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So, you know, let's get into it a little bit while we have you on.
Let's let's talk about some Syracuse stuff.
You know, obviously you just had your Jersey retired at the North Carolina game last season.
But, you know, take it back to you know, your early days in Rochester.
Uh, you know how How did you start playing basketball? And at what point did you realize that? Okay, this is something that I could have success with in life.
Well, I was a late bloomer.
I didn't actually play organized basketball until eighth grade.
Up until then, I was all about boxing and football.
On in eighth grade, I finally tried basketball.
I wasn't that good, and I end up you know, going to this camp.
Mr Duck Child's paid for me to go to that camp, and it changed my life.
Um, you know, it was because I wasn't that good, So I was driven to get better.
So every day I woke up trying to get better, trying to beat guys who were smaller than me, which was so frustrating.
So that's what that's what That that's what, like fed my drive and my, you know, intestinal fortitude and everything else that helps make you become a professional player.
So it started in Rochester, started on the on the courts of E V back in the day a lot of times by myself, sometimes with some friends.
But, um, just never, never taken a day off, Given everything you have every single day until you're exhausted.
Eso So you're not that good when you start out.
Obviously, it takes a lot of work, a lot of skill, development, those sorts of things.
But what At what point did you really start to get good? At what point did you start to get, you know, attention from colleges like Syracuse and the like? Well, my first letter from Syracuse came into my sop****re year, so I played a It is ironic was last week and I was in.
I was in Delaware for basketball, came with my son Joe.
Joe and I hadn't been there in 30 years because the last time I was there was the time that changed my life.
Going to the Delaware Shootout back in the day.
I didn't play that great.
But, um, you know, I was talking to my God, ****ey Walker, who's in my AU coach.
And we were just talking about because he you know, obviously I was on the team with Rick Bronson.
Zara Sims are Long and Willy calling those guys all for those guys are way better than me and and a year older, and they played much better than me that weekend.
But all the college coaches were talking to him about me because of my potential, and I and I already had already had the S a T score necessary so that you know, I came home.
I was talking to Cornell already from basketball, trying to figure out US academic scholarship thing with Cornell.
So coming home that Monday Tuesday the Cornell coach, calling me, saying I heard you played pretty good Down in Delaware is probably no shot.
You want to come to the Cornell anymore? And I was like, Yeah, Coach Cornel is not happening.
E was looking at college coaches from I mean college letters from, you know, all the all the coach, all the all the colleges that I never thought I'd, you know, have a chance to play.
And then they were all, you know, letters on my bed.
And it was just life changing.
And then I got the letter from Syracuse not too long after that.
And that just made me work harder because I want, you know, everyone.
A lot of a lot of players get letters.
Now I want to begin an offer.
You know, that za completely different to getting a letter so into my software year, junior year.
You know, that's that's when I realized I was like, you know, my confidence was like, I'm good and I can really play.
Yeah, and obviously, you know, you go on to Syracuse.
But what what was it about Syracuse that stood out? Other than it being close to Rochester, you know, obviously close to home.
And, uh, you know, the Big East the carrier dome was Was it those things that stuck out or what was it that really made You want to go to Syracuse? Well, it's all that All those combination, you know, the combination of everything you just said.
Plus, um, my son, who's being born the end of my freshman year so that that played a part into it.
My mom, you know, I wanted to be close to my family, My mom and, you know, I know I had a chance to play immediately at Syracuse, and I love the Syracuse style of play.
Uh, Coach Mahan style of coaching and the players that were at the school already.
I got along with all those guys very well on my on my visit, so it's just a natural fit.
I fit right in right from day one, and I knew I made the right decision and, um, 30 years later, or whatever, you know, I realized that I definitely made the right decision, you know, having my jersey retired Onley solidified.
Um, the fact that I know I made the right decision because, you know, you get caught up in being a recruiting and you know, all these coaches and all these schools, they love you.
Sometimes you make a wrong decision, and it's his life changing.
And luckily for me, I made the right decision and Syracuse has been, um, the greatest thing has happened to me and giving me so much, and it's still giving me so much.
And I want to shout out to Syracuse and all my people up there.
And these are the people that don't get talked about my guy.
My colleague in up there was handling things and make Charlotte students.
They say Kelly Miller, who's making Charlotte? People say, Safe up there on campus and and all the things like that, it's a safety.
She's ahead of all the safety up there.
So shout out to those two people because you know they don't getting shoutouts or love what they're up to.
Make sure we're one of the few colleges that has all the students on campus running, you know, kind of like a as normal as it can be.
We have kids on college champions in um, being a father of a daughter who wishes she's on the college campus right now.
I know how important that is.
So I just wanted to get that in there.
Its's a challenging time, to say the least, with colleges across the country and the coronavirus.
So absolutely, absolutely.
Uh, you know, with that said, though, you know, back on the basketball front, you commit to Syracuse during a time when you know the program was under N CIA investigation looking a little bit rocky.
But, you know, you go on and you have a great four years.
And and Jim Boeheim has since called you the most important recruit in Syracuse basketball history.
Uh, there's there's a lot of good guys and and there's a lot of important players when you think back toe Dave Bang and other guys that have come through like the Pearl and you know Derrick Coleman and so on and so forth.
But what's what's it like to be, you know, thought of by your former head coach is the most important of all.
Well, that's the one thing I can always talk junk to the guys about.
I mean, Lawrence has got the scoring.
Derek has got the number one draft pick Overall, Billy's got arguably the greatest three years.
Melrose got the greatest one year ever.
Pros got the greatest legacy.
Rest in peace, you know, and eso To be mentioned with any of those guys is always, ah, blessing.
And, you know, I'm so appreciative, but to be called the most important, that's something I can, you know, say to those guys.
That coach never called you guys more important than me.
So But, you know, attack that time is like when I came in wearing number 44 I didn't realize, realizes the significance of it cause I'm 18.
I worked 44 in high school.
I'm wearing 44 because just like, you know, I I honored my commitment to Syracuse even though we're gonna go on probation because I love Syracuse, and I was like, All right, even if we're on probation for one N c.
A a tournament, I got three other years toe, uh, enjoy it and enjoy it.
So when you look back at it, yes, it was.
You know, Coach Boeheim is like, you know, if you come here, you're really not gonna miss that much in that one year your freshman year.
And he was right.
And I'm so happy I listened to him.
Andi ended up going to Syracuse and the greatest four years of my life.
I have so many friends from Syracuse I talked to on a daily basis and stay in touch with and do business with.
So going to Syracuse is the greatest thing I've done in my life.
In terms of everything.
You know, that first year, obviously, you mentioned it.
You don't go to the N C a. A tournament.
Uh, not eligible. Did.
Did play in the Big East tournament, but not the n c a a tournament.
How difficult was that first year knowing that.
Okay, you know, we could win as many games as we want here, but we're still not gonna go to the N.
A tournament at the end of the year was I imagine that's a difficult thing toe play through.
Yeah, it was tough, but you know, once the once the ball goes in there, man, everything else falls by the wayside and you're just trying to play ball, you know, no matter.
If you got 20 games that year.
30 games that year, Onda.
Unfortunately, we weren't able.
We were held, been on trying to win the Big East tournament and we lost a seat hall and we actually had a bad loss.
It was during the storm down there.
We got stuck in the hotel just a terrible time.
Um, you know, we were trying to end our season with a bang by one of the Big East tournament, even though we weren't gonna be, uh, CIA eligible.
But we fell a little short losing in the championship game toe, really good to see all team that year.
And I know I know in my heart way gave everything that we could that season.
And we went out with a bang, you know, losing in the championship game.
You know, Obviously it hurts, but at least you made it to the championship game.
And you know, speaking of that, we'll get Thio you know, your senior year and getting all the way to the title game before losing toe Kentucky.
But you know, the two years before that, you know, you really improved a ton.
Is a sop****re, had a really good freshman season but took on Maura's a sop****re in a junior.
And you know you go to the N.
A tournament that year, your sop****re year, and then you lose a no overtime game in the Sweet 16.
I believe the Arkansas Is that right? Arkansas? No, no.
We lost the Missouri All Missouri excuse.
Okay, so you know, you lose that game in O.
And then the next year, I believe it's it's another overtime loss.
The Arkansas, uh, what's it like? Get into the tournament and then being so close in those games to advancing on Lee to lose in overtime, you know, because you're right there, those air games that you can win, So so that's got to be a tough way toe go out in your season.
The Missouri game really hurt me because I was.
I was so sick and I could barely even move.
But I tried to play and I just didn't give our team anything.
I think I scored the first basket of the game and I don't think I scored again.
It's just a terrible game.
I don't have anything on.
I just I was distraught and that that fueled all my workouts that summer because I didn't.
You know, Lauren, Agent Archie had, like, the 31 in the second half.
Lawrence did what he did, but I didn't.
I didn't uphold my end of the bargain.
Like if I had just played got my average that game we win.
So that whole summer, that's all I thought about every workout.
And so going into the junior, I knew we were gonna, uh you know, I knew I was gonna do everything I had to do toe to play well, and hopefully our team was gonna put put ourselves in a position to do that, to be, you know, to go to the tournament again.
And ironically, we end up playing Arkansas.
Dwight Stewart and I we're on a, uh, like a all star team with Lou Carnesecca is the coach that summer over in Italy and we were talking about basically going back and forth, talking junk like man, we would beat you, they would beat us, and then we play one on one and I own them.
And I was just like, that's what's gonna happen when we played you guys in the game and He was just talking about his team defense.
And we had him that game like we had him that game.
We had him and I was talking so much junk.
Tow him and Corliss and anyone that had ears.
And, you know, I I remember that game. Video links.
I you know, Teoh know that the year before the team laws because you didn't play well.
And you know, in my mind we were about to win the game and I was playing well at the time.
It was like a redemption for, like, a personal redemption.
Because, no, it really hurt me that I didn't show up for my team the year before.
So you know, the be on the cusp of winning and then have it ripped from us the way it waas, you know, Lawrence, not knowing we didn't have time outs and calling one and everything.
Yeah, hurt in that team.
The Arkansas team made it to the championship game and lost the U.
We feel like we would have made it in one.
So it just hurt, man.
Yeah, You know, those were really good teams back then.
The Nolan Richardson years in Arkansas in the 40 minutes.
Yeah, that's right.
So So, Yeah, fast forward to the senior year.
And obviously you have those two losses that we're really close on, both of the O. T.
And as you mentioned, you know, your your sop****re to junior year that really fueled your workouts.
But going into the senior year, you had a chance toe GoPro, and, you know, you decided to come back to Syracuse.
So what? What went into that decision coming back for your senior year at Syracuse? Once again, it was Coach Boeheim, you know, pleading with me and my mom, Um, you know, all the way up to the 11th, you know, our like, you know, all the way.
Like because Bernie Bickerstaff gave me a call.
He was a coach at the Nuggets at the time, they had the 15th pick, and he assured me that if I was available in 15 he was gonna take me.
So I knew I was going to be at least top 15.
And when the whole process started, I was gonna be a mid second rounder early second round.
And in my mind, I was like, I put in so much work, I'd worked myself into the middle of the first round.
If I just keep working, maybe I could work into a top five pick.
And so that was part of the decision.
And, you know, coach behind, you know, not being relentless and and pursuing for me to come back and, you know, knowing that I need to plug some holes in my game.
And that's what I try to do, my senior.
And so, uh, you know, coach behind my mom, I just decided.
You know what? I'm just gonna go back to school and work as hard as I could probably work and put myself in a position.
Thio get drafted even higher and going back to sitting.
My seniors cement to my legacy and Syracuse.
And, you know, if I leave after my junior year, I'm just another good Syracuse player.
I was saying that that extra year and the title run that we had, and I mean, you know, the to the title game.
I mean, I wish we had the title making it to the title game and a team that no one thought was going to make it.
You know, Just, you know, it just really cemented our whole legacy up there as a whole.
And for me, individually, definitely put me in a on the with the lights of the ship.
You know, the the greats that played at Syracuse, which I hold near and dear to my heart because it's nothing is more important to me than being a great Syracuse basketball player.
You know, nowadays, if a kid has that opportunity nine times out of 10 that that could goes.
But you know, if if you think if you were coming up in today's era and everything is the same, do you think you would leave after your junior year or possibly sooner than that? Well, no, not me, because, like, I'll tell anyone Syracuse air the greatest four years of my life.
I loved every second of it.
If I could have got another four years, I would have did it.
So, no, you know, even though I was thinking about leaving my junior year, ultimately I ended up coming back, and, uh, you know, I love Syracuse, and I wish I could have stayed even longer, man.
You know what's what's better than college? You know, you have, like, not that many responsibilities.
You know, all the disposable income, you know, whatever.
Even if it's just $12 is your disposable $12? You could spend it on anything you wanted, You know what I mean? So, you know, college is just great, man.
You know, definitely, uh, you know, more carefree and responsibilities, like you said.
So, uh, you know, that's that's great.
But, you know, So let's let's talk about that senior year a little bit.
So, you know, you come back and you know, the pieces air there.
You got Lazar at the point and yourself, obviously, and some other talented pieces as well.
Did you guys know coming in that? That you could be special And, you know, maybe maybe not, make a run to the championship game, but but have a chance? Did you feel that coming into your senior year? Yeah, because I literally felt like I was gonna be the best player on the court.
And when you're when you have the best player on the court, you always have a chance to win s.
Oh, that was just my confidence going into every game.
I started the Sunday dinners at my apartment every Sunday in August.
The team, It was mandatory so that that built that made us even closer.
We needed that cohesiveness because, you know, as you can see, looking back, I was only n b a guy on that team, so we didn't have Ah, we weren't, you know, strewing talent every all over the place.
So we had we had to win with by loving each other and trusting each other and really, really liking each other on and off the court.
You know, that went a long way with us hanging out every Sunday.
You know, we got no stuff, games and Georgia games, and we got down.
We were ableto pull it together because we had true true love for each other on and off the court.
Yeah, So it started in August during Sunday dinners, and it ended in April against arguably the greatest college team.
And that's one of the things that you look going into your not thinking that you're thinking about the we're about to win.
I don't, uh I'm not think they have 89 n b a.
Guys on that team.
I'm thinking that guy and whoever else they bring can't guard me.
And we're about the win.
And that's just where you know, you know, on that night, if I didn't file out, I still feel like we would have won.
And and obviously, you know, Kentucky is the better team.
They have all that MBA talent, but that night, the way it was, it was playing out.
We had a really chance and and if it's always throws that alley, you consider the chest pass. I got deflected.
It has been a two point game.
I'm telling you, we had him.
Really? Yeah, they were Really? They didn't.
They were really, Man, I'm telling you, I could look in their face.
Tony Delk only had four points in the second half.
Those guys didn't really know what, like I'm telling you, man, it was just way couldn't We just couldn't get you know that that last foul and I told everyone I walked up to every breath and I told me they asked me, man, you know, I told everyone because that's what happened there was there was 23 bogus calls.
One guy that that one call one guy called Jump.
All the other guy came in, overruled him for a foul.
You know, I just I just didn't feel like I got a fair shake my senior year.
Yeah, you know, we'll talk about the title game, too.
But But you mentioned that the Sunday dinners.
You know why? Why did you start that was at a leadership thing.
Yeah, there's a leadership thing is letting you know, You know, we're all in the same team.
We're all equal.
Um, even though, obviously, you know, there's a coach behind, Does a great job letting you know who's going to get what for a particular season, Whether you know, who's gonna get shots, who don't get looks, time, whatever.
He handles all that.
He does a great job.
He doesn't early in the season laying, you know who's going to get what? Well, I was just trying toe make us a very, very close unit because I knew down the stretch that was gonna be needed for us, you know, in those tough games and we're going to get teams that have more talent than us.
We're gonna We're going to win because we way want anymore.
And we and we love each other more than they love themselves.
And, you know, So that's what really What was it about what that was about? It kind of goes back my high school days.
That's kind of how we did it in high school.
We had our dinners before every game, and we haven't got one of our teammates house.
No, they just make sure a close unit man.
Just making sure, like real family.
And you mentioned in those those tough games close games.
You guys had a close one with Georgia in the Sweet 16.
That's that's a game that everybody seems to remember about other than you know, the run of the time.
But that game, specifically down stretch, could have very easily gone the other way.
But supola hits, you know, a shot right at the buzzer descended into overtime.
So what do you remember about that play? Because you were closely guarded and then it looks like they forgot supola on the backside.
No, actually, I took the ball out, so I mean about.
Okay, so, uh, that was the first part of it was called Boeheim convincing me inbound the ball because I want to get the shot.
But from where the ball was being inbounded, he obviously once again, he made the right call.
And I was able Thio, uh, you know, on my my my inner old school football days and thought perfectly past, I just got over Shannon Anderson's outstretched hand right into the right to Jason Supola shooting pocket right into a great shot.
I mean, what a shot.
I could see him hitting that shine sign into the corner and our our bench going nuts as he's sliding and the shot goes in.
What? What was your reaction for that? You know what? What did you see from the side? I remember just going up to him, saying Thank you. I love you, man.
You gave us a shot and I were about the win.
And now and now I'm gonna win the game for us.
I remember saying that because you know, I had the four fouls and whatever whatever, but for for him to hit the tough, tough shot on the baseline gave his life.
And now we're about to win the game.
Yeah, so you get the O. T.
You know, the two previous seasons, you lose both of those games N O.
A tournament and then this one, you get there and you went down the stretch.
But when When you're coming down to it, you guys have a lead and then they come down and they hit a three pointer in the corner.
And if you remember, it was on your side of the zone.
So what happened there down the stretch before you hit the shot? Well, they drove in and they hit.
They hit, Ah, Percy, I think in the corner and the left handed guy gets shot in the corner and I didn't close out hard enough and I didn't want to run into him.
So I gave a half as effort honestly, and hoping he was gonna hit this missed the shot.
He wasn't a great shooter and he hit the shot.
So now I gotta redeem myself for that lack of effort on defense.
And Todd Bergen was fumbling around looking for the ball and I remember telling him to Hurry up, Get the ball.
And, uh, you know, obviously the rest is history, man.
Going down, cross over at half court.
One more dribble, pull up.
What? What are you thinking on that play? Are you thinking, you know, try to get all the way to the rim, take what the defense gives you, Um, you know, almost e like No, I looked up at the clock and I wanted to get a shot just in case we missed that.
We could get the rebound.
Aziz, Honestly, what? I was thinking, like, just in case I did miss, we had a chance for a rebound when I when I took the shot.
That's when I That's why I took him when I did.
Okay, so you take the shot.
Obviously it goes in.
No, no offensive rebound needed.
There's still a little bit of time left on the clock.
So are you thinking Oh, no.
Let's get this stop Or are you thinking you know, we got it? It's over.
And I say, I'm thinking we we won on Lee.
Jason Supola was still playing defense and tipped the ball from behind the thought the timing on that guy because he might have hit another shot.
The rest of us was like, Oh, it's over.
But Jason Supola had the wherewithal.
They come up behind the guy and tipped the ball, threw off his timing and then the shot he shot at the buzzer, then go in but messed up his timing on the shot.
So it was a very heads up, played by Jason Polo.
Yeah, you know, it looks like it would have been too late anyways, even if he'd get it off.
You know, even if you did a shot off a little bit past the time, But, uh, you know, So you win that game, you go on, you beat Kansas and the elite eight to go to the Final Four.
Really good Kansas team to man.
I mean, Paul Pierce.
That Paul Pierce Jacque Vaughn friends Scott Parlor.
I mean, Jared Haas, who didn't really play in the NBA, but he was a really good college.
But they're there.
They had a really good team.
Really good team.
Yeah, this is Kansas.
They're gonna be good every year.
But you beat that team Very talented team, as you mentioned.
And There's the famous, you know the queues is in the house.
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
What was that? A spontaneous thing? Have you guys done that fire in the season or No.
I started doing that after the Arizona game back in November when we beat them on the road and no one gave us a shot.
They were ranked high and they had a 54 55 game, non conference home winning streak.
Then we shut all that down, and I was being interviewed after the game by our guy Brubaker.
And I told them, you know, because when the accused in the house of my God Yeah, I just caught on and we just started saying it.
But that's the first time I said it was after we beat Arizona out in Arizona.
And then you probably that all the way to the title game, beat Mississippi State on the semi's and then go to the title game.
You know, you talked about it a little bit.
You guys were starting to come back, have them on their heels.
Uh, you know, just didn't get it done down the stretch.
But when When you look back on that now does.
Does it still sting, or do you look back and say, Wow, we really made the title game.
No, I hurts, man.
Because like I said, that was that We should have one if I didn't follow way, We're definitely one I had, you know? Oh man, like yes, it definitely still things.
It was the only game I haven't watched ever since I played in it.
It's too painful to watch, like, you know, like I said, Kentucky Death and a better team.
Then, you know, 89 MBA guys.
So they definitely had the better team.
You know, that night we were playing a better game up until I found out.
You know, they made their running.
You know Tony Delk, 18 points in the first half.
Six threes played great and he hit the but the only that one shot in the 1st 2nd half.
Four point play with Time Burger and file them after that, we call a time out.
I remember Coach Boeheim is sitting there.
We were just not saying much, and I just said they made their run.
Now that's gonna make our one.
It's time for us to make it run.
We made our run, and like I said, man, we just you know, little Miss communicates my miseries myself.
Um, and, you know, and it lets my fifth file Sure.
You know, still so great not run nonetheless.
But you know when when you look back on that 90 16 lot of stories get told.
But what's what's maybe something that not everybody knows about that 1990 16? Or what's something that you could share about that team that not a lot of people know? Well, coming back from the from the Final Four, I made everyone ground party.
Uh, even Lazara Simmons, who in his five years at Syracuse, I don't think he ever went to Marshall Street one.
So I told that one.
If I gotta drag you, you're gonna come out and enjoy this night.
This is a special moment.
We had thousands.
I mean, we landed.
We had thousands at the airport, were driving.
We had thousands along the highway.
We get off our butts, we had thousands there waiting for us.
You gotta go enjoy that.
And everyone's happy that they did, but everyone on the team went out.
Uh, man, we had Harry's open.
Don't tell the Syracuse police, but yeah, we were open late five o'clock.
I mean, you have to enjoy that moment.
Man is, like, once in a lifetime moment with with with our whole team down there award in that the whole night.
Still got that net.
But, man, what? What an incredible, incredible night, You know, coming back And there's thousands.
And I mean, literally, you couldn't even walk through the you had to, like, get past like it was like you had a rock and roll concert.
You know what I mean? But it was It was It was really, really you know, one of those moments that you never forgetting when I bring it up.
All the teammates, we all remember that moment of going down the Marshall Street and be like, like, literally like, this is unbelievable.
Yeah, And awesome.
And on a similar note, it seems like every former player has has a Jim Boeheim story or a funny anecdote about Boeheim or something about him.
So what's what's a funny Boeheim story, or maybe something that you could share about him, that there's not a lot of people know.
Well, I think the funny thing about being a Hamas he was funny without trying to be funny.
He'd be dead serious about things dead Pan, and he just it would be hilarious, you know? But my funniest, you know, the one of the funniest stories I to me is when we were down at West Virginia and let's, uh, marries Giannoulias and J.
We're both playing bad in the first half and, uh, you know, halftime comes and cultures.
He races to the locker room and and we're all walking in and he's standing by the bathroom stall.
He's he's holding the door open.
So you know, you walking by and here comes to Poland, Mary, and you need calls them both over there.
He's like, Get over here both, he said, jumping the toilet because you're playing like ****.
Oh, definitely something he would say.
Oh, man, I was crying.
Oh, that's hilarious, man.
That makes me laugh every time I think about a man because it was so funny.
That's great, E.
They had, like, this flummoxed look on their face.
Like what do you What you calling over here? I mean, you're going to bathroom? What? What's going on? Oh, yeah.
He does have that dead fan nature, and I'm taking it serious.
And then he's he's or something.
He tells the joke. Great.
But, uh, you know, we'll get you out of here on this, You know, obviously you go out, Teoh have a nice think seven year NBA career.
Drafted 18 overall in the 1996 MBA draft.
But you know what? What was it like coming in with 96 draft? Because everybody talks about the 03 draft, and, you know, it was one of the greatest of all time, but that 1996 draft was great.
You have guys like Kobe? No, no, no, no.
Oh, let me correct you.
The 96 draft is the greatest draft of all time, and it's not even close.
There you have it like so what chance are you comparing? Well, three, You had LeBron Carmelo di way Bosch those years, but the 96 got well, LeBron's got four ways.
Gun three, Wade's got three.
Bob's got three.
We're still waiting for Melo.
No, Nobody got to.
You got to with them? Yeah, D Wade.
So that's so That's four with LeBron three.
With the way that seven.
Another two with Bosch, that's not but Kobe and and Derek Fisher alone for us.
And that's 10 right there.
So we shut the argument down and and and we got We got Hall of Famers.
We got rings, we got MVPs.
Um, you know, we got our Kobe Jordan is obviously the greatest, but Kobe's right there.
You know what I mean? So the 84 draft is great.
The 2003 draft is great, but ours greater.
The 96 drafted just I mean, it's not even close, man.
It's not even close.
When you got Steve Nash, M v P when 15th in our draft, Jermaine O'Neal 17th and our drive.
I'm just talking about when 26 in our drive.
You know what I mean.
Our draft was stack that top the bottom stack, man.
So there's no comparison.
You could shut that argument down every any day of the week and I get it.
LeBron is great.
The weight is great by great mellows.
But we have so much greatness and improve guys would, you know, just is hard to compare a man in the 84.
They got Jordan's got six, and, um, large mines got the two.
So that's a And I'm sure who else in 84 got greens? Barkley didn't get it stocked and get it, you know, they're struggling.
We got the rings, we got the MVPs, we got the we got the one player who can really, really you know, right there compared with comparable with Jordan, you know, in terms of rings and and pedigree.
The late, great Kobe.
So I mean, the 96 draft man there, Sam's coming out there talking about it.
The new new sand.
They interviewed us, I think, this past the past summer, and, uh, they just released.
It was gonna is gonna come out soon.
The New slam about the 96 draft.
The greatest draft ever.
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