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00:00:00
Captain Mike Linebacker.
00:00:01
All of these people have those expectations there giddy. There's excitement.
00:00:06
It's knew all of the things that you're saying absolutely.
00:00:10
Guys just want to see what it looks like, and you affect people to write a receivers like Man, I hope this guy can throw in a contract year, you know? So Joe stepped in that situation and he's, you know, the guy he was compared to.
00:00:22
He's beating in every statistical category right now, outside of wins and losses, and he's handled it incredibly well.
00:00:29
What I was saying when you dropped out, too, when we were talking about Joe specific leadership.
00:00:34
He's in a category that players get into.
00:00:39
Blake definitely was this kind of guy You CF and for a couple of years in the NFL.
00:00:44
But when they're just that guy, when there, that guy, that he's just a bad man, he's a bad man because he doesn't have to try.
00:00:52
He doesn't have to be anything other than him, and he's that guy.
00:00:56
He's gonna step on the field and it doesn't matter again.
00:00:59
Wide receiver, defensive lineman.
00:01:01
Everybody knows, you know he comes out on the field.
00:01:04
He's that guy and he's a dynamic personality.
00:01:07
But you brought up this next young player.
00:01:09
Bottom of the totem pole did not wait for his spot to move up the totem pole.
00:01:13
Justin Herbert.
00:01:14
He's had a very different experience now.
00:01:15
He was the sixth pick in the draft fifth pick in the draft, I guess.
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But No. Six.
00:01:20
But, um, he was not the starter day one.
00:01:23
Like I mentioned Tyrod Taylor was a starter and the second game of the season, they're I think they're playing the Chiefs and Tyrod Taylor gets a shot and his ribs from the doctor, and they actually punctured his lung.
00:01:35
And so, basically, right before the game, they told a guy who's a rookie and he was drafted high.
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There's still rookie.
00:01:43
Hey, dude, you're actually going to start, and by the way, it's the chief, so he's thrown into this situation.
00:01:50
That first game, I think you threw for 300 yards, almost beat him at a rushing touchdown, played lights out.
00:01:56
Given the situation here, he is playing against Tom Brady because I do almost these guys coming in the league.
00:02:01
I'll look up to Tom obviously going toe to toe you know they had a lead that they squandered.
00:02:07
They've had a problem with holding on the leads.
00:02:09
Um, but Justin Herbert, right now in the games that he's played is is like a historic pace to start of his career yards.
00:02:18
Touchdowns hasn't really turned it over much.
00:02:21
He's playing lights out, and Justin is very quiet, very mild mannered, Um, introverted, very to himself.
00:02:31
Loves ball his things with attention to detail.
00:02:33
His things air.
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Just when the lights turn on, you know, I'm gonna be that guy.
00:02:38
He's not an energy guy.
00:02:39
You may.
00:02:40
You may see him clap on the sideline, but the Chargers, they're not relying on him to bring the energy.
00:02:44
And so you know, Justin's a guy that now he's incredible talent, you know, super.
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Just physical.
00:02:51
You can throw, he can run.
00:02:52
He's to thirties, you know, be.
00:02:55
But that doesn't help you as a rookie as much as you think it really is between your ears and what's in your chest.
00:03:01
And so here's a guy who the moment has not been too big for him, and his leadership is that he just stays calm.
00:03:07
He shouldn't be calm.
00:03:08
He's a rookie playing got thrown into this crazy situation and then get reps and no offseason, no O. T A s.
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And he's just stepped into this role and let his play to his leading.
00:03:20
Now he may develop, developed and evolved into more of a vocal guy and more demanding.
00:03:26
He may develop into that involvement of that.
00:03:29
But he's not that right now what he is, he's just being true to himself.
00:03:34
He's making place all over the field.
00:03:36
Look at that.
00:03:37
I mean, that corner barely got him, and he's just stepped into this new situation.
00:03:43
It's not his team, it's becoming his team.
00:03:46
But when he got drafted every time, the starter, his team and so he's just been a consistent leader on that team and letting his place speak for himself.
00:03:55
But in the other, they had a lot of really good leaders on that team.
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They got Joey Bosa.
00:03:58
They got an open Ingram.
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They've got some really good player.
00:04:01
Keenan Allen, low key, one of the best way out from the league has been for a decade, so they got a good leadership 100.
00:04:07
Henry's a really good tight end and I got some veterans on that old line so he doesn't need to be all these things.
00:04:12
Doesn't need to try and be something that he's not think he's done.
00:04:14
A fantastic job of being Justin Herbert playing well in games and not over Complicate again.
00:04:20
You mentioned you mentioned Joe Burrow in the comparisons to Tom Brady.
00:04:26
Whether play leadership, all the above Are there any, you know, similar leaders to adjust in Herbert that you say in terms of temperament vibe.
00:04:35
He definitely kind of has his own little subtle, subtle nous to him about just going out and casually throwing threw for 350.
00:04:44
Any any personalities.
00:04:45
I oddly see a little bit.
00:04:47
And obviously you know him way, way better than Ideo.
00:04:49
But I see a little bit of Josh Allen where it's, you know, Hey, you have all the figures.
00:04:54
You have all the physical features.
00:04:56
We're gonna try to point out flaws in your game, whether it's prematurely mature.
00:05:00
Lee in terms of, you know, definitely making sure everybody knows where your red flags are.
00:05:05
So everybody's aware of those and JP got frozen again, dipped back out.
00:05:13
But we'll keep tugging on that thread when he gets back, I'll be calibrating back with him, and we'll make sure that Hey, on the pod.
00:05:23
Oh, we're back.
00:05:25
Froze again. Sorry.
00:05:26
Froze, Own, froze, own super cold Here, um, everything is Yeah, I would say physically, Justin's eerily similar toe Josh Brown and Josh was out there with me this off season and then just was out here a little bit, too, and got you see them kind of throw next to each other.
00:05:43
Um, personality, though I would I wouldn't compare those guys.
00:05:46
Josh is more Brett Farve than anything.
00:05:48
Um, he's a wild man.
00:05:50
Hilarious.
00:05:51
Doesn't stop talking movie quotes.
00:05:53
Talking trash is great.
00:05:54
Um, but I would say, You know, I see a lot of Trevor Lawrence.
00:05:58
Just kind of mild mannered, composed, under control.
00:06:02
Everything is fine.
00:06:03
Straight demeanor.
00:06:04
I called a game for the Spring league last night. Watch J T.
00:06:07
Barrett play.
00:06:08
JT won a national championship in the House State.
00:06:10
13 Big 10 Championships.
00:06:12
Um, way had a quote from a virus, and he's one of his top five all time favorite players.
00:06:17
And so it's just an awesome guy.
00:06:18
But you watch J.
00:06:19
T.
00:06:20
Barrett play. His face is the same at all time.
00:06:22
He's never upset.
00:06:23
He's never too excited.
00:06:25
And just so Justin's face watch Justin play this year, guys, and just look at his face just doesn't change his demeanor.
00:06:32
Watch Trevor Lawrence.
00:06:33
You don't see Trevor Lawrence talking to refs like this with his palms up.
00:06:36
Ever.
00:06:37
You just But that's who he is.
00:06:40
I don't think they either of those guys trying to be that, Yeah, I think some similarities and, you know, obviously much older player.
00:06:49
But like a Joe Flacco as well, that was kind of his M o of being super low key.
00:06:53
I think there I think there are areas where, whether it's your play or whether people wanna point out specific reasons why you're not the best person, I think that's the first thing that they can pull on.
00:07:05
Is a lack of energy type of guy construe that as they don't care? What are some of the pitfalls? You think even this If this is him, you know, authentically knowing that Hey, if you're low energy, you really have to excel in other areas.
00:07:18
What do you think are the areas that you need to excel at if you're you know, you're calm, cool, collected your chill guy.
00:07:25
What are the things you have to dio balance that out and still believe? That's why that's why I say when I draw that Venn diagram, it's not who you are and then who you wanna be, it's who you are and what your team needs, because I would say, if you're calm, cool collected, the goal is to be that all the time, because if you're only calm, cool and collected when everything is chill and easy.
00:07:50
But when the moment gets really big or you down or you just threw two picks and you lose your mind, you get upset and you start making more mistakes.
00:07:56
And that thing that you said you are, you're not right now, you know.
00:08:01
And Josh Allen, I said, He's a wild man.
00:08:03
He's funny and he's movie quote, Yeah, in the huddle in the playoffs, like you can't just be that in the locker room.
00:08:10
You gotta be that if you're gonna be that guy, that guy on so you know it's a pitfall is, is either is one of two things.
00:08:16
It's either not being consistent with one of those five things you wrote down not being who you are or trying to be something else.
00:08:23
And when you're middle school in high school that, you know, you guys were figuring out who you are, what you believe, what you care about, what you love, what you don't like and you figure those things out through experience.
00:08:33
And so it's very easy to go that work for that guy. I wanna be like him.
00:08:38
Do Geo Galecki does this tape Martel did that.
00:08:41
I wanna be like that.
00:08:42
So it's easy to do those things.
00:08:43
You guys follow everybody on social.
00:08:45
I talked about Patrick Mahomes.
00:08:47
We were all there for his gender reveal for him and his girlfriend's kid because he put it on Instagram of millions of people.
00:08:52
But you guys follow up top high school for you guys.
00:08:54
All follow J. J. McCarthy.
00:08:56
You know who you know.
00:08:57
Caleb Williams is at 11 a.
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m.
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V.
00:09:01
P.
00:09:02
And so but to say this is what this guy does, I'm gonna do that too.
00:09:04
I think that's that's a dead end.
00:09:06
Or just not being true to who you are and not consistently being that is another dead end.
00:09:11
So, yeah, those are those pitfalls.
00:09:13
And so far, it's early, you know, eight weeks season.
00:09:16
But these guys that mean mean true to who they are and then and it's and they're just they're focused on their play.
00:09:22
They're playing well, well, these guys are off toe.
00:09:25
You know, I don't think we've ever seen rookies play this well.
00:09:26
And in addition to watch to attack about because just putting a lot of pressure on tour to play.
00:09:30
Well, you just do for under 100 yards in the game.
00:09:32
And the other two haven't done the other two haven't thrown for under 2. 50.
00:09:39
Yeah, just a few yards in every game except for the one that he threw for 400 okay, no, they've been putting up numbers in a wild way.
00:09:49
And I think what you alluded to the kids these days with called switching up When you switch up in times, they're tough and you switch up and you're and you're not that guy you're switching up.
00:09:59
And one guy that in the last guy kind of on this thread of leadership, we wanted to loot you up to those two young guys has been the opposite of switching up and has been really the staple.
00:10:10
And I think probably the best argument across sports.
00:10:14
You know, you could compare who's the best of all time, who's, you know, who's the greatest in all of these areas.
00:10:19
I think what I would say confidently is that is the most consistent, maniacal person I think when all of these things weren't as talked about as they are today that, you know, put these things in the world. That's Tommy.
00:10:35
Be who's changing a culture down in Tampa Bay.
00:10:37
So talk to me a little bit about the differences of Tom's leadership from from those two younger guys.
00:10:45
Well, you know, if you're in high school when you're watching this, you've been watching Tom Brady your whole life.
00:10:49
This is his 22nd second year.
00:10:51
I think so.
00:10:53
Um, I don't remember when he was first playing.
00:10:57
You know what I mean? You know this.
00:10:58
For a long time I've been playing in the NFL longer than a lot of you guys have been alive.
00:11:02
So I get that he's of your dad's right, and as we watch them win Super Bowls in New England, whether you're a Patriots fan or you hate the Patriots, which is pretty much wanted to, um it's like we were never really and even for me.
00:11:15
And I'm in this and I around these guys and I got you know, we're Jared Stidham backed him up last year.
00:11:20
You know, I got that.
00:11:21
Multiple friends back him up.
00:11:23
I almost went there and and, you know, Blake went toe to toe in the NFC championship with Jacksonville Jaguars was not that long ago.
00:11:33
And but we were never really able to go like what part of that's Brady? What part of that Belichick, right? Because that's the Patriot way.
00:11:41
And like, so you never really able like separated out.
00:11:44
And part of his leadership on this is very important, especially if you have a really good coach is one of the best, Most consistent parts of Tom Brady is that he wants to be coached, Okay, he doesn't like Hey, listen, I want a couple of Super Bowls and chill out.
00:12:01
You know, I know what I'm doing here.
00:12:03
That's not him.
00:12:04
Belichick would rip him in meetings for making mistakes, and he would say, Yes, sir, And take notes, just like everybody else.
00:12:10
And so for him, the Patriot Way was way.
00:12:12
We got this superstar and he's getting ripped and he's owning his material and he's apologized.
00:12:19
You know what I mean? And it was like a trickle down.
00:12:20
So the irony is, part of his leadership with New England was that he was just a good teammate and he was coachable.
00:12:28
That's nothing to do with throwing touchdowns.
00:12:30
That's not how this completion percentage.
00:12:32
That is just how the acts and how, what type of patriot he waas.
00:12:37
So that was then and we don't but we don't know no.
00:12:41
So now he's in a new team camp and forget how many games they've won and how well he's playing.
00:12:45
Let's just talking about leadership right now, but that's a guy who I mean, he walks in a room and every single person stops what they're doing looks over most.
00:12:54
The guys that are on the Tampa Bay's team have either played against him or have idolized him and really look up to him and he knows that and so he's gotta bring every day all the things that he's learned from his career, his circle he's allowed to put more than five, right, so he's taken who he authentically is, the good stuff that he's would have worked in the past for him.
00:13:19
He's been a part of championship teams, been a part of nine teams that played in Super Bowls, nine different teams and he's been on played in Super Bowl 22 years.
00:13:25
The same, uh, and he's 16 of him.
00:13:29
So he took all the stuff right.
00:13:33
This is just me observing.
00:13:34
I talked about that, took all the things that work in the past, but he's had to obviously sit here and go Wait a second.
00:13:40
There's a culture that already exist on this new team.
00:13:43
E.
00:13:44
I don't care if it was they were lost these games last year and this and that.
00:13:47
No, no, no.
00:13:48
The coaches have been there.
00:13:50
There's a lot of key players that have been there, and then there's a lot of free agents that have come in.
00:13:53
Gronkowski came in Hama consume came in.
00:13:56
Um, you know, let him for net they signed.
00:13:59
And this week we get to see a be back on the field.
00:14:02
So clearly this is more of like a all right.
00:14:05
I'm bringing all this stuff with me and my circle.
00:14:08
I'm coming to.
00:14:09
This new circle that exists has its own culture, and some of it's great.
00:14:12
We want to keep it going.
00:14:13
Some of it we need to change.
00:14:15
And he's just figured out a way with no offseason to really build the relationships and understand who's there and that team, either.
00:14:22
If you think about it, it's either you look at that roster in Tampa Bay.
00:14:26
It's either superstar dudes that have come in or young, really talented guys.
00:14:33
That safety Antwan Cameron was Winfield Jr.
00:14:37
Something that his dad played in the league like Do is they're gonna be defensive rookie of the year, you know, from Alabama S O.
00:14:45
Just a combination of bringing all these guys together.
00:14:48
And what we've seen is that he's very demanding.
00:14:51
He's very vocal, he's a perfectionist, and he continues to handle himself the same way in the media, Same way on social media.
00:15:01
And you just keep hearing guys talk about they're playing with greatness and they're learning so much.
00:15:05
And there, you know, in Super Bowl Super Bowl Super Bowl.
00:15:08
And so it's a really cool example.
00:15:10
We look at him the juxtaposition of Tom Brady at 43 years old, going to a new situation, and he's kind of in the same spot that Joe girls in.
00:15:20
But it's also kind of completely different because people are wondering, Hey, is this is gonna transfer transfer? We all thought l s u last year's it's gonna transfer is gonna translate totally.
00:15:29
You know, And and there's a guy who watches the NFL is involved.
00:15:34
Like I was curious to see if this Tom Brady from New England was gonna Is this gonna translate over here in Tampa? Are we going to see a different version? Doesn't have Belichick written down his neck anymore.
00:15:42
What's this gonna look like? And we've seen a lot of a lot of what I've seen.
00:15:46
That Tom Brady is pretty consistent with what I've seen for the last 20 years, no doubt.
00:15:51
And I think in a time when everyone wants to find something different, you know, when he first couple games is very, very easy to say.
00:16:00
Oh, well, look there.
00:16:02
And I think part of you know, great people understand that everything is a process and and the people who are looking at him Game one in Game two.
00:16:11
In saying that they don't even understand the way he thinks he's.
00:16:15
You lose games in the NFL.
00:16:17
That's what happens and you're never too high.
00:16:19
You remember too low, and you know that every game is a progression.
00:16:23
This season is a progression.
00:16:24
You're you're constantly learning each other.
00:16:26
You're constantly getting better.
00:16:27
And I think that's something that older guys have a tendency to understand better as well, where younger guys kind of let the flow control them.
00:16:37
That there's they have leadership to a certain extent until the flow takes over.
00:16:42
Until the overwhelming feeling of the team and the culture, they feel they can't control it and it starts to get away.
00:16:49
And I think that's what you see of guys you know who don't have full control of their leadership and how that affects the team.
00:16:58
Yeah, so that leaves them kind of the last thing I want to hit on.
00:17:01
And, um, you guys, you're young, so you probably haven't traveled the world or gone to Europe or anything.
00:17:05
But, um, have you Joey, have you gone to Europe? I have gone to Europe, Spain, Italy for, like, a family trip a couple of years ago. Beautiful place.
00:17:16
I would encourage everyone when it's safe.
00:17:19
Yeah.
00:17:20
So yeah, I got a chance to go to a bunch of countries.
00:17:23
But I use these guys as an example.
00:17:25
So I've done.
00:17:26
I've done gone Ireland twice in London a few times.
00:17:30
And in London they speak English.
00:17:32
In Ireland, they speak English on Scotland is well, they speak English. Okay.
00:17:37
I played in Ireland.
00:17:38
Crowe played in Ireland.
00:17:41
Croke Park, Penn State.
00:17:42
You did Croke Park in Dublin, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland.
00:17:47
Frozen Dublin Frozen.
00:17:51
We'll wait for him.
00:17:52
We'll wait for him.
00:17:53
We know that this is Ah, short term frozen deal.
00:17:56
We're working out all of it. Yeah, we know.
00:18:00
We know it's coming.
00:18:01
It's frozen.
00:18:02
It's cold out there.
00:18:04
Um so let's see you go on a trip when you land in London, you spend a couple of days there.
00:18:08
You go to Ireland for a few days to go to Scotland.
00:18:10
You go back to London, you come home. Okay.
00:18:12
What you experience is everybody speaks English.
00:18:16
They all They all have a different accent, right? A British accent is a little different than than Irish accent.
00:18:23
We probably wouldn't tell a difference, but Scott's Scottish people would say, I I can tell you're Irish, but Scottish accent, Irish accent.
00:18:31
They could tell each other apart, you know.
00:18:33
The key difference, though, is they're just different cultures, different countries, right in London.
00:18:39
This is how people dress.
00:18:40
And this is how people talk.
00:18:41
And this is how people greet each other.
00:18:42
You go to Ireland and this is how people talk.
00:18:44
And this is what people wear and you go to Scotland.
00:18:46
It's a little bit just subtle.
00:18:48
Little differences still speak English.
00:18:50
Yeah, they still drive cars.
00:18:52
It's just on the left side of the road.
00:18:54
You know, they still drive the same way we drive except the steering wheels on the right side of the car.
00:18:59
So is this the subtle differences? And it takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's different than dropping you off in China or Japan, right where it's like nobody speaks this language.
00:19:09
I can't read any of the signs.
00:19:10
I don't know what's going on like it's different.
00:19:12
Okay, well, as you go team to Team E have this conversation with my drop guys every year because they're going to a new team and they don't know which team they're going to, All right, you can start building a relationship with guys before the draft.
00:19:25
You know where you're going.
00:19:26
And so the ****ogy here is when you go to different locker rooms when you go from JV to varsity or you transfer schools where you go off to college or you go to college and transfer schools.
00:19:38
Either way, you go to juco for your you go to a new team, new environment, new culture.
00:19:41
So you're Tom Brady, not Joe Burrow.
00:19:42
Okay, you got this experience that you have an early all three of these guys.
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They're in new situations, right? Just got there differently.
00:19:50
One of the key things is is understanding that there are really a couple of universal languages in football.
00:19:58
So if I goto Ireland, Scotland or London and I say excuse me, I have a question.
00:20:05
No matter who they are, need those countries they're gonna go.
00:20:08
How can I help? You know, like, how can I help you? They know that I'm asking the question or help.
00:20:12
Maybe doing my name's Jordan they know what it is.
00:20:15
I could go to Japan and walk up.
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Somebody say hello.
00:20:18
My name is Jordan, and they don't know what I'm saying.
00:20:21
Or Mexico, right? You go to Canada.
00:20:24
Ireland.
00:20:25
How you doing? My name's joy.
00:20:26
They're gonna say, Hey, you know what? I'm Jordan.
00:20:28
Right? In football, there are a couple of universal languages.
00:20:32
Okay, there's three key ones, one of them.
00:20:35
And then when I say universal languages, I mean that no matter what team you go on, what level you're at, everybody there should at least be fluid and understand this language.
00:20:44
The first one is toughness.
00:20:46
Okay, the only if you go to a team and you're really tough.
00:20:50
However, you get to demonstrate that whether that's finishing the off season workout, whether that's playing through injury, injury, whatever it ISS, if you are, if you if people around your team, we're gonna say that guy is really tough, The only people who won't respect that are the guys that aren't tough.
00:21:07
The football team.
00:21:08
Most people should be tough.
00:21:09
That's a universal language.
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Meaning I don't Joey, I don't have to know.
00:21:12
You don't have to believe what you believe we may listen to different music.
00:21:14
We may have different color skin we may have everything might be different, but if you're tough, I speak that language because Joe Burrow is very tough and anybody on that team and Cincinnati is going to respect that.
00:21:25
And they're gonna like guys, stop talk.
00:21:29
This is the universal language in football, right? Second one is work ethic.
00:21:35
Work at it if you grind and you're there early and you finish the sprints and you get extra reps and you study and you work with guys and you stay after practice and you do all the things right, the only guys that are gonna respect that are the guys who don't have work at it.
00:21:51
Cool.
00:21:52
Don't rely on those guys.
00:21:53
Three guys, you other guys, the old line like that that you know usually play online.
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You're those two things already usually pretty tough and usually work your tail off.
00:22:01
Okay, well, I can respect that.
00:22:04
Whether you're from Ohio and you're white and I'm from Detroit and I'm black and whatever, like I speak the language of working.
00:22:12
Uh huh.
00:22:13
The third one is making place.
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If you show up on game day and you help us win.
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That's a universal language.
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I've had a lot of teammates that I did not like, but they showed up and they played.
00:22:28
And we had that in common.
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And I respect that right.
00:22:32
Here's a couple of non universal languages talent.
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Collins Have a universal language.
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Case in point.
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So you played center in college.
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Division One, Central Florida starter.
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Your standard.
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If you had a white out, who was it? Tough.
00:22:51
Didn't work hard and didn't make plays, but was stupor talented.
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Do you give a crap about this talent? Absolutely.
00:23:00
It's not a universal language.
00:23:04
And if you're the most talented technician offensive line.
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You're Jo Thomas, right? Just unbelievable.
00:23:09
Sometimes Devi didn't care.
00:23:14
So there are non universal languages.
00:23:16
Social media following.
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You got a big social.
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Some people don't care.
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Are you rich? You died rich because of a cool house. Cool cars.
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Some people don't care.
00:23:27
Some people might resent that.
00:23:29
You really funny resident care.
00:23:33
You know how hot your girlfriend is like this? These things, right? Like you're really good at basketball too.
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And you're really ****y, like Okay, okay.
00:23:41
I don't think Joey Grant carries the center.
00:23:43
So there's a bunch of things.
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There's false traps here that we can think like Oh, yeah, I'm doing this Well, everyone will like this and accept this.
00:23:50
And the reality is like Check yourself.
00:23:52
So here's your last one.
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For example.
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Tonight, right down. Work ethic, toughness.
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Making plays great yourself.
00:24:00
How are you on those things? Those three? I'm not saying Have you thrown on Lee touchdowns and never come to pick? I'm just saying, like its third and six.
00:24:07
Like, Did you like, Take your eyes off the number one Because you saw the rush and then took a stack and the guy was open on tape.
00:24:15
You make that play way.
00:24:17
Watch.
00:24:18
Daniel Jones almost beat Tom Brady the other night on Monday Night Football giants drove down there down eight.
00:24:24
He throws a dime touchdown and they go for two, and he just threw a flat route late behind him And just, you know, just a routine thing and that that's a situation where if you're a d v, you love you love his work ethic and you love his toughness because he's but definitely both those things.
00:24:40
And I think he's a playmaker, too.
00:24:41
But you have enough times when there's a play to make right here and you don't make it.
00:24:46
And you're not the only two of those three things, and you could be high paid, high drafted, cool arm, big social media following Handsome market could be all these cool things, but I just don't think the senator's just make freaking played it.
00:24:58
And I love that.
00:24:59
I love those three things, and I think, you know, ah, perfect way to close the night.
00:25:04
Is that piece of homework of right those three things down? The color I want to add to that, too, is all the time, right? Or or if it's not all the time at the most important moments, right? Preferably all the time.
00:25:17
Worst case in the most important moments, because the thing about making plays, the thing about being tough, the thing about work ethic is it's gotta be in inside run on a Monday practice.
00:25:30
When it's hot, it's gotta be in a Friday work out in the summer, right? When when you see Joe Burrow, not only is he making plays on on a Friday, but if they do play basketball and if they are playing at the rec, he's gonna make that shot and they don't care.
00:25:47
Nobody cares, But they noticed, and I got a great story right there.
00:25:52
He was in a bowl game at one of the playoff games.
00:25:55
Last year is a bowl game, and, you know, like bowl games, right? Like competition, competition, this team, that team pulling, contest.
00:26:02
Whatever, right? There was something with a basketball court and you got each team picked one player to come in and shoot three pointers or something like that and and he came in.
00:26:10
I remember what happened.
00:26:11
He went like five or five Or some like that.
00:26:13
No, just like catch, shoot, catch.
00:26:16
Shoot the other one, like two for five.
00:26:17
You know, everyone's going on.
00:26:18
It's not shoes, whatever, and somebody, somebody on Instagram or something.
00:26:23
Somebody interviewed them and they were like Like, Man, you got basketball game like that.
00:26:28
Like, how did you step up and make that those shots, man? And everyone says Your clutch on the football field.
00:26:33
Clutch on the basketball court tune and he's like, I guess it's on Brand.
00:26:37
Yeah, it's a brand.
00:26:40
He's clutch, but you don't have love me, but I work hard.
00:26:46
I'm really, really tough and I'm con.
00:26:49
If there's a play to be made, I'm gonna make it.
00:26:52
And that's why Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow are off the two of the hottest starts we have ever seen.
00:26:59
Rookies have in the most difficult year to play as a rookie.
00:27:02
No off season, no preseason games.
00:27:06
And we're seeing Tom Brady after 20 plus years in one organization with one coach and a bunch of the same coaches and a lot of the same types of players and same owner and the same everything go to a new location with a completely different culture.
00:27:22
And it's working.
00:27:25
Is those three universal languages whether I've those guys know this or not those air understood but talent, how funny you are, how cool you are.
00:27:36
You're sly, all those things.
00:27:37
Not everybody speaks that language.
00:27:39
Not everybody cares.
00:27:41
And those are the big takeaways from a solid stream had some frozen moments, But for the people at home, watching the takeaways from this are authentic.
00:27:53
That then diagram of knowing yourself and the situation.
00:28:00
And then those three universal languages that you mentioned broke it down from those guys.
00:28:04
All some stuff, man.
00:28:05
Jordan is always appreciate you having the time to come on and grace us with these things.
00:28:12
Talk a little bit about what you're doing in the world where people can check you out.
00:28:16
Uh, outside of this show that we're doing yet a conflict on this Wednesday, but normally Wednesdays at nine.
00:28:24
Yeah, we, um and I got these spring league games.
00:28:27
We may look to go Thursday's We'll talk about that Thursday Thursday.
00:28:32
We'll promote it and talk about what we're coming on, and I'll put together some stuff each week, but, um, yeah, you can follow me, Jordan Palmer on instagram and keep the summit on instagram.
00:28:42
Both of those could be someone on Instagram is a great news speed, basically, for everything that's happening in the quarterback world were posting stuff all day long.
00:28:48
I'm just kind of what's happening.
00:28:49
You could literally just check the stories on TV Summit and kind of know what's happening in college in the NFL, and we're gonna start getting more and more younger and updating what's happening in high school as well.
00:28:58
Some of digital is an online coaching platform, and, um you guys, if you're watching this and you're like, you don't wanna do that, sign up.
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And if you want to just know more about it D m me on instagram, my personal instagram I'll get back to you and but I've got almost 100 pieces of content And if you're serious about playing quarterback, this is just a monthly service and you can sign up and try it out.
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And it's just an incredible way.
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Got kids from five different countries guys in Germany or members watching this around, you know, consuming all the content.
00:29:31
Coaches around the country are using it.
00:29:32
High school coaches were using it, and then we also do zooms on Sundays just for members.
00:29:37
And, um, this would be an example, but it Z we spent a full hour, and it's really deep dive each week based off what the community is asking for on dso I you know, I had questions this week from three guys on.
00:29:50
Hey, do you have any tips or tricks on arm care? You know, my arm gets stored, So this Sunday I'm gonna do a whole breakdown of how do you really actually take care of your arm and train your arm.
00:30:00
Onda.
00:30:01
Last week we talked about, uh, how you live your life and like, you know who you are.
00:30:07
The person directly correlates how you play on the field.
00:30:10
If you're wildly out of control And don't pay attention to detail in your regular life, in school and with your family, how are you gonna play that way? And if you're really **** and detail oriented and specific and demanding and those things Yeah, What? You go check him out.
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Go check him out to be some of digital.
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What? I was saying Jordan Waas, You heard the man.
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Check him out. You know the language is universal.
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Check out some of digital.
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If you are serious about the game to keep keep rapping.
00:30:46
Jordan.
00:30:47
Sorry for that interruption.
00:30:49
My bad.
00:30:51
Um, yeah, I think we dive into zooms on the weekends, and then I'm gonna be announcing a camp, maybe tomorrow or Saturday, but Thanksgiving weekend in Southern California I'm gonna be having the next, uh, q B Summit camps are awesome.
00:31:03
And keep them captive 25 guys middle school through high school and normally have college counselors there.
00:31:11
But obviously, these guys are playing right now, so we're gonna do it at this new facility.
00:31:15
I've never done that before.
00:31:16
Where I'm doing, moving my whole operation to all the draft training.
00:31:19
All the NFL veterans were coming out this offseason.
00:31:21
We're doing this new location in Orange County and Irvine, and there's gonna be a great camp.
00:31:25
One of the things we've been doing if you guys follow on social, is, uh, camp Saturday.
00:31:30
Sunday.
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So what we do is we watched the 10 o'clock games on the West Coast, the 10 o'clock games, the first NFL games of the day.
00:31:36
We watched him put him all the games up on screens, and I usually have four or five, sometimes six guys playing that I worked with and and we just break them down in real time.
00:31:44
Hey, look at Josh Allen right here.
00:31:46
So, uh, two minute warning just hit.
00:31:48
Okay? He's got a minute.
00:31:49
58 2 time out there.
00:31:51
Down for what you gonna do at the end of half? What were you thinking? You know, this guy's let's look at Derek Carr is protecting the leader.
00:31:56
Informative offense.
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One of the three things you need to do.
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Informative offense.
00:31:59
We really break it down.
00:32:00
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00:32:07
You just gotta pay attention.
00:32:09
You could just watch a game while you're on your phone, or you can put yourself in Russell Wilson shoes.
00:32:14
So if you're watching this game right now, going back and forth, he watched the rest of the scheme.
00:32:19
I think they're coming out of half and three days.
00:32:21
Got a lead? Let's see how Nick Mullen, who's the backup quarterback with amazing opportunity and all his all his receivers or hurt.
00:32:27
Let's see how he handles.
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If you're Aaron Rodgers protecting the lead, let's see how he makes decisions so you can really actually, like watch and learn as opposed to just watch and s Oh, yeah, some of digital is an amazing opportunity toe.
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00:00:00
Captain Mike Linebacker.
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All of these people have those expectations there giddy. There's excitement.
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It's knew all of the things that you're saying absolutely.
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Guys just want to see what it looks like, and you affect people to write a receivers like Man, I hope this guy can throw in a contract year, you know? So Joe stepped in that situation and he's, you know, the guy he was compared to.
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He's beating in every statistical category right now, outside of wins and losses, and he's handled it incredibly well.
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What I was saying when you dropped out, too, when we were talking about Joe specific leadership.
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He's in a category that players get into.
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Blake definitely was this kind of guy You CF and for a couple of years in the NFL.
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But when they're just that guy, when there, that guy, that he's just a bad man, he's a bad man because he doesn't have to try.
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He doesn't have to be anything other than him, and he's that guy.
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He's gonna step on the field and it doesn't matter again.
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Wide receiver, defensive lineman.
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Everybody knows, you know he comes out on the field.
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He's that guy and he's a dynamic personality.
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But you brought up this next young player.
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Bottom of the totem pole did not wait for his spot to move up the totem pole.
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Justin Herbert.
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He's had a very different experience now.
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He was the sixth pick in the draft fifth pick in the draft, I guess.
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But No. Six.
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But, um, he was not the starter day one.
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Like I mentioned Tyrod Taylor was a starter and the second game of the season, they're I think they're playing the Chiefs and Tyrod Taylor gets a shot and his ribs from the doctor, and they actually punctured his lung.
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And so, basically, right before the game, they told a guy who's a rookie and he was drafted high.
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There's still rookie.
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Hey, dude, you're actually going to start, and by the way, it's the chief, so he's thrown into this situation.
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That first game, I think you threw for 300 yards, almost beat him at a rushing touchdown, played lights out.
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Given the situation here, he is playing against Tom Brady because I do almost these guys coming in the league.
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I'll look up to Tom obviously going toe to toe you know they had a lead that they squandered.
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They've had a problem with holding on the leads.
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Um, but Justin Herbert, right now in the games that he's played is is like a historic pace to start of his career yards.
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Touchdowns hasn't really turned it over much.
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He's playing lights out, and Justin is very quiet, very mild mannered, Um, introverted, very to himself.
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Loves ball his things with attention to detail.
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His things air.
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Just when the lights turn on, you know, I'm gonna be that guy.
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He's not an energy guy.
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You may.
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You may see him clap on the sideline, but the Chargers, they're not relying on him to bring the energy.
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And so you know, Justin's a guy that now he's incredible talent, you know, super.
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Just physical.
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You can throw, he can run.
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He's to thirties, you know, be.
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But that doesn't help you as a rookie as much as you think it really is between your ears and what's in your chest.
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And so here's a guy who the moment has not been too big for him, and his leadership is that he just stays calm.
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He shouldn't be calm.
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He's a rookie playing got thrown into this crazy situation and then get reps and no offseason, no O. T A s.
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And he's just stepped into this role and let his play to his leading.
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Now he may develop, developed and evolved into more of a vocal guy and more demanding.
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He may develop into that involvement of that.
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But he's not that right now what he is, he's just being true to himself.
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He's making place all over the field.
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Look at that.
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I mean, that corner barely got him, and he's just stepped into this new situation.
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It's not his team, it's becoming his team.
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But when he got drafted every time, the starter, his team and so he's just been a consistent leader on that team and letting his place speak for himself.
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But in the other, they had a lot of really good leaders on that team.
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They got Joey Bosa.
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They got an open Ingram.
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They've got some really good player.
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Keenan Allen, low key, one of the best way out from the league has been for a decade, so they got a good leadership 100.
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Henry's a really good tight end and I got some veterans on that old line so he doesn't need to be all these things.
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Doesn't need to try and be something that he's not think he's done.
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A fantastic job of being Justin Herbert playing well in games and not over Complicate again.
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You mentioned you mentioned Joe Burrow in the comparisons to Tom Brady.
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Whether play leadership, all the above Are there any, you know, similar leaders to adjust in Herbert that you say in terms of temperament vibe.
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He definitely kind of has his own little subtle, subtle nous to him about just going out and casually throwing threw for 350.
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Any any personalities.
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I oddly see a little bit.
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And obviously you know him way, way better than Ideo.
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But I see a little bit of Josh Allen where it's, you know, Hey, you have all the figures.
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You have all the physical features.
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We're gonna try to point out flaws in your game, whether it's prematurely mature.
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Lee in terms of, you know, definitely making sure everybody knows where your red flags are.
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So everybody's aware of those and JP got frozen again, dipped back out.
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But we'll keep tugging on that thread when he gets back, I'll be calibrating back with him, and we'll make sure that Hey, on the pod.
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Oh, we're back.
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Froze again. Sorry.
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Froze, Own, froze, own super cold Here, um, everything is Yeah, I would say physically, Justin's eerily similar toe Josh Brown and Josh was out there with me this off season and then just was out here a little bit, too, and got you see them kind of throw next to each other.
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Um, personality, though I would I wouldn't compare those guys.
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Josh is more Brett Farve than anything.
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Um, he's a wild man.
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Hilarious.
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Doesn't stop talking movie quotes.
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Talking trash is great.
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Um, but I would say, You know, I see a lot of Trevor Lawrence.
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Just kind of mild mannered, composed, under control.
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Everything is fine.
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Straight demeanor.
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I called a game for the Spring league last night. Watch J T.
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Barrett play.
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JT won a national championship in the House State.
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13 Big 10 Championships.
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Um, way had a quote from a virus, and he's one of his top five all time favorite players.
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And so it's just an awesome guy.
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But you watch J.
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T.
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Barrett play. His face is the same at all time.
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He's never upset.
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He's never too excited.
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And just so Justin's face watch Justin play this year, guys, and just look at his face just doesn't change his demeanor.
00:06:32
Watch Trevor Lawrence.
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You don't see Trevor Lawrence talking to refs like this with his palms up.
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Ever.
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You just But that's who he is.
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I don't think they either of those guys trying to be that, Yeah, I think some similarities and, you know, obviously much older player.
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But like a Joe Flacco as well, that was kind of his M o of being super low key.
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I think there I think there are areas where, whether it's your play or whether people wanna point out specific reasons why you're not the best person, I think that's the first thing that they can pull on.
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Is a lack of energy type of guy construe that as they don't care? What are some of the pitfalls? You think even this If this is him, you know, authentically knowing that Hey, if you're low energy, you really have to excel in other areas.
00:07:18
What do you think are the areas that you need to excel at if you're you know, you're calm, cool, collected your chill guy.
00:07:25
What are the things you have to dio balance that out and still believe? That's why that's why I say when I draw that Venn diagram, it's not who you are and then who you wanna be, it's who you are and what your team needs, because I would say, if you're calm, cool collected, the goal is to be that all the time, because if you're only calm, cool and collected when everything is chill and easy.
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But when the moment gets really big or you down or you just threw two picks and you lose your mind, you get upset and you start making more mistakes.
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And that thing that you said you are, you're not right now, you know.
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And Josh Allen, I said, He's a wild man.
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He's funny and he's movie quote, Yeah, in the huddle in the playoffs, like you can't just be that in the locker room.
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You gotta be that if you're gonna be that guy, that guy on so you know it's a pitfall is, is either is one of two things.
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It's either not being consistent with one of those five things you wrote down not being who you are or trying to be something else.
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And when you're middle school in high school that, you know, you guys were figuring out who you are, what you believe, what you care about, what you love, what you don't like and you figure those things out through experience.
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And so it's very easy to go that work for that guy. I wanna be like him.
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Do Geo Galecki does this tape Martel did that.
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I wanna be like that.
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So it's easy to do those things.
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You guys follow everybody on social.
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I talked about Patrick Mahomes.
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We were all there for his gender reveal for him and his girlfriend's kid because he put it on Instagram of millions of people.
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But you guys follow up top high school for you guys.
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All follow J. J. McCarthy.
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You know who you know.
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Caleb Williams is at 11 a.
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V.
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P.
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And so but to say this is what this guy does, I'm gonna do that too.
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I think that's that's a dead end.
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Or just not being true to who you are and not consistently being that is another dead end.
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So, yeah, those are those pitfalls.
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And so far, it's early, you know, eight weeks season.
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But these guys that mean mean true to who they are and then and it's and they're just they're focused on their play.
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They're playing well, well, these guys are off toe.
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You know, I don't think we've ever seen rookies play this well.
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And in addition to watch to attack about because just putting a lot of pressure on tour to play.
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Well, you just do for under 100 yards in the game.
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And the other two haven't done the other two haven't thrown for under 2. 50.
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Yeah, just a few yards in every game except for the one that he threw for 400 okay, no, they've been putting up numbers in a wild way.
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And I think what you alluded to the kids these days with called switching up When you switch up in times, they're tough and you switch up and you're and you're not that guy you're switching up.
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And one guy that in the last guy kind of on this thread of leadership, we wanted to loot you up to those two young guys has been the opposite of switching up and has been really the staple.
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And I think probably the best argument across sports.
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You know, you could compare who's the best of all time, who's, you know, who's the greatest in all of these areas.
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I think what I would say confidently is that is the most consistent, maniacal person I think when all of these things weren't as talked about as they are today that, you know, put these things in the world. That's Tommy.
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Be who's changing a culture down in Tampa Bay.
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So talk to me a little bit about the differences of Tom's leadership from from those two younger guys.
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Well, you know, if you're in high school when you're watching this, you've been watching Tom Brady your whole life.
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This is his 22nd second year.
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I think so.
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Um, I don't remember when he was first playing.
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You know what I mean? You know this.
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For a long time I've been playing in the NFL longer than a lot of you guys have been alive.
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So I get that he's of your dad's right, and as we watch them win Super Bowls in New England, whether you're a Patriots fan or you hate the Patriots, which is pretty much wanted to, um it's like we were never really and even for me.
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And I'm in this and I around these guys and I got you know, we're Jared Stidham backed him up last year.
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You know, I got that.
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Multiple friends back him up.
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I almost went there and and, you know, Blake went toe to toe in the NFC championship with Jacksonville Jaguars was not that long ago.
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And but we were never really able to go like what part of that's Brady? What part of that Belichick, right? Because that's the Patriot way.
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And like, so you never really able like separated out.
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And part of his leadership on this is very important, especially if you have a really good coach is one of the best, Most consistent parts of Tom Brady is that he wants to be coached, Okay, he doesn't like Hey, listen, I want a couple of Super Bowls and chill out.
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You know, I know what I'm doing here.
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That's not him.
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Belichick would rip him in meetings for making mistakes, and he would say, Yes, sir, And take notes, just like everybody else.
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And so for him, the Patriot Way was way.
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We got this superstar and he's getting ripped and he's owning his material and he's apologized.
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You know what I mean? And it was like a trickle down.
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So the irony is, part of his leadership with New England was that he was just a good teammate and he was coachable.
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That's nothing to do with throwing touchdowns.
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That's not how this completion percentage.
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That is just how the acts and how, what type of patriot he waas.
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So that was then and we don't but we don't know no.
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So now he's in a new team camp and forget how many games they've won and how well he's playing.
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Let's just talking about leadership right now, but that's a guy who I mean, he walks in a room and every single person stops what they're doing looks over most.
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The guys that are on the Tampa Bay's team have either played against him or have idolized him and really look up to him and he knows that and so he's gotta bring every day all the things that he's learned from his career, his circle he's allowed to put more than five, right, so he's taken who he authentically is, the good stuff that he's would have worked in the past for him.
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He's been a part of championship teams, been a part of nine teams that played in Super Bowls, nine different teams and he's been on played in Super Bowl 22 years.
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The same, uh, and he's 16 of him.
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So he took all the stuff right.
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This is just me observing.
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I talked about that, took all the things that work in the past, but he's had to obviously sit here and go Wait a second.
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There's a culture that already exist on this new team.
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E.
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I don't care if it was they were lost these games last year and this and that.
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No, no, no.
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The coaches have been there.
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There's a lot of key players that have been there, and then there's a lot of free agents that have come in.
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Gronkowski came in Hama consume came in.
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Um, you know, let him for net they signed.
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And this week we get to see a be back on the field.
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So clearly this is more of like a all right.
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I'm bringing all this stuff with me and my circle.
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I'm coming to.
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This new circle that exists has its own culture, and some of it's great.
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We want to keep it going.
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Some of it we need to change.
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And he's just figured out a way with no offseason to really build the relationships and understand who's there and that team, either.
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If you think about it, it's either you look at that roster in Tampa Bay.
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It's either superstar dudes that have come in or young, really talented guys.
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That safety Antwan Cameron was Winfield Jr.
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Something that his dad played in the league like Do is they're gonna be defensive rookie of the year, you know, from Alabama S O.
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Just a combination of bringing all these guys together.
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And what we've seen is that he's very demanding.
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He's very vocal, he's a perfectionist, and he continues to handle himself the same way in the media, Same way on social media.
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And you just keep hearing guys talk about they're playing with greatness and they're learning so much.
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And there, you know, in Super Bowl Super Bowl Super Bowl.
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And so it's a really cool example.
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We look at him the juxtaposition of Tom Brady at 43 years old, going to a new situation, and he's kind of in the same spot that Joe girls in.
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But it's also kind of completely different because people are wondering, Hey, is this is gonna transfer transfer? We all thought l s u last year's it's gonna transfer is gonna translate totally.
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You know, And and there's a guy who watches the NFL is involved.
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Like I was curious to see if this Tom Brady from New England was gonna Is this gonna translate over here in Tampa? Are we going to see a different version? Doesn't have Belichick written down his neck anymore.
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What's this gonna look like? And we've seen a lot of a lot of what I've seen.
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That Tom Brady is pretty consistent with what I've seen for the last 20 years, no doubt.
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And I think in a time when everyone wants to find something different, you know, when he first couple games is very, very easy to say.
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Oh, well, look there.
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And I think part of you know, great people understand that everything is a process and and the people who are looking at him Game one in Game two.
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In saying that they don't even understand the way he thinks he's.
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You lose games in the NFL.
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That's what happens and you're never too high.
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You remember too low, and you know that every game is a progression.
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This season is a progression.
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You're you're constantly learning each other.
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You're constantly getting better.
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And I think that's something that older guys have a tendency to understand better as well, where younger guys kind of let the flow control them.
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That there's they have leadership to a certain extent until the flow takes over.
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Until the overwhelming feeling of the team and the culture, they feel they can't control it and it starts to get away.
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And I think that's what you see of guys you know who don't have full control of their leadership and how that affects the team.
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Yeah, so that leaves them kind of the last thing I want to hit on.
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And, um, you guys, you're young, so you probably haven't traveled the world or gone to Europe or anything.
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But, um, have you Joey, have you gone to Europe? I have gone to Europe, Spain, Italy for, like, a family trip a couple of years ago. Beautiful place.
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I would encourage everyone when it's safe.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I got a chance to go to a bunch of countries.
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But I use these guys as an example.
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So I've done.
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I've done gone Ireland twice in London a few times.
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And in London they speak English.
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In Ireland, they speak English on Scotland is well, they speak English. Okay.
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I played in Ireland.
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Crowe played in Ireland.
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Croke Park, Penn State.
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You did Croke Park in Dublin, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland.
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Frozen Dublin Frozen.
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We'll wait for him.
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We'll wait for him.
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We know that this is Ah, short term frozen deal.
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We're working out all of it. Yeah, we know.
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We know it's coming.
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It's frozen.
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It's cold out there.
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Um so let's see you go on a trip when you land in London, you spend a couple of days there.
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You go to Ireland for a few days to go to Scotland.
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You go back to London, you come home. Okay.
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What you experience is everybody speaks English.
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They all They all have a different accent, right? A British accent is a little different than than Irish accent.
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We probably wouldn't tell a difference, but Scott's Scottish people would say, I I can tell you're Irish, but Scottish accent, Irish accent.
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They could tell each other apart, you know.
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The key difference, though, is they're just different cultures, different countries, right in London.
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This is how people dress.
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And this is how people talk.
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And this is how people greet each other.
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You go to Ireland and this is how people talk.
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And this is what people wear and you go to Scotland.
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It's a little bit just subtle.
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Little differences still speak English.
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Yeah, they still drive cars.
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It's just on the left side of the road.
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You know, they still drive the same way we drive except the steering wheels on the right side of the car.
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So is this the subtle differences? And it takes a little bit of getting used to, but it's different than dropping you off in China or Japan, right where it's like nobody speaks this language.
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I can't read any of the signs.
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I don't know what's going on like it's different.
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Okay, well, as you go team to Team E have this conversation with my drop guys every year because they're going to a new team and they don't know which team they're going to, All right, you can start building a relationship with guys before the draft.
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You know where you're going.
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And so the ****ogy here is when you go to different locker rooms when you go from JV to varsity or you transfer schools where you go off to college or you go to college and transfer schools.
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Either way, you go to juco for your you go to a new team, new environment, new culture.
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So you're Tom Brady, not Joe Burrow.
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Okay, you got this experience that you have an early all three of these guys.
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They're in new situations, right? Just got there differently.
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One of the key things is is understanding that there are really a couple of universal languages in football.
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So if I goto Ireland, Scotland or London and I say excuse me, I have a question.
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No matter who they are, need those countries they're gonna go.
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How can I help? You know, like, how can I help you? They know that I'm asking the question or help.
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Maybe doing my name's Jordan they know what it is.
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I could go to Japan and walk up.
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Somebody say hello.
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My name is Jordan, and they don't know what I'm saying.
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Or Mexico, right? You go to Canada.
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Ireland.
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How you doing? My name's joy.
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They're gonna say, Hey, you know what? I'm Jordan.
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Right? In football, there are a couple of universal languages.
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Okay, there's three key ones, one of them.
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And then when I say universal languages, I mean that no matter what team you go on, what level you're at, everybody there should at least be fluid and understand this language.
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The first one is toughness.
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Okay, the only if you go to a team and you're really tough.
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However, you get to demonstrate that whether that's finishing the off season workout, whether that's playing through injury, injury, whatever it ISS, if you are, if you if people around your team, we're gonna say that guy is really tough, The only people who won't respect that are the guys that aren't tough.
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The football team.
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Most people should be tough.
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That's a universal language.
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Meaning I don't Joey, I don't have to know.
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You don't have to believe what you believe we may listen to different music.
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We may have different color skin we may have everything might be different, but if you're tough, I speak that language because Joe Burrow is very tough and anybody on that team and Cincinnati is going to respect that.
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And they're gonna like guys, stop talk.
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This is the universal language in football, right? Second one is work ethic.
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Work at it if you grind and you're there early and you finish the sprints and you get extra reps and you study and you work with guys and you stay after practice and you do all the things right, the only guys that are gonna respect that are the guys who don't have work at it.
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Cool.
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Don't rely on those guys.
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Three guys, you other guys, the old line like that that you know usually play online.
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You're those two things already usually pretty tough and usually work your tail off.
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Okay, well, I can respect that.
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Whether you're from Ohio and you're white and I'm from Detroit and I'm black and whatever, like I speak the language of working.
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Uh huh.
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The third one is making place.
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If you show up on game day and you help us win.
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That's a universal language.
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I've had a lot of teammates that I did not like, but they showed up and they played.
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And we had that in common.
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And I respect that right.
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Here's a couple of non universal languages talent.
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Collins Have a universal language.
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Case in point.
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So you played center in college.
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Division One, Central Florida starter.
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Your standard.
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If you had a white out, who was it? Tough.
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Didn't work hard and didn't make plays, but was stupor talented.
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Do you give a crap about this talent? Absolutely.
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It's not a universal language.
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And if you're the most talented technician offensive line.
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You're Jo Thomas, right? Just unbelievable.
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Sometimes Devi didn't care.
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So there are non universal languages.
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Social media following.
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You got a big social.
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Some people don't care.
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Are you rich? You died rich because of a cool house. Cool cars.
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Some people don't care.
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Some people might resent that.
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You really funny resident care.
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You know how hot your girlfriend is like this? These things, right? Like you're really good at basketball too.
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And you're really ****y, like Okay, okay.
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I don't think Joey Grant carries the center.
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So there's a bunch of things.
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There's false traps here that we can think like Oh, yeah, I'm doing this Well, everyone will like this and accept this.
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And the reality is like Check yourself.
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So here's your last one.
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For example.
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Tonight, right down. Work ethic, toughness.
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Making plays great yourself.
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How are you on those things? Those three? I'm not saying Have you thrown on Lee touchdowns and never come to pick? I'm just saying, like its third and six.
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Like, Did you like, Take your eyes off the number one Because you saw the rush and then took a stack and the guy was open on tape.
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You make that play way.
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Watch.
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Daniel Jones almost beat Tom Brady the other night on Monday Night Football giants drove down there down eight.
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He throws a dime touchdown and they go for two, and he just threw a flat route late behind him And just, you know, just a routine thing and that that's a situation where if you're a d v, you love you love his work ethic and you love his toughness because he's but definitely both those things.
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And I think he's a playmaker, too.
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But you have enough times when there's a play to make right here and you don't make it.
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And you're not the only two of those three things, and you could be high paid, high drafted, cool arm, big social media following Handsome market could be all these cool things, but I just don't think the senator's just make freaking played it.
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And I love that.
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I love those three things, and I think, you know, ah, perfect way to close the night.
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Is that piece of homework of right those three things down? The color I want to add to that, too, is all the time, right? Or or if it's not all the time at the most important moments, right? Preferably all the time.
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Worst case in the most important moments, because the thing about making plays, the thing about being tough, the thing about work ethic is it's gotta be in inside run on a Monday practice.
00:25:30
When it's hot, it's gotta be in a Friday work out in the summer, right? When when you see Joe Burrow, not only is he making plays on on a Friday, but if they do play basketball and if they are playing at the rec, he's gonna make that shot and they don't care.
00:25:47
Nobody cares, But they noticed, and I got a great story right there.
00:25:52
He was in a bowl game at one of the playoff games.
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Last year is a bowl game, and, you know, like bowl games, right? Like competition, competition, this team, that team pulling, contest.
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Whatever, right? There was something with a basketball court and you got each team picked one player to come in and shoot three pointers or something like that and and he came in.
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I remember what happened.
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He went like five or five Or some like that.
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No, just like catch, shoot, catch.
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Shoot the other one, like two for five.
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You know, everyone's going on.
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It's not shoes, whatever, and somebody, somebody on Instagram or something.
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Somebody interviewed them and they were like Like, Man, you got basketball game like that.
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Like, how did you step up and make that those shots, man? And everyone says Your clutch on the football field.
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Clutch on the basketball court tune and he's like, I guess it's on Brand.
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Yeah, it's a brand.
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He's clutch, but you don't have love me, but I work hard.
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I'm really, really tough and I'm con.
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If there's a play to be made, I'm gonna make it.
00:26:52
And that's why Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow are off the two of the hottest starts we have ever seen.
00:26:59
Rookies have in the most difficult year to play as a rookie.
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No off season, no preseason games.
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And we're seeing Tom Brady after 20 plus years in one organization with one coach and a bunch of the same coaches and a lot of the same types of players and same owner and the same everything go to a new location with a completely different culture.
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And it's working.
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Is those three universal languages whether I've those guys know this or not those air understood but talent, how funny you are, how cool you are.
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You're sly, all those things.
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Not everybody speaks that language.
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Not everybody cares.
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And those are the big takeaways from a solid stream had some frozen moments, But for the people at home, watching the takeaways from this are authentic.
00:27:53
That then diagram of knowing yourself and the situation.
00:28:00
And then those three universal languages that you mentioned broke it down from those guys.
00:28:04
All some stuff, man.
00:28:05
Jordan is always appreciate you having the time to come on and grace us with these things.
00:28:12
Talk a little bit about what you're doing in the world where people can check you out.
00:28:16
Uh, outside of this show that we're doing yet a conflict on this Wednesday, but normally Wednesdays at nine.
00:28:24
Yeah, we, um and I got these spring league games.
00:28:27
We may look to go Thursday's We'll talk about that Thursday Thursday.
00:28:32
We'll promote it and talk about what we're coming on, and I'll put together some stuff each week, but, um, yeah, you can follow me, Jordan Palmer on instagram and keep the summit on instagram.
00:28:42
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00:28:48
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00:28:49
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00:28:58
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00:29:50
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Onda.
00:30:01
Last week we talked about, uh, how you live your life and like, you know who you are.
00:30:07
The person directly correlates how you play on the field.
00:30:10
If you're wildly out of control And don't pay attention to detail in your regular life, in school and with your family, how are you gonna play that way? And if you're really **** and detail oriented and specific and demanding and those things Yeah, What? You go check him out.
00:30:29
Go check him out to be some of digital.
00:30:31
I'm sure he'll pop back in.
00:30:33
There he is.
00:30:34
The flow is up.
00:30:35
What? I was saying Jordan Waas, You heard the man.
00:30:39
Check him out. You know the language is universal.
00:30:41
Check out some of digital.
00:30:42
If you are serious about the game to keep keep rapping.
00:30:46
Jordan.
00:30:47
Sorry for that interruption.
00:30:49
My bad.
00:30:51
Um, yeah, I think we dive into zooms on the weekends, and then I'm gonna be announcing a camp, maybe tomorrow or Saturday, but Thanksgiving weekend in Southern California I'm gonna be having the next, uh, q B Summit camps are awesome.
00:31:03
And keep them captive 25 guys middle school through high school and normally have college counselors there.
00:31:11
But obviously, these guys are playing right now, so we're gonna do it at this new facility.
00:31:15
I've never done that before.
00:31:16
Where I'm doing, moving my whole operation to all the draft training.
00:31:19
All the NFL veterans were coming out this offseason.
00:31:21
We're doing this new location in Orange County and Irvine, and there's gonna be a great camp.
00:31:25
One of the things we've been doing if you guys follow on social, is, uh, camp Saturday.
00:31:30
Sunday.
00:31:31
So what we do is we watched the 10 o'clock games on the West Coast, the 10 o'clock games, the first NFL games of the day.
00:31:36
We watched him put him all the games up on screens, and I usually have four or five, sometimes six guys playing that I worked with and and we just break them down in real time.
00:31:44
Hey, look at Josh Allen right here.
00:31:46
So, uh, two minute warning just hit.
00:31:48
Okay? He's got a minute.
00:31:49
58 2 time out there.
00:31:51
Down for what you gonna do at the end of half? What were you thinking? You know, this guy's let's look at Derek Carr is protecting the leader.
00:31:56
Informative offense.
00:31:57
One of the three things you need to do.
00:31:58
Informative offense.
00:31:59
We really break it down.
00:32:00
So you watch the games and I teach guys how tow watch games and get better because the theme from my last campus reps are all around us.
00:32:07
You just gotta pay attention.
00:32:09
You could just watch a game while you're on your phone, or you can put yourself in Russell Wilson shoes.
00:32:14
So if you're watching this game right now, going back and forth, he watched the rest of the scheme.
00:32:19
I think they're coming out of half and three days.
00:32:21
Got a lead? Let's see how Nick Mullen, who's the backup quarterback with amazing opportunity and all his all his receivers or hurt.
00:32:27
Let's see how he handles.
00:32:29
If you're Aaron Rodgers protecting the lead, let's see how he makes decisions so you can really actually, like watch and learn as opposed to just watch and s Oh, yeah, some of digital is an amazing opportunity toe.
00:32:39
It's everything that I've got in here, and it's out when it's online to build.
00:32:43
It's a bunch of 3 to 5 minute videos.
00:32:45
It's really consumable on DSO physical, mental, emotional excess knows defense's coverages, protections.
00:32:52
You guys may know that you and five man protection, but not really know who's bucking who at all times I break that down.
00:32:59
So just opportunity to get way ahead.
00:33:01
If you're in the middle of the season, sign up right now and adds up to your game.
00:33:05
And if you're seasons getting ready to start, get on there now, moving forward in the chat, we'll have.
00:33:11
We'll have links to Q B, some of digital and access for the viewers to immediately check this out.
00:33:16
Also in the YouTube videos and segments that will do will make sure that those links or dropped in.
00:33:21
So guys, go check that out Valuable stuff again if you're serious about getting to the top of the summit.
00:33:28
But Jordan, thanks again for joining us, a zoo.
00:33:31
Always a pleasure, and we'll talk next Thursday

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