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Welcome back to my SportsCastr and Twitter Chan er, Twitter, Twitter Channel.
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Wherever you are watching.
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Just ****ed up from the start. That's amazing.
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My name is Kevin Reyes From the breakdown today we come back with the continuation off.
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If I was a GM the Siri's where me and my guests pretend we are the general manager of an MBA team and fill out the roster make player oriented decisions coach or into decisions, whatever decisions we want to talk about.
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First episode.
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What's with Wreck? What's with Rex? Talking about the Philadelphia 70 Sixers? And now, in the second episode, I am joined by my good friend Stephen Carlson to talk about his Chicago Bulls.
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Stephen, what's going on, my man? Not much.
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You know.
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You know, I've been saying we're gonna be good for the past couple of years.
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We haven't been, but I'm gonna fix that tonight.
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I'm tired of waiting on all these other people to fix that.
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I got it right now.
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Well, we're both going to try to fix them.
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I got the hoody off Bulls legend Dwyane Wade.
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You know, the last time they were, they were good.
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They made the playoffs.
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But before we talk about the bulls, um, I talked about this with Rex on the previous edition.
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These Siri's might not go along all depending on what happens with the MBA off season.
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Um, on Tuesday, it was reported that the n B.
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A wanted to start on December 22nd.
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Recently, it came out that the um M V p. A.
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Notably stars and most players want to start the league on January 18 which is Martin Luther King Day.
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They say the negotiations are gonna take a long time.
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They're gonna, you know, not rush into a decision.
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Obviously, you need to figure out when the season is going to start, how much the salary cap is gonna be when it's the free agency gonna be, You know, they have to figure out all those things.
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Michelle Roberts, the M V p executive director, heavily criticized the decision to start so early again, there's obviously pros and cons to wherever they they want to start.
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But what are your thoughts on that, Stephen? The fact that the MBA wants to start on December 22nd and then on, uh, the MBA players want to start on January team kind of give your thoughts on that.
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And then if you want a prediction on or your thoughts on, when do you think is the best day to start? So, I mean, I could see it from both sides, like you could see it with the MBA.
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They started losing ratings once they had to compete with football so they don't want to start too late and run into the same problem, having to compete against football again.
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But obviously the players feel like they need more of an offseason.
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Then they're going to get if it starts on December 22nd.
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So I think in the end they're probably gonna shorten the season a little bit.
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Maybe by like, 10 games or something like that, and then they'll try to come together on a date and have it start mawr the first week of January instead of towards the end of January.
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But I definitely don't think December 20 seconds happening.
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I think we'll see it like right around the beginning of 2021.
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Yeah, I feel like the most realistic thing and I talked about.
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I talked about this with Rex.
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I feel like the most realistic thing is like a mid January to late January.
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Start away shorter season.
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They obviously lose tons of money.
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I saw like a graphic on how much money players would losing their yearly salary this year and that's a lot of money.
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So I much rather like if I'm the players and even if I'm a fan, I would much rather have them start later and have, like a somewhat normal off season, have a training camp.
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You're probably not gonna have a preseason, but at least have a training camp.
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Have teams, you know, be able to play together and got to get to know each other before the rial basketball starts.
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And then, obviously, the main thing here with all start dates is that they wanna end before the Summer Olympics, which are on July on 2021.
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Obviously, they don't get the Stone again and whatnot.
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But that's obviously the main thing.
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I feel like the likeliest scenario because players aren't gonna budge.
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You know how much money they're gonna lose or how much the MBA pressures them.
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Players aren't gonna budge.
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We're probably not going to get an agreement anytime soon on start dates, on salary cap or on free agency, even though the draft is right around the corner.
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Um, I feel like the likely scenarios.
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I said mid January to late January start have, like, a 50 something game, regular season, have it and on around have the playoffs and then around June or the start of July, and then you could still send stars to the Olympics if they want it.
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Um, but okay, now, getting into what we came here to Dio, which are the Chicago Bulls.
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Chicago.
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The last time they were good, as I said there with Dwyane Wade with the services of Dwyane Wade, Jimmy Butler and Radio Rondo, the last time they made the playoffs was in that year, 2016 2017.
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They lost in the first round to the Boston Celtics in six games.
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They won the first two and then lost four straight.
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And the last three seasons, it's been no playoffs for Chicago.
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It's been, I wouldn't say, a steady rebuilt because it's been really messed up.
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Rebuilt. You started off with Fred Hoiberg.
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Things went downhill.
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They got Jim Boylan.
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Things did not go back up from there.
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Now you look to start something with Billy Donovan, who can, Who comes from coaching? Um, the Oklahoma City Thunder had a lot of success there, and now we get into this year where the Bulls have a top five pick in the NBA draft.
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They still have sack Levin Lowry marketing Kobe White.
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Kris Dunn is a free agent window.
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Carter Jr They still have their young core set.
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They got a solid coach.
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They got some new guys in their front office.
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But before we get into what they're gonna do this off season, Stephen, your A Bulls fan, Give me your thoughts on the team these past couple of years.
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What have you seen? Whatever you haven't seen.
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What are your thoughts on them? Well, I mean, I was excited to watch them coming into this year.
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I knew the last two years after we lost Jimmy and Dwayne and Rondo like those guys were all veterans enough and established enough that I knew we'd be competitive.
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But once we lost them, the team was too young.
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There wasn't enough, enough enough depth.
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And, uh, like I knew those were the years where we had to rebuild.
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And then when our draft picks fell in the lottery and down to seven all three years each of the past three years, that was when I was like, Well, it's gonna take a little bit more time, Which is why I love the signing of Billy Donovan.
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I just think he's a I think he's a really good coach for young players because, like coming from Florida and then seeing what he did in Oklahoma City once they lost.
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Like Westbrook and Durant, he's just He's good at building teams and he has a good offense for that, which is, I think gonna be.
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Our biggest thing is we need to develop more of a consistent offense.
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Last year we ranked 27th in offense.
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It was somewhere around that really is.
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It was really like I thought the defense was bad last year, but we were still 12th and defensive rating.
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But coming in 27th out of 30 teams in offensive rating like I know we have the scores to be a good offense is just getting somebody who can run a good offense, which is what boiling was not good at boiling.
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Just wanted to be ah, ****in oil and just wanted to be like the type of guy who is not going to take **** from anybody and just trying to preach defense, which was not going to help this team, right? I that I like what they're building.
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I'm gonna like ITM or after the draft, I hope, um but I mean, I'm excited to see what happens, And I think last year this team had enough talent to be in the bottom of the playoffs, like a seven or an eight seed.
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So I can see going into this year with another good piece from the draft, then getting up in, probably passing the magic or being in that area.
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Well, hm, yeah, that's That's my thing with the Bulls These past years, it's been the Jim Boylan experience.
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Basically, I'm a lot of people want to talk about whether he's a good coach or he's a bad coach or whatnot, but that's a relevant to me.
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The main thing you need as a head coach is for your players toe like you.
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And it was clear from like after the first two weeks in Chicago that the young guys just didn't connect with Boiling.
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And it wasn't a good relationship.
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And no matter how good a coach Jim Boylan waas, it wasn't gonna work.
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And I like Billy Donovan.
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In my opinion, I don't think he's, you know, proven.
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That's let me see how I can phrase this.
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He hasn't proven to me he can win.
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Like um, he hasn't proven he can be the main reason why he's teams and winning.
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Obviously, when he came in in 2016 he had K D and Ross.
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He still had Russ.
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And then last year, I feel like that was more of a CP three thing rather than a Billy Donovan thing.
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No, no credit taken away from him like he's a great coach and he's good with with young guys clearly because something worked in O.
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K. C besides Chris Paul.
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But I feel like this is the perfect stage for him to prove just how good of a coach he is.
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And they still got a young core.
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I agree with you totally.
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The talent that team has is too much to not be in the playoffs.
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You obviously look at the top of the East, you still have Milwaukee.
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You still have Toronto, Boston, Miami, Philly and Brooklyn is coming now, with Katie and Kyrie healthy.
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But then there's like 3 to 2 spots that are free for the taking.
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Um, then there's a couple of young teens in the East that didn't make the playoffs this past season that are going to make a push to make the playoffs this year.
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And, you know, see what happens when they get to that to that stage.
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But the thing with Chicago also has been injuries like that.
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Young core has been injured, literally every single one of them.
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Otto Porter, who they acquired was a huge player option in this off season, which will get Thio.
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He's been hurt since getting to Chicago.
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Sack Levin has been notorious for getting hurt.
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Lowry marketing has gotten her in the last year he played light garbage.
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He did not improve at all and then window Carter Jr He has so much potential.
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But then he's also always heard that Kristen is also, uh, missed a couple of times and just not been miss utilized, um, with boiling.
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So that's their situation in the past couple of years, But now, heading into this offseason, you're obviously still in a rebuild like they're still in a rebuild.
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Let's be completely honest, but taking into considers, we just mentioned there's 2 to 3 spots in the East that are free for the taking in the playoffs.
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The bulls can continue the rebuilt, but then also add pieces.
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As you said, one of them, the draft pick the number four pick.
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They could still make a push for the playoffs.
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So in terms of you know, their mindset heading into this offseason, is it more about continuing to rebuild? Or is it more about? Okay, let's let's see if we can make a push.
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Let's see if we could make a push to the playoffs and yeah, I'll see if we can take a game or two from our first round opponent.
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Yeah, that's what right My my thought would be Thio.
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Trade one of our better players this year to a bad team who needs it, Or maybe not a bad team, but a team that thinks they're on the cost, maybe a team like Charlotte who has a pick right in front of us.
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But if we trade them, somebody like pretty good and we can get a future first when I don't think anybody from the Bulls is gonna make or break a team like that, then we can add depth usar pick this year, still have a solid core and, uh, be ableto try to go for it a little bit more.
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We'll still knowing that we have a future first round pick that we can use in the lottery if we still end up being Maurin a rebuild than a contending type state.
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Yeah, so they have that Number four pick.
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Um, they can use it. They could trade.
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There's been rumors about them trading up, but for this upcoming section, this is what defines the If I was a GM, Siri's the decision section.
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So we did this with Rex.
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We're gonna do this on every single one of these additions.
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And if you weren't around, this is how it goes.
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My guest and I in this case, Stephen will go through the 3 to 5.
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Or it could be more. Could be less decisions.
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We would make the main decisions.
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Obviously, not every single thing we would dio has the general manager of said team in this case, the Chicago Bulls.
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The guests will go first, so Stephen will say his decision.
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We'll give as much background information or context.
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He feels necessary to justify his decision.
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And then after that, I'll give my thoughts on it and kind of answer back and forth on that a little bit.
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Then I'll go into my decision.
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I'll give us much background information is context and I feel necessary.
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Stephen will give his thoughts like advancer, and then we'll go back and forth for instant repeat until we're both done with our decision.
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So, Steven, you are the guest.
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You go first again for the people watching.
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This is us using our imagination.
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Most of these aren't going toe happen, but we can dream.
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So, Stephen, kick us off with your description.
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All right? I think my first real question is do we wanna alternate or do you want me to give all mine and then you give you give your first we give a thought? Yeah, we alternate. Okay.
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Sounds good.
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So my first one is what I want to do.
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Our part of what I want to do in the draft this year.
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I don't I don't want to trade up because I saw that with I'm gonna go to football for just a second here.
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I don't want I don't like having a top five pick.
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And then only kind of like you're giving up a good asset in a solid player, and then you have to give up your first round pick to move up one or two spots.
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I don't like doing that, so I think if we can get Lamela's Balto Fall to us.
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I like that because he's a guy who can make plain.
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Even though people don't think of him as a good defensive player, he will add, He will make it easier for the team to play defense, because when you have a lot of long athletic guys, you can play like you can switch, pick and roll so much easier.
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You can play more position list defense.
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Like if the metal ball is not a great defender, you can hide them on like a shooting guard or a small forward who might not be another team's best shooter because he's 67 So I would really like drafting him at four, if I could.
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Um, but if not, I think our biggest need right now is a true point guard.
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So just at the number four pick, I would love to see us take, if not the mellow ball.
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I think Pirates Halliburton would be a very good pickup for us because he rebounds the ball is the point guard.
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He averaged 6.
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5 assists last year at Iowa State.
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Um, he's just somebody who can help initiate the offense because as of right now, we don't have that type of player like Kobe.
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White wants to shoot first.
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Zach Lavine wants to shoot first.
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Chris Dunn is always gonna be defensive minded, and he's never even when he has the ball on offense.
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I don't know if he's looking to create for others, so I think one of those two guys would help open up the floor for our other four players.
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That's where I think our biggest need is on the team, like I'll be so mad if they take like an OBE topping or I don't know who else is around there like even like a Patrick Williams.
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Like I know Patrick Williams is crazy, athletic, and Otto Porter's our oldest starter in the starting five, and he would make us a lot younger with, like a truly good, small forward.
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But I think we need a point guard most in the draft, Okay, so I'm not gonna talk too much on that because my draft decision is my second decision, So I'm kinda.
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I'll kind of give my thoughts on on your draft decision when I get to my but my first decision, my first order of business as the general manager of the Chicago Bulls would be to keep a guy.
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It's terms of resigning.
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I would keep a guy you just mentioned at all costs, and that is Kristen.
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Like I love Chris Don.
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This defense is amazing.
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You know, There weren't if you weren't in Chicago, he would be in all MBA Defender last year, like that's how good he was on defense last season.
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And Jim Boylan had him like the sixth or seventh man playing behind Kobe White and Thomas Oseransky, which is just awful.
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Kristen is blooming with talent.
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The dude is on Lee, 26 his first couple of years in Minnesota.
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It started.
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Minnesota wasn't that good, but offensively, he's gotten better.
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His decision making has gotten better and his defense is second to none.
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He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league.
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It might be in here right now, so he's a He's a restricted free agent heading into um, this off season and then the other.
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The other three free agents you have besides Cruise done our Otto Porter Jr was a player option, can't do much there and then then sell Ballantine and shock Harrison Shaquille Harrison are also restricted free agents, so I would look, I don't honestly love to keep them both.
00:19:07
Um, Ballantine, when he's healthy, has been a really solid, uh, to weigh all around player.
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And as a wing player, I feel like he really complements everyone around pretty well.
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He's not a playmaker, but he's also not like a score type, not score first type player.
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He can basically do it all.
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And I really like him coming off the bench and then shat cares.
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And he's impersonal Point guard.
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He's, uh, he's got long arms.
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He's totally 64 So I also like him for his versatility.
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So first order of business will be to keep all three restricted free agents Chris done then.
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So Ballantine and Shock Harrison.
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Yeah, that's I mean, I don't disagree with you at all on Cristian because Chris done.
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He grew up in the same town as my cousins in New London from my home state, Connecticut.
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I've literally played basketball against this kid, just like in a park in New London.
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I know how good he is on defense, because I know that, um but I got on My biggest worry with these shortened seasons is gonna be how it affects the salary cap.
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So I do on Lee.
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Want to keep them? If it's on a favorable deal to the Bulls like I don't want them paying them more than, like 10 $12 million.
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Because even though Chris Done is gonna be serviceable, he'll be fine.
00:20:28
Kobe White does have a lot more potential as like a really good like star player than Chris done.
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So I don't want us Thio kind of handcuff us.
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Handcuff ourselves salary cap wise, paying him too much money to be a guy who, when best served, will be like the defensive sixth man coming off the bench.
00:20:46
Um, I definitely agree with you.
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He should start over Saturday and ski.
00:20:50
I was I don't know what they were doing with that signing.
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Um, and then in that same vein, I don't I don't want to keep Valentine, but that's only because of one of my other draft points that I'm gonna make later and, uh, shock Harrison it.
00:21:07
It's just we have.
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We have a lot of people listed as small forwards, but outside of Otto Porter and I'm a big fan of Chandler Hutchison.
00:21:17
I don't really like any of the other guys, so I would be fine letting all of them walk.
00:21:22
Since, you know, with the amount of money Otto Porter supposed to make, he's, ah, 100% picking up that player option.
00:21:28
He's not declining out for sure.
00:21:30
Chicago, by the way, heading into this offseason, I forgot to say it has $9 million in cap space.
00:21:37
Approximately plus the mid level exception, which, obviously, you know, depending on what happens with the salary cap could go down.
00:21:44
So, yeah, your argument makes sense.
00:21:46
E agree with that.
00:21:49
All right, so if we're gonna sneak this or do you want a snake it or do you just wanna go like, OK, all right.
00:21:56
So what do you got for your second? Um, for my second decision, Here comes the draft decision.
00:22:03
Um, in terms of the bulls, like, if I'm the general manager, I honestly don't like you have a lot of wing players, and then you have a lot of guards.
00:22:12
So in these, uh, types of predicaments, you just draft the best player available.
00:22:19
If Lemelle oh is somehow somehow some way available after top three.
00:22:26
You take him, no matter what.
00:22:27
He is the most talented guy available after the first three, you take him no matter what.
00:22:33
Then if he isn't available, which will be very likely.
00:22:37
Um, you draft a guy like, ah, guy you would love in Chicago and Obi Topping or Danny.
00:22:44
However you however you pronounce his last name this well, these decisions that Denny or Obi Picks will make sense when I get to my last pick.
00:22:54
Because out of this young cord, there's an odd man out in your case.
00:22:59
There's also an odd man out of here.
00:23:01
I don't know if you're eventually gonna talk about him, but, uh, yeah, you have a lot of wings.
00:23:08
I would keep Valentine and check Harrison, which adds a lot more to that death.
00:23:13
You still have done Kobe White and Satya Raske, which I will talk about later.
00:23:19
Um then you also have Hutchinson who you mentioned Otto Porter, who is coming back.
00:23:26
Um, and then in the forwards you have gaffer, you have marketing.
00:23:30
You have Felicio Carter.
00:23:32
Ryan Arcidiacono has a guard as well, Like they all play good.
00:23:36
Which is the thing like every single one of those players except maybe Felicio.
00:23:41
They play really good.
00:23:42
So in the draft with the fourth pick, you just take whoever.
00:23:46
Whoever the best player is available.
00:23:48
Whether that's Danny O.
00:23:49
B or Lemelle A or Tyreese, you take whoever best available.
00:23:54
But Denny Obi Topping or Lamela ball would be my three preferred options.
00:24:01
Yeah, I know you love those fix.
00:24:03
I am.
00:24:04
I am very low on.
00:24:08
I'm very low on topping.
00:24:10
I'm very low on Danny, but that's just because I've been burned too many times with drafting like four year wings like we did it with Valentine in the lottery.
00:24:21
I thought he was gonna be a lot better than what he has done his entire career.
00:24:25
And just those international guys scare me a little bit too much like there have been moments where marketing looks really good.
00:24:32
But then there's moments where it looks like he doesn't try on defense, and I don't I would rather get somebody who's a little bit more proven, somebody who's gonna like help us where we fit best.
00:24:46
And that's just why.
00:24:49
I mean, that's why I don't I don't want to take one of those guys.
00:24:53
They're like, I know for us.
00:24:56
I'm thinking more for the starting five in general, I think, to help our starting five the best.
00:25:02
It's gonna be a point guard.
00:25:04
I know we're a thinner at forward, but, like, I don't think there's a guy in the draft outside of James Wiseman who I definitely don't think we'll be there at four.
00:25:17
I don't think there's a guy in the draft who would start or be like the immediate sixth man with marketing and Carter.
00:25:25
So that's that's why I'm looking at a point guard first.
00:25:28
And then if we do some other stuff I can draft forward anywhere from like a small forward to a center later in this first round.
00:25:40
Makes sense.
00:25:41
Makes sense.
00:25:42
That's my my thing. Like I would love Lemelle.
00:25:44
Oh, but like at number four, I doubt he's gonna be available like Wiseman and Edwards air for sure going and then the third pick, the third guy going out and whatever order it is, is between low, mellow and will be topping.
00:26:00
Yeah, my whole thought process is kind of just focused on the Timberwolves have DeAngelo and have Karl Anthony towns, so they need a shooting guard to go next toe.
00:26:12
DeAngelo.
00:26:13
They take Anthony Edwards, the Warriors, if they want to get back and win immediately, like next year.
00:26:19
They still have Clay Thompson Steph Curry, who's been like their star center since they've had this dynasty.
00:26:26
I can't really think of one like they had to Marcus that one year, but he was injured pretty much the whole time.
00:26:32
So they take James Wiseman.
00:26:33
That's the first two gone off the board and then the other team, Charlotte Charlotte, loves messing up their draft e think they just take, I think, I think, for some reason, in like their minds, they take their like way, like what that point guard did for us last year.
00:26:50
We like what whoever that power forward was that they had last year.
00:26:55
We like those guys, but I don't see a small forward on that roster because they also have Malik Monk.
00:27:00
So then they go take obey topping, and that just leaves on the outside the group, and he's right there for the Bulls at four.
00:27:06
Yeah, but then the thing is, well, it's like anyone of like all those themes.
00:27:12
Those three teams Charlotte, Minnesota and Golden State could have been involved in rumors of trading their pick.
00:27:18
So that's also a huge possibility.
00:27:20
And then whoever requires the pick, then you kinda have toe rewrite the narrative because their needs are different.
00:27:26
So if Lamos available, But for somehow, you definitely take him.
00:27:30
But you gotta have, like, a Plan B, Plan C and then a plan B in case whatever happens, Yeah, so I mean, for my for the second thing I want to do.
00:27:44
Everybody hates it when I say this, but like by the time you let me explain it, I think it will make sense.
00:27:51
I really do.
00:27:53
I really do think we need to trade Zach Lavine.
00:27:55
He's had too many lower leg injuries for a guy who likes to jump the way he the way he does, I don't see him having the longest career anyway, and he's already a couple years older than the rest of the court.
00:28:07
And if we're still gonna be rebuilding for a couple of years, I know it doesn't really make sense for the team.
00:28:13
We would create him, too, but I think Oklahoma City has a ton of picks.
00:28:18
I don't even I don't even need, like, Shay, like, give me somebody serviceable like one of, like, there are other young guys who was playing well in the bubble.
00:28:27
Give me one of them.
00:28:29
Give me a couple of first round picks like their number 25 pick from the Nuggets this year and then maybe a future first that they are from, like the Clippers or something you give us like one.
00:28:39
I like their younger guards or somebody who is playing Well, actually, you know what? Let me check the roster because I do know they have some good young forwards and I would definitely want to take one of those they got basically adores.
00:28:58
Um, there's another guy.
00:29:01
That's what I was thinking.
00:29:02
I do like I do like Baizley.
00:29:05
Um, yeah, I don't I think Dorrit is untouchable.
00:29:09
Like Door is not going anywhere.
00:29:11
No.
00:29:12
And I wouldn't even I think, basically would be the guy that I would want the most because he could add a little bit more of that forward depth because we have, like you said, we have the guards.
00:29:22
We have, like some small like some wing guys.
00:29:24
But you add Baizley as, Ah, power forward, death behind marketing.
00:29:29
And then you give us a couple of first round picks.
00:29:31
We send Levin over there, and I because once you trade Levin, you can put White in his natural position, which is gonna be an off ball scoring guard.
00:29:45
And that's what that's what ties into me.
00:29:48
Drafting a point guard with the first pick this year.
00:29:51
So then you go point guard, wait at the shooting guard Otto Porter.
00:29:55
At least for the next year, it's small forward, and then you have extra draft capital the next two years to go with to continue building the young core, especially if next year still a semi rebuilding year.
00:30:11
It gives us like two first round picks this year.
00:30:13
Two first round picks next year.
00:30:15
Um, I think it just sets us up for the future.
00:30:17
Better to build with the core that's here right now.
00:30:22
I mean, I don't agree with the thought of trading sack Levine.
00:30:26
Let's be clear on that, but if you do, I feel like that's a good package.
00:30:30
I feel like that benefits both teams.
00:30:32
Levine is still young, and he could help.
00:30:37
Okay, see, because O.
00:30:38
K. C. Is going to the rebuild.
00:30:40
Um, I feel like this, especially with the firing of Donovan.
00:30:44
It looks like they're treating.
00:30:45
Last season I was Yeah, that was a That was a great season.
00:30:49
You know, we surprised everyone, but Okay, let's let's get to the rebuild now.
00:30:52
And I feel like their off season moves are going to be centered around that.
00:30:58
And the a move for basically could make sense. I like him.
00:31:03
He's a versatile guy. Could play three or four.
00:31:05
And the picks, you know, our great as well of Levin's gonna be better than at least like three of those guys they would choose with those picks.
00:31:14
So if you do decide to move Levine, which I don't agree with, um, that Okay, see, uh, package would be a good one.
00:31:22
Yeah. Plus, I feel like it'll help out. Okay.
00:31:24
See, too, because we all know Chris Paul's definitely towards the end of his career.
00:31:29
I think Shea, in a perfect world, could just should probably should just be ah, ball handler like he could score.
00:31:37
But he's also a really good passer, so you can slide shade over to his natural position position at point and then have exactly being the the shooting guard, so it solidifies their backcourt.
00:31:46
It'll help us build out our backcourt and our future.
00:31:49
I think it could benefit both teams.
00:31:52
Yeah, that's a good move.
00:31:54
That's good, though, right? So I got to your third one now.
00:31:57
Yeah, so my third one pretty much piggybacked off my second one, because if we got like, if we like, if we if we make that trade with Oklahoma City, that gives us a late round pick.
00:32:08
I in this draft and somebody I've been really high on, who's falling a lot in the draft board? Just because of how poorly his team played in college last year, I would love.
00:32:19
I would love to get gated McDaniel's from Washington because he's essentially just a small forward who can handle the ball.
00:32:28
And he's another guy that brings length at 69 200.
00:32:32
He's a pretty good shooter.
00:32:34
He just needs to cut down on the turnovers.
00:32:36
But in this offense, he wouldn't be handling the ball as much as he did in Washington to turn the ball over that much.
00:32:43
He's a good three level score.
00:32:45
He's somebody who could easily be auto porters, replacement in a year or two.
00:32:49
And then that just builds out the starting five that I would love going like either some combination of ball or Halliburton and then white.
00:32:59
Then McDaniel's then, um, marketing then Carter Jr.
00:33:05
Because even in that rotation, Wendell Carter Jr is like this second or third, shortest guy as the center, which just makes us a team that can do.
00:33:17
They can play whatever defense they want because they can.
00:33:20
Anybody can guard anybody on another team, and it just lets us play really good position, less basketball.
00:33:28
And usually when you have a team with guys that are all that big, you think, Oh, they're not gonna have a ball handlers But like Kobe, console ball, hand ball handle and then ball or Halliburton could do the same thing.
00:33:38
McDaniels proved he could do it in college.
00:33:41
It za really good death move.
00:33:44
I think it's a really good like future move.
00:33:45
If we can get him and it still goes with like that, we would still have another first round pick the next year to use to add more like power forward center depth.
00:33:56
So I think I think he's just a good He's a better fit than the small forward we have there now.
00:34:02
Which is why, towards your first point, that's why we want to get rid of Valentine and Harrison.
00:34:07
Because then there's not as many guys who have been there longer, like clogging up the areas for Valentine or not Valentine for McDaniel's to try to just come in and immediately get some playing time solid.
00:34:21
So I like the I like that that move your obviously centered around length, which is the first point you made.
00:34:29
Um, enough, enough enough.
00:34:34
My third pick, my third pick.
00:34:36
My third decision would also be centered around like freeing up rotation spots.
00:34:43
But then, also more importantly for me has a GM.
00:34:46
It's freeing up salary count.
00:34:48
So my third decision would be Do everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky that is young in Christiano, Felicio Felicio.
00:34:59
There's no need to talk about him.
00:35:00
He's been a disappointment ever since he signed, but then that is Young and Santa Rosky.
00:35:06
I feel like I've not been up to par, so what? They're getting paid that Young earns around 12 to $14 million per year and then sat around here is 10 million per year.
00:35:18
And if you have young guys in both of those positions, which is point guard and wing, a small forward power forward, which is what we talked about is where the Bulls have the most death.
00:35:29
You can't have those guys like I get the idea You wanna have him as veterans and why not? You know you wanna help him, but then sat around skis 28.
00:35:38
So he's not really a better and he's still young.
00:35:39
He still has room to improve.
00:35:41
He played really good in Washington that one year John Wall was hurt and he was the starting point guard along with Bradley.
00:35:48
Beal was really good.
00:35:49
But you know you have done.
00:35:51
You have Kobe White.
00:35:53
If you draft a mellow, you could have Lemelle.
00:35:55
Oh, you have Arcidiacono both All three of those air Four of those are young players that fit the timeline of this team better than sat around skin.
00:36:06
He's already 10 million.
00:36:07
You could free up that cap space if you're not gonna play and then Fat Young.
00:36:11
Last year was not consistent.
00:36:13
He was not, you know, positive for most of the season for this team.
00:36:18
So I would look, um, to trade all three of them where I would trade them.
00:36:24
Well, Christiano Felicio.
00:36:26
I doubt he has that much value on the trade market, So if anything, I would look to keep him.
00:36:32
He's an expiring contracts, so you know, it's whatever.
00:36:36
But then fat young and sad hranjski, I feel like they fit best in Atlanta because Atlanta is a team that is a couple of pieces away, or maybe even right now, ready to be in the playoffs.
00:36:51
They're one of those teams that, along with Chicago, are fighting next year for that 7th, 8th, maybe six.
00:36:59
A seed in the Eastern Conference.
00:37:02
Um, there may be concerns in terms of trading where the team that is in the same boat as you, but in terms off, you know what Atlanta needs.
00:37:11
They need those veterans in both of those positions in point guard.
00:37:14
They need a backup to trade young, and they need someone who could be a veteran.
00:37:18
Saransk E.
00:37:19
Has been in the league.
00:37:20
He's played really well.
00:37:21
He's an international guy he's got basketball experience.
00:37:24
I feel like he could be the better.
00:37:25
Um, compliment.
00:37:27
To trade Young as a backup and then that Young is a win as a wing player.
00:37:31
Could play 3 to 4.
00:37:32
He has a lot of versatility, even on a bad day, so he could really help.
00:37:37
Um, Atlanta? I would get a couple, couple of first round or not a couple of first round picks, maybe a first and two seconds for both of them or something like that.
00:37:47
And it just kind of stuck up draft picks for the future.
00:37:51
And then, besides salary, Cappio obviously free up around 23 24 million per year by trading both of them, both of their contracts inspire at the end of the 2021 2022 ah season.
00:38:06
You also free up rotational spots for the guys We draft at four and then at the second round the wing and then at point guard for the guys we dropped in for the guys who have been on this team for a couple of years now that every time that they get a chance to play guys like Arcidiacono and shock Harrison guys that when they play, they play good.
00:38:30
It's just that when the team is healthy, there's no spot.
00:38:33
There's no consistent spot for them in in the rotation.
00:38:35
So trade them and the off season I have.
00:38:38
My next decision is filled around the signing other, cheaper veterans that can fit in the team and kind of help them fill that boy without having to pay them $24 million in combined.
00:38:50
So that would be my third.
00:38:53
Yeah.
00:38:54
Third decision.
00:38:55
Do everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky.
00:38:57
Daddy is young and Christiano Felicio.
00:39:01
Yeah, All right.
00:39:02
So I do like the idea of making a trade with Atlanta.
00:39:05
Who do you think would be somebody that they could get from Atlanta if they made that trade? Like, who do you think would be available? I don't think you have to get anyone because Atlanta has a lot of cap space.
00:39:19
E don't have.
00:39:21
Yeah, go ahead.
00:39:22
I know they do have a lot of cap space, but I think they also have a couple of guys that I might like to add some depth more specifically in the front court.
00:39:34
Well, I I scatter.
00:39:36
I I scouted their team.
00:39:38
And if you look at their front court, I don't think any.
00:39:42
I don't think they're willing to trade any of those guys because DeAndre Hunter is obviously a rookie.
00:39:47
They're not going to trade him camera the same thing.
00:39:51
Bruno, Fernando, If anything, I guess.
00:39:55
One of the centers.
00:39:56
But then my thing with the center position is I really like Gafford e.
00:40:02
I really like Daniel Gafford as a backup, and he's only 22.
00:40:05
When he played last year, he was really good.
00:40:07
But then as well, he was also injured a lot.
00:40:10
And then one look, Carter as well.
00:40:12
So in the best case scenario, I want Carter as a starting and Gafford as a backup.
00:40:17
Cornett played his solid.
00:40:19
He could be the third center off the bench.
00:40:22
But then, if we're going to get someone from Atlanta, you could get either Fernando or Damien Jones and Damien Jones, I believe, is a free agent this year.
00:40:32
So you could probably probably one of those centers have insurance for Carter on Gafford.
00:40:40
But I guess you could get one of those.
00:40:43
Yeah, um, the guy that I saw on Atlanta's roster, even though he didn't really play for them this year.
00:40:51
I think somebody who doesn't play center, he's not gonna take up any a gaffe Ridge minutes.
00:40:56
But I think if you could get a scalpel, love you see a I think he's a guy who still has potential.
00:41:03
He just never had.
00:41:04
He never had the opportunity to show it because he was in Sacramento, who always has, like, 20 guys on the team and players.
00:41:10
They're just gonna get buried anyway.
00:41:12
And then he was in Portland, which I think I don't know if it was you or if it was Daryl who was talking about how good Portland from court is.
00:41:21
But that kind of killed his minutes there.
00:41:23
And then there was a knee injury that stopped him from playing in Atlanta.
00:41:26
I think you I think he could be a good fit at power forward if if they just want to like on him in because I mean, he's obviously not playing over John Collins.
00:41:35
Yeah, so if they had to get rid of somebody, I think they could get rid of him and then we could use him as depth when we're getting rid of those bad contracts we have mhm.
00:41:46
Well, it's funny you say that it is very funny.
00:41:50
You say that because Labissiere is a free agent this year and it's funny you bring him up specifically because that brings me to my fourth decision, which is deaf signings, which is guys like I did with Rex guys that I would look at to add depth to the roster.
00:42:06
You know, you have veterans, guys that can improve the team, guys that fill out needs.
00:42:11
You have all all of these things here and one of the guys I have here.
00:42:16
Ironically enough, it's scallop.
00:42:18
BC a.
00:42:19
For all the things you just said.
00:42:20
I really like him as a mid range shooter.
00:42:23
Has a low post player every time he's had a chance to show his potential.
00:42:28
He's played really good.
00:42:29
But as you said, he's been in teams that either are incompetent or are stacked in this position.
00:42:35
So I really I would really like scallop BC a the other guys, I would like just some notable piece.
00:42:42
I'm gonna throw some names and kind of say why, uh, Noah Vonleh for the same reason.
00:42:48
Uh, he's a former bowl.
00:42:49
He's at.
00:42:50
He's added a lot of versatility to his game since getting out of Chicago with Portland and Denver and the Knicks.
00:42:57
So I feel like it could be a good death piece.
00:43:00
Juan Hernangomez is a good shooter.
00:43:02
He could also be a solid, deaf piece.
00:43:04
Alan Crab is a good shooter, good shooting guard.
00:43:08
You could pay him something close to the middle of the exception, and he could add some death and then can base more Courtney leave.
00:43:16
They both are veterans.
00:43:17
They both play good defense.
00:43:18
They're both solid enough shooters.
00:43:20
Base more played really well with the King's last year after being traded, um, from Portland and then Courtney Lee.
00:43:27
I just really like Courtney, like every time he's played.
00:43:29
He's one of the best three and the players in the league.
00:43:32
Not right now, but yeah, when he's had the chance and then two guys that I feel like are long shots that could really, really improve the team, our Jeremy Grant and pushed and Christian water.
00:43:48
Now both of those guys granted to come to Chicago, they will have to take something less than what they would get in other teams.
00:43:58
Christian would I saw his market was around 10 million or $9 million which is crazy to me.
00:44:05
But if that's his market, Chicago has a chance to sign us, so I would definitely go through him.
00:44:11
And that will make much more sense when I get to my fifth decision and then a guy like Jeremy Grant who is versatile.
00:44:19
He proved in Denver, especially in the playoffs against the Lakers, that he's a solid two way player.
00:44:26
You know, if he's shooting like he's shooting against the Lakers and he has that versatile oven offensive game, he can add a lot of Valley to the Chicago team with the versatility he brings, like everything you talked about with basically, but times two or times three, like he's that good and he's that good oven impact granted is gonna have to take less than you know.
00:44:50
Another team might offer him like uh, you know, 15 million per years what other teams might offer him here in Chicago.
00:44:58
He might have to take around 11 or 12 million per season, but if he's willing to come here, which would be one of the better teams that would be offering in the contract That is a major major plus to this team.
00:45:12
But those are some of the guys at shooting guard and then at power forward that I would look to add for death on this team.
00:45:22
Yeah, I think I think Christian would might.
00:45:24
Could be good for who is the other power forward.
00:45:27
You said Jeremy Grand.
00:45:29
Okay, I'm gonna repeat all the guys I e I definitely like Grant.
00:45:34
I definitely like wood.
00:45:36
I'm not a huge fan of hernangomez.
00:45:39
Yeah, And then I also I also said, Let me see a who you talked about Noah Vonleh, a Allen Crabbe, Courtney Lee and Ken Base more? Yeah, those guards.
00:45:50
I'm not too high on, but I mean that.
00:45:52
I mean, we're basically talking about the same point here because my fourth point is also just talking about free agents.
00:45:58
Um, I do have a couple of guards or forwards.
00:46:04
Um I mean, this is just like a if we're under, like, the 14 man minimum, and we need somebody else.
00:46:12
I think Josh Jackson could just be a give him a small contract to see what happens.
00:46:17
Type guy.
00:46:18
But one of the one of the guards that I would really love toe have is like, Ah, back up would be if we could get Alonso tree here because I did watch.
00:46:29
I watched a little bit too much of him his rookie year in New York, and I mean, it's It's the Knicks that's so dysfunctional, like he would play really well for a good stretch of games.
00:46:40
And then it would just be bench coach's decision.
00:46:43
You just You just have to ask why, like you couldn't understand what they were doing with them.
00:46:48
But he is a good all around score if he I think I don't remember what the problems were he had at Arizona, but something happened to him at Arizona that kind of killed his draft stock.
00:47:00
Otherwise he would have been drafted much higher than he waas or if you know, if the Knicks just signed him as a free agent.
00:47:07
I don't remember, um, but I think he would be a really good edition.
00:47:12
Um, I like I would like maybe seeing what would happen if we could get Harry Giles because I know it.
00:47:24
That's something that hurts like gaffers development.
00:47:27
I know they're both kind of centers.
00:47:28
But I think Giles has developed enough of a jumper to shoot out to mid range that he could slide over to just being an athletic power forward, that it could work for us.
00:47:40
And then, um what was it? I mean, this is one where I've been high on him since he was with, directed his team in Philly, and I know he's restricted, but and I mean, this is why I don't see this one happening because we'd have to offer Sorry, it's way too much money for him for the Sun's not to match it, but I mean that type of guy.
00:48:06
As a power forward, he can stretch the floor.
00:48:09
He's just really creative around the basket because, you know, he's not really going over people, but he has the moves to get around them on the inside.
00:48:18
He would just be a good, solid offensive piece.
00:48:21
Um, and then, like you said, Jeremy Grant would be another guy that I like, Um, but I mean, that's pretty much it.
00:48:30
I don't want to go for one of the big names because that would just be like I don't want to kill our cap now when we're gonna have to start paying people in a couple of years.
00:48:40
Yeah.
00:48:41
So I would like taking shots on some of those younger guys on smaller deals.
00:48:47
Yeah, it seems like Chicago like going to the first point.
00:48:51
You kind of want to stay in the rebuild, but also steadily improved, which goes perfectly with your point, which is signed.
00:48:58
Some of those under the radar guys.
00:49:01
I like Josh Jackson.
00:49:03
I like him as a player.
00:49:04
I also like Harry Giles and I lost so drear my thing with those guys, it would, um, mess up the rotation.
00:49:14
They would mess up the other young guys that have minutes set up.
00:49:18
Guys like Jackson and Trigger have been inconsistent with career.
00:49:21
You could make the argument.
00:49:22
It's more of a New York problem than him, but he's also a small guard, and I feel like you have.
00:49:27
We have a lot of guards that could feel fill up that void.
00:49:31
Josh Jackson on the waited, the wait and see contracts type of deal.
00:49:36
I like it, but we also have a lot of wings, so it we wouldn't have too much minutes to kind of wait and see, because I'd rather developed the other guys that have already proven on the team.
00:49:47
They could be very effective.
00:49:48
Parry Giles.
00:49:49
I really, really, really like him.
00:49:52
But along with Dario, Sarge, my thing with those is that I doubt their original teams who wanna let go of them that easily.
00:50:00
Uh, Sacramento.
00:50:01
I would be shocked if they let him go.
00:50:03
Same thing with Phoenix, but both of both of those guys, especially Giles.
00:50:08
But with all the injuries Sacramento had this past year proved he can play really good as a starter, getting really good minutes.
00:50:15
So I doubt him.
00:50:16
And Sarge, we're going.
00:50:17
And then on the Jeremy Grant thing, we both angry.
00:50:21
Yeah.
00:50:22
What's, um what's Giles contract look like? So I'm not seeing him as a restricted free agent.
00:50:28
And unless he has, like, a team option, I don't see him with a player option.
00:50:33
So unless Sacramento just wants Thio offer him that much more than what anybody else would offer him, I think he's gettable.
00:50:41
No child is unrestricted.
00:50:42
I just I just got it here.
00:50:44
Yeah, he's unrestricted.
00:50:46
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
00:50:47
Because that might be one of the things where Sacramento always has a lot of forwards.
00:50:52
Even though he got them in his this year, he might think if they're healthy, he might not get those minutes next year.
00:50:56
So he might try to find somewhere else.
00:50:59
Yeah, that's a good observation.
00:51:01
That's a good point.
00:51:02
Right? Uh, so, how many decisions you got left? Yeah, I got one left.
00:51:08
E got one left This.
00:51:10
Well, so All right, Let's see.
00:51:14
So my my last this my last decision, would just be to get rid of the rest of the front office like Gar packs was there. They sucked.
00:51:23
They got rid of one of them.
00:51:24
Finally, they got a little bit better.
00:51:27
They need to get rid of the rest.
00:51:28
Like they need to get rid of whoever is left because that front office sucked.
00:51:33
Just let's let's go.
00:51:35
Not necessarily.
00:51:36
Well, I guess technically, clean house, But like, those owners have been constantly mismanaging this team forever.
00:51:44
Like like Jordan and Pippen were able to do it because they were just that competitive and wanted.
00:51:50
Like like they knew they got underpaid and Gar packs wouldn't even give them more money after they signed a bad deal just because they're like, No, that's the deal you signed.
00:52:01
It doesn't matter how good you get.
00:52:02
We're keeping you on that deal and it's like, Come on, they've been staying here forever and they've been doing it on almost no money.
00:52:08
You can't help out a true superstar one time and like they're just so hardheaded.
00:52:14
They live so far in the past.
00:52:16
We need Thio.
00:52:17
We need to change something because if we can get both of them out of there, that will be the top down start to change the culture.
00:52:25
I like Billy Donovan.
00:52:26
I like the new guy they brought in.
00:52:28
I think Billy Donovan is going to get a good coaching staff with him.
00:52:31
Um, hopefully this new guy is he can draft not terribly like we have been for the most part outside of the last couple of years, Um, and then that'll like that's just like the shot of energy that we need to really get back to being a great team because I think as long as those guys they're they're they're going to keep messing up contracts and it's going to keep us as like we can get up to be like a good team.
00:52:58
But with those guys there, I don't see us being like a great like like, yo, Boulder gonna win the championship this year type team.
00:53:07
Yeah, that would be I mean that that's kind of a dream scenario.
00:53:13
A za general manager.
00:53:15
Uh, I know I wouldn't be able to do that, but yeah, that's that's desirable, Especially with the culture.
00:53:22
By like culture, people don't understand how important culture is and team success.
00:53:28
I mean, you look a, you know, it's it's the obvious choice.
00:53:31
But a team like Miami with their culture, they've had sustained success and then even teams that aren't known for their culture teams like San Antonio Golden State.
00:53:42
Okay, see, with KD and Russ like those guys, those teams have cultures, and that's, you know, the importance of cultures oftentimes underestimated and not only the MBA but in all sports.
00:53:54
So I definitely I definitely would agree with that culture part.
00:53:58
I feel like the the new executive from Denver.
00:54:01
He would bring some of that culture elements Denver being one of those other teams that has also been competitive for the past number of seasons.
00:54:10
My last decision is there's not that radical.
00:54:14
I'm just I'm just gonna say that, um it involves an odd man out, you know, later.
00:54:20
Earlier you were talking about Sack Levin being You didn't say those exact words, but it's basically the odd man out situation where, out of that young core, Levine is the guy that that has to go.
00:54:33
Well, I'm not going to say this guy has to go, but this guy has to prove himself this year for him to not go.
00:54:42
And that's Lowry marketed.
00:54:44
We talked about.
00:54:46
I talked about marketing being garbage last year, like I drafted that dude on my fantasy team because I was expecting a big jump.
00:54:54
And he went from averaging 18 points on 43% from the field, 36% from three to averaging 14 points on 42% and then 34% from the field and from three respectively.
00:55:08
Dude just took a downgrade on offense.
00:55:11
On defense, you said he doesn't even try on occasions, and then he was hurt.
00:55:15
You only playing 50 games.
00:55:17
So marketing it along with some of the players in his 2017 draft class, is eligible for an extension this offseason.
00:55:28
I'm not signing him to an extension like the dude has toe earn his spot.
00:55:33
Has the starting power forward moving forward, and I wouldn't trade him because, you know, piggybacking on my last point.
00:55:40
He had a terrible year last season and he was injured.
00:55:43
So you know, in my mind, I don't think other teams have that much value for him because it's either a.
00:55:51
It was a bad year.
00:55:52
He'll be fine or be.
00:55:54
His first two seasons were great.
00:55:56
This 30 year was the norm, now moving forward.
00:55:58
So I don't think other teams will give that much to get Lowry Market.
00:56:05
And I don't think many teams have a spot for Larry Marketing that at least the same spot Chicago House for him.
00:56:12
So I won't.
00:56:13
My fifth decision would be to not sign him to a extension, um, make improve himself this year, and that kind of justifies my decision to draft a guy like Obi Topping.
00:56:24
If he's available, you could slide him at that four spot.
00:56:27
Moving forward.
00:56:28
You know, marketing doesn't have a good year this season this upcoming season.
00:56:32
Yeah, I will let him walk, you can walk and then you can move forward with the Obi Topping and then maybe resigned Otto Porter to a way, way, way less than 28 million per year contract and move forward with that.
00:56:47
But my odd man out in this young core is Lowry Market, and and my first decision would be to not sign him to a necks tension the own.
00:56:58
The only way I could ever consider just letting him walk.
00:57:02
Because he is the most size that we have on this roster.
00:57:07
The only way I could justify letting him walk is toe also.
00:57:12
Still do what I said in trade Zach Lavine, because looking at the upcoming drafts, there are really good big men.
00:57:21
But I think if we let him walk and keep Zach Lavine, then we're at a loss at power forward because my stock on Obi Topping is so low.
00:57:32
I honestly do not think he's gonna be good at all.
00:57:37
I just don't see it, um, and there's just so many guys coming up that, like, if you can wait like if you can play this year with him and then let him walk and wait for next year.
00:57:52
There's guys like the Mobile.
00:57:53
Is that USC who are really good.
00:57:55
If we could get a high pick, we could get one of them.
00:57:58
Even if you wait till 2022 you got guys like Chat Holmgren, who could play center and then because he is a good floor facer.
00:58:06
But he's so tall he needs to play center.
00:58:09
So then it's just like forward center.
00:58:12
You just go.
00:58:13
Carter Jr and Holmgren, Even though Carter Jr is never gonna be a true power forward, that just might be the guy he defends because of hunger in size.
00:58:23
So that's the only way I could see them letting him walk, because you would have to trade Levine to get a pick that you know will end up being, Ah, hi, lottery.
00:58:33
Pick to kind of guarantee yourself that safety net of being able to get another good promising power forward to replace marketing.
00:58:42
And I don't see that in this year's class.
00:58:49
Well, I think that would be I don't I think I would do that with, like, not necessarily, you know, like a solution.
00:58:58
Right now, I feel like you just let him walk.
00:59:01
If he like? If he doesn't play good, he's not going to get that many offers, you know, for ah, hire contract.
00:59:08
So at the very least, you could resign.
00:59:11
I could resign him for something below what I would be paying him right now.
00:59:18
Um, there's also like, market also has the pressure that this is a contract here.
00:59:22
Like everything I'm saying.
00:59:24
He should know that eso at the very least, you could still bring him back, move them at the deadline again.
00:59:32
This all depends on when the deadline is when the season comes up in regular cir***stances.
00:59:37
Uh, you know, he has to prove himself, like to me.
00:59:41
He just has to prove himself.
00:59:43
He can't keep playing like he did last year, and then me go out and paying him more than $10 million which is something along the lines of what he should be asking for.
00:59:55
Uh, you could still, if he if he doesn't play good, you either resign him for something less less than you would think You would be paying him right now or you let him walk.
01:00:06
Uh, say we draft, I'll be topping.
01:00:09
We can move forward with him.
01:00:10
at the floor and still, you know, play somewhat small.
01:00:14
Which is what the game is.
01:00:15
Heading Thio now And, uh, you know, even for his length, like, I don't think like his length makes and good on offense.
01:00:25
But if your concern is on defense, he doesn't try that much on defense.
01:00:30
And he Onley averages around 63 He only average six rebounds per game last year, which is what we're using as reference right now.
01:00:38
So the length is not as big as a concern to me as it is to you, which is in terms of preference.
01:00:46
There's really not a right or wrong answer there.
01:00:48
But I feel like at the end of the day, with that decision, I just want to say that market and has to prove himself like his spot in this future is not promised.
01:01:00
Like you're on that out of Sokolov.
01:01:01
My odd man out is Ah, Larry Laurie Marketing.
01:01:06
Thank you.
01:01:07
Yeah, I Yeah, I think, uh, I don't know.
01:01:14
I think I think marketing in a Billy Donovan definitely has a better offense.
01:01:19
And there's a better scheme for this team than then what they had last year So I think that will be a good improvement to his game already.
01:01:30
And if he can get back up to being just a pretty good player, I don't need him to be a great player right now.
01:01:36
I need him to be pretty good and just with him being pretty good, we can get guys who can be great players, and then it just everything I'm thinking of is just trying.
01:01:49
Thio fit the timeline for the future, and I'm just worried.
01:01:56
Exactly.
01:01:57
Beans have what to a C L surgery is already or something like that.
01:02:01
The guy who made most of his living so far.
01:02:04
I know he's a good three point shooter, but so far in his career, most of his like living has come off of being a great athlete.
01:02:11
When you've already had two A C L surgeries, I don't know.
01:02:16
I just I can't be sure about how long of a career that's going to give him.
01:02:22
So, like if he ends up having like bad legs by the time he's 32 or 33 then what we kept him and couldn't we weren't able to get what we should have gotten for him now for him.
01:02:34
Thio be done in six years when all these other guys air entering their prime.
01:02:39
E think it's just more of a risk trying to bet on a guy that's had that many big injuries being your star player for the next 89 years, when you could get a good haul for him right now and then build something that's gonna make the team as a whole better for the next decade.
01:03:01
If they stay, I want to ask you something in regards to that.
01:03:05
But before I dio, I want to say, I agree with you on that On the Larry market and things like his first year, he averaged 15 points per game on 43%.
01:03:15
Like during his entire career, he's roamed around 43% from the field and then 35% from three.
01:03:22
And if he his best year was the second year he averaged 18 points per game.
01:03:27
I don't need him to go up to 20.
01:03:30
If he could stay at around 18 or 17 that that's all I could ask for because then you have you had to add the fact he's 7 ft if he's if he's somewhat tries on defense, he could be the best impact defender besides Chris done on this team.
01:03:47
And he could be a problem.
01:03:49
You know what? What we would call a problem on the picking Pop if he could improve around the rim.
01:03:54
If he could play consistently in the post like he could be a problem for, for for the team.
01:04:01
If he plays well, I just need him toe to come back to second year for him.
01:04:04
I don't need him to jump to 20 points per game.
01:04:07
Like if you could do with them, you know, fine, I won't.
01:04:10
I won't complain if he does it, but if he doesn't, I just need him to not be what he was last year.
01:04:17
At least that's my thought and then on the sack.
01:04:19
Levin thing isn't your concern.
01:04:22
Which is a legitimate concern, I might add, isn't that same concern.
01:04:28
Uh, like, doesn't that come off? That's the same thing that happened with Jimmy Butler, because the way you're explaining is kind of the same thing that happened.
01:04:37
You know, he didn't have injuries, but he was a shooting guard.
01:04:40
He was their best wing player they were building around him, but he got to the point where the team wasn't going anywhere and they did him trade him when they had the deals for Boston in place where they would acquire a lot of picks and then young guys.
01:04:57
And then they ended up trading him to Minnesota for, you know, Levin and marketing and done, which is what they have now.
01:05:03
So is that concern somewhat resemble the Jimmy Butler situation or stop just pure coincidence? Um, it resembles it a little bit.
01:05:16
Um, I don't think it's completely the same because I think if they if they don't trade them, it's fine.
01:05:23
I think with Jimmy, if they didn't trade him, it was gonna be a problem because Jimmy Butler he was tired of being in Chicago.
01:05:30
It's happened most of the places he's gone to so far, like he just gets tired of it, and he just like he just wanted to be out.
01:05:39
So we had to find something to get for him.
01:05:42
I think I think the concerns air different in it, being like a morale thing for Jimmy and it being an injury thing for Zack like Zack.
01:05:52
I don't want him to get another big injury and then have every team be scared away from going after him like he's had a couple decently healthy seasons in a row like last year.
01:06:03
Not so much this year was probably his closest thing.
01:06:06
That having a healthy season and I think before every team labels him his injury prone, I wanted I want to sell high when we have the option and I see because it's something people are really starting to talk about.
01:06:21
The 2022 draft class is going to be one of the most loaded draft classes since LeBron James's draft, because that's the year where every where all the players can either choose to go straight from high school to the MBA or Goto like you get all like the one and done, and then you also get all the really good freshman.
01:06:45
So you get everybody that could have come out of high school.
01:06:48
That's going to be stuck having to play one year of college next year.
01:06:53
So the 2021 class, so you get the best of two draft classes, which is why I think trading of now when when teams aren't thinking so much about saying we need to keep this 2020 to pick if you can start Thio.
01:07:07
If you can start to stock up on those pics now, you're going to set yourself up for a really bright future.
01:07:13
Which is why I love what Oklahoma City has and what New Orleans has.
01:07:17
And when I think we can have.
01:07:19
If we can get rid of well, I don't want to say get rid of because that sounds mean.
01:07:22
But if we can move Zach Lavine for some future assets, which I think have a much higher upside right now, then what we could keep if we keep moving, that makes sense.
01:07:37
That makes sense.
01:07:38
All of the moves makes sense, obviously, two different mindsets in terms of managing an off season, which you know it's acceptable.
01:07:45
There's no right or wrong answer we've seen throughout the years to managing a team.
01:07:50
So to recap, I wanna, you know, say our decisions real quick.
01:07:53
Just say them, you know, didn't know explanation required for my five decisions.
01:07:59
It would be in terms of resigning.
01:08:01
Skip creep, Kristen at all costs also resigned that sell Ballantine, Shaquille Harrison.
01:08:07
Number two would be draft the best player available either Denny or be topping Orla Melo ball, preferably number three.
01:08:15
Do Everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky, Daddy is Young and Christiano Felicio in a move to free up cap space and rotation spots.
01:08:22
Number four will be the death signings I mentioned earlier.
01:08:25
And then Number five.
01:08:26
The last one b two Not resign to not sign Laurie Marketing Toe.
01:08:31
One extension.
01:08:34
Yep, that sounds good.
01:08:35
And for my five, I have draft some.
01:08:41
One of the players have either tyreese caliber in Lemelle Oh ball Or Who was the third guy? He was the guy from France.
01:08:51
Halliburton.
01:08:53
Gillian Hayes.
01:08:54
Killian.
01:08:55
Hes so either Hayes, Halliburton or Lemelle a ball.
01:08:58
And then, for my second move, I would, uh, if possible, trade Levin toe Oklahoma City for a combination of Baizley and their pick with Denver this year and a future first.
01:09:14
It doesn't even have to be their future.
01:09:16
First, they have so many future first round picks from other teams.
01:09:18
Just any of those would be good.
01:09:20
Um, my third pick would be to use that pick that we could possibly get from Oklahoma City to draft a player like Jada McDaniel's who I think Phil's another role once Otto Porter probably leaves after next season.
01:09:38
My fourth move would be to try to sign some players like Harry Giles, Alando Tree here and some other depth pieces.
01:09:48
And my fifth and final idea is obviously, you got to get rid of oligarch packs out front office was not it.
01:09:58
You gotta keep the new guy you got.
01:10:01
Just build out a new front office, just start everything at the top over, keep the young guys and then just see if, uh, see if Billy Donovan and them can get it done.
01:10:13
Mhm.
01:10:14
You hear it, people, You heard it here, people.
01:10:17
After this dream is over, I'll do a poll.
01:10:20
So you guys, you guys on my Twitter, that's and I don't have 75.
01:10:24
Think about who you think made the best decisions.
01:10:27
But now let's get off our imagination.
01:10:30
Off of RGM seat.
01:10:32
It was fun while it lasted.
01:10:33
Let's get back to reality Has fans of the game.
01:10:38
What do you think realistically, the Chicago Bulls will do this offseason sort of draft signings.
01:10:45
Resigning is possible.
01:10:46
Trades What do you think? As a fan, they will actually do.
01:10:52
Things Just got real pessimistic.
01:10:55
Really bad.
01:10:57
Um, we're probably just gonna sit there and draft Obi Topping.
01:11:03
Have them end up with the same type of careers.
01:11:05
Denzel Valentine.
01:11:06
We're going to continue to suck, because that's just how it goes.
01:11:10
Um, we're not gonna do anything to get future draft picks.
01:11:14
Is one of the bulls ever done anything to get actual future draft picks that aren't in the same season where we're just giving up players who are better than what we're going to get? Um, no. Probably.
01:11:26
I mean, you know what? No, that's getting a little bit too far out there, but I'd say you know them before the contract extension deadline.
01:11:33
Just signed Felicio again.
01:11:35
You know, he's big.
01:11:38
You can like, he'll take up space.
01:11:41
They're gonna they're gonna try toe there.
01:11:46
They're going to think they should try toe win now with Zach Lavine.
01:11:48
And then they'll probably end up trading Kobe white for some, like bum power forward to put behind Lowry Market in.
01:11:57
It's just nothing is gonna be good.
01:11:59
We're not gonna do anything. Correct.
01:12:01
I'm not excited for it.
01:12:05
I do agree on the part for that.
01:12:10
I don't think but necessarily.
01:12:11
But I don't think they're going to do a lot of moves.
01:12:14
I I'm leaning towards the fact that they will resign.
01:12:18
Cristian, Hopefully, Hopefully they re signed Chris Done Shack, Harrison and then and then and then Valentine.
01:12:26
I'm not entirely sure because Ballentine has been hurt and they have a lot of death there.
01:12:32
And then Harrison they have a lot of depth at the guard spot.
01:12:34
So those guys, I'm up in the air on thinking they would really resigned them in terms of trades.
01:12:41
I doubt they're gonna trade anyone nor Levine nor marketing.
01:12:45
I wouldn't be entirely surprised that they end up signing market into an extension that, you know, uh, going on the logic that they trust in his development and what other bull**** that I think of.
01:12:57
But realistically, I feel like they're not going to do anything major for the good.
01:13:03
Obviously, there's rumors roaming around that they might look at guys like Christian Water Jeremy Grant, which if they signed one of them, then I doubt market is getting his extension, and those would be really good pieces throughout to their team.
01:13:18
At least those are the biggest names Uh, you could think about in terms of actual rumors that the Bulls are moving towards in terms of the top four.
01:13:31
The fourth pick, it really all depends on what the top three teams dio, um o b top and, of course, has been sounding.
01:13:38
Danny has been rumored low Melo husband rumored.
01:13:42
So it really all depends on what those three teams dio Golden State Minnesota in Charlotte with their pick.
01:13:49
And then I feel like for the better, they're gonna go with practically the same team until into next year to see how they do with Billy Donovan.
01:14:02
Because the Jim Boylan experiment was a failure again.
01:14:07
Whether you think it was a bad coach or good coach, it just didn't work.
01:14:11
He didn't fit with those guys.
01:14:13
Billy Donovan fits with young guys.
01:14:15
He's not that old for a head coach himself, and he worked wonders with the Rebuild last year with O. K C.
01:14:22
On here in Chicago with the new front office.
01:14:25
New guys, that guy from Denver who's done a did a good job with the Nuggets.
01:14:30
I feel like they want to see how it goes this year with that new sort of identity with Donovan, see what kind of ideas he brings to your point.
01:14:41
He's a better, uh, scheme maker on offense and defense than Jim Boylan, and I'll practice is gonna be a better experience.
01:14:48
I just feel like that, Coach, the player relationship is gonna be better.
01:14:51
Therefore, I don't think they're gonna make too many news.
01:14:55
And then if things stay the same this year, then then I feel like you would see rumors about guys possibly being moved or the Bulls making a big signing or whatnot.
01:15:07
But I agree with you, they're not going to do much.
01:15:10
But I don't view it in the negative.
01:15:12
Obviously, you view it in a negative.
01:15:13
You've been a Bulls fan, uh, since that since you know, basically your entire basketball life and it hasn't been too good for you, but I view it in the positive side.
01:15:24
I feel like this the first year on a new phase of the rebuilding.
01:15:29
If that makes any sense, I feel like, um, it's the beginning of something good in this upcoming season for the Bulls.
01:15:37
Yeah, and I mean, Thio actually be serious for a second.
01:15:41
I do think something Billy Donovan will dio That's gonna be really good for the team as a whole.
01:15:47
I think he's gonna find ways to best utilize Chandler how Justin and Daniel Gafford Because Daniel Gafford is gonna be the closest thing he has toe what Steven Adams was able to do for Oklahoma City.
01:15:59
He's gonna be a good pick and roll guy.
01:16:01
He's a good shot blocker.
01:16:03
He's a good rebounder.
01:16:04
I think Billy Donovan is gonna do the most with what Gafford can give him and then just Hutchison as a small forward who has guard type skills even with his length, I think Billy Donovan is gonna find a way for him to play more and get, like, impactful minutes, which I would love to see to help improve the depth because I am very high on both of those guys.
01:16:29
I just didn't think they got much of a chance with boiling, so I would I'm actually excited to see that to go along with the starting five.
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Still, I'm just I'm so not looking forward to the draft because e think they're just going to take the biggest name from college, which was, I think they're going to take the biggest name from college, which was topping.
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If he's the only one that's left and then it's, I think it's just gonna be a repeat of what Valentine did.
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Is gonna be a four year small forward type guy who people saw play well in college and then he's not gonna perform The MBA.
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Shouldn't be like, Well, good job wasting another lottery pick, guys, because this is not it.
01:17:15
Uh huh.
01:17:17
Well, it's been fun.
01:17:19
Whatever happens will be paying attention on the moving into next season.
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Whatever next season is, we'll be talking about it.
01:17:27
This was the second edition of If I Was a GM, the Chicago Bulls edition chatting with Stephen Moose.
01:17:34
We would do individually as the general manager of the Chicago Bulls, Stephen and anything you want to shout out before we're done.
01:17:42
Yeah, I mean, you can follow me on Twitter at Stephen Carlson 97.
01:17:48
You know, it Z gonna be a lot of UConn stuff right now, because UConn's really good.
01:17:53
So I like talking about my teams that are really good, even though it doesn't happen that often, right? I'm gonna t something that we haven't fully finalized yet, but I think we're going to do it soon.
01:18:05
I can't wait for us to do that to do the MBA mock draft where we get all four of us back together.
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You, me, Rex and Darryl.
01:18:13
That's gonna be fun.
01:18:14
If we can get that set up soon.
01:18:16
Yeah.
01:18:17
Be sure to stay tuned for all we dio.
01:18:20
Ah, Stephen.
01:18:21
As he said as he referred Thio in passing, he does college basketball streams with Rex.
01:18:29
Now the breakdown sports.
01:18:30
Be sure to follow us on all of our social media's and, you know, all four of us.
01:18:35
May, Stephen, Rex, Darryl and myself.
01:18:39
We do the basketball strings together.
01:18:41
It's a whole lot of fun when we are together.
01:18:45
Last time last time.
01:18:46
The stream with Rex with the Philadelphia 76.
01:18:48
It was really fun with you, Stephen.
01:18:50
It was equally as fun.
01:18:52
Thank you so much for coming on, bro. Was a pleasure.
01:18:56
And for all of you to and then it's a pleasure having you here.
01:18:59
So stay safe.
01:19:00
Um, stay tuned for the next episode of Siri's and take care.
01:19:05
God bless you all.
01:19:06
See you later, guys.
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If I was a GM... Chicago Bulls edition

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Welcome back to my SportsCastr and Twitter Chan er, Twitter, Twitter Channel.
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Wherever you are watching.
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Just ****ed up from the start. That's amazing.
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My name is Kevin Reyes From the breakdown today we come back with the continuation off.
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If I was a GM the Siri's where me and my guests pretend we are the general manager of an MBA team and fill out the roster make player oriented decisions coach or into decisions, whatever decisions we want to talk about.
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First episode.
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What's with Wreck? What's with Rex? Talking about the Philadelphia 70 Sixers? And now, in the second episode, I am joined by my good friend Stephen Carlson to talk about his Chicago Bulls.
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Stephen, what's going on, my man? Not much.
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You know.
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You know, I've been saying we're gonna be good for the past couple of years.
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We haven't been, but I'm gonna fix that tonight.
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I'm tired of waiting on all these other people to fix that.
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I got it right now.
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Well, we're both going to try to fix them.
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I got the hoody off Bulls legend Dwyane Wade.
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You know, the last time they were, they were good.
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They made the playoffs.
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But before we talk about the bulls, um, I talked about this with Rex on the previous edition.
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These Siri's might not go along all depending on what happens with the MBA off season.
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Um, on Tuesday, it was reported that the n B.
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A wanted to start on December 22nd.
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Recently, it came out that the um M V p. A.
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Notably stars and most players want to start the league on January 18 which is Martin Luther King Day.
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They say the negotiations are gonna take a long time.
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They're gonna, you know, not rush into a decision.
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Obviously, you need to figure out when the season is going to start, how much the salary cap is gonna be when it's the free agency gonna be, You know, they have to figure out all those things.
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Michelle Roberts, the M V p executive director, heavily criticized the decision to start so early again, there's obviously pros and cons to wherever they they want to start.
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But what are your thoughts on that, Stephen? The fact that the MBA wants to start on December 22nd and then on, uh, the MBA players want to start on January team kind of give your thoughts on that.
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And then if you want a prediction on or your thoughts on, when do you think is the best day to start? So, I mean, I could see it from both sides, like you could see it with the MBA.
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They started losing ratings once they had to compete with football so they don't want to start too late and run into the same problem, having to compete against football again.
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But obviously the players feel like they need more of an offseason.
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Then they're going to get if it starts on December 22nd.
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So I think in the end they're probably gonna shorten the season a little bit.
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Maybe by like, 10 games or something like that, and then they'll try to come together on a date and have it start mawr the first week of January instead of towards the end of January.
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But I definitely don't think December 20 seconds happening.
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I think we'll see it like right around the beginning of 2021.
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Yeah, I feel like the most realistic thing and I talked about.
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I talked about this with Rex.
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I feel like the most realistic thing is like a mid January to late January.
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Start away shorter season.
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They obviously lose tons of money.
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I saw like a graphic on how much money players would losing their yearly salary this year and that's a lot of money.
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So I much rather like if I'm the players and even if I'm a fan, I would much rather have them start later and have, like a somewhat normal off season, have a training camp.
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You're probably not gonna have a preseason, but at least have a training camp.
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Have teams, you know, be able to play together and got to get to know each other before the rial basketball starts.
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And then, obviously, the main thing here with all start dates is that they wanna end before the Summer Olympics, which are on July on 2021.
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Obviously, they don't get the Stone again and whatnot.
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But that's obviously the main thing.
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I feel like the likeliest scenario because players aren't gonna budge.
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You know how much money they're gonna lose or how much the MBA pressures them.
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Players aren't gonna budge.
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We're probably not going to get an agreement anytime soon on start dates, on salary cap or on free agency, even though the draft is right around the corner.
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Um, I feel like the likely scenarios.
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I said mid January to late January start have, like, a 50 something game, regular season, have it and on around have the playoffs and then around June or the start of July, and then you could still send stars to the Olympics if they want it.
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Um, but okay, now, getting into what we came here to Dio, which are the Chicago Bulls.
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Chicago.
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The last time they were good, as I said there with Dwyane Wade with the services of Dwyane Wade, Jimmy Butler and Radio Rondo, the last time they made the playoffs was in that year, 2016 2017.
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They lost in the first round to the Boston Celtics in six games.
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They won the first two and then lost four straight.
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And the last three seasons, it's been no playoffs for Chicago.
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It's been, I wouldn't say, a steady rebuilt because it's been really messed up.
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Rebuilt. You started off with Fred Hoiberg.
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Things went downhill.
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They got Jim Boylan.
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Things did not go back up from there.
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Now you look to start something with Billy Donovan, who can, Who comes from coaching? Um, the Oklahoma City Thunder had a lot of success there, and now we get into this year where the Bulls have a top five pick in the NBA draft.
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They still have sack Levin Lowry marketing Kobe White.
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Kris Dunn is a free agent window.
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Carter Jr They still have their young core set.
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They got a solid coach.
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They got some new guys in their front office.
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But before we get into what they're gonna do this off season, Stephen, your A Bulls fan, Give me your thoughts on the team these past couple of years.
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What have you seen? Whatever you haven't seen.
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What are your thoughts on them? Well, I mean, I was excited to watch them coming into this year.
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I knew the last two years after we lost Jimmy and Dwayne and Rondo like those guys were all veterans enough and established enough that I knew we'd be competitive.
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But once we lost them, the team was too young.
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There wasn't enough, enough enough depth.
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And, uh, like I knew those were the years where we had to rebuild.
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And then when our draft picks fell in the lottery and down to seven all three years each of the past three years, that was when I was like, Well, it's gonna take a little bit more time, Which is why I love the signing of Billy Donovan.
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I just think he's a I think he's a really good coach for young players because, like coming from Florida and then seeing what he did in Oklahoma City once they lost.
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Like Westbrook and Durant, he's just He's good at building teams and he has a good offense for that, which is, I think gonna be.
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Our biggest thing is we need to develop more of a consistent offense.
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Last year we ranked 27th in offense.
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It was somewhere around that really is.
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It was really like I thought the defense was bad last year, but we were still 12th and defensive rating.
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But coming in 27th out of 30 teams in offensive rating like I know we have the scores to be a good offense is just getting somebody who can run a good offense, which is what boiling was not good at boiling.
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Just wanted to be ah, ****in oil and just wanted to be like the type of guy who is not going to take **** from anybody and just trying to preach defense, which was not going to help this team, right? I that I like what they're building.
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I'm gonna like ITM or after the draft, I hope, um but I mean, I'm excited to see what happens, And I think last year this team had enough talent to be in the bottom of the playoffs, like a seven or an eight seed.
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So I can see going into this year with another good piece from the draft, then getting up in, probably passing the magic or being in that area.
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Well, hm, yeah, that's That's my thing with the Bulls These past years, it's been the Jim Boylan experience.
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Basically, I'm a lot of people want to talk about whether he's a good coach or he's a bad coach or whatnot, but that's a relevant to me.
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The main thing you need as a head coach is for your players toe like you.
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And it was clear from like after the first two weeks in Chicago that the young guys just didn't connect with Boiling.
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And it wasn't a good relationship.
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And no matter how good a coach Jim Boylan waas, it wasn't gonna work.
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And I like Billy Donovan.
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In my opinion, I don't think he's, you know, proven.
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That's let me see how I can phrase this.
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He hasn't proven to me he can win.
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Like um, he hasn't proven he can be the main reason why he's teams and winning.
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Obviously, when he came in in 2016 he had K D and Ross.
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He still had Russ.
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And then last year, I feel like that was more of a CP three thing rather than a Billy Donovan thing.
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No, no credit taken away from him like he's a great coach and he's good with with young guys clearly because something worked in O.
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K. C besides Chris Paul.
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But I feel like this is the perfect stage for him to prove just how good of a coach he is.
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And they still got a young core.
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I agree with you totally.
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The talent that team has is too much to not be in the playoffs.
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You obviously look at the top of the East, you still have Milwaukee.
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You still have Toronto, Boston, Miami, Philly and Brooklyn is coming now, with Katie and Kyrie healthy.
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But then there's like 3 to 2 spots that are free for the taking.
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Um, then there's a couple of young teens in the East that didn't make the playoffs this past season that are going to make a push to make the playoffs this year.
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And, you know, see what happens when they get to that to that stage.
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But the thing with Chicago also has been injuries like that.
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Young core has been injured, literally every single one of them.
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Otto Porter, who they acquired was a huge player option in this off season, which will get Thio.
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He's been hurt since getting to Chicago.
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Sack Levin has been notorious for getting hurt.
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Lowry marketing has gotten her in the last year he played light garbage.
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He did not improve at all and then window Carter Jr He has so much potential.
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But then he's also always heard that Kristen is also, uh, missed a couple of times and just not been miss utilized, um, with boiling.
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So that's their situation in the past couple of years, But now, heading into this offseason, you're obviously still in a rebuild like they're still in a rebuild.
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Let's be completely honest, but taking into considers, we just mentioned there's 2 to 3 spots in the East that are free for the taking in the playoffs.
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The bulls can continue the rebuilt, but then also add pieces.
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As you said, one of them, the draft pick the number four pick.
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They could still make a push for the playoffs.
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So in terms of you know, their mindset heading into this offseason, is it more about continuing to rebuild? Or is it more about? Okay, let's let's see if we can make a push.
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Let's see if we could make a push to the playoffs and yeah, I'll see if we can take a game or two from our first round opponent.
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Yeah, that's what right My my thought would be Thio.
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Trade one of our better players this year to a bad team who needs it, Or maybe not a bad team, but a team that thinks they're on the cost, maybe a team like Charlotte who has a pick right in front of us.
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But if we trade them, somebody like pretty good and we can get a future first when I don't think anybody from the Bulls is gonna make or break a team like that, then we can add depth usar pick this year, still have a solid core and, uh, be ableto try to go for it a little bit more.
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We'll still knowing that we have a future first round pick that we can use in the lottery if we still end up being Maurin a rebuild than a contending type state.
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Yeah, so they have that Number four pick.
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Um, they can use it. They could trade.
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There's been rumors about them trading up, but for this upcoming section, this is what defines the If I was a GM, Siri's the decision section.
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So we did this with Rex.
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We're gonna do this on every single one of these additions.
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And if you weren't around, this is how it goes.
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My guest and I in this case, Stephen will go through the 3 to 5.
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Or it could be more. Could be less decisions.
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We would make the main decisions.
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Obviously, not every single thing we would dio has the general manager of said team in this case, the Chicago Bulls.
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The guests will go first, so Stephen will say his decision.
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We'll give as much background information or context.
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He feels necessary to justify his decision.
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And then after that, I'll give my thoughts on it and kind of answer back and forth on that a little bit.
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Then I'll go into my decision.
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I'll give us much background information is context and I feel necessary.
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Stephen will give his thoughts like advancer, and then we'll go back and forth for instant repeat until we're both done with our decision.
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So, Steven, you are the guest.
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You go first again for the people watching.
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This is us using our imagination.
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Most of these aren't going toe happen, but we can dream.
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So, Stephen, kick us off with your description.
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All right? I think my first real question is do we wanna alternate or do you want me to give all mine and then you give you give your first we give a thought? Yeah, we alternate. Okay.
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Sounds good.
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So my first one is what I want to do.
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Our part of what I want to do in the draft this year.
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I don't I don't want to trade up because I saw that with I'm gonna go to football for just a second here.
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I don't want I don't like having a top five pick.
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And then only kind of like you're giving up a good asset in a solid player, and then you have to give up your first round pick to move up one or two spots.
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I don't like doing that, so I think if we can get Lamela's Balto Fall to us.
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I like that because he's a guy who can make plain.
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Even though people don't think of him as a good defensive player, he will add, He will make it easier for the team to play defense, because when you have a lot of long athletic guys, you can play like you can switch, pick and roll so much easier.
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You can play more position list defense.
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Like if the metal ball is not a great defender, you can hide them on like a shooting guard or a small forward who might not be another team's best shooter because he's 67 So I would really like drafting him at four, if I could.
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Um, but if not, I think our biggest need right now is a true point guard.
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So just at the number four pick, I would love to see us take, if not the mellow ball.
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I think Pirates Halliburton would be a very good pickup for us because he rebounds the ball is the point guard.
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He averaged 6.
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5 assists last year at Iowa State.
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Um, he's just somebody who can help initiate the offense because as of right now, we don't have that type of player like Kobe.
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White wants to shoot first.
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Zach Lavine wants to shoot first.
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Chris Dunn is always gonna be defensive minded, and he's never even when he has the ball on offense.
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I don't know if he's looking to create for others, so I think one of those two guys would help open up the floor for our other four players.
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That's where I think our biggest need is on the team, like I'll be so mad if they take like an OBE topping or I don't know who else is around there like even like a Patrick Williams.
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Like I know Patrick Williams is crazy, athletic, and Otto Porter's our oldest starter in the starting five, and he would make us a lot younger with, like a truly good, small forward.
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But I think we need a point guard most in the draft, Okay, so I'm not gonna talk too much on that because my draft decision is my second decision, So I'm kinda.
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I'll kind of give my thoughts on on your draft decision when I get to my but my first decision, my first order of business as the general manager of the Chicago Bulls would be to keep a guy.
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It's terms of resigning.
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I would keep a guy you just mentioned at all costs, and that is Kristen.
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Like I love Chris Don.
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This defense is amazing.
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You know, There weren't if you weren't in Chicago, he would be in all MBA Defender last year, like that's how good he was on defense last season.
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And Jim Boylan had him like the sixth or seventh man playing behind Kobe White and Thomas Oseransky, which is just awful.
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Kristen is blooming with talent.
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The dude is on Lee, 26 his first couple of years in Minnesota.
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It started.
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Minnesota wasn't that good, but offensively, he's gotten better.
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His decision making has gotten better and his defense is second to none.
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He's a top 10 perimeter defender in the league.
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It might be in here right now, so he's a He's a restricted free agent heading into um, this off season and then the other.
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The other three free agents you have besides Cruise done our Otto Porter Jr was a player option, can't do much there and then then sell Ballantine and shock Harrison Shaquille Harrison are also restricted free agents, so I would look, I don't honestly love to keep them both.
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Um, Ballantine, when he's healthy, has been a really solid, uh, to weigh all around player.
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And as a wing player, I feel like he really complements everyone around pretty well.
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He's not a playmaker, but he's also not like a score type, not score first type player.
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He can basically do it all.
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And I really like him coming off the bench and then shat cares.
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And he's impersonal Point guard.
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He's, uh, he's got long arms.
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He's totally 64 So I also like him for his versatility.
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So first order of business will be to keep all three restricted free agents Chris done then.
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So Ballantine and Shock Harrison.
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Yeah, that's I mean, I don't disagree with you at all on Cristian because Chris done.
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He grew up in the same town as my cousins in New London from my home state, Connecticut.
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I've literally played basketball against this kid, just like in a park in New London.
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I know how good he is on defense, because I know that, um but I got on My biggest worry with these shortened seasons is gonna be how it affects the salary cap.
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So I do on Lee.
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Want to keep them? If it's on a favorable deal to the Bulls like I don't want them paying them more than, like 10 $12 million.
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Because even though Chris Done is gonna be serviceable, he'll be fine.
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Kobe White does have a lot more potential as like a really good like star player than Chris done.
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So I don't want us Thio kind of handcuff us.
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Handcuff ourselves salary cap wise, paying him too much money to be a guy who, when best served, will be like the defensive sixth man coming off the bench.
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Um, I definitely agree with you.
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He should start over Saturday and ski.
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I was I don't know what they were doing with that signing.
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Um, and then in that same vein, I don't I don't want to keep Valentine, but that's only because of one of my other draft points that I'm gonna make later and, uh, shock Harrison it.
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It's just we have.
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We have a lot of people listed as small forwards, but outside of Otto Porter and I'm a big fan of Chandler Hutchison.
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I don't really like any of the other guys, so I would be fine letting all of them walk.
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Since, you know, with the amount of money Otto Porter supposed to make, he's, ah, 100% picking up that player option.
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He's not declining out for sure.
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Chicago, by the way, heading into this offseason, I forgot to say it has $9 million in cap space.
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Approximately plus the mid level exception, which, obviously, you know, depending on what happens with the salary cap could go down.
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So, yeah, your argument makes sense.
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E agree with that.
00:21:49
All right, so if we're gonna sneak this or do you want a snake it or do you just wanna go like, OK, all right.
00:21:56
So what do you got for your second? Um, for my second decision, Here comes the draft decision.
00:22:03
Um, in terms of the bulls, like, if I'm the general manager, I honestly don't like you have a lot of wing players, and then you have a lot of guards.
00:22:12
So in these, uh, types of predicaments, you just draft the best player available.
00:22:19
If Lemelle oh is somehow somehow some way available after top three.
00:22:26
You take him, no matter what.
00:22:27
He is the most talented guy available after the first three, you take him no matter what.
00:22:33
Then if he isn't available, which will be very likely.
00:22:37
Um, you draft a guy like, ah, guy you would love in Chicago and Obi Topping or Danny.
00:22:44
However you however you pronounce his last name this well, these decisions that Denny or Obi Picks will make sense when I get to my last pick.
00:22:54
Because out of this young cord, there's an odd man out in your case.
00:22:59
There's also an odd man out of here.
00:23:01
I don't know if you're eventually gonna talk about him, but, uh, yeah, you have a lot of wings.
00:23:08
I would keep Valentine and check Harrison, which adds a lot more to that death.
00:23:13
You still have done Kobe White and Satya Raske, which I will talk about later.
00:23:19
Um then you also have Hutchinson who you mentioned Otto Porter, who is coming back.
00:23:26
Um, and then in the forwards you have gaffer, you have marketing.
00:23:30
You have Felicio Carter.
00:23:32
Ryan Arcidiacono has a guard as well, Like they all play good.
00:23:36
Which is the thing like every single one of those players except maybe Felicio.
00:23:41
They play really good.
00:23:42
So in the draft with the fourth pick, you just take whoever.
00:23:46
Whoever the best player is available.
00:23:48
Whether that's Danny O.
00:23:49
B or Lemelle A or Tyreese, you take whoever best available.
00:23:54
But Denny Obi Topping or Lamela ball would be my three preferred options.
00:24:01
Yeah, I know you love those fix.
00:24:03
I am.
00:24:04
I am very low on.
00:24:08
I'm very low on topping.
00:24:10
I'm very low on Danny, but that's just because I've been burned too many times with drafting like four year wings like we did it with Valentine in the lottery.
00:24:21
I thought he was gonna be a lot better than what he has done his entire career.
00:24:25
And just those international guys scare me a little bit too much like there have been moments where marketing looks really good.
00:24:32
But then there's moments where it looks like he doesn't try on defense, and I don't I would rather get somebody who's a little bit more proven, somebody who's gonna like help us where we fit best.
00:24:46
And that's just why.
00:24:49
I mean, that's why I don't I don't want to take one of those guys.
00:24:53
They're like, I know for us.
00:24:56
I'm thinking more for the starting five in general, I think, to help our starting five the best.
00:25:02
It's gonna be a point guard.
00:25:04
I know we're a thinner at forward, but, like, I don't think there's a guy in the draft outside of James Wiseman who I definitely don't think we'll be there at four.
00:25:17
I don't think there's a guy in the draft who would start or be like the immediate sixth man with marketing and Carter.
00:25:25
So that's that's why I'm looking at a point guard first.
00:25:28
And then if we do some other stuff I can draft forward anywhere from like a small forward to a center later in this first round.
00:25:40
Makes sense.
00:25:41
Makes sense.
00:25:42
That's my my thing. Like I would love Lemelle.
00:25:44
Oh, but like at number four, I doubt he's gonna be available like Wiseman and Edwards air for sure going and then the third pick, the third guy going out and whatever order it is, is between low, mellow and will be topping.
00:26:00
Yeah, my whole thought process is kind of just focused on the Timberwolves have DeAngelo and have Karl Anthony towns, so they need a shooting guard to go next toe.
00:26:12
DeAngelo.
00:26:13
They take Anthony Edwards, the Warriors, if they want to get back and win immediately, like next year.
00:26:19
They still have Clay Thompson Steph Curry, who's been like their star center since they've had this dynasty.
00:26:26
I can't really think of one like they had to Marcus that one year, but he was injured pretty much the whole time.
00:26:32
So they take James Wiseman.
00:26:33
That's the first two gone off the board and then the other team, Charlotte Charlotte, loves messing up their draft e think they just take, I think, I think, for some reason, in like their minds, they take their like way, like what that point guard did for us last year.
00:26:50
We like what whoever that power forward was that they had last year.
00:26:55
We like those guys, but I don't see a small forward on that roster because they also have Malik Monk.
00:27:00
So then they go take obey topping, and that just leaves on the outside the group, and he's right there for the Bulls at four.
00:27:06
Yeah, but then the thing is, well, it's like anyone of like all those themes.
00:27:12
Those three teams Charlotte, Minnesota and Golden State could have been involved in rumors of trading their pick.
00:27:18
So that's also a huge possibility.
00:27:20
And then whoever requires the pick, then you kinda have toe rewrite the narrative because their needs are different.
00:27:26
So if Lamos available, But for somehow, you definitely take him.
00:27:30
But you gotta have, like, a Plan B, Plan C and then a plan B in case whatever happens, Yeah, so I mean, for my for the second thing I want to do.
00:27:44
Everybody hates it when I say this, but like by the time you let me explain it, I think it will make sense.
00:27:51
I really do.
00:27:53
I really do think we need to trade Zach Lavine.
00:27:55
He's had too many lower leg injuries for a guy who likes to jump the way he the way he does, I don't see him having the longest career anyway, and he's already a couple years older than the rest of the court.
00:28:07
And if we're still gonna be rebuilding for a couple of years, I know it doesn't really make sense for the team.
00:28:13
We would create him, too, but I think Oklahoma City has a ton of picks.
00:28:18
I don't even I don't even need, like, Shay, like, give me somebody serviceable like one of, like, there are other young guys who was playing well in the bubble.
00:28:27
Give me one of them.
00:28:29
Give me a couple of first round picks like their number 25 pick from the Nuggets this year and then maybe a future first that they are from, like the Clippers or something you give us like one.
00:28:39
I like their younger guards or somebody who is playing Well, actually, you know what? Let me check the roster because I do know they have some good young forwards and I would definitely want to take one of those they got basically adores.
00:28:58
Um, there's another guy.
00:29:01
That's what I was thinking.
00:29:02
I do like I do like Baizley.
00:29:05
Um, yeah, I don't I think Dorrit is untouchable.
00:29:09
Like Door is not going anywhere.
00:29:11
No.
00:29:12
And I wouldn't even I think, basically would be the guy that I would want the most because he could add a little bit more of that forward depth because we have, like you said, we have the guards.
00:29:22
We have, like some small like some wing guys.
00:29:24
But you add Baizley as, Ah, power forward, death behind marketing.
00:29:29
And then you give us a couple of first round picks.
00:29:31
We send Levin over there, and I because once you trade Levin, you can put White in his natural position, which is gonna be an off ball scoring guard.
00:29:45
And that's what that's what ties into me.
00:29:48
Drafting a point guard with the first pick this year.
00:29:51
So then you go point guard, wait at the shooting guard Otto Porter.
00:29:55
At least for the next year, it's small forward, and then you have extra draft capital the next two years to go with to continue building the young core, especially if next year still a semi rebuilding year.
00:30:11
It gives us like two first round picks this year.
00:30:13
Two first round picks next year.
00:30:15
Um, I think it just sets us up for the future.
00:30:17
Better to build with the core that's here right now.
00:30:22
I mean, I don't agree with the thought of trading sack Levine.
00:30:26
Let's be clear on that, but if you do, I feel like that's a good package.
00:30:30
I feel like that benefits both teams.
00:30:32
Levine is still young, and he could help.
00:30:37
Okay, see, because O.
00:30:38
K. C. Is going to the rebuild.
00:30:40
Um, I feel like this, especially with the firing of Donovan.
00:30:44
It looks like they're treating.
00:30:45
Last season I was Yeah, that was a That was a great season.
00:30:49
You know, we surprised everyone, but Okay, let's let's get to the rebuild now.
00:30:52
And I feel like their off season moves are going to be centered around that.
00:30:58
And the a move for basically could make sense. I like him.
00:31:03
He's a versatile guy. Could play three or four.
00:31:05
And the picks, you know, our great as well of Levin's gonna be better than at least like three of those guys they would choose with those picks.
00:31:14
So if you do decide to move Levine, which I don't agree with, um, that Okay, see, uh, package would be a good one.
00:31:22
Yeah. Plus, I feel like it'll help out. Okay.
00:31:24
See, too, because we all know Chris Paul's definitely towards the end of his career.
00:31:29
I think Shea, in a perfect world, could just should probably should just be ah, ball handler like he could score.
00:31:37
But he's also a really good passer, so you can slide shade over to his natural position position at point and then have exactly being the the shooting guard, so it solidifies their backcourt.
00:31:46
It'll help us build out our backcourt and our future.
00:31:49
I think it could benefit both teams.
00:31:52
Yeah, that's a good move.
00:31:54
That's good, though, right? So I got to your third one now.
00:31:57
Yeah, so my third one pretty much piggybacked off my second one, because if we got like, if we like, if we if we make that trade with Oklahoma City, that gives us a late round pick.
00:32:08
I in this draft and somebody I've been really high on, who's falling a lot in the draft board? Just because of how poorly his team played in college last year, I would love.
00:32:19
I would love to get gated McDaniel's from Washington because he's essentially just a small forward who can handle the ball.
00:32:28
And he's another guy that brings length at 69 200.
00:32:32
He's a pretty good shooter.
00:32:34
He just needs to cut down on the turnovers.
00:32:36
But in this offense, he wouldn't be handling the ball as much as he did in Washington to turn the ball over that much.
00:32:43
He's a good three level score.
00:32:45
He's somebody who could easily be auto porters, replacement in a year or two.
00:32:49
And then that just builds out the starting five that I would love going like either some combination of ball or Halliburton and then white.
00:32:59
Then McDaniel's then, um, marketing then Carter Jr.
00:33:05
Because even in that rotation, Wendell Carter Jr is like this second or third, shortest guy as the center, which just makes us a team that can do.
00:33:17
They can play whatever defense they want because they can.
00:33:20
Anybody can guard anybody on another team, and it just lets us play really good position, less basketball.
00:33:28
And usually when you have a team with guys that are all that big, you think, Oh, they're not gonna have a ball handlers But like Kobe, console ball, hand ball handle and then ball or Halliburton could do the same thing.
00:33:38
McDaniels proved he could do it in college.
00:33:41
It za really good death move.
00:33:44
I think it's a really good like future move.
00:33:45
If we can get him and it still goes with like that, we would still have another first round pick the next year to use to add more like power forward center depth.
00:33:56
So I think I think he's just a good He's a better fit than the small forward we have there now.
00:34:02
Which is why, towards your first point, that's why we want to get rid of Valentine and Harrison.
00:34:07
Because then there's not as many guys who have been there longer, like clogging up the areas for Valentine or not Valentine for McDaniel's to try to just come in and immediately get some playing time solid.
00:34:21
So I like the I like that that move your obviously centered around length, which is the first point you made.
00:34:29
Um, enough, enough enough.
00:34:34
My third pick, my third pick.
00:34:36
My third decision would also be centered around like freeing up rotation spots.
00:34:43
But then, also more importantly for me has a GM.
00:34:46
It's freeing up salary count.
00:34:48
So my third decision would be Do everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky that is young in Christiano, Felicio Felicio.
00:34:59
There's no need to talk about him.
00:35:00
He's been a disappointment ever since he signed, but then that is Young and Santa Rosky.
00:35:06
I feel like I've not been up to par, so what? They're getting paid that Young earns around 12 to $14 million per year and then sat around here is 10 million per year.
00:35:18
And if you have young guys in both of those positions, which is point guard and wing, a small forward power forward, which is what we talked about is where the Bulls have the most death.
00:35:29
You can't have those guys like I get the idea You wanna have him as veterans and why not? You know you wanna help him, but then sat around skis 28.
00:35:38
So he's not really a better and he's still young.
00:35:39
He still has room to improve.
00:35:41
He played really good in Washington that one year John Wall was hurt and he was the starting point guard along with Bradley.
00:35:48
Beal was really good.
00:35:49
But you know you have done.
00:35:51
You have Kobe White.
00:35:53
If you draft a mellow, you could have Lemelle.
00:35:55
Oh, you have Arcidiacono both All three of those air Four of those are young players that fit the timeline of this team better than sat around skin.
00:36:06
He's already 10 million.
00:36:07
You could free up that cap space if you're not gonna play and then Fat Young.
00:36:11
Last year was not consistent.
00:36:13
He was not, you know, positive for most of the season for this team.
00:36:18
So I would look, um, to trade all three of them where I would trade them.
00:36:24
Well, Christiano Felicio.
00:36:26
I doubt he has that much value on the trade market, So if anything, I would look to keep him.
00:36:32
He's an expiring contracts, so you know, it's whatever.
00:36:36
But then fat young and sad hranjski, I feel like they fit best in Atlanta because Atlanta is a team that is a couple of pieces away, or maybe even right now, ready to be in the playoffs.
00:36:51
They're one of those teams that, along with Chicago, are fighting next year for that 7th, 8th, maybe six.
00:36:59
A seed in the Eastern Conference.
00:37:02
Um, there may be concerns in terms of trading where the team that is in the same boat as you, but in terms off, you know what Atlanta needs.
00:37:11
They need those veterans in both of those positions in point guard.
00:37:14
They need a backup to trade young, and they need someone who could be a veteran.
00:37:18
Saransk E.
00:37:19
Has been in the league.
00:37:20
He's played really well.
00:37:21
He's an international guy he's got basketball experience.
00:37:24
I feel like he could be the better.
00:37:25
Um, compliment.
00:37:27
To trade Young as a backup and then that Young is a win as a wing player.
00:37:31
Could play 3 to 4.
00:37:32
He has a lot of versatility, even on a bad day, so he could really help.
00:37:37
Um, Atlanta? I would get a couple, couple of first round or not a couple of first round picks, maybe a first and two seconds for both of them or something like that.
00:37:47
And it just kind of stuck up draft picks for the future.
00:37:51
And then, besides salary, Cappio obviously free up around 23 24 million per year by trading both of them, both of their contracts inspire at the end of the 2021 2022 ah season.
00:38:06
You also free up rotational spots for the guys We draft at four and then at the second round the wing and then at point guard for the guys we dropped in for the guys who have been on this team for a couple of years now that every time that they get a chance to play guys like Arcidiacono and shock Harrison guys that when they play, they play good.
00:38:30
It's just that when the team is healthy, there's no spot.
00:38:33
There's no consistent spot for them in in the rotation.
00:38:35
So trade them and the off season I have.
00:38:38
My next decision is filled around the signing other, cheaper veterans that can fit in the team and kind of help them fill that boy without having to pay them $24 million in combined.
00:38:50
So that would be my third.
00:38:53
Yeah.
00:38:54
Third decision.
00:38:55
Do everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky.
00:38:57
Daddy is young and Christiano Felicio.
00:39:01
Yeah, All right.
00:39:02
So I do like the idea of making a trade with Atlanta.
00:39:05
Who do you think would be somebody that they could get from Atlanta if they made that trade? Like, who do you think would be available? I don't think you have to get anyone because Atlanta has a lot of cap space.
00:39:19
E don't have.
00:39:21
Yeah, go ahead.
00:39:22
I know they do have a lot of cap space, but I think they also have a couple of guys that I might like to add some depth more specifically in the front court.
00:39:34
Well, I I scatter.
00:39:36
I I scouted their team.
00:39:38
And if you look at their front court, I don't think any.
00:39:42
I don't think they're willing to trade any of those guys because DeAndre Hunter is obviously a rookie.
00:39:47
They're not going to trade him camera the same thing.
00:39:51
Bruno, Fernando, If anything, I guess.
00:39:55
One of the centers.
00:39:56
But then my thing with the center position is I really like Gafford e.
00:40:02
I really like Daniel Gafford as a backup, and he's only 22.
00:40:05
When he played last year, he was really good.
00:40:07
But then as well, he was also injured a lot.
00:40:10
And then one look, Carter as well.
00:40:12
So in the best case scenario, I want Carter as a starting and Gafford as a backup.
00:40:17
Cornett played his solid.
00:40:19
He could be the third center off the bench.
00:40:22
But then, if we're going to get someone from Atlanta, you could get either Fernando or Damien Jones and Damien Jones, I believe, is a free agent this year.
00:40:32
So you could probably probably one of those centers have insurance for Carter on Gafford.
00:40:40
But I guess you could get one of those.
00:40:43
Yeah, um, the guy that I saw on Atlanta's roster, even though he didn't really play for them this year.
00:40:51
I think somebody who doesn't play center, he's not gonna take up any a gaffe Ridge minutes.
00:40:56
But I think if you could get a scalpel, love you see a I think he's a guy who still has potential.
00:41:03
He just never had.
00:41:04
He never had the opportunity to show it because he was in Sacramento, who always has, like, 20 guys on the team and players.
00:41:10
They're just gonna get buried anyway.
00:41:12
And then he was in Portland, which I think I don't know if it was you or if it was Daryl who was talking about how good Portland from court is.
00:41:21
But that kind of killed his minutes there.
00:41:23
And then there was a knee injury that stopped him from playing in Atlanta.
00:41:26
I think you I think he could be a good fit at power forward if if they just want to like on him in because I mean, he's obviously not playing over John Collins.
00:41:35
Yeah, so if they had to get rid of somebody, I think they could get rid of him and then we could use him as depth when we're getting rid of those bad contracts we have mhm.
00:41:46
Well, it's funny you say that it is very funny.
00:41:50
You say that because Labissiere is a free agent this year and it's funny you bring him up specifically because that brings me to my fourth decision, which is deaf signings, which is guys like I did with Rex guys that I would look at to add depth to the roster.
00:42:06
You know, you have veterans, guys that can improve the team, guys that fill out needs.
00:42:11
You have all all of these things here and one of the guys I have here.
00:42:16
Ironically enough, it's scallop.
00:42:18
BC a.
00:42:19
For all the things you just said.
00:42:20
I really like him as a mid range shooter.
00:42:23
Has a low post player every time he's had a chance to show his potential.
00:42:28
He's played really good.
00:42:29
But as you said, he's been in teams that either are incompetent or are stacked in this position.
00:42:35
So I really I would really like scallop BC a the other guys, I would like just some notable piece.
00:42:42
I'm gonna throw some names and kind of say why, uh, Noah Vonleh for the same reason.
00:42:48
Uh, he's a former bowl.
00:42:49
He's at.
00:42:50
He's added a lot of versatility to his game since getting out of Chicago with Portland and Denver and the Knicks.
00:42:57
So I feel like it could be a good death piece.
00:43:00
Juan Hernangomez is a good shooter.
00:43:02
He could also be a solid, deaf piece.
00:43:04
Alan Crab is a good shooter, good shooting guard.
00:43:08
You could pay him something close to the middle of the exception, and he could add some death and then can base more Courtney leave.
00:43:16
They both are veterans.
00:43:17
They both play good defense.
00:43:18
They're both solid enough shooters.
00:43:20
Base more played really well with the King's last year after being traded, um, from Portland and then Courtney Lee.
00:43:27
I just really like Courtney, like every time he's played.
00:43:29
He's one of the best three and the players in the league.
00:43:32
Not right now, but yeah, when he's had the chance and then two guys that I feel like are long shots that could really, really improve the team, our Jeremy Grant and pushed and Christian water.
00:43:48
Now both of those guys granted to come to Chicago, they will have to take something less than what they would get in other teams.
00:43:58
Christian would I saw his market was around 10 million or $9 million which is crazy to me.
00:44:05
But if that's his market, Chicago has a chance to sign us, so I would definitely go through him.
00:44:11
And that will make much more sense when I get to my fifth decision and then a guy like Jeremy Grant who is versatile.
00:44:19
He proved in Denver, especially in the playoffs against the Lakers, that he's a solid two way player.
00:44:26
You know, if he's shooting like he's shooting against the Lakers and he has that versatile oven offensive game, he can add a lot of Valley to the Chicago team with the versatility he brings, like everything you talked about with basically, but times two or times three, like he's that good and he's that good oven impact granted is gonna have to take less than you know.
00:44:50
Another team might offer him like uh, you know, 15 million per years what other teams might offer him here in Chicago.
00:44:58
He might have to take around 11 or 12 million per season, but if he's willing to come here, which would be one of the better teams that would be offering in the contract That is a major major plus to this team.
00:45:12
But those are some of the guys at shooting guard and then at power forward that I would look to add for death on this team.
00:45:22
Yeah, I think I think Christian would might.
00:45:24
Could be good for who is the other power forward.
00:45:27
You said Jeremy Grand.
00:45:29
Okay, I'm gonna repeat all the guys I e I definitely like Grant.
00:45:34
I definitely like wood.
00:45:36
I'm not a huge fan of hernangomez.
00:45:39
Yeah, And then I also I also said, Let me see a who you talked about Noah Vonleh, a Allen Crabbe, Courtney Lee and Ken Base more? Yeah, those guards.
00:45:50
I'm not too high on, but I mean that.
00:45:52
I mean, we're basically talking about the same point here because my fourth point is also just talking about free agents.
00:45:58
Um, I do have a couple of guards or forwards.
00:46:04
Um I mean, this is just like a if we're under, like, the 14 man minimum, and we need somebody else.
00:46:12
I think Josh Jackson could just be a give him a small contract to see what happens.
00:46:17
Type guy.
00:46:18
But one of the one of the guards that I would really love toe have is like, Ah, back up would be if we could get Alonso tree here because I did watch.
00:46:29
I watched a little bit too much of him his rookie year in New York, and I mean, it's It's the Knicks that's so dysfunctional, like he would play really well for a good stretch of games.
00:46:40
And then it would just be bench coach's decision.
00:46:43
You just You just have to ask why, like you couldn't understand what they were doing with them.
00:46:48
But he is a good all around score if he I think I don't remember what the problems were he had at Arizona, but something happened to him at Arizona that kind of killed his draft stock.
00:47:00
Otherwise he would have been drafted much higher than he waas or if you know, if the Knicks just signed him as a free agent.
00:47:07
I don't remember, um, but I think he would be a really good edition.
00:47:12
Um, I like I would like maybe seeing what would happen if we could get Harry Giles because I know it.
00:47:24
That's something that hurts like gaffers development.
00:47:27
I know they're both kind of centers.
00:47:28
But I think Giles has developed enough of a jumper to shoot out to mid range that he could slide over to just being an athletic power forward, that it could work for us.
00:47:40
And then, um what was it? I mean, this is one where I've been high on him since he was with, directed his team in Philly, and I know he's restricted, but and I mean, this is why I don't see this one happening because we'd have to offer Sorry, it's way too much money for him for the Sun's not to match it, but I mean that type of guy.
00:48:06
As a power forward, he can stretch the floor.
00:48:09
He's just really creative around the basket because, you know, he's not really going over people, but he has the moves to get around them on the inside.
00:48:18
He would just be a good, solid offensive piece.
00:48:21
Um, and then, like you said, Jeremy Grant would be another guy that I like, Um, but I mean, that's pretty much it.
00:48:30
I don't want to go for one of the big names because that would just be like I don't want to kill our cap now when we're gonna have to start paying people in a couple of years.
00:48:40
Yeah.
00:48:41
So I would like taking shots on some of those younger guys on smaller deals.
00:48:47
Yeah, it seems like Chicago like going to the first point.
00:48:51
You kind of want to stay in the rebuild, but also steadily improved, which goes perfectly with your point, which is signed.
00:48:58
Some of those under the radar guys.
00:49:01
I like Josh Jackson.
00:49:03
I like him as a player.
00:49:04
I also like Harry Giles and I lost so drear my thing with those guys, it would, um, mess up the rotation.
00:49:14
They would mess up the other young guys that have minutes set up.
00:49:18
Guys like Jackson and Trigger have been inconsistent with career.
00:49:21
You could make the argument.
00:49:22
It's more of a New York problem than him, but he's also a small guard, and I feel like you have.
00:49:27
We have a lot of guards that could feel fill up that void.
00:49:31
Josh Jackson on the waited, the wait and see contracts type of deal.
00:49:36
I like it, but we also have a lot of wings, so it we wouldn't have too much minutes to kind of wait and see, because I'd rather developed the other guys that have already proven on the team.
00:49:47
They could be very effective.
00:49:48
Parry Giles.
00:49:49
I really, really, really like him.
00:49:52
But along with Dario, Sarge, my thing with those is that I doubt their original teams who wanna let go of them that easily.
00:50:00
Uh, Sacramento.
00:50:01
I would be shocked if they let him go.
00:50:03
Same thing with Phoenix, but both of both of those guys, especially Giles.
00:50:08
But with all the injuries Sacramento had this past year proved he can play really good as a starter, getting really good minutes.
00:50:15
So I doubt him.
00:50:16
And Sarge, we're going.
00:50:17
And then on the Jeremy Grant thing, we both angry.
00:50:21
Yeah.
00:50:22
What's, um what's Giles contract look like? So I'm not seeing him as a restricted free agent.
00:50:28
And unless he has, like, a team option, I don't see him with a player option.
00:50:33
So unless Sacramento just wants Thio offer him that much more than what anybody else would offer him, I think he's gettable.
00:50:41
No child is unrestricted.
00:50:42
I just I just got it here.
00:50:44
Yeah, he's unrestricted.
00:50:46
Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
00:50:47
Because that might be one of the things where Sacramento always has a lot of forwards.
00:50:52
Even though he got them in his this year, he might think if they're healthy, he might not get those minutes next year.
00:50:56
So he might try to find somewhere else.
00:50:59
Yeah, that's a good observation.
00:51:01
That's a good point.
00:51:02
Right? Uh, so, how many decisions you got left? Yeah, I got one left.
00:51:08
E got one left This.
00:51:10
Well, so All right, Let's see.
00:51:14
So my my last this my last decision, would just be to get rid of the rest of the front office like Gar packs was there. They sucked.
00:51:23
They got rid of one of them.
00:51:24
Finally, they got a little bit better.
00:51:27
They need to get rid of the rest.
00:51:28
Like they need to get rid of whoever is left because that front office sucked.
00:51:33
Just let's let's go.
00:51:35
Not necessarily.
00:51:36
Well, I guess technically, clean house, But like, those owners have been constantly mismanaging this team forever.
00:51:44
Like like Jordan and Pippen were able to do it because they were just that competitive and wanted.
00:51:50
Like like they knew they got underpaid and Gar packs wouldn't even give them more money after they signed a bad deal just because they're like, No, that's the deal you signed.
00:52:01
It doesn't matter how good you get.
00:52:02
We're keeping you on that deal and it's like, Come on, they've been staying here forever and they've been doing it on almost no money.
00:52:08
You can't help out a true superstar one time and like they're just so hardheaded.
00:52:14
They live so far in the past.
00:52:16
We need Thio.
00:52:17
We need to change something because if we can get both of them out of there, that will be the top down start to change the culture.
00:52:25
I like Billy Donovan.
00:52:26
I like the new guy they brought in.
00:52:28
I think Billy Donovan is going to get a good coaching staff with him.
00:52:31
Um, hopefully this new guy is he can draft not terribly like we have been for the most part outside of the last couple of years, Um, and then that'll like that's just like the shot of energy that we need to really get back to being a great team because I think as long as those guys they're they're they're going to keep messing up contracts and it's going to keep us as like we can get up to be like a good team.
00:52:58
But with those guys there, I don't see us being like a great like like, yo, Boulder gonna win the championship this year type team.
00:53:07
Yeah, that would be I mean that that's kind of a dream scenario.
00:53:13
A za general manager.
00:53:15
Uh, I know I wouldn't be able to do that, but yeah, that's that's desirable, Especially with the culture.
00:53:22
By like culture, people don't understand how important culture is and team success.
00:53:28
I mean, you look a, you know, it's it's the obvious choice.
00:53:31
But a team like Miami with their culture, they've had sustained success and then even teams that aren't known for their culture teams like San Antonio Golden State.
00:53:42
Okay, see, with KD and Russ like those guys, those teams have cultures, and that's, you know, the importance of cultures oftentimes underestimated and not only the MBA but in all sports.
00:53:54
So I definitely I definitely would agree with that culture part.
00:53:58
I feel like the the new executive from Denver.
00:54:01
He would bring some of that culture elements Denver being one of those other teams that has also been competitive for the past number of seasons.
00:54:10
My last decision is there's not that radical.
00:54:14
I'm just I'm just gonna say that, um it involves an odd man out, you know, later.
00:54:20
Earlier you were talking about Sack Levin being You didn't say those exact words, but it's basically the odd man out situation where, out of that young core, Levine is the guy that that has to go.
00:54:33
Well, I'm not going to say this guy has to go, but this guy has to prove himself this year for him to not go.
00:54:42
And that's Lowry marketed.
00:54:44
We talked about.
00:54:46
I talked about marketing being garbage last year, like I drafted that dude on my fantasy team because I was expecting a big jump.
00:54:54
And he went from averaging 18 points on 43% from the field, 36% from three to averaging 14 points on 42% and then 34% from the field and from three respectively.
00:55:08
Dude just took a downgrade on offense.
00:55:11
On defense, you said he doesn't even try on occasions, and then he was hurt.
00:55:15
You only playing 50 games.
00:55:17
So marketing it along with some of the players in his 2017 draft class, is eligible for an extension this offseason.
00:55:28
I'm not signing him to an extension like the dude has toe earn his spot.
00:55:33
Has the starting power forward moving forward, and I wouldn't trade him because, you know, piggybacking on my last point.
00:55:40
He had a terrible year last season and he was injured.
00:55:43
So you know, in my mind, I don't think other teams have that much value for him because it's either a.
00:55:51
It was a bad year.
00:55:52
He'll be fine or be.
00:55:54
His first two seasons were great.
00:55:56
This 30 year was the norm, now moving forward.
00:55:58
So I don't think other teams will give that much to get Lowry Market.
00:56:05
And I don't think many teams have a spot for Larry Marketing that at least the same spot Chicago House for him.
00:56:12
So I won't.
00:56:13
My fifth decision would be to not sign him to a extension, um, make improve himself this year, and that kind of justifies my decision to draft a guy like Obi Topping.
00:56:24
If he's available, you could slide him at that four spot.
00:56:27
Moving forward.
00:56:28
You know, marketing doesn't have a good year this season this upcoming season.
00:56:32
Yeah, I will let him walk, you can walk and then you can move forward with the Obi Topping and then maybe resigned Otto Porter to a way, way, way less than 28 million per year contract and move forward with that.
00:56:47
But my odd man out in this young core is Lowry Market, and and my first decision would be to not sign him to a necks tension the own.
00:56:58
The only way I could ever consider just letting him walk.
00:57:02
Because he is the most size that we have on this roster.
00:57:07
The only way I could justify letting him walk is toe also.
00:57:12
Still do what I said in trade Zach Lavine, because looking at the upcoming drafts, there are really good big men.
00:57:21
But I think if we let him walk and keep Zach Lavine, then we're at a loss at power forward because my stock on Obi Topping is so low.
00:57:32
I honestly do not think he's gonna be good at all.
00:57:37
I just don't see it, um, and there's just so many guys coming up that, like, if you can wait like if you can play this year with him and then let him walk and wait for next year.
00:57:52
There's guys like the Mobile.
00:57:53
Is that USC who are really good.
00:57:55
If we could get a high pick, we could get one of them.
00:57:58
Even if you wait till 2022 you got guys like Chat Holmgren, who could play center and then because he is a good floor facer.
00:58:06
But he's so tall he needs to play center.
00:58:09
So then it's just like forward center.
00:58:12
You just go.
00:58:13
Carter Jr and Holmgren, Even though Carter Jr is never gonna be a true power forward, that just might be the guy he defends because of hunger in size.
00:58:23
So that's the only way I could see them letting him walk, because you would have to trade Levine to get a pick that you know will end up being, Ah, hi, lottery.
00:58:33
Pick to kind of guarantee yourself that safety net of being able to get another good promising power forward to replace marketing.
00:58:42
And I don't see that in this year's class.
00:58:49
Well, I think that would be I don't I think I would do that with, like, not necessarily, you know, like a solution.
00:58:58
Right now, I feel like you just let him walk.
00:59:01
If he like? If he doesn't play good, he's not going to get that many offers, you know, for ah, hire contract.
00:59:08
So at the very least, you could resign.
00:59:11
I could resign him for something below what I would be paying him right now.
00:59:18
Um, there's also like, market also has the pressure that this is a contract here.
00:59:22
Like everything I'm saying.
00:59:24
He should know that eso at the very least, you could still bring him back, move them at the deadline again.
00:59:32
This all depends on when the deadline is when the season comes up in regular cir***stances.
00:59:37
Uh, you know, he has to prove himself, like to me.
00:59:41
He just has to prove himself.
00:59:43
He can't keep playing like he did last year, and then me go out and paying him more than $10 million which is something along the lines of what he should be asking for.
00:59:55
Uh, you could still, if he if he doesn't play good, you either resign him for something less less than you would think You would be paying him right now or you let him walk.
01:00:06
Uh, say we draft, I'll be topping.
01:00:09
We can move forward with him.
01:00:10
at the floor and still, you know, play somewhat small.
01:00:14
Which is what the game is.
01:00:15
Heading Thio now And, uh, you know, even for his length, like, I don't think like his length makes and good on offense.
01:00:25
But if your concern is on defense, he doesn't try that much on defense.
01:00:30
And he Onley averages around 63 He only average six rebounds per game last year, which is what we're using as reference right now.
01:00:38
So the length is not as big as a concern to me as it is to you, which is in terms of preference.
01:00:46
There's really not a right or wrong answer there.
01:00:48
But I feel like at the end of the day, with that decision, I just want to say that market and has to prove himself like his spot in this future is not promised.
01:01:00
Like you're on that out of Sokolov.
01:01:01
My odd man out is Ah, Larry Laurie Marketing.
01:01:06
Thank you.
01:01:07
Yeah, I Yeah, I think, uh, I don't know.
01:01:14
I think I think marketing in a Billy Donovan definitely has a better offense.
01:01:19
And there's a better scheme for this team than then what they had last year So I think that will be a good improvement to his game already.
01:01:30
And if he can get back up to being just a pretty good player, I don't need him to be a great player right now.
01:01:36
I need him to be pretty good and just with him being pretty good, we can get guys who can be great players, and then it just everything I'm thinking of is just trying.
01:01:49
Thio fit the timeline for the future, and I'm just worried.
01:01:56
Exactly.
01:01:57
Beans have what to a C L surgery is already or something like that.
01:02:01
The guy who made most of his living so far.
01:02:04
I know he's a good three point shooter, but so far in his career, most of his like living has come off of being a great athlete.
01:02:11
When you've already had two A C L surgeries, I don't know.
01:02:16
I just I can't be sure about how long of a career that's going to give him.
01:02:22
So, like if he ends up having like bad legs by the time he's 32 or 33 then what we kept him and couldn't we weren't able to get what we should have gotten for him now for him.
01:02:34
Thio be done in six years when all these other guys air entering their prime.
01:02:39
E think it's just more of a risk trying to bet on a guy that's had that many big injuries being your star player for the next 89 years, when you could get a good haul for him right now and then build something that's gonna make the team as a whole better for the next decade.
01:03:01
If they stay, I want to ask you something in regards to that.
01:03:05
But before I dio, I want to say, I agree with you on that On the Larry market and things like his first year, he averaged 15 points per game on 43%.
01:03:15
Like during his entire career, he's roamed around 43% from the field and then 35% from three.
01:03:22
And if he his best year was the second year he averaged 18 points per game.
01:03:27
I don't need him to go up to 20.
01:03:30
If he could stay at around 18 or 17 that that's all I could ask for because then you have you had to add the fact he's 7 ft if he's if he's somewhat tries on defense, he could be the best impact defender besides Chris done on this team.
01:03:47
And he could be a problem.
01:03:49
You know what? What we would call a problem on the picking Pop if he could improve around the rim.
01:03:54
If he could play consistently in the post like he could be a problem for, for for the team.
01:04:01
If he plays well, I just need him toe to come back to second year for him.
01:04:04
I don't need him to jump to 20 points per game.
01:04:07
Like if you could do with them, you know, fine, I won't.
01:04:10
I won't complain if he does it, but if he doesn't, I just need him to not be what he was last year.
01:04:17
At least that's my thought and then on the sack.
01:04:19
Levin thing isn't your concern.
01:04:22
Which is a legitimate concern, I might add, isn't that same concern.
01:04:28
Uh, like, doesn't that come off? That's the same thing that happened with Jimmy Butler, because the way you're explaining is kind of the same thing that happened.
01:04:37
You know, he didn't have injuries, but he was a shooting guard.
01:04:40
He was their best wing player they were building around him, but he got to the point where the team wasn't going anywhere and they did him trade him when they had the deals for Boston in place where they would acquire a lot of picks and then young guys.
01:04:57
And then they ended up trading him to Minnesota for, you know, Levin and marketing and done, which is what they have now.
01:05:03
So is that concern somewhat resemble the Jimmy Butler situation or stop just pure coincidence? Um, it resembles it a little bit.
01:05:16
Um, I don't think it's completely the same because I think if they if they don't trade them, it's fine.
01:05:23
I think with Jimmy, if they didn't trade him, it was gonna be a problem because Jimmy Butler he was tired of being in Chicago.
01:05:30
It's happened most of the places he's gone to so far, like he just gets tired of it, and he just like he just wanted to be out.
01:05:39
So we had to find something to get for him.
01:05:42
I think I think the concerns air different in it, being like a morale thing for Jimmy and it being an injury thing for Zack like Zack.
01:05:52
I don't want him to get another big injury and then have every team be scared away from going after him like he's had a couple decently healthy seasons in a row like last year.
01:06:03
Not so much this year was probably his closest thing.
01:06:06
That having a healthy season and I think before every team labels him his injury prone, I wanted I want to sell high when we have the option and I see because it's something people are really starting to talk about.
01:06:21
The 2022 draft class is going to be one of the most loaded draft classes since LeBron James's draft, because that's the year where every where all the players can either choose to go straight from high school to the MBA or Goto like you get all like the one and done, and then you also get all the really good freshman.
01:06:45
So you get everybody that could have come out of high school.
01:06:48
That's going to be stuck having to play one year of college next year.
01:06:53
So the 2021 class, so you get the best of two draft classes, which is why I think trading of now when when teams aren't thinking so much about saying we need to keep this 2020 to pick if you can start Thio.
01:07:07
If you can start to stock up on those pics now, you're going to set yourself up for a really bright future.
01:07:13
Which is why I love what Oklahoma City has and what New Orleans has.
01:07:17
And when I think we can have.
01:07:19
If we can get rid of well, I don't want to say get rid of because that sounds mean.
01:07:22
But if we can move Zach Lavine for some future assets, which I think have a much higher upside right now, then what we could keep if we keep moving, that makes sense.
01:07:37
That makes sense.
01:07:38
All of the moves makes sense, obviously, two different mindsets in terms of managing an off season, which you know it's acceptable.
01:07:45
There's no right or wrong answer we've seen throughout the years to managing a team.
01:07:50
So to recap, I wanna, you know, say our decisions real quick.
01:07:53
Just say them, you know, didn't know explanation required for my five decisions.
01:07:59
It would be in terms of resigning.
01:08:01
Skip creep, Kristen at all costs also resigned that sell Ballantine, Shaquille Harrison.
01:08:07
Number two would be draft the best player available either Denny or be topping Orla Melo ball, preferably number three.
01:08:15
Do Everything I can to trade Thomas Oseransky, Daddy is Young and Christiano Felicio in a move to free up cap space and rotation spots.
01:08:22
Number four will be the death signings I mentioned earlier.
01:08:25
And then Number five.
01:08:26
The last one b two Not resign to not sign Laurie Marketing Toe.
01:08:31
One extension.
01:08:34
Yep, that sounds good.
01:08:35
And for my five, I have draft some.
01:08:41
One of the players have either tyreese caliber in Lemelle Oh ball Or Who was the third guy? He was the guy from France.
01:08:51
Halliburton.
01:08:53
Gillian Hayes.
01:08:54
Killian.
01:08:55
Hes so either Hayes, Halliburton or Lemelle a ball.
01:08:58
And then, for my second move, I would, uh, if possible, trade Levin toe Oklahoma City for a combination of Baizley and their pick with Denver this year and a future first.
01:09:14
It doesn't even have to be their future.
01:09:16
First, they have so many future first round picks from other teams.
01:09:18
Just any of those would be good.
01:09:20
Um, my third pick would be to use that pick that we could possibly get from Oklahoma City to draft a player like Jada McDaniel's who I think Phil's another role once Otto Porter probably leaves after next season.
01:09:38
My fourth move would be to try to sign some players like Harry Giles, Alando Tree here and some other depth pieces.
01:09:48
And my fifth and final idea is obviously, you got to get rid of oligarch packs out front office was not it.
01:09:58
You gotta keep the new guy you got.
01:10:01
Just build out a new front office, just start everything at the top over, keep the young guys and then just see if, uh, see if Billy Donovan and them can get it done.
01:10:13
Mhm.
01:10:14
You hear it, people, You heard it here, people.
01:10:17
After this dream is over, I'll do a poll.
01:10:20
So you guys, you guys on my Twitter, that's and I don't have 75.
01:10:24
Think about who you think made the best decisions.
01:10:27
But now let's get off our imagination.
01:10:30
Off of RGM seat.
01:10:32
It was fun while it lasted.
01:10:33
Let's get back to reality Has fans of the game.
01:10:38
What do you think realistically, the Chicago Bulls will do this offseason sort of draft signings.
01:10:45
Resigning is possible.
01:10:46
Trades What do you think? As a fan, they will actually do.
01:10:52
Things Just got real pessimistic.
01:10:55
Really bad.
01:10:57
Um, we're probably just gonna sit there and draft Obi Topping.
01:11:03
Have them end up with the same type of careers.
01:11:05
Denzel Valentine.
01:11:06
We're going to continue to suck, because that's just how it goes.
01:11:10
Um, we're not gonna do anything to get future draft picks.
01:11:14
Is one of the bulls ever done anything to get actual future draft picks that aren't in the same season where we're just giving up players who are better than what we're going to get? Um, no. Probably.
01:11:26
I mean, you know what? No, that's getting a little bit too far out there, but I'd say you know them before the contract extension deadline.
01:11:33
Just signed Felicio again.
01:11:35
You know, he's big.
01:11:38
You can like, he'll take up space.
01:11:41
They're gonna they're gonna try toe there.
01:11:46
They're going to think they should try toe win now with Zach Lavine.
01:11:48
And then they'll probably end up trading Kobe white for some, like bum power forward to put behind Lowry Market in.
01:11:57
It's just nothing is gonna be good.
01:11:59
We're not gonna do anything. Correct.
01:12:01
I'm not excited for it.
01:12:05
I do agree on the part for that.
01:12:10
I don't think but necessarily.
01:12:11
But I don't think they're going to do a lot of moves.
01:12:14
I I'm leaning towards the fact that they will resign.
01:12:18
Cristian, Hopefully, Hopefully they re signed Chris Done Shack, Harrison and then and then and then Valentine.
01:12:26
I'm not entirely sure because Ballentine has been hurt and they have a lot of death there.
01:12:32
And then Harrison they have a lot of depth at the guard spot.
01:12:34
So those guys, I'm up in the air on thinking they would really resigned them in terms of trades.
01:12:41
I doubt they're gonna trade anyone nor Levine nor marketing.
01:12:45
I wouldn't be entirely surprised that they end up signing market into an extension that, you know, uh, going on the logic that they trust in his development and what other bull**** that I think of.
01:12:57
But realistically, I feel like they're not going to do anything major for the good.
01:13:03
Obviously, there's rumors roaming around that they might look at guys like Christian Water Jeremy Grant, which if they signed one of them, then I doubt market is getting his extension, and those would be really good pieces throughout to their team.
01:13:18
At least those are the biggest names Uh, you could think about in terms of actual rumors that the Bulls are moving towards in terms of the top four.
01:13:31
The fourth pick, it really all depends on what the top three teams dio, um o b top and, of course, has been sounding.
01:13:38
Danny has been rumored low Melo husband rumored.
01:13:42
So it really all depends on what those three teams dio Golden State Minnesota in Charlotte with their pick.
01:13:49
And then I feel like for the better, they're gonna go with practically the same team until into next year to see how they do with Billy Donovan.
01:14:02
Because the Jim Boylan experiment was a failure again.
01:14:07
Whether you think it was a bad coach or good coach, it just didn't work.
01:14:11
He didn't fit with those guys.
01:14:13
Billy Donovan fits with young guys.
01:14:15
He's not that old for a head coach himself, and he worked wonders with the Rebuild last year with O. K C.
01:14:22
On here in Chicago with the new front office.
01:14:25
New guys, that guy from Denver who's done a did a good job with the Nuggets.
01:14:30
I feel like they want to see how it goes this year with that new sort of identity with Donovan, see what kind of ideas he brings to your point.
01:14:41
He's a better, uh, scheme maker on offense and defense than Jim Boylan, and I'll practice is gonna be a better experience.
01:14:48
I just feel like that, Coach, the player relationship is gonna be better.
01:14:51
Therefore, I don't think they're gonna make too many news.
01:14:55
And then if things stay the same this year, then then I feel like you would see rumors about guys possibly being moved or the Bulls making a big signing or whatnot.
01:15:07
But I agree with you, they're not going to do much.
01:15:10
But I don't view it in the negative.
01:15:12
Obviously, you view it in a negative.
01:15:13
You've been a Bulls fan, uh, since that since you know, basically your entire basketball life and it hasn't been too good for you, but I view it in the positive side.
01:15:24
I feel like this the first year on a new phase of the rebuilding.
01:15:29
If that makes any sense, I feel like, um, it's the beginning of something good in this upcoming season for the Bulls.
01:15:37
Yeah, and I mean, Thio actually be serious for a second.
01:15:41
I do think something Billy Donovan will dio That's gonna be really good for the team as a whole.
01:15:47
I think he's gonna find ways to best utilize Chandler how Justin and Daniel Gafford Because Daniel Gafford is gonna be the closest thing he has toe what Steven Adams was able to do for Oklahoma City.
01:15:59
He's gonna be a good pick and roll guy.
01:16:01
He's a good shot blocker.
01:16:03
He's a good rebounder.
01:16:04
I think Billy Donovan is gonna do the most with what Gafford can give him and then just Hutchison as a small forward who has guard type skills even with his length, I think Billy Donovan is gonna find a way for him to play more and get, like, impactful minutes, which I would love to see to help improve the depth because I am very high on both of those guys.
01:16:29
I just didn't think they got much of a chance with boiling, so I would I'm actually excited to see that to go along with the starting five.
01:16:38
Still, I'm just I'm so not looking forward to the draft because e think they're just going to take the biggest name from college, which was, I think they're going to take the biggest name from college, which was topping.
01:16:53
If he's the only one that's left and then it's, I think it's just gonna be a repeat of what Valentine did.
01:16:59
Is gonna be a four year small forward type guy who people saw play well in college and then he's not gonna perform The MBA.
01:17:09
Shouldn't be like, Well, good job wasting another lottery pick, guys, because this is not it.
01:17:15
Uh huh.
01:17:17
Well, it's been fun.
01:17:19
Whatever happens will be paying attention on the moving into next season.
01:17:24
Whatever next season is, we'll be talking about it.
01:17:27
This was the second edition of If I Was a GM, the Chicago Bulls edition chatting with Stephen Moose.
01:17:34
We would do individually as the general manager of the Chicago Bulls, Stephen and anything you want to shout out before we're done.
01:17:42
Yeah, I mean, you can follow me on Twitter at Stephen Carlson 97.
01:17:48
You know, it Z gonna be a lot of UConn stuff right now, because UConn's really good.
01:17:53
So I like talking about my teams that are really good, even though it doesn't happen that often, right? I'm gonna t something that we haven't fully finalized yet, but I think we're going to do it soon.
01:18:05
I can't wait for us to do that to do the MBA mock draft where we get all four of us back together.
01:18:11
You, me, Rex and Darryl.
01:18:13
That's gonna be fun.
01:18:14
If we can get that set up soon.
01:18:16
Yeah.
01:18:17
Be sure to stay tuned for all we dio.
01:18:20
Ah, Stephen.
01:18:21
As he said as he referred Thio in passing, he does college basketball streams with Rex.
01:18:29
Now the breakdown sports.
01:18:30
Be sure to follow us on all of our social media's and, you know, all four of us.
01:18:35
May, Stephen, Rex, Darryl and myself.
01:18:39
We do the basketball strings together.
01:18:41
It's a whole lot of fun when we are together.
01:18:45
Last time last time.
01:18:46
The stream with Rex with the Philadelphia 76.
01:18:48
It was really fun with you, Stephen.
01:18:50
It was equally as fun.
01:18:52
Thank you so much for coming on, bro. Was a pleasure.
01:18:56
And for all of you to and then it's a pleasure having you here.
01:18:59
So stay safe.
01:19:00
Um, stay tuned for the next episode of Siri's and take care.
01:19:05
God bless you all.
01:19:06
See you later, guys.

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