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Toronto's Pride and Joy Ray route has teamed up with Boston heartthrob Connor Carney to bring you DPM commentary A SportsCastr featured podcast Join these two Bill Belichick band boys talking about the greatest team in NFL history every Tuesday and Thursday night Live on SportsCastr at 9 p.m. Eastern.
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And now, for the thousands of attendants and patriots fans from all over the world of podcasts that nobody asked for is DPM commentary with Ray and Connor and we are back.
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Yes, we are, Ladies and gentlemen, My name is Ray Route.
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That man is Connor Carney, This is DPM Commentary Postgame Edition live here on SportsCastr.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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DPM Commentary is a SportsCastr featured a podcast.
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Connor.
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How you feeling, buddy? Disappointed? That's the main feeling right now the wind has been taken out of my sails.
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Uh, we did.
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We set the people up for failure this week.
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Connor did we set people up for disappointment? Like because you and I We we boosted.
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We boasted we celebrated.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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They're gonna They're gonna beat the Texans.
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I mean, this wasn't even We were looking down the road, right? Yep.
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This was.
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This was supposed to be an easy check.
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The box of the wind.
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What happened to Shawn Watson? But not stop the guy.
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And I'm happy you said that because sometimes Connor, sometimes the other team just plays better.
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That's pretty much what happens.
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Would you? Would you say the Patriots played bad today? I don't I don't know It did.
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That's the frustrating thing.
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Is it? They didn't look.
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They didn't play poorly.
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They've looked much worse many times than the season.
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I honestly thought they played a pretty decent game.
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Um, defense was all right to Shawn Watson through all over him, but some of those passes were just absolutely perfect.
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Yeah, there was plays throughout that game where the passing had to be pinpoint.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, and he was pinpoint. Perfect.
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Exactly.
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There were a few plays where it wasn't even that.
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You know, the, um I'm trying to say it wasn't even that the coverage was that poor was just that he fit it right into a perfectly tight window.
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Now, you can't say that the game was perfect for the Patriots and that Shawn Watson beat them.
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I mean, definitely not the pass rush was not existing.
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Now I want to talk a little bit about that pass rush.
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Was that a case of the Patriots having a bad pass rusher? Is that a little bit of D Shawn Watson? Because to me, this is what it looked like.
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He stood in the pocket, forced everybody to come in and trying to collapse that pocket.
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And as they committed themselves in, he would take himself out and moved from the pocket.
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There was nobody left on him.
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E think that Chase win a ***** got to him one time and got a hand on him and he was able to get away.
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Is that more about the Patriots pass rush? Not being effective? Or was that Maurer of the Patriots coaching staff? A unit we don't call out, ever.
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Not adapting to what the Shawn Watson was doing and changing how they rushed him honestly, Yeah, probably was the second of the two.
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It probably was the coaching staff not making the correct adjustments because it was clear that even like you said when they did kind of get some pressure on him, he avoided it.
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No problem.
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It's like that, Guys, I don't know how he does.
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It's like he's covered in butter or something.
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He just slips out of any tackle they might have. Anyways.
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A lot of people were putting this game on Cam Newton.
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It confused me.
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Can you look at this game and say, this is I mean, I think out of the U.
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S.
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Okay, so you and I have been the most optimistic Patriot fans throughout this season.
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I don't think there was any more to people who defended this team more than you and I.
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But I think when it comes to Cam Newton as an individual, I think I was probably the one who was the most optimistic and the biggest defender, Cam Newton.
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You weren't ready to commit to him long term.
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You were critical of him at times.
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Even when I was defending him.
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In his worst moments, could you look it? So I want to take myself out of the equation because I know him a bit of ah, you know, a Cam Newton Fanboy.
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Can you look at this game today and say this was Cam Newton's fault? No, I mean, he threw for what, 360 yards.
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They moved the ball down the field consistently, and I honestly expected them to run the ball all over them.
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They barely ran the ball they through the entire time, and part of it was because they were losing for most of the game.
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They were trailing and they had to keep up with the Shawn Watson, who after the Patriots first drive, which is a phenomenal drive, by the way, they started out great.
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They I don't think they had the lead again the rest of the game.
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They were playing from behind the entire time and he was just trying to keep up.
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They were playing from behind, but this that's what irritated me because they were never like behind.
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They went behind by two scores, but they already started throwing the football way before.
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They were still 77 when they started throwing the football, and that's what got irritating to me because they trailed the Jets for most of the game and kept running the football.
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Uh, they had lots of time to continue playing their game.
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What I wanna know is is was Damian Harris injured? That was my piece and did they have to? Because he's, I would hope I would hope not because they made Sony Michelle a healthy scratch.
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So if they knew that he was injured, I don't know how much sense that would have made.
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But what Sony Michelle actually a healthy scratch? Sony.
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Michelle just came off of the I. R.
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Right.
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Um, I read an article this morning that said Stefan Gilmore and Damian Harris are believed to be playing, which means Damian Harris was in question of playing this game.
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I don't think that Sony Michelle I know everybody looked I know that I even, uh, Mike Reiss came out after Sony.
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Michelle's a healthy scratch and said Damian Harris, RB one I think that Sony Michelle is still dealing with some lingering effects of his injury, and that's why he was a healthy scratch.
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Because if Harris was beat up and there was question, who's gonna play the game, why would you not have Sony Michelle in there to help Kind of exactly take some of that pressure off him, and I mean, you and I talked all week about we can see the tandem between Sony Michelle and Damian Harris.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So it's either one of two things.
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Damian Harris was banged up and he couldn't run the football effectively.
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And then, after Rex Burkhead went out, prayers to Rexburg had.
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Absolutely, man, that Patriots are fearing it's an A C l, which means they probably be done for the year.
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That could, because that could have been his last game is a patriot.
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I hope not.
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But it could have been.
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Yeah, it definitely could have done.
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And but back to it a little bit if Damian Harris got banged up.
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I wonder if something happened on that first drive because he went five Russians for 25 yards and a touchdown on the first drive of the game.
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I mean, I tweeted out.
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Josh McDaniels had a brilliant game plan to start that game, and then everything just got weird.
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After that, they it did.
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I don't know what the factoring was behind it, but that first drive there was so well balanced they ran the ball great.
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They threw, they threw it when they needed to and then after that they just they abandoned the run basically, and I think what was frustrating for me on my side was all week we talked about the Patriots offensive line and their run game going up against the weakest run defense in the NFL.
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I mean, Connor, you couldn't try to convince me that Cam Newton was gonna come out throwing the football for 360 yards.
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No matter how much you tried against me, I'd say there's no way that's the Patriots game plan. Nope.
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I thought it was gonna be drastically less.
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I thought he was gonna go for, like, 200 yards, and it was gonna be very heavy dose of Damian Harris.
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And I think Damian Harris had, what, 11 carries? I'll pull up the stats.
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That's what I thought it was.
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The Patriots have 86 yards total in rushing against the worst rush defense in the NFL.
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Damian Harris had 11 carries for 43 yards, averaging 3.
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9 yards per carry.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's It's I didn't get it, and to me it has to be injury.
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That's the only thing I can think about.
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Yeah, that.
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I mean, that's the only thing that would make sense.
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I don't know why else they were just abandoned the game plan that they looked like they had on the first drive.
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I mean, the Patriots still ran the ball 26 times.
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Yeah.
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James White had five carries.
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Rex Burkhead had four carries.
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Newton had three carries.
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Dimier Bird had to carry on that sort of that end around, so they still ran the ball 26 times.
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But through it 40 times.
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Yeah, that I was not expecting anything like that.
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40 pass attempts.
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Cam Newton goes 26 for 43 65 1 touchdown, no interceptions.
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He sacked twice.
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He ends up with a quarterback rating of 102.6.
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So that was my confusion of why there's on.
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And I think that that's just people blaming Cam Newton.
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Just the blame Cam Newton. 100%.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't know why this game would be blamed on hand.
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It's not like it was the Denver game of the 40 Niners game, although both of those I think we're still team losses, but this game just can't.
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You can't put this on camp doing.
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If anything, this is more on the defense, and they even made a couple stops when they needed to.
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Um, Shawn Watson, just bullied them on a couple of drives.
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Were you surprised to see Demir Bird is the featured back today and not Jacoby Meyers? Yes, yes, that was huge.
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That was a very pleasant surprise, though. He looks phenomenal.
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I was very surprised at how well he played.
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Six catches for 1 32 had a touchdown on that long bomb.
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So we finally saw Cam Newton throw the deep ball and we and I mean, that was to me that was not just such a That was a really, really good to great throw in an outstanding catch.
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But yeah, I agree completely.
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It's definitely a good throw.
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And then he just a great play on that.
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Jacoby Meyers only goes three for 38.
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Surprised, I was surprised, But now that I think about it, they must have really heavily game plan for Jacoby Meyers.
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And they needed burnt to step up because it's like they took Myers away from the gecko.
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And he did.
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Donte Moncrief makes his first reception today, one for 15.
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Yep, you did.
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That was good to see whatever happened to Isaiah Zuber? That's a good question, because I didn't see that catched by Moncrief at first, and then they were saying it was somebody that just came up from the practice for and I thought it must have been Zuber again.
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But then it was obviously Moncrief.
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Yeah, it was.
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Margaret knows Super wasn't in Nikkila, Harry.
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Five for 41.
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I know We saw him out there.
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He actually had a couple good catches after having a couple of penalties.
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Say, though.
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But I think he gave up 25 yards in penalties first.
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He did? Yeah.
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I mean, he kind of needed to get those 41 yards just to be in the positives.
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His first two contributions this game was a pass interference call in a holding call that negated big place, you know, took place that negated big calls to start the game.
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Let's talk a little bit about Nikkila, Harry, because I was a rampant defender of Nikkila Harry the same way I've been a rampant defender of Sony.
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Michelle and I will I will die on the Sony Michelle Hill.
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Just so everybody knows Sony Michelle is one of the major factors of why the Patriots won the Super Bowl in 2018, So I will die on the Sony Michelle Hill for a long as I can.
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I can't defend McKeel Harry anymore. Conner.
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I can't.
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I can't do it.
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Can you find a reason to defend Nikkila, Harry? Not really.
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I mean, he looked already made a couple catches, couple contributions today.
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What was it five catches for 41 yards? I mean, let's take away the penalties that we're an enormous factor.
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Um, that's still just a very mediocre day.
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And that would be one of his best games to date would be five catches for 41 yards.
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He hasn't lived up anywhere close to what we have expected out of him the past two years.
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The only thing positive I can think is that it's only a year and a half it, and maybe next year he'll finally break out.
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But other than that, he hasn't shown us anything.
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I think what's the most shocking about him is that Cam Newton was so open toe working with him, he was mentoring him.
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He was trying to get in to kill Harry into a stage of life where he was gonna be his go to number.
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And you saw Newton just forcing the football to Cam Newton, and it just kind of fell off the rails, and I want to bring up something interesting that I thought about.
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So when the Patriots were driving at the end of the game, when they're down by seven, the announcer said.
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Now, Cam Newton, we need to see who does he trust? Who is he going to go to the first couple weeks of the season? It was Nikkila Harry.
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Then it was, you know, Then it was Jacoby Meyers.
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Now, today it Zamir Bird, who does he go to? I mean, funnily enough, he went to Ryan is Oh, but on I didn't go through with those catches because they both came at the end of the game.
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But I think he had 56 yards on two catches.
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One.
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That depo.
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Yeah, that didn't make it to the end zone, right? Who does Cam Newton trust in that situation? And you know what? I think I do know who we trust, I would say to Kobe Myers may be to me, a bird.
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No, I think the guy that he trusted the most got carted off out of the blue medical tent with the tourney cl.
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That's actually a good point.
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I think that Rexburg had would have been a major factor in that final drive if he would have been on the field and healthy, right? You e mean, you could see it in a lot of situations.
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Even prior to the injury, he was looking at Birkhead's direction, and we see that game in and game out.
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I've said it all season that Birkhead has been like the spark plug for the Patriots team, and I'm not just saying that because I have his jersey on my wall.
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It's That's who Rex Burkhead was this season.
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This season finally vindicated everything that I've said about Rex Burkhead and what he's able to accomplish for the Patriots, and to me, that's who he trusts the most.
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Now somebody described Cam Newton to me as a game manager.
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He's not who he used to be.
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He's now a game manager.
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Would you consider him a gay manager considering who he's had to work with this year? He's had to work with the mere bird Jacoby Meyers, and I'm not trying to negate those guys.
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But those were his two primary.
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A bust of Nikkila Harry and a broken Julian Edelman.
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That's been his weapon for this season.
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No riel passing game with the tight ends.
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Ryan is oh, the only one who can go out and catch a pass.
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Asea C and Dalton, keen non existent in the past game.
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Yeah, he couldn't be anything more than a game manager, could he? Right at this point.
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Now, when I think gay manager, I think of Alex Smith when he used to play for the 40 Niners, when they had Frank Gore and they just run the ball like 25 30 times a game, employed defense and went like 17 to 13.
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So I mean, with the weapons, the Patriots have almost forced to try and win that way.
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But the defense isn't that strong.
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So now he's getting into like like what happened today.
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He's gotta throw to keep up, but I don't see him as a gay manager now.
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So do you think if Belichick does go out in the offseason, get proper weapons for him? Some sort of tight end who can catch a football outside of Ryan is multiple weapons that they need.
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Now I have a new thing about Ryan is or two.
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If we could talk about him, I believe Ryan ISO could be a big contributor to this Patriots team down the line.
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Okay? They just need to move him out of that number.
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One tight end spot, right? Right there, asking him to play a position that he's not.
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You know, it's not even his fault.
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He's just really not a tight end one.
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That doesn't mean he can't be a tight end to or like, a tight end.
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Three.
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But he's playing in the primary position, you know.
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They're asking them to be more than he is.
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I'd rather him be like the halfback.
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You know, the the HB tight, and I really do.
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I think that he could be a little bit of oven.
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Aaron Hernandez, type of tight end.
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He has the speed.
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He has the strength.
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He has the size.
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The problem is, is when he's got to rub somebody to get off on a route and all this other kind of different stuff, I think that they could move him as the as the tight end to or the tight end three.
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They could involve him or in this game I actually, like Ryan is Oh, I just don't think that they have him in the right position right now, right? Yeah, it's just he doesn't have the talent to do what they want him to do or what we want him to do his fans right now, and we want him to be like a hunter Henry, and to go out there and catch five passes for 80 yards every week.
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He he's just not able to do that right now, currently, and that's what they're asking of him, or that's what we released asking of him.
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So it'll be interesting to see if they could bring somebody in.
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And, you know, he could go back to, like, the number to roll and, well, we'll see what happens.
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All right, um, so our boy Lawrence is on the stream right now.
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What's up? What's up? And he's, uh, he said he's available, so I am going to send him the link.
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Or so I am sending you the link so you can come join us if you'd like Lawrence and we can chat a little bit about this Patriots game.
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But I think I'm beyond the game now.
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Yeah, I thought that Shawn Watson played phenomenal.
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Yeah, he did.
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I don't I don't know how anyone could dispute that.
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Some of those throws were just pinpoint.
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Accurate.
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I avoided.
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He avoided the sax man, he could run the football.
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And that touchdown, he just lowered his shoulder and Howard somebody into the end zone.
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And I think piano was, but yeah.
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No, I'm looking.
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When he ran over Devin Devin McCourty, that's what was that.
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He ran hay just plowed through the 40.
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He made, uh, lots of guys.
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Missan tackles today.
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Yeah.
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Now I'm I want to get more into Oh, yeah.
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Sorry.
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And I know a lot of people.
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That's what I want to just discuss, hit really quickly.
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I know a lot of people are upset with the secondary right now.
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Our boy make chicken blog's is best at the secondary.
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And look, they had moments where the secondary wasn't great, right? But with that lack of pass rush, the Shawn Watson had time to set up a tea party right, and and throw the football At some point when you guys got when you got guys like Fuller and cooks on the team with that kind of speed.
00:18:55
Even after Randall Cobb went out, they're going to get open.
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And I think that's what we saw today.
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So we're gonna bring in our boy Lawrence.
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Special appearance. Unscheduled.
00:19:06
Lawrence, how you doing? Thank you for joining the show.
00:19:09
Thanks for having me.
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I do.
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I'm so sorry that I left you hanging, man.
00:19:12
Don't worries, man.
00:19:14
No worries. I got through it.
00:19:16
I called the end of the Minnesota Dallas game, so it was a little bit interesting.
00:19:21
One. It was.
00:19:22
So I did a little bit of play by play, went through the scores, talked about the game, talked about guys we talked about.
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Maybe I know this is on patriots related.
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Then we'll get we'll roll it back to the Patriots.
00:19:31
But Joe Burrow done for the year with an a c l tear.
00:19:35
So two major a c l tears.
00:19:37
Rex Burkhead Looks like he's out for the season with an A, C l and Joe.
00:19:41
Burrow it with an A c l.
00:19:43
I mean, a tough start to a young career, Lawrence.
00:19:46
I'll go to you first, man.
00:19:48
What could this due to a young quarterback tearing in a C.
00:19:51
L.
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So early into their career.
00:19:54
Oh, that's that's not good.
00:19:56
I I actually seen that when I was watching my game, and I was like, Oh, no, that's That's not good, because A C L it's not terrible for a quarterback, at least, you know? I mean, a mobile quarterback, maybe a little bit, but a c l he should be able to get back you it z early enough in the season that he'll probably be able to start next year.
00:20:20
But at the same time, Uh, that's gonna be in the back of his mind every time there's pressure on him, right for the that.
00:20:27
Next his sop****re season.
00:20:29
Especially the first 4 to 6 weeks he Every time he steps back in that pocket, he's gonna be worried about getting hit low every time.
00:20:37
And that's gonna force him to throw that football even faster than what he's doing now is this Is this not just indicative to my God, get to kid an offensive line? Yeah.
00:20:49
I mean, we've been saying that since week one, Uh, so, yeah, I mean, that's definitely that I should be there.
00:20:57
Priority number one, um, coming into this offseason is find people.
00:21:03
I don't care if it's free agency.
00:21:04
I don't care if they dropped draft picks in it, somehow find a way to protect this kid.
00:21:11
So Joe is, uh, it's not Joe Burrow.
00:21:14
Jo Jo was a friend of the show.
00:21:18
Um, it is put coming in here on Facebook, and he's saying, Look at Carson Wentz makes a good point.
00:21:23
So look at Carson Wentz.
00:21:24
Wentz went down with the same with It was never the same after his after his leg injury.
00:21:29
I believe you know it's true.
00:21:31
Carson Wentz never looked like the same quarterback after he came back from his A c l tear.
00:21:36
That is true.
00:21:37
Yep, So it's a It's a thing and the Colts did win today.
00:21:41
Big big turnaround in the second half.
00:21:45
E.
00:21:46
I mean, I text.
00:21:48
So warrants this'll morning on our 10 o'clock show.
00:21:53
Lawrence and I were going at it about that game and I said, You know, I said, Don't care how good your defense is.
00:22:00
I said, you're gonna be going up against you know, Aaron Rodgers and he's going on, you know, they're both top 10.
00:22:05
Defense is this is gonna be a tight game and blah blah, blah, blah.
00:22:08
And I messaged him at half time.
00:22:10
I said to top 10.
00:22:11
Defense is over 400 yards of off in the first half and then but the Colts defense, it's like they have been doing all season.
00:22:21
It's like they make that adjustment at halftime toe, whatever it is that that offense is doing.
00:22:26
And it seems like it doesn't matter if it's if it's Nick Foles, Ryan Tannehill or or even Aaron Rodgers.
00:22:33
Apparently, they make adjustments at halftime and things look completely different in the second half.
00:22:40
Yeah, the adjustments got made.
00:22:42
They got it.
00:22:43
Aaron Rodgers face a lot.
00:22:44
I don't think he was getting thrown off by them being in his face.
00:22:46
I just think he had to get rid of the football.
00:22:47
He was in so much he couldn't even get his feet planted.
00:22:50
It had something in his face.
00:22:51
But such a great ending.
00:22:52
What games were you watching after the Patriots came? Conner.
00:22:54
I was watching that game, to be honest with you.
00:22:56
I watched Red Zone, but I saw the end of the Colds Packers game man, and that was what a finished she came right down to it.
00:23:04
They were also getting a million penalty calls on the colds every time they ran the football.
00:23:09
I feel like they kept calling holding that final drive of the game.
00:23:13
Yeah, regular, always like what the heck.
00:23:16
It made me feel like that somewhere in the background.
00:23:21
You know, it was like the Packers were supposed to win this game.
00:23:24
So if you could do whatever you can to go ahead and make sure this happens, right? It was very weird.
00:23:29
Seems like play after play off that play.
00:23:31
It was like as soon as the Colts were going to get to the finish line and look like they win the game, there'd be another penalty.
00:23:36
Yeah, we talk about all the time.
00:23:37
How you know there's there's holding on every play in every play of every down of every football game, but you just don't call it because it holds up the game well.
00:23:47
Apparently the referees forgot that at the end of this game, because they were just like heck with it, man.
00:23:53
There was five holding calls dead smack right in a row, and Green Bay had the like declined two of them because they were like, No, no, no, no.
00:24:02
We don't want him to have 1st and 60 you know? But what if what a finish? I feel bad a little bit for market is valid.
00:24:11
That's canceling with that fumble.
00:24:12
But, hey, well, I mean, he's the one that brought he's the one that got him into the overtime in the first place, so I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hate on on NBS too much because he did do his job in the regular part of the game And that played by Julian Bachmann.
00:24:27
Splitting those two defenders getting arm in there and knocking that ball out was just amazing.
00:24:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Just an absolute phenomenal ending to the game.
00:24:36
It's There was a lot of games that came down to the wire today.
00:24:41
Ah, part of me.
00:24:42
Which I think I picked the Cowboys game to cover for on SportsCastr news because that was the game.
00:24:47
That wasn't a commercial break at the time that I was clicking on the games to watch, right? And I mean, it was an exciting ending as well.
00:24:53
Yeah, Andy Dalton leading them all the way down the field to win the game with a minute and so left and then, uh, Kirk cousins not being able to pick up a first down, and then I just wanted to get the **** off the show. I was done.
00:25:08
It's ever since we started.
00:25:10
SportsCastr News and D. P. D.
00:25:12
P N COMMENTARY I It's hard for me to do just football stuff on my own without a panel or another person to talk. Thio.
00:25:19
Um, well, the Ravens didn't do you any favors today.
00:25:24
Derrick Henry has a walk off handoff, keeps them right in the mix of the the A F C South.
00:25:30
So because I think a Titans lost today would have absolutely just, it would have just propelled the Indian to cruise control because you already had the tie breakers on them.
00:25:40
It was just a cruise control moment After that, Houston's out, Jacksonville's out.
00:25:44
Tennessee's the Onley team.
00:25:46
That could cause you a little bit of issues, but hey, coach, playing next week, right? I mean, the Colts play of next week at home, and we've already got one.
00:25:57
Uh, the Colts.
00:25:58
If they're in the driver's seat, all they gotta do is win against you against Tennessee and they've got this division.
00:26:04
I don't if they if they be Tennessee at home next week.
00:26:07
I don't care if they end up losing to Pittsburgh.
00:26:11
Well, the way they're playing right now, I think they could beat Pittsburgh.
00:26:13
But right now, even if they lost the Pittsburgh, I think they still win.
00:26:18
If they beat Tennessee at home, well, I'll tell you who the big winners were today.
00:26:23
The Buffalo Bills.
00:26:25
They were sitting at home in their own private homes, resting after a few days off, taking care of their own personal business, spending time with their families.
00:26:33
Watching basically will finish off this in a minute.
00:26:36
Guys talking about the Patriots season and what we think the playoff projections look like now after the loss today.
00:26:43
But the Patriots lose, Chua gets benched, they lose to Denver, showed out, or a boy Keith, who told us it couldn't happen.
00:26:51
And, uh, I mean, Lawrence, you and I both said it.
00:26:54
I think you said you were.
00:26:55
You were taking Miami but could see them losing.
00:26:58
I took Denver, Uh, in that game.
00:27:01
I think Joe took Denver as well to his first time two mile high.
00:27:05
I said, He's going to struggle.
00:27:06
The altitude is different.
00:27:07
The breathing is different.
00:27:08
He struggled.
00:27:09
He gets bench for Ryan Fitzpatrick, and the game was 22 13 at the time, so it's not like it was a blow out.
00:27:16
They were right in the thick of trying to tie up the game, and Brian Floors went with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
00:27:20
The Buffalo Bills now hold a demanding lead of that a F C East and on all the tie breakers across the board.
00:27:27
I think you know I can say it.
00:27:29
I think that I'm handing the division of Buffalo.
00:27:32
Uh, it's gonna be there first time winning it.
00:27:35
And I think since the early nineties, all I know is the Indianapolis Colts have won the A F C East more recently than the Buffalo Bills.
00:27:47
No, no.
00:27:48
They have won the A F C East more recently from the Buffalo Bills, because they used to be in the division.
00:27:53
Let's talk about the N F C East.
00:27:55
I mean, really just just lost their lead big time.
00:27:59
I picked the I picked Washington and the Cowboys to win, and they both did I don't even know.
00:28:09
I don't even know what to say about that division anymore.
00:28:13
It's Dallas.
00:28:15
Keep themselves alive with their third win of the year, Washington, on their third win of the year, are alive in that division.
00:28:21
The Giants.
00:28:22
I guess you could call them losers today with all with those two teams winning.
00:28:26
But they're very much in the division.
00:28:29
I mean, Jesus and I looked at the Patriots and go, They could win eight games and be like, second last in the A F C.
00:28:37
And somebody's gonna win four games in the in the NFC East and they're gonna they're gonna They're gonna have a home field playoff game now.
00:28:46
Okay, So I want you.
00:28:47
I'm gonna set you up for this, Lawrence, because we know that it's probably not gonna happen for the Patriots.
00:28:51
Then we'll get into the Patriots game guys and wrap this up.
00:28:55
Coulter playing in the Super Bowl against the four in 12 New York Giants on the Giants win the Super Bowl.
00:29:07
How ****ed would that hurt Mawr than the Saints loss? Because I'll tell you what, The Patriots, the Patriots play Giants teams that shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl on those hurt.
00:29:31
Like I've talked about the Saints loss in the Super Bowl already, and I mean it hurt.
00:29:35
But being that, you know, that was the year that Katrina happened.
00:29:39
I was like, You know what? Good for good for New Orleans State.
00:29:42
They got something to cheer about now, you know, because of that whole.
00:29:46
So I was I was hurt.
00:29:48
But at the same time, I was okay.
00:29:49
You know, good for you guys.
00:29:52
But the Giants, man, I'm telling any other teams in the NFC East if they make it to the Super Bowl and be anyone in the A f C.
00:30:01
I don't care who it is, even if it's Miami.
00:30:05
Uh, they beat them.
00:30:07
They beat Kansas City, Miami, New England.
00:30:10
I mean, it's not over for New England, contrary of New England fans.
00:30:13
I mean, they just they had issues getting in into DeShaun Watson and forcing him to make errors because it's just on Watson.
00:30:22
But there any NFC East team were Super Bowl and yeah, that'll be news for, like the next three years.
00:30:32
Alright, so let's get into that pages since you brought it up So I want to first share with you guys the text exchange that went on between corner and I.
00:30:42
There was a lot today, but I text them when I said, Are we calling this season tonight, or are we trying to find a way for them to go 10 and six? Which, by the way, is now the best record The New England Patriots can have that, Connor said.
00:30:58
I think we try to find the miracle way to go six and no, but admit it's unlikely.
00:31:03
I then ended with this is the most depressing conversation we've ever.
00:31:07
That was very true.
00:31:09
You guys one day I'm just gonna publish thes stupidity.
00:31:14
That corner and I text message each other on a daily basis.
00:31:18
But the Patriots have to go six.
00:31:21
No, they have to run the field now and they got a gauntlet of games in front of them and I want to quickly go through these games and then maybe, you know, you guys can talk about the games.
00:31:32
If you want. Let me go through the game's first.
00:31:34
I'll tell you who they play and then we can talk about whether we see any inkling of a chance of this team going six.
00:31:44
And oh, I know there's games that can win here, but 60 is tough.
00:31:48
So here is their run.
00:31:51
Next week, they host the Arizona Cardinals.
00:31:56
They then follow up by traveling to L.
00:31:59
A to face the Chargers.
00:32:02
They then I'm not sure.
00:32:03
Now. They were supposed to stay in L.
00:32:05
A.
00:32:06
But now I assume they're gonna be flying home filing back to L.
00:32:08
A and facing the Rams.
00:32:16
I believe one game is a Sunday Night football game.
00:32:18
One game is a Monday Night football game.
00:32:22
After leaving Los Angeles, I'm back to back games in Los Angeles.
00:32:25
They go down to dreaded Miami, where, no matter how bad the Miami Dolphins are, the Patriots struggle and it's gonna be hot.
00:32:34
And all the cold blooded New England players who have been practicing in the snow are gonna go down and play to in Miami.
00:32:41
Then they're gonna host the Buffalo Bills.
00:32:45
And then they finished their game off against the Jets so we can say they win the last game of the year against the Jets.
00:32:52
Yeah, show me the path to the playoffs and show me the path to six and oh, I mean, the Chargers.
00:33:00
Maybe probably.
00:33:02
Maybe.
00:33:03
Maybe so.
00:33:05
The Rams? I don't know.
00:33:08
Arizona.
00:33:09
Probably not Buffalo.
00:33:11
Probably not Miami? Maybe? Probably not.
00:33:15
I mean, Lawrence, you said they're not out of it.
00:33:18
You tell me how we get to 10 and six with that schedule off past defense.
00:33:25
Hopefully, hopefully, the past defense is good enough to stop the Cardinals, and somehow you find a way of winning that.
00:33:33
I think you could do it.
00:33:35
I think you could make the playoffs on 97 since there's seven teams going into the way we did it, We did it the other day.
00:33:41
There's too many teams already too far ahead.
00:33:43
The 10 and 10 possible on and actually 10 and 10 and six was pushing it 10 and six.
00:33:51
We still need help from other teams to get into the playoffs 11 and five.
00:33:57
If we could have ran the table, which I knew which was 11 and five, we figured we could guarantee it in the other way to go 10 and six.
00:34:05
We need a couple of teams to fall off in.
00:34:08
A couple of those teams need to fall off one today.
00:34:11
Um, but it seems that you need to up.
00:34:14
Its true Baltimore fell off today, which was a big help.
00:34:19
Uh, but I think I looked at their schedule after this, and it's besides the Steelers, I don't think it's difficult anymore.
00:34:26
Uh, it's a tough look.
00:34:28
It's a tough go because we need the Titans to fall off.
00:34:31
We need, you know, Brown.
00:34:33
We need to.
00:34:34
It was the Browns and the teams were watching was either the Yeah, it was either. The Browns of the Ravens.
00:34:40
We need one of those two teams to fall off the Raiders who are playing Kansas City tonight.
00:34:44
So that's Ah ah, bit of who are winning over Kansas City, right? Of course they are.
00:34:49
Why wouldn't they? So, um, because I was looking because the Patriots hold all the tie breakers for a lot of these games, So it's that's what we're looking at it.
00:34:59
But I think now 10 and six is the number, because the Ravens can probably win four games before this season finishes up in the next six.
00:35:11
When the next four or six, who knows, though, I mean corner.
00:35:15
I told you I wasn't ready to write off this season.
00:35:17
I was shocked.
00:35:18
I couldn't believe like I couldn't believe when I saw you concede the season today because on Twitter, because you're more optimistic than I am.
00:35:31
When I saw you do it, that's what made me go.
00:35:34
Oh, yeah, E man, I don't think they're gonna win all six of these games.
00:35:40
There's too many difficulty.
00:35:41
One starting with.
00:35:42
I think the most difficulty which is gonna be the Cardinals on Sunday, then the Bills is gonna be a very tough game.
00:35:49
Miami is gonna be fighting for a playoff spot.
00:35:51
That's gonna be a tough game.
00:35:53
The Rams is gonna be a very tough game on the bright side, if they are to win all six of these games, I think they're going to the Super Bowl, because if they could go on a six inch tear verse, all six of these teams, they're gonna be on fire.
00:36:05
It be it be the Patriots look that they win five straight and then lose to the Jets on, then missed.
00:36:12
The playoff tiebreaker happened last year with that actually would be the opposite of the Patriots.
00:36:18
Luck that the opposite of what we've seen this season.
00:36:23
Here's the optimism I wanna leave and I want everybody with and I'll get your opinion on it and then we will say goodbye.
00:36:29
But I talked about this on my new podcast that I do on my own called raised useless rant.
00:36:35
And I talked about how I believe this is the word.
00:36:42
This is going to be the worst season in the Bill Belichick era, and I don't mean the worst season up till dates.
00:36:49
I mean, this is going to be the season.
00:36:51
It's going to get better next year.
00:36:53
It was better before this and it's going to get better next year.
00:36:57
I think a lot of Patriot fans, whether we wanted to admit it or not, we all knew going into this season it was going to be a difficult everybody outside a corner corner had the floor had the floor like 12 games or something like that.
00:37:11
A corner had him at 11 and five with Jared Stidham and it went up to 12 games when Cam Newton signed the team are signed on them staying the course and yeah, it was just gonna be the same season his last year.
00:37:23
So I love that XYZ.
00:37:25
Why? I love Connor.
00:37:26
He's the one when I'm starting to feel down That brings me up and starts getting me optimistic about things.
00:37:31
But brings the hey does Hey, does even though we'll go off air and he'll secretly say to me like, Yeah, that was bad, like, but, uh, no, but I I, uh that that's the sort of that's gonna be my positive message for Patriot fans.
00:37:50
First of all, if there was gonna be any season that the Patriots, we're gonna have a rough season, why not be the 2020 season of just disaster right across, Not just in the NFL.
00:38:01
Just in society is the whole, um, with with the whole Covic ordeal.
00:38:07
Um, I think that a lot of people minus us because we get paid for it, forgot about football for a while when that when we're in the thick of the election, you know, there was so many distractions in 2020.
00:38:19
No, but I feel really I feel bad for the Super Bowl champions this year because I think everybody's gonna want to just forget this season and just move on from this year because I know as far as I'm concerned, as soon as midnight strikes on 2021 2020 2020 never existed for me.
00:38:35
Uh uh, Lawrence, I'll finish with corner, so I'll go to you.
00:38:40
Do you agree with my assessment that this is gonna be the worst year on in the Bill Belichick era? No.
00:38:47
Onley for one reason, because I think Bill Belichick will play out all of more than just a few more years.
00:38:53
I think that I think next year they will be better.
00:38:56
I think that will be better the year after that.
00:38:58
I just don't see Bill Belichick retiring anytime soon, and I think that he's going to end up being in a situation probably later on in the future where you might see another season similar to this or worse than this.
00:39:13
But I don't think it will be next year.
00:39:14
I think they'll they'll.
00:39:15
They'll make their adjustments there, improvements, um, the personnel wise and and do something with it.
00:39:22
But I don't see Bill Belichick.
00:39:24
He just seems like one of those guys who will probably be coaching team via the Internet from his deathbed.
00:39:32
Well, we don't want to get into this because we got to this really dark place Last it was last week, way were actually, like talking about Belichick's death.
00:39:42
So we're way got really, really dark into this conversation.
00:39:47
Even Connor went Whoa, this is going places.
00:39:49
This is going places, Meteo what I meant.
00:39:54
Well, that's where brought us.
00:39:56
Lord Connor.
00:39:57
I'll give you last word on it, man.
00:39:59
What? Like I mean, first of all, Okay, I got two questions for you, right? So first of all, do you agree Patriots gonna be better next year.
00:40:05
You know, this is the bad season in the Belichick era. Yes.
00:40:09
Um, but the Patriots also could still go six, you know? And then we would forget all about this bad era when they go to the wild card weekend.
00:40:16
I love the optimism starting to come back, the optimism starting to come until until they lose another game this season is technically still alive.
00:40:26
If they lose another one, then we have no choice.
00:40:29
But you can see because you really brought me down to the even when I said 10 and six and you said I don't think so.
00:40:34
That really that really brought me down because I'm like, No, no, you're the one that I'm the rat.
00:40:39
It's even when I decided I was gonna tell that guy off on Twitter.
00:40:43
You're the one that's supposed to say.
00:40:44
No, no, don't do that.
00:40:45
You were just letting everything go today.
00:40:47
You're like, Yeah, ****ing tell them offense disappointed is just a disappointing day before I go.
00:40:52
Can I ask you a question? Uh um I didn't get to watch the game.
00:40:58
I will in the morning before I do my streams.
00:41:01
But did Did Belichick send many bullets is against Watson.
00:41:07
Way sent a four.
00:41:09
Man.
00:41:10
We sent a four man rush every time.
00:41:13
You can't and it didn't get there.
00:41:15
You know what? The Watson was a problem.
00:41:17
The biggest problem, though, was we ran the ball like 25 times.
00:41:21
Cam Newton threw the ball 40 times on.
00:41:24
The game was never out of reach that they had to stop running the football.
00:41:27
I think Damian Harris was hurt and they couldn't run him the way they wanted to run him.
00:41:32
And then Rex Burkhead went out with the tourney cl and I think it forced them to throw the football down the field That that that is a dagger, in my opinion, to the Patriots, because, I mean, Rex Burkhead is that spark that this team goes to when they need a spark and t to get them back in the game.
00:41:52
They used him last week.
00:41:54
S o I just, man, that's that's terrible.
00:41:58
And, uh, my heart out to all you Patriots fans if you like Birkhead or not, I love Birkhead.
00:42:04
I think he's a great player.
00:42:05
I would love to have him on Indianapolis.
00:42:07
He kind of reminds me of No, he mines.
00:42:09
And in that aspect, And uh, yeah, that's that's that's That's a terrible loss. Connor.
00:42:16
There's there's nothing that I appreciate more than a Colts fan coming on here.
00:42:20
And just like validating everything I've been saying about Rex Burkhead since the off season, I'm a bit you guys know I'm a huge Rex Burkhead fan.
00:42:29
I mean, you know, like I've always loved Burki, my wife, my wife loves called him ***y Rexy.
00:42:36
You know, Cam Cam Too ***y.
00:42:38
Rexy.
00:42:39
That's her thing. No big blow.
00:42:41
And like I said, my my fear is is he's a he's a U f a this season, and I'm just so afraid that this is how we're going to see his season end.
00:42:50
So, Connor, last question goes to you, man, and then we're going to wrap this up because we got to go.
00:42:57
What's the Patriots floor next season? 13 games.
00:43:01
Well, now I'm nervous.
00:43:03
We'll have to see what happens in the offseason.
00:43:05
But if I have to say right now, I'll say 11 and five e love you so much for five.
00:43:14
Lawrence, before you take off, why don't you tell the people where they confined you? And I guess I want to thank you for coming this impromptu visit.
00:43:22
We always appreciate you coming on to DPM commentary.
00:43:26
Hey, thanks, man.
00:43:27
I have no problem coming on here, especially since I left you hanging toe watch my colts game.
00:43:32
Uh, you couldn't have broke me away with a pair of pliers.
00:43:35
I mean, there's just no way.
00:43:36
You know what, dude, I wasn't even gonna bother even going on slack to tell you that I was going on.
00:43:41
I just figured you weren't coming anyway, so it's okay.
00:43:44
No.
00:43:45
Yeah, it was It was just too tight of a game.
00:43:46
Game of the week.
00:43:47
Hey, you could follow me here on SportsCastr at Laurence Owen NFL.
00:43:52
Uh, check out my network, Lawrence.
00:43:55
I want all capital letters.
00:43:56
Very simple.
00:43:57
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00:44:00
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00:44:02
Lawrence. How one, man.
00:44:04
All right, Lawrence, thank you so much for coming on the show here.
00:44:08
Always.
00:44:09
Always appreciated.
00:44:10
Make sure you check him out.
00:44:11
He'll be on You're gonna be, is gonna be on all day tomorrow, starting at, like, 10 a.m. And onward.
00:44:15
And then Lawrence will be back with us at 7 p.
00:44:18
m.
00:44:19
Eastern time tomorrow night to do the Monday night football game, and he probably won't be back on deep.
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No, he won't be on DPM commentary tomorrow because we got the East Coast West Coast football podcast on it, and it's gonna get really crowded if Lawrence shows up because there's already three of them.
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Lawrence always appreciated, man.
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Love you popping by.
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Thank you.
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Have a good take care man.
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I love when Lawrence comes by.
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Me too.
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Man, this is a good dude on.
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I like that.
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It's no longer scheduled, and it's just like all impromptu, right? like it just It just happens.
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Um, e I got one more question here for you from the audience.
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Then we got to go because I gotta Come on, Ray.
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Will your Arizona game be a statement game? Mr.
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Optimistic? E mean, if the Patriots win, it certainly will be.
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If they could come out and beat Arizona, the optimism will go through the roof.
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Which I think is what happened last week versus the Ravens.
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After they beat the Ravens were flying high.
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I thought, Houston, no problem.
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You know, we'll go from there.
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I thought they were gonna win five out of the next six.
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I really did.
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Yeah, so did I.
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I mean, I was the one who said maybe they could go 11 and they could win out.
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Go 11 and five.
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Well, here we are.
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Season season is not mathematically over, but the improbability continues to grow and grow and grow again.
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Here, we want to thank Lawrence for coming on.
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Thank you for tuning in here to SportsCastr live.
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This is no thank you for tuning a d.
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Commentary on SportsCastr live DPM commentary is a SportsCastr featured podcast, and you can download the podcast every day when we're up and ready to go and, uh, catch some replays on YouTube and all that kind of thing.
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But you can Onley catch us live on SportsCastr and we sneak in Facebook for For Joe.
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What's up, Joe? Alright, Conner.
00:46:08
Anything you want to say to the people before we say goodbye? Six and O. C.
00:46:12
A wildcard. Weekends go.
00:46:14
Patriots Patriots! Mhm.
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DPN Commentary: Patriots Season Over??

The New England Patriots are expecting two of their key players to return on the field as running back Damien Harris and cornerback Stephon Gilmore are looking to suit up in Week 11 against the Houston Texans, as per NFL Network‘s Ian Rapoport. #Patriots RB Damien Harris (ankle/chest) is expected to play today, source. said, […]

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Connor.
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How you feeling, buddy? Disappointed? That's the main feeling right now the wind has been taken out of my sails.
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Uh, we did.
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We set the people up for failure this week.
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Connor did we set people up for disappointment? Like because you and I We we boosted.
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We boasted we celebrated.
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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They're gonna They're gonna beat the Texans.
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I mean, this wasn't even We were looking down the road, right? Yep.
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This was.
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This was supposed to be an easy check.
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The box of the wind.
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What happened to Shawn Watson? But not stop the guy.
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And I'm happy you said that because sometimes Connor, sometimes the other team just plays better.
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That's pretty much what happens.
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Would you? Would you say the Patriots played bad today? I don't I don't know It did.
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That's the frustrating thing.
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Is it? They didn't look.
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They didn't play poorly.
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They've looked much worse many times than the season.
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I honestly thought they played a pretty decent game.
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Um, defense was all right to Shawn Watson through all over him, but some of those passes were just absolutely perfect.
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Yeah, there was plays throughout that game where the passing had to be pinpoint.
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Perfect.
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Yeah, and he was pinpoint. Perfect.
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Exactly.
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There were a few plays where it wasn't even that.
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You know, the, um I'm trying to say it wasn't even that the coverage was that poor was just that he fit it right into a perfectly tight window.
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Now, you can't say that the game was perfect for the Patriots and that Shawn Watson beat them.
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I mean, definitely not the pass rush was not existing.
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Now I want to talk a little bit about that pass rush.
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Was that a case of the Patriots having a bad pass rusher? Is that a little bit of D Shawn Watson? Because to me, this is what it looked like.
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He stood in the pocket, forced everybody to come in and trying to collapse that pocket.
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And as they committed themselves in, he would take himself out and moved from the pocket.
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There was nobody left on him.
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E think that Chase win a ***** got to him one time and got a hand on him and he was able to get away.
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Is that more about the Patriots pass rush? Not being effective? Or was that Maurer of the Patriots coaching staff? A unit we don't call out, ever.
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Not adapting to what the Shawn Watson was doing and changing how they rushed him honestly, Yeah, probably was the second of the two.
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It probably was the coaching staff not making the correct adjustments because it was clear that even like you said when they did kind of get some pressure on him, he avoided it.
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No problem.
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It's like that, Guys, I don't know how he does.
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It's like he's covered in butter or something.
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He just slips out of any tackle they might have. Anyways.
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A lot of people were putting this game on Cam Newton.
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It confused me.
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Can you look at this game and say, this is I mean, I think out of the U.
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S.
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Okay, so you and I have been the most optimistic Patriot fans throughout this season.
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I don't think there was any more to people who defended this team more than you and I.
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But I think when it comes to Cam Newton as an individual, I think I was probably the one who was the most optimistic and the biggest defender, Cam Newton.
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You weren't ready to commit to him long term.
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You were critical of him at times.
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Even when I was defending him.
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In his worst moments, could you look it? So I want to take myself out of the equation because I know him a bit of ah, you know, a Cam Newton Fanboy.
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Can you look at this game today and say this was Cam Newton's fault? No, I mean, he threw for what, 360 yards.
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They moved the ball down the field consistently, and I honestly expected them to run the ball all over them.
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They barely ran the ball they through the entire time, and part of it was because they were losing for most of the game.
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They were trailing and they had to keep up with the Shawn Watson, who after the Patriots first drive, which is a phenomenal drive, by the way, they started out great.
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They I don't think they had the lead again the rest of the game.
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They were playing from behind the entire time and he was just trying to keep up.
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They were playing from behind, but this that's what irritated me because they were never like behind.
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They went behind by two scores, but they already started throwing the football way before.
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They were still 77 when they started throwing the football, and that's what got irritating to me because they trailed the Jets for most of the game and kept running the football.
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Uh, they had lots of time to continue playing their game.
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What I wanna know is is was Damian Harris injured? That was my piece and did they have to? Because he's, I would hope I would hope not because they made Sony Michelle a healthy scratch.
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So if they knew that he was injured, I don't know how much sense that would have made.
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But what Sony Michelle actually a healthy scratch? Sony.
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Michelle just came off of the I. R.
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Right.
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Um, I read an article this morning that said Stefan Gilmore and Damian Harris are believed to be playing, which means Damian Harris was in question of playing this game.
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I don't think that Sony Michelle I know everybody looked I know that I even, uh, Mike Reiss came out after Sony.
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Michelle's a healthy scratch and said Damian Harris, RB one I think that Sony Michelle is still dealing with some lingering effects of his injury, and that's why he was a healthy scratch.
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Because if Harris was beat up and there was question, who's gonna play the game, why would you not have Sony Michelle in there to help Kind of exactly take some of that pressure off him, and I mean, you and I talked all week about we can see the tandem between Sony Michelle and Damian Harris.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So it's either one of two things.
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Damian Harris was banged up and he couldn't run the football effectively.
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And then, after Rex Burkhead went out, prayers to Rexburg had.
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Absolutely, man, that Patriots are fearing it's an A C l, which means they probably be done for the year.
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That could, because that could have been his last game is a patriot.
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I hope not.
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But it could have been.
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Yeah, it definitely could have done.
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And but back to it a little bit if Damian Harris got banged up.
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I wonder if something happened on that first drive because he went five Russians for 25 yards and a touchdown on the first drive of the game.
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I mean, I tweeted out.
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Josh McDaniels had a brilliant game plan to start that game, and then everything just got weird.
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After that, they it did.
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I don't know what the factoring was behind it, but that first drive there was so well balanced they ran the ball great.
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They threw, they threw it when they needed to and then after that they just they abandoned the run basically, and I think what was frustrating for me on my side was all week we talked about the Patriots offensive line and their run game going up against the weakest run defense in the NFL.
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I mean, Connor, you couldn't try to convince me that Cam Newton was gonna come out throwing the football for 360 yards.
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No matter how much you tried against me, I'd say there's no way that's the Patriots game plan. Nope.
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I thought it was gonna be drastically less.
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I thought he was gonna go for, like, 200 yards, and it was gonna be very heavy dose of Damian Harris.
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And I think Damian Harris had, what, 11 carries? I'll pull up the stats.
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That's what I thought it was.
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The Patriots have 86 yards total in rushing against the worst rush defense in the NFL.
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Damian Harris had 11 carries for 43 yards, averaging 3.
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9 yards per carry.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's It's I didn't get it, and to me it has to be injury.
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That's the only thing I can think about.
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Yeah, that.
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I mean, that's the only thing that would make sense.
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I don't know why else they were just abandoned the game plan that they looked like they had on the first drive.
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I mean, the Patriots still ran the ball 26 times.
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Yeah.
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James White had five carries.
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Rex Burkhead had four carries.
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Newton had three carries.
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Dimier Bird had to carry on that sort of that end around, so they still ran the ball 26 times.
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But through it 40 times.
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Yeah, that I was not expecting anything like that.
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40 pass attempts.
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Cam Newton goes 26 for 43 65 1 touchdown, no interceptions.
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He sacked twice.
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He ends up with a quarterback rating of 102.6.
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So that was my confusion of why there's on.
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And I think that that's just people blaming Cam Newton.
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Just the blame Cam Newton. 100%.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I don't know why this game would be blamed on hand.
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It's not like it was the Denver game of the 40 Niners game, although both of those I think we're still team losses, but this game just can't.
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You can't put this on camp doing.
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If anything, this is more on the defense, and they even made a couple stops when they needed to.
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Um, Shawn Watson, just bullied them on a couple of drives.
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Were you surprised to see Demir Bird is the featured back today and not Jacoby Meyers? Yes, yes, that was huge.
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That was a very pleasant surprise, though. He looks phenomenal.
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I was very surprised at how well he played.
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Six catches for 1 32 had a touchdown on that long bomb.
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So we finally saw Cam Newton throw the deep ball and we and I mean, that was to me that was not just such a That was a really, really good to great throw in an outstanding catch.
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But yeah, I agree completely.
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It's definitely a good throw.
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And then he just a great play on that.
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Jacoby Meyers only goes three for 38.
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Surprised, I was surprised, But now that I think about it, they must have really heavily game plan for Jacoby Meyers.
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And they needed burnt to step up because it's like they took Myers away from the gecko.
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And he did.
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Donte Moncrief makes his first reception today, one for 15.
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Yep, you did.
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That was good to see whatever happened to Isaiah Zuber? That's a good question, because I didn't see that catched by Moncrief at first, and then they were saying it was somebody that just came up from the practice for and I thought it must have been Zuber again.
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But then it was obviously Moncrief.
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Yeah, it was.
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Margaret knows Super wasn't in Nikkila, Harry.
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Five for 41.
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I know We saw him out there.
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He actually had a couple good catches after having a couple of penalties.
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Say, though.
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But I think he gave up 25 yards in penalties first.
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He did? Yeah.
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I mean, he kind of needed to get those 41 yards just to be in the positives.
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His first two contributions this game was a pass interference call in a holding call that negated big place, you know, took place that negated big calls to start the game.
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Let's talk a little bit about Nikkila, Harry, because I was a rampant defender of Nikkila Harry the same way I've been a rampant defender of Sony.
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Michelle and I will I will die on the Sony Michelle Hill.
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Just so everybody knows Sony Michelle is one of the major factors of why the Patriots won the Super Bowl in 2018, So I will die on the Sony Michelle Hill for a long as I can.
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I can't defend McKeel Harry anymore. Conner.
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I can't.
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I can't do it.
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Can you find a reason to defend Nikkila, Harry? Not really.
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I mean, he looked already made a couple catches, couple contributions today.
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What was it five catches for 41 yards? I mean, let's take away the penalties that we're an enormous factor.
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Um, that's still just a very mediocre day.
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And that would be one of his best games to date would be five catches for 41 yards.
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He hasn't lived up anywhere close to what we have expected out of him the past two years.
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The only thing positive I can think is that it's only a year and a half it, and maybe next year he'll finally break out.
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But other than that, he hasn't shown us anything.
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I think what's the most shocking about him is that Cam Newton was so open toe working with him, he was mentoring him.
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He was trying to get in to kill Harry into a stage of life where he was gonna be his go to number.
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And you saw Newton just forcing the football to Cam Newton, and it just kind of fell off the rails, and I want to bring up something interesting that I thought about.
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So when the Patriots were driving at the end of the game, when they're down by seven, the announcer said.
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Now, Cam Newton, we need to see who does he trust? Who is he going to go to the first couple weeks of the season? It was Nikkila Harry.
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Then it was, you know, Then it was Jacoby Meyers.
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Now, today it Zamir Bird, who does he go to? I mean, funnily enough, he went to Ryan is Oh, but on I didn't go through with those catches because they both came at the end of the game.
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But I think he had 56 yards on two catches.
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One.
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That depo.
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Yeah, that didn't make it to the end zone, right? Who does Cam Newton trust in that situation? And you know what? I think I do know who we trust, I would say to Kobe Myers may be to me, a bird.
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No, I think the guy that he trusted the most got carted off out of the blue medical tent with the tourney cl.
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That's actually a good point.
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I think that Rexburg had would have been a major factor in that final drive if he would have been on the field and healthy, right? You e mean, you could see it in a lot of situations.
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Even prior to the injury, he was looking at Birkhead's direction, and we see that game in and game out.
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I've said it all season that Birkhead has been like the spark plug for the Patriots team, and I'm not just saying that because I have his jersey on my wall.
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It's That's who Rex Burkhead was this season.
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This season finally vindicated everything that I've said about Rex Burkhead and what he's able to accomplish for the Patriots, and to me, that's who he trusts the most.
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Now somebody described Cam Newton to me as a game manager.
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He's not who he used to be.
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He's now a game manager.
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Would you consider him a gay manager considering who he's had to work with this year? He's had to work with the mere bird Jacoby Meyers, and I'm not trying to negate those guys.
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But those were his two primary.
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A bust of Nikkila Harry and a broken Julian Edelman.
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That's been his weapon for this season.
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No riel passing game with the tight ends.
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Ryan is oh, the only one who can go out and catch a pass.
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Asea C and Dalton, keen non existent in the past game.
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Yeah, he couldn't be anything more than a game manager, could he? Right at this point.
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Now, when I think gay manager, I think of Alex Smith when he used to play for the 40 Niners, when they had Frank Gore and they just run the ball like 25 30 times a game, employed defense and went like 17 to 13.
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So I mean, with the weapons, the Patriots have almost forced to try and win that way.
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But the defense isn't that strong.
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So now he's getting into like like what happened today.
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He's gotta throw to keep up, but I don't see him as a gay manager now.
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So do you think if Belichick does go out in the offseason, get proper weapons for him? Some sort of tight end who can catch a football outside of Ryan is multiple weapons that they need.
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Now I have a new thing about Ryan is or two.
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If we could talk about him, I believe Ryan ISO could be a big contributor to this Patriots team down the line.
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Okay? They just need to move him out of that number.
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One tight end spot, right? Right there, asking him to play a position that he's not.
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You know, it's not even his fault.
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He's just really not a tight end one.
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That doesn't mean he can't be a tight end to or like, a tight end.
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Three.
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But he's playing in the primary position, you know.
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They're asking them to be more than he is.
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I'd rather him be like the halfback.
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You know, the the HB tight, and I really do.
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I think that he could be a little bit of oven.
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Aaron Hernandez, type of tight end.
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He has the speed.
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He has the strength.
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He has the size.
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The problem is, is when he's got to rub somebody to get off on a route and all this other kind of different stuff, I think that they could move him as the as the tight end to or the tight end three.
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They could involve him or in this game I actually, like Ryan is Oh, I just don't think that they have him in the right position right now, right? Yeah, it's just he doesn't have the talent to do what they want him to do or what we want him to do his fans right now, and we want him to be like a hunter Henry, and to go out there and catch five passes for 80 yards every week.
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He he's just not able to do that right now, currently, and that's what they're asking of him, or that's what we released asking of him.
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So it'll be interesting to see if they could bring somebody in.
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And, you know, he could go back to, like, the number to roll and, well, we'll see what happens.
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All right, um, so our boy Lawrence is on the stream right now.
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What's up? What's up? And he's, uh, he said he's available, so I am going to send him the link.
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Or so I am sending you the link so you can come join us if you'd like Lawrence and we can chat a little bit about this Patriots game.
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But I think I'm beyond the game now.
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Yeah, I thought that Shawn Watson played phenomenal.
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Yeah, he did.
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I don't I don't know how anyone could dispute that.
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Some of those throws were just pinpoint.
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Accurate.
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I avoided.
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He avoided the sax man, he could run the football.
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And that touchdown, he just lowered his shoulder and Howard somebody into the end zone.
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And I think piano was, but yeah.
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No, I'm looking.
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When he ran over Devin Devin McCourty, that's what was that.
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He ran hay just plowed through the 40.
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He made, uh, lots of guys.
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Missan tackles today.
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Yeah.
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Now I'm I want to get more into Oh, yeah.
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Sorry.
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And I know a lot of people.
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That's what I want to just discuss, hit really quickly.
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I know a lot of people are upset with the secondary right now.
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Our boy make chicken blog's is best at the secondary.
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And look, they had moments where the secondary wasn't great, right? But with that lack of pass rush, the Shawn Watson had time to set up a tea party right, and and throw the football At some point when you guys got when you got guys like Fuller and cooks on the team with that kind of speed.
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Even after Randall Cobb went out, they're going to get open.
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And I think that's what we saw today.
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So we're gonna bring in our boy Lawrence.
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Special appearance. Unscheduled.
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Lawrence, how you doing? Thank you for joining the show.
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Thanks for having me.
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I do.
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I'm so sorry that I left you hanging, man.
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Don't worries, man.
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No worries. I got through it.
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I called the end of the Minnesota Dallas game, so it was a little bit interesting.
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One. It was.
00:19:22
So I did a little bit of play by play, went through the scores, talked about the game, talked about guys we talked about.
00:19:26
Maybe I know this is on patriots related.
00:19:28
Then we'll get we'll roll it back to the Patriots.
00:19:31
But Joe Burrow done for the year with an a c l tear.
00:19:35
So two major a c l tears.
00:19:37
Rex Burkhead Looks like he's out for the season with an A, C l and Joe.
00:19:41
Burrow it with an A c l.
00:19:43
I mean, a tough start to a young career, Lawrence.
00:19:46
I'll go to you first, man.
00:19:48
What could this due to a young quarterback tearing in a C.
00:19:51
L.
00:19:52
So early into their career.
00:19:54
Oh, that's that's not good.
00:19:56
I I actually seen that when I was watching my game, and I was like, Oh, no, that's That's not good, because A C L it's not terrible for a quarterback, at least, you know? I mean, a mobile quarterback, maybe a little bit, but a c l he should be able to get back you it z early enough in the season that he'll probably be able to start next year.
00:20:20
But at the same time, Uh, that's gonna be in the back of his mind every time there's pressure on him, right for the that.
00:20:27
Next his sop****re season.
00:20:29
Especially the first 4 to 6 weeks he Every time he steps back in that pocket, he's gonna be worried about getting hit low every time.
00:20:37
And that's gonna force him to throw that football even faster than what he's doing now is this Is this not just indicative to my God, get to kid an offensive line? Yeah.
00:20:49
I mean, we've been saying that since week one, Uh, so, yeah, I mean, that's definitely that I should be there.
00:20:57
Priority number one, um, coming into this offseason is find people.
00:21:03
I don't care if it's free agency.
00:21:04
I don't care if they dropped draft picks in it, somehow find a way to protect this kid.
00:21:11
So Joe is, uh, it's not Joe Burrow.
00:21:14
Jo Jo was a friend of the show.
00:21:18
Um, it is put coming in here on Facebook, and he's saying, Look at Carson Wentz makes a good point.
00:21:23
So look at Carson Wentz.
00:21:24
Wentz went down with the same with It was never the same after his after his leg injury.
00:21:29
I believe you know it's true.
00:21:31
Carson Wentz never looked like the same quarterback after he came back from his A c l tear.
00:21:36
That is true.
00:21:37
Yep, So it's a It's a thing and the Colts did win today.
00:21:41
Big big turnaround in the second half.
00:21:45
E.
00:21:46
I mean, I text.
00:21:48
So warrants this'll morning on our 10 o'clock show.
00:21:53
Lawrence and I were going at it about that game and I said, You know, I said, Don't care how good your defense is.
00:22:00
I said, you're gonna be going up against you know, Aaron Rodgers and he's going on, you know, they're both top 10.
00:22:05
Defense is this is gonna be a tight game and blah blah, blah, blah.
00:22:08
And I messaged him at half time.
00:22:10
I said to top 10.
00:22:11
Defense is over 400 yards of off in the first half and then but the Colts defense, it's like they have been doing all season.
00:22:21
It's like they make that adjustment at halftime toe, whatever it is that that offense is doing.
00:22:26
And it seems like it doesn't matter if it's if it's Nick Foles, Ryan Tannehill or or even Aaron Rodgers.
00:22:33
Apparently, they make adjustments at halftime and things look completely different in the second half.
00:22:40
Yeah, the adjustments got made.
00:22:42
They got it.
00:22:43
Aaron Rodgers face a lot.
00:22:44
I don't think he was getting thrown off by them being in his face.
00:22:46
I just think he had to get rid of the football.
00:22:47
He was in so much he couldn't even get his feet planted.
00:22:50
It had something in his face.
00:22:51
But such a great ending.
00:22:52
What games were you watching after the Patriots came? Conner.
00:22:54
I was watching that game, to be honest with you.
00:22:56
I watched Red Zone, but I saw the end of the Colds Packers game man, and that was what a finished she came right down to it.
00:23:04
They were also getting a million penalty calls on the colds every time they ran the football.
00:23:09
I feel like they kept calling holding that final drive of the game.
00:23:13
Yeah, regular, always like what the heck.
00:23:16
It made me feel like that somewhere in the background.
00:23:21
You know, it was like the Packers were supposed to win this game.
00:23:24
So if you could do whatever you can to go ahead and make sure this happens, right? It was very weird.
00:23:29
Seems like play after play off that play.
00:23:31
It was like as soon as the Colts were going to get to the finish line and look like they win the game, there'd be another penalty.
00:23:36
Yeah, we talk about all the time.
00:23:37
How you know there's there's holding on every play in every play of every down of every football game, but you just don't call it because it holds up the game well.
00:23:47
Apparently the referees forgot that at the end of this game, because they were just like heck with it, man.
00:23:53
There was five holding calls dead smack right in a row, and Green Bay had the like declined two of them because they were like, No, no, no, no.
00:24:02
We don't want him to have 1st and 60 you know? But what if what a finish? I feel bad a little bit for market is valid.
00:24:11
That's canceling with that fumble.
00:24:12
But, hey, well, I mean, he's the one that brought he's the one that got him into the overtime in the first place, so I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna hate on on NBS too much because he did do his job in the regular part of the game And that played by Julian Bachmann.
00:24:27
Splitting those two defenders getting arm in there and knocking that ball out was just amazing.
00:24:31
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Just an absolute phenomenal ending to the game.
00:24:36
It's There was a lot of games that came down to the wire today.
00:24:41
Ah, part of me.
00:24:42
Which I think I picked the Cowboys game to cover for on SportsCastr news because that was the game.
00:24:47
That wasn't a commercial break at the time that I was clicking on the games to watch, right? And I mean, it was an exciting ending as well.
00:24:53
Yeah, Andy Dalton leading them all the way down the field to win the game with a minute and so left and then, uh, Kirk cousins not being able to pick up a first down, and then I just wanted to get the **** off the show. I was done.
00:25:08
It's ever since we started.
00:25:10
SportsCastr News and D. P. D.
00:25:12
P N COMMENTARY I It's hard for me to do just football stuff on my own without a panel or another person to talk. Thio.
00:25:19
Um, well, the Ravens didn't do you any favors today.
00:25:24
Derrick Henry has a walk off handoff, keeps them right in the mix of the the A F C South.
00:25:30
So because I think a Titans lost today would have absolutely just, it would have just propelled the Indian to cruise control because you already had the tie breakers on them.
00:25:40
It was just a cruise control moment After that, Houston's out, Jacksonville's out.
00:25:44
Tennessee's the Onley team.
00:25:46
That could cause you a little bit of issues, but hey, coach, playing next week, right? I mean, the Colts play of next week at home, and we've already got one.
00:25:57
Uh, the Colts.
00:25:58
If they're in the driver's seat, all they gotta do is win against you against Tennessee and they've got this division.
00:26:04
I don't if they if they be Tennessee at home next week.
00:26:07
I don't care if they end up losing to Pittsburgh.
00:26:11
Well, the way they're playing right now, I think they could beat Pittsburgh.
00:26:13
But right now, even if they lost the Pittsburgh, I think they still win.
00:26:18
If they beat Tennessee at home, well, I'll tell you who the big winners were today.
00:26:23
The Buffalo Bills.
00:26:25
They were sitting at home in their own private homes, resting after a few days off, taking care of their own personal business, spending time with their families.
00:26:33
Watching basically will finish off this in a minute.
00:26:36
Guys talking about the Patriots season and what we think the playoff projections look like now after the loss today.
00:26:43
But the Patriots lose, Chua gets benched, they lose to Denver, showed out, or a boy Keith, who told us it couldn't happen.
00:26:51
And, uh, I mean, Lawrence, you and I both said it.
00:26:54
I think you said you were.
00:26:55
You were taking Miami but could see them losing.
00:26:58
I took Denver, Uh, in that game.
00:27:01
I think Joe took Denver as well to his first time two mile high.
00:27:05
I said, He's going to struggle.
00:27:06
The altitude is different.
00:27:07
The breathing is different.
00:27:08
He struggled.
00:27:09
He gets bench for Ryan Fitzpatrick, and the game was 22 13 at the time, so it's not like it was a blow out.
00:27:16
They were right in the thick of trying to tie up the game, and Brian Floors went with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
00:27:20
The Buffalo Bills now hold a demanding lead of that a F C East and on all the tie breakers across the board.
00:27:27
I think you know I can say it.
00:27:29
I think that I'm handing the division of Buffalo.
00:27:32
Uh, it's gonna be there first time winning it.
00:27:35
And I think since the early nineties, all I know is the Indianapolis Colts have won the A F C East more recently than the Buffalo Bills.
00:27:47
No, no.
00:27:48
They have won the A F C East more recently from the Buffalo Bills, because they used to be in the division.
00:27:53
Let's talk about the N F C East.
00:27:55
I mean, really just just lost their lead big time.
00:27:59
I picked the I picked Washington and the Cowboys to win, and they both did I don't even know.
00:28:09
I don't even know what to say about that division anymore.
00:28:13
It's Dallas.
00:28:15
Keep themselves alive with their third win of the year, Washington, on their third win of the year, are alive in that division.
00:28:21
The Giants.
00:28:22
I guess you could call them losers today with all with those two teams winning.
00:28:26
But they're very much in the division.
00:28:29
I mean, Jesus and I looked at the Patriots and go, They could win eight games and be like, second last in the A F C.
00:28:37
And somebody's gonna win four games in the in the NFC East and they're gonna they're gonna They're gonna have a home field playoff game now.
00:28:46
Okay, So I want you.
00:28:47
I'm gonna set you up for this, Lawrence, because we know that it's probably not gonna happen for the Patriots.
00:28:51
Then we'll get into the Patriots game guys and wrap this up.
00:28:55
Coulter playing in the Super Bowl against the four in 12 New York Giants on the Giants win the Super Bowl.
00:29:07
How ****ed would that hurt Mawr than the Saints loss? Because I'll tell you what, The Patriots, the Patriots play Giants teams that shouldn't have been in the Super Bowl on those hurt.
00:29:31
Like I've talked about the Saints loss in the Super Bowl already, and I mean it hurt.
00:29:35
But being that, you know, that was the year that Katrina happened.
00:29:39
I was like, You know what? Good for good for New Orleans State.
00:29:42
They got something to cheer about now, you know, because of that whole.
00:29:46
So I was I was hurt.
00:29:48
But at the same time, I was okay.
00:29:49
You know, good for you guys.
00:29:52
But the Giants, man, I'm telling any other teams in the NFC East if they make it to the Super Bowl and be anyone in the A f C.
00:30:01
I don't care who it is, even if it's Miami.
00:30:05
Uh, they beat them.
00:30:07
They beat Kansas City, Miami, New England.
00:30:10
I mean, it's not over for New England, contrary of New England fans.
00:30:13
I mean, they just they had issues getting in into DeShaun Watson and forcing him to make errors because it's just on Watson.
00:30:22
But there any NFC East team were Super Bowl and yeah, that'll be news for, like the next three years.
00:30:32
Alright, so let's get into that pages since you brought it up So I want to first share with you guys the text exchange that went on between corner and I.
00:30:42
There was a lot today, but I text them when I said, Are we calling this season tonight, or are we trying to find a way for them to go 10 and six? Which, by the way, is now the best record The New England Patriots can have that, Connor said.
00:30:58
I think we try to find the miracle way to go six and no, but admit it's unlikely.
00:31:03
I then ended with this is the most depressing conversation we've ever.
00:31:07
That was very true.
00:31:09
You guys one day I'm just gonna publish thes stupidity.
00:31:14
That corner and I text message each other on a daily basis.
00:31:18
But the Patriots have to go six.
00:31:21
No, they have to run the field now and they got a gauntlet of games in front of them and I want to quickly go through these games and then maybe, you know, you guys can talk about the games.
00:31:32
If you want. Let me go through the game's first.
00:31:34
I'll tell you who they play and then we can talk about whether we see any inkling of a chance of this team going six.
00:31:44
And oh, I know there's games that can win here, but 60 is tough.
00:31:48
So here is their run.
00:31:51
Next week, they host the Arizona Cardinals.
00:31:56
They then follow up by traveling to L.
00:31:59
A to face the Chargers.
00:32:02
They then I'm not sure.
00:32:03
Now. They were supposed to stay in L.
00:32:05
A.
00:32:06
But now I assume they're gonna be flying home filing back to L.
00:32:08
A and facing the Rams.
00:32:16
I believe one game is a Sunday Night football game.
00:32:18
One game is a Monday Night football game.
00:32:22
After leaving Los Angeles, I'm back to back games in Los Angeles.
00:32:25
They go down to dreaded Miami, where, no matter how bad the Miami Dolphins are, the Patriots struggle and it's gonna be hot.
00:32:34
And all the cold blooded New England players who have been practicing in the snow are gonna go down and play to in Miami.
00:32:41
Then they're gonna host the Buffalo Bills.
00:32:45
And then they finished their game off against the Jets so we can say they win the last game of the year against the Jets.
00:32:52
Yeah, show me the path to the playoffs and show me the path to six and oh, I mean, the Chargers.
00:33:00
Maybe probably.
00:33:02
Maybe.
00:33:03
Maybe so.
00:33:05
The Rams? I don't know.
00:33:08
Arizona.
00:33:09
Probably not Buffalo.
00:33:11
Probably not Miami? Maybe? Probably not.
00:33:15
I mean, Lawrence, you said they're not out of it.
00:33:18
You tell me how we get to 10 and six with that schedule off past defense.
00:33:25
Hopefully, hopefully, the past defense is good enough to stop the Cardinals, and somehow you find a way of winning that.
00:33:33
I think you could do it.
00:33:35
I think you could make the playoffs on 97 since there's seven teams going into the way we did it, We did it the other day.
00:33:41
There's too many teams already too far ahead.
00:33:43
The 10 and 10 possible on and actually 10 and 10 and six was pushing it 10 and six.
00:33:51
We still need help from other teams to get into the playoffs 11 and five.
00:33:57
If we could have ran the table, which I knew which was 11 and five, we figured we could guarantee it in the other way to go 10 and six.
00:34:05
We need a couple of teams to fall off in.
00:34:08
A couple of those teams need to fall off one today.
00:34:11
Um, but it seems that you need to up.
00:34:14
Its true Baltimore fell off today, which was a big help.
00:34:19
Uh, but I think I looked at their schedule after this, and it's besides the Steelers, I don't think it's difficult anymore.
00:34:26
Uh, it's a tough look.
00:34:28
It's a tough go because we need the Titans to fall off.
00:34:31
We need, you know, Brown.
00:34:33
We need to.
00:34:34
It was the Browns and the teams were watching was either the Yeah, it was either. The Browns of the Ravens.
00:34:40
We need one of those two teams to fall off the Raiders who are playing Kansas City tonight.
00:34:44
So that's Ah ah, bit of who are winning over Kansas City, right? Of course they are.
00:34:49
Why wouldn't they? So, um, because I was looking because the Patriots hold all the tie breakers for a lot of these games, So it's that's what we're looking at it.
00:34:59
But I think now 10 and six is the number, because the Ravens can probably win four games before this season finishes up in the next six.
00:35:11
When the next four or six, who knows, though, I mean corner.
00:35:15
I told you I wasn't ready to write off this season.
00:35:17
I was shocked.
00:35:18
I couldn't believe like I couldn't believe when I saw you concede the season today because on Twitter, because you're more optimistic than I am.
00:35:31
When I saw you do it, that's what made me go.
00:35:34
Oh, yeah, E man, I don't think they're gonna win all six of these games.
00:35:40
There's too many difficulty.
00:35:41
One starting with.
00:35:42
I think the most difficulty which is gonna be the Cardinals on Sunday, then the Bills is gonna be a very tough game.
00:35:49
Miami is gonna be fighting for a playoff spot.
00:35:51
That's gonna be a tough game.
00:35:53
The Rams is gonna be a very tough game on the bright side, if they are to win all six of these games, I think they're going to the Super Bowl, because if they could go on a six inch tear verse, all six of these teams, they're gonna be on fire.
00:36:05
It be it be the Patriots look that they win five straight and then lose to the Jets on, then missed.
00:36:12
The playoff tiebreaker happened last year with that actually would be the opposite of the Patriots.
00:36:18
Luck that the opposite of what we've seen this season.
00:36:23
Here's the optimism I wanna leave and I want everybody with and I'll get your opinion on it and then we will say goodbye.
00:36:29
But I talked about this on my new podcast that I do on my own called raised useless rant.
00:36:35
And I talked about how I believe this is the word.
00:36:42
This is going to be the worst season in the Bill Belichick era, and I don't mean the worst season up till dates.
00:36:49
I mean, this is going to be the season.
00:36:51
It's going to get better next year.
00:36:53
It was better before this and it's going to get better next year.
00:36:57
I think a lot of Patriot fans, whether we wanted to admit it or not, we all knew going into this season it was going to be a difficult everybody outside a corner corner had the floor had the floor like 12 games or something like that.
00:37:11
A corner had him at 11 and five with Jared Stidham and it went up to 12 games when Cam Newton signed the team are signed on them staying the course and yeah, it was just gonna be the same season his last year.
00:37:23
So I love that XYZ.
00:37:25
Why? I love Connor.
00:37:26
He's the one when I'm starting to feel down That brings me up and starts getting me optimistic about things.
00:37:31
But brings the hey does Hey, does even though we'll go off air and he'll secretly say to me like, Yeah, that was bad, like, but, uh, no, but I I, uh that that's the sort of that's gonna be my positive message for Patriot fans.
00:37:50
First of all, if there was gonna be any season that the Patriots, we're gonna have a rough season, why not be the 2020 season of just disaster right across, Not just in the NFL.
00:38:01
Just in society is the whole, um, with with the whole Covic ordeal.
00:38:07
Um, I think that a lot of people minus us because we get paid for it, forgot about football for a while when that when we're in the thick of the election, you know, there was so many distractions in 2020.
00:38:19
No, but I feel really I feel bad for the Super Bowl champions this year because I think everybody's gonna want to just forget this season and just move on from this year because I know as far as I'm concerned, as soon as midnight strikes on 2021 2020 2020 never existed for me.
00:38:35
Uh uh, Lawrence, I'll finish with corner, so I'll go to you.
00:38:40
Do you agree with my assessment that this is gonna be the worst year on in the Bill Belichick era? No.
00:38:47
Onley for one reason, because I think Bill Belichick will play out all of more than just a few more years.
00:38:53
I think that I think next year they will be better.
00:38:56
I think that will be better the year after that.
00:38:58
I just don't see Bill Belichick retiring anytime soon, and I think that he's going to end up being in a situation probably later on in the future where you might see another season similar to this or worse than this.
00:39:13
But I don't think it will be next year.
00:39:14
I think they'll they'll.
00:39:15
They'll make their adjustments there, improvements, um, the personnel wise and and do something with it.
00:39:22
But I don't see Bill Belichick.
00:39:24
He just seems like one of those guys who will probably be coaching team via the Internet from his deathbed.
00:39:32
Well, we don't want to get into this because we got to this really dark place Last it was last week, way were actually, like talking about Belichick's death.
00:39:42
So we're way got really, really dark into this conversation.
00:39:47
Even Connor went Whoa, this is going places.
00:39:49
This is going places, Meteo what I meant.
00:39:54
Well, that's where brought us.
00:39:56
Lord Connor.
00:39:57
I'll give you last word on it, man.
00:39:59
What? Like I mean, first of all, Okay, I got two questions for you, right? So first of all, do you agree Patriots gonna be better next year.
00:40:05
You know, this is the bad season in the Belichick era. Yes.
00:40:09
Um, but the Patriots also could still go six, you know? And then we would forget all about this bad era when they go to the wild card weekend.
00:40:16
I love the optimism starting to come back, the optimism starting to come until until they lose another game this season is technically still alive.
00:40:26
If they lose another one, then we have no choice.
00:40:29
But you can see because you really brought me down to the even when I said 10 and six and you said I don't think so.
00:40:34
That really that really brought me down because I'm like, No, no, you're the one that I'm the rat.
00:40:39
It's even when I decided I was gonna tell that guy off on Twitter.
00:40:43
You're the one that's supposed to say.
00:40:44
No, no, don't do that.
00:40:45
You were just letting everything go today.
00:40:47
You're like, Yeah, ****ing tell them offense disappointed is just a disappointing day before I go.
00:40:52
Can I ask you a question? Uh um I didn't get to watch the game.
00:40:58
I will in the morning before I do my streams.
00:41:01
But did Did Belichick send many bullets is against Watson.
00:41:07
Way sent a four.
00:41:09
Man.
00:41:10
We sent a four man rush every time.
00:41:13
You can't and it didn't get there.
00:41:15
You know what? The Watson was a problem.
00:41:17
The biggest problem, though, was we ran the ball like 25 times.
00:41:21
Cam Newton threw the ball 40 times on.
00:41:24
The game was never out of reach that they had to stop running the football.
00:41:27
I think Damian Harris was hurt and they couldn't run him the way they wanted to run him.
00:41:32
And then Rex Burkhead went out with the tourney cl and I think it forced them to throw the football down the field That that that is a dagger, in my opinion, to the Patriots, because, I mean, Rex Burkhead is that spark that this team goes to when they need a spark and t to get them back in the game.
00:41:52
They used him last week.
00:41:54
S o I just, man, that's that's terrible.
00:41:58
And, uh, my heart out to all you Patriots fans if you like Birkhead or not, I love Birkhead.
00:42:04
I think he's a great player.
00:42:05
I would love to have him on Indianapolis.
00:42:07
He kind of reminds me of No, he mines.
00:42:09
And in that aspect, And uh, yeah, that's that's that's That's a terrible loss. Connor.
00:42:16
There's there's nothing that I appreciate more than a Colts fan coming on here.
00:42:20
And just like validating everything I've been saying about Rex Burkhead since the off season, I'm a bit you guys know I'm a huge Rex Burkhead fan.
00:42:29
I mean, you know, like I've always loved Burki, my wife, my wife loves called him ***y Rexy.
00:42:36
You know, Cam Cam Too ***y.
00:42:38
Rexy.
00:42:39
That's her thing. No big blow.
00:42:41
And like I said, my my fear is is he's a he's a U f a this season, and I'm just so afraid that this is how we're going to see his season end.
00:42:50
So, Connor, last question goes to you, man, and then we're going to wrap this up because we got to go.
00:42:57
What's the Patriots floor next season? 13 games.
00:43:01
Well, now I'm nervous.
00:43:03
We'll have to see what happens in the offseason.
00:43:05
But if I have to say right now, I'll say 11 and five e love you so much for five.
00:43:14
Lawrence, before you take off, why don't you tell the people where they confined you? And I guess I want to thank you for coming this impromptu visit.
00:43:22
We always appreciate you coming on to DPM commentary.
00:43:26
Hey, thanks, man.
00:43:27
I have no problem coming on here, especially since I left you hanging toe watch my colts game.
00:43:32
Uh, you couldn't have broke me away with a pair of pliers.
00:43:35
I mean, there's just no way.
00:43:36
You know what, dude, I wasn't even gonna bother even going on slack to tell you that I was going on.
00:43:41
I just figured you weren't coming anyway, so it's okay.
00:43:44
No.
00:43:45
Yeah, it was It was just too tight of a game.
00:43:46
Game of the week.
00:43:47
Hey, you could follow me here on SportsCastr at Laurence Owen NFL.
00:43:52
Uh, check out my network, Lawrence.
00:43:55
I want all capital letters.
00:43:56
Very simple.
00:43:57
Check me out on Twitter.
00:44:00
Colts underscore law and on YouTube.
00:44:02
Lawrence. How one, man.
00:44:04
All right, Lawrence, thank you so much for coming on the show here.
00:44:08
Always.
00:44:09
Always appreciated.
00:44:10
Make sure you check him out.
00:44:11
He'll be on You're gonna be, is gonna be on all day tomorrow, starting at, like, 10 a.m. And onward.
00:44:15
And then Lawrence will be back with us at 7 p.
00:44:18
m.
00:44:19
Eastern time tomorrow night to do the Monday night football game, and he probably won't be back on deep.
00:44:23
No, he won't be on DPM commentary tomorrow because we got the East Coast West Coast football podcast on it, and it's gonna get really crowded if Lawrence shows up because there's already three of them.
00:44:31
Lawrence always appreciated, man.
00:44:32
Love you popping by.
00:44:34
Thank you.
00:44:35
Have a good take care man.
00:44:37
I love when Lawrence comes by.
00:44:39
Me too.
00:44:40
Man, this is a good dude on.
00:44:41
I like that.
00:44:42
It's no longer scheduled, and it's just like all impromptu, right? like it just It just happens.
00:44:49
Um, e I got one more question here for you from the audience.
00:44:52
Then we got to go because I gotta Come on, Ray.
00:44:55
Will your Arizona game be a statement game? Mr.
00:44:59
Optimistic? E mean, if the Patriots win, it certainly will be.
00:45:03
If they could come out and beat Arizona, the optimism will go through the roof.
00:45:07
Which I think is what happened last week versus the Ravens.
00:45:09
After they beat the Ravens were flying high.
00:45:12
I thought, Houston, no problem.
00:45:13
You know, we'll go from there.
00:45:16
I thought they were gonna win five out of the next six.
00:45:18
I really did.
00:45:19
Yeah, so did I.
00:45:21
I mean, I was the one who said maybe they could go 11 and they could win out.
00:45:25
Go 11 and five.
00:45:28
Well, here we are.
00:45:29
Season season is not mathematically over, but the improbability continues to grow and grow and grow again.
00:45:37
Here, we want to thank Lawrence for coming on.
00:45:39
Thank you for tuning in here to SportsCastr live.
00:45:42
This is no thank you for tuning a d.
00:45:44
P n.
00:45:45
Commentary on SportsCastr live DPM commentary is a SportsCastr featured podcast, and you can download the podcast every day when we're up and ready to go and, uh, catch some replays on YouTube and all that kind of thing.
00:45:59
But you can Onley catch us live on SportsCastr and we sneak in Facebook for For Joe.
00:46:06
What's up, Joe? Alright, Conner.
00:46:08
Anything you want to say to the people before we say goodbye? Six and O. C.
00:46:12
A wildcard. Weekends go.
00:46:14
Patriots Patriots! Mhm.
00:46:21
Yeah! Wow, yeah.

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