Alright, friends, let's make it official.
P with Adam arm wrecked.
And of course, the healthy, the wealthy, the wise Mr Andrew Mackiewicz.
Adam, you know it's election day.
I know we're gonna be talking a little bit about it weaving it into a giant stuff.
But, man, you know what I realized this election day? It is significantly easier if you just send your vote in, like, weeks earlier.
And I see all these lines.
There's, like, four hour lines and I'm the worst that procrastination.
And I'm like, Wow, if you do things like in a inappropriate amount of time, it actually isn't a pain in the neck.
Yeah, you know what? We did the same thing, filled it out, sealed inside of 18 different envelopes.
Ah, a lot of different forms.
I had a triple double stamp, you know, No original sin.
The double stamp. You can't exactly.
But we do the same thing, went to an official ballot, dropped it off.
Hopefully if you weren't able to do that because I know it's maybe not as accessible everywhere around the country.
You're getting out there.
You're bearing the cold and casting your vote think that is important and hopefully you're making your voice heard today on Election Day.
And as we did, footnote here diving into this.
What was, unfortunately, Monday Night Football, where the Giants fall 25 23 to those Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the ageless? I guess now we have to say it.
Angels Tom Brady.
They do fall there, I guess.
Let's start here.
There's a lot to unpack from the game.
We're gonna trend positive because that's kind of our thing.
We've been in that mode all year around the idea of yes, we're losing games.
But, yes, we are in a much better rebuilding structure than we have been in years past.
Are you casting your ballot for Daniel Jones? He got up on the podium last night.
He slung Ah, lot of his talking points around the field, and at the end of the day, two touchdowns, two interceptions.
How do you feel is you stand inside the booth.
Oh, it's so frustrating.
And the reason why it's frustrating and and I know we've said this quite a few times, Adam.
It's frustrating because we care like we see Daniel Jones, and we're like, Man, he can make that run. He could.
He could make that throw like he's got the guts on fourth down to throw the ball.
You know, to Darius lately, out of the pocket, he has it on for the 16 to throw it to Sterling Shepard.
You see these flashes of brilliance and this moxie that he has.
And that's also the reason why you're so frustrated because you're like, Stop trying to extend plays that aren't there.
Why are you not throwing that ball away? Both times? It's It's just so hard because it's like he's so close to being the guy where you could just, like, punch the ticket and be like forem or years, right, like and and that's what you wanna dio.
But every now and then, there's these, like head scratching place that you're like, man, if we just didn't have those, we would have one last night.
Yeah, you know what, and there's a lot of things to highlight throughout it.
I know everybody Listen, go ahead and check out Twitter.
If you want to get into the bashing mode, you want to say it's timeto tank for Trevor and all that other nonsense.
But what I saw was and in the postgame, you know, you had Darius Slay and come out and say I lost that ball on the deep end zone strike that was there for me to catch.
Now that it's only one play doesn't diminish the interceptions.
But all of a sudden, if you're talking about coming out of a game or maybe Daniel Jones threw three touchdowns and threw for 300 plus yards, it's all gonna come out in the wash.
The interceptions air difficult because it's the same.
It's a very, very similar play, right? Gets to the outside edge of the pocket, starts to get tackled, tries to make something happen here.
And then, oddly enough, later in the game.
And they did this on the broadcast.
There was almost applaud throughout the booth as he threw one out of balance down the right side and they were like, There you go.
All right, buddy? Eso you don't listen.
It's the good and the bad.
It is the growing pains, and I guess you know, for me, like I'm still on board with it now, one of the concerns I will say there was a play late in the game where he made that pass to Darius.
Later on the right side, as he's stepping up into the pocket, he starts to shuffle back and almost walks himself into the pressure, as opposed to navigating up and giving himself an opportunity.
So that being the case, I still take away the positives that I saw.
The balls were there, close one on Shepherd that could have had down the left sideline that he didn't quite extend out for either.
You know, this is the nature of these plays.
It's goingto happen on a week to week basis.
It's the growing pains.
Everybody calm down.
I'm still on board with Daniel Jones.
He's still on my ticket.
It's because people see the play of Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson.
And, you know, even Tom Brady was pretty decent last night.
Obviously, uh, the thing that I think about Adam is what do giant fans expect Daniel Jones to be? Is he supposed to be a top five quarterback in the league? Is that is that the impression that everyone's given? Because if it is, I have something to tell everyone he's not a top five quarterback in the league.
The real question is, is Daniel Jones a top half starting quarterback in the NFL? Is he one of the best 16 quarterbacks, or do we see enough from him to say yes were set at this area? He could be a top half quarterback.
Let's focus our needs on other items.
Yep, for sure, we do.
A quick shout out over there on SportsCastr foam finger from Pat. Jack.
Thanks for that, man.
My fingers get cold in the winter and foam hands are lovely on the other side of the ball.
Obviously, in this one, Tom Brady, 28 of 40 70% completion percentage.
He found, uh, Mike Evans finally there late in the game to help solidify that victory.
Put them up eight.
And then the giants surge back.
We know that there was that flag in the end zone on the two point conversion.
Listen, here's the reality check on that play.
They shouldn't have thrown the flag in the first place.
It's very delicate light, uh, you know, incidental contact in a lot of ways.
And, oh, by the way, you do get punished.
If you're Daniel Jones not putting it out to the pylon because if it's outside there and that defender then runs through Dion Lewis, then you have a much stronger case than saying, Hey, it's a bang bang play and it hits the defender in the arm I'm not.
You can nitpick it and we can.
You could be frustrated by it.
I'm not gonna take that away from anybody.
However, you have to live in the reality.
That was a very bang bang quick play.
I know what the league in general does around these.
I'm not gonna dwell on that.
I get to frustrated by it.
Listen there there were some very questionable past calls and it was extremely frustrating to see um, when you when you see you know, the first one that really got me angry was three.
Yet, um, getting the illegal 15 yard personal foul penalty for literally standing and waiting for a defender to come battering Ram style camera break went into his face and they gave yet, um ah, 15 yard penalty.
And he didn't even move on.
The play like that to me was even worse than than the pass interference But Adam, I will disagree with you.
They are giving offensive players such a benefit of the doubt that, you know, you saw the Mike Evans play on third down with Bradbury.
He couldn't get his head around, so they threw the flag for pass interference there.
I mean, by the letter of the law.
The defender did not turn his head around and he made contact with a player trying to catch the football before the football.
Right? And so for me, like either let's just be consistent and not call it or let's be consistent and call it.
And the fact that someone actually threw a flag and then someone else came in was like, No, I disagree with you.
Makes it even more soul crushing for Jonathan's.
I guess my point is it's like if it was the reverse way and they had Now I understand this way, Joe. Judge, look at it right.
If you throw the flag, you had the call, right? Stand with that call.
So I do get that side of it.
And if you want to take the approach is on the on review plays right where you go.
It needs to be irrefutable evidence to to reverse that call.
I do get that, but flip it the other way, say they hadn't thrown the flag.
You're not going to be losing your mind saying, Oh my God, I can't believe that you look at the replay and go boy, it's right there.
It's so close and what have you But I do get where you're coming from and I guess maybe overall, it's more me also taking the look and saying, Listen, the reality is that wasn't the play that we should be focusing on in terms of winning or losing this game.
It's easy because it's right there at the end.
It's a chance to tie it.
I know Giant fans don't want to hear this, but don't you almost feel like on a scale of 1 to 10? Last night was like an 8.
5 out of 10 in terms of what was successful for the Giants, because when you think about it, the defense looked great.
You see building blocks.
You see people like Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram playing well yesterday.
You see Daniel Jones make some of the throws.
Not all of them.
But some of those and the Giants still lost a close game to a perennial Super Bowl contender.
Now, with Tom Brady like this was the best case scenario if the Giants would have pulled this game out.
Miraculously, it all of a sudden is like, all right, we know the skill, skill levels there.
Do we try to go for the division again? And we've become disillusioned with winning six games in the division.
So, like play competitive against a Super Bowl contender.
That's enough for me to be excited of something that we could build upon but not have the disillusionment that some giant fans would have.
Yes, and you and I, By the way, we lived a little bit in that delusion, and early in the season, right? It took a few games a few weeks, a few, you know, experiences of seeing what we had on the court on the field or not toe understand? Hey, this isn't gonna be that type of year, and I think you're right.
I looked at this game again immediately.
As the game concluded, I thought, Yeah, I'm not totally shocked by the results, and there's a lot of positive to take away from this, and that is what it's about.
And Joe Judge said it again in the post game press conference.
We're not looking for moral victories, but guess what I am and I think they're worth having.
I think it's worth accounting for those the simple thing to think about.
I know Giant fans will be frustrated with the loss, and they're gonna pile on Daniel Jones for this whole thing.
The last four losses that the Giants have had have been by four points, 1.
1 point and two points.
They're just not making that final play.
It's not like they're the Jets where they just get blown off the field and you're like, Where do we go? What do we do with this team? Were one or two plays away in every single game from being up 500 team, which is a huge improvement from where the Giants have been.
So for me, I take a lot of positives out of this.
People are going to make this a referendum on Daniel Jones.
I'm not really there yet.
I'm loving the way this team competed and most of all.
The thing that I love the most is this was a tough loss.
Daniel Jones clearly made critical mistakes.
The entire team has everyone's back.
Everyone keeps saying I need to do a better job.
I need to look internal.
I need to make the plays as opposed Thio.
This guy struggled.
He needs to throw me the ball more.
And funnily enough, the only person that shouted Get me the ball more was your best friend Golden tape.
I know, and we're going to get to that a little bit later in the show.
Here is fun because that's exactly what was coming into my mind as you were talking about everyone being cohesive, which, for the most part, across this roster again, this is a moral victory.
The team is unified.
The defense's unified with the offense in terms of how they speak about things.
On the back end of the game, Jabrill Peppers came out very confident around.
Hey, we're in these games.
We're playing our butts off.
We're not getting our butts kicked.
I'm cleaning up, I think a little bit.
But, you know, we we feel good about what we're doing.
Do we feel good about losing? Of course not.
But we're not going to allow ourselves to get too low about this as well, because it's important to realize the success and the building blocks that you're putting in place going forward.
That being the case.
Alex, Thank you for the tip as well.
We turn our attention now to Oh, snap a recurring segment now on the on the podcast, which I'm really getting into here.
We're seeing some reps here for.
The Giants will start briefly on the defensive side of the ball because my boy Carter Coughlin gets in on the action.
He did it at him.
But baby, he gets there.
Cam Brown is actually in the area at the same time, but Carter Coughlin brings down Tom Brady for a sack.
Cam Brown also had I believe, the exact same number of reps.
You had those percentages there in front of you.
6% I believe, of the defensive snaps.
Yeah, both Cam Brown and Carter Coughlin, four snaps in the game, only 6% of defensive snaps, but they made it count.
Hey, if you're gonna get a sack, you know, 25% of the time, sign me up.
Listen, the defensive front looks strong here.
They mixed in some of the veteran guys that we have brought in and elevated from the practice squad in spite of the fact, you know, Yeah, Adam played 100% of the defensive snaps as well, in spite of the fact of of not having Ryan Lewis the mixed results that we've had from him but consistency Lee showing up.
I thought that Yatim look better this game than he had earlier in the year when he was really getting beaten up.
You know, Ryan Lewis and Jabrill Peppers looked strong in this game.
Blake Martinez keeps doing his thing.
So ah, lot of positives on that side of it, where we really get our attention and really get charged up here is in and around, Of course, the offensive line.
We're not trying to bury the lead shoutout Thio DPM Ray, my boy on SportsCastr who loves when we talk offensive line.
Let's just briefly touch here.
Matt Peart played 32% of the snaps he took, took those away from Camp Fleming.
So that's why they continue to get him some looks here on the offensive line at the right tackle position.
And then it is, of course, will Hernandez out with Cove in 19.
Shane Lamu, fifth round pick thrust into a starting role and in spite of him in a Thomas combining to surrender nine total pressures on Daniel Jones.
I love what I saw.
I love what I saw, and by the way, Andy Mackiewicz.
Let me go ahead and clink, clink, clunk.
Stack up your soapbox.
Feel free to take the podium.
You were talking about this, I think, going all the way back to a week.
Its's noticeable, you know, Like you said, there are the nine pressures.
I do think Daniel Jones kind of walking into a couple of those thio make it higher than it Waas, but the offense help you out there and walk into the attacker.
I'll just kind of walk back even on, like the fourth down play that we mentioned before he was, you know, backpedaling into pressure as opposed to driving forward.
Listen, Adam, it's unfortunate the way that this has played out with Will Hernandez, uh, testing positive for Cove in 19.
You never want to see a player lose their spot due to injury or one of these cir***stances.
We obviously wish him well.
But I have been saying this for weeks, and I've been thinking it four years that Will Hernandez has been on the left side of our offensive line four years, and we've had different left tackles in Nate Solder and Andrew Thomas.
And we've had different centers.
And Spencer Pulley, John Jalopy.
And yet we're getting destroyed on the left side of the line.
And you know what? At some point, you gotta look at the one guy that's been the consistency there and that, and that's Will Hernandez.
We take him out of it.
Our our run game looks even better than it's ever looked.
You know, as you said before, Wayne Gallman and even Alfred Morris, they're not a plus superstar athletes, but they're getting 3.
5 to 4 yards to carry.
Behind this line.
You saw there was a little bit of push forward.
You saw a little bit more tenacity and athleticism from someone like Shane Lemieux to me, that is the biggest take away is I feel like we're starting to infuse a little bit Mawr youth and a little bit mawr innovation across our offensive line, and it paid off.
We were in the game against a team that is projected to be in the Super Bowl this year.
And eso. Now, let's ask the bigger question.
Then here, first of all, now here, here's the funny thing friends.
We've talked about it before.
We think that that moving onto a new GM could be the right move in the off season.
What I will say is, we start to get into this mixed bag now, because now we're talking about if we're excited about, you know, the shame Lemieux getting in there and looking good.
If we're excited about part, all of a sudden, these have to credit has to be given where it's due.
We'll save that for another day.
Call it a tease as far as that referendum on Dave Gettleman.
But when do we anticipate? And is this visually, as I lay it out for you and for those listening? Thomas is a Thomas Lemieux Gates Hernandez, pert now because of what you saw from Lamu there on the left side, and you think that that strengthens that opportunity.
Or, as we were, at least led to believe Lamu was going to be this versatile piece because they were flexing him from Guard Center coming out of college.
And you could say, We want to run it as Thomas Hernandez, Gates Lamu and then part.
When do we see what is going to be the young guns of this offensive line is they brought them along steady.
As we go, it feels like we're there are, well, bye week away from seeing this.
It all depends on what happens with Kevin Zeitler.
It really does, because he is our most experienced offensive linemen.
He is also probably our best linemen, even though he has had a little bit of a regression.
Historically, he's played very well, been top 10 top 15 in all of guard play.
I think this is tough because Adam, I hate to say it, but I think Hernandez is a liability no matter which side of the ball he's on.
But what I do think is encouraging is I think it's a little bit easier to go out in the free agent market and pick up a guard than it is to say, a left tackle or right tackle because there's such a hot commodity.
So for me, I'm thinking Mawr that it's, uh it's Andrew Thomas, Shane Lamu, Nick Gates, Zettler and Pert as you just so eloquently put on the screen.
I think that that is mawr.
What I I believe, would make more sense because you still need a little bit of better ship veteran leadership in Zettler being there, especially with all those guys across the front line being within, you know, two years just just into the league and most of them rookies, I don't know.
What are your thoughts about the offensive line? It is interesting, man s.
So here's the way I would look at it if you thought that the Giants were in the mode of, say, the New York Jets of tanking their way down and trading offs.
Um, not just players that maybe And we're going because we're gonna get into that deadline, which looms today at four PM but also important players, right? Functional players in the offense on the defensive side of the ball in the Jets case.
But for me, if you look at it and said, Well, well, what are we gonna lose here, right? If we move Zettler and you could make that choice, are we then still gonna have a somewhat diminished product in front of Daniel Jones? Then if we again are, are talking about building blocks, you know, starting to feel that structure Now listen will likely be here next year. Maybe not.
But if we're finding consistency in front of Daniel Jones and it's helping the run game and it's helping them develop, then I think you maybe have to sacrifice not getting that fifth or sixth round pick for Zeitler and say, Yeah, he offers us enough stability here that it's worth having him here on this roster for the remainder of the season so that we put the best product out in front of them Now.
The flip side of that would be, though, if you're going to get Lamu in there and and we'll see, we kind of thought this around the Thomas P.
So obviously high draft pick, you expect him to get back in there.
But as Pert started to bubble up, we said, Okay.
How you gonna find him, reps? Now we're seeing it almost exclusively there with Fleming on the right side.
If you go with Zeitler and you start to give them you reps, it is over for Hernandez and that I'm okay with that.
But you're saying that that is now over and he will not be a starter on this line next season.
So do they do the same treatment? I'll flip it back to you before we move off of our What I you know.
I love it. Offensive line talk.
Do you think that they maybe look at it and do what they did with Thomas's? He was struggling.
Start to give purdah little mix of reps here.
I know it was punishment for being late to a meeting.
Do we maybe see Hernandez and Shane Lamu share some reps along with Zeitler? And you just find them? You reps again here for another week or two before you may be full blown.
Make the switch.
See what? Those results play out too.
Yeah, I don't think that we need to necessarily use this offensive line lineup exclusively and they all have to play 100% snaps.
I do like what they've been doing with Pert Camp Fleming.
I do think that there's a good mix.
They're both players can stay fresh.
They can get coaching in the middle of the game, in and out of the lineup.
I'm very happy with that.
I think she, Lamu and Hernandez there's gonna be some kind of shift to.
But I don't think you go from Hernandez playing 100% of the steps to playing zero.
I just don't I don't see that happening.
But anyone that watched that game saw that Shane Lemieux has more athleticism and was not, you know, the glaring hole or glaring issue that was plaguing us for the 1st 567 weeks of the season.
Yeah, a quick shout out to Ray wrath.
We mentioned a couple times last episodes, doing work with him on SportsCastr.
He was, you know, through through his high school football playing career plate.
Since he was a little kid, he was an offensive lineman and one of those devil in the detail.
Things that he talked about is the idea of when you're into the guard position.
That, actually is that that is the most athletic position on the offensive line, both from a physical and a mental standpoint, because you are required to assess and adjust as quickly as possible question have imposed about Should Thomas get maybe shuffled inside to guard at some point along the way, and he very quickly shot.
He doesn't have the physical skill set for that.
It's not gonna make sense.
You'll actually get beat up even worse if you kick him inside.
1 of the things that we always said and someone else actually had the example was, basically, it looks like, you know, Will Hernandez looks like a tiny little box fridge of a man with little baby T Rex arms and and it just doesn't seem to compute.
And I again I don't want to write him off entirely.
We talked about this going back a ways.
When you initially brought up the need to look at Lamu, I think you can let Hernandez be there at the back up position behind Zettler.
You know, and see what that looks like, potentially going forward, and maybe he could grow himself back into a role but right now we're seeing diminished returns.
We're seeing a decline overall.
And the very basic bird's eye.
The eye test tells me Shane Lemieux needs to get more reps.
It looks like it was to the benefit of the offensive line overall and specifically to Thomas alongside him there at the left tackle position.
Okay, friends, last but not least least, but not lastly, it is, Of course, trade deadline.
Election Day Edition.
You've got Golden Tate.
And as we were just mentioning Kevin Zettler on the block, do you check off what would be the proverbial, I guess.
You know, question one question to on the ballot.
Don't label them as anything one way or the other.
Because I feel certain way about some things that I'd like to see you go through in this country and other things.
Who knows? So how do you stand on these two players? I feel like we get the inclination around Zettler.
We want to keep him probably and live with that sacrifice.
Let's talk about golden tape.
So you mentioned it with Hitler.
I think he brings too much veteran leadership and experience across this offensive line.
And as We kind of moved to this.
This youth across the entire line.
I think we do need a veteran leader.
So for me, I'm not very interested in moving him.
I would kind of leave that box unchecked.
When we talk about golden tape, though, I think to your point, I think it's I think it's time.
Listen, you know he the last couple weeks, he's had a couple of good touchdown passes and literally, that's all that we've seen from him.
And then you see him running over to the screenshot and get me the ball more.
As we mentioned before, he's he seems like he's being a little bit more of a me guy than the other guys on the team.
And guess what? He's an aging wide receiver that other teams covet.
Okay, like any kind of asset that we could get.
I think we talked about it a few times on what the Giants could get if the Giants could get 1/5 round pick for him.
I think at this point we probably would sign up for it.
We need to get more assets and he's one of those that we don't see a long term future for him, and he's not a building block for the future.
So let's get some assets now.
Yeah, and I don't wanna over overstated, but you're right that I thought it in the game when when he caught that touchdown pass and said, Get me the ball.
I just thought, Well, that doesn't really That doesn't seem to line up with what the Giants have been trying to instill into this young roster.
So if you can find a way to get some value, I'm all for it.
Likewise, with Zeitler, one of the other guys, We'll get out the door here on this.
Actually, it's just the tip of the cap.
There's a couple of things that I think are worth noting here across this roster, specifically coming out of that game last night, Uh, that I wanna make sure we highlight because for me, there's one name in here that we had highlighted as being a potential trade candidate, and I very quickly backed off of that idea.
And that's going to be there's.
There's four players here angry, um, Goldman Peppers and Sheppard.
These air. Now these some of these are just tip of the cap.
So, for example, by the way, in case you're broadcasting an NFL game, you're talking about the New York football giants.
It's Sterling Shepard.
It's not Russel Shepard.
Those are two different players there, About a decade apart in age from one of them isn't on the roster anymore.
Feel free to take that advice and do whatever you want with it.
I kept looking at the number being like, Do they activate some? Did they activate Russel Shepard from, like two years ago? And And he kept and he said it like three or four times and also, you know, side note, said New England Patriots about 27 times, as opposed to Tampa Bay Bucks.
I guess it's tough for everybody to get used to Tom Brady being in a different uniforms.
It, incidentally, because I do actually enjoy the Monday night crew, and I like what they're doing.
How is it possible that when I'm listening to them talking, I have a hard time like Brian Greasy and Luis Rid**** voices? They merge where there's a point where I'm like, Is Louis really gonna tell me anything is gonna talk it all in this game or vice versa.
It took me a couple of weeks to realize like I was like, Oh my God, there's two different.
There's three people in there, Uh, and final side note.
Before we get back to this, I mean, could they spend? I wish they would just spend a little bit more time talking about Antonio Brown.
Like, I think they only talked about him for maybe 2.
5, 3 hours of of the 3.
5 hours of the show.
Ah, guy that's not even active on the roster, not even playing in the game while the Giants are making great defensive plays there like, but he's staying a Tom Brady's house.
You're like, Oh, please.
And what's the game in which, by the way, as we talk about Peppers in particular, it was on a great play by him where he broke down, got around a wide receiver trying to get a block and got down.
I believe it was Leonard Fournette on that play was a great tackle that was mentioned as and a nice tackled by peppers.
When you think about Antonio Brown getting in on this roster, I was like, Come on like stay engaged to your guys like Give me the Giants fan base has so little hang their hat on this year.
The least you could do is acknowledge when a player makes really a phenomenal play and take the extra beat to talk about it.
So in that vein, I really liked what I saw from Peppers.
The thing that kind of clicked in my head was health.
Obviously, we know that's a concern with him in the long term, but in the short term, I look at it, I really start to think.
Boy, I wonder if you know the little nagging injuries that he's had this year caused him to miss some time.
But he wanted to be out there even when he had been hurt, and they had to pull him off the field to kind of protect himself from himself.
He looked really strong defensively in this game, so I start to think about him in.
Maybe they do try to get him back on on another contract when this one runs out.
Maybe he could still be a part of this fold.
He seems to be buying into the process.
Ah, guy like Wayne Goldman 12 carries for 44 yards.
Again, I think he's running powerful e.
I don't know if he has a spot on this roster next year or not, but I think he's doing a good service for himself to give himself an opportunity, get onto another roster somewhere else.
I always like to see that.
Like what I saw from him is, Well, yeah, When I look at Wayne Goldman, I mean some, some people are saying, Well, can you treat him? Can you get assets for him? Like, uh, what are we getting for Wayne Goldman like, Are we gonna get 1/7 round pick for him? At this point, I'd rather have him on the roster as insurance for, you know, ST John Barclay.
He's shown that he knows the offense.
He's like he was getting some hard yards yesterday.
You know Evan Ingram for for us, Much as he gets bashed, he played well yesterday.
He was making athletic plays, catching balls, trying to die for first downs like he was all over the field.
So, you know, like you said, a little tip of the cap to Evan Ingram.
I think that was might have been his best game of the year in terms of just being present, being in the moment, understanding yardage and where to catch the ball and how to turn like I don't know.
I know that you're not always the biggest fan of Evan Ingram, but how did you feel about his performance yesterday? I would still be.
So we talk about, you know, rising and falling.
I'm taking peppers off the trading bloc, but I would still leaving room out there, potentially depending on what the offer comes through.
But to your point, he's on this roster when they work the end around.
I think they did a really nice job with Kate and Smith, getting him out in front of him and helping with the blocking on run blocking plays.
It looked like they were trying to again.
Okay, John Smith is not known as a pass blocker, a run blocker.
First he was getting out in front and engaging initially, and then Evan Ingram's job was to try to clean up that second guy and give the extra bitter room for Goldman and for Alfred Morris.
No, this was a good game, for him.
He had what was very similar to that fingertip kind of catch.
This time down, the right sideline, as opposed to the left, made a big play there.
Five catches for 61 yards.
I like what I saw from him.
You know, if you could get this consistency out of him down the remainder of the season, it does two things.
It either increases his confidence and increases what his value is.
Staying with the Giants and or increases the value could get with him in the off season, which is what I had highlighted last episode around.
Hey, hold on to him, build it up and then worry about this type of stuff in the off season or or on draft day, potentially seeing a suitor come calling.
The final piece for me, of course, is Sterling Shepard now second game back.
Coming off, that injury was dealing with turf toe still got out there.
It catches 74 yards, nearly a 10 yard per clip average on 10 targets.
This is big for me again.
You know, I like Darius Layton and what he represents, he's still a young receiver.
When shepherds on the field and Shepherd is healthy.
You are seeing the impact.
He is far and away our best receiver in our core.
He has the ability to get his create his own separation.
He has the ability to be ah, consistent safety valve for Daniel Jones.
I love what I'm seeing from him.
We know the health concerns air there, but I I'm just so happy to see him on the field that there's really nothing else to it.
I'm just happy to see Sterling Shepard on the field.
Hopefully, he is injury free the rest of the season and we just get to get real value and get to see what is an exciting, dynamic young player for us.
I I have always loved Sterling Shepard.
As we said before at the top of the show, this was almost the best case scenario for the Giants were not disillusioned.
To think that we're going to go out and win the division and make crazy short term decisions at the trade deadline losing competitively two teams like Tampa or even Chicago or the Rams who are pretty good teams, there's nothing wrong with that.
It's exciting to see some of our young players continue to develop.
It makes us want to see more of them in the last eight weeks.
And we're gonna go into what the You know, the 2nd 2nd half of the season should look like for the Giants in our next show.
But right now, overall, people are gonna be crushing Daniel Jones this morning.
I'm excited that the team was competitive.
And, you know, the last thing I will say is I do think this also shows that Joe Judge is the guy for the Giants.
People are rallying around him and they believe what he is saying and that it's so hard in the NFL to get rich athletes to be able to buy into whatever it is that you're saying about team first.
Yeah, I think the results are not only obviously game day, but also just in practice.
I think thinking film room.
I think that the players are seeing what Joe judges about what he brings to the table and why it's worth starting to put these as we keep we said a few times today, building blocks in place to help this franchise get back on track.
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