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and we are alive.
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Good evening.
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Everyone s 15.
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Reasonable doubt.
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I'm Chris.
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This Trevor here feel free to get out of the chat.
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Just mentions anything. Three.
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ETA's Trevor Trevor Lane to I'm I seeing this for more. Six.
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Yeah, it's a big topics.
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A lot of moving around MBA, um, talk some NFL coming out.
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So we kind of were on NBA draft.
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What? Not much.
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Just a little bit.
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A little bit of possible of the NFL.
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Um, Future wants to talk to a lot about different stuff because Buck's China make moves.
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We're making moves.
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I don't know what's going on there completely.
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I don't think you do either.
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Um, yeah.
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I just want to get started.
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You want to say anything first, or, um yeah, Adrian was dubrowski.
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Uh, never.
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Please. Never stepped foot in Milwaukee.
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Um, this isn't a threat or anything.
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We just don't want you in Milwaukee.
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Um, you screwed up the trade.
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Um, you just screwed it all up, you know? Yeah.
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You seemingly don't care.
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Um, and for all the teams that cried tampering, um, interesting that you went out and tampered about two days later.
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Um, nothing is probably gonna come to this investigation, but it's still pretty sad, this investigation, Um, especially with all the things that other teams have done.
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But you know what? This stuff happens.
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Um, it sucks.
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Obviously, I think the bucks did tamper to Well, no, they didn't tamper.
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Actually, they were just discussing trades, But every team tampers.
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So, you know, I'm not saying the bucks are perfect.
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I'm not saying the books.
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Um, you know, shouldn't be looked at it all.
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I'm not saying that everybody involved should be fired, but, um, this is pretty ridiculous.
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So MBA, uh, cut off, I guess.
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Hop. Just hop off.
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Yeah, there's a kind of common of that.
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I mean, I think the whole temporal was done in the first place.
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Like I'm not a big fan of it.
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There's like, who cares? Because, you know, they're still gonna talk anyway.
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Especially most players.
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Like, if you're like players behind close door is gonna be talking and kind of recruiting whatnot.
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I think it's the Demerol in general, and I don't think the bucks, because I don't think they tampered.
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I mean, even if so, like, they didn't Do you think it was a lot of things don't already do.
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It looks like you said so, Yeah, it's kind of weird that, like they pick random teams that they call for tampering.
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I don't get why per se just it doesn't really make sense why they really do that.
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It seems too big.
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They always do the teams that, like we're about to become like one of the top teams you're looking at on the kind of stacked that.
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That's kind of what they call it.
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It seems like, Yeah, I'd rather just be more consistent.
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I feel like I feel like every time there's a team that there's really good, try to make a big move.
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It kind of just like trying to get involved over the tampering.
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Just, I don't know, just be consistent, What, they're going to call that something every time.
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The top team doing well.
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On top of that, it's like what the NBA do it like the fact that people can call out other teams.
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It's like grade school like she did teacher.
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She did this.
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It's like shut the **** up, like if that be wants investigated, that should do it themselves.
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But it shouldn't be where teams can call on other teams because that just zip.
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And that's just not a good look in general.
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Yeah, because I mean, like, just isn't but going off the bucks, so I don't think they come out of it.
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I don't think it'll be anything too bad.
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I mean, at worst would probably be like a fine.
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Usually.
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What happens in these cases? Nothing, really.
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I don't want any pics or anything.
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It wasn't kind of big time camper.
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It wasn't like that bad or anything.
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That's like, next level.
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If I just may be a find out worse.
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Like maybe just e think you could make so many fans.
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If you do get fined on Twitter, send the bill to Adrian.
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Whoa, Generosity.
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It would be the funniest, best thing of all time.
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Please do it.
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Yeah, it's kind of weird that he reported that earlier saying can usually use on top of things usually like, Yeah.
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I mean, like you pointed out to me yesterday.
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I mean, he was the only major report the report of those news because all the other big MB inside none of no one from Fox support of it.
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No one from the athletic reported it was just more.
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Maybe you just make a little too early because kind of strange.
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You know, the important thing is people were talking about it, but they said pursuing instead of landing, which in tampering and in trades is a big difference.
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So I know we talked about that, but just in case, uh, you know, nobody else may or may not have known about that shut out toe.
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Yeah, Wording is important, I guess.
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Shout out toe devils, Adam for the thumbs up.
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We appreciate it.
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You have to move it on.
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So speaking of the bucks, I mean, they made a big major trade earlier in the week.
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They traded for Drew holiday.
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So a lot of people said that was when they get big time move, they traded, um, they had your holiday saying for George Hill And who's the other player? It was there, but Eric Blood Eric Bledsoe.
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So anything that moved for the bucks of adding your holiday for me, I think the bucks should, like, get on the pelicans to push it through because it hasn't gone through yet.
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And it seems like the pelicans air adding more and more teams to it.
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And I don't like it at all as a box fan.
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And if I'm the box I'm saying, OK, push this through you know, because if it's not benefiting you, toe, push this back, you know, to not push it through what's you know, what's the benefit of just sitting around? You know, I'm saying, like, get this trade done before anything else happens.
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You've seen some crazy things happen.
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Obviously, it's different than free agency when you know, the underdog got locked in his own house.
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Um, that members, obviously it's different, but like crazy things have happened.
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So, like, get this through Because if you're you know, if you're just waiting on this and they're just like, Oh, you want to jump in none of us at that dist.
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Get that through.
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Get this trade through because you already lost booked on you lose Drew holiday, too.
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I mean, you already kind of looked in that you can't lose this trade to you got to get this thing done like now, don't waste time.
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Don't let anything else possible happen with this.
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Get this done.
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Yeah, so I mean, like, I'm pretty sure the bucks are installers by the pelicans because these pelicans Okay, See, they're really stacking the deck for first round picks.
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Like there is collecting them like crazy.
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But that's the thing.
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Is the pelicans party just waiting.
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Not trying to get like, another person and try to get into a third team involved.
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Trying to get another pick is probably waiting because, yeah, the next six years is gonna be all just pelicans and thunder draft.
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It seems like no other team because, I mean the thunder.
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They got three more picks this morning.
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Three more first round picks.
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So they have 21 1st round picks the next six years, like 21 1st round.
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That's insane.
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Like, Wow.
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So, like, the thunder just really stacked with her pics and delicate, but, you know, pics to like, movies they're making.
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So it's probably the way to know.
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Yeah, well, and the big thing, too, is, you know, they have all these pics and don't get me wrong.
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Obviously, they're gonna hit on some because you have that many picks you're gonna hit on at least one you Maybe you don't always have to actively try to miss to not hit.
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But, you know, the interesting thing is, you know, these pics might not be top of the draft and don't get me wrong.
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I don't think it's a bad deal.
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It all to stack first round picks.
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But this isn't like the NFL.
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We don't know what the draft class is gonna look like.
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Heck, even next year, we have a slight idea, but we don't really know.
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So over the six years, obviously, it's a long span.
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But you know, we saw how bad this draft waas.
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You know what if four years down the line, it's even were searched? Justus bad.
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Those draft picks don't mean a lot.
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So, um, it's obviously great to stack first round picks.
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As many as you can, but no for all the people saying Okay, CEO New Orleans, they're the future.
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Let's pump the brakes a little bit because, you know these are also way in advance, like one of the bucks fixes like 2026.
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Six years from now, pelicans might be shipping that out to get another player because they're contender or they could be trained it to somebody else.
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You know, you just don't know so um, it's great.
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But let Z for all those saying all the thunder, The pelican.
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Let's let's pump the brakes a little bit.
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In my opinion, yeah, I told you, you're staying there.
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But like I will say, Um, yeah, so in the MBA, like I'm not NFL all personal because And I was super, super valuable.
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But MBA is pretty much lotteries, super valuable.
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I've had the lottery like I mean, you could still get many services starters and, like, you could be a start playing later in the first round.
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But usually it's not a high chance of that.
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So you needed a lot of you really want to try to get at the same time, like since you're done on the road like the Clippers, like they could be an awful team in six years.
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Or like any other teams, they got pics from kind of like they have a lot of Houston's picks. E.
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I mean, the rockets there, If they get rid of Harden and Westbrook, they're gonna be awful.
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So that's gonna be like potentially top three, top to maybe number one pig at the same time like, yeah, so right now it might seem like.
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Okay, maybe late in the first round, but six years and then down the road, that used to be fully differently.
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So yeah, I think that that seems to it could be all like, maybe they three of the five top 55 picks one year or something that you never know.
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So yeah, not not trying to get to off topic.
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But, you know, you brought up Houston.
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I think that's why you know we'll go into all this stuff later, but I think that's why Houston doesn't want to move Russ or hardened because they know if they do and they suck, they better get better.
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Because, yeah, it's all going to the thunder.
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Yeah, at the same time.
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It's gonna be tough, though, because if you don't ship these guys, let's say you know, heaven forbid Russell Westbrook tears a C l.
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Now your return is even worse.
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So you know, we'll see how this all plays out.
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Everything is obviously always moving, and this free agency period and trade deadline has not disappointed so far.
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So I mean, yeah, training, cancer, December 1st.
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That's 10 days from right now.
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So they're they're trying to just wrap it up.
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Kind of predicted it.
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Yeah, kind of growing up in Houston to Yeah, because they're in a really bad spot because they can't really build because they have no pics to rebuild because they gave it all away and trades trying to, like, go all in on this team is currently constructed it.
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So it's just gonna be, like car from and get better.
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And also like like, there are big market.
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But reagents only go to, like, the Texas team.
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They don't go to Dallas and Houston.
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I don't really know why.
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I mean, no state income tax, either.
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Like, you think it be a more of a big kind of market players want to go to, but they usually struggle to get free agents, too.
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So it'll be hard from the kind of bounced back and no Durham or either, so, yeah, for sure.
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Um, you know, and you look at this Houston Rockets roster right now, I don't really know what they're doing.
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I mean, you get a lot of teams that I don't really know what you're doing.
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Obviously, the rockets are one.
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Um, you know, Charlotte Hornets are a whole another problem, But, um, it's gonna be interesting, because I'd assume for a lot of teams, some of these there's still a lot of moving pieces at play because a lot of these guys a lot of these teams, are horrible.
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Either these g m's are just going have lost their complete minds or we still have a lot of moves left to see.
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Yeah, I mean, like, so kind of going out with that kind of trip, The next question in the ass.
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So what do you think is the most surprising movie? Thinks so far in the great this free agency period or trade period? Um, that's tough.
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I would have to probably say, um, the Hornets, obviously for Gordon Hayward.
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Um oh, my God.
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Get into that E moving all they gave $120 million.
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It doesn't make sense.
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And all the one that doesn't make sense is, um, Christian would to the Rockets.
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I love him.
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I think he's a great player.
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He was fantastic with the bucks when they dropped him so that they get Meritage.
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I was ****ed.
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I loved Christian, wouldn't everything.
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I thought he was your hey, great for the pelicans when he was there.
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He was great for the Rockets when he was there, but I just don't understand because his team has Tyson Chandler.
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Still, you know, they traded for Covington, which would make you see the three and D.
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But, you know, they just traded for a couple of guys to make it just a three point shooting. Small team.
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So you have a different GM.
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But why are you getting not only Tyson Chandler, but also Christian? Would I feel like you were going to do anything? Get one.
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Maybe not both.
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It seems silly to give up on it now. Already.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I kind of agree.
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That was kind of like a weird move.
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Some people Houston doing in general, Just Houston.
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Just very weird spot.
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Like I mean, are they gonna try to just trade, like, Parted and Ross to me? Like you betrayed them? Like you can't get first round picks back.
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So there's I mean, place.
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That could be a start there to be.
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Think about it.
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Yeah, because I mean, I don't see the direction it can go because I don't think hard and Rusk and win the championship I don't see them winning, especially in the West.
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I don't see them pulling through and winning it.
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So I think that's why the only way out to go.
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I'll say so, Yeah.
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And then, like for some reason, yeah, like, I don't know why you can't get creative to come to Houston.
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Just I don't know why.
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It means a big market.
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You think it could, but they just can't.
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Yeah, going We should probably go into a Charlotte Hornets next.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So Charlotte Hornets yesterday signed going to Hayward Thio.
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Probably close to a mascot.
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Four years, 120 million.
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And yeah, so they already have a big basket at the Nick Batum.
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He had a big contract.
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Then he just dropped Lemelle a ball to so waiting.
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This team's going, maybe building around Ball and Hayward and the monster Grammy.
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Think Or what do you think, Michael Jordan doing types to do this and I believe with my whole heart.
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Michael Jordan is the Michael Jordan of bad gm's.
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He's horrible.
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Um, Gordon Hayward.
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30 year.
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Nicolas Batum, $27 million a year.
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He's done nothing since, like 2014, Terry Rozier had one great playoff series against Bledsoe, who now we know it's because blood so sucks in the playoffs.
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Not because of Terry Rozier, 18.
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9 million Cody's Zeller.
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15.
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5 million Bismack Biyombo, 17 million And now he goes out and he drafts Lemelle, Oh, Ball three and Lemelle a ball is the ****y ist most arrogant player.
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He's not ready, and he's going to divide this locker room.
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So not only do you have basically all your money tied up, you have, you know, all due respect, but you have a giant ******* that you just drafted.
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I don't understand what he's doing.
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I get Lem L.
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A.
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Was the best available.
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What we talked about it best, best available doesn't mean anything if he's not a good fit.
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You know, I drafted Vernon Carey to start the second round.
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That was a little early.
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And then Grant earlier point guard from Charleston.
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Um, I just I just have no clue what they're trying to do here.
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This team is horrible, absolutely horrible.
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Do you see that? That's going to make it look like a playoff run or anything.
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You think you know on the baby.
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I mean, I have no clue.
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I'd have to look at the standings, which I got right here.
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Um, real quick.
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I think one of the biggest moves people need to understand is Jae Crowder leaving Miami.
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I think that's gonna have a little better implications of people think I'm not even wrong.
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I am not at all saying that the bucks are better in the heat now.
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There's still so much stuff that has to be worked out.
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But, you know, Eric Spoelstra did say, and he was right.
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This Miami Buck series was a lot closer than for one dogging wrong.
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Buck should not have won the Siri's.
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I'm not saying that, but they won Game one by 11 that I was helped a lot by free throws.
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Game two. They had a massive comeback.
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One by two Game three Massive Come back again one by 15, Game four.
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They lost Game five.
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They won a close game without Yana.
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So we're never gonna win that take out Jae Crowder bucks.
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I can see them stretching this this Siris in particular to six or seven.
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Um, I don't again.
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I don't think they would have won, but you know, it's things can change.
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Things can definitely change.
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So look out for that.
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But, you know, back to the point in the playoffs, I I don't see Charlotte making it.
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Um, there were 10 games behind Orlando.
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Um, I just don't see it.
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I don't see a team that they're going to jump out of Orlando.
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Brooklyn's obviously better. Philly.
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Miami, Indiana, Boston, Toronto, Milwaukee.
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I don't see a team.
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They're going to jump unless Indiana loses. Oladipo.
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Yeah, for me.
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I would agree here.
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I mean, unless the mill apologist goes crazy.
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Cruz is wrong.
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He's like one of the top of the league or something.
00:17:45
Hey, would like comes back to All star form, which I doubt this book.
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I mean, he's older now and like he's still, it's never come from the horrific injury that he had.
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So, yes, I don't see it happening.
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I think it's a very weird teams.
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I mean, Jordan, just like you said, like he's always making really questionable moves and whatnot.
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So I really like about 10 years ago now, they had a really strong team going through Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, and they were like a kind of up and coming team and he blew it up.
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He said, No, That's not good enough.
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Remember, I was so massive.
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That seems like they played really hard.
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They felt really well together.
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He blew it up.
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You know? I want to get better.
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We haven't recovered since.
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I don't think they ever since they haven't just recovered to keep this.
00:18:27
He wanted, like, the worst teams in the league.
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Obviously the Jordan favorite move of drafting Kwamie Brown.
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I mean, that was awful.
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Pick.
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He ended being absolute total bus.
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Yeah, he has in general, just makes a lot of questionable move.
00:18:41
This kind just adds to it, but the only way you can kind of make up for it with Melo Barley shows.
00:18:46
That would be what, One of the star players in the league, which I don't see happening because his defense is atrocious.
00:18:52
He's not very strong.
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I mean, he's not very big in general.
00:18:55
I mean, there was so much as much as you.
00:18:57
We talked to that.
00:18:58
Lots of So I just don't see it happening going on top of that, you know, Charlotte was not only 10 games behind Orlando, they're 23 42.
00:19:10
They were ninth in the East, but their point differential per game was fourth worst in the N B A.
00:19:16
The only teams that were worst.
00:19:17
We're Golden State Atlanta in Cleveland, and they lost every game by an average of 6.
00:19:23
7 points.
00:19:25
Knicks were 6.5.
00:19:27
So even though you know it was 23 42 this team was worse than should have been worse than that.
00:19:39
Yeah. I mean, I agree.
00:19:40
So I mean, I mean, I'm rooting for Jordan.
00:19:43
I mean, obviously, like I wanted to be a good owner.
00:19:46
I mean, obviously, he's the only black tolerant Louis.
00:19:48
I root for success.
00:19:49
He's a former players.
00:19:50
Here's his unique perspective.
00:19:52
You think you'd be better, but we hope it works out, but I just don't see it happening.
00:19:58
Yeah, but back to the most surprising move, I would say no surprising move to me would probably be.
00:20:05
I was surprised.
00:20:06
Mantra is how we're going to the Lakers.
00:20:07
I didn't expect that one.
00:20:08
No one is really surprised that he went.
00:20:10
I mean, like he's hated the Lakers throughout the year, gives a big, great guy for the Clippers.
00:20:14
He went to the rival, but I just wanted surprised.
00:20:19
Yeah, real quick shoutout diesel for the tip.
00:20:23
We appreciate you, um and you know, going back Thio Montrose.
00:20:28
Harold, It kind of surprised me at first, but now that I'm thinking about it out loud, I guess it kind of makes sense.
00:20:36
Heralds always been an absolute dog.
00:20:38
He's a fierce competitors.
00:20:39
He just wants toe win.
00:20:41
He'll do everything he does the dirty stuff.
00:20:44
And now he was in a situation where CO I and Paul George or getting a ton of preferential treatment.
00:20:51
Um co.
00:20:53
I showed up the most out of those two, which says a lot because he really didn't do much either.
00:20:59
And now I can see my trust.
00:21:01
So it's probably screw this.
00:21:03
I don't want to deal with this, you know, he's a no B s type guy.
00:21:06
So, you know, go to a team where you know, he got guys like LeBron and a D that have the same exact mentality.
00:21:14
You know, I guess all things considered, it makes sense.
00:21:17
And although I hate it as a move, because it just makes that team better, I think at the end of the day.
00:21:24
Um, you know, if I was at the Clippers, I don't want to get the hell out, too.
00:21:30
Yeah.
00:21:31
I mean, like, I remember like Stephen, a spin from ESPN.
00:21:33
He reported that Harold really question like Paul George, like focus and like, effort in times So he thought, like George got, like, got too carried away with the L A lifestyle and stuff that was too cool and stuff at times and quiet skip practices and be late for the team planes and team Busses and whatnot.
00:21:50
So you probably got annoyed by that.
00:21:52
I mean, like he said, he's a dog like you.
00:21:54
He's all about basketball.
00:21:56
She's about grit and grind.
00:21:57
He said he took a Jimmy Butler kind of personalities, so he probably didn't like He's like, Here's like that.
00:22:02
Fighting really ticked him off.
00:22:03
So highlight figured to leave, and he's figured go to the Lakers because they're obviously focused on when they just sort of rain defending champions.
00:22:11
And then, obviously, I mean, if you're a Clipper player, I mean, you have to move or anything, literally just stay in the same house, the move, or any idea, family or your stay in the same place you see Marina to and everything.
00:22:23
So you're right there.
00:22:24
So that literally changes just different uniforms.
00:22:28
Different.
00:22:30
Boss, this I'm actually really excited because I think both you and me going into this past season both were saying outwardly, this Clippers team is actually not going to be that good.
00:22:42
And even after they beat the Lakers, I think twice we were both still saying they're not that good.
00:22:49
They get smacked at the box. Somebody says the flu.
00:22:52
We're still saying that they're not that good.
00:22:54
Now they just the size of things.
00:22:56
That's the big thing in the chemistry.
00:22:59
Beverly's 32 joking Noah isn't gonna be much. 35.
00:23:03
You know Lou Wills, 33.
00:23:05
They got Paul George Kawhi Leonard.
00:23:07
That hasn't solved itself completely.
00:23:10
New coach.
00:23:11
I cannot wait because I've been saying this team would this would happen.
00:23:16
I don't think this quick, but this team is about to hit a really, really low point, and I think this seems going toe below up.
00:23:24
I think this this could possibly be a worse disaster even than Brooklyn.
00:23:30
Um, because you lose a guy like Harold.
00:23:33
He's a glue guy.
00:23:34
I mean, and I have to tell you that, you know.
00:23:36
So, yeah, I would be very, very worried from a Clippers fan.
00:23:42
Although, if you're a Clippers fan, um, well, half of them are most likely people jumping on the bandwagon, but for the rial l A Clipper fans, I'm sorry, but it's not looking good.
00:23:54
I mean, yeah, I kind of go at that point.
00:23:56
You know, I don't know what the Clippers do from here.
00:23:58
I mean, like, next summer, like Paul Jordan acquired both free agency could get rid of one of them and let them walk.
00:24:04
Or maybe move like a Paul George or something.
00:24:07
But yeah, I just feel like they've been very quiet so far.
00:24:10
Of the creative security.
00:24:11
They're the only team like you haven't seen them make any kind of big moves or anything.
00:24:14
Okay, so the traded what Landes shaman for, like, would they get again? See, I gotta remember it wasn't like that big of a move.
00:24:22
A is a very, very, very good backup.
00:24:26
They got Luke Kennard, but Luke Kennard? Yeah, the traditional conard.
00:24:30
I mean, like a poke. A shooter.
00:24:33
I mean, but the same time, like obviously that make any any kind of big time lose or anything.
00:24:37
So they've been very quiet and they lost out on Rondo two.
00:24:41
They were going to Rhonda really hard and, you know, starting from the Hawks, which that surprised me, too, because you only making seven million a year.
00:24:48
So like he's not making that much money from the Hawks.
00:24:50
So he probably didn't want to play for the Clippers.
00:24:52
You probably just sperm them said no.
00:24:54
Good.
00:24:55
Wow, that really surprised me to Is the Clippers have been They haven't done any kind of moves.
00:24:59
I don't know where they even go from here.
00:25:02
Honestly, I don't think it's crazy to say, Just blow it up.
00:25:08
Marcus Morris could be gone this year to he's a free agent.
00:25:12
I didn't really notice that with all their caps, with all their cap holds right now, they have 23 million in luxury cap.
00:25:22
But in practical cap there a million four over.
00:25:27
So you can't make moves.
00:25:29
This team obviously isn't gonna win, especially when you lose Harold.
00:25:34
I would put the nuggets pest.
00:25:35
Um, another year.
00:25:36
Luca, I know you're Luca Fan.
00:25:38
I'm a Dallas and I would put Dallas prisoners back.
00:25:41
Thio back? Yeah.
00:25:43
I mean, you've got a whole e want to beat the Clippers and particles was healthy last year.
00:25:48
You want to play? Yeah.
00:25:49
You got a whole new pelicans team another year? Um, Minnesota obviously was 19 and 45 but this team could be a challenge, depending on how they play.
00:25:59
A lot of teams that can beat this team. Utah.
00:26:02
Um, if I'm the Clippers, there's no way you're winning the title.
00:26:07
Even if somehow you get out of the West, somebody is going to beat you from the east.
00:26:11
Um, I mean, they lost the bucks twice last year and the bucks got better.
00:26:16
Arguably.
00:26:17
So I said, blow it up.
00:26:18
To be honest, it sounds stupid, but, um, I'd much rather if I was a Clippers fan, have a lot of picks and have a future than No, I'm not gonna win the title and have both guys leave for free.
00:26:32
That's the problem.
00:26:33
They don't have picks.
00:26:34
They got rid of five first rounders from Paul George.
00:26:35
I mean, they gave hall for him.
00:26:37
So at the same time, like they don't have a lot of assets.
00:26:40
So at the same time, like he said, blow it up like, Do you want to get rid of both Hawaiian, Paul, George and keep one of the other like, What do you think? I think you have to trade him for draft picks.
00:26:50
I don't think you have an option.
00:26:52
Um, they said the Clippers franchise that, like they've been known to be horrible, so, like at the same time, like there's be right back to where they're supposed to use in the ba*****t of Los Angeles.
00:27:02
Forget about them.
00:27:03
So you really wanna go in the direction of the Clippers? That's just kind of hard because we don't know the 2030 years of being bad.
00:27:10
I mean, I think you have Thio.
00:27:13
They don't have one in 2021.
00:27:17
The only draft picks, the only first round draft.
00:27:19
Pick this if I'm if I'm reading this right, and I think I am the next first round draft pick they have is 2027 it's their own.
00:27:31
Exactly.
00:27:32
Yeah.
00:27:33
They got rid of all because of Paul.
00:27:35
George. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you have to blow it up.
00:27:37
You absolutely have to blow it up, and it's crazy to say this, but if they leave, this team is gonna be really bad and I don't care.
00:27:46
How will you draft? You have to find some Krazy Jim's some crazy deep drafts to be ableto even get out of the cellar with second round picks.
00:27:55
Yeah, I mean the same time.
00:27:58
Like we're just talking like you said, like, um, because of them blowing it up.
00:28:03
But you know who gets all those picks up? Oklahoma City.
00:28:05
So we started the show.
00:28:06
So we started to get all those pics then, because really, really valuable.
00:28:12
You know, if your Oklahoma City, I mean, do you, uh, it would be interesting to see.
00:28:20
I hope it won't have, but it would be hilarious if Okay, see, offered them like two of their first round draft picks back for Kawhi Leonard.
00:28:29
Like if he signs with, um like just to spite them because they have nowhere to go.
00:28:34
I don't think anybody is going to give first for co I seeing how he is the leader there.
00:28:39
Not going to get first for Paul George because he has been garbage.
00:28:43
I mean, a shot that hit the side of the backboard.
00:28:45
I could do that.
00:28:47
I could do that 20 times out of 20.
00:28:50
Like this is bad.
00:28:55
Yeah.
00:28:56
I mean, it's not a good look at the same time.
00:28:57
Yeah, just we both question this team from the very start.
00:29:01
I mean, I'm pretty good back in December 2000 Lakers heat final, and I got it exactly right at the same time.
00:29:07
Just Yeah, I mean, then they're they've been very quiet.
00:29:10
It's creation, period.
00:29:11
So I just don't know like, what they're gonna do from here, because, yeah, the guy knew because he got Ty Lue there.
00:29:16
I mean, Kelly was down.
00:29:17
He was on a bunch of last year, so it would be that big of a change.
00:29:20
I personally don't think so.
00:29:22
I mean, like, he was still, like around.
00:29:24
So it's not because of a brand new guy like brand new voice.
00:29:27
I don't think that's good enough either.
00:29:29
Well, and another problem is, who do you trade? Either of them, too? Nobody's going to take y in the East.
00:29:35
The one team maybe would be Philly or Brooklyn, but I don't think he fits in with those players personality wise.
00:29:42
Um, in the West, all these teams air loaded.
00:29:46
I mean, maybe the rockets, But again, personality rise.
00:29:49
I don't see that working.
00:29:52
And the Rockets don't have any picks to trade for him.
00:29:54
So for both him and George, I mean, the only way I can see Georgia even is if somebody gives you, like nothing for him because he's almost worthless at 30 year.
00:30:05
Yeah, So you have to kind of bring it back, Thio.
00:30:08
I mean, both Grady's next summer.
00:30:09
Somebody, if you can't trade any, would always just let him go on just to change.
00:30:12
Take this cap space.
00:30:13
I guess you always do that.
00:30:15
Being kept space for L A team like you're still l a.
00:30:18
People still don't want to come to you and Steve bombs air Fantastic.
00:30:21
Older. I mean, he's very energetic.
00:30:23
He's very player friendly.
00:30:25
So players who would want to complain for him I mean, I want to complain for him.
00:30:28
He's so, like, energetic.
00:30:29
And he's like a great boss, like he's like, amazing on the sideline.
00:30:33
Remember him in a bubble.
00:30:34
He's just like he's like a cheerleader pretty much the same time they like they will be there.
00:30:38
Attract guys were Los Angeles big market and like those the owners.
00:30:42
So so, yeah, maybe just you can always let him go to.
00:30:47
Yeah, And I mean now, speaking of it, the only team that would trade for either one would maybe Boston with losing Hayward.
00:30:54
They have the space for it.
00:30:55
But, you know, I'm glad you brought up Palmer because I love him.
00:30:58
I feel like if any, like, really big fan ever won the lottery and bought a team, they would be Steve Balmer.
00:31:05
Like he's I love seeing him.
00:31:07
And, like Mark Cuban because they're like a regular fans owned a team instead of you always ****es me off.
00:31:13
You get some old, like, white guy or girl? Yeah.
00:31:19
It's just like sitting there like, Oh, I'm here.
00:31:22
This is my team.
00:31:24
Like, no, Like you own it, MBA franchise, like, get hyped like, Come on.
00:31:29
So I wish him the best.
00:31:31
Because I love him is an owner, but it's not looking good.
00:31:35
And they have to spend money on a stadium to I forgot about this.
00:31:39
Yeah, for an arena just got approved, so yeah, I gotta bring arena come in, like, three years? Yeah.
00:31:46
Who's gonna Who's gonna have the most wins there in the next three years After CO I and Paul George, the Lakers and the Clippers? I think it might actually be the Lakers.
00:31:59
Yeah, I would say so.
00:32:02
Which is not sad, but yeah.
00:32:05
I mean, I wish bombing the best to, but yeah, still a lot of rules to be made in general around the league, which is I mean, yeah, one that kind of hurt.
00:32:19
Me, too, is like Dwight Howard left Lakers and Bradley.
00:32:23
And we lost Rondo to Didn't really affect the Lakers in any sense.
00:32:26
Or do you think I'm adding Harold? Problem is good enough to kind of, like, offset that, um, had the dentist or two to on a train, remember? Yeah, I don't I don't think it hurts him at all.
00:32:39
Um, yeah.
00:32:40
Wes Matthews to your guy? Yeah.
00:32:42
Wes.
00:32:43
Wes Matthews.
00:32:44
I love from what I've been hearing not only seen stuff come up during the season, but also from, you know, the bubble.
00:32:53
Um, Wes Matthews is leaving because Bud ****ed him off too much.
00:33:00
Um, if you're watching, if you follow me on Twitter.
00:33:03
The if you just listen to me talk ever but was absolutely atrocious in the playoffs, arguably should have been fired. He looked horrible.
00:33:12
Um, his rotations were terrible.
00:33:15
West, Matthew's best defender.
00:33:16
I've said it since the start.
00:33:19
West Matthews is the best defender.
00:33:20
Not may be honest or broke on the Bucks team, and he didn't give a minutes in the playoffs.
00:33:25
And it makes sense to because, you know, West Matthews is very strong.
00:33:29
Wisconsin roots.
00:33:30
His dad went to Wisconsin, he went to Marquette.
00:33:33
His family's been there a lot, and he goes to the Lakers for an extra, like, maybe million dollars.
00:33:41
You know, like don't like the Bucks are great contender, arguably top two in the East.
00:33:48
So it doesn't really get you that much more ring chasing wise.
00:33:52
Money wise, he's made his money.
00:33:55
Um, he's a great asset.
00:33:57
He's a great defender.
00:33:58
He locked on quiet multiple times last year.
00:34:01
Um, you know, mantra is Harold Dennis shrewder at the very worst.
00:34:06
This team is a push.
00:34:09
Mhm.
00:34:10
Yeah, so, like, I mean I mean, I like the way my hard luck because, like, he tweeted, he was staying and they announced he's going toe building.
00:34:16
Like, what the heck is going on there? Every Bradley, Obviously, I didn't like, even if he didn't go to the bubble.
00:34:22
So I I don't think you shouldn't get a ring.
00:34:24
I was like, No, because I was, like, a different season.
00:34:27
So he was in part, any of it.
00:34:28
And now he's leaving to I was like, No, he didn't get a ring it magic eso Yeah, that's kinda allegedly I don't get that one in Miami.
00:34:36
I mean, that kind of makes up for doing with Jae crowder.
00:34:39
Gets to you in Miami.
00:34:41
Yeah.
00:34:42
You don't mind me? Yeah, he agreed to it today, so yeah, I mean, that kind of helps out for them with Jae Crowder, too.
00:34:50
And then Rondo mean like we have prepared for that for him to go.
00:34:53
We were kind of ready for him to go the same time, like it's still gonna hurt a little bit.
00:34:57
But I think that's really will help, because just like a little bit, I was glad Ron sitting on top.
00:35:04
Yeah.
00:35:05
Yeah.
00:35:06
It's interesting, though, that Bradley trade.
00:35:08
I didn't hear about that looking it up.
00:35:09
He's going to be making about 5.
00:35:11
5 mill this season.
00:35:13
Yeah, I know which.
00:35:15
I mean, I obviously the market is way different.
00:35:19
I feel like that's a lot for him.
00:35:22
Just because we haven't seen him play in a while.
00:35:25
Um you mean, like, what? March.
00:35:28
March in the last time.
00:35:31
Um, have you heard anything about going on Dragic? Because that's gonna be a big one, too.
00:35:36
Well, yeah, he and I was still, like, right away Like it, right? We created the open immediately.
00:35:39
Yeah, I actually hate was, like immediately.
00:35:42
Yeah, it was like it was like, I like five or one.
00:35:44
Our time he announced it.
00:35:47
Yeah, and I mean, it will be interesting, because for the heat here they might I might find themselves in a little bit of trouble.
00:35:54
Salary cap wise, Solomon Hill.
00:35:56
I don't see him opting out of 19 million Meyers Leonard with 17 million.
00:36:01
Um, if I'm not mistaken, so I mean, we'll see what happens with the heat, but yeah, I mean, Lakers should easily be making out of the first round our TV first round, of course, making out of the West.
00:36:16
Um, it's just a matter of what they can win the finals.
00:36:19
Yes.
00:36:20
I mean, Miami.
00:36:21
Like pretty much none of the salary cap to get ready for next summer.
00:36:23
We obviously have a big shoes prize.
00:36:26
Krieg.
00:36:27
Im walkie.
00:36:28
I think you're feeling the name going.
00:36:30
Preferring to I mean, they're trying to make a big push for him because of the big glamour market in South Beach.
00:36:35
Bring him.
00:36:36
I mean, just kind of like Bram move. You never know.
00:36:39
I mean, they could have made that question.
00:36:41
We'll see if that happens, but I know a little sensitive topic for us.
00:36:45
I want to get into that right now.
00:36:46
No, she should get into this because now they think about it.
00:36:53
I'm I'm gonna get flamed for this.
00:36:58
I cannot believe I'm going to say this, but I think the Miami Heat are better without the honest And they would be with him.
00:37:08
What? Really? And here's why.
00:37:11
Um, they'd probably give you honest.
00:37:15
What would it have to be like, 35 year? Probably. Yeah.
00:37:19
Right.
00:37:20
35 35 41.
00:37:23
Jimmy Butler can't shoot threes.
00:37:25
At least not in the playoffs.
00:37:26
Not this past year.
00:37:27
He could improve it. That that's fine. No.
00:37:29
Yeah, that never has been.
00:37:30
Never has.
00:37:31
He can't shoot.
00:37:33
Yanis can't shoot threes.
00:37:34
I pray the day comes.
00:37:35
We can't shoot threes.
00:37:37
You're gonna have to lose Thio, get Yang If you don't have to either lose.
00:37:42
Um You know, hero, you might have to lose.
00:37:45
Um Duncan Robinson.
00:37:47
You might have to lose Dragic.
00:37:49
You're gonna be losing some pieces.
00:37:51
And I love Yanis.
00:37:53
I will always say he is.
00:37:54
He is top two in the playoffs.
00:37:57
He was definitely not.
00:37:58
But last season, statistically, he was top three, and he isn't three.
00:38:03
Um, if they get him, they lose a lot of pieces.
00:38:08
They're shooting, goes down drastically.
00:38:10
And that shooting is what carried them in a lot of Siri's.
00:38:13
Obviously, if you're the heat, you have to go after him.
00:38:17
But, you know, thinking of all the money that would be held up for him and all they have to lose to keep him and keep that salary.
00:38:24
I don't know if this is the move for Miami.
00:38:29
I mean, so you kind of mentioned like they have to lose pieces.
00:38:32
I mean, I was just talking to trade they won't necessarily lose coming.
00:38:34
Yeah, here.
00:38:35
He's on a rookie deal right now, So you're not gonna lose Capitalize.
00:38:38
So and then, like boring drugs? They're pretty sure like I would assume right by making a deal.
00:38:44
So? So? So it's cap friendly.
00:38:46
So you still have slider You honestly wanted to like? I'm sure, like they probably probably thought about that is a very smart, like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's thought about then here, Obviously, the working deals.
00:38:56
It's not that much.
00:38:58
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you lost Crowder.
00:39:00
Sure he lost that Avery Bradley is a pretty friendly deal.
00:39:03
I mean, he said it wasn't very much money.
00:39:05
They make it neither.
00:39:07
So they're probably They're on their way to be steptoe, like, make that kind of And I still keep some of the pieces.
00:39:16
Yeah, you know, I just look at so and you know Jimmy Butler.
00:39:20
I'm sure he structured his contract, but, you know, hero has a club option.
00:39:25
That's great.
00:39:27
But, you know, if they don't win it 2021 2022 hero, you know, can leave.
00:39:34
Jimmy Butler will be making 38.
00:39:36
Yeah.
00:39:37
So we're making 35 You know, that's 73.
00:39:40
75 million he got right there here.
00:39:43
You know, you don't have a lot of room for extra guys.
00:39:47
Um, and I love you.
00:39:49
Honest. The long term will be hard.
00:39:51
Yeah. So long term.
00:39:52
Yeah.
00:39:53
And I love you, honest.
00:39:54
But when somebody said he's Jordan and you need to pip and he's right.
00:39:58
And Butler, as good as he is, I don't think would work is a Pippen because of his three point shot? I don't know.
00:40:05
I don't see it working.
00:40:08
Yeah, but we like high degree.
00:40:10
There is a long term be hard.
00:40:12
But, I mean, they do all the shows that they have the hero.
00:40:14
You have the delicate Robinson's, and you have the jobs that kind of make up for that shooting.
00:40:18
So, like you were at Yonsei, that team, I think it could work because he had the almost shooters to kind of make up for Jimmy.
00:40:24
Boy shooting will not be ableto kind of sniper because Duncan Robinson, he's one of the best of the Lee. He is a sniper.
00:40:31
Oh, my gosh.
00:40:33
It's like, yeah, like Kim Joe Harris stuff and clay like, feels like that's probably top shooters in the town in Trey when he's hot, Sometimes he can create a cold, but yeah, he's a sniper, but it will be interesting.
00:40:49
You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna pull on Adrian Wojnarowski.
00:40:52
Um, there is absolutely nothing saying that this is gonna happen.
00:40:55
I'm gonna pull it out of my ass anyway.
00:40:57
Is going to be the first person to say this? Uh, probably not because somebody's probably ready said this, but, um, yeah, Aniston in Greece right now.
00:41:04
When he comes back, he will sign to Supermax with the bucks.
00:41:08
Um, I think it's gonna now He's been operated starting yesterday, right? And he still didn't sign that.
00:41:14
So I think they still don't agree.
00:41:16
So he's in Greece.
00:41:18
I'm sure if he was gonna be coming back soon.
00:41:21
I mean, like, December 1st training camp.
00:41:22
I was coming back in the next week.
00:41:24
He's got Thio.
00:41:25
I would soon I would assume he's coming back.
00:41:27
And I feel like, you know, your you know, your Sinus Supermax.
00:41:31
Even if you know what's in the contract, you're probably not gonna fax it over to Greece.
00:41:36
And I'm not saying that you said it or anything.
00:41:38
You know, you were inferring that.
00:41:39
But I feel like once he comes back, I I think, you know, knowing you honest and, you know, you honest as a player and as a person, that is with his mindset.
00:41:48
I think he's gonna be the mindset of cool.
00:41:51
You may move you.
00:41:53
You keep letting me have input on the moves you keep making moves like this.
00:41:57
Let's sign the ****.
00:41:58
Let's get over it.
00:41:59
Let's not worry about this the whole season. Let's lock in.
00:42:01
Um, that's how I see it.
00:42:02
So, um, November 21st I say Yanis gonna send Supermax within the week, assuming his back from the week, you know, So that makes sense.
00:42:12
I mean, like him not signing it immediately.
00:42:14
It's not a bad.
00:42:15
I don't think I mean eighties when we were talking the Lakers.
00:42:16
Yeah, technically, frame it right now.
00:42:18
He could even leave, But all six singles a pointing towards him still signing a deal with the Lakers like no one, everything him to leave e.
00:42:26
I don't think it's a bad thing, is assigned it immediately.
00:42:29
I know, like I saw some bucks fan like on my twitter be They're saying like, Oh, my God, He's he decided, like, yesterday.
00:42:33
Like his job is gonna leave, Like, calm down like, yeah, Like you said, he is in Greece.
00:42:38
I didn't know he was in Greece.
00:42:39
Me, everything. Greet them. Just enjoy his time. His family.
00:42:41
Like, enjoy that.
00:42:42
Well, on top of that, you know, we've talked about this before to this quarantine, and this code is arguably the best thing to happen to the bucks chances signing on.
00:42:52
You know, the salary goes down.
00:42:56
Um, you know, it's a quick start.
00:42:58
You can say, Hey, look, we now have a lot of time.
00:43:01
You thought we tried to dio We still got one trade done.
00:43:04
We still got some good draft picks.
00:43:05
Still got you good shooters.
00:43:07
Next year, we're going to do it.
00:43:09
Signed on the dotted line.
00:43:10
And at the end of the day, hey would be losing what, like $30 million over the course of, like, five years doesn't sign with the trucks, which, if you wanna I mean, the bucks are a song this season on the bucks.
00:43:23
They're gonna be a winner.
00:43:24
So, um, they're always gonna have a chance is always gonna be on his shoulders.
00:43:28
So, you know, I think I think he'll kind of within the week.
00:43:33
Yeah, I'll pick completely.
00:43:35
Agree with that kind of bounce off of that? Yeah.
00:43:39
Definitely will sign within the week.
00:43:42
Oh, yeah, 100%.
00:43:43
It is pretty e Think the hold is probably trying to figure out just like the five year Mac to do Just do it like a one plus one day that LeBron always didn't like e trying to figure out.
00:43:54
I mean, if I may be out of place in the five year, I mean, like, he has had some injury history.
00:43:59
I mean, he's been a little injury prone.
00:44:01
So, like, you never know at the same time, like first have been like, we'll get big contracts like, Wow, they've been injured.
00:44:09
I mean, look at Katie and still at the same time, Like with a d.
00:44:12
Like being a big I say you can't be respect because he relies too much on like this.
00:44:17
But maybe else on the five year just kind of trust the Lakers, I think Jeannie Buss is a great owner.
00:44:21
Are Blink is a great GM.
00:44:23
They made a lot of moves and they're very aggressive the past three years.
00:44:26
I trust thumbs.
00:44:27
So years.
00:44:31
If I were him, I'd take probably a one plus one.
00:44:36
Um or like a two plus one, depending on one LeBron's contract ends.
00:44:40
Um, just because he's only 27.
00:44:43
So if I were him, obviously you can't you're gonna win some or two titles and then you know when that's over, you'll probably be 29. 30.
00:44:50
You can still get like a Supermax somewhere.
00:44:52
Um, get your last really big contract.
00:44:55
But you know more about the Lakers and ideo I I would I would be willing to bet he does something like a five years.
00:45:02
Yes, LeBron creates the next summer.
00:45:03
Talent that sounds country goes through inspires.
00:45:06
So, like you could do the 1.
00:45:07
1 for that reason to kind of like matter LeBron, because there has been a lot of rumors about him wanting to put Chicago's and, like, um, 80 like you want to go back home and then bring them for Chicago so that you could always, like, leave the door open.
00:45:20
So maybe it's just one more run with LeBron and then potentially could do that.
00:45:24
Yeah, but yeah, just it's hard to turn on money due to his hard.
00:45:28
I mean, look, I happen to Clay Thompson.
00:45:29
Play Thompson 20.
00:45:31
Cl immediately Tears Achilles out for two years like it's just such a shame.
00:45:35
You never It's hard to risk it.
00:45:37
What is his contract right now? Um oh, wait, no.
00:45:42
He does have a huge contract.
00:45:45
Five years. 189 million.
00:45:48
Klay Thompson.
00:45:49
He signed it before last year.
00:45:50
It looks like, Yeah.
00:45:52
So the problem with Klay Thompson dollars, like so he wasn't named to the all 13 last year.
00:45:57
Chris Middleton got it for over him because he wasn't named to that team.
00:46:01
He wasn't. He wasn't. It was before the super Bags.
00:46:03
So, like that cost him, like, $30 million because the media didn't vote for the 13.
00:46:07
I don't think a really a shame.
00:46:09
E don't I don't think Chris Middleton got all MBA.
00:46:14
Um, so I'm talking about the 2018.
00:46:18
19 talking 18.
00:46:20
19. Yeah, that's easy.
00:46:23
2018 19.
00:46:27
Chris Middleton is not on here either.
00:46:28
Uh well, like, Well, Clay didn't get 13 years.
00:46:32
Yeah, Someone got over and that's what I meant someone got.
00:46:35
Which is that Still sad, though.
00:46:36
Like it's still messed up that, like, because the media did a voting for the 13 like he lost all that money.
00:46:41
And then now you could play when you're off for two years.
00:46:44
So it's like, really, which I mean at the same time.
00:46:47
Um, he's a very, very, very rich man.
00:46:50
Um, he will have a career after basketball because he's a good person.
00:46:54
He's gonna get personality and he's got multiple ring.
00:46:56
So um, yeah, I kind of speaking of the Warriors like like what I expect from the Warriors now, Like they think they're done.
00:47:03
Do you think plays career over like, What? Do you see what the lawyers? Unfortunately, I dio, um, I would have loved to have seen this year.
00:47:14
I hate the Warriors.
00:47:17
Um, I like the regular fans, but I hate how ****y and arrogant their bandwagon fans are.
00:47:24
Uh, but I really want to see like a I feel like last year is gonna be the last year anyways, or this year was gonna be last year anyways, But like of, ah, still somewhat Prime Warriors versus Lakers match up.
00:47:36
Um, at least the regular season.
00:47:37
I think we've been great, but Curry is getting older.
00:47:41
Curry has symmetry problems, too.
00:47:44
I think it's time to start, you know, trading some small ass, uh, some small pieces for some trade picks down the road and say, you know, we realized we have, like, four years left.
00:47:57
Let's get some trade pieces gets, um you know, assets.
00:48:01
And you know, when we get there to get there.
00:48:05
Yeah.
00:48:06
I mean, like, yeah, I don't the worries here anymore.
00:48:08
I mean, actually, growing up as a kid, my family from Oakland, so actually a group.
00:48:12
I used to like the world, especially the warrior games, my grandpa and stuff like a kid.
00:48:16
And I remember watching Steph Curry's rookie year, and so I was a big fan of them, but yeah, as soon as they got, like, really good.
00:48:21
And there's a lot of bunch of family and friends.
00:48:23
Kind of just lost them.
00:48:24
Obviously been LeBron James, like in a roof team that's getting a LeBron for that.
00:48:30
So, yeah, I agree with you on that, but yeah, I don't see the words like, I think the Chinese probably over.
00:48:35
At this point, I mean, Draymond Green looks really bad.
00:48:38
Last year he was like nine and the All Star.
00:48:41
He was just all these play Hall of Fame.
00:48:43
Maybe more people talk about him all of fame.
00:48:45
I don't think he's a Hall of Fame, a ring or he did not look good without nothing playing.
00:48:50
Yeah, step is injury problems.
00:48:51
I mean, so you can't just rely on him either.
00:48:54
So yes, I mean, you could one act show of stuff and hopefully it's a big year.
00:49:00
Maybe you write me every few or maybe like you never know.
00:49:02
But just the act of the world run by over with.
00:49:06
I don't see it coming back because missing two whole years in your thirties like that's You can't do that like when it comes.
00:49:13
I probably make a role player like I don't see him being the same play that well, well, in one of the biggest things about clay that people a casual MBA fan might not understand is that he's a fantastic defender, one of the most with the league.
00:49:28
That's that's going to take out his his you know, first horizontal movement.
00:49:34
Defensively, it's gonna change everything.
00:49:36
His speed.
00:49:37
Yeah, that's gone.
00:49:41
He'll be a role player.
00:49:42
Steph Curry is 32.
00:49:44
He's not getting any younger.
00:49:45
Drummond's 30.
00:49:46
Klay Thompson's 30 Draymond green.
00:49:49
I don't think he ever should have been in the conversation for all of fame, I think, put him on any other team.
00:49:54
He's an above average player, but you know these guys, they're getting older.
00:49:58
They got some good young players out.
00:49:59
Um, so unfortunately, I think it's over.
00:50:03
But, you know, maybe you can have Stefan Draymond show you who could be the future of the team.
00:50:08
Who knows? Yeah.
00:50:09
I mean, like, they do still have big into the effigies wise announcer.
00:50:14
So they have to make other young pieces kind of make a complaint running still, but yeah, like, um, traded for Kelly uber.
00:50:20
Which kind of surprised me because there's so deep in the luxury tax that is costing them $80 million just for next year's, and I can't tell you break like that's how much technology attacks they are.
00:50:30
Nothing is kind of like 50 million, but it's costing 80 million.
00:50:33
They're so deep military attacks just like insane to me.
00:50:38
Well, on top of that, You know, you look at the West.
00:50:40
Um, you know, even saying the Clippers and the Rockets, they're going to drop out depending on how that all works out.
00:50:46
Maybe in the thunder.
00:50:48
You know, you still got Lakers, Nuggets, jazz, Mavs, blazers, Grizzlies Look, good, sons air better.
00:50:54
Um, you know, pelicans will be better.
00:50:57
Temperatures will be better, so they're still kind of teams ahead of them.
00:50:59
So, you know, if they do make the playoffs, um, there probably be a sad eight seed.
00:51:05
Um, especially when Wiggins can't shoot.
00:51:09
Yeah, so it's a shame, but I mean, yeah, the warriors dynasty, I think both were is probably over with not the same words.
00:51:16
And we always come to know in the past 67 years or so.
00:51:20
Mhm.
00:51:23
Okay, so that pretty much wraps up the MBA.
00:51:25
That took almost four hours.
00:51:27
20 go over a few like NFL topics, I guess.
00:51:30
Before relief.
00:51:33
Um, yeah.
00:51:34
So there's a big Thursday night game.
00:51:37
Um, it was Seahawks.
00:51:38
Cardinals C has won by seven.
00:51:42
So I mean, that kind of surprised me because, like, Carl's really rolling and stuff right now.
00:51:47
Yeah.
00:51:48
So the c.
00:51:49
I still want to talk to the league.
00:51:50
They still believe in them.
00:51:51
I mean, Russell wasn't had some rough games Nbp conversation anymore.
00:51:55
Commercially emerging star.
00:51:56
So what do you think of the Seahawks Cardinals? Like who think it just says more about this game? I don't think I think it's a bad look for both of them.
00:52:05
Um, Seahawks looked overrated.
00:52:08
Uh, Cardinals had calamari hurt and they were driving that would have tied it.
00:52:12
What this game tells me most.
00:52:14
Cliff Kingsbury is not going to win the Cardinals a championship.
00:52:17
He isn't, and I know it's super early, but, um, you know Kyler Murray was hurting.
00:52:22
We're driving down the field.
00:52:23
There were nickel and dime ing them, and I know you're watching.
00:52:25
At 1 30 left, they were getting 10 yards centered, centered centers.
00:52:29
Suddenly they get to the 27 with a minute left in two timeouts and they're going for the end zone specifically.
00:52:36
You know, they're not getting nickel and I'm not getting closer.
00:52:39
It just didn't make sense.
00:52:40
And, you know, couple that with the stupid field goal decision in overtime against the Seahawks.
00:52:47
This is the second game and he's one and one in games where he screwed up.
00:52:52
But this is the second game that it's happened, and I would start to be a little worried, but, yeah, Seahawks Russell Wilson.
00:52:59
Uh, I've been saying it. He's not it.
00:53:03
I mean, yeah, like I think we talked about it like last week.
00:53:06
Yeah.
00:53:07
Cleans birds like I don't think there was a job in the first place.
00:53:09
He was a losing record coach in college that he goes from like, a like a losing record in the big talk, too.
00:53:14
So it wasn't like a big, like big time like regarded there was like the SEC or big fan of the big 12 and like, yeah, no job right away.
00:53:27
That's very questionable.
00:53:28
My paying to just kind of just kind of handed to him on a silver platter.
00:53:32
So I don't think it's just down in the first place.
00:53:34
So, yes, I think he deserves all the screen in the world.
00:53:37
Yeah, I feel like the Colonel's a lot.
00:53:39
I mean, I felt they think that the best in the NFC West I still liked on the bus e.
00:53:44
I thought to see that for the longest time, but I don't know, like Russell was made a couple of questions stuff.
00:53:50
All these probably MVP anymore.
00:53:52
I mean, I mean questioning all year long.
00:53:53
I don't see it.
00:53:54
Five past levels at this point.
00:53:57
Yeah.
00:54:01
On top of that, the Cardinals offensive line had, like, 20 penalties.
00:54:04
If the offensive line to stop shooting themselves in the foot holding in the end zone would have been a completely different game and they weren't even fans there.
00:54:10
So yeah, exactly.
00:54:12
So need to shame.
00:54:15
But, um, yeah, I feel like I said the car was a lot.
00:54:18
I mean, I'm after we, too.
00:54:20
I said, Colin Murray dark MPP potentially.
00:54:22
I mean, I still like him a lot as a player.
00:54:24
E I mentioned to you on Sunday.
00:54:26
I'm pretty sure, like I think Colin Murray like looking and play like Like I seem to do like a lot of magical things at the same time, Like I don't see him stuff that on.
00:54:39
I don't see something.
00:54:40
He does that Rogers does that Murray can't do like I just I just don't see like I think he's not good of a player that got out of town second year player to me, they get all the ham, very public place and whatnot, really electrifying that he really how much fun, this family from the watch, everything that we could do it.
00:54:57
I could see how American dudes about the same so playing with the same kind of level of that young of age is really impressive.
00:55:04
I'm glad you brought this up because I have a 2020 quarterback efficiency draft or Excuse me graft through Week 10.
00:55:12
It includes passes and rushing place, which is big because we know Kyler Murray is a big Russia, so it doesn't take into account on, but it excludes penalties.
00:55:21
Eso like if there's a holding that's not against Tyler Marie, and it registers estimated points average added per play and success rate.
00:55:31
Um, unless the quarterbacks one and to the homes and Rogers and they're like this, the homes is First, let me list some other quarterbacks above Tyler Marie this year.
00:55:42
Josh Talent, back Prescott, Ryan Tannehill and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
00:55:49
No, I'm not saying that these quarterbacks are better than Cailan Murray, but Kyler Murray the best thing about him in his leg is his legs.
00:55:57
Better than any other quarterback.
00:56:02
And when we take his rushes into account better than any quarterback e don't know this season this season. E.
00:56:12
We take his Russian game into account, which is his biggest asset.
00:56:16
Mhm, and he's still lagging by a considerable amount below Josh Allen and Tannin Hill.
00:56:25
And I know it's not super fair because Canon Hills mask to do much and Allen's and an easy division.
00:56:34
But the difference between Rogers and Murray? I mean, I guess I can show it on the screen.
00:56:40
If you see, um, you know Rodgers and Mahomes air up there? Murray's in the middle, like right here by that black.
00:56:49
So there's a considerable difference between them and talking wrong, I think Hi, Lynne Murray is a fantastic quarterback.
00:56:58
Um, but, you know, like I texted you, I think comparing them is Apple's to oranges because Aaron Rodgers is what is the best quarterback of all time talent wise and Kyler Murray relies more on his legs, not a knock, but they just do two different things.
00:57:16
Well, he's just to hit the thing, though, just like like like yeah, guys it right now I agree with you if I was saying like, Yeah, I gotta consider age to There's only how very second year.
00:57:26
It's kind of like talking like a month ago. We're talking about mojo.
00:57:29
This is Roger. That was a better town.
00:57:31
We're all e mean, bullet ball, really young quarterbacks.
00:57:34
So it's like they still room to grow and potentially surpassed riders like in the future.
00:57:39
I mean, like, calm Murray.
00:57:40
What? He's 23 24 years old, and Rogers about 36 37 like that's a huge age gap.
00:57:46
So I mean, obviously, right now, like probably every disrespect, mostly like oh, like Murray, Irma Homes have a better career in Roger's. Not that respectful.
00:57:54
Like I'm gonna dismiss all those years of greatness and Rogers and put on display.
00:57:57
But I'm just saying, because we're in their age, thank you is really impressive.
00:58:02
Um, in waters that make him the league.
00:58:03
He didn't start playing right away.
00:58:04
I mean, you took him a few years to kind of started becoming stars.
00:58:08
So from Murray, do a digital age kind of come in and make kind of burst onto the scene in my home kind of do this in his 30 years of starter.
00:58:15
I mean, it's pretty impressive.
00:58:17
At the same time, though, we also take Rodgers age into effect.
00:58:20
He's 36.
00:58:21
He can't get out as quickly.
00:58:23
And let's also look at the the players they're playing with.
00:58:27
Aaron Rodgers has Davante, Adams and a whole lot of crap ever since these are got hurt.
00:58:33
Kyler Murray has a guy who is a Hall of Famer and Larry Fitzgerald, who has more tackles and drops.
00:58:39
He's got DeAndre Hopkins, who is easily cannot ever argue.
00:58:43
Not a top five wide receiver, probably top three wide receiver in the league.
00:58:49
You can argue him, Adams and Julio.
00:58:54
You could argue that however you want.
00:58:56
Um, I personally think Adams might be a good thing, just like she doesn't exist no more.
00:59:02
You start on the window.
00:59:04
Hey, he's had 11 targets in two years.
00:59:06
He came that has had a really good year to just he's not don't exist.
00:59:11
D.
00:59:12
K.
00:59:13
Metcalf has been quiet and he's not been as good as the day.
00:59:15
But that's not That's not the point.
00:59:16
You know. He's got these guys.
00:59:18
He's got a 65 tight end of Dan Arnold, who is not great, but he's good.
00:59:22
Um, he's guys. Yeah.
00:59:26
Shut up. Plan.
00:59:27
Uh, he's got Christian Kirk, Great slot receiver.
00:59:29
He's got a lot of weapons and he also has Kenyan Drake and Chase seven South backfield.
00:59:34
Granted, Aaron Rodgers is Erin Jones, but he also has a lot more weapons, and Aaron Rodgers is older, but he said he fell off.
00:59:42
But now, when he's doing, you know well, nobody's talking about the age, so you know, that's another thing.
00:59:47
Age is great for Murray, but age also works for Rogers, and you also gotta look at who's around him because Adams is great.
00:59:54
But, I mean, you could only do so much when your second receivers Marquis and he drops every other past.
01:00:02
Yeah, also, you're probably right, because the same time, like Armor Murray against Dallas, he was nine for 24.
01:00:07
Like passing.
01:00:09
Rogers never put a performance like that.
01:00:10
I mean, even his horrible game against Tampa Bay, like he's not gonna put forms like that, was just absolute pathetic by Connery's wait.
01:00:19
When Rogers has a bad game, it's because he's getting hit and there's somebody open and completely on him when he makes a bad pass, you know, against Tampa Bay completely on him.
01:00:30
But Murray Rogers never misses guys as often as Murray has when he has time.
01:00:36
When he has guys open.
01:00:37
So, you know, that's why I think he will be great.
01:00:40
But, you know, I think yeah, yeah.
01:00:43
I'm not saying, like, right now they have a point.
01:00:46
The future? You never know you could be involved because I like primary future better than, um, Lamar Jackson.
01:00:54
Personally, I think like I'm probably a better passer.
01:00:58
This is Mark Jackson playoff, then.
01:01:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:04
Uh huh.
01:01:08
Yes.
01:01:09
That's what wraps it for the show.
01:01:11
Anything you want to talk about real quick.
01:01:14
I think Packers Colts play 3. 25.
01:01:18
Um, and the Chiefs.
01:01:20
They play the Raiders at 7.
01:01:22
20.
01:01:23
The Raiders beating last out.
01:01:26
Yeah, it is week 11.
01:01:28
Um, in the NFL.
01:01:30
I think this will be my prediction.
01:01:32
My bold prediction is that this will be a week that the M V P race is likely decided.
01:01:38
Um, colts have the best defense in the lead.
01:01:41
If Aaron Rodgers doesn't show up, he's already a little legging behind.
01:01:46
If Aaron Rodgers doesn't show up, the M V p is basically my homes.
01:01:49
Unless Mahomes is terrible, But he won't.
01:01:52
I mean, we know that unless something crazy happens, um, And if my homes doesn't put up a great performance and or, you know, just looks pedestrian, um, in a dome against the Raiders defense, I think Rodgers takes the lead.
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I think this lead this game right here is gonna be the biggest indicator on the MVP.
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Because you know Russell Wilson? He already fell down.
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Kyler Murray fell down a little bit.
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So I think this is the week toe look at for M V P res.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that's a really good point, I would say, but yeah.
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I mean, I could see my whole having a big game.
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Community lost the radio earlier this year.
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If you find very motivates a really big performance somewhere last in the kind of I mean, I think he will sleep on the radio.
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I think it is a really good See.
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You mean don't sleep on them something.
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I think they could beat anyone in the chief on the all years to the Raiders.
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Yes.
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I mean, the race could be anyone, but yeah, So I think that would be more motivated to be ready because of what happened.
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E a big game. But yeah.
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I mean, Packers Supposedly a big, interesting matchup.
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Tennessee. How that plays out.
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Yeah, I'm picking Indianapolis.
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As much as I love the Packers, I'm you.
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Look, I've Packer fans.
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We have a gift.
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We have a gift.
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And that gift is when everybody else says, Oh, look at the Packers.
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They're seven.
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And to their first NFC, We look at this team and we say, Yeah, but the defense of ****.
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And so when you play good off, it's been the story since 2011 when they went 15 and one after winning the super on the defense of **** every single year.
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Since then, the defense has been completely overrated.
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I'm not gonna fall for it again.
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This defense is overrated.
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Um, the coals don't need to do much because the parents will have a tough time.
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Um, I'm calling now.
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The Packers, they're not going to get to the NFC championship game.
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And this game is going to show you just how how flawed this team still is.
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Good team loved to death.
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This is gonna be a wake up call for a lot of pack of mint.
01:04:02
Yeah. I mean, like, I'm a good point.
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I want to see the fact of Blue.
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I'm factor losing.
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I mean, that's fine by me, but at the same time, like so real quick, kind of bring it, bring it up.
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But he wrote a good point.
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How about it steals this year's Who is undefeated, But a lot of people start talking about some like you thinking, bleeding sailors, hype or anything.
01:04:21
I just a lot of nothing at all.
01:04:23
Beat the Giants by 10 week.
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Broncos by five.
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Texans by seven.
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Eagles by nine all week.
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Beat the Browns by 31.
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But you know it is the Browns.
01:04:34
That's good.
01:04:35
It tightens three.
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Ravens four, Cowboys five.
01:04:39
Um, that's all week.
01:04:41
Bengals 26 the Bangles their trash.
01:04:43
So, um, really, their only someone impressive one this season was the Browns on day should have lost to Dallas.
01:04:50
So I'm not buying it all.
01:04:53
I got to go in the homes.
01:04:54
I don't see a team that's gonna beat this team in the playoffs because that offense is too **** good.
01:04:58
Their defense is good enough? Yeah.
01:05:01
I mean, like all people cheese.
01:05:03
But this thing, I mean, Stairs will still make a run for the money.
01:05:05
I think so.
01:05:06
I mean, like, they could win that close games.
01:05:08
A very experienced My talents are fantastic.
01:05:10
Coach Ben Roethlisberger.
01:05:12
He's a very experienced quarterback, that he knows what he's doing.
01:05:15
And he was pretty good for Steelers.
01:05:17
Your kids from the defense.
01:05:18
I mean, it would be, but you never could sleep on them.
01:05:21
I mean, I said don't kind of mouth like I wanted to trash, but I think it made the run for the cheese money.
01:05:28
I would like to say before I forget, I called the Dolphins my dark horse.
01:05:36
They have won five straight since losing the Seahawks.
01:05:38
They're six and three and their next three games or Broncos Jets Bangles.
01:05:44
Um, they're more right now.
01:05:48
Hey, watch out for Miami to they're gonna win the They're gonna win the Super Bowl, so you know. Okay.
01:05:58
Alright.
01:05:59
So that wraps her show.
01:06:00
Um, I've seen a reasonable doubt.
01:06:02
Yeah, he'll tweet us.
01:06:03
Any questions they will talk about on this show? Yeah, I'm a CS four more six.
01:06:07
And Trevor that you're really into every goodnight.
01:06:10
Y'all have a go on
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Reasonable Doubt Episode 15: NBA Draft Recap/NBA Free Agency

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Chris Moore @seemore6

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and we are alive.
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Good evening.
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Everyone s 15.
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Reasonable doubt.
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I'm Chris.
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This Trevor here feel free to get out of the chat.
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Just mentions anything. Three.
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ETA's Trevor Trevor Lane to I'm I seeing this for more. Six.
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Yeah, it's a big topics.
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A lot of moving around MBA, um, talk some NFL coming out.
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So we kind of were on NBA draft.
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What? Not much.
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Just a little bit.
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A little bit of possible of the NFL.
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Um, Future wants to talk to a lot about different stuff because Buck's China make moves.
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We're making moves.
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I don't know what's going on there completely.
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I don't think you do either.
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Um, yeah.
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I just want to get started.
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You want to say anything first, or, um yeah, Adrian was dubrowski.
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Uh, never.
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Please. Never stepped foot in Milwaukee.
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Um, this isn't a threat or anything.
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We just don't want you in Milwaukee.
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Um, you screwed up the trade.
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Um, you just screwed it all up, you know? Yeah.
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You seemingly don't care.
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Um, and for all the teams that cried tampering, um, interesting that you went out and tampered about two days later.
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Um, nothing is probably gonna come to this investigation, but it's still pretty sad, this investigation, Um, especially with all the things that other teams have done.
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But you know what? This stuff happens.
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Um, it sucks.
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Obviously, I think the bucks did tamper to Well, no, they didn't tamper.
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Actually, they were just discussing trades, But every team tampers.
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So, you know, I'm not saying the bucks are perfect.
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I'm not saying the books.
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Um, you know, shouldn't be looked at it all.
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I'm not saying that everybody involved should be fired, but, um, this is pretty ridiculous.
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So MBA, uh, cut off, I guess.
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Hop. Just hop off.
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Yeah, there's a kind of common of that.
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I mean, I think the whole temporal was done in the first place.
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Like I'm not a big fan of it.
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There's like, who cares? Because, you know, they're still gonna talk anyway.
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Especially most players.
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Like, if you're like players behind close door is gonna be talking and kind of recruiting whatnot.
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I think it's the Demerol in general, and I don't think the bucks, because I don't think they tampered.
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I mean, even if so, like, they didn't Do you think it was a lot of things don't already do.
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It looks like you said so, Yeah, it's kind of weird that, like they pick random teams that they call for tampering.
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I don't get why per se just it doesn't really make sense why they really do that.
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It seems too big.
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They always do the teams that, like we're about to become like one of the top teams you're looking at on the kind of stacked that.
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That's kind of what they call it.
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It seems like, Yeah, I'd rather just be more consistent.
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I feel like I feel like every time there's a team that there's really good, try to make a big move.
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It kind of just like trying to get involved over the tampering.
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Just, I don't know, just be consistent, What, they're going to call that something every time.
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The top team doing well.
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On top of that, it's like what the NBA do it like the fact that people can call out other teams.
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It's like grade school like she did teacher.
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She did this.
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It's like shut the **** up, like if that be wants investigated, that should do it themselves.
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But it shouldn't be where teams can call on other teams because that just zip.
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And that's just not a good look in general.
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Yeah, because I mean, like, just isn't but going off the bucks, so I don't think they come out of it.
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I don't think it'll be anything too bad.
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I mean, at worst would probably be like a fine.
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Usually.
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What happens in these cases? Nothing, really.
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I don't want any pics or anything.
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It wasn't kind of big time camper.
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It wasn't like that bad or anything.
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That's like, next level.
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If I just may be a find out worse.
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Like maybe just e think you could make so many fans.
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If you do get fined on Twitter, send the bill to Adrian.
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Whoa, Generosity.
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It would be the funniest, best thing of all time.
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Please do it.
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Yeah, it's kind of weird that he reported that earlier saying can usually use on top of things usually like, Yeah.
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I mean, like you pointed out to me yesterday.
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I mean, he was the only major report the report of those news because all the other big MB inside none of no one from Fox support of it.
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No one from the athletic reported it was just more.
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Maybe you just make a little too early because kind of strange.
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You know, the important thing is people were talking about it, but they said pursuing instead of landing, which in tampering and in trades is a big difference.
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So I know we talked about that, but just in case, uh, you know, nobody else may or may not have known about that shut out toe.
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Yeah, Wording is important, I guess.
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Shout out toe devils, Adam for the thumbs up.
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We appreciate it.
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You have to move it on.
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So speaking of the bucks, I mean, they made a big major trade earlier in the week.
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They traded for Drew holiday.
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So a lot of people said that was when they get big time move, they traded, um, they had your holiday saying for George Hill And who's the other player? It was there, but Eric Blood Eric Bledsoe.
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So anything that moved for the bucks of adding your holiday for me, I think the bucks should, like, get on the pelicans to push it through because it hasn't gone through yet.
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And it seems like the pelicans air adding more and more teams to it.
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And I don't like it at all as a box fan.
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And if I'm the box I'm saying, OK, push this through you know, because if it's not benefiting you, toe, push this back, you know, to not push it through what's you know, what's the benefit of just sitting around? You know, I'm saying, like, get this trade done before anything else happens.
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You've seen some crazy things happen.
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Obviously, it's different than free agency when you know, the underdog got locked in his own house.
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Um, that members, obviously it's different, but like crazy things have happened.
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So, like, get this through Because if you're you know, if you're just waiting on this and they're just like, Oh, you want to jump in none of us at that dist.
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Get that through.
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Get this trade through because you already lost booked on you lose Drew holiday, too.
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I mean, you already kind of looked in that you can't lose this trade to you got to get this thing done like now, don't waste time.
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Don't let anything else possible happen with this.
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Get this done.
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Yeah, so I mean, like, I'm pretty sure the bucks are installers by the pelicans because these pelicans Okay, See, they're really stacking the deck for first round picks.
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Like there is collecting them like crazy.
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But that's the thing.
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Is the pelicans party just waiting.
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Not trying to get like, another person and try to get into a third team involved.
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Trying to get another pick is probably waiting because, yeah, the next six years is gonna be all just pelicans and thunder draft.
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It seems like no other team because, I mean the thunder.
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They got three more picks this morning.
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Three more first round picks.
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So they have 21 1st round picks the next six years, like 21 1st round.
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That's insane.
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Like, Wow.
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So, like, the thunder just really stacked with her pics and delicate, but, you know, pics to like, movies they're making.
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So it's probably the way to know.
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Yeah, well, and the big thing, too, is, you know, they have all these pics and don't get me wrong.
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Obviously, they're gonna hit on some because you have that many picks you're gonna hit on at least one you Maybe you don't always have to actively try to miss to not hit.
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But, you know, the interesting thing is, you know, these pics might not be top of the draft and don't get me wrong.
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I don't think it's a bad deal.
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It all to stack first round picks.
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But this isn't like the NFL.
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We don't know what the draft class is gonna look like.
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Heck, even next year, we have a slight idea, but we don't really know.
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So over the six years, obviously, it's a long span.
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But you know, we saw how bad this draft waas.
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You know what if four years down the line, it's even were searched? Justus bad.
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Those draft picks don't mean a lot.
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So, um, it's obviously great to stack first round picks.
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As many as you can, but no for all the people saying Okay, CEO New Orleans, they're the future.
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Let's pump the brakes a little bit because, you know these are also way in advance, like one of the bucks fixes like 2026.
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Six years from now, pelicans might be shipping that out to get another player because they're contender or they could be trained it to somebody else.
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You know, you just don't know so um, it's great.
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But let Z for all those saying all the thunder, The pelican.
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Let's let's pump the brakes a little bit.
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In my opinion, yeah, I told you, you're staying there.
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But like I will say, Um, yeah, so in the MBA, like I'm not NFL all personal because And I was super, super valuable.
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But MBA is pretty much lotteries, super valuable.
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I've had the lottery like I mean, you could still get many services starters and, like, you could be a start playing later in the first round.
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But usually it's not a high chance of that.
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So you needed a lot of you really want to try to get at the same time, like since you're done on the road like the Clippers, like they could be an awful team in six years.
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Or like any other teams, they got pics from kind of like they have a lot of Houston's picks. E.
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I mean, the rockets there, If they get rid of Harden and Westbrook, they're gonna be awful.
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So that's gonna be like potentially top three, top to maybe number one pig at the same time like, yeah, so right now it might seem like.
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Okay, maybe late in the first round, but six years and then down the road, that used to be fully differently.
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So yeah, I think that that seems to it could be all like, maybe they three of the five top 55 picks one year or something that you never know.
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So yeah, not not trying to get to off topic.
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But, you know, you brought up Houston.
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I think that's why you know we'll go into all this stuff later, but I think that's why Houston doesn't want to move Russ or hardened because they know if they do and they suck, they better get better.
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Because, yeah, it's all going to the thunder.
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Yeah, at the same time.
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It's gonna be tough, though, because if you don't ship these guys, let's say you know, heaven forbid Russell Westbrook tears a C l.
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Now your return is even worse.
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So you know, we'll see how this all plays out.
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Everything is obviously always moving, and this free agency period and trade deadline has not disappointed so far.
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So I mean, yeah, training, cancer, December 1st.
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That's 10 days from right now.
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So they're they're trying to just wrap it up.
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Kind of predicted it.
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Yeah, kind of growing up in Houston to Yeah, because they're in a really bad spot because they can't really build because they have no pics to rebuild because they gave it all away and trades trying to, like, go all in on this team is currently constructed it.
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So it's just gonna be, like car from and get better.
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And also like like, there are big market.
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But reagents only go to, like, the Texas team.
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They don't go to Dallas and Houston.
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I don't really know why.
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I mean, no state income tax, either.
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Like, you think it be a more of a big kind of market players want to go to, but they usually struggle to get free agents, too.
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So it'll be hard from the kind of bounced back and no Durham or either, so, yeah, for sure.
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Um, you know, and you look at this Houston Rockets roster right now, I don't really know what they're doing.
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I mean, you get a lot of teams that I don't really know what you're doing.
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Obviously, the rockets are one.
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Um, you know, Charlotte Hornets are a whole another problem, But, um, it's gonna be interesting, because I'd assume for a lot of teams, some of these there's still a lot of moving pieces at play because a lot of these guys a lot of these teams, are horrible.
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Either these g m's are just going have lost their complete minds or we still have a lot of moves left to see.
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Yeah, I mean, like, so kind of going out with that kind of trip, The next question in the ass.
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So what do you think is the most surprising movie? Thinks so far in the great this free agency period or trade period? Um, that's tough.
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I would have to probably say, um, the Hornets, obviously for Gordon Hayward.
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Um oh, my God.
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Get into that E moving all they gave $120 million.
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It doesn't make sense.
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And all the one that doesn't make sense is, um, Christian would to the Rockets.
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I love him.
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I think he's a great player.
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He was fantastic with the bucks when they dropped him so that they get Meritage.
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I was ****ed.
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I loved Christian, wouldn't everything.
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I thought he was your hey, great for the pelicans when he was there.
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He was great for the Rockets when he was there, but I just don't understand because his team has Tyson Chandler.
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Still, you know, they traded for Covington, which would make you see the three and D.
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But, you know, they just traded for a couple of guys to make it just a three point shooting. Small team.
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So you have a different GM.
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But why are you getting not only Tyson Chandler, but also Christian? Would I feel like you were going to do anything? Get one.
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Maybe not both.
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It seems silly to give up on it now. Already.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I kind of agree.
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That was kind of like a weird move.
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Some people Houston doing in general, Just Houston.
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Just very weird spot.
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Like I mean, are they gonna try to just trade, like, Parted and Ross to me? Like you betrayed them? Like you can't get first round picks back.
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So there's I mean, place.
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That could be a start there to be.
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Think about it.
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Yeah, because I mean, I don't see the direction it can go because I don't think hard and Rusk and win the championship I don't see them winning, especially in the West.
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I don't see them pulling through and winning it.
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So I think that's why the only way out to go.
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I'll say so, Yeah.
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And then, like for some reason, yeah, like, I don't know why you can't get creative to come to Houston.
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Just I don't know why.
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It means a big market.
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You think it could, but they just can't.
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Yeah, going We should probably go into a Charlotte Hornets next.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So Charlotte Hornets yesterday signed going to Hayward Thio.
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Probably close to a mascot.
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Four years, 120 million.
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And yeah, so they already have a big basket at the Nick Batum.
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He had a big contract.
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Then he just dropped Lemelle a ball to so waiting.
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This team's going, maybe building around Ball and Hayward and the monster Grammy.
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Think Or what do you think, Michael Jordan doing types to do this and I believe with my whole heart.
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Michael Jordan is the Michael Jordan of bad gm's.
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He's horrible.
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Um, Gordon Hayward.
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30 year.
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Nicolas Batum, $27 million a year.
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He's done nothing since, like 2014, Terry Rozier had one great playoff series against Bledsoe, who now we know it's because blood so sucks in the playoffs.
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Not because of Terry Rozier, 18.
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9 million Cody's Zeller.
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15.
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5 million Bismack Biyombo, 17 million And now he goes out and he drafts Lemelle, Oh, Ball three and Lemelle a ball is the ****y ist most arrogant player.
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He's not ready, and he's going to divide this locker room.
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So not only do you have basically all your money tied up, you have, you know, all due respect, but you have a giant ******* that you just drafted.
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I don't understand what he's doing.
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I get Lem L.
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A.
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Was the best available.
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What we talked about it best, best available doesn't mean anything if he's not a good fit.
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You know, I drafted Vernon Carey to start the second round.
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That was a little early.
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And then Grant earlier point guard from Charleston.
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Um, I just I just have no clue what they're trying to do here.
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This team is horrible, absolutely horrible.
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Do you see that? That's going to make it look like a playoff run or anything.
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You think you know on the baby.
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I mean, I have no clue.
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I'd have to look at the standings, which I got right here.
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Um, real quick.
00:16:12
I think one of the biggest moves people need to understand is Jae Crowder leaving Miami.
00:16:17
I think that's gonna have a little better implications of people think I'm not even wrong.
00:16:22
I am not at all saying that the bucks are better in the heat now.
00:16:26
There's still so much stuff that has to be worked out.
00:16:28
But, you know, Eric Spoelstra did say, and he was right.
00:16:31
This Miami Buck series was a lot closer than for one dogging wrong.
00:16:35
Buck should not have won the Siri's.
00:16:36
I'm not saying that, but they won Game one by 11 that I was helped a lot by free throws.
00:16:42
Game two. They had a massive comeback.
00:16:44
One by two Game three Massive Come back again one by 15, Game four.
00:16:49
They lost Game five.
00:16:51
They won a close game without Yana.
00:16:52
So we're never gonna win that take out Jae Crowder bucks.
00:16:56
I can see them stretching this this Siris in particular to six or seven.
00:17:02
Um, I don't again.
00:17:03
I don't think they would have won, but you know, it's things can change.
00:17:09
Things can definitely change.
00:17:10
So look out for that.
00:17:11
But, you know, back to the point in the playoffs, I I don't see Charlotte making it.
00:17:18
Um, there were 10 games behind Orlando.
00:17:22
Um, I just don't see it.
00:17:25
I don't see a team that they're going to jump out of Orlando.
00:17:29
Brooklyn's obviously better. Philly.
00:17:31
Miami, Indiana, Boston, Toronto, Milwaukee.
00:17:34
I don't see a team.
00:17:35
They're going to jump unless Indiana loses. Oladipo.
00:17:39
Yeah, for me.
00:17:40
I would agree here.
00:17:41
I mean, unless the mill apologist goes crazy.
00:17:42
Cruz is wrong.
00:17:43
He's like one of the top of the league or something.
00:17:45
Hey, would like comes back to All star form, which I doubt this book.
00:17:49
I mean, he's older now and like he's still, it's never come from the horrific injury that he had.
00:17:54
So, yes, I don't see it happening.
00:17:56
I think it's a very weird teams.
00:17:58
I mean, Jordan, just like you said, like he's always making really questionable moves and whatnot.
00:18:04
So I really like about 10 years ago now, they had a really strong team going through Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, and they were like a kind of up and coming team and he blew it up.
00:18:13
He said, No, That's not good enough.
00:18:14
Remember, I was so massive.
00:18:16
That seems like they played really hard.
00:18:18
They felt really well together.
00:18:19
He blew it up.
00:18:20
You know? I want to get better.
00:18:22
We haven't recovered since.
00:18:23
I don't think they ever since they haven't just recovered to keep this.
00:18:27
He wanted, like, the worst teams in the league.
00:18:29
Obviously the Jordan favorite move of drafting Kwamie Brown.
00:18:33
I mean, that was awful.
00:18:35
Pick.
00:18:36
He ended being absolute total bus.
00:18:38
Yeah, he has in general, just makes a lot of questionable move.
00:18:41
This kind just adds to it, but the only way you can kind of make up for it with Melo Barley shows.
00:18:46
That would be what, One of the star players in the league, which I don't see happening because his defense is atrocious.
00:18:52
He's not very strong.
00:18:53
I mean, he's not very big in general.
00:18:55
I mean, there was so much as much as you.
00:18:57
We talked to that.
00:18:58
Lots of So I just don't see it happening going on top of that, you know, Charlotte was not only 10 games behind Orlando, they're 23 42.
00:19:10
They were ninth in the East, but their point differential per game was fourth worst in the N B A.
00:19:16
The only teams that were worst.
00:19:17
We're Golden State Atlanta in Cleveland, and they lost every game by an average of 6.
00:19:23
7 points.
00:19:25
Knicks were 6.5.
00:19:27
So even though you know it was 23 42 this team was worse than should have been worse than that.
00:19:39
Yeah. I mean, I agree.
00:19:40
So I mean, I mean, I'm rooting for Jordan.
00:19:43
I mean, obviously, like I wanted to be a good owner.
00:19:46
I mean, obviously, he's the only black tolerant Louis.
00:19:48
I root for success.
00:19:49
He's a former players.
00:19:50
Here's his unique perspective.
00:19:52
You think you'd be better, but we hope it works out, but I just don't see it happening.
00:19:58
Yeah, but back to the most surprising move, I would say no surprising move to me would probably be.
00:20:05
I was surprised.
00:20:06
Mantra is how we're going to the Lakers.
00:20:07
I didn't expect that one.
00:20:08
No one is really surprised that he went.
00:20:10
I mean, like he's hated the Lakers throughout the year, gives a big, great guy for the Clippers.
00:20:14
He went to the rival, but I just wanted surprised.
00:20:19
Yeah, real quick shoutout diesel for the tip.
00:20:23
We appreciate you, um and you know, going back Thio Montrose.
00:20:28
Harold, It kind of surprised me at first, but now that I'm thinking about it out loud, I guess it kind of makes sense.
00:20:36
Heralds always been an absolute dog.
00:20:38
He's a fierce competitors.
00:20:39
He just wants toe win.
00:20:41
He'll do everything he does the dirty stuff.
00:20:44
And now he was in a situation where CO I and Paul George or getting a ton of preferential treatment.
00:20:51
Um co.
00:20:53
I showed up the most out of those two, which says a lot because he really didn't do much either.
00:20:59
And now I can see my trust.
00:21:01
So it's probably screw this.
00:21:03
I don't want to deal with this, you know, he's a no B s type guy.
00:21:06
So, you know, go to a team where you know, he got guys like LeBron and a D that have the same exact mentality.
00:21:14
You know, I guess all things considered, it makes sense.
00:21:17
And although I hate it as a move, because it just makes that team better, I think at the end of the day.
00:21:24
Um, you know, if I was at the Clippers, I don't want to get the hell out, too.
00:21:30
Yeah.
00:21:31
I mean, like, I remember like Stephen, a spin from ESPN.
00:21:33
He reported that Harold really question like Paul George, like focus and like, effort in times So he thought, like George got, like, got too carried away with the L A lifestyle and stuff that was too cool and stuff at times and quiet skip practices and be late for the team planes and team Busses and whatnot.
00:21:50
So you probably got annoyed by that.
00:21:52
I mean, like he said, he's a dog like you.
00:21:54
He's all about basketball.
00:21:56
She's about grit and grind.
00:21:57
He said he took a Jimmy Butler kind of personalities, so he probably didn't like He's like, Here's like that.
00:22:02
Fighting really ticked him off.
00:22:03
So highlight figured to leave, and he's figured go to the Lakers because they're obviously focused on when they just sort of rain defending champions.
00:22:11
And then, obviously, I mean, if you're a Clipper player, I mean, you have to move or anything, literally just stay in the same house, the move, or any idea, family or your stay in the same place you see Marina to and everything.
00:22:23
So you're right there.
00:22:24
So that literally changes just different uniforms.
00:22:28
Different.
00:22:30
Boss, this I'm actually really excited because I think both you and me going into this past season both were saying outwardly, this Clippers team is actually not going to be that good.
00:22:42
And even after they beat the Lakers, I think twice we were both still saying they're not that good.
00:22:49
They get smacked at the box. Somebody says the flu.
00:22:52
We're still saying that they're not that good.
00:22:54
Now they just the size of things.
00:22:56
That's the big thing in the chemistry.
00:22:59
Beverly's 32 joking Noah isn't gonna be much. 35.
00:23:03
You know Lou Wills, 33.
00:23:05
They got Paul George Kawhi Leonard.
00:23:07
That hasn't solved itself completely.
00:23:10
New coach.
00:23:11
I cannot wait because I've been saying this team would this would happen.
00:23:16
I don't think this quick, but this team is about to hit a really, really low point, and I think this seems going toe below up.
00:23:24
I think this this could possibly be a worse disaster even than Brooklyn.
00:23:30
Um, because you lose a guy like Harold.
00:23:33
He's a glue guy.
00:23:34
I mean, and I have to tell you that, you know.
00:23:36
So, yeah, I would be very, very worried from a Clippers fan.
00:23:42
Although, if you're a Clippers fan, um, well, half of them are most likely people jumping on the bandwagon, but for the rial l A Clipper fans, I'm sorry, but it's not looking good.
00:23:54
I mean, yeah, I kind of go at that point.
00:23:56
You know, I don't know what the Clippers do from here.
00:23:58
I mean, like, next summer, like Paul Jordan acquired both free agency could get rid of one of them and let them walk.
00:24:04
Or maybe move like a Paul George or something.
00:24:07
But yeah, I just feel like they've been very quiet so far.
00:24:10
Of the creative security.
00:24:11
They're the only team like you haven't seen them make any kind of big moves or anything.
00:24:14
Okay, so the traded what Landes shaman for, like, would they get again? See, I gotta remember it wasn't like that big of a move.
00:24:22
A is a very, very, very good backup.
00:24:26
They got Luke Kennard, but Luke Kennard? Yeah, the traditional conard.
00:24:30
I mean, like a poke. A shooter.
00:24:33
I mean, but the same time, like obviously that make any any kind of big time lose or anything.
00:24:37
So they've been very quiet and they lost out on Rondo two.
00:24:41
They were going to Rhonda really hard and, you know, starting from the Hawks, which that surprised me, too, because you only making seven million a year.
00:24:48
So like he's not making that much money from the Hawks.
00:24:50
So he probably didn't want to play for the Clippers.
00:24:52
You probably just sperm them said no.
00:24:54
Good.
00:24:55
Wow, that really surprised me to Is the Clippers have been They haven't done any kind of moves.
00:24:59
I don't know where they even go from here.
00:25:02
Honestly, I don't think it's crazy to say, Just blow it up.
00:25:08
Marcus Morris could be gone this year to he's a free agent.
00:25:12
I didn't really notice that with all their caps, with all their cap holds right now, they have 23 million in luxury cap.
00:25:22
But in practical cap there a million four over.
00:25:27
So you can't make moves.
00:25:29
This team obviously isn't gonna win, especially when you lose Harold.
00:25:34
I would put the nuggets pest.
00:25:35
Um, another year.
00:25:36
Luca, I know you're Luca Fan.
00:25:38
I'm a Dallas and I would put Dallas prisoners back.
00:25:41
Thio back? Yeah.
00:25:43
I mean, you've got a whole e want to beat the Clippers and particles was healthy last year.
00:25:48
You want to play? Yeah.
00:25:49
You got a whole new pelicans team another year? Um, Minnesota obviously was 19 and 45 but this team could be a challenge, depending on how they play.
00:25:59
A lot of teams that can beat this team. Utah.
00:26:02
Um, if I'm the Clippers, there's no way you're winning the title.
00:26:07
Even if somehow you get out of the West, somebody is going to beat you from the east.
00:26:11
Um, I mean, they lost the bucks twice last year and the bucks got better.
00:26:16
Arguably.
00:26:17
So I said, blow it up.
00:26:18
To be honest, it sounds stupid, but, um, I'd much rather if I was a Clippers fan, have a lot of picks and have a future than No, I'm not gonna win the title and have both guys leave for free.
00:26:32
That's the problem.
00:26:33
They don't have picks.
00:26:34
They got rid of five first rounders from Paul George.
00:26:35
I mean, they gave hall for him.
00:26:37
So at the same time, like they don't have a lot of assets.
00:26:40
So at the same time, like he said, blow it up like, Do you want to get rid of both Hawaiian, Paul, George and keep one of the other like, What do you think? I think you have to trade him for draft picks.
00:26:50
I don't think you have an option.
00:26:52
Um, they said the Clippers franchise that, like they've been known to be horrible, so, like at the same time, like there's be right back to where they're supposed to use in the ba*****t of Los Angeles.
00:27:02
Forget about them.
00:27:03
So you really wanna go in the direction of the Clippers? That's just kind of hard because we don't know the 2030 years of being bad.
00:27:10
I mean, I think you have Thio.
00:27:13
They don't have one in 2021.
00:27:17
The only draft picks, the only first round draft.
00:27:19
Pick this if I'm if I'm reading this right, and I think I am the next first round draft pick they have is 2027 it's their own.
00:27:31
Exactly.
00:27:32
Yeah.
00:27:33
They got rid of all because of Paul.
00:27:35
George. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, you have to blow it up.
00:27:37
You absolutely have to blow it up, and it's crazy to say this, but if they leave, this team is gonna be really bad and I don't care.
00:27:46
How will you draft? You have to find some Krazy Jim's some crazy deep drafts to be ableto even get out of the cellar with second round picks.
00:27:55
Yeah, I mean the same time.
00:27:58
Like we're just talking like you said, like, um, because of them blowing it up.
00:28:03
But you know who gets all those picks up? Oklahoma City.
00:28:05
So we started the show.
00:28:06
So we started to get all those pics then, because really, really valuable.
00:28:12
You know, if your Oklahoma City, I mean, do you, uh, it would be interesting to see.
00:28:20
I hope it won't have, but it would be hilarious if Okay, see, offered them like two of their first round draft picks back for Kawhi Leonard.
00:28:29
Like if he signs with, um like just to spite them because they have nowhere to go.
00:28:34
I don't think anybody is going to give first for co I seeing how he is the leader there.
00:28:39
Not going to get first for Paul George because he has been garbage.
00:28:43
I mean, a shot that hit the side of the backboard.
00:28:45
I could do that.
00:28:47
I could do that 20 times out of 20.
00:28:50
Like this is bad.
00:28:55
Yeah.
00:28:56
I mean, it's not a good look at the same time.
00:28:57
Yeah, just we both question this team from the very start.
00:29:01
I mean, I'm pretty good back in December 2000 Lakers heat final, and I got it exactly right at the same time.
00:29:07
Just Yeah, I mean, then they're they've been very quiet.
00:29:10
It's creation, period.
00:29:11
So I just don't know like, what they're gonna do from here, because, yeah, the guy knew because he got Ty Lue there.
00:29:16
I mean, Kelly was down.
00:29:17
He was on a bunch of last year, so it would be that big of a change.
00:29:20
I personally don't think so.
00:29:22
I mean, like, he was still, like around.
00:29:24
So it's not because of a brand new guy like brand new voice.
00:29:27
I don't think that's good enough either.
00:29:29
Well, and another problem is, who do you trade? Either of them, too? Nobody's going to take y in the East.
00:29:35
The one team maybe would be Philly or Brooklyn, but I don't think he fits in with those players personality wise.
00:29:42
Um, in the West, all these teams air loaded.
00:29:46
I mean, maybe the rockets, But again, personality rise.
00:29:49
I don't see that working.
00:29:52
And the Rockets don't have any picks to trade for him.
00:29:54
So for both him and George, I mean, the only way I can see Georgia even is if somebody gives you, like nothing for him because he's almost worthless at 30 year.
00:30:05
Yeah, So you have to kind of bring it back, Thio.
00:30:08
I mean, both Grady's next summer.
00:30:09
Somebody, if you can't trade any, would always just let him go on just to change.
00:30:12
Take this cap space.
00:30:13
I guess you always do that.
00:30:15
Being kept space for L A team like you're still l a.
00:30:18
People still don't want to come to you and Steve bombs air Fantastic.
00:30:21
Older. I mean, he's very energetic.
00:30:23
He's very player friendly.
00:30:25
So players who would want to complain for him I mean, I want to complain for him.
00:30:28
He's so, like, energetic.
00:30:29
And he's like a great boss, like he's like, amazing on the sideline.
00:30:33
Remember him in a bubble.
00:30:34
He's just like he's like a cheerleader pretty much the same time they like they will be there.
00:30:38
Attract guys were Los Angeles big market and like those the owners.
00:30:42
So so, yeah, maybe just you can always let him go to.
00:30:47
Yeah, And I mean now, speaking of it, the only team that would trade for either one would maybe Boston with losing Hayward.
00:30:54
They have the space for it.
00:30:55
But, you know, I'm glad you brought up Palmer because I love him.
00:30:58
I feel like if any, like, really big fan ever won the lottery and bought a team, they would be Steve Balmer.
00:31:05
Like he's I love seeing him.
00:31:07
And, like Mark Cuban because they're like a regular fans owned a team instead of you always ****es me off.
00:31:13
You get some old, like, white guy or girl? Yeah.
00:31:19
It's just like sitting there like, Oh, I'm here.
00:31:22
This is my team.
00:31:24
Like, no, Like you own it, MBA franchise, like, get hyped like, Come on.
00:31:29
So I wish him the best.
00:31:31
Because I love him is an owner, but it's not looking good.
00:31:35
And they have to spend money on a stadium to I forgot about this.
00:31:39
Yeah, for an arena just got approved, so yeah, I gotta bring arena come in, like, three years? Yeah.
00:31:46
Who's gonna Who's gonna have the most wins there in the next three years After CO I and Paul George, the Lakers and the Clippers? I think it might actually be the Lakers.
00:31:59
Yeah, I would say so.
00:32:02
Which is not sad, but yeah.
00:32:05
I mean, I wish bombing the best to, but yeah, still a lot of rules to be made in general around the league, which is I mean, yeah, one that kind of hurt.
00:32:19
Me, too, is like Dwight Howard left Lakers and Bradley.
00:32:23
And we lost Rondo to Didn't really affect the Lakers in any sense.
00:32:26
Or do you think I'm adding Harold? Problem is good enough to kind of, like, offset that, um, had the dentist or two to on a train, remember? Yeah, I don't I don't think it hurts him at all.
00:32:39
Um, yeah.
00:32:40
Wes Matthews to your guy? Yeah.
00:32:42
Wes.
00:32:43
Wes Matthews.
00:32:44
I love from what I've been hearing not only seen stuff come up during the season, but also from, you know, the bubble.
00:32:53
Um, Wes Matthews is leaving because Bud ****ed him off too much.
00:33:00
Um, if you're watching, if you follow me on Twitter.
00:33:03
The if you just listen to me talk ever but was absolutely atrocious in the playoffs, arguably should have been fired. He looked horrible.
00:33:12
Um, his rotations were terrible.
00:33:15
West, Matthew's best defender.
00:33:16
I've said it since the start.
00:33:19
West Matthews is the best defender.
00:33:20
Not may be honest or broke on the Bucks team, and he didn't give a minutes in the playoffs.
00:33:25
And it makes sense to because, you know, West Matthews is very strong.
00:33:29
Wisconsin roots.
00:33:30
His dad went to Wisconsin, he went to Marquette.
00:33:33
His family's been there a lot, and he goes to the Lakers for an extra, like, maybe million dollars.
00:33:41
You know, like don't like the Bucks are great contender, arguably top two in the East.
00:33:48
So it doesn't really get you that much more ring chasing wise.
00:33:52
Money wise, he's made his money.
00:33:55
Um, he's a great asset.
00:33:57
He's a great defender.
00:33:58
He locked on quiet multiple times last year.
00:34:01
Um, you know, mantra is Harold Dennis shrewder at the very worst.
00:34:06
This team is a push.
00:34:09
Mhm.
00:34:10
Yeah, so, like, I mean I mean, I like the way my hard luck because, like, he tweeted, he was staying and they announced he's going toe building.
00:34:16
Like, what the heck is going on there? Every Bradley, Obviously, I didn't like, even if he didn't go to the bubble.
00:34:22
So I I don't think you shouldn't get a ring.
00:34:24
I was like, No, because I was, like, a different season.
00:34:27
So he was in part, any of it.
00:34:28
And now he's leaving to I was like, No, he didn't get a ring it magic eso Yeah, that's kinda allegedly I don't get that one in Miami.
00:34:36
I mean, that kind of makes up for doing with Jae crowder.
00:34:39
Gets to you in Miami.
00:34:41
Yeah.
00:34:42
You don't mind me? Yeah, he agreed to it today, so yeah, I mean, that kind of helps out for them with Jae Crowder, too.
00:34:50
And then Rondo mean like we have prepared for that for him to go.
00:34:53
We were kind of ready for him to go the same time, like it's still gonna hurt a little bit.
00:34:57
But I think that's really will help, because just like a little bit, I was glad Ron sitting on top.
00:35:04
Yeah.
00:35:05
Yeah.
00:35:06
It's interesting, though, that Bradley trade.
00:35:08
I didn't hear about that looking it up.
00:35:09
He's going to be making about 5.
00:35:11
5 mill this season.
00:35:13
Yeah, I know which.
00:35:15
I mean, I obviously the market is way different.
00:35:19
I feel like that's a lot for him.
00:35:22
Just because we haven't seen him play in a while.
00:35:25
Um you mean, like, what? March.
00:35:28
March in the last time.
00:35:31
Um, have you heard anything about going on Dragic? Because that's gonna be a big one, too.
00:35:36
Well, yeah, he and I was still, like, right away Like it, right? We created the open immediately.
00:35:39
Yeah, I actually hate was, like immediately.
00:35:42
Yeah, it was like it was like, I like five or one.
00:35:44
Our time he announced it.
00:35:47
Yeah, and I mean, it will be interesting, because for the heat here they might I might find themselves in a little bit of trouble.
00:35:54
Salary cap wise, Solomon Hill.
00:35:56
I don't see him opting out of 19 million Meyers Leonard with 17 million.
00:36:01
Um, if I'm not mistaken, so I mean, we'll see what happens with the heat, but yeah, I mean, Lakers should easily be making out of the first round our TV first round, of course, making out of the West.
00:36:16
Um, it's just a matter of what they can win the finals.
00:36:19
Yes.
00:36:20
I mean, Miami.
00:36:21
Like pretty much none of the salary cap to get ready for next summer.
00:36:23
We obviously have a big shoes prize.
00:36:26
Krieg.
00:36:27
Im walkie.
00:36:28
I think you're feeling the name going.
00:36:30
Preferring to I mean, they're trying to make a big push for him because of the big glamour market in South Beach.
00:36:35
Bring him.
00:36:36
I mean, just kind of like Bram move. You never know.
00:36:39
I mean, they could have made that question.
00:36:41
We'll see if that happens, but I know a little sensitive topic for us.
00:36:45
I want to get into that right now.
00:36:46
No, she should get into this because now they think about it.
00:36:53
I'm I'm gonna get flamed for this.
00:36:58
I cannot believe I'm going to say this, but I think the Miami Heat are better without the honest And they would be with him.
00:37:08
What? Really? And here's why.
00:37:11
Um, they'd probably give you honest.
00:37:15
What would it have to be like, 35 year? Probably. Yeah.
00:37:19
Right.
00:37:20
35 35 41.
00:37:23
Jimmy Butler can't shoot threes.
00:37:25
At least not in the playoffs.
00:37:26
Not this past year.
00:37:27
He could improve it. That that's fine. No.
00:37:29
Yeah, that never has been.
00:37:30
Never has.
00:37:31
He can't shoot.
00:37:33
Yanis can't shoot threes.
00:37:34
I pray the day comes.
00:37:35
We can't shoot threes.
00:37:37
You're gonna have to lose Thio, get Yang If you don't have to either lose.
00:37:42
Um You know, hero, you might have to lose.
00:37:45
Um Duncan Robinson.
00:37:47
You might have to lose Dragic.
00:37:49
You're gonna be losing some pieces.
00:37:51
And I love Yanis.
00:37:53
I will always say he is.
00:37:54
He is top two in the playoffs.
00:37:57
He was definitely not.
00:37:58
But last season, statistically, he was top three, and he isn't three.
00:38:03
Um, if they get him, they lose a lot of pieces.
00:38:08
They're shooting, goes down drastically.
00:38:10
And that shooting is what carried them in a lot of Siri's.
00:38:13
Obviously, if you're the heat, you have to go after him.
00:38:17
But, you know, thinking of all the money that would be held up for him and all they have to lose to keep him and keep that salary.
00:38:24
I don't know if this is the move for Miami.
00:38:29
I mean, so you kind of mentioned like they have to lose pieces.
00:38:32
I mean, I was just talking to trade they won't necessarily lose coming.
00:38:34
Yeah, here.
00:38:35
He's on a rookie deal right now, So you're not gonna lose Capitalize.
00:38:38
So and then, like boring drugs? They're pretty sure like I would assume right by making a deal.
00:38:44
So? So? So it's cap friendly.
00:38:46
So you still have slider You honestly wanted to like? I'm sure, like they probably probably thought about that is a very smart, like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's thought about then here, Obviously, the working deals.
00:38:56
It's not that much.
00:38:58
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you lost Crowder.
00:39:00
Sure he lost that Avery Bradley is a pretty friendly deal.
00:39:03
I mean, he said it wasn't very much money.
00:39:05
They make it neither.
00:39:07
So they're probably They're on their way to be steptoe, like, make that kind of And I still keep some of the pieces.
00:39:16
Yeah, you know, I just look at so and you know Jimmy Butler.
00:39:20
I'm sure he structured his contract, but, you know, hero has a club option.
00:39:25
That's great.
00:39:27
But, you know, if they don't win it 2021 2022 hero, you know, can leave.
00:39:34
Jimmy Butler will be making 38.
00:39:36
Yeah.
00:39:37
So we're making 35 You know, that's 73.
00:39:40
75 million he got right there here.
00:39:43
You know, you don't have a lot of room for extra guys.
00:39:47
Um, and I love you.
00:39:49
Honest. The long term will be hard.
00:39:51
Yeah. So long term.
00:39:52
Yeah.
00:39:53
And I love you, honest.
00:39:54
But when somebody said he's Jordan and you need to pip and he's right.
00:39:58
And Butler, as good as he is, I don't think would work is a Pippen because of his three point shot? I don't know.
00:40:05
I don't see it working.
00:40:08
Yeah, but we like high degree.
00:40:10
There is a long term be hard.
00:40:12
But, I mean, they do all the shows that they have the hero.
00:40:14
You have the delicate Robinson's, and you have the jobs that kind of make up for that shooting.
00:40:18
So, like you were at Yonsei, that team, I think it could work because he had the almost shooters to kind of make up for Jimmy.
00:40:24
Boy shooting will not be ableto kind of sniper because Duncan Robinson, he's one of the best of the Lee. He is a sniper.
00:40:31
Oh, my gosh.
00:40:33
It's like, yeah, like Kim Joe Harris stuff and clay like, feels like that's probably top shooters in the town in Trey when he's hot, Sometimes he can create a cold, but yeah, he's a sniper, but it will be interesting.
00:40:49
You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna pull on Adrian Wojnarowski.
00:40:52
Um, there is absolutely nothing saying that this is gonna happen.
00:40:55
I'm gonna pull it out of my ass anyway.
00:40:57
Is going to be the first person to say this? Uh, probably not because somebody's probably ready said this, but, um, yeah, Aniston in Greece right now.
00:41:04
When he comes back, he will sign to Supermax with the bucks.
00:41:08
Um, I think it's gonna now He's been operated starting yesterday, right? And he still didn't sign that.
00:41:14
So I think they still don't agree.
00:41:16
So he's in Greece.
00:41:18
I'm sure if he was gonna be coming back soon.
00:41:21
I mean, like, December 1st training camp.
00:41:22
I was coming back in the next week.
00:41:24
He's got Thio.
00:41:25
I would soon I would assume he's coming back.
00:41:27
And I feel like, you know, your you know, your Sinus Supermax.
00:41:31
Even if you know what's in the contract, you're probably not gonna fax it over to Greece.
00:41:36
And I'm not saying that you said it or anything.
00:41:38
You know, you were inferring that.
00:41:39
But I feel like once he comes back, I I think, you know, knowing you honest and, you know, you honest as a player and as a person, that is with his mindset.
00:41:48
I think he's gonna be the mindset of cool.
00:41:51
You may move you.
00:41:53
You keep letting me have input on the moves you keep making moves like this.
00:41:57
Let's sign the ****.
00:41:58
Let's get over it.
00:41:59
Let's not worry about this the whole season. Let's lock in.
00:42:01
Um, that's how I see it.
00:42:02
So, um, November 21st I say Yanis gonna send Supermax within the week, assuming his back from the week, you know, So that makes sense.
00:42:12
I mean, like him not signing it immediately.
00:42:14
It's not a bad.
00:42:15
I don't think I mean eighties when we were talking the Lakers.
00:42:16
Yeah, technically, frame it right now.
00:42:18
He could even leave, But all six singles a pointing towards him still signing a deal with the Lakers like no one, everything him to leave e.
00:42:26
I don't think it's a bad thing, is assigned it immediately.
00:42:29
I know, like I saw some bucks fan like on my twitter be They're saying like, Oh, my God, He's he decided, like, yesterday.
00:42:33
Like his job is gonna leave, Like, calm down like, yeah, Like you said, he is in Greece.
00:42:38
I didn't know he was in Greece.
00:42:39
Me, everything. Greet them. Just enjoy his time. His family.
00:42:41
Like, enjoy that.
00:42:42
Well, on top of that, you know, we've talked about this before to this quarantine, and this code is arguably the best thing to happen to the bucks chances signing on.
00:42:52
You know, the salary goes down.
00:42:56
Um, you know, it's a quick start.
00:42:58
You can say, Hey, look, we now have a lot of time.
00:43:01
You thought we tried to dio We still got one trade done.
00:43:04
We still got some good draft picks.
00:43:05
Still got you good shooters.
00:43:07
Next year, we're going to do it.
00:43:09
Signed on the dotted line.
00:43:10
And at the end of the day, hey would be losing what, like $30 million over the course of, like, five years doesn't sign with the trucks, which, if you wanna I mean, the bucks are a song this season on the bucks.
00:43:23
They're gonna be a winner.
00:43:24
So, um, they're always gonna have a chance is always gonna be on his shoulders.
00:43:28
So, you know, I think I think he'll kind of within the week.
00:43:33
Yeah, I'll pick completely.
00:43:35
Agree with that kind of bounce off of that? Yeah.
00:43:39
Definitely will sign within the week.
00:43:42
Oh, yeah, 100%.
00:43:43
It is pretty e Think the hold is probably trying to figure out just like the five year Mac to do Just do it like a one plus one day that LeBron always didn't like e trying to figure out.
00:43:54
I mean, if I may be out of place in the five year, I mean, like, he has had some injury history.
00:43:59
I mean, he's been a little injury prone.
00:44:01
So, like, you never know at the same time, like first have been like, we'll get big contracts like, Wow, they've been injured.
00:44:09
I mean, look at Katie and still at the same time, Like with a d.
00:44:12
Like being a big I say you can't be respect because he relies too much on like this.
00:44:17
But maybe else on the five year just kind of trust the Lakers, I think Jeannie Buss is a great owner.
00:44:21
Are Blink is a great GM.
00:44:23
They made a lot of moves and they're very aggressive the past three years.
00:44:26
I trust thumbs.
00:44:27
So years.
00:44:31
If I were him, I'd take probably a one plus one.
00:44:36
Um or like a two plus one, depending on one LeBron's contract ends.
00:44:40
Um, just because he's only 27.
00:44:43
So if I were him, obviously you can't you're gonna win some or two titles and then you know when that's over, you'll probably be 29. 30.
00:44:50
You can still get like a Supermax somewhere.
00:44:52
Um, get your last really big contract.
00:44:55
But you know more about the Lakers and ideo I I would I would be willing to bet he does something like a five years.
00:45:02
Yes, LeBron creates the next summer.
00:45:03
Talent that sounds country goes through inspires.
00:45:06
So, like you could do the 1.
00:45:07
1 for that reason to kind of like matter LeBron, because there has been a lot of rumors about him wanting to put Chicago's and, like, um, 80 like you want to go back home and then bring them for Chicago so that you could always, like, leave the door open.
00:45:20
So maybe it's just one more run with LeBron and then potentially could do that.
00:45:24
Yeah, but yeah, just it's hard to turn on money due to his hard.
00:45:28
I mean, look, I happen to Clay Thompson.
00:45:29
Play Thompson 20.
00:45:31
Cl immediately Tears Achilles out for two years like it's just such a shame.
00:45:35
You never It's hard to risk it.
00:45:37
What is his contract right now? Um oh, wait, no.
00:45:42
He does have a huge contract.
00:45:45
Five years. 189 million.
00:45:48
Klay Thompson.
00:45:49
He signed it before last year.
00:45:50
It looks like, Yeah.
00:45:52
So the problem with Klay Thompson dollars, like so he wasn't named to the all 13 last year.
00:45:57
Chris Middleton got it for over him because he wasn't named to that team.
00:46:01
He wasn't. He wasn't. It was before the super Bags.
00:46:03
So, like that cost him, like, $30 million because the media didn't vote for the 13.
00:46:07
I don't think a really a shame.
00:46:09
E don't I don't think Chris Middleton got all MBA.
00:46:14
Um, so I'm talking about the 2018.
00:46:18
19 talking 18.
00:46:20
19. Yeah, that's easy.
00:46:23
2018 19.
00:46:27
Chris Middleton is not on here either.
00:46:28
Uh well, like, Well, Clay didn't get 13 years.
00:46:32
Yeah, Someone got over and that's what I meant someone got.
00:46:35
Which is that Still sad, though.
00:46:36
Like it's still messed up that, like, because the media did a voting for the 13 like he lost all that money.
00:46:41
And then now you could play when you're off for two years.
00:46:44
So it's like, really, which I mean at the same time.
00:46:47
Um, he's a very, very, very rich man.
00:46:50
Um, he will have a career after basketball because he's a good person.
00:46:54
He's gonna get personality and he's got multiple ring.
00:46:56
So um, yeah, I kind of speaking of the Warriors like like what I expect from the Warriors now, Like they think they're done.
00:47:03
Do you think plays career over like, What? Do you see what the lawyers? Unfortunately, I dio, um, I would have loved to have seen this year.
00:47:14
I hate the Warriors.
00:47:17
Um, I like the regular fans, but I hate how ****y and arrogant their bandwagon fans are.
00:47:24
Uh, but I really want to see like a I feel like last year is gonna be the last year anyways, or this year was gonna be last year anyways, But like of, ah, still somewhat Prime Warriors versus Lakers match up.
00:47:36
Um, at least the regular season.
00:47:37
I think we've been great, but Curry is getting older.
00:47:41
Curry has symmetry problems, too.
00:47:44
I think it's time to start, you know, trading some small ass, uh, some small pieces for some trade picks down the road and say, you know, we realized we have, like, four years left.
00:47:57
Let's get some trade pieces gets, um you know, assets.
00:48:01
And you know, when we get there to get there.
00:48:05
Yeah.
00:48:06
I mean, like, yeah, I don't the worries here anymore.
00:48:08
I mean, actually, growing up as a kid, my family from Oakland, so actually a group.
00:48:12
I used to like the world, especially the warrior games, my grandpa and stuff like a kid.
00:48:16
And I remember watching Steph Curry's rookie year, and so I was a big fan of them, but yeah, as soon as they got, like, really good.
00:48:21
And there's a lot of bunch of family and friends.
00:48:23
Kind of just lost them.
00:48:24
Obviously been LeBron James, like in a roof team that's getting a LeBron for that.
00:48:30
So, yeah, I agree with you on that, but yeah, I don't see the words like, I think the Chinese probably over.
00:48:35
At this point, I mean, Draymond Green looks really bad.
00:48:38
Last year he was like nine and the All Star.
00:48:41
He was just all these play Hall of Fame.
00:48:43
Maybe more people talk about him all of fame.
00:48:45
I don't think he's a Hall of Fame, a ring or he did not look good without nothing playing.
00:48:50
Yeah, step is injury problems.
00:48:51
I mean, so you can't just rely on him either.
00:48:54
So yes, I mean, you could one act show of stuff and hopefully it's a big year.
00:49:00
Maybe you write me every few or maybe like you never know.
00:49:02
But just the act of the world run by over with.
00:49:06
I don't see it coming back because missing two whole years in your thirties like that's You can't do that like when it comes.
00:49:13
I probably make a role player like I don't see him being the same play that well, well, in one of the biggest things about clay that people a casual MBA fan might not understand is that he's a fantastic defender, one of the most with the league.
00:49:28
That's that's going to take out his his you know, first horizontal movement.
00:49:34
Defensively, it's gonna change everything.
00:49:36
His speed.
00:49:37
Yeah, that's gone.
00:49:41
He'll be a role player.
00:49:42
Steph Curry is 32.
00:49:44
He's not getting any younger.
00:49:45
Drummond's 30.
00:49:46
Klay Thompson's 30 Draymond green.
00:49:49
I don't think he ever should have been in the conversation for all of fame, I think, put him on any other team.
00:49:54
He's an above average player, but you know these guys, they're getting older.
00:49:58
They got some good young players out.
00:49:59
Um, so unfortunately, I think it's over.
00:50:03
But, you know, maybe you can have Stefan Draymond show you who could be the future of the team.
00:50:08
Who knows? Yeah.
00:50:09
I mean, like, they do still have big into the effigies wise announcer.
00:50:14
So they have to make other young pieces kind of make a complaint running still, but yeah, like, um, traded for Kelly uber.
00:50:20
Which kind of surprised me because there's so deep in the luxury tax that is costing them $80 million just for next year's, and I can't tell you break like that's how much technology attacks they are.
00:50:30
Nothing is kind of like 50 million, but it's costing 80 million.
00:50:33
They're so deep military attacks just like insane to me.
00:50:38
Well, on top of that, You know, you look at the West.
00:50:40
Um, you know, even saying the Clippers and the Rockets, they're going to drop out depending on how that all works out.
00:50:46
Maybe in the thunder.
00:50:48
You know, you still got Lakers, Nuggets, jazz, Mavs, blazers, Grizzlies Look, good, sons air better.
00:50:54
Um, you know, pelicans will be better.
00:50:57
Temperatures will be better, so they're still kind of teams ahead of them.
00:50:59
So, you know, if they do make the playoffs, um, there probably be a sad eight seed.
00:51:05
Um, especially when Wiggins can't shoot.
00:51:09
Yeah, so it's a shame, but I mean, yeah, the warriors dynasty, I think both were is probably over with not the same words.
00:51:16
And we always come to know in the past 67 years or so.
00:51:20
Mhm.
00:51:23
Okay, so that pretty much wraps up the MBA.
00:51:25
That took almost four hours.
00:51:27
20 go over a few like NFL topics, I guess.
00:51:30
Before relief.
00:51:33
Um, yeah.
00:51:34
So there's a big Thursday night game.
00:51:37
Um, it was Seahawks.
00:51:38
Cardinals C has won by seven.
00:51:42
So I mean, that kind of surprised me because, like, Carl's really rolling and stuff right now.
00:51:47
Yeah.
00:51:48
So the c.
00:51:49
I still want to talk to the league.
00:51:50
They still believe in them.
00:51:51
I mean, Russell wasn't had some rough games Nbp conversation anymore.
00:51:55
Commercially emerging star.
00:51:56
So what do you think of the Seahawks Cardinals? Like who think it just says more about this game? I don't think I think it's a bad look for both of them.
00:52:05
Um, Seahawks looked overrated.
00:52:08
Uh, Cardinals had calamari hurt and they were driving that would have tied it.
00:52:12
What this game tells me most.
00:52:14
Cliff Kingsbury is not going to win the Cardinals a championship.
00:52:17
He isn't, and I know it's super early, but, um, you know Kyler Murray was hurting.
00:52:22
We're driving down the field.
00:52:23
There were nickel and dime ing them, and I know you're watching.
00:52:25
At 1 30 left, they were getting 10 yards centered, centered centers.
00:52:29
Suddenly they get to the 27 with a minute left in two timeouts and they're going for the end zone specifically.
00:52:36
You know, they're not getting nickel and I'm not getting closer.
00:52:39
It just didn't make sense.
00:52:40
And, you know, couple that with the stupid field goal decision in overtime against the Seahawks.
00:52:47
This is the second game and he's one and one in games where he screwed up.
00:52:52
But this is the second game that it's happened, and I would start to be a little worried, but, yeah, Seahawks Russell Wilson.
00:52:59
Uh, I've been saying it. He's not it.
00:53:03
I mean, yeah, like I think we talked about it like last week.
00:53:06
Yeah.
00:53:07
Cleans birds like I don't think there was a job in the first place.
00:53:09
He was a losing record coach in college that he goes from like, a like a losing record in the big talk, too.
00:53:14
So it wasn't like a big, like big time like regarded there was like the SEC or big fan of the big 12 and like, yeah, no job right away.
00:53:27
That's very questionable.
00:53:28
My paying to just kind of just kind of handed to him on a silver platter.
00:53:32
So I don't think it's just down in the first place.
00:53:34
So, yes, I think he deserves all the screen in the world.
00:53:37
Yeah, I feel like the Colonel's a lot.
00:53:39
I mean, I felt they think that the best in the NFC West I still liked on the bus e.
00:53:44
I thought to see that for the longest time, but I don't know, like Russell was made a couple of questions stuff.
00:53:50
All these probably MVP anymore.
00:53:52
I mean, I mean questioning all year long.
00:53:53
I don't see it.
00:53:54
Five past levels at this point.
00:53:57
Yeah.
00:54:01
On top of that, the Cardinals offensive line had, like, 20 penalties.
00:54:04
If the offensive line to stop shooting themselves in the foot holding in the end zone would have been a completely different game and they weren't even fans there.
00:54:10
So yeah, exactly.
00:54:12
So need to shame.
00:54:15
But, um, yeah, I feel like I said the car was a lot.
00:54:18
I mean, I'm after we, too.
00:54:20
I said, Colin Murray dark MPP potentially.
00:54:22
I mean, I still like him a lot as a player.
00:54:24
E I mentioned to you on Sunday.
00:54:26
I'm pretty sure, like I think Colin Murray like looking and play like Like I seem to do like a lot of magical things at the same time, Like I don't see him stuff that on.
00:54:39
I don't see something.
00:54:40
He does that Rogers does that Murray can't do like I just I just don't see like I think he's not good of a player that got out of town second year player to me, they get all the ham, very public place and whatnot, really electrifying that he really how much fun, this family from the watch, everything that we could do it.
00:54:57
I could see how American dudes about the same so playing with the same kind of level of that young of age is really impressive.
00:55:04
I'm glad you brought this up because I have a 2020 quarterback efficiency draft or Excuse me graft through Week 10.
00:55:12
It includes passes and rushing place, which is big because we know Kyler Murray is a big Russia, so it doesn't take into account on, but it excludes penalties.
00:55:21
Eso like if there's a holding that's not against Tyler Marie, and it registers estimated points average added per play and success rate.
00:55:31
Um, unless the quarterbacks one and to the homes and Rogers and they're like this, the homes is First, let me list some other quarterbacks above Tyler Marie this year.
00:55:42
Josh Talent, back Prescott, Ryan Tannehill and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
00:55:49
No, I'm not saying that these quarterbacks are better than Cailan Murray, but Kyler Murray the best thing about him in his leg is his legs.
00:55:57
Better than any other quarterback.
00:56:02
And when we take his rushes into account better than any quarterback e don't know this season this season. E.
00:56:12
We take his Russian game into account, which is his biggest asset.
00:56:16
Mhm, and he's still lagging by a considerable amount below Josh Allen and Tannin Hill.
00:56:25
And I know it's not super fair because Canon Hills mask to do much and Allen's and an easy division.
00:56:34
But the difference between Rogers and Murray? I mean, I guess I can show it on the screen.
00:56:40
If you see, um, you know Rodgers and Mahomes air up there? Murray's in the middle, like right here by that black.
00:56:49
So there's a considerable difference between them and talking wrong, I think Hi, Lynne Murray is a fantastic quarterback.
00:56:58
Um, but, you know, like I texted you, I think comparing them is Apple's to oranges because Aaron Rodgers is what is the best quarterback of all time talent wise and Kyler Murray relies more on his legs, not a knock, but they just do two different things.
00:57:16
Well, he's just to hit the thing, though, just like like like yeah, guys it right now I agree with you if I was saying like, Yeah, I gotta consider age to There's only how very second year.
00:57:26
It's kind of like talking like a month ago. We're talking about mojo.
00:57:29
This is Roger. That was a better town.
00:57:31
We're all e mean, bullet ball, really young quarterbacks.
00:57:34
So it's like they still room to grow and potentially surpassed riders like in the future.
00:57:39
I mean, like, calm Murray.
00:57:40
What? He's 23 24 years old, and Rogers about 36 37 like that's a huge age gap.
00:57:46
So I mean, obviously, right now, like probably every disrespect, mostly like oh, like Murray, Irma Homes have a better career in Roger's. Not that respectful.
00:57:54
Like I'm gonna dismiss all those years of greatness and Rogers and put on display.
00:57:57
But I'm just saying, because we're in their age, thank you is really impressive.
00:58:02
Um, in waters that make him the league.
00:58:03
He didn't start playing right away.
00:58:04
I mean, you took him a few years to kind of started becoming stars.
00:58:08
So from Murray, do a digital age kind of come in and make kind of burst onto the scene in my home kind of do this in his 30 years of starter.
00:58:15
I mean, it's pretty impressive.
00:58:17
At the same time, though, we also take Rodgers age into effect.
00:58:20
He's 36.
00:58:21
He can't get out as quickly.
00:58:23
And let's also look at the the players they're playing with.
00:58:27
Aaron Rodgers has Davante, Adams and a whole lot of crap ever since these are got hurt.
00:58:33
Kyler Murray has a guy who is a Hall of Famer and Larry Fitzgerald, who has more tackles and drops.
00:58:39
He's got DeAndre Hopkins, who is easily cannot ever argue.
00:58:43
Not a top five wide receiver, probably top three wide receiver in the league.
00:58:49
You can argue him, Adams and Julio.
00:58:54
You could argue that however you want.
00:58:56
Um, I personally think Adams might be a good thing, just like she doesn't exist no more.
00:59:02
You start on the window.
00:59:04
Hey, he's had 11 targets in two years.
00:59:06
He came that has had a really good year to just he's not don't exist.
00:59:11
D.
00:59:12
K.
00:59:13
Metcalf has been quiet and he's not been as good as the day.
00:59:15
But that's not That's not the point.
00:59:16
You know. He's got these guys.
00:59:18
He's got a 65 tight end of Dan Arnold, who is not great, but he's good.
00:59:22
Um, he's guys. Yeah.
00:59:26
Shut up. Plan.
00:59:27
Uh, he's got Christian Kirk, Great slot receiver.
00:59:29
He's got a lot of weapons and he also has Kenyan Drake and Chase seven South backfield.
00:59:34
Granted, Aaron Rodgers is Erin Jones, but he also has a lot more weapons, and Aaron Rodgers is older, but he said he fell off.
00:59:42
But now, when he's doing, you know well, nobody's talking about the age, so you know, that's another thing.
00:59:47
Age is great for Murray, but age also works for Rogers, and you also gotta look at who's around him because Adams is great.
00:59:54
But, I mean, you could only do so much when your second receivers Marquis and he drops every other past.
01:00:02
Yeah, also, you're probably right, because the same time, like Armor Murray against Dallas, he was nine for 24.
01:00:07
Like passing.
01:00:09
Rogers never put a performance like that.
01:00:10
I mean, even his horrible game against Tampa Bay, like he's not gonna put forms like that, was just absolute pathetic by Connery's wait.
01:00:19
When Rogers has a bad game, it's because he's getting hit and there's somebody open and completely on him when he makes a bad pass, you know, against Tampa Bay completely on him.
01:00:30
But Murray Rogers never misses guys as often as Murray has when he has time.
01:00:36
When he has guys open.
01:00:37
So, you know, that's why I think he will be great.
01:00:40
But, you know, I think yeah, yeah.
01:00:43
I'm not saying, like, right now they have a point.
01:00:46
The future? You never know you could be involved because I like primary future better than, um, Lamar Jackson.
01:00:54
Personally, I think like I'm probably a better passer.
01:00:58
This is Mark Jackson playoff, then.
01:01:01
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:04
Uh huh.
01:01:08
Yes.
01:01:09
That's what wraps it for the show.
01:01:11
Anything you want to talk about real quick.
01:01:14
I think Packers Colts play 3. 25.
01:01:18
Um, and the Chiefs.
01:01:20
They play the Raiders at 7.
01:01:22
20.
01:01:23
The Raiders beating last out.
01:01:26
Yeah, it is week 11.
01:01:28
Um, in the NFL.
01:01:30
I think this will be my prediction.
01:01:32
My bold prediction is that this will be a week that the M V P race is likely decided.
01:01:38
Um, colts have the best defense in the lead.
01:01:41
If Aaron Rodgers doesn't show up, he's already a little legging behind.
01:01:46
If Aaron Rodgers doesn't show up, the M V p is basically my homes.
01:01:49
Unless Mahomes is terrible, But he won't.
01:01:52
I mean, we know that unless something crazy happens, um, And if my homes doesn't put up a great performance and or, you know, just looks pedestrian, um, in a dome against the Raiders defense, I think Rodgers takes the lead.
01:02:09
I think this lead this game right here is gonna be the biggest indicator on the MVP.
01:02:13
Because you know Russell Wilson? He already fell down.
01:02:16
Kyler Murray fell down a little bit.
01:02:17
So I think this is the week toe look at for M V P res.
01:02:22
Yeah.
01:02:23
I mean, that's a really good point, I would say, but yeah.
01:02:25
I mean, I could see my whole having a big game.
01:02:27
Community lost the radio earlier this year.
01:02:28
If you find very motivates a really big performance somewhere last in the kind of I mean, I think he will sleep on the radio.
01:02:34
I think it is a really good See.
01:02:35
You mean don't sleep on them something.
01:02:39
I think they could beat anyone in the chief on the all years to the Raiders.
01:02:43
Yes.
01:02:44
I mean, the race could be anyone, but yeah, So I think that would be more motivated to be ready because of what happened.
01:02:49
E a big game. But yeah.
01:02:52
I mean, Packers Supposedly a big, interesting matchup.
01:02:54
Tennessee. How that plays out.
01:02:56
Yeah, I'm picking Indianapolis.
01:02:58
As much as I love the Packers, I'm you.
01:03:04
Look, I've Packer fans.
01:03:07
We have a gift.
01:03:09
We have a gift.
01:03:10
And that gift is when everybody else says, Oh, look at the Packers.
01:03:13
They're seven.
01:03:14
And to their first NFC, We look at this team and we say, Yeah, but the defense of ****.
01:03:20
And so when you play good off, it's been the story since 2011 when they went 15 and one after winning the super on the defense of **** every single year.
01:03:32
Since then, the defense has been completely overrated.
01:03:36
I'm not gonna fall for it again.
01:03:37
This defense is overrated.
01:03:39
Um, the coals don't need to do much because the parents will have a tough time.
01:03:44
Um, I'm calling now.
01:03:46
The Packers, they're not going to get to the NFC championship game.
01:03:49
And this game is going to show you just how how flawed this team still is.
01:03:54
Good team loved to death.
01:03:56
This is gonna be a wake up call for a lot of pack of mint.
01:04:02
Yeah. I mean, like, I'm a good point.
01:04:04
I want to see the fact of Blue.
01:04:05
I'm factor losing.
01:04:07
I mean, that's fine by me, but at the same time, like so real quick, kind of bring it, bring it up.
01:04:12
But he wrote a good point.
01:04:14
How about it steals this year's Who is undefeated, But a lot of people start talking about some like you thinking, bleeding sailors, hype or anything.
01:04:21
I just a lot of nothing at all.
01:04:23
Beat the Giants by 10 week.
01:04:25
Broncos by five.
01:04:26
Texans by seven.
01:04:27
Eagles by nine all week.
01:04:31
Beat the Browns by 31.
01:04:32
But you know it is the Browns.
01:04:34
That's good.
01:04:35
It tightens three.
01:04:37
Ravens four, Cowboys five.
01:04:39
Um, that's all week.
01:04:41
Bengals 26 the Bangles their trash.
01:04:43
So, um, really, their only someone impressive one this season was the Browns on day should have lost to Dallas.
01:04:50
So I'm not buying it all.
01:04:53
I got to go in the homes.
01:04:54
I don't see a team that's gonna beat this team in the playoffs because that offense is too **** good.
01:04:58
Their defense is good enough? Yeah.
01:05:01
I mean, like all people cheese.
01:05:03
But this thing, I mean, Stairs will still make a run for the money.
01:05:05
I think so.
01:05:06
I mean, like, they could win that close games.
01:05:08
A very experienced My talents are fantastic.
01:05:10
Coach Ben Roethlisberger.
01:05:12
He's a very experienced quarterback, that he knows what he's doing.
01:05:15
And he was pretty good for Steelers.
01:05:17
Your kids from the defense.
01:05:18
I mean, it would be, but you never could sleep on them.
01:05:21
I mean, I said don't kind of mouth like I wanted to trash, but I think it made the run for the cheese money.
01:05:28
I would like to say before I forget, I called the Dolphins my dark horse.
01:05:36
They have won five straight since losing the Seahawks.
01:05:38
They're six and three and their next three games or Broncos Jets Bangles.
01:05:44
Um, they're more right now.
01:05:48
Hey, watch out for Miami to they're gonna win the They're gonna win the Super Bowl, so you know. Okay.
01:05:58
Alright.
01:05:59
So that wraps her show.
01:06:00
Um, I've seen a reasonable doubt.
01:06:02
Yeah, he'll tweet us.
01:06:03
Any questions they will talk about on this show? Yeah, I'm a CS four more six.
01:06:07
And Trevor that you're really into every goodnight.
01:06:10
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