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00:00:01
Yeah, yeah.
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You got the intro moves or you want me Thio.
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I got, uh and we're live today.
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We're just gonna, you know, talk about all sports and have some fun.
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I'm with Perry, the founder of Wanna rap sports, and my boy, the co host of the People's XFL podcasts.
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Garrett from Iowa.
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You know us were on last night.
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We had some stuff to say about the x f l the Spring League and our good buddy, Justin McMillan.
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He decided to duke it out with the coach, but you can hear right that on the podcast in the today, we're just going to kind of talk about whatever.
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So I wanted to start off with the Cowboys and Garrett Gilbert.
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He was impressive.
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Yeah, you know me, man.
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One of the biggest Cowboys fans there is, and I've just been looking for any sign of hope, any sign of effort, any sign of guidance and leadership from that position.
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This is the fourth quarterback this season.
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He was on the team for, like, three weeks, and he beats Cooper rush for that start.
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Obviously, Cooper Rush only signed that week, but he was the back up quarterback for Dak Prescott for like three years before that or two years before that.
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So he's got the report with killing more.
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He knows the playbook.
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They bring him back specifically to start him.
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And then Gary Gilbert dismisses that clear.
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And what I read from Cowboys camp was that he clearly outplayed Cooper Rush like it wasn't even a competition throughout the week.
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So it's great to see.
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I mean, I really I kind of counted it out at all.
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They're bringing Cooper rush back. That makes sense.
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It's the most un***y signing they could do right now, but it makes sense.
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And, uh, Garrett Gilbert went out.
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He won the job, went out again to the only the only undefeated team in the league and almost put it to him.
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E heartbreak.
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You see, May I add my Greg the leg relying jersey on to Hey, I like, Hey, you know me, I'm a kickers punters guy.
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I say that every show be I'm a the biggest Steeler tater in the world, so I have to do it.
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Then I think the cowboys, we're gonna win.
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Not a chance in health, but they always did it and Garrett Gilbert.
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To me, there's no question he should start over Cooper rush until well, the foreseeable future until he shares.
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That's why you shouldn't has a Cowboys fan there.
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I'm a Decatur.
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We'll disclose what one of the hypotheticals I posed to, a couple of the other podcasts I follow that take questions and they kind of disregarded it and went with the whole.
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That's not gonna happen, and I understand that this is a long shot.
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But if the Cowboys were to win the N c N f c East behind Garrett Gilbert and pull off a first round playoff upset, do you give back a contract? You know, obviously it's a good, fair question to ask, obviously, cir***stances Having favored Dak with how the negotiations went, they went and signed Andy Dalton get leverage so that he would sign that franchise tag so he wouldn't hold out.
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He did sign the franchise tag.
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He went and got injured, which is every player's nightmare on a franchise tag without, you know, security.
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So is it in his favorite note? The good news for him is that the ankle injury is notorious for kind of just being a you work it up real quick.
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You take a year off in your back at it.
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It doesn't really stop your Athleta.
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It's not like an Achilles injury or tornado cl or something that can drastically change your explosiveness or how you're able to perform as an athlete.
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I don't think it's one of those injuries personally, and I'm the complete opposite to do.
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And I think the decade is it could be warranted depending on how you look at the situation.
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I personally think that I don't I can't call a guy elite unless you have playoff success, unless you have one in M V P.
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Like there's certain things that you have to reach before you can reach elite.
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You know, like like right now you could say that Pat Mahomes is elite because of his M V P because of his Super Bowl.
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But you can't say Lamar, you can say Lamar Jackson is elite or you could say he's not elite because of that.
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M V P. He hasn't any playoff succeeds.
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Success like that's a really good example of who you can.
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Can you call him elite yet? You know, has he done enough yet that you have to do enough to really be put.
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Yeah, that that leak here is a very small tear, in my opinion.
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And But I do.
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I think he's a great quarterback.
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I do personally.
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And, like, I think you as a hater could at least admit that he is a good quarterback, you know, because lighting the statistics or they're obviously if you could make the excuse for garbage time stats, but he doesn't play defense.
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He doesn't make personnel moves.
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You could only do you know what he could dio.
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So at the end of the day, what's the the better option you did put a good scenario out there.
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Gary Gilbert goes ahead, does all that same with that being said.
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I don't think they offered Jack a long term contract this offseason anyways.
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And thank you so much for the phone finger.
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Best Carolina fans.
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Very, very nice.
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And very much appreciate.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, I don't think he gets a long term contract this offseason unless they offer him exactly what they offered him.
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Last fear.
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And he kind of just has take it.
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I don't see it happening.
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I see another franchise tag happening.
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Um, and I mean, that's 40 something million dollars against your cap right there, so you might as well, rather, if that's your guy, you sign him to that deal.
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And if it's not, I don't think the franchise tag is the right move.
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Personally, I think you go all in or all out.
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That's how I view life.
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I think if you think he's worth 40 something million dollars a year for the franchise tag, you definitely think he's worth $40 million a year.
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Usually you just paid him 40 million this year.
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You're paying him 40 million in next year, so you clearly think he's worth that amount off from that amount for four or five years ago.
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I coming off the injury, he's gonna take that for the Security, even if the number was a little lower than he wanted it originally, Um, but yeah, like I said, if you think that this isn't a guy you want long term or you're not sure yet, then you scrap it off.
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You let him go.
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You find ways to spend that salary elsewhere to improve your team, but like if you are thinking about franchise tagging him.
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Then I think you think he's your guy and you go and pay him that amount for three years at least.
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Doesn't have to be a 56 year deal.
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Three years, you know, some meet him halfway, um, all winter off.
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That's how I see it.
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Well, you're a lot more realistic than cowboy most cowboy fans.
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I converse with a lot of my back comes from the absolute love affair that everybody has with E do love them, though I do love like Do you like That's my God, you see more realistic, Like anytime I get a lot of like Well, I don't think Dak is an elite quarterback.
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That should begin paid Russell Wilson money, which I feel is a fair take and immediately you get these people.
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He's the best quarterback we've had way.
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Can't get rid of that.
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My only thing that I could say back to when people say is he worth this amount of money? It's like when you look at Kirk Cousins contract.
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When you look at all these guys contract, it's the market that's being set and inflation.
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So you have inflation.
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So a contract that says $45 million in 2020 is nowhere close to a $45 million contract in 2010.
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So when you're comparing Oh, is this guy worth this amount of money than this guy? You do have to put some context.
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I'm not talking about your Russell Wilson, because that's true.
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But certain ones, like I hear like, Well, you know, Kirk Cousins is worth that money.
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Well, this guy's not worth that money.
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I mean, is Jack Prescott worth the same amount of money to Shawn Watson? I personally think so.
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You look at the you look at the statistics, you look at the record, you look at everything.
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They're pretty on point pretty similar.
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If anything back edges about on those things, they both have an injury history.
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Now, uh, in my in my opinion, if you're setting the market, which you just did with Watson, I think Dak fits right in there.
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If that's your guy, I think that amount of money is fair.
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Pat Mahomes was not a market center like that was it goes Pat Mahomes, the Grand Canyon and then everybody else like is a 10 year contract.
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The thing in the NFL.
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No, it's not a thing in the NFL 10 year contract mortgage guaranteed money than you've ever seen in the history of football.
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That is because you're locking down the Messiah like this guy won a rookie of the year, an M V P.
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And then it's Super Bowl like What the **** more can you ask for from a man? And you have him at his absolute youngest right now? E like that.
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You don't You people are like, Well, if there is a market, it's a market inflation.
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You Pat Mahomes like bro don't even talk that the homes in this conversation right now, like I'm a Cowboys fan.
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But like you just have to remove the fact that that signing happened but like that's not going to affect the market like that's his own market.
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The only person that will get close to is Lamar Jackson.
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I don't think he even touches that well, no, and Pat Mahomes can't that contract.
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Like you said, it can't be counted because it's just a perfect storm of cir***stances.
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Casey, I wasn't in on the conversation because I'm just a redneck in Iowa, but I'm assuming it was something like, Hey, Pat, we want you to play for Kansas City for the rest of your career.
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So what number do you want on a 10 year deal? And you gave them a number.
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And they said, Okay, uh, I really think that e I really think it was more of a blank check and was just like here, man, you just you write what you want, and we'll tell you if we got in the budget or not.
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And if we don't, we'll make it happen.
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Like, be really.
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And the thing is, when you when you give player that option two, here's a 10 year contract.
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Ask for whatever you want.
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The guy is not going to be like Give me 90% of the salary cap.
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I want it all.
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You wanna like you just tasted what a Lombardi tastes like.
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You know how many more championships that man wants? He wants another 10 in that 10 year contract like he wants to win it every year.
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So for him to be selfish and ask for more money than it would allow them, you know, that would be ignorant and small minded of him, because he would be limiting his chance of success.
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Because what happens when you know you don't draft well for a year or two? You don't have a Clyde Edwards Hilaire that falls in your lap.
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Tyronne Matthews leaves because he demands a contract. Chris Jones.
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Like when that contract done, can you afford to get them all again? If Pat Mahomes asked for an over inflated contracts? No way you're gonna happen.
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The worst defense family trying to outscore each team.
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But he's a smart man, you know.
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He did ask for a number that left them flexible for years to come.
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Not like they're going to be the heaviest cap space team like That's not even close, but they'll be mid tier every year.
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They play their cards right, and they know that they got their guy.
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And now you've got quite Edward Teller on a rookie contract.
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That's another few years like you got a wide receiver factory there like their their offense.
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So set this point.
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It's just how do we make the defense better and better and better than what it takes that pressure off Pat Mahomes, you know? Yeah, it seems like there's no ever since they lost tyrann. Matthew.
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There's like no all star in the defense.
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There's good players, but yeah, not signed to the big contracts for a few years.
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Or mostly like two year deals, if I remember it.
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Yeah, Doctor, I couldn't tell you without looking it up.
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Mhm back together.
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It's big enough.
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But I really wanna mention Garrett Gilbert because I know you were a big fan of him.
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I just like for me.
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I think what he's shown that he belongs in the league is the backup.
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And I think that says a lot for a guy that was just playing in the XFL.
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He I think I think his feeling is like Case Keenum.
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You know, I think I think that's fine.
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I think you're gonna have a serviceable career for your whole career case. Keenum.
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Maybe even like Ryan Fitzpatrick, I could see in the E.
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That's not a problem to me.
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You gotta chase Daniels, one of those guys.
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Josh McCown.
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You know, so many guys that you knew when you had a backup, you weren't screwed.
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You know, I think that's how your view Gary Cooper is a really run gaga is down there dead as wayside until we've seen possibly the ST not not New Orleans saying, but the actual ST guarantee over if he can win some games.
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And there's believing that there's still a chance I could take the East.
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Oh yeah, the East is wide open.
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We're talking to six one, keep one.
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And if they if they can win, they have a shot 13 games.
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If the saddest division in the history of football, it is so sad because of the fact that he like the fact that we've been talking about the Cowboys having a chance to win this division is out of this world.
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You have the Rams, who are pretty much struggling for contention right now, and the Seahawks and all these teams in that division.
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And then you look at us and it's just like any of them would be clinching in the next week.
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You know this division, like it's absolutely absurd how you could be like a game away from competing for the division or a game away from the number one pick in the draft.
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Like I don't think that's ever been a thing, the NFC least.
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Yeah, it's I couldn't even tell you like a single, you know, even Carson Wentz, Daniel Jones.
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Whoever had they decided to start in Washington, nobody really shows ourselves that they can leave the team.
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Daniel Jones is one.
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What is it? Four games in his career, and three of them were against the Redskins or the Washington football team.
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Whatever you want, he's he can't.
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He literally can't beat anybody with Washington.
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Daniel Jones is not the answer.
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He is not the answer.
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I don't see it, but I really got here.
00:14:01
Carter that with, Oh, sorry, he lost his security billion.
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Get wind sock.
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Juan Barkley went down and that hurt him a lot.
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He didn't hit that.
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We need him and you got that old line that is really rough to like.
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They got injuries on top of really having a really bad online.
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And it's just a mess, like he has more turnovers in the history of football in your first two seasons.
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Daniel Jonas like like seven e could be wrong, but I swear I seen a picture earlier today and said he had 17 interceptions.
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It's the fumbles.
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Two.
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It's the fumble.
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So he had six. I think he had 16 fumble last year.
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Thanks last week, the prop bet for Daniel Jones having a turnover was like negative 1 70.
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It's bad.
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It's a given.
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Yeah, it's like the guy's gonna fumble or thrown interception at some point.
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Like like he's gonna look good to at times, like he'll be like, Okay, like he's got a good drive going.
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They'll throw a red zone pick and you're just like, Oh, man, like we knew it was coming like we knew it was coming and they just benched golden tape.
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They didn't even have them fly to the their last game.
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They said it was an effort thing like That's Golden Tate, a distinguished veteran, one of the top slot receivers in the last decade.
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And he's not even trying what the Giants like.
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E think that's an organization thing.
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I think he's just like Joe Judge.
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You were a special teams coach a year ago, and now you're a head coach trying to tell me what to do.
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You were a special teams coach a year ago, like stop trying to act like you know everything.
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You ain't mention the young Golden Tate and you throw in Sterling Shepard.
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You know Darius Layton, who is? I love.
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He would rather get two touchdowns in the game or he blanks for one catch.
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Five yards.
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And he's done.
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And it's just, sadly, had him on my fantasy team.
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I have him on a lot of fans.
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E have two teams e Luckily, I didn't take on the second one S o I definitely I digest a lot of content.
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I'm lucky enough that my job I have podcast playing in my ear about nine hours a day.
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So I think a lot of the things with Golden Tate to is the Giants team.
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Preseason seemed really high on Joe Judge coming into the season.
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And they seemed like they had really high expectations.
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And with where they're at now, I mean, tape might just be, like, just over it, you know? Like, what the **** happened, right? No, I agree.
00:16:38
I could see like that.
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That could definitely be the effort problem.
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There they were.
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Okay, I Giants fans were writing high coming into the year, so Yeah, I got a call the NFC East now.
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I gotta you win the division, guaranteed.
00:16:51
I got a question.
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So if you're the Giants.
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Obviously, you're probably gonna get a top 10 pick, you know, guaranteed.
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Maybe even top five at that point.
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What's your move? Are you guaranteed locked in Going for a quarterback looking for your next guy? Do you think, Joe Judge give Daniel Jones another year and misses this opportunity with Take One out to take for a pick? Like, What do you think they're going to do? Because I think they're one of the more intriguing situations.
00:17:15
I think the Redskins are sorry the Washington football team as well.
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You know Haskins, isn't there guy? Kyle Allen just broke his ankle.
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I don't think he was the guy either.
00:17:23
Got Alex Smith gradual.
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Alex Smith out there, you know, Do they guarantee a quarterback pick like, I think, the NFC East besides the Cowboys? I don't think the cow, I think you have to go with the guy you have there signed back to a franchise.
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Tag that or if not, you go for a quarterback.
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Later on, they got back in the fourth round.
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They don't go on draft quarterbacks first overall, like that's not a Cowboys way of drafting.
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Um, but I think I think that not when they have one contract.
00:17:50
So Washington and the Giants, Is it a guarantee that they're going for a quarterback on the first Giants? I say, Yes.
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Washington.
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I feel like there it depends who who has the worst record.
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I'm saying the giant through that with the worst record.
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They're taking the Cube.
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Then that pushes Washington and think about it.
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And I feel like they have to give Haskins another year, right? You think so? They already banks.
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Task is I think I think Askins is done down there.
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That that's the one wrinkle I see.
00:18:22
It is where what happens with Haskins because personally, it just it really seems like Riviera does not want him.
00:18:31
I don't think so.
00:18:32
I don't think he wants him it all on.
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The thing is, I think this is more of a personal problem for him because of the fact that you have the old regime.
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You have all these coaches, all those personnel that were a mess, the Washington football team of the mess.
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Um and they didn't really love his demeanor.
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They didn't have all these things.
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They weren't sold on him.
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And then now you bring in pretty much brand new regime.
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Pretty much everything's new, they say.
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Okay, let's give this guy a chance because we drafted him so high and they don't just pull them, they pull him quick.
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They don't make any public comments really about it.
00:19:00
And you see photos of him at practice like folding his arms like 10 10 10 ft away, disconnected and straight.
00:19:09
The third string I have to go.
00:19:12
Do not collect $200.
00:19:13
You are no third string, I think.
00:19:15
I think that's a moment where they're like we're done with you.
00:19:17
And But the thing is, I don't think that smart, if you're if you're Washington, if you just kind of tanked his trade value, you kind of just like.
00:19:24
But I think it might have been so bad now that let it's now less of a realistic like who trades for Dwayne Haskins? I think he gets released.
00:19:32
I truly think at some point he just gets weighed, just released and a team will pick him up for sure and take a chance on him to start him as a backup and maybe he gets a chance or two.
00:19:45
But I don't even think he has a trademark it anymore.
00:19:48
You can't even get a Southern.
00:19:50
You could get 1/7 for him anymore.
00:19:52
But back to the Giants, I think Daniel Jones gets another year because this is this is only This is the second year he lost his running back support.
00:20:01
He does not have an old line.
00:20:03
I would see them, you know, say Kwan's back next year.
00:20:07
Get him Samo line protection because I haven't watched a lot of Giants games, but the games I've seen, the reason a lot of the reason is getting so many turnovers is he's just trying to do so much, you know, trying to make throws with guys wrapped around his knees has he's falling.
00:20:23
You right, you know, So I would not be surprised to see Daniel Jones playing for him next year.
00:20:30
And I Who are you going to draft born? Right? You are gonna get Lawrence.
00:20:38
That's probably to get Lawrence.
00:20:40
The Jets were gonna get Lawrence or the Jags, one of the two.
00:20:45
Whoever doesn't get Lawrence is probably gonna get Fields and who's after that? I think it's a guarantee that it's gonna be feels to the Jags that to Lawrence to the Jets at one.
00:20:58
And then after that, you got Cowboys, probably at three.
00:21:02
I don't think they take quarterback there.
00:21:03
I think they go online or defense or potentially move back.
00:21:07
And then after that, you know, it's it's gonna be a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks on that topic team.
00:21:13
So I don't I agree.
00:21:15
I think I agree with Garrett on this.
00:21:16
I don't think the Giants abandon ship with Daniel Jones yet, but I think that the Redskins have no answer right now because Kyle Allen already wasn't that guy.
00:21:24
He just had that report with Rivera from Carolina.
00:21:27
He gets injured.
00:21:28
Are you waiting for Kyle Allen to come back like that? That's what you're waiting for is a fan base.
00:21:33
So Carl Allen, back next to you guys, just wait.
00:21:35
You just wait.
00:21:36
Like no one is saying that like not one person is sold on Kyle Allen being their franchise quarterback.
00:21:42
Like what he did in the 23 games that he played was the same as what Alex Smith has been in the game and a half that play.
00:21:49
So it Z a mediocre quarterback, good you know, I to be honest, that, you know, I'm not always a mediocre.
00:21:57
He's definitely good.
00:21:58
He's starting right now, but, like he, how good is he? I think I think Garrett Gilbert can have the same career.
00:22:03
Is Kyle Allen no problem? Given the opportunities that Kyle Allen tag, you know, I don't think there's much of a talent difference between them and stuff, you know, Not it's not a not gone, either.
00:22:14
Them, either.
00:22:15
It's just shows how far away Kyle Allen is from being a distinguished starter in this league, that you wait to come back off injury.
00:22:22
You know, I really don't love a healthy Kyle Allen, let alone a callin coming off an injury.
00:22:28
That doesn't sound like a winning recipe for me.
00:22:30
You know, I think the best much, much more likely to draft a Q B than the Giants.
00:22:35
Yeah, maybe not even first, either.
00:22:37
There's a lot of good quarterbacks distract.
00:22:38
You can get a Mac Jones from Alabama in the second round.
00:22:42
Yeah, exactly.
00:22:44
A fall.
00:22:46
Yeah, you big that guy, man.
00:22:49
I still have my old Instagram page.
00:22:51
He actually followed it.
00:22:53
I think he still follows it, but I got locked out of the thing.
00:22:55
You can't **** wait a couple of times a season and stuff.
00:23:02
That's the whole fan base.
00:23:04
Hey, them.
00:23:05
When the tour got benched on, that's whenever I started getting into him.
00:23:09
I'm like this guy has the time.
00:23:11
He had, like 28 K fall or someone he's not gonna answer some dude who has, like, 700 forward.
00:23:17
I said, I d and I'm like, I'm glad to see you get in this episode and said, Thanks, man.
00:23:21
I appreciate them like that was ****.
00:23:24
Well, it is the fan of you Hot take on Alabama.
00:23:29
Nick Saban cannot win with a great quarterback.
00:23:34
Have we seen when he's had a bad quarterback, though.
00:23:37
Great, great.
00:23:39
Why he does.
00:23:42
He does not win national championships when he has a great quarterback.
00:23:45
He won two national championships when he has a Mac Jones who's been great.
00:23:49
I'm just I'm just curious like like to to a was considered top tier top of line, going to be a great quarterback.
00:23:55
And they didn't before that who wasn't like McCarron and yeah, Karen, that's another guy I love.
00:24:02
Well, yeah, they're all good quarterbacks but it seems like it gets an elite really hopped, hyped up six star, I realized six stars not really thing, but just to say like a six star level Q B recruit.
00:24:16
They end up losing.
00:24:17
They don't go to the N.
00:24:18
C or they lose it because he just focuses so much on the rest of his offense.
00:24:25
You know, they always have great receivers.
00:24:26
They always have a great old line.
00:24:28
They always have a good defense.
00:24:31
So you give you give him a two and he doesn't.
00:24:35
His game plan doesn't work.
00:24:36
He just sticks a quarterback like Mac Jones in there and not to disparage Mac Jones.
00:24:40
He's a very good quarterback, but he's not a six star, immediately immediate celebrity level that like to awas.
00:24:50
That's true.
00:24:51
I mean, I definitely think to ADDers cards stacked against him, though at the end that with with the injuries, though, you know, yeah, but all right.
00:24:59
But I don't think they ever had a great quarterback with saving.
00:25:02
No, he wins with good ones, and they just have really good receivers and really good old line.
00:25:07
That zone over read of Alabama Cube.
00:25:10
Hey won the natty, but look at what he had around him.
00:25:15
Yeah, that line is like freaking Easter Island heads.
00:25:19
You can't get through concrete.
00:25:23
I want you to, uh, and then do you get the short end of the stick and, like, snap your ankle, which is one in a million If you're in Alabama Q. B.
00:25:32
You know he was dull through it.
00:25:34
It's not hard to put up really good Q B stats when your old line gives you eight seconds of play to throw the ball and your receivers are all seconds faster in the 40 than the DB is trying to cover up.
00:25:46
I mean, so, But, yeah, talk about quarterbacks.
00:25:53
So what are the Bear's gonna dio? Yeah, trap after Iraq, I can see I could see them going for a guy like Zach Wilson from B Y u E.
00:26:05
I think that would be a guy that can run a Nagy offense pretty well to be on it.
00:26:10
That's that's a lot of what I'm hearing.
00:26:12
A lot of guys you know, I'm close to Chicago.
00:26:15
That's the closest Well, not the closest.
00:26:17
But that's where I get my That's my protein fandom and a lot of Zach Wilson talk, and he's probably gonna be there at 16, which is where the Bears are projected to be.
00:26:27
I really I really do like him.
00:26:28
I think he's and he's he's pretty raw to like He's got a lot of room to grow as well, and he's so young, like, I think he's going to be really good in the NFL.
00:26:36
People don't aren't sold yet because of his size.
00:26:38
But, I mean, I don't think size matters.
00:26:40
Looking Kyler looking, you know, rough like I think as long as you're a good quarterback with a high I Q like you can perform in this week.
00:26:48
You know what size gonna do.
00:26:50
Nick Foles is 64 getting eight passes a game batted down.
00:26:53
So sighs like what it used to be for quarterbacks like there's some, like decent that, like mid side averaged.
00:27:05
You quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield.
00:27:08
What's he like? 5 11.
00:27:09
Russell Wilson's 5, 10, 10 years, I believe 5 10, but that prototype 65 quarterback like Big Ben, it's kind of I'm not gonna say it's out the window, but it's nowhere near fall short because it used to be 10 years.
00:27:24
It's true and it's cool because I heard someone giving me the Lawrence over Fields debate the other day and they were like, Well, the guys 66 compared to like 62 and I was like, That's not the argument that I would use like Hawaii's better but like definitely like it is rare to see the 6 ft six towering quarterback with that for the Nowadays, I think it's more of like six threes, like what you're looking for for a quarterback, realistically nowadays, and you're okay if they go 6 ft or a little bit below.
00:27:50
If they have that kind of I Q and mobility in the pocket, like I think football is different.
00:27:55
That was a lot of more motions.
00:27:57
There's a lot more, you know, decoys and a lot more stuff going on instead of just lining up under center and just you being the one quarterback that does things back in the day.
00:28:06
But I think it's different and the D lines have changed, too.
00:28:09
I don't care if you're 68 when you're deep, when the D lineman or 6 10 with 3 ft long arms, you aren't gonna throw over him, even if you are, even if you are our 6668 eso, you still got throw around them.
00:28:24
So yeah, I don't know.
00:28:26
That's withdrew. Brief that at the beginning.
00:28:31
What do you guys on next spring? Lee? Yeah, really? Definitely.
00:28:37
Kevin Anderson's been hot.
00:28:39
That's our boy, Kevin Anderson.
00:28:41
That is my dude.
00:28:42
Since freaking day one.
00:28:45
I know you're upset about the stat questions you have to make, but like Garrett said to me earlier, like if you want correct stats, you want the in depth ****ysis Moose is putting out like, three articles a day.
00:28:55
Right now, he's going absolutely absurd.
00:28:57
So he's got all the correct stats, all the stuff of the players and stuff.
00:29:01
So definitely the guy you wanna be checking out right now.
00:29:04
Actually, I got a like from Kevin Anderson on Twitter, so I was pretty excited about that.
00:29:10
I put up a deal about TSL being bad at math.
00:29:14
They needed to watch themselves because Kevin Anderson would call him out.
00:29:17
So yeah, he didn't like it.
00:29:20
I think he wanted retweeted it to s so that was pretty cool.
00:29:26
I did definitely.
00:29:27
I'm really enjoying watching the spring leg.
00:29:30
It's pretty solid football, a lot of exciting place.
00:29:34
I'm gonna blank on his name.
00:29:35
Who's the return guy? Moose? Back to back for, uh, Matt ***ton.
00:29:41
Yeah, ***.
00:29:42
And had had a punt return walk off punt return to win the game last week and then ran the opening kickoff back this week.
00:29:50
And he's just a good guy.
00:29:51
The first thing he put on Twitter after the game this week he put on there.
00:29:55
He's just It was a clip of him.
00:29:57
Run the kickback and he just thanks to all my guys for the great blocking.
00:30:02
I just I like seeing you won't see that you love the same one.
00:30:06
Players are able to give credit to everyone else around them, especially that shows leadership to me like maybe I made a big play.
00:30:13
I'll be on SportsCenter tonight, the like, while I have the time to speak on it right now, I'm gonna shed the light on the other people That made it possible.
00:30:19
I think that's the way that you got to go about it.
00:30:22
Yeah, definitely.
00:30:23
Mentality another guy.
00:30:26
He's all right now.
00:30:27
Brian Scott on on the right.
00:30:30
Yeah, I'm on the rap, you know? Yeah.
00:30:33
Garrett knows, too, for the people who were here.
00:30:36
Don't know.
00:30:37
I talked with them a decent amounts to and did an article with them and had some quotes.
00:30:41
He's already got a touchdown.
00:30:43
And, like, 50 yards just in the first drive.
00:30:48
He's got off tonight.
00:30:50
Are you watching that? Live right now? Yeah.
00:30:52
TV is literally right behind.
00:30:55
What does that mean? FF fs one, right? Yeah.
00:31:00
I didn't realize that they that they had games on live today.
00:31:04
Yeah, they changed it because the jealous tres and elephants had the I don't think they had the four fit with the jealous, jealous Ter said they would forfeit because they said they quote unquote didn't have enough time to practice.
00:31:17
Even though the conquers were, uh, they didn't even know they were gonna play yesterday until five hours before the game.
00:31:23
They came out and put up 42 points.
00:31:27
And that's the reason the jousters air now 13 Why? So why don't they know that wasn't like Kobe related or just a schedule change or something? Yeah, Elster has something to do with Kobe protocols.
00:31:40
They said one of the guys like had it turned out to be a false positive, I believe they said one of the gel, Istres had a positive run, a test and they had the, you know, wait 24 hours and give him another one.
00:31:54
This and that.
00:31:55
And apparently it's gone now, I believe, because the league just said up the reason it was the game never happen because jester so they didn't have enough time to practice.
00:32:05
They made them forfeit, which I I like.
00:32:07
I called for that, like, way back when Kobe was saying the MLB, It's like I'm sorry this is a screwed up season.
00:32:14
And But if you have positive cases and you can't play the game, call it a forfeit.
00:32:20
Move on with season.
00:32:21
Yeah, no, I agree.
00:32:22
I think, honestly, we're all dealt the same hand.
00:32:25
Obviously, some people are more unlucky than others, but it's very professional athlete right now and whatever league like you need to be locked down besides staying team, doing your thing going home coming back.
00:32:37
Like if there's a break out for a team to where it's not just one isolated guy like you're clearly going against protocols or you're not able to figure out a way toe, Keep your team healthy.
00:32:48
Like I think that's a you problem, in my opinion.
00:32:51
The ST Louis Cardinals, which I hate ST Louis anyway.
00:32:55
But they all went and partied at a casino like the first week of the season.
00:33:00
I think I played doubleheaders the rest of the time.
00:33:05
No more of that in the beginning.
00:33:08
Yeah.
00:33:09
Did you even have, like in basketball like Lou Williams stopping by the strip club way back to the bubble, Like to get wings? It's like, Bro, you were.
00:33:17
You know how outlandish this idea is to keep this league going right now anyways, and you want to put it on the line by going to get ****ing wings in Atlanta like coming stripper like just the icing on the cake.
00:33:29
Grow a strip club.
00:33:31
It's like, Dude, I mean, the wings looked amazing.
00:33:33
Don't get me wrong.
00:33:34
I looked up. I looked at the menu.
00:33:37
It looks phenomenal.
00:33:38
So, like, let's talk. Let's talk. Get that twisted.
00:33:40
But at the end of the day, like cir***stances like its timing lose like you got the league on your hands like if that If that went wrong up on you, dog.
00:33:48
Hey.
00:33:49
Made a mistake, and he was sick in too much about the breast and the thighs instead of with Yeah, backtrack a little bit cause I got pulled up.
00:34:03
Brian Scott last week.
00:34:04
17 of 37 220 yards, uh, passing Tedy and a two point conversion passing TV.
00:34:11
You'll take that.
00:34:12
Yeah.
00:34:13
So he showed up.
00:34:14
He made our honorable mention list for stat leaders.
00:34:18
So I was Yeah.
00:34:20
Uh, the other one.
00:34:21
The clay odd Bethel Thompson, 25 of 36 322 yards and two TDs.
00:34:28
That's falling out.
00:34:30
Yeah, you forgot how to place.
00:34:33
But last year was good.
00:34:36
All right.
00:34:38
Last night, I believe he threw three picks and had just one touchdown.
00:34:47
Yeah, it was.
00:34:49
It was It wasn't good.
00:34:51
It was not pretty.
00:34:53
And he's a guy who's playing pro in the CFL for a couple of years to, But I was glad that they put in, uh, aviators put in the back of Georgia.
00:35:02
Bowen, whose I'll give a spoiler.
00:35:05
He'll be one.
00:35:06
He's a guy that I talked about earlier.
00:35:08
It's gonna be in my next article that gave me a couple of quotes.
00:35:12
He is He's had a hell of a story.
00:35:14
He went to play in Serbia before he came to the spring lead.
00:35:17
They play football? Serbia.
00:35:19
Yeah, pro football in Serbia.
00:35:21
And he His team made it to the, uh, like football.
00:35:24
Football, not soccer.
00:35:25
Yeah, like, you know, like, Okay, what are back? Prescott football E on the dirt.
00:35:33
I'm not just looking like schoolyards.
00:35:36
It's crazy to watch the highlights.
00:35:38
His team made it to their version of the Super Bowl.
00:35:43
Okay, we're gonna I'm gonna have to check that out tonight, because yeah, Serbian football that intrigued, he played on the Blue Dragons, the team that beat them with a wild boars.
00:35:54
They got some good names.
00:35:57
There's another one.
00:35:59
I think there's another one like the golden lions or something.
00:36:03
Would you like to be? I feel like if we cut ourselves short, like I think for us in America, we stop when we come up with one team name like let's just come.
00:36:12
What we do is like just the name Like, why aren't we adding descriptive adjectives with, like, every other like I want? I don't want this the Lakers like I want.
00:36:21
The ferocious Lakers were like, I want something like you go to Korean baseball.
00:36:27
They got, like the fighting blob.
00:36:29
I'm like the only thing I could think of that, like it can resemble that in America like Notre Dame, which would be like fighting Irish like there we go like we owe, like, we'll just call them the Bulls.
00:36:40
And it's like, Come on! Like the Raging Bulls, which sounds so much more fun like E just sounds more tough, too.
00:36:50
There's no real, like adjective change all I could think it was fighting Irish.
00:36:55
I was trying to University of Louisiana Lafayette, the raging Cajun.
00:37:00
Yeah, I e one that to Coastal Carolina beat to get it right.
00:37:06
Yeah, because, yeah, because they came out and beat Iowa State Week one.
00:37:12
So that was definitely L and play the game.
00:37:15
As far as I'm concerned so far from the Spring League this week, Kevin Anderson threw a pick, tackled the guy and recovered the fumble all in the same place.
00:37:25
Tell you the bowler, that's the efforts that that you want to see.
00:37:29
Like if I'm looking at another league and I'm looking for guys to give a chance to just practice squad or just to give that.
00:37:34
Like, I'm looking for a guy.
00:37:35
That not just how how he plays one on his good plays, when he makes those moves like he throws a pick and you see a guy sprint that far and knocked the guy down and get a fumble and get that ball back like that's the heart of a champion.
00:37:47
If I'm looking at scouting, yeah, look a lot better than Matthew Stafford's highlight reel of him trying to make a tackle this week.
00:37:57
Oh, yeah, sorry.
00:37:58
Was Philip Rivers Yeah, laying there e kind of stop and think for a second.
00:38:04
I'm like, Maybe he's right.
00:38:07
Pulled, pulled.
00:38:08
The Daniel Jones tripped over one of the yard lines before the guy got to him and Turf Monster.
00:38:13
God asked.
00:38:15
Yeah, so, uh, one last thing on the TSL and anybody listened to the podcast last night got me and mousses opinion on this, but eso we they had a quarterback was running down the opposing team's sideline, and one of the coaches said something to him, and he proceeded to get in a fist fight with the coach.
00:38:34
If you're watching film and that's the guy's film, what are the chances you call them? Okay, keep in mind.
00:38:40
In the spring league, he's went two for 12 and an interception.
00:38:46
He's a lefty to lefty quarterback All it all again.
00:38:50
So let's get your you deserve the hate.
00:38:52
Like if if those are your stats and you're not playing deserves a you're not coming to play like I don't know, I'm a tough love guy.
00:39:01
So, like, I definitely I'm a big believer of positive reinforcement when it's needed, but I'm, like, even bigger believer and really dropping the hammer when it's needed.
00:39:11
So I think you could take No.
00:39:16
My biggest take on it was like the spring leg is to get film to show NFL scouts, and that's that's your film now, bro.
00:39:23
I'm not gonna go all into it because I did that and almost stroked out last night.
00:39:27
Yeah, yeah, that that's his film going forward now, you know.
00:39:35
What are you gonna do with that? And who is even gonna put you on the practice squad? No one? Yeah, absolutely nobody.
00:39:42
Obviously you have deserving people getting cut from rosters, let alone if you're like Oh, I'm in the spring.
00:39:47
Reagan here is my team, right? Well, I have a question for you, Moose.
00:39:51
What do you think of coal? McDonald? Because I know you were not hyped at the addition because of your boy, but still, like, what? Do them what's act like? I'm gonna act like he isn't on the conquers.
00:40:02
I'm just gonna act like he got signed.
00:40:04
Thio don't know.
00:40:05
Let's just pretend you got signed to a different team.
00:40:06
So it's not a bias tape.
00:40:09
He didn't put up good numbers in college.
00:40:11
He got drafted.
00:40:12
Seven.
00:40:13
Surrounds of the Titans. I'll give him that.
00:40:15
He's good.
00:40:17
Is he overrated? A tad bit, but probably not as much as I make him out to be is he's somebody who could.
00:40:28
He could be a practice squad guy.
00:40:30
He has the potential.
00:40:31
If he has the right coaching, he could come in and be like he's kind of comparable to C.
00:40:37
J.
00:40:38
Beth.
00:40:40
Third, he he just needed to get the accuracy down with the right coat.
00:40:43
He could easily be somebody who come in and play some games.
00:40:46
It's the athleticism that keeps him in the conversation.
00:40:49
you know, because he played in Hawaii and kept him in every game and really was just able to extend plays and keep that.
00:40:58
I just think it's what he can do with his legs.
00:41:00
That's that's in apart another guys, because, I mean, you're right, he's not the most accurate, doesn't have the strongest arm in the world, although it's pretty strong.
00:41:06
But I definitely think it's his athleticism that will keep him bouncing around professional leagues for a while.
00:41:14
If and if you find a spot in the NFL, obviously, when you have your one stop with the Titans and it doesn't work out doesn't mean that's your last.
00:41:22
But I think you said it right.
00:41:23
You know, I think practice squad for him.
00:41:25
Potentially get in.
00:41:26
I mean, look at the Cowboys of your man like you get Cooper.
00:41:29
Rush off the practice squad.
00:41:30
Garrett Gilbert coming in like you just wait.
00:41:31
You wait for your opportunity, like like you know, Garrett said to you, get the right tape.
00:41:36
You know you play right when you get to write opportunities and you just use that.
00:41:39
That's your most recent tape, and that's what people see and put scout, see, And what your staff say.
00:41:45
And you just wait for that opportunity like, Yeah, there's so many random people signing out and you get when you start with the XFL.
00:41:51
You guys know more than anyone like What was the whole point of the XFL? Not to be an official farm, Lee before the NFL, but to showcase people's skills and how good they are so that they could get that chance will be NFL when the XFL folds out of nowhere.
00:42:05
It was like 40 people that signed with the NFL within like a week.
00:42:08
Parents like it works like other.
00:42:11
These other ladies work.
00:42:13
Yeah, look at people. Walker.
00:42:15
Exactly.
00:42:16
He's backing up Teddy right now.
00:42:17
He got snapped this year.
00:42:19
Yeah, well, you if you follow XFL writers, I want to say they are.
00:42:25
We're currently average green, probably three players a week and signed to either practice squads or rosters that played in the XFL last season.
00:42:32
Like like currently as the season goes on.
00:42:36
Yeah, there was like, six of them last week.
00:42:38
It was crazy.
00:42:41
So we had Georgia Slovakia, which we talked about him on the podcast, but he was born in Italy he had.
00:42:48
He played a full season.
00:42:49
When Janikowski went down in Oakland his first game, he had a 55 game, 55 yard game winner, and next season he played for the Falcons and had another 55 yarder.
00:43:02
Hey, who's the guy that he's the guy that used to wear the Cowboys had? Or the cowboy hat Shug Bud Light sensors that the kicker didn't just last week? Castillo Castillo.
00:43:14
Hey, hey! Went two for two last week and three for three on P 80.
00:43:19
So he had a game.
00:43:21
You love to see it.
00:43:22
I definitely thought that video is like the hardest sugar, like in the entire like XFL last year.
00:43:28
It was just him, not even shotgunning, just chucking.
00:43:30
I'm like you get a gold star cracking that went and shot.
00:43:35
Yeah, well, that's why I can't wait for the XFL to come back.
00:43:39
I mean, aside from the play, and I really like some of the rules changes just the sideline reporting, hopping in on that guy where they had to cut him off because he dropped three F bombs in five seconds.
00:43:50
You know it's walking up to a guy that can't breathe because he just had an 80 yard interception return for a touchdown.
00:43:57
How are you feeling, man? E saw the quarterback red his eyes.
00:44:04
E I got some blocks e o be honest with you to like with the Rock taking it over and company, obviously his partners as well, like you're taking a product that we enjoyed very much and had a lot of entertainment value.
00:44:23
And you're adding probably the king of entertainment, like Thio.
00:44:27
Now go and leave that up death.
00:44:29
You guys like the real changes.
00:44:31
Now you like the features ****.
00:44:33
Now, like I think it's just going to go a whole step further.
00:44:36
And you've heard him say 100 times that he's not here to, like, scrap everything and start new like there's a product there that people like that just needs to be worked on and sustained.
00:44:46
I think that's the main thing is let's not working on it and more about just sustaining it because you're one and out, you know, whenever they did it in the 2000 and then you're now 1.5 an hour.
00:44:58
Sorry, half the season and out this time and Now you've got this kind of leadership in that kind of money and buying it like there's not a chance in this world that it goes one and out like this is, at the very least gonna be around for another few years.
00:45:11
But I really don't think the rock and company bought this toe to mess around and have some fun with three year or two.
00:45:17
I think they're trying to build something like, really build an entertainment entity.
00:45:21
But seriously competitive football as well.
00:45:25
Like we said, last year was kind of put together.
00:45:27
We just kind of went for it.
00:45:29
And so many people got NFL opportunities.
00:45:32
So many people died of E.
00:45:35
Yeah, you do it right? I really think this can be the unofficial official farm system of the NFL.
00:45:40
Really? I dio Yeah.
00:45:42
No, don't talking future.
00:45:44
This is one that we got into this on our first podcast.
00:45:47
Like your take on it.
00:45:48
I really I don't see the XFL competing with the NFL, but I see them maybe being a problem for the N C.
00:45:56
Double A in the future because you can you can go get paid, or you can go play for a scholarship.
00:46:04
I think we're already seeing that too, You know, I think with the XFL Not just that, either.
00:46:07
The G league in N B A and then you guys aren't the biggest back e the The league is doing something similar where it's like Okay, well, here's this program we won't pay you a lot would be like 30 to 50 d k a year, similar to what you'll get on any normal like management contract or something.
00:46:25
Lower level like it.
00:46:27
Zits enough, you know, to keep food on your table, do you? And do what you do.
00:46:30
And, um, here's that and you get to be around semi professional coaching, if not fully professional coaching.
00:46:37
Like if you're on the Raptors.
00:46:40
Like two years ago there, G league squad got Jerry Stackhouse as your coach, like you're getting.
00:46:45
You're getting hands on training from people that know what it takes to get to that next step, and you're right there, like you're right there.
00:46:53
You're already wearing the T shirt that says the team name on it and stuff like and instead of like all right, let me go to get chance of myself not get paid. Go get a scholarship.
00:47:03
Learn like you don't need to learn **** if you're If you're an athlete like that's not your concern.
00:47:08
Like you need to be uneducated person.
00:47:10
That should be on how you were raised.
00:47:12
But taking advanced calculus and accounting isn't gonna help these guys with their ****ing careers, like you're a professional athlete.
00:47:20
After that, you'll be an ****yst or you'll be a coach or you'll make money off your likeliness like you'll get endor*****ts.
00:47:27
You do these things.
00:47:28
And then, eventually, Some of these guys have other passions outside of sports that they explore, but they have such a big name from playing professionally, getting opportunities.
00:47:36
Is it hard for these guys like, I really don't think four year education for the the talent it takes to get to these professional leagues is important.
00:47:45
I really don't think so.
00:47:46
But if you're a guy that's like, I think I'm good enough to get to college and play ball.
00:47:51
I want to pay for my college.
00:47:52
I wanna pay for my dog.
00:47:53
That's the d****.
00:47:55
That's where it's like, How can I play what I love? I know I'm not gonna go professionally, I wanna focus on business or whatever it may be, but how do I pay for college through it and still do what I love for another couple years? I love that mindset.
00:48:07
But if it's I'm already getting calls from, like, the Jets.
00:48:10
And I'm like, 14 like, you know what I mean? Like, you're at that ****ing level.
00:48:13
You're standing here while everyone I was trying to talk to you is ****ing here and the wrap it around your ankles like you're not a normal person like you're not going to try and get college paid for.
00:48:22
It's how do I get to the league? How do I get my family taking care of now? How do I buy my mom a house like, That's how these guys were thinking less of.
00:48:29
How do I pay for college? So you say, Yo, here's an XFL contract for one year.
00:48:34
We almost guarantee you're going to the NFL after this.
00:48:38
Why? Why would you go to college unless you are just like my co founder Christian, who didn't have a did not want to play in the NFL, doesn't even like football anymore, like he just hates it now just because of how, what a strain it did on his on his mind and his body.
00:48:51
But he went to southeastern Louisiana and he played offensive lineman for four years and he got his education paid for.
00:48:58
He did not pay a dime.
00:48:59
He does not have student loans.
00:49:00
He loved doing it because it put his family in a good spot, put him in a good spot.
00:49:04
He got to do what he loved for a few more years.
00:49:06
But it was not his aspiration to go to the NFL.
00:49:08
He kind of was more of a realist.
00:49:10
That is perfect for you.
00:49:11
But if you know that you are a genetic break like he extremist, streamline the process.
00:49:17
My friends just go go for the bag, like **** going to any college.
00:49:22
Like I went to Arizona State.
00:49:23
You probably went to Iowa like colleges, colleges, Great e.
00:49:30
I just assumed that all the gear, but it was it was cool.
00:49:34
You know, I'm not asking myself.
00:49:36
It's an experience, but, you know, you know what you gotta do if you're in after, you know, You know what your career goals are? Yeah, Well, And the other thing with the D League XFL comparison.
00:49:47
I got a I came to tell you his name because, like a second or third cousin twice removed Assumption that I don't know, we're Dutch German.
00:49:53
So you know all your extended family, But yeah, he had, like, a 10 year journeyman career in the D League E.
00:50:00
I mean, he got paid.
00:50:02
You get paid, and you don't have to go to Australia.
00:50:05
You don't have to goto Korea like you don't have to go like you were mentioning Serbia, like, you know, like to be able to stay home.
00:50:12
You know, stay in the states, do your thing, get paid.
00:50:15
What I get paid doing service, you know, whatever I do, I run a restaurant myself.
00:50:19
Like I'm sure it's the same contractors in the league, something similar, like you live a fine life, you know, and that's it.
00:50:27
And you get to play the sport you love, like one of my best friends hating like I don't think he's good enough to go to the MLB, but like he refuses to give up his dreams like he is playing for the New Jersey Jackals now, and they actually just won the championship of their league.
00:50:41
You might go signed to a team in Cancun like **** man, if you got the contracts and you're saying, Hey, postpone real life for a little longer and keep doing what you do and here's the same amount of money to keep yourself straight.
00:50:54
I think that's the dream.
00:50:55
I think it's awesome.
00:50:56
We're not giving an opportunity right now, but if you got it, you know, keep chasing it just like your spring league.
00:51:03
I think it's like your spring league guys, you know, some of them are on the brink of, like, do I keep going and the NFL's XFL's I've you something else and, like, I just feel like if if you're there, you're on FS one playing football right now, you're close enough to keep ****ing trying.
00:51:17
That's how I feel.
00:51:19
Another thing about the spring league.
00:51:21
I'm not sure if I mentioned it earlier.
00:51:22
It's actually even more of like a something like, you know, the players say this is my dream.
00:51:30
It's actually a pay to play league.
00:51:32
I looked on the website asked if it's accurate because it was from last year, said 2100 bucks is a sign up sheet.
00:51:39
So these guys Yeah, 20.
00:51:42
, yeah.
00:51:45
And one person decides to beat up on opposing teams.
00:51:49
Coach for that money? Uh huh.
00:51:52
Yeah.
00:51:53
$2100 to get in a fight with and complete two passes out of 12.
00:52:00
Uh huh.
00:52:02
Yeah, let's not talk about that anymore.
00:52:06
Already got bad ones this week.
00:52:09
That's gonna be That's gonna be a good segment on the podcast.
00:52:13
Yeah, that was just Yeah.
00:52:15
I could never get Spotify the upload.
00:52:17
I don't know what's going on there, but anyway, that's neither here nor there.
00:52:19
That's inside baseball.
00:52:23
So not a huge basketball guy.
00:52:26
But how do you feel about MBA started in time for Christmas.
00:52:29
So you excited? Uh, I mean, it's cool, you know, obviously you want sports back, but like, I think you could tell them, um, a realist when I can be and try to I'm a big guy on player safety.
00:52:42
I'm a big guy on stuff like that.
00:52:44
So is the one month turnaround ideal for some of these guys that were just in a bubble for over 100 days competing and in very weird cir***stances, I think you're giving half the league nine months off at home to train and and live the life you want while you have have to leave coming off a month or two, his rest and extreme cir***stances.
00:53:07
So is it a fair playing field to start the league with that little of a turnaround? I don't think so.
00:53:13
I really don't. So we'll see.
00:53:15
I'm excited, Obviously.
00:53:16
Writing championship, you know? Can't complain.
00:53:18
I'm super happy with the Lakers championship.
00:53:20
I got a Dodgers championship this year.
00:53:22
I got to.
00:53:23
So I am the last person to complain right now.
00:53:25
But yeah, I mean, Lakers will be back.
00:53:27
W surprisingly, don't see LeBron play for like a month.
00:53:30
I'm serious, like you probably won't suit up for like the first one.
00:53:33
Like you're You're like 35 days off playing for a championship like you will not play.
00:53:38
You'll work out.
00:53:40
Oh, the team.
00:53:41
You'll be there.
00:53:42
But you'll see a lot of veterans that were in that bubble.
00:53:43
Just not play the first month because you know the the injury risk that you take and how good you'll be when you need to make a playoff run, it's I don't see it have just don't see it happening.
00:53:53
So really, I think a d Quiet Leonard's will really takes a bunch of time off.
00:53:57
Like all of these stars, just guys that are looking after their body, they'll be, they'll be sitting for a little bit, and it's gonna be a weird beginning.
00:54:03
I don't even know what the protocols are with fans yet.
00:54:06
I saw that like, it's gonna they're going to allow them.
00:54:10
It's gonna be like distance, certain things like that.
00:54:12
But that goes back to I'm gonna ask you guys the same question because the same thing in college NFL right now, how much of an advantage it is for certain places in cities that allow them toe Have some fans, if not all, some fans right now in comparison to a place like Los Angeles, where you want to see a soul in that stadium.
00:54:31
So is there that big of a difference in advantage while playing to be going to the Kansas City Chiefs to play football, for example? And you have half the stadium in comparison to going to play at the Rams new stadium, where there's not a person in the stadium like.
00:54:46
Is there a big difference there? Because crowd noise is only so much.
00:54:50
But, you know, look at Notre Dame.
00:54:51
They crowd stormed the ****ing field when they be cleansed stuff.
00:54:54
If you go to USC, there's not a person to stand.
00:54:56
So, yeah, how how big of an impact is that on game play? You want this one Moose, or you want me to go? I got it.
00:55:05
That may out I'm saying it's massive, even if they're you're allowed 3000 fans.
00:55:11
The teams of the You didn't have fans for the past, you know, x amount of weeks.
00:55:18
Or like we got fans here today.
00:55:19
We gotta show up, you know, just hearing like the rial crowds here just get you gun.
00:55:24
The president here in the canned audio noise e mean, sure, it's just a different a lot of man, but it's more fans and zero.
00:55:34
There's just something about live fans and just add a different aspect of the game compared to the camp crowd that was like with the world, the world Siri's like it didn't feel the same this year because it's the stadium wasn't bursting at the seams.
00:55:47
There were fans, but it wasn't like normal fans definitely make the sport.
00:55:54
I agree.
00:55:55
I think I I definitely agree, I think, for the fan experience, I think it's easy to replicate that in person because I think even like the MBA bubble, for example, like they did a surprisingly good job with the crowd noise.
00:56:07
But it was You really appreciate how good commentators are because like they get you pumped like if a commentator's good, you're really in that and if they're not, you're not.
00:56:15
And so I think like Mike Greer, he's just like, bang bang, like someone hit the game when he shot.
00:56:20
You're sitting there like at home like what the ****? Like you don't even know if there's a crowd there or not.
00:56:25
You don't even care like he just got you so excited.
00:56:27
But if I'm on the field and I'm playing the sport, I truly think there's a massive difference with having 3000 fans in comparison to zero.
00:56:36
I really think there is a big advantage and then for so for me, I mean, I'll bring you back, I guess, to the MBA thing for you.
00:56:43
Garrett, like you're coming off a month rest, with half the league having that rest the other half, just going through these crazy cir***stances.
00:56:52
And then you're gonna allow certain teams toe, have fans, certain teams not to.
00:56:56
I don't think it's an even playing field.
00:56:58
The Lakers, with no fans off a month's rest, are still gonna win two championships in a row.
00:57:03
And I don't wanna hear a ****ing thing from anybody.
00:57:05
But but still, like I I truly think its's interesting how uneven the playing field is this season, with cir***stances in comparison to to pass, I think it's even more impressive of a team coming off the bubble with no fan wins it in comparison toe arrested teem with a full stadium.
00:57:26
Yeah, well, and if it was going full stadium, I think the advantage would definitely be a lot bigger.
00:57:33
I'm not gonna say there's no advantage, but even like watching the I don't know so much about college.
00:57:39
I think that Notre Dame crowd was pretty loud, but a lot of the pro ones, there's still the crowd noises still run through the system.
00:57:45
It's not the actual crowd, so that negates some of it, but no definitely being able to look in the stands.
00:57:53
And, you know, if you're at a Bears game, even if it's only 2000 people instead 20,000 or however many that place holds, I I misspoke.
00:58:01
I'm sure it's more than 20,000, but still even looking up there and seeing 2000 people with their faces painted orange and blue screaming, that's gonna help.
00:58:09
It definitely gives an advantage to the play.
00:58:11
To the team's happens, their home home field fans there, Even if it's not a full stadium, I agree, but it definitely doesn't make a difference, because I didn't even having some fans at like, especially the Saints.
00:58:24
Everybody hated playing there because it be, Yeah, the decibel level was you couldn't hear your quarterback when you were a receiver.
00:58:32
And with 2000 fans there and the restrictions they put on simulated crowd noise, you aren't gonna have that effect, so I mean, I don't think it's a huge advantage, but it definitely help.
00:58:46
Yeah, I think when you add all these little disadvantages, though together it's It's definitely one of those words, like, you know, that doesn't sound right, you know, but it is what it is.
00:58:59
But I get what they make.
00:59:01
You want to get the new calendar as back to normal as possible.
00:59:05
That's every goal for these leagues right now.
00:59:07
Like how? How do we rush this and take a big of a hit right now is possible to get back.
00:59:13
So, like, you know, how much money then they would have lost, But they didn't play on Christmas.
00:59:17
Like if they didn't play on Christmas with all of this.
00:59:20
The TV deals that they have and the prime time spots that they have e I read something was it was a couple of million dollars that would have lost just off not playing that day.
00:59:30
I heard it was a word that started with B. Yeah.
00:59:33
No, no, you're right.
00:59:35
You're right. You're definitely right.
00:59:36
But it z crazy because I mean, it's such a business, you know? And I'm such a guy that I take over so seriously player safety so seriously, like I'm so minded there.
00:59:46
But you have to remember that it's a business like and you have to be able to go through these painful trialing the error phases to be able to figure out what works to be able to figure out how we can make these, you know, somewhat safe while making money like it's the money makes this world go round.
01:00:04
It's a really tough concept of toe fight with between what's more important between money and safety.
01:00:09
But there has to be some sort of middle ground, you know? Well, I'm gonna go a little bit tinfoil hat here.
01:00:17
Every time I do this, I put a full disclaimer in front.
01:00:19
I do not think Cove it is fake, it's riel, and it's a real thing where your mask do all that.
01:00:26
But ah, lot of this is media hype driven, and I really think that come January, the media outlook on the coronavirus is going to be a lot different than has been the last six months.
01:00:40
E.
01:00:41
And I think that will affect what they do for sports.
01:00:44
I truly hope that 2021 things that that's rather the media toning down actual numbers, you know, progressing a vaccine, whatever it is, I just hope in 2021 were able to figure out more ways to navigate our cir***stances.
01:01:00
Like are we supposed to stay inside forever and cancel everything like It's just not physically possible.
01:01:07
So how do we continue to make this work? But I think we have to be able to admit when we were wrong.
01:01:12
But I think we truly have to try it.
01:01:14
Like I said, trial and error.
01:01:15
But we can't just be like, Well, it worked for us and we did it like, but did it like, how many kids do you have? How many games do we cancel, like how much you know? Do we do this, Do that like I have to.
01:01:26
We have to be able to look at things would be like, You know, Did we get through it? Yes.
01:01:30
Where did we truly mess up, like, where can we do things 100% differently next time? Because maybe that didn't work perfectly.
01:01:37
I think that's just I mean, that's the thing with anything in life.
01:01:39
You got to keep trying and trying until you find the right way of going about it.
01:01:42
But you know, it's inevitable that we have to find ways to proceed, and if that means it dies down, because the media itself or just the fact that we find a better way to live with it.
01:01:52
Like I truly think.
01:01:53
Like we've been in this, like, you know, area purgatory for quite a while now.
01:01:59
So I think they're just needs to be, like a path forward, you know? Of some sort.
01:02:03
You know, I I don't know.
01:02:04
I know you have your your conspiracy on it and stuff.
01:02:06
I don't really have much on it just because, you know, it's science and kind of just trying to get through **** right now and keep things going.
01:02:13
But, you know, I can only hope that it does that in 2021.
01:02:16
For whatever reason, you know, I really, really for sports a combination of things.
01:02:22
Just at that, I think the narrative's gonna change.
01:02:26
I think the vaccine is gonna help, and I think we're just gonna be getting a handle.
01:02:30
And like you said about learning, I sincerely hope Kevin Warren, the commissioner for the Big 10, sees this podcast.
01:02:37
I know he probably won't, but he needs Somebody.
01:02:39
Needs to have that talk with him about learning from your mistakes because he done screwed the pooch on it.
01:02:44
It I mean, we're sitting here.
01:02:46
Wisconsin's gonna end up like 50 on the season because he just delay, delay, delay.
01:02:54
And now we have eight weeks to play eight games and there's no makeup time.
01:03:00
So you Yeah, Wisconsin.
01:03:02
They missed two, I think they for sure, miss, too. And they might miss the third.
01:03:07
And I know I might be in the minority on this one, but, I mean, I'm in college.
01:03:11
I like college to I'm more of a professional guy.
01:03:14
But, I mean, I like college, but I'm just I still feel the same way about the fact that I think it was much more irresponsible for college to do this season.
01:03:22
Interest in comparison.
01:03:24
The professionals like we're talking about professionally, the money is more, the stakes are higher and you have a bunch of adults that that is their career and their on contract.
01:03:35
If they say we want to play, they can say that because they're on contract.
01:03:40
Do they want to go at risk? Yes.
01:03:41
Did certain players opt out of their contracts and they didn't play? Yes.
01:03:45
Is college the same? If I remember, and I think it's still the same, you're a kid.
01:03:51
When you're in college, you're not considered an adult you're a kid at college, kid is what they call you because you are the responsibility of the university.
01:04:00
Your health.
01:04:01
Every single thing that is your safety is the university's responsibility.
01:04:05
You're not making money and left college changes.
01:04:07
Things obvious we barring anything like that, you don't make money.
01:04:10
They're not allowed to make money, right? Exactly.
01:04:14
You're not supposed to any of these things.
01:04:15
You don't want to get it if you want.
01:04:17
If you wanna play, then you better pay your players.
01:04:19
This needs to change that.
01:04:21
You need to now put that because if you want to keep it, how it is you are now ignorantly putting kids.
01:04:27
Who are your responsibility on scholarship? Not contract at risk.
01:04:31
We want to play.
01:04:33
I don't want to hear it.
01:04:34
Justin Fields.
01:04:35
I don't want to hear it.
01:04:36
Trevor Lords, you're 20 years old.
01:04:38
You don't have a say you play.
01:04:41
If they tell you to play, that is your job.
01:04:44
You are a first round pick.
01:04:45
Regardless, I think the fact that college in general and I think mawr especially places that care less about I'm more like the SEC in particular where they don't give a **** about Kobe, but they don't have four 100.
01:04:58
They don't have 400 people in their town like you like it's in a high volume place.
01:05:03
They're saying, **** it, they're doing that And it's like you just post going for end Canceled four games in a week and it's Wednesday.
01:05:10
It's Wednesday.
01:05:11
So it's like Like at that point, if you want to go out of your way and put your players at risk, you better have the tightest protocols you've ever seen in your life, like the like.
01:05:24
Airtight, not letting thousands and thousands of students at Notre Dame stormed the field.
01:05:30
If you give college kids the red button and say press it, go have fun.
01:05:35
I'm jamming the **** out of that button.
01:05:37
Dude, I'm at college.
01:05:38
When I was in college, I was ****ing moron.
01:05:41
I was looking for fun anywhere I could get.
01:05:43
That's all I was when I was in college.
01:05:45
Where can I get more fun today? Where can I **** something up? Like where can I burn a couch or like, just do something delinquent like eso? You're going to give me the chance.
01:05:53
During my four years of college that only come once and happens to be during a pandemic, you're gonna say, But you can go to the game with all your friends, and you have the chance to be the number one team in the nation.
01:06:03
And we're not gonna stop you from going on the field.
01:06:06
What are you going to do? You are going to storm the ****ing field.
01:06:10
You're going to get lit.
01:06:11
You're gonna go as hard as you can when you're living in the moment to your coming off that kind of life euphoria you're not thinking.
01:06:17
Oh, ****.
01:06:18
Well, CBC protocols, because you are bust into the stadium, you are going down to the field to go party on the n d.
01:06:25
Like I am.
01:06:27
I'm appalled.
01:06:28
Like it's a fact that you are allowing any students to go to game.
01:06:31
Not this play games, allowing students to go to games to with protocols looser than my ex girlfriend.
01:06:38
You're going to tell me that that is okay, like yeah, I just want to hear it from someone that telling me with logic how it's okay.
01:06:50
Like I like Give me a good one. I'm waiting.
01:06:53
I keep saying this every stream I'm on now.
01:06:55
Keep saying the same thing that no one tells me anything.
01:06:57
It's like, how is this is a good idea.
01:07:00
It's not a ****ing disaster what it is.
01:07:03
I love college sports.
01:07:04
I love sports sitting back on the selfish person.
01:07:07
But it is a disaster.
01:07:09
And you're not dealing with adults.
01:07:11
You're dealing with kids, so yeah, well, I think the most accurate take I saw the Notre Dame thing is that the storming the field battle was lost the minute they let the students into the stadium.
01:07:21
You were You were gonna stop.
01:07:24
Come on.
01:07:25
Like you're 21.
01:07:26
You just pregame three bottles of vodka in your car and you get let into a ****ing stadium.
01:07:32
But you're gonna say, but socially distance and make sure to keep that mask on.
01:07:35
And if anything happens, you're not going on the field like Come on, bro.
01:07:38
You're really gonna give me that? No.
01:07:41
The storm in the field was not a question.
01:07:43
The minute they were in the stadium, it was hauled.
01:07:45
I was like what I saw.
01:07:47
I was even mad at the kids.
01:07:48
I wasn't even like Are you guys were all ****ing this up.
01:07:50
I was mad at the state immediately was just like Notre Dame.
01:07:54
Your failing society, like it's not this kid.
01:07:59
You are like you gave him the red button.
01:08:03
I'm not in college.
01:08:04
I'm far out of college.
01:08:06
I might still jam that red button you say.
01:08:09
Oh, here's your favorite sports team.
01:08:11
Go to a game and they go beat the best team that no one expected.
01:08:14
I'm a huge Kobe.
01:08:15
Dude.
01:08:16
I may even storm the field to give me the chance.
01:08:18
Like on that hype on that drunk like Like I don't know, man.
01:08:23
You tell you were America to Well, America is the land of that.
01:08:26
You can't tell me what the ****ing dio I'm gonna do What I want my friends during right now, if you're not gonna give, like here's your box, you stay in your box.
01:08:36
There's no way to leave your box.
01:08:38
And when you leave, this is the way that you go.
01:08:40
Let's just like that.
01:08:42
You're just asking for disaster, man.
01:08:45
We'll encounter argument to that is like at some level what doesn't matter because you go back to march.
01:08:54
We are The **** has hit the fan.
01:08:59
People are losing their minds.
01:09:01
Everybody's saying, You gotta wear a mask.
01:09:03
You can't leave your house.
01:09:04
Italy is sending people home to die because they don't have room in the hospital.
01:09:10
And they send ah hospital ship to New York City to prepare for the outbreak.
01:09:15
And people are out by the thousands, shoulder to shoulder, watching the hospital ship sailed down the Hudson River because of the ongoing panda.
01:09:29
That's it.
01:09:30
That's just like, idiot, Move like s.
01:09:33
Oh, yeah, I understand where you're coming from with the storm, the field.
01:09:36
I'm not saying you're wrong, but at some point, how much stuff can we stop because you have that going on in March when everybody was losing their mind and thinking we were gonna have, you know, five million people? I'm probably I'm probably way too high on my number.
01:09:50
But there was like, some ridiculous in March, they were talking like five million people dead by now, or something like that.
01:09:56
E standing shoulder to shoulder to watch a rescue ship come down the river, for sure.
01:10:01
Know for sure.
01:10:02
I think I think sports is just something that we have.
01:10:06
That's Maurin, our face than other things. I think it is televised.
01:10:09
It's right there.
01:10:10
So, like you can see it Maurin in comparison to just something that's happening in your city, where you're like It was like 400 people out there just standing there.
01:10:18
No one knows about it because it wasn't televised broadcast and stuff.
01:10:21
So it's really it starts with us and ends with the televised meltdowns that we saw.
01:10:27
So I mean, Garrett's right, in a sense, like, have we done anything right throughout this? No.
01:10:32
But I mean, it's time to just say, Well, there's no way of stopping it.
01:10:35
**** it.
01:10:36
No, I don't think No, not trying to say. Definitely not.
01:10:39
No, no, definitely not. That's not what I'm taking from you at all.
01:10:41
But I definitely think what Notre Dame did was that what Notre Dame did was like, Well, I mean, if we're playing football, we might as well just ****ing rage, right? And like some dude that just graduated in a frat who somehow is running their athletics department was like soccer, bro.
01:10:56
Whole stadium.
01:10:57
Let's ****ing go.
01:10:58
Like hell.
01:10:59
Yeah, like let's get it.
01:11:00
Like it's like, dude like you are dealing with a lot of lives there that, like our college kids on scholarship, they're your responsibility in college kids fans that I don't know, man.
01:11:10
Well, we spent too much time on that kind of thing, But it was just appalling to see that Everything.
01:11:13
I mean, it's fun to see it for a second.
01:11:15
Or like, I missed that man like proudly.
01:11:17
Of course, like there was that part of me that was like, ****, man, what I would do right now for my lost my double, Los Angeles Lakers and Dodgers Mega ****ing parade.
01:11:27
What I would do right now to go be an idiot in the streets and, you know, be naked and go do my thing.
01:11:33
You know, you catch me just being a fool, But, like, not the time for right now, you know, it just feels irresponsible asking college kids don't think like that.
01:11:41
Everything is responsible in college, you got you got to think for them.
01:11:45
Well, man, you know, if you drink a bottle of vodka, it's such a high alcohol content.
01:11:48
You're automatically disinfected for at least a now.
01:11:50
Er it's hot enough for cold enough.
01:11:55
You're drinking, right? Brand You're good.
01:11:58
Go with Hawkeye or five o'clock.
01:12:00
That stuff will disinfect.
01:12:02
I probably you got to keep his model.
01:12:05
You could find that stuff like crude oil.
01:12:07
Yeah.
01:12:08
Shower and ever clear daily.
01:12:09
So you don't worry about me.
01:12:11
Gold disclaimer for anybody watching this show.
01:12:14
Alcohol does not.
01:12:15
Drinking vodka does not actually prevent the coronavirus.
01:12:18
We are being facetious.
01:12:20
Get holy cow much.
01:12:26
Alright, well, now that we that was a lovely rent.
01:12:29
I was impressed.
01:12:30
E that Z that might that might have took the cake on the mic knowing one from last.
01:12:37
That was good.
01:12:38
E anything, beatnik? Well, on the next day, you got time, they could verse it E O s.
01:12:47
So we got anything else going on? I think a good note.
01:12:51
That might be a good note.
01:12:52
Thio, wrap up.
01:12:54
This is fun.
01:12:55
E thinking way to walk it off, Guys An hour and 12.
01:13:00
That's the new records.
01:13:02
Not yet with no script, by the way, guys, No script.
01:13:07
Yeah, I really kind of text.
01:13:10
I said anyway, will jump on.
01:13:11
SportsCastr Perry said, Sure.
01:13:13
Give me 20 minutes and I message Garrett out of nowhere.
01:13:16
And I said, I'm going on SportsCastr, he said.
01:13:19
E, I was like, Are you inviting me or you telling me? And he's like, Well, you can come to if you want I'm like, Well, what are we talking about? He's like, I don't know.
01:13:27
We're bull****ting about sports.
01:13:28
I'm like, Let me go past my teens Grab my hat I forgot my shades again.
01:13:33
You're doing this to me.
01:13:35
I usually I usually do all my cast with shades on, so oh, that's true.
01:13:41
I do remember the last time you I do say, Tom, I do remember my my lovely wife, who was very supportive.
01:13:48
I told her that I was having to sit down Zoom call with a guy at eight o'clock, so she just came in here and ask me if I was missing my zoom call way.
01:13:56
It's like, uh, on that note on that note, we should skedaddle onto our next private zoom coal and and wrap it up for that when you guys the next podcast next to Yeah, Tuesday at nine Eastern.
01:14:15
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01:14:24
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I'm over in Pacific. It's tough.
01:14:31
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Moose Gibson @MidnightMooseUSN

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Yeah, yeah.
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You got the intro moves or you want me Thio.
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I got, uh and we're live today.
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We're just gonna, you know, talk about all sports and have some fun.
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I'm with Perry, the founder of Wanna rap sports, and my boy, the co host of the People's XFL podcasts.
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Garrett from Iowa.
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You know us were on last night.
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We had some stuff to say about the x f l the Spring League and our good buddy, Justin McMillan.
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He decided to duke it out with the coach, but you can hear right that on the podcast in the today, we're just going to kind of talk about whatever.
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So I wanted to start off with the Cowboys and Garrett Gilbert.
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He was impressive.
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Yeah, you know me, man.
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One of the biggest Cowboys fans there is, and I've just been looking for any sign of hope, any sign of effort, any sign of guidance and leadership from that position.
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This is the fourth quarterback this season.
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He was on the team for, like, three weeks, and he beats Cooper rush for that start.
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Obviously, Cooper Rush only signed that week, but he was the back up quarterback for Dak Prescott for like three years before that or two years before that.
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So he's got the report with killing more.
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He knows the playbook.
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They bring him back specifically to start him.
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And then Gary Gilbert dismisses that clear.
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And what I read from Cowboys camp was that he clearly outplayed Cooper Rush like it wasn't even a competition throughout the week.
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So it's great to see.
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I mean, I really I kind of counted it out at all.
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They're bringing Cooper rush back. That makes sense.
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It's the most un***y signing they could do right now, but it makes sense.
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And, uh, Garrett Gilbert went out.
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He won the job, went out again to the only the only undefeated team in the league and almost put it to him.
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E heartbreak.
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You see, May I add my Greg the leg relying jersey on to Hey, I like, Hey, you know me, I'm a kickers punters guy.
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I say that every show be I'm a the biggest Steeler tater in the world, so I have to do it.
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Then I think the cowboys, we're gonna win.
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Not a chance in health, but they always did it and Garrett Gilbert.
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To me, there's no question he should start over Cooper rush until well, the foreseeable future until he shares.
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That's why you shouldn't has a Cowboys fan there.
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I'm a Decatur.
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We'll disclose what one of the hypotheticals I posed to, a couple of the other podcasts I follow that take questions and they kind of disregarded it and went with the whole.
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That's not gonna happen, and I understand that this is a long shot.
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But if the Cowboys were to win the N c N f c East behind Garrett Gilbert and pull off a first round playoff upset, do you give back a contract? You know, obviously it's a good, fair question to ask, obviously, cir***stances Having favored Dak with how the negotiations went, they went and signed Andy Dalton get leverage so that he would sign that franchise tag so he wouldn't hold out.
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He did sign the franchise tag.
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He went and got injured, which is every player's nightmare on a franchise tag without, you know, security.
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So is it in his favorite note? The good news for him is that the ankle injury is notorious for kind of just being a you work it up real quick.
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You take a year off in your back at it.
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It doesn't really stop your Athleta.
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It's not like an Achilles injury or tornado cl or something that can drastically change your explosiveness or how you're able to perform as an athlete.
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I don't think it's one of those injuries personally, and I'm the complete opposite to do.
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And I think the decade is it could be warranted depending on how you look at the situation.
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I personally think that I don't I can't call a guy elite unless you have playoff success, unless you have one in M V P.
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Like there's certain things that you have to reach before you can reach elite.
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You know, like like right now you could say that Pat Mahomes is elite because of his M V P because of his Super Bowl.
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But you can't say Lamar, you can say Lamar Jackson is elite or you could say he's not elite because of that.
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M V P. He hasn't any playoff succeeds.
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Success like that's a really good example of who you can.
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Can you call him elite yet? You know, has he done enough yet that you have to do enough to really be put.
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Yeah, that that leak here is a very small tear, in my opinion.
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And But I do.
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I think he's a great quarterback.
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I do personally.
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And, like, I think you as a hater could at least admit that he is a good quarterback, you know, because lighting the statistics or they're obviously if you could make the excuse for garbage time stats, but he doesn't play defense.
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He doesn't make personnel moves.
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You could only do you know what he could dio.
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So at the end of the day, what's the the better option you did put a good scenario out there.
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Gary Gilbert goes ahead, does all that same with that being said.
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I don't think they offered Jack a long term contract this offseason anyways.
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And thank you so much for the phone finger.
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Best Carolina fans.
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Very, very nice.
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And very much appreciate.
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Yeah.
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Awesome.
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Yeah.
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Um, but yeah, I don't think he gets a long term contract this offseason unless they offer him exactly what they offered him.
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Last fear.
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And he kind of just has take it.
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I don't see it happening.
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I see another franchise tag happening.
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Um, and I mean, that's 40 something million dollars against your cap right there, so you might as well, rather, if that's your guy, you sign him to that deal.
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And if it's not, I don't think the franchise tag is the right move.
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Personally, I think you go all in or all out.
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That's how I view life.
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I think if you think he's worth 40 something million dollars a year for the franchise tag, you definitely think he's worth $40 million a year.
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Usually you just paid him 40 million this year.
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You're paying him 40 million in next year, so you clearly think he's worth that amount off from that amount for four or five years ago.
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I coming off the injury, he's gonna take that for the Security, even if the number was a little lower than he wanted it originally, Um, but yeah, like I said, if you think that this isn't a guy you want long term or you're not sure yet, then you scrap it off.
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You let him go.
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You find ways to spend that salary elsewhere to improve your team, but like if you are thinking about franchise tagging him.
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Then I think you think he's your guy and you go and pay him that amount for three years at least.
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Doesn't have to be a 56 year deal.
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Three years, you know, some meet him halfway, um, all winter off.
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That's how I see it.
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Well, you're a lot more realistic than cowboy most cowboy fans.
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I converse with a lot of my back comes from the absolute love affair that everybody has with E do love them, though I do love like Do you like That's my God, you see more realistic, Like anytime I get a lot of like Well, I don't think Dak is an elite quarterback.
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That should begin paid Russell Wilson money, which I feel is a fair take and immediately you get these people.
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He's the best quarterback we've had way.
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Can't get rid of that.
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My only thing that I could say back to when people say is he worth this amount of money? It's like when you look at Kirk Cousins contract.
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When you look at all these guys contract, it's the market that's being set and inflation.
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So you have inflation.
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So a contract that says $45 million in 2020 is nowhere close to a $45 million contract in 2010.
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So when you're comparing Oh, is this guy worth this amount of money than this guy? You do have to put some context.
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I'm not talking about your Russell Wilson, because that's true.
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But certain ones, like I hear like, Well, you know, Kirk Cousins is worth that money.
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Well, this guy's not worth that money.
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I mean, is Jack Prescott worth the same amount of money to Shawn Watson? I personally think so.
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You look at the you look at the statistics, you look at the record, you look at everything.
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They're pretty on point pretty similar.
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If anything back edges about on those things, they both have an injury history.
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Now, uh, in my in my opinion, if you're setting the market, which you just did with Watson, I think Dak fits right in there.
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If that's your guy, I think that amount of money is fair.
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Pat Mahomes was not a market center like that was it goes Pat Mahomes, the Grand Canyon and then everybody else like is a 10 year contract.
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The thing in the NFL.
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No, it's not a thing in the NFL 10 year contract mortgage guaranteed money than you've ever seen in the history of football.
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That is because you're locking down the Messiah like this guy won a rookie of the year, an M V P.
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And then it's Super Bowl like What the **** more can you ask for from a man? And you have him at his absolute youngest right now? E like that.
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You don't You people are like, Well, if there is a market, it's a market inflation.
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You Pat Mahomes like bro don't even talk that the homes in this conversation right now, like I'm a Cowboys fan.
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But like you just have to remove the fact that that signing happened but like that's not going to affect the market like that's his own market.
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The only person that will get close to is Lamar Jackson.
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I don't think he even touches that well, no, and Pat Mahomes can't that contract.
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Like you said, it can't be counted because it's just a perfect storm of cir***stances.
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Casey, I wasn't in on the conversation because I'm just a redneck in Iowa, but I'm assuming it was something like, Hey, Pat, we want you to play for Kansas City for the rest of your career.
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So what number do you want on a 10 year deal? And you gave them a number.
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And they said, Okay, uh, I really think that e I really think it was more of a blank check and was just like here, man, you just you write what you want, and we'll tell you if we got in the budget or not.
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And if we don't, we'll make it happen.
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Like, be really.
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And the thing is, when you when you give player that option two, here's a 10 year contract.
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Ask for whatever you want.
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The guy is not going to be like Give me 90% of the salary cap.
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I want it all.
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You wanna like you just tasted what a Lombardi tastes like.
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You know how many more championships that man wants? He wants another 10 in that 10 year contract like he wants to win it every year.
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So for him to be selfish and ask for more money than it would allow them, you know, that would be ignorant and small minded of him, because he would be limiting his chance of success.
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Because what happens when you know you don't draft well for a year or two? You don't have a Clyde Edwards Hilaire that falls in your lap.
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Tyronne Matthews leaves because he demands a contract. Chris Jones.
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Like when that contract done, can you afford to get them all again? If Pat Mahomes asked for an over inflated contracts? No way you're gonna happen.
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The worst defense family trying to outscore each team.
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But he's a smart man, you know.
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He did ask for a number that left them flexible for years to come.
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Not like they're going to be the heaviest cap space team like That's not even close, but they'll be mid tier every year.
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They play their cards right, and they know that they got their guy.
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And now you've got quite Edward Teller on a rookie contract.
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That's another few years like you got a wide receiver factory there like their their offense.
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So set this point.
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It's just how do we make the defense better and better and better than what it takes that pressure off Pat Mahomes, you know? Yeah, it seems like there's no ever since they lost tyrann. Matthew.
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There's like no all star in the defense.
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There's good players, but yeah, not signed to the big contracts for a few years.
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Or mostly like two year deals, if I remember it.
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Yeah, Doctor, I couldn't tell you without looking it up.
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Mhm back together.
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It's big enough.
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But I really wanna mention Garrett Gilbert because I know you were a big fan of him.
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I just like for me.
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I think what he's shown that he belongs in the league is the backup.
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And I think that says a lot for a guy that was just playing in the XFL.
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He I think I think his feeling is like Case Keenum.
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You know, I think I think that's fine.
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I think you're gonna have a serviceable career for your whole career case. Keenum.
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Maybe even like Ryan Fitzpatrick, I could see in the E.
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That's not a problem to me.
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You gotta chase Daniels, one of those guys.
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Josh McCown.
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You know, so many guys that you knew when you had a backup, you weren't screwed.
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You know, I think that's how your view Gary Cooper is a really run gaga is down there dead as wayside until we've seen possibly the ST not not New Orleans saying, but the actual ST guarantee over if he can win some games.
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And there's believing that there's still a chance I could take the East.
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Oh yeah, the East is wide open.
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We're talking to six one, keep one.
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And if they if they can win, they have a shot 13 games.
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If the saddest division in the history of football, it is so sad because of the fact that he like the fact that we've been talking about the Cowboys having a chance to win this division is out of this world.
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You have the Rams, who are pretty much struggling for contention right now, and the Seahawks and all these teams in that division.
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And then you look at us and it's just like any of them would be clinching in the next week.
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You know this division, like it's absolutely absurd how you could be like a game away from competing for the division or a game away from the number one pick in the draft.
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Like I don't think that's ever been a thing, the NFC least.
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Yeah, it's I couldn't even tell you like a single, you know, even Carson Wentz, Daniel Jones.
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Whoever had they decided to start in Washington, nobody really shows ourselves that they can leave the team.
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Daniel Jones is one.
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What is it? Four games in his career, and three of them were against the Redskins or the Washington football team.
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Whatever you want, he's he can't.
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He literally can't beat anybody with Washington.
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Daniel Jones is not the answer.
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He is not the answer.
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I don't see it, but I really got here.
00:14:01
Carter that with, Oh, sorry, he lost his security billion.
00:14:06
Get wind sock.
00:14:07
Juan Barkley went down and that hurt him a lot.
00:14:11
He didn't hit that.
00:14:12
We need him and you got that old line that is really rough to like.
00:14:16
They got injuries on top of really having a really bad online.
00:14:19
And it's just a mess, like he has more turnovers in the history of football in your first two seasons.
00:14:24
Daniel Jonas like like seven e could be wrong, but I swear I seen a picture earlier today and said he had 17 interceptions.
00:14:36
It's the fumbles.
00:14:38
Two.
00:14:39
It's the fumble.
00:14:40
So he had six. I think he had 16 fumble last year.
00:14:42
Thanks last week, the prop bet for Daniel Jones having a turnover was like negative 1 70.
00:14:50
It's bad.
00:14:53
It's a given.
00:14:54
Yeah, it's like the guy's gonna fumble or thrown interception at some point.
00:14:57
Like like he's gonna look good to at times, like he'll be like, Okay, like he's got a good drive going.
00:15:02
They'll throw a red zone pick and you're just like, Oh, man, like we knew it was coming like we knew it was coming and they just benched golden tape.
00:15:09
They didn't even have them fly to the their last game.
00:15:13
They said it was an effort thing like That's Golden Tate, a distinguished veteran, one of the top slot receivers in the last decade.
00:15:21
And he's not even trying what the Giants like.
00:15:24
E think that's an organization thing.
00:15:28
I think he's just like Joe Judge.
00:15:30
You were a special teams coach a year ago, and now you're a head coach trying to tell me what to do.
00:15:35
You were a special teams coach a year ago, like stop trying to act like you know everything.
00:15:41
You ain't mention the young Golden Tate and you throw in Sterling Shepard.
00:15:45
You know Darius Layton, who is? I love.
00:15:48
He would rather get two touchdowns in the game or he blanks for one catch.
00:15:52
Five yards.
00:15:53
And he's done.
00:15:54
And it's just, sadly, had him on my fantasy team.
00:15:57
I have him on a lot of fans.
00:15:59
E have two teams e Luckily, I didn't take on the second one S o I definitely I digest a lot of content.
00:16:10
I'm lucky enough that my job I have podcast playing in my ear about nine hours a day.
00:16:15
So I think a lot of the things with Golden Tate to is the Giants team.
00:16:21
Preseason seemed really high on Joe Judge coming into the season.
00:16:25
And they seemed like they had really high expectations.
00:16:28
And with where they're at now, I mean, tape might just be, like, just over it, you know? Like, what the **** happened, right? No, I agree.
00:16:38
I could see like that.
00:16:39
That could definitely be the effort problem.
00:16:40
There they were.
00:16:42
Okay, I Giants fans were writing high coming into the year, so Yeah, I got a call the NFC East now.
00:16:48
I gotta you win the division, guaranteed.
00:16:51
I got a question.
00:16:52
So if you're the Giants.
00:16:53
Obviously, you're probably gonna get a top 10 pick, you know, guaranteed.
00:16:56
Maybe even top five at that point.
00:16:59
What's your move? Are you guaranteed locked in Going for a quarterback looking for your next guy? Do you think, Joe Judge give Daniel Jones another year and misses this opportunity with Take One out to take for a pick? Like, What do you think they're going to do? Because I think they're one of the more intriguing situations.
00:17:15
I think the Redskins are sorry the Washington football team as well.
00:17:19
You know Haskins, isn't there guy? Kyle Allen just broke his ankle.
00:17:22
I don't think he was the guy either.
00:17:23
Got Alex Smith gradual.
00:17:25
Alex Smith out there, you know, Do they guarantee a quarterback pick like, I think, the NFC East besides the Cowboys? I don't think the cow, I think you have to go with the guy you have there signed back to a franchise.
00:17:38
Tag that or if not, you go for a quarterback.
00:17:39
Later on, they got back in the fourth round.
00:17:41
They don't go on draft quarterbacks first overall, like that's not a Cowboys way of drafting.
00:17:46
Um, but I think I think that not when they have one contract.
00:17:50
So Washington and the Giants, Is it a guarantee that they're going for a quarterback on the first Giants? I say, Yes.
00:17:58
Washington.
00:18:00
I feel like there it depends who who has the worst record.
00:18:05
I'm saying the giant through that with the worst record.
00:18:08
They're taking the Cube.
00:18:09
Then that pushes Washington and think about it.
00:18:12
And I feel like they have to give Haskins another year, right? You think so? They already banks.
00:18:16
Task is I think I think Askins is done down there.
00:18:20
That that's the one wrinkle I see.
00:18:22
It is where what happens with Haskins because personally, it just it really seems like Riviera does not want him.
00:18:31
I don't think so.
00:18:32
I don't think he wants him it all on.
00:18:34
The thing is, I think this is more of a personal problem for him because of the fact that you have the old regime.
00:18:39
You have all these coaches, all those personnel that were a mess, the Washington football team of the mess.
00:18:42
Um and they didn't really love his demeanor.
00:18:45
They didn't have all these things.
00:18:46
They weren't sold on him.
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And then now you bring in pretty much brand new regime.
00:18:51
Pretty much everything's new, they say.
00:18:53
Okay, let's give this guy a chance because we drafted him so high and they don't just pull them, they pull him quick.
00:18:58
They don't make any public comments really about it.
00:19:00
And you see photos of him at practice like folding his arms like 10 10 10 ft away, disconnected and straight.
00:19:09
The third string I have to go.
00:19:12
Do not collect $200.
00:19:13
You are no third string, I think.
00:19:15
I think that's a moment where they're like we're done with you.
00:19:17
And But the thing is, I don't think that smart, if you're if you're Washington, if you just kind of tanked his trade value, you kind of just like.
00:19:24
But I think it might have been so bad now that let it's now less of a realistic like who trades for Dwayne Haskins? I think he gets released.
00:19:32
I truly think at some point he just gets weighed, just released and a team will pick him up for sure and take a chance on him to start him as a backup and maybe he gets a chance or two.
00:19:45
But I don't even think he has a trademark it anymore.
00:19:48
You can't even get a Southern.
00:19:50
You could get 1/7 for him anymore.
00:19:52
But back to the Giants, I think Daniel Jones gets another year because this is this is only This is the second year he lost his running back support.
00:20:01
He does not have an old line.
00:20:03
I would see them, you know, say Kwan's back next year.
00:20:07
Get him Samo line protection because I haven't watched a lot of Giants games, but the games I've seen, the reason a lot of the reason is getting so many turnovers is he's just trying to do so much, you know, trying to make throws with guys wrapped around his knees has he's falling.
00:20:23
You right, you know, So I would not be surprised to see Daniel Jones playing for him next year.
00:20:30
And I Who are you going to draft born? Right? You are gonna get Lawrence.
00:20:38
That's probably to get Lawrence.
00:20:40
The Jets were gonna get Lawrence or the Jags, one of the two.
00:20:45
Whoever doesn't get Lawrence is probably gonna get Fields and who's after that? I think it's a guarantee that it's gonna be feels to the Jags that to Lawrence to the Jets at one.
00:20:58
And then after that, you got Cowboys, probably at three.
00:21:02
I don't think they take quarterback there.
00:21:03
I think they go online or defense or potentially move back.
00:21:07
And then after that, you know, it's it's gonna be a lot of teams looking for quarterbacks on that topic team.
00:21:13
So I don't I agree.
00:21:15
I think I agree with Garrett on this.
00:21:16
I don't think the Giants abandon ship with Daniel Jones yet, but I think that the Redskins have no answer right now because Kyle Allen already wasn't that guy.
00:21:24
He just had that report with Rivera from Carolina.
00:21:27
He gets injured.
00:21:28
Are you waiting for Kyle Allen to come back like that? That's what you're waiting for is a fan base.
00:21:33
So Carl Allen, back next to you guys, just wait.
00:21:35
You just wait.
00:21:36
Like no one is saying that like not one person is sold on Kyle Allen being their franchise quarterback.
00:21:42
Like what he did in the 23 games that he played was the same as what Alex Smith has been in the game and a half that play.
00:21:49
So it Z a mediocre quarterback, good you know, I to be honest, that, you know, I'm not always a mediocre.
00:21:57
He's definitely good.
00:21:58
He's starting right now, but, like he, how good is he? I think I think Garrett Gilbert can have the same career.
00:22:03
Is Kyle Allen no problem? Given the opportunities that Kyle Allen tag, you know, I don't think there's much of a talent difference between them and stuff, you know, Not it's not a not gone, either.
00:22:14
Them, either.
00:22:15
It's just shows how far away Kyle Allen is from being a distinguished starter in this league, that you wait to come back off injury.
00:22:22
You know, I really don't love a healthy Kyle Allen, let alone a callin coming off an injury.
00:22:28
That doesn't sound like a winning recipe for me.
00:22:30
You know, I think the best much, much more likely to draft a Q B than the Giants.
00:22:35
Yeah, maybe not even first, either.
00:22:37
There's a lot of good quarterbacks distract.
00:22:38
You can get a Mac Jones from Alabama in the second round.
00:22:42
Yeah, exactly.
00:22:44
A fall.
00:22:46
Yeah, you big that guy, man.
00:22:49
I still have my old Instagram page.
00:22:51
He actually followed it.
00:22:53
I think he still follows it, but I got locked out of the thing.
00:22:55
You can't **** wait a couple of times a season and stuff.
00:23:02
That's the whole fan base.
00:23:04
Hey, them.
00:23:05
When the tour got benched on, that's whenever I started getting into him.
00:23:09
I'm like this guy has the time.
00:23:11
He had, like 28 K fall or someone he's not gonna answer some dude who has, like, 700 forward.
00:23:17
I said, I d and I'm like, I'm glad to see you get in this episode and said, Thanks, man.
00:23:21
I appreciate them like that was ****.
00:23:24
Well, it is the fan of you Hot take on Alabama.
00:23:29
Nick Saban cannot win with a great quarterback.
00:23:34
Have we seen when he's had a bad quarterback, though.
00:23:37
Great, great.
00:23:39
Why he does.
00:23:42
He does not win national championships when he has a great quarterback.
00:23:45
He won two national championships when he has a Mac Jones who's been great.
00:23:49
I'm just I'm just curious like like to to a was considered top tier top of line, going to be a great quarterback.
00:23:55
And they didn't before that who wasn't like McCarron and yeah, Karen, that's another guy I love.
00:24:02
Well, yeah, they're all good quarterbacks but it seems like it gets an elite really hopped, hyped up six star, I realized six stars not really thing, but just to say like a six star level Q B recruit.
00:24:16
They end up losing.
00:24:17
They don't go to the N.
00:24:18
C or they lose it because he just focuses so much on the rest of his offense.
00:24:25
You know, they always have great receivers.
00:24:26
They always have a great old line.
00:24:28
They always have a good defense.
00:24:31
So you give you give him a two and he doesn't.
00:24:35
His game plan doesn't work.
00:24:36
He just sticks a quarterback like Mac Jones in there and not to disparage Mac Jones.
00:24:40
He's a very good quarterback, but he's not a six star, immediately immediate celebrity level that like to awas.
00:24:50
That's true.
00:24:51
I mean, I definitely think to ADDers cards stacked against him, though at the end that with with the injuries, though, you know, yeah, but all right.
00:24:59
But I don't think they ever had a great quarterback with saving.
00:25:02
No, he wins with good ones, and they just have really good receivers and really good old line.
00:25:07
That zone over read of Alabama Cube.
00:25:10
Hey won the natty, but look at what he had around him.
00:25:15
Yeah, that line is like freaking Easter Island heads.
00:25:19
You can't get through concrete.
00:25:23
I want you to, uh, and then do you get the short end of the stick and, like, snap your ankle, which is one in a million If you're in Alabama Q. B.
00:25:32
You know he was dull through it.
00:25:34
It's not hard to put up really good Q B stats when your old line gives you eight seconds of play to throw the ball and your receivers are all seconds faster in the 40 than the DB is trying to cover up.
00:25:46
I mean, so, But, yeah, talk about quarterbacks.
00:25:53
So what are the Bear's gonna dio? Yeah, trap after Iraq, I can see I could see them going for a guy like Zach Wilson from B Y u E.
00:26:05
I think that would be a guy that can run a Nagy offense pretty well to be on it.
00:26:10
That's that's a lot of what I'm hearing.
00:26:12
A lot of guys you know, I'm close to Chicago.
00:26:15
That's the closest Well, not the closest.
00:26:17
But that's where I get my That's my protein fandom and a lot of Zach Wilson talk, and he's probably gonna be there at 16, which is where the Bears are projected to be.
00:26:27
I really I really do like him.
00:26:28
I think he's and he's he's pretty raw to like He's got a lot of room to grow as well, and he's so young, like, I think he's going to be really good in the NFL.
00:26:36
People don't aren't sold yet because of his size.
00:26:38
But, I mean, I don't think size matters.
00:26:40
Looking Kyler looking, you know, rough like I think as long as you're a good quarterback with a high I Q like you can perform in this week.
00:26:48
You know what size gonna do.
00:26:50
Nick Foles is 64 getting eight passes a game batted down.
00:26:53
So sighs like what it used to be for quarterbacks like there's some, like decent that, like mid side averaged.
00:27:05
You quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield.
00:27:08
What's he like? 5 11.
00:27:09
Russell Wilson's 5, 10, 10 years, I believe 5 10, but that prototype 65 quarterback like Big Ben, it's kind of I'm not gonna say it's out the window, but it's nowhere near fall short because it used to be 10 years.
00:27:24
It's true and it's cool because I heard someone giving me the Lawrence over Fields debate the other day and they were like, Well, the guys 66 compared to like 62 and I was like, That's not the argument that I would use like Hawaii's better but like definitely like it is rare to see the 6 ft six towering quarterback with that for the Nowadays, I think it's more of like six threes, like what you're looking for for a quarterback, realistically nowadays, and you're okay if they go 6 ft or a little bit below.
00:27:50
If they have that kind of I Q and mobility in the pocket, like I think football is different.
00:27:55
That was a lot of more motions.
00:27:57
There's a lot more, you know, decoys and a lot more stuff going on instead of just lining up under center and just you being the one quarterback that does things back in the day.
00:28:06
But I think it's different and the D lines have changed, too.
00:28:09
I don't care if you're 68 when you're deep, when the D lineman or 6 10 with 3 ft long arms, you aren't gonna throw over him, even if you are, even if you are our 6668 eso, you still got throw around them.
00:28:24
So yeah, I don't know.
00:28:26
That's withdrew. Brief that at the beginning.
00:28:31
What do you guys on next spring? Lee? Yeah, really? Definitely.
00:28:37
Kevin Anderson's been hot.
00:28:39
That's our boy, Kevin Anderson.
00:28:41
That is my dude.
00:28:42
Since freaking day one.
00:28:45
I know you're upset about the stat questions you have to make, but like Garrett said to me earlier, like if you want correct stats, you want the in depth ****ysis Moose is putting out like, three articles a day.
00:28:55
Right now, he's going absolutely absurd.
00:28:57
So he's got all the correct stats, all the stuff of the players and stuff.
00:29:01
So definitely the guy you wanna be checking out right now.
00:29:04
Actually, I got a like from Kevin Anderson on Twitter, so I was pretty excited about that.
00:29:10
I put up a deal about TSL being bad at math.
00:29:14
They needed to watch themselves because Kevin Anderson would call him out.
00:29:17
So yeah, he didn't like it.
00:29:20
I think he wanted retweeted it to s so that was pretty cool.
00:29:26
I did definitely.
00:29:27
I'm really enjoying watching the spring leg.
00:29:30
It's pretty solid football, a lot of exciting place.
00:29:34
I'm gonna blank on his name.
00:29:35
Who's the return guy? Moose? Back to back for, uh, Matt ***ton.
00:29:41
Yeah, ***.
00:29:42
And had had a punt return walk off punt return to win the game last week and then ran the opening kickoff back this week.
00:29:50
And he's just a good guy.
00:29:51
The first thing he put on Twitter after the game this week he put on there.
00:29:55
He's just It was a clip of him.
00:29:57
Run the kickback and he just thanks to all my guys for the great blocking.
00:30:02
I just I like seeing you won't see that you love the same one.
00:30:06
Players are able to give credit to everyone else around them, especially that shows leadership to me like maybe I made a big play.
00:30:13
I'll be on SportsCenter tonight, the like, while I have the time to speak on it right now, I'm gonna shed the light on the other people That made it possible.
00:30:19
I think that's the way that you got to go about it.
00:30:22
Yeah, definitely.
00:30:23
Mentality another guy.
00:30:26
He's all right now.
00:30:27
Brian Scott on on the right.
00:30:30
Yeah, I'm on the rap, you know? Yeah.
00:30:33
Garrett knows, too, for the people who were here.
00:30:36
Don't know.
00:30:37
I talked with them a decent amounts to and did an article with them and had some quotes.
00:30:41
He's already got a touchdown.
00:30:43
And, like, 50 yards just in the first drive.
00:30:48
He's got off tonight.
00:30:50
Are you watching that? Live right now? Yeah.
00:30:52
TV is literally right behind.
00:30:55
What does that mean? FF fs one, right? Yeah.
00:31:00
I didn't realize that they that they had games on live today.
00:31:04
Yeah, they changed it because the jealous tres and elephants had the I don't think they had the four fit with the jealous, jealous Ter said they would forfeit because they said they quote unquote didn't have enough time to practice.
00:31:17
Even though the conquers were, uh, they didn't even know they were gonna play yesterday until five hours before the game.
00:31:23
They came out and put up 42 points.
00:31:27
And that's the reason the jousters air now 13 Why? So why don't they know that wasn't like Kobe related or just a schedule change or something? Yeah, Elster has something to do with Kobe protocols.
00:31:40
They said one of the guys like had it turned out to be a false positive, I believe they said one of the gel, Istres had a positive run, a test and they had the, you know, wait 24 hours and give him another one.
00:31:54
This and that.
00:31:55
And apparently it's gone now, I believe, because the league just said up the reason it was the game never happen because jester so they didn't have enough time to practice.
00:32:05
They made them forfeit, which I I like.
00:32:07
I called for that, like, way back when Kobe was saying the MLB, It's like I'm sorry this is a screwed up season.
00:32:14
And But if you have positive cases and you can't play the game, call it a forfeit.
00:32:20
Move on with season.
00:32:21
Yeah, no, I agree.
00:32:22
I think, honestly, we're all dealt the same hand.
00:32:25
Obviously, some people are more unlucky than others, but it's very professional athlete right now and whatever league like you need to be locked down besides staying team, doing your thing going home coming back.
00:32:37
Like if there's a break out for a team to where it's not just one isolated guy like you're clearly going against protocols or you're not able to figure out a way toe, Keep your team healthy.
00:32:48
Like I think that's a you problem, in my opinion.
00:32:51
The ST Louis Cardinals, which I hate ST Louis anyway.
00:32:55
But they all went and partied at a casino like the first week of the season.
00:33:00
I think I played doubleheaders the rest of the time.
00:33:05
No more of that in the beginning.
00:33:08
Yeah.
00:33:09
Did you even have, like in basketball like Lou Williams stopping by the strip club way back to the bubble, Like to get wings? It's like, Bro, you were.
00:33:17
You know how outlandish this idea is to keep this league going right now anyways, and you want to put it on the line by going to get ****ing wings in Atlanta like coming stripper like just the icing on the cake.
00:33:29
Grow a strip club.
00:33:31
It's like, Dude, I mean, the wings looked amazing.
00:33:33
Don't get me wrong.
00:33:34
I looked up. I looked at the menu.
00:33:37
It looks phenomenal.
00:33:38
So, like, let's talk. Let's talk. Get that twisted.
00:33:40
But at the end of the day, like cir***stances like its timing lose like you got the league on your hands like if that If that went wrong up on you, dog.
00:33:48
Hey.
00:33:49
Made a mistake, and he was sick in too much about the breast and the thighs instead of with Yeah, backtrack a little bit cause I got pulled up.
00:34:03
Brian Scott last week.
00:34:04
17 of 37 220 yards, uh, passing Tedy and a two point conversion passing TV.
00:34:11
You'll take that.
00:34:12
Yeah.
00:34:13
So he showed up.
00:34:14
He made our honorable mention list for stat leaders.
00:34:18
So I was Yeah.
00:34:20
Uh, the other one.
00:34:21
The clay odd Bethel Thompson, 25 of 36 322 yards and two TDs.
00:34:28
That's falling out.
00:34:30
Yeah, you forgot how to place.
00:34:33
But last year was good.
00:34:36
All right.
00:34:38
Last night, I believe he threw three picks and had just one touchdown.
00:34:47
Yeah, it was.
00:34:49
It was It wasn't good.
00:34:51
It was not pretty.
00:34:53
And he's a guy who's playing pro in the CFL for a couple of years to, But I was glad that they put in, uh, aviators put in the back of Georgia.
00:35:02
Bowen, whose I'll give a spoiler.
00:35:05
He'll be one.
00:35:06
He's a guy that I talked about earlier.
00:35:08
It's gonna be in my next article that gave me a couple of quotes.
00:35:12
He is He's had a hell of a story.
00:35:14
He went to play in Serbia before he came to the spring lead.
00:35:17
They play football? Serbia.
00:35:19
Yeah, pro football in Serbia.
00:35:21
And he His team made it to the, uh, like football.
00:35:24
Football, not soccer.
00:35:25
Yeah, like, you know, like, Okay, what are back? Prescott football E on the dirt.
00:35:33
I'm not just looking like schoolyards.
00:35:36
It's crazy to watch the highlights.
00:35:38
His team made it to their version of the Super Bowl.
00:35:43
Okay, we're gonna I'm gonna have to check that out tonight, because yeah, Serbian football that intrigued, he played on the Blue Dragons, the team that beat them with a wild boars.
00:35:54
They got some good names.
00:35:57
There's another one.
00:35:59
I think there's another one like the golden lions or something.
00:36:03
Would you like to be? I feel like if we cut ourselves short, like I think for us in America, we stop when we come up with one team name like let's just come.
00:36:12
What we do is like just the name Like, why aren't we adding descriptive adjectives with, like, every other like I want? I don't want this the Lakers like I want.
00:36:21
The ferocious Lakers were like, I want something like you go to Korean baseball.
00:36:27
They got, like the fighting blob.
00:36:29
I'm like the only thing I could think of that, like it can resemble that in America like Notre Dame, which would be like fighting Irish like there we go like we owe, like, we'll just call them the Bulls.
00:36:40
And it's like, Come on! Like the Raging Bulls, which sounds so much more fun like E just sounds more tough, too.
00:36:50
There's no real, like adjective change all I could think it was fighting Irish.
00:36:55
I was trying to University of Louisiana Lafayette, the raging Cajun.
00:37:00
Yeah, I e one that to Coastal Carolina beat to get it right.
00:37:06
Yeah, because, yeah, because they came out and beat Iowa State Week one.
00:37:12
So that was definitely L and play the game.
00:37:15
As far as I'm concerned so far from the Spring League this week, Kevin Anderson threw a pick, tackled the guy and recovered the fumble all in the same place.
00:37:25
Tell you the bowler, that's the efforts that that you want to see.
00:37:29
Like if I'm looking at another league and I'm looking for guys to give a chance to just practice squad or just to give that.
00:37:34
Like, I'm looking for a guy.
00:37:35
That not just how how he plays one on his good plays, when he makes those moves like he throws a pick and you see a guy sprint that far and knocked the guy down and get a fumble and get that ball back like that's the heart of a champion.
00:37:47
If I'm looking at scouting, yeah, look a lot better than Matthew Stafford's highlight reel of him trying to make a tackle this week.
00:37:57
Oh, yeah, sorry.
00:37:58
Was Philip Rivers Yeah, laying there e kind of stop and think for a second.
00:38:04
I'm like, Maybe he's right.
00:38:07
Pulled, pulled.
00:38:08
The Daniel Jones tripped over one of the yard lines before the guy got to him and Turf Monster.
00:38:13
God asked.
00:38:15
Yeah, so, uh, one last thing on the TSL and anybody listened to the podcast last night got me and mousses opinion on this, but eso we they had a quarterback was running down the opposing team's sideline, and one of the coaches said something to him, and he proceeded to get in a fist fight with the coach.
00:38:34
If you're watching film and that's the guy's film, what are the chances you call them? Okay, keep in mind.
00:38:40
In the spring league, he's went two for 12 and an interception.
00:38:46
He's a lefty to lefty quarterback All it all again.
00:38:50
So let's get your you deserve the hate.
00:38:52
Like if if those are your stats and you're not playing deserves a you're not coming to play like I don't know, I'm a tough love guy.
00:39:01
So, like, I definitely I'm a big believer of positive reinforcement when it's needed, but I'm, like, even bigger believer and really dropping the hammer when it's needed.
00:39:11
So I think you could take No.
00:39:16
My biggest take on it was like the spring leg is to get film to show NFL scouts, and that's that's your film now, bro.
00:39:23
I'm not gonna go all into it because I did that and almost stroked out last night.
00:39:27
Yeah, yeah, that that's his film going forward now, you know.
00:39:35
What are you gonna do with that? And who is even gonna put you on the practice squad? No one? Yeah, absolutely nobody.
00:39:42
Obviously you have deserving people getting cut from rosters, let alone if you're like Oh, I'm in the spring.
00:39:47
Reagan here is my team, right? Well, I have a question for you, Moose.
00:39:51
What do you think of coal? McDonald? Because I know you were not hyped at the addition because of your boy, but still, like, what? Do them what's act like? I'm gonna act like he isn't on the conquers.
00:40:02
I'm just gonna act like he got signed.
00:40:04
Thio don't know.
00:40:05
Let's just pretend you got signed to a different team.
00:40:06
So it's not a bias tape.
00:40:09
He didn't put up good numbers in college.
00:40:11
He got drafted.
00:40:12
Seven.
00:40:13
Surrounds of the Titans. I'll give him that.
00:40:15
He's good.
00:40:17
Is he overrated? A tad bit, but probably not as much as I make him out to be is he's somebody who could.
00:40:28
He could be a practice squad guy.
00:40:30
He has the potential.
00:40:31
If he has the right coaching, he could come in and be like he's kind of comparable to C.
00:40:37
J.
00:40:38
Beth.
00:40:40
Third, he he just needed to get the accuracy down with the right coat.
00:40:43
He could easily be somebody who come in and play some games.
00:40:46
It's the athleticism that keeps him in the conversation.
00:40:49
you know, because he played in Hawaii and kept him in every game and really was just able to extend plays and keep that.
00:40:58
I just think it's what he can do with his legs.
00:41:00
That's that's in apart another guys, because, I mean, you're right, he's not the most accurate, doesn't have the strongest arm in the world, although it's pretty strong.
00:41:06
But I definitely think it's his athleticism that will keep him bouncing around professional leagues for a while.
00:41:14
If and if you find a spot in the NFL, obviously, when you have your one stop with the Titans and it doesn't work out doesn't mean that's your last.
00:41:22
But I think you said it right.
00:41:23
You know, I think practice squad for him.
00:41:25
Potentially get in.
00:41:26
I mean, look at the Cowboys of your man like you get Cooper.
00:41:29
Rush off the practice squad.
00:41:30
Garrett Gilbert coming in like you just wait.
00:41:31
You wait for your opportunity, like like you know, Garrett said to you, get the right tape.
00:41:36
You know you play right when you get to write opportunities and you just use that.
00:41:39
That's your most recent tape, and that's what people see and put scout, see, And what your staff say.
00:41:45
And you just wait for that opportunity like, Yeah, there's so many random people signing out and you get when you start with the XFL.
00:41:51
You guys know more than anyone like What was the whole point of the XFL? Not to be an official farm, Lee before the NFL, but to showcase people's skills and how good they are so that they could get that chance will be NFL when the XFL folds out of nowhere.
00:42:05
It was like 40 people that signed with the NFL within like a week.
00:42:08
Parents like it works like other.
00:42:11
These other ladies work.
00:42:13
Yeah, look at people. Walker.
00:42:15
Exactly.
00:42:16
He's backing up Teddy right now.
00:42:17
He got snapped this year.
00:42:19
Yeah, well, you if you follow XFL writers, I want to say they are.
00:42:25
We're currently average green, probably three players a week and signed to either practice squads or rosters that played in the XFL last season.
00:42:32
Like like currently as the season goes on.
00:42:36
Yeah, there was like, six of them last week.
00:42:38
It was crazy.
00:42:41
So we had Georgia Slovakia, which we talked about him on the podcast, but he was born in Italy he had.
00:42:48
He played a full season.
00:42:49
When Janikowski went down in Oakland his first game, he had a 55 game, 55 yard game winner, and next season he played for the Falcons and had another 55 yarder.
00:43:02
Hey, who's the guy that he's the guy that used to wear the Cowboys had? Or the cowboy hat Shug Bud Light sensors that the kicker didn't just last week? Castillo Castillo.
00:43:14
Hey, hey! Went two for two last week and three for three on P 80.
00:43:19
So he had a game.
00:43:21
You love to see it.
00:43:22
I definitely thought that video is like the hardest sugar, like in the entire like XFL last year.
00:43:28
It was just him, not even shotgunning, just chucking.
00:43:30
I'm like you get a gold star cracking that went and shot.
00:43:35
Yeah, well, that's why I can't wait for the XFL to come back.
00:43:39
I mean, aside from the play, and I really like some of the rules changes just the sideline reporting, hopping in on that guy where they had to cut him off because he dropped three F bombs in five seconds.
00:43:50
You know it's walking up to a guy that can't breathe because he just had an 80 yard interception return for a touchdown.
00:43:57
How are you feeling, man? E saw the quarterback red his eyes.
00:44:04
E I got some blocks e o be honest with you to like with the Rock taking it over and company, obviously his partners as well, like you're taking a product that we enjoyed very much and had a lot of entertainment value.
00:44:23
And you're adding probably the king of entertainment, like Thio.
00:44:27
Now go and leave that up death.
00:44:29
You guys like the real changes.
00:44:31
Now you like the features ****.
00:44:33
Now, like I think it's just going to go a whole step further.
00:44:36
And you've heard him say 100 times that he's not here to, like, scrap everything and start new like there's a product there that people like that just needs to be worked on and sustained.
00:44:46
I think that's the main thing is let's not working on it and more about just sustaining it because you're one and out, you know, whenever they did it in the 2000 and then you're now 1.5 an hour.
00:44:58
Sorry, half the season and out this time and Now you've got this kind of leadership in that kind of money and buying it like there's not a chance in this world that it goes one and out like this is, at the very least gonna be around for another few years.
00:45:11
But I really don't think the rock and company bought this toe to mess around and have some fun with three year or two.
00:45:17
I think they're trying to build something like, really build an entertainment entity.
00:45:21
But seriously competitive football as well.
00:45:25
Like we said, last year was kind of put together.
00:45:27
We just kind of went for it.
00:45:29
And so many people got NFL opportunities.
00:45:32
So many people died of E.
00:45:35
Yeah, you do it right? I really think this can be the unofficial official farm system of the NFL.
00:45:40
Really? I dio Yeah.
00:45:42
No, don't talking future.
00:45:44
This is one that we got into this on our first podcast.
00:45:47
Like your take on it.
00:45:48
I really I don't see the XFL competing with the NFL, but I see them maybe being a problem for the N C.
00:45:56
Double A in the future because you can you can go get paid, or you can go play for a scholarship.
00:46:04
I think we're already seeing that too, You know, I think with the XFL Not just that, either.
00:46:07
The G league in N B A and then you guys aren't the biggest back e the The league is doing something similar where it's like Okay, well, here's this program we won't pay you a lot would be like 30 to 50 d k a year, similar to what you'll get on any normal like management contract or something.
00:46:25
Lower level like it.
00:46:27
Zits enough, you know, to keep food on your table, do you? And do what you do.
00:46:30
And, um, here's that and you get to be around semi professional coaching, if not fully professional coaching.
00:46:37
Like if you're on the Raptors.
00:46:40
Like two years ago there, G league squad got Jerry Stackhouse as your coach, like you're getting.
00:46:45
You're getting hands on training from people that know what it takes to get to that next step, and you're right there, like you're right there.
00:46:53
You're already wearing the T shirt that says the team name on it and stuff like and instead of like all right, let me go to get chance of myself not get paid. Go get a scholarship.
00:47:03
Learn like you don't need to learn **** if you're If you're an athlete like that's not your concern.
00:47:08
Like you need to be uneducated person.
00:47:10
That should be on how you were raised.
00:47:12
But taking advanced calculus and accounting isn't gonna help these guys with their ****ing careers, like you're a professional athlete.
00:47:20
After that, you'll be an ****yst or you'll be a coach or you'll make money off your likeliness like you'll get endor*****ts.
00:47:27
You do these things.
00:47:28
And then, eventually, Some of these guys have other passions outside of sports that they explore, but they have such a big name from playing professionally, getting opportunities.
00:47:36
Is it hard for these guys like, I really don't think four year education for the the talent it takes to get to these professional leagues is important.
00:47:45
I really don't think so.
00:47:46
But if you're a guy that's like, I think I'm good enough to get to college and play ball.
00:47:51
I want to pay for my college.
00:47:52
I wanna pay for my dog.
00:47:53
That's the d****.
00:47:55
That's where it's like, How can I play what I love? I know I'm not gonna go professionally, I wanna focus on business or whatever it may be, but how do I pay for college through it and still do what I love for another couple years? I love that mindset.
00:48:07
But if it's I'm already getting calls from, like, the Jets.
00:48:10
And I'm like, 14 like, you know what I mean? Like, you're at that ****ing level.
00:48:13
You're standing here while everyone I was trying to talk to you is ****ing here and the wrap it around your ankles like you're not a normal person like you're not going to try and get college paid for.
00:48:22
It's how do I get to the league? How do I get my family taking care of now? How do I buy my mom a house like, That's how these guys were thinking less of.
00:48:29
How do I pay for college? So you say, Yo, here's an XFL contract for one year.
00:48:34
We almost guarantee you're going to the NFL after this.
00:48:38
Why? Why would you go to college unless you are just like my co founder Christian, who didn't have a did not want to play in the NFL, doesn't even like football anymore, like he just hates it now just because of how, what a strain it did on his on his mind and his body.
00:48:51
But he went to southeastern Louisiana and he played offensive lineman for four years and he got his education paid for.
00:48:58
He did not pay a dime.
00:48:59
He does not have student loans.
00:49:00
He loved doing it because it put his family in a good spot, put him in a good spot.
00:49:04
He got to do what he loved for a few more years.
00:49:06
But it was not his aspiration to go to the NFL.
00:49:08
He kind of was more of a realist.
00:49:10
That is perfect for you.
00:49:11
But if you know that you are a genetic break like he extremist, streamline the process.
00:49:17
My friends just go go for the bag, like **** going to any college.
00:49:22
Like I went to Arizona State.
00:49:23
You probably went to Iowa like colleges, colleges, Great e.
00:49:30
I just assumed that all the gear, but it was it was cool.
00:49:34
You know, I'm not asking myself.
00:49:36
It's an experience, but, you know, you know what you gotta do if you're in after, you know, You know what your career goals are? Yeah, Well, And the other thing with the D League XFL comparison.
00:49:47
I got a I came to tell you his name because, like a second or third cousin twice removed Assumption that I don't know, we're Dutch German.
00:49:53
So you know all your extended family, But yeah, he had, like, a 10 year journeyman career in the D League E.
00:50:00
I mean, he got paid.
00:50:02
You get paid, and you don't have to go to Australia.
00:50:05
You don't have to goto Korea like you don't have to go like you were mentioning Serbia, like, you know, like to be able to stay home.
00:50:12
You know, stay in the states, do your thing, get paid.
00:50:15
What I get paid doing service, you know, whatever I do, I run a restaurant myself.
00:50:19
Like I'm sure it's the same contractors in the league, something similar, like you live a fine life, you know, and that's it.
00:50:27
And you get to play the sport you love, like one of my best friends hating like I don't think he's good enough to go to the MLB, but like he refuses to give up his dreams like he is playing for the New Jersey Jackals now, and they actually just won the championship of their league.
00:50:41
You might go signed to a team in Cancun like **** man, if you got the contracts and you're saying, Hey, postpone real life for a little longer and keep doing what you do and here's the same amount of money to keep yourself straight.
00:50:54
I think that's the dream.
00:50:55
I think it's awesome.
00:50:56
We're not giving an opportunity right now, but if you got it, you know, keep chasing it just like your spring league.
00:51:03
I think it's like your spring league guys, you know, some of them are on the brink of, like, do I keep going and the NFL's XFL's I've you something else and, like, I just feel like if if you're there, you're on FS one playing football right now, you're close enough to keep ****ing trying.
00:51:17
That's how I feel.
00:51:19
Another thing about the spring league.
00:51:21
I'm not sure if I mentioned it earlier.
00:51:22
It's actually even more of like a something like, you know, the players say this is my dream.
00:51:30
It's actually a pay to play league.
00:51:32
I looked on the website asked if it's accurate because it was from last year, said 2100 bucks is a sign up sheet.
00:51:39
So these guys Yeah, 20.
00:51:42
, yeah.
00:51:45
And one person decides to beat up on opposing teams.
00:51:49
Coach for that money? Uh huh.
00:51:52
Yeah.
00:51:53
$2100 to get in a fight with and complete two passes out of 12.
00:52:00
Uh huh.
00:52:02
Yeah, let's not talk about that anymore.
00:52:06
Already got bad ones this week.
00:52:09
That's gonna be That's gonna be a good segment on the podcast.
00:52:13
Yeah, that was just Yeah.
00:52:15
I could never get Spotify the upload.
00:52:17
I don't know what's going on there, but anyway, that's neither here nor there.
00:52:19
That's inside baseball.
00:52:23
So not a huge basketball guy.
00:52:26
But how do you feel about MBA started in time for Christmas.
00:52:29
So you excited? Uh, I mean, it's cool, you know, obviously you want sports back, but like, I think you could tell them, um, a realist when I can be and try to I'm a big guy on player safety.
00:52:42
I'm a big guy on stuff like that.
00:52:44
So is the one month turnaround ideal for some of these guys that were just in a bubble for over 100 days competing and in very weird cir***stances, I think you're giving half the league nine months off at home to train and and live the life you want while you have have to leave coming off a month or two, his rest and extreme cir***stances.
00:53:07
So is it a fair playing field to start the league with that little of a turnaround? I don't think so.
00:53:13
I really don't. So we'll see.
00:53:15
I'm excited, Obviously.
00:53:16
Writing championship, you know? Can't complain.
00:53:18
I'm super happy with the Lakers championship.
00:53:20
I got a Dodgers championship this year.
00:53:22
I got to.
00:53:23
So I am the last person to complain right now.
00:53:25
But yeah, I mean, Lakers will be back.
00:53:27
W surprisingly, don't see LeBron play for like a month.
00:53:30
I'm serious, like you probably won't suit up for like the first one.
00:53:33
Like you're You're like 35 days off playing for a championship like you will not play.
00:53:38
You'll work out.
00:53:40
Oh, the team.
00:53:41
You'll be there.
00:53:42
But you'll see a lot of veterans that were in that bubble.
00:53:43
Just not play the first month because you know the the injury risk that you take and how good you'll be when you need to make a playoff run, it's I don't see it have just don't see it happening.
00:53:53
So really, I think a d Quiet Leonard's will really takes a bunch of time off.
00:53:57
Like all of these stars, just guys that are looking after their body, they'll be, they'll be sitting for a little bit, and it's gonna be a weird beginning.
00:54:03
I don't even know what the protocols are with fans yet.
00:54:06
I saw that like, it's gonna they're going to allow them.
00:54:10
It's gonna be like distance, certain things like that.
00:54:12
But that goes back to I'm gonna ask you guys the same question because the same thing in college NFL right now, how much of an advantage it is for certain places in cities that allow them toe Have some fans, if not all, some fans right now in comparison to a place like Los Angeles, where you want to see a soul in that stadium.
00:54:31
So is there that big of a difference in advantage while playing to be going to the Kansas City Chiefs to play football, for example? And you have half the stadium in comparison to going to play at the Rams new stadium, where there's not a person in the stadium like.
00:54:46
Is there a big difference there? Because crowd noise is only so much.
00:54:50
But, you know, look at Notre Dame.
00:54:51
They crowd stormed the ****ing field when they be cleansed stuff.
00:54:54
If you go to USC, there's not a person to stand.
00:54:56
So, yeah, how how big of an impact is that on game play? You want this one Moose, or you want me to go? I got it.
00:55:05
That may out I'm saying it's massive, even if they're you're allowed 3000 fans.
00:55:11
The teams of the You didn't have fans for the past, you know, x amount of weeks.
00:55:18
Or like we got fans here today.
00:55:19
We gotta show up, you know, just hearing like the rial crowds here just get you gun.
00:55:24
The president here in the canned audio noise e mean, sure, it's just a different a lot of man, but it's more fans and zero.
00:55:34
There's just something about live fans and just add a different aspect of the game compared to the camp crowd that was like with the world, the world Siri's like it didn't feel the same this year because it's the stadium wasn't bursting at the seams.
00:55:47
There were fans, but it wasn't like normal fans definitely make the sport.
00:55:54
I agree.
00:55:55
I think I I definitely agree, I think, for the fan experience, I think it's easy to replicate that in person because I think even like the MBA bubble, for example, like they did a surprisingly good job with the crowd noise.
00:56:07
But it was You really appreciate how good commentators are because like they get you pumped like if a commentator's good, you're really in that and if they're not, you're not.
00:56:15
And so I think like Mike Greer, he's just like, bang bang, like someone hit the game when he shot.
00:56:20
You're sitting there like at home like what the ****? Like you don't even know if there's a crowd there or not.
00:56:25
You don't even care like he just got you so excited.
00:56:27
But if I'm on the field and I'm playing the sport, I truly think there's a massive difference with having 3000 fans in comparison to zero.
00:56:36
I really think there is a big advantage and then for so for me, I mean, I'll bring you back, I guess, to the MBA thing for you.
00:56:43
Garrett, like you're coming off a month rest, with half the league having that rest the other half, just going through these crazy cir***stances.
00:56:52
And then you're gonna allow certain teams toe, have fans, certain teams not to.
00:56:56
I don't think it's an even playing field.
00:56:58
The Lakers, with no fans off a month's rest, are still gonna win two championships in a row.
00:57:03
And I don't wanna hear a ****ing thing from anybody.
00:57:05
But but still, like I I truly think its's interesting how uneven the playing field is this season, with cir***stances in comparison to to pass, I think it's even more impressive of a team coming off the bubble with no fan wins it in comparison toe arrested teem with a full stadium.
00:57:26
Yeah, well, and if it was going full stadium, I think the advantage would definitely be a lot bigger.
00:57:33
I'm not gonna say there's no advantage, but even like watching the I don't know so much about college.
00:57:39
I think that Notre Dame crowd was pretty loud, but a lot of the pro ones, there's still the crowd noises still run through the system.
00:57:45
It's not the actual crowd, so that negates some of it, but no definitely being able to look in the stands.
00:57:53
And, you know, if you're at a Bears game, even if it's only 2000 people instead 20,000 or however many that place holds, I I misspoke.
00:58:01
I'm sure it's more than 20,000, but still even looking up there and seeing 2000 people with their faces painted orange and blue screaming, that's gonna help.
00:58:09
It definitely gives an advantage to the play.
00:58:11
To the team's happens, their home home field fans there, Even if it's not a full stadium, I agree, but it definitely doesn't make a difference, because I didn't even having some fans at like, especially the Saints.
00:58:24
Everybody hated playing there because it be, Yeah, the decibel level was you couldn't hear your quarterback when you were a receiver.
00:58:32
And with 2000 fans there and the restrictions they put on simulated crowd noise, you aren't gonna have that effect, so I mean, I don't think it's a huge advantage, but it definitely help.
00:58:46
Yeah, I think when you add all these little disadvantages, though together it's It's definitely one of those words, like, you know, that doesn't sound right, you know, but it is what it is.
00:58:59
But I get what they make.
00:59:01
You want to get the new calendar as back to normal as possible.
00:59:05
That's every goal for these leagues right now.
00:59:07
Like how? How do we rush this and take a big of a hit right now is possible to get back.
00:59:13
So, like, you know, how much money then they would have lost, But they didn't play on Christmas.
00:59:17
Like if they didn't play on Christmas with all of this.
00:59:20
The TV deals that they have and the prime time spots that they have e I read something was it was a couple of million dollars that would have lost just off not playing that day.
00:59:30
I heard it was a word that started with B. Yeah.
00:59:33
No, no, you're right.
00:59:35
You're right. You're definitely right.
00:59:36
But it z crazy because I mean, it's such a business, you know? And I'm such a guy that I take over so seriously player safety so seriously, like I'm so minded there.
00:59:46
But you have to remember that it's a business like and you have to be able to go through these painful trialing the error phases to be able to figure out what works to be able to figure out how we can make these, you know, somewhat safe while making money like it's the money makes this world go round.
01:00:04
It's a really tough concept of toe fight with between what's more important between money and safety.
01:00:09
But there has to be some sort of middle ground, you know? Well, I'm gonna go a little bit tinfoil hat here.
01:00:17
Every time I do this, I put a full disclaimer in front.
01:00:19
I do not think Cove it is fake, it's riel, and it's a real thing where your mask do all that.
01:00:26
But ah, lot of this is media hype driven, and I really think that come January, the media outlook on the coronavirus is going to be a lot different than has been the last six months.
01:00:40
E.
01:00:41
And I think that will affect what they do for sports.
01:00:44
I truly hope that 2021 things that that's rather the media toning down actual numbers, you know, progressing a vaccine, whatever it is, I just hope in 2021 were able to figure out more ways to navigate our cir***stances.
01:01:00
Like are we supposed to stay inside forever and cancel everything like It's just not physically possible.
01:01:07
So how do we continue to make this work? But I think we have to be able to admit when we were wrong.
01:01:12
But I think we truly have to try it.
01:01:14
Like I said, trial and error.
01:01:15
But we can't just be like, Well, it worked for us and we did it like, but did it like, how many kids do you have? How many games do we cancel, like how much you know? Do we do this, Do that like I have to.
01:01:26
We have to be able to look at things would be like, You know, Did we get through it? Yes.
01:01:30
Where did we truly mess up, like, where can we do things 100% differently next time? Because maybe that didn't work perfectly.
01:01:37
I think that's just I mean, that's the thing with anything in life.
01:01:39
You got to keep trying and trying until you find the right way of going about it.
01:01:42
But you know, it's inevitable that we have to find ways to proceed, and if that means it dies down, because the media itself or just the fact that we find a better way to live with it.
01:01:52
Like I truly think.
01:01:53
Like we've been in this, like, you know, area purgatory for quite a while now.
01:01:59
So I think they're just needs to be, like a path forward, you know? Of some sort.
01:02:03
You know, I I don't know.
01:02:04
I know you have your your conspiracy on it and stuff.
01:02:06
I don't really have much on it just because, you know, it's science and kind of just trying to get through **** right now and keep things going.
01:02:13
But, you know, I can only hope that it does that in 2021.
01:02:16
For whatever reason, you know, I really, really for sports a combination of things.
01:02:22
Just at that, I think the narrative's gonna change.
01:02:26
I think the vaccine is gonna help, and I think we're just gonna be getting a handle.
01:02:30
And like you said about learning, I sincerely hope Kevin Warren, the commissioner for the Big 10, sees this podcast.
01:02:37
I know he probably won't, but he needs Somebody.
01:02:39
Needs to have that talk with him about learning from your mistakes because he done screwed the pooch on it.
01:02:44
It I mean, we're sitting here.
01:02:46
Wisconsin's gonna end up like 50 on the season because he just delay, delay, delay.
01:02:54
And now we have eight weeks to play eight games and there's no makeup time.
01:03:00
So you Yeah, Wisconsin.
01:03:02
They missed two, I think they for sure, miss, too. And they might miss the third.
01:03:07
And I know I might be in the minority on this one, but, I mean, I'm in college.
01:03:11
I like college to I'm more of a professional guy.
01:03:14
But, I mean, I like college, but I'm just I still feel the same way about the fact that I think it was much more irresponsible for college to do this season.
01:03:22
Interest in comparison.
01:03:24
The professionals like we're talking about professionally, the money is more, the stakes are higher and you have a bunch of adults that that is their career and their on contract.
01:03:35
If they say we want to play, they can say that because they're on contract.
01:03:40
Do they want to go at risk? Yes.
01:03:41
Did certain players opt out of their contracts and they didn't play? Yes.
01:03:45
Is college the same? If I remember, and I think it's still the same, you're a kid.
01:03:51
When you're in college, you're not considered an adult you're a kid at college, kid is what they call you because you are the responsibility of the university.
01:04:00
Your health.
01:04:01
Every single thing that is your safety is the university's responsibility.
01:04:05
You're not making money and left college changes.
01:04:07
Things obvious we barring anything like that, you don't make money.
01:04:10
They're not allowed to make money, right? Exactly.
01:04:14
You're not supposed to any of these things.
01:04:15
You don't want to get it if you want.
01:04:17
If you wanna play, then you better pay your players.
01:04:19
This needs to change that.
01:04:21
You need to now put that because if you want to keep it, how it is you are now ignorantly putting kids.
01:04:27
Who are your responsibility on scholarship? Not contract at risk.
01:04:31
We want to play.
01:04:33
I don't want to hear it.
01:04:34
Justin Fields.
01:04:35
I don't want to hear it.
01:04:36
Trevor Lords, you're 20 years old.
01:04:38
You don't have a say you play.
01:04:41
If they tell you to play, that is your job.
01:04:44
You are a first round pick.
01:04:45
Regardless, I think the fact that college in general and I think mawr especially places that care less about I'm more like the SEC in particular where they don't give a **** about Kobe, but they don't have four 100.
01:04:58
They don't have 400 people in their town like you like it's in a high volume place.
01:05:03
They're saying, **** it, they're doing that And it's like you just post going for end Canceled four games in a week and it's Wednesday.
01:05:10
It's Wednesday.
01:05:11
So it's like Like at that point, if you want to go out of your way and put your players at risk, you better have the tightest protocols you've ever seen in your life, like the like.
01:05:24
Airtight, not letting thousands and thousands of students at Notre Dame stormed the field.
01:05:30
If you give college kids the red button and say press it, go have fun.
01:05:35
I'm jamming the **** out of that button.
01:05:37
Dude, I'm at college.
01:05:38
When I was in college, I was ****ing moron.
01:05:41
I was looking for fun anywhere I could get.
01:05:43
That's all I was when I was in college.
01:05:45
Where can I get more fun today? Where can I **** something up? Like where can I burn a couch or like, just do something delinquent like eso? You're going to give me the chance.
01:05:53
During my four years of college that only come once and happens to be during a pandemic, you're gonna say, But you can go to the game with all your friends, and you have the chance to be the number one team in the nation.
01:06:03
And we're not gonna stop you from going on the field.
01:06:06
What are you going to do? You are going to storm the ****ing field.
01:06:10
You're going to get lit.
01:06:11
You're gonna go as hard as you can when you're living in the moment to your coming off that kind of life euphoria you're not thinking.
01:06:17
Oh, ****.
01:06:18
Well, CBC protocols, because you are bust into the stadium, you are going down to the field to go party on the n d.
01:06:25
Like I am.
01:06:27
I'm appalled.
01:06:28
Like it's a fact that you are allowing any students to go to game.
01:06:31
Not this play games, allowing students to go to games to with protocols looser than my ex girlfriend.
01:06:38
You're going to tell me that that is okay, like yeah, I just want to hear it from someone that telling me with logic how it's okay.
01:06:50
Like I like Give me a good one. I'm waiting.
01:06:53
I keep saying this every stream I'm on now.
01:06:55
Keep saying the same thing that no one tells me anything.
01:06:57
It's like, how is this is a good idea.
01:07:00
It's not a ****ing disaster what it is.
01:07:03
I love college sports.
01:07:04
I love sports sitting back on the selfish person.
01:07:07
But it is a disaster.
01:07:09
And you're not dealing with adults.
01:07:11
You're dealing with kids, so yeah, well, I think the most accurate take I saw the Notre Dame thing is that the storming the field battle was lost the minute they let the students into the stadium.
01:07:21
You were You were gonna stop.
01:07:24
Come on.
01:07:25
Like you're 21.
01:07:26
You just pregame three bottles of vodka in your car and you get let into a ****ing stadium.
01:07:32
But you're gonna say, but socially distance and make sure to keep that mask on.
01:07:35
And if anything happens, you're not going on the field like Come on, bro.
01:07:38
You're really gonna give me that? No.
01:07:41
The storm in the field was not a question.
01:07:43
The minute they were in the stadium, it was hauled.
01:07:45
I was like what I saw.
01:07:47
I was even mad at the kids.
01:07:48
I wasn't even like Are you guys were all ****ing this up.
01:07:50
I was mad at the state immediately was just like Notre Dame.
01:07:54
Your failing society, like it's not this kid.
01:07:59
You are like you gave him the red button.
01:08:03
I'm not in college.
01:08:04
I'm far out of college.
01:08:06
I might still jam that red button you say.
01:08:09
Oh, here's your favorite sports team.
01:08:11
Go to a game and they go beat the best team that no one expected.
01:08:14
I'm a huge Kobe.
01:08:15
Dude.
01:08:16
I may even storm the field to give me the chance.
01:08:18
Like on that hype on that drunk like Like I don't know, man.
01:08:23
You tell you were America to Well, America is the land of that.
01:08:26
You can't tell me what the ****ing dio I'm gonna do What I want my friends during right now, if you're not gonna give, like here's your box, you stay in your box.
01:08:36
There's no way to leave your box.
01:08:38
And when you leave, this is the way that you go.
01:08:40
Let's just like that.
01:08:42
You're just asking for disaster, man.
01:08:45
We'll encounter argument to that is like at some level what doesn't matter because you go back to march.
01:08:54
We are The **** has hit the fan.
01:08:59
People are losing their minds.
01:09:01
Everybody's saying, You gotta wear a mask.
01:09:03
You can't leave your house.
01:09:04
Italy is sending people home to die because they don't have room in the hospital.
01:09:10
And they send ah hospital ship to New York City to prepare for the outbreak.
01:09:15
And people are out by the thousands, shoulder to shoulder, watching the hospital ship sailed down the Hudson River because of the ongoing panda.
01:09:29
That's it.
01:09:30
That's just like, idiot, Move like s.
01:09:33
Oh, yeah, I understand where you're coming from with the storm, the field.
01:09:36
I'm not saying you're wrong, but at some point, how much stuff can we stop because you have that going on in March when everybody was losing their mind and thinking we were gonna have, you know, five million people? I'm probably I'm probably way too high on my number.
01:09:50
But there was like, some ridiculous in March, they were talking like five million people dead by now, or something like that.
01:09:56
E standing shoulder to shoulder to watch a rescue ship come down the river, for sure.
01:10:01
Know for sure.
01:10:02
I think I think sports is just something that we have.
01:10:06
That's Maurin, our face than other things. I think it is televised.
01:10:09
It's right there.
01:10:10
So, like you can see it Maurin in comparison to just something that's happening in your city, where you're like It was like 400 people out there just standing there.
01:10:18
No one knows about it because it wasn't televised broadcast and stuff.
01:10:21
So it's really it starts with us and ends with the televised meltdowns that we saw.
01:10:27
So I mean, Garrett's right, in a sense, like, have we done anything right throughout this? No.
01:10:32
But I mean, it's time to just say, Well, there's no way of stopping it.
01:10:35
**** it.
01:10:36
No, I don't think No, not trying to say. Definitely not.
01:10:39
No, no, definitely not. That's not what I'm taking from you at all.
01:10:41
But I definitely think what Notre Dame did was that what Notre Dame did was like, Well, I mean, if we're playing football, we might as well just ****ing rage, right? And like some dude that just graduated in a frat who somehow is running their athletics department was like soccer, bro.
01:10:56
Whole stadium.
01:10:57
Let's ****ing go.
01:10:58
Like hell.
01:10:59
Yeah, like let's get it.
01:11:00
Like it's like, dude like you are dealing with a lot of lives there that, like our college kids on scholarship, they're your responsibility in college kids fans that I don't know, man.
01:11:10
Well, we spent too much time on that kind of thing, But it was just appalling to see that Everything.
01:11:13
I mean, it's fun to see it for a second.
01:11:15
Or like, I missed that man like proudly.
01:11:17
Of course, like there was that part of me that was like, ****, man, what I would do right now for my lost my double, Los Angeles Lakers and Dodgers Mega ****ing parade.
01:11:27
What I would do right now to go be an idiot in the streets and, you know, be naked and go do my thing.
01:11:33
You know, you catch me just being a fool, But, like, not the time for right now, you know, it just feels irresponsible asking college kids don't think like that.
01:11:41
Everything is responsible in college, you got you got to think for them.
01:11:45
Well, man, you know, if you drink a bottle of vodka, it's such a high alcohol content.
01:11:48
You're automatically disinfected for at least a now.
01:11:50
Er it's hot enough for cold enough.
01:11:55
You're drinking, right? Brand You're good.
01:11:58
Go with Hawkeye or five o'clock.
01:12:00
That stuff will disinfect.
01:12:02
I probably you got to keep his model.
01:12:05
You could find that stuff like crude oil.
01:12:07
Yeah.
01:12:08
Shower and ever clear daily.
01:12:09
So you don't worry about me.
01:12:11
Gold disclaimer for anybody watching this show.
01:12:14
Alcohol does not.
01:12:15
Drinking vodka does not actually prevent the coronavirus.
01:12:18
We are being facetious.
01:12:20
Get holy cow much.
01:12:26
Alright, well, now that we that was a lovely rent.
01:12:29
I was impressed.
01:12:30
E that Z that might that might have took the cake on the mic knowing one from last.
01:12:37
That was good.
01:12:38
E anything, beatnik? Well, on the next day, you got time, they could verse it E O s.
01:12:47
So we got anything else going on? I think a good note.
01:12:51
That might be a good note.
01:12:52
Thio, wrap up.
01:12:54
This is fun.
01:12:55
E thinking way to walk it off, Guys An hour and 12.
01:13:00
That's the new records.
01:13:02
Not yet with no script, by the way, guys, No script.
01:13:07
Yeah, I really kind of text.
01:13:10
I said anyway, will jump on.
01:13:11
SportsCastr Perry said, Sure.
01:13:13
Give me 20 minutes and I message Garrett out of nowhere.
01:13:16
And I said, I'm going on SportsCastr, he said.
01:13:19
E, I was like, Are you inviting me or you telling me? And he's like, Well, you can come to if you want I'm like, Well, what are we talking about? He's like, I don't know.
01:13:27
We're bull****ting about sports.
01:13:28
I'm like, Let me go past my teens Grab my hat I forgot my shades again.
01:13:33
You're doing this to me.
01:13:35
I usually I usually do all my cast with shades on, so oh, that's true.
01:13:41
I do remember the last time you I do say, Tom, I do remember my my lovely wife, who was very supportive.
01:13:48
I told her that I was having to sit down Zoom call with a guy at eight o'clock, so she just came in here and ask me if I was missing my zoom call way.
01:13:56
It's like, uh, on that note on that note, we should skedaddle onto our next private zoom coal and and wrap it up for that when you guys the next podcast next to Yeah, Tuesday at nine Eastern.
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