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00:00:19
Welcome to SportsCastr.
00:00:21
I'm Lawrence O on this is coleslaw.
00:00:23
And today I've got Jonathan Barnett, who is in a big Packers fan, then a Packers fan his whole life.
00:00:32
Hey, Jonathan, man, can you please give my listeners and viewers a little bit of the information about yourself? What you do where they could find you? Things of that nature? Absolutely.
00:00:45
Uh, I do the Scotty Johnny podcast.
00:00:48
We talk all Wisconsin sports, Which is why I've got my badger hockey.
00:00:52
Um, does you in Indiana? I mean, we fight.
00:00:55
We got a big win this weekend over Notre Dame, but we talk all Wisconsin sports, mostly packers, mostly badgers, football.
00:01:02
But we bring in a little bit about your hockey badger basketball.
00:01:05
Marquette, which is the little brother of Wisconsin sports for the most part.
00:01:09
Bucks and brewers and all that stuff.
00:01:11
But mostly Packer centric.
00:01:13
Um, so we're on anywhere you find podcasts.
00:01:16
Um, I run that with a friend of mine I hosted.
00:01:19
He's my co host.
00:01:20
His name is Aaron Flat.
00:01:22
Um, he goes at cheddar talk on Twitter.
00:01:25
Um, he's our trash talker every now and then, um, he's a bit of a twitter troll every now and then, too.
00:01:30
But he's hilarious about it.
00:01:31
He's not mean spirited.
00:01:33
We met in the Army, and we've been good friends for had over a decade.
00:01:38
At this point, I suppose, um, way both served in Iraq together.
00:01:42
And now we do sports podcasting together.
00:01:45
You can find that podcast anywhere you find podcasts.
00:01:48
I also do some writing for Acme Packing Company, which is a SB nation blawg spot.
00:01:53
Um, I've done some stuff, other places, but it kind of pulled back a little bit on the writing.
00:01:58
Um, I am a member of the Fantasy Sports Writers Association, and you can follow me on Twitter at not so humble host, because that is how I start.
00:02:06
I have not the humble host of a little not so humble, but that's mostly for show.
00:02:11
Thank you for having me.
00:02:12
We had you on ours.
00:02:13
Uh, just yesterday.
00:02:14
So a little turnabout is fair play here, I guess.
00:02:18
Well, you know what? I actually enjoyed myself quite a bit, So I'm very happy that you came on here to join me toe.
00:02:27
Just get the Colts fans a little bit understanding about what's going on.
00:02:31
What they can expect in this Packers game Sunday.
00:02:34
But, yeah, when you when you talk about the guy who your co host, who likes to talk a little bit of smack Oh my God, didn't he have the Packers? He said.
00:02:41
He said the Packers were going to smack the Colts down.
00:02:44
I don't know.
00:02:45
He definitely said was gonna be a high scoring game.
00:02:47
I think he said something like 34 21 or 34 24.
00:02:51
Something in that range.
00:02:53
I'm not nearly that conference.
00:02:55
Could be that high scoring.
00:02:56
I think I picked something like 14 10 or something along those lines because, um, tell me that Colt defense just scares me.
00:03:05
It really does.
00:03:06
And, uh, Colts running game scares me, controls the game, and they can get Aaron frustrated.
00:03:13
There's times that he just has that look about him, and you're just worried you're gonna see that when you're on my side of the ball E stands, I guess.
00:03:21
Well, one thing that has been a parent since Frank right, came in, uh, to the head coaching spot of the Colts is he is not afraid to go for it.
00:03:30
He went for it on fourth down five times against the Titans, converting three of them.
00:03:37
One of the times he went for fourth and one basically at the goal line and failed.
00:03:42
But turn around, you know, was great.
00:03:44
We got the bad shanked punt and then end up walking in for a touchdown anyhow.
00:03:50
But he's been unafraid since he stepped in in the playoff game against the Oilers and e for it.
00:03:58
I don't care.
00:03:59
Yeah, I got to lose e 28 points.
00:04:03
Ain't nothing for me.
00:04:04
Well, come back.
00:04:05
Hey, eso! But yeah, being that he is one of those guys who who is not afraid to take chances and roll the dice and uses ****ytics pretty much for just about everything that he does on the field when it comes to play calling.
00:04:23
Is that a situation where green based not used to seeing where there, You know, you might have someone stopped at their own 45 with two yards or three yards to go and see them go for it.
00:04:35
And if so, or if not, how would How do you think? Um, Green Bay would respond to something like that? That's an interesting point.
00:04:44
I guess the hardest part for the Packers on that is that the run game is particularly the terrible for this defense.
00:04:50
It's It's the worst part of this team entirely.
00:04:53
Um, it's better with Kenny Clarke on the field than without, um, but that's the part is, it's most likely to be fourth.
00:04:59
In short, you go with the ****ytical fourth and ones you converted most of the time.
00:05:04
The idea that we will stop you don't Heinz or Taylor Getting a yard is not something that particularly excited about in terms of that.
00:05:14
Both these teams, I think, are fairly ****ytical with that.
00:05:17
I think I saw just this last week.
00:05:19
Um Paul Newman, who writes for Acme packing as well, and a couple other sites.
00:05:23
He's, Ah, Badger Noonan on Twitter.
00:05:26
He was putting up something about in terms of the times when you should go on fourth down.
00:05:31
****ytically, the Packers go 100% of the time.
00:05:34
The bills go 100% of the time.
00:05:35
I think the culture up there, too.
00:05:37
I think we're going to see a lot of these forced down and ones you don't have to 50 or 40 or whatever.
00:05:44
They're gonna go for it.
00:05:45
Both teams this game, I think, and that's I think it will actually benefit both teams.
00:05:49
It will increase.
00:05:50
It might increase the scoring, I guess.
00:05:52
Although I still don't I'm still picking 14 10 form.
00:05:57
Well, I mean, yeah, going forward at the fifth.
00:06:01
He's not terrible because that's just like giving up.
00:06:04
Ah, good.
00:06:05
Even if you don't get it's like giving up a good kick off return or something, you know, it's it's not terrible.
00:06:12
The team still has to roll 40 to 60 yards in order to get their touchdown anyhow, and it's the ****ytics say you do it especially depending on the score and the time of the game.
00:06:26
But yeah, it z one of those things where now they're just like you said Raich and LaFleur and guys like Shanahan and them that they like the numbers, they're going through the numbers and they're like, this is the number that we should work with.
00:06:38
This is the number we should change.
00:06:40
And this Yeah, they're definitely both coaches who will go for it in that situation.
00:06:45
Speaking of LaFleur, uh, your opinion difference between him and McCarthy McCarthy so many times.
00:06:55
The biggest thing I'd say with the car you think back to my podcast is, um McCarthy loved his system and try to fit people into the system.
00:07:05
And there's some of that with a little bit, much less.
00:07:08
He's more willing to find guys and find ways to use those guys he definitely drafted.
00:07:13
Or at least got gotten Koontz on board, which we love to point out.
00:07:16
Gotten ****s means good art.
00:07:18
Um, Guten, who's definitely is on board with drafting the people he wanted.
00:07:22
We got the guara and we got Dylan and we got you know, we got eight back.
00:07:26
We got a big running back, and really, we're not really going to use them this year that much.
00:07:31
Then dig where I got hurt, too.
00:07:33
But it's like they're definitely on board with trying to get guys to his system.
00:07:37
But he usually guys he has for the time being.
00:07:40
Ah, they're very different systems.
00:07:42
McCarthy was almost no motion.
00:07:46
He was.
00:07:47
Lineup was from the play.
00:07:48
He did a lot of stretch, the field sorts of things, the number of times where it's like fourth or like 35 or something like that, and nobody turns to look for the ball until they're at least 10 yards downfield.
00:07:59
They're like, you know, they're blitzing, right? Like you have to know they're blitzing.
00:08:03
It's a past situation.
00:08:05
The ball is gonna have to come out, and nobody's even looking and used to drive me crazy.
00:08:10
LaFleur generally runs that sort of thing a lot like what you're used to with what Tennessee does, because Leffler was there in Tennessee.
00:08:16
It's the same type of idea they have.
00:08:18
Um, you bring that tight end back across the formation, using the H back power on toe lead to play action.
00:08:27
It's a lot of crossing around a lot of intermediates, using the middle of the field on Ben every now that he's gonna take a shot because he's got Aaron Rodgers, he's going to take four or five shots a game.
00:08:37
So it's trying to play tendencies, and the biggest point of what they're trying to do is go big to allow themselves to run the ball in power style, but also allow the pass options.
00:08:50
You know, ton iun um, having Jones and Williams on the field same time, those sorts of things even Stern Berger, who he takes himself off the field because he can't block.
00:09:01
You know it's allowing you have those options to pass out of heavy situations.
00:09:05
And so it's very different than the 3 to 4 wide constant that we always had with McCarthy and Rogers under center.
00:09:12
A lot more now, too.
00:09:13
So it's a different concept, and I like it a lot more because Rodgers is just better when he gets the ball in his hands fast.
00:09:21
Because if he thinks that the big plays there, he's definitely going big play.
00:09:26
Well, that's that's there.
00:09:27
You have no argument where any fan in the NFL I'm sure they been alive longer than three years.
00:09:34
They know Aaron Rodgers tendencies, Um, but the whole not liking to use motion, that really seems like it hurts veteran quarterbacks the most because they can use that motion toe.
00:09:47
Find out.
00:09:48
Hey, is this defense running? Man? Is this defense running zone? Is there gonna be a double on somebody? What am I looking at on this defense? Motion really kind of opens up what the defense is looking like to that quarterback, and he's ableto move guys around and adjust as he needs at the line of scrimmage in order to make it offensive play.
00:10:08
That's best for that defense that he sees.
00:10:10
So absolutely.
00:10:13
I'm now I completely understand why Aaron Rodgers, Uh, it's just not his come back here, you know, ****ed off.
00:10:21
Hey, you know, you drafted somebody because I'm sorry, That's what everybody that I'm around has said that this is this is his f you year.
00:10:29
You drafted a quarterback first round instead of giving me help? Uh, yeah, but, you know, I mean, yeah, this with him being able to read the defense and him being in the league is long as he has that motion helps him out a ton, and it's got to be like, uh, like, a savings or like something coming out there and just being like a fresh new day for him, Uh, going out there and be able to do that the second tier, like when you start off like McCarthy didn't do it at all.
00:11:00
There's that tear like you talk about where you want to start using motion because it starts showing with safety.
00:11:05
They're gonna move who's who's actually covering whom and like, if they're in that man set up, or if they're how they're shifting or guy follows across or do they move around? Secondarily, LaFleur goes to that next level where he used his motion to create open spaces he used set up and you watch Andy Reid throw the best at it.
00:11:25
You know, you use that motion to create, um, space for your receivers, and that's that next level and we're not.
00:11:32
He's not doing it like Andy Reid, but he's it's It's two levels past where we were with McCarthy in terms of that, all right, you mentioned that you don't have a whole lot of faith in your run defense.
00:11:45
However, you do have a lot of faith in your past defense, and the Colts have got some rhythm going in their passing game the past few weeks with some guys coming back like Michael Pittman.
00:11:58
Uh, guys getting healthy like T y Hilton.
00:12:01
Things of that nature water, some matchups defensively for Green Bay that you like in the passing game against Indianapolis.
00:12:11
The passing in the first thing that we do like is that our corners are definitely very good.
00:12:14
Uh, this last week against Jacksonville We were missing one and two.
00:12:18
Gyr Alexander was still recovering from a concussion, released concussion, symptoms, everything.
00:12:23
And, uh, Kevin King had injury as well, so he was not in there.
00:12:28
I haven't able to see you know it's Tuesday.
00:12:31
No, he's practiced yet, so we don't have really anything in terms of much of an injury report on them.
00:12:36
My guess is it looks like they're on pace.
00:12:38
The Packers are notoriously the most contrary to whatever Martellus Bennett lies about the most conservative team in terms of holding players back to get them back on the field at 100%.
00:12:50
And that's even Stephania Bell on ESPN has said that repeatedly, Um, so if we have gyre Alexander, that's the biggest one because he has been against several really great writer secret throughout this year, and he has been able to keep them very, very minimal.
00:13:07
And I don't know where they'll put him if they wanted to try to keep on.
00:13:09
If t y is healthy, if they wanna put him there or if they're looking to keep him on Pittman.
00:13:15
Um, using size advantage is Kevin King is a much larger cornerback.
00:13:20
He's very fast, Very good.
00:13:21
He's just not completely a shutdown type of Guayas J areas.
00:13:25
I believe Jr.
00:13:26
Right now, pro football.
00:13:27
Um, focus has him is the number one rated cornerback in football, so having him on the field changes the defense.
00:13:35
The thing that makes it harder for the Packers in the past game is that Mike Patton has stopped being inventive.
00:13:41
Mike Patton has decided that he's just going to rush three, and every now and then four very rarely brings 1/5.
00:13:48
And, yeah, it's massively frustrating for a team like this.
00:13:52
Were like he's almost become too dependent on the fact that the Packers to put a lot of capital into that defense.
00:13:58
He's like, I have a most back there and I have gyre and King.
00:14:02
And then, you know, I've got the Smiths on the outside and in Kenny Clarke up the middle, and they'll just get pass rush on their own.
00:14:09
So I'll just bring the Smith and Clark and we'll be good. Really.
00:14:12
No, no, you can't do that, Andi, with something like Philip Rivers, who is not going to run away from you, Um, he's not running for the first time he's now scrambling to do much other than hoping to get away to throw.
00:14:24
I mean, he's not terrible scrambling in the pocket, but he's not gonna break one on you and you want to get after him.
00:14:33
And so I would love to see them do more.
00:14:35
Um, Christian Kirksey had been hurt for a while.
00:14:38
He was back last week, seeing him in there if we could blitz him.
00:14:42
Chris Barnes, the very talented rookie who we've got at linebackers, well, who's been playing very well this year.
00:14:49
I mean, I'd like to see them come on blitzes more frequently.
00:14:52
We've run three only corner blitz I can think of at this point is gyre Alexander against the Vikings, and that was a mistake.
00:14:59
He read, run and went to fill, and it was a past play, and he just decided to get the safety.
00:15:04
It was it was a fluke accident.
00:15:06
He didn't call it, um, patents become too safe.
00:15:10
And the thing I'm worried about in the passing game is yeah, we've got the guys back there to cover, especially if Kirksey is healthy, which he seems to be now.
00:15:18
Knock on wood for today.
00:15:20
But you can't.
00:15:22
You can only cover for so long.
00:15:23
We've gotta actually get after the quarterback, which we have the players to do it.
00:15:26
You got the horses to run with it.
00:15:27
You just got to actually do it.
00:15:29
Yeah, inventive.
00:15:31
And it's frustrating in that regard.
00:15:33
Well, when you said that you were down your two top corners against Jacksonville and and and still and still one kept Jake Lutton 170 yards, a touchdown and interception now granted it.
00:15:45
It's letting but still down down two starters and still be able to hold a new NFL quarterback.
00:15:54
Whether he's good or not, he's still NFL caliber quarterback down 270 yards.
00:16:00
Eyes actually. Semi impressive.
00:16:02
Um, well, I depth corner.
00:16:04
I mean, Josh Jackson is the third guy there.
00:16:07
And Chandran Sullivan Both are both very good corners.
00:16:12
You don't wanna have to roll them is your one and two.
00:16:15
But I mean, Josh Jackson could be your two.
00:16:17
He really could be a two on a lot of teams, and we're rolling with both of them at at three and four at this point, and that's that's a luxury the Packers do have is young good corners, and they're going to pay for some of them very soon, unfortunately.
00:16:30
Or let some of them go and figure it out again.
00:16:33
Well, believe me, Indianapolis understands happen to pay for young guys.
00:16:36
I mean, we got Nelson and Leonard and all these guys that are coming up at the end of this year.
00:16:43
You talk about how many people are like, Well, the Colts have all this extra cap space.
00:16:48
Yeah, Bowel is trying to save it because he's got big money.
00:16:52
That's gotta He's gotta pay.
00:16:53
Right? Um, Man, you say that you don't blitz very much.
00:16:57
You run three or four man pressures, and that's it.
00:17:01
That will be one of the biggest relaxing moments.
00:17:05
And Philip Rivers for the last month.
00:17:08
Because Tennessee loves to blitz Baltimore before them loved blitzing.
00:17:14
I think them in the Steelers to the two highest blitzing teams in the NFL.
00:17:18
Right, Right outside of maybe San Francisco.
00:17:20
So, uh, this will be, ah, luxury when you have that kind of an offensive line that India has, India has a you know, a top five, top three.
00:17:29
Some will argue top one offensive line in the league and If you're only sending three guys, that's final.
00:17:37
It's not gonna work because, I mean, when you got a veteran quarterback, he's gonna find the hole somewhere in your defense sooner or later.
00:17:43
So for four seconds doesn't work in the NFL.
00:17:46
No, the other guys get paid too.
00:17:48
Exactly.
00:17:49
Exactly.
00:17:50
Um So what are you expecting from your run game this week against what is considered to be, Ah, pretty good run defense, as opposed to what the Packers have? Yeah, and we have good running backs.
00:18:06
I mean, obviously, you know, Erin Jones has been fantastic.
00:18:10
The biggest thing for him is that he's not just a running back.
00:18:12
He's very valuable in the past game, which, you know, Indianapolis knows a lot about both your running backs, or I believe it's 1st and 4th in receptions on your team at this point.
00:18:22
So it's It's something where Aaron Jones is very available that way.
00:18:25
Um, also, I mean, Jamal Williams is a really good pass catcher.
00:18:30
Um, we have consistently been asking on a show to have both of them on the on the field, same time, um, with doing the same thing with India.
00:18:37
I'm like please put Johnson, Taylor and the him Heinz on the field the same time and let Rivers run a really, really good lord.
00:18:45
It's a weird matchup, e think, too.
00:18:47
Wide receiver in the running backs in the field, who will run wheel routes or will motion out wide on like I got to run a linebacker out there now and then run with it.
00:18:58
You know, it's like it's it's it's a it's a matchup thing.
00:19:01
And that's something that, you know, you figured these next level NFL guy should be thinking about, and the floor has been doing it a lot more.
00:19:07
He's done it plenty of times this year where he's got both in the backfield.
00:19:11
There have been times, literally, this year, where they have both of them in the backfield, one of them with, like, motion out wide and then also Tyler.
00:19:19
Irvin's on the field, whose little scatback he's not.
00:19:23
He's never gonna be your starter, but he's a good return guy.
00:19:26
And that jet motion, um, you can get him open or you can get him in that pass route off there.
00:19:31
Or you could just hand him the ball.
00:19:33
There's things you can do there.
00:19:35
They've been invented that way.
00:19:37
The running game.
00:19:38
The Packers also have a pretty good offensive line.
00:19:41
They got very lucky and getting Elton Jenkins, who's, you know, he's not Quinton Nelson in any way, but he's a very nice guard and tackle some.
00:19:51
He might end up going to tackle at some point to, but he's a He's a big guy and he's got an attitude, which I love.
00:19:58
Seeing Bachtiar.
00:19:59
He just got his big deal now, so he's, uh he's amped up and ready to go on.
00:20:04
He's good as there is at left tackle.
00:20:06
Uh huh.
00:20:07
The having Billy Billy Turner out there, too, is nice.
00:20:12
But, I mean, he's somebody would like to Seymour out of.
00:20:15
He had to phantom penalties this last week, which were just unbearable.
00:20:21
The Packers can run.
00:20:23
The problem we had this last week is they were so massively un inventive in how they did it.
00:20:29
Ah, lot of what you're going to see is that stuff where we bring the Titan is going to go opposite to run the run pattern, you know, as if he's gonna pick up in case you're charging hard down the line.
00:20:39
He's going to get that.
00:20:40
You're gonna try to run towards that tackle spot, possibly away from the H back half the time, or possibly use the H back to lead block through there.
00:20:49
So seeing Tun Yin come downhill or seeing him come back across the back there to fill in and allow those cutback lanes is what we want to be able to dio.
00:20:59
It's going to be a hard role.
00:21:00
I mean, the Colt defense is really, really good, and like I said, that's the thing that bothers me the most about this game.
00:21:06
The Packers have looked good on this against a lot of pretty decent defense is we've done well against, you know, the Vikings have very good active linebackers, but that's them.
00:21:17
And then Harrison Smith are about the only thing they have.
00:21:20
That front line is not particularly great.
00:21:23
Cold front line is better way.
00:21:26
Still, remember, um Forest Buckner from the 40 Niners twice last year? And that is the biggest bugaboo in the Packers is thinking about those two games from last year's is the only things that kept the South Super Bowls those two games? Yeah, yeah, we we play a lot of a lot of teams with good offensive lines, and I think that's the reason why the Colts got divorced.
00:21:47
Buckner was because we had good young guys with Justin Houston also, but we didn't have that dominant three Tech.
00:21:55
And the way Matt refuses defense runs is you need to get pressure with that front for you definitely need to get pressure up the middle.
00:22:04
Which means the three tech is so important.
00:22:07
And that's why they went out and the and they put their cards on the table and says, We'll take Buckner and it's been working really well for Indy.
00:22:14
Speaking of the front line Indianapolis cultures getting back somebody this week Actually, Kemoko Turay.
00:22:22
Uh, he's been injured a lot.
00:22:24
You might not even know who he is.
00:22:26
Um, you know.
00:22:28
He was the highest rated Pff pass rushing defensive lineman last year until he went out in Week five due to an injury against Kansas City, broke his ankle in like two places.
00:22:40
He's just now coming back from that, but he brings something and all the coaches and stuff.
00:22:48
They all say that he looks as good, if not better, than what he did before he got his ankle broke.
00:22:53
Um, he's been working with Robert Mathis on his moves and stuff right off the side.
00:23:00
Um, he brings something to the Colts defense that they don't normally have, and that's a lot of speed and bend off the edge.
00:23:09
I don't want you guys adding more to that defense.
00:23:11
That's the one thing that the Colts have lacked this season is Speed and Bend right and Kemoko.
00:23:20
Now, granted, he's just coming back off the publicist, and he'll probably be on the pitch count.
00:23:25
Third, you know your your third and long passing situation stuff.
00:23:30
Um, yeah, I got a riel.
00:23:36
Do you guys leave your running backs and tight ends in, Ah, lot for extra protection against Rogers because in the occasionally will bring, um, that extra linebacker or ah, secondary guy like Kenny, More like from the nickel slots things of that nature.
00:23:58
Do you guys keep guys in, or do you just like, throw them out there and let Aaron Rodgers find them? Even if there's a blitz, we'll keep the running backs infrequently.
00:24:08
Tight ends less so every now and then they will, especially if it's done yet, but I mean, they want to get those tight ends involved in the game.
00:24:17
The biggest way the Packers air trying to deal with fast pass rush or pass rush in general is the ball needs to come on quickly.
00:24:25
It's hard to get a pass rush in two seconds.
00:24:27
If you can get the ball, make the read, get it out.
00:24:30
That's been the most effective way to make sure that Roger stands upright and it's been he's throwing probably the fastest I've seen him since, like the Super Bowl year, Um, the last several years.
00:24:43
The couple things with Rodgers is he doesn't want to throw picks.
00:24:46
He hates it, and I don't know if it's from watching far.
00:24:50
Just throw them every other play.
00:24:52
But I mean, like, he's got a massive aversion to throwing picks and he doesn't want to do it, so he will hold the ball longer.
00:24:57
He takes sacks to avoid it.
00:25:00
Um, and he does.
00:25:01
He Actually I think he leads the league and throw away passes.
00:25:03
Hell, try to deal with that first, but he wants to get rid of the ball faster this year, and it's been better um, I'd rather see him get rid of the ball.
00:25:12
My son will do it with me now to my 14 year old will sit there and he's just like ball ball.
00:25:17
You know, like two seconds and in your head, just like balls Gotta go.
00:25:19
Gotta go Rogers And it's been much less this year.
00:25:23
He's been better about it, So that's I think that's the first way that we wanna address.
00:25:27
The pass.
00:25:28
Rush is the ball comes out fast, but the Packers do keep in running backs.
00:25:32
Um, Williams, especially, is a very good pass protector.
00:25:36
Jones less so, but he's been better as he goes on, but they'll also do the stay in look, look and then roll out.
00:25:44
Depending on how the play picks up.
00:25:48
Now, the courts put a premium on, uh, using the running backs in and passport pro Uh, E.
00:25:56
I guess that kind of comes with having Tom Rathmann as you're running backs coach.
00:26:00
Uh, but you know, the one way that I think that Aaron will end up shredding the Colts defense is the fact that the Colts due primarily run his own defense.
00:26:20
And if he sees that zone he will find those open spots really quick, really easily.
00:26:28
And that worries me.
00:26:29
And I'm hoping that we have seen it in the past where Matty Brief Loose will switch it up and he'll hide the fact that it's actually man coverage rather than zone.
00:26:41
And that's where that's.
00:26:42
That's where Indianapolis gets most of their interceptions and pick sixes.
00:26:45
And stuff like that is just, you know, every once in a while, utterly confused, a quarterback because you don't use man coverage very often, and they hide it when they do.
00:26:58
So, um, that's that's something that I look forward to, but at the same time, if we run that soft zone, Erin's gonna kill us.
00:27:09
If you give him five yards of play on, then give him a chance.
00:27:13
That somebody.
00:27:14
I mean, we talked about yesterday, but we did get the news today.
00:27:17
Alan Lazard has been activated and will be available this week, so yeah, it was hard, but I don't want him playing against the cool way.
00:27:26
Get a little slip up here.
00:27:27
You get a guy, we'll get a guy back and we'll Lazard and and Adams.
00:27:32
Uh, well, Adams is good against man or zone because they're both very smart.
00:27:36
Um, Adam's, though against the man.
00:27:38
If I mean, if you're gonna try to bump him, that's that's where he lives.
00:27:42
Um, he's so good off the line, it's it's it's just something that he's really emphasized.
00:27:48
And if you try to bump him, he's going to get past you and then you're gonna be chasing him and he's good in the open field.
00:27:55
We'll see what MVS is.
00:27:57
Just, uh, he's a quandary.
00:28:00
He's a question mark inside an enigma.
00:28:03
You know, instead of puzzle, he'll have a game like last week Every now and then.
00:28:07
We're like, Oh, he's got 100 50 years ago 130 yards and you're like on four catches, all right, But you know, every now and he had the game kind of like that against the Vikings early.
00:28:17
He's like maybe he's got it.
00:28:19
Um, his biggest problem is first off, MVS has dropped the ball far too many times, and secondly, he's, um, his body control.
00:28:28
And just like the technique aspects of getting to the ball while it's in the air are things he hasn't mastered yet.
00:28:35
And he definitely looked better last week sitting in zones.
00:28:39
He's gotten a little better at reading that because he had a good third down conversion like 38 he sat just between guys, you know, among, like, three different people there, I think the linebacker upfront and you just between the safety and a corner and just made sure he had it.
00:28:55
And then it was kind of a low throw, and he went to the ground and you got it.
00:28:59
But if he's your third option, I feel way better about the Packers passing game.
00:29:03
If MVS is the third option, Uh, yeah, your place just zone against him.
00:29:09
Um, I'll count on Rogers in that situation, especially if we, you know, with our guys.
00:29:14
Especially if Lazard is back, especially if we got him.
00:29:18
The alien lizard is, we say, Yeah, before I let Ugo One more question.
00:29:25
The Indianapolis Colts fans knows for a fact how important special teams is to a to a team so important.
00:29:32
I mean, they basically won their game off of 17 point turn, uh, swing.
00:29:38
Do the special teams against Tennessee with blocked punt return for a touchdown and a shanked punt.
00:29:43
Things of that nature.
00:29:45
Um, give Colts fans a little bit, uh, inside on how you feel your special teams is doing right now.
00:29:54
All returns don't happen as much anymore.
00:29:56
Um, the Packers were on pace to be the worst punt return team in the history of the NFL last year, and then they were able to get Tyler Urban, and he completely changed the entire course of the season in terms of a return game.
00:30:08
He's a very nice returner.
00:30:10
He's not a game breaker, but and I don't think e he hasn't had a return for a touchdown.
00:30:15
But he's going to catch the ball, generally speaking, and he'll he'll get forward for a couple yards if it's there and he's fast enough to make it, make it work if he can find ways to do things.
00:30:26
Um, biggest part of our game is the Mason.
00:30:29
Crosby is great and I've been been for years.
00:30:34
I mean, he is one of two players left from the Super Bowl team that won.
00:30:38
It's just him and Rogers and yeah, he came out of Colorado with a giant leg.
00:30:44
He still got a giant leg.
00:30:45
Um, he had one of the weirdest place I've ever watched in football, where Tramon Williams at one point called a fair catch.
00:30:52
His time was about to run out and a half, and because he called a fair catch, the Packers were allowed to take a free kick.
00:31:00
You know, put the ball on a tee and try to kick a field goal with no Pat with no rush.
00:31:04
It was like a 64 yard kick, and he just missed it.
00:31:08
Why'd left? I believe like it was long enough.
00:31:11
He just slightly missed it.
00:31:13
Um, he's been really, really good.
00:31:14
He had a couple years where, you know, he had a year to where it wasn't going well on the biggest problem for him.
00:31:20
There was the Packers were so effective from everything 30 and in.
00:31:24
He led the league in the amount of 50 plus yard field goals, and it killed his percentage because he was.
00:31:30
He kicked zero like 20 yard field goals.
00:31:33
He kicked none of them because they scored every time they were in the red zone.
00:31:37
Um, but he's a very good kicker.
00:31:39
He's very consistent kicker.
00:31:41
Um, you give him a flat surface and a little less wind in Indy than he's had the last couple of weeks, and he's pretty accurate.
00:31:47
He's gonna be good.
00:31:49
That's I mean, that's a very helpful thing.
00:31:51
Toe have granted the Packers gonna go for it on fourth down if it's short, so a little bit of his scoring away.
00:31:57
But it's good there.
00:31:59
Um, J K.
00:32:01
Scott is a really good punter.
00:32:03
That guy has a cannon for like, he's fantastic.
00:32:06
Punter.
00:32:07
Um, he's buried a couple to that. Just die.
00:32:11
He's a really good punter.
00:32:12
Our kicking game between those two guys is fantastic.
00:32:15
One thing you'll want to watch with Scott.
00:32:17
It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen with a punter.
00:32:20
He doesn't lift his back leg, his plant leg off the ground when he kicks.
00:32:24
You know, like you ever watch a punter.
00:32:26
They go up here, he does not, and he still kicks it as far as anybody in the NFL at this point in the league.
00:32:33
And it zits weird to watch, and he also he looks like the guy from, uh, was it always sunny in Philadelphia? There's always drinking milk in the bathroom.
00:32:42
It looks a little like that, so there's a lot of memes out there for JK Scott with that kicking game is great.
00:32:48
Return game.
00:32:49
I mean, kickoff returns or nothing on our punt game is, you know, part return game is at least it's a reasonable one.
00:32:56
It's not great, but it's it's not a bad one, and he's a guy who could do a couple of things there.
00:33:00
He's not gonna burn you, though, So I feel decent, at least in our kicking game and what it can do.
00:33:07
What about your special teams defense? Because the Indianapolis colt, uh, we're pretty proud of our special teams.
00:33:14
We've always had good kickers.
00:33:15
We I mean, we went from, uh, multiple all the way back to, like, Dean, be a sushi back in the early nineties.
00:33:23
Right on now, we just got the undrafted free agent undrafted rookie Rodrigo Blankenship.
00:33:30
He's doing mhm fine right now.
00:33:33
He's missed a couple of short ones, but nails the long ones.
00:33:36
Um, weird.
00:33:38
But e think that's just rookie things.
00:33:41
Um, our partner Sanchez.
00:33:45
Excellent.
00:33:46
He could drop it right inside the five yard line anywhere from 40 toe 70 yards out at times.
00:33:54
Um, just beautiful.
00:33:55
And we got the guys to go down there to put down it on.
00:33:58
Then, of course, our returner name Heinz.
00:34:01
He's returned multiple touchdowns, punt return touchdowns and the same in the same game.
00:34:07
Eso We're very proud of that.
00:34:10
What's your defense when it comes to something like that? This is where that the one return last week with Jacksonville was so frustrating is I've never seen them give up.
00:34:21
Significant punt return yards this year are kick coverage has been pretty good.
00:34:25
But again, we've got a big leg kick er and we just don't let teams return it that often.
00:34:30
Anyhow, Yeah, we've been pretty good on our coverage.
00:34:34
For the most part, we've got a lot of young guys who are, you know, filling into that spots of, you know, corners and tight ends.
00:34:40
You like going deep with a lot of those types of guys that air.
00:34:43
You know, those air, your special teams, guys.
00:34:46
And, you know, I haven't seen other than last week where we had the one flew play where it almost was like with the wind.
00:34:53
He kind of outkicked everybody and it went too far.
00:34:56
I think you've seen with the wind at that point, and it just got out of hand.
00:35:00
That's the only really bad when I've seen.
00:35:02
I don't remember another game this year where I felt like I don't know what was going on there.
00:35:05
Where was everybody? No one's in their lanes.
00:35:08
It seems much more disciplined.
00:35:09
And that's it's a big change.
00:35:11
Because about three years ago, everybody in Green Bay knew the name of our special teams coordinator for about five years in a row.
00:35:17
I mean, they changed it once in there, but we all know who it waas because we all wanted him fired and, uh, also.
00:35:23
And it's a little less than that.
00:35:24
We don't have Ron Zuck back there anymore, doing that kind of garbage.
00:35:28
All right, All right.
00:35:30
Well, thank you so much for joining here on coleslaw, man.
00:35:35
Uh, this is another one of those, uh, kind of pedestal games where you take your team and you go, How good really are you this year, right? That's for both teams.
00:35:46
Honestly, I think green basis.
00:35:47
And that's basically the same same situation that that the colts Aaron, Right now, uh, this will be a good measuring stick for both teams.
00:35:55
um I expect this game to be close.
00:36:00
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pick a winner right now.
00:36:03
Um, I haven't picked a winner all week because I want to see the injury report before, uh, the game actually happens, and we're recording this a little early, but I I still expected to be a very close.
00:36:17
Came because it's it's two teams with with good rosters.
00:36:20
Well coached coaching.
00:36:22
Yeah, and I just I don't see a team being able to really just pull away from the other by more than, you know, multiple digits.
00:36:33
So, um, okay yourself.
00:36:38
I believe you said the same thing, right? You expect it to be a close, low scoring game? I expected something like 14 10 or somewhere in that area is what I've been saying or 17.
00:36:48
13.
00:36:49
I think teams are going to score, but I don't think it's gonna be particularly high, generally speaking, but I have.
00:36:56
There's no is in this game for me in terms of being a Packer fan.
00:37:00
I don't feel particularly good about the chances here.
00:37:03
This is one of the games I circled after the bye week as one of two or three.
00:37:08
I was most concerned about playing for the rest of the year.
00:37:10
I mean, always bears because, you know, the Bears.
00:37:14
But this cold steam is good, and it's it's gonna be one that's gonna be difficult toe to kind of sit through and see how they do here.
00:37:21
But yeah, I'm still hopeful we'll be there watching either way.
00:37:26
Yeah, Yeah.
00:37:27
All right.
00:37:28
Well, go ahead one last time.
00:37:30
Give my viewers and listeners another where they can find you at.
00:37:36
Well, I appreciate it.
00:37:37
And it's been a nice being with you.
00:37:39
We have conversations over the last two days now, but you can find me on Twitter at not so humble host.
00:37:44
My podcast is thesis.
00:37:46
Connie, Johnny podcast.
00:37:48
Uh, Scotty, if you don't, I guess I don't know if everybody knows.
00:37:51
But, Scotty, just another way of saying with Scott tonight.
00:37:54
Um, but yeah, I'm there with Aaron Flat.
00:37:56
Um, and you can find me there, and every now and then you also see me putting stuff up as Jonathan Barnett at Well, I think it shows up.
00:38:03
Is J.
00:38:04
D Barnett, but Jonathan Barnett at Acme Packing Company as well.
00:38:09
Usually right. Either.
00:38:10
Fantasy stuff or just other random things that come up that we need fill on.
00:38:14
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00:38:16
It's been great talking with you.
00:38:17
It's Ah, fun show.
00:38:18
And, uh, I'll keep listening to your podcast too.
00:38:22
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00:38:23
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NFL Week 11: Packers at Colts Preview

Green Bay Packers star wideout Davante Adams gave fans a scare when he did not practice on Saturday due to an ankle injury. However, it appears the Packers held Adams out as a precaution. Head coach Matt LaFleur said the three-time Pro Bowler will play on Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts, per Pro Football Talk. […]

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Welcome to SportsCastr.
00:00:21
I'm Lawrence O on this is coleslaw.
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And today I've got Jonathan Barnett, who is in a big Packers fan, then a Packers fan his whole life.
00:00:32
Hey, Jonathan, man, can you please give my listeners and viewers a little bit of the information about yourself? What you do where they could find you? Things of that nature? Absolutely.
00:00:45
Uh, I do the Scotty Johnny podcast.
00:00:48
We talk all Wisconsin sports, Which is why I've got my badger hockey.
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Um, does you in Indiana? I mean, we fight.
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We got a big win this weekend over Notre Dame, but we talk all Wisconsin sports, mostly packers, mostly badgers, football.
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But we bring in a little bit about your hockey badger basketball.
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Marquette, which is the little brother of Wisconsin sports for the most part.
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Bucks and brewers and all that stuff.
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But mostly Packer centric.
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Um, so we're on anywhere you find podcasts.
00:01:16
Um, I run that with a friend of mine I hosted.
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He's my co host.
00:01:20
His name is Aaron Flat.
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Um, he goes at cheddar talk on Twitter.
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Um, he's our trash talker every now and then, um, he's a bit of a twitter troll every now and then, too.
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But he's hilarious about it.
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He's not mean spirited.
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We met in the Army, and we've been good friends for had over a decade.
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At this point, I suppose, um, way both served in Iraq together.
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And now we do sports podcasting together.
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You can find that podcast anywhere you find podcasts.
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I also do some writing for Acme Packing Company, which is a SB nation blawg spot.
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Um, I've done some stuff, other places, but it kind of pulled back a little bit on the writing.
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Um, I am a member of the Fantasy Sports Writers Association, and you can follow me on Twitter at not so humble host, because that is how I start.
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I have not the humble host of a little not so humble, but that's mostly for show.
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Thank you for having me.
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We had you on ours.
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Uh, just yesterday.
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So a little turnabout is fair play here, I guess.
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Well, you know what? I actually enjoyed myself quite a bit, So I'm very happy that you came on here to join me toe.
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Just get the Colts fans a little bit understanding about what's going on.
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What they can expect in this Packers game Sunday.
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But, yeah, when you when you talk about the guy who your co host, who likes to talk a little bit of smack Oh my God, didn't he have the Packers? He said.
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He said the Packers were going to smack the Colts down.
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I don't know.
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He definitely said was gonna be a high scoring game.
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I think he said something like 34 21 or 34 24.
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Something in that range.
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I'm not nearly that conference.
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Could be that high scoring.
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I think I picked something like 14 10 or something along those lines because, um, tell me that Colt defense just scares me.
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It really does.
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And, uh, Colts running game scares me, controls the game, and they can get Aaron frustrated.
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There's times that he just has that look about him, and you're just worried you're gonna see that when you're on my side of the ball E stands, I guess.
00:03:21
Well, one thing that has been a parent since Frank right, came in, uh, to the head coaching spot of the Colts is he is not afraid to go for it.
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He went for it on fourth down five times against the Titans, converting three of them.
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One of the times he went for fourth and one basically at the goal line and failed.
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But turn around, you know, was great.
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We got the bad shanked punt and then end up walking in for a touchdown anyhow.
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But he's been unafraid since he stepped in in the playoff game against the Oilers and e for it.
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I don't care.
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Yeah, I got to lose e 28 points.
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Ain't nothing for me.
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Well, come back.
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Hey, eso! But yeah, being that he is one of those guys who who is not afraid to take chances and roll the dice and uses ****ytics pretty much for just about everything that he does on the field when it comes to play calling.
00:04:23
Is that a situation where green based not used to seeing where there, You know, you might have someone stopped at their own 45 with two yards or three yards to go and see them go for it.
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And if so, or if not, how would How do you think? Um, Green Bay would respond to something like that? That's an interesting point.
00:04:44
I guess the hardest part for the Packers on that is that the run game is particularly the terrible for this defense.
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It's It's the worst part of this team entirely.
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Um, it's better with Kenny Clarke on the field than without, um, but that's the part is, it's most likely to be fourth.
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In short, you go with the ****ytical fourth and ones you converted most of the time.
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The idea that we will stop you don't Heinz or Taylor Getting a yard is not something that particularly excited about in terms of that.
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Both these teams, I think, are fairly ****ytical with that.
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I think I saw just this last week.
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Um Paul Newman, who writes for Acme packing as well, and a couple other sites.
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He's, Ah, Badger Noonan on Twitter.
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He was putting up something about in terms of the times when you should go on fourth down.
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****ytically, the Packers go 100% of the time.
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The bills go 100% of the time.
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I think the culture up there, too.
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I think we're going to see a lot of these forced down and ones you don't have to 50 or 40 or whatever.
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They're gonna go for it.
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Both teams this game, I think, and that's I think it will actually benefit both teams.
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It will increase.
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It might increase the scoring, I guess.
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Although I still don't I'm still picking 14 10 form.
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Well, I mean, yeah, going forward at the fifth.
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He's not terrible because that's just like giving up.
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Ah, good.
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Even if you don't get it's like giving up a good kick off return or something, you know, it's it's not terrible.
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The team still has to roll 40 to 60 yards in order to get their touchdown anyhow, and it's the ****ytics say you do it especially depending on the score and the time of the game.
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But yeah, it z one of those things where now they're just like you said Raich and LaFleur and guys like Shanahan and them that they like the numbers, they're going through the numbers and they're like, this is the number that we should work with.
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This is the number we should change.
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And this Yeah, they're definitely both coaches who will go for it in that situation.
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Speaking of LaFleur, uh, your opinion difference between him and McCarthy McCarthy so many times.
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The biggest thing I'd say with the car you think back to my podcast is, um McCarthy loved his system and try to fit people into the system.
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And there's some of that with a little bit, much less.
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He's more willing to find guys and find ways to use those guys he definitely drafted.
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Or at least got gotten Koontz on board, which we love to point out.
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Gotten ****s means good art.
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Um, Guten, who's definitely is on board with drafting the people he wanted.
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We got the guara and we got Dylan and we got you know, we got eight back.
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We got a big running back, and really, we're not really going to use them this year that much.
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Then dig where I got hurt, too.
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But it's like they're definitely on board with trying to get guys to his system.
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But he usually guys he has for the time being.
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Ah, they're very different systems.
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McCarthy was almost no motion.
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He was.
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Lineup was from the play.
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He did a lot of stretch, the field sorts of things, the number of times where it's like fourth or like 35 or something like that, and nobody turns to look for the ball until they're at least 10 yards downfield.
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They're like, you know, they're blitzing, right? Like you have to know they're blitzing.
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It's a past situation.
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The ball is gonna have to come out, and nobody's even looking and used to drive me crazy.
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LaFleur generally runs that sort of thing a lot like what you're used to with what Tennessee does, because Leffler was there in Tennessee.
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It's the same type of idea they have.
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Um, you bring that tight end back across the formation, using the H back power on toe lead to play action.
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It's a lot of crossing around a lot of intermediates, using the middle of the field on Ben every now that he's gonna take a shot because he's got Aaron Rodgers, he's going to take four or five shots a game.
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So it's trying to play tendencies, and the biggest point of what they're trying to do is go big to allow themselves to run the ball in power style, but also allow the pass options.
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You know, ton iun um, having Jones and Williams on the field same time, those sorts of things even Stern Berger, who he takes himself off the field because he can't block.
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You know it's allowing you have those options to pass out of heavy situations.
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And so it's very different than the 3 to 4 wide constant that we always had with McCarthy and Rogers under center.
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A lot more now, too.
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So it's a different concept, and I like it a lot more because Rodgers is just better when he gets the ball in his hands fast.
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Because if he thinks that the big plays there, he's definitely going big play.
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Well, that's that's there.
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You have no argument where any fan in the NFL I'm sure they been alive longer than three years.
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They know Aaron Rodgers tendencies, Um, but the whole not liking to use motion, that really seems like it hurts veteran quarterbacks the most because they can use that motion toe.
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Find out.
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Hey, is this defense running? Man? Is this defense running zone? Is there gonna be a double on somebody? What am I looking at on this defense? Motion really kind of opens up what the defense is looking like to that quarterback, and he's ableto move guys around and adjust as he needs at the line of scrimmage in order to make it offensive play.
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That's best for that defense that he sees.
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So absolutely.
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I'm now I completely understand why Aaron Rodgers, Uh, it's just not his come back here, you know, ****ed off.
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Hey, you know, you drafted somebody because I'm sorry, That's what everybody that I'm around has said that this is this is his f you year.
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You drafted a quarterback first round instead of giving me help? Uh, yeah, but, you know, I mean, yeah, this with him being able to read the defense and him being in the league is long as he has that motion helps him out a ton, and it's got to be like, uh, like, a savings or like something coming out there and just being like a fresh new day for him, Uh, going out there and be able to do that the second tier, like when you start off like McCarthy didn't do it at all.
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There's that tear like you talk about where you want to start using motion because it starts showing with safety.
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They're gonna move who's who's actually covering whom and like, if they're in that man set up, or if they're how they're shifting or guy follows across or do they move around? Secondarily, LaFleur goes to that next level where he used his motion to create open spaces he used set up and you watch Andy Reid throw the best at it.
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You know, you use that motion to create, um, space for your receivers, and that's that next level and we're not.
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He's not doing it like Andy Reid, but he's it's It's two levels past where we were with McCarthy in terms of that, all right, you mentioned that you don't have a whole lot of faith in your run defense.
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However, you do have a lot of faith in your past defense, and the Colts have got some rhythm going in their passing game the past few weeks with some guys coming back like Michael Pittman.
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Uh, guys getting healthy like T y Hilton.
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Things of that nature water, some matchups defensively for Green Bay that you like in the passing game against Indianapolis.
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The passing in the first thing that we do like is that our corners are definitely very good.
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Uh, this last week against Jacksonville We were missing one and two.
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Gyr Alexander was still recovering from a concussion, released concussion, symptoms, everything.
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And, uh, Kevin King had injury as well, so he was not in there.
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I haven't able to see you know it's Tuesday.
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No, he's practiced yet, so we don't have really anything in terms of much of an injury report on them.
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My guess is it looks like they're on pace.
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The Packers are notoriously the most contrary to whatever Martellus Bennett lies about the most conservative team in terms of holding players back to get them back on the field at 100%.
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And that's even Stephania Bell on ESPN has said that repeatedly, Um, so if we have gyre Alexander, that's the biggest one because he has been against several really great writer secret throughout this year, and he has been able to keep them very, very minimal.
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And I don't know where they'll put him if they wanted to try to keep on.
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If t y is healthy, if they wanna put him there or if they're looking to keep him on Pittman.
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Um, using size advantage is Kevin King is a much larger cornerback.
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He's very fast, Very good.
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He's just not completely a shutdown type of Guayas J areas.
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I believe Jr.
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Right now, pro football.
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Um, focus has him is the number one rated cornerback in football, so having him on the field changes the defense.
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The thing that makes it harder for the Packers in the past game is that Mike Patton has stopped being inventive.
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Mike Patton has decided that he's just going to rush three, and every now and then four very rarely brings 1/5.
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And, yeah, it's massively frustrating for a team like this.
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Were like he's almost become too dependent on the fact that the Packers to put a lot of capital into that defense.
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He's like, I have a most back there and I have gyre and King.
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And then, you know, I've got the Smiths on the outside and in Kenny Clarke up the middle, and they'll just get pass rush on their own.
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So I'll just bring the Smith and Clark and we'll be good. Really.
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No, no, you can't do that, Andi, with something like Philip Rivers, who is not going to run away from you, Um, he's not running for the first time he's now scrambling to do much other than hoping to get away to throw.
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I mean, he's not terrible scrambling in the pocket, but he's not gonna break one on you and you want to get after him.
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And so I would love to see them do more.
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Um, Christian Kirksey had been hurt for a while.
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He was back last week, seeing him in there if we could blitz him.
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Chris Barnes, the very talented rookie who we've got at linebackers, well, who's been playing very well this year.
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I mean, I'd like to see them come on blitzes more frequently.
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We've run three only corner blitz I can think of at this point is gyre Alexander against the Vikings, and that was a mistake.
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He read, run and went to fill, and it was a past play, and he just decided to get the safety.
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It was it was a fluke accident.
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He didn't call it, um, patents become too safe.
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And the thing I'm worried about in the passing game is yeah, we've got the guys back there to cover, especially if Kirksey is healthy, which he seems to be now.
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Knock on wood for today.
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But you can't.
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You can only cover for so long.
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We've gotta actually get after the quarterback, which we have the players to do it.
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You got the horses to run with it.
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You just got to actually do it.
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Yeah, inventive.
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And it's frustrating in that regard.
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Well, when you said that you were down your two top corners against Jacksonville and and and still and still one kept Jake Lutton 170 yards, a touchdown and interception now granted it.
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It's letting but still down down two starters and still be able to hold a new NFL quarterback.
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Whether he's good or not, he's still NFL caliber quarterback down 270 yards.
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Eyes actually. Semi impressive.
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Um, well, I depth corner.
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I mean, Josh Jackson is the third guy there.
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And Chandran Sullivan Both are both very good corners.
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You don't wanna have to roll them is your one and two.
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But I mean, Josh Jackson could be your two.
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He really could be a two on a lot of teams, and we're rolling with both of them at at three and four at this point, and that's that's a luxury the Packers do have is young good corners, and they're going to pay for some of them very soon, unfortunately.
00:16:30
Or let some of them go and figure it out again.
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Well, believe me, Indianapolis understands happen to pay for young guys.
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I mean, we got Nelson and Leonard and all these guys that are coming up at the end of this year.
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You talk about how many people are like, Well, the Colts have all this extra cap space.
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Yeah, Bowel is trying to save it because he's got big money.
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That's gotta He's gotta pay.
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Right? Um, Man, you say that you don't blitz very much.
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You run three or four man pressures, and that's it.
00:17:01
That will be one of the biggest relaxing moments.
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And Philip Rivers for the last month.
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Because Tennessee loves to blitz Baltimore before them loved blitzing.
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I think them in the Steelers to the two highest blitzing teams in the NFL.
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Right, Right outside of maybe San Francisco.
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So, uh, this will be, ah, luxury when you have that kind of an offensive line that India has, India has a you know, a top five, top three.
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Some will argue top one offensive line in the league and If you're only sending three guys, that's final.
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It's not gonna work because, I mean, when you got a veteran quarterback, he's gonna find the hole somewhere in your defense sooner or later.
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So for four seconds doesn't work in the NFL.
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No, the other guys get paid too.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
00:17:50
Um So what are you expecting from your run game this week against what is considered to be, Ah, pretty good run defense, as opposed to what the Packers have? Yeah, and we have good running backs.
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I mean, obviously, you know, Erin Jones has been fantastic.
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The biggest thing for him is that he's not just a running back.
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He's very valuable in the past game, which, you know, Indianapolis knows a lot about both your running backs, or I believe it's 1st and 4th in receptions on your team at this point.
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So it's It's something where Aaron Jones is very available that way.
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Um, also, I mean, Jamal Williams is a really good pass catcher.
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Um, we have consistently been asking on a show to have both of them on the on the field, same time, um, with doing the same thing with India.
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I'm like please put Johnson, Taylor and the him Heinz on the field the same time and let Rivers run a really, really good lord.
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It's a weird matchup, e think, too.
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Wide receiver in the running backs in the field, who will run wheel routes or will motion out wide on like I got to run a linebacker out there now and then run with it.
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You know, it's like it's it's it's a it's a matchup thing.
00:19:01
And that's something that, you know, you figured these next level NFL guy should be thinking about, and the floor has been doing it a lot more.
00:19:07
He's done it plenty of times this year where he's got both in the backfield.
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There have been times, literally, this year, where they have both of them in the backfield, one of them with, like, motion out wide and then also Tyler.
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Irvin's on the field, whose little scatback he's not.
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He's never gonna be your starter, but he's a good return guy.
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And that jet motion, um, you can get him open or you can get him in that pass route off there.
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Or you could just hand him the ball.
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There's things you can do there.
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They've been invented that way.
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The running game.
00:19:38
The Packers also have a pretty good offensive line.
00:19:41
They got very lucky and getting Elton Jenkins, who's, you know, he's not Quinton Nelson in any way, but he's a very nice guard and tackle some.
00:19:51
He might end up going to tackle at some point to, but he's a He's a big guy and he's got an attitude, which I love.
00:19:58
Seeing Bachtiar.
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He just got his big deal now, so he's, uh he's amped up and ready to go on.
00:20:04
He's good as there is at left tackle.
00:20:06
Uh huh.
00:20:07
The having Billy Billy Turner out there, too, is nice.
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But, I mean, he's somebody would like to Seymour out of.
00:20:15
He had to phantom penalties this last week, which were just unbearable.
00:20:21
The Packers can run.
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The problem we had this last week is they were so massively un inventive in how they did it.
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Ah, lot of what you're going to see is that stuff where we bring the Titan is going to go opposite to run the run pattern, you know, as if he's gonna pick up in case you're charging hard down the line.
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He's going to get that.
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You're gonna try to run towards that tackle spot, possibly away from the H back half the time, or possibly use the H back to lead block through there.
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So seeing Tun Yin come downhill or seeing him come back across the back there to fill in and allow those cutback lanes is what we want to be able to dio.
00:20:59
It's going to be a hard role.
00:21:00
I mean, the Colt defense is really, really good, and like I said, that's the thing that bothers me the most about this game.
00:21:06
The Packers have looked good on this against a lot of pretty decent defense is we've done well against, you know, the Vikings have very good active linebackers, but that's them.
00:21:17
And then Harrison Smith are about the only thing they have.
00:21:20
That front line is not particularly great.
00:21:23
Cold front line is better way.
00:21:26
Still, remember, um Forest Buckner from the 40 Niners twice last year? And that is the biggest bugaboo in the Packers is thinking about those two games from last year's is the only things that kept the South Super Bowls those two games? Yeah, yeah, we we play a lot of a lot of teams with good offensive lines, and I think that's the reason why the Colts got divorced.
00:21:47
Buckner was because we had good young guys with Justin Houston also, but we didn't have that dominant three Tech.
00:21:55
And the way Matt refuses defense runs is you need to get pressure with that front for you definitely need to get pressure up the middle.
00:22:04
Which means the three tech is so important.
00:22:07
And that's why they went out and the and they put their cards on the table and says, We'll take Buckner and it's been working really well for Indy.
00:22:14
Speaking of the front line Indianapolis cultures getting back somebody this week Actually, Kemoko Turay.
00:22:22
Uh, he's been injured a lot.
00:22:24
You might not even know who he is.
00:22:26
Um, you know.
00:22:28
He was the highest rated Pff pass rushing defensive lineman last year until he went out in Week five due to an injury against Kansas City, broke his ankle in like two places.
00:22:40
He's just now coming back from that, but he brings something and all the coaches and stuff.
00:22:48
They all say that he looks as good, if not better, than what he did before he got his ankle broke.
00:22:53
Um, he's been working with Robert Mathis on his moves and stuff right off the side.
00:23:00
Um, he brings something to the Colts defense that they don't normally have, and that's a lot of speed and bend off the edge.
00:23:09
I don't want you guys adding more to that defense.
00:23:11
That's the one thing that the Colts have lacked this season is Speed and Bend right and Kemoko.
00:23:20
Now, granted, he's just coming back off the publicist, and he'll probably be on the pitch count.
00:23:25
Third, you know your your third and long passing situation stuff.
00:23:30
Um, yeah, I got a riel.
00:23:36
Do you guys leave your running backs and tight ends in, Ah, lot for extra protection against Rogers because in the occasionally will bring, um, that extra linebacker or ah, secondary guy like Kenny, More like from the nickel slots things of that nature.
00:23:58
Do you guys keep guys in, or do you just like, throw them out there and let Aaron Rodgers find them? Even if there's a blitz, we'll keep the running backs infrequently.
00:24:08
Tight ends less so every now and then they will, especially if it's done yet, but I mean, they want to get those tight ends involved in the game.
00:24:17
The biggest way the Packers air trying to deal with fast pass rush or pass rush in general is the ball needs to come on quickly.
00:24:25
It's hard to get a pass rush in two seconds.
00:24:27
If you can get the ball, make the read, get it out.
00:24:30
That's been the most effective way to make sure that Roger stands upright and it's been he's throwing probably the fastest I've seen him since, like the Super Bowl year, Um, the last several years.
00:24:43
The couple things with Rodgers is he doesn't want to throw picks.
00:24:46
He hates it, and I don't know if it's from watching far.
00:24:50
Just throw them every other play.
00:24:52
But I mean, like, he's got a massive aversion to throwing picks and he doesn't want to do it, so he will hold the ball longer.
00:24:57
He takes sacks to avoid it.
00:25:00
Um, and he does.
00:25:01
He Actually I think he leads the league and throw away passes.
00:25:03
Hell, try to deal with that first, but he wants to get rid of the ball faster this year, and it's been better um, I'd rather see him get rid of the ball.
00:25:12
My son will do it with me now to my 14 year old will sit there and he's just like ball ball.
00:25:17
You know, like two seconds and in your head, just like balls Gotta go.
00:25:19
Gotta go Rogers And it's been much less this year.
00:25:23
He's been better about it, So that's I think that's the first way that we wanna address.
00:25:27
The pass.
00:25:28
Rush is the ball comes out fast, but the Packers do keep in running backs.
00:25:32
Um, Williams, especially, is a very good pass protector.
00:25:36
Jones less so, but he's been better as he goes on, but they'll also do the stay in look, look and then roll out.
00:25:44
Depending on how the play picks up.
00:25:48
Now, the courts put a premium on, uh, using the running backs in and passport pro Uh, E.
00:25:56
I guess that kind of comes with having Tom Rathmann as you're running backs coach.
00:26:00
Uh, but you know, the one way that I think that Aaron will end up shredding the Colts defense is the fact that the Colts due primarily run his own defense.
00:26:20
And if he sees that zone he will find those open spots really quick, really easily.
00:26:28
And that worries me.
00:26:29
And I'm hoping that we have seen it in the past where Matty Brief Loose will switch it up and he'll hide the fact that it's actually man coverage rather than zone.
00:26:41
And that's where that's.
00:26:42
That's where Indianapolis gets most of their interceptions and pick sixes.
00:26:45
And stuff like that is just, you know, every once in a while, utterly confused, a quarterback because you don't use man coverage very often, and they hide it when they do.
00:26:58
So, um, that's that's something that I look forward to, but at the same time, if we run that soft zone, Erin's gonna kill us.
00:27:09
If you give him five yards of play on, then give him a chance.
00:27:13
That somebody.
00:27:14
I mean, we talked about yesterday, but we did get the news today.
00:27:17
Alan Lazard has been activated and will be available this week, so yeah, it was hard, but I don't want him playing against the cool way.
00:27:26
Get a little slip up here.
00:27:27
You get a guy, we'll get a guy back and we'll Lazard and and Adams.
00:27:32
Uh, well, Adams is good against man or zone because they're both very smart.
00:27:36
Um, Adam's, though against the man.
00:27:38
If I mean, if you're gonna try to bump him, that's that's where he lives.
00:27:42
Um, he's so good off the line, it's it's it's just something that he's really emphasized.
00:27:48
And if you try to bump him, he's going to get past you and then you're gonna be chasing him and he's good in the open field.
00:27:55
We'll see what MVS is.
00:27:57
Just, uh, he's a quandary.
00:28:00
He's a question mark inside an enigma.
00:28:03
You know, instead of puzzle, he'll have a game like last week Every now and then.
00:28:07
We're like, Oh, he's got 100 50 years ago 130 yards and you're like on four catches, all right, But you know, every now and he had the game kind of like that against the Vikings early.
00:28:17
He's like maybe he's got it.
00:28:19
Um, his biggest problem is first off, MVS has dropped the ball far too many times, and secondly, he's, um, his body control.
00:28:28
And just like the technique aspects of getting to the ball while it's in the air are things he hasn't mastered yet.
00:28:35
And he definitely looked better last week sitting in zones.
00:28:39
He's gotten a little better at reading that because he had a good third down conversion like 38 he sat just between guys, you know, among, like, three different people there, I think the linebacker upfront and you just between the safety and a corner and just made sure he had it.
00:28:55
And then it was kind of a low throw, and he went to the ground and you got it.
00:28:59
But if he's your third option, I feel way better about the Packers passing game.
00:29:03
If MVS is the third option, Uh, yeah, your place just zone against him.
00:29:09
Um, I'll count on Rogers in that situation, especially if we, you know, with our guys.
00:29:14
Especially if Lazard is back, especially if we got him.
00:29:18
The alien lizard is, we say, Yeah, before I let Ugo One more question.
00:29:25
The Indianapolis Colts fans knows for a fact how important special teams is to a to a team so important.
00:29:32
I mean, they basically won their game off of 17 point turn, uh, swing.
00:29:38
Do the special teams against Tennessee with blocked punt return for a touchdown and a shanked punt.
00:29:43
Things of that nature.
00:29:45
Um, give Colts fans a little bit, uh, inside on how you feel your special teams is doing right now.
00:29:54
All returns don't happen as much anymore.
00:29:56
Um, the Packers were on pace to be the worst punt return team in the history of the NFL last year, and then they were able to get Tyler Urban, and he completely changed the entire course of the season in terms of a return game.
00:30:08
He's a very nice returner.
00:30:10
He's not a game breaker, but and I don't think e he hasn't had a return for a touchdown.
00:30:15
But he's going to catch the ball, generally speaking, and he'll he'll get forward for a couple yards if it's there and he's fast enough to make it, make it work if he can find ways to do things.
00:30:26
Um, biggest part of our game is the Mason.
00:30:29
Crosby is great and I've been been for years.
00:30:34
I mean, he is one of two players left from the Super Bowl team that won.
00:30:38
It's just him and Rogers and yeah, he came out of Colorado with a giant leg.
00:30:44
He still got a giant leg.
00:30:45
Um, he had one of the weirdest place I've ever watched in football, where Tramon Williams at one point called a fair catch.
00:30:52
His time was about to run out and a half, and because he called a fair catch, the Packers were allowed to take a free kick.
00:31:00
You know, put the ball on a tee and try to kick a field goal with no Pat with no rush.
00:31:04
It was like a 64 yard kick, and he just missed it.
00:31:08
Why'd left? I believe like it was long enough.
00:31:11
He just slightly missed it.
00:31:13
Um, he's been really, really good.
00:31:14
He had a couple years where, you know, he had a year to where it wasn't going well on the biggest problem for him.
00:31:20
There was the Packers were so effective from everything 30 and in.
00:31:24
He led the league in the amount of 50 plus yard field goals, and it killed his percentage because he was.
00:31:30
He kicked zero like 20 yard field goals.
00:31:33
He kicked none of them because they scored every time they were in the red zone.
00:31:37
Um, but he's a very good kicker.
00:31:39
He's very consistent kicker.
00:31:41
Um, you give him a flat surface and a little less wind in Indy than he's had the last couple of weeks, and he's pretty accurate.
00:31:47
He's gonna be good.
00:31:49
That's I mean, that's a very helpful thing.
00:31:51
Toe have granted the Packers gonna go for it on fourth down if it's short, so a little bit of his scoring away.
00:31:57
But it's good there.
00:31:59
Um, J K.
00:32:01
Scott is a really good punter.
00:32:03
That guy has a cannon for like, he's fantastic.
00:32:06
Punter.
00:32:07
Um, he's buried a couple to that. Just die.
00:32:11
He's a really good punter.
00:32:12
Our kicking game between those two guys is fantastic.
00:32:15
One thing you'll want to watch with Scott.
00:32:17
It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen with a punter.
00:32:20
He doesn't lift his back leg, his plant leg off the ground when he kicks.
00:32:24
You know, like you ever watch a punter.
00:32:26
They go up here, he does not, and he still kicks it as far as anybody in the NFL at this point in the league.
00:32:33
And it zits weird to watch, and he also he looks like the guy from, uh, was it always sunny in Philadelphia? There's always drinking milk in the bathroom.
00:32:42
It looks a little like that, so there's a lot of memes out there for JK Scott with that kicking game is great.
00:32:48
Return game.
00:32:49
I mean, kickoff returns or nothing on our punt game is, you know, part return game is at least it's a reasonable one.
00:32:56
It's not great, but it's it's not a bad one, and he's a guy who could do a couple of things there.
00:33:00
He's not gonna burn you, though, So I feel decent, at least in our kicking game and what it can do.
00:33:07
What about your special teams defense? Because the Indianapolis colt, uh, we're pretty proud of our special teams.
00:33:14
We've always had good kickers.
00:33:15
We I mean, we went from, uh, multiple all the way back to, like, Dean, be a sushi back in the early nineties.
00:33:23
Right on now, we just got the undrafted free agent undrafted rookie Rodrigo Blankenship.
00:33:30
He's doing mhm fine right now.
00:33:33
He's missed a couple of short ones, but nails the long ones.
00:33:36
Um, weird.
00:33:38
But e think that's just rookie things.
00:33:41
Um, our partner Sanchez.
00:33:45
Excellent.
00:33:46
He could drop it right inside the five yard line anywhere from 40 toe 70 yards out at times.
00:33:54
Um, just beautiful.
00:33:55
And we got the guys to go down there to put down it on.
00:33:58
Then, of course, our returner name Heinz.
00:34:01
He's returned multiple touchdowns, punt return touchdowns and the same in the same game.
00:34:07
Eso We're very proud of that.
00:34:10
What's your defense when it comes to something like that? This is where that the one return last week with Jacksonville was so frustrating is I've never seen them give up.
00:34:21
Significant punt return yards this year are kick coverage has been pretty good.
00:34:25
But again, we've got a big leg kick er and we just don't let teams return it that often.
00:34:30
Anyhow, Yeah, we've been pretty good on our coverage.
00:34:34
For the most part, we've got a lot of young guys who are, you know, filling into that spots of, you know, corners and tight ends.
00:34:40
You like going deep with a lot of those types of guys that air.
00:34:43
You know, those air, your special teams, guys.
00:34:46
And, you know, I haven't seen other than last week where we had the one flew play where it almost was like with the wind.
00:34:53
He kind of outkicked everybody and it went too far.
00:34:56
I think you've seen with the wind at that point, and it just got out of hand.
00:35:00
That's the only really bad when I've seen.
00:35:02
I don't remember another game this year where I felt like I don't know what was going on there.
00:35:05
Where was everybody? No one's in their lanes.
00:35:08
It seems much more disciplined.
00:35:09
And that's it's a big change.
00:35:11
Because about three years ago, everybody in Green Bay knew the name of our special teams coordinator for about five years in a row.
00:35:17
I mean, they changed it once in there, but we all know who it waas because we all wanted him fired and, uh, also.
00:35:23
And it's a little less than that.
00:35:24
We don't have Ron Zuck back there anymore, doing that kind of garbage.
00:35:28
All right, All right.
00:35:30
Well, thank you so much for joining here on coleslaw, man.
00:35:35
Uh, this is another one of those, uh, kind of pedestal games where you take your team and you go, How good really are you this year, right? That's for both teams.
00:35:46
Honestly, I think green basis.
00:35:47
And that's basically the same same situation that that the colts Aaron, Right now, uh, this will be a good measuring stick for both teams.
00:35:55
um I expect this game to be close.
00:36:00
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pick a winner right now.
00:36:03
Um, I haven't picked a winner all week because I want to see the injury report before, uh, the game actually happens, and we're recording this a little early, but I I still expected to be a very close.
00:36:17
Came because it's it's two teams with with good rosters.
00:36:20
Well coached coaching.
00:36:22
Yeah, and I just I don't see a team being able to really just pull away from the other by more than, you know, multiple digits.
00:36:33
So, um, okay yourself.
00:36:38
I believe you said the same thing, right? You expect it to be a close, low scoring game? I expected something like 14 10 or somewhere in that area is what I've been saying or 17.
00:36:48
13.
00:36:49
I think teams are going to score, but I don't think it's gonna be particularly high, generally speaking, but I have.
00:36:56
There's no is in this game for me in terms of being a Packer fan.
00:37:00
I don't feel particularly good about the chances here.
00:37:03
This is one of the games I circled after the bye week as one of two or three.
00:37:08
I was most concerned about playing for the rest of the year.
00:37:10
I mean, always bears because, you know, the Bears.
00:37:14
But this cold steam is good, and it's it's gonna be one that's gonna be difficult toe to kind of sit through and see how they do here.
00:37:21
But yeah, I'm still hopeful we'll be there watching either way.
00:37:26
Yeah, Yeah.
00:37:27
All right.
00:37:28
Well, go ahead one last time.
00:37:30
Give my viewers and listeners another where they can find you at.
00:37:36
Well, I appreciate it.
00:37:37
And it's been a nice being with you.
00:37:39
We have conversations over the last two days now, but you can find me on Twitter at not so humble host.
00:37:44
My podcast is thesis.
00:37:46
Connie, Johnny podcast.
00:37:48
Uh, Scotty, if you don't, I guess I don't know if everybody knows.
00:37:51
But, Scotty, just another way of saying with Scott tonight.
00:37:54
Um, but yeah, I'm there with Aaron Flat.
00:37:56
Um, and you can find me there, and every now and then you also see me putting stuff up as Jonathan Barnett at Well, I think it shows up.
00:38:03
Is J.
00:38:04
D Barnett, but Jonathan Barnett at Acme Packing Company as well.
00:38:09
Usually right. Either.
00:38:10
Fantasy stuff or just other random things that come up that we need fill on.
00:38:14
So thank you again for having me.
00:38:16
It's been great talking with you.
00:38:17
It's Ah, fun show.
00:38:18
And, uh, I'll keep listening to your podcast too.
00:38:22
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00:38:23
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00:38:25
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