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Connor, I'm Jack, man.
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We got three guest on tonight.
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Yes, sir.
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From the East West football podcast.
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And I think we're gonna have a good time with them.
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But before we get into it, we've got to talk about our SportsCastr story of the night.
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And that is Cam Newton basically completely avoiding the question today.
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When asked will he resign with the Patriots next season? Basically saying I'm just thinking about Arizona.
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Would you expect any different oven? Answer.
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Would you really expect Cam Newton at this point to really discuss what he thinks he's gonna do next season? No, no, definitely not.
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I mean, that's definitely the right answer to just come out and say We're on to Arizona.
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Usually you don't get much out of not even just quarterbacks, just players in general who are going to sign next season.
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So I don't know if he knows, and he's just not going to say anything or he might not have even really disgusted with Belichick to this point.
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I really don't know.
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Yeah, I I doubt that they've had any conversation.
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Let's see how this season goes.
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I wanna ask you because I saw an interesting little, uh, tip it on Twitter today.
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Somebody put it out and I kind of agreed with them.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Patriots draft a quarterback and keep Cam Newton.
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Would that be, uh, would that be a decent move for them? What do you think? Honestly, I haven't really even thought about that.
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I've always thought it would be one way or the other, But now that you say that, that would probably be a pretty good option.
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Would you want it all? My ideal scenario is after San Francisco cuts Jimmy G.
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You signed Jimmy G resigned Cam Newton and you draft a quarterback.
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You let Newton and Jimmy Garoppolo fight out about who's gonna be the starter, and you have the rookie develop behind him.
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I'm not arrogant.
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E am that arrogant of a Patriots fan that I think Bill Belichick could pull that off and I mean, line up and stop me.
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Stop me from being, you know, it's that whole piece, right? Like, give me a reason not to be arrogant, right? Well, this season's kind of reason not today.
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I was gonna say this season's kind of giving us that reason for the first time in 20 years.
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But it's all good. It's not over.
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It's not over.
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So nobody's surprised Cam Newton hasn't given an answer.
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And with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, the guest of the hour, The ones who put us to shame.
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Connor, we should just bring them up and put ourselves in the waiting room and let them talk because they're a lot better than we are getting.
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SportsCastr made a mistake signing us to instead of these three.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I want to introduce you to Fidel, Jerry and Kendall, my boys over at the East West football podcast.
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These guys are the bomb.
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I did their show a little while ago.
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You know what? We got about 2025 minutes left.
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Let's have some fun, gentlemen.
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Welcome to the show.
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How you doing today? Welcome.
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Welcome.
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Wow, What a way like to put you guys on the spot right away to try to one up us because we're nervous having you on your all the big shots.
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You're hanging out with Hugh Jackson and just, you know, your grilling grilling Rob Parker, which is That's a guy I'd love to get my hands on.
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So good for you guys.
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Good for you guys.
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All right, I want to throw it.
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This question right off the hop will throw it out to the whole panel.
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Um, this isn't school.
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You don't put your hand up.
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Let's have a free for all Josh Allen.
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Is he the best quarterback in the A F C East? Right now? Yes.
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Yes, he is.
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Yeah, you're You're muted, buddy.
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Look, I'm gonna go inside. There we go.
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I'm gonna go ahead, step and I'm gonna go ahead and say yes.
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I mean, look to it.
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Got benched.
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I don't know what happens to camp.
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I mean, when you stop and you look at it, I mean, the jets.
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I mean, they got Flaco.
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I mean, I thought I thought he kind of was already out of the league, but back in it.
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So when you look at the at the big picture when you're looking at the A F.
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C E s Josh Allen is the best quarterback right now.
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Crazy too, Kendall.
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What do you think, man? Is he the best quarterback in the A F C East? I think by far he's the best on the best quarterback in the FCS, I think Tours coming, though.
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I know it's a small sample size way.
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Don't know what the Patriots future is and the Jets or the Jets.
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So e man, you agree with your boys, man.
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Look, I'm gonna have to agree with them.
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I mean, Josh Allen is the best quarterback in that division.
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I mean, who are we comparing? Two.
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I mean, you're talking about Joe Flacco, Sam.
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Donald.
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I mean, he hasn't really played all year to a ton about low.
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Uh, he struggled yesterday.
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Didn't look too good.
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Uh, fits.
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Magic went back in the game.
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And Cam, I mean, we really don't know what Cam is right now.
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He looks like a show of himself.
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We have we seen some great games and we since the battle game.
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So you gotta agree.
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Would have to go. Josh Allen.
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Connor, are you gonna agree with our guests? Are you going to cause some controversy here and go the other way.
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No, I have no choice.
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I have to agree on this one.
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I think Josh Allen is hands down the best in the A F C East.
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Right now, we'll see what happens with to I think two is gonna be really good, But not yet.
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Right now, it's Josh Challenge division.
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So during the off season this year, I joined a party in New York Jets podcast.
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There was an A F C East Roundtable, though, and there was a Bills fan of Dolphins fan.
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Obviously, I represented the Patriots and the Jets, and I caused an uproar at the table because I said that Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the A F C East and this was before the season started.
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I said, Um, maybe sorry it wasn't This season off season was the last offseason Tom Brady was there, and I said, The moment Tom Brady leaves a division, Josh Allen is gonna own the A F C East and there.
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No, Sam Donald is the best quarterback, and I was like, No, you know what Adam Jason learned how we'll figure out how to ruin him, and he did I predicted that just perfectly.
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I think Ryan Tannehill's an example of what happens when you play with a really coach.
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I gotta agree, man.
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We all We're all waiting for Josh Allen to take that step as the best you know, to really become a premier quarterback.
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And I think about that Rams game, even though they let the bills come.
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The bills let them come all the way back.
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And they got that lucky pass interference call.
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He made this touchdown when it counted.
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Right? That was the piece that I like the most.
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Now I want to turn to Fidel because you're the Raiders fan, right? Because I am heartbreaking loss last night.
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But I gotta ask you, what are the Raiders doing giving Patrick Mahomes a minute 43 toe work with? Do you look drawn group and a little bit.
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And think clock management just wasn't there last night.
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Yeah, and then you gotta think about the second to last driving the game.
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Uh, it was supposed to be 1/4 and one play.
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Obviously.
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Jon Gruden got a penalty.
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15 yards were coming down the field and telling the official something I've never seen that happen before.
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But what? When you're playing against the Kansas City Chiefs, you can't kick field goals, you gotta score touchdowns.
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So even though it was a tough a tough loss for the Raiders, you have to kind of put everything in perspective.
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They had a covert issue again, so most of defensive players did not practice all week.
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I mean, a lot of people thought they're gonna get steamrolled, right? And it really came down to the last drive.
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Then they just left too much time to for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
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That's why the last now all open this up to the whole panel here.
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But I'll give you guys my opinion.
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We were talking about this on SportsCastr News tonight.
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That's the other show that I'm that SportsCastr.
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Well, they don't really pay me Dio.
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I paid corner with the SportsCastr news money, but, uh is the other show we get paid to do here.
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And I just like to always rob that in Connor's face.
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I made you famous and I make you money, so I always got to remind him, But no way talked a little bit about that game and we were all kind of in agreeance that what that game showed us last night despite the loss, is I think the Raiders air for Riel team and I wanna open up to everybody like they're a team that I don't know if I want to play them in the playoffs.
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Like when you're talking a one game elimination game.
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We watched that.
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We've seen them beat the chief we've seen.
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I saw them play tough against the Patriots.
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We've seen them look bad, but we've seen them look really good.
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And I think last night I'm gonna be honest with you.
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You ran into Patrick Mahomes and yeah, the fourth and one, the penalty.
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And there was another bad holding call which I don't think should've been a penalty.
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It's amazing how you know, people used to talk about the Patriots getting all the calls right.
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I think that's now gonna be reversed over to the to the Kansas City Chiefs.
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But I think that this Raiders team is for Riel now. Fidel's the homer.
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So we're gonna keep him out of this conversation because I want everybody else's opinion corner.
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Let me start with you, man.
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Are the Raiders of for real team in the league this year? Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, despite the loss last night, you still have to feel good if you're the Raiders.
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They went toe to toe with the Chiefs for the second time.
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Obviously, they beat him already, and it really came down to the wire.
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If they didn't leave Travis Kelsey wide open the end zone there at the end of the game, they were probably gonna win.
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I thought they had a good chance of winning that game.
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It came right down to the wire and their offense look great.
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I mean, Derek Carr is these flashes of greatness, so I would be afraid to play them in the playoffs.
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Jerry, you're gonna back up your boy here.
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Are you gonna shatter his dreams? I'm gonna I'm gonna shatter all Raider radio stations dreams.
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So look.
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So when I look at football, I look at it from from a from a different standpoint, right? I tried to take the Inter fan out of me.
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Now I will say this.
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I've always been a big fan of Derek Carr, and I'm gonna give due or proper do is do Raiders were playing some really good football, but I think that once they get into the playoffs, they are one and done.
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Now, let me explain.
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I'm sorry, Okay? Let me explain.
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Have you ever noticed? Well, a certain quarterbacks, they always have the same tendencies, the same kind of outcomes, especially later on in the games.
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You know, the miss A missed aches.
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Let's take Matt Stafford from the Detroit Alliance.
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I mean, but it always seems like it comes down to the same situations.
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Let's go back to Tony Romo.
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It always looks like it came down to the same situational things that would hold them from going to the next level.
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So when you're looking at it, you need a quarterback that's ruthless.
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That's like a Patrick Mahomes.
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You know what I mean? Like one that's not going to just sit there and just take it.
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And Derek Carr? Unfortunately, he's always had this.
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He's had this ability, this great ability.
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I mean, he throws a nice ball.
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I mean, he has a lot of spin on it.
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I mean, great arm strength, but it's just I don't know.
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There's just like this mental block with Derek Carr, and you look at all the situation of football.
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They had to play yesterday.
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So if you're talking about situational football against a superstar team in the playoffs, I said the Steelers, I mean, I don't know.
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I don't think the Raiders, I don't think the right.
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Now I will say this.
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In a couple of years, the Raiders were gonna be a team that you gotta be careful with.
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Yes. And right now, they're still red hot.
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But I'm just saying I don't think they're gonna go too far into the playoffs.
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The city.
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All right, Kendall, before I go to you, I'm gonna get Fidel an opportunity to respond to that.
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Uh, do you agree with what Jerry saying or or are you gonna defend your boys here? Well, this is the way that I think about it.
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So obviously this year, Derek Carr has not been the issue.
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The defense has been a huge issue, and the reason why they lost last night was because of the defense.
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It wasn't because Derek Carr I know he threw a pick at the end, But, I mean, you only had 29 seconds.
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You have to score touchdowns.
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You only have one time out.
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So I will say Derek Carr has, you know, improved every year under Jon Gruden's system, and now he's got some weapons.
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Unfortunately, when he's thrown some nice passes, he's got some drops.
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Nelson Agholor dropped two passes and crucial.
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I mean, it was third downs that would have kept the driver line.
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Then what? Scored some points.
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So I mean, I get what Jerry's saying, but we're seeing a different Derek Carr this year.
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I feel like so if they do lose, it's not gonna be on Derek Carr.
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It's gonna be on that young defense candle.
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You're the tie breaker, man.
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Between your boys are the first of all.
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I want you to give your little piece on Derek Carr.
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Is he gonna keep making the same systematic mistakes that Jerry is alluding to? Or is the defense the issue? And are the Raiders a true competitor in the league this year? I'm gonna start with Derek Carr.
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I think, last month he played really good against the Chiefs, so I think he's definitely enough to get them by this year.
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And secondly, I think the Raiders are for real.
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I know I might start a few people, but I think that for Riel last night, Um, e I mean, if they had a couple defensive play about So I think the man for their was talking earlier via text.
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And I said The Raiders are, Ah, pass rusher in a corner, Back away from being serious with the Chiefs.
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And just look at the if he has the whole That's the only team you really gotta compete against the Chiefs, the Steelers.
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I mean, you don't know what you gonna get from Baltimore.
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I think they could be Tennessee.
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But if I'm if I want If I'm Pittsburgh, Tennessee, I don't wanna see Raiders.
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I don't want to see the Raiders in the playoffs.
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I think I think they're for real.
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I think they had a defense.
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I'm telling you, I think the Raiders could really cause some damage because the offensive there, So I definitely think they could be They could be a Jimmy three in the playoffs.
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Okay, So, Connor, down there in the corner, we got Jerry and Jerry.
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No offense to you guys has the nicest smile of of all this week, right? And he puts on this nice, warm and comfortable smile, he adds. Me toe linked in.
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He sends me nice messages on Twitter.
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How are you hope? Things Orwell.
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We bring them on in the backstage before we start to show.
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The first thing that comes out of his mouth is ho.
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Those Patriots rate, you know, like just the just A.
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He's the one of the wolf in sheep's clothing.
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You know, just don't trust the smile, but I'm gonna put Jerry on the spot.
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Who's who's flexing that.
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He's got a chance in the NFC East right now with his Dallas Cowboys.
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I mean, but you're Do you realize that the Patriots would be first in the NFC East right now with their pathetic four and six record? Right, Well, let's talk about your Dallas Cowboys.
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You got to be disappointed, right? Because they were one of my predictions this offseason to run the NFC.
00:18:03
Forget the NFC East, especially after the draft.
00:18:07
I thought this is now the team.
00:18:09
Forget the offense for a minute and forget my boy Ezekiel Elliott from the Ohio State University.
00:18:15
But forget his sort of poor play this year.
00:18:18
How devastated are you by this defensive play? Because I think that's what just shocked me More than anything else.
00:18:25
I think it's, I mean, when you when you look at the defense, I mean the one, the one person that comes to my mind is Jaylin Smith just taking like bad angles and and then he just not even chasing it down.
00:18:37
So to me, I mean, there's there's, there's something there.
00:18:41
I don't know what it is.
00:18:42
I think it's a cultural thing as far as the defense, because a lot of these defense of members are the same ones from the year before.
00:18:51
So when you look at it, I mean, I don't think it's just on defense that the issue runs on two.
00:18:56
I think it also runs on offense to You gotta look at both things.
00:19:00
But the more the more, the more.
00:19:02
The more heartbreaking thing for me was that, I mean, you never want to see that kind of injury also.
00:19:07
So, you know, even even with all that, that I kind of piled upon you, Um, I think that with Andy Dalton Yeah, I was kind of like looking forward to see what he could do.
00:19:17
But then the offensive line is kind of still dismantle.
00:19:19
I mean, they have Jack Barton, who's the right guard of all perennial, you know, Pro All Pro right guard playing right tackle, because the offensive line is in shambles.
00:19:30
So I think I think, in a nutshell, what the Cowboys have been able to do, especially with a team that got hot towards the end with the Vikings.
00:19:37
Come away with that wind.
00:19:39
I still don't think they're gonna be ready to get into the playoffs.
00:19:42
I see the Giants and I see the Redskins kind of the front runners to make it into the playoffs with that seat.
00:19:47
That there that the NFC East has to offer the football team, not the Redskins E a Washington, but Washington E.
00:19:59
I read that there actually might go with that name going forward.
00:20:02
That's what I've heard that they might just go with you know what I mean? Imagine like, if they were good, that would be the biggest flex in the world, like we don't even need a name, you know, we're just the football team.
00:20:14
You might be the you know, New York football giants were just the football team won one more follow up before I turned Thio.
00:20:23
Everybody else here talking a little bit about the quarterback situation because there were some.
00:20:29
And there was some here on SportsCastr News who believed that going into this season, pre injury that the Dallas Cowboys would have been a better team with Andy Dalton over Dak Prescott.
00:20:43
Now we've seen a small sample size of adult, and obviously, he got injured earlier.
00:20:49
I was never a proponent of the Cowboys being better with Andy over deck.
00:20:56
Or could you please set people straight? Are you going to shock me, too? And think that Andy Dalton should have started this season? Well, let me let me let me answer this because this is really good cushion here.
00:21:06
Right? Um, so I would have loved to seen deck behind this kind of offensive lying number one.
00:21:13
I would have loved to see his performance.
00:21:15
Could he still pull these winds off? Like the way he was? I mean, he still had He still had decent protection, you know? He still had Tyronne Smith along with him.
00:21:23
He still had Zack Martin, you know, you still have protection, so he was able to muster some wins But when that whole entire offensive line just got shut down for the season, do you think we would have seen a different outcome? I will say this.
00:21:36
It would have made an interesting story line going into the offseason.
00:21:39
But I will tell you this.
00:21:41
Yeah, there's one thing that I've learned about Dak Prescott over watching him over the span of the last couple of years is that he is the quarterback who has learned the game.
00:21:50
In other words, he understands what he's good at, and he understands.
00:21:54
But he's not good at, so what he does is he works on that.
00:21:58
I'm not making those bone headed mistakes, so he's not gonna He's not gonna He's not gonna force any kind of turnover or put the team in a bad situation.
00:22:07
So when you look at that, oh, man, he's just an interesting quarterback.
00:22:12
Just head to tell.
00:22:13
But I will say this somebody.
00:22:14
You've seen the maturation.
00:22:15
He studies himself, and he's not gonna push what he cannot do with Andy Dalton.
00:22:20
We know what Andy Dalton is.
00:22:22
He's gonna sling it around.
00:22:23
He's gonna take chances and had we had a healthy offensive line and you put those two in a foot race.
00:22:32
I mean, you're going to see two different completion percentage is you're gonna see two different stat lines, a bunch of turnovers on one and a bunch of touchdowns in the other word.
00:22:40
So I I didn't I wasn't I wasn't buying buying into.
00:22:45
I wasn't I wasn't fully fully sold on Andy Dalton being the answer at quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys car.
00:22:53
Kendall, let me turn to you.
00:22:55
Are you surprised by where the Dallas Cowboys are now? Even where they were when Dak was still on the team.
00:23:01
You know, we saw them struggle.
00:23:02
They had to come back against Atlanta.
00:23:04
Basically, they were Atlanta not knowing how to handle uh, uh, an onside kick away from losing that game.
00:23:11
Are you surprised where Dallas was and where they are now or because Did you have higher expectations or they kind of where you thought they would have been this season, right? I'm surprised in a little bit.
00:23:23
Kinda like, very disappointed in the defense.
00:23:25
I mean, you paid the Marcus Tate Lawrence to get to the quarterback, and and I think I read a state got like, a couple sacks.
00:23:32
And in the last two years he has not been get to the quarterback.
00:23:35
Jaylon Smith.
00:23:36
He's going to run around like a chicken with his head cut off.
00:23:38
He don't know.
00:23:39
You don't know what's going on.
00:23:40
So I mean, I mean vendor and he can't stay off.
00:23:43
He can't stay on the field something. He's been hurt.
00:23:45
So really? I mean, I'm disappointed in the player for the cowboy, mainly on the defense.
00:23:50
I mean, yes, the offense.
00:23:51
I mean, you've got I mean, that was heard.
00:23:53
You got your offensive line injuries here and there.
00:23:55
Marty Cooper.
00:23:56
He shows up when he wants to.
00:23:58
Um, s O I mean e major disappointment.
00:24:01
Is this just defense? This God thing, I mean might know that.
00:24:04
I mean, I know he doesn't have the greatest track record after lately, but I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence, Geno Smith.
00:24:09
They just got to play better.
00:24:12
Fidel, I'll give you a word on this.
00:24:14
What's your thoughts on Dallas? Surprise.
00:24:16
Where they are surprised with the defense of play, you know, or they kind of where you thought they were gonna be this year.
00:24:22
You know what I mean? Coming into the season.
00:24:24
I said before the season started on, Mike McCarthy was the best higher that they could have made.
00:24:28
And I mean, the verdict's out on that steel, right? But what? What everything's told me is that they missed Dak tremendously.
00:24:34
And you know, Dax should be the quarterback going forward for the Dallas Cowboys.
00:24:38
I mean, when you look at that offense on paper, you're like, Well, this has to be a you know, Number one offense, right? They drafted city land.
00:24:45
Zeke was coming back.
00:24:46
Michael Gallup, Mark Cooper.
00:24:48
I mean, there was really no holes besides some of the offensive line, so I am a little bit surprised, you know? But a lot of things happened to the Cowboys.
00:24:56
No one was expecting back to break his ankle, which, you know, obviously, that was not good to see it.
00:25:01
They just been dealing with a lot of injuries.
00:25:03
And then Andy Dahlen got a concussion.
00:25:05
Then they got co bid and they play the Steelers close.
00:25:08
And now, you know, yesterday they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
00:25:10
Still, my hat's off to them.
00:25:11
Look, so one has to win the division, so why not the Dallas Cowboys.
00:25:16
I mean, that's a good point.
00:25:17
And anybody who is watching live on SportsCastr please feel free to drop any comments or questions that you have in the chat.
00:25:23
We will definitely ask the boys your answers.
00:25:25
Connor.
00:25:26
Anything you wanna add about the Dallas Cowboys? Like where you where they are this year? No, I'm just I feel bad for Dad.
00:25:32
He was having literally an M V P season.
00:25:34
He looks spectacular, and it was tough to see him go down like that.
00:25:37
I thought they were gonna be, you know, possibly a Super Bowl contender with such a stacked offense.
00:25:42
I mean, CD lamb looks great.
00:25:44
Amari Cooper is always good.
00:25:45
Michael Gallup has digressed a little bit so far this season, but he's still a really good receiver.
00:25:51
I thought they were gonna be 12 and four.
00:25:53
But you know, the defense has struggled.
00:25:55
And now, now, once that got injured, I just thought, you know, after that, I didn't have very high expectations.
00:26:02
Yeah, I really felt bad for Doc to because he bet on himself this year, and I think performance on, I think performance wise, he was showing that he is worth money and unfortunate that ankle injury is going to go against him when he goes back in the negotiations.
00:26:16
Um, I believe that that we're going to see another franchise tag, which is unfortunate.
00:26:21
I don't want to see a Kirk Cousins situation happened in Dallas, but, you know, that's that's where we're at now.
00:26:28
And, uh, we'll have to see Kendall.
00:26:32
This is the conversation I didn't wanna have.
00:26:36
I visited your guys show just right before the season started.
00:26:40
I think, right, It wasn't that that far off ago and we talked about the Patriots and I talked about 11, maybe 12, winds.
00:26:49
We talked about you and I specifically talked about Nikkila Harry.
00:26:52
And now this is the year he's gonna break out these Cam Newton likes him.
00:26:56
He's gonna be all over the place.
00:26:59
McKeel Harry sucks.
00:27:01
The Patriots can't win.
00:27:04
How are you? With everything that's transpired with the fumble and buffalo with the Covitz situation missing Harry wide open in Denver, the one yard short in Seattle? You know, we know that I have said that this season for the Patriots of the season of what could have Bean, and that's not a wayto play a season.
00:27:24
I almost want to say, Are you surprised? But I almost want to give you a hug and say, How do you feel right now? When are you okay? Oh, give me a minute.
00:27:34
Let me get let me get It's been a tough season as a Patriots, and it really has.
00:27:43
It's been a tough season, and I mean, the good thing is I think, that I think the future, the future first break.
00:27:50
I think the future bright way got a lot of cap space Next year.
00:27:53
We got a bunch of picks.
00:27:55
Now we've had picks can build a chick.
00:27:57
Finally put the good, but they're pretty good.
00:27:59
Drowned.
00:28:00
I mean, you could have many picks.
00:28:01
You gotta get great players, Good players.
00:28:04
Nikkila.
00:28:05
Harry.
00:28:06
I've told the boy I'm done with the kill Harry.
00:28:07
I'm done with it.
00:28:08
I'm done.
00:28:09
I've seen enough of it.
00:28:11
I can't I can't take anymore.
00:28:12
It's just especially when you see other receivers in history class in this job class that are performing better, like Justin Jefferson.
00:28:19
Every time I good wide receiver plays good, I tell the guy that's another guy that we could have had in New England, so way can't we can't draft, want to save a lot.
00:28:28
So I'm don't particularly.
00:28:30
But I didn't think for this year the Kobe I think it's a coded season for us.
00:28:35
I'm gonna chalk it up as a covert season because opt outs.
00:28:38
Um, Cam got there, like, two months before opening day.
00:28:43
Um, yes, I know where you came on.
00:28:45
I think I said I like Jared Stidham, But I know what Jared Stidham isn't that I was kind of getting ahead of myself there.
00:28:50
So that Z I'm gonna go ahead and I'm I'm it on live right now that I was wrong there.
00:28:55
But I mean, Cam Newton, I think he's played decent and I'm the bird.
00:28:59
I mean, he's a journeyman, but he's kinda came out there.
00:29:00
He's playing pretty good.
00:29:02
Jacoby MMA.
00:29:03
I was He's gonna be pretty good.
00:29:06
I like I like to see in Jacoby Meyers.
00:29:07
But for the most part, just chuck it all.
00:29:10
I mean, as a fan right now, I'm just evaluating talent.
00:29:13
I want to see what we got in the young guy.
00:29:14
Damon Harris, Jacoby Meyers.
00:29:16
O'Shea winning it.
00:29:17
I want to see um joke.
00:29:18
Juan Williams Williams, J.
00:29:20
C.
00:29:21
J. I want to see the younger guys. Come on, Anthony James.
00:29:23
And so I'm just evaluate telling and I'm already focused on the scouting combine and the draft and free agency I'm done with this year.
00:29:29
I've seen enough of the team, and it's it's been hard to watch.
00:29:33
I've seen enough of the team and home.
00:29:36
I'm just hoping we go what? 5 11? So let's just win two more Game two.
00:29:40
Just militant for a year and get a top 10 pick.
00:29:42
That's what I'm hoping for.
00:29:44
Yeah, Connor and I I think it was last week, Connor that you and I officially wrote off Nikkila.
00:29:49
Harry, we're officially stopped.
00:29:51
We defended Connor and I were fierce defenders of Nikkila Harry, and we couldn't do it anymore.
00:29:56
It was just that he's our I picked him is my biggest disappointment of the season of just what he just wasn't.
00:30:05
Um I'll go to Fidel next, shocked by where the Patriots are.
00:30:11
Is this what you expected out of the Patriots this season? I mean, you were very gracious and nice new when I was on your show, and I don't know what your feelings were on.
00:30:17
It is this is this where you thought they'd be at this point of the season right now? Honestly, I thought with can they would have a winning record.
00:30:25
But again, injuries happened.
00:30:27
Rexburg got hurt.
00:30:29
You know, yesterday, I think he might be out for the year.
00:30:32
There's just a lot of different things going on with the Patriots to kill.
00:30:34
Harry has not panned out. He's been hurt as well.
00:30:36
Um, I thought whenever Cam was signed to the Patriots, like, you know what they might have in okay. Year.
00:30:41
But again, camp was different from all the other years to e.
00:30:46
I believe he came in kind of late to so.
00:30:49
But they just beat Baltimore last week, which I think Baltimore is one of the most overrated teams in the NFL.
00:30:54
So I mean, I am a little bit surprised where they're at.
00:30:57
Um, but we'll see.
00:30:58
And I was actually expecting them to beat the Texans yesterday, so I don't know a question mark on that one. Still, Yeah.
00:31:06
So were we.
00:31:07
You know what? I don't even want Jerry's opinion, so we'll just Jerry, what do you feel about this page.
00:31:15
It seems shocked where they are right now.
00:31:22
Well, the tapes not getting for the last couple of years.
00:31:26
So let me let me go and answer that question.
00:31:28
So I mean, look, I'll tell you this.
00:31:32
When you when I looked at the Patriots, I mean, at one point I was like, Wow, Cam is really the answer of what the Patriots have been looking at for quarterback for a while.
00:31:40
Maybe Tom Brady was one holding back the whole system from evolving to modern day NFL.
00:31:47
And then we see, like weekend week out.
00:31:49
You know, Cam is either, you know, his head is not in the game or it's It's not, you know and Can is making the same mistakes he's trying.
00:31:58
I think when I look at camp, he's pressing too much.
00:32:01
I think this record could actually be a little bit better if Cab would just relax and just go out there and play a ball. Play football.
00:32:08
I mean, e mean if he could just treat it like he was playing in Hamburg, I'm pretty sure, e I mean, we would the Patriots would be taking this division.
00:32:16
Uh, the the the I I believe that I believe the record will be totally different.
00:32:20
And now we're talking about a powerhouse team right here.
00:32:23
So I will say this.
00:32:25
It's very interesting because you got you got the biggest Alfa Dog or Alfa Mel in in sports history with the head coach and Bill Belichick.
00:32:36
So you're gonna need somebody that can somebody that that is an Alfa, like also another Alfa male that understands that Alfa Mills and I'm talking about quarterbacks.
00:32:45
So when you look at Tom Brady, I mean, he was a fiery competitors.
00:32:48
You would go ruffle up his offensive lineman or or his wide receivers when they weren't catching their, uh, we still see them doing that with Tampa Bay, right? But you know, when you need that, it looks like that's what you that looks like.
00:33:00
It's gonna be the actual long term answer at quarterback for the Patriots.
00:33:04
So it's gonna be very interesting.
00:33:05
I know.
00:33:06
I heard you guys talking about What are they gonna do in the off season, man? There's gonna be a very interesting topic.
00:33:10
I mean, what what do the patriots to? You guys have a lot of draft capital on.
00:33:16
You guys got a You guys got a lot of cap.
00:33:19
So I mean, I would I I think that if you're gonna, if you're gonna draft a quarterback, I think this is the year not to play any games because you got you got the Broncos for trigger happy and they will draft a quarterback, e.
00:33:31
I mean, they could steal a good a good potential quarterback out there.
00:33:35
I mean, aside from Trevor Lawrence and and Justin Fields, I mean, you got trade Lance Now, Zach Wilson's in the mix.
00:33:42
And now also Kyler trust I mean, you can't you cannot pass up in the quarterback if you Bill Belichick wants to have success, he needs to find him his that Alfa male quarterback and well, and and And who knows? Next next season's gonna be totally different for the Patriots.
00:33:57
Hey, Ray, Also real quick.
00:33:59
When you look at this division of whole, everyone's gonna have a young quarterback, especially the Jets next year.
00:34:03
They're probably gonna Trevor Lawrence.
00:34:04
So you got to attended by Lower there in Miami, and you have Josh Allen and Buffalo.
00:34:09
So I think it's time for the New England Patriots get a young stud as well.
00:34:12
But when we're saying about the Patriots, right, Thank you.
00:34:15
They were tanking for Trevor Trevor tanking for Trevor E.
00:34:20
I mean, the the East went from sort of the joke of the league Thio.
00:34:25
They're kind of being set up in the near future, being one of the most competitive in the league, depending how you manage now, Yes, you got your young quarterbacks.
00:34:33
But at some point, all those young quarterbacks are gonna cost money.
00:34:36
Now it's gonna be how do you manage your teams and make sure that you're keeping yourself balanced corner? The people have heard you and I wine and cry and complain about the Patriots very much over the last couple of days especially, but I'll throw it to you.
00:34:50
You've heard some different insights, just general thoughts where we are right now.
00:34:55
What we what you think we need to see going forward, I think obviously coming in I was very overly optimistic, but I'm shocked to see that they have a losing record.
00:35:04
I thought at this point they would at least be five and 56 and four, something just to see them have a losing record.
00:35:11
I'm very surprised, and I decided, whatever Bill Belichick decides to do with the quarterback situation I will be happy with.
00:35:18
If he thinks that Cam is the right person for the job next year, that's fine with me.
00:35:22
If he decides to go with the rookie, that's also fine with me.
00:35:25
Um, in Bill we trust.
00:35:29
So if you guys heard our intro were Bill Belichick Fanboys So we will always just believe in anything that Bill Belichick tells us.
00:35:36
Um, obviously I know that not everybody is, uh is on that.
00:35:43
I know.
00:35:44
My boy Nate is not a fan of Bill Belichick as a GM.
00:35:46
I think he's a fan of him as a coach, but not as a GM would like to see the Patriots get a new general manager.
00:35:52
Okay, boys, we got a way, actually, don't have time, but I'm just gonna add some time if you guys air. Okay.
00:35:58
Um, got a couple of questions from the audience here.
00:36:00
I just like to throw out it.
00:36:01
You guys, we can open it up.
00:36:03
Um, so this comes from a lot of them come from our boy and make chicken vlogs.
00:36:09
Make chicken Vlog wants to know Garrett Gilbert or Ben DeNucci.
00:36:14
E Go first on now.
00:36:17
Right? Well, I mean, I'm a Texas employ.
00:36:20
Uh, give me.
00:36:21
Give me Gilbert Gilbert.
00:36:25
I'll take Gilbert to I'll take him.
00:36:29
I'll take Gilbert.
00:36:30
Yeah, way I like his name.
00:36:33
Way saw It was not all Gucci with the Nucci.
00:36:37
I know.
00:36:38
That was a new hashtag that came out so way.
00:36:44
Interesting prospect, to say the least.
00:36:47
Who you got, man, you got the Nucci or you got or Gilbert Gilbert Guilt.
00:36:56
Alright, **** Chicken also wants to know, uh, John Gilbert.
00:37:01
Now he's put this one specifically for Kendall, but I think everybody can can answer this.
00:37:07
He says, What position? About what position should the Patriots target with their first pick in the draft this offseason? Don't do it, Wide receiver.
00:37:21
Oh, my gosh.
00:37:23
Wide receiver.
00:37:27
You want you trust Bill Belichick picking a wide receiver in the first round again? Mhm.
00:37:33
What? It all depends what they're doing.
00:37:36
That quarterback sitio girl you.
00:37:40
So I'm already predicting that Bill Belichick is going to draft an interior defensive lineman in the first round this year.
00:37:46
Thio for, uh Well, they do need.
00:37:53
They do need some defensive back.
00:37:55
I mean, I like taste. Jackson.
00:37:57
I don't I think Stefan Gilmore is already I guess this time is washed up there.
00:38:01
And let me let me ask you this question, guys, is to fund Gilmore.
00:38:06
Still worth the first round draft pick After what we've seen the last couple of weeks.
00:38:10
I always planned on injury right now, but being hurt, having a bit of an off season to start.
00:38:15
I mean, I think going into the trade deadline, he was definitely worth the first.
00:38:19
I think the papers could have got a first.
00:38:21
Do you think they could get a first for him in the off season? If there's a team on the brink of, you know, making the Super Bowl, if they feel like they're only one piece of weight, then at that point, if a team has a draft capital and they feel that they can make a Super Bowl run next year, then why not? That's a tough one for me, man.
00:38:39
I mean, you're you're talking about what is gonna be 32 next year.
00:38:44
Yes.
00:38:45
I think he's gonna be 32.
00:38:46
I mean, I don't see, I don't see anybody giving a first round.
00:38:50
I mean, look how 30.
00:38:51
Wow, next year.
00:38:55
So So I was asking what, c h next year, But I'm just saying, overall, when you look at it, his game is not where you know where it was a year or two or three years ago, So I mean, I'm not saying it zn friend, because look at it, Xavier Rhodes.
00:39:13
Everybody wrote him off, right? Saying that that they write him off, right? They said, That's it.
00:39:18
His career is washed up.
00:39:20
We'll look at him.
00:39:21
He's probably one of the best corners right on the game, playing for the for the Indianapolis Colts.
00:39:24
So I mean, e, I want not to count that out.
00:39:28
But I will tell you this.
00:39:29
It looks like a lot of teams were game very stingy with that first round pick.
00:39:33
And they're not gonna They're not gonna give it to.
00:39:34
Somebody's gonna be 31 years old.
00:39:37
They are in the cornerback.
00:39:38
Market has been very strange lately to outside of Jalen Ramsey.
00:39:42
We're not seeing a lot of big contracts that cornerback you.
00:39:45
What? I mean, like, it's that used to be one of the ***y positions on defense, and they're almost becoming diamond, doesn't there? Almost becoming the running back of the defense.
00:39:54
Now, you know what I mean? Like everybody confined one.
00:39:57
Okay, last question.
00:39:58
Here it is a Patriots question, but I'd love to get everybody's opinion on it.
00:40:02
This comes from our friend of the show, Joe, over on Facebook.
00:40:05
Should the Patriots have Harry add 15 to £20 and convert a move to tight end? Why not e? Yeah, I just just so you know, that's corner like that's not an act like that's why not.
00:40:23
Let's just do it just Well, gentlemen, um, thank you so much for coming on before we go.
00:40:30
Why don't you let our audience know where they confined you? I'm a big fan of your guys show.
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New England Patriots quarterback Cam Newton was given a new home in Foxborough after being waived by the Carolina Panthers, albeit only for a one-year stay. Questions revolving around the extension of his stay with the Patriots are already bugging him with free agency approaching. However, as it stands today, it seems like the 2015 […]

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Connor, I'm Jack, man.
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We got three guest on tonight.
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Yes, sir.
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From the East West football podcast.
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And I think we're gonna have a good time with them.
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But before we get into it, we've got to talk about our SportsCastr story of the night.
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And that is Cam Newton basically completely avoiding the question today.
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When asked will he resign with the Patriots next season? Basically saying I'm just thinking about Arizona.
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Would you expect any different oven? Answer.
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Would you really expect Cam Newton at this point to really discuss what he thinks he's gonna do next season? No, no, definitely not.
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I mean, that's definitely the right answer to just come out and say We're on to Arizona.
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Usually you don't get much out of not even just quarterbacks, just players in general who are going to sign next season.
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So I don't know if he knows, and he's just not going to say anything or he might not have even really disgusted with Belichick to this point.
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I really don't know.
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Yeah, I I doubt that they've had any conversation.
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Let's see how this season goes.
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I wanna ask you because I saw an interesting little, uh, tip it on Twitter today.
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Somebody put it out and I kind of agreed with them.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the Patriots draft a quarterback and keep Cam Newton.
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Would that be, uh, would that be a decent move for them? What do you think? Honestly, I haven't really even thought about that.
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I've always thought it would be one way or the other, But now that you say that, that would probably be a pretty good option.
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Would you want it all? My ideal scenario is after San Francisco cuts Jimmy G.
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You signed Jimmy G resigned Cam Newton and you draft a quarterback.
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You let Newton and Jimmy Garoppolo fight out about who's gonna be the starter, and you have the rookie develop behind him.
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I'm not arrogant.
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E am that arrogant of a Patriots fan that I think Bill Belichick could pull that off and I mean, line up and stop me.
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Stop me from being, you know, it's that whole piece, right? Like, give me a reason not to be arrogant, right? Well, this season's kind of reason not today.
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I was gonna say this season's kind of giving us that reason for the first time in 20 years.
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But it's all good. It's not over.
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It's not over.
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SportsCastr made a mistake signing us to instead of these three.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I want to introduce you to Fidel, Jerry and Kendall, my boys over at the East West football podcast.
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These guys are the bomb.
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I did their show a little while ago.
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You know what? We got about 2025 minutes left.
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Let's have some fun, gentlemen.
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Welcome to the show.
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How you doing today? Welcome.
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Welcome.
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Wow, What a way like to put you guys on the spot right away to try to one up us because we're nervous having you on your all the big shots.
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You're hanging out with Hugh Jackson and just, you know, your grilling grilling Rob Parker, which is That's a guy I'd love to get my hands on.
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So good for you guys.
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Good for you guys.
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All right, I want to throw it.
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This question right off the hop will throw it out to the whole panel.
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Um, this isn't school.
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You don't put your hand up.
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Let's have a free for all Josh Allen.
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Is he the best quarterback in the A F C East? Right now? Yes.
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Yes, he is.
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Yeah, you're You're muted, buddy.
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Look, I'm gonna go inside. There we go.
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I'm gonna go ahead, step and I'm gonna go ahead and say yes.
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I mean, look to it.
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Got benched.
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I don't know what happens to camp.
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I mean, when you stop and you look at it, I mean, the jets.
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I mean, they got Flaco.
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I mean, I thought I thought he kind of was already out of the league, but back in it.
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So when you look at the at the big picture when you're looking at the A F.
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C E s Josh Allen is the best quarterback right now.
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Crazy too, Kendall.
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What do you think, man? Is he the best quarterback in the A F C East? I think by far he's the best on the best quarterback in the FCS, I think Tours coming, though.
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I know it's a small sample size way.
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Don't know what the Patriots future is and the Jets or the Jets.
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So e man, you agree with your boys, man.
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Look, I'm gonna have to agree with them.
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I mean, Josh Allen is the best quarterback in that division.
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I mean, who are we comparing? Two.
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I mean, you're talking about Joe Flacco, Sam.
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Donald.
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I mean, he hasn't really played all year to a ton about low.
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Uh, he struggled yesterday.
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Didn't look too good.
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Uh, fits.
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Magic went back in the game.
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And Cam, I mean, we really don't know what Cam is right now.
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He looks like a show of himself.
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We have we seen some great games and we since the battle game.
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So you gotta agree.
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Would have to go. Josh Allen.
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Connor, are you gonna agree with our guests? Are you going to cause some controversy here and go the other way.
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No, I have no choice.
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I have to agree on this one.
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I think Josh Allen is hands down the best in the A F C East.
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Right now, we'll see what happens with to I think two is gonna be really good, But not yet.
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Right now, it's Josh Challenge division.
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So during the off season this year, I joined a party in New York Jets podcast.
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There was an A F C East Roundtable, though, and there was a Bills fan of Dolphins fan.
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Obviously, I represented the Patriots and the Jets, and I caused an uproar at the table because I said that Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the A F C East and this was before the season started.
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I said, Um, maybe sorry it wasn't This season off season was the last offseason Tom Brady was there, and I said, The moment Tom Brady leaves a division, Josh Allen is gonna own the A F C East and there.
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No, Sam Donald is the best quarterback, and I was like, No, you know what Adam Jason learned how we'll figure out how to ruin him, and he did I predicted that just perfectly.
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I think Ryan Tannehill's an example of what happens when you play with a really coach.
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I gotta agree, man.
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We all We're all waiting for Josh Allen to take that step as the best you know, to really become a premier quarterback.
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And I think about that Rams game, even though they let the bills come.
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The bills let them come all the way back.
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And they got that lucky pass interference call.
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He made this touchdown when it counted.
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Right? That was the piece that I like the most.
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Now I want to turn to Fidel because you're the Raiders fan, right? Because I am heartbreaking loss last night.
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But I gotta ask you, what are the Raiders doing giving Patrick Mahomes a minute 43 toe work with? Do you look drawn group and a little bit.
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And think clock management just wasn't there last night.
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Yeah, and then you gotta think about the second to last driving the game.
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Uh, it was supposed to be 1/4 and one play.
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Obviously.
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Jon Gruden got a penalty.
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15 yards were coming down the field and telling the official something I've never seen that happen before.
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But what? When you're playing against the Kansas City Chiefs, you can't kick field goals, you gotta score touchdowns.
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So even though it was a tough a tough loss for the Raiders, you have to kind of put everything in perspective.
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They had a covert issue again, so most of defensive players did not practice all week.
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I mean, a lot of people thought they're gonna get steamrolled, right? And it really came down to the last drive.
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Then they just left too much time to for Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.
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That's why the last now all open this up to the whole panel here.
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But I'll give you guys my opinion.
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We were talking about this on SportsCastr News tonight.
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That's the other show that I'm that SportsCastr.
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Well, they don't really pay me Dio.
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I paid corner with the SportsCastr news money, but, uh is the other show we get paid to do here.
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And I just like to always rob that in Connor's face.
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I made you famous and I make you money, so I always got to remind him, But no way talked a little bit about that game and we were all kind of in agreeance that what that game showed us last night despite the loss, is I think the Raiders air for Riel team and I wanna open up to everybody like they're a team that I don't know if I want to play them in the playoffs.
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Like when you're talking a one game elimination game.
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We watched that.
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We've seen them beat the chief we've seen.
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I saw them play tough against the Patriots.
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We've seen them look bad, but we've seen them look really good.
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And I think last night I'm gonna be honest with you.
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You ran into Patrick Mahomes and yeah, the fourth and one, the penalty.
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And there was another bad holding call which I don't think should've been a penalty.
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It's amazing how you know, people used to talk about the Patriots getting all the calls right.
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I think that's now gonna be reversed over to the to the Kansas City Chiefs.
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But I think that this Raiders team is for Riel now. Fidel's the homer.
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So we're gonna keep him out of this conversation because I want everybody else's opinion corner.
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Let me start with you, man.
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Are the Raiders of for real team in the league this year? Yeah, absolutely.
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I mean, despite the loss last night, you still have to feel good if you're the Raiders.
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They went toe to toe with the Chiefs for the second time.
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Obviously, they beat him already, and it really came down to the wire.
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If they didn't leave Travis Kelsey wide open the end zone there at the end of the game, they were probably gonna win.
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I thought they had a good chance of winning that game.
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It came right down to the wire and their offense look great.
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I mean, Derek Carr is these flashes of greatness, so I would be afraid to play them in the playoffs.
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Jerry, you're gonna back up your boy here.
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Are you gonna shatter his dreams? I'm gonna I'm gonna shatter all Raider radio stations dreams.
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So look.
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So when I look at football, I look at it from from a from a different standpoint, right? I tried to take the Inter fan out of me.
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Now I will say this.
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I've always been a big fan of Derek Carr, and I'm gonna give due or proper do is do Raiders were playing some really good football, but I think that once they get into the playoffs, they are one and done.
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Now, let me explain.
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I'm sorry, Okay? Let me explain.
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Have you ever noticed? Well, a certain quarterbacks, they always have the same tendencies, the same kind of outcomes, especially later on in the games.
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You know, the miss A missed aches.
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Let's take Matt Stafford from the Detroit Alliance.
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I mean, but it always seems like it comes down to the same situations.
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Let's go back to Tony Romo.
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It always looks like it came down to the same situational things that would hold them from going to the next level.
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So when you're looking at it, you need a quarterback that's ruthless.
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That's like a Patrick Mahomes.
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You know what I mean? Like one that's not going to just sit there and just take it.
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And Derek Carr? Unfortunately, he's always had this.
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He's had this ability, this great ability.
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I mean, he throws a nice ball.
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I mean, he has a lot of spin on it.
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I mean, great arm strength, but it's just I don't know.
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There's just like this mental block with Derek Carr, and you look at all the situation of football.
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They had to play yesterday.
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So if you're talking about situational football against a superstar team in the playoffs, I said the Steelers, I mean, I don't know.
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I don't think the Raiders, I don't think the right.
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Now I will say this.
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In a couple of years, the Raiders were gonna be a team that you gotta be careful with.
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Yes. And right now, they're still red hot.
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But I'm just saying I don't think they're gonna go too far into the playoffs.
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The city.
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All right, Kendall, before I go to you, I'm gonna get Fidel an opportunity to respond to that.
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Uh, do you agree with what Jerry saying or or are you gonna defend your boys here? Well, this is the way that I think about it.
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So obviously this year, Derek Carr has not been the issue.
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The defense has been a huge issue, and the reason why they lost last night was because of the defense.
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It wasn't because Derek Carr I know he threw a pick at the end, But, I mean, you only had 29 seconds.
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You have to score touchdowns.
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You only have one time out.
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So I will say Derek Carr has, you know, improved every year under Jon Gruden's system, and now he's got some weapons.
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Unfortunately, when he's thrown some nice passes, he's got some drops.
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Nelson Agholor dropped two passes and crucial.
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I mean, it was third downs that would have kept the driver line.
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Then what? Scored some points.
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So I mean, I get what Jerry's saying, but we're seeing a different Derek Carr this year.
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I feel like so if they do lose, it's not gonna be on Derek Carr.
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It's gonna be on that young defense candle.
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You're the tie breaker, man.
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Between your boys are the first of all.
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I want you to give your little piece on Derek Carr.
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Is he gonna keep making the same systematic mistakes that Jerry is alluding to? Or is the defense the issue? And are the Raiders a true competitor in the league this year? I'm gonna start with Derek Carr.
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I think, last month he played really good against the Chiefs, so I think he's definitely enough to get them by this year.
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And secondly, I think the Raiders are for real.
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I know I might start a few people, but I think that for Riel last night, Um, e I mean, if they had a couple defensive play about So I think the man for their was talking earlier via text.
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And I said The Raiders are, Ah, pass rusher in a corner, Back away from being serious with the Chiefs.
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And just look at the if he has the whole That's the only team you really gotta compete against the Chiefs, the Steelers.
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I mean, you don't know what you gonna get from Baltimore.
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I think they could be Tennessee.
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But if I'm if I want If I'm Pittsburgh, Tennessee, I don't wanna see Raiders.
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I don't want to see the Raiders in the playoffs.
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I think I think they're for real.
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I think they had a defense.
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I'm telling you, I think the Raiders could really cause some damage because the offensive there, So I definitely think they could be They could be a Jimmy three in the playoffs.
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Okay, So, Connor, down there in the corner, we got Jerry and Jerry.
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No offense to you guys has the nicest smile of of all this week, right? And he puts on this nice, warm and comfortable smile, he adds. Me toe linked in.
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He sends me nice messages on Twitter.
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How are you hope? Things Orwell.
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We bring them on in the backstage before we start to show.
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The first thing that comes out of his mouth is ho.
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Those Patriots rate, you know, like just the just A.
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He's the one of the wolf in sheep's clothing.
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You know, just don't trust the smile, but I'm gonna put Jerry on the spot.
00:17:38
Who's who's flexing that.
00:17:40
He's got a chance in the NFC East right now with his Dallas Cowboys.
00:17:45
I mean, but you're Do you realize that the Patriots would be first in the NFC East right now with their pathetic four and six record? Right, Well, let's talk about your Dallas Cowboys.
00:17:58
You got to be disappointed, right? Because they were one of my predictions this offseason to run the NFC.
00:18:03
Forget the NFC East, especially after the draft.
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I thought this is now the team.
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Forget the offense for a minute and forget my boy Ezekiel Elliott from the Ohio State University.
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But forget his sort of poor play this year.
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How devastated are you by this defensive play? Because I think that's what just shocked me More than anything else.
00:18:25
I think it's, I mean, when you when you look at the defense, I mean the one, the one person that comes to my mind is Jaylin Smith just taking like bad angles and and then he just not even chasing it down.
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So to me, I mean, there's there's, there's something there.
00:18:41
I don't know what it is.
00:18:42
I think it's a cultural thing as far as the defense, because a lot of these defense of members are the same ones from the year before.
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So when you look at it, I mean, I don't think it's just on defense that the issue runs on two.
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I think it also runs on offense to You gotta look at both things.
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But the more the more, the more.
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The more heartbreaking thing for me was that, I mean, you never want to see that kind of injury also.
00:19:07
So, you know, even even with all that, that I kind of piled upon you, Um, I think that with Andy Dalton Yeah, I was kind of like looking forward to see what he could do.
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But then the offensive line is kind of still dismantle.
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I mean, they have Jack Barton, who's the right guard of all perennial, you know, Pro All Pro right guard playing right tackle, because the offensive line is in shambles.
00:19:30
So I think I think, in a nutshell, what the Cowboys have been able to do, especially with a team that got hot towards the end with the Vikings.
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Come away with that wind.
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I still don't think they're gonna be ready to get into the playoffs.
00:19:42
I see the Giants and I see the Redskins kind of the front runners to make it into the playoffs with that seat.
00:19:47
That there that the NFC East has to offer the football team, not the Redskins E a Washington, but Washington E.
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I read that there actually might go with that name going forward.
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That's what I've heard that they might just go with you know what I mean? Imagine like, if they were good, that would be the biggest flex in the world, like we don't even need a name, you know, we're just the football team.
00:20:14
You might be the you know, New York football giants were just the football team won one more follow up before I turned Thio.
00:20:23
Everybody else here talking a little bit about the quarterback situation because there were some.
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And there was some here on SportsCastr News who believed that going into this season, pre injury that the Dallas Cowboys would have been a better team with Andy Dalton over Dak Prescott.
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Now we've seen a small sample size of adult, and obviously, he got injured earlier.
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I was never a proponent of the Cowboys being better with Andy over deck.
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Or could you please set people straight? Are you going to shock me, too? And think that Andy Dalton should have started this season? Well, let me let me let me answer this because this is really good cushion here.
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Right? Um, so I would have loved to seen deck behind this kind of offensive lying number one.
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I would have loved to see his performance.
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Could he still pull these winds off? Like the way he was? I mean, he still had He still had decent protection, you know? He still had Tyronne Smith along with him.
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He still had Zack Martin, you know, you still have protection, so he was able to muster some wins But when that whole entire offensive line just got shut down for the season, do you think we would have seen a different outcome? I will say this.
00:21:36
It would have made an interesting story line going into the offseason.
00:21:39
But I will tell you this.
00:21:41
Yeah, there's one thing that I've learned about Dak Prescott over watching him over the span of the last couple of years is that he is the quarterback who has learned the game.
00:21:50
In other words, he understands what he's good at, and he understands.
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But he's not good at, so what he does is he works on that.
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I'm not making those bone headed mistakes, so he's not gonna He's not gonna He's not gonna force any kind of turnover or put the team in a bad situation.
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So when you look at that, oh, man, he's just an interesting quarterback.
00:22:12
Just head to tell.
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But I will say this somebody.
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You've seen the maturation.
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He studies himself, and he's not gonna push what he cannot do with Andy Dalton.
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We know what Andy Dalton is.
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He's gonna sling it around.
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He's gonna take chances and had we had a healthy offensive line and you put those two in a foot race.
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I mean, you're going to see two different completion percentage is you're gonna see two different stat lines, a bunch of turnovers on one and a bunch of touchdowns in the other word.
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So I I didn't I wasn't I wasn't buying buying into.
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I wasn't I wasn't fully fully sold on Andy Dalton being the answer at quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys car.
00:22:53
Kendall, let me turn to you.
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Are you surprised by where the Dallas Cowboys are now? Even where they were when Dak was still on the team.
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You know, we saw them struggle.
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They had to come back against Atlanta.
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Basically, they were Atlanta not knowing how to handle uh, uh, an onside kick away from losing that game.
00:23:11
Are you surprised where Dallas was and where they are now or because Did you have higher expectations or they kind of where you thought they would have been this season, right? I'm surprised in a little bit.
00:23:23
Kinda like, very disappointed in the defense.
00:23:25
I mean, you paid the Marcus Tate Lawrence to get to the quarterback, and and I think I read a state got like, a couple sacks.
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And in the last two years he has not been get to the quarterback.
00:23:35
Jaylon Smith.
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He's going to run around like a chicken with his head cut off.
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He don't know.
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You don't know what's going on.
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So I mean, I mean vendor and he can't stay off.
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He can't stay on the field something. He's been hurt.
00:23:45
So really? I mean, I'm disappointed in the player for the cowboy, mainly on the defense.
00:23:50
I mean, yes, the offense.
00:23:51
I mean, you've got I mean, that was heard.
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You got your offensive line injuries here and there.
00:23:55
Marty Cooper.
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He shows up when he wants to.
00:23:58
Um, s O I mean e major disappointment.
00:24:01
Is this just defense? This God thing, I mean might know that.
00:24:04
I mean, I know he doesn't have the greatest track record after lately, but I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence, Geno Smith.
00:24:09
They just got to play better.
00:24:12
Fidel, I'll give you a word on this.
00:24:14
What's your thoughts on Dallas? Surprise.
00:24:16
Where they are surprised with the defense of play, you know, or they kind of where you thought they were gonna be this year.
00:24:22
You know what I mean? Coming into the season.
00:24:24
I said before the season started on, Mike McCarthy was the best higher that they could have made.
00:24:28
And I mean, the verdict's out on that steel, right? But what? What everything's told me is that they missed Dak tremendously.
00:24:34
And you know, Dax should be the quarterback going forward for the Dallas Cowboys.
00:24:38
I mean, when you look at that offense on paper, you're like, Well, this has to be a you know, Number one offense, right? They drafted city land.
00:24:45
Zeke was coming back.
00:24:46
Michael Gallup, Mark Cooper.
00:24:48
I mean, there was really no holes besides some of the offensive line, so I am a little bit surprised, you know? But a lot of things happened to the Cowboys.
00:24:56
No one was expecting back to break his ankle, which, you know, obviously, that was not good to see it.
00:25:01
They just been dealing with a lot of injuries.
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And then Andy Dahlen got a concussion.
00:25:05
Then they got co bid and they play the Steelers close.
00:25:08
And now, you know, yesterday they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
00:25:10
Still, my hat's off to them.
00:25:11
Look, so one has to win the division, so why not the Dallas Cowboys.
00:25:16
I mean, that's a good point.
00:25:17
And anybody who is watching live on SportsCastr please feel free to drop any comments or questions that you have in the chat.
00:25:23
We will definitely ask the boys your answers.
00:25:25
Connor.
00:25:26
Anything you wanna add about the Dallas Cowboys? Like where you where they are this year? No, I'm just I feel bad for Dad.
00:25:32
He was having literally an M V P season.
00:25:34
He looks spectacular, and it was tough to see him go down like that.
00:25:37
I thought they were gonna be, you know, possibly a Super Bowl contender with such a stacked offense.
00:25:42
I mean, CD lamb looks great.
00:25:44
Amari Cooper is always good.
00:25:45
Michael Gallup has digressed a little bit so far this season, but he's still a really good receiver.
00:25:51
I thought they were gonna be 12 and four.
00:25:53
But you know, the defense has struggled.
00:25:55
And now, now, once that got injured, I just thought, you know, after that, I didn't have very high expectations.
00:26:02
Yeah, I really felt bad for Doc to because he bet on himself this year, and I think performance on, I think performance wise, he was showing that he is worth money and unfortunate that ankle injury is going to go against him when he goes back in the negotiations.
00:26:16
Um, I believe that that we're going to see another franchise tag, which is unfortunate.
00:26:21
I don't want to see a Kirk Cousins situation happened in Dallas, but, you know, that's that's where we're at now.
00:26:28
And, uh, we'll have to see Kendall.
00:26:32
This is the conversation I didn't wanna have.
00:26:36
I visited your guys show just right before the season started.
00:26:40
I think, right, It wasn't that that far off ago and we talked about the Patriots and I talked about 11, maybe 12, winds.
00:26:49
We talked about you and I specifically talked about Nikkila Harry.
00:26:52
And now this is the year he's gonna break out these Cam Newton likes him.
00:26:56
He's gonna be all over the place.
00:26:59
McKeel Harry sucks.
00:27:01
The Patriots can't win.
00:27:04
How are you? With everything that's transpired with the fumble and buffalo with the Covitz situation missing Harry wide open in Denver, the one yard short in Seattle? You know, we know that I have said that this season for the Patriots of the season of what could have Bean, and that's not a wayto play a season.
00:27:24
I almost want to say, Are you surprised? But I almost want to give you a hug and say, How do you feel right now? When are you okay? Oh, give me a minute.
00:27:34
Let me get let me get It's been a tough season as a Patriots, and it really has.
00:27:43
It's been a tough season, and I mean, the good thing is I think, that I think the future, the future first break.
00:27:50
I think the future bright way got a lot of cap space Next year.
00:27:53
We got a bunch of picks.
00:27:55
Now we've had picks can build a chick.
00:27:57
Finally put the good, but they're pretty good.
00:27:59
Drowned.
00:28:00
I mean, you could have many picks.
00:28:01
You gotta get great players, Good players.
00:28:04
Nikkila.
00:28:05
Harry.
00:28:06
I've told the boy I'm done with the kill Harry.
00:28:07
I'm done with it.
00:28:08
I'm done.
00:28:09
I've seen enough of it.
00:28:11
I can't I can't take anymore.
00:28:12
It's just especially when you see other receivers in history class in this job class that are performing better, like Justin Jefferson.
00:28:19
Every time I good wide receiver plays good, I tell the guy that's another guy that we could have had in New England, so way can't we can't draft, want to save a lot.
00:28:28
So I'm don't particularly.
00:28:30
But I didn't think for this year the Kobe I think it's a coded season for us.
00:28:35
I'm gonna chalk it up as a covert season because opt outs.
00:28:38
Um, Cam got there, like, two months before opening day.
00:28:43
Um, yes, I know where you came on.
00:28:45
I think I said I like Jared Stidham, But I know what Jared Stidham isn't that I was kind of getting ahead of myself there.
00:28:50
So that Z I'm gonna go ahead and I'm I'm it on live right now that I was wrong there.
00:28:55
But I mean, Cam Newton, I think he's played decent and I'm the bird.
00:28:59
I mean, he's a journeyman, but he's kinda came out there.
00:29:00
He's playing pretty good.
00:29:02
Jacoby MMA.
00:29:03
I was He's gonna be pretty good.
00:29:06
I like I like to see in Jacoby Meyers.
00:29:07
But for the most part, just chuck it all.
00:29:10
I mean, as a fan right now, I'm just evaluating talent.
00:29:13
I want to see what we got in the young guy.
00:29:14
Damon Harris, Jacoby Meyers.
00:29:16
O'Shea winning it.
00:29:17
I want to see um joke.
00:29:18
Juan Williams Williams, J.
00:29:20
C.
00:29:21
J. I want to see the younger guys. Come on, Anthony James.
00:29:23
And so I'm just evaluate telling and I'm already focused on the scouting combine and the draft and free agency I'm done with this year.
00:29:29
I've seen enough of the team, and it's it's been hard to watch.
00:29:33
I've seen enough of the team and home.
00:29:36
I'm just hoping we go what? 5 11? So let's just win two more Game two.
00:29:40
Just militant for a year and get a top 10 pick.
00:29:42
That's what I'm hoping for.
00:29:44
Yeah, Connor and I I think it was last week, Connor that you and I officially wrote off Nikkila.
00:29:49
Harry, we're officially stopped.
00:29:51
We defended Connor and I were fierce defenders of Nikkila Harry, and we couldn't do it anymore.
00:29:56
It was just that he's our I picked him is my biggest disappointment of the season of just what he just wasn't.
00:30:05
Um I'll go to Fidel next, shocked by where the Patriots are.
00:30:11
Is this what you expected out of the Patriots this season? I mean, you were very gracious and nice new when I was on your show, and I don't know what your feelings were on.
00:30:17
It is this is this where you thought they'd be at this point of the season right now? Honestly, I thought with can they would have a winning record.
00:30:25
But again, injuries happened.
00:30:27
Rexburg got hurt.
00:30:29
You know, yesterday, I think he might be out for the year.
00:30:32
There's just a lot of different things going on with the Patriots to kill.
00:30:34
Harry has not panned out. He's been hurt as well.
00:30:36
Um, I thought whenever Cam was signed to the Patriots, like, you know what they might have in okay. Year.
00:30:41
But again, camp was different from all the other years to e.
00:30:46
I believe he came in kind of late to so.
00:30:49
But they just beat Baltimore last week, which I think Baltimore is one of the most overrated teams in the NFL.
00:30:54
So I mean, I am a little bit surprised where they're at.
00:30:57
Um, but we'll see.
00:30:58
And I was actually expecting them to beat the Texans yesterday, so I don't know a question mark on that one. Still, Yeah.
00:31:06
So were we.
00:31:07
You know what? I don't even want Jerry's opinion, so we'll just Jerry, what do you feel about this page.
00:31:15
It seems shocked where they are right now.
00:31:22
Well, the tapes not getting for the last couple of years.
00:31:26
So let me let me go and answer that question.
00:31:28
So I mean, look, I'll tell you this.
00:31:32
When you when I looked at the Patriots, I mean, at one point I was like, Wow, Cam is really the answer of what the Patriots have been looking at for quarterback for a while.
00:31:40
Maybe Tom Brady was one holding back the whole system from evolving to modern day NFL.
00:31:47
And then we see, like weekend week out.
00:31:49
You know, Cam is either, you know, his head is not in the game or it's It's not, you know and Can is making the same mistakes he's trying.
00:31:58
I think when I look at camp, he's pressing too much.
00:32:01
I think this record could actually be a little bit better if Cab would just relax and just go out there and play a ball. Play football.
00:32:08
I mean, e mean if he could just treat it like he was playing in Hamburg, I'm pretty sure, e I mean, we would the Patriots would be taking this division.
00:32:16
Uh, the the the I I believe that I believe the record will be totally different.
00:32:20
And now we're talking about a powerhouse team right here.
00:32:23
So I will say this.
00:32:25
It's very interesting because you got you got the biggest Alfa Dog or Alfa Mel in in sports history with the head coach and Bill Belichick.
00:32:36
So you're gonna need somebody that can somebody that that is an Alfa, like also another Alfa male that understands that Alfa Mills and I'm talking about quarterbacks.
00:32:45
So when you look at Tom Brady, I mean, he was a fiery competitors.
00:32:48
You would go ruffle up his offensive lineman or or his wide receivers when they weren't catching their, uh, we still see them doing that with Tampa Bay, right? But you know, when you need that, it looks like that's what you that looks like.
00:33:00
It's gonna be the actual long term answer at quarterback for the Patriots.
00:33:04
So it's gonna be very interesting.
00:33:05
I know.
00:33:06
I heard you guys talking about What are they gonna do in the off season, man? There's gonna be a very interesting topic.
00:33:10
I mean, what what do the patriots to? You guys have a lot of draft capital on.
00:33:16
You guys got a You guys got a lot of cap.
00:33:19
So I mean, I would I I think that if you're gonna, if you're gonna draft a quarterback, I think this is the year not to play any games because you got you got the Broncos for trigger happy and they will draft a quarterback, e.
00:33:31
I mean, they could steal a good a good potential quarterback out there.
00:33:35
I mean, aside from Trevor Lawrence and and Justin Fields, I mean, you got trade Lance Now, Zach Wilson's in the mix.
00:33:42
And now also Kyler trust I mean, you can't you cannot pass up in the quarterback if you Bill Belichick wants to have success, he needs to find him his that Alfa male quarterback and well, and and And who knows? Next next season's gonna be totally different for the Patriots.
00:33:57
Hey, Ray, Also real quick.
00:33:59
When you look at this division of whole, everyone's gonna have a young quarterback, especially the Jets next year.
00:34:03
They're probably gonna Trevor Lawrence.
00:34:04
So you got to attended by Lower there in Miami, and you have Josh Allen and Buffalo.
00:34:09
So I think it's time for the New England Patriots get a young stud as well.
00:34:12
But when we're saying about the Patriots, right, Thank you.
00:34:15
They were tanking for Trevor Trevor tanking for Trevor E.
00:34:20
I mean, the the East went from sort of the joke of the league Thio.
00:34:25
They're kind of being set up in the near future, being one of the most competitive in the league, depending how you manage now, Yes, you got your young quarterbacks.
00:34:33
But at some point, all those young quarterbacks are gonna cost money.
00:34:36
Now it's gonna be how do you manage your teams and make sure that you're keeping yourself balanced corner? The people have heard you and I wine and cry and complain about the Patriots very much over the last couple of days especially, but I'll throw it to you.
00:34:50
You've heard some different insights, just general thoughts where we are right now.
00:34:55
What we what you think we need to see going forward, I think obviously coming in I was very overly optimistic, but I'm shocked to see that they have a losing record.
00:35:04
I thought at this point they would at least be five and 56 and four, something just to see them have a losing record.
00:35:11
I'm very surprised, and I decided, whatever Bill Belichick decides to do with the quarterback situation I will be happy with.
00:35:18
If he thinks that Cam is the right person for the job next year, that's fine with me.
00:35:22
If he decides to go with the rookie, that's also fine with me.
00:35:25
Um, in Bill we trust.
00:35:29
So if you guys heard our intro were Bill Belichick Fanboys So we will always just believe in anything that Bill Belichick tells us.
00:35:36
Um, obviously I know that not everybody is, uh is on that.
00:35:43
I know.
00:35:44
My boy Nate is not a fan of Bill Belichick as a GM.
00:35:46
I think he's a fan of him as a coach, but not as a GM would like to see the Patriots get a new general manager.
00:35:52
Okay, boys, we got a way, actually, don't have time, but I'm just gonna add some time if you guys air. Okay.
00:35:58
Um, got a couple of questions from the audience here.
00:36:00
I just like to throw out it.
00:36:01
You guys, we can open it up.
00:36:03
Um, so this comes from a lot of them come from our boy and make chicken vlogs.
00:36:09
Make chicken Vlog wants to know Garrett Gilbert or Ben DeNucci.
00:36:14
E Go first on now.
00:36:17
Right? Well, I mean, I'm a Texas employ.
00:36:20
Uh, give me.
00:36:21
Give me Gilbert Gilbert.
00:36:25
I'll take Gilbert to I'll take him.
00:36:29
I'll take Gilbert.
00:36:30
Yeah, way I like his name.
00:36:33
Way saw It was not all Gucci with the Nucci.
00:36:37
I know.
00:36:38
That was a new hashtag that came out so way.
00:36:44
Interesting prospect, to say the least.
00:36:47
Who you got, man, you got the Nucci or you got or Gilbert Gilbert Guilt.
00:36:56
Alright, **** Chicken also wants to know, uh, John Gilbert.
00:37:01
Now he's put this one specifically for Kendall, but I think everybody can can answer this.
00:37:07
He says, What position? About what position should the Patriots target with their first pick in the draft this offseason? Don't do it, Wide receiver.
00:37:21
Oh, my gosh.
00:37:23
Wide receiver.
00:37:27
You want you trust Bill Belichick picking a wide receiver in the first round again? Mhm.
00:37:33
What? It all depends what they're doing.
00:37:36
That quarterback sitio girl you.
00:37:40
So I'm already predicting that Bill Belichick is going to draft an interior defensive lineman in the first round this year.
00:37:46
Thio for, uh Well, they do need.
00:37:53
They do need some defensive back.
00:37:55
I mean, I like taste. Jackson.
00:37:57
I don't I think Stefan Gilmore is already I guess this time is washed up there.
00:38:01
And let me let me ask you this question, guys, is to fund Gilmore.
00:38:06
Still worth the first round draft pick After what we've seen the last couple of weeks.
00:38:10
I always planned on injury right now, but being hurt, having a bit of an off season to start.
00:38:15
I mean, I think going into the trade deadline, he was definitely worth the first.
00:38:19
I think the papers could have got a first.
00:38:21
Do you think they could get a first for him in the off season? If there's a team on the brink of, you know, making the Super Bowl, if they feel like they're only one piece of weight, then at that point, if a team has a draft capital and they feel that they can make a Super Bowl run next year, then why not? That's a tough one for me, man.
00:38:39
I mean, you're you're talking about what is gonna be 32 next year.
00:38:44
Yes.
00:38:45
I think he's gonna be 32.
00:38:46
I mean, I don't see, I don't see anybody giving a first round.
00:38:50
I mean, look how 30.
00:38:51
Wow, next year.
00:38:55
So So I was asking what, c h next year, But I'm just saying, overall, when you look at it, his game is not where you know where it was a year or two or three years ago, So I mean, I'm not saying it zn friend, because look at it, Xavier Rhodes.
00:39:13
Everybody wrote him off, right? Saying that that they write him off, right? They said, That's it.
00:39:18
His career is washed up.
00:39:20
We'll look at him.
00:39:21
He's probably one of the best corners right on the game, playing for the for the Indianapolis Colts.
00:39:24
So I mean, e, I want not to count that out.
00:39:28
But I will tell you this.
00:39:29
It looks like a lot of teams were game very stingy with that first round pick.
00:39:33
And they're not gonna They're not gonna give it to.
00:39:34
Somebody's gonna be 31 years old.
00:39:37
They are in the cornerback.
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Market has been very strange lately to outside of Jalen Ramsey.
00:39:42
We're not seeing a lot of big contracts that cornerback you.
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What? I mean, like, it's that used to be one of the ***y positions on defense, and they're almost becoming diamond, doesn't there? Almost becoming the running back of the defense.
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Now, you know what I mean? Like everybody confined one.
00:39:57
Okay, last question.
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Here it is a Patriots question, but I'd love to get everybody's opinion on it.
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This comes from our friend of the show, Joe, over on Facebook.
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Should the Patriots have Harry add 15 to £20 and convert a move to tight end? Why not e? Yeah, I just just so you know, that's corner like that's not an act like that's why not.
00:40:23
Let's just do it just Well, gentlemen, um, thank you so much for coming on before we go.
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Why don't you let our audience know where they confined you? I'm a big fan of your guys show.
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Um, you guys air? Like I said, you're now I've got all the stars coming on weekend and week out.
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And, uh but why don't you everybody know where they confined you where they can follow you all that kind of stuff? East West football podcast on Facebook.
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Instagram Twitter is gonna b e sports one and we're on YouTube East west football network.
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And then also we have weekly shows with the coach Hue Jackson numbers over Sunday morning kickoff.
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We have a lot of college football coverage is well on Saturdays in the huddle with Hayden.
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At some point in time, boys, we're going to sit down and you're gonna tell me how I could get a guy like you Jackson to come on our show.
00:41:24
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