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00:00:00
working over the fair is the healthy, the wealthy, the wise Mr Andrew Sebastian.
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MCA wits.
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Adam, I'm fired up this morning.
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I am as fired up as maybe the Big Tuna is about the Giants.
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What do you think? I love that This guy is just tuna voting it out down there in Florida.
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And when somebody finally asked for his opinion, you know, throws it out there you haven't heard from you don't hear from Bill Parcells during the year.
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Anything he's not, really, you know. Ah, public.
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I figure in the NFL.
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They asked him the question.
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What do you think about what's going on there, ***? I like it.
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I like it a lot.
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I like what this coach is about. I like what they're doing.
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They're they're getting some grits right there, getting some some old school kind of New York football giants mentality to them.
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He thinks that this team's going in the right direction.
00:00:48
Adam, I have a very serious question for you.
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When I say the Big Tuna or I say, tuna, do you immediately go to Bill Parcells or do you go to the office first? Which which one is it? Well, Azaz Andy.
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Bernard Just like cornered the market on tuna, I think Big tuna, you know, like that.
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Then it gets your mind there.
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Oh, got a got a big one on the line here.
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We g o who put somebody better Tell me who put my food? My my stuff in Jell O I'm gonna lose my freaking mind.
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Uh, what an underrated character on the show.
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I think everyone just thinks that he's like the dopey guy, but he he's actually one of the common threads that carries them along through, like the Michael Scott leaving era, I think at least well and not and not for nothing here, here's the problem not to complete sidetrack our podcast before we even get started.
00:01:40
The problem is that that that that is, as um Ed Helms is like he's hitting his meteoric rise to s****om so they end up giving him time off to go to the hangover when that stuff pops off.
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That's why he goes on the weird Baki boat trip.
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The bottom line being that character goes through a lot of phases.
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And that's what's weird to me for him.
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I think if they If you keep him in the other branch like and then he gets incorporated and he's just that guy.
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That's like losing his mind about stuff randomly and punching Walls.
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Then it's a dreamscape.
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But it's also hard to waste the talent that is at Helm's.
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Uh, hey, listen, I agree.
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Either way, I love me.
00:02:17
Some Ed Helms, Andy Bernard Still underrated character.
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Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:02:22
This is exactly how we scripted the start of the podcast.
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This is where we thought we would go.
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It is the Friday show.
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The Giants are, of course, on a bye week.
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So we get to maybe have a little bit more fun.
00:02:31
But we can start out with a couple of different things that we saw obviously coming off of the Thursday night game where the Seahawks were able to hold off.
00:02:39
Remember, they lost 37 34 in overtime to the Cardinals a few weeks back in the season, they get a 28 21 victory here.
00:02:46
Uh, these are two teams that we're going to see right over the remainder of our season.
00:02:51
Was this affirmation that Seattle is legit? Do the Cardinals have a problem? Kyler Murray through 41 times.
00:02:57
Looks like you may have a shoulder issue in this game is, Well, what did you glean from last night's game? If anything, first thing I glean is I don't know how they can physically talk about D K Metcalf Mawr than they do on the telecast or the pregame show.
00:03:12
Like I, I think that he is in otherworldly talent like he is a physical specimen.
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He's great, but like he had three catches for a touchdown.
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But nobody talks about Tyler Lockett.
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The way that they talk about D.
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K.
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Metcalf and Tyler Lockett had, like nine or 10 catches yesterday was like the security blanket for Russell Wilson, but, like they just keep showing D K.
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Metcalf 40 time like anytime there, like we have a lull, let's just show him sprinting down the field as quickly as possible, right? I will say that would be the equivalent if we came on and solely talked about the sack.
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One Barkley injury.
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If we brought that up every every week at least once, you know, once or twice across three episodes a week.
00:03:54
If we always went back to the well, like you have time to prep for this stuff, right? Like we put together a good show.
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I think we've got a lot of information to cover here today.
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The idea that comeback game you're like.
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But do you remember this image of him with the shirt off there like he is a jacked guy? No, I think it's even more representative of like, Did you know that Sichuan Barkley has big quads? It's like that.
00:04:15
That is kind of like the perfect, like every show we talked about Sichuan Barclays quads.
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It's like the announcers talking about D.
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K. Metcalf, but I digress.
00:04:23
In that game, I think it told me a couple different things.
00:04:26
One, I put a little wager on the Seattle Seahawks because I'm a subscriber to You're never as bad as your worst game, and you're never as good as your best play.
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Which is what happened to the Cardinals last week.
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Like everyone forgot that they were losing until Kyler Murray through a Hill mayor, right, Like they're not like this world beating team.
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And, you know, the Seahawks had them beat last time.
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They missed a field goal, and then it went over time and you know the Cardinals one.
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I mean, the big the biggest take away from me.
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Was the Seattle defense look competent? Dunlap played great, you know.
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They needed another pass rusher.
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They got one in Dunlap.
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And I think if that defense can be serviceable middle of the road, we already know what Russell Wilson and that offense can dio.
00:05:10
Yeah, it's interesting, because coming into it like the Cardinals offensive line, has been playing better.
00:05:14
So these are things to think about.
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If you're if you're talking about when the Giants are gonna take them on, their offensive line has looked better.
00:05:19
Over the course of the season, they've been rising up the rankings in the NFL.
00:05:22
Seattle's offensive line has been relatively in shambles the entire year on.
00:05:27
They haven't had a good running attack, but they got back Carlos Hyde and that clearly paid dividends for them as well in terms of balancing things out, you know, the defense of side of the ball is interesting for both these teams, and it makes me think that if you wanna look ahead or keep an eye on these teams before the Giants take him on, think about how does the secondaries look against key matchups against wide receiver groups? Right, Like lock.
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It has another big game there.
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So that's a nice sign when you look at the weapons that we have, obviously, so you have to kind of look at those things.
00:05:53
I The weird thing for me is now, as you mentioned Cardinals or just a hell Mary touchdown past not being caught away from being a 500 team and only being one game ahead of the San Francisco 40 Niners who we know what they've gone through this season and then, likewise, if you go inside the schedules for really both these teams with Seattle is well, they played a lot of bad teams and it doesn't mean anything, you know, necessarily egregious.
00:06:13
But when you talk about playoff picture, I don't think the Green Bay Packers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the world are going to be terrified to maybe play any of the teams out of the West.
00:06:24
And I'm not trying diminish them.
00:06:25
But I just don't think any of them are great.
00:06:27
I think they're all pretty good on the Cardinals side.
00:06:30
Adam Trivia time for you, who led the team in tackles for the Cardinals.
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Oh, good Lord, I boy, I have absolutely zero response for that.
00:06:44
I'll say I'll say Peterson, because he was tackling wide receivers that were catching a lot of balls on him.
00:06:48
That is.
00:06:49
Ah, good guess.
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That's what you would think.
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He was actually fifth on the team in tackles.
00:06:52
Uh, you know, if you're tough two or three, then it's a reasonable guest theme.
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Correct.
00:06:58
Answer is Isaiah Simmons.
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Did you know Isaiah Simmons is now getting playing time for the Arizona Cardinals? There you go.
00:07:07
Well, listen good for him. Good for him.
00:07:09
Good for him there.
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Yeah, I I It's like for me on Isaiah Simmons.
00:07:15
Like Giant fans really wanted him.
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He didn't play the entire like he spent, like, six snaps the whole year.
00:07:20
They finally let him loose against Russell Wilson as, like, the spy in the middle of the field.
00:07:24
And he leads the team in tackles.
00:07:27
Yeah, let me not on my team.
00:07:29
So you know, on And they lost the game, so I'd be more impressive.
00:07:34
Isaiah Simmons was doing a lot of work, and it was the linchpin of the cardinals getting a victory there.
00:07:38
So you know you don't get it.
00:07:39
Listen, buddy, as you know, um, if you're not on my roster, you're dead to me.
00:07:45
Um, if you don't send me text messages as Andy is aware, he has to do every single morning and say, Buddy, you're handsome.
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You're You're living the dream.
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People envy your lifestyle, Andy.
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Dead to may.
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I have told you consistently that you're off the podcast If I don't get loving endorsing messages at least 2 to 7 times a day, I mean, that's intense.
00:08:06
You know, I thought we were gonna go a completely different way with this with I say Simmons being like, Well, Dr fans wanted him.
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He's finally running into form.
00:08:13
Doing goes in all of the different motivated messages I send you every morning.
00:08:19
So that's good for make.
00:08:20
Now, listen on the Simmons front, it will be interesting to see other developed.
00:08:23
By the way I think this goes.
00:08:24
This does go back to the draft and you think about any of these players any of these guys, they all get hyped up.
00:08:30
They all get touted in the physical traits.
00:08:32
But guess what everyone also knows is a universal truth.
00:08:34
Every one of the NFL is a freak athlete, right? Like everyone in the NFL has amazing skill sets.
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And it does take getting in learning playbooks, getting your feet underneath, you figuring out how you fit in particular systems.
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So at the end of the day, as much as you get hyped up on guys and I I do this to, you know, so do you.
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We all get really zoned in on certain players that we think are going to be explosive and dynamic.
00:08:56
You also the wait and see.
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And then, you know.
00:08:59
So all these young rookie players in the league, let's go talk to me a year to talk to me in Year three, when we really get a sense of what these guys were capable of and how they fit into the NFL landscape that, you know, you know what's interesting at, um, there's someone that's not going to get a year two or year three? Um, the Giants coaching staff.
00:09:16
Do you know who that might be? Well, buddy, what a lovely transition into First off last off as we know this is again rising the charts in terms of our favorite segments.
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The fans, air speaking.
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They love it.
00:09:29
First off last off.
00:09:31
First off, some shakeups on the New York football Giants coaching staff have come as Columbo is out.
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And let's see if Adam has what it takes as Dave.
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Oh, I couldn't even start it, right? Do DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo yes, also noticed the Gooch, I believe if, which is I.
00:09:55
I thought something you go to the doctor for.
00:09:57
But it turns out it's just a nickname of this offensive line coach.
00:09:59
Let's break it down for the people where what essentially happens is over the last three weeks going back to the Tampa Bay game.
00:10:06
Joe Judge, as a lot of NFL coaches do, by the way head coaches look across the roster in a week to week basis, they say, what area? The team is struggling.
00:10:13
That's where I'm gonna focus some of my extra energy.
00:10:15
So he goes over and starts to help out with the offensive line in Colombo.
00:10:18
We've seen improvement from the offensive line over the last three weeks.
00:10:21
Ultimately, though, Judge understands and realized I I can't do this every single week, so he brings in a guy who has experience has been around the NFL on a lot of different teams.
00:10:31
He's known to be able to flip and give success toe offensive lines.
00:10:35
And he's also known to be a bristly player.
00:10:37
Uh, you know, officially personality with players.
00:10:40
Also, they make that switch.
00:10:43
And Colombo, as it turns out, doesn't love essentially being told he's not so good at his job.
00:10:49
We're gonna pseudo give it away to someone.
00:10:50
Well, I mean, where do we want to go with this, Adam? Because while, uh, gouache kind of came in and he was supposed to be in an offensive line consultant initially, Colombo didn't like any of this that was going on.
00:11:07
Felt like Why do we need to offensive line coaches and Joe judges like, very good point, Mr Colombo? I e think you're a very astute man.
00:11:15
Um, the challenges is what actually transpired because you're hearing so many different reports.
00:11:24
Um, the one that's the most fun to talk about is thean Issue a report by Jason McIntyre.
00:11:30
And trust me, you could take whatever Jason McIntyre says with a grain of salt literally.
00:11:34
Um, but his hot scoop that he put out there was that it was fisticuffs between Colombo and Joe Judge over this decision to bring Gugasian and immediately after they had a fistfight, Joe judge fired him.
00:11:51
Yeah, I mean, turns out, none of turns out none of that was really, um But I like the idea of if you're gonna go hot, take you.
00:12:01
Might as well really shoot the moon on it right now at that point, too.
00:12:04
By the way, if you're looking to go that direction, then it's got to be more like, uh, this has to be Peter Griffin versus the chicken scenario where the fight start.
00:12:13
It starts in the coach's room.
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It spills onto the practice field.
00:12:16
They roll onto the team bus.
00:12:18
The bus drives down to the Children of the Cincinnati for the next week's game.
00:12:23
After the bye week, they spill out there, the Bangles mascot gets involved briefly, and then they settle down and say, Listen, ultimately I'll be back one day, but maybe it's best if we part ways, I will say, even though it was a ridiculous take, and it's like a ****y take.
00:12:38
My favorite part of the take is not that they said that they went into, You know, it was that Jason McIntyre decided.
00:12:45
Thio let everyone know.
00:12:46
Colombo seems to have gotten the better of Joe Judge swinging match like it's not that they fought.
00:12:52
It's like who won round one like, let's let's let's focus on that because it gives the fake take just that, like a little bit of like, wow, like they actually had had a fight, right? E.
00:13:04
My favorite thing was when somebody, as the reports of the official reports, end up being that basically like it gets into a heated discussion.
00:13:10
Essentially Columbus not thrilled about it.
00:13:11
And you can understand why, uh, you know he's a bring over along with Jason Garrett.
00:13:15
You know, Judge trusted Garrett to bring him in.
00:13:18
That's not It's not a mark on Garrett anyway, either.
00:13:20
Just a coach you have on your staff.
00:13:21
So he brings him in, they get into a heated argument.
00:13:24
And as the report goes, you know, called Joe Judge the worst possible name that you could call him, and that led to his dismissal from the team and somebody out there on social media.
00:13:34
I wish I could get the credit for it.
00:13:35
I just heard it in the wind.
00:13:36
They go, Oh, my God, They called him Adam Gays, which I thought was just about as brilliant as you could go in the current NFL landscape.
00:13:44
So listen, it is interesting and fun.
00:13:46
Let's I want to just sit and stew in it and enjoy it a little bit.
00:13:50
And also, let's just think about it from the reality of some some people asked, Is this gonna be, uh, I saw it out there like, Oh, is this a referendum now on Jason Garrett? And when his time with the team, I don't think this is.
00:14:01
I don't think one thing has to do anything with the other because by the way, again, the consultant that they brought in kind of similar in terms of personality.
00:14:08
From what you hear to Colombo, bristly people don't love him. He's a little bit abrasive.
00:14:12
He's very blunt, and also he's been known to be able to have some success.
00:14:16
Goucher has been around. He has ties.
00:14:18
Thio New England with Joe Judge.
00:14:20
He's been on the giant staff going back from 0408 so he's known to be able to help offensive lines turn around quickly, and that's what excites me about it.
00:14:28
It also excites me to know that if Joe Judge poked his nose over to the offensive line room, one of the things that I don't know if we mentioned on the podcast or not was that Andrew Thomas came in.
00:14:37
And what we all know about Thomas coming out of the draft, they said the safest pick for the offer.
00:14:42
An offensive lineman is technically sound.
00:14:44
And then all of a sudden you see how he's reaching and he's off balance.
00:14:47
Well, you know what's going on here.
00:14:48
And they said that maybe around the Tampa Bay game he went back to the technique that he was using at Georgia.
00:14:55
So the question of if you're Colombo and you were trying to beat in your technique, how you want him to play, and it's not working for week, one week to four or five, at some point, you gotta go.
00:15:07
Okay, let's bring it back to the basics.
00:15:09
Let's go with what you know and worry about some things we want to really work on in the off season.
00:15:14
The fact that maybe it took Joe Judge stepping in to get to that point is not a great look for Colombo.
00:15:18
And I like that.
00:15:20
This maybe could be indicative of Of what? This offensive line on what Thomas could do over the remainder of the season.
00:15:25
Yeah.
00:15:26
I mean, the offensive line was ranked 29th out of all, all the teams.
00:15:29
So, like, even with the using a top five draft pick? Yeah, exactly.
00:15:35
Like even with all the adjustments that they made, they still were or not performing as well as I could.
00:15:39
Now we've seen promised over the last couple of weeks, which is why this movie so surprising.
00:15:44
But then as you dive in, as you said, peel the layers of the onion back.
00:15:47
You start to see that Joe Judge took more active role.
00:15:51
It sounds like there there were.
00:15:53
They were odds on how they wanted this offensive line to kind of shape up for the last, you know, last portion of the season.
00:15:59
He's bringing in reinforcements.
00:16:01
Colombo doesn't like it feels threatened, and ultimately, you know, hey, ends up going by the wayside.
00:16:06
I'm fine with it.
00:16:07
I think we need someone to figure out the direction of this offensive line.
00:16:10
While while I like the rotation that we're putting in there to try people at some point like there's no other team, that's that's like subbing in.
00:16:18
It's not like hockey, where you like, have shifts of people come in and out of line or we are breaking the Third Law.
00:16:25
Yeah, exactly like we need some consistency so that the players concern image there and, like, figure out, Is it Shane let me on the left or the right is that we're here long term is Hernandez still starter is pert, the right, and you know the answer.
00:16:40
On the right side, someone needs to figure out these answers and relatively quick, because we need to know what we need, you know, going into the remainder of the season 100% now on the other side of first off, last off last off upcoming here.
00:16:54
Over the course of this weekend, we're going to get an opportunity to during the bye week for the New York football giants.
00:17:00
See some things we know, right? We talked about it on Wednesday.
00:17:04
I got incredible accolades from Andy over my at least cautionary tale around shooting for the division and what it's going to take.
00:17:11
But this upcoming weekend, we're going to see the Eagles play the Browns.
00:17:15
That is both a team we need to lose in the Eagles and a team we're gonna play in Cleveland coming up in the weeks ahead.
00:17:21
We're also going to see uh, the Cowboys taking on the Vikings.
00:17:25
That's an important one to watch, because do any of the Cowboys will have the Cowboys lose doesn't hurt.
00:17:30
But we're you know, we can also just remove them from the equation as far as concerns around the division.
00:17:35
And then, of course, the final piece And more important, probably even in the Dallas game is Washington football.
00:17:40
Let's get them a loss against the Bangles, the team that we're going to see coming out of the bye week.
00:17:45
So, you know, on top of seeing Seattle and Arizona last night, two teams will play over the course of this weekend.
00:17:52
We can strengthen our opportunity within the division and also gleam what it looks like to take on some of these other teams.
00:17:59
Are you? You know? What do you want to see from the Eagles against the Browns? I We all would love to see the Eagles get pummeled.
00:18:05
But what I'd rather see is that they beat the Eagles first and also maybe don't look so great doing it.
00:18:13
All right, so I have a ton of opinions on this, and I'm probably all the way on an island by myself.
00:18:19
The first one is, I don't care about the Eagles anymore.
00:18:24
I don't They are a terrible team.
00:18:26
I think they're the worst team in the NFC East like that is, that is a tough to take to have.
00:18:32
Yet they have the best odds to win the division.
00:18:34
I I just don't see this as a good team.
00:18:37
Everyone keeps thinking of Carson Wentz Pro Bowl year year, too.
00:18:40
He has been the worst quarterback in the league this year like he can't like.
00:18:47
His completion percentage is one of the worst in the league, and then his interceptions is the worst inlay and he's getting sacked at an incredible rate cause he's holding on the ball too much.
00:18:56
They are so like to me.
00:18:58
I don't understand why people still pick them to win.
00:19:01
The fact that it's a three point spread against the Browns is disrespectful to the Browns.
00:19:05
Like if I was a Browns player, I would I would go in there and be like that to him.
00:19:09
Ah, field, that's That's what you're saying to me after the Giants just handed them their lunch.
00:19:13
Like what? We're six and three like, Hello? Have you watched this play like any game? Have you seen Carson once play.
00:19:19
Do you know we have Myles Garrett who's gonna destroy him like crazy? That's in Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland.
00:19:25
Correct? Yeah, yeah, I think it's in Cleveland, so that's neutral.
00:19:28
That's a neutral site to pick him game.
00:19:31
Yeah, that's what to me.
00:19:33
I'm like, I mean, as you can tell, I will probably throw a little bit of a wager on that game, but But, like I, if anyone was going to take a pick to win the NFC East and it wasn't the Giants, I think it's got to be the Washington football team, and people may think that I'm crazy, but they have a a decent defense.
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They have ah, competent quarterback and Alex Smith.
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He's not.
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He's not gonna, uh, you know, light and like the world on fire.
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But at the same time he can still get the ball down.
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The field threw for 300 yards last week.
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If you look at the schedule, Washington football team has the Bengals and the Cowboys coming up, they could theoretically win both of those games.
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They also have the 40 Niners later in the year who are struggling and decimated with injuries.
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They play the Panthers later, who are gonna be out of the playoffs, and they get the Eagles in the last week of the season.
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So, like my my hot take is, the Washington football team has a half.
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I think they're the biggest threat to the Giants in terms of winning the NFC East.
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So you would say then when we talked about on Wednesday what I was saying, like Listen like you may have to look at it and go seven wins right to get over that tie that the Eagles have in their pocket.
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But you're looking at and saying, Well, I don't think the Eagles or even going to get to, you know, maybe there'll be a five wins at best, and then a six win team, potentially in the Washington football team, we would have the tiebreak against because we swept them in the division series this season, so that would allow us to go ahead and give ourselves a clear path at as a six and 10 team into the playoffs.
00:20:59
I mean, the simple answer is is Vegas notes.
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The Eagles are underdogs in their game against the Browns.
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The Washington football team is favored against the Bengals.
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You If things play out the way that you expect them Thio Washington is going to get a win. The Eagles are gonna lose.
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And if you look at the Eagle schedule, you know we talked about before Adam, like they have to win this game against the Browns because coming up there the four games after that are the Seahawks, Packers, Saints and Cardinals for the Eagles.
00:21:25
Like I don't see a win in any of those games.
00:21:28
So like when you think about going, going one and three, Yeah, when you look at the schedule, he said, Well, one and three over that four game stretch.
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So you know you get Seattle or you're gonna get the Cardinals.
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But the Saints in the Packers game, we're gonna be incredibly hard.
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Thio, Expecto win.
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So you're right.
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Now listen, I guess it's fair.
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I mean, by the way, Like I hope that's the way it breaks, right? I hope.
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I hope it goes exactly that direction for the Eagles so that we feel more comfortable and confident we can do, and also because you said it.
00:21:52
I don't care about the Eagles.
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I'll even go a step further.
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I also don't care about the Washington football team.
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I also don't care about the Dallas Cowboys.
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What I care about is the Giants and how we perform.
00:22:00
Because at the end of the day, if we come out and lose against the Bangles after the bye week, well, guess what? It's over, right? Like you know what I mean.
00:22:06
Like in essence, you're like, Well, that was kind of the one that we were putting a check mark next to to continue this this rise for the division.
00:22:13
So it all comes down to us still winning the games, right? All these teams could lose and lose and lose.
00:22:18
But if we finish the season with four wins, it turns out it's not going to give us much of a chance to take the division.
00:22:23
So You're probably right, I think watching the Bangles, how they play watching the Browns, how they play as well.
00:22:29
Those air still things that we can learn about how we think our team can match up against them in the coming weeks is we had down the stretch looking toe.
00:22:37
Get ourselves in that conversation, Adam.
00:22:39
You didn't even realize.
00:22:40
But subliminally in our first off last off segment, you ended up saying at the end of the day, Well, excuse me.
00:22:47
Good, sir.
00:22:48
Another just I tell you what.
00:22:49
By the end of the week, this guy ATM, as we refer to him, really knows how to transition.
00:22:55
Because at the end of the day, Andy, at the end of the day, what do we want to see over the upcoming bye week? Right.
00:23:04
The Giants have a week off.
00:23:06
A little bit of of a fracas there.
00:23:08
We got Colombo out. We've brought in another.
00:23:10
Another consultant will now take over offensive line duties.
00:23:13
You know, when I look at it, you actually highlighted it there in the previous segment.
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I do want to see what what goes on with the offensive line over the course of this week.
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Are we stabilizing and getting a five man line and moving away from the rotation? Or is that still going to be a part of the process for this team going forward? I think now, having a bye week does present the opportunity to say yes, We've been rotating guys because we haven't had an opportunity catch our breath here and make some concrete decisions so potentially that could be the case, understanding that Zeitler is still gonna be dealing with an injury.
00:23:44
So you know that Hernandez and Lamu are both going to be in on this offensive line, no matter what Gates is gonna be there.
00:23:51
And then the question start to come up around Pert and already gonna maybe start to plug him in over Fleming with consistency at the right side, potentially and then the other thing.
00:24:00
The other side of it for me as well, of course, is I almost didn't say his name because I didn't want to.
00:24:05
James thinks it.
00:24:06
But Xavier McKinney, if I can hear that, they're like, Oh, yeah, by the way, lock it up.
00:24:12
He's there for week 12 against the Bangles.
00:24:14
That changes the dynamic for me.
00:24:15
on this defense is.
00:24:16
We've highlighted.
00:24:17
It changes my outlook about the rest of the season because now some of these games Seattle, Arizona If you could bring a Seattle.
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If you could bring in a dynamic defensive playmaker, that helps flesh out our depth there.
00:24:30
That changes my perception of the games that are winnable.
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Lose herbal, you know, tossup games, etcetera.
00:24:34
So there was a couple of things that I'm keeping my eye on.
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Where? Where does Andrew MCA? Let's go.
00:24:39
One word and one word only confidence.
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The Giants have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback.
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The Giants are starting to hit their stride.
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I want to hear a confident team.
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I want to hear a team that's going into this game against the Bengals, saying We expect to win this game.
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We are game planning.
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We are confident that our matchups and are game plan and what we're going to be doing is going to beat the Bengals thes air.
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The types of games if we want to start a winning culture as John as you know, Giant fans is a giant organization thes air games against the Bengals that we should be going into saying we are going to win them.
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It shouldn't be like, I don't know, Joe Burrows look great.
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It's like rookie quarterback on a struggling team with a middling defense.
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We should go in feeling confident.
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If we can't be the Bengals.
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Even I know it's on the road.
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And all indications are that we're gonna be underdogs in this game, which is another mind boggling thing to me.
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If we can't go into this game saying we expect when then we're further behind than I ever thought.
00:25:45
Yeah, that's fair, man.
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And I was just pulling up Joe Burrow and looking over, you know, his game logs and how this team has fared with two wins.
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Obviously, the Thai mixed in there also.
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But you know, there's games here this last one against Pittsburgh.
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Sack four times weeks prior against Cleveland, sacked four times seven sacks by the Baltimore Ravens, eight sacks against the Philadelphia Eagles early in the season.
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So you can get pressure on this kid.
00:26:08
As good as he's looked in, the offense has at times been dynamic for them.
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There's gonna be opportunities to put pressure on him and hopefully force mistakes.
00:26:15
You're probably right man, the defense's side of the ball and I will say, because we brought this up a number of times, you know, we're three and 17.
00:26:22
But when you talk about turning the corner as a franchise, when you come out of a bye week and you play a rookie quarterback and your defense has been strong this year for you, this is a statement kind of game, right? This is where you again say, Let's continue to follow the formula that we've used against our division opponents these last couple of games.
00:26:40
Daniel Jones control things.
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Don't turn it over.
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Use your legs when you can.
00:26:45
And then let's let the defense really take control of this thing and dictate the tempo and put ourselves in a position to have I don't know, not E.
00:26:52
There's no easy victories in the NFL, but not only the Philly game, 27 17, kind of comfortable by the end of the four, you know, in the middle way through that fourth quarter, feeling confident about how the script was gonna go the rest of the way, that's what I think that that should be building towards.
00:27:05
So you're right.
00:27:06
You're right confidence is probably key here, and they should be bullish about their opportunity.
00:27:09
Right? There's there's no excuses.
00:27:12
You know, Fast forward a week and a half after you've eaten your Thanksgiving and you sleep on the couch watching, watching foot all day on Thursday, you know you get you get through the Bye week this this weekend as well.
00:27:24
On Monday morning after the Giants play, there is no reason why we should be sitting here making excuses for this team.
00:27:30
If there's a loss like they have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback and if we think this team is progressing the way they are, these are the games that we expect to win, not hope to win, not think they can win.
00:27:43
Expect to win.
00:27:45
Is there any world where you could lose the game against the Bangles and not feel terrible about it? Like, is there any scenario that because I'm like, legitimately right? Because you'd say, Well, even if even if Burrows being explosive, you'd say.
00:27:56
But since it is a bad defense, we should be able to match them, like for like even if, uh, what? Even if their defense steps up a little bit.
00:28:04
You say right, but we have We have, Ah, credible.
00:28:07
You know, I think I think Adams breaking up there a little bit.
00:28:22
I think what Adam was going to say is there's basically Onley.
00:28:26
One way the Giants lose this game is if they play poorly on offense and defense.
00:28:29
If one side steps up because of the way that that the Bengals air constructed, they have a terrible defense in a terrible offensive line.
00:28:36
You know, the Giants should be able to see success.
00:28:38
We should be able to move the ball.
00:28:39
Or we should be able to get pressure on Joe Burrow.
00:28:41
If we don't do any of those things to me, there's just no excuses.
00:28:44
Uh, you know, coming out of that game.
00:28:47
And that's why I feel so bullish about the Giants.
00:28:49
You know, coming out of this bye week is I think that Joe Judge is gonna have them prepared.
00:28:54
We have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback.
00:28:57
If that's not an indication of what success can look like that I don't know what we're doing.
00:29:02
And like I said before to wrap things up, I'm not really concerned about Philly.
00:29:06
I'm more concerned about the Washington football team who, coincidentally, is playing those Bengals this weekend and you'll get a sneak peek of what these Bengals look like, what we should expect from them.
00:29:15
You know, I don't see a scenario where the Bengals just go in and man handle the Washington football team, but, hey, you never know.
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working over the fair is the healthy, the wealthy, the wise Mr Andrew Sebastian.
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MCA wits.
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Adam, I'm fired up this morning.
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I am as fired up as maybe the Big Tuna is about the Giants.
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What do you think? I love that This guy is just tuna voting it out down there in Florida.
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And when somebody finally asked for his opinion, you know, throws it out there you haven't heard from you don't hear from Bill Parcells during the year.
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Anything he's not, really, you know. Ah, public.
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I figure in the NFL.
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They asked him the question.
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What do you think about what's going on there, ***? I like it.
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I like it a lot.
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I like what this coach is about. I like what they're doing.
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They're they're getting some grits right there, getting some some old school kind of New York football giants mentality to them.
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He thinks that this team's going in the right direction.
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Adam, I have a very serious question for you.
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When I say the Big Tuna or I say, tuna, do you immediately go to Bill Parcells or do you go to the office first? Which which one is it? Well, Azaz Andy.
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Bernard Just like cornered the market on tuna, I think Big tuna, you know, like that.
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Then it gets your mind there.
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Oh, got a got a big one on the line here.
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We g o who put somebody better Tell me who put my food? My my stuff in Jell O I'm gonna lose my freaking mind.
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Uh, what an underrated character on the show.
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I think everyone just thinks that he's like the dopey guy, but he he's actually one of the common threads that carries them along through, like the Michael Scott leaving era, I think at least well and not and not for nothing here, here's the problem not to complete sidetrack our podcast before we even get started.
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The problem is that that that that is, as um Ed Helms is like he's hitting his meteoric rise to s****om so they end up giving him time off to go to the hangover when that stuff pops off.
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That's why he goes on the weird Baki boat trip.
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The bottom line being that character goes through a lot of phases.
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And that's what's weird to me for him.
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I think if they If you keep him in the other branch like and then he gets incorporated and he's just that guy.
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That's like losing his mind about stuff randomly and punching Walls.
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Then it's a dreamscape.
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But it's also hard to waste the talent that is at Helm's.
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Uh, hey, listen, I agree.
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Either way, I love me.
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Some Ed Helms, Andy Bernard Still underrated character.
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Fair enough. Fair enough.
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This is exactly how we scripted the start of the podcast.
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This is where we thought we would go.
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It is the Friday show.
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The Giants are, of course, on a bye week.
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So we get to maybe have a little bit more fun.
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But we can start out with a couple of different things that we saw obviously coming off of the Thursday night game where the Seahawks were able to hold off.
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Remember, they lost 37 34 in overtime to the Cardinals a few weeks back in the season, they get a 28 21 victory here.
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Uh, these are two teams that we're going to see right over the remainder of our season.
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Was this affirmation that Seattle is legit? Do the Cardinals have a problem? Kyler Murray through 41 times.
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Looks like you may have a shoulder issue in this game is, Well, what did you glean from last night's game? If anything, first thing I glean is I don't know how they can physically talk about D K Metcalf Mawr than they do on the telecast or the pregame show.
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Like I, I think that he is in otherworldly talent like he is a physical specimen.
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He's great, but like he had three catches for a touchdown.
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But nobody talks about Tyler Lockett.
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The way that they talk about D.
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K.
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Metcalf and Tyler Lockett had, like nine or 10 catches yesterday was like the security blanket for Russell Wilson, but, like they just keep showing D K.
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Metcalf 40 time like anytime there, like we have a lull, let's just show him sprinting down the field as quickly as possible, right? I will say that would be the equivalent if we came on and solely talked about the sack.
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One Barkley injury.
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If we brought that up every every week at least once, you know, once or twice across three episodes a week.
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If we always went back to the well, like you have time to prep for this stuff, right? Like we put together a good show.
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I think we've got a lot of information to cover here today.
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The idea that comeback game you're like.
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But do you remember this image of him with the shirt off there like he is a jacked guy? No, I think it's even more representative of like, Did you know that Sichuan Barkley has big quads? It's like that.
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That is kind of like the perfect, like every show we talked about Sichuan Barclays quads.
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It's like the announcers talking about D.
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K. Metcalf, but I digress.
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In that game, I think it told me a couple different things.
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One, I put a little wager on the Seattle Seahawks because I'm a subscriber to You're never as bad as your worst game, and you're never as good as your best play.
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Which is what happened to the Cardinals last week.
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Like everyone forgot that they were losing until Kyler Murray through a Hill mayor, right, Like they're not like this world beating team.
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And, you know, the Seahawks had them beat last time.
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They missed a field goal, and then it went over time and you know the Cardinals one.
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I mean, the big the biggest take away from me.
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Was the Seattle defense look competent? Dunlap played great, you know.
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They needed another pass rusher.
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They got one in Dunlap.
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And I think if that defense can be serviceable middle of the road, we already know what Russell Wilson and that offense can dio.
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Yeah, it's interesting, because coming into it like the Cardinals offensive line, has been playing better.
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So these are things to think about.
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If you're if you're talking about when the Giants are gonna take them on, their offensive line has looked better.
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Over the course of the season, they've been rising up the rankings in the NFL.
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Seattle's offensive line has been relatively in shambles the entire year on.
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They haven't had a good running attack, but they got back Carlos Hyde and that clearly paid dividends for them as well in terms of balancing things out, you know, the defense of side of the ball is interesting for both these teams, and it makes me think that if you wanna look ahead or keep an eye on these teams before the Giants take him on, think about how does the secondaries look against key matchups against wide receiver groups? Right, Like lock.
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It has another big game there.
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So that's a nice sign when you look at the weapons that we have, obviously, so you have to kind of look at those things.
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I The weird thing for me is now, as you mentioned Cardinals or just a hell Mary touchdown past not being caught away from being a 500 team and only being one game ahead of the San Francisco 40 Niners who we know what they've gone through this season and then, likewise, if you go inside the schedules for really both these teams with Seattle is well, they played a lot of bad teams and it doesn't mean anything, you know, necessarily egregious.
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But when you talk about playoff picture, I don't think the Green Bay Packers, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the world are going to be terrified to maybe play any of the teams out of the West.
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And I'm not trying diminish them.
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But I just don't think any of them are great.
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I think they're all pretty good on the Cardinals side.
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Adam Trivia time for you, who led the team in tackles for the Cardinals.
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Oh, good Lord, I boy, I have absolutely zero response for that.
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I'll say I'll say Peterson, because he was tackling wide receivers that were catching a lot of balls on him.
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That is.
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Ah, good guess.
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That's what you would think.
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He was actually fifth on the team in tackles.
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Uh, you know, if you're tough two or three, then it's a reasonable guest theme.
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Correct.
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Answer is Isaiah Simmons.
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Did you know Isaiah Simmons is now getting playing time for the Arizona Cardinals? There you go.
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Well, listen good for him. Good for him.
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Good for him there.
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Yeah, I I It's like for me on Isaiah Simmons.
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Like Giant fans really wanted him.
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He didn't play the entire like he spent, like, six snaps the whole year.
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They finally let him loose against Russell Wilson as, like, the spy in the middle of the field.
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And he leads the team in tackles.
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Yeah, let me not on my team.
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So you know, on And they lost the game, so I'd be more impressive.
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Isaiah Simmons was doing a lot of work, and it was the linchpin of the cardinals getting a victory there.
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So you know you don't get it.
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Listen, buddy, as you know, um, if you're not on my roster, you're dead to me.
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Um, if you don't send me text messages as Andy is aware, he has to do every single morning and say, Buddy, you're handsome.
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You're You're living the dream.
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People envy your lifestyle, Andy.
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Dead to may.
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I have told you consistently that you're off the podcast If I don't get loving endorsing messages at least 2 to 7 times a day, I mean, that's intense.
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You know, I thought we were gonna go a completely different way with this with I say Simmons being like, Well, Dr fans wanted him.
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He's finally running into form.
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Doing goes in all of the different motivated messages I send you every morning.
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So that's good for make.
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Now, listen on the Simmons front, it will be interesting to see other developed.
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By the way I think this goes.
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This does go back to the draft and you think about any of these players any of these guys, they all get hyped up.
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They all get touted in the physical traits.
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But guess what everyone also knows is a universal truth.
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Every one of the NFL is a freak athlete, right? Like everyone in the NFL has amazing skill sets.
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And it does take getting in learning playbooks, getting your feet underneath, you figuring out how you fit in particular systems.
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So at the end of the day, as much as you get hyped up on guys and I I do this to, you know, so do you.
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We all get really zoned in on certain players that we think are going to be explosive and dynamic.
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You also the wait and see.
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And then, you know.
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So all these young rookie players in the league, let's go talk to me a year to talk to me in Year three, when we really get a sense of what these guys were capable of and how they fit into the NFL landscape that, you know, you know what's interesting at, um, there's someone that's not going to get a year two or year three? Um, the Giants coaching staff.
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Do you know who that might be? Well, buddy, what a lovely transition into First off last off as we know this is again rising the charts in terms of our favorite segments.
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The fans, air speaking.
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They love it.
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First off last off.
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First off, some shakeups on the New York football Giants coaching staff have come as Columbo is out.
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And let's see if Adam has what it takes as Dave.
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Oh, I couldn't even start it, right? Do DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo DiGuglielmo yes, also noticed the Gooch, I believe if, which is I.
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I thought something you go to the doctor for.
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But it turns out it's just a nickname of this offensive line coach.
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Let's break it down for the people where what essentially happens is over the last three weeks going back to the Tampa Bay game.
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Joe Judge, as a lot of NFL coaches do, by the way head coaches look across the roster in a week to week basis, they say, what area? The team is struggling.
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That's where I'm gonna focus some of my extra energy.
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So he goes over and starts to help out with the offensive line in Colombo.
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We've seen improvement from the offensive line over the last three weeks.
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Ultimately, though, Judge understands and realized I I can't do this every single week, so he brings in a guy who has experience has been around the NFL on a lot of different teams.
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He's known to be able to flip and give success toe offensive lines.
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And he's also known to be a bristly player.
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Uh, you know, officially personality with players.
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Also, they make that switch.
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And Colombo, as it turns out, doesn't love essentially being told he's not so good at his job.
00:10:49
We're gonna pseudo give it away to someone.
00:10:50
Well, I mean, where do we want to go with this, Adam? Because while, uh, gouache kind of came in and he was supposed to be in an offensive line consultant initially, Colombo didn't like any of this that was going on.
00:11:07
Felt like Why do we need to offensive line coaches and Joe judges like, very good point, Mr Colombo? I e think you're a very astute man.
00:11:15
Um, the challenges is what actually transpired because you're hearing so many different reports.
00:11:24
Um, the one that's the most fun to talk about is thean Issue a report by Jason McIntyre.
00:11:30
And trust me, you could take whatever Jason McIntyre says with a grain of salt literally.
00:11:34
Um, but his hot scoop that he put out there was that it was fisticuffs between Colombo and Joe Judge over this decision to bring Gugasian and immediately after they had a fistfight, Joe judge fired him.
00:11:51
Yeah, I mean, turns out, none of turns out none of that was really, um But I like the idea of if you're gonna go hot, take you.
00:12:01
Might as well really shoot the moon on it right now at that point, too.
00:12:04
By the way, if you're looking to go that direction, then it's got to be more like, uh, this has to be Peter Griffin versus the chicken scenario where the fight start.
00:12:13
It starts in the coach's room.
00:12:15
It spills onto the practice field.
00:12:16
They roll onto the team bus.
00:12:18
The bus drives down to the Children of the Cincinnati for the next week's game.
00:12:23
After the bye week, they spill out there, the Bangles mascot gets involved briefly, and then they settle down and say, Listen, ultimately I'll be back one day, but maybe it's best if we part ways, I will say, even though it was a ridiculous take, and it's like a ****y take.
00:12:38
My favorite part of the take is not that they said that they went into, You know, it was that Jason McIntyre decided.
00:12:45
Thio let everyone know.
00:12:46
Colombo seems to have gotten the better of Joe Judge swinging match like it's not that they fought.
00:12:52
It's like who won round one like, let's let's let's focus on that because it gives the fake take just that, like a little bit of like, wow, like they actually had had a fight, right? E.
00:13:04
My favorite thing was when somebody, as the reports of the official reports, end up being that basically like it gets into a heated discussion.
00:13:10
Essentially Columbus not thrilled about it.
00:13:11
And you can understand why, uh, you know he's a bring over along with Jason Garrett.
00:13:15
You know, Judge trusted Garrett to bring him in.
00:13:18
That's not It's not a mark on Garrett anyway, either.
00:13:20
Just a coach you have on your staff.
00:13:21
So he brings him in, they get into a heated argument.
00:13:24
And as the report goes, you know, called Joe Judge the worst possible name that you could call him, and that led to his dismissal from the team and somebody out there on social media.
00:13:34
I wish I could get the credit for it.
00:13:35
I just heard it in the wind.
00:13:36
They go, Oh, my God, They called him Adam Gays, which I thought was just about as brilliant as you could go in the current NFL landscape.
00:13:44
So listen, it is interesting and fun.
00:13:46
Let's I want to just sit and stew in it and enjoy it a little bit.
00:13:50
And also, let's just think about it from the reality of some some people asked, Is this gonna be, uh, I saw it out there like, Oh, is this a referendum now on Jason Garrett? And when his time with the team, I don't think this is.
00:14:01
I don't think one thing has to do anything with the other because by the way, again, the consultant that they brought in kind of similar in terms of personality.
00:14:08
From what you hear to Colombo, bristly people don't love him. He's a little bit abrasive.
00:14:12
He's very blunt, and also he's been known to be able to have some success.
00:14:16
Goucher has been around. He has ties.
00:14:18
Thio New England with Joe Judge.
00:14:20
He's been on the giant staff going back from 0408 so he's known to be able to help offensive lines turn around quickly, and that's what excites me about it.
00:14:28
It also excites me to know that if Joe Judge poked his nose over to the offensive line room, one of the things that I don't know if we mentioned on the podcast or not was that Andrew Thomas came in.
00:14:37
And what we all know about Thomas coming out of the draft, they said the safest pick for the offer.
00:14:42
An offensive lineman is technically sound.
00:14:44
And then all of a sudden you see how he's reaching and he's off balance.
00:14:47
Well, you know what's going on here.
00:14:48
And they said that maybe around the Tampa Bay game he went back to the technique that he was using at Georgia.
00:14:55
So the question of if you're Colombo and you were trying to beat in your technique, how you want him to play, and it's not working for week, one week to four or five, at some point, you gotta go.
00:15:07
Okay, let's bring it back to the basics.
00:15:09
Let's go with what you know and worry about some things we want to really work on in the off season.
00:15:14
The fact that maybe it took Joe Judge stepping in to get to that point is not a great look for Colombo.
00:15:18
And I like that.
00:15:20
This maybe could be indicative of Of what? This offensive line on what Thomas could do over the remainder of the season.
00:15:25
Yeah.
00:15:26
I mean, the offensive line was ranked 29th out of all, all the teams.
00:15:29
So, like, even with the using a top five draft pick? Yeah, exactly.
00:15:35
Like even with all the adjustments that they made, they still were or not performing as well as I could.
00:15:39
Now we've seen promised over the last couple of weeks, which is why this movie so surprising.
00:15:44
But then as you dive in, as you said, peel the layers of the onion back.
00:15:47
You start to see that Joe Judge took more active role.
00:15:51
It sounds like there there were.
00:15:53
They were odds on how they wanted this offensive line to kind of shape up for the last, you know, last portion of the season.
00:15:59
He's bringing in reinforcements.
00:16:01
Colombo doesn't like it feels threatened, and ultimately, you know, hey, ends up going by the wayside.
00:16:06
I'm fine with it.
00:16:07
I think we need someone to figure out the direction of this offensive line.
00:16:10
While while I like the rotation that we're putting in there to try people at some point like there's no other team, that's that's like subbing in.
00:16:18
It's not like hockey, where you like, have shifts of people come in and out of line or we are breaking the Third Law.
00:16:25
Yeah, exactly like we need some consistency so that the players concern image there and, like, figure out, Is it Shane let me on the left or the right is that we're here long term is Hernandez still starter is pert, the right, and you know the answer.
00:16:40
On the right side, someone needs to figure out these answers and relatively quick, because we need to know what we need, you know, going into the remainder of the season 100% now on the other side of first off, last off last off upcoming here.
00:16:54
Over the course of this weekend, we're going to get an opportunity to during the bye week for the New York football giants.
00:17:00
See some things we know, right? We talked about it on Wednesday.
00:17:04
I got incredible accolades from Andy over my at least cautionary tale around shooting for the division and what it's going to take.
00:17:11
But this upcoming weekend, we're going to see the Eagles play the Browns.
00:17:15
That is both a team we need to lose in the Eagles and a team we're gonna play in Cleveland coming up in the weeks ahead.
00:17:21
We're also going to see uh, the Cowboys taking on the Vikings.
00:17:25
That's an important one to watch, because do any of the Cowboys will have the Cowboys lose doesn't hurt.
00:17:30
But we're you know, we can also just remove them from the equation as far as concerns around the division.
00:17:35
And then, of course, the final piece And more important, probably even in the Dallas game is Washington football.
00:17:40
Let's get them a loss against the Bangles, the team that we're going to see coming out of the bye week.
00:17:45
So, you know, on top of seeing Seattle and Arizona last night, two teams will play over the course of this weekend.
00:17:52
We can strengthen our opportunity within the division and also gleam what it looks like to take on some of these other teams.
00:17:59
Are you? You know? What do you want to see from the Eagles against the Browns? I We all would love to see the Eagles get pummeled.
00:18:05
But what I'd rather see is that they beat the Eagles first and also maybe don't look so great doing it.
00:18:13
All right, so I have a ton of opinions on this, and I'm probably all the way on an island by myself.
00:18:19
The first one is, I don't care about the Eagles anymore.
00:18:24
I don't They are a terrible team.
00:18:26
I think they're the worst team in the NFC East like that is, that is a tough to take to have.
00:18:32
Yet they have the best odds to win the division.
00:18:34
I I just don't see this as a good team.
00:18:37
Everyone keeps thinking of Carson Wentz Pro Bowl year year, too.
00:18:40
He has been the worst quarterback in the league this year like he can't like.
00:18:47
His completion percentage is one of the worst in the league, and then his interceptions is the worst inlay and he's getting sacked at an incredible rate cause he's holding on the ball too much.
00:18:56
They are so like to me.
00:18:58
I don't understand why people still pick them to win.
00:19:01
The fact that it's a three point spread against the Browns is disrespectful to the Browns.
00:19:05
Like if I was a Browns player, I would I would go in there and be like that to him.
00:19:09
Ah, field, that's That's what you're saying to me after the Giants just handed them their lunch.
00:19:13
Like what? We're six and three like, Hello? Have you watched this play like any game? Have you seen Carson once play.
00:19:19
Do you know we have Myles Garrett who's gonna destroy him like crazy? That's in Cleveland, Cleveland, Cleveland.
00:19:25
Correct? Yeah, yeah, I think it's in Cleveland, so that's neutral.
00:19:28
That's a neutral site to pick him game.
00:19:31
Yeah, that's what to me.
00:19:33
I'm like, I mean, as you can tell, I will probably throw a little bit of a wager on that game, but But, like I, if anyone was going to take a pick to win the NFC East and it wasn't the Giants, I think it's got to be the Washington football team, and people may think that I'm crazy, but they have a a decent defense.
00:19:52
They have ah, competent quarterback and Alex Smith.
00:19:55
He's not.
00:19:56
He's not gonna, uh, you know, light and like the world on fire.
00:19:59
But at the same time he can still get the ball down.
00:20:01
The field threw for 300 yards last week.
00:20:03
If you look at the schedule, Washington football team has the Bengals and the Cowboys coming up, they could theoretically win both of those games.
00:20:11
They also have the 40 Niners later in the year who are struggling and decimated with injuries.
00:20:17
They play the Panthers later, who are gonna be out of the playoffs, and they get the Eagles in the last week of the season.
00:20:22
So, like my my hot take is, the Washington football team has a half.
00:20:27
I think they're the biggest threat to the Giants in terms of winning the NFC East.
00:20:32
So you would say then when we talked about on Wednesday what I was saying, like Listen like you may have to look at it and go seven wins right to get over that tie that the Eagles have in their pocket.
00:20:40
But you're looking at and saying, Well, I don't think the Eagles or even going to get to, you know, maybe there'll be a five wins at best, and then a six win team, potentially in the Washington football team, we would have the tiebreak against because we swept them in the division series this season, so that would allow us to go ahead and give ourselves a clear path at as a six and 10 team into the playoffs.
00:20:59
I mean, the simple answer is is Vegas notes.
00:21:02
The Eagles are underdogs in their game against the Browns.
00:21:04
The Washington football team is favored against the Bengals.
00:21:07
You If things play out the way that you expect them Thio Washington is going to get a win. The Eagles are gonna lose.
00:21:13
And if you look at the Eagle schedule, you know we talked about before Adam, like they have to win this game against the Browns because coming up there the four games after that are the Seahawks, Packers, Saints and Cardinals for the Eagles.
00:21:25
Like I don't see a win in any of those games.
00:21:28
So like when you think about going, going one and three, Yeah, when you look at the schedule, he said, Well, one and three over that four game stretch.
00:21:34
So you know you get Seattle or you're gonna get the Cardinals.
00:21:36
But the Saints in the Packers game, we're gonna be incredibly hard.
00:21:39
Thio, Expecto win.
00:21:40
So you're right.
00:21:41
Now listen, I guess it's fair.
00:21:42
I mean, by the way, Like I hope that's the way it breaks, right? I hope.
00:21:45
I hope it goes exactly that direction for the Eagles so that we feel more comfortable and confident we can do, and also because you said it.
00:21:52
I don't care about the Eagles.
00:21:53
I'll even go a step further.
00:21:54
I also don't care about the Washington football team.
00:21:56
I also don't care about the Dallas Cowboys.
00:21:58
What I care about is the Giants and how we perform.
00:22:00
Because at the end of the day, if we come out and lose against the Bangles after the bye week, well, guess what? It's over, right? Like you know what I mean.
00:22:06
Like in essence, you're like, Well, that was kind of the one that we were putting a check mark next to to continue this this rise for the division.
00:22:13
So it all comes down to us still winning the games, right? All these teams could lose and lose and lose.
00:22:18
But if we finish the season with four wins, it turns out it's not going to give us much of a chance to take the division.
00:22:23
So You're probably right, I think watching the Bangles, how they play watching the Browns, how they play as well.
00:22:29
Those air still things that we can learn about how we think our team can match up against them in the coming weeks is we had down the stretch looking toe.
00:22:37
Get ourselves in that conversation, Adam.
00:22:39
You didn't even realize.
00:22:40
But subliminally in our first off last off segment, you ended up saying at the end of the day, Well, excuse me.
00:22:47
Good, sir.
00:22:48
Another just I tell you what.
00:22:49
By the end of the week, this guy ATM, as we refer to him, really knows how to transition.
00:22:55
Because at the end of the day, Andy, at the end of the day, what do we want to see over the upcoming bye week? Right.
00:23:04
The Giants have a week off.
00:23:06
A little bit of of a fracas there.
00:23:08
We got Colombo out. We've brought in another.
00:23:10
Another consultant will now take over offensive line duties.
00:23:13
You know, when I look at it, you actually highlighted it there in the previous segment.
00:23:17
I do want to see what what goes on with the offensive line over the course of this week.
00:23:22
Are we stabilizing and getting a five man line and moving away from the rotation? Or is that still going to be a part of the process for this team going forward? I think now, having a bye week does present the opportunity to say yes, We've been rotating guys because we haven't had an opportunity catch our breath here and make some concrete decisions so potentially that could be the case, understanding that Zeitler is still gonna be dealing with an injury.
00:23:44
So you know that Hernandez and Lamu are both going to be in on this offensive line, no matter what Gates is gonna be there.
00:23:51
And then the question start to come up around Pert and already gonna maybe start to plug him in over Fleming with consistency at the right side, potentially and then the other thing.
00:24:00
The other side of it for me as well, of course, is I almost didn't say his name because I didn't want to.
00:24:05
James thinks it.
00:24:06
But Xavier McKinney, if I can hear that, they're like, Oh, yeah, by the way, lock it up.
00:24:12
He's there for week 12 against the Bangles.
00:24:14
That changes the dynamic for me.
00:24:15
on this defense is.
00:24:16
We've highlighted.
00:24:17
It changes my outlook about the rest of the season because now some of these games Seattle, Arizona If you could bring a Seattle.
00:24:24
If you could bring in a dynamic defensive playmaker, that helps flesh out our depth there.
00:24:30
That changes my perception of the games that are winnable.
00:24:32
Lose herbal, you know, tossup games, etcetera.
00:24:34
So there was a couple of things that I'm keeping my eye on.
00:24:36
Where? Where does Andrew MCA? Let's go.
00:24:39
One word and one word only confidence.
00:24:43
The Giants have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback.
00:24:48
The Giants are starting to hit their stride.
00:24:50
I want to hear a confident team.
00:24:53
I want to hear a team that's going into this game against the Bengals, saying We expect to win this game.
00:24:59
We are game planning.
00:25:01
We are confident that our matchups and are game plan and what we're going to be doing is going to beat the Bengals thes air.
00:25:09
The types of games if we want to start a winning culture as John as you know, Giant fans is a giant organization thes air games against the Bengals that we should be going into saying we are going to win them.
00:25:20
It shouldn't be like, I don't know, Joe Burrows look great.
00:25:24
It's like rookie quarterback on a struggling team with a middling defense.
00:25:28
We should go in feeling confident.
00:25:30
If we can't be the Bengals.
00:25:32
Even I know it's on the road.
00:25:33
And all indications are that we're gonna be underdogs in this game, which is another mind boggling thing to me.
00:25:39
If we can't go into this game saying we expect when then we're further behind than I ever thought.
00:25:45
Yeah, that's fair, man.
00:25:46
And I was just pulling up Joe Burrow and looking over, you know, his game logs and how this team has fared with two wins.
00:25:52
Obviously, the Thai mixed in there also.
00:25:54
But you know, there's games here this last one against Pittsburgh.
00:25:57
Sack four times weeks prior against Cleveland, sacked four times seven sacks by the Baltimore Ravens, eight sacks against the Philadelphia Eagles early in the season.
00:26:06
So you can get pressure on this kid.
00:26:08
As good as he's looked in, the offense has at times been dynamic for them.
00:26:12
There's gonna be opportunities to put pressure on him and hopefully force mistakes.
00:26:15
You're probably right man, the defense's side of the ball and I will say, because we brought this up a number of times, you know, we're three and 17.
00:26:22
But when you talk about turning the corner as a franchise, when you come out of a bye week and you play a rookie quarterback and your defense has been strong this year for you, this is a statement kind of game, right? This is where you again say, Let's continue to follow the formula that we've used against our division opponents these last couple of games.
00:26:40
Daniel Jones control things.
00:26:42
Don't turn it over.
00:26:43
Use your legs when you can.
00:26:45
And then let's let the defense really take control of this thing and dictate the tempo and put ourselves in a position to have I don't know, not E.
00:26:52
There's no easy victories in the NFL, but not only the Philly game, 27 17, kind of comfortable by the end of the four, you know, in the middle way through that fourth quarter, feeling confident about how the script was gonna go the rest of the way, that's what I think that that should be building towards.
00:27:05
So you're right.
00:27:06
You're right confidence is probably key here, and they should be bullish about their opportunity.
00:27:09
Right? There's there's no excuses.
00:27:12
You know, Fast forward a week and a half after you've eaten your Thanksgiving and you sleep on the couch watching, watching foot all day on Thursday, you know you get you get through the Bye week this this weekend as well.
00:27:24
On Monday morning after the Giants play, there is no reason why we should be sitting here making excuses for this team.
00:27:30
If there's a loss like they have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback and if we think this team is progressing the way they are, these are the games that we expect to win, not hope to win, not think they can win.
00:27:43
Expect to win.
00:27:45
Is there any world where you could lose the game against the Bangles and not feel terrible about it? Like, is there any scenario that because I'm like, legitimately right? Because you'd say, Well, even if even if Burrows being explosive, you'd say.
00:27:56
But since it is a bad defense, we should be able to match them, like for like even if, uh, what? Even if their defense steps up a little bit.
00:28:04
You say right, but we have We have, Ah, credible.
00:28:07
You know, I think I think Adams breaking up there a little bit.
00:28:22
I think what Adam was going to say is there's basically Onley.
00:28:26
One way the Giants lose this game is if they play poorly on offense and defense.
00:28:29
If one side steps up because of the way that that the Bengals air constructed, they have a terrible defense in a terrible offensive line.
00:28:36
You know, the Giants should be able to see success.
00:28:38
We should be able to move the ball.
00:28:39
Or we should be able to get pressure on Joe Burrow.
00:28:41
If we don't do any of those things to me, there's just no excuses.
00:28:44
Uh, you know, coming out of that game.
00:28:47
And that's why I feel so bullish about the Giants.
00:28:49
You know, coming out of this bye week is I think that Joe Judge is gonna have them prepared.
00:28:54
We have two weeks to prepare for a rookie quarterback.
00:28:57
If that's not an indication of what success can look like that I don't know what we're doing.
00:29:02
And like I said before to wrap things up, I'm not really concerned about Philly.
00:29:06
I'm more concerned about the Washington football team who, coincidentally, is playing those Bengals this weekend and you'll get a sneak peek of what these Bengals look like, what we should expect from them.
00:29:15
You know, I don't see a scenario where the Bengals just go in and man handle the Washington football team, but, hey, you never know.

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