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00:00:05
and welcome back officially to SportsCastr News N b A on a Monday morning.
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I'm not gonna get that wrong two weeks in a row.
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I'm Adam, are back.
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Has always joined by the state aesthetically just all tied together here Keith McPherson in the morning Rocket.
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Oh, and rocking the talking. Next.
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Schrag there.
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I like that.
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That's a nice looking Yeah, Big week for the MBA for talking.
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That's I think we're gonna dio two, maybe three episodes this week, and it's time.
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It's a glorious time.
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MBA Fall aka MBA Summer.
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It's full on rumor mill season.
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That's right, man.
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We come in basically on, I guess, what's like the biggest storyline right now that the Rockets are exploring all options in terms of what they're gonna do with Westbrook and what they're gonna do with Harden on how that break is gonna go ties into Brooklyn as the I don't know who was driving the rumors could be hard himself, driving the rumors of hardened to the Brooklyn That's that's out there.
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Obviously we could touch on that, but there's a lot of other things in the last 24 hours that have started to unfold including, Ah, smaller.
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At least predicted move here when the moratorium is gonna get lifted at noon today.
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So if you think you've been hearing speculation a lot over the last 24 to 72 hours, wait until noon when all of the things that couldn't have possibly been getting discussed, all the deals that could not have been getting lined up will start popping off like dominoes.
00:01:27
What? What? Some of the more exciting ones that you're hearing right now.
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I mean, I'm just I'm impressed by the Lakers.
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The rich only get richer.
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Um, they're not done.
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I think I said that to you in our slack message before, like, they have potentially like, Well, Danny Green, obviously the Schroeder incoming.
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But then Avery Bradley is not picking up his option, I believe.
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And then Rondo might be heading out and Koosman might be heading out.
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And Danny Green.
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So I'm like, OK, the Lakers are trying to repeat.
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The Lakers are not sitting on their championship and saying, Hey, we did it in the bubble with the team has constructed.
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No, they're saying, How can we get better? And I think they're looking to get better because there's no way LeBron is showing up the week of Christmas windmill dunking.
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And I just think they're going to slowly bring LeBron back and bring LeBron into his 18 season.
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Um, and they're gonna build a team around him.
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The Schroeder move is huge.
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I know that they're friendly.
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LeBron and Schroeder video was circulating a LeBron, giving him a hug while someone was shooting uh, free throws.
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I think that's a guy that that can come in and and facilitate their offense and, you know, get the ball rolling without LeBron on the court.
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And, uh, you know, he's an upgrade over Rondo or whoever else they might have had a point guard.
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So yeah, the Lakers I'm looking at.
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And then it's just like I said, it's full on rumor mill time.
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Obviously, we're both Nets fans and we're in the Nets Twitter sphere, and it goes from Serge Ibaka.
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And that's one level of rumors to now James Harden over the weekend, and even into that into today, people are still running with it, and I mean, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but it's it's fun as the next fan It's just fun to be in the center of it.
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And then we get the news today of, uh, you know, a deal happening around like 8:38 a.m.
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with 1000 Moussa and Bruce Brown and, UH, 2021 2nd round pick from the Raptors.
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Here you go.
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You can have that, and it's like, Hey, the Nets were making moves.
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The Nets are doing something, and I know it's a small move.
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Most people in the N B A landscape might not know Moussa before us, Nets fans were like, Oh, great.
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Like we could get something more than a bag of chips for Moussa.
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That's not doing that.
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We're onto 2020 2021.
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Yeah, that's the best part for me because when you talk about like some young players, especially the Brooklyn side of things, when you say, you know rhodium schoolbooks, we keep giving these sample sizes, wondering what he's gonna be.
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He's at least been on the court for us like Louisa hasn't yes, and sniffs significant important minutes for this roster.
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Yeah, the entire bubble.
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You thought it any time you see you say, Well, bubble.
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Just give most of the run like, let's just see what he's made of.
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And then it's like, That's all right.
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I don't know we're good on.
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That s Oh, yeah, and that they turned out and flip him and listen.
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He's still a young player he could develop, But the positions there, you know, it really gives them stability.
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This roster, that's incredible.
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I'm gonna be a low key move that will fall underneath all these other big names.
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But that's the Nets, I think stabilizing whether intentions are here around this roster and knowing that you have guarantees backing up these stars regards of whether not you bring it, Harden.
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What's it gonna look like when you need to go to the bench? It also feels maybe mildly indicative of a move impending, possibly because you're supplementing a position where you could have some other outgoing talent that has been mawr important to what's been happening there.
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So that will be interesting to watch for.
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I want to get the entree.
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Dude, this is Yeah, this is the entree.
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This is the start, of course.
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And you know something else I saw was that this frees up.
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I think $400,000 in cap space for the nets.
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Probably gonna need that.
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If we have moves that they're gonna come, some main courses that are gonna come.
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And, um, what else did they say about he moves? Award number 13.
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And there's a guy we're looking for out there that wears number 13.
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They went to him, They went to Moussa and they said, Are you willing to change your number? He's I couldn't possible.
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I couldn't possibly give it on high school number.
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I'm never giving it up.
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It's like, Okay, we'll get back to you on that one.
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End of the day.
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It's me or hard, You guys shoes.
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He wasn't right back across the table to them.
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So he's always He's always brilliant with confidence.
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You can't knock the guy for for being proud of his game.
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Um, but you talked about the Lakers there for a second.
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It's interesting to think about one.
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The role that Schroeder could play for them because what he showcased in O. K.
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C.
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Was, you know where I'm best Living is being the sixth man being the guy off the bench with that second, you know, I can thrive there, so I hope that that's what they're trying to mold him into and create there in l.
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A.
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And not looking to maybe thrusting back into a starting role where I listen, by the way, you're gonna benefit Playing alongside Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
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So you're starting minutes.
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Could look a lot different on that roster, but I really like them.
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Bring him in there and to your point.
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You come out, you get that championship.
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You know, there's a lot of moving pieces here.
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The White House hours of javale McGee is just all these guys.
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You know, when you look over that roster, you go behind LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
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This was patchwork in a lot of ways to win this championship.
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So and if you thought for a second that genie Boston Polanco, we're gonna sit there and go, Yeah, we made it happen.
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Let's just see how this next year goes. No, no, no, no.
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You know, you mentioned too.
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How are we gonna have nice traction coming out of the gate starting December 22nd? How are we not gonna put strain on LeBron James and his legs and then get the extra Russia when the season starts.
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And then how are we going to be even more confident going into the playoffs this year that we really can go on this run and maybe not be dependent on? Even though you could say they would have beaten the Clippers at their highest powers, the Clippers kind of broke themselves down inside the bubble.
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Like they, they dismantled their own opportunity there.
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So there was a different path and arguably maybe an easier path for the Lakers and the bubble than they anticipated initially.
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So I think that was really almost the, you know, a Miles wake up call of Hey, let's really look at this roster and understand.
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We want to repeat.
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We need to tweak something so e don't want.
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So I'm excited to see a dominant team get more dominant, but I want to see the best teams, the height of their powers, like really reloading and saying, Let's do this thing again.
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It's gonna be so fun to watch is gonna be so exciting so fast.
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The shortest offseason ever.
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71 days from you know Game six of the finals toe the scheduled tip off December 22nd and you know Jeannie Buss, Rob Pelinka, LeBron James.
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They've been doing this too long.
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They're not gonna arrest.
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They're not going to sit back and say, Oh, we wanted were good.
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No, because traditionally, you win a championship, you lose players.
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Traditionally, you know, guys go and get their money elsewhere after winning a ring.
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And yet we know LeBron is locked in an A d is going to stay as well, but they got to build around them and they're they're not wasting any time.
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You bring intruder runner up to the sixth Man of the Year award this past year.
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Make it.
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He wins it next year with the Lakers as the sixth man coming off the bench, depending on how their roster fills out.
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And, uh, I just love it.
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Like I say, I just keep referring to right now is the MBA fall? It's probably the only MBA fall whoever get, but it's akin to the MBA summer where we usually see the complexion of the MBA changing like this.
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I mean different players going to different places from, you know, the high level superstars of James Harden to someone that's, you know, a tear under with Dennis Schroder.
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So there's a lot more to be seen in this week.
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And like you said at 12 PM when you know when that all goes and then the draft this week, there's gonna be moves in.
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I'm excited just to see how the MBA reshuffles and if the teams that were expecting to be the top teams and contenders get stronger or if they don't really do too much.
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So yeah, I would be curious to around the draft piece of it, because so say, Brooklyn makes a big move.
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Hey, I need these teams when you bring in some big players.
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Obviously, maybe some draft picks are gonna exchange hands a lot of times.
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Just talked about future picks because they, you know, especially in this year's draft class, they're saying, Well, why don't you give it to me two years down the road so I could see how that that class opens up.
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But what becomes exciting and interesting about it, too, though, is any of these teams these trades occur with now they get so exiting talent.
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Now you're getting all this draft capital, so you don't know what even some of these relatively dismantle teams could end up looking like with a bunch of young players.
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So the Houston Rockets like I'll make a case that at least they're gonna be interesting this year.
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Like if they if they jettison Westbrook and they jettison Harden.
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But And let's say it's a trade with the Nets, where you're getting back Caris, Levert, Spencer Dinwiddie and maybe a Jared Allen.
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And then they also get some draft picks as well.
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Like if they're gonna be a weird, young, exciting, interesting team in a way that they haven't been in a decade since hardens.
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Been there, you could look at Houston if you want.
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You can also take a look at Detroit, and we talked about before we started here.
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What does this mean for a Derrick Rose? What teams around the league now look at him and say, Hey, if they're looking to start selling off parts here, we may be able to add a high caliber player.
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Wouldn't even think was gonna be in the trade landscape.
00:10:24
What does that look like for you, Blake Blake Griffin piece of that in Detroit? And how will some teams like, say, the Miami Heat who were rumored to maybe wanna be involved in these discussions around Harden.
00:10:34
Where could they end up pivoting, right? How could they end up jumping on some other players if they don't get their first piece? Yeah, I look at I look at it like you know, a few different ways with these.
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Seems like starting off with the Rockets.
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Westbrook is out of there.
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Harden most likely will be out of there.
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There's a lot of rumblings about Daniel House, and we heard about him get in trouble in the bubble, but he didn't like the way he was being used.
00:10:59
Austin Rivers wants to see what else is out there.
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Um, P.
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J.
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Tucker said that he felt like he wasn't getting paid what he deserved, because this guy turned into a center for them and played the, like, uh, $88 million click, right? Like there.
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So they have a few guys there that aren't happy, aren't satisfied.
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And then when you move a Daryl Morey, you know, like it's just the franchise moving into a new era.
00:11:27
So if you're gonna move into a new era, you couldn't get it done with Hardened, Hardened had some of his best years in the last four years, and they couldn't get to the finals.
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Um, so I don't think it's gonna take anything, you know, like obviously they had a different team with Clint Capela.
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They moved on from there.
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You know, I think they might as well break it down.
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And then when we talk about the Pistons, they started breaking it down last year when they got rid of Drummond.
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I'm like Drummond is the best player on their team, by far like and one of the best players in the N B A.
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They sent him to Cleveland, and then you mentioned Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin.
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We like those guys.
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They're probably gonna end up somewhere.
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And then we already see the move with, you know, a guy that's not as high profile in Ah, Bruce Brown today with the Nets.
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It's shuffling time, and I can't wait to see some of these teams with draft capital.
00:12:14
Uh, you know what? Like what they're actually trying to do, because this is the strangest draft we've ever seen.
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It's it's happening one in, uh, in November versus it happening in June.
00:12:24
I'm trying to see Where do the Pistons pick? Well, that's a good look to get onto us.
00:12:28
Well, yeah, because they have the seventh pick, right? And they have another interest, Another tantalizing asset that you could still get value out of if you're one of these teams.
00:12:37
So it's like these organizations might be thinking, Hey, this is a opportunity to turn our franchise for the next decade.
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You know, we had it rough in Detroit the last couple of years.
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We got to do what we gotta do to make sure we get the young talent and the draft capital and the value and and, like, execute this draft and this year, the best way we can.
00:13:00
We're not winning it with Derrick Rose.
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We're not winning it with Blake Griffin guys that were MBA superstars but are slightly past their prime.
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Let's blow this thing up.
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Let's get the young talent in here.
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Let's develop this talent for the next, you know, 10 years of the 20 twenties.
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting to because Houston, who doesn't have first round picks in this draft, right, So in terms of resetting it, when you look at the landscape and you say OK, even if we ran it back.
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Are we going to challenge the Lakers? The Clippers? The up and coming? You know Dallas Mavericks, like we're falling down the hierarchy of the West.
00:13:31
So even though you hate the idea of rebooting rebuilding franchise like if you look at and you say, well, how far are we really going to go with this with what we currently have? If we're the best of five seed in the West and maybe making it out of the first round of getting bounced the second of the playoffs, why not take a couple of years where somebody else is bound to be better than us? Here, let's take these couple of years to reboot it and get back those assets.
00:13:53
The other thing is interesting.
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Just in general, around the MBA, some of these guys.
00:13:56
So I just saw pop up that the Bulls auto porter he opted into his $28.
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6 million option and which is interesting about that is like, Well, you're crippling your clippers in that franchise, you know, in a difficult fighting.
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Yeah, Yeah, like no, Otto.
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I was thinking, Oh, man, like you deserve so much better than what we could do for you here.
00:14:17
But that's the hard part about the finances of these next couple of years.
00:14:21
We know about all the adjustment of the league made in the new agreements and how they can push off some of the money in escrow for players.
00:14:28
But when a guy offs into a nearly $30 million clip for a franchise, that's thinking, Hey, we have some young talent.
00:14:35
If we have some flexibility under the cat, we can try to target a couple of guys Now.
00:14:39
All of a sudden, Bulls are gonna have to probably go into A unless they're excited about that project, which I can't imagine they are at that number now.
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They got to go into Well, how do we flip this asset? How do we get Otto Porter off our team to a team that's looking to win now? Who can take on that type of money and what can we get back in return? Otto Porter is hilarious UH, $28.
00:14:58
4 million option, and I think you know, is one of the type of things, like a kind of similar to baseball, right now, like you know, there's the qualifying off for in base.
00:15:09
Yeah, and, like Marcus Stroman and Kevin Gausman accepted their qualifying offer.
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But guys like Trevor Bauer, J T Realmuto, D J LeMay you on the Yankees know where they're going to accept that qualifying offer for 18.
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9 million.
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They're going to test the market.
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But I feel like in this weird year, some guys aren't gonna test the market like an auto corner Otto Porter and saying, Hey, 28.
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4 million Don't sound too bad.
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I don't care how many games we win.
00:15:40
Let me get that bag.
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And then now it's back to the Bulls to say, Do we wanna pay him that when we're trying to figure out who we have here? Uh, there's rumors that they might take Lemelle. Oh, ball.
00:15:52
There's rumors that you know what I'm saying.
00:15:53
Like there's there's a lot that's gonna play out this week with the draft and where these players are going to go on what these players decided to do.
00:16:00
And that's what makes this fun on what makes it like even more fun is.
00:16:03
Usually we would have this in June, July and then have to wait till November for the season to start.
00:16:11
No, we're having this in a matter of, like, four or five weeks like this stuff happens.
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And then we're gonna hit the court like we hit the draft free agency, hit the court and training camps open on December 1st.
00:16:24
Like these guys got to get ready.
00:16:26
Like this whole thing is happening fast.
00:16:28
The last episode I did a talking Mets was just called.
00:16:30
It's happening fast, Like my head is spinning from everything that's going on right now.
00:16:34
What are the chances? What percentage of n BA players show up to the wrong training camp? Because they just flat out don't even know where they're supposed to be in.
00:16:41
Like he's gotta be booking flights toe.
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Orlando was supposed to write.
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I was supposed to.
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I think I'm in the right spot.
00:16:48
Guys, I don't know.
00:16:49
It's first day of high school here.
00:16:50
I'm not sure where my home room is.
00:16:51
Um, like the Knicks.
00:16:53
Right? So the Knicks had to shut down their training facility for Cove It There's gonna be guys like there's a whole another level of complications when these guys show up and they got to get tested for Cove in and the staff members show up.
00:17:04
We don't know what these people have been, what they're doing, so it's like we want to start fast.
00:17:09
But there's this little pandemic going on that might coming in The way of that might get in the way of that.
00:17:16
There's that 10 day period where you gotta wait to clear before again like we're in the middle of November.
00:17:21
You only got like, 36 hours before you need to be on your flight, showing up someplace, getting tested in clearing all those programs.
00:17:27
You're right.
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So I mean, that's such a footnote kind of factor.
00:17:30
And it's not a footnote.
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It's actually really important.
00:17:33
But it's so it's gonna be so interesting again.
00:17:35
12 PM today it hits, and it's gonna be like deal, deal, deal.
00:17:38
People are on flights.
00:17:39
Everyone's moving because we need to prepare for this and depending on what type of team you are, it's important, like the Lakers were like, All right, don't worry about it.
00:17:46
Will take the first month.
00:17:47
We'll figure this stuff out as we go, but other teams are gonna be looking to hit the ground running here like there's opportunities for some teams to take a big jump in that first month of the season.
00:17:55
If you establish yourself well and you get out to a big run and maybe play the Lakers when LeBron James and Anthony Davis aren't even on the court now, all of a sudden you could bank some of those winds early in the season.
00:18:06
When you know later on down the road, it's going to get a little bit more difficult.
00:18:09
Um, you know, Ah, a couple of the other ones that are getting thrown out there to you got Kelly Olynyk opting into a little bit over 13 million there, down in Miami, they had Iguodala brought in.
00:18:17
So those two players alone represent 30 million of their cap.
00:18:21
Becomes interesting about how they're financially gonna handle that situation as well.
00:18:25
They're one of the teams that, at least at some point, was getting rumored to be a part of what could happen.
00:18:31
Uh, James Harden, and where some of these players could go then you also have Rondo as we know.
00:18:35
He opts out of that $2.
00:18:36
6 million option.
00:18:38
You got clippers and Hawks possibly being interested in him.
00:18:41
Where is he gonna land? Um, what do you Is there a team that loses out on this whole operation? Is there a team that really takes Ah, beating from the quick restart, The different types of cap structure, You know where they're gonna be financially, all those things.
00:18:58
Is there a team that just kind of get stuck here on the outside looking in? Or maybe has to make a move? You know, I talked with one of the guys from locked on mixed the other day around that I think I said, What if Russell Westbrook comes to New York and they were like, Jesus, I mean, does he instantly make you better? You know, better in the short term, Yes, right.
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And they're like, but also then everyone learns how to play muscle Westbrook basketball.
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They don't learn how to play.
00:19:20
New York Knick basketball is that one of the season falls in a bad vote.
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They can't do that because in the first year, Tom Thibodeau, you have ah, ball dominant force.
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Uh, like Russ know it can't, because if he's coming in, they're trying to establish his culture and the way that you know, he wants these guys to play.
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You put a superstar like Russell Westbrook in there, and that's gonna immediately change everything.
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Uh, you said, what team? Well, we're speaking on the Knicks.
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The Knicks find a way to lose, no matter what they find.
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A find a way, the meth to mess things up.
00:19:49
I feel like it's gonna be tough to tell.
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You know, the winners or losers.
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I think there'll be somewhere out here hoops, hype or hoops Central.
00:19:57
Someone will probably give a grade for what these teams do with free agency, the draft, and this week, because it's hard to tell right now.
00:20:05
Like obviously, you know, it looks like the Nets are winning.
00:20:08
The Nets get rid of Ah, player.
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They throw a second round 2021 pick from the Raptors and a player that fits nowhere into their plans.
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To get a guy that can immediately come in and make an impact like that's a win for the Nets.
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But like none of us saw that coming.
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We don't know what some of these teams are gonna do.
00:20:25
I I look at teams that we have we've looked at as the powers, right? Like the Bucks, right? The bucks have been considered one of the top teams in the East with the honest the M v P.
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Okay, you guys got bounced.
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You didn't make it to the Eastern Conference finals.
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And also now, with this opportunity to get better and build around Yanis, what have you done or what are you going to do? So it's like there's more of a microscope on these teams that have been upper echelon.
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The Celtics.
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What are you guys going to do to improve? Is boarding Hayward out of their like, Are you guys gonna like what? Like, what are the top teams in the East and even in the West? Right.
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The warriors air healthy.
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Now they are considered one of the top teams went healthy.
00:21:07
But what are you gonna do with this draft pick? What you gonna do with some of the free agents out there? And what you gonna do to make sure that your team is competitive again in the west, that is stacked.
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And there's always did emerging.
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We saw.
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Okay, See, come out of nowhere.
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Last year, no one was X affecting.
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Okay, See to do what they did with Chris Paul with Shea Guilders.
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Alexander.
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And they did.
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So it's hard to say right now what teams do, I think you know, benefit the most or what teams do.
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I think you know well, like struggle from this, Um, it's yet to be seen, and we'll see it real soon.
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This week it is It is crazy.
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It is history.
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Um, like I said even to about the coronavirus like and the pandemic like, we're all running really fast to get to our spots and learn about what's going on and get prepared, and then the pandemic is gonna come in and say, Pump your brakes.
00:21:57
You know, there's some cases in, uh, what's a hot spot? I mean, obviously New York, Look at the Knicks.
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You know there's some cases that are going to slow down the Knicks from training, practicing, preparing and getting ready.
00:22:08
Even their front office is being able to meet like that, affect them, that that's tough.
00:22:13
Everyone's doing stuff on Zoom, but this is a rare occasion.
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Some teams, they're gonna get better.
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Like I said, the rich get richer.
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The Lakers have already got better.
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Some teams just gonna stay where they're at.
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Some teams you're just gonna forget about like, Oh, the Kings.
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What is the king? Nothing.
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The King's just stayed put with the guys that they got.
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They're just gonna be bottom feeders.
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But I think the top teams where where we really gotta be looking at what the Clippers gonna do? The Clippers didn't get all the way to where they were expecting after the huge summer they had last year.
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What are you going to do to improve what you gonna do to change your fate going in the next year? It's all in front of you right now.
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Well, that's you know, and you're you're right.
00:22:51
The is the perfect point because established teams that came up short this past year And when you say the bucks like that's the big ones, that may, especially if if something like this happens in Brooklyn, then you're like, Well, that team is obviously cattle.
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They're already gonna be up there just alone with Katie and Kyrie.
00:23:06
Now, all of a sudden, there into that mix of the best team in the in the east, Not the second you know whatever.
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They're gonna be vying for a conference championship, obviously looking to go to the finals, the Miami Heat.
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Maybe say, Well, we can stand pat on what we did last year.
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So maybe thought is important for us in this off season.
00:23:22
Likewise, when you go out West Denver Nuggets, you know the Dallas Mavericks like, Hey, we can run this thing back and look to tweak it and push it off one more year.
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Go for that big free agency, peoples, and see where we stand.
00:23:34
And then when you talk about the Clippers, are a good team like new coaching staff.
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You know what you looking to accomplish? Their what moves you need to make to this roster.
00:23:40
We heard those Chris Paul the Phoenix kind of conversations, and that's Phoenix really saying, Hey, let's take this leap.
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Let's go committed here and get ourselves into this playoff conversation.
00:23:49
Whereas a team like the Kings, he said, like I don't know, man, you guys have kind of had some buzz around you last couple seasons.
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You guys might be to be falling off a cliff here and be staring up saying like we don't have anything we have.
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No, our assets are valuable enough to trade away for anything.
00:24:02
We're not attracting anybody here because we're the fourth team in the state that that in terms of the hierarchy of where players want to go.
00:24:09
So it's really interesting about the ramifications of this last two year chunk, you know, or whatever it is to your chunk of two seasons and how it's gonna impact franchises that were maybe trending in very different directions just 18 months ago.
00:24:23
And now all of a sudden there, like, Wow, this thing really fell apart for us, or this is a great chance, particularly forward.
00:24:29
Here's another team, the Raptors, the Raptors Air potentially talking about playing in Tampa like get really walking for the Raptors organization.
00:24:39
This like, Is Fred coming back? Are they gonna sound like Is Fred going to get the deal or is he gonna go get his money elsewhere? Is Serge trying to come to Brooklyn? That's what they were saying a couple of days ago, or is he gonna go somewhere else? So, like, the Raptors could be looking at their team with ****y P and not much else.
00:24:57
Um and then if they If they can't plan Toronto because of this sneaky little pandemic lurking around and they got to go to Tampa, the Raptors conf all completely out of being one of the upper echelon teams in the East.
00:25:09
A team that won the championship won the finals two years ago to being not even in the playoffs in the end of this season.
00:25:17
So, yeah, it's it's gonna get interesting.
00:25:19
I I love it.
00:25:20
There's so much, so much information to take in and so many things to think about, and we all have no idea.
00:25:26
So it's it's just want to see the chips fall where they may.
00:25:30
I'm I'm gonna toss a motive like being totally glued to Twitter and Social Media at noon or just being like Or maybe I just let the dust settle for an hour and like you, just like you know, you keep your notifications on your phone will start blinking and blowing up and, you know, to jump on.
00:25:46
But no.
00:25:47
Yeah, and there's a couple of other teams that are just on the way out the door here.
00:25:50
Teams like the Charlotte Hornets, who are like they're there in the mix about a Westbrook or something, trying to think about what they're gonna do.
00:25:56
I think the tomb, though, opted in there that put some more money on their books closer up there over 25 to 30 million for him this season.
00:26:03
And then a team like the Atlanta Hawks, Right? Who's had some buzz and cachet around around young and that and that team.
00:26:09
But you go, boy, you guys could really use a piece.
00:26:12
So I love Thio.
00:26:13
Listen, this is just across the board.
00:26:15
I like when the dominant teams that have the quote unquote superstars that you have expectations on. I like when they get richer.
00:26:22
I like when they get better, because then you just you picture the big battles.
00:26:25
I also like the Phoenix Suns trying to make that big splash move.
00:26:28
I want to see the Hawks get interesting, because up until this point, that seems to me is like I get it.
00:26:34
Trae Young, You're awesome.
00:26:36
Also, I have zero expectations.
00:26:38
Are you guys doing anything? And that's like deflating when you talk about having a young talent there.
00:26:42
So when you look at West there this past year and you saw Luca and you saw with the Nuggets were doing with with Murray and those guys like you're like, Oh, man, look at these young players getting a chance to showcase themselves That's what I want for the young talent, the league.
00:26:54
So I'm hoping that some of these fringe teams make a little bit of a move that just helps insert them into that playoff conversation.
00:27:01
That's what it's all about.
00:27:02
You.
00:27:03
You want to see the young stars in the league get better and get more talent around him.
00:27:07
You don't want to see Devin Booker struggle in Phoenix forever.
00:27:10
He's too good, like you got to get this guy some help.
00:27:13
You don't wanna see Trae Young struggle in Atlanta forever.
00:27:15
He's too good.
00:27:16
I referenced baseball a lot.
00:27:18
Baseball fans have watched Mike Trout's career.
00:27:21
He's one of the best baseball players were literally ever seen in our lives.
00:27:24
But they can't get you got any help, so you don't get to see him on the biggest stage.
00:27:29
You don't get to see him compete in October, when everyone is watching more than the casual fan is watching.
00:27:35
So same thing in the N B A can you get these young players, these young, talented guys, that the future of the league? Can you get them on some teams? Can you get some competitive guys around them? And that's what all of these franchises and front offices air thinking like, How do we make sure that we don't miss on this Where this guy will want to go jump on a super team or a tree or a duo? How do we get the right talent around our guys where they will stay here like a Yanis, where they will stay here like a Devin Booker, Um, and are not a Devin Booker? Ah, Damian Lillard.
00:28:09
You know, in the smaller cities where it's like way e even think about Portland is a great team.
00:28:17
What are you gonna dio? How do you keep your But that's like port like do like you guys are in such a good spot.
00:28:23
How do you avoid tumbling down the hierarchy of the Western Conference? That's a great example is well, we'll put a pin in it here because too much stuff is gonna come tumbling down over the next handful of ours today.
00:28:35
But you're right, though you mentioned Booker.
00:28:36
It's like, Hey, this is either you convince him that he can stay here long term or he's gone.
00:28:42
This is like the honest man I know you feel like he's committed and he likes a smaller market quote unquote team.
00:28:49
You better do something here because he sees what's happening around the league right now.
00:28:52
The conversations and all the stars and all the cachet.
00:28:54
So be interested to see if a team like like the Milwaukee Bucks, goes all right.
00:28:59
You want to splash the pot this year we're gonna do that for I don't know what that player is.
00:29:02
I don't know if it gets into the CP three talks.
00:29:04
I don't know if you throw yourself late into the mix for James Harden and you say, Okay, let's go whole hog here and that.
00:29:09
What does that combination look like it like? It doesn't matter.
00:29:11
You gotta at least be in those conversations and in those talks, so your superstars feel like they can stay there and win bookers that That's a great example of Booker and bringing in CP three to say, Hey, we're legitimizing this team.
00:29:21
We're going to be in the playoffs 100%.
00:29:23
And then, actually, Portland is the dark horse for me.
00:29:24
It's like, What do you guys up to like? It looks fancy.
00:29:28
It was It was flashy.
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You guys, you know, you got there in the bubble, you showed up.
00:29:32
Okay, Also, you probably need something else, though.
00:29:35
You, probably something else has toe happen there with that roster.
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In order for you guys to really go in and challenge the L A.
00:29:40
Lakers in a playoff.
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Serious Because you saw what the product was there.
00:29:44
As good as you guys looked, you weren't the Lakers.
00:29:47
You weren't walking into that into that Siri's and taking games off of them.
00:29:52
Yeah, high payroll.
00:29:53
Portland's got one of the highest team payrolls we obviously know about.
00:29:56
Dame CJ Nurkic stepped up this year.
00:30:00
Carmelo, what are they? Are they is Carmelo Has Carmelo found at home? Are they gonna you know, shore him up? Yeah.
00:30:07
Yeah, the enemy.
00:30:10
And they have the pieces.
00:30:12
And if you I mean, if you want to compete, the MBA is competitive all year round.
00:30:17
It's not just on the court, and you're seeing the MBA lead.
00:30:20
As far as you know what they're doing like they played in the bubble.
00:30:24
No one ever thought that that actually was a thing until it became a thing that we can write our own world at Disney World, where we played basketball successfully did that.
00:30:33
Now we're going to see the MBA run into what the other leagues ran into with the coronavirus testing and the pandemic actually affecting it.
00:30:41
Uh, and there's just so many landmines and different levels and things that could go on.
00:30:46
And these next couple of weeks, it is like watching reality TV.
00:30:50
I cannot wait to see what happens with the players, with the organizations and with the pandemic itself.
00:30:55
Playing through a pandemic like this is history.
00:30:58
We're watching being made, and it's it's so fun and entertaining the toe watching to talk about.
00:31:04
You said it, man, I can't wait for the names to start to drop the trains to start to happen.
00:31:09
And then, yes, I also can't wait for that to stop so I can catch my breath and figure out where everybody is and what it means and how it affects the teams around the MBA.
00:31:18
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00:31:25
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00:31:28
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00:31:30
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00:31:41
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00:31:42
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00:31:44
How about him? Um, the Cowboys did not lose this week because we had a bye week, so that's cool.
00:31:50
Stopped.
00:31:51
Are losing streak at four? It'll it'll get back on when we face the Viking.
00:31:55
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00:31:59
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00:32:03
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00:32:10
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00:32:15
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00:32:22
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Report: Rockets evaluating all options amid James Harden trade rumors, Russell Westbrook request

The Houston Rockets are in complete shambles right now. Russell Westbrook has demanded a trade, and now there’s some smoke suggesting James Harden wants out as well, despite his recent commitment to the franchise just last week after Westbrook’s trade request. At this point, the Rockets have no choice but to explore the possibility of […]

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and welcome back officially to SportsCastr News N b A on a Monday morning.
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I'm not gonna get that wrong two weeks in a row.
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I'm Adam, are back.
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Has always joined by the state aesthetically just all tied together here Keith McPherson in the morning Rocket.
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Oh, and rocking the talking. Next.
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Schrag there.
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I like that.
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That's a nice looking Yeah, Big week for the MBA for talking.
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That's I think we're gonna dio two, maybe three episodes this week, and it's time.
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It's a glorious time.
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MBA Fall aka MBA Summer.
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It's full on rumor mill season.
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That's right, man.
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We come in basically on, I guess, what's like the biggest storyline right now that the Rockets are exploring all options in terms of what they're gonna do with Westbrook and what they're gonna do with Harden on how that break is gonna go ties into Brooklyn as the I don't know who was driving the rumors could be hard himself, driving the rumors of hardened to the Brooklyn That's that's out there.
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Obviously we could touch on that, but there's a lot of other things in the last 24 hours that have started to unfold including, Ah, smaller.
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At least predicted move here when the moratorium is gonna get lifted at noon today.
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So if you think you've been hearing speculation a lot over the last 24 to 72 hours, wait until noon when all of the things that couldn't have possibly been getting discussed, all the deals that could not have been getting lined up will start popping off like dominoes.
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What? What? Some of the more exciting ones that you're hearing right now.
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I mean, I'm just I'm impressed by the Lakers.
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The rich only get richer.
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Um, they're not done.
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I think I said that to you in our slack message before, like, they have potentially like, Well, Danny Green, obviously the Schroeder incoming.
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But then Avery Bradley is not picking up his option, I believe.
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And then Rondo might be heading out and Koosman might be heading out.
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And Danny Green.
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So I'm like, OK, the Lakers are trying to repeat.
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The Lakers are not sitting on their championship and saying, Hey, we did it in the bubble with the team has constructed.
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No, they're saying, How can we get better? And I think they're looking to get better because there's no way LeBron is showing up the week of Christmas windmill dunking.
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And I just think they're going to slowly bring LeBron back and bring LeBron into his 18 season.
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Um, and they're gonna build a team around him.
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The Schroeder move is huge.
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I know that they're friendly.
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LeBron and Schroeder video was circulating a LeBron, giving him a hug while someone was shooting uh, free throws.
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I think that's a guy that that can come in and and facilitate their offense and, you know, get the ball rolling without LeBron on the court.
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And, uh, you know, he's an upgrade over Rondo or whoever else they might have had a point guard.
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So yeah, the Lakers I'm looking at.
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And then it's just like I said, it's full on rumor mill time.
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Obviously, we're both Nets fans and we're in the Nets Twitter sphere, and it goes from Serge Ibaka.
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And that's one level of rumors to now James Harden over the weekend, and even into that into today, people are still running with it, and I mean, I don't know how much truth there is to it, but it's it's fun as the next fan It's just fun to be in the center of it.
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And then we get the news today of, uh, you know, a deal happening around like 8:38 a.m.
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with 1000 Moussa and Bruce Brown and, UH, 2021 2nd round pick from the Raptors.
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Here you go.
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You can have that, and it's like, Hey, the Nets were making moves.
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The Nets are doing something, and I know it's a small move.
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Most people in the N B A landscape might not know Moussa before us, Nets fans were like, Oh, great.
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Like we could get something more than a bag of chips for Moussa.
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That's not doing that.
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We're onto 2020 2021.
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Yeah, that's the best part for me because when you talk about like some young players, especially the Brooklyn side of things, when you say, you know rhodium schoolbooks, we keep giving these sample sizes, wondering what he's gonna be.
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He's at least been on the court for us like Louisa hasn't yes, and sniffs significant important minutes for this roster.
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Yeah, the entire bubble.
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You thought it any time you see you say, Well, bubble.
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Just give most of the run like, let's just see what he's made of.
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And then it's like, That's all right.
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I don't know we're good on.
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That s Oh, yeah, and that they turned out and flip him and listen.
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He's still a young player he could develop, But the positions there, you know, it really gives them stability.
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This roster, that's incredible.
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I'm gonna be a low key move that will fall underneath all these other big names.
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But that's the Nets, I think stabilizing whether intentions are here around this roster and knowing that you have guarantees backing up these stars regards of whether not you bring it, Harden.
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What's it gonna look like when you need to go to the bench? It also feels maybe mildly indicative of a move impending, possibly because you're supplementing a position where you could have some other outgoing talent that has been mawr important to what's been happening there.
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So that will be interesting to watch for.
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I want to get the entree.
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Dude, this is Yeah, this is the entree.
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This is the start, of course.
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And you know something else I saw was that this frees up.
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I think $400,000 in cap space for the nets.
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Probably gonna need that.
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If we have moves that they're gonna come, some main courses that are gonna come.
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And, um, what else did they say about he moves? Award number 13.
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And there's a guy we're looking for out there that wears number 13.
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They went to him, They went to Moussa and they said, Are you willing to change your number? He's I couldn't possible.
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I couldn't possibly give it on high school number.
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I'm never giving it up.
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It's like, Okay, we'll get back to you on that one.
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End of the day.
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It's me or hard, You guys shoes.
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He wasn't right back across the table to them.
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So he's always He's always brilliant with confidence.
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You can't knock the guy for for being proud of his game.
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Um, but you talked about the Lakers there for a second.
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It's interesting to think about one.
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The role that Schroeder could play for them because what he showcased in O. K.
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C.
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Was, you know where I'm best Living is being the sixth man being the guy off the bench with that second, you know, I can thrive there, so I hope that that's what they're trying to mold him into and create there in l.
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A.
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And not looking to maybe thrusting back into a starting role where I listen, by the way, you're gonna benefit Playing alongside Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
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So you're starting minutes.
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Could look a lot different on that roster, but I really like them.
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Bring him in there and to your point.
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You come out, you get that championship.
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You know, there's a lot of moving pieces here.
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The White House hours of javale McGee is just all these guys.
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You know, when you look over that roster, you go behind LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
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This was patchwork in a lot of ways to win this championship.
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So and if you thought for a second that genie Boston Polanco, we're gonna sit there and go, Yeah, we made it happen.
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Let's just see how this next year goes. No, no, no, no.
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You know, you mentioned too.
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How are we gonna have nice traction coming out of the gate starting December 22nd? How are we not gonna put strain on LeBron James and his legs and then get the extra Russia when the season starts.
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And then how are we going to be even more confident going into the playoffs this year that we really can go on this run and maybe not be dependent on? Even though you could say they would have beaten the Clippers at their highest powers, the Clippers kind of broke themselves down inside the bubble.
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Like they, they dismantled their own opportunity there.
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So there was a different path and arguably maybe an easier path for the Lakers and the bubble than they anticipated initially.
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So I think that was really almost the, you know, a Miles wake up call of Hey, let's really look at this roster and understand.
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We want to repeat.
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We need to tweak something so e don't want.
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So I'm excited to see a dominant team get more dominant, but I want to see the best teams, the height of their powers, like really reloading and saying, Let's do this thing again.
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It's gonna be so fun to watch is gonna be so exciting so fast.
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The shortest offseason ever.
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71 days from you know Game six of the finals toe the scheduled tip off December 22nd and you know Jeannie Buss, Rob Pelinka, LeBron James.
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They've been doing this too long.
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They're not gonna arrest.
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They're not going to sit back and say, Oh, we wanted were good.
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No, because traditionally, you win a championship, you lose players.
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Traditionally, you know, guys go and get their money elsewhere after winning a ring.
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And yet we know LeBron is locked in an A d is going to stay as well, but they got to build around them and they're they're not wasting any time.
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You bring intruder runner up to the sixth Man of the Year award this past year.
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Make it.
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He wins it next year with the Lakers as the sixth man coming off the bench, depending on how their roster fills out.
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And, uh, I just love it.
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Like I say, I just keep referring to right now is the MBA fall? It's probably the only MBA fall whoever get, but it's akin to the MBA summer where we usually see the complexion of the MBA changing like this.
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I mean different players going to different places from, you know, the high level superstars of James Harden to someone that's, you know, a tear under with Dennis Schroder.
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So there's a lot more to be seen in this week.
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And like you said at 12 PM when you know when that all goes and then the draft this week, there's gonna be moves in.
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I'm excited just to see how the MBA reshuffles and if the teams that were expecting to be the top teams and contenders get stronger or if they don't really do too much.
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So yeah, I would be curious to around the draft piece of it, because so say, Brooklyn makes a big move.
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Hey, I need these teams when you bring in some big players.
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Obviously, maybe some draft picks are gonna exchange hands a lot of times.
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Just talked about future picks because they, you know, especially in this year's draft class, they're saying, Well, why don't you give it to me two years down the road so I could see how that that class opens up.
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But what becomes exciting and interesting about it, too, though, is any of these teams these trades occur with now they get so exiting talent.
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Now you're getting all this draft capital, so you don't know what even some of these relatively dismantle teams could end up looking like with a bunch of young players.
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So the Houston Rockets like I'll make a case that at least they're gonna be interesting this year.
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Like if they if they jettison Westbrook and they jettison Harden.
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But And let's say it's a trade with the Nets, where you're getting back Caris, Levert, Spencer Dinwiddie and maybe a Jared Allen.
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And then they also get some draft picks as well.
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Like if they're gonna be a weird, young, exciting, interesting team in a way that they haven't been in a decade since hardens.
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Been there, you could look at Houston if you want.
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You can also take a look at Detroit, and we talked about before we started here.
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What does this mean for a Derrick Rose? What teams around the league now look at him and say, Hey, if they're looking to start selling off parts here, we may be able to add a high caliber player.
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Wouldn't even think was gonna be in the trade landscape.
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What does that look like for you, Blake Blake Griffin piece of that in Detroit? And how will some teams like, say, the Miami Heat who were rumored to maybe wanna be involved in these discussions around Harden.
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Where could they end up pivoting, right? How could they end up jumping on some other players if they don't get their first piece? Yeah, I look at I look at it like you know, a few different ways with these.
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Seems like starting off with the Rockets.
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Westbrook is out of there.
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Harden most likely will be out of there.
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There's a lot of rumblings about Daniel House, and we heard about him get in trouble in the bubble, but he didn't like the way he was being used.
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Austin Rivers wants to see what else is out there.
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Um, P.
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J.
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Tucker said that he felt like he wasn't getting paid what he deserved, because this guy turned into a center for them and played the, like, uh, $88 million click, right? Like there.
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So they have a few guys there that aren't happy, aren't satisfied.
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And then when you move a Daryl Morey, you know, like it's just the franchise moving into a new era.
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So if you're gonna move into a new era, you couldn't get it done with Hardened, Hardened had some of his best years in the last four years, and they couldn't get to the finals.
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Um, so I don't think it's gonna take anything, you know, like obviously they had a different team with Clint Capela.
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They moved on from there.
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You know, I think they might as well break it down.
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And then when we talk about the Pistons, they started breaking it down last year when they got rid of Drummond.
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I'm like Drummond is the best player on their team, by far like and one of the best players in the N B A.
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They sent him to Cleveland, and then you mentioned Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin.
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We like those guys.
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They're probably gonna end up somewhere.
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And then we already see the move with, you know, a guy that's not as high profile in Ah, Bruce Brown today with the Nets.
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It's shuffling time, and I can't wait to see some of these teams with draft capital.
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Uh, you know what? Like what they're actually trying to do, because this is the strangest draft we've ever seen.
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It's it's happening one in, uh, in November versus it happening in June.
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I'm trying to see Where do the Pistons pick? Well, that's a good look to get onto us.
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Well, yeah, because they have the seventh pick, right? And they have another interest, Another tantalizing asset that you could still get value out of if you're one of these teams.
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So it's like these organizations might be thinking, Hey, this is a opportunity to turn our franchise for the next decade.
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You know, we had it rough in Detroit the last couple of years.
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We got to do what we gotta do to make sure we get the young talent and the draft capital and the value and and, like, execute this draft and this year, the best way we can.
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We're not winning it with Derrick Rose.
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We're not winning it with Blake Griffin guys that were MBA superstars but are slightly past their prime.
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Let's blow this thing up.
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Let's get the young talent in here.
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Let's develop this talent for the next, you know, 10 years of the 20 twenties.
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Yeah, you know, it's interesting to because Houston, who doesn't have first round picks in this draft, right, So in terms of resetting it, when you look at the landscape and you say OK, even if we ran it back.
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Are we going to challenge the Lakers? The Clippers? The up and coming? You know Dallas Mavericks, like we're falling down the hierarchy of the West.
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So even though you hate the idea of rebooting rebuilding franchise like if you look at and you say, well, how far are we really going to go with this with what we currently have? If we're the best of five seed in the West and maybe making it out of the first round of getting bounced the second of the playoffs, why not take a couple of years where somebody else is bound to be better than us? Here, let's take these couple of years to reboot it and get back those assets.
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The other thing is interesting.
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Just in general, around the MBA, some of these guys.
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So I just saw pop up that the Bulls auto porter he opted into his $28.
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6 million option and which is interesting about that is like, Well, you're crippling your clippers in that franchise, you know, in a difficult fighting.
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Yeah, Yeah, like no, Otto.
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I was thinking, Oh, man, like you deserve so much better than what we could do for you here.
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But that's the hard part about the finances of these next couple of years.
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We know about all the adjustment of the league made in the new agreements and how they can push off some of the money in escrow for players.
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But when a guy offs into a nearly $30 million clip for a franchise, that's thinking, Hey, we have some young talent.
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If we have some flexibility under the cat, we can try to target a couple of guys Now.
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All of a sudden, Bulls are gonna have to probably go into A unless they're excited about that project, which I can't imagine they are at that number now.
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They got to go into Well, how do we flip this asset? How do we get Otto Porter off our team to a team that's looking to win now? Who can take on that type of money and what can we get back in return? Otto Porter is hilarious UH, $28.
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4 million option, and I think you know, is one of the type of things, like a kind of similar to baseball, right now, like you know, there's the qualifying off for in base.
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Yeah, and, like Marcus Stroman and Kevin Gausman accepted their qualifying offer.
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But guys like Trevor Bauer, J T Realmuto, D J LeMay you on the Yankees know where they're going to accept that qualifying offer for 18.
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9 million.
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They're going to test the market.
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But I feel like in this weird year, some guys aren't gonna test the market like an auto corner Otto Porter and saying, Hey, 28.
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4 million Don't sound too bad.
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I don't care how many games we win.
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Let me get that bag.
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And then now it's back to the Bulls to say, Do we wanna pay him that when we're trying to figure out who we have here? Uh, there's rumors that they might take Lemelle. Oh, ball.
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There's rumors that you know what I'm saying.
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Like there's there's a lot that's gonna play out this week with the draft and where these players are going to go on what these players decided to do.
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And that's what makes this fun on what makes it like even more fun is.
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Usually we would have this in June, July and then have to wait till November for the season to start.
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No, we're having this in a matter of, like, four or five weeks like this stuff happens.
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And then we're gonna hit the court like we hit the draft free agency, hit the court and training camps open on December 1st.
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Like these guys got to get ready.
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Like this whole thing is happening fast.
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The last episode I did a talking Mets was just called.
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It's happening fast, Like my head is spinning from everything that's going on right now.
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What are the chances? What percentage of n BA players show up to the wrong training camp? Because they just flat out don't even know where they're supposed to be in.
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Like he's gotta be booking flights toe.
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Orlando was supposed to write.
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I was supposed to.
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I think I'm in the right spot.
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Guys, I don't know.
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It's first day of high school here.
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I'm not sure where my home room is.
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Um, like the Knicks.
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Right? So the Knicks had to shut down their training facility for Cove It There's gonna be guys like there's a whole another level of complications when these guys show up and they got to get tested for Cove in and the staff members show up.
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We don't know what these people have been, what they're doing, so it's like we want to start fast.
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But there's this little pandemic going on that might coming in The way of that might get in the way of that.
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There's that 10 day period where you gotta wait to clear before again like we're in the middle of November.
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You only got like, 36 hours before you need to be on your flight, showing up someplace, getting tested in clearing all those programs.
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You're right.
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So I mean, that's such a footnote kind of factor.
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And it's not a footnote.
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It's actually really important.
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But it's so it's gonna be so interesting again.
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12 PM today it hits, and it's gonna be like deal, deal, deal.
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People are on flights.
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Everyone's moving because we need to prepare for this and depending on what type of team you are, it's important, like the Lakers were like, All right, don't worry about it.
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Will take the first month.
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We'll figure this stuff out as we go, but other teams are gonna be looking to hit the ground running here like there's opportunities for some teams to take a big jump in that first month of the season.
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If you establish yourself well and you get out to a big run and maybe play the Lakers when LeBron James and Anthony Davis aren't even on the court now, all of a sudden you could bank some of those winds early in the season.
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When you know later on down the road, it's going to get a little bit more difficult.
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Um, you know, Ah, a couple of the other ones that are getting thrown out there to you got Kelly Olynyk opting into a little bit over 13 million there, down in Miami, they had Iguodala brought in.
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So those two players alone represent 30 million of their cap.
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Becomes interesting about how they're financially gonna handle that situation as well.
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They're one of the teams that, at least at some point, was getting rumored to be a part of what could happen.
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Uh, James Harden, and where some of these players could go then you also have Rondo as we know.
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He opts out of that $2.
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6 million option.
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You got clippers and Hawks possibly being interested in him.
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Where is he gonna land? Um, what do you Is there a team that loses out on this whole operation? Is there a team that really takes Ah, beating from the quick restart, The different types of cap structure, You know where they're gonna be financially, all those things.
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Is there a team that just kind of get stuck here on the outside looking in? Or maybe has to make a move? You know, I talked with one of the guys from locked on mixed the other day around that I think I said, What if Russell Westbrook comes to New York and they were like, Jesus, I mean, does he instantly make you better? You know, better in the short term, Yes, right.
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And they're like, but also then everyone learns how to play muscle Westbrook basketball.
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They don't learn how to play.
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New York Knick basketball is that one of the season falls in a bad vote.
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They can't do that because in the first year, Tom Thibodeau, you have ah, ball dominant force.
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Uh, like Russ know it can't, because if he's coming in, they're trying to establish his culture and the way that you know, he wants these guys to play.
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You put a superstar like Russell Westbrook in there, and that's gonna immediately change everything.
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Uh, you said, what team? Well, we're speaking on the Knicks.
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The Knicks find a way to lose, no matter what they find.
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A find a way, the meth to mess things up.
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I feel like it's gonna be tough to tell.
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You know, the winners or losers.
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I think there'll be somewhere out here hoops, hype or hoops Central.
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Someone will probably give a grade for what these teams do with free agency, the draft, and this week, because it's hard to tell right now.
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Like obviously, you know, it looks like the Nets are winning.
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The Nets get rid of Ah, player.
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They throw a second round 2021 pick from the Raptors and a player that fits nowhere into their plans.
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To get a guy that can immediately come in and make an impact like that's a win for the Nets.
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But like none of us saw that coming.
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We don't know what some of these teams are gonna do.
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I I look at teams that we have we've looked at as the powers, right? Like the Bucks, right? The bucks have been considered one of the top teams in the East with the honest the M v P.
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Okay, you guys got bounced.
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You didn't make it to the Eastern Conference finals.
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And also now, with this opportunity to get better and build around Yanis, what have you done or what are you going to do? So it's like there's more of a microscope on these teams that have been upper echelon.
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The Celtics.
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What are you guys going to do to improve? Is boarding Hayward out of their like, Are you guys gonna like what? Like, what are the top teams in the East and even in the West? Right.
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The warriors air healthy.
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Now they are considered one of the top teams went healthy.
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But what are you gonna do with this draft pick? What you gonna do with some of the free agents out there? And what you gonna do to make sure that your team is competitive again in the west, that is stacked.
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And there's always did emerging.
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We saw.
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Okay, See, come out of nowhere.
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Last year, no one was X affecting.
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Okay, See to do what they did with Chris Paul with Shea Guilders.
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Alexander.
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And they did.
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So it's hard to say right now what teams do, I think you know, benefit the most or what teams do.
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I think you know well, like struggle from this, Um, it's yet to be seen, and we'll see it real soon.
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This week it is It is crazy.
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It is history.
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Um, like I said even to about the coronavirus like and the pandemic like, we're all running really fast to get to our spots and learn about what's going on and get prepared, and then the pandemic is gonna come in and say, Pump your brakes.
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You know, there's some cases in, uh, what's a hot spot? I mean, obviously New York, Look at the Knicks.
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You know there's some cases that are going to slow down the Knicks from training, practicing, preparing and getting ready.
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Even their front office is being able to meet like that, affect them, that that's tough.
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Everyone's doing stuff on Zoom, but this is a rare occasion.
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Some teams, they're gonna get better.
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Like I said, the rich get richer.
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The Lakers have already got better.
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Some teams just gonna stay where they're at.
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Some teams you're just gonna forget about like, Oh, the Kings.
00:22:28
What is the king? Nothing.
00:22:30
The King's just stayed put with the guys that they got.
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They're just gonna be bottom feeders.
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But I think the top teams where where we really gotta be looking at what the Clippers gonna do? The Clippers didn't get all the way to where they were expecting after the huge summer they had last year.
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What are you going to do to improve what you gonna do to change your fate going in the next year? It's all in front of you right now.
00:22:50
Well, that's you know, and you're you're right.
00:22:51
The is the perfect point because established teams that came up short this past year And when you say the bucks like that's the big ones, that may, especially if if something like this happens in Brooklyn, then you're like, Well, that team is obviously cattle.
00:23:04
They're already gonna be up there just alone with Katie and Kyrie.
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Now, all of a sudden, there into that mix of the best team in the in the east, Not the second you know whatever.
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They're gonna be vying for a conference championship, obviously looking to go to the finals, the Miami Heat.
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Maybe say, Well, we can stand pat on what we did last year.
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So maybe thought is important for us in this off season.
00:23:22
Likewise, when you go out West Denver Nuggets, you know the Dallas Mavericks like, Hey, we can run this thing back and look to tweak it and push it off one more year.
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Go for that big free agency, peoples, and see where we stand.
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And then when you talk about the Clippers, are a good team like new coaching staff.
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You know what you looking to accomplish? Their what moves you need to make to this roster.
00:23:40
We heard those Chris Paul the Phoenix kind of conversations, and that's Phoenix really saying, Hey, let's take this leap.
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Let's go committed here and get ourselves into this playoff conversation.
00:23:49
Whereas a team like the Kings, he said, like I don't know, man, you guys have kind of had some buzz around you last couple seasons.
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You guys might be to be falling off a cliff here and be staring up saying like we don't have anything we have.
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No, our assets are valuable enough to trade away for anything.
00:24:02
We're not attracting anybody here because we're the fourth team in the state that that in terms of the hierarchy of where players want to go.
00:24:09
So it's really interesting about the ramifications of this last two year chunk, you know, or whatever it is to your chunk of two seasons and how it's gonna impact franchises that were maybe trending in very different directions just 18 months ago.
00:24:23
And now all of a sudden there, like, Wow, this thing really fell apart for us, or this is a great chance, particularly forward.
00:24:29
Here's another team, the Raptors, the Raptors Air potentially talking about playing in Tampa like get really walking for the Raptors organization.
00:24:39
This like, Is Fred coming back? Are they gonna sound like Is Fred going to get the deal or is he gonna go get his money elsewhere? Is Serge trying to come to Brooklyn? That's what they were saying a couple of days ago, or is he gonna go somewhere else? So, like, the Raptors could be looking at their team with ****y P and not much else.
00:24:57
Um and then if they If they can't plan Toronto because of this sneaky little pandemic lurking around and they got to go to Tampa, the Raptors conf all completely out of being one of the upper echelon teams in the East.
00:25:09
A team that won the championship won the finals two years ago to being not even in the playoffs in the end of this season.
00:25:17
So, yeah, it's it's gonna get interesting.
00:25:19
I I love it.
00:25:20
There's so much, so much information to take in and so many things to think about, and we all have no idea.
00:25:26
So it's it's just want to see the chips fall where they may.
00:25:30
I'm I'm gonna toss a motive like being totally glued to Twitter and Social Media at noon or just being like Or maybe I just let the dust settle for an hour and like you, just like you know, you keep your notifications on your phone will start blinking and blowing up and, you know, to jump on.
00:25:46
But no.
00:25:47
Yeah, and there's a couple of other teams that are just on the way out the door here.
00:25:50
Teams like the Charlotte Hornets, who are like they're there in the mix about a Westbrook or something, trying to think about what they're gonna do.
00:25:56
I think the tomb, though, opted in there that put some more money on their books closer up there over 25 to 30 million for him this season.
00:26:03
And then a team like the Atlanta Hawks, Right? Who's had some buzz and cachet around around young and that and that team.
00:26:09
But you go, boy, you guys could really use a piece.
00:26:12
So I love Thio.
00:26:13
Listen, this is just across the board.
00:26:15
I like when the dominant teams that have the quote unquote superstars that you have expectations on. I like when they get richer.
00:26:22
I like when they get better, because then you just you picture the big battles.
00:26:25
I also like the Phoenix Suns trying to make that big splash move.
00:26:28
I want to see the Hawks get interesting, because up until this point, that seems to me is like I get it.
00:26:34
Trae Young, You're awesome.
00:26:36
Also, I have zero expectations.
00:26:38
Are you guys doing anything? And that's like deflating when you talk about having a young talent there.
00:26:42
So when you look at West there this past year and you saw Luca and you saw with the Nuggets were doing with with Murray and those guys like you're like, Oh, man, look at these young players getting a chance to showcase themselves That's what I want for the young talent, the league.
00:26:54
So I'm hoping that some of these fringe teams make a little bit of a move that just helps insert them into that playoff conversation.
00:27:01
That's what it's all about.
00:27:02
You.
00:27:03
You want to see the young stars in the league get better and get more talent around him.
00:27:07
You don't want to see Devin Booker struggle in Phoenix forever.
00:27:10
He's too good, like you got to get this guy some help.
00:27:13
You don't wanna see Trae Young struggle in Atlanta forever.
00:27:15
He's too good.
00:27:16
I referenced baseball a lot.
00:27:18
Baseball fans have watched Mike Trout's career.
00:27:21
He's one of the best baseball players were literally ever seen in our lives.
00:27:24
But they can't get you got any help, so you don't get to see him on the biggest stage.
00:27:29
You don't get to see him compete in October, when everyone is watching more than the casual fan is watching.
00:27:35
So same thing in the N B A can you get these young players, these young, talented guys, that the future of the league? Can you get them on some teams? Can you get some competitive guys around them? And that's what all of these franchises and front offices air thinking like, How do we make sure that we don't miss on this Where this guy will want to go jump on a super team or a tree or a duo? How do we get the right talent around our guys where they will stay here like a Yanis, where they will stay here like a Devin Booker, Um, and are not a Devin Booker? Ah, Damian Lillard.
00:28:09
You know, in the smaller cities where it's like way e even think about Portland is a great team.
00:28:17
What are you gonna dio? How do you keep your But that's like port like do like you guys are in such a good spot.
00:28:23
How do you avoid tumbling down the hierarchy of the Western Conference? That's a great example is well, we'll put a pin in it here because too much stuff is gonna come tumbling down over the next handful of ours today.
00:28:35
But you're right, though you mentioned Booker.
00:28:36
It's like, Hey, this is either you convince him that he can stay here long term or he's gone.
00:28:42
This is like the honest man I know you feel like he's committed and he likes a smaller market quote unquote team.
00:28:49
You better do something here because he sees what's happening around the league right now.
00:28:52
The conversations and all the stars and all the cachet.
00:28:54
So be interested to see if a team like like the Milwaukee Bucks, goes all right.
00:28:59
You want to splash the pot this year we're gonna do that for I don't know what that player is.
00:29:02
I don't know if it gets into the CP three talks.
00:29:04
I don't know if you throw yourself late into the mix for James Harden and you say, Okay, let's go whole hog here and that.
00:29:09
What does that combination look like it like? It doesn't matter.
00:29:11
You gotta at least be in those conversations and in those talks, so your superstars feel like they can stay there and win bookers that That's a great example of Booker and bringing in CP three to say, Hey, we're legitimizing this team.
00:29:21
We're going to be in the playoffs 100%.
00:29:23
And then, actually, Portland is the dark horse for me.
00:29:24
It's like, What do you guys up to like? It looks fancy.
00:29:28
It was It was flashy.
00:29:29
You guys, you know, you got there in the bubble, you showed up.
00:29:32
Okay, Also, you probably need something else, though.
00:29:35
You, probably something else has toe happen there with that roster.
00:29:37
In order for you guys to really go in and challenge the L A.
00:29:40
Lakers in a playoff.
00:29:42
Serious Because you saw what the product was there.
00:29:44
As good as you guys looked, you weren't the Lakers.
00:29:47
You weren't walking into that into that Siri's and taking games off of them.
00:29:52
Yeah, high payroll.
00:29:53
Portland's got one of the highest team payrolls we obviously know about.
00:29:56
Dame CJ Nurkic stepped up this year.
00:30:00
Carmelo, what are they? Are they is Carmelo Has Carmelo found at home? Are they gonna you know, shore him up? Yeah.
00:30:07
Yeah, the enemy.
00:30:10
And they have the pieces.
00:30:12
And if you I mean, if you want to compete, the MBA is competitive all year round.
00:30:17
It's not just on the court, and you're seeing the MBA lead.
00:30:20
As far as you know what they're doing like they played in the bubble.
00:30:24
No one ever thought that that actually was a thing until it became a thing that we can write our own world at Disney World, where we played basketball successfully did that.
00:30:33
Now we're going to see the MBA run into what the other leagues ran into with the coronavirus testing and the pandemic actually affecting it.
00:30:41
Uh, and there's just so many landmines and different levels and things that could go on.
00:30:46
And these next couple of weeks, it is like watching reality TV.
00:30:50
I cannot wait to see what happens with the players, with the organizations and with the pandemic itself.
00:30:55
Playing through a pandemic like this is history.
00:30:58
We're watching being made, and it's it's so fun and entertaining the toe watching to talk about.
00:31:04
You said it, man, I can't wait for the names to start to drop the trains to start to happen.
00:31:09
And then, yes, I also can't wait for that to stop so I can catch my breath and figure out where everybody is and what it means and how it affects the teams around the MBA.
00:31:18
Obviously, you can follow Keith McPherson doing his thing at Keith Underscore McPherson right here on SportsCastr.
00:31:25
And as you see it across his chest, they're talking.
00:31:28
That's doing the podcast with John Boy Media.
00:31:30
So check him out over there as well as he said, ramping up that coverage because news is flying around beyond that man, anything that people need to check you out, doing here or otherwise, just SportsCastr NFL stuff.
00:31:41
I also do.
00:31:42
I also do a show for the Dallas Cowboys called.
00:31:44
How about him? Um, the Cowboys did not lose this week because we had a bye week, so that's cool.
00:31:50
Stopped.
00:31:51
Are losing streak at four? It'll it'll get back on when we face the Viking.
00:31:55
So, yeah, I dio NFL coverage on here in MBA coverage.
00:31:59
And then if you follow me on Twitter, it's mostly Yankees and baseball stuff there.
00:32:03
But I'm just a general sports fan and lucky to have, you know, people that enjoy sports and talking sports with me.
00:32:10
You know what, man? Look up O g p for your Giants coverage by me and Andy over there.
00:32:15
Also doing the lock down nets podcast and anything on here at at a marmot, you'll find all the content I'm doing, I'm here for it.
00:32:22
And like he said, if you like sports good, that's what I'm here to talk about, and I'm willing to engage on all of it until next time.
00:32:28
Everybody, thank you for checking in with us here on SportsCastr News.
00:32:32
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