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mhm.
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Welcome to the show, my brothers and sisters, The podcast where this power forward helped us all to power forward into a new way of seeing the world.
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Last week, I was fortunate to have my brother, Lawrence Moten, who came on the show that started off and we were talking about, you know, everything from basketball to his kids and what he's doing.
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The Promise Zone.
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So last week was more like about the ballers that play that Syracuse.
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And this week I got my boy, my man, Matt Park, who is is all about you know, he's been calling games since he's probably in his pre teens and everything, and he's obviously perfected that.
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So this was gonna be about the caller, but none other than my man Matt Park from the voice of the Orange.
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How you doing, man? Good.
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You've always been gracious with your time when I've tried to interview you.
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So I'm happy toe Hang in there and take what you got.
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I I just hope for the future of your program here that you get better ideas.
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I mean, if I'm the guest in an episode Number two, then hopefully it's, uh you know, all the way up from here.
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Well, all I know is you obviously filled yourself for the ton of humility.
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You're extremely humble, but we all know the voice of the Orange is one of the most coveted jobs in Syracuse.
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I mean, if you left that post tomorrow, you would have 1000 people were trying to get your job.
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So you have a highly cover the job.
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You're well respected in the community.
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You call so many games for us.
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That and we're in a lucky end of it that you were a program that wins a lot.
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So you've been able to call a lot of winning games and a lot of good moments for us.
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But what is your favorite moment and what's your? So let's let's dig into Matt Park, the man, the commentator, away from the game when he's, you know, game day routines.
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All that good stuff, man.
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Sure, Yeah, that's a lot.
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We kind of take that stuff one of the time, but, you know, Yeah, it's a it's a privilege to have the position that I dio, especially in my case.
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I grew up right down the road and uh, my family, You know, certainly my, you know, folks and my brothers and sisters and cousins that were big Syracuse fans and have been from Day one.
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And so I could remember, You know, growing up is a kid, and we would race home after church on Sunday if you remember John and you grew up in upstate New York to the Georgetown game was often Sunday at one oclock on CBS s, so we would go to church and then to the grocery store and get some sandwich fixings and stuff and then race home toe, flip it on at one o'clock.
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And there's Brent Musburger.
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You are looking live at the home and Brent Musburger and Billy Packer calling The Biggest game of the year and on and on and on.
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And I would listen to every game the first game of the year.
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You know, back in those days was, you know, an exhibition game against marathon oil or something on oil.
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E would be by the radio, and I would be charting it.
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And you know, what did Derrick Coleman do with Billy Owens? And you know, Coach Boeheim, which I'm sure we'll get into and time here, E always said, especially back at Manly.
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There was so much going on there.
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He could have practice in the middle of, Ah, aircraft carrier or airplane hangar or whatever, and it's pretty much fair game.
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We would kind of go into Manley Fieldhouse once in a while, the watch practice or a scrimmage.
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Back in that time, nobody was ushering you out of the building or anything like that.
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Coach didn't really mind.
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And so I remember being in high school and kind of being there where the guys were running up and down.
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And Holy cow, that's Billy Owens.
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You know that? 68691 of the best players in the country and just falling in love with those guys.
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Pearl, of course, particularly through the eighties.
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And so that got my love of basketball in Syracuse sports kind of growing.
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And then I thought, Well, how could I maybe find a way to make a living? I'm gonna have to have a job somewhere.
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I'm not gonna play center field for the Yankees, so let's find a way toe work in sports, and one thing kind of led to another.
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And here We are Nice, man.
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Nice.
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So you grew up upstate, so you're you're upstate kids, just like myself.
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And I heard you did.
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You spent some time in Rochester.
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Now, next time you're Rogers, let me know.
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We gotta go out and grab some need.
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What's your favorite food spot in Rochester? You know, it's It's funny.
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There's one.
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I won't give them a free plug.
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We haven't been there just yet, but there's there's one that I found out there is a butcher.
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Kind of, you know, guys sort of meat meat, sort of place that I want to kind of check out that I haven't made this connection with them, but it's run by a guy went toe elementary school with and whatever so that that's on the list.
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But you know what? I do The Rochester Red Wings games.
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I did a bunch of them for, you know, for 10 years, I probably did between 10 and 25 Red Wings games a year, and a lot of times it was just go to Raj and be back in my own bed that night.
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But once in a while, it spend the night.
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I love the dinosaur barbecue right there.
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I would actually say I like it a little bit better than the Syracuse one because it's an incredible setting over the river.
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I just like the building and I think it's an old train station right right there above just above the arena.
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You know, so there.
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I can't claim to be an expert in rocks by any stretch, but I do enjoy kind of getting around various parts around the state and seeing Syracuse fans in those places and and certainly, you know, folks, whether it's Rochester, Binghamton is another place where I worked in minor league baseball.
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Albany, for that matter, love getting out toe those areas because we need those people to be fans.
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And those are also people that listen to the radio, frankly, because they're they're not at every game and that type of thing.
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So love talking with that group.
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Nice nomad you were you're talking about like the access you had back in the day going to practice, which was awesome.
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I remember numerous, you know, high schools, people just come in and watch us practice.
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Now, obviously, that is different today.
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Can you talk about some other changes? that are different from my time, you know, Are your time when you first started till now as, ah player in as a commentator? Yeah.
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You know, you and I are roughly the same age, John.
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I think when you were a senior, I was a junior.
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If I can can ballpark that right, I remember I must have been a junior during the 96 tournament run because I could remember the types of things that I was doing for the student radio station and running around and and loving every bit of that.
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You know, a lot of things have changed, and the biggest thing is that technology changes everything we're involved in.
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And, you know, back in that time, the Internet was something that was just beginning.
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You couldn't have envisioned the ripple effect on all the changes that that would have and television and the way that that's produced now every game is on TV.
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Uh, you know the advantages, and I know you want to talk about this is it? Relates maybe the Syracuse football and stuff.
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The advantages that Syracuse had in the eighties and nineties is a program that was on TV a lot that diminishes a little bit over time.
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Now you're still in the You're still in great TV position, but not so much relative to other schools because that's easier to do.
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And the expectation is that every game that's played is on television somewhere that that wasn't the case, certainly in the eighties and really not even quite in the nineties on there's a lot of different ripple effects that deal with that that have come from that based on how the money is spent and shared around and how that gets reinvested back into the product and a lot of things along those lines.
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Now we're going into a wholly different era with the Impacted cove, it is made.
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And when I speak with students and stuff, I try to hesitate, because I hope a lot of these things aren't permanent changes.
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You know, in the way that we have to operate now.
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There's really no personal interaction of any kind When you talk about interviewing someone here we are on Zoom and we would be on Zoom if we were, you know, in the same house or across the street from one another, because that's just the way you've gotta be right now, so everything is changing rapidly and and hopefully some of these things aren't aren't permanent and what we're talking about.
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But you gotta kinda no matter what it is that you do, adapt and go with the flow and take the good changes.
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Sometimes things come out of, you know, necessity that there changes that you want to implement going long term and and that type of thing.
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So certainly a lot of changes, obviously, from from your days as a player to now and the political side of it.
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The empowerment of the student athlete is a different thing now.
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That wasn't talked about in your time, the social responsibility and the platform that people have there.
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There's a lot of things that certainly have changed, as they should over the course of decades.
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No doubt.
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Now let's shift gears a little bit, Man.
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Let's actually talk about some of the games.
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You've called in some of the athletes first, who's who's the best sort of you know, your most memorable athlete.
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You've covered in second what was the most memorable game and I got a venture and say it's probably the Madison Square Garden or you can game.
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But I love to hear your your answers.
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Yeah, that's absolutely my stock answer to that question.
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But if it weren't for that game, there's so many others.
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I mean, the ones that were really flooding in my mind at this particular moment and it might change if somebody else asked me in a different time.
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But the ones that are going right now, the 2016 run to the Final Four seeing the guys win those games against Gonzaga in Virginia in Chicago and next next level stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, comebacks.
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And, um, you know, holding off better teams and and that type of thing that to me, is what really makes it a lot of fun.
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And you could tell how fun it is for the fan base.
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You go back to the hotel and the lobby is just mobbed with people that wanna love up the players and show their appreciation.
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So that stuff is a blast and just kind of setting that aside for a minute.
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That the six overtime game is epic.
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I mean, the reason that I'm personally drawn to sports and I love live sports over movies, concerts, the opera, whatever is that.
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It's unscripted, you know that.
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Okay, sometimes you can have a dud.
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And, you know, Sunday Night Football was supposed to be brave Brees and Brady in this great game, and next thing you know, it's 31 to nothing.
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Okay, it's a done, but the trade off for that is any game you go to.
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There could be some sort of epic achievement or a milestone or something you've never seen before.
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And I've probably called 1500 or 2000 baseball games in my life bond.
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Some people don't like baseball. That's fine.
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But when you start there that that the game begins, anything can happen.
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And you know and that part of it to me is exciting.
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And the six overtime game is the best demonstration of that.
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That, uh, two good teams important game for Syracuse.
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Going in is the underdog.
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You know Eric Devendorf.
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It's the shot at the buzzer there that had a game stop right there.
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It would have been epic, but not quite as memorable and that the stories that you have coming out of it for decades are, you know, really exciting.
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So that one. We went up for me.
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It was my second game of the day because I have done a game earlier for a regional network.
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And as the game went on, we went on the air.
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I think it, uh, 7 30 for a nine o'clock tip off.
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We went off the air in a quarter to two s.
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Oh, it was a long a day is we've ever had, but a lot of fun.
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So let's let's talk about my former teammate Mike Hopkins, who's a coach now.
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And let's talk about Coach Boeheim, who obviously I love.
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How long do you think Coach Boeheim will stay on and coach? And do you think there's a chance that Mike Hopkins will possibly return the coach on the hill? Okay, I mean, that's a loaded question.
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It's the million dollar question that everybody wants to know, and nobody really knows the answer, but those two.
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So again, we'll take it one piece of the time with Coach Boeheim.
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Whenever he's asked that, he says, Look, I have no interest in slowing down or stopping.
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I don't think he wants to be retired.
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I don't think he wants to do anything else and God bless him.
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He's still very good at what he does, the way that they travel and the schedule.
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It can be grueling.
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There's reasons that you don't have a lot of older, more experienced coaches in the game, but he's able Thio endure it.
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He's in good physical health.
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He's in good mental health.
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He's a sharp as he's ever been his, uh, his player evaluation.
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I think when it's all done here, we're gonna look back and say, Talent, evaluation and scouting was really one of his great strength, and so he's still very sharp.
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And although this is a good game, coach etcetera.
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Um, So the stock answer certainly is through the end of Buddy Boeheim's career, which is at least two more years and maybe three.
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Given the way that eligibility is dealt with now, now you're looking at Coach Boeheim pushing 80 you know, and that's really getting up there.
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You know, does he really wanted to stay with it, so it's his job until he doesn't want it anymore.
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If I were a betting man and I would say two more years, maybe three, and then we'll see beyond that as far as my Coppins.
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I couldn't have more appreciation for my Coppins.
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If he wants to come here and coach, I'll meet him at the airport.
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I'll pick him up about him.
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Whatever he wants to Dio.
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Yeah, I don't think he'll come back.
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I think you absolutely 100% have to make him the first phone call.
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You need him to say that he's not interested anymore based on what he has going in Washington.
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Or maybe he says he is, because it could be 234 years down the road.
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So who's to say for certain? I think he is tremendous in every way.
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I think he is very well suited to be the next coach here.
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I think it would be fantastic.
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I just think that ship has sailed with his decision toe leave to the type of place he went.
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Had he gone to a mid major or that type of thing.
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Maybe, you know, there were some other opportunities.
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I think people are aware where he had interviewed for jobs in the past had he been it.
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Some of those still for 345 years, um, you know, would you care to come back.
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You know, I could see it being more likely in the position he's in now.
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His coach of the year, twice in a road is to start off his tenure in Washington.
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Anything he does there, they'll build him a statue, hear anything he does.
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His boss has already done, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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It just might make it a little bit less appealing for his return.
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But that all being said, I would love to see it. Now.
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Everything has changed.
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I wanna have you had a chance to take, get a sneak peek at the team in practice.
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How we look, there's rumors.
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I've talked to a couple of coaches that Alan Griffin's been looking good.
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How do you think the team is going to be this year? You know, it's unfortunate, John.
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It's just what we talked about with co vid.
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I've never felt less connected, never felt like I knew our teams less.
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Didn't goto one football practice this year, not one.
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Normally, I would go 345 days a week during training camp.
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I have not been the basketball practice yet.
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I think we have some.
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I think the way the mellow center is set up my plan.
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They don't know this yet, but my plan is okay.
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You guys could be down on the court.
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I'll go around in the back, hallway up the steps, and I could watch from the offices that overlook the court.
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That's my way.
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Haven't executed that yet.
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And I think you know Jerry's office and Reds office.
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They coach Graham's office.
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They all overlook the court that we could go stand up there.
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Maybe, and I'll dust.
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If whatever you need me to dio if I can start getting my notebook filled up because I love it.
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This is the time of year when football basketball overlap on.
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This is the best time for me to drop by practice, and it's usually when coaches in a great mood, he's got a lot to share and eso I might go sidle up next to him and he'll be on the exercise bike, maybe for a good part of practice.
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And that's where I'm kind of starting to really formulate what he thinks about the team and then compare notes with what I see when I watch and and eso I'm really liking to get out there.
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I want to see Alan Griffin.
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Uh, the younger I guess we're gonna have to keep their spelled a little differently.
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We're gonna have to phrase it that way.
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I'd like to see what he Newton.
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I want to see Canary Richmond.
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I want to see more ecology and then the steps he's taken forward.
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I want to see Barama.
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So it's really an exciting time of the year, and we're just gonna have to be a little more creative, I think this year to get out there and to get our field and we're a few weeks away here from that opening on the 27th.
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No, obviously being quarantined at home like we all have been.
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It's not. It sucks.
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I mean, we're not able to do live, are you? Live our life the way we normally do.
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But the silver lining in some of that is I know like yourself.
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I've been cooking a lot more.
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I picked up a couple of hobbies.
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So can you talk about some of the hobbies you've picked up or try to enhance during this quarantine? You know what I did for the first? Probably.
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I don't know.
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Five weeks, and this is really dorky.
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See this? Over my shoulder Here, Right here.
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That is a They're called brics ALS, which is like a knock off of Legos.
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That is the Carrier dome built out of, like, 3000 little bricks.
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Really? Yeah.
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And I did that with a bunch of other stadiums of stuff.
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Old standby.
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So this is we have to have a zoom backdrop, right? You gotta have this to show everybody.
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So this is this is the dome.
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What I would do is I would watch all like these White House press briefings about coronavirus on.
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Then I would build these stupid things and I've got a bunch.
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I've got this one and, you know, Fenway Park and stuff like that.
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That's cool.
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And I I must admit, you got the best backdrop for guess I've had I love all the Syracuse stuff you have back to me.
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Oh, you know, don't be afraid to send some swag.
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You would appreciate this.
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This is, uh, think that might be.
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Don't know if that's Rob.
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Konrad might be on the 44th his birthday coming up.
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By the way, my boy rob Well, 44 is gonna turn 44.
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So I thought that was kind of cool.
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How about this Right here.
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That says Jim Brown.
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That's kind of cool, right? I'm around the greatest.
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So it's a swag.
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You know, if you wanna maybe send me, like, part of the net you cut down or anything like that, I could put it back here and have a killer zoom backdrop.
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So that was one thing.
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I mean, that's super dorky, but I love part of the appeal of traveling to these.
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I love different venues.
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I love the stadiums.
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I love baseball because the venues air unique and that type of thing.
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So I was messing around with that.
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I have cooked quite a bit more.
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Because why not? You know, you could only do so much take out and you get a little more time on your hands, right? And I'm showing it.
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I've got the cove in 19.
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Uh, that I've added.
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Here, Thio demonstrate all that.
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But you know what can you dio find a way toe? Spend your time as wisely as possible? It doesn't feel like you know, I didn't sleep for six sleep in for six months or whatever I don't feel like I caught up in life is much as I should have with a six month shutdown of the real world.
00:20:10
But we made the best of it, and I don't think we're out of the woods here yet.
00:20:14
We're trying to return to some sort of normalcy, but it's definitely not gonna be normal in 2020.
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Uh, Syracuse.
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We've always been known for our sports.
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Well, one thing we're probably known for, Justus, much of our new house school, um, is the greatest Is the best communication school in the country, obviously.
00:20:33
And you're in the adjunct professor at the new house school.
00:20:36
Can you talk about some of the students you've been working with? Yeah.
00:20:40
You know, the whole story in the largest scope and the reason that, you know, those of us are attracted to new houses, the long line of men and women that have Bennett the very top of the industry.
00:20:56
And there's people's names that, you know, predate you, Jonah.
00:20:59
Maybe you're not familiar with them, but you know, the everybody knows Mike Tirico, right? Well, Mike Tirico came to school here because Bob Costas came here and Bob Costas came here because Marty Glickman came here.
00:21:12
But then a generation of other people have come to school here because off the Mike Tirico, Sean McDonough, Zion Eagles, Beth Moe, Owens of the world.
00:21:23
And now you're starting to see some of those people that are, you know, my age and younger, that air now getting to that sort of, uh, national kind of platform and guys that were in school when you were John and when I was or just behind any weekend.
00:21:39
You flip on an NFL game and you're going to see, uh, our major college game.
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And you see Andrew Catalon and Carter Blackburn and Adam Zucker and Damon, Amanda Lara and on and on and on these guys, they're slightly younger than me.
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And Jason Benetti is doing a great job, and so we're fortunate to be around Ah, bunch of really talented people.
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The university attracts them, the resource is, and opportunities are here for them to blossom, and it's a don't want to use the word machine.
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It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy here, where we've been ableto have this huge alumni network.
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The understanding is that you know, you reach back and pull up the generation behind you and help them find jobs and help them get better.
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And and that type of thing.
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And over the course now of half a century, when you really look back at it, that adds upto.
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You know, hundreds of men and women of all stripes that are out in the industry, and and that gives that sort of, you know, new House Mafia.
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Ah, fact. And there's no slowing it down.
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Awesome.
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Awesome.
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Now let's let's talk a little bit more about New House because at one point I know for a fact you were helping the MBA with some of their guys were trying to transition, taking class up at Newhouse.
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Can you talk about some of those guys and who took it serious? Who? Who's acting gotten better? Who? Who can you look at and say I'm happy that I was able to influence their career now that they're doing so well and whatever they're doing today? Yeah, it's funny.
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That's kind of a loaded question, and I'll split it right away.
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I can answer who I thought really took it seriously and was a prospect, and there's guys that have done great because of it, but it wasn't because they spent three days with us.
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You know, they they've done it on their own.
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They we might have wound them up.
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They came because of the reputation of the school.
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We gave them a good show because we like to think we know what we're doing and how to help them.
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And especially in the later years, we have, ah, tremendous facility.
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The to be honest, In the beginning, the new House facility was not very good.
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Now it isn now, you know, now it's top of the line and the opportunities toe really work through some real life type exercises.
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But you know, guys that you would really viewers Piers John, that I thought were were tremendous.
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Richard Jefferson.
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I remember walking him to the car on the last day.
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I said, Look, man, you could start doing this tomorrow on Be successful But he wanted to play more and who is walking away from that? You know, and it has turned out that he's been involved in some stuff and he's done a very good job.
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Vince Carter, who's a better player, more fun to watch than him, But he's just now going to start out, not his broadcasting career with ESPN.
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It's a little tough.
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I gotta tell you, when a guy like Rip Hamilton comes in, I mean, you know, he's got to cut that.
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He's got that Connecticut brand to him that you can't You wanna you want to say, Hey, you could head out the back door this way, buddy.
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But he you know he's another guy.
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You alright? Delivery one for you.
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Uh, you know, somebody who is still not done playing and I don't think it is going to pursue broadcasting but would do very well if he chose to Because he's so bright.
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Is Andre Iguodala on? He's gonna be successful in whatever he choose to do.
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I think he's going to go into the business entrepreneurial type world.
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But he could be a GM.
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He could be a broadcaster.
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Hey, could be a businessman.
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I think he's he's that bright and has this stuff together.
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Tobias Harris. Another example.
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Still playing.
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Not gonna probably go into broadcasting, but is a credit to the communities he's been in E s.
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I talked to his father pretty much every day since He's since me these scriptures every every day.
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So Tobias is a I mean he was raised in such an incredible house with his mom and dad and his brothers and sisters.
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They're all athletes, and he's the consummate pro.
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So shout out to Tobias.
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Yeah, you know, the program got a big boost in terms of attention because Shaquille O Neal was here.
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The biggest credit I give the shack is he didn't need to come here at all.
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And he came and he was very serious about it and listened and learned.
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And the fact of the matter is, with his charisma and his connections, he could have called up.
00:26:15
Hey, could do anything he wants in the world of broadcasting without any effort to actually be any good at it, you know? And they would still be throwing jobs at him because he's such a name and he lights up a room and that's he's got a great knack for that.
00:26:31
Then there's guys that, you know, you probably haven't really thought about her, you know, But they've got legitimate N b A jobs with teams.
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Brevin Knight, Antonio Daniels. Guys like that.
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So, uh, we've been very fortunate to have a number of folks that have been out there, and I credit them for seeking something is a second career and putting the work in.
00:26:54
And they're getting the the rewards for that.
00:26:57
No doubt, man.
00:26:58
Well, that's that's all we have for the show today.
00:27:01
Really want to thank you for coming on today, Appreciate all your time and everything in all your stories.
00:27:06
And, um, let's see what's gonna happen.
00:27:09
This he's hopefully were ableto have a season, You know, whether it's just a C c uh, um schedule or whatever we have.
00:27:18
Hopefully we're able to have some gangs.
00:27:20
Some fans take advantage of our new dome the renovations up at the dome.
00:27:25
But accused Nation baby, we all bleed orange.
00:27:28
Can't wait to see you again.
00:27:29
E Okay.
00:27:40
Yeah.
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"Power Forward" | Episode 2 w/ Matt Park

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John Wallace @JohnWallace
Power Forward w/ John Wallace Podcast

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mhm.
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Welcome to the show, my brothers and sisters, The podcast where this power forward helped us all to power forward into a new way of seeing the world.
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Last week, I was fortunate to have my brother, Lawrence Moten, who came on the show that started off and we were talking about, you know, everything from basketball to his kids and what he's doing.
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The Promise Zone.
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So last week was more like about the ballers that play that Syracuse.
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And this week I got my boy, my man, Matt Park, who is is all about you know, he's been calling games since he's probably in his pre teens and everything, and he's obviously perfected that.
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So this was gonna be about the caller, but none other than my man Matt Park from the voice of the Orange.
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How you doing, man? Good.
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You've always been gracious with your time when I've tried to interview you.
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So I'm happy toe Hang in there and take what you got.
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I I just hope for the future of your program here that you get better ideas.
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I mean, if I'm the guest in an episode Number two, then hopefully it's, uh you know, all the way up from here.
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Well, all I know is you obviously filled yourself for the ton of humility.
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You're extremely humble, but we all know the voice of the Orange is one of the most coveted jobs in Syracuse.
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I mean, if you left that post tomorrow, you would have 1000 people were trying to get your job.
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So you have a highly cover the job.
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You're well respected in the community.
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You call so many games for us.
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That and we're in a lucky end of it that you were a program that wins a lot.
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So you've been able to call a lot of winning games and a lot of good moments for us.
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But what is your favorite moment and what's your? So let's let's dig into Matt Park, the man, the commentator, away from the game when he's, you know, game day routines.
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All that good stuff, man.
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Sure, Yeah, that's a lot.
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We kind of take that stuff one of the time, but, you know, Yeah, it's a it's a privilege to have the position that I dio, especially in my case.
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I grew up right down the road and uh, my family, You know, certainly my, you know, folks and my brothers and sisters and cousins that were big Syracuse fans and have been from Day one.
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And so I could remember, You know, growing up is a kid, and we would race home after church on Sunday if you remember John and you grew up in upstate New York to the Georgetown game was often Sunday at one oclock on CBS s, so we would go to church and then to the grocery store and get some sandwich fixings and stuff and then race home toe, flip it on at one o'clock.
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And there's Brent Musburger.
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You are looking live at the home and Brent Musburger and Billy Packer calling The Biggest game of the year and on and on and on.
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And I would listen to every game the first game of the year.
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You know, back in those days was, you know, an exhibition game against marathon oil or something on oil.
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E would be by the radio, and I would be charting it.
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And you know, what did Derrick Coleman do with Billy Owens? And you know, Coach Boeheim, which I'm sure we'll get into and time here, E always said, especially back at Manly.
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There was so much going on there.
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He could have practice in the middle of, Ah, aircraft carrier or airplane hangar or whatever, and it's pretty much fair game.
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We would kind of go into Manley Fieldhouse once in a while, the watch practice or a scrimmage.
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Back in that time, nobody was ushering you out of the building or anything like that.
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Coach didn't really mind.
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And so I remember being in high school and kind of being there where the guys were running up and down.
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And Holy cow, that's Billy Owens.
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You know that? 68691 of the best players in the country and just falling in love with those guys.
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Pearl, of course, particularly through the eighties.
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And so that got my love of basketball in Syracuse sports kind of growing.
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And then I thought, Well, how could I maybe find a way to make a living? I'm gonna have to have a job somewhere.
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I'm not gonna play center field for the Yankees, so let's find a way toe work in sports, and one thing kind of led to another.
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And here We are Nice, man.
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Nice.
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So you grew up upstate, so you're you're upstate kids, just like myself.
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And I heard you did.
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You spent some time in Rochester.
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Now, next time you're Rogers, let me know.
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We gotta go out and grab some need.
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What's your favorite food spot in Rochester? You know, it's It's funny.
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There's one.
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I won't give them a free plug.
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We haven't been there just yet, but there's there's one that I found out there is a butcher.
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Kind of, you know, guys sort of meat meat, sort of place that I want to kind of check out that I haven't made this connection with them, but it's run by a guy went toe elementary school with and whatever so that that's on the list.
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But you know what? I do The Rochester Red Wings games.
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I did a bunch of them for, you know, for 10 years, I probably did between 10 and 25 Red Wings games a year, and a lot of times it was just go to Raj and be back in my own bed that night.
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But once in a while, it spend the night.
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I love the dinosaur barbecue right there.
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I would actually say I like it a little bit better than the Syracuse one because it's an incredible setting over the river.
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I just like the building and I think it's an old train station right right there above just above the arena.
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You know, so there.
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I can't claim to be an expert in rocks by any stretch, but I do enjoy kind of getting around various parts around the state and seeing Syracuse fans in those places and and certainly, you know, folks, whether it's Rochester, Binghamton is another place where I worked in minor league baseball.
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Albany, for that matter, love getting out toe those areas because we need those people to be fans.
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And those are also people that listen to the radio, frankly, because they're they're not at every game and that type of thing.
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So love talking with that group.
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Nice nomad you were you're talking about like the access you had back in the day going to practice, which was awesome.
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I remember numerous, you know, high schools, people just come in and watch us practice.
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Now, obviously, that is different today.
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Can you talk about some other changes? that are different from my time, you know, Are your time when you first started till now as, ah player in as a commentator? Yeah.
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You know, you and I are roughly the same age, John.
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I think when you were a senior, I was a junior.
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If I can can ballpark that right, I remember I must have been a junior during the 96 tournament run because I could remember the types of things that I was doing for the student radio station and running around and and loving every bit of that.
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You know, a lot of things have changed, and the biggest thing is that technology changes everything we're involved in.
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And, you know, back in that time, the Internet was something that was just beginning.
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You couldn't have envisioned the ripple effect on all the changes that that would have and television and the way that that's produced now every game is on TV.
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Uh, you know the advantages, and I know you want to talk about this is it? Relates maybe the Syracuse football and stuff.
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The advantages that Syracuse had in the eighties and nineties is a program that was on TV a lot that diminishes a little bit over time.
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Now you're still in the You're still in great TV position, but not so much relative to other schools because that's easier to do.
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And the expectation is that every game that's played is on television somewhere that that wasn't the case, certainly in the eighties and really not even quite in the nineties on there's a lot of different ripple effects that deal with that that have come from that based on how the money is spent and shared around and how that gets reinvested back into the product and a lot of things along those lines.
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Now we're going into a wholly different era with the Impacted cove, it is made.
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And when I speak with students and stuff, I try to hesitate, because I hope a lot of these things aren't permanent changes.
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You know, in the way that we have to operate now.
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There's really no personal interaction of any kind When you talk about interviewing someone here we are on Zoom and we would be on Zoom if we were, you know, in the same house or across the street from one another, because that's just the way you've gotta be right now, so everything is changing rapidly and and hopefully some of these things aren't aren't permanent and what we're talking about.
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But you gotta kinda no matter what it is that you do, adapt and go with the flow and take the good changes.
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Sometimes things come out of, you know, necessity that there changes that you want to implement going long term and and that type of thing.
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So certainly a lot of changes, obviously, from from your days as a player to now and the political side of it.
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The empowerment of the student athlete is a different thing now.
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That wasn't talked about in your time, the social responsibility and the platform that people have there.
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There's a lot of things that certainly have changed, as they should over the course of decades.
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No doubt.
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Now let's shift gears a little bit, Man.
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Let's actually talk about some of the games.
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You've called in some of the athletes first, who's who's the best sort of you know, your most memorable athlete.
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You've covered in second what was the most memorable game and I got a venture and say it's probably the Madison Square Garden or you can game.
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But I love to hear your your answers.
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Yeah, that's absolutely my stock answer to that question.
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But if it weren't for that game, there's so many others.
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I mean, the ones that were really flooding in my mind at this particular moment and it might change if somebody else asked me in a different time.
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But the ones that are going right now, the 2016 run to the Final Four seeing the guys win those games against Gonzaga in Virginia in Chicago and next next level stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, comebacks.
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And, um, you know, holding off better teams and and that type of thing that to me, is what really makes it a lot of fun.
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And you could tell how fun it is for the fan base.
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You go back to the hotel and the lobby is just mobbed with people that wanna love up the players and show their appreciation.
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So that stuff is a blast and just kind of setting that aside for a minute.
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That the six overtime game is epic.
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I mean, the reason that I'm personally drawn to sports and I love live sports over movies, concerts, the opera, whatever is that.
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It's unscripted, you know that.
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Okay, sometimes you can have a dud.
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And, you know, Sunday Night Football was supposed to be brave Brees and Brady in this great game, and next thing you know, it's 31 to nothing.
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Okay, it's a done, but the trade off for that is any game you go to.
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There could be some sort of epic achievement or a milestone or something you've never seen before.
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And I've probably called 1500 or 2000 baseball games in my life bond.
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Some people don't like baseball. That's fine.
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But when you start there that that the game begins, anything can happen.
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And you know and that part of it to me is exciting.
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And the six overtime game is the best demonstration of that.
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That, uh, two good teams important game for Syracuse.
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Going in is the underdog.
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You know Eric Devendorf.
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It's the shot at the buzzer there that had a game stop right there.
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It would have been epic, but not quite as memorable and that the stories that you have coming out of it for decades are, you know, really exciting.
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So that one. We went up for me.
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It was my second game of the day because I have done a game earlier for a regional network.
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And as the game went on, we went on the air.
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I think it, uh, 7 30 for a nine o'clock tip off.
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We went off the air in a quarter to two s.
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Oh, it was a long a day is we've ever had, but a lot of fun.
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So let's let's talk about my former teammate Mike Hopkins, who's a coach now.
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And let's talk about Coach Boeheim, who obviously I love.
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How long do you think Coach Boeheim will stay on and coach? And do you think there's a chance that Mike Hopkins will possibly return the coach on the hill? Okay, I mean, that's a loaded question.
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It's the million dollar question that everybody wants to know, and nobody really knows the answer, but those two.
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So again, we'll take it one piece of the time with Coach Boeheim.
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Whenever he's asked that, he says, Look, I have no interest in slowing down or stopping.
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I don't think he wants to be retired.
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I don't think he wants to do anything else and God bless him.
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He's still very good at what he does, the way that they travel and the schedule.
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It can be grueling.
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There's reasons that you don't have a lot of older, more experienced coaches in the game, but he's able Thio endure it.
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He's in good physical health.
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He's in good mental health.
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He's a sharp as he's ever been his, uh, his player evaluation.
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I think when it's all done here, we're gonna look back and say, Talent, evaluation and scouting was really one of his great strength, and so he's still very sharp.
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And although this is a good game, coach etcetera.
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Um, So the stock answer certainly is through the end of Buddy Boeheim's career, which is at least two more years and maybe three.
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Given the way that eligibility is dealt with now, now you're looking at Coach Boeheim pushing 80 you know, and that's really getting up there.
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You know, does he really wanted to stay with it, so it's his job until he doesn't want it anymore.
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If I were a betting man and I would say two more years, maybe three, and then we'll see beyond that as far as my Coppins.
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I couldn't have more appreciation for my Coppins.
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If he wants to come here and coach, I'll meet him at the airport.
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I'll pick him up about him.
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Whatever he wants to Dio.
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Yeah, I don't think he'll come back.
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I think you absolutely 100% have to make him the first phone call.
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You need him to say that he's not interested anymore based on what he has going in Washington.
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Or maybe he says he is, because it could be 234 years down the road.
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So who's to say for certain? I think he is tremendous in every way.
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I think he is very well suited to be the next coach here.
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I think it would be fantastic.
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I just think that ship has sailed with his decision toe leave to the type of place he went.
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Had he gone to a mid major or that type of thing.
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Maybe, you know, there were some other opportunities.
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I think people are aware where he had interviewed for jobs in the past had he been it.
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Some of those still for 345 years, um, you know, would you care to come back.
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You know, I could see it being more likely in the position he's in now.
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His coach of the year, twice in a road is to start off his tenure in Washington.
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Anything he does there, they'll build him a statue, hear anything he does.
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His boss has already done, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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It just might make it a little bit less appealing for his return.
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But that all being said, I would love to see it. Now.
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Everything has changed.
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I wanna have you had a chance to take, get a sneak peek at the team in practice.
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How we look, there's rumors.
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I've talked to a couple of coaches that Alan Griffin's been looking good.
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How do you think the team is going to be this year? You know, it's unfortunate, John.
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It's just what we talked about with co vid.
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I've never felt less connected, never felt like I knew our teams less.
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Didn't goto one football practice this year, not one.
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Normally, I would go 345 days a week during training camp.
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I have not been the basketball practice yet.
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I think we have some.
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I think the way the mellow center is set up my plan.
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They don't know this yet, but my plan is okay.
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You guys could be down on the court.
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I'll go around in the back, hallway up the steps, and I could watch from the offices that overlook the court.
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That's my way.
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Haven't executed that yet.
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And I think you know Jerry's office and Reds office.
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They coach Graham's office.
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They all overlook the court that we could go stand up there.
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Maybe, and I'll dust.
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If whatever you need me to dio if I can start getting my notebook filled up because I love it.
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This is the time of year when football basketball overlap on.
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This is the best time for me to drop by practice, and it's usually when coaches in a great mood, he's got a lot to share and eso I might go sidle up next to him and he'll be on the exercise bike, maybe for a good part of practice.
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And that's where I'm kind of starting to really formulate what he thinks about the team and then compare notes with what I see when I watch and and eso I'm really liking to get out there.
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I want to see Alan Griffin.
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Uh, the younger I guess we're gonna have to keep their spelled a little differently.
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We're gonna have to phrase it that way.
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I'd like to see what he Newton.
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I want to see Canary Richmond.
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I want to see more ecology and then the steps he's taken forward.
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I want to see Barama.
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So it's really an exciting time of the year, and we're just gonna have to be a little more creative, I think this year to get out there and to get our field and we're a few weeks away here from that opening on the 27th.
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No, obviously being quarantined at home like we all have been.
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It's not. It sucks.
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I mean, we're not able to do live, are you? Live our life the way we normally do.
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But the silver lining in some of that is I know like yourself.
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I've been cooking a lot more.
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I picked up a couple of hobbies.
00:17:47
So can you talk about some of the hobbies you've picked up or try to enhance during this quarantine? You know what I did for the first? Probably.
00:17:55
I don't know.
00:17:56
Five weeks, and this is really dorky.
00:17:58
See this? Over my shoulder Here, Right here.
00:18:01
That is a They're called brics ALS, which is like a knock off of Legos.
00:18:06
That is the Carrier dome built out of, like, 3000 little bricks.
00:18:10
Really? Yeah.
00:18:11
And I did that with a bunch of other stadiums of stuff.
00:18:14
Old standby.
00:18:16
So this is we have to have a zoom backdrop, right? You gotta have this to show everybody.
00:18:21
So this is this is the dome.
00:18:23
What I would do is I would watch all like these White House press briefings about coronavirus on.
00:18:29
Then I would build these stupid things and I've got a bunch.
00:18:33
I've got this one and, you know, Fenway Park and stuff like that.
00:18:36
That's cool.
00:18:37
And I I must admit, you got the best backdrop for guess I've had I love all the Syracuse stuff you have back to me.
00:18:44
Oh, you know, don't be afraid to send some swag.
00:18:46
You would appreciate this.
00:18:47
This is, uh, think that might be.
00:18:53
Don't know if that's Rob.
00:18:54
Konrad might be on the 44th his birthday coming up.
00:18:58
By the way, my boy rob Well, 44 is gonna turn 44.
00:19:02
So I thought that was kind of cool.
00:19:03
How about this Right here.
00:19:05
That says Jim Brown.
00:19:06
That's kind of cool, right? I'm around the greatest.
00:19:10
So it's a swag.
00:19:14
You know, if you wanna maybe send me, like, part of the net you cut down or anything like that, I could put it back here and have a killer zoom backdrop.
00:19:23
So that was one thing.
00:19:24
I mean, that's super dorky, but I love part of the appeal of traveling to these.
00:19:29
I love different venues.
00:19:30
I love the stadiums.
00:19:31
I love baseball because the venues air unique and that type of thing.
00:19:36
So I was messing around with that.
00:19:37
I have cooked quite a bit more.
00:19:39
Because why not? You know, you could only do so much take out and you get a little more time on your hands, right? And I'm showing it.
00:19:47
I've got the cove in 19.
00:19:49
Uh, that I've added.
00:19:51
Here, Thio demonstrate all that.
00:19:53
But you know what can you dio find a way toe? Spend your time as wisely as possible? It doesn't feel like you know, I didn't sleep for six sleep in for six months or whatever I don't feel like I caught up in life is much as I should have with a six month shutdown of the real world.
00:20:10
But we made the best of it, and I don't think we're out of the woods here yet.
00:20:14
We're trying to return to some sort of normalcy, but it's definitely not gonna be normal in 2020.
00:20:20
Uh, Syracuse.
00:20:21
We've always been known for our sports.
00:20:23
Well, one thing we're probably known for, Justus, much of our new house school, um, is the greatest Is the best communication school in the country, obviously.
00:20:33
And you're in the adjunct professor at the new house school.
00:20:36
Can you talk about some of the students you've been working with? Yeah.
00:20:40
You know, the whole story in the largest scope and the reason that, you know, those of us are attracted to new houses, the long line of men and women that have Bennett the very top of the industry.
00:20:56
And there's people's names that, you know, predate you, Jonah.
00:20:59
Maybe you're not familiar with them, but you know, the everybody knows Mike Tirico, right? Well, Mike Tirico came to school here because Bob Costas came here and Bob Costas came here because Marty Glickman came here.
00:21:12
But then a generation of other people have come to school here because off the Mike Tirico, Sean McDonough, Zion Eagles, Beth Moe, Owens of the world.
00:21:23
And now you're starting to see some of those people that are, you know, my age and younger, that air now getting to that sort of, uh, national kind of platform and guys that were in school when you were John and when I was or just behind any weekend.
00:21:39
You flip on an NFL game and you're going to see, uh, our major college game.
00:21:43
And you see Andrew Catalon and Carter Blackburn and Adam Zucker and Damon, Amanda Lara and on and on and on these guys, they're slightly younger than me.
00:21:51
And Jason Benetti is doing a great job, and so we're fortunate to be around Ah, bunch of really talented people.
00:21:59
The university attracts them, the resource is, and opportunities are here for them to blossom, and it's a don't want to use the word machine.
00:22:09
It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy here, where we've been ableto have this huge alumni network.
00:22:15
The understanding is that you know, you reach back and pull up the generation behind you and help them find jobs and help them get better.
00:22:23
And and that type of thing.
00:22:25
And over the course now of half a century, when you really look back at it, that adds upto.
00:22:32
You know, hundreds of men and women of all stripes that are out in the industry, and and that gives that sort of, you know, new House Mafia.
00:22:42
Ah, fact. And there's no slowing it down.
00:22:45
Awesome.
00:22:46
Awesome.
00:22:47
Now let's let's talk a little bit more about New House because at one point I know for a fact you were helping the MBA with some of their guys were trying to transition, taking class up at Newhouse.
00:22:56
Can you talk about some of those guys and who took it serious? Who? Who's acting gotten better? Who? Who can you look at and say I'm happy that I was able to influence their career now that they're doing so well and whatever they're doing today? Yeah, it's funny.
00:23:10
That's kind of a loaded question, and I'll split it right away.
00:23:15
I can answer who I thought really took it seriously and was a prospect, and there's guys that have done great because of it, but it wasn't because they spent three days with us.
00:23:25
You know, they they've done it on their own.
00:23:29
They we might have wound them up.
00:23:32
They came because of the reputation of the school.
00:23:39
We gave them a good show because we like to think we know what we're doing and how to help them.
00:23:44
And especially in the later years, we have, ah, tremendous facility.
00:23:49
The to be honest, In the beginning, the new House facility was not very good.
00:23:52
Now it isn now, you know, now it's top of the line and the opportunities toe really work through some real life type exercises.
00:24:01
But you know, guys that you would really viewers Piers John, that I thought were were tremendous.
00:24:09
Richard Jefferson.
00:24:11
I remember walking him to the car on the last day.
00:24:14
I said, Look, man, you could start doing this tomorrow on Be successful But he wanted to play more and who is walking away from that? You know, and it has turned out that he's been involved in some stuff and he's done a very good job.
00:24:29
Vince Carter, who's a better player, more fun to watch than him, But he's just now going to start out, not his broadcasting career with ESPN.
00:24:38
It's a little tough.
00:24:39
I gotta tell you, when a guy like Rip Hamilton comes in, I mean, you know, he's got to cut that.
00:24:43
He's got that Connecticut brand to him that you can't You wanna you want to say, Hey, you could head out the back door this way, buddy.
00:24:49
But he you know he's another guy.
00:24:51
You alright? Delivery one for you.
00:24:55
Uh, you know, somebody who is still not done playing and I don't think it is going to pursue broadcasting but would do very well if he chose to Because he's so bright.
00:25:06
Is Andre Iguodala on? He's gonna be successful in whatever he choose to do.
00:25:11
I think he's going to go into the business entrepreneurial type world.
00:25:15
But he could be a GM.
00:25:17
He could be a broadcaster.
00:25:18
Hey, could be a businessman.
00:25:21
I think he's he's that bright and has this stuff together.
00:25:24
Tobias Harris. Another example.
00:25:26
Still playing.
00:25:27
Not gonna probably go into broadcasting, but is a credit to the communities he's been in E s.
00:25:34
I talked to his father pretty much every day since He's since me these scriptures every every day.
00:25:40
So Tobias is a I mean he was raised in such an incredible house with his mom and dad and his brothers and sisters.
00:25:47
They're all athletes, and he's the consummate pro.
00:25:51
So shout out to Tobias.
00:25:52
Yeah, you know, the program got a big boost in terms of attention because Shaquille O Neal was here.
00:25:59
The biggest credit I give the shack is he didn't need to come here at all.
00:26:05
And he came and he was very serious about it and listened and learned.
00:26:11
And the fact of the matter is, with his charisma and his connections, he could have called up.
00:26:15
Hey, could do anything he wants in the world of broadcasting without any effort to actually be any good at it, you know? And they would still be throwing jobs at him because he's such a name and he lights up a room and that's he's got a great knack for that.
00:26:31
Then there's guys that, you know, you probably haven't really thought about her, you know, But they've got legitimate N b A jobs with teams.
00:26:38
Brevin Knight, Antonio Daniels. Guys like that.
00:26:41
So, uh, we've been very fortunate to have a number of folks that have been out there, and I credit them for seeking something is a second career and putting the work in.
00:26:54
And they're getting the the rewards for that.
00:26:57
No doubt, man.
00:26:58
Well, that's that's all we have for the show today.
00:27:01
Really want to thank you for coming on today, Appreciate all your time and everything in all your stories.
00:27:06
And, um, let's see what's gonna happen.
00:27:09
This he's hopefully were ableto have a season, You know, whether it's just a C c uh, um schedule or whatever we have.
00:27:18
Hopefully we're able to have some gangs.
00:27:20
Some fans take advantage of our new dome the renovations up at the dome.
00:27:25
But accused Nation baby, we all bleed orange.
00:27:28
Can't wait to see you again.
00:27:29
E Okay.
00:27:40
Yeah.

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