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What is our boys? Eight ratio Episode 1 37 Not even coming in hot today.
Just I just can't even coming high.
Let me just say, let me give you a quick run down of the show, and then we're just We're just gonna go right.
We're gonna blaze right from the beginning.
Okay? We're gonna talk a little.
Carson Wentz is always and before everybody checks in and start to say that we shouldn't talk about Carson, it's stag.
And guess what if you don't understand sports talk that get off the show because the problem is that this is the objective right now, it's what's going on in this town.
So that just means that you're not talking about which means you're not the actual sports fan.
What if Jalen is better we're talking about That is Doug Peterson.
Lame duck Coach.
Eagles versus Panther.
Please tell me what is different between the Eagles and the Carolina Panthers.
Tom Brady shaky.
Does this guy really like to shake hands? Is he like, the biggest sore loser of all time? Ah, Clay's unfortunate second A c l uh, Daryl Morey is a legend already with Sixers 3 60 Flip, what do you think of foreign sports? Ah, little hip hop flashback with Snoop Dog 27 years ago.
But right off the bat, we have to talk about eagles and this is all gonna say I'm gonna say, Ah, little too many thing and I'm gonna let I'm gonna open up to everybody cause I'm gonna put the challenge out there for everybody in Twitter land.
Everybody on Facebook.
Everybody, please tell me this.
Okay, I'm gonna give you These are statistics.
These are you know, people are using words like keyboard bullies and and twitter ****ysts.
I like all these people who think they know what the hell they're talking about, but they don't.
They're quick to tell somebody else.
They don't know what they're talking about, but they don't actually know what they're talking about, either.
The last time I checked, there's only a few people that actually have the credentials that actually back up what they're saying, and they're not.
The people that are tweeting may.
So next point the Eagles, in my opinion, back to the old quarter.
Doug can't start hurts because he's scared, even though whence needs to be benched.
Because what happens if Carson is that bad? What happens if Jalen is that good? What happens if it works that can't turn back there? Screwed.
Let me decide some 19th and pants and yards.
15th incompletions, 20th in touchdowns, first in picks and ready for these two stats and and these air, we're gonna challenge everybody in Twitter world.
Everybody on Facebook, every Philadelphia fan.
It's telling me Carson Wentz is still the guy.
58% completion rate, worst in the NFL, 12% lower than Daniel Friggin Jones, 6.
2 yards per attempt, worst in the NFL.
And before anybody says anything, I challenge everybody will one question.
Please tell me why Carson went gives you the best chance to win right now.
Explain to me I don't wanna hear Oh, Joe.
I don't wanna hear.
I need a freakin excuses anymore.
Tell me why he is the best reason for us to win football games.
Because I'm gonna tell you something right now.
You three guys know it.
Everybody listen to know it.
If you put out those stats, I don't care if it's Tom Frickin Brady.
They're getting benched.
So why is Carson Wentz untouchable for parts unknown? Finally, Mikey Goose at Mikey Goose followed a guy Mike, talk to me.
What am I crazy? What's going on here? So just just out of curiosity, what do you get? A lot of flak that this is like a went bashing session.
Is that what's happening? You know, it's like, uh, there's there's two guys.
There wasn't actually five guys there.
There was two guys to say, Like all these guys are ****ysts. They have no clue.
Well, look, I think my voice just speaks for the average somewhat informed emotional fan, right? That's kind of like the role that I play here.
If anybody takes anything that I say seriously, they should get their head examined.
That's number one.
Okay, Number two, if anybody is going to sit here and defend the play of this guy.
I don't see any facts to back up.
Why, like you said, Why this? This guy should remain in any of the games outside of maybe one thing, which is completely shaking his confidence and maybe showing the rest of the team that they're not really behind this foundational guy, that they probably sold the entire team on again.
Let's try toe, put ourselves in what's happening behind the scenes that we don't know the entire team.
Rookies and all have been told that this guy is the guy that's basically gonna lead them.
It's their leader.
It's like a company taking out their CEO in the middle of it.
So I have to sort of understand for continuity purposes.
That's probably why he doesn't want to do it.
And I also may agree with what you just said.
What if he puts hurts in and everybody that's all saying hurts now, right, hurts or something and the guy just flat out stinks.
I mean, that would be totally our luck, because this year is suck so bad that that's probably what's gonna happen with the guy's gonna wind up getting injured, doing something stupid and, you know, it's just it's like a perfect fitting.
So I think Doug is saying, probably looking at it from a measure of control, meaning that he feels that he can probably, I would say, control Carson to a certain extent.
Or maybe he really feels like he can get him back.
But if you pull the guy, what kind of a message does that send to the rest of the team now? Now you're right.
You're right. Maybe that's it.
I get a checking in.
What's up? How you doing, buddy? We're gonna get to that six or stuff a little later.
Let's take bills.
What's what's up, Bill? Thanks for checking in. Thanks for watching again.
High school football coach right here that this dude knows what he's talking about.
I would love I would love to have a conversation with him, and right now, he says, My big question.
Doug Peterson become a big coats.
In my opinion, if he has the right people in place, he won a Super Bowl against the best dynasty in NFL history.
So is it Doug or is the front office or a combination, So all right, I I know.
Dave likes this question.
Uh, Dave, I'm gonna pivot right to you, because you've been on this for the last few weeks for actually the last year.
So, Dave, you can answer this question right up your alley.
I mean, listen, I think Bill is in line with everything that I've talked about.
Front office First.
It's a trickle down effect, Tony.
No one could argue with those stacks.
He is playing horrendous.
How could how could any possible person defend the play of Carson Wentz at this? Well, I get it, but I still don't want him to be removed.
And here's here's a long shot of, ah, reason why.
Here's a long shot of a reason why How about seeing if he can actually complete a season without getting hurt? How about something like that? How about that? Everything around them still and I know this is, you know, the same scenario week after week.
It's It's all disheveled.
Everything is disheveled. Nothing.
Nothing is streamlined.
Its's out of whack completely.
Um, let me ask you a question.
The play that was intercepted.
Where Alshon Jeffery missed the ball didn't jump.
Was there was a flag.
How about gave up? Or he can't because he's a statue and he stinks.
How about that? Don't Don't forget about that.
Everybody and their mother is blaming.
Carson went for the throat.
I watched the play.
I watched the replay six times and I'm all for bashing winds.
I don't think that was once his fault.
No, I don't either.
But this is the product.
This is the personnel on the field that he has.
Now listen, taking this ax, not not throwing the ball out of bounds.
Happy feet, I get guys.
There's no argument.
Tony, your nail on the head.
The numbers don't lie in that scenario.
Numbers don't lie, Dave, but it's Carson Wentz.
The closest thing you have to potentially having a Super Bowl franchise.
Yes or no right now.
Now who is you? Hear? You tell you.
Tell that quarterback wise.
Yeah, quarterback. He's the quarterback.
Well, I guess he's probably the best thing that you have to go forward.
We're gonna go forward with what you bring up a bunch of interesting points and I will say the last couple of weeks, the offensive line has been like Swiss cheese and turnstiles.
So we can't really hold the ball that long, because doesn't have a second to even think.
Michael. They brought that up.
Because why isn't my a lot of playing? Why is Jason Peters playing? Why? Why are these kids that have proven that they could protect him playing? Jason Peters? Maybe played 50 50.
Okay, not so good. You know, whatever.
Put my lot in there, let him play this.
This kid has seen so many different things in front of him where they're missing blocks, the running backs aren't picking up linebackers.
The receivers aren't running the right Ralph and then Carson on top of it makes a bad throat or doesn't throw the ball out of bounds.
The bull**** inherited, Dave.
I dio I know, and I don't normally do.
But this is the same **** that I've been watching on Twitter.
And guess what? Were we 12 now? We 12.
Jared Goff left his left tackle All Pro left.
Tackle gets goes down in Whitworth.
And did you see all excuses made by Sean McVeigh and Jared Goff in that game.
No, Jared Goff Okay, through a couple of pics, but he made plays.
When? When you're $100 million quarterback, I don't give a **** who's in front of you.
You're paid, ah, $100 million to make **** happen.
Dave, would you have to make **** happen? And I would love for Carson to be thrown to Cooper Cup.
How would that look on the Eagles home? No, no, no, no, no, wait.
Hold on for a second before I'm gonna get the job because I I see him and we got these quotes coming because I love this argument.
Okay, so we were without one guy.
Okay, One offensive weapon.
Who? Before the season started, we heard we were We were competing for a Super Bowl is here because we got a great offense, Ma Sanders.
Zach Ertz, Dallas.
Got it right. Hurd J.
Gregor. Okay, wait.
That show. Jackson.
All right, So we're two guys were down to Sean Jackson and Zach Ertz.
So do Sean Jackson and Zach Ertz.
Those two guys who all of a sudden now they make us a Super Bowl team mhm.
So So we We get Ma Sanders back to that.
Dallas, Qatar came back to that.
Do anything, Jeffrey.
Whether what, him or not, he came back to that. Do anything.
Is it all on Carson? It's not on Carson because it's a mix of the play calling, and it's a mix of Carson.
It's definitely not all on him, but nothing is jelling right now.
We have no idea what's coming out of the leadership.
We don't know what they're telling him to dio.
If you remember the guy when he makes plays specifically in 2017, when he rolls out, he's dangerous.
He breaks plays down.
He can get all kinds of crazy things done.
Think about all the big games he's had.
Has he ever really been a pocket passer? Where he just sits in there and picks people off is really that his game? Did they put him back in the pocket because they don't want him to get injured anymore or when he runs down the field, May I scream? Why is he running? We don't want him to get hurt again, and now he's in the pocket.
I'm telling him he should run everybody saying The whole everybody is picking both sides and nobody knows what to stick on.
But I can tell you this, and we all know because we've seen it.
When the guy rolls out, he moves around.
That seems like where he has the biggest success, and now the only time he's doing that is when he's running for his life.
So I think that his bad play in combination with everybody else's bad play is making it impossible to really figure out who's screwing up now because it's just a complete screw up a week.
Yeah, on top of that, John's right bad play calling.
I mean, his play calling is atrocious.
I'll give you that.
So Steve Jackson, he said. There's no rhythm to the offense.
It's never a three step five step drops that and throw.
I don't have access to all the film, but it seems to me he isn't reading defense's or progressions of the routes.
Nothing is on time.
He pumps, wait for someone to be wide open and takes bad ***. Absolutely.
Okay, he's 100% spot on.
If you go watch the game film.
Watch the Game, Phil.
And for all the keyboard bullies who people like the call and all the Twitter ****yst.
Go buy yourself a NFL package.
Go watch the game in 59 minutes.
Go watch the film and then come talk to me and tell me what you see.
Okay, because I'll tell you what I see.
I see Carson looking too wide open receivers, and he doesn't throw him the ball.
Why? Because he's hesitating.
He's afraid to screw up.
That's never being what he was about ever.
Now, all of a sudden, that's what you have.
And I'm telling you right now, you don't just you don't just snap your finger and that just doesn't go away.
So where did it come from, then? Do you just wake up one day and decided that you're just lose all your confidence? I mean, he's rebounded pretty well from the injury.
What are the coaches telling him? Can you say Ricky, Bobby, we're back to that Good.
Nick is Ricky, Bobby, Ricky, Bobby.
That's what it is.
Ricky Bobby makes an appearance in our show.
John brought that up to you.
I'm John loves Ricky Bobby.
He likes Ricky Bobby.
Ricky Bobby Steeler fans.
I never saw that movie until by three years ago because, like, it was just like I never saw that movie.
And then now it's Z.
I mean, listen, this is like, uh, my question is, did Carson just wake up a training camp for cattle play football? E.
We're all asking the same thing.
We're not saying he's a bum.
He's having officers, but he still gets the chance to win. You can.
You can have a bad season.
It happens. Listen, that brings up a good point.
He brings up a good point, But the stuff that he's doing, though, al the stuff that Wences doing looks doesn't look like you're having a bad season like you got a bad deck of cards.
It looks like the questions and the decisions that he's making reads that he's not making it just it looks like a total regression, and that's where everybody has never played ball before.
It looks weird, right? Exactly.
Doesn't look like he even even belongs out there.
Here's the question. I got to everybody.
Everybody who came on this show, everybody who tweet last year about Oh, look with Carson did with nothing.
He had no wide receivers.
Carson's the best.
He took us to the playoffs with Great Ward.
Now all of a sudden Oh, no, don't yell at Carson.
He doesn't have enough receivers.
He's the same guy you were propping up last year.
Now you want to give any excuse.
He didn't give it the last year. It was the best.
Now, all of a sudden, he needs Come on, stop, You flip flop words that God e Oh my God, Tell us how you really feel. Keep going.
Seriously, like I don't understand it.
Everybody, everybody always wants to make excuses.
Go around the freaking NFL.
Every single team has lost.
Players has lost lineman.
They understand that. I get it.
Listen, how come when you look at other other teams, you watch other quarterbacks come in and they just can play like they just can play? Listen against E, you know, the San Francisco 40 Niners game, right? Nick Mullins was terrible.
Sucked ass, right? CJ Beth er comes in.
Listen, I was like a three course.
I couldn't go eight for eight.
If he tried this CJ friggin better.
Hold on, Hold on.
Let me take another direction.
Real quick. Good point that he's detained.
That he's continuing.
Doing that is is we've seen the same thing every single week.
I'm not disagree with you.
I want to know what your resolution to the whole thing.
I'm just waiting to talk.
I mean, in 17 minutes, that's alright because I'll give Dave the solution.
In my opinion No, no, it's no Paul.
Look, you guys, you guys, you guys, your hearts bleed the green.
But I still have my my opinion.
Eso I like you guys get in the air out and everything.
Look the but note whence is not playing good.
But you have to look at it like in a holistic approach.
Alright, this team is not jelling.
I mean, Mike, you said it.
You said the jelling.
There is no semblance.
See to this team, whence is not making good decisions.
You could blame it on the weapons.
Dave, I think you said Cooper Cup.
Do you see how many catches Cooper Cup had with guys actually blanket it on him and still caught the ball because it was thrown to him where you drown and what all I'm saying is whence isn't doing that? Whence Look, I'm not saying the guys were getting the receivers were getting wide open by any means.
I mean, a lot of times there's tight coverage.
You're an NFL quarterback and you can throw.
I don't even know what mile an hour fastball that those balls come out at.
You can laser one in there.
You gotta do taking a shot doing that versus Lazy River River.
Flaw Bob up over the top and going to cut it.
You know what I mean? Especially when you're throwing in the quadruple coverage for a Hail Mary like, What's that like? Who's gonna make an excuse for that dumb play? I'd love to hear the Twitter warriors on that one, and I'm not just sitting here bashing.
When I was the biggest went supporter.
Okay, the biggest went supporter, but let's call it out.
This is really what is my backup quarterback in my one league.
That's how much I am, like not a badger, but oh my goodness.
Every week after week, he gives me no reason to keep him But I can't.
I can't part with him.
I can't part with him then because, uh, but But here, this is my mentality, Whether it's fantasy or reality, it for me it's always streaks.
If you show me a streak of four good games, then you have a blow for two games.
I would, you know.
I mean, it's about what you do.
Okay, so whence comes out, you know, it's look he was not playing good.
But then Week six against Baltimore, he stages a comeback.
No pics, two touchdowns, then the following week.
Then he busts out for 3 50 plus or whatever. Two touchdowns.
Following week, he goes down.
Giants, you are.
What the now what, What? Three weeks? Was it? I don't know, but he's sitting there and he's putting up stats.
He's looking like he's decent.
Then he goes bad game, going into the by the by thinking that he's gonna come out.
He didn't and then the Cleveland game.
It was just like what the hell? So that was the breaker for me.
He had three decent games, and then it was like after it's like it's whatever the streak is if you have eight good games, then like you get a little bit of a blow toe, have three or four.
But he's really shown nothing other than that three game streak.
And yet you still hold on to him because you're holding on your holding him on your bench because you're just hoping that that flash of whence comes back.
And if he does, then wherever you get you got him at you got amazing value, like I got this guy on the bench, he's just gonna turn it around.
You're holding on to him, all right? And let's say that that never happens.
What was it like? Five.
Maybe 10 years ago.
She's been a while since I played fancy, but Maurice Jones drew.
We had that amazing year, and then the next year everybody had him up high and then he sucked.
And then he gets hurt.
Then I grabbed him on waivers because he was just sitting there and I kept him on my bench for like, 10 games and he did nothing.
But I always wanted to keep in the back of my mind that oh, this guy's gonna blow up.
I'm gonna keep the value.
I'm gonna sell them high. And he never did anything.
You're grasping onto this guy, hoping that everything turns around and I'm not saying you're an Eagles fan, John.
This is from a fantasy perspective, but I think maybe a lot of our fans are just doing this because we can't even fathom that $128 million franchise quarterback all of a sudden is garbage.
Just like the worst thing that happened to Philadelphia, especially during this pandemic bull**** this horrible year.
It's terrible, and we wanted the Eagles to do so good because we do believe Green.
You said it the right way and we cannot accept the fact that this guy might be done.
I'm not saying he is or he isn't, but it's It's super depressing.
Already in a very depressing year, I 100% agree because it's completely different, looking at it from an outsider perspective when it's like not really mattering, but like last year without Ben, like watching this, it's just like it, like wrenches your insides week after week after week, so I completely get it.
It's just it was It was the year and a half injury laden off M V P Caliber.
Like I know, this year has been a disaster.
And I mean, there are guys.
Look, I can't take him anymore, But the bottom line is, then he needs to be bench.
It comes from the top.
Look, you could I'm not a politics guy.
It's about what is right for the good.
And the good is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Alright? And that should come from the top going down.
And the good is what is now what do we have to do? Toe win? Okay, Not I understand.
Salary cap and **** is long term, but I'm just talking right now.
We gotta win, which gives you the best chance toe win.
And if that means Bension wince and our halftime and hurts comes in and wins the game and he gets to start wins the game, then he loses and you bring winds back.
Are you any worse? Often three wins that you got.
Not necessarily, but again it could.
It could be job security.
Tony brought up the interesting point.
A couple of weeks ago by saying, We don't know how hard Peterson went in and said, You got to draft this guy went this guy went is amazing.
You don't know if he was knocking on Rosen's door every five seconds.
You don't know if Rosen was doing that.
You don't know if they were both conspiring to tell Laurie. We're gonna take went.
He's the best. He's the best, the best.
So probably say that. Tony.
Tony, you brought up a point.
You brought up a point a couple of weeks ago, about two on the practice field, and the Miami Dolphins had this epiphany saying, We have to get these kids on the field.
We have to get him on the field because of what he was doing in practice.
Possibly that was the scenario of bench in fits magic.
Right? So maybe is it possible that the eagles air looking at earth right now and saying, You know what? I don't see him being better than what Carson can give us. Maybe.
No, that can't be a possibility.
No, I don't think it iss Why? Wait? Hold on.
No, we got, like, 30 questions.
I don't wanna know Let's get Thio comments.
First questions. Right then.
All right, So Bill says, I would say, this is a coach again.
Highly respectable guy Bills a coach just like Coach Dave Wentz is awful.
But if Taylor isn't showing me something to make me believe he is the guy to turn it around, I would have a tough time putting it him in.
So that's the today.
But I'm gonna answer that.
The second Bob Lynch.
He's a fan, revolving door towline and wide receiver.
So he's an excuse guy.
No offense, Bob.
Okay, Losing Frank.
Right? Play call.
That's another the Frank right now, that's all. I'm done with that.
This. You're too many headbutts.
Uh, Al says I heard the doctor say at least five times, the wide receivers can't get any separation.
Let me tell you something.
Okay, but Jonah loses the same thing.
So you know what I teach? A Jonah will agree with this.
You know I teach Why Soccer kids all the time.
You have about a centimeter.
If you have a centimeter, that's enough room that take a shot on net.
The same thing you have a centimeter.
Get the gods to make a play.
Unfortunately, he doesn't do that.
They're baiting them, though.
Those quarterbacks from those safeties air baiting him because they know he's gonna make a bad decision.
You can see they're just sitting on routes waiting for him to throw the ball their way.
They're just waiting there waiting. Yes.
It is so freaking predictable.
And I don't tell me.
I know you mentioned it before.
I'm not saying that your stance now, but don't tell me that you're dumbing down the offense, not you told.
I'm just saying, Don't tell me you're dumbing down the offense to the point that they know what you're doing.
And that is like, the dumbest thing you could dio.
Kevin ain't seen in a long time, brother.
Checking in, right.
You can't have it both ways.
He's back back to the When I was going off about the fans, you know, last year was great for Carson.
You know, he took no receivers and government in the playoffs.
Now, this year they want the other way.
They're they're complaining about it.
Ryan says tell dog. Run the ball.
Lyman. Get two yards in the backs.
Two or three more run down the hill with Love of Toronto.
He's not gonna do it.
Why? Why wouldn't he do it? Why wouldn't? Because it chose it because it actually works, right? They ran the ball all the way down the field and then they fumbled it on the five yard line.
That's when the drink went halfway across the halfway across the living room.
Okay, that was the most frustrating part of the whole game.
You know, this is for you. Go Steelers.
Dave. There are mo.
Is that your boy? Do Nice.
That's my boy, Ted.
Law ahead of law ahead.
Nissan rather rearranges closet than waste of Sunday night watching went.
So I'm going to say that is a great point, David.
OK, that's my buddy Normie.
Uh, he's always spinning the truth.
Norm is a big Dolphins fan, and he's been a Dolphins fan for a long time during the rebuilding.
And let's just say right now he's got a big smile on his face, but he's right about ball hit.
I love it. And also the couple sees gonna hold it.
Felt that car is done.
Cut or trade him.
Now look the season he's having, right? Uh, you know, you see that car consistency, Steve says.
One other thing that bothers me.
There's no accountability anywhere on the scene from Halle, all the way down to the players on the field.
They look unprepared, pre snap penalties on offense, jumping offsides on defense. Nothing changes.
Nobody's held accountable signs.
I'm a poor locker room, in my opinion.
We get a couple more, then we'll start talking.
Fair weather fan Mikey Goose.
Oh, dude, what's that? Wow, That's taking shots.
You've already Google already.
A Bob Carr went through Tina Focus on offense with a good old line.
Kevin checking it again.
It's time fans used the rial eyes about when you Jamaar checking in.
What's up tomorrow? Why draft Jalen hurts then.
If he's not gonna play, why draft? Um, right eyes.
Your line band with Sanders is averaging six yards a carry.
Kevin, thank you.
Here's what I wanna I love this.
Well, Kevin, let's get into that one.
Let's get into this because our O line sucks so bad we have a revolving door.
He's got no old lineman.
6.1 yards per carry.
Yeah, they suck, They asked their ****ing terrible.
They dropped the F bomb, But I just did.
They are brutal.
So bad that Boston Scott had a 53 yard touchdown the other day.
Yeah, he sucks to rent.
That's not use that play again.
Dumb idea. A break, man.
Give me a break. Indeed.
Okay, let let let's go.
So I gotta get my thoughts together again.
Okay, So what? What? What was what? What? What was I? Oh, I know No chance.
This is why there was.
There's no chance that they don't see what they could see out of Jalen hurts.
I'm telling you right now, I'll say it again.
Doug Peterson gets a chubby thinking about what he can dio with Jalen hurts.
Doug Peterson has probably 50 plays.
He wants to run right now with Jalen hurts.
But you know what? He's not doing it.
You know why? Because he scared.
I'm telling you, he's scared. Two reasons.
Number one, Jeffrey Loria, Like you said, Carson Wentz is Jeffs boy.
Okay, and again, we've already heard about how he pulling shots.
Okay, So I don't think Dog even has the authority to remove Carson Wentz.
And if he did, he knows **** well that Jalen Hurts is probably going to do something.
I'm not saying when a bunch of games, but do something, the spark, the offense, and then I will add I will add this that you could talk.
Okay, s so I don't mean the socket ****.
I'm just saying e nobody saying anything.
You go right ahead.
That came off that came off a little weird.
But at the end of the day here, here's what I'm gonna say.
If Carson Wentz is that bad, okay? And Jalen Hurts goes in and does a little bit.
Gets a spark, gets the team hopping.
How do you go back to your your locker room and tell them now that you're taking him back out and put the stiff back in, how do you do it? Seriously, how? It's the same.
It's the same thing.
You know what? And and answer me to this day. Carson.
What? We don't want to make a move.
This is dog because it signals the end of the season.
Are you kidding me? Which you just killed the kids? Confidence already? Yes.
If he got a game, you're telling him that if he gets in, he's a human victory.
You should have said that.
Yeah, it's just terrible.
Because don't just stiff to look again.
That's I'm just saying That's exactly why Jalen Hurts should have had I'm saying.
Over, what? 10 weeks? 11 weeks of the NFL season.
He should have at least 20 pass attempts.
How many does he have? Zero.
No, he has a couple.
You should have at least 20 to give him a shot to see.
I'll go back and does have.
I'll go back to what you said a couple weeks ago, John.
They should have put him in for a Siri's at a time.
They haven't even decided to do that.
Now why you tell me why The guy that Tony thinks has all these plays for him and maybe he does? I don't know.
Why wouldn't they give him an opportunity to play a Siri's? They're afraid of trying to win.
Are you telling me that the Eagles coaching staff is afraid to try and win the game.
Maybe doesn't have the packages.
Maybe you're trying to not lose.
Is Jalen hurts? Backup quarterback? Yes.
Okay, So you're telling May that Coach has no place for him.
And if Carson Wentz gets hurt, he's un prepared to go in the game.
I don't know where you're coming from with that. I never said that.
No, no, no, no, no.
Because you're telling me that you just said that you made a sarcastic comment about dog having all these planes for Jalen hurts.
What I'm saying is, if they didn't think he could play, why would you be the number two quarterback on the depth chart? Because they're told to make him the number two quarterback again.
So let me and I'm gonna ask a really dumb question.
I don't know if this is right, but seriously, So if if Carson Wentz goes down who come, it has to be the number two quarterback, right? They can't just pick somebody else to come in.
Correct? It has.
Well, they did with their third string or whatever who they have, Was it Brian Hoyer or whatever, But this is what I'm asking on this question.
So if Jalen Hurts is your number two quarterback on game day and your number three quarterback is date Sudfeld.
If Carson Wentz gets hurt, can they say we wanna bring Sudfeld in or doesn't? I think it has to be the backup. Correct.
That's why they have the list.
Um 123 Okay, so my question to you and everybody else in Twitter land, is it? Jalen hurts.
Can't play worth a ****.
Why? So you're number two, quarterback.
Well, maybe they made him the number two quarterback at the beginning of the year because they just draft them and thought they'd be able to mold him into something.
And Peterson gets more than halfway through the season and doesn't like what he sees and doesn't tell anybody.
And they just, you know, they're just praying wins doesn't get hurt.
Maybe he's gonna cross that bridge when he gets so we don't have any idea like he had every every single week.
He has a decision in the flip flop.
If Jalen hurts can't play, put him at number three, then.
Well, then you know you're right.
The New Orleans Saints did with their their kids.
You know what you're gonna talk about Taste until I got something to say on that.
Dave, Thanks for bringing that up real quick.
You know, hold on one second you got you got last year when Bridgewater was on the team s.
So it was It was breeze was your number one? Bridgewater was your number two.
Then Tyson was your three, and he got in the games the same situation he brought.
He was brought into the game as a gadget guy listed at the number three, right? Yeah.
We could do the same thing.
The Eagles could do the same exact thing.
What if they have him more focused on the backup role, though? What if they have him really preparing to be the number two to take all that? All the reps? You know, Maybe they have him more focused towards that because, like, he's getting many of those tastes and he'll gadget plates and for anybody wants to come out and say, You know, you could just put a guy like Taysom Hill in and look what he did with saints.
Guess what? Nobody's got any film on him all right as soon as they get film on you.
The NFL, right? Not for long.
I don't know who came up with that acronym, but that's been going around for a while.
But soon as it's there and they figure it out, he's That's defensive coordinators.
That's their job.
They have every possible camera angle.
They have every piece of technology.
They're gonna figure out what you're doing.
And once you figure it out, they shut you down.
It's a wildcat offense, lasted a year, worked for a while.
Um, you know, all this stuff works for a while, and then it goes away, and there's a reason for that.
So, you know, perhaps he's only getting I only think that guy Taysom Hill did something because nobody really knows, You know, maybe they didn't know how to defend against him.
And I heard some other commentator talking about that this morning on ESPN, and it really brought up, you know? It brought a light.
It got me thinking, If they don't have film on you, right, it makes total sense.
But the ones that are in the league for a while I mean, look at Lamar Jackson I mean, you know, people.
All of a sudden last year he was like, Oh, my God, is that I had people tell me he was the best quarterback in the league.
My son told me that.
I said, What what are you talking about? He's the best quarterback in the league because they all love the running quarterbacks because it's like the new toy in its new shiny Well, I think it was calling.
I think it was heard of this morning.
Colin are He said something like The running quarterbacks are great.
It's the fat of the NFL.
But they don't last very long, you know, because they take somebody hits and because they just can't get hit a lot.
Right? So, yeah, There you go.
He's lasted quite some time, but he's not the Cam Newton of old, obviously.
Wasn't Lamar D M v p.
Last year, Maher was like everybody wanted Lemar, you know? I mean, he was the man and Tony to your point.
I don't really No, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic about Jalen.
No one plays or not, but I Honestly I don't I don't care about any of that stuff.
I don't get excited about what this reporter says about whence or what if he sucks? We know he sucks her 36 and one.
My point is, what's the alternative? What's your answer? Do you give up on Carson Wentz, or is he the best chance for you to win? Ah, potential Super Bowl in the next? Not this year, because they suck in the next year, two or three.
That's what you have to figure out and stop worrying about him sucking this year.
But what if they don't wanna put hurts in there because they don't wanna make? They're gonna put him in in the middle of a train wreck and destroy his confidence to I mean, if they know if they tough ****, that's yeah, I agree.
Dave, I agree with you 100%.
If you're that fragile and you can't deal with it, look, and too bad, then you don't belong on the Eagles.
You know, we've seen many quarterbacks in their careers ruined because of inept coaching leadership.
Man, Come on, you guys know I've seen a lot of quarterbacks ruined because of the Eagles fan base.
Just fashion um, like may like May.
I'm sorry, don McNabb.
I'm sorry I'm right.
Do don't tell me about a benching is gonna ruin a guy's confidence, but not like 70,000 Eagles fans screaming down, wasted on a Sunday difference.
I'll kind of shut me up because I was waiting for somebody to say that.
We all know it's huge there to be run blocking the pain.
Thank you, I got it.
I block way easier to pass blocking.
I know, I know another.
Know that the excuse narrative train keeps it going.
Is it excuse? Or is it a fact? My boy Rick says, he says, Get E making North Catholic proud.
Hey, baby North Catholic alum.
Not too much to drink. Blood pressure.
Tony, calm down.
It's a holiday season.
This is where I said, I love this quote by Andre, he says.
Miami's coach, which is Bryan Flores, which we love had quoted a week.
I pulled to it because I'm trying to win the game.
I don't care who was under center gives us the best chance.
So when I got it like that, that's exactly what I said.
Exactly what I mean, yeah, you're Andre.
You're right on its look it At some point, if you're a manager of I don't care what it is, I don't care if you have toe get note pad sold at the register at the door, and it's all about getting it done.
You have to get it done today.
Now, this week, you need a win.
You're in first place.
You gotta You gotta win the ballgame.
Alright? So and and it's different when you're dealing with potentially.
I mean, we're all coaches.
Potentially you're dealing with, you know, kids that you have toe these air, all adult grown men.
Dude, I'll bring if I'm the head coach, I'm bringing my two quarterbacks and I'm saying, All right, guys, what are we doing? Look, I know you both want to win the game.
Look, Carson, you ain't playing that good.
Do you want what? What do you think? Look, I want to give you every shot go out there in the first half, But look, if we're done, if you're not performing Jalen, be ready to go in.
This is not and that doesn't mean crap for next week.
I don't know what the conversation is with their grown men.
They all have contracts.
Their contracts are there.
You gotta play to win the game.
Way to win the game.
We should've cue that up from Herman, where that's the best guaranteed money.
59 million dead cap hit.
If they caught him next year, that's That's the guaranteed that Z think of that.
Jalen Hurts came in right, and he played really well and they couldn't go back to Carson.
If they don't trade Carson, he's a $34 million backup quarterback.
Yeah, so do you see why I said they're scared? You don't worry about what that man, I'm telling you.
He's a Chase Daniels A.
He's a Chase Daniels on roids.
That's what that contract is.
It's an albatross Now.
It's like the worst contract and league.
Could you imagine? Everybody thinks that's the worst contract in the league.
Where is Chase Daniels that he still playing? He is.
What a bum he waas.
I'm just saying Look, it may be the worst contract in the league, but it doesn't matter if you if you get the winds, it doesn't matter.
You deal with the worst contract in the league.
Look at Al Horford.
That was the worst contract in the league and they somehow got rid.
I don't know how that guy got rid of that contract and we'll get to that.
No, I can't wait to talk about that.
The point is like worry about later.
You gotta win the ballgame now hurts.
Win comes in and wins the game.
He sorts the next game.
He wins that game.
He doesn't come out until he loses.
If he wins four games, he has to lose two in a row before he comes out.
Alright, in your I don't disagree.
But what do you think made John? What do you think made them stop running the ball when they had so much success at it? And you know what everybody brought? Andrew brought up an interesting point.
That run blocking apparently is a lot easier than pass blocking.
They say that it is, I don't know.
I never touched a football and any type of sport and score anything.
I was the last person to be picked on every team, so believe me, I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
When it comes to this kind of experience, but from what I've read, it's supposed to be easier.
Why did they just stop? Why stop using something that works? I never understood that about Peterson.
What is that? It's like Andy Reid.
Stuff like, Yeah, Andy Reid did the same ****. That's unexplainable.
I mean, how how do you come up with? They get into a certain part of the field and they go up with their, you know, mathematical equations, saying our propensity to score is throwing the football here.
Well, no, it's not.
Run it down and throats until they stop you.
Is that what you think it is? You think they're running the game all through some spreadsheet on Excel? That's what that's what's happening right now.
You think the whole game is dictated by this e.
I believe ****ytics has a big part of his play calling.
Yeah, he's still a guy that that does.
He scripts the 1st 10 plays a lot.
That's all Andy Reid stuff.
So you're you see the next the next 10 stats popping up again.
If you think that they're running it like a model, you think the model spits out all the place that they that they should call that have a statistically best chance of winning.
Tell me they're not doing that.
All right. So I'll play to you this way.
I believe when they get into the red zone and they dialed in their defense for the week, what they're going up against.
Statistically, this defense gives up 80% of their past plays in the red zone.
So they're not going to run the ball.
When? When That defense doesn't do well against the past and the regimen.
They're gonna no question about that, no question about that.
And I'm sure they have a select play of saying, You know what? These guys were weak in the end zone.
They can't cover tight ends of the, you know, the five of my top plays.
We're gonna be to the tight end.
But what I'm curious about is if they're letting some sort of an algorithmic play calling thing happened because nobody can can explain the dumb things that the guy does and the things that he calls like no rational coach would call these plays in this order.
Something Seems we're here.
To your credit, and I think about it.
If he is doing exactly what you think or what we just talked about.
Instead of coaching the game by feel like Philly Philly, what's the quarterback called and he agreed to, You know, it could be a simple as that, but there's no thought this this eagle season.
What has been going on is absolutely the craziest thing that we've ever seen as a fan based or 36 and one, and in first place at the NFC East that this is crazier than the railroads era.
This is crazier than the Rich Kotite error.
For all of you know, the guys have been watching the Eagles and gals have been watching the Eagles for that long.
It just makes no Washington area.
Yeah, this is Jamaar.
Second, since Jalen has gotten, Jalen has got to spark each time and he has a high Heisman finalist and natty championship.
Basically, Tim Tebow winner is a winner.
Um, I agree, all right? I mean, listen, you know what's that? No, he's not.
He's not what? But I think I I don't think he meant that.
Um, El says my boys on fire they love it.
Yeah, we love you back out, so I'm gonna give Tony hug, Andre says.
I said in the call map and to the TRO.
Andre says he's fired up, but I've actually love it.
I can't help you.
I'm in jigs all mode tonight.
Um, Bill says, I gotta sign off.
Happy ties Given said this proudly Thanksgiving coach.
Frankfurt High School, Go North Catholic.
Hey is in the bill is the North Catholic alumni.
But he's the head coach of Frankfurt High School, and I'll tell you what to give quick.
I don't think he's on.
I think he did sign off, but just to give him a quick shot out.
He's done tremendous things for the community and those kids off Frankfurt.
I'll tell you what, he There's a lot.
Everybody knows there's a lot of stuff going on in Philly.
Gun violence is through the roof on, he asked, Absolutely had given up.
He gave up his weekends.
He opened up the gym for all the kids that have sleepovers with him and, you know, playing video games, pool tables to keep them occupied, get him off the street and give them something to dio e.
I mean, they he's been on the news that great job, man.
Amazing that we need more people like that in this world.
Um, Kevin says if Doug calls a play that players could open, Carson looks the receiver open and doesn't throw it, holds onto the ball and takes a sack.
So that's dog's fault is what he's asking.
This this The problem here is the one they're gonna say.
A O Andre says that must be whiskey bride.
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This is exactly what this is.
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Look what's going on here, you morons! This is what we're talking about.
Okay, so at the end of the day, what happened? Say you're Dave.
You're absolutely right.
Who would have thought this is? This is unheard of What's going on with the scene? Right.
But here's the problem.
We have the ultimate worst coats to be able to take us out of it.
That's the problem.
We have zero confidence.
That's the other end of this.
So if this team is broken, were expected dog Peterson, the turn this thing around.
Is that what we're All our hopes are on? Doug Peterson.
Seriously, that the guy nobody wanted The guy who doesn't even sound like an NFL football coats standing up at the podium.
Okay, The guy who has, uh, let me think about, uh well, yeah, well, stop.
No, I Seriously, I got a good question.
What? I think it's a good question for all three of you.
Would you rather have McVeigh and whence or Peterson and golf.
Because this is what it comes down to.
Whatever your answer is is gonna be who's at fault for the most part, I'll go first.
I'll tell you right now, because I can't stand Doug Peterson, okay? Because he's a stiff.
Okay? He is the right man.
I'm sorry that this is the dog we knew.
This is the dog we knew. He waas.
He is what we thought he waas Wait, where's Daddy? Green? Where is he? I I need Daddy Green right now.
Let him off the hook.
But But anyway, John, give me Give me McDreamy all day long.
Give me MK value.
Give me my I believe, you know, At least McVeigh's got some balls.
I don't think I don't think he said, Well, I don't think he's a McVeigh and whence he said McVeigh in God.
Didn't you know, you or your golf? It's your It's golf versus Lance and McVeigh and Peterson.
If you swap them.
What para do you want? So, Dave, do you want once in McVeigh or Goff with Peterson? I'm gonna get what? Come here on.
I'm gonna take McVeigh in once and McVeigh is a Jon Gruden disciple, Correct? Yes.
Yeah, I'll take.
So and Mike once again, irrelevant if you're on the Rams or the Eagles.
The point is, you have that pairing.
Where where do you like that pairing better? When we talked about last week, we're talking about who we would build a coach around.
I'm a McVeigh fan, and I would love to see him with Carson Wentz.
I'm not a golf fan at all, although I, you know, I still feel he's serviceable, but I would pick went over golf, and maybe I shouldn't.
Maybe I've seen enough from whence to not think that way, but I still feel that whence could be fixed.
I just think whatever is going on is mental, man, so we could say socks.
He's this and he's that.
I just think that there's something not right up there right now, and I don't know.
I agree with you, and that's that's why I asked the question, because you look at it now.
All four of us choose McVeigh and Wentz over Peterson and golf.
So what does that tell you about the problem with the Philadelphia Eagles? I mean, to me, it's clear, Is they? I'm I'm What? Wow, They have been bashing Lori from the beginning.
I love it, but you understand what I'm saying.
We're saying that if once had a better coach, we would take the better coach with Winston.
We would with golf, who's having a pretty darn good season in freaking Doug Peterson.
So we hate Doug Peterson more than we do Carson Wentz, and we show like comment right there.
Tony, I've been talking about this to you have 2017 and 2018.
Who was who was went offensive coordinator.
Tony was waiting for this.
Hey, was just He was Just calm down.
Now, Dave, you're gonna get him started again.
Why don't you know any mother with you s? How come you don't understand consistency with coaching? How come that's hard for you to figure out? S.
So here's my question.
So this guy is that fragile, that he can Onley be coached by one guy and no right, Because the quarterback whisper, Where's Steve Filipo at? Now way.
Nobody wants nobody wants.
So why can't we take him back.
E have to turn your volume wave.
Hold on if you forgive me if I'm wrong here but they d Filipo get fired from Jacksonville, they ****ing blow.
Maybe that's why he got fired.
If they kept him, he would have won seven. Yeah.
Was he There went board when they went to the play officer.
Now, what's that you talk about my boy? Bortles.
Was Flippo there when they went to the playoffs? No, he was He was with us when Bortles was bombing in the fourth quarter.
Went up 40 a game in the fourth quarter.
And he won me my fantasy league.
I loved Bernal's.
I don't think so.
Look it up, Dave.
Tommy, I'm not I'm not looking it up all its I'm alright.
Give me a consistent coaching staff first.
Okay, let me let me let me throw some and I agree with you, Dave.
Consistency is que no question about it.
Let me just throw something out.
Can I say something? Absolutely.
E Want to throw a scenario past you guys? It's my turn to ask questions, you know, consistent e waste my three seconds consistent, consistent coaching staff happens when you have a consistent quarterback.
That's a good point.
You know, I know you maybe forget what I was gonna ask.
Oh, no. Sorry. I got it.
You know, that's a good. That's a good point.
Okay, so we've talked for weeks about how bad it is, and we just get on this roll, right? Because we all vent and we're emotional. All right.
So let's look at the problem.
Like something that we need to fix that we're consultants.
We were brought in to fix it.
What do we do for next year? Let's just forget about whatever is gonna happen this year.
What could we dio? Should Doug bring in an offensive coordinator? And if he does bring in an offensive coordinator, who should it be? Right? What about the quarterbacks, coach? Um, what should we do there? Right.
Let's just say that he's made the decision that he's gonna go with when he's going to stick with once.
What should be fixed in order to right the ship? Just from a quarterback coaching offensive perspective.
Never mind the injuries.
Let's not even talk about now.
Um, what we Dio.
So first thing you have to dio is you have to figure out just like you said.
Like, are you saying we don't? There's no hurts involved in situ.
Well, I think he's made that pretty clear.
Alright, So Peterson has made his mind up.
Unless that Jeffrey lawyer comes down and changes his mind because lorry does that sometimes to him.
I don't think I think that he's decided he's gonna go with whence, for better or for worse.
Now we have Carson Wentz, okay? And I'm gonna take this.
I'm gonna take this even deeper, okay? I'm gonna take this even deeper.
Let me ask you guys just quite some based off what you just said, Mike.
So we're looking in 2021.
If Pearson wants to be that ignorant, okay, to the fact that his quarterback is sink a sinking ship right now, and he doesn't wanna put Jalen hurts in.
So say we get, like, a top three pick because we suck so bad Now, we're not even looking a quarterback.
If a quarterback dropped doors in the draft now, we can't even look at him.
Oh, no. We can't look at him.
Okay, Because now you don't even know what you have with the guy who drafted last year.
So this is my point.
You're not doing your due diligence as the organization to at least find out if you have something because you **** well could have a top three pick in the draft this year.
All right, You know what? You're right.
Now, you guess what if everything you just said is right And what if they know Hurts is good? What if they know they're done with winds and they're just saying whatever they can say to get through the rest of the season because they know they're gonna suck and they're gonna draft high, and they're gonna go right after a killer quarterback.
We're throwing all kinds of crazy scenarios out right now.
Who knows? I mean, that's possible.
Maybe they just know hurts complained.
They've seen enough, and they don't wanna put him in the middle of that **** show.
I don't know, man.
I I just I just My thing is, wants it for all.
Well, that's why one hurts to go in.
I'm not saying, I want hurt again.
Everybody looks at saying I'm out on went I'm not.
What I'm saying is it's your job as a head coach to win football games.
You're right. You're right.
So? So my my my thought process is.
Why now? Why? I mean, why not now? You have nothing to lose.
You have zero to lose to find out if this kid has something, has something.
And maybe Carson doesn't need a mental break.
Maybe he needs to sit down.
Maybe he needs that.
We've heard and he's been stubborn.
We've heard that he doesn't want to change.
He said it himself.
Every press conference. I'm not changing.
Carson don't change.
You've been freaking terrible all year, so keeping a terrible don't change, right? So if that's the case, maybe he needs a wake up call.
Maybe he's too stable right now.
Maybe that's the problem.
Maybe he doesn't have to look over his shoulder because they got rid of Nick Foles.
Right? And I hate Nick.
Folding sucks too.
Okay, but Nick Foles supposedly what's the cop of Geo That's got you? You know, Nick Foles has a statue for Christ sake.
Here's a statue Statue, Nick Foles.
But you had to convince Ricky Bobby that he wasn't paralyzed.
Okay, It's the same thing you have to convince.
You have to You have to convince Carson Wentz that he can throw the ball and complete a pass in a tight window.
This dude, he Oh, dude, I need a drink.
Mark says don't go on the offensive line.
Yeah, I mean, they could have drafted an offensive lineman, but they drafted Jalen hurts, and they did draft Andre Dillard.
What's your thoughts on door tone? Uh, listen, uh, I think he's soft.
I dio I think I think you're watching again.
You're watching a guy that that, you know, You're hoping he's just not it.
I Listen, I know you gotta hurt this year.
He was a turnstile out there, and you could say whatever you want, but you're either good or you don't just automat.
Listen, here's the problem.
Boy, my a lot of here's a kid who has never played football before, right? So you give him that time you're saying Listen, I don't even know footwork.
You don't know he doesn't know hand motions.
He doesn't know anything.
So you're willing to say he's a project? You take the guy in the first round.
If he can't play, he's never gonna be able to play.
Sorry, he's done.
You should have a project in the first round.
No, no projects.
That means he directed the wrong guy again.
Sorry, drafted the wrong.
So, Tony, I agree with about 70% of the stuff you talked about tonight, but and here's here's the Here's the point, and I do agree with this.
You need you need on this.
Goes back to giving John credit the Earth needs Earth, needs to get on the field and play to see what we got and and then, Mike, I'll bring you into this.
You you put a great play on words with what if we were the people that fix all this stuff.
So if we are the people to fix all this stuff, we have to do what Tony and John said.
Earth has to play.
If he can play in this in this league, and he can win you games and he has a future, then you got to get rid of somehow trade Carson Wentz.
But before you do all that, you asked if we're Doug Peterson is staying, there's so many variables involved, and this is my point about this whole program.
If Doug Peterson is staying and he's your guy, you're the boss of him.
Mike, don't you wanna make dog comfortable and let dog pick his OSI, his quarterback coach, and they didn't allow him to do that.
They did not allow him to do that.
Howie Roseman and Jeffrey Lori picked his guys for him.
That air coaching Carson.
Right now that's a great point.
That's a great point, and nobody's talking about that.
They don't listen to me.
We for everybody seemed to forget about that.
That lorry basically came down and made that decision, and we don't know if Roseman was involved.
But I'm sure it was because their buddies and I'm sure that Lori doesn't do anything without talking Roseman.
Rosen's got that kind of power in the Eagles organization, so if they did do that, it certainly makes sense.
And now, maybe Peterson's looking at Lori saying, Dude, you pulled away the staff that I wanted. I mean, you intervene.
I mean, I can't see Peterson saying anything like that.
I think Peterson's a very yes man, I think is a yes, sir, I don't I I would hope that he would be standing up for saying or maybe doesn't need to say anything at all because of the results of that has been completely disastrous.
And, you know, maybe they're just putting when some saying, Look, we're gonna fight through the rest of the year.
I don't have the support system we need, but I guess the story is gonna be told in the off season, Dave, Because if they start making moves on the coaching system and they throw out these other guys, that lorry basically, uh, when you know, Laurie intervened in a very important decision and they make changes and stuff like that, I mean, it's gonna be pretty obvious that, you know, Peterson really didn't really didn't want these guys to begin with.
He had his own staff picked, and they were told that he that he wasn't coming back.
I mean, the whole thing is just complete the boggle.
We'll never really know the truth.
And and on the field, it looks just like I've been pretty consistent with this.
What you see on the field is what you're getting in the office and when you get in which get the Andre first, Andre says, went at the same guy who tried to fix Marquel.
Folks jump shot, Stop Wants.
Needs to put his big boy pants on a play like a like a good NFL quarterback.
Enough, I agree, and I was gonna go point here and I agree with this.
This is just like some shows where Tony just runs things and I don't agree this isn't an excuse, but take a look.
85% of starting quarterbacks in NFL have a number one wide receiver.
We don't ah, person of quarterback and count on Listen, Al, I agree.
But what? I will ask the masses off Eagle fans and moronic ****yst who think they know.
They told me Travis Foege, um wasn't elite live receiver.
Who told you that? Right? Right.
But I'm saying this is what they could say.
Oh, Zach Ertz is elite.
I've heard Dallas God, it's the second coming, Okay? And I hear Jalen Jalen rigor when you're crazy.
Did you watch him A T c U but the TCU cause stop.
And then I get to hear about right.
We already know about right. He sucks.
I heard about Okay, he's hurt.
Okay, I heard that Fogle local.
He is the real deal.
This guy is elite.
Well, those same people, the same people telling me now.
Well, Carson needs help.
Why does he need help? But no, I know that's not you, but no, I agree.
Listen, they paid the wrong guy. Al. Sean.
And I go back to this again, Go back.
I want everybody to do me a favor.
Okay? Listen to this show.
Does I got a memory.
I could tell you what I wore in eighth grade Alshon Jeffery what he signed in Philadelphia.
He said his exact words waas, This is a stepping stone.
That's what he said.
This is a stepping stone.
He signed here with one year deal, remember? Because nobody wanted to give him a big money deal, right? He signed here to get paid and do **** and that's what E paid and did.
Doesn't want that.
He hopped off, had the thing with Josina, right? All these things come into play.
So again paid the wrong guy.
DeSean Jackson traded for him and then gave him a three year deal.
Paid the wrong guy.
We can't draft the wide receiver because we always draft the wrong guys, right? We always draft the wrong guys, so yeah, Carson.
But I will say one thing.
I was told by everybody that Zach Ertz was a number one.
Tight end Zach Ertz was elite Zach Ertz.
Who caught How Maney, over 100 balls from Carson Wentz.
That's pretty much the number one guy, in my opinion.
It was his reliable That was his reliable, for sure.
Sure, definitely have them this year.
Not not exactly right.
Not exactly doing that back.
So that's in the fifth season.
Eagles haven't gotten enough disgraceful, but l I let the boys I know being commanding. I'm very sorry.
I just have so much apologize, Man, you're on a roll.
Here's the thing.
We should have apologized Thanksgiving we're talking about right now.
talk to us, Tony, talk to us.
We're here for you know who else? That statement that al just said.
And I don't want to rehab and get a big conversation.
We talked about this last week.
Went to this fifth season.
Eagles haven't got a number one yet.
Well, same thing was said about Donovan McNabb.
That's where I was gonna.
We've been there before on previous shows, and we talked about the whole stiff list with torrents Small and James Thrash and Todd Stinks in and all the rest of these bums that McNabb did things that man, I'm so sorry.
I You know, I'm gonna take this time to personally apologize to Donovan McNabb If you're watching this, if you are, it's pretty freaking cool if you are.
I'm so very sorry.
McNabb was very hard on you.
Um, you did amazing things and you had literally nothing.
So maybe maybe that's it.
You know, maybe we're all making a unfair comparison because of the things that McNabb was able to dio.
And maybe he gets a pass on behalf of the side of the of the fans that think that he really needs number one being al included in these.
Sort of on that on that side.
Um, it would be nice to have a number one, but to your point tone, that his number one, I think, really was Zachary Zachary was the reliable guy, you know, that was always his guy.
And when he when Zach Ertz is out, I would be interesting to see the data on how Carson Wentz does from a win and lost perspective when he doesn't play with Zach Ertz.
Very curious about that.
Al says Ertz is great tight end, but still, but he isn't a wide receiver.
Yeah, but I agree with you, Tony.
Earth's is not elite, though I understand what your point was that he waas he wasn't one point.
Hey, wasn't as good as a Travis Kelsey or, uh, telling me the year that he called 100 balls.
You wouldn't say that he was a top three tight end.
I mean, I had an amazing season.
My number's my number is the only reason why they don't call me leave because he can't throw block right? Is that whatever this because he wants a hybrid his running catches the same e his eyes like a one point let's.
I used to follow the ground all the time.
I forgot about that.
Zack would catch, and it's tough on the ground immediately.
Yeah, I completely forgot about that.
I'm going to disagree with you, Dave.
I don't think it was.
I think Kelsey does a better job getting open.
Earth was in the scene where he was actually getting looked at frequently Looking at Earth's in the middle.
I think that's a Kittle was just ah, whole.
I mean, they rolled him out wide.
I mean, he's a healthy.
They're freaking athletes.
Yeah, A to me Kittel ISMM or of a wide receiver.
I'm saying, If you take the three of them, Kittel is more of a receiver and Kelsey Kelsey is He is a tight end, big body frame.
They can do what he wants, but I feel like Kettle is more nimble.
But that's what I think.
E I think he was.
I think it is now, but I think he definitely waas.
He's holding out right now.
I believe he is holding out, but it may be a little bit Yeah, yeah, for sure, and that's just really bad.
That really says a lot about his character because he was really loved in the city of Philadelphia and for him to go and do. That's terrible.
I mean, should they should they have paid him when they're giving out big money? That Al, Shaun Geoffrey when they're giving out money to dish on Jackson here? Zach Ertz.
He put all this work and he's probably like, Where's my contract? That he Yeah, he did.
You're right. I forgot about that.
That was dumber.
Your stupid fire.
Your agent was a chance that Chicago forgot about that completely.
With folds in Chicago.
That's a good one.
Now they got Jimmy Graham out there.
Is he still playing? And no, he won't even go.
She's not still in the league.
Is he really? I forgot about him.
Tainan's last long.
How long the Antonio Gates last the last, if what? 13 14 season.
He had, like the biggest ass in football.
That was like my go to fantasy tight end for years.
Yeah, they both had a lot of junk in the trunk right there.
E don't know how they ran PPR Platinum League member when he got Remember what Crumpler got popped by Brian Dawkins.
Remember? I watched that clip 1000 times. You got destroyed.
Um believe Andre, says Kelsey In Kindle or yak producers, Earth is a fall after Cats player.
He's you know what he is Fat Lewis.
Remember, Chad, fall down chat every time tack on the ball.
He fell down every time.
Okay, so you know why there's another another feather in McNabb's cab.
Little McNabb gets hey, got all that production out of people like Chad Lewis, Jeff Thomason, Geoff Thompson.
Check that out. The T wasn't.
Remember when Thomas I got the call for the Super Bowl.
What was he doing? What was he was like because he working it Wasn't he working at Home Depot or something? He was like E.
Everybody comes over those stories like, Oh, when they called Kurt Warner, he was in ShopRite bagging groceries.
It's so like a laboratory.
Yeah, Kurt Warner was actually Yeah, he had a can ish candy sweet potatoes, and he was put into my bag and he was like, Yeah, And then his agent called and his I'm sorry.
I can't finish stock in the shelf.
I gotta go play.
I gotta go play in the Super Bowl.
Like what Makes this crap? I just got a call by ****.
He gave me a call.
Meanwhile, current water is like, Why? Why have to bag what you want, Trump? I need to run the register.
Yeah, this is bull****.
NFL offenses, but they don't trust him on the E could run the greatest show you have trusted a 29 and about 39.
Meanwhile, the computer is doing it for a guy.
You're You're not up to that level.
If I could call inaudible to Marshall Faulk.
Okay, I know how to stack the peaches and run the register, so don't talk to me about that buddy.
That never happened.
I swear to goodness, I went to the grocery store the one day he bagged my stuff.
He put the bread in the bottom and the watermelon on top s I was like, I'm like, Come on, wait.
On the Super Bowl, he puts the bread at the bottom and the watermelon on top way quarterback.
So the bread was smashed to That's like, Yeah, useless, Uh, one of my favorite.
A totally different with Baghdad played.
We all wanted him to get a number one then, but now it's a must.
You have to have it.
You have to have more than one.
You have to have two.
One might not be enough.
One might not be enough.
Look at the again.
I hate to say it, but look at the Seattle Seahawks who come in here this week.
We're gonna get killed.
That's gonna be That's gonna be a complete, complete massacre.
You kidding? You, I'll be I'll be I'll be half a bottle in by halftime, that's for sure.
Monday night to they got a line on the game.
I want another line, because you know what? I think I want to go solo against all three of you against the line.
All right, way Got something.
Okay, wait a minute.
So who thinks the eagles gonna win? I'm not going win.
I'm going spread because I'm not confident that they're gonna win, But I don't think it's gonna be a debacle.
I really don't that the spread is five, but I'll give you a better Dave.
Yeah, it's five.
The Eagles will lose, the Eagles will lose and the final snap for the Eagles will be taken by Jalen Hurts.
Oh, that's a bold statement.
Are we laying action on that? Are we just laying action on the on the actual stage? Jalen Hurts enters the game in the second hand.
So not only is Carson Wentz gonna be pulled, but he's gonna be pulled on national TV with the whole world watching the whole country watching.
Yeah, that's a bold statement.
That's a bold statement real quick before we go into another wager, because this is pretty interesting.
Did you guys make do on the bet that you had last week? Like what happened there? I forgot about the bet.
Yeah, there was a cheesesteak involved in uber eats.
It was something else there was last week or two weeks ago.
Whatever it waas, whatever it was, I don't think you guys ever even talked about what happened and you know it.
It's just not the same with Cove.
It like I want you know what I mean? Like it's not the same.
Like I wanna g o It's either that are you know, Tony knows he didn't want to research because I want Well, you can't, uh, looking at you, John.
Mark, Texas says he here comes a back injury, like 2000 and eight for Carson.
I'm telling you, man, I have a feeling.
Listen, I'll tell you, I you know, I'm like, I'm like Phoebe from cha.
Remember that show charm with which is she had Prem a Nisshin.
Tony, we don't remember.
What? What? Dude, I'll tell you what.
Sometimes when he gets into his TV shows are your sitcoms charm? Is that the one with the listen? Milano, remember? So Mikey Google? I don't know if you know this about Tony, but he really creep me out.
He started going into some shows that he watched I might be Oh, I love Grey's Anatomy.
What else? What else? Grey's Anatomy grazing Matt Anatomy.
And I'd say I'm going to go put my anatomy to bed tonight.
What? Okay, so Tony's into the sitcoms E due to Chicago's I Do to Chicago.
So what's wrong with that little, little great.
Don't wait a little.
I think you have freaked out.
You were talking about some? No, we're talking vampires.
You know, we're talking about, like, Chicago Fire versus Charmed.
Okay, you smoothing that in there like it was just, like a normal progression.
Well, maybe we need to dedicate a show and do an excerpt on, you know, strange TV shows that we've all admitted watching, you know, because you know, you're watching that stuff that you probably shouldn't be watching.
And you're just like, Oh, this is so dumb.
But I watch it anyway, because I kind of like it.
We gotta We gotta come up with a couple like our stiff list when we did the ultimate stiff list.
Way are the stiffs way are the stiff stiff of the week.
Steph eso Tony says Jalen Hurts will be in before the end of the game.
We will actually finish the Eagles game.
Very, very bold statement.
David, we wanna lay some action on this.
Do we wanna lay a Steve steak? Or how about a bag of center city pretzels? Or let's let's do something like let's do something great.
So who's going to take the action on the Eagles? Winning and covering outright or just covering What's happening? Wow.
I wanted you to take the action, Mike.
I'm not taking that way with all.
All American is the best right now that that's a great show, love all American, uh, saved by the bell with right way.
All have them, Rick.
Thank you for admitting that.
All right. Thank you, Rick.
All know that we've thought about Kelly Kapow ski.
All right? We all know.
And and and Jess Jessica Spano.
Okay? Yeah, I know the names.
And he must know I never watch.
Saved by the bell, so I never told them another screen.
I know who they are.
Mr Belding on Lauren.
Lisa, Turtle, Lisa, Turtle.
They're probably still getting royalty checks from that show. Yes.
Yeah, rightfully so.
Federal Donuts is the best doughnut in Philly.
There's no question it's not even close.
Your boy Dave Portner.
He was there the other day, and he just gave it a 9.
I have a maybe the best donut in Philly, but yum yum Donuts.
Oh, nobody but nobody tops your mom's.
Where's Yum Yum? Is that? Is that North? East? Now it's a war, Mr.
Uh, Another one.
There's two of them, I think.
Where is the other one? That I'm not sure where the other one is? But I know the white Lightnings White lightning.
What's the white lightning? That sounds freaking amazing, by the way.
What is that? It's like it's like a carnival for your taste buds.
It sure sounds like it.
I was like, I was like, How do you know the names he's talking about? He's asking me about to say about the bell.
I tell you how my memory I'm telling you, man, my memory, It's crazy.
I'll tell you right now, I'm not the joke, but that's seriously like.
I'll know one day if I have a brain tumor because I won't remember **** like I remember everything.
I guess there are worse things in life every day.
Tony, like, who is Kelly Kowalski? A zonas.
He answers yes or something or smart, you know, on ready for this one, Dave.
Right? And and and And if you Listen, I still remember the big fat coach, Mr Tuttle, which was a teacher, Mr Tuttle, who drove around it.
But I still remember Mr Tuttle when Al said bro, How do you know the names? I thought he meant, Dave.
How do you know the name of the doughnuts when he said white lightning? That's what I thought he was talking about.
Well, they have white lightning and chocolate thunder.
Okay, so I want 40 of each way.
Gotta send them.
You definitely dio They're They're amazing.
Sure, But listen, let's turn this conversation a little bit, all right? We we talked enough.
An hour and 17 minutes.
Listen, we gave you all our opinions.
We venit Well, we're still gonna have data.
This is a Monday night football game, so it's gonna even be worse because we get the watch.
Everybody be successful on Sunday and Thursday.
And then Monday we're gonna watch an atrocity.
What's gonna be ridiculous? But anyway, way should you know what we should do? A man.
We should watch the game and stream it live so everybody could see our reactions.
And just during the whole game, you really should do that.
Why don't we? Why don't we just watch the game live and shrimp? And just so everybody can see what we do during You know what? I don't think that's a good idea.
No, not for May a zoo, Long as I can shut the camera off during like when things happen, I'll shut the camera off and then I'll mute and then I'll throw **** throughout the house and then I'll turn the camera back on.
But we should. We should do that.
You know what else we should dio? We should double box in someone getting there tooth extracted without novocaine.
Because that's gonna be the same **** story it could be.
Actually know what it could be.
Worse way should have.
Like that's better. Yeah.
Z Daryl Morey for the Philadelphia 70 Sixers.
He's already ah, legend already already.
Let let me let me I mean, listen, you know, Daryl Morey has a plan down maury for what he was able to do on draft day.
Like it's ridiculous, right? No matter what, you know what? People don't understand that we're and and again he's again.
People are morons.
Sweet Oh, what a ridiculous trade we can do.
You understand what he was able to do with Al Horford? You understand? He got Not only did he get a shooter, okay, Not only did he get a shooter, but he got a guy on the last year of his contract, an expiring contract.
And you both all three of you guys as well as Andre and Al, who are basketball guys.
Heat ratio sports.
We all know that an expiring N B A contract is like a first round gold mine.
Okay? He was able to get that and a shooter and get rid of the horrible contract to Al Horford.
And his sister To which I don't know if you've seen that.
That that is that.
What is that? Dude, I'm sorry.
You you caught me when you say and his sister to why is Horford sister managing his social media? What is that? Why is she tweeting based on Al Horford? Oh, my God! Like seriously God, I hated that guy when he was getting Celtics.
When he used to destroy them be and I can't stand them even more now.
Get out go away.
I used to hate the way used to manhandle and B.
I hate it! Come on.
I gotta and Horford story.
All right, now you gotta talk, Andre.
So as we're as we're waiting that you look at what he did, he takes number one.
We said he gets rid of Al Horford.
The one guy who we said it was a bad deal was able to turn that into Danny Green.
Okay, Danny Green expired.
Contract Still, shooter, He's still a shooter.
Then he's able to grab Seth Carrie.
Okay, which again, I know it's not Steph, but this guy shot 43% from three.
He knows how to shoot the ball.
He's Dell's boys del son, shoot the ball and he's on an $8 million contract.
Okay, so they just cleared $40 million off room and moves right, and they draft Maxie from Kentucky.
And whenever you listen, all you guys know this especially.
Here's what I love about the pick tires, Maxie, which I love about it is this is a year where basketball stopped.
There wasn't a lot of scouts, right? There wasn't a lot of So what do you do in that perspective, you say, Let me stick to the programs.
And I know produce winners produce players.
You you drafted kid from Kentucky, right? You drafted for Kentucky.
What's he dropped a little bit and you jumped on You stop and you grab them and listen.
I am. I'm excited.
If you see this kid's story, if you want some play again Another God, a draft and Isaiah Joe is a shot creator.
I know he's a second round pick.
Okay, But again, you know, we've watched in the n b.
A second round picks mean something they do if you can hit right on the head.
And especially this year, because nobody really knows.
We're gonna look back on this draft four years and I'll be like, Wait, where was that guy drafted? Wherever that I mean, it was unbelievable.
Alice has the clueless moron said we're training for an old shooter.
Exactly how I completely agree.
Andres said he can't tell us stories for heat ratio after dark.
I like that picture.
Don't send them to me, Andre.
We're gonna talk Doggystyle later. Dave. Don't worry.
Uh, but world All right, So So, tone.
Maury, let's go more with All right, let me let me Let me ask you this, Dave, I'm gonna throw a question at you.
Should, um, Elton Brand be thanking Daryl Morey? Hey, just he just saved his job.
He made Elton Brand's mistake's go away completely on DWhite.
I like about the draft pick.
And this is a typical in Philly sports.
We actually drafted a position of need and we need a shooter, and this kid could doom or than just his defensive ability is is outstanding as well.
It's We just acquired three shooters on a team that what do we need, Shooters? Yeah.
So, I mean, how do you not applaud that? And the axing off the cap space? Holy Moses.
That was unbelievable.
Unbelievable. And they gave us cash.
The one the Al Horford deal.
I think they part of that is they gave us money to, and I don't know how that works to our benefit.
Obviously, it sounds all well and good, but somehow we relieved cap space and that we acquired money on top of players.
They said they couldn't rebuild the roster without having to trade either Simmons or indeed, and I know that I've been obviously very critical on Simmons because I'm old school guy when it comes to the n b A.
I just don't realize sometimes the value that he definitely brings.
But and I just, you know, the frustration with the whole Kardashian think threw me off with this guy.
I mean, I just told you, is just But he's so young and he has potential.
And now that he's got Doc Rivers and now he's got you know, this statistical brain, which I don't know if you guys know.
But Daryl Morey hasn't he's gotta do.
He's got a degree.
He's gonna be a from M I t like they don't hand those out to any idiot.
Okay, that's for sure.
I mean, this guy is a fricking brainiac.
Now don't get me wrong.
We've seen his success and what he's been able to dio.
But this guy is Moneyball, statistical driven all of the way, right? And I feel like the adults are back in charge with the Sixers.
I mean, I think it's a fantastic move.
What I what I What I question, though, is how long is Elton brand gonna be around? Because I don't see it fit.
And I see him coming in.
I see him bailing him out.
I don't see Ellen brand here.
That was those were really bad deals.
He just He didn't do very well for us at all.
You know, Eh? So I don't see him being a long term part of this whole Sixers equation.
But there's so much positive stuff now because now they've put shooters around what we've been missing the whole time.
I mean, the last true shooter that we've really had, at least catching shooters JJ Red****.
And now that we have this upgraded squad, it's really excited to see what they're gonna bring because with Doc Rivers leading the charge and maybe you can get these two kids to finally play and get on the same page, I mean, top three, and I guess top three in the East, right? I mean, you have to be sure I'm not going toe top.
What do you think? Top five I think we're still five or six. Five.
Well, I mean, look, there's a lot to be said, but it's super super exciting for Philadelphia sports.
What's your starting five? Tell me your starting five.
It's tough, man.
I mean, right now, you know, I guess you have to put carrying your starting five, right? I mean, the way this team is construct the way it's gonna be constructed.
I mean, obviously, you know, it's band and it's Joe, and it's Toby writes the bias, you know? Do I dare say it's you know? Is it Danny Green? Is that Matisse? Does Matisse get elevated into the starting role? Who would you rather come off the bench? Danny Green or Matisse? Teibel.
I mean that Kerry is gonna be a starter.
Okay, He's gonna be a starter, probably right.
But that fifth guy, you know, you don't know who that's gonna be, But one thing I will say Dave is interesting.
Um, Mike alluded to when he started talking about the shooters on.
If you think about the kind of players that they drafted in Isaiah Joe and tires Maxie and you think about the kind of guys they signed and traded for even terrorist.
Ferguson will play a nice role off the bench. Right.
Um, again, they traded Zeier Smith.
Let's talk about that move to they trade Sire Smith.
Who? They should never traded McKell bridges when they drafted him.
God talk about that.
I don't have to drink the bottle.
Oh, it was horrible.
So they trade him for, you know, Tony Bradley.
Ah, backup center.
What's okay? You need somebody backing up, but they're starting eerily remind me off the way the Celtics air constructed and again.
And what I mean by that is the Celtics go like 8. 90.
And they have tough guys.
They have shooters.
They always have somebody coming off the bench all different sizes.
And again, it's almost like what I've seen.
I think it's great, but but I still don't think they're done.
I still I know we were so focused on Ben and Joe being together.
I know Alison to kill me for this, and he's gonna kill me for this.
But I would still move.
I would still move, Ben.
I would move Ben for a drop dead score.
Man, if I would still moving for hard, and I would still moving for Biel.
I would still you moving? Yes.
I would move Ben Simmons for Bradley Beal because because I know here's my issue and again.
And I said, You know, this this is gonna backtrack a little bit.
Into what? We didn't get into it.
We don't really.
I'm just gonna mention it, but prayers go out.
Clay Thompson, second a c l Surgery sucks.
One of the best pure shooters ever that we have seen on who knows if he's ever gonna be right.
And that just shows you time is now not five years from now.
No, tomorrow is not guaranteed.
So my my thing is, if I have a chance, I'm not saying it can.
But if I have a chance You know, Thio, tell me that this team right now as constructing I don't know what Ben gives me offensively.
I don't We don't know.
And we know you see this draft this draft was so different than any Go like the big guys.
We're going last because it's It's yesterday's, eh, NBA, Today's MBA is all guards, all shooting guards.
all shooters, right? So if you tell me, I can take Ben out and insert somebody that's guaranteed 25 30 or 35 a game, doing it every day, a week, every day of the week, Because that that to me you asked me where we I say five or six.
If you extract Ben and insert Harden extract Ben, insert Booker Extract Ben insert Bill.
And I'm just saying this is what I'm saying is gonna have I'm just saying, that kind of player, if that's available, were instantly.
It's ought to team of the East instantly, But we're not right now.
That's all I'm saying.
Everything you said agreed.
Um, question can desire Smith play.
No, I don't think he can.
I don't think your league And then, you know, he he did to some issues, like, you know, he No, he had he had the injury.
Then he got some of this foot.
Uh, you know, uh, now see how Alice has a 31 year old hard and doesn't I? I don't I don't agree with that.
I just I listen, I still think if you insert James Harden into this teams and Ben Simmons.
You instantly win 78 more games.
So you're going to co I lettered and you're talking about championships.
What? I thought you're gonna say 78 more champions e 01 No, now, al, I respect the hell out of your basketball knowledge.
That's why I'm asking when you say guarantee you anything.
Are you talking? I think he thought.
I mean, this guy's statistically and I've been consistently average 36.
5 36 points for the last four years, distancing 31 year old out here.
And he actually would have to do less on the Sixers than he's done previously because he has a guy like Joe down low.
And then you sold Jimmy Butler thinking the same thing, and then he basically had to take over because everybody stopped playing.
Let's not forget about all that.
That's a different player, though.
Jimmy Butler is a different kind of Alfa dog.
Jimmy Butler is right.
He's not a shooter.
Jimmy Butler's a score, but you know what, But I also think it's a different type of person to Jimmy.
Butler is a wide receiver and James Harden is a running back or quarterback.
That look, there's no question Jimmy Butler wants toe win, but I still feel that he's in that like receiver category, like a little bit of limelight You.
I mean, this is I'm not saying he's a bad player at all.
I and there's a ton of receivers in the NFL like it's not like they're bad guys by any means.
But there are some divas and I'm not in.
Jimmy Butler is not a diva.
I That is not what I'm saying, but there's just something to be said.
Uh, I don't know.
It's not what you're saying, but what are you telling us, then? I mean, it is.
What was the problem or what was Jimmy Butler? I don't know.
Jimmy Butler didn't wanna be there, and I don't think that James Harden really cares.
Okay, so all right, so I I equate to, but you're not being here was because coaching staff to well, whatever it is you want to be here.
I'm saying Jimmy Butler, it's not.
Its's like any any grown man that is looking for a job like you have to find a job or you want that job that you are gonna be great at.
You know what I mean? Jimmy Butler.
Look, he had a job with the Sixers.
Like he was not happy with Workforce and wanted to go somewhere else.
James Harden? I don't know.
I feel like wherever he goes, he's gonna make up his own environment.
He's a butler, man.
He's gonna suck the ball up.
Al breaks up a great question.
Think about getting Joe Joe the ball. The first always.
You know, that's not gonna happen.
That is never gonna happen.
No, no, not getting todo.
No, But here's the thing.
Now, you know, again, you're the one element that we're forgetting about is the head coach is a very brown anymore, right? This is that we don't know.
We don't know if Joe we don't know.
Chosen number one, uh, feed the ball offense.
Look, you guys, we're going to go into it.
Give me eight seconds, dude.
Seriously, like if it was Al Horford, Al Horford gone and the guys coming in and what they have like, seriously, like it took it took more A to come in and not Brett Brown.
Like we matching bread, brown bread brown and issue for two years longer than not like.
But now it's so clear.
It's like none of this was a burden.
Yeah, I got red.
I got rid of Al Horford.
You know, I mean, I bring in these guys and nobody break the bank.
Yeah, but he was skilled.
He brings something different. This guy is a these guys.
He's cut from a different cloth.
They brought the right guy in tow.
Handle. It's a pretty amazing from the Sixers.
Yes, well, well, they listen.
They overpaid for Doc.
They overpaid for Maury and they had thio, right? But, you know, I don't care. That's what I'm saying.
That the owners were dedicated to winning.
There's no question about that.
But what? That the best thing about these moves is that these owners, it sure seems like if they pay that amount of money are gonna allow these guys just do what they need to do and step it in.
Yes, yes, they're not.
They're they're definitely writing checks, and they're putting good people in their cabinet, so to speak. right.
So, Tony, remember, the old stick here with these owners is that they were too buddy buddy with and Beat and Simmons, And that was part of the story was letting the inmates run the asylum.
So now you're going to see you're going to see and beat and Simmons being coached and being held accountable a different way.
That's what we're sold.
So you're gonna you're gonna see owners like Michael Rubin not spending half of his time on instagram with Meek Mill and and and do well and be like playing Mr Celebrity.
And he's just going to step aside and let the let the coaches run.
That's not Reuben style.
This is what we're being sold on, right? I guess you just paid big money for Doc Rivers and more.
And this guy running the program and the problem before one of the issues before was like I said, the inmates are running the asylum.
That's why Butler was blaming, um, what's his name? Our coach who was our last coach? Yeah, Brett Brown that, you know, he wasn't holding these guys accountable.
Maybe, But again, you have the owner in there and the owner is buddy Buddy with a lot of these guys because that's the way Michael Rubin roles.
You know, he's a big time bowler.
He likes hanging out with the players and stuff like that.
And be honest with you have I own part of the Sixers.
I probably wanna be doing the same thing.
So maybe it put a conflict of interest.
There may be it may have.
They weren't listening to break ground at the end.
It was basically doing whatever they wanted to do.
They weren't listening to him.
It was like they were laughing at the guy.
You know, they're not gonna laugh if they're not gonna laugh. A Doc Rivers.
No matter what relationship the owner has with the players, Doc Rivers brings ah whole nother realm.
I think of professionalism to this team and exactly what they need.
Will they be able to instill the discipline? You know, as Doc Rivers gonna stop Jo Ellen be from tweeting at one o'clock in the morning.
Um is there They're gonna stop all that dumb ****.
Maybe they may put like, a whole new centers that we have no idea what's gonna happen, but it's exciting for sure, and I definitely wanna bring any type of negativity into the Sixers right now.
The Sixers right now are you know, they're they're they're they're a sheet of white, right? There's no nothing were completely whitewashed everything.
We're starting over.
We don't want anything.
Al brought up an interesting question earlier, and I don't think we address.
He says the most important question that we should be thinking right now is what else do we need? And we haven't talked about that. That's good.
What else do we bring in tone right now? You said that there's another move.
What would you dio? Where's our whole? And, you know, the six is a lot better than I dio.
Well, here's the problem is ah, lot of this is gonna bank on Tobias Harris becoming the Tobias Harris the Doc Rivers had in L.
Ah lot of this because again, this is This is your guy.
I I continue to say this.
We already know what we have with Joel, right? We already know what we have with Ben.
But with one thing we know for sure is that Tobias Harrison.
He is the most important part of this team because he's the guy he was supposed to be that stretch four.
He was supposed to be that guy that we've never had the shooter to be able to hit the three.
You know, you paid him $180 million to be that guy, and he showed up very, very small.
So right, So Tobias is the guy.
I think I I think the biggest thing the Sixers could do right now to see that the way they're constructed right now is in their mind.
And this is my problem and their mind.
They're a big three, and their big three is Joe, Tobias and Ben.
And for me, that big three isn't good enough because it's not going to combat.
The Big Two is not gonna get back.
Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.
It's just not so Tobias needs to be the guy.
And you're not gonna get a number four, right? You're not.
So the biggest thing to me is they have to build this bench.
They have they they have to go 90.
They have to formulate a team like the Toronto Raptors did.
When they want and I know they don't have CO, I get it.
But Toronto went nine deep.
DENVER The Denver Nuggets go 78 deep.
Every the Boston Celtics go nine deep, the Sixers need to go nine deep.
And that means signing a couple guys that could come in just like the Celtics did.
Okay, they signed a guy like more Keith Mars, right? They have a guy like Marcus Smart.
They have guys that can come in and just pick up the slack.
That's the Sixers need to dio.
And it's not for Con Cork mas.
Alright, Only course mas okay with bad hair.
And it's terrible shoe game.
Okay, seriously, let's let's stick to the things that matter.
Bed hair and horrendous shoe game.
Seriously, The Portland spade is horrendous.
Bad sucks like seriously again, like whatever.
And he's posting.
You don't get me started, okay? But we need a nine player team.
That's what that's another player everybody fell in love with.
You start having a couple of good games.
Great Value Court.
Mazda's court were so desperate to fall into to to fall in love with players.
You know, because we just want everything to be good.
We just wanna win.
We deserve winning teams.
You serve this crap work really, really good Fans that were super loyal.
And it's the only thing that we look forward Thio.
And why do we gotta deal with this crap weekend and week out? This dysfunctional **** with the Eagles? Phillies air A complete freaking disaster mess Dumpster fire.
They have no idea what the hell is going on over there.
Why do we have to deal with this? We're better fans than this.
Why do we get so emotional? Why do we give a **** thing? This is interesting.
So? So check this out.
So I'll say, Well, ugly airport.
Because I always forget about shake Milton.
So you know, shake again.
He's a pants player, right? But But he could come in and knock down shots, right? Experience with Teesside ball to me was untouchable.
I would I would trade Ben before thigh ball.
I think five balls that could ideo well, defensively he is a stud and I think that's what you need to win the MBA.
Yeah, Please don't Andre.
Andre says This is interesting because Andre, I'll tell you why.
Mike, you notice Dave.
You notice John, you know Andre, My man said to know and he says Maury is making one more move.
Think about why Maury hasn't announced and welcome Green publicly yet.
And he wants to make one more big Splash reported that law.
So what's he gonna dio? What's what's the guy we know? What What's the movie think? What do we think he's gonna dio? I mean, listen, the only thing I could say is I know what you know.
Everybody's been clamoring for the whole body heal thing, and I don't think that's got the legs, right.
I don't think so.
I mean, uh, listen, I think it does.
I dio I think when you have a player of that stature, I think I'll tell you what, though, to see what Robert Covington got the trade and you see, I mean, you're gonna you're gonna give up a lot.
There's no question the markets just crazy right now, right? But I think Al says we need a power forward who could score.
Maybe you got like P.
J. Tucker right, right.
Wouldn't be a bad move.
You know, I would love one of the Mars brothers, but they're small.
They're not powers, but, you know, listen, I mean, we Gordon Hayward.
Who? Gordon Hayward.
You see what he got? Oh, my God.
All that's what that's what it is, man.
All guaranteed money.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
It's crazy telling what you gonna do, Sink or swim.
You don't you don't get you.
Don't build it halfway.
You gotta go all the way now.
Sam Bradford of the MBA.
Oh, maybe it's the same agent.
Wow, I know he's shorts are like Sammy Sleeves is sort of like but e I'm very, very happy with where the Sixers are.
It's definitely a bright spot for our city, and it's something to look forward to.
You didn't even mention Dwight Howard.
That's not yo, I'm glad you said that, Dave.
I completely forgot.
Yeah, I'm so talking about Dwight Howard.
That's right there.
That's a doctor.
Yeah, that's a doctor.
What happened? Did he originally give a verbal agreement to the Lakers? And then I read an article that's they said that there was some sort of a miscommunication.
Or did he just wanted to bell out of there and come to the six year? I mean, I guess when it was offered, he was offered three Lakers and something happened and he actually and the Sixers actually gave him less.
And he signed with the Sixers.
Maybe I just wanted to change.
There's more to it than than how I just said it, but it was like, Ah, head scratcher like what the hell does happen there and how they Because maybe he's seeing something that, you know, he wants to be part of a young team that's got new leadership.
They got a really good, you know, they got good, um, good people upstairs now.
I mean, Elton Brand aside? No, without Brown.
I said no when he was hired.
I'll say No, no, no.
Hey, did some good stuff, but I don't think he fits going forward.
He did some good stuff, but anyway, yeah, Listen, Elton was l was built on the relationships that he had, uh, you know, and close the pliers, and it just listen, you know, he's learned this is the way this this is the way toe learn.
You got a guy in Daryl Morey there.
Now if he wants to learn, that's fine.
But just like let Darrell make.
Yeah, but Daryl Morey is playing money ball.
You know he's making.
He's playing fantasy basketball from a computer, but that's fine.
That's what we need, Andre says.
Uh, Howard needs they need to get out of L.
For more than basketball reasons.
Eso There may be something brewing over there, so Andre seems to know a lot that we're gonna have to have a dark ratio episode.
Why does that sound like a Kardashian problems? Yeah, you know, far away from L a far away.
Don't go anywhere near any of those chicks, that's for sure.
Let you wear your career ruined.
Speaking of Kardashians, we have to talk about doggy style and you know it's a good Segway.
E love that you like that.
Do you like that? Yeah.
This is a good Segway into our you know, our final segment off tonight where we talked music.
And this has picked up some steam.
People tweet me and they love it.
And, you know, I tried to go back at least 20 plus years and, you know, you know, you know, kind of equate whatever song or album compared to the episode that we're doing.
And this week, 27 years old.
Okay, 27 years old.
27th anniversary off Snoop Dogg's Doggystyle album. Now.
Well, we talk about this.
This is another one of those albums that is highly recognizable.
Okay, for his release November 23rd, 1993.
Now we all remember Snoop Dog Grow, Right, Right, right. Exactly.
We remember the intro to suit.
All right? I mean that the deep cover song is one of the best songs ever made.
Uh, no, no, that was That was on the Was that the murder murder was the case.
One other murder murder was the case.
What? The cover was a soundtrack.
It was made for a soundtrack of the movie that had Jeff Goldblum in it.
And Laurence Fishburne and I forget what the name of the movie is.
But that's what the deep cover track was made for.
Wear not history behind that. Dr.
Dre absolutely hated that song and did not want to release it completely crazy.
because think about how great that song is, right? I mean, that beat was ridiculous.
Everything was great about that.
And he hated it. I read.
I read that somewhere, and then it was sampled again.
That so that so That so that beat was sample? Yeah, they funded the free.
Yeah, him and Fat Joe called twins, so that was great.
That was a great song, but I don't think we realized how good. Doggy Sahwas.
Alright, It debuted at number one.
It debuted at number one.
Okay? And sold 806,000 copies in its first week.
The fastest, The fastest selling hip hop album ever for a debuting artists.
And to this day, salt over seven million copies in the U.
S. And over 11 million worldwide.
I mean, listen again, the album that the the cover is fantastic.
Okay, but it's one of those albums again.
Oh, DeAndre says the movie was called Deep cover.
Thank you, Andrea. Cover.
And listen, that gin juice I mean, what you know again, it was what's my name? I had to edit the song, right? They had to edit the song and put it on radio play right.
But again, they didn't juice Song.
It was just great classic, right? I mean, like, was there a better song on the album and gin and juice? Probably not.
It was that album was probably one of the most significant albums, I guess right in the early nineties, because it cemented whatever Dre was doing.
Whatever he did with the Chronic basically cemented that, and that was just over the top.
That was the G funk stuff, and that was, you know, that was the beginning of all of that.
And the production on some of those tracks were amazing.
I mean, that's that's something that you could just throw on and listen all the way through. It's just great.
It was trend setting, and it's amazing.
And that's when Snoop really came into his own.
Who doesn't love Snoop Dog? Well, that's the thing.
I mean, he's a lovable character.
Everybody, to this day, this lovable character hey, is I mean, Thio.
He does stuff in the community with his football programs.
To this day, he's just a loveable e can't believe he's still walking.
That guy smokes more weed than anybody we ever known.
I mean, all day, night and day.
I remember there was There was there was somebody that was on Howard Stern, I believe.
And it was snoops blunt roller that just traveled with him and just all the all the person Did we just roll Snoops blunts.
It was a full time job.
A full time blunt roller.
Uh, think of that.
Do you know the accolades? You have to have to be able to get that job e you have.
You have to be, like, be a barb.
Descendant Thio, Get that job you have, toe.
I mean, there have to be credentials.
E Listen, man, I don't I honestly don't think Snoop Ball gets talked about enough.
I don't like your right.
I mean, am I wrong? How many times Snoop dog come up with a hip hop conversation? Never missed it as like a top 10. Not right.
Never, never, never Like when you You know you're talking about Nas and Tupac and you're talking about biggie Jay Z.
You know, Ice Cube, You never hear Snoop.
You know you're right.
Nobody ever gives him any kind of props It's almost like he was like some sort of a fat and he wasn't a fat on the chronic.
It was not a fat at all.
I mean, he was amazing on the chronic.
His album was great.
I mean, I just looked it up.
He's worth his net worth is $150 million.
You see him in these new You see him in these new Corona commercials that they're plastered all over the place.
Some funny guy he owns, like fields of marijuana, a little over the place.
That's why I'm shocked you could make any profit off of that 100 $50 million.
Yeah, now you know what? Look, I like Snoop like there has never been anything that I don't like about Snoop, but I will say I appreciate him Mawr when he's on other people's albums, songs call what you want than his own.
And you know, back in the day when he came out with his albums, they were spectacular, game changing.
I mean, I Yes, I had my I had my days to Snoop Dog, but I'm just saying in general, like I appreciate snoop when he gets a verse in something with so many other people.
You know, it's a good point.
He was better with cameos on other albums.
Yeah, you're right, John.
He really was a good point.
You're probably And that's probably why, right? That's why I mean, listen, he was symbolic on the chronic, but that's because he was with Dre.
It was he was symbolic and deep cover because he was with Dre.
He was, you know, and so I mean, you're right.
I mean, maybe that's why I mean not to take nothing away from him.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I mean stupid, he just he he's just not mention enough for me, that's all.
Know what it is? A snoop is snoop.
He's going to do what he is.
He's gonna chip in.
He's gonna come out with his own stuff he's got.
And at the end of the day after his albums, everything that he, like, joined in on whether it was writing, you know, lyrics, whatever.
It doesn't matter.
Not like Mike said it.
Oh, we're doing Corona commercials, you know? I mean, he has been so mainstream.
He has a game show like, Are you kidding me? Like this dude is just so just Look, I'm I'm just here to do some things.
That's it? Yeah.
I mean, he's like, I'm gonna do this.
I'm gonna do that, You know? That's it.
His his niece A smoking, by the way.
E gotta look this up.
Sasha Banks, if you're arrested, guy set the dog.
Well, I I just like that.
Yeah, I mean, that that is their cousins.
And I'll tell you what.
Just just just just take that for a peek there, Dave, and you'll see what I'm talking about, but yeah, again synonymous Snoop with hip hop again.
You know, I love hip hop.
We all like hip hop, but Snoop Dog E Can I? I see Mike, He's ready.
I'm just curious about I was trying to figure out if there was any Scott Storch tracks made for Snoop Dog.
That's gonna be our guest.
Eso he actually made a couple of them, but yeah, I just Googled Scott sports.
No, there wouldn't be any of that.
We would know, so it didn't really interest me, but, um, you can Now when you hear certain beats that when you when we looked up Scott storages stuff in his photography, you can you can hear his sound.
It's a very synth heavy, very bass heavy.
You know, um, when you hear still, Dre and then you you look at Fat Joe's Lean back.
You can hear that nasty keyboard since it's like that signature Scott Storch sound.
And there was a couple of Snoop Dogg's songs that had that.
I was just curious whether or not he was involved with him.
This is for the G s.
And this is for the hustlers.
That's that's Storch sound.
You gotta get those.
Those is very fire fire.
So job, dude, wait.
All I want to say, dude, superdawg murder was a case.
That was the last song on the track that if you didn't get one of the early editions you didn't get it was o f T b hot one.
And I will tell you in my high school days Look, I'm speaking to you.
Three Google o f t b hot one that was the missing track on the murder was the case album of Snoop.
I'm saying that.
That was I'm saying that song.
Dude, if you want to get me to do some karaoke way, have karaoke, you're gonna sing that you're gonna sing.
Murder was the case.
Just gonna let it rip Johns with a drop murder.
Was the case on Lee that song, if you could find it.
Wow, that sounds like that.
Sounds like a challenge to may.
I got a call because I don't want to do that job.
What time it is? It's about that time.
It's about that time.
What's in your CD wallet, John.
Alright, It's about that time.
Give me a couple of numbers.
We gotta go numbers for everybody listening.
This is what's in John C wallet.
I see that rack behind him.
And they were not not her rack, but his rack back there with back.
There are a few in her rack too.
Yeah, so that's when I get a eso.
So we're gonna picks up first. Here.
Look, Andre, Andre is already got 11.
12. Donna, you have up to 11.
No, I need one through five to tell me that section on, then.
Still a primary election has 30.
Each section has 30 All right, John.
I'm going. 3. 27.
27 Because I like I like what Mike said I wanna pull out of, Ah, winter here.
Like you know, you're gonna pull out.
What? Edward, the new Bohemians.
Where you gonna pull out? 141414 All right, I'm gonna go.
Uh, I'm gonna go 77 We're gonna go for 77 Dave.
What you got, buddy? I'm gonna g o Section three, Disc number one, Section three, Disc one.
Very good choice.
Okay, All says 25.
Wait Before we even get in tow.
Ben! Mikey, Goods.
We told you it's one through five.
You said 77 Oh, did you? I'm sorry.
I'm sorry Like that.
That's into your C d.
I was just checking to see if you were still awake. John.
5757 Yeah, that's too much.
Takashi like your 1 25 1.
He went from 4 to 1 toe.
One? No, Andre is 410 so my bad.
How I'm 31 Wait.
So Al wants what? 4.
25 I feel like I'm taking bets.
Do do I get it? Like a thread on this? Like Goodfellas, John.
Act like it's Sunday.
You know how you grew up? Phone ringing, writing **** down.
Don't actually do that.
Come on. No way.
Monday to get the U. S. A.
Today had up my fantasy league stats.
Like by newspaper.
You mean you weren't sitting there with the football pools getting all panic to get them all in on every Sunday? I don't know how I had people to do that for me.
Alright, Alright, I got five.
I got five things here.
Okay? This ought to be great.
This is gonna be good, cause I think John's half lit, so see if he's walking right? You pick.
So let's say you know what we should do as he before he walked.
Could you imagine if he split his pants right now? That would be great.
That would be great right now.
And like, I don't even think you could read them so we don't even know what we're gonna get way.
Have no idea if you were gonna get the right rack way should be taking bets on what he's pulling right now.
Side angles, His or her? His or her rack? His or her rack? Oh, I think we're getting I'm gonna dio When we got five choices.
I'm gonna g o to to country.
He's pulling out to country tonight.
Country guy? I don't know.
He said he was dancing around his tonight twain back in college, doing dishes for his dorm room.
Eso feels like a woman.
He's got the balls to say some **** about you watching.
Saved by the Bella hey openly openly admits that e support with E always wondered if anybody would pick up on that.
And actually, no one hurt because I dropped the bottle was like, e uh, he's got a smile on his face like, uh, he's definitely got a cranberries or some dumb ****. Here we go.
Mike What? What was your after 77? I just ignored.
I just said 57 Just grab whatever you want. It doesn't matter.
Just stick your hand in there and pull anything out.
12345 Right, I'll get over it and let me get through these four.
Dude, you know what? You're disqualified from this.
We have four answers. You're disqualified.
You're right. I deserve it.
All right, so we're going owl at 4.
This one's for Ben Aaron Hall.
Oh, don't be afraid.
Oh, dude, that track is amazing, by the way.
Don't be afraid.
Wow, lol, we get smooth.
That is fantastic.
I like that poll outside.
L said, by the way I pick up the running back, the Ravens and fancy You talked about us.
God got off the bus, Gus.
On the, uh Yeah, Mikey E.
Have all these CDs? Reason Mike pulls it up on his phone.
Second, you soundtrack.
I thought that's why Go to right there.
That's a great movie.
27 way Got we got some r. Kelly.
Or which one is that? I don't even know, man.
Give me some tracks.
Is that 12 play? I know that you remind me.
Oh, that's a great song that gives you the album era.
Hopefully, that's before the golden shower.
Yeah, John Yeah.
Now we're going.
Are you? What? Hey, look.
Look, you guys took to smooth tracks out of the high school age, okay? I'll tell you what, man.
We're two for two tonight.
That's one we're gonna We're gonna be three for three.
Okay? Bold statement.
This was actually I think this is a single CD.
Okay, but we got swv.
Is it weak? We got weak.
Oh, my goodness.
You've gotta be kidding me.
Are you? You think reminding of slow dance in high school, right, Todd? Yeah, E Wow.
**** you Slow dance three Gaming.
Yeah, Whose was that? That was, uh, way.
That was one that was Al Thani.
That was Andre for one.
Nice job, Andre.
Mikey got disqualified.
You gotta give me a pull now.
Were three for three.
You're not gonna give me a chance to ruin it? No, I still got Dave.
Dave was 21 dude.
I mean, it should have been last week.
We got way, got the beasties.
0310 my goodness.
If you guys want to do it, I'll give you one more shot.
Man way Might not want to be able to break that streak.
But, uh, yeah, it's a virtual dance party going on here, man.
I think you gotta give me a pull, John.
You gotta give me one, man.
Valid number, dude.
You see, John breaking out the dance moves, Dude, I'll tell you what.
Every track was Platinum 19 nineties, man.
It's all the stuff that we grow. But it was great.
Andre said I called to check the comments.
Three R b one wrap in one country.
All right, here it isn over here.
Here comes Garth Brooks.
Yeah, I got friends in low places.
Why you guys talking smack now? He said you're gonna pull a country track.
No, I mean not up to the same level.
I mean, that was that.
This was probably historic poll.
We do have Ice Cube.
Oh, well, which one is that? Nice.
What was this 2000 or whatever, man, that's that.
That's three that you pulled out to wrap three R b two. Wow.
you know, I don't know what it is.
For some reason, this is just not something I got into this album.
I don't know why.
Yeah, I remember.
I tried forcing myself into it, but s Yeah, the track list is asked about May Pushing away Dr Frankenstein.
Dying war and peace ghetto vet Green cash over ass, which is a pushing weight in war and peace are very underrated song.
Okay, so I don't remember that one, but maybe we'll just turn it on.
The curse of money, The pecking order limos, demos and bimbos Once upon a time in the projects too.
Ex *****es Extradition, three strikes and you the penitentiary.
And if I was ****ing you kid show, you know, that's the track list pushing. Wait.
I don't think I've ever heard it, but that's this a push, rhymes like way.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's very hard.
The find a cube track.
That's not good.
I mean, just because of his demeanor, it's like he's like Poch.
Two packs. It didn't matter. Whatever.
It was good, because of his voice.
You know, saying I believe that we've We've gone this many weeks of doing this and there hasn't been one of, like, probably 10 Tupac CD's chose.
Well, don't see.
Here's the problem.
Guv just had a standard tonight because he just actually, he was like his.
What's that? What's that? That where you hear the song? She's, um he's been like our own Suzanne guy.
Which means next week when we pull these and the track absolutely is brutal, he's gonna have to play it. It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be great.
But we hit them all out of the park tonight that we're all good.
Every one of them.
John John. They were all good tonight.
And literally they were all You're gonna have to stuff your wreck, but something real bad, man.
Because if you got that kind of gold in there, you gotta We gotta have a stinker in there somewhere.
Do we have a sinker? The first week way.
Thought it was gonna be all great.
Look, we're two hours and six, but this is the ultimate way.
Went longer than ever tonight.
But the first hour was warranted.
We couldn't do it.
Way spent double the time when the Eagles had to be done.
I think it was a fantastic show.
We all got our our frustrations out.
Um, it was a really good I mean, me.
And they want to add a little bit, which was excellent.
Um, you know, John did his his normal.
Just give me eight seconds. Give me eight seconds.
I I think that you guys could talk, which was great.
Um, like a goose with the ultimate fan concept of perspective.
Which was great.
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