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All right, So before we owe talk last week, um, yeah, how the games went, How well you guys thought of the games and the spreads and everything.
Um, any initial thoughts, bad breaks, good breaks.
Um, well, first of all, our records going into last week were already not pretty.
Um, Richie was leading the pack at six.
I was five and eight and you were four and nine.
So there's one game separating each one of us.
Um, so there was that going into the week? Um, our village? I don't know, Richie.
Did you think were there any games that you felt were bad beat? Overall, Um, I have my You could go ahead first because I know there's a lot going on that week, and I'm like, Oh, my God.
Like kidding me.
But for me, you track for me.
It was majorly Joe Burrow getting injured knocked out of the game because I really think I mean, obviously the injury was devastating in and of itself.
Um, but I really think you know, Washington was favored by 1.5.
And I really think Burrow makes the difference in that game for the Bangles.
And all three of us picked the Bangles in that game.
I just feel like we should like talk about I mean, I know are.
Our main thing for the show is talking point spreads and the betting lines and like gambling perspective.
But Justus faras like a fan of football, the Bengals are like, Didn't everybody see this coming? It feels like when you see him it drafted by the Bengals, it sucks to say, but they have a terrible offensive line and the way they manage the game, it's like at a certain point, should not one adult in the room stand up and be like We're going to get this guy killed? You know, he had just been hammered by Chase Young going into the red zone like a driver to before that he for somebody who has that bad of an offensive line, he has Mawr drop backs than any quarterback in the league.
He has hit more than any quarterback in the league, and he sacked the third most in the league.
Like at some point.
Should somebody stand up and be like, Hey, maybe we should try to run the ball or do something to not get our number one overall pick killed on the field.
Um, like if somebody adopts a dog and abuses it.
At some point, somebody goes in and replaces the dog like you take it back.
You move it to a responsible, loving home, and it's not a perfect metaphor.
But it's like, Shouldn't you be able to relocate quarterbacks who are just being put out there to die like Doesn't this feel like it's like Andrew luck all over again? Like somebody who you love their toughness? You love how seriously they take the game, but they have a terrible offensive line.
They don't like to slide, and his career is going to be ruined if the trajectory continues.
Well, in some ways, in some ways, a little bit of Carson Wentz, too, because Carson Wentz I mean, I know there's a lot of those about how awful he is this year.
Yeah, but like Carson, Wentz has faced a lot of injuries this year.
But just because the guy doesn't get the guy doesn't go down easy, and so and he's always diving for the extra yard.
Which again you you like that.
It is definitely dangerous.
Um, yeah, so that one was definitely a bad beat in many ways, but in terms of our in terms of our picks, I think losing borough really tanked the opportunity for the Bangles to cover.
Um, the Miami Kid.
Miami was huge because you and Richie, you and Michigan had each locked the dolphins dolphins.
Also, you guys locked them, and I was confident in that number.
Yeah, to to have got taken out in the fourth quarter.
So you guys remember what I told you last week? Why I didn't lock the Dolphins e I told I told you guys.
I said, There's a history of teams going in two mile high Stadium and struggling because it's mile high, and I That's why I I felt confident the Dolphins would win.
But I did not want to lock it because I was concerned for that reason.
Um, so but here's what it comes.
I was gonna mention the Lions Lions were disappointed because they didn't score it all.
They even look competitive really against with Panthers.
I think it could have been a lot worse.
We'll talk about it more on frustration nation.
But, um, the Panthers threw two interceptions into the end zone.
The Lions intercepted both for touchbacks, so that could have easily been like a 30 something point when e think where.
So so management hat came out of this week.
Now he's leading our NFL scoreboard by one game enriching Ire. Both tied.
Um, and I think where he, uh, succeeded this week, none of us hit our locks.
I had locked the Vikings to beat the Cowboys, which, by the way, that game shows you how bad the Bears are because the Cowboys aren't good.
And they shredded the Vikings with Andy Dalton.
That quarterback, Um but I think we're a man.
Michigan hat kind of took the step ahead of us, you know? He didn't get his locker right, is rich and I both skipped Titans at Ravens pick, Titans enriching.
I both pick chiefs over Raiders and you skip that game.
So your your skips and picks those were perfect in opposition with where we skipped in pick.
And that is, I think, why you got the edge of this week, especially in a week when we all miss our locks.
Yeah, that's a difference maker because the skips aren't as impactful is the locks, but it could help you a lot.
That's one where I almost wish I would have taken the Raiders because I had that I was leaning in that way if I had to play it, it's just so hard to bet against the Chiefs.
Um, But as the game was unfolding, I just was thinking like, Man, I knew I should have bet the Raiders.
Um, but I probably just would have ended up skipping a game that I got right.
So it is what it is.
Sorry, Master lock way.
Our sponsorship is definitely not way eso were actually because Thanksgiving is this week.
We're actually recording this one early on Monday and the Rams Buccaneers game is still going on.
What's the latest update on that game? Rams were up 24 17.
4th quarter just started a really good game.
Both teams look like legit playoff teams.
Honestly, Um, yeah.
And all three picking the Buccaneer? Yeah.
Um e mean it's still possible, but not looking.
Not looking great.
Just what I need Jared Goff is 35 for 42 or three touchdowns.
He's just so inconsistent that you really don't know what Jared Goff you're going to get? Um and apparently it was the good one tonight, so Great.
Alright, well, let's Let's go ahead and get into our rules s so we can get into our picks.
Alright? Eso our rules as we get into this, um, every episode we make our picks for every NFL game for the upcoming week, we each have to use a skip which we referenced earlier.
A skip is worth zero points for a win or a loss.
It's just a game you want to pass.
Um, and you also have to use a lock, which is worth either to winds or two losses.
Um, every other pick is worth one win or loss.
We're gonna keep track of our records.
And by the end of the season, there's going to be some sort of reward for the winner to be determined.
Um, so and then also, we do have our prop picks at the end where we maybe we'll get Maybe we'll get a trophy made out of Joe Burrows knee.
I was going to separate things.
One for this show and one for the college show or yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
To separate ones, I would say probably two different skill sets to different yeah, topics for prizes.
We'll think about it.
Maybe one is a reward and one's a punishment. I don't know.
This is along the Joe Burrow line, but to be kind of cool for the college one.
I don't know if he has a cameo on how much it be, but to be really cool for the winter to get a personalized coach.
Oh, that's great, Coach O.
We owe a like Give me one second like it's all you need.
Todo Yeah, we'll have lots more time on his hands at the end of the year because he will not be in the playoffs this season.
Yeah, all right, so, yeah, as get into the picks, get ready for the best picking show out there because, unlike all the other shows you see or listen Thio on the score cast, we will not be wrong.
So let's get right into it this week.
I guess you could call it a treat.
We have 33 Thursday games because of Thanksgiving.
Uh, you know, if you go back and read your history books, everyone knows that after the programs came over on the Mayflower, they travel to Detroit into Dallas and started playing foot fall eso.
We honor that in our tradition still to this day and to start off our slate with the early game.
We have the Houston Texans visiting Ford Field as road favorites.
5 points eso I'm gonna throw it over to our resident Lions fan man and Michigan hat to hear your thoughts and prediction.
So I've been burned betting on the Lions three weeks in a row, and at a certain point you have to just ask yourself, How much longer can I keep doing this? And, uh, the answer is at least one Mawr week.
The text ins are trashed on there being overrated.
After the Patriots win, I think the Lions get a little bit healthier, which there's no excuse for getting shut out when you're missing your best running back to your two best receivers.
Like if you get a little healthier, that can make a big difference.
And I think on this short week they win the game.
Um, I'm at the point, honestly, where I should be rooting for Lions losses, but with one or the two exceptions will make our for rivalry games.
And for Thanksgiving Day.
Um so, listeners, I will admit, this is Ah, Homer pick.
You should absolutely bet on the Texans.
The Lions were just shut out for the first time in 11 years by a pretty bad Panthers defense.
So there's no logical reason to take the Lions here.
But it's Thanksgiving.
And in honor of the Pilgrim's and how good of friends they were to the Native Americans of the Fords.
Yeah, the Ford family who came over on the Mayflower.
I will bet on the Lions toe win and cover.
Very good, Richard.
What are you thinking on this game? So I'm not sad for you.
The Lions have come to spread just six times in the last 20 games.
Unfortunately, I'm gonna take the Texans by minus 2.5.
So just give me my eso.
It could be about that game honestly, so I don't know.
So I have a stat for you.
The Lions have only won one game at home this year on e and going back going back to last year, they hadn't won a game at home since, like Matt Stafford's like first game last year.
So they have almost like two seasons worth of football with two wins at home.
So getting the lion's got it down.
I I am going to go with, uh, with the Texans and this one as well groomed by at least a field goal.
It's your holiday spirit.
Uh, I'll go out and probably my holiday spirits.
Not in the next game, either, because football team at Cowboys Cowboys by three.
Um, I'm taking Alex Smith and the Washington football team.
I want to send dem boys crying to the dinner table.
How boys? Former Indians.
It's the really street story of Thanksgiving.
That's right, right? Doesn't get really than this, folks.
Do you guys know if the Red Rifle is gonna be in attendance, or is it gonna be starting? I think Yeah.
Is he okay? So that my parents, but last I heard he had this plan into Yeah.
Well, as of today, I'm taping at Monday.
This could change whatever, but I'm going Dallas monastery bread.
Right full time or your Your words are gonna make Skip Bayless dance.
That was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
You know, that was pretty bad.
Skip Bayless, come on.
Yeah, the only thing was missing and is like as he started the phone, looking down on it like the classic boomer video eyes.
This how you do the tick toke? Where is that book? Um, Washington.
Belarus is my favorite manager.
Firm or on him? I think I mentioned him in our next frustration nation episode.
So I guess it was the last one by the time you listen to this.
So, yeah, the football team has a really good pass rush and pass defense.
They just murdered Joe Burrow in cold blood.
And I think there's a good chance Andy Dalton might be right behind him.
Um, I love my Cowboys pick last week, but that was really just more about not trusting the Vikings.
The Cowboys are not a good team, and I think Washington probably wins this game out.
Right? Um, dio e I mean, would they be in command of the NFC East at that point? I mean, the eagles would still be, I think, but not after the Eagles match up this week.
Just a preview, All right.
I think that this after this game, the NFC East very much will continue to be up in the air.
Um, Cowboys are its full year.
A za Cowboys look ahead.
So there's, like upcoming games and their schedules.
It looks like Dallas has the easiest path to the playoffs, honestly, but a big loss here toe.
Washington will derail their plans, right? All right.
Uh, Thursday Night Football, your third game on Thanksgiving up the the sliding Baltimore Ravens struggling Baltimore Ravens visiting Heinz Field, official sponsor of the man in Michigan.
Hats relish shots.
Take one for the Heinz field crowd.
I'm actually really getting a look at that.
Wow, that's a lot.
Whoa! Because I didn't do it on your spare time.
No, it's all been on there, but, like, actually, no, I did not.
I thought it was more than this, though, but I think it was, like, coded up on the sides.
Um, so, yeah, I'm probably got, like, two more episodes worth of relish, so Oh, man, You guys go ahead.
I gotta look it off the table.
Go and get into your picks and alright, you might relish so Ravens at Steelers Steelers by 4.5.
Um, Richie, I wanna hear your thoughts on this.
One thing is, uh, Kenneth feels go undefeated game.
Honestly, this might be our game.
So, man, this is a tasa.
Um, I'm picking the Steelers.
I think they could go all the way until maybe the last couple of games, but they when they win this game.
I So the Steelers beat the Ravens by three earlier this season.
Um, I don't know how much confidence I have.
Just my confidence in the Ravens has plummeted this year.
So, being, uh, I will say a lot like lion games.
It gets easier to tolerate the longer you deal with.
Um, good ****ysis.
Um but so the Ravens have just been disappointing for me.
And like any time I've picked them, um, and even like me skipping the Titans Ravens game last week was, in a way, me saying, I don't have enough.
I feel like there's enough confidence in the Ravens that they could cover, but I'm not entirely sure this week I'm totally out on the Ravens, and I'm going to Steelers to win and cover.
You'd had the Steelers too, right? Yep.
Well, let's make it 343 E Look back.
We had a couple of this past week where we all picked the same.
We were good on Bangles.
Thank we lost that one. Yeah.
Like what? Our record.
Lions? Yeah, Cardinals.
That was all, like, ****ing Here's tonight.
Well, that's one and four.
And that was what I thought was our best we could do in that.
Yeah, well, if you go back and check our records, but probably a good idea.
So I'm taking the Steelers to the Ravens. Just look lost.
We all picked patriots and the Dolphins too.
And the Packers Oh, my.
How could you wonder? Okay, I didn't know the closest that honestly, so yeah, we're gonna talk more about that.
They have two, 34561 and six on our three for three picks.
It's not bad you paid us.
So you that's actually really that's a really good look for our show.
Eso we're trying to promote and uh, that's tag.
We won't be wrong.
We won't be wrong.
Um, the Ravens just don't really have an identity on offense, though.
And the Steelers have continued to roll.
Are clearly the best team in football right now.
Um, I know people talk about the chiefs, but I think it's clear at this point the Steelers are the team to be 4.
5 isn't very many points.
So give me the Steelers toe win convincingly.
Uh, it's just cool to that on a holiday that represents the abuse and the **** of indigenous people.
Big Ben just makes a really good representative for the sport.
So, um, yeah, yeah, I'll take the steel is well, and on a holiday when what we do is we absolutely eviscerated Demolish a big bird.
Um, the Steelers will be doing the same thing to the Ravens.
Um, all right, uh, Raiders at Falcons Vegas by three.
What? What really did the person who made this line watch the game against Kansas City last night? Or the game against the Saints for the Falcons? I have Raiders by a million.
I wrote that in my notes.
Raiders by a million highlight or back E u a e Nice.
That's a good you're locked Torto.
I did not lock it, but im e should have been doing a number is so deceiving.
Like house just so low, I I have to lock it like yeah, every once in a while.
There's a number like this that just feels like Vegas, not Vegas Raiders.
The Vegas gamblers know something that we don't know or like this.
There's something about this is a trap like and a lot of time.
Yeah, like everyone.
So I always see a number, and it's just it scares you off a little bit, but common sense says I have to take the Raiders.
Plus, I've just been high on them all year.
Um, I got scared last week, and I broke my tradition because Kyle didn't join me in the Raiders bandwagon, and I regretted that the Falcons also looked like garbage.
So we're back on track riding the Raiders all the way to the Super Bowl.
Uh, yeah, Raiders across the board, you know, frustration.
If the Raiders if the Raiders wins the role, we might have to rebrand ourselves.
Raiders, Raiders show.
Raiders Nations in that are depression.
Alright, e Like that's what they actually call them.
Raiders Nation, Radiation Nation.
All right, Um, Chargers at bills.
Yeah, man, your facial expression.
Exactly my feelings on this game too, Skip.
Uh, is that your skip? Nice.
I don't I don't not know.
Um, the bills air.
Definitely the better overall team 5.
5 is a weird number.
Definitely feel like they could win by a touchdown.
But the chart, like Justin Herbert, really has the Chargers offense looking pretty good.
Um, I'm using my skip elsewhere, so I'm going to go with the Chargers to cover in this one.
My, my If I had to pick a winner, I picked the bills, but I think it will be a very close game.
So I'm picking the Chargers to cover.
Yep. Richie? Yeah.
This is gonna be a right game for sure.
So it's super hard enough.
I could pick the overall picked over, but we're not picking over, so definitely over for sure.
No, I don't gotta be 50.
Maybe, but man, I put on my sheet.
I put the put the bills.
I'm kind of allies because the bills I mean, e, I need point if, like, the Chargers hit a field goal, that ****ed up the whole spread.
So, you know, that's the whole like thing with it.
But it's gonna be, er worried for sure.
So I don't know.
I'm gonna take the bills.
You're right, though.
That a number where I have and a half if you could.
Early field goal can mess up your numbers of what the possibilities are to where now you basically have to win by two touchdowns.
Almost so, like with the whole uh, yeah, yeah. Interesting game.
Yeah, this is when I was doing my show prep like filling in the pics.
I passed this one and every time I came back to it, I just picked a different way and I couldn't decide.
I just felt uncomfortable.
Eso Yeah, I can't pick this one this week.
5 line to another, Giants at Bangles is the next one.
And yeah, this number I just don't like this. No.
And this is one of 3, 5.
5 lines that we have this week.
Um, and I just I'm not a fan of these, but we don't have enough skips in the books for that.
Eso with borough being injured out for the season.
Ah, huge blow to this Bangles team.
I think with borough healthy, I might pick the Bangles.
But I'm gonna pick the Giants because I just think at this point, you're so demoralized as a team losing your number one overall pick.
So I'm going Giants.
What about you, Richie? Um, so, yeah, Hope Earl gets better.
Uh, yeah, Danny dimes.
He's been looking good ish.
So I mean, I think I'll take the Giants here.
I mean, that's weird to say, but yeah, I'll take the Giants.
It's just strange, because it's like Burrows injury it depending on your team, if you have a good culture like we've kind of seen with the 40 Niners, right? You get all these injuries and they can win and kind of rally around the coaching staff and try to, like, build up a sense of, even though we've lost our quarterback we've still got this strong core.
The Bengals just feel like not a good team, Not a good franchise.
And not a good culture toe.
Where I don't think they can do that.
They still have that terrible Oh, line that just got borough killed.
And so now you've signed two quarterbacks off the practice squad and you want to put one of these guys behind that line? Give me the Giants? Um, e I just don't think I don't think even though this is a bounce back spot, I don't think the Bengal Zahra bounced back.
All right, um, Titans at colts.
There's a big divisional game.
Um, are they? What is their records right now? Are they tired of the Colts ahead? CFC sit there, Tie it at seven and three.
This is like a game for the division tiebreaker.
Didn't Tennessee win last time? I'm not sure, but I have.
This is my skip of the week.
I have Indiana apple.
ISS whips Indianapolis by by by 3.5.
I have I just don't know, Like the Colts have been in team this year very much to me.
Similar to the Titans.
You know the Ravens, where they have games where they look like one of the best teams in the A F C.
Just like the Titans and the Ravens.
But then they also have games where they look rough.
And last week, beating the Packers, the Colts looked good.
The Titans being the Ravens, the Titans looked good.
And you, both of these teams coming off huge wins E just don't know what to expect.
And being such a big game for their the future of their division and playoffs, I am going to skip it because I just don't know where to go.
Oh, yes, E s o I look back.
I don't know how I forgot this, but the Colts and Titans just played two weeks ago and the Colts 1 34 17.
Yeah. Big matchup.
Um, So you have a cold again? No.
The Colts do look legit right now, and so do the Titans.
It just feels kind of like a coin flip game.
Honestly, if I have to pick it even with it being in Indianapolis.
But if Vegas is gonna give me mawr than a field goal to bed on the Titans, I'll do it.
Maybe I'm falling into a trap.
I'm not sure if they win, but I'll take Tennessee to cover 3.5.
I might think twice about it, but 3.5.
I'll take the Colts minus 3.
The Colts look really good.
I was actually surprised they beat the Packers, but the package nephew frauds.
But honestly, it was just weird.
E thought the Packers were good and they got beaten by the Colts and that Just focus my head so and I can't get to tie ins because Italians are horrible.
So they're a part of taking a cult.
So that Z, that's an interesting, uh, so we have to matchups right now.
The Chargers bills one of us pick bills.
One pick chargers, one skipped.
And now this 111 pick Titans One picked colds and one skipped.
Yeah, I mean, that goes to show the tough betting lines.
I meant to mention this at the top of show, too, but I read a report.
According toa one sports book.
It was the best most profitable weekend they've ever had.
Um, because you looked like last week everybody was high on the Dolphins.
A lot of money came in on the lions like everybody was on the wrong side of bets.
And Vegas just took all the money last week.
Except you took all Vegas is money, so it kind of feels like a week where they've got some really weird numbers out there.
Um, it'll be interesting to see what way the money goes as far as public money and all that.
But if anything, the slate kind of feels tougher to me than last week.
All right? It's gonna get proper too, because, like, as the playoffs come through like, it just gets harder.
So And as every week goes by, there's more numbers, more data.
Vegas has that much more information.
Yeah, it's tough.
So we need a big guy, you know, inside guy.
Panthers at Vikings.
And again, By the way, everyone, all these lines that we have are based off of the ESPN app.
Um, you're not Monday so they can get away by Sunday, so yeah, which, actually like that's another interesting thing. Like, if you're betting.
Ah, lot of times I like betting early in the week because you get a line before it's moved much, and then you get the cool chance.
Like if you bet on our next game.
Vikings Panthers say you take, um say you take the Panthers to cover the 4.
5 and then the line goes all the way down to two.
You can place another bed on the Vikings, and then, if you hit right in between, you win.
Both bets double like you cover your losses if if you're on the wrong side of either one.
But you create that sweet spot in the middle of one or two points, sometimes it moves up to like five or six.
I've had a few bets like that before, where you play both sides early in the week and then late hits right in the middle and you get double a double win on it.
So, chef perfect.
So yes, sometimes betting those those lines early in the week can be, um, a good way to do it so called double Web.
So e Well, let's get into panthers.
I'm gonna throw this one over to you.
Vikings Air favored by 4.
So the Panthers look good.
Really? Dependents looked good from last week.
The Vikings are Ah, home.
I e was another hard game.
I'm taking the Vikings minus 4.5.
Mhm bounce back game.
This the bounce back week.
I feel like because all dynasty north, like, lost last week, right? So, like, I just feel like talking about bears because they were stunned moving somehow.
Here's to try not playing more often.
Yeah, exactly knows that. Yeah.
I thought about skipping this one.
The big question is if Teddy Bridgewater is gonna be back, um, the defense played well.
It's not statistically been a good defense for the Panthers this year, but they did play Well, it is the Lions, Um, at four and seven.
This feels like a must win if the Panthers even want to get back in the hunt, which at this point, it feels like it's too late.
You look at their just their division and a stack, and then, um, but this is a game that Yeah, um, so I don't know.
I think cook is gonna have a big game because Carolina can struggle against the run.
5 points, I'll take the Panthers to at least keep it close.
I think the Vikings probably win this game, but a close game? Yes.
So I have uh look, I I locked the Vikings last week against the Cowboys.
Um, and I was proven just how bad the bears really were against the Vikings.
Um, Man, the Vikings are not good.
I think I think the Panthers are gonna sleep.
Walk through this one in their PJs.
P J. Watts Sleepwalker.
I want to see what I did there.
Hey, had a really good game.
I'm gonna take the Panthers in their PJs to cover.
Probably win, but at least to cover.
Just as a heads up Thio.
Because we're recording on Monday night.
Monday Night Football.
Three minutes left in the fourth.
And it's tied 24 24.
So this game goes to overtime.
Or maybe in regulation even.
Obviously, like there's a good chance we could still win our bet on Tampa cover.
Which what? We got a 6.
5 or five? Four and a half.
It was under a touchdown. I know.
I think it's at three. Exactly.
So it might put We get it at three.
I know the numbers up to, like, 4.
I forget what our number was when we bet it mean like Tampa three.
So just as a heads up, Uh, yeah, the Rams are gonna have the ball with a few minutes left.
Um, because the bucks just scored, but it's tied right now, so maybe by the end of this episode will know how that bet did.
Alright, Next game.
E er Oh, yeah, I already Yeah.
High scoring game.
Unless staying, like, just don't score over time.
E have when score cast was a frustration nation only show.
I did predict a tie correctly.
Yeah, um, which I wish happened, right? Yeah.
Bangles eagles. I predicted a tie.
I was very proud of that.
Which is the only tie this year, right? Yep.
And that's the only time you predicted one and yeah, yeah, exactly.
Cardinals at Patriots Arizona by 2.5.
So this game is a little tough for me.
Also, um, Cardinals.
Sometimes her up and down patriots are up and down.
I'm totally kidding.
I'm locking the cardinals in tow.
Win this game by at least the field goal.
Cardinals are my right lock brought to you by Lock it up.
Yeah, well, this is making me nervous because we're going to share our lock again.
Um uh, just did it.
Um, well, you shared a lot betting against the patio.
Yeah, well, we shared a college lock this week, right.
I think we're both the Notre Dame.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And betting against the Patriots.
And why against the Patriots still feels dangerous, but they're not a good team.
I think the cards are a really good team.
I think they're going to score 40 plus points in this game.
Um, Arizona winds and covers.
This is my second mortgage.
Bet your life savings, risk everything you have.
And don't tell the wife Lock of the week.
Live live by example.
Yeah, I'll take Cardinal.
I'm gonna take the cardinals to It's a caliber bounce back game here.
And due to about last week, right? Or that it was a by last week.
Let's play Thursday night.
They play Thursday night.
It wasn't that great, right? Yeah, you're fine.
Remember he didn't.
Selected the over for your prop bet of 4.
81 passing yards.
And he didn't hit that? Yeah.
Today window against Seahawks or they lose Seahawks won.
Yeah, that's what it is. My bounce back game.
Lock it all three looks He locked.
I locked already with writers, graders.
Okay, Someday we'll all three lakhs across the board, and that will definitely e I didn't do it.
Yeah, Well, Dio, you should absolutely avoid that game when it does happen.
Dolphins at Jets, Miami by seven.
Big divisional game Because we're e can't say it straight with a straight face. Never.
They're playing the Jews for the Dolphins. Yeah.
Hey, look, I'm picking the dolphins.
I don't have anything else.
Anything else to say? I'm just picking the dolphins.
Like I said, it's bounce back week.
So to, uh, he's a comeback strong.
He's gonna kill it for the Jets.
I mean, yeah, dolphins by Yeah, once again we're all picking across the board.
Same team, Um, which I feel like this is about a week for for us to I think that's the week.
We're all right on all these.
So that's two weeks and rule that we picked all the Dolphins.
We all picked off a Apparently get ah, year ago, we would all pick the Dolphins multiple weeks in a row.
You heard it here first Dolphins Raiders, NFC Championship game.
Who beats the seeds are the not saying the Steelers.
The Dolphins? No.
The Chiefs somehow play the Steelers on the Chiefs.
Beat the Steelers and the Raiders beat the Chiefs.
And then the Dolphins play the Browns.
That actually doesn't think Thio gonna happen.
Onley seven points.
I think people are overreacting.
Toe last week, two of being benched, I think the dolphins air fine and they're gonna blow the doors off the jets.
And the only reason I'm not lock in this is because I just can't lock a teeny um, the week after they were my lock and lost just out of principle, I can't do it um, but this is probably the one I feel most confident.
And, um, I saw a stat.
This is interesting.
It is a pro Jets stat.
Joe Flacco sucks.
And, well, hold on.
In his two games, starting for the Jets, he's thrown seven touchdowns in the Jazz.
That's eight games before that.
They threw for seven touchdowns or they scored seven touchdowns.
So definitely games.
He has produced the same amount of touchdowns they had the whole rest of the year before.
Yeah, Flacco goes back.
It is funny because he won a Super Bowl and it wasn't a Super Bowl MVP.
Yeah, that whole playoff run, he had a a passer rating of, like, over 1 10.
Yeah, And now he's the backup quarterback for Tank.
You know, winless football team.
Yeah, and he has moments where, like, he has a talented arm and can make some good throws.
But then did you see that? Pick 60 through? Like the worst pick six I've seen all year.
I just throw Worst pick six I saw was Carson Wentz.
Okay? Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, it was like it looked like Carson once was playing game of 500.
Like every time.
Carson, Every time Carson Wentz touches the football looks like the first time he's ever touched a football.
Carson Wentz sucks football, Virg.
We got football, Virg.
Yeah, well, uh, I've got plenty to say about Carson once we get to that pick.
But yeah, just even with the Super Bowl winning Joe Flacco.
Seven points just isn't enough.
I see that field goal.
Yeah, my under I hate thing.
I don't keep doing this myself anyways.
Now we're a touchdown.
If the A touchdown drive would still be four points, we go in.
Well, all right.
Uh, you pick the dolphins? Yeah, you did.
Brown at Jaguars.
Cleveland by seven.
Um, I'm picking the Browns No one else needed.
Yeah, you both take Brown's pretty good.
Yeah, I'm just I'm getting sick of betting the browns, like two weeks ago.
They push this week.
They win, but don't know.
They did cover this week, right? Yes.
Yeah, But the push two weeks ago, they just never looked confident or consistent.
It's like a roller coaster every time you watch the Browns game, give me the points.
I'll take the JAG wires.
I'm gonna try betting the other way way.
They're definitely not as good as the Browns.
And the Browns running game is probably gonna be successful against the JAG wires.
But the Jaguars have been kind of quietly playing decent football the past few weeks.
At one point, it looked like an anomaly against the Packers.
But now, for a few weeks, they've been playing not good football, but they lead against the Steelers. Three.
Huge moment for the franchise.
Um, I think they could at least keep this close with it being at seven. Even.
I bet this is a push again.
Um, second push in three weeks, so we'll see.
But I'm just gonna take the points.
Yeah, that does feel like a push. Now they bring it up.
Um, all right, let's move on to the next one.
Uh, Saints at Broncos.
I wanna hear rich your thoughts on this one first man.
So I originally put the saints minus six.
But after hearing your thinking about the whole model high thing ships It's like taking a back taken to a fact.
But tisa pills so good last week.
Yeah, Jack of all trades.
So Oh, man, I think I'll take the Broncos plus six e +06 What a peck.
I hate my high stadium.
Um, well, for me, I believe that Taysom Hill is kind of like Cinderella and the magic only last so long.
And now that ESPN fantasy is officially stripped him of his tight end status for this e believe that the magic will start to rub off against Vic Fangio's defense in Mile High Stadium.
I'm also taking the Broncos whole rap.
No, I'm, like, second.
E sister pick last minute.
Okay, So the broncos had a good game, and I do think there's something to the fact that they're playing at home, and that's a really tough environment.
Um, like, nice locket in e still just don't think they're a good team.
The spread is under a touchdown, so I'll take the saints.
Um, and I think this might I'm doing this partly.
I don't feel great about it necessarily.
But I think they're definitely a better team than the Broncos.
And this might be a chance for me to kind of steal a game against both of you guys.
Um, so I'll take the Saints here.
This is again the one of those numbers where if you get one of those odd fuel goals early, it could set you up for missing.
40 Niners at the Rams.
Niners coming off a bye week.
Rams favorite by seven.
Uh, I had this pick cemented even before Monday night football was played.
But after walking after watching this game tonight, I'm even that much more confident in my Rams pick here.
The Niners have showed spurts of life throughout this year, despite a like, totally like they have.
Like, they have a MASH unit out there for a football team.
Ah, but they're not gonna be a match for the Rams this week.
I'm watching this rams game right now, and the ramp look good.
So I'm gonna take the Rams minus seven.
I'm gonna do it again.
Going to get studio? Um, I don't know man like the Rams have had times this year that they look good and then come out are kind of disappointed.
I don't think I've bet on the Rams a single time all year, like I've just been constantly down on them, which is probably done because they have a good record and look solid.
But why would I start betting on them now? I think this might be a close game.
I have a lot of respect for the 40 Niners coaching staff.
Eso give me San Francisco? Yeah.
So keep it because I trust their coaching and I think they still lose the game. But keep it close.
San Francisco to cover.
I could see a close game there for sure.
Um, and another event.
Number of a lot of these.
So at seven points, even possible push here.
I guess for me, like you brought up the Rams haven't looked as good in some parts.
Brady just threw an interception.
And the Bucks only have one time out.
Two minute warnings passed yet.
Well, there's another loss on our NFL record.
Way won't be wrong.
Uh, one of the games that people like him like hammered the Rams on, um, like, not looking like a legitimate team was Rams dolphins.
But I think looking back now, that's actually a bigger statement about the Dolphins than the Rams.
So that's why I think lately I'm gonna be confident with my rams Pick here, anyway.
Uh, chiefs at Buccaneers.
This one also could qualify for a Thanksgiving matchup.
Uh, so, um, Chiefs by three is the number here.
Uh, Richie, what are your thoughts on this one? Yeah, all right.
The buccaneers right now, they're not looking too good, but, um man, there's something weird how this game's, like, really? Like a small spread, like three.
I don't know why it seems too small, but I was gonna skip this game, but thinking about now, I don't know.
I'm gonna say chiefs ****ing Have you used this? Have you used to skip yet? No, not yet.
I know you escaped.
Chief E in again, like we're watching the bucks right now.
But I had this note from earlier today, and it's just Tampa has just been super up and down all season like this feels like a game.
They either win or lose by, like, 30 points.
Um, I think the Chiefs are just a better team at this point.
Um, the bucks are coming off a short week.
Give me Kansas City to win and cover.
I am also going with the Chiefs here.
Ah, hard fought game on emotional game against the Raiders.
I just I don't think they're going to have it against the Chiefs.
Um, so I'm picking the Chiefs as well.
You guys have been waiting all day for Sunday night, and I unfortunately, we'll have to watch this game bears at packers.
Mhm Green Bay by eight.
Do we even need to mention the point spread on us? Oh, I'll go first.
I'm gonna skip because I don't like the point spread.
It's a weird point.
Honestly, I want to bury the win, but it's weird because it's a little bit more in touch down and the bears can't do that.
But I'm afraid to like, I'm afraid. Yeah.
The bears might not score eight.
Um, so I'm sorry I'm skipping this one.
I can I can't I don't like this point spread, either because I think it's far too low.
I'm looking at Packers by, like, 20 or so like no, to be honest, like the Bears always keep it somewhat close because of their elite defense.
But mhm, I just I have no faith.
I have no, like the past few weeks with an abysmal offensive performance.
Weekend and week out has totally broke me.
And I'm gonna watch this game because of a die hard fan.
And because I do my full press bears podcast like, I have to watch it now.
Yeah, um, but I am going to pick the Packers to win and cover.
So rid, Like Ritchie, said, eight is a tough number.
Um, I do think the Packers win, but by mawr than a touchdown.
Yes, the Packers win and cover.
Um, this kind of might be a preview.
We'll talk about this more, but, um, I feel like this is a game missed.
Robiskie comes back.
There's some excitement.
I do think that's he's the better option, and the problem is he hasn't played in a while, and he's a player who he's looked like in the past struggles when he's in big moments and there's high pressure situations.
And what time would be a worse time to come back than in a must win game on the road against a rival that you strong shoulder to? Yeah, so even like I think Mitch coming back is the right move.
I think he's a better quarterback at this point, but this is a really tough spot to throw him in, even coming off the bye.
Um, the Packers are a beatable team, definitely.
But the Bears, I just don't think, have the ability of your advantage of those weaknesses.
Like if you had a solid running game, that might be something I consider, um, but I just don't know if the Bears are able to take advantage of that weakness.
So Packers to win and cover.
Yeah, it's about vacuum.
I feel like for Aaron.
Rodgers has lost the game, got the cold.
So you're trying to come out like shooting honestly like I'm scared of.
And there's a that that he's like 12 and one or something in the past couple of years, um, against the spread coming off a game when he lost or something like that, I figured it was, but he is very good after it lost the Bears, the Esso, everything you said about Mitchell, Strabinsky is on point.
I think the Bears have to win this game.
Who saw against the Vikings? They scored on special teams.
They turn the ball over twice on defense.
I think the defense is going to have to not only turn the ball over, but turn the ball over and score.
If they actually want to win this game and I don't.
Rogers rarely throws pick sixes.
I just don't see it happening.
So I just don't feel good about this game.
Um, but on the bright side of the Bears win there.
Definitely back in the playoff picture.
Alright, Monday Night Football.
Are you ready for some football? Um, this is our third final 5.
5 point spread, uh, this week, Seahawks at Eagles.
This one was my lock at first, Um, because the eagles are trash and the Seahawks have had a rough couple of weeks, even though they did beat the Cardinals, looking at a game where this could be one where they kinda you know, blow out the Eagles.
But the Seahawks defense is just so suspect that I feel like even somebody of Carson Wentz is ineptitude.
Could take tear it apart a little bit.
Um, but I'm still I'm still riding with Seahawks to win this game, but I'm definitely not locking it.
Breathing, Richie, when someone say something.
Oh, yeah. Go ahead. Ritchie.
Yeah. On the sea Hawks Eagles.
Oh, yeah, it's just coming out.
Yeah, I'm taking the Seahawks.
Yeah, it's Ah, yeah.
I'm picking the Seahawks.
The Eagles are still injured.
I don't think that No.
Another game one of the year.
So I'm afraid the Seahawks.
The Eagles Air garbage.
Like I said earlier, every time he touched the football Looks like the first time he's ever seen a football.
And he has no idea what was just thrown to him.
The Seahawks folks are going toe butcher.
The Eagles on national television and the NFC North will continue to be up for grabs.
After I think Washington beats the Cowboys, the eagles lose here.
Free for all, with everybody being at the bottom and no one running away with it.
Well, and we picked we all pick the Giants to beat the Bengals, too.
So Yep, I think there's a very real chance that science win the division.
Still, I don't know what the statistical odds are, but I think they're the best team.
All right, well, that is our NFL picks.
Uh, do you guys all pick your throw? Right? Fantasy prop picks for the week.
I did not pick mine yet, but I'm looking right now, So you guys go first and then I'll have mine.
Um, I picked my and now I see that I didn't write it down, which was dumb.
Um, but I can tell you.
Okay, so my pick waas, um I like the Shawn Watson.
A 26 265 and a half passing yards going the over around that.
That is my pick against Detroit.
All right, Shawn Watson, over over to 65 a half.
My name is Alex Smith.
5 till interception.
So he's gonna throw an interception.
Where am I? You are at your house.
Oh, thanks, s I'm not seeing are the lines not out yet on I'm on the thriving.
They're only out for Thursday right now.
They're only out for Thursday.
Right now, I'm not even so, Um yeah.
I'm not saying you want me to pick one for you.
Just name a couple off and I'll pick one of them, will you? Sneed The fourth at 3.5.
Matthew Stafford, 24.5.
Total completions Pocket.
5 total completions.
95 a half total.
Russia and receiving yards.
All purpose yards.
Marvin Jones, Jr.
Over one. Receiving touchdown.
Okay, give me that one.
Marvin Jones under on Tasha.
You know these under? Yeah, I think holiday might come back.
Um, and even if he doesn't, the pass offense has struggled.
Um, a few other options.
I think maybe if we do score, which is a big if at this point, um, there's a good chance that comes from catch out of the backfield or something.
So, yeah, I don't think Marvin Jones scores one here.
And that's actually did you add? So you you were the only one that got your prop bet your prop pick correct last week.
That was the difference.
As far as why I took you through my prop pick, which you opposed me directly because I had I had Nick Chubb scoring a touchdown, and you had Nick Chubb not scoring a touchdown, and he did not score a touchdown.
You got to looks inside the 10 yard e job, but normally get one of them, so it was interesting.
All right, well, that that officially is the conclusion of our NFL portion of the shoot your shots Score cast for NFL Week 12.
Who is closing us out today? I'll close us out.
Um oh, e have lost the sheet to close this out.
Give me one second.
What? Hey want anyways? Do you guys wanna close the start? I mean, if you guys get that one.
Yeah, this concludes the shoot.
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