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00:00:07
Yeah. Hi.
00:00:08
Welcome to the newest episode Sports Central.
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I'm a deep mood.
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I'm here with my co host, Hunter Ho Days, and we're gonna talk about LP.
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We're gonna talk about the world.
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Siri's some of them recent news, uh, coaching decisions, some Mets news about the ownership.
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And then we're gonna talk about NFL NFL news.
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When we're going to preview the Steelers game, we're going on.
00:00:29
And then we're gonna talk about last week of Virginia Tech game against wait for its last week on our we're gonna preview the Louisville game.
00:00:37
So let's first start some brief thoughts on the world Siri's Normally I would you would start.
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Well, let me first say a few things on my end.
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Um, I thought it was a good world.
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Siri's It was good to see a like a team breaking 30 years.
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Uh, drought.
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The only thing I would say about the World Series that bothered me.
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Waas, the anti ****ytics idiots came in full force because yeah, because for me, my biggest issue is ****ytics.
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It's important.
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It's without it.
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Your team is nothing in business.
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You would be bankrupt if you didn't use data based decision making.
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But I also do think the team's overuse it and I thought about it last couple of days, and then I don't know if you thought about in this context.
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But when When businesses use ****ytics, they using Maurin indicators and, um, yeah, indicators and projection.
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So you're basically imagine you have, like, a box, right? And you're just putting the data into a context of situation is like a box.
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So in that, in that particular situation it would work.
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What was game time decision making, which is what the issue is now? It's not necessarily, um, contracts and everything else.
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It's situational probability.
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So in other words, you're giving information.
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But one situation is different, and then it's pretty much you can do Action A or Action be.
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And depending on whatever action you dio, you enter a different situation and then someone as you make more choices, the situation consistently changes.
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So my biggest issue with like the ****ytics is T in sports teams have started.
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Teams have have try to use the same form or the same applied use of ****ytics in team building.
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Then they wouldn't game time decision making, but what they should do is they should understand that the basis of the basis of both of these situations are different from each other, so they still have to read just how they do it.
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And that's where the eye test, how much did the eye test come into play, and that's where everything else should come into play.
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So I think I texted you about this.
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What I would have done in that situation if I was Kevin Cash was I would not have brought in Nick and I would not have warmed up Nick Anderson, who gave up runs in six office last seven appearances, and I know how good he was.
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I know he's good regulars, even.
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But bringing a guy like Diego Castillo or Pete Fairbanks or sluggers or any of any like reliever, that is good at that point in time.
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That was good and hasn't been used much.
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That's what I would have done and I would have done a battered by batter approach, knowing that was a one notes in game and what are your thoughts on that decision? I wish they would have kept Snell in.
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He was pitching really good.
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I mean, his pitch count wasn't even high, you know? And that's gonna be a decision.
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That he's probably gonna be kicking himself over For what? The rest of his life? The rest of his man.
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Uh, it was the wrong.
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He even admitted after the game, you know, I have to live with it.
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It would belong to stick him like a decision of the time.
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It turned out bad.
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I mean, honestly, I think their best option there was to keep Snell in.
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He was giving your team the best chance to win.
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If you want to bring in the bullpen guy, you know, bring in someone like you said it has not given up a bunch of runs, you know, like you said, like, six out of this last seven innings or something like and you know, what about in a couple other guys that were pitching better? But, you know, I still think their best bet would have had to leave still in the game.
00:04:17
You know, I just think I like ****ytics a lot.
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In any sport, they have 100% have their place and people that are against ****ytics.
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I think they're just a bunch of morons.
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um, in the sports world, those people are just dinosaurs.
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They still live in the 19 eighties or whatever, but I mean, I think at that point, he was too reliant on ****ytics.
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I don't think you should be too reliant on them.
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And I think at that point, he should have just trusted what he was seeing and said, You know what? I'm gonna keep my star out there, and if it bites me in the ass, it bites me in the ass.
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So I think you should have finished the inning.
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And then if you get to the next inning, you assess their Yeah, I think we both agree on, like, using the eye test.
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He should have been put mawr.
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I think my main take away was that I would have been a little more cautious, and I would have micromanage knowing there knowing no, the one run game.
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And so, yeah, so, like, I would have said Like Like I said, You think you said you would have given the chance to finish the inning? I would have said, um given let him go batter by batter.
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So, like if the Mookie Betts at bat was like, even if it was, like a fly out fireball, Um, to the right fielder, if it looks like an eight pitch at bat, Um, chances are Cory Seager, who won the M V.
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P the third time through the order, he would've probably given them the lead like there's a chance.
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So I would have at the first sign of trouble, I would I would have been a little overcautious at that point, but yeah, I absolutely would have given him the chance.
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Thio have them be, um, go pitch to at least one batter, at least one batter and then take it.
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Battered by batter. Almost.
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Micro man.
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Almost. Mike.
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I would have almost micromanaged that situation, but yeah, I think we both agree on they picked they brought in the wrong cash, brought in tow, brought in the wrong reliever, and that Snell should have at least been given the chance now where he would have been solid.
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We don't know.
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Like, who knows? Like maybe Snell gets one more chance.
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One more batter and Mookie Betts hits a home run like you still have that same situation.
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You're still in the same situation live with Yeah, Yeah, I use the eye test more in that situation by just going based off numbers with yeah, and then and like I said and and like I said, like, ****ytics, it zahau you use it not well, as when you it's it's not the fact you're using.
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It's how you use.
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It's like I said, Team building, Team Construction.
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That's the basic form of it.
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And that's when ****ytics are best used because money ball that was used as a survival technique with Houston Dodgers like the early 2000 that was more used for, like a projection based scouting report.
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But now we're talking about situational probability, and we have to readjust our thinking so we can use it.
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We can use ****ytics, but we have to readjust our thinking in that situation.
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So that's my thoughts on that.
00:07:20
But there were also other news that came into play here.
00:07:22
So we're gonna talk about this quick thoughts where your thoughts on MLB, the owners approving to sail to Steve Cohen, Mets fans were happy.
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So, you know, as long as they're happy.
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Yeah, they hated the Wilpons.
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I mean, the will ponder hated.
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I think everyone in New York.
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So, um, yeah, we'll see what he how much he wants to spend for the Mets.
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I think that's the big question.
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How much money? What? Yeah, I heard the first thing.
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I kind of go back to a previous discussion like he wants to advance the Mets ****ytic department.
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Which makes sense, given that Steve Cohen came comes from a business background.
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And that's maybe how he made his billions of dollars.
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Um, so be really interesting.
00:08:03
I think that Andi think, Well, we'll talk about this when we get Thio eight to A J. Hinch story.
00:08:10
Um, they came to player.
00:08:11
But first, let's bring up the new.
00:08:14
The fact that the White Sox and the Tigers now have new managers toe White so and it looks like they went completely opposite directions.
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The White Sox got telling LaRussa out of retirement to manage them on and on, and then the Tigers got a J.
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Hinch.
00:08:30
So what were your thoughts on both of those hirings going through? So that was a surprise.
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I thought he was retired for good.
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The White Sox got a pretty good I think the White Sox are gonna be good soon.
00:08:41
Yeah, I was pretty good.
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You don't like one of the best farm systems in the league? Yeah.
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I mean, they're they're gonna be on the way out of this.
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Might be a hot take.
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I don't think a J.
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Hinch shooting managing this season.
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I think he should honestly still be suspended for what happened.
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But, I mean, I don't think a lot of Tigers fans I'm being used to see how they react to this.
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See how their positive it's positive.
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Yeah, they kind of like, Yeah, it's fine.
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But it's a giant and terrifying.
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Yeah, no.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It might be a hot take.
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I just I think he should still be banned for at least another season.
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That's just my take on that.
00:09:17
I don't know how you feel about it.
00:09:19
Do you think he should be allowed to manage this season after that suspension? I think it's a least a two year suspension, but I would also say this.
00:09:27
Um, if I waas, I would I would I think that the White Sox were in a better position for a J.
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Hinch because let me explain because, um, first of all, for managers and we could bring up the managers versus players saying managers, I think that try to bring up someone else other than a.
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J.
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Hinch keeping him keep him in mind.
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But try to see there's like a minor league manager in every store or something like that.
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But my other issue, my other thing with managers, is no where your team is.
00:10:00
So like, if you look at the Orioles, um, if you look at the Orioles, they are a very They are a rebuilding team.
00:10:07
So if let's say hypothetically tomorrow, Brandon High, just not the manager anymore.
00:10:13
They're still rebuilding team.
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And I don't necessarily want a guy who you would hire in a wind now situation.
00:10:20
I want a guy like a minor league manager or a guy who has who's in player development now, Yeah, with the Tigers.
00:10:29
Yeah, but here's what I'll say, though, about the Tigers.
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A.
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J.
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Hinch was there when the Astros were rebuilding to that point where there were a playoff team so and they have some great pitching prospects, so I e.
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I can see a J.
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Hinch now Granted, we don't know the Astros pitching Waas because of Hinche or or because of Brent Strong.
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They're pitching coach, and we don't know what the The Tigers ****ytic department.
00:10:57
So a lot of people are saying it was a great hire for the Tigers because look what look what hint was able to do with the pitching.
00:11:04
But then you have to consider they're not gonna bring.
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Tigers aren't bringing in Brett Brett strong, and they're not.
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They don't necessarily have the ****ytics department that Houston has, so I don't know whether that's a good move.
00:11:18
I like I said, I would rather see them.
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I'll rather seeing Hinch managed the White Sox because I feel like the White Sox, like you said, are closer to contention.
00:11:27
So that's what I so I would have done that.
00:11:30
And if I waas um, the Tigers, I would have gone with, like someone who was like a minor league manager who was like a pitching coach because other than the guy they picked a number one in this year's draft, uh, Spencer Rhetorical, saying I think that was his name.
00:11:46
Most of their strength and their farm system is their pitching, so they need someone who can relate to younger players more and someone who can, Who has experienced, like, who knows, pitching? That's why I would say so.
00:12:01
I think both of situations were a little, um they didn't pick the right manager per se.
00:12:08
So that's my thoughts on it.
00:12:09
Antonio LaRussa.
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I understand.
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White Sox like fans were saying, Well, at least Tony LaRussa it's like, wasn't involved in the science stealing scandal.
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What the problem.
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But the problem is he's a Tony Loose made some political political comments.
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It might not be good.
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He's anti let the kids play.
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Um, yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah.
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And not only that when the Astros thing came out, I think there was a player that played either with LaRussa in the eighties or against, and he said that Oh, no, no.
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Like the, um, Tony LaRussa is, um, managed teams how to sign stealing scheme in the eighties.
00:12:50
And you could you could find this out.
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So it's sort of like, Oh, we're not.
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It's like at least Tony LaRussa wasn't involved in the science stealing scheme.
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Look it up, he First of all, he's had a ton of problems.
00:13:03
I don't know if Tim Anderson would want to be on the White Sox anymore, and And he has a sign stealing.
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He was involved.
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He's been reportedly involved in the sign stealing scheme.
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It was just in the eighties, and not now.
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So if that one baffles me a little bit, yeah, I will be curious to see how they are A one more baseball thing before we do get to the NFL.
00:13:28
Justin Turner is an idiot for what he did.
00:13:30
That's really all I'm going to say about that.
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That's just a stupid thing.
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But he did, I think.
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Oh, yeah, Absolutely.
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That was one of the dumbest things in the world.
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And then way come out, especially after they tell, you know, I don't care if you put a mask back on.
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You probably just infected your whole team.
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So Oh, and then also the Tampa Tampa Bay Potentially as well.
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So that's the other issue as well.
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Um, yeah.
00:13:53
And the other thing is, it isn't something quick.
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I know we kind of talked about it last week as well, and that that was that with a J.
00:14:02
Hinch coming back one.
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And I think Alex Cora is definitely coming back to the Red Sox, but second, Yeah, second thing is the player.
00:14:08
So I know there was an article that came out that George Springer would didn't.
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Doesn't necessarily want to be with Houston.
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And then Houston, I know it's not the biggest market.
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So do you think that George Springer is gonna have as robust of a market as people will pay for them? I mean, they they're a big bat.
00:14:27
They always get big contract.
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You know, with the coronavirus.
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You want a so much as they normally would for hitters.
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I mean, you're not gonna probably see a $300 million contract being handed out to anyone.
00:14:38
Hell, I mean, 200.
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I don't even know about that.
00:14:41
So I think that you're gonna be a little more cautious when it comes to long term.
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Was with big bats or pictures, too.
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Oh, yes.
00:14:50
Speaking of cost, speaking of caught, you know, speaking of cost, the rays also nontendered, um, not only Mike Zunino, but Charlie Morton.
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But granted, it's also the rays, so they don't necessarily have the biggest mark biggest market.
00:15:03
So the question.
00:15:04
But then they also said they're going to attempt to get Charlie Morgan on a cheaper deal.
00:15:09
So why? So he's s so he might be a free agent.
00:15:13
So, I mean, that just tells you that, like the state of the state of things like Cult Wong's apparently free agent from the Cardinals.
00:15:20
I know the national nontendered.
00:15:22
Four guys, I including.
00:15:26
Yeah.
00:15:27
I mean, a lot of teams are going to, like, save money.
00:15:29
And I think this was I think this is why this was smart.
00:15:32
The Orioles traded way Givens, and I think they traded with maybe a couple other guys that they may have had to pay money to to at least they get back some decent prospects.
00:15:42
E Yeah, so, yeah, so that let's move on Thio football.
00:15:47
Was there anything in the Thursday night yesterday? Yesterday's game that recall your I don't Honestly, man, I didn't really watch the game.
00:15:54
I saw Julio Jones got me about 20 fantasy points, which was nice.
00:15:57
He dropped touchdown, though, because you know, the Falcons, I think they got the win.
00:16:02
They finally another with.
00:16:04
But, you know, they didn't another bad way lose, especially after last week at the buzzer beater from Matt Stafford.
00:16:10
It's just like oh Yeah, I don't think they try.
00:16:13
I think that on the Falcons, they tried to knock score, but apparently the momentum carried.
00:16:19
You think because they had no time outs left, they could have, just if they didn't have scored there, they could have just handed the ball off, gone down like two times called time out and kick the field goal.
00:16:33
Yeah.
00:16:34
I mean, that was awful by the Falcons that last week.
00:16:36
I couldn't believe they get that they had that game.
00:16:38
All you need to do is just run around the field and call town Hall.
00:16:44
Yeah, I know.
00:16:45
Yeah, I see it.
00:16:46
No, but for me, it's like it's just weird that and I don't know what your thoughts do.
00:16:50
You think that they know that Julio and Matt Ryan have the dead cat money? But do you think that they should consider trading them? I don't think e probably to untouchables on the Falcons.
00:17:02
Maybe you, but I'm not really sure if they I think that would also potentially trade him too.
00:17:08
Yeah, No, I agree.
00:17:10
I mean, sometimes I think that depending on their situation, I mean, maybe you should consider it because, but Then again, those contracts are not especially Matt Ryan's case.
00:17:21
Those contracts are not good contract.
00:17:24
So speaking of contracts, so and if you see the thumbnail, if you see like the picture the Ravens resigned their left tackle Ronnie Stanley to a five year, $98.
00:17:36
75 million deal.
00:17:39
Yeah, I I thought he was.
00:17:40
This was like he was a little underpaid.
00:17:43
I mean, he definitely took a hometown discount here.
00:17:45
Yeah, that was That was a big was a big contract.
00:17:48
He's worth it, though.
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He's one of the best tackles on the football.
00:17:51
So you gotta feel bad for Texans, the fans, because because you gave up all those picks for Tunsil.
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Tunsil got $22 million and then, ah, guy that a lot of people say is slightly better than Tunsil or I don't know where he would be compared to.
00:18:07
Tunsil was able to be on a winning team for about $19.
00:18:10
75 million so I mean, that's it just shows how bad badly Bill O'Brien was as a man as a GM a coach to you want to get into the game of the week here I mean, let's just talk about some of the other news first and then because thats briefly talk about it.
00:18:34
Um, the Falcons game.
00:18:37
We already talked.
00:18:38
We already talked about the Falcons game.
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The cowboys just look bad.
00:18:44
Um, yeah, they look bad.
00:18:46
And honestly, I think that, you know, they look bad.
00:18:49
And look, you know, it's bad when RG three were being upgrade over who you have is a quarterback.
00:18:56
Yeah, but I mean Antonucci as well.
00:18:59
Yeah, no Titans game was, You know, Taylor to have on the Steelers.
00:19:05
Came out with blood in that first half.
00:19:07
They just blew them out of the field.
00:19:09
I mean, they Tennessee could stop.
00:19:10
That was both sides of the older than Tennessee, you know, give them credit, they fight.
00:19:14
This isn't the browns over here who just lay up and die when they see what blow them out.
00:19:18
I mean, the Titans are a good team, though.
00:19:20
I think the Titans got they got a little lucky on a couple drives.
00:19:23
E think with Prince William Should have had an interception.
00:19:26
That's why minka, like, kind of screwed up.
00:19:28
And then, um, there touchdown drive to cut it Thio 2014 7 should have been interception, But second after that just went to crap.
00:19:39
But, you know, I always hate to see a former patriot do something bad, man.
00:19:43
You know, e think someone who tweeted this out it was shades of I gotta find the tweet here.
00:19:51
This happened.
00:19:52
I think, in the 2003 playoffs, I think it was the Titans versus the Steelers.
00:19:56
E need to find where this tweet Israel credit. Hang on.
00:20:00
Who was the kicker? I am so sorry.
00:20:04
I'm really trying to find this guy.
00:20:05
Um shades.
00:20:08
Well, I'm gonna find it, but yeah, Joe Nedney.
00:20:12
So they like this.
00:20:13
I watched the highlight.
00:20:14
This was was right around.
00:20:16
I was becoming a fan.
00:20:17
They kind of roughed into hand.
00:20:18
He flopped it and they would have went to overtime.
00:20:20
And then he kicked the winner to send the Titans to the A F C championship.
00:20:24
So it was like Kosowski missed this one.
00:20:26
So for football justices, But, you know, I still think this is now a Super Bowl contender.
00:20:31
I'm fully on board with it.
00:20:33
Uh, this is one of the three best teams in the conference.
00:20:37
Yeah, if they want to get to the Super Bowl, they got to get the one seed.
00:20:42
That's that's the reality.
00:20:43
I don't trust them going to Kansas City.
00:20:45
They gotta have McComb.
00:20:46
Mahomes, come in Pittsburgh.
00:20:47
I think the Steelers can beat them in Pittsburgh.
00:20:50
They're just a play better at home.
00:20:52
They're more comfortable.
00:20:53
They're not for obvious reasons.
00:20:55
But, I mean, you look at this.
00:20:56
You were scheduled after this week.
00:20:58
You have.
00:20:59
You have the cowboys in Dallas.
00:21:01
You beating up on Andy Dalton for 10 years.
00:21:04
Then you have the Bengals come to town.
00:21:06
I mean, you're potentially if you if you win this game, that could be nine, and you're basically you're walked into the playoffs.
00:21:12
At that point, they're locked into the playoffs already.
00:21:15
Because we are, unless you like, lose out or something like that, or you lose, like, six of your next eight games.
00:21:22
You know, a lot of Josh McDaniels did that, I think in 2010 with the Broncos or something, but yeah, I mean, and then you still have Jacksonville. You of Indianapolis.
00:21:30
I mean, you're you're three toughest games left.
00:21:33
Are you guys twice? And the bills I mean, the Steelers can easily go 13 and three this season.
00:21:39
That's not out of the realm of possibility.
00:21:41
It could potentially be even better with how much of a joke their schedule is.
00:21:44
But, you know, we go one week at a time, and this is going to be a dogfight.
00:21:47
But, you know, it was fun to watch that game against the Titans.
00:21:50
I think they're, you know, the top four teams.
00:21:53
I mean, we all know the top four teams in this conference.
00:21:55
It's Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, Titans.
00:21:58
Yeah, I mean, Oh, yeah, I agree, because I didn't even begin.
00:22:01
I think when we're doing our season preview, I said like, um bills.
00:22:05
No, no, I said it was chiefs and Ravens, and then the next group of like four or five was like Pittsburgh, New England, Buffalo, Tennessee.
00:22:14
And then, um, either Indianapolis.
00:22:16
And then maybe Houston.
00:22:18
And and And? And then you have Cleveland.
00:22:20
Some of those other teams.
00:22:21
Yeah, but what do you What do you make of the Patriots? You know, Cam is just really Oh, and apparently were rumors about them.
00:22:30
They might do a fire sale.
00:22:31
I don't know how interest other than Gilmore.
00:22:33
I don't know how interested you would be in those pieces.
00:22:36
I mean, maybe you could get something of value for Edelman, but this is, you know, I mean, Patriot fans are gonna be mad.
00:22:42
It's like, you know what? Welcome to how everyone else's feel the last 20 years.
00:22:45
You can stink for one year.
00:22:47
Yeah.
00:22:48
Oh, no.
00:22:49
I think that Cam had one, too.
00:22:52
I think he had the M v P year.
00:22:53
And then he had, you know, he had, like, two.
00:22:56
Yeah, a couple of good games this year.
00:22:57
But the camp is not yet.
00:22:59
Cam, he I think he I think he most of his career is like, sub 60% accuracy, accuracy percentage.
00:23:07
That's not that's not gonna help you long term.
00:23:11
So I don't think he can.
00:23:13
I don't think he can be a franchise quarterback.
00:23:15
I think that if this year showing us anything he has, like, two or three years left, sadly in his career, if he continues to play this badly, I don't think the Patriots Yeah, like most at most, he has two or three years.
00:23:27
Yeah.
00:23:28
Yeah.
00:23:29
I mean, I don't know.
00:23:30
I don't doubt that he'll get a job because I think that teams are gonna like looking for younger options and all that other stuff.
00:23:35
And then they might look at Haskins or Donald Donald or heck, even maybe even Rosen or something.
00:23:41
But like, there's no way I I think that if it continues to be trash, then this year is done.
00:23:47
Um, they're basically done, I think this year, Anyway, I don't think what Yeah, because they play Buffalo this week, so if they beat s, so if they lose to Buffalo, they're done five.
00:23:57
I mean, it's hard to come out of that hole.
00:23:59
Um, it's just they're just they're not the same.
00:24:01
I mean, I know ballistics, arguably the greatest coach of all time GM Weiss, Not nearly as good as Belichick the coach.
00:24:09
But, I mean, there's only so much he could dio.
00:24:12
But you know, I'm not gonna pity them because they've yeah, and it also wasn't.
00:24:19
It's also that it's also doesn't look good, especially when you see that Brady's and like Tampa Bay and then they go and get and telling you a brown.
00:24:27
So it's like it doesn't matter.
00:24:28
Like if Kris Godwin's out for a couple of weeks.
00:24:31
Like until like, a B is gonna be there in a week or so and he's gonna basically replace Godwin.
00:24:39
But then when Godwin comes back, it's Godwin.
00:24:41
It brown.
00:24:42
It's, um it's Evans.
00:24:44
It's Cam and braise O J. Howard.
00:24:47
It's for Nat.
00:24:48
It's LaShawn McCoy.
00:24:49
Ah, it's Ronald Jones.
00:24:51
I mean, and they and they got a great defense.
00:24:54
I mean, they were one of the top three teams in the NFC.
00:24:57
How many teams come out of the NFC? I mean, honestly, dude, you can see four teams coming along.
00:25:03
Four teams from the NFC West, I think might get in. That's crazy.
00:25:06
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:25:08
What? Here's what should happen.
00:25:10
All four teams in the NFC West.
00:25:12
If they're really they should go in.
00:25:13
And no teams in the NFC least should go.
00:25:16
Just put the Bears have the Bears win the NFC like it's a e.
00:25:22
I also don't trust the Bears, No.
00:25:24
Five and two, but that's probably the worst five and two team I've ever seen.
00:25:28
They're not good.
00:25:29
I would like again.
00:25:31
It's another team that is in that you know, that weird stage of were It's not that we're rebuilding.
00:25:38
It's like we're not exactly at the point where we have to rebuild, but we're not a surefire vendor, so they're kind of in that in between.
00:25:46
I mean, Atlanta's in that group, uh, Chicago, Carolina's rebuilding Carolina building.
00:25:55
So yeah, weird.
00:25:59
I mean, Alan Robinson, they should dangle him for pics like, you know, the first thing.
00:26:04
You don't know who your quarterback is.
00:26:06
Long term. Yeah, Yeah.
00:26:08
They're not gonna have your long term. No.
00:26:12
Yeah.
00:26:13
And that's my big thing.
00:26:14
That's my big thing.
00:26:15
Was like, I understand they're trying to.
00:26:16
Some of these teams are trying to contend.
00:26:17
It's like, but you're not contending and you're not rebuilding Might as well.
00:26:22
And if if you have guys on one of your one of your deal contract years mental, see what value you can get I mean, that's just my thing.
00:26:31
Um I mean, there's no other like notable games.
00:26:35
That was that was there so we could move on to the Ravens.
00:26:38
Steelers? Uh, yeah.
00:26:40
So the things some of the keys are that the rave thing.
00:26:45
Okay, it's gonna be I think it could be one of the line of scrimmage, in my opinion, have the best Russian defense in football.
00:26:51
I mean, that's, you know, unstoppable for force versus in the movable object.
00:26:56
It's the same week.
00:26:57
I mean, then shut down Derrick Henry that he only had 70 yards.
00:27:00
That's right.
00:27:01
And I think the 40 of them came on one drive.
00:27:04
So you're right on.
00:27:05
That s so you take that out.
00:27:07
He basically had 30 yards during the rest of the game.
00:27:09
Yeah, world class.
00:27:11
Right? And I think I was actually, like watching ESPN.
00:27:14
And like, all the stuff, seeing that like this, uh, Steelers often how it works.
00:27:18
The big thing here, I think, is how aggressive can you be at the line of scrimmage for the corner.
00:27:23
So, like, if you can just, uh, slow down like Clay Poole and Schmidt, Smith, Schuster and, um in Washington And do you have to Johnson like those guys if Marcus Peters, if, uh, Jimmy Smiths, like Humphreys, if they could just on Jammeh just a little bit.
00:27:44
I think that's that's the best change for them win because I don't think that Steelers necessarily have big play options.
00:27:50
They don't necessarily. I don't And you can say this.
00:27:52
Um, on if they want A If you could slow down, there's a short to mid game.
00:28:01
If, um that will In fact, they're deep passing game.
00:28:06
Is that true? I mean, they go deep a times, then we'll air it out, you know, to Claypool Washington.
00:28:13
But, I mean, I do agree.
00:28:14
I mean, they do, ah, lot of short routes, you know, a lot of medium routes.
00:28:19
But you know, the big thing is that this dealers, it's almost been like every week it's a new receiver, kind of coming out.
00:28:25
You know, you saw.
00:28:26
After a few bad week, Schuster last week had nine catches for almost 100 yards, and that's why he torched Tennessee all game.
00:28:33
You know, before that it's Chase Claypool.
00:28:35
You know, Dante Johnson came back last week.
00:28:37
He was also really good after a few weeks off, and then he also was hurt so they can beat you in a number of ways.
00:28:43
It's not all the receivers have to be producing every week.
00:28:47
It's more mainly one person, but and they could just spread it out where they want me.
00:28:51
Eric Ebron has been playing better.
00:28:54
They could get Vance involved.
00:28:55
I know he doesn't catch a lot of passes as they used to, but they could get him involving.
00:28:59
Connor has been really good.
00:29:01
Um, I think this season, like I've said, when he's healthy, he's a top 10 all purpose back.
00:29:06
He can come out of the backfield, catch the ball.
00:29:08
So you know that something's gonna be a big key for the Ravens.
00:29:10
Is how they stopped Connor coming out.
00:29:14
But you know, the offensive line.
00:29:16
The defensive line of the Ravens that that's going to be.
00:29:19
That's gonna be awesome to see.
00:29:20
You know the Castros back.
00:29:21
Um, of course you have got You have Mega Quake coming on the defensive line with Clay Escape twice.
00:29:26
Campbell, Brandon Williams, Derek Wolfe.
00:29:29
I mean, uh, Brandon Williams is not pass rusher.
00:29:33
He's just a guy that clogs the middle of the defense so that Campbell and Wolf can rush the passer.
00:29:40
So smell smash mouth football.
00:29:42
I mean, yeah, I know people like the dog on building a waiver for some stuff that I'm not going to get into on this episode, right? He's been really good this season.
00:29:50
They've had a couple of you know, dots in the rookie, okay, For what? He's not taking counties has fit right in to Castro's to Castro policies policy.
00:30:00
Um, you know, they've kept then this is I think it would be their biggest test to keep them on their feet.
00:30:05
And so, I think, only exactly three times this season in six teams, he's almost never hit.
00:30:11
So, um yeah, but I just don't know.
00:30:15
When I look at this game, I kind of see a loss.
00:30:18
I've always I've never feel comfortable going into Baltimore.
00:30:20
Meaning they don't have a few times.
00:30:22
And they did it a couple years ago.
00:30:23
But, you know, I've had this as an L on the schedule for a while.
00:30:27
I just don't think they win this game.
00:30:29
Yeah, Yeah, I think the biggest thing here.
00:30:32
No, I'm not seeing any break breaking news.
00:30:35
There's there's nothing.
00:30:36
There's no news here.
00:30:37
But the big thing here, I think, is, um is which team could be more physical on? I think that the line for this game, um, the line for this game is like Ravens by 4.5.
00:30:50
I don't know why it's that high.
00:30:51
I think it would be like if we'll go our last.
00:30:54
Um, So the big thing I think for the Ravens is can they establish the run game is gonna be tough, but I think with, um, I'm sorry, the better ways can they establish the outside outside game like outside runs? Because that's the big one.
00:31:09
You're you're not going to run it up the middle on this dealers.
00:31:11
It's a group effort with how they defense is.
00:31:14
I mean, you leave what? And do pre unblock.
00:31:17
They're just gonna stop you every time.
00:31:19
And so you.
00:31:20
Then you have to it in Hayward right there, right? It's Williams's.
00:31:23
He's probably I This might be a biased talk right now, but he's probably one of the five best one peer run stoppers inside line.
00:31:30
Yeah, I can't think of other than like, Aaron, Donald and some of these other guys, but, like, I can't think of many players are better, but yeah, what they do. But go ahead.
00:31:40
Yeah, I know, but like, I think so.
00:31:41
Basically, I think the outside of numbers it's gonna be a big key, though there as well.
00:31:45
So I think the runs are gonna be big JK looks like Mark Ingram may or may not play so decades.
00:31:53
So it's I think it's this could be J.
00:31:55
K.
00:31:56
Dobbins breakout game, especially if they try to do stretch runs.
00:31:59
Um, I think guts that words is gonna struggle in this game because he's, um and then just a still has to really hasn't been used much.
00:32:08
I would love to see.
00:32:09
And I think the key is anything.
00:32:12
That's why I said the key.
00:32:13
And that's why those come going out going at the key is that marquees Brown obviously, um, like you two corners sort of Steelers aren't the greatest, so I think heading those a couple shots downfield would be great.
00:32:25
But I think Devin Duvernay and Dobbins Air gonna be big because with Duvernay, they've been running a lot of jet sweeps with with him, and he's a guy that that could kind of, like stretch to the defense horizontally.
00:32:40
You got You have Dobbins who's just if you, if anyone listening who went to Ohio State knows how good Dobbins has been the last two or three years, I mean, it's gonna definitely like that.
00:32:50
Here's the one thing I will say where the Steelers who have an advantage and I think I texted you.
00:32:55
This.
00:32:56
The Ravens only have one receiver who is over 6 ft tall, and we're not counting debts because he's not on the active roster yet.
00:33:02
But that one receivers Miles Boykin and he hasn't done.
00:33:05
He has done absolutely nothing.
00:33:07
Yeah, I mean, look here if, like here, saying I would I know that the Cowboys don't want to trade Michael Gallup.
00:33:16
Andi, I know he has two years on a deal on his cap hit.
00:33:19
It's like 900,000.
00:33:21
So it's like you were really gonna pay, like, 400,000.
00:33:26
But I would honestly package RG three.
00:33:29
And Boykin, uh, perhaps you maybe even Boykin in a in a trade for a guy like Gallup Forgot Golladay Or or, I think, a text to do this.
00:33:40
Another ***.
00:33:41
So I said it was like they apparently when, um when they're talking and gawk would they were actually talking to the Vikings about dealing and Earth Junior, That was like, If, if so, I mean, I would I wouldn't mind.
00:33:54
It feels like a for dealing.
00:33:56
I would definitely give up Miles Boykin and a draft pick for dealing.
00:34:00
But I think with Miles Boykin this this is its last year to prove that he, uh, he could be wide receiver.
00:34:06
Because I think what if he struggles? I think that and you don't trade him.
00:34:11
I think that the Ravens will probably tell him gain about 15 more pounds and will use you as a tight end.
00:34:17
Like that's where I think that's what he might.
00:34:20
What? They might have him.
00:34:21
Dio.
00:34:22
So, um, I think he is depending on what he might be a candidate for a position change.
00:34:29
So I think that's the key there.
00:34:30
Um, and the reason I bring it up because I think the Steelers can be a little more physical and jam in Hollywood, Brown or Willie's need.
00:34:39
So I think you guys do you have the event and that's Duvernay or Dobbins Or do those outside runs? Um, that might soften up the Steelers defense at that point, so yeah, yeah, and then I think now we could move.
00:34:57
Um, is there anything else you wanna cover about dealers? You see how the Ravens past game is? Um, Nelson's been a lot better since those last few games paid and has been picked on a bit, though, So that's gonna interesting.
00:35:10
Mike Helton is not going to play.
00:35:12
That's a A it's He hasn't been practicing this week.
00:35:16
He has a bum shoulder.
00:35:18
But Cam Sutton played really good last week.
00:35:20
He should have had an interception, so I mean, it's not as big of a downgrade People make it out to be.
00:35:25
But I mean, the loss of Mike Health, especially in the run game, is very felt.
00:35:30
Paul Edmonds has also been pretty good this year.
00:35:33
This has actually been his coming out party.
00:35:35
Last week was probably his best game as an NFL safety, so I would expect, honestly, Edmonds to be on Mark Andrews for a lot of the game.
00:35:44
That's going to be a very intriguing matchup.
00:35:46
They have not let the tight end beat them basically at all this season.
00:35:49
I mean, no offended good, but that was it.
00:35:51
So that's gonna be a big matchup to watch and yeah, I mean, I think I'm probably gonna go Ravens by three, and I think this dealers will take them in Pittsburgh.
00:35:58
But, you know, this is it's gonna be close to the best rivalry in football.
00:36:02
And yeah, I'm excited too.
00:36:05
Yeah, I'm with you.
00:36:06
I think that whoever wins will win by, like, a field goal or less.
00:36:10
Eso basically just get on the Steelers and negative 4.
00:36:13
5 on Did some of these other games.
00:36:16
I mean, uh, you have I mean, the jets just look, Mr Ball at this point.
00:36:22
Yeah, that's the weekly occur.
00:36:25
Inspire Adam Gates already.
00:36:27
Oh, you did you Did you see that story about Trevor Lawrence? Like he's, like, a couple weeks ago.
00:36:31
He said a few weeks ago.
00:36:32
He said, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna graduate in December, and I'm gonna going to declare for the draft.
00:36:36
And he was asked about that question asked about the claim for a draft because it was like, it seems like the Jets were gonna have to number one, taking like, Yeah, I'll think about it pretty much.
00:36:47
And now he's sadly has Covic.
00:36:49
So that's going to be interesting, but yeah.
00:36:53
Do you wanna go to the preview? The video game? Yeah.
00:36:57
Well, let's actually no weaken. Yeah.
00:36:59
I mean, yeah.
00:37:00
So? Well, first of all, before we preview the game we did get to commit this week.
00:37:02
Yes, that's true.
00:37:04
That was a big yeah, linebacker, which is a linebacker.
00:37:07
Tight end way.
00:37:09
Don't know where he's gonna play, but I'm definitely excited to see him, Um, in there, um, we definitely We lost to Wake Forest.
00:37:17
I think that was every year.
00:37:19
We always have one of those.
00:37:20
Like going back since 2005.
00:37:23
Man.
00:37:24
People.
00:37:25
Oh, this is like the 20 thing.
00:37:26
No, I've been moving for this program for 15 years.
00:37:28
They do this crap every year.
00:37:30
They beat Ohio State in 2014.
00:37:32
They come back a week later against TCU.
00:37:34
They lose to them at home.
00:37:35
That's a **** thing.
00:37:36
It like it was That was under a front.
00:37:38
So will be this every single year.
00:37:41
It's not surprised they were in that game until the end.
00:37:46
Offensively, they stunk The defense.
00:37:47
I really I can criticize defense at the start, but in the second half, they gave up what man? Like probably 37 points or something like that.
00:37:57
Criticize the defense for that.
00:37:59
They kept them in the game.
00:38:01
Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I agree.
00:38:02
I mean, that's why um I think that the big thing for me is, and I'll keep saying it until it's not true.
00:38:10
You can't rely on two players on the offense, two or three players on the offense.
00:38:15
You need 3 to 5.
00:38:17
And I think that Ah, lot of people wanted to just keep feeding of all the Khalil Herbert over and over and over again.
00:38:23
But the problem is, we need to.
00:38:25
We need to get Blackshear involved in the game.
00:38:27
We need Turner to get involved in game.
00:38:28
We need Robinson, get involved in the game and the problem.
00:38:31
And it's not like you can just do that in practice because you need game time experience and that's my biggest thing.
00:38:38
And I know it slows down the offense and I know it makes fans.
00:38:42
Let's more frustrated, but it's something that needs to happen now.
00:38:46
Also, to be fair, apparently, Blackshear had some like he wasn't able to practice as much.
00:38:50
Now you're seeing more and more of him, which is good, but against Louisville, especially a team like Louisville who is very fast, who can score points in a hurry, who can Um who is like I said very fast on offense and defense.
00:39:03
You need a team like that.
00:39:05
You need to be able to rely on a bunch of other people in like trade to, like, get not just have those 588 to 10 minute drive.
00:39:13
But if you need to score within five plays or less, score was in those one or two minute drives.
00:39:19
So that's what you need to do.
00:39:21
And you need like, that's what, Um, and this game might turn out to be a Syria.
00:39:25
I don't know about you, but I don't know what what do you think that this game could turn out to be a serious of two minute drives? Yeah, I mean, it potentially could be, you know, again, last week I had problems with Brad Core Nelson's play calling again.
00:39:37
Just, you know, they was one of the first drives.
00:39:39
The beginning. They get down to the four yard line.
00:39:41
You're calling a jet sleep to the short side of the field like that.
00:39:44
That's not you can't call that, and then, like towards the late stages of the game, where it's a two possession game, five minutes to go, you're establishing the run.
00:39:51
It's like you got to go up tempo here.
00:39:53
It's like they've, like, never practiced before like that.
00:39:56
I know I criticize him a lot, but, you know, until he keeps stops doing it, I'm just gonna continue to criticize the offensive coordinator just because he's not good at his job.
00:40:05
And I think hooker and clubber have been able to hide Ah, lot of that this season and, you know, handing his coming off his worst game has called for VT quarterback.
00:40:15
So I would assume he would be much better in this game.
00:40:17
I think they could definitely win this game.
00:40:20
Coming him is back this week for Louisville, Right? Uh, I think he is coming.
00:40:25
Him their quarterback? Yeah.
00:40:26
Yeah, he was in there last week.
00:40:28
Yeah.
00:40:29
So it's gonna be a tough game. They're going to score.
00:40:31
But, you know, we'll see.
00:40:33
You know, you gotta win this game.
00:40:34
You got Miami coming up next week.
00:40:35
Elaine, you know you have liberty.
00:40:38
Oh, no, you're right, Liberty.
00:40:39
That's right. Liberty is first rank.
00:40:41
But, I mean, liberty really hasn't.
00:40:44
Yeah, I know.
00:40:45
Like No, it's on Louisville Liberty, Miami pit.
00:40:49
Uh, Clemson, U V.
00:40:51
I think that's all winnable.
00:40:53
games.
00:40:54
Except for the Clemson won.
00:40:55
We'll see how they finish off this year.
00:40:57
Yeah, and in just a few more things Here, uh, it is now official.
00:41:03
Steve Cohen is the owner.
00:41:05
Mayor Bill de Blasio did approve the sale.
00:41:08
So he is now officially the He is the owner.
00:41:12
Um, also for Orioles fans out there.
00:41:14
The Orioles did claim you'll more Sanchez from the White Sox.
00:41:19
This is only significant because Hansen Alberto are the guy we have currently for second base.
00:41:24
He is, um he's in his second our integration.
00:41:29
And given the fact that we were talking about how money could be tight, that be a sign of him being traded.
00:41:35
We don't know whether Glacier is gonna be the shortstop if they take his option, and then they flip him.
00:41:44
Um, yeah.
00:41:46
If they flip, if they flip him for prospects.
00:41:48
So I mean, there is, uh, my brother just sent me.
00:41:53
My brother sent me text and just, uh, sometime team t mobile or something.
00:41:57
So if I'm distracted a little bit, then no, but yeah.
00:42:01
So, like, that's kind of where I am there.
00:42:03
Um, I also think that, like going back Thio.
00:42:07
Um, the e I think the Ronnie Stanley signing just shows the Ravens are just They're one of the better ge Better front office in the league because they had, um, Ronnie Stanley in 2016 in the first round.
00:42:21
He waas hold on one second, like I said.
00:42:26
Okay, So, t Mobile Tuesday.
00:42:27
Okay.
00:42:28
God, yeah, I apologize. It does.
00:42:30
My brother sent me a text saying that, um, you know, a T mobile or something, and there's a code that will sense Let me just quickly send it.
00:42:37
But yeah.
00:42:39
Was there anything that anything else that you wanted to bring? Uh, okay, Yeah.
00:42:44
He doesn't bring up for you for about really? Did.
00:42:48
From college football last week.
00:42:50
Loved the decision by Indiana to go for the win there.
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I don't think coaches do that enough.
00:42:55
You know, I think that be more aggressive.
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Yeah, like I mean, and I think it also like for ****ytics wise to like go.
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You want to be a top 10 team, I you tryto win it there and then try to play for the toy or whatever the **** it is.
00:43:11
Go for the win.
00:43:12
I mean, remember for the A C C championship game for Tech one day, even said if they had scored with that broad Evans drive they were gonna win for the wind with less than 30 seconds to go, they were going to go to meet them.
00:43:22
So I mean, I'm glad Indiana do it.
00:43:25
It worked out.
00:43:26
You know, it's gonna be a controversial call for years to come.
00:43:28
Oh, yeah, it's all looked like, you know, uh, remainder up.
00:43:32
But it's also funny with ****ytics, like with ****ytical based decision making.
00:43:36
People don't complain when it works, but yeah, it's like, Oh, yeah, like the Dodgers won.
00:43:42
It's like See, it's a win against ****ytics.
00:43:44
Like Dodgers use ****ytics as much as any other people.
00:43:49
Of course, they use it.
00:43:51
They got lucky back stick.
00:43:53
They use the bullpen game in Game six.
00:43:56
Yeah, and in game, game two to I mean yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:44:02
I mean the ray, of course, like but like the race still over Reliance and we can have a debate on the over reliance of ****ytics but still in the race because of ****ytics.
00:44:13
There were two wins away because they use it in their decision making.
00:44:16
And they have a low payroll just for obvious reasons.
00:44:19
But yeah, we gotta dio e I still as a still has an Orioles fan would not mind basing our rebuild off Tampa Bay because clearly what they're doing is a good idea.
00:44:32
Um uh, what else? You and also with the Ronnie Stanley thing? Um, it probably also attract attention.
00:44:42
Probably also means that Orlando Brown is not going to be resigned, because right now we have to sign Lemar.
00:44:49
We gotta sign.
00:44:50
Um, Mark Andrews.
00:44:52
We gotta sign Janek.
00:44:53
We gotta sign Jew dogs gone.
00:44:56
We're not finding him and and then we go outside Orlando.
00:44:59
But then, even after that, Hollywood's contracts would be up soon after those guys get their contracts, or however, many of them get contracts, and then Patrick Queen would would be due up.
00:45:10
So it seems like Orlando Brown might be theon man out in that situation and sucks because his dad played for the Ravens.
00:45:19
Um, it's a nice story, but he's the one guy I could see them trading just gets traffics and all this other stuff, but yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:45:28
I mean, uh, nothing, nothing else.
00:45:31
I mean, I'm checking Twitter, see if there's any, like trades and stuff like that.
00:45:34
But no, there really happening with a bunch of, like, fake trades.
00:45:38
Which is which is a noise.
00:45:39
Nothing that's going on right now.
00:45:42
Just Mets fans being happy about Steve Cohen.
00:45:45
Oh, yeah, and and And obviously they're going to spend the money now like that's the That's the thing that yeah, no.
00:45:55
Yeah, no problem there.
00:45:56
But yeah, I mean, I think that that's also that's all for today's episode of Sports Talk, Um, sports talk central.
00:46:05
Um, so eso Justin s O if you keep, uh, this was the first time you saw one of episodes.
00:46:14
We thank you for doing truth.
00:46:16
And listen, we do have a bunch of our, um, other episodes that are on my page or 100 100 page and then But don't worry, we'll we'll tweet out the link to this episode.
00:46:27
You could go through over there if your viewer thank you for being repeat viewer.
00:46:31
And then we'll see you again next week around the same time. Perfect.
00:46:36
I'll see you next week, all right? Right.
00:46:39
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The Baltimore Ravens are not messing around with their contract-year players. Just weeks after signing CB Marlon Humphrey to a big-money extension, the Ravens have now moved on to left tackle Ronnie Stanley, who reportedly just put pen to paper on a massive five-year extension worth a whopping $112.9 million. This report comes via NFL.com’s […]

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Yeah. Hi.
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Welcome to the newest episode Sports Central.
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I'm a deep mood.
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I'm here with my co host, Hunter Ho Days, and we're gonna talk about LP.
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We're gonna talk about the world.
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Siri's some of them recent news, uh, coaching decisions, some Mets news about the ownership.
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And then we're gonna talk about NFL NFL news.
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When we're going to preview the Steelers game, we're going on.
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And then we're gonna talk about last week of Virginia Tech game against wait for its last week on our we're gonna preview the Louisville game.
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So let's first start some brief thoughts on the world Siri's Normally I would you would start.
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Well, let me first say a few things on my end.
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Um, I thought it was a good world.
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Siri's It was good to see a like a team breaking 30 years.
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Uh, drought.
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The only thing I would say about the World Series that bothered me.
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Waas, the anti ****ytics idiots came in full force because yeah, because for me, my biggest issue is ****ytics.
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It's important.
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It's without it.
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Your team is nothing in business.
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You would be bankrupt if you didn't use data based decision making.
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But I also do think the team's overuse it and I thought about it last couple of days, and then I don't know if you thought about in this context.
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But when When businesses use ****ytics, they using Maurin indicators and, um, yeah, indicators and projection.
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So you're basically imagine you have, like, a box, right? And you're just putting the data into a context of situation is like a box.
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So in that, in that particular situation it would work.
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What was game time decision making, which is what the issue is now? It's not necessarily, um, contracts and everything else.
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It's situational probability.
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So in other words, you're giving information.
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But one situation is different, and then it's pretty much you can do Action A or Action be.
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And depending on whatever action you dio, you enter a different situation and then someone as you make more choices, the situation consistently changes.
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So my biggest issue with like the ****ytics is T in sports teams have started.
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Teams have have try to use the same form or the same applied use of ****ytics in team building.
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Then they wouldn't game time decision making, but what they should do is they should understand that the basis of the basis of both of these situations are different from each other, so they still have to read just how they do it.
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And that's where the eye test, how much did the eye test come into play, and that's where everything else should come into play.
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So I think I texted you about this.
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What I would have done in that situation if I was Kevin Cash was I would not have brought in Nick and I would not have warmed up Nick Anderson, who gave up runs in six office last seven appearances, and I know how good he was.
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I know he's good regulars, even.
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But bringing a guy like Diego Castillo or Pete Fairbanks or sluggers or any of any like reliever, that is good at that point in time.
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That was good and hasn't been used much.
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That's what I would have done and I would have done a battered by batter approach, knowing that was a one notes in game and what are your thoughts on that decision? I wish they would have kept Snell in.
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He was pitching really good.
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I mean, his pitch count wasn't even high, you know? And that's gonna be a decision.
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That he's probably gonna be kicking himself over For what? The rest of his life? The rest of his man.
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Uh, it was the wrong.
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He even admitted after the game, you know, I have to live with it.
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It would belong to stick him like a decision of the time.
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It turned out bad.
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I mean, honestly, I think their best option there was to keep Snell in.
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He was giving your team the best chance to win.
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If you want to bring in the bullpen guy, you know, bring in someone like you said it has not given up a bunch of runs, you know, like you said, like, six out of this last seven innings or something like and you know, what about in a couple other guys that were pitching better? But, you know, I still think their best bet would have had to leave still in the game.
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You know, I just think I like ****ytics a lot.
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In any sport, they have 100% have their place and people that are against ****ytics.
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I think they're just a bunch of morons.
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um, in the sports world, those people are just dinosaurs.
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They still live in the 19 eighties or whatever, but I mean, I think at that point, he was too reliant on ****ytics.
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I don't think you should be too reliant on them.
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And I think at that point, he should have just trusted what he was seeing and said, You know what? I'm gonna keep my star out there, and if it bites me in the ass, it bites me in the ass.
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So I think you should have finished the inning.
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And then if you get to the next inning, you assess their Yeah, I think we both agree on, like, using the eye test.
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He should have been put mawr.
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I think my main take away was that I would have been a little more cautious, and I would have micromanage knowing there knowing no, the one run game.
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And so, yeah, so, like, I would have said Like Like I said, You think you said you would have given the chance to finish the inning? I would have said, um given let him go batter by batter.
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So, like if the Mookie Betts at bat was like, even if it was, like a fly out fireball, Um, to the right fielder, if it looks like an eight pitch at bat, Um, chances are Cory Seager, who won the M V.
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P the third time through the order, he would've probably given them the lead like there's a chance.
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So I would have at the first sign of trouble, I would I would have been a little overcautious at that point, but yeah, I absolutely would have given him the chance.
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Thio have them be, um, go pitch to at least one batter, at least one batter and then take it.
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Battered by batter. Almost.
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Micro man.
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Almost. Mike.
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I would have almost micromanaged that situation, but yeah, I think we both agree on they picked they brought in the wrong cash, brought in tow, brought in the wrong reliever, and that Snell should have at least been given the chance now where he would have been solid.
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We don't know.
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Like, who knows? Like maybe Snell gets one more chance.
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One more batter and Mookie Betts hits a home run like you still have that same situation.
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You're still in the same situation live with Yeah, Yeah, I use the eye test more in that situation by just going based off numbers with yeah, and then and like I said and and like I said, like, ****ytics, it zahau you use it not well, as when you it's it's not the fact you're using.
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It's how you use.
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It's like I said, Team building, Team Construction.
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That's the basic form of it.
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And that's when ****ytics are best used because money ball that was used as a survival technique with Houston Dodgers like the early 2000 that was more used for, like a projection based scouting report.
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But now we're talking about situational probability, and we have to readjust our thinking so we can use it.
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We can use ****ytics, but we have to readjust our thinking in that situation.
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So that's my thoughts on that.
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But there were also other news that came into play here.
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So we're gonna talk about this quick thoughts where your thoughts on MLB, the owners approving to sail to Steve Cohen, Mets fans were happy.
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So, you know, as long as they're happy.
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Yeah, they hated the Wilpons.
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I mean, the will ponder hated.
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I think everyone in New York.
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So, um, yeah, we'll see what he how much he wants to spend for the Mets.
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I think that's the big question.
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How much money? What? Yeah, I heard the first thing.
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I kind of go back to a previous discussion like he wants to advance the Mets ****ytic department.
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Which makes sense, given that Steve Cohen came comes from a business background.
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And that's maybe how he made his billions of dollars.
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Um, so be really interesting.
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I think that Andi think, Well, we'll talk about this when we get Thio eight to A J. Hinch story.
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Um, they came to player.
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But first, let's bring up the new.
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The fact that the White Sox and the Tigers now have new managers toe White so and it looks like they went completely opposite directions.
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The White Sox got telling LaRussa out of retirement to manage them on and on, and then the Tigers got a J.
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Hinch.
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So what were your thoughts on both of those hirings going through? So that was a surprise.
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I thought he was retired for good.
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The White Sox got a pretty good I think the White Sox are gonna be good soon.
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Yeah, I was pretty good.
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You don't like one of the best farm systems in the league? Yeah.
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I mean, they're they're gonna be on the way out of this.
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Might be a hot take.
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I don't think a J.
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Hinch shooting managing this season.
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I think he should honestly still be suspended for what happened.
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But, I mean, I don't think a lot of Tigers fans I'm being used to see how they react to this.
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See how their positive it's positive.
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Yeah, they kind of like, Yeah, it's fine.
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But it's a giant and terrifying.
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Yeah, no.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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It might be a hot take.
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I just I think he should still be banned for at least another season.
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That's just my take on that.
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I don't know how you feel about it.
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Do you think he should be allowed to manage this season after that suspension? I think it's a least a two year suspension, but I would also say this.
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Um, if I waas, I would I would I think that the White Sox were in a better position for a J.
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Hinch because let me explain because, um, first of all, for managers and we could bring up the managers versus players saying managers, I think that try to bring up someone else other than a.
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J.
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Hinch keeping him keep him in mind.
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But try to see there's like a minor league manager in every store or something like that.
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But my other issue, my other thing with managers, is no where your team is.
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So like, if you look at the Orioles, um, if you look at the Orioles, they are a very They are a rebuilding team.
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So if let's say hypothetically tomorrow, Brandon High, just not the manager anymore.
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They're still rebuilding team.
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And I don't necessarily want a guy who you would hire in a wind now situation.
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I want a guy like a minor league manager or a guy who has who's in player development now, Yeah, with the Tigers.
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Yeah, but here's what I'll say, though, about the Tigers.
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A.
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J.
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Hinch was there when the Astros were rebuilding to that point where there were a playoff team so and they have some great pitching prospects, so I e.
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I can see a J.
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Hinch now Granted, we don't know the Astros pitching Waas because of Hinche or or because of Brent Strong.
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They're pitching coach, and we don't know what the The Tigers ****ytic department.
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So a lot of people are saying it was a great hire for the Tigers because look what look what hint was able to do with the pitching.
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But then you have to consider they're not gonna bring.
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Tigers aren't bringing in Brett Brett strong, and they're not.
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They don't necessarily have the ****ytics department that Houston has, so I don't know whether that's a good move.
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I like I said, I would rather see them.
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I'll rather seeing Hinch managed the White Sox because I feel like the White Sox, like you said, are closer to contention.
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So that's what I so I would have done that.
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And if I waas um, the Tigers, I would have gone with, like someone who was like a minor league manager who was like a pitching coach because other than the guy they picked a number one in this year's draft, uh, Spencer Rhetorical, saying I think that was his name.
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Most of their strength and their farm system is their pitching, so they need someone who can relate to younger players more and someone who can, Who has experienced, like, who knows, pitching? That's why I would say so.
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I think both of situations were a little, um they didn't pick the right manager per se.
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So that's my thoughts on it.
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Antonio LaRussa.
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I understand.
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White Sox like fans were saying, Well, at least Tony LaRussa it's like, wasn't involved in the science stealing scandal.
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What the problem.
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But the problem is he's a Tony Loose made some political political comments.
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It might not be good.
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He's anti let the kids play.
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Um, yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah.
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And not only that when the Astros thing came out, I think there was a player that played either with LaRussa in the eighties or against, and he said that Oh, no, no.
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Like the, um, Tony LaRussa is, um, managed teams how to sign stealing scheme in the eighties.
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And you could you could find this out.
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So it's sort of like, Oh, we're not.
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It's like at least Tony LaRussa wasn't involved in the science stealing scheme.
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Look it up, he First of all, he's had a ton of problems.
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I don't know if Tim Anderson would want to be on the White Sox anymore, and And he has a sign stealing.
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He was involved.
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He's been reportedly involved in the sign stealing scheme.
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It was just in the eighties, and not now.
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So if that one baffles me a little bit, yeah, I will be curious to see how they are A one more baseball thing before we do get to the NFL.
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Justin Turner is an idiot for what he did.
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That's really all I'm going to say about that.
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That's just a stupid thing.
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But he did, I think.
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Oh, yeah, Absolutely.
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That was one of the dumbest things in the world.
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And then way come out, especially after they tell, you know, I don't care if you put a mask back on.
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You probably just infected your whole team.
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So Oh, and then also the Tampa Tampa Bay Potentially as well.
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So that's the other issue as well.
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Um, yeah.
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And the other thing is, it isn't something quick.
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I know we kind of talked about it last week as well, and that that was that with a J.
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Hinch coming back one.
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And I think Alex Cora is definitely coming back to the Red Sox, but second, Yeah, second thing is the player.
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So I know there was an article that came out that George Springer would didn't.
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Doesn't necessarily want to be with Houston.
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And then Houston, I know it's not the biggest market.
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So do you think that George Springer is gonna have as robust of a market as people will pay for them? I mean, they they're a big bat.
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They always get big contract.
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You know, with the coronavirus.
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You want a so much as they normally would for hitters.
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I mean, you're not gonna probably see a $300 million contract being handed out to anyone.
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Hell, I mean, 200.
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I don't even know about that.
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So I think that you're gonna be a little more cautious when it comes to long term.
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Was with big bats or pictures, too.
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Oh, yes.
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Speaking of cost, speaking of caught, you know, speaking of cost, the rays also nontendered, um, not only Mike Zunino, but Charlie Morton.
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But granted, it's also the rays, so they don't necessarily have the biggest mark biggest market.
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So the question.
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But then they also said they're going to attempt to get Charlie Morgan on a cheaper deal.
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So why? So he's s so he might be a free agent.
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So, I mean, that just tells you that, like the state of the state of things like Cult Wong's apparently free agent from the Cardinals.
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I know the national nontendered.
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Four guys, I including.
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Yeah.
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I mean, a lot of teams are going to, like, save money.
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And I think this was I think this is why this was smart.
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The Orioles traded way Givens, and I think they traded with maybe a couple other guys that they may have had to pay money to to at least they get back some decent prospects.
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E Yeah, so, yeah, so that let's move on Thio football.
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Was there anything in the Thursday night yesterday? Yesterday's game that recall your I don't Honestly, man, I didn't really watch the game.
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I saw Julio Jones got me about 20 fantasy points, which was nice.
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He dropped touchdown, though, because you know, the Falcons, I think they got the win.
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They finally another with.
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But, you know, they didn't another bad way lose, especially after last week at the buzzer beater from Matt Stafford.
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It's just like oh Yeah, I don't think they try.
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I think that on the Falcons, they tried to knock score, but apparently the momentum carried.
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You think because they had no time outs left, they could have, just if they didn't have scored there, they could have just handed the ball off, gone down like two times called time out and kick the field goal.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that was awful by the Falcons that last week.
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I couldn't believe they get that they had that game.
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All you need to do is just run around the field and call town Hall.
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Yeah, I know.
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Yeah, I see it.
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No, but for me, it's like it's just weird that and I don't know what your thoughts do.
00:16:50
You think that they know that Julio and Matt Ryan have the dead cat money? But do you think that they should consider trading them? I don't think e probably to untouchables on the Falcons.
00:17:02
Maybe you, but I'm not really sure if they I think that would also potentially trade him too.
00:17:08
Yeah, No, I agree.
00:17:10
I mean, sometimes I think that depending on their situation, I mean, maybe you should consider it because, but Then again, those contracts are not especially Matt Ryan's case.
00:17:21
Those contracts are not good contract.
00:17:24
So speaking of contracts, so and if you see the thumbnail, if you see like the picture the Ravens resigned their left tackle Ronnie Stanley to a five year, $98.
00:17:36
75 million deal.
00:17:39
Yeah, I I thought he was.
00:17:40
This was like he was a little underpaid.
00:17:43
I mean, he definitely took a hometown discount here.
00:17:45
Yeah, that was That was a big was a big contract.
00:17:48
He's worth it, though.
00:17:49
He's one of the best tackles on the football.
00:17:51
So you gotta feel bad for Texans, the fans, because because you gave up all those picks for Tunsil.
00:17:59
Tunsil got $22 million and then, ah, guy that a lot of people say is slightly better than Tunsil or I don't know where he would be compared to.
00:18:07
Tunsil was able to be on a winning team for about $19.
00:18:10
75 million so I mean, that's it just shows how bad badly Bill O'Brien was as a man as a GM a coach to you want to get into the game of the week here I mean, let's just talk about some of the other news first and then because thats briefly talk about it.
00:18:34
Um, the Falcons game.
00:18:37
We already talked.
00:18:38
We already talked about the Falcons game.
00:18:41
The cowboys just look bad.
00:18:44
Um, yeah, they look bad.
00:18:46
And honestly, I think that, you know, they look bad.
00:18:49
And look, you know, it's bad when RG three were being upgrade over who you have is a quarterback.
00:18:56
Yeah, but I mean Antonucci as well.
00:18:59
Yeah, no Titans game was, You know, Taylor to have on the Steelers.
00:19:05
Came out with blood in that first half.
00:19:07
They just blew them out of the field.
00:19:09
I mean, they Tennessee could stop.
00:19:10
That was both sides of the older than Tennessee, you know, give them credit, they fight.
00:19:14
This isn't the browns over here who just lay up and die when they see what blow them out.
00:19:18
I mean, the Titans are a good team, though.
00:19:20
I think the Titans got they got a little lucky on a couple drives.
00:19:23
E think with Prince William Should have had an interception.
00:19:26
That's why minka, like, kind of screwed up.
00:19:28
And then, um, there touchdown drive to cut it Thio 2014 7 should have been interception, But second after that just went to crap.
00:19:39
But, you know, I always hate to see a former patriot do something bad, man.
00:19:43
You know, e think someone who tweeted this out it was shades of I gotta find the tweet here.
00:19:51
This happened.
00:19:52
I think, in the 2003 playoffs, I think it was the Titans versus the Steelers.
00:19:56
E need to find where this tweet Israel credit. Hang on.
00:20:00
Who was the kicker? I am so sorry.
00:20:04
I'm really trying to find this guy.
00:20:05
Um shades.
00:20:08
Well, I'm gonna find it, but yeah, Joe Nedney.
00:20:12
So they like this.
00:20:13
I watched the highlight.
00:20:14
This was was right around.
00:20:16
I was becoming a fan.
00:20:17
They kind of roughed into hand.
00:20:18
He flopped it and they would have went to overtime.
00:20:20
And then he kicked the winner to send the Titans to the A F C championship.
00:20:24
So it was like Kosowski missed this one.
00:20:26
So for football justices, But, you know, I still think this is now a Super Bowl contender.
00:20:31
I'm fully on board with it.
00:20:33
Uh, this is one of the three best teams in the conference.
00:20:37
Yeah, if they want to get to the Super Bowl, they got to get the one seed.
00:20:42
That's that's the reality.
00:20:43
I don't trust them going to Kansas City.
00:20:45
They gotta have McComb.
00:20:46
Mahomes, come in Pittsburgh.
00:20:47
I think the Steelers can beat them in Pittsburgh.
00:20:50
They're just a play better at home.
00:20:52
They're more comfortable.
00:20:53
They're not for obvious reasons.
00:20:55
But, I mean, you look at this.
00:20:56
You were scheduled after this week.
00:20:58
You have.
00:20:59
You have the cowboys in Dallas.
00:21:01
You beating up on Andy Dalton for 10 years.
00:21:04
Then you have the Bengals come to town.
00:21:06
I mean, you're potentially if you if you win this game, that could be nine, and you're basically you're walked into the playoffs.
00:21:12
At that point, they're locked into the playoffs already.
00:21:15
Because we are, unless you like, lose out or something like that, or you lose, like, six of your next eight games.
00:21:22
You know, a lot of Josh McDaniels did that, I think in 2010 with the Broncos or something, but yeah, I mean, and then you still have Jacksonville. You of Indianapolis.
00:21:30
I mean, you're you're three toughest games left.
00:21:33
Are you guys twice? And the bills I mean, the Steelers can easily go 13 and three this season.
00:21:39
That's not out of the realm of possibility.
00:21:41
It could potentially be even better with how much of a joke their schedule is.
00:21:44
But, you know, we go one week at a time, and this is going to be a dogfight.
00:21:47
But, you know, it was fun to watch that game against the Titans.
00:21:50
I think they're, you know, the top four teams.
00:21:53
I mean, we all know the top four teams in this conference.
00:21:55
It's Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, Titans.
00:21:58
Yeah, I mean, Oh, yeah, I agree, because I didn't even begin.
00:22:01
I think when we're doing our season preview, I said like, um bills.
00:22:05
No, no, I said it was chiefs and Ravens, and then the next group of like four or five was like Pittsburgh, New England, Buffalo, Tennessee.
00:22:14
And then, um, either Indianapolis.
00:22:16
And then maybe Houston.
00:22:18
And and And? And then you have Cleveland.
00:22:20
Some of those other teams.
00:22:21
Yeah, but what do you What do you make of the Patriots? You know, Cam is just really Oh, and apparently were rumors about them.
00:22:30
They might do a fire sale.
00:22:31
I don't know how interest other than Gilmore.
00:22:33
I don't know how interested you would be in those pieces.
00:22:36
I mean, maybe you could get something of value for Edelman, but this is, you know, I mean, Patriot fans are gonna be mad.
00:22:42
It's like, you know what? Welcome to how everyone else's feel the last 20 years.
00:22:45
You can stink for one year.
00:22:47
Yeah.
00:22:48
Oh, no.
00:22:49
I think that Cam had one, too.
00:22:52
I think he had the M v P year.
00:22:53
And then he had, you know, he had, like, two.
00:22:56
Yeah, a couple of good games this year.
00:22:57
But the camp is not yet.
00:22:59
Cam, he I think he I think he most of his career is like, sub 60% accuracy, accuracy percentage.
00:23:07
That's not that's not gonna help you long term.
00:23:11
So I don't think he can.
00:23:13
I don't think he can be a franchise quarterback.
00:23:15
I think that if this year showing us anything he has, like, two or three years left, sadly in his career, if he continues to play this badly, I don't think the Patriots Yeah, like most at most, he has two or three years.
00:23:27
Yeah.
00:23:28
Yeah.
00:23:29
I mean, I don't know.
00:23:30
I don't doubt that he'll get a job because I think that teams are gonna like looking for younger options and all that other stuff.
00:23:35
And then they might look at Haskins or Donald Donald or heck, even maybe even Rosen or something.
00:23:41
But like, there's no way I I think that if it continues to be trash, then this year is done.
00:23:47
Um, they're basically done, I think this year, Anyway, I don't think what Yeah, because they play Buffalo this week, so if they beat s, so if they lose to Buffalo, they're done five.
00:23:57
I mean, it's hard to come out of that hole.
00:23:59
Um, it's just they're just they're not the same.
00:24:01
I mean, I know ballistics, arguably the greatest coach of all time GM Weiss, Not nearly as good as Belichick the coach.
00:24:09
But, I mean, there's only so much he could dio.
00:24:12
But you know, I'm not gonna pity them because they've yeah, and it also wasn't.
00:24:19
It's also that it's also doesn't look good, especially when you see that Brady's and like Tampa Bay and then they go and get and telling you a brown.
00:24:27
So it's like it doesn't matter.
00:24:28
Like if Kris Godwin's out for a couple of weeks.
00:24:31
Like until like, a B is gonna be there in a week or so and he's gonna basically replace Godwin.
00:24:39
But then when Godwin comes back, it's Godwin.
00:24:41
It brown.
00:24:42
It's, um it's Evans.
00:24:44
It's Cam and braise O J. Howard.
00:24:47
It's for Nat.
00:24:48
It's LaShawn McCoy.
00:24:49
Ah, it's Ronald Jones.
00:24:51
I mean, and they and they got a great defense.
00:24:54
I mean, they were one of the top three teams in the NFC.
00:24:57
How many teams come out of the NFC? I mean, honestly, dude, you can see four teams coming along.
00:25:03
Four teams from the NFC West, I think might get in. That's crazy.
00:25:06
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:25:08
What? Here's what should happen.
00:25:10
All four teams in the NFC West.
00:25:12
If they're really they should go in.
00:25:13
And no teams in the NFC least should go.
00:25:16
Just put the Bears have the Bears win the NFC like it's a e.
00:25:22
I also don't trust the Bears, No.
00:25:24
Five and two, but that's probably the worst five and two team I've ever seen.
00:25:28
They're not good.
00:25:29
I would like again.
00:25:31
It's another team that is in that you know, that weird stage of were It's not that we're rebuilding.
00:25:38
It's like we're not exactly at the point where we have to rebuild, but we're not a surefire vendor, so they're kind of in that in between.
00:25:46
I mean, Atlanta's in that group, uh, Chicago, Carolina's rebuilding Carolina building.
00:25:55
So yeah, weird.
00:25:59
I mean, Alan Robinson, they should dangle him for pics like, you know, the first thing.
00:26:04
You don't know who your quarterback is.
00:26:06
Long term. Yeah, Yeah.
00:26:08
They're not gonna have your long term. No.
00:26:12
Yeah.
00:26:13
And that's my big thing.
00:26:14
That's my big thing.
00:26:15
Was like, I understand they're trying to.
00:26:16
Some of these teams are trying to contend.
00:26:17
It's like, but you're not contending and you're not rebuilding Might as well.
00:26:22
And if if you have guys on one of your one of your deal contract years mental, see what value you can get I mean, that's just my thing.
00:26:31
Um I mean, there's no other like notable games.
00:26:35
That was that was there so we could move on to the Ravens.
00:26:38
Steelers? Uh, yeah.
00:26:40
So the things some of the keys are that the rave thing.
00:26:45
Okay, it's gonna be I think it could be one of the line of scrimmage, in my opinion, have the best Russian defense in football.
00:26:51
I mean, that's, you know, unstoppable for force versus in the movable object.
00:26:56
It's the same week.
00:26:57
I mean, then shut down Derrick Henry that he only had 70 yards.
00:27:00
That's right.
00:27:01
And I think the 40 of them came on one drive.
00:27:04
So you're right on.
00:27:05
That s so you take that out.
00:27:07
He basically had 30 yards during the rest of the game.
00:27:09
Yeah, world class.
00:27:11
Right? And I think I was actually, like watching ESPN.
00:27:14
And like, all the stuff, seeing that like this, uh, Steelers often how it works.
00:27:18
The big thing here, I think, is how aggressive can you be at the line of scrimmage for the corner.
00:27:23
So, like, if you can just, uh, slow down like Clay Poole and Schmidt, Smith, Schuster and, um in Washington And do you have to Johnson like those guys if Marcus Peters, if, uh, Jimmy Smiths, like Humphreys, if they could just on Jammeh just a little bit.
00:27:44
I think that's that's the best change for them win because I don't think that Steelers necessarily have big play options.
00:27:50
They don't necessarily. I don't And you can say this.
00:27:52
Um, on if they want A If you could slow down, there's a short to mid game.
00:28:01
If, um that will In fact, they're deep passing game.
00:28:06
Is that true? I mean, they go deep a times, then we'll air it out, you know, to Claypool Washington.
00:28:13
But, I mean, I do agree.
00:28:14
I mean, they do, ah, lot of short routes, you know, a lot of medium routes.
00:28:19
But you know, the big thing is that this dealers, it's almost been like every week it's a new receiver, kind of coming out.
00:28:25
You know, you saw.
00:28:26
After a few bad week, Schuster last week had nine catches for almost 100 yards, and that's why he torched Tennessee all game.
00:28:33
You know, before that it's Chase Claypool.
00:28:35
You know, Dante Johnson came back last week.
00:28:37
He was also really good after a few weeks off, and then he also was hurt so they can beat you in a number of ways.
00:28:43
It's not all the receivers have to be producing every week.
00:28:47
It's more mainly one person, but and they could just spread it out where they want me.
00:28:51
Eric Ebron has been playing better.
00:28:54
They could get Vance involved.
00:28:55
I know he doesn't catch a lot of passes as they used to, but they could get him involving.
00:28:59
Connor has been really good.
00:29:01
Um, I think this season, like I've said, when he's healthy, he's a top 10 all purpose back.
00:29:06
He can come out of the backfield, catch the ball.
00:29:08
So you know that something's gonna be a big key for the Ravens.
00:29:10
Is how they stopped Connor coming out.
00:29:14
But you know, the offensive line.
00:29:16
The defensive line of the Ravens that that's going to be.
00:29:19
That's gonna be awesome to see.
00:29:20
You know the Castros back.
00:29:21
Um, of course you have got You have Mega Quake coming on the defensive line with Clay Escape twice.
00:29:26
Campbell, Brandon Williams, Derek Wolfe.
00:29:29
I mean, uh, Brandon Williams is not pass rusher.
00:29:33
He's just a guy that clogs the middle of the defense so that Campbell and Wolf can rush the passer.
00:29:40
So smell smash mouth football.
00:29:42
I mean, yeah, I know people like the dog on building a waiver for some stuff that I'm not going to get into on this episode, right? He's been really good this season.
00:29:50
They've had a couple of you know, dots in the rookie, okay, For what? He's not taking counties has fit right in to Castro's to Castro policies policy.
00:30:00
Um, you know, they've kept then this is I think it would be their biggest test to keep them on their feet.
00:30:05
And so, I think, only exactly three times this season in six teams, he's almost never hit.
00:30:11
So, um yeah, but I just don't know.
00:30:15
When I look at this game, I kind of see a loss.
00:30:18
I've always I've never feel comfortable going into Baltimore.
00:30:20
Meaning they don't have a few times.
00:30:22
And they did it a couple years ago.
00:30:23
But, you know, I've had this as an L on the schedule for a while.
00:30:27
I just don't think they win this game.
00:30:29
Yeah, Yeah, I think the biggest thing here.
00:30:32
No, I'm not seeing any break breaking news.
00:30:35
There's there's nothing.
00:30:36
There's no news here.
00:30:37
But the big thing here, I think, is, um is which team could be more physical on? I think that the line for this game, um, the line for this game is like Ravens by 4.5.
00:30:50
I don't know why it's that high.
00:30:51
I think it would be like if we'll go our last.
00:30:54
Um, So the big thing I think for the Ravens is can they establish the run game is gonna be tough, but I think with, um, I'm sorry, the better ways can they establish the outside outside game like outside runs? Because that's the big one.
00:31:09
You're you're not going to run it up the middle on this dealers.
00:31:11
It's a group effort with how they defense is.
00:31:14
I mean, you leave what? And do pre unblock.
00:31:17
They're just gonna stop you every time.
00:31:19
And so you.
00:31:20
Then you have to it in Hayward right there, right? It's Williams's.
00:31:23
He's probably I This might be a biased talk right now, but he's probably one of the five best one peer run stoppers inside line.
00:31:30
Yeah, I can't think of other than like, Aaron, Donald and some of these other guys, but, like, I can't think of many players are better, but yeah, what they do. But go ahead.
00:31:40
Yeah, I know, but like, I think so.
00:31:41
Basically, I think the outside of numbers it's gonna be a big key, though there as well.
00:31:45
So I think the runs are gonna be big JK looks like Mark Ingram may or may not play so decades.
00:31:53
So it's I think it's this could be J.
00:31:55
K.
00:31:56
Dobbins breakout game, especially if they try to do stretch runs.
00:31:59
Um, I think guts that words is gonna struggle in this game because he's, um and then just a still has to really hasn't been used much.
00:32:08
I would love to see.
00:32:09
And I think the key is anything.
00:32:12
That's why I said the key.
00:32:13
And that's why those come going out going at the key is that marquees Brown obviously, um, like you two corners sort of Steelers aren't the greatest, so I think heading those a couple shots downfield would be great.
00:32:25
But I think Devin Duvernay and Dobbins Air gonna be big because with Duvernay, they've been running a lot of jet sweeps with with him, and he's a guy that that could kind of, like stretch to the defense horizontally.
00:32:40
You got You have Dobbins who's just if you, if anyone listening who went to Ohio State knows how good Dobbins has been the last two or three years, I mean, it's gonna definitely like that.
00:32:50
Here's the one thing I will say where the Steelers who have an advantage and I think I texted you.
00:32:55
This.
00:32:56
The Ravens only have one receiver who is over 6 ft tall, and we're not counting debts because he's not on the active roster yet.
00:33:02
But that one receivers Miles Boykin and he hasn't done.
00:33:05
He has done absolutely nothing.
00:33:07
Yeah, I mean, look here if, like here, saying I would I know that the Cowboys don't want to trade Michael Gallup.
00:33:16
Andi, I know he has two years on a deal on his cap hit.
00:33:19
It's like 900,000.
00:33:21
So it's like you were really gonna pay, like, 400,000.
00:33:26
But I would honestly package RG three.
00:33:29
And Boykin, uh, perhaps you maybe even Boykin in a in a trade for a guy like Gallup Forgot Golladay Or or, I think, a text to do this.
00:33:40
Another ***.
00:33:41
So I said it was like they apparently when, um when they're talking and gawk would they were actually talking to the Vikings about dealing and Earth Junior, That was like, If, if so, I mean, I would I wouldn't mind.
00:33:54
It feels like a for dealing.
00:33:56
I would definitely give up Miles Boykin and a draft pick for dealing.
00:34:00
But I think with Miles Boykin this this is its last year to prove that he, uh, he could be wide receiver.
00:34:06
Because I think what if he struggles? I think that and you don't trade him.
00:34:11
I think that the Ravens will probably tell him gain about 15 more pounds and will use you as a tight end.
00:34:17
Like that's where I think that's what he might.
00:34:20
What? They might have him.
00:34:21
Dio.
00:34:22
So, um, I think he is depending on what he might be a candidate for a position change.
00:34:29
So I think that's the key there.
00:34:30
Um, and the reason I bring it up because I think the Steelers can be a little more physical and jam in Hollywood, Brown or Willie's need.
00:34:39
So I think you guys do you have the event and that's Duvernay or Dobbins Or do those outside runs? Um, that might soften up the Steelers defense at that point, so yeah, yeah, and then I think now we could move.
00:34:57
Um, is there anything else you wanna cover about dealers? You see how the Ravens past game is? Um, Nelson's been a lot better since those last few games paid and has been picked on a bit, though, So that's gonna interesting.
00:35:10
Mike Helton is not going to play.
00:35:12
That's a A it's He hasn't been practicing this week.
00:35:16
He has a bum shoulder.
00:35:18
But Cam Sutton played really good last week.
00:35:20
He should have had an interception, so I mean, it's not as big of a downgrade People make it out to be.
00:35:25
But I mean, the loss of Mike Health, especially in the run game, is very felt.
00:35:30
Paul Edmonds has also been pretty good this year.
00:35:33
This has actually been his coming out party.
00:35:35
Last week was probably his best game as an NFL safety, so I would expect, honestly, Edmonds to be on Mark Andrews for a lot of the game.
00:35:44
That's going to be a very intriguing matchup.
00:35:46
They have not let the tight end beat them basically at all this season.
00:35:49
I mean, no offended good, but that was it.
00:35:51
So that's gonna be a big matchup to watch and yeah, I mean, I think I'm probably gonna go Ravens by three, and I think this dealers will take them in Pittsburgh.
00:35:58
But, you know, this is it's gonna be close to the best rivalry in football.
00:36:02
And yeah, I'm excited too.
00:36:05
Yeah, I'm with you.
00:36:06
I think that whoever wins will win by, like, a field goal or less.
00:36:10
Eso basically just get on the Steelers and negative 4.
00:36:13
5 on Did some of these other games.
00:36:16
I mean, uh, you have I mean, the jets just look, Mr Ball at this point.
00:36:22
Yeah, that's the weekly occur.
00:36:25
Inspire Adam Gates already.
00:36:27
Oh, you did you Did you see that story about Trevor Lawrence? Like he's, like, a couple weeks ago.
00:36:31
He said a few weeks ago.
00:36:32
He said, Oh, yeah, I'm gonna graduate in December, and I'm gonna going to declare for the draft.
00:36:36
And he was asked about that question asked about the claim for a draft because it was like, it seems like the Jets were gonna have to number one, taking like, Yeah, I'll think about it pretty much.
00:36:47
And now he's sadly has Covic.
00:36:49
So that's going to be interesting, but yeah.
00:36:53
Do you wanna go to the preview? The video game? Yeah.
00:36:57
Well, let's actually no weaken. Yeah.
00:36:59
I mean, yeah.
00:37:00
So? Well, first of all, before we preview the game we did get to commit this week.
00:37:02
Yes, that's true.
00:37:04
That was a big yeah, linebacker, which is a linebacker.
00:37:07
Tight end way.
00:37:09
Don't know where he's gonna play, but I'm definitely excited to see him, Um, in there, um, we definitely We lost to Wake Forest.
00:37:17
I think that was every year.
00:37:19
We always have one of those.
00:37:20
Like going back since 2005.
00:37:23
Man.
00:37:24
People.
00:37:25
Oh, this is like the 20 thing.
00:37:26
No, I've been moving for this program for 15 years.
00:37:28
They do this crap every year.
00:37:30
They beat Ohio State in 2014.
00:37:32
They come back a week later against TCU.
00:37:34
They lose to them at home.
00:37:35
That's a **** thing.
00:37:36
It like it was That was under a front.
00:37:38
So will be this every single year.
00:37:41
It's not surprised they were in that game until the end.
00:37:46
Offensively, they stunk The defense.
00:37:47
I really I can criticize defense at the start, but in the second half, they gave up what man? Like probably 37 points or something like that.
00:37:57
Criticize the defense for that.
00:37:59
They kept them in the game.
00:38:01
Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I agree.
00:38:02
I mean, that's why um I think that the big thing for me is, and I'll keep saying it until it's not true.
00:38:10
You can't rely on two players on the offense, two or three players on the offense.
00:38:15
You need 3 to 5.
00:38:17
And I think that Ah, lot of people wanted to just keep feeding of all the Khalil Herbert over and over and over again.
00:38:23
But the problem is, we need to.
00:38:25
We need to get Blackshear involved in the game.
00:38:27
We need Turner to get involved in game.
00:38:28
We need Robinson, get involved in the game and the problem.
00:38:31
And it's not like you can just do that in practice because you need game time experience and that's my biggest thing.
00:38:38
And I know it slows down the offense and I know it makes fans.
00:38:42
Let's more frustrated, but it's something that needs to happen now.
00:38:46
Also, to be fair, apparently, Blackshear had some like he wasn't able to practice as much.
00:38:50
Now you're seeing more and more of him, which is good, but against Louisville, especially a team like Louisville who is very fast, who can score points in a hurry, who can Um who is like I said very fast on offense and defense.
00:39:03
You need a team like that.
00:39:05
You need to be able to rely on a bunch of other people in like trade to, like, get not just have those 588 to 10 minute drive.
00:39:13
But if you need to score within five plays or less, score was in those one or two minute drives.
00:39:19
So that's what you need to do.
00:39:21
And you need like, that's what, Um, and this game might turn out to be a Syria.
00:39:25
I don't know about you, but I don't know what what do you think that this game could turn out to be a serious of two minute drives? Yeah, I mean, it potentially could be, you know, again, last week I had problems with Brad Core Nelson's play calling again.
00:39:37
Just, you know, they was one of the first drives.
00:39:39
The beginning. They get down to the four yard line.
00:39:41
You're calling a jet sleep to the short side of the field like that.
00:39:44
That's not you can't call that, and then, like towards the late stages of the game, where it's a two possession game, five minutes to go, you're establishing the run.
00:39:51
It's like you got to go up tempo here.
00:39:53
It's like they've, like, never practiced before like that.
00:39:56
I know I criticize him a lot, but, you know, until he keeps stops doing it, I'm just gonna continue to criticize the offensive coordinator just because he's not good at his job.
00:40:05
And I think hooker and clubber have been able to hide Ah, lot of that this season and, you know, handing his coming off his worst game has called for VT quarterback.
00:40:15
So I would assume he would be much better in this game.
00:40:17
I think they could definitely win this game.
00:40:20
Coming him is back this week for Louisville, Right? Uh, I think he is coming.
00:40:25
Him their quarterback? Yeah.
00:40:26
Yeah, he was in there last week.
00:40:28
Yeah.
00:40:29
So it's gonna be a tough game. They're going to score.
00:40:31
But, you know, we'll see.
00:40:33
You know, you gotta win this game.
00:40:34
You got Miami coming up next week.
00:40:35
Elaine, you know you have liberty.
00:40:38
Oh, no, you're right, Liberty.
00:40:39
That's right. Liberty is first rank.
00:40:41
But, I mean, liberty really hasn't.
00:40:44
Yeah, I know.
00:40:45
Like No, it's on Louisville Liberty, Miami pit.
00:40:49
Uh, Clemson, U V.
00:40:51
I think that's all winnable.
00:40:53
games.
00:40:54
Except for the Clemson won.
00:40:55
We'll see how they finish off this year.
00:40:57
Yeah, and in just a few more things Here, uh, it is now official.
00:41:03
Steve Cohen is the owner.
00:41:05
Mayor Bill de Blasio did approve the sale.
00:41:08
So he is now officially the He is the owner.
00:41:12
Um, also for Orioles fans out there.
00:41:14
The Orioles did claim you'll more Sanchez from the White Sox.
00:41:19
This is only significant because Hansen Alberto are the guy we have currently for second base.
00:41:24
He is, um he's in his second our integration.
00:41:29
And given the fact that we were talking about how money could be tight, that be a sign of him being traded.
00:41:35
We don't know whether Glacier is gonna be the shortstop if they take his option, and then they flip him.
00:41:44
Um, yeah.
00:41:46
If they flip, if they flip him for prospects.
00:41:48
So I mean, there is, uh, my brother just sent me.
00:41:53
My brother sent me text and just, uh, sometime team t mobile or something.
00:41:57
So if I'm distracted a little bit, then no, but yeah.
00:42:01
So, like, that's kind of where I am there.
00:42:03
Um, I also think that, like going back Thio.
00:42:07
Um, the e I think the Ronnie Stanley signing just shows the Ravens are just They're one of the better ge Better front office in the league because they had, um, Ronnie Stanley in 2016 in the first round.
00:42:21
He waas hold on one second, like I said.
00:42:26
Okay, So, t Mobile Tuesday.
00:42:27
Okay.
00:42:28
God, yeah, I apologize. It does.
00:42:30
My brother sent me a text saying that, um, you know, a T mobile or something, and there's a code that will sense Let me just quickly send it.
00:42:37
But yeah.
00:42:39
Was there anything that anything else that you wanted to bring? Uh, okay, Yeah.
00:42:44
He doesn't bring up for you for about really? Did.
00:42:48
From college football last week.
00:42:50
Loved the decision by Indiana to go for the win there.
00:42:53
I don't think coaches do that enough.
00:42:55
You know, I think that be more aggressive.
00:42:57
Yeah, like I mean, and I think it also like for ****ytics wise to like go.
00:43:02
You want to be a top 10 team, I you tryto win it there and then try to play for the toy or whatever the **** it is.
00:43:11
Go for the win.
00:43:12
I mean, remember for the A C C championship game for Tech one day, even said if they had scored with that broad Evans drive they were gonna win for the wind with less than 30 seconds to go, they were going to go to meet them.
00:43:22
So I mean, I'm glad Indiana do it.
00:43:25
It worked out.
00:43:26
You know, it's gonna be a controversial call for years to come.
00:43:28
Oh, yeah, it's all looked like, you know, uh, remainder up.
00:43:32
But it's also funny with ****ytics, like with ****ytical based decision making.
00:43:36
People don't complain when it works, but yeah, it's like, Oh, yeah, like the Dodgers won.
00:43:42
It's like See, it's a win against ****ytics.
00:43:44
Like Dodgers use ****ytics as much as any other people.
00:43:49
Of course, they use it.
00:43:51
They got lucky back stick.
00:43:53
They use the bullpen game in Game six.
00:43:56
Yeah, and in game, game two to I mean yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:44:02
I mean the ray, of course, like but like the race still over Reliance and we can have a debate on the over reliance of ****ytics but still in the race because of ****ytics.
00:44:13
There were two wins away because they use it in their decision making.
00:44:16
And they have a low payroll just for obvious reasons.
00:44:19
But yeah, we gotta dio e I still as a still has an Orioles fan would not mind basing our rebuild off Tampa Bay because clearly what they're doing is a good idea.
00:44:32
Um uh, what else? You and also with the Ronnie Stanley thing? Um, it probably also attract attention.
00:44:42
Probably also means that Orlando Brown is not going to be resigned, because right now we have to sign Lemar.
00:44:49
We gotta sign.
00:44:50
Um, Mark Andrews.
00:44:52
We gotta sign Janek.
00:44:53
We gotta sign Jew dogs gone.
00:44:56
We're not finding him and and then we go outside Orlando.
00:44:59
But then, even after that, Hollywood's contracts would be up soon after those guys get their contracts, or however, many of them get contracts, and then Patrick Queen would would be due up.
00:45:10
So it seems like Orlando Brown might be theon man out in that situation and sucks because his dad played for the Ravens.
00:45:19
Um, it's a nice story, but he's the one guy I could see them trading just gets traffics and all this other stuff, but yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:45:28
I mean, uh, nothing, nothing else.
00:45:31
I mean, I'm checking Twitter, see if there's any, like trades and stuff like that.
00:45:34
But no, there really happening with a bunch of, like, fake trades.
00:45:38
Which is which is a noise.
00:45:39
Nothing that's going on right now.
00:45:42
Just Mets fans being happy about Steve Cohen.
00:45:45
Oh, yeah, and and And obviously they're going to spend the money now like that's the That's the thing that yeah, no.
00:45:55
Yeah, no problem there.
00:45:56
But yeah, I mean, I think that that's also that's all for today's episode of Sports Talk, Um, sports talk central.
00:46:05
Um, so eso Justin s O if you keep, uh, this was the first time you saw one of episodes.
00:46:14
We thank you for doing truth.
00:46:16
And listen, we do have a bunch of our, um, other episodes that are on my page or 100 100 page and then But don't worry, we'll we'll tweet out the link to this episode.
00:46:27
You could go through over there if your viewer thank you for being repeat viewer.
00:46:31
And then we'll see you again next week around the same time. Perfect.
00:46:36
I'll see you next week, all right? Right.
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