um after that, I was ableto get a scholarship, Went to University of Miami down in South Florida.
So I've been in South Florida for majority of my life.
Um, moving forward.
I was able to get drafted.
Thank God I got drafted to the Minnesota Vikings.
I was there for two years and then that was in 2017.
And then after that, I was traded to the Dolphins.
And then now I'm here with Kansas City.
So that's what's up, man.
So that's what's up.
So changes up quick.
Hey, that's that's what people don't understand.
People always screaming.
I want to get to the NFL, get to the NFL.
Yeah, they don't understand, man.
Yeah, it is a lot.
And I would say a crazy thing is just like you don't realize.
You know, when I was younger, I didn't realize you know how much work I was putting in.
You know what I'm saying? To get myself toe where I'm at and to get myself to the goal of being an NFL, and then you look up and you're like, Boom, I'm in the NFL and you're like, Oh, Wow.
Like, this is what I've been working for, you know, since I was a little kid.
You know, things were the days that I dreamed of, you know? So it was pretty cool.
Exactly. That's what's up, man.
So let's kind of bring it back a little bit before the NFL.
So your former University of Miami hurricane? Yeah.
I'm sorry about that. You know, you are not hurricane.
Have you been watching What's going on right now with, um, I have been paying attention.
So how you feeling right now? Because right now, man, they're looking like they're looking like a team.
Thio be right now. I know.
And I'm and I'm happy and I'm proud, and I'm excited.
I'm excited to watch them every Saturday.
I goto go to the TV.
I said, Who's Miami plan? I turn it on.
So I could see them out there, you know, But no, it's exciting to watch because, you know, I was there, you know, way struggled a little bit.
Had a lot of good players on our team.
But, you know, we still struggled a little bit.
But in the years after that, you know, just, you know, it's gotten progressively better.
So I mean, just seeing them now, it's just really good, you know, and I And like, I just don't like when people are just like, Oh, my God, like that you was back that he was back.
Like, I'm just kind of more just just let the boys work, you know, let them do their thing.
You know where everybody is gonna come back when it's the right time.
You know, like, we're gonna get the right players were gonna get the right amount of winds or whatnot, you know, So, like, everybody's like all the Finns.
They're like, Oh, my God, they use coming back.
They use coming back.
It's like we've been around.
We've always had players, you know, just a matter of, you know, kind of transitioning now into the winds, which I'm really happy for him.
So yeah, and then, you know, with that man fans, fans, kind of they they kind of jump to conclusions early.
You know, they have to just like you said, just a lot of guys to play.
And then along with that man, you know, um, now, I feel like are starting to put the pieces together, not only on the field with the players, but also in the culture stuff.
I've talked to the officer line coach, coach, justice there.
And, man, when I say the kids love him like the kids love him, man.
So you know when when kids love you, when the players love you, you know how it is when the players love you, there goto war for you there.
That's very true.
When when the when your kids are the players, listen to the coach, you know, the players obviously play a lot harder.
You know, it's hard when you have a coach that you feel, you know, whatever it is separated from, or you feel like, you know, coaches and listening to you or whatnot.
And then you feel like, you know, the odd man out or whatnot.
So I guess when that happens, sometimes you know players don't play as hard as you know.
They're going to, you know, vs.
When you have that coach that you just love and you know you're just like this is great and whatnot so exactly.
I mean, that's true.
That's true, man.
We all had that coach that were like, man, we all have both sides.
We all had that coach that we was like, I don't really like him.
Don't really want to be around him.
And we also have that coach where we was like, man.
Like I love this guy.
Like, I would go to war for this guy all day, every day.
So kinda so kinda moving forward a little bit.
So, you know, playing that, um, making it to the probes.
What was the biggest transition from college to pro that you feel like you had to make? I mean, honestly, the biggest transition, I would say which just be getting adjusted to the strength and speed of the game.
Honestly, I felt like mentally I was there.
I mean, almost there.
I didn't I didn't when I first got there, I didn't have, like, the NFL playbook down, but coming from Miami, you know, they had a pro style offense.
So, coming from a pro style offense, just toe another pro style offense, it was just like we kind of run a lot of similar things, you know, just different terminology for it, you know? But it was really good, though.
That's good, you know, because I get I get different mixed answers, man, you know, But one of the consistent ones is what you said, right? The speed of the game, getting used to the power.
You know, you're dealing with grown man now, guys whose feet trying to feed the kids.
And you got this rookie that's coming in, that's trying to take my spot.
So, you know, the transition is a lot different, man.
11 of the biggest things.
I felt that Ah, lot of guys, um, answered towards that question Waas one of the biggest transitions where just the fact of in college there was more of a tight knit, you know, it was it was more, you know, everyone.
That's kind of together.
You know, the next point I was going to stay just mean in college, just like I used to.
Super tight knit.
You know, you talk to all the all the guys on the offensive linemen because you've been around them for four or five years, you know, You know that next year you're going to see these guys again or whatnot.
In two years, you're going to see these guys again.
So you what We type great group.
I mean, moving to the NFL, it's a little different.
You could find those friends and those guys that you're gonna be there with.
But it's different because you change.
You could change teams like my instance.
I was with Minnesota and I was with Miami that I'm now with the Chiefs, you know? So it's like, kind of it's a little different.
You know? You still need great guys everywhere you go, you know? But it's not like college.
You're not gonna be.
Oh, in college gets out, right? Exactly.
Yeah, that was one of the biggest things.
You know, you one year in NFL one year, you might be there the next year, you know, and not necessarily.
It's something that you might have there you might have done.
It might have been just, you know, the situation somebody might have traded for you or whatever the case may be.
So now that's definitely one of the biggest things that guys have definitely told me about.
Oh so kind of going back a little bit.
You said that you was Ah, draft pick, right? It was a draft pick.
Eso What round did you go? E went in the fifth round.
I think it would pick 1 80.
Believable pick e mean, forget the day you get drafted, right? Fifth round, pick 1 80 to the Minnesota Vikings.
So Okay, so you get drafted, which is a dream of everyone.
Every every person that plays football, and I want to make it 10 NFL.
That's their goal.
The goal is to get drafted, right? So you can mark one.
You check one off, right? You check one off and you get drafted.
So what was that? What was that feeling? What was that feeling of? Just like you accomplish something that everyone is trying to accomplish.
I mean, it was it was great, man.
It was amazing getting drafted.
I mean, I loved it.
I would definitely put it down as one of the best days, you know, over my life.
You know, it was also a stressful day, too, because, you know, you're waiting for that call.
You know, just like everybody else is waiting for that call.
and you're just sitting there like, Oh, my gonna get called earlier.
I'm not gonna call later, Bond.
Then finally, you do get that call, and it's just like it just kind of like a little weights just lifted off your shoulders, you know? So it was It was a blessing, you know, Really, it was amazing.
So I enjoyed it a lot, But that's when that's when the real work started, though.
That's what everyone everyone's like, man.
All the glory, all the lights, all the cameras and all that stuff, man.
But soon as you want, you have to understand.
Once you get drafted, that's when it really work.
Has to be put in out.
That's when the real work starts.
It was like the glitz and glamour of getting drafted.
It's nice, beautiful.
But then all this whole boom, you go to your team and you're at your team.
Now it's time for you, toe, you know, put on a show, you know, show them why you got drafted.
You know, play good.
You know that Z what you're there for? You know you're in the NFL now, so now you gotta work.
You gotta do all the things.
All the little things that you were doing before, Pretty much that got you.
And so whatever it is in tow, high school into college, you know, just doing all the little things.
You know, training, whatever you were doing to get you toe where you're at.
Yeah, that's huge.
That's huge, man.
And you know, I know that's one thing that every player, every football player that plays this game, that's one of the goals that I know that they have, you know, marked.
So yeah, man way met what we met over a year.
I think it was three years ago because I was still in Minnesota.
But I remember I go out to your some of the training sessions with some of the other, like the younger kids do have out there, the youth group or whatnot.
And I tell them the same thing.
I tell them money like this is the stuff that got me to where I'm at now, you know, like just working on doing this stuff, doing, you know, drills.
You know, all this stuff.
So is just doing the little things and not getting tired of him right.
And it's crazy, I think.
Yeah, I think you're right.
It had to be over a year ago, because, ah, lot of those guys that you first met there in college.
Now, man, a freshman.
So, yeah, it had to be a little over a year ago after me.
All right, so so eso moving forward.
So you you said so you play for the bike and you play for the Dolphin is currently with the Chiefs.
So what may each organization, in your opinion, unique e mean, what made him each e mean everyone? Everyone's a little bit different.
I mean, going up to the Vikings, I mean, have a really good organization up there running ****, Um, from from the front office toe all the way down, you know, to being on the field.
They do everything, I guess, top notch, you know, on going to the Dolphins.
And I think I think the thing that that was different and that was cool, you know, going from team to team was nice and whatnot, but you kind of really understand.
You know how different teams operate, You know, in certain ways, you know, there are offenses or whatever it is, you know.
But, I mean, the transition from the from Minnesota to the Dolphins was good.
It was different.
I got to play a little bit, Mawr, you know, kind of the coaches see you, you know, in a different light.
Every team you go to, You know, now I'm with the Chiefs, so I mean, I feel like the chiefs reminds me of Minnesota.
Kind of in a way, you know, like, really good organization.
You know, everybody is kind of, you know, happy, you know, doing their own thing and whatnot.
So that's cool. That's cool.
I know. I remember.
So you was with the Dolphins? It was with the Dolphins.
I remember, uh, Bryan Flores, you know, coming from New England.
And so tell me tell me a little bit about about those practices, because I know, I know.
When I was with New England, I know that thing reminded me of going back to college.
Man e wasn't in New England with with flow, but he was Obviously, we're in Miami together for a year.
I mean, great coach.
I mean, he's always on his, you know, he's always on his P's and Q's.
Um, he's gonna coach you hard.
He's gonna hold you accountable.
You know, like everything that a coaching body is pretty much, you know, like, he's not gonna let you slip.
He's not gonna let you slide.
He's gonna call you out if you're doing bad.
If you're doing good, he'll let you know.
But no, I mean, Coach, Coach forces good practices where? I mean, we're rough.
I mean, coming from Minnesota in Miami, I used some guys over ****ing game, like Miami practices are up there like 80 degrees outside.
It was like and it's a crazy thing to was like I did it in Miami like I did it for five years.
I was in Was that look to Miami for five years? I practiced in that heat, you know, already.
Then I wanted to Minnesota all that cool.
Nice breeze and I came down.
It was just like, man, I was just drinking Pedialyte and getting high e It was, you know, it was it was good.
It had you sport a little bit a little bit.
Yeah, man, I went up there and I was like, Oh, man, it feels good outside, You know, like 75 degrees, Like from South Florida.
If you're from South Florida, like 75 degrees, that's a cool day.
You know, any any day? Yeah.
Cool. You know? Yes.
So, Yeah, that's cool.
I mean, that's cool.
I mean, and then if you look at it, though, you're going from one extreme to another.
You know, you've got snow days.
You got, you know, the 20 degree, 15 degree weather.
Probably sometimes in a single digits.
So now you're going to Miami where you know, you're going 90 sometimes even 100 you know? So, yeah, you got the best of both worlds, man.
You went to one extreme to another.
So it's practice by yourself for riel.
So your party all over the place? Yeah.
So we so right now the audience got, you know, get got Thio know you a little bit more.
You know, your journey, your path.
So now I want to kind of transition toe a little bit of officer line play.
Okay, So my first question for you, right, is what does the officer line position mean to you? Because I know.
Last week, right? Last week we talked.
I talked with everyone a little bit about what it meant to me and just to kind of, um go back to what I talked about Waas.
You know, just taking pride in what you do.
You know, everything that you do.
Taking pride in it.
Um, making sure that your football I Q is top notch.
Um, making sure that you're maximizing your opportunity, improving each each step.
You know, like you said, practice training.
Um, also your meetings and then paying attention to detail with everything that you do, man.
Perfection? Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, this is such a It's such a broad, you know, obviously topic to hit on.
But I mean, what it means to me is I mean, it's everything is everything I've known.
Obviously from the time I started playing football, you know, football's taught me a lot, you know? It's taught me discipline.
It's taught me thio, you know, never give up.
Its taught me that a plan on lines told me that you're gonna have some good days.
You know, you're gonna have some bad days.
Um, you know, never never give up on yourself.
Never get to down.
Never get to up.
You know, that's that's kind of my mentality.
Just kind of keep a level head, Um, and always, just like you said, like football, like you, like you're gonna have to, like, we play one of those positions where you're gonna be on the field, 80 snaps.
You're gonna have to know the defense.
You know, you're gonna have to know, you know, a lot of things, you know, like a lot more than other players, you know, on the on the field, aside from the quarterback, you know, But, um, no, it's It means a lot to me, you know, It's e I mean, it's hard.
It's hard to describe it, but it's just like, yeah, it means a lot, you know, just I mean working.
And every day just grind in and just going through it and appreciating, you know, the work that you put in, you know, the work that you put in, you put your body through and whatnot.
So and one thing I I definitely had to mention because you kind of reminded me when you was answering.
Is that you you have toe when playing officer line.
You have to understand that you're gonna put in so much work constantly.
And you have to be prepared not to get the purpose and the glory.
You have to You have to expect that.
So planned officer line man, you're gonna put a whole bunch of work in.
But don't be surprised when you do not get the glory.
Don't get the old man great job because obviously they care about the ball carriers way, do all the dirty work.
We're the last people to get the recognition, but at the same time, they need us to play the game to you know what I'm saying? Yeah, if we know in the field is it's 707 Exactly.
They need Thio, right? So so So going along with that, right? The officer line position and things like that.
So last week I talked about right last week I talked about this was one of the biggest questions that was asked to me is, do you think it's important to learn all five positions? Yes, I think we have to.
I mean, just being I mean, just being in the NFL, I think that.
I mean, I came in as a guard, right? And I think of the game.
When I became that fell, I thought I thought of game as a guard.
Right. So I'm learning my position.
I'm learning, right? I'm learning left.
I'm learning this Onley.
Until I started thinking of the game, Really? As a center, I saw my head progress to my place, progressing and understanding a little bit more.
And then more, you know of each position, like, you know, You know, let's say you don't even play some.
You know, Barb, if you know stuff, you know, left tackle, if you know, right tackle.
You know what everybody is gonna do on the field? You know? You know what the defense is gonna do? You know what I'm saying? It's a lot.
I would say, Like, learn every position.
Even if you don't play every position.
I don't play tackle, but I know what the tackles we're gonna do.
You know, I don't play center that often, but I know what the centers.
We're gonna do it just like I was saying.
Like once I started thinking of the game as the center and really breaking it down as the center because I feel like the centers are like the brain of the offensive line.
You know, they direct traffic in there, you know.
So for if you turn from one of those players, that's like, Okay, I'm over here.
I'm waiting for the call, right.
I'm waiting for this.
This and that from center.
I mean, a lot of people do it waiting.
Recall to you turn into that player that you're like, OK, I already know what's what's gonna happen.
You know, I'm just kind of waiting for the center to confirm or or not, you know? So I think just learning every position is just is really good, you know, mentally.
And and the kind of give you Ah, Glimpse.
I was one of those players, man.
So my center at U.
F is the one that's behind the camera, Joey.
And you know, that was me.
I was always looking to him and hey, wait.
A lot of people do it like, and it's like, yeah, until you get into a rhythm of if you have a smart splinter, you have a good guy, you know, you're just gonna, you know, kind of get complacent.
Just gonna kinda chill on one time, like nobody's perfect one time.
Well, there messes up, or somebody else messes up, and then you might be stuck because you don't really know anything.
You know, some of the more.
You know, I feel like the more you know, the better you will be. As a player, they're better.
Your offensive line will be all together as a unit.
You know, the better you work together.
So I think knowing multiple positions will help you out of football completely.
I mean, that that's definitely true, man.
And and like, you have to be.
This is the one position I could say that all five guys have to be on the same page.
It has to be on the same page, the next position that I would say it's kind of similar to what Officer Lyman do and has to kind of be on the same page is the secondary.
They have to all kind of on the same page that the safety in the corners, down on the same page, somebody's gonna get bombed.
And whatever the case may be, but as the offensive line as an offensive lineman, we all have to be on the same page.
The center has to know what the guards and the Tigers were doing, and vice versa.
Everyone has to understand that.
And if one got messes up, man, nine times out of 10 it's probably gonna be a bad play.
You know, you might have a received or you might have a running back or a ball care that could make something happen.
But it's probably gonna be a bad play.
True and like, just like how you said, I feel like not just offensive often in general, you know, alludes on offense.
Like if you have one busted play on offense or used to say, Receiver doesn't in the right route offensive line bus to play running back.
But this you know that negative play the offense.
You know, it's something like it's something like that happens on defense, you know? I mean, it could happen.
A blown coverage, you know, defensive lineman is not in his gap, you know.
Somebody else might tackle him.
It might go on this Ugo offense.
It's way more noticed when mistakes happen often.
That's true, because everybody, everybody is watching what's going on on office, man.
And everyone is quick to blame the Office of Line quickly, no matter what happens.
Eso So next question, in your opinion, right, What is? What do you think? The biggest transition, whether you play center guard or tackle.
So if I'm a guard? What what? In your opinion, what is the biggest transition if I had to play center or the biggest transition if I had to play tackle and vice versa? If I have, if I was a taco moving into guard or playing center plant being inside guy, um, I would say, Honestly, I would say, Just knowing your opponent, you know, knowing who you're going against, just like always said, like knowing multiple positions and being smart of your position, knowing what's gonna happen, knowing the play that you're gonna learn, knowing what the defense is gonna do.
There's a lot of there's a lot of guys in the NFL that let's say aren't might not be so talented, but they're so smart when it comes to football.
They have such good football like that.
They could put themselves in a position to win, if that makes sense, you got playing like they're smart. They know.
Hey, like, you know, safety rotation.
You know, this guy is gonna come here.
This guy's gonna come off the sly whatnot.
They could tell what's gonna happen with the defense before it happens.
Meaning, like, you're not gonna be caught off guard, You know, you're not gonna look bad.
You know what? Your you know what's gonna happen.
So I would say, Just get on your football, like you knowing understanding defense's, um even if you're at the college level, high school level, don't be afraid to ask questions.
You know, like, don't be afraid to pull your coach to the side.
And like, Oh, Coach, what is this defense here? Because going through high school and even a little bit of colleges, just like I didn't know.
I didn't know really how to break down a defense.
You know, I didn't know what certain pressures were.
I didn't know how to read, you know, safety rotation or something like that.
Or like, this guy is back up this Nick Nichols top.
Something like that.
These pressures coming, you know, I didn't know that stuff until I really got to the NFL in that kind of, like broke it down for me.
And it's just like, yeah, like this is what the more you could understand the defense, um, or it's gonna make our jobs easier.
You know what I'm saying? That's what else I think.
One thing that helped me so so for me, Like my whole my whole career.
Prior Thio, the NFL.
I've always played taco, right? And there's no business.
Why I should have been playing tackle, right? But I had, you know, pretty good feet and things like that and, um, transitioning into the NFL.
I've always played guard, never touch tackle eso.
I've always played guard.
I was always a guard.
So one thing that kind of help me transition from each position, like you said, is knowing the position, knowing what you have to do.
So one thing that one of my coaches always taught me was key in my triangle, all right, so keep trying.
Whatever that try and go it.
So if I might tackle is usually the and the background safety, right? That's what I'm That's what I'm kidding.
So those three strings, right? That that I'm pulling the strings right there.
So something is one of these three guys don't allow me toe Know what's happening with the defense.
Right? When I moved in to guard, it was the same thing, right? Ken? In certain place, I'm kidding the same thing, right tackle, linebacker Thio.
Or might be a nose, whatever the type of defense they get me.
So that was one thing that kind of helped me.
So I agree with you on the sense of knowing what's going on out there.
Just, like, understand? Like like tackle.
You learn your triangle guard, you learn your triangle.
I'm saying, like, knowing multiple positions you could no more than just your triangle.
You know what I'm saying? It's really when you start to open up that triangle, then that's when you know, like, what else is coming? One of their defense is air coming, etcetera.
So Right, that's true.
I mean that that's definitely true.
Um, so another another thing that, um, I talked about as far as with the transition in moving in from inside to outside or perimeter guy is measurement.
You know why? Why is it hard for guard to play taco or center to play taco.
Usually you don't know what measurements where you have center or inside guy.
That's between 6264 usually right, so he's shorter arms.
So that's one reason why it's harder for a guy to transition to the outside and bursa right and vice versa.
You have a guy who's six between 65 and 67 and if he's trying to transition to the inside player, Usually things were happening faster, where he's usedto kind of kicking out a little bit more where things are kind of happening.
Donald's in front of you, right? You gotta have a strong punch and things happening a lot faster.
And the thing I would say that is like, absolutely, absolutely right.
It's just like moving a center.
You know, a guy with shorter arms out to the outside is gonna be harder.
It's gonna be He's physically challenged, you know, like literally, you know, moving a guy from tackle to center.
You know, it's gonna be It's harder on the body.
Everybody's body moves differently, you know, So it's it's definitely it's definitely a different, you know, transition and whatnot.
So talking a little bit about technique now.
So when you're when you're lining up, you know it's the past.
A past protection, right? What are some of the keys that you're like, What are you can in pass protection? So if you can kind of take me step by step, like what's important for you when you're lining up and you know it's a pass protection, like, What are you focusing on? What do you can? What are you looking at? Um, whether it's like the defense, whether it's a certain a certain person, that viewpoint against a certain technique, whatever case may be.
I mean, first thing I want to do when I get up there is, you know, go like literally.
What I do is I go over the play in my head, you know, go over the snap.
Count that Z number one.
You know, that's the most important thing.
Um, second to that, I mean, I'm getting down in my stance.
I'm looking at you know who who's a player, You know what type what, like what moves does he like, um, does he like to keep inside foot back when he goes inside, Does he switch up his stance? You know, certain things like that that you can key in pass protection.
But I would say another important thing is just coming out of your past, you know, with confidence, you know, coming out and, you know, striking using your hands.
You know, we do a lot of drills, you know, even back in Florida, you know, with the striking and working independent hands.
And you know, all that stuff.
And another thing too.
I would say, Is that the guard position? You know, another thing you don't want to do is just over set.
You know, I feel you want to keep inside I outside I kind of relationship to the guy toe where you have always had inside leverage because the world place to get beat is inside out, you know? You know, inside, you know, but yeah, I would just say that some of the things that I would key and like it all depends on it all depends on like who you play to, like Like, if I was saying like, for example, like certain defense, could certain defense's can tip off certain things like, Okay, this guy's a line here in the shade.
And this guy's line here in the five and the safety's coming down on the edge.
What is that gonna tell you? Oh, my God.
That doesn't tell you that defense event is going to spike inside.
You should expect that, you know? So you're not caught off guard.
And that's another reason of me saying like, No, as much as you can know, you know, when it comes to defect, therefore, you could know what's gonna happen.
Therefore, you know, you look better, right? I mean, that that's definitely true, man, because, um, I know, like in pass protection, I always talk about man, You know, 11 thing is your set Quickness, right? Like you said, get out of your stands on.
And then the next one is getting to your spot.
Same thing that you said right now, over.
Set it, Get into your keep your eye on his inside on his inside, uh, keeping it inside leverage.
And then the third thing is your strike right again, starting to fight.
So I definitely agree with everything that you just said, man.
And it's important like that.
Those three things are something that I live by in pass protection, right? Getting out of your stance.
How quick can I get into my stand into my set? Get into my spot, That spot that's intersecting me and that between me and the, uh, in the quarterback, you know, um and then the third thing is your strike right again.
A strike on the on, the defendant taking the fight, taking the fight.
Him either aggressive E.
I mean, this is just like a lot of people said, Pass protection is not passive, right? You know, be the be the one that makes first touch, you know, don't wait.
The more you wait in your past set, the more the more time they have to do all these head shake moves and get your all messed up, get messed up.
And you're all cross and double stepping like then then that's a whole different world, you know, like, so be the aggressor, you know, take a good set.
Be confident your set.
You know, I would say a big thing is like being confident, you know, and what you do and what you do out on the field.
You know, don't go out there with a negative attitude.
Don't go out there and get down in your stance and think, Oh, my God.
I'm going against his really good player like this is gonna be bad.
E think that you should think in your head, You know, going out where confident Take your set is confident as you could take it, you know, And that's always gonna help you I feel like 100% confidence is key, man, everything that you do, So I definitely feel you on that.
Confidence is key.
With everything that you're doing, you cannot go.
You cannot look at Aaron Donald and say, Man, Aaron Donor was about to beat me.
Oh, he's another human being, right? He's tryingto he's trying to defeat me, and I'm trying to defeat him.
So yeah, it would be like, My God, a little Matt's gonna get a sack on me right now like you have to go out there confident like you're a good player to, you know, out there, take you, take a good set, use good fundamentals.
You this good technique, you know, you'll get the job done.
So So is that kind of the same approach that you take in the run game is well, so if I know you have.
So let's say you have Ah, inside zone, for instance, Inside zone and you're on the front side, right front side of incised on.
And you're dealing with the three tax.
What is your What is your approach to that? I mean, my approach is really I mean, I'm coming off the ball.
I'm taking kind of like a lateral.
I want to say like a lateral lead.
It's not kind of like a forward step, right, like a lateral lead.
And I'm getting my second foot almost to, like, not the crotch.
But like I'm getting my second foot to his the framework of his body.
Keep in mind that place side.
I'm not like I'm not winding up with my hands right like you can't really see on camera but winding up with my hands when we wind up with our hands and then we strike.
That's when you know the defensive line gets all in your chest and give up your chest or whatnot.
So really just keeping my eyes down, keeping my Miami points, right? Getting my hat play side, Um, and just striking, keeping my hands inside type, you know, and not like I said, winding up.
You know, there's a lot of different techniques, honestly, that you could use, that there's a lot of different techniques I've been taught, you know, to use.
There's, uh um, there's a technique that I was talking Minnesota, you know, just bringing that back, side, catch, hand, right so e can't describe it really online.
But I like bringing that back side catching and I'm trying to show you, but I can't Let's say you're going right, you know, just bringing that back side catch here and kind of like engulfing the defender.
Therefore, they don't work back over your face.
You know, when the running back makes a reader, What not so that's Conrad.
But like I said, there's many different techniques.
You could use that with your hand on the outside, but you don't want to get called for a holding.
Keep your eyes inside.
You know, there's a lot of different ways people doing a lot of different ways.
I've seen people do it, too, So wait, we're gonna create.
I was just kind of saying you kind of have to find what works for you, right? Yeah, Because everyone, everyone is different way and we can create trill tape to man so we can show people to I will.
I will get back down there.
When I get back down there, we'll make a tape of it.
Yeah, let's do it.
So on outside zone, let's say you're outside on now.
So what's the What's the technique on that? You on the front side, You still have a three front side.
I still have the three.
I'm thinking similar.
It's gonna be a little bit wider.
One thing you don't wanna do is like you don't wanna get turned to the sideline.
You always want to stay square, even even on inside the zone.
You want to stay square and really like that technique.
I was talking about bringing that back side catching like you could use that more on outside zone, you know, versus inside zone, because you really kind of have to stretch the defender.
You know, I believe I fully believe in making first contact, you know, so taking, taking your steps and making that first contact keeping your hands inside and staying square The line of scrimmage, I think are the most important things.
Okay? Yeah, man, that Zatz Definitely great insight.
Um, I know people are listening and writing notes now because, you know, everyone has their own technique.
Like you said, everyone has their own technique.
Everyone, um you know, that works for them.
One technique that somebody might use it might not work for somebody else because it might be body type.
Might be flexibility.
Might be whatever the case may be, you're 100% right.
And just like what you're saying, like you have a shorter arms.
It might be harder for you to get your hands on a defender in a certain certain block, you know? So you don't have to do with a certain way that somebody else's isn't doing it just to get done, right? E said there's many ways there's many ways to do it.
So now this part of the show All right, Now we're gonna have a little fun now.
All right? We're gonna have a little fun transition a little bit, um, transition a little bit Teoh a little bit more fun. All right.
I have three questions.
I have three questions for you.
All right, For the first one.
So the first one who is the hardest defense alignment that you face? Uh oh, that's a tough.
That's a tough one.
What's up? One? Okay, um, man, let me get the next question.
Let me think about that and we'll come back.
Thio Let me think about that.
I'm telling you, you might.
You might do the same thing on this next question.
So give me your so your head coach, your head coach.
Right now, Give me your five office of linemen that you're taken.
Offensive lineman for working left tackle.
That that you that that you want on your team as your starters? Oh, All right.
I'm gonna mix it up a little bit because there's some guys that I know that I like the way they play.
I'm gonna go Trent Brown, you know, from my right tackle.
Should I go right? S so many others.
You know, uh, e o C Ah, no, no.
Okay, you're doing that.
Because what do you want, man? Yeah, man.
You know, I gotta show my boys love, but hell, um, at the center, um, I take my boy Kelsey.
Okay, Uh, and left guard.
We see I'm take and take my boy Eric flowers in Miami.
Okay, Never mind any boy, that's all you showing favoritism, man.
You show your favorite is what? I would do it.
I said I was gonna do it a little different, you know? Okay.
And then left tackle, left tackle.
I'm gonna have to take, um okay.
So much, So many. I know.
Said turn Williams.
Yeah, probably. Yeah.
E definitely got so like I said, there's there.
I mean, there's so many good guys out there.
It's hard to pick a squad, you know, it's because, like how, like, like, pick those guys like they do like, they do these things good, but they like, there's other guys out there that do certain things better.
You know, it's all different.
Exactly, because I had also two weeks ago, I had just McCray with the falcons on him, and it was the same thing that he's like, man, hold on.
No can be changed that, you know.
So, you know, you have so many guys out there, so it's hard to just say, Okay, I have just 85,000.
So do you want to kind of go back to that? Who was the hardest defense alignment for you? Oh, man, I would say I mean, one of the hardest defensive lineman played was, uh, uh, Grady.
Jared was pretty good when he was with Atlanta.
E would say he was top one.
At least at least I've gone again because, I mean, I kind of played sparingly in games.
You know, I haven't I haven't really been a designated starter, but at least I would, I would say, um, yeah, so and then come on and then coming out and then coming out of college, I would definitely say Aaron Donald, because I played home here.
I mean, I played him in Pittsburgh, and that was okay.
So? So how tall is great? Because he looked like he he's a shorter dude. That's the thing.
He's a shorter guy like that.
It's the shorter guys, you know, those guys with low center of gravity.
The guys that like Aaron Donald, you know, like I would say, Aaron, Donald, But I've never physically played against Aaron.
Don't you know what I'm saying? But it's those guys nowadays with those low center of gravity is, you know, really super strong, You know? You know, if you're 66 you know, whatever.
It's kind of hard for you.
Get your hands on somebody lower than you, you know? So, no, that's so for my last question.
All right, last question of the night.
And this is something that a lot of people want to know, right? I was getting this all over my instagram.
What is it, like playing with Patrick Mahomes? What is it, like playing with bachelor homes? I mean, I mean, it is great, man.
I mean what you see, Uh oh.
I feel like what you see on TV you get It's not like there's no, like, phony gim****s, like he's the truth.
You know? He's the real deal, you know, through and through, You know? So just watching him practice toe, you know, the way he conducts the offense the way he conducts the huddle true leader.
I mean, that's cool, man.
Just And that's something I definitely wanted to know to, man, because, you know, when when I was with the pages, people used to ask me all the time and what is like playing with Tom Brady, and I said the same thing, like what you see is what you get, like, he's genuine guy.
And then, you know, I want to know the same thing.
Like I was passing my home like, Is he? How is he a practice like the same thing that he does in the game? I'm pretty sure he doesn't in practice exactly the same thing.
He doesn't e does that practice, you know, like it's crazy.
But that's who he is.
And it's like when I first got here, you know, you think like, Oh, my gosh, because you know, some players is like, really do better in games and they do in practice.
But it's just like that's what he does.
He like literally, and he'll go out of the game and he'll do it.
He'll make those throws look easy, you know, so nationalist start as you.
That's huge man, but hey, Danny.
Man, I appreciate you coming on with us taking the time out of your busy schedule, uh, to get on, man.
Um, definitely be seeing you in the off season.
We're definitely gonna get after it a little bit more.
Um, once again, man, I appreciate you for coming on.