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No, my *** was hungry.
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When got him a play he broke. Get out of the way.
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They look at me now like you gotta be paid.
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I looked at the game.
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They gotta be slaves.
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This **** ain't never gonna stop, right? You're thinking like, how is he raised? I used to trap in the ring guard that I changed.
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Trying to go back to them way Go around.
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Come around, my ***.
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That's coming. Just trying to add another com.
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Alright, I feel like that.
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Yeah, we're here.
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We're in the building.
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Were live right now.
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What's up, people? I got our favorite Canadian here.
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Welcome, everybody back to basketball and more with your host, Matt Brooks.
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This is, of course, a SportsCastr official VOD cast.
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I'm in the next year.
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I got no one Jensen on the biggest Joe Harris stand out there.
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I know there's gonna be some contentious, uh, you know, argument for that, But I had to bring you on.
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It's the only thing that happened in this last week.
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And then as well Joe Harris recently.
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How you doing, my friend? I don't know about biggest and man.
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We have quite the community growing right now, but thank you for having me on.
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So it was fun.
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Stock, little free agency.
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It feels like everything happened, but simultaneously, nothing happened.
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You know what I mean? Yeah.
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No, I, uh, not like, the biggest thing I was excited about was, like sleeping for two days last few days.
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Something like this is great.
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I'm in bed by 11.
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30 like, Oh, yeah, because I'm old, man, like I'm on the other side.
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It's over for me.
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I don't I don't work till four.
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AM anymore.
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No, it's We're on the other side of it.
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It doesn't seem like we're gonna get that much.
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I mean, hardened thing, which is I think it a hangover us till we have grandchildren.
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But but But we're here.
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Um, look, the state of the nets right now.
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Uh, it's Let's I don't wanna talk too much about Twitter.
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I don't wanna make the show about Twitter, but we're both in the same community.
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Very.
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We're talking about twitter.
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We're talking about Twitter.
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We're gonna do it right we're talking about, um there are two parties right now.
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There are the trust marks.
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Yeah, and then the other side is the This is a complete disaster.
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I think that's somewhere in the middle.
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You can both say that there is.
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This was not a season.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, this that It's fine to say no, like I'm with you, I think like, as you said, there's a demographic of people are just saying like this is a complete disaster.
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Marks is obviously not the kind of guy that handle having Kevin Durant in Cairo living in this era.
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And there's all the people would say, like, Hey, shut your mouth, trust Sean Marks.
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What do you guys talking about it.
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And then there's like this this weird demographic in the middle.
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Where is this? Like I'm not panicking.
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I'm just making, like, small critiques.
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I still think we need a wing defender.
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But to say that this off season has been a failure, I don't I don't think that's necessarily fair, because I mean, like, look, the quick recap.
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Bruce Brown.
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That was a great move.
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You get rid of Jonah Moussa, a 2021 2nd round pick via Toronto, which I mean that has, like, how much value not not that much whatsoever.
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Jalen Hands, who I liked in Long Island, but let's be honest with ourselves.
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Wasn't going to sniff the rotation next year.
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And we got a legit contributor, a great on ball defender, which is exactly what this thing needs out of it.
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And that's That's a good move, right? And also turning the 19th pick, which ended up parlaying the City Bay.
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And that was heartbreaking for me to watch a job, to be like that close and then see him the part over the Detroit.
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But, you know, there was no guarantee that he was also going to contribute on this roster next year as a rookie.
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And you get Landry Shaman, who is going to do exactly that when the rotation inevitably Titans to eight or nine men, he's gonna be around career.
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40% shooter, great complementary asset.
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And then you get Jeff Green, so that's far in free agency at the minimum and show great Spurs, a stretch five in Houston dynamic in a short role and adds in a little versatility.
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Ease.
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So I know missing on Serge Ibaka socked.
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I feel you I could completely do, and right now we're in that unfortunate holding pattern with James Harden.
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But to say that this has been a holistic failure, I don't think that's necessarily fair.
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Um, yeah.
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No, I agree. I like right now. Nets.
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Twitter is like American politics, like there's no there's no uh, no, But I mean, in all seriousness, like, I do think like I and I even understand both extremes, like people that are like this was a total failure.
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I agree, like compared to what was billed and what we thought was gonna happen and all this stuff about okay, D is really recruiting Serge Ibaka and their friends and all this stuff like, Yeah, you can say it's a failure.
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I I would agree with that, but I don't think it's fair to say Okay, well, this team is screwed, like look at it in this defeatist mentality.
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Like again, You look at that whole rotation just by putting Jeff Green, who we can weaken, do the Jeff Green thing.
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He's fine.
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He's a fine player.
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He's not gonna move the needle. It's un.
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There's gonna be weeks where we're all like, Wow, Jeff Green.
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I mean, I think he's finally figured it out, and then there will be weeks where it's like, Are we sure he's better than Rodion school? Looks like I don't I don't know if we're quite there, Um, regardless, like just having him in there.
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Just be being a big human being makes such a difference.
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It makes such a difference.
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It's like, Okay when they TLC at the four who fouls every time anybody post up against him or prints who way don't need to do too much touring prints on this show like I gotta take about him, but we're getting to know Let's do it right now.
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You are now.
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You want me to start off with steamy heartache, right? Alright, alright, Basketball, more viewers.
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I got some 40 I think Taurean Prince, if he stays on the roster right, and that's obviously a giant if right now I think he could turn into one of them or well, like Nets on next year's roster, hear me out.
00:05:55
Shop shot 42% from three of Kyrie Irving on the floor in the month of November, shot just as well as Joe Harris.
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And you know how I feel about Joe Harris? I didn't even larger volume Caress and Kyrie go down right and obviously his quality of looks lesson.
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And he turns Mawr into a three level score, which I don't see that anymore for the rest of my life, right? And that's where we run into problems.
00:06:21
Oh, my goodness, Like just took, just took years off my life.
00:06:27
Watching him try Thio fade away as a post.
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It is just a little too much, but always have a lesson role, and he's going to get, like such high quality looks always seem to Kevin Durant.
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Kyrie, Irving.
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I think he's He's there.
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There's something there. There's also something to be said about.
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This guy played out the four at 6 ft 6 £215 all season for the Nets.
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They had 83 defense.
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He played on all 64 games before the covert locked down, which obviously indefinitely suspended play.
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He could be nice next year if we keep him Well.
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I almost wonder if if there going with the mentality of we're gonna just go for it next year and hope that you know everybody improves to either a, make the team really good or be for future moves, I don't know and this is just me like looking at whatever any of the rumors that have leaked out or haven't looked leaked out.
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It just sort of seems like this is the team.
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There might be a din, witty trade or something like that, but I mean, look like it's a really strong offensive team.
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It's always been that.
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And now you have sham it in there.
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They just have a lot of guys that can kind of Rove and run around.
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And, you know, and you know, whatever.
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You can do things with them.
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You can run them in horns and have them.
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E was gonna do something.
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So I'm looking at film stuff right now.
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That's why I'm looking at film stuff.
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I finally have my next video kind of planned out.
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So s so I've been looking at a bunch of, you know, Spain, pick and roll in and nonsense.
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Yeah, we're in the building, Um, but regardless, like they have a bunch of guys that makes sense and like at the very least, you don't have a situation where it's like you have a Marcus Morris on the roster where it's like this guy wants his shots.
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He wants his little mid range stuff.
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Like, I think Prince next year maybe could make a little more sense.
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I don't know.
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He's gonna be a needle mover, and I worry about the defense, but at least they're selfless guys, for the most part, that you have all these wings.
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I agree.
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Um, you know, I will say this, Uh, I wish they grabbed one more like one more defensive guy, like, even just a bi lo guy.
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And I don't understand that.
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It also, and this is I don't know if these air links at all, but I do kind of wonder if it's like, Does that say anything about where they are with Harden, that they didn't try to grab a bunch of vet men? Guys? Ooh, I like that.
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Um, so e think like, yes and no.
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I think one of the biggest deterrence for the Nets this off season, it's not $5.
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7 million taxpayers.
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Emily could only do so much.
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I mean, even with, you know, promises of Ibaka getting photo shoots with his favorite scarfs on at the HSS training center.
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We couldn't compete with teams like the Lakers or the Clippers who had more money at their disposal and are also contenders.
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And then we kind of held onto the idea of a Barca for so long and justifiably so.
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I think they really thought that they were going to get him way.
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Saw the names.
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Yeah, when we saw the names like John Michael Green leaves the table more heartless, etcetera.
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Who are possible candidates.
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I think we're on Lee making moves around the edges because I honestly believe that you know, the Nets thing, that they're going to land James Harden.
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Maybe not before, um, training camp or even before this December 22nd start.
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But, you know, approaching next season straight deadline.
00:10:04
Well, I wonder if they view it almost is like we were very close, like we almost got this done.
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So, like, do we really wanna moved in with the for like, you know, maybe, just like don't mess with the package that almost got you there.
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When you know Assumpta, Vly, they're gonna gain more and more leverage over time.
00:10:21
I do wonder if that's a thing a little bit like Hey, maybe we don't need to flip.
00:10:25
I know Alec is in our comments talking about Maxie. Clever.
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But maybe you don't equity for Maxie.
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Clever.
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Because what does Maxie Cleber do? If you know a you could trade, I guess you could just keep him.
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But then you're missing dignity from that trade package who could later be rerouted for, you know, whatever.
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Some other asset. A first round pick for Houston.
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So you're like, you know, you look at how Okay, See, handled things over this this transaction, period.
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That's what Houston I think is going to try to do if they're gonna move hard in.
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I don't know if you could do that.
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If you're a either taking back a cleaver, somebody like that, Like, I just think like, I don't know, a player like did what? He's gonna have a lot more value.
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I think for a lot of teams personally, that's just may.
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Well, it's like it's one of those awkward situations where, like, we've maintained versatility are flexibility with what we can dio.
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But at the same time, we need, like, our own little versatility and flexibility in the form of a wing.
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Yep.
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And we can't really do that right now because we're holding on the hearted like, how hard would have it been to just throw.
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I mean, honestly, even throw money at like Avery Bradley like, Yeah, sure, he's a guard.
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But you at least like he Congar down to like the three, like, try to guard like it's just like that stuff.
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I'm just I don't know.
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That's the part of the off season where I just don't quite get it.
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And I don't know why that stuff didn't happen and, like, look like if they if they had been in the sweepstakes for Mo Harkless, I would be like a great by the way, Mo Harkless.
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I don't know how good he's gonna be next year.
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Like he could be terrible.
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They might be ready to move off him.
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And it's gonna be a big like Oh, well, the the Heat should have kept, you know, Jae Crowder and just paid him, I don't know, but at the very least, you'd like to feel like you're in the mix for that guy for her literally sign.
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It's just I don't know.
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That's the part I'm I think that part is where I can confidently say, like, Yeah, that part was a failure, like they very clearly had a need, and you could have gotten somebody.
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Even if they're not outstanding, You don't even have to be good.
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At the very least, they do the job.
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I agree with you.
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Um, let's talk about the guys they did side.
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So let's start with Joe Harris.
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Hey, this is your This is your time is my time.
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Your time.
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This is my time.
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I wanted thio.
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I wanna I wanna see. I wanna prefixed with this.
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I was actually a little concern that Joe Harris could have been involved in assigning trade, maybe to acquire more assets to get to James Harden.
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Because I knew Atlanta wanted Joe Harrison.
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Like what? What what was reported the worst of way.
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So, like, maybe if they could get draft capital and they think they can get James Harden, that's gonna be involved, like, just thank God that my rational thoughts never came about.
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Yep.
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You had to do this, right? I mean, you can You can, and I've seen it.
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You guys can argue the figure or or the term, but it was also reported that Joe Harris was gonna make somewhere north of 18 million before the signing even happened and losing him for nothing, especially given what this team wants to be next year, was just not an option, right? Yep, I just I don't think other people have watched him.
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I know that's the most annoying.
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That you can say is somebody I didn't want to say.
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That covers a team that's so obnoxious, like you don't really know the real Joe Harris, but, like, I don't know, like thes really good.
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This guy was the second option for a full month, like a full month, And he wasn't He wasn't bad.
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He really wasn't.
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It was like this guy.
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I mean, look like I don't know, I just We do it over and over.
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We do the more than just a shooter thing and, like, I didn't want to say it.
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But yeah, he's just he's gonna make a lot of sense for them and best believe other teams saw him and they were like, Okay, we're Atlanta were 29th or whatever in three point percentage, like bring this guy in.
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He's an immediate the culture change her an upgrade, So it's an obvious move.
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I didn't want to be like super over the top of noxious because I went for the resident Joe Harris.
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So I appreciate you like stepping in and doing that whole.
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He's more than a shooter thing because I've seen that to death dude way.
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All have.
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It's great. I I threw up a click today.
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I was like, You know, I don't remember the last time I felt like I had to defend Joe Harris.
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Oh, what, like this guy? You know, all there? I don't know.
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A soul on nets, Twitter or really in the nets fan base, period.
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That doesn't really like, you know, Joe Harris.
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But right now, all this stuff I'm like, Hey, man, I gotta I gotta I gotta come up.
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Too bad e Appreciate you weigh all.
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Appreciate you for that.
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Um, let's go with their other signing before we go into the sham, it browns.
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And then we'll kind of talk a little bit about how they match up in the East.
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Uh, let's let's Yeah, let's do Jeff Green a couple minutes on Jeff Green.
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Do you? What do you think? Do you think he's gonna open things up? Is there anything or is he just like a solid player? and that's we don't need to do much more beyond that.
00:15:05
It's like it's like a little bit of both, like it's it's it's the same.
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Calm was not as not as intense, but it's similar in The Fact of or ti the tune of 20 prints were like I can fall in love with the idea of Jeff Green, especially in those little brief stints I've seen in the playoffs with Houston.
00:15:22
Him playing, ah five and then, like you add in.
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You know, Katie, I maybe like we have so many possible in game rotations next season and adding in Jeff Green into that mix with the front court of Kevin Durant.
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I mean, you can play five out.
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You can kind of do whatever you want.
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Will that come about, though, as we know how the Jeff Green experience sometimes plays out, I'm not really sure.
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But all in all, I don't think we need to get like, two in depth about it.
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At the minimum, you got a quality player, and I don't think you could go wrong with that.
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He's another guy.
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It just makes me feel more and more like they're gonna do a lot of a lot of pick and roll.
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I think there gonna be a really pick and roll heavy team e.
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I get it.
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I see all this stuff like nationally.
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They were multi position, all those.
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All this stuff, that's fine.
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I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be a pick and roll team.
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I think they're gonna be spread pick and roll.
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And they just have all these, like, look it.
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You have, like, Sham it.
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Harris Prince.
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All these guys make sense, like, sort of cutting around off each other and whatever and doing split cuts and stuff like that, Um and then for them, like Jeff Green's another guy again.
00:16:27
I don't want to extrapolate too much off Houston.
00:16:30
He was good at in an inverted ball screen situation where you have him taking the ball in a smaller player, screening for him versus the other way around.
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Uh, I don't know.
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It just it was the only thing I could take away from that, because defensively, he's fine.
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He's passable, but he does.
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It just sort of feels like everybody's gonna make sense and pick and roll, which is, like all I want because I want Kyrie and Katie and pick and roll together.
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It's all I want in this world.
00:16:53
I think D'Antoni is gonna lock.
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Jeff Green is my heartache.
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There you go.
00:16:57
Oh, look here.
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You kind of has I don't know, like like, kind of defined on Mark.
00:17:03
It's just gonna is it gonna average five assists per game next year? I mean, probably not, but like I am I going to spam nets Twitter with clips of him in the short role? Probably.
00:17:14
Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean again, like it just that seems to be where he should be playing.
00:17:19
Like going forward.
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I I do think there's some things to take out from his little Houston stand.
00:17:25
It's all it's all in all screen situations.
00:17:27
Um, let's close out Bruce Brown.
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Sham it.
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Who do you want to talk about next? Who who stimulates your mind? More of those two, man.
00:17:36
Probably Landry Sham it.
00:17:38
But like, I just want to quickly touch on Bruce Brown because have you heard anything bad about him from like anyone ever i e I don't know if I'm a lot of talk about Bruce E.
00:17:50
Oh my Are you kidding? me.
00:17:52
Where? I don't know if you saw this.
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I'll tell you e don't know.
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Like wearing the dark web.
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You found someone talking trash about Bruce Brown? Everybody.
00:18:01
I'll tell you later.
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E Um yeah.
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No.
00:18:06
Bruce Brown. Uh, yeah.
00:18:08
No, I mean Bruce Brown.
00:18:09
I think he's gonna be the fan favorite.
00:18:10
I've already seen somebody called him the the The Wahba in this chat, which I like.
00:18:16
I like it a lot.
00:18:19
I was digging around clips today, not even for an article.
00:18:23
This is how much I need basketball back.
00:18:26
Just looking at just looking at his steals for fun.
00:18:30
Look, he's picking steals from Kyrie from Ingram from, like, you know, I'm just like this guy is Hanzee.
00:18:37
I like him.
00:18:38
He's the type of player I think we both love.
00:18:40
No, I'm gonna absolutely love this guy.
00:18:42
You're right.
00:18:43
It's just he plays hard.
00:18:45
I always loved infectious passion type of players.
00:18:48
He's a solid on ball defender.
00:18:49
From what I've seen, I think you wrote an article on it for next daily underrated playmaker.
00:18:54
He kind of touched. Based on that, I was surprised.
00:18:56
I'm not gonna lie, But a bunch of pistons Twitter kind of came up to bat had said, Yeah, that's like the thing that's that he probably could have locked in the next level, which cool, I think like four point something sister game and a decent turnover are assisted turnover ratio.
00:19:12
So I'm like, Hey, if that's a thing as well, too Little secondary creator on the second unit.
00:19:16
I'm all for it, man.
00:19:18
Yeah, he's nice.
00:19:19
And I like he's a guy that really read passing lanes.
00:19:23
Well, which is something that, like, just in terms of I don't know, that that stuff I just think it's gonna make such a difference for them.
00:19:30
They've just always been so, so low and deflections.
00:19:34
You need a steals guy.
00:19:35
They've never had one.
00:19:37
They've never had that.
00:19:38
It was like Trey Vion Graham for I don't know, but it like it was It was that level, I think, two years ago, Um uh, just they don't have, like, the guy who gets charges.
00:19:49
I guess Dudley was that for them two years ago this year.
00:19:51
I don't even know.
00:19:52
I didn't even look up that stuff cause I was like, I just don't think they don't know if anybody is even worth looking at.
00:19:59
Eso they need that guy.
00:20:01
They've never I don't know if they've really ever had a Nawab, I guess was that but even he was a little He's a little different.
00:20:08
This guy, Bruce Brown.
00:20:09
Just a little more point of attack.
00:20:11
Um, he's got better all, like, offensive attributes as well.
00:20:16
Yeah, well, he's zippy.
00:20:17
You give him a you give him a little bit of space and he's gonna get to the cup E.
00:20:22
Just remember that again.
00:20:23
This is from like from one Nets game last year, So that could be.
00:20:29
That's what my scouting is.
00:20:30
I'm so far, um, because I was shaming and what kind of talk about how they match against the rest of the conference Sham.
00:20:40
It's interesting.
00:20:41
I'm like, Really? And I'm not just saying this because he's on the Nets or anything, because I don't e.
00:20:47
I think most people know I don't have much emotional stake in the game with the Nets.
00:20:51
Um, I really liked him last year, and I thought he was really misused.
00:20:55
I think he's got a little bit of extra playmaking chops that I want to see more of on die.
00:21:01
By all accounts, it seems like that stuff may happen in Steve Nash's offense.
00:21:04
Um, I don't know.
00:21:06
I I want curious to know what your evaluation is of him.
00:21:09
It's kind of similar one because, like, I'm not gonna lie to you.
00:21:13
I haven't watched too much lander Salmon, and I know if he has had playoff struggles, but he's also was a sop****re this year, I believe he's still young.
00:21:21
Still figuring it out.
00:21:22
That's not really concerned for me.
00:21:24
Um, adding in another I mean career 40% shooter, an elite catch and shoot got I mean, like I said of the endgame rotations.
00:21:32
I mean, it could just be by committee and national D'Antoni.
00:21:35
And then they have so many different options like you could go potentially like a Kyrie, Osama Joe, Katie, Jeff Green and go five out and just I mean, that's going to be so much from the watch.
00:21:45
So just having another guy like him down the rotation like I say, career 40% shooter, the defensive end.
00:21:54
He plays with passion and he tries his best, kind of like Joe Harris does.
00:22:00
But like at some point, you're just not that athletic were being a little loose with three and D on 20.
00:22:07
So it's like when we brought in Shannon.
00:22:10
I'm like, Okay, hold on like he's just slow down.
00:22:15
Let my man live a little bit like he's ball screens.
00:22:19
They're gonna be a little bit of an issue, like there's gonna be things that are gonna not be awesome with him.
00:22:24
He's a smart player. He's in the right places.
00:22:26
E no.
00:22:28
I mean that that part z the reactions that she might have been funny so far.
00:22:34
I know.
00:22:36
All right, let's get into this.
00:22:37
This how they stack up? Sure.
00:22:40
Where do you see them finishing in the East? You could do regular season and then do you see them as a finals team? It's again like it's hard to predict the Nets.
00:22:51
I mean, like, you know this better than anyone is.
00:22:54
Well, one, they operate out of left field.
00:22:56
I mean, the harden trade might not happen, but all Senate boom like Bradley bills of Brooklyn net in February with that really surprised anybody e don't know, considering like how, Like I said, I don't like field they operate, so I'm gonna say James Harden isn't on the team just for this? Uh, this for the sake.
00:23:13
72 game season.
00:23:15
I see.
00:23:16
Like a what? School? 45 27.
00:23:18
Now what? That Lance, during the East, I'm not really sure my prediction for this season was gonna be like a three or four seats, but one of those really dangerous three or four seeds that really step it up another level in the playoffs as far as the Eastern Conference playoff goes, I mean, man, I see them at least being the Eastern Conference finals.
00:23:38
I really do see them coming out of the East.
00:23:40
I'm not just saying that as a Nets blogger, Um, especially if they added a defensive wing.
00:23:45
They added, like a solid defensive wing, like if they were to go out like I'm all there, you guys stretched baking and Jeff Green so well, I'll lay that to rest for now, But I see a finals appearance in their destiny this next coming season.
00:24:04
Just because the East, it's like there's so many question marks for me.
00:24:07
Still, I think a lot of the team's got worse.
00:24:10
Honestly, like the Raptors, they're the obvious ones.
00:24:12
You could point to the Pacers.
00:24:14
I don't know.
00:24:15
I mean, I don't even know I'm bringing up the Pacers.
00:24:16
I don't know.
00:24:17
That was the first name I thought of.
00:24:18
Uh, I'm like, Okay, we'll just move on for that s o the Raptors got worth the Celtics.
00:24:27
I'm of the mind that the Celtics first out, they already have a Kimba injury, which is, like, that team just cannot stay healthy.
00:24:33
Anybody that that signs there for Max deal is just not gonna be healthy II, which sucks because I want them to be healthy.
00:24:39
Even if they did, though, did their bench get any better? Like, I actually think Brad Wanamaker might be better, uh, than Jeff Teague.
00:24:48
I've been kind of going back and forth, but Jeff Teague is not good anymore on bike Thompson.
00:24:56
Okay, Like, I think they're gonna miss Hayward a little bit just because the plane good the plane people looked at the contract.
00:25:04
Yeah, they needed that.
00:25:05
He was He was actually relatively good for Boston last year.
00:25:08
That was a huge loss. Yep.
00:25:10
I agree.
00:25:11
And like so they're in a tricky spot. The heat.
00:25:13
Who knows? I don't know how much Z That's the wild card for me right now.
00:25:16
But there there were kind of like, I mean, we're not going to see it with the Nuggets, But they're like, Are they a bubble overachiever? Are they that good? I don't know.
00:25:26
Yeah, we're really about to find out.
00:25:29
Kind of like what they are and not make.
00:25:31
Might make heat fence, man.
00:25:33
Like you guys just, you know, representing the Eastern Conference in the finals.
00:25:36
And, yeah, it was a great Oh, I might have lost him.
00:25:51
All right, we'll see if we can get him back.
00:25:56
I'm not a huge believer in them is.
00:25:57
Well, um, I lost you for a second.
00:26:01
Do you mind repeating that? Okay.
00:26:03
No noise.
00:26:04
Um, sorry.
00:26:05
That's my That's my your good action up here in Canada.
00:26:08
It's not that great in my igloo.
00:26:10
Um, no, I think like with the Sixers, for instance, I'm really not really quite sure what to make of them how their chemistry is going into playing out this season, I think getting out off Al Horford del Maury like Okay, Yeah, I forgot Teasdale Maury.
00:26:25
Now he's in the Atlantic Division.
00:26:26
That's gonna be a pain in our side, moving forward.
00:26:29
But I still don't think that they necessarily have what it takes in the firepower to get past the Nets as well.
00:26:36
So I mean, there's parody right now, man, and it's it's fun.
00:26:40
And it's also a little scary.
00:26:42
Yeah, you know.
00:26:43
So I think the three for me right now, I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble for snubbing the Celtics.
00:26:49
I want to say it's the Bucks and the Sixers.
00:26:51
I like what the Sixers did a lot just by like bringing in.
00:26:54
I don't even character talent got worse, which I don't think it did.
00:26:57
But if you want to say that, sure, Um, but just God, that roster makes so much more sense.
00:27:02
And like if you could just get those if you get Embiid and Simmons healthy and on the same page with shooters, I don't know like that's kind of a bad matchup for the Nets and a lot of ways likely agree with that.
00:27:15
I don't know.
00:27:17
I would not want to do any like I really wouldn't want anything to do with them.
00:27:20
They weirdly kind of remind me of the Lakers to a degree just because they're so long and big like they have.
00:27:26
But they have table on the bench who, like put Joe Harrison jail like honest, honest to God jail.
00:27:31
I was like, What is going on there? Pretty good.
00:27:36
So they're kind of the team I'm looking at, like I think, if it would be so fun, by the way, if we had a Sixers Nets, I want them can't conference finals.
00:27:44
Me, too. I want a conference finals.
00:27:46
I e think they could beat the Bucks.
00:27:48
I do Get out here Bucks e.
00:27:52
Did you do like the Bucks off season? I thought they honestly did a decent job of maneuvering around that Bogdanovich mess, and that was just one giant mess.
00:28:02
I mean, the adulatory Craig had it in, I think was D.
00:28:05
J.
00:28:06
Augustine as well.
00:28:07
I want to say like That's a decent acquisition.
00:28:09
I drew Holiday great defender, but like he was closing for them down the stretch it do it.
00:28:15
It's It's Middleton Yanis uh, by committee Brook Lopez.
00:28:20
Maybe I don't know his Brook Lopez gonna be as good as he was last year is a year older.
00:28:25
I know exactly.
00:28:26
I don't know what I don't know what to think with them, but it's it's not.
00:28:29
I'm not over the moon about it.
00:28:30
Honestly, No, I'm not exactly either.
00:28:34
And like these last two postseasons have kind of shown.
00:28:36
But, hey, you can kind of scheme for them a certain way, really made your life miserable.
00:28:42
I agree.
00:28:43
And like, I don't know, they're just I don't like the coaching situation and, like they have like Bobby Portis there and just it's a weird it kind of.
00:28:52
It feels very like late first time around for for LeBron in Cleveland, where they, like, make all these moves and you're like, Oh, that's kind of an interesting team And then it just they're done early and he's gone.
00:29:04
And I, By the way, I don't know if he's gonna leave.
00:29:07
It just sort of feels like that, um, sort of a vibe.
00:29:10
I'm not terribly scared of them because I don't I'm not really I don't know.
00:29:16
Oh, we're gonna You know, those those were gonna come back and haunt us.
00:29:19
We'll find out.
00:29:20
But as of right now, I'm not overly terrified about him.
00:29:24
Of the Lakers, we have to ask.
00:29:26
She terrifies me mad.
00:29:29
A who? Like what? Okay, so say, like, hypothetically, we get a nest Lakers final, which is again, something I want.
00:29:36
I don't want the Clippers. I want the Lakers.
00:29:39
Are they gonna run Marc Gasol 80 as a front card? Are they going to go 80 treasures like, How do you think they're gonna line up against us? I think you play big.
00:29:48
I think you play big.
00:29:50
And because it's gonna be the battle of the Nets trying to make them play small so they could go. Jeff Green.
00:29:56
I hope Jeff Green isn't playing that much in the final.
00:29:59
Eso whoever.
00:30:02
Maybe they get that center that, like four or five center on a buyout market or something like that.
00:30:06
Let's just say Jeff Green placeholder, Maybe Jeff Green.
00:30:10
So you have that or even just run Katie at the five.
00:30:12
I wouldn't lean into it that much, but maybe you do that.
00:30:15
Um, So you have whatever you have.
00:30:17
There's the net small ball lineup.
00:30:19
They're trying to make the Lakers put a D at the five.
00:30:22
I know that sounds weird because that's like where they're at.
00:30:26
I know but they have no one to.
00:30:29
They have no way of dealing with the Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, LeBron, whatever. KCP.
00:30:36
Who's the last guy gonna be Caruso? I don't know Caruso.
00:30:40
Probably the two or was Matthew's.
00:30:42
Even Who are they? Neither One of George Allen's improving? Still, not maybe at the level that you want him to be defending Gasela the Ark You definitely don't want, I don't know.
00:30:54
I don't know if you definitely don't want Jordan there e against Marcus.
00:30:59
So I think that's or if they're going, if they're to go huge, See, I'm kind of the opposite.
00:31:04
I kind of Well, no, wait, I don't know, but they don't want it because they have to stretch options like they they have Davis, obviously.
00:31:11
And then they have Gasol.
00:31:13
Um, I don't know.
00:31:14
I don't I don't love that.
00:31:16
I just think it's such a bad matchup for the Nets right now in Ibaka.
00:31:20
I know, I know.
00:31:22
That's why I wanted him so bad.
00:31:23
And he's not even that good on the perimeter.
00:31:25
But, like it's just you, at least I don't know.
00:31:28
You, at least can tell yourself that he's been around the perimeter.
00:31:31
It's just it's sad.
00:31:32
You know what my my loan my loan hope for right now as it is as constructed right as constructed.
00:31:38
This can definitely change man.
00:31:41
The two man game of 80 and LeBron like you're really not going to stop it like you see it unnecessary.
00:31:46
We need an 80 stop or maybe even for those irrational.
00:31:49
If we need a LeBron stopper, they don't exist.
00:31:52
Um, it's as much the responsibility as the players and personal on the floor as it is the coaching staff to try to scheme Thio deflect their effectiveness because you can really only hope to contain them.
00:32:04
You're not gonna outright stop him.
00:32:06
But like, if kcp Crusoe, um even Kuzma or where's Matthews? If they get really cold from three because we've seen like in this final is the Lakers can offensively stagnate.
00:32:18
And I don't think that's gonna be our issue on the other end of the floor to Yeah, so it's gonna be a really weird Siri's, but it's like the Nets can get ridiculously hot.
00:32:28
I think they have to play all shooters, right? They kind of have Oh, yeah.
00:32:45
Can you just be the team.
00:32:46
That's like we're gonna be the Rockets.
00:32:48
But with better leadership, like can we just kind of play the math game? I almost wonder if that's what you're doing because your roster is constructed that way.
00:32:55
You don't have the big Wings, but you at least have the shooters there.
00:33:00
I don't know.
00:33:01
That's the only thing I could think of that, and I would actually would agree with that, too.
00:33:05
But like the man, the thing about the Lakers is they just They rotate so hard defensively, they really make up lost ground.
00:33:13
Way talked.
00:33:14
We message about this A lot.
00:33:15
KCP was so good against it was Duncan Robinson.
00:33:18
It waas on.
00:33:20
That's gonna be probably like that Joe Harris matchup because we know he likes.
00:33:24
He does not like to shoot.
00:33:25
Contested.
00:33:26
Looks like he's a smart player, almost to a detriment like you're like, Okay, I have a clip on my computer where it's like bad shot from Joe Harris exclamation point exclamation explanation point, Because I'm so excited that there's a look that was semi contested like no e.
00:33:41
I see it all the time in game or like Joe Harris will have enough room that maybe pop it, but it's off the dribble.
00:33:46
Or maybe he has toe kind of contort mid air, and he'll just bring the ball back down and look for a clean look elsewhere.
00:33:53
It's like, Man.
00:33:54
And in the finals, you may have to just pop that.
00:33:56
And that could be where Landry Chamakh comes in and really, really elevates our office.
00:34:01
He will shoot those.
00:34:02
Yeah, he's got a little wiggle.
00:34:03
I'm not going to say he's like this crazy pull a player, but he at least we'll put the ball on the floor and be like I actually wrote about this.
00:34:10
I think on the night that he I guess that it was made official. So I get drafted.
00:34:15
Um, he does little things like he'll wait for a big man to set a ball screen He could like.
00:34:21
He can pull up off the three and and take advantage of a Bigas.
00:34:25
You know, sagging in and playing drop like that stuff's pretty essential, and I just don't think they had a guard like that last year at all. I e.
00:34:33
I couldn't tell you, I guess, didn't witty that your non chi regards.
00:34:36
I guess did what he would do that.
00:34:38
But he's much better shooter than didn't what he is.
00:34:40
No, no, I I agree there, too.
00:34:42
So that's a nice wrinkle.
00:34:43
Like little things like that.
00:34:44
Like, yeah, we could sit here and say, Oh, the Nets offense can't really improve but like you actually can.
00:34:49
I think they have improved it quite a bit.
00:34:51
But how do you think they match up against the Clippers? Better, but it's still not the matchup I want.
00:34:59
Like I I just want like a Nets Lakers.
00:35:02
I mean, just from like a product standpoint, Katie LeBron that fantastic, right? But against the Clippers, the Clippers, it's some nice things.
00:35:11
Obviously, they got Serge Ibaka, which we didn't.
00:35:13
Luke Kennard, I thought, was a really nice edition.
00:35:15
He's good in the pick and roll.
00:35:16
No one likes it.
00:35:17
Why? I haven't seen anybody excited because I I think I think most people are scared about the defense about like men.
00:35:23
They have it.
00:35:24
I think health, too, but like maybe that, too.
00:35:27
But it's like man, they get an additional creator and he is.
00:35:30
He is.
00:35:31
He is fluid, like his game is nice to watch offensively.
00:35:34
So I thought that was another great edition.
00:35:36
You subtract Montrezl Harrell, which hey, like e.
00:35:41
I mean, what we saw in the playoffs is that really a bad thing? Yeah.
00:35:44
No, I totally agree.
00:35:45
I totally agree.
00:35:46
And, like, look at their center rotation Now.
00:35:49
Now the rotation is eyes.
00:35:51
Why am I forgetting his name? I mentioned him all the time.
00:35:53
Zoo boche, uh, up option.
00:36:10
Well, the Clippers now have that, and you have to really fun players that do both of those things.
00:36:15
So it's they're in a nice spot.
00:36:19
It's It's a more balanced roster can.
00:36:21
Art is kind of like if you put Lou Williams and Sham it in a blender on you made them into one player.
00:36:30
That's kind of what Con artist.
00:36:31
If he's healthy, he's really good.
00:36:33
He's good in the pick and roll.
00:36:34
Um, he could shoot the hell out of the ball.
00:36:38
I think there are a lot better and just getting rid of personalities to helps.
00:36:43
I think another underrated aspect in all of this is getting off of.
00:36:47
I don't think he's a bad coach, but I thought reference just wasn't working in L. A and adding in Thailand.
00:36:51
Like, if Ty Lue is what a lot of these bloggers and ****ysts say he is Oh, man, they're gonna be a problem.
00:36:59
We're gonna find out who we were talking.
00:37:02
I've said of a lot of very nice things about Tyler, like retroactively.
00:37:06
And, uh, well, we're gonna learn if those were those were sound sound reason it's gonna be somebody fun, little like in season.
00:37:15
There it is, like that was going into the playoffs.
00:37:17
Yeah, which is cool because it was an off season where it was not a good draft, really.
00:37:23
But even the draft kind of shook out fun, and then the freeze class wasn't great either.
00:37:27
But like you have a lot of it's certain teams have risen in ways I didn't expect them to, um and and so you have, like the sons and I don't know, like some of the other teams in the West.
00:37:38
I think Portland got a lot better.
00:37:40
Portland is a great example.
00:37:41
Even Golden State's kind of funky, which is not how what we wanted obviously wanted them to be a title competitors, er but it's fun.
00:37:49
It was a good offseason.
00:37:51
Um all right.
00:37:52
What's the next closing rotation then? I got a fun question for you.
00:37:56
So do you go with talent or do you go with fit? I think that's gonna be the question.
00:38:01
Can do a couple of quick.
00:38:02
We can answer this in a couple of ways.
00:38:04
We could say because there is a couple of ways answer by all means do the talent.
00:38:09
One.
00:38:10
If you're going talent, he's gonna put the best players on the floor, I think.
00:38:13
And this is also saying that they're not gonna get traded.
00:38:16
Who knows? Right? Carried in, Woody.
00:38:19
Honestly, you might even be able to do like a Kyrie.
00:38:21
Didn't really care.
00:38:22
Is Joe Katie at the five? If Nash really wants to go position list, I agree.
00:38:27
Like like that's just the most talent on the floor.
00:38:30
And like I said, maybe the Nets best defense is more offense.
00:38:33
And that's exactly what that is.
00:38:35
Yeah, and I think God, I wish they I guess you would have the issue is, is like I worry a little bit on the other side, like, most likely you're probably gonna be going.
00:38:47
I said I So So it's like, OK, Well, it's not like these guys need to be like head on a swivel working together, but like if they get cooked, it's like, Okay, Katie's Katie's a good rim protector, but he's like, You're only said like Onley source of back line protection.
00:39:02
So you're right, you're playing the Lakers and it's like, Oh, that's where I have problems but catch But over the bucks, even like the Bucks could just go to the bread and butter.
00:39:15
Middleton Yanis pick and roll.
00:39:17
And I don't know what the Nets do against that, but at the very least, like that's a really talented lineup.
00:39:23
The cool thing about it is, yeah, you look at on paper, you go.
00:39:26
Okay, well, you know it za bunch of guys that need the ball in their hands. Well, not really.
00:39:30
Because actually, like the weakest shooter in that group is Carris and, like Carris is at the very least, like passable from catch and shoot situations.
00:39:39
I've written a lot about it, probably a little too much about how not awesome he is in catch and shoot situations, but he's still like I would trust him toe.
00:39:46
If he doesn't doesn't make the shot.
00:39:48
He's gonna make the right play and get into the right player.
00:39:51
Yeah, I also think like there's like, almost a misconception with care.
00:39:55
So yeah, that we know that the best version of care is ultimately has the ball in his hands on the high usage right? But like he's, he's malleable.
00:40:01
He's come off the bench, is a six man, he's willing to adapt more roles, and I think he's gonna be able to do that with, like, Katie and Kyrie.
00:40:09
He's gonna understand that you need to take a back seat and really try to make this work, and I think that's also but they've been working, working on basically all offseason.
00:40:16
I mean, it's like everywhere we see Kyrie or Katie, we also see Kerry's Yeah, yep, I do wonder if that's a big point for them with this hardened stuff.
00:40:24
I'm not saying he wasn't included because I think he obviously you had to do that.
00:40:28
But I just wonder like they just seem to value him so so much internally that when it comes to like, oh, are we gonna make you know our first round pick in 2025 or 2026 unprotected or we're gonna make that a pick swap.
00:40:45
I wonder if caress was the sticking point? Well, no, we're actually already giving you Caris. Levert.
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Why are we giving you an unprotected pick in 2026? I don't know.
00:40:52
That's the only I could think of.
00:40:53
Um, it's hard to gauge how much this organization, I mean, all ultimately way know that they love him.
00:41:02
Yeah, about it's like it's hard to gauge how willing they are to put him into, like, a trade back.
00:41:09
It's just like you said.
00:41:11
Yeah, e I agree.
00:41:13
I mean, like, he's been the sticking point.
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I, uh, the holiday thing.
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I think he was the sticking point in that and, you know, and I that's like, like, sort of just a little bit that I've heard about that.
00:41:26
That seems to be what the sticking point was.
00:41:29
So yeah, I don't know.
00:41:31
And it's it's interesting because I don't We differ on this.
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I think quite a bit.
00:41:36
I'm not of the mind.
00:41:38
I'm not saying he's gonna be a bad third star, but I don't know if it's the most natural fit.
00:41:42
You feel a lot better about it.
00:41:44
If you're right when you say it's not the most natural fit because it's I'd be lying to say if if it waas on, I'm not going to come out and say like, Oh, well, you know what He bridges the two arrows he deserves Toe be on this, you know, Contender next season.
00:41:59
Ultimately, you make the best basketball decision.
00:42:01
That's what Sharon Marks is going to do.
00:42:03
He's proven to be, if you want to call it a ruthless or whatever in the past, and he will do that again, put caress meant like one.
00:42:10
The relationship with Katie and Kyrie is so glaring to me to I think you can honestly make it work, even if he's not a great catch and shoot threat.
00:42:20
Um, you can stay your minutes accordingly.
00:42:23
You always have, like a pretty **** good ball handler and creator on the floor at all times.
00:42:29
I mean, there's value in that, and we saw that there's value in that in the playoffs, you know what I want to see is him using cutting situations more e.
00:42:38
I really, really want him uses a cutter more.
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I think he barely qualified on synergy This is the point where we've hit the point in the project.
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E talking dirty ****ytic talk.
00:42:48
Let's go.
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Synergy stats, podcast.
00:42:50
Uh, nobody, like, barely qualified.
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And like I, you know, even looking through my clips and this is for the video I'm doing.
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So I'm not just looking at their super cutting clips.
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Although I already mentioned I was looking at Bruce Brown steals.
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So I'm not helping myself.
00:43:06
Yeah, I'm a loser.
00:43:09
I think the whole world knows that.
00:43:11
No, I mean, he just like it's something they very, very rarely used him as.
00:43:16
Like, I think he's a really smart player, like he understands the angles and the how the floor spacing works.
00:43:23
We saw that in the bubble dealing it.
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He knows exactly where guys, we're going, what's open in the corner? What happens when Oh, I'm playing with TLC and he likes to go back to her behind the defense.
00:43:33
When he gets run off the line, he knows all that stuff.
00:43:35
So why couldn't he be that guy in the corner back cutting? He's so explosive and athletic.
00:43:40
He's so crafty, too.
00:43:42
I actually think that makes it really interesting as a cutter we could see it, though.
00:43:47
That's the thing, right? Like he could turn into that player and then that just makes the Nets all the more dynamic.
00:43:54
It's It's like the ideal version of them is so intriguing to me, and I think I'm starting to settle into that.
00:44:01
It's just like I want to see Durant set ball screens because I think that's super interesting.
00:44:07
I want to see Caris Levert as a cutter.
00:44:09
Now these air not things like if these air your stars.
00:44:12
Yeah, you're not really, like, prototypical.
00:44:15
You're not gonna see that from them that much.
00:44:17
But that's kind of what makes I think great teams great.
00:44:20
Is that the star players? Yeah, they are willing to be, You know, they're willing to do role player things.
00:44:25
It's just it's it's striking.
00:44:27
Like you look at Durant and okay, See, he just he would kind of stand to the side when Russ was doing his thing.
00:44:33
It's like, you know, looking back and you're like, Man, I wish you were like getting involved with Westbrook.
00:44:37
That'd be really interesting if you were mixed in like that.
00:44:39
Um and and the same thing goes for now, I'm like, I want to see this.
00:44:43
I want to see these guys working together because I think there is a way to do it.
00:44:48
No, I did Thio for Kyrie and Katie is just because you mentioned the whole rust Katie thing and I agree.
00:44:53
I think they're gonna be running a lot of pick and roll action of those who just attacking mismatches just humanly Yes.
00:44:59
Yep, And like getting plays in the post.
00:45:02
So, like, you know, Katie slips and he gets into the post and all the sudden he's matched up against, we'll pick up, we'll pick up.
00:45:09
Let's let's say Fred VanVleet lead deserve this.
00:45:13
Like he's got 11 ft of advantage on VanVleet.
00:45:20
So, like, that's the stuff I want to see.
00:45:22
And it's like sitting right there like people are like, Oh, I wonder if he's gonna do motion offense or seven seconds realize I'm like, Honestly, it seems really easy.
00:45:30
The hard part is defense, and Nash seems to get that because that's all he brings up his defense.
00:45:34
The offense is it's all there like we know what they're gonna dio, so it'll be it'll be a mix of what they've been doing in the past? Um, let's talk about the best fit rotation woman, best fit rotation.
00:45:48
So I feel like I just have to insert DeAndre Jordan at the five.
00:45:52
So I feel like I think that's the right assessment.
00:45:55
Yeah.
00:45:56
For the most part, I wanna I feel like I kind of need Teoh.
00:46:01
You know what? He was playing better than I'm not gonna get on that, though.
00:46:04
No, let's talk.
00:46:05
Let's talk it up. Let's talk of DeAndre Jordan.
00:46:07
Let's dio Okay, you know what? They're gonna suck defensively, so you he gives you a little more on offense.
00:46:14
It's got a little dribble handoff game Better, Better playmaker had a couple of nights bombs, passes toe cutting men.
00:46:21
Who cares next year if we're gonna tie together, opens up the offense a bit.
00:46:26
You run the high action picking wrong with him, I guess.
00:46:29
I mean, it's you know what he's only going to get, like 67 field goal attempts per game, and they're probably all gonna be wide open because teams were trying to compensate for open, you know, three point shooters or Katie and Kyrie.
00:46:42
And then he's just gigantic and downloading a dunker spot and getting easy buckets.
00:46:46
So maybe I could be talked into that.
00:46:48
You know, Katie probably gonna be here for, um I don't think he's gonna be down three to start. I see.
00:46:57
I see.
00:46:58
And again, like, if he's in that, I'm just gonna go again once again.
00:47:00
Like as is, I think National puts men probably Joe at the three Kyrie Kyrie at the one carries other two years. I agree.
00:47:10
I agree.
00:47:11
I think that I think that's the starting five.
00:47:13
And I think your bench what do you think the bench is? Actually, the bench is more interesting to me, man.
00:47:21
Obviously.
00:47:22
Then what is 36 men? Let's let's include Genuity for now.
00:47:24
I'm not working under the assumption anything is gonna get done right now.
00:47:27
Okay, Chatham, It's probably your seventh man.
00:47:30
He's gonna be getting at least 18 to 21 minutes a game.
00:47:33
Uh, Bruce Brown needs his minutes.
00:47:35
We need an on ball defender.
00:47:37
I mean, Bruce Brown could honestly, he could potentially close games, too, if he's just disrupting things on the other end of the floor like that's another possibility.
00:47:44
Um, TLC.
00:47:46
I think he's played himself into minutes, at least in the early part of the season.
00:47:49
I think the bubble play has got him those minutes.
00:47:52
It might just be spotting.
00:47:54
Is there not not Be significant, but they're going to be there for him Is well, Jared Allen.
00:47:59
Probably gonna play almost like identical minutes.
00:48:03
I would think as 300 Jordan that this is what they're rocking with.
00:48:06
Kinda.
00:48:07
They did that for most part of the last season anyway, So I I c d j painting like 20 to 24 Joe Allen 21 22 in that ballpark.
00:48:15
Obviously, if t j gets a foul trouble, we have another big That kind of does a lot of the same things.
00:48:21
Um uh Tyler John Situation.
00:48:25
I don't know how it's gonna play out, and that's like, didn't woody insurance, But I think he's gonna get his minutes as well, too.
00:48:30
I like what he's shown in the bubble.
00:48:32
He's just smooth fluid.
00:48:33
I always like lefties.
00:48:34
Men like lefties always will have a sweet spot for them outside of that man.
00:48:40
It's wherever you want to implement.
00:48:43
There's a guy passed first point guard.
00:48:46
No Geos, no.
00:48:47
I think I could agree with Tyler Johnson over.
00:48:49
Chose, I would agree with.
00:48:50
I can't I can't push back on that justice where I'm going.
00:48:54
You don't even mention Jeff Green.
00:48:56
Oh, my goodness.
00:48:59
He'll get his minutes.
00:49:00
He'll get his minutes.
00:49:01
Um, it's just It's just a different look.
00:49:04
Something new? I don't know.
00:49:06
You mentioned tp No.
00:49:08
You played Bruce.
00:49:09
You went small lineup, You said Oh, really? Yeah, man, I've watched too much short marks basketball.
00:49:14
This is why meeting went small.
00:49:16
Just give me all the cards. Zero.
00:49:18
Could Bruce Brown play the four e Think you could do it? Honestly, it's like like first round.
00:49:28
He had, like, Mitch Creek who e like this.
00:49:34
Lunges Simon looking inch taller. Thio.
00:49:38
Yeah.
00:49:40
No, I I, uh I it's They almost have too many kinds.
00:49:47
E I was thinking of my man.
00:49:49
I'm like, I even know where to go with this anymore After I got, like, two Mad number eight.
00:49:53
Yeah, Like how deep of a rotation to go in the regular season.
00:49:56
You have, like, 10 players, maybe 11 like this cruise play.
00:50:01
No, no, no, no, no.
00:50:05
I have seen enough.
00:50:06
I have seen enough after the bubble.
00:50:09
I e I've seen enough, but no, like so then you have, like, Jeff Green and prints on the fringes.
00:50:18
Yeah, those guys, I think, should play.
00:50:20
I actually would put TLC and over over.
00:50:22
Prince, this is such a sad way.
00:50:25
Might need to wrap this up.
00:50:26
This is what I'm getting into my 50 minutes in.
00:50:28
This is where we going now.
00:50:30
Just like, Hey, hold on.
00:50:32
Who has more upside TLC? Your Taurean prince.
00:50:35
This is a It is a different, uh, another call.
00:50:39
All right, I'm gonna hit you with this.
00:50:42
What was your favorite? I would have told you this ahead of time, but I just know you're gonna have something off the top of your head because you are a numbers maniac.
00:50:50
What was your favorite stat of last year? Jesus, Matthew.
00:50:57
You know what? You know what? I just use it in article, and it's only when I was coming to mind.
00:51:01
Right now.
00:51:02
Joe Harris, 52.
00:51:03
3% on wide open looks, and they're gonna be wide open all season this year.
00:51:08
Mm. Yeah.
00:51:09
That number is astounding.
00:51:11
Yeah, he could shoot like 48% from three or some ridiculous man, they're gonna be there.
00:51:17
It's pretty nuts that seeing that number, I look up Shan.
00:51:22
It's wide open numbers.
00:51:23
I think they were in the not good this year.
00:51:27
That is good this year.
00:51:28
And I was like, That's pretty good And I was like, What's your Harris? And I was like, All right, I need to, like, shut down my computer or something like that, Yeah, but that's like you said, You you've mentioned this to me like multiple times.
00:51:40
You really feel like the Clippers misuse land Osama.
00:51:42
If you look at his stats from like your one year to you might be onto something.
00:51:46
So yeah, I just They put the ball in his hands a lot.
00:51:50
It was weird toe watch, like in the bubble.
00:51:52
I was just like, Why is this guy like I don't mind it? I It's cool if he could dribble and do things, but it's like, Why am I seeing more of that than him coming off? You know, coming off a stagger screen or or him cutting through the middle, coming off like you know, whatever, like you're coming off a pin down down low like I want more of that.
00:52:09
Running up some sloppy, like, let's do that.
00:52:12
Like I don't know why you're not doing that.
00:52:13
There we go.
00:52:14
I'm almost dropped every single annoying stagger poppy pin down porn.
00:52:19
I've done everything on this.
00:52:21
What else gonna experience that I mentioned? I mentioned pistol or something like that.
00:52:27
Bringing a wrapped er Yeah.
00:52:29
Oh, All right.
00:52:33
Well, that was a pretty good answer.
00:52:35
I like the Joe Harris one.
00:52:36
I wanna let you plug away anything you have coming out.
00:52:38
Anything you're working on.
00:52:39
Um, I actually got an article.
00:52:41
I've been talking to some business guys about Bruce Brown.
00:52:43
So I'm going to do a round tape.
00:52:45
Of what? That they'll be out for nets daily.
00:52:47
You could find me on Twitter and underscored Jensen, J and S E N 95.
00:52:53
And yeah, that's all I got for you, man. It's always fun.
00:52:56
Thank you. Having me appreciate it, we'll do this soon.
00:52:58
Yes, sir.
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What to Make of the Brooklyn Nets Offseason w/ Nolan Jensen of NetsDaily

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Matt Brooks @MattBrooks
Basketball & More Podcast

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No, my *** was hungry.
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When got him a play he broke. Get out of the way.
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They look at me now like you gotta be paid.
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I looked at the game.
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They gotta be slaves.
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This **** ain't never gonna stop, right? You're thinking like, how is he raised? I used to trap in the ring guard that I changed.
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Trying to go back to them way Go around.
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Come around, my ***.
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That's coming. Just trying to add another com.
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Alright, I feel like that.
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Yeah, we're here.
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We're in the building.
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Were live right now.
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What's up, people? I got our favorite Canadian here.
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Welcome, everybody back to basketball and more with your host, Matt Brooks.
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This is, of course, a SportsCastr official VOD cast.
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I'm in the next year.
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I got no one Jensen on the biggest Joe Harris stand out there.
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I know there's gonna be some contentious, uh, you know, argument for that, But I had to bring you on.
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It's the only thing that happened in this last week.
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And then as well Joe Harris recently.
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How you doing, my friend? I don't know about biggest and man.
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We have quite the community growing right now, but thank you for having me on.
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So it was fun.
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Stock, little free agency.
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It feels like everything happened, but simultaneously, nothing happened.
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You know what I mean? Yeah.
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No, I, uh, not like, the biggest thing I was excited about was, like sleeping for two days last few days.
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Something like this is great.
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I'm in bed by 11.
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30 like, Oh, yeah, because I'm old, man, like I'm on the other side.
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It's over for me.
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I don't I don't work till four.
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AM anymore.
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No, it's We're on the other side of it.
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It doesn't seem like we're gonna get that much.
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I mean, hardened thing, which is I think it a hangover us till we have grandchildren.
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But but But we're here.
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Um, look, the state of the nets right now.
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Uh, it's Let's I don't wanna talk too much about Twitter.
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I don't wanna make the show about Twitter, but we're both in the same community.
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Very.
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We're talking about twitter.
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We're talking about Twitter.
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We're gonna do it right we're talking about, um there are two parties right now.
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There are the trust marks.
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Yeah, and then the other side is the This is a complete disaster.
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I think that's somewhere in the middle.
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You can both say that there is.
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This was not a season.
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Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, this that It's fine to say no, like I'm with you, I think like, as you said, there's a demographic of people are just saying like this is a complete disaster.
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Marks is obviously not the kind of guy that handle having Kevin Durant in Cairo living in this era.
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And there's all the people would say, like, Hey, shut your mouth, trust Sean Marks.
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What do you guys talking about it.
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And then there's like this this weird demographic in the middle.
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Where is this? Like I'm not panicking.
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I'm just making, like, small critiques.
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I still think we need a wing defender.
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But to say that this off season has been a failure, I don't I don't think that's necessarily fair, because I mean, like, look, the quick recap.
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Bruce Brown.
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That was a great move.
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You get rid of Jonah Moussa, a 2021 2nd round pick via Toronto, which I mean that has, like, how much value not not that much whatsoever.
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Jalen Hands, who I liked in Long Island, but let's be honest with ourselves.
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Wasn't going to sniff the rotation next year.
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And we got a legit contributor, a great on ball defender, which is exactly what this thing needs out of it.
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And that's That's a good move, right? And also turning the 19th pick, which ended up parlaying the City Bay.
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And that was heartbreaking for me to watch a job, to be like that close and then see him the part over the Detroit.
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But, you know, there was no guarantee that he was also going to contribute on this roster next year as a rookie.
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And you get Landry Shaman, who is going to do exactly that when the rotation inevitably Titans to eight or nine men, he's gonna be around career.
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40% shooter, great complementary asset.
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And then you get Jeff Green, so that's far in free agency at the minimum and show great Spurs, a stretch five in Houston dynamic in a short role and adds in a little versatility.
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Ease.
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So I know missing on Serge Ibaka socked.
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I feel you I could completely do, and right now we're in that unfortunate holding pattern with James Harden.
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But to say that this has been a holistic failure, I don't think that's necessarily fair.
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Um, yeah.
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No, I agree. I like right now. Nets.
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Twitter is like American politics, like there's no there's no uh, no, But I mean, in all seriousness, like, I do think like I and I even understand both extremes, like people that are like this was a total failure.
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I agree, like compared to what was billed and what we thought was gonna happen and all this stuff about okay, D is really recruiting Serge Ibaka and their friends and all this stuff like, Yeah, you can say it's a failure.
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I I would agree with that, but I don't think it's fair to say Okay, well, this team is screwed, like look at it in this defeatist mentality.
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Like again, You look at that whole rotation just by putting Jeff Green, who we can weaken, do the Jeff Green thing.
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He's fine.
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He's a fine player.
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He's not gonna move the needle. It's un.
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There's gonna be weeks where we're all like, Wow, Jeff Green.
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I mean, I think he's finally figured it out, and then there will be weeks where it's like, Are we sure he's better than Rodion school? Looks like I don't I don't know if we're quite there, Um, regardless, like just having him in there.
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Just be being a big human being makes such a difference.
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It makes such a difference.
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It's like, Okay when they TLC at the four who fouls every time anybody post up against him or prints who way don't need to do too much touring prints on this show like I gotta take about him, but we're getting to know Let's do it right now.
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You are now.
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You want me to start off with steamy heartache, right? Alright, alright, Basketball, more viewers.
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I got some 40 I think Taurean Prince, if he stays on the roster right, and that's obviously a giant if right now I think he could turn into one of them or well, like Nets on next year's roster, hear me out.
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Shop shot 42% from three of Kyrie Irving on the floor in the month of November, shot just as well as Joe Harris.
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And you know how I feel about Joe Harris? I didn't even larger volume Caress and Kyrie go down right and obviously his quality of looks lesson.
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And he turns Mawr into a three level score, which I don't see that anymore for the rest of my life, right? And that's where we run into problems.
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Oh, my goodness, Like just took, just took years off my life.
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Watching him try Thio fade away as a post.
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It is just a little too much, but always have a lesson role, and he's going to get, like such high quality looks always seem to Kevin Durant.
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Kyrie, Irving.
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I think he's He's there.
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There's something there. There's also something to be said about.
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This guy played out the four at 6 ft 6 £215 all season for the Nets.
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They had 83 defense.
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He played on all 64 games before the covert locked down, which obviously indefinitely suspended play.
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He could be nice next year if we keep him Well.
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I almost wonder if if there going with the mentality of we're gonna just go for it next year and hope that you know everybody improves to either a, make the team really good or be for future moves, I don't know and this is just me like looking at whatever any of the rumors that have leaked out or haven't looked leaked out.
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It just sort of seems like this is the team.
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There might be a din, witty trade or something like that, but I mean, look like it's a really strong offensive team.
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It's always been that.
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And now you have sham it in there.
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They just have a lot of guys that can kind of Rove and run around.
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And, you know, and you know, whatever.
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You can do things with them.
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You can run them in horns and have them.
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E was gonna do something.
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So I'm looking at film stuff right now.
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That's why I'm looking at film stuff.
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I finally have my next video kind of planned out.
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So s so I've been looking at a bunch of, you know, Spain, pick and roll in and nonsense.
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Yeah, we're in the building, Um, but regardless, like they have a bunch of guys that makes sense and like at the very least, you don't have a situation where it's like you have a Marcus Morris on the roster where it's like this guy wants his shots.
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He wants his little mid range stuff.
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Like, I think Prince next year maybe could make a little more sense.
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I don't know.
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He's gonna be a needle mover, and I worry about the defense, but at least they're selfless guys, for the most part, that you have all these wings.
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I agree.
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Um, you know, I will say this, Uh, I wish they grabbed one more like one more defensive guy, like, even just a bi lo guy.
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And I don't understand that.
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It also, and this is I don't know if these air links at all, but I do kind of wonder if it's like, Does that say anything about where they are with Harden, that they didn't try to grab a bunch of vet men? Guys? Ooh, I like that.
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Um, so e think like, yes and no.
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I think one of the biggest deterrence for the Nets this off season, it's not $5.
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7 million taxpayers.
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Emily could only do so much.
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I mean, even with, you know, promises of Ibaka getting photo shoots with his favorite scarfs on at the HSS training center.
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We couldn't compete with teams like the Lakers or the Clippers who had more money at their disposal and are also contenders.
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And then we kind of held onto the idea of a Barca for so long and justifiably so.
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I think they really thought that they were going to get him way.
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Saw the names.
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Yeah, when we saw the names like John Michael Green leaves the table more heartless, etcetera.
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Who are possible candidates.
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I think we're on Lee making moves around the edges because I honestly believe that you know, the Nets thing, that they're going to land James Harden.
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Maybe not before, um, training camp or even before this December 22nd start.
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But, you know, approaching next season straight deadline.
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Well, I wonder if they view it almost is like we were very close, like we almost got this done.
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So, like, do we really wanna moved in with the for like, you know, maybe, just like don't mess with the package that almost got you there.
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When you know Assumpta, Vly, they're gonna gain more and more leverage over time.
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I do wonder if that's a thing a little bit like Hey, maybe we don't need to flip.
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I know Alec is in our comments talking about Maxie. Clever.
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But maybe you don't equity for Maxie.
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Clever.
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Because what does Maxie Cleber do? If you know a you could trade, I guess you could just keep him.
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But then you're missing dignity from that trade package who could later be rerouted for, you know, whatever.
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Some other asset. A first round pick for Houston.
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So you're like, you know, you look at how Okay, See, handled things over this this transaction, period.
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That's what Houston I think is going to try to do if they're gonna move hard in.
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I don't know if you could do that.
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If you're a either taking back a cleaver, somebody like that, Like, I just think like, I don't know, a player like did what? He's gonna have a lot more value.
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I think for a lot of teams personally, that's just may.
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Well, it's like it's one of those awkward situations where, like, we've maintained versatility are flexibility with what we can dio.
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But at the same time, we need, like, our own little versatility and flexibility in the form of a wing.
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Yep.
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And we can't really do that right now because we're holding on the hearted like, how hard would have it been to just throw.
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I mean, honestly, even throw money at like Avery Bradley like, Yeah, sure, he's a guard.
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But you at least like he Congar down to like the three, like, try to guard like it's just like that stuff.
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I'm just I don't know.
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That's the part of the off season where I just don't quite get it.
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And I don't know why that stuff didn't happen and, like, look like if they if they had been in the sweepstakes for Mo Harkless, I would be like a great by the way, Mo Harkless.
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I don't know how good he's gonna be next year.
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Like he could be terrible.
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They might be ready to move off him.
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And it's gonna be a big like Oh, well, the the Heat should have kept, you know, Jae Crowder and just paid him, I don't know, but at the very least, you'd like to feel like you're in the mix for that guy for her literally sign.
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It's just I don't know.
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That's the part I'm I think that part is where I can confidently say, like, Yeah, that part was a failure, like they very clearly had a need, and you could have gotten somebody.
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Even if they're not outstanding, You don't even have to be good.
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At the very least, they do the job.
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I agree with you.
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Um, let's talk about the guys they did side.
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So let's start with Joe Harris.
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Hey, this is your This is your time is my time.
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Your time.
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This is my time.
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I wanted thio.
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I wanna I wanna see. I wanna prefixed with this.
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I was actually a little concern that Joe Harris could have been involved in assigning trade, maybe to acquire more assets to get to James Harden.
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Because I knew Atlanta wanted Joe Harrison.
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Like what? What what was reported the worst of way.
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So, like, maybe if they could get draft capital and they think they can get James Harden, that's gonna be involved, like, just thank God that my rational thoughts never came about.
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Yep.
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You had to do this, right? I mean, you can You can, and I've seen it.
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You guys can argue the figure or or the term, but it was also reported that Joe Harris was gonna make somewhere north of 18 million before the signing even happened and losing him for nothing, especially given what this team wants to be next year, was just not an option, right? Yep, I just I don't think other people have watched him.
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I know that's the most annoying.
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That you can say is somebody I didn't want to say.
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That covers a team that's so obnoxious, like you don't really know the real Joe Harris, but, like, I don't know, like thes really good.
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This guy was the second option for a full month, like a full month, And he wasn't He wasn't bad.
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He really wasn't.
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It was like this guy.
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I mean, look like I don't know, I just We do it over and over.
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We do the more than just a shooter thing and, like, I didn't want to say it.
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But yeah, he's just he's gonna make a lot of sense for them and best believe other teams saw him and they were like, Okay, we're Atlanta were 29th or whatever in three point percentage, like bring this guy in.
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He's an immediate the culture change her an upgrade, So it's an obvious move.
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I didn't want to be like super over the top of noxious because I went for the resident Joe Harris.
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So I appreciate you like stepping in and doing that whole.
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He's more than a shooter thing because I've seen that to death dude way.
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All have.
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It's great. I I threw up a click today.
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I was like, You know, I don't remember the last time I felt like I had to defend Joe Harris.
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Oh, what, like this guy? You know, all there? I don't know.
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A soul on nets, Twitter or really in the nets fan base, period.
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That doesn't really like, you know, Joe Harris.
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But right now, all this stuff I'm like, Hey, man, I gotta I gotta I gotta come up.
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Too bad e Appreciate you weigh all.
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Appreciate you for that.
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Um, let's go with their other signing before we go into the sham, it browns.
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And then we'll kind of talk a little bit about how they match up in the East.
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Uh, let's let's Yeah, let's do Jeff Green a couple minutes on Jeff Green.
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Do you? What do you think? Do you think he's gonna open things up? Is there anything or is he just like a solid player? and that's we don't need to do much more beyond that.
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It's like it's like a little bit of both, like it's it's it's the same.
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Calm was not as not as intense, but it's similar in The Fact of or ti the tune of 20 prints were like I can fall in love with the idea of Jeff Green, especially in those little brief stints I've seen in the playoffs with Houston.
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Him playing, ah five and then, like you add in.
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You know, Katie, I maybe like we have so many possible in game rotations next season and adding in Jeff Green into that mix with the front court of Kevin Durant.
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I mean, you can play five out.
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You can kind of do whatever you want.
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Will that come about, though, as we know how the Jeff Green experience sometimes plays out, I'm not really sure.
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But all in all, I don't think we need to get like, two in depth about it.
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At the minimum, you got a quality player, and I don't think you could go wrong with that.
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He's another guy.
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It just makes me feel more and more like they're gonna do a lot of a lot of pick and roll.
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I think there gonna be a really pick and roll heavy team e.
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I get it.
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I see all this stuff like nationally.
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They were multi position, all those.
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All this stuff, that's fine.
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I think they're gonna be I think they're gonna be a pick and roll team.
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I think they're gonna be spread pick and roll.
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And they just have all these, like, look it.
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You have, like, Sham it.
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Harris Prince.
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All these guys make sense, like, sort of cutting around off each other and whatever and doing split cuts and stuff like that, Um and then for them, like Jeff Green's another guy again.
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I don't want to extrapolate too much off Houston.
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He was good at in an inverted ball screen situation where you have him taking the ball in a smaller player, screening for him versus the other way around.
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Uh, I don't know.
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It just it was the only thing I could take away from that, because defensively, he's fine.
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He's passable, but he does.
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It just sort of feels like everybody's gonna make sense and pick and roll, which is, like all I want because I want Kyrie and Katie and pick and roll together.
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It's all I want in this world.
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I think D'Antoni is gonna lock.
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Jeff Green is my heartache.
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There you go.
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Oh, look here.
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You kind of has I don't know, like like, kind of defined on Mark.
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It's just gonna is it gonna average five assists per game next year? I mean, probably not, but like I am I going to spam nets Twitter with clips of him in the short role? Probably.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean again, like it just that seems to be where he should be playing.
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Like going forward.
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I I do think there's some things to take out from his little Houston stand.
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It's all it's all in all screen situations.
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Um, let's close out Bruce Brown.
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Sham it.
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Who do you want to talk about next? Who who stimulates your mind? More of those two, man.
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Probably Landry Sham it.
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But like, I just want to quickly touch on Bruce Brown because have you heard anything bad about him from like anyone ever i e I don't know if I'm a lot of talk about Bruce E.
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Oh my Are you kidding? me.
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Where? I don't know if you saw this.
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I'll tell you e don't know.
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Like wearing the dark web.
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You found someone talking trash about Bruce Brown? Everybody.
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I'll tell you later.
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E Um yeah.
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No.
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Bruce Brown. Uh, yeah.
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No, I mean Bruce Brown.
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I think he's gonna be the fan favorite.
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I've already seen somebody called him the the The Wahba in this chat, which I like.
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I like it a lot.
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I was digging around clips today, not even for an article.
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This is how much I need basketball back.
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Just looking at just looking at his steals for fun.
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Look, he's picking steals from Kyrie from Ingram from, like, you know, I'm just like this guy is Hanzee.
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I like him.
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He's the type of player I think we both love.
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No, I'm gonna absolutely love this guy.
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You're right.
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It's just he plays hard.
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I always loved infectious passion type of players.
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He's a solid on ball defender.
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From what I've seen, I think you wrote an article on it for next daily underrated playmaker.
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He kind of touched. Based on that, I was surprised.
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I'm not gonna lie, But a bunch of pistons Twitter kind of came up to bat had said, Yeah, that's like the thing that's that he probably could have locked in the next level, which cool, I think like four point something sister game and a decent turnover are assisted turnover ratio.
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So I'm like, Hey, if that's a thing as well, too Little secondary creator on the second unit.
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I'm all for it, man.
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Yeah, he's nice.
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And I like he's a guy that really read passing lanes.
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Well, which is something that, like, just in terms of I don't know, that that stuff I just think it's gonna make such a difference for them.
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They've just always been so, so low and deflections.
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You need a steals guy.
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They've never had one.
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They've never had that.
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It was like Trey Vion Graham for I don't know, but it like it was It was that level, I think, two years ago, Um uh, just they don't have, like, the guy who gets charges.
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I guess Dudley was that for them two years ago this year.
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I don't even know.
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I didn't even look up that stuff cause I was like, I just don't think they don't know if anybody is even worth looking at.
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Eso they need that guy.
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They've never I don't know if they've really ever had a Nawab, I guess was that but even he was a little He's a little different.
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This guy, Bruce Brown.
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Just a little more point of attack.
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Um, he's got better all, like, offensive attributes as well.
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Yeah, well, he's zippy.
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You give him a you give him a little bit of space and he's gonna get to the cup E.
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Just remember that again.
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This is from like from one Nets game last year, So that could be.
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That's what my scouting is.
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I'm so far, um, because I was shaming and what kind of talk about how they match against the rest of the conference Sham.
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It's interesting.
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I'm like, Really? And I'm not just saying this because he's on the Nets or anything, because I don't e.
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I think most people know I don't have much emotional stake in the game with the Nets.
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Um, I really liked him last year, and I thought he was really misused.
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I think he's got a little bit of extra playmaking chops that I want to see more of on die.
00:21:01
By all accounts, it seems like that stuff may happen in Steve Nash's offense.
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Um, I don't know.
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I I want curious to know what your evaluation is of him.
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It's kind of similar one because, like, I'm not gonna lie to you.
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I haven't watched too much lander Salmon, and I know if he has had playoff struggles, but he's also was a sop****re this year, I believe he's still young.
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Still figuring it out.
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That's not really concerned for me.
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Um, adding in another I mean career 40% shooter, an elite catch and shoot got I mean, like I said of the endgame rotations.
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I mean, it could just be by committee and national D'Antoni.
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And then they have so many different options like you could go potentially like a Kyrie, Osama Joe, Katie, Jeff Green and go five out and just I mean, that's going to be so much from the watch.
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So just having another guy like him down the rotation like I say, career 40% shooter, the defensive end.
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He plays with passion and he tries his best, kind of like Joe Harris does.
00:22:00
But like at some point, you're just not that athletic were being a little loose with three and D on 20.
00:22:07
So it's like when we brought in Shannon.
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I'm like, Okay, hold on like he's just slow down.
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Let my man live a little bit like he's ball screens.
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They're gonna be a little bit of an issue, like there's gonna be things that are gonna not be awesome with him.
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He's a smart player. He's in the right places.
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E no.
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I mean that that part z the reactions that she might have been funny so far.
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I know.
00:22:36
All right, let's get into this.
00:22:37
This how they stack up? Sure.
00:22:40
Where do you see them finishing in the East? You could do regular season and then do you see them as a finals team? It's again like it's hard to predict the Nets.
00:22:51
I mean, like, you know this better than anyone is.
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Well, one, they operate out of left field.
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I mean, the harden trade might not happen, but all Senate boom like Bradley bills of Brooklyn net in February with that really surprised anybody e don't know, considering like how, Like I said, I don't like field they operate, so I'm gonna say James Harden isn't on the team just for this? Uh, this for the sake.
00:23:13
72 game season.
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I see.
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Like a what? School? 45 27.
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Now what? That Lance, during the East, I'm not really sure my prediction for this season was gonna be like a three or four seats, but one of those really dangerous three or four seeds that really step it up another level in the playoffs as far as the Eastern Conference playoff goes, I mean, man, I see them at least being the Eastern Conference finals.
00:23:38
I really do see them coming out of the East.
00:23:40
I'm not just saying that as a Nets blogger, Um, especially if they added a defensive wing.
00:23:45
They added, like a solid defensive wing, like if they were to go out like I'm all there, you guys stretched baking and Jeff Green so well, I'll lay that to rest for now, But I see a finals appearance in their destiny this next coming season.
00:24:04
Just because the East, it's like there's so many question marks for me.
00:24:07
Still, I think a lot of the team's got worse.
00:24:10
Honestly, like the Raptors, they're the obvious ones.
00:24:12
You could point to the Pacers.
00:24:14
I don't know.
00:24:15
I mean, I don't even know I'm bringing up the Pacers.
00:24:16
I don't know.
00:24:17
That was the first name I thought of.
00:24:18
Uh, I'm like, Okay, we'll just move on for that s o the Raptors got worth the Celtics.
00:24:27
I'm of the mind that the Celtics first out, they already have a Kimba injury, which is, like, that team just cannot stay healthy.
00:24:33
Anybody that that signs there for Max deal is just not gonna be healthy II, which sucks because I want them to be healthy.
00:24:39
Even if they did, though, did their bench get any better? Like, I actually think Brad Wanamaker might be better, uh, than Jeff Teague.
00:24:48
I've been kind of going back and forth, but Jeff Teague is not good anymore on bike Thompson.
00:24:56
Okay, Like, I think they're gonna miss Hayward a little bit just because the plane good the plane people looked at the contract.
00:25:04
Yeah, they needed that.
00:25:05
He was He was actually relatively good for Boston last year.
00:25:08
That was a huge loss. Yep.
00:25:10
I agree.
00:25:11
And like so they're in a tricky spot. The heat.
00:25:13
Who knows? I don't know how much Z That's the wild card for me right now.
00:25:16
But there there were kind of like, I mean, we're not going to see it with the Nuggets, But they're like, Are they a bubble overachiever? Are they that good? I don't know.
00:25:26
Yeah, we're really about to find out.
00:25:29
Kind of like what they are and not make.
00:25:31
Might make heat fence, man.
00:25:33
Like you guys just, you know, representing the Eastern Conference in the finals.
00:25:36
And, yeah, it was a great Oh, I might have lost him.
00:25:51
All right, we'll see if we can get him back.
00:25:56
I'm not a huge believer in them is.
00:25:57
Well, um, I lost you for a second.
00:26:01
Do you mind repeating that? Okay.
00:26:03
No noise.
00:26:04
Um, sorry.
00:26:05
That's my That's my your good action up here in Canada.
00:26:08
It's not that great in my igloo.
00:26:10
Um, no, I think like with the Sixers, for instance, I'm really not really quite sure what to make of them how their chemistry is going into playing out this season, I think getting out off Al Horford del Maury like Okay, Yeah, I forgot Teasdale Maury.
00:26:25
Now he's in the Atlantic Division.
00:26:26
That's gonna be a pain in our side, moving forward.
00:26:29
But I still don't think that they necessarily have what it takes in the firepower to get past the Nets as well.
00:26:36
So I mean, there's parody right now, man, and it's it's fun.
00:26:40
And it's also a little scary.
00:26:42
Yeah, you know.
00:26:43
So I think the three for me right now, I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble for snubbing the Celtics.
00:26:49
I want to say it's the Bucks and the Sixers.
00:26:51
I like what the Sixers did a lot just by like bringing in.
00:26:54
I don't even character talent got worse, which I don't think it did.
00:26:57
But if you want to say that, sure, Um, but just God, that roster makes so much more sense.
00:27:02
And like if you could just get those if you get Embiid and Simmons healthy and on the same page with shooters, I don't know like that's kind of a bad matchup for the Nets and a lot of ways likely agree with that.
00:27:15
I don't know.
00:27:17
I would not want to do any like I really wouldn't want anything to do with them.
00:27:20
They weirdly kind of remind me of the Lakers to a degree just because they're so long and big like they have.
00:27:26
But they have table on the bench who, like put Joe Harrison jail like honest, honest to God jail.
00:27:31
I was like, What is going on there? Pretty good.
00:27:36
So they're kind of the team I'm looking at, like I think, if it would be so fun, by the way, if we had a Sixers Nets, I want them can't conference finals.
00:27:44
Me, too. I want a conference finals.
00:27:46
I e think they could beat the Bucks.
00:27:48
I do Get out here Bucks e.
00:27:52
Did you do like the Bucks off season? I thought they honestly did a decent job of maneuvering around that Bogdanovich mess, and that was just one giant mess.
00:28:02
I mean, the adulatory Craig had it in, I think was D.
00:28:05
J.
00:28:06
Augustine as well.
00:28:07
I want to say like That's a decent acquisition.
00:28:09
I drew Holiday great defender, but like he was closing for them down the stretch it do it.
00:28:15
It's It's Middleton Yanis uh, by committee Brook Lopez.
00:28:20
Maybe I don't know his Brook Lopez gonna be as good as he was last year is a year older.
00:28:25
I know exactly.
00:28:26
I don't know what I don't know what to think with them, but it's it's not.
00:28:29
I'm not over the moon about it.
00:28:30
Honestly, No, I'm not exactly either.
00:28:34
And like these last two postseasons have kind of shown.
00:28:36
But, hey, you can kind of scheme for them a certain way, really made your life miserable.
00:28:42
I agree.
00:28:43
And like, I don't know, they're just I don't like the coaching situation and, like they have like Bobby Portis there and just it's a weird it kind of.
00:28:52
It feels very like late first time around for for LeBron in Cleveland, where they, like, make all these moves and you're like, Oh, that's kind of an interesting team And then it just they're done early and he's gone.
00:29:04
And I, By the way, I don't know if he's gonna leave.
00:29:07
It just sort of feels like that, um, sort of a vibe.
00:29:10
I'm not terribly scared of them because I don't I'm not really I don't know.
00:29:16
Oh, we're gonna You know, those those were gonna come back and haunt us.
00:29:19
We'll find out.
00:29:20
But as of right now, I'm not overly terrified about him.
00:29:24
Of the Lakers, we have to ask.
00:29:26
She terrifies me mad.
00:29:29
A who? Like what? Okay, so say, like, hypothetically, we get a nest Lakers final, which is again, something I want.
00:29:36
I don't want the Clippers. I want the Lakers.
00:29:39
Are they gonna run Marc Gasol 80 as a front card? Are they going to go 80 treasures like, How do you think they're gonna line up against us? I think you play big.
00:29:48
I think you play big.
00:29:50
And because it's gonna be the battle of the Nets trying to make them play small so they could go. Jeff Green.
00:29:56
I hope Jeff Green isn't playing that much in the final.
00:29:59
Eso whoever.
00:30:02
Maybe they get that center that, like four or five center on a buyout market or something like that.
00:30:06
Let's just say Jeff Green placeholder, Maybe Jeff Green.
00:30:10
So you have that or even just run Katie at the five.
00:30:12
I wouldn't lean into it that much, but maybe you do that.
00:30:15
Um, So you have whatever you have.
00:30:17
There's the net small ball lineup.
00:30:19
They're trying to make the Lakers put a D at the five.
00:30:22
I know that sounds weird because that's like where they're at.
00:30:26
I know but they have no one to.
00:30:29
They have no way of dealing with the Marc Gasol, Anthony Davis, LeBron, whatever. KCP.
00:30:36
Who's the last guy gonna be Caruso? I don't know Caruso.
00:30:40
Probably the two or was Matthew's.
00:30:42
Even Who are they? Neither One of George Allen's improving? Still, not maybe at the level that you want him to be defending Gasela the Ark You definitely don't want, I don't know.
00:30:54
I don't know if you definitely don't want Jordan there e against Marcus.
00:30:59
So I think that's or if they're going, if they're to go huge, See, I'm kind of the opposite.
00:31:04
I kind of Well, no, wait, I don't know, but they don't want it because they have to stretch options like they they have Davis, obviously.
00:31:11
And then they have Gasol.
00:31:13
Um, I don't know.
00:31:14
I don't I don't love that.
00:31:16
I just think it's such a bad matchup for the Nets right now in Ibaka.
00:31:20
I know, I know.
00:31:22
That's why I wanted him so bad.
00:31:23
And he's not even that good on the perimeter.
00:31:25
But, like it's just you, at least I don't know.
00:31:28
You, at least can tell yourself that he's been around the perimeter.
00:31:31
It's just it's sad.
00:31:32
You know what my my loan my loan hope for right now as it is as constructed right as constructed.
00:31:38
This can definitely change man.
00:31:41
The two man game of 80 and LeBron like you're really not going to stop it like you see it unnecessary.
00:31:46
We need an 80 stop or maybe even for those irrational.
00:31:49
If we need a LeBron stopper, they don't exist.
00:31:52
Um, it's as much the responsibility as the players and personal on the floor as it is the coaching staff to try to scheme Thio deflect their effectiveness because you can really only hope to contain them.
00:32:04
You're not gonna outright stop him.
00:32:06
But like, if kcp Crusoe, um even Kuzma or where's Matthews? If they get really cold from three because we've seen like in this final is the Lakers can offensively stagnate.
00:32:18
And I don't think that's gonna be our issue on the other end of the floor to Yeah, so it's gonna be a really weird Siri's, but it's like the Nets can get ridiculously hot.
00:32:28
I think they have to play all shooters, right? They kind of have Oh, yeah.
00:32:45
Can you just be the team.
00:32:46
That's like we're gonna be the Rockets.
00:32:48
But with better leadership, like can we just kind of play the math game? I almost wonder if that's what you're doing because your roster is constructed that way.
00:32:55
You don't have the big Wings, but you at least have the shooters there.
00:33:00
I don't know.
00:33:01
That's the only thing I could think of that, and I would actually would agree with that, too.
00:33:05
But like the man, the thing about the Lakers is they just They rotate so hard defensively, they really make up lost ground.
00:33:13
Way talked.
00:33:14
We message about this A lot.
00:33:15
KCP was so good against it was Duncan Robinson.
00:33:18
It waas on.
00:33:20
That's gonna be probably like that Joe Harris matchup because we know he likes.
00:33:24
He does not like to shoot.
00:33:25
Contested.
00:33:26
Looks like he's a smart player, almost to a detriment like you're like, Okay, I have a clip on my computer where it's like bad shot from Joe Harris exclamation point exclamation explanation point, Because I'm so excited that there's a look that was semi contested like no e.
00:33:41
I see it all the time in game or like Joe Harris will have enough room that maybe pop it, but it's off the dribble.
00:33:46
Or maybe he has toe kind of contort mid air, and he'll just bring the ball back down and look for a clean look elsewhere.
00:33:53
It's like, Man.
00:33:54
And in the finals, you may have to just pop that.
00:33:56
And that could be where Landry Chamakh comes in and really, really elevates our office.
00:34:01
He will shoot those.
00:34:02
Yeah, he's got a little wiggle.
00:34:03
I'm not going to say he's like this crazy pull a player, but he at least we'll put the ball on the floor and be like I actually wrote about this.
00:34:10
I think on the night that he I guess that it was made official. So I get drafted.
00:34:15
Um, he does little things like he'll wait for a big man to set a ball screen He could like.
00:34:21
He can pull up off the three and and take advantage of a Bigas.
00:34:25
You know, sagging in and playing drop like that stuff's pretty essential, and I just don't think they had a guard like that last year at all. I e.
00:34:33
I couldn't tell you, I guess, didn't witty that your non chi regards.
00:34:36
I guess did what he would do that.
00:34:38
But he's much better shooter than didn't what he is.
00:34:40
No, no, I I agree there, too.
00:34:42
So that's a nice wrinkle.
00:34:43
Like little things like that.
00:34:44
Like, yeah, we could sit here and say, Oh, the Nets offense can't really improve but like you actually can.
00:34:49
I think they have improved it quite a bit.
00:34:51
But how do you think they match up against the Clippers? Better, but it's still not the matchup I want.
00:34:59
Like I I just want like a Nets Lakers.
00:35:02
I mean, just from like a product standpoint, Katie LeBron that fantastic, right? But against the Clippers, the Clippers, it's some nice things.
00:35:11
Obviously, they got Serge Ibaka, which we didn't.
00:35:13
Luke Kennard, I thought, was a really nice edition.
00:35:15
He's good in the pick and roll.
00:35:16
No one likes it.
00:35:17
Why? I haven't seen anybody excited because I I think I think most people are scared about the defense about like men.
00:35:23
They have it.
00:35:24
I think health, too, but like maybe that, too.
00:35:27
But it's like man, they get an additional creator and he is.
00:35:30
He is.
00:35:31
He is fluid, like his game is nice to watch offensively.
00:35:34
So I thought that was another great edition.
00:35:36
You subtract Montrezl Harrell, which hey, like e.
00:35:41
I mean, what we saw in the playoffs is that really a bad thing? Yeah.
00:35:44
No, I totally agree.
00:35:45
I totally agree.
00:35:46
And, like, look at their center rotation Now.
00:35:49
Now the rotation is eyes.
00:35:51
Why am I forgetting his name? I mentioned him all the time.
00:35:53
Zoo boche, uh, up option.
00:36:10
Well, the Clippers now have that, and you have to really fun players that do both of those things.
00:36:15
So it's they're in a nice spot.
00:36:19
It's It's a more balanced roster can.
00:36:21
Art is kind of like if you put Lou Williams and Sham it in a blender on you made them into one player.
00:36:30
That's kind of what Con artist.
00:36:31
If he's healthy, he's really good.
00:36:33
He's good in the pick and roll.
00:36:34
Um, he could shoot the hell out of the ball.
00:36:38
I think there are a lot better and just getting rid of personalities to helps.
00:36:43
I think another underrated aspect in all of this is getting off of.
00:36:47
I don't think he's a bad coach, but I thought reference just wasn't working in L. A and adding in Thailand.
00:36:51
Like, if Ty Lue is what a lot of these bloggers and ****ysts say he is Oh, man, they're gonna be a problem.
00:36:59
We're gonna find out who we were talking.
00:37:02
I've said of a lot of very nice things about Tyler, like retroactively.
00:37:06
And, uh, well, we're gonna learn if those were those were sound sound reason it's gonna be somebody fun, little like in season.
00:37:15
There it is, like that was going into the playoffs.
00:37:17
Yeah, which is cool because it was an off season where it was not a good draft, really.
00:37:23
But even the draft kind of shook out fun, and then the freeze class wasn't great either.
00:37:27
But like you have a lot of it's certain teams have risen in ways I didn't expect them to, um and and so you have, like the sons and I don't know, like some of the other teams in the West.
00:37:38
I think Portland got a lot better.
00:37:40
Portland is a great example.
00:37:41
Even Golden State's kind of funky, which is not how what we wanted obviously wanted them to be a title competitors, er but it's fun.
00:37:49
It was a good offseason.
00:37:51
Um all right.
00:37:52
What's the next closing rotation then? I got a fun question for you.
00:37:56
So do you go with talent or do you go with fit? I think that's gonna be the question.
00:38:01
Can do a couple of quick.
00:38:02
We can answer this in a couple of ways.
00:38:04
We could say because there is a couple of ways answer by all means do the talent.
00:38:09
One.
00:38:10
If you're going talent, he's gonna put the best players on the floor, I think.
00:38:13
And this is also saying that they're not gonna get traded.
00:38:16
Who knows? Right? Carried in, Woody.
00:38:19
Honestly, you might even be able to do like a Kyrie.
00:38:21
Didn't really care.
00:38:22
Is Joe Katie at the five? If Nash really wants to go position list, I agree.
00:38:27
Like like that's just the most talent on the floor.
00:38:30
And like I said, maybe the Nets best defense is more offense.
00:38:33
And that's exactly what that is.
00:38:35
Yeah, and I think God, I wish they I guess you would have the issue is, is like I worry a little bit on the other side, like, most likely you're probably gonna be going.
00:38:47
I said I So So it's like, OK, Well, it's not like these guys need to be like head on a swivel working together, but like if they get cooked, it's like, Okay, Katie's Katie's a good rim protector, but he's like, You're only said like Onley source of back line protection.
00:39:02
So you're right, you're playing the Lakers and it's like, Oh, that's where I have problems but catch But over the bucks, even like the Bucks could just go to the bread and butter.
00:39:15
Middleton Yanis pick and roll.
00:39:17
And I don't know what the Nets do against that, but at the very least, like that's a really talented lineup.
00:39:23
The cool thing about it is, yeah, you look at on paper, you go.
00:39:26
Okay, well, you know it za bunch of guys that need the ball in their hands. Well, not really.
00:39:30
Because actually, like the weakest shooter in that group is Carris and, like Carris is at the very least, like passable from catch and shoot situations.
00:39:39
I've written a lot about it, probably a little too much about how not awesome he is in catch and shoot situations, but he's still like I would trust him toe.
00:39:46
If he doesn't doesn't make the shot.
00:39:48
He's gonna make the right play and get into the right player.
00:39:51
Yeah, I also think like there's like, almost a misconception with care.
00:39:55
So yeah, that we know that the best version of care is ultimately has the ball in his hands on the high usage right? But like he's, he's malleable.
00:40:01
He's come off the bench, is a six man, he's willing to adapt more roles, and I think he's gonna be able to do that with, like, Katie and Kyrie.
00:40:09
He's gonna understand that you need to take a back seat and really try to make this work, and I think that's also but they've been working, working on basically all offseason.
00:40:16
I mean, it's like everywhere we see Kyrie or Katie, we also see Kerry's Yeah, yep, I do wonder if that's a big point for them with this hardened stuff.
00:40:24
I'm not saying he wasn't included because I think he obviously you had to do that.
00:40:28
But I just wonder like they just seem to value him so so much internally that when it comes to like, oh, are we gonna make you know our first round pick in 2025 or 2026 unprotected or we're gonna make that a pick swap.
00:40:45
I wonder if caress was the sticking point? Well, no, we're actually already giving you Caris. Levert.
00:40:49
Why are we giving you an unprotected pick in 2026? I don't know.
00:40:52
That's the only I could think of.
00:40:53
Um, it's hard to gauge how much this organization, I mean, all ultimately way know that they love him.
00:41:02
Yeah, about it's like it's hard to gauge how willing they are to put him into, like, a trade back.
00:41:09
It's just like you said.
00:41:11
Yeah, e I agree.
00:41:13
I mean, like, he's been the sticking point.
00:41:16
I, uh, the holiday thing.
00:41:19
I think he was the sticking point in that and, you know, and I that's like, like, sort of just a little bit that I've heard about that.
00:41:26
That seems to be what the sticking point was.
00:41:29
So yeah, I don't know.
00:41:31
And it's it's interesting because I don't We differ on this.
00:41:35
I think quite a bit.
00:41:36
I'm not of the mind.
00:41:38
I'm not saying he's gonna be a bad third star, but I don't know if it's the most natural fit.
00:41:42
You feel a lot better about it.
00:41:44
If you're right when you say it's not the most natural fit because it's I'd be lying to say if if it waas on, I'm not going to come out and say like, Oh, well, you know what He bridges the two arrows he deserves Toe be on this, you know, Contender next season.
00:41:59
Ultimately, you make the best basketball decision.
00:42:01
That's what Sharon Marks is going to do.
00:42:03
He's proven to be, if you want to call it a ruthless or whatever in the past, and he will do that again, put caress meant like one.
00:42:10
The relationship with Katie and Kyrie is so glaring to me to I think you can honestly make it work, even if he's not a great catch and shoot threat.
00:42:20
Um, you can stay your minutes accordingly.
00:42:23
You always have, like a pretty **** good ball handler and creator on the floor at all times.
00:42:29
I mean, there's value in that, and we saw that there's value in that in the playoffs, you know what I want to see is him using cutting situations more e.
00:42:38
I really, really want him uses a cutter more.
00:42:40
I think he barely qualified on synergy This is the point where we've hit the point in the project.
00:42:45
E talking dirty ****ytic talk.
00:42:48
Let's go.
00:42:49
Synergy stats, podcast.
00:42:50
Uh, nobody, like, barely qualified.
00:42:53
And like I, you know, even looking through my clips and this is for the video I'm doing.
00:42:59
So I'm not just looking at their super cutting clips.
00:43:02
Although I already mentioned I was looking at Bruce Brown steals.
00:43:04
So I'm not helping myself.
00:43:06
Yeah, I'm a loser.
00:43:09
I think the whole world knows that.
00:43:11
No, I mean, he just like it's something they very, very rarely used him as.
00:43:16
Like, I think he's a really smart player, like he understands the angles and the how the floor spacing works.
00:43:23
We saw that in the bubble dealing it.
00:43:26
He knows exactly where guys, we're going, what's open in the corner? What happens when Oh, I'm playing with TLC and he likes to go back to her behind the defense.
00:43:33
When he gets run off the line, he knows all that stuff.
00:43:35
So why couldn't he be that guy in the corner back cutting? He's so explosive and athletic.
00:43:40
He's so crafty, too.
00:43:42
I actually think that makes it really interesting as a cutter we could see it, though.
00:43:47
That's the thing, right? Like he could turn into that player and then that just makes the Nets all the more dynamic.
00:43:54
It's It's like the ideal version of them is so intriguing to me, and I think I'm starting to settle into that.
00:44:01
It's just like I want to see Durant set ball screens because I think that's super interesting.
00:44:07
I want to see Caris Levert as a cutter.
00:44:09
Now these air not things like if these air your stars.
00:44:12
Yeah, you're not really, like, prototypical.
00:44:15
You're not gonna see that from them that much.
00:44:17
But that's kind of what makes I think great teams great.
00:44:20
Is that the star players? Yeah, they are willing to be, You know, they're willing to do role player things.
00:44:25
It's just it's it's striking.
00:44:27
Like you look at Durant and okay, See, he just he would kind of stand to the side when Russ was doing his thing.
00:44:33
It's like, you know, looking back and you're like, Man, I wish you were like getting involved with Westbrook.
00:44:37
That'd be really interesting if you were mixed in like that.
00:44:39
Um and and the same thing goes for now, I'm like, I want to see this.
00:44:43
I want to see these guys working together because I think there is a way to do it.
00:44:48
No, I did Thio for Kyrie and Katie is just because you mentioned the whole rust Katie thing and I agree.
00:44:53
I think they're gonna be running a lot of pick and roll action of those who just attacking mismatches just humanly Yes.
00:44:59
Yep, And like getting plays in the post.
00:45:02
So, like, you know, Katie slips and he gets into the post and all the sudden he's matched up against, we'll pick up, we'll pick up.
00:45:09
Let's let's say Fred VanVleet lead deserve this.
00:45:13
Like he's got 11 ft of advantage on VanVleet.
00:45:20
So, like, that's the stuff I want to see.
00:45:22
And it's like sitting right there like people are like, Oh, I wonder if he's gonna do motion offense or seven seconds realize I'm like, Honestly, it seems really easy.
00:45:30
The hard part is defense, and Nash seems to get that because that's all he brings up his defense.
00:45:34
The offense is it's all there like we know what they're gonna dio, so it'll be it'll be a mix of what they've been doing in the past? Um, let's talk about the best fit rotation woman, best fit rotation.
00:45:48
So I feel like I just have to insert DeAndre Jordan at the five.
00:45:52
So I feel like I think that's the right assessment.
00:45:55
Yeah.
00:45:56
For the most part, I wanna I feel like I kind of need Teoh.
00:46:01
You know what? He was playing better than I'm not gonna get on that, though.
00:46:04
No, let's talk.
00:46:05
Let's talk it up. Let's talk of DeAndre Jordan.
00:46:07
Let's dio Okay, you know what? They're gonna suck defensively, so you he gives you a little more on offense.
00:46:14
It's got a little dribble handoff game Better, Better playmaker had a couple of nights bombs, passes toe cutting men.
00:46:21
Who cares next year if we're gonna tie together, opens up the offense a bit.
00:46:26
You run the high action picking wrong with him, I guess.
00:46:29
I mean, it's you know what he's only going to get, like 67 field goal attempts per game, and they're probably all gonna be wide open because teams were trying to compensate for open, you know, three point shooters or Katie and Kyrie.
00:46:42
And then he's just gigantic and downloading a dunker spot and getting easy buckets.
00:46:46
So maybe I could be talked into that.
00:46:48
You know, Katie probably gonna be here for, um I don't think he's gonna be down three to start. I see.
00:46:57
I see.
00:46:58
And again, like, if he's in that, I'm just gonna go again once again.
00:47:00
Like as is, I think National puts men probably Joe at the three Kyrie Kyrie at the one carries other two years. I agree.
00:47:10
I agree.
00:47:11
I think that I think that's the starting five.
00:47:13
And I think your bench what do you think the bench is? Actually, the bench is more interesting to me, man.
00:47:21
Obviously.
00:47:22
Then what is 36 men? Let's let's include Genuity for now.
00:47:24
I'm not working under the assumption anything is gonna get done right now.
00:47:27
Okay, Chatham, It's probably your seventh man.
00:47:30
He's gonna be getting at least 18 to 21 minutes a game.
00:47:33
Uh, Bruce Brown needs his minutes.
00:47:35
We need an on ball defender.
00:47:37
I mean, Bruce Brown could honestly, he could potentially close games, too, if he's just disrupting things on the other end of the floor like that's another possibility.
00:47:44
Um, TLC.
00:47:46
I think he's played himself into minutes, at least in the early part of the season.
00:47:49
I think the bubble play has got him those minutes.
00:47:52
It might just be spotting.
00:47:54
Is there not not Be significant, but they're going to be there for him Is well, Jared Allen.
00:47:59
Probably gonna play almost like identical minutes.
00:48:03
I would think as 300 Jordan that this is what they're rocking with.
00:48:06
Kinda.
00:48:07
They did that for most part of the last season anyway, So I I c d j painting like 20 to 24 Joe Allen 21 22 in that ballpark.
00:48:15
Obviously, if t j gets a foul trouble, we have another big That kind of does a lot of the same things.
00:48:21
Um uh Tyler John Situation.
00:48:25
I don't know how it's gonna play out, and that's like, didn't woody insurance, But I think he's gonna get his minutes as well, too.
00:48:30
I like what he's shown in the bubble.
00:48:32
He's just smooth fluid.
00:48:33
I always like lefties.
00:48:34
Men like lefties always will have a sweet spot for them outside of that man.
00:48:40
It's wherever you want to implement.
00:48:43
There's a guy passed first point guard.
00:48:46
No Geos, no.
00:48:47
I think I could agree with Tyler Johnson over.
00:48:49
Chose, I would agree with.
00:48:50
I can't I can't push back on that justice where I'm going.
00:48:54
You don't even mention Jeff Green.
00:48:56
Oh, my goodness.
00:48:59
He'll get his minutes.
00:49:00
He'll get his minutes.
00:49:01
Um, it's just It's just a different look.
00:49:04
Something new? I don't know.
00:49:06
You mentioned tp No.
00:49:08
You played Bruce.
00:49:09
You went small lineup, You said Oh, really? Yeah, man, I've watched too much short marks basketball.
00:49:14
This is why meeting went small.
00:49:16
Just give me all the cards. Zero.
00:49:18
Could Bruce Brown play the four e Think you could do it? Honestly, it's like like first round.
00:49:28
He had, like, Mitch Creek who e like this.
00:49:34
Lunges Simon looking inch taller. Thio.
00:49:38
Yeah.
00:49:40
No, I I, uh I it's They almost have too many kinds.
00:49:47
E I was thinking of my man.
00:49:49
I'm like, I even know where to go with this anymore After I got, like, two Mad number eight.
00:49:53
Yeah, Like how deep of a rotation to go in the regular season.
00:49:56
You have, like, 10 players, maybe 11 like this cruise play.
00:50:01
No, no, no, no, no.
00:50:05
I have seen enough.
00:50:06
I have seen enough after the bubble.
00:50:09
I e I've seen enough, but no, like so then you have, like, Jeff Green and prints on the fringes.
00:50:18
Yeah, those guys, I think, should play.
00:50:20
I actually would put TLC and over over.
00:50:22
Prince, this is such a sad way.
00:50:25
Might need to wrap this up.
00:50:26
This is what I'm getting into my 50 minutes in.
00:50:28
This is where we going now.
00:50:30
Just like, Hey, hold on.
00:50:32
Who has more upside TLC? Your Taurean prince.
00:50:35
This is a It is a different, uh, another call.
00:50:39
All right, I'm gonna hit you with this.
00:50:42
What was your favorite? I would have told you this ahead of time, but I just know you're gonna have something off the top of your head because you are a numbers maniac.
00:50:50
What was your favorite stat of last year? Jesus, Matthew.
00:50:57
You know what? You know what? I just use it in article, and it's only when I was coming to mind.
00:51:01
Right now.
00:51:02
Joe Harris, 52.
00:51:03
3% on wide open looks, and they're gonna be wide open all season this year.
00:51:08
Mm. Yeah.
00:51:09
That number is astounding.
00:51:11
Yeah, he could shoot like 48% from three or some ridiculous man, they're gonna be there.
00:51:17
It's pretty nuts that seeing that number, I look up Shan.
00:51:22
It's wide open numbers.
00:51:23
I think they were in the not good this year.
00:51:27
That is good this year.
00:51:28
And I was like, That's pretty good And I was like, What's your Harris? And I was like, All right, I need to, like, shut down my computer or something like that, Yeah, but that's like you said, You you've mentioned this to me like multiple times.
00:51:40
You really feel like the Clippers misuse land Osama.
00:51:42
If you look at his stats from like your one year to you might be onto something.
00:51:46
So yeah, I just They put the ball in his hands a lot.
00:51:50
It was weird toe watch, like in the bubble.
00:51:52
I was just like, Why is this guy like I don't mind it? I It's cool if he could dribble and do things, but it's like, Why am I seeing more of that than him coming off? You know, coming off a stagger screen or or him cutting through the middle, coming off like you know, whatever, like you're coming off a pin down down low like I want more of that.
00:52:09
Running up some sloppy, like, let's do that.
00:52:12
Like I don't know why you're not doing that.
00:52:13
There we go.
00:52:14
I'm almost dropped every single annoying stagger poppy pin down porn.
00:52:19
I've done everything on this.
00:52:21
What else gonna experience that I mentioned? I mentioned pistol or something like that.
00:52:27
Bringing a wrapped er Yeah.
00:52:29
Oh, All right.
00:52:33
Well, that was a pretty good answer.
00:52:35
I like the Joe Harris one.
00:52:36
I wanna let you plug away anything you have coming out.
00:52:38
Anything you're working on.
00:52:39
Um, I actually got an article.
00:52:41
I've been talking to some business guys about Bruce Brown.
00:52:43
So I'm going to do a round tape.
00:52:45
Of what? That they'll be out for nets daily.
00:52:47
You could find me on Twitter and underscored Jensen, J and S E N 95.
00:52:53
And yeah, that's all I got for you, man. It's always fun.
00:52:56
Thank you. Having me appreciate it, we'll do this soon.
00:52:58
Yes, sir.

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