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You've got my co host at Sam Daring.
And we have a special guest.
Mr Garrett from Allah.
How are you this fine Saturday afternoon.
Oh, doing pretty good.
We got rid of all the kids for the weekend, wayside.
We rearrange the living room.
So that's what I've been doing with morning.
All right, that's that's great to hear my co host, Sam.
How is your Saturday afternoon gone? So far? I'm doing well.
We got back this afternoon from visiting my family for Thanksgiving, so it's into today's topics.
So we're going to re kept what went wrong with the Green Bay Packers.
As we all know, Green Bay Packers lost 34 to 31 overtime against the Indianapolis Colts last week, which moves their record down to seven and three.
They still hold first in the NFC North, but they fell down to the third seed in the NFC, and we'll see how they fare right there.
And then we'll talk about the upcoming match up between the Chicago Bears and we have a Bears fan Mr Garrick Air from Iowa, Big Weapon of Chicago Sports and of the Iowa Hawkeyes as well.
Let's get into we lost a heartbreaker and overtime put forward to 31.
What what went wrong with the agreement? Packers and weak alone.
Mhm their defense.
And I remember talking to you about this. Like after the game.
Mike Patton did such a good job against the Houston Texans a few weeks back because the week before, um, Dalvin Cook went off against us.
My friends got to go and I was checking.
I don't know if you've got you checking Packers Twitter.
Throughout the game, they were heated.
They were heated, the defense was the problem.
And NBS MBS got death threats that may be embarrassed to be a Packer fan right there.
Um, and I believe what everyone every Packer fan has been wanting him to do for so long, and his staff might not jump jump out at you.
He's making those crucial plays, one bad play, one bad play that I would even say that cost us the game because he got us the overtime.
I blame Mawr of that loss on the defense, and I I'm more frustrated with that loss because that game was in our hands.
That game was 100% in our hands, and our defense blows the lead and with with the amount of talent that we have, yes, our secondary isn't great, but it's certainly developing and it's very promising and we've seen flashes of promise.
But the talent that we have, we should be a top 10 defense.
Like the first few games of the season.
We were ranked like top 10 just outside the top 10, and now I think we're like in the top 2020 to 25 range.
If I'm not mistaken, I have to double check.
But Mike Pence has got to go.
Um, and I I don't even think the offense is the problem.
And this whole narrative of the Packers should have drafted drafted a wide receiver.
Clearly, that's not the issue that Z 150 per 1000%.
The defense, the run defense and Kenny Stills just got cut yesterday from the Texans.
The Packers did work out Tavon Austin.
Um, that would be a really nice and I think Tyler and might be hurt s I think that probably played a factor.
He'll be a really nice return man.
I'm guessing we might cut Daria Shepherd, but our offense, in my opinion, has been it was the least of our issues in that game.
We did see a few mistakes, obviously, the NBS frustration with that fumble that 100%.
But should he have gotten death threats? No, not at all.
He got us over time.
He is the reason that we were in that game and were sent over time.
Yeah, I would truly agreed.
Well, I mean, you look at the Green Bay offense, you score 31 points against the top break defense in the NFL.
That is an offensive story.
I think what we did as an office was a fantastic job.
We only scored three points in the second half, which I think the floor has to get better at having a consistent offense from start to finish.
But you scored 31 points against top break defense.
That's impressive in itself and overall it was just our defense way let down and you are probably correct in saying that, Sam but we also have to too many too many turnovers you can't have four turnovers and beat good teams now, you could have four turnovers and beat Jacksonville because they're just a 11 team.
But if you have four turnovers against good teams like a Tampa Bay or in Indianapolis, that's not gonna let it fly because they have better in quarterbacks that have been there and done that and know how toe exploit their mistakes.
I think out of the four turnovers that we had when we were for the interception, I think that resulted in even even those three points, points or points.
That could have been a drive where read, they could have had something going.
And then, of course, you had the botched snap where we were moving the ball down the field at the early point of the game, and then Lindsay and Rogers Bosch snap culture cover.
And then on top of that, you know, you're only hanging on by a thread.
I believe we're only up by 11 at this point, and then Shepherd fumbles the return.
And then, of course, the in overtime, first playing the game of overtime, it looked great.
I believe it was a year had passed the Jones and then it was a sniffle little screen pass through the receiver which work for us all.
I mean, we I mean, we ran that same play with e que when he did the hurdle, and it was a big game.
We did the same play with Davante.
Adams got to touch on out of it.
So you do the same play with MVS and it just don't happen.
The defense snuffed it out, and the ball was how to NVs his hands.
Now, one thing I will say, if that was further down the territory, like if we were obviously at, like, midfield or maybe the Colts 40 or 30 yard line.
Granted, I would be disappointed.
Fumble, But I once had been as worried, but because it was the second play of overtime and we're at our own 30 yard line and envious fumbles.
When the Colts recovered there in field goal range, that's essentially the game was over.
So I was just disappointed on that kind of front and I was disappointed how we're up at 14 at halftime and it just seemed like we couldn't generate anything as an office and I think this game proved that the Colts are are legit team.
Like I think Sam and I, you and I discussed beforehand.
Whoever wins this game between the Colts and the Packers are gonna be talked about as as a legit team the rest of the season.
That just so happened to be Smaltz.
And now the Colts have have a lot of talk about them, potentially being a team that could make a deep run. Maybe not.
They're definitely team that people are going to sleep on, that is for sure, and I'll kind of give you some points.
Garrett, if you watch the Packers Colts game being a neutral fan, what were your thoughts off that game? I was more impressed with envy that disappointed in Green Bay because they just they refused to go away in that game and definitely been down and out, or both were turning out a couple of games of the season.
They just stay in and refused to go and yeah, I agree with you.
They started it into a game and he had called luck or whatever, but they definitely put themselves in a position to win, and we're able to capitalize on the opportunities.
Yes, they definitely were.
And what me? What may be so disappointed in the second half? Was they legit? The Colts started off in the second half.
They gave the ball to Jonathan Taylor.
Six great times, and they started.
I believe it was their own 25.
They moved it all the way down to Green Bay territory.
I was just like, Oh, great.
Now they're deciding to run it.
And we have probably one of the worst run defense in the NFL, and now they're starting starting to movie.
So, overall, let's hope for Green Bay bounces back against this week.
12 opponents foreshadowing than night, Sunday Night Football, one of the greatest rivalries and NFL history.
In my opinion, the Green Bay Packers will face up against the Chicago Bears first matchup this season that they will play.
The next matchup will obviously be in Week 17, but Week 12 coming up between the Bears and the Packers, the Bears had a bye week last week, mhm coming off of either losses or losing streaks.
Look at the Bears.
They started five and one, and they have lost four straight games entering their bye week, Green Bay, coming off of a devastating loss to the Indianapolis Colts.
Like Sam said had in the bag.
But let it slip away.
Let's talk about the upcoming match up.
So let let's go over who we believe on.
The Green Bay Packers is going to have a good game.
I'll start off with with you, Sam from the Green Bay Packers. Often.
Who do you believe is gonna be the player of the game for the Green Bay Packers? I'm gonna go Erin Jones on this one.
Um, and obviously, like I do think I was telling you about this before we went on the air.
I think out of all the teams in the NFC North, I think the Packers and the Bears fair up the best with each other.
I heard that I should say the Packers fair up the best with the Bears because the bear struggling offense versus the Packers struggling defense.
The Packers top notch offense.
Yeah, we don't have like, elite receivers outside of Davante Adams, but there's still I mean, Rogers has proven time and time again now in the Zog, for example, that we don't need a great receiver to be, um, in elite offense, a top notch offense versus arguably, in my opinion of top 10 defense.
But they don't has been certain games throughout the course of the season for the Bears that they're on defense has struggled.
Um, and I think we could.
I think they're gonna potentially take advantage of the run game earlier on.
But I think the secretary for the Bears is very underrated.
Jaylin Johnson is having a very impressive rookie campaign.
I think over the first few games of the season, hey was one of the highest rated rookie corners.
Um, I think he's like he's playing better than Jeff Okuda right now because Jeff Okuda has been on and off all season.
He's been he has been beat.
Um, I don't know, because I've seen plays and I don't know if it's place where he's just he's not fast enough or he doesn't open up his hips and anticipate the routes.
Um, quick enough to the receivers as quick enough to the receivers ability to the to the with the ability of the receiver, I should say.
But I'm gonna go Erin Jones on this one.
I don't think I don't think there's gonna be anyone in this on our offense is gonna go off, but I think Erin Jones is going to stand out.
Definitely makes some good points that I want to go.
Ask the Bears fan. Garrett.
Who do you think the Chicago Bears kind of defense should fear most on the Packers office? I mean, I realize it's kind of the easy pick, but I disagree with Sam on the run.
I think the Bears have been pretty good against the run, and their only hope toe win this game is to stop the run and make Aaron Rodgers stroke with his 50 50 proposition at best.
I mean, you can still definitely boost the game that way.
But Rodgers I mean, look at the Tampa Bay game and even at points in the end, the game.
If you put all the pressure on him, he can be forced into the turning the ball over, making some bad decisions.
It's not a guaranteed thing.
That's pretty much the only hope the Bears have.
It's the key on Erin Jones and not make them throw the ball, uh, at least twice Bunches.
Ira Oh, it's good.
I think Rogers and make him have a game, definitely some good points there for my offensive player of the game.
Well, the point you guys made, I am gonna also go with Garrett and say, Aaron Rodgers, I mean, the reason being is kind of, you know, just Rogers has to play great.
Keep playing good gets him there.
But I think everything kind of relies on Aaron Rodgers from that offense.
Granted, Erin Jones.
He's a fantastic piece of the offense.
So, Sam, I I would think if I had to pick another player, Aaron Jones would be the next option.
But I just think from a top perspective, everything goes with Rogers.
If he can get if he could get it going, if the offensive line can can shut down that, that Bears front.
I think Green Bay is in for a great game.
But, like Garrett said, if the Bears defense could apply pressure to Aaron Rodgers, we've seen and in instances against Tampa Bay against Minnesota and even against Indianapolis, if you apply pressure, you know they're going to find a way to Ronald Rodgers.
So I think for Aaron Rodgers, he's even my offensive player of the game, and he just has to show some great promise, some great poise in the backfield.
And hopefully he could deliver some good dimes like like he normally does, who we believe will have have the most impressive game from the Packers defense.
I'll start off first by saying by my defensive player of the game or the Green Bay Packers is gonna be the Darius Smith.
I feel like Za'darius Smith needs to have a good game.
Granite Robiskie is coming back, but I think with almost any quarterback, if you don't have any pressure and you could go into a rhythm, you know they're gonna be in for a good day.
He makes him uncomfortable, kind of make a move them around them, throw passes quicker than anticipated.
I can agree babies in for for a good day.
So I'm gonna go with Darius Smith as my defensive player in the game, and then I'll ask, I'm gonna go with the special guest.
Garrett, if you are the Bears offense, who would you not want? Thio.
Have a great game on that Packers defensive side of the ball.
It's gonna be the D line and I don't really care which one of them sets up, but somebody, it's anybody on that.
The line steps up or the D line as a unit and keeps Tra Biscuit contain and blows up the run game, which in all honesty isn't really a tall order concerning the shape of the Bears offensive line.
But as long as the D line steps up, performs this game is gonna be a really rough came for the Bears to win and be this kind of just cause Strabinsky the reason he's starting.
I mean, obviously there's the injury, but he's a lot more mobile than pulls.
So with the holes in the offensive line, they're hoping for a biscuit could move around and elude sacks and make plays happen.
So the deal. I just have to stop that from happening.
We'll definitely see what that happens there.
Then I'll close it up with you.
Sam, Who do you believe is gonna be your Green Bay Packers defensive player of the game before I answer that question? The Detroit Lions have announced today that Mac attrition and Bob Quinn had been relieved of their duties, So Matt Patricia is fired.
I obviously expected this to happen.
I didn't expect them toe wait.
I expected them to wait until end of the season.
But I like to move.
I'm gonna assume they're just going to go with an interim guy for the rest of the season, but yeah, Matt, Patricia's out.
GM Bob Quinn is out s o.
Now the Raiders have built that team bringing in Patriots skiing players.
Eso That's gonna be an interesting team to watch.
See who goes in, um, Gold in Atlanta.
Head coaching job over there.
I think it should be an offensive line coach, but I'm gonna agree with Garrett and the D line.
What we going to say something right? That that really surprised that I did not expect that to happen in season? I figured it was gonna be an interesting offseason, but yeah, that's yeah.
W g M in your head, coach in the middle of the season.
That's definitely a statement moved by the ownership.
I'm gonna go with the D line.
Kenny Clarke, um, bears have dealt with, um I think I'm not mistaking Bobby Mass.
He was on the I r Jason Spriggs.
Matt and I remember him very well.
Um, traded up for him in the second round from the Mistaken um, he was on the Covad list.
I think this was like as of like november 5th, I haven't checked the stats since.
The Bears have have a lot of the ninth most ninth most *** in the NFL under their offensive line, and David Montgomery last season showed a lot of promise.
Andi he struggled against top defense is and one of the games that stood out was the colt.
But I'm gonna go with the line.
Um, and I'm gonna go specifically Kenny Clarke.
Definitely some some good points there.
And But before we move on to to the bear side, samu brooks out some big news about that.
Patricia and Bob Quinn being relieved of their duties for Detroit.
Let's kind of let's kind of get into that a little bit.
Obviously, Sam, you said your your thoughts, your thoughts about it.
I believe it's a good move for Detroit.
I think Detroit finally did the right thing and relieve them of their duties.
Obviously, as as all of us are from the north, were a little disappointed because Detroit actually did the right thing for the first time in their franchise.
So maybe maybe they're on.
They're on the upswing of some sort.
But I think I think it's something good for Detroit.
Maybe that could be a sense of them blowing it up.
Maybe they look at it and say We relieve the head coach and the G m.
You know, we're not going anywhere this season.
I kind of wanna throw in the question.
Do you think that means key veterans like Matthew Stafford could be on their way out the door during the off season? Then whoever wants to answer first came.
I would say there's a very strong possibility of that.
It kind of sucks with Stafford because I think he's a really good quarterback and you've just been wasted in Detroit.
But you see the same thing with the Bears and a lot of teams.
New GM especially, and even new coaches.
At some point, they like that, their guys, and so I definitely see this being a full bloom, tear down rebuild It expected not to be good in 2021 Nick moves, make some trades, do some drafting and come out with the goal of being, uh, contender for the division in 2022.
Yeah, and I think they should have.
I think they should have traded Stafford when they had the chance.
I mean, there were rumors even last year when they could have potentially went out and got Herbert from them for a Herbert on Lions traded Stafford, right? Patricia's time in Detroit Because, like, this is a theme, that mathematicians worker, This is the best defense that he's worked with ever.
And you're bringing in all these guys from Patriots scheme.
And I've talked about this with that Matt Patricia, I think, at the hottest seat in the NFL, I've obviously, if you disregard Adam, guess because everyone knows that, um, gazes on the hot seat all the time.
But if you disregard Adam gays, I think Matt Patricia is the hottest state in the NFL.
I do think there is a possibility.
We do see Matthew Stafford.
Um, in trade bait.
I wouldn't be surprised shortly after the season.
Um, if we start seeing rumors, maybe potentially not have not happened, see Matthew Stafford.
Trade rumors heat out, but I think that the lines are smart.
They go out and get an offensive.
Offensive minded coach Andre continue to be competitive, though, because there aren't terrible.
I mean, the bears one what? Seven and nine with a top defense and the struggling missed Robiskie A Thank you, Um, and the Vikings have Dalvin cook.
But, I mean, I think that I think staffers the best The second best quarterback in the understand North I'd much rather have Stafford than Kirk Cousins.
But, um, yeah, I mean, there gonna be e I think there was that.
I was just laughing.
Yeah, I'll take Stafford over because E seven days a week points on Sunday.
I mean, we've seen you see a lot more inconsistency and Kirk than you do have.
Stafford and I remember the Lions posted a video of Rogers, um, applauding and praising the talent of Matthew Stafford.
He said that there's one quarterback, his very talented.
He's so good and he goes on notices because he's on the Detroit Lions.
He says Matthew Stafford s o.
I mean, Matthew Stafford might be another big name that's gonna heat up in terms of the quarterbacks, but I would be too surprised if they stick with him I think they should have traded him when they had the chance.
Yeah, I definitely agree that as well.
Even I was watching the Thanksgiving game.
I saw him, Matthew Stafford throw from his own about 25 the ball carried all the way to the Texan 30 yard line.
It was an incomplete pass, but I'm just like God.
If that were Pat Mahomes, Rogers or Wilson sling in that throw they would be talking about.
But because it's Stafford and he's on the Lions, that really doesn't anything they could do.
In my opinion, I felt they should have traded Stafford about two years ago.
I remember when, when they had the eighth pick in the draft, I kind of threw out a crazy scenario.
What if the Detroit Lions trade Stafford, Trey Stafford and draft half Haskins with the eighth pick? Honestly, we know Haskins now.
Is it really a good quarterback now? But like before, when he was all the hype, I'm like Detroit's not really going anywhere in this division.
Why don't they just sell? Sell? Now, get there, get there Q B at eight, you know, take a couple of years to build with the quarterback, gave him the weapons and see what happens.
Obviously, we know.
With the eighth pick, they decided, take TJ Hawkinson, which has shown good flashes.
But last time they drafted tight in the first round is Eric Ebron, and we all know how Eric Ebron turned out.
The light asked, Didn't really work out well, goes to Indy, has a phenomenal year.
Sales at me again.
Goes to Pittsburgh and he's have ah, OK year in Pittsburgh plot.
You know, we'll see what.
What Detroit does is definitely gonna be interesting now that they're GM and head coach is gone.
And, you know, I feel like Lions fans, if there are, if there are any, are probably ecstatic because now that leaves an opening for potentially Eric B.
Enemy, which is probably the biggest name for a head coaching head coaching job available.
That's just now another team open.
You know, if you could either possibly go to Atlanta and have Matt Ryan as his Q B possibly go to Houston and have to Shawn Watson has his Cube charter. Maybe.
Yeah, maybe if Anthony Lynn gets fired.
If Anthea Linen gets fired, go to the Chargers and have Justin Herbert.
Do you imagine Herbert and the enemy with how good that offenses charges could be a legit team? Also, if the Jets decide toe make the best decision in five case, you have the Jets open, and now you got Detroit and Detroit's one of those teams where anything might look at many, they might look at themselves and say, Hey, we're gonna do her coaching.
There were like and the enemy We keep our same offense.
We got Stafford and Holiday fully healthy.
They could make a run.
So it'll be interesting to see what what Detroit does, not what they do in the off season, but that just made their offseason.
Ah, heck of a lot more interesting now that they fired their head coach and GM now rather than prior to prior to their their season ending.
They also have Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones up.
I think they're smart.
They keep Kenny Golladay.
Marvin Jones was popping up all over trade deadline.
I think I don't remember if I talked about a few Matt you.
Otherwise, my other podcasts, um, potential packers trade deadline targets being Marvin Jones.
But Marvin Jones was, um, Marvin Jones Name was popping up in trade deadline targets about a month ago.
Struggled to stay healthy this season.
McKenney Gallery, in my opinion, is the second best receiver in the North.
I would take Kenny Golladay over Adam feeling.
Kenny Golladay and DeAndre Hopkins are two of the few receivers in the NFL that can put up elite numbers With not, they're starting with their starting quarterback, not throwing the ball.
Kenny Golladay had David Blough.
Hopkins had at one point Brandon Weeden throwing the ball, and he's still putting up those elite numbers.
I think they're smart.
They keep Kenny Golladay.
Kenny Golladay, I think, is their long term answer there.
Future of their wide receiver position.
Um, and I think that's potentially because we've seen my I've seen plenty of marks off.
I think a lot of that wide receiver position is gonna depend on who they keep.
I don't see them keeping both.
I think they're gonna sign Candy Golladay.
That's a question for you.
I don't know how much you guys are on Twitter, but do you think it's before after the Packer game that Matthew Stafford to the Bears campaign starts on floor.
Yeah, because it happens every time a quarterback is even potentially.
Maybe a trade piece bears all things Guy, there's Twitter.
I mean, not there's organization.
I would I would say, I would say after the Well, I think it depends.
I mean, if somehow some way.
There's a true basically flashback of 2018, and he just looks like a different beast where the Bears fans white like, Okay, we'll give him another game.
Hey, maybe you have another channel.
But if he's struggling, if he's struggling like first or second quarter, I think you might see the halftime games like, Hey, why don't you treat it while you trade? Maybe competing trickle of back No E oh, yeah, E a e would have been sitting here calmly if he was suggested.
It could, well, e themselves e Oh, yeah.
But do you think Stafford to the Bears will be calling halftime? We're in a game, we're going to say after I mean, look at the ASU's.
After the Packers drafted Jordan love, we were seeing Ope Aaron Rodgers to the Patriots.
All barren Rogers to the Chicago bears eso I'm gonna heat up.
It's not gonna happen.
What's that? I personally hate air just to the very I don't want.
You want a young quarterback? E that and I just don't like Rogers.
Girl said to me he like Rogers because Eric attitude, which I guess is understandable because sometimes on the on the sideline, he does have How about a little bit of one? But it comes the one where I finally enjoy it, especially, you know, if he's just picking apart.
Defense is left and right.
Let's go into the Chicago Bear side of things.
Look at the Chicago Bears going on this game, obviously.
Ah, lot of a lot of non Bears fans.
Father Bears record of a five and one and like their total front, they be Giants.
They'd be the choking Falcons.
Let's see, who else will they be? They beat Detroit because the rookie DeAndre Swift dropped the ball and then they They're one big game was against the Colts, and they faltered against the Colts.
Way did beat Tampa back.
Everybody thought the Bears air back every thought.
The Bears air back to 2018 form was against Tampa Bay when they made Tom Brady looked like a fool and you do the fourth down when when he said his fourth down, When the game was over, everybody was like, Oh, dude, this is it.
I mean, part of their friends like, Yo, we just beat Tom Brady and Soldier Field.
The Bears are back, Baby party like it's 1985 were back, Baby 23 16 like, Yo, let's go five and one And the Packers just got demolished by Tampa Bay.
We're back, baby.
And then **** hit the fan.
Go up against the Rams on Monday Night Football.
There were probably two plays where it falls, hits it on the money.
Bears probably scored two touchdowns as different game.
They lose that one, and they're like, Okay, you know, five and two.
You can't win them.
All five and two is okay, Go up against the Saints, lose them over time to the Saints.
I mean, for the Bears friend from Texas, and you're like, all right, you know, it's tough.
Five and three, but it's the New Orleans Saints here.
There's still a good team, but the last two losses.
Tennessee in Minnesota heartbreaking loss.
I mean, you look at the last three Bears.
Losses have been by three points.
Seven points, six point No, look, the Bears air right there just now.
You're five and five.
They have their bye week.
Now they're preparing for the Green Bay Packers.
And let's go into the the offensive side of the ball.
So I'll start up with you, Garrett.
Who do you believe will be the Bears offensive player of the game will be or has to be to keep the Bears in the game with game? Um, it's gonna have to be Strabinsky.
Uh, the Bears don't have an offensive line that's not going to change.
And with Robiskie be more mobile.
He's just he's gonna have to have a hell of a game.
He's gonna have to get outside.
He's gonna have to make throws David get theirs in this game.
So, yeah, this one's gonna be on Mitch that Yeah, there's gonna winner type of his play this week.
We'll definitely Why was there? What about you, Sam? From the Packers defensive side, Who would you be the most fearful of? Of having a good game for the bears? I I agree with Travis Key, but there's one matchup that I think should be talked about.
That's Ellen Robinson versus General Alexander.
And I think Alan Robinson is playing very well this year, and I think it's going unnoticed because of the quarterback situation.
He hasn't he hasn't Blake Bortles stolen from the ball in the NFC title game.
His his career, his first in 2015.
He put up, had 1000 yard season and the Jakes went feminine was the last.
And Allan Robinson, I think, is one of the most underrated wide receivers in the NFL, and his town goes unnoticed.
Allen Robinson is up for a contract.
I've heard I have had one or two friends tell me they think he's gonna leave for a better quarterback situation.
I think the Bears would be stupid to let him walk.
I think it's gonna be mixture, basically the guy that they're gonna have to rely on playing Well, I mean, I mean, from the looks of bears, Twitter, it seems like they got what they wanted, right? I mean, they wanted everyone wanted mixed Robiskie playing.
They wanted full bench e seen it both ways.
Nick Foles was hurt, I think two weeks ago, right? Yeah.
He didn't practice this week, right? Um and they assumed was the bears traded for Nick Foles? They were saying, Oh, but it's looking like they're not gonna keep them for the long or pick up Stravinsky's fifth year option.
Um, but yeah, I mean, off season stuff could be stuff, another conversation.
But I also have Robiskie.
However, don't overlook the Allen Robinson versus J.
Yeah, the only thing I have to say that it's to business gotta give himself more than two seconds in the pocket if he wants.
If Alan Robinson is going to be a factor, because no, I agree with everything you said Arab definitely underrated.
I unfortunately, I'm in the group.
I don't think he's coming back to the Bears that an opportunity to extend him early in the season and they did not.
So there's a little bit of bad blood there.
I think I don't have anybody inside there's locker room, but that seems to be the general consensus.
So fact, whether or not this Kikkan by himself, time to throw the ball to him.
I'm definitely good points there.
I'm gonna go with the wall card in there.
We'll go up the running background. Go.
The reason being is because the Packers run defense is just atrocious, full on mediocrity at its finest.
In my honest opinion, the Green Bay Packers run defense there on Lee.
Good game, in my opinion, that they have had as a run defense was probably against the Texans in Week seven.
Other than that, every other team that has played us has had a good running game.
Dalvin Cook twice.
Obviously, we know even in the Detroit game, week to in the first.
They look like they're running the ball down the field very well against us.
Obviously, the Saints Alvin Kamara had his career game, and then we look at Atlanta.
Todd Gurley scored two touchdowns on us.
Obviously, Tampa Bay, we know, is what happens with the Tampa Bay.
I mean, if I were throwing another game, maybe did well because I mean, but that was because they put us, didn't have anybody.
The Niners pretty much had the starters and most of the second string hurt and then other than that, I was back.
We saw what the Colts did.
They did some damage as well.
So I'm going with David Malcolm, just just for the fact that the run defense has not been good all year.
They've had bright spots, maybe about two or three teams this year, and we look at the Bears.
They got David Montgomery to repeal it.
If they could get a run game early in this game, the Green Bay Packers could have problems Now.
I don't think the Packers offense is a problem, because I mean, you scored 31 points against the top defense in the NFL.
You know that your offense is perfectly fine.
Is just the Achilles heel year in and Europe the last two years for the package.
R. Kelly's heel has been the run defense.
I mean, how did the Packers lose the energy championship game last year? Because the Runde, how did we lose to most of these teams because they all run defeat? What's the main problem with agreement? Packer's defense This year, Randi on defense has been the old, the old slogan for the Green Bay Packers.
And if this run defense concertos oh up and have a legit Have a great game from start to finish, Not just the first half, not just a quarter from start to finish that maybe this defense could could propel us on a deep run.
Now, I personally think that we're gonna go, We're going if we make it to, you know, division on our championship game.
But if you want to make it to the upper echelon to a Super Bowl, it potentially hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
This run defense is gonna have to step up.
And I think this is a game where the run defense needs to step up big and has to shut down David Montgomery.
Or else it's gonna be the same song and dance.
Green Bay Packers get the win.
But the run defense is still a liability, like it has been all season.
So I'm going David Montgomery.
Just because of how much of a problem are run defense has been all year.
Let's move on to God.
Jump in real quick on that.
Yeah, just it's gonna come back to the D line like we were talking earlier because my memory is currently ranked 31st in the NFL for yards before contact and 13th for yards after he has 145 yards before, 208 yards after.
So it's just it's not gonna depend on how fast the defense of Blind could get to him.
If he get two yards before he gets hit, he's gonna be averaging 56 yards a carry.
If he keeps getting hit two yards deep like he has been, there is still gonna be getting six yard runs.
But he's only gonna end up with positive in order to.
So that's gonna be a big factor on how you run defense reforms, is how quickly they get them out of memory because you let him dangerous.
Yeah, he definitely is a dangerous back.
We'll see how the Packers run defense handles, and from there, let's go on the defense side of the ball for the Chicago Bears.
I'll start off with you, Sam, on that Bears defense.
Who would you be most concerned with? That could potentially wreck this game for the Packers office.
I mean, to me, I don't think this one's hard.
I think it's clear back.
Um, I think another guy that has I feel like he's been heating up in training camp in terms of if they want to pick up his option.
But he's actually played pretty well this year, and that's really pick a guy not named Khalil Mack.
I might go broke on Smith, but I think the pass rush could, um, potentially cause a little bit of chaos.
But we've got the best left tackle in football and one of the best past protectors in football.
Um, at his position.
Indeed, Bachtiar E S O.
And Elton Jenkins has been nothing short of impressive Throat is, um, in his second year.
But I'm gonna go with Khalil Mack here.
I'll then ask the Bears fan, Mr Garrett, I'm a good I'm sorry for the Bears defense to step up and stop Aaron Rodgers.
Who's gonna be the key beneficiary? I'm gonna go Jaylin Johnson just cause Aaron Rodgers just just like him. There's no disguising.
There's no denying his talent and just his football mind.
And it doesn't matter what Khalil Mack does if the secondary isn't keeping his options limited and taking away options for where he's going to throw the ball.
So I mean, I definitely think that Camille Khalil back could have a better stat game.
But the only reason Khalil Mack or any of those defensive linemen have a big game is that Jaylin Johnson, the rest of the secondary, keep passing options limited for Rogers and forced him to making the bad throws where he sacks mhm.
Definitely good points there.
I am going to go with the different player.
I'm gonna go with Eddie Jackson.
I'm gonna go with Eddie Jackson just because I mean, obviously we know freak of nature that that Khalil Mack is.
I mean, the Bears traded two first round picks and gave them the biggest extension for a defensive player.
Two man before Aaron, Donald one up there.
So obviously, Khalil Mack is gonna have a great game.
I feel like five picks besides Eddie Jackson.
It would be clear, Mac, but I'm also going to kind of take the approach of what Garrett said.
The secondary has to be key as well.
I mean, obviously, if you pressure Aaron Rodgers, you know you're gonna have yourself a good game.
But what if you still pressure Rogers and he's still delivers perfect throws because the secondary bad, then it's like Okay, you get Russia quarterback cool, but Roger could get it quick out of his hands, maybe a short, short, 23 yard pass.
But that short 23 yard pass could turn into a gain of eight or 10 yards.
That's first downs moving the chain dollar field, and who knows what happens there? I want Eddie Jackson just because I expect the Bears to double the Vontae Adams because that's pretty much the only received that we have.
Obviously, you know Al Mazar Marquez about his gambling.
They showed flashes.
They showed great flashes, but they're not really feared receivers like Davante Adams.
Like Davante Adams in my home of the pain is the top three receiver in the NFL.
You can't name me three other receivers besides putting into phantoms like my humble opinion goes Hopkins.
Then you gotta put Davante Adams in that conversation and then number three in my arms, no matter who the coordinators like.
Even when Davante Hines didn't have writers, we kind of saw him come on with Brett Hundley Brownlee for for for a little bit during that 2017 season.
So you know that's that.
That's kind of how I feel about that.
And you know if if Eddie Jackson has a great game, if he finds a way to shut down Davante items, then it throws a fork in the plan for the Packers game plan.
And we've seen when the Packers game plan doesn't work, they kind of seemed to falter a little bit.
I mean, are lost to Tampa Bay.
When Rodgers, through those two interceptions in Tampa, scored 14 points, it looks like our game plan was through the window.
It looked like the game was over half time and then against Minnesota when the game plan didn't work to stop the album Cook.
We ended up losing that game.
But then the game plan worked well in the first half against Indianapolis.
But something changed in the second half and this game playing the second half and half of that.
So this is the game to where if Eddie Jackson finds a way toe boil up the plan and and contains Davante Adams, then the Green Bay Packers offices in the world of hurt, because if the Monte atoms shut down the other receivers, Aaron consistent, they showed good flashes but not consistent, and then if that pass rush gets to him, it could be a recipe of disaster for for the Green Bay Packers.
But I love clear Mac.
I don't think you go along with Johnson either, so I mean, I think we're gonna be a good game.
I think it would be a close scoring game.
And let's kind of move on to our our honest opinion on whether our teams are going to win or lose.
So I'll ask the Bears.
Van Garrett, What's your honest opinion about the Bears? Do you think the Bears have a chance toe win this game, or do you think they're just going toe lose? Lose this? I think they're gonna lose.
I haven't seen a spread yet.
Uh, if it was like if you give me a 10 or 12 point spread, I would get the Bears to cover.
I just I don't really see a way forward for the Bears to win this game.
That the play calling.
There's issues with the play calling, and Nagy stepped away and handed it over to the O. C.
And that really appear to fix anything.
Verse the Vikings because the offense only put up six points and too many holes in the offensive line.
I don't really care who you have a quarterback when you can't block for him, and it's the same thing with Montgomery.
With Montgomery, he's a really good back.
But when you're getting hit two yards deep every time you're handed, the ball is kind of hard to have a productive day.
Uh, probably like 28 20 or like 35 21 somewhere in there, where because the Green Bay defense is a gorilla isn't great by any means, and I think the Bears will score some points.
I just don't think it will be enough to win the game, and the point spread right now is great, Babe.
Favored by minus 9.
5 as as, as of right now, where it stands on Saturday afternoon.
The point point spread right now is minus 9.5.
Packers are favored by all.
Then ask Ask you.
Oh, you're before I asked if Sam thinks that the back of the Bears have a chance to win Garrett the Bears when if the bear somehow win this game on Sunday night, what's gonna be the reason why they when they win the game on Sunday night, if they dio, it's gonna be the offensive line remembering how to block right? That's about the only thing that can happen.
Montgomery are both gonna have to have really good games in order to bears to win.
No, I don't see it happening, but if the offensive lineman, they don't even have to be great if they could just get Montgomery to the line of scrimmage and let him do it but hit his talent, take over after that and give Robiskie, you know, like four seconds to throw the ball.
Then the Bears could definitely be in.
I'll then ask Ask you this question.
Sam on his opinion.
Do you think the Packers can win this game on Sunday Night Football against the division rival Chicago? Babe e think they dio? And I think it will be, um, I think you know, I think I'm really interested to see how they fare up well against the against the Bears defense.
Because the Bears defense has shown plenty of flashes, their secondary is definitely I think they're very underrated.
Jaylin Johnson has been one of the most impressive cornerback rookie corners in this draft class.
I think I think the Packers win this game and I'm gonna go 27 to 17, 27 17.
That's definitely a good score. Prediction.
I honestly think the package could win this game as well.
Packers Air, 73 But coming off a tough loss against the Indianapolis Colts, I think if the Packers won to maintain conversation of being potential the number one seed, I think this is a must win game.
Not not not from the standpoint of making the playoffs.
But if Green Bay wants to have a chance on getting them but one seed in the NFC with its gonna be hard to get because, obviously, you're you're the third seed right now.
Look at the same star rating to they look good even without Breeze.
Even without Drew Brees, would Taysom Hill in there? He looked great as a Q B as well.
We saw how good the Rams looked, and if the Rams and keep it up and they could somehow win the NFC West, we already see that they have the tiebreaker against us.
So Green, based essentially in a situation toe, where these final six games of the season.
If you want a chance with one seed, you pretty much gonna win every single one of them.
And for Green Bay, you have some tough games coming up.
You've got division rivals twice.
There's Alliance who always pull your top.
You got Philadelphia Granted, Philadelphia's banged up.
We said that last year when the package played the Eagles and Week four.
And what Hap Eagles went into Lambeau Field Week four and beat Green Bay.
So anything is possible there.
And then, on top of that Week 16 at Lambeau Field, you gotta verse the best running back in the NFL when you don't have a good run defense.
So it's gonna be tough game there for, For that matter, I'd say it's it's a must win for the Green Bay Packers.
I say the Packers win.
This game is well, I think they'll they'll win it with comfort and ease, Samu said.
I believe the Green Bay Packers.
We're gonna put up a If we could put out 31 points against the Indianapolis Colts defense, I think the Green Bay Packers, they're gonna score 35 points.
I think it's gonna be a final score of this kind of reminds me the Niners game.
I think it's gonna be one of those like 35 17 kind of games.
Where the Green Bay they keep it close throughout.
Most of the game might say through the first three quarters, but one.
The first quarter comes when the fourth quarter comes and shuts down.
There's honestly, my final scores.
Packers win San Final scores 27 to 17 Packers When Garrett could you repeat what your final score? Waas go 28 21 Packers 21 Packers On the route to that, I think it's gonna be like probably either 21 7 or 28.
They're like 28 to 7, something like that going into the fourth quarter and actors drop back in coverage and the Bears get some coverage. Time scores.
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See what what happens in this game.
I feel like it's gonna be an exciting Sunday Night football Packers Bears.
Obviously, you wish it had fans in the stands because whenever you got Sunday Night Football at Lambeau Field Packers Bears, that's that's always a crowd pleaser.
Everybody from from Green Bay, Wisconsin, love to show up to that game, and it's always a good sellout.
Always good to watch good division rivals play on Sunday Night Football underneath the lights.
Um, do you guys have any? Anything, anything else to add? Do you think Mitchell Travis Key gets a shot with another team and does? Well, I'll you start, start out Sam with that question.
Do you think Robiskie has has a shot at any other team as a starting quarterback Just getting resigned? Maybe not even necessarily as a starter, But I think I think he could be a reliable Q B two at the right price.
I don't see him as a starting quarterback on any other team.
No, I definitely agree.
Agree with Sam as well.
I think it's chances are very slim.
I mean, it could be a situation where he could resign, but I feel more as a backup kind of role.
I mean, it sucks because, you know it's a risk you know he's the number two overall pick, and you expect a lot more from a number two overall pick.
But you know, that's just one of those where just because you number two, uh, doesn't mean a thing you gotta play with.
Risky has it has a played Well, I do believe his days as a starter are numbered.
I feel like depending on how this terrible game, you probably won't be a start in the NFL.
If he has a good game, maybe he Maybe he survives another week.
But will he ever be a starter? I think that's that's to be determined.
I feel like it depends on the situation that he goes to.
Maybe if he goes to the Cowboys in the off season, has more of a backup.
Moreover, back up kind of guy, maybe take like a maybe go like a Teddy Bridgewater route, where maybe you go to a contending team as a backup and you know, if somebody gets hurt, you know, you fill in, and if you do well, maybe you could cash in cash in a payday and go from there.
But yeah, the answer to your question here I think I think he does have a chance to be with the team, but it will be as a backup, not as a starter, because I don't think there's a lot of talk about the Bears.
Decline is fifth year option, which I think is gonna happen.
But I think it's gonna be more of a mutual parting of ways than a where the Bears just tell him he has to go.
Just because if your mental Seabiscuit, you cannot be happy with how it's been going to Chicago and the argument can be made that he just has a big given the opportunity there.
They're probably saying I do looking for somewhere else to go on, and that means taking a backup role and having to prove yourself.
I mean, that's what you gotta do.
I I almost think Mitchell, with one out of Chicago, is more in Chicago, walked him out.
Uh, yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely saw some good points there being made.
Hopefully, true, whiskey can find somewhere somewhere else to succeed.
Uh, maybe has to be out of Chicago.
Maybe he could be a backup somewhere.
Maybe it's because of a chance to be a started.
Maybe he went to starting job.
You know, you never know what happens.
I mean, I think everybody thought for sure Tannehill was gonna bust in Miami, which he waas.
He goes to Tennessee.
They're two and four, they throw in 10 and we'll what happens? He gets red hot time to go 97 and they make it to the championship game and he cashes in with $100 million contract.
So anything is possible.
As long as Travis Key does well gets a new change of scenery, maybe we'll get a different Robiskie.
Maybe we'll get a head coach that knows how to utilize, utilize his skills and yeah, yeah, especially with the Tannehill comparison stand.
Hill is not a great quarterback.
He's just a good quarterback in the perfect system for the type of quarterback he is.
And I think it's a busy you could find a home like that.
He could definitely show maybe not second pick overall talent, but so that is a much better quarterback than the rap he's gotten in Chicago.
We left the see what happens with Travis Key there, and that my friend concludes this stream of the title town show.
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