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00:00:06
All right, everybody, welcome back to SportsCastr News A New Week New news Back again Matt Brooks. Adam Are Brick.
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Adam.
00:00:15
How you doing today? On this lovely Tuesday morning? It's a beauty to beauty The rain is gone, the sun shines out and and we're officially in I know it feels like we've been there.
00:00:22
It's officially marks the start of the N B A.
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Off season.
00:00:26
Yeah, we are.
00:00:27
Well, we're in it like we have training camps starting today.
00:00:32
Um, you'll probably if you're on NBA Twitter, you'll be seeing quotes and stuff like that coming out from your respective teams.
00:00:40
So it's It's exciting.
00:00:41
Um, it's a little bit weird.
00:00:43
I know they're doing individual workouts to start, and then it sort of moving into more team based workouts.
00:00:48
So, um, it'll be it'll be pretty individual this week.
00:00:51
We'll be hearing stuff from individual players what they're working on this season, you know, it's gonna it's gonna work kind of like a media a media day with with less, uh, less one on one moments.
00:01:03
I think it'll it'll be cool, though I think it'll be a fun.
00:01:06
We, um, I personally think there's like So our plan today is to go through three teams that are the most interesting to us each for training camp.
00:01:18
And I think there's a lot of different ways you can go with this.
00:01:21
So rather than me just sitting here blabbering and talking on and on and on, I wanna hear what your first pick is.
00:01:28
Yeah, so, like you said, there's going to these training camps.
00:01:30
We know that some teams have made big moves, and maybe it's a little bit flashier from the draft or in through free agency that you think automatically they're gonna be exciting or interesting.
00:01:38
But I think there's some lower level ones that maybe have a little bit of legs, and it could be fun to keep it on.
00:01:44
I'll go with I'll go with one that further on my list, but that I've mentioned before.
00:01:50
Coaching change, etcetera Chicago Bulls.
00:01:52
I'm interested to just see what we can glean out of them because they're one of those teams that automatically is going to be in a situation entering training camp of we're trying to figure out what our rotations look like.
00:02:05
You know what we have in Patrick Williams, How are we going to flesh out the rest of our roster? What looks different for Billy Donovan, relative toe last season for this roster as well.
00:02:13
So I think that there's a lot of things that we can find out over the next 5 to 10 days.
00:02:19
But at least give you a sense of what that roster is gonna look like going to the regular season.
00:02:23
And that makes exciting because you still have some hold over pieces like Zach Lavine.
00:02:27
And you wonder, is there a new incarnation of players that we've been familiar with? You know, coming into this stage of the year? Yeah.
00:02:34
No, they're they're interesting.
00:02:36
So my my first pick is a team similarly at the bottom of the east.
00:02:40
I have the Washington Wizards, believe it or not, Um uh or actually have a tie between them and the hawks, Uh, the Wizards, because I wanted to see what John Wall looks like.
00:02:51
That's just my short answer.
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And I'm not gonna go deeper than that because the rest of roster isn't that interesting.
00:02:56
Um, and then the Hawks are interesting because they have so many pieces.
00:03:00
I want to see other depth chart looks so I want to know, like, who's coming off the bench between Bogdan? I mean, maybe they start their starters.
00:03:07
They're gonna be Trae Young, Bogdanovich, Gallinari, John Collins and I guess Clint Capela, which is like a really weird, weird starting lineup.
00:03:18
Eso maybe that's what they're doing.
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Or maybe they have one of those guys come off the bench.
00:03:22
I I would like to see Cam Reddish in the starting lineup.
00:03:25
I think he's really worth a look, and he's got serious, serious, defensive upside eso.
00:03:33
I'm just curious to see what they are.
00:03:35
I i There's just a lot going on with that team.
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There are small market team or smaller S O.
00:03:42
I think people kind of don't think about them as much, But they are one of the most feisty teams right now, like they really wanna win.
00:03:52
They really, really, really want to be in the playoffs.
00:03:55
And it's one of the low key storylines that I've been watching even more than some of like, you know, the Lakers or the Clippers.
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Like I just whatever, they just seem weird.
00:04:06
They're weird team, They're doing weird stuff.
00:04:08
I want to see what it turns into that makes him intriguing, right? Like, I have no idea what's going on over here.
00:04:14
Yeah, boy, I want to get a taste of this team, but I wanna take a look at him in that.
00:04:18
I don't think Chicago is not weird like that, right? I mean, you're just But it's still more of a curious team that you that you think about the Wizards one next ton of sense because not just John Wolf, But you're also talking about like, hey, John Wall and Bradley Beal.
00:04:30
They on paper, we know how good that could be.
00:04:34
So now that's just that relative intrigue of like, we haven't seen this in so long.
00:04:39
All of a sudden, the Wizards could be really dynamic, you know, in the Eastern Conference.
00:04:42
And to say the very least, um, second team, let's go second scene here.
00:04:49
What? You know, like I wanna I almost wanna live in some of the lower like some of the lower hanging fruit teams.
00:04:54
Just because they do become interesting, I'll actually I'll take one that lost the player gained in some guy's.
00:05:00
Obviously, the expectations are they're gonna fall down, uh, the hierarchy of the Western Conference, the Oklahoma City Thunder.
00:05:07
I think they become an exciting and interesting team.
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You bring it out.
00:05:09
Horford at the five you're talking about SG A.
00:05:12
What's his growth look like George Hill is your supplemental backup guard? I'm not saying that these guys, you know, I'm not saying it's a team that blows my socks off, but and then you have, you know, scholar behind Horford, like there's just again an interesting dynamic to think about.
00:05:29
How do they approach what the rotation is gonna look like they for so long? Even last year with CP three.
00:05:35
The Steven Adams Effect on on what that team kind of looks like specifically on the offensive end can now have a real different wrinkling without Horford for whatever state of his career he's in.
00:05:45
He's a much different player than Steven Adams at the five.
00:05:49
So you're talking about being able to stretch the printer shot a little bit.
00:05:52
Obviously, you're gonna be a little less physical, certainly, especially on the defensive end, but it does make this team look different, and I'll be really curious just to see how you start to blend those guys in And you know, it's Horford a maximum minute kind of guy or is he just a piece? So I'll take a flyer on the on the okay, see thunder and see what they're coming out at a new coach for them as well, by the way, right.
00:06:12
So you're talking about a lot of change there in that team and in the Western Conference, we know it's gonna be competitive.
00:06:17
I'll be curious.
00:06:18
How far back do they fall? Are they now? Right back where we thought that maybe we're gonna be last year and interesting back and sneaking into the playoffs kind of team.
00:06:26
Yeah, They have a lot of, like, shockingly competent, like, not even shockingly, just competent players, like just a t least.
00:06:33
Then they're starting like, yeah, just not guys that are gonna blow you away, but just, like, kind of know it they're doing, and yeah, I mean, look, like there were shooter might be lewd Dort right now, like they have.
00:06:44
It's like a team that can kind of play five out.
00:06:47
Uh, a blue door is probably gonna get left alone in the corner.
00:06:50
Maybe not in the regular season, but outside of that? Yeah, like they're pretty.
00:06:54
They're interesting, like they're probably gonna be the worst team in the West unless crazy things happen.
00:06:59
And you know, there's Kobe or injuries or anything like that, but they probably will be, and even that it's like, I think you're probably better than I mean, the Knicks e better than the catch.
00:07:09
Yeah, like they're better than the worst teams in the in the East.
00:07:15
I would say so. At least I don't know.
00:07:17
I mean, they and they, they still might win like that.
00:07:19
The pace of 1920 wins because the West is that good.
00:07:23
Well, that's what's so like.
00:07:24
You know, I know that makes it.
00:07:26
Maybe it seems like like, why talk about a team that could win 20 or so games? But this is also because there are smaller, really seen bad.
00:07:33
Yeah, like, and it's a smaller market teams.
00:07:35
So it's also that thing of like, Hey, is this where? Okay, See? Starts to fall off the cliff and and gets into obscurity, where the Hornets have lived for years and years and years, or where the now pelicans had lived for a long time, Even with Anthony Davis like this is kind of, you know, a pip sees for some of them back in a smaller market.
00:07:53
Teams that maybe it's even why I mentioned the Bulls as well, because this isn't supposed to be a small market team, even though we perceive them that way for what feels like a number of seasons, too.
00:08:01
So I do get I get intrigued by like, Hey, are you guys hanging on or are you falling off? Because then the SG a piece becomes interesting over the next couple of seasons where you go, Is he Is that a guy? Is that a guy that's gonna stay there like are they? You know, Are you gonna keep this player there? And what are you willing or trying to build around him? So I'm excited.
00:08:21
20 wins.
00:08:22
Give it to me.
00:08:23
My second team is, uh, speaking of Al Horford, a former Al Horford team.
00:08:26
It's actually fitting that we have this in the title of this stream.
00:08:30
I find the Celtics really fascinating that Kemba Walker injury is something to monitor.
00:08:36
Um, he this knee like it's this freaking me.
00:08:39
He's like, barely played this here.
00:08:41
I mean, it's you know, they had the big hiatus and he apparently got healthy and he did look healthy in the bubble.
00:08:48
And he's had more time since the bubble After they, you know, they got knocked out and he was not great.
00:08:53
Andi, I just I don't know.
00:08:56
I don't know what's going on, and I think that that's just a lot of pressure on Tatum Thio Have Kemba missing like you lose Hayward.
00:09:04
It's like, Oh, man, like his second option is Jalen Brown, which find, um, Jalen Brown still is an awesome at creating his own offense.
00:09:14
And then, like, who's the scoring option from there? Is it Marcus Sort, is it? I'm gonna shudder a little bit.
00:09:20
Is it Jeff Teague like going on here? And it's funny because, like, you look at that team last year, it's like their big thing is that God, one through four, like these guys, I mean, look, Jalen Brown might be your fourth option in in in terms of scoring pedigree or scoring pecking order.
00:09:37
Or it's it could be Gordon Hayward.
00:09:39
Whatever.
00:09:40
Now it's really the complete opposite.
00:09:42
They just feel like the team that's gonna fall to me.
00:09:45
Yeah, You know it's funny, too, and I don't say funny, but interesting when you think about Danny Ainge and the moves or not moves or what they were gonna look to do there I I do wonder about this piece with, like, extended time missed here for Kemba Walker.
00:09:58
Like, I wonder behind the scenes.
00:10:00
How hard were they trying to massage a situation where they could have kept Gordon Hayward? Not because he doesn't have his own injury concerns, but just because, hey, that's real scoring.
00:10:10
You know, you're maybe gonna lose Kemba.
00:10:11
Why? Maybe they were sniffing around trade possibilities.
00:10:13
And if they could shift off a guy they think is about the have really injury concerns again this upcoming year, like they feel like their off season was about as modeled as it could be for one of those operational teams.
00:10:26
I don't like the Bucks and you know, just some hits and misses a little bit of difficulty in the off season, but the Celtics were a theme that I just you know when when they come out of the draft and the Aussies and I just wonder about them and I wonder what Danny Ainge I wonder what he had hoped to accomplish versus what he ended up accomplishing.
00:10:45
They're interesting.
00:10:46
Well, I mean, I'll give him credit because they have that trade exception.
00:10:49
That's like 28 million or something ridiculous along those lines.
00:10:54
I wonder if they're gonna be in Boston now.
00:10:57
Even more even more problem.
00:10:58
I was thinking like I don't think it will be.
00:11:01
I mean, maybe they'll trade like a first and that and that In that trade exception, though I don't know.
00:11:06
I feel like we look this up.
00:11:07
I don't know if you compare an asset, a draft asset with a trade exception, I'm not sure, but, like, could they be the like? The Spurs have LaMarcus Aldridge and DiMarzio Rosen like, Are they the team for those guys like, it feels weird to say that.
00:11:23
But God, like I'm just really worried about the scoring.
00:11:26
It just I don't know.
00:11:29
So, yeah, like, are they? Are they gonna have somebody weird like that? Are their roster where you're like to talk to Rosen's a Celtic and they just go for it because they have to use it by the end of the year? Um, so it's like they're in a position where because they have to use it.
00:11:46
It's They clearly organized this trade the sign and trade with Gordon Hayward so they could get it.
00:11:52
Um, I just wonder how that works.
00:11:57
Well, the interesting thing to is what you want to kick around these ideas about names that could be there, right? If all of a sudden, if all of a sudden the hardened kind of sweepstakes or the Russell Westbrook sweepstakes start to get chatted about again, then then maybe you start to hear different teams that you would have thought that way, depending on where there injuries stand.
00:12:13
You mentioned the Spurs, though The only thing I'll say about them, um, is I wonder what it would take and not that this is the movie they're going to make.
00:12:21
But I wonder what it would take for them to say, like they have their guards on the roster.
00:12:24
But if you're moving to Rosa, I wonder if, from their perspective is an asset enough.
00:12:30
Is the draft asset enough to move the needle for them? Because if it waas right, so its value, its value there from at the very least, its value there, but I okay, because the thing that I wonder about and listen expiring in and of itself makes it much easier for them to make.
00:12:46
But just the idea of, like, they didn't look to do anything this offseason around those contracts around all of it, it's almost like, hey, rather than go full blown rebuild, we're gonna hang on to some older, older heads here and still be whatever the version of the Spurs that they're going to be.
00:13:02
So I just wonder is like, How do you make sure you in place a team like that? And probably as you approach the trade deadline certainly than when the spurs kind of know where they are in the Western Conference, I can say, Listen, the assets are great.
00:13:11
You could have frozen.
00:13:12
We don't have a use from the rest of the way.
00:13:14
Yeah.
00:13:15
I mean, you have those guys sitting in there, you know? LaMarcus and DeRozan really around that, like 20.
00:13:20
I don't know.
00:13:21
What what, uh, rosen is 27.
00:13:22
7 billion.
00:13:24
So he'd fit under that trade exception.
00:13:26
I don't know what LaMarcus is under.
00:13:27
I do know that he'd fit under it.
00:13:29
Um, but you have those two guys kind of sitting there and I just don't know.
00:13:34
I don't know.
00:13:35
Two guys.
00:13:36
I just I'm trying to find the team where they have these, like, weirdly, like a really good for what They are players that are just kind of sitting there and don't really fit in like the thing about the Celtics.
00:13:45
And I just kind of noticed this with their fans to over just in little whatever Twitter, Twitter interaction, stuff like that.
00:13:51
They don't like to bring in pieces that can't defend.
00:13:54
The nice part for them is that I still think they have a really nice defensive nucleus, so they can be a team that could take in a DeRozan or LaMarcus Aldridge like they have enough there that I do kind of feel like man.
00:14:07
If they really And I'm worried about the scoring, I am like it's I just don't know where it's going to come from.
00:14:12
I get that Brad Stevens is great at coaching, and he's gonna figure out ways to include everybody.
00:14:17
Um, I just I can't help but look at that roster and say God, like, I just don't know where it's going to come from night tonight like they're just gonna be certain nights where I don't know, like they're gonna be even like E.
00:14:28
Don't think there'll be a top 10 offense.
00:14:30
Maybe they will.
00:14:31
Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I don't know if depending upon Campbell looks like like, yeah, it's it's something to monitor.
00:14:37
Yeah, And in a world where when you go up against some of the better offenses, that isn't as good as the defense can be.
00:14:42
If you can't run with them at some point, you're gonna find yourself down 15 to 20 in the fourth quarter and like, yeah, what some of these nice look like for us.
00:14:49
Um, my 13 is a little more on board.
00:14:52
I think I like Chicago, but I'm living in the Western Conference here a little bit because the Denver Nuggets Yeah, team team, interesting because they didn't They didn't move the needle for me in the in the off season.
00:15:05
Um, you have some guys go out, obviously, you bring back a Millsap, you lose a Plumlee.
00:15:11
That's not neither here nor there.
00:15:12
But you also you know, you also look at this roster with Murray.
00:15:16
Um, what is the next level for Porter, Jr? Is that next level guaranteed for the evolution of his game? Because that becomes somewhat crucial.
00:15:23
You get in behind it.
00:15:24
Um, you know, listen, attracted a guy directing origin Hansen.
00:15:26
I actually think that that was a really nice pick for them, but I don't I don't know about them, you know? I don't I don't know if I look at them, because what I wanted to see from them in a lot of ways was Hey, maybe you surprised in the bubble.
00:15:40
How do you make it so that you're arguably the second best team on paper ahead of the Celtics? How do you make it? So that is the South South, the Clippers, that the clippers need to come get you and beach you to the Western Conference finals as opposed to vice versa.
00:15:55
And I think they're still in that mix of the upper echelon of the Western Conference.
00:15:57
But they're right there in that pack of team.
00:15:59
Same place they were last year.
00:16:00
We look at the standings, right? All those teams 43 44 45 wins.
00:16:04
They're on paper.
00:16:05
They're still in the same spot.
00:16:06
It's not a bad thing, but it also means that there's plenty of teams that could jump you in the West right now.
00:16:10
I would have been I really thought, that they were gonna try to make a key move to strengthen what they are.
00:16:15
I don't think they necessarily did that.
00:16:17
Yeah, no, I mean, they're They're funny.
00:16:19
It's like they're its's them.
00:16:21
The Nets are kind of like dishonestly where it's like they just don't have big wings.
00:16:24
And, um, I just don't know what that's gonna look like.
00:16:29
You know, the league is right now.
00:16:31
It's all about Big Wings.
00:16:33
And they were banking on having a guy that really, really fit in to what they were doing with Jeremy Grant.
00:16:42
And he.
00:16:45
It still is one of the weirdest MBA stories I can remember in recent memory, Um, leaves for Detroit, of all places.
00:16:53
Wants a bigger role.
00:16:55
Sees himself is a primary offensive option.
00:16:59
It's just weird.
00:17:00
I don't remember the last time somebody did that.
00:17:02
It was like Josh Smith esque or something like that.
00:17:04
Like I was like, This is crazy.
00:17:06
So I mean for him, I just I do get it for him, Like internally being like, Oh, like I'm gonna go be the man or a very important piece to this roster, as opposed to supplemental piece on with my current role on this team.
00:17:21
Now, the money was the same.
00:17:22
I still all things being equal, I'd probably go back.
00:17:25
And I say, I don't love what I'm seeing Detroit doing right now, and it seems more of a risk organizationally, right? You could point to a lot of different teams and maybe say if he landed on the Hawks.
00:17:34
You Oh, okay.
00:17:36
Like you want to be there with Trey Young and you're you got the defensive upside your the wing.
00:17:40
Like I could find a lot of spots that would feel better for him to take the same money and then feel like he has a bigger role specifically in Detroit.
00:17:46
It just seems like a high risk, relatively low reward, because I don't You're not gonna move the needle in Detroit as good as you gonna be there? Yeah.
00:17:54
I mean, it's I don't know, Like I go back and forth on this, like, part of me is just kind of like I don't know, like I don't know if I agree with that decision, whatever.
00:18:02
But then part of me is like I just again like As I said, I don't remember the last time somebody did that, and I kind of enjoy it right, Like the guy had the same amount of money to play on a championship team and he would have been 1/4 5th option, kind of no matter what.
00:18:18
That's just sort of how it's going to shake out there, especially with Will Barton coming back.
00:18:22
So I think it's cool.
00:18:24
I just and and to pick Detroit, of all places, which I mean look like if he's actually right on this and this is a home run like E don't want the last time they they've had a really cool, exciting, big wing player like that.
00:18:37
Like I I don't know.
00:18:39
I mean, the Blake Griffin thing was, I think turned out better than I expected it to turn out.
00:18:44
Even though there's been kind of one of three good seasons, Um, it's still just for me.
00:18:50
It zits intriguing.
00:18:52
I hope it happens for him.
00:18:53
And but that Yeah, footnote that one of three good seasons for Blake Griffin is going better than we thought it would like getting one of three years.
00:19:04
You're like, Oh, my God.
00:19:05
What good years He made all the b A.
00:19:09
I could not believe it when he looked as good as he did two years ago.
00:19:12
I couldn't believe it.
00:19:13
I was like, What is going on here? It's the same thing.
00:19:16
We have a Chris Paul this last year and will probably happened without Horford this year.
00:19:20
He's gonna look incredible again because for that, Presti is a boss.
00:19:25
Um, no, I mean, look like it's cool.
00:19:28
I I guess this is turning into the Pistons.
00:19:31
Almost.
00:19:32
It's like the coolest thing about the Nuggets is that they got kind of scorned like they got, they got left at the altar and it makes them interesting.
00:19:41
And it makes Jeremy Grant interesting, too.
00:19:44
Yeah, well, you know what? And by the way, like to tie it back into where we started with this and the talking about Chicago and being really technically a big market team.
00:19:50
But not having like Detroit should be a big market, you know, they should be within that conversation.
00:19:55
It's just the quality of the of the play and or lack thereof.
00:19:58
That's really pushed them down the hierarchy.
00:20:00
So, to your point, like Detroit is A is a ***y place to go play if you're good and then becomes excited to go back to the Rip.
00:20:08
Hamilton and Wallace.
00:20:09
You know Rashid and Ben like those days were really exciting and fun to watch, like those teams were great and they were gritty.
00:20:15
And that's kind of always been there theme there.
00:20:17
So if they could get back to a little bit of that kind of identity just in terms of the city like then they do become a fun watch.
00:20:22
Not on that when we talk about not unlike a team that maybe only wins 20 games in O k.
00:20:26
C.
00:20:27
But you're like, But what fun watch they.
00:20:28
I'll be really interested because on the surface, Detroit, everyone consensus just kind of been, huh? Interesting choice of moves that they've made this off.
00:20:38
So if this looks like anything other than what we think of like muddling, then it will be very exciting to watch other season unfold because then it means that they made some very unique and also smart choices.
00:20:50
Unlike what? Maybe we perceive it as I was looking up Blake Griffin's contract and wow! 33 36.
00:20:58
6 million.
00:21:02
Uh, man, that is all that money because I like I like Detroit a lot.
00:21:08
I almost would put Detroit in.
00:21:09
If, I mean, I guess the 123 of like Killian Hayes, who I I have a bad feeling about in his rookie season.
00:21:18
I just I don't think he's going to be very good in his rookie year.
00:21:21
And Jeremy Grant and Blake Griffin is like a super weird pecking order.
00:21:25
But I dio I enjoyed a lot, too. And Derrick Rose.
00:21:28
I completely forgot about him as well.
00:21:30
God, they might be one of my three team.
00:21:32
I'm like, Yeah, I'm looking like maybe there's a taste here.
00:21:35
Maybe they are you. Maybe they were.
00:21:37
Yeah, but you know what to be said.
00:21:39
They're very interesting, whether it's our interests like you, that that that Griffin Grant combo it is like, by the way, in some ways, but in some way, like if I want to think about it like it's complementary in the sense of Grant can do things well that are not inside of Griffin's wheelhouse and vice versa.
00:22:01
Like maybe you allow each of these players to quote specialize in what, in what they're best at.
00:22:07
Like if Grant just becomes offensive three and D guy on this roster, Okay, that's what's gonna happen on Griffin can just be, like any form of his, even even the like, the worst version of, like, a rim running, you know, kind of shot blocker agitator.
00:22:24
Like, if he can be that version of himself with Derrick Rose the point like it does become a little bit exciting.
00:22:29
I interesting.
00:22:30
Interesting to better word.
00:22:31
Excited.
00:22:32
I'm not the right word.
00:22:33
The more we talk about this, the more interested I get.
00:22:35
God, this is super weird.
00:22:37
What an interesting team.
00:22:38
Because, you know you have Blake Griffin there, but Blake Griffin is 31 you're probably gonna move off him.
00:22:44
So you bring in Jeremy Grant saying, Hey, like you're gonna come in and be our lead option.
00:22:49
Do you tell Blake Griffin on all MBA player.
00:22:52
Hey, guess what? You're actually gonna be second option, or you're gonna have to split your touches with Jeremy Grant, who's, um not really drivel that much in his career.
00:23:02
Like, Is that what you're gonna dio? Or is this naturally going to settle in? Because in the way that I would assume things that go normally is where Jeremy grants like the perfect counterpart Thio Blake, because of the things that he's able to dio defense playoff ball? Hey is kind of like the perfect counter to somebody like Blake Griffin, who is such a great creator and playmaker on DNA.
00:23:24
Not a great defender.
00:23:25
It'll be interesting, because on paper they're perfect for one another.
00:23:29
But this is not paper because Jeremy Grant supposed to be elite option.
00:23:33
It gets interesting.
00:23:35
Well, there's a couple of things.
00:23:36
One.
00:23:37
I think this Sadiq Bay pick up for them is nice.
00:23:39
If you wanna have a young player on the on the on the team, that could do defensive things first for you, so you could supplement some of what you're doing with these guys.
00:23:46
And then your point, though I think you have this season and maybe you, uh, the weird thing is, I wonder if there's any internal conversation.
00:23:53
Griffin's on the source of what you say.
00:23:54
Hey, we're going to get Grant, and the intention is for him toe to be a main option here for this roster.
00:24:01
What we need to trust is allow that to unfold early in the season and just let's just see what it looks like for you and how you end up still getting your looks, maybe in different weight, based on what rank can do out in the woods offensively, if you get.
00:24:15
If you get driven by into that, then you probably get some goodwill earlier to see you see how it unfolds.
00:24:20
If it isn't working, then great.
00:24:22
Listen, Worst case Blake.
00:24:23
We will end up trying to move you, and you'll have an opportunity to probably go to a contender, etcetera, etcetera.
00:24:28
If someone's take on that big contract.
00:24:29
So like, I think there's easy ways to maneuver around that.
00:24:31
But if if the relationship ends up working, well, then maybe Blake just say, Okay, I'm still gonna get my looks.
00:24:37
It's gonna be different than what I've been used. Thio.
00:24:40
But listen, he's been on, you know, he had a good run with the Clippers, and things didn't work out there.
00:24:45
In terms of the ultimate goal.
00:24:46
He's been a forgot man around the league like there's a world where this is good for him as well, because it just it rehabilitates.
00:24:53
What the perception is a guy who was all MBA like and he still is looked at.
00:24:57
Is this, like for gotten piece with a bloated contract that you would throw in T back assets just to dump that number? So maybe it's good for him as well, in some ways, if they can, if they can find a way to make that relationship work.
00:25:08
I even like the Derrick Rose even kind of like Derrick Rose on this team.
00:25:13
Yeah, it's not God.
00:25:18
This is interesting.
00:25:19
I wonder if they're gonna be a little more competent than people realize.
00:25:21
Because even like, look, they overpaid Plumlee.
00:25:24
Yes, totally.
00:25:25
He's not bad.
00:25:26
It's not like he's, like, abysmal.
00:25:28
I think that, like the pendulum swung too far.
00:25:32
Andi is a great locker room guy, like based on everything that, like the Denver guys talk about, um, you know, they it sounds like he's just, like, awesome for chemistry.
00:25:43
So I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs, because again, like, I guess that would have to mean they were keeping, you know, Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin, which they might I'd assume they would probably try to move Derrick Rose of the deadline.
00:25:56
But hey, you never know.
00:25:57
Um, but that's not a terrible roster.
00:26:02
Like, Do I like Atlanta better? Probably.
00:26:05
Could I see Atlanta blowing up spectacularly and and having literally zero literally zero defense it all? Yes, I could totally see that.
00:26:13
The Wizards.
00:26:14
I mean, John Wall.
00:26:17
Last time John well played, I might have been in high school like I don't e alright, aging John Wall and also aging me because I'm like, Oh, no, I remember I was strongly through college watching, watching him playing a fresh out of college.
00:26:35
All right, Like so this is that tells you how long it's been.
00:26:37
Alright, Eso It's like you never know now.
00:26:43
So you mentioned to you mentioned Atlanta.
00:26:44
You mentioned Washington to think about the idea of at the back end the Eastern Conference, where his playoff spot clearly very much open in the eighth seed.
00:26:53
At the very least, you're talking about a number of teams that could both be vying for it, or also flaming out tragically and they're all in all teams.
00:27:01
You maybe would put on the friendly.
00:27:03
If everything goes right for Detroit, they could at least be in the car.
00:27:05
By the way, we all know we're talking about the Western Conference and the difficulty for these teams.
00:27:09
Remember the A C was the Orlando Magic who want when, 33 40 in a shortened season.
00:27:13
So it's not like the bar is set at.
00:27:15
You need to be a 45 win team to make the playoffs in the East.
00:27:18
The the Where were the Detroit Pistons, who won 20 games? Listen, you gotta get the 30 and your quote in the conversation for the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference, so and 20 wins in a shortened season again.
00:27:30
So maybe they're closer to being closer to 25 than 20 in terms of wins.
00:27:34
Although this will be another 72 game season as well, it doesn't take a lot to move the needle.
00:27:38
So all these teams could be like riding high early and then just have disaster disaster. Things happen.
00:27:44
I think the biggest concern for Detroit is probably health to saying if we want to run this thing with Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin.
00:27:50
And maybe you see what it looks like the trade deadline.
00:27:52
You need both these guys to stay healthy, to be able to do whatever you want to dio.
00:27:57
If you have Derrick Rose, go down with an injury, Blake Griffin catches on and you're just trudging through a bad season because I think you have to be getting things back in return for these players.
00:28:06
Assets, Yes, but you still need warm bodies to be out of the court if you lose either one of them to injury.
00:28:11
At any point over the start of this season, you're staring into the barrel of a really ugly looking lost er.
00:28:16
If it's Senator Jeremy Grant as the number one like that, that's a that's a powder cake there for Detroit.
00:28:21
That's why I think again on paper, we all go.
00:28:25
Okay, let's see what happens next year, but and I wouldn't be surprised again.
00:28:29
I said this before.
00:28:30
I know I sometimes get get Brooklyn Nets centric.
00:28:33
There are three team trade options out there where Derrick Rose ends up somewhere else and you get a Spencer Dinwiddie to Detroit, and then you look at maybe assets for Brooklyn or whatever the case may be like.
00:28:44
There's low level moves like that for from Brooklyn standpoint, but that for from a piston standpoint, if you could take out right now, I'll tell you right now on paper, if you could take out Derrick Rose and put in Spencer Dinwiddie, Detroit would do that in a heartbeat.
00:28:56
Not just from a numbers standpoint, but just from, you know, age and the pure offensive play of other Spencer Dinwiddie who, like you know, he can take over scoring for you the length of a game.
00:29:05
If you could call something like that in any spectrum like that, I think the Detroit would be excited to do that at any point earlier this season, even leading up to the deadline.
00:29:14
Yeah, what's called Detroit are 2.5.
00:29:16
Let's move on to our number three.
00:29:18
That was the 2.5.
00:29:20
What is this? What's your hurry of Houston? It's not because it's not because of Harden being like I want out.
00:29:30
I actually think there's a chance he kind of likes playing with them.
00:29:33
I like Silas, Silas, Stephen Silas that how you say is last time.
00:29:36
I hope I'm saying that, right? Uh, I believe so. Yes.
00:29:39
Um, yeah, he's emphasized motion, offensive lot.
00:29:42
He's He's obviously worked with Carlisle, which is always a good thing on Dakar Lyles.
00:29:48
Very creative with his offensive sets.
00:29:50
I mean, look at they literally set the record for offensive efficiency last year.
00:29:55
Andi.
00:29:56
Yes, a lot of that is due to Luca, but by the way, Luca is really similar to James Harden.
00:30:02
And I could just see that happening.
00:30:04
You're adding Christian Wooden, who is, I think, a legit third option.
00:30:08
Like a legit third option he might be.
00:30:11
I think he's gonna balance out Westbrook, especially really.
00:30:14
Well, you're gonna have him kind of as a lob catching spacing, pick and pop option next toe.
00:30:21
Westbrook, which is really exactly what he needs on bit's gonna be like it's gonna be of Steve.
00:30:26
Even Adams could shoot threes.
00:30:27
I mean, he's gonna absolutely love it hard, and I think there's a chance he really likes playing with him, and I could see him in boogie.
00:30:33
Getting along too.
00:30:34
Like that just seems like a weird pairing that those two guys totally clicking and always.
00:30:39
They're kind of fun.
00:30:41
I like the roster.
00:30:43
I I you know, Stone.
00:30:45
I wasn't sure at first that first week I was like, Boy, I don't know about that Covington Trade and I get it.
00:30:51
He's got a lot of pressure from ownership to just, like, get rid of pieces at all costs and get under the tax.
00:30:56
But given what they've done and bringing in wood and bringing, you know, throwing a flyer at Boogie because, by the way, I can't think of a better their team than them to do that.
00:31:05
Like, honestly, if this doesn't work, whatever you're worried about Westbrook and hard and leaving anyways, so why not just say you don't screw it? Let's just do it.
00:31:14
Whatever.
00:31:15
E like it.
00:31:16
Yeah, I know you're right, though, and I like them for all the reasons beyond hardener beyond Westbrook, like in a lot of ways, everything they've done around them say to, um the Boogie Cousins piece is obviously crucial.
00:31:27
Come back and be any form of himself.
00:31:29
Then that becomes very intriguing.
00:31:31
If you could buy him and Woods and throw in a 35 year old P.
00:31:35
J.
00:31:36
Tucker who they used all over all over the physical back last year in terms of throwing them at the five.
00:31:41
Like if you can allow him to go back to a traditional four ish kind of role for you, like all of a sudden before five rotation comes really different than it was these years past.
00:31:52
Like that's I'm most intrigued around.
00:31:54
I will say from the heart and peace, is he like he's consistently said it, and you could take it for whatever it's worth that Hey, listen, like I've been offensively the way I've been because that's what the system kind of dictates for us under Dantonio.
00:32:08
There's a lot of great things that D'Antoni did but the collection of talent around you, right? Like now maybe it does look a little bit different for him.
00:32:15
If Boogie is healthy and he's on the floor, well, he's a legitimate scoring option for you.
00:32:20
So is Christian, would.
00:32:21
So is Russell Westbrook, like, I think, sometimes and you know, we've talked about so many different times about young players and how they develop and what mentality you instill into them, even if it's not from all the way from going back to O. K. C. Days.
00:32:32
At some point, Harden has developed a mentality of like I'm the only guy that score.
00:32:36
Why? Because he's been on teams where he's been the only guy who can score in Houston.
00:32:39
If you let him see that there's a lot happening there around him.
00:32:44
I I think that you can open up to those ideas, and I know you could say, Well, Westbrook was there last year.
00:32:48
But listen, that roster again, Tucker at the five like that was like smoking mirrors.
00:32:53
Just trying to get through this thing and make it look like there's something here that you can really hang your hat on the play offs and it couldn't like that wasn't something that was gonna be sustainable for them.
00:33:02
So, yeah, they become really intriguing for very different, very different reasons that I would've pointed Thio when we were come with that.
00:33:09
And by the way, just for the cab, uh, fans.
00:33:11
Kenyon Martin son is on the roster.
00:33:14
Kenyon Martin Jr drafted, uh, to the to the Houston Rockets.
00:33:17
Just if you're if you're a Nets fan, it's a little Oh my God, those guys.
00:33:20
So no, but yeah, they intrigue me.
00:33:22
And that's why I think that maybe one of the one of the one of the couples that were pointing to of, Hey, upper echelon teams that has some inch freak around them because then where did where would you put them? If this team stays together and then they can marinate a little bit, like, where are they in your Western Conference hierarchy? I know we ran down these the other day, but if this is the team and they all stay together and let's say let's say also Boogie is healthy, I have to at least put them in a mix at 55 and above, right.
00:33:50
Like I I God, they might be like my there in the mix with, like, Portland for that three seed.
00:33:55
I just I like that roster.
00:33:57
I might be too low on Dallas, but I'm really worried about the injury thing.
00:34:01
And then the sun's.
00:34:02
It's like the sun's, the Jazz, the Nuggets.
00:34:05
I don't know.
00:34:06
It's still a pretty balanced roster, even even after losing Covington for basically nothing like they, they're pretty balanced.
00:34:14
You make up quite a bit of ground Christian would and guys I do just the tip of the hat to Portland because they are.
00:34:19
They are interesting and it's for all like the little subtle moves they made.
00:34:22
But I say I am really excited to watch a Portland team that still is Dame Lillard and C.
00:34:31
J.
00:34:32
McCollum.
00:34:33
The guys that have been there and now you have with with Carmelo Anthony and all the other pieces, you have anarchy and everybody else.
00:34:37
But I'm excited to see like this team being an Upper Western Conference, even if it's for the regular season.
00:34:43
I don't know what's gonna happen to play House, but I would like to see them be a dominant team during the course of the season because it feels like that's what what Dame Lillard is deserving of.
00:34:54
And he hasn't got the opportunity to be like they should be talking about the Denver Nuggets earlier.
00:34:58
Like have they done enough? I wanted them to be pushing the Clippers if they're gonna kind of muddle around the four or whatever, like seeing Portland Cata pulled up there and say, Okay, clippers like your defensive based team and you've got the fire.
00:35:10
Let's see what we look like during the regular season matchups because maybe health and everything else considered they could be a very dangerous team out there as well.
00:35:18
And they also like they're not.
00:35:19
They're bringing in a couple of guys, but, like Covington's gonna fit in right away because coming to always fits in right away on its, like Harry Giles.
00:35:26
Okay, that's fine.
00:35:27
Like even like That's not gonna be a needle mover like they've improved their roster without adding any major major pieces, which I think for them, like S o many of these rosters in the West, or like, very new.
00:35:38
Like the Sun's very new.
00:35:40
The Mavericks are honestly, really, really know, like there.
00:35:42
This is a different identity for that team.
00:35:44
Um, you know, even the Rockets who I like like they have to bring in Christian would, And I don't know what that's gonna look like.
00:35:50
A bookie is well, like Hell wants his touches.
00:35:53
We'll see if he's, you know, good enough anymore to deserve those touches.
00:35:57
But they just It's a lot of teams that have new pieces and and and I think for them like that's a big advantage, they know exactly who they are.
00:36:06
It's gonna be Nurkic and C.
00:36:08
J.
00:36:09
McCollum and Dame Lillard.
00:36:10
But there's much better support around those guys, and I just I don't know.
00:36:14
I like that a lot for them.
00:36:15
And actually, that gives the Nuggets and the Jazz the leg up.
00:36:17
A swell, Yeah, familiarity.
00:36:20
Just feeling like you know what? That's what I mean, that's what because, especially out West, it becomes more interesting.
00:36:25
Um, say that in the Eastern Conference with some teams were just like, Oh, some teams made a very specific decision to stay true to what we have and try it again while other teams really, Oddly enough, it's like the Lakers really made some of the biggest quote unquote kind of moves to how they're constructed coming off of winning a championship, you know, so that it will be done Unless, in the 1st 1st 20 games, man, 1st 20 games of this MBA season are going to be like, Oh, okay, shuffle the deck here like I'll whatever list we came up with Western and Eastern Conference and how we look at these teams like give me 15, 20 games and I'm gonna go, Oh, God, I was so I was so far Off around team extra team line.
00:37:06
Yeah, it will be interesting.
00:37:07
It'll be interesting.
00:37:08
Um e a lot.
00:37:10
A lot could happen in the first couple weeks and then the cove in factor to, like, who? Just who knows it? Z well, going by the way, can you know, quick little teaser, maybe for Thursday is the impact of of teams that have these rocks because coming into the this first week of training camp, it's, you know, they're limited to N B.
00:37:27
A.
00:37:28
Teams are limited to four players and four coaches at a time in the facility, So you're not gonna get full runs here just initially in terms of getting guys in the camp.
00:37:34
So heading into the regular season, when you think about that, too, the deeper teams that have legitimate second units can also lean on those.
00:37:43
In a way, when you talk about losing players for a handful of games here and there and say, Hey, we can still get by, especially against weaker competition and either one of these conferences and still grab a handful of winds early in the year when some other rosters, they're gonna say if we don't have our guys.
00:37:57
It's running out the B or C squad and just living with taking some lumps early in the year.
00:38:02
Yeah, I could see the basketball being really bad to start if you want me to be honest, like all that stuff where they were like, Wow, we should not have travel.
00:38:10
And wow, we should, like, let guys rest there just like, No, actually, we were not doing that this weird season.
00:38:15
So, uh, yeah, which I mean sucks like I do wonder how that's gonna affect the basketball after having like they are taking any.
00:38:25
Q.
00:38:26
Sorry to jump in.
00:38:27
But they're taking any from the NFL's attitude as they move to Cedar.
00:38:29
Like if you got warm, bodies were playing the games.
00:38:32
It's a T least for some stretch of the season.
00:38:34
We're all gonna go.
00:38:36
Oh my God, can we not have to? You know, watch this, But you know, we'll see how it plays out.
00:38:41
And hopefully again.
00:38:42
It's It's different than NFL.
00:38:43
Less players, less body.
00:38:45
Let's everything you know.
00:38:46
So for the n B A just kind of pulls from the threat of the bubble and continues to look strong as they start way, We'll see. We'll see.
00:38:53
I I don't feel is I don't feel is, um I don't know.
00:38:58
I don't feel as great about the I mean, I didn't feel great about the bubble plan either.
00:39:04
So maybe that's different, but I just don't know.
00:39:05
Like what the protocol is.
00:39:07
I know they just had the 134 pamphlet come out 134 page pamphlet come out.
00:39:13
Which I did not take a look at.
00:39:14
So that's my fault.
00:39:15
What you can do that this weekend, Uh, one don't get co vid. Thanks. So yeah.
00:39:23
Yeah, that's that's pretty much it.
00:39:25
Um Did you do your number three? You did right.
00:39:29
Yeah, I had us.
00:39:30
So we I did Chicago.
00:39:32
I did.
00:39:33
Okay, See? And I did the nuggets.
00:39:34
Those are my three teams that may be keeping an eye on, and yeah, I think that probably listen, by the way, we could probably go back on Thursday and and think about other, you know, other other teams that are intriguing, maybe for the wrong reasons.
00:39:46
Right? Team, maybe go in a in a bad direction.
00:39:49
Enough because I feel like for the most part, these air positive potential stories.
00:39:53
Um, but maybe maybe it's gonna be a full Thursday about Detroit where we just go with and this is a deep change, but it would you go looking hard around the well, we're gonna Yeah.
00:40:03
Two hours of Detroit Pistons basketball.
00:40:05
Get ready for it on Thursday, my friend.
00:40:07
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you get going. Same for me.
00:40:10
It's gonna be a very busy week, I think, for the both of us.
00:40:13
Um, what do you got coming out? No, listen, it's media week.
00:40:17
So obviously what? We would dive into that on the next podcast and then over here, For what it's worth, we got Nets on SportsCastr.
00:40:24
You'll start to see some It's pop up, be covering the preseason games when they do those for the 13th in the 18th.
00:40:29
So keep an eye on that channel that's been relatively quiet in this off season.
00:40:33
Will start to ramp it back up, and hopefully, as those come out, we'll start to bring in some guests for, like, little live look ins during during the game as the season ramps up.
00:40:41
That's my That's my big news friends.
00:40:43
Matt, are you covering things Do you have writing to do? I got writing to Dio.
00:40:50
Yeah, it's gonna be a busy week of writing.
00:40:52
I have writing and then I have two shows this week.
00:40:54
I have a Raptor show tonight at 7.
00:40:57
30 which you can watch here.
00:40:59
In fact, go ahead and do that.
00:41:01
And then Thursday I'm talking Minnesota Timberwolves, which I'm excited for.
00:41:04
People don't know.
00:41:05
Um, I grew up a fan of the Timberwolves, so that's a That's a big one for me.
00:41:08
I'm excited.
00:41:09
That's your That's your low key hustle. Minnesota Timberwolves like you want.
00:41:11
You want to see something happening up there? I'm excited.
00:41:13
So s Oh, yeah, I'm doing that on Thursday.
00:41:16
Probably same time like 7.
00:41:17
30 ish, maybe eight.
00:41:19
Kind of locking that in andan.
00:41:21
Otherwise, I've been working on a video for my YouTube channel this week.
00:41:27
Um, which I have gotten a lot more done than I thought I would in one day.
00:41:30
I mean it Zweiri on the finish line.
00:41:32
I just need toe make it sound good.
00:41:34
So that's where we're at right now.
00:41:37
It's all on the Kyrie Irving Kevin Durant, pick and roll.
00:41:40
I talk about the propensity of that, how good that could be, as well as different play types that they can run.
00:41:46
I'm excited for it.
00:41:48
I you know, I mean people that, you know, I don't know how many people have read me on this website.
00:41:54
I don't really know.
00:41:55
Maybe you've gone on the Internet and read my stuff.
00:41:58
But if you don't already know, the stuff that I'm not doing, what I'm streaming here is mostly film based writing.
00:42:03
So I'm taking that and applying that to actual video because I know a lot of people.
00:42:08
Let's be honest.
00:42:09
Some people don't like read it.
00:42:10
They want to just watch a video, and that's how they like to consume content.
00:42:13
So for me, I want to provide that.
00:42:16
So that's that's what I'm That's what I'm doing.
00:42:18
My first film video, it's It's been Actually, it's been a blast to Dio read the work of Matt Brooks and then, yeah, let's take all that energy.
00:42:27
There's not too much overlap like you're not gonna be you're not gonna be reading.
00:42:30
My stuff will be like, Well, that was in the video, like I try to like space it out you know, there will be, like a scatter to that.
00:42:35
It's gonna be in the same thing.
00:42:37
No. What about just whatever.
00:42:38
If you're not doing it like the written content phenomenal from Brooks to begin with, I assume whatever we see on the video is gonna be the same type of quality.
00:42:46
I mean, it's good stuff.
00:42:47
It's the kind of stuff that is Doug Nor.
00:42:48
And I always say, you know, thank god for Matt Brooks, because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it.
00:42:54
I'm not going to get in the room the way you need to if you want to be doing it and doing it Well, yeah.
00:42:59
I mean, I'm putting myself, you know, I'm at the risk of getting, you know, verbally undressed by someone.
00:43:05
If I If I do something wrong Film is, uh when you get something wrong in film, it's never fun.
00:43:11
So we'll see.
00:43:12
We'll see if I get it.
00:43:13
All right. It'll be great.
00:43:16
Everyone, everyone's gonna love it.
00:43:17
Definitely eso That's all I got.
00:43:19
So it's it's gonna be a busy week.
00:43:20
It'll be fun, though.
00:43:21
We'll be.
00:43:22
We'll be doing this in the mornings.
00:43:23
It's a good way toe.
00:43:24
Get everybody started and ready for what's gonna be an exciting week.
00:43:29
Hashtag at CNN ba right, It's on here for it at that Brooks at Adam are brick to the thing and everybody enjoy your Tuesday.
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Celtics star Kemba Walker out until at least January due to ongoing knee issues

Boston Celtics All-Star point guard Kemba Walker recently received a stem cell injection in his left knee and will miss the start of the 2020-21 season after being put on a 12-week strengthening program, according to the team. Walker is projected to return to on-court activities in early December and will await further updates regarding […]

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00:00:06
All right, everybody, welcome back to SportsCastr News A New Week New news Back again Matt Brooks. Adam Are Brick.
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Adam.
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How you doing today? On this lovely Tuesday morning? It's a beauty to beauty The rain is gone, the sun shines out and and we're officially in I know it feels like we've been there.
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It's officially marks the start of the N B A.
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Off season.
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Yeah, we are.
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Well, we're in it like we have training camps starting today.
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Um, you'll probably if you're on NBA Twitter, you'll be seeing quotes and stuff like that coming out from your respective teams.
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So it's It's exciting.
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Um, it's a little bit weird.
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I know they're doing individual workouts to start, and then it sort of moving into more team based workouts.
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So, um, it'll be it'll be pretty individual this week.
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We'll be hearing stuff from individual players what they're working on this season, you know, it's gonna it's gonna work kind of like a media a media day with with less, uh, less one on one moments.
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I think it'll it'll be cool, though I think it'll be a fun.
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We, um, I personally think there's like So our plan today is to go through three teams that are the most interesting to us each for training camp.
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And I think there's a lot of different ways you can go with this.
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So rather than me just sitting here blabbering and talking on and on and on, I wanna hear what your first pick is.
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Yeah, so, like you said, there's going to these training camps.
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We know that some teams have made big moves, and maybe it's a little bit flashier from the draft or in through free agency that you think automatically they're gonna be exciting or interesting.
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But I think there's some lower level ones that maybe have a little bit of legs, and it could be fun to keep it on.
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I'll go with I'll go with one that further on my list, but that I've mentioned before.
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Coaching change, etcetera Chicago Bulls.
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I'm interested to just see what we can glean out of them because they're one of those teams that automatically is going to be in a situation entering training camp of we're trying to figure out what our rotations look like.
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You know what we have in Patrick Williams, How are we going to flesh out the rest of our roster? What looks different for Billy Donovan, relative toe last season for this roster as well.
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So I think that there's a lot of things that we can find out over the next 5 to 10 days.
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But at least give you a sense of what that roster is gonna look like going to the regular season.
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And that makes exciting because you still have some hold over pieces like Zach Lavine.
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And you wonder, is there a new incarnation of players that we've been familiar with? You know, coming into this stage of the year? Yeah.
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No, they're they're interesting.
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So my my first pick is a team similarly at the bottom of the east.
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I have the Washington Wizards, believe it or not, Um uh or actually have a tie between them and the hawks, Uh, the Wizards, because I wanted to see what John Wall looks like.
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That's just my short answer.
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And I'm not gonna go deeper than that because the rest of roster isn't that interesting.
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Um, and then the Hawks are interesting because they have so many pieces.
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I want to see other depth chart looks so I want to know, like, who's coming off the bench between Bogdan? I mean, maybe they start their starters.
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They're gonna be Trae Young, Bogdanovich, Gallinari, John Collins and I guess Clint Capela, which is like a really weird, weird starting lineup.
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Eso maybe that's what they're doing.
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Or maybe they have one of those guys come off the bench.
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I I would like to see Cam Reddish in the starting lineup.
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I think he's really worth a look, and he's got serious, serious, defensive upside eso.
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I'm just curious to see what they are.
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I i There's just a lot going on with that team.
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There are small market team or smaller S O.
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I think people kind of don't think about them as much, But they are one of the most feisty teams right now, like they really wanna win.
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They really, really, really want to be in the playoffs.
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And it's one of the low key storylines that I've been watching even more than some of like, you know, the Lakers or the Clippers.
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Like I just whatever, they just seem weird.
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They're weird team, They're doing weird stuff.
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I want to see what it turns into that makes him intriguing, right? Like, I have no idea what's going on over here.
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Yeah, boy, I want to get a taste of this team, but I wanna take a look at him in that.
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I don't think Chicago is not weird like that, right? I mean, you're just But it's still more of a curious team that you that you think about the Wizards one next ton of sense because not just John Wolf, But you're also talking about like, hey, John Wall and Bradley Beal.
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They on paper, we know how good that could be.
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So now that's just that relative intrigue of like, we haven't seen this in so long.
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All of a sudden, the Wizards could be really dynamic, you know, in the Eastern Conference.
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And to say the very least, um, second team, let's go second scene here.
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What? You know, like I wanna I almost wanna live in some of the lower like some of the lower hanging fruit teams.
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Just because they do become interesting, I'll actually I'll take one that lost the player gained in some guy's.
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Obviously, the expectations are they're gonna fall down, uh, the hierarchy of the Western Conference, the Oklahoma City Thunder.
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I think they become an exciting and interesting team.
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You bring it out.
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Horford at the five you're talking about SG A.
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What's his growth look like George Hill is your supplemental backup guard? I'm not saying that these guys, you know, I'm not saying it's a team that blows my socks off, but and then you have, you know, scholar behind Horford, like there's just again an interesting dynamic to think about.
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How do they approach what the rotation is gonna look like they for so long? Even last year with CP three.
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The Steven Adams Effect on on what that team kind of looks like specifically on the offensive end can now have a real different wrinkling without Horford for whatever state of his career he's in.
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He's a much different player than Steven Adams at the five.
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So you're talking about being able to stretch the printer shot a little bit.
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Obviously, you're gonna be a little less physical, certainly, especially on the defensive end, but it does make this team look different, and I'll be really curious just to see how you start to blend those guys in And you know, it's Horford a maximum minute kind of guy or is he just a piece? So I'll take a flyer on the on the okay, see thunder and see what they're coming out at a new coach for them as well, by the way, right.
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So you're talking about a lot of change there in that team and in the Western Conference, we know it's gonna be competitive.
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I'll be curious.
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How far back do they fall? Are they now? Right back where we thought that maybe we're gonna be last year and interesting back and sneaking into the playoffs kind of team.
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Yeah, They have a lot of, like, shockingly competent, like, not even shockingly, just competent players, like just a t least.
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Then they're starting like, yeah, just not guys that are gonna blow you away, but just, like, kind of know it they're doing, and yeah, I mean, look, like there were shooter might be lewd Dort right now, like they have.
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It's like a team that can kind of play five out.
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Uh, a blue door is probably gonna get left alone in the corner.
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Maybe not in the regular season, but outside of that? Yeah, like they're pretty.
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They're interesting, like they're probably gonna be the worst team in the West unless crazy things happen.
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And you know, there's Kobe or injuries or anything like that, but they probably will be, and even that it's like, I think you're probably better than I mean, the Knicks e better than the catch.
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Yeah, like they're better than the worst teams in the in the East.
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I would say so. At least I don't know.
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I mean, they and they, they still might win like that.
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The pace of 1920 wins because the West is that good.
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Well, that's what's so like.
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You know, I know that makes it.
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Maybe it seems like like, why talk about a team that could win 20 or so games? But this is also because there are smaller, really seen bad.
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Yeah, like, and it's a smaller market teams.
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So it's also that thing of like, Hey, is this where? Okay, See? Starts to fall off the cliff and and gets into obscurity, where the Hornets have lived for years and years and years, or where the now pelicans had lived for a long time, Even with Anthony Davis like this is kind of, you know, a pip sees for some of them back in a smaller market.
00:07:53
Teams that maybe it's even why I mentioned the Bulls as well, because this isn't supposed to be a small market team, even though we perceive them that way for what feels like a number of seasons, too.
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So I do get I get intrigued by like, Hey, are you guys hanging on or are you falling off? Because then the SG a piece becomes interesting over the next couple of seasons where you go, Is he Is that a guy? Is that a guy that's gonna stay there like are they? You know, Are you gonna keep this player there? And what are you willing or trying to build around him? So I'm excited.
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20 wins.
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Give it to me.
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My second team is, uh, speaking of Al Horford, a former Al Horford team.
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It's actually fitting that we have this in the title of this stream.
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I find the Celtics really fascinating that Kemba Walker injury is something to monitor.
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Um, he this knee like it's this freaking me.
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He's like, barely played this here.
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I mean, it's you know, they had the big hiatus and he apparently got healthy and he did look healthy in the bubble.
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And he's had more time since the bubble After they, you know, they got knocked out and he was not great.
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Andi, I just I don't know.
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I don't know what's going on, and I think that that's just a lot of pressure on Tatum Thio Have Kemba missing like you lose Hayward.
00:09:04
It's like, Oh, man, like his second option is Jalen Brown, which find, um, Jalen Brown still is an awesome at creating his own offense.
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And then, like, who's the scoring option from there? Is it Marcus Sort, is it? I'm gonna shudder a little bit.
00:09:20
Is it Jeff Teague like going on here? And it's funny because, like, you look at that team last year, it's like their big thing is that God, one through four, like these guys, I mean, look, Jalen Brown might be your fourth option in in in terms of scoring pedigree or scoring pecking order.
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Or it's it could be Gordon Hayward.
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Whatever.
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Now it's really the complete opposite.
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They just feel like the team that's gonna fall to me.
00:09:45
Yeah, You know it's funny, too, and I don't say funny, but interesting when you think about Danny Ainge and the moves or not moves or what they were gonna look to do there I I do wonder about this piece with, like, extended time missed here for Kemba Walker.
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Like, I wonder behind the scenes.
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How hard were they trying to massage a situation where they could have kept Gordon Hayward? Not because he doesn't have his own injury concerns, but just because, hey, that's real scoring.
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You know, you're maybe gonna lose Kemba.
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Why? Maybe they were sniffing around trade possibilities.
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And if they could shift off a guy they think is about the have really injury concerns again this upcoming year, like they feel like their off season was about as modeled as it could be for one of those operational teams.
00:10:26
I don't like the Bucks and you know, just some hits and misses a little bit of difficulty in the off season, but the Celtics were a theme that I just you know when when they come out of the draft and the Aussies and I just wonder about them and I wonder what Danny Ainge I wonder what he had hoped to accomplish versus what he ended up accomplishing.
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They're interesting.
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Well, I mean, I'll give him credit because they have that trade exception.
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That's like 28 million or something ridiculous along those lines.
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I wonder if they're gonna be in Boston now.
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Even more even more problem.
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I was thinking like I don't think it will be.
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I mean, maybe they'll trade like a first and that and that In that trade exception, though I don't know.
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I feel like we look this up.
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I don't know if you compare an asset, a draft asset with a trade exception, I'm not sure, but, like, could they be the like? The Spurs have LaMarcus Aldridge and DiMarzio Rosen like, Are they the team for those guys like, it feels weird to say that.
00:11:23
But God, like I'm just really worried about the scoring.
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It just I don't know.
00:11:29
So, yeah, like, are they? Are they gonna have somebody weird like that? Are their roster where you're like to talk to Rosen's a Celtic and they just go for it because they have to use it by the end of the year? Um, so it's like they're in a position where because they have to use it.
00:11:46
It's They clearly organized this trade the sign and trade with Gordon Hayward so they could get it.
00:11:52
Um, I just wonder how that works.
00:11:57
Well, the interesting thing to is what you want to kick around these ideas about names that could be there, right? If all of a sudden, if all of a sudden the hardened kind of sweepstakes or the Russell Westbrook sweepstakes start to get chatted about again, then then maybe you start to hear different teams that you would have thought that way, depending on where there injuries stand.
00:12:13
You mentioned the Spurs, though The only thing I'll say about them, um, is I wonder what it would take and not that this is the movie they're going to make.
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But I wonder what it would take for them to say, like they have their guards on the roster.
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But if you're moving to Rosa, I wonder if, from their perspective is an asset enough.
00:12:30
Is the draft asset enough to move the needle for them? Because if it waas right, so its value, its value there from at the very least, its value there, but I okay, because the thing that I wonder about and listen expiring in and of itself makes it much easier for them to make.
00:12:46
But just the idea of, like, they didn't look to do anything this offseason around those contracts around all of it, it's almost like, hey, rather than go full blown rebuild, we're gonna hang on to some older, older heads here and still be whatever the version of the Spurs that they're going to be.
00:13:02
So I just wonder is like, How do you make sure you in place a team like that? And probably as you approach the trade deadline certainly than when the spurs kind of know where they are in the Western Conference, I can say, Listen, the assets are great.
00:13:11
You could have frozen.
00:13:12
We don't have a use from the rest of the way.
00:13:14
Yeah.
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I mean, you have those guys sitting in there, you know? LaMarcus and DeRozan really around that, like 20.
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I don't know.
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What what, uh, rosen is 27.
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7 billion.
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So he'd fit under that trade exception.
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I don't know what LaMarcus is under.
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I do know that he'd fit under it.
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Um, but you have those two guys kind of sitting there and I just don't know.
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I don't know.
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Two guys.
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I just I'm trying to find the team where they have these, like, weirdly, like a really good for what They are players that are just kind of sitting there and don't really fit in like the thing about the Celtics.
00:13:45
And I just kind of noticed this with their fans to over just in little whatever Twitter, Twitter interaction, stuff like that.
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They don't like to bring in pieces that can't defend.
00:13:54
The nice part for them is that I still think they have a really nice defensive nucleus, so they can be a team that could take in a DeRozan or LaMarcus Aldridge like they have enough there that I do kind of feel like man.
00:14:07
If they really And I'm worried about the scoring, I am like it's I just don't know where it's going to come from.
00:14:12
I get that Brad Stevens is great at coaching, and he's gonna figure out ways to include everybody.
00:14:17
Um, I just I can't help but look at that roster and say God, like, I just don't know where it's going to come from night tonight like they're just gonna be certain nights where I don't know, like they're gonna be even like E.
00:14:28
Don't think there'll be a top 10 offense.
00:14:30
Maybe they will.
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Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I don't know if depending upon Campbell looks like like, yeah, it's it's something to monitor.
00:14:37
Yeah, And in a world where when you go up against some of the better offenses, that isn't as good as the defense can be.
00:14:42
If you can't run with them at some point, you're gonna find yourself down 15 to 20 in the fourth quarter and like, yeah, what some of these nice look like for us.
00:14:49
Um, my 13 is a little more on board.
00:14:52
I think I like Chicago, but I'm living in the Western Conference here a little bit because the Denver Nuggets Yeah, team team, interesting because they didn't They didn't move the needle for me in the in the off season.
00:15:05
Um, you have some guys go out, obviously, you bring back a Millsap, you lose a Plumlee.
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That's not neither here nor there.
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But you also you know, you also look at this roster with Murray.
00:15:16
Um, what is the next level for Porter, Jr? Is that next level guaranteed for the evolution of his game? Because that becomes somewhat crucial.
00:15:23
You get in behind it.
00:15:24
Um, you know, listen, attracted a guy directing origin Hansen.
00:15:26
I actually think that that was a really nice pick for them, but I don't I don't know about them, you know? I don't I don't know if I look at them, because what I wanted to see from them in a lot of ways was Hey, maybe you surprised in the bubble.
00:15:40
How do you make it so that you're arguably the second best team on paper ahead of the Celtics? How do you make it? So that is the South South, the Clippers, that the clippers need to come get you and beach you to the Western Conference finals as opposed to vice versa.
00:15:55
And I think they're still in that mix of the upper echelon of the Western Conference.
00:15:57
But they're right there in that pack of team.
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Same place they were last year.
00:16:00
We look at the standings, right? All those teams 43 44 45 wins.
00:16:04
They're on paper.
00:16:05
They're still in the same spot.
00:16:06
It's not a bad thing, but it also means that there's plenty of teams that could jump you in the West right now.
00:16:10
I would have been I really thought, that they were gonna try to make a key move to strengthen what they are.
00:16:15
I don't think they necessarily did that.
00:16:17
Yeah, no, I mean, they're They're funny.
00:16:19
It's like they're its's them.
00:16:21
The Nets are kind of like dishonestly where it's like they just don't have big wings.
00:16:24
And, um, I just don't know what that's gonna look like.
00:16:29
You know, the league is right now.
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It's all about Big Wings.
00:16:33
And they were banking on having a guy that really, really fit in to what they were doing with Jeremy Grant.
00:16:42
And he.
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It still is one of the weirdest MBA stories I can remember in recent memory, Um, leaves for Detroit, of all places.
00:16:53
Wants a bigger role.
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Sees himself is a primary offensive option.
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It's just weird.
00:17:00
I don't remember the last time somebody did that.
00:17:02
It was like Josh Smith esque or something like that.
00:17:04
Like I was like, This is crazy.
00:17:06
So I mean for him, I just I do get it for him, Like internally being like, Oh, like I'm gonna go be the man or a very important piece to this roster, as opposed to supplemental piece on with my current role on this team.
00:17:21
Now, the money was the same.
00:17:22
I still all things being equal, I'd probably go back.
00:17:25
And I say, I don't love what I'm seeing Detroit doing right now, and it seems more of a risk organizationally, right? You could point to a lot of different teams and maybe say if he landed on the Hawks.
00:17:34
You Oh, okay.
00:17:36
Like you want to be there with Trey Young and you're you got the defensive upside your the wing.
00:17:40
Like I could find a lot of spots that would feel better for him to take the same money and then feel like he has a bigger role specifically in Detroit.
00:17:46
It just seems like a high risk, relatively low reward, because I don't You're not gonna move the needle in Detroit as good as you gonna be there? Yeah.
00:17:54
I mean, it's I don't know, Like I go back and forth on this, like, part of me is just kind of like I don't know, like I don't know if I agree with that decision, whatever.
00:18:02
But then part of me is like I just again like As I said, I don't remember the last time somebody did that, and I kind of enjoy it right, Like the guy had the same amount of money to play on a championship team and he would have been 1/4 5th option, kind of no matter what.
00:18:18
That's just sort of how it's going to shake out there, especially with Will Barton coming back.
00:18:22
So I think it's cool.
00:18:24
I just and and to pick Detroit, of all places, which I mean look like if he's actually right on this and this is a home run like E don't want the last time they they've had a really cool, exciting, big wing player like that.
00:18:37
Like I I don't know.
00:18:39
I mean, the Blake Griffin thing was, I think turned out better than I expected it to turn out.
00:18:44
Even though there's been kind of one of three good seasons, Um, it's still just for me.
00:18:50
It zits intriguing.
00:18:52
I hope it happens for him.
00:18:53
And but that Yeah, footnote that one of three good seasons for Blake Griffin is going better than we thought it would like getting one of three years.
00:19:04
You're like, Oh, my God.
00:19:05
What good years He made all the b A.
00:19:09
I could not believe it when he looked as good as he did two years ago.
00:19:12
I couldn't believe it.
00:19:13
I was like, What is going on here? It's the same thing.
00:19:16
We have a Chris Paul this last year and will probably happened without Horford this year.
00:19:20
He's gonna look incredible again because for that, Presti is a boss.
00:19:25
Um, no, I mean, look like it's cool.
00:19:28
I I guess this is turning into the Pistons.
00:19:31
Almost.
00:19:32
It's like the coolest thing about the Nuggets is that they got kind of scorned like they got, they got left at the altar and it makes them interesting.
00:19:41
And it makes Jeremy Grant interesting, too.
00:19:44
Yeah, well, you know what? And by the way, like to tie it back into where we started with this and the talking about Chicago and being really technically a big market team.
00:19:50
But not having like Detroit should be a big market, you know, they should be within that conversation.
00:19:55
It's just the quality of the of the play and or lack thereof.
00:19:58
That's really pushed them down the hierarchy.
00:20:00
So, to your point, like Detroit is A is a ***y place to go play if you're good and then becomes excited to go back to the Rip.
00:20:08
Hamilton and Wallace.
00:20:09
You know Rashid and Ben like those days were really exciting and fun to watch, like those teams were great and they were gritty.
00:20:15
And that's kind of always been there theme there.
00:20:17
So if they could get back to a little bit of that kind of identity just in terms of the city like then they do become a fun watch.
00:20:22
Not on that when we talk about not unlike a team that maybe only wins 20 games in O k.
00:20:26
C.
00:20:27
But you're like, But what fun watch they.
00:20:28
I'll be really interested because on the surface, Detroit, everyone consensus just kind of been, huh? Interesting choice of moves that they've made this off.
00:20:38
So if this looks like anything other than what we think of like muddling, then it will be very exciting to watch other season unfold because then it means that they made some very unique and also smart choices.
00:20:50
Unlike what? Maybe we perceive it as I was looking up Blake Griffin's contract and wow! 33 36.
00:20:58
6 million.
00:21:02
Uh, man, that is all that money because I like I like Detroit a lot.
00:21:08
I almost would put Detroit in.
00:21:09
If, I mean, I guess the 123 of like Killian Hayes, who I I have a bad feeling about in his rookie season.
00:21:18
I just I don't think he's going to be very good in his rookie year.
00:21:21
And Jeremy Grant and Blake Griffin is like a super weird pecking order.
00:21:25
But I dio I enjoyed a lot, too. And Derrick Rose.
00:21:28
I completely forgot about him as well.
00:21:30
God, they might be one of my three team.
00:21:32
I'm like, Yeah, I'm looking like maybe there's a taste here.
00:21:35
Maybe they are you. Maybe they were.
00:21:37
Yeah, but you know what to be said.
00:21:39
They're very interesting, whether it's our interests like you, that that that Griffin Grant combo it is like, by the way, in some ways, but in some way, like if I want to think about it like it's complementary in the sense of Grant can do things well that are not inside of Griffin's wheelhouse and vice versa.
00:22:01
Like maybe you allow each of these players to quote specialize in what, in what they're best at.
00:22:07
Like if Grant just becomes offensive three and D guy on this roster, Okay, that's what's gonna happen on Griffin can just be, like any form of his, even even the like, the worst version of, like, a rim running, you know, kind of shot blocker agitator.
00:22:24
Like, if he can be that version of himself with Derrick Rose the point like it does become a little bit exciting.
00:22:29
I interesting.
00:22:30
Interesting to better word.
00:22:31
Excited.
00:22:32
I'm not the right word.
00:22:33
The more we talk about this, the more interested I get.
00:22:35
God, this is super weird.
00:22:37
What an interesting team.
00:22:38
Because, you know you have Blake Griffin there, but Blake Griffin is 31 you're probably gonna move off him.
00:22:44
So you bring in Jeremy Grant saying, Hey, like you're gonna come in and be our lead option.
00:22:49
Do you tell Blake Griffin on all MBA player.
00:22:52
Hey, guess what? You're actually gonna be second option, or you're gonna have to split your touches with Jeremy Grant, who's, um not really drivel that much in his career.
00:23:02
Like, Is that what you're gonna dio? Or is this naturally going to settle in? Because in the way that I would assume things that go normally is where Jeremy grants like the perfect counterpart Thio Blake, because of the things that he's able to dio defense playoff ball? Hey is kind of like the perfect counter to somebody like Blake Griffin, who is such a great creator and playmaker on DNA.
00:23:24
Not a great defender.
00:23:25
It'll be interesting, because on paper they're perfect for one another.
00:23:29
But this is not paper because Jeremy Grant supposed to be elite option.
00:23:33
It gets interesting.
00:23:35
Well, there's a couple of things.
00:23:36
One.
00:23:37
I think this Sadiq Bay pick up for them is nice.
00:23:39
If you wanna have a young player on the on the on the team, that could do defensive things first for you, so you could supplement some of what you're doing with these guys.
00:23:46
And then your point, though I think you have this season and maybe you, uh, the weird thing is, I wonder if there's any internal conversation.
00:23:53
Griffin's on the source of what you say.
00:23:54
Hey, we're going to get Grant, and the intention is for him toe to be a main option here for this roster.
00:24:01
What we need to trust is allow that to unfold early in the season and just let's just see what it looks like for you and how you end up still getting your looks, maybe in different weight, based on what rank can do out in the woods offensively, if you get.
00:24:15
If you get driven by into that, then you probably get some goodwill earlier to see you see how it unfolds.
00:24:20
If it isn't working, then great.
00:24:22
Listen, Worst case Blake.
00:24:23
We will end up trying to move you, and you'll have an opportunity to probably go to a contender, etcetera, etcetera.
00:24:28
If someone's take on that big contract.
00:24:29
So like, I think there's easy ways to maneuver around that.
00:24:31
But if if the relationship ends up working, well, then maybe Blake just say, Okay, I'm still gonna get my looks.
00:24:37
It's gonna be different than what I've been used. Thio.
00:24:40
But listen, he's been on, you know, he had a good run with the Clippers, and things didn't work out there.
00:24:45
In terms of the ultimate goal.
00:24:46
He's been a forgot man around the league like there's a world where this is good for him as well, because it just it rehabilitates.
00:24:53
What the perception is a guy who was all MBA like and he still is looked at.
00:24:57
Is this, like for gotten piece with a bloated contract that you would throw in T back assets just to dump that number? So maybe it's good for him as well, in some ways, if they can, if they can find a way to make that relationship work.
00:25:08
I even like the Derrick Rose even kind of like Derrick Rose on this team.
00:25:13
Yeah, it's not God.
00:25:18
This is interesting.
00:25:19
I wonder if they're gonna be a little more competent than people realize.
00:25:21
Because even like, look, they overpaid Plumlee.
00:25:24
Yes, totally.
00:25:25
He's not bad.
00:25:26
It's not like he's, like, abysmal.
00:25:28
I think that, like the pendulum swung too far.
00:25:32
Andi is a great locker room guy, like based on everything that, like the Denver guys talk about, um, you know, they it sounds like he's just, like, awesome for chemistry.
00:25:43
So I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs, because again, like, I guess that would have to mean they were keeping, you know, Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin, which they might I'd assume they would probably try to move Derrick Rose of the deadline.
00:25:56
But hey, you never know.
00:25:57
Um, but that's not a terrible roster.
00:26:02
Like, Do I like Atlanta better? Probably.
00:26:05
Could I see Atlanta blowing up spectacularly and and having literally zero literally zero defense it all? Yes, I could totally see that.
00:26:13
The Wizards.
00:26:14
I mean, John Wall.
00:26:17
Last time John well played, I might have been in high school like I don't e alright, aging John Wall and also aging me because I'm like, Oh, no, I remember I was strongly through college watching, watching him playing a fresh out of college.
00:26:35
All right, Like so this is that tells you how long it's been.
00:26:37
Alright, Eso It's like you never know now.
00:26:43
So you mentioned to you mentioned Atlanta.
00:26:44
You mentioned Washington to think about the idea of at the back end the Eastern Conference, where his playoff spot clearly very much open in the eighth seed.
00:26:53
At the very least, you're talking about a number of teams that could both be vying for it, or also flaming out tragically and they're all in all teams.
00:27:01
You maybe would put on the friendly.
00:27:03
If everything goes right for Detroit, they could at least be in the car.
00:27:05
By the way, we all know we're talking about the Western Conference and the difficulty for these teams.
00:27:09
Remember the A C was the Orlando Magic who want when, 33 40 in a shortened season.
00:27:13
So it's not like the bar is set at.
00:27:15
You need to be a 45 win team to make the playoffs in the East.
00:27:18
The the Where were the Detroit Pistons, who won 20 games? Listen, you gotta get the 30 and your quote in the conversation for the eighth seed in the Eastern Conference, so and 20 wins in a shortened season again.
00:27:30
So maybe they're closer to being closer to 25 than 20 in terms of wins.
00:27:34
Although this will be another 72 game season as well, it doesn't take a lot to move the needle.
00:27:38
So all these teams could be like riding high early and then just have disaster disaster. Things happen.
00:27:44
I think the biggest concern for Detroit is probably health to saying if we want to run this thing with Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin.
00:27:50
And maybe you see what it looks like the trade deadline.
00:27:52
You need both these guys to stay healthy, to be able to do whatever you want to dio.
00:27:57
If you have Derrick Rose, go down with an injury, Blake Griffin catches on and you're just trudging through a bad season because I think you have to be getting things back in return for these players.
00:28:06
Assets, Yes, but you still need warm bodies to be out of the court if you lose either one of them to injury.
00:28:11
At any point over the start of this season, you're staring into the barrel of a really ugly looking lost er.
00:28:16
If it's Senator Jeremy Grant as the number one like that, that's a that's a powder cake there for Detroit.
00:28:21
That's why I think again on paper, we all go.
00:28:25
Okay, let's see what happens next year, but and I wouldn't be surprised again.
00:28:29
I said this before.
00:28:30
I know I sometimes get get Brooklyn Nets centric.
00:28:33
There are three team trade options out there where Derrick Rose ends up somewhere else and you get a Spencer Dinwiddie to Detroit, and then you look at maybe assets for Brooklyn or whatever the case may be like.
00:28:44
There's low level moves like that for from Brooklyn standpoint, but that for from a piston standpoint, if you could take out right now, I'll tell you right now on paper, if you could take out Derrick Rose and put in Spencer Dinwiddie, Detroit would do that in a heartbeat.
00:28:56
Not just from a numbers standpoint, but just from, you know, age and the pure offensive play of other Spencer Dinwiddie who, like you know, he can take over scoring for you the length of a game.
00:29:05
If you could call something like that in any spectrum like that, I think the Detroit would be excited to do that at any point earlier this season, even leading up to the deadline.
00:29:14
Yeah, what's called Detroit are 2.5.
00:29:16
Let's move on to our number three.
00:29:18
That was the 2.5.
00:29:20
What is this? What's your hurry of Houston? It's not because it's not because of Harden being like I want out.
00:29:30
I actually think there's a chance he kind of likes playing with them.
00:29:33
I like Silas, Silas, Stephen Silas that how you say is last time.
00:29:36
I hope I'm saying that, right? Uh, I believe so. Yes.
00:29:39
Um, yeah, he's emphasized motion, offensive lot.
00:29:42
He's He's obviously worked with Carlisle, which is always a good thing on Dakar Lyles.
00:29:48
Very creative with his offensive sets.
00:29:50
I mean, look at they literally set the record for offensive efficiency last year.
00:29:55
Andi.
00:29:56
Yes, a lot of that is due to Luca, but by the way, Luca is really similar to James Harden.
00:30:02
And I could just see that happening.
00:30:04
You're adding Christian Wooden, who is, I think, a legit third option.
00:30:08
Like a legit third option he might be.
00:30:11
I think he's gonna balance out Westbrook, especially really.
00:30:14
Well, you're gonna have him kind of as a lob catching spacing, pick and pop option next toe.
00:30:21
Westbrook, which is really exactly what he needs on bit's gonna be like it's gonna be of Steve.
00:30:26
Even Adams could shoot threes.
00:30:27
I mean, he's gonna absolutely love it hard, and I think there's a chance he really likes playing with him, and I could see him in boogie.
00:30:33
Getting along too.
00:30:34
Like that just seems like a weird pairing that those two guys totally clicking and always.
00:30:39
They're kind of fun.
00:30:41
I like the roster.
00:30:43
I I you know, Stone.
00:30:45
I wasn't sure at first that first week I was like, Boy, I don't know about that Covington Trade and I get it.
00:30:51
He's got a lot of pressure from ownership to just, like, get rid of pieces at all costs and get under the tax.
00:30:56
But given what they've done and bringing in wood and bringing, you know, throwing a flyer at Boogie because, by the way, I can't think of a better their team than them to do that.
00:31:05
Like, honestly, if this doesn't work, whatever you're worried about Westbrook and hard and leaving anyways, so why not just say you don't screw it? Let's just do it.
00:31:14
Whatever.
00:31:15
E like it.
00:31:16
Yeah, I know you're right, though, and I like them for all the reasons beyond hardener beyond Westbrook, like in a lot of ways, everything they've done around them say to, um the Boogie Cousins piece is obviously crucial.
00:31:27
Come back and be any form of himself.
00:31:29
Then that becomes very intriguing.
00:31:31
If you could buy him and Woods and throw in a 35 year old P.
00:31:35
J.
00:31:36
Tucker who they used all over all over the physical back last year in terms of throwing them at the five.
00:31:41
Like if you can allow him to go back to a traditional four ish kind of role for you, like all of a sudden before five rotation comes really different than it was these years past.
00:31:52
Like that's I'm most intrigued around.
00:31:54
I will say from the heart and peace, is he like he's consistently said it, and you could take it for whatever it's worth that Hey, listen, like I've been offensively the way I've been because that's what the system kind of dictates for us under Dantonio.
00:32:08
There's a lot of great things that D'Antoni did but the collection of talent around you, right? Like now maybe it does look a little bit different for him.
00:32:15
If Boogie is healthy and he's on the floor, well, he's a legitimate scoring option for you.
00:32:20
So is Christian, would.
00:32:21
So is Russell Westbrook, like, I think, sometimes and you know, we've talked about so many different times about young players and how they develop and what mentality you instill into them, even if it's not from all the way from going back to O. K. C. Days.
00:32:32
At some point, Harden has developed a mentality of like I'm the only guy that score.
00:32:36
Why? Because he's been on teams where he's been the only guy who can score in Houston.
00:32:39
If you let him see that there's a lot happening there around him.
00:32:44
I I think that you can open up to those ideas, and I know you could say, Well, Westbrook was there last year.
00:32:48
But listen, that roster again, Tucker at the five like that was like smoking mirrors.
00:32:53
Just trying to get through this thing and make it look like there's something here that you can really hang your hat on the play offs and it couldn't like that wasn't something that was gonna be sustainable for them.
00:33:02
So, yeah, they become really intriguing for very different, very different reasons that I would've pointed Thio when we were come with that.
00:33:09
And by the way, just for the cab, uh, fans.
00:33:11
Kenyon Martin son is on the roster.
00:33:14
Kenyon Martin Jr drafted, uh, to the to the Houston Rockets.
00:33:17
Just if you're if you're a Nets fan, it's a little Oh my God, those guys.
00:33:20
So no, but yeah, they intrigue me.
00:33:22
And that's why I think that maybe one of the one of the one of the couples that were pointing to of, Hey, upper echelon teams that has some inch freak around them because then where did where would you put them? If this team stays together and then they can marinate a little bit, like, where are they in your Western Conference hierarchy? I know we ran down these the other day, but if this is the team and they all stay together and let's say let's say also Boogie is healthy, I have to at least put them in a mix at 55 and above, right.
00:33:50
Like I I God, they might be like my there in the mix with, like, Portland for that three seed.
00:33:55
I just I like that roster.
00:33:57
I might be too low on Dallas, but I'm really worried about the injury thing.
00:34:01
And then the sun's.
00:34:02
It's like the sun's, the Jazz, the Nuggets.
00:34:05
I don't know.
00:34:06
It's still a pretty balanced roster, even even after losing Covington for basically nothing like they, they're pretty balanced.
00:34:14
You make up quite a bit of ground Christian would and guys I do just the tip of the hat to Portland because they are.
00:34:19
They are interesting and it's for all like the little subtle moves they made.
00:34:22
But I say I am really excited to watch a Portland team that still is Dame Lillard and C.
00:34:31
J.
00:34:32
McCollum.
00:34:33
The guys that have been there and now you have with with Carmelo Anthony and all the other pieces, you have anarchy and everybody else.
00:34:37
But I'm excited to see like this team being an Upper Western Conference, even if it's for the regular season.
00:34:43
I don't know what's gonna happen to play House, but I would like to see them be a dominant team during the course of the season because it feels like that's what what Dame Lillard is deserving of.
00:34:54
And he hasn't got the opportunity to be like they should be talking about the Denver Nuggets earlier.
00:34:58
Like have they done enough? I wanted them to be pushing the Clippers if they're gonna kind of muddle around the four or whatever, like seeing Portland Cata pulled up there and say, Okay, clippers like your defensive based team and you've got the fire.
00:35:10
Let's see what we look like during the regular season matchups because maybe health and everything else considered they could be a very dangerous team out there as well.
00:35:18
And they also like they're not.
00:35:19
They're bringing in a couple of guys, but, like Covington's gonna fit in right away because coming to always fits in right away on its, like Harry Giles.
00:35:26
Okay, that's fine.
00:35:27
Like even like That's not gonna be a needle mover like they've improved their roster without adding any major major pieces, which I think for them, like S o many of these rosters in the West, or like, very new.
00:35:38
Like the Sun's very new.
00:35:40
The Mavericks are honestly, really, really know, like there.
00:35:42
This is a different identity for that team.
00:35:44
Um, you know, even the Rockets who I like like they have to bring in Christian would, And I don't know what that's gonna look like.
00:35:50
A bookie is well, like Hell wants his touches.
00:35:53
We'll see if he's, you know, good enough anymore to deserve those touches.
00:35:57
But they just It's a lot of teams that have new pieces and and and I think for them like that's a big advantage, they know exactly who they are.
00:36:06
It's gonna be Nurkic and C.
00:36:08
J.
00:36:09
McCollum and Dame Lillard.
00:36:10
But there's much better support around those guys, and I just I don't know.
00:36:14
I like that a lot for them.
00:36:15
And actually, that gives the Nuggets and the Jazz the leg up.
00:36:17
A swell, Yeah, familiarity.
00:36:20
Just feeling like you know what? That's what I mean, that's what because, especially out West, it becomes more interesting.
00:36:25
Um, say that in the Eastern Conference with some teams were just like, Oh, some teams made a very specific decision to stay true to what we have and try it again while other teams really, Oddly enough, it's like the Lakers really made some of the biggest quote unquote kind of moves to how they're constructed coming off of winning a championship, you know, so that it will be done Unless, in the 1st 1st 20 games, man, 1st 20 games of this MBA season are going to be like, Oh, okay, shuffle the deck here like I'll whatever list we came up with Western and Eastern Conference and how we look at these teams like give me 15, 20 games and I'm gonna go, Oh, God, I was so I was so far Off around team extra team line.
00:37:06
Yeah, it will be interesting.
00:37:07
It'll be interesting.
00:37:08
Um e a lot.
00:37:10
A lot could happen in the first couple weeks and then the cove in factor to, like, who? Just who knows it? Z well, going by the way, can you know, quick little teaser, maybe for Thursday is the impact of of teams that have these rocks because coming into the this first week of training camp, it's, you know, they're limited to N B.
00:37:27
A.
00:37:28
Teams are limited to four players and four coaches at a time in the facility, So you're not gonna get full runs here just initially in terms of getting guys in the camp.
00:37:34
So heading into the regular season, when you think about that, too, the deeper teams that have legitimate second units can also lean on those.
00:37:43
In a way, when you talk about losing players for a handful of games here and there and say, Hey, we can still get by, especially against weaker competition and either one of these conferences and still grab a handful of winds early in the year when some other rosters, they're gonna say if we don't have our guys.
00:37:57
It's running out the B or C squad and just living with taking some lumps early in the year.
00:38:02
Yeah, I could see the basketball being really bad to start if you want me to be honest, like all that stuff where they were like, Wow, we should not have travel.
00:38:10
And wow, we should, like, let guys rest there just like, No, actually, we were not doing that this weird season.
00:38:15
So, uh, yeah, which I mean sucks like I do wonder how that's gonna affect the basketball after having like they are taking any.
00:38:25
Q.
00:38:26
Sorry to jump in.
00:38:27
But they're taking any from the NFL's attitude as they move to Cedar.
00:38:29
Like if you got warm, bodies were playing the games.
00:38:32
It's a T least for some stretch of the season.
00:38:34
We're all gonna go.
00:38:36
Oh my God, can we not have to? You know, watch this, But you know, we'll see how it plays out.
00:38:41
And hopefully again.
00:38:42
It's It's different than NFL.
00:38:43
Less players, less body.
00:38:45
Let's everything you know.
00:38:46
So for the n B A just kind of pulls from the threat of the bubble and continues to look strong as they start way, We'll see. We'll see.
00:38:53
I I don't feel is I don't feel is, um I don't know.
00:38:58
I don't feel as great about the I mean, I didn't feel great about the bubble plan either.
00:39:04
So maybe that's different, but I just don't know.
00:39:05
Like what the protocol is.
00:39:07
I know they just had the 134 pamphlet come out 134 page pamphlet come out.
00:39:13
Which I did not take a look at.
00:39:14
So that's my fault.
00:39:15
What you can do that this weekend, Uh, one don't get co vid. Thanks. So yeah.
00:39:23
Yeah, that's that's pretty much it.
00:39:25
Um Did you do your number three? You did right.
00:39:29
Yeah, I had us.
00:39:30
So we I did Chicago.
00:39:32
I did.
00:39:33
Okay, See? And I did the nuggets.
00:39:34
Those are my three teams that may be keeping an eye on, and yeah, I think that probably listen, by the way, we could probably go back on Thursday and and think about other, you know, other other teams that are intriguing, maybe for the wrong reasons.
00:39:46
Right? Team, maybe go in a in a bad direction.
00:39:49
Enough because I feel like for the most part, these air positive potential stories.
00:39:53
Um, but maybe maybe it's gonna be a full Thursday about Detroit where we just go with and this is a deep change, but it would you go looking hard around the well, we're gonna Yeah.
00:40:03
Two hours of Detroit Pistons basketball.
00:40:05
Get ready for it on Thursday, my friend.
00:40:07
I'm gonna I'm gonna let you get going. Same for me.
00:40:10
It's gonna be a very busy week, I think, for the both of us.
00:40:13
Um, what do you got coming out? No, listen, it's media week.
00:40:17
So obviously what? We would dive into that on the next podcast and then over here, For what it's worth, we got Nets on SportsCastr.
00:40:24
You'll start to see some It's pop up, be covering the preseason games when they do those for the 13th in the 18th.
00:40:29
So keep an eye on that channel that's been relatively quiet in this off season.
00:40:33
Will start to ramp it back up, and hopefully, as those come out, we'll start to bring in some guests for, like, little live look ins during during the game as the season ramps up.
00:40:41
That's my That's my big news friends.
00:40:43
Matt, are you covering things Do you have writing to do? I got writing to Dio.
00:40:50
Yeah, it's gonna be a busy week of writing.
00:40:52
I have writing and then I have two shows this week.
00:40:54
I have a Raptor show tonight at 7.
00:40:57
30 which you can watch here.
00:40:59
In fact, go ahead and do that.
00:41:01
And then Thursday I'm talking Minnesota Timberwolves, which I'm excited for.
00:41:04
People don't know.
00:41:05
Um, I grew up a fan of the Timberwolves, so that's a That's a big one for me.
00:41:08
I'm excited.
00:41:09
That's your That's your low key hustle. Minnesota Timberwolves like you want.
00:41:11
You want to see something happening up there? I'm excited.
00:41:13
So s Oh, yeah, I'm doing that on Thursday.
00:41:16
Probably same time like 7.
00:41:17
30 ish, maybe eight.
00:41:19
Kind of locking that in andan.
00:41:21
Otherwise, I've been working on a video for my YouTube channel this week.
00:41:27
Um, which I have gotten a lot more done than I thought I would in one day.
00:41:30
I mean it Zweiri on the finish line.
00:41:32
I just need toe make it sound good.
00:41:34
So that's where we're at right now.
00:41:37
It's all on the Kyrie Irving Kevin Durant, pick and roll.
00:41:40
I talk about the propensity of that, how good that could be, as well as different play types that they can run.
00:41:46
I'm excited for it.
00:41:48
I you know, I mean people that, you know, I don't know how many people have read me on this website.
00:41:54
I don't really know.
00:41:55
Maybe you've gone on the Internet and read my stuff.
00:41:58
But if you don't already know, the stuff that I'm not doing, what I'm streaming here is mostly film based writing.
00:42:03
So I'm taking that and applying that to actual video because I know a lot of people.
00:42:08
Let's be honest.
00:42:09
Some people don't like read it.
00:42:10
They want to just watch a video, and that's how they like to consume content.
00:42:13
So for me, I want to provide that.
00:42:16
So that's that's what I'm That's what I'm doing.
00:42:18
My first film video, it's It's been Actually, it's been a blast to Dio read the work of Matt Brooks and then, yeah, let's take all that energy.
00:42:27
There's not too much overlap like you're not gonna be you're not gonna be reading.
00:42:30
My stuff will be like, Well, that was in the video, like I try to like space it out you know, there will be, like a scatter to that.
00:42:35
It's gonna be in the same thing.
00:42:37
No. What about just whatever.
00:42:38
If you're not doing it like the written content phenomenal from Brooks to begin with, I assume whatever we see on the video is gonna be the same type of quality.
00:42:46
I mean, it's good stuff.
00:42:47
It's the kind of stuff that is Doug Nor.
00:42:48
And I always say, you know, thank god for Matt Brooks, because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do it.
00:42:54
I'm not going to get in the room the way you need to if you want to be doing it and doing it Well, yeah.
00:42:59
I mean, I'm putting myself, you know, I'm at the risk of getting, you know, verbally undressed by someone.
00:43:05
If I If I do something wrong Film is, uh when you get something wrong in film, it's never fun.
00:43:11
So we'll see.
00:43:12
We'll see if I get it.
00:43:13
All right. It'll be great.
00:43:16
Everyone, everyone's gonna love it.
00:43:17
Definitely eso That's all I got.
00:43:19
So it's it's gonna be a busy week.
00:43:20
It'll be fun, though.
00:43:21
We'll be.
00:43:22
We'll be doing this in the mornings.
00:43:23
It's a good way toe.
00:43:24
Get everybody started and ready for what's gonna be an exciting week.
00:43:29
Hashtag at CNN ba right, It's on here for it at that Brooks at Adam are brick to the thing and everybody enjoy your Tuesday.

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