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00:00:00
after news Tuesday morning, Monday Night Football edition.
00:00:06
Yes, normally, I am here all by my lonesome, but guess what? Hey, the Giants played last night, so I had to bring in my boy Adam armed direct here because, I mean what a game by the Giants.
00:00:21
They may not have won, but my opinion they should have, because they dominated this game basically start the finish, except for one person giving the ball away, literally to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:00:37
Adam, what are your just overall general thoughts from watching last night's game? Well, listen, you know, on the on the one giant podcast when we talk about this coming into the season, expectations were, let's start to really effectively in a positive way.
00:00:54
Start to rebuild for this franchise because there's been a lot of sputtering.
00:00:57
That's what this year is.
00:00:58
This is about a rebuild.
00:00:59
It's about growing pains.
00:01:01
You're going to see it.
00:01:02
There's a ton of positives.
00:01:03
Yes, you can easily look at Daniel Jones and say Hey to really bad ugly interceptions there.
00:01:08
But at the end of the day, I soak up all the positives from this game I think about regardless of how Daniel Jones had turnovers.
00:01:15
What were the expectations coming into this thing we were talking about? Blowout 31 10 You know, not even a game to talk about.
00:01:22
And the Giants lead at halftime, so they're still learning.
00:01:24
They're still learning what it is to take leads from halftime and finish to the 3rd and 4th quarters.
00:01:29
But more more positives and negatives for May, and it was just great to see an entertaining, interesting, exciting game all the way down to the last play.
00:01:36
Ah, lot of people might have been surprised that Tampa Bay was only held the 25 points against the Giants, but, quite frankly, the Giants D, even though they have had their struggles at times this season.
00:01:50
Overall, they played pretty darn well against some pretty good competition this season.
00:01:55
And they showed up, especially in that first half, where you know, Brady would have them in the scoring territory and you know the bend.
00:02:07
But don't break.
00:02:08
Give up those three point field goals don't allow the touchdowns, give your offense a chance to win the game.
00:02:14
And they did that the entire game.
00:02:17
Yeah, listen, especially against the team in Tampa Bay, who, when they get in the red zone, they've been very good to converting and converting for touchdown.
00:02:25
So, to your point, yes, they got in their handful of times, but you were able to hold them in check for most of this game.
00:02:31
Ultimately, when you go inside the stats and, by the way, the reason why the Ben but don't break and then sometimes ultimately break late in games this defense, we don't have a starting second.
00:02:40
Cornerback Ryan Lewis, who was inconsistent at best, was getting the starting reps.
00:02:45
He didn't play in this game.
00:02:46
Brought back in yet, UM, to start, who had been benched after the first few weeks of the season.
00:02:50
So it's a real mixed bag there.
00:02:52
Patrick Graham is getting the most out of this defense.
00:02:54
He still needs more players.
00:02:56
You still need more personnel in order to get this job done.
00:02:59
Suffering injuries in that linebacking corps as well over the last handful of weeks.
00:03:03
But to go inside the stats here, Leonard Fournette and Ronald and Ronald Jones combined, and even the entire back you wanna throw in Scotty Miller.
00:03:11
They combined for a total of 81 rushing yards in this game in the first half.
00:03:15
Especially, they really shut down that running game first.
00:03:17
That was check box number one for this defense.
00:03:20
Then you try to mitigate all the explosive weapons go inside the receiving numbers.
00:03:25
Nobody had more than five catches and the best receiver best player on the field, and Mike Evans had the late touchdown.
00:03:31
And that's what clinched it there for Tampa.
00:03:32
But five for 55 including that touchdown catch on seven targets.
00:03:37
That's Bradbury matching up.
00:03:38
You really listen.
00:03:39
There's a handful of key plays, especially when you look on Tampa Bay's offensive side of the bowl.
00:03:43
That little seam route that that Gronkowski ran for a nice third down conversion.
00:03:47
They're in there.
00:03:48
But, yeah, the game script went against everything that Tampa probably thought they were gonna be able to execute against.
00:03:55
You still come up short, but But again, positive Manpad, Giants fans, positivity coming out of this thing.
00:04:03
Couple of interesting and questionable, um, penalties were called or not called during this game.
00:04:11
Obviously, the biggest one that everybody remembers and everybody talks about is that two point conversion.
00:04:18
They're like, Oh, it's a passenger Kurt.
00:04:20
In my opinion, yes.
00:04:22
If you want that in slow mo.
00:04:25
Yeah, it's obvious pass interference.
00:04:26
But in real time it's like this, you know, So I really can't.
00:04:31
Whereas if you go and look at that that personal foul, unnecessary roughness, lowering the head, that was a God awful call.
00:04:43
I mean, that defender could not have played that any better than what he did.
00:04:47
And that's Yatim there on the right side line there, and all he's trying to do is brace himself for impact.
00:04:53
He doesn't lower it in and try to go in at the receiver.
00:04:56
The receiver lowers his head and he could find to do that.
00:04:58
But all he's trying to do is braced himself.
00:05:00
And you know what's weird about it to me is so touch on both of these.
00:05:04
The pass interference or non call gets picked up.
00:05:06
I'm of the mindset of this.
00:05:08
You threw the flag.
00:05:10
I think it should have been left to stand right.
00:05:12
If you hadn't thrown the flag, I would have said, Listen, it's incidental, and that's what happens.
00:05:16
You wanna go super micro on it? And they mentioned in the broadcast If Daniel Jones put that out towards the pylon, then one.
00:05:22
Lewis can probably catch it clean without even worrying about the defender.
00:05:26
And then if the defender is gonna hit him because he's gonna be even a little half a yard further away, then it makes the call a lot cleaner, so difficult one to take.
00:05:33
But just because it happened at the end of the game doesn't mean that's the deciding factor on that on that other one.
00:05:38
It's frustrating because so what's weird about it? ISS for the referees to make that call there and not seem to get into the fine intricacies of the play on the on the defensive past defensive roughing, you know, unnecessary roughness and then get into the intricacies of the end of the game.
00:05:55
That's what's weird, and that's where I think if you're a Giants fan, maybe you're frustrated because you'd like to see the referees huddled up and say, Boy, he was just lowering himself to brace.
00:06:04
The receiver initiates the contact.
00:06:06
Your never never gonna call offensive unnecessary roughness, but at the very least, pick up the flag, say no foul on the play, and then you kind of understand the one of the back end.
00:06:14
So in balance, in terms of how the referees looked in this one, in my opinion, and that's true around the NFL on on a lot of Sunday's.
00:06:20
Well, I mean, there was another pass interference called That was called, I guess I believe it was Bradbury.
00:06:28
Yeah, they're the player.
00:06:30
That was something I think shouldn't have been called because it didn't look like he was really, uh, impending the receiver at all.
00:06:37
Yes, it looked like he had him wrapped up, but he really wasn't touching him.
00:06:41
His arm was around him, but it really wasn't, uh, bothering him at all.
00:06:46
And there was a couple of times where Bradbury was looking back for the ball when the ball was in the air.
00:06:53
So I don't see that as a pass interference.
00:06:55
And yet the one, uh, in the two point conversion was it just made no sense to me on how these referees were calling these past interferences.
00:07:03
Yeah, that's the inconsistency.
00:07:04
And again, the pass interference.
00:07:05
Call the two point conversion.
00:07:06
You say, boy, the defender didn't get his head around.
00:07:08
Now they say over the ball hit him in his arm.
00:07:10
That's great, But you always talk about get If you're your heads back at the quarterback, then that's how you avoid it.
00:07:15
If it's not back there, that's when you get hit with it.
00:07:17
So again, inconsistencies.
00:07:18
Bradbury was hit with two pass interference penalty with one where he had his arm there and again.
00:07:22
I tend to agree with you.
00:07:24
He wasn't actually holding him.
00:07:25
Maybe just put himself in a bad visual spot by having the arm there.
00:07:30
The other one was what ended up putting the ball down inside the five yard line, where I'm gonna forget who it was for.
00:07:37
For Tampa Bay on the right sideline looks for him in the ED Zone, and I think you I think it was ****ens if I'm not before it's taken.
00:07:43
He had had some nice looking plays there, five catches for 36 overall.
00:07:47
Even that one again, just in terms of consistency from the referees.
00:07:51
I would have thought you would have huddled up and said Boy, that ball got thrown narrowly touching the back side of the end zone.
00:07:57
I don't even know if that was a catchable ball.
00:08:00
It's hard because Bradbury's a little bit behind him in his arm is there that's far more reasonable than the other one.
00:08:05
But, you know, listen, it happens.
00:08:07
And at the end of the day, there's plenty of other things to point in this game that lead to a Giant's loss.
00:08:12
As frustrating as those moments may have been another thing that that, to me, stands out big.
00:08:19
Time is, Jones is the leading rusher on the Giants, and this kid is dangerous when he just tucks the ball on runs.
00:08:28
And yet he doesn't do this until the final drive in order to get that first down of the game.
00:08:36
Do you think possibly Maybe there was a few times where he should have just tucked it and ran Were some opportunities probably showed up rather than possibly, uh like, Wow, I'll just ask it just right there and then we'll go into the next thing.
00:08:53
Well, I would say so, you know, and a lot of Giants fans look at Jason Garrett a lot of time with big talking point the following morning.
00:09:00
Is the play calling? What didn't he do? Or did he dio, you know, and they even had that late in this one with a run play.
00:09:06
They ended up converting, ultimately on a big fourth in 16.
00:09:09
You know, we're able to move the chains on a number of times there, Um, but if you think about it in microcosm of the two interceptions that Jones through and then combine it with the one on the final drive when he hits slated to convert and and get and move the chains, it's all really similar there.
00:09:22
I think these were gonna be that these air the teaching moments for Garrett when it comes to Daniel Jones on the two interceptions.
00:09:28
Maybe your point now.
00:09:29
You didn't see designed run plays last two weeks.
00:09:31
Big design run plays that totally surprised it had one in this game, actually, but it went only for about seven or eight yards. Little pickup.
00:09:38
Three. Russia's 20 yards for Daniel Jones.
00:09:40
Again.
00:09:41
Two elements. You're protecting the quarterback.
00:09:43
You're also protecting a young offensive line that's still learning.
00:09:45
So sometimes when you do those big design run plays, they end up coming back on a holding penalty.
00:09:51
They end up getting, you know, mitigated by a mistake by a young team.
00:09:54
But on both interceptions.
00:09:56
What you're looking for him to do there is.
00:09:57
Take that ball down, go ahead and fall forward for a yard or two, even maybe lose a yard or two and just live to play another down on the conversion that he made.
00:10:07
He actually, when he's in that pocket, he could have stepped up and worked himself forward into the right and maybe would have been able to run.
00:10:14
Now he ends up converting it.
00:10:15
It's about his 50 50 ball, as he had with the interceptions, and he actually backs himself out of the pocket and almost into a sack.
00:10:24
So this is the mental game that's going on right now.
00:10:27
It's the mental growth where, where he wants to do it all.
00:10:30
He wants to find that play.
00:10:31
And I think a lot of young quarterbacks suffer from this, and it's hard because he's done it somewhat consistently.
00:10:36
Here is just buddy.
00:10:37
There's another play.
00:10:38
There's another play coming as long as you don't turn it over as long as you don't make the big mistake.
00:10:43
The little mistake is a sack for two yard loss.
00:10:45
The big mistake is the interception that changes field position that gives Tom Brady in the Bucks a chance to get more points in the first half of the game.
00:10:54
At halftime, the Giants were leading 14 to 6 in the pregame show that we were talking, I said The only chance I see the Giants winning is if Garrett draws up a whole lot of plays for Daniel Jones is throwing like Tom Brady.
00:11:10
He is getting the ball out of his hands quickly and just picking up your 5678 yard quick passes.
00:11:19
And that seems like what, what was going on in the first half? How the Giants was, uh, mitigating this, this bad offensive line, you know, for him and just getting the ball out of his hands really quickly.
00:11:32
It looked like they had Tampa kind of on the defensive, so to speak in that first half, why wouldn't they just continue doing that in the second? It seemed like Jones was holding the ball a lot longer in the second half rather than what he was doing in the first half.
00:11:47
Yeah, so you know, one point, I think coming out of the first half, where I believe he was 11 for 17 but 10 of 13 on passes that he got out of his hand in under 2.
00:11:55
5 seconds.
00:11:56
So, to your point, right, quick release.
00:11:58
Find that hot route and go Now.
00:12:00
Now, the adjustments getting made on the other side.
00:12:03
So now you talk about.
00:12:04
And by the way, even early in this game, there were a couple of passes that we're getting completed where you know, his boy, they're they're trying to undercut.
00:12:10
Tampa Bay is looking to take these risks now.
00:12:12
It left them potentially exposed on the interception to the right side.
00:12:15
The first one blown coverage on the left.
00:12:17
I don't put on Daniel Jones not to see that, because you don't in pre snap.
00:12:20
And they said this in the post game.
00:12:22
I think it was slightly said he goes, Yeah, but you don't We don't anticipate the guy falling down or blowing the coverage like it's not like, Hey, when he when he totally leaves you wide open, then I'll throw you the ball.
00:12:30
So you know that that's kind of the neither here nor there.
00:12:33
But what ends up happening is I mentioned Sterling Shepard.
00:12:36
Um, they miss on a connection down the left side, where Shepherd is looking back a little bit too soon.
00:12:41
So you can't run.
00:12:42
It's fast when your head's turned around, is keeping it forward.
00:12:45
That's predicated on the offensive line, not always giving Daniel Jones enough time.
00:12:49
So now the timing of the receiver and the quarterback gets thrown off it well, so that's an overthrown ball quote unquote.
00:12:55
That really is about timing, you know, and having consistency out there on the outside Thea other big touchdown play.
00:13:00
That that Slaten came right out and said, In the post game, that's on me.
00:13:03
Lost the ball didn't follow through on my route.
00:13:05
That could have been, Ah, big touchdown pass.
00:13:08
That puts Daniel Jones up and around 300 passing yards.
00:13:11
And even with the two picks, 3 to 2 you live with that, um, the Giants consistent consistently took their shots and even, you know, in the postgame judge said, You know, it's volume shots here where we're trying to take our looks.
00:13:22
They weren't hitting on a number of them, and at some point you have to make again adjustments from Tampa Bay's defense.
00:13:29
Yes, and at some point You have to say, If we keep going to this well off trying to take these shots, we're gonna end up throwing a deep interception potentially, or we're going to find ourselves in the third and Longs.
00:13:42
One of the really nice things that complemented in the first half was the combined rushing efforts of old man Alfred Morris.
00:13:48
And then Wayne Goldman has been on this roster 12 for 44 3.
00:13:50
7 yards, Nothing to write home about but 3.
00:13:53
5 from Alfred Morris is well, they rushed in total as a team for 101 yards.
00:13:58
That was putting them in second in sixes and third and five.
00:14:02
And that's not a place of the Giants have lived.
00:14:04
When you do that, then those shots become more.
00:14:06
Available in the second half is you're trying to maintain a Li than trying to get back into it.
00:14:11
They were set up in more third and longs.
00:14:12
It's harder to run what your game script looks like if you don't take advantage of those 1st and 2nd down rushing opportunities.
00:14:19
When you look at the overall statistics of this game, where Tampa Bay and the Giants both pretty much had almost equal time of possession.
00:14:28
The score is darn near equal, 23 25.
00:14:32
The yards per play were dead, even at 5.
00:14:35
2 yards per play for both uh, passing yards rushing yards.
00:14:41
All very, very close.
00:14:43
Total yards was 3 44 to 3 57.
00:14:48
This is what a lot of people consider one of the most dangerous offense in the NFL.
00:14:54
Versus what? A lot of people I mean they were.
00:14:57
The Giants were listed probably the worst offense in the NFL overall, and yet they were able to keep things even with the Buccaneers.
00:15:08
Is this a really good sign moving forward for the rest of the season? Or do you think that it's still the New York Giants? Lucky to win maybe three games this year? Oh, well, this year, Specifically, Yes, you know.
00:15:20
I mean, listen, look, it look it In the short term, when I line up Aziz, good as as good as Borough has looked out there in Cincinnati, we're going tohave Washington, Philadelphia, and then the Bangles before we get into the Seahawks and the Cardinals.
00:15:32
These next three games are all very winnable games because you're not talking about a Tom Brady.
00:15:38
I mean the the slew of veterans on that side of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, not only on the field, but on their coaching staff as well, Incredibly experience.
00:15:46
So the fact that you come up shortness isn't surprising.
00:15:49
Um, you know, go back over these last handful of games as well.
00:15:52
Lost to Dallas by three. Lost one.
00:15:55
Washington by a point lost to the Eagles by a point lost to the Bucks by two points.
00:15:59
So the Giants air in these games.
00:16:01
And unlike last year, where they were doing some window dressing late in games and getting a late score that took it from a 13 point deficit to a six and you know, we lost by a single score? Not really.
00:16:12
You were down two scores most of the way.
00:16:13
They've been in these games over the course of this season.
00:16:16
And yes, especially on the defensive side of the bowl.
00:16:19
You can look at this team, and what you like about it from that standpoint is, you know, you only saw about 6% in terms of snaps.
00:16:28
Only a handful Carter Coughlin got his first sack here, combining with Cam Brown those air to later round rookies that the Giants drafted and got a little bit of a run in this game, you think about Bradbury has brought in.
00:16:38
He's on a three year deal.
00:16:39
You think about Blake Martinez? He's in on a three year deal.
00:16:42
Deal is, well, you know.
00:16:44
So there are a lot of components at each level that make a lot of sense.
00:16:47
What happens on the defensive line there, where Tomlinson is up for a contract at the end of this season, where Leonard Williams is playing on a franchise tag? Decisions around that are going to be important, but But this defensive unit is really on Lee, a premiere edge rusher, pure guy there in a 34 system that can really get consistently home on the quarterback.
00:17:07
That's gonna change the dynamic, and then you look for a quarter cornerback as well.
00:17:11
But over the remaining games here, there's some winnable ones, you know, do I think that the Giants are going to get beyond that because, as I mentioned not to not to filibuster here.
00:17:21
But once they get to the Seahawks and the Cardinals.
00:17:23
It's followed up by the Browns, the Ravens and then finishing with the Cowboys.
00:17:27
So while the next three games are very winnable, every game after that excluding.
00:17:32
Maybe Dallas is a game that you think you're gonna be in his underdog with teams playing for a lot not unlike Tampa Bay and they could be close losses.
00:17:39
But they'll probably still be losses.
00:17:40
There's a team that that's probably gonna live four, maybe 51 range by the end of the year.
00:17:44
And it's and it's a good thing.
00:17:46
Everything fundamentally looks better this year than it did from last season.
00:17:50
Coming into this game, a former giant, Jason Pierre Paul, said he was going to wreck the New York Giants on his homecoming and hey, had a couple of plays in there where he really made his presence. Felt.
00:18:03
What was your thoughts on Piers game against the Giants? Yeah, listen left side of the line there, where he's doing his work.
00:18:10
That's where we had Shane Lamu getting his first start of his career in spite of the fact that he and Thomas collectively allowed nine pressures on Daniel Jones.
00:18:18
Three I test, as we say, looks pretty good there.
00:18:21
Thomas looked more consistent that he has over the course of his rookie season as well.
00:18:26
It's interesting.
00:18:28
If you want to talk about Hey, you're coming for the next.
00:18:30
I believe it's something that Jason Pierre Paul used, ironically, having had a serious neck injury that that could have shortened his career even after he left New York and once Tampa Bay, Um, I thought they mitigated it for the most part.
00:18:41
Now, now what I will say is, as this game got into the later stages, you saw and, um, makin SooHoo NPR poll starting to get there with consistency starting to get pressure quick more quickly on Daniel Jones, I wanted to just see if I could pull up Jason Pierre.
00:18:56
Paul had five solo tackles in this.
00:18:58
Had the one sack had to for a loss just the one Q B hit.
00:19:02
It's not a bad stat line by any stretch of the imagination.
00:19:05
This is a guy who I think has up over now.
00:19:07
That puts him about 27 sacks since 2018 and joining the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just about 55 over his first seven seasons with New York.
00:19:16
So he's looked better.
00:19:17
He's playing in a complimentary system.
00:19:19
It was a strong game from him, but I'm relatively impressed The way he was mitigated all things being considered by this young offensive line.
00:19:27
He's a good player.
00:19:28
He had a nice game, but I did have my concerns coming in of looking at a stat line where you go.
00:19:34
Three Q B hits, two Q B sax, maybe a strip fumbling.
00:19:37
I thought that this could have been a real record kind of game, and overall, I walk away about it saying, You know, thanks so much.
00:19:45
Continue to have a great time down there, Pierre.
00:19:47
And I'm glad that we looked at least relatively competent, taking on a really strong defensive front, one of many that the Giants to face in the first half of the season.
00:19:55
There was a play where I believe it was Evan Ingram that was running the football, and Daniel Jones ran out in front, and I think it was where he noticed that he blocked monster defensive tackle.
00:20:08
Uh, my goodness, what are your thoughts about your your starting quarterback and whom you think is going to be your franchise guy moving on, going out there and putting his body on the line in front of a guy who's 33 50.
00:20:25
Listen, 65 to 20.
00:20:27
The man's got the mass to him, right? Uh, you know, again, not unlike the design run plays you.
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You want to mitigate risk.
00:20:34
Their, uh, this is what I like about the late touchdown to Golden Tate.
00:20:38
It shows that Daniel Jones has the touch and has the deep accuracy.
00:20:42
It's consistency that you're concerned with, and you want to see them growing.
00:20:45
But even a play like that, they said it into the game.
00:20:49
Daniel Jones is beating himself up right now harder than anybody else's.
00:20:52
And on that play, all he wants to do is get out in front and give his guy a chance to get some more yardage.
00:20:57
I always applaud it.
00:20:59
I hate it if they get injured and I hate anybody in the league.
00:21:01
You hate to see it, but but you love that type of effort from your quarterback.
00:21:05
And that is a, you know, a footnote developmental piece about being a leader and everybody you know, back into the game.
00:21:12
Peppers came out when they asked him about it.
00:21:13
He said, Listen, we're not out there getting.
00:21:15
I'll clean it up. Butts kicked.
00:21:17
You know, he said, we're playing hard.
00:21:18
We believe that we're you know, we are growing.
00:21:20
We're getting better.
00:21:21
We are improving.
00:21:22
Slaten takes responsibility on certain things.
00:21:23
Slaten steps up and says, We believe that Daniel Jones capable.
00:21:26
So is that, you know, saying the right PR thing.
00:21:29
Maybe.
00:21:30
But I truly believe that, like the collective core of this team really does believe in one another and believes what they're building with Under Joe Judge.
00:21:37
So Ah, little play like that is how in the film room come Tuesday, you go, boy, you really wish you hadn't thrown those two picks.
00:21:45
But also, look, look, look what you are doing.
00:21:47
Look how you're staying in the game.
00:21:48
Staying engaged in the game and not allowing those turnovers to take you out of it.
00:21:52
Well, then you don't make that late touchdown pass.
00:21:54
At least give a chance to be back involved.
00:21:57
Well, one thing we can say is that Daniel Jones, after probably being scolded at after those first two interceptions and that last drive he threw the ball away.
00:22:08
It was the first time I've seen him do it.
00:22:10
I was like, Oh my God, he finally learned.
00:22:13
Do you think that this might actually carry over for the rest of his career? Maybe this season, finally understanding.
00:22:20
Hey, you know, sometimes I just gotta live.
00:22:22
Could play in the next down.
00:22:23
Well, so here's the Here's the ironic thing.
00:22:25
Or, you know, from a Giants fan perspective, you could go back to Week one.
00:22:29
He threw a bad interception, and then the next Siri's.
00:22:32
He threw that ball away a couple weeks later. Similar thing.
00:22:35
Learn from whatever Daniel Jones is learning within the games.
00:22:39
Now it's about carrying it over from, you know, from week.
00:22:42
Exactly that.
00:22:43
That that's that's the weird thing about it, and again it falls in his mind set up.
00:22:47
I wanna make the big play.
00:22:48
I want to do it.
00:22:49
You don't want to get it done.
00:22:50
So, yes, it's always encouraging because you know that he gets it.
00:22:54
You know that he understands, you know, that he's doing the right thing now.
00:22:57
It's just about.
00:22:58
And by the way, this is what he like.
00:22:59
Manning suffered from late in his career, and he understood that.
00:23:01
He was like, Listen, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get killed out here.
00:23:03
I'm gonna chuck this thing away.
00:23:04
But consistency from the offensive line is crucial because then Daniel Jones feels comfortable holding onto the ball and making the right read or getting rid of it.
00:23:16
It's about knowing when the pressure is going to come to you.
00:23:18
So even last night, where the line did play pretty consistent in front of them, he's got seven other weeks where it hasn't been consistent where he's been getting his butt kicked.
00:23:27
Where you have Thomas surrendering over 40 pressures from the left tackle position on his blindside.
00:23:33
Those things are all in his mind, so wanting to make a big when he finally gets a chance toe hang in and make a big play.
00:23:39
He's trying to do everything he can to make the big play because he doesn't know if the next one is going to be where he gets totally blindsided.
00:23:44
He coughs up a strip fumble, and then we're talking about how Daniel Jones can't get ball security.
00:23:49
I guess what? A lot of quarterbacks don't have that ability when you're getting nailed by £350 defensive lineman.
00:23:54
So the growth is there, and now it is about carrying it over long term here.
00:23:59
This is the midway point, By the way.
00:24:00
I'm sure you do this with the Colts as well, right? Midway point of the season.
00:24:04
Let's take a look.
00:24:05
See what we like.
00:24:06
See what we don't like.
00:24:07
And now let's take a look at that next eight games, sample size and see how that compares at the end of the year.
00:24:11
And that's where you gotta live with that with Daniel Jones and this team as a whole with Daniel Jones, I think the one thing that he is really needs to get under his belt and understand is the the flow of the game I get.
00:24:26
I get trying to go for it if you're down and out in the game and you really got to come, you know, trying to close in.
00:24:34
But when you are in a game or leading as we saw last night, it is much better just took to throw it away rather than than had the chance at an interception.
00:24:46
And this is something that Zo up here.
00:24:48
He's got to understand that flow.
00:24:51
Otherwise, uh, there will be game situations later on that he you need him to do this, but you've been pounding it in his head, throw it away, throw it away, and then he ends up throwing it away.
00:25:05
But you're down 21 points in the fourth quarter, you know, there, there's game flow that he's really got to get down.
00:25:11
Yes, no, it's a fantastic point, Lawrence, because because beyond the interceptions, it's about when it was happening and what was happening in the game.
00:25:19
You're winning the game.
00:25:21
Your defense is controlling Tampa Bay's offense right now.
00:25:25
That means that you're entering into the field position battle.
00:25:28
Let's go ahead and keep putting them inside their 20.
00:25:31
That's okay.
00:25:32
That's ZA net win.
00:25:33
Let's give our defense a lot of field toe work with where they could try to continue to slow them down, hold them to feel goal opportunities, and we can build from there.
00:25:42
There's a morale piece to it, too, right? It's deflating to the offense.
00:25:45
It's deflating to the defense when they get a stop and then you have to turn back around and try to ramp it back up immediately so that no, that's a big proponent of.
00:25:52
And then to your 200.
00:25:53
2 when you're down late in the fourth quarter, guess what you can throw picks that when you're when you're down to scores and it's OK, that's what we want you to grip it and rip it and don't hold on to it.
00:26:01
So, yes, mental awareness off in the first quarter, second quarter when we're in the game were up 14 6 going towards halftime.
00:26:09
Don't risk anything when you're in the early third quarter.
00:26:11
Don't risk anything.
00:26:13
Then when you get late in games, that's when you can rip it.
00:26:15
So that's about taking those sacks instead of the interceptions, throwing it away, even taking intentional grounding.
00:26:21
That's all right.
00:26:22
Do any of those things that you want and just avoid the big turnover mistakes because there was a point in this game when the Giants were winning the turnover battle, and that was one of the key components of maybe staying in this thing.
00:26:33
As you throw the picks as they take over the turnover battle, it shifts.
00:26:37
Finally, a big Plato Evans, 25 17 your behind now behind the April and still showed the ability to execute getting down the field there.
00:26:44
All right, so I want to thank, uh, Yankee Mary 45 National love 95 summers.
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Right now, before we in this Is there any finishing final thoughts about this game that you would like to get out? Yeah, Well, I'd like to remind people that if you want all these great final thoughts feel free to subscribe and make a profile here you can use the hashtag SCN NFL.
00:27:13
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00:27:17
Um, no, this is a growth project, my pushback.
00:27:20
And you and I have talked about this with Ray.
00:27:22
I think the Colts fan base is a much more steady, usually middle of the country is a little bit more patient with how things go.
00:27:30
The coast have a harder time.
00:27:32
This is what this is. It's the rebuild.
00:27:34
Friends take the positives.
00:27:36
Look for the negatives to be improved upon.
00:27:38
But that's the expectations.
00:27:40
Be happy that you played with a team that's going to go on a deep playoff run and you went toe to toe with them.
00:27:45
Not playing your cleanest game.
00:27:47
Last footnote, I would mention, is the Giants have played relatively clean.
00:27:51
Overall, they did have seven penalties in this game.
00:27:54
That's what will cost the team.
00:27:56
That is not as good from a talent standpoint.
00:27:58
Gotta play clean football, protect the football.
00:28:00
That's what you look for going forward and get excited to more division games just around the bend here.
00:28:04
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00:28:09
Uh, your insight.
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It was very valuable, not only to myself, but everybody was watching.
00:28:15
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00:28:17
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00:28:21
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Giants news: Daniel Jones, Joe Judge react to controversial non-PI call on 2-point conversion vs. Buccaneers

The referees picked up the flag, then put it down. That gesture late on Sunday’s game between the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the New York Giants made the difference in the outcome of the match. Initially throwing down the flag for pass interference, the refs overturned the call, preventing Daniel Jones and the Giants a […]

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after news Tuesday morning, Monday Night Football edition.
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Yes, normally, I am here all by my lonesome, but guess what? Hey, the Giants played last night, so I had to bring in my boy Adam armed direct here because, I mean what a game by the Giants.
00:00:21
They may not have won, but my opinion they should have, because they dominated this game basically start the finish, except for one person giving the ball away, literally to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Adam, what are your just overall general thoughts from watching last night's game? Well, listen, you know, on the on the one giant podcast when we talk about this coming into the season, expectations were, let's start to really effectively in a positive way.
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Start to rebuild for this franchise because there's been a lot of sputtering.
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That's what this year is.
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This is about a rebuild.
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It's about growing pains.
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You're going to see it.
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There's a ton of positives.
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Yes, you can easily look at Daniel Jones and say Hey to really bad ugly interceptions there.
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But at the end of the day, I soak up all the positives from this game I think about regardless of how Daniel Jones had turnovers.
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What were the expectations coming into this thing we were talking about? Blowout 31 10 You know, not even a game to talk about.
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And the Giants lead at halftime, so they're still learning.
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They're still learning what it is to take leads from halftime and finish to the 3rd and 4th quarters.
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But more more positives and negatives for May, and it was just great to see an entertaining, interesting, exciting game all the way down to the last play.
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Ah, lot of people might have been surprised that Tampa Bay was only held the 25 points against the Giants, but, quite frankly, the Giants D, even though they have had their struggles at times this season.
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Overall, they played pretty darn well against some pretty good competition this season.
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And they showed up, especially in that first half, where you know, Brady would have them in the scoring territory and you know the bend.
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But don't break.
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Give up those three point field goals don't allow the touchdowns, give your offense a chance to win the game.
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And they did that the entire game.
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Yeah, listen, especially against the team in Tampa Bay, who, when they get in the red zone, they've been very good to converting and converting for touchdown.
00:02:25
So, to your point, yes, they got in their handful of times, but you were able to hold them in check for most of this game.
00:02:31
Ultimately, when you go inside the stats and, by the way, the reason why the Ben but don't break and then sometimes ultimately break late in games this defense, we don't have a starting second.
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Cornerback Ryan Lewis, who was inconsistent at best, was getting the starting reps.
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He didn't play in this game.
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Brought back in yet, UM, to start, who had been benched after the first few weeks of the season.
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So it's a real mixed bag there.
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Patrick Graham is getting the most out of this defense.
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He still needs more players.
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You still need more personnel in order to get this job done.
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Suffering injuries in that linebacking corps as well over the last handful of weeks.
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But to go inside the stats here, Leonard Fournette and Ronald and Ronald Jones combined, and even the entire back you wanna throw in Scotty Miller.
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They combined for a total of 81 rushing yards in this game in the first half.
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Especially, they really shut down that running game first.
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That was check box number one for this defense.
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Then you try to mitigate all the explosive weapons go inside the receiving numbers.
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Nobody had more than five catches and the best receiver best player on the field, and Mike Evans had the late touchdown.
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And that's what clinched it there for Tampa.
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But five for 55 including that touchdown catch on seven targets.
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That's Bradbury matching up.
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You really listen.
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There's a handful of key plays, especially when you look on Tampa Bay's offensive side of the bowl.
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That little seam route that that Gronkowski ran for a nice third down conversion.
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They're in there.
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But, yeah, the game script went against everything that Tampa probably thought they were gonna be able to execute against.
00:03:55
You still come up short, but But again, positive Manpad, Giants fans, positivity coming out of this thing.
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Couple of interesting and questionable, um, penalties were called or not called during this game.
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Obviously, the biggest one that everybody remembers and everybody talks about is that two point conversion.
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They're like, Oh, it's a passenger Kurt.
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In my opinion, yes.
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If you want that in slow mo.
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Yeah, it's obvious pass interference.
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But in real time it's like this, you know, So I really can't.
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Whereas if you go and look at that that personal foul, unnecessary roughness, lowering the head, that was a God awful call.
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I mean, that defender could not have played that any better than what he did.
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And that's Yatim there on the right side line there, and all he's trying to do is brace himself for impact.
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He doesn't lower it in and try to go in at the receiver.
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The receiver lowers his head and he could find to do that.
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But all he's trying to do is braced himself.
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And you know what's weird about it to me is so touch on both of these.
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The pass interference or non call gets picked up.
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I'm of the mindset of this.
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You threw the flag.
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I think it should have been left to stand right.
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If you hadn't thrown the flag, I would have said, Listen, it's incidental, and that's what happens.
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You wanna go super micro on it? And they mentioned in the broadcast If Daniel Jones put that out towards the pylon, then one.
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Lewis can probably catch it clean without even worrying about the defender.
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And then if the defender is gonna hit him because he's gonna be even a little half a yard further away, then it makes the call a lot cleaner, so difficult one to take.
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But just because it happened at the end of the game doesn't mean that's the deciding factor on that on that other one.
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It's frustrating because so what's weird about it? ISS for the referees to make that call there and not seem to get into the fine intricacies of the play on the on the defensive past defensive roughing, you know, unnecessary roughness and then get into the intricacies of the end of the game.
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That's what's weird, and that's where I think if you're a Giants fan, maybe you're frustrated because you'd like to see the referees huddled up and say, Boy, he was just lowering himself to brace.
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The receiver initiates the contact.
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Your never never gonna call offensive unnecessary roughness, but at the very least, pick up the flag, say no foul on the play, and then you kind of understand the one of the back end.
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So in balance, in terms of how the referees looked in this one, in my opinion, and that's true around the NFL on on a lot of Sunday's.
00:06:20
Well, I mean, there was another pass interference called That was called, I guess I believe it was Bradbury.
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Yeah, they're the player.
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That was something I think shouldn't have been called because it didn't look like he was really, uh, impending the receiver at all.
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Yes, it looked like he had him wrapped up, but he really wasn't touching him.
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His arm was around him, but it really wasn't, uh, bothering him at all.
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And there was a couple of times where Bradbury was looking back for the ball when the ball was in the air.
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So I don't see that as a pass interference.
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And yet the one, uh, in the two point conversion was it just made no sense to me on how these referees were calling these past interferences.
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Yeah, that's the inconsistency.
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And again, the pass interference.
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Call the two point conversion.
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You say, boy, the defender didn't get his head around.
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Now they say over the ball hit him in his arm.
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That's great, But you always talk about get If you're your heads back at the quarterback, then that's how you avoid it.
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If it's not back there, that's when you get hit with it.
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So again, inconsistencies.
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Bradbury was hit with two pass interference penalty with one where he had his arm there and again.
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I tend to agree with you.
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He wasn't actually holding him.
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Maybe just put himself in a bad visual spot by having the arm there.
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The other one was what ended up putting the ball down inside the five yard line, where I'm gonna forget who it was for.
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For Tampa Bay on the right sideline looks for him in the ED Zone, and I think you I think it was ****ens if I'm not before it's taken.
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He had had some nice looking plays there, five catches for 36 overall.
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Even that one again, just in terms of consistency from the referees.
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I would have thought you would have huddled up and said Boy, that ball got thrown narrowly touching the back side of the end zone.
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I don't even know if that was a catchable ball.
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It's hard because Bradbury's a little bit behind him in his arm is there that's far more reasonable than the other one.
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But, you know, listen, it happens.
00:08:07
And at the end of the day, there's plenty of other things to point in this game that lead to a Giant's loss.
00:08:12
As frustrating as those moments may have been another thing that that, to me, stands out big.
00:08:19
Time is, Jones is the leading rusher on the Giants, and this kid is dangerous when he just tucks the ball on runs.
00:08:28
And yet he doesn't do this until the final drive in order to get that first down of the game.
00:08:36
Do you think possibly Maybe there was a few times where he should have just tucked it and ran Were some opportunities probably showed up rather than possibly, uh like, Wow, I'll just ask it just right there and then we'll go into the next thing.
00:08:53
Well, I would say so, you know, and a lot of Giants fans look at Jason Garrett a lot of time with big talking point the following morning.
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Is the play calling? What didn't he do? Or did he dio, you know, and they even had that late in this one with a run play.
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They ended up converting, ultimately on a big fourth in 16.
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You know, we're able to move the chains on a number of times there, Um, but if you think about it in microcosm of the two interceptions that Jones through and then combine it with the one on the final drive when he hits slated to convert and and get and move the chains, it's all really similar there.
00:09:22
I think these were gonna be that these air the teaching moments for Garrett when it comes to Daniel Jones on the two interceptions.
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Maybe your point now.
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You didn't see designed run plays last two weeks.
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Big design run plays that totally surprised it had one in this game, actually, but it went only for about seven or eight yards. Little pickup.
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Three. Russia's 20 yards for Daniel Jones.
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Again.
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Two elements. You're protecting the quarterback.
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You're also protecting a young offensive line that's still learning.
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So sometimes when you do those big design run plays, they end up coming back on a holding penalty.
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They end up getting, you know, mitigated by a mistake by a young team.
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But on both interceptions.
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What you're looking for him to do there is.
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Take that ball down, go ahead and fall forward for a yard or two, even maybe lose a yard or two and just live to play another down on the conversion that he made.
00:10:07
He actually, when he's in that pocket, he could have stepped up and worked himself forward into the right and maybe would have been able to run.
00:10:14
Now he ends up converting it.
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It's about his 50 50 ball, as he had with the interceptions, and he actually backs himself out of the pocket and almost into a sack.
00:10:24
So this is the mental game that's going on right now.
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It's the mental growth where, where he wants to do it all.
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He wants to find that play.
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And I think a lot of young quarterbacks suffer from this, and it's hard because he's done it somewhat consistently.
00:10:36
Here is just buddy.
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There's another play.
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There's another play coming as long as you don't turn it over as long as you don't make the big mistake.
00:10:43
The little mistake is a sack for two yard loss.
00:10:45
The big mistake is the interception that changes field position that gives Tom Brady in the Bucks a chance to get more points in the first half of the game.
00:10:54
At halftime, the Giants were leading 14 to 6 in the pregame show that we were talking, I said The only chance I see the Giants winning is if Garrett draws up a whole lot of plays for Daniel Jones is throwing like Tom Brady.
00:11:10
He is getting the ball out of his hands quickly and just picking up your 5678 yard quick passes.
00:11:19
And that seems like what, what was going on in the first half? How the Giants was, uh, mitigating this, this bad offensive line, you know, for him and just getting the ball out of his hands really quickly.
00:11:32
It looked like they had Tampa kind of on the defensive, so to speak in that first half, why wouldn't they just continue doing that in the second? It seemed like Jones was holding the ball a lot longer in the second half rather than what he was doing in the first half.
00:11:47
Yeah, so you know, one point, I think coming out of the first half, where I believe he was 11 for 17 but 10 of 13 on passes that he got out of his hand in under 2.
00:11:55
5 seconds.
00:11:56
So, to your point, right, quick release.
00:11:58
Find that hot route and go Now.
00:12:00
Now, the adjustments getting made on the other side.
00:12:03
So now you talk about.
00:12:04
And by the way, even early in this game, there were a couple of passes that we're getting completed where you know, his boy, they're they're trying to undercut.
00:12:10
Tampa Bay is looking to take these risks now.
00:12:12
It left them potentially exposed on the interception to the right side.
00:12:15
The first one blown coverage on the left.
00:12:17
I don't put on Daniel Jones not to see that, because you don't in pre snap.
00:12:20
And they said this in the post game.
00:12:22
I think it was slightly said he goes, Yeah, but you don't We don't anticipate the guy falling down or blowing the coverage like it's not like, Hey, when he when he totally leaves you wide open, then I'll throw you the ball.
00:12:30
So you know that that's kind of the neither here nor there.
00:12:33
But what ends up happening is I mentioned Sterling Shepard.
00:12:36
Um, they miss on a connection down the left side, where Shepherd is looking back a little bit too soon.
00:12:41
So you can't run.
00:12:42
It's fast when your head's turned around, is keeping it forward.
00:12:45
That's predicated on the offensive line, not always giving Daniel Jones enough time.
00:12:49
So now the timing of the receiver and the quarterback gets thrown off it well, so that's an overthrown ball quote unquote.
00:12:55
That really is about timing, you know, and having consistency out there on the outside Thea other big touchdown play.
00:13:00
That that Slaten came right out and said, In the post game, that's on me.
00:13:03
Lost the ball didn't follow through on my route.
00:13:05
That could have been, Ah, big touchdown pass.
00:13:08
That puts Daniel Jones up and around 300 passing yards.
00:13:11
And even with the two picks, 3 to 2 you live with that, um, the Giants consistent consistently took their shots and even, you know, in the postgame judge said, You know, it's volume shots here where we're trying to take our looks.
00:13:22
They weren't hitting on a number of them, and at some point you have to make again adjustments from Tampa Bay's defense.
00:13:29
Yes, and at some point You have to say, If we keep going to this well off trying to take these shots, we're gonna end up throwing a deep interception potentially, or we're going to find ourselves in the third and Longs.
00:13:42
One of the really nice things that complemented in the first half was the combined rushing efforts of old man Alfred Morris.
00:13:48
And then Wayne Goldman has been on this roster 12 for 44 3.
00:13:50
7 yards, Nothing to write home about but 3.
00:13:53
5 from Alfred Morris is well, they rushed in total as a team for 101 yards.
00:13:58
That was putting them in second in sixes and third and five.
00:14:02
And that's not a place of the Giants have lived.
00:14:04
When you do that, then those shots become more.
00:14:06
Available in the second half is you're trying to maintain a Li than trying to get back into it.
00:14:11
They were set up in more third and longs.
00:14:12
It's harder to run what your game script looks like if you don't take advantage of those 1st and 2nd down rushing opportunities.
00:14:19
When you look at the overall statistics of this game, where Tampa Bay and the Giants both pretty much had almost equal time of possession.
00:14:28
The score is darn near equal, 23 25.
00:14:32
The yards per play were dead, even at 5.
00:14:35
2 yards per play for both uh, passing yards rushing yards.
00:14:41
All very, very close.
00:14:43
Total yards was 3 44 to 3 57.
00:14:48
This is what a lot of people consider one of the most dangerous offense in the NFL.
00:14:54
Versus what? A lot of people I mean they were.
00:14:57
The Giants were listed probably the worst offense in the NFL overall, and yet they were able to keep things even with the Buccaneers.
00:15:08
Is this a really good sign moving forward for the rest of the season? Or do you think that it's still the New York Giants? Lucky to win maybe three games this year? Oh, well, this year, Specifically, Yes, you know.
00:15:20
I mean, listen, look, it look it In the short term, when I line up Aziz, good as as good as Borough has looked out there in Cincinnati, we're going tohave Washington, Philadelphia, and then the Bangles before we get into the Seahawks and the Cardinals.
00:15:32
These next three games are all very winnable games because you're not talking about a Tom Brady.
00:15:38
I mean the the slew of veterans on that side of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, not only on the field, but on their coaching staff as well, Incredibly experience.
00:15:46
So the fact that you come up shortness isn't surprising.
00:15:49
Um, you know, go back over these last handful of games as well.
00:15:52
Lost to Dallas by three. Lost one.
00:15:55
Washington by a point lost to the Eagles by a point lost to the Bucks by two points.
00:15:59
So the Giants air in these games.
00:16:01
And unlike last year, where they were doing some window dressing late in games and getting a late score that took it from a 13 point deficit to a six and you know, we lost by a single score? Not really.
00:16:12
You were down two scores most of the way.
00:16:13
They've been in these games over the course of this season.
00:16:16
And yes, especially on the defensive side of the bowl.
00:16:19
You can look at this team, and what you like about it from that standpoint is, you know, you only saw about 6% in terms of snaps.
00:16:28
Only a handful Carter Coughlin got his first sack here, combining with Cam Brown those air to later round rookies that the Giants drafted and got a little bit of a run in this game, you think about Bradbury has brought in.
00:16:38
He's on a three year deal.
00:16:39
You think about Blake Martinez? He's in on a three year deal.
00:16:42
Deal is, well, you know.
00:16:44
So there are a lot of components at each level that make a lot of sense.
00:16:47
What happens on the defensive line there, where Tomlinson is up for a contract at the end of this season, where Leonard Williams is playing on a franchise tag? Decisions around that are going to be important, but But this defensive unit is really on Lee, a premiere edge rusher, pure guy there in a 34 system that can really get consistently home on the quarterback.
00:17:07
That's gonna change the dynamic, and then you look for a quarter cornerback as well.
00:17:11
But over the remaining games here, there's some winnable ones, you know, do I think that the Giants are going to get beyond that because, as I mentioned not to not to filibuster here.
00:17:21
But once they get to the Seahawks and the Cardinals.
00:17:23
It's followed up by the Browns, the Ravens and then finishing with the Cowboys.
00:17:27
So while the next three games are very winnable, every game after that excluding.
00:17:32
Maybe Dallas is a game that you think you're gonna be in his underdog with teams playing for a lot not unlike Tampa Bay and they could be close losses.
00:17:39
But they'll probably still be losses.
00:17:40
There's a team that that's probably gonna live four, maybe 51 range by the end of the year.
00:17:44
And it's and it's a good thing.
00:17:46
Everything fundamentally looks better this year than it did from last season.
00:17:50
Coming into this game, a former giant, Jason Pierre Paul, said he was going to wreck the New York Giants on his homecoming and hey, had a couple of plays in there where he really made his presence. Felt.
00:18:03
What was your thoughts on Piers game against the Giants? Yeah, listen left side of the line there, where he's doing his work.
00:18:10
That's where we had Shane Lamu getting his first start of his career in spite of the fact that he and Thomas collectively allowed nine pressures on Daniel Jones.
00:18:18
Three I test, as we say, looks pretty good there.
00:18:21
Thomas looked more consistent that he has over the course of his rookie season as well.
00:18:26
It's interesting.
00:18:28
If you want to talk about Hey, you're coming for the next.
00:18:30
I believe it's something that Jason Pierre Paul used, ironically, having had a serious neck injury that that could have shortened his career even after he left New York and once Tampa Bay, Um, I thought they mitigated it for the most part.
00:18:41
Now, now what I will say is, as this game got into the later stages, you saw and, um, makin SooHoo NPR poll starting to get there with consistency starting to get pressure quick more quickly on Daniel Jones, I wanted to just see if I could pull up Jason Pierre.
00:18:56
Paul had five solo tackles in this.
00:18:58
Had the one sack had to for a loss just the one Q B hit.
00:19:02
It's not a bad stat line by any stretch of the imagination.
00:19:05
This is a guy who I think has up over now.
00:19:07
That puts him about 27 sacks since 2018 and joining the Tampa Bay Buccaneers just about 55 over his first seven seasons with New York.
00:19:16
So he's looked better.
00:19:17
He's playing in a complimentary system.
00:19:19
It was a strong game from him, but I'm relatively impressed The way he was mitigated all things being considered by this young offensive line.
00:19:27
He's a good player.
00:19:28
He had a nice game, but I did have my concerns coming in of looking at a stat line where you go.
00:19:34
Three Q B hits, two Q B sax, maybe a strip fumbling.
00:19:37
I thought that this could have been a real record kind of game, and overall, I walk away about it saying, You know, thanks so much.
00:19:45
Continue to have a great time down there, Pierre.
00:19:47
And I'm glad that we looked at least relatively competent, taking on a really strong defensive front, one of many that the Giants to face in the first half of the season.
00:19:55
There was a play where I believe it was Evan Ingram that was running the football, and Daniel Jones ran out in front, and I think it was where he noticed that he blocked monster defensive tackle.
00:20:08
Uh, my goodness, what are your thoughts about your your starting quarterback and whom you think is going to be your franchise guy moving on, going out there and putting his body on the line in front of a guy who's 33 50.
00:20:25
Listen, 65 to 20.
00:20:27
The man's got the mass to him, right? Uh, you know, again, not unlike the design run plays you.
00:20:32
You want to mitigate risk.
00:20:34
Their, uh, this is what I like about the late touchdown to Golden Tate.
00:20:38
It shows that Daniel Jones has the touch and has the deep accuracy.
00:20:42
It's consistency that you're concerned with, and you want to see them growing.
00:20:45
But even a play like that, they said it into the game.
00:20:49
Daniel Jones is beating himself up right now harder than anybody else's.
00:20:52
And on that play, all he wants to do is get out in front and give his guy a chance to get some more yardage.
00:20:57
I always applaud it.
00:20:59
I hate it if they get injured and I hate anybody in the league.
00:21:01
You hate to see it, but but you love that type of effort from your quarterback.
00:21:05
And that is a, you know, a footnote developmental piece about being a leader and everybody you know, back into the game.
00:21:12
Peppers came out when they asked him about it.
00:21:13
He said, Listen, we're not out there getting.
00:21:15
I'll clean it up. Butts kicked.
00:21:17
You know, he said, we're playing hard.
00:21:18
We believe that we're you know, we are growing.
00:21:20
We're getting better.
00:21:21
We are improving.
00:21:22
Slaten takes responsibility on certain things.
00:21:23
Slaten steps up and says, We believe that Daniel Jones capable.
00:21:26
So is that, you know, saying the right PR thing.
00:21:29
Maybe.
00:21:30
But I truly believe that, like the collective core of this team really does believe in one another and believes what they're building with Under Joe Judge.
00:21:37
So Ah, little play like that is how in the film room come Tuesday, you go, boy, you really wish you hadn't thrown those two picks.
00:21:45
But also, look, look, look what you are doing.
00:21:47
Look how you're staying in the game.
00:21:48
Staying engaged in the game and not allowing those turnovers to take you out of it.
00:21:52
Well, then you don't make that late touchdown pass.
00:21:54
At least give a chance to be back involved.
00:21:57
Well, one thing we can say is that Daniel Jones, after probably being scolded at after those first two interceptions and that last drive he threw the ball away.
00:22:08
It was the first time I've seen him do it.
00:22:10
I was like, Oh my God, he finally learned.
00:22:13
Do you think that this might actually carry over for the rest of his career? Maybe this season, finally understanding.
00:22:20
Hey, you know, sometimes I just gotta live.
00:22:22
Could play in the next down.
00:22:23
Well, so here's the Here's the ironic thing.
00:22:25
Or, you know, from a Giants fan perspective, you could go back to Week one.
00:22:29
He threw a bad interception, and then the next Siri's.
00:22:32
He threw that ball away a couple weeks later. Similar thing.
00:22:35
Learn from whatever Daniel Jones is learning within the games.
00:22:39
Now it's about carrying it over from, you know, from week.
00:22:42
Exactly that.
00:22:43
That that's that's the weird thing about it, and again it falls in his mind set up.
00:22:47
I wanna make the big play.
00:22:48
I want to do it.
00:22:49
You don't want to get it done.
00:22:50
So, yes, it's always encouraging because you know that he gets it.
00:22:54
You know that he understands, you know, that he's doing the right thing now.
00:22:57
It's just about.
00:22:58
And by the way, this is what he like.
00:22:59
Manning suffered from late in his career, and he understood that.
00:23:01
He was like, Listen, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get killed out here.
00:23:03
I'm gonna chuck this thing away.
00:23:04
But consistency from the offensive line is crucial because then Daniel Jones feels comfortable holding onto the ball and making the right read or getting rid of it.
00:23:16
It's about knowing when the pressure is going to come to you.
00:23:18
So even last night, where the line did play pretty consistent in front of them, he's got seven other weeks where it hasn't been consistent where he's been getting his butt kicked.
00:23:27
Where you have Thomas surrendering over 40 pressures from the left tackle position on his blindside.
00:23:33
Those things are all in his mind, so wanting to make a big when he finally gets a chance toe hang in and make a big play.
00:23:39
He's trying to do everything he can to make the big play because he doesn't know if the next one is going to be where he gets totally blindsided.
00:23:44
He coughs up a strip fumble, and then we're talking about how Daniel Jones can't get ball security.
00:23:49
I guess what? A lot of quarterbacks don't have that ability when you're getting nailed by £350 defensive lineman.
00:23:54
So the growth is there, and now it is about carrying it over long term here.
00:23:59
This is the midway point, By the way.
00:24:00
I'm sure you do this with the Colts as well, right? Midway point of the season.
00:24:04
Let's take a look.
00:24:05
See what we like.
00:24:06
See what we don't like.
00:24:07
And now let's take a look at that next eight games, sample size and see how that compares at the end of the year.
00:24:11
And that's where you gotta live with that with Daniel Jones and this team as a whole with Daniel Jones, I think the one thing that he is really needs to get under his belt and understand is the the flow of the game I get.
00:24:26
I get trying to go for it if you're down and out in the game and you really got to come, you know, trying to close in.
00:24:34
But when you are in a game or leading as we saw last night, it is much better just took to throw it away rather than than had the chance at an interception.
00:24:46
And this is something that Zo up here.
00:24:48
He's got to understand that flow.
00:24:51
Otherwise, uh, there will be game situations later on that he you need him to do this, but you've been pounding it in his head, throw it away, throw it away, and then he ends up throwing it away.
00:25:05
But you're down 21 points in the fourth quarter, you know, there, there's game flow that he's really got to get down.
00:25:11
Yes, no, it's a fantastic point, Lawrence, because because beyond the interceptions, it's about when it was happening and what was happening in the game.
00:25:19
You're winning the game.
00:25:21
Your defense is controlling Tampa Bay's offense right now.
00:25:25
That means that you're entering into the field position battle.
00:25:28
Let's go ahead and keep putting them inside their 20.
00:25:31
That's okay.
00:25:32
That's ZA net win.
00:25:33
Let's give our defense a lot of field toe work with where they could try to continue to slow them down, hold them to feel goal opportunities, and we can build from there.
00:25:42
There's a morale piece to it, too, right? It's deflating to the offense.
00:25:45
It's deflating to the defense when they get a stop and then you have to turn back around and try to ramp it back up immediately so that no, that's a big proponent of.
00:25:52
And then to your 200.
00:25:53
2 when you're down late in the fourth quarter, guess what you can throw picks that when you're when you're down to scores and it's OK, that's what we want you to grip it and rip it and don't hold on to it.
00:26:01
So, yes, mental awareness off in the first quarter, second quarter when we're in the game were up 14 6 going towards halftime.
00:26:09
Don't risk anything when you're in the early third quarter.
00:26:11
Don't risk anything.
00:26:13
Then when you get late in games, that's when you can rip it.
00:26:15
So that's about taking those sacks instead of the interceptions, throwing it away, even taking intentional grounding.
00:26:21
That's all right.
00:26:22
Do any of those things that you want and just avoid the big turnover mistakes because there was a point in this game when the Giants were winning the turnover battle, and that was one of the key components of maybe staying in this thing.
00:26:33
As you throw the picks as they take over the turnover battle, it shifts.
00:26:37
Finally, a big Plato Evans, 25 17 your behind now behind the April and still showed the ability to execute getting down the field there.
00:26:44
All right, so I want to thank, uh, Yankee Mary 45 National love 95 summers.
00:26:51
What's going on? Summers and Cubs rock out of 65 people that are watching currently.
00:26:56
Right now, before we in this Is there any finishing final thoughts about this game that you would like to get out? Yeah, Well, I'd like to remind people that if you want all these great final thoughts feel free to subscribe and make a profile here you can use the hashtag SCN NFL.
00:27:13
You can obviously foreign follow Laurence Owen and myself doing our thing.
00:27:17
Um, no, this is a growth project, my pushback.
00:27:20
And you and I have talked about this with Ray.
00:27:22
I think the Colts fan base is a much more steady, usually middle of the country is a little bit more patient with how things go.
00:27:30
The coast have a harder time.
00:27:32
This is what this is. It's the rebuild.
00:27:34
Friends take the positives.
00:27:36
Look for the negatives to be improved upon.
00:27:38
But that's the expectations.
00:27:40
Be happy that you played with a team that's going to go on a deep playoff run and you went toe to toe with them.
00:27:45
Not playing your cleanest game.
00:27:47
Last footnote, I would mention, is the Giants have played relatively clean.
00:27:51
Overall, they did have seven penalties in this game.
00:27:54
That's what will cost the team.
00:27:56
That is not as good from a talent standpoint.
00:27:58
Gotta play clean football, protect the football.
00:28:00
That's what you look for going forward and get excited to more division games just around the bend here.
00:28:04
Well, thanks for giving me that extra time on a day that you weren't supposed to be here with me.
00:28:09
Uh, your insight.
00:28:11
It was very valuable, not only to myself, but everybody was watching.
00:28:15
So thanks again.
00:28:17
Probably See you, uh, with Thursday? Yeah.
00:28:21
You And I'll be back on doing Thursday night preview for that for the match up there.
00:28:25
And then we'll come back in on Friday with our post game wrap up, and O G.
00:28:28
P will be doing the stream on Friday as well.
00:28:29
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