And with that friends, we welcome you in two.
NFL side of things with myself.
Adam Arm Break. Joined by Laurence Owen.
As we, of course, jump in on the Thursday night review between the Atlanta Falcons and the Carolina Panthers.
Laurence Owen, take your soapbox for a minute.
Please go ahead and congratulate yourself.
You pick this one right over myself and Ray calling for the Atlanta Falcons to pull out a victory in spite of being a one win team coming into it.
Well, I mean, let's let's be fair.
Um, you guys had a good right to think about Carolina.
I mean that they have more wins.
Teddy water has looked pretty good, but the teams that that Carolina has played has not been the teams that the Falcons have played.
And they played those teams very tight.
I just felt as though the Falcons offense was just so much more potent than what the Panthers are used to playing against.
Yes, their defense is bad.
But, hey, you know what? So many NFL fans, even myself, forgot to bring this guy up yesterday.
Grady, juror is not a bum, okay? And he affected this game multiple, multiple times.
So you know, I mean, congratulations to the Falcons and their second win of the season.
Um, man there there's a bunch of con, even though, even though it was a game that no one really wanted on a Thursday Hey, next Thursday night game is gonna be great, by the way, but this well, but by the way, like and we've said this last couple of weeks, right, like you look at the matchup on paper, you go Geez, like, this is the Thursday night game.
And if you remove yourself from records, you know, and just look at the game on the field, they're competitive.
They're fun, games to watch.
And that's what you saw here.
Now, unfortunately for Carolina, this is a game where they could have gotten to 500 kept things interesting for themselves.
I think falling to three and five in that division makes it a pretty hard hole to climb out of.
They'll have some divisional matchup, the impact that.
But when we start to look into this game a little bit, one of the things that we talked about last night and the reason why I think Ray and I push back against your Atlanta pick was saying, But my goodness, this defense is is just brutal for Atlanta.
They can't seem to stand up.
They held out McKinney, potentially looking to trade him before the deadline.
And yet in a wet game, which, you know, we we also said, Check the weather sometimes couldn't hurt if you want to get some insights.
It was a wet game, and the Atlanta Falcons defense did show up here, though, in spite of Teddy Bridgewater having a pretty solid season to this 10.
15 to 2300 and 76 yards.
So Sub 200 in a wet day, obviously, one up, one down interception at the back end there.
They were down eight, but then even the running game.
You know, 13 for 66 for Mike Davis.
I can actually make a case that Carolina should have been leaning heavier on the run game to really try to keep that tempo and pace on their side of it.
But what did you see from Atlanta's defense? What did you like? And do you think that they may be lucked out by Carolina not saying Hey, watch us.
Try to run this ball down your throat for a while, though.
They are good against the run, to be fair.
Yeah, that's that's kind of odd.
Like Like I was saying, Grady Jarrett is a beast at clogging holes.
Okay, but what we did see a little bit of yesterday was guys getting in the backfield.
We ain't seen that all season for Atlanta, and yet we're seeing blitzes.
This this new head coach for Atlanta is throwing out blitzes that we weren't seeing before.
You were seeing corner blitzes.
You were seeing safety blitzes.
You were seeing guys were defensive lineman.
We're going out on on past protection and then sending in the linebackers.
You were seeing a very diverse blitz package from Atlanta on a multiple in multiple points in this game, UM, three sacks against Teddy Bridgewater, 6.
5 tackles for a loss and six tackles.
So the pressure was there in a lot of different areas of the game.
It's not just the sack numbers like you said, meeting the running backs in the backfield and also getting back there and putting pressure on Teddy Bridgewater.
So this could be a situation because, like I said, we we haven't seen this from Atlanta before.
Maybe the head coaches put pressure on the defensive coordinator.
We wait is a defensive coordinator of the head coach.
That's Raheem Morris.
So this is a guy who had his time down there in Tampa Bay.
And even though when we talked about this, too, he is.
He was on the coaching staff.
But one of the things they mentioned in the broadcast last night? Ah, Troy Aikman there and Joe Buck said, The all these players really like Morris.
So I think you're getting now.
You know you're turning it over, getting away from a coach that I think people didn't like so much in that locker room.
But now they're looking at a coach that maybe otherwise wouldn't get a head coaching opportunity again.
They could be playing for him to get a chance to carry over into next season.
So you see that and his impact on the defense and how they approach attacking last night the Carolina Panthers.
He might feel a little more free to make these kind of plays as well.
These kind of defensive calls just for the simple fact that you know this is a free ride for him right now.
This year, right? It's not like, Well, I may lose my job.
No, no, he's gotta play up.
He's gotta take those chances to try to keep this job.
So you're seeing something.
You might be seeing quite a bit of different things from him right now, where he's where he's calling things a little bit looser on defense.
Now, he still has some bad talent.
On the back end of his defense, there's you saw a lot of plays, especially in the first quarter against Carolina, where his defensive backs were just getting beat terribly by some of these wide receivers from from Carolina.
But then, once he started bringing these blitz packages, Bridgewater was running for his life the majority of the rest of the game.
So the one thing that we will touch on before we flip over what Atlanta did offensively and this is talking about the Atlanta Falcons defense was it's another week.
Another ugly hit against a quarterback, a defensive player, defensive player on the field there.
We saw this with Jon Bostic last week.
I just This is a footnote, but I know there's about mo mentum and you're trying to make the play.
But these air now multiple examples of defensive players I don't know, just turning off their brain, just not really paying attention.
The quarterbacks in both these cases are on the ground, and this one last night, where Harris ends up getting ejected for it, he comes in from behind late and just hits right into the back of the head of Teddy.
Bridgewater has to go out.
He clears concussion testing, so he's able to come back into the game.
He also suffered a leg with their by another defensive player.
One point that's a little more incidental, but specifically these late Q B hits.
Bad teams seem to do this more than the good teams.
The well coached teams.
Is there anything there, you know, beyond just hey, get your head out of your you know what? And stop making these aggressively is hit because you know the league is going to come down on it.
Yeah, I don't think this is Ah ah! New Orleans Saints thing from those years ago where you were, you know? You know what I'm talking about? Where the Yeah.
Hey, will pay you to do this? Yeah.
I mean, no, no, no, no, I don't I don't think that that they're out there actually head hunting.
I think it is exactly what what you're saying.
It's generally you see, this year, offenses the offenses are being outstanding.
I mean, you're seeing records being broken, you know, the high ends on on points scored, and these defensive players are doing everything they can.
They're putting their heart and soul into it, and they're just not thinking like like you said, they're they're out there.
Their high adrenaline, They're they're just trying to make a play.
Sometimes you just gotta pull back a little bit, especially when you see Hey, this this play is definitely over, okay? Or even it looks like it's about to be over.
But I get that sometimes against certain quarterbacks like when you're playing against my homes or Jackson or something like that, it looks like it's over, but it's not over yet until you hear that whistle because they had that massive escape ability of, you know, that they have.
And by the way, Mahomes has kind of gotten this reputation a little bit of doing that thing.
Or he tantalizes that he's going out of bounds and then like to shuffle his feet for for a couple extra yards.
And as a young guy who's who's having success in the league.
Better be careful because there's gonna come a game where a defensive player makes an active decision.
Not about oops, a mistake.
He's going to give you the extra pop, even if you're out of bounds, just to let you know.
Hey, we're gonna let you step out and you better step out because you could try to get an extra two or three yards.
Then you are going to start getting some of these big hits and he's a bigger body guy.
But certainly that's gonna start to have that wear and tear impact.
So listen, it's something to keep an eye on.
It is a product of the NFL, and in a game where effectively the Carolina Panthers were held with Teddy Bridgewater to a 44.
5 Q B R rating in this game.
On the flip side offensively for Atlanta, the old veteran in Matt Ryan.
It feels like he's He still feels young to me, a lot of ways that you don't realize that he's getting into, you know, his mid thirties in the twilight of his career.
But he gets sacked just two times in this game.
21 of 3281 yards, 90.
5 q B rating, in spite of not throwing a touchdown, did run for one and then also had an interception here in the running game.
Before we get into, I think what really is the big feature for this one? Obviously, Brian Hill takes over some of those snap counts over girly for a while, girly on 18 carries, just 2.
6 yards per clip there.
Five yards so it could see a changing of the guard.
They're going to the younger running back.
Here's the feature point injury there on the foot for Calvin Ridley.
He doesn't come back in this one.
Julio Jones seven catches.
Ah, 137 yards, clearly still the tandem there in Atlanta with Matt Ryan and Julio Jones.
We talked about trade possibilities.
Both these players came and said.
They want to be there in Atlanta, and maybe this was a bit of that statement game from both of them.
Just saying, Yeah, we can still do this.
We can still be productive here and win games you know, in Atlanta as constituted.
Well, I mean, wriggly goes out.
Julio was doing well before really went out, but but But when? When? When, When really went out.
It became the Julio Jones Show when it came and when it came to the past.
I mean, most of your incompletions was because Matt Ryan was trying to force it into double coverage against Julio Jones.
Like that one in the end zone, right where I think he had two of them in the end zone and different points in the game where he was double covered and I'm just like I get it.
Julio was that type of player, like I was saying earlier to you before the stream started.
He is like Megatron.
If you do, yes, there's a lot of weapons for Atlanta, but if you end up having injuries and there's one wide receiver that you could have on your team, the guys that are playing right now, Julio is that Dude, I get that.
Hopkins is a great receiver, but Julio is that kind of guy that could just make things happen.
Hopkins is a great route runner, great pass catcher, but Julio can make something happen against double and triple teams that you don't normally see from Hopkins, Right? Hopkins is great, one on ones guaranteed.
But Julio is just that, that special player and they said before, like Like they they said during the stream, they don't want to go anywhere.
They they don't want to go anywhere they want to stay.
And, hey, you know what? Let's talk about Matt Ryan's wheels.
Alright, This mid thirties quarterback that can't run.
And yet he got what, 45 yards rushing yesterday on on multiple carries, like six carries.
There were times when there just wasn't any one thing for him to throw to, and he took off and went to go get the first down or a touchdown on Lee took on.
Lee took the defensive defensive player stumbling a little bit the end zone, so let him get into their on that first little scamper for a touchdown.
But yeah, listen, but this is also, you know, situational football, right? This, this does speak to you don't have to be a fast quarterback now.
It is the way the league is going.
But as long as you have the that that clock in your head where you go, I'm working through progressions.
Let's start to move myself towards the edge.
Let's start to open up the opportunity for me to run.
If I want Thio, and then once you make the choice, just commit to it and try to get those extra yards. You get lucky.
There may be with the defender falling down, but you still give yourself a chance to get a score there.
You know you talk.
We talked about this about wide receivers yesterday.
It's worth going back to the traditional quote unquote wide receiver that is a Julio Jones that is a Calvin Johnson that is a Randy Moss, right big a Plexico Burress.
Remember for the Giants in their second Super Bowl run like that.
So much of what the importance is for the New York for the football giants for the Atlanta Falcons.
For any of these teams, you can, even though the double coverage hurt at times to throw in there for Matt Ryan, you can go to that well a number of times because the pressure you put on a defense to try to battle a 636465 body in the end zone, it takes double teams to break those up.
When it's an old L.
Beckham Jr went into Hopkins.
As good as he is as this as the field shrinks and you get into the red zone, it's a lot easier.
I put in quotes because it's not an easy task, but it's easier to defend Ah, 5 11 6 ft 61 wide receiver in the end zone than it is to defend some of these really big bodies.
And that's still to me what so many of these teams have to think about.
When you construct your wide receiver group, you need the big bodied, red zone target weapon.
It's what the Kansas City Chiefs benefit of.
Having a Travis Kelsey a tight end, right? That's how you can mitigate that.
You have Hurst there in Atlanta and he had a nice day, but he's a chain mover.
He's not to commit to it Red zone throw and make it happen kind of guy for you.
So it's interesting to see how you construct that and still seeing that Atlanta has the ability to, of course, be successful.
But now the question becomes, with two years on Julio Jones contract, are you still committed to Julio Jones at that kind of number going forward? Are you still committed to Matt Ryan at that kind of number? And if they are as well talk about not just for Atlanta, both sides of the ball here, the deadline impact around trades.
If both these players are committed and want to stay in Atlanta, the true commitment could be You've both made your money.
You're both comfortable if you re structure those contracts in this off season.
That's how you open up cap space for this team to be able to get better on both sides of the bowl.
Do you see Atlanta being completely out of the trade market and they're going to commit to the rest of this season? And on the flip side for Carolina are they may be still a buyer here to get back involved or they steady as we go.
This was a partial rebuilding underneath Matt Rule this year, All right.
I think they're pretty steady as they go when it comes to Carolina.
I think they're doing a decent job of putting weapons.
Uh, putting together.
Ah, good. Overall team.
They need, uh They just need time.
I don't think that bridge well, I think raise right.
I think Bridgewater is a bridge quarterback.
He's a good bridge quarterback, but it's better than bridge.
But yeah, I'm saying you're not staying with a long term.
Yeah, he's not that he's not that that franchise quarterback that you wanna have that you know, is gonna be consistently in the top 10.
And you could put the e mean this game alone says it right.
You can't put you can't put the game on his back and expect him to win the game for you, even against, ah, suspect defense as the Atlanta Falcons.
Um, now, with Atlanta, I think Matt and Julio should probably I think you're right.
Maybe restructure a little bits.
They have a little bit of extra money, maybe to add a little bit to their defense.
Um, they also need to start up.
I mean, they obviously know how to draft well, when it comes to the offensive side.
But defensively, I haven't.
When you get rid of your best players outside of Grady Jarrett, when you get rid of a true pond and guys like that, you're like, What are you doing? You gotta make sure you have somebody there to replace him.
That's why I don't want to see Matt Ryan go.
I don't want to see Julio go because no matter how good really is, he's not Julio, right? Even even even today, you know, even next year he will still not be Julio.
Julio still probably got 23 years of the elitist that he has left in him.
Matt Ryan still playing very, very well.
Now, will Matt Ryan be Peyton Manning or Tom Brady? Or someone like that who ends up playing into his forties? I don't know.
It looks like he's got plenty of hay still got a heck of an arm on him.
We've seen that all year where he could throw rockets downfield.
But sometimes decision making is a little bit questionable.
Yeah, and you wonder, too, because they brought in Todd Gurley in the offseason, obviously, so you could tell they still thought they wanted to try to be competitive.
This is sometimes the example of of knowing when that era is over and it's time to transition Now.
You can still hold over guys, but I think if they went back and looked at it again, they'd say, Let's not bother with Todd Gurley. Move.
You know we'll live with Hill.
We'll take a look at the markets, see what else is out there.
And it didn't cost him a ton toe. Have them in there, either.
But at the same time, where else could you have spent that money you mentioned? You let so many of your key defensive players over the last handful of years leave through free agency or trade them away? It seems counterintuitive.
Either you need to be doing it on both sides of the ball and stripping away some of those assets collectively or stay with it and go and, you know, go into the into the over the cap and spent.
You have to pay those penalties to keep some of these talented players around.
The weird thing to me, I'll say as we mentioned, McKinney gets held out last night.
So you know, what message is that? Sending? Because you went out and everyone played hard.
You won the game, but you still came into the game saying, We're gonna keep one of these guys off the field because we made trade him.
And if they still end up trading him, then again Now you're taking a good player for your for your defensive side of the ball and saying, uh, we're gonna go ahead and move on.
We'll try to replace you next year.
So I don't know how quickly you can both keep Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and also rebuild the defensive side of the ball.
Now the upside is you can rebuild that side of the ball as Matt Ryan and Julio Jones air coming to the end of their contracts over these next 23 seasons.
You could do all those things on that side through the draft, and then it will become.
How bad are you on a season season basis to get yourself a high enough pick to get a quarterback? Do you draft someone in the middle rounds and try to groom them.
I'll be curious to see if Atlanta goes that route of Hey, who's the guy we take in the third or fourth round that can learn from that Ryan for two years and be ready to take over.
But when you're so heavy on one side of the ball, it's not easy to kind of, you know, do the soft rebuild on the fly.
You can end up then having a great defense and wondering who's throwing the ball to Calvin Ridley.
Yeah, well, I'm gonna go back to your your thought about Maybe they shouldn't have went with Todd Gurley.
Now I understand why they went that direction.
I would have went with someone other than Todd Gurley.
But last year Devante Freeman was just awful, uh, awful.
And and the fact that they did not have an effective running game whatsoever effected the fact that teams weren't afraid of their running game, which meant that they were able to focus solely on the passing game.
And, you know, that kind of hampered the dynamic that they have their with that.
So they were looking for something so where teams had to at least respect the running game so that their passing game would be at, you know, its full effect during the season.
So I get why they went with girly.
I would have went a little bit different direction personally, but hey, um, I mean, let's let's say girly outside of this game.
I think girl, he's been pretty solid this season.
Yeah, yeah, he hasn't been No, but my nose touches even bad.
And I just think that, you know, this is true about just running backs in general right now, over committing to a running back at any point later.
Anything beyond 26? Probably 27 years old.
You're seeing it a little bit with Zeke Elliot in Dallas.
They're right about like, Hey, big contract.
Not saying he's not shot right is not completely done.
What you're seeing.
He's certainly coming down to Earth a little bit as that offensive line suffers from some injuries as well.
But on the season right now for Todd Gurley, you're talking about a guy that's averaging 3.
8 yards per carry.
Uh, you know, 140 attempts.
531 yards, So I mean, listen, it's there for you, right 13 receptions for 77 to complement.
It has fumbled the ball a couple of times, so that, maybe, is, you know, a mild concern there.
You can live with it.
I I think, though, if you're Atlanta, you wanna be high powered again.
You wanna you wanna running back? That's giving you 4.
5 yards a clip with consistency and you'll see if they go to Brian Hill.
So maybe that's maybe it's overstating that that's the linchpin of the failures for Atlanta in this off season.
I just think again, when you think about moving on the head coach, you should have done that already, right? I mean that.
That's that's Everyone agrees Atlanta should have come into this year with that.
With Dan, Queen is the head coach.
You already had a track record going back to the Super Bowl about not being able to consistently close out games, you see, and you and I talked about this with Ray last night, Okay, there's coaching and all of those things, and obviously that's a part of it.
We said maybe the players need to be aware as well, right? How do you not know about certain rules on sidekicks, etcetera.
But at some point it's just an organizational mindset and organizational mentality of Hey were to come up small team were the team that doesn't do what we need to do in those big moments.
So it just seems like maybe they were a little bit confused about where they were in the hierarchy of their own division, in the hierarchy of playoff runs.
Still a long season to go.
But they had a little bit of a misjudgment, and you were somewhat pot committed on with with contracts.
You had a big positions.
I think that some of the more confusing moves that they had this past off season was moral, in my opinion, was more on the defense of side, especially.
Why do you move sideways on your pass rusher? Why do you go get Davante Fowler after you basically released a guy who looks exactly like him plays exactly like him? You know, I don't get that.
I I don't understand that.
Here's here's the issue.
The guy they had before when they had a veteran, a good veteran pass rusher in, um, Dwight Freeney, you know, just to sit there and his rookie year.
The guys they had before, I think he had, like, 16 sacks that year or something like it was amazing.
And then they let go with that.
That that veteran guy thinking, okay, he's it.
But he didn't have the guy to to still learn from and lean on.
And then his his pass rush went down.
Then you go get a guy who has the exact same kind of skill set.
Why would you do that? E.
I mean, it's not like it's not only the exact same skill set, but at the same level with the same kind of negatives and positives, right? Uh, not a very strong when it comes toe power rushing.
He's not great against the run when it comes right up the middle, stuff like that, yes, he's got Bend, he's got speed.
And that Z, he's a He's a one trick pony.
A zoo, Much as it is, uh, been an interesting situation.
This is a player that now has bounced around to a second team in season after starting with Jacksonville Jaguars.
A guy like in GAC way you go.
If you're gonna go make a move that would have cost you assets, whatever.
But if you're saying we're committed to going for it this year, we think we could still be competitive.
Then go get him, bring him in there and let him be disruptive on the defensive side of the ball for you in a way that these other speed Russia that don't have the power and strength to take on offensive linemen with consistency and beat with consistency you're not going to get those results there doesn't mean that having a Fowler isn't a nice weapon, but it's completely different beast to your point of a Freeney, you're seeing this down and we're talking about Tampa Bay and the next month that match up with Jpp, who went on from the Giants and then has a second life there because he's big and he's powerful and you could get around the edge and has 5.
5 sacks like you know I will.
I often get into debates around pressures and sacks.
You know the devil's in the details when it comes to stat lines.
But sacks are sacks like, though still matter in the hurries Count two and the pressures count.
So it's interesting to think about your right From that standpoint, if you're going to make a move in the offseason defense side of the ball, you have to be really mindful about where you're going to spend that money toe have the biggest impact.
Um, let's just talk briefly here about Carolina.
One of the things that I mentioned on Social Media last night was I asked the New York Jets.
So you don't you want to keep Robby Anderson toe? Help your young quarterback grow or you think that we don't We don't need him.
You watch what he's doing down there in Carolina with Teddy Bridgewater, being a very effective chain mover player for them comes away with another five for 48 in this one longer 27 on eight targets.
Just consistency within that wide receiver room.
There's a lot of things toe like both at this deadline.
I don't anticipate Carolina being buyers here, steady as they go, but they already have a lot of nice pieces there, including finding out that Mike Davis could be a contributor for you.
Even when you get Christian McCaffrey back.
What do you anticipate them assessing over what is gonna be the back half of the season now for them.
Is it just Hey, is McCaffery good to go here healthy and we can continue to move forward? That's 16 million price tag.
Do they feel comfortable? We finally saw a little bit more action in this one for D. J.
Maura, only a couple of receptions but big receptions in this game when the game was still kind of hanging there in the balance in the second half.
They have a lot of boxes checked for themselves right now, I think adding defensive talent to supplement what they're doing there right now.
Yes, but they have young talent.
The cornerback position as well.
Like Carolina is gonna be in a great mid round pick kind of spot going into the offseason in the draft, where they get to say, How do we just get a little bit better now? How do we incrementally get a little bit better here? They don't have to make any enormous moves right.
They don't need to worry about tanking just to be in the top six or seven situation to get one of the high picks, wide receiver, defensive end, etcetera.
How do you assess them overall, this roster, they're in a pretty good spot from just, you know, the bird's eye view.
Yeah, I do think they are in a good spot.
Um, overall, uh, they need some more big names, like impact players.
I think they've got a lot of good, uh, just good, solid players that you know aren't really household names, right? That's that's the thing that you're looking at and I don't know, man.
I I think I think that there they'll be fine.
They just they The only problem with where they're at right now is if you finish off with a seven and 98 and 89 and seven records, and you're always picking, you know, in the upper, upper middle or like the twenties of the draft.
Um, you have to be very, very selective on who you're getting, Um, and it's a little more difficult to find out who that premier player is.
That's left right there.
The margin for error is a lot tighter because the chances of hitting or missing or a lot wider there for even from 20 to 32 right back in the first round is about as much of a roll of the dice as it is in the second or even early third round as well. Exactly.
So, uh, you can It's possible to miss on the first and be okay because you hit on your second like hit hit on your second, But you really don't wanna miss too many times on your first round pick when you get your first round pick.
You want that to be an impact player two or three years, You want him to be a household name, right? And I just I have not seen a lot of that.
Moore is not a household name, right? He's a good player, good player, but not a household name.
Um, and you need some of these guys those impact guys, that when? When? When your your team needs a boost.
You look to that guy and go, Hey, we need a play from you now.
And you can rely on that happening whether it be on offense or defense, you know, on the defensive side, Um, you you want you look at a pass rusher or something and go Hey, you know, we need a stop here.
We need this right now.
Go out there and get it done.
And guys like J.
Watt and Erin Donald And as you see now in Cleveland, right? Myles Garrett, Those guys, you could go and look at them and say, Make a play, Get this done for us? Yep.
But Carolina just doesn't have players like that that you could say we can lean on you and and and get this done.
And we had talked about this going way back to the Christian McCaffrey extension and 16 year.
And obviously he is the dynamic weapon.
And the question then becomes when he's there, and I Yeah, we obviously know these there.
But you're speaking to, of course, weapons on the outside, right.
Big play ability.
And his Robby Anderson.
Truly that guy for you? Maybe, you know, but I don't think so.
You probably would prefer to have it be a really elite number two for you, Almost in the dangerous.
And then on the defense of Fort Riley.
Ridley kind of player? Yeah.
Yeah, that za great example, right? You wanna have? It's like, you know, you could look out in Green Bay where you know you have Davante Adams.
Bam! Right? And then these other guys pop up like a Lazard or like a scant ling. You know, you go.
Hey, you guys can be a real elite Number two and benefit from having all the attention over on the other side.
They have that kid Indian Thomas there at tight end.
That, I think, is coming along a little bit for them.
But to your point, there's no true dynamic player, I think.
Playmaker, pure playmaker.
Beyond Christian McCaffrey, though, Robby Anderson was an upgrade for them.
Bring him in this off season, So it'll be interesting to see where they go in the draft as well.
Last thing that, I'll ask about Carolina.
Matt Rule. First year.
I think they feel very comfortable.
He's known to rebuild, you know, programs as he did the college level.
So they're on a good track.
Joe Brady's there is the offensive coordinator.
Does he make it more than one season as the O.
C? Or is he that hot name that's going somewhere else immediately? Because everyone talks about him as being a dynamic play caller.
He's forward thinking, and if he were to move one.
Do you think he'll make it more than one year? You think he committed to a couple of years with With Matt? Ruling said, Hey, I'm bringing you in.
Be a part of this to start at least.
And if he does move, though, what? The team that's ripe for that type of offensive mind to take over.
I think when coaches are taken, no matter how good you are, I think your team's gotta be, Ah, winning organization.
That's that's one thing that that, uh, it's kind of Ah, lean on, Thio, go get a uh I'm sorry.
Hold on one moment.
My my brain is hurting me right now.
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So I missed part of your conversation.
Um, this is really saying Joe Brady.
So is he committed? Do you think that he's committed to being a part of Matt Rules staff in at least in the next couple of years and building that program? And if he goes to your point about joining another organization, it starts with organizational stability.
So could he go somewhere else as a head coach immediately next year and have success.
Or is there one of those stable organization that's ready toe, Have a young mind like that, come in and take over a program? I don't think he's going anywhere.
I I honestly don't I don't think he's going anywhere.
I think he'll be stuff.
Uh, I think he'll be.
He'll stay there just for the general fact some of these places that that you're gonna be looking for head coaches I'm looking at like the New York Jets.
I don't see the New York Jets.
I don't think if I was him, I wouldn't want to go to the New York Jets.
Even if you know gays gone, the organization still is crashed, right? In my opinion, I think it's It's just I wouldn't want to go there as a towel boy.
Um, but but for, uh, in your retrospect, there is something happening.
They are on a positive move, and when you're an offensive coordinator in a defensive coordinator and you're getting calls right about possible head coaching positions, you gotta look at where you're at first, and if you if you believe in your organization and it can move up.
If you If you honestly believe that your team can move up through the rankings over the next course of two or three years, you're helping yourself long term, because that's going to get you more money on that head coaching position later on.
So for him to stay there, he would be betting on himself.
And I think he would be that he should do that because I, I think, would be wise to bet on himself to stay in that organization for a little bit longer.
Watch that organization grow and prosper over the next two or three years, and then when those offers continue to come and he's continuing over the next, you're too saying no, I don't want to yet you're not.
You're not pitching me enough money.
Watch my organization get better and better, and then then you'll start seeing those Those contracts, uh, those high in contract start to drop his way, and that would be the smart thing for him to do over the long course.
I tend to agree and listen.
If you're another team out there, if you're the Jets, you probably desperate.
But some teams, even if you feel like you're well structure.
You're also then talking about taking a potential gamble on a guy that on paper, is a great offensive coordinator.
But you don't know if he's ready to make that next leap.
And you can even think about a sui wrap this one up.
You could even think about the fact that a guy like the enemy in Kansas City right now he's an older coach, but he's been around a long time.
Everyone's fonder of him.
And now, after winning a Super Bowl and being on Andy Reid staff, like all of a sudden, you're seeing his cash get about as high as it's ever been.
So come this next offseason, if there's a head coaching job and people really believe and want him now, it's going to take something to pull him away because he arguably feels pretty comfortable winning Super Bowls with Andy Reid in Kansas City.
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