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all right. I think we are live.
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This is the Nick is show.
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This is Nick ish at night where we bring in new guest every week with us today is Mr Watts.
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See what's going on, man.
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How you doing? Welcome to the show.
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I'm good. I'm good.
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Thank you guys for having me.
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And I want to start off by saying hope you guys, your families are safe and everything.
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And you guys have been doing well.
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Yeah, I'm staying healthy.
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Staying safe.
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Do appreciate the con words.
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You know, hope you had a happy and healthy holiday, too, bro.
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Yeah, it's been, uh I mean, as happy and healthy as it could get right now, right? Yeah.
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Speed off. Yeah. Good.
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I think you're gonna Yeah.
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Speaking of happy and healthy or happy and unhealthy, somebody has got traded.
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One of them happens to not be too healthy.
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He's a point guard.
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Neither we want or not. Mo.
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You wanna you wanna go ahead and, uh, yeah.
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No, I just came by.
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Yeah, I mean, it gets that night is supposed to be a show where we bring in, like, a new guest every week, and we talk about their experience as Knicks fan, but, I mean, two minutes before we started.
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We gotta watch bomb.
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Russell Westbrook is now a part of the Wizards and John Wall and a protective first round pick is going toe.
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Okay, See, that is crazy.
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Um, I think the biggest news of all is that Russell Westbrook is not coming to the Knicks.
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I'm cool with How do you How do you feel when you when you saw that? Now when I saw it, the first thing was like, Oh, my God.
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No way, Like, because Because we were led to believe that that it was like, they're running it back with Harden and Westbrook.
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But the second thing was, there goes my hopes for the playing because now Washington Now Washington is gonna be in the in the fight for the playoffs to um But I think this was better for the Wizards.
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I think they got a steal in this.
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I mean, we're going to see Westbrook and deal as a dual.
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How do you know? What do you do? You think that that was gonna be like because I have never had to think about it before it is, actually.
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You know, first time you gotta think about what kind of place that I have. I think to be pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I mean, honestly, I feel like it's kind of like a remix of what? Wall and dealer, but like like, I was just making a joke about the house like wall.
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What was it like he tore his Achilles in the shower or some **** like last year? You know what I mean? Like while he was recovering from a torn A C L I mean, Russ, maybe like getting old, getting injured himself, you know? I mean, but at least he's healthy right now, so I think it'll be an upgrade.
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What? I mean, Pilot, I think, um, this deal is gonna work out with rocket stuff.
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What about you all See what you think? But the rockets End of things.
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I mean, the fact that they got a first round pick out of it because I thought they would be like a one for one swap, which is like, you know, they're pretty similar players.
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They do almost the same exact things, but obviously, Westbrook does it a little better.
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But the fact that they gotta pick out of it, too.
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I think that's that's That's pretty good.
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Because there's still a chance that Washington doesn't work out.
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Because in terms of, like surrounding players, I don't think Washington has like enough pieces to really make an impact.
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So that might work out, like in in the Rockets favor.
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Yeah.
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I realized when I made when I announced the trade, I said, Okay, see? And none of you guys corrected way.
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All right.
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I'm like, All right.
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Okay.
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So you got another first round pick.
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This makes sense.
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Way Didn't skip a beat, bro.
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I'm Presti.
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How you know you get involved in this? I don't know.
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Came in in store.
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He as a pick six, um, eavesdropping on the trade call.
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Like the phone call.
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He's like, third dude on the line.
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Breathing e was gonna be like, Yeah, I know. It makes sense.
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You know, wall, with that monster contract, this was okay.
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See, They needed a you know, a ****ty contract to take on forex takes, but not with Houston.
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I mean, what's what's hard in walls relationship like, do we know? Are they boys like that? I have no idea.
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But for me, it feels like no matter if they're boys or not, I feel like no one wants to stick around, like in Houston.
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You know, I'm saying something always ends up happening, like whether Harding's involved or not.
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So I'm not sure, because I thought Westbrook and Harden were boys with the pregame, like dancing and everything and all that.
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But the only lasted one year.
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Yeah, I think hardens as as good as gone.
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Most likely, I don't see this is a This is obviously a downgrade.
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I mean, the whole teams that downgrade it took everybody out.
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I don't see why Hardened would want to stay any longer.
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And I'm kind of surprised trade hasn't happened yet.
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I most likely is gonna go to Brooklyn, which I want to ask you about real quick, cause I know you're a Brooklyn boy.
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What e I mean, I'm glad you're a Knick fan, but any reason for any particular reason why you're not a Nets fan? Or maybe you are? I don't know.
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No, no, never, never.
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I e I was a fan of Jell O like I don't know if you guys remember the playoff run they had, like, the Nets last year.
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They were like a team that, like, you know, you could still root for them because they were, like, underdogs. They had deal.
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Oh, they had the whole dancing with 69 music and everything.
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Vincent, who was on the next now, But but yeah, no, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
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I'm born and raised here, but, like, it's never been like my entire family.
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From my mom to my grandpa.
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Like my uncles, They've always been next since.
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So it kind of sort of got passed down to me.
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Yeah, like my Like, I got pictures of me, like as a baby.
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And next year, um, yeah, yeah.
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So always been the next family? Uh, my brother, Actually, I have twin brothers.
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Um, and there six years younger than me.
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But one of them, sadly, he converted Thio.
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He's a nut spin.
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I mean, six years ago in 2014 is you know, I mean, the Knicks have been garbage since we're gonna be real, and the Nets have been you know, I think that's I think 2014 or 2013 when that's actually kind of Brooklyn, so Yeah, right. Yeah.
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I think they have, they might have.
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Like the new generation.
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Their fan base is gonna go.
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Definitely.
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Like people like my brother, who are, like, kind of younger Knicks fans.
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Because, like when I put my brother's onto the Knicks, like, what am I supposed to tell them? Like, you know what I'm saying? But we had elections fed starting at point guard, and I'm telling my brother Yeah, he's not.
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He's nice.
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Um, but yeah, it was It was about time.
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I'm glad one of them stayed.
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So I still have, like, some, like, you know, support behind me, But yeah, my my other brother, he's deep, and he's deep.
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And he got Katie Kyrie jerseys already.
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He has his own channel for the Nets.
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Like it's insane.
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Yeah, Channel.
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Yeah, he has a instagram.
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Uh, yeah, but he makes highlights for, like, Carrie and kid.
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And I'm like, Oh, no, like nobody wants to see this man.
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E think on Li like jersey.
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I know Long Island people that, like people from Long Island, they love the Nets.
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But, like, I feel like their fans are still from the Jersey area.
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Yeah, probably.
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I feel like they're planets just like convert like all the Children.
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Are these hips through transplants? Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, Atlantic Avenue, everyone.
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They're gonna go toe broken tech, try Thio Barclays Ways.
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Probably not a bad idea. ****.
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Yeah, All right.
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I mean, I think I think the future of the Knicks is also is also bright, I think I think Nerlens Noel Wells interview got double the views of Katie's.
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You got out if you guys noticed that a lot of e baby brothers e I mean, that's what KD supposedly wanted, right? Guys? He's like, I like being low key this to do that Got mad burner accounts and, like be Harding.
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If you online he wanna be low key.
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Okay, Katie, whatever.
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Whatever you want to tell himself, right.
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Um, well, when it comes down to what do you did? You want Toby Topping to be drafted? You have any particular specific preferences, or how do you like to pick now? So now, like looking back at it, I think I really like the Obi Topping pick.
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Like, you know, the interviews he's given he's from Brooklyn to.
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So I gotta have that.
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That prize for for Brooklyn, for Brooklyn guy um, but initially, I'm not even gonna lie.
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I was tweeting.
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Like, if the next you have Toby tonight like I'm not watching this season.
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I was not I wasn't a fan because I was scared of, like, you know, Yeah, they were like, reports.
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I like his defense was terrible Swiss cheese defense.
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In the words of Clyde, um, s O I was I was really, like, ready? Well, I knew we had the eighth pick.
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So I was I was like, maybe we could get Carol Lewis.
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I was high on Karen Lewis because I thought I was watching his highlights, and he looked a lot like Shakeel.
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Just Alexander.
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And I was like, Man, if we could get anything similar to that I'm in I wasn't a huge fan of Halliburton, but yeah, I'd say my my first preference was definitely Carol Lewis.
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Um, but after watching all these interviews like, I think we did a good job with picking OBE.
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What about you guys? You wanna go first month? Yeah.
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I mean, I think if we were to trade a pick t to move up, I would have had a big problem with it, but yeah, I think I ate.
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It's gonna be pretty cool to see.
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And I think if we're gonna get anything where you get a lot of highlights, which I think for for Knicks fans, we don't get a lot of and like, I don't know about you guys, but I stay watching highlights from like 2013 2014 this day.
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I was literally There's a There's a mellow 40 minute Melo video on that house of highlights put up last year because Melo A that time, uh, I have a job with tryingto advertise them again.
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Um, yeah, and I start I watch, like the first half this morning while eating breakfast, watching old Nick highlights and that Melo is putting up.
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But I think topping like we don't get that many athletic guys and we do.
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We end up falling in love with them.
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I think you know, guys like, uh, Chris, meaning, but which Yeah, Smith Trump for a while, like Trump isn't even that athletic, but we still consider him way that dunk that way.
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Knicks fans just on athletic young players.
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All right, There you go. He's d Wade.
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He's always know what I mean.
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E mean athletic, though.
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Like, did you guys see? That would be, like, broke all the records.
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Which war records.
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So they posted it like an hour ago.
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So they had the the preseason.
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Like the test.
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Everyone's athleticism on opening, like, broke, like every single nick record in terms of, like athleticism.
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Like today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look it up afterwards.
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It was insane.
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I was like, ****, I knew it was athletic, but I didn't know it was that athletic.
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Like like to me.
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Like like, vertical And just like explosiveness, explosiveness, vert.
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Yeah, like a arc.
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And, yeah, that's insane.
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Because they were Because I know a lot of people were comparing him toe like to the r version of Zion innocence, which, like, I I could see I could see it.
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Yeah, like that four or five combo.
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I mean, I think I think last year when they're both in college, I think there kind of put on the same level.
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I mean, obviously not, you know, media wise.
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But as far as, like, athletic ability goes there definite place on the same level in Zion.
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I know we had a couple of, like, highlights defensively, but he wasn't that good defensively this past season.
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Yeah, I think 10 games.
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I mean, that's that's all true.
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But I mean, when he was on the court, he wasn't as good as you'd hoped he could be.
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But he is advertised as such.
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The whole I think it's fair to expect that he will be much better defensively, I think I mean, topping highlights again.
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I think he's gonna be a fan favorite easily, easily.
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Unless he has that Swiss cheese defense. E.
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I didn't see the thing about breaking the records.
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That's Austin Rivers.
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Just, like, say, his athleticism was crazy, like, shook his head, you know? I mean, there's no reason from the but, like, bull**** like that, you know? I mean, I was just like, Okay, maybe we do have some, you know? I mean, maybe we finally got some good luck.
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You want What do you think of Emmanuel quickly? Because you know him before the Knicks drafted.
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And I mean, either way, I'm sure you looked up a little bit since, but your quick thoughts on him? Yes.
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So I actually really like quickly.
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I like the fact that he gives us an option at point guard.
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I know he didn't play a lot of point guard.
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He was in the main ball handler at Kentucky, but that's because they had, like, two other guys they had.
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Maxi, who? The 70 Sixers? God, I believe, Um, so I know he wasn't handling the ball much, But when he watches interviews and like he said in high school, he was the primary ball handler.
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And I think right now in the n b A like if you have any point guard who's like, uh, can handle the ball, can shoot the rock and plays defense like that's pretty much a steel, you know? That's why we wanted Fred Vanvleet.
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And obviously it's like if he does anything remotely similar to that or can like progress and developed to be anything like that, I think he could be like, uh, like a like a spotlighted type of player that that no one saw coming but can actually contribute.
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What do you think about like because a lot of people kind of just like **** on the pick just cause of the Kentucky connection? What do you think that that like that whole 30 you know, I mean like, just like the next.
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Like doing wrong by just going straight Kentucky.
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Hey, you know, I'm not gonna lie, bro.
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Like, every time.
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Like somebody said, like every time the Knicks made a move, I was like, Alright, like, yes, it's a coincidence.
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It's not gonna happen again, like, and then the next thing it's like, Oh, another CIA signing another Kentucky guy like men like, Are we giving them too much credit for the signings? Or they just like being like, you know, is a nepotism gonna show more and more like as the seasons go on and time goes on, if it does, it's gonna be really like because right now it seems like they made pretty decent moves.
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It was smart about it.
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But if it turns out it was just toe get their own guys on board, then I think it's gonna be another rough, rough time out for for us fans.
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Definitely.
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Yeah, yeah, I could see to go either way as well.
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I mean, on one hand could be nepotism.
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The other hand, it could be a really, really good connection.
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Kentucky, known by most as the best college school.
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Maybe, you know, after Duke.
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Historic wise.
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And, uh, I think on our last podcast, not you mentioned someone from clutch got signed.
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Was it, Uh, who was it that got signed recently from clutch? Uh, no.
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Uh, no, no.
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And I think you know, uh, New Orleans.
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No, there's a clutch.
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But I mean, that you mentioned clutched because, like, you see in LeBron just signed an extension today.
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You know what I mean? And like Laker, it's a pretty much run by clutch now, you know, I mean, like, if we end up like giving the CIA all the power over the Knicks and we just end up good, I won't care, guys.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I feel like nowadays, like, you'll find a lot of teams with, like, four guys from Kentucky.
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You know what I'm saying? Like they have such a strong hold on many teams, so it's not their fault Way just got the one back Kentucky Lotto picked up talking about Kevin.
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Uh, the next K d e was so hype on that pic.
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Hey, look.
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Legendary summer league, bro.
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We all saw that some early, like, all right, we got Kobe slash k d.
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Let's go that first dunk when he took off, like when he was on the fast break.
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I was talking **** Thio, everyone, bro.
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I eat my words really quick like it was Oh my God, but knocks like he's like one guy that I feel like I don't have a lot of faith in, Like, I don't know if it's the same for you guys.
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I just feel like he can't He won't turn it around.
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E have more faith than Dennis Smith Jr Honestly, which is which is Wall to say.
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I know because he has a broken shot, not speak.
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It's not to speak like badly of Kevin Knox.
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I I don't know why.
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I just have my own inner gut feeling.
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I probably eat my words later that he's gonna have a comeback season.
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I don't see why not.
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Even if he had a season like he did two years ago, that's a comeback.
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Season is pretty good.
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You can't get any worse.
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You can't get any worse than even at his worst.
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He wasn't that much worse than Kevin knocks.
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All right? Yeah.
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E think you put any one of us out there and we would give you a D s Jake way have brown jeans and then e compound on the bench like dsk like I'll give them nice, mean mug e went downhill after he tried to take carry on.
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Oh, man, it is what it is.
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It went downhill when, like, they assigned Keith Smart the shot Dr.
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Till I go basically live with them for a whole summer, and we was all just like side on it.
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But at that point, I feel like someone's still trusted fist.
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Or like I will give him a shot.
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It was the worst thing that you possibly do, bro.
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Fis played all of us.
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You played all of us.
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Are you guys dfj fans? Oh, or or not recovering DSC fan, You know, I mean, I'm like an addict, addict friend.
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I mean, yeah, he was not.
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He was higher on yesterday that I was coming to draft.
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I like monk better during that time, but I think since that time frame, I think right now I think I'm higher on Dennis than than he is.
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E Frank.
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You hear Frank? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This'd pro Frank pod right here.
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Yeah.
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How Come on if it was E.
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If you had said you weren't pro Frank like more would've just put a big red X over E.
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How can you hate Frank? Have you seen this guy's face? Have a That guy is top three ***y and then be like hands Z.
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What do you hope for his game this upcoming season? I mean, because it I mean, obviously, stats wise, he's not that good.
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We know we know the intangibles are important, but, you know, we we also know that you got to do a little bit more than the intangibles to get on extension.
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So what do you hope for, Frank, this upcoming season for Frank? Yeah, you're right, like we know what he brings but like, even ask for, like pro Frank guys, if he doesn't like, improve, like, at least statistically a little bit, there's no more like defending that We could do so I would say, if he if he gets anywhere like my realistic goals for him, would be like around 10 points like five assists, five rebounds.
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I think that would be a solid, unlike decent shooting numbers like if you could get like anywhere from 32 to 36% from three.
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I know, Like Tom Thibodeau was a huge corner three guy, and I really think Frank could be like a solid corner three shooter.
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His form is really, like, smooth looking.
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It just, you know, hasn't gone down the way we wanted to go down.
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But like all the mechanics air there, hey, has a high release.
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So So I think he could get that going.
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So if he gives us anywhere 10 to 12 points per game, five assists, five rebounds, which I think is very realistic for him.
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I think that'll be solid and would extend them about you guys go ahead and dig in mouth.
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No, I mean, I was actually actually a follow up question.
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Do you think a zoo, much as you love him, Do you think he'd be going up to start right now? Um, honestly, I don't think he would be would be right for us to start him at the point guard right now.
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Like like, honestly speaking.
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Um, but I do think he should get, like, the secondary ball handler role.
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So if you put him in there with, like, Austin Rivers on and like Frank starts at the two, maybe, but then they keep going back and forth.
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I think I think that would be really good for his development, because I think Frank has a huge, confidence like issue in a sense that, like if the coach doesn't give him like that ball handling, like role or like doesn't show what he faith in him, then he takes it to heart.
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And like his, his place offers from it.
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Yeah, fact, because, like all these basically been going through in the last four years is like, what? Four different coaches and each one just like, just treat them like ****? Honestly, it's like you want to play in the full minutes.
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Uh, I don't know.
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He plays defense, so I'm hoping that's like a sign.
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Tips will just play him like 35 minutes.
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And at this point, like he'll be E won't even complain about getting overplayed.
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You know what I mean? Because it's just making up for lost time, you know? I mean, the last three years not getting playing time, e.
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I agree.
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I don't think he's ready to be in the starting lineup.
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I think, honestly, the starting lineup, what probably end up being Austin Rivers.
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Probably other Reggie Bullock or Alec works.
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You know that three point shooter you got, RJ? Probably Randall.
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If he's not traded and doesn't look like we traded anytime soon and Mitch at the five, it's probably Yeah, we're gonna roll out.
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Yeah, I actually wrote this down right before coming on the pod.
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Like I wrote down my my starting five that I would want, like, probable one. Yeah.
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So I had Austin Rivers at at the one with Frank at the To Which my preference. Yeah, on.
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Then you had r j o B in Mitch finishing out the phone court.
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But like, in all honesty, I think it's gonna be outfit pay another one on de neither either Rivers or Brooks at the two and then RG Randall.
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And I actually think because of Mitch is like deficiencies in terms of, like, foul trouble.
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And like his professionalism and all that, I actually think that him and Noel are gonna go, like, 50 50 like there's gonna be nights where he comes off the bench.
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Just because Thibodeau wants Noel starting, it's actually a good point.
00:20:53
You just brought up because like, I don't know if you all saw, like, there was a quote yesterday from tips like they asked him while Mitch and like he said some nice things about Mitch.
00:21:00
Maybe some generic stuff.
00:21:01
But then he went right to Nerlens like Noel without, like anybody else bringing it up.
00:21:05
I mean, he was like, Netherlands is gonna be a great, you know? He's a great defensive player, you know? I mean, you need iata.
00:21:11
So, like, are you all worried or do you all think that's like motivation for Mitch from tips? You know what I mean? Like, he's trying to subliminally like, yo, get him, like, amped up to go into camp and, you know, compete with y'all which y'all bank.
00:21:23
But, uh but honestly, honestly, things might be messed up, but I feel like Mitch is not the type to understand.
00:21:32
Tom is trying to challenge e like Michigan like, huh? What? I'm not starting e hope that's not the case.
00:21:45
If it is, I hope Tom like, takes him on the side because I general anything like, I love Mitch.
00:21:52
I love Mitch, but sometimes, like like he needs somebody next to him at all.
00:21:57
times like let him know like this is what this within that like whatever.
00:22:00
But now I think, like pure talent wise, there's gonna come a point where you kind of have to start Mitch, like my opinion, because I feel like even, uh, like this season, Mitch, like what he did this year, is already like, better than like, No, I was, like entire career, almost like in terms of, like, efficiency, what he's doing on the floor defensively, you know, I'm saying, I think Onley Noel's first year was like his only year where he had better numbers in Mitch.
00:22:25
And that's because he was supposed to be like Philly's guy.
00:22:29
And I think one of the key words, actually that was used that was thrown around was with maturity.
00:22:34
I think Africa, I don't know who made the quote or who said the word by no maturity was really being thrown around.
00:22:39
Uh, this whole with this whole Yeah, with this whole Mitch versus Noel topic, Um, but I think the point you may watch was pretty good at a point and be too talented not to start.
00:22:49
And I think that might be the case for topping, too, down the road.
00:22:52
I think I think Rain was gonna have to start just because he's the He has the most money on the on the paste on the A payroll.
00:23:00
And at a point, you hope you'd hope that Topping is able to outshine him where he'd have to start.
00:23:05
Um, And you hope the same for Frank to but home? Or is, um e Yeah.
00:23:12
Go ahead. Watch e.
00:23:14
I was just gonna say it tips was just talking about, like, all the rotation spots gotta be earned.
00:23:18
So I'm like, I'm just thinking like, that's maybe, I don't know, Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
00:23:22
That might just be a shot at Randall, you know? I mean, because remember last year he thought he was the guy, you know? I mean, e I mean, that's because Fizdale not he was LeBron And, like Julius Randle thought it was like his team.
00:23:33
I think that was like tips.
00:23:34
And like, you gotta earn, like, you know, the starting spot.
00:23:37
So I wouldn't be shocked if, like topping started.
00:23:39
Honestly, E.
00:23:43
Yeah, I know.
00:23:44
What I was gonna say was, there's this guy.
00:23:46
I forgot his name.
00:23:47
But there's this guy on Twitter who who updates the Knicks? Uh, salary, like every time designing, he puts up the salaries of all the guys.
00:23:55
Yeah, so it's like, crazy to see It's, like 18 million for Randall, and then the rest is like below five.
00:24:02
So it's like, How are you gonna not, like, start a guy who's making more than, like, 13 million more than, like, the next best guy on the roster? So that's one thing.
00:24:10
And then the second thing is, um, there was another article that that dropped today.
00:24:14
Apparently, I don't know if it's true enough, But last year, when Mitch was on the U.
00:24:19
S.
00:24:20
A select like camp, apparently he got sent home because because of his professionalism.
00:24:25
Gonna make it on time stuff.
00:24:26
Yeah, I dropped today.
00:24:28
Yeah, Jeff Van Gundy was talking about it.
00:24:31
Yeah, so that zey Yikes type of moment.
00:24:34
Yeah, that's that.
00:24:36
Don't sound good.
00:24:37
Like all that, like, kind of negative stuff about Mitch coming out in, like, the last 24 hours, like, you know, like I told them all early episode like what if they like gearing upto like just randomly trade him like how we got ready KP out the blue because like, my point is like, you know, *****es agent is right.
00:24:54
It's rich, Paul.
00:24:55
And he without fail, always gets his dudes paid.
00:24:57
You know? I mean, I don't know if Leon is gonna be, like, in his first year.
00:25:01
Wants to pay a big man that he's not sure about, You know? I mean, so, like, is that just a conspiracy? Because, like, I don't know.
00:25:08
Like, I think that's one conspiracy.
00:25:10
I have another conspiracy.
00:25:11
When is one are the Knicks supposed to resign Mitch by, I mean, they can.
00:25:16
I mean, they could do it next summer like, yeah, it don't pick up.
00:25:20
His option is a restricted free agent, But then if they pick it up in the next summer, he's unrestricted.
00:25:24
So it makes sense that they want to extend them to do it next summer.
00:25:28
Okay, so okay, in that case, my conspiracy might not work.
00:25:31
I I figured it might be e might be trying to do the opposite and kind of publicly devalue him a little bit.
00:25:38
So they consigned him at a smaller deal because he's expected to make a lot more money, just purely often talent.
00:25:45
But at this point might be too early to start dangling around the whole maturity issue because I mean his he could.
00:25:51
His game is on the court, and that's where he'll do it. Most of his talking.
00:25:55
And that's where he'll he'll earn his money, but yeah.
00:25:58
No, never mind What s all good, bro, but yeah, no, I agree.
00:26:03
As long as you could keep those ankles healthy.
00:26:06
Tax those ankles, Man with Tom.
00:26:09
Bob Mitch? Yeah, he springs an ankle like every other game.
00:26:13
He just so tall and lanky.
00:26:15
That's why you need, like, protein shakes, like every hour, bro.
00:26:19
Like he just got a pack on the muscles, you know? I mean, like, e, I would just take his game to the next level.
00:26:25
E think Worst case, we have another javale.
00:26:28
Mhm.
00:26:29
That's the worst case, in my opinion.
00:26:31
But that's like, Yeah, best case scenario.
00:26:34
He's like, I feel like he's a top talent top talent.
00:26:37
I think he could be like DeAndre, but we like perimeter defense to like in the modern MBA, you know, because you see Mitch, like shooting guards and point guard sometimes, you know? Yeah.
00:26:46
Yeah, like those.
00:26:47
Those three pointers that he blocks show that he was, like, leading the league.
00:26:53
Um, with the with the overall records, I think Vegas put down an over under 26 I think.
00:26:59
But even if that's not the case, let's stick with 26.
00:27:02
Watch what you think.
00:27:03
Over under.
00:27:04
Yeah, I wrote this down to I had had 28 to 30.
00:27:07
E was ready, man.
00:27:10
I was ready.
00:27:11
Your knickers show I was ready, but yeah, I had 28 40 for, like, 30 and 42 Like, around that range.
00:27:19
So I have over Yeah. Okay.
00:27:21
Yeah, I think I think that's reasonable.
00:27:24
****.
00:27:25
I we got we got some hard questions about this guy e just gonna bring up, Like, if the over under is Was it 26? You said, but it's like a 72 game season.
00:27:35
That's actually not bad.
00:27:36
Percentage wise.
00:27:37
I mean, like, Okay, like Vegas, actually, don't think we're actually that.
00:27:41
That's why I said maybe I think they put it at 20.
00:27:43
To actually which Oh, yeah, you know, it was 22 e.
00:27:47
Remember that ratio that **** out it would be like 27 e 20 22.
00:27:55
22 men that zayn disrespectful in my It's kind of disrespectful e people.
00:28:03
Yeah, that's true.
00:28:04
Yeah, but I've been saying that for the past five years, and they were like they were right, So e I mean, let's go down a little bit down.
00:28:13
Let's go a little bit down memory lane.
00:28:15
Um, I think the first time I noticed that you were as big a Knicks fan as you were is, uh, that that day February? No, I was in February February February 9th, third It was February because that was definitely a vacation, then literally February.
00:28:33
So it really for my birthday.
00:28:34
Um, what's what's his name again? Um dot dot biz Burton Zbig Latvian kid E Z That something like that.
00:28:47
Yeah, Yeah, I can recall camera call.
00:28:49
Hey, got traded.
00:28:51
And it was It was a shocking trade.
00:28:54
And you put out this You put that hilarious ****ing hilarious video out of your reaction.
00:29:00
I know if you still have it up, but, um, was it was that the first time you put out a video like that where you just I couldn't take it anymore.
00:29:08
You just had to let everybody know how you feel, bro.
00:29:11
All right, So I'm not sure if that one came before the O b j trade or after 40 b. J Yeah.
00:29:18
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:19
So it was the first time.
00:29:20
Yeah.
00:29:21
I mean, I've always been, like, passionate about the Knicks on Snapchat and Instagram, but there'll be stories, right? But that one my boy Hashim and I, we could we couldn't handle it.
00:29:30
So we're just sitting in the car in silence on then way just took out the phones that were, like, we let out the entire days frustration.
00:29:38
Like that night in the car because we found out in the morning when we were in class on, then our boys actually in Dallas Mavericks, man, like in New York, like, how is that possible? Right, but, um eso he's hey, looked at his phone and he's like, bro, I don't like what, and they're like, you guys, you guys just traded KP tow us, and then I was like, You're lying.
00:29:59
You're lying.
00:30:00
You're like, you're definitely lying, and then he shows us the phone.
00:30:03
And on top of that, like after like I hated d s J from being I'm a Frank I eso not just KP getting traded to Dallas, that the fact that we're only getting like Dennis Smith Jr back as like, the the talented guy e was like I was on the floor.
00:30:16
My friends have videos of me like crying on the floor.
00:30:19
They definitely gonna use that against me someday.
00:30:22
But no, I was, like, heartbroken at first.
00:30:25
I was mad at the Knicks, though, because I don't know the details.
00:30:28
Eso I was just, like, going off on like, Steve Mills.
00:30:32
And I was like, Yo, Dolan Mills all their fault on then.
00:30:37
And then I found out that, like, a p was the one who initiated.
00:30:39
And that's when I like I let it like I unleashed it on e archived A for now.
00:30:45
But if the hatred comes back, I'll have to take it out.
00:30:50
How do you guys feel that that day? I mean, my man over here was on vacation. Yeah.
00:30:55
I try not to live traumatic experiences or we live traumatic experiences.
00:31:00
Well, you know, you was used at the doctor.
00:31:03
You Was that the doctor You're telling people whose that the doctor? Well, noticing the quotation.
00:31:09
Well, uh, another day.
00:31:12
But no, I mean, it wasn't just that one tweet that he was being traded to the maps.
00:31:17
It was It was a Siris of tweets, bro.
00:31:19
It was like the Knicks are looking into trading Kristaps Porzingis or Chris as president is no longer happy on the Knicks.
00:31:26
And then, like, 30 minutes after that, prisons has been traded to the Mavericks like s so fast.
00:31:33
But everybody was watching what was going on.
00:31:35
And it's like that year was intended thio tank for Ah, I'm losing track of what year that was That was 2019.
00:31:44
Yeah, that was a Zion year way.
00:31:46
Thought we were gonna get Zion.
00:31:48
And, uh, just 2019.
00:31:51
We thought we thought we were gonna tank.
00:31:52
We were tanking.
00:31:53
We were I thought we gonna tank for Zion.
00:31:55
And then KP is gonna come back, and then it's gonna be KPN Zion.
00:31:58
And that's what we're gonna get k d and Kyrie way about again.
00:32:03
The ****ing next five title and, uh, one by one.
00:32:07
It, you know, starting with KP just and we were supporting at that time, like and his scanner and Emmanuel Mudiay Well, like it was Cole Aldrich still on the team.
00:32:19
I don't even know e Frank.
00:32:21
Do not get me started.
00:32:23
Do not get me started on those guys.
00:32:26
I'm telling you like before, before I go to sleep every night like I have nightmares about we're gonna get you right, kid, that Fizdale said thio grow.
00:32:39
But I I think moody is like like Fizdale son, like on the low, low key.
00:32:44
There's no other reason this guy was like, Think I was up his ass, bro.
00:32:50
And I was like, What do you see in this guy? He compared him to D Wade.
00:32:53
Do you guys remember that, bro? That hadn't Oh, my God.
00:32:58
But yeah, no, that was that year was bad.
00:33:00
That year was bad.
00:33:02
Like I couldn't take K p and O B J in the same year.
00:33:05
I was like, Man, we actually finished with the worst record that year, though, and getting it on, and we got the 3rd 3rd pick.
00:33:12
I mean physical.
00:33:13
Did that e Yeah, Yeah, e I'm a fan of Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what was gonna ask you about right now.
00:33:21
Like what? do you kinda project for him since we're on that since we did kind of tank for R J.
00:33:25
Like, do you see him as, like the franchise savior? What do you think I actually think? Yeah, like a lot of people are gonna say, Oh, what's so special about RJ? Like he hasn't shown anything like shootings out there. Whatever right.
00:33:38
But I generally think he's like one of those players.
00:33:41
Like like, you could say the same thing about Jimmy Butler.
00:33:44
What does he have that special or like out of the ordinary right? And like Jimmy Butler like, he's like, just a solid all around player.
00:33:51
And he just took the Miami Heat to the finals, Um, and not to compare our Jato LeBron.
00:33:57
But like when LeBron did come into the leak, he was like, he didn't have ah, like a great shot, you know, he was just he was athletic, and obviously, RGs athleticism is not the same as LeBron's, but r J.
00:34:09
He doesn't get enough credit for his playmaking, in my opinion, like he's so unselfish.
00:34:13
I think he was like the most unselfish player last year, like on the team, and he still managed to drop like the points he did.
00:34:19
He want us the Rockets game? I don't know if you guys remember that game like, yeah, when he puts his head down and get to the rim, it's like it's kind of like he's going slow mo.
00:34:26
I don't know if you got to feel the same way.
00:34:28
Yeah, it does.
00:34:29
But it's like him.
00:34:31
E just It's like exactly like you brought a Jimmy Butler.
00:34:34
It looks that's who are the reminds you of bro.
00:34:36
Like when he goes slow mo to the rim.
00:34:38
It's like slow Mo because he just like body and dudes.
00:34:41
And he's like a year old kid.
00:34:43
That's what I mean.
00:34:44
If he's not gonna be a superstar, he's gonna be like an All Star at least I mean, stop him going to the rim and he's like, not even old enough to drink yet.
00:34:51
But good mo, you're just gonna say, Would you consider him untouchable? I would, when I found out that I think this like this summer, him and Mitch were like the Untouchables.
00:35:02
But then they said they got taken off the Untouchables on.
00:35:06
Then, when I heard that I was like No, like there's no way you could create RJ.
00:35:09
He's like I graduated from ST John's.
00:35:12
His dad was a Johnny played for ST John's.
00:35:14
His mom was on the track team for ST John's.
00:35:16
His grandpa was a Knicks fan.
00:35:18
I think, like with the last two picks, we got O B and R J like it's great that they grew up as next fans because because obviously, we don't have the glamour that we used to.
00:35:26
So our only hope is our our kids that actually grew up rooting for us.
00:35:31
They actually they're gonna wear the next batch with, like, a like some pride, you know, on with R J.
00:35:35
His demeanor, his motivation.
00:35:38
He's like like the day and age we live in.
00:35:40
It's all about social media.
00:35:41
This guy does not post any videos of him training.
00:35:44
Everything is on the low.
00:35:45
He moves in silence like that's That's some scary stuff.
00:35:49
And I'm watching the interview yesterday that face he made when, when they asked him about the all rookie team, bro, that was some like scary face that he did like it looked like he was about to come for the n B A.
00:36:00
He's gave me goose bumps, bro.
00:36:02
Like if we actually have a killer on our hands Young RJ like, actually turned into that guy.
00:36:07
Yeah, I mean, they call them Maple Mama for a reason, right? E don't know.
00:36:12
They're still going by that.
00:36:13
I haven't heard it one time.
00:36:15
They're going by headband row, not the biggest fan.
00:36:17
E Z.
00:36:20
Yeah, it's really just that demeanor in New York City.
00:36:23
On the Knicks, that really stands.
00:36:24
That's what that's what.
00:36:25
That's what Frank doesn't have.
00:36:26
That's what knocks doesn't happen.
00:36:28
And that's what Mitch for at least currently doesn't have.
00:36:30
It's really just that that it factor and just not being afraid of spotlight, I think top it might be a similar guy.
00:36:35
Things will be looking for a dunk at every moment he got, which for for Knicks fans and for Knicks players, its's not common at all.
00:36:44
Yeah, I think, with with R J and Topping Yeah, like topping A Z, you were saying like this guy, he actually, he quoted like someone quoted him, saying, Um, ever since he learned how to dunk cause he had a growth spurt like a d, he was in that talk.
00:36:58
But he said, ever since, like the moment he found out he could dunk, he was like No more layups.
00:37:02
E don't think, Yeah, I don't think we have any other guy like like that besides Mitch.
00:37:08
And even though I like, I don't like the guy Max Kelly on first take, he always talks about Oh, the Knicks need a high flyer, like for a flyer for years.
00:37:18
And that's the one thing that we need, Uh, a week.
00:37:21
The lake and no have been.
00:37:22
But he was like, Yeah, if the Knicks had a high flyer, that's box office and they need a high flying superstar to really bring that franchise back.
00:37:29
And I think with OBE in r J, that's exactly what we get.
00:37:33
We got RJ who's like the assassin, but, like, not too athletic, he's making things happen and and obeys like his right hand man getting things done like above the rim.
00:37:41
But I still think art is gonna be, uh, the main guy, the better player.
00:37:45
Yeah.
00:37:46
Yeah.
00:37:47
What do you like real quick? Just like what? Your predictions like the stat line for R.
00:37:51
J.
00:37:53
This season, I would not be surprised if r J went like anywhere from 2020 to 22 points.
00:37:59
Um, Onda like 66 rebounds.
00:38:02
And I feel like if we had more shot makers, he would have had more assists.
00:38:06
So I'll keep him out like I like three because he needs He needs spacing.
00:38:10
Yeah, he needs facing.
00:38:11
What about the efficiency? Um I mean, like, even he like he said it, he was like, he started off really bad.
00:38:18
And I remember watching him.
00:38:20
Like taking those free throws, man, they were They were terrible.
00:38:22
But he didn't.
00:38:23
He didn't prove so.
00:38:24
I think his numbers are gonna go up, but I still think he's gonna be around like the 75 range for free throws and stuff.
00:38:30
And I saw, like, 45 30.
00:38:33
Mhm.
00:38:35
Yeah.
00:38:36
Alright, man, I e He did, uh, we're gonna try to wrap this up in just a sec.
00:38:43
You play a lot of basketball yourself, I believe.
00:38:46
Is there a particular? Is there a specific player? Ah, you'd like to model your game after, um, I'm not even a lie.
00:38:53
It all my friends compared me to Melo the way I play.
00:38:58
Um, recently they started comparing me Tau chi Larry.
00:39:03
But that's because, like, he has, he has a huge ass and apparently eso That's one thing, right? But so did Melo.
00:39:15
Like he's gonna put a pause on this whole e No, don't even pause.
00:39:21
Just put calories ass on the screen.
00:39:24
A big speech? A Yeah, but mellow.
00:39:30
Like I looked up to him like from a long time.
00:39:32
Like from a long while ago.
00:39:34
So, like, I remember, like, I'm that guy who like and I got this.
00:39:39
I think I got this right from him.
00:39:40
Like I'll be in the paint bullying, and then I'll miss the first four layups.
00:39:45
But I'll get my own rebound like those four times, I'll get my own rebound and get that fifth one to go on.
00:39:49
And then, um yeah, and and And that movie does where, like, he goes, like, in and out, like, three times, and then just pulls up.
00:39:59
Yeah, I do that a lot.
00:40:00
A lot. Yeah.
00:40:01
So I'd say, like, pretty much like, uh, chubby. Mellow.
00:40:05
Not not the not the Denver Melo. I'm not athletic.
00:40:07
Portland.
00:40:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:09
You could say poor Portland.
00:40:10
Mellow? Yeah, a little more bully ball, though.
00:40:12
I like go hand in the paint. Yeah.
00:40:14
Okay. Okay.
00:40:15
The chair.
00:40:16
Alright, man.
00:40:18
WASI truly appreciate you put, you know, coming on the show with us.
00:40:22
Love the hat. Love the whole set.
00:40:24
You got, uh, love it.
00:40:27
Um, is there is there any place that you you know, anyone who want to shout out or any pages or anything like that? Um, no, I don't I don't even have a page.
00:40:36
Um, but, you know, if my brothers have pages, so I don't One of them is called X Knicks.
00:40:43
He just posts.
00:40:44
Like how? How? X Knicks air to like x Knicks players.
00:40:46
They're doing funny people.
00:40:47
Hey, posted about Jason Randle today.
00:40:50
Oh, What's he What's he up to these days? He just got signed by the thunder.
00:40:54
A point guard? Yeah, and my other brother, he has a next page.
00:40:58
I'm not I'm not ripping that.
00:41:00
It's all good.
00:41:01
Let's let that's daily do that.
00:41:04
Yeah, but I was actually thinking of not really a podcast, but sometimes, Like like that poison this video I might like, you know, now and then posts posts.
00:41:13
Um, I let my emotions out on an idea.
00:41:16
Eso your Yeah, you're welcome back here anytime.
00:41:21
And we had This is this is awesome.
00:41:23
Had a great time with you, man.
00:41:25
Um, and for everyone listening.
00:41:27
Thank you so much for watching this live A dish of nick ish.
00:41:30
Um, make sure you check us out every Wednesday for Nikki Shaw at night and for weekly podcast.
00:41:35
Make sure you subscribe to all podcasting platforms and check us out on SportsCastr every Wednesday at eight o'clock form or guests, uh, to talk Knicks And this week's guest again was WASI again.
00:41:46
Man, thank you so much for coming on.
00:41:48
Yeah, Thank you.
00:41:50
Hopefully, you know, forget across the great next season.
00:41:53
Starting in like a week or two.
00:41:57
Something like that.
00:41:58
Pretty much crazy You gotta started.
00:42:00
Wants our goal for the playoffs.
00:42:01
Virtually hold hands right now.
00:42:04
Way make the playoffs.
00:42:07
I'm coming back here to talk about, no doubt.
00:42:10
No doubt, bro.
00:42:12
Alright, guys, Until next time, stay safe and hope you enjoy the rest of your NYT piece.
00:42:19
Take care, guys.
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Knick-is @ Nite w. Wasi - Offseason Thoughts, Media Day, Upcoming Season
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Dec 2, 2020
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all right. I think we are live.
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This is the Nick is show.
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This is Nick ish at night where we bring in new guest every week with us today is Mr Watts.
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See what's going on, man.
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How you doing? Welcome to the show.
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I'm good. I'm good.
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Thank you guys for having me.
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And I want to start off by saying hope you guys, your families are safe and everything.
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And you guys have been doing well.
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Yeah, I'm staying healthy.
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Staying safe.
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Do appreciate the con words.
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You know, hope you had a happy and healthy holiday, too, bro.
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Yeah, it's been, uh I mean, as happy and healthy as it could get right now, right? Yeah.
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Speed off. Yeah. Good.
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I think you're gonna Yeah.
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Speaking of happy and healthy or happy and unhealthy, somebody has got traded.
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One of them happens to not be too healthy.
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He's a point guard.
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Neither we want or not. Mo.
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You wanna you wanna go ahead and, uh, yeah.
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No, I just came by.
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Yeah, I mean, it gets that night is supposed to be a show where we bring in, like, a new guest every week, and we talk about their experience as Knicks fan, but, I mean, two minutes before we started.
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We gotta watch bomb.
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Russell Westbrook is now a part of the Wizards and John Wall and a protective first round pick is going toe.
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Okay, See, that is crazy.
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Um, I think the biggest news of all is that Russell Westbrook is not coming to the Knicks.
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I'm cool with How do you How do you feel when you when you saw that? Now when I saw it, the first thing was like, Oh, my God.
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No way, Like, because Because we were led to believe that that it was like, they're running it back with Harden and Westbrook.
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But the second thing was, there goes my hopes for the playing because now Washington Now Washington is gonna be in the in the fight for the playoffs to um But I think this was better for the Wizards.
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I think they got a steal in this.
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I mean, we're going to see Westbrook and deal as a dual.
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How do you know? What do you do? You think that that was gonna be like because I have never had to think about it before it is, actually.
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You know, first time you gotta think about what kind of place that I have. I think to be pretty good.
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Yeah.
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I mean, honestly, I feel like it's kind of like a remix of what? Wall and dealer, but like like, I was just making a joke about the house like wall.
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What was it like he tore his Achilles in the shower or some **** like last year? You know what I mean? Like while he was recovering from a torn A C L I mean, Russ, maybe like getting old, getting injured himself, you know? I mean, but at least he's healthy right now, so I think it'll be an upgrade.
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What? I mean, Pilot, I think, um, this deal is gonna work out with rocket stuff.
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What about you all See what you think? But the rockets End of things.
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I mean, the fact that they got a first round pick out of it because I thought they would be like a one for one swap, which is like, you know, they're pretty similar players.
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They do almost the same exact things, but obviously, Westbrook does it a little better.
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But the fact that they gotta pick out of it, too.
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I think that's that's That's pretty good.
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Because there's still a chance that Washington doesn't work out.
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Because in terms of, like surrounding players, I don't think Washington has like enough pieces to really make an impact.
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So that might work out, like in in the Rockets favor.
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Yeah.
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I realized when I made when I announced the trade, I said, Okay, see? And none of you guys corrected way.
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All right.
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I'm like, All right.
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Okay.
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So you got another first round pick.
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This makes sense.
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Way Didn't skip a beat, bro.
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I'm Presti.
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How you know you get involved in this? I don't know.
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Came in in store.
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He as a pick six, um, eavesdropping on the trade call.
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Like the phone call.
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He's like, third dude on the line.
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Breathing e was gonna be like, Yeah, I know. It makes sense.
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You know, wall, with that monster contract, this was okay.
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See, They needed a you know, a ****ty contract to take on forex takes, but not with Houston.
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I mean, what's what's hard in walls relationship like, do we know? Are they boys like that? I have no idea.
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But for me, it feels like no matter if they're boys or not, I feel like no one wants to stick around, like in Houston.
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You know, I'm saying something always ends up happening, like whether Harding's involved or not.
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So I'm not sure, because I thought Westbrook and Harden were boys with the pregame, like dancing and everything and all that.
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But the only lasted one year.
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Yeah, I think hardens as as good as gone.
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Most likely, I don't see this is a This is obviously a downgrade.
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I mean, the whole teams that downgrade it took everybody out.
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I don't see why Hardened would want to stay any longer.
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And I'm kind of surprised trade hasn't happened yet.
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I most likely is gonna go to Brooklyn, which I want to ask you about real quick, cause I know you're a Brooklyn boy.
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What e I mean, I'm glad you're a Knick fan, but any reason for any particular reason why you're not a Nets fan? Or maybe you are? I don't know.
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No, no, never, never.
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I e I was a fan of Jell O like I don't know if you guys remember the playoff run they had, like, the Nets last year.
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They were like a team that, like, you know, you could still root for them because they were, like, underdogs. They had deal.
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Oh, they had the whole dancing with 69 music and everything.
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Vincent, who was on the next now, But but yeah, no, Brooklyn, Brooklyn.
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I'm born and raised here, but, like, it's never been like my entire family.
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From my mom to my grandpa.
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Like my uncles, They've always been next since.
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So it kind of sort of got passed down to me.
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Yeah, like my Like, I got pictures of me, like as a baby.
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And next year, um, yeah, yeah.
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So always been the next family? Uh, my brother, Actually, I have twin brothers.
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Um, and there six years younger than me.
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But one of them, sadly, he converted Thio.
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He's a nut spin.
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I mean, six years ago in 2014 is you know, I mean, the Knicks have been garbage since we're gonna be real, and the Nets have been you know, I think that's I think 2014 or 2013 when that's actually kind of Brooklyn, so Yeah, right. Yeah.
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I think they have, they might have.
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Like the new generation.
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Their fan base is gonna go.
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Definitely.
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Like people like my brother, who are, like, kind of younger Knicks fans.
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Because, like when I put my brother's onto the Knicks, like, what am I supposed to tell them? Like, you know what I'm saying? But we had elections fed starting at point guard, and I'm telling my brother Yeah, he's not.
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He's nice.
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Um, but yeah, it was It was about time.
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I'm glad one of them stayed.
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So I still have, like, some, like, you know, support behind me, But yeah, my my other brother, he's deep, and he's deep.
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And he got Katie Kyrie jerseys already.
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He has his own channel for the Nets.
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Like it's insane.
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Yeah, Channel.
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Yeah, he has a instagram.
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Uh, yeah, but he makes highlights for, like, Carrie and kid.
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And I'm like, Oh, no, like nobody wants to see this man.
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E think on Li like jersey.
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I know Long Island people that, like people from Long Island, they love the Nets.
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But, like, I feel like their fans are still from the Jersey area.
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Yeah, probably.
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I feel like they're planets just like convert like all the Children.
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Are these hips through transplants? Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, Atlantic Avenue, everyone.
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They're gonna go toe broken tech, try Thio Barclays Ways.
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Probably not a bad idea. ****.
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Yeah, All right.
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I mean, I think I think the future of the Knicks is also is also bright, I think I think Nerlens Noel Wells interview got double the views of Katie's.
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You got out if you guys noticed that a lot of e baby brothers e I mean, that's what KD supposedly wanted, right? Guys? He's like, I like being low key this to do that Got mad burner accounts and, like be Harding.
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If you online he wanna be low key.
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Okay, Katie, whatever.
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Whatever you want to tell himself, right.
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Um, well, when it comes down to what do you did? You want Toby Topping to be drafted? You have any particular specific preferences, or how do you like to pick now? So now, like looking back at it, I think I really like the Obi Topping pick.
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Like, you know, the interviews he's given he's from Brooklyn to.
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So I gotta have that.
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That prize for for Brooklyn, for Brooklyn guy um, but initially, I'm not even gonna lie.
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I was tweeting.
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Like, if the next you have Toby tonight like I'm not watching this season.
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I was not I wasn't a fan because I was scared of, like, you know, Yeah, they were like, reports.
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I like his defense was terrible Swiss cheese defense.
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In the words of Clyde, um, s O I was I was really, like, ready? Well, I knew we had the eighth pick.
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So I was I was like, maybe we could get Carol Lewis.
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I was high on Karen Lewis because I thought I was watching his highlights, and he looked a lot like Shakeel.
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Just Alexander.
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And I was like, Man, if we could get anything similar to that I'm in I wasn't a huge fan of Halliburton, but yeah, I'd say my my first preference was definitely Carol Lewis.
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Um, but after watching all these interviews like, I think we did a good job with picking OBE.
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What about you guys? You wanna go first month? Yeah.
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I mean, I think if we were to trade a pick t to move up, I would have had a big problem with it, but yeah, I think I ate.
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It's gonna be pretty cool to see.
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And I think if we're gonna get anything where you get a lot of highlights, which I think for for Knicks fans, we don't get a lot of and like, I don't know about you guys, but I stay watching highlights from like 2013 2014 this day.
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I was literally There's a There's a mellow 40 minute Melo video on that house of highlights put up last year because Melo A that time, uh, I have a job with tryingto advertise them again.
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Um, yeah, and I start I watch, like the first half this morning while eating breakfast, watching old Nick highlights and that Melo is putting up.
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But I think topping like we don't get that many athletic guys and we do.
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We end up falling in love with them.
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I think you know, guys like, uh, Chris, meaning, but which Yeah, Smith Trump for a while, like Trump isn't even that athletic, but we still consider him way that dunk that way.
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Knicks fans just on athletic young players.
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All right, There you go. He's d Wade.
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He's always know what I mean.
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E mean athletic, though.
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Like, did you guys see? That would be, like, broke all the records.
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Which war records.
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So they posted it like an hour ago.
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So they had the the preseason.
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Like the test.
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Everyone's athleticism on opening, like, broke, like every single nick record in terms of, like athleticism.
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Like today.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Look it up afterwards.
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It was insane.
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I was like, ****, I knew it was athletic, but I didn't know it was that athletic.
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Like like to me.
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Like like, vertical And just like explosiveness, explosiveness, vert.
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Yeah, like a arc.
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And, yeah, that's insane.
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Because they were Because I know a lot of people were comparing him toe like to the r version of Zion innocence, which, like, I I could see I could see it.
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Yeah, like that four or five combo.
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I mean, I think I think last year when they're both in college, I think there kind of put on the same level.
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I mean, obviously not, you know, media wise.
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But as far as, like, athletic ability goes there definite place on the same level in Zion.
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I know we had a couple of, like, highlights defensively, but he wasn't that good defensively this past season.
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Yeah, I think 10 games.
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I mean, that's that's all true.
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But I mean, when he was on the court, he wasn't as good as you'd hoped he could be.
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But he is advertised as such.
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The whole I think it's fair to expect that he will be much better defensively, I think I mean, topping highlights again.
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I think he's gonna be a fan favorite easily, easily.
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Unless he has that Swiss cheese defense. E.
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I didn't see the thing about breaking the records.
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That's Austin Rivers.
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Just, like, say, his athleticism was crazy, like, shook his head, you know? I mean, there's no reason from the but, like, bull**** like that, you know? I mean, I was just like, Okay, maybe we do have some, you know? I mean, maybe we finally got some good luck.
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You want What do you think of Emmanuel quickly? Because you know him before the Knicks drafted.
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And I mean, either way, I'm sure you looked up a little bit since, but your quick thoughts on him? Yes.
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So I actually really like quickly.
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I like the fact that he gives us an option at point guard.
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I know he didn't play a lot of point guard.
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He was in the main ball handler at Kentucky, but that's because they had, like, two other guys they had.
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Maxi, who? The 70 Sixers? God, I believe, Um, so I know he wasn't handling the ball much, But when he watches interviews and like he said in high school, he was the primary ball handler.
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And I think right now in the n b A like if you have any point guard who's like, uh, can handle the ball, can shoot the rock and plays defense like that's pretty much a steel, you know? That's why we wanted Fred Vanvleet.
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And obviously it's like if he does anything remotely similar to that or can like progress and developed to be anything like that, I think he could be like, uh, like a like a spotlighted type of player that that no one saw coming but can actually contribute.
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What do you think about like because a lot of people kind of just like **** on the pick just cause of the Kentucky connection? What do you think that that like that whole 30 you know, I mean like, just like the next.
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Like doing wrong by just going straight Kentucky.
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Hey, you know, I'm not gonna lie, bro.
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Like, every time.
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Like somebody said, like every time the Knicks made a move, I was like, Alright, like, yes, it's a coincidence.
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It's not gonna happen again, like, and then the next thing it's like, Oh, another CIA signing another Kentucky guy like men like, Are we giving them too much credit for the signings? Or they just like being like, you know, is a nepotism gonna show more and more like as the seasons go on and time goes on, if it does, it's gonna be really like because right now it seems like they made pretty decent moves.
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It was smart about it.
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But if it turns out it was just toe get their own guys on board, then I think it's gonna be another rough, rough time out for for us fans.
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Definitely.
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Yeah, yeah, I could see to go either way as well.
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I mean, on one hand could be nepotism.
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The other hand, it could be a really, really good connection.
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Kentucky, known by most as the best college school.
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Maybe, you know, after Duke.
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Historic wise.
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And, uh, I think on our last podcast, not you mentioned someone from clutch got signed.
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Was it, Uh, who was it that got signed recently from clutch? Uh, no.
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Uh, no, no.
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And I think you know, uh, New Orleans.
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No, there's a clutch.
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But I mean, that you mentioned clutched because, like, you see in LeBron just signed an extension today.
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You know what I mean? And like Laker, it's a pretty much run by clutch now, you know, I mean, like, if we end up like giving the CIA all the power over the Knicks and we just end up good, I won't care, guys.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I feel like nowadays, like, you'll find a lot of teams with, like, four guys from Kentucky.
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You know what I'm saying? Like they have such a strong hold on many teams, so it's not their fault Way just got the one back Kentucky Lotto picked up talking about Kevin.
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Uh, the next K d e was so hype on that pic.
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Hey, look.
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Legendary summer league, bro.
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We all saw that some early, like, all right, we got Kobe slash k d.
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Let's go that first dunk when he took off, like when he was on the fast break.
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I was talking **** Thio, everyone, bro.
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I eat my words really quick like it was Oh my God, but knocks like he's like one guy that I feel like I don't have a lot of faith in, Like, I don't know if it's the same for you guys.
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I just feel like he can't He won't turn it around.
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E have more faith than Dennis Smith Jr Honestly, which is which is Wall to say.
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I know because he has a broken shot, not speak.
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It's not to speak like badly of Kevin Knox.
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I I don't know why.
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I just have my own inner gut feeling.
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I probably eat my words later that he's gonna have a comeback season.
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I don't see why not.
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Even if he had a season like he did two years ago, that's a comeback.
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Season is pretty good.
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You can't get any worse.
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You can't get any worse than even at his worst.
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He wasn't that much worse than Kevin knocks.
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All right? Yeah.
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E think you put any one of us out there and we would give you a D s Jake way have brown jeans and then e compound on the bench like dsk like I'll give them nice, mean mug e went downhill after he tried to take carry on.
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Oh, man, it is what it is.
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It went downhill when, like, they assigned Keith Smart the shot Dr.
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Till I go basically live with them for a whole summer, and we was all just like side on it.
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But at that point, I feel like someone's still trusted fist.
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Or like I will give him a shot.
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It was the worst thing that you possibly do, bro.
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Fis played all of us.
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You played all of us.
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Are you guys dfj fans? Oh, or or not recovering DSC fan, You know, I mean, I'm like an addict, addict friend.
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I mean, yeah, he was not.
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He was higher on yesterday that I was coming to draft.
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I like monk better during that time, but I think since that time frame, I think right now I think I'm higher on Dennis than than he is.
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E Frank.
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You hear Frank? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This'd pro Frank pod right here.
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Yeah.
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How Come on if it was E.
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If you had said you weren't pro Frank like more would've just put a big red X over E.
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How can you hate Frank? Have you seen this guy's face? Have a That guy is top three ***y and then be like hands Z.
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What do you hope for his game this upcoming season? I mean, because it I mean, obviously, stats wise, he's not that good.
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We know we know the intangibles are important, but, you know, we we also know that you got to do a little bit more than the intangibles to get on extension.
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So what do you hope for, Frank, this upcoming season for Frank? Yeah, you're right, like we know what he brings but like, even ask for, like pro Frank guys, if he doesn't like, improve, like, at least statistically a little bit, there's no more like defending that We could do so I would say, if he if he gets anywhere like my realistic goals for him, would be like around 10 points like five assists, five rebounds.
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I think that would be a solid, unlike decent shooting numbers like if you could get like anywhere from 32 to 36% from three.
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I know, Like Tom Thibodeau was a huge corner three guy, and I really think Frank could be like a solid corner three shooter.
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His form is really, like, smooth looking.
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It just, you know, hasn't gone down the way we wanted to go down.
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But like all the mechanics air there, hey, has a high release.
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So So I think he could get that going.
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So if he gives us anywhere 10 to 12 points per game, five assists, five rebounds, which I think is very realistic for him.
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I think that'll be solid and would extend them about you guys go ahead and dig in mouth.
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No, I mean, I was actually actually a follow up question.
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Do you think a zoo, much as you love him, Do you think he'd be going up to start right now? Um, honestly, I don't think he would be would be right for us to start him at the point guard right now.
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Like like, honestly speaking.
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Um, but I do think he should get, like, the secondary ball handler role.
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So if you put him in there with, like, Austin Rivers on and like Frank starts at the two, maybe, but then they keep going back and forth.
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I think I think that would be really good for his development, because I think Frank has a huge, confidence like issue in a sense that, like if the coach doesn't give him like that ball handling, like role or like doesn't show what he faith in him, then he takes it to heart.
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And like his, his place offers from it.
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Yeah, fact, because, like all these basically been going through in the last four years is like, what? Four different coaches and each one just like, just treat them like ****? Honestly, it's like you want to play in the full minutes.
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Uh, I don't know.
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He plays defense, so I'm hoping that's like a sign.
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Tips will just play him like 35 minutes.
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And at this point, like he'll be E won't even complain about getting overplayed.
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You know what I mean? Because it's just making up for lost time, you know? I mean, the last three years not getting playing time, e.
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I agree.
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I don't think he's ready to be in the starting lineup.
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I think, honestly, the starting lineup, what probably end up being Austin Rivers.
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Probably other Reggie Bullock or Alec works.
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You know that three point shooter you got, RJ? Probably Randall.
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If he's not traded and doesn't look like we traded anytime soon and Mitch at the five, it's probably Yeah, we're gonna roll out.
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Yeah, I actually wrote this down right before coming on the pod.
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Like I wrote down my my starting five that I would want, like, probable one. Yeah.
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So I had Austin Rivers at at the one with Frank at the To Which my preference. Yeah, on.
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Then you had r j o B in Mitch finishing out the phone court.
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But like, in all honesty, I think it's gonna be outfit pay another one on de neither either Rivers or Brooks at the two and then RG Randall.
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And I actually think because of Mitch is like deficiencies in terms of, like, foul trouble.
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And like his professionalism and all that, I actually think that him and Noel are gonna go, like, 50 50 like there's gonna be nights where he comes off the bench.
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Just because Thibodeau wants Noel starting, it's actually a good point.
00:20:53
You just brought up because like, I don't know if you all saw, like, there was a quote yesterday from tips like they asked him while Mitch and like he said some nice things about Mitch.
00:21:00
Maybe some generic stuff.
00:21:01
But then he went right to Nerlens like Noel without, like anybody else bringing it up.
00:21:05
I mean, he was like, Netherlands is gonna be a great, you know? He's a great defensive player, you know? I mean, you need iata.
00:21:11
So, like, are you all worried or do you all think that's like motivation for Mitch from tips? You know what I mean? Like, he's trying to subliminally like, yo, get him, like, amped up to go into camp and, you know, compete with y'all which y'all bank.
00:21:23
But, uh but honestly, honestly, things might be messed up, but I feel like Mitch is not the type to understand.
00:21:32
Tom is trying to challenge e like Michigan like, huh? What? I'm not starting e hope that's not the case.
00:21:45
If it is, I hope Tom like, takes him on the side because I general anything like, I love Mitch.
00:21:52
I love Mitch, but sometimes, like like he needs somebody next to him at all.
00:21:57
times like let him know like this is what this within that like whatever.
00:22:00
But now I think, like pure talent wise, there's gonna come a point where you kind of have to start Mitch, like my opinion, because I feel like even, uh, like this season, Mitch, like what he did this year, is already like, better than like, No, I was, like entire career, almost like in terms of, like, efficiency, what he's doing on the floor defensively, you know, I'm saying, I think Onley Noel's first year was like his only year where he had better numbers in Mitch.
00:22:25
And that's because he was supposed to be like Philly's guy.
00:22:29
And I think one of the key words, actually that was used that was thrown around was with maturity.
00:22:34
I think Africa, I don't know who made the quote or who said the word by no maturity was really being thrown around.
00:22:39
Uh, this whole with this whole Yeah, with this whole Mitch versus Noel topic, Um, but I think the point you may watch was pretty good at a point and be too talented not to start.
00:22:49
And I think that might be the case for topping, too, down the road.
00:22:52
I think I think Rain was gonna have to start just because he's the He has the most money on the on the paste on the A payroll.
00:23:00
And at a point, you hope you'd hope that Topping is able to outshine him where he'd have to start.
00:23:05
Um, And you hope the same for Frank to but home? Or is, um e Yeah.
00:23:12
Go ahead. Watch e.
00:23:14
I was just gonna say it tips was just talking about, like, all the rotation spots gotta be earned.
00:23:18
So I'm like, I'm just thinking like, that's maybe, I don't know, Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
00:23:22
That might just be a shot at Randall, you know? I mean, because remember last year he thought he was the guy, you know? I mean, e I mean, that's because Fizdale not he was LeBron And, like Julius Randle thought it was like his team.
00:23:33
I think that was like tips.
00:23:34
And like, you gotta earn, like, you know, the starting spot.
00:23:37
So I wouldn't be shocked if, like topping started.
00:23:39
Honestly, E.
00:23:43
Yeah, I know.
00:23:44
What I was gonna say was, there's this guy.
00:23:46
I forgot his name.
00:23:47
But there's this guy on Twitter who who updates the Knicks? Uh, salary, like every time designing, he puts up the salaries of all the guys.
00:23:55
Yeah, so it's like, crazy to see It's, like 18 million for Randall, and then the rest is like below five.
00:24:02
So it's like, How are you gonna not, like, start a guy who's making more than, like, 13 million more than, like, the next best guy on the roster? So that's one thing.
00:24:10
And then the second thing is, um, there was another article that that dropped today.
00:24:14
Apparently, I don't know if it's true enough, But last year, when Mitch was on the U.
00:24:19
S.
00:24:20
A select like camp, apparently he got sent home because because of his professionalism.
00:24:25
Gonna make it on time stuff.
00:24:26
Yeah, I dropped today.
00:24:28
Yeah, Jeff Van Gundy was talking about it.
00:24:31
Yeah, so that zey Yikes type of moment.
00:24:34
Yeah, that's that.
00:24:36
Don't sound good.
00:24:37
Like all that, like, kind of negative stuff about Mitch coming out in, like, the last 24 hours, like, you know, like I told them all early episode like what if they like gearing upto like just randomly trade him like how we got ready KP out the blue because like, my point is like, you know, *****es agent is right.
00:24:54
It's rich, Paul.
00:24:55
And he without fail, always gets his dudes paid.
00:24:57
You know? I mean, I don't know if Leon is gonna be, like, in his first year.
00:25:01
Wants to pay a big man that he's not sure about, You know? I mean, so, like, is that just a conspiracy? Because, like, I don't know.
00:25:08
Like, I think that's one conspiracy.
00:25:10
I have another conspiracy.
00:25:11
When is one are the Knicks supposed to resign Mitch by, I mean, they can.
00:25:16
I mean, they could do it next summer like, yeah, it don't pick up.
00:25:20
His option is a restricted free agent, But then if they pick it up in the next summer, he's unrestricted.
00:25:24
So it makes sense that they want to extend them to do it next summer.
00:25:28
Okay, so okay, in that case, my conspiracy might not work.
00:25:31
I I figured it might be e might be trying to do the opposite and kind of publicly devalue him a little bit.
00:25:38
So they consigned him at a smaller deal because he's expected to make a lot more money, just purely often talent.
00:25:45
But at this point might be too early to start dangling around the whole maturity issue because I mean his he could.
00:25:51
His game is on the court, and that's where he'll do it. Most of his talking.
00:25:55
And that's where he'll he'll earn his money, but yeah.
00:25:58
No, never mind What s all good, bro, but yeah, no, I agree.
00:26:03
As long as you could keep those ankles healthy.
00:26:06
Tax those ankles, Man with Tom.
00:26:09
Bob Mitch? Yeah, he springs an ankle like every other game.
00:26:13
He just so tall and lanky.
00:26:15
That's why you need, like, protein shakes, like every hour, bro.
00:26:19
Like he just got a pack on the muscles, you know? I mean, like, e, I would just take his game to the next level.
00:26:25
E think Worst case, we have another javale.
00:26:28
Mhm.
00:26:29
That's the worst case, in my opinion.
00:26:31
But that's like, Yeah, best case scenario.
00:26:34
He's like, I feel like he's a top talent top talent.
00:26:37
I think he could be like DeAndre, but we like perimeter defense to like in the modern MBA, you know, because you see Mitch, like shooting guards and point guard sometimes, you know? Yeah.
00:26:46
Yeah, like those.
00:26:47
Those three pointers that he blocks show that he was, like, leading the league.
00:26:53
Um, with the with the overall records, I think Vegas put down an over under 26 I think.
00:26:59
But even if that's not the case, let's stick with 26.
00:27:02
Watch what you think.
00:27:03
Over under.
00:27:04
Yeah, I wrote this down to I had had 28 to 30.
00:27:07
E was ready, man.
00:27:10
I was ready.
00:27:11
Your knickers show I was ready, but yeah, I had 28 40 for, like, 30 and 42 Like, around that range.
00:27:19
So I have over Yeah. Okay.
00:27:21
Yeah, I think I think that's reasonable.
00:27:24
****.
00:27:25
I we got we got some hard questions about this guy e just gonna bring up, Like, if the over under is Was it 26? You said, but it's like a 72 game season.
00:27:35
That's actually not bad.
00:27:36
Percentage wise.
00:27:37
I mean, like, Okay, like Vegas, actually, don't think we're actually that.
00:27:41
That's why I said maybe I think they put it at 20.
00:27:43
To actually which Oh, yeah, you know, it was 22 e.
00:27:47
Remember that ratio that **** out it would be like 27 e 20 22.
00:27:55
22 men that zayn disrespectful in my It's kind of disrespectful e people.
00:28:03
Yeah, that's true.
00:28:04
Yeah, but I've been saying that for the past five years, and they were like they were right, So e I mean, let's go down a little bit down.
00:28:13
Let's go a little bit down memory lane.
00:28:15
Um, I think the first time I noticed that you were as big a Knicks fan as you were is, uh, that that day February? No, I was in February February February 9th, third It was February because that was definitely a vacation, then literally February.
00:28:33
So it really for my birthday.
00:28:34
Um, what's what's his name again? Um dot dot biz Burton Zbig Latvian kid E Z That something like that.
00:28:47
Yeah, Yeah, I can recall camera call.
00:28:49
Hey, got traded.
00:28:51
And it was It was a shocking trade.
00:28:54
And you put out this You put that hilarious ****ing hilarious video out of your reaction.
00:29:00
I know if you still have it up, but, um, was it was that the first time you put out a video like that where you just I couldn't take it anymore.
00:29:08
You just had to let everybody know how you feel, bro.
00:29:11
All right, So I'm not sure if that one came before the O b j trade or after 40 b. J Yeah.
00:29:18
Yeah, yeah.
00:29:19
So it was the first time.
00:29:20
Yeah.
00:29:21
I mean, I've always been, like, passionate about the Knicks on Snapchat and Instagram, but there'll be stories, right? But that one my boy Hashim and I, we could we couldn't handle it.
00:29:30
So we're just sitting in the car in silence on then way just took out the phones that were, like, we let out the entire days frustration.
00:29:38
Like that night in the car because we found out in the morning when we were in class on, then our boys actually in Dallas Mavericks, man, like in New York, like, how is that possible? Right, but, um eso he's hey, looked at his phone and he's like, bro, I don't like what, and they're like, you guys, you guys just traded KP tow us, and then I was like, You're lying.
00:29:59
You're lying.
00:30:00
You're like, you're definitely lying, and then he shows us the phone.
00:30:03
And on top of that, like after like I hated d s J from being I'm a Frank I eso not just KP getting traded to Dallas, that the fact that we're only getting like Dennis Smith Jr back as like, the the talented guy e was like I was on the floor.
00:30:16
My friends have videos of me like crying on the floor.
00:30:19
They definitely gonna use that against me someday.
00:30:22
But no, I was, like, heartbroken at first.
00:30:25
I was mad at the Knicks, though, because I don't know the details.
00:30:28
Eso I was just, like, going off on like, Steve Mills.
00:30:32
And I was like, Yo, Dolan Mills all their fault on then.
00:30:37
And then I found out that, like, a p was the one who initiated.
00:30:39
And that's when I like I let it like I unleashed it on e archived A for now.
00:30:45
But if the hatred comes back, I'll have to take it out.
00:30:50
How do you guys feel that that day? I mean, my man over here was on vacation. Yeah.
00:30:55
I try not to live traumatic experiences or we live traumatic experiences.
00:31:00
Well, you know, you was used at the doctor.
00:31:03
You Was that the doctor You're telling people whose that the doctor? Well, noticing the quotation.
00:31:09
Well, uh, another day.
00:31:12
But no, I mean, it wasn't just that one tweet that he was being traded to the maps.
00:31:17
It was It was a Siris of tweets, bro.
00:31:19
It was like the Knicks are looking into trading Kristaps Porzingis or Chris as president is no longer happy on the Knicks.
00:31:26
And then, like, 30 minutes after that, prisons has been traded to the Mavericks like s so fast.
00:31:33
But everybody was watching what was going on.
00:31:35
And it's like that year was intended thio tank for Ah, I'm losing track of what year that was That was 2019.
00:31:44
Yeah, that was a Zion year way.
00:31:46
Thought we were gonna get Zion.
00:31:48
And, uh, just 2019.
00:31:51
We thought we thought we were gonna tank.
00:31:52
We were tanking.
00:31:53
We were I thought we gonna tank for Zion.
00:31:55
And then KP is gonna come back, and then it's gonna be KPN Zion.
00:31:58
And that's what we're gonna get k d and Kyrie way about again.
00:32:03
The ****ing next five title and, uh, one by one.
00:32:07
It, you know, starting with KP just and we were supporting at that time, like and his scanner and Emmanuel Mudiay Well, like it was Cole Aldrich still on the team.
00:32:19
I don't even know e Frank.
00:32:21
Do not get me started.
00:32:23
Do not get me started on those guys.
00:32:26
I'm telling you like before, before I go to sleep every night like I have nightmares about we're gonna get you right, kid, that Fizdale said thio grow.
00:32:39
But I I think moody is like like Fizdale son, like on the low, low key.
00:32:44
There's no other reason this guy was like, Think I was up his ass, bro.
00:32:50
And I was like, What do you see in this guy? He compared him to D Wade.
00:32:53
Do you guys remember that, bro? That hadn't Oh, my God.
00:32:58
But yeah, no, that was that year was bad.
00:33:00
That year was bad.
00:33:02
Like I couldn't take K p and O B J in the same year.
00:33:05
I was like, Man, we actually finished with the worst record that year, though, and getting it on, and we got the 3rd 3rd pick.
00:33:12
I mean physical.
00:33:13
Did that e Yeah, Yeah, e I'm a fan of Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly what was gonna ask you about right now.
00:33:21
Like what? do you kinda project for him since we're on that since we did kind of tank for R J.
00:33:25
Like, do you see him as, like the franchise savior? What do you think I actually think? Yeah, like a lot of people are gonna say, Oh, what's so special about RJ? Like he hasn't shown anything like shootings out there. Whatever right.
00:33:38
But I generally think he's like one of those players.
00:33:41
Like like, you could say the same thing about Jimmy Butler.
00:33:44
What does he have that special or like out of the ordinary right? And like Jimmy Butler like, he's like, just a solid all around player.
00:33:51
And he just took the Miami Heat to the finals, Um, and not to compare our Jato LeBron.
00:33:57
But like when LeBron did come into the leak, he was like, he didn't have ah, like a great shot, you know, he was just he was athletic, and obviously, RGs athleticism is not the same as LeBron's, but r J.
00:34:09
He doesn't get enough credit for his playmaking, in my opinion, like he's so unselfish.
00:34:13
I think he was like the most unselfish player last year, like on the team, and he still managed to drop like the points he did.
00:34:19
He want us the Rockets game? I don't know if you guys remember that game like, yeah, when he puts his head down and get to the rim, it's like it's kind of like he's going slow mo.
00:34:26
I don't know if you got to feel the same way.
00:34:28
Yeah, it does.
00:34:29
But it's like him.
00:34:31
E just It's like exactly like you brought a Jimmy Butler.
00:34:34
It looks that's who are the reminds you of bro.
00:34:36
Like when he goes slow mo to the rim.
00:34:38
It's like slow Mo because he just like body and dudes.
00:34:41
And he's like a year old kid.
00:34:43
That's what I mean.
00:34:44
If he's not gonna be a superstar, he's gonna be like an All Star at least I mean, stop him going to the rim and he's like, not even old enough to drink yet.
00:34:51
But good mo, you're just gonna say, Would you consider him untouchable? I would, when I found out that I think this like this summer, him and Mitch were like the Untouchables.
00:35:02
But then they said they got taken off the Untouchables on.
00:35:06
Then, when I heard that I was like No, like there's no way you could create RJ.
00:35:09
He's like I graduated from ST John's.
00:35:12
His dad was a Johnny played for ST John's.
00:35:14
His mom was on the track team for ST John's.
00:35:16
His grandpa was a Knicks fan.
00:35:18
I think, like with the last two picks, we got O B and R J like it's great that they grew up as next fans because because obviously, we don't have the glamour that we used to.
00:35:26
So our only hope is our our kids that actually grew up rooting for us.
00:35:31
They actually they're gonna wear the next batch with, like, a like some pride, you know, on with R J.
00:35:35
His demeanor, his motivation.
00:35:38
He's like like the day and age we live in.
00:35:40
It's all about social media.
00:35:41
This guy does not post any videos of him training.
00:35:44
Everything is on the low.
00:35:45
He moves in silence like that's That's some scary stuff.
00:35:49
And I'm watching the interview yesterday that face he made when, when they asked him about the all rookie team, bro, that was some like scary face that he did like it looked like he was about to come for the n B A.
00:36:00
He's gave me goose bumps, bro.
00:36:02
Like if we actually have a killer on our hands Young RJ like, actually turned into that guy.
00:36:07
Yeah, I mean, they call them Maple Mama for a reason, right? E don't know.
00:36:12
They're still going by that.
00:36:13
I haven't heard it one time.
00:36:15
They're going by headband row, not the biggest fan.
00:36:17
E Z.
00:36:20
Yeah, it's really just that demeanor in New York City.
00:36:23
On the Knicks, that really stands.
00:36:24
That's what that's what.
00:36:25
That's what Frank doesn't have.
00:36:26
That's what knocks doesn't happen.
00:36:28
And that's what Mitch for at least currently doesn't have.
00:36:30
It's really just that that it factor and just not being afraid of spotlight, I think top it might be a similar guy.
00:36:35
Things will be looking for a dunk at every moment he got, which for for Knicks fans and for Knicks players, its's not common at all.
00:36:44
Yeah, I think, with with R J and Topping Yeah, like topping A Z, you were saying like this guy, he actually, he quoted like someone quoted him, saying, Um, ever since he learned how to dunk cause he had a growth spurt like a d, he was in that talk.
00:36:58
But he said, ever since, like the moment he found out he could dunk, he was like No more layups.
00:37:02
E don't think, Yeah, I don't think we have any other guy like like that besides Mitch.
00:37:08
And even though I like, I don't like the guy Max Kelly on first take, he always talks about Oh, the Knicks need a high flyer, like for a flyer for years.
00:37:18
And that's the one thing that we need, Uh, a week.
00:37:21
The lake and no have been.
00:37:22
But he was like, Yeah, if the Knicks had a high flyer, that's box office and they need a high flying superstar to really bring that franchise back.
00:37:29
And I think with OBE in r J, that's exactly what we get.
00:37:33
We got RJ who's like the assassin, but, like, not too athletic, he's making things happen and and obeys like his right hand man getting things done like above the rim.
00:37:41
But I still think art is gonna be, uh, the main guy, the better player.
00:37:45
Yeah.
00:37:46
Yeah.
00:37:47
What do you like real quick? Just like what? Your predictions like the stat line for R.
00:37:51
J.
00:37:53
This season, I would not be surprised if r J went like anywhere from 2020 to 22 points.
00:37:59
Um, Onda like 66 rebounds.
00:38:02
And I feel like if we had more shot makers, he would have had more assists.
00:38:06
So I'll keep him out like I like three because he needs He needs spacing.
00:38:10
Yeah, he needs facing.
00:38:11
What about the efficiency? Um I mean, like, even he like he said it, he was like, he started off really bad.
00:38:18
And I remember watching him.
00:38:20
Like taking those free throws, man, they were They were terrible.
00:38:22
But he didn't.
00:38:23
He didn't prove so.
00:38:24
I think his numbers are gonna go up, but I still think he's gonna be around like the 75 range for free throws and stuff.
00:38:30
And I saw, like, 45 30.
00:38:33
Mhm.
00:38:35
Yeah.
00:38:36
Alright, man, I e He did, uh, we're gonna try to wrap this up in just a sec.
00:38:43
You play a lot of basketball yourself, I believe.
00:38:46
Is there a particular? Is there a specific player? Ah, you'd like to model your game after, um, I'm not even a lie.
00:38:53
It all my friends compared me to Melo the way I play.
00:38:58
Um, recently they started comparing me Tau chi Larry.
00:39:03
But that's because, like, he has, he has a huge ass and apparently eso That's one thing, right? But so did Melo.
00:39:15
Like he's gonna put a pause on this whole e No, don't even pause.
00:39:21
Just put calories ass on the screen.
00:39:24
A big speech? A Yeah, but mellow.
00:39:30
Like I looked up to him like from a long time.
00:39:32
Like from a long while ago.
00:39:34
So, like, I remember, like, I'm that guy who like and I got this.
00:39:39
I think I got this right from him.
00:39:40
Like I'll be in the paint bullying, and then I'll miss the first four layups.
00:39:45
But I'll get my own rebound like those four times, I'll get my own rebound and get that fifth one to go on.
00:39:49
And then, um yeah, and and And that movie does where, like, he goes, like, in and out, like, three times, and then just pulls up.
00:39:59
Yeah, I do that a lot.
00:40:00
A lot. Yeah.
00:40:01
So I'd say, like, pretty much like, uh, chubby. Mellow.
00:40:05
Not not the not the Denver Melo. I'm not athletic.
00:40:07
Portland.
00:40:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:09
You could say poor Portland.
00:40:10
Mellow? Yeah, a little more bully ball, though.
00:40:12
I like go hand in the paint. Yeah.
00:40:14
Okay. Okay.
00:40:15
The chair.
00:40:16
Alright, man.
00:40:18
WASI truly appreciate you put, you know, coming on the show with us.
00:40:22
Love the hat. Love the whole set.
00:40:24
You got, uh, love it.
00:40:27
Um, is there is there any place that you you know, anyone who want to shout out or any pages or anything like that? Um, no, I don't I don't even have a page.
00:40:36
Um, but, you know, if my brothers have pages, so I don't One of them is called X Knicks.
00:40:43
He just posts.
00:40:44
Like how? How? X Knicks air to like x Knicks players.
00:40:46
They're doing funny people.
00:40:47
Hey, posted about Jason Randle today.
00:40:50
Oh, What's he What's he up to these days? He just got signed by the thunder.
00:40:54
A point guard? Yeah, and my other brother, he has a next page.
00:40:58
I'm not I'm not ripping that.
00:41:00
It's all good.
00:41:01
Let's let that's daily do that.
00:41:04
Yeah, but I was actually thinking of not really a podcast, but sometimes, Like like that poison this video I might like, you know, now and then posts posts.
00:41:13
Um, I let my emotions out on an idea.
00:41:16
Eso your Yeah, you're welcome back here anytime.
00:41:21
And we had This is this is awesome.
00:41:23
Had a great time with you, man.
00:41:25
Um, and for everyone listening.
00:41:27
Thank you so much for watching this live A dish of nick ish.
00:41:30
Um, make sure you check us out every Wednesday for Nikki Shaw at night and for weekly podcast.
00:41:35
Make sure you subscribe to all podcasting platforms and check us out on SportsCastr every Wednesday at eight o'clock form or guests, uh, to talk Knicks And this week's guest again was WASI again.
00:41:46
Man, thank you so much for coming on.
00:41:48
Yeah, Thank you.
00:41:50
Hopefully, you know, forget across the great next season.
00:41:53
Starting in like a week or two.
00:41:57
Something like that.
00:41:58
Pretty much crazy You gotta started.
00:42:00
Wants our goal for the playoffs.
00:42:01
Virtually hold hands right now.
00:42:04
Way make the playoffs.
00:42:07
I'm coming back here to talk about, no doubt.
00:42:10
No doubt, bro.
00:42:12
Alright, guys, Until next time, stay safe and hope you enjoy the rest of your NYT piece.
00:42:19
Take care, guys.
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