dame will make it.
00:45:32
You know that.
00:45:33
That's what I'm trying to prove here.
00:45:34
It's overly ambitious to say they will make it, even if they went out to make it a way.
00:45:42
They way, I have a low chance to make it and there's that.
00:45:48
That's a problem.
00:45:49
What are your bet? Nods because held at this point, the betting odds.
00:45:52
If there there's a good line that you would make as a bet a bet maker in Vegas on If U.
00:46:01
S C.
00:46:02
Will make the college football playoff, I guess if you are to make those, I bet on that in a second to get a look at the percentage, I think U S C.
00:46:12
Has a better chance to make it over Georgia.
00:46:15
India.
00:46:16
They have a better chance, I think, to make it over to lost Georgia to Los E over BYU over Northwestern.
00:46:28
I mean, I think the list kind of goes on over I e.
00:46:35
In that they're not even in the top 10.
00:46:40
I think there's a championship e.
00:46:44
You think that USC is a championship team? Simply e think that I'm saying the national.
00:46:54
That's where I was.
00:46:55
Because I'm saying that college where I'm reading off the national championship odds not the college football playoff spots, so and they're not on that.
00:47:05
Why the hell are they gonna make it in? I mean, if they're really Vegas never lies in my opinion.
00:47:12
Vegas never.
00:47:14
You know, Vegas.
00:47:17
Yeah.
00:47:18
I think the cards could put their way very easily.
00:47:21
Alright, I'm gonna say it again in order.
00:47:23
What? Yeah.
00:47:24
What do you need to ask you? What do you need for us to make the playoff? You need a lot.
00:47:30
You need a lot.
00:47:33
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what needs to happen.
00:47:36
Alabama beats Florida to lost Florida.
00:47:38
They're out.
00:47:39
Notre Dame beat Alabama Beach.
00:47:42
Do you lost flow out? They lose.
00:47:44
Yes.
00:47:45
Alabama Booth in the SEC championship.
00:47:47
Is that reasonable? Oh, in Alabama, I thought she said Georgia beat Alabama. No.
00:47:54
Really help you in that regard.
00:47:56
I'm gonna tell you why.
00:47:57
I don't really know it.
00:47:58
Why you would help you.
00:47:59
I mean, you help because that takes another possibility.
00:48:03
E Jack, I'm trying to tell you that Georgia lose.
00:48:09
I'm sorry.
00:48:11
How bad this Florida lose it.
00:48:13
You said that Alabama would be Georgia's.
00:48:16
And I was I was gonna say No.
00:48:18
It depends on how bad Florida lose.
00:48:20
In my opinion.
00:48:21
How bad does Florida lose and that Are you okay? All available for a regardless of where you're good in order. Data beats Clemson.
00:48:34
Nor did beat Clemson twice.
00:48:35
Clemson against all their teams, they're good.
00:48:38
But against the big teams, they're not.
00:48:39
Clemson's out.
00:48:41
High ranking U S T. Over collection.
00:48:44
That will never happen.
00:48:47
Yeah, I'm going to stay again.
00:48:52
E don't go a college football playoff.
00:48:56
Especially when I'm not saying okay.
00:48:58
E Vegas control office.
00:49:02
You lost? No.
00:49:03
Okay, Frank us over.
00:49:05
So far, two things have happened and you have a log in the long run Ohio State, right? I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and put them at three, because I think that's probably where they're gonna be.
00:49:17
You still need to convince.
00:49:19
And then wait, who's at number three? Ohio State? Who's at number three? Did you say? Oh, I was gonna say I thought you said you're putting us at number three.
00:49:30
After that, I was going todo lose my mind.
00:49:34
And then I think the discussion is really between Texas A and M, Cincinnati and USC.
00:49:44
And personally, I think USC gets the nod.
00:49:47
Are we going to forget about the Big 12 champion of fall? Hot off if your state wins eso USC going to get it? Because I truthfully think they're better tune than I would say.
00:50:04
I was saying had really bad loss to Louisiana at the beginning of the year.
00:50:06
I hope they lost by 17 U.
00:50:08
S C.
00:50:09
One.
00:50:10
Oh yea, we're realizing these guys have a practice.
00:50:12
Didn't even practice.
00:50:14
You still walk you? Yeah, tell your boarding.
00:50:21
I assume they were e t.
00:50:24
To write.
00:50:25
Wanted to loss.
00:50:27
I wouldn't e created champion USC, but it will also I assume it would matter that they also will have beaten three ranked teams on their way.
00:50:40
Way matter that you beat a ranked team.
00:50:45
It's the strength of schedule that really helps you get in college football playoff and it's highly prioritized.
00:50:51
So I think that it yes, it is going to be huge.
00:50:56
So here's what the Big 10 Championship will be bit sorry big trough and tell me that the number 11, it's Oklahoma wins Oklahoma wins out and let's see what Oklahoma is on their schedule.
00:51:15
They might have a close kin.
00:51:16
They have West Virginia.
00:51:18
Why do they have, uh, reschedule? Okay, that Baylor Who? Baylor is two and five.
00:51:24
So they're gonna be forget about that one.
00:51:26
So, basically, they're gonna be Baylor.
00:51:28
They're gonna be West Virginia.
00:51:30
If they want to have a chance.
00:51:32
They be West Virginia. They be Baylor.
00:51:35
They are eight and two.
00:51:37
Well, and they go into a championship game against the number nine Iowa State Cyclones.
00:51:44
And by the way, there it is.
00:51:46
Most likely at this point, there are going to be some drop egx in the standings.
00:51:52
So you would imagine, you know, that there's a chance Georgia loses.
00:51:57
There's a chance Florida loses.
00:51:59
Yeah, there's a chance Texas A and M loses.
00:52:02
You know, I feel like I was They would have a better chance than USC because USC has got to go over teams like Costa Coastal Carolina, of course, in Carolina Beach, BYU, They'll move up a bit.
00:52:15
I'm sorry.
00:52:16
I'll be a shot clear.
00:52:18
Don't disrespect the Sean to clears.
00:52:21
Disrespect shot declares the oh, Trump declares they a great team.
00:52:29
You know what you don't dare Disrespect? That's trying to clear is because my neighbor Cooper goes to Coastal Carolina e on skin.
00:52:46
Uh, we'll watch.
00:52:48
See how that one works out.
00:52:49
And that once again, was, uh, that and that's my and I said we were We were practiced that later on the show.
00:52:57
That's my cultural ballgame toe watch this week.
00:53:00
That's my game to watch this weekend.
00:53:02
Come on, let me get online.
00:53:04
Let me get my thing here with that is, that's big for BYU because they need it, uh, to advance in the rankings.
00:53:14
They need that win.
00:53:15
They can't they It has to happen.
00:53:18
By the way it's played in coastal Carolina.
00:53:21
There's going to be a great game.
00:53:24
Ah, minor college football playoff and implications.
00:53:28
And also Indiana has a chance that you get back on track.
00:53:33
Um, in terms of ranked winds, Uh uh.
00:53:39
With Indiana game Syracuse? No.
00:53:44
What? Notre Dame for Syracuse? No, not that game.
00:53:48
Um all right, Jack.
00:53:49
My game to watch this weekend.
00:53:51
This is going to be a test for me.
00:53:52
I know Auburn has been struggling this year, but my game to watch is Texas A and M in Auburn.
00:54:00
I think we'll see Texas going on the road to Auburn, By the way, Something and no doubt, um, I'm interested to see, because I have I'm gonna be honest.
00:54:11
I haven't watched Texas A them I know they have killed Ahmad.
00:54:13
I know they had that other dude.
00:54:15
Um but I'm going to see the only other text saying and I've watched it against Bama and that they just got smoked.
00:54:23
And that's frankly, the reason why I still would not put them in the college football playoff, no matter what.
00:54:30
Um, and also, I wonder how often is going to come off? Um, that that embarrassing loss to Alabama and Auburn, They've had itself here.
00:54:43
Okay, But I think there's a chance Jack ESPN is giving Auburn a 53.
00:54:50
1% chance to win this game, even though Texas A and M is a 6 6.
00:54:56
5 point favorite.
00:54:58
Um, so I I think this is important.
00:55:02
It's an important game because Osborne has, I think, a decent chance potentially knockoff text saying them, and with Texas A and M loses their two losses.
00:55:12
Alright, again, I think two losses this year.
00:55:17
That's the breaking point.
00:55:18
If you have two losses, I think you can pretty much say that you're not going to be in there and Texas A and M they're not gonna be in a Jack.
00:55:29
Remember, Texas A and M is gonna be a championship game.
00:55:32
So Texas A and then they only have two games left.
00:55:35
They have a game against Auburn and then they have a game against Tennessee.
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These two games.
00:55:39
They're really important for them to play the best that they could be because they don't have another chance to go out and prove themselves in the championship game.
00:55:46
So I I'm gonna learn a lot about Texas A and M this weekend.
00:55:50
Um, and who knows? Maybe if they played really well, maybe I will say that Texas A and M maybe could get the nod over USC.
00:55:58
But if they lose, that gives us seen even better chance to get into the college football player.
00:56:05
So that's my game.
00:56:06
That's my game. To watch Texas A and M in auber.
00:56:09
Okay, fair enough. That's good point.
00:56:12
We gotta have ah who you got and will last.
00:56:19
Who you got up. We don't.
00:56:21
Can you grab on? Yeah, I'll go.
00:56:23
Finally, by the way, our last.
00:56:25
Where you got Steelers? Barely got past the Ravens, 1913 in a ah boring game in.
00:56:34
Ah, Pittsburgh.
00:56:36
And me and Drew both took the Steelers.
00:56:39
Said I have taken the liberty of updating or who you got records.
00:56:44
And Well, Drew, you get your again closer to 500 or six and seven.
00:56:50
I am, uh, but me.
00:56:53
I am on a roll.
00:56:54
I'm at eight and five.
00:57:01
Honestly, I'm letting that I'm in.
00:57:03
Ah, great position.
00:57:05
Toe emerged victorious at the end of the year, and I'm gonna grab the first annual Who you got championship you 2020.
00:57:15
You need to come back through.
00:57:18
I'm going back.
00:57:19
Coming back.
00:57:20
Only two games.
00:57:21
So two games behind.
00:57:23
Yep.
00:57:24
And, Jack, this was the best game that I'm gonna take a different one.
00:57:28
There's a better one.
00:57:30
All right, fair enough, but we do it.
00:57:35
My better type of I'm sorry.
00:57:37
Sorry.
00:57:38
I had a feeling afterwards.
00:57:40
I was like, Oh, shoot.
00:57:41
He probably e.
00:57:52
Okay, So, Jack, this game tonight, it's actually tomorrow night.
00:57:57
Tomorrow night on ESPN.
00:58:00
A 30 is what we see in an Appalachian state.
00:58:04
Um, so let's see if this actually impacts stand image and it doesn't help their school their two opposing teams.
00:58:15
But Jack Louisiana is probably going to keep playing cultural Carolina in the video watch in this dumb bell prime somebody game.
00:58:26
Who do you have? You have Louisiana or Appalachian stuff? Appalachian State Z.
00:58:35
I want you to go first cause I want to see what you you took.
00:58:38
Okay, But you shouldn't take the opposite of me.
00:58:41
We'll see. We'll see.
00:58:43
We'll see.
00:58:44
I'm I'm still trying to make an educated decision.
00:58:46
Okay? Make your decision and you're that I'll tell you.
00:58:51
No, you go first.
00:58:52
You go first.
00:58:54
No, don't. Alright.
00:58:55
Type it into the chat.
00:58:56
I'm not gonna look at it.
00:58:57
I'm gonna close my eyes.
00:58:58
All right? I'm not taking you.
00:59:00
You just say it.
00:59:02
I want e championship of 2020.
00:59:08
Competitive.
00:59:10
Okay, I'm trying to like back in.
00:59:12
You're not getting You're not making that.
00:59:14
You should just be the opposite of what I pick.
00:59:16
That's not how it should you ever gonna be.
00:59:19
It might not be just the oh Louisiana Castillo state.
00:59:29
I got a flash asleep that waas you want who I was gonna pick.
00:59:35
But I figured out that Louisiana 1 72 20 against their last opponent, ul Monroe.
00:59:44
And I don't care who the hell they are.
00:59:47
That is one held one. Yeah.
00:59:50
Uh, all right.
00:59:53
I died.
00:59:54
They a six And both teams are only one loss in the car.
00:59:59
E think that I think that I honestly think that the raging Cajun say beat? Um, Iowa State.
01:00:12
I would say it's good team Louisiana region.
01:00:15
Cajun is going to get the win on the road against AP State.
01:00:22
I I really think that's a possibility.
01:00:24
I don't I think you're sleeping on Louisiana.
01:00:28
I'm really not.
01:00:29
I'm gonna be honest, but that I think that's disrespectful.
01:00:36
I really dio All right.
01:00:41
Hey, put some respect on the date.
01:00:45
No respect on the name.
01:00:49
All right? I'll do just that.
01:00:51
All right, Jack, let's wrap this up.
01:00:55
I'll God, I got the outro.
01:00:58
Whatever.
01:00:59
Alright, guys.
01:01:00
Thank you for watching that number 67 of the Golden Hour.
01:01:04
To my left is Jack working? Andrew stall also you all
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Golden Hour Episode 67

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so behind that way, E to e started from the bottom.
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Not a whole team.
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Yeah, started from the bottom.
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Now we're here.
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How? Everybody And welcome to the Golden Hour episode number 57 67.
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Check that, I'll Jack Morgan, that to stall to my rights once more and wow.
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Well, I'm just thinking about the 67 episodes.
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That's a lot.
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A lot of episodes.
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Um, didn't say it on Thanksgiving, but thank you so much for the support guys.
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And without further ado, let's get into the upsurge eso yesterday.
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Ah, lot happened, and eventually we're going to talk about what happened.
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Uh, what happened over the weekend? And well, we have enough talking about boy where we didn't even have Thio talk about anything over the weekend because last night, watch bomb at around eight o'clock, figure out, figure out that Russell Westbrook treated to the Wizards and a deal for John Wall in a first round pick.
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Now, initially, for May, I thought it was an over pay, but then again, when you look at the value Russell Westbrook in terms of play, when you you look on paper, he gives you that more value for John Wall even when John Wall was healthy, eh? So I guess that first round pick does end up being warranted.
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I mean, maybe you could have got away with a couple seconds.
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Well, that's your thing.
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Here's a Here's where here's the thing.
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This is basically rust.
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First, John Wall straight up.
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If the only scenario where Rich becomes like, you know, whether we're the first round pick really matters is if it is.
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If my theory ends up, working ends up being proven to drew because I don't think that Russell Westbrook and take a team for in the playoffs.
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In fact, I think the first round exit this year and maybe next year with rust.
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But that's a discussion for another day.
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It was a battery.
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The fact of the matter is Russell Westbrook.
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He's on his way to the Wizards to play alongside Bradley Beal, and it were with what me and Drew were talking about earlier, before the show, as we're prepping, was, in my opinion and Andrews as well, the best backcourt in the N B A.
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I'm sorry in the Eastern Conference A.
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It could say that's the best backcourt in the NBA.
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You can make the argument about that, and I will.
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I will make the argument about that because I E.
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Russell Westbrook and Bradley Beal and now the only problem.
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Now the only problem is we saw these two.
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We saw guys who two guys in a backward who wanted the ball.
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The book wanted the balm or and and we sought, um, once again with the we saw it with, of course, with Westbrook and heart.
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And of course we did.
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But I I and also you could say Westbrook and Paul, George George did play is a guard.
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Melo was, Ah, small four.
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So that is where my point it's coming from.
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They didn't get along too well.
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They didn't go too far.
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Um, Paul George lied to Russell Westbrook's.
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I need be in O k. C. For a long time.
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Well, that was quite false.
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So we've seen that we've seen this kind of dynamic, interesting dynamic in the past where two guys who mainly demand the ball, or or and probably Bills case, is getting the ball almost every time down the court last year and he's gonna have a drastic change.
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But in this situation.
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It's different because Bradley Beal played with John Wall and they were able to work it out.
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Two guys who probably wanted to be the focal point of the offense.
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They were able to work it out, and then the front court wasn't good on the past Wizards teams and they, you know, they were making it.
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It was it was not a great backcourt, and they were sorry in the front court, not a great front court the Yet they were able Thio G o you know, have some great second round.
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That was Yeah, and that's what is interesting about this for me.
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I think that this could be different if Bradley bills able to accept had reduced role.
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Because I think that at this point, it's stupid toe make Russ, um, except that reduced role because we saw what happened in Houston.
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He didn't want to accept that reduced role I would imagine, because he didn't want to play with Harden.
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Uh, it's it's it's interesting to see, I think that Bradley Beal, I think, is a team player and I think he will switch a.
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I think he'll accept that reduced role, so I think that this could work? I think it could work.
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There's just interesting dynamics at play here in Washington through your thoughts on this one.
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Yeah, I'm surprised.
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Actually, you kind of said a lot of what I was actually going.
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Yeah, I expected a very different opinion from you, But, you know, I want to keep an open mind while also saying I think I know how this will work.
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But you also gotta hope.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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E When you were saying this, I just had a thought.
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Don't all all star players kind of demand the ball? Yeah.
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Yeah, e.
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And also that's right, Jack. Someone. Yeah.
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I also think it's worth mentioning.
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I mean, a d had the ball a lot in New Orleans, of course, is a backcourt situation.
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But he did accepted to reduce role.
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And you saw how far that went to Starr's.
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One of them's got, uh, except that their role Rusty Hardin didn't do it, I believe Harden our Sorry, Westbrook.
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And you could do it. Yes.
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So, Jack James Harden something totally different.
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We forgot all about what Russia less Claire James Harden is not an example.
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The wizards Okay, then I was talking about this.
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Is that what you didn't? Um when you bring in a star player like this and Russell, what do you think of him as? Whatever type of start long.
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But you say he's one of the well known people.
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One of the better players in the And when you when you look at it, allow these duos.
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You always talked about it a lot.
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Good teams have multiple stars.
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Okay, But besides the Bucks last year, every single good team had multiple stars and stars mandible on their hands.
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So I think this whole kind of philosophy about like, oh, they like these guys demand the bond like you don't hear these things about.
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She likes the ball.
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E think it's really only talked about.
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We'll always talked about with LeBron and Kyrie.
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Yeah, I just asked her it Waas.
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But I think here's here's what I think it could work, you know, in wall together, you know, they but they weren't kind of share, you could say.
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And last year, Bill wanted help.
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You could see, like one part of you thinks like being the top guy was see like he was.
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He was asking for help.
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What's? And then there was your car.
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Besides, for time? Yeah, besides, for times.
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But for times appear shooter.
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Alright, He's not gonna go Thio.
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He's a spot up shooter.
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And so Yeah, I got a call to, but he's not gonna be dribbling driving Thio.
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So he really needs this.
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He needs this guy to be successful.
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It would be better off with Russell Westbrook.
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I don't know what people are saying.
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Which is You're going to be worse.
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Bill is gonna be worse. It will be interesting.
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I think Bill's gonna be better.
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Okay, you look at.
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Besides, I'm gonna say this again.
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James Harden is not an example no one can play with using that time and time and time.
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Yeah, yeah, they keep the names going.
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So I think we just need to forget about last year.
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Russell Westbrook and Russell Westbrook still put up good numbers.
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And what is most important to me, Jack, um is they kind of had these to Dr First guards.
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Like both 1000 guards. Literary.
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I think that Bill would be better as a be served better as a god that can shoot the ball.
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I think that Westbrook driving kicking out to Beale or Beale on a little cut.
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I think that that's gonna be Oh, remember when we were talking about the over the over pay for Burton on Half Britain's Who would be shooting Bradley Beal? But that's beside the point.
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I guess Bradley Beal will be shooting and, well, Bradley Bills, one hell of a shooter all say that.
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But Britain is a different type of shooter.
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So now and this team's looking, really, you know, I know my bias is gonna be way too big here, But you got You got one of the best.
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You got one of the best.
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E think he's going to be a good player.
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I'm not sure who to compare.
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He's gonna be a very big part off this wizard studio.
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And then you have Bhutan's Excuse me.
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I think he's going to crack the starting lineup this year.
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Um, ruin Broadcom's.
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They're gonna be the 34 flock it whatever way you want.
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But the biggest thing for me, and I guess it's it's kind of a new thing this year, but not it's not.
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It's something old.
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In the past is the center position.
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Um, Thomas Bryant.
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He's fine.
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But the benches, actually, I like I like what? The benches looking like eso the wizard expense right now just to name a few guys.
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I know I'm gonna forget some, but well, you have that more tests, Wagner.
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Dude, he's pretty good, right? You have Troy Brown.
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He's still a young guy.
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And and you have, um, you have Jack's favorite player is Smith e hate that.
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Dude, That dude honestly is a jerk.
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I hate that dude.
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From what I've heard, he is a *******.
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He he honestly thought he could be a starting point guard because of what he did in Philadelphia.
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That he was 10 and 72 ish.
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Jiminy Crickets, you idiot.
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Yeah, a most overrated.
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Hey, not even rated.
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He's you know.
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Hell he is.
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E was going to say one of them are over there in the league.
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Is Robin Locus looking? His e makes dinner guy alright.
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He's a bigger guy, and then you you have other guards writing.
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You have Gary Payton the second, obviously, you know, the older his dad you have in bohemia who's also a center.
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Um and then you got a mile Scofield, who's another like, Look, I know I'm setting my I'm hoping this team up way too much playoff team and Jack, like you said, First round exit? Possibly.
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But when you look at today, today's MBA look, I mean, look at the first round exits last year.
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The Utah Jazz, the Portland Trail Blazers.
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Um, the the list goes on through the Indiana Pacers.
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Like being the first time to exit is not necessarily a bad thing, because there were in the era of where every team is good, all right, like every single team has a bright spot.
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Every single team, I think has a chance to make the playoffs this year.
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I think it's possible for real.
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I mean, maybe not.
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Seems like the Timberwolves and the Knicks and the Hornets.
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But aside from those teams, I would say about 25 or 2530 of these teams, I think can push for a playoff spot and or be in the playoffs.
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And that's been because I don't remember the N b a even five years ago looking like this.
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Everything has some sort of duo of stars.
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Every single team has good players around them like there's not one TV Um, that I think is really any better than the other.
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Besides E.
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What's the second best team? Is it the Bucks? Is it the Clippers? Is it the Mavericks? Is it that he? Is it the Sixers? Is it the Raptors? Is it the Celtics? I mean it z, for discussion.
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I don't remember the MBA ever looking with all these with all these great and talented team.
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Yeah, the Houston Rockets Think about this, I imagine six months ago saying this.
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The rock.
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The Rockets literally traded Russell Westbrook for nothing more than an injury depleted point guard who's missed.
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Ah, lot of over a year.
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Half we're approaching two years with Achilles injury and a highly protected first trumpet like people are actually saying the Rockets one league deal that, like think about it real quick.
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I know the Russell Westbrook splendor his knees.
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He got hate, but the Rockets traded Russell Westbrook for John Wall, and sure, that first started like look at what the Rockets paid for Russell Westbrook this time a year ago, I guess.
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Not this time.
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But last off season's look what like what I tell you, by the way, and and we're gonna move on real quick because I want to get to a couple other stuff.
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And did I tell you that the Rockets got fleeced? I think that's e I think the Rockets got off.
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E got fleeced in multiple trades.
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I think they got fleeced in this one, Jack.
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Dare I say it? Everyone go cancel me or whatever.
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I don't care.
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Can you please tell me that I was right when I told you at the Russell Westbrook Trade E for a couple of years? E multiple? Yeah, I told you, dude, I knew it.
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I hear you. Yeah.
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Waiting to see if you Yeah, I know.
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It takes a man to actually a minute.
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You, uh, e think needs to be brought up.
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It doesn't need to be brought up a strong wall going to do with James hard.
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But what's going to be interesting that, like, we're all talking about Buell Westbrook gold And I love talking about that.
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But wall and Harden e I don't know what's gonna happen there.
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Look, I don't think wall walls gonna I said it before.
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I'm assuming for Wall is going to return similar Thio.
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What? We remember him ass.
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I'm not gonna change my first fair Fair, Not just because he's not a different.
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Because I said it that you got to stick with it until until you gotta throw something at the ball on the stay with wallet.
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When it falls down, you admit you're wrong and I'm a believer and even with players will return simply the same.
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That's what I think. Deep.
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That's what I thought it was.
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John Wall and you What option? Yeah, you know, we'll see how it returns. Absolutely.
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Just follow the Rockets this year, Jack, because I think the Rockets got works on when you look at it on paper.
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Is Russell Westbrook really worse than John Wall E? We'll see.
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We'll see.
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Honestly, I don't It's It's a lot to think about.
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I think in a few years we'll know where answered.
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By the way, Salaries Absolutely identical.
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Nothing.
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Um, nothing there, by the way, a very interesting night in college basketball.
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Ah, bunch of rank games.
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We'll take you through those in a little college basketball recap from Wednesday night We had a couple of big games, and while we started out early here.
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Well, Ohio State number 23 in the nation they played Morehead State, who actually played Kentucky and didn't lose by much.
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They got killed in this 1 77 of 44 e Think we look at, you know, these small schools.
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It's very limited to the chances that they have and we'll see what we'll see what they dio.
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Okay, the big tent this year is the best all around conference in college basketball.
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Uh, the big e a big one doesn't matter for with E where that poorly the Big 10 has out of any conference, they have the most best teams.
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Most best.
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Okay, Most best teams first off.
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Awful grammar.
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I know.
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You know God, awful grammar.
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I know.
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I know what you mean.
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We'll take a look at the conference because you want thio.
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E o has the most amount of team.
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Yeah, Any other.
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I'm not I'm not exactly sure how the word, but I'm trying.
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But you had a process that you have the most amount of talent, folks.
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I don't try to process then your head.
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Meanwhile, we'll move on number 21.
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Organ goes down to Missouri.
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Who's now too.
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And on the air, this was organs Hope Sorry.
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Oregon season opener.
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They lose, um, eggs a savior pin Pinson for Mizzou.
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22 points and the up they pull off the upset over organ now in the camping world Maui Invitational, Texas What a wind over North Carolina Actually didn't see the buzzer beer, So we're gonna show that right now.
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E was watching.
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I turned out for the first time.
00:20:03
Rob.
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Stroll on.
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You skipped ahead a little bit.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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For us. Thought here.
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Yo.
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So it comes back to fastball.
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Life comes at you fast.
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So and now it was frozen.
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There you go for the wind and that is that is a shooters.
00:20:20
Talk on Jack t talk about it. I was like, one second.
00:20:24
It ain't over, dude.
00:20:25
Uh, they didn't long story short.
00:20:30
They did not get the tip.
00:20:31
Inicio Jack, I think.
00:20:36
Look, this North Carolina, it's super young.
00:20:39
That's that's always What we're gonna see is Carolina E.
00:20:44
It's a lot of one and done.
00:20:47
Exactly.
00:20:48
And Texas was a tough matchup.
00:20:50
Keeping my North Carolina is coming off.
00:20:52
This was the marriage, um or not.
00:20:54
It's not Maui or carry war Maui Invitational.
00:20:57
So you play three games in three days.
00:21:00
It's not and you look at.
00:21:04
They were coming off a tough one over Stanford.
00:21:08
They only beat Stanford by four.
00:21:10
So way.
00:21:14
Look at Texas Jack, Texas.
00:21:17
Um, they played some great games way.
00:21:21
Have Villanova on Sunday.
00:21:24
That's gonna be a true test for them.
00:21:26
I think that is going to be big in terms rankings because the rankings come out on Monday.
00:21:33
That is a Sunday.
00:21:35
Whoever wins, there's nothing more college back in the early season rankings.
00:21:40
Yeah, probably don't know how good these teams are like, that's the way it doesn't your city.
00:21:51
It's It's I will say it is telling if these teams are losing, ah, games early on against, um God, if they lose two straight games early on, you can you can say, Yeah, that's what they were a fraud and, well, you, we've seen it enough.
00:22:11
You haven't seen these teams play? Oh yeah, we have seen in past years where teams get upset and it's like they get upset once and then they lose twice.
00:22:20
It's like, Well, geez, I mean, what were they? Well, Here's the thing.
00:22:24
It doesn't pre season is very different from conference play or we will be a long season.
00:22:30
It's well, of course, it's different from conference play.
00:22:33
So yeah, it only matters like the rankings.
00:22:37
Yeah, generally don't matter.
00:22:39
And up until January 1st? Yeah, just the number.
00:22:43
It's not saying Oh, this is the 17th.
00:22:45
This is the 10th best in the country.
00:22:47
At that point, you can make you can make Messiah.
00:22:51
You can make it will be known who the top teams are in the country in just a little bit, but their general will have a good idea.
00:23:01
There are a lot of a way that we know that are a lot off.
00:23:08
Uh, there was a lot of this year, a lot of rank matchups where we're able to assess these teams against very hard opponents.
00:23:16
Early on, we were able thio way leading true.
00:23:25
I'm not trying to prove a point here.
00:23:27
Way saw Illinois, who barely beat Ohio, tested by Baylor and, uh well, Illinois.
00:23:36
They wanna gets Ohio in a close on.
00:23:39
This one wasn't closer at all in the second half, 51 to 39.
00:23:44
Baylor outscores Illinois in the second half en route to a 80 to 69 victory in the night cap of the Jimmy V Classic.
00:23:53
Baylor Place. Next.
00:23:55
Yeah, here they blood.
00:23:57
That's gonna be interesting.
00:23:58
Speaking of Gonzaga, Xanga, Thio trusting What is that the fire, Right.
00:24:08
So, yeah, that's gonna be a It's not a final ZB classic, isn't it? Yeah, but yeah, the reason that is, uh, speaking of speaking of Gonzaga, Dad had a rough first half.
00:24:27
They entered the half third down 39 to 34.
00:24:31
They exit Jimmy the Jimmy V Classic semifinal with a win 87 to 82 53 to 43 in the second half.
00:24:42
Jack, there was a scare in this one. Jalen sucks.
00:24:45
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:47
Um, his ankle injury, he actually came back into the game.
00:24:50
Was that drama stop dramatized? In your opinion, I think it was overdrawn.
00:24:56
I'm not gonna be Oh, a therapist.
00:25:01
Yeah, My mom's a physical therapist.
00:25:03
Is She said if if he's in as much pain as he really is, making it out to be that he's not coming back in the game.
00:25:11
He came back in the game and he looked just fine.
00:25:14
Yeah, I think I was a little over drama sized with the carrying off the court.
00:25:19
I don't know.
00:25:20
I I think there's nothing.
00:25:22
We're just but I'm looking in, but I'm on the outside looking in e.
00:25:29
I had to walk it off a little bit.
00:25:31
You know, that's the thing. Like, don't blame him.
00:25:33
I'm sure if he wanted Thio, but that he didn't over dramatize.
00:25:40
I hate when that happens.
00:25:42
What, what with that being said, that is your college grasping list.
00:25:49
When he was coming into the game known he was walking on Yeah, fine.
00:25:55
It was interesting.
00:25:58
It's something to keep an eye on.
00:26:00
It is something to keep an eye on washroom games coming up this weekend, especially in college football.
00:26:06
We have some big um uh, there's some big stuff to go over.
00:26:11
So let's go from the court to the gridlock.
00:26:16
Sorry, the hardwood and to the gridiron, I can't speak.
00:26:20
But even though I can't speak, I am a smart and I know my stuff.
00:26:28
And let's take a look at the 2020 college of football rank.
00:26:33
It's in the cultural.
00:26:35
It's college Broadwell, um, as a yeah, the cultural clams. All that matters.
00:26:40
By the way.
00:26:41
There were some big games, and, uh, one thing I wanna point out BYU this week is playing number 14, not number 14 anymore.
00:26:51
In the cultural playoff rankings they're playing, uh, Coastal Carolina was number 18.
00:26:58
That's gonna be a huge game.
00:27:01
Well, preface, I may or may not preface that later, but that is a that is a big game for BYU because of trying to prove and try to get a good a top tier opponent to the resume.
00:27:14
And it's socks.
00:27:16
But power five conferences usually dominate the rankings, and that's where we are right now in terms of the college football playoff number one in Alabama, number two is Notre Dame.
00:27:27
Number three's Clemson number four is Ohio State, unchanged from a week of 13.
00:27:34
Yeah, if you take a look at re 13 that you got the exact same six now fell.
00:27:44
Nebraska fell on Lee to number 14, but their shots is basically gone, losing to Michigan State.
00:27:51
You're you're done.
00:27:52
By the way, Michigan did not make it into the top 25.
00:27:56
Uh, a little fun thing to set Thio point out here Michigan State has two wins.
00:28:04
Both went have been against teams that were formally ranked or are still ranked.
00:28:10
Michigan, formerly ranked, is ranked when they play them.
00:28:13
That is a ranked win.
00:28:15
Um, Northwestern ranked when they played, I'm still rank.
00:28:19
That is still a ranked win.
00:28:20
So a little interesting said there.
00:28:22
I wish.
00:28:24
No, uh, Pence, they could do that.
00:28:27
And Jackson most interested in looking at things weekend.
00:28:32
Anyway, um, it is the Big 12 Conference were right now the standings.
00:28:37
We have ou Oklahoma State, Um, time for a center right now.
00:28:41
Way already.
00:28:42
Know I was state with that one over the big 12? Uh, no way.
00:28:48
Not a lot of changes in the top 10 other than Miami other than Miami going air.
00:28:56
Sorry, I always say, going in, we have a lot of changes at the lower level of it.
00:29:01
Off the top 25.
00:29:03
Uh, North Carolina got moved up.
00:29:06
Two spots for the wind or sorry.
00:29:08
Their loss to Notre Dame when they were impressive in that they were they lost to Notre Dame, but they were quite impressive in that, um, in that game.
00:29:17
And plus you had USC losing at Oregon.
00:29:21
Lose.
00:29:22
So that helps their cause.
00:29:24
Let's take a look at the top four because it has an interesting game against Michigan.
00:29:31
What? Us? He didn't lose.
00:29:33
Thank you.
00:29:34
Watch out for us City.
00:29:37
Okay, E.
00:29:42
Yeah.
00:29:43
They didn't lose E.
00:29:44
I thought I got I, um, for a second saw USCs organ.
00:29:48
And I thought they dropped eight spots are what was going on? Yeah, everyone's counting out.
00:29:55
It's a little too late for them.
00:29:57
And here's the problem.
00:29:58
They could blame the Pac 12 for that.
00:30:02
They blame the Pac 12.
00:30:03
Maxwell doesn't know they're not going to get enough game.
00:30:08
Your guarantee they never cracked the top 10.
00:30:13
Jack, you're not going to taken undefeated conference champion of a powerful.
00:30:18
Yeah, We'll see what I called football playoff. You're not.
00:30:22
Yours is number 20.
00:30:26
And how many weeks do we have left, Jack? They can jump big.
00:30:31
How many weeks you have left? How do you think if these teams win in front of them, you're not gonna put him over on? Who are you gonna put over? If us she wants out.
00:30:45
I'm putting them over Florida.
00:30:46
I'm putting over.
00:30:47
I'm putting over can't.
00:30:50
One word.
00:30:51
That's the problem.
00:30:53
You did cough guarantee, E.
00:30:57
I guarantee you we will look back at the end of the year and say, Well, hell, have they started a little earlier? I think they might have had a chance.
00:31:06
I promise you that.
00:31:07
I want to tell you what.
00:31:08
They're not punishing teams.
00:31:10
They're not ranking teams over just because they started with a with a two beginning of the year.
00:31:15
That are that 20 ranking, which is right.
00:31:18
There is what's called a placeholder.
00:31:20
They a last week, Jack.
00:31:25
If they 15 last week, here's the problem.
00:31:31
Who does USC play? They they they play U C L A.
00:31:37
And then they're probably gonna be playing Oregon.
00:31:40
Okay, so how Maney ranks wins do we have here? Yeah.
00:31:44
What? Oregon lost Oregon State? Yeah, the How impressive does organ it is? Ordinate what? I don't think you understand.
00:31:57
What? What what What I'm really saying.
00:31:59
What do you say? That 12 championship in Onley five games played this season is going to jump them 16 spots into the college football playoff or even fifth? You understand what these rankings air about thes rankings air placeholders You start the final rankings.
00:32:20
No, it's not.
00:32:21
Well, it is not just placeholders is where they are right now, and they it z there placeholders.
00:32:28
But you have to go up rankings.
00:32:31
You have to go up placeholders.
00:32:34
If they be organ, they're gonna be in there because you're not gonna be a playoff.
00:32:39
It was like Mississippi pre Hold on.
00:32:43
You're saying they're gonna be in the college football playoff that they beat Oregon? Yes.
00:32:47
If they lose, they won't.
00:32:50
Drew.
00:32:52
You say they are working? They're gonna be in a ****erel playoffs.
00:32:55
Are you sure you want Thio say that if they go undefeated, they win the championship game? Yes.
00:33:03
What's keeping them out of it? How we're all their games, that one.
00:33:08
That every single A five team in a major conference at the end of year.
00:33:16
We could look back today.
00:33:18
We can either look back and say Jack was wrong or Drew was wrong.
00:33:21
All right, You're taking this to the end of year.
00:33:23
You're taking this What? They lose, they want, they gotta win.
00:33:26
Well, i e it's It's so ridiculous.
00:33:31
I have to, you know, we gotta make that insist on the the dude, they're not, you know, putting out undefeated power five Conference champion over a second place finisher.
00:33:47
I don't think you are, and I don't get that.
00:33:53
You got Alabama.
00:33:54
You got in order, Dan.
00:33:56
Notre Dame Thompson.
00:33:58
You know a once in your Clemson beats Notre Dame.
00:34:04
Notre Dame is not falling out the Contra all playoff.
00:34:07
Unless they lose by a crap ton, I think you're right.
00:34:11
Notre Dame and plus Clemson, for the most part, most likely will be in the playoffs.
00:34:17
So get that in your head and great way making sure we can way making sure that we can attribute those guys most likely will be in the playoffs.
00:34:31
So so will.
00:34:32
Most likely Alabama, if they went out are also in the playoffs.
00:34:37
How about Ohio stated they went out there in the playoffs.
00:34:41
So what's the difference between Ohio, Where you a What's putting a haven't played as many games, but Ohio State's undefeated power five champions? You will see the undefeated Power five champion.
00:34:57
What's putting what's putting state over USC on the fact that open the fact that they USC barely beat a S u they barely beat Arizona? They they had to close one's.
00:35:12
Ohio State has dominated each and every team They played 52 to 17.
00:35:22
Get to Nebraska 38 20 to 25 hours. The domination.
00:35:27
They kill Rutgers.
00:35:29
They beat Indiana.
00:35:32
It wasn't even.
00:35:36
But it's the Big 10 eso are we? The problem is, do you think the Pac 12 championship is more important than the Big 10 championship? Is there any important here? We put them at the same level level.
00:35:49
They're both at the same level.
00:35:51
Eso When you eso you think so? Are we gonna also point? Are we gonna attribute how hard the big their opponents in the championship game waas Are we gonna attribute that to their college football playoff? Frank, is that contributed? Is that being radio? Okay, All right.
00:36:15
So, Leo, there's no reason I'm not I'm trying.
00:36:25
I mean, I'm trying to make you realize here it's a long shot for Oregon, too.
00:36:30
Sorry for USC to get in.
00:36:31
It is a long shot.
00:36:34
I know I will prove it to you.
00:36:36
So here's the oh, Is there a sense in that it's not BYU, it's a or B.
00:36:45
Y was independent, but it is **** near impossible that USC makes the cultural playoff.
00:36:53
In my opinion, I don't think there's a chance in hell that is possible.
00:37:00
They would have to have a lot of wrong.
00:37:04
I just don't know what you expect them to do.
00:37:07
You win all your games e.
00:37:12
There in a power five car.
00:37:14
How does that not get you into a championships? ****, I just I I don't see it.
00:37:20
It happens.
00:37:22
I'm a Yeah, it's just No, it's not.
00:37:27
It's a and, say Notre Dame ones.
00:37:33
Alright, so that knocks off Clemson.
00:37:35
You have family.
00:37:37
Notre Dame probably put in Ohio State.
00:37:40
We'll see what happens with, um, no, I was putting your skin.
00:37:44
Honestly, they can be top 10.
00:37:46
They hate being comfortable.
00:37:48
Playoff? Where's your case for USC to get to the control playoffs? And don't say, because the Pac 12, the Power five Conference and every single team is hard to beat because then you have to look at the Big 10.
00:38:03
It realized, Yeah, that's a Power five conference, and all the teams are hard to be, too.
00:38:06
So that nullifies that conversation.
00:38:09
Now look at ranked teams and the possibilities of all these other teams losing and getting knocked out the college football playoff because they gotta jump these guys, you know it.
00:38:20
Z e.
00:38:25
What are they? You put a request saying them in Florida, right? You're not putting you lost.
00:38:32
Four.
00:38:37
Yeah, it's where the ranks right now and where they will.
00:38:40
And it's where the rank.
00:38:41
It's not a place holder is a P Top 25 place, a place holder.
00:38:47
It that's a place offer USC, and it's magically a ah place, not a placeholder for Alabama.
00:38:57
Is Alabama the number one team in the country, or are they just, uh, according to a selection, you're trying the No.
00:39:04
One team because me or Oklahoma or another? Here's the thing.
00:39:08
You know Oklahoma, Miami lost.
00:39:11
Use a better team, you know.
00:39:13
The O u S c e o.
00:39:20
I'm not saying that BYU most likely is not making the college football playoff in terms of their schedule because e they don't have a conference championship to play for e mean honestly, b y u b y.
00:39:36
He's not even in a conference.
00:39:37
Are that b y? Who was in a conference? They'd have a chance.
00:39:43
I still that's fine and, uh, who are you? Who are you going to kick out the Kochs for a playoff and put in slot in USC and walk? That's my question.
00:40:01
I posed to you.
00:40:02
All right, so I think, you know, agree Alabama is gonna be in there if Northern name ones that knocks off Clemson.
00:40:09
That knocks off Florida because Florida is too lost to.
00:40:12
Then you have Ohio State of three.
00:40:15
And then I think you put you If USC wins out and wins their Pac 12 championship E would actually Sorry e.
00:40:32
So again, who did you have at number two or number three? Number two? Number three, you have ranked at the end of season.
00:40:41
I'm talking about How the hell is us? You're gonna get in their U S.
00:40:46
D a better thing than Notre Dame if the Notre Dame gets bounced out.
00:40:51
So how the hell are you gonna bounce Notre Dame and put USD over Notre Dame? What? Notre Dame is a better USC is going to get the nod over Notre Dame. I never said that.
00:41:05
Your present.
00:41:06
Okay, well, who are they gonna because I think you said Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio state.
00:41:11
Okay, So what do you have in two and three? Who do you have it? Two or three.
00:41:16
I didn't hear it.
00:41:18
I've noticed.
00:41:19
I've Ohio stated three.
00:41:22
Okay.
00:41:23
And I think Clemson's gonna lose, Which leaves a **** open.
00:41:26
One thing is gonna lose.
00:41:27
Okay? I think so.
00:41:29
That's too long. But they're no okay.
00:41:32
And what is gonna play Alabama where you go check maybe Texas A and M? I don't think so.
00:41:38
***y. And them get it.
00:41:40
How about Cincinnati? If if you don't wanna put in Texas A and M, maybe you put in Cincinnati who will have a conference championship game.
00:41:47
The problem is here.
00:41:48
There's so many moving pieces. Eggs.
00:41:52
Let's not forget the Big 12 championship.
00:41:54
Iowa State might make it in their Oklahoma make make.
00:41:57
Make it in there.
00:41:58
So you gotta realize I I'm against e would have put it any.
00:42:07
I wouldn't put in, um e Oklahoma in there.
00:42:11
I wouldn't e to live your thinking here because if they're ranked hired, you need a reason, Thio.
00:42:22
That's the thing.
00:42:23
They're not like right at the O, Jack.
00:42:29
Because is there a reason they're going to keep on going up.
00:42:33
They here.
00:42:34
Hold on, hold on.
00:42:35
But the problem is, you need a reason to rank over a team in the college football playoff ranking is especially when you're putting on this high.
00:42:43
So what's their reason is over Iowa State, who also won a one a a Big 12, a conference championship and who has also Bean now to multiple ranked opponents.
00:43:00
How are you gonna put him over? The schedule is a huge thing that they look at in the college football playoff.
00:43:08
So that's where I need an explanation over that.
00:43:11
Because I would state lost by 17 toe Louisiana.
00:43:16
I was ST yeah, but they beat Oklahoma and they beat it.
00:43:24
Those air to in They lost.
00:43:28
They lost dog lost like that on then.
00:43:33
Then again, you might get a chance again.
00:43:35
Against Oklahoma State, you might get a chance.
00:43:39
There's a lot you're gonna be Oh, nod.
00:43:43
You look at the rest of the schedule.
00:43:44
OU plays you in Oklahoma State place.
00:43:50
What? Will you do it if What if you are? C doesn't win, They're out.
00:43:56
There is no ends if sir bunts.
00:43:59
But they know if they win this around out And then, if they lose the conference championship care? Well, hell, they're out, and there's no guarantee they're making it in.
00:44:14
If they even want all three of those right, there's no guarantee would personally.
00:44:20
So it's all up in the air.
00:44:23
You know, I don't that I think there's no chance in hell there's They will not make it into the college football Top 25.
00:44:32
What are your chances you give them through? If they went out blood percentage I have presented, um, like, if so, if if they went out, if they win, if they went out because you're not looking at the dynamic because you're not caring about Ohio State right, I probably give them a 54 56% chance.
00:44:59
And I think it really depends on what that Notre Dame and Clinton result is because it's ambitious and ridiculous to think that USC will make it, that you should say there's a chance because you can't say they will make it, and that's why I was trying to prove it.
00:45:22
Prove to you there's so watch stuff going on to the point where you can't say they will make it.
00:45:27
Hell, I can't say Alabama will make it get that Notre Dame will make it.
00:45:32
You know that.
00:45:33
That's what I'm trying to prove here.
00:45:34
It's overly ambitious to say they will make it, even if they went out to make it a way.
00:45:42
They way, I have a low chance to make it and there's that.
00:45:48
That's a problem.
00:45:49
What are your bet? Nods because held at this point, the betting odds.
00:45:52
If there there's a good line that you would make as a bet a bet maker in Vegas on If U.
00:46:01
S C.
00:46:02
Will make the college football playoff, I guess if you are to make those, I bet on that in a second to get a look at the percentage, I think U S C.
00:46:12
Has a better chance to make it over Georgia.
00:46:15
India.
00:46:16
They have a better chance, I think, to make it over to lost Georgia to Los E over BYU over Northwestern.
00:46:28
I mean, I think the list kind of goes on over I e.
00:46:35
In that they're not even in the top 10.
00:46:40
I think there's a championship e.
00:46:44
You think that USC is a championship team? Simply e think that I'm saying the national.
00:46:54
That's where I was.
00:46:55
Because I'm saying that college where I'm reading off the national championship odds not the college football playoff spots, so and they're not on that.
00:47:05
Why the hell are they gonna make it in? I mean, if they're really Vegas never lies in my opinion.
00:47:12
Vegas never.
00:47:14
You know, Vegas.
00:47:17
Yeah.
00:47:18
I think the cards could put their way very easily.
00:47:21
Alright, I'm gonna say it again in order.
00:47:23
What? Yeah.
00:47:24
What do you need to ask you? What do you need for us to make the playoff? You need a lot.
00:47:30
You need a lot.
00:47:33
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what needs to happen.
00:47:36
Alabama beats Florida to lost Florida.
00:47:38
They're out.
00:47:39
Notre Dame beat Alabama Beach.
00:47:42
Do you lost flow out? They lose.
00:47:44
Yes.
00:47:45
Alabama Booth in the SEC championship.
00:47:47
Is that reasonable? Oh, in Alabama, I thought she said Georgia beat Alabama. No.
00:47:54
Really help you in that regard.
00:47:56
I'm gonna tell you why.
00:47:57
I don't really know it.
00:47:58
Why you would help you.
00:47:59
I mean, you help because that takes another possibility.
00:48:03
E Jack, I'm trying to tell you that Georgia lose.
00:48:09
I'm sorry.
00:48:11
How bad this Florida lose it.
00:48:13
You said that Alabama would be Georgia's.
00:48:16
And I was I was gonna say No.
00:48:18
It depends on how bad Florida lose.
00:48:20
In my opinion.
00:48:21
How bad does Florida lose and that Are you okay? All available for a regardless of where you're good in order. Data beats Clemson.
00:48:34
Nor did beat Clemson twice.
00:48:35
Clemson against all their teams, they're good.
00:48:38
But against the big teams, they're not.
00:48:39
Clemson's out.
00:48:41
High ranking U S T. Over collection.
00:48:44
That will never happen.
00:48:47
Yeah, I'm going to stay again.
00:48:52
E don't go a college football playoff.
00:48:56
Especially when I'm not saying okay.
00:48:58
E Vegas control office.
00:49:02
You lost? No.
00:49:03
Okay, Frank us over.
00:49:05
So far, two things have happened and you have a log in the long run Ohio State, right? I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and put them at three, because I think that's probably where they're gonna be.
00:49:17
You still need to convince.
00:49:19
And then wait, who's at number three? Ohio State? Who's at number three? Did you say? Oh, I was gonna say I thought you said you're putting us at number three.
00:49:30
After that, I was going todo lose my mind.
00:49:34
And then I think the discussion is really between Texas A and M, Cincinnati and USC.
00:49:44
And personally, I think USC gets the nod.
00:49:47
Are we going to forget about the Big 12 champion of fall? Hot off if your state wins eso USC going to get it? Because I truthfully think they're better tune than I would say.
00:50:04
I was saying had really bad loss to Louisiana at the beginning of the year.
00:50:06
I hope they lost by 17 U.
00:50:08
S C.
00:50:09
One.
00:50:10
Oh yea, we're realizing these guys have a practice.
00:50:12
Didn't even practice.
00:50:14
You still walk you? Yeah, tell your boarding.
00:50:21
I assume they were e t.
00:50:24
To write.
00:50:25
Wanted to loss.
00:50:27
I wouldn't e created champion USC, but it will also I assume it would matter that they also will have beaten three ranked teams on their way.
00:50:40
Way matter that you beat a ranked team.
00:50:45
It's the strength of schedule that really helps you get in college football playoff and it's highly prioritized.
00:50:51
So I think that it yes, it is going to be huge.
00:50:56
So here's what the Big 10 Championship will be bit sorry big trough and tell me that the number 11, it's Oklahoma wins Oklahoma wins out and let's see what Oklahoma is on their schedule.
00:51:15
They might have a close kin.
00:51:16
They have West Virginia.
00:51:18
Why do they have, uh, reschedule? Okay, that Baylor Who? Baylor is two and five.
00:51:24
So they're gonna be forget about that one.
00:51:26
So, basically, they're gonna be Baylor.
00:51:28
They're gonna be West Virginia.
00:51:30
If they want to have a chance.
00:51:32
They be West Virginia. They be Baylor.
00:51:35
They are eight and two.
00:51:37
Well, and they go into a championship game against the number nine Iowa State Cyclones.
00:51:44
And by the way, there it is.
00:51:46
Most likely at this point, there are going to be some drop egx in the standings.
00:51:52
So you would imagine, you know, that there's a chance Georgia loses.
00:51:57
There's a chance Florida loses.
00:51:59
Yeah, there's a chance Texas A and M loses.
00:52:02
You know, I feel like I was They would have a better chance than USC because USC has got to go over teams like Costa Coastal Carolina, of course, in Carolina Beach, BYU, They'll move up a bit.
00:52:15
I'm sorry.
00:52:16
I'll be a shot clear.
00:52:18
Don't disrespect the Sean to clears.
00:52:21
Disrespect shot declares the oh, Trump declares they a great team.
00:52:29
You know what you don't dare Disrespect? That's trying to clear is because my neighbor Cooper goes to Coastal Carolina e on skin.
00:52:46
Uh, we'll watch.
00:52:48
See how that one works out.
00:52:49
And that once again, was, uh, that and that's my and I said we were We were practiced that later on the show.
00:52:57
That's my cultural ballgame toe watch this week.
00:53:00
That's my game to watch this weekend.
00:53:02
Come on, let me get online.
00:53:04
Let me get my thing here with that is, that's big for BYU because they need it, uh, to advance in the rankings.
00:53:14
They need that win.
00:53:15
They can't they It has to happen.
00:53:18
By the way it's played in coastal Carolina.
00:53:21
There's going to be a great game.
00:53:24
Ah, minor college football playoff and implications.
00:53:28
And also Indiana has a chance that you get back on track.
00:53:33
Um, in terms of ranked winds, Uh uh.
00:53:39
With Indiana game Syracuse? No.
00:53:44
What? Notre Dame for Syracuse? No, not that game.
00:53:48
Um all right, Jack.
00:53:49
My game to watch this weekend.
00:53:51
This is going to be a test for me.
00:53:52
I know Auburn has been struggling this year, but my game to watch is Texas A and M in Auburn.
00:54:00
I think we'll see Texas going on the road to Auburn, By the way, Something and no doubt, um, I'm interested to see, because I have I'm gonna be honest.
00:54:11
I haven't watched Texas A them I know they have killed Ahmad.
00:54:13
I know they had that other dude.
00:54:15
Um but I'm going to see the only other text saying and I've watched it against Bama and that they just got smoked.
00:54:23
And that's frankly, the reason why I still would not put them in the college football playoff, no matter what.
00:54:30
Um, and also, I wonder how often is going to come off? Um, that that embarrassing loss to Alabama and Auburn, They've had itself here.
00:54:43
Okay, But I think there's a chance Jack ESPN is giving Auburn a 53.
00:54:50
1% chance to win this game, even though Texas A and M is a 6 6.
00:54:56
5 point favorite.
00:54:58
Um, so I I think this is important.
00:55:02
It's an important game because Osborne has, I think, a decent chance potentially knockoff text saying them, and with Texas A and M loses their two losses.
00:55:12
Alright, again, I think two losses this year.
00:55:17
That's the breaking point.
00:55:18
If you have two losses, I think you can pretty much say that you're not going to be in there and Texas A and M they're not gonna be in a Jack.
00:55:29
Remember, Texas A and M is gonna be a championship game.
00:55:32
So Texas A and then they only have two games left.
00:55:35
They have a game against Auburn and then they have a game against Tennessee.
00:55:38
These two games.
00:55:39
They're really important for them to play the best that they could be because they don't have another chance to go out and prove themselves in the championship game.
00:55:46
So I I'm gonna learn a lot about Texas A and M this weekend.
00:55:50
Um, and who knows? Maybe if they played really well, maybe I will say that Texas A and M maybe could get the nod over USC.
00:55:58
But if they lose, that gives us seen even better chance to get into the college football player.
00:56:05
So that's my game.
00:56:06
That's my game. To watch Texas A and M in auber.
00:56:09
Okay, fair enough. That's good point.
00:56:12
We gotta have ah who you got and will last.
00:56:19
Who you got up. We don't.
00:56:21
Can you grab on? Yeah, I'll go.
00:56:23
Finally, by the way, our last.
00:56:25
Where you got Steelers? Barely got past the Ravens, 1913 in a ah boring game in.
00:56:34
Ah, Pittsburgh.
00:56:36
And me and Drew both took the Steelers.
00:56:39
Said I have taken the liberty of updating or who you got records.
00:56:44
And Well, Drew, you get your again closer to 500 or six and seven.
00:56:50
I am, uh, but me.
00:56:53
I am on a roll.
00:56:54
I'm at eight and five.
00:57:01
Honestly, I'm letting that I'm in.
00:57:03
Ah, great position.
00:57:05
Toe emerged victorious at the end of the year, and I'm gonna grab the first annual Who you got championship you 2020.
00:57:15
You need to come back through.
00:57:18
I'm going back.
00:57:19
Coming back.
00:57:20
Only two games.
00:57:21
So two games behind.
00:57:23
Yep.
00:57:24
And, Jack, this was the best game that I'm gonna take a different one.
00:57:28
There's a better one.
00:57:30
All right, fair enough, but we do it.
00:57:35
My better type of I'm sorry.
00:57:37
Sorry.
00:57:38
I had a feeling afterwards.
00:57:40
I was like, Oh, shoot.
00:57:41
He probably e.
00:57:52
Okay, So, Jack, this game tonight, it's actually tomorrow night.
00:57:57
Tomorrow night on ESPN.
00:58:00
A 30 is what we see in an Appalachian state.
00:58:04
Um, so let's see if this actually impacts stand image and it doesn't help their school their two opposing teams.
00:58:15
But Jack Louisiana is probably going to keep playing cultural Carolina in the video watch in this dumb bell prime somebody game.
00:58:26
Who do you have? You have Louisiana or Appalachian stuff? Appalachian State Z.
00:58:35
I want you to go first cause I want to see what you you took.
00:58:38
Okay, But you shouldn't take the opposite of me.
00:58:41
We'll see. We'll see.
00:58:43
We'll see.
00:58:44
I'm I'm still trying to make an educated decision.
00:58:46
Okay? Make your decision and you're that I'll tell you.
00:58:51
No, you go first.
00:58:52
You go first.
00:58:54
No, don't. Alright.
00:58:55
Type it into the chat.
00:58:56
I'm not gonna look at it.
00:58:57
I'm gonna close my eyes.
00:58:58
All right? I'm not taking you.
00:59:00
You just say it.
00:59:02
I want e championship of 2020.
00:59:08
Competitive.
00:59:10
Okay, I'm trying to like back in.
00:59:12
You're not getting You're not making that.
00:59:14
You should just be the opposite of what I pick.
00:59:16
That's not how it should you ever gonna be.
00:59:19
It might not be just the oh Louisiana Castillo state.
00:59:29
I got a flash asleep that waas you want who I was gonna pick.
00:59:35
But I figured out that Louisiana 1 72 20 against their last opponent, ul Monroe.
00:59:44
And I don't care who the hell they are.
00:59:47
That is one held one. Yeah.
00:59:50
Uh, all right.
00:59:53
I died.
00:59:54
They a six And both teams are only one loss in the car.
00:59:59
E think that I think that I honestly think that the raging Cajun say beat? Um, Iowa State.
01:00:12
I would say it's good team Louisiana region.
01:00:15
Cajun is going to get the win on the road against AP State.
01:00:22
I I really think that's a possibility.
01:00:24
I don't I think you're sleeping on Louisiana.
01:00:28
I'm really not.
01:00:29
I'm gonna be honest, but that I think that's disrespectful.
01:00:36
I really dio All right.
01:00:41
Hey, put some respect on the date.
01:00:45
No respect on the name.
01:00:49
All right? I'll do just that.
01:00:51
All right, Jack, let's wrap this up.
01:00:55
I'll God, I got the outro.
01:00:58
Whatever.
01:00:59
Alright, guys.
01:01:00
Thank you for watching that number 67 of the Golden Hour.
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