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00:00:00
jump into the keyboard. Warriors.
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We have to keep worries.
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My name is very low. It's for Kirby.
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Shooting **** about M m A.
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In your face is while you guys air Hopefully don't watching Daniel Container Siri's And, of course, waiting for the world to end.
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So just last week, Indio, you're right.
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Hall knocked out our our legend.
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Um, at one point, the goat Anderson Silva gets koto, and Danny White comes out after one says he should have never let him fight.
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Was it that bad to you? Um, my on one hand, Yes, it on one hand.
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Know on one hand.
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Yeah.
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It was a little disparaging seeing Anderson Silva get dropped like that with a punch that I think we all assumed he would have just walked through.
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You know, 5, 10 years ago, Anderson had a iron chin s o.
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Yeah, In that essence, I think it was a little sad, but to be completely fair in comparison to some of the guys we've seen in their B J.
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Penn to name ****ing one right off the top of my head, I thought Anderson looked ok.
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E I mean, I didn't think you looked like, terribly outmatched.
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I think it's safe to say that, you know, he shouldn't be in there with the elite of the elite.
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No more of the man's 45 ****ing years old, for ****'s sakes.
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I didn't think he looked ****ing horrible.
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Like, what are we doing here, like with TJ? Um, but he's clearly a shell of himself, so I suppose it just depends on how you look at the situation.
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How did you look at? How did you personally look at it? Okay, look, the way I saw it is he was not doing that back.
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In fact, some argue that he was he was actually holding his own.
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And, you know, he had a couple of things like around into his boat. Right.
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Um, I think the fact that he got knocked that was with a seemingly glancing blow is what scared the **** out of everybody and made him think like he ain't got **** left.
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Right? Um e don't know, dude.
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****.
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It was because I was watching it.
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And I was I was holding my kid at the same time so he wouldn't let me pay attention.
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But, um what I saw, I think Anderson was fine after he was doing great.
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Do you think maybe it's because Dana White like because maybe Anderson didn't like leaving the clubs in the middle of the case until Dana White That he was like, Thank you.
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Didn't I think UFC because he didn't do any of that ****.
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In fact, he kinda left the door open to fight again.
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Well, I have to go back and watch all the clothes and ****, but I feel like maybe he has one more fight on his UFC contract.
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But Dana don't want to give him that fight because they feel like they've seen it up.
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So I don't know.
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I think the question might become Are they gonna hold his one fight and basically make him retire? Or will they go ahead and let him go to another company? I e.
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I hope and assume they would let him go on this point.
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I mean, he's not the draw he once used to be.
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It would be a prick.
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Move to just end his career like that to just hold.
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That might be like you can't find anywhere else or we'll sue you, but we're not gonna get one fight we owe you.
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Either That's sort of a **** move either giving this fight or go ahead and let him out of his contract.
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But again, I do think that it's ****ing quite obvious and clear the Andersons best days are behind me.
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I know. I don't.
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I don't really have a major desire toe watch Anderson Silva get beat up at this point in his life and career.
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It doesn't mean a whole lot for me.
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It doesn't answer any questions or nothing.
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So it's just it's the same dude that ****ing gave Izzy a kind of a pretty hard time in that.
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Like, Hey, give him a hard time.
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I think you know, I don't know, Dude, I wonder those things.
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I I he that fight was close.
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E I feel like there was some sort of weird respect.
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I feel like it is.
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He wanted toe like he was in.
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Ah, yeah.
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What does he didn't I feel like an Anderson Silva when a grab is these little sisters ass or something? E **** out of him like I feel like if there would have been the same sort of smoke that he had a Acosta where he really wanted to prove a point.
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I think he would have destroyed Anderson.
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Um, I could be wrong about that, but I just feel like it was one of those things where he was just sort of having fun with him in there and not really, really going for it.
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I don't think it was because of how good Anderson is.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I think Anderson still has some talent because I mean again, he's one of the most talented fighters that ever lived, but also isn't the WWF man, the W W e.
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Whatever, Um, it's real life. And he's 45.
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He's going to slow down.
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His power is gonna like his timing is going to start being a little off.
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I mean, there's just no way to get around these things.
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It is what it is, right? I mean, the older you get to start getting all that, so it makes complete sense.
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Um, we got a bunch of comments or quick.
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Uh, what's up? Adam says Anderson Silva is B J Pan. **** off.
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No.
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**** off with that.
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Maybe on UFC four.
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Adam, not we're not doing that **** like, uh, boxing, right? Oh, this.
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What's up, man? Who's you lose your the weekend? How is it not Maurice Greene for dropping the ball against Greg Hardy? Did he dropped the ball or his Greg Hardy getting that **** good? No, Greg Hardy is not that I'm so ****ing sick and tired of Greg Hardy man or not even Greg Hardy.
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Just this.
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I tell you what I tell you what with Greg Hardy.
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Alright, The Volkoff fight.
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Cute. Fair enough.
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He lost it, but he went the distance. All right.
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Boom, boom, boom.
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Bring him in against Maurice Greene.
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Yeah, alright.
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A decent fighter.
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I'm tired of ****ing with Greg Hardy. Alright.
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Derek Lewis is fighting.
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Who? Derek Lewis has got a fight coming up. He's fighting.
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Uh, Curtis Blades.
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I'll be I'll be I'll be nice.
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The loser.
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You get the loser of that fight.
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I'm tired of playing with, you know.
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Listen, let's either let Greg Hardy get their ****ing ass whooping that all of us want to see him take or let's let him get a signature win.
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That shuts us up.
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I don't want to see him fighting the Maurice Greene's of the World no more.
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I don't give a ****. He won.
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So what, e I mean, at the end of the day? So what? Like, you know, I'm ready for him to sink or swim, man, you know, he's had his fights in the UFC.
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I realized he just started training not too long ago.
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I don't give a ****.
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He went five rounds with Volkov not too long ago.
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He's ready to sink or swim.
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Give that man, Derek.
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Quite frankly, I would love to see him fight Derek Lewis.
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For me.
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That fights. Brilliant.
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We all know how Derek feels about women beaters.
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You all know that Derrick Lewis would have no problem, uh, trying to intimidate him for being a leader.
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We know that Greg Hardy would try to act like a tough guy.
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I ****ing love it.
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Not to mention the fight would be fireworks, and I'm pretty sure Greg Hardy would actually finally get his come up.
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And I'm pretty sure Derek Lewis we're getting that ass.
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So, you know, whatever, man.
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His whatever race green don't mean a whole lot of nothing to mean. Congrats.
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But like I'm ready to see you take on a real guy enough with your mouth right now.
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I'm kind of I'm done with.
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I'm done with the hype on Greg Hardy.
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Not I'm done with all of it, though.
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I just don't like hearing about him.
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I'm saying just like that, as a fighter.
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Put him in there against someone.
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Riel, you think of sweat and see what happens.
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Right? Right.
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All right, All right.
00:07:15
Otis, Who's your winner of the weekend? And how is it not Bryce Mental for moving up the ladder with his win over Andre Fielea? I gave him quite a bit of credit on this on this wind, because under if it is so god**** like, like, like, experienced right now was a decision Shore Rough fight for sure.
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Um, we'll fight for Andre because Bryce kind of kept taking them down and everything, but, um, what do you think I'm Bryce Mental here is he arrives here.
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You're gonna throw him at, like, top 15.
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Stop tens.
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What's up? Uh, let's see here.
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I don't know.
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I look, I like Bryce Mitchell.
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All right? I like him.
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I love his personality.
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I know he's the ****ing anti massacre.
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I'll tell you what I think it makes him a ****ing idiot.
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But I like that.
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I like that.
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He's not indifferent.
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Love him or you hate him.
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I enjoy that about him.
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He's exciting.
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He's got an entertaining fight style, and he seems to be very talented now.
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That being said, I'm still not sold on what exactly his ceiling is when I picture him fighting the elite, he's at 45 right? Or were featherweight with him, right? Okay.
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So when I think about him fighting the Brian Ortega's or the Korean zombies of the world or the Calvin caters, I don't know, I'm not.
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Look, he's cute, but I'm still very much I'm not there yet.
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I I think his next fight will be very.
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I tell you what.
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I'd like to see him fight. Next is Jerramy Stevens.
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I want to see him fight somebody, because I don't know yet.
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I mean, listen, he looks good, but 45 is deep dog.
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I mean, and you got some ****ing killers at the top of that division, like, you know, he's a good grappler.
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Do I think he wants any sort of smoked with Tea City? Do I think he could strike with do I think he could do anything with Brian Ortega on? You know, this is Korean Zombie fight notwithstanding.
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I mean, I don't think so.
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Do I think he would be able to impose his grappling game on the Korean Zombie? Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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So, you know, let's see that they're against somebody like Jeremy Stevens or something.
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And let's just see if he could actually handle a now.
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If he could do if he could go in there and and submit Jeremy or get a good win over somebody like that, that's right at that sort of, uh, you know, Top seven Thio 11 12 tear guy.
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Then we'll revisit this conversation.
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Listen, Andre Feely is a tough dude.
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Ah, veteran Goodwin.
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Um but But I don't want to get to ****ing carried away with Bryce.
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Get I'm intrigued, though.
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I'm still with him.
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I'm just not like, you know, my ****ing get on the Homs ****ing hype training started wild.
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I I'm not sold just yet.
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He looks good, though.
00:10:08
He looked really good.
00:10:09
He did what he needed to do.
00:10:10
Right Before we move up this card to a quick we don't talk about your alcohol.
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Um, how much other than just name is this win over Anderson Silva to you? As far as your right hog goes And his sensitive ****ing ass, it means honestly, dude, I feel like I I hate these fights.
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E hate these fights for everybody.
00:10:36
Well, I don't hate the fight for Anderson, because if Anderson gets lucky and lands a crazy kick or something, go out on a high note against a decent opponent.
00:10:43
I hate this fight for your i a hall and then I hate what? What? What? Everybody is able to do it now.
00:10:52
You're I a Hall B J Ryan Hall.
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Excuse me.
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Right.
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Hall has ah knockout win over Anderson Silva.
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But I'm sorry to me being ah, lifelong fan of the sport.
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And I saw the guy that made Forrest Griffin looked like he didn't belong in the sport.
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I saw the guy that when Vitor Belfort was ****ing decapitating everybody in the first minute of the fight, I saw that guy front kick him in the ****ing chin.
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I saw Anderson do incredible things.
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So for me, your I A Hall does not have a knockout win over Anderson Silva.
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He beat somebody.
00:11:40
Yeah.
00:11:41
Yeah.
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You know what? I like that.
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I like that he be Anderson Silva.
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He beat Peter Parker, that mother****ing and beat Spider Man.
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He didn't beat the spider.
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I'm just you.
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It's not a knock to your IA because he didn't have the opportunity to fight the spider.
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But for me, it's a real ****. I know.
00:12:00
I'm just I'm a B J Penn **** writer, but I'm going to the same thing with Uriah Hall.
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Your riot? Haldin Hill hook B J. Penn.
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He didn't He'll hook the guy that got his black belt in four ****ing years and and ****ing, you know, because right who I say.
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Yeah, My bad.
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Yeah, Same jive dog.
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Hall did not.
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He'll hook B J. Penn.
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He he'll hook the ****ing coat out.
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****ing drunk.
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40.
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Like, I just don't think these fights are fair.
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Man, you take these aging veterans who are just like clearly past the twilight of their career.
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You put him in there with someone of a young lion, young lion eats him, and then it's like, Oh, God! Minute B. J.
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Penn or you knocked out Anderson Silva.
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It just seems a little disingenuous to be completely honest. Like I don't.
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It rubs me wrong.
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I'm sorry.
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I don't love it.
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Yeah, I know.
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To me, I win over Anderson Silva is like the same as the one of her Shokhin, who at this point, then the brothers, they don't really mean much, like Okay, cool.
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If you're if you're not paying attention, you're like, Oh, should he be? So So it's cool.
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I'm gonna watch this, dude.
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But in that, even, like for the last handful of years No, no, no, no.
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It wasn't Spider.
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It was It was this Anderson, a 45 year old Anderson Silva.
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When you win, when you win is extremely important.
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You think about, um, Matt Metreon and Ryan Bader both have knockout winds over Fader.
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Now, if you rewind back to when Fedor was fighting Crow Cup, if one of those ****ing **** bird as **** losers would have starts to fade, or at that time the world would have caught on fire.
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It matters when you do it like you that that's why it's so important when guys fight in their prime.
00:13:55
And then what happens in that fight is very important when Rampage beat Chuck and Pride.
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That was very important.
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And then when he beat him again in the UFC when they were both still right in that range very important, they could fight now.
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And who really gives a ****? I mean, ****, Chuck might not rampage out.
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Now look prime example.
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And I know I'm completely in the weeds here, guys.
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But Tito and Chuck e Chuck beat the **** out of Tito twice when they were both fighting.
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And then they fall again 37 years later and Tito knocks chuck out.
00:14:28
Data Ortiz, don't knock out Chuck Liddell.
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Goddammit! That's not the way the universe works.
00:14:33
But if mother****ers fighting their late forties there early fifties, it's stupid sort of man.
00:14:39
So in some weird way, I feel like if we're gonna let these, uh, veterans compete, they would be fighting each other Dog, it's not fair toe.
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Let them fight young guys that are just gonna make him look stupid on their way out.
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It's not fair and just setting enough to look studio because it looks stupid and just, you know, just for a name, that's it.
00:14:58
So they're doing it for and It's not even a real name anymore. Exactly.
00:15:01
Shell of that name, Zubair.
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Anyone that knows Don't know that ****.
00:15:05
All right? E was throwing out the fight announcement.
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Whoa! Whoa! Okay.
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Wonder boys.
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Jeff Neal.
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Whoa! I hadn't heard that.
00:15:13
That is interesting.
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That's ****ing amazing.
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I love that fight.
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Now we're gonna see what time it is with Jeff Nil.
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Jeff knows a bad mother****er, but now we're about to see, like you can knock out the mother****ers that can't strike.
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But one thing you gotta have Wonderboy, the Tyron Woodley fights notwithstanding, the mother****er can strike.
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You know he don't Usually, it's ironic that Tyron Woodley has had the most success striking against Wonder Boy other than pennies with one big punch.
00:15:43
But like Paris was getting his ass whipped until that point.
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That fight, but like, ironically enough, Tyron Woodley is the one.
00:15:48
Do I tell you, man, I think the threat of grappling fighting a really like like Habib Habib does very well.
00:15:57
The striking the people are so scared to death of his grappling such a different ****ing sort of a different thing.
00:16:05
Like I think Wonder Boy was so worried about Taiwan's grappling that enabled tire on the night.
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The **** I like it if they were in a kickboxing match.
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I just don't imagine that Iran has that same success against Wonderboy.
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No, like you said it right, whether doesn't have the kind of resting that he's well that he's rumored to have.
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We have seen that **** ****ing forever.
00:16:22
Um, then then for sure.
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Wonderful to knock the **** out of him.
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Uh, he's a He's a nice fight.
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Honestly, I'm on the heat by Michelle Waters and you see 2 57 Lovely fight.
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Yeah, fine.
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We'll find out exactly how good Revis is.
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I love that.
00:16:39
Yeah, it's a big fights.
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Also a big time show water because it could be make or break this point like she lose this fight.
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You could kiss on the champ.
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Mom. ****. Goodbye.
00:16:47
Um UK Converse Calvillo.
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Here's the award for who gives a ****? Uh oh.
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There are fighters you don't like, and I'm sorry I'm again.
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E I don't know what it is about UK again.
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Her name.
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I'm just like, why do we got can she get just get beat watching her, All right? I don't know what it is.
00:17:08
But come on, Calvillo.
00:17:09
Don't ****ing test positive for pot or nothing.
00:17:12
I'm not being e think of.
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Educating with me, though, is that she is ****ing annoying.
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I don't know why.
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That's all I could think of is I'm annoyed.
00:17:23
You got the fight against you know what? It was here.
00:17:26
This She got the fight against Shevchenko, and she was like, I'm gonna be there.
00:17:30
I'm going to guess her out.
00:17:31
I'm gonna be I'm gonna move.
00:17:32
What? I'm gonna hit her.
00:17:33
And when she tried to hit me back, I'm not even gonna be there anymore.
00:17:36
And I think they're going like, have you seen this Shevchenko fight check? You aren't leading this dance.
00:17:41
The Finkel is gonna smack the tar out of you.
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And then what happened? Exactly that Chu Kagan, for having such a unique name has the most unforgettable face in the world for me.
00:17:52
I can't picture her ****ing face e.
00:17:55
I don't I don't know what she looks like.
00:17:56
I've watched her 513 times and I still don't know what she looks like.
00:17:59
She's just so forgettable for me.
00:18:01
E don't know what I think, but Yeah, you Kegan **** off that you were gonna say nothing personal.
00:18:07
I just e All right.
00:18:10
Here's one that annoy the **** out of me and and kinda continues to my parents.
00:18:13
Tim Means used to 55 was supposed to be Robbie Lawler Lawler out due to injury.
00:18:18
Ah, lot of people were like, Hey, give him give a hazmat Mohamed's not Jamaica.
00:18:23
And no, they made a hamster versus Leon Edwards.
00:18:26
So we got 10 10 means of MK Perry.
00:18:29
We think I like it.
00:18:31
I mean, if we can't if we can't have Robbie, I think, yeah, I mean, it'll be a fun fight will be a good scrap.
00:18:38
Perry will probably lose and be on his way out of the You have seen more than likely.
00:18:42
Uh, it was supposed to be like I said, ****ing Robbie Lawler.
00:18:46
But Tim Means is a very suitable replacement to keep it entertaining.
00:18:49
Fight? Yeah, I met him.
00:18:51
I met him.
00:18:53
Right.
00:18:54
Here's interesting one.
00:18:55
I like it. Dominic Razor. Jerry Poe.
00:18:57
Triska. Nice.
00:18:58
Little risky.
00:18:59
Piper Ray is who's you know.
00:19:00
I know he just lost title.
00:19:01
Fight the belt to He lost the title fight to to good old Yon who will be talking about here soon, You know, shortly.
00:19:10
But whenever Yeary, I think, gets him right back in that you know, title shot possession.
00:19:15
But I lost against him, puts him into, you know, gatekeeper status.
00:19:19
Sort of we think about despite.
00:19:22
I love it.
00:19:23
I love it.
00:19:24
I think the year he sort of deserves a chance, especially with light heavyweight being sort of completely up in the air right now and a little light.
00:19:31
Anyways, Onda also, Dominic needs a fight that he should win.
00:19:37
But he also needs to sort of prove himself at this point.
00:19:40
E I mean, look, all y'all could say whatever you all want, he lost that Jon Jones fight.
00:19:44
He lost in the books.
00:19:47
It was a L.
00:19:48
And then he definitely lost the yard.
00:19:51
So he's coming off of two ****ing definitive losses in a row.
00:19:54
The man needs a w to What the **** isn't about guys that Mike John Jones coming back looking the same.
00:20:00
Like I know we have Glover vs Carlos Sanchez this weekend and I'm hyped about started coming back, but I can't help but feel like we're going to see like a show that do because it's almost like Jon Jones.
00:20:10
No matter how could you do against them, take something from you every time.
00:20:14
It's ****ing insane.
00:20:16
I mean, I don't I don't want to get into it, really, because we got into so much last week.
00:20:20
But, yeah, I think I think John gets a lot of flak because of how annoying he is.
00:20:27
Um, he's a real easy due to hate on.
00:20:31
And then he had the steroid thing.
00:20:33
So people, it's, you know, it's even Mawr.
00:20:35
But honestly, dog, if you judge John just based off of what happens in that cage, even the fights that air close, even the fights that air close John is still hurting you.
00:20:49
He's kicking you in the knees.
00:20:51
He's kicking you in the legs.
00:20:52
He's landing his shots like nobody dominates John.
00:20:57
If anything, you're like, Well, maybe John lost that fight.
00:21:00
Dominic did really good.
00:21:02
Tiago did really good, But John hurts you.
00:21:05
John hits you everywhere, like John, honestly in the cage, there's no I don't go for with.
00:21:10
Nobody says not to be.
00:21:12
That beats a very dominant fighter, and he looks good right now, but when you're just talking about overall legacy and career and ****, dog.
00:21:18
Nobody touches Jon Jones.
00:21:20
Sorry.
00:21:21
Yeah.
00:21:22
So I guess we'll see what they would raise has left.
00:21:24
And if you're he deserves a shot at some point, uh, cereal game versus J D s for us to 56.
00:21:29
Hyper that one.
00:21:30
I love that.
00:21:31
You know what, man? I didn't give.
00:21:33
I always like to give ****ing **** Mailer and Sean Shelby ****.
00:21:36
I'm I'm gonna go silver mark.
00:21:38
But you know what? I also like to be a fair guy.
00:21:42
They've been Loki killing it, man.
00:21:44
These were some really good.
00:21:45
That's a That's a great matchup to man. That's good.
00:21:48
Matchmaking makes me wonder if they like called. I do.
00:21:52
Hey, we'll give you a couple grand, give us a couple of fights here and see what happens.
00:21:55
And you just go.
00:21:56
There you go Where you want, man? These air.
00:21:58
These are some pretty good fights, man.
00:21:59
These air really, really good fights for both guys.
00:22:03
You know, gain has that sort of Could he be the guy? The next big thing, a heavyweight.
00:22:09
And then you got JDS who has been there forever.
00:22:12
We all know, he sort of has the potential on the right night to knock anybody out.
00:22:15
So can you kind of take out this hungry up and comer? Very good fight, man. Love it.
00:22:20
Love it.
00:22:21
Too bad we don't have president anymore, says says Rader.
00:22:24
Hardy Lewis will be fun at that presser.
00:22:26
You just be like destroying him on the microphone.
00:22:30
You know what? You know what I love Almost more than anything in life, nothing brings me more joy.
00:22:37
And I mean this man, nothing brings me more joy than seeing a bully get bullied, bullied, then seeing a bully meet another bigger Alfa male.
00:22:49
That's not a bully.
00:22:50
But like I, Derek Lewis is a ****ing God amongst men.
00:22:54
Love that.
00:22:56
He that he goes because he's such a big like who's gonna believe him? Like you might even beat him up in a fight.
00:23:05
But you do not bully Derek Lewis.
00:23:07
It don't happen, period.
00:23:09
Point blank.
00:23:10
You might beat him up, but you don't bully it like I loved it.
00:23:14
Like Derek would be able to come out and be ableto poke.
00:23:18
Greg Hardy and Greg Hardy might have this sort of I'm in up and coming tough guy when you're fighting.
00:23:24
All due respect to the Maurice Greene's in the world that don't work against mother****ing Derek Lewis, son, he is not gonna be shook it all.
00:23:32
He's going to get right in your face.
00:23:34
He's gonna say **** that irks you.
00:23:36
And guess what? It ain't gonna be a god**** thing you could do about it.
00:23:40
Even when that cage door shuts and you get your chance, come get you some.
00:23:44
Derek Lewis is gonna be there the whole time.
00:23:46
He's gonna pull your whole cart, He's gonna be smarter, wittier and funnier, stronger, bigger and taller and a better just I love that.
00:23:54
I would love to see Greg Hardy have to fight a guy who's gonna talk **** who's gonna eat it and what and what you gonna do about it it up for the table over like you.
00:24:05
You're gonna be with a man who's not scared of you a bit like you gonna be nervous How that gonna feel when you got Derrick Lewis up in your face like what you want to do about it Now, don't get me wrong.
00:24:17
I'm not saying Greg here are gonna be a terrified, But you definitely will not be the Alfa male of the table. No longer.
00:24:23
And that will be a parent.
00:24:24
At the very least, you're gonna have to fight really hard to get it for sure.
00:24:28
Not not only that, you might be them, but you're gonna pay for it. You're dancing.
00:24:32
Gonna pay for it, right? This this is not more rescreen.
00:24:35
And again to give the heart is a little bit of respect.
00:24:37
He did go with with vocal for five rounds.
00:24:40
All right, He's not a complete chump.
00:24:42
Then again, vocal danced around with Derek Lewis.
00:24:45
Five rounds of Derek.
00:24:46
What? One time is vocal.
00:24:49
So you know Derek Lewis will sleep you if you don't get ****ing two Q Am I I ****ing love that I would love even **** the pressers.
00:24:59
Let's just do you like this.
00:25:01
I just want to hear Derek Lewis run his mouth to ****ing Greg Hardy and Greg Hardy just had to take it because he gave about it.
00:25:08
Greg Hardy is trying to say anything back.
00:25:09
Anyway, Brad, tomorrow's shoot.
00:25:11
Is that that 2 57? Okay, that's all it on e a junior.
00:25:16
I agree with Fred.
00:25:17
How was supposed to be? Was supposed to be silver.
00:25:19
Honestly, Silver should have been facing Widener.
00:25:20
Jocko agreed.
00:25:22
How has to go for guys like gasoline Rematch or your Romero Silver should been fighting Weidmann for sure.
00:25:27
That's the perfect.
00:25:29
Why hasn't that happened? Yeah, I don't know.
00:25:31
I don't know.
00:25:32
But like, yeah, putting him in there with Hall was just ridiculous.
00:25:34
And like I said, it almost kind of sucks for Hall, because it's just like, Okay, Okay, so you knocked out Anderson and his last fight ever.
00:25:41
Where he's clearly a show of himself, like riel talk.
00:25:46
I know I always talk **** about GSP, but if we wanted to really, really get into this pound for pound discussion and **** and even with me taking on my bull**** aside, GSP did come back and win a belt at a way above that.
00:26:00
That's true.
00:26:02
He does deserves credit.
00:26:03
But if we're keeping in the bean when that fight didn't favor him, he didn't want it when Anderson was the champion and wanted it, and the whole world wanted it.
00:26:14
He didn't want it because he knew it wasn't a good fight.
00:26:17
When biz being was there and the mother****er's got one I can't see And he is close to retirement.
00:26:24
You come back and take the fight like you deserve credit, because you won.
00:26:28
But it was also busy things very last fight.
00:26:31
And literally a year and a half later, the dudes popping his eyeball out of his head literally, he could not.
00:26:36
So it's like all these things sort of matter, bro.
00:26:39
You didn't come back and beat Robert Whitaker that.
00:26:43
Let me take some George George, come back and be easy and taking third main like you come back and be easy and ****ing.
00:26:55
But But you know you won't.
00:26:57
You know you don't come back and fight Usman, let alone.
00:27:00
Is he now? I will say that George was smart, but But again, catching guys at the twilight of their career, beating the **** out of them and then taking a bunch of credit for it rubs me the wrong way.
00:27:11
Yeah, sorry.
00:27:12
Uh, I rather see Nico presses.
00:27:15
Mike Perry agreed.
00:27:16
I really want to be Oh, how surprised were you that John didn't kill that guy? I don't know if you saw it, but there's a video security video from his house.
00:27:25
Some dude walked out the John Jones driveway and started trying to break into cars and **** or got into one of the trucks or whatever.
00:27:33
Then John Jones walked out of his garage with a shotgun.
00:27:36
Do takes off running, and John Jones goes after his ass with his shotgun.
00:27:41
So how's the president? They just didn't kill that guy.
00:27:45
Um, I suppose very surprised.
00:27:48
But beyond all that, I guess my first initial thing would be is, uh, where we're at now.
00:27:56
Albuquerque, New Mexico is a Have they? Have they taken the new crown for the dumbest ****ing people on earth again? News flash.
00:28:05
Guys, I don't know if you guys understand this, and apparently the world does.
00:28:09
Apparently nobody really gets it.
00:28:11
John Jones is the baddest mother****er standing on 2 ft.
00:28:16
If you want to rob somebody, I would suggest you pick anybody on Earth that do Jon Jones like, who are these people? Not only.
00:28:29
And if you know anything about John.
00:28:31
Hey, with no weapons but naked, Jon Jones is the baddest man on earth.
00:28:37
And I'll kill you.
00:28:38
Be He's got a ****ing attack dog.
00:28:41
German Shepherd.
00:28:42
That he trained to a word.
00:28:44
And now apparently he knows how to shoot guns and ****.
00:28:49
So leave that man alone.
00:28:52
He snorts coke.
00:28:53
He's ****ing nuts.
00:28:54
Y'all ****ing plan with John Jones, this mother****er trying to become John Wick and **** on coat **** is like the dude is already the baddest man on the planet with no weapons.
00:29:08
And now he's learning how to shoot guns, and he's got a big ass attack dog.
00:29:12
I suggest you all don't try to rob John.
00:29:14
John, are you guys? There's a bunch of other houses on that block, buddy.
00:29:18
Pick another one. I promise you got a better chance.
00:29:20
Like, do your research.
00:29:22
You are picking literally the worst house on earth short of a Tim Kennedy or an exploit Navy.
00:29:27
Still, Dude, you don't want to rob that guy.
00:29:30
If that guy catches you, he's going to put you in a hurt locker from hell that if you don't shoot you like dude, please know what the ****'s marriage? You guys, all due respect.
00:29:42
John Jones is not Anthony Lionheart. Smith.
00:29:45
Yeah, right, right, right.
00:29:47
All due respect exactly.
00:29:48
John grabs you.
00:29:50
You're in bad shape and that, like That's when John's coked out playing games.
00:29:56
I do again all the bull**** that people say about John Jones.
00:29:59
I do believe that he absolutely loves his family.
00:30:03
And I do believe that he is somewhat of a normal guy.
00:30:06
I think he loves his daughters.
00:30:07
I think that if you broken John Jones house, he would rip your mother****ing head off your shoulders.
00:30:12
I think we're gonna come **** with his kids.
00:30:15
Good luck.
00:30:16
If John thought you about to hurt his kids and he got his paws on you, bro, you are about to get ripped apart.
00:30:24
Pick another.
00:30:25
You gonna wish the dog bit you.
00:30:26
Dude, you get that on video, actually going viral forever.
00:30:30
Oh, he's gonna throw you through walls like I don't think you understand.
00:30:34
Like God rest his soul as as mean and as vicious as Kimbo.
00:30:40
Look, John Jones is 10 times that mean real life.
00:30:45
He might look a little goofy and he's skinny.
00:30:47
That man can fight well, he knows how to hurt you bad.
00:30:52
Don't be going to fool around by that man's house now he knows how to shoot guns and ****.
00:30:55
All better.
00:30:56
Stop playing with John Jones, please stop playing with him.
00:30:59
You notice how he ran after the mother****er like he's ready to rock and roll with.
00:31:04
Not only is he ready, he's looking forward at this point.
00:31:07
He wants to find out if he could do this ****.
00:31:09
So leave that man alone, Mother****ers.
00:31:12
Leave him alone.
00:31:13
****ing H Q crackheads.
00:31:14
No ****.
00:31:15
What the ****? Y'all gonna pick a different house? Your ****ing idiots? Only one guy.
00:31:19
There's only one crackhead I know that I would send over there just for fun.
00:31:22
All right, well, you all think about Hardy missing with a heavyweight.
00:31:26
It should be 300.
00:31:27
My opinion that this big ****s fight he didn't miss.
00:31:29
Wait.
00:31:30
Okay. You're right. He missed the first.
00:31:32
Yeah, I ended up being, like a pound and a half under.
00:31:36
Should it be 300? No, that's too much.
00:31:40
But Brad doesn't would've loved that.
00:31:42
Listen, I think it's ridiculous.
00:31:45
I gave him ****.
00:31:46
Look, yeah, I do.
00:31:48
I think about missing.
00:31:49
Have you? No, it shouldn't be 300 ****ing pounds.
00:31:52
It should be to 65.
00:31:54
Because guess what.
00:31:55
There's a lot of massive men in the UFC.
00:31:58
Everybody from Brock Lesner to Stefan Struve, Toe Alexander Volkov, who was six ****ing 10.
00:32:05
Mark Hunt.
00:32:06
There's been some big, big, big, big boys in there.
00:32:09
And for whatever reason, they all make to 65.
00:32:12
Greg ****ing Chardy Hardy.
00:32:14
We're not making new rules for you, Fatboy.
00:32:17
Lose a little bit of muscle, little bit of weight.
00:32:20
**** off.
00:32:21
Like Jesus Christ, if you can't cut the to 65 lay off the ****ing steroids, homeboy.
00:32:28
You ain't that tall, for ****'s sakes.
00:32:31
You know what I mean? What the ****? You're not semi ****.
00:32:36
My dude make to 65.
00:32:38
To be fair.
00:32:39
Like you said, he made it on the second go around.
00:32:42
Come on.
00:32:43
You can't be missing way, heavyweight.
00:32:45
Seriously, Jeremiah was their brother.
00:32:47
Yeah, pound for pound.
00:32:48
And the greatest of all time is two different things.
00:32:50
And a lot of people don't really know the difference between the two.
00:32:52
I don't think I don't think that they don't know the difference.
00:32:54
I don't think they care because I'm so tired of talking about time upon him.
00:33:00
Honestly, Yeah.
00:33:01
It just depends on everybody's opinion.
00:33:03
Is different. Opinion is different.
00:33:05
Uh, ever Kobe Bryant could rest in peace.
00:33:08
Kobe Bryant could have won 20 championships and they're still being one or two *******s.
00:33:11
That goes, Michael Jordan was better.
00:33:13
Well, right, right, right, right, right, right.
00:33:15
So it doesn't really matter, but opinion thing.
00:33:18
But you're missing the point.
00:33:19
Uh, it just became back and beat Rocco. Jackie Orr Romero.
00:33:22
That would have been amazing.
00:33:23
Exactly.
00:33:24
But here's the thing.
00:33:26
Here's the thing.
00:33:28
And I I respect gsp as sort of a businessman and a smart guy for this, but he would have never took those fights.
00:33:34
No.
00:33:35
Hell, no.
00:33:36
But that's also why BJ pins my favorite fighter.
00:33:41
It's also why I respect Anderson Silva.
00:33:45
Even if it was James Irvine and Forrest Griffin that he fought it to 05 Um, you know, I don't blame George.
00:33:55
And listen, he was smart, right? His the way his career reads.
00:33:59
He won the middleweight belt against Michael Bisbee.
00:34:02
Um, but but he would have never taken those fights because he wouldn't want him.
00:34:06
So no guts, no glory.
00:34:08
But I understand why he wouldn't have, like, you said he's not an idiot.
00:34:12
GSPC far, dude, Uh, Johnson is a bit off in that, too.
00:34:16
Like we were saying he's in.
00:34:17
He's in a John Wick.
00:34:19
£25 will be a freak show.
00:34:21
You get a bunch of super fat, dude, just tryingto it goes back to like, the UFC one ****ing era.
00:34:27
I watched the well, of course, John is a go because he was a current power pound best.
00:34:31
There you go. Exactly.
00:34:33
I'm really mad at that.
00:34:35
I am at that.
00:34:36
Yeah, and and And the second Jon Jones puts his foot in the cage for his first heavyweight bout.
00:34:41
Regards.
00:34:42
Who is who is against? Because, you know, we know he's more than likely gonna win.
00:34:45
Let me say this, though.
00:34:48
I do say that Whereas I do agree with that in this very moment, I think that if it be never fights again, that doesn't last very long.
00:34:57
I'll put you I guess we're gonna talk about in a moment.
00:35:00
Um, for me is he's one fight away from winning that spot.
00:35:04
If is, he beats yon.
00:35:06
Sorry, Habib, you are no longer than I mean is he's also undefeated on at that point.
00:35:11
If he moves up like sorry.
00:35:14
Sorry.
00:35:15
Like it? If is he gets that again, I won't get we won't get into.
00:35:17
But like that.
00:35:18
So for now, Yes.
00:35:21
But in order to keep that, Bebe has got to keep fighting.
00:35:24
If he never fights again, that won't last for long.
00:35:26
I'm sorry.
00:35:27
Like Justin Gates.
00:35:28
He's a very his last three wins were very incredible.
00:35:29
But those end up being the last three fights of his career ever.
00:35:32
And the sport continues to keep going without him, if somebody is going to surpass him.
00:35:37
Gotcha.
00:35:38
Uh, seven binders.
00:35:39
Anderson said it was something else.
00:35:40
Silver made that look easy because there was no that everyone would have made it look easy.
00:35:43
I was just on that was that was a while, but what the ****? I just want to say I owe Cairo's.
00:35:51
I just want to say I always thought you were a Pepsi guy more than a Coca Cola.
00:35:55
You know what's funny about that, Carlos? I am my punk ass. Kids like coke.
00:35:59
So I got stuck with this nasty thing.
00:36:00
****.
00:36:01
I am more pressure. Quite frankly, I'm more of a mountain Dew guy.
00:36:03
My ****ing even redneck ****ing hillbilly **** start.
00:36:07
I like the citrusy ****, but the punk ass kids the coach was the only thing that was cold.
00:36:10
So I feel like a bit more coffee.
00:36:13
Like, that's what I like to have. Usually coffee.
00:36:16
The coach ****ing stick on my throat.
00:36:18
Also had the a kid out earlier.
00:36:21
So my photo screaming at her. Uh huh.
00:36:24
Uh, Kobe.
00:36:25
Jorge.
00:36:26
Who's got for badass American belt? Well, I'll answer that.
00:36:29
They're both taking a l today or tomorrow.
00:36:31
If she continues the way it's going there, you one's gonna have to shut the **** up.
00:36:36
And the other one's got to find a new ****ing, uh, a new ****ing gim****.
00:36:40
So we'll see.
00:36:41
But if there was a fight between them two who is the winner? Yes, As much as it pains me to say it, probably Kobe, I suppose Jorge could pull off the old been aspirin.
00:36:53
He could been aspirin.
00:36:54
He could land up there.
00:36:55
Not necessarily a flying me.
00:36:56
But he could land a big shot and maybe get Colby out of there.
00:37:00
But if it goes 3 to 5 rounds, I think eventually Kobe, you know, ends up ****ing wrestle.
00:37:05
****ing whatever.
00:37:07
Whatever Usman did.
00:37:09
Touma's McCall, I think Kobe could, and probably a little easier scene is how they extensively trained with each other in the past.
00:37:16
So, like it pains me to say it.
00:37:18
But I would have to favor Kobe going in there, knowing that MAS model has the potential toe lay in the first round or two to lay him out with any strike.
00:37:28
But it's like if he does not land that perfect strike, it's Kobe's fight to lose, and I understand that he's wrestling and grappling is very underrated, totally agree, right? I would have a hard time saying it's as good as Kobe, but maybe we'll get to see it.
00:37:42
So all right, Jeremiah says I was about to say Is he's on his way 90% If Sonny piece John, do you think John Jones dropped back to five? Well, first of all I talk about is he moving up to fight? Yeah, Now, it wasn't completely unexpected, but I did not expect the announcement when Daniel I gave it.
00:37:58
So I think it's a March.
00:38:00
February sometime in 2021 early, we're going to get easier to Sonya taking on young black, which was two or five belt.
00:38:08
What? I mean hey, I'm here for it.
00:38:12
There's not a lot more left.
00:38:13
There's not a lot less than 85 a son.
00:38:16
I'm more than here for it.
00:38:18
I ****ing absolutely love and adore it since Robert Whitaker beat Cannon near. I'm sorry.
00:38:25
I'll give **** what you all say.
00:38:27
Uh, Whitaker didn't do **** in the till fight or the Canadair fight.
00:38:31
That makes me think he has anything for Izzy.
00:38:34
I just don't feel like there's a need for the rematch.
00:38:38
Um, I said that right after Whitaker beat ****ing cannon near I I, for one and a static.
00:38:46
This is he's moving up and trying to fight that to a five belt, because a it looks it's amazing on a bunch of levels.
00:38:52
Right? Hey, we get to see Is he tested right? And that's what we really want right now.
00:38:58
Look, he ****ing I know the ol fight was boring, but nonetheless, he beat you. L steamrolled.
00:39:03
Robert Whitaker steamrolled all their brunt's.
00:39:06
On the whole, most of them steamroll Paul Acosta.
00:39:08
He has looked fan ****ing tastic.
00:39:12
Um, had a knock down, drag out war with Kelvin gas and stuff.
00:39:16
Let me quick side note here.
00:39:18
Everybody points to the fact that you know, Habib's never been hurt in a fight. And don't get me wrong.
00:39:23
That is super impressive.
00:39:24
But is that more impressive? Or is the fact that Adesanya got the for **** knocked out of him several times against Gasol? Um, and said I will ****ing die in here.
00:39:37
And they came out in that fifth round and beat, like, for me like, it's impressive that Bebe hasn't had to do that.
00:39:45
But I almost put more stock in knowing the is.
00:39:48
He can get dragged into that deep water and still swim like he's almost mawr of a complete fighter.
00:39:54
In my opinion, because of that, uh, yeah.
00:39:58
No, no.
00:39:59
I was gonna say I respect it more. That's all I say.
00:40:01
I respect the Is he having a fight like through adversity, then at the university? Okay.
00:40:09
Anyways, quick shot, I'd be Well, we want to see what is He can do him moving up to two or five and fighting Yon is perfect because a it's a very good test.
00:40:23
But let's keep it the being here.
00:40:24
Yang has looked good, But if you get the looking through, your yang's gotta launch Tiago.
00:40:31
He got some.
00:40:32
Let me tell you all something right now.
00:40:33
Let me go ahead and ruin the end of the story for you all.
00:40:36
Is he about the **** young block of each other? He about toe beat the **** out of that big white boy and y'all Because I'm telling you, yawn has power and he's aggressive.
00:40:48
And if he clips Izzy, I might be eating the **** out of some crow.
00:40:52
I just think that is He's too good of a striker.
00:40:54
I don't think he gets hit by Yon.
00:40:56
And I think he puts him right on the kisser.
00:40:58
And I think he steam Rosie on the first or second round and it puts him on a whole different plateau.
00:41:03
Now, the discussion going back to John Jones, it gets very different.
00:41:07
So let's just keep it here for a moment.
00:41:09
Um, I love the fight.
00:41:11
I love the Easy is going to get a good test.
00:41:13
I personally think that he's gonna ****ing pass it with flying colors, which makes the division and the sport in general, even mawr interesting.
00:41:22
And I've got something else.
00:41:23
I'm gonna throw in there just as a thing.
00:41:25
Once we get the John Jones, But that's sort of my thoughts on that.
00:41:27
What do you think about the fight? Like what? You're kind of like overall those I assume you're in the same ****ing But what's not the ****ing like here? That's your ****ing, uh, a New Zealander or a massive Robert Whitaker fan who who's not on board with this, But but go ahead, E.
00:41:41
Look, two of us wide open shore.
00:41:44
But the reason I'm so excited about this fight, first of all I'm with you is gonna is gonna win that fight.
00:41:48
He didn't win that fight.
00:41:49
And the first thing I thought about when you when? When? When? When they announced this fight was Tiago Santos.
00:41:55
I'm like if Thiago could take out Young, he's gonna take a yacht, and it's not gonna be and it'll be easier, Right? But what I love about this is that it gets us closer to the zebras, Jon Jones.
00:42:07
Because there's no way the old king doesn't look back and it goes this mother****er.
00:42:13
Alright, *****, I'm gonna take this heavyweight belt, never come back, get my old belt.
00:42:18
We're gonna We're gonna make some money off of this ****.
00:42:20
We're gonna make a trilogy out of this ****. Probably.
00:42:23
And it's good.
00:42:24
Is going down is gonna be the biggest fight.
00:42:26
Of course, every ****ing ****ing fights.
00:42:28
The biggest fight that's legitimately could go down as the biggest fight and light heavyweight history.
00:42:34
If John Jones comes back to take him to take his ****ing crown, dude, that would be ****ing wild, all right? Yes, Absolutely.
00:42:44
I agree with everything.
00:42:46
And then all this ****ing sort of drama we've had with John Jones and Izzy justified.
00:42:51
Now I'm gonna take even a step from now.
00:42:54
Listen, I know all the **** that I'm about to say is a bunch of hyperbole.
00:42:58
Most of it probably won't happen.
00:43:00
But just ride with me here.
00:43:02
I would.
00:43:03
This is what I would love to see happen.
00:43:06
I think it would be very interesting.
00:43:07
Right on the last broadcast for the for the Ryan Hall Anderson Silva fight.
00:43:12
We've seen they did the big rollout for the ultimate fighter.
00:43:15
E think they've recently said I think it's gonna be bantamweight and middleweights.
00:43:19
Okay? Who the coaches are are very important.
00:43:25
It's very integral toe having, um Ah, good season and a season that people really want to tune in for now.
00:43:31
The problem with that is they usually make the coaches fight.
00:43:35
And that fight doesn't happen until long after, because you don't want to ruin it while the show is being ****ing film.
00:43:41
So on so forth.
00:43:42
None of us like that, right? I was thinking, What if you did that? But you need the coaches that have a rivalry, right? You need there to be smoke or it just it's not a ***y.
00:43:51
Otherwise, it doesn't matter, Right? I thought, What did we do? This make? Is he and John the coaches but don't have them fighting each other yet have John fighting for the heavyweight belt training to fight for the heavyweight belt and have Izzy training to fight for the two of five belt while they're filming it with the understanding that if they both win, they meet it 205 and they fight for all the marbles or ****ing, Maybe they need a headway.
00:44:31
I don't know and is he could go for all three belts.
00:44:32
Either way, he's the middle way.
00:44:34
He's the champ is he will have to belts at that point, John will have one belt, but technically two of five is still his.
00:44:40
They somewhere, and they fight for all the god**** marbles in the world.
00:44:44
They're both undefeated.
00:44:46
It's the **** that ****ing Vince McMahon gets.
00:44:48
Boehner's over in the middle of the night and you don't necessarily postponed because they're not fighting each other during the filming of the show.
00:44:56
They're just picking at each other and building that, but they're still training for their own respect.
00:45:01
The fights in the zone directions.
00:45:02
I was thinking of the early days, so that would be very, very ****ing interesting.
00:45:06
And that would be ****ing insane.
00:45:08
And every one of those things where you need to cry for that one.
00:45:11
Oh, yeah, but But that's the thing by that.
00:45:13
By the time that the films the finale, uh, is he fight John And I mean, look at this point, uh, steep has to fight Francis.
00:45:24
And then and then John would have to fight the winner of that to get so you'd be talking late late next year anyways, but it would be for all the ****ing marbles.
00:45:32
Jacks hopefully get a craft with that.
00:45:34
Not being same beside Daniel is gonna want to maximize as much because they're gonna be asking for a lot of ****ing money to make that happen.
00:45:40
Can you think about that? Can you imagine? Say is he does move up.
00:45:44
You want it to a five.
00:45:46
John actually gets the heavyweight belt, and they just do the fight with them a heavyweight.
00:45:50
And is he is going for his third belt.
00:45:53
Who we call him the Oh, that ****.
00:45:56
And you know, it's crazy how fast the sport changes, right? Look at what we're talking.
00:46:00
Look at what we're talking about with the Beeb.
00:46:02
Now you imagine.
00:46:03
Is these two fights away from taking it from John and Habib? If he beats John and then beats John a heavyweight hyper ****ing aesthetically, it bro.
00:46:13
Two years from now, you're looking at easy as our ****ing Ali.
00:46:17
That something better are Floyd Mayweather, Whatever the **** you ****ing crazy cars has both.
00:46:23
They're talking about Jorge and Kobe. Both their market power.
00:46:26
They're gone. It's anyone's game now. Yeah.
00:46:29
There you go.
00:46:30
Everybody slow down in the biting W. That's the fast.
00:46:33
My friend Daniel Weiss, got this.
00:46:34
I don't give a **** about who is going to steal our ****ing tax money next year, the next four years right there.
00:46:39
But they're both thieves.
00:46:41
Um, honestly, what's left? 25 Arizona, maybe, ERM Instead, he beats till exactly what he's moving up Exactly.
00:46:48
This is, realistically, the perfect metaphor.
00:46:50
Adesanya agreed.
00:46:52
Mhm.
00:46:53
What could turn down the is very much, Dana said No.
00:46:56
And Whitaker came out and immediately thought, because No, no, no, no, I didn't turn it down now.
00:47:00
I didn't hear what he actually told Dana White, But what I'm assuming is Dana White gave him a date.
00:47:06
And Whitaker is like, not right, right.
00:47:09
That's how that goes.
00:47:10
That's how that usually when somebody turns down a fight, it's because they throw a date out or something, and particularly as they listen.
00:47:16
I'm celebrating Thanksgiving this year.
00:47:18
I think I could be wrong, but what? I heard Waas Robert Whitaker's air waiting, his fourth child fighting a lot.
00:47:25
He wants to enjoy the holidays.
00:47:27
I think his kids doing like January or February, so I think his his vibe is, you know, he's not training for nothing else right now.
00:47:33
He's gonna enjoy the holidays.
00:47:35
He's gonna prepare for his new child.
00:47:37
And then, you know, I'll hit you all up in March or April.
00:47:39
Roll with my kids a month or two old, and I had a chance to sort of And I mean, you know, listen ****ing broke.
00:47:44
You deserve it, you know? Go. Go.
00:47:48
Have your child enjoy the holidays.
00:47:50
D W You guys got plenty of fighters on deck? **** off and look, to be fair, they did.
00:47:55
They just sit is yet to fight. Yang.
00:47:57
We're all happy.
00:47:58
Is large because of it. Everything.
00:48:00
You 1 85 will be there after its kids born.
00:48:02
He's able to enjoy that.
00:48:03
Um, and this is just lead up.
00:48:06
Too easy was John.
00:48:07
Imagine if easy wins and they wait until John Possibility we strap baseball history.
00:48:10
It's like we were talking about. Exactly. Exactly.
00:48:12
I mean, there's a lot of ifs and maybes there in this.
00:48:14
Yeah, but like, hypothetically, if it did, boy, would that be ****ing crazy? Right? And it's quite possible, and a lot of a lot of things that the drop in the in the right spot about that happen, But it could happen.
00:48:26
And you know what's crazy about that? Just in our crazy hypothetical scenario here.
00:48:30
If that did happen, it would have just this big implications for John.
00:48:35
If is he beat John and hypothetically was the first man to beat John Jones and become the first man to become the three weight champion, putting all the way up to heavyweight.
00:48:45
It would be undeniable that at least for that very moment, he would be the ultimate goat period.
00:48:50
No question about it.
00:48:51
No doubt about it, period on the side.
00:48:55
If John beats Steep pay or Francis and wins the belt and then an undefeated is, he moves up and John beats him.
00:49:05
Yeah, it's over.
00:49:06
Forget about John rides.
00:49:07
Often. Y'all can all suck his ****.
00:49:09
It's like if that fight happens, whoever wins dog, they win it all that.
00:49:14
It's for all the marbles, dog, if we get there like, Whoa, that would be such a I mean when you talk about legacy and what it all means, like if we got there with those gentlemen and they didn't suffer defeat getting that point, that would be just the biggest fight legacy wise.
00:49:32
You could ever possibly make that.
00:49:34
We'll talk about that.
00:49:35
Met him. If I shouldn't even count now.
00:49:37
But if that happens, if that happens, go back and expunge that bull****.
00:49:41
Get rid of that.
00:49:42
Defeated.
00:49:43
He's undefeated, bro.
00:49:44
I don't know what you'll all be out there on.
00:49:47
Like for me.
00:49:48
I I stopped counting that fight 13 seconds over.
00:49:52
Like that fight.
00:49:53
John Jones is undefeated.
00:49:55
Is he? Is undefeated.
00:49:57
E.
00:49:58
I mean, yeah, I don't Biltmore.
00:50:00
Count that on John's record than the man on the moon and break.
00:50:03
He's still a champion in my book.
00:50:05
I know he's not holding the belt, but like he, bro.
00:50:07
Yeah, John has been a champion since he beat show gun that night, in my opinion.
00:50:13
And so somebody takes it from that man in that age.
00:50:16
He's a chair, period.
00:50:18
Exactly.
00:50:19
No, I'm waiting on that.
00:50:20
Um, all right.
00:50:21
Next up, one of the deals grows up to who's got next to think and his Nick ever returning Hashtag Stockton.
00:50:27
Hashtag tuna A Sfar.
00:50:29
A snake goes, There's no word yet he he was negotiating and then, you know, you know it is.
00:50:34
Then he wasn't And that dude's not beyond ****ing sitting out 23 years and then getting another fight and then coming back and being relevant just just just how he is.
00:50:43
Nick has been training pretty consistently.
00:50:46
You could see it all over social media over everybody else's social media that trains with him.
00:50:50
Um, as far as like who could fight or when he's coming back, who knows who against? I don't know.
00:50:56
I would have to say it against Conde, just running back for the hell of it.
00:50:59
But a lot of people keep throwing out Jorge measured.
00:51:01
Also, you can come in, uh, an adventure.
00:51:03
Little brothers lost, but, uh, but I don't know he's been training, so we'll see.
00:51:08
I think both of them will fight.
00:51:10
I think some of them will fight in 2021.
00:51:12
I think we see the return of Nick Diaz.
00:51:14
I have no idea against you, but I do.
00:51:16
I don't think he's doing all this training for nothing, right? And makes always Neitz out.
00:51:21
There are they're ****ing mind.
00:51:22
I love the Diaz brothers, but there are other ****, But listen, they're out of their mind for better and for worse.
00:51:29
They're out of their mind and that if you rub them the wrong way, they'll never fight again, but they're also out of their mind.
00:51:36
And the if the right opportunity presents itself going the right way, they'll fight January.
00:51:41
There, like maybe is will fight your mama tomorrow if the situation's right, like right and and probably a lot of other things incentives where it's at, like there's a lot of **** that goes into these things these days.
00:51:54
Nate has a whole team of fighters.
00:51:55
I'm sure there's a lot of things they could do to make him happy.
00:51:57
But if they do make no mistake about it, it's not because they're worried or fearful or don't want to get her like they're always they they might not never fight again.
00:52:09
But if they get the right situation, they're on the same card tomorrow to like that's That's how.
00:52:15
That's why you see Nate all of a sudden just come back and ****ing fight whoever the **** like out of nowhere like they they will fight.
00:52:23
You just gotta make him the right offer, right? And if you are wondering, go look at Nate Diaz.
00:52:28
Uh, Instagram like when he was talking about her hair, I actually looked at it.
00:52:32
Hey, just drove his ass to San Francisco.
00:52:34
And he's outside of, well, the last.
00:52:35
The last ****ing thing in a story outside of Nino Training center.
00:52:38
By the way, I've been there.
00:52:40
It's a dope ****ing place I got to do.
00:52:41
Ah, drop in a couple years ago, Joe ****ing Jim to go to over.
00:52:45
But it's ****ing what, 7, 30 and nine. California.
00:52:49
That man's about it. That's his life.
00:52:51
Let me tell you right now, the dust and counter fight is signed, right? Right? Uh, e I think so.
00:53:01
I think so.
00:53:02
I e think it's like January 24th.
00:53:04
I think I think I think that's a done deal.
00:53:06
Let's for the sake of argument for the sake of making my god**** point here, let's say that's a done deal, son.
00:53:12
If Dustin drops out three days before that fight and they call Nate and they give it, you'll see Nate fight in six weeks.
00:53:24
It s so that's what I'm saying.
00:53:26
Nate might never fight again or under the right cir***stances.
00:53:30
Night might fight Connor in January.
00:53:33
It's the fan, right? Like again? Nate was on a boat getting drunk when he fought kind of the first time anyway.
00:53:40
he's always ready to rock and roll.
00:53:43
If the situation is right, we could see them back sooner rather than later.
00:53:46
But to answer your question, I do think they both fight next year.
00:53:49
No idea who.
00:53:50
But they will fight next year.
00:53:51
Both.
00:53:52
Yeah, and they had to buy that.
00:53:53
Dudes always training no matter what.
00:53:54
He and being waiting for a car to start came he just doing because that's who he is, all right.
00:53:58
For the record, I think Nick is, too.
00:54:01
I don't think always in and fight shape, but like these videos of Nick Diaz drinking and Drunk Surface.
00:54:08
But you have to keep in mind, Man.
00:54:10
Nick's been a lifelong vegan.
00:54:11
He stays in triathlons.
00:54:14
He stays doing jiu jitsu.
00:54:16
He might not be competing, but I don't think the Knicks not the sort of guy that, like let's himself right.
00:54:22
He's a ****ing ninja man.
00:54:23
He's a real martial artist.
00:54:25
He will be like that forever.
00:54:26
So don't make me out there.
00:54:28
He's acting too point.
00:54:30
McGary is not official, so we'll see what we'll see this make it ****ing official already got ****.
00:54:37
Alright.
00:54:38
What about the thinking? Very quick and then we'll go into a little last segment and get out of here.
00:54:42
Just looking at the Oh ****.
00:54:45
Anthony Perkins back in the U S.
00:54:46
C No ****.
00:54:48
That dude, if you don't know, I've gotten in a train at at his at his gym down in Tucson.
00:54:53
He's a dope ****ing dude, But he hasn't found you have seen him forever.
00:54:57
He's back.
00:54:58
Thinking was talking.
00:54:59
Lopez, Max Griffin's on this card during the damages on this ****ing car with this awful god**** tattoo.
00:55:05
Do markets get aggregator that lima still in the U.
00:55:08
S.
00:55:09
C. I did not know that he's gonna undefeated Alexander Romanov.
00:55:11
Uh, driven goals of Bevin Lewis.
00:55:13
Not bad.
00:55:14
This is an ESPN ESPN cards. It's not bad.
00:55:17
Cadre Cadel against yon John in Jenin.
00:55:21
Yeah, I guess you would say.
00:55:23
Then Ian Highnesses back to Colonel Brandon Alan Ronnie Barcella taking a Collotta and Andrei Arlovski still ****ing doing against Tanner Boozer.
00:55:32
And of course, the main event.
00:55:33
The one everyone's talking about something is Glover Teixeira winner More than like this, it is up for a title shot.
00:55:39
Um, at some point depending on what happens in the union eso what you're thinking on that main event.
00:55:45
Who you picking? I mean, look, one would assume Tiago Santos right? Like it's kind of hard, big lover, even though Glover's obviously like that, that quintessential ****ing wily veteran like Who could always win? I think.
00:56:00
But I just I don't know, dog.
00:56:03
I was never high on Anthony Smith.
00:56:05
I know he's a great guy.
00:56:07
Decent commentator home.
00:56:09
I was never sold on him as a talent.
00:56:12
I feel like he beats him over the hill.
00:56:14
Guys, I feel like he beat the right dudes were shot and show gun and ****.
00:56:19
I mean, that was like he'd be owes me or somebody a couple legit winds on his run.
00:56:23
But I was just never sold on him.
00:56:26
Um, so global beating him It was a good win for globe. Er, no doubt.
00:56:34
I just don't think Tiago Santos is that I do think that glow over is old.
00:56:39
I do think that I think that what we saw from Global last time was sort of I could be wrong, but I feel like that might have been like his last call for alcohol.
00:56:48
Like, I don't think he comes out and does that to Tiago because I could be wrong.
00:56:53
But I think Tiago, Unless unless those knees or we're really ****ed up from the John fight, I think Tiago's probably gonna come out and beat the **** out of Global and Global is gonna wanna look 41 years old in this fight.
00:57:04
I think this is not Glover against hate to throw him under the bus again.
00:57:09
Anthony Smith, Um, this is terrorism is not gonna lay down for global to share if for any reason Anthony Smith sort of laid down a little bit, it seems like to me in that fight, kinda kinda didn't want to be in there.
00:57:22
So it's not just gonna be that guy.
00:57:24
And I was coming off a double knee surgery or whatever, double knee injuries and all that, but he's gonna be there for it.
00:57:30
Glover has what it takes to get the windows Saturday.
00:57:32
Glover doesn't get his credit for the amount of damage he dishes out on the ground. Agreed.
00:57:36
But you've got to get to the ground, right, alright.
00:57:39
And tacos gonna Tiago's gonna land a few hammers to the ****ing chin before that happens.
00:57:44
Please believe that **** So that is this weekend.
00:57:47
Uh, this is ESPN two, but they've been, you know, dual ****ing, uh, broadcasting these cars and ****.
00:57:54
So I'm assuming also watching on ESPN plus on this Saturday night.
00:57:58
All right, So you had an idea for a little last segment, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:05
Alright.
00:58:06
Eso just towards the end of the show, I feel like before we were going life and I was just thinking, actually, I'll tell you exactly how the inception for this idea started.
00:58:14
Um, I was watching the Roy Jones Jr podcast with Joe Rogan a couple weeks ago, and at some point, they brought up Marvin Hagler.
00:58:26
And I, like, obviously know who. Marvin.
00:58:28
For those of you who might not know which would bring me around to the segment, Marvin Hagler was a boxer.
00:58:32
Uh, ****ing like eighties, early eighties E.
00:58:39
I don't think it was quite the seventies, and I'm gonna say that it was the eighties.
00:58:43
Anyway, I was hit him who Marvin Hagler was.
00:58:46
But I wasn't exactly hit to his whole career in a lot of his fights and stuff.
00:58:50
Obviously, there's the very famous fight Hagler, Hearns, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler.
00:58:54
which was probably the greatest boxing match ever.
00:58:59
Um, but during the Roy Jones Jr Joe Rogan podcast, they were talking about ****ing Marvin Hagler and just how amazing he was.
00:59:08
And it was such a you know, they made such an impression that I paused the podcast I brought on YouTube.
00:59:13
But I looked up a couple of ****ing highlight reels of his and I watched a short do***entary, and wow, what a ****ing career the guy had.
00:59:21
What a ****ing fighter for all of you out there who might have watched Floyd Mayweather or call some of these mawr than less than entertaining boxing matches lately on you might not think you like boxing.
00:59:34
I would highly recommend you go back and look at some Marvin Hagler fights.
00:59:39
Um, Marvin Hagler highlights.
00:59:41
Or, at the very least, go back and watch Marvin Hagler verse Thomas Hearns.
00:59:46
The first round of that fight was ****ing chaos.
00:59:51
I mean, it is one of the absolute best rounds in combat sports history.
00:59:57
Both of those dudes.
00:59:58
Toughest nails, strongest **** power punchers just rocking the **** out of each other back and forth.
01:00:07
It was ****ing incredible, but, uh, Marvin Hagler when his whole career, He lost two fights.
01:00:16
Oh, fights.
01:00:17
He lost by decision.
01:00:18
He came back and knocked out both of those men.
01:00:22
He was never not down in his whole career.
01:00:26
And he got ****ing thunderstruck by Thomas Hearns.
01:00:30
I think he did get knocked down once, but it was like a slip.
01:00:32
He stepped on his shoe.
01:00:33
He never got cleanly knocked down, Not one time in his whole career.
01:00:38
And he was an aggressive power punching strikers.
01:00:41
So he would give one, you know, take one to give one.
01:00:43
Never got knocked down the very last fight of his career.
01:00:47
He lost the fight to Sugar Ray Leonard who? A lot of people thought that he very well, one.
01:00:53
But the mother****er was such a G that he was like, Listen, if I am here to destroy men, I quit.
01:01:02
He lost a very close fight.
01:01:04
The ****ing sugar Ray Leonard, who obviously went on to be one of the greatest box of all time to and again, keep in mind, a lot of people thought that he actually won that fight because he was the champion of the time and it was sort of like you need to beat the chance to ****ing take the belt.
01:01:16
And Sugar Ray didn't quite do that.
01:01:19
Marvin Hagler said **** on, y'all.
01:01:21
I quit.
01:01:22
He moved the ****ing Paris and became a ****ing act.
01:01:25
He's still out there getting white *****.
01:01:27
Marvin Hagler is the ****ing man.
01:01:30
It brings us around at the end of every podcast.
01:01:32
I would like for me and you to just throw out a fighter, possibly a new guy that we might be hip on.
01:01:37
But more than likely, maybe just the older fighter could be boxer kickboxer.
01:01:42
Mm.
01:01:43
A valley to does it.
01:01:44
Yeah, There's somebody who the fans might not be aware of and just recommend that so that they could go out.
01:01:52
Check that fighter out.
01:01:53
So for the first little statement, I just told you so if you don't get a fire tonight, okay.
01:01:58
Perfect.
01:02:00
Marvin Hagler, Marvin Hagler let go.
01:02:03
And the fight.
01:02:04
If you don't know what Marvin Hagler verse top comic turns Go Look that fight up.
01:02:10
****ing thank me later.
01:02:11
You're watching a few times.
01:02:13
Believe me, it's sure.
01:02:14
Alright, So as soon as you mentioned Is this this segment? The idea the Onley person I could think of Jack Johnson.
01:02:21
Jack Johnson was, I want to say it was the very first black heavyweight champion in boxing.
01:02:28
I want to send 100 U.
01:02:30
S.
01:02:31
We're talking like Jim Crow era.
01:02:34
We're talking like Dude was insane, right? He hit her fight against James Jeffries and stuff like to fight of the century.
01:02:41
He was around for Ken Burns.
01:02:42
Anyone knows photography, Those who Ken Burns is or film making those who can burns is he's that old.
01:02:47
He's back in the day and Ken Burns is actually quoted as saying.
01:02:51
For more than 13 years, Jack Johnson was the most famous and the most notorious African American on earth.
01:02:56
Dude transcended boxing cause he was ****ing insane.
01:02:59
Here's why.
01:03:00
He's one of my favorites.
01:03:01
Besides the fact that he felt like 95 times, he won 1970 of them.
01:03:05
Um, and he's like 11 losses, and he had a bunch of draws two and a couple of contests.
01:03:09
But the the guy think about this is back in the day, like 19 tens, you know, in before right, this dude opened up a night restaurant nightclub.
01:03:20
He was married toe to a white woman.
01:03:23
He was known to mess around with white women.
01:03:26
This dude went to jail for violating what's called the Mann Act, which is, uh, basically, you're not back what this is.
01:03:32
This is just saying, if you don't know about this, it basically forbid anybody to transport a woman across state lines for moral purposes.
01:03:39
If that doesn't sound like a trap, because the ****ing it was a trap, Right? So you got sent it to a year in prison.
01:03:46
He building.
01:03:47
Hey, got the **** out of Dodge.
01:03:49
I know where he went, but he fought, like, oversee, you know, wherever another country.
01:03:53
For a while.
01:03:54
This you took fights forever, right? And crazy life had a ****ing insane life.
01:04:00
And then the day dies in a car crash at 16 years old.
01:04:04
So if that's not like a god**** you.
01:04:06
But this mother****er lived so Jack Johnson, there's no video of them.
01:04:11
There's photos everywhere.
01:04:12
Read up on this story is one of the most interesting ****ing stories ever I've ever read or heard of.
01:04:17
That mother****er is a legend that, like nobody talks about anymore, but definitely worth reading about.
01:04:23
So Jack Johnson and from what I heard from what I from what I like you said for what I've heard about him was a ****ing beast.
01:04:30
Hell, you kill just killing those white boys.
01:04:33
I think that's back.
01:04:34
They would fight ****ing, like, 30 40 60 80 rounds or some crazy **** like that.
01:04:38
Yeah, like that's probably what it was like, a man.
01:04:40
I'm gonna marry a white woman.
01:04:41
Okay? You get to do whatever you want, Jack. Who going? You know.
01:04:46
So he's that dude usedto he used to get, like, he's loved driving really fast, but obviously the car crash, but he just he used to love driving fast so he would drive, get really fast, get pulled over, get the couple of 100 bucks in town.
01:04:58
I'm gonna driving just as fast, if not faster on the way back.
01:05:01
So just heads up.
01:05:02
You know what's funny about that Quickly? Uh, for any of you out there who may have seen Harlem nights? Yeah.
01:05:08
If I'm not mistaking the boxer from Harlem nights, the one that got the study of the doing, I think he's loosely based on Jack.
01:05:17
You're supposed to be the big black box or other time which is like, I think that was supposed to be loosely based on that character.
01:05:24
Yeah, but if you think about the time to do was alive and doing all that **** you like God **** is a bad mother****er.
01:05:29
Yeah, for sure for sure this is cool. I like this segment.
01:05:33
This would be that would be really cool.
01:05:34
We'll do this every week.
01:05:35
Very.
01:05:36
In the episode, we'll throw out just sort of an obscure fighter that you ****suckers to go look up and become more acquainted with.
01:05:41
Yeah, so we got a week to figure out the next one.
01:05:42
So Ugo Alright, folks, you guys stupid.
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jump into the keyboard. Warriors.
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We have to keep worries.
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My name is very low. It's for Kirby.
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Shooting **** about M m A.
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In your face is while you guys air Hopefully don't watching Daniel Container Siri's And, of course, waiting for the world to end.
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So just last week, Indio, you're right.
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Hall knocked out our our legend.
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Um, at one point, the goat Anderson Silva gets koto, and Danny White comes out after one says he should have never let him fight.
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Was it that bad to you? Um, my on one hand, Yes, it on one hand.
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Know on one hand.
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Yeah.
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It was a little disparaging seeing Anderson Silva get dropped like that with a punch that I think we all assumed he would have just walked through.
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You know, 5, 10 years ago, Anderson had a iron chin s o.
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Yeah, In that essence, I think it was a little sad, but to be completely fair in comparison to some of the guys we've seen in their B J.
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Penn to name ****ing one right off the top of my head, I thought Anderson looked ok.
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E I mean, I didn't think you looked like, terribly outmatched.
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I think it's safe to say that, you know, he shouldn't be in there with the elite of the elite.
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No more of the man's 45 ****ing years old, for ****'s sakes.
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I didn't think he looked ****ing horrible.
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Like, what are we doing here, like with TJ? Um, but he's clearly a shell of himself, so I suppose it just depends on how you look at the situation.
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How did you look at? How did you personally look at it? Okay, look, the way I saw it is he was not doing that back.
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In fact, some argue that he was he was actually holding his own.
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And, you know, he had a couple of things like around into his boat. Right.
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Um, I think the fact that he got knocked that was with a seemingly glancing blow is what scared the **** out of everybody and made him think like he ain't got **** left.
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Right? Um e don't know, dude.
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****.
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It was because I was watching it.
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And I was I was holding my kid at the same time so he wouldn't let me pay attention.
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But, um what I saw, I think Anderson was fine after he was doing great.
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Do you think maybe it's because Dana White like because maybe Anderson didn't like leaving the clubs in the middle of the case until Dana White That he was like, Thank you.
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Didn't I think UFC because he didn't do any of that ****.
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In fact, he kinda left the door open to fight again.
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Well, I have to go back and watch all the clothes and ****, but I feel like maybe he has one more fight on his UFC contract.
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But Dana don't want to give him that fight because they feel like they've seen it up.
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So I don't know.
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I think the question might become Are they gonna hold his one fight and basically make him retire? Or will they go ahead and let him go to another company? I e.
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I hope and assume they would let him go on this point.
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I mean, he's not the draw he once used to be.
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It would be a prick.
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Move to just end his career like that to just hold.
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That might be like you can't find anywhere else or we'll sue you, but we're not gonna get one fight we owe you.
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Either That's sort of a **** move either giving this fight or go ahead and let him out of his contract.
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But again, I do think that it's ****ing quite obvious and clear the Andersons best days are behind me.
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I know. I don't.
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I don't really have a major desire toe watch Anderson Silva get beat up at this point in his life and career.
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It doesn't mean a whole lot for me.
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It doesn't answer any questions or nothing.
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So it's just it's the same dude that ****ing gave Izzy a kind of a pretty hard time in that.
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Like, Hey, give him a hard time.
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I think you know, I don't know, Dude, I wonder those things.
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I I he that fight was close.
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E I feel like there was some sort of weird respect.
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I feel like it is.
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He wanted toe like he was in.
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Ah, yeah.
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What does he didn't I feel like an Anderson Silva when a grab is these little sisters ass or something? E **** out of him like I feel like if there would have been the same sort of smoke that he had a Acosta where he really wanted to prove a point.
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I think he would have destroyed Anderson.
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Um, I could be wrong about that, but I just feel like it was one of those things where he was just sort of having fun with him in there and not really, really going for it.
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I don't think it was because of how good Anderson is.
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Don't get me wrong.
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I think Anderson still has some talent because I mean again, he's one of the most talented fighters that ever lived, but also isn't the WWF man, the W W e.
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Whatever, Um, it's real life. And he's 45.
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He's going to slow down.
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His power is gonna like his timing is going to start being a little off.
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I mean, there's just no way to get around these things.
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It is what it is, right? I mean, the older you get to start getting all that, so it makes complete sense.
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Um, we got a bunch of comments or quick.
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Uh, what's up? Adam says Anderson Silva is B J Pan. **** off.
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No.
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**** off with that.
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Maybe on UFC four.
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Adam, not we're not doing that **** like, uh, boxing, right? Oh, this.
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What's up, man? Who's you lose your the weekend? How is it not Maurice Greene for dropping the ball against Greg Hardy? Did he dropped the ball or his Greg Hardy getting that **** good? No, Greg Hardy is not that I'm so ****ing sick and tired of Greg Hardy man or not even Greg Hardy.
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Just this.
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I tell you what I tell you what with Greg Hardy.
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Alright, The Volkoff fight.
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Cute. Fair enough.
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He lost it, but he went the distance. All right.
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Boom, boom, boom.
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Bring him in against Maurice Greene.
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Yeah, alright.
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A decent fighter.
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I'm tired of ****ing with Greg Hardy. Alright.
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Derek Lewis is fighting.
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Who? Derek Lewis has got a fight coming up. He's fighting.
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Uh, Curtis Blades.
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I'll be I'll be I'll be nice.
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The loser.
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You get the loser of that fight.
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I'm tired of playing with, you know.
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Listen, let's either let Greg Hardy get their ****ing ass whooping that all of us want to see him take or let's let him get a signature win.
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That shuts us up.
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I don't want to see him fighting the Maurice Greene's of the World no more.
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I don't give a ****. He won.
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So what, e I mean, at the end of the day? So what? Like, you know, I'm ready for him to sink or swim, man, you know, he's had his fights in the UFC.
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I realized he just started training not too long ago.
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I don't give a ****.
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He went five rounds with Volkov not too long ago.
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He's ready to sink or swim.
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Give that man, Derek.
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Quite frankly, I would love to see him fight Derek Lewis.
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For me.
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That fights. Brilliant.
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We all know how Derek feels about women beaters.
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You all know that Derrick Lewis would have no problem, uh, trying to intimidate him for being a leader.
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We know that Greg Hardy would try to act like a tough guy.
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I ****ing love it.
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Not to mention the fight would be fireworks, and I'm pretty sure Greg Hardy would actually finally get his come up.
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And I'm pretty sure Derek Lewis we're getting that ass.
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So, you know, whatever, man.
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His whatever race green don't mean a whole lot of nothing to mean. Congrats.
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But like I'm ready to see you take on a real guy enough with your mouth right now.
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I'm kind of I'm done with.
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I'm done with the hype on Greg Hardy.
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Not I'm done with all of it, though.
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I just don't like hearing about him.
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I'm saying just like that, as a fighter.
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Put him in there against someone.
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Riel, you think of sweat and see what happens.
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Right? Right.
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All right, All right.
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Otis, Who's your winner of the weekend? And how is it not Bryce Mental for moving up the ladder with his win over Andre Fielea? I gave him quite a bit of credit on this on this wind, because under if it is so god**** like, like, like, experienced right now was a decision Shore Rough fight for sure.
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Um, we'll fight for Andre because Bryce kind of kept taking them down and everything, but, um, what do you think I'm Bryce Mental here is he arrives here.
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You're gonna throw him at, like, top 15.
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Stop tens.
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What's up? Uh, let's see here.
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I don't know.
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I look, I like Bryce Mitchell.
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All right? I like him.
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I love his personality.
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I know he's the ****ing anti massacre.
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I'll tell you what I think it makes him a ****ing idiot.
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But I like that.
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I like that.
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He's not indifferent.
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Love him or you hate him.
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I enjoy that about him.
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He's exciting.
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He's got an entertaining fight style, and he seems to be very talented now.
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That being said, I'm still not sold on what exactly his ceiling is when I picture him fighting the elite, he's at 45 right? Or were featherweight with him, right? Okay.
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So when I think about him fighting the Brian Ortega's or the Korean zombies of the world or the Calvin caters, I don't know, I'm not.
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Look, he's cute, but I'm still very much I'm not there yet.
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I I think his next fight will be very.
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I tell you what.
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I'd like to see him fight. Next is Jerramy Stevens.
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I want to see him fight somebody, because I don't know yet.
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I mean, listen, he looks good, but 45 is deep dog.
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I mean, and you got some ****ing killers at the top of that division, like, you know, he's a good grappler.
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Do I think he wants any sort of smoked with Tea City? Do I think he could strike with do I think he could do anything with Brian Ortega on? You know, this is Korean Zombie fight notwithstanding.
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I mean, I don't think so.
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Do I think he would be able to impose his grappling game on the Korean Zombie? Could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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So, you know, let's see that they're against somebody like Jeremy Stevens or something.
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And let's just see if he could actually handle a now.
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If he could do if he could go in there and and submit Jeremy or get a good win over somebody like that, that's right at that sort of, uh, you know, Top seven Thio 11 12 tear guy.
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Then we'll revisit this conversation.
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Listen, Andre Feely is a tough dude.
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Ah, veteran Goodwin.
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Um but But I don't want to get to ****ing carried away with Bryce.
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Get I'm intrigued, though.
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I'm still with him.
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I'm just not like, you know, my ****ing get on the Homs ****ing hype training started wild.
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I I'm not sold just yet.
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He looks good, though.
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He looked really good.
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He did what he needed to do.
00:10:10
Right Before we move up this card to a quick we don't talk about your alcohol.
00:10:13
Um, how much other than just name is this win over Anderson Silva to you? As far as your right hog goes And his sensitive ****ing ass, it means honestly, dude, I feel like I I hate these fights.
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E hate these fights for everybody.
00:10:36
Well, I don't hate the fight for Anderson, because if Anderson gets lucky and lands a crazy kick or something, go out on a high note against a decent opponent.
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I hate this fight for your i a hall and then I hate what? What? What? Everybody is able to do it now.
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You're I a Hall B J Ryan Hall.
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Excuse me.
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Right.
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Hall has ah knockout win over Anderson Silva.
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But I'm sorry to me being ah, lifelong fan of the sport.
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And I saw the guy that made Forrest Griffin looked like he didn't belong in the sport.
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I saw the guy that when Vitor Belfort was ****ing decapitating everybody in the first minute of the fight, I saw that guy front kick him in the ****ing chin.
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I saw Anderson do incredible things.
00:11:31
So for me, your I A Hall does not have a knockout win over Anderson Silva.
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He beat somebody.
00:11:40
Yeah.
00:11:41
Yeah.
00:11:42
You know what? I like that.
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I like that he be Anderson Silva.
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He beat Peter Parker, that mother****ing and beat Spider Man.
00:11:49
He didn't beat the spider.
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I'm just you.
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It's not a knock to your IA because he didn't have the opportunity to fight the spider.
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But for me, it's a real ****. I know.
00:12:00
I'm just I'm a B J Penn **** writer, but I'm going to the same thing with Uriah Hall.
00:12:04
Your riot? Haldin Hill hook B J. Penn.
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He didn't He'll hook the guy that got his black belt in four ****ing years and and ****ing, you know, because right who I say.
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Yeah, My bad.
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Yeah, Same jive dog.
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Hall did not.
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He'll hook B J. Penn.
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He he'll hook the ****ing coat out.
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****ing drunk.
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40.
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Like, I just don't think these fights are fair.
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Man, you take these aging veterans who are just like clearly past the twilight of their career.
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You put him in there with someone of a young lion, young lion eats him, and then it's like, Oh, God! Minute B. J.
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Penn or you knocked out Anderson Silva.
00:12:49
It just seems a little disingenuous to be completely honest. Like I don't.
00:12:54
It rubs me wrong.
00:12:55
I'm sorry.
00:12:56
I don't love it.
00:12:57
Yeah, I know.
00:12:58
To me, I win over Anderson Silva is like the same as the one of her Shokhin, who at this point, then the brothers, they don't really mean much, like Okay, cool.
00:13:06
If you're if you're not paying attention, you're like, Oh, should he be? So So it's cool.
00:13:09
I'm gonna watch this, dude.
00:13:10
But in that, even, like for the last handful of years No, no, no, no.
00:13:15
It wasn't Spider.
00:13:17
It was It was this Anderson, a 45 year old Anderson Silva.
00:13:21
When you win, when you win is extremely important.
00:13:25
You think about, um, Matt Metreon and Ryan Bader both have knockout winds over Fader.
00:13:34
Now, if you rewind back to when Fedor was fighting Crow Cup, if one of those ****ing **** bird as **** losers would have starts to fade, or at that time the world would have caught on fire.
00:13:47
It matters when you do it like you that that's why it's so important when guys fight in their prime.
00:13:55
And then what happens in that fight is very important when Rampage beat Chuck and Pride.
00:14:01
That was very important.
00:14:02
And then when he beat him again in the UFC when they were both still right in that range very important, they could fight now.
00:14:09
And who really gives a ****? I mean, ****, Chuck might not rampage out.
00:14:13
Now look prime example.
00:14:15
And I know I'm completely in the weeds here, guys.
00:14:16
But Tito and Chuck e Chuck beat the **** out of Tito twice when they were both fighting.
00:14:23
And then they fall again 37 years later and Tito knocks chuck out.
00:14:28
Data Ortiz, don't knock out Chuck Liddell.
00:14:30
Goddammit! That's not the way the universe works.
00:14:33
But if mother****ers fighting their late forties there early fifties, it's stupid sort of man.
00:14:39
So in some weird way, I feel like if we're gonna let these, uh, veterans compete, they would be fighting each other Dog, it's not fair toe.
00:14:48
Let them fight young guys that are just gonna make him look stupid on their way out.
00:14:52
It's not fair and just setting enough to look studio because it looks stupid and just, you know, just for a name, that's it.
00:14:58
So they're doing it for and It's not even a real name anymore. Exactly.
00:15:01
Shell of that name, Zubair.
00:15:03
Anyone that knows Don't know that ****.
00:15:05
All right? E was throwing out the fight announcement.
00:15:08
Whoa! Whoa! Okay.
00:15:10
Wonder boys.
00:15:11
Jeff Neal.
00:15:12
Whoa! I hadn't heard that.
00:15:13
That is interesting.
00:15:15
That's ****ing amazing.
00:15:16
I love that fight.
00:15:18
Now we're gonna see what time it is with Jeff Nil.
00:15:21
Jeff knows a bad mother****er, but now we're about to see, like you can knock out the mother****ers that can't strike.
00:15:27
But one thing you gotta have Wonderboy, the Tyron Woodley fights notwithstanding, the mother****er can strike.
00:15:35
You know he don't Usually, it's ironic that Tyron Woodley has had the most success striking against Wonder Boy other than pennies with one big punch.
00:15:43
But like Paris was getting his ass whipped until that point.
00:15:45
That fight, but like, ironically enough, Tyron Woodley is the one.
00:15:48
Do I tell you, man, I think the threat of grappling fighting a really like like Habib Habib does very well.
00:15:57
The striking the people are so scared to death of his grappling such a different ****ing sort of a different thing.
00:16:05
Like I think Wonder Boy was so worried about Taiwan's grappling that enabled tire on the night.
00:16:09
The **** I like it if they were in a kickboxing match.
00:16:12
I just don't imagine that Iran has that same success against Wonderboy.
00:16:16
No, like you said it right, whether doesn't have the kind of resting that he's well that he's rumored to have.
00:16:21
We have seen that **** ****ing forever.
00:16:22
Um, then then for sure.
00:16:24
Wonderful to knock the **** out of him.
00:16:26
Uh, he's a He's a nice fight.
00:16:29
Honestly, I'm on the heat by Michelle Waters and you see 2 57 Lovely fight.
00:16:34
Yeah, fine.
00:16:35
We'll find out exactly how good Revis is.
00:16:38
I love that.
00:16:39
Yeah, it's a big fights.
00:16:40
Also a big time show water because it could be make or break this point like she lose this fight.
00:16:45
You could kiss on the champ.
00:16:46
Mom. ****. Goodbye.
00:16:47
Um UK Converse Calvillo.
00:16:50
Here's the award for who gives a ****? Uh oh.
00:16:54
There are fighters you don't like, and I'm sorry I'm again.
00:16:58
E I don't know what it is about UK again.
00:17:01
Her name.
00:17:02
I'm just like, why do we got can she get just get beat watching her, All right? I don't know what it is.
00:17:08
But come on, Calvillo.
00:17:09
Don't ****ing test positive for pot or nothing.
00:17:12
I'm not being e think of.
00:17:15
Educating with me, though, is that she is ****ing annoying.
00:17:20
I don't know why.
00:17:21
That's all I could think of is I'm annoyed.
00:17:23
You got the fight against you know what? It was here.
00:17:26
This She got the fight against Shevchenko, and she was like, I'm gonna be there.
00:17:30
I'm going to guess her out.
00:17:31
I'm gonna be I'm gonna move.
00:17:32
What? I'm gonna hit her.
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And when she tried to hit me back, I'm not even gonna be there anymore.
00:17:36
And I think they're going like, have you seen this Shevchenko fight check? You aren't leading this dance.
00:17:41
The Finkel is gonna smack the tar out of you.
00:17:43
And then what happened? Exactly that Chu Kagan, for having such a unique name has the most unforgettable face in the world for me.
00:17:52
I can't picture her ****ing face e.
00:17:55
I don't I don't know what she looks like.
00:17:56
I've watched her 513 times and I still don't know what she looks like.
00:17:59
She's just so forgettable for me.
00:18:01
E don't know what I think, but Yeah, you Kegan **** off that you were gonna say nothing personal.
00:18:07
I just e All right.
00:18:10
Here's one that annoy the **** out of me and and kinda continues to my parents.
00:18:13
Tim Means used to 55 was supposed to be Robbie Lawler Lawler out due to injury.
00:18:18
Ah, lot of people were like, Hey, give him give a hazmat Mohamed's not Jamaica.
00:18:23
And no, they made a hamster versus Leon Edwards.
00:18:26
So we got 10 10 means of MK Perry.
00:18:29
We think I like it.
00:18:31
I mean, if we can't if we can't have Robbie, I think, yeah, I mean, it'll be a fun fight will be a good scrap.
00:18:38
Perry will probably lose and be on his way out of the You have seen more than likely.
00:18:42
Uh, it was supposed to be like I said, ****ing Robbie Lawler.
00:18:46
But Tim Means is a very suitable replacement to keep it entertaining.
00:18:49
Fight? Yeah, I met him.
00:18:51
I met him.
00:18:53
Right.
00:18:54
Here's interesting one.
00:18:55
I like it. Dominic Razor. Jerry Poe.
00:18:57
Triska. Nice.
00:18:58
Little risky.
00:18:59
Piper Ray is who's you know.
00:19:00
I know he just lost title.
00:19:01
Fight the belt to He lost the title fight to to good old Yon who will be talking about here soon, You know, shortly.
00:19:10
But whenever Yeary, I think, gets him right back in that you know, title shot possession.
00:19:15
But I lost against him, puts him into, you know, gatekeeper status.
00:19:19
Sort of we think about despite.
00:19:22
I love it.
00:19:23
I love it.
00:19:24
I think the year he sort of deserves a chance, especially with light heavyweight being sort of completely up in the air right now and a little light.
00:19:31
Anyways, Onda also, Dominic needs a fight that he should win.
00:19:37
But he also needs to sort of prove himself at this point.
00:19:40
E I mean, look, all y'all could say whatever you all want, he lost that Jon Jones fight.
00:19:44
He lost in the books.
00:19:47
It was a L.
00:19:48
And then he definitely lost the yard.
00:19:51
So he's coming off of two ****ing definitive losses in a row.
00:19:54
The man needs a w to What the **** isn't about guys that Mike John Jones coming back looking the same.
00:20:00
Like I know we have Glover vs Carlos Sanchez this weekend and I'm hyped about started coming back, but I can't help but feel like we're going to see like a show that do because it's almost like Jon Jones.
00:20:10
No matter how could you do against them, take something from you every time.
00:20:14
It's ****ing insane.
00:20:16
I mean, I don't I don't want to get into it, really, because we got into so much last week.
00:20:20
But, yeah, I think I think John gets a lot of flak because of how annoying he is.
00:20:27
Um, he's a real easy due to hate on.
00:20:31
And then he had the steroid thing.
00:20:33
So people, it's, you know, it's even Mawr.
00:20:35
But honestly, dog, if you judge John just based off of what happens in that cage, even the fights that air close, even the fights that air close John is still hurting you.
00:20:49
He's kicking you in the knees.
00:20:51
He's kicking you in the legs.
00:20:52
He's landing his shots like nobody dominates John.
00:20:57
If anything, you're like, Well, maybe John lost that fight.
00:21:00
Dominic did really good.
00:21:02
Tiago did really good, But John hurts you.
00:21:05
John hits you everywhere, like John, honestly in the cage, there's no I don't go for with.
00:21:10
Nobody says not to be.
00:21:12
That beats a very dominant fighter, and he looks good right now, but when you're just talking about overall legacy and career and ****, dog.
00:21:18
Nobody touches Jon Jones.
00:21:20
Sorry.
00:21:21
Yeah.
00:21:22
So I guess we'll see what they would raise has left.
00:21:24
And if you're he deserves a shot at some point, uh, cereal game versus J D s for us to 56.
00:21:29
Hyper that one.
00:21:30
I love that.
00:21:31
You know what, man? I didn't give.
00:21:33
I always like to give ****ing **** Mailer and Sean Shelby ****.
00:21:36
I'm I'm gonna go silver mark.
00:21:38
But you know what? I also like to be a fair guy.
00:21:42
They've been Loki killing it, man.
00:21:44
These were some really good.
00:21:45
That's a That's a great matchup to man. That's good.
00:21:48
Matchmaking makes me wonder if they like called. I do.
00:21:52
Hey, we'll give you a couple grand, give us a couple of fights here and see what happens.
00:21:55
And you just go.
00:21:56
There you go Where you want, man? These air.
00:21:58
These are some pretty good fights, man.
00:21:59
These air really, really good fights for both guys.
00:22:03
You know, gain has that sort of Could he be the guy? The next big thing, a heavyweight.
00:22:09
And then you got JDS who has been there forever.
00:22:12
We all know, he sort of has the potential on the right night to knock anybody out.
00:22:15
So can you kind of take out this hungry up and comer? Very good fight, man. Love it.
00:22:20
Love it.
00:22:21
Too bad we don't have president anymore, says says Rader.
00:22:24
Hardy Lewis will be fun at that presser.
00:22:26
You just be like destroying him on the microphone.
00:22:30
You know what? You know what I love Almost more than anything in life, nothing brings me more joy.
00:22:37
And I mean this man, nothing brings me more joy than seeing a bully get bullied, bullied, then seeing a bully meet another bigger Alfa male.
00:22:49
That's not a bully.
00:22:50
But like I, Derek Lewis is a ****ing God amongst men.
00:22:54
Love that.
00:22:56
He that he goes because he's such a big like who's gonna believe him? Like you might even beat him up in a fight.
00:23:05
But you do not bully Derek Lewis.
00:23:07
It don't happen, period.
00:23:09
Point blank.
00:23:10
You might beat him up, but you don't bully it like I loved it.
00:23:14
Like Derek would be able to come out and be ableto poke.
00:23:18
Greg Hardy and Greg Hardy might have this sort of I'm in up and coming tough guy when you're fighting.
00:23:24
All due respect to the Maurice Greene's in the world that don't work against mother****ing Derek Lewis, son, he is not gonna be shook it all.
00:23:32
He's going to get right in your face.
00:23:34
He's gonna say **** that irks you.
00:23:36
And guess what? It ain't gonna be a god**** thing you could do about it.
00:23:40
Even when that cage door shuts and you get your chance, come get you some.
00:23:44
Derek Lewis is gonna be there the whole time.
00:23:46
He's gonna pull your whole cart, He's gonna be smarter, wittier and funnier, stronger, bigger and taller and a better just I love that.
00:23:54
I would love to see Greg Hardy have to fight a guy who's gonna talk **** who's gonna eat it and what and what you gonna do about it it up for the table over like you.
00:24:05
You're gonna be with a man who's not scared of you a bit like you gonna be nervous How that gonna feel when you got Derrick Lewis up in your face like what you want to do about it Now, don't get me wrong.
00:24:17
I'm not saying Greg here are gonna be a terrified, But you definitely will not be the Alfa male of the table. No longer.
00:24:23
And that will be a parent.
00:24:24
At the very least, you're gonna have to fight really hard to get it for sure.
00:24:28
Not not only that, you might be them, but you're gonna pay for it. You're dancing.
00:24:32
Gonna pay for it, right? This this is not more rescreen.
00:24:35
And again to give the heart is a little bit of respect.
00:24:37
He did go with with vocal for five rounds.
00:24:40
All right, He's not a complete chump.
00:24:42
Then again, vocal danced around with Derek Lewis.
00:24:45
Five rounds of Derek.
00:24:46
What? One time is vocal.
00:24:49
So you know Derek Lewis will sleep you if you don't get ****ing two Q Am I I ****ing love that I would love even **** the pressers.
00:24:59
Let's just do you like this.
00:25:01
I just want to hear Derek Lewis run his mouth to ****ing Greg Hardy and Greg Hardy just had to take it because he gave about it.
00:25:08
Greg Hardy is trying to say anything back.
00:25:09
Anyway, Brad, tomorrow's shoot.
00:25:11
Is that that 2 57? Okay, that's all it on e a junior.
00:25:16
I agree with Fred.
00:25:17
How was supposed to be? Was supposed to be silver.
00:25:19
Honestly, Silver should have been facing Widener.
00:25:20
Jocko agreed.
00:25:22
How has to go for guys like gasoline Rematch or your Romero Silver should been fighting Weidmann for sure.
00:25:27
That's the perfect.
00:25:29
Why hasn't that happened? Yeah, I don't know.
00:25:31
I don't know.
00:25:32
But like, yeah, putting him in there with Hall was just ridiculous.
00:25:34
And like I said, it almost kind of sucks for Hall, because it's just like, Okay, Okay, so you knocked out Anderson and his last fight ever.
00:25:41
Where he's clearly a show of himself, like riel talk.
00:25:46
I know I always talk **** about GSP, but if we wanted to really, really get into this pound for pound discussion and **** and even with me taking on my bull**** aside, GSP did come back and win a belt at a way above that.
00:26:00
That's true.
00:26:02
He does deserves credit.
00:26:03
But if we're keeping in the bean when that fight didn't favor him, he didn't want it when Anderson was the champion and wanted it, and the whole world wanted it.
00:26:14
He didn't want it because he knew it wasn't a good fight.
00:26:17
When biz being was there and the mother****er's got one I can't see And he is close to retirement.
00:26:24
You come back and take the fight like you deserve credit, because you won.
00:26:28
But it was also busy things very last fight.
00:26:31
And literally a year and a half later, the dudes popping his eyeball out of his head literally, he could not.
00:26:36
So it's like all these things sort of matter, bro.
00:26:39
You didn't come back and beat Robert Whitaker that.
00:26:43
Let me take some George George, come back and be easy and taking third main like you come back and be easy and ****ing.
00:26:55
But But you know you won't.
00:26:57
You know you don't come back and fight Usman, let alone.
00:27:00
Is he now? I will say that George was smart, but But again, catching guys at the twilight of their career, beating the **** out of them and then taking a bunch of credit for it rubs me the wrong way.
00:27:11
Yeah, sorry.
00:27:12
Uh, I rather see Nico presses.
00:27:15
Mike Perry agreed.
00:27:16
I really want to be Oh, how surprised were you that John didn't kill that guy? I don't know if you saw it, but there's a video security video from his house.
00:27:25
Some dude walked out the John Jones driveway and started trying to break into cars and **** or got into one of the trucks or whatever.
00:27:33
Then John Jones walked out of his garage with a shotgun.
00:27:36
Do takes off running, and John Jones goes after his ass with his shotgun.
00:27:41
So how's the president? They just didn't kill that guy.
00:27:45
Um, I suppose very surprised.
00:27:48
But beyond all that, I guess my first initial thing would be is, uh, where we're at now.
00:27:56
Albuquerque, New Mexico is a Have they? Have they taken the new crown for the dumbest ****ing people on earth again? News flash.
00:28:05
Guys, I don't know if you guys understand this, and apparently the world does.
00:28:09
Apparently nobody really gets it.
00:28:11
John Jones is the baddest mother****er standing on 2 ft.
00:28:16
If you want to rob somebody, I would suggest you pick anybody on Earth that do Jon Jones like, who are these people? Not only.
00:28:29
And if you know anything about John.
00:28:31
Hey, with no weapons but naked, Jon Jones is the baddest man on earth.
00:28:37
And I'll kill you.
00:28:38
Be He's got a ****ing attack dog.
00:28:41
German Shepherd.
00:28:42
That he trained to a word.
00:28:44
And now apparently he knows how to shoot guns and ****.
00:28:49
So leave that man alone.
00:28:52
He snorts coke.
00:28:53
He's ****ing nuts.
00:28:54
Y'all ****ing plan with John Jones, this mother****er trying to become John Wick and **** on coat **** is like the dude is already the baddest man on the planet with no weapons.
00:29:08
And now he's learning how to shoot guns, and he's got a big ass attack dog.
00:29:12
I suggest you all don't try to rob John.
00:29:14
John, are you guys? There's a bunch of other houses on that block, buddy.
00:29:18
Pick another one. I promise you got a better chance.
00:29:20
Like, do your research.
00:29:22
You are picking literally the worst house on earth short of a Tim Kennedy or an exploit Navy.
00:29:27
Still, Dude, you don't want to rob that guy.
00:29:30
If that guy catches you, he's going to put you in a hurt locker from hell that if you don't shoot you like dude, please know what the ****'s marriage? You guys, all due respect.
00:29:42
John Jones is not Anthony Lionheart. Smith.
00:29:45
Yeah, right, right, right.
00:29:47
All due respect exactly.
00:29:48
John grabs you.
00:29:50
You're in bad shape and that, like That's when John's coked out playing games.
00:29:56
I do again all the bull**** that people say about John Jones.
00:29:59
I do believe that he absolutely loves his family.
00:30:03
And I do believe that he is somewhat of a normal guy.
00:30:06
I think he loves his daughters.
00:30:07
I think that if you broken John Jones house, he would rip your mother****ing head off your shoulders.
00:30:12
I think we're gonna come **** with his kids.
00:30:15
Good luck.
00:30:16
If John thought you about to hurt his kids and he got his paws on you, bro, you are about to get ripped apart.
00:30:24
Pick another.
00:30:25
You gonna wish the dog bit you.
00:30:26
Dude, you get that on video, actually going viral forever.
00:30:30
Oh, he's gonna throw you through walls like I don't think you understand.
00:30:34
Like God rest his soul as as mean and as vicious as Kimbo.
00:30:40
Look, John Jones is 10 times that mean real life.
00:30:45
He might look a little goofy and he's skinny.
00:30:47
That man can fight well, he knows how to hurt you bad.
00:30:52
Don't be going to fool around by that man's house now he knows how to shoot guns and ****.
00:30:55
All better.
00:30:56
Stop playing with John Jones, please stop playing with him.
00:30:59
You notice how he ran after the mother****er like he's ready to rock and roll with.
00:31:04
Not only is he ready, he's looking forward at this point.
00:31:07
He wants to find out if he could do this ****.
00:31:09
So leave that man alone, Mother****ers.
00:31:12
Leave him alone.
00:31:13
****ing H Q crackheads.
00:31:14
No ****.
00:31:15
What the ****? Y'all gonna pick a different house? Your ****ing idiots? Only one guy.
00:31:19
There's only one crackhead I know that I would send over there just for fun.
00:31:22
All right, well, you all think about Hardy missing with a heavyweight.
00:31:26
It should be 300.
00:31:27
My opinion that this big ****s fight he didn't miss.
00:31:29
Wait.
00:31:30
Okay. You're right. He missed the first.
00:31:32
Yeah, I ended up being, like a pound and a half under.
00:31:36
Should it be 300? No, that's too much.
00:31:40
But Brad doesn't would've loved that.
00:31:42
Listen, I think it's ridiculous.
00:31:45
I gave him ****.
00:31:46
Look, yeah, I do.
00:31:48
I think about missing.
00:31:49
Have you? No, it shouldn't be 300 ****ing pounds.
00:31:52
It should be to 65.
00:31:54
Because guess what.
00:31:55
There's a lot of massive men in the UFC.
00:31:58
Everybody from Brock Lesner to Stefan Struve, Toe Alexander Volkov, who was six ****ing 10.
00:32:05
Mark Hunt.
00:32:06
There's been some big, big, big, big boys in there.
00:32:09
And for whatever reason, they all make to 65.
00:32:12
Greg ****ing Chardy Hardy.
00:32:14
We're not making new rules for you, Fatboy.
00:32:17
Lose a little bit of muscle, little bit of weight.
00:32:20
**** off.
00:32:21
Like Jesus Christ, if you can't cut the to 65 lay off the ****ing steroids, homeboy.
00:32:28
You ain't that tall, for ****'s sakes.
00:32:31
You know what I mean? What the ****? You're not semi ****.
00:32:36
My dude make to 65.
00:32:38
To be fair.
00:32:39
Like you said, he made it on the second go around.
00:32:42
Come on.
00:32:43
You can't be missing way, heavyweight.
00:32:45
Seriously, Jeremiah was their brother.
00:32:47
Yeah, pound for pound.
00:32:48
And the greatest of all time is two different things.
00:32:50
And a lot of people don't really know the difference between the two.
00:32:52
I don't think I don't think that they don't know the difference.
00:32:54
I don't think they care because I'm so tired of talking about time upon him.
00:33:00
Honestly, Yeah.
00:33:01
It just depends on everybody's opinion.
00:33:03
Is different. Opinion is different.
00:33:05
Uh, ever Kobe Bryant could rest in peace.
00:33:08
Kobe Bryant could have won 20 championships and they're still being one or two *******s.
00:33:11
That goes, Michael Jordan was better.
00:33:13
Well, right, right, right, right, right, right.
00:33:15
So it doesn't really matter, but opinion thing.
00:33:18
But you're missing the point.
00:33:19
Uh, it just became back and beat Rocco. Jackie Orr Romero.
00:33:22
That would have been amazing.
00:33:23
Exactly.
00:33:24
But here's the thing.
00:33:26
Here's the thing.
00:33:28
And I I respect gsp as sort of a businessman and a smart guy for this, but he would have never took those fights.
00:33:34
No.
00:33:35
Hell, no.
00:33:36
But that's also why BJ pins my favorite fighter.
00:33:41
It's also why I respect Anderson Silva.
00:33:45
Even if it was James Irvine and Forrest Griffin that he fought it to 05 Um, you know, I don't blame George.
00:33:55
And listen, he was smart, right? His the way his career reads.
00:33:59
He won the middleweight belt against Michael Bisbee.
00:34:02
Um, but but he would have never taken those fights because he wouldn't want him.
00:34:06
So no guts, no glory.
00:34:08
But I understand why he wouldn't have, like, you said he's not an idiot.
00:34:12
GSPC far, dude, Uh, Johnson is a bit off in that, too.
00:34:16
Like we were saying he's in.
00:34:17
He's in a John Wick.
00:34:19
£25 will be a freak show.
00:34:21
You get a bunch of super fat, dude, just tryingto it goes back to like, the UFC one ****ing era.
00:34:27
I watched the well, of course, John is a go because he was a current power pound best.
00:34:31
There you go. Exactly.
00:34:33
I'm really mad at that.
00:34:35
I am at that.
00:34:36
Yeah, and and And the second Jon Jones puts his foot in the cage for his first heavyweight bout.
00:34:41
Regards.
00:34:42
Who is who is against? Because, you know, we know he's more than likely gonna win.
00:34:45
Let me say this, though.
00:34:48
I do say that Whereas I do agree with that in this very moment, I think that if it be never fights again, that doesn't last very long.
00:34:57
I'll put you I guess we're gonna talk about in a moment.
00:35:00
Um, for me is he's one fight away from winning that spot.
00:35:04
If is, he beats yon.
00:35:06
Sorry, Habib, you are no longer than I mean is he's also undefeated on at that point.
00:35:11
If he moves up like sorry.
00:35:14
Sorry.
00:35:15
Like it? If is he gets that again, I won't get we won't get into.
00:35:17
But like that.
00:35:18
So for now, Yes.
00:35:21
But in order to keep that, Bebe has got to keep fighting.
00:35:24
If he never fights again, that won't last for long.
00:35:26
I'm sorry.
00:35:27
Like Justin Gates.
00:35:28
He's a very his last three wins were very incredible.
00:35:29
But those end up being the last three fights of his career ever.
00:35:32
And the sport continues to keep going without him, if somebody is going to surpass him.
00:35:37
Gotcha.
00:35:38
Uh, seven binders.
00:35:39
Anderson said it was something else.
00:35:40
Silver made that look easy because there was no that everyone would have made it look easy.
00:35:43
I was just on that was that was a while, but what the ****? I just want to say I owe Cairo's.
00:35:51
I just want to say I always thought you were a Pepsi guy more than a Coca Cola.
00:35:55
You know what's funny about that, Carlos? I am my punk ass. Kids like coke.
00:35:59
So I got stuck with this nasty thing.
00:36:00
****.
00:36:01
I am more pressure. Quite frankly, I'm more of a mountain Dew guy.
00:36:03
My ****ing even redneck ****ing hillbilly **** start.
00:36:07
I like the citrusy ****, but the punk ass kids the coach was the only thing that was cold.
00:36:10
So I feel like a bit more coffee.
00:36:13
Like, that's what I like to have. Usually coffee.
00:36:16
The coach ****ing stick on my throat.
00:36:18
Also had the a kid out earlier.
00:36:21
So my photo screaming at her. Uh huh.
00:36:24
Uh, Kobe.
00:36:25
Jorge.
00:36:26
Who's got for badass American belt? Well, I'll answer that.
00:36:29
They're both taking a l today or tomorrow.
00:36:31
If she continues the way it's going there, you one's gonna have to shut the **** up.
00:36:36
And the other one's got to find a new ****ing, uh, a new ****ing gim****.
00:36:40
So we'll see.
00:36:41
But if there was a fight between them two who is the winner? Yes, As much as it pains me to say it, probably Kobe, I suppose Jorge could pull off the old been aspirin.
00:36:53
He could been aspirin.
00:36:54
He could land up there.
00:36:55
Not necessarily a flying me.
00:36:56
But he could land a big shot and maybe get Colby out of there.
00:37:00
But if it goes 3 to 5 rounds, I think eventually Kobe, you know, ends up ****ing wrestle.
00:37:05
****ing whatever.
00:37:07
Whatever Usman did.
00:37:09
Touma's McCall, I think Kobe could, and probably a little easier scene is how they extensively trained with each other in the past.
00:37:16
So, like it pains me to say it.
00:37:18
But I would have to favor Kobe going in there, knowing that MAS model has the potential toe lay in the first round or two to lay him out with any strike.
00:37:28
But it's like if he does not land that perfect strike, it's Kobe's fight to lose, and I understand that he's wrestling and grappling is very underrated, totally agree, right? I would have a hard time saying it's as good as Kobe, but maybe we'll get to see it.
00:37:42
So all right, Jeremiah says I was about to say Is he's on his way 90% If Sonny piece John, do you think John Jones dropped back to five? Well, first of all I talk about is he moving up to fight? Yeah, Now, it wasn't completely unexpected, but I did not expect the announcement when Daniel I gave it.
00:37:58
So I think it's a March.
00:38:00
February sometime in 2021 early, we're going to get easier to Sonya taking on young black, which was two or five belt.
00:38:08
What? I mean hey, I'm here for it.
00:38:12
There's not a lot more left.
00:38:13
There's not a lot less than 85 a son.
00:38:16
I'm more than here for it.
00:38:18
I ****ing absolutely love and adore it since Robert Whitaker beat Cannon near. I'm sorry.
00:38:25
I'll give **** what you all say.
00:38:27
Uh, Whitaker didn't do **** in the till fight or the Canadair fight.
00:38:31
That makes me think he has anything for Izzy.
00:38:34
I just don't feel like there's a need for the rematch.
00:38:38
Um, I said that right after Whitaker beat ****ing cannon near I I, for one and a static.
00:38:46
This is he's moving up and trying to fight that to a five belt, because a it looks it's amazing on a bunch of levels.
00:38:52
Right? Hey, we get to see Is he tested right? And that's what we really want right now.
00:38:58
Look, he ****ing I know the ol fight was boring, but nonetheless, he beat you. L steamrolled.
00:39:03
Robert Whitaker steamrolled all their brunt's.
00:39:06
On the whole, most of them steamroll Paul Acosta.
00:39:08
He has looked fan ****ing tastic.
00:39:12
Um, had a knock down, drag out war with Kelvin gas and stuff.
00:39:16
Let me quick side note here.
00:39:18
Everybody points to the fact that you know, Habib's never been hurt in a fight. And don't get me wrong.
00:39:23
That is super impressive.
00:39:24
But is that more impressive? Or is the fact that Adesanya got the for **** knocked out of him several times against Gasol? Um, and said I will ****ing die in here.
00:39:37
And they came out in that fifth round and beat, like, for me like, it's impressive that Bebe hasn't had to do that.
00:39:45
But I almost put more stock in knowing the is.
00:39:48
He can get dragged into that deep water and still swim like he's almost mawr of a complete fighter.
00:39:54
In my opinion, because of that, uh, yeah.
00:39:58
No, no.
00:39:59
I was gonna say I respect it more. That's all I say.
00:40:01
I respect the Is he having a fight like through adversity, then at the university? Okay.
00:40:09
Anyways, quick shot, I'd be Well, we want to see what is He can do him moving up to two or five and fighting Yon is perfect because a it's a very good test.
00:40:23
But let's keep it the being here.
00:40:24
Yang has looked good, But if you get the looking through, your yang's gotta launch Tiago.
00:40:31
He got some.
00:40:32
Let me tell you all something right now.
00:40:33
Let me go ahead and ruin the end of the story for you all.
00:40:36
Is he about the **** young block of each other? He about toe beat the **** out of that big white boy and y'all Because I'm telling you, yawn has power and he's aggressive.
00:40:48
And if he clips Izzy, I might be eating the **** out of some crow.
00:40:52
I just think that is He's too good of a striker.
00:40:54
I don't think he gets hit by Yon.
00:40:56
And I think he puts him right on the kisser.
00:40:58
And I think he steam Rosie on the first or second round and it puts him on a whole different plateau.
00:41:03
Now, the discussion going back to John Jones, it gets very different.
00:41:07
So let's just keep it here for a moment.
00:41:09
Um, I love the fight.
00:41:11
I love the Easy is going to get a good test.
00:41:13
I personally think that he's gonna ****ing pass it with flying colors, which makes the division and the sport in general, even mawr interesting.
00:41:22
And I've got something else.
00:41:23
I'm gonna throw in there just as a thing.
00:41:25
Once we get the John Jones, But that's sort of my thoughts on that.
00:41:27
What do you think about the fight? Like what? You're kind of like overall those I assume you're in the same ****ing But what's not the ****ing like here? That's your ****ing, uh, a New Zealander or a massive Robert Whitaker fan who who's not on board with this, But but go ahead, E.
00:41:41
Look, two of us wide open shore.
00:41:44
But the reason I'm so excited about this fight, first of all I'm with you is gonna is gonna win that fight.
00:41:48
He didn't win that fight.
00:41:49
And the first thing I thought about when you when? When? When? When they announced this fight was Tiago Santos.
00:41:55
I'm like if Thiago could take out Young, he's gonna take a yacht, and it's not gonna be and it'll be easier, Right? But what I love about this is that it gets us closer to the zebras, Jon Jones.
00:42:07
Because there's no way the old king doesn't look back and it goes this mother****er.
00:42:13
Alright, *****, I'm gonna take this heavyweight belt, never come back, get my old belt.
00:42:18
We're gonna We're gonna make some money off of this ****.
00:42:20
We're gonna make a trilogy out of this ****. Probably.
00:42:23
And it's good.
00:42:24
Is going down is gonna be the biggest fight.
00:42:26
Of course, every ****ing ****ing fights.
00:42:28
The biggest fight that's legitimately could go down as the biggest fight and light heavyweight history.
00:42:34
If John Jones comes back to take him to take his ****ing crown, dude, that would be ****ing wild, all right? Yes, Absolutely.
00:42:44
I agree with everything.
00:42:46
And then all this ****ing sort of drama we've had with John Jones and Izzy justified.
00:42:51
Now I'm gonna take even a step from now.
00:42:54
Listen, I know all the **** that I'm about to say is a bunch of hyperbole.
00:42:58
Most of it probably won't happen.
00:43:00
But just ride with me here.
00:43:02
I would.
00:43:03
This is what I would love to see happen.
00:43:06
I think it would be very interesting.
00:43:07
Right on the last broadcast for the for the Ryan Hall Anderson Silva fight.
00:43:12
We've seen they did the big rollout for the ultimate fighter.
00:43:15
E think they've recently said I think it's gonna be bantamweight and middleweights.
00:43:19
Okay? Who the coaches are are very important.
00:43:25
It's very integral toe having, um Ah, good season and a season that people really want to tune in for now.
00:43:31
The problem with that is they usually make the coaches fight.
00:43:35
And that fight doesn't happen until long after, because you don't want to ruin it while the show is being ****ing film.
00:43:41
So on so forth.
00:43:42
None of us like that, right? I was thinking, What if you did that? But you need the coaches that have a rivalry, right? You need there to be smoke or it just it's not a ***y.
00:43:51
Otherwise, it doesn't matter, Right? I thought, What did we do? This make? Is he and John the coaches but don't have them fighting each other yet have John fighting for the heavyweight belt training to fight for the heavyweight belt and have Izzy training to fight for the two of five belt while they're filming it with the understanding that if they both win, they meet it 205 and they fight for all the marbles or ****ing, Maybe they need a headway.
00:44:31
I don't know and is he could go for all three belts.
00:44:32
Either way, he's the middle way.
00:44:34
He's the champ is he will have to belts at that point, John will have one belt, but technically two of five is still his.
00:44:40
They somewhere, and they fight for all the god**** marbles in the world.
00:44:44
They're both undefeated.
00:44:46
It's the **** that ****ing Vince McMahon gets.
00:44:48
Boehner's over in the middle of the night and you don't necessarily postponed because they're not fighting each other during the filming of the show.
00:44:56
They're just picking at each other and building that, but they're still training for their own respect.
00:45:01
The fights in the zone directions.
00:45:02
I was thinking of the early days, so that would be very, very ****ing interesting.
00:45:06
And that would be ****ing insane.
00:45:08
And every one of those things where you need to cry for that one.
00:45:11
Oh, yeah, but But that's the thing by that.
00:45:13
By the time that the films the finale, uh, is he fight John And I mean, look at this point, uh, steep has to fight Francis.
00:45:24
And then and then John would have to fight the winner of that to get so you'd be talking late late next year anyways, but it would be for all the ****ing marbles.
00:45:32
Jacks hopefully get a craft with that.
00:45:34
Not being same beside Daniel is gonna want to maximize as much because they're gonna be asking for a lot of ****ing money to make that happen.
00:45:40
Can you think about that? Can you imagine? Say is he does move up.
00:45:44
You want it to a five.
00:45:46
John actually gets the heavyweight belt, and they just do the fight with them a heavyweight.
00:45:50
And is he is going for his third belt.
00:45:53
Who we call him the Oh, that ****.
00:45:56
And you know, it's crazy how fast the sport changes, right? Look at what we're talking.
00:46:00
Look at what we're talking about with the Beeb.
00:46:02
Now you imagine.
00:46:03
Is these two fights away from taking it from John and Habib? If he beats John and then beats John a heavyweight hyper ****ing aesthetically, it bro.
00:46:13
Two years from now, you're looking at easy as our ****ing Ali.
00:46:17
That something better are Floyd Mayweather, Whatever the **** you ****ing crazy cars has both.
00:46:23
They're talking about Jorge and Kobe. Both their market power.
00:46:26
They're gone. It's anyone's game now. Yeah.
00:46:29
There you go.
00:46:30
Everybody slow down in the biting W. That's the fast.
00:46:33
My friend Daniel Weiss, got this.
00:46:34
I don't give a **** about who is going to steal our ****ing tax money next year, the next four years right there.
00:46:39
But they're both thieves.
00:46:41
Um, honestly, what's left? 25 Arizona, maybe, ERM Instead, he beats till exactly what he's moving up Exactly.
00:46:48
This is, realistically, the perfect metaphor.
00:46:50
Adesanya agreed.
00:46:52
Mhm.
00:46:53
What could turn down the is very much, Dana said No.
00:46:56
And Whitaker came out and immediately thought, because No, no, no, no, I didn't turn it down now.
00:47:00
I didn't hear what he actually told Dana White, But what I'm assuming is Dana White gave him a date.
00:47:06
And Whitaker is like, not right, right.
00:47:09
That's how that goes.
00:47:10
That's how that usually when somebody turns down a fight, it's because they throw a date out or something, and particularly as they listen.
00:47:16
I'm celebrating Thanksgiving this year.
00:47:18
I think I could be wrong, but what? I heard Waas Robert Whitaker's air waiting, his fourth child fighting a lot.
00:47:25
He wants to enjoy the holidays.
00:47:27
I think his kids doing like January or February, so I think his his vibe is, you know, he's not training for nothing else right now.
00:47:33
He's gonna enjoy the holidays.
00:47:35
He's gonna prepare for his new child.
00:47:37
And then, you know, I'll hit you all up in March or April.
00:47:39
Roll with my kids a month or two old, and I had a chance to sort of And I mean, you know, listen ****ing broke.
00:47:44
You deserve it, you know? Go. Go.
00:47:48
Have your child enjoy the holidays.
00:47:50
D W You guys got plenty of fighters on deck? **** off and look, to be fair, they did.
00:47:55
They just sit is yet to fight. Yang.
00:47:57
We're all happy.
00:47:58
Is large because of it. Everything.
00:48:00
You 1 85 will be there after its kids born.
00:48:02
He's able to enjoy that.
00:48:03
Um, and this is just lead up.
00:48:06
Too easy was John.
00:48:07
Imagine if easy wins and they wait until John Possibility we strap baseball history.
00:48:10
It's like we were talking about. Exactly. Exactly.
00:48:12
I mean, there's a lot of ifs and maybes there in this.
00:48:14
Yeah, but like, hypothetically, if it did, boy, would that be ****ing crazy? Right? And it's quite possible, and a lot of a lot of things that the drop in the in the right spot about that happen, But it could happen.
00:48:26
And you know what's crazy about that? Just in our crazy hypothetical scenario here.
00:48:30
If that did happen, it would have just this big implications for John.
00:48:35
If is he beat John and hypothetically was the first man to beat John Jones and become the first man to become the three weight champion, putting all the way up to heavyweight.
00:48:45
It would be undeniable that at least for that very moment, he would be the ultimate goat period.
00:48:50
No question about it.
00:48:51
No doubt about it, period on the side.
00:48:55
If John beats Steep pay or Francis and wins the belt and then an undefeated is, he moves up and John beats him.
00:49:05
Yeah, it's over.
00:49:06
Forget about John rides.
00:49:07
Often. Y'all can all suck his ****.
00:49:09
It's like if that fight happens, whoever wins dog, they win it all that.
00:49:14
It's for all the marbles, dog, if we get there like, Whoa, that would be such a I mean when you talk about legacy and what it all means, like if we got there with those gentlemen and they didn't suffer defeat getting that point, that would be just the biggest fight legacy wise.
00:49:32
You could ever possibly make that.
00:49:34
We'll talk about that.
00:49:35
Met him. If I shouldn't even count now.
00:49:37
But if that happens, if that happens, go back and expunge that bull****.
00:49:41
Get rid of that.
00:49:42
Defeated.
00:49:43
He's undefeated, bro.
00:49:44
I don't know what you'll all be out there on.
00:49:47
Like for me.
00:49:48
I I stopped counting that fight 13 seconds over.
00:49:52
Like that fight.
00:49:53
John Jones is undefeated.
00:49:55
Is he? Is undefeated.
00:49:57
E.
00:49:58
I mean, yeah, I don't Biltmore.
00:50:00
Count that on John's record than the man on the moon and break.
00:50:03
He's still a champion in my book.
00:50:05
I know he's not holding the belt, but like he, bro.
00:50:07
Yeah, John has been a champion since he beat show gun that night, in my opinion.
00:50:13
And so somebody takes it from that man in that age.
00:50:16
He's a chair, period.
00:50:18
Exactly.
00:50:19
No, I'm waiting on that.
00:50:20
Um, all right.
00:50:21
Next up, one of the deals grows up to who's got next to think and his Nick ever returning Hashtag Stockton.
00:50:27
Hashtag tuna A Sfar.
00:50:29
A snake goes, There's no word yet he he was negotiating and then, you know, you know it is.
00:50:34
Then he wasn't And that dude's not beyond ****ing sitting out 23 years and then getting another fight and then coming back and being relevant just just just how he is.
00:50:43
Nick has been training pretty consistently.
00:50:46
You could see it all over social media over everybody else's social media that trains with him.
00:50:50
Um, as far as like who could fight or when he's coming back, who knows who against? I don't know.
00:50:56
I would have to say it against Conde, just running back for the hell of it.
00:50:59
But a lot of people keep throwing out Jorge measured.
00:51:01
Also, you can come in, uh, an adventure.
00:51:03
Little brothers lost, but, uh, but I don't know he's been training, so we'll see.
00:51:08
I think both of them will fight.
00:51:10
I think some of them will fight in 2021.
00:51:12
I think we see the return of Nick Diaz.
00:51:14
I have no idea against you, but I do.
00:51:16
I don't think he's doing all this training for nothing, right? And makes always Neitz out.
00:51:21
There are they're ****ing mind.
00:51:22
I love the Diaz brothers, but there are other ****, But listen, they're out of their mind for better and for worse.
00:51:29
They're out of their mind and that if you rub them the wrong way, they'll never fight again, but they're also out of their mind.
00:51:36
And the if the right opportunity presents itself going the right way, they'll fight January.
00:51:41
There, like maybe is will fight your mama tomorrow if the situation's right, like right and and probably a lot of other things incentives where it's at, like there's a lot of **** that goes into these things these days.
00:51:54
Nate has a whole team of fighters.
00:51:55
I'm sure there's a lot of things they could do to make him happy.
00:51:57
But if they do make no mistake about it, it's not because they're worried or fearful or don't want to get her like they're always they they might not never fight again.
00:52:09
But if they get the right situation, they're on the same card tomorrow to like that's That's how.
00:52:15
That's why you see Nate all of a sudden just come back and ****ing fight whoever the **** like out of nowhere like they they will fight.
00:52:23
You just gotta make him the right offer, right? And if you are wondering, go look at Nate Diaz.
00:52:28
Uh, Instagram like when he was talking about her hair, I actually looked at it.
00:52:32
Hey, just drove his ass to San Francisco.
00:52:34
And he's outside of, well, the last.
00:52:35
The last ****ing thing in a story outside of Nino Training center.
00:52:38
By the way, I've been there.
00:52:40
It's a dope ****ing place I got to do.
00:52:41
Ah, drop in a couple years ago, Joe ****ing Jim to go to over.
00:52:45
But it's ****ing what, 7, 30 and nine. California.
00:52:49
That man's about it. That's his life.
00:52:51
Let me tell you right now, the dust and counter fight is signed, right? Right? Uh, e I think so.
00:53:01
I think so.
00:53:02
I e think it's like January 24th.
00:53:04
I think I think I think that's a done deal.
00:53:06
Let's for the sake of argument for the sake of making my god**** point here, let's say that's a done deal, son.
00:53:12
If Dustin drops out three days before that fight and they call Nate and they give it, you'll see Nate fight in six weeks.
00:53:24
It s so that's what I'm saying.
00:53:26
Nate might never fight again or under the right cir***stances.
00:53:30
Night might fight Connor in January.
00:53:33
It's the fan, right? Like again? Nate was on a boat getting drunk when he fought kind of the first time anyway.
00:53:40
he's always ready to rock and roll.
00:53:43
If the situation is right, we could see them back sooner rather than later.
00:53:46
But to answer your question, I do think they both fight next year.
00:53:49
No idea who.
00:53:50
But they will fight next year.
00:53:51
Both.
00:53:52
Yeah, and they had to buy that.
00:53:53
Dudes always training no matter what.
00:53:54
He and being waiting for a car to start came he just doing because that's who he is, all right.
00:53:58
For the record, I think Nick is, too.
00:54:01
I don't think always in and fight shape, but like these videos of Nick Diaz drinking and Drunk Surface.
00:54:08
But you have to keep in mind, Man.
00:54:10
Nick's been a lifelong vegan.
00:54:11
He stays in triathlons.
00:54:14
He stays doing jiu jitsu.
00:54:16
He might not be competing, but I don't think the Knicks not the sort of guy that, like let's himself right.
00:54:22
He's a ****ing ninja man.
00:54:23
He's a real martial artist.
00:54:25
He will be like that forever.
00:54:26
So don't make me out there.
00:54:28
He's acting too point.
00:54:30
McGary is not official, so we'll see what we'll see this make it ****ing official already got ****.
00:54:37
Alright.
00:54:38
What about the thinking? Very quick and then we'll go into a little last segment and get out of here.
00:54:42
Just looking at the Oh ****.
00:54:45
Anthony Perkins back in the U S.
00:54:46
C No ****.
00:54:48
That dude, if you don't know, I've gotten in a train at at his at his gym down in Tucson.
00:54:53
He's a dope ****ing dude, But he hasn't found you have seen him forever.
00:54:57
He's back.
00:54:58
Thinking was talking.
00:54:59
Lopez, Max Griffin's on this card during the damages on this ****ing car with this awful god**** tattoo.
00:55:05
Do markets get aggregator that lima still in the U.
00:55:08
S.
00:55:09
C. I did not know that he's gonna undefeated Alexander Romanov.
00:55:11
Uh, driven goals of Bevin Lewis.
00:55:13
Not bad.
00:55:14
This is an ESPN ESPN cards. It's not bad.
00:55:17
Cadre Cadel against yon John in Jenin.
00:55:21
Yeah, I guess you would say.
00:55:23
Then Ian Highnesses back to Colonel Brandon Alan Ronnie Barcella taking a Collotta and Andrei Arlovski still ****ing doing against Tanner Boozer.
00:55:32
And of course, the main event.
00:55:33
The one everyone's talking about something is Glover Teixeira winner More than like this, it is up for a title shot.
00:55:39
Um, at some point depending on what happens in the union eso what you're thinking on that main event.
00:55:45
Who you picking? I mean, look, one would assume Tiago Santos right? Like it's kind of hard, big lover, even though Glover's obviously like that, that quintessential ****ing wily veteran like Who could always win? I think.
00:56:00
But I just I don't know, dog.
00:56:03
I was never high on Anthony Smith.
00:56:05
I know he's a great guy.
00:56:07
Decent commentator home.
00:56:09
I was never sold on him as a talent.
00:56:12
I feel like he beats him over the hill.
00:56:14
Guys, I feel like he beat the right dudes were shot and show gun and ****.
00:56:19
I mean, that was like he'd be owes me or somebody a couple legit winds on his run.
00:56:23
But I was just never sold on him.
00:56:26
Um, so global beating him It was a good win for globe. Er, no doubt.
00:56:34
I just don't think Tiago Santos is that I do think that glow over is old.
00:56:39
I do think that I think that what we saw from Global last time was sort of I could be wrong, but I feel like that might have been like his last call for alcohol.
00:56:48
Like, I don't think he comes out and does that to Tiago because I could be wrong.
00:56:53
But I think Tiago, Unless unless those knees or we're really ****ed up from the John fight, I think Tiago's probably gonna come out and beat the **** out of Global and Global is gonna wanna look 41 years old in this fight.
00:57:04
I think this is not Glover against hate to throw him under the bus again.
00:57:09
Anthony Smith, Um, this is terrorism is not gonna lay down for global to share if for any reason Anthony Smith sort of laid down a little bit, it seems like to me in that fight, kinda kinda didn't want to be in there.
00:57:22
So it's not just gonna be that guy.
00:57:24
And I was coming off a double knee surgery or whatever, double knee injuries and all that, but he's gonna be there for it.
00:57:30
Glover has what it takes to get the windows Saturday.
00:57:32
Glover doesn't get his credit for the amount of damage he dishes out on the ground. Agreed.
00:57:36
But you've got to get to the ground, right, alright.
00:57:39
And tacos gonna Tiago's gonna land a few hammers to the ****ing chin before that happens.
00:57:44
Please believe that **** So that is this weekend.
00:57:47
Uh, this is ESPN two, but they've been, you know, dual ****ing, uh, broadcasting these cars and ****.
00:57:54
So I'm assuming also watching on ESPN plus on this Saturday night.
00:57:58
All right, So you had an idea for a little last segment, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:05
Alright.
00:58:06
Eso just towards the end of the show, I feel like before we were going life and I was just thinking, actually, I'll tell you exactly how the inception for this idea started.
00:58:14
Um, I was watching the Roy Jones Jr podcast with Joe Rogan a couple weeks ago, and at some point, they brought up Marvin Hagler.
00:58:26
And I, like, obviously know who. Marvin.
00:58:28
For those of you who might not know which would bring me around to the segment, Marvin Hagler was a boxer.
00:58:32
Uh, ****ing like eighties, early eighties E.
00:58:39
I don't think it was quite the seventies, and I'm gonna say that it was the eighties.
00:58:43
Anyway, I was hit him who Marvin Hagler was.
00:58:46
But I wasn't exactly hit to his whole career in a lot of his fights and stuff.
00:58:50
Obviously, there's the very famous fight Hagler, Hearns, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler.
00:58:54
which was probably the greatest boxing match ever.
00:58:59
Um, but during the Roy Jones Jr Joe Rogan podcast, they were talking about ****ing Marvin Hagler and just how amazing he was.
00:59:08
And it was such a you know, they made such an impression that I paused the podcast I brought on YouTube.
00:59:13
But I looked up a couple of ****ing highlight reels of his and I watched a short do***entary, and wow, what a ****ing career the guy had.
00:59:21
What a ****ing fighter for all of you out there who might have watched Floyd Mayweather or call some of these mawr than less than entertaining boxing matches lately on you might not think you like boxing.
00:59:34
I would highly recommend you go back and look at some Marvin Hagler fights.
00:59:39
Um, Marvin Hagler highlights.
00:59:41
Or, at the very least, go back and watch Marvin Hagler verse Thomas Hearns.
00:59:46
The first round of that fight was ****ing chaos.
00:59:51
I mean, it is one of the absolute best rounds in combat sports history.
00:59:57
Both of those dudes.
00:59:58
Toughest nails, strongest **** power punchers just rocking the **** out of each other back and forth.
01:00:07
It was ****ing incredible, but, uh, Marvin Hagler when his whole career, He lost two fights.
01:00:16
Oh, fights.
01:00:17
He lost by decision.
01:00:18
He came back and knocked out both of those men.
01:00:22
He was never not down in his whole career.
01:00:26
And he got ****ing thunderstruck by Thomas Hearns.
01:00:30
I think he did get knocked down once, but it was like a slip.
01:00:32
He stepped on his shoe.
01:00:33
He never got cleanly knocked down, Not one time in his whole career.
01:00:38
And he was an aggressive power punching strikers.
01:00:41
So he would give one, you know, take one to give one.
01:00:43
Never got knocked down the very last fight of his career.
01:00:47
He lost the fight to Sugar Ray Leonard who? A lot of people thought that he very well, one.
01:00:53
But the mother****er was such a G that he was like, Listen, if I am here to destroy men, I quit.
01:01:02
He lost a very close fight.
01:01:04
The ****ing sugar Ray Leonard, who obviously went on to be one of the greatest box of all time to and again, keep in mind, a lot of people thought that he actually won that fight because he was the champion of the time and it was sort of like you need to beat the chance to ****ing take the belt.
01:01:16
And Sugar Ray didn't quite do that.
01:01:19
Marvin Hagler said **** on, y'all.
01:01:21
I quit.
01:01:22
He moved the ****ing Paris and became a ****ing act.
01:01:25
He's still out there getting white *****.
01:01:27
Marvin Hagler is the ****ing man.
01:01:30
It brings us around at the end of every podcast.
01:01:32
I would like for me and you to just throw out a fighter, possibly a new guy that we might be hip on.
01:01:37
But more than likely, maybe just the older fighter could be boxer kickboxer.
01:01:42
Mm.
01:01:43
A valley to does it.
01:01:44
Yeah, There's somebody who the fans might not be aware of and just recommend that so that they could go out.
01:01:52
Check that fighter out.
01:01:53
So for the first little statement, I just told you so if you don't get a fire tonight, okay.
01:01:58
Perfect.
01:02:00
Marvin Hagler, Marvin Hagler let go.
01:02:03
And the fight.
01:02:04
If you don't know what Marvin Hagler verse top comic turns Go Look that fight up.
01:02:10
****ing thank me later.
01:02:11
You're watching a few times.
01:02:13
Believe me, it's sure.
01:02:14
Alright, So as soon as you mentioned Is this this segment? The idea the Onley person I could think of Jack Johnson.
01:02:21
Jack Johnson was, I want to say it was the very first black heavyweight champion in boxing.
01:02:28
I want to send 100 U.
01:02:30
S.
01:02:31
We're talking like Jim Crow era.
01:02:34
We're talking like Dude was insane, right? He hit her fight against James Jeffries and stuff like to fight of the century.
01:02:41
He was around for Ken Burns.
01:02:42
Anyone knows photography, Those who Ken Burns is or film making those who can burns is he's that old.
01:02:47
He's back in the day and Ken Burns is actually quoted as saying.
01:02:51
For more than 13 years, Jack Johnson was the most famous and the most notorious African American on earth.
01:02:56
Dude transcended boxing cause he was ****ing insane.
01:02:59
Here's why.
01:03:00
He's one of my favorites.
01:03:01
Besides the fact that he felt like 95 times, he won 1970 of them.
01:03:05
Um, and he's like 11 losses, and he had a bunch of draws two and a couple of contests.
01:03:09
But the the guy think about this is back in the day, like 19 tens, you know, in before right, this dude opened up a night restaurant nightclub.
01:03:20
He was married toe to a white woman.
01:03:23
He was known to mess around with white women.
01:03:26
This dude went to jail for violating what's called the Mann Act, which is, uh, basically, you're not back what this is.
01:03:32
This is just saying, if you don't know about this, it basically forbid anybody to transport a woman across state lines for moral purposes.
01:03:39
If that doesn't sound like a trap, because the ****ing it was a trap, Right? So you got sent it to a year in prison.
01:03:46
He building.
01:03:47
Hey, got the **** out of Dodge.
01:03:49
I know where he went, but he fought, like, oversee, you know, wherever another country.
01:03:53
For a while.
01:03:54
This you took fights forever, right? And crazy life had a ****ing insane life.
01:04:00
And then the day dies in a car crash at 16 years old.
01:04:04
So if that's not like a god**** you.
01:04:06
But this mother****er lived so Jack Johnson, there's no video of them.
01:04:11
There's photos everywhere.
01:04:12
Read up on this story is one of the most interesting ****ing stories ever I've ever read or heard of.
01:04:17
That mother****er is a legend that, like nobody talks about anymore, but definitely worth reading about.
01:04:23
So Jack Johnson and from what I heard from what I from what I like you said for what I've heard about him was a ****ing beast.
01:04:30
Hell, you kill just killing those white boys.
01:04:33
I think that's back.
01:04:34
They would fight ****ing, like, 30 40 60 80 rounds or some crazy **** like that.
01:04:38
Yeah, like that's probably what it was like, a man.
01:04:40
I'm gonna marry a white woman.
01:04:41
Okay? You get to do whatever you want, Jack. Who going? You know.
01:04:46
So he's that dude usedto he used to get, like, he's loved driving really fast, but obviously the car crash, but he just he used to love driving fast so he would drive, get really fast, get pulled over, get the couple of 100 bucks in town.
01:04:58
I'm gonna driving just as fast, if not faster on the way back.
01:05:01
So just heads up.
01:05:02
You know what's funny about that Quickly? Uh, for any of you out there who may have seen Harlem nights? Yeah.
01:05:08
If I'm not mistaking the boxer from Harlem nights, the one that got the study of the doing, I think he's loosely based on Jack.
01:05:17
You're supposed to be the big black box or other time which is like, I think that was supposed to be loosely based on that character.
01:05:24
Yeah, but if you think about the time to do was alive and doing all that **** you like God **** is a bad mother****er.
01:05:29
Yeah, for sure for sure this is cool. I like this segment.
01:05:33
This would be that would be really cool.
01:05:34
We'll do this every week.
01:05:35
Very.
01:05:36
In the episode, we'll throw out just sort of an obscure fighter that you ****suckers to go look up and become more acquainted with.
01:05:41
Yeah, so we got a week to figure out the next one.
01:05:42
So Ugo Alright, folks, you guys stupid.
01:05:44
But we appreciate the held all you guys.
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You could follow us on.
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Of course, That's 4 1983 for Jesse, who is fine. He's alive.
01:05:51
He's doing well.
01:05:52
He's just busy friends at Caribbean scoring May I'm allowed 30 to, Of course, the websites.
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The warriors dot com specials dot com shout out there, want to tune in and that you guys have withheld tank and he just have a good night looking to flat earth.
01:06:04
I did e fell asleep 10 2010 28.
01:06:07
Obviously, Otis Cairo's hanging out tonight and hanging out last night to Jeremiah.
01:06:13
Who else we got here? I think radio was here earlier.
01:06:16
Adam would appreciate you, man.
01:06:18
Oh, and then last night real quick, I had one of my one of my colleagues from case that press named Gilbert Gonzales.
01:06:25
He's at double G on TV on Twitter and on Instagram.
01:06:28
He was on Fight Island.
01:06:30
I had him on for an hour and 20 minutes last night.
01:06:33
So keep awards in may dot com hit up that one.
01:06:36
He gave details.
01:06:37
I literally went chronological order from him leaving Vegas and flying Abu Dhabi to him flying back.
01:06:43
And it was a really cool behind the curtain.
01:06:46
Look, it was dope as ****, So I highly recommend you Check that out.
01:06:49
Alright, Alright.
01:06:51
What's gonna do it first, man, I appreciate you guys for myself and Mr Fred Kirby.
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And, of course, just like you guys have a good night.
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