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00:00:00
two guys.
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First things first.
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It's Joe knew both.
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Thank you all so much for coming out today.
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And, yes, for those wondering, I am feeling a lot better.
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I am not as angry as I was after yesterday's loss.
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Uh, make sure the levels air correct? No, obviously, I'm still not feeling too great about it.
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It sucks, but it's It's the day after, you know, it's It's about that time that we get over it and my sign is all crooked, Bro.
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Hold on a second.
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That's a little better.
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All right, so, guys, the plan for this stream is We're doing Ravens therapy.
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Welcome to the first episode of Ravens therapy for the end of Podcast live.
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We're trying something out here, basically after every loss every Monday after every loss, we're going to start doing some therapy sessions, man, because I know that a lot of Ravens fans are like me that there's a lot of things that we got to talk out a lot of a lot of problems that we're dealing with now, especially with all this news coming out.
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You know, there's the Hollywood Brown tweet that popped out yesterday that came out yesterday after the game, there's Marlon Humphrey testing positive for co vid.
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There is, of course, there's just so much stuff going on, then there's yesterday's game that we have to deal with.
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Oh, there's Ronnie Stanley being done for the season.
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I mean, my goodness, there is just so much to talk about, and I am going to be bringing in some guy's very soon.
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But I did want to kind of give my opinion on yesterday's game before we bring on some of these guys that we've got coming on real quick.
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So real quick, fellas, let me just break it down for you.
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My notes.
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I re watched the game about a Knauer ago just to kinda refresh myself and get some of my thoughts out of the way because there was something that I said, Uh, I was really laying hard until Lamar Jackson dude yesterday I was ****ed off at Lamar, and I still think that it's warranted.
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I still do think I believe that he deserves most of the blame for losing this game because, quite simply, he gifted the Steelers 14 points, two touchdowns.
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You just can't do that with turnovers and all that type of stuff.
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It's it's just not it's not gonna be a good game when you end up doing that.
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So I still do believe that Lamar deserves most of the blame for this loss.
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But I was kind of re watching it, and I think that I was kind of underselling.
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The blame that Greg Roman deserves for this game is well, because there was some bad drives, man, there was some bad play calling.
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So yeah, I'm still going to say that.
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I believe Lamar deserves most of the blame, but I also believe that Greg Roman deserves a good chunk as well.
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So I went through the game again and I mentioned yesterday that I believe that we actually we actually dominated the Steelers, in my opinion, just like from a pure game perspective, like I know on the scoreboard, it doesn't look like we did it look like a close game throughout and the Steelers ended up winning at the end there.
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But it's to me.
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It wasn't like that to me.
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It was we were the better team and we were dominating them for most of the game and we should have won that game.
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That's just how I feel about it.
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I went through it and it had the potential to be like a 32 14 game in our favor.
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That's what it seemed like to me.
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You know, Um, there were some points left on the board.
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We got some good field position at some points, and we just weren't able to take advantage.
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So I got you know, the first.
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I just kinda gonna want to go through a couple drives here or a few drives that happened in the game yesterday.
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So the very first drive, as we know, ended on a pick six for Lamar Jackson again.
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Can't make that throw.
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That is just terrible.
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Bad read totally on Lamar.
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You can't defend that throw again.
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Giving the Steelers the points there.
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We would have won if that didn't happen.
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Right. So there's that.
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Then they came back, They answered back Pretty good.
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Touchdown drive.
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I did feel we got a little bit bailed out by that Hayward call with that late hit.
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But, you know Hey, what are you gonna do? It's football.
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And the Steelers got some pretty bad calls us well for them.
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So they got bailed out later on in the game, so but it happens.
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A beautiful throat, a beautiful touch down through the Miles Boykin in the end zone.
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What are you gonna do about that? And then the subsequent drives.
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There was the fumble that we caused on Chase Claypool.
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Right? Marcus Peters punched the ball out of Chase Claypool's hands, and that's what you have to score.
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You have to score a touchdown after that fumble and what do we do? We get down all the way to second and goal, and then Lamar fumbles the ball.
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That was another.
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That's Lamar's fault right there.
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In my opinion, he should have seen that Bud Dupree was coming off the edge.
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He was screaming off the edge.
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He saw him out of the corner of the eye, and rather than getting rid of the ball, he just, uh you know, he kept the ball back there and and and then I got stripped out of his hands.
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So another at least three points taken off the board, and you could have argued that should have been a touchdown drive right? So we should have scored after that fumble recovery and instead We gave the ball right back to the Steelers, then the Steelers.
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And by the way, the Steelers didn't do anything, man, they didn't even get past that.
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I think they only got past the 50 yard line once in the entire first half.
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That's it.
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So our defense dominated them mostly.
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They only allowed 14 legitimate points.
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In my opinion, Um, so there was that that fumble.
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And then we ended up stopping the Steelers on their offensive drive after they recovered Lamar Jackson's fumble and they punted the ball and it was a bad pun.
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We got good field position again, and we just didn't capitalize on that.
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We didn't score any points.
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We didn't get into field goal territory that point.
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It should have been at halftime like 23 to 7.
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Just we lost out on at least six points that we could have had there, so it should have been 23 to 7.
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Even if you're counting the pick six, if you take off the pick six, it should have been 23 to.
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I'm just saying, but obviously it didn't end up turning out that way.
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It was 17 to 7 and then they come out in the second half and again guys were bringing, bringing on guest for this podcast.
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But I just want to get my whole my whole spiel out of the way first before I bring on more people here.
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So so 17 7 at the half.
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You know, in my there was some opportunities for us to at least put up 23 points.
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So it should have been like 23 to 7 23 to.
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If you take out the pick six and then coming out of the half, the Steelers get the ball and they do nothing.
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I believe they go like three and out.
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Or maybe they convert one third down or one get one first down and we come out and call a passing play.
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And this is where you do put the blame on Greg Roman bad play call.
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But also, when Lamar has these types of play calls, he needs to make better decisions.
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You don't try to force it over a linebackers head.
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I watched that play and he had Nick Boyle coming off through the middle and there was also Patrick Card that he could have just dumped it off.
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Instead, Lamar took the more dangerous throw, which ended up in an interception, and that gave him seven more points.
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So again, that shouldn't have happened.
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That put them up to 14.
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And it was because of Lamar's UH, two interceptions there.
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So there was that.
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And then the Steelers put forth their their best scoring drive all day.
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In my opinion, they only had, like, one legitimate, really good offensive drive, in my opinion, and that was there to put them up, 21 to 17.
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It was good throws to chase.
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Claypool Juju had some good place in there, so that was like their Onley, in my opinion, legitimate good offensive drive for the Steelers there.
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But again, we could have had at least 23 points on the board, but we didn't and then being 21 to 17 and then we come back, we end up scoring.
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We get up to 24.
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At that point, it could have been up to 30 with some of the missed opportunities, but instead it's 24 to 21 with Steelers still in the game, and then they come back with their final scoring drive the Steelers do, and in my opinion, the refs kind of helped him out a little bit.
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You gotta admit, I'm not trying to make excuses, but there were some very soft P.
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I calls at the end there to really keep their drive going right.
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And then they go up 28 24.
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So there's that.
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And then we all saw the final two drives where we had 1/4 and three.
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We call the quarterback draw on five wide.
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We probably That was definitely a bad call.
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That goes on, Greg, Roman.
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So just so many different things, man.
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But anyway, so we ended up losing, you know? So that's what I wanted to get out, man.
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And why don't we bring on some of our guests to kind of give their opinions on not only yesterday's game, but also some of the other things that are going on around here? You know, Hollywood Brown, his his stuff he got going on Marlon Humphrey all obviously being out because of co vid and Ronnie Stanley now out for the season.
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So why don't we bring him on? We got my guy keeping it, Riel.
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What's up, bro? deaf.
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And we got Adam armed bricks.
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Hold on a second, fellas.
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A real quick.
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I let me fix some things.
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Okay? You guys introduce yourself.
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Why don't we start off with my guy keeping it? Riel? What's going on, everybody? I'm a k excited to be here, Joe.
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Man, I've been wanting to come on the show for quite some time.
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Love what you do.
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What's going on? Everybody, uh, wall kinda still feeling the loss of that game.
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So I need this therapy session.
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Yeah, That's why we're all here for men.
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That's what we're all here for.
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Except for Adam.
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He's He's a Giants fan.
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He doesn't really carry.
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I just brought him in to get an outsider's fan's perspective on how Hey, it could be worse.
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Right? So, Adam let them know where you're coming from men and where they can find you.
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That wasn't terribly nice, Joe.
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I come in to help you out, and then you also extended my eyes.
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Yeah.
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Listen, contributor obviously on SportsCastr news with both NFL on MBA, you can find me on their using the search out of more, but just like my name, I'm here to alleviate you you guys.
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I think I hope so anyway, because I actually I'm a fan of Lamar Jackson, fan of the Ravens overall.
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So, yes, you guys should feel a lot better.
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It could be a lot worse.
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You could be the New York Giants.
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You could be me right now.
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So everybody take a deep breath.
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We're gonna be fine friends.
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Fair enough.
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And sudden death.
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What's up, bro? It was good.
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Ravens family was good.
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Joe was good keeping it.
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Riel was good.
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Adam, I haven't Haven't I don't think I've done Ah, livestream with Adam or keeping it real yet.
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So this is new.
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Um, Joe, I appreciate you for having me and us on again.
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I'm happy to be here, Happy to talk some Ravens, and this is gonna be a very, very, very good therapy session.
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I think for all of us here except for Adam, because he's a giant strain his team place today, but yeah.
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All right, man.
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So I don't know if you guys heard my whole little spiel about how I felt that, in my opinion, we dominated this game, but obviously just didn't end up being that way on the scoreboard.
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numbers tell you differently.
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But, I mean, we ran for what? Over 200 yards.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think the defense played, Ah, hell of a game.
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So just if if, if one or two things go differently men, if we score on one of those if we score on that fumble recovery, Uh, if we score when they they had a bad punt, if we take advantage of those, we definitely would have won this game.
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But I still put most of the blame on Lamar Jackson.
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I want to hear what you guys have to say about that.
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The reason I put it on Lamar is because he basically gifted the Steelers two touchdowns.
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So whoever wants to start first man who gets the most blame for this loss? Oh, man, you know, I I was talking to some some of my buddies yesterday after the game, and they were saying, Oh, how do you feel about Lamar? How do you feel about the Ravens? And I was telling him I was like, I put 80% of this blame, like for this game on Lamar Jackson.
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I put 20% of the coaches on I say 80% of Lamar because he had What was it? Four turnovers, right? Yep, four turnovers.
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And a lot of those turnovers came in very, very key moments.
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Like when we were.
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I think I believe was what Second quarter, when he came down and we fumbled like late in the red zone.
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He did that thing where, like he stands in the park and he's like, I don't know if I want to throw yet You get stripped and that's happened a lot before and it happened a lot in his rookie season.
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Now, last season.
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He got a lot better with that.
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And I think Harbaugh said it best like when he was saw.
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That said Lamar last season.
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He was like, Look, we love you because like, you don't hesitate, You just attack.
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I feel like this season he's doing a lot more hesitation in his game than he did last year, so that's a big problem for me.
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But I do put 20% of the blame on the coaching.
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Um I e Greg Roman because Greg Roman, he just when we needed him the most, he always folds on this and I was telling Alex this earlier simply as 10 because we've got some big stuff coming to me and him.
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But I was on him earlier that basically, we make we make adjustments when we don't need Thio.
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But when we do need to make adjustments, we don't, you know, and that's that's that's what kills me.
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So I put 80% of blame on Lamar.
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I put 20% on the coaching.
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I'll get more into a little bit later.
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But I want to hear these guys opinions, too, for sure, keeping it really go for it, man.
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Yeah, I would have to put most of this blame on Lamar Jackson.
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The four turnovers were the difference in this game.
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Like you, said Joe, when you look at the stats we dominated in this game are defense giving up 14 points and we rushing for over 200 yards in most games that so w we're getting 30 points out of that.
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But the turnovers, the pick six to start off the first drive, that one was definitely a tough one.
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We know when we start off down, we kind of change our approach and that's something we gotta move out off and the fumble at the goal line.
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I feel like that was the most crucial one because they often started to get something going there and you got down to the goal line.
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And for Lamar, it's a fumble that one hurt.
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And like Sutton said this season, he's just been hesitating.
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I don't know what is going on with Lamar, but when it comes to the pressure, he's hesitating a lot and he's not willing to take what the defense is giving him instead of taking off for just throwing it out there, just even trying to attack and step up in the pocket.
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For the most part, he's hesitating.
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He's pump faking and he's kind of going back to what he was doing in his rookie year.
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So the turnovers were definitely the difference.
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I do give a good amount of blame on Greg Roman for the play calling because I didn't exactly agree with starting off the third quarter that first drive passing because you know what, 17 to 7.
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This would be a good time to just run the football.
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We're actually having some level off progress on the Steelers defense with running the football, which is something most of us didn't exactly expect, considering that the Steelers run defense is like top five.
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But for us to actually get that level of production progression and production from our running backs, I kind of expected third quarter.
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We're just gonna run the ball, play to our game, and that's how it's gonna work.
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Instead, we come out throwing the ball, and I didn't agree with that play calling.
00:15:03
But Lamar Jackson's past right there, that one's more on him than Greg Roman.
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I don't agree with the call, but the past.
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I can't put down Greg.
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Roman.
00:15:12
Lamar should have seen that defender there, and there was also a check down with Patrick card that he could have taken.
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It was in his vision.
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Instead, he chose to force it to Andrews, which is by now defense have kind of gotten used to who he's throwing, too.
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So for the most part, I got to give the blame to Lamar.
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But the play calling needs to improve absolutely, absolutely on point man.
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Definitely great, great, great, great stuff there.
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So, Adam, let's hear from an outsider's perspective, what did you think about this game man? Do you agree with us that you know the way it looks.
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The Ravens absolutely dominated.
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Or is it just us being, you know, putting our purple glasses on drinking some of that purple Kool Aid? What do you think in here, Adam? Well, listen, just from a quick a guy in need of therapy session is I had what I thought was the inside track on stashing J.
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K.
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Dobbins in fantasy football leagues.
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Knowing I liked him, knew it was gonna be a thing.
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And then eventually I got to the place where I was like, Listen, if they're not gonna play them, I just gotta let him go.
00:16:07
And of course, he goes out 114 yards there and, you know, it really makes me.
00:16:11
I feel a little bit chagrin about a league that's going sideways on me.
00:16:13
Listen, keeping it riel, you mentioned about that idea of play calling versus execution and decision making.
00:16:19
That's something that in year two for Daniel Jones and the Giants, that's a lot of that talk around Jason Garrett.
00:16:24
Oh, I don't love that play call.
00:16:25
Okay? You cannot love the play call, But then, even inside of a quote bad play.
00:16:30
It still comes down to decision making, and Lamar Lamar Jackson may be regressing a little bit from a high level here.
00:16:37
He offers up a pick six right out the gate.
00:16:39
So you're talking about in a game that you lost by four points, man.
00:16:42
Just take off that one Early mist Ake.
00:16:45
He could still have three turnovers and you could still have won this game, right? You still wouldn't up 24 21 putting pressure on the side of Pittsburgh Steelers and Big Ben to be able to get something done there on their own.
00:16:55
Thea other thing for me is and I think this is really just big picture on Lamar Jackson.
00:17:01
Go back to his draft year.
00:17:03
Everybody passed on him, right? Nobody thought that he was going to be a franchise level quarterback.
00:17:08
Good on the Ravens, you guys make the smart choice by snagging him really is a steal.
00:17:13
It turns out when you wanna quickly just looked back over his stats here.
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When you talk about these last couple of years, the things that jump out at me or one this season in particular was still one game to go before the official midway point.
00:17:24
His rushing attempts are going to be down this year.
00:17:27
Relative to the first two seasons, you are talking about his completion percentage being down, but 58 66 now, 60 this season.
00:17:34
So my my curiosity is coming into this year to the coaching staff say, Hey, we're going to continue to refine.
00:17:40
You continue to get you inside that pocket.
00:17:42
Let's start to get some of that pocket presence that we want from you.
00:17:45
So you are a bounce quarterback because you can't live going down, coughing up fumbles, diving in between the big bodies in a weekend week out basis.
00:17:53
And you're just seeing that you're seeing a new set of growing pains like unlike when you talk about, ah, Year three quarterback and saying, You've got to be checking these boxes.
00:18:01
You can't be Carson Wentz ing it right now in his fourth year, right? That's real concern.
00:18:06
I think the learning curve for Lamar has to be a little bit longer than you traditionally would give with his starting point.
00:18:14
He started out as a guy that said he's not very accurate, he's not a great passer.
00:18:17
We're gonna use his legs.
00:18:18
So you know longevity for him and taking that big picture approach is probably good.
00:18:22
And, yes, I do think that collectively, the Ravens fan base could probably take a big sigh of relief and say, You guys were right in the mix.
00:18:30
You went up against a very experienced coaching staff, a very experienced veteran quarterback.
00:18:37
So have four turnovers from Lamar Jackson and still have lost this game by four points.
00:18:41
Man play that same game nine times out of 10.
00:18:45
Lamar's not coughing up four turnovers.
00:18:46
You guys air.
00:18:47
Probably winning, not out of those 10 games with the production you got in the run game.
00:18:50
Not even having Ingram there for you as well.
00:18:53
Yeah, and I would argue, we've been kind of saying that.
00:18:57
I think we should have kind of phased out Mark Ingram from the running game from the beginning because it's it's been clear that both Gust Edwards and J.
00:19:04
K.
00:19:05
Dobbins are the best running backs on this team, right? So I'm glad that we finally got to see that.
00:19:10
If I ask you is is that the compliment that you got? That's what you want right, Because the dynamic of J.
00:19:15
K.
00:19:16
Dobbins and Gus Edwards is a better compliment to the offense than sometimes the one dimensional will say of Ingram.
00:19:22
I would be, 012 punch.
00:19:24
Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:25
And Ingram was great last season, you know, and I love the guy, you know.
00:19:30
He brought us big trust and all that, and it's going to go down in history, right with Mark Ingram did for the team.
00:19:35
But it's clear to me at least, that he's not the best running back for the team right now.
00:19:40
It's the 12 punch of Gus Edwards and J.
00:19:43
K.
00:19:45
Dobbins, Um, but one thing I want that I was thinking about earlier about Lamar.
00:19:48
I feel like he went into this year with the same mindset as he did last season, which is I gotta prove everybody wrong, right? But I think what he's doing now is in trying to proving prove everyone wrong.
00:20:01
He's actually proving them right because he's hesitating.
00:20:05
He's not making the right reads.
00:20:07
He's just, uh it's, I mean, it's a It's a bunch of bunch of factors.
00:20:11
Of course, the offensive line.
00:20:13
We lost Marshal Yanda to retirement.
00:20:15
Now we lost Ronnie Stanley, which sucks even Mawr, so it hurts.
00:20:20
It hurts a lot for Lamar's development, no doubt, but what do you guys think, man, Whoever wants to jump in, Do you think that we're seeing a Lamar actually regress? Or do you think he just has to relax? You know, take it easy, clear his mind and just play his game.
00:20:36
I think it's more of like he just needs to calm down.
00:20:39
I think he's He's kind of buying into all the critics right now, for the most part, just like putting the pressure on himself.
00:20:46
I gotta perform in these big games.
00:20:47
I gotta perform in these big games.
00:20:49
I I like to bring up two games. For the most part.
00:20:52
You look at this vote, the Steelers game and the Chiefs game, and then you look at like that Monday Night Football game against the Rams and you see, like in both those games, he was dealing with pressure and Lamar actually handled those situations in two different ways.
00:21:06
With the Rams.
00:21:07
He was calm, cool, calm, cool and collected for the most part, and he just took what the defense gave him.
00:21:13
One of the best place he had in that Rams game was they were sending in all blitz just before halftime, and he just threw a bullet in the end zone to Willie Snead for his third touchdown.
00:21:23
He was so calm, cool, collected.
00:21:24
He saw the blitz coming, read the right read and got it to sneak with no problem this season.
00:21:30
For some reason, he's either not reading the blitzes right, or he's just not handling the pressure.
00:21:35
Or he's just getting a little bit too jittery and thinking, I gotta make a play.
00:21:39
I gotta make a play.
00:21:40
I got to make a play and I feel for the most part, he needs to calm down.
00:21:43
Just take a breather.
00:21:44
And it also goes more towards us being down, because one thing the fans are starting to notice more and more is that when we're losing the game, Lamar Jackson on the sideline pounding and we're all seeing that on the camera is just on the sideline pounding.
00:21:58
He's angry.
00:21:59
He's kind of aloof to himself.
00:22:00
You're not seeing him talk with anyone else, and that's kind of a problem, because he's at that point when you're sitting by yourself pouting.
00:22:07
You're getting in your head and you start to think about like I gotta do this.
00:22:10
I got to do that.
00:22:11
I gotta perform.
00:22:12
Why am I doing this? I gotta just I gotta take a step back.
00:22:15
He needs to take it a step back.
00:22:17
Calm down.
00:22:18
Mistakes happen.
00:22:19
You're not gonna go out there and be perfect.
00:22:21
Turnovers will happen.
00:22:22
In fact, in this game, I expected one or two turnovers toe happen from this offense specifically because you're going up against, ah defense like Pittsburgh.
00:22:31
They're going to take the ball away.
00:22:33
And with the way our offensive line is, I expected the fumble toe happen.
00:22:36
Because these guys, their front seven is arguably the best front seven football.
00:22:40
So I expected them to get to a Lamar Ah, lot in this game and I expect turnover happen.
00:22:46
Lamar needs to calm down for the most part.
00:22:49
Take a breather and understand.
00:22:50
You're not gonna be winning in every game.
00:22:53
Go back, check the mistake.
00:22:55
Try to talk to your receivers.
00:22:57
Try to get on the same page.
00:22:58
If you thought pick, go over the play with you.
00:23:01
Receive.
00:23:02
Receive what he could have done.
00:23:03
See what you could have done.
00:23:04
Just take it slow and try to calm down.
00:23:05
He's got to get out of his own head right now because he's buying too much into the critics and it's starting to hurt this play.
00:23:12
Yeah, absolutely sudden.
00:23:14
Anything to say, anything to add? Well, man, I mean, I agree with everything that my man keeping it real just said, Honestly, it's just that for me, Yes, we can put a lot of blame on Lamar and I do think that he has regressed in a couple of different ways this season.
00:23:29
But I also think that with execution, you know there's no execution without a game plan, right? So with coaching and things like that, I feel like we're not actually putting him in the best positions to win the football game.
00:23:42
You know, our coaches, our coaching staff has to realize that we do have a young quarterback.
00:23:46
The man's 23 years old, you know, and I'm only I'm only 24 right so that I can kind of relate toe how he might be feeling like jitters wise just in terms of pure age, right? So I think that, like coaching staff, we need to realize that this man, he does need to calm down.
00:24:03
He does need to slow down, but do not put him in a situation where, at halftime after halftime, he's throwing the ball on 1st and 10 and especially not an out route six or seven yards to, like Mark Andrews and double coverage that does not make any type of sense at all.
00:24:16
We're up to scores, right? We're up 10 points.
00:24:19
Why are we throwing the ball on first down? First of all, let me back up a little bit.
00:24:22
We rushed for over 100 yards in the first half against the Steelers, the Steelers team that was only giving up on average 68 yards in the entire game against other teams.
00:24:34
So I mean, I just don't understand where we're coming from.
00:24:36
I don't know if Greg Roman was trying to stay two steps ahead, but for one step ahead.
00:24:40
But sometimes when you when you try to get like one step ahead, you can find yourself two steps back.
00:24:44
You know, I feel like that's what happened to us yesterday, so I think that like Lamar definitely is regressing in certain ways.
00:24:51
I feel like we'll be fine because, you know, as the season goes on and the chemistry gets better with, you know, our team, I feel like Willie Snead was very promising yesterday.
00:24:59
We saw a lot of dog, a lot of fight in him that was very promising.
00:25:03
Um, a couple other key pieces like, You know, I guess that Gus Edwards, J.
00:25:08
K. Dobbins, J. K.
00:25:09
Dobbins rushed for over 100 yards and Gus Edwards rushed for 86 yards and a touchdown.
00:25:13
You know, if they cannot stop the run, why stop running? You know what I mean? Like, it's just like Lamar Jackson.
00:25:20
Yet Like I said, he's regressing.
00:25:21
But the coaching stop it definitely deserves a lot of the blame to, So yeah, no, and I completely agree, man.
00:25:28
Something that I'm noticing in the chat is that and this is something that seems to be going on really through all the Ravens fan base man.
00:25:35
And I just don't get it because you're not allowed to criticize Lamar Jackson whatsoever.
00:25:40
Because if you do, you're a fake Ravens fan, right? I don't know if you guys were noticing that I do.
00:25:46
It's okay to criticize the quarterback.
00:25:48
What? He has a bad game like this.
00:25:49
All right, Just because I'm criticizing him doesn't mean that I'm, you know, trashing my own team.
00:25:55
Of course I love the team.
00:25:56
I'm always gonna love the team.
00:25:57
And I still believe in Lamar.
00:25:59
But if he has a bad game, I'm gonna call him out on it.
00:26:01
And I still think that he lost this this game.
00:26:04
That's all I'm saying.
00:26:05
And I also find it funny that somebody said, Oh, really? Ravens fans remember Anquan Boldin, like Anquan Boldin is the name that you bring up to call a real Ravens fan of real Ravens fan like, Come on.
00:26:15
Remember Anquan Boldin as Arizona Cardinal, like just primarily.
00:26:19
I know we had a long time with the Baltimore Ravens, but also there's a lot of other names I might pull out there for.
00:26:23
I probably pull out Trent Dilfer first, if exact name.
00:26:25
It's funny that that's the name that they choose.
00:26:28
But anyway, that Zatz, that's enough of my my little right there because I will say, keeping it real.
00:26:34
You mentioned it about on the sidelines.
00:26:35
I think at one point I noticed in the game, too, and I'm sure they got into the plays as well and reviewed what went right or wrong.
00:26:41
But there was a point where it seemed like a coordinator of some capacity was over there trying to show him things, and Lamar Jackson was fairly dismissive, like he was kind of like like, I don't want to really get into that right now, and I'm sure they went back to when we get in the film room, etcetera.
00:26:52
But just, you know, Tom Brady is not the gold standard for how you're supposed to be on sidelines and his demeanor and everything, but usually the best quarterbacks, especially after bad. Please.
00:27:03
The first thing they want to do is get inside the play and figure out.
00:27:06
Was it may? Was it on the receiver? Did we miss communicate how doe I avoid that next time? And that's something again when Sutton says about you know, uh, I'm 35 but you're 100% right, because the first thing I always think about when you talk about athletes, you always talk about what the expectations are of them on the field and then I think about man, when I was 22 23 years old.
00:27:26
You better not be putting a whole bunch of cameras on me and setting expectations because I was going to come up short, way off anymore that I was gonna be successful in that regard.
00:27:34
One of the things that I will say I just noticed quickly was in looking at a couple of things that splits this year.
00:27:40
When you talk about Lamar Jackson home and away, it's interesting that they are at home having him throw.
00:27:47
He's throwing a lot more passes.
00:27:48
The yardages there.
00:27:49
The touchdown to interception ratio is 8 to 3, which is nice.
00:27:52
But on the road, Fourtou one touchdown to interception, eight yards per completion as opposed to 6.5.
00:27:59
I'm just wondering, and the rating, although it's not Q B R.
00:28:02
104 versus 88 it seems like maybe they're protecting him a little bit more in terms of coaching style, may be protecting him a little bit more on the road and then trying to unleash him a little bit more home.
00:28:12
Now that's not a bad strategy, but you do need to make sure that it's going hand in hand.
00:28:16
When you talk about gameplay and dictating tempo.
00:28:19
As good as the Ravens are, your strength still is.
00:28:22
The is the defense first and the balance of this dynamic explosive.
00:28:26
You don't know when we're gonna hit you with Lamar Jackson on offense.
00:28:29
So from the outside, looking in, that should always be the way your game script is built.
00:28:34
And when you mentioned about Sneed maybe being showing some promise there, I still do.
00:28:38
Go back to you guys went ahead and brought in Dez Bryant to the practice squad.
00:28:41
I can appreciate that.
00:28:42
Yeah, I hope it goes well for him.
00:28:43
Um, but I do wonder about I'm not saying Antonio, You know Antonio Brown was the answer because I wouldn't bring in that type of personality, that locker room.
00:28:51
But I look around the league and I talk about picking up the phone and talking to Atlanta about Julio Jones.
00:28:56
Like I think, Ah, failure, you could say, is that they have not brought in a true, legit, dynamic, reliable 100% number one stud like they just did for Kyler Murray.
00:29:07
With noon, right? I think that's still a shortcoming that you haven't given Lamar Jackson, which helps mitigate some of the mistakes that he's gonna have and ps Joe.
00:29:16
Yes, you need to be able to criticize your players when they make mistakes.
00:29:19
That's the nature of being supportive of the team because you want the best product out of them.
00:29:22
And, yeah, you have four turnovers.
00:29:24
You better be getting ripped a little bit because you could Onley make excuses for so many mistakes.
00:29:29
Exactly.
00:29:30
Um, all right, why don't we? We've been talking a lot about weapons, and you know what Lamar has surrounding him.
00:29:36
And yes, we know it's not great.
00:29:37
And yes, we understand.
00:29:38
But my biggest thing is that I think that more so does go on Greg Roman, in my opinion, because what we've seen from Greg Roman is when he designs running plays.
00:29:48
Oh, they're phenomenal right there. They're amazing.
00:29:50
We had the best rushing attack in NFL history last year, right? That's that's not by mistake.
00:29:55
Greg Roman is a great designer of plays for the runs, but his passing plays his routes that he designs.
00:30:02
They're just not creative at all.
00:30:04
So what can we do with that man and obviously we saw with the whole Hollywood Brown tweet that came out that now has since been deleted, which is the main topic that we're talking about today.
00:30:14
Um, he said, What's the point of having soldiers on your team, right or something like that if you're not gonna use them? Basically, he said that and a lot of people were saying, Oh, it's a dig at Lamar.
00:30:26
You know, the national media, that's what they're going to say. It's Lamar.
00:30:29
He can't throw the ball.
00:30:30
That's the reason why he's saying that.
00:30:32
But I think it's more so a dig and maybe Greg Roman's play design and his routes.
00:30:37
I don't know.
00:30:38
What do you guys think about that man? Whoever wants to start, I'll go real brief.
00:30:42
So because you guys are gonna know way more about this, I'll that's often listen, the personnel you have, how do you maximize their value That goes to using Lamar Jackson and using his legs because you know he could be dynamic that way, leaning heavily on a dynamic, multi head and running game.
00:30:56
But okay, if you have a bunch of second tier kind of wide receivers How do you scheme them Open.
00:31:01
How do you get it in their hands and let them make those runs after the catch? The play, you know, yards after catch, right.
00:31:06
That's what I think.
00:31:07
I would like to see Baltimore Doom.
00:31:09
Or of I don't.
00:31:10
You guys will tell me if that adds up.
00:31:12
Yeah, that definitely adds up, man.
00:31:15
Absolutely.
00:31:17
I don't know.
00:31:18
I mean, I was just gonna say that That totally adds up.
00:31:20
You have Thio really know how to maximize what your personnel can do.
00:31:24
And I was actually I was watching the game yesterday and I was talking to my friend Nate about it, and I was telling him I was like, I think it's like midway through the third quarter and like we had not heard Hollywood, Brown's name called at all up into that point and I was saying like, Why are we not scheming up plays to get Hollywood open? He's probably like, he's like our number one weapon in our receiving core.
00:31:43
Besides, you know, Mark Andrews, you know, guys like that.
00:31:46
So I'm like, you know, I'm thinking like, why are we getting him open? And then he finally gets the ball in like one play.
00:31:50
And then after the game, I hear about his tweet and everything like that and how he deleted it.
00:31:54
Now, do I think that, like that was kind of harmful? Yes, in a way I do, because you never want to go out on social media out in public and say, What's the point? You know, and go against your your team, your family? You know you don't you don't ever want to do that, have any sort of like objections.
00:32:10
But after the game, you know, emotions were running still, like really high at that point.
00:32:15
And I know Hollywood is probably what probably around the same age is Lamar.
00:32:18
So there's still some sort of that, you know, that in maturity in there were like, he's gonna put out a tweet like that's because that's how he was feeling at the time.
00:32:24
And then, of course, he went ahead and deleted it afterwards, but he was 100% right.
00:32:28
There was no lie told there at all.
00:32:30
You know, he's like I said, he's one of our best weapons, one of our better weapons, at least, um, and we don't use them nearly as much as we should.
00:32:36
Same thing goes with Devin Duvernay, right? We didn't hear his name called, you know, Of course, he dropped the first pass of the game, which I felt it was a little bit high, Um, from my Lamar Jackson.
00:32:45
But you know that big play down the field.
00:32:47
One more thing to I don't know if it was just me, but seeing Lamar throw a deep to Duvernay yesterday, that was the first time I saw Lamar through a deep since, Like what Week? One or two? Yeah, it was.
00:32:59
It was.
00:33:00
It's been a while, so it's like when we don't keep defense is honest and we play.
00:33:04
It's such a discipline Steelers defense.
00:33:06
Our normal game plan is just not gonna work.
00:33:08
We have to.
00:33:09
We have to find different ways.
00:33:10
We have to be creative in our offensive schemes, like we can't just keep throwing the same thing out of guys expecting it to keep working like one thing I did like about the offense yesterday were running that play where you know we would.
00:33:20
Lamar would take it kind of like it was like a Q B power type play.
00:33:24
He was like kinda Russian and then pitch it out to J. K. Dobbins.
00:33:27
We did that like two or three times and worked really, really well.
00:33:29
I thought that was a really good adjustment, but at the same time was I don't want to say I was like, too little, too late, But there's just a lot going on there.
00:33:38
Like Adams said, All in all, you have to find a way to maximize your person.
00:33:43
No, we do not do that a zoo, much as we should, and we need to get better with that.
00:33:47
If we wanna, you know, find any sort of success for the rest of the season and going into the postseason.
00:33:52
Mhm, Yeah, I definitely do with both takes here.
00:33:55
For the most part, it really comes down to part of that has to deal with Hollywood.
00:34:01
Brown's tweet about him not getting looks.
00:34:04
I understand how he feels.
00:34:06
Maybe you don't wanna go exactly social media to express that, but again, the guys young, he's gonna do something like that.
00:34:12
It's fine, but he wasn't wrong with what he said.
00:34:15
They're not really scheming well for the receivers and this comes down the Greg Roman.
00:34:20
His play calling is not creative when it comes to the run game, he's probably the best offensive coordinator at creating creative run schemes.
00:34:29
But with the past game, it's the same thing.
00:34:31
For the most part, it's not creative, and it's not scheming to get any receiver open or to put the ball in their hands.
00:34:38
And it comes down to the most thing that this offenses missing.
00:34:41
Where is the quick pass game? Where are the short passing games? We have speeded receivers in Duvernay and Hollywood Brown.
00:34:48
Why aren't we getting the ball in their hands and letting them take off? Why aren't there more screens here with J.
00:34:54
K.
00:34:55
Dobbins? Why are we not doing anything creative here? Everything is always trying to go down the field, vertical at some point. If defensive.
00:35:02
No, you're not going to throw in the short balls.
00:35:05
They're not gonna prepare for that.
00:35:06
They're just gonna back up their coverage and prepare for the deep ball, because that's always seem to be doing.
00:35:11
We put ourselves in these third and long situations because if the run doesn't work well, let's try and throw the ball down the field instead of your setting up something short, take the check down, run a screen or something like that.
00:35:21
You gotta be more creative with the skinny.
00:35:24
You gotta get your receivers more involved in the game you got.
00:35:27
One thing we got to say is, I know we want more talent at receivers, but I feel more importantly, we got to see the talent we drafted.
00:35:35
You've got a guy in Duvernay and another guy in pro Shea, which I really hope they try to get him into the offense because the guy got probably the best hands on the team.
00:35:44
But you've got talent here.
00:35:46
We're just not utilizing.
00:35:47
Maybe it would be nice toe.
00:35:49
Have another veteran receiver like a Julio Jones on this team.
00:35:53
But looking forward, you've drafted these two guys that have real talent, and Duvernay is actually making an impact when he's there.
00:36:01
Why aren't we getting the ball in his hands more? Why aren't we scheming for them? Ah, lot of this has to come on Greg, Roman and he himself.
00:36:08
He's got to be more creative with the passing game and one thing I'm scared to say is I'm not exactly sure if he can, because we've seen this in other areas, has been with San Francisco or Colin Kaepernick.
00:36:20
The passing game.
00:36:21
There wasn't really creative.
00:36:22
It's kind of followed him.
00:36:24
And that's probably one big reason why he's not going to get a head coaching job anytime soon.
00:36:27
Because, like, is this games? This just is not there.
00:36:31
I don't know why he's not, You know you got your specialties here and there.
00:36:35
But for the most part on offense, you've got to be creative all around.
00:36:39
I'm not asking Greg Roman to be the most creative offensive schemer all around, But with the passing game, you've got to be more creative and he's not.
00:36:48
You've got the person now you gotta know how to work it.
00:36:50
So I just feel like Greg woman.
00:36:52
For the most part, he's gonna have to get more creative, and he's gonna have toe try to scheme to get these receivers the ball more.
00:36:59
If you can't, this is gonna be a problem.
00:37:01
Let me let me let me ask you guys this thing.
00:37:03
So, like if we have like if the Ravens sound like the same sort of like struggles or issues for the rest of the season.
00:37:08
Like the passing game not being creative us not scheming open our personnel.
00:37:12
Do you think that it will more so fall on Greg Roman and will probably move on from him? Or do you think that people will just kind of look at it as like, Oh, Lamar's just not what we thought he was? What do you think the Ravens do in that situation? Okay, it's kind of a mix of both for the most part, because everyone's already looking at Lamar's performance this season as compared to last season.
00:37:31
So if it's not working out with the receivers as the quarterback, you're going to take a good chunk of that blame.
00:37:38
But I also feel like Greg Roman's also going to get the blame, because at some point people are starting to catch on that this guy schemes are the same.
00:37:45
I mean, going all the way back to the Cincinnati game.
00:37:48
I don't remember the line back who actually called out, and then this post game where you talked about Lamar is only throwing the two people, and that seems the only to be the only thing they're scheming for Yep, Mark Andrews in Hollywood Brown.
00:38:00
So we just focus on covering them and more defense is no, that's what we're doing is not just like we're going trying to spend trying to spread the ball around or anything.
00:38:10
But for the most part, it's kind of just targeting those two guys.
00:38:13
And if we continue to run this type of schemes where it's like, Oh, we always gotta look for Mark Andrews Part of that is gonna be on the Marr because he's on Lee looking for those guys.
00:38:21
They get everyone involved.
00:38:23
But part of that's gonna have to deal with scheme because you've got a bunch of other receivers that got talent, that you could scheme for it to get the ball in their hands and you're not doing that.
00:38:32
So I feel like it's gonna be kind of a mix of blame between the two.
00:38:36
But media wise, it's going to be more Lamar Jackson because he's the quarterback.
00:38:40
I don't see anyone talking about Greg Roman's involvement in this is definitely going to be Lamar Jackson with the media for in terms of the Ravens fan base and anyone that has actually been paying attention.
00:38:49
It's going to be a mix of Lamar and Greg. Roman.
00:38:53
Yep, I agree.
00:38:55
Can I ask that? Because I can.
00:38:56
I ask the panel of guys who were really centralized around the Ravens when you talk about because I went back to last year and looked at Lamar Jackson, relatively speaking, was he had 55 deep ball pass attempts last year on Li.
00:39:07
Two of them were intercepted, so was relatively successful.
00:39:11
Is deep looks and it was a relatively net neutral results.
00:39:14
It wasn't getting a lot of deep ball turnovers.
00:39:16
Are you? Are you seeing then? Still try to push that ball down the field this year? And if they're not doing that, maybe to the point of Greg Roman or just overall from a personnel standpoint, do you have to look at your wide receiver room and then maybe say, Well, what we're really more suited for here is toe have quality possession receivers as opposed to these deep threats, that if if we're not gonna we're reining in Lamar Jackson, then what's the value of having guys that could get downfield because again is your point.
00:39:42
It seems like keeping it riel that you're talking about? Well, he's holding on this couple of guys, and I happen to like Andrews at the tight end position, but we know these on a deep threat.
00:39:50
So you're talking about a quality possession guy.
00:39:52
How do you surround better chain moving guys? Because you're dynamic Playmaker is under center, and then even in the backfield, when you talk about these running back, so you know, reverse engineer this thing, if you're most dynamic players are, are there around the line of scrimmage, then just have the quality guys that you know can get you the 3rd and 7th, the 3rd and 8th to move these chains.
00:40:14
And it may be counterintuitive to say, the Baltimore Ravens offense should be thinking about being more possession based than dynamic big home run plays, whether from the quarterback's legs or through the air.
00:40:25
And just think about Hey, we got a quality defense.
00:40:27
What we want to do here is have nice 10 to 13 play drive to take a lot of clock and then ask the question of other offenses.
00:40:34
Can you move against our defense because you may only get 80% of league average possessions in a game against us.
00:40:41
So you're gonna lose one.
00:40:42
You're gonna get seven.
00:40:43
You're only getting six this game.
00:40:44
You're only getting five this game and you better convert when you get in the red zone.
00:40:47
Because if not, you may not see that ball again.
00:40:50
That's just the dynamic that I always wonder about when the Ravens have been.
00:40:54
Historically, you hang your hat on defense first and expect the offense to just be consistent for you.
00:41:00
Yeah, no, that's a great point.
00:41:02
And that's something that we were actually, I'm gonna bring in my guy Lawrenson real quick cause he's in the waiting room.
00:41:07
But we were kind of expecting for Miles Boykin to kind of turn into that possession style.
00:41:13
You know, move the chains receiver and he hasn't really been that right. He's kind of been a disappointment.
00:41:18
Hey, had a decent game yesterday against the Steelers, you know, he had that nice touchdown grab it after after the pick six there, but yeah, it's something that I've been saying.
00:41:28
You guys know the type of receivers I like those big bodied physical possession receivers that I wanted us to have.
00:41:34
I wasn't the biggest Hollywood Brown fan before the draft, Um, as most of you guys know.
00:41:40
But you know, I I like the dynamic that he brought to our offense last season because the running game was so terrifying.
00:41:47
Hollywood was that extra threat that you had to worry about that deep threat, that speedy receiver that's able to get open on the outside, and it just hasn't really been working as much.
00:41:57
Uh, this season, and I think a big reason for that is because now we only are down to two tight ends instead of the three tight end sets that we used to run last season.
00:42:05
So just a lot of factors.
00:42:06
But yeah, that's That's definitely a great point there, Adam about maybe that the way the offense is built also has a little bit to do with some of the struggles there.
00:42:15
But let's bring in my guy Laurence Lawrence.
00:42:18
What's up, man? And he's actually a fan of the Indianapolis Colts.
00:42:23
You are getting us after we're coming for our revenge, man.
00:42:26
This is gonna be a revenge game on the Colts.
00:42:29
No, but seriously, we have about 200 people in here, man.
00:42:32
Don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe to every single one that you see here, please.
00:42:37
But we're gonna go for about 10 more minutes Here, fellas.
00:42:40
Lawrence, give me your quick summary.
00:42:43
Man, you got to watch the game.
00:42:45
I'm assuming What? How did you feel? Because I mentioned it earlier.
00:42:48
I thought the Ravens dominated for the most part.
00:42:51
If just one or two things go our way, we probably would have won this game.
00:42:55
We should have won that game, but the Steelers ended up winning.
00:42:58
So, Lawrence, let's hear your thoughts.
00:43:00
And then I'm gonna get to the Super Chest.
00:43:02
Alright? So first off, when I was going back out, so I wanted to wait for the actual 22 to drop so I could see it, but yeah, they don't drop till tomorrow.
00:43:13
So I had to go over the game on regular game film for I don't know, two or three times.
00:43:18
And to me, it seemed like Lamar Jackson.
00:43:21
Yes, he was a problem.
00:43:24
But I'm wondering why he felt as though he was hurried every time he ended up getting the football and had to throw the football because from what I was seeing Lamar didn't seem like he was comfortable in that pocket at that time.
00:43:39
Every time he stepped back, he was not comfortable And that I think that has a lot to do with not only the Steelers, you know, knowing that the Steelers was coming in.
00:43:50
But it seemed like there was like, he wasn't comfortable with the protection around him as well.
00:43:56
You know what I'm saying? So that that was an issue that I was seeing a lot of in that game last night was you could almost feel it was almost palpable with with how he was standing in the pocket.
00:44:07
He was very jittery with the football.
00:44:09
Like he needed to get rid of that football, couldn't wait to get rid of it.
00:44:13
And then when it didn't happen, because he, you know, was going through his progressions because here's the thing you were talking about earlier, keeping it riel.
00:44:21
You were talking about this scheming and going on one or two people, right? And a lot of Greg Roman situation.
00:44:29
And man, I've seen that as well.
00:44:33
But when the guy, when when your first read is not open, it was almost like he was freaking out.
00:44:40
Yeah, like like when? When that guy was not open, he could not throw it to him.
00:44:45
It was almost like, Oh, my gosh, what do I do now? And that's kind of really worries me long term.
00:44:52
Because if your quarterback gets really jittery when his first or second read that the play is scheme to get rid of, the football is not open and you start to get really jittery and you watch this feat.
00:45:07
They get really happy.
00:45:08
And that is a tale tale.
00:45:10
Time immediately for any quarterback of wanting to get rid of that.
00:45:14
Football don't wanna be sitting in that pocket.
00:45:17
Yeah, great.
00:45:18
Great point there.
00:45:19
Hold on. Let me get to the Super Chats.
00:45:21
And we could react to that.
00:45:22
J. Bronson.
00:45:23
Thank you for the donation.
00:45:24
He says.
00:45:25
Maybe if you all actually had quarterback instead of a glorified running back, y'all would have one very, very good comment there adds to the conversation.
00:45:34
Very well.
00:45:35
Thank you for that, Mr Goon.
00:45:37
Thank you for the donation.
00:45:39
He says Mr Gonna Grease Lamar is a glorified running back.
00:45:43
Very nice.
00:45:44
So we're now talking to the third person, apparently Okay, so thank you, guys, for your donations.
00:45:49
I appreciate that, but I don't appreciate your comments, but anyway, yeah, uh, in a way, like, I feel like Lamar, Dude, like, he did lose this that game.
00:46:00
And if it was just like, somebody that could manage the game and didn't throw didn't turn the football over, I think we would have won that game, right? So I'm not at all trying to say that.
00:46:11
Oh, if we would have had, like, another quarterback, we would have won that game.
00:46:15
But I think there is some truth to that, because those interceptions just killed us.
00:46:19
That fumble killed us like just the turnovers killed.
00:46:22
Put that blame of that fumble on Lamar, though.
00:46:25
I mean, it was really quick it was he should have seen.
00:46:28
But Dupri, though at a corner, that that's the problem, you know? So you're tackles are supposed to be able to protect your behind, uh, on speed rushers.
00:46:39
That's that's the whole idea is to push them out wide behind the quarterback.
00:46:43
So the quarterback and step up.
00:46:44
And if you watch, Lamar does step up in that quarter into that pocket to throw the football and he did the right thing.
00:46:52
And doing that do pre made an amazing, an amazing move off how he bet and got in there and got that arm and swatted it down.
00:47:00
I give that MAWR to a fantastic defensive play than any mist ake that Lamar did on that.
00:47:06
Now those those interceptions, on the other hand, yeah, I'm gonna drop those on Lamar.
00:47:11
Oh, yeah. No defending those straight.
00:47:14
You know what? You know what? I think that I mean, that's a good point.
00:47:17
And I think that, like, that fumble, because what quarter did that fumble happened? Like second quarter? Yeah.
00:47:22
I believe I believe you there, second quarter.
00:47:24
And I know this is kind of like a fitting for, like, the whole holiday season, but I feel like that fumble that play.
00:47:28
It kind of haunted Lamar and I know we just got done with Halloween that haunted him for the rest of the game because, like Lawrence was saying, like, he had happy feet for a lot of the game.
00:47:37
And that happens when you play a defense like the Steelers, who they're bringing pressure off the edges.
00:47:41
So the right they're trying to set the edge so the mark cannot go left.
00:47:43
He cannot go right.
00:47:44
He knows people gonna be coming around behind him.
00:47:47
That's why when he steps up, he's getting happy feet.
00:47:49
He doesn't see his first read open.
00:47:50
He doesn't see his second read open.
00:47:52
He sees a linebacker spying on him.
00:47:53
T J Watt, you know, But he knows that people are behind him, so he knows he's hot.
00:47:57
And a lot of that has to deal with, Of course, us losing Ronnie Stanley, of course, on Ben.
00:48:02
We even had to bring Orlando Brown put him on the left side because Fluker just was not cutting it.
00:48:07
But he ended up playing, you know better.
00:48:09
But like I said, like you said, it was a good point.
00:48:12
He was.
00:48:13
He was hot in that in that situation, and he fumbled.
00:48:15
He fumbled the ball and that from the rest of the game, like he kind of was just kind of. He was uncomfortable.
00:48:20
He was very uncomfortable with, like, standing in the pocket and, you know, making those reason like delivering throws.
00:48:24
So we're going forward.
00:48:26
We just need to, of course, like trying to bolster down that offensive line as much as we can.
00:48:30
I see is probably making a move before the trade deadline, getting somebody or something on on that offensive line just so we could have some sort of, like, you know, some sort of help down there.
00:48:38
But that's a good point, Lawrence.
00:48:41
Yep, let's let's bring in my guy Ravens.
00:48:43
See to give his thoughts.
00:48:45
What's up, Ravens? See? How you doing, man? What's going on? Oh, man, I had I had to jump on.
00:48:49
Yeah, we're looking like y'all having too much fun on you already know bad.
00:48:53
So we're gonna close out in a little bit in about five minutes.
00:48:56
Let me get to the super chat first, and then Ravens see, we'll get your thoughts on yesterday's game, man, and then closing.
00:49:01
Closing perspectives here.
00:49:04
My guy William Trigger finger roof.
00:49:06
Oh, or rough.
00:49:07
Oh, I don't know how to say that name.
00:49:08
Sorry. He says, Come on, Nubes, You can't lie.
00:49:10
Lamar did look like a whole running back yesterday.
00:49:14
That doesn't mean we should dump him, of course.
00:49:16
But he looked bad.
00:49:18
I wouldn't go that far to call him a running back.
00:49:20
But I will say he did look bad.
00:49:22
Eso alright, Ravens See, Let's hear your thoughts about yesterday's game, man.
00:49:27
Let's let's get some positivity.
00:49:29
Let's try. Let's try to be positive.
00:49:31
E got to talk about the running back situation.
00:49:33
I did not know.
00:49:34
Throughout my 35 years of living, I never seen a running back leader league and passing last year.
00:49:42
And when the m v p true, I've never seen that.
00:49:47
That's a great point, Lamar.
00:49:50
The game yesterday he did play bad.
00:49:53
Um, even like in my reaction videos.
00:49:56
Like keeping it real.
00:49:57
You said it when he threw that pick.
00:50:00
I knew he was going to do something in that game bad, but I didn't expect it that early.
00:50:05
Yeah, and then on the past two, I believe you.
00:50:09
He was throwing to a Porsche and he was clearly covered.
00:50:15
Yep.
00:50:16
And that's what really irritated me that he was really covered.
00:50:19
And I'm like, Dude, who are you throwing too? Because it was no way he was gonna get that ball.
00:50:27
That was terrible.
00:50:28
No way you could defend that.
00:50:29
And then on Lee Yeah, I just got to speaking about where he fumbled.
00:50:34
Hey, pump faked where he moved the ball from Bud.
00:50:40
Then he kind of like, Hesitate toe, throw it.
00:50:42
That's when Bud hit it.
00:50:44
And I'm like, Why you pump faking when you just dodge that pressure? I still don't understand that.
00:50:52
It's like which I said earlier.
00:50:54
He cannot hesitated.
00:50:55
This year, he's hesitating.
00:50:57
Last year, he was going for the throat.
00:51:01
100 difference.
00:51:02
I'm not 100% sure, exactly.
00:51:03
See, that's why I wanted to wait for that old 22 to come out so I could see the entire field.
00:51:09
But he might have been trying to get a safety off a receiver so that he could throw that open spot to ah to ah, receiver or a tight end or something.
00:51:20
And that's what I mean.
00:51:21
That's what used to pump fakes for.
00:51:23
But that pump fake was quick, but he was stepping forward as he pump faked, so I still feel that his pocket movement was okay on that play.
00:51:35
It's just dip pre made a really good play there, though.
00:51:39
Mhm.
00:51:40
All right, fair enough.
00:51:41
Well, I wish we could go longer, guys, but I know we have to get get out of here.
00:51:45
So one thing I will say men, you know, we're five and two.
00:51:49
It's not over yet.
00:51:50
I'll take you guys back to the 2018 season, Lamar's rookie season.
00:51:55
There was a team that was sitting at seven and two.
00:51:58
They were flying high.
00:52:00
They were sitting pretty.
00:52:01
They're like, Oh, we got the A F C North in the bag.
00:52:04
That was the Pittsburgh Steelers, and there was the lowly second place Ravens, sitting at four and five after three losses in a row.
00:52:12
Absolutely no way.
00:52:14
We're coming back.
00:52:15
And then what happens? The Ravens come back, go 10 and six and win the A F C North.
00:52:21
So I know it sounds ridiculous right now.
00:52:24
The Steelers just beat us there at 70 They're probably going to continue to win a lot of games, but we're not out of it just yet.
00:52:31
I know it's it's, you know, it's doom and gloom, but we have a rematch on Thanksgiving.
00:52:36
Let's try to win that game and let's just try to continue to win games.
00:52:40
I know it's gonna be tough.
00:52:41
We don't have Marlon Humphrey for this game against the Colts.
00:52:44
We don't have Ronnie Stanley for the rest of the season.
00:52:47
But if we could just rely on the defense, rely on the running game, do what we've always done, then you never know.
00:52:54
You know things can turn around, but that's that's kind of what I wanted to say.
00:52:59
May I have a closing statement? Sure.
00:53:02
I just want to say this. Alright.
00:53:04
First off, I can't wait to break the Ravens Ravens game down with the Colts this week.
00:53:08
But, man, for everyone watching this, if you're a Ravens fan, I get this.
00:53:13
Lost sucks.
00:53:15
But you got to remember as badly as Lamar Jackson look as many drops and and stuff that that has happened over the last few weeks.
00:53:24
This game against the Steelers, you played, Ah, very, very good defense.
00:53:28
Your quarterback did not play nearly as good as he can.
00:53:33
And yet, still, somehow you found yourself in the game with a chance to win it late.
00:53:38
E would not take this as a as a completely bad situation.
00:53:42
Ah, lot of bad things happen in this game.
00:53:45
You should have won this game.
00:53:47
Yeah, without any question.
00:53:49
So I like you said man, Just because you're sitting there with two losses on the season.
00:53:54
Don't look down because, uh, if Lamar and the rest of this offense can get some things figured out a little bit, like you were saying earlier about maybe getting an extra offensive linemen because I think that is something that is that is desperately needed.
00:54:07
Get a few things fixed.
00:54:09
This Ravens team's gonna be right back to being what they was last year, and that's being dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, Absolutely.
00:54:16
And go ahead.
00:54:18
Go ahead.
00:54:19
I was gonna say, like in my closing statements, I think that, like like Lauren said, the Ravens will be fine.
00:54:24
I feel like we get a couple extra pieces.
00:54:26
But what? I also think that what we need to do is we need to win the game.
00:54:31
However, we can win the game.
00:54:33
So don't try to put all of the pressure on Lamar Jackson to go out and win the game.
00:54:38
Like I said earlier, third quarter starts were up 10 points.
00:54:41
Why are we still putting the ball in Lamar Jackson's hands to go and play hero ball at that point? J. K.
00:54:46
Dobbins and Gus Edwards have over 100 yards combined total rushing against the number one rushing defense in the NFL.
00:54:52
So it's like we have to win the game.
00:54:54
How we can.
00:54:55
So I think the silver lining from it was gusting.
00:54:57
J K.
00:54:58
They're really good as the 12 punch.
00:54:59
Like keeping it real with saying earlier.
00:55:00
So I think going forward if we utilize them or and you know, I hate to say it, but Mark Ingram he's gonna be gone, you know? And I hate that for us mentally wise.
00:55:11
But in terms of, like, skill on the field, Gus and J K R R guys going forward.
00:55:16
And I would love to see more of them going on for the rest of the season.
00:55:20
Absolutely agree.
00:55:21
Luke.
00:55:22
Thank you for the donation, man.
00:55:23
He says fax the closing statement.
00:55:25
Appreciate that s o anyone else? Go ahead.
00:55:28
Feel free to throw out the closing statement.
00:55:30
Men were all giving our own.
00:55:31
Yeah, I guess I'll give one for before I start.
00:55:34
Joe, I love how you brought up that the same situation we were in in 2018 because I had to steal a fan.
00:55:39
Tell me the exact same thing yesterday They're like, Oh, man, now that we've beaten you guys, we've got the division and I was like, You do remember in 2018 we were in the same situation.
00:55:48
When you guys beat us, you were up and then we came back in the A F C North.
00:55:53
As long as it's competitive, no one wins the crown until it's official, so it's still competing.
00:55:59
But overall we're five and two in the season.
00:56:03
Obviously, there are a lot of problems on the team that we want to fix.
00:56:06
But to be five and two, despite all these issues, you gotta be happy with the results.
00:56:11
You know, for the most part, we do know we got a lot of problems we gotta fix, but we're going to be fine.
00:56:16
It's going to take some time.
00:56:18
The offensive at some point is going to need to get better and I believe it will improve defensive wise when they're healthy.
00:56:25
There's nothing really to worry about.
00:56:26
In fact, adding unique hasn't made it better and over time that front seven is going to be better.
00:56:32
But offensively, you know, we just gotta find a way to get the guys the rhythm.
00:56:37
The play calling gotta be better, which I hope will improve over time, and we got to see what we have.
00:56:43
For the most part, I think they're starting to turn that way because I believe I saw a report from like Jeff when he was showing Jeff's Arabic who you guys know him.
00:56:52
He was showing the report of the snaps that was taken, and J K got like, twice the amount of snaps that Gus got.
00:56:59
So it looks like the Ravens are kind of moving forward to try and give him more snaps moving forward.
00:57:03
And it seems to work in this game.
00:57:05
Also, Duvernay actually got a lot more snaps than we expect to have more snaps than Boykin.
00:57:09
So it seems they're trying to get him more involved.
00:57:12
So I believe this is going to be a process.
00:57:14
Ravens fans, We're gonna have to be patient for the most part as they try to figure out what they're gonna do in this offense.
00:57:19
I don't know if they're going to get any additional pieces to fit like another weapon, but if they don't, we're gonna have to work with what we have.
00:57:26
So for the most part is gonna take some time.
00:57:29
They got a lot to work out.
00:57:30
It's got a lot of things to improve on, but we got nine games to fix it.
00:57:35
It's only half the season way.
00:57:37
We got nine games to fix it.
00:57:39
We'll see where we are at the end of the season right now, sitting at five and two, we should be happy.
00:57:44
But we shouldn't settle for issues.
00:57:46
Yep, absolutely.
00:57:48
Alright.
00:57:49
Ravens see anything? The admin, and then we're going to get out.
00:57:51
Get on out of here pretty much.
00:57:53
Said it best.
00:57:54
I'm just for the Steeler fans That's continually parading like they want a Super Bowl.
00:57:58
I'm just waiting Thanksgiving and plus E can't wait high looking.
00:58:05
There is a possibility we can see them in the playoffs.
00:58:08
That will be funny.
00:58:09
The more first playoff win would knock the Steelers out.
00:58:12
That was that was recently on E.
00:58:16
That would be the Twitter.
00:58:18
Uh, no.
00:58:19
But Matt Magnin Thank you for the donation, man.
00:58:21
He says when I think of Collins and Crabtree with us, I laugh out loud.
00:58:25
Oh, bro, man, that was Yeah, It could be worse, I guess In a way, so All right.
00:58:29
I want to thank everybody that joined us today.
00:58:31
Men also shout out to my guy Adam, who was here earlier.
00:58:34
He had to dip out a little bit early.
00:58:35
Make sure you guys follow him on SportsCastr Adam armed Brecht and Lawrence will let you tell the people where they can find you because I know you have to get out of here.
00:58:43
So, Lawrence, let them know your YouTube channel, social media, all that.
00:58:47
Oh, man.
00:58:48
I'm Lawrence O on on YouTube.
00:58:50
SportsCastr, obviously Lawrence O in NFL.
00:58:53
And, uh, Colts underscore law on Twitter and Instagram.
00:58:58
So it's really easy to find me.
00:59:00
Uh, generally, you could just type in Lawrence going anywhere and find me.
00:59:04
So there you go.
00:59:05
And we're gonna have you back Lawrence a little later in the week because we got a preview.
00:59:09
Are our upcoming game there in Indy? So Yeah, What That you'll be online to? Yeah. All right.
00:59:15
All right.
00:59:16
Thank you for joining men.
00:59:18
Alright, sudden death.
00:59:19
Let the people know where they confined you. That man.
00:59:22
Yes, sir.
00:59:23
Like Joseph, I'm sudden death.
00:59:25
You can find me on Twitter or Instagram or you can just google sudden death.
00:59:28
I'll show up.
00:59:29
You know, in most cases, um, there is a new Ravens podcast on the way featuring myself and Alex simply a s 10.
00:59:35
The one who makes all the hype videos, the nice videos and stuff like that. We talked about that.
00:59:39
So that is on the way.
00:59:40
Be on the lookout for that.
00:59:41
But other than that, Ravens fans just stay up. Stay safe, man.
00:59:44
I'll catch you guys in the next one for sure, man.
00:59:47
All right, Next up, Ravens.
00:59:48
See, Let the people know where they confined you at just pretty much as you told me.
00:59:53
Or even see You will see my reactions.
00:59:56
That got a lot of use yesterday.
00:59:58
A lot of haters.
01:00:00
A lot of people love thio with comments.
01:00:03
Sector was crazy.
01:00:04
Also, you can hit me up on Twitter.
01:00:06
Anything like that.
01:00:08
Keeping it riel, Joe.
01:00:09
Thanks, everybody.
01:00:10
Stay safe. Where? Your mask.
01:00:12
Have a good one. Yeah.
01:00:14
All right, man.
01:00:15
So all right, keeping it really is.
01:00:16
Well, let the people know where they can find you at All, right.
01:00:19
You could find me here on YouTube.
01:00:21
YouTube name, keeping it really you know, we give sports takes.
01:00:24
I do recaps.
01:00:25
I do reaction to the games, and we just try to have fun here.
01:00:27
We give some real talk about sports, and we try to have fun as much as we can.
01:00:31
You can also find me on Twitter as keeping it real is well.
01:00:33
But for the most part, I'm just here on YouTube doing my thing.
01:00:36
So thanks for having me, Joe.
01:00:37
This was fun.
01:00:38
Absolutely, man. Thanks for coming on.
01:00:40
All right, fellas, make sure you guys subscribed.
01:00:42
All those guys that joined me on the podcast today.
01:00:45
We had a great therapy session.
01:00:47
I think I hope that you guys come out of it feeling a lot better.
01:00:50
Yes.
01:00:51
You know, the sky feels like it's falling.
01:00:52
A lot of things were going wrong.
01:00:54
However, a lot of things could go right.
01:00:56
The season's not over yet.
01:00:58
We're still five and two.
01:01:00
We're still in contention.
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Men for the A F C North for the A F. C.
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Ravens’ John Harbaugh reacts to Marquise Brown’s tweet following Steelers loss

After the Baltimore Ravens lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home in Week 8, wideout Marquise Brown voiced his frustrations on Twitter, something head coach John Harbaugh was sympathetic about. Brown was targeted only two times against the Steelers. While his one catch was a touchdown, the speedster clearly wanted more touches. During his press […]

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two guys.
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First things first.
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It's Joe knew both.
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Thank you all so much for coming out today.
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And, yes, for those wondering, I am feeling a lot better.
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I am not as angry as I was after yesterday's loss.
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Uh, make sure the levels air correct? No, obviously, I'm still not feeling too great about it.
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It sucks, but it's It's the day after, you know, it's It's about that time that we get over it and my sign is all crooked, Bro.
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Hold on a second.
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That's a little better.
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All right, so, guys, the plan for this stream is We're doing Ravens therapy.
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Welcome to the first episode of Ravens therapy for the end of Podcast live.
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We're trying something out here, basically after every loss every Monday after every loss, we're going to start doing some therapy sessions, man, because I know that a lot of Ravens fans are like me that there's a lot of things that we got to talk out a lot of a lot of problems that we're dealing with now, especially with all this news coming out.
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You know, there's the Hollywood Brown tweet that popped out yesterday that came out yesterday after the game, there's Marlon Humphrey testing positive for co vid.
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There is, of course, there's just so much stuff going on, then there's yesterday's game that we have to deal with.
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Oh, there's Ronnie Stanley being done for the season.
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I mean, my goodness, there is just so much to talk about, and I am going to be bringing in some guy's very soon.
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But I did want to kind of give my opinion on yesterday's game before we bring on some of these guys that we've got coming on real quick.
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So real quick, fellas, let me just break it down for you.
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My notes.
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I re watched the game about a Knauer ago just to kinda refresh myself and get some of my thoughts out of the way because there was something that I said, Uh, I was really laying hard until Lamar Jackson dude yesterday I was ****ed off at Lamar, and I still think that it's warranted.
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I still do think I believe that he deserves most of the blame for losing this game because, quite simply, he gifted the Steelers 14 points, two touchdowns.
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You just can't do that with turnovers and all that type of stuff.
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It's it's just not it's not gonna be a good game when you end up doing that.
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So I still do believe that Lamar deserves most of the blame for this loss.
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But I was kind of re watching it, and I think that I was kind of underselling.
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The blame that Greg Roman deserves for this game is well, because there was some bad drives, man, there was some bad play calling.
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So yeah, I'm still going to say that.
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I believe Lamar deserves most of the blame, but I also believe that Greg Roman deserves a good chunk as well.
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So I went through the game again and I mentioned yesterday that I believe that we actually we actually dominated the Steelers, in my opinion, just like from a pure game perspective, like I know on the scoreboard, it doesn't look like we did it look like a close game throughout and the Steelers ended up winning at the end there.
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But it's to me.
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It wasn't like that to me.
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It was we were the better team and we were dominating them for most of the game and we should have won that game.
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That's just how I feel about it.
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I went through it and it had the potential to be like a 32 14 game in our favor.
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That's what it seemed like to me.
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You know, Um, there were some points left on the board.
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We got some good field position at some points, and we just weren't able to take advantage.
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So I got you know, the first.
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I just kinda gonna want to go through a couple drives here or a few drives that happened in the game yesterday.
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So the very first drive, as we know, ended on a pick six for Lamar Jackson again.
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Can't make that throw.
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That is just terrible.
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Bad read totally on Lamar.
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You can't defend that throw again.
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Giving the Steelers the points there.
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We would have won if that didn't happen.
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Right. So there's that.
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Then they came back, They answered back Pretty good.
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Touchdown drive.
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I did feel we got a little bit bailed out by that Hayward call with that late hit.
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But, you know Hey, what are you gonna do? It's football.
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And the Steelers got some pretty bad calls us well for them.
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So they got bailed out later on in the game, so but it happens.
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A beautiful throat, a beautiful touch down through the Miles Boykin in the end zone.
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What are you gonna do about that? And then the subsequent drives.
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There was the fumble that we caused on Chase Claypool.
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Right? Marcus Peters punched the ball out of Chase Claypool's hands, and that's what you have to score.
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You have to score a touchdown after that fumble and what do we do? We get down all the way to second and goal, and then Lamar fumbles the ball.
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That was another.
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That's Lamar's fault right there.
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In my opinion, he should have seen that Bud Dupree was coming off the edge.
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He was screaming off the edge.
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He saw him out of the corner of the eye, and rather than getting rid of the ball, he just, uh you know, he kept the ball back there and and and then I got stripped out of his hands.
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So another at least three points taken off the board, and you could have argued that should have been a touchdown drive right? So we should have scored after that fumble recovery and instead We gave the ball right back to the Steelers, then the Steelers.
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And by the way, the Steelers didn't do anything, man, they didn't even get past that.
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I think they only got past the 50 yard line once in the entire first half.
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That's it.
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So our defense dominated them mostly.
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They only allowed 14 legitimate points.
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In my opinion, Um, so there was that that fumble.
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And then we ended up stopping the Steelers on their offensive drive after they recovered Lamar Jackson's fumble and they punted the ball and it was a bad pun.
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We got good field position again, and we just didn't capitalize on that.
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We didn't score any points.
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We didn't get into field goal territory that point.
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It should have been at halftime like 23 to 7.
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Just we lost out on at least six points that we could have had there, so it should have been 23 to 7.
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Even if you're counting the pick six, if you take off the pick six, it should have been 23 to.
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I'm just saying, but obviously it didn't end up turning out that way.
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It was 17 to 7 and then they come out in the second half and again guys were bringing, bringing on guest for this podcast.
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But I just want to get my whole my whole spiel out of the way first before I bring on more people here.
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So so 17 7 at the half.
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You know, in my there was some opportunities for us to at least put up 23 points.
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So it should have been like 23 to 7 23 to.
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If you take out the pick six and then coming out of the half, the Steelers get the ball and they do nothing.
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I believe they go like three and out.
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Or maybe they convert one third down or one get one first down and we come out and call a passing play.
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And this is where you do put the blame on Greg Roman bad play call.
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But also, when Lamar has these types of play calls, he needs to make better decisions.
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You don't try to force it over a linebackers head.
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I watched that play and he had Nick Boyle coming off through the middle and there was also Patrick Card that he could have just dumped it off.
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Instead, Lamar took the more dangerous throw, which ended up in an interception, and that gave him seven more points.
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So again, that shouldn't have happened.
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That put them up to 14.
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And it was because of Lamar's UH, two interceptions there.
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So there was that.
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And then the Steelers put forth their their best scoring drive all day.
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In my opinion, they only had, like, one legitimate, really good offensive drive, in my opinion, and that was there to put them up, 21 to 17.
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It was good throws to chase.
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Claypool Juju had some good place in there, so that was like their Onley, in my opinion, legitimate good offensive drive for the Steelers there.
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But again, we could have had at least 23 points on the board, but we didn't and then being 21 to 17 and then we come back, we end up scoring.
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We get up to 24.
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At that point, it could have been up to 30 with some of the missed opportunities, but instead it's 24 to 21 with Steelers still in the game, and then they come back with their final scoring drive the Steelers do, and in my opinion, the refs kind of helped him out a little bit.
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You gotta admit, I'm not trying to make excuses, but there were some very soft P.
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I calls at the end there to really keep their drive going right.
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And then they go up 28 24.
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So there's that.
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And then we all saw the final two drives where we had 1/4 and three.
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We call the quarterback draw on five wide.
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We probably That was definitely a bad call.
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That goes on, Greg, Roman.
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So just so many different things, man.
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But anyway, so we ended up losing, you know? So that's what I wanted to get out, man.
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And why don't we bring on some of our guests to kind of give their opinions on not only yesterday's game, but also some of the other things that are going on around here? You know, Hollywood Brown, his his stuff he got going on Marlon Humphrey all obviously being out because of co vid and Ronnie Stanley now out for the season.
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So why don't we bring him on? We got my guy keeping it, Riel.
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What's up, bro? deaf.
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And we got Adam armed bricks.
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Hold on a second, fellas.
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A real quick.
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I let me fix some things.
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Okay? You guys introduce yourself.
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Why don't we start off with my guy keeping it? Riel? What's going on, everybody? I'm a k excited to be here, Joe.
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Man, I've been wanting to come on the show for quite some time.
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Love what you do.
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What's going on? Everybody, uh, wall kinda still feeling the loss of that game.
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So I need this therapy session.
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Yeah, That's why we're all here for men.
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That's what we're all here for.
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Except for Adam.
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He's He's a Giants fan.
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He doesn't really carry.
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I just brought him in to get an outsider's fan's perspective on how Hey, it could be worse.
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Right? So, Adam let them know where you're coming from men and where they can find you.
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That wasn't terribly nice, Joe.
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I come in to help you out, and then you also extended my eyes.
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Yeah.
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Listen, contributor obviously on SportsCastr news with both NFL on MBA, you can find me on their using the search out of more, but just like my name, I'm here to alleviate you you guys.
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I think I hope so anyway, because I actually I'm a fan of Lamar Jackson, fan of the Ravens overall.
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So, yes, you guys should feel a lot better.
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It could be a lot worse.
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You could be the New York Giants.
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You could be me right now.
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So everybody take a deep breath.
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We're gonna be fine friends.
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Fair enough.
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And sudden death.
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What's up, bro? It was good.
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Ravens family was good.
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Joe was good keeping it.
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Riel was good.
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Adam, I haven't Haven't I don't think I've done Ah, livestream with Adam or keeping it real yet.
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So this is new.
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Um, Joe, I appreciate you for having me and us on again.
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I'm happy to be here, Happy to talk some Ravens, and this is gonna be a very, very, very good therapy session.
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I think for all of us here except for Adam, because he's a giant strain his team place today, but yeah.
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All right, man.
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So I don't know if you guys heard my whole little spiel about how I felt that, in my opinion, we dominated this game, but obviously just didn't end up being that way on the scoreboard.
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numbers tell you differently.
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But, I mean, we ran for what? Over 200 yards.
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If I'm not mistaken, I think the defense played, Ah, hell of a game.
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So just if if, if one or two things go differently men, if we score on one of those if we score on that fumble recovery, Uh, if we score when they they had a bad punt, if we take advantage of those, we definitely would have won this game.
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But I still put most of the blame on Lamar Jackson.
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I want to hear what you guys have to say about that.
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The reason I put it on Lamar is because he basically gifted the Steelers two touchdowns.
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So whoever wants to start first man who gets the most blame for this loss? Oh, man, you know, I I was talking to some some of my buddies yesterday after the game, and they were saying, Oh, how do you feel about Lamar? How do you feel about the Ravens? And I was telling him I was like, I put 80% of this blame, like for this game on Lamar Jackson.
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I put 20% of the coaches on I say 80% of Lamar because he had What was it? Four turnovers, right? Yep, four turnovers.
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And a lot of those turnovers came in very, very key moments.
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Like when we were.
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I think I believe was what Second quarter, when he came down and we fumbled like late in the red zone.
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He did that thing where, like he stands in the park and he's like, I don't know if I want to throw yet You get stripped and that's happened a lot before and it happened a lot in his rookie season.
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Now, last season.
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He got a lot better with that.
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And I think Harbaugh said it best like when he was saw.
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That said Lamar last season.
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He was like, Look, we love you because like, you don't hesitate, You just attack.
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I feel like this season he's doing a lot more hesitation in his game than he did last year, so that's a big problem for me.
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But I do put 20% of the blame on the coaching.
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Um I e Greg Roman because Greg Roman, he just when we needed him the most, he always folds on this and I was telling Alex this earlier simply as 10 because we've got some big stuff coming to me and him.
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But I was on him earlier that basically, we make we make adjustments when we don't need Thio.
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But when we do need to make adjustments, we don't, you know, and that's that's that's what kills me.
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So I put 80% of blame on Lamar.
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I put 20% on the coaching.
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I'll get more into a little bit later.
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But I want to hear these guys opinions, too, for sure, keeping it really go for it, man.
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Yeah, I would have to put most of this blame on Lamar Jackson.
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The four turnovers were the difference in this game.
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Like you, said Joe, when you look at the stats we dominated in this game are defense giving up 14 points and we rushing for over 200 yards in most games that so w we're getting 30 points out of that.
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But the turnovers, the pick six to start off the first drive, that one was definitely a tough one.
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We know when we start off down, we kind of change our approach and that's something we gotta move out off and the fumble at the goal line.
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I feel like that was the most crucial one because they often started to get something going there and you got down to the goal line.
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And for Lamar, it's a fumble that one hurt.
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And like Sutton said this season, he's just been hesitating.
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I don't know what is going on with Lamar, but when it comes to the pressure, he's hesitating a lot and he's not willing to take what the defense is giving him instead of taking off for just throwing it out there, just even trying to attack and step up in the pocket.
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For the most part, he's hesitating.
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He's pump faking and he's kind of going back to what he was doing in his rookie year.
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So the turnovers were definitely the difference.
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I do give a good amount of blame on Greg Roman for the play calling because I didn't exactly agree with starting off the third quarter that first drive passing because you know what, 17 to 7.
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This would be a good time to just run the football.
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We're actually having some level off progress on the Steelers defense with running the football, which is something most of us didn't exactly expect, considering that the Steelers run defense is like top five.
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But for us to actually get that level of production progression and production from our running backs, I kind of expected third quarter.
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We're just gonna run the ball, play to our game, and that's how it's gonna work.
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Instead, we come out throwing the ball, and I didn't agree with that play calling.
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But Lamar Jackson's past right there, that one's more on him than Greg Roman.
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I don't agree with the call, but the past.
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I can't put down Greg.
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Roman.
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Lamar should have seen that defender there, and there was also a check down with Patrick card that he could have taken.
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It was in his vision.
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Instead, he chose to force it to Andrews, which is by now defense have kind of gotten used to who he's throwing, too.
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So for the most part, I got to give the blame to Lamar.
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But the play calling needs to improve absolutely, absolutely on point man.
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Definitely great, great, great, great stuff there.
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So, Adam, let's hear from an outsider's perspective, what did you think about this game man? Do you agree with us that you know the way it looks.
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The Ravens absolutely dominated.
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Or is it just us being, you know, putting our purple glasses on drinking some of that purple Kool Aid? What do you think in here, Adam? Well, listen, just from a quick a guy in need of therapy session is I had what I thought was the inside track on stashing J.
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K.
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Dobbins in fantasy football leagues.
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Knowing I liked him, knew it was gonna be a thing.
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And then eventually I got to the place where I was like, Listen, if they're not gonna play them, I just gotta let him go.
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And of course, he goes out 114 yards there and, you know, it really makes me.
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I feel a little bit chagrin about a league that's going sideways on me.
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Listen, keeping it riel, you mentioned about that idea of play calling versus execution and decision making.
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That's something that in year two for Daniel Jones and the Giants, that's a lot of that talk around Jason Garrett.
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Oh, I don't love that play call.
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Okay? You cannot love the play call, But then, even inside of a quote bad play.
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It still comes down to decision making, and Lamar Lamar Jackson may be regressing a little bit from a high level here.
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He offers up a pick six right out the gate.
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So you're talking about in a game that you lost by four points, man.
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Just take off that one Early mist Ake.
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He could still have three turnovers and you could still have won this game, right? You still wouldn't up 24 21 putting pressure on the side of Pittsburgh Steelers and Big Ben to be able to get something done there on their own.
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Thea other thing for me is and I think this is really just big picture on Lamar Jackson.
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Go back to his draft year.
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Everybody passed on him, right? Nobody thought that he was going to be a franchise level quarterback.
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Good on the Ravens, you guys make the smart choice by snagging him really is a steal.
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It turns out when you wanna quickly just looked back over his stats here.
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When you talk about these last couple of years, the things that jump out at me or one this season in particular was still one game to go before the official midway point.
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His rushing attempts are going to be down this year.
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Relative to the first two seasons, you are talking about his completion percentage being down, but 58 66 now, 60 this season.
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So my my curiosity is coming into this year to the coaching staff say, Hey, we're going to continue to refine.
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You continue to get you inside that pocket.
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Let's start to get some of that pocket presence that we want from you.
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So you are a bounce quarterback because you can't live going down, coughing up fumbles, diving in between the big bodies in a weekend week out basis.
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And you're just seeing that you're seeing a new set of growing pains like unlike when you talk about, ah, Year three quarterback and saying, You've got to be checking these boxes.
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You can't be Carson Wentz ing it right now in his fourth year, right? That's real concern.
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I think the learning curve for Lamar has to be a little bit longer than you traditionally would give with his starting point.
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He started out as a guy that said he's not very accurate, he's not a great passer.
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We're gonna use his legs.
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So you know longevity for him and taking that big picture approach is probably good.
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And, yes, I do think that collectively, the Ravens fan base could probably take a big sigh of relief and say, You guys were right in the mix.
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You went up against a very experienced coaching staff, a very experienced veteran quarterback.
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So have four turnovers from Lamar Jackson and still have lost this game by four points.
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Man play that same game nine times out of 10.
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Lamar's not coughing up four turnovers.
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You guys air.
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Probably winning, not out of those 10 games with the production you got in the run game.
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Not even having Ingram there for you as well.
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Yeah, and I would argue, we've been kind of saying that.
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I think we should have kind of phased out Mark Ingram from the running game from the beginning because it's it's been clear that both Gust Edwards and J.
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K.
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Dobbins are the best running backs on this team, right? So I'm glad that we finally got to see that.
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If I ask you is is that the compliment that you got? That's what you want right, Because the dynamic of J.
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K.
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Dobbins and Gus Edwards is a better compliment to the offense than sometimes the one dimensional will say of Ingram.
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I would be, 012 punch.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And Ingram was great last season, you know, and I love the guy, you know.
00:19:30
He brought us big trust and all that, and it's going to go down in history, right with Mark Ingram did for the team.
00:19:35
But it's clear to me at least, that he's not the best running back for the team right now.
00:19:40
It's the 12 punch of Gus Edwards and J.
00:19:43
K.
00:19:45
Dobbins, Um, but one thing I want that I was thinking about earlier about Lamar.
00:19:48
I feel like he went into this year with the same mindset as he did last season, which is I gotta prove everybody wrong, right? But I think what he's doing now is in trying to proving prove everyone wrong.
00:20:01
He's actually proving them right because he's hesitating.
00:20:05
He's not making the right reads.
00:20:07
He's just, uh it's, I mean, it's a It's a bunch of bunch of factors.
00:20:11
Of course, the offensive line.
00:20:13
We lost Marshal Yanda to retirement.
00:20:15
Now we lost Ronnie Stanley, which sucks even Mawr, so it hurts.
00:20:20
It hurts a lot for Lamar's development, no doubt, but what do you guys think, man, Whoever wants to jump in, Do you think that we're seeing a Lamar actually regress? Or do you think he just has to relax? You know, take it easy, clear his mind and just play his game.
00:20:36
I think it's more of like he just needs to calm down.
00:20:39
I think he's He's kind of buying into all the critics right now, for the most part, just like putting the pressure on himself.
00:20:46
I gotta perform in these big games.
00:20:47
I gotta perform in these big games.
00:20:49
I I like to bring up two games. For the most part.
00:20:52
You look at this vote, the Steelers game and the Chiefs game, and then you look at like that Monday Night Football game against the Rams and you see, like in both those games, he was dealing with pressure and Lamar actually handled those situations in two different ways.
00:21:06
With the Rams.
00:21:07
He was calm, cool, calm, cool and collected for the most part, and he just took what the defense gave him.
00:21:13
One of the best place he had in that Rams game was they were sending in all blitz just before halftime, and he just threw a bullet in the end zone to Willie Snead for his third touchdown.
00:21:23
He was so calm, cool, collected.
00:21:24
He saw the blitz coming, read the right read and got it to sneak with no problem this season.
00:21:30
For some reason, he's either not reading the blitzes right, or he's just not handling the pressure.
00:21:35
Or he's just getting a little bit too jittery and thinking, I gotta make a play.
00:21:39
I gotta make a play.
00:21:40
I got to make a play and I feel for the most part, he needs to calm down.
00:21:43
Just take a breather.
00:21:44
And it also goes more towards us being down, because one thing the fans are starting to notice more and more is that when we're losing the game, Lamar Jackson on the sideline pounding and we're all seeing that on the camera is just on the sideline pounding.
00:21:58
He's angry.
00:21:59
He's kind of aloof to himself.
00:22:00
You're not seeing him talk with anyone else, and that's kind of a problem, because he's at that point when you're sitting by yourself pouting.
00:22:07
You're getting in your head and you start to think about like I gotta do this.
00:22:10
I got to do that.
00:22:11
I gotta perform.
00:22:12
Why am I doing this? I gotta just I gotta take a step back.
00:22:15
He needs to take it a step back.
00:22:17
Calm down.
00:22:18
Mistakes happen.
00:22:19
You're not gonna go out there and be perfect.
00:22:21
Turnovers will happen.
00:22:22
In fact, in this game, I expected one or two turnovers toe happen from this offense specifically because you're going up against, ah defense like Pittsburgh.
00:22:31
They're going to take the ball away.
00:22:33
And with the way our offensive line is, I expected the fumble toe happen.
00:22:36
Because these guys, their front seven is arguably the best front seven football.
00:22:40
So I expected them to get to a Lamar Ah, lot in this game and I expect turnover happen.
00:22:46
Lamar needs to calm down for the most part.
00:22:49
Take a breather and understand.
00:22:50
You're not gonna be winning in every game.
00:22:53
Go back, check the mistake.
00:22:55
Try to talk to your receivers.
00:22:57
Try to get on the same page.
00:22:58
If you thought pick, go over the play with you.
00:23:01
Receive.
00:23:02
Receive what he could have done.
00:23:03
See what you could have done.
00:23:04
Just take it slow and try to calm down.
00:23:05
He's got to get out of his own head right now because he's buying too much into the critics and it's starting to hurt this play.
00:23:12
Yeah, absolutely sudden.
00:23:14
Anything to say, anything to add? Well, man, I mean, I agree with everything that my man keeping it real just said, Honestly, it's just that for me, Yes, we can put a lot of blame on Lamar and I do think that he has regressed in a couple of different ways this season.
00:23:29
But I also think that with execution, you know there's no execution without a game plan, right? So with coaching and things like that, I feel like we're not actually putting him in the best positions to win the football game.
00:23:42
You know, our coaches, our coaching staff has to realize that we do have a young quarterback.
00:23:46
The man's 23 years old, you know, and I'm only I'm only 24 right so that I can kind of relate toe how he might be feeling like jitters wise just in terms of pure age, right? So I think that, like coaching staff, we need to realize that this man, he does need to calm down.
00:24:03
He does need to slow down, but do not put him in a situation where, at halftime after halftime, he's throwing the ball on 1st and 10 and especially not an out route six or seven yards to, like Mark Andrews and double coverage that does not make any type of sense at all.
00:24:16
We're up to scores, right? We're up 10 points.
00:24:19
Why are we throwing the ball on first down? First of all, let me back up a little bit.
00:24:22
We rushed for over 100 yards in the first half against the Steelers, the Steelers team that was only giving up on average 68 yards in the entire game against other teams.
00:24:34
So I mean, I just don't understand where we're coming from.
00:24:36
I don't know if Greg Roman was trying to stay two steps ahead, but for one step ahead.
00:24:40
But sometimes when you when you try to get like one step ahead, you can find yourself two steps back.
00:24:44
You know, I feel like that's what happened to us yesterday, so I think that like Lamar definitely is regressing in certain ways.
00:24:51
I feel like we'll be fine because, you know, as the season goes on and the chemistry gets better with, you know, our team, I feel like Willie Snead was very promising yesterday.
00:24:59
We saw a lot of dog, a lot of fight in him that was very promising.
00:25:03
Um, a couple other key pieces like, You know, I guess that Gus Edwards, J.
00:25:08
K. Dobbins, J. K.
00:25:09
Dobbins rushed for over 100 yards and Gus Edwards rushed for 86 yards and a touchdown.
00:25:13
You know, if they cannot stop the run, why stop running? You know what I mean? Like, it's just like Lamar Jackson.
00:25:20
Yet Like I said, he's regressing.
00:25:21
But the coaching stop it definitely deserves a lot of the blame to, So yeah, no, and I completely agree, man.
00:25:28
Something that I'm noticing in the chat is that and this is something that seems to be going on really through all the Ravens fan base man.
00:25:35
And I just don't get it because you're not allowed to criticize Lamar Jackson whatsoever.
00:25:40
Because if you do, you're a fake Ravens fan, right? I don't know if you guys were noticing that I do.
00:25:46
It's okay to criticize the quarterback.
00:25:48
What? He has a bad game like this.
00:25:49
All right, Just because I'm criticizing him doesn't mean that I'm, you know, trashing my own team.
00:25:55
Of course I love the team.
00:25:56
I'm always gonna love the team.
00:25:57
And I still believe in Lamar.
00:25:59
But if he has a bad game, I'm gonna call him out on it.
00:26:01
And I still think that he lost this this game.
00:26:04
That's all I'm saying.
00:26:05
And I also find it funny that somebody said, Oh, really? Ravens fans remember Anquan Boldin, like Anquan Boldin is the name that you bring up to call a real Ravens fan of real Ravens fan like, Come on.
00:26:15
Remember Anquan Boldin as Arizona Cardinal, like just primarily.
00:26:19
I know we had a long time with the Baltimore Ravens, but also there's a lot of other names I might pull out there for.
00:26:23
I probably pull out Trent Dilfer first, if exact name.
00:26:25
It's funny that that's the name that they choose.
00:26:28
But anyway, that Zatz, that's enough of my my little right there because I will say, keeping it real.
00:26:34
You mentioned it about on the sidelines.
00:26:35
I think at one point I noticed in the game, too, and I'm sure they got into the plays as well and reviewed what went right or wrong.
00:26:41
But there was a point where it seemed like a coordinator of some capacity was over there trying to show him things, and Lamar Jackson was fairly dismissive, like he was kind of like like, I don't want to really get into that right now, and I'm sure they went back to when we get in the film room, etcetera.
00:26:52
But just, you know, Tom Brady is not the gold standard for how you're supposed to be on sidelines and his demeanor and everything, but usually the best quarterbacks, especially after bad. Please.
00:27:03
The first thing they want to do is get inside the play and figure out.
00:27:06
Was it may? Was it on the receiver? Did we miss communicate how doe I avoid that next time? And that's something again when Sutton says about you know, uh, I'm 35 but you're 100% right, because the first thing I always think about when you talk about athletes, you always talk about what the expectations are of them on the field and then I think about man, when I was 22 23 years old.
00:27:26
You better not be putting a whole bunch of cameras on me and setting expectations because I was going to come up short, way off anymore that I was gonna be successful in that regard.
00:27:34
One of the things that I will say I just noticed quickly was in looking at a couple of things that splits this year.
00:27:40
When you talk about Lamar Jackson home and away, it's interesting that they are at home having him throw.
00:27:47
He's throwing a lot more passes.
00:27:48
The yardages there.
00:27:49
The touchdown to interception ratio is 8 to 3, which is nice.
00:27:52
But on the road, Fourtou one touchdown to interception, eight yards per completion as opposed to 6.5.
00:27:59
I'm just wondering, and the rating, although it's not Q B R.
00:28:02
104 versus 88 it seems like maybe they're protecting him a little bit more in terms of coaching style, may be protecting him a little bit more on the road and then trying to unleash him a little bit more home.
00:28:12
Now that's not a bad strategy, but you do need to make sure that it's going hand in hand.
00:28:16
When you talk about gameplay and dictating tempo.
00:28:19
As good as the Ravens are, your strength still is.
00:28:22
The is the defense first and the balance of this dynamic explosive.
00:28:26
You don't know when we're gonna hit you with Lamar Jackson on offense.
00:28:29
So from the outside, looking in, that should always be the way your game script is built.
00:28:34
And when you mentioned about Sneed maybe being showing some promise there, I still do.
00:28:38
Go back to you guys went ahead and brought in Dez Bryant to the practice squad.
00:28:41
I can appreciate that.
00:28:42
Yeah, I hope it goes well for him.
00:28:43
Um, but I do wonder about I'm not saying Antonio, You know Antonio Brown was the answer because I wouldn't bring in that type of personality, that locker room.
00:28:51
But I look around the league and I talk about picking up the phone and talking to Atlanta about Julio Jones.
00:28:56
Like I think, Ah, failure, you could say, is that they have not brought in a true, legit, dynamic, reliable 100% number one stud like they just did for Kyler Murray.
00:29:07
With noon, right? I think that's still a shortcoming that you haven't given Lamar Jackson, which helps mitigate some of the mistakes that he's gonna have and ps Joe.
00:29:16
Yes, you need to be able to criticize your players when they make mistakes.
00:29:19
That's the nature of being supportive of the team because you want the best product out of them.
00:29:22
And, yeah, you have four turnovers.
00:29:24
You better be getting ripped a little bit because you could Onley make excuses for so many mistakes.
00:29:29
Exactly.
00:29:30
Um, all right, why don't we? We've been talking a lot about weapons, and you know what Lamar has surrounding him.
00:29:36
And yes, we know it's not great.
00:29:37
And yes, we understand.
00:29:38
But my biggest thing is that I think that more so does go on Greg Roman, in my opinion, because what we've seen from Greg Roman is when he designs running plays.
00:29:48
Oh, they're phenomenal right there. They're amazing.
00:29:50
We had the best rushing attack in NFL history last year, right? That's that's not by mistake.
00:29:55
Greg Roman is a great designer of plays for the runs, but his passing plays his routes that he designs.
00:30:02
They're just not creative at all.
00:30:04
So what can we do with that man and obviously we saw with the whole Hollywood Brown tweet that came out that now has since been deleted, which is the main topic that we're talking about today.
00:30:14
Um, he said, What's the point of having soldiers on your team, right or something like that if you're not gonna use them? Basically, he said that and a lot of people were saying, Oh, it's a dig at Lamar.
00:30:26
You know, the national media, that's what they're going to say. It's Lamar.
00:30:29
He can't throw the ball.
00:30:30
That's the reason why he's saying that.
00:30:32
But I think it's more so a dig and maybe Greg Roman's play design and his routes.
00:30:37
I don't know.
00:30:38
What do you guys think about that man? Whoever wants to start, I'll go real brief.
00:30:42
So because you guys are gonna know way more about this, I'll that's often listen, the personnel you have, how do you maximize their value That goes to using Lamar Jackson and using his legs because you know he could be dynamic that way, leaning heavily on a dynamic, multi head and running game.
00:30:56
But okay, if you have a bunch of second tier kind of wide receivers How do you scheme them Open.
00:31:01
How do you get it in their hands and let them make those runs after the catch? The play, you know, yards after catch, right.
00:31:06
That's what I think.
00:31:07
I would like to see Baltimore Doom.
00:31:09
Or of I don't.
00:31:10
You guys will tell me if that adds up.
00:31:12
Yeah, that definitely adds up, man.
00:31:15
Absolutely.
00:31:17
I don't know.
00:31:18
I mean, I was just gonna say that That totally adds up.
00:31:20
You have Thio really know how to maximize what your personnel can do.
00:31:24
And I was actually I was watching the game yesterday and I was talking to my friend Nate about it, and I was telling him I was like, I think it's like midway through the third quarter and like we had not heard Hollywood, Brown's name called at all up into that point and I was saying like, Why are we not scheming up plays to get Hollywood open? He's probably like, he's like our number one weapon in our receiving core.
00:31:43
Besides, you know, Mark Andrews, you know, guys like that.
00:31:46
So I'm like, you know, I'm thinking like, why are we getting him open? And then he finally gets the ball in like one play.
00:31:50
And then after the game, I hear about his tweet and everything like that and how he deleted it.
00:31:54
Now, do I think that, like that was kind of harmful? Yes, in a way I do, because you never want to go out on social media out in public and say, What's the point? You know, and go against your your team, your family? You know you don't you don't ever want to do that, have any sort of like objections.
00:32:10
But after the game, you know, emotions were running still, like really high at that point.
00:32:15
And I know Hollywood is probably what probably around the same age is Lamar.
00:32:18
So there's still some sort of that, you know, that in maturity in there were like, he's gonna put out a tweet like that's because that's how he was feeling at the time.
00:32:24
And then, of course, he went ahead and deleted it afterwards, but he was 100% right.
00:32:28
There was no lie told there at all.
00:32:30
You know, he's like I said, he's one of our best weapons, one of our better weapons, at least, um, and we don't use them nearly as much as we should.
00:32:36
Same thing goes with Devin Duvernay, right? We didn't hear his name called, you know, Of course, he dropped the first pass of the game, which I felt it was a little bit high, Um, from my Lamar Jackson.
00:32:45
But you know that big play down the field.
00:32:47
One more thing to I don't know if it was just me, but seeing Lamar throw a deep to Duvernay yesterday, that was the first time I saw Lamar through a deep since, Like what Week? One or two? Yeah, it was.
00:32:59
It was.
00:33:00
It's been a while, so it's like when we don't keep defense is honest and we play.
00:33:04
It's such a discipline Steelers defense.
00:33:06
Our normal game plan is just not gonna work.
00:33:08
We have to.
00:33:09
We have to find different ways.
00:33:10
We have to be creative in our offensive schemes, like we can't just keep throwing the same thing out of guys expecting it to keep working like one thing I did like about the offense yesterday were running that play where you know we would.
00:33:20
Lamar would take it kind of like it was like a Q B power type play.
00:33:24
He was like kinda Russian and then pitch it out to J. K. Dobbins.
00:33:27
We did that like two or three times and worked really, really well.
00:33:29
I thought that was a really good adjustment, but at the same time was I don't want to say I was like, too little, too late, But there's just a lot going on there.
00:33:38
Like Adams said, All in all, you have to find a way to maximize your person.
00:33:43
No, we do not do that a zoo, much as we should, and we need to get better with that.
00:33:47
If we wanna, you know, find any sort of success for the rest of the season and going into the postseason.
00:33:52
Mhm, Yeah, I definitely do with both takes here.
00:33:55
For the most part, it really comes down to part of that has to deal with Hollywood.
00:34:01
Brown's tweet about him not getting looks.
00:34:04
I understand how he feels.
00:34:06
Maybe you don't wanna go exactly social media to express that, but again, the guys young, he's gonna do something like that.
00:34:12
It's fine, but he wasn't wrong with what he said.
00:34:15
They're not really scheming well for the receivers and this comes down the Greg Roman.
00:34:20
His play calling is not creative when it comes to the run game, he's probably the best offensive coordinator at creating creative run schemes.
00:34:29
But with the past game, it's the same thing.
00:34:31
For the most part, it's not creative, and it's not scheming to get any receiver open or to put the ball in their hands.
00:34:38
And it comes down to the most thing that this offenses missing.
00:34:41
Where is the quick pass game? Where are the short passing games? We have speeded receivers in Duvernay and Hollywood Brown.
00:34:48
Why aren't we getting the ball in their hands and letting them take off? Why aren't there more screens here with J.
00:34:54
K.
00:34:55
Dobbins? Why are we not doing anything creative here? Everything is always trying to go down the field, vertical at some point. If defensive.
00:35:02
No, you're not going to throw in the short balls.
00:35:05
They're not gonna prepare for that.
00:35:06
They're just gonna back up their coverage and prepare for the deep ball, because that's always seem to be doing.
00:35:11
We put ourselves in these third and long situations because if the run doesn't work well, let's try and throw the ball down the field instead of your setting up something short, take the check down, run a screen or something like that.
00:35:21
You gotta be more creative with the skinny.
00:35:24
You gotta get your receivers more involved in the game you got.
00:35:27
One thing we got to say is, I know we want more talent at receivers, but I feel more importantly, we got to see the talent we drafted.
00:35:35
You've got a guy in Duvernay and another guy in pro Shea, which I really hope they try to get him into the offense because the guy got probably the best hands on the team.
00:35:44
But you've got talent here.
00:35:46
We're just not utilizing.
00:35:47
Maybe it would be nice toe.
00:35:49
Have another veteran receiver like a Julio Jones on this team.
00:35:53
But looking forward, you've drafted these two guys that have real talent, and Duvernay is actually making an impact when he's there.
00:36:01
Why aren't we getting the ball in his hands more? Why aren't we scheming for them? Ah, lot of this has to come on Greg, Roman and he himself.
00:36:08
He's got to be more creative with the passing game and one thing I'm scared to say is I'm not exactly sure if he can, because we've seen this in other areas, has been with San Francisco or Colin Kaepernick.
00:36:20
The passing game.
00:36:21
There wasn't really creative.
00:36:22
It's kind of followed him.
00:36:24
And that's probably one big reason why he's not going to get a head coaching job anytime soon.
00:36:27
Because, like, is this games? This just is not there.
00:36:31
I don't know why he's not, You know you got your specialties here and there.
00:36:35
But for the most part on offense, you've got to be creative all around.
00:36:39
I'm not asking Greg Roman to be the most creative offensive schemer all around, But with the passing game, you've got to be more creative and he's not.
00:36:48
You've got the person now you gotta know how to work it.
00:36:50
So I just feel like Greg woman.
00:36:52
For the most part, he's gonna have to get more creative, and he's gonna have toe try to scheme to get these receivers the ball more.
00:36:59
If you can't, this is gonna be a problem.
00:37:01
Let me let me let me ask you guys this thing.
00:37:03
So, like if we have like if the Ravens sound like the same sort of like struggles or issues for the rest of the season.
00:37:08
Like the passing game not being creative us not scheming open our personnel.
00:37:12
Do you think that it will more so fall on Greg Roman and will probably move on from him? Or do you think that people will just kind of look at it as like, Oh, Lamar's just not what we thought he was? What do you think the Ravens do in that situation? Okay, it's kind of a mix of both for the most part, because everyone's already looking at Lamar's performance this season as compared to last season.
00:37:31
So if it's not working out with the receivers as the quarterback, you're going to take a good chunk of that blame.
00:37:38
But I also feel like Greg Roman's also going to get the blame, because at some point people are starting to catch on that this guy schemes are the same.
00:37:45
I mean, going all the way back to the Cincinnati game.
00:37:48
I don't remember the line back who actually called out, and then this post game where you talked about Lamar is only throwing the two people, and that seems the only to be the only thing they're scheming for Yep, Mark Andrews in Hollywood Brown.
00:38:00
So we just focus on covering them and more defense is no, that's what we're doing is not just like we're going trying to spend trying to spread the ball around or anything.
00:38:10
But for the most part, it's kind of just targeting those two guys.
00:38:13
And if we continue to run this type of schemes where it's like, Oh, we always gotta look for Mark Andrews Part of that is gonna be on the Marr because he's on Lee looking for those guys.
00:38:21
They get everyone involved.
00:38:23
But part of that's gonna have to deal with scheme because you've got a bunch of other receivers that got talent, that you could scheme for it to get the ball in their hands and you're not doing that.
00:38:32
So I feel like it's gonna be kind of a mix of blame between the two.
00:38:36
But media wise, it's going to be more Lamar Jackson because he's the quarterback.
00:38:40
I don't see anyone talking about Greg Roman's involvement in this is definitely going to be Lamar Jackson with the media for in terms of the Ravens fan base and anyone that has actually been paying attention.
00:38:49
It's going to be a mix of Lamar and Greg. Roman.
00:38:53
Yep, I agree.
00:38:55
Can I ask that? Because I can.
00:38:56
I ask the panel of guys who were really centralized around the Ravens when you talk about because I went back to last year and looked at Lamar Jackson, relatively speaking, was he had 55 deep ball pass attempts last year on Li.
00:39:07
Two of them were intercepted, so was relatively successful.
00:39:11
Is deep looks and it was a relatively net neutral results.
00:39:14
It wasn't getting a lot of deep ball turnovers.
00:39:16
Are you? Are you seeing then? Still try to push that ball down the field this year? And if they're not doing that, maybe to the point of Greg Roman or just overall from a personnel standpoint, do you have to look at your wide receiver room and then maybe say, Well, what we're really more suited for here is toe have quality possession receivers as opposed to these deep threats, that if if we're not gonna we're reining in Lamar Jackson, then what's the value of having guys that could get downfield because again is your point.
00:39:42
It seems like keeping it riel that you're talking about? Well, he's holding on this couple of guys, and I happen to like Andrews at the tight end position, but we know these on a deep threat.
00:39:50
So you're talking about a quality possession guy.
00:39:52
How do you surround better chain moving guys? Because you're dynamic Playmaker is under center, and then even in the backfield, when you talk about these running back, so you know, reverse engineer this thing, if you're most dynamic players are, are there around the line of scrimmage, then just have the quality guys that you know can get you the 3rd and 7th, the 3rd and 8th to move these chains.
00:40:14
And it may be counterintuitive to say, the Baltimore Ravens offense should be thinking about being more possession based than dynamic big home run plays, whether from the quarterback's legs or through the air.
00:40:25
And just think about Hey, we got a quality defense.
00:40:27
What we want to do here is have nice 10 to 13 play drive to take a lot of clock and then ask the question of other offenses.
00:40:34
Can you move against our defense because you may only get 80% of league average possessions in a game against us.
00:40:41
So you're gonna lose one.
00:40:42
You're gonna get seven.
00:40:43
You're only getting six this game.
00:40:44
You're only getting five this game and you better convert when you get in the red zone.
00:40:47
Because if not, you may not see that ball again.
00:40:50
That's just the dynamic that I always wonder about when the Ravens have been.
00:40:54
Historically, you hang your hat on defense first and expect the offense to just be consistent for you.
00:41:00
Yeah, no, that's a great point.
00:41:02
And that's something that we were actually, I'm gonna bring in my guy Lawrenson real quick cause he's in the waiting room.
00:41:07
But we were kind of expecting for Miles Boykin to kind of turn into that possession style.
00:41:13
You know, move the chains receiver and he hasn't really been that right. He's kind of been a disappointment.
00:41:18
Hey, had a decent game yesterday against the Steelers, you know, he had that nice touchdown grab it after after the pick six there, but yeah, it's something that I've been saying.
00:41:28
You guys know the type of receivers I like those big bodied physical possession receivers that I wanted us to have.
00:41:34
I wasn't the biggest Hollywood Brown fan before the draft, Um, as most of you guys know.
00:41:40
But you know, I I like the dynamic that he brought to our offense last season because the running game was so terrifying.
00:41:47
Hollywood was that extra threat that you had to worry about that deep threat, that speedy receiver that's able to get open on the outside, and it just hasn't really been working as much.
00:41:57
Uh, this season, and I think a big reason for that is because now we only are down to two tight ends instead of the three tight end sets that we used to run last season.
00:42:05
So just a lot of factors.
00:42:06
But yeah, that's That's definitely a great point there, Adam about maybe that the way the offense is built also has a little bit to do with some of the struggles there.
00:42:15
But let's bring in my guy Laurence Lawrence.
00:42:18
What's up, man? And he's actually a fan of the Indianapolis Colts.
00:42:23
You are getting us after we're coming for our revenge, man.
00:42:26
This is gonna be a revenge game on the Colts.
00:42:29
No, but seriously, we have about 200 people in here, man.
00:42:32
Don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe to every single one that you see here, please.
00:42:37
But we're gonna go for about 10 more minutes Here, fellas.
00:42:40
Lawrence, give me your quick summary.
00:42:43
Man, you got to watch the game.
00:42:45
I'm assuming What? How did you feel? Because I mentioned it earlier.
00:42:48
I thought the Ravens dominated for the most part.
00:42:51
If just one or two things go our way, we probably would have won this game.
00:42:55
We should have won that game, but the Steelers ended up winning.
00:42:58
So, Lawrence, let's hear your thoughts.
00:43:00
And then I'm gonna get to the Super Chest.
00:43:02
Alright? So first off, when I was going back out, so I wanted to wait for the actual 22 to drop so I could see it, but yeah, they don't drop till tomorrow.
00:43:13
So I had to go over the game on regular game film for I don't know, two or three times.
00:43:18
And to me, it seemed like Lamar Jackson.
00:43:21
Yes, he was a problem.
00:43:24
But I'm wondering why he felt as though he was hurried every time he ended up getting the football and had to throw the football because from what I was seeing Lamar didn't seem like he was comfortable in that pocket at that time.
00:43:39
Every time he stepped back, he was not comfortable And that I think that has a lot to do with not only the Steelers, you know, knowing that the Steelers was coming in.
00:43:50
But it seemed like there was like, he wasn't comfortable with the protection around him as well.
00:43:56
You know what I'm saying? So that that was an issue that I was seeing a lot of in that game last night was you could almost feel it was almost palpable with with how he was standing in the pocket.
00:44:07
He was very jittery with the football.
00:44:09
Like he needed to get rid of that football, couldn't wait to get rid of it.
00:44:13
And then when it didn't happen, because he, you know, was going through his progressions because here's the thing you were talking about earlier, keeping it riel.
00:44:21
You were talking about this scheming and going on one or two people, right? And a lot of Greg Roman situation.
00:44:29
And man, I've seen that as well.
00:44:33
But when the guy, when when your first read is not open, it was almost like he was freaking out.
00:44:40
Yeah, like like when? When that guy was not open, he could not throw it to him.
00:44:45
It was almost like, Oh, my gosh, what do I do now? And that's kind of really worries me long term.
00:44:52
Because if your quarterback gets really jittery when his first or second read that the play is scheme to get rid of, the football is not open and you start to get really jittery and you watch this feat.
00:45:07
They get really happy.
00:45:08
And that is a tale tale.
00:45:10
Time immediately for any quarterback of wanting to get rid of that.
00:45:14
Football don't wanna be sitting in that pocket.
00:45:17
Yeah, great.
00:45:18
Great point there.
00:45:19
Hold on. Let me get to the Super Chats.
00:45:21
And we could react to that.
00:45:22
J. Bronson.
00:45:23
Thank you for the donation.
00:45:24
He says.
00:45:25
Maybe if you all actually had quarterback instead of a glorified running back, y'all would have one very, very good comment there adds to the conversation.
00:45:34
Very well.
00:45:35
Thank you for that, Mr Goon.
00:45:37
Thank you for the donation.
00:45:39
He says Mr Gonna Grease Lamar is a glorified running back.
00:45:43
Very nice.
00:45:44
So we're now talking to the third person, apparently Okay, so thank you, guys, for your donations.
00:45:49
I appreciate that, but I don't appreciate your comments, but anyway, yeah, uh, in a way, like, I feel like Lamar, Dude, like, he did lose this that game.
00:46:00
And if it was just like, somebody that could manage the game and didn't throw didn't turn the football over, I think we would have won that game, right? So I'm not at all trying to say that.
00:46:11
Oh, if we would have had, like, another quarterback, we would have won that game.
00:46:15
But I think there is some truth to that, because those interceptions just killed us.
00:46:19
That fumble killed us like just the turnovers killed.
00:46:22
Put that blame of that fumble on Lamar, though.
00:46:25
I mean, it was really quick it was he should have seen.
00:46:28
But Dupri, though at a corner, that that's the problem, you know? So you're tackles are supposed to be able to protect your behind, uh, on speed rushers.
00:46:39
That's that's the whole idea is to push them out wide behind the quarterback.
00:46:43
So the quarterback and step up.
00:46:44
And if you watch, Lamar does step up in that quarter into that pocket to throw the football and he did the right thing.
00:46:52
And doing that do pre made an amazing, an amazing move off how he bet and got in there and got that arm and swatted it down.
00:47:00
I give that MAWR to a fantastic defensive play than any mist ake that Lamar did on that.
00:47:06
Now those those interceptions, on the other hand, yeah, I'm gonna drop those on Lamar.
00:47:11
Oh, yeah. No defending those straight.
00:47:14
You know what? You know what? I think that I mean, that's a good point.
00:47:17
And I think that, like, that fumble, because what quarter did that fumble happened? Like second quarter? Yeah.
00:47:22
I believe I believe you there, second quarter.
00:47:24
And I know this is kind of like a fitting for, like, the whole holiday season, but I feel like that fumble that play.
00:47:28
It kind of haunted Lamar and I know we just got done with Halloween that haunted him for the rest of the game because, like Lawrence was saying, like, he had happy feet for a lot of the game.
00:47:37
And that happens when you play a defense like the Steelers, who they're bringing pressure off the edges.
00:47:41
So the right they're trying to set the edge so the mark cannot go left.
00:47:43
He cannot go right.
00:47:44
He knows people gonna be coming around behind him.
00:47:47
That's why when he steps up, he's getting happy feet.
00:47:49
He doesn't see his first read open.
00:47:50
He doesn't see his second read open.
00:47:52
He sees a linebacker spying on him.
00:47:53
T J Watt, you know, But he knows that people are behind him, so he knows he's hot.
00:47:57
And a lot of that has to deal with, Of course, us losing Ronnie Stanley, of course, on Ben.
00:48:02
We even had to bring Orlando Brown put him on the left side because Fluker just was not cutting it.
00:48:07
But he ended up playing, you know better.
00:48:09
But like I said, like you said, it was a good point.
00:48:12
He was.
00:48:13
He was hot in that in that situation, and he fumbled.
00:48:15
He fumbled the ball and that from the rest of the game, like he kind of was just kind of. He was uncomfortable.
00:48:20
He was very uncomfortable with, like, standing in the pocket and, you know, making those reason like delivering throws.
00:48:24
So we're going forward.
00:48:26
We just need to, of course, like trying to bolster down that offensive line as much as we can.
00:48:30
I see is probably making a move before the trade deadline, getting somebody or something on on that offensive line just so we could have some sort of, like, you know, some sort of help down there.
00:48:38
But that's a good point, Lawrence.
00:48:41
Yep, let's let's bring in my guy Ravens.
00:48:43
See to give his thoughts.
00:48:45
What's up, Ravens? See? How you doing, man? What's going on? Oh, man, I had I had to jump on.
00:48:49
Yeah, we're looking like y'all having too much fun on you already know bad.
00:48:53
So we're gonna close out in a little bit in about five minutes.
00:48:56
Let me get to the super chat first, and then Ravens see, we'll get your thoughts on yesterday's game, man, and then closing.
00:49:01
Closing perspectives here.
00:49:04
My guy William Trigger finger roof.
00:49:06
Oh, or rough.
00:49:07
Oh, I don't know how to say that name.
00:49:08
Sorry. He says, Come on, Nubes, You can't lie.
00:49:10
Lamar did look like a whole running back yesterday.
00:49:14
That doesn't mean we should dump him, of course.
00:49:16
But he looked bad.
00:49:18
I wouldn't go that far to call him a running back.
00:49:20
But I will say he did look bad.
00:49:22
Eso alright, Ravens See, Let's hear your thoughts about yesterday's game, man.
00:49:27
Let's let's get some positivity.
00:49:29
Let's try. Let's try to be positive.
00:49:31
E got to talk about the running back situation.
00:49:33
I did not know.
00:49:34
Throughout my 35 years of living, I never seen a running back leader league and passing last year.
00:49:42
And when the m v p true, I've never seen that.
00:49:47
That's a great point, Lamar.
00:49:50
The game yesterday he did play bad.
00:49:53
Um, even like in my reaction videos.
00:49:56
Like keeping it real.
00:49:57
You said it when he threw that pick.
00:50:00
I knew he was going to do something in that game bad, but I didn't expect it that early.
00:50:05
Yeah, and then on the past two, I believe you.
00:50:09
He was throwing to a Porsche and he was clearly covered.
00:50:15
Yep.
00:50:16
And that's what really irritated me that he was really covered.
00:50:19
And I'm like, Dude, who are you throwing too? Because it was no way he was gonna get that ball.
00:50:27
That was terrible.
00:50:28
No way you could defend that.
00:50:29
And then on Lee Yeah, I just got to speaking about where he fumbled.
00:50:34
Hey, pump faked where he moved the ball from Bud.
00:50:40
Then he kind of like, Hesitate toe, throw it.
00:50:42
That's when Bud hit it.
00:50:44
And I'm like, Why you pump faking when you just dodge that pressure? I still don't understand that.
00:50:52
It's like which I said earlier.
00:50:54
He cannot hesitated.
00:50:55
This year, he's hesitating.
00:50:57
Last year, he was going for the throat.
00:51:01
100 difference.
00:51:02
I'm not 100% sure, exactly.
00:51:03
See, that's why I wanted to wait for that old 22 to come out so I could see the entire field.
00:51:09
But he might have been trying to get a safety off a receiver so that he could throw that open spot to ah to ah, receiver or a tight end or something.
00:51:20
And that's what I mean.
00:51:21
That's what used to pump fakes for.
00:51:23
But that pump fake was quick, but he was stepping forward as he pump faked, so I still feel that his pocket movement was okay on that play.
00:51:35
It's just dip pre made a really good play there, though.
00:51:39
Mhm.
00:51:40
All right, fair enough.
00:51:41
Well, I wish we could go longer, guys, but I know we have to get get out of here.
00:51:45
So one thing I will say men, you know, we're five and two.
00:51:49
It's not over yet.
00:51:50
I'll take you guys back to the 2018 season, Lamar's rookie season.
00:51:55
There was a team that was sitting at seven and two.
00:51:58
They were flying high.
00:52:00
They were sitting pretty.
00:52:01
They're like, Oh, we got the A F C North in the bag.
00:52:04
That was the Pittsburgh Steelers, and there was the lowly second place Ravens, sitting at four and five after three losses in a row.
00:52:12
Absolutely no way.
00:52:14
We're coming back.
00:52:15
And then what happens? The Ravens come back, go 10 and six and win the A F C North.
00:52:21
So I know it sounds ridiculous right now.
00:52:24
The Steelers just beat us there at 70 They're probably going to continue to win a lot of games, but we're not out of it just yet.
00:52:31
I know it's it's, you know, it's doom and gloom, but we have a rematch on Thanksgiving.
00:52:36
Let's try to win that game and let's just try to continue to win games.
00:52:40
I know it's gonna be tough.
00:52:41
We don't have Marlon Humphrey for this game against the Colts.
00:52:44
We don't have Ronnie Stanley for the rest of the season.
00:52:47
But if we could just rely on the defense, rely on the running game, do what we've always done, then you never know.
00:52:54
You know things can turn around, but that's that's kind of what I wanted to say.
00:52:59
May I have a closing statement? Sure.
00:53:02
I just want to say this. Alright.
00:53:04
First off, I can't wait to break the Ravens Ravens game down with the Colts this week.
00:53:08
But, man, for everyone watching this, if you're a Ravens fan, I get this.
00:53:13
Lost sucks.
00:53:15
But you got to remember as badly as Lamar Jackson look as many drops and and stuff that that has happened over the last few weeks.
00:53:24
This game against the Steelers, you played, Ah, very, very good defense.
00:53:28
Your quarterback did not play nearly as good as he can.
00:53:33
And yet, still, somehow you found yourself in the game with a chance to win it late.
00:53:38
E would not take this as a as a completely bad situation.
00:53:42
Ah, lot of bad things happen in this game.
00:53:45
You should have won this game.
00:53:47
Yeah, without any question.
00:53:49
So I like you said man, Just because you're sitting there with two losses on the season.
00:53:54
Don't look down because, uh, if Lamar and the rest of this offense can get some things figured out a little bit, like you were saying earlier about maybe getting an extra offensive linemen because I think that is something that is that is desperately needed.
00:54:07
Get a few things fixed.
00:54:09
This Ravens team's gonna be right back to being what they was last year, and that's being dangerous, dangerous, dangerous, Absolutely.
00:54:16
And go ahead.
00:54:18
Go ahead.
00:54:19
I was gonna say, like in my closing statements, I think that, like like Lauren said, the Ravens will be fine.
00:54:24
I feel like we get a couple extra pieces.
00:54:26
But what? I also think that what we need to do is we need to win the game.
00:54:31
However, we can win the game.
00:54:33
So don't try to put all of the pressure on Lamar Jackson to go out and win the game.
00:54:38
Like I said earlier, third quarter starts were up 10 points.
00:54:41
Why are we still putting the ball in Lamar Jackson's hands to go and play hero ball at that point? J. K.
00:54:46
Dobbins and Gus Edwards have over 100 yards combined total rushing against the number one rushing defense in the NFL.
00:54:52
So it's like we have to win the game.
00:54:54
How we can.
00:54:55
So I think the silver lining from it was gusting.
00:54:57
J K.
00:54:58
They're really good as the 12 punch.
00:54:59
Like keeping it real with saying earlier.
00:55:00
So I think going forward if we utilize them or and you know, I hate to say it, but Mark Ingram he's gonna be gone, you know? And I hate that for us mentally wise.
00:55:11
But in terms of, like, skill on the field, Gus and J K R R guys going forward.
00:55:16
And I would love to see more of them going on for the rest of the season.
00:55:20
Absolutely agree.
00:55:21
Luke.
00:55:22
Thank you for the donation, man.
00:55:23
He says fax the closing statement.
00:55:25
Appreciate that s o anyone else? Go ahead.
00:55:28
Feel free to throw out the closing statement.
00:55:30
Men were all giving our own.
00:55:31
Yeah, I guess I'll give one for before I start.
00:55:34
Joe, I love how you brought up that the same situation we were in in 2018 because I had to steal a fan.
00:55:39
Tell me the exact same thing yesterday They're like, Oh, man, now that we've beaten you guys, we've got the division and I was like, You do remember in 2018 we were in the same situation.
00:55:48
When you guys beat us, you were up and then we came back in the A F C North.
00:55:53
As long as it's competitive, no one wins the crown until it's official, so it's still competing.
00:55:59
But overall we're five and two in the season.
00:56:03
Obviously, there are a lot of problems on the team that we want to fix.
00:56:06
But to be five and two, despite all these issues, you gotta be happy with the results.
00:56:11
You know, for the most part, we do know we got a lot of problems we gotta fix, but we're going to be fine.
00:56:16
It's going to take some time.
00:56:18
The offensive at some point is going to need to get better and I believe it will improve defensive wise when they're healthy.
00:56:25
There's nothing really to worry about.
00:56:26
In fact, adding unique hasn't made it better and over time that front seven is going to be better.
00:56:32
But offensively, you know, we just gotta find a way to get the guys the rhythm.
00:56:37
The play calling gotta be better, which I hope will improve over time, and we got to see what we have.
00:56:43
For the most part, I think they're starting to turn that way because I believe I saw a report from like Jeff when he was showing Jeff's Arabic who you guys know him.
00:56:52
He was showing the report of the snaps that was taken, and J K got like, twice the amount of snaps that Gus got.
00:56:59
So it looks like the Ravens are kind of moving forward to try and give him more snaps moving forward.
00:57:03
And it seems to work in this game.
00:57:05
Also, Duvernay actually got a lot more snaps than we expect to have more snaps than Boykin.
00:57:09
So it seems they're trying to get him more involved.
00:57:12
So I believe this is going to be a process.
00:57:14
Ravens fans, We're gonna have to be patient for the most part as they try to figure out what they're gonna do in this offense.
00:57:19
I don't know if they're going to get any additional pieces to fit like another weapon, but if they don't, we're gonna have to work with what we have.
00:57:26
So for the most part is gonna take some time.
00:57:29
They got a lot to work out.
00:57:30
It's got a lot of things to improve on, but we got nine games to fix it.
00:57:35
It's only half the season way.
00:57:37
We got nine games to fix it.
00:57:39
We'll see where we are at the end of the season right now, sitting at five and two, we should be happy.
00:57:44
But we shouldn't settle for issues.
00:57:46
Yep, absolutely.
00:57:48
Alright.
00:57:49
Ravens see anything? The admin, and then we're going to get out.
00:57:51
Get on out of here pretty much.
00:57:53
Said it best.
00:57:54
I'm just for the Steeler fans That's continually parading like they want a Super Bowl.
00:57:58
I'm just waiting Thanksgiving and plus E can't wait high looking.
00:58:05
There is a possibility we can see them in the playoffs.
00:58:08
That will be funny.
00:58:09
The more first playoff win would knock the Steelers out.
00:58:12
That was that was recently on E.
00:58:16
That would be the Twitter.
00:58:18
Uh, no.
00:58:19
But Matt Magnin Thank you for the donation, man.
00:58:21
He says when I think of Collins and Crabtree with us, I laugh out loud.
00:58:25
Oh, bro, man, that was Yeah, It could be worse, I guess In a way, so All right.
00:58:29
I want to thank everybody that joined us today.
00:58:31
Men also shout out to my guy Adam, who was here earlier.
00:58:34
He had to dip out a little bit early.
00:58:35
Make sure you guys follow him on SportsCastr Adam armed Brecht and Lawrence will let you tell the people where they can find you because I know you have to get out of here.
00:58:43
So, Lawrence, let them know your YouTube channel, social media, all that.
00:58:47
Oh, man.
00:58:48
I'm Lawrence O on on YouTube.
00:58:50
SportsCastr, obviously Lawrence O in NFL.
00:58:53
And, uh, Colts underscore law on Twitter and Instagram.
00:58:58
So it's really easy to find me.
00:59:00
Uh, generally, you could just type in Lawrence going anywhere and find me.
00:59:04
So there you go.
00:59:05
And we're gonna have you back Lawrence a little later in the week because we got a preview.
00:59:09
Are our upcoming game there in Indy? So Yeah, What That you'll be online to? Yeah. All right.
00:59:15
All right.
00:59:16
Thank you for joining men.
00:59:18
Alright, sudden death.
00:59:19
Let the people know where they confined you. That man.
00:59:22
Yes, sir.
00:59:23
Like Joseph, I'm sudden death.
00:59:25
You can find me on Twitter or Instagram or you can just google sudden death.
00:59:28
I'll show up.
00:59:29
You know, in most cases, um, there is a new Ravens podcast on the way featuring myself and Alex simply a s 10.
00:59:35
The one who makes all the hype videos, the nice videos and stuff like that. We talked about that.
00:59:39
So that is on the way.
00:59:40
Be on the lookout for that.
00:59:41
But other than that, Ravens fans just stay up. Stay safe, man.
00:59:44
I'll catch you guys in the next one for sure, man.
00:59:47
All right, Next up, Ravens.
00:59:48
See, Let the people know where they confined you at just pretty much as you told me.
00:59:53
Or even see You will see my reactions.
00:59:56
That got a lot of use yesterday.
00:59:58
A lot of haters.
01:00:00
A lot of people love thio with comments.
01:00:03
Sector was crazy.
01:00:04
Also, you can hit me up on Twitter.
01:00:06
Anything like that.
01:00:08
Keeping it riel, Joe.
01:00:09
Thanks, everybody.
01:00:10
Stay safe. Where? Your mask.
01:00:12
Have a good one. Yeah.
01:00:14
All right, man.
01:00:15
So all right, keeping it really is.
01:00:16
Well, let the people know where they can find you at All, right.
01:00:19
You could find me here on YouTube.
01:00:21
YouTube name, keeping it really you know, we give sports takes.
01:00:24
I do recaps.
01:00:25
I do reaction to the games, and we just try to have fun here.
01:00:27
We give some real talk about sports, and we try to have fun as much as we can.
01:00:31
You can also find me on Twitter as keeping it real is well.
01:00:33
But for the most part, I'm just here on YouTube doing my thing.
01:00:36
So thanks for having me, Joe.
01:00:37
This was fun.
01:00:38
Absolutely, man. Thanks for coming on.
01:00:40
All right, fellas, make sure you guys subscribed.
01:00:42
All those guys that joined me on the podcast today.
01:00:45
We had a great therapy session.
01:00:47
I think I hope that you guys come out of it feeling a lot better.
01:00:50
Yes.
01:00:51
You know, the sky feels like it's falling.
01:00:52
A lot of things were going wrong.
01:00:54
However, a lot of things could go right.
01:00:56
The season's not over yet.
01:00:58
We're still five and two.
01:01:00
We're still in contention.
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