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Alright, What's up, everybody? It is Wednesday night.
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You know, that means college game breakers coming at you, your college basketball pro podcast and stream brought to you by the breakdown sports.
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Make sure you check us out there at the breakdown sports dot com and follow us on Twitter at b r k d WN on their scores Sports Stephen as here with me as usual, were less than almost a month away.
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Life's about to be good.
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We're about to have multiple college basketball games on ESPN.
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Multicast. We're going have four upon the screen.
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Make sure you have plus that you can get all the action you need.
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It's about to be a wild ride.
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How you doing tonight? I'm good, bro.
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Like I've been here and he's like, November 24th is never gonna be the same.
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So It's like, what, The day before ****ing Thanksgiving? I can.
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I cannot wait like it's This has been like the whole account down all year.
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It's just when college last, we're going to start.
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Yeah, I'm at that age now.
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We're going out on Thanksgiving Eve.
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It's still a great time.
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But if you're going to give me a jam packed loaded sleep with all these games coming up, yeah, I might have some people over and do something different, not go out to the bars now, but yes, so that's the perfect way to get into the first part.
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The MTs are all being announced.
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We got some loaded and jam packed games coming there for the first weekend.
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Poor ST Joe's, my Hawks going up against, um, Kansas and Auburn, and then the other team they could have drawn with Gonzaga.
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So thanks for coming.
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I guess we're officially in the part where we're going to take money to get worked right now.
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Given our season, Um, there are 8 10 preview.
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I guaranteed us 10 wins this season with the shortened schedule than having those two l's in there looking a little bit more questionable, but I'm so confident we can get the 10.
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Who do you? Who does UConn got in there? MTs uh, they haven't.
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They haven't announced the matchups yet, but we're playing some combination of U.
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S, C.
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Vanderbilt and BYU.
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So solid Slate not obviously is tough. Ast the Hawks.
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We like to challenge yourselves in the non con and place, um, quality teams potentially the one and two seeds come down the end of the line.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, hey, USC has both of them.
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Oh, Billy's, they're good.
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BYU has whoever the **** that tall guy was from Purdue. He's good.
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I mean, it's tough enough.
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No respect to Jerry Stackhouse and the boys in Vandy.
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But if any of our viewers on Facebook, Twitter or a SportsCastr, if you're squads involved in empty, let us know who it is and who they're applying will cover it live in our stream tonight.
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But today we're dedicated to the Big 10.
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We got one conference preview left next week with the A C.
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C.
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Next week, but this week we got the 14 teams in the Big 10.
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Obviously, that makes sense, but the Big 10 last year may be true to its name, probably had 10 20 teams.
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They were loaded up top nine teams at 20 plus winds.
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One had 19 so that's a pretty strong top.
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Nebraska is obviously the bottom feeders last year, but one thing to know of all of being a top conference, there is only four conferences that played out a slower paced and then last season.
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So if you're looking for the up and down basketball, this is not it.
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And 69% of the teams in conference play won their home games of nice Big 10 Not many upsets by the dogs.
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Yeah, yeah, this is definitely e Don't know if I would even call it, like, split in half.
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But if you were favorite and they thought you were the better team, you're you're probably gonna win NEP So for this season, right before we get into a ranking, Steve and I will give you how we think each team's gonna finish.
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Well, then well, then cover each 11 by one.
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Don't into are all first conference selections.
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A lot of good teams in here, I think there's a bunch of frauds, though where come March, none of them will be involved as a heavy contender or be in the elite eight or the Final Four.
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I think you have a bunch of 15 to 35 ranked teams in here, and I don't think you have anyone.
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That is it rise of right now that I see is a solidified top 10 team.
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I got.
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I got one or two that.
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I think I'll probably in there.
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All right, so then let's get into our rankings.
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So all right, all mine.
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All first, real quick.
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Stephen will give his.
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I got Nebraska staying at the bottom.
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Penn State at 13 Northwestern at 12 the Terps at 11.
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Produce 10 Minnesota at nine, Ohio State at eight.
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Michigan at seven, Rutgers at six.
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Michigan State at five, Iowa up. Four.
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Indiana at three, Illinois at two and Wisconsin at one.
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Alright, I got Northwestern coming in at last.
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Nebraska the 13.
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Penn State 12 Minnesota 11.
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Purdue 10 Maryland nine.
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Indiana eight, Ohio State seven.
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Rutgers six, Michigan five.
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Michigan State four, Wisconsin and Third, Illinois and second and Iowa.
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Number one.
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That's where we both had Illinois, too, but got a nice shake up.
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We both have different squads finishing up top.
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So no better way to start it off than with the team that came in last.
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You had Nebraska last in your rankings.
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Correct? No, it's Northwestern and last for May.
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All right, so I'm going.
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So we got two different squads that we think we're going to be at the bottom of the pile.
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Nebraska last year.
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I don't know what you saw that thinks this team's gonna improve off of a seven and 25 2 and 18 skid.
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The end last season.
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Man, I don't know if you're drinking the Kool Aid and thinking Hoiberg, former Bulls coach.
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Maybe you liked them so much or whatever, but they didn't want a game since January 7th.
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Last season.
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There, seven and eight at one point ended the season seven and 25.
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Maybe New Year, new them and they just gave up on the coach, kind of like Louisville football.
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But the coaches returning so I only don't wanna get too much into this team other than they played extremely fast at the 16th fastest pace everyday outpaced everyone, but it did not result in any winds.
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It resulted in a lot of drubbings in conference play.
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Just a purely ugly season.
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What do you like on this team that's going to get better? Um, I mean, e I do.
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I do like to Sean Burke.
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Um, I think I think Cramer Gallons coming out.
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I actually know he's sitting one.
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I mean, if Cramer Gallons was playing this year from pit, I really would have liked it.
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Um, actually, no Burkes out to South Alabama.
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****.
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I guess this team is kind of not looking great, but I mean, e think if Kam Mak comes back because he's still only in the transfer portal.
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If he comes back, that's gonna be big for them.
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And then if they can e I mean, it's gonna be tough.
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I didn't make the island's got this waiver that was confirmed.
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Okay, Um, well, I mean, so that's gonna be a big plus for them because he's a really talented guy, and then just they have some pieces coming in.
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Nobody, I really think is like Big 10. Ready.
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Really? Like they might have to be like Eduardo Andre, I think could be a somebody who they might have to start at center.
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But north, I only have them over Northwestern, even though neither of whom are basketball schools.
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I've seen Nebraska do more than I've ever seen Northwestern do, so I just This is just going off like the past.
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Like I'd rather Yeah, you're going off more of the further way past.
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I'm just going off the Terrible last season.
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I don't know how you lose that many games in a row In college basketball, you have to get one at some point.
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But maybe it's a good sign because they're gonna be starting an entirely new starting five, and their six man is probably gonna be a new guy in there as well.
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So Hoiberg is really getting rid of the guys.
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And no one's really returning from last season on Lee 21% of the roster.
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So the thing that they have to do is if they're gonna play it, this type of pace, they can't.
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I mean, they're going to get into the high scoring games, But you can't be allowing your opponent to get into the high eighties or nineties almost every game.
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That was their issue.
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Their offense wasn't nearly efficient enough to keep up with it on Lee shot the three at 31.8%.
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So when you're playing that quick, you're not being efficient.
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You're gonna end up losing your games.
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That's enough about Nebraska, who no high hopes for them next year.
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Next, we'll get into Northwestern who you have coming in last.
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I have them up there in 12th.
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So Northwestern eight and 23 3 and 17 coming in from last season.
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Coming into this year, they're returning 69% of the roster, and I want to hear why you have them in last first.
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Well, I don't I don't remember them being a very remember them being a very good shooting team anyway.
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And they also just They don't have anybody good coming in who can become that shooter.
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I know they like to play slower in the Big 10 anyway, but there isn't really, I mean, unless tie Berry just comes in and he decides to be a great player than I mean, They have young guys, but I don't I don't I don't think they have anybody. That's gonna be good.
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So what I was what I was trying to get to in Nebraska is they do have a lot of transfers coming in for, like Western Kentucky Pit Tennessee, who all just sit out last year.
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We're gonna play, so e it z with Northwestern.
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It's just I don't I don't know how well they develop their guys once they're there, so even if they start out well, I've never seen them get better.
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So I'm going to keep them at the bottom.
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Northwestern.
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Um, I just dislike, uh, Penn State, who I have in 13 and Nebraska, who I had in last just a lot worse than this Northwestern team.
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At least I can see some hopes with Miller, Klopp, Ryan Young and Buoy.
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Those are two guys or three guys that I think have more depth and more proven talent than what we currently have on this Nebraska squad.
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Um, Chase a Goob who's coming in from William and Mary.
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I think he's the guy that could probably make this team come up and finishing 12th where I think they are.
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Um, their defense is anything spectacular, their offenses in either they have no game changers on either side of the court.
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There's someone that's just gonna have to grind out and finish them top tough wins.
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Um, if I'm going to sit on Nebraska for how bad they did last year, um, Northwestern started one in 16 and conference and finished three and 18 so they didn't have too good of a role, either.
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Maybe these guys all being through it once I think gives them a little bit more, um, talent there.
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And I just think that the experience will pay off.
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They finish a little bit better than last season, but it's still nothing.
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Pretty, because I think the bottom four teams in the Big 10 or just kind of in their conference of their own, Yeah.
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I mean, who do you think is gonna be the passer for Northwestern now? Because I don't see anybody coming back on that team who averaged more than two or 2.5 assists.
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So for during the cyst, you might have to go with you.
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He's just gonna have to take a bigger role in the lineup and become the main distributor past them.
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Um, you can't ask a big guy even if they do play that in and out game a lot.
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Where that they're relying on the inside shot to create the three.
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So you could see maybe Ryan Young dish out some passes.
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But gains would be my other guy because Klopp isn't gonna be a pastor.
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So I think it's gonna be buoy or gains.
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And then a good day is just gonna be direct factor.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't see.
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I don't see a lot of I don't see a lot of guards who should be getting a lot of minutes outside of like, outside of Boise.
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And probably I'm probably outside of those three guys you mentioned.
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I don't know who else is really deserving a minutes in the backcourt? Nope.
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So we don't stick much time with the cats.
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Not gonna be a pretty season for Collinses squad.
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We'll get into Penn State next.
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So state.
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Last season, 21 10 11 and nine in conference man.
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Things were looking so high for them until Chris Chambers stepped down.
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Because it looks like you got caught up in some sticky situations there.
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I don't think they've named a new head coach yet, but for Penn State basketball to finally be, like, trending somewhere above the seller in the big, big tennis huge for them in the 2010 decade.
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There are better than average twice, and one of them was last season's.
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You saw a lot of signs of growth in them of becoming a full squad.
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Now they're gonna be doing it under an interim head coach.
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They had the 15th best defense in the 34th best offense last season.
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So state could have been a sneaky team in March.
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I think there, Ah, sweet 16 bound squad, potentially, but nothing further past that.
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I love Myron Jones on the squad.
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I can't be too high on him as just a pure score from the guard spot.
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Um, if he plays a point, that's fine with me.
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Sometimes he goes more of a combo guard, so I want the ball in his hands.
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I'm just concerned about this team's height and anyone else around him.
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Um, Penn State does have the ability.
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I think the easily jump Northwestern in my rankings.
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But, um, Penn Station is not a full squad without Myron Jones and Miles Dredd.
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Those are my two guys.
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I, like everyone else, is huge.
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Question, Mark.
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So what do you What do you think about the Nittany Lines.
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Yeah, it's kind of the same thing for me.
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I think God is gonna have to be more of like Interior Guard.
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Just with his size at 2 15 I think he's gonna have to get some of the rebounds because you can't really rely on trend.
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But Rick are John Harar or really Seth Lundy? Or maybe I don't know.
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Seth Lundy is not bad as a 66 fresher, and he could be a good swing die for them.
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And then, um, I think they're X factors, honestly, a Do you code transfer in volunteer Manuel.
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He's a 6 10 £225 center.
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He was like the 14th best juco transfer coming into the year, and I think if he can come in and solidify the middle for them, it will make it a lot easier for those other guys I mentioned before to just kind of rotate at the four and five.
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And then you keep those other guards and Lundy as your point guard through small forward.
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I mean, it's obviously not gonna be a good year, but I think it'll give them.
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They'll make.
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It will make them a little bit more competitive than Nebraska and Northwestern.
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So did you still have them down here with chambers? There was one of the reason why you dropped them is because Chambers has gone.
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I dropped him a little bit, cause Chambers has gone.
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I think I had him over was probably just I think I just had them in Minnesota.
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Flip.
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Really? Yeah.
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So I definitely had them Slade up more towards, like an eighth or seventh place team in the conference with him there.
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Um, the Jones and dread combos. Great.
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It's gonna be really strange that Penn State is gonna be relying on three freshmen to be their death.
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Um, Chambers did seem to bring in a decent class with Daily and Johnson, D. J.
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Gordon and Caleb Dorsey.
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Um, not other Big 10 teams might hang their hat on it, but Penn State's never really got the big recruits.
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Their chambers was really trying to change that momentum.
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So I know I've harped on him a lot, but I think Penn State is falling right back towards irrelevancy and basketball due to his loss.
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Um, I would work curious to see what more of the allegations comes out what he did if it was recruiting issues or anything like that.
00:18:00
But between Dresden Jones, that's where all you got.
00:18:03
The big men are really rough.
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I don't believe in harder Lundy at all.
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So given the quality of the big men that we're gonna get into in the Big 10 they're just gonna get eaten alive on the boards.
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And they're going to regress really hard from having a top 50 offense and defense last year and finished in the hundreds, I think.
00:18:22
Yeah, Yeah.
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I mean, there's something gonna be a big drop.
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Um, but I don't I don't know.
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I think the only guy that I would have a different opinion on is probably Lundy.
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Just because it was like Lamar Stevens was taking most of his minutes last year and even in just, like, limited playing time, he was averaging, like, five and three.
00:18:47
So I mean, I could see him being the guy that takes a step, but him taking a step is not gonna be enough.
00:18:53
Thio see them Not, like fall like a ****ing rock through the conference standings this year.
00:19:00
Yeah, I agree.
00:19:01
Who's the lowest team that I haven't talked about in your life so far.
00:19:05
I got Minnesota at 11.
00:19:07
Alright, I got Minnesota down at nine.
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That's a good spot to go to next.
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So Minnesota Last year.
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15 and 16 8 and 12 overall Conference Um, they're returning 52% of their roster from this season and just pulling it up.
00:19:27
So Minnesota? Their biggest issue last season? Waas I don't know.
00:19:33
Why do you have them so low? Because this team wasn't terrible.
00:19:36
Last year, their offense was solid.
00:19:38
Their defense was solid.
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They just struggled in Big 10 play, which is given with their they had a two relief.
00:19:46
So I'm assuming you really dislike or tour leaving.
00:19:48
But Marcus Car, I think he's one of the top guards in this entire conference, but other than there, I can see where it's rough.
00:19:56
Why are you so low on the Gophers? Um, yeah, because I mean, you got oh to relieving.
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You got Allah Han Dimier.
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Also, they know he's back.
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He's back. He's a redshirt senior this year.
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Um, but outside of him, it's the mirror.
00:20:16
And then Freeman is really your Onley height.
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I mean, you got Isaiah in in, but they were both fresh.
00:20:26
Him and Freeman were both freshmen.
00:20:27
That didn't really do anything.
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So I don't know.
00:20:32
I don't know if people I mean the fact that all there ranchers are immediately eligible is good.
00:20:41
But at the same time, I don't know if the continuity is there and they're gonna have to play big minutes up front to go with to go.
00:20:51
I mean, what they got scored.
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That's the one thing I'm convinced on.
00:20:57
This Minnesota team is one through five.
00:20:59
They can score what? Their starting five.
00:21:01
The bench gets a little rough, but they're starting five, I think, and go with some of the top teams, not bring them to defeat.
00:21:08
But they can hang with the ballers that they got.
00:21:11
Yeah.
00:21:12
I mean, I do kind of like Mashburn Junior, and I guess my extractors I don't know how well their transfer from Utah is gonna do this year.
00:21:23
I guess if I liked him or I'd probably move, I probably move Minnesota up a little bit, but not really sold on him.
00:21:31
So it's like you got car and Cal calendar culture.
00:21:40
I mean, I don't I don't There's nobody on this team that I hate, but they don't have a star like Otaru who's going to carry them.
00:21:51
I think Marcus Car is your star.
00:21:53
Uh, was he 15 points per game, five boards, 6 to 7 assists? I think he's just a stats Heat stuff for He's someone that is tough to guard.
00:22:04
The offense is obviously going to roll through him.
00:22:07
So if he gets tough, I think gouaches, you're correct pick and he's gonna be able to score off the wing 10 points for his career so far.
00:22:16
Um, if he puts up those numbers that Minnesota, I think they'll be good because I think cargoes for almost close to 20 a game next year.
00:22:23
He's just gonna be a name that shoots up the draft boards.
00:22:26
I think not many people have stock in him.
00:22:29
I can put mine behind car easily because I think he's someone that can win you a game and carry a team.
00:22:35
But given the Big 10 you're not gonna be able to do it for the full conference schedule.
00:22:39
So that's why I have them down at nine, like the pieces that they have.
00:22:43
But this just isn't three year to be competitive yet in the conference.
00:22:49
I mean, I mean, GAC really has to be good because they also lose Peyton Willis, who transferred, and then I don't know if there's just a lot of moving parts where at a place like Minnesota, I don't think they deal very well with trying to bring a lot of new guys in.
00:23:11
And then a lot of losing a lot of guys from the team like there's teams who are equipped to do that, like the Kentucky's.
00:23:16
And, like the blue Bloods, I don't see.
00:23:17
Minnesota is one of those teams No faith in Rich Pitino yet? No.
00:23:23
If your last name is Pitino, I have no faith in you anyway.
00:23:25
But that's besides the point.
00:23:27
All right, let's get into the Terps next of Maryland.
00:23:31
Last season, 24 7 14 and six, Maryland basketball was back.
00:23:37
I don't think it's back for back to back seasons.
00:23:40
I have them finishing down in 11th.
00:23:42
They're returning 51% of their roster.
00:23:46
They're losing Jaylin Smith coming into this season, and I think he was the biggest reason why they're everything that they were last year.
00:23:54
Um, Con Conlan Jr is a huge losses.
00:23:58
Well, so, um, two guys were going out.
00:24:01
That was majority of the production last year.
00:24:04
I don't know if you're sold in Wiggins, but the last name Wiggins might be a little stale to me.
00:24:09
Just hasn't proven it yet with anyone.
00:24:11
That last name butt here no size that you're gonna be any bit scare of your just gonna get eaten alive by the teams.
00:24:19
We're gonna talk about guard play is gonna be questionable.
00:24:22
Docker.
00:24:23
You probably have a good scouting report on him, but he's going to be the guy that's gonna be able to have to handle that Big 10 pressure in the slower tempo to get them into contention.
00:24:34
And I don't see that happening and happening for them this year.
00:24:39
Uh, yeah.
00:24:41
I mean, with this team, Um, I do like that.
00:24:45
They got a Jerry's Hamilton.
00:24:47
He got his immediate eligibility coming in from Boston College and he got Galen Smith 69 center coming in from Alabama.
00:24:57
And the guy I've been getting really sold on in the off season is Dante Scott.
00:25:05
I think he's going to come in and be he's gonna come in and be that guy.
00:25:09
That's not He's maybe not necessarily gonna play center.
00:25:13
But he's gonna be that bully.
00:25:15
Kind of like power forward.
00:25:18
Small forward combo.
00:25:20
That can just be a big time.
00:25:23
Kind of just like effort, rebounder.
00:25:26
And then I think Mukai Mitchell just finally being able to play since he was stuck behind Jaylin Smith.
00:25:33
I think he's gonna have a break out season because he was the top 70 guy last year at 6.
00:25:38
10 to 35 I think he's gonna have a good season.
00:25:43
Um, wait.
00:25:46
****.
00:25:47
What? He left. Unfortunate.
00:25:50
Oh, no different guy. Jesus Christ.
00:25:53
The names on this team are way too close.
00:25:54
Where you got Michael Mitchell? And like I Mitchell? Yeah.
00:26:00
Um, but, I mean, you got Mitchell.
00:26:04
You got choule.
00:26:07
Mariel a 7 to 2. 30.
00:26:11
gonna be sop****re, another guy in the top 100 from last year.
00:26:14
You pair them with more selling wiggins up top, and then you got Erica, Ella and Dante Scott.
00:26:22
I really like what this team is bringing back.
00:26:25
They were just They were just so top heavy with Cowen and Smith.
00:26:31
The other guys didn't get as much of a chance to produce e think they're going to be much more well rounded team this year.
00:26:37
So last season they finished with the 24th best offense in the country.
00:26:42
You still think it finishes within like 10 give or take give you 35 because I think the loss of those two, unless they are just that much more well rounded.
00:26:52
I think they fall off past 50 and their defense is gonna be solid.
00:26:58
But their offense is what just holds them back from being like a 500 team and conference.
00:27:03
I think they'll I think they'll be sitting somewhere around 60 for offense.
00:27:08
And if they're sitting around 60 for offense, I think they'll be sitting.
00:27:12
Where do I have them? I think they'll be sitting just below the top half of the Big 10.
00:27:19
What place do you have? Maryland.
00:27:20
And I have them in 11th.
00:27:21
Do you have them? And I haven't.
00:27:23
I have a midnight Alright, so not too far off there.
00:27:27
I mean, just to go to score game on the line.
00:27:32
It's going toe Wiggins his hands and it's gonna be his ear to prove it.
00:27:36
Um, past that you have you have viable scores.
00:27:40
No one scares me too often.
00:27:42
So maybe Dockery could be a game changing point guard for the Terps because they always seem to have a pesky one.
00:27:49
Yeah, I don't know.
00:27:50
This is This is just really where I really like more.
00:27:53
Sell another.
00:27:55
I mean, they do still have a lot of them in Maryland.
00:27:57
He was another top 100 guy, and he's coming into a senior year.
00:28:01
I think he's gonna be the guy who has the ball a lot at the end of games.
00:28:06
Just trusting that senior guard.
00:28:10
Yep.
00:28:11
So let's get into the next squad.
00:28:13
Let's go into Purdue.
00:28:14
I think we both have them relatively low.
00:28:17
Um, 16 and 15 last year, nine and 11.
00:28:20
Overall, the Boilermakers.
00:28:23
They are returning 59% of their roster.
00:28:27
Um, is Purdue basketball gonna be back after the small blimp that they had, um, last season? Not usually.
00:28:35
Where the Boilermaker basketball is wasn't too far, but they're still above conference average, but they're used to being one of the dominant forces in there.
00:28:44
Uh, painter squad just couldn't get it done at the end of the day.
00:28:48
Is the worst way to put it, but, um, coming up in close games and one score games, they went.
00:28:55
Where is that? They went three and five, so you usually see produce Squad not finished below 500.
00:29:00
They had the 12th best defense, 47th best offense in the nation last year.
00:29:06
So it's that strange.
00:29:07
That's the 16 and 15 record.
00:29:09
But when you lose 11 conference games, that's how you finished down there.
00:29:13
What do you have on the outlook for this squad, where I think scoring is scarce this season? Uh, yeah, I don't see a ton of scoring coming back, but I think as long as you still got I mean, I think Tribunal Williams can hold it down upfront.
00:29:34
If he's still there, he is.
00:29:36
Okay, so he's good.
00:29:39
What I've been surprised at most is how High produced Ben on Zach et.
00:29:48
There he was, only he was ranks like Did you see the Rothstein tweet today? Yeah, he was like 430th, but they already think he's a better rebounder than Isaac Haas Waas.
00:30:01
So if you bring in a 73 guy who's just in there to rebound, it's gonna be tough on both ends of the court, and then they bring in to top 100 guards and Jade and Ivy and Ethan Morton.
00:30:13
I think it will be a good mix of a good mix of like upperclassmen and youth with, Like Eric Hunter Jr.
00:30:22
Um, so you got every Hunter Jr You got Sasha Stepanovich and Isaiah Thompson all coming back, Um, and then you have travel on Williams is just the bruiser down low and then ET as the height with those two freshmen guards.
00:30:43
I think I think a lot of the freshmen are still a little ways away, and none of those other guys I talked about They're gonna be seniors this year.
00:30:50
So I think it'll probably another around 500 season and then you'll see Purdue really be back next year.
00:30:57
So you think the culture and everything is good there with Harms in Eastern's transfer out, that was just two guys unhappy.
00:31:04
Or do you think there's more shaken up at Purdue? Um, no.
00:31:09
I think Harms was always a guy who was never really happy at Purdue because produce always had a lot of big guys and I think harms thought he should have done more than he was allowed to dio.
00:31:20
So I think that's why he left.
00:31:21
And then Eastern Eastern was the same way, like he was a 67 He was.
00:31:29
He was their only top 100 recruit on the roster last year, but he was just so far behind Williams and they played the same position I think they just wanted.
00:31:39
I think he wanted to find something new because he saw Williams is a year younger than him.
00:31:45
So he's not getting the playing time this year, either.
00:31:48
I think I think they were both just guys who wanted Thio raise whatever draft stock they could have and go to somewhere where they'd be featured more.
00:31:57
Yeah, and that's a good way to put it, because Purdue they played at the 333rd slowest tempo.
00:32:04
They're gonna work the ball around on offense.
00:32:06
It's not gonna be pretty, um, their games e don't want to say they look like high school, but they're going to be a A run play, probably at least 15 to 25 seconds off the shot clock.
00:32:17
Every time Purdue basketball, they're going to grind you out and try to beat you.
00:32:21
Um, that's plays into Trevi in Williams.
00:32:24
His hands.
00:32:25
I think Eric Hunter is gonna be one of their breakthrough players.
00:32:28
If this team I have them finishing at 10th, if they want to break into around seventh or eighth, I think it's because Williams just goes off and Hunter Jr is just a compliment.
00:32:38
Memory peace.
00:32:39
Because there's no one else really on this roster that I liked.
00:32:43
I can't say I've watched much of Ivy or Maurin tape.
00:32:46
But if these two freshmen can step up and give them solid guards because I'm not sold on Thompson, are Stefan of it yet? So that's where if Ivy Maurin eventually beat them out, then I might, like, just team a little bit more.
00:33:00
Yeah.
00:33:03
Uh, do you have Ohio State? Pretty low? Yeah, I have them at eighth.
00:33:08
So it's the next squad I was gonna jump to. Yeah.
00:33:11
All right.
00:33:12
Where do you have them? At seventh.
00:33:16
All right, well, let's get to the Buckeyes.
00:33:19
So Ohio State last season, 21 10 11 and nine.
00:33:23
Steven, I know you're a huge fan of Ohio State basketball and think they're a very solid program.
00:33:29
Um, the returning 47% of the roster.
00:33:33
And Steven, I know this one might upset you a little bit, but your favorite publication hasn't run entire than UConn coming into this year.
00:33:42
Think there will be a better team than them? Um, they have transfers.
00:33:48
They're going to make a big impact in there.
00:33:50
They're losing Caleb Lesson, who is probably their heart and soul.
00:33:54
The team.
00:33:55
So in Big 10 play, this team is extremely unpredictable.
00:34:00
Uh, their top score might be either the transfers they have coming in.
00:34:06
So an offense that I don't want to call it questionable because it's gonna be top 50.
00:34:13
The defense should still be there.
00:34:15
So that's where I think they could be on the cups oven 18 1 season.
00:34:19
But I'm not gonna be too impressed by the squad.
00:34:23
I mean, I wouldn't call their Big 10 play unpredictable.
00:34:25
I would just call it bad e if I'm if I'm betting games, I'm fading Ohio State Every time they have to play a conference game, they never had to see any Big 10 team.
00:34:36
They'd be good, but that's that's not what they get to deal with.
00:34:40
So they're bad and then you lose.
00:34:44
Uh, Caleb Weston, you lose Luther Mohammed, you lose Deejay carton.
00:34:48
All three of those guys are Big guy e mean all three of those guys should have been big guys for them.
00:34:55
You bring in Able Porter from Utah State.
00:35:00
I've watched Able Porter play a lot of basketball against Boise State.
00:35:05
He's not.
00:35:07
He's not a great player.
00:35:08
I barely call him a good player.
00:35:10
I don't He's not gonna make a huge impact there, Um, and then Seth Towns coming in from Harvard.
00:35:20
I mean, I do kind of like South towns, but this is kind of like what we said about some of those guys from Yale.
00:35:29
It's like if they're coming from the Ivy League to the Big 10 is a tough transition.
00:35:36
So they're leaning on what C.
00:35:38
J.
00:35:39
Walker, Dwayne Washington and E. J. Liddell.
00:35:43
Pretty much I don't see.
00:35:48
This is really a team where I don't see any size.
00:35:50
It's like Kyle Young, uh, Ibrahima Diallo.
00:35:56
And I mean, they got Zed Key coming in as a freshman, and he was running to the top 1 50.
00:36:03
But he's a 67 £215 center that that that doesn't really play in the big time.
00:36:12
So I'm definitely not that sold on Ohio State.
00:36:16
So the area where I have the biggest concern with Ohio State is they shot 37% from three last season, 22nd best clip in the nation.
00:36:25
They're losing Wesson both lessons.
00:36:28
Who attempted their most threes for last season? Both shot 42% respectively.
00:36:34
So, um, when the offense got stagnant, they started shooting the threes.
00:36:39
They fell for Ohio State.
00:36:41
That's where.
00:36:42
Maybe that's I think.
00:36:43
Unpredictable is better, because if you faded them, they went 11 and nine and Conference, so you might have lost a little change there.
00:36:50
Maybe if you played the money dog underline, you probably would have cashed out there more because they probably messed up as the big favorites.
00:36:57
But losing your constant three production and the two guys who scored the most for you, which catapulted them last season, The guys that they have on the roster can still shoot it.
00:37:07
Not all of them had at least half of the attempts that they had, but that's because you want the Western shooting the three.
00:37:12
So thes guys like Suing and Walker and Young and even Washington Jr.
00:37:18
They're gonna have to step into that three roll call.
00:37:21
Young probably won't be attempting that many just because he's a taller guy.
00:37:24
But, yeah, the scoring will probably be there.
00:37:27
I think suing might be their top guy.
00:37:30
Um, it's a roster that I don't think is terrible, but you're relying on the cow player.
00:37:37
A cow transfer to be your top scores.
00:37:39
That's where it's a little bit more concerning for May.
00:37:44
Yeah, I mean, who do you think is playing center for them to start the year? Do you think it's Diallo, Gaffney or Young? It's probably Kyle, Young and Towns.
00:37:56
It's the first guy off the bench.
00:38:01
Oh, yeah, I I don't know.
00:38:04
I think if you're going off like I mean, I really think it it should be Gaffney.
00:38:13
I don't know what he wasn't doing well last year to not get minutes, but he seems like he has the most like raw talent in that group of forwards because he was 47th in the 2019 rankings and he's also 69 So he's got height on everybody except the alot.
00:38:33
So he's got the height and he has the he Well, he had the hip coming out of high school, so I don't know what was going wrong, but something obviously went wrong for him to not have bigger minutes last year.
00:38:48
Yeah, everything that I'm looking at is just kind of not even projecting him to get that many minutes next season, either.
00:38:54
So maybe you'll have to dive into that one and let us know what you find on the isn't his name.
00:38:59
Alonso Gaffney? Yeah, Alonso Gaffney.
00:39:03
Alright, So let's get to the squad, Stephen, that I have in seventh on that.
00:39:09
I don't remember if the top of my head where you have Michigan but for John Howard side, I'm not liking their chances this year.
00:39:17
In 19 and 12 last season, 10 and 10 returning 50% of their roster.
00:39:23
I could be a little too low of Michigan, but I mean getting livers back.
00:39:30
It's the biggest thing they got for them.
00:39:32
Wagner's a solid piece.
00:39:34
This is a team that just waste huge.
00:39:35
Davis don't care who you put out there they have.
00:39:38
I think three guys or four guys air over 6 ft seven.
00:39:42
That air starting.
00:39:43
They have one guy off the bench that's gonna be 7 ft one.
00:39:47
So there are a huge roster.
00:39:49
Um, they're a team last season that was able to do you up and play offense efficiently.
00:39:55
That's what got them to 19 and 12.
00:39:57
But once again, the Big 10 just kind of ate them alive, made you on how it learns with with it this year.
00:40:03
But getting livers back from the draft was huge because the pairing of livers and Wagner's is kind of pretty tough to go against, especially when you have other guys in the weight.
00:40:16
I passed them that are just as good.
00:40:18
I just don't know.
00:40:19
For some reason, this Michigan team has all the hype to be a top 15 team.
00:40:23
I'm just not sold on the Wolverines E.
00:40:28
Yeah, I mean, I like a lot of what they have coming back because Wagner's he was.
00:40:35
He was really good as a freshman at like 11.
00:40:38
5 in like 5.
00:40:39
5 as a freshman.
00:40:42
Um, he's a good three point shooter so he can stretch the floor if you put him at four or, I mean same thing, even if you put him at three and then I like livers.
00:40:52
I think Eli Brooks can be a good point guard.
00:40:56
Um, but then you still got do Julius and Brandon Johns Jr coming back, who could play back up Garden forward rolls for them and then, even though they lost Isaiah Todd, which would have been a massive signing for them? You still have Hunter ****inson, who is gonna be a good backup center, or maybe even potential starting center by the end of the year.
00:41:21
Um, I'm a fan of Zeb Jackson as a backup guard, and then Terrence Williams is just He's good enough to play somewhere off the bench.
00:41:32
Um, and if you add those guys in as the three guys getting minutes behind Johns Jr.
00:41:42
Then it kind of rounds out a pretty decent lineup.
00:41:46
I think it'll be a lineup that has slight improvement over last year.
00:41:50
You have them in Where'd you say seventh? Yeah, I still think they make the tournament.
00:41:54
Just give it a Big 10 makes it.
00:41:58
But that's why I think they finished.
00:42:00
I have them up a little bit higher in fifth, but I don't see them competing with those top three teams.
00:42:07
I do see them beating up on most of the teams you already talked about.
00:42:14
Yeah, that's where I think Juwan Howard Just gonna take it one more year.
00:42:19
I just am not sold in them in the Big 10 play.
00:42:22
Um, they have the guys have been through it.
00:42:24
So maybe than seniority has to come through over the coaching there because you got Phil Martelli on the bench with Joe on there, so I might not be the best combination.
00:42:34
But Livers and Wagner, they could win you any game together.
00:42:38
So might be describing them a little too little buggers.
00:42:41
Stick to my guns and keep them in seventh.
00:42:44
Let's go to the squad.
00:42:46
I got finishing in six, and that's Rutgers.
00:42:49
Eso Rutgers.
00:42:51
Last season they went 20 and 11 11 and nine and Conference.
00:42:55
They're returning 82% of their roster, so almost everybody is coming back.
00:43:02
You gotta shout out use anytime you talk about Rutgers because you know he'll go on Iran.
00:43:06
Harper Junior Tangent.
00:43:08
Um, easily the heart and the soul of the team.
00:43:10
You got Geo Baker and Jacob Young around them.
00:43:13
Maybe they don't have the solid five that Michigan has.
00:43:17
But those three pieces I like a lot.
00:43:20
I think these guys air sneaky team in the Big 10.
00:43:24
Maybe they're coming to get their respect back.
00:43:26
Um, depth is extremely questionable with this team, but they're just going to run their top 5 to 6 guys out there.
00:43:35
And I think you can hang with most of the teams in the Big 10.
00:43:38
Maybe not with one and two, but enough Thio get them above 500 in Big 10 play.
00:43:45
I don't know when.
00:43:46
The last time they went back to back seasons over 500 big 10 Definitely not since 2000 and nine.
00:43:56
Yeah.
00:43:59
I mean, I'm I'm kind of a fan of this team.
00:44:03
I mean, I mean Goose and I already went over this.
00:44:07
I mean, I got the better team in my state than he has in his state, but I don't I don't dislike this team.
00:44:13
I think Miles Johnson will be good in the middle for them.
00:44:16
You bring in, you bring in a good freshman with Cliff All Marui.
00:44:22
Um, he's another center who I don't know.
00:44:26
Maybe you could just go big and run him and Miles Johnson together because you don't really have a true power forward on the team.
00:44:34
Um, but yeah.
00:44:36
I mean, everybody really likes Geo Baker.
00:44:40
I don't think I'm I don't think I'm as sold on him as a lot of people are, but, I mean, you got a backcourt that's been doing it together for a while.
00:44:48
Uh, Jacob Young should be all right, but, I mean, you're right after their starting five.
00:44:55
Really? The bench is a little bit too shaky for me toe.
00:45:01
Have them finishing really in contention for the Big 10.
00:45:05
I just think it's that defense when you're returning 82% of the guys that had a top 10 defense in the nation last year and even granted that they were one of the worst 33 point shooting teams in the nation.
00:45:18
So that's where if they're able to pull it off last season, I think they ride and build off this positive momentum.
00:45:25
Not many new pieces coming in.
00:45:27
Um, they're kind of like the Sixers.
00:45:30
I believe they're They're Jim's called the Rack.
00:45:34
I think they won more than 15 games and only had one loss.
00:45:38
But outside of it is where they took majority of their losses.
00:45:42
So I think they had double digit losses outside of home.
00:45:46
So that's where teams got to get a little bit more consistent.
00:45:49
But we riding that home court mojo, you got the top 10 defense in the nation.
00:45:54
I'm going to ride this Rutgers team to finish in six you don't want.
00:45:59
You don't want to make the comparison to Philly because if you make the comparison to the 70 Sixers, they'll get bounced in the first round of NC double A tournament, maybe the round of 32 at best.
00:46:08
You don't you don't wanna put that on records.
00:46:11
I think Rutgers fans would be happy to make the 20.
00:46:15
Given this where the state of the program has been for a while.
00:46:19
Just give them the taste.
00:46:20
That's true.
00:46:22
Who's the next lowest squad that you got? E.
00:46:27
I still haven't heard anything from Indiana yet.
00:46:30
Yeah, I have them up at three.
00:46:31
Where do you have them at? I haven't met eight, but if you want to do Michigan State next week, a new Michigan State you.
00:46:37
I'll write.
00:46:38
I'll write off what they did last season.
00:46:40
Then I'll let you get in tow.
00:46:42
I you and why you have them down in eighth, then I'll rebuttal.
00:46:45
Why have them up in third? So 20 and 12 last season? Nine and 11 overall returning 65% of their guys talk to users.
00:46:55
Basketball to May.
00:46:58
Everybody really likes Tracey Jackson Davis, and you could see why.
00:47:04
But outside of him and Christian Lander, there's, I mean, maybe maybe you see some of Jordan Geronimo, but outside of that you bring in a lot of guys who all play kind of anywhere from a point guard to small forward and e.
00:47:28
Guess people kind of like Gobi Brunk, But he's always in foul trouble.
00:47:32
So great writer.
00:47:36
So I'm not really sold on him.
00:47:38
And then I guess it kind of all comes down to What's Justin Smith going to Dio and then Rob fantasy? Everybody's always talking about Rob fantasy, and then he's just always inconsistent.
00:47:50
So you got you have a highly, You have the highly touted guy in Jerome Hunter who didn't do much last year as a freshman.
00:48:00
Um, a lot of their guys coming back that they like, are playing the same positions as their incoming freshmen.
00:48:10
Like Like I mean, Fancy or Durham are probably gonna be playing in the backcourt.
00:48:19
So then it's like his land are gonna be the backup, or is he going to start? And I I don't know.
00:48:29
I don't I'm not completely sold on anybody except Jackson Davis.
00:48:35
And if I'm gonna have a team up in the top five, I need to be so, like, completely sold on more than one guy on your team.
00:48:46
You know what? Jackson Davis? I think everyone's just expecting him to take that next step as a sop****re.
00:48:52
Uh, what do you have 13 points per game last season or something around those lines? I think they're expecting him to jump it up to 17 to 18.
00:49:00
Um, Archie Miller, for some reason, always gets good reviews and always is highly.
00:49:06
His teams always seem to be highly ranked in the standings.
00:49:09
Fourth season there last season was finally, I guess, a decent one for his squad since he took over.
00:49:18
Not the biggest Archie fan there is.
00:49:20
But, um, it's gonna be Durham.
00:49:22
I think that lander could potentially push him out of that starting role or start push fantasy out.
00:49:30
And then I think the Lander Durham combo is a lot more deadly than that one is, um, bronc.
00:49:37
I think he's a good center.
00:49:38
I think he is top six centers in the conference, if not higher.
00:49:45
So that's where I think they can handle the guard quality they can hang.
00:49:50
Handle the big man, uh, depth in there.
00:49:53
So that's where Jackson Davis.
00:49:55
I think Archie is just gonna feed him and feed him.
00:49:57
And if he gets hot, I think there's not much that that can stop him.
00:50:01
So I'm writing the one man show here.
00:50:03
So that's why I think they finish up in third.
00:50:05
And I think he just cooks.
00:50:16
I think care of me.
00:50:18
Oh, no **** eso, I forgot.
00:50:22
Justin Smith is actually go.
00:50:24
He's out, he's going to Arkansas and then you got the messy Anderson.
00:50:29
There are other kind of big Guy is also out.
00:50:33
He's going to Loyola.
00:50:37
He's going toe loyal in Chicago, so that means that your Onley size on the team is Ah, you're only size on the team.
00:50:46
Is Jackson Davis and Brunk, and I'm never gonna be sold on Brunk because I think he's still careless player going into his senior year like the like, the games I watched him play when he played UConn and some of their other games in the Big 10.
00:51:00
He always seemed to be in foul trouble.
00:51:02
And if he's always in foul trouble, obviously, Jackson Davis is a stud, but he can't be a like it's not gonna matter how much he puts up if your power forwards like some 65 or 6 60 getting absolutely bodied by other power forwards.
00:51:16
Yeah, that's where Race Thomas or Thompson might have to take a huge step for this team next year, which is very concerning to say, if you want him to be a solid piece in the Big 10 competing team, yeah, so that's that's why I have them down a little bit lower because you made a strength in your backcourt just more of a strength of the guys you signed.
00:51:42
Bye.
00:51:43
You can't expect Jackson Davis to do the job of two guys if Brunk gets in foul trouble.
00:51:51
Yep, one area that you can nitpick there with your guards is the assist rate 200 overall, Not something you want to see.
00:51:59
That's where you're getting a lot of eso ball.
00:52:01
Think we could see a lot more this year? Just feeding Jackson and the post? Yeah, alright, So let's get to Michigan State next.
00:52:10
I got them at fifth.
00:52:12
Steven has them.
00:52:14
I believe that Fifth as well.
00:52:15
We got four teams left after these guys.
00:52:19
So this parties, they went 22 9, 14 and six in conference.
00:52:24
They're returning 53% of their roster.
00:52:27
Um, usually betting against the down here against Michigan State isn't something that usually pays off too well.
00:52:34
So Stephen and I were putting our necks out there.
00:52:36
The last really bad season was probably 2017 in recent years.
00:52:41
Um, they're losing precious Winston, which has just been the face of the teen.
00:52:48
Um, last year they couldn't force any turnovers on defense.
00:52:52
They still finished with the top 15 top 15 offense.
00:52:56
Um, the loss of Winston and Xavier Tillman has gone as well.
00:53:01
You're losing your to hugest pieces from last year.
00:53:04
I are you writing for a Julie Hauser and Aaron Henry show? Does that convince you that they're going to be a top three team in the Big 10.
00:53:13
That's where I start to find a decent amount of the holes in the team.
00:53:18
Um, Rocket Watts is basically gonna be want their starting point.
00:53:22
Maybe Langford.
00:53:23
If he comes back, I believe he's projected Thio.
00:53:27
Hey, might be their top score.
00:53:28
So a lot of question marks next season for Michigan State team? Um, no.
00:53:34
Big, I would say No huge freshman coming in.
00:53:37
CS Co is a nice piece, but I think you might get buried down there depth chart a little bit.
00:53:42
Why don't you like Sparky's? Um uhh.
00:53:48
I don't.
00:53:49
I mean, obviously, I don't like them to do as much as they did last year, but I do like Sissoko to come in and just, uh, be one of like, I mean, I think he could come in and be higher than, like, Julius Marvel.
00:54:03
Uh, Thomas Kisser.
00:54:05
Um, yeah, I think he's higher than them.
00:54:08
I think he's the eighth man on their 8th and 9th man on their routine.
00:54:13
Yeah, but I I think outside of ah, I think outside of like Bingham and Hauser, I think he should be the I think he should be the third big man in the rotation.
00:54:31
So I think he should be the first big man off the bench.
00:54:34
And then what happened allowing for last year? Was he just injured? Yep.
00:54:40
So, yeah, him coming back to me big.
00:54:42
I really like rocket lots.
00:54:44
Having a break out season.
00:54:46
Since he doesn't have to play behind caches Winston anymore, he could just be the point guard.
00:54:52
So you have him as a point guard, Aaron Henry as you're shooting guard.
00:54:57
And then I like, um mhm.
00:55:01
I like a J Hoger to be one of their first guys off the bench.
00:55:05
Kind of doing a Rocket Watts did last year.
00:55:08
And then you start good guys in Malik Hall and, uh, Foster lawyer who can just shoots threes.
00:55:16
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:18
I mean, I find out that I'll take the floor spacing all the time.
00:55:23
Um, but you have a lot of guys in between that 6626 11 area, and then you have the talented backcourt.
00:55:32
I just think there's I just think that three teams I have higher than them, I'll bring back Mawr.
00:55:39
Good experience than Michigan State has.
00:55:43
Yep.
00:55:44
And that's where I mean, you're just It's never good to feed.
00:55:51
And is the squatter think that they're not going to come in highly rate it But your two leading scorers coming into this season, if you're not going to consider Aaron Henry, there is gonna be Langford back from injury in a market transfer.
00:56:04
So those were the top two guys you're gonna rely on to get your production.
00:56:08
That just sounds a little concerning for me in the Big 10 but Langford just has a pure ability to get there.
00:56:15
Um, I'll jump on the Rocket watch bandwagon with you, so you don't have to convince me.
00:56:20
Otherwise, he's gonna be a solid guard, its current Great to see him get full run there at point.
00:56:25
With the cash in Weston gone, I don't think he's gonna be as good as him.
00:56:28
But he's gonna be perfect as a point guard.
00:56:31
That does exactly what he needs him to dio.
00:56:34
Who do you think the assist guy is? Is a watch or is it someone else in this lineup because they don't really like to pass the ball? No, not really.
00:56:42
I think it's gonna be a mix of Henry.
00:56:47
And I mean, I think, honestly, it'll be more mixed of Henry and whole guard if he's running points off the bench because lawyers, because lawyers always gonna just be a spot up guy, he's not gonna be passing the ball that much.
00:57:05
Um, Watts is looking to score first, so I mean, it might be lots e.
00:57:12
I think it has to be, because if Winston could score and he was all of their assists last year, so I think is that is gonna force Watts to put that into his ****nal.
00:57:22
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
00:57:23
Henry was already at three assists a game last year.
00:57:26
I think he could take a step up with Winston gone and then just Langford as a redshirt senior, he know he knows when to make the past.
00:57:39
It doesn't have to be a a ton of assist every game, but it's gonna be the crucial assist when they need them.
00:57:47
It was gonna help him.
00:57:51
Yep.
00:57:52
So I think this team is definitely making it the march, but I think they're gonna be huge frauds in March.
00:57:57
So that's my bigger take from this pod.
00:58:00
You had Iowa finishing a number one, Correct.
00:58:03
Yeah.
00:58:04
Alright.
00:58:05
So I got a different squad there.
00:58:06
So let's jump to Illinois, who we both think is gonna finish, too.
00:58:11
And then we'll both get into why we think our squad from the Big 10 is gonna finish it first.
00:58:17
So the line I last season 21 10 13 and seven overall in conference to bring back 68% of their roster.
00:58:28
Huge get back in the sumo and ****burn.
00:58:31
Huge for the roster if only one of those guys were back.
00:58:36
I think we both easily have them as the six or 17.
00:58:39
Having both of them back is huge.
00:58:42
Maybe the best, not the best 112 man punch into conference, but top three there, those two run the team.
00:58:50
Trent Fraser is another nice piece there.
00:58:53
So no one coming in that they're gonna be relying on to other than Adam Miller.
00:58:58
So I'm gonna let you get into their but Underwood squad.
00:59:02
We I think they finished right around the same record from last season 13 and seven, and conference is good for this Align.
00:59:08
I've squad I losing Phillies is probably their biggest piece, but they got guys on the roster that can, whether that I'm expecting a huge year out of the line, I yeah, I wanna put.
00:59:22
I wanted to put Illinois first so bad, but I haven't seen Illinois be really good outside of last year that I don't trust myself.
00:59:33
Toe put them one to start the year, even though I think that's where they should finish at the end of the year.
00:59:38
But, I mean, the Sumo and Coburn are a lethal 12 combo.
00:59:43
And then you just throw in Fraser, Alan Griffin and, uh, But John is really sure.
00:59:52
I'll go with that, like all those guys have proven that they can be really good.
00:59:58
And then you get I mean, they have talented players coming in or actually, ****, no, Alan Griffin is gone.
01:00:06
Forgot that he's at Syracuse now.
01:00:09
What a terrible decision by him, Um, but you got Adam Miller and Andre Curbelo, who I think both deserve to play, even though it's it's not gonna be starting, but they both deserve minutes, and then Coleman Hawkins is another guy who should who should probably be the first or second forward off the bench if they wanna put them in behind Jermaine Hamlin after Georgie and Coburn.
01:00:45
But, I mean, this this team just has so much talent up and down the roster that I mean, people still didn't hate them, even if they didn't have the sumo and Coburn coming back.
01:00:57
So bringing both those guys back, I think, makes them probably like I definitely think there should be top 15 but I think they could finish somewhere inside the top 10 this year.
01:01:09
Yeah, the top 10 is just gonna be a little tough for me to get them there yet.
01:01:14
Um, I think the one piece that could be is Granderson the Holy Cross transfer.
01:01:21
If he could be that score and spark plug off the bench.
01:01:24
I think this team is well rounded out to make a long run.
01:01:28
I think they're definitely a top 25 team.
01:01:31
I just think they hang closer to 20 to 25.
01:01:34
And if this is the second overall team I have raided in the conference and I think they're this low, then that's why I think this conference.
01:01:41
I'm just look more bullish on than other people.
01:01:45
Um Yeah, Well, last great season they had was 2000 and 11 past then and last season.
01:01:51
They're very much under Big 10 average.
01:01:54
So Underwood has done nice pieces to turn this around.
01:01:57
Um, he's bringing in south pieces that we saw UConn maybe not develop our Illinois not developed the talent that they're bringing in.
01:02:05
E don't know why that went there.
01:02:07
Um, but now they're bringing in the solid freshman.
01:02:10
They're retaining them for one more season afterwards.
01:02:13
I think this is a season where if everything goes right, they could make a nice run.
01:02:19
They just cannot shoot the three whatsoever.
01:02:22
Alan Griffin was there on Lee Shooter That shot it above 30% last season.
01:02:29
So very one dimensional where they want to go.
01:02:32
They shot 30.
01:02:33
3 last season.
01:02:35
They were the 313th overall rated team there.
01:02:38
So that's one area that they define a reliable shooter and maybe that Adam Miller coming in for them.
01:02:45
I think that could be both our guards coming in.
01:02:47
I think that could be Curbelo and Miller.
01:02:50
I think they can both shoot the three at a high enough clip that would just well round them off for a nice, long run.
01:02:58
So let's get into the squad that I think's going coming in first and I'm going with the Badgers.
01:03:03
So Wisconsin Last season, 21 10 14 and six overall, as long as what's going on with the football team doesn't spread into the basketball team.
01:03:13
I think this is the top team in the conference next year.
01:03:17
Um, they are returning.
01:03:21
Let's see, Yes, 79% of the roster.
01:03:24
Uh, tryst is filthy along with Rivers is nice.
01:03:29
Um e don't know Porter or Potter.
01:03:33
He's the big piece that scares me of thinking that they could make it run deep in March because Potter good, big man, Big 10 Serviceable.
01:03:44
I don't know.
01:03:45
He His play just scares me a lot.
01:03:47
Top 25 defense from last season.
01:03:50
They ended the season on a hot roll, winning seven in a row, so I'm riding off the hot streak that they had their basically bringing back everyone who contributed last season.
01:04:00
Everyone's gonna be seniors.
01:04:02
This is where I think everything just comes together for this whisk.
01:04:06
Oh squad and Greg Guard finally gets up to the top of the Big 10? Um, yeah.
01:04:15
I mean, they have They definitely have some good guys coming in there.
01:04:20
None of their freshman are really going to need to play just because of how many seniors they have.
01:04:25
And I do like this team.
01:04:27
They're gonna third.
01:04:31
I like that.
01:04:32
They're they're gonna be the team that kind of needs the least amount of, like, the preseason like training because they all they all know each other.
01:04:39
They're all pretty much the same class.
01:04:41
I think it will.
01:04:44
I think it will make them look really good in the nonconference in early part of the schedule.
01:04:49
But I think some other teams might be ableto catch him just because it's Wisconsin.
01:04:56
They're always gonna play the low scoring defensive games.
01:04:59
And those are the teams I'm scared of because even though they have some good scores, they're not gonna put up like 70 80 points a game.
01:05:06
They're gonna sit in like the sixties most of the time, and that's what I'm afraid of For like a regular season team is that if another team gets hot even against their good defense, and they could get caught by teams who are objectively worse than them.
01:05:24
I think I think it makes them better in March Madness when they get there, because this seems definitely going to get to March.
01:05:30
Madness is here.
01:05:32
I just think it hurts them a little bit in the regular season.
01:05:37
And the thing that I'm most scared of is their best sop****re or their best player who wasn't a junior last year, and Kobe King like he's still.
01:05:49
He's still transferring.
01:05:50
It says, And he's not back.
01:05:55
Yeah, if they lose him, that's a double digit score gone.
01:05:58
And he was probably the most athletic wing guy.
01:06:01
So that's that is definitely a hole to fill.
01:06:05
And I like him.
01:06:08
I just don't like him to finish first in the regular season.
01:06:14
I don't know.
01:06:15
Rivers, I think, is the man that's going to be able to hold it down.
01:06:18
Potter is gonna have to really step it up.
01:06:20
Try is just too convincing.
01:06:22
As a gay manager, he can be a scorer or need it, but I like the way he distributes the ball.
01:06:28
He runs that whisk.
01:06:29
Oh, offense perfectly.
01:06:31
Davis is nice.
01:06:33
Ford is another salad piece.
01:06:34
I don't know your man, Ben Carlson.
01:06:36
I can't believe you're not high on him because, you know, but that's where he is.
01:06:42
Just another style of peace in that rotation.
01:06:45
I don't think they're gonna have to go very deep.
01:06:47
Their style of play.
01:06:48
The only time that go deep is when, um, someone gets into foul trouble.
01:06:52
I like their one guy up or their depth one guy back.
01:06:56
Once you go there, you're not gonna find many college teams that have it.
01:06:59
But Stephen alluded to it.
01:07:01
The reason why I like this team the most.
01:07:03
The most continuity in the conference.
01:07:05
All upperclassmen coming back.
01:07:07
Given this weird covert times, I think they're gonna be down the business the whole year.
01:07:13
Um, six losses in the Big 10 consoling you the title.
01:07:16
So if they beat up in the non con, still take care of business, drop a few, but not too many in the Big 10.
01:07:22
I think they'd come and top hard to discredit who you have next, but I like the Badgers. Stiff.
01:07:30
Finished number one.
01:07:32
Yeah.
01:07:34
So let's get toe Iowa last season.
01:07:37
20 and 11 overall.
01:07:39
11 and nine.
01:07:40
I have them in third.
01:07:42
Steven has them finishing in 1st, 78.
01:07:45
7 overall returning production from last season.
01:07:50
I know why you like this team right off the bat because they're the most offensive team probably coming back in the nation they don't really like.
01:07:59
Not that they don't like to play Big 10 style basketball, but, I mean, they have what, four scores on this roster, that they're all just deadly.
01:08:08
They're the team that is by far the peak of the offense there.
01:08:13
One defensive.
01:08:14
They are very weak defensively, 122nd overall from last season.
01:08:19
They're going to need to clean that up because, unlike Wisconsin, they like to get into your more of your running gun games.
01:08:26
Even though they don't push the pace too fast.
01:08:29
Let's hear why you think they're in common number one other than Luke Garza.
01:08:34
Hey, come on, man.
01:08:35
That Z, that's always the first point.
01:08:38
He's the big year, the year far, in a way like it's not even really gonna be close.
01:08:43
You put up 24 10 last year.
01:08:46
Even if he puts up the same numbers you got.
01:08:48
I love, I really do like Joey's camp.
01:08:51
Mm, that's your best 12 punch in the Big 10.
01:08:55
Yeah, who can probably play like the small forward, and he's another 15 and five guy. Easy.
01:09:02
Um, C J.
01:09:03
Frederick and Joe Tucson can browned out the back court.
01:09:09
And then, um I mean, I think, are the McCaffrey's.
01:09:15
Are those friend McCaffrey's kids feeling that the top of my head? I mean, they're both from Iowa City, Iowa, and they got the same last name.
01:09:25
So I'm gonna say their friend McCaffrey's kids, even if they aren't because there's too many similarities there.
01:09:31
Um, I mean, they both I think Conner McCaffrey is gonna be very good this year, even if he's coming off the bench, because even though he only scored six points a game, he does everything for that team because he was a six point game guy.
01:09:47
He had four rebounds and four assists, so if you need somebody thio run point, he can run point.
01:09:55
Um, Patrick McCaffrey was a freshman last year, but he was, ah, lot more highly regarded than his brother.
01:10:04
And even though he's only putting up three points a game last year with Ryan, uh, crying only played two games last season So that's why McCaffrey barely scored.
01:10:15
Yeah, but I think I think with Kreiner out, um, that kind of gives McCaffrey more space toe possibly move up into that starting or just coming off the bench forward role because he's gonna be between like him And, like Jack and Noon gay for the other guy playing alongside Garza.
01:10:38
So I mean, when you have the best player in the league, you have ah, lot of really good point guards.
01:10:47
Um e mean, you hate losing Jordan Bohannon because he was kind of the heart and soul of that team.
01:10:55
But I think I think they just have way too much coming back.
01:10:59
And then a guy in, uh, Aaron Ulis, who could be a good guard off the bench, even though none of their I'm not sold on any of their other recruits coming in.
01:11:11
But I don't think you need to be with a team like this.
01:11:14
That's gonna be a better scoring team than teams like Wisconsin.
01:11:18
Ah, better shooting team that a team like Illinois and a team that's gonna have the best player on the court every time he steps on the court in Garza.
01:11:28
I feel like I feel like that's the safest pick to go.
01:11:30
Number one.
01:11:32
I can't disagree with you there because you just didn't talk about the one weeks bond. That's defense.
01:11:37
This team could score with the best of them.
01:11:39
They could do all that.
01:11:40
But until they can show me that this defense is top 100 top 75 good in the Big 10 I think that's just gonna come back to bite you.
01:11:49
More often than not, I can 100% agreed thes games.
01:11:53
They're gonna be must watch next season.
01:11:55
They're going to be a top offense in the hole country, but three and three and close games Last season against Quad One A, they went one in six.
01:12:05
They need to beat the top teams.
01:12:07
I just I know they're bringing everyone back.
01:12:09
Maybe they just mesh in jail that much better one year together.
01:12:13
Um, that helps them get there.
01:12:16
But I don't know.
01:12:17
I just don't think it's there yet.
01:12:19
This season they did beat Wisconsin in their one matchup last year, 68 to 62 so you can have that one there.
01:12:26
But I'm gonna ride the Badgers.
01:12:28
Steven's gonna ride Iowa to take home the Big Ten's chip that we both think is going to be highly contentious.
01:12:35
But do you really think there's a legit March team? Do you think Iowa could make the Final Four? I think I think any of those top three teams we talked about can all make the Final Four.
01:12:48
I think Illinois can do it if they find shooters.
01:12:51
I think Wisconsin can do it just because of how well their style of defense plays in March.
01:12:57
And I think if I will get hot from three, they got the rebounder in the middle.
01:13:03
I think they can.
01:13:05
If they get on a hot shooting streak, they could make the Final four, too.
01:13:08
So I think there's three teams that have a possibility of making it.
01:13:12
Yeah, the one what would have made me had this team.
01:13:15
The first is if they if I could have see them playing in March last season and in their conference tourney, I just need to be sold on them.
01:13:22
I was very high on them.
01:13:23
I thought they were contenders, but I just needed them.
01:13:26
I just needed to see this core of guys, especially guards and wheezing camp.
01:13:30
Do it together once and then I would've been riding the Hawkeye train like you are.
01:13:35
Yeah.
01:13:37
Do you have a starting five? You get to? Yes, let's get into our first team All conference started a soft at your point guard.
01:13:45
My first point guard is the my first point guards.
01:13:49
The point guard I just talked about, I'm like, Well, I guess he's not really a He's a combo guard forward.
01:13:54
I'm taking Joey's camp and I think he's gonna be a really good score.
01:14:00
I think he can.
01:14:01
I think he'll playoff ball well from the point.
01:14:04
Guards at Wisconsin are not Wisconsin point guards on his team, and I think you would play really well off the true point guard I have on my team.
01:14:12
Um, but this is like I was looking for the breakout started. Go inside. Garza.
01:14:18
I think it's gonna be weeds.
01:14:19
Camp can't can't hate that pick there.
01:14:24
I'm gonna go with Marcus Car, the Minnesota point guard.
01:14:28
He's the one that gets you 15 sticks in six, if not more.
01:14:32
I just want all the versatility and my point there to do whatever I need him to dio.
01:14:38
All right, Do you have at your other guard? So this is where I was deciding between wheeze and camp and this other one.
01:14:47
Um, I did put wise in camp there, so I'm just gonna echo what Stephen said as my starting shooting guard.
01:14:53
But Myron Jones was the one that I was most regrettable toe leave off of this roster from Penn State because I think it's gonna be a pure one man show there.
01:15:02
And I like Myron Jones that much? Yeah, for my other guard.
01:15:08
I'm staying. I'm staying big in the backcourt.
01:15:10
I want, uh, I o D soon you as my point guard.
01:15:15
He's been He's been proven how good he is the past two years.
01:15:19
He could have easily been easily could have been drafted this year.
01:15:23
I don't know if it was first round, but he was easily a draft pick this year if he stayed in the draft.
01:15:30
And I think this is the year he rounds out of his game a little bit more, he becomes a little bit more consistent of a shooter, and he just he does it all.
01:15:40
He's a good long guard, which I always like.
01:15:43
And I think he's He's Lee.
01:15:45
He's leaving the team in most categories outside of rebounding for Illinois.
01:15:52
All right, I'm going to stick their my four.
01:15:54
It's, uh I assume you.
01:15:56
So he's gonna be my small for in my line up.
01:15:59
Okay, um, from my small forward, Um e mean, some people are gonna call it going out on a limb, but I'm taking ah, Franz Wagner from Michigan.
01:16:12
I think he's gonna be what was What was his brother's name? Mo.
01:16:18
Yeah, Yeah, I walk in there.
01:16:20
I think he's gonna be just as good as Mo was by his senior year.
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But I think he's going to do it this year as a sop****re, and I'm just super excited to see him stretch the floor B.
01:16:34
Not like a solid lock down defender, but he's gonna be like that pesky defender that you don't wanna have guarding you like he's gonna come up with those clutch steals.
01:16:43
Um, just another long guy at 68 at my small forward, I think he just does everything pretty well.
01:16:52
Who you gotta power for it at power forward.
01:16:55
I'm taking, uh, Nate Rivers from Wisconsin.
01:16:59
He's just He's kind of exactly like what Frank convinced he was for them.
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So he's gonna be He's gonna be big doing everything like he can.
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He can pass, he's gonna rebound.
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He's gonna hit pretty much all his shots from inside the free throw line.
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And he's He's been the leader for Wisconsin already.
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So he's still gonna be the leader as a senior this year.
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And I think you're gonna have a massive season.
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Yeah, if I got whiskey coming, Number one.
01:17:27
You know, I got rivers there.
01:17:29
Jackson Davis was the person.
01:17:31
I regret it leaving off the most all right way.
01:17:36
Both have the same Sunder.
01:17:37
If you don't have guards that your son or what are you doing? I don't have guards as my center.
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You don't have the player of the year from last season season.
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That's your first team center.
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Do you have a center P? Yeah, I'm taking the guy I think is gonna go highest in the draft.
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Who has the most upside? And that's Coburn, Like obviously, guards has been amazing in college, but at the same time, the only thing I'm a little bit scared.
01:18:08
I mean, you can't be scared of a guy who was like on the basketball court.
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If he's on your team, you don't.
01:18:14
You don't hate a guy who's 6 11 to 60 but at the same time, I'd rather take Coburn, who is a true seven footer at 2 90 who just dominates the glass on both sides of the ball.
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And he hits pretty much everything he takes in the interior.
01:18:30
And I mean, I just think once he like once he reaches his potential, you're gonna look back at it.
01:18:38
Like, Why didn't people talk about him or in college? So that's why I want to give him a shout out on my first team this year.
01:18:46
Digging the bam route? Yeah, yeah, point point Kofi in the MBA.
01:18:53
I'm calling it right now.
01:18:54
Just look at this 7 ft, £300 guy and taking it out of court.
01:18:59
That's going to wrap us up of our Big 10 preview for this week.
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College Gamebreakers Big 10 Preview

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He had fuzzy We find the book, I just playing on my knee.
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Alright, What's up, everybody? It is Wednesday night.
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You know, that means college game breakers coming at you, your college basketball pro podcast and stream brought to you by the breakdown sports.
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Make sure you check us out there at the breakdown sports dot com and follow us on Twitter at b r k d WN on their scores Sports Stephen as here with me as usual, were less than almost a month away.
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Life's about to be good.
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We're about to have multiple college basketball games on ESPN.
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Multicast. We're going have four upon the screen.
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Make sure you have plus that you can get all the action you need.
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It's about to be a wild ride.
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How you doing tonight? I'm good, bro.
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Like I've been here and he's like, November 24th is never gonna be the same.
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So It's like, what, The day before ****ing Thanksgiving? I can.
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I cannot wait like it's This has been like the whole account down all year.
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It's just when college last, we're going to start.
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Yeah, I'm at that age now.
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We're going out on Thanksgiving Eve.
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It's still a great time.
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But if you're going to give me a jam packed loaded sleep with all these games coming up, yeah, I might have some people over and do something different, not go out to the bars now, but yes, so that's the perfect way to get into the first part.
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The MTs are all being announced.
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We got some loaded and jam packed games coming there for the first weekend.
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Poor ST Joe's, my Hawks going up against, um, Kansas and Auburn, and then the other team they could have drawn with Gonzaga.
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So thanks for coming.
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I guess we're officially in the part where we're going to take money to get worked right now.
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Given our season, Um, there are 8 10 preview.
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I guaranteed us 10 wins this season with the shortened schedule than having those two l's in there looking a little bit more questionable, but I'm so confident we can get the 10.
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Who do you? Who does UConn got in there? MTs uh, they haven't.
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They haven't announced the matchups yet, but we're playing some combination of U.
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S, C.
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Vanderbilt and BYU.
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So solid Slate not obviously is tough. Ast the Hawks.
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We like to challenge yourselves in the non con and place, um, quality teams potentially the one and two seeds come down the end of the line.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, hey, USC has both of them.
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Oh, Billy's, they're good.
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BYU has whoever the **** that tall guy was from Purdue. He's good.
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I mean, it's tough enough.
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No respect to Jerry Stackhouse and the boys in Vandy.
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But if any of our viewers on Facebook, Twitter or a SportsCastr, if you're squads involved in empty, let us know who it is and who they're applying will cover it live in our stream tonight.
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But today we're dedicated to the Big 10.
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We got one conference preview left next week with the A C.
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C.
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Next week, but this week we got the 14 teams in the Big 10.
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Obviously, that makes sense, but the Big 10 last year may be true to its name, probably had 10 20 teams.
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They were loaded up top nine teams at 20 plus winds.
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One had 19 so that's a pretty strong top.
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Nebraska is obviously the bottom feeders last year, but one thing to know of all of being a top conference, there is only four conferences that played out a slower paced and then last season.
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So if you're looking for the up and down basketball, this is not it.
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And 69% of the teams in conference play won their home games of nice Big 10 Not many upsets by the dogs.
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Yeah, yeah, this is definitely e Don't know if I would even call it, like, split in half.
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But if you were favorite and they thought you were the better team, you're you're probably gonna win NEP So for this season, right before we get into a ranking, Steve and I will give you how we think each team's gonna finish.
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Well, then well, then cover each 11 by one.
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Don't into are all first conference selections.
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A lot of good teams in here, I think there's a bunch of frauds, though where come March, none of them will be involved as a heavy contender or be in the elite eight or the Final Four.
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I think you have a bunch of 15 to 35 ranked teams in here, and I don't think you have anyone.
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That is it rise of right now that I see is a solidified top 10 team.
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I got.
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I got one or two that.
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I think I'll probably in there.
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All right, so then let's get into our rankings.
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So all right, all mine.
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All first, real quick.
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Stephen will give his.
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I got Nebraska staying at the bottom.
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Penn State at 13 Northwestern at 12 the Terps at 11.
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Produce 10 Minnesota at nine, Ohio State at eight.
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Michigan at seven, Rutgers at six.
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Michigan State at five, Iowa up. Four.
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Indiana at three, Illinois at two and Wisconsin at one.
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Alright, I got Northwestern coming in at last.
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Nebraska the 13.
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Penn State 12 Minnesota 11.
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Purdue 10 Maryland nine.
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Indiana eight, Ohio State seven.
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Rutgers six, Michigan five.
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Michigan State four, Wisconsin and Third, Illinois and second and Iowa.
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Number one.
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That's where we both had Illinois, too, but got a nice shake up.
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We both have different squads finishing up top.
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So no better way to start it off than with the team that came in last.
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You had Nebraska last in your rankings.
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Correct? No, it's Northwestern and last for May.
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All right, so I'm going.
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So we got two different squads that we think we're going to be at the bottom of the pile.
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Nebraska last year.
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I don't know what you saw that thinks this team's gonna improve off of a seven and 25 2 and 18 skid.
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The end last season.
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Man, I don't know if you're drinking the Kool Aid and thinking Hoiberg, former Bulls coach.
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Maybe you liked them so much or whatever, but they didn't want a game since January 7th.
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Last season.
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There, seven and eight at one point ended the season seven and 25.
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Maybe New Year, new them and they just gave up on the coach, kind of like Louisville football.
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But the coaches returning so I only don't wanna get too much into this team other than they played extremely fast at the 16th fastest pace everyday outpaced everyone, but it did not result in any winds.
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It resulted in a lot of drubbings in conference play.
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Just a purely ugly season.
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What do you like on this team that's going to get better? Um, I mean, e I do.
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I do like to Sean Burke.
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Um, I think I think Cramer Gallons coming out.
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I actually know he's sitting one.
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I mean, if Cramer Gallons was playing this year from pit, I really would have liked it.
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Um, actually, no Burkes out to South Alabama.
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****.
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I guess this team is kind of not looking great, but I mean, e think if Kam Mak comes back because he's still only in the transfer portal.
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If he comes back, that's gonna be big for them.
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And then if they can e I mean, it's gonna be tough.
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I didn't make the island's got this waiver that was confirmed.
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Okay, Um, well, I mean, so that's gonna be a big plus for them because he's a really talented guy, and then just they have some pieces coming in.
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Nobody, I really think is like Big 10. Ready.
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Really? Like they might have to be like Eduardo Andre, I think could be a somebody who they might have to start at center.
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But north, I only have them over Northwestern, even though neither of whom are basketball schools.
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I've seen Nebraska do more than I've ever seen Northwestern do, so I just This is just going off like the past.
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Like I'd rather Yeah, you're going off more of the further way past.
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I'm just going off the Terrible last season.
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I don't know how you lose that many games in a row In college basketball, you have to get one at some point.
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But maybe it's a good sign because they're gonna be starting an entirely new starting five, and their six man is probably gonna be a new guy in there as well.
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So Hoiberg is really getting rid of the guys.
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And no one's really returning from last season on Lee 21% of the roster.
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So the thing that they have to do is if they're gonna play it, this type of pace, they can't.
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I mean, they're going to get into the high scoring games, But you can't be allowing your opponent to get into the high eighties or nineties almost every game.
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That was their issue.
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Their offense wasn't nearly efficient enough to keep up with it on Lee shot the three at 31.8%.
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So when you're playing that quick, you're not being efficient.
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You're gonna end up losing your games.
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That's enough about Nebraska, who no high hopes for them next year.
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Next, we'll get into Northwestern who you have coming in last.
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I have them up there in 12th.
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So Northwestern eight and 23 3 and 17 coming in from last season.
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Coming into this year, they're returning 69% of the roster, and I want to hear why you have them in last first.
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Well, I don't I don't remember them being a very remember them being a very good shooting team anyway.
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And they also just They don't have anybody good coming in who can become that shooter.
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I know they like to play slower in the Big 10 anyway, but there isn't really, I mean, unless tie Berry just comes in and he decides to be a great player than I mean, They have young guys, but I don't I don't I don't think they have anybody. That's gonna be good.
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So what I was what I was trying to get to in Nebraska is they do have a lot of transfers coming in for, like Western Kentucky Pit Tennessee, who all just sit out last year.
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We're gonna play, so e it z with Northwestern.
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It's just I don't I don't know how well they develop their guys once they're there, so even if they start out well, I've never seen them get better.
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So I'm going to keep them at the bottom.
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Northwestern.
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Um, I just dislike, uh, Penn State, who I have in 13 and Nebraska, who I had in last just a lot worse than this Northwestern team.
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At least I can see some hopes with Miller, Klopp, Ryan Young and Buoy.
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Those are two guys or three guys that I think have more depth and more proven talent than what we currently have on this Nebraska squad.
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Um, Chase a Goob who's coming in from William and Mary.
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I think he's the guy that could probably make this team come up and finishing 12th where I think they are.
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Um, their defense is anything spectacular, their offenses in either they have no game changers on either side of the court.
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There's someone that's just gonna have to grind out and finish them top tough wins.
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Um, if I'm going to sit on Nebraska for how bad they did last year, um, Northwestern started one in 16 and conference and finished three and 18 so they didn't have too good of a role, either.
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Maybe these guys all being through it once I think gives them a little bit more, um, talent there.
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And I just think that the experience will pay off.
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They finish a little bit better than last season, but it's still nothing.
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Pretty, because I think the bottom four teams in the Big 10 or just kind of in their conference of their own, Yeah.
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I mean, who do you think is gonna be the passer for Northwestern now? Because I don't see anybody coming back on that team who averaged more than two or 2.5 assists.
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So for during the cyst, you might have to go with you.
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He's just gonna have to take a bigger role in the lineup and become the main distributor past them.
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Um, you can't ask a big guy even if they do play that in and out game a lot.
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Where that they're relying on the inside shot to create the three.
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So you could see maybe Ryan Young dish out some passes.
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But gains would be my other guy because Klopp isn't gonna be a pastor.
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So I think it's gonna be buoy or gains.
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And then a good day is just gonna be direct factor.
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Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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I don't see.
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I don't see a lot of I don't see a lot of guards who should be getting a lot of minutes outside of like, outside of Boise.
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And probably I'm probably outside of those three guys you mentioned.
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I don't know who else is really deserving a minutes in the backcourt? Nope.
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So we don't stick much time with the cats.
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Not gonna be a pretty season for Collinses squad.
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We'll get into Penn State next.
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So state.
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Last season, 21 10 11 and nine in conference man.
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Things were looking so high for them until Chris Chambers stepped down.
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Because it looks like you got caught up in some sticky situations there.
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I don't think they've named a new head coach yet, but for Penn State basketball to finally be, like, trending somewhere above the seller in the big, big tennis huge for them in the 2010 decade.
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There are better than average twice, and one of them was last season's.
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You saw a lot of signs of growth in them of becoming a full squad.
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Now they're gonna be doing it under an interim head coach.
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They had the 15th best defense in the 34th best offense last season.
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So state could have been a sneaky team in March.
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I think there, Ah, sweet 16 bound squad, potentially, but nothing further past that.
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I love Myron Jones on the squad.
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I can't be too high on him as just a pure score from the guard spot.
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Um, if he plays a point, that's fine with me.
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Sometimes he goes more of a combo guard, so I want the ball in his hands.
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I'm just concerned about this team's height and anyone else around him.
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Um, Penn State does have the ability.
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I think the easily jump Northwestern in my rankings.
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But, um, Penn Station is not a full squad without Myron Jones and Miles Dredd.
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Those are my two guys.
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I, like everyone else, is huge.
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Question, Mark.
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So what do you What do you think about the Nittany Lines.
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Yeah, it's kind of the same thing for me.
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I think God is gonna have to be more of like Interior Guard.
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Just with his size at 2 15 I think he's gonna have to get some of the rebounds because you can't really rely on trend.
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But Rick are John Harar or really Seth Lundy? Or maybe I don't know.
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Seth Lundy is not bad as a 66 fresher, and he could be a good swing die for them.
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And then, um, I think they're X factors, honestly, a Do you code transfer in volunteer Manuel.
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He's a 6 10 £225 center.
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He was like the 14th best juco transfer coming into the year, and I think if he can come in and solidify the middle for them, it will make it a lot easier for those other guys I mentioned before to just kind of rotate at the four and five.
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And then you keep those other guards and Lundy as your point guard through small forward.
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I mean, it's obviously not gonna be a good year, but I think it'll give them.
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They'll make.
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It will make them a little bit more competitive than Nebraska and Northwestern.
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So did you still have them down here with chambers? There was one of the reason why you dropped them is because Chambers has gone.
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I dropped him a little bit, cause Chambers has gone.
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I think I had him over was probably just I think I just had them in Minnesota.
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Flip.
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Really? Yeah.
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So I definitely had them Slade up more towards, like an eighth or seventh place team in the conference with him there.
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Um, the Jones and dread combos. Great.
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It's gonna be really strange that Penn State is gonna be relying on three freshmen to be their death.
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Um, Chambers did seem to bring in a decent class with Daily and Johnson, D. J.
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Gordon and Caleb Dorsey.
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Um, not other Big 10 teams might hang their hat on it, but Penn State's never really got the big recruits.
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Their chambers was really trying to change that momentum.
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So I know I've harped on him a lot, but I think Penn State is falling right back towards irrelevancy and basketball due to his loss.
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Um, I would work curious to see what more of the allegations comes out what he did if it was recruiting issues or anything like that.
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But between Dresden Jones, that's where all you got.
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The big men are really rough.
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I don't believe in harder Lundy at all.
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So given the quality of the big men that we're gonna get into in the Big 10 they're just gonna get eaten alive on the boards.
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And they're going to regress really hard from having a top 50 offense and defense last year and finished in the hundreds, I think.
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Yeah, Yeah.
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I mean, there's something gonna be a big drop.
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Um, but I don't I don't know.
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I think the only guy that I would have a different opinion on is probably Lundy.
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Just because it was like Lamar Stevens was taking most of his minutes last year and even in just, like, limited playing time, he was averaging, like, five and three.
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So I mean, I could see him being the guy that takes a step, but him taking a step is not gonna be enough.
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Thio see them Not, like fall like a ****ing rock through the conference standings this year.
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Yeah, I agree.
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Who's the lowest team that I haven't talked about in your life so far.
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I got Minnesota at 11.
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Alright, I got Minnesota down at nine.
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That's a good spot to go to next.
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So Minnesota Last year.
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15 and 16 8 and 12 overall Conference Um, they're returning 52% of their roster from this season and just pulling it up.
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So Minnesota? Their biggest issue last season? Waas I don't know.
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Why do you have them so low? Because this team wasn't terrible.
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Last year, their offense was solid.
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Their defense was solid.
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They just struggled in Big 10 play, which is given with their they had a two relief.
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So I'm assuming you really dislike or tour leaving.
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But Marcus Car, I think he's one of the top guards in this entire conference, but other than there, I can see where it's rough.
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Why are you so low on the Gophers? Um, yeah, because I mean, you got oh to relieving.
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You got Allah Han Dimier.
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Also, they know he's back.
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He's back. He's a redshirt senior this year.
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Um, but outside of him, it's the mirror.
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And then Freeman is really your Onley height.
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I mean, you got Isaiah in in, but they were both fresh.
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Him and Freeman were both freshmen.
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That didn't really do anything.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know if people I mean the fact that all there ranchers are immediately eligible is good.
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But at the same time, I don't know if the continuity is there and they're gonna have to play big minutes up front to go with to go.
00:20:51
I mean, what they got scored.
00:20:55
That's the one thing I'm convinced on.
00:20:57
This Minnesota team is one through five.
00:20:59
They can score what? Their starting five.
00:21:01
The bench gets a little rough, but they're starting five, I think, and go with some of the top teams, not bring them to defeat.
00:21:08
But they can hang with the ballers that they got.
00:21:11
Yeah.
00:21:12
I mean, I do kind of like Mashburn Junior, and I guess my extractors I don't know how well their transfer from Utah is gonna do this year.
00:21:23
I guess if I liked him or I'd probably move, I probably move Minnesota up a little bit, but not really sold on him.
00:21:31
So it's like you got car and Cal calendar culture.
00:21:40
I mean, I don't I don't There's nobody on this team that I hate, but they don't have a star like Otaru who's going to carry them.
00:21:51
I think Marcus Car is your star.
00:21:53
Uh, was he 15 points per game, five boards, 6 to 7 assists? I think he's just a stats Heat stuff for He's someone that is tough to guard.
00:22:04
The offense is obviously going to roll through him.
00:22:07
So if he gets tough, I think gouaches, you're correct pick and he's gonna be able to score off the wing 10 points for his career so far.
00:22:16
Um, if he puts up those numbers that Minnesota, I think they'll be good because I think cargoes for almost close to 20 a game next year.
00:22:23
He's just gonna be a name that shoots up the draft boards.
00:22:26
I think not many people have stock in him.
00:22:29
I can put mine behind car easily because I think he's someone that can win you a game and carry a team.
00:22:35
But given the Big 10 you're not gonna be able to do it for the full conference schedule.
00:22:39
So that's why I have them down at nine, like the pieces that they have.
00:22:43
But this just isn't three year to be competitive yet in the conference.
00:22:49
I mean, I mean, GAC really has to be good because they also lose Peyton Willis, who transferred, and then I don't know if there's just a lot of moving parts where at a place like Minnesota, I don't think they deal very well with trying to bring a lot of new guys in.
00:23:11
And then a lot of losing a lot of guys from the team like there's teams who are equipped to do that, like the Kentucky's.
00:23:16
And, like the blue Bloods, I don't see.
00:23:17
Minnesota is one of those teams No faith in Rich Pitino yet? No.
00:23:23
If your last name is Pitino, I have no faith in you anyway.
00:23:25
But that's besides the point.
00:23:27
All right, let's get into the Terps next of Maryland.
00:23:31
Last season, 24 7 14 and six, Maryland basketball was back.
00:23:37
I don't think it's back for back to back seasons.
00:23:40
I have them finishing down in 11th.
00:23:42
They're returning 51% of their roster.
00:23:46
They're losing Jaylin Smith coming into this season, and I think he was the biggest reason why they're everything that they were last year.
00:23:54
Um, Con Conlan Jr is a huge losses.
00:23:58
Well, so, um, two guys were going out.
00:24:01
That was majority of the production last year.
00:24:04
I don't know if you're sold in Wiggins, but the last name Wiggins might be a little stale to me.
00:24:09
Just hasn't proven it yet with anyone.
00:24:11
That last name butt here no size that you're gonna be any bit scare of your just gonna get eaten alive by the teams.
00:24:19
We're gonna talk about guard play is gonna be questionable.
00:24:22
Docker.
00:24:23
You probably have a good scouting report on him, but he's going to be the guy that's gonna be able to have to handle that Big 10 pressure in the slower tempo to get them into contention.
00:24:34
And I don't see that happening and happening for them this year.
00:24:39
Uh, yeah.
00:24:41
I mean, with this team, Um, I do like that.
00:24:45
They got a Jerry's Hamilton.
00:24:47
He got his immediate eligibility coming in from Boston College and he got Galen Smith 69 center coming in from Alabama.
00:24:57
And the guy I've been getting really sold on in the off season is Dante Scott.
00:25:05
I think he's going to come in and be he's gonna come in and be that guy.
00:25:09
That's not He's maybe not necessarily gonna play center.
00:25:13
But he's gonna be that bully.
00:25:15
Kind of like power forward.
00:25:18
Small forward combo.
00:25:20
That can just be a big time.
00:25:23
Kind of just like effort, rebounder.
00:25:26
And then I think Mukai Mitchell just finally being able to play since he was stuck behind Jaylin Smith.
00:25:33
I think he's gonna have a break out season because he was the top 70 guy last year at 6.
00:25:38
10 to 35 I think he's gonna have a good season.
00:25:43
Um, wait.
00:25:46
****.
00:25:47
What? He left. Unfortunate.
00:25:50
Oh, no different guy. Jesus Christ.
00:25:53
The names on this team are way too close.
00:25:54
Where you got Michael Mitchell? And like I Mitchell? Yeah.
00:26:00
Um, but, I mean, you got Mitchell.
00:26:04
You got choule.
00:26:07
Mariel a 7 to 2. 30.
00:26:11
gonna be sop****re, another guy in the top 100 from last year.
00:26:14
You pair them with more selling wiggins up top, and then you got Erica, Ella and Dante Scott.
00:26:22
I really like what this team is bringing back.
00:26:25
They were just They were just so top heavy with Cowen and Smith.
00:26:31
The other guys didn't get as much of a chance to produce e think they're going to be much more well rounded team this year.
00:26:37
So last season they finished with the 24th best offense in the country.
00:26:42
You still think it finishes within like 10 give or take give you 35 because I think the loss of those two, unless they are just that much more well rounded.
00:26:52
I think they fall off past 50 and their defense is gonna be solid.
00:26:58
But their offense is what just holds them back from being like a 500 team and conference.
00:27:03
I think they'll I think they'll be sitting somewhere around 60 for offense.
00:27:08
And if they're sitting around 60 for offense, I think they'll be sitting.
00:27:12
Where do I have them? I think they'll be sitting just below the top half of the Big 10.
00:27:19
What place do you have? Maryland.
00:27:20
And I have them in 11th.
00:27:21
Do you have them? And I haven't.
00:27:23
I have a midnight Alright, so not too far off there.
00:27:27
I mean, just to go to score game on the line.
00:27:32
It's going toe Wiggins his hands and it's gonna be his ear to prove it.
00:27:36
Um, past that you have you have viable scores.
00:27:40
No one scares me too often.
00:27:42
So maybe Dockery could be a game changing point guard for the Terps because they always seem to have a pesky one.
00:27:49
Yeah, I don't know.
00:27:50
This is This is just really where I really like more.
00:27:53
Sell another.
00:27:55
I mean, they do still have a lot of them in Maryland.
00:27:57
He was another top 100 guy, and he's coming into a senior year.
00:28:01
I think he's gonna be the guy who has the ball a lot at the end of games.
00:28:06
Just trusting that senior guard.
00:28:10
Yep.
00:28:11
So let's get into the next squad.
00:28:13
Let's go into Purdue.
00:28:14
I think we both have them relatively low.
00:28:17
Um, 16 and 15 last year, nine and 11.
00:28:20
Overall, the Boilermakers.
00:28:23
They are returning 59% of their roster.
00:28:27
Um, is Purdue basketball gonna be back after the small blimp that they had, um, last season? Not usually.
00:28:35
Where the Boilermaker basketball is wasn't too far, but they're still above conference average, but they're used to being one of the dominant forces in there.
00:28:44
Uh, painter squad just couldn't get it done at the end of the day.
00:28:48
Is the worst way to put it, but, um, coming up in close games and one score games, they went.
00:28:55
Where is that? They went three and five, so you usually see produce Squad not finished below 500.
00:29:00
They had the 12th best defense, 47th best offense in the nation last year.
00:29:06
So it's that strange.
00:29:07
That's the 16 and 15 record.
00:29:09
But when you lose 11 conference games, that's how you finished down there.
00:29:13
What do you have on the outlook for this squad, where I think scoring is scarce this season? Uh, yeah, I don't see a ton of scoring coming back, but I think as long as you still got I mean, I think Tribunal Williams can hold it down upfront.
00:29:34
If he's still there, he is.
00:29:36
Okay, so he's good.
00:29:39
What I've been surprised at most is how High produced Ben on Zach et.
00:29:48
There he was, only he was ranks like Did you see the Rothstein tweet today? Yeah, he was like 430th, but they already think he's a better rebounder than Isaac Haas Waas.
00:30:01
So if you bring in a 73 guy who's just in there to rebound, it's gonna be tough on both ends of the court, and then they bring in to top 100 guards and Jade and Ivy and Ethan Morton.
00:30:13
I think it will be a good mix of a good mix of like upperclassmen and youth with, Like Eric Hunter Jr.
00:30:22
Um, so you got every Hunter Jr You got Sasha Stepanovich and Isaiah Thompson all coming back, Um, and then you have travel on Williams is just the bruiser down low and then ET as the height with those two freshmen guards.
00:30:43
I think I think a lot of the freshmen are still a little ways away, and none of those other guys I talked about They're gonna be seniors this year.
00:30:50
So I think it'll probably another around 500 season and then you'll see Purdue really be back next year.
00:30:57
So you think the culture and everything is good there with Harms in Eastern's transfer out, that was just two guys unhappy.
00:31:04
Or do you think there's more shaken up at Purdue? Um, no.
00:31:09
I think Harms was always a guy who was never really happy at Purdue because produce always had a lot of big guys and I think harms thought he should have done more than he was allowed to dio.
00:31:20
So I think that's why he left.
00:31:21
And then Eastern Eastern was the same way, like he was a 67 He was.
00:31:29
He was their only top 100 recruit on the roster last year, but he was just so far behind Williams and they played the same position I think they just wanted.
00:31:39
I think he wanted to find something new because he saw Williams is a year younger than him.
00:31:45
So he's not getting the playing time this year, either.
00:31:48
I think I think they were both just guys who wanted Thio raise whatever draft stock they could have and go to somewhere where they'd be featured more.
00:31:57
Yeah, and that's a good way to put it, because Purdue they played at the 333rd slowest tempo.
00:32:04
They're gonna work the ball around on offense.
00:32:06
It's not gonna be pretty, um, their games e don't want to say they look like high school, but they're going to be a A run play, probably at least 15 to 25 seconds off the shot clock.
00:32:17
Every time Purdue basketball, they're going to grind you out and try to beat you.
00:32:21
Um, that's plays into Trevi in Williams.
00:32:24
His hands.
00:32:25
I think Eric Hunter is gonna be one of their breakthrough players.
00:32:28
If this team I have them finishing at 10th, if they want to break into around seventh or eighth, I think it's because Williams just goes off and Hunter Jr is just a compliment.
00:32:38
Memory peace.
00:32:39
Because there's no one else really on this roster that I liked.
00:32:43
I can't say I've watched much of Ivy or Maurin tape.
00:32:46
But if these two freshmen can step up and give them solid guards because I'm not sold on Thompson, are Stefan of it yet? So that's where if Ivy Maurin eventually beat them out, then I might, like, just team a little bit more.
00:33:00
Yeah.
00:33:03
Uh, do you have Ohio State? Pretty low? Yeah, I have them at eighth.
00:33:08
So it's the next squad I was gonna jump to. Yeah.
00:33:11
All right.
00:33:12
Where do you have them? At seventh.
00:33:16
All right, well, let's get to the Buckeyes.
00:33:19
So Ohio State last season, 21 10 11 and nine.
00:33:23
Steven, I know you're a huge fan of Ohio State basketball and think they're a very solid program.
00:33:29
Um, the returning 47% of the roster.
00:33:33
And Steven, I know this one might upset you a little bit, but your favorite publication hasn't run entire than UConn coming into this year.
00:33:42
Think there will be a better team than them? Um, they have transfers.
00:33:48
They're going to make a big impact in there.
00:33:50
They're losing Caleb Lesson, who is probably their heart and soul.
00:33:54
The team.
00:33:55
So in Big 10 play, this team is extremely unpredictable.
00:34:00
Uh, their top score might be either the transfers they have coming in.
00:34:06
So an offense that I don't want to call it questionable because it's gonna be top 50.
00:34:13
The defense should still be there.
00:34:15
So that's where I think they could be on the cups oven 18 1 season.
00:34:19
But I'm not gonna be too impressed by the squad.
00:34:23
I mean, I wouldn't call their Big 10 play unpredictable.
00:34:25
I would just call it bad e if I'm if I'm betting games, I'm fading Ohio State Every time they have to play a conference game, they never had to see any Big 10 team.
00:34:36
They'd be good, but that's that's not what they get to deal with.
00:34:40
So they're bad and then you lose.
00:34:44
Uh, Caleb Weston, you lose Luther Mohammed, you lose Deejay carton.
00:34:48
All three of those guys are Big guy e mean all three of those guys should have been big guys for them.
00:34:55
You bring in Able Porter from Utah State.
00:35:00
I've watched Able Porter play a lot of basketball against Boise State.
00:35:05
He's not.
00:35:07
He's not a great player.
00:35:08
I barely call him a good player.
00:35:10
I don't He's not gonna make a huge impact there, Um, and then Seth Towns coming in from Harvard.
00:35:20
I mean, I do kind of like South towns, but this is kind of like what we said about some of those guys from Yale.
00:35:29
It's like if they're coming from the Ivy League to the Big 10 is a tough transition.
00:35:36
So they're leaning on what C.
00:35:38
J.
00:35:39
Walker, Dwayne Washington and E. J. Liddell.
00:35:43
Pretty much I don't see.
00:35:48
This is really a team where I don't see any size.
00:35:50
It's like Kyle Young, uh, Ibrahima Diallo.
00:35:56
And I mean, they got Zed Key coming in as a freshman, and he was running to the top 1 50.
00:36:03
But he's a 67 £215 center that that that doesn't really play in the big time.
00:36:12
So I'm definitely not that sold on Ohio State.
00:36:16
So the area where I have the biggest concern with Ohio State is they shot 37% from three last season, 22nd best clip in the nation.
00:36:25
They're losing Wesson both lessons.
00:36:28
Who attempted their most threes for last season? Both shot 42% respectively.
00:36:34
So, um, when the offense got stagnant, they started shooting the threes.
00:36:39
They fell for Ohio State.
00:36:41
That's where.
00:36:42
Maybe that's I think.
00:36:43
Unpredictable is better, because if you faded them, they went 11 and nine and Conference, so you might have lost a little change there.
00:36:50
Maybe if you played the money dog underline, you probably would have cashed out there more because they probably messed up as the big favorites.
00:36:57
But losing your constant three production and the two guys who scored the most for you, which catapulted them last season, The guys that they have on the roster can still shoot it.
00:37:07
Not all of them had at least half of the attempts that they had, but that's because you want the Western shooting the three.
00:37:12
So thes guys like Suing and Walker and Young and even Washington Jr.
00:37:18
They're gonna have to step into that three roll call.
00:37:21
Young probably won't be attempting that many just because he's a taller guy.
00:37:24
But, yeah, the scoring will probably be there.
00:37:27
I think suing might be their top guy.
00:37:30
Um, it's a roster that I don't think is terrible, but you're relying on the cow player.
00:37:37
A cow transfer to be your top scores.
00:37:39
That's where it's a little bit more concerning for May.
00:37:44
Yeah, I mean, who do you think is playing center for them to start the year? Do you think it's Diallo, Gaffney or Young? It's probably Kyle, Young and Towns.
00:37:56
It's the first guy off the bench.
00:38:01
Oh, yeah, I I don't know.
00:38:04
I think if you're going off like I mean, I really think it it should be Gaffney.
00:38:13
I don't know what he wasn't doing well last year to not get minutes, but he seems like he has the most like raw talent in that group of forwards because he was 47th in the 2019 rankings and he's also 69 So he's got height on everybody except the alot.
00:38:33
So he's got the height and he has the he Well, he had the hip coming out of high school, so I don't know what was going wrong, but something obviously went wrong for him to not have bigger minutes last year.
00:38:48
Yeah, everything that I'm looking at is just kind of not even projecting him to get that many minutes next season, either.
00:38:54
So maybe you'll have to dive into that one and let us know what you find on the isn't his name.
00:38:59
Alonso Gaffney? Yeah, Alonso Gaffney.
00:39:03
Alright, So let's get to the squad, Stephen, that I have in seventh on that.
00:39:09
I don't remember if the top of my head where you have Michigan but for John Howard side, I'm not liking their chances this year.
00:39:17
In 19 and 12 last season, 10 and 10 returning 50% of their roster.
00:39:23
I could be a little too low of Michigan, but I mean getting livers back.
00:39:30
It's the biggest thing they got for them.
00:39:32
Wagner's a solid piece.
00:39:34
This is a team that just waste huge.
00:39:35
Davis don't care who you put out there they have.
00:39:38
I think three guys or four guys air over 6 ft seven.
00:39:42
That air starting.
00:39:43
They have one guy off the bench that's gonna be 7 ft one.
00:39:47
So there are a huge roster.
00:39:49
Um, they're a team last season that was able to do you up and play offense efficiently.
00:39:55
That's what got them to 19 and 12.
00:39:57
But once again, the Big 10 just kind of ate them alive, made you on how it learns with with it this year.
00:40:03
But getting livers back from the draft was huge because the pairing of livers and Wagner's is kind of pretty tough to go against, especially when you have other guys in the weight.
00:40:16
I passed them that are just as good.
00:40:18
I just don't know.
00:40:19
For some reason, this Michigan team has all the hype to be a top 15 team.
00:40:23
I'm just not sold on the Wolverines E.
00:40:28
Yeah, I mean, I like a lot of what they have coming back because Wagner's he was.
00:40:35
He was really good as a freshman at like 11.
00:40:38
5 in like 5.
00:40:39
5 as a freshman.
00:40:42
Um, he's a good three point shooter so he can stretch the floor if you put him at four or, I mean same thing, even if you put him at three and then I like livers.
00:40:52
I think Eli Brooks can be a good point guard.
00:40:56
Um, but then you still got do Julius and Brandon Johns Jr coming back, who could play back up Garden forward rolls for them and then, even though they lost Isaiah Todd, which would have been a massive signing for them? You still have Hunter ****inson, who is gonna be a good backup center, or maybe even potential starting center by the end of the year.
00:41:21
Um, I'm a fan of Zeb Jackson as a backup guard, and then Terrence Williams is just He's good enough to play somewhere off the bench.
00:41:32
Um, and if you add those guys in as the three guys getting minutes behind Johns Jr.
00:41:42
Then it kind of rounds out a pretty decent lineup.
00:41:46
I think it'll be a lineup that has slight improvement over last year.
00:41:50
You have them in Where'd you say seventh? Yeah, I still think they make the tournament.
00:41:54
Just give it a Big 10 makes it.
00:41:58
But that's why I think they finished.
00:42:00
I have them up a little bit higher in fifth, but I don't see them competing with those top three teams.
00:42:07
I do see them beating up on most of the teams you already talked about.
00:42:14
Yeah, that's where I think Juwan Howard Just gonna take it one more year.
00:42:19
I just am not sold in them in the Big 10 play.
00:42:22
Um, they have the guys have been through it.
00:42:24
So maybe than seniority has to come through over the coaching there because you got Phil Martelli on the bench with Joe on there, so I might not be the best combination.
00:42:34
But Livers and Wagner, they could win you any game together.
00:42:38
So might be describing them a little too little buggers.
00:42:41
Stick to my guns and keep them in seventh.
00:42:44
Let's go to the squad.
00:42:46
I got finishing in six, and that's Rutgers.
00:42:49
Eso Rutgers.
00:42:51
Last season they went 20 and 11 11 and nine and Conference.
00:42:55
They're returning 82% of their roster, so almost everybody is coming back.
00:43:02
You gotta shout out use anytime you talk about Rutgers because you know he'll go on Iran.
00:43:06
Harper Junior Tangent.
00:43:08
Um, easily the heart and the soul of the team.
00:43:10
You got Geo Baker and Jacob Young around them.
00:43:13
Maybe they don't have the solid five that Michigan has.
00:43:17
But those three pieces I like a lot.
00:43:20
I think these guys air sneaky team in the Big 10.
00:43:24
Maybe they're coming to get their respect back.
00:43:26
Um, depth is extremely questionable with this team, but they're just going to run their top 5 to 6 guys out there.
00:43:35
And I think you can hang with most of the teams in the Big 10.
00:43:38
Maybe not with one and two, but enough Thio get them above 500 in Big 10 play.
00:43:45
I don't know when.
00:43:46
The last time they went back to back seasons over 500 big 10 Definitely not since 2000 and nine.
00:43:56
Yeah.
00:43:59
I mean, I'm I'm kind of a fan of this team.
00:44:03
I mean, I mean Goose and I already went over this.
00:44:07
I mean, I got the better team in my state than he has in his state, but I don't I don't dislike this team.
00:44:13
I think Miles Johnson will be good in the middle for them.
00:44:16
You bring in, you bring in a good freshman with Cliff All Marui.
00:44:22
Um, he's another center who I don't know.
00:44:26
Maybe you could just go big and run him and Miles Johnson together because you don't really have a true power forward on the team.
00:44:34
Um, but yeah.
00:44:36
I mean, everybody really likes Geo Baker.
00:44:40
I don't think I'm I don't think I'm as sold on him as a lot of people are, but, I mean, you got a backcourt that's been doing it together for a while.
00:44:48
Uh, Jacob Young should be all right, but, I mean, you're right after their starting five.
00:44:55
Really? The bench is a little bit too shaky for me toe.
00:45:01
Have them finishing really in contention for the Big 10.
00:45:05
I just think it's that defense when you're returning 82% of the guys that had a top 10 defense in the nation last year and even granted that they were one of the worst 33 point shooting teams in the nation.
00:45:18
So that's where if they're able to pull it off last season, I think they ride and build off this positive momentum.
00:45:25
Not many new pieces coming in.
00:45:27
Um, they're kind of like the Sixers.
00:45:30
I believe they're They're Jim's called the Rack.
00:45:34
I think they won more than 15 games and only had one loss.
00:45:38
But outside of it is where they took majority of their losses.
00:45:42
So I think they had double digit losses outside of home.
00:45:46
So that's where teams got to get a little bit more consistent.
00:45:49
But we riding that home court mojo, you got the top 10 defense in the nation.
00:45:54
I'm going to ride this Rutgers team to finish in six you don't want.
00:45:59
You don't want to make the comparison to Philly because if you make the comparison to the 70 Sixers, they'll get bounced in the first round of NC double A tournament, maybe the round of 32 at best.
00:46:08
You don't you don't wanna put that on records.
00:46:11
I think Rutgers fans would be happy to make the 20.
00:46:15
Given this where the state of the program has been for a while.
00:46:19
Just give them the taste.
00:46:20
That's true.
00:46:22
Who's the next lowest squad that you got? E.
00:46:27
I still haven't heard anything from Indiana yet.
00:46:30
Yeah, I have them up at three.
00:46:31
Where do you have them at? I haven't met eight, but if you want to do Michigan State next week, a new Michigan State you.
00:46:37
I'll write.
00:46:38
I'll write off what they did last season.
00:46:40
Then I'll let you get in tow.
00:46:42
I you and why you have them down in eighth, then I'll rebuttal.
00:46:45
Why have them up in third? So 20 and 12 last season? Nine and 11 overall returning 65% of their guys talk to users.
00:46:55
Basketball to May.
00:46:58
Everybody really likes Tracey Jackson Davis, and you could see why.
00:47:04
But outside of him and Christian Lander, there's, I mean, maybe maybe you see some of Jordan Geronimo, but outside of that you bring in a lot of guys who all play kind of anywhere from a point guard to small forward and e.
00:47:28
Guess people kind of like Gobi Brunk, But he's always in foul trouble.
00:47:32
So great writer.
00:47:36
So I'm not really sold on him.
00:47:38
And then I guess it kind of all comes down to What's Justin Smith going to Dio and then Rob fantasy? Everybody's always talking about Rob fantasy, and then he's just always inconsistent.
00:47:50
So you got you have a highly, You have the highly touted guy in Jerome Hunter who didn't do much last year as a freshman.
00:48:00
Um, a lot of their guys coming back that they like, are playing the same positions as their incoming freshmen.
00:48:10
Like Like I mean, Fancy or Durham are probably gonna be playing in the backcourt.
00:48:19
So then it's like his land are gonna be the backup, or is he going to start? And I I don't know.
00:48:29
I don't I'm not completely sold on anybody except Jackson Davis.
00:48:35
And if I'm gonna have a team up in the top five, I need to be so, like, completely sold on more than one guy on your team.
00:48:46
You know what? Jackson Davis? I think everyone's just expecting him to take that next step as a sop****re.
00:48:52
Uh, what do you have 13 points per game last season or something around those lines? I think they're expecting him to jump it up to 17 to 18.
00:49:00
Um, Archie Miller, for some reason, always gets good reviews and always is highly.
00:49:06
His teams always seem to be highly ranked in the standings.
00:49:09
Fourth season there last season was finally, I guess, a decent one for his squad since he took over.
00:49:18
Not the biggest Archie fan there is.
00:49:20
But, um, it's gonna be Durham.
00:49:22
I think that lander could potentially push him out of that starting role or start push fantasy out.
00:49:30
And then I think the Lander Durham combo is a lot more deadly than that one is, um, bronc.
00:49:37
I think he's a good center.
00:49:38
I think he is top six centers in the conference, if not higher.
00:49:45
So that's where I think they can handle the guard quality they can hang.
00:49:50
Handle the big man, uh, depth in there.
00:49:53
So that's where Jackson Davis.
00:49:55
I think Archie is just gonna feed him and feed him.
00:49:57
And if he gets hot, I think there's not much that that can stop him.
00:50:01
So I'm writing the one man show here.
00:50:03
So that's why I think they finish up in third.
00:50:05
And I think he just cooks.
00:50:16
I think care of me.
00:50:18
Oh, no **** eso, I forgot.
00:50:22
Justin Smith is actually go.
00:50:24
He's out, he's going to Arkansas and then you got the messy Anderson.
00:50:29
There are other kind of big Guy is also out.
00:50:33
He's going to Loyola.
00:50:37
He's going toe loyal in Chicago, so that means that your Onley size on the team is Ah, you're only size on the team.
00:50:46
Is Jackson Davis and Brunk, and I'm never gonna be sold on Brunk because I think he's still careless player going into his senior year like the like, the games I watched him play when he played UConn and some of their other games in the Big 10.
00:51:00
He always seemed to be in foul trouble.
00:51:02
And if he's always in foul trouble, obviously, Jackson Davis is a stud, but he can't be a like it's not gonna matter how much he puts up if your power forwards like some 65 or 6 60 getting absolutely bodied by other power forwards.
00:51:16
Yeah, that's where Race Thomas or Thompson might have to take a huge step for this team next year, which is very concerning to say, if you want him to be a solid piece in the Big 10 competing team, yeah, so that's that's why I have them down a little bit lower because you made a strength in your backcourt just more of a strength of the guys you signed.
00:51:42
Bye.
00:51:43
You can't expect Jackson Davis to do the job of two guys if Brunk gets in foul trouble.
00:51:51
Yep, one area that you can nitpick there with your guards is the assist rate 200 overall, Not something you want to see.
00:51:59
That's where you're getting a lot of eso ball.
00:52:01
Think we could see a lot more this year? Just feeding Jackson and the post? Yeah, alright, So let's get to Michigan State next.
00:52:10
I got them at fifth.
00:52:12
Steven has them.
00:52:14
I believe that Fifth as well.
00:52:15
We got four teams left after these guys.
00:52:19
So this parties, they went 22 9, 14 and six in conference.
00:52:24
They're returning 53% of their roster.
00:52:27
Um, usually betting against the down here against Michigan State isn't something that usually pays off too well.
00:52:34
So Stephen and I were putting our necks out there.
00:52:36
The last really bad season was probably 2017 in recent years.
00:52:41
Um, they're losing precious Winston, which has just been the face of the teen.
00:52:48
Um, last year they couldn't force any turnovers on defense.
00:52:52
They still finished with the top 15 top 15 offense.
00:52:56
Um, the loss of Winston and Xavier Tillman has gone as well.
00:53:01
You're losing your to hugest pieces from last year.
00:53:04
I are you writing for a Julie Hauser and Aaron Henry show? Does that convince you that they're going to be a top three team in the Big 10.
00:53:13
That's where I start to find a decent amount of the holes in the team.
00:53:18
Um, Rocket Watts is basically gonna be want their starting point.
00:53:22
Maybe Langford.
00:53:23
If he comes back, I believe he's projected Thio.
00:53:27
Hey, might be their top score.
00:53:28
So a lot of question marks next season for Michigan State team? Um, no.
00:53:34
Big, I would say No huge freshman coming in.
00:53:37
CS Co is a nice piece, but I think you might get buried down there depth chart a little bit.
00:53:42
Why don't you like Sparky's? Um uhh.
00:53:48
I don't.
00:53:49
I mean, obviously, I don't like them to do as much as they did last year, but I do like Sissoko to come in and just, uh, be one of like, I mean, I think he could come in and be higher than, like, Julius Marvel.
00:54:03
Uh, Thomas Kisser.
00:54:05
Um, yeah, I think he's higher than them.
00:54:08
I think he's the eighth man on their 8th and 9th man on their routine.
00:54:13
Yeah, but I I think outside of ah, I think outside of like Bingham and Hauser, I think he should be the I think he should be the third big man in the rotation.
00:54:31
So I think he should be the first big man off the bench.
00:54:34
And then what happened allowing for last year? Was he just injured? Yep.
00:54:40
So, yeah, him coming back to me big.
00:54:42
I really like rocket lots.
00:54:44
Having a break out season.
00:54:46
Since he doesn't have to play behind caches Winston anymore, he could just be the point guard.
00:54:52
So you have him as a point guard, Aaron Henry as you're shooting guard.
00:54:57
And then I like, um mhm.
00:55:01
I like a J Hoger to be one of their first guys off the bench.
00:55:05
Kind of doing a Rocket Watts did last year.
00:55:08
And then you start good guys in Malik Hall and, uh, Foster lawyer who can just shoots threes.
00:55:16
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:18
I mean, I find out that I'll take the floor spacing all the time.
00:55:23
Um, but you have a lot of guys in between that 6626 11 area, and then you have the talented backcourt.
00:55:32
I just think there's I just think that three teams I have higher than them, I'll bring back Mawr.
00:55:39
Good experience than Michigan State has.
00:55:43
Yep.
00:55:44
And that's where I mean, you're just It's never good to feed.
00:55:51
And is the squatter think that they're not going to come in highly rate it But your two leading scorers coming into this season, if you're not going to consider Aaron Henry, there is gonna be Langford back from injury in a market transfer.
00:56:04
So those were the top two guys you're gonna rely on to get your production.
00:56:08
That just sounds a little concerning for me in the Big 10 but Langford just has a pure ability to get there.
00:56:15
Um, I'll jump on the Rocket watch bandwagon with you, so you don't have to convince me.
00:56:20
Otherwise, he's gonna be a solid guard, its current Great to see him get full run there at point.
00:56:25
With the cash in Weston gone, I don't think he's gonna be as good as him.
00:56:28
But he's gonna be perfect as a point guard.
00:56:31
That does exactly what he needs him to dio.
00:56:34
Who do you think the assist guy is? Is a watch or is it someone else in this lineup because they don't really like to pass the ball? No, not really.
00:56:42
I think it's gonna be a mix of Henry.
00:56:47
And I mean, I think, honestly, it'll be more mixed of Henry and whole guard if he's running points off the bench because lawyers, because lawyers always gonna just be a spot up guy, he's not gonna be passing the ball that much.
00:57:05
Um, Watts is looking to score first, so I mean, it might be lots e.
00:57:12
I think it has to be, because if Winston could score and he was all of their assists last year, so I think is that is gonna force Watts to put that into his ****nal.
00:57:22
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
00:57:23
Henry was already at three assists a game last year.
00:57:26
I think he could take a step up with Winston gone and then just Langford as a redshirt senior, he know he knows when to make the past.
00:57:39
It doesn't have to be a a ton of assist every game, but it's gonna be the crucial assist when they need them.
00:57:47
It was gonna help him.
00:57:51
Yep.
00:57:52
So I think this team is definitely making it the march, but I think they're gonna be huge frauds in March.
00:57:57
So that's my bigger take from this pod.
00:58:00
You had Iowa finishing a number one, Correct.
00:58:03
Yeah.
00:58:04
Alright.
00:58:05
So I got a different squad there.
00:58:06
So let's jump to Illinois, who we both think is gonna finish, too.
00:58:11
And then we'll both get into why we think our squad from the Big 10 is gonna finish it first.
00:58:17
So the line I last season 21 10 13 and seven overall in conference to bring back 68% of their roster.
00:58:28
Huge get back in the sumo and ****burn.
00:58:31
Huge for the roster if only one of those guys were back.
00:58:36
I think we both easily have them as the six or 17.
00:58:39
Having both of them back is huge.
00:58:42
Maybe the best, not the best 112 man punch into conference, but top three there, those two run the team.
00:58:50
Trent Fraser is another nice piece there.
00:58:53
So no one coming in that they're gonna be relying on to other than Adam Miller.
00:58:58
So I'm gonna let you get into their but Underwood squad.
00:59:02
We I think they finished right around the same record from last season 13 and seven, and conference is good for this Align.
00:59:08
I've squad I losing Phillies is probably their biggest piece, but they got guys on the roster that can, whether that I'm expecting a huge year out of the line, I yeah, I wanna put.
00:59:22
I wanted to put Illinois first so bad, but I haven't seen Illinois be really good outside of last year that I don't trust myself.
00:59:33
Toe put them one to start the year, even though I think that's where they should finish at the end of the year.
00:59:38
But, I mean, the Sumo and Coburn are a lethal 12 combo.
00:59:43
And then you just throw in Fraser, Alan Griffin and, uh, But John is really sure.
00:59:52
I'll go with that, like all those guys have proven that they can be really good.
00:59:58
And then you get I mean, they have talented players coming in or actually, ****, no, Alan Griffin is gone.
01:00:06
Forgot that he's at Syracuse now.
01:00:09
What a terrible decision by him, Um, but you got Adam Miller and Andre Curbelo, who I think both deserve to play, even though it's it's not gonna be starting, but they both deserve minutes, and then Coleman Hawkins is another guy who should who should probably be the first or second forward off the bench if they wanna put them in behind Jermaine Hamlin after Georgie and Coburn.
01:00:45
But, I mean, this this team just has so much talent up and down the roster that I mean, people still didn't hate them, even if they didn't have the sumo and Coburn coming back.
01:00:57
So bringing both those guys back, I think, makes them probably like I definitely think there should be top 15 but I think they could finish somewhere inside the top 10 this year.
01:01:09
Yeah, the top 10 is just gonna be a little tough for me to get them there yet.
01:01:14
Um, I think the one piece that could be is Granderson the Holy Cross transfer.
01:01:21
If he could be that score and spark plug off the bench.
01:01:24
I think this team is well rounded out to make a long run.
01:01:28
I think they're definitely a top 25 team.
01:01:31
I just think they hang closer to 20 to 25.
01:01:34
And if this is the second overall team I have raided in the conference and I think they're this low, then that's why I think this conference.
01:01:41
I'm just look more bullish on than other people.
01:01:45
Um Yeah, Well, last great season they had was 2000 and 11 past then and last season.
01:01:51
They're very much under Big 10 average.
01:01:54
So Underwood has done nice pieces to turn this around.
01:01:57
Um, he's bringing in south pieces that we saw UConn maybe not develop our Illinois not developed the talent that they're bringing in.
01:02:05
E don't know why that went there.
01:02:07
Um, but now they're bringing in the solid freshman.
01:02:10
They're retaining them for one more season afterwards.
01:02:13
I think this is a season where if everything goes right, they could make a nice run.
01:02:19
They just cannot shoot the three whatsoever.
01:02:22
Alan Griffin was there on Lee Shooter That shot it above 30% last season.
01:02:29
So very one dimensional where they want to go.
01:02:32
They shot 30.
01:02:33
3 last season.
01:02:35
They were the 313th overall rated team there.
01:02:38
So that's one area that they define a reliable shooter and maybe that Adam Miller coming in for them.
01:02:45
I think that could be both our guards coming in.
01:02:47
I think that could be Curbelo and Miller.
01:02:50
I think they can both shoot the three at a high enough clip that would just well round them off for a nice, long run.
01:02:58
So let's get into the squad that I think's going coming in first and I'm going with the Badgers.
01:03:03
So Wisconsin Last season, 21 10 14 and six overall, as long as what's going on with the football team doesn't spread into the basketball team.
01:03:13
I think this is the top team in the conference next year.
01:03:17
Um, they are returning.
01:03:21
Let's see, Yes, 79% of the roster.
01:03:24
Uh, tryst is filthy along with Rivers is nice.
01:03:29
Um e don't know Porter or Potter.
01:03:33
He's the big piece that scares me of thinking that they could make it run deep in March because Potter good, big man, Big 10 Serviceable.
01:03:44
I don't know.
01:03:45
He His play just scares me a lot.
01:03:47
Top 25 defense from last season.
01:03:50
They ended the season on a hot roll, winning seven in a row, so I'm riding off the hot streak that they had their basically bringing back everyone who contributed last season.
01:04:00
Everyone's gonna be seniors.
01:04:02
This is where I think everything just comes together for this whisk.
01:04:06
Oh squad and Greg Guard finally gets up to the top of the Big 10? Um, yeah.
01:04:15
I mean, they have They definitely have some good guys coming in there.
01:04:20
None of their freshman are really going to need to play just because of how many seniors they have.
01:04:25
And I do like this team.
01:04:27
They're gonna third.
01:04:31
I like that.
01:04:32
They're they're gonna be the team that kind of needs the least amount of, like, the preseason like training because they all they all know each other.
01:04:39
They're all pretty much the same class.
01:04:41
I think it will.
01:04:44
I think it will make them look really good in the nonconference in early part of the schedule.
01:04:49
But I think some other teams might be ableto catch him just because it's Wisconsin.
01:04:56
They're always gonna play the low scoring defensive games.
01:04:59
And those are the teams I'm scared of because even though they have some good scores, they're not gonna put up like 70 80 points a game.
01:05:06
They're gonna sit in like the sixties most of the time, and that's what I'm afraid of For like a regular season team is that if another team gets hot even against their good defense, and they could get caught by teams who are objectively worse than them.
01:05:24
I think I think it makes them better in March Madness when they get there, because this seems definitely going to get to March.
01:05:30
Madness is here.
01:05:32
I just think it hurts them a little bit in the regular season.
01:05:37
And the thing that I'm most scared of is their best sop****re or their best player who wasn't a junior last year, and Kobe King like he's still.
01:05:49
He's still transferring.
01:05:50
It says, And he's not back.
01:05:55
Yeah, if they lose him, that's a double digit score gone.
01:05:58
And he was probably the most athletic wing guy.
01:06:01
So that's that is definitely a hole to fill.
01:06:05
And I like him.
01:06:08
I just don't like him to finish first in the regular season.
01:06:14
I don't know.
01:06:15
Rivers, I think, is the man that's going to be able to hold it down.
01:06:18
Potter is gonna have to really step it up.
01:06:20
Try is just too convincing.
01:06:22
As a gay manager, he can be a scorer or need it, but I like the way he distributes the ball.
01:06:28
He runs that whisk.
01:06:29
Oh, offense perfectly.
01:06:31
Davis is nice.
01:06:33
Ford is another salad piece.
01:06:34
I don't know your man, Ben Carlson.
01:06:36
I can't believe you're not high on him because, you know, but that's where he is.
01:06:42
Just another style of peace in that rotation.
01:06:45
I don't think they're gonna have to go very deep.
01:06:47
Their style of play.
01:06:48
The only time that go deep is when, um, someone gets into foul trouble.
01:06:52
I like their one guy up or their depth one guy back.
01:06:56
Once you go there, you're not gonna find many college teams that have it.
01:06:59
But Stephen alluded to it.
01:07:01
The reason why I like this team the most.
01:07:03
The most continuity in the conference.
01:07:05
All upperclassmen coming back.
01:07:07
Given this weird covert times, I think they're gonna be down the business the whole year.
01:07:13
Um, six losses in the Big 10 consoling you the title.
01:07:16
So if they beat up in the non con, still take care of business, drop a few, but not too many in the Big 10.
01:07:22
I think they'd come and top hard to discredit who you have next, but I like the Badgers. Stiff.
01:07:30
Finished number one.
01:07:32
Yeah.
01:07:34
So let's get toe Iowa last season.
01:07:37
20 and 11 overall.
01:07:39
11 and nine.
01:07:40
I have them in third.
01:07:42
Steven has them finishing in 1st, 78.
01:07:45
7 overall returning production from last season.
01:07:50
I know why you like this team right off the bat because they're the most offensive team probably coming back in the nation they don't really like.
01:07:59
Not that they don't like to play Big 10 style basketball, but, I mean, they have what, four scores on this roster, that they're all just deadly.
01:08:08
They're the team that is by far the peak of the offense there.
01:08:13
One defensive.
01:08:14
They are very weak defensively, 122nd overall from last season.
01:08:19
They're going to need to clean that up because, unlike Wisconsin, they like to get into your more of your running gun games.
01:08:26
Even though they don't push the pace too fast.
01:08:29
Let's hear why you think they're in common number one other than Luke Garza.
01:08:34
Hey, come on, man.
01:08:35
That Z, that's always the first point.
01:08:38
He's the big year, the year far, in a way like it's not even really gonna be close.
01:08:43
You put up 24 10 last year.
01:08:46
Even if he puts up the same numbers you got.
01:08:48
I love, I really do like Joey's camp.
01:08:51
Mm, that's your best 12 punch in the Big 10.
01:08:55
Yeah, who can probably play like the small forward, and he's another 15 and five guy. Easy.
01:09:02
Um, C J.
01:09:03
Frederick and Joe Tucson can browned out the back court.
01:09:09
And then, um I mean, I think, are the McCaffrey's.
01:09:15
Are those friend McCaffrey's kids feeling that the top of my head? I mean, they're both from Iowa City, Iowa, and they got the same last name.
01:09:25
So I'm gonna say their friend McCaffrey's kids, even if they aren't because there's too many similarities there.
01:09:31
Um, I mean, they both I think Conner McCaffrey is gonna be very good this year, even if he's coming off the bench, because even though he only scored six points a game, he does everything for that team because he was a six point game guy.
01:09:47
He had four rebounds and four assists, so if you need somebody thio run point, he can run point.
01:09:55
Um, Patrick McCaffrey was a freshman last year, but he was, ah, lot more highly regarded than his brother.
01:10:04
And even though he's only putting up three points a game last year with Ryan, uh, crying only played two games last season So that's why McCaffrey barely scored.
01:10:15
Yeah, but I think I think with Kreiner out, um, that kind of gives McCaffrey more space toe possibly move up into that starting or just coming off the bench forward role because he's gonna be between like him And, like Jack and Noon gay for the other guy playing alongside Garza.
01:10:38
So I mean, when you have the best player in the league, you have ah, lot of really good point guards.
01:10:47
Um e mean, you hate losing Jordan Bohannon because he was kind of the heart and soul of that team.
01:10:55
But I think I think they just have way too much coming back.
01:10:59
And then a guy in, uh, Aaron Ulis, who could be a good guard off the bench, even though none of their I'm not sold on any of their other recruits coming in.
01:11:11
But I don't think you need to be with a team like this.
01:11:14
That's gonna be a better scoring team than teams like Wisconsin.
01:11:18
Ah, better shooting team that a team like Illinois and a team that's gonna have the best player on the court every time he steps on the court in Garza.
01:11:28
I feel like I feel like that's the safest pick to go.
01:11:30
Number one.
01:11:32
I can't disagree with you there because you just didn't talk about the one weeks bond. That's defense.
01:11:37
This team could score with the best of them.
01:11:39
They could do all that.
01:11:40
But until they can show me that this defense is top 100 top 75 good in the Big 10 I think that's just gonna come back to bite you.
01:11:49
More often than not, I can 100% agreed thes games.
01:11:53
They're gonna be must watch next season.
01:11:55
They're going to be a top offense in the hole country, but three and three and close games Last season against Quad One A, they went one in six.
01:12:05
They need to beat the top teams.
01:12:07
I just I know they're bringing everyone back.
01:12:09
Maybe they just mesh in jail that much better one year together.
01:12:13
Um, that helps them get there.
01:12:16
But I don't know.
01:12:17
I just don't think it's there yet.
01:12:19
This season they did beat Wisconsin in their one matchup last year, 68 to 62 so you can have that one there.
01:12:26
But I'm gonna ride the Badgers.
01:12:28
Steven's gonna ride Iowa to take home the Big Ten's chip that we both think is going to be highly contentious.
01:12:35
But do you really think there's a legit March team? Do you think Iowa could make the Final Four? I think I think any of those top three teams we talked about can all make the Final Four.
01:12:48
I think Illinois can do it if they find shooters.
01:12:51
I think Wisconsin can do it just because of how well their style of defense plays in March.
01:12:57
And I think if I will get hot from three, they got the rebounder in the middle.
01:13:03
I think they can.
01:13:05
If they get on a hot shooting streak, they could make the Final four, too.
01:13:08
So I think there's three teams that have a possibility of making it.
01:13:12
Yeah, the one what would have made me had this team.
01:13:15
The first is if they if I could have see them playing in March last season and in their conference tourney, I just need to be sold on them.
01:13:22
I was very high on them.
01:13:23
I thought they were contenders, but I just needed them.
01:13:26
I just needed to see this core of guys, especially guards and wheezing camp.
01:13:30
Do it together once and then I would've been riding the Hawkeye train like you are.
01:13:35
Yeah.
01:13:37
Do you have a starting five? You get to? Yes, let's get into our first team All conference started a soft at your point guard.
01:13:45
My first point guard is the my first point guards.
01:13:49
The point guard I just talked about, I'm like, Well, I guess he's not really a He's a combo guard forward.
01:13:54
I'm taking Joey's camp and I think he's gonna be a really good score.
01:14:00
I think he can.
01:14:01
I think he'll playoff ball well from the point.
01:14:04
Guards at Wisconsin are not Wisconsin point guards on his team, and I think you would play really well off the true point guard I have on my team.
01:14:12
Um, but this is like I was looking for the breakout started. Go inside. Garza.
01:14:18
I think it's gonna be weeds.
01:14:19
Camp can't can't hate that pick there.
01:14:24
I'm gonna go with Marcus Car, the Minnesota point guard.
01:14:28
He's the one that gets you 15 sticks in six, if not more.
01:14:32
I just want all the versatility and my point there to do whatever I need him to dio.
01:14:38
All right, Do you have at your other guard? So this is where I was deciding between wheeze and camp and this other one.
01:14:47
Um, I did put wise in camp there, so I'm just gonna echo what Stephen said as my starting shooting guard.
01:14:53
But Myron Jones was the one that I was most regrettable toe leave off of this roster from Penn State because I think it's gonna be a pure one man show there.
01:15:02
And I like Myron Jones that much? Yeah, for my other guard.
01:15:08
I'm staying. I'm staying big in the backcourt.
01:15:10
I want, uh, I o D soon you as my point guard.
01:15:15
He's been He's been proven how good he is the past two years.
01:15:19
He could have easily been easily could have been drafted this year.
01:15:23
I don't know if it was first round, but he was easily a draft pick this year if he stayed in the draft.
01:15:30
And I think this is the year he rounds out of his game a little bit more, he becomes a little bit more consistent of a shooter, and he just he does it all.
01:15:40
He's a good long guard, which I always like.
01:15:43
And I think he's He's Lee.
01:15:45
He's leaving the team in most categories outside of rebounding for Illinois.
01:15:52
All right, I'm going to stick their my four.
01:15:54
It's, uh I assume you.
01:15:56
So he's gonna be my small for in my line up.
01:15:59
Okay, um, from my small forward, Um e mean, some people are gonna call it going out on a limb, but I'm taking ah, Franz Wagner from Michigan.
01:16:12
I think he's gonna be what was What was his brother's name? Mo.
01:16:18
Yeah, Yeah, I walk in there.
01:16:20
I think he's gonna be just as good as Mo was by his senior year.
01:16:23
But I think he's going to do it this year as a sop****re, and I'm just super excited to see him stretch the floor B.
01:16:34
Not like a solid lock down defender, but he's gonna be like that pesky defender that you don't wanna have guarding you like he's gonna come up with those clutch steals.
01:16:43
Um, just another long guy at 68 at my small forward, I think he just does everything pretty well.
01:16:52
Who you gotta power for it at power forward.
01:16:55
I'm taking, uh, Nate Rivers from Wisconsin.
01:16:59
He's just He's kind of exactly like what Frank convinced he was for them.
01:17:04
So he's gonna be He's gonna be big doing everything like he can.
01:17:08
He can pass, he's gonna rebound.
01:17:10
He's gonna hit pretty much all his shots from inside the free throw line.
01:17:15
And he's He's been the leader for Wisconsin already.
01:17:19
So he's still gonna be the leader as a senior this year.
01:17:22
And I think you're gonna have a massive season.
01:17:25
Yeah, if I got whiskey coming, Number one.
01:17:27
You know, I got rivers there.
01:17:29
Jackson Davis was the person.
01:17:31
I regret it leaving off the most all right way.
01:17:36
Both have the same Sunder.
01:17:37
If you don't have guards that your son or what are you doing? I don't have guards as my center.
01:17:43
You don't have the player of the year from last season season.
01:17:47
That's your first team center.
01:17:48
Do you have a center P? Yeah, I'm taking the guy I think is gonna go highest in the draft.
01:17:53
Who has the most upside? And that's Coburn, Like obviously, guards has been amazing in college, but at the same time, the only thing I'm a little bit scared.
01:18:08
I mean, you can't be scared of a guy who was like on the basketball court.
01:18:13
If he's on your team, you don't.
01:18:14
You don't hate a guy who's 6 11 to 60 but at the same time, I'd rather take Coburn, who is a true seven footer at 2 90 who just dominates the glass on both sides of the ball.
01:18:25
And he hits pretty much everything he takes in the interior.
01:18:30
And I mean, I just think once he like once he reaches his potential, you're gonna look back at it.
01:18:38
Like, Why didn't people talk about him or in college? So that's why I want to give him a shout out on my first team this year.
01:18:46
Digging the bam route? Yeah, yeah, point point Kofi in the MBA.
01:18:53
I'm calling it right now.
01:18:54
Just look at this 7 ft, £300 guy and taking it out of court.
01:18:59
That's going to wrap us up of our Big 10 preview for this week.
01:19:03
If you're joining us late, I've Wisconsin.
01:19:06
Steven has Iowa.
01:19:08
Uh, we got if you want to catch the rest of our picks and where we think everyone's gonna finish re watcher stream, um, basketball is gonna be back in less than a month.
01:19:18
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So if you want to see me rant about the Dodgers and how much they suck and how much Clayton Kershaw does not deserve to be talked about is some great postseason picture because he only did it after a 16 game season.
01:19:57
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