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uh, but they're gonna end up having a mate like Milwaukee is gonna have to make it.
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He's gonna have to walk across the stage in the Milwaukee had It's gonna be from my walk across.
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The stage is in the stage, but like he's gonna have toe.
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It's just weird, but it's all good.
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Alright.
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You ready, though? Yeah.
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Let me Texas wants.
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All right.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome to the A Peanut.
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This six man podcast on your hosted by his best we're here.
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Join with a very special guest.
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He's a friend of mine, a mentor of mine and average Saints fan, for whatever reason.
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Alleged alleged, uh, two K player, even though he refuses to play me.
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Maybe it's because do the lack of ability or lack of confidence right now.
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By the way, the five on there was a game.
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There's a game that is gonna be paused way.
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And lastly, um um, ESPN pelicans reporter Andrew Lopez.
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How you doing, my friend? I'm good, man.
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It's, uh it is aware it's a wild time right now.
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Thio cover the MBA, especially the pills with everything going on, But, uh, e mean fun is good it's gonna be It's gonna be a wild ride this week.
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These next three weeks, Azzawi getting the training camp and then, you know, before that December 22nd starts.
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So it's it's all kind of good right now.
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I'm just glad you know, sports that back.
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I mean, remember a time in March and eighth we weren't doing anything, you know, we just It was it was a lot.
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It was kind of funny because, like so So back then, I mean, maybe like April, May June.
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We started running through a lot of our ideas for, you know, stuff we would normally do in the offseason.
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Like we did the Jersey thing where, you know, me and a couple other people, we rank the top 50 or way had to send in our top 75.
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Wait.
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So are we had to send in our top 15 were in the top 75 jerseys.
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Um, we did player rankings.
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We did all the stuff you normally do in the off season because it was just gonna take so long.
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So the fact that we're I know some of maybe the Lakers and the heat don't like it, but the fact that we're able to kind of get back and get going so quickly, um is is nice.
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And I know I know some front offices are Or maybe not as, um, not as happy right now with the the going through all this, they just get a salary cap.
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Now, they got to prepare for the draft on Wednesday.
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Free agency.
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After that, it's just a lot going on.
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But from a fan perspective, this is great because we get we get so many sports.
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Yeah.
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Uh, now what? Once they get in the into the season, I'm sure they're gonna have some of the same issues that baseball has some of the same issues that football is having with, you know, the cove.
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It related tests.
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Kind of taking some people out.
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But for the most part, um, it is good.
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Thio just have sports back.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the thing is people have to understand is you're gonna have positive test.
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You just kinda can't be afraid of.
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Unfortunately, obviously, you would love to have no positive, but you're gonna have positive test.
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It is all about you know, people being responsible and just not overreacting.
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as not only as a team, but there's an organization like the N b A.
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Just don't overreact.
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You're gonna have a positive, but just how to neutralize it and handle it the best way possible.
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Yeah, The biggest thing is, is having those protocols in place.
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Uh, what you what you don't want is, like, cancel games and things like that.
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What, you're gonna be inevitable, uh, during this year, that I mean, I mean, it's the N B A.
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I mean, the NFL wasn't wasn't immune to it, you know? And they're playing once a week.
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You know, baseball had early on in baseball, there was a stretch.
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It was like, 30 straight days or some sort of game was delayed because of a test.
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And, um, from personal experience, you don't want to get it.
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Trust me, you don't.
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But it's about what is what is next.
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What is coming, You know, down the line.
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How do you prepare for this? How do you, um how do you make sure everybody is healthy? I know for for like, for media wise.
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Like I'm pretty sure we're not gonna be anywhere near these players just to minimize the contact for arenas that will have fans you know you're gonna be, I think, you know, 20 to 30 ft away from this court at minimum.
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So they're already taken the right steps.
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Um, it's just a matter of these guys doing as much as they can to kind of follow follow protocol as much as they can, right? So last night, you know, I'm watching the office just chilling.
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Kept my phone and my alerts on, you know, I got yours on everyone else's.
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I knows on and and I'm getting sleepy.
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But I said something's gonna happen tonight.
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I don't know what is gonna gonna be, but something something's gonna happen, like, boom, right across my screen.
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Drew Holiday do Holiday for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill.
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And I think three first round picks briefing first and to swaps right now is this is what the current one is.
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So for me, you know Drew Harlem.
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He's a great player, one of the best two way players and league guys like Daniel.
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It'll even said he's the best perimeter defender and leave.
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Many players have said that I love your heart.
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I'm definitely a fan of him.
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I think the pelicans came out long term.
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I think they cannot. Very well.
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You're getting three first round picks and two swaps, and you have to hard.
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I mean, I mean, Eric Bledsoe, you could potentially move again.
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They came out, in my opinion.
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Very well.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm be honest.
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I didn't expect it to be, uh, that much of a hall for for Drew when you look at it, Drew is yes.
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He is one of the best defenders in the league.
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He is.
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You know, k d said it.
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George Dame said it. JJ Red**** has said numerous times.
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Um, but he is 30 years old.
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Hey is essentially on an expiring contract because he does have a player option.
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So you do have to worry about that.
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Um, and it, But his 11th or 12th season in the base.
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So he up there.
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But I do feel like he could help Milwaukee right away.
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Did not think he was gonna be, you know, two players, three picks and two swaps.
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No way.
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I thought it was gonna be that, but in much the way that, um, the Paul George Clippers trade was last year.
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This is not just a deal for Drew. Holiday.
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Um, this is essentially a deal.
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Obviously, you also have the Bogdan Bogdanovich trade that you made last night.
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But the the idea here is you make this trade to to secure Yonas.
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You make this trade to make sure, Yonas, you know, signs that Supermax which you hope he will do, which he has until, uh, before the season.
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So December 21st.
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Um, I still I don't think that's what they were gonna get.
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You looked at some of the packages kind of being talked around.
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Maybe you had Denver where they could have got, you know, Gary Harris would have been the top of that deal.
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Um, maybe you get bold, bold and Monte Morris.
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Maybe it's one of the other.
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Maybe a picker to Brooklyn probably had to pull out of it because of James Harden.
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Deal.
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Um, for the potential deal, I should say, uh, maybe you were gonna get a picking a player from Atlanta.
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There was a lot going on.
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Boston was trying to get involved.
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But at the end of the day, Thio and the spacing out of the picks where you get it all the way to 2027 which basically means there's possibly 1/6 grader today.
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There's a kid in the sixth grade who will end up Ah, 2027 publicans pick because of this trade, its while to think about it from that perspective.
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But that's how far out you got the pics.
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But even even if the honest signs the Max, let's say he signs the Supermax, he still might be gone by 2026 or 2027 so those picks might still end up being valuable.
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So, um, it's just crazy, man, that that that that's what you get.
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But, you know, props, props that David Griffin for, um, for for I guess getting this, uh, to be able to stretch out all those picks and get everything, everything that you can, uh, including another pick in the draft upcoming.
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So now you have two picks in the first round.
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You can move up.
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You can.
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You can take two guys there, whatever you want to do.
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The biggest thing that it does, and this is before we get to blood.
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So our George Hill, the biggest thing it does is it gives you so many pics Now that the next time you know you can either end up packaging those picks and moving up, you have lower level of talent that you could end up getting on the cheap when you have design on a bigger contract, when you have bring the *** want a bigger contract.
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So as those guys end up, um, you know, down the road trying to, you know, make more money.
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Obviously you can get cheaper guys on on.
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You know, you get lower back in, guys, you get maybe a drafting stash.
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You have options.
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Even if those picks Lakers and, uh, Milwaukee end up on the backside of the first round, right for me, this is a This is a risk for the bucks.
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I know they have.
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It was funny earlier, before earlier we did this pockets.
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I actually talked to a ah guy from the book staff and he was saying, you know, this was the movie had to make, you know, try to secure.
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Yeah, I don't blame them for doing it.
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They're going all in, you know, they're going to go all in, and so they could bring him back.
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But let's just say you know, it gets the day before the season and he doesn't sign it.
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I would be one sweating a little bit, because if he does decide to leave, you have jihad.
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A who was a free agent potentially next year.
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You honestly, I would have to think that if you are honest, doesn't sign that Drew probably would also try to be like, Yeah, he's gone, too.
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Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think he leads to.
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So you're looking at from the pelican standpoint, those picks, those picks become very ***y very quickly.
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I think so.
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If be honest, doesn't sign the Supermax and he has to do it in what? Not even not even a month.
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So he has not about maybe, maybe a month, almost about a month now.
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The flip side of that is you don't make this deal or the Bogdanovich deal if you don't think he's going to sign.
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And I think a lot of people now feel that he will sign, But you never know.
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I mean, it could go sour in two or three years, and he can mean Hell James Harden is trying to opt out it, not opt out.
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He's trying to ask out with two years in a player option, but at this point is really I mean, what does what it picks even mean? I mean, contracts even mean if there's gonna be able to ask out 34 years in.
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So I don't know if you're honest is necessarily built that way, though I do think that he probably had some sort of a blessing on this deal.
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If you're gonna, you know, make these moves.
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But to me, it z it's almost I mean, if if Milwaukee goes out and wins a title to me, then it's almost a win win situation.
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Um, because you for New Orleans, you you weren't necessarily gonna, uh you aren't necessarily probably going to compete for a championship in the next, um, you know, 23 years anyway, so let Drew go do what he needs to do.
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Um, and I think that's kind of the move that, uh, it could end up being a thing where both teams kind of come out on top.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think for long, for the long haul, I mean, the pelicans have set up nice.
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We have a very young young group of guys on the team already continuous add picks and that people with that.
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But like you said, a part of the trade was you bringing in Eric Bledsoe.
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I think that when I first thing I said I was like, Okay, well, Lonzo has to, you know, be extended soon.
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I believe in the next couple of months, So is have What are you hearing about Lonzo being extended? Because I'm I've heard a bunch of various different things.
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You never know what the truth is at this point, but first thing I thought was well, every blessed is gonna be traded, right? I think that the Clippers, they're very porn guard hungry.
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They've been asking for a porn guard.
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You know, they've been looking for one.
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I think that blessed so is returned to L.
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A. Could be something I could see.
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Yeah, there's There's a lot going on there.
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And I think the first big thing that you have to look at is first of all, Lonzo.
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Let's let's talk about Alonso's extension first.
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I don't necessarily think that Lonzo gets that extension, Uh, before the season starts.
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I do think he goes in as a restricted free agent.
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Um, that could change, but I just think that the, um the the value, uh, may not be there between what Lonzo thinks and what the Pels think or what any other team may think right now.
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And I think part of that becomes of the inconsistency that Alonso had last year.
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He had a very bad start, mostly because of Ah, a quad injury, I think are growing injury.
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Then he kind of grew into, um, his role and from basically right before Christmas, all the way till So the end of the until the season was stopped, I should say, um, he was he was playing very, very good basketball.
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Now that's the guy you're getting.
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I think you feel very good.
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Um, about about what you can have now, if it's, uh, the guy who played in the bubble, you don't feel very good about that guy.
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So I think you wait and see what's what's happening there, uh, to tie that in the blood.
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So Lonzo is now a rich Paul client.
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Bledsoe is rich.
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Paul client would clutch.
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And when you're both with clutch, if I'm rich, Paul, at least I'm thinking maybe I don't know if I wanna have blood.
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So in Lonzo, in the backcourt together, Where were Lonzo? Losing touch is, uh, Thio bled.
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I think I may want to get bled in a different situation on, Baby.
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I'm trying to get bled into a situation where we're gonna compete for, you know, titles.
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You know, sooner rather than later, which is again.
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And I don't think you're something you're gonna do here.
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George Hill.
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On the other hand, I think he could be a nice veteran presence.
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He's only on the contractor, I think 9.
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5 million this year, roughly around that.
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And then it's it's 10 something.
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I think it's 10 even actually, uh, tenets and change.
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But he's only got, like, 1.
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9 of that guaranteed.
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So because he's only got one point out of that guaranteed, um, you know, you can you can cut him easily after this year or move on from him, So t to me.
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I think that's kind of the the biggest thing.
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I don't know what you end up wanting for blood, so but he's the same age, if not a little bit older than Drew.
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Um you wanted guys, that we're gonna fit mawr on your timeline with Zion and B, I So to me that that kind of speaks to I would think mawr of, you know, trying to, you know, move blood.
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So for for at least a a younger asset or two, whether that's another pick or whether that's ah, you know, player who could play right away thing with me when you talked about them both being, uh, Rich Paul, clients or clients.
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I want to see what happens with Lonzo.
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If he doesn't get the get the extension, Could there be, you know, some type of a quote unquote beef per se with the pelicans and clutch for because, you know, they have a little, um they've had history recently with with Anthony Davis.
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So I would like to see what happens.
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I I've never met Rich Part, but I've heard you know, a lot about, um I know he's really good at what he does, but he's not going to let previous things bother him when it comes to dealing with his clients when they're trying to get extended.
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So I want to see if he doesn't get that offer what happens with not only clutch but also happened with the ball family.
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We know that LeVar can be very out spoken and he likes to talk.
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So I want to see what happens with both of those different guys.
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The good thing about uh, rich from everything I've heard is is he deals with each client as as one particular guy.
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He doesn't let previous issues kind of getting in the way.
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Um, it was kind of a tenuous situation when they were trying to trade Anthony Davis.
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They basically kind of made it very well known and very well, uh, picked out the one place that you were only going toe get him toe Los Angeles, and that's the only place he was gonna try to sign an extension.
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Um, that's what kind of you know, got Boston out of the deal last year.
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So But I think even if you're rich, you want Lonzo to come out and and show mawr of what he can do.
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You want him to be more of that guy? Like I said that he was for about a 2.
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5 months stretch, especially even shooting it really, really well um you want him to kind of do that and drive his value of because I think because of the bubble play his his value was pretty down.
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And I think it was maybe down across the league, and whether it's it's the pels, we're gonna end up paying and one or another team is gonna end up paying him.
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I think you want him to kind of go out there and show as much as he can right now, uh, on the floor.
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And I don't think you, you any past issues, they're gonna gonna gonna arise.
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But I think this is gonna be focused on him.
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And the good thing is, so far, LeVar is kind of I think now that he's achieved the goal of, you know, Lamela's about to be a top pick.
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Lonzo was number two there in the league.
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Jello is he's Angelo is Yeah, he's with the thunder.
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Whatever he's at right now, Lee Angelo is getting his spot.
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You know as well I think what you could do if you're, um Levar is kind of take, maybe take a step back and let the kids kind of do what they're doing.
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I think I maybe saw him three times last year, four times you.
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Therefore, I want the openers and then, uh, you know, very, very little after that.
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So I think you just kinda have to worry about Lonzo ball the player and not worry about lines.
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So, uh, the everything else, right? I think, you know, for Alonso, one thing is gonna play him well, going with this, you know, going forward, being extended is he has good chemistry with, you know, the big man on campus.
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I and they look to be, you know, they look to be a nice little 12 punch there, especially with Alonso's ability to throw the ball four quarters ion and they show to be good chemistry.
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That is something that Malanda was playing.
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Well, they were winning games.
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I am play, you know, a lot better when Lonzo was playing well.
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So I think that's something that I wouldn't say leverage.
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But that's something I think that would be considered when you have such a polarizing figure.
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Logs on and you need a point guard is gonna be able to help him get score Easy buckets.
00:19:03
Yeah, They have some amazing chemistry remember doing story back on that in March when they were e think there was.
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It's the first time since they've been tracking this since someone thinks 13 14 that they've had so many, you know, full court lob 60 70 ft lobs in a single season that their values that dunks not just like, oh, let me let me get it converted for a layup.
00:19:24
Let me let me throw it down.
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They have great chemistry.
00:19:27
Um, Zion has a spin move that he likes to do, especially with Lonzo, where he'll spin out of a post move and and and catch a lob that they were great at throwing.
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Um, the issue with Zo, you'd like to see him be able to get you in your half court sets a little bit.
00:19:43
Mawr he is great in the in the open court.
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But you know, when you when you just have to get down and do, uh, you know that the half court, that's where I think things are, You know, when you look for maybe another lead guard, if you will There.
00:19:58
But hey, does have a lot of chemistry with Zo.
00:20:01
I mean, with Zion and that is important, especially when you know, I know it's early, and I know he's almost guaranteed to time to sign that second deal.
00:20:09
But you always want to keep your superstar happy.
00:20:11
Um, even if you know that guy, he's only played 24 games so far, right next guys.
00:20:18
Brandon Ingram.
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He also needs to be, uh, resigned soon.
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You know, the beginning of the year of middle of the year, there were some rumors about they weren't gonna resign him and all that.
00:20:27
I think he gets, I think he gets the extension.
00:20:29
Is the most improved player, the lead.
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The guy was averaging over 24 points a game.
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He played very, very well this season.
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He's an all Star for a reason.
00:20:35
When do you think a deal like that could be could be done? I wouldn't expect something like that to take very long.
00:20:41
I think they're they're pretty much on the same page.
00:20:43
The only thing you're gonna probably negotiate, I think at this point is is it, um, four year max to the five year max player option? Is that any sort of options on it whatsoever? I would expect that something that gets done rather quickly once once free agency starts, they very much of you.
00:21:06
Brandon Ingram.
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It's a building block of this franchise going forward, uh, along with Zion Williams and that this is not a it's not an either or deal.
00:21:16
Um, this is something where both guys, uh, are are set to kind of be the these franchise cornerstones that can can kind of grow together.
00:21:27
Right for sure, I definitely agree.
00:21:29
So the draft is tomorrow.
00:21:31
Pelicans have two first round picks.
00:21:34
What? I've been told.
00:21:35
I was talking to some of my draft guys.
00:21:36
Someone work with Matt Bab****.
00:21:38
They were saying that technology Tories, Halliburton, Killian, Hayes, Devin, Facile, Erin Nice Smith and R.
00:21:44
J.
00:21:45
Hampton were some guys that helicopters were looking at.
00:21:48
I guess two of those guys for sure, are point guards and Halliburton and killing Hayes. Hampton.
00:21:52
This kind of twitter probably making more than two, but only better, too.
00:21:55
But, you know, I want to see.
00:21:58
Also, I've been hearing something about Kyra Lewis and Desmond Bain as well.
00:22:01
So I think all the guys that I just named, maybe maybe nieces might not be, But the rest of those guys.
00:22:05
They should be around with the pelicans pick.
00:22:08
I think so.
00:22:09
Maybe.
00:22:10
Maybe not Halliburton as well.
00:22:11
But you have any idea who the pelicans air trying to look at what they need to add to the roster? Yeah.
00:22:15
If they wanted Halliburton, they definitely have to go up and get him.
00:22:18
Killian Hayes is another guy who is is probably gonna be gone.
00:22:25
But But could not Maybe, Um, what I'd like to see is there's also the possibility mentioned.
00:22:33
Desmond Vein doesn't veins a guy.
00:22:34
I like that.
00:22:35
This process, um, you might be able to get him a 24 now, a pick that will be made officially be made by Milwaukee on then. Kind of go from there.
00:22:45
But, um, there's the good thing is now you can do a lot of different things.
00:22:51
Like like I mentioned before.
00:22:52
You could go if you wanna go. Best player available.
00:22:54
Best player available.
00:22:55
You could do that.
00:22:56
If you wanna go draft your point, guard 13 and draft a drafting stash guy A 2020.
00:23:01
For now, um, you could do that.
00:23:03
I mean, there's you have options, and then you also have, you know, the 39th pick in the draft.
00:23:08
Um, you've given away 60 so you you could do a lot of different things.
00:23:14
Sadiq bays.
00:23:15
Another name that I've heard, Um, and that could possibly be there at 13. Forum.
00:23:21
If it may be vast, you know, slips, you know, he could be there.
00:23:25
Hes like I could say it before it. Hey, slips.
00:23:28
He could be there.
00:23:29
So, um, a lot of it kind of is gonna depend on what happens above them, But I do think that they there's it's possible they want a guy they could go up and package 13 to 24 to go get him.
00:23:39
But I think what you're gonna end up seeing is they'll kind of sit back, and I think maybe, just, you know, see how it's playing.
00:23:48
If if they could jump up toe to seven or eight and get a guy you know, using both picks or whatever, Go, go and do it.
00:23:55
And they kind of just go from there because what I've been hearing about kicking Hayes's, I've heard team his stock is starting to fall.
00:24:01
When you really look into some of the numbers and what he's been doing what he did overseas for own.
00:24:06
Let me turn the ball over.
00:24:07
25% of the possessions on condo was like, You know what, Killian? We know that NBA teams are interested.
00:24:13
We're gonna just let you do what you wanna do.
00:24:15
Go ahead and have fun.
00:24:16
Yeah, you're gonna turn the ball over a **** ton.
00:24:18
But you know that it is what it is.
00:24:20
They kind of use it as a longevity piece.
00:24:22
Well, if he gets drafted in the lottery, the next kid that comes of overseas, we're gonna use in the same way.
00:24:27
So it kind of was a, I guess a brand or a marketing thing.
00:24:30
They just use going forward.
00:24:31
But when you start to look at the numbers very left, I mean, he's a solid profit.
00:24:34
I'm not really harmless.
00:24:35
Other guys, but super left handed doesn't really shoot the three that were, but he does have signs, but I just personally don't like when you turn the ball over 25% of your possessions number.
00:24:44
Overseas team would have let another guard do that.
00:24:46
Your turn About 25% of it.
00:24:47
Just in your ass.
00:24:48
That not playing that much.
00:24:50
Yeah, I think that was It was all like you said, though they were trying to, they were basically trying.
00:24:56
Thio b the B the Hey, man.
00:24:59
Look, you come play for us.
00:25:00
Now you're let you come play for us.
00:25:02
We're gonna let you do whatever you want.
00:25:04
Um, uh, and you know, they're trying to get those guys they're trying to build them up.
00:25:11
Did not very, you know, didn't shoot it. Great.
00:25:16
I think he can be a good shooter.
00:25:17
Um, hey, did obviously have limited action.
00:25:20
I think everybody had limited action.
00:25:21
Uh, you know, because of all the all the cir***stances, But, you know, he e No, I know the ringer.
00:25:29
I know criminal Connors earlier.
00:25:30
High on him.
00:25:31
E think he has him at one.
00:25:34
A lot of other people have him late, You know, uh, late in the top 10, I've started to see him kind of slipped to 12.
00:25:40
13 and some mock drafts, but I think that would be a great pick.
00:25:44
Um, because you can share duties with Lonzo if he can get you into two sets.
00:25:50
I look at those turnover numbers, and when I see the turnover numbers.
00:25:54
Um, I think a lot of those came in in, like, his first game in Euro cup, too.
00:25:59
I think you're like, eight or eight turnovers in its first game.
00:26:02
So once you, you kind of get out of that.
00:26:05
I think it was you had a stretch where you're like 65 and six and euro cup last last fall.
00:26:11
So again, I think it's all, um it all kind of works out because they were They were doing it for a reason, basically on.
00:26:20
And I think when you're when you're doing it for a reason, it there's, you know, you're trying to get these other guys and I think that's kind of the thing that, um, kind of stands out to me is you can do different things.
00:26:34
And so, uh, kind of looking back at his at his other stuff.
00:26:37
Now I'm pulling up his stats.
00:26:39
Uh, 29.
00:26:40
4, I believe, from three in the early, all of yeah, that's in all competitions.
00:26:47
Uh, in, uh, in ah, in play last year where he obviously played more than just euro cup.
00:26:55
So that's I think, where to me, at least it's You know, I tell you what those turnovers really do. Stand out, though.
00:27:05
Yeah, that's what kills me.
00:27:07
But he still ended up.
00:27:08
He still ended up getting his turnovers.
00:27:09
I think down to like three a game overall across all competitions.
00:27:17
So he he is still a, I think, a good guy, a good prospect who was asked to just do a lot who won't be asked to do that as a rookie and continue to grow and prosper as a young kid.
00:27:30
The MBA to prospects for me, the interest with me, for them, for the pelicans.
00:27:34
One. Aaron Smith.
00:27:35
I think he's the best shooter in the draft.
00:27:36
You could argue with me with Desmond named, I think need Smith.
00:27:39
You look at his numbers from all five spots on the floor.
00:27:41
He's shooting over 50 from every store, like dribble handoffs all that.
00:27:45
Then we talked about the Halliburton.
00:27:47
I don't think he will.
00:27:48
Actually, I know he's not gonna follow, therefore, so they would probably trade up and get him.
00:27:52
But if they could pull it off.
00:27:54
Halliburton is a guy I found interesting because he's not really a ball handler.
00:27:59
He's more of a ball mover.
00:28:00
So that would definitely help Lonzo because he could get shot for Alonso, like, you know, catching shoot three.
00:28:05
Especially when he was shooting.
00:28:06
Well, Lonzo is making shots and also with Zion some pick and roll, You know, some pick and pop things with him and, like, JJ radios.
00:28:13
Find them open in the corner.
00:28:14
I think caliber will be a guy would be interesting.
00:28:16
I don't know how I'm able to get him because you're gonna be picking in heaven.
00:28:20
What? Yeah, that would be one.
00:28:22
If you're gonna have to go up to get Halliburton, I think you'd have the backcourt with the funkiest shot combination if you, Esso and Halliburton.
00:28:33
But we saw it.
00:28:34
Fred Vincent and one of the assistant coaches.
00:28:35
He did wonders helping out Lonzo with his shot last year, moving his shot, you know, from the left to the right.
00:28:40
And obviously, it took once in a while.
00:28:42
But it helps him kind of get to, uh, where he was shooting consistently 38 39 40% for for a big stretch of the season.
00:28:51
So there's coaches who could take care of the shot and get him right um, his his fit with Zo would would be would be an interesting one.
00:29:01
Um, he's if he's a guy again.
00:29:03
If you're looking to put somebody next to zero, you want somebody to get you into sets a little bit better.
00:29:08
Uh, can he do that? Yeah.
00:29:12
Can he? Can he, you know, be there as a defender? Yeah.
00:29:15
I just think it would take You have to move up.
00:29:18
But good thing is, you got a heck of a lot of picks to move up if you wanna go get him.
00:29:23
No, definitely, obviously, obviously.
00:29:25
No.
00:29:26
We're in the thick of ah, for agency.
00:29:27
Things started to happen.
00:29:28
What have you been hearing about the pelicans going to get certain guys? I've been I've heard, uh, Serge Ibaka was the guy that they were potentially interested.
00:29:34
Then we'll see if they can if they want to decide to go in recent Derek Favorite.
00:29:38
But what have you heard about applicants sounding anybody new? Yeah, the problem with the pills right now is they haven't made a lot of noise in terms of what they want to do.
00:29:48
Free agency, because they didn't know what the cap was gonna be every time I talk to somebody there like we don't know what's happening.
00:29:53
Um, you know, we found out everything from you guys, so I think that kind of kind of stopped it.
00:30:00
Um, maybe.
00:30:02
I mean, Derrick favors if you want to bring him back for the continuity part.
00:30:05
Maybe Maybe this time it just kind of let maybe sign on placing more five minutes.
00:30:09
Jackson takes place.
00:30:10
Um, or five minutes.
00:30:11
Maybe you look for a different option there, but they've really been quiet on that front.
00:30:15
I know.
00:30:16
I remember those odds that came out and it was like, you know, surge.
00:30:18
It was they were in the top for for Serge.
00:30:21
And they were in the top for Gallinari, and they were in the top for Joe Harris.
00:30:25
Somehow e was like, First of all, I wanna know where to get nods from, because I know the subway in government, the office.
00:30:33
So, um, the big thing to me is they're gonna They already have a lot of guys still under contract.
00:30:40
I mean, you still have, uh, you know, you still I mean, let's start now. You got blood.
00:30:46
So in in hill, you still got Lonzo.
00:30:49
JJ, Josh Heart.
00:30:51
You still gotta die on brand name.
00:30:52
You still got Jackson Nicolo Melli.
00:30:54
McKeel Alexander Walker.
00:30:55
Uh, that's 11 12 guys right there.
00:30:57
You're gonna add 1/13 pick.
00:30:58
You're gonna add a 24th pick.
00:31:00
You're gonna add a 39th pick.
00:31:01
And that's not resigning.
00:31:03
Derrick favors. It's not resigning each one more.
00:31:05
That's not resign.
00:31:06
Darius Miller is under contract to.
00:31:07
By the way, Um, that's not resounding Frank Jackson.
00:31:10
So you've got a lot of decisions to make.
00:31:13
That's why I think one of those picks, if not too, could be drafted.
00:31:15
Stash Guys have guys go play overseas because they do have a lot of roster decisions to make on again.
00:31:21
It's Zwick having, uh, you know, George Hill and Derek, I mean, and Eric, but so on the roster.
00:31:27
So, uh, if you could move those guys out in single deals, great.
00:31:31
If you're gonna aggregate them, put them together and try to deal them out.
00:31:34
That's gonna end up taking you into into December 8th into training camp.
00:31:38
So you maybe don't wanna waste that much time With only two weeks to prepare for the season so Um, but that's that's why David Griffin and Trajan Langdon and Swin Cash.
00:31:47
They all get paid a lot more money than I do.
00:31:48
They get paid to make those decisions, and I get paid to write about.
00:31:53
I think if you're talking about drafting stash guys, the guy that I would be interested to see if they could get him, they could get him at 24.
00:31:58
I think that was Leandro Bone Marrow, the guard from the FC Barcelona. That's one.
00:32:02
That's one of my I had my eye on, especially in 24 for sure.
00:32:05
He's, uh he just has a I love him.
00:32:08
He just has a unique swag about.
00:32:09
He kind of reminds me of a Manu Ginobili.
00:32:11
People are gonna do the comparison cause they're both Argentinean, but that's what he kind of reminds me of.
00:32:15
He has, like, a swag in, and there's no, you know, he already said, I don't think he's gonna come over right away.
00:32:19
So that's the guy you could just literally like.
00:32:21
You said, Drafting stash.
00:32:23
Yeah, he he was one I picked up, and I'm pretty sure, um, ESPN actually mocks him, too, to the pills in 24 today.
00:32:32
Um, just a big kind of combo guy who can do ah lot of different things because I don't think you're gonna be in the mix for poku.
00:32:41
Um, he's probably gonna go probably teens.
00:32:43
I think lately, you know, I think I think I've heard her Boston a lot for that because because the amount of picks that they have But you know, uh, Romero is he's a 67 guy.
00:32:53
He can play once, 23 If he stays, that's great.
00:32:58
He could work on his shooting.
00:33:00
Um, that works.
00:33:02
Another one you could say is take home Alauddin.
00:33:05
Another French guard who's who's in this draft.
00:33:08
He's the French guard who isn't killing Hayes.
00:33:10
Uh, eso uh, he's another guy who can play point play off the ball.
00:33:15
Those are the two that I think you can you can expect that would be a target for you because the Pels already have a drafting staff guy and De de Lozada, who they like right now D d.
00:33:29
Is a was their second round pick last year.
00:33:32
He's gonna play another year in Sydney with Sydney Kings, formerly with Will Weaver, who I thought could have been a nice candidate for the pills, um, for the head coaching job or the assistant coach's job.
00:33:43
So, um, you can excuse me.
00:33:46
You can Probably there.
00:33:49
There's some options there, if you wanna, you know, drafting stash guy.
00:33:52
I really do like bone marrow, though.
00:33:54
Yeah, I like in this world eso talking about.
00:33:56
You know, Pelican, they just got a new head coach s veejay.
00:33:59
Well, Steve Van Gundy, um, when I first seen, I thought that was kind of, um I wasn't I didn't know how I really felt about, you know, he hasn't coached in a while, but I was kind of looking at the piece that he's had.
00:34:08
You know, he's coached JJ Red****.
00:34:10
They have a tremendous chemistry coached JJ Red****.
00:34:12
But I think five or six years while he was with the Magic Zion isn't you know, Dwight Howard, but he is kind of polarizing in the sense of how he could be used.
00:34:21
So I want to see what if if Van Gundy can, you know, I guess he's not gonna be Dwight.
00:34:26
How he's understanding no dimes, a lot more skilled than he's more of a wing of anything than definitely the white is.
00:34:32
But he is polarized.
00:34:33
He's super athletic, and I feel he could do Dwight ish stuff.
00:34:36
Especially.
00:34:37
He's around the rim.
00:34:38
How did you What was your thought on their feet? Especially with the current team that they have now? I thought they were gonna go younger.
00:34:43
Um, maybe somebody who fit with the core a little bit mawr.
00:34:47
Um, but I don't I don't not like, you know, You think it's a very good higher.
00:34:52
Still, especially because of some of the assistant coach and moves that he made.
00:34:56
Um, I like them, you know, keeping Fred Benson.
00:34:59
I like them, uh, keeping teas****, uh, elevating her.
00:35:04
Teresa Weathers**** Thio an assistant coaching spot.
00:35:07
Um, you know, he his teams, even when he was in Detroit, you know, first you go back and look at his window.
00:35:15
Miami teams.
00:35:16
Those teams were excellent, uh, both winning over 60 63% of their games around there.
00:35:22
Uh, when he got to Detroit, it was it was more Stan Van Gundy.
00:35:25
The GM that kind of handicap.
00:35:26
Stan Van Gundy, the coach with Cem Cem moves that he made but 10 out of his 11 seasons that he finished as a head coach.
00:35:33
It was one year in Miami. He didn't finish.
00:35:35
Uh, he ended up, um, you know, with the top 10 or top 11 defense in 10 of those 11 years, Um, a top five or 61 I think four or five times.
00:35:46
And that's what this team needs.
00:35:48
And that's what Griff wants.
00:35:49
I mean, when Griff mentioned it last year in his opening press conference, was, I guess was now probably, uh, well before the season started.
00:35:57
So you mentioned like being first to 95 or first to 100.
00:36:01
They want defensive minded teams, and I think you saw defensive minded presence from Zion at Duke.
00:36:08
You need him to get back to that.
00:36:10
There's a lot of what you need him to get back to doing.
00:36:13
Um, everything kind of hinges on him, but offensively, I think you're going to see Brandon Ingram become more of a creator this year.
00:36:20
And I think you know, Griff is kind of already mentioned him as it is, possibly being a two guard. Attn.
00:36:26
One point, and I think he, with the ball in his hands could could could make some more stuff go a little bit And I think, uh, you know, they can.
00:36:34
They can unlock a different level of that.
00:36:36
But the biggest thing here is you needed Ah, Costa was gonna bring defense, and I think that's what Stan Van Gundy does.
00:36:44
I think one thing that he'll do, too, is he'll help these guys make sure that they are very young.
00:36:48
And I think that him, you know, he's got a bunch of places.
00:36:50
He's bad, you know, great success.
00:36:51
I think the young guys, you know, not necessarily look up to him.
00:36:54
But they'd be like, You know what this guy gets that he's had success in this league. He's coached a while.
00:36:58
He's been pretty much good everywhere he went.
00:36:59
And you have a young team.
00:37:00
I think that he will be able to help these guys mature.
00:37:03
Especially when you have a polarizing figure like Zion.
00:37:06
You're gonna want him toe not only mature, but, you know, on and off the court.
00:37:10
But you could just help him develop properly.
00:37:12
Yeah, and his his His growth is key.
00:37:17
I mean, that's the biggest thing here.
00:37:19
And but what? I think you need Thio think even if you're a Palestinian, if you're not a Palestine just watching this team, you just want to see growth this year.
00:37:26
I don't necessarily think growth means, um playoff berth, because you're obviously gonna be your in the stacked west.
00:37:34
Phoenix is obviously made news.
00:37:35
They didn't make it last year.
00:37:36
Um, okay, so he may not go anywhere.
00:37:39
Even though they got rid of Chris Paul warriors or back.
00:37:43
Who knows what happens with Houston right now? Uh, you still got the Spurs who didn't make it.
00:37:48
You still got the Kings who were trying to do some things, even the T Wolves.
00:37:52
They're gonna think that they're going to try to make the playoffs.
00:37:54
Yeah, so everybody in the West is pretty much gonna try to be to be fighting for it.
00:38:01
And if you just happen to, you know, take another year of growth and you finished 10th or ninth again, I think as long as you show growth this year and the next year is when you start to take this step, I think you're okay if you're a policeman, I think the Republicans there in a you know, a really good situation I know people are seeing it, but the Lakers that they're not a young, you know, they're not that mean that Anthony Davis is young, but collectively, they're not that young, LeBron.
00:38:25
I mean, who knows when LeBron gonna retired? He said.
00:38:26
There's every year, but big picture.
00:38:29
I retire until he gets to play one game with Ronnie.
00:38:31
Don't Brandi goes.
00:38:33
That's what I feel like it'll be.
00:38:34
It'll be around for three or four more seasons.
00:38:37
Eso big picture.
00:38:39
Let's say you have four more 3 to 4 more seasons by that point.
00:38:42
You know the Warriors.
00:38:43
They're old, you know.
00:38:44
Step will be 33 this year.
00:38:45
Clay's 30. I believed Raymond's in his 30.
00:38:47
They're not a young team anymore.
00:38:49
The Clippers three.
00:38:50
You know how they imploded last year? Who knows what they're gonna do in the next two years, specially with their free agents coming up.
00:38:55
So the pelicans, like you, said, I think Rose is the most important thing.
00:38:58
But they're in a unique spot where, like you said 234 years in the line, they could be the things could swap.
00:39:04
They could be the top team of of the way especially with so much young talent that they have and ask if they have to draft.
00:39:09
Yeah, and they have a guy named Zion Williamson.
00:39:12
Yeah, it was really good when he plays.
00:39:15
I I don't care what I saw in the bubble.
00:39:16
I saw him before.
00:39:17
He is really, really good at playing basketball.
00:39:20
And ah, you now have a chance to to grow that you have a chance to grow with him with Brandon Ingram, who was an All Star.
00:39:29
You have a chance Thio to continue to build what you could find out whether these young kids Jackson the keel.
00:39:35
Lonzo.
00:39:36
If those guys are gonna kind of answer the bell and start stepping up, what does Josh Hart do? He's probably sticking around.
00:39:42
You have the veteran leadership in JJ.
00:39:45
George Hill can kind of provide that as well.
00:39:47
Uh, even some of the other coaching moves you made you bring it, Corey Brewer, you bring, bring, bring, uh, Udrih.
00:39:53
You're bringing in guys who are legit, eh? NBA players.
00:39:57
So I think in the long run, you're gonna see a growth in this team.
00:40:01
And I think that's the key is you just have to continue to grow whether that's make the playoffs or not.
00:40:06
Obviously, you wanna make the playoffs.
00:40:07
That's what you you obviously want to do.
00:40:09
But, um, that's kind of think The biggest thing for me is to make sure that you continue to grow.
00:40:16
And if the defense improved, I think the record will is, well, I want to transition Talking about the big man. Big man.
00:40:23
Can we just talk about Amazon? You know, a lot of people have been talking about, you know, his frame, you know, should he lose away.
00:40:28
You know, this and that I don't know, for me is losing cause, you know, sometimes that just might be how he's built, You know what I mean? That might just Yeah, he's That's just, you know, and you just built big.
00:40:41
He's a he's a massive, super athletic, polarizing human being, and I think that's just kinda who he is and kind of how he's going to be now.
00:40:49
I think for me it made me kind of nervous is how explosive he is with his niece, kind of for me.
00:40:54
Every time he falls to the ground, I kinda cringe a little bit, grab something like, is he okay? Well, yeah, every time he falls.
00:41:02
But I guess my question is, what were they going to do? As far as they're just getting him, you know, in more shape, going forward, they're gonna, you know, maybe nutrition is, you know, dietitians getting like that or what needs to improve for him.
00:41:14
Maybe toe stay healthy and get him back into shape.
00:41:16
Long term, Zion is gonna ultimately have to make a a LeBron level of commitment to his body.
00:41:25
Um, where and where you know LeBron is.
00:41:29
You know, Maverick, I think, has mentioned it several times.
00:41:32
You know, LeBron puts a million dollars, um, or into keeping his body right.
00:41:36
And I think it's it's why he's able to be as effective as he is a 35 36 year old.
00:41:41
Um, Zions gonna have to do the same thing, uh, to get his body right there.
00:41:47
Okay. With him playing a to 85.
00:41:49
That's what he's done.
00:41:50
But I think they would like to see a leaner one.
00:41:52
I think they would like to see a guy who, uh, can get that explosive in this back.
00:41:57
I don't think he was ever, truly 100% last year because of the knee s.
00:42:03
So I think this off season has been has been key.
00:42:06
I know he's been working out with the Steptoe Adlai Anderson continuing to grow, continuing to work on his game, continuing to work on everything.
00:42:13
Um, but he's key on, and ultimately this team is going to go the way he goes.
00:42:19
Um, you know, one way or the other, is it possible for him? Not, I mean, one is a mental maturity.
00:42:26
Gonna just dedication from, like, you said, reach a LeBron level of, ah, commitment.
00:42:30
But is it possible one.
00:42:32
You know, one.
00:42:33
He's young, he's very young, the good food out there in New Orleans.
00:42:35
And is it possible for him to lean up or just tone up? Is that possible? I think it is.
00:42:43
I think he's got.
00:42:44
He's just got one of these unique body types where it's his body prototype is like the 1% of the 1% where his body is going to do things differently than than me and you were going to do.
00:42:58
I mean, it's just that's just how it is.
00:43:00
And I think that's part of the part of the process.
00:43:04
And, you know, uh, they obviously were as careful as they could be getting him back last year.
00:43:12
And I think in March he really waas I truly, I'll go back to this.
00:43:17
I truly do feel if I know there were five games out with 19 to play.
00:43:23
I really do feel that the pelts could have made the playoffs last year if nothing stops.
00:43:27
If in a covert free world, um, they would have continued on the easy schedule the two games against Memphis who they had already beaten twice.
00:43:36
I felt like they could have gone on in one and done some things, Um, in part because I in was getting into the best shape possible.
00:43:46
And I think that Waas the big thing there for me is that he was getting into the best, the best shape possible and then had a setback in the summer when you know, he he had to miss so much time in the bubble.
00:43:59
He only had a couple of practices here before he had to leave and then come back and he just wasn't himself.
00:44:04
And I think once he gets to that guy again.
00:44:07
You'll start to see him kind of take off and be the guy we expect it to be when they took him with the first overall pick for me.
00:44:14
I guess one thing that's interesting about design for me is you know, he's this guy.
00:44:19
We've already We've bins ionized, really since he's been that Duke.
00:44:22
But I like to call it.
00:44:23
He is just so polarized.
00:44:26
I mean, the guy, he's a young player 24 game, the guys on the cover of two K you know what I mean? It's like things like that.
00:44:32
But for me, it's just if he can stay healthy.
00:44:34
I think he's kind of not only physically in the talent that he has, but just socially.
00:44:39
He's kind of built to be the next big superstars like I mean, you look at the smile.
00:44:43
He has a big personality, is really you know, he's fun.
00:44:45
He's fun to watch on the corporate as a person, and I don't like, I'll tell you what.
00:44:51
He's just a big kid dude.
00:44:53
He really is like he's got the endor*****t deals.
00:44:56
He's got two K.
00:44:57
He's got, uh, Mercedes bands, mountain dude.
00:45:01
Uh, money like he's.
00:45:04
I'm gonna forget some because he's got so many at this point because of his personality.
00:45:09
And I think there's a reason why the Pels were the opener last year towards for Toronto.
00:45:16
There was a reason the pills were the opener for the bubble.
00:45:19
There's a reason the pills were on Christmas.
00:45:21
Guess what? It was Zion Williamson.
00:45:23
It's why I think again they're gonna be featured again because of Zion people, people watch him, people eyeballs air on him social and otherwise.
00:45:32
And, uh, it's a lot of pressure that have for a kid, it really is.
00:45:36
And him handling that is kind of part of his growth process.
00:45:42
Because for me, I think that you could see, like if he pops and I think he will, he stays healthy.
00:45:48
People are probably gonna disagreement.
00:45:49
I think he's gonna top of Yannis.
00:45:52
I'll do.
00:45:53
I think it's far.
00:45:54
I think he's gonna talk because Yang is.
00:45:55
The thing is, we've seen science and he's in high school.
00:45:57
We see them in color, you know, Johannes, Although he's fascinating that now you know, it s p another network. They put him on that noon.
00:46:03
Do you know what? During the bubble, they put, you know, Zions closing, closing.
00:46:06
You know, the night shift for the ESPN slate and Johannes.
00:46:09
Even though he's already two time MVP, they're showing him at noon.
00:46:13
You know, Yonas, he had busted guy.
00:46:15
We okay? Yeah, he had, but or whatever.
00:46:17
If he does that, that is the That is the opening midday and late night store.
00:46:22
If he does, it's just he's so polar.
00:46:23
I think that if he can pop and stay healthy, I think that he's gonna eventually just topple Johannes.
00:46:29
As popularity wise, I'll say this, Um, the potential is there for sure, and it's not.
00:46:38
It's not just media conjecture.
00:46:40
It's not just, you know, me and you and other guys saying this.
00:46:42
Like JJ Red**** has said it.
00:46:44
He's gone.
00:46:45
He says he's a first at all.
00:46:48
All team MBA M V P.
00:46:49
Lead a team to the championship caliber player if he reaches his potential.
00:46:53
The if is the key there, however a.
00:46:58
I think he has the want to to want to do it and the drive to want to do it, and the kid just wants to play ball like he just wants the hoop and when he gets out there, I mean, even if he was, let's say he was 90% last year.
00:47:13
I mean, he was doing a ridiculous things on the offensive end.
00:47:17
His defense obviously needed to come along.
00:47:20
I think that was That was the biggest key.
00:47:22
Was his defense needed to come along? What kind of the biggest shock? I think.
00:47:25
But he's had an offseason work now in a year under his belt.
00:47:29
So that's that's where I think you'll see the most growth and, you know, down the line.
00:47:33
I do think he has the potential toe to be the best player in the NBA, but, uh, you know, that's that's gonna be, you know, him staying healthy, him taking care of his body and, uh, for for him to reach that.
00:47:44
Like you said, 90% of their was games.
00:47:46
You know, he was he was the best player on the floor, like, you know, for several for for several games.
00:47:49
Stretch.
00:47:50
He was, you know, there was nothing.
00:47:51
You couldn't move him.
00:47:52
He couldn't do anything with him, especially got to the elbow when there was a game.
00:47:55
I think it was O K C. Game.
00:47:57
I remember where he you know, You think Steven Adams is this big, burly, hulking guy, remember? He you know Steven Adams bump, you know, 56 ft back off him.
00:48:05
I remember in the preseason this was a game that I was like, All right, he's going to do something this year.
00:48:12
Not that I didn't think he was gonna be special, but he went through Rudy Gobert's chest twice.
00:48:18
Mm. In a preseason game.
00:48:20
And once he went right over him and scored and another one Rudy met him went vertical, and Zion missed the shot.
00:48:29
And by the time Rudy's feet were hitting the ground, Zion was already dunking it.
00:48:32
Uh, Duncan, the offensive rebound back those That was the game where I was like All right, this kid is different on.
00:48:39
And even when he wasn't with the limited practice time as he waas, he was still averaging 23 6, pushing dudes out the way.
00:48:50
I mean, he was getting better game.
00:48:51
The game that he was just getting better.
00:48:53
Yeah, because he's getting more comfortable.
00:48:55
He was getting what he was.
00:48:56
He was. He was He was getting stamina back.
00:48:58
He was doing all that. And I think that's what you're going to see.
00:49:00
Uh, for him right now, Yeah, I got, like, two more things.
00:49:03
I'm not going to get you out of here.
00:49:04
But what stood out to me with them last year? Just how we saw this at Duke, but how he gets on and off the ground so quickly.
00:49:10
You know, I was I was telling people when they got rather like, Well, he can't play on the wing.
00:49:13
This and I was like, There's more.
00:49:15
There's multiple ways to score about.
00:49:16
It's not all about shooting threes and playing how James Harden does.
00:49:19
I said, he's gonna He's gonna get 8 to 12 points a game, just strictly off of hustling.
00:49:23
He's gonna someone's gonna message.
00:49:24
He's gonna get them on his hip, bully them, lay it up.
00:49:27
He's gonna do that 8 to 10 points a game minimum.
00:49:29
We haven't even gotten to him to spend move.
00:49:31
He loves to do the jump stopping the lob.
00:49:33
We haven't even gotten to that.
00:49:34
Yes, he's gonna score 10 12 points a game minimum, just strictly hustling his the biggest thing for me so far in his game has been the second jump.
00:49:43
His second jump on the offensive rebound end is ridiculous.
00:49:48
There was a stretch where for when you adjust it for minutes, I think Onley only under German maybe had a better offensive rebounding percentage.
00:49:56
I don't know where he actually where you ended up finishing, but he was.
00:50:01
He was insane on that side, insane with his second job.
00:50:04
He is getting off the floor before your landing.
00:50:06
Um, and that's just his anticipation.
00:50:10
That's his, Um, that's his way of just getting to the ball.
00:50:14
And I think his smarts on that end, his ability to read the rim is, is what's gonna what's gonna carry him now if he can apply that to the defense event.
00:50:24
He was not very good on the defensive glass last year.
00:50:28
Um, if he can apply that, then that's gonna go a long way, and I think that's the biggest part of his game.
00:50:34
He's going to be a 28 to 30 point scorer, you know, at his peak.
00:50:38
If not if not more, Uh, if not more.
00:50:42
And I think, ah, you know, he could eventually get the 10 to 12 rebounds a game and do that concept.
00:50:49
But, you know, you go back and look at his numbers.
00:50:52
Last year he was averaging, you know, 2.
00:50:53
7 offensive rebounds and 3.
00:50:55
6 defensive rebounds.
00:50:56
When you break that down by percentage, you know his offensive rebounding rate.
00:51:01
I think it took a hit in the bubble, but because I remember at one point his offensive rebounding percentage was better than his defensive rebounding percentage.
00:51:07
Eso He's got a ways to go there, but he's just so so good on the offensive end right now.
00:51:14
In the last guy I was talking about, two was killed.
00:51:16
Alexander Walker.
00:51:17
He was my when he when he was going out of high school.
00:51:21
He was probably my favorite out of that class.
00:51:23
When he got drafted, he was definitely a guy was very high on.
00:51:26
I still really like him now.
00:51:27
I think he has a bunch of town.
00:51:28
I think he kind of has to know how the package it all together in the game.
00:51:31
The game was slowed down for me.
00:51:32
Still, he's a kid in his league.
00:51:34
What are their hopes for him, you know, going forward.
00:51:37
Yeah, obviously they want him Thio be the kind of guy who could be a lead guard who could, you know, possibly end up being a starter or maybe be the guy next to, um next to Alonso or maybe take over? I don't know, but they see him as a guy who could be a long term guy.
00:51:52
I think the problem with the keel last year was he pushed it too early.
00:51:58
Um, and then it was kind of funny.
00:52:02
I think he he gets sent down to the G league, breaks his wrist in the G league, uh, and then play and shoots with his other hand for two games because he was like, Well, I'm down here. I'm gonna get minutes.
00:52:15
So there was a lot if you go back and look at those those that last game of the bubble, I know it.
00:52:23
It was basically Ah, it was essentially a pre season game.
00:52:27
Okay, but But you saw the potential there.
00:52:30
29.7 assists.
00:52:32
I had six turnovers, but hey was able to get to the line.
00:52:36
He was shot five free throws, his 11 of 18 from the field.
00:52:39
Uh, That's the kind of guy that they think he can be.
00:52:43
At times throughout the year, he pressed a little bit.
00:52:46
He pushed it.
00:52:47
Yeah, his finishing was not there.
00:52:50
He shot under 40% on two point field goals.
00:52:53
Um, he has a lot of talent.
00:52:57
I think he just pressed too much early.
00:53:00
Um, but he is a guy who I mean, they took him for a reason.
00:53:03
They targeted him along with Jackson Hayes, to be guys to come in with Zion.
00:53:08
And those three have a good bond.
00:53:11
Uh, Nick Eel is is a guy, though, who still needs to grow.
00:53:15
And I think he flashed that potential.
00:53:18
Um, he flashed that potential during during summer league, and everybody kind of got excited on.
00:53:26
Then we and then you gotta have the drug back a little bit.
00:53:28
But he's a guy who I think can continue on, um, he and still do some some some good things.
00:53:36
Yeah.
00:53:37
I mean, some of the heat popping. I was watching that game in love again school.
00:53:39
He was just He was going in the same remember, everything he was doing was just phenomenal.
00:53:45
And yeah, he was.
00:53:48
He's super topping.
00:53:49
I think the game will eventually it'll slow down.
00:53:51
So I think he just cause to find a home run play alive, which I mean, a lot of young guards like to do that, especially with his skill set.
00:53:56
But I think that he will be fine going for especially, I think, you know, maybe George Hill can help mentor him.
00:54:01
Not only him and Alonso, but they will help him calm down.
00:54:04
Someone tell you what Nikki Nikki feel like is like a baby bird to JJ Red**** like Nikkila.
00:54:09
Did you write like he? That's I mean, it's a good guy to get your habits from is, uh, if you're if you're a young player.
00:54:17
Yeah, sure.
00:54:18
Well, I want to thank you for coming on my podcast today.
00:54:20
I know you're gonna have a really, really busy next couple of 8%.
00:54:24
78 days.
00:54:25
So you have fun with yes, draft free agency, starting trying to figure out that, then getting a camp on December 1st? Um, you know, maybe I guess I'll take a break for Thanksgiving.
00:54:37
Yeah, maybe so. Yeah.
00:54:38
You have fun playing two k and thank you for coming on my show today Going right back to it right now, baby.
00:54:42
Gotta get in there.
00:54:43
Well, I can fax right high, bro.
00:54:46
Alright, man. Thank you.
00:54:48
Problem? Yeah.
00:54:58
Alright, man, I appreciate it.
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Tobias Bass @Tbass43

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uh, but they're gonna end up having a mate like Milwaukee is gonna have to make it.
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He's gonna have to walk across the stage in the Milwaukee had It's gonna be from my walk across.
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The stage is in the stage, but like he's gonna have toe.
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It's just weird, but it's all good.
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Alright.
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You ready, though? Yeah.
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Let me Texas wants.
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All right.
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What's up, everybody? Welcome to the A Peanut.
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This six man podcast on your hosted by his best we're here.
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Join with a very special guest.
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He's a friend of mine, a mentor of mine and average Saints fan, for whatever reason.
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Alleged alleged, uh, two K player, even though he refuses to play me.
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Maybe it's because do the lack of ability or lack of confidence right now.
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By the way, the five on there was a game.
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There's a game that is gonna be paused way.
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And lastly, um um, ESPN pelicans reporter Andrew Lopez.
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How you doing, my friend? I'm good, man.
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It's, uh it is aware it's a wild time right now.
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Thio cover the MBA, especially the pills with everything going on, But, uh, e mean fun is good it's gonna be It's gonna be a wild ride this week.
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These next three weeks, Azzawi getting the training camp and then, you know, before that December 22nd starts.
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So it's it's all kind of good right now.
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I'm just glad you know, sports that back.
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I mean, remember a time in March and eighth we weren't doing anything, you know, we just It was it was a lot.
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It was kind of funny because, like so So back then, I mean, maybe like April, May June.
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We started running through a lot of our ideas for, you know, stuff we would normally do in the offseason.
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Like we did the Jersey thing where, you know, me and a couple other people, we rank the top 50 or way had to send in our top 75.
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Wait.
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So are we had to send in our top 15 were in the top 75 jerseys.
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Um, we did player rankings.
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We did all the stuff you normally do in the off season because it was just gonna take so long.
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So the fact that we're I know some of maybe the Lakers and the heat don't like it, but the fact that we're able to kind of get back and get going so quickly, um is is nice.
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And I know I know some front offices are Or maybe not as, um, not as happy right now with the the going through all this, they just get a salary cap.
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Now, they got to prepare for the draft on Wednesday.
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Free agency.
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After that, it's just a lot going on.
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But from a fan perspective, this is great because we get we get so many sports.
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Yeah.
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Uh, now what? Once they get in the into the season, I'm sure they're gonna have some of the same issues that baseball has some of the same issues that football is having with, you know, the cove.
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It related tests.
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Kind of taking some people out.
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But for the most part, um, it is good.
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Thio just have sports back.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the thing is people have to understand is you're gonna have positive test.
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You just kinda can't be afraid of.
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Unfortunately, obviously, you would love to have no positive, but you're gonna have positive test.
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It is all about you know, people being responsible and just not overreacting.
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as not only as a team, but there's an organization like the N b A.
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Just don't overreact.
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You're gonna have a positive, but just how to neutralize it and handle it the best way possible.
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Yeah, The biggest thing is, is having those protocols in place.
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Uh, what you what you don't want is, like, cancel games and things like that.
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What, you're gonna be inevitable, uh, during this year, that I mean, I mean, it's the N B A.
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I mean, the NFL wasn't wasn't immune to it, you know? And they're playing once a week.
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You know, baseball had early on in baseball, there was a stretch.
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It was like, 30 straight days or some sort of game was delayed because of a test.
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And, um, from personal experience, you don't want to get it.
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Trust me, you don't.
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But it's about what is what is next.
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What is coming, You know, down the line.
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How do you prepare for this? How do you, um how do you make sure everybody is healthy? I know for for like, for media wise.
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Like I'm pretty sure we're not gonna be anywhere near these players just to minimize the contact for arenas that will have fans you know you're gonna be, I think, you know, 20 to 30 ft away from this court at minimum.
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So they're already taken the right steps.
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Um, it's just a matter of these guys doing as much as they can to kind of follow follow protocol as much as they can, right? So last night, you know, I'm watching the office just chilling.
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Kept my phone and my alerts on, you know, I got yours on everyone else's.
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I knows on and and I'm getting sleepy.
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But I said something's gonna happen tonight.
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I don't know what is gonna gonna be, but something something's gonna happen, like, boom, right across my screen.
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Drew Holiday do Holiday for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill.
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And I think three first round picks briefing first and to swaps right now is this is what the current one is.
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So for me, you know Drew Harlem.
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He's a great player, one of the best two way players and league guys like Daniel.
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It'll even said he's the best perimeter defender and leave.
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Many players have said that I love your heart.
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I'm definitely a fan of him.
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I think the pelicans came out long term.
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I think they cannot. Very well.
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You're getting three first round picks and two swaps, and you have to hard.
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I mean, I mean, Eric Bledsoe, you could potentially move again.
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They came out, in my opinion.
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Very well.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I'm be honest.
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I didn't expect it to be, uh, that much of a hall for for Drew when you look at it, Drew is yes.
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He is one of the best defenders in the league.
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He is.
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You know, k d said it.
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George Dame said it. JJ Red**** has said numerous times.
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Um, but he is 30 years old.
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Hey is essentially on an expiring contract because he does have a player option.
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So you do have to worry about that.
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Um, and it, But his 11th or 12th season in the base.
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So he up there.
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But I do feel like he could help Milwaukee right away.
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Did not think he was gonna be, you know, two players, three picks and two swaps.
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No way.
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I thought it was gonna be that, but in much the way that, um, the Paul George Clippers trade was last year.
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This is not just a deal for Drew. Holiday.
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Um, this is essentially a deal.
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Obviously, you also have the Bogdan Bogdanovich trade that you made last night.
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But the the idea here is you make this trade to to secure Yonas.
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You make this trade to make sure, Yonas, you know, signs that Supermax which you hope he will do, which he has until, uh, before the season.
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So December 21st.
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Um, I still I don't think that's what they were gonna get.
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You looked at some of the packages kind of being talked around.
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Maybe you had Denver where they could have got, you know, Gary Harris would have been the top of that deal.
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Um, maybe you get bold, bold and Monte Morris.
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Maybe it's one of the other.
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Maybe a picker to Brooklyn probably had to pull out of it because of James Harden.
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Deal.
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Um, for the potential deal, I should say, uh, maybe you were gonna get a picking a player from Atlanta.
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There was a lot going on.
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Boston was trying to get involved.
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But at the end of the day, Thio and the spacing out of the picks where you get it all the way to 2027 which basically means there's possibly 1/6 grader today.
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There's a kid in the sixth grade who will end up Ah, 2027 publicans pick because of this trade, its while to think about it from that perspective.
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But that's how far out you got the pics.
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But even even if the honest signs the Max, let's say he signs the Supermax, he still might be gone by 2026 or 2027 so those picks might still end up being valuable.
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So, um, it's just crazy, man, that that that that's what you get.
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But, you know, props, props that David Griffin for, um, for for I guess getting this, uh, to be able to stretch out all those picks and get everything, everything that you can, uh, including another pick in the draft upcoming.
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So now you have two picks in the first round.
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You can move up.
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You can.
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You can take two guys there, whatever you want to do.
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The biggest thing that it does, and this is before we get to blood.
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So our George Hill, the biggest thing it does is it gives you so many pics Now that the next time you know you can either end up packaging those picks and moving up, you have lower level of talent that you could end up getting on the cheap when you have design on a bigger contract, when you have bring the *** want a bigger contract.
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So as those guys end up, um, you know, down the road trying to, you know, make more money.
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Obviously you can get cheaper guys on on.
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You know, you get lower back in, guys, you get maybe a drafting stash.
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You have options.
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Even if those picks Lakers and, uh, Milwaukee end up on the backside of the first round, right for me, this is a This is a risk for the bucks.
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I know they have.
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It was funny earlier, before earlier we did this pockets.
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I actually talked to a ah guy from the book staff and he was saying, you know, this was the movie had to make, you know, try to secure.
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Yeah, I don't blame them for doing it.
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They're going all in, you know, they're going to go all in, and so they could bring him back.
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But let's just say you know, it gets the day before the season and he doesn't sign it.
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I would be one sweating a little bit, because if he does decide to leave, you have jihad.
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A who was a free agent potentially next year.
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You honestly, I would have to think that if you are honest, doesn't sign that Drew probably would also try to be like, Yeah, he's gone, too.
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Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think he leads to.
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So you're looking at from the pelican standpoint, those picks, those picks become very ***y very quickly.
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I think so.
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If be honest, doesn't sign the Supermax and he has to do it in what? Not even not even a month.
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So he has not about maybe, maybe a month, almost about a month now.
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The flip side of that is you don't make this deal or the Bogdanovich deal if you don't think he's going to sign.
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And I think a lot of people now feel that he will sign, But you never know.
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I mean, it could go sour in two or three years, and he can mean Hell James Harden is trying to opt out it, not opt out.
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He's trying to ask out with two years in a player option, but at this point is really I mean, what does what it picks even mean? I mean, contracts even mean if there's gonna be able to ask out 34 years in.
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So I don't know if you're honest is necessarily built that way, though I do think that he probably had some sort of a blessing on this deal.
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If you're gonna, you know, make these moves.
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But to me, it z it's almost I mean, if if Milwaukee goes out and wins a title to me, then it's almost a win win situation.
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Um, because you for New Orleans, you you weren't necessarily gonna, uh you aren't necessarily probably going to compete for a championship in the next, um, you know, 23 years anyway, so let Drew go do what he needs to do.
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Um, and I think that's kind of the move that, uh, it could end up being a thing where both teams kind of come out on top.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I think for long, for the long haul, I mean, the pelicans have set up nice.
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We have a very young young group of guys on the team already continuous add picks and that people with that.
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But like you said, a part of the trade was you bringing in Eric Bledsoe.
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I think that when I first thing I said I was like, Okay, well, Lonzo has to, you know, be extended soon.
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I believe in the next couple of months, So is have What are you hearing about Lonzo being extended? Because I'm I've heard a bunch of various different things.
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You never know what the truth is at this point, but first thing I thought was well, every blessed is gonna be traded, right? I think that the Clippers, they're very porn guard hungry.
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They've been asking for a porn guard.
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You know, they've been looking for one.
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I think that blessed so is returned to L.
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A. Could be something I could see.
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Yeah, there's There's a lot going on there.
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And I think the first big thing that you have to look at is first of all, Lonzo.
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Let's let's talk about Alonso's extension first.
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I don't necessarily think that Lonzo gets that extension, Uh, before the season starts.
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I do think he goes in as a restricted free agent.
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Um, that could change, but I just think that the, um the the value, uh, may not be there between what Lonzo thinks and what the Pels think or what any other team may think right now.
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And I think part of that becomes of the inconsistency that Alonso had last year.
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He had a very bad start, mostly because of Ah, a quad injury, I think are growing injury.
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Then he kind of grew into, um, his role and from basically right before Christmas, all the way till So the end of the until the season was stopped, I should say, um, he was he was playing very, very good basketball.
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Now that's the guy you're getting.
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I think you feel very good.
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Um, about about what you can have now, if it's, uh, the guy who played in the bubble, you don't feel very good about that guy.
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So I think you wait and see what's what's happening there, uh, to tie that in the blood.
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So Lonzo is now a rich Paul client.
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Bledsoe is rich.
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Paul client would clutch.
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And when you're both with clutch, if I'm rich, Paul, at least I'm thinking maybe I don't know if I wanna have blood.
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So in Lonzo, in the backcourt together, Where were Lonzo? Losing touch is, uh, Thio bled.
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I think I may want to get bled in a different situation on, Baby.
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I'm trying to get bled into a situation where we're gonna compete for, you know, titles.
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You know, sooner rather than later, which is again.
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And I don't think you're something you're gonna do here.
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George Hill.
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On the other hand, I think he could be a nice veteran presence.
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He's only on the contractor, I think 9.
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5 million this year, roughly around that.
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And then it's it's 10 something.
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I think it's 10 even actually, uh, tenets and change.
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But he's only got, like, 1.
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9 of that guaranteed.
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So because he's only got one point out of that guaranteed, um, you know, you can you can cut him easily after this year or move on from him, So t to me.
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I think that's kind of the the biggest thing.
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I don't know what you end up wanting for blood, so but he's the same age, if not a little bit older than Drew.
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Um you wanted guys, that we're gonna fit mawr on your timeline with Zion and B, I So to me that that kind of speaks to I would think mawr of, you know, trying to, you know, move blood.
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So for for at least a a younger asset or two, whether that's another pick or whether that's ah, you know, player who could play right away thing with me when you talked about them both being, uh, Rich Paul, clients or clients.
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I want to see what happens with Lonzo.
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If he doesn't get the get the extension, Could there be, you know, some type of a quote unquote beef per se with the pelicans and clutch for because, you know, they have a little, um they've had history recently with with Anthony Davis.
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So I would like to see what happens.
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I I've never met Rich Part, but I've heard you know, a lot about, um I know he's really good at what he does, but he's not going to let previous things bother him when it comes to dealing with his clients when they're trying to get extended.
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So I want to see if he doesn't get that offer what happens with not only clutch but also happened with the ball family.
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We know that LeVar can be very out spoken and he likes to talk.
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So I want to see what happens with both of those different guys.
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The good thing about uh, rich from everything I've heard is is he deals with each client as as one particular guy.
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He doesn't let previous issues kind of getting in the way.
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Um, it was kind of a tenuous situation when they were trying to trade Anthony Davis.
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They basically kind of made it very well known and very well, uh, picked out the one place that you were only going toe get him toe Los Angeles, and that's the only place he was gonna try to sign an extension.
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Um, that's what kind of you know, got Boston out of the deal last year.
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So But I think even if you're rich, you want Lonzo to come out and and show mawr of what he can do.
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You want him to be more of that guy? Like I said that he was for about a 2.
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5 months stretch, especially even shooting it really, really well um you want him to kind of do that and drive his value of because I think because of the bubble play his his value was pretty down.
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And I think it was maybe down across the league, and whether it's it's the pels, we're gonna end up paying and one or another team is gonna end up paying him.
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I think you want him to kind of go out there and show as much as he can right now, uh, on the floor.
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And I don't think you, you any past issues, they're gonna gonna gonna arise.
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But I think this is gonna be focused on him.
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And the good thing is, so far, LeVar is kind of I think now that he's achieved the goal of, you know, Lamela's about to be a top pick.
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Lonzo was number two there in the league.
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Jello is he's Angelo is Yeah, he's with the thunder.
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Whatever he's at right now, Lee Angelo is getting his spot.
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You know as well I think what you could do if you're, um Levar is kind of take, maybe take a step back and let the kids kind of do what they're doing.
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I think I maybe saw him three times last year, four times you.
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Therefore, I want the openers and then, uh, you know, very, very little after that.
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So I think you just kinda have to worry about Lonzo ball the player and not worry about lines.
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So, uh, the everything else, right? I think, you know, for Alonso, one thing is gonna play him well, going with this, you know, going forward, being extended is he has good chemistry with, you know, the big man on campus.
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I and they look to be, you know, they look to be a nice little 12 punch there, especially with Alonso's ability to throw the ball four quarters ion and they show to be good chemistry.
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That is something that Malanda was playing.
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Well, they were winning games.
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I am play, you know, a lot better when Lonzo was playing well.
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So I think that's something that I wouldn't say leverage.
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But that's something I think that would be considered when you have such a polarizing figure.
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Logs on and you need a point guard is gonna be able to help him get score Easy buckets.
00:19:03
Yeah, They have some amazing chemistry remember doing story back on that in March when they were e think there was.
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It's the first time since they've been tracking this since someone thinks 13 14 that they've had so many, you know, full court lob 60 70 ft lobs in a single season that their values that dunks not just like, oh, let me let me get it converted for a layup.
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Let me let me throw it down.
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They have great chemistry.
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Um, Zion has a spin move that he likes to do, especially with Lonzo, where he'll spin out of a post move and and and catch a lob that they were great at throwing.
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Um, the issue with Zo, you'd like to see him be able to get you in your half court sets a little bit.
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Mawr he is great in the in the open court.
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But you know, when you when you just have to get down and do, uh, you know that the half court, that's where I think things are, You know, when you look for maybe another lead guard, if you will There.
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But hey, does have a lot of chemistry with Zo.
00:20:01
I mean, with Zion and that is important, especially when you know, I know it's early, and I know he's almost guaranteed to time to sign that second deal.
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But you always want to keep your superstar happy.
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Um, even if you know that guy, he's only played 24 games so far, right next guys.
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Brandon Ingram.
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He also needs to be, uh, resigned soon.
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You know, the beginning of the year of middle of the year, there were some rumors about they weren't gonna resign him and all that.
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I think he gets, I think he gets the extension.
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Is the most improved player, the lead.
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The guy was averaging over 24 points a game.
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He played very, very well this season.
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He's an all Star for a reason.
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When do you think a deal like that could be could be done? I wouldn't expect something like that to take very long.
00:20:41
I think they're they're pretty much on the same page.
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The only thing you're gonna probably negotiate, I think at this point is is it, um, four year max to the five year max player option? Is that any sort of options on it whatsoever? I would expect that something that gets done rather quickly once once free agency starts, they very much of you.
00:21:06
Brandon Ingram.
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It's a building block of this franchise going forward, uh, along with Zion Williams and that this is not a it's not an either or deal.
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Um, this is something where both guys, uh, are are set to kind of be the these franchise cornerstones that can can kind of grow together.
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Right for sure, I definitely agree.
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So the draft is tomorrow.
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Pelicans have two first round picks.
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What? I've been told.
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I was talking to some of my draft guys.
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Someone work with Matt Bab****.
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They were saying that technology Tories, Halliburton, Killian, Hayes, Devin, Facile, Erin Nice Smith and R.
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J.
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Hampton were some guys that helicopters were looking at.
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I guess two of those guys for sure, are point guards and Halliburton and killing Hayes. Hampton.
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This kind of twitter probably making more than two, but only better, too.
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But, you know, I want to see.
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Also, I've been hearing something about Kyra Lewis and Desmond Bain as well.
00:22:01
So I think all the guys that I just named, maybe maybe nieces might not be, But the rest of those guys.
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They should be around with the pelicans pick.
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I think so.
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Maybe.
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Maybe not Halliburton as well.
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But you have any idea who the pelicans air trying to look at what they need to add to the roster? Yeah.
00:22:15
If they wanted Halliburton, they definitely have to go up and get him.
00:22:18
Killian Hayes is another guy who is is probably gonna be gone.
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But But could not Maybe, Um, what I'd like to see is there's also the possibility mentioned.
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Desmond Vein doesn't veins a guy.
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I like that.
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This process, um, you might be able to get him a 24 now, a pick that will be made officially be made by Milwaukee on then. Kind of go from there.
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But, um, there's the good thing is now you can do a lot of different things.
00:22:51
Like like I mentioned before.
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You could go if you wanna go. Best player available.
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Best player available.
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You could do that.
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If you wanna go draft your point, guard 13 and draft a drafting stash guy A 2020.
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For now, um, you could do that.
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I mean, there's you have options, and then you also have, you know, the 39th pick in the draft.
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Um, you've given away 60 so you you could do a lot of different things.
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Sadiq bays.
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Another name that I've heard, Um, and that could possibly be there at 13. Forum.
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If it may be vast, you know, slips, you know, he could be there.
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Hes like I could say it before it. Hey, slips.
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He could be there.
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So, um, a lot of it kind of is gonna depend on what happens above them, But I do think that they there's it's possible they want a guy they could go up and package 13 to 24 to go get him.
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But I think what you're gonna end up seeing is they'll kind of sit back, and I think maybe, just, you know, see how it's playing.
00:23:48
If if they could jump up toe to seven or eight and get a guy you know, using both picks or whatever, Go, go and do it.
00:23:55
And they kind of just go from there because what I've been hearing about kicking Hayes's, I've heard team his stock is starting to fall.
00:24:01
When you really look into some of the numbers and what he's been doing what he did overseas for own.
00:24:06
Let me turn the ball over.
00:24:07
25% of the possessions on condo was like, You know what, Killian? We know that NBA teams are interested.
00:24:13
We're gonna just let you do what you wanna do.
00:24:15
Go ahead and have fun.
00:24:16
Yeah, you're gonna turn the ball over a **** ton.
00:24:18
But you know that it is what it is.
00:24:20
They kind of use it as a longevity piece.
00:24:22
Well, if he gets drafted in the lottery, the next kid that comes of overseas, we're gonna use in the same way.
00:24:27
So it kind of was a, I guess a brand or a marketing thing.
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They just use going forward.
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But when you start to look at the numbers very left, I mean, he's a solid profit.
00:24:34
I'm not really harmless.
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Other guys, but super left handed doesn't really shoot the three that were, but he does have signs, but I just personally don't like when you turn the ball over 25% of your possessions number.
00:24:44
Overseas team would have let another guard do that.
00:24:46
Your turn About 25% of it.
00:24:47
Just in your ass.
00:24:48
That not playing that much.
00:24:50
Yeah, I think that was It was all like you said, though they were trying to, they were basically trying.
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Thio b the B the Hey, man.
00:24:59
Look, you come play for us.
00:25:00
Now you're let you come play for us.
00:25:02
We're gonna let you do whatever you want.
00:25:04
Um, uh, and you know, they're trying to get those guys they're trying to build them up.
00:25:11
Did not very, you know, didn't shoot it. Great.
00:25:16
I think he can be a good shooter.
00:25:17
Um, hey, did obviously have limited action.
00:25:20
I think everybody had limited action.
00:25:21
Uh, you know, because of all the all the cir***stances, But, you know, he e No, I know the ringer.
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I know criminal Connors earlier.
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High on him.
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E think he has him at one.
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A lot of other people have him late, You know, uh, late in the top 10, I've started to see him kind of slipped to 12.
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13 and some mock drafts, but I think that would be a great pick.
00:25:44
Um, because you can share duties with Lonzo if he can get you into two sets.
00:25:50
I look at those turnover numbers, and when I see the turnover numbers.
00:25:54
Um, I think a lot of those came in in, like, his first game in Euro cup, too.
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I think you're like, eight or eight turnovers in its first game.
00:26:02
So once you, you kind of get out of that.
00:26:05
I think it was you had a stretch where you're like 65 and six and euro cup last last fall.
00:26:11
So again, I think it's all, um it all kind of works out because they were They were doing it for a reason, basically on.
00:26:20
And I think when you're when you're doing it for a reason, it there's, you know, you're trying to get these other guys and I think that's kind of the thing that, um, kind of stands out to me is you can do different things.
00:26:34
And so, uh, kind of looking back at his at his other stuff.
00:26:37
Now I'm pulling up his stats.
00:26:39
Uh, 29.
00:26:40
4, I believe, from three in the early, all of yeah, that's in all competitions.
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Uh, in, uh, in ah, in play last year where he obviously played more than just euro cup.
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So that's I think, where to me, at least it's You know, I tell you what those turnovers really do. Stand out, though.
00:27:05
Yeah, that's what kills me.
00:27:07
But he still ended up.
00:27:08
He still ended up getting his turnovers.
00:27:09
I think down to like three a game overall across all competitions.
00:27:17
So he he is still a, I think, a good guy, a good prospect who was asked to just do a lot who won't be asked to do that as a rookie and continue to grow and prosper as a young kid.
00:27:30
The MBA to prospects for me, the interest with me, for them, for the pelicans.
00:27:34
One. Aaron Smith.
00:27:35
I think he's the best shooter in the draft.
00:27:36
You could argue with me with Desmond named, I think need Smith.
00:27:39
You look at his numbers from all five spots on the floor.
00:27:41
He's shooting over 50 from every store, like dribble handoffs all that.
00:27:45
Then we talked about the Halliburton.
00:27:47
I don't think he will.
00:27:48
Actually, I know he's not gonna follow, therefore, so they would probably trade up and get him.
00:27:52
But if they could pull it off.
00:27:54
Halliburton is a guy I found interesting because he's not really a ball handler.
00:27:59
He's more of a ball mover.
00:28:00
So that would definitely help Lonzo because he could get shot for Alonso, like, you know, catching shoot three.
00:28:05
Especially when he was shooting.
00:28:06
Well, Lonzo is making shots and also with Zion some pick and roll, You know, some pick and pop things with him and, like, JJ radios.
00:28:13
Find them open in the corner.
00:28:14
I think caliber will be a guy would be interesting.
00:28:16
I don't know how I'm able to get him because you're gonna be picking in heaven.
00:28:20
What? Yeah, that would be one.
00:28:22
If you're gonna have to go up to get Halliburton, I think you'd have the backcourt with the funkiest shot combination if you, Esso and Halliburton.
00:28:33
But we saw it.
00:28:34
Fred Vincent and one of the assistant coaches.
00:28:35
He did wonders helping out Lonzo with his shot last year, moving his shot, you know, from the left to the right.
00:28:40
And obviously, it took once in a while.
00:28:42
But it helps him kind of get to, uh, where he was shooting consistently 38 39 40% for for a big stretch of the season.
00:28:51
So there's coaches who could take care of the shot and get him right um, his his fit with Zo would would be would be an interesting one.
00:29:01
Um, he's if he's a guy again.
00:29:03
If you're looking to put somebody next to zero, you want somebody to get you into sets a little bit better.
00:29:08
Uh, can he do that? Yeah.
00:29:12
Can he? Can he, you know, be there as a defender? Yeah.
00:29:15
I just think it would take You have to move up.
00:29:18
But good thing is, you got a heck of a lot of picks to move up if you wanna go get him.
00:29:23
No, definitely, obviously, obviously.
00:29:25
No.
00:29:26
We're in the thick of ah, for agency.
00:29:27
Things started to happen.
00:29:28
What have you been hearing about the pelicans going to get certain guys? I've been I've heard, uh, Serge Ibaka was the guy that they were potentially interested.
00:29:34
Then we'll see if they can if they want to decide to go in recent Derek Favorite.
00:29:38
But what have you heard about applicants sounding anybody new? Yeah, the problem with the pills right now is they haven't made a lot of noise in terms of what they want to do.
00:29:48
Free agency, because they didn't know what the cap was gonna be every time I talk to somebody there like we don't know what's happening.
00:29:53
Um, you know, we found out everything from you guys, so I think that kind of kind of stopped it.
00:30:00
Um, maybe.
00:30:02
I mean, Derrick favors if you want to bring him back for the continuity part.
00:30:05
Maybe Maybe this time it just kind of let maybe sign on placing more five minutes.
00:30:09
Jackson takes place.
00:30:10
Um, or five minutes.
00:30:11
Maybe you look for a different option there, but they've really been quiet on that front.
00:30:15
I know.
00:30:16
I remember those odds that came out and it was like, you know, surge.
00:30:18
It was they were in the top for for Serge.
00:30:21
And they were in the top for Gallinari, and they were in the top for Joe Harris.
00:30:25
Somehow e was like, First of all, I wanna know where to get nods from, because I know the subway in government, the office.
00:30:33
So, um, the big thing to me is they're gonna They already have a lot of guys still under contract.
00:30:40
I mean, you still have, uh, you know, you still I mean, let's start now. You got blood.
00:30:46
So in in hill, you still got Lonzo.
00:30:49
JJ, Josh Heart.
00:30:51
You still gotta die on brand name.
00:30:52
You still got Jackson Nicolo Melli.
00:30:54
McKeel Alexander Walker.
00:30:55
Uh, that's 11 12 guys right there.
00:30:57
You're gonna add 1/13 pick.
00:30:58
You're gonna add a 24th pick.
00:31:00
You're gonna add a 39th pick.
00:31:01
And that's not resigning.
00:31:03
Derrick favors. It's not resigning each one more.
00:31:05
That's not resign.
00:31:06
Darius Miller is under contract to.
00:31:07
By the way, Um, that's not resounding Frank Jackson.
00:31:10
So you've got a lot of decisions to make.
00:31:13
That's why I think one of those picks, if not too, could be drafted.
00:31:15
Stash Guys have guys go play overseas because they do have a lot of roster decisions to make on again.
00:31:21
It's Zwick having, uh, you know, George Hill and Derek, I mean, and Eric, but so on the roster.
00:31:27
So, uh, if you could move those guys out in single deals, great.
00:31:31
If you're gonna aggregate them, put them together and try to deal them out.
00:31:34
That's gonna end up taking you into into December 8th into training camp.
00:31:38
So you maybe don't wanna waste that much time With only two weeks to prepare for the season so Um, but that's that's why David Griffin and Trajan Langdon and Swin Cash.
00:31:47
They all get paid a lot more money than I do.
00:31:48
They get paid to make those decisions, and I get paid to write about.
00:31:53
I think if you're talking about drafting stash guys, the guy that I would be interested to see if they could get him, they could get him at 24.
00:31:58
I think that was Leandro Bone Marrow, the guard from the FC Barcelona. That's one.
00:32:02
That's one of my I had my eye on, especially in 24 for sure.
00:32:05
He's, uh he just has a I love him.
00:32:08
He just has a unique swag about.
00:32:09
He kind of reminds me of a Manu Ginobili.
00:32:11
People are gonna do the comparison cause they're both Argentinean, but that's what he kind of reminds me of.
00:32:15
He has, like, a swag in, and there's no, you know, he already said, I don't think he's gonna come over right away.
00:32:19
So that's the guy you could just literally like.
00:32:21
You said, Drafting stash.
00:32:23
Yeah, he he was one I picked up, and I'm pretty sure, um, ESPN actually mocks him, too, to the pills in 24 today.
00:32:32
Um, just a big kind of combo guy who can do ah lot of different things because I don't think you're gonna be in the mix for poku.
00:32:41
Um, he's probably gonna go probably teens.
00:32:43
I think lately, you know, I think I think I've heard her Boston a lot for that because because the amount of picks that they have But you know, uh, Romero is he's a 67 guy.
00:32:53
He can play once, 23 If he stays, that's great.
00:32:58
He could work on his shooting.
00:33:00
Um, that works.
00:33:02
Another one you could say is take home Alauddin.
00:33:05
Another French guard who's who's in this draft.
00:33:08
He's the French guard who isn't killing Hayes.
00:33:10
Uh, eso uh, he's another guy who can play point play off the ball.
00:33:15
Those are the two that I think you can you can expect that would be a target for you because the Pels already have a drafting staff guy and De de Lozada, who they like right now D d.
00:33:29
Is a was their second round pick last year.
00:33:32
He's gonna play another year in Sydney with Sydney Kings, formerly with Will Weaver, who I thought could have been a nice candidate for the pills, um, for the head coaching job or the assistant coach's job.
00:33:43
So, um, you can excuse me.
00:33:46
You can Probably there.
00:33:49
There's some options there, if you wanna, you know, drafting stash guy.
00:33:52
I really do like bone marrow, though.
00:33:54
Yeah, I like in this world eso talking about.
00:33:56
You know, Pelican, they just got a new head coach s veejay.
00:33:59
Well, Steve Van Gundy, um, when I first seen, I thought that was kind of, um I wasn't I didn't know how I really felt about, you know, he hasn't coached in a while, but I was kind of looking at the piece that he's had.
00:34:08
You know, he's coached JJ Red****.
00:34:10
They have a tremendous chemistry coached JJ Red****.
00:34:12
But I think five or six years while he was with the Magic Zion isn't you know, Dwight Howard, but he is kind of polarizing in the sense of how he could be used.
00:34:21
So I want to see what if if Van Gundy can, you know, I guess he's not gonna be Dwight.
00:34:26
How he's understanding no dimes, a lot more skilled than he's more of a wing of anything than definitely the white is.
00:34:32
But he is polarized.
00:34:33
He's super athletic, and I feel he could do Dwight ish stuff.
00:34:36
Especially.
00:34:37
He's around the rim.
00:34:38
How did you What was your thought on their feet? Especially with the current team that they have now? I thought they were gonna go younger.
00:34:43
Um, maybe somebody who fit with the core a little bit mawr.
00:34:47
Um, but I don't I don't not like, you know, You think it's a very good higher.
00:34:52
Still, especially because of some of the assistant coach and moves that he made.
00:34:56
Um, I like them, you know, keeping Fred Benson.
00:34:59
I like them, uh, keeping teas****, uh, elevating her.
00:35:04
Teresa Weathers**** Thio an assistant coaching spot.
00:35:07
Um, you know, he his teams, even when he was in Detroit, you know, first you go back and look at his window.
00:35:15
Miami teams.
00:35:16
Those teams were excellent, uh, both winning over 60 63% of their games around there.
00:35:22
Uh, when he got to Detroit, it was it was more Stan Van Gundy.
00:35:25
The GM that kind of handicap.
00:35:26
Stan Van Gundy, the coach with Cem Cem moves that he made but 10 out of his 11 seasons that he finished as a head coach.
00:35:33
It was one year in Miami. He didn't finish.
00:35:35
Uh, he ended up, um, you know, with the top 10 or top 11 defense in 10 of those 11 years, Um, a top five or 61 I think four or five times.
00:35:46
And that's what this team needs.
00:35:48
And that's what Griff wants.
00:35:49
I mean, when Griff mentioned it last year in his opening press conference, was, I guess was now probably, uh, well before the season started.
00:35:57
So you mentioned like being first to 95 or first to 100.
00:36:01
They want defensive minded teams, and I think you saw defensive minded presence from Zion at Duke.
00:36:08
You need him to get back to that.
00:36:10
There's a lot of what you need him to get back to doing.
00:36:13
Um, everything kind of hinges on him, but offensively, I think you're going to see Brandon Ingram become more of a creator this year.
00:36:20
And I think you know, Griff is kind of already mentioned him as it is, possibly being a two guard. Attn.
00:36:26
One point, and I think he, with the ball in his hands could could could make some more stuff go a little bit And I think, uh, you know, they can.
00:36:34
They can unlock a different level of that.
00:36:36
But the biggest thing here is you needed Ah, Costa was gonna bring defense, and I think that's what Stan Van Gundy does.
00:36:44
I think one thing that he'll do, too, is he'll help these guys make sure that they are very young.
00:36:48
And I think that him, you know, he's got a bunch of places.
00:36:50
He's bad, you know, great success.
00:36:51
I think the young guys, you know, not necessarily look up to him.
00:36:54
But they'd be like, You know what this guy gets that he's had success in this league. He's coached a while.
00:36:58
He's been pretty much good everywhere he went.
00:36:59
And you have a young team.
00:37:00
I think that he will be able to help these guys mature.
00:37:03
Especially when you have a polarizing figure like Zion.
00:37:06
You're gonna want him toe not only mature, but, you know, on and off the court.
00:37:10
But you could just help him develop properly.
00:37:12
Yeah, and his his His growth is key.
00:37:17
I mean, that's the biggest thing here.
00:37:19
And but what? I think you need Thio think even if you're a Palestinian, if you're not a Palestine just watching this team, you just want to see growth this year.
00:37:26
I don't necessarily think growth means, um playoff berth, because you're obviously gonna be your in the stacked west.
00:37:34
Phoenix is obviously made news.
00:37:35
They didn't make it last year.
00:37:36
Um, okay, so he may not go anywhere.
00:37:39
Even though they got rid of Chris Paul warriors or back.
00:37:43
Who knows what happens with Houston right now? Uh, you still got the Spurs who didn't make it.
00:37:48
You still got the Kings who were trying to do some things, even the T Wolves.
00:37:52
They're gonna think that they're going to try to make the playoffs.
00:37:54
Yeah, so everybody in the West is pretty much gonna try to be to be fighting for it.
00:38:01
And if you just happen to, you know, take another year of growth and you finished 10th or ninth again, I think as long as you show growth this year and the next year is when you start to take this step, I think you're okay if you're a policeman, I think the Republicans there in a you know, a really good situation I know people are seeing it, but the Lakers that they're not a young, you know, they're not that mean that Anthony Davis is young, but collectively, they're not that young, LeBron.
00:38:25
I mean, who knows when LeBron gonna retired? He said.
00:38:26
There's every year, but big picture.
00:38:29
I retire until he gets to play one game with Ronnie.
00:38:31
Don't Brandi goes.
00:38:33
That's what I feel like it'll be.
00:38:34
It'll be around for three or four more seasons.
00:38:37
Eso big picture.
00:38:39
Let's say you have four more 3 to 4 more seasons by that point.
00:38:42
You know the Warriors.
00:38:43
They're old, you know.
00:38:44
Step will be 33 this year.
00:38:45
Clay's 30. I believed Raymond's in his 30.
00:38:47
They're not a young team anymore.
00:38:49
The Clippers three.
00:38:50
You know how they imploded last year? Who knows what they're gonna do in the next two years, specially with their free agents coming up.
00:38:55
So the pelicans, like you, said, I think Rose is the most important thing.
00:38:58
But they're in a unique spot where, like you said 234 years in the line, they could be the things could swap.
00:39:04
They could be the top team of of the way especially with so much young talent that they have and ask if they have to draft.
00:39:09
Yeah, and they have a guy named Zion Williamson.
00:39:12
Yeah, it was really good when he plays.
00:39:15
I I don't care what I saw in the bubble.
00:39:16
I saw him before.
00:39:17
He is really, really good at playing basketball.
00:39:20
And ah, you now have a chance to to grow that you have a chance to grow with him with Brandon Ingram, who was an All Star.
00:39:29
You have a chance Thio to continue to build what you could find out whether these young kids Jackson the keel.
00:39:35
Lonzo.
00:39:36
If those guys are gonna kind of answer the bell and start stepping up, what does Josh Hart do? He's probably sticking around.
00:39:42
You have the veteran leadership in JJ.
00:39:45
George Hill can kind of provide that as well.
00:39:47
Uh, even some of the other coaching moves you made you bring it, Corey Brewer, you bring, bring, bring, uh, Udrih.
00:39:53
You're bringing in guys who are legit, eh? NBA players.
00:39:57
So I think in the long run, you're gonna see a growth in this team.
00:40:01
And I think that's the key is you just have to continue to grow whether that's make the playoffs or not.
00:40:06
Obviously, you wanna make the playoffs.
00:40:07
That's what you you obviously want to do.
00:40:09
But, um, that's kind of think The biggest thing for me is to make sure that you continue to grow.
00:40:16
And if the defense improved, I think the record will is, well, I want to transition Talking about the big man. Big man.
00:40:23
Can we just talk about Amazon? You know, a lot of people have been talking about, you know, his frame, you know, should he lose away.
00:40:28
You know, this and that I don't know, for me is losing cause, you know, sometimes that just might be how he's built, You know what I mean? That might just Yeah, he's That's just, you know, and you just built big.
00:40:41
He's a he's a massive, super athletic, polarizing human being, and I think that's just kinda who he is and kind of how he's going to be now.
00:40:49
I think for me it made me kind of nervous is how explosive he is with his niece, kind of for me.
00:40:54
Every time he falls to the ground, I kinda cringe a little bit, grab something like, is he okay? Well, yeah, every time he falls.
00:41:02
But I guess my question is, what were they going to do? As far as they're just getting him, you know, in more shape, going forward, they're gonna, you know, maybe nutrition is, you know, dietitians getting like that or what needs to improve for him.
00:41:14
Maybe toe stay healthy and get him back into shape.
00:41:16
Long term, Zion is gonna ultimately have to make a a LeBron level of commitment to his body.
00:41:25
Um, where and where you know LeBron is.
00:41:29
You know, Maverick, I think, has mentioned it several times.
00:41:32
You know, LeBron puts a million dollars, um, or into keeping his body right.
00:41:36
And I think it's it's why he's able to be as effective as he is a 35 36 year old.
00:41:41
Um, Zions gonna have to do the same thing, uh, to get his body right there.
00:41:47
Okay. With him playing a to 85.
00:41:49
That's what he's done.
00:41:50
But I think they would like to see a leaner one.
00:41:52
I think they would like to see a guy who, uh, can get that explosive in this back.
00:41:57
I don't think he was ever, truly 100% last year because of the knee s.
00:42:03
So I think this off season has been has been key.
00:42:06
I know he's been working out with the Steptoe Adlai Anderson continuing to grow, continuing to work on his game, continuing to work on everything.
00:42:13
Um, but he's key on, and ultimately this team is going to go the way he goes.
00:42:19
Um, you know, one way or the other, is it possible for him? Not, I mean, one is a mental maturity.
00:42:26
Gonna just dedication from, like, you said, reach a LeBron level of, ah, commitment.
00:42:30
But is it possible one.
00:42:32
You know, one.
00:42:33
He's young, he's very young, the good food out there in New Orleans.
00:42:35
And is it possible for him to lean up or just tone up? Is that possible? I think it is.
00:42:43
I think he's got.
00:42:44
He's just got one of these unique body types where it's his body prototype is like the 1% of the 1% where his body is going to do things differently than than me and you were going to do.
00:42:58
I mean, it's just that's just how it is.
00:43:00
And I think that's part of the part of the process.
00:43:04
And, you know, uh, they obviously were as careful as they could be getting him back last year.
00:43:12
And I think in March he really waas I truly, I'll go back to this.
00:43:17
I truly do feel if I know there were five games out with 19 to play.
00:43:23
I really do feel that the pelts could have made the playoffs last year if nothing stops.
00:43:27
If in a covert free world, um, they would have continued on the easy schedule the two games against Memphis who they had already beaten twice.
00:43:36
I felt like they could have gone on in one and done some things, Um, in part because I in was getting into the best shape possible.
00:43:46
And I think that Waas the big thing there for me is that he was getting into the best, the best shape possible and then had a setback in the summer when you know, he he had to miss so much time in the bubble.
00:43:59
He only had a couple of practices here before he had to leave and then come back and he just wasn't himself.
00:44:04
And I think once he gets to that guy again.
00:44:07
You'll start to see him kind of take off and be the guy we expect it to be when they took him with the first overall pick for me.
00:44:14
I guess one thing that's interesting about design for me is you know, he's this guy.
00:44:19
We've already We've bins ionized, really since he's been that Duke.
00:44:22
But I like to call it.
00:44:23
He is just so polarized.
00:44:26
I mean, the guy, he's a young player 24 game, the guys on the cover of two K you know what I mean? It's like things like that.
00:44:32
But for me, it's just if he can stay healthy.
00:44:34
I think he's kind of not only physically in the talent that he has, but just socially.
00:44:39
He's kind of built to be the next big superstars like I mean, you look at the smile.
00:44:43
He has a big personality, is really you know, he's fun.
00:44:45
He's fun to watch on the corporate as a person, and I don't like, I'll tell you what.
00:44:51
He's just a big kid dude.
00:44:53
He really is like he's got the endor*****t deals.
00:44:56
He's got two K.
00:44:57
He's got, uh, Mercedes bands, mountain dude.
00:45:01
Uh, money like he's.
00:45:04
I'm gonna forget some because he's got so many at this point because of his personality.
00:45:09
And I think there's a reason why the Pels were the opener last year towards for Toronto.
00:45:16
There was a reason the pills were the opener for the bubble.
00:45:19
There's a reason the pills were on Christmas.
00:45:21
Guess what? It was Zion Williamson.
00:45:23
It's why I think again they're gonna be featured again because of Zion people, people watch him, people eyeballs air on him social and otherwise.
00:45:32
And, uh, it's a lot of pressure that have for a kid, it really is.
00:45:36
And him handling that is kind of part of his growth process.
00:45:42
Because for me, I think that you could see, like if he pops and I think he will, he stays healthy.
00:45:48
People are probably gonna disagreement.
00:45:49
I think he's gonna top of Yannis.
00:45:52
I'll do.
00:45:53
I think it's far.
00:45:54
I think he's gonna talk because Yang is.
00:45:55
The thing is, we've seen science and he's in high school.
00:45:57
We see them in color, you know, Johannes, Although he's fascinating that now you know, it s p another network. They put him on that noon.
00:46:03
Do you know what? During the bubble, they put, you know, Zions closing, closing.
00:46:06
You know, the night shift for the ESPN slate and Johannes.
00:46:09
Even though he's already two time MVP, they're showing him at noon.
00:46:13
You know, Yonas, he had busted guy.
00:46:15
We okay? Yeah, he had, but or whatever.
00:46:17
If he does that, that is the That is the opening midday and late night store.
00:46:22
If he does, it's just he's so polar.
00:46:23
I think that if he can pop and stay healthy, I think that he's gonna eventually just topple Johannes.
00:46:29
As popularity wise, I'll say this, Um, the potential is there for sure, and it's not.
00:46:38
It's not just media conjecture.
00:46:40
It's not just, you know, me and you and other guys saying this.
00:46:42
Like JJ Red**** has said it.
00:46:44
He's gone.
00:46:45
He says he's a first at all.
00:46:48
All team MBA M V P.
00:46:49
Lead a team to the championship caliber player if he reaches his potential.
00:46:53
The if is the key there, however a.
00:46:58
I think he has the want to to want to do it and the drive to want to do it, and the kid just wants to play ball like he just wants the hoop and when he gets out there, I mean, even if he was, let's say he was 90% last year.
00:47:13
I mean, he was doing a ridiculous things on the offensive end.
00:47:17
His defense obviously needed to come along.
00:47:20
I think that was That was the biggest key.
00:47:22
Was his defense needed to come along? What kind of the biggest shock? I think.
00:47:25
But he's had an offseason work now in a year under his belt.
00:47:29
So that's that's where I think you'll see the most growth and, you know, down the line.
00:47:33
I do think he has the potential toe to be the best player in the NBA, but, uh, you know, that's that's gonna be, you know, him staying healthy, him taking care of his body and, uh, for for him to reach that.
00:47:44
Like you said, 90% of their was games.
00:47:46
You know, he was he was the best player on the floor, like, you know, for several for for several games.
00:47:49
Stretch.
00:47:50
He was, you know, there was nothing.
00:47:51
You couldn't move him.
00:47:52
He couldn't do anything with him, especially got to the elbow when there was a game.
00:47:55
I think it was O K C. Game.
00:47:57
I remember where he you know, You think Steven Adams is this big, burly, hulking guy, remember? He you know Steven Adams bump, you know, 56 ft back off him.
00:48:05
I remember in the preseason this was a game that I was like, All right, he's going to do something this year.
00:48:12
Not that I didn't think he was gonna be special, but he went through Rudy Gobert's chest twice.
00:48:18
Mm. In a preseason game.
00:48:20
And once he went right over him and scored and another one Rudy met him went vertical, and Zion missed the shot.
00:48:29
And by the time Rudy's feet were hitting the ground, Zion was already dunking it.
00:48:32
Uh, Duncan, the offensive rebound back those That was the game where I was like All right, this kid is different on.
00:48:39
And even when he wasn't with the limited practice time as he waas, he was still averaging 23 6, pushing dudes out the way.
00:48:50
I mean, he was getting better game.
00:48:51
The game that he was just getting better.
00:48:53
Yeah, because he's getting more comfortable.
00:48:55
He was getting what he was.
00:48:56
He was. He was He was getting stamina back.
00:48:58
He was doing all that. And I think that's what you're going to see.
00:49:00
Uh, for him right now, Yeah, I got, like, two more things.
00:49:03
I'm not going to get you out of here.
00:49:04
But what stood out to me with them last year? Just how we saw this at Duke, but how he gets on and off the ground so quickly.
00:49:10
You know, I was I was telling people when they got rather like, Well, he can't play on the wing.
00:49:13
This and I was like, There's more.
00:49:15
There's multiple ways to score about.
00:49:16
It's not all about shooting threes and playing how James Harden does.
00:49:19
I said, he's gonna He's gonna get 8 to 12 points a game, just strictly off of hustling.
00:49:23
He's gonna someone's gonna message.
00:49:24
He's gonna get them on his hip, bully them, lay it up.
00:49:27
He's gonna do that 8 to 10 points a game minimum.
00:49:29
We haven't even gotten to him to spend move.
00:49:31
He loves to do the jump stopping the lob.
00:49:33
We haven't even gotten to that.
00:49:34
Yes, he's gonna score 10 12 points a game minimum, just strictly hustling his the biggest thing for me so far in his game has been the second jump.
00:49:43
His second jump on the offensive rebound end is ridiculous.
00:49:48
There was a stretch where for when you adjust it for minutes, I think Onley only under German maybe had a better offensive rebounding percentage.
00:49:56
I don't know where he actually where you ended up finishing, but he was.
00:50:01
He was insane on that side, insane with his second job.
00:50:04
He is getting off the floor before your landing.
00:50:06
Um, and that's just his anticipation.
00:50:10
That's his, Um, that's his way of just getting to the ball.
00:50:14
And I think his smarts on that end, his ability to read the rim is, is what's gonna what's gonna carry him now if he can apply that to the defense event.
00:50:24
He was not very good on the defensive glass last year.
00:50:28
Um, if he can apply that, then that's gonna go a long way, and I think that's the biggest part of his game.
00:50:34
He's going to be a 28 to 30 point scorer, you know, at his peak.
00:50:38
If not if not more, Uh, if not more.
00:50:42
And I think, ah, you know, he could eventually get the 10 to 12 rebounds a game and do that concept.
00:50:49
But, you know, you go back and look at his numbers.
00:50:52
Last year he was averaging, you know, 2.
00:50:53
7 offensive rebounds and 3.
00:50:55
6 defensive rebounds.
00:50:56
When you break that down by percentage, you know his offensive rebounding rate.
00:51:01
I think it took a hit in the bubble, but because I remember at one point his offensive rebounding percentage was better than his defensive rebounding percentage.
00:51:07
Eso He's got a ways to go there, but he's just so so good on the offensive end right now.
00:51:14
In the last guy I was talking about, two was killed.
00:51:16
Alexander Walker.
00:51:17
He was my when he when he was going out of high school.
00:51:21
He was probably my favorite out of that class.
00:51:23
When he got drafted, he was definitely a guy was very high on.
00:51:26
I still really like him now.
00:51:27
I think he has a bunch of town.
00:51:28
I think he kind of has to know how the package it all together in the game.
00:51:31
The game was slowed down for me.
00:51:32
Still, he's a kid in his league.
00:51:34
What are their hopes for him, you know, going forward.
00:51:37
Yeah, obviously they want him Thio be the kind of guy who could be a lead guard who could, you know, possibly end up being a starter or maybe be the guy next to, um next to Alonso or maybe take over? I don't know, but they see him as a guy who could be a long term guy.
00:51:52
I think the problem with the keel last year was he pushed it too early.
00:51:58
Um, and then it was kind of funny.
00:52:02
I think he he gets sent down to the G league, breaks his wrist in the G league, uh, and then play and shoots with his other hand for two games because he was like, Well, I'm down here. I'm gonna get minutes.
00:52:15
So there was a lot if you go back and look at those those that last game of the bubble, I know it.
00:52:23
It was basically Ah, it was essentially a pre season game.
00:52:27
Okay, but But you saw the potential there.
00:52:30
29.7 assists.
00:52:32
I had six turnovers, but hey was able to get to the line.
00:52:36
He was shot five free throws, his 11 of 18 from the field.
00:52:39
Uh, That's the kind of guy that they think he can be.
00:52:43
At times throughout the year, he pressed a little bit.
00:52:46
He pushed it.
00:52:47
Yeah, his finishing was not there.
00:52:50
He shot under 40% on two point field goals.
00:52:53
Um, he has a lot of talent.
00:52:57
I think he just pressed too much early.
00:53:00
Um, but he is a guy who I mean, they took him for a reason.
00:53:03
They targeted him along with Jackson Hayes, to be guys to come in with Zion.
00:53:08
And those three have a good bond.
00:53:11
Uh, Nick Eel is is a guy, though, who still needs to grow.
00:53:15
And I think he flashed that potential.
00:53:18
Um, he flashed that potential during during summer league, and everybody kind of got excited on.
00:53:26
Then we and then you gotta have the drug back a little bit.
00:53:28
But he's a guy who I think can continue on, um, he and still do some some some good things.
00:53:36
Yeah.
00:53:37
I mean, some of the heat popping. I was watching that game in love again school.
00:53:39
He was just He was going in the same remember, everything he was doing was just phenomenal.
00:53:45
And yeah, he was.
00:53:48
He's super topping.
00:53:49
I think the game will eventually it'll slow down.
00:53:51
So I think he just cause to find a home run play alive, which I mean, a lot of young guards like to do that, especially with his skill set.
00:53:56
But I think that he will be fine going for especially, I think, you know, maybe George Hill can help mentor him.
00:54:01
Not only him and Alonso, but they will help him calm down.
00:54:04
Someone tell you what Nikki Nikki feel like is like a baby bird to JJ Red**** like Nikkila.
00:54:09
Did you write like he? That's I mean, it's a good guy to get your habits from is, uh, if you're if you're a young player.
00:54:17
Yeah, sure.
00:54:18
Well, I want to thank you for coming on my podcast today.
00:54:20
I know you're gonna have a really, really busy next couple of 8%.
00:54:24
78 days.
00:54:25
So you have fun with yes, draft free agency, starting trying to figure out that, then getting a camp on December 1st? Um, you know, maybe I guess I'll take a break for Thanksgiving.
00:54:37
Yeah, maybe so. Yeah.
00:54:38
You have fun playing two k and thank you for coming on my show today Going right back to it right now, baby.
00:54:42
Gotta get in there.
00:54:43
Well, I can fax right high, bro.
00:54:46
Alright, man. Thank you.
00:54:48
Problem? Yeah.
00:54:58
Alright, man, I appreciate it.

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