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We're gonna talk to NBA for, but with the draft happen and I would say the number one pick, I don't really like Anthony Edwards is the number one pick, but Lemelle a ball and James Wiseman did not fit the Timberwolves in terms of position with D'Angelo Russell in Karl Anthony towns.
Which was unfortunate because I don't think Anthony Edwards has the talent to be a too good of a number one pick.
He's a very talented player.
Yeah, I really feel like that wasn't a great number one pick, like in general, to be honest this year.
Yeah, I mean, it was just in general.
The class wasn't as good, although, I mean, I have at least some sort of confidence in the Mellow and Wiseman, but it's like it's just unfortunate for the Wolves.
Maybe they should have traded the pick because Edwards the thing I'm concerned about Edwards.
Everybody knows about his talent, but he doesn't have the best shot selection.
He doesn't play the best defense, and when he played for Georgia, they only went 16 and 16, which isn't something I want to see.
I want to get a winner on my team.
Anthony Edwards has not won, Did not win in his one season in college, although he is the on the guy in the top three who actually went Thio American.
Well, I guess James Wiseman did, but he technically just left Memphis.
But like that's the other thing.
I mean, James Wiseman also hasn't played a game in a year.
It was just You're right.
It wasn't as good of a class as it was last year.
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And, yeah, we were just talking about I feel like Anthony Edwards.
He isn't a winner.
He I feel like he doesn't like.
You want a guy who wants to play defense and maybe, I mean, I'm not saying like he has any problems with effort or anything.
I mean, obviously I don't know him.
I'm sure he has a lot of gives a lot of effort, but, like just in general, even if you're like, I mean, you defenders, bad defenders air such a liability for a team like you see these teams like, for example, like like the Wizards, who they just They have a good offense.
They just don't play any defense, and it's such a liability and you you don't want like Anthony Edwards.
While he may be a good shooter, there are some holes in his game, and while he's a good player, I don't think he deserves to be number one pick.
He reminds me of another number one pick named Anthony.
No way, Anthony Anthony Bennett.
There's actually been three Anthony's picked at number one in, like the past eight years.
That's kind of funny.
Uh, what year was been attracted after Davis, I think.
Oh, man, that's crazy to think about Davis feels.
That was so that he was definitely the biggest draft Boston in history.
I mean, there's really no doubt about it. Kwame Brown.
Oh, I got it all like this list E very well feel like Anthony Edwards could fall into that.
And she, like he has the skill, doesn't have the skill, But I feel like he hasn't figured out the game enough like and doesn't have enough experience.
Well, yeah, I mean, none of that's the problem.
That's the main problem with this draft class.
A lot of these guys don't have much experience.
No Lemelle a ball.
No, no, no, Like, I mean, if, but I think it's pretty clear that James Anthony Edwards he fits their position.
So I understand the pick.
I just don't really think like I'm not criticizing the Timberwolves for taking him, but like I really think that they if they had the opportunity, they definitely should have traded him.
Yeah, I think they should have traded the pick.
Because there are teams that would have loved to get Lemelle or James Wiseman at number one.
I mean, it was e think he'll be.
He'll be okay, but I really feel like there.
I mean, it's not even the Timberwolves fault.
I think he was the best player available with that pick e.
Just don't think that this was a good draft class.
You know, I think he actually think he has a very high potential because he has so much that you can improve on the defensive side of the ball and just like being a better not really like skillful player, but just a smart, smarter player.
I think he can improve a lot in that area, but he doesn't.
I mean, he's gonna just struggle.
I mean, you can argue that like, while at the same time you're worried about his defensive struggles like that is an area that is probably you can improving on, like shot selection.
That's his other issue.
That's like Jay Bilas was talking about on draft night like you can improve on shot selection.
That's not a skill based thing.
So if you're drafting for talent Anthony Edwards, I mean, he's in the top three.
Either way, you're drafting for talent.
He's right up there with James Wiseman and Lemelle.
Oh, I would say, but I think James Wiseman was the smart pick at number two and HLA Melo was the smart pick at number three, and the mellow now gets Gordon Hayward, which we'll talk about later.
But I think I mean, he's such a good passer.
James Wiseman is just It hasn't played much, but lately.
But, I mean, if his if he can hit what like people think he if his town he lives up to his talent, basically, he could be like one of the better centers in the NBA.
Maybe, maybe even like the next Anthony Davis, who knows, Like E.
Yeah, I like this pick.
I mean, he's definitely the, but I think he I mean, obviously he fits the team here and I just think that so we haven't seen a lot of him.
He'll he'll turn out well, I mean, he was highest **** guy, so we know he'll be good.
Yeah, well, yeah.
I mean, I guess Was he like the highest rated D highest rated in this class coming out of high school? I think he waas.
Yes, I think he was projected number one out of high school.
So and they had that whole mishap with, like, Penny Hardaway or whatever.
Yeah, eligible to play e like in general.
It's like it all goes back to how this draft classes in this strong Like, I mean, I feel like people don't give him enough credit at the same time, but like, you get two guys next year like Kate Cunningham.
Two guys like guys.
Cade Cunningham is a guy, and he went to Oklahoma State, which is kind of funny.
Guys in basketball don't usually go to Oklahoma State, and then the next LeBron 2022 a m on ebates.
I mean, it's a nice draft classes, but I don't think people give this enough credit, though I like the pick of James Wiseman, also like the pick of Lemelle.
Oh, but let's go to number four and I think like the number four guys, thank you hockey guy to to to to a I think I said the right amount of twos.
Thank you for joining the broadcast, but number four, I think, was the pick.
That was kind of surprising.
Patrick Williams, who I believe he's listed.
He's listed as a forward, right? Yeah, he was a guy that people thought had a chance to at least drop out of the top 10.
Maybe being a later lottery pick.
He got number four, and that's surprising to the Bulls.
And, uh, I don't know.
I feel like the Bulls.
They really needed some improvement somewhere.
And Patrick Williams is a good player, But I don't know if he's the type of wind now guy that they need, although he does give them some help it forward.
I mean, that's the thing.
They don't really need a win.
No guy, they're awful.
Well, then, that Doesn't that mean they do need a win now? Guy? No.
They need a building, play that player.
They need a player that they can develop off of.
And maybe they saw something in Patrick claims.
Maybe they don't think he's refined enough to be really good, but maybe they think they think they are.
Because I know we said we're gonna ignore the group chat, but can you go over the number five pick? I need to clarify something very quickly.
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I'm very good used, but, uh, number five was Isaac.
And this was interesting.
I know a lot of Cavaliers fans were happy to see this pick.
I mean, I think that this is and this is a solid pick.
I mean, Isaac Okoro is a solid player.
I mean, he's been he's been talking about for a while, and interestingly enough, the Cavaliers have already signed him.
But he was very, very, very good at Auburn.
He's really good on both sides of the ball.
A little bit undersized are actually I see.
What position is he listed as From what I was thinking, he was listed.
Um, yeah, well, he's listed as a guard slash forward.
I was gonna say he's a little bit undersized for a forward at 66 250 but he average 12 or 2 25.
He averaged 12 points a game on 5 14 shooting, 4.
4 rebounds and two assists in 31.
5 minutes per game.
That doesn't see him too great, but I feel like he's really that kind of player That has a huge impact in other areas of the game, and he's just a very smart player.
He's a very good player, named to the all SEC second team, all freshman team and the all defensive team.
So the defensive side of the ball was really where he shined, and I mean, it's a It's a good pick for the Cavaliers.
I really feel like he's one of those guys that if you don't see appearing in the stat line a ton, but he's gonna be a solid, solid guy, So yeah, yeah, I mean, I did really like to pick.
Wait, how much of the draft did you watch, Chris? I think I watched through like the first.
I mean, I'm just wondering, like I watched through the first, like few picks because other people were gonna use the TV.
Unfortunately, but like, I mean, I I would have watched Mawr if I could have But I think, um and yeah, I agree.
I like to pick at number five, but what about number six? And I mean, it's once you get past like the top three.
I think there's like a group of like the top three.
After Edwards went, it was like, pretty.
It was really not interesting for, like the last 12 13 14 Chris yourself funny in the chat.
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Clarify the situation.
12 13, 14 minutes of like no suspense because Anthony Edwards and James Wiseman went and then the Hawks got Anucha on Ah, Kong grew.
I think this pick you know, Interestingly enough, Calvin, he played on the on the basketball team with Lonzo Lo Bello and land.
Yeah, I saw that right.
Get high school team and then wasn't it with another guy like, uh, somebody else who's like gonna be in college soon, or like, who's effort? I don't know.
I'm not sure, but all I know, he was on that team, which is actually really funny that he end up getting drafted in the same draft class and all that Chino Hills.
They ended up winning the state championship.
I think they're the only on Leah public high school to ever do it, which is kind of interesting, but, uh, yeah, I mean, the news I'm seeing for Anucha undock.
Congo is not major, and he has a fractured toe.
But, like, that's 123 weeks recovery.
I think he should be fine.
Um, wait, Calvin Israel.
High injury risk with a with an injured toe.
A fractured toe.
Oh, boy, no, But I think the the Hawks, I guess the Hawks have been about guards for a while now, and I feel like they haven't really I guess they had, uh I mean, they they needed to get a guy inside, and they've got one now.
So yeah, I do like to pick.
I mean, yeah, the hawks, they're putting together quite a team. I know.
I mean, they already have trade young.
Well, let me look up their current, uh, roster because I remember reading it, but I can't recall the exact player players.
I could find it. Sorry.
It's interesting how, like, ah, lot of these picks like, Oh, yeah, this is who counted.
And it has so much less power now over players.
Like a lot of these guys, they're like foreign picks are like, Kevin, listen to this.
Listen to this team at point guard.
They've got Trae Young and Region Rondo.
Can't Reddish and Kevin harder, or I don't know how to say the last time I think it's hurt her, but yeah, Herter would start, I believe.
They have DeAndre Hunter and Tony Snell.
So you're saying they have depth? That every single position? No, no.
And then powerful over John Collins and Danilo Gallinari, who they just signed for 61 a half mil.
Yeah, a little bit expensive, but I mean, he's a very good player paid, but I mean, he is a good player.
They have Clint Capela on your on Yucca.
That is a good line.
You know I did it.
All right, now I forgot they traded for Clint Capela like near the end of the season.
E I don't know if they needed the center.
In that case, like I mean, I guess they they're sort of a complete team.
I mean, I kind of feel like, Yeah, it's interesting they were coming up.
E But Okonkwo is gonna be interesting to see how they work him in.
I definitely could see him.
Maybe getting some power forward Rap rap rapping to centers because he's only 6 ft nine e can very well see them playing like they could definitely go ahead and play trade Young.
How do you say his last name is it like curator Heard her prey Young herder DeAndre Hunter on Goku and, uh, wow and Clint Capela.
That's a good line up.
I mean, e won't say people forget, but like Clint, Capela is a good player and then they have depth.
You're right, Cam Reddish John Collins.
John Collins is a starter.
I mean, he's a starter right now.
I just assumed he would start over on Goku at the start.
Yeah, I mean, I liked the pick and he's only 692 45 like he's a gallon RD to what we're forgetting about Cal Inarritu.
There's so many players that we could just forget about them all. I know.
Alright, well, it's a double team.
Not a more, actually.
I mean, I think every year that that's the cool part about the N b A.
Like even if you pick in the lottery, you could solve a really good team, like at the by the end of it.
Like the Wizards, the Wizards team looks really good. The Warriors.
I missed it even bigger.
The Warriors of a really good team after picking in the lottery.
But let's move on. Killian.
Hayes went to the Detroit Pistons.
Who? I mean, you could argue they need a win now player, because they're also, uh, also not a very good team.
But like, I guess, Well, they were in contention for at least a little bit this year.
It's not that long, and, um, he's a point guard and shooting guard.
Um, and I think he looks like he's he was a foreign player, right? Hey, didn't play in, uh, for the N C.
Yeah, I guess so.
But Yeah, I like to pick.
I mean, they need a guy who they need a window guy.
They were in the lottery.
They got someone who I think deserves to be picked around there.
Uh, let's get his college stats.
Did he play in the euro league in college? Uh, he's a French basketball player.
Um, I don't know Killian Hayes.
He average Oh, he played in Germany and averaged 11.
6 points per game and 5.
So not the greatest stats, but I think I mean, I assume he played against professional players.
So I would say That's pretty good.
Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Over the past few years, we've seen a lot of people from out of country like coming in and getting a spot in the top 10. We Luca.
This year, we have 30 de gea and taste.
Fan favorite Chris stops for Zynga's before.
No, I felt so bad for poor Zynga's.
I watched that draft and I was like I was I mean, I wasn't a so I was like nine and I felt bad because it was like this Little innocents, like six year old kid, was like booing like out of his mind because they pick Kristaps Porzingis.
And I felt so bad for Chris does for Zynga's.
And he proved everybody wrong and then went over to Dallas, which who also has a very good team, by the way. Dallas.
But, yeah, there's a lot of teams.
I feel like this is kind of a year when a lot of things shift.
I mean, the poor warriors, they I thought they were gonna be so good this year.
They added James Wiseman, the group with Curry, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson.
Well, I think they could still have a good starting line.
I mean, do you think they can play both Wiggins and uber at the same time? Even though they're both forward? I am they common? This would be in their lineup.
Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Kelly, you Bray, Draymond and Wiseman.
I know and then Andrew Wiggins on the bench.
But do you think they're gonna play Wiggins and uber, even though both of them aren't really guards? Uh, it will be interesting who they play instead of clay.
I mean, they could go with a bear lineup and maybe play Wiggins or uber at shooting guard, but that just doesn't seem like the right position, you know? Yeah.
I mean, it feels weird.
It's like there are certain positions that you can shift like center to power, forward point guard of shooting guard, but like small forward, you're right.
Like Kelly, uber is a big forward to like he's not.
He's not like a shooting guard type.
So yeah, I mean, it's gonna be interesting how I feel that whole because it really feels like they almost built around Clay Thompson and Steph Curry, not really planning for the occasion that Clay Thompson and our Klay Thompson or Steph Curry is out because now I feel like they're a little bit weak at the shooting guard position just to back him up.
But, I mean, Draymond is so versatile that I feel like they can almost they can run Drammen anywhere.
I mean, if they really needed Thio, they could run him at small forward to you know, it could.
They have a lot of versatile players.
I feel like, so that's a good thing for them.
But I still feel like they're gonna need to find some kind of shooting guard, which is gonna be interesting.
I think I think that you could see them maybe signing some free agent shooting guard just to a smaller deal, you know? All right, well, let's go to the Knicks.
Who got o be topping who? I mean, one of the few guys who was, like, rocked the college world and then got drafted.
People were saying that Oh, be Topping might actually be the highest drafted player who actually played in U S.
U S College other than like James Wiseman.
But, like, I guess that didn't end up happening.
But, like, I don't like that mixes lineup now, Frank.
I don't know What's his name? R.
Barrett, Obi Top and Julius Randle Missile Robinson.
They got Mo Harkless on the bench, not the greatest lineup ever.
I don't think this team is gonna make noise, but I mean, I feel like Obi Top and yeah, he I know it's college.
I know it's Dayton, but he looked really, really good.
Like he looked like he could be a star in this league.
Yeah, I don't I don't actually love this pig.
I don't know I just feel like overtopping.
He has a few very weak points in his game.
I mean, a shooting has been okay, is driving, but I feel like he's not good on defense.
I don't know if he's gonna build a function in N B A world.
I feel like I like What's I heard Stephen A.
Smith say This thing kind of seems like the box office pick.
This is the guy that's gonna get you those insane dunks.
But if he thought people were raving around about him like he's some kind of LeBron James, I just feel like he can dunk the ball really well.
He's very flashy, but I don't think that he's gonna be ableto to be consistent enough against NBA defenders because I mean, he was playing a date.
I think I think, you know, I think people that's a big, different people.
I think people in gyms when shooting, they're not going to say Kobe, they're not going to say LeBron James, they'll be like Obi Topping.
I see it right now, Chris, like the next generation of Children, Oh, be Kerpen.
That's what's gonna happen.
James Wiseman er Anthony Edwards? No, LeBron James.
Wouldn't it be funny if people kept saying like LeBron James even through like the next, like, 40 years? Even after he tried to reach up? Yeah, I imagine if it translated between eras like Bill Russell, Michael Jordan.
But Russell wasn't all that much of a shooter, though.
That's in James.
Yeah, that's gonna be the first example.
I came up with Bill Russell, like, wasn't much of a shooter.
That was a Magic Johnson.
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The site layout looks really good.
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Anyway, Demi of D Asia went to the Wizards at number nine and I think people were saying this might be like E.
I mean, this was a steel getting a guy.
I think he's from Israel, I believe who is also a forward.
I believe who can.
It's just like he's the type of player that like a team, he's the type of wind now player that we're always talking about but like listen to the Wizards lineup right now, John Wall unless he gets traded.
Bradley Beal of D Asia Hachi Mora and then stupid Yon Mohini a center.
But that's what you're starting it Don't know, Calvin.
They signed Robin Lopez.
Well, that's a lot of anybody is better than Ian Mahinmi.
Oh, and they have, ah, Thomas Bryant to, I guess, right? Mm.
Okay, Yeah, that's not about I mean, I think the Wizards could maybe be a playoff team next year.
They just need to work on their defense.
I mean, yeah, that's that's kind of the biggest thing right now.
I feel like they need some kind of defense and they need something other than Bradley Beal.
I'm hoping for their sake that Danny Avdo can kind of bring that spark.
Watching his highlights, I'll say I Well, I love this highlight because I was curious.
I will do that with a lot of these international players when I don't really know what their game looks like.
They're pretty boring, is literally just a bunch of layups.
But he seems like he's a consistent scorer, makes all his layups, has some nice moves, knocks down his threes.
I mean, that kind of seems like he's what he's gonna be He's gonna be a nice combo, Thio Burton.
So it's gonna be really interesting to see how he fits into that offense because he's there.
Yeah, honestly, he's quite similar to Burton is like I'm not going to say they're like of same, but I think that they're gonna probably like if they were on different teams.
I think they play a pretty similar role.
I'm wondering who's going to play a little bit more inside.
I mean, obviously, but actually it will probably be more apt Asia.
But I think that he's gonna be a nice defensive piece to.
I know he's a very well rounded player.
That's what I've heard about him.
And he was one guy that was seeing possible top for kind of, uh, what's it called? Rumors that he was gonna be in the top four, didn't turn out, fell to the Wizards and they pulled the trigger quick.
Uh, their coach was very happy about that. I know.
Yeah, but and then last pick Jalen Smith went to the sons, and when I tried to look up Jaylin Smith stats first of all, it came up with Jaylin Smith from the Cowboys.
It's not even spelled the same.
And I feel so bad cause Jaylin Smith not gonna get that many Google searches.
But, I mean, he's on the sons who they 13 looks like.
They're like they went eight, you know, in the bubble trying Chris Paul then got a top 10 pick and had Jaylin Smith.
If we forgot to write down the Chris Paul trade, we'll talk about that later.
But I think the sun's air really going into, like this win now mode, which I really like And I think I mean, obviously Chris Paul's old I mean, Devin Booker is incredible.
They have the pieces to do it. That's the thing.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that it's the problem is like with going into a window moat.
They're not like the best team in the league, if that's the problem.
Like if Kris mean what they they were like if they add some pieces Kevin, we haven't seen even bigger.
That's what I'm saying.
But Calvin, this is the thing.
We haven't seen Devin Booker with someone else on the Chris Paul trade.
Unless Chris Paul can attract other guys to play for Phoenix like.
I don't know if they could push it quite over the, you know, in the bubble.
And this thing that we don't know what Devin Booker is gonna look like with, like with a guy to help him like he's never, ever had anyone to help him.
So maybe Chris Balkan kind of provide a little bit of help to Devin Booker, who already know is incredible and just be that kind of primary ball handler that can maybe allowed Devin Booker to run a little bit more off ball and just find himself more open for the threes without having to do everything itself, because it seemed like he had to make everything for himself.
And then I don't feel like the sons are like even with Chris Paul, even with Devin Booker, it's not like Devin Booker is LeBron James.
Like they don't have the guy, they're making the playoffs.
They're going to make some sort of run.
They might go like two semifinals, but that's the problem.
Like I feel like they need more pieces like, Are you saying you think the sons could make a championship run? Yes, I dio I am well that we might need to tweet this.
This is getting people to watch the show.
Chris thinks the sons will make a championship run this year.
They have to do it this year.
Or else there's not much time left.
Jaylin Smith will make a difference.
But who if they got other than Devin Booker, T.
Warren and Chris Paul? Not really That much, I mean, but, like, I feel like that combination of Devin Booker and Chris Paul is like It reminds me so much of Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.
Yeah, but Clay Thompson Well, I was about to say they never one on their own.
And then I realized how wrong I was.
But it's a different MBA today.
Stars weren't stacking with teams back then when Katie went to the Warriors.
That was just the start of stars, just like going to play with other stars.
Steph Curry and Klay Thompson can't win a title on their own any more.
First of all, because they in the checks Crowder.
They're made of black, but also because they do.
You think the Korean clay can win a title on their own in today's MBA? Mm with a few pieces.
I think they can.
I mean, yes, up.
They're gonna need some Exactly with dream on with.
I don't know what they can.
They could win with that.
And Wiseman they can Maybe with this love.
And here's the thing Pretty well coming Crisp.
You just went all shoot.
You just went on mute again.
I think when you do like when you bump your computer, it does it like that.
How would you just leave it? Leave and join and then yell at me? Okay.
That's really annoying.
I think when Chris bumped his computer, it would've happened.
I don't know why his sound is going out like that.
How is it? It's good, I think when you bump your computer and it does it, Yeah, that's totally weird.
I like, but my computer and then it just, like, freezes all the audio.
When I go into, like, my audio settings or whatever it says that my mike is making noise, right? Mhm.
But then it doesn't play it on the stream.
But you were yelling at me about Chris.
We're having a fun n B A debate.
Right now, we're not talking about NFL for once on this stupid show named Second in Gold Sports talk like nobody's gonna follow this for the N B. A.
Yeah, we call it like, three point sports talk, but, I mean, DeAndre eaten as well on that Suns team.
Oh, I forgot about 18.
Very interesting to see what they dio.
I mean, I'll be honest.
I actually didn't like the trade that much because I felt like they were, because I felt like Chris Paul is too old.
But I think for this season they have a chance to make a championship on, especially if they play like they did.
I mean, they've got a great coach.
He led them to eat no in the Buffalo, they almost made the playoffs after that.
I just think that they have a lot of potential more than any are not any other team, but they're definitely up there with potential.
If Devin Booker is, I don't think what Devin Booker did last season, as sad as it is is ever gonna be enough.
Unless you get someone like Chris Paul and I think that with him, that could either aid him or help him.
I'm worried that there's a possibility that there's kind of a power there's, like a that could either aid him or help him, because I'm worried. I'm worried.
Give him eight or he could help him.
Well, Calvin, but oh, oops, I'm going to say ate him or hurt him But because I feel like there could be a bit of a power struggle, you know, like Devin Booker was always the guy doing everything for the sun.
So I feel like it might be a kind of a weird transition to now.
Listen, have a point guard that's actually capable, but it'll be interesting.
We'll see how things got.
I don't think this is a championship team.
You I forgot about 88 inches of solid player, but like in today's, and it's kind of stupid, like this should be, this should be a championship team.
It just doesn't work that way in this.
In today's MBA, you can't you got.
Unfortunately, you just gotta have the stars like the Nets right now with Wait, let me look at the Net's full lineup with Kyrie k d.
Like the Nets get paid back with.
You realize that James Harden almost went to the Nets? I don't know about almost.
Can you imagine that? Listen to this line.
Okay? Lets up in the air if James Harden goes to the Nets.
We've gotta listen to didn't listen to this lineup.
This is without Harden.
Like without Harden, this team could still contend.
I mean, maybe then the sons can content.
I just don't think they're quite there. They need one.
How about this, Chris? They need one more piece.
I think one more piece they need.
Who do they need? They got poor Zynga's.
If they got Porzingis, there would be a championship team.
Chris, I think that's fair.
Or a championship contender.
They got themselves more thank yous.
Yeah, I think I think they just need one more piece.
But listen to this.
Joe Harris, like these guys, have both proven themselves in their roles.
Like Landry Samatar in Prince Spencer Dinwiddie, Jared Allen, Tyler Johnson Also on the bench, Luke Abarat like those were good pieces.
DeAndre Jordan at center, then k d at power forward.
I mean, Laverty has been so good.
It's gonna be hard to sit in.
I mean, Harris has been good to, hasn't he? Yeah, he's been very good.
They re signed him to Yeah.
If they had a Kyrie, then they have toe bench Laverty for Harden.
Que de DeAndre Jordan.
That's like three like, three of the biggest names.
Plus to, like, really good layers.
And then one like Caris, Levert would win sixth Man of the year, right? Oh, by the way, Wait.
What happened with did Mantra is Harold sign with the Who did he sign with? 00 my or the Lakers.
Harold signed with the Lakers, the sixth man of the year That made me think of that.
Let me write that down.
But I guess we just finished here.
Chris, why don't you Let's just do the biggest free agent news that we could get to college football scores.
So why don't you ****yze Gordon Hayward for us while I write in the I write in the Herald noose? Well, actually, I don't need to write it in.
I guess we already we already talked about it, so I think it's good for the Lakers.
I think you'll have a big role right away.
I mean, this is huge, like just adding mawr and mawr for LeBron James toe work, too.
And if LeBron James is gonna obviously he's the center of that offense.
They can resign Anthony Davis thing.
You've got someone like Montrezl Harrell who can play great defense And who could just be like a nice guy for LeBron James to have options to.
They already won a championship.
Now they have the sixth man of the year.
This team is a This is a loaded team right now.
Yeah, I'm gonna look at the Lakers.
Is that start just and love? How it lists LeBron is point guard.
It was Kyle Kuzma at two positions.
He Kyle Kuzma, is apparently the starter at small and power forward with Anthony Davis, Not there.
What do you think? What? Sorry.
Kyle Kuzma is the starter at two positions on the ESPN demonstrate.
This is really glitch.
It says LeBron at point guard.
Oh, yeah, Let's go, LeBron eyes like.
Okay, LeBron a point guard, er shooters.
That point guard, why is J R.
Smith like fifth string? What? Okay, No, LeBron, no shrewder like Wesley Matthews mantra is Harold, Kyle Kuzma and LeBron.
Oh, no, I forgot about Davis.
So it's LeBron Davis, Kuzma and Harold and then shrewder eso.
Maybe, actually, I think LeBron might actually be point guard in this scenario.
LeBron point guard shooter shooting guard.
The funny thing is, that actually does kind of make several a broader for Davis, like LeBron's size doesn't make it a point guard, But it's skill does like like he was saying, I'm still good at passing like That's the thing LeBron like isn't quite a skilled as he once Waas because he's kind of old, you know, like LeBron.
He's been aging, but his passing has been, like, noticeably improved, like I mean, shrewder.
I don't mind it point guard with that offense, but like I think LeBron like, that's where you gotta put him.
If you want to start your your five guys, that's where you put him.
This team just doesn't have as much Depth is like the Nets.
Yeah, it's so nice that the Nets were able to develop guys like Liver and Joe Harris.
Now that they have, they have, like, Oh, yeah, thanks, Joe Harris to my You know, Caris.
Levert's on the bench.
He's the sixth man of the year ago.
Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, Joe Harris.
Oh, my Andre Jordan.
And then who are they signing again? Name or no? And then liver would start.
No, this is all then, Assistant Harden know if Harden goes there, then lover, it's on the bench.
Liver? It's not on the bench right now.
Oh, my hardened goes there.
I wonder how liver it will feel about being the fifth option.
That's going to be tough.
Or maybe, uh, I don't know, like Harris.
But, um, man, I see there's a lot going on in the chat.
Chris, is that what you're dealing with right now? Yeah, I've been trying to ignore it.
I'm getting texts, and I feel like I feel bad for ignoring them.
So could you just cover for me to talk about Gordon Hayward for a little bit? Because I have a show, and then we can We can do it later.
Okay? Okay, fine.
Yeah, We gotta be professional.
And this has been a very fun show.
We actually gotta get thio college football.
So let's just NFL like, look, up the schedule.
Who won last night? I'm an idiot who won Cardinals or Seattle Seahawks.
Seahawks won last night against the Cardinals.
Look up the score.
Look up the schedule.
You could configure out 28 21.
Okay, Yeah. The score is right there.
Look up the schedule.
We're talking college football in MBA.
You get enough fantasy if they do to fantasy football shows a week on the second goal fantasy podcast.
All right? Anyway, Gordon Hayward signs with the Hornets.
He will play with Lemelle.
Oh, ball! Four years, 120 mil.
And I really like this Lemelle Oh, get someone to pass to.
And now let's let's look at the Hornet's depature.
But, Chris, what do you think about this? Oh, I mean, the Hornets are putting together a nice team.
Just sign with them.
So that's literally what I was just talking about.
Let's not deal with the chat deals with the chat.
Okay, Look, Kevin, it's going away.
That was the sign of it. Didn't toss away.
Oh, I thought you were try to remove the sound on four. We focused.
Okay, that's disgusting.
All right, anyway.
But the Hornets have got.
They've actually, I guess Devonte Graham and Romelo ball ball will take over pretty soon.
He'll be like Lonza wasn't even that good.
Like or no, he's good, but he's just not that great.
You know, Lonzo, it's really developed.
I mean, everyone thought he was a big boss, but he's been He was good last year, but he's not like the star that people expected, though.
Still like Oh my God! I mean, he was the number one, so I don't know.
Yeah, All right.
Um, Terry Rozier Malik Monk at shooting guard Gordon Hayward, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, then Cody Zeller I like this team's depth.
I love how Bismack beyond Bo is still with Charlotte.
Like he was like, I feel like whenever I looked at the Charlotte Bobcats back when they were the Bobcats and they were horrible, it was like beyond Bo was like their best player.
E can't believe he's still there.
No disrespect, but like this guy is not really that good.
You know what makes the Hornets team even better? Is that you? Oh, yeah.
MJ can play for them if needed.
I'm Jay might honestly be better than like then, like a few there.
Who was it that said they could be M J in a one on one? Like currently I Was that LaVar ball? Yeah, LaVar ball LaVar Ball said that if you have a with that like you, I was like Good if you guys were curious without dabbling too much into politics, LaVar Ball says that Donald Trump would have won the election.
Uh, if they didn't have their 2017 feud.
Whatever you think about the election going on now, it's not because of love.
LaVar Ball, that any of this happening, you Calvin world, we can agree on that. We could all agree on that.
Yeah, the entire world revolves around LaVar ball, the ultimate, the kind of the ultimate.
Yeah, there's there's the president.
And then there's the ultimate president.
Yeah, LaVar ball is actually more important, really runs everything.
Like if you have a feud with him. 24.
It's his campaign slogan.
He's certainly old enough.
Hey, fits the requirements, technically, all right.
Anyway, that honestly seems like a LaVar ball thing to Dio Levar, 2024.
Like honestly, LeVar and Kanye West kind of remind me of each other.
We can vote in 2024.
Just saying, Oh yeah, I'm waiting for war.
Vote for love are all right anyway.
Who else signed? Fred Vanvleet gets four years.
85 million with the Raptors When he was on Wichita State, I remember him and Clay Anthony early, just tearing it up.
And he's been so good in the N b A.
Like Fred Vanvleet is just like that, that hard worker kind of guy like maybe he's not the most talented.
He is pretty talented, like he just works and works and works and works.
And he went from like a smaller college and then came to the NBN.
No, he started as a reserve, and now he's gets 85 mil over four years.
Nobody deserves it more than Fred Vanvleet.
Yeah, I mean, pregnant Lee.
He was clutched up in the playoffs. He's good.
He's good in the big moments.
I mean, he's never been the consistent like star or player that's going to lead a team, but he's a nice piece tohave, and I think that any team that has him is gonna be happy, no matter if they already have.
Ah, roll filled for him.
Like, if you're Golden State Warriors and you already have Steph Curry.
I mean, you could still use a Fred brand because of how good he is in the playoffs.
He's gonna knock down shots in the big moments.
And that's I think, the main reason behind them signing him. Yeah.
I mean, when he made his, he got good experience with Wichita State in terms of knocking down shots.
He was there when that 32 A No season, I think.
When that crazy to using.
I thought you through your phone away. Why you? Mm.
Chris, did you re gather your phone again? No.
Well, I know it's my lighting is so bad.
Let me plug in a lamp or something, okay? I mean, we need a Let's count.
I just had a good idea.
I'll use my iPad to light up the area.
Let's leave six minutes for college football.
Okay? See Kevin looking now I can be in four minutes.
Actually, 50 48 minutes will be the MBA.
Six minutes for technical difficulties.
How does college football field for having the same amount of minutes given to it in our show as literally technical difficulties? I'm not talking about the NFL at all.
Whoa, Mr Specter, Ghost stories.
Let me tell you about a story for my child.
Whoa. You have an apple iPod.
Anyway, dear Erin Fox got like, there haven't been many max contract, which makes a lot of sense during this year.
But deer and Fox got one.
That's how good he is.
This guy is like a ball or five years 163 mil.
I would say that Supermax over.
Except it isn't.
Well, Cabinet has a chance to reach a Supermax too.
Yeah, well, maybe it's a little bit over paying.
He's a good player, and the Kings don't really have many of those.
Gallinari got his deal.
We talked about that.
Like Dragic has just been consistent throughout his career with Tyler, Hero and bam out of bio over that the the Miami like he was really, really, really, really, really like, very solid, very good.
Like Fred Van actually is not really the same type of players. Fred Van Plea.
But, um, Avery Bradley went to the Lakers is a depth option.
Davis Burton got five years.
80 mil for Washington.
Malik Beasley got 40 years.
62 mil for the T Wolves.
Let's go to trades.
Chris Paul traded to the sons.
We talked about that.
We talked about the uber trade a little bit because I think you pray.
I mean, he's really has blossomed in his young career.
But I mean the thunder.
We didn't talk about this trade.
The thunder treated Danny Green for Al Horford.
Ah, first and a second rounder from Wednesday's draft.
I was impressed with that trade because, I mean, while Al Horford is old, he's still a solid player.
And I mean, it's hard to over pay for such a good player.
Is Danny Green? But I feel like, uh, like, who did the trade? They trade into the clip.
Wait many green.
Um, why did I forget? I'm so stupid.
He got traded from the thunder to are.
What's going on? Why can't I find this? There's nothing going on about it.
Let's see what the deal. Waas it.
He was traded to the Sixers.
Now Horford was on the Sixers.
I'm not really seeing what? I don't understand why there wasn't much to talk about this on the Internet.
Well, I mean, there was on Twitter, but not like on the Internet. Yeah.
He's the Sixers Air trading.
Horford a first in a second for Danny Green.
And I mean, it's like the Sixers.
Who else did they over pay for recently? I mean, they paid Tobias Harris.
I don't know if that's necessarily and over pay, but like they are giving, they've been giving out a lot of contracts lately.
Didn't they pay JJ Red**** to like you can't pay everybody? I mean, I guess they're not really paying Danny Green, but nobody gotta He gotta contract in me.
Horford had a massive over pay on his contract, so I think that they were really It's the guy they traded away their over pay.
I think that's what maybe makes it worth it for the Sixers.
But I think the thunder also got a good deal because the Sixers did need to get rid that contract.
All right, well, let's just, you know, the 60 I'm gonna read.
Actually, I'm gonna read off the NFL schedule and then we'll do college football scores.
So, like we said, the Seahawks won 28 21 on Thursday.
Steelers, Jaguars, Lions, Panthers, Patriots, Texan Titans Ravens, Eagles.
Brown's Falcon Saints Bangles Washington All at one oclock Tomorrow four or five, the atom gazes versus the Chargers.
The Jets, um Dolphins and Broncos for 25 Cowboys.
Colts Chiefs Ravens at 8 20 Rams and Bucks at Monday Night Football.
All times Eastern.
Um, let's head over to CFB scores.
We got a lot of that, and I think we just got a new follow whoever that was.
Thank you very much.
Um, anyway, can I find it? Can I find it? N.
C A dot com is the best source for that, so there were some postponed games this week, but on Wednesday, Ball State beat Northern Illinois 31 25 Western Michigan beat Central Michigan 50 to 44.
Toledo be Eastern Michigan 45 28.
Tulsa beat two Lane and two overtimes, 32 24 on Thursday.
On Friday, Louisville Shutout.
I would say Syracuse, It's Syracuse 32.
Minnesota beat Purdue 34 31. Florida Atlantic.
This is kind of funny.
Chris Florida Atlantic beat Massachusetts 24 to 2.
Imagine that you're only points.
A safety nooner near Union near an Air Force shut out New Mexico 28 Zip.
See, that's what you get for not being a military academy.
Buffalo beat Bowling Green, 42 17.
Kent State be Akron's 69 35.
Getting at many points.
UM, let's see from today.
Virginia beat Abilene Christian 55 15.
Pittsburgh beat Virginia Tech 47 14.
Middle Tennessee beat Troy 2017.
Georgia State beat South Alabama 31 14.
Iowa beat Penn State 41 21.
Oregon State beat California 31 27.
Nevada beat San Diego State 26 21.
You TSA beat Southern Mississippi 23 20.
Western Kentucky beat F I U 38 21 North Texas beat Rice 27 17.
Texas State beat Arkansas State 47 45.
East Carolina beat Temple 28 to 3.
Illinois beat Nebraska 41 to 23.
Memphis beat SF A Stephen F.
Austin 56 of 14 Army West Point.
It says that on the NCS, it just Army well, of course, located at this point.
Beat Georgia Southern 28 27 ls you beat Arkansas 27 14.
17th ranked Iowa State beat Kansas State 45.
I think this is the first time in in college football history that Iowa State has won a game.
They always upset teams to get ranked and then lose the team's denying Be honestly, that would be the worst.
To be a fan of a team like that, You're just like, Oh my gosh, let's go.
This is the year were finally could be finally upset someone and they're just like, Oh, we're gonna lose now.
Oh, Coastal Carolina.
The Shanta clear stayed undefeated, gave Appalachian State their second loss, 34 to 23.
Shanteau clears shot a clear shot at talk clears.
Northwestern beat Wisconsin 17 to 7 that was an upset.
Oregon B U C L A.
38 35 to stand defeated.
BYU destroyed North Alabama, 66 14, and Cincinnati, who has like the toughest schedule of any group of five team I've ever seen.
Florida beat Vanderbilt 48.
You see Ohio State.
Ohio State escaped against Indiana, 42 35.
Indiana's quarterback, I think through for like 500 yards, which is absolutely ridiculous.
Um, Alabama beat Kentucky 63 to 63 to three.
Later tonight, we got Arizona and Washington.
Boise State in Hawaii, USC 20th ranked versus Utah and in progress.
Right now, Mississippi State's actually beating Georgia with five or to go in the first three. Nothing.
Bennett over there.
Oklahoma's beating Oklahoma State early in the first quarter. Seven to nothing.
They got early touchdown.
Liberty N C State all knotted up zero in the first quarter.
Right now, 22nd ranked Liberty, 24th ranked Auburn down 10.
Nothing to Tennessee early in the second quarter.
10 to nothing Tennessee.
Trying to redeem himself after their rough patch lately, Michigan and Rutgers, Missouri and South Carolina both scoreless.
And that is Oh, my gosh, that took a lot of effort out of me.
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Kevin, what was our fantasy football trade? Go? I don't know.
I'm busy right now.
Uh, our trade waas Erin Jones and Chris Scotland for Oh, wait, There's actually a lot more players.
We did a massive trade, guys.
Port Calvin Calvin traded for Joe mixing guys.
But I also got Giovani Bernard in the deal. It's okay.
Yeah, yeah, I know, but it is kind of unlucky for you that you happen to get, uh, mixing right for one Twitter followers.
All right, well, if you have any questions, but in the chat got 400 Twitter followers.
I'm a god. Everything.
If you have over 400 Twitter followers, you're a good person.
That's what I like to say.
Watch someone unfollowed me to get to 400.
And if you have under 400 tablets you have under 400.
You're a great person.
Well, I see what you did there.
You tried to make yourself seem better than me, but I don't really appreciate it, because I don't think that zem better than me.
Just I'm just confirming it.
Like, I mean, I'm just e already knows I'm the best fantasy ****ysts out there.
Calvin is, uh I would say you're you know, I was gonna say close runner up, but it's really not close.
No, I was gonna say that you were, like, a little bit below average, probably, but, like, not that far below, like, just far enough below average investments.
And then you give me a bridge where people respect E Calvin a runner up and coming in below average? No, only slightly like, and it's a little bit below average, but people still, like, somewhat respect to you, like, you know what it's like.
You're kind, the men, and you're sort of respected because you kind of try, But it's like you're just a little bit below average, like it's if you had to pick, I don't think you would.
Oh, Brad Wanamaker signed with the warriors.
According Toa Woche Adrian Jordanovski.
Well, Danowski imagine.
Like having being, like named, having something named after you like woes.
Bombs? Would that be so cool? What if they were like Calvin bombs? That would be cool.
Making my name really long so that I could be like, Whoa, Mom, would you? Nasty bomb by case.
But no, We have 30 seconds left, you idiots.
Now we actually have 21 2019.
Uh, we actually did not play any of our recordings of each other for this episode.
This show this was a good show.
Just look at the questioned.
You can understand where I'm coming from on the chat.
Um uh, we have something to deal with right now.
Guys, I'm sorry.
And we just had our our mark.
We'll see you and Chris.
I'm gonna call you, okay? Okay.
I'm gonna call you to deal with this crisis by