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00:00:02
Welcome to SportsCastr News Monday Night Football edition Week 11.
00:00:09
We're talking about a football game.
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Which one? I don't know.
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Let's let's just pick two teams out of a hat.
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No, I'm sorry.
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We have toe choose the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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We all have to choose this other team that that is also ah, wildcard team at the moment, which is the Rams, which I didn't expect.
00:00:33
Honestly, I mean, I think raided.
00:00:36
Um, but this game here is gonna have huge playoff implications coming up down the road between these two teams with their records right now and being both teams being second in their division, Ray.
00:00:50
But before we get into that Joe Burrow with the tour a c l m C l.
00:00:56
And he has just been reported that they fully expect him to return by the beginning of 2021.
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But most likely, I mean, I don't know how this off season is going to go with the whole, uh, Kobe situation still going along.
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I don't know if they're gonna they'll probably being that they're doing practices and stuff.
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They'll probably do have the o.
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T. A s and stuff like that.
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Just with the same kind of stuff, but that they're going on right now.
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But, uh, one of these things that take so long to heal up Hey, probably won't be throwing the football around with his teammates until probably late.
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Maybe even pre season.
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What do you think? Yeah, I mean, they're talking about earlier.
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They're talking about, you know, 20.
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They'll be ready for 2021 does. I mean, he'll be ready.
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Week one.
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Does that mean he'll be ready O t a s.
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That.
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That's a whole lot of questions to ask.
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I'll put it.
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I will say this, though.
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I mean, for the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Even when things are going right, they go wrong.
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Um, I mean, if it was gonna happen, anybody was gonna happen to Joe Burrow on Lee because of the organization that he plays for.
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And I'm not saying I don't blame the Cincinnati Bengals for what happened.
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It was an unfortunate hit.
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Um ah, high low hit should have been a flag on the play.
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By the way, you can't hit a quarterback high and low.
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This is the reason you can't hit a quarterback high and low because this is what happens when you had to do a high low hit.
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You lose the number one overall draft pick.
00:02:24
What does that mean for the Cincinnati Bengals this season? Absolutely. Bupkis.
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Nothing.
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It actually probably puts them in a better position to lose more games and get a better pick and keep building on this team where it hurts them.
00:02:36
Going forward is they wanted Joe Burrow to get his many snaps.
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Is he could this season.
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They wanted him to throw the ball with his teammates as much as they he could this season.
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And unfortunately, he's gonna miss the next six games because of it and not be able to continue to get those snaps.
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What would have been ideal situation for Joe Burrow is you play this out this whole season.
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You show up toe O.
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T A s.
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You play training camp, you get into the preseason, you probably play him a little bit more.
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Then you would play a veteran quarterback to let him get snaps, Let him get in rhythm, and really, I would have to assume with their high draft pick, they're going to take one of the top offensive linemen in the league.
00:03:14
I mean, how could you not? And now they're in a situation where I mean, if this team was in it, you don't have Joe Mix and you don't have Joe Burrow.
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It's, you know, like I said, even when things go right, they go wrong For the Bengals A.
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J.
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Green, who knows what's gonna happen with him next season? So you might have Joe Burrow trying to get some sort of relationship and acclamation with the new wide receiver and not have the time to get into place.
00:03:40
I'm not saying that this kid's career is over, but I'm saying there's a big setback not just for Joe Burrow, but a big setback for this organization.
00:03:48
Uh, that timeline seems like an awful short turnaround, because I was reading them from Adam Schefter.
00:03:55
Today.
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It's an A C L M C, l and structural damage to the knee.
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That's beyond just in a c l M c l repair.
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You're talking structural damage.
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We are at the end of November.
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We're in Thanksgiving week.
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Now.
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This is when they say football season really starts for the competitors, the competitive teams.
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I mean, you're you're talking about nine months to get back on the field and be in football shape.
00:04:18
Lawrence, I'm gonna take a hot take right now.
00:04:20
I don't think we see Joe Burrow Week one for the Cincinnati Bengals next season.
00:04:25
That Z I don't know how hard of a take that is.
00:04:29
I mean, uh, even if he's healthy by then, he might not have had enough snaps to go out there and do that.
00:04:35
You know, I could I could very well see him taking his first snaps while preseason games are going.
00:04:42
And if that happens, you don't want to start a guy cold, you know? So, yeah, I completely see your point of view on that.
00:04:51
Um, last night, Sunday night football Raiders chiefs did you get Did you get a chance to watch that game? I watched the enough of that game.
00:05:02
I would say I watched I was back and forth between that game and something else I was taking care of last night.
00:05:07
Dheepan commentary always gets in the way of Sunday Night football as well.
00:05:10
So it's a stop and start.
00:05:12
I watched the end of the game, which is probably the most important part, and I'm finding now that the NFL is very much like the N B A.
00:05:20
You only have to watch the last three minutes, and you basically got the whole game in front of you.
00:05:25
Uh, listen, where we was there, if there was an argument left by anybody that Patrick Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the NFL right now last night prove that he is, Um, I don't care if he has Tyree kill and, you know, in Travis Kelsey, I think you could give him the Patriots receivers and he'd still have a 4000 yards season.
00:05:50
And and I'm not knocking Cam Newton.
00:05:53
But But Patrick Mahomes is just one of those guys.
00:05:55
He's the Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady, the Aaron Rodgers of his era.
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And he's phenomenal and he's gonna break a bunch of records, and he looks like he's not slowing down.
00:06:05
And I think Andy Reid, is that it perfect, he said.
00:06:08
I don't sweat close games.
00:06:10
I have Patrick Mahomes, and when your head coach has that kind of faith in you, not just because I don't think Andy Reid just says that.
00:06:18
I think Andy Reid is being the Andy Reid's, A straight up guy.
00:06:21
He means that when your coach is just sitting there like it's okay, we have Patrick Mahomes.
00:06:26
It reminds me of Watch Mike up of Super Bowl 51 Patriots and in Atlanta, and you got players on the sidelines.
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Defensive players.
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Running backs is going.
00:06:38
We got Tom Brady.
00:06:39
It doesn't matter. We got Tom Brady. It's okay.
00:06:41
Uh, that's what Patrick Mahomes brings to the Kansas City Chiefs.
00:06:45
And I would dare say they could be down 28 to 3 going, you know, close to the fourth quarter in a Super Bowl.
00:06:51
And I think Andy Reid would have just as much confidence that Patrick Mahomes could bring them back the same way that Tom Brady did.
00:06:57
Yeah, I mean, a minute 43.
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I feel like the Raiders could have probably, uh, they had a few downs left.
00:07:06
But the problem was, is that there was a bunch of penalties on that drive that the Raiders took to score at the end and leave a minute 43 left for Patrick Mahomes.
00:07:19
If it wasn't for that, I feel like they would have killed some clock, but it was it was one of those situations I need to score now while I have a chance.
00:07:27
Because who knows if somebody might get a holding call or false start or something of that nature? Because, I mean, look at the Colts game.
00:07:36
The Colts had it well, in the bag of the next thing you know, holding, holding, holding what it was like they wanted something else to happen.
00:07:44
The rest did.
00:07:45
Um, not that I'm saying that they weren't holding on on those calls.
00:07:49
Every one of those calls that was holding on them.
00:07:51
I'm just saying that sometimes penalties shouldn't be called.
00:07:55
Sometimes they should be called.
00:07:57
Um, well, but no Patrick Mahomes, man.
00:08:01
Wow, You're right.
00:08:02
I mean, when it comes to certain players, I'm gonna just remind everybody that in the A F C Championship game two years ago, the New England Patriots made it 31 to 28 with 39 seconds left in the game.
00:08:22
39 skins.
00:08:23
I was already I had the cigarette in my hand ready to go out and light it and celebrate the A F C Championship game on Lito watch.
00:08:29
Patrick Mahomes, with 39 seconds left in the game, marched down the field and set his team up for an over for a field goal and goto overtime.
00:08:38
Now the Patriots won it.
00:08:40
Mahomes never got on the field, but you can't give the guy 39 seconds.
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You can't give him a minute.
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45 or a minute.
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43 Thio finish his last drive.
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That's that's all the time.
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You know here in Canada with the CFL, and we always say one minute is actually two minutes because they stopped the clock on every play.
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Right now, they'll start it back up.
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But by the time they started back up, you're already lined up and you could snap the ball and not lose a second.
00:09:04
So a minute left in the game is like having 10 timeouts right, and you can march down the field a minute.
00:09:10
43 to Patrick Mahomes is like having 34 minutes left in the game. He can.
00:09:14
He can execute that field and move it and spike that ball.
00:09:17
And the thing about this Chiefs team, this isn't just on the home.
00:09:20
This is the players they have.
00:09:22
They could get 40 50 yards on you in one play and now Suddenly it's a minute 30 left and they're already on your 30 yard line.
00:09:29
Yeah, the foot, the script.
00:09:32
I think that the Raiders, I think they're a team to be reckoned with.
00:09:36
I think they have officially, I mean, this was a game that was close the entire night.
00:09:42
I mean, it was back and forth the entire night.
00:09:45
It was a dog fight between Patrick Mahomes and Derek Carr, and it was a beautiful dog fight.
00:09:51
And it's weird to say Derek Carr was having a dogfight with Patrick Mahomes.
00:09:57
But, I mean, the Raiders already beat the Chiefs once this year, and then they almost beat them again on Sunday Night football.
00:10:07
And I'm just watching this game going.
00:10:09
Even with this loss, it does not lesson my opinion on what the Raiders air doing this season and what they're capable of going on into the future.
00:10:21
What are your thoughts on the Raiders right now? They ran into Patrick Mahomes last night.
00:10:25
That's that's all that happened.
00:10:26
I absolutely this team.
00:10:29
I mean, I'm gonna tip my hat.
00:10:30
I didn't think Derek Carr had it in him, and I was very critical and I thought I said.
00:10:34
The Raiders are a good team, and it's gonna be wasted by having the coach who's out of touch and having a quarterback who's just not that good.
00:10:41
And the coach has been brilliant this year, and the quarterback has.
00:10:44
I'm not gonna say that Derek Carr has been brilliant, but he's been steady and consistent, and that's what will help you win football games.
00:10:51
Um, no, I don't count them out, either.
00:10:54
They ran into it and you know it's funny.
00:10:56
A win last night would have really made that division interesting, because you could say, Well, that she's still have a game in hand.
00:11:02
But Las Vegas would have had all the tie breakers, and now that now at nine and to the Chiefs look like they got a pretty or nine and 19 and one or nine.
00:11:13
It's nine and one, right? They they've got a pretty They've got a pretty good, steady run.
00:11:21
Um oh, sorry about this.
00:11:24
One second, I clicked on a Web site to grab some stats, and all of a sudden someone was talking to my ear and I had no idea was Julian Edelman.
00:11:33
I had no idea what was going on.
00:11:36
I apologize for that delay.
00:11:37
Guys, I just freaked me out.
00:11:38
I was with I thought, I'm on ESPN.
00:11:43
I thought somebody had, but it was a delay.
00:11:46
That was a big delay.
00:11:47
Sorry. So I apologize.
00:11:48
That's I freaked out.
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I thought someone had entered our stream and I was like, I was looking for Joe, to be honest with, but no, no, they ran into patrimony.
00:11:58
They're good, but that if they would have one last night, I mean, that Chief's defense, the suspect man.
00:12:05
And I'll tell you one thing, Lawrence.
00:12:07
I learned that as a Patriots fan, I know you learned it as a Colts fan behind Peyton Manning.
00:12:12
Sometimes even having Tom Brady and Peyton Manning isn't enough to win football games when your defense can't keep you in the game, you know in the playoff, especially in the playoffs.
00:12:22
And how many early exits that we see out of Indianapolis in big score games where you know Peyton didn't get last touch, you know the defense didn't give him last possession.
00:12:33
That gave the other team last possession, and that's what what? What hurts them? And I've seen it happen with Tom Brady.
00:12:39
I've seen the defense completely.
00:12:41
Let him down.
00:12:42
Now the team he's playing tonight.
00:12:44
I saw the defense win him a championship, and we'll get into that in a minute.
00:12:47
But that chief's defense, they got it together going into last year's playoffs.
00:12:52
And I think a lot of Chiefs fans are optimistic they got it together.
00:12:55
But I'm gonna remind Chiefs fans they already had it together by week 11 last year.
00:13:00
This, you know, they already had it together.
00:13:03
They haven't got it together, and they looked as good as the Raiders look last night.
00:13:06
The chief's defense look bad.
00:13:07
And that division, if the Raiders could have pulled that off that division, would've got very interesting because I expect Kansas City to lose again somewhere down the line.
00:13:16
Yeah, the thing is, is I expect the Steelers toe lose at least one game this season.
00:13:24
I get that they're 10 and no.
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But there's a reason why there's no chatter about the Steelers running for an undefeated season because the Steelers have looked vulnerable.
00:13:35
In nearly every game that you've watched, they look like, Hey, this is a beatable team.
00:13:41
It's just it seems like every game.
00:13:43
Things go just right for them and they end up winning now.
00:13:47
I'm not saying they're not a great team.
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They are a great team with Ben Roethlisberger sitting back there with that, that aggressive blitz, happy defense.
00:13:55
They are a very, very good, tough team and a tough out.
00:13:58
But I think that I just I honestly thought that they had a shot at losing a game, and it was a chance that Kansas City could overtake that that top spot in the in the sea.
00:14:10
It still, it still can't happen now that the Chiefs won.
00:14:13
So who do you have? Who do you think is going to win the A F.
00:14:19
C? Do you think the Steelers went out, Or do you think that Kansas City wins out what's going on in that situation? And as we do that, I'm gonna go ahead and bring Joe New Bow into the stream.
00:14:30
But go ahead and talk about that.
00:14:32
Apologies for being late, fellas.
00:14:34
I was going through a therapy session after yesterday's abomination of a game, so I understand, all right, so I'm giving Ray the floor on who we think is going to take the top seed in the A f C.
00:14:47
Whether it's gonna be the current undefeated Steelers or if we believe that they might falter later on in Kansas City. Might take it.
00:14:55
Or somebody else possibly. Ray.
00:14:57
Well, I mean, first of all, before I even give you that answer.
00:15:00
I wanna look at the contrast of the NFL, and this is why I love the NFL.
00:15:03
Don't get me wrong.
00:15:04
This is why I love football, because you talk about a Steelers team and you're absolutely right.
00:15:08
Everything that could possibly go right for them has gone right.
00:15:11
You, too, And they're 10.
00:15:13
And no, You take a team like the New England Patriots, where everything that could possibly go wrong goes wrong.
00:15:18
Quarterback gets Cove.
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It a bad fumble.
00:15:21
You know, a missed wide receiver and they're now out of the playoffs, right? And it's really in every game.
00:15:27
You could go for the every Steelers win.
00:15:29
You can probably put down two or three plays that made them win.
00:15:32
And with the Patriots, it's two or three plays that made them lose.
00:15:36
Saying that good teams win, bad teams lose.
00:15:38
And I'm not saying the Patriots or a bad team, but I'm not saying they're a great team.
00:15:42
And sometimes to be good, you have to be lucky.
00:15:45
Lucky things happen when you're there.
00:15:47
You know, I go back to that Patriots Baltimore game last season.
00:15:51
Not this season, but that Patriot Baltimore game last season.
00:15:53
I'm not saying Baltimore didn't win that game deservingly, but I'm saying If Julian Edelman doesn't fumble that football and the Patriots take the lead to start the second half, it doesn't change that game.
00:16:03
Instead, it's a fumble.
00:16:04
It's a scoop and score, and now it's a two score game again, and that basically seals the deal right.
00:16:08
One play can change the whole dynamic of a game.
00:16:11
That being said, Corner and I actually went through this and we have both Pittsburgh and Kansas City finishing at 14 and to, and we gave the loss.
00:16:26
I'm just trying to see where we gave a loss to Baltimore and a loss to Buffalo for the Steelers, and even with what I saw out of ah, out of Baltimore.
00:16:39
But that's who.
00:16:40
We got them losing two and we have Kansas City losing the Tampa Bay next week and we have them losing, too.
00:16:51
That's it.
00:16:52
That's it s or that's it.
00:16:54
So I think by now it comes down to tie breakers and we didn't I think when we went, we know we did.
00:17:01
We were too lazy to go and figure out the tie breaker.
00:17:03
Who wins the division? But we have them both finishing 14.
00:17:05
And to now it's gonna go down to the A F C record first, and I believe that that record would go to Who did the Chiefs lose? Two.
00:17:17
They thio lost to the Raiders and then OK, then we have them losing the Tampa's.
00:17:22
I'd actually go to the Chiefs because they're on the A F C loss would be the Raiders, and we have the Pittsburgh Steelers losing two games in the A F.
00:17:29
C.
00:17:30
So the Chiefs would have a better A f C record.
00:17:31
So I got the Chiefs winning the A F C this year.
00:17:33
Your thoughts, Joe, I'm the same.
00:17:37
I'm looking at these schedules.
00:17:39
Um, and I would say for the Steelers side they have three games that are kind of like they could lose them right, Whereas the Chiefs, they only have, in my opinion, one game that I think they could lose the rest of the season.
00:17:52
And it is to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and even that one they could win.
00:17:56
So, um, the other game is obviously against the Saints.
00:17:59
But we don't know if Drew Brees is gonna be healthy by then.
00:18:02
Probably not.
00:18:03
So they're either gonna be starting Taysom Hill.
00:18:04
Er, Jameis Winston.
00:18:05
I really don't like their chances to outscore the Chiefs there, so yeah, I think the Chiefs probably only lose one more game if even the rest of the season.
00:18:13
Whereas the Steelers, um, there's three remaining games that are gonna be tough for them.
00:18:18
And, you know, we're gonna see if they can actually come through, like, of course, Thanksgiving night.
00:18:25
As we already know.
00:18:26
Um, Ravens, obviously very down, not looking very good, but it's still a divisional matchup.
00:18:32
You know, we did a pretty good job.
00:18:35
Uh, we should have beaten them.
00:18:36
Last time we played, we didn't because of the turnovers, but that could be a loss for them.
00:18:41
That could be their first loss of the season.
00:18:43
They also have Buffalo Bills in Buffalo.
00:18:45
Very tough game.
00:18:47
You know, if Josh Allen plays well and the Colts, so there's three games that the Steelers could absolutely lose.
00:18:54
Whereas I really only see one game, potentially, that the Chiefs could really drop here.
00:19:00
So, yeah, I think that I also have the Chiefs getting the number one seed in the A F.
00:19:04
C and Lawrence.
00:19:05
Just so you know, we really debated the indie game like we really went back and forth and just and I can't remember our reasoning.
00:19:14
But it was a hair that we gave it Thio, that we gave it to Pittsburgh and both said, that could be a very lose a ball game for because I have a star beside Indy.
00:19:22
So it's I know it was something we debated.
00:19:24
E wish I would have wrote notes to be honest with its fine.
00:19:28
I am so used to people, and I'm not saying you're doing this, But Nick right is awful with the Indianapolis Colts.
00:19:36
I mean, awful, he says.
00:19:39
He said, like two days ago, there is no possible way in D Beach, Green Bay.
00:19:44
Nick is an idiot.
00:19:45
And then and then and then when he cheated on, and then when the Colts won against Green Bay, he said.
00:19:53
Green Bay shot themselves in the foot and gave the game away.
00:19:55
And, oh, yeah, it's a dance in the world that indeed does anything in the playoffs because Philip Rivers and Philip River listen, the Chargers, we're gonna knock the Patriots out of the playoffs and then the dynasty.
00:20:06
Okay, They luckily got by the Chargers.
00:20:08
I think the Patriots blew them out like 42 15 Theun.
00:20:12
It was.
00:20:13
Oh, they're not. They don't have a chance with the Chiefs.
00:20:15
Patrick Mahomes is going to score 28 points in the first half.
00:20:17
You got shut out in the first half.
00:20:19
Oh, well, the Patriots won the coin toss in overtime.
00:20:22
That's what they want, but they have no chance against Aaron Donald on the Rams.
00:20:25
Um, Jared Goff in that offense, they're gonna just put points up all day.
00:20:28
They scored three points, right? The Patriots won 13 to 3.
00:20:31
So, Nick, right? If if you're at all in competition with with his precious Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes or or Aaron Rodgers, he's just he's just a ****.
00:20:43
Forget or LeBron James. He's an idiot.
00:20:46
Let him be alright.
00:20:48
So let's Let's go ahead and get into tonight's game.
00:20:51
Like I said, I mean, this is a game between two second seed teams in their division, right, that they're not even leading their divisions.
00:21:01
Neither one of them are this.
00:21:02
This has playoff implications, the loser of this game.
00:21:06
There's a possibility they don't make the playoffs.
00:21:08
And they're both sitting, uh, in second place in their division, right behind the leaders of Seattle.
00:21:16
And, uh, but New Orleans, New Orleans almost said Green Bay.
00:21:23
I was like, What? The world of my thinking? Um, but yeah, I mean, and this is a game where you got Tampa Bay with all that firepower.
00:21:34
And yet they're only middle of the pack when it comes to, like, yardage wise, uh, on their team like middle of the pack offense.
00:21:43
But their defense is stellar.
00:21:45
And then you got the Rams, who its top five in both offense and defense when it comes to yardage wise.
00:21:55
What are you expecting from this game? Right.
00:21:57
Very low scoring game, to be honest with you.
00:22:01
Um, listen, if Drew Brees gets healthy and Taysom Hill continues to perform the way he performed last week, there might be some debate in New Orleans about who's the starting quarterback come playoff time because I'm having a very different conversation with you boys.
00:22:20
And I did yesterday morning when I just basically wrote off the New Orleans Saints.
00:22:24
Good for Taysom Hill.
00:22:26
You know, um, I did go back and watch that game.
00:22:30
He played good.
00:22:31
I mean, I don't not going to sit and say it's played spectacular, but he played good and in New Orleans look good.
00:22:38
Tampa Bay needs to win this game.
00:22:40
Tampa Bay could find themselves.
00:22:42
They've already lost to New Orleans twice.
00:22:44
That's it.
00:22:45
Every tiebreaker in every scenario goes to the New Orleans Saints.
00:22:49
Uh, I just don't think it's gonna happen tonight for Tampa.
00:22:53
Unfortunately, I think that I watched Tom Brady versus this defense in Aaron Donald and I watched the New England Patriots offense that was pretty prolific that year scored 13 points in a Super Bowl, where they somehow strangely gave a wide receiver M V P instead of a defensive player when they let up only three points.
00:23:16
What you're going to see tonight is reminiscence of what we saw in the second half of yesterday's Indianapolis Green Bay game because once indie adjusted their defense, they were all over Aaron Rodgers.
00:23:35
The on leeway Tampa Bay wins this game is if Bruce Arians finally pulls his head out of his ass.
00:23:41
And let's Tom Brady play the football that Tom Brady likes to play because he needs to get rid of that ball quickly.
00:23:48
And if Bruce Arians wants chunk yards, those 15 2025 yard plays that he's making Brady throw this offensive line is not gonna be able to handle the Rams.
00:23:58
So if Tampa can play the offensive, Brady knows like that runs proficiently.
00:24:04
Then I'll change my mind.
00:24:05
I'll say Tampa will win, but if he wants those trunk yards and he wants them, if Mike Evans is open all game and he wants to toss it down the field of Mike Evans, they're gonna be in a lot of trouble because that's a good secondary to that that they're going up against.
00:24:17
I'd be running the football if I was if I was Tampa and setting up play action.
00:24:23
Well, Joe, do you trust Jared golf against this Tampa defense, though, it's gonna be Jared Goff versus Tom Brady to the sequel.
00:24:33
But is it gonna be better than the original? Probably because 13 and three was just I'm sorry, but I know you say it was a defensive battle, but Jesus Christ.
00:24:42
Okay, so both of these teams, I think, in my opinion, I'm kind of looking at everything.
00:24:49
And I think that the Bucks have their backs up against the wall a little more than the Rams do here.
00:24:54
The Rams, While they are still competing with the Seahawks for the division, they do have a game on them.
00:25:00
Whereas, like you said, Ray, the Bucks have lost twice to the Saints.
00:25:03
They don't have a game on the Saints.
00:25:05
They can't afford to lose any more.
00:25:06
And who is the best in that scenario? It's Tom Brady, right? He's always been like that when his backs against the wall when you know you need to make a push for the playoffs is Tom Brady.
00:25:16
Tampa Bay Bucks.
00:25:17
They're coming off a huge win against the Panthers, the Rams air coming off a huge win off the Seahawks.
00:25:22
I could see the Rams having a little bit of a letdown game here, and maybe they're, you know, taking their foot off the gas a little bit there like they're feeling high on themselves.
00:25:30
We just beat the Seahawks.
00:25:32
Um, I think the bucks have more to lose here.
00:25:36
Therefore, I think that they're going to come through here and I know you know the Rams have Aaron Donald.
00:25:41
They have Jalen Ramsey.
00:25:42
They got a good defense, and I like the Rams.
00:25:45
I like Sean McVeigh and all that, but I think that the Bucks defense, we're going to see them show up here because they've had some good games and they've had some bad games, Right? So I think this is gonna be a good game from the Tampa Bay Bucks.
00:25:58
I think they're gonna be getting to Jared Goff.
00:26:00
And I do.
00:26:01
I do like the bucks here because, like I said, I think that their backs arm or up against the wall than the Rams are.
00:26:08
So now I will throw a counterpoint to you.
00:26:11
Okay.
00:26:12
And somehow, over the last two weeks, maybe even three weeks, I've somehow had to become a Tom Brady defender, which bothers me because I just wanted to rip on him all season.
00:26:20
But the idiocy of Twitter has forced me to defend Tom Brady as it does.
00:26:26
You're absolutely right, Joe.
00:26:27
This is a moment that we've seen time and time again.
00:26:30
Where Tom Brady, when everything's on the line, he performs.
00:26:33
And I don't doubt that Tom Brady is not gonna perform tonight.
00:26:36
There's a big difference going into this game, though.
00:26:40
He doesn't have Bill Belichick on that sideline that realizes, Let's do what we do Well, right? That's what Belichick's whole thing is.
00:26:48
Let's do what we do well, don't try to do something that we don't do well or that we're still working on and this type of game we do what we do well.
00:26:57
Bruce Arians is still trying to force an offensive scheme down Tom Brady's throat that he hasn't been able to execute since 2000 and seven, when he had Randy Moss.
00:27:10
And my argument is, it won't be if they lose today because of the offense.
00:27:14
I'm not.
00:27:15
It won't be on Tom Brady.
00:27:17
It will be because Bruce Arians can't figure out I have one of the greatest proficient quarterbacks in the league.
00:27:23
During the tight ends, running backs and slot receivers let him throw two running backs, tight ends and slot receivers.
00:27:30
Tom Brady should be throwing the ball seven yards, six yards down the field, not taking these 15, 20 yards shots every second or third pass.
00:27:38
That's the problem.
00:27:39
Bruce Area.
00:27:40
You know, this is where and look.
00:27:42
This is where I forget the Patriots for second. Just look at Bill Belichick.
00:27:45
This is where I look at Bill Belichick.
00:27:47
I heard him talking about Cam Newton this year and he said, You know, we of course, we tailor our offense to Cam Newton the same way that we did to Tom.
00:27:54
We're not gonna make Cam Newton run Tom Brady's offense.
00:27:57
It just doesn't work that way.
00:27:58
Bruce Arians is trying to run the James Winston offense with Tom Brady, and it's just There's something about it that's not working.
00:28:06
You can see it. It's not.
00:28:08
I've never seen Brady not be crisp.
00:28:12
I guess it's we'll call it.
00:28:13
Even in his bad games.
00:28:14
They're still a bit of a rhythm there.
00:28:16
You could just see Tampa Bay fall out of rhythm.
00:28:18
They can look really great and then just fall out of rhythm out of nowhere and be out a rhythm for two quarters before they start getting it back.
00:28:25
That's my concern.
00:28:26
I will never put this on on Tom Brady.
00:28:28
I would put this on Bruce Arians.
00:28:29
If they lose tonight, my biggest issue and I get where you're coming from, Joe on the whole back to the wall thing.
00:28:37
I get that because if they do lose, that spills, uh, scary situation for them not making the playoffs.
00:28:45
However, however, when this Tampa offense goes up against a well coached, disciplined defense, they do not perform well.
00:28:58
I have noticed that, yes, this team scored 38 45 points against teams, but it's teams like the the Giants, the Raiders.
00:29:10
We just got that talking about the Raiders.
00:29:13
But at the time, Um, let's forget at the time the Raiders defense ain't great.
00:29:18
Ain't, like Superb.
00:29:20
Um, the Panthers.
00:29:22
Yeah, they They put a big points against Green Bay Packers, though.
00:29:29
Yes, the Packers defense's can be questionable at times, though the Packers ain't a really good defense.
00:29:37
They have a decent pass defense and they're run.
00:29:39
Defense is awful.
00:29:41
The run defense is awful.
00:29:43
Now, when you look at like the Bears and the three losses they've got, You know, the Bears and the two Saints game.
00:29:51
Those air defense is that got after Tom Brady made him hurry.
00:29:55
His throws made him incredibly uncomfortable.
00:29:57
I think this is a game that you're going to see, Ah, lot of similar situations with the Rams doing the exact same thing.
00:30:03
I think what we're looking at two is you're looking at a Rams defense that is a top five in every single category.
00:30:09
In fact, there top four in every category but rushing yards and you've got a Tampa Bay offense that's 15th and yards per game, 21st in the rush, their ninth and passing 15 points.
00:30:21
You know, on the 15th and third down percentage is, but on the flip side, you've got a buck's defense.
00:30:27
That's a top 10 and everything but third down percentage, their fourth in yards per ninth and passing second in rushing defense, ninth in points per game.
00:30:36
Eso you've got to.
00:30:37
That's why I think we are going to see a defensive battle between these two teams today, and and I think this is going to come down to Who's the better coach Sean McVeigh or Bruce Arians? Yeah, no That's a great point.
00:30:51
I was actually gonna bring that up that I think whoever coaches better will probably end up winning this game.
00:30:57
Um, I for some reason.
00:30:59
And maybe I'm crazy doing this.
00:31:00
I'm gonna put my faith in a Bruce Areas that he's actually going to get his head out of his ass.
00:31:04
Like you said Ray and say, you know what? Maybe I need to stop playing like we have Jamis Winston, we have Tom Brady.
00:31:10
Let's just throw the slot receivers, throw the Gronk, make him feel comfortable.
00:31:15
Um, but again, I don't know, because of Bruce Arians gets into himself.
00:31:20
He you know, it could be trouble for this Bucks team and, uh, you know, probably end up as a loss, but I'm still gonna roll with the bucks.
00:31:27
I get what you guys were saying, but I just think that I I can't see a scenario that Tom Brady knows that he needs to needs a win, and he just comes up short and again.
00:31:37
So, I mean, they're not fighting for a playoff spot right now.
00:31:39
They're very comfortably in a wild card spot.
00:31:41
But you're talking about going on the road basically from the whole playoffs.
00:31:46
Exactly.
00:31:47
So what are the odds makers gonna put toe where? At some point in this game, Tom Brady is going to go? Can't hear you working off.
00:31:59
I'll call it in the huddle a little.
00:32:03
Call it. We're good.
00:32:04
Yeah.
00:32:05
No, I mean and that's, you know, listen, one thing that Josh McDaniels did very well to was new When to give the game to Brady.
00:32:12
Like when they went No huddle.
00:32:13
There was no pre called plays.
00:32:14
Brady called it on the line.
00:32:16
He looked at the defense.
00:32:17
He looked at the pre snap and he called it on the line.
00:32:19
And that's why a Patriots no huddle offense wasn't a quick offense.
00:32:23
It was just to the line quick, but they could stand there for 15 seconds because Brady would be looking at the defense surveying.
00:32:28
Here's what we're gonna call on.
00:32:30
I think at some point you need you have Tom Brady.
00:32:33
I'm gonna see you have Tom Brady.
00:32:36
Let him be Tom Brady.
00:32:37
You know what? He doesn't have the arm to throw it 40 yards every play, but he has the He has the mind toe.
00:32:44
Look at a defense and go with that offensive quarter.
00:32:47
They haven't be like, You know what, boys? I know exactly how to pick this team apart, you know, And five and six yard on the death get YAC yards.
00:32:54
You know, let let the guys run with the football.
00:32:57
It's And that's what Bruce Arians needs to do.
00:33:00
He needs suggest he needs to get back to basics here and and win football games because yeah, ah, loss.
00:33:05
Today, the division is out and they might be going on the road and playing Philadelphia.
00:33:09
You know, the only say in Philadelphia, the only saving grace to keep Tampa Bay in the playoffs with a loss today is the fact that the leader of the NFC has three wins or NFC East has three wins.
00:33:24
Yeah, I don't think they're fighting for a playoff spot today.
00:33:25
I think they're pretty secure, but it'll put them in the wild card, right.
00:33:28
It will be on the road for the rest with on.
00:33:31
You don't wanna be, do you don't wanna You don't want that if you're Tampa Bay because you could end up Listen, I don't care what you how the NFC finishes.
00:33:40
I don't care how bad the teams were playing.
00:33:42
Once playoff time comes, anybody, the worst team can win.
00:33:46
The Giants went to two Super Bowls in two years that they probably shouldn't have.
00:33:51
And I don't want to go to Philadelphia in the playoffs.
00:33:54
Even if there are five win team, I just don't want to do it.
00:33:56
You know, like it's there's just certain things.
00:33:59
And Philadelphia is also a thorn in Tom Brady side because I think I don't I think since he beat them in the Super Bowl, I don't think he has another win against Philly.
00:34:08
I mean, the Giants are three and seven and can legitimately be in the playoffs this year.
00:34:12
Okay, so he's not Write him off again on listen.
00:34:16
That's not a team that Brady would want to face in the playoffs.
00:34:20
A.
00:34:21
He's got bad history against the Giants be.
00:34:24
There's a guy who coaches that team who knows Tom Brady pretty well.
00:34:28
You know, that's a guy who's seen Tom Brady a couple of times, so it's Yeah, I know if I'm them, this is a must win for Tampa in the same way it is for the Rams, who I think still, you know, are still in a good position to make the playoffs.
00:34:39
But, you know, you don't wanna have to visit New Orleans in Seattle, right? You want to try to have the home field advantage bring them out to California to I mean, playing an empty stadium is the way you play anyway, so you're used to it.
00:34:50
You don't wanna have to go and go on the road, and especially for them.
00:34:55
I mean, you don't have to go to the East Coast, right? You don't want to.
00:34:58
You know, that's where you don't want that time that that time change, right? It's a really, really interesting dynamic.
00:35:05
It's it's kind of funny when you break it down.
00:35:07
Okay, I want your guy's opinion on this.
00:35:08
Like I look at the A F C and think even like the four and six Patriots would be competing in the NFC right now.
00:35:16
You know, like if you could take all our bottom, not are bottom feeders, but all the A F C teams who are out of the playoff picture put them over in the NFC and they'd all be fighting for a playoff spot right now? Yeah, E said not not the bottom feeder is not the not little but middling teams.
00:35:36
And, you know, and it's been a while that because the the NFC was the dominant division for a while, a long time there.
00:35:43
And now it seems that the A f C is really all the way around when you look at I mean, when you look at a struggling Baltimore, I'd put them up against any NFC team there.
00:35:51
You know what I mean? I mean, okay, you're gonna struggle against Green Bay and, like, every team will know what I mean in New Orleans.
00:35:57
And but there's only a few teams that you really put, you know that you say Okay, could get the best of Baltimore.
00:36:02
Otherwise they would run that they would run all over that conference.
00:36:06
Yet in the A f. C.
00:36:07
They're going up against a team after team after team, even four and six teams that are beating them, right, because I think the whole division is good.
00:36:15
Well, I mean, to put it in perspective, to put it in perspective, the A F C South paste, the NFC North this year and the cold sweat the entire division.
00:36:25
So and that's including with that Green Bay win last night.
00:36:28
They swept that whole division.
00:36:30
So it's It's kind of a and the court are not considered, you know, the top team, or even in the same conversation with the top teams in the A F. C right now.
00:36:43
So that that's that speaks volumes.
00:36:45
The since since we're talking about the North, can we all finally concede? Because I know I've been this guy all year, but there's been some argument back me.
00:36:59
Can we finally concede that the Bears were who I thought they were, you know, and everybody was letting them off the **** hook.
00:37:05
And now it's, you know, it's they're finally starting.
00:37:08
It wasn't really you guys, but there was other people arguing for the Chicago Bears and their winning.
00:37:12
They're winning.
00:37:13
Yeah, and I just kept saying It's a mirage.
00:37:16
I don't care if they go eight.
00:37:17
No, this is a mirage.
00:37:19
And now what? They're five and five now, right there.
00:37:20
Finally back toe normal.
00:37:22
I've always said this bear teams got a great defensive line.
00:37:26
They've got a couple weapons on the offensive.
00:37:29
They need an offensive line terribly.
00:37:32
Terror, I think, with an offensive line.
00:37:34
Chicago is a competitive team.
00:37:37
Yeah, that's just my opinion.
00:37:39
I still have no faith in Midst Robiskie or Nick Falls.
00:37:42
Yeah, I mean, I get that, but I think that makes like 10 times easier when you have a run game and protection.
00:37:50
That's because I think if they could effectively run the football than those two guys could Game manage and throw the ball 20 times a game and run the football.
00:37:58
You know the rest.
00:37:59
But if it came down to a game where you go down by two scores right away now the run game comes out of the equation.
00:38:04
I don't trust those two quarterbacks toe.
00:38:06
I know Falls has his moments.
00:38:08
I know he has his, you know, Nick Foles moments.
00:38:10
But in the for a long haul, I don't trust those two guys toe have to bail bail out the team because every quarterback at some point has to bail the team out two or three times a season.
00:38:19
You know what I mean? Where it's it's just they go down by two scores and you might pull the team out after, but you go down by two scores.
00:38:24
Your quarterback has to come and start throwing the football and and and getting those points back in your direction.
00:38:30
Eso um sorry to take this over, but I figured since we did the A f.
00:38:35
C who we think will be the first seed.
00:38:37
What if we do it for the NFC? If you guys want to, I mean, because I'm looking at these teams and there's not really a team that's you could really consider, like, dominant, like the Steelers or the Chiefs on the A F.
00:38:50
C, right? I mean, the Saints right now are the number one seed, but are they gonna be able to keep playing the way that they are? I know Taysom Hill played well, but how long is that gonna last? And the Packers? You know, they have shown some *** in their armor.
00:39:04
And then the Seahawks, Who do you guys think like is the top tier of the NFC after, uh, 11.
00:39:13
Yeah, I've got Green Bay now, because now they've got Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Carolina, and then the 27th they played Tennessee.
00:39:22
Then they have Chicago again.
00:39:24
Um, Tennessee, to me, is the only team that really I know Carolina's having their moments, but to me, Tennessee is the only team that really challenges them in that division.
00:39:34
Um, now, this was that.
00:39:36
This is without me looking at the other team schedules, but I look a Green Bay and think that they have the run.
00:39:41
I wanna look at the Saints here.
00:39:43
Of course.
00:39:44
No Drew Brees.
00:39:45
We don't know how long Taysom Hill can hold off.
00:39:48
I mean, he could do this rest of the season and surprise us, but they've got Denver, Atlanta, Philly, Kansas City, Minnesota, Carolina at Carolina, that's a divisional game.
00:39:57
They have to face Kansas City.
00:39:59
Um, Minnesota's the team I never sleep on because they lose the game.
00:40:02
They're supposed toe win and they win the game.
00:40:05
They're supposed to lose.
00:40:06
You never know what Minnesota team is going to show up that day, and then the I guess the other team would be the Seahawks, who again are a team that I don't trust because you never know what Seahawks team is going to show up.
00:40:17
They have San Francisco, then they have no sorry.
00:40:20
I'm looking at the wrong school.
00:40:21
Already been they got New York in New York, Jesus, Washington, San Francisco, and they got the Rams.
00:40:29
So it could be the Seahawks to be because I'm looking at the Rams, who are just a game behind.
00:40:34
And they got obviously Tampa, then the Niners, then the Cardinals.
00:40:39
Then you guys, the Patriots, then the Jets.
00:40:42
They're only easy game, in my opinion, and then Seattle and then Arizona again.
00:40:47
I mean, my goodness, it's like their entire division is in the last half of their their schedule.
00:40:53
That's awful.
00:40:54
That's tough.
00:40:55
What is Tampa schedule look like? Because if they could get through the Rams tonight, let's see.
00:41:01
I had it pulled up.
00:41:02
Let me bring it up here again.
00:41:05
So they got the Chiefs next week.
00:41:07
Then they got the Vikings come into town.
00:41:09
They got to go to Atlanta.
00:41:11
Then they got to go to Detroit, and then they got Atlanta once again in Tampa.
00:41:15
You know, that's not That's not an easy run for Tampa Bay, either.
00:41:18
So now I gotta go.
00:41:19
Seattle, just with that schedule that it's easier than Green Bay's.
00:41:22
I mean, they're probably only lost if they lose, comes to the Rams.
00:41:25
If it happens And do they beat them twice? You know? Probably not.
00:41:30
It was like Kansas City in Vegas, you know, it's close, I said.
00:41:32
I just can't see Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes losing the Vegas twice.
00:41:36
You know, it's just depending upon what kind of defense you see from Seattle popping up from time to time.
00:41:42
And that's the issue, because it ain't gonna be running.
00:41:46
They're not gonna be running the ball versus Rams will tell you that much.
00:41:48
We're not going to see a balanced offense that with Seattle against the Rams.
00:41:53
True that.
00:41:54
What if? Just imagine a scenario where the 5 10 and one Philadelphia Eagles take the underdog story again and say, You know what? We're gonna go to the Super Bowl as a 51 team because screw everybody else in the league.
00:42:08
That would just be crazy.
00:42:10
I would like to see it.
00:42:11
I wouldn't be able to handle Eagles fans.
00:42:14
I mean, you listen, you guys didn't play them in the Super Bowl.
00:42:18
You think Chiefs fans, which which is probably my most hated fan base, second most hated Nothing compares.
00:42:24
Two Eagles fans, man, they are like they make Pittsburgh fans look calm and tame and just the Eagles are nuts.
00:42:32
Man, I couldn't handle the e.
00:42:34
I don't know, because man I have to side with with Joe on the Steelers are I mean, when when you have I have never gained, like just bad, bad trolls in my life until I started talking to Steelers fans.
00:42:55
I'll tell you what, I'm going to screenshot all the comments that have been hidden from YouTube because YouTube filtered them when the when the Patriots were facing the Eagles. I will.
00:43:06
I will screenshot all 1000 comments in a one week span that got filtered by YouTube and I will show you the things that was said to me by Eagles Fans will prepare.
00:43:16
I mean, like, 98% of the NFL fans don't like the Patriots anyhow, so that kind of Oh, but these were Eagles fans because they all had their Eagles pictures.
00:43:27
Trust me, people say things.
00:43:31
There was a lot of comments about my ***** in these, uh, in these comments, so yes, so trust me.
00:43:38
Trust me, Lawrence, you have not been trolled until you get trolled by the Eagles fan base.
00:43:44
I've been trolled by every fan base because we played every team.
00:43:46
Since I've started this YouTube thing, you have not been trolled until you've been trouble.
00:43:50
Do ah do, ah, video on a on a legend Philly player and say that he's bad and just throw his his negative stuff and I will go and then you come back to me and tell me what you think of the Philly fan base.
00:44:02
Don't.
00:44:03
Don't forget, this is a This is a fan base that the city had to grease the polls before the Super Bowl so they wouldn't climb them.
00:44:10
And also the whole Santa Claus thing.
00:44:12
So they threw batteries that Santa Claus batteries.
00:44:15
They threw batteries that Doug Peterson when he was the backup quarterback in Philadelphia.
00:44:20
This is the city that ran Andy Reid out of town.
00:44:23
This is the city that ran Donovan McNabb out of town.
00:44:26
It's Ah, it's Philly is tucked.
00:44:29
Dude, I went to a Philly baseball game, and it was It was a tough scene, man.
00:44:36
No, Philly fans are their intense.
00:44:38
They're passionate there, a passionate fan base, but they are intense.
00:44:41
It kind of makes me think of like, uh like soccer like some of the like, North Manchester fans and things like that.
00:44:49
You know, um, where I'm look atyou, bringing out the soccer referee.
00:44:55
What? What is going on? You've been watching kicking it.
00:45:00
Actually, um, I have some very close friends that live in Europe, and I get a little bit from once in a while about about soccer and Oh, my God.
00:45:15
You could have just credited kicking it and said, Absolutely, Ray, that's what I'm e was there.
00:45:21
You watch the ad comment that I was shocked.
00:45:23
I think I stopped.
00:45:24
And I was like, Oh, my God.
00:45:25
Lawrence E.
00:45:29
Well, you know, I mean, I gotta spread out here.
00:45:34
I can't just do just NFL all the time.
00:45:37
Uh, e we're gonna be talking about, you know, it's, um or you know what? On on the Thursday night show, I'm gonna have Lawrence make his predictions for the Bundesliga on the weekend e so I wouldn't even know not only make the prediction.
00:45:54
I'm gonna make him read the names of the team's Oh, I couldn't do that like Hoffenheim i e.
00:46:01
I would be typing it into google.
00:46:03
Translate, making the auto voice come out I was doing something with somebody, but with basketball and right before I went on, I was like writing like, how do you fanatically announced pronounce this name? You know, like, that's what I was googling like fanatically announced this names or pronounce his name so I don't look like an idiot.
00:46:24
Get on that.
00:46:26
That's what I gotta do when I when I don't recognize some of the names.
00:46:31
Even in the NFL, you you're like, How do I pronounce that name? I go to YouTube and get an interview from that person.
00:46:37
I don't care if it's college, you know, And that way you hear whoever it is, asked that person by name, and then I get it.
00:46:45
So I got a question for you guys.
00:46:46
Is your team do this to every year? Because it does.
00:46:48
It's a patriot suit to me.
00:46:49
Every year they always either sign or draft the guy that somebody like.
00:46:54
What do you think of this guy? You know, or what do you think of the new tackle? And I'll go? Oh, Mike.
00:46:59
Oh, no, Mike On on, uh, I'm a weenie. We on.
00:47:06
Every year they get I'm like, Can you just get Smith.
00:47:12
All right? That was alumina.
00:47:14
Or for when we always took him.
00:47:15
Did you hear that story, Lawrence? Uh, that I found Joe way before we even though I think knew it SportsCastr was because I didn't know how to pronounce alumina.
00:47:24
Or so I found his livestream talking about him.
00:47:26
The trade with Was it a trader are cutting a probably. Yeah.
00:47:33
And he was talking about the trade, and I clicked on Joe's video to find out how to say aluminum, and he was calling him aluminum.
00:47:38
But I was like, No, how do you say his name? His actual name? Well, in order to get tongue of I low, uh, I had to actually go on and and listen to his father.
00:47:51
You mean a name that doesn't have an end in it but has an end pronounced e I still, like all the time.
00:47:59
Calm tag A viola like don't calm tango Viola.
00:48:02
I know E No, I go with to all the time.
00:48:07
There was another guy.
00:48:08
I was doing draft prospects a couple years ago for a tight end.
00:48:10
And who did he? He was a Hawaiian guy.
00:48:13
He's a tight end, and his grandmother actually commented on my YouTube page because he had, like, a Hawaiian or Samoa name.
00:48:23
And I just butchered it like, just absolutely butchered it.
00:48:26
And she commented and said, That's my grandson Like to follow everything he does.
00:48:29
Thank you for the next video.
00:48:31
Here's how you say his name and she fanatically put it out for me.
00:48:34
What the hell was? And I didn't know.
00:48:36
So I messaged him and said, Was this actually your grandmother? I I d m them on instagram.
00:48:41
He wrote back.
00:48:42
He's like, Yeah, that's my grandma.
00:48:43
She comments everything on YouTube.
00:48:45
Uh, what the hell was his name? He's And I just saw him.
00:48:49
He's on the i.
00:48:50
R.
00:48:51
This year.
00:48:52
Might be on the i r.
00:48:53
With who? Know how my mama knew.
00:48:55
We know that's the only one that I know.
00:48:59
He never went to the Patriots.
00:49:00
I think he went to the Seahawks.
00:49:02
Uh, I cannot remember his name.
00:49:05
Now I'm just gonna look up their roster. You guys talk.
00:49:08
I'm gonna look up and find this guy.
00:49:09
Okay? All right.
00:49:10
Now, I've had some some names that I have issues pronouncing and I'll end up just saying like Tommy seek.
00:49:18
Yeah, you know, or something like that, because I mean, butchering a name is butchering a name, and you don't wanna do that.
00:49:24
Well, T J.
00:49:25
Houshmandzadeh was one of those names that I just couldn't get, like for a while.
00:49:29
And then finally, okay, after he went to the Ravens, that's when I started picking it.
00:49:33
You say how? Yeah, how Cashman's a day like, Yeah, there's some names that I'm just like Jesus, Can you not just make up like, Oh, I get mad at Belichick someday.
00:49:45
It's not to see how it's Khalil.
00:49:48
I can't remember it, Z, I'm upset now because I was so proud that his grandmother watch so on.
00:49:57
And and I wanna make this very, very clear.
00:49:59
We're not hearing his name of anyone's name here.
00:50:02
No, no, no, not making fun.
00:50:04
It's just because of where we're at, uh, in our own language.
00:50:09
It is very difficult sometimes to pronunciation, other people's names, the Texans, Cali, Kelly or war.
00:50:17
Okay on.
00:50:18
And I was calling them ****tail.
00:50:20
That's what I was going.
00:50:21
I was calling him ****tail warring and it Zika Hailey Hailey warring because in the YouTube videos.
00:50:28
They call them Kajal warring, and it was grandmothers like It's not ****tail, it's Cali and she'd fanatically put it out for me.
00:50:34
He's on the IRA's place for the Texans.
00:50:37
Like there's like my name Lawrence.
00:50:39
It's got a W in it.
00:50:40
So I wanna know how Germans would pronounce my name.
00:50:43
You know? I mean, this Lawrence E.
00:50:48
First of all, Lawrence is a is a dramatic name.
00:50:53
So they would tell you, Lawrence, Um, no, it's It's like my name. My name is Raymond.
00:50:58
You know what I mean when you look at it, but it's not, it's not spelled crime.
00:51:02
And for some reason, we have, uh, in our name.
00:51:05
I had a Chilean, uh, had a Chilean babies.
00:51:08
They're growing up. They called me Raymondo.
00:51:10
There you go, Raimondo.
00:51:12
But, you know, Germans air whack because, like my name, my name is route and it spelled R au th we have when my family came to North America.
00:51:20
Instead of putting an accent over the T like we have my name is actually are a U. T with an accent.
00:51:25
My grandfather, my great great grandfather, just added an H and got really accent.
00:51:30
Somehow that was gonna make things easier for the Canadians, which it hasn't.
00:51:34
Because I never once, even when I look at it like Roth, you know, Rod e honestly, right When I when I introduced myself to people in business, I just say Roth, because it's just easier for them to, Because if I say route and then they look at my name, I start getting route trout throughout the Ruth I hate you.
00:51:56
Know what you wanna hear? The I know we're going off way off topic, but I get emails all the time from people that say hi, Ruth like age.
00:52:05
And I'm like, my name is Ray Rail.
00:52:08
Why does everybody call me Ruth when they see e? That's all anyways.
00:52:13
Well, I mean, when I order food and they asked for a name, I give them.
00:52:17
I say Owen, because they can't spell.
00:52:20
No one spells Lawrence correctly so and it's just easier just to put w e happy that you went by Lawrence because I don't know a lot of Lawrence's.
00:52:29
I know a lot of Larry's.
00:52:30
You what? I mean, I don't know.
00:52:33
Lawrence author.
00:52:34
I know a lot of people like I know people whose name is Lawrence, but they go by Larry or Layer you what? I mean, but you actually talked it with Lawrence.
00:52:41
My like my I had a teacher tryto call me Larry.
00:52:45
And my dad was in the when in elementary school and my dad what has happened to been in there and he said, No, you do not call him Larry.
00:52:51
He call him Lawrence.
00:52:52
That's what I named him.
00:52:53
That's what's on his person certification.
00:52:55
So I stuck with it because I respect my father.
00:52:57
My dad, my father tried that.
00:53:01
My father tried, uh, to keep Raymond like no, call him Raymond my teachers like, but he's the one who keeps telling us to call him Ray.
00:53:10
And we got we have when we have went off the rails.
00:53:13
Man, we have just I hope you guys got something out of this last 10 minutes because not everybody way did.
00:53:20
We did so that z Absolutely.
00:53:24
And and Thomas mhm, I'm sure, is Brady's first name, Thomas, because I would love to start calling him that Thomas Edward Patrick Break.
00:53:35
Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.
00:53:37
There we go there.
00:53:39
Well, because Skip Bayless says it all the time.
00:53:42
Yeah, that's why he he can use Wikipedia to all right.
00:53:47
I'm calling him Thomas for now on just because it's respect to use the actual name that's on the birth certificate Mass Brady.
00:53:56
Alright, guys.
00:53:58
Alright, It's been 54 minutes.
00:53:59
We got way off target.
00:54:01
Let's get some score predictions, Joe.
00:54:04
What are you looking at? Score prediction wise, right? Well, this could be I think this will be a little bit of a lower scoring game.
00:54:15
I don't think that either of these teams air putting over, let's say 25.
00:54:19
I think that this could be like a 24 21 type of game, maybe a 24 16 type of game.
00:54:28
You know that someone tries to score at the end of the game, but they're not unable to, but I'm still gonna roll with the bucks.
00:54:34
I'm gonna say bucks 24 21.
00:54:37
Like I said, their backs are against the wall, and I think they come out.
00:54:41
I think the defense clamps up, and, uh, yeah, I think that the offense is has enough talent, and they should be able to move the ball on this Rams defense.
00:54:50
So this game, with seconds, seconds left is going to be tied 20 to 20.
00:55:03
And Matt Gray, Matt Gay.
00:55:07
Matt Gay, That's the kicker for the marriage is gonna come out and win the game 23 20 with a 38 yard field goal for the Rams.
00:55:16
That is my That is my prediction for this game.
00:55:18
You put a dollar on that exact prediction.
00:55:21
You'll probably win 150,000.
00:55:23
Uh, you want 100 grand on his vets? What is Yeah, 200 grand and bets this week.
00:55:31
What is? What's a good, bad bet? Bet dot com? I'll do it.
00:55:33
I'll put a buck on that exact scenario.
00:55:36
Yeah, right that You know what? I bet you there's a website somewhere that has that scenario that I could bet on.
00:55:43
What doubt it.
00:55:45
It's probably drop drag stuff, but, um, no, I I'm kind of Thorn.
00:55:52
I am.
00:55:53
I'm a little bit thorn because at times this Rams defense has looked ah, little bit iffy when it comes to the run game.
00:56:00
But at the same time, this past defense is phenomenal, especially with Ramsey and and Donald up there in the middle because we all know what a three tech can do.
00:56:10
Teoh a quarterback if he gets pressure.
00:56:13
And Donald's the best of doing that.
00:56:16
So I am going to go with the Rams in this game.
00:56:20
I I kind of agree with you guys.
00:56:22
I don't see anyone blowing anyone out in this game at all.
00:56:28
I don't, um but yeah, I'm gonna say it's it's probably gonna be somewhere around what you guys were saying, You know, low twenties.
00:56:38
Um, So Rand's I'm gonna put a safety in there somewhere.
00:56:47
23.
00:56:48
21.
00:56:49
Okay.
00:56:50
Hey, you got to say 2020 with final seconds on a kick.
00:56:55
Where did the safety come, though? How did you get a? There's no way of safety equals those numbers.
00:57:02
Three touchdowns in the safety is 23 I guess.
00:57:08
Think game's gonna end on the safety.
00:57:11
I was trying to put the Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:57:17
Oh, this This show is so Doug, make a make a profile.
00:57:21
Don't be a freeloader.
00:57:22
Follow Joe.
00:57:23
Follow Lawrence.
00:57:24
It's really simple up there.
00:57:25
You guys have heard the pitch over and over and over again.
00:57:28
We've gone 57 minutes.
00:57:30
We've talked about names.
00:57:31
We've talked about our names.
00:57:32
We've talked about safeties and field goals.
00:57:36
Joe had therapy tonight.
00:57:37
He's been on for the last 4.5 hours.
00:57:39
It's time to go, Lawrence. Yep.
00:57:41
Everybody, thank you so much for watching the stream.
00:57:44
We appreciate you being here.
00:57:46
Enjoy the game.
00:57:47
That looks to be a good one coming up.
00:57:50
I know I will.
00:57:51
I'm sure that these guys will is well, except for maybe Joe.
00:57:54
Um, I don't know where you're gonna be watching the game, Joe.
00:57:58
I should Yeah.
00:57:59
I just finished everything I need to do, so I'll probably be watching it.
00:58:02
It would be good therapy watching someone else get beat.
00:58:05
Probably.
00:58:07
At least you don't Gotta watch out the Steelers tonight. Win a game.
00:58:10
Oh, man.
00:58:11
Yeah.
00:58:12
Watching on Thursday, Probably what my teams asked.
00:58:14
So that's what I have to see.
00:58:15
It's another confidence.
00:58:17
How can I be confident and then you could watch the Detroit game? Uh huh.
00:58:25
Right.
00:58:26
Duh. Hey.
00:58:28
Okay. I know. We gotta go.
00:58:29
Can I ask you guys one question, though.
00:58:30
I read an article last week.
00:58:32
It's time for the lions to give up the Thanksgiving Day game.
00:58:36
Are you guys traditionalists? Or is that team just like enough is enough? Put somebody else in there I have had I have sat down and watched Lions football on Thanksgiving every Thanksgiving with my father since I was a little boy.
00:58:51
I don't want that to change Joe, not tradition's tradition.
00:58:56
I'm with you guys, man.
00:58:57
Just do you know why the lines and the Cowboys and the only two team, or are the two teams that are the only two teams that always play on Thanksgiving? No.
00:59:05
Because back in the day when they wanted have Thanksgiving games were the only two teams that agreed to play.
00:59:10
Yeah, but the Lions and the Cowboys are the only two teams that agreed back in the day that they would play on like no problems playing on Thanksgiving.
00:59:21
And that's why they kept them a ZA two teams to play every Thanksgiving.
00:59:25
No, I agree with you guys.
00:59:26
This tradition, like I was saying, Lawrence off air.
00:59:28
Thursday is just a day for me up here in Canada, but I will take Thursday off because there's a full day of football.
00:59:34
I'm not gonna go work when there's a full day of football.
00:59:36
So I will be off watching football.
00:59:38
And yes, I agree.
00:59:39
I'm the same as you guys.
00:59:40
I've watched Detroit in Dallas.
00:59:42
My whole life is well, and because that's the only my dad, you supposed out of school when we were kids to be home on Thanksgiving, the watch football.
00:59:49
So I will be.
00:59:50
I want those games remain as well.
00:59:52
I just read the article and thought I'd ask you guys because I found it curious that it was even being brought up.
00:59:57
All right, well, thanks, everybody for watching.
01:00:00
Please give myself Give Ray, give Joe a follow.
01:00:04
Hit the like, Share this to your social media.
01:00:07
And until next time, I'm Laurence Owen.
01:00:11
For everyone here at SportsCastr News.
01:00:14
Have a good one later.
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NFL Week 11 MNF: Rams at Buccaneers

Joe Burrow’s season with the Cincinnati Bengals came to an end on Sunday after he suffered a devastating knee injury. Burrow sustained a torn ACL and MCL in addition to other structural issues. Adam Schefter of ESPN noted knee injuries like this usually take somewhere between 9-to-12 months to recover, which could place Burrow in […]

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00:00:02
Welcome to SportsCastr News Monday Night Football edition Week 11.
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We're talking about a football game.
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Which one? I don't know.
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Let's let's just pick two teams out of a hat.
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No, I'm sorry.
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We have toe choose the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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We all have to choose this other team that that is also ah, wildcard team at the moment, which is the Rams, which I didn't expect.
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Honestly, I mean, I think raided.
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Um, but this game here is gonna have huge playoff implications coming up down the road between these two teams with their records right now and being both teams being second in their division, Ray.
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But before we get into that Joe Burrow with the tour a c l m C l.
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And he has just been reported that they fully expect him to return by the beginning of 2021.
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But most likely, I mean, I don't know how this off season is going to go with the whole, uh, Kobe situation still going along.
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I don't know if they're gonna they'll probably being that they're doing practices and stuff.
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They'll probably do have the o.
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T. A s and stuff like that.
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Just with the same kind of stuff, but that they're going on right now.
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But, uh, one of these things that take so long to heal up Hey, probably won't be throwing the football around with his teammates until probably late.
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Maybe even pre season.
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What do you think? Yeah, I mean, they're talking about earlier.
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They're talking about, you know, 20.
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They'll be ready for 2021 does. I mean, he'll be ready.
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Week one.
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Does that mean he'll be ready O t a s.
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That.
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That's a whole lot of questions to ask.
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I'll put it.
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I will say this, though.
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I mean, for the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Even when things are going right, they go wrong.
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Um, I mean, if it was gonna happen, anybody was gonna happen to Joe Burrow on Lee because of the organization that he plays for.
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And I'm not saying I don't blame the Cincinnati Bengals for what happened.
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It was an unfortunate hit.
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Um ah, high low hit should have been a flag on the play.
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By the way, you can't hit a quarterback high and low.
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This is the reason you can't hit a quarterback high and low because this is what happens when you had to do a high low hit.
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You lose the number one overall draft pick.
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What does that mean for the Cincinnati Bengals this season? Absolutely. Bupkis.
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Nothing.
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It actually probably puts them in a better position to lose more games and get a better pick and keep building on this team where it hurts them.
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Going forward is they wanted Joe Burrow to get his many snaps.
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Is he could this season.
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They wanted him to throw the ball with his teammates as much as they he could this season.
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And unfortunately, he's gonna miss the next six games because of it and not be able to continue to get those snaps.
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What would have been ideal situation for Joe Burrow is you play this out this whole season.
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You show up toe O.
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T A s.
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You play training camp, you get into the preseason, you probably play him a little bit more.
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Then you would play a veteran quarterback to let him get snaps, Let him get in rhythm, and really, I would have to assume with their high draft pick, they're going to take one of the top offensive linemen in the league.
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I mean, how could you not? And now they're in a situation where I mean, if this team was in it, you don't have Joe Mix and you don't have Joe Burrow.
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It's, you know, like I said, even when things go right, they go wrong For the Bengals A.
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J.
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Green, who knows what's gonna happen with him next season? So you might have Joe Burrow trying to get some sort of relationship and acclamation with the new wide receiver and not have the time to get into place.
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I'm not saying that this kid's career is over, but I'm saying there's a big setback not just for Joe Burrow, but a big setback for this organization.
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Uh, that timeline seems like an awful short turnaround, because I was reading them from Adam Schefter.
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Today.
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It's an A C L M C, l and structural damage to the knee.
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That's beyond just in a c l M c l repair.
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You're talking structural damage.
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We are at the end of November.
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We're in Thanksgiving week.
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Now.
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This is when they say football season really starts for the competitors, the competitive teams.
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I mean, you're you're talking about nine months to get back on the field and be in football shape.
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Lawrence, I'm gonna take a hot take right now.
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I don't think we see Joe Burrow Week one for the Cincinnati Bengals next season.
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That Z I don't know how hard of a take that is.
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I mean, uh, even if he's healthy by then, he might not have had enough snaps to go out there and do that.
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You know, I could I could very well see him taking his first snaps while preseason games are going.
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And if that happens, you don't want to start a guy cold, you know? So, yeah, I completely see your point of view on that.
00:04:51
Um, last night, Sunday night football Raiders chiefs did you get Did you get a chance to watch that game? I watched the enough of that game.
00:05:02
I would say I watched I was back and forth between that game and something else I was taking care of last night.
00:05:07
Dheepan commentary always gets in the way of Sunday Night football as well.
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So it's a stop and start.
00:05:12
I watched the end of the game, which is probably the most important part, and I'm finding now that the NFL is very much like the N B A.
00:05:20
You only have to watch the last three minutes, and you basically got the whole game in front of you.
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Uh, listen, where we was there, if there was an argument left by anybody that Patrick Mahomes isn't the best quarterback in the NFL right now last night prove that he is, Um, I don't care if he has Tyree kill and, you know, in Travis Kelsey, I think you could give him the Patriots receivers and he'd still have a 4000 yards season.
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And and I'm not knocking Cam Newton.
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But But Patrick Mahomes is just one of those guys.
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He's the Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady, the Aaron Rodgers of his era.
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And he's phenomenal and he's gonna break a bunch of records, and he looks like he's not slowing down.
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And I think Andy Reid, is that it perfect, he said.
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I don't sweat close games.
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I have Patrick Mahomes, and when your head coach has that kind of faith in you, not just because I don't think Andy Reid just says that.
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I think Andy Reid is being the Andy Reid's, A straight up guy.
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He means that when your coach is just sitting there like it's okay, we have Patrick Mahomes.
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It reminds me of Watch Mike up of Super Bowl 51 Patriots and in Atlanta, and you got players on the sidelines.
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Defensive players.
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Running backs is going.
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We got Tom Brady.
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It doesn't matter. We got Tom Brady. It's okay.
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Uh, that's what Patrick Mahomes brings to the Kansas City Chiefs.
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And I would dare say they could be down 28 to 3 going, you know, close to the fourth quarter in a Super Bowl.
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And I think Andy Reid would have just as much confidence that Patrick Mahomes could bring them back the same way that Tom Brady did.
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Yeah, I mean, a minute 43.
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I feel like the Raiders could have probably, uh, they had a few downs left.
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But the problem was, is that there was a bunch of penalties on that drive that the Raiders took to score at the end and leave a minute 43 left for Patrick Mahomes.
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If it wasn't for that, I feel like they would have killed some clock, but it was it was one of those situations I need to score now while I have a chance.
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Because who knows if somebody might get a holding call or false start or something of that nature? Because, I mean, look at the Colts game.
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The Colts had it well, in the bag of the next thing you know, holding, holding, holding what it was like they wanted something else to happen.
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The rest did.
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Um, not that I'm saying that they weren't holding on on those calls.
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Every one of those calls that was holding on them.
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I'm just saying that sometimes penalties shouldn't be called.
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Sometimes they should be called.
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Um, well, but no Patrick Mahomes, man.
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Wow, You're right.
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I mean, when it comes to certain players, I'm gonna just remind everybody that in the A F C Championship game two years ago, the New England Patriots made it 31 to 28 with 39 seconds left in the game.
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39 skins.
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I was already I had the cigarette in my hand ready to go out and light it and celebrate the A F C Championship game on Lito watch.
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Patrick Mahomes, with 39 seconds left in the game, marched down the field and set his team up for an over for a field goal and goto overtime.
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Now the Patriots won it.
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Mahomes never got on the field, but you can't give the guy 39 seconds.
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You can't give him a minute.
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45 or a minute.
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43 Thio finish his last drive.
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That's that's all the time.
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You know here in Canada with the CFL, and we always say one minute is actually two minutes because they stopped the clock on every play.
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Right now, they'll start it back up.
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But by the time they started back up, you're already lined up and you could snap the ball and not lose a second.
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So a minute left in the game is like having 10 timeouts right, and you can march down the field a minute.
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43 to Patrick Mahomes is like having 34 minutes left in the game. He can.
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He can execute that field and move it and spike that ball.
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And the thing about this Chiefs team, this isn't just on the home.
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This is the players they have.
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They could get 40 50 yards on you in one play and now Suddenly it's a minute 30 left and they're already on your 30 yard line.
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Yeah, the foot, the script.
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I think that the Raiders, I think they're a team to be reckoned with.
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I think they have officially, I mean, this was a game that was close the entire night.
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I mean, it was back and forth the entire night.
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It was a dog fight between Patrick Mahomes and Derek Carr, and it was a beautiful dog fight.
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And it's weird to say Derek Carr was having a dogfight with Patrick Mahomes.
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But, I mean, the Raiders already beat the Chiefs once this year, and then they almost beat them again on Sunday Night football.
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And I'm just watching this game going.
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Even with this loss, it does not lesson my opinion on what the Raiders air doing this season and what they're capable of going on into the future.
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What are your thoughts on the Raiders right now? They ran into Patrick Mahomes last night.
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That's that's all that happened.
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I absolutely this team.
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I mean, I'm gonna tip my hat.
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I didn't think Derek Carr had it in him, and I was very critical and I thought I said.
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The Raiders are a good team, and it's gonna be wasted by having the coach who's out of touch and having a quarterback who's just not that good.
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And the coach has been brilliant this year, and the quarterback has.
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I'm not gonna say that Derek Carr has been brilliant, but he's been steady and consistent, and that's what will help you win football games.
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Um, no, I don't count them out, either.
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They ran into it and you know it's funny.
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A win last night would have really made that division interesting, because you could say, Well, that she's still have a game in hand.
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But Las Vegas would have had all the tie breakers, and now that now at nine and to the Chiefs look like they got a pretty or nine and 19 and one or nine.
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It's nine and one, right? They they've got a pretty They've got a pretty good, steady run.
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Um oh, sorry about this.
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One second, I clicked on a Web site to grab some stats, and all of a sudden someone was talking to my ear and I had no idea was Julian Edelman.
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I had no idea what was going on.
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I apologize for that delay.
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Guys, I just freaked me out.
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I was with I thought, I'm on ESPN.
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I thought somebody had, but it was a delay.
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That was a big delay.
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Sorry. So I apologize.
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That's I freaked out.
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I thought someone had entered our stream and I was like, I was looking for Joe, to be honest with, but no, no, they ran into patrimony.
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They're good, but that if they would have one last night, I mean, that Chief's defense, the suspect man.
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And I'll tell you one thing, Lawrence.
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I learned that as a Patriots fan, I know you learned it as a Colts fan behind Peyton Manning.
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Sometimes even having Tom Brady and Peyton Manning isn't enough to win football games when your defense can't keep you in the game, you know in the playoff, especially in the playoffs.
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And how many early exits that we see out of Indianapolis in big score games where you know Peyton didn't get last touch, you know the defense didn't give him last possession.
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That gave the other team last possession, and that's what what? What hurts them? And I've seen it happen with Tom Brady.
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I've seen the defense completely.
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Let him down.
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Now the team he's playing tonight.
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I saw the defense win him a championship, and we'll get into that in a minute.
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But that chief's defense, they got it together going into last year's playoffs.
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And I think a lot of Chiefs fans are optimistic they got it together.
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But I'm gonna remind Chiefs fans they already had it together by week 11 last year.
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This, you know, they already had it together.
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They haven't got it together, and they looked as good as the Raiders look last night.
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The chief's defense look bad.
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And that division, if the Raiders could have pulled that off that division, would've got very interesting because I expect Kansas City to lose again somewhere down the line.
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Yeah, the thing is, is I expect the Steelers toe lose at least one game this season.
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I get that they're 10 and no.
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But there's a reason why there's no chatter about the Steelers running for an undefeated season because the Steelers have looked vulnerable.
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In nearly every game that you've watched, they look like, Hey, this is a beatable team.
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It's just it seems like every game.
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Things go just right for them and they end up winning now.
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I'm not saying they're not a great team.
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They are a great team with Ben Roethlisberger sitting back there with that, that aggressive blitz, happy defense.
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They are a very, very good, tough team and a tough out.
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But I think that I just I honestly thought that they had a shot at losing a game, and it was a chance that Kansas City could overtake that that top spot in the in the sea.
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It still, it still can't happen now that the Chiefs won.
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So who do you have? Who do you think is going to win the A F.
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C? Do you think the Steelers went out, Or do you think that Kansas City wins out what's going on in that situation? And as we do that, I'm gonna go ahead and bring Joe New Bow into the stream.
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But go ahead and talk about that.
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Apologies for being late, fellas.
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I was going through a therapy session after yesterday's abomination of a game, so I understand, all right, so I'm giving Ray the floor on who we think is going to take the top seed in the A f C.
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Whether it's gonna be the current undefeated Steelers or if we believe that they might falter later on in Kansas City. Might take it.
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Or somebody else possibly. Ray.
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Well, I mean, first of all, before I even give you that answer.
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I wanna look at the contrast of the NFL, and this is why I love the NFL.
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Don't get me wrong.
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This is why I love football, because you talk about a Steelers team and you're absolutely right.
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Everything that could possibly go right for them has gone right.
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You, too, And they're 10.
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And no, You take a team like the New England Patriots, where everything that could possibly go wrong goes wrong.
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Quarterback gets Cove.
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It a bad fumble.
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You know, a missed wide receiver and they're now out of the playoffs, right? And it's really in every game.
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You could go for the every Steelers win.
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You can probably put down two or three plays that made them win.
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And with the Patriots, it's two or three plays that made them lose.
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Saying that good teams win, bad teams lose.
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And I'm not saying the Patriots or a bad team, but I'm not saying they're a great team.
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And sometimes to be good, you have to be lucky.
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Lucky things happen when you're there.
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You know, I go back to that Patriots Baltimore game last season.
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Not this season, but that Patriot Baltimore game last season.
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I'm not saying Baltimore didn't win that game deservingly, but I'm saying If Julian Edelman doesn't fumble that football and the Patriots take the lead to start the second half, it doesn't change that game.
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Instead, it's a fumble.
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It's a scoop and score, and now it's a two score game again, and that basically seals the deal right.
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One play can change the whole dynamic of a game.
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That being said, Corner and I actually went through this and we have both Pittsburgh and Kansas City finishing at 14 and to, and we gave the loss.
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I'm just trying to see where we gave a loss to Baltimore and a loss to Buffalo for the Steelers, and even with what I saw out of ah, out of Baltimore.
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But that's who.
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We got them losing two and we have Kansas City losing the Tampa Bay next week and we have them losing, too.
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That's it.
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That's it s or that's it.
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So I think by now it comes down to tie breakers and we didn't I think when we went, we know we did.
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We were too lazy to go and figure out the tie breaker.
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Who wins the division? But we have them both finishing 14.
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And to now it's gonna go down to the A F C record first, and I believe that that record would go to Who did the Chiefs lose? Two.
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They thio lost to the Raiders and then OK, then we have them losing the Tampa's.
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I'd actually go to the Chiefs because they're on the A F C loss would be the Raiders, and we have the Pittsburgh Steelers losing two games in the A F.
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C.
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So the Chiefs would have a better A f C record.
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So I got the Chiefs winning the A F C this year.
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Your thoughts, Joe, I'm the same.
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I'm looking at these schedules.
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Um, and I would say for the Steelers side they have three games that are kind of like they could lose them right, Whereas the Chiefs, they only have, in my opinion, one game that I think they could lose the rest of the season.
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And it is to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and even that one they could win.
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So, um, the other game is obviously against the Saints.
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But we don't know if Drew Brees is gonna be healthy by then.
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Probably not.
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So they're either gonna be starting Taysom Hill.
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Er, Jameis Winston.
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I really don't like their chances to outscore the Chiefs there, so yeah, I think the Chiefs probably only lose one more game if even the rest of the season.
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Whereas the Steelers, um, there's three remaining games that are gonna be tough for them.
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And, you know, we're gonna see if they can actually come through, like, of course, Thanksgiving night.
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As we already know.
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Um, Ravens, obviously very down, not looking very good, but it's still a divisional matchup.
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You know, we did a pretty good job.
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Uh, we should have beaten them.
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Last time we played, we didn't because of the turnovers, but that could be a loss for them.
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That could be their first loss of the season.
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They also have Buffalo Bills in Buffalo.
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Very tough game.
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You know, if Josh Allen plays well and the Colts, so there's three games that the Steelers could absolutely lose.
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Whereas I really only see one game, potentially, that the Chiefs could really drop here.
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So, yeah, I think that I also have the Chiefs getting the number one seed in the A F.
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C and Lawrence.
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Just so you know, we really debated the indie game like we really went back and forth and just and I can't remember our reasoning.
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But it was a hair that we gave it Thio, that we gave it to Pittsburgh and both said, that could be a very lose a ball game for because I have a star beside Indy.
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So it's I know it was something we debated.
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E wish I would have wrote notes to be honest with its fine.
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I am so used to people, and I'm not saying you're doing this, But Nick right is awful with the Indianapolis Colts.
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I mean, awful, he says.
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He said, like two days ago, there is no possible way in D Beach, Green Bay.
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Nick is an idiot.
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And then and then and then when he cheated on, and then when the Colts won against Green Bay, he said.
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Green Bay shot themselves in the foot and gave the game away.
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And, oh, yeah, it's a dance in the world that indeed does anything in the playoffs because Philip Rivers and Philip River listen, the Chargers, we're gonna knock the Patriots out of the playoffs and then the dynasty.
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Okay, They luckily got by the Chargers.
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I think the Patriots blew them out like 42 15 Theun.
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It was.
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Oh, they're not. They don't have a chance with the Chiefs.
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Patrick Mahomes is going to score 28 points in the first half.
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You got shut out in the first half.
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Oh, well, the Patriots won the coin toss in overtime.
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That's what they want, but they have no chance against Aaron Donald on the Rams.
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Um, Jared Goff in that offense, they're gonna just put points up all day.
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They scored three points, right? The Patriots won 13 to 3.
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So, Nick, right? If if you're at all in competition with with his precious Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes or or Aaron Rodgers, he's just he's just a ****.
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Forget or LeBron James. He's an idiot.
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Let him be alright.
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So let's Let's go ahead and get into tonight's game.
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Like I said, I mean, this is a game between two second seed teams in their division, right, that they're not even leading their divisions.
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Neither one of them are this.
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This has playoff implications, the loser of this game.
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There's a possibility they don't make the playoffs.
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And they're both sitting, uh, in second place in their division, right behind the leaders of Seattle.
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And, uh, but New Orleans, New Orleans almost said Green Bay.
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I was like, What? The world of my thinking? Um, but yeah, I mean, and this is a game where you got Tampa Bay with all that firepower.
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And yet they're only middle of the pack when it comes to, like, yardage wise, uh, on their team like middle of the pack offense.
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But their defense is stellar.
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And then you got the Rams, who its top five in both offense and defense when it comes to yardage wise.
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What are you expecting from this game? Right.
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Very low scoring game, to be honest with you.
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Um, listen, if Drew Brees gets healthy and Taysom Hill continues to perform the way he performed last week, there might be some debate in New Orleans about who's the starting quarterback come playoff time because I'm having a very different conversation with you boys.
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And I did yesterday morning when I just basically wrote off the New Orleans Saints.
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Good for Taysom Hill.
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You know, um, I did go back and watch that game.
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He played good.
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I mean, I don't not going to sit and say it's played spectacular, but he played good and in New Orleans look good.
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Tampa Bay needs to win this game.
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Tampa Bay could find themselves.
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They've already lost to New Orleans twice.
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That's it.
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Every tiebreaker in every scenario goes to the New Orleans Saints.
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Uh, I just don't think it's gonna happen tonight for Tampa.
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Unfortunately, I think that I watched Tom Brady versus this defense in Aaron Donald and I watched the New England Patriots offense that was pretty prolific that year scored 13 points in a Super Bowl, where they somehow strangely gave a wide receiver M V P instead of a defensive player when they let up only three points.
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What you're going to see tonight is reminiscence of what we saw in the second half of yesterday's Indianapolis Green Bay game because once indie adjusted their defense, they were all over Aaron Rodgers.
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The on leeway Tampa Bay wins this game is if Bruce Arians finally pulls his head out of his ass.
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And let's Tom Brady play the football that Tom Brady likes to play because he needs to get rid of that ball quickly.
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And if Bruce Arians wants chunk yards, those 15 2025 yard plays that he's making Brady throw this offensive line is not gonna be able to handle the Rams.
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So if Tampa can play the offensive, Brady knows like that runs proficiently.
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Then I'll change my mind.
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I'll say Tampa will win, but if he wants those trunk yards and he wants them, if Mike Evans is open all game and he wants to toss it down the field of Mike Evans, they're gonna be in a lot of trouble because that's a good secondary to that that they're going up against.
00:24:17
I'd be running the football if I was if I was Tampa and setting up play action.
00:24:23
Well, Joe, do you trust Jared golf against this Tampa defense, though, it's gonna be Jared Goff versus Tom Brady to the sequel.
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But is it gonna be better than the original? Probably because 13 and three was just I'm sorry, but I know you say it was a defensive battle, but Jesus Christ.
00:24:42
Okay, so both of these teams, I think, in my opinion, I'm kind of looking at everything.
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And I think that the Bucks have their backs up against the wall a little more than the Rams do here.
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The Rams, While they are still competing with the Seahawks for the division, they do have a game on them.
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Whereas, like you said, Ray, the Bucks have lost twice to the Saints.
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They don't have a game on the Saints.
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They can't afford to lose any more.
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And who is the best in that scenario? It's Tom Brady, right? He's always been like that when his backs against the wall when you know you need to make a push for the playoffs is Tom Brady.
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Tampa Bay Bucks.
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They're coming off a huge win against the Panthers, the Rams air coming off a huge win off the Seahawks.
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I could see the Rams having a little bit of a letdown game here, and maybe they're, you know, taking their foot off the gas a little bit there like they're feeling high on themselves.
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We just beat the Seahawks.
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Um, I think the bucks have more to lose here.
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Therefore, I think that they're going to come through here and I know you know the Rams have Aaron Donald.
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They have Jalen Ramsey.
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They got a good defense, and I like the Rams.
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I like Sean McVeigh and all that, but I think that the Bucks defense, we're going to see them show up here because they've had some good games and they've had some bad games, Right? So I think this is gonna be a good game from the Tampa Bay Bucks.
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I think they're gonna be getting to Jared Goff.
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And I do.
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I do like the bucks here because, like I said, I think that their backs arm or up against the wall than the Rams are.
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So now I will throw a counterpoint to you.
00:26:11
Okay.
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And somehow, over the last two weeks, maybe even three weeks, I've somehow had to become a Tom Brady defender, which bothers me because I just wanted to rip on him all season.
00:26:20
But the idiocy of Twitter has forced me to defend Tom Brady as it does.
00:26:26
You're absolutely right, Joe.
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This is a moment that we've seen time and time again.
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Where Tom Brady, when everything's on the line, he performs.
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And I don't doubt that Tom Brady is not gonna perform tonight.
00:26:36
There's a big difference going into this game, though.
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He doesn't have Bill Belichick on that sideline that realizes, Let's do what we do Well, right? That's what Belichick's whole thing is.
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Let's do what we do well, don't try to do something that we don't do well or that we're still working on and this type of game we do what we do well.
00:26:57
Bruce Arians is still trying to force an offensive scheme down Tom Brady's throat that he hasn't been able to execute since 2000 and seven, when he had Randy Moss.
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And my argument is, it won't be if they lose today because of the offense.
00:27:14
I'm not.
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It won't be on Tom Brady.
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It will be because Bruce Arians can't figure out I have one of the greatest proficient quarterbacks in the league.
00:27:23
During the tight ends, running backs and slot receivers let him throw two running backs, tight ends and slot receivers.
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Tom Brady should be throwing the ball seven yards, six yards down the field, not taking these 15, 20 yards shots every second or third pass.
00:27:38
That's the problem.
00:27:39
Bruce Area.
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You know, this is where and look.
00:27:42
This is where I forget the Patriots for second. Just look at Bill Belichick.
00:27:45
This is where I look at Bill Belichick.
00:27:47
I heard him talking about Cam Newton this year and he said, You know, we of course, we tailor our offense to Cam Newton the same way that we did to Tom.
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We're not gonna make Cam Newton run Tom Brady's offense.
00:27:57
It just doesn't work that way.
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Bruce Arians is trying to run the James Winston offense with Tom Brady, and it's just There's something about it that's not working.
00:28:06
You can see it. It's not.
00:28:08
I've never seen Brady not be crisp.
00:28:12
I guess it's we'll call it.
00:28:13
Even in his bad games.
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They're still a bit of a rhythm there.
00:28:16
You could just see Tampa Bay fall out of rhythm.
00:28:18
They can look really great and then just fall out of rhythm out of nowhere and be out a rhythm for two quarters before they start getting it back.
00:28:25
That's my concern.
00:28:26
I will never put this on on Tom Brady.
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I would put this on Bruce Arians.
00:28:29
If they lose tonight, my biggest issue and I get where you're coming from, Joe on the whole back to the wall thing.
00:28:37
I get that because if they do lose, that spills, uh, scary situation for them not making the playoffs.
00:28:45
However, however, when this Tampa offense goes up against a well coached, disciplined defense, they do not perform well.
00:28:58
I have noticed that, yes, this team scored 38 45 points against teams, but it's teams like the the Giants, the Raiders.
00:29:10
We just got that talking about the Raiders.
00:29:13
But at the time, Um, let's forget at the time the Raiders defense ain't great.
00:29:18
Ain't, like Superb.
00:29:20
Um, the Panthers.
00:29:22
Yeah, they They put a big points against Green Bay Packers, though.
00:29:29
Yes, the Packers defense's can be questionable at times, though the Packers ain't a really good defense.
00:29:37
They have a decent pass defense and they're run.
00:29:39
Defense is awful.
00:29:41
The run defense is awful.
00:29:43
Now, when you look at like the Bears and the three losses they've got, You know, the Bears and the two Saints game.
00:29:51
Those air defense is that got after Tom Brady made him hurry.
00:29:55
His throws made him incredibly uncomfortable.
00:29:57
I think this is a game that you're going to see, Ah, lot of similar situations with the Rams doing the exact same thing.
00:30:03
I think what we're looking at two is you're looking at a Rams defense that is a top five in every single category.
00:30:09
In fact, there top four in every category but rushing yards and you've got a Tampa Bay offense that's 15th and yards per game, 21st in the rush, their ninth and passing 15 points.
00:30:21
You know, on the 15th and third down percentage is, but on the flip side, you've got a buck's defense.
00:30:27
That's a top 10 and everything but third down percentage, their fourth in yards per ninth and passing second in rushing defense, ninth in points per game.
00:30:36
Eso you've got to.
00:30:37
That's why I think we are going to see a defensive battle between these two teams today, and and I think this is going to come down to Who's the better coach Sean McVeigh or Bruce Arians? Yeah, no That's a great point.
00:30:51
I was actually gonna bring that up that I think whoever coaches better will probably end up winning this game.
00:30:57
Um, I for some reason.
00:30:59
And maybe I'm crazy doing this.
00:31:00
I'm gonna put my faith in a Bruce Areas that he's actually going to get his head out of his ass.
00:31:04
Like you said Ray and say, you know what? Maybe I need to stop playing like we have Jamis Winston, we have Tom Brady.
00:31:10
Let's just throw the slot receivers, throw the Gronk, make him feel comfortable.
00:31:15
Um, but again, I don't know, because of Bruce Arians gets into himself.
00:31:20
He you know, it could be trouble for this Bucks team and, uh, you know, probably end up as a loss, but I'm still gonna roll with the bucks.
00:31:27
I get what you guys were saying, but I just think that I I can't see a scenario that Tom Brady knows that he needs to needs a win, and he just comes up short and again.
00:31:37
So, I mean, they're not fighting for a playoff spot right now.
00:31:39
They're very comfortably in a wild card spot.
00:31:41
But you're talking about going on the road basically from the whole playoffs.
00:31:46
Exactly.
00:31:47
So what are the odds makers gonna put toe where? At some point in this game, Tom Brady is going to go? Can't hear you working off.
00:31:59
I'll call it in the huddle a little.
00:32:03
Call it. We're good.
00:32:04
Yeah.
00:32:05
No, I mean and that's, you know, listen, one thing that Josh McDaniels did very well to was new When to give the game to Brady.
00:32:12
Like when they went No huddle.
00:32:13
There was no pre called plays.
00:32:14
Brady called it on the line.
00:32:16
He looked at the defense.
00:32:17
He looked at the pre snap and he called it on the line.
00:32:19
And that's why a Patriots no huddle offense wasn't a quick offense.
00:32:23
It was just to the line quick, but they could stand there for 15 seconds because Brady would be looking at the defense surveying.
00:32:28
Here's what we're gonna call on.
00:32:30
I think at some point you need you have Tom Brady.
00:32:33
I'm gonna see you have Tom Brady.
00:32:36
Let him be Tom Brady.
00:32:37
You know what? He doesn't have the arm to throw it 40 yards every play, but he has the He has the mind toe.
00:32:44
Look at a defense and go with that offensive quarter.
00:32:47
They haven't be like, You know what, boys? I know exactly how to pick this team apart, you know, And five and six yard on the death get YAC yards.
00:32:54
You know, let let the guys run with the football.
00:32:57
It's And that's what Bruce Arians needs to do.
00:33:00
He needs suggest he needs to get back to basics here and and win football games because yeah, ah, loss.
00:33:05
Today, the division is out and they might be going on the road and playing Philadelphia.
00:33:09
You know, the only say in Philadelphia, the only saving grace to keep Tampa Bay in the playoffs with a loss today is the fact that the leader of the NFC has three wins or NFC East has three wins.
00:33:24
Yeah, I don't think they're fighting for a playoff spot today.
00:33:25
I think they're pretty secure, but it'll put them in the wild card, right.
00:33:28
It will be on the road for the rest with on.
00:33:31
You don't wanna be, do you don't wanna You don't want that if you're Tampa Bay because you could end up Listen, I don't care what you how the NFC finishes.
00:33:40
I don't care how bad the teams were playing.
00:33:42
Once playoff time comes, anybody, the worst team can win.
00:33:46
The Giants went to two Super Bowls in two years that they probably shouldn't have.
00:33:51
And I don't want to go to Philadelphia in the playoffs.
00:33:54
Even if there are five win team, I just don't want to do it.
00:33:56
You know, like it's there's just certain things.
00:33:59
And Philadelphia is also a thorn in Tom Brady side because I think I don't I think since he beat them in the Super Bowl, I don't think he has another win against Philly.
00:34:08
I mean, the Giants are three and seven and can legitimately be in the playoffs this year.
00:34:12
Okay, so he's not Write him off again on listen.
00:34:16
That's not a team that Brady would want to face in the playoffs.
00:34:20
A.
00:34:21
He's got bad history against the Giants be.
00:34:24
There's a guy who coaches that team who knows Tom Brady pretty well.
00:34:28
You know, that's a guy who's seen Tom Brady a couple of times, so it's Yeah, I know if I'm them, this is a must win for Tampa in the same way it is for the Rams, who I think still, you know, are still in a good position to make the playoffs.
00:34:39
But, you know, you don't wanna have to visit New Orleans in Seattle, right? You want to try to have the home field advantage bring them out to California to I mean, playing an empty stadium is the way you play anyway, so you're used to it.
00:34:50
You don't wanna have to go and go on the road, and especially for them.
00:34:55
I mean, you don't have to go to the East Coast, right? You don't want to.
00:34:58
You know, that's where you don't want that time that that time change, right? It's a really, really interesting dynamic.
00:35:05
It's it's kind of funny when you break it down.
00:35:07
Okay, I want your guy's opinion on this.
00:35:08
Like I look at the A F C and think even like the four and six Patriots would be competing in the NFC right now.
00:35:16
You know, like if you could take all our bottom, not are bottom feeders, but all the A F C teams who are out of the playoff picture put them over in the NFC and they'd all be fighting for a playoff spot right now? Yeah, E said not not the bottom feeder is not the not little but middling teams.
00:35:36
And, you know, and it's been a while that because the the NFC was the dominant division for a while, a long time there.
00:35:43
And now it seems that the A f C is really all the way around when you look at I mean, when you look at a struggling Baltimore, I'd put them up against any NFC team there.
00:35:51
You know what I mean? I mean, okay, you're gonna struggle against Green Bay and, like, every team will know what I mean in New Orleans.
00:35:57
And but there's only a few teams that you really put, you know that you say Okay, could get the best of Baltimore.
00:36:02
Otherwise they would run that they would run all over that conference.
00:36:06
Yet in the A f. C.
00:36:07
They're going up against a team after team after team, even four and six teams that are beating them, right, because I think the whole division is good.
00:36:15
Well, I mean, to put it in perspective, to put it in perspective, the A F C South paste, the NFC North this year and the cold sweat the entire division.
00:36:25
So and that's including with that Green Bay win last night.
00:36:28
They swept that whole division.
00:36:30
So it's It's kind of a and the court are not considered, you know, the top team, or even in the same conversation with the top teams in the A F. C right now.
00:36:43
So that that's that speaks volumes.
00:36:45
The since since we're talking about the North, can we all finally concede? Because I know I've been this guy all year, but there's been some argument back me.
00:36:59
Can we finally concede that the Bears were who I thought they were, you know, and everybody was letting them off the **** hook.
00:37:05
And now it's, you know, it's they're finally starting.
00:37:08
It wasn't really you guys, but there was other people arguing for the Chicago Bears and their winning.
00:37:12
They're winning.
00:37:13
Yeah, and I just kept saying It's a mirage.
00:37:16
I don't care if they go eight.
00:37:17
No, this is a mirage.
00:37:19
And now what? They're five and five now, right there.
00:37:20
Finally back toe normal.
00:37:22
I've always said this bear teams got a great defensive line.
00:37:26
They've got a couple weapons on the offensive.
00:37:29
They need an offensive line terribly.
00:37:32
Terror, I think, with an offensive line.
00:37:34
Chicago is a competitive team.
00:37:37
Yeah, that's just my opinion.
00:37:39
I still have no faith in Midst Robiskie or Nick Falls.
00:37:42
Yeah, I mean, I get that, but I think that makes like 10 times easier when you have a run game and protection.
00:37:50
That's because I think if they could effectively run the football than those two guys could Game manage and throw the ball 20 times a game and run the football.
00:37:58
You know the rest.
00:37:59
But if it came down to a game where you go down by two scores right away now the run game comes out of the equation.
00:38:04
I don't trust those two quarterbacks toe.
00:38:06
I know Falls has his moments.
00:38:08
I know he has his, you know, Nick Foles moments.
00:38:10
But in the for a long haul, I don't trust those two guys toe have to bail bail out the team because every quarterback at some point has to bail the team out two or three times a season.
00:38:19
You know what I mean? Where it's it's just they go down by two scores and you might pull the team out after, but you go down by two scores.
00:38:24
Your quarterback has to come and start throwing the football and and and getting those points back in your direction.
00:38:30
Eso um sorry to take this over, but I figured since we did the A f.
00:38:35
C who we think will be the first seed.
00:38:37
What if we do it for the NFC? If you guys want to, I mean, because I'm looking at these teams and there's not really a team that's you could really consider, like, dominant, like the Steelers or the Chiefs on the A F.
00:38:50
C, right? I mean, the Saints right now are the number one seed, but are they gonna be able to keep playing the way that they are? I know Taysom Hill played well, but how long is that gonna last? And the Packers? You know, they have shown some *** in their armor.
00:39:04
And then the Seahawks, Who do you guys think like is the top tier of the NFC after, uh, 11.
00:39:13
Yeah, I've got Green Bay now, because now they've got Chicago, Philly, Detroit, Carolina, and then the 27th they played Tennessee.
00:39:22
Then they have Chicago again.
00:39:24
Um, Tennessee, to me, is the only team that really I know Carolina's having their moments, but to me, Tennessee is the only team that really challenges them in that division.
00:39:34
Um, now, this was that.
00:39:36
This is without me looking at the other team schedules, but I look a Green Bay and think that they have the run.
00:39:41
I wanna look at the Saints here.
00:39:43
Of course.
00:39:44
No Drew Brees.
00:39:45
We don't know how long Taysom Hill can hold off.
00:39:48
I mean, he could do this rest of the season and surprise us, but they've got Denver, Atlanta, Philly, Kansas City, Minnesota, Carolina at Carolina, that's a divisional game.
00:39:57
They have to face Kansas City.
00:39:59
Um, Minnesota's the team I never sleep on because they lose the game.
00:40:02
They're supposed toe win and they win the game.
00:40:05
They're supposed to lose.
00:40:06
You never know what Minnesota team is going to show up that day, and then the I guess the other team would be the Seahawks, who again are a team that I don't trust because you never know what Seahawks team is going to show up.
00:40:17
They have San Francisco, then they have no sorry.
00:40:20
I'm looking at the wrong school.
00:40:21
Already been they got New York in New York, Jesus, Washington, San Francisco, and they got the Rams.
00:40:29
So it could be the Seahawks to be because I'm looking at the Rams, who are just a game behind.
00:40:34
And they got obviously Tampa, then the Niners, then the Cardinals.
00:40:39
Then you guys, the Patriots, then the Jets.
00:40:42
They're only easy game, in my opinion, and then Seattle and then Arizona again.
00:40:47
I mean, my goodness, it's like their entire division is in the last half of their their schedule.
00:40:53
That's awful.
00:40:54
That's tough.
00:40:55
What is Tampa schedule look like? Because if they could get through the Rams tonight, let's see.
00:41:01
I had it pulled up.
00:41:02
Let me bring it up here again.
00:41:05
So they got the Chiefs next week.
00:41:07
Then they got the Vikings come into town.
00:41:09
They got to go to Atlanta.
00:41:11
Then they got to go to Detroit, and then they got Atlanta once again in Tampa.
00:41:15
You know, that's not That's not an easy run for Tampa Bay, either.
00:41:18
So now I gotta go.
00:41:19
Seattle, just with that schedule that it's easier than Green Bay's.
00:41:22
I mean, they're probably only lost if they lose, comes to the Rams.
00:41:25
If it happens And do they beat them twice? You know? Probably not.
00:41:30
It was like Kansas City in Vegas, you know, it's close, I said.
00:41:32
I just can't see Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes losing the Vegas twice.
00:41:36
You know, it's just depending upon what kind of defense you see from Seattle popping up from time to time.
00:41:42
And that's the issue, because it ain't gonna be running.
00:41:46
They're not gonna be running the ball versus Rams will tell you that much.
00:41:48
We're not going to see a balanced offense that with Seattle against the Rams.
00:41:53
True that.
00:41:54
What if? Just imagine a scenario where the 5 10 and one Philadelphia Eagles take the underdog story again and say, You know what? We're gonna go to the Super Bowl as a 51 team because screw everybody else in the league.
00:42:08
That would just be crazy.
00:42:10
I would like to see it.
00:42:11
I wouldn't be able to handle Eagles fans.
00:42:14
I mean, you listen, you guys didn't play them in the Super Bowl.
00:42:18
You think Chiefs fans, which which is probably my most hated fan base, second most hated Nothing compares.
00:42:24
Two Eagles fans, man, they are like they make Pittsburgh fans look calm and tame and just the Eagles are nuts.
00:42:32
Man, I couldn't handle the e.
00:42:34
I don't know, because man I have to side with with Joe on the Steelers are I mean, when when you have I have never gained, like just bad, bad trolls in my life until I started talking to Steelers fans.
00:42:55
I'll tell you what, I'm going to screenshot all the comments that have been hidden from YouTube because YouTube filtered them when the when the Patriots were facing the Eagles. I will.
00:43:06
I will screenshot all 1000 comments in a one week span that got filtered by YouTube and I will show you the things that was said to me by Eagles Fans will prepare.
00:43:16
I mean, like, 98% of the NFL fans don't like the Patriots anyhow, so that kind of Oh, but these were Eagles fans because they all had their Eagles pictures.
00:43:27
Trust me, people say things.
00:43:31
There was a lot of comments about my ***** in these, uh, in these comments, so yes, so trust me.
00:43:38
Trust me, Lawrence, you have not been trolled until you get trolled by the Eagles fan base.
00:43:44
I've been trolled by every fan base because we played every team.
00:43:46
Since I've started this YouTube thing, you have not been trolled until you've been trouble.
00:43:50
Do ah do, ah, video on a on a legend Philly player and say that he's bad and just throw his his negative stuff and I will go and then you come back to me and tell me what you think of the Philly fan base.
00:44:02
Don't.
00:44:03
Don't forget, this is a This is a fan base that the city had to grease the polls before the Super Bowl so they wouldn't climb them.
00:44:10
And also the whole Santa Claus thing.
00:44:12
So they threw batteries that Santa Claus batteries.
00:44:15
They threw batteries that Doug Peterson when he was the backup quarterback in Philadelphia.
00:44:20
This is the city that ran Andy Reid out of town.
00:44:23
This is the city that ran Donovan McNabb out of town.
00:44:26
It's Ah, it's Philly is tucked.
00:44:29
Dude, I went to a Philly baseball game, and it was It was a tough scene, man.
00:44:36
No, Philly fans are their intense.
00:44:38
They're passionate there, a passionate fan base, but they are intense.
00:44:41
It kind of makes me think of like, uh like soccer like some of the like, North Manchester fans and things like that.
00:44:49
You know, um, where I'm look atyou, bringing out the soccer referee.
00:44:55
What? What is going on? You've been watching kicking it.
00:45:00
Actually, um, I have some very close friends that live in Europe, and I get a little bit from once in a while about about soccer and Oh, my God.
00:45:15
You could have just credited kicking it and said, Absolutely, Ray, that's what I'm e was there.
00:45:21
You watch the ad comment that I was shocked.
00:45:23
I think I stopped.
00:45:24
And I was like, Oh, my God.
00:45:25
Lawrence E.
00:45:29
Well, you know, I mean, I gotta spread out here.
00:45:34
I can't just do just NFL all the time.
00:45:37
Uh, e we're gonna be talking about, you know, it's, um or you know what? On on the Thursday night show, I'm gonna have Lawrence make his predictions for the Bundesliga on the weekend e so I wouldn't even know not only make the prediction.
00:45:54
I'm gonna make him read the names of the team's Oh, I couldn't do that like Hoffenheim i e.
00:46:01
I would be typing it into google.
00:46:03
Translate, making the auto voice come out I was doing something with somebody, but with basketball and right before I went on, I was like writing like, how do you fanatically announced pronounce this name? You know, like, that's what I was googling like fanatically announced this names or pronounce his name so I don't look like an idiot.
00:46:24
Get on that.
00:46:26
That's what I gotta do when I when I don't recognize some of the names.
00:46:31
Even in the NFL, you you're like, How do I pronounce that name? I go to YouTube and get an interview from that person.
00:46:37
I don't care if it's college, you know, And that way you hear whoever it is, asked that person by name, and then I get it.
00:46:45
So I got a question for you guys.
00:46:46
Is your team do this to every year? Because it does.
00:46:48
It's a patriot suit to me.
00:46:49
Every year they always either sign or draft the guy that somebody like.
00:46:54
What do you think of this guy? You know, or what do you think of the new tackle? And I'll go? Oh, Mike.
00:46:59
Oh, no, Mike On on, uh, I'm a weenie. We on.
00:47:06
Every year they get I'm like, Can you just get Smith.
00:47:12
All right? That was alumina.
00:47:14
Or for when we always took him.
00:47:15
Did you hear that story, Lawrence? Uh, that I found Joe way before we even though I think knew it SportsCastr was because I didn't know how to pronounce alumina.
00:47:24
Or so I found his livestream talking about him.
00:47:26
The trade with Was it a trader are cutting a probably. Yeah.
00:47:33
And he was talking about the trade, and I clicked on Joe's video to find out how to say aluminum, and he was calling him aluminum.
00:47:38
But I was like, No, how do you say his name? His actual name? Well, in order to get tongue of I low, uh, I had to actually go on and and listen to his father.
00:47:51
You mean a name that doesn't have an end in it but has an end pronounced e I still, like all the time.
00:47:59
Calm tag A viola like don't calm tango Viola.
00:48:02
I know E No, I go with to all the time.
00:48:07
There was another guy.
00:48:08
I was doing draft prospects a couple years ago for a tight end.
00:48:10
And who did he? He was a Hawaiian guy.
00:48:13
He's a tight end, and his grandmother actually commented on my YouTube page because he had, like, a Hawaiian or Samoa name.
00:48:23
And I just butchered it like, just absolutely butchered it.
00:48:26
And she commented and said, That's my grandson Like to follow everything he does.
00:48:29
Thank you for the next video.
00:48:31
Here's how you say his name and she fanatically put it out for me.
00:48:34
What the hell was? And I didn't know.
00:48:36
So I messaged him and said, Was this actually your grandmother? I I d m them on instagram.
00:48:41
He wrote back.
00:48:42
He's like, Yeah, that's my grandma.
00:48:43
She comments everything on YouTube.
00:48:45
Uh, what the hell was his name? He's And I just saw him.
00:48:49
He's on the i.
00:48:50
R.
00:48:51
This year.
00:48:52
Might be on the i r.
00:48:53
With who? Know how my mama knew.
00:48:55
We know that's the only one that I know.
00:48:59
He never went to the Patriots.
00:49:00
I think he went to the Seahawks.
00:49:02
Uh, I cannot remember his name.
00:49:05
Now I'm just gonna look up their roster. You guys talk.
00:49:08
I'm gonna look up and find this guy.
00:49:09
Okay? All right.
00:49:10
Now, I've had some some names that I have issues pronouncing and I'll end up just saying like Tommy seek.
00:49:18
Yeah, you know, or something like that, because I mean, butchering a name is butchering a name, and you don't wanna do that.
00:49:24
Well, T J.
00:49:25
Houshmandzadeh was one of those names that I just couldn't get, like for a while.
00:49:29
And then finally, okay, after he went to the Ravens, that's when I started picking it.
00:49:33
You say how? Yeah, how Cashman's a day like, Yeah, there's some names that I'm just like Jesus, Can you not just make up like, Oh, I get mad at Belichick someday.
00:49:45
It's not to see how it's Khalil.
00:49:48
I can't remember it, Z, I'm upset now because I was so proud that his grandmother watch so on.
00:49:57
And and I wanna make this very, very clear.
00:49:59
We're not hearing his name of anyone's name here.
00:50:02
No, no, no, not making fun.
00:50:04
It's just because of where we're at, uh, in our own language.
00:50:09
It is very difficult sometimes to pronunciation, other people's names, the Texans, Cali, Kelly or war.
00:50:17
Okay on.
00:50:18
And I was calling them ****tail.
00:50:20
That's what I was going.
00:50:21
I was calling him ****tail warring and it Zika Hailey Hailey warring because in the YouTube videos.
00:50:28
They call them Kajal warring, and it was grandmothers like It's not ****tail, it's Cali and she'd fanatically put it out for me.
00:50:34
He's on the IRA's place for the Texans.
00:50:37
Like there's like my name Lawrence.
00:50:39
It's got a W in it.
00:50:40
So I wanna know how Germans would pronounce my name.
00:50:43
You know? I mean, this Lawrence E.
00:50:48
First of all, Lawrence is a is a dramatic name.
00:50:53
So they would tell you, Lawrence, Um, no, it's It's like my name. My name is Raymond.
00:50:58
You know what I mean when you look at it, but it's not, it's not spelled crime.
00:51:02
And for some reason, we have, uh, in our name.
00:51:05
I had a Chilean, uh, had a Chilean babies.
00:51:08
They're growing up. They called me Raymondo.
00:51:10
There you go, Raimondo.
00:51:12
But, you know, Germans air whack because, like my name, my name is route and it spelled R au th we have when my family came to North America.
00:51:20
Instead of putting an accent over the T like we have my name is actually are a U. T with an accent.
00:51:25
My grandfather, my great great grandfather, just added an H and got really accent.
00:51:30
Somehow that was gonna make things easier for the Canadians, which it hasn't.
00:51:34
Because I never once, even when I look at it like Roth, you know, Rod e honestly, right When I when I introduced myself to people in business, I just say Roth, because it's just easier for them to, Because if I say route and then they look at my name, I start getting route trout throughout the Ruth I hate you.
00:51:56
Know what you wanna hear? The I know we're going off way off topic, but I get emails all the time from people that say hi, Ruth like age.
00:52:05
And I'm like, my name is Ray Rail.
00:52:08
Why does everybody call me Ruth when they see e? That's all anyways.
00:52:13
Well, I mean, when I order food and they asked for a name, I give them.
00:52:17
I say Owen, because they can't spell.
00:52:20
No one spells Lawrence correctly so and it's just easier just to put w e happy that you went by Lawrence because I don't know a lot of Lawrence's.
00:52:29
I know a lot of Larry's.
00:52:30
You what? I mean, I don't know.
00:52:33
Lawrence author.
00:52:34
I know a lot of people like I know people whose name is Lawrence, but they go by Larry or Layer you what? I mean, but you actually talked it with Lawrence.
00:52:41
My like my I had a teacher tryto call me Larry.
00:52:45
And my dad was in the when in elementary school and my dad what has happened to been in there and he said, No, you do not call him Larry.
00:52:51
He call him Lawrence.
00:52:52
That's what I named him.
00:52:53
That's what's on his person certification.
00:52:55
So I stuck with it because I respect my father.
00:52:57
My dad, my father tried that.
00:53:01
My father tried, uh, to keep Raymond like no, call him Raymond my teachers like, but he's the one who keeps telling us to call him Ray.
00:53:10
And we got we have when we have went off the rails.
00:53:13
Man, we have just I hope you guys got something out of this last 10 minutes because not everybody way did.
00:53:20
We did so that z Absolutely.
00:53:24
And and Thomas mhm, I'm sure, is Brady's first name, Thomas, because I would love to start calling him that Thomas Edward Patrick Break.
00:53:35
Thomas Edward Patrick Brady.
00:53:37
There we go there.
00:53:39
Well, because Skip Bayless says it all the time.
00:53:42
Yeah, that's why he he can use Wikipedia to all right.
00:53:47
I'm calling him Thomas for now on just because it's respect to use the actual name that's on the birth certificate Mass Brady.
00:53:56
Alright, guys.
00:53:58
Alright, It's been 54 minutes.
00:53:59
We got way off target.
00:54:01
Let's get some score predictions, Joe.
00:54:04
What are you looking at? Score prediction wise, right? Well, this could be I think this will be a little bit of a lower scoring game.
00:54:15
I don't think that either of these teams air putting over, let's say 25.
00:54:19
I think that this could be like a 24 21 type of game, maybe a 24 16 type of game.
00:54:28
You know that someone tries to score at the end of the game, but they're not unable to, but I'm still gonna roll with the bucks.
00:54:34
I'm gonna say bucks 24 21.
00:54:37
Like I said, their backs are against the wall, and I think they come out.
00:54:41
I think the defense clamps up, and, uh, yeah, I think that the offense is has enough talent, and they should be able to move the ball on this Rams defense.
00:54:50
So this game, with seconds, seconds left is going to be tied 20 to 20.
00:55:03
And Matt Gray, Matt Gay.
00:55:07
Matt Gay, That's the kicker for the marriage is gonna come out and win the game 23 20 with a 38 yard field goal for the Rams.
00:55:16
That is my That is my prediction for this game.
00:55:18
You put a dollar on that exact prediction.
00:55:21
You'll probably win 150,000.
00:55:23
Uh, you want 100 grand on his vets? What is Yeah, 200 grand and bets this week.
00:55:31
What is? What's a good, bad bet? Bet dot com? I'll do it.
00:55:33
I'll put a buck on that exact scenario.
00:55:36
Yeah, right that You know what? I bet you there's a website somewhere that has that scenario that I could bet on.
00:55:43
What doubt it.
00:55:45
It's probably drop drag stuff, but, um, no, I I'm kind of Thorn.
00:55:52
I am.
00:55:53
I'm a little bit thorn because at times this Rams defense has looked ah, little bit iffy when it comes to the run game.
00:56:00
But at the same time, this past defense is phenomenal, especially with Ramsey and and Donald up there in the middle because we all know what a three tech can do.
00:56:10
Teoh a quarterback if he gets pressure.
00:56:13
And Donald's the best of doing that.
00:56:16
So I am going to go with the Rams in this game.
00:56:20
I I kind of agree with you guys.
00:56:22
I don't see anyone blowing anyone out in this game at all.
00:56:28
I don't, um but yeah, I'm gonna say it's it's probably gonna be somewhere around what you guys were saying, You know, low twenties.
00:56:38
Um, So Rand's I'm gonna put a safety in there somewhere.
00:56:47
23.
00:56:48
21.
00:56:49
Okay.
00:56:50
Hey, you got to say 2020 with final seconds on a kick.
00:56:55
Where did the safety come, though? How did you get a? There's no way of safety equals those numbers.
00:57:02
Three touchdowns in the safety is 23 I guess.
00:57:08
Think game's gonna end on the safety.
00:57:11
I was trying to put the Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:57:17
Oh, this This show is so Doug, make a make a profile.
00:57:21
Don't be a freeloader.
00:57:22
Follow Joe.
00:57:23
Follow Lawrence.
00:57:24
It's really simple up there.
00:57:25
You guys have heard the pitch over and over and over again.
00:57:28
We've gone 57 minutes.
00:57:30
We've talked about names.
00:57:31
We've talked about our names.
00:57:32
We've talked about safeties and field goals.
00:57:36
Joe had therapy tonight.
00:57:37
He's been on for the last 4.5 hours.
00:57:39
It's time to go, Lawrence. Yep.
00:57:41
Everybody, thank you so much for watching the stream.
00:57:44
We appreciate you being here.
00:57:46
Enjoy the game.
00:57:47
That looks to be a good one coming up.
00:57:50
I know I will.
00:57:51
I'm sure that these guys will is well, except for maybe Joe.
00:57:54
Um, I don't know where you're gonna be watching the game, Joe.
00:57:58
I should Yeah.
00:57:59
I just finished everything I need to do, so I'll probably be watching it.
00:58:02
It would be good therapy watching someone else get beat.
00:58:05
Probably.
00:58:07
At least you don't Gotta watch out the Steelers tonight. Win a game.
00:58:10
Oh, man.
00:58:11
Yeah.
00:58:12
Watching on Thursday, Probably what my teams asked.
00:58:14
So that's what I have to see.
00:58:15
It's another confidence.
00:58:17
How can I be confident and then you could watch the Detroit game? Uh huh.
00:58:25
Right.
00:58:26
Duh. Hey.
00:58:28
Okay. I know. We gotta go.
00:58:29
Can I ask you guys one question, though.
00:58:30
I read an article last week.
00:58:32
It's time for the lions to give up the Thanksgiving Day game.
00:58:36
Are you guys traditionalists? Or is that team just like enough is enough? Put somebody else in there I have had I have sat down and watched Lions football on Thanksgiving every Thanksgiving with my father since I was a little boy.
00:58:51
I don't want that to change Joe, not tradition's tradition.
00:58:56
I'm with you guys, man.
00:58:57
Just do you know why the lines and the Cowboys and the only two team, or are the two teams that are the only two teams that always play on Thanksgiving? No.
00:59:05
Because back in the day when they wanted have Thanksgiving games were the only two teams that agreed to play.
00:59:10
Yeah, but the Lions and the Cowboys are the only two teams that agreed back in the day that they would play on like no problems playing on Thanksgiving.
00:59:21
And that's why they kept them a ZA two teams to play every Thanksgiving.
00:59:25
No, I agree with you guys.
00:59:26
This tradition, like I was saying, Lawrence off air.
00:59:28
Thursday is just a day for me up here in Canada, but I will take Thursday off because there's a full day of football.
00:59:34
I'm not gonna go work when there's a full day of football.
00:59:36
So I will be off watching football.
00:59:38
And yes, I agree.
00:59:39
I'm the same as you guys.
00:59:40
I've watched Detroit in Dallas.
00:59:42
My whole life is well, and because that's the only my dad, you supposed out of school when we were kids to be home on Thanksgiving, the watch football.
00:59:49
So I will be.
00:59:50
I want those games remain as well.
00:59:52
I just read the article and thought I'd ask you guys because I found it curious that it was even being brought up.
00:59:57
All right, well, thanks, everybody for watching.
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