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And as we go through this time of just absolute insanity on the MBA block and just looking at all these draft picks, all these trades and free agencies tomorrow, believe it or not, um, if you guys are listening to this is probably already time for free agency.
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But to join me here on the podcast, I have the great, um, just privilege and just super happy to welcome on Sam Aldridge have actually known this guy for quite a while.
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And I'm so glad to have Sam on the team because there's all this insanity with the draft of free agency has been really hard for me to kind of keep up, throw up new articles and and things like that, with the podcast winning alongside it.
So I'm glad that he's on the team.
And he's able to deliver his expertise in terms of an article that he just posted the other day talking about the draft.
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But Sam, I'm so glad to have you on the pod here, man.
And I'm stoked to talk about free agency and in the draft and stuff here because it's just it's getting wild more wild by the minute.
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Sam, Uh, the draft.
I titled this the most unique draft in history because by all accounts, we've never seen anything like this thing.
Entire draft was basically virtual Adam Silver was in the studio delivering picks like usual, but all the other players were in their homes, respective homes around the country, taking in the draft on TV with their friends and family.
Really cool atmosphere.
Really great to see the reactions after get drafted.
But it just wasn't the same.
I didn't have that same energy and same vibe going through the draft process.
Did you feel some of that Sam as well, you know that these guys were not in studio in person.
Everything is just kind of like separated in their distance from the action.
Super unique year.
You know, it was cool to see some of the kind of in home setups I remember kind of enjoying that with the NFL draft earlier this year and seeing kind of you know where they were celebrating with their family and friends typically, but yeah, it was strange.
It was kind of weird that, you know, they weren't up there taking the hat from Adam Silver and shaking his hand and looking out in the crowd.
And we didn't hear any of those Knicks fans booze this year.
So this year it was a little different, but yeah, no, it was, I think, overall, uh, you know, they did a pretty good job with the broadcast, but yeah, a little weird.
Little strange, definitely.
It's just kind of the nature of environment this year, with everything being kind of virtual and distant.
Uh, you know, it's a definitely a different environment, and, you know, we're not getting the same things were used to.
I mean, you're talking about the next booze Knicks fans booing and everything.
I'm sure we'll be back in full force next year.
I mean, they got a year off, which I'm sure they need with all the, you know, disappointments and just insanity they're dealing with in that van base.
But, you know, rest assured, I mean, they're not going anywhere.
They're still be out there.
They're probably out of their TVs booming.
Actually, if we're really gonna be honest about it, Yeah, for sure.
And you know, I think they actually should have, like, that O p topping pick.
I mean, yeah, it seems like that was a great pick for them, but, you know, they probably would have booted anyways.
Just no insurance.
They're just never content unless they're getting Katie or Kyrie in free agency or something.
They're just like, well, you know, that's a terrible pick.
What are we doing, right? Whatever.
The next pipe dream is next year.
You know, they think they're in for every every major free agent.
And I'm sure for Knicks fans, they would have loved to go number one or number two, you know, top three.
I mean, they really need an infusion off top and talent.
Not sure if I will be.
The topic is gonna be that guy that's gonna lead them to a championship or, you know, being relevant again in terms off being a contender or whatever.
But I mean, at least they got somebody that can really help them immediately, something that's really ready made for the MBA.
But you know what we're talking about? Top and talent.
You know, Let's get into the first segment of this podcast, which is the top three, and this doesn't warrant a whole ton of discussion because we know about these top three players already.
We know what they bring to the table and what their strengths weaknesses are.
But just curious.
Sam, I have my pick here for the best talent.
All those top three guys Edwards, Wiseman and Ball.
Who was your top prospect going into the draft? Who did you want to see? Go number one.
And then maybe if that was different, Who did you think actually had the most upside in this draft class? Absolutely.
Well, I think Edwards was kind of the man here these last couple weeks to go to Minnesota.
Number one, I think, in terms of talent.
I mean, it's either him or Lemelle.
Oh, for me is the topic.
But yeah, I think it's gonna be interesting to see what Edwards could do alongside D'Angelo, Russell and Karl Anthony towns up there in Minnesota.
I think you know his body type in his game fits really well alongside Russell in that backcourt um, for him, you know, it's not really a talent thing.
It's kind of ah mentality, you know, way saw the reports this week about how how much he may or may not love watching basketball.
Um, kind of in his free time.
And you know, you can kind of make of that what you will.
But I think the fact remains that he's a tremendous talent 65 £225 combo guard who can score inside and out.
I think he's gonna be a great player for them and then, in terms of, you know who I think is actually the most talented.
Um, it's a big swing, you know, for Charlotte three.
But I think the mellow ball may actually have the high list.
Highest ceiling in this draft is a 6 ft seven point guard who can dribble.
He's an incredible passer for his size.
I think for me, the biggest concern with him is the fit in Charlotte and the kind of ability to play in a system I know he's been kind of bouncing all over since he was 16 years old and playing in Lithuania and then playing in Australia and, you know, the spotlight that comes with his family.
But Lemelle a ball is probably my pick for the highest ceiling.
You know, if I had to bet, Okay, which guy in this draft is gonna be a multiple time All Star? I would probably go with the mellow, but at the same time, the floor might be lower with him to, you know, with this shooting shooting inefficiencies.
So you know, time will tell.
Yeah, it's It's such a challenging pick between you know, Edwards and Ball because you think about the environment they were in in college and not so much for ball because he played overseas.
And then, you know, his dad's league, which is a huge failure, And that was just a wild environment for him to kind of grow up and learn how to play the game the right way.
So for both of these guys, it's like they had a lot of bad habits built up, you know, over the years and playing basketball.
I think it's just because you know they're in your head and shoulders above the rest of your peers.
It's very easy to kind of get into a habit off, you know, just having tunnel vision.
Maybe in the case of Edwards or maybe for ball, just like the shop selection wasn't there.
You go back and you look at YouTube.
You look at those highlights of him and Chino Hills pulling up from half court.
You're doing that.
You just kind of get used to just, you know, having free rein over your game and just doing whatever you want at any given time, even though the situation doesn't really call for it.
So things like that definitely provide an element of entry, but also risk and just being a little bit concerning for both of these guys going to the best talent overall, I was definitely between those two guys.
I could see the argument for ball his passing, you know, his gift for passing is similar to his brother.
Might actually be even better.
I mean, both of those guys really passers, but I mean, they just have a gift for seeing the floor, which is heightened.
Even Mawr, considering their sizing, being able to see over the defense actually went with Edwards, though as far as like top over overall talent, top end.
I'm just looking at his body.
And I was looking at a ringer piece from earlier today, and it said he actually grew to 66 over the hiatus, like, six months or whatever.
So I mean, you're thinking about a 66 guy with his weight, his strength, his athleticism, which I think is vertical somewhere around 40 inches or something like that, which is absolutely insane.
Yeah, it just doesn't really make sense when you think about his build.
So we're talking about, like, a LeBron type guy, almost in terms of just size and athleticism.
Ah, little bit of a touch of playmaking in there.
Maybe it needs to be brought out.
You know, in a system that really brings forth some of the skills and helps them, you know, develop, but the same thing. It's a shot.
Making one of the comparisons here in the ringers draft guide was Dion waiters.
You know, for number one, you don't want to Dion waiters at that spot in the draft.
That's just bad news.
No matter how you look at it.
I mean, that would be, you know, a little bit of a disappointment from the number one pick.
But, man, the potential is there with Edwards.
I totally see what you're saying, and I mean, he can get a bucket on anybody on any night.
You know? E remember in Maui, I think, um, he put up something like 34 points in that tournament and just looked every bit the number one pick.
And then there's other games, you know, where he drifts a little bit, and you kind of wonder where he's at.
So you know, it's gonna be up to that coaching staff in Minnesota to get the best out of him and try to get things rolling there.
And I know they're anxious to make the playoffs.
It's been a little while, so they're, uh they're hoping for that.
Yeah, one time since 2004.
Not a great track record, And I'm sure they're just thirsty for some type of success in that franchise.
So, uh, I see the pick.
I see why they went with it, similar to why Charlotte went with ball.
It's you know, these two franchises, you're not getting free agents star free agents to join your team, so you really have to aim high.
When you get a pick like that, you can't just settle for, You know I'll be topping great player, but you need to start that spot.
You have to just kind of take your chances and select the best available talent, which is exactly what those two French is franchises did.
So I do have to other categories here.
They don't really pertain to the top three.
It's underrated pickup and then also head scratcher.
So I picked them.
Maybe we don't quite understand, and we're just really doubting as to why that team did that.
So since for the top three, it doesn't really apply to that.
We can move right along here to the lottery.
So the 1st 14 picks and look at the best telling from that spot.
So I'm curious to see who we have from this one.
Sam, looking at who? The Cavaliers picked a number five.
My guy was Isaac Okaroh for the spot.
Looking at what he brings to the court from both offensive and defensive standpoint, Two way player has got great size.
He's 66 he's about to 15, you know, a great upper body strength so he could definitely kind of toggle between different positions as Faras, who's going to guard on a given night.
So the two way upside is there automatically shot isn't quite there yet, but he does offer a little bit of self creation.
You know? He's flashed him some, you know, a little bit of that when he was in school.
So that's something else you keep in mind.
So for the Cavaliers. Excellent.
Just looking at what they need.
They need somebody that kind of covers them, you know, in a in a multitude of areas.
I mean, they're kinda they're pretty good in the backcourt.
You know, they picked a garden last two drafts in the front court.
They have a couple of, you know, decent players down there.
But as far as a swingman, I mean, that's probably the most important position in the league today.
You could make a case for you know that the forward spots they do.
So much for you on the court.
So thoughts on Okaroh and then if you have somebody different curious to who you had in that spot.
Absolutely Well, just echo Euro Cora pick.
I think he's gonna be a tremendous player for Cleveland.
You mentioned they took Collin ***ton, Darius Garland the last couple drafts, So they've got kind of a smaller, offensive minded backcourt.
And, oh, Coral is exactly what they need in terms of a three and D guy like you said, That's the currency in the league right now.
It's grabbing those versatile wings that could defend, can shoot.
And I think he's gonna be, you know, a much needed peace for that team is they're trying to build back, um, to be in, you know, a playoff contender in the East for me.
I wrote about this guy I'm a big fan of on Yuko Cangzhou before the big man out of U S.
He went one pick after a koro number six to the Hawks, and I actually think that's a great fit for him playing in the pick and roll with Trey Young.
Um, I think he averaged something like 16 and eight with 2.
5 blocks a game at USC last year.
I've told you this.
He reminds me a lot of bam out of bio with his versatility, which I know the Hawks would sign up for that today if they knew he was gonna turn into a bam type of player.
But I love a Conway's game.
I think he's gonna be a great pick up for them.
And he's probably my pick for the best talent in the lottery outside of those top three guys.
That's a great pick, man.
I'm just looking at what The Hawks having that roster right now? You know, at first it was a little bit confusing because you say to yourself like, Well, that front court is set right with Collins and Capella.
They're who they just traded for, didn't play a game for them.
So it makes me think, like, Okay, maybe the first season he's in a reserve role band did.
The same thing is first season, you know, he backed up number 21.
I don't know if you watch my podcast before Sam, but that name is taboo in the Heat culture.
We don't mention that center that we shut off to Portland.
He's just kind of e know exactly what you're talking about.
Eso He kind of backed him up.
You know, his first year.
And you know, we got about, you know, maybe 18 minutes a game.
It was the perfect situation for him coming in as a, you know, still fairly raw recruit out of Kentucky.
So I kind of see the same thing with, um um you know, um, Kwaku, I'm just probably picturing his name right now, but yeah, there we O.
Oh, you know, he comes in and he's going to serve a reserve role behind Capella.
I'm assuming for the first season, and then maybe the hawks do something similar.
Maybe next year.
They find that Capella is not the guy for the long term.
So they kind of just ship him out somewhere else.
And Annika can just step in behind him, you know, serve a nice role next to John Collins.
And he's that enforcer.
He's that shot blocker.
He's that rebounder.
Uh, because John Collins isn't the best interior defender.
He's not really going to give you that at a high level.
So it seems like pretty good compliments there.
I'm selfishly glad they picked him.
So now I get the opportunity to see him in action in Atlanta.
Whenever we can kind of go back and see these guys in person again.
So super excited about that pick.
And yeah, I have no arguments with that one, man.
I could definitely see him as being the top talent after those first three picks.
It kind of went through earlier.
I'm excited to see him, too.
And I think, you know, with his versatility on defense, you know, he's 69 I think, with a 7 ft one wing span, so he actually has a much greater wingspan than his.
His height would let you know, and I think he's gonna be fantastic for them.
Exactly what? What they need plan alongside Collins.
So I think, though I think they'll probably let Capella move along here pretty soon.
I think he's a good stopgap for now.
But the long term future is definitely a calling with playing in Atlanta with Trey Young.
You know, I think it's gonna be a little more versatile, little more mobile than a cappella.
So he's gonna be able to do some things that I mean, the cappella couldn't quite doing the core, but he can still serve as a great rim roller.
Um, you know, and go get the ball for lives off, you know, from Trey, as you talked about earlier.
I mean, I don't think there's anything negative negative.
We could really say about that one for sure.
So we're looking at underrated pickup now for the lottery, and we're looking at who got picked up in that lottery spot that maybe we're not talking about quite as much as we should be.
So for guys in that slot, you know, somewhere between like four and 14.
You know, Sam, you're looking at the draft here.
You're looking at, you know who got picked up.
And, you know, we're not giving them enough praise for what he's gonna be able to offer to his new team.
So, like, who stood out to you as faras who occupied that spot for you? Underrated under the radar.
Who needs more praise in that kind of lottery slot? Absolutely.
So you mentioned that 4 to 14 range? I'm actually going right to the end of it at number 14, Aaron A.
Smith, that weighing out of Vanderbilt landing in Boston, which is just a perfect, perfect landing spot for Naysmith.
Um, in case you don't know much about the guy.
He played two seasons at Vanderbilt last year, averaged 23 points a game, shot 52% from three.
I mean, he's an absolute sharp shooter from three.
He's one of those guys.
You gotta start guarding him when he pulls into the parking lot.
He's tremendous, Um, and he is, you know, yet another three and D kind of wing with that can really shoot it to play in that Brad Stevens offense.
I think it's just a perfect fit for him.
The only reason why he didn't get picked higher was because of his injury.
He suffered a stress fracture in his foot and only played 14 games last year, and it kind of hurt his draft stock a little bit.
But for me, he's a clear top six or eight guy out of this draft, and him going at 14 is a great value pick for the Boston Celtics.
So Aaron Naysmith, my pick for the underrated pickup in the lottery, do not like that.
I'm going through and looking at his number this year.
I mean, as you talked about 52% 115 3 point attempts, Uh, you know, in that season at Vanderbilt, 23 points a game, Uh, definitely got some potential there as a 66 wing with 6 10 wingspan to 13, a little bit older, So he's definitely not gonna be a guy.
You have to wait for two or three years to develop.
You can just kind of jump right in and and serve a role that really fits that team.
So we're looking at NBA com, you know, we've got a Danny Green camp here.
We have a taller buddy healed comp, which definitely fits.
You know, if we're talking about a guy that could just light it up from downtown and, uh, you know, a soon as you walk into the arena, you have to respect this guy's range.
So, you know, definitely comfortable beyond the three point arc, making things happen and then also, I mean, he's not a bad defender.
So you're looking at what boss is gonna get from him on the other side of the floor.
There really a team that prides himself on defensive effort, so he's gonna come into an environment where you already have Jalen Brown.
You already have Marcus Smart and Jason Tatum being able to kind of bring him into that environment of just culture, of digging down, getting in your stance and really Dean guys up.
So, I mean, when you talk about everything he offers, you know, and being an already being 21 that's definitely a boon for this team.
And I can see why.
You know, you could pick him as underrated guy because I haven't really heard much about him.
You know, you hear about the, you know, car ruse.
You heard you hear about Edwards and these guys, but you're a Romney Smith.
I mean, even for me, I wasn't talking about it much coming into the draft.
I didn't really know him that well.
So, um, even his steel numbers indicate that he's gonna be a pretty good defender at 1.
4 steals per game, for sure.
Oh, um, that's a really good pick here, man.
And I'm just looking at what happened here recently.
We talked about it before the pod, but Gordon Hayward might be moving on.
Hey, just declined his 34 million player option.
That's crazy, man.
This is off topic a little bit here, man, but can you think of example ever of a guy having that much guaranteed money.
Who is not a LeBron, not a nadie.
You know, not a k d that opted out of that money.
It just seems unfathomable to me.
Yeah, I can't think of, ah of an example off the top of my head.
I mean $34 million to play on a contender in the East with his college coach, Brad Stevens.
I think there's something else going on.
I don't I don't know what it is, but, man, that's pretty unprecedented.
You know, I think the Hawks have been linked to him.
The Knicks have been linked to him a little bit, you know, based on what I saw on Twitter earlier.
But man, that's a that's a strange one.
So for him, toe walk and for the Celtics to lose that asset, I'm sure they're even happier that they took me Smith here in the first round, I'm sure, and maybe they had an inclination that he would opt out because I mean, of course, last night he had made a decision yet, and he waited until the very last second, according to Twitter, because people were counting down the minutes is like 10 minutes left, five minutes, two minutes.
And then right before five o'clock Eastern the deadline.
You know, he made his decision.
So I'm sure they were in the draft room draft.
Last night, they're saying to themselves like there's an opportunity.
I mean, there's a chance.
Like if you get to the day before the deadline and you have a $34 million option, you haven't decided yet.
There's a pretty good chance you're gonna opt out, because any other person would say, Like as soon as it's available, I'm scooping it up because that's some serious money right there.
So for sure, for sure that's crazy.
And, you know, it makes me think that he's got something lined up somewhere else because, you know, if your Gordon Hayward you don't turn down $34 million toe, you know Thio wait out into the unknown of free agency.
I mean, I think he's got a deal somewhere, so I guess we'll find out pretty soon where it is.
But we sure will.
Just something different here, man.
It's just like you can't.
Nothing is given in this year 2020 man.
And you know, he extends all the way to free agency like we're gonna seems the stuff we've never seen before.
Eso this is just, ah, taste of things to come.
Eso my underrated pickup here is gonna be Denny Abdi Asia.
Um, correct me if I'm wrong in that pronunciation, I think you gotta literally not my area expertise here.
But, you know, I put on my notes here.
He's not the ***iest name because he's coming from an international, um, you know, standpoint here, you know, somebody that played overseas, you know, doesn't have the kind of high profile of, you know, Lemelle a ball.
I mean, he played overseas, but we knew about him before that, you know, didn't come up in a big division one college program that we saw play and, you know, countless big matchups didn't have that kind of background.
But you look at what? What Denny can offer a Washington.
You know, it is a little bit confusing at first because you think about who they already have it.
That spot that have hachi Maura just finished this rookie year.
So, you know, it kind of seems a little redundant at first.
But you have to remember that this is a guy that's a great playmaker.
I mean, Rhodesia is gonna offer an element off, you know, playmaking setting guys up.
He can also kind of be a point forward.
I mean, you're gonna be something that's gonna break people down off the dribble.
Um, you know, he's got great size, but for what? I can see what I what I've heard he's not gonna have great quickness or athleticism or anything like that.
So he's got a feel for the game.
He's got some basketball like you to go along with that size, which is never a bad thing.
You know, you pair those two things together on the basketball court, great things you're gonna happen.
So you're gonna see a lot of great pump things from this guy.
You're gonna see a lot of up and unders.
You're gonna see just solid fundamentals all around.
So I mean, that's you know, you can't really say it's a bad thing for Washington team that just needs some production in the worst ray way right now.
And then you think about what he's gonna offer you as far as shooting percentages aren't great.
I mean, he only shot 52% from the free throw line on 75 10, which is pretty awful.
But, I mean, his three point percentage wasn't terrible.
I mean, he's about average 33 to 34% from there.
So the shot is definitely something that might take a little time.
But I could see it coming along a little bit later, and I'm not a bad finishers.
Well, so a definitely a multifaceted player at the wing, and I'm not I'm not mad at it.
If I'm Washington, you know, it might take some work to kind of get him to fit in that lineup, but not bad at all.
Especially if they lose Bhutan's of free agency somehow.
So, um, could be a nice backup platform. Absolutely.
I really liked that pick.
You know, he's got a lot of size and skill.
Denny's a guy that I think was mocked a lot of places to Cleveland at five.
So him falling down to Washington, you know, may even be a great value.
But yeah, I like his game a lot.
And you know, they, like you, said they need playmakers.
They got Bradley Beal, who you know, can't do it all by himself.
They may be getting John Wall back.
They may be flipping him for Russell Westbrook like we're gonna find out what that backcourt looks like.
But I think Denny is gonna have a lot of opportunity toe thrive there in Washington, you know, even early on.
I feel for Washington that kind of gone through so many phases of wings there.
It's like, you know, they had auto Porter Jr at one point, you know, moved on ahead.
Kelly, you bray m you're bringing hot camera.
You know, you bring enough d Asia.
I mean, they're just kind of like cycling through these wings, slash forward players.
And, you know, hopefully this guy that could hang on to it for a little bit longer and he could be a long term peace forum, but they're going in a different direction, you know? They're going away from that mold.
A guy that they had before you look at Kelly uber.
I mean, he's a guy that's just gonna be just electric.
Just gonna throw down on people a lot of posters, great energy just all the time.
Never stops of these.
Just gonna approach it from a little bit different perspective, a little more methodical, a little bit more skill based.
You know, if something doesn't work out for you, I mean, there's no nothing wrong with going in a different direction and seeing all that kind of turns your fortunes around.
So for sure, for sure I really like that pick.
You know, I think they tried to hit kind of, ah, single with Rui last year, and I think with Denny, um, they're swinging a little bit harder, so I think that that's a little bit higher upside guy that could really pan out for them.
So I think that's a really good pick, Absolutely good stuff from Washington.
Let's let's see how they can, you know, manage their assets.
And if making kind of make a case of Bradley Beal because you know he's on, he's got an extension, but still gotta still gonna make him happy because you know, those two years ago by real quick and he's gonna be right back at it, So absolutely, absolutely so we look at head scratchers in the lottery.
Who was selected that? We just quite can.
You can't quite understand why that came to be why it transpired.
Uh, you know, I'm gonna go right off the bat and say at number 10, Jaylin Smith to Phoenix.
You nod your heads, I'm sure.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of our picks here.
You look at the experts and, you know, from ESPN to the ringer and in the athletic.
I'm sure a lot of people have the same thought here.
You know, You ask yourself, why would you take a skilled center? Very good center, which I was kind of selfishly hoping.
Fell to the heat at 20 before the draft.
But, I mean, you have 18 already there.
Um, some people were saying he could play the four.
You know, that's all well and good, but like, can you really do that? I've heard some people say he's not quite fluid enough to play the four on offense and maybe not even on defense.
You look at it from that perspective.
You have eight in there, you know, at the four, you can't really sustain himself in that position for a long period. of time.
Why would you make that pick at 10? Because that 10 I mean, I'm sure you're looking for a starter.
A long term starter, A t least.
So that's just kind of confusing to me.
You know, You look at what he brings to the table.
I mean, nobody's gonna doubt that he's a great player.
He could be a great player for sure, based on what he did in college.
I mean, he's very coordinated, you know? He's got a lot of skill.
Um, 6, 10, 71 Wingspan, shot blocker, bring some rebounded to the table.
A little bit of shot making 36% last season from three.
So I mean, he has a shot.
He could definitely space the floor, but, you know, you think of what he's gonna bring to the table.
It's really comes down to defense like he's gonna block some shots, sir.
But one of the minuses here, one of the one of the question marks he's not quite great when it comes to lateral quickness.
You know, that hurts them.
So I think it needs to be planted in the paint.
And, of course, their guy DeAndre in occupies a space already, so don't quite understand it.
Yeah, I don't either.
On D for me, it's not even a ZMA much Jaylin Smith, the player.
It's really the fit.
I think you you raised some valid points with his lack of lateral quickness.
I think that hey, does several things.
Really? Well, you know, he plays with a high motor.
He really rebounds.
Like you said, he can shoot it a little bit from three.
More so than you might expect from a big but man, you got DeAndre eaten already playing at the five there.
Um, if you're looking for him to just be kind of a high level backup center, I think you can find those guys and free agency for a good value.
And, uh, you know, you mentioned him falling to 20.
I kind of expected him to go around 20 you know, around where the heat were picking at 10.
You know, you passed up on Tyree's Halliburton.
We went to Sacramento, you passed on Devon Basil who went to San Antonio.
I mean, guys that can really contribute and really play and would fit well with With Devin Booker with Chris Paul, Michael Bridges.
I mean, I really like what Phoenix is doing, but I really, for their sake, would have hoped that they would have gone for a different pic than Jaylin Smith.
So, like, the player don't like the fit.
That's that's my head scratcher.
Yeah, same here, man.
And I guess we do have to give Phoenix a little bit of a the benefit of the doubt.
Because if we rewrite a little bit a little bit here we go back to last year.
Can Johnson's pick, who I believe is at 14? A lot of us were saying that was a reach and, you know, the fit was good, but we just didn't feel like he warned to the selection that high because, you know, he'd been in college for, you know, a few years already, and he was older and upside wasn't there, so we we doubted them, but it worked out.
So I'm not gonna say it's just completely, just like, Oh, it's done that they completely messed up.
Sure, just just a question mark, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
I think it deserves a question, and so we'll see how it turns out.
But, you know, for me, if you're looking at a guy that you know projects to be a Thomas Bryant type of player, I'm not sure that's what you're looking for. A 10.
So that's That's my head. Scratch it.
Yeah. So we're in agreement on that one.
Can't quite understand it, but let's get back to some great talent here, man, because that was just the lottery.
But the rest of the first round had some great names that you mentioned.
Devin Vessel, Of course.
Uh, you know, a lot of these guys Holly Burn went and had a great, uh, They went to some great franchises as far as like, they're fit.
And guys, they need really encouraging to see that.
So if we're going to best talent in the rest of the first round, this is a guy that you mentioned me before the draft.
You talked about it first.
We need to watch this guys that comes in.
You know, you made some great points about this guy, so I'm gonna mention him, and I'm gonna hand the baton over to you because I'm sure you have a lot to say about um, this talent here.
But, hey, you know, 21 year old do it all player shades of Tobias Harris.
He's got some shot making abilities.
He's got great sizes.
68 He's gonna come in and already be able to fill a variety of roles.
So he's getting traded to Detroit.
And as we know, Detroit is starting over.
Basically, they need everything right now.
They need shot making. They need defense.
I mean, they shipped off.
Uh, you know Luke Kennard, who is actually still on a rookie contract.
So I mean, when I say start over there, starting over like it doesn't matter if you're 20 years old, 21 you've played three years in the league.
They're still looking toe in a different direction.
So Siddiq Bay man, he's got some great intangibles.
You know? He's shot.
Ah, pretty good percentage last year.
Effective field goal percentage of 58%.
So he offers a lot on the court, man.
I mean, great size, uh, pretty mature player already.
And he played two years of Villanova.
Um, he's got some playmaking skills.
He can, you know, make things happen from pretty much any area of the floor.
The only knock against him is he's not this explosive athlete.
He's not gonna wow you with all these crazy dunks.
He's not gonna blow by people.
But if we look at everything else, even his defense is pretty solid.
You know, off ball on ball, he's gonna give you, you know, some great looks that basically, wherever you kind of plug him in on the court, he's gonna make things happen for you.
So specifically for Detroit, I really like this pick because they're saying to themselves, Well, we're starting from scratch.
So going from for, like, dedicated specialists like there's there's three teams like you think of the guy we're gonna talk about a little bit later.
Tyrell Terry to the Yeah, to Dallas there.
And it's like they can afford to pick up a specialist because that's all they really need.
You got for Zynga's just throwing a little piece there that can kind of be amplified by the strength of your stars.
But for Detroit, they don't have that yet.
They're still searching for that, so they're just looking to lay the groundwork and bringing in an older player.
That's got a lot of skills, very refined all around game.
That's a great way to kind of make things happen to kind of jump start your franchise Basically coming from the ashes here because you don't really have anything to build upon right now.
So your thoughts on him, man, Because you were talking about him a lot more than I was leading up to the job.
I love Sadiq Bay.
You know, one of my favorite young players in the MBA right now is Michael Bridges, Uh, for the Phoenix Suns.
And to me, Sadiq Bay is just almost a carbon copy of McKell Bridges.
You know? You know, a long wing that can shoot the three.
He's got wingspan for days.
Hey, could defend multiple positions.
You know, he can He can guard bigger wings.
He can take on Ah, you know, smaller, quicker guards if you need him.
He's a great shooter from three.
And you know, these Villanova guys come into the league and they're they're ready to go, you know, they're instant contributors, and I guess that's a credit to J. Right in the program.
He's got there, but I think Sadiq Bay is gonna come in and and immediately contribute for Detroit.
I really like the the pick, and I like the contrast.
Actually, you know, they they went with Sadiq Bay.
Who? I think they really know what they're getting there at that 19th pick.
Um, and kind of contrast that with Killian Hayes.
Who? They took it.
Who's a little bit bigger swing, You know, a younger point guard who's played internationally that I know a lot of guys.
Specifically, Kevin O Connor had him near the top of his his draft board over at the ringer S o.
I really like what Troy Weaver did you know in his first draft with Detroit.
Um, Sadiq Bay is a a great pick up, and I have no doubt that he's gonna be a starter in this league for 10 to 15 years.
You know, he knows exactly who he is, so that's a great call.
It's kind of like an inverse of what we've seen from this top three picks, those air players that don't quite know who they are.
They're still trying to figure out what they're gonna do best on a basketball court where they're gonna fit in things like that.
It kind of It really kind of applies to all of us, right? In any walk of life, it's like when we're younger, it's like we're trying to find our place.
But as you get older, you know, you go through some experiences and kind of say yourself, Okay, this is what I bring to the table.
This is why fit best.
And for Sadiq, that's the other end of spectrum.
You mean unfortunately for these guys, you know, the draft is all about potential.
So if you even if you know who you are, if it doesn't result in being a top, you know, 2030 player, it drops you a few spots.
But I mean, if you go to a place where you're really going to develop and you really get the opportunity, that's a great thing.
Because a lot of these teams, you know, you go to a franchise like I don't know, maybe like a Sacramento, and I don't want to use Halliburton as an example.
Maybe else they picked maybe like a big man.
But you're just not sure if you're gonna get your opportunity or you're gonna be utilized in the right way, based off of their history, but for Detroit starting from scratch.
So they're probably throw them in Day one as a starter along with second Mboya.
But they picked last year.
Let those guys go to town and say, Hey, what you got for us? What you gonna offer? So absolutely, he's gonna get a lot of reps.
So for a guy like that, that's definitely exciting, even if you're not getting picked in the top 10 or top five or whatnot for sure.
So is that the same guy you had for your best talent? Or you're looking at somebody a little bit different for this one? I wrote about Sadiq Bay, but I actually went a little bit different direction.
I picked Tyreese Maxi 21.
Okay, The Philadelphia 70 Sixers Tyreese Maxie, A guard out of Kentucky.
Hey, got drafted alongside his backcourt teammate in Kentucky.
Emmanuel quickly Onda for me.
I think Maxie's tremendous.
I think it's a shrewd pickup from Daryl Morey, a 63 point guard with a 66 wingspan.
Um, really fierce competitors.
If you watch Kentucky at all last year, really brought his a game and their biggest matchups.
Um, he's tricky planning the pick and roll.
He's still coming along as a shooter, but you can see the mechanics are strong and they're there.
And as a playmaker, he's got incredible potential.
He's a really good passer.
Like I said, he plays well in the pick and roll defensively.
He's just an absolute dog.
I mean, he's a great on ball defender, very smart, high basketball like you.
And he's a winner s.
Oh, I think I think Max, he's a tremendous pickup, actually, really Like everything that the Sixers did yesterday.
I think they made a couple of very interesting moves.
Toe bring in Danny Green.
Thio Bring Seth Curry to add some shooting to that team.
I mean, you knew Daryl Morey was gonna look to add some shooting as soon as he could, but for me, Tyreese Maxie is a tremendous value at 21 I think he's gonna be just an instant contributor for that Sixers team.
Doc Rivers is gonna love him.
If you were talking about a guy that's gonna be gritty and just give us all at any given point in the game that somebody that's gonna get you some minutes with Doc Rivers and instantly make you a favorite on that bench and you're gonna get some P.
T. So great pickup for them.
I've heard a lot about Maxie in the last 24 hours here because I wasn't somebody that had done a lot of research on him specifically.
But going through the draft and guys talking about underrated picks and talking about best fits and things like that, uh, they kept going back to Tyreese.
And you talk about what he offers us.
Faras being competitive, you know, you gotta think of like a Kyle Lowry.
Like Kyle Lowry is not a superstar like Kyle Lowry is not the first team, but he's a winner like he's going to do whatever it takes to win a game.
And then you give a point.
Uh, you know, just be a great a great teammate.
Be a great competitors.
Er and great thing about Maxie is like you're getting this potential to be a great shooter.
I mean, he shot 83% from the free throw line.
Great indicator of future shooting ability in the MBA.
So you're getting that off the bat, but also that defense, like on and off ball defense, Very competitive.
You gotta dig into a stance.
You really get after it.
And that's the culture that the Sixers River they built for themselves for the past couple of years.
I mean, you look at who, uh, have brought onto their staff.
I mean, you're looking at Ben Simmons and be pretty much average or above average defenders at all five positions.
So obviously that value defense quite a bit.
So I think that's what factored into their decision to take Maxie at that spot.
And he'd actually been mocked a little bit higher by a lot of outlets.
So you're thinking about, um, he's value relative to is draft slot.
That's pretty good.
So I love everything that Darrell Moore in that staff did last night.
They're they're killing it right now.
And it just goes to show you, man, like one of the biggest competitive advantages in the league.
Um, Daniel Roux, from real GM in in the athletic, sets us all the time.
If you got a great ownership, you're going places, you're going to get the right players and to make a difference.
Pick up for sure, for sure.
And so we're talking about underrated now.
So for this slot, um, like, who got picked up, you know, And later in the first round, that's really gonna make a difference off the bat.
Ah, guy I thought about and I really kind of decided on based on the team need was cool.
Anthony to the Orlando Magic.
So you think about the Orlando Magic and what they've done or why they haven't done the past few years.
They don't really have anybody that could just go on.
Just be like, Okay, get us a bucket and a game.
Go make it go. Make something happened.
Evan Fournier? Kinda.
Yeah, here and there.
But, I mean, especially from the guard spot, Like D.
All respect in the world to him.
Great backup point guard.
He's been really solid for them for two or three years now, Like he doesn't great things for him.
I still have some hope in him that he's gonna be a great player, but he's not a straight a bucket getter.
He's kind of like a duel, you know, playmaking slash.
Like slashing point guard.
Uh, not a great shot maker from distance, Um, in any kind of way.
So going to call Anthony? It's like, Okay, they need to buck in the worst way.
Offense has been nothing to write home about for the longest time.
So they got who they needed.
You got a guy that can create a shot for himself.
Great shot for other players.
Probably not gonna be the biggest difference maker long term.
But even if he doesn't end up being a long term starter for you, I mean, jeez, like, the guy's gonna go out there, make things happen.
5 points a game during this one season in North Carolina, four assists per game.
You know, he looks to be a pretty decent facilitator.
May not The best he's gonna give his effort on defense might not be the best defender, but he's gonna he's gonna make an effort every single game, and I mean, he's gonna he's gonna drop some buckets from the outside.
So sneaky athleticism, uh, you know, could be pretty dangerous and in transition and make things happen for you off on the break so an explosive kind of player.
Kind of like harnessed energy, Um, bench or in a starting world from the Magic.
So that was why he was underrated for me.
I think he's not kind of went down, just get lower as we got closer to the draft, even though he's a little bit higher later on.
So that's why I call Anthony had my pick of that spot, man, What you're thinking.
I really like the cool Anthony pick.
Um, you know, he's a guy that came into college in North Carolina as one of the real elite five star prospects in the country.
Um, had a tough year, you know, with injury.
And that North Carolina team really underperformed.
And I think Cole Anthony took a lot of the heat for that team really under performing, and I think it probably hurt his draft off a little bit.
But, yeah, I like the opportunity for him in Orlando.
I think he's going to get a lot of shots in I.
I think they're missing Isaac this year with that knee injury, so they're a little shorthanded, but a perfect opportunity for him to fill in as a rookie and come in and get some valuable experience.
Like you said, playing with D. J. Augustine.
Um, I think Anthony is gonna be a nice pick up for them and a really good value, you know, further back in the first round, then.
Ah, lot of people probably mocked them originally through that Anybody different for you? Um, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go with the guy who was the I think the worst kept secret of the first round was how much Oklahoma City coveted this guy.
And I guarantee you that nobody has seen much of this guy outside of YouTube highlights and, you know, reading, uh, scouting reports from Jonathan Davone and Kevin O Connor.
Um, I'm going with I'm gonna I'm gonna try not to butcher this Alexey Polka Chayefsky the seventh that wasn't that bad could done.
That wasn't a bad, uh, the 7 ft Serbian, um, he's the youngest player in this draft, and he is a total home run swing for for Sam Presti and the Thunder.
And I think that's their goal.
You know, I think next year they're going to try to tank and get towards the top of that loaded 2021 n b a draft, but for for the 17th pick, you know they're They're swinging for the fences with Po Kosowski, and he's got a skill set that's really fascinating to me.
He's a seven footer that plays on the perimeter.
Um, he is skinny as a rail right now, so they need to get him in and get some weight on him for sure if he's gonna be able to play in this league.
But a really high upside guy at 17, Um can really pass the ball, initiate the offense.
Hey, can shoot it from outside.
I think he's got a very unique skill set, and a lot of, ah, lot of draft ****ysts that I really trust are super high on him on Do they believe in the long term that he's gonna be Hey, could be a tremendous player on someone that is really slept on for that 17th pick in this draft, so he's definitely a swing.
I don't know if he's the he's a low floor, high ceiling kind of guy, but for me, I I like the roll of the dice and so I'm gonna go with polka Chayefsky in Oklahoma City.
So you said High ceiling, low floor, low floor drug and bender Bender.
I mean, like, absolutely prison Ghous Or, you know, one of those kind of guys that is just a unicorn.
You know, the the level of competition competition that he played against in Greece is, uh, is questionable, so I think that we really don't know what he is yet, but the good news for him is that he's going to get a great opportunity on a rebuilding.
Okay, See, team, Um, he's gonna get a lot of minutes and you know, they're going to see what he's got.
So I'm willing to see I think it's gonna be a very fascinating pick.
Toe watch developed.
He's a He's a really interesting prospect in this draft.
I really, really interested in him too, man.
And I didn't know anything about him going into this draft.
But, you know, I'm looking at his measurements and what people have been talking about him kind of like what he brings to the table.
And it's like, Yeah, seven footer was shooting touch.
I mean, like, this is prison is to point out, because for Zynga's, we talked about in the same way Very tall, lanky, great touch, super skinny.
Not gonna be able to hold up in the, you know, in a physical game, Uh, you know, down low, make anything happen basically inside the three point line or inside the mid range area.
So I mean, like, yeah, why not Just Okay, So it's not like they're gonna have a shortage of picks anyway, in the next few draft.
So I mean, if you strike out on this one, it's like there's another, like 20 for sure for sure.
And that's what they're doing right now.
They're just trying to collect assets and swing for the fences.
And, you know, I think it's, ah, it's a worthwhile strategy for now.
I'm sure next year, you know, if they're drafting at the top of the board in 2021 it's not gonna be quite as big of a risk.
I'm sure they're they're gonna be looking for, you know, a cornerstone piece to go with S G A Absolutely, absolutely.
And I wanna put it past them and Sam Presti and those guys, like, excellent scouting department player development department.
So I mean, like, um, all the confidence in the world, they're gonna make things happen this year and kind of going forward, all those picks.
So, salmon, like we got really in depth in these discussions and like the time, just completely, just like one by me.
So you're here is, um, kind of talk about these trades world quick in the last segment here to kind of wrap it up.
Um, sorry about the second round.
Guys shout out to them for, you know, making a mark and still getting drafted.
Just don't like the time I want to talk about those guys for sure for sure.
We'll have to write something about the second rounders since we had to cut him out today.
That's a great idea.
So, guys, be sure to stay tuned for that.
It's coming soon.
Just not tonight.
So let's talk about.
Since we always talk about the thunder, let's get into that trade here a little bit more.
Danny Green going to the Sixers.
They're getting, um, they're gonna be a great player in Al Horford back and that trade.
So I mean, like, he's got a lot of years left on his deal.
Still, I think three years left tons of money guaranteed, which is fine for them.
If your if your franchise that's rebuilding and you're looking to gain assets, that's what you do.
You assimilate some of those lower value contracts because he's still a great players.
Just overpaid right now.
And, you know, you get you get a pick back in return.
So I mean, you two picks, actually, so I mean, it works out nicely for them and then Danny Green going to the Sixers.
More spacing, um, still sticks to that defensive identity, that culture that I talked about earlier.
So it works out.
I think, for both sides, they're both getting something.
They want something they need, and it's gonna influence them in different ways.
So Horford's just gonna be that, you know, solid contributor, veteran presence in the in the locker room, gonna help you win a few games here and there, although not not too many, since they are gonna be going a little bit downhill next season.
Danny Green he's on another winning team, and he's got all the intangibles he knows how to when he just won a championship.
And that's where the sixties you're trying to go.
So for both sides, I would like to trade, and they're gonna definitely make their mark just in different ways from franchises.
So I'm a fan. Absolutely.
That's actually two championships on the bounce for for Danny Green, you know, with Toronto and with the Lakers last year.
But, yeah, I think that's a great pickup for Daryl Morey.
Um, it's a win win trade for both teams.
The Thunder, You know, I think you're going to see that strategy from them going forward where they take on bad contracts to add assets at the same time.
Um, kind of utilizing that cap space that they have.
So from them, Um, I think that's a really interesting trade from their perspective.
They took that 34th pick, and it took Ah, guy.
I really liked Te'o Mala, don ah, guard out of France, who is gonna be a very interesting project for them.
Um, And from the Sixers perspective, they added shooting.
You know, they picked up Seth Curry yesterday in a separate trade.
Um, any green, a great three and D guy with a lot of championship experience.
So I think it's one of those few win win trades that you see in the MBA.
No doubt, no doubt the Sixers Heat is shooting in the worst way.
And while we're on the subject of shooting, we have this second trade Seth Curry to the Sixers for Josh Richardson.
So you look at Seth Curry and I think I read earlier that he's a 44% 3 point shooter over the last three years.
This is a guy that is just absolutely gonna light up the Nets.
Um, you know he's gonna pull up.
He's not gonna be as dynamic as Steph Curry, but, I mean, as far as his pure efficiency, like he's gonna bring all that to the table.
He could do a little bit off the dribble, not too much.
But, you know, he could drive off of a close out and get a flutter in.
There are two per game, so not terrible, and then Josh Richardson getting shipped out.
Um, really important thing to remember about Josh Richardson is even though he's only getting paid 11 million this season for next season, he has a player option, which is probably gonna opt out off.
Put them in the free agency market for 21.
The market might be a little more competitive since more teams cap space.
And that's not something the Sixers wanna be dealt with dealing with when it comes to like adding more money onto their books and having to re up this guy for whatever is gonna get it free agency, which I'm sure it would be.
So you're getting South Korea for three years.
Eight million per.
And you're getting that shooting you so desperately needed a change for a championship so great on their end.
And then the Mavericks get their their defensive guy next to Luca.
Defense was your Achilles heel all season.
They get that and actually get a decent three point shooter as well.
So for both sides, I really like it, and it just really makes sense.
I mean, they're both trying to win.
Uh, they just need a different things offense on this side.
Defense on this side? Absolutely.
Seth Curry is just a player right in the mold of Daryl Morey.
You know, he's a fantastic shooter like you mentioned 44% from three of the last couple of years.
Um, he is gonna be very, you know, a piece that they really could have used the last couple of years, and they finally get him.
Eso I'm sure there's more moves to come for Philly, you know, with Daryl Morey.
He's never gonna sit still.
But I think Seth Curry is an awesome pick up on a great contract for them.
From the maps perspective, that's a really good point you made with Josh Richardson.
You know, he's probably gonna be an expiring contract next summer.
He brings a lot of defense for for the here and now, Um, you know, it's kind of a long, defensive minded wing, but I'm sure Dallas is looking toe ke pa's much cap space open is possible next summer.
A couple of a couple of big fish that might be available that that may wanna play with Luca.
So I think it's, uh, I think it's a heavy move.
Absolutely, man, build these for offices are making great moves, and they're just in different phases right now.
The thunder out there doing their thing, getting ready for the future and you know, the Sixers and Mavs.
They see what they have right now.
They have stars in their midst, and they're ready to pounce on the rest of the league and make a move and start winning.
So great stuff all around.
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