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00:00:00
54321 And here we g o Toronto's fight enjoy Ray Route has teamed up with Boston heartthrob Connor Carney to bring you d. P n. Commentary.
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A SportsCastr featured podcast.
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Join these two Bill Belichick band boys talking about the greatest team in NFL history every Tuesday and Thursday night Live on SportsCastr at 9 p.
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m.
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Eastern And now for the thousands of attendants and Patriots fans from all over the world.
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Ah, podcast that nobody asked for its DPM commentary with Ray and Connor, and we are back.
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Hello, everybody.
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My name is Ray, that is Connor.
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I'm the DPM.
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He's the commentary.
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Together we have this podcast called D P n Commentary.
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A SportsCastr featured podcast.
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My broadcast partner Corner Who's a traitor is ******* that throws me under the bus.
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Loves to play good cop Bad cop Makes me the bad cop all the time.
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Pretty much right just how it works, Connor.
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Today we're gonna be talking about how Cam Newton is not apologizing for the wind.
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Yesterday, Denver's Cream Johnson says that the NFL made an example out of Denver.
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Our man, Julian Edelman is back on the co vid list.
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Not good.
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This happened over the weekend, but we haven't a chance to talk about it yet.
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Matt, Patricia and Bob Quinn are out in Detroit on.
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I want to talk a little bit about how Jon Gruden is taking accountability for that embarrassing loss yesterday.
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But before we get into those featured stories, how you doing, Connor? Good man. Good.
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And actually, we kind of caught a little bit of a break as Patriots fans yesterday because the Raiders were one of the teams that we think are obviously in contention.
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And I think we both had them easily marked down for a win verse of Falcons yesterday.
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Yeah, we did.
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So it's and you know what? And what's happening with Baltimore right now is is going in favor of the Patriots as well, because they're gonna be playing.
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I think that it's gonna be RG three playing against Pittsburgh on Wednesday so that Wednesday afternoon, right, it should be a difficult game.
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But, Carter, you had a rough day today.
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I did, man.
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I did.
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I had to go get a covert tests.
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Have you had one done before? I got an H one n one test and it was the old school cotton swab down your throat.
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Yep, that's what they did to me today, man.
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I think that thing touched my brain, touched your brain and went down your throat.
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Came all the way back up and touch the brain Pretty close.
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Pretty close to it.
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That's when I had the time before.
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Man wasn't very intrusive at all today.
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It was the complete opposite.
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The guy just kept going up there.
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Well, we thought that for the players they get, they're getting this done like every day.
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But I thought the rapid tests were just saliva.
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No, no.
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If I don't think there's any saliva taken today, just whatever is all the way up your nose.
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Because when we for when we first talked about this and I thought Member and I was getting sick there and I thought I was gonna go out to go toe go get a covert test.
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I said, if my symptoms don't start relieving tomorrow, I'm gonna get it done.
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And thank God I woke up feeling okay in the morning.
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You're like, Tell me how it's not bad.
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It's not intrusive, you know, It's not like you here and now you're telling me it is like I hear.
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Yeah, I guess I got a totally different one done today because these were not the same tests.
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The one that I had a couple of weeks ago was nothing.
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It was like a Q tip today.
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I don't I don't know what the guy put up there.
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Not good.
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Not good. Not good.
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Today's cyber.
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Um, today's cyber Monday.
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Are you expecting anybody to watch us? Um, I would hope so.
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Cyber Monday. People already bought all their deals.
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They went out and bought the TVs.
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No black Friday this year.
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Really? Just order from your house, Cyber Monday.
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I was a little bit disappointed.
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I mean, obviously 2020 just been disappointing in general.
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But very as Canadians, there's nothing that we like better than watching the scenes of black Friday in the United States.
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Yeah, no one's dying at Walmart this year as a as a plus.
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Like, we have black Friday sales here, too.
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We have adopted that piece of it, but we we don't We just don't really.
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We don't get into it.
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And you know why they call it Black Friday.
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Do you know where the origins come from. For Black.
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I don't know.
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Let me educate the masses.
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The reason It's called Black Friday because that is the day, historically, that retail stores go from the Reds to the black.
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Oh, and that's why they call it Black Friday because it's officially the Christmas season.
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I think you announced that on Twitter on the 27th is officially the Christmas season.
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So black.
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Friday is the day that you start shopping for all those Christmas gifts and Kwanza and Hanukkah on whatever holiday that you spell you celebrated this time.
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Historically, black Friday is when and then Boxing Day is the day, the reason they call a boxing day because the day they're trying to get the boxes out there trying to unload all of the unsold goods from the US that what it is from the holiday sales? Yes.
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Yep, that's the day after Christmas, right? The 26 this boxing day, Correct.
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I just thought it was like Mike Tyson's birthday or something.
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No, no, it is not Tyson's birthday.
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It's they're trying to get a load.
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See, I'm educating people.
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We need to be educated on this show right anything you want to talk about before we start? No.
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Very happy that the Patriots gotta win.
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They just need five more of those, and I guarantee that they make the playoffs.
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But with the way things were going, maybe four and four and one will do it.
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All right? A little bit behind the curtain.
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I'm gonna give corner past today because he had to get a covert tests, and he's got a bunch of stuff going on at work.
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Today was supposed to be the day that he takes control the intro, but I could tell just the way it started that he had nothing.
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So that's why I decided to educate everybody on Friday.
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When when you texted me at 8.
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30 that you were still at work.
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I said, Okay.
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This is gonna be a problem now because of your situation at work.
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Are we gonna be starting late every day? I hope not.
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Today was just a mess, I hope.
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Hopefully we're better prepared to deal with what we have to deal with for the next two weeks.
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Tomorrow.
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But today was a disaster.
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If one thing I've learned at workplaces were never prepared.
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Yeah, I never prepared, but you know where you won't catch Cove in 19.
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Sitting at home watching DPM commentary and let's get into our featured stories of the day.
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So Cam Newton, despite having a poor game yesterday and it was a poor game, he went nine for 18, 84 yards total, zero touchdowns, two interceptions.
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He's not apologizing for the Wind yesterday, I think.
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Yesterday he came out and said he'd rather an ugly wind and a pretty loss, and I think that, given that he's had some decent games, he played well against Houston and even played well against Buffalo.
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I said the last four games before yesterday, Cam Newton played pretty well.
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He's not apologizing.
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He's saying I played bad, the defense and special teams.
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They bailed me out, and I made that big 14 yard run on third down when I needed to.
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And then, obviously, Simmons, through that ugly penalty, put them in field goal range of Nick Folk is a hero.
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Yeah, I mean, we already kind of talked about his performance yesterday.
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Cam Newton has been a guy who has taken accountability for every loss they've had this year.
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No matter even When I said he's played well and it wasn't his, I don't I didn't think it was his fault.
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He took the accountability and put the loss on him.
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Are you okay with him coming out? Not saying I played bad and just saying I'm gonna take this win.
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I'm not apologizing for winning now.
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He did acknowledge I should say he did acknowledge he didn't play well.
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But is he okay to come out and say, I'm not apologizing for losing today? Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
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How do you come out and apologize after a game that you just want? And they did what they needed to do on the last drive.
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They came down.
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They put Nick folk and position, toe win it, and that's exactly what happens.
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They played just well, enoughto win on offense.
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That's all they needed to do yesterday.
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So the Patriots are.
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The Patriots are in a little bit of a curious situation.
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Obviously, Cam Newton is a free agent at the end of this year.
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There's a part of the fan base that does not want Cam Newton back.
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There's a part of the fan base that wants him back.
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It's very split after week to Everybody wanted the extension, right? You know, everybody was ready after Week three.
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It was settled.
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Lock him up for 3 to 4 years.
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Now people have changed their tune because that's what fans do.
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Their erratic fan is short for fanatic, but I read a really interesting article today, and it was talking about It was basically saying now, Patriot fancy why Cam Newton was a free agent and it got into them cutting him from the Panthers and and replacing him with Teddy Bridgewater.
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And then for months, he sat on the open market and anybody could have signed him.
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The ends up signing a $1 million contract with the Patriots, and I think a part of his inconsistency this year hasn't helped his cause.
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Let me give you I broke down today, his good games versus his poor games because he hasn't really had okay games.
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He's had good games and poor games.
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He looked really good.
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Week one against Miami.
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He looked really, really good Week two against Seattle.
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Then he didn't have another good game until week eight against Buffalo.
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But then we started seeing some consistency.
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Week nine against the Jets weekend against Baltimore, Week 11 against Houston.
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And then his poor games were Week three against Las Vegas, which was a win week six against Denver.
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He wasn't good.
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He was awful.
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Week seven against San Francisco, and then he was bad.
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Week 12 against Arizona.
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Eso Basically, this article is alluding to the reason he was a free agent is because of what we've seen this year because of the inconsistencies.
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He shouldn't be the quarterback of the future.
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These next five games for Cam Newton do that because Bill Belichick, I should say Bill Belichick has really supported Cam Newton publicly and talked about how well he played last week.
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He talked about, you know, he made the plays when it mattered, which is, I think, the most important things sometimes that you make the plays when it matters.
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Has he done enough to warrant Bill Belichick to consider him for next year? Do you are these next five games crucial for him? Um, it really depends, I think, on what happens the next five weeks.
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I mean, he has to at least be considering him at this point.
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I don't know.
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You never know what Bill Belichick has in his mind.
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For all we know, Bill Belichick has some, like fourth round guy at a Rutgers that he's planning on drafting and having be the quarterback of the future next year.
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Um, you know, who knows? But I would figure he has to at least be in the conversations of signing Cam.
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Long term has to be on the table.
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At this point.
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I'll support whatever Belichick decides to Dio.
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That's that's where I'm gonna I'm gonna stand on it for for now because if he says that he wants to go to the draft and get someone young, I'm quote that if he says he wants to lock him up 34 years and try and build around him, I'm cool with that, too.
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Um, I just have no idea where Belichick's heads at right now.
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With this, we also don't know what Cam Newton will look like with actual legitimate weapons on offense, either.
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Now, there's also people who eat believe that even if the Patriots and I'm stealing this right from a very pessimistic Patriots writer on musket fire, I'm not reading the article, but I'm kind of breaking it down for you and basically said, Even if the Patriots win out, go 10 and six and make the playoffs, they're not actually a true playoff team.
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Now you may make an argument that, yes, the offense was inconsistent yesterday, and there has been inconsistencies across the offense.
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On yesterday was obviously big special teams plays, but the defense held Kyler Murray to 23 receptions for 170 yards, no touchdowns in an interception he's been one of.
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He's been one of the most prolific, UH, running our quarterbacks in the league has been top five in Pff Now.
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Cam Newton did drop from 13 to 17 after last week in his rankings on Pff, which is Obviously, we want Cam Newton to be in that top 15 for the Patriots to be successful.
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But when we talk about the Patriots chances of making the playoffs, they're actually in a really good spot.
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So Pff rated.
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The strength of schedule is going forward.
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So I looked at the Patriots and I looked at the teams that they're involved with.
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Patriots have the 22nd strongest schedule and out of all those teams that they're competing against for that sort of final playoff spot have way harder schedules.
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Baltimore has the third hardest schedule left on okay, Cleveland has the eighth, Vegas has the 19th and Miami has the 20th, right? So that's really putting two teams like Baltimore in Cleveland and really bad situations.
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And again, the Patriots having one of the weaker schedules.
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Now you can.
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You still got to play the Rams, But who are the Rams? They just lost to San Francisco? You still gotta play Buffalo? We? But it's a divisional game, but it Zengerle at this time, not in Buffalo doesn't make up last time, so, yeah, it does it.
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Does it make a difference? We'll have to see if this article predicted.
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Even if the Patriots make the playoffs, they're not gonna win a playoff game.
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I don't like that ****ogy because I have had the mentality of once you make the playoffs, you can win the Super Bowl.
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What? What do you think about this team? If they made the playoffs, would you give them the same chance of going to the Super Bowl's any other team that's in this tournament? Um, I mean, I think this well, if they're there to go on a 60 run.
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They're just gonna be on fire.
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So I think that at that point they definitely have a good chance to make a deep run.
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Um, I think the Chiefs of the Steelers probably the two teams in the A F C that have the best chance of going to the Super Bowl at this point.
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But if the Patriots are on fire like that after winning six games over over some very good teams, I think that they definitely have a very good chance and that they're not a playoff team, and we've seen them beat the Ravens.
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We've seen them beat the Cardinals.
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Um, at that point, they're gonna have to have beaten the Bills.
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They're gonna have to have beaten the Rams.
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How do you beat all of these teams? Who I? I'd say at this point, probably three out of four of them will be in the playoffs and say that they're not a playoff team.
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What team would you not want to play in the playoffs if you're the Patriots? Ah, the Chiefs and the Steelers, Really? Although the Patriots have always fared well against the Chiefs, even with Patrick Mahomes even this season, when they had Brian Hoyer, who was an absolute Dumpster fire out there, they still kind of hung around until the third quarter.
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In that game, they really didn't let Mahomes throw all over him.
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I'd say, Probably try and stay away from the steel.
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It's just because their defense is so good.
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Yeah, the Steelers reminds me a lot of the Patriots team of last year, though it's all based.
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If you can protect the football or not turned the football over, then there a beatable team.
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The problem is the Patriots turned the football over, usually at least twice a game, and that and normally when the Steelers get a turnover, it leads to points.
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Alright. Connor.
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So the Denver Broncos had a bit of, ah, rough game yesterday.
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They had no quarterbacks.
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They had to start their practice squad.
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Wide receiver Kendall Hiten.
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He went Hinton.
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He went one for 90 touchdowns and two interceptions for a grand total of 13 passing yards.
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I'll give him a hand.
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Well, Denver, The Denver Broncos cream Johnson believes that the NFL made an example out of Denver yesterday.
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Now, let's forget not forget, The reason they had no quarterbacks was because the quarterback decided not to follow protocols.
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They all sat in a room with no masks.
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So even though one guy tested positive for Cove it they were all put on the list because they did not follow the safety protocols and wearing that mask.
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Do you believe that the NFL was making example of a Denver or Resistance? The NFL having to plow along and not mess with schedule too much more? I think both I think they're playing all along has been to just keep pushing.
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They just keep going no matter what.
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They just keep finding a way to play somehow.
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And I think part of them they knew that they had the out where they're like, Whoa, this is also your fault.
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You know what I mean? We told you not to do this.
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We told you to wear masks.
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We told you not to put everyone in the same room.
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So then when it came out and it happened, they kind of knew they also had the out of, Well, too bad, so sad.
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We already told you not to do this.
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And now that you had, you have to deal with the consequences.
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So head coach Vic Fangio came out today, and he said he was disappointed with his quarterbacks.
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They're supposed to be the leaders on the team on the fact that they didn't follow protocols was a big hit to them.
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Hey, did take a bit of accountability and say that, you know, perhaps I didn't enforce the rules enough.
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But I also want to remind everybody that this is the same Vic Fangio that when the New England Patriots were dealing with covert and there was talk that their game could possibly be postponed, he made a comment along the lines off.
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Well, now we'll see who were men and who isn't.
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He talked about going to the grocery store and co vid not dictating his life.
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It's really funny how people's perspectives change when it gets a little bit closer to home.
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Do you believe that it was Vic Fangio's nonchalant lays a fair attitude to the protocols to cove it that put Denver in this situation and kind of, you know, made his quarterbacks kind of shrug their shoulders and not care.
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Yeah, yeah, probably.
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That's definitely part of it.
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And then the other part of it is personal accountability.
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Um, he can't be there watching them all the time.
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And they would probably just kind of had the same attitude as he does, though, because it does usually come from the top down.
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So it probably had a part to do with him, and then part of it was they just weren't following the rules on their own as well.
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Now, sometimes we talk about karma, and I don't want anybody.
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You know.
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Being affected by a global pandemic is karma.
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But when the New England Patriots were dealing with co vid Melvin Gordon was incense that the Patriots game was postponed and that thereby we got messed up.
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I mean, he posted multiple post to Twitter about how hot he was, how upset he was.
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We all know that that resulted in him drinking and driving later on that week.
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Yeah, I you know, it's almost kind of looking at him now, and I tweeted this at him a couple of times kind of like, Well, Melvin, we don't want you to get upset that the game is postponed again, so you have to play with no quarterbacks.
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I mean, is it just is this more further proof that sometimes guys just need to keep their opinions to themselves? I have no problem with people who are out spoken.
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But in this situation where it's like, Listen, you messed with the team that was dealing with Cove it now you're dealing with yourself.
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Don't expect any kind of different treatment.
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When you were the one that said we did nothing wrong, we shouldn't be punished.
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Well, New Orleans Saints didn't do anything wrong.
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They should be punished, either.
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Correct, right? By his own standards, that's 100% correct.
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I find it so ironic that it's like these guys that have come out and taking such a bold stance.
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Now when it has, they're the ones that it's happening to.
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They've already they've all of a sudden completely changed their mind.
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Now you know they shouldn't have to play.
00:21:43
But what changed between this week in week? Whatever.
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Four Week five, when the Patriots played the Broncos, the only thing that changes now it's negatively affecting them.
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Yeah, and look, the Patriots came out.
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I think today or yesterday that the Patriots were fined $350,000 for some other protocols around Cove in 19.
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And this isn't making an excuse for the Patriots.
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But the way I look at it is, is the way you handle things in Week three and four should be very different in the way you handle things in Week 12.
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They've also put in stricter protocols across the NFL, and people have learned from their lessons.
00:22:15
With all that being said, the Patriots are dealing with covert again is Julian Edelman was put on the Cove in 19 list today? What I have not been able to find yet was whether he tested positive or whether it's just because of close association.
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Uh, this is obviously going to delay.
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Julian Edelman returned to the Patriots that I think a lot of Patriot fans were hoping for.
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But can I gotta ask you, how confident are you in the Patriots and making this five and I'll run and going to the playoffs? Because there are some people questioning.
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I'm not one of them, but there are some people questioning whether a return at this point for Julian Edelman would even be worth it, right? Um, I mean, obviously until they're mathematically eliminated, which I think they could probably technically go four and one and still somehow make it if some other teams out to drop some games that we think they'd win like Vegas did to the Falcons.
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Um, I say, you know, keep keep going, keep trying.
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And Julian Edelman has the ultimate motor.
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I can't see him just cashing in and saying, I'll go worry about next season, especially if there's even an off chance that they could make the playoffs assed faras to answer the five and old question.
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I mean, I think they got the biggest one out of the way.
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I thought the Cardinals game was gonna be the most difficult one.
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I was the most worried about them stopping Kyler Murray, and they completely did.
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Um, I mean, they've they've looked great against some good teams and then played poorly against some bad teams.
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I don't know if it's been playing to the level of competition or what, but they got the hardest of the five games out of the way, in my opinion.
00:23:44
So why not? So prior to the season starting, the owner of the Detroit Lines and the Ford family sat down with head coach Matt Patricia in general manager Bob Quinn and essentially told them it's playoffs or nothing this year and let them know that they're seat was scorching hot for this season.
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That resulted in a four and seven record up till date that has Detroit fourth in the NFC North and on Thanksgiving, Detroit's game that they have every year.
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They were absolutely humiliated and thrashed by the Houston Texans, 41 to 25.
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And then on Saturday, they made the decision that both Quinn and Matt Patricia, we're going to be fired very quickly.
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Was this a move that had to be made? Yeah, 100%.
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This reminds me of the Bill O Brien in the Texans in Houston.
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It just had to be done.
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They've been losing for far too long.
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Um, I don't think he's had a winning season there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I think every seasons but a losing season, or if not, it's been very close.
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Um, I mean, how many chances can you give the guy.
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He's really showing no signs of improvement.
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It doesn't seem like the players even really care for him.
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Um, it was just a matter of time.
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Now.
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There's been a lot of former players that have said a lot of bad things about Matt, Patricia, Darius Slay being one of them, even coming out and saying that Matt Patricia isn't a good person.
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He didn't even talk about him as a coach that he had no respect for him as a man.
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They had a couple of different incidents back in Patricia's first season with them.
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Eventually, the lead Thio Darius Slay being traded.
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Did Matt Patricia try to be too much like Bill Belichick? Because we've saw success with Bryan Flores, who brought in his own coaching style, maybe learn some stuff from Belichick, but really built a solid culture in Miami.
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We saw Josh McDaniels trying to be too Belichick e.
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In Denver.
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We saw Bill O'Brien try to be too. Belichick E.
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In Houston.
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It's Charlie Weis didn't work.
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Uh, you know, a lot of guys.
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Romeo, who's the coach of the Houston now? The interim coach didn't work as a head coach anywhere is this just another example of somebody on the Bill Belichick coaching tree trying to be too Belichick in in a new organization and trying to build the Patriots way somewhere else.
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Yep, that's exactly what I think it is.
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And I think that a lot of these teams might even encourage that.
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They say, Oh, this guy worked under Bill Belichick for so long.
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He's gonna come in and be able to implement the same type of system here, and that's not gonna work, man. They have to be themselves.
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They can't try and mimic Bill Belichick and just hope that it's gonna work.
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There's only one Bill Belichick, and he's coaching into England still, So all these guys going out and trying to copy what he's done.
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I just don't see it working.
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And I think that's why Bryan Flores has been the most successful to date of who's left is because he still seems to be doing to his own way Now.
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Matt Patricia has been very strange.
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He's tried to control press conferences the same way Bill Belichick does it, but he doesn't have the rings or the pedigree toe support.
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What he does.
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Other things, too is.
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I wonder about what his own sense of self worth is and what his own ego did to him.
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I think there was a point this season when they asked him about coaching defense and he took credit for the Malcolm Butler interception, which makes you sit back and think, Well, Malcolm Butler made an amazing play in the Super Bowl.
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Brandon Browner completely picked out the play.
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Ernie Adams is the one who drew up the play.
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Okay, you called the goal line play based on the personnel that Seattle put out there.
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But you didn't put that play together.
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You didn't decide that.
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We're going to run that play 10 times in practice.
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That was Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams, who decided that? Did not Patricia think too much of himself? Yeah, yeah, probably.
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I mean, I know a lot of the A lot of people in the NFL or a lot of people just in general.
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Sometimes they let that type of success go to their head.
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So I think he just hasn't overly inflated ego, and maybe it's because he's doing so poorly there.
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He's trying to show like what he's done in the past and kind of put himself more on a pedestal now that he's not having as much success.
00:27:47
But, yeah, I don't know.
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I think he's definitely ah, little too egotistical with that one.
00:27:56
So Detroit got embarrassed on Thursday, Another team who's actually competing for playoff spot and having a pretty decent season got embarrassed.
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On Sunday, the Las Vegas Raiders were absolutely destroyed by the Atlanta Falcons, 43 to 6.
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Las Vegas is a team had five turnovers.
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Derek Carr threw zero touchdowns, one interception and lost three fumbles.
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If there was ever a time that a coach was gonna throw their quarterback in their team under the bus, it was this game.
00:28:29
And yet Jon Gruden, the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, has taken full accountability for this game.
00:28:36
He talked about not preparing his team enough.
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He said turnovers and fumbles are on turnovers and penalties are on the coaching staff.
00:28:45
He blamed the coaching staff and himself multiple times.
00:28:49
Yes, he acknowledged, the players need to execute better.
00:28:52
But he blamed the coaching staff very Belichick in because Belichick is one need to coach better play, better do everything better.
00:29:02
Was this a refreshing.
00:29:03
Take considering what we've seen and I have other examples outside of a certain greatest of all time down in Florida.
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I have other examples of people doing it.
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What did you think of Grudin instead of throwing Derek Carr and his team under the bus after putting on five turnovers and having a ridiculous amount of penalties, taking accountability for him and his coaching staff? Hey, good, good for him, man.
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My hat's off to him to actually take accountability there.
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Obviously, he could've taken the easy way out and just said, Hey, they had five turnovers.
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What do you want from May? But, you know, he came out and admitted that he could have coached better.
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They could have prepared better.
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I mean, and when you get blown out by that, it's not just one person, despite the fact that they had five turnovers.
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I mean, they obviously weren't prepared, um, to take that type of a beating in a game, that they should have one.
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Maybe they were just overlooking them.
00:29:52
They thought there was still be an easy victory on the schedule, and they didn't take it that seriously.
00:29:57
And that's on the coaches as well, but good for Jon Gruden, for putting it on himself instead of putting it on somebody else when he easily could have.
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Now we've criticized Bruce Arians a lot for how much is put on Tom Brady.
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Would this have been a situation, though? Do you think we would have been critical of Gruden for putting this on his quarterback in his players? Or do you think this would have been warranted if he wanted to turn around and say, We can't turn the ball over five times? The team played awful.
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I think it would have been more warranted, especially because he's not somebody who comes out and says it all the time.
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You know, you don't hear that from drunk, rude and often and because when you do turn the ball over five times, I mean it is on everyone when you lose by thirtysomething points.
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But five turnovers is just ridiculous.
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You can't turn the ball over five times and expect to win.
00:30:44
Speaking of someone who doesn't do it all the time, the L A Rams, who are fighting hard for a playoff spot, fell 23 to 22 absolutely decimated San Francisco 40 Niners team a day before it just found out they're not even be able to play in their home building this for like the next three games.
00:31:02
And they had four turnovers as well.
00:31:04
Jared Goff zero throwing touchdowns, two interceptions in 11 fumble lost.
00:31:10
And Sean McVeigh actually called him out to the media and talked about Jared Goff needing to take care of the football better.
00:31:18
Now Sean McVeigh has been probably the biggest Jared Goff cheerleader and has taken Mawr accountability than anybody else.
00:31:27
You think back to the Super Bowl when the Patriots defense just destroyed that offense, Sean McVeigh did not put it on a single one of his players or Jared Goff.
00:31:35
Con's completely put it on himself.
00:31:38
Are you surprised to hear Sean McVeigh call out golf? Because golf has had these kind of performances before? And Sean McVeigh hasn't done it right? Right? Yeah, definitely.
00:31:47
I mean, at this point, it might just be frustrating boiling over, or at this point, he doesn't know what else to say.
00:31:53
So he says, Hey, I'll try and let a fire under his button go out there in kind of trash into the media little bit and say he needs to take care of the football better.
00:32:02
And hopefully that you know incentivizes them or, you know, gets gets him pumped up to play better and Thio to take care of the football better.
00:32:10
But he has been his biggest cheerleader over time, so I'm definitely surprised to hear him say that.
00:32:15
So it's really funny you went there and I want to go a little bit further when you talked about Maybe this will light a fire because, yeah, I mean, if you're Jared Goff and you're sitting there and hearing Sean McVeigh calling you out for not taking care of the football after the guy's been waving his pom poms for you for the last three years as Jared Goff you not a point that you have no choice but to play lights out next week.
00:32:37
Yeah, yep, this is a huge test for Jared Goff, and you know, he's been very volatile.
00:32:43
He's had some really bad weeks like last week, and he's had some incredible weeks where he throws for 400 yards.
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So I would I would think he has to come out and rise to the challenge especially with him really scrapping for a playoff spot.
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It's on him this week.
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He has to come out and have one of those huge lights out games that he's had Now.
00:33:02
I've openly admitted that I'm bitter about Tom Brady leaving the Patriots and heading over to Tampa.
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I have a little bit of Ah, chuckle on a laugh to myself when I think about him having tension inside the locker room with Bruce Arians, because that's exactly why he left New England looking for some validation, looking for a pat on the back, cause me? No, Belichick wouldn't give it to him.
00:33:25
And yet he's getting sort of the same treatment in Tampa Bay.
00:33:29
The only difference.
00:33:30
Being Bruce Arians is a bit of an *******, and he's doing it publicly.
00:33:34
Bill Belichick never did it publicly.
00:33:36
He kept that within the locker room.
00:33:38
And yet this week, Tom Brady was asked about his relationship with his coach, and he openly supported his teammates and his coaches.
00:33:47
This week, we know that that's not how Bill or how Tom Brady feels right now, but he never publicly called out Bill Belichick, either.
00:33:56
What do you think of Tom Brady is a professional that here he is constantly being called out in public.
00:34:01
They talked and they were asking him about Bruce Arians still making him run a different offense and not running his offense.
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Should Tom Brady have turned around and said, You know what? I am more accomplished.
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I am bigger than him.
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I'm I'm the one who brought him in because apparently that tension comes into We brought you Gronk.
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We brought you a B and you're still not getting the job done.
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You know what should break If you were Tom Brady, What do you Did he do the right thing? Or should he have said something publicly and finally shut Bruce Arians up? I think he did do the right thing.
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I think if he wants to say something to Bruce Arians, he should say it in private.
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You know what I mean It before he airs it out to the media despite Sorry.
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Sorry, but hasn't Bruce Arians lost that right by airing all the public? Are all the dirty laundry to the public already? Yeah, that's that is a statement.
00:34:48
Despite the fact that Bruce Arians runs to the media every time they lose.
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I feel like he can't wait to get on there.
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And he's like while we lost our quarterback played terrible in It's It's dumbfounded to me some of the stuff that he comes out and says after losses.
00:35:03
But Brady good for him.
00:35:05
Stay professional, man.
00:35:06
Just talk to him about it in private, you know, because I don't know.
00:35:11
It's not.
00:35:12
Probably not the time when you're trying to fight for a playoff spot to get into a ****ing match with their coach in the media.
00:35:18
Well, I'm gonna say this, Carter.
00:35:19
This turned out to be a pretty good show.
00:35:21
All considered you had to deal with Covic.
00:35:24
I'm ****ed.
00:35:25
I'm ****y today.
00:35:26
I'm a little *****y and ****y today.
00:35:28
I had a pretty intense Rays uses rant over on YouTube.
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Then we had technical difficulties before you go on.
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But I think this turned out pretty good.
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So before we can ruin anything, do you have anything left to say to the people? Patriots are only five games away, man.
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One game closer.
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One game closer.
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Cam Newton isn’t apologizing for winning

The New England Patriots emerged with a hard-fought 20-17 win over the Arizona Cardinals on Sunday, but it did not produce a vintage Cam Newton performance. Not by a long shot. On Monday, the former league MVP was quick to admit that he was far from his best against Arizona. However, Newton was adamant that […]

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54321 And here we g o Toronto's fight enjoy Ray Route has teamed up with Boston heartthrob Connor Carney to bring you d. P n. Commentary.
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Ah, podcast that nobody asked for its DPM commentary with Ray and Connor, and we are back.
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Hello, everybody.
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My name is Ray, that is Connor.
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I'm the DPM.
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He's the commentary.
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Together we have this podcast called D P n Commentary.
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A SportsCastr featured podcast.
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My broadcast partner Corner Who's a traitor is ******* that throws me under the bus.
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Loves to play good cop Bad cop Makes me the bad cop all the time.
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Pretty much right just how it works, Connor.
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Today we're gonna be talking about how Cam Newton is not apologizing for the wind.
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Yesterday, Denver's Cream Johnson says that the NFL made an example out of Denver.
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Our man, Julian Edelman is back on the co vid list.
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Not good.
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This happened over the weekend, but we haven't a chance to talk about it yet.
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Matt, Patricia and Bob Quinn are out in Detroit on.
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I want to talk a little bit about how Jon Gruden is taking accountability for that embarrassing loss yesterday.
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But before we get into those featured stories, how you doing, Connor? Good man. Good.
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And actually, we kind of caught a little bit of a break as Patriots fans yesterday because the Raiders were one of the teams that we think are obviously in contention.
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And I think we both had them easily marked down for a win verse of Falcons yesterday.
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Yeah, we did.
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So it's and you know what? And what's happening with Baltimore right now is is going in favor of the Patriots as well, because they're gonna be playing.
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I think that it's gonna be RG three playing against Pittsburgh on Wednesday so that Wednesday afternoon, right, it should be a difficult game.
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But, Carter, you had a rough day today.
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I did, man.
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I did.
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I had to go get a covert tests.
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Have you had one done before? I got an H one n one test and it was the old school cotton swab down your throat.
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Yep, that's what they did to me today, man.
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I think that thing touched my brain, touched your brain and went down your throat.
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Came all the way back up and touch the brain Pretty close.
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Pretty close to it.
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That's when I had the time before.
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Man wasn't very intrusive at all today.
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It was the complete opposite.
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The guy just kept going up there.
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Well, we thought that for the players they get, they're getting this done like every day.
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But I thought the rapid tests were just saliva.
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No, no.
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If I don't think there's any saliva taken today, just whatever is all the way up your nose.
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Because when we for when we first talked about this and I thought Member and I was getting sick there and I thought I was gonna go out to go toe go get a covert test.
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I said, if my symptoms don't start relieving tomorrow, I'm gonna get it done.
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And thank God I woke up feeling okay in the morning.
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You're like, Tell me how it's not bad.
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It's not intrusive, you know, It's not like you here and now you're telling me it is like I hear.
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Yeah, I guess I got a totally different one done today because these were not the same tests.
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The one that I had a couple of weeks ago was nothing.
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It was like a Q tip today.
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I don't I don't know what the guy put up there.
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Not good.
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Not good. Not good.
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Today's cyber.
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Um, today's cyber Monday.
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Are you expecting anybody to watch us? Um, I would hope so.
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Cyber Monday. People already bought all their deals.
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They went out and bought the TVs.
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No black Friday this year.
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Really? Just order from your house, Cyber Monday.
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I was a little bit disappointed.
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I mean, obviously 2020 just been disappointing in general.
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But very as Canadians, there's nothing that we like better than watching the scenes of black Friday in the United States.
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Yeah, no one's dying at Walmart this year as a as a plus.
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Like, we have black Friday sales here, too.
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We have adopted that piece of it, but we we don't We just don't really.
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We don't get into it.
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And you know why they call it Black Friday.
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Do you know where the origins come from. For Black.
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I don't know.
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Let me educate the masses.
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The reason It's called Black Friday because that is the day, historically, that retail stores go from the Reds to the black.
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Oh, and that's why they call it Black Friday because it's officially the Christmas season.
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I think you announced that on Twitter on the 27th is officially the Christmas season.
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So black.
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Friday is the day that you start shopping for all those Christmas gifts and Kwanza and Hanukkah on whatever holiday that you spell you celebrated this time.
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Historically, black Friday is when and then Boxing Day is the day, the reason they call a boxing day because the day they're trying to get the boxes out there trying to unload all of the unsold goods from the US that what it is from the holiday sales? Yes.
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Yep, that's the day after Christmas, right? The 26 this boxing day, Correct.
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I just thought it was like Mike Tyson's birthday or something.
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No, no, it is not Tyson's birthday.
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It's they're trying to get a load.
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See, I'm educating people.
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We need to be educated on this show right anything you want to talk about before we start? No.
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Very happy that the Patriots gotta win.
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They just need five more of those, and I guarantee that they make the playoffs.
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But with the way things were going, maybe four and four and one will do it.
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All right? A little bit behind the curtain.
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I'm gonna give corner past today because he had to get a covert tests, and he's got a bunch of stuff going on at work.
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Today was supposed to be the day that he takes control the intro, but I could tell just the way it started that he had nothing.
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So that's why I decided to educate everybody on Friday.
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When when you texted me at 8.
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30 that you were still at work.
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I said, Okay.
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This is gonna be a problem now because of your situation at work.
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Are we gonna be starting late every day? I hope not.
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Today was just a mess, I hope.
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Hopefully we're better prepared to deal with what we have to deal with for the next two weeks.
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Tomorrow.
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But today was a disaster.
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If one thing I've learned at workplaces were never prepared.
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Yeah, I never prepared, but you know where you won't catch Cove in 19.
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Sitting at home watching DPM commentary and let's get into our featured stories of the day.
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So Cam Newton, despite having a poor game yesterday and it was a poor game, he went nine for 18, 84 yards total, zero touchdowns, two interceptions.
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He's not apologizing for the Wind yesterday, I think.
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Yesterday he came out and said he'd rather an ugly wind and a pretty loss, and I think that, given that he's had some decent games, he played well against Houston and even played well against Buffalo.
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I said the last four games before yesterday, Cam Newton played pretty well.
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He's not apologizing.
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He's saying I played bad, the defense and special teams.
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They bailed me out, and I made that big 14 yard run on third down when I needed to.
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And then, obviously, Simmons, through that ugly penalty, put them in field goal range of Nick Folk is a hero.
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Yeah, I mean, we already kind of talked about his performance yesterday.
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Cam Newton has been a guy who has taken accountability for every loss they've had this year.
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No matter even When I said he's played well and it wasn't his, I don't I didn't think it was his fault.
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He took the accountability and put the loss on him.
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Are you okay with him coming out? Not saying I played bad and just saying I'm gonna take this win.
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I'm not apologizing for winning now.
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He did acknowledge I should say he did acknowledge he didn't play well.
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But is he okay to come out and say, I'm not apologizing for losing today? Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
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How do you come out and apologize after a game that you just want? And they did what they needed to do on the last drive.
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They came down.
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They put Nick folk and position, toe win it, and that's exactly what happens.
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They played just well, enoughto win on offense.
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That's all they needed to do yesterday.
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So the Patriots are.
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The Patriots are in a little bit of a curious situation.
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Obviously, Cam Newton is a free agent at the end of this year.
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There's a part of the fan base that does not want Cam Newton back.
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There's a part of the fan base that wants him back.
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It's very split after week to Everybody wanted the extension, right? You know, everybody was ready after Week three.
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It was settled.
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Lock him up for 3 to 4 years.
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Now people have changed their tune because that's what fans do.
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Their erratic fan is short for fanatic, but I read a really interesting article today, and it was talking about It was basically saying now, Patriot fancy why Cam Newton was a free agent and it got into them cutting him from the Panthers and and replacing him with Teddy Bridgewater.
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And then for months, he sat on the open market and anybody could have signed him.
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The ends up signing a $1 million contract with the Patriots, and I think a part of his inconsistency this year hasn't helped his cause.
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Let me give you I broke down today, his good games versus his poor games because he hasn't really had okay games.
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He's had good games and poor games.
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He looked really good.
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Week one against Miami.
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He looked really, really good Week two against Seattle.
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Then he didn't have another good game until week eight against Buffalo.
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But then we started seeing some consistency.
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Week nine against the Jets weekend against Baltimore, Week 11 against Houston.
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And then his poor games were Week three against Las Vegas, which was a win week six against Denver.
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He wasn't good.
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He was awful.
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Week seven against San Francisco, and then he was bad.
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Week 12 against Arizona.
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Eso Basically, this article is alluding to the reason he was a free agent is because of what we've seen this year because of the inconsistencies.
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He shouldn't be the quarterback of the future.
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These next five games for Cam Newton do that because Bill Belichick, I should say Bill Belichick has really supported Cam Newton publicly and talked about how well he played last week.
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He talked about, you know, he made the plays when it mattered, which is, I think, the most important things sometimes that you make the plays when it matters.
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Has he done enough to warrant Bill Belichick to consider him for next year? Do you are these next five games crucial for him? Um, it really depends, I think, on what happens the next five weeks.
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I mean, he has to at least be considering him at this point.
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I don't know.
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You never know what Bill Belichick has in his mind.
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For all we know, Bill Belichick has some, like fourth round guy at a Rutgers that he's planning on drafting and having be the quarterback of the future next year.
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Um, you know, who knows? But I would figure he has to at least be in the conversations of signing Cam.
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Long term has to be on the table.
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At this point.
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I'll support whatever Belichick decides to Dio.
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That's that's where I'm gonna I'm gonna stand on it for for now because if he says that he wants to go to the draft and get someone young, I'm quote that if he says he wants to lock him up 34 years and try and build around him, I'm cool with that, too.
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Um, I just have no idea where Belichick's heads at right now.
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With this, we also don't know what Cam Newton will look like with actual legitimate weapons on offense, either.
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Now, there's also people who eat believe that even if the Patriots and I'm stealing this right from a very pessimistic Patriots writer on musket fire, I'm not reading the article, but I'm kind of breaking it down for you and basically said, Even if the Patriots win out, go 10 and six and make the playoffs, they're not actually a true playoff team.
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Now you may make an argument that, yes, the offense was inconsistent yesterday, and there has been inconsistencies across the offense.
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On yesterday was obviously big special teams plays, but the defense held Kyler Murray to 23 receptions for 170 yards, no touchdowns in an interception he's been one of.
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He's been one of the most prolific, UH, running our quarterbacks in the league has been top five in Pff Now.
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Cam Newton did drop from 13 to 17 after last week in his rankings on Pff, which is Obviously, we want Cam Newton to be in that top 15 for the Patriots to be successful.
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But when we talk about the Patriots chances of making the playoffs, they're actually in a really good spot.
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So Pff rated.
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The strength of schedule is going forward.
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So I looked at the Patriots and I looked at the teams that they're involved with.
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Patriots have the 22nd strongest schedule and out of all those teams that they're competing against for that sort of final playoff spot have way harder schedules.
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Baltimore has the third hardest schedule left on okay, Cleveland has the eighth, Vegas has the 19th and Miami has the 20th, right? So that's really putting two teams like Baltimore in Cleveland and really bad situations.
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And again, the Patriots having one of the weaker schedules.
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Now you can.
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You still got to play the Rams, But who are the Rams? They just lost to San Francisco? You still gotta play Buffalo? We? But it's a divisional game, but it Zengerle at this time, not in Buffalo doesn't make up last time, so, yeah, it does it.
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Does it make a difference? We'll have to see if this article predicted.
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Even if the Patriots make the playoffs, they're not gonna win a playoff game.
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I don't like that ****ogy because I have had the mentality of once you make the playoffs, you can win the Super Bowl.
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What? What do you think about this team? If they made the playoffs, would you give them the same chance of going to the Super Bowl's any other team that's in this tournament? Um, I mean, I think this well, if they're there to go on a 60 run.
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They're just gonna be on fire.
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So I think that at that point they definitely have a good chance to make a deep run.
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Um, I think the Chiefs of the Steelers probably the two teams in the A F C that have the best chance of going to the Super Bowl at this point.
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But if the Patriots are on fire like that after winning six games over over some very good teams, I think that they definitely have a very good chance and that they're not a playoff team, and we've seen them beat the Ravens.
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We've seen them beat the Cardinals.
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Um, at that point, they're gonna have to have beaten the Bills.
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They're gonna have to have beaten the Rams.
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How do you beat all of these teams? Who I? I'd say at this point, probably three out of four of them will be in the playoffs and say that they're not a playoff team.
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What team would you not want to play in the playoffs if you're the Patriots? Ah, the Chiefs and the Steelers, Really? Although the Patriots have always fared well against the Chiefs, even with Patrick Mahomes even this season, when they had Brian Hoyer, who was an absolute Dumpster fire out there, they still kind of hung around until the third quarter.
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In that game, they really didn't let Mahomes throw all over him.
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I'd say, Probably try and stay away from the steel.
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It's just because their defense is so good.
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Yeah, the Steelers reminds me a lot of the Patriots team of last year, though it's all based.
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If you can protect the football or not turned the football over, then there a beatable team.
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The problem is the Patriots turned the football over, usually at least twice a game, and that and normally when the Steelers get a turnover, it leads to points.
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Yes, sir.
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Alright. Connor.
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So the Denver Broncos had a bit of, ah, rough game yesterday.
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They had no quarterbacks.
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They had to start their practice squad.
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Wide receiver Kendall Hiten.
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He went Hinton.
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He went one for 90 touchdowns and two interceptions for a grand total of 13 passing yards.
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I'll give him a hand.
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Well, Denver, The Denver Broncos cream Johnson believes that the NFL made an example out of Denver yesterday.
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Now, let's forget not forget, The reason they had no quarterbacks was because the quarterback decided not to follow protocols.
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They all sat in a room with no masks.
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So even though one guy tested positive for Cove it they were all put on the list because they did not follow the safety protocols and wearing that mask.
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Do you believe that the NFL was making example of a Denver or Resistance? The NFL having to plow along and not mess with schedule too much more? I think both I think they're playing all along has been to just keep pushing.
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They just keep going no matter what.
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They just keep finding a way to play somehow.
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And I think part of them they knew that they had the out where they're like, Whoa, this is also your fault.
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You know what I mean? We told you not to do this.
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We told you to wear masks.
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We told you not to put everyone in the same room.
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So then when it came out and it happened, they kind of knew they also had the out of, Well, too bad, so sad.
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We already told you not to do this.
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And now that you had, you have to deal with the consequences.
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So head coach Vic Fangio came out today, and he said he was disappointed with his quarterbacks.
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They're supposed to be the leaders on the team on the fact that they didn't follow protocols was a big hit to them.
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Hey, did take a bit of accountability and say that, you know, perhaps I didn't enforce the rules enough.
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But I also want to remind everybody that this is the same Vic Fangio that when the New England Patriots were dealing with covert and there was talk that their game could possibly be postponed, he made a comment along the lines off.
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Well, now we'll see who were men and who isn't.
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He talked about going to the grocery store and co vid not dictating his life.
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It's really funny how people's perspectives change when it gets a little bit closer to home.
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Do you believe that it was Vic Fangio's nonchalant lays a fair attitude to the protocols to cove it that put Denver in this situation and kind of, you know, made his quarterbacks kind of shrug their shoulders and not care.
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Yeah, yeah, probably.
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That's definitely part of it.
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And then the other part of it is personal accountability.
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Um, he can't be there watching them all the time.
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And they would probably just kind of had the same attitude as he does, though, because it does usually come from the top down.
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So it probably had a part to do with him, and then part of it was they just weren't following the rules on their own as well.
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Now, sometimes we talk about karma, and I don't want anybody.
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You know.
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Being affected by a global pandemic is karma.
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But when the New England Patriots were dealing with co vid Melvin Gordon was incense that the Patriots game was postponed and that thereby we got messed up.
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I mean, he posted multiple post to Twitter about how hot he was, how upset he was.
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We all know that that resulted in him drinking and driving later on that week.
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Yeah, I you know, it's almost kind of looking at him now, and I tweeted this at him a couple of times kind of like, Well, Melvin, we don't want you to get upset that the game is postponed again, so you have to play with no quarterbacks.
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I mean, is it just is this more further proof that sometimes guys just need to keep their opinions to themselves? I have no problem with people who are out spoken.
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But in this situation where it's like, Listen, you messed with the team that was dealing with Cove it now you're dealing with yourself.
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Don't expect any kind of different treatment.
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When you were the one that said we did nothing wrong, we shouldn't be punished.
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Well, New Orleans Saints didn't do anything wrong.
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They should be punished, either.
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Correct, right? By his own standards, that's 100% correct.
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I find it so ironic that it's like these guys that have come out and taking such a bold stance.
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Now when it has, they're the ones that it's happening to.
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They've already they've all of a sudden completely changed their mind.
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Now you know they shouldn't have to play.
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But what changed between this week in week? Whatever.
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Four Week five, when the Patriots played the Broncos, the only thing that changes now it's negatively affecting them.
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Yeah, and look, the Patriots came out.
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I think today or yesterday that the Patriots were fined $350,000 for some other protocols around Cove in 19.
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And this isn't making an excuse for the Patriots.
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But the way I look at it is, is the way you handle things in Week three and four should be very different in the way you handle things in Week 12.
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They've also put in stricter protocols across the NFL, and people have learned from their lessons.
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With all that being said, the Patriots are dealing with covert again is Julian Edelman was put on the Cove in 19 list today? What I have not been able to find yet was whether he tested positive or whether it's just because of close association.
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Uh, this is obviously going to delay.
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Julian Edelman returned to the Patriots that I think a lot of Patriot fans were hoping for.
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But can I gotta ask you, how confident are you in the Patriots and making this five and I'll run and going to the playoffs? Because there are some people questioning.
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I'm not one of them, but there are some people questioning whether a return at this point for Julian Edelman would even be worth it, right? Um, I mean, obviously until they're mathematically eliminated, which I think they could probably technically go four and one and still somehow make it if some other teams out to drop some games that we think they'd win like Vegas did to the Falcons.
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Um, I say, you know, keep keep going, keep trying.
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And Julian Edelman has the ultimate motor.
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I can't see him just cashing in and saying, I'll go worry about next season, especially if there's even an off chance that they could make the playoffs assed faras to answer the five and old question.
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I mean, I think they got the biggest one out of the way.
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I thought the Cardinals game was gonna be the most difficult one.
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I was the most worried about them stopping Kyler Murray, and they completely did.
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Um, I mean, they've they've looked great against some good teams and then played poorly against some bad teams.
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I don't know if it's been playing to the level of competition or what, but they got the hardest of the five games out of the way, in my opinion.
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So why not? So prior to the season starting, the owner of the Detroit Lines and the Ford family sat down with head coach Matt Patricia in general manager Bob Quinn and essentially told them it's playoffs or nothing this year and let them know that they're seat was scorching hot for this season.
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That resulted in a four and seven record up till date that has Detroit fourth in the NFC North and on Thanksgiving, Detroit's game that they have every year.
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They were absolutely humiliated and thrashed by the Houston Texans, 41 to 25.
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And then on Saturday, they made the decision that both Quinn and Matt Patricia, we're going to be fired very quickly.
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Was this a move that had to be made? Yeah, 100%.
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This reminds me of the Bill O Brien in the Texans in Houston.
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It just had to be done.
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They've been losing for far too long.
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Um, I don't think he's had a winning season there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I think every seasons but a losing season, or if not, it's been very close.
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Um, I mean, how many chances can you give the guy.
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He's really showing no signs of improvement.
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It doesn't seem like the players even really care for him.
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Um, it was just a matter of time.
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Now.
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There's been a lot of former players that have said a lot of bad things about Matt, Patricia, Darius Slay being one of them, even coming out and saying that Matt Patricia isn't a good person.
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He didn't even talk about him as a coach that he had no respect for him as a man.
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They had a couple of different incidents back in Patricia's first season with them.
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Eventually, the lead Thio Darius Slay being traded.
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Did Matt Patricia try to be too much like Bill Belichick? Because we've saw success with Bryan Flores, who brought in his own coaching style, maybe learn some stuff from Belichick, but really built a solid culture in Miami.
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We saw Josh McDaniels trying to be too Belichick e.
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In Denver.
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We saw Bill O'Brien try to be too. Belichick E.
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In Houston.
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It's Charlie Weis didn't work.
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Uh, you know, a lot of guys.
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Romeo, who's the coach of the Houston now? The interim coach didn't work as a head coach anywhere is this just another example of somebody on the Bill Belichick coaching tree trying to be too Belichick in in a new organization and trying to build the Patriots way somewhere else.
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Yep, that's exactly what I think it is.
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And I think that a lot of these teams might even encourage that.
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They say, Oh, this guy worked under Bill Belichick for so long.
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He's gonna come in and be able to implement the same type of system here, and that's not gonna work, man. They have to be themselves.
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They can't try and mimic Bill Belichick and just hope that it's gonna work.
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There's only one Bill Belichick, and he's coaching into England still, So all these guys going out and trying to copy what he's done.
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I just don't see it working.
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And I think that's why Bryan Flores has been the most successful to date of who's left is because he still seems to be doing to his own way Now.
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Matt Patricia has been very strange.
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He's tried to control press conferences the same way Bill Belichick does it, but he doesn't have the rings or the pedigree toe support.
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What he does.
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Other things, too is.
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I wonder about what his own sense of self worth is and what his own ego did to him.
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I think there was a point this season when they asked him about coaching defense and he took credit for the Malcolm Butler interception, which makes you sit back and think, Well, Malcolm Butler made an amazing play in the Super Bowl.
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Brandon Browner completely picked out the play.
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Ernie Adams is the one who drew up the play.
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Okay, you called the goal line play based on the personnel that Seattle put out there.
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But you didn't put that play together.
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You didn't decide that.
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We're going to run that play 10 times in practice.
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That was Bill Belichick and Ernie Adams, who decided that? Did not Patricia think too much of himself? Yeah, yeah, probably.
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I mean, I know a lot of the A lot of people in the NFL or a lot of people just in general.
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Sometimes they let that type of success go to their head.
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So I think he just hasn't overly inflated ego, and maybe it's because he's doing so poorly there.
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He's trying to show like what he's done in the past and kind of put himself more on a pedestal now that he's not having as much success.
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But, yeah, I don't know.
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I think he's definitely ah, little too egotistical with that one.
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So Detroit got embarrassed on Thursday, Another team who's actually competing for playoff spot and having a pretty decent season got embarrassed.
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On Sunday, the Las Vegas Raiders were absolutely destroyed by the Atlanta Falcons, 43 to 6.
00:28:12
Las Vegas is a team had five turnovers.
00:28:15
Derek Carr threw zero touchdowns, one interception and lost three fumbles.
00:28:21
If there was ever a time that a coach was gonna throw their quarterback in their team under the bus, it was this game.
00:28:29
And yet Jon Gruden, the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, has taken full accountability for this game.
00:28:36
He talked about not preparing his team enough.
00:28:39
He said turnovers and fumbles are on turnovers and penalties are on the coaching staff.
00:28:45
He blamed the coaching staff and himself multiple times.
00:28:49
Yes, he acknowledged, the players need to execute better.
00:28:52
But he blamed the coaching staff very Belichick in because Belichick is one need to coach better play, better do everything better.
00:29:02
Was this a refreshing.
00:29:03
Take considering what we've seen and I have other examples outside of a certain greatest of all time down in Florida.
00:29:10
I have other examples of people doing it.
00:29:12
What did you think of Grudin instead of throwing Derek Carr and his team under the bus after putting on five turnovers and having a ridiculous amount of penalties, taking accountability for him and his coaching staff? Hey, good, good for him, man.
00:29:24
My hat's off to him to actually take accountability there.
00:29:27
Obviously, he could've taken the easy way out and just said, Hey, they had five turnovers.
00:29:31
What do you want from May? But, you know, he came out and admitted that he could have coached better.
00:29:37
They could have prepared better.
00:29:38
I mean, and when you get blown out by that, it's not just one person, despite the fact that they had five turnovers.
00:29:45
I mean, they obviously weren't prepared, um, to take that type of a beating in a game, that they should have one.
00:29:51
Maybe they were just overlooking them.
00:29:52
They thought there was still be an easy victory on the schedule, and they didn't take it that seriously.
00:29:57
And that's on the coaches as well, but good for Jon Gruden, for putting it on himself instead of putting it on somebody else when he easily could have.
00:30:04
Now we've criticized Bruce Arians a lot for how much is put on Tom Brady.
00:30:08
Would this have been a situation, though? Do you think we would have been critical of Gruden for putting this on his quarterback in his players? Or do you think this would have been warranted if he wanted to turn around and say, We can't turn the ball over five times? The team played awful.
00:30:23
I think it would have been more warranted, especially because he's not somebody who comes out and says it all the time.
00:30:28
You know, you don't hear that from drunk, rude and often and because when you do turn the ball over five times, I mean it is on everyone when you lose by thirtysomething points.
00:30:37
But five turnovers is just ridiculous.
00:30:40
You can't turn the ball over five times and expect to win.
00:30:44
Speaking of someone who doesn't do it all the time, the L A Rams, who are fighting hard for a playoff spot, fell 23 to 22 absolutely decimated San Francisco 40 Niners team a day before it just found out they're not even be able to play in their home building this for like the next three games.
00:31:02
And they had four turnovers as well.
00:31:04
Jared Goff zero throwing touchdowns, two interceptions in 11 fumble lost.
00:31:10
And Sean McVeigh actually called him out to the media and talked about Jared Goff needing to take care of the football better.
00:31:18
Now Sean McVeigh has been probably the biggest Jared Goff cheerleader and has taken Mawr accountability than anybody else.
00:31:27
You think back to the Super Bowl when the Patriots defense just destroyed that offense, Sean McVeigh did not put it on a single one of his players or Jared Goff.
00:31:35
Con's completely put it on himself.
00:31:38
Are you surprised to hear Sean McVeigh call out golf? Because golf has had these kind of performances before? And Sean McVeigh hasn't done it right? Right? Yeah, definitely.
00:31:47
I mean, at this point, it might just be frustrating boiling over, or at this point, he doesn't know what else to say.
00:31:53
So he says, Hey, I'll try and let a fire under his button go out there in kind of trash into the media little bit and say he needs to take care of the football better.
00:32:02
And hopefully that you know incentivizes them or, you know, gets gets him pumped up to play better and Thio to take care of the football better.
00:32:10
But he has been his biggest cheerleader over time, so I'm definitely surprised to hear him say that.
00:32:15
So it's really funny you went there and I want to go a little bit further when you talked about Maybe this will light a fire because, yeah, I mean, if you're Jared Goff and you're sitting there and hearing Sean McVeigh calling you out for not taking care of the football after the guy's been waving his pom poms for you for the last three years as Jared Goff you not a point that you have no choice but to play lights out next week.
00:32:37
Yeah, yep, this is a huge test for Jared Goff, and you know, he's been very volatile.
00:32:43
He's had some really bad weeks like last week, and he's had some incredible weeks where he throws for 400 yards.
00:32:50
So I would I would think he has to come out and rise to the challenge especially with him really scrapping for a playoff spot.
00:32:56
It's on him this week.
00:32:57
He has to come out and have one of those huge lights out games that he's had Now.
00:33:02
I've openly admitted that I'm bitter about Tom Brady leaving the Patriots and heading over to Tampa.
00:33:09
I have a little bit of Ah, chuckle on a laugh to myself when I think about him having tension inside the locker room with Bruce Arians, because that's exactly why he left New England looking for some validation, looking for a pat on the back, cause me? No, Belichick wouldn't give it to him.
00:33:25
And yet he's getting sort of the same treatment in Tampa Bay.
00:33:29
The only difference.
00:33:30
Being Bruce Arians is a bit of an *******, and he's doing it publicly.
00:33:34
Bill Belichick never did it publicly.
00:33:36
He kept that within the locker room.
00:33:38
And yet this week, Tom Brady was asked about his relationship with his coach, and he openly supported his teammates and his coaches.
00:33:47
This week, we know that that's not how Bill or how Tom Brady feels right now, but he never publicly called out Bill Belichick, either.
00:33:56
What do you think of Tom Brady is a professional that here he is constantly being called out in public.
00:34:01
They talked and they were asking him about Bruce Arians still making him run a different offense and not running his offense.
00:34:07
Should Tom Brady have turned around and said, You know what? I am more accomplished.
00:34:13
I am bigger than him.
00:34:14
I'm I'm the one who brought him in because apparently that tension comes into We brought you Gronk.
00:34:20
We brought you a B and you're still not getting the job done.
00:34:22
You know what should break If you were Tom Brady, What do you Did he do the right thing? Or should he have said something publicly and finally shut Bruce Arians up? I think he did do the right thing.
00:34:33
I think if he wants to say something to Bruce Arians, he should say it in private.
00:34:36
You know what I mean It before he airs it out to the media despite Sorry.
00:34:40
Sorry, but hasn't Bruce Arians lost that right by airing all the public? Are all the dirty laundry to the public already? Yeah, that's that is a statement.
00:34:48
Despite the fact that Bruce Arians runs to the media every time they lose.
00:34:52
I feel like he can't wait to get on there.
00:34:54
And he's like while we lost our quarterback played terrible in It's It's dumbfounded to me some of the stuff that he comes out and says after losses.
00:35:03
But Brady good for him.
00:35:05
Stay professional, man.
00:35:06
Just talk to him about it in private, you know, because I don't know.
00:35:11
It's not.
00:35:12
Probably not the time when you're trying to fight for a playoff spot to get into a ****ing match with their coach in the media.
00:35:18
Well, I'm gonna say this, Carter.
00:35:19
This turned out to be a pretty good show.
00:35:21
All considered you had to deal with Covic.
00:35:24
I'm ****ed.
00:35:25
I'm ****y today.
00:35:26
I'm a little *****y and ****y today.
00:35:28
I had a pretty intense Rays uses rant over on YouTube.
00:35:32
Then we had technical difficulties before you go on.
00:35:35
But I think this turned out pretty good.
00:35:38
So before we can ruin anything, do you have anything left to say to the people? Patriots are only five games away, man.
00:35:44
One game closer.
00:35:46
One game closer.
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