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Welcome again to another episode of the dynamics podcast.
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Boy ruined the host here, man.
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So this is a midnight podcast.
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Ah, I had to get this off my chest, man.
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I'm gonna be talking about the Austin Rivers trade on.
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Um you know, the extra little sweetness they put on it and why? You know what I'm saying? So, without further ado, Dynex, podcast evil to any star. Let's go.
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So I'm doing this clutch boys article.
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Right? So let's just drop this on here. Swamp.
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Yeah, man, this is the article.
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We thought we just we were just getting Austin Rivers for, like, what was it, three million a year over three years, with two years not guaranteed.
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Sounds like a like a decent trade, but, I mean, they flipped it and made it a sign and trade, Uh, you know, to get more assets.
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But, you know, further review is like, why do we get these assets? You know, because we we ended up getting the rights to Sergio.
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Um, I don't know how to pronounce that in, you know, and and I'm and I'm freaking half Spanish man, so I can't really pronounce it.
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But Sergio, uh, low.
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Lolo, um you know, they also got a couple of other guys to that, that they're not even try Thio, translate.
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But somebody told me on on Twitter that that these guys might might even be retired.
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Now, the drug drug Djukanovic, whatever his name is and her her ville, whatever These guys might even be retired at this point way also gave away of the draft rights to Isuf Sanan.
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So that's a dude that I kind of was intrigued with.
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But, like like people are saying online, the guy doesn't have a left hand, You know what I'm saying? So he's just like a like, you know, he's just like a on athletic guy, you know? He doesn't You can't really shoot too well, you know, he has a little bit of a confidence to him.
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But, I mean, he's not really, uh, NBA bachelor player, at least at this at this point in time.
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But that's not That's not what I'm getting at, man.
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We got thes thes own guys here.
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The their their draft rights.
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You know, there's a trade that absolutely to sign right there signing rights.
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What I'm saying.
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So what does this mean? Toe to us, You know, because Sergio is 33 years old.
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I mean, does he have, Ah, like a taste to come to Thio? You know, Thio Nix.
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The complainant are rebuilding situation, you know? What would his head be at? You know? So now here's the thing with Houston.
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Houston is the wrong team for him, you know? You know, I guess he could have played with the Antonio and all this, but he was just wasn't interested in that type of thing.
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One thing I want to say is, um you know, let me just say also that I don't think he would be interested in coming to New York, even though he's a great player.
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Even at 33 years old.
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He's the kind of guy that that that it will be a veteran kind of do, and he probably would be probably do really well playing with with the young guys teaching and stuff like that, You know, the same type of role that we would put Chris Paul in, or whoever else you whatever else you guys wanted at the time.
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But, you know, he also is Spanish, so he's gonna have, ah, language, barrier and all this stuff, too.
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So it's not really going to be great for us and for that type of arm thing.
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Anyway, let me touch on Houston.
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Houston is just not the right team for for for them, you know, they have their own international players that they brought over, but they don't really do well with the European guys that they brought over.
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So But, you know, without dragging this on here, man, I just want to bring up San Antonio.
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San Antonio is a team that they're loves international players, and they were able to do with them.
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They keep them in the stash.
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Uh, you know, somebody like Popovich or just the climate around the team right now, as far as like, um, the transition into, you know, the next phase.
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And in that situation, uh, maybe Sergio would be interested in that.
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Just at least play with Popovich, play play under Popovich, you know, for like, a year or maybe, maybe to, you know, just just to have that experience in the MBA.
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Maybe that's something that might them by entice him, you know? So you know, I say all this to say, um they got two players over there in San Antonio that that are basically a waste.
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You know, these guys are past their prime.
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One guy is actually still in his prime, but the other one might be a little bit past his prime.
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Were talking about Jay Rosen and the other ****ing guy that I can't think of his name, but we're not talking about him.
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We're talking about the Rose in here, so Okay.
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You know, the elephants out the out.
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The Excuse me, the cat's out the bag.
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Right? So, um uh, DeRozan.
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He makes $27 million.
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He's on the expiring deal.
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He accepted the deal.
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Now, why did he do that? He still has, like, another contract in him.
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And he's only, like, a little bit over over the age of 30.
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He's not. He's not like, 33.
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He's just just a little bit over 30 right? So why did he accept the 27 million? Because he probably could have gotten a little bit more if not 30 Plus, Maybe he could have got still 25/3 or four years.
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You know, maybe that been something he could he could have picked up, but he chose to just take the 27.
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Why did he do that? Is that because there's a possible trade? Um um, in the works, You know, something that that that he was interested in? Maybe his agent, You know, like, this is something that I'm just pulling off.
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I've been thinking about it all day.
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I haven't really looked any into any research about who's, um you know, Jay Rosen's agent and all this and all this stuff here.
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But, you know, this is something that's interesting to me because, like I said, he's only making 27 million.
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Were already trying to get rid of Julius Randle.
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Um, San Antonio.
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They have their They don't really have big men there, you know, per se.
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Uh, you know, they don't have, like, at least with the age, you know? So Randall still fits that.
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That on that Petteri, he's like 25 years old, uh, 25 going on 26 or whatever.
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Um, he's still 19 and and nine.
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That might be something like this.
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Intriguing to them.
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And they already have a lot of young, uh, you know, ball handlers over there, you know? So maybe that's something that they might be interested in as far as building for the future.
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So somebody like the Rosen, he still has his athleticism.
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He's an elite scorer, you know, he started.
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He doesn't shoot the three.
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That's what everyone keeps talking about.
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But the guy still major scored 25 points a game. 22.
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He's still around that, um, that that arena right there.
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So you're talking about a guy that they're still like, you know, just leaving his prime where you want to say eso he's also right to grab.
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So, um, into this on this Austin Rivers on trade, you got Sergio, you got some of these other guys.
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Maybe those are the sweeteners that we need to throw into a trade like that to make San Antonio, except the trade, because, you know, really like, what's what's on his market.
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You know what? Our team is willing to give up that San Antonio were actually one they got Santo is gonna want something to build with.
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So, like I said, you got you got surgery on our side.
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We got a bunch of second round draft picks to I think we're gonna give him a first round.
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We got a bunch of second round draft picks and then also we got like I said we have on Julius Randle that threw out there.
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So even somebody like, say, like, Frank, I know everyone still wants Frank to develop with the Knicks.
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Right? But Frank is also ah, team that we all think that if he was drafted Thio San Antonio you probably have a better career.
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So, um, you know his his his opportunity.
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He could get traded to San Antonio with Julius Randle.
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The rights to Sergio, whoever else and then throwing a couple second round is in there.
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And then to me, that's a trade good enough to get the Rosen.
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And, uh, you know, what does that do for the Knicks? Uh, DeRozan.
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We'll expedite the rebuild in the same way that you did that.
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A lot of people thought Chris Paul was going to do it.
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And in the same way that people are still talking about Russell Westbrook, I know I was hot for a second.
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I was sold on Russell Westbrook but the same way that I would be sold in Russell Westbrook is the same way.
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I will be sold with DeRozan because you know, the Rose is not a point guard.
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But, you know, we're not choosing on what we need right now.
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We have plenty of point guard prospect on the roster.
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We don't have a shooting guard.
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I don't I don't count R.
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Barrett as a shooting guard.
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I think he's a small forward because he's rebounding ability.
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He gets seven rebounds a game.
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He's strong, you know.
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He doesn't really have a lot of herky jerky moves and stuff like that.
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So leave that to somebody that really knows how to do that.
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And that's the Rose.
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And the Rose is a face up player.
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Uh, you know, R J.
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Barrett is more of, ah, dropped the shoulder, move you out the way bump you and score kind of guy.
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Excuse me? Like I said, and then also he rebounds the ball, so it's not like they're gonna be occupying the same space, you know, um, they'll they'll be able to do whatever and also to the Rosen's game is also based on has a lot of distribution in.
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He sets up a lot of offense.
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He creates offense, he gets to the lane and he likes to find shooters.
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He said that on the old man and the three podcast, That's, um, JJ Red**** podcast had a big, long drawn out conversation with him.
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He talked about everything about Toronto and about the way that he likes to play the game and just the fact that on the whole three point of thing, he's like very, He said.
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He's a little bit of arrogant.
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About three pointers is everyone feels like he needs to shoot threes.
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Not that he can't shoot threes, that he just doesn't shoot threes.
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So maybe at this point in his career, maybe he adds that to his game.
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But even if he doesn't just a skill set that he's been bringing that the last few years, you know, at his peak, you know, maybe maybe he could bring those skills to to the Knicks and that that can, um, expedite what? We're doing it in the same way that were doing Westbrook.
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So for those that are watching this like oh, man, the roles and this guy is a ****ing idiot.
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Yeah, but if I'm if I'm a ****ing idiot, then whoever says Westbrook is a good idea to come here is a ****ing idiot, too, because they're basically kind of the same player, except for the for the simple fact that that he's actually gonna fit a spot that we can use.
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And that's that's the shooting guard.
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Then, you know, add some of the guys that there were already having roster, you know, like, of course, up for pain is not gonna play next toe DeRozan, you know? So you're gonna have toe make something up there as time goes on.
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Maybe also, river starts with them DeRozan There's something that can that can possibly happen, you know? And there's there's other ways to go about it as well.
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So I mean, this is this is just something I've been I've been thinking about all day because because to me it doesn't make any sense.
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Why? Why? We don't have to throw in, um, Sergio and these guys into the mix.
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If you know, we all know that he's not coming to the next to be any part of the rebuilding thing, especially his first year coming from Spain.
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So maybe he goes to San Antonio toe, hang out with pop for a year.
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You know, maybe he's thinking about basketball outside of his, Um, you know his own playing career.
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So maybe he's looking to get into coaching.
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Maybe he wants to come to the N B A. He didn't play in the NBA.
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Maybe he wants to come here and make some friends.
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And he would see if you can get in somebody's coaching circle.
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You never know how people think, man.
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So this is what I've been thinking.
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So, you know, training camp is supposed to start December 1st.
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So, you know, with the expedited season and everything is going on with over, you kind of want to get things settled before training camp stars, right? So a training camp started on December 1st.
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That's on the Tuesday We're talking about the weekend, You know, today's, um we're about to be Saturday right now, and what actually is Saturday? You just just hit midnight.
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So we're talking about Saturday right now and on Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
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That's the weekend right there.
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So I'm thinking that maybe if there's gonna be a trade to be done in of that caliber.
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There has got to be done this weekend.
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And, you know, judging by what what the Rosen did as far as accepting this contract and not not not becoming a free agent, uh, to me that that says, ah lot because that means that that maybe something was been brewing this whole time.
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You don't You don't really know.
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So this is all speculation.
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I don't like to talk about trades and stuff like that because people get crazy with all the second round picks, and all of a sudden, you know, people get nuts and just about opinion and stuff like that.
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But like I said, if you if you were thinking about Chris Paul And if you were thinking about Westbrook, uh, then then you shouldn't have a problem thing about the Rosen, you know? Like like I said Still makes sense, You know? RJ will go to the three.
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That that works. Good.
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You got topping.
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You got Mitchell Robinson.
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Still, you know, with with what's the name backing him up.
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Now, the, uh, what's his name there? Listening.
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Well, backing him up too.
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So that's a solid two, man.
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Uh, center thing.
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Uh, you know, you got Austin Rivers is talented guard on, then throw the roles in there as you're starting shooting guard.
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You know, it's a little, little It's not like, you know, something that jumps right at you.
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But getting a play like that, especially with Tom Thibodeau on the coaching staff that we have, Maybe there's something that that that can actually push us into, like 678 seed, you know, or make us dangerous down the line, especially via trade to, Because if if we if we do well with a roster like this, maybe we look further down the line at the trade that line, Maybe maybe we might be, um, takers, uh, this time around, you know, like I said, we got a lot of movable contracts.
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A lot of guys that signed a five year, five million, three million, six million, you know.
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So this is something that, um, that might benefit the Knicks going going down the line.
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It's anyway, I'm gonna repeat it again.
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So, uh, all be topping power forward.
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Uh, you got the tandem of Mitchell Robinson and, um, you know Nerlens Noel a center.
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You get Adam in there D s j Maybe maybe DHD takes.
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What else? Um, you know, then you gotta, you know you've got Of course, Alfred, You know, you know, I don't want to get into the elephant, our argument.
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But l for will be a good backup point guard in that type of situation on then, Of course, the Rosen being the shooting guard.
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So anyway, that's something to think about this what I've been thinking about, You know, I had to get it out before Let's say I wake up tomorrow morning and the ****ing training it went through, You know what I'm saying? So it's just something to think about.
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And like I said, the only reason I brought it up is because this clutch points article here, uh, talking about the sweeteners that we got in that Austin, um, rivers trade.
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I keep every time.
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I see Also rivers, I want to say Austin Powers, you know what I'm saying? But just because of that trade, it doesn't really make sense to me.
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Took the rights of those players.
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But what does make sense is maybe that those rights get flipped to another team.
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And right now I'm throwing.
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I'm looking at, you know, DEMAR DeRozan.
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So anyway, speaking with Anne Star, this is I'm losing my light here a little bit.
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And this is a midnight podcast.
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And this is it, man.
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So those are my thoughts.
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And, uh, I'm gonna just sign out here, man.
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Four fingers to your forehead, tucking your thumb salute.
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See you guys in the next one, man.