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00:00:44
Nick family.
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What's popping? We're back in the building.
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I apologize.
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Any technical issues, But we are back, all right? And we're gonna We're gonna We're just gonna take it from the top.
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So welcome to the coach's corner.
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Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, I'm saying your man sin and he is here in the building with me and we're gonna break down.
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Today we're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau, right? We're gonna take a break from our usual film sessions.
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We're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau and how Tom Thibodeau might approach certain players on this team.
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And this is an important, important topic, right? Some people may look and say I It is kind of corny. It's not corny.
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This is It's an important topic because every player has a different personality.
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They bring different characteristics to the team.
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And so the way that you approach those players can go a lot into developing chemistry into getting the best out of that player.
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And then, of course, you can't show favoritism.
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Sometimes the way that you approach a player appears to other players that you're showing favoritism.
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It's not showing favoritism.
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It's just I've got a I could be tough with this guy.
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I might need to be delicate with this guy.
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You know, I might need to be even killed with this guy.
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I find your best coaches know how to reach a player, know how to interact with the players personality.
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And that's not easy.
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Especially if you've got someone who is just, you know, I know one way this is the way that I do it.
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That could be difficult.
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You know what I'm saying? I said, we're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau.
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We're gonna talk about his personality, players, personalities and how Tom Thibodeau and the coaching staff not just Tom, but the coaching staff might address that player and get the best out of that player by developing a relationship.
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Alright, so Andy E.
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I guess we just start with Let's talk about Tom Thibodeau in his personality, right? And you know what? What? What does he bring to the table with his personality? Uh, no.
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Uh, no.
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First of all, he's a strong headed, strong Maduro.
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I think he's more, you know, off.
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Maybe not dictate a right, but like a autocratic coach, he's gonna demand this and this style of play from this these guys on.
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And I think like we said in the first cut that, um probably he's gonna have sit downs with these does as a team, as personal guys and you know, he's gonna have team goals and he's gonna have personal calls for for all the players.
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And that's what I expect from every coach with thieves.
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I think you know it's gonna be about the communication with the players on, you know, I feel he will probably go his old style old way, meaning that he's gonna be straightforward with them.
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No, no turning corners, stuff like that, hiding, you know, going behind doors and then talking about players, you know, and that on.
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I think at the beginning, if a team has a new coach, I think all the players will respond.
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But during the season, when you know the results are not gonna be there or no something, never negative is gonna happen.
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And I don't know some rifts in the locker room, stuff like that, Uh, that communication channel might be no.
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A little bit blurry might fail on as I see it.
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That's where you know the assistant coaches coming or a vet like Taj Gibson he's going to communicate through.
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You know, he's gonna be that that middle point, right? Or the assistance cultures, they're gonna be the middle point on unless things really sees that.
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You know, a guy needs, you know, some some positive I don't know impulse from him.
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Of course he's going to do it right, But I don't think he's gonna be one of the coaches that he's gonna have expectations from, you know, and individual way to talk with every other player, right? I think he's one of the old style coaches that he saw.
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He he had the winds and under his belt.
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He has a championship from from Boston as an assistant, and I think he's gonna be the I'm the I'm the boss here.
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I demand this and this, and I think, like I said at the beginning is gonna be enough to have all the players you know under him.
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But as we go forward, some, some might, you know, crumble under that.
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And then well, we're going to see the adjustments happened.
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Do you think there's gonna be any kind off? He said In earlier interviews, ESPN this and that that, you know, he's learned a lot from coaching over the years and that he's, uh, you know, maybe learn how to take a smoother approach with players.
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Is that even in his personality to do so? I mean, you could see that you could see his face on the screen right now.
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It's probably screaming at the referee, but still is it even in his personality to do so? And maybe he starts out that way and then, you know, kind of I don't want to say switches up, but maybe he starts out like, You know what? I am going to approach my players like this.
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That and the other thing.
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But then when you start getting into the thick of it, your true nature usually comes out.
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You know, the true nature shines through.
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Yeah, and you know what I think? I think when the brass hired him, right, I think they had expectations for him.
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They of course they have, you know, multiple conversations, and they try to figure it out if he's able to adjust, you know, toe this new.
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I don't know.
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Maybe not.
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Not not style of playing, but toe dip mentally off these young kids, right? Because he's growing older.
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But, you know, the players change, right? It's not these guys that came into the N b a 20 years ago.
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There a little bit softer, softer, mentally software.
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You know, maybe physically, they don't react like those guys in the league back in the day.
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So I'm guessing he has to adjust.
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The question is, is he gonna adjust as soon as you know is gonna be recommended? Maybe not recommended.
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Assume it's gonna be, um, you know, a soon as he realizes that it's needed right to adjust because, you know, we didn't see him, you know, making adjustments. That good.
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Because, you know, he wasn't our coach.
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And I don't think we followed tips that good when he was in Minnesota, where he was in the boat.
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Right? Right, right.
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Well, you know, he's got a coaching staff there, you know, hopefully he uses his coaching staff accordingly.
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You know, that.
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Be the smart thing to do, and I think he will.
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I think that he will, because he's got some good guys, you know, you got Kenny pain there so that he can help.
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You know, he's been to college assistant, right? So he's used Thio.
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You know, being that guy like die hard Knicks fan is saying in the chat, You know, you got your assistant coaches to be that olive branch.
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He's used to being that Olive Branch.
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Mike Woodson, I think, is he does a really good job, which was evident to me when he coached the Knicks.
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You know, when he was coaching, mellow with them guys, you know that he's able to manage personalities, and I think that's how you got the best out of that team.
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You know, if he was able to manage personalities Onda, Toby, truce, Um, that that's the biggest one of the biggest roles for for those assistant coaches is Toby, that middle guy between the head coach and, you know, and the player because they're not on Lee.
00:09:13
They'll to develop a shot or to teach defense or, I don't know, develop individual skills, right? They're a part of the coaching team, coaching staff and the whole team and the whole organization, so you know everybody's gonna have that same goal.
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And let's hope that, you know nobody's gonna have some, you know, put personal goals ahead of the team goals.
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That's when it's all gonna be working out.
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Yeah, so let's do this.
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Let's start with R. J.
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Barrett, right? Right now he is the you know, he's the shining star for the New York Knicks right now.
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Okay, R.
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J. Barrett.
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What is the best way for Tom Thibodeau to reach RJ? Well, you know, as as I see it, he's he's a young guy.
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And from what we saw in his first season and his mentality and his approach to the game, I'm guessing you just go straight ahead of him, right? You don't go around.
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You don't know.
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You just call him up.
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You know, a zoo said before before a meeting before a game after a game and just, you know, go blood on it like RJ distant.
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This right? This is this wrong? You gotta just the wrong things to make it happen better, right? And I don't think, you know, we need to even say something else here with r J.
00:10:38
I think he his mental, you know, preparation for the game, for a basketball player, for a leader on this team in the future, I think it's perfect.
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Then I think they're gonna mesh.
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So yeah, I agree.
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As I said before, I do I think they are going to mess.
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I think they have similar outlooks on the game of basketball in the way that you should approach the game of basketball.
00:11:02
I think RJ has a strong mentality.
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I think he's a mentally tough person.
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I think being mentally tough is important in any sport that you play.
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And I think RJ is a mentally tough player.
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Hopefully, that's going to resonate with the rest of the team.
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And I'm not saying we have guys that are soft, but I just hope that it resonates with everybody on the team right here.
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His mental toughness.
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And when you got a coach like Tom Thibodeau, you've got to be mentally tough to Yeah, you gotta be mentally tough to deal with Tom Thibodeau.
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Yeah, and to play in this markets in because we got that New York is not your regular, you know, market over N B 18 right? This is one of the hardest places to play.
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But if if you know the reward is gonna be huge, if if if we're gonna be winning song.
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Yeah, so? So I agree.
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I think that you can.
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I think Tom Thibodeau can just come thio RJ and say, Hey, you're not doing this.
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That and the third.
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This is what I expect from you.
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You know, I don't you know, and R J is the type of player that's gonna go out and say, Okay, this is what Coach needs me to do.
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This is what I'm going to do.
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You know, I hope that Tom Thibodeau is the type of coach that really does build a relationship with the players.
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And I'm not talking about a David Fizdale type of relationship, right? I'm talking about the type of like like the I don't always want to say, father, son, but the type of relationship where players just straight up respect them, they're afraid they have a healthy fear of him.
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Yeah, I don't get offended or, you know, play out.
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You know, like little kids.
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No, no process and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, I think RJ, I think RJ will have that kind off respect for Tom Thibodeau.
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You know, he comes from a place where coaching is, you know.
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Ah ah place from good coaching, right? A place where, you know, coming from Duke where, you know, you have strong systems in place and all those type of things.
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So I think he will respond well to it is what he's used to, you know, And I think he was.
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So I think he'll respond.
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Well, I think he'll respond well to Tom Thibodeau.
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Uh, and probably any approach that Tom Thibodeau brings the RJ because I think RJ is just a tough guy and the tough minded guy, and they think I like so, you know, I'm not really worried about RJ now, somebody somebody said, Ralph, I think it was robbed Diaz before the stream went down the first time, Uh, said that he's afraid that RJ, you know, it has an au type of mentality, you know? And when some players have, um, and a u mentality, they're kind of like I'm the guy.
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Your team is nothing without me.
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So what? I you know what I want? I'm going to get I don't think he has that kind of that kind of mentality.
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If that's what Ralph is was saying, I don't think he has that kind of mentality.
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You know, I think RJ is coachable and wants to be coached.
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Right? The next guy, I have a lot more concerned about the next guy than I do about R. J.
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Barrett.
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All right, We're talking about Julius Randle, right? Yeah.
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This to me between Tom Thibodeau and Julius Randle.
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Yeah, it can either be that Julius Randle is gonna have one of the best years of his career.
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Or it could be explosive.
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I don't even see a middle ground.
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I see it being wanted it to, you know, I'm not exactly sure which way it's gonna go.
00:15:03
Right.
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Um, if you look at some of the things that Julius Randle had in this contract, he had incentives to make the All Star team right.
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You get a bonus if you make the All Star team incentives if you're all defensive player.
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Okay.
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So it tells you a little bit about the expectations that his team when I say his team, you know, his agents, so on and so forth have for him the three expectations that he might have for himself and the expectations that last year's team had for him to build those things into his contract, right? So it might tell you a little bit about his mentality of who he might think he is as a player, right? He may think that he is on the cusp off going toe another level and should be approached as such.
00:16:04
You know what I mean? Um, approaching Julius Randle, you may approach Julius Randle a little bit differently than you approach RJ, right? He's been in the league a little bit longer, so that's one aspect of it.
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Uh, and two, I think he's the kind of guy that you have Thio.
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You know, you brush the ego a little bit.
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Rusty ego, you know, you sit him down and said, Come on, let's let's have a sit down Let's have a conversation And he said, Listen, I like that you're doing this.
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I like that.
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You're doing that.
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I like that you're doing this. I like that.
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You're doing that.
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Here's some things where I think you really need to work.
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Let's set up this plan on how we're gonna get these these things done, and if they don't get done, this is what's going to happen, right, and you come to it you know, and you talk and you you keep your standards as a coach and you keep your standards of the team.
00:17:04
But you sit down with that player and you explain, say, Listen, here's the standards we set forth just like anybody else.
00:17:13
If you don't reach these, then here's what's got to happen.
00:17:18
You know what I'm saying? And I think he's the type of player where you've got approach that way, where r.
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J you could just be like, Listen, you didn't do this.
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You need to get this done now, when Julius, you might have to approach it a little bit differently.
00:17:30
Yeah, and, you know, I agree with everything you said.
00:17:33
I just think that this kind of personal goals on made on paper before tips came, you know, they're not gonna be erased, right? Because it is not going to come and say like, Okay, Julius and in the personal, you know, before the season meeting, Julius, listen, I don't care what you got in the contract.
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I don't care about none of those individual things.
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We're a team and I want only theme, you know, goals right.
00:18:00
But that's the first place that he might get offended.
00:18:03
Of course, I don't know if he was gonna do that, right, But I don't expect him to do that.
00:18:09
But like you said, he's gotta, you know, work with Julius more like when an egg.
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Then go straight up on her because he can get, you know, offended.
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Of course, at the beginning, it might work like I said before for the whole team and that that kind of approach my work Because I think they're also the players.
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They understand.
00:18:29
What? What kind of coach Thibs is right.
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So they're preparing mentally before even the first meeting after those short individual workouts.
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They they know him, right? So and they have expectations of them.
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So I'm guessing nobody's gonna, you know, cry or you know, have be act soft and and think, OK, I'm not gonna make the team because this is a coach and and go mentally, you know, soft, right.
00:18:54
But I'm guessing you gotta be more careful with Julius than with Orgy.
00:19:01
And as you said, it's gonna be it's gonna be, You know, it's gonna be black or white.
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It's gonna work or it's not gonna work totally.
00:19:08
There's no middle ground here.
00:19:10
And the only thing that that can happen perfectly is the, you know, adjustment off treating Julius like through the assistant coaches.
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We have Kenny pain, which, you know, work with him and the call in college.
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Right? So I'm guessing that that might be one of the biggest reasons that Kenny got the job.
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Even that, you know, he knows Julius.
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He knows how to pep talk him, you know, before games and stuff like that.
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And things might be okay.
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You don't wanna listen to me or, you know, I don't get through you through to you any go. Just do it.
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They're not gonna be like, you know, saying this to the media, right? It's gonna be in the coaches meeting and stuff like that, but that they might try to trick Julie's like that.
00:19:52
Okay, I'm going to say the team part, and then, you know, Kenny is going to be at work outside shooter out.
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You know, he's gonna be Julius isn't.
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Just do this, and this is gonna work out.
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He's gonna work out.
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And, you know, Julie's doesn't have to know that that it's really steps talking through Kenny, right? they're just gonna make him think that that it's, you know, that there's more Kenny, you know, working out with him, or would you or whoever on not only if he's gonna be having, you know, our top relationship with.
00:20:22
And, you know, I think that I mean, I'm hoping, though, that Randall and tips can develop a close relationship, because, of course, we gotta hope that, you know, from from the beginning, right? You know, I think that those two players right there, RJ and Julius Randle if I'm Tom Thibodeau, even though you may have to approach those two guys differently assuming that they're both on the team when they start, I'm bringing these two guys together.
00:20:56
I'm saying, Listen, we need to be on the same page, right? We need to be on the same page.
00:21:07
I need you guys to help spread my voice throughout the team, you know, and some people may not want to give, You know, Julius Randle, this kind of respect right now I get it.
00:21:18
I know a lot of people just want him gone, but assuming that he's on the team, he's gonna be one of the players that you're gonna have to do that to say, Listen, this is what we have right now, Assuming that you don't get somebody else, that's, you know, if you don't assume you don't get a Chris Paul or another type of player like that.
00:21:35
If R.
00:21:36
J and Julius Randle are your two primary players coming into this season, then those are the guys.
00:21:43
You're gonna have to sit down and say We need to have this conversation because us three need to be on the same page.
00:21:48
You might even pull in Taj Gibson into that conversation, right? As a coach, it is important that your top players you have your top players preaching what you preach, right? Yeah.
00:22:02
And with Julius again, uh, with Julius again, you know, his age difference with RJ means something to because RJ still, you know, he's 1920 years old.
00:22:15
He's still in that mode where, you know, like you listen to your parents and you know, you're getting to the point where you're like, I kind of wanna, and I'm trying to do my own thing, you know, saying why my father keep talking about this and that when you're 26 years old you like, man? I don't give a **** what my father just said.
00:22:33
This is what I'm doing.
00:22:34
You know what I'm saying? So you're like Julius might be kind of at that age to where he's like, you know, he's growing into being a man, and so, you know, you got another guy that's coming in by blah, blah, blah, blah like, Yo, hold up.
00:22:46
You know, I'm a man, too, you know what I mean.
00:22:49
So, you know, that kind of thing kind of comes in where, you know, age means something.
00:22:53
So, you know, you approached Julius a little bit differently, but you still bring into together, I think and say this is this'd is you know, I need you guys.
00:23:04
I need you guys assistance.
00:23:05
I need you guys help for both of those players.
00:23:08
I think that's the way right there off the back to get them to be like, Okay, you know what? I like this, you know, I'm saying I like the position that he put me and how I feel about it.
00:23:17
Yeah, that's that's why I say I think that that from the beginning, tips can show maybe he can bend a little bit right for, like the rules he has or think.
00:23:28
But I don't think he can go like, OK, Julius, what do you think and and asked like Julie is going to say, I know I don't like morning shootarounds or whatever, right? So I think you know, he has to be strict because, you know, Julie is also like you said about the age.
00:23:43
He's not over 30 right? So he can't say, like, just trade me.
00:23:47
I don't care right? He still wants to play here.
00:23:49
He wants developers, the n b a player grow us an NBA player.
00:23:53
So I think he should, at least from my point of view, he should respect and appreciate that Thieves is a coach and and it's gonna coach with a strong hand.
00:24:03
E think that's that's That's a good thing for him at this point of his career.
00:24:07
If he's gonna be like 34 35 you know, then you don't care right, because you know it's the last legs of U.
00:24:14
N.
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And you know, in the n B A and and less contract.
00:24:17
Probably.
00:24:18
But at this point, I think he should really appreciate and buy in fully toe.
00:24:23
Whatever says because, you know, we we can't have any and, you know, rifts in the locker room.
00:24:29
Because if steps is gonna lose the locker room and some guys like if imagine we had the same squad last year, right? They will have this year.
00:24:38
He would have Elford, whatever a rift between tips and Randall will probably split the locker room.
00:24:45
You know, Alfred would say, You know, I alone Julia's, like, eight years or 10 years now, right? Why you gonna listen to dips? They're not gonna fire both of us, so, you know.
00:24:54
And when you have that split and you know not the same goals, it's really bad for team.
00:25:00
Yeah, these are developing team, right? So And I see someone saying, Ralph, I think it was robbed.
00:25:06
Es hey said approach, Randall much, much tougher.
00:25:12
And then die hard.
00:25:13
Knicks said Julius is a father.
00:25:14
I think he's gonna need that respect.
00:25:16
Hey, wants to learn how toe win.
00:25:18
What can he do? Finally, you know, what can he do to finally play winning basketball? I agree with both guys.
00:25:24
I think that you could be tough, but also be respectful to a player, you know? I mean, and I think if Tom Thibodeau was that way with Julius Randle, I think Julius Randle will respond.
00:25:34
Well, you know, if he's that way, if he shows him that respect as a man, you know, because yes, he is a father.
00:25:40
He has his own Children, right? You know, his own child, and he's a husband.
00:25:46
You show him that respect.
00:25:48
But you're also like, but I'm not going to bend the rules and the standards of this team.
00:25:54
I'm going to give you the respect, but we're not gonna bend.
00:25:57
I think it could work, you know? Didn't work the next guy on the list.
00:26:04
And you know Kevin Knox.
00:26:09
You know, he's up until we get this new draft pick he's gonna be He's the baby of the team.
00:26:16
I guess that's what you want to say.
00:26:19
If I am Tom Thibodeau, I am going to be hard on Kevin Knox, right? I know some people think that it's going to shake his confidence.
00:26:37
I do not think so.
00:26:39
I think that, you know, he may have his times where he's like, I think Kevin Knox wants to be coached.
00:26:46
I really do.
00:26:47
And I think he needs somebody that just pushes him.
00:26:51
I don't think he needs He doesn't need a friend like, you know, old boy over there.
00:26:56
David Fizdale was trying to be his buddy.
00:26:58
He doesn't need a friend.
00:26:59
He doesn't need someone to go out and get ice cream with.
00:27:02
You know, there's just stay up and play video games with He's got teammates for that.
00:27:06
He needs a coach that's gonna kick his ass.
00:27:10
That's what I think about Kevin Knox.
00:27:12
And I think that's what how Tom Thibodeau needs to approach Kevin Knox, you know? You know what? I agree.
00:27:18
I think tips should go hard on every of our players.
00:27:23
But, you know, on Kevin, I think we've got to see how he's going to respond, because I think he might be one of the first guy guys on this roster that we have now that might crumble on their tips and that Z you know, when when the assistance came, come in and, you know, really positive.
00:27:44
Leaving positively reinforced that confidence that you know, those those positive mental, you know, things on him just to make him think that he is really doing this to make you a better player, right? And from tip standpoint, from from Kevin standpoint, as long as he's going to have chances, even if he fails the theme and the coach, he's going to see the light in the tunnel.
00:28:10
And I believe he's gonna work for that.
00:28:12
Unless you know steps is gonna sit in for, like, 30 40 games.
00:28:16
No, that that might break, You know, a guy like Kevin.
00:28:18
But, you know, I still have hope in him as far as I, you know, disliked and even said bad words about him at the end of season.
00:28:27
You know, I really I don't know why I soften up on even on D S.
00:28:33
J on Randall and on Kevin, You know, coming into this season, maybe it's it's that, you know, the lack of next basketball, that that that's making me hungry.
00:28:41
So I just want to see anything on the on the course.
00:28:44
So yeah, and, you know, I dio I hear you when you say that, you know, he's one of those guys that could maybe, you know, the pressure could get to him now.
00:28:56
Um, and if That's the case.
00:28:59
Then he doesn't belong in the N.
00:29:00
B.
00:29:01
A.
00:29:02
That's my opinion on him, right? If that's the case, if you can't handle what Tom Thibodeau is gonna throw at him, then he doesn't belong in the MBA.
00:29:08
I think Tom Thibodeau should just go ahead and throw it at him.
00:29:12
Uh, you know, push.
00:29:14
Try to push him to the limit.
00:29:15
I just I feel like he needs that push.
00:29:19
You know, needs that push pushing to the limit, make him cry if you got to, you know, breaking down to the bone.
00:29:28
Yeah.
00:29:29
And I think this sim is maybe not Kevin's problem, right? But he's still really hey, didn't grow mentally, you know, Like he didn't age mentally yet.
00:29:40
He's still a kid.
00:29:42
Yeah, he's 2021 wherever, right? He's still, you know, he acts like he's, you know, a little bit of younger.
00:29:49
So that's why I only I think that that might break him.
00:29:52
That's the only because in, like, 234 years, I think that he's gonna be really hard, and he's going to, you know, get her often up mentally, physically, whatever.
00:30:02
And he's gonna be a good player.
00:30:04
Just, you know, this is this is by this or the next season might be the season that's gonna break him.
00:30:09
And, like you said, he won't be long in MBA.
00:30:12
So let's hope he's gonna pan out for for the Knicks.
00:30:14
Yeah, because I I just feel like, you know, if if a coach could break you, then you know, like break you down to where you're just going.
00:30:24
And I'm not saying that he has Thio like just scream at Scream at him and holler Adam, that's not to me.
00:30:31
That's not coaching.
00:30:32
That's not coaching, right? What I'm saying is with Kevin Knox, when I say be tough on them, be super tough on them is you don't give them any.
00:30:45
There's no leeway, right? It's like everything.
00:30:49
Everything about how you approach him is very regimented, right? You're developing a relationship with him.
00:30:55
You develop a relationship with him.
00:30:57
You always got to do that right.
00:30:58
That's the E.
00:31:00
I mean, that's such a huge part off coaching, even though the payers getting players getting paid is a huge part of coaching, right? So you develop the relationship with him, but he comes late to practice.
00:31:13
First of all, it should be like this with every player.
00:31:15
But after you've coached for a while and you've been there for a while, someone comes late.
00:31:19
You know, if you have a player has a child and that child was sick, you know, you might say Okay, you know what? This is what you know.
00:31:26
We're gonna do this.
00:31:27
We're gonna do that right? Someone like Kevin Knox. She doesn't have a child.
00:31:31
Not that we know off.
00:31:34
Right.
00:31:35
He comes like the practice, right? Hey, comes late to practice.
00:31:40
Bam.
00:31:41
You don't You don't You don't take no excuses like I don't wanna hear anything.
00:31:45
Whatever it is, whatever the consequences are you making, do those consequences.
00:31:49
And you catch him on every little thing and you sit down and you have talks with him, right? But you're tough on them.
00:31:56
And you know when you're doing drills and practice, he's the first dude you call out.
00:32:01
You let him know I'm watching you.
00:32:03
I am on you.
00:32:05
And you tell them when I stopped doing this.
00:32:07
Be concerned because that means I no longer feel that you got it right.
00:32:12
And you just on them and, you know, I've had to be like that with a few players.
00:32:18
I had this one kid, man, he came to me in the 10th grade and he walked.
00:32:24
He walked about five miles to get to my practice because, you know, whatever it was happening, he walked five miles to get to practice, got the practice, and he was late.
00:32:34
He didn't make it.
00:32:35
It was tryouts.
00:32:36
Actually, he didn't make it.
00:32:37
But because he walked so far, I was like, You know what? I like this.
00:32:40
I like the fact that he had that kind of dedication.
00:32:44
I brought him onto the team, you know, He was you know, I've seen him.
00:32:47
Play was decent.
00:32:48
Ballplayer brought him onto the team, right? But he was a kind of like he would be all over the place.
00:32:55
And, you know, he would, uh I mean, he's the kind of kid who he would just speak without even thinking about what he's saying.
00:33:03
Hey, didn't know where to be on the court.
00:33:06
You know, just all these little things.
00:33:08
Yeah, talent.
00:33:10
But all these little things he didn't know how to do.
00:33:13
And he didn't have to use his talent.
00:33:15
So he was on the bench.
00:33:16
I benched him and I would be on him for everything.
00:33:20
You know, saying he was late to practice even if he walked the practice.
00:33:23
He was late. It didn't matter.
00:33:24
He ran.
00:33:25
He did whatever push the number of push ups we had to do, whatever the consequences were, he had to do him.
00:33:31
I didn't care that he had to walk the practice right because he needed the discipline in order.
00:33:36
Thio in order, Thio in order to make it right, he didn't, uh you know, he sat down the end of the bench.
00:33:45
He would always complain, Coach, I could beat this person one on one.
00:33:48
I could be that person like I don't care.
00:33:50
Do you know where to be on the floor? Do you know what to do when you're out there? Give him his chance to get out there on the floor and being the wrong spot.
00:33:58
I'd pull him out, sit down and tell him about it.
00:34:00
Listen, I told you to be here, here or here.
00:34:06
And this is where you were.
00:34:07
What were you doing? Well coached. Done it up.
00:34:10
Sit here.
00:34:11
Watch the game, you know? I mean, eventually, he finally got it what I'm saying.
00:34:16
And by the time he was a senior in high school, you know, he was one of the leaders of the team.
00:34:22
You know what I mean? And he'll tell you to this day, like, you know, he had to go through it.
00:34:26
We had tough conversations.
00:34:28
He'd be breaking down into tears sometimes because he thought he should be playing this and that and the other thing, he end up going to college and playing in college for, you know, like a division three school or something like that.
00:34:38
But, um, it was cool because he never played.
00:34:41
He only played one year of high school basketball.
00:34:44
You only play the scene that that's what I said, saying that that you know that it's more than basketball, you know, it's about discipline.
00:34:51
Is is about life, rules and and stuff like that.
00:34:54
And if I can plug a short story here, I don't know if you remember Anthony Randolph, the guy that we got traded, you know that that that big four, right? Right.
00:35:03
I remember I was watching the game and he, like, stole the ball on.
00:35:08
He likes completely.
00:35:09
No cut the lanes, stole the ball and dunked like one of the one dunk right.
00:35:14
And he started flexing and talking to the bench of the opposite team.
00:35:17
It was here in Europe after his NBA career, right? You know, he started talking to the opposite bench team and stuff like that.
00:35:24
The guys inbounded fast and his guys scored a three.
00:35:28
Right coach took time out.
00:35:30
He looked at, Randall told him, What are you doing and stuff like that? And Randall responded, Like said, You know, Coach, I was, you know, something like this.
00:35:40
The coach said, like he he acted like, What did you say something back to me? And he pointed the finger to the rocker room.
00:35:48
It was like the second quarter, and he made him stay the whole game in the locker room after that, bro.
00:35:54
And I remember this because I was thinking them.
00:35:57
This coach is gonna get fired.
00:35:58
This guy was playing in the N B.
00:36:00
A.
00:36:01
He's a you know, a huge story in that team, right? No.
00:36:03
Anthony Randall had to buy an ad in the newspaper and say he was sorry to the coach.
00:36:10
It happened like 23 years ago.
00:36:13
I'm gonna pull up the article when I find time.
00:36:15
Wow, It was hilarious for me. It was hilarious.
00:36:18
But, you know, this is how coaches get respect in Europe.
00:36:22
You can't talk back.
00:36:24
I don't remember if you even talk about or even look at the coach.
00:36:27
Like, What are you complaining about? He made them walk to the, you know, to the locker room and made them stay there.
00:36:33
The to the end of the game.
00:36:35
That's that's That's how you do it, man.
00:36:37
E just discipline and discipline doesn't mean screaming.
00:36:42
Discipline is not.
00:36:43
It's not screaming at all, actually, right.
00:36:46
Discipline is not screaming at all, you know.
00:36:49
So I think there's a way you can really be disciplined with Kevin Knox, you know, and and not, you know, break his heart, hurt his feelings and and beat them down.
00:36:58
You could be disciplined.
00:36:59
Why? Building confidence.
00:37:01
And I think that's the way that time tipping on the coaching staff needs to approach.
00:37:04
Kevin Knox having Kenny pain there is gonna be great for Kevin Knox.
00:37:10
Great for Kevin knocks, you know? I mean, I think it's gonna be great form.
00:37:14
So, you know, that's the way that I would approach Kevin Knox, you know? Um, yeah, yeah.
00:37:22
Disciplined man.
00:37:23
Discipline.
00:37:24
I had this one, kid.
00:37:25
I think I told this story before, every every game, his first shot.
00:37:29
It didn't matter if he had a open layup, whatever.
00:37:31
He could come down on the fast break and instead of taking the let me shoot the three right, and if it would **** me off, it ****ed me off.
00:37:41
And I was like, I told him I said, Listen, he might be watching.
00:37:44
All usually watches on YouTube.
00:37:46
I told him I said, Listen, the next time your first shot of the game is a three, you're sitting on the bench.
00:37:53
I'm pulling you out right now.
00:37:54
We were in the game.
00:37:55
It was This was an outside game in D.
00:37:57
C.
00:37:58
On New York Avenue.
00:37:59
We were playing in this outside tournament and he came down.
00:38:03
He had the option.
00:38:05
He could have went to the basket.
00:38:06
He could have pulled the three.
00:38:08
He pulled up to three.
00:38:09
He made it.
00:38:10
I looked at him and I pointed to the bench.
00:38:14
Pull them out or you know, he's seen whoever coming into Southern form.
00:38:18
And I pointed to the bench and sat him down, and that was in the first.
00:38:22
Well, that was actually we played it in half.
00:38:25
Uh, that was, like, the first minute of the first half.
00:38:28
I didn't put him back in until about two minutes to go in the in the in the first half.
00:38:33
Yeah.
00:38:34
Just discipline.
00:38:36
Yeah, Just discipline, man.
00:38:38
You know, um, next guy up the back, Frank. Nil. Aquino.
00:38:47
What's your approach with Frank? You know, you probably know a little bit more about Frank's.
00:38:50
I mean, I think I know his mentality, but you probably know a little bit more about his mentality to me.
00:38:56
Yeah.
00:38:57
You know, I think you know, on this point, it is gonna go.
00:39:01
He can go hardened.
00:39:02
Frank.
00:39:03
You know, I don't think Frank is gonna be rattled because he knows that he can, you know, like, you know, make the expectations that that thing is gonna want him to achieve right, because he's gonna expect defense from him.
00:39:18
I don't know What's the word? I'm gonna be the expectations on the offense event from Frank because, you know, I'm expecting couple of threes here and there, Right? I don't think Tibbs is gonna You know, I think this is This is the player that if he doesn't play well offensively, I mean, maybe not.
00:39:35
Well, upon offensively, if he's not gonna be taking those shots, like we expect him, at least.
00:39:41
Oh, take those shots, right.
00:39:43
I think this is the one thing that tips Mike let slide.
00:39:47
You know that he's not gonna be like Frank.
00:39:50
You should have showed that ball.
00:39:51
Why didn't should be hitting the bench, right? I think he's gonna make that slide on.
00:39:57
But that's only because we don't know the expectations also, right.
00:40:00
But I think he's gonna be really confident in Frank and Frank, and vice versa that Frank is gonna be confident because he knows that thieves is expecting defense first from him.
00:40:13
And, you know, I think I think Frank, you know, played on, you know, learned basketball craft in Europe.
00:40:20
And he had strong headed coaches here.
00:40:23
Rarely.
00:40:24
There's, you know, friendly coach here. Maybe not friendly.
00:40:27
It was a world war like a you know, a really soft coach that doesn't care and stuff like that.
00:40:33
When someone is trying toe teach basketball here in Europe.
00:40:36
Everybody want to have a strong hand.
00:40:39
And And if he made it on the top level in Europe, I think he he already had a great coach.
00:40:46
And and in college, which is the, you know, National French national team coach as well.
00:40:51
And I know he's a hard, you know, most coach as well in the league.
00:40:54
So I believe he he can work.
00:40:56
You know, miracles with Frank a za coach and as the expectations go from thieves.
00:41:03
Yeah, I agree.
00:41:04
I think that Frank, I think Frank can handle it.
00:41:08
I think he's a lot like our Jane is mentality.
00:41:12
You know what I'm saying? Um, he may not have the talent that RJ has, but I think he's a lot like him in his mentality.
00:41:20
Work ethic.
00:41:21
Uh, and you know, he's a coach's player.
00:41:24
I think whichever way to coach approaches him, you know he's gonna respond accordingly.
00:41:29
You know, I mean, eh, So I have no worries about frankly Latina and Tom Thibodeau at all, or anyone on the coaching staff.
00:41:36
Yeah, and I think you know what we can add with Frank.
00:41:38
I think he might be the last guy on this squad toe have toe like to cause any problems in the locker room.
00:41:48
Do it.
00:41:49
If they if they would, I don't know.
00:41:51
Listen, his shoes, she would take it, you know, Don't make correct about it.
00:41:55
Yeah, he's one of those laid back guys that let me ask you, it wouldn't make Is that to his benefit or detriment? Sometimes, no, of course, is gonna be to the detriment sometimes, right? Because they're gonna expect him to be a man and man up sometimes, right? But I think, you know, if he if they if he noticed that they're playing around with him like that, she would stand upright.
00:42:19
But I think, you know, if someone is, you know, making a practical joke on him, it would smile and, you know, take it as a joke and maybe try to prank someone back up, right? But I don't think it would be like or, you know, fight back and have any idea that this might cause, you know, locker room problem.
00:42:37
So now I mean, look, you know, we've seen Frank have some fire.
00:42:43
We I say that you know He's definitely had some fire.
00:42:47
You know, I don't want him to just always be quiet, like Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:42:58
It's it's kind of like, you know, if you have a son and your son is, like, always good and you never got in trouble for skipping school never got in trouble for doing this.
00:43:07
You might think like, yo, what's wrong with this kid? Like most kids get in trouble, something like Why, yeah, you don't want your kid to be too much of a nerd.
00:43:14
And if there's any nerves out there, I love you guys.
00:43:16
But what I'm saying, You know what? You're going to be too much of a nerve.
00:43:19
You want your kid to get into something so you know that they got some life, you know what I mean? And it's kind of like that with Frank, you know, I want to see Frank get into something.
00:43:27
His first year, when he pushed LeBron, he tried to push LeBron.
00:43:31
He didn't have enough strength to really move LeBron.
00:43:34
Yeah, he kind of pushed LeBron and and Frank's body still went the opposite way.
00:43:37
But but, you know, but I like to see that you know, just a little bit of it, you know, to let you know that, you know, he has that he has that kind of mentality.
00:43:49
Had a player one time that it's really good. Ballplayer.
00:43:55
Well, 64 guard.
00:43:58
You know, for us, for our team.
00:44:00
Hey.
00:44:01
Played from everywhere from the guard to the four spot, and we picked up a player that was about 68 and we were playing, you know, we were playing a team, and we needed to win this game to go to the championship in the tournament.
00:44:15
And you, you know, the one kid was, you know, he was like, he was my guy.
00:44:20
He had been there with me and the center, you know, we picked him up.
00:44:25
He was almost unstoppable.
00:44:26
Download, right.
00:44:29
So what I was trying to get them to do, I wanted I said, I want you to pass it to such a such download.
00:44:35
I want you to cut to the basket.
00:44:37
He's gonna dip it off to you for the layup.
00:44:40
You know that.
00:44:41
You know, we had the whole thing set up right in my mind.
00:44:46
I kind of was like I should just give him the ball and let him go one on one.
00:44:50
Because I know he could go ahead and get the bucket, right? Probably most likely, I gave him a 65% chance to just going ahead and getting that bucket, right.
00:45:00
But I knew if we if this happened, it was going to be an easier just an easy bucket, and maybe he would have gotten fouled.
00:45:09
So he went and he passed it to the big guy down low, cut to the basket.
00:45:14
He was wide open.
00:45:15
The big guy traveled before he passed.
00:45:17
He passed it, but he traveled before he passed.
00:45:20
Call the travel. We end up losing.
00:45:22
We don't go to the championship.
00:45:24
Right? And I spoke to, you know, I spoke to him and I was like, You know, you know, we talked that when he was like, he was like, Coach should just let me go ahead and get mine.
00:45:35
I had it and I was like, You know, sometimes you might just have to go ahead and do that.
00:45:39
If I tell you one thing and you think it's wrong, just go ahead and do it.
00:45:43
We'll talk about it afterwards.
00:45:45
if it's something that I was really passionate about and I get in your face about it, we just do it what I'm saying.
00:45:50
But we had that kind of relationship, you know? I'm saying at that point, I don't know if I was right or wrong, but maybe I should have just let him go ahead and, you know, it was his team, basically.
00:45:59
So they just let him go ahead and do what he does.
00:46:03
But he's the kind of player that's going to do what the coach says.
00:46:07
You know what I'm saying? And the coach isn't always gonna be right.
00:46:12
You know, I'm saying sometimes the coach is gonna be wrong.
00:46:14
If you feel certain things on the court, you know, and you had that kind of relationship with your coach, then you might just have to go ahead and do certain things.
00:46:22
Sometimes as a player, I like to Frank see Frank do some of that, just like you know, I'm gonna make this decision out here on the floor.
00:46:30
I'll deal with coach afterwards, but I'm gonna be strong enough to make this decision regardless of what the coach says.
00:46:37
You know, I'm saying Um, yeah.
00:46:40
I don't know if he has that.
00:46:41
You know that kid? I think in that situation we both grew and, you know, as we played more games, you know, I came to understand.
00:46:50
Okay, I'm gonna just let this guy go ahead and make a couple of decisions, you know, if I think he's going the wrong way this and that.
00:46:56
If he took a bad shot, you know, I throw my hands in the air like this, like, Yo, what's up and shake his head like, all right, I got it, you know, saying so.
00:47:04
But I mean, situations like that you grow.
00:47:06
But I'd like to see Frank and maybe he Maybe this is a year he starts to do some of those things.
00:47:12
Yeah, And I think he's gonna do it because, you know, I think clips is gonna light that fire under him.
00:47:19
And because of the confidence he's gonna have, I think he's gonna be able to do those you know, plenty of more stuff that we didn't see from him.
00:47:27
You think it za conference? It's not only the confidence in the shot.
00:47:31
I think it's gonna be confident for his minutes for his playing style for his, you know, role on the team.
00:47:37
He's gonna be able to do more.
00:47:40
Yeah, and I see, Ralphie said, Um, you know, it has to be taught that the coach isn't always right.
00:47:45
That is something that's true, you know? You know, you know, most players, there always is kind of like what the coach says Do the coach says the coaches right, The coaches right? And that's not always the case, you know, saying it's not always the case at all.
00:47:57
Sometimes you know, a coach thinks he sees one thing, but the players are the ones who can actually feel it.
00:48:02
And you got as a coach, you gotta be able to say, Let me hear what my players were saying you know what I mean? Um Then he said, It's kind of hard for Frank to do that, and especially since he's been on a short leash for some time, that's a hard read for him.
00:48:16
I agree it is.
00:48:18
But you know, at some point I think you know, you grow when you grow up, just like a son with his father.
00:48:26
You know, you have that one moment where you're like, He ain't telling me nothing no more.
00:48:32
She watched this.
00:48:34
You might get beat down, but, you know, you know, you might you know, you might get jacked up throwing up against the wall once or twice, but, you know, you have those moments where you got to do that, you know? I mean, yeah, it happens.
00:48:50
Talk about Mitchell Robinson.
00:48:53
Yeah.
00:48:55
Mitchell Robinson is an enigma for me.
00:48:58
I don't know.
00:48:59
It's hard read, you know, it's a it's a it's a hard read on how to approach Mitch.
00:49:07
You know, he just, you know, on matches point, I think I just hope that Ridge Paul is not to open Mitch his head.
00:49:17
No, because I know that when you know he's gonna be the agent office and stuff like that, I just hope he doesn't have to black often influence on Mitch because, you know the influence is gonna be strictly one way.
00:49:30
Do yourself, You know, all the things that are gonna work for you.
00:49:35
So and, you know, coming with the situation.
00:49:37
Contract situation coming up soon.
00:49:40
Let's say soon.
00:49:41
Um, you know, I just hope that that that that just stays on the team goals, sets his goals, you know, also, but they're not gonna be affecting the team.
00:49:52
You know, in team team, first mentality for handle.
00:49:56
Do you think he can handle? You know, if Tom Thibodeau is, you know hard on him.
00:50:04
Do you think he can handle that? He hasn't really been coached.
00:50:08
Yeah, exactly.
00:50:09
And this might be a problem for him.
00:50:12
Also, because he didn't play in college.
00:50:14
So, you know, and let's let's be true.
00:50:17
Those high school, you knows, he high school game he was playing with.
00:50:21
He also, you know, was transferring from this from that.
00:50:24
No, I'm not sure.
00:50:26
He had a coach like thieves, right? That he had to figure out, You know, to be that the younger, you know, maybe not the younger right.
00:50:35
I just just the player.
00:50:36
And what when the coaches say is is like, you know, ah, same talking, right? So I hope just that if you know thieves, this communication with Mitch isn't clear for him that you know the assistance.
00:50:50
We're gonna make it clear on the expectations are gonna be known and stuff like that.
00:50:55
So I I really hope that which is going to respond really? Well, I just feel that he also might lose a little bit confidence because off his role on the team, I still kind of don't Maybe not like I don't see the, you know, the things that that how how is he going to be used on the team? You know, because, you know, I don't see a player that tips coach before that had exactly the skill set that Mitch has.
00:51:22
So, you know, it might be shaky ground for Mitch at this point, but I hope, you know, both guys can, you know, have a sit down, work it out, you know, clear up the expectations lists and and stuff like that the goals and and and make it work.
00:51:37
We know that they've said that he can adjust, and we saw that he can adjust to the roster he has is presented with.
00:51:44
Let's hope he can make Mitchell, you know, work because, you know, it's gonna be a hard thing for Knicks Knicks, You know, fans to swallow with this is gonna bench Mitch or play him, like, you know, 57 10 minutes.
00:51:55
Right? That's gonna be hard, because everyone have from the fan standpoint.
00:52:00
They have the expectations that Mitch is the guy.
00:52:02
Almost, You know that he's a really high rotation player.
00:52:05
Expects 30 35 minutes from him, you know? Uh, yeah, you know, not too high on that topic.
00:52:14
I think, you know, saves might bring, you know, a bucket of cold water on his head.
00:52:19
See, you know that that's a bucket of cold water on Mitch's head.
00:52:22
That z I like that because my it's there was time in New York.
00:52:29
It's been This seems like on the Fizdale, this carefree type of environment.
00:52:37
Yeah, which fits it works for Mitch, right? That's that's kind of who Mitch is, right? Care free kind of guy has a lot of fun.
00:52:49
Uh, I feel like that environment is going to change drastically with Tom Thibodeau and the coaching staff. That's here.
00:52:59
You know these guys, they're gonna come in Leon Rose.
00:53:03
Tom Thibodeau.
00:53:05
They want something different.
00:53:07
I think you know David Fizdale, you know, with whatever was given to him, whatever kind of rules or whatever the plan was on building the team, it felt like, you know, it just felt like a freaking summer camp or something, You know, with the guys.
00:53:29
It was just too fun loving, two fun loving right which, like like we said, Mitch fits into that.
00:53:36
It's gonna be different with Tom Thibodeau.
00:53:38
You know, the joking and playing that Mitch does.
00:53:41
Tom Thibodeau might be like, You know, we're not doing that.
00:53:44
You know? We wanna we wanna win.
00:53:46
We need to cut that out. We need to be focused.
00:53:48
We need to be serious.
00:53:49
Save those jokes for the hotel room.
00:53:52
Save those jokes when you get home or when you guys are out doing what you do bowling, whatever it is, don't bring it to practice.
00:53:58
Don't bring it into the locker room.
00:54:00
Um and so I don't know how Tom Thibodeau should approach Mitch, you know, as far as you know, coaching him, that's that's Ah, I'm not answer is a I don't I don't know.
00:54:17
I'm not sure e got to think about it some more.
00:54:20
That's a tough one.
00:54:21
Yeah, let's Let's hope you know what is going to be working with Mitch, and you know he's gonna ease him.
00:54:25
And the let's call it may be the probe, the new culture and stuff like that.
00:54:30
I hope what is gonna take much under his wing and and try to work with him? Not only can you paint because, you know, campaign works with big eyes, but, you know, we saw reports that that what he was also, you know, down in, uh, Louisiana wherever messages and and worked with him.
00:54:44
So e hope he's gonna be like that.
00:54:47
He's going to do what he did with J R.
00:54:49
To Mitch.
00:54:50
That will be awesome.
00:54:51
Should have said something we should have, you know, make a spoiler alert for for Kevin that we're gonna say.
00:54:55
About What? About Mitch, bro.
00:54:57
We're gonna have a hey.
00:55:01
Probably is gonna You know, I'll be expecting a text any minute.
00:55:06
It's gonna go crazy.
00:55:09
Oh, but I mean, I mean, like we said, you look at high school, those guys, probably the coach Mitch, I'm sure his high school coach, you know, coach tone, but probably wasn't hard on him.
00:55:23
He was the best player, the most talented player, and looking at the competition, they would probably they were playing and looking at his team.
00:55:32
It was kind of like, What can I say to Mitch? Look at everyone else.
00:55:34
What kind of
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The Coach's Corner: Approaching the Players

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Simeon Russell @SimeonRussell

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Nick family.
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What's popping? We're back in the building.
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I apologize.
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Any technical issues, But we are back, all right? And we're gonna We're gonna We're just gonna take it from the top.
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So welcome to the coach's corner.
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Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, I'm saying your man sin and he is here in the building with me and we're gonna break down.
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Today we're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau, right? We're gonna take a break from our usual film sessions.
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We're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau and how Tom Thibodeau might approach certain players on this team.
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And this is an important, important topic, right? Some people may look and say I It is kind of corny. It's not corny.
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This is It's an important topic because every player has a different personality.
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They bring different characteristics to the team.
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And so the way that you approach those players can go a lot into developing chemistry into getting the best out of that player.
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And then, of course, you can't show favoritism.
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Sometimes the way that you approach a player appears to other players that you're showing favoritism.
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It's not showing favoritism.
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It's just I've got a I could be tough with this guy.
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I might need to be delicate with this guy.
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You know, I might need to be even killed with this guy.
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I find your best coaches know how to reach a player, know how to interact with the players personality.
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And that's not easy.
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Especially if you've got someone who is just, you know, I know one way this is the way that I do it.
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That could be difficult.
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You know what I'm saying? I said, we're gonna talk about Tom Thibodeau.
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We're gonna talk about his personality, players, personalities and how Tom Thibodeau and the coaching staff not just Tom, but the coaching staff might address that player and get the best out of that player by developing a relationship.
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Alright, so Andy E.
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I guess we just start with Let's talk about Tom Thibodeau in his personality, right? And you know what? What? What does he bring to the table with his personality? Uh, no.
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Uh, no.
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First of all, he's a strong headed, strong Maduro.
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I think he's more, you know, off.
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Maybe not dictate a right, but like a autocratic coach, he's gonna demand this and this style of play from this these guys on.
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And I think like we said in the first cut that, um probably he's gonna have sit downs with these does as a team, as personal guys and you know, he's gonna have team goals and he's gonna have personal calls for for all the players.
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And that's what I expect from every coach with thieves.
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I think you know it's gonna be about the communication with the players on, you know, I feel he will probably go his old style old way, meaning that he's gonna be straightforward with them.
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No, no turning corners, stuff like that, hiding, you know, going behind doors and then talking about players, you know, and that on.
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I think at the beginning, if a team has a new coach, I think all the players will respond.
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But during the season, when you know the results are not gonna be there or no something, never negative is gonna happen.
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And I don't know some rifts in the locker room, stuff like that, Uh, that communication channel might be no.
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A little bit blurry might fail on as I see it.
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That's where you know the assistant coaches coming or a vet like Taj Gibson he's going to communicate through.
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You know, he's gonna be that that middle point, right? Or the assistance cultures, they're gonna be the middle point on unless things really sees that.
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You know, a guy needs, you know, some some positive I don't know impulse from him.
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Of course he's going to do it right, But I don't think he's gonna be one of the coaches that he's gonna have expectations from, you know, and individual way to talk with every other player, right? I think he's one of the old style coaches that he saw.
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He he had the winds and under his belt.
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He has a championship from from Boston as an assistant, and I think he's gonna be the I'm the I'm the boss here.
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I demand this and this, and I think, like I said at the beginning is gonna be enough to have all the players you know under him.
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But as we go forward, some, some might, you know, crumble under that.
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And then well, we're going to see the adjustments happened.
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Do you think there's gonna be any kind off? He said In earlier interviews, ESPN this and that that, you know, he's learned a lot from coaching over the years and that he's, uh, you know, maybe learn how to take a smoother approach with players.
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Is that even in his personality to do so? I mean, you could see that you could see his face on the screen right now.
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It's probably screaming at the referee, but still is it even in his personality to do so? And maybe he starts out that way and then, you know, kind of I don't want to say switches up, but maybe he starts out like, You know what? I am going to approach my players like this.
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That and the other thing.
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But then when you start getting into the thick of it, your true nature usually comes out.
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You know, the true nature shines through.
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Yeah, and you know what I think? I think when the brass hired him, right, I think they had expectations for him.
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They of course they have, you know, multiple conversations, and they try to figure it out if he's able to adjust, you know, toe this new.
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I don't know.
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Maybe not.
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Not not style of playing, but toe dip mentally off these young kids, right? Because he's growing older.
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But, you know, the players change, right? It's not these guys that came into the N b a 20 years ago.
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There a little bit softer, softer, mentally software.
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You know, maybe physically, they don't react like those guys in the league back in the day.
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So I'm guessing he has to adjust.
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The question is, is he gonna adjust as soon as you know is gonna be recommended? Maybe not recommended.
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Assume it's gonna be, um, you know, a soon as he realizes that it's needed right to adjust because, you know, we didn't see him, you know, making adjustments. That good.
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Because, you know, he wasn't our coach.
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And I don't think we followed tips that good when he was in Minnesota, where he was in the boat.
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Right? Right, right.
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Well, you know, he's got a coaching staff there, you know, hopefully he uses his coaching staff accordingly.
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You know, that.
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Be the smart thing to do, and I think he will.
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I think that he will, because he's got some good guys, you know, you got Kenny pain there so that he can help.
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You know, he's been to college assistant, right? So he's used Thio.
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You know, being that guy like die hard Knicks fan is saying in the chat, You know, you got your assistant coaches to be that olive branch.
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He's used to being that Olive Branch.
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Mike Woodson, I think, is he does a really good job, which was evident to me when he coached the Knicks.
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You know, when he was coaching, mellow with them guys, you know that he's able to manage personalities, and I think that's how you got the best out of that team.
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You know, if he was able to manage personalities Onda, Toby, truce, Um, that that's the biggest one of the biggest roles for for those assistant coaches is Toby, that middle guy between the head coach and, you know, and the player because they're not on Lee.
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They'll to develop a shot or to teach defense or, I don't know, develop individual skills, right? They're a part of the coaching team, coaching staff and the whole team and the whole organization, so you know everybody's gonna have that same goal.
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And let's hope that, you know nobody's gonna have some, you know, put personal goals ahead of the team goals.
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That's when it's all gonna be working out.
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Yeah, so let's do this.
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Let's start with R. J.
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Barrett, right? Right now he is the you know, he's the shining star for the New York Knicks right now.
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Okay, R.
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J. Barrett.
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What is the best way for Tom Thibodeau to reach RJ? Well, you know, as as I see it, he's he's a young guy.
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And from what we saw in his first season and his mentality and his approach to the game, I'm guessing you just go straight ahead of him, right? You don't go around.
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You don't know.
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You just call him up.
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You know, a zoo said before before a meeting before a game after a game and just, you know, go blood on it like RJ distant.
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This right? This is this wrong? You gotta just the wrong things to make it happen better, right? And I don't think, you know, we need to even say something else here with r J.
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I think he his mental, you know, preparation for the game, for a basketball player, for a leader on this team in the future, I think it's perfect.
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Then I think they're gonna mesh.
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So yeah, I agree.
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As I said before, I do I think they are going to mess.
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I think they have similar outlooks on the game of basketball in the way that you should approach the game of basketball.
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I think RJ has a strong mentality.
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I think he's a mentally tough person.
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I think being mentally tough is important in any sport that you play.
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And I think RJ is a mentally tough player.
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Hopefully, that's going to resonate with the rest of the team.
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And I'm not saying we have guys that are soft, but I just hope that it resonates with everybody on the team right here.
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His mental toughness.
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And when you got a coach like Tom Thibodeau, you've got to be mentally tough to Yeah, you gotta be mentally tough to deal with Tom Thibodeau.
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Yeah, and to play in this markets in because we got that New York is not your regular, you know, market over N B 18 right? This is one of the hardest places to play.
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But if if you know the reward is gonna be huge, if if if we're gonna be winning song.
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Yeah, so? So I agree.
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I think that you can.
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I think Tom Thibodeau can just come thio RJ and say, Hey, you're not doing this.
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That and the third.
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This is what I expect from you.
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You know, I don't you know, and R J is the type of player that's gonna go out and say, Okay, this is what Coach needs me to do.
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This is what I'm going to do.
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You know, I hope that Tom Thibodeau is the type of coach that really does build a relationship with the players.
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And I'm not talking about a David Fizdale type of relationship, right? I'm talking about the type of like like the I don't always want to say, father, son, but the type of relationship where players just straight up respect them, they're afraid they have a healthy fear of him.
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Yeah, I don't get offended or, you know, play out.
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You know, like little kids.
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No, no process and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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And, you know, I think RJ, I think RJ will have that kind off respect for Tom Thibodeau.
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You know, he comes from a place where coaching is, you know.
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Ah ah place from good coaching, right? A place where, you know, coming from Duke where, you know, you have strong systems in place and all those type of things.
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So I think he will respond well to it is what he's used to, you know, And I think he was.
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So I think he'll respond.
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Well, I think he'll respond well to Tom Thibodeau.
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Uh, and probably any approach that Tom Thibodeau brings the RJ because I think RJ is just a tough guy and the tough minded guy, and they think I like so, you know, I'm not really worried about RJ now, somebody somebody said, Ralph, I think it was robbed Diaz before the stream went down the first time, Uh, said that he's afraid that RJ, you know, it has an au type of mentality, you know? And when some players have, um, and a u mentality, they're kind of like I'm the guy.
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Your team is nothing without me.
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So what? I you know what I want? I'm going to get I don't think he has that kind of that kind of mentality.
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If that's what Ralph is was saying, I don't think he has that kind of mentality.
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You know, I think RJ is coachable and wants to be coached.
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Right? The next guy, I have a lot more concerned about the next guy than I do about R. J.
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Barrett.
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All right, We're talking about Julius Randle, right? Yeah.
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This to me between Tom Thibodeau and Julius Randle.
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Yeah, it can either be that Julius Randle is gonna have one of the best years of his career.
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Or it could be explosive.
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I don't even see a middle ground.
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I see it being wanted it to, you know, I'm not exactly sure which way it's gonna go.
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Right.
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Um, if you look at some of the things that Julius Randle had in this contract, he had incentives to make the All Star team right.
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You get a bonus if you make the All Star team incentives if you're all defensive player.
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Okay.
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So it tells you a little bit about the expectations that his team when I say his team, you know, his agents, so on and so forth have for him the three expectations that he might have for himself and the expectations that last year's team had for him to build those things into his contract, right? So it might tell you a little bit about his mentality of who he might think he is as a player, right? He may think that he is on the cusp off going toe another level and should be approached as such.
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You know what I mean? Um, approaching Julius Randle, you may approach Julius Randle a little bit differently than you approach RJ, right? He's been in the league a little bit longer, so that's one aspect of it.
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Uh, and two, I think he's the kind of guy that you have Thio.
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You know, you brush the ego a little bit.
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Rusty ego, you know, you sit him down and said, Come on, let's let's have a sit down Let's have a conversation And he said, Listen, I like that you're doing this.
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I like that.
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You're doing that.
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I like that you're doing this. I like that.
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You're doing that.
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Here's some things where I think you really need to work.
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Let's set up this plan on how we're gonna get these these things done, and if they don't get done, this is what's going to happen, right, and you come to it you know, and you talk and you you keep your standards as a coach and you keep your standards of the team.
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But you sit down with that player and you explain, say, Listen, here's the standards we set forth just like anybody else.
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If you don't reach these, then here's what's got to happen.
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You know what I'm saying? And I think he's the type of player where you've got approach that way, where r.
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J you could just be like, Listen, you didn't do this.
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You need to get this done now, when Julius, you might have to approach it a little bit differently.
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Yeah, and, you know, I agree with everything you said.
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I just think that this kind of personal goals on made on paper before tips came, you know, they're not gonna be erased, right? Because it is not going to come and say like, Okay, Julius and in the personal, you know, before the season meeting, Julius, listen, I don't care what you got in the contract.
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I don't care about none of those individual things.
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We're a team and I want only theme, you know, goals right.
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But that's the first place that he might get offended.
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Of course, I don't know if he was gonna do that, right, But I don't expect him to do that.
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But like you said, he's gotta, you know, work with Julius more like when an egg.
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Then go straight up on her because he can get, you know, offended.
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Of course, at the beginning, it might work like I said before for the whole team and that that kind of approach my work Because I think they're also the players.
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They understand.
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What? What kind of coach Thibs is right.
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So they're preparing mentally before even the first meeting after those short individual workouts.
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They they know him, right? So and they have expectations of them.
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So I'm guessing nobody's gonna, you know, cry or you know, have be act soft and and think, OK, I'm not gonna make the team because this is a coach and and go mentally, you know, soft, right.
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But I'm guessing you gotta be more careful with Julius than with Orgy.
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And as you said, it's gonna be it's gonna be, You know, it's gonna be black or white.
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It's gonna work or it's not gonna work totally.
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There's no middle ground here.
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And the only thing that that can happen perfectly is the, you know, adjustment off treating Julius like through the assistant coaches.
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We have Kenny pain, which, you know, work with him and the call in college.
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Right? So I'm guessing that that might be one of the biggest reasons that Kenny got the job.
00:19:29
Even that, you know, he knows Julius.
00:19:31
He knows how to pep talk him, you know, before games and stuff like that.
00:19:36
And things might be okay.
00:19:37
You don't wanna listen to me or, you know, I don't get through you through to you any go. Just do it.
00:19:44
They're not gonna be like, you know, saying this to the media, right? It's gonna be in the coaches meeting and stuff like that, but that they might try to trick Julie's like that.
00:19:52
Okay, I'm going to say the team part, and then, you know, Kenny is going to be at work outside shooter out.
00:19:58
You know, he's gonna be Julius isn't.
00:20:00
Just do this, and this is gonna work out.
00:20:02
He's gonna work out.
00:20:03
And, you know, Julie's doesn't have to know that that it's really steps talking through Kenny, right? they're just gonna make him think that that it's, you know, that there's more Kenny, you know, working out with him, or would you or whoever on not only if he's gonna be having, you know, our top relationship with.
00:20:22
And, you know, I think that I mean, I'm hoping, though, that Randall and tips can develop a close relationship, because, of course, we gotta hope that, you know, from from the beginning, right? You know, I think that those two players right there, RJ and Julius Randle if I'm Tom Thibodeau, even though you may have to approach those two guys differently assuming that they're both on the team when they start, I'm bringing these two guys together.
00:20:56
I'm saying, Listen, we need to be on the same page, right? We need to be on the same page.
00:21:07
I need you guys to help spread my voice throughout the team, you know, and some people may not want to give, You know, Julius Randle, this kind of respect right now I get it.
00:21:18
I know a lot of people just want him gone, but assuming that he's on the team, he's gonna be one of the players that you're gonna have to do that to say, Listen, this is what we have right now, Assuming that you don't get somebody else, that's, you know, if you don't assume you don't get a Chris Paul or another type of player like that.
00:21:35
If R.
00:21:36
J and Julius Randle are your two primary players coming into this season, then those are the guys.
00:21:43
You're gonna have to sit down and say We need to have this conversation because us three need to be on the same page.
00:21:48
You might even pull in Taj Gibson into that conversation, right? As a coach, it is important that your top players you have your top players preaching what you preach, right? Yeah.
00:22:02
And with Julius again, uh, with Julius again, you know, his age difference with RJ means something to because RJ still, you know, he's 1920 years old.
00:22:15
He's still in that mode where, you know, like you listen to your parents and you know, you're getting to the point where you're like, I kind of wanna, and I'm trying to do my own thing, you know, saying why my father keep talking about this and that when you're 26 years old you like, man? I don't give a **** what my father just said.
00:22:33
This is what I'm doing.
00:22:34
You know what I'm saying? So you're like Julius might be kind of at that age to where he's like, you know, he's growing into being a man, and so, you know, you got another guy that's coming in by blah, blah, blah, blah like, Yo, hold up.
00:22:46
You know, I'm a man, too, you know what I mean.
00:22:49
So, you know, that kind of thing kind of comes in where, you know, age means something.
00:22:53
So, you know, you approached Julius a little bit differently, but you still bring into together, I think and say this is this'd is you know, I need you guys.
00:23:04
I need you guys assistance.
00:23:05
I need you guys help for both of those players.
00:23:08
I think that's the way right there off the back to get them to be like, Okay, you know what? I like this, you know, I'm saying I like the position that he put me and how I feel about it.
00:23:17
Yeah, that's that's why I say I think that that from the beginning, tips can show maybe he can bend a little bit right for, like the rules he has or think.
00:23:28
But I don't think he can go like, OK, Julius, what do you think and and asked like Julie is going to say, I know I don't like morning shootarounds or whatever, right? So I think you know, he has to be strict because, you know, Julie is also like you said about the age.
00:23:43
He's not over 30 right? So he can't say, like, just trade me.
00:23:47
I don't care right? He still wants to play here.
00:23:49
He wants developers, the n b a player grow us an NBA player.
00:23:53
So I think he should, at least from my point of view, he should respect and appreciate that Thieves is a coach and and it's gonna coach with a strong hand.
00:24:03
E think that's that's That's a good thing for him at this point of his career.
00:24:07
If he's gonna be like 34 35 you know, then you don't care right, because you know it's the last legs of U.
00:24:14
N.
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And you know, in the n B A and and less contract.
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Probably.
00:24:18
But at this point, I think he should really appreciate and buy in fully toe.
00:24:23
Whatever says because, you know, we we can't have any and, you know, rifts in the locker room.
00:24:29
Because if steps is gonna lose the locker room and some guys like if imagine we had the same squad last year, right? They will have this year.
00:24:38
He would have Elford, whatever a rift between tips and Randall will probably split the locker room.
00:24:45
You know, Alfred would say, You know, I alone Julia's, like, eight years or 10 years now, right? Why you gonna listen to dips? They're not gonna fire both of us, so, you know.
00:24:54
And when you have that split and you know not the same goals, it's really bad for team.
00:25:00
Yeah, these are developing team, right? So And I see someone saying, Ralph, I think it was robbed.
00:25:06
Es hey said approach, Randall much, much tougher.
00:25:12
And then die hard.
00:25:13
Knicks said Julius is a father.
00:25:14
I think he's gonna need that respect.
00:25:16
Hey, wants to learn how toe win.
00:25:18
What can he do? Finally, you know, what can he do to finally play winning basketball? I agree with both guys.
00:25:24
I think that you could be tough, but also be respectful to a player, you know? I mean, and I think if Tom Thibodeau was that way with Julius Randle, I think Julius Randle will respond.
00:25:34
Well, you know, if he's that way, if he shows him that respect as a man, you know, because yes, he is a father.
00:25:40
He has his own Children, right? You know, his own child, and he's a husband.
00:25:46
You show him that respect.
00:25:48
But you're also like, but I'm not going to bend the rules and the standards of this team.
00:25:54
I'm going to give you the respect, but we're not gonna bend.
00:25:57
I think it could work, you know? Didn't work the next guy on the list.
00:26:04
And you know Kevin Knox.
00:26:09
You know, he's up until we get this new draft pick he's gonna be He's the baby of the team.
00:26:16
I guess that's what you want to say.
00:26:19
If I am Tom Thibodeau, I am going to be hard on Kevin Knox, right? I know some people think that it's going to shake his confidence.
00:26:37
I do not think so.
00:26:39
I think that, you know, he may have his times where he's like, I think Kevin Knox wants to be coached.
00:26:46
I really do.
00:26:47
And I think he needs somebody that just pushes him.
00:26:51
I don't think he needs He doesn't need a friend like, you know, old boy over there.
00:26:56
David Fizdale was trying to be his buddy.
00:26:58
He doesn't need a friend.
00:26:59
He doesn't need someone to go out and get ice cream with.
00:27:02
You know, there's just stay up and play video games with He's got teammates for that.
00:27:06
He needs a coach that's gonna kick his ass.
00:27:10
That's what I think about Kevin Knox.
00:27:12
And I think that's what how Tom Thibodeau needs to approach Kevin Knox, you know? You know what? I agree.
00:27:18
I think tips should go hard on every of our players.
00:27:23
But, you know, on Kevin, I think we've got to see how he's going to respond, because I think he might be one of the first guy guys on this roster that we have now that might crumble on their tips and that Z you know, when when the assistance came, come in and, you know, really positive.
00:27:44
Leaving positively reinforced that confidence that you know, those those positive mental, you know, things on him just to make him think that he is really doing this to make you a better player, right? And from tip standpoint, from from Kevin standpoint, as long as he's going to have chances, even if he fails the theme and the coach, he's going to see the light in the tunnel.
00:28:10
And I believe he's gonna work for that.
00:28:12
Unless you know steps is gonna sit in for, like, 30 40 games.
00:28:16
No, that that might break, You know, a guy like Kevin.
00:28:18
But, you know, I still have hope in him as far as I, you know, disliked and even said bad words about him at the end of season.
00:28:27
You know, I really I don't know why I soften up on even on D S.
00:28:33
J on Randall and on Kevin, You know, coming into this season, maybe it's it's that, you know, the lack of next basketball, that that that's making me hungry.
00:28:41
So I just want to see anything on the on the course.
00:28:44
So yeah, and, you know, I dio I hear you when you say that, you know, he's one of those guys that could maybe, you know, the pressure could get to him now.
00:28:56
Um, and if That's the case.
00:28:59
Then he doesn't belong in the N.
00:29:00
B.
00:29:01
A.
00:29:02
That's my opinion on him, right? If that's the case, if you can't handle what Tom Thibodeau is gonna throw at him, then he doesn't belong in the MBA.
00:29:08
I think Tom Thibodeau should just go ahead and throw it at him.
00:29:12
Uh, you know, push.
00:29:14
Try to push him to the limit.
00:29:15
I just I feel like he needs that push.
00:29:19
You know, needs that push pushing to the limit, make him cry if you got to, you know, breaking down to the bone.
00:29:28
Yeah.
00:29:29
And I think this sim is maybe not Kevin's problem, right? But he's still really hey, didn't grow mentally, you know, Like he didn't age mentally yet.
00:29:40
He's still a kid.
00:29:42
Yeah, he's 2021 wherever, right? He's still, you know, he acts like he's, you know, a little bit of younger.
00:29:49
So that's why I only I think that that might break him.
00:29:52
That's the only because in, like, 234 years, I think that he's gonna be really hard, and he's going to, you know, get her often up mentally, physically, whatever.
00:30:02
And he's gonna be a good player.
00:30:04
Just, you know, this is this is by this or the next season might be the season that's gonna break him.
00:30:09
And, like you said, he won't be long in MBA.
00:30:12
So let's hope he's gonna pan out for for the Knicks.
00:30:14
Yeah, because I I just feel like, you know, if if a coach could break you, then you know, like break you down to where you're just going.
00:30:24
And I'm not saying that he has Thio like just scream at Scream at him and holler Adam, that's not to me.
00:30:31
That's not coaching.
00:30:32
That's not coaching, right? What I'm saying is with Kevin Knox, when I say be tough on them, be super tough on them is you don't give them any.
00:30:45
There's no leeway, right? It's like everything.
00:30:49
Everything about how you approach him is very regimented, right? You're developing a relationship with him.
00:30:55
You develop a relationship with him.
00:30:57
You always got to do that right.
00:30:58
That's the E.
00:31:00
I mean, that's such a huge part off coaching, even though the payers getting players getting paid is a huge part of coaching, right? So you develop the relationship with him, but he comes late to practice.
00:31:13
First of all, it should be like this with every player.
00:31:15
But after you've coached for a while and you've been there for a while, someone comes late.
00:31:19
You know, if you have a player has a child and that child was sick, you know, you might say Okay, you know what? This is what you know.
00:31:26
We're gonna do this.
00:31:27
We're gonna do that right? Someone like Kevin Knox. She doesn't have a child.
00:31:31
Not that we know off.
00:31:34
Right.
00:31:35
He comes like the practice, right? Hey, comes late to practice.
00:31:40
Bam.
00:31:41
You don't You don't You don't take no excuses like I don't wanna hear anything.
00:31:45
Whatever it is, whatever the consequences are you making, do those consequences.
00:31:49
And you catch him on every little thing and you sit down and you have talks with him, right? But you're tough on them.
00:31:56
And you know when you're doing drills and practice, he's the first dude you call out.
00:32:01
You let him know I'm watching you.
00:32:03
I am on you.
00:32:05
And you tell them when I stopped doing this.
00:32:07
Be concerned because that means I no longer feel that you got it right.
00:32:12
And you just on them and, you know, I've had to be like that with a few players.
00:32:18
I had this one kid, man, he came to me in the 10th grade and he walked.
00:32:24
He walked about five miles to get to my practice because, you know, whatever it was happening, he walked five miles to get to practice, got the practice, and he was late.
00:32:34
He didn't make it.
00:32:35
It was tryouts.
00:32:36
Actually, he didn't make it.
00:32:37
But because he walked so far, I was like, You know what? I like this.
00:32:40
I like the fact that he had that kind of dedication.
00:32:44
I brought him onto the team, you know, He was you know, I've seen him.
00:32:47
Play was decent.
00:32:48
Ballplayer brought him onto the team, right? But he was a kind of like he would be all over the place.
00:32:55
And, you know, he would, uh I mean, he's the kind of kid who he would just speak without even thinking about what he's saying.
00:33:03
Hey, didn't know where to be on the court.
00:33:06
You know, just all these little things.
00:33:08
Yeah, talent.
00:33:10
But all these little things he didn't know how to do.
00:33:13
And he didn't have to use his talent.
00:33:15
So he was on the bench.
00:33:16
I benched him and I would be on him for everything.
00:33:20
You know, saying he was late to practice even if he walked the practice.
00:33:23
He was late. It didn't matter.
00:33:24
He ran.
00:33:25
He did whatever push the number of push ups we had to do, whatever the consequences were, he had to do him.
00:33:31
I didn't care that he had to walk the practice right because he needed the discipline in order.
00:33:36
Thio in order, Thio in order to make it right, he didn't, uh you know, he sat down the end of the bench.
00:33:45
He would always complain, Coach, I could beat this person one on one.
00:33:48
I could be that person like I don't care.
00:33:50
Do you know where to be on the floor? Do you know what to do when you're out there? Give him his chance to get out there on the floor and being the wrong spot.
00:33:58
I'd pull him out, sit down and tell him about it.
00:34:00
Listen, I told you to be here, here or here.
00:34:06
And this is where you were.
00:34:07
What were you doing? Well coached. Done it up.
00:34:10
Sit here.
00:34:11
Watch the game, you know? I mean, eventually, he finally got it what I'm saying.
00:34:16
And by the time he was a senior in high school, you know, he was one of the leaders of the team.
00:34:22
You know what I mean? And he'll tell you to this day, like, you know, he had to go through it.
00:34:26
We had tough conversations.
00:34:28
He'd be breaking down into tears sometimes because he thought he should be playing this and that and the other thing, he end up going to college and playing in college for, you know, like a division three school or something like that.
00:34:38
But, um, it was cool because he never played.
00:34:41
He only played one year of high school basketball.
00:34:44
You only play the scene that that's what I said, saying that that you know that it's more than basketball, you know, it's about discipline.
00:34:51
Is is about life, rules and and stuff like that.
00:34:54
And if I can plug a short story here, I don't know if you remember Anthony Randolph, the guy that we got traded, you know that that that big four, right? Right.
00:35:03
I remember I was watching the game and he, like, stole the ball on.
00:35:08
He likes completely.
00:35:09
No cut the lanes, stole the ball and dunked like one of the one dunk right.
00:35:14
And he started flexing and talking to the bench of the opposite team.
00:35:17
It was here in Europe after his NBA career, right? You know, he started talking to the opposite bench team and stuff like that.
00:35:24
The guys inbounded fast and his guys scored a three.
00:35:28
Right coach took time out.
00:35:30
He looked at, Randall told him, What are you doing and stuff like that? And Randall responded, Like said, You know, Coach, I was, you know, something like this.
00:35:40
The coach said, like he he acted like, What did you say something back to me? And he pointed the finger to the rocker room.
00:35:48
It was like the second quarter, and he made him stay the whole game in the locker room after that, bro.
00:35:54
And I remember this because I was thinking them.
00:35:57
This coach is gonna get fired.
00:35:58
This guy was playing in the N B.
00:36:00
A.
00:36:01
He's a you know, a huge story in that team, right? No.
00:36:03
Anthony Randall had to buy an ad in the newspaper and say he was sorry to the coach.
00:36:10
It happened like 23 years ago.
00:36:13
I'm gonna pull up the article when I find time.
00:36:15
Wow, It was hilarious for me. It was hilarious.
00:36:18
But, you know, this is how coaches get respect in Europe.
00:36:22
You can't talk back.
00:36:24
I don't remember if you even talk about or even look at the coach.
00:36:27
Like, What are you complaining about? He made them walk to the, you know, to the locker room and made them stay there.
00:36:33
The to the end of the game.
00:36:35
That's that's That's how you do it, man.
00:36:37
E just discipline and discipline doesn't mean screaming.
00:36:42
Discipline is not.
00:36:43
It's not screaming at all, actually, right.
00:36:46
Discipline is not screaming at all, you know.
00:36:49
So I think there's a way you can really be disciplined with Kevin Knox, you know, and and not, you know, break his heart, hurt his feelings and and beat them down.
00:36:58
You could be disciplined.
00:36:59
Why? Building confidence.
00:37:01
And I think that's the way that time tipping on the coaching staff needs to approach.
00:37:04
Kevin Knox having Kenny pain there is gonna be great for Kevin Knox.
00:37:10
Great for Kevin knocks, you know? I mean, I think it's gonna be great form.
00:37:14
So, you know, that's the way that I would approach Kevin Knox, you know? Um, yeah, yeah.
00:37:22
Disciplined man.
00:37:23
Discipline.
00:37:24
I had this one, kid.
00:37:25
I think I told this story before, every every game, his first shot.
00:37:29
It didn't matter if he had a open layup, whatever.
00:37:31
He could come down on the fast break and instead of taking the let me shoot the three right, and if it would **** me off, it ****ed me off.
00:37:41
And I was like, I told him I said, Listen, he might be watching.
00:37:44
All usually watches on YouTube.
00:37:46
I told him I said, Listen, the next time your first shot of the game is a three, you're sitting on the bench.
00:37:53
I'm pulling you out right now.
00:37:54
We were in the game.
00:37:55
It was This was an outside game in D.
00:37:57
C.
00:37:58
On New York Avenue.
00:37:59
We were playing in this outside tournament and he came down.
00:38:03
He had the option.
00:38:05
He could have went to the basket.
00:38:06
He could have pulled the three.
00:38:08
He pulled up to three.
00:38:09
He made it.
00:38:10
I looked at him and I pointed to the bench.
00:38:14
Pull them out or you know, he's seen whoever coming into Southern form.
00:38:18
And I pointed to the bench and sat him down, and that was in the first.
00:38:22
Well, that was actually we played it in half.
00:38:25
Uh, that was, like, the first minute of the first half.
00:38:28
I didn't put him back in until about two minutes to go in the in the in the first half.
00:38:33
Yeah.
00:38:34
Just discipline.
00:38:36
Yeah, Just discipline, man.
00:38:38
You know, um, next guy up the back, Frank. Nil. Aquino.
00:38:47
What's your approach with Frank? You know, you probably know a little bit more about Frank's.
00:38:50
I mean, I think I know his mentality, but you probably know a little bit more about his mentality to me.
00:38:56
Yeah.
00:38:57
You know, I think you know, on this point, it is gonna go.
00:39:01
He can go hardened.
00:39:02
Frank.
00:39:03
You know, I don't think Frank is gonna be rattled because he knows that he can, you know, like, you know, make the expectations that that thing is gonna want him to achieve right, because he's gonna expect defense from him.
00:39:18
I don't know What's the word? I'm gonna be the expectations on the offense event from Frank because, you know, I'm expecting couple of threes here and there, Right? I don't think Tibbs is gonna You know, I think this is This is the player that if he doesn't play well offensively, I mean, maybe not.
00:39:35
Well, upon offensively, if he's not gonna be taking those shots, like we expect him, at least.
00:39:41
Oh, take those shots, right.
00:39:43
I think this is the one thing that tips Mike let slide.
00:39:47
You know that he's not gonna be like Frank.
00:39:50
You should have showed that ball.
00:39:51
Why didn't should be hitting the bench, right? I think he's gonna make that slide on.
00:39:57
But that's only because we don't know the expectations also, right.
00:40:00
But I think he's gonna be really confident in Frank and Frank, and vice versa that Frank is gonna be confident because he knows that thieves is expecting defense first from him.
00:40:13
And, you know, I think I think Frank, you know, played on, you know, learned basketball craft in Europe.
00:40:20
And he had strong headed coaches here.
00:40:23
Rarely.
00:40:24
There's, you know, friendly coach here. Maybe not friendly.
00:40:27
It was a world war like a you know, a really soft coach that doesn't care and stuff like that.
00:40:33
When someone is trying toe teach basketball here in Europe.
00:40:36
Everybody want to have a strong hand.
00:40:39
And And if he made it on the top level in Europe, I think he he already had a great coach.
00:40:46
And and in college, which is the, you know, National French national team coach as well.
00:40:51
And I know he's a hard, you know, most coach as well in the league.
00:40:54
So I believe he he can work.
00:40:56
You know, miracles with Frank a za coach and as the expectations go from thieves.
00:41:03
Yeah, I agree.
00:41:04
I think that Frank, I think Frank can handle it.
00:41:08
I think he's a lot like our Jane is mentality.
00:41:12
You know what I'm saying? Um, he may not have the talent that RJ has, but I think he's a lot like him in his mentality.
00:41:20
Work ethic.
00:41:21
Uh, and you know, he's a coach's player.
00:41:24
I think whichever way to coach approaches him, you know he's gonna respond accordingly.
00:41:29
You know, I mean, eh, So I have no worries about frankly Latina and Tom Thibodeau at all, or anyone on the coaching staff.
00:41:36
Yeah, and I think you know what we can add with Frank.
00:41:38
I think he might be the last guy on this squad toe have toe like to cause any problems in the locker room.
00:41:48
Do it.
00:41:49
If they if they would, I don't know.
00:41:51
Listen, his shoes, she would take it, you know, Don't make correct about it.
00:41:55
Yeah, he's one of those laid back guys that let me ask you, it wouldn't make Is that to his benefit or detriment? Sometimes, no, of course, is gonna be to the detriment sometimes, right? Because they're gonna expect him to be a man and man up sometimes, right? But I think, you know, if he if they if he noticed that they're playing around with him like that, she would stand upright.
00:42:19
But I think, you know, if someone is, you know, making a practical joke on him, it would smile and, you know, take it as a joke and maybe try to prank someone back up, right? But I don't think it would be like or, you know, fight back and have any idea that this might cause, you know, locker room problem.
00:42:37
So now I mean, look, you know, we've seen Frank have some fire.
00:42:43
We I say that you know He's definitely had some fire.
00:42:47
You know, I don't want him to just always be quiet, like Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:42:58
It's it's kind of like, you know, if you have a son and your son is, like, always good and you never got in trouble for skipping school never got in trouble for doing this.
00:43:07
You might think like, yo, what's wrong with this kid? Like most kids get in trouble, something like Why, yeah, you don't want your kid to be too much of a nerd.
00:43:14
And if there's any nerves out there, I love you guys.
00:43:16
But what I'm saying, You know what? You're going to be too much of a nerve.
00:43:19
You want your kid to get into something so you know that they got some life, you know what I mean? And it's kind of like that with Frank, you know, I want to see Frank get into something.
00:43:27
His first year, when he pushed LeBron, he tried to push LeBron.
00:43:31
He didn't have enough strength to really move LeBron.
00:43:34
Yeah, he kind of pushed LeBron and and Frank's body still went the opposite way.
00:43:37
But but, you know, but I like to see that you know, just a little bit of it, you know, to let you know that, you know, he has that he has that kind of mentality.
00:43:49
Had a player one time that it's really good. Ballplayer.
00:43:55
Well, 64 guard.
00:43:58
You know, for us, for our team.
00:44:00
Hey.
00:44:01
Played from everywhere from the guard to the four spot, and we picked up a player that was about 68 and we were playing, you know, we were playing a team, and we needed to win this game to go to the championship in the tournament.
00:44:15
And you, you know, the one kid was, you know, he was like, he was my guy.
00:44:20
He had been there with me and the center, you know, we picked him up.
00:44:25
He was almost unstoppable.
00:44:26
Download, right.
00:44:29
So what I was trying to get them to do, I wanted I said, I want you to pass it to such a such download.
00:44:35
I want you to cut to the basket.
00:44:37
He's gonna dip it off to you for the layup.
00:44:40
You know that.
00:44:41
You know, we had the whole thing set up right in my mind.
00:44:46
I kind of was like I should just give him the ball and let him go one on one.
00:44:50
Because I know he could go ahead and get the bucket, right? Probably most likely, I gave him a 65% chance to just going ahead and getting that bucket, right.
00:45:00
But I knew if we if this happened, it was going to be an easier just an easy bucket, and maybe he would have gotten fouled.
00:45:09
So he went and he passed it to the big guy down low, cut to the basket.
00:45:14
He was wide open.
00:45:15
The big guy traveled before he passed.
00:45:17
He passed it, but he traveled before he passed.
00:45:20
Call the travel. We end up losing.
00:45:22
We don't go to the championship.
00:45:24
Right? And I spoke to, you know, I spoke to him and I was like, You know, you know, we talked that when he was like, he was like, Coach should just let me go ahead and get mine.
00:45:35
I had it and I was like, You know, sometimes you might just have to go ahead and do that.
00:45:39
If I tell you one thing and you think it's wrong, just go ahead and do it.
00:45:43
We'll talk about it afterwards.
00:45:45
if it's something that I was really passionate about and I get in your face about it, we just do it what I'm saying.
00:45:50
But we had that kind of relationship, you know? I'm saying at that point, I don't know if I was right or wrong, but maybe I should have just let him go ahead and, you know, it was his team, basically.
00:45:59
So they just let him go ahead and do what he does.
00:46:03
But he's the kind of player that's going to do what the coach says.
00:46:07
You know what I'm saying? And the coach isn't always gonna be right.
00:46:12
You know, I'm saying sometimes the coach is gonna be wrong.
00:46:14
If you feel certain things on the court, you know, and you had that kind of relationship with your coach, then you might just have to go ahead and do certain things.
00:46:22
Sometimes as a player, I like to Frank see Frank do some of that, just like you know, I'm gonna make this decision out here on the floor.
00:46:30
I'll deal with coach afterwards, but I'm gonna be strong enough to make this decision regardless of what the coach says.
00:46:37
You know, I'm saying Um, yeah.
00:46:40
I don't know if he has that.
00:46:41
You know that kid? I think in that situation we both grew and, you know, as we played more games, you know, I came to understand.
00:46:50
Okay, I'm gonna just let this guy go ahead and make a couple of decisions, you know, if I think he's going the wrong way this and that.
00:46:56
If he took a bad shot, you know, I throw my hands in the air like this, like, Yo, what's up and shake his head like, all right, I got it, you know, saying so.
00:47:04
But I mean, situations like that you grow.
00:47:06
But I'd like to see Frank and maybe he Maybe this is a year he starts to do some of those things.
00:47:12
Yeah, And I think he's gonna do it because, you know, I think clips is gonna light that fire under him.
00:47:19
And because of the confidence he's gonna have, I think he's gonna be able to do those you know, plenty of more stuff that we didn't see from him.
00:47:27
You think it za conference? It's not only the confidence in the shot.
00:47:31
I think it's gonna be confident for his minutes for his playing style for his, you know, role on the team.
00:47:37
He's gonna be able to do more.
00:47:40
Yeah, and I see, Ralphie said, Um, you know, it has to be taught that the coach isn't always right.
00:47:45
That is something that's true, you know? You know, you know, most players, there always is kind of like what the coach says Do the coach says the coaches right, The coaches right? And that's not always the case, you know, saying it's not always the case at all.
00:47:57
Sometimes you know, a coach thinks he sees one thing, but the players are the ones who can actually feel it.
00:48:02
And you got as a coach, you gotta be able to say, Let me hear what my players were saying you know what I mean? Um Then he said, It's kind of hard for Frank to do that, and especially since he's been on a short leash for some time, that's a hard read for him.
00:48:16
I agree it is.
00:48:18
But you know, at some point I think you know, you grow when you grow up, just like a son with his father.
00:48:26
You know, you have that one moment where you're like, He ain't telling me nothing no more.
00:48:32
She watched this.
00:48:34
You might get beat down, but, you know, you know, you might you know, you might get jacked up throwing up against the wall once or twice, but, you know, you have those moments where you got to do that, you know? I mean, yeah, it happens.
00:48:50
Talk about Mitchell Robinson.
00:48:53
Yeah.
00:48:55
Mitchell Robinson is an enigma for me.
00:48:58
I don't know.
00:48:59
It's hard read, you know, it's a it's a it's a hard read on how to approach Mitch.
00:49:07
You know, he just, you know, on matches point, I think I just hope that Ridge Paul is not to open Mitch his head.
00:49:17
No, because I know that when you know he's gonna be the agent office and stuff like that, I just hope he doesn't have to black often influence on Mitch because, you know the influence is gonna be strictly one way.
00:49:30
Do yourself, You know, all the things that are gonna work for you.
00:49:35
So and, you know, coming with the situation.
00:49:37
Contract situation coming up soon.
00:49:40
Let's say soon.
00:49:41
Um, you know, I just hope that that that that just stays on the team goals, sets his goals, you know, also, but they're not gonna be affecting the team.
00:49:52
You know, in team team, first mentality for handle.
00:49:56
Do you think he can handle? You know, if Tom Thibodeau is, you know hard on him.
00:50:04
Do you think he can handle that? He hasn't really been coached.
00:50:08
Yeah, exactly.
00:50:09
And this might be a problem for him.
00:50:12
Also, because he didn't play in college.
00:50:14
So, you know, and let's let's be true.
00:50:17
Those high school, you knows, he high school game he was playing with.
00:50:21
He also, you know, was transferring from this from that.
00:50:24
No, I'm not sure.
00:50:26
He had a coach like thieves, right? That he had to figure out, You know, to be that the younger, you know, maybe not the younger right.
00:50:35
I just just the player.
00:50:36
And what when the coaches say is is like, you know, ah, same talking, right? So I hope just that if you know thieves, this communication with Mitch isn't clear for him that you know the assistance.
00:50:50
We're gonna make it clear on the expectations are gonna be known and stuff like that.
00:50:55
So I I really hope that which is going to respond really? Well, I just feel that he also might lose a little bit confidence because off his role on the team, I still kind of don't Maybe not like I don't see the, you know, the things that that how how is he going to be used on the team? You know, because, you know, I don't see a player that tips coach before that had exactly the skill set that Mitch has.
00:51:22
So, you know, it might be shaky ground for Mitch at this point, but I hope, you know, both guys can, you know, have a sit down, work it out, you know, clear up the expectations lists and and stuff like that the goals and and and make it work.
00:51:37
We know that they've said that he can adjust, and we saw that he can adjust to the roster he has is presented with.
00:51:44
Let's hope he can make Mitchell, you know, work because, you know, it's gonna be a hard thing for Knicks Knicks, You know, fans to swallow with this is gonna bench Mitch or play him, like, you know, 57 10 minutes.
00:51:55
Right? That's gonna be hard, because everyone have from the fan standpoint.
00:52:00
They have the expectations that Mitch is the guy.
00:52:02
Almost, You know that he's a really high rotation player.
00:52:05
Expects 30 35 minutes from him, you know? Uh, yeah, you know, not too high on that topic.
00:52:14
I think, you know, saves might bring, you know, a bucket of cold water on his head.
00:52:19
See, you know that that's a bucket of cold water on Mitch's head.
00:52:22
That z I like that because my it's there was time in New York.
00:52:29
It's been This seems like on the Fizdale, this carefree type of environment.
00:52:37
Yeah, which fits it works for Mitch, right? That's that's kind of who Mitch is, right? Care free kind of guy has a lot of fun.
00:52:49
Uh, I feel like that environment is going to change drastically with Tom Thibodeau and the coaching staff. That's here.
00:52:59
You know these guys, they're gonna come in Leon Rose.
00:53:03
Tom Thibodeau.
00:53:05
They want something different.
00:53:07
I think you know David Fizdale, you know, with whatever was given to him, whatever kind of rules or whatever the plan was on building the team, it felt like, you know, it just felt like a freaking summer camp or something, You know, with the guys.
00:53:29
It was just too fun loving, two fun loving right which, like like we said, Mitch fits into that.
00:53:36
It's gonna be different with Tom Thibodeau.
00:53:38
You know, the joking and playing that Mitch does.
00:53:41
Tom Thibodeau might be like, You know, we're not doing that.
00:53:44
You know? We wanna we wanna win.
00:53:46
We need to cut that out. We need to be focused.
00:53:48
We need to be serious.
00:53:49
Save those jokes for the hotel room.
00:53:52
Save those jokes when you get home or when you guys are out doing what you do bowling, whatever it is, don't bring it to practice.
00:53:58
Don't bring it into the locker room.
00:54:00
Um and so I don't know how Tom Thibodeau should approach Mitch, you know, as far as you know, coaching him, that's that's Ah, I'm not answer is a I don't I don't know.
00:54:17
I'm not sure e got to think about it some more.
00:54:20
That's a tough one.
00:54:21
Yeah, let's Let's hope you know what is going to be working with Mitch, and you know he's gonna ease him.
00:54:25
And the let's call it may be the probe, the new culture and stuff like that.
00:54:30
I hope what is gonna take much under his wing and and try to work with him? Not only can you paint because, you know, campaign works with big eyes, but, you know, we saw reports that that what he was also, you know, down in, uh, Louisiana wherever messages and and worked with him.
00:54:44
So e hope he's gonna be like that.
00:54:47
He's going to do what he did with J R.
00:54:49
To Mitch.
00:54:50
That will be awesome.
00:54:51
Should have said something we should have, you know, make a spoiler alert for for Kevin that we're gonna say.
00:54:55
About What? About Mitch, bro.
00:54:57
We're gonna have a hey.
00:55:01
Probably is gonna You know, I'll be expecting a text any minute.
00:55:06
It's gonna go crazy.
00:55:09
Oh, but I mean, I mean, like we said, you look at high school, those guys, probably the coach Mitch, I'm sure his high school coach, you know, coach tone, but probably wasn't hard on him.
00:55:23
He was the best player, the most talented player, and looking at the competition, they would probably they were playing and looking at his team.
00:55:32
It was kind of like, What can I say to Mitch? Look at everyone else.
00:55:34
What kind of

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