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quick stream that we're gonna have here.
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My name is Michael Lawson.
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As you can see, I also have my Twitter handle on here.
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It's M.
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D Lawson, 00 I think we're a lot of streaming it through from Facebook, Twitter and even SportsCastr as well.
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Uh, case, you're not on one of those on my SportsCastr.
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It's M d lawson. 00 U. S.
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And I'm associated with the unwrapped sports network.
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As you can see on Connie screen, there are little logo you could tap in USN on the sports bar Right there. Connie.
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Thank you.
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And you can actually find anyone associated with the unwrapped sports network.
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We appreciate all follows.
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We appreciate all locks, and I just wanna go ahead and say thank you guys for being on on the show.
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I've got Connie over here to my left to looking a little pretty with the hair today.
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You must actually condition this morning.
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Didn't. Yeah.
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No, I've never You know, I'm not a fan of conditioner shampoo.
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Only shampoo only.
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Okay, well, you're not a fan of Adam Sandler.
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Then Billy Madison conditioner makes the hair and silk smooth.
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But as we joke around with this, um, super excited today.
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As you can see down here, we don't have the screen on it, but you could see his name is Jagger. Burton Jagger.
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Thank you so much for joining the show.
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He's actually a four star recruit right now in high school at Frederick Douglass in Kentucky, which is where I'm from.
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As you can see behind me, you've got all these things here.
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Thank you so much for coming onto the show, man. Yeah.
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Thank you for having me.
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We just kind of wanna what the show is about.
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If you could see in the headlines were just talking little college football on Just I've been interested in this since I've been starting with Unwrapped Sports Network.
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I've covered from MLB, but mostly Cincinnati Reds.
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If you've watching my streams has changed out.
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Still got my bobble heads down here.
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Just, uh, they're dropped down a row.
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But from football to basketball, loved MBA course.
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College basketball is about to start back up soon.
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And a big blue nation.
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We love sports and we love football now Kentucky.
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And it's wonderful about that. Mr.
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Burton actually has when it had committed to Kentucky.
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I think last month I think it was, like around the 27th.
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So we're excited on here.
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We've got a few questions here, but before we get to mawr depth into this.
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We're already two minutes.
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I'm gonna let Connie go ahead and pay the bills as he likes to stay on his stream.
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But now we'll go ahead and get on into this again.
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Jack, thank you so much for joining me here.
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I'm glad I did not listen to my wife because I would be calling you Yeager.
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And then I've been looking like a fool.
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So hunting, if you're watching, which I hope you are, I love you.
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and I asked you before we went love.
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So we're just gonna ask a few questions, Connie, we'll just go back and forth.
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I'll take the first one.
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You do the second one, and we just kind of go from there.
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And Jagger, as your response will kind of maybe interrupt with another questions that we just wanna add onto.
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It sounds good.
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Sounds good.
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All right.
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So you are a senior.
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You will be enrolling next year with with Kentucky, you know, changing your mind, right? Ah, yes, sir.
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Yes.
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Okay, uh, tell us some of the highs and lows as far as being recruited.
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And I know I've sent you this list.
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You've had some time to think about it.
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So hopefully nothing will be to spot on you there where you don't know what to say.
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So go ahead with that.
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What are some of the highest that you've had to deal with? And it could be anywhere from go into some of these camps, learning new techniques or even it could just be beating certain people.
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Just whatever you think is the highest thing that you've been able to experience in some of the lows as far as being recruited, Um, I would say the lows would be like, early in, like my recording process when no one was really looking at me and you don't know like he was looking at you because, like, until you're a junior, I think colleges can't talk to you like legally or anything and all of them, like all that role, really strictly because it's like, strictly enforced.
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So you never really know, Like, who's looking at you like your first offers, like always, really like a big surprise because only coach can like, um no, basically, who want u s.
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So whenever I got offered by Kentucky, that was like the first time I recruiting everything before That was probably kind of low E didn't play a lot my freshman year whenever I was my old high school L c a.
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And then that kind of motivated me whenever I switched schools.
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Um, I started from sop****re now, so I got all my offers after my sop****re season, a good amount of them.
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But I would say like some of the heuser, you'd be like, really cool people like sitting and like Coach Saban offered me like being in his office and seeing him in real life.
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And Coach Sweeney offered me seeing him in real life, stuff like that.
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And then obviously, Coach Stoops being from Kentucky, how big of a deal that was to me, and that was my first offer.
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But one of the things like stands out, is my Ohio State visit.
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You know, you hear about like, Justin Fields, Chase Young.
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All those guys, never.
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They were there, and I actually got to meet those guys and talk to those guys before they play Penn State whenever I was there. So that's pretty cool.
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And, um, yeah, that's probably that's definitely one of the highest that just fixed out off the land.
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If we Oh, okay, now, probably I'd say mid Covic going on here.
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Ah, lot of people I love for 20 or so your 24 7 sports.
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My boss at work calls that 247 I'm not sure what it really is called, but ah, lot of them at first started picking that you were going to go to Ohio State.
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Is there Were they wrong on that? Was it always Kentucky? Or was it really in there because I know me live in Kentucky.
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If I was ever good enough in my old days to planning for any college, I would have been Kentucky. Hands down.
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I know it could be different for other people.
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Was that any kind of factor for you? You know, being a Kentucky right in your back door, There's the stadium.
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Or was you kind of open? Because I know I've seen one of your interviews.
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You were one of your favorites colleges, I think was organ.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Was any of those factors like possibility up there was like, Well, it zey high like, Oh, my goodness.
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I'm gonna Ohio State to actually just have recruits here.
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Talk to me.
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Talk a little bit about that if you don't care.
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Before when I was gonna get Ohio State like before all that stuff happened.
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So they were right.
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But it's the best thing that ever happened to Corona.
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No, but majority, um, like majority of the time.
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Like there's a lot of recruits like behind like this.
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No more crystal ball thing.
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Um, and I'm like, I'm one of those, Like I think it's kind of it's a little bit intrusive sometimes because, like, I don't I don't know how to explain it.
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Really, Because I don't wanna be, like, too obvious about what I'm saying.
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But, um, those reporters who put those in majority of the time don't put them in unless 100% No, you know what I mean? However, that year from they talk to coaches or whatever, and, um, or just through, like, other interviews.
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So it's kind of like I'm not a big fan of the whole crystal ball thing, but it's part of it, I guess.
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But, yeah, I was going to go to Ohio State for a little bit.
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And then, um, what made Kentucky the right fit for me? It was I wanted to be close to home.
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And, um, you know, Coach Lyman does a great job with those guys and getting them ready for the NFL.
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So, um, it felt like I could dio, regardless of what other coaches were telling me what other people were telling me.
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It felt like I could do.
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And I know I could dio you know, the things that those schools say there's only schools I could do at Kentucky being home and helping build like the school that I always watch when I was a kid.
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Mhm.
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What is that decision making process like? Because listen, I can only imagine it.
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I listen, I was terrible in little league, so I would never I could never be I could never be in your shoes.
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That's why I talk about the sports and I talk to people like you.
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Because listen, I am doing what you guys doing.
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What is that process like? I know you said that it was originally Ohio.
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Stay.
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Now it's Kentucky, is it? You know, and I'm just always curious of your thought of people's thought processes when they're going through things like this.
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Was this your decision? You know, do you talk to your parents? You talk to friends? Like what? What is that decision making process like for you? Um, Well, so, like, whenever I got my first offer, they kind of all just like happened.
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Like like I got my first offer on Saturday and the next Monday at school.
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I got two offers in one day Purdue in West Virginia, and then after that, it kind of just like all started happening, and then I obviously got Ohio State and then I went to Clinton camp and got Clinton, then with Alabama.
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Camp got Alabama and Penn State and all those guys.
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So, um, it's It's kind of like there's, like, three different stages.
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I'd say there's like to try to get recruited, and there's like, the heat of recruiting where, like you're getting an offer every day and there's like, it's time to, like, really sit down.
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And the offers were kind of done, and you, you kind of limit your list.
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I only got seven on Ben.
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You kind of just slowly trim it down from there in your own head, and then I'm set a date on it.
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But it z weird toe.
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Look back and think it like all the food that I thought was the perfect 51 that I would go there like it happened with.
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I think at one point I was going to Texas to one point I was gonna go to Penn State and then Ohio State.
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Um, all those schools in my top seven or top five I was like heavily like at one point was 100% positive in my head that I was gonna go there.
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You know what I mean? Um, but then you kind of you can tell the difference.
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Whenever you figure out the school, you actually want to go to, like, a different feeling other than just, you know, you're there.
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And you wanna make a, um, snappy decision or something.
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So, uh, it's the thought process for me, it was like I sat down with my family, my parents and my brother, and we made a list of things that were most important to me.
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And we would go to the school and I would look at the list and, um, figure out which schools, like, fit the most things on my list and then talk to my parents about it on Ben Way made a rule that, like, if I wanted to commit somewhere, obviously had to wait like a long period and basically, like, not cut off other schools.
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But just imagine I was going to go see how I felt about it.
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So that's how I went through.
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Oh, I like it because I'll be honest thinking about us and our thinking about the first one offer to May I? Yes.
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I'm going going to college. That's it.
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You miss out on a lot of those opportunities because, I mean, you say, Kentucky, where is the first? And you think if you were to jump on Kentucky at the beginning, which I'm so glad you did as you can see behind me.
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But then you wouldn't have been able to go see Clemson.
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You wouldn't be able to see Obama and these top schools like that to even think you had missed out on all those opportunities.
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But e couldn't do.
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It might be why I'm obese and wasn't really good at sports because I just couldn't handle it mentally.
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But, uh, you wanna go ahead and go with the second question There it was, Yeah.
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When you know, because you look at people and it's always the Oh, I think I could have made it back in the day Or, you know, people in school now think that, you know, they're gonna be able to play in the pros.
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When did it, you know, become a reality to you that this was something that you could actually dio? I mean, like I said, people in high school, of course, you want to think you can you can, you know, go to college to the pros or something like that.
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And obviously, this is your first step.
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You're you're you're committed Thio college.
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You've had people, you know, recruit you.
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But when in your head did it become a reality? Was it when you got your first offer? Was it you know, after a certain game where you thought Listen, hey, I can I could really do this.
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Wasn't a certain coach telling you When was it Finally a thing in your head, Like football, football is the thing that I could dio um I mean, I always knew it was the thing I could do.
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But, like in the in the way of like thinking I have a shot to, like, play in the NFL and big time division when, like football, even whenever you get your first offer, you know, like, there's a lot of stuff that people don't even know.
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Like some offers aren't commendable, obviously, mind waas, But, um, certain time schools before that offers just in case someone they want doesn't commit, and then they have That is like a backup plan.
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So you never really know.
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Obviously, once you get to a certain level.
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You know, you could go to any of the schools that offer you, But I would say whenever it became like a reality that could really do it was probably like after I committed, um, and like hearing my cut my coaches an interview where he was like, um probably about Walker, Like my best friend that you supplied that went to Clemson.
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Um, talking about how if me and Walker stay healthy, that we have a real shot to, you know, get the NFL, and he's like a He's like a hard nosed dude like Would never say it doesn't like, give it to you like that.
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Like, you know what I mean, Like sugar coating it.
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Yeah, he would never Sure, if anything, he tells you, like, straight up, whether you want to hear it or not.
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So hearing that from him was kind of like, you know, like another motivational factor, I guess.
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Like I keep saying on the same path and just keep doing what I'm doing Like mawr than actually have a real shot, you know, do that.
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But it's not really fully set in.
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I don't think Anyways, it all happened so fast Going from like no one.
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No offers, Thio.
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I think I have, like, 24 or something like that.
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Now, um, it all happens like so fast.
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You don't really have time, like, you know, how many time to slow down because you're going on all that stuff.
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But I think that time was for me, it was like Corona whenever I could really like, I'm like, Well, I can't go do anything now.
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So, like, I have time to, like, really sit down and get this over with and see what I want to do in my head and all that.
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So that's whenever the whole Kentucky things started when I sat down and looked at my list back and knew that they're probably gonna be more visits from my class that I need, you know, make a decision soon.
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To where, um I could help get other guys to wherever I was going.
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Listen, all I'm saying is you break into the NFL.
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I'm Anita, Jersey guy guy.
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You could tell you from New York with that, but anyway, uh, I think, uh, I like to watch.
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Okay? I work a tractor supply.
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I get a 30 minute lunch when I'm sitting on my lunch, I'm sitting in front of the computer looking at 24 7, see who's commuting and watch some of the highlight videos or prospects.
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I'm obsessed with it, actually during lunch periods.
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So actually, just two days ago, I was sitting in the eating my KFC Buffalo chicken sandwich with some fries switch.
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Their fries were really good, by the way, and I was watching one of the highlights and the first highlighted was showing was a sop****re year.
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And then, you know, I was kind of watching all this stuff.
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By the way.
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I think one thing that I've noticed and I'm no expert, let me throw that out there to one thing that I like about you that I don't know if anyone's really talking about is your your mind set of the game as far as alignment.
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As soon as you blocked someone, it looks like you're already looking for that second level to be blocking at, and you could even tell on your team like you're already helped off with one guy and you're moving up to the linemen and even getting up to the secondary.
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They're blocking down and all the other guys are like 20 yards behind you.
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You're lying in your mind.
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Come on up to my level.
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But anyways, as I'm going with that your sop****re year, I noticed that there was some footwork mechanisms that didn't look to the top notch.
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And then I see your junior year and I said, Okay, well, I've seen seen some of this kind of actually play out where he's fixed that now.
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And it had me thinking it just your I'm trying to figure out hacking where they see him.
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I've seen a lot of athletes where I live here in Harney County.
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I don't know if you know where you are in the county of southeastern part of the state, we get athletes that are like, I'm going to use a five star just to represent what I'm trying to say here that are playing against one stars and you can see that their talent is basically making them do good.
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They're not learning, learning the fundamentals in it, and it's slacks.
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What I'm trying to stay here on this is has knowing that you're going to college and went to some of these camps Has it helped you focus more on and thinking.
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Okay, I know how much bigger than this guy can just push him down, and I have to worry about anything.
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Basically, how has prepping for college? Helped you in the high school playing field.
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Now does that makes me time trying to work that? Yeah, I would say, like the biggest step for me.
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It was like I didn't play.
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I played, like receiver, my fresh like all the way up until my freshman year, like halfway through my freshman.
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Then I switched to the line and then I went toe Douglas and they wanted to play.
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Wanted me to play tight end.
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But I wanted to play a line.
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So I was like, I'm gonna fight for the starting job at guard when I wanted and got switched the left tackle that I've been playing.
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It s so it was more me, like more for me.
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Um, I had a lot of catching up to do, Kind of so, like, that's why my sop****re year looks like, honestly myself when I was playing off your strength and not a lot of fundamental, um, fundamentals.
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So my junior year whenever we always have, like post evaluations of the season e my coach and he was like, You're you're like you're just playing off raw talent.
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If you added, um, you know, fundamentals, then you that's like your next step.
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So I worked with Walker.
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A lot have been playing along his whole life, and he taught me like a lot of the fundamentals and obviously the coach, McPeek, um and that kind of got me to the next level and then mawr what I focused on going into my senior year, which I haven't made my highlights yet.
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But you can a lot is I worked a lot more on fundamentals, and then I worked on more of, like, knowledge of the game.
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Um, not just know what I'm doing now, what the quarterback is doing, like what other steers they're doing because it all matters.
00:17:28
That's, uh, one of the little things, and I'm not like I'm trying to critique you or anything, but I noticed that when you were younger and it makes sense now because it's just straight Raul when you're pulling and it just so happened, it looks like you're leaning where you're pulling one plans like Wait a second.
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Is he about in there? You took off like Okay, that's That's probably just the in maturity of knowing what's going on.
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And then, like the next video popped up, I was like, Okay, he doesn't look like he's about the pool here, and all of a sudden he just **** And you get out of that stance so fast, too.
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And on that pool, too, Which is amazing at that age, too.
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So you could definitely tell that you're making the corrections.
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And I'm awesomely pleased with that, by the way.
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But we'll go on the next question.
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Can you go ahead? Well, listen, before that, I just think I find it super impressive being so as self aware as you are.
00:18:10
I mean, obviously, I don't know how much that means coming from somebody like May, but professionals? Yeah, clearly, But just I don't know, I find it very impressive yourself where because, you know, you just going into college.
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I mean, I can't say I'm probably, you know, like, two years older than you, if anything.
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So I know people are It's just already somewhere like you are in self aware like that where you know you can You can take the correction and, you know, people are like, you know, I said, always saying that they're the best of everything.
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So I just Personally, I find a super impressive how, you know, self aware that you actually are.
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But my next question to also I'm just curious.
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What What's Ah, what's your, like, routine work out kind of thing? Like at this moment? Because obviously getting bigger.
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Stronger? Yeah, things like that.
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But is it are you focused on on that part? Is that the technique? I mean, I know.
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I'm sure you're probably doing both, but what is what is a day in your life? Like eso.
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We have morning lists every other day.
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So, like we practiced every day.
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But obviously we play on Fridays and then Saturday.
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We have often We have practiced Sunday.
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So, like like, for example, like I just go off today.
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I had lifting at 7:25 a.m.
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till 805 I think.
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So.
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I lifted and then I went and got breakfast, went home, did school, and then from there, I went and got, um, like this letter for, like, the Gatorade Player of the year thing that I had to dio.
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And then I went down some work from school and then e went thio.
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We gotta laugh easier now.
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I went the practice.
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Uh, practice started 3.
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40 and from, like, uh, like, 5. 50 I think.
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And then I went home, and now I'm here.
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Listen, power to you because that's, uh I woke up at about one o'clock today so that Z just, you know, a day in my life I take a little my truck cleaned out my truck and all kinds of fishing lures that I didn't know I lost, but so I'm happy with that.
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And then I'm here.
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Oh, I did one set up to while half of it. I woke up and sit up.
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The other half will be when I go back to bed.
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Okay.
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Now, Michael, what else you got? I'm gonna steal this one from you because I'm the one that's more interested in this question.
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OK, Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky.
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Obviously, I'm saying that your born here bred here.
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You're ready to go.
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You've committed now.
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Have you turned into a recruiter now? Yeah, for sure.
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So we have, like, a group chat with, like, all the kids that were committed, basically, like we talked to the coachman or whatever.
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And they tell us who we should recruit.
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But, like, for example, like I'm enrolling in December so December.
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So I'm more focused on recruiting kids that are gonna be early enroll is because they're gonna be there whenever I get there.
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And the other kids that aren't early enrolling or, like, focused on recruiting kids that, you know, can take a lot longer to commit because they're not gonna be early enrolling, But yeah, that's a That's a part.
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While I committed a little bit early, I could do some of that.
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Good.
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That makes me happy.
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Any of those kids on that group chat? You wanna mess in this? Say Hey, man, I was on this really cool show.
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You might want to do it.
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You can recruit for us to, okay? Y'all wanna Yes.
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Sounds good.
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Go ahead.
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Um, let's see.
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I know that you kind of touched on it before, but, you know, obviously, I don't know.
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And Michael, don't Don't kill me here, But you look at places like Alabama and then claims in.
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And they're kind of like the, you know, the national, the powerhouses of college football and things like that.
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And I mean, I'll be blatantly honest here.
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I was.
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I'm not really a college football guy.
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Like, I don't really watch college sports that often.
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But, you know, I think of anything and and, you know, like you said power to you.
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Because when you got a letter for recruiting, you said you wanna go somewhere like you said You took time and you didn't just commit right away in my head.
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I hear Alabama claims, and I'm like, OK, everybody else goodbye.
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What? Why? Why? Kentucky? What is it about that? Is it the fact that you know family since you said you're from there, right? Yeah.
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I live like, 15 minutes from the school.
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Yeah.
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It's always that the fact that now your family members and come see you play.
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Is it just something stood out at Kentucky.
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What? What? Four years? It's 40 years.
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That is part of it.
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But see, um, for me, you know, it didn't really matter The name of the school, necessarily.
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Kentucky's in the SEC, which is my well not even, in my opinion, mostly everyone's opinion, the best conference in college football.
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So that's a funny I mean, like, personally.
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Like if you look at it just from like if you're many, it more like an NFL way that those teams have more people get the NFL.
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If you actually like, look into it.
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Kentucky takes, you know, one starting to start talents and they go second round of the draft, especially a towline.
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So if you know they haven't, I think I'm like the sixth highest player like ever in Kentucky, like in the 247 era to commit at all positions.
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So I mean, if you like, look at I mean, everyone above me was in the NFL, all those kids that were just a little flecks that went there.
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But I'm saying, like, um, you know, you have like those to the two star llamazares ratings doesn't even mean anything once you get to college.
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Especially, um, you know, if they could take what these professional you know, graders of talent basically and make those kids who are, you know, rated load me and turn them into NFL, um, talent that goes first or second round, then, um, to me, um, it's up to me toe, you know, let them develop me and let them put me in the right position to go do that.
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And obviously, I wanna help my home town school.
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I've seen Kentucky struggle to like the Joker era, and now they're in the Stoops era, and it's it's an upward trend.
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Um, so I wanna be a part of that, Like those I don't You probably don't know they are, Anthony, but I know Michael.
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No, they are like cash and Drake and landed and all those guys who are all Americans that stayed home and they help Kentucky get their first few bull winds and forever and I wanna be part of the class that helps Kentucky get, you know, an sec east when, and you get high ranking all that except got a heart attack right now.
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That's all. Joy. Right there. That's love.
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See, I wanna ask that I follow up with that.
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You said land in there too.
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Did that takes some factor into your decision to because, I mean, our offensive line is probably, I would say, ranked second or third in the whole nation.
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And, you know, some of the guys were seniors.
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We're gonna be going professional very soon.
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It the fact that you think, Hey, I could possibly move into a role freshman year or you look to maybe not playing much of freshman year and then sop****re year going, or do you think you'll be going straight into that? Um, it's a little bit different alcove it and stuff, but like all those guys who are going to go, the draft that I rejected are obviously gonna go to the draft like landing Drake Conard.
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So that's four people off, then.
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You know, if there's four open spots and I can play all all the positions.
00:25:21
So you know, it's four opportunity media on the field freshman. You.
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I could play s that, but that was another thing.
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E wanted to be able to make an impact like early whenever I came in and not have Thio, you know, wait, um, to be able to play.
00:25:36
I wanted to be able to help somewhere that you get on the field fast and help like instantly as soon as I got there.
00:25:42
So there was a good opportunity that of Kentucky says another factor.
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Yeah.
00:25:46
Okay.
00:25:47
Um, really, That pretty much concludes everything.
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It's been wonderful.
00:25:51
Now I've got some other questions here, actually have, like, 10 more questions, But these air questions that I just kind of come at you fast.
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First thing you think I'm just go ahead and and say almost like a hot Tecora hot seat.
00:26:01
Are you cool with that? Sounds good.
00:26:03
That was your first question. Good job.
00:26:07
First question.
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Favorite food.
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Uh, wings.
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Oh, you know what? You're my favorite player now.
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Now, question one beast.
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Did you say that? Boneless.
00:26:19
We're boned.
00:26:20
Listen, now, you can't answer this one wrong, though. Bonin.
00:26:23
Thank you.
00:26:24
All right, I'm getting your jersey, Theo.
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Interior.
00:26:28
Did I heard a little New Yorker there.
00:26:30
Alright, favorite player.
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Any sport, anything? Just you.
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Favorite player, Walker parks.
00:26:37
It sounds good. Sounds good.
00:26:40
What's your favorite team? Um For what? NFL.
00:26:45
Whatever.
00:26:46
You wanna? Yeah.
00:26:47
We'll just go NFL. Um, the Browns.
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Just a just a guess. Wow.
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This man was drafted by the Brown, so just throwing that out.
00:27:00
Patriots need a little online help right now, so I'm just saying, All right, Who is your favorite superhero? the flesh, the flash while the flash.
00:27:15
Well, like if I could choose a superpower, that would be it.
00:27:17
Because you can do, like anything that all the other super Ozcan dio like you could go back in time.
00:27:22
You could go to the future because you can run so fast, and then you run fast.
00:27:26
You could be like the best you could be like Olympic gold medalists.
00:27:30
You do? Every every sport would be the best running back of all time.
00:27:34
You know what? I am just gonna stop saying it.
00:27:38
Your head on your shoulder seems very far to be at your age.
00:27:43
I will say that.
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Like I'm just asking you these simple questions.
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And you had Ah, legit.
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Thought out. Answer on that.
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Kudos to you.
00:27:50
I like that.
00:27:51
All right, kind of. Go ahead.
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Oh, God.
00:27:55
Where are we at? Oh, what's your What's your major gonna bay? I don't know yet either.
00:28:00
Like business e business journalism.
00:28:04
Probably.
00:28:05
You are monitoring in journalism.
00:28:07
So I got you. Don't you worry.
00:28:09
Okay.
00:28:10
There you go.
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If you need any mentoring on yours, Yeah, you can mentor me on on all things you know, lifting wise.
00:28:17
I got you with the journalism. Now.
00:28:19
I got you, boss. Don't you worry.
00:28:20
Okay? Now you can't say football, but dream job other than football, like a sports agent.
00:28:29
Ooh, Not so you like the rock.
00:28:32
Yeah.
00:28:33
Okay, now, here's my last question for the day.
00:28:37
And it's just what can we expect from you at UK? Um, it's hard to say.
00:28:43
Honestly, I mean, like, obviously, like, do my best everything I can and try to help as much as I possibly can.
00:28:50
But it's really hard to say, You know, I haven't I haven't been able to be there for so long.
00:28:54
And there's so many moving pieces right now.
00:28:56
Like Corona.
00:28:57
It's hard toe give, like a sure answer.
00:28:59
But yeah, I'm trying to get as many, you know, high rated people.
00:29:04
There is possibly can and like, help help the program and get to the next step in on that.
00:29:09
I have one question.
00:29:10
One more question way.
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Obviously, like when people get recruited places or things like that, there's always the comparisons.
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Thio.
00:29:20
You know, current players or players before and they kind of annoyed me.
00:29:23
So who not who do you compare yourself to Because anybody you look at right now, like NFL, even college wise, whatever you want, Uh, that you not so much compare yourself to.
00:29:33
But I don't know, maybe you wanna be like or look up to right now, we're just love what they're doing.
00:29:38
Um, right.
00:29:40
I'm trying to think my 24 7 profile has, like a comparison, but I don't know who it is, Dan.
00:29:46
Your I've never watched him before, but that I guess that's who they say I don't really compare myself to really anyone.
00:29:53
Honestly, I like how Quinton Nelson place.
00:29:55
I think we have, like, a somewhat similar place style, but I'm a little more like, focused on like I like running.
00:30:03
I feel like and he's more like a hard nose.
00:30:05
Um, you know, put you in that.
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I like pulling in, getting an open field and like, blocking safeties and stuff like that.
00:30:14
So, yeah, saying that's good.
00:30:17
Uh, that has all my questions.
00:30:19
I'm just gonna ask this one, because the problem ahead at Kentucky are we only going to see you on offense or do you think Stoops may want to play you at defense? Because I know, right now you're focusing on offense and even 47 said something about moving to guard.
00:30:33
But, you know, you could play all four positions there.
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What? What position? You think you'd want to play most? Um, my 247 e Think it says I'm like, 63 But I'm like, 65 now.
00:30:43
So I'm I'm calling up to play at least be tackle.
00:30:46
So I would like just wherever they need me, especially freshman year.
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But as I get older, you're not obviously liked.
00:30:52
Especially if I'm getting looked at for the NFL.
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I'd like to move to tackle because that's where you know that, Z that's where the money is.
00:30:59
That baby, don't be afraid to say it.
00:31:00
I'll say it for you.
00:31:02
Don't you worry about the money that.
00:31:04
But they have mentioned some defense, maybe, um, but I'm not sure.
00:31:09
Obviously, it just depends.
00:31:10
Um, they actually recruit.
00:31:12
Really? I'm a real d line, but you know what I mean? Like really, really d lineman eso I I'll play whatever they tell me too.
00:31:19
But I've heard a little bit.
00:31:20
Everything I've heard like tied in from other schools to obviously doesn't matter anymore, but whatever.
00:31:26
They need me to play it.
00:31:27
I'll play.
00:31:28
You'll be the Jabrill Peppers of offline way.
00:31:32
Well, guys, that really wraps up our show.
00:31:34
We're at the 30 minute mark.
00:31:35
We gotta hop on off here real soon.
00:31:38
Jagger. So much.
00:31:39
Thank you.
00:31:40
So so much for coming on here.
00:31:41
Really Appreciate it.
00:31:42
Connie, thank you for jumping out here, too.
00:31:43
So I had another face to look at.
00:31:45
Kind of mimics mind a little bit.
00:31:46
Just a little downgrade from me, but that's okay.
00:31:48
Uh, I guess you know, I don't really wanna take Jaggers time here and promote our other shows that we want to.
00:31:54
But, Connie, if you wanna go ahead, take it real quick.
00:31:56
Minute there. Go ahead. Talk about your blip, boys.
00:31:58
Yeah, just check out.
00:31:59
What's boys on Mondays, me and Josh do it.
00:32:02
Seven Eastern, four Pacific.
00:32:04
So if you want to check that out, go ahead.
00:32:06
But, you know, like Michael said, thanks so much for joining.
00:32:09
This was cool. Is the first time I've interviewed somebody.
00:32:11
You know, I'll say it.
00:32:12
Somebody of your status, Uh, somebody that I could be watching on Saturdays and Sundays.
00:32:16
Maybe Sunday exactly.
00:32:19
**** right.
00:32:20
So I appreciate it.
00:32:21
And Michael, thanks for asking me to hop on.
00:32:24
All right, guys, you all have a good one.
00:32:26
Everyone. Thank you all so much for watching this.
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I've got Connie over here to my left to looking a little pretty with the hair today.
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You must actually condition this morning.
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Didn't. Yeah.
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No, I've never You know, I'm not a fan of conditioner shampoo.
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Only shampoo only.
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Okay, well, you're not a fan of Adam Sandler.
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Then Billy Madison conditioner makes the hair and silk smooth.
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But as we joke around with this, um, super excited today.
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As you can see down here, we don't have the screen on it, but you could see his name is Jagger. Burton Jagger.
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Thank you so much for joining the show.
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He's actually a four star recruit right now in high school at Frederick Douglass in Kentucky, which is where I'm from.
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As you can see behind me, you've got all these things here.
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Thank you so much for coming onto the show, man. Yeah.
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Thank you for having me.
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We just kind of wanna what the show is about.
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If you could see in the headlines were just talking little college football on Just I've been interested in this since I've been starting with Unwrapped Sports Network.
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Jack, thank you so much for joining me here.
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I'm glad I did not listen to my wife because I would be calling you Yeager.
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And then I've been looking like a fool.
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So hunting, if you're watching, which I hope you are, I love you.
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and I asked you before we went love.
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So we're just gonna ask a few questions, Connie, we'll just go back and forth.
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I'll take the first one.
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You do the second one, and we just kind of go from there.
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And Jagger, as your response will kind of maybe interrupt with another questions that we just wanna add onto.
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It sounds good.
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Sounds good.
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All right.
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So you are a senior.
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You will be enrolling next year with with Kentucky, you know, changing your mind, right? Ah, yes, sir.
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Yes.
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Okay, uh, tell us some of the highs and lows as far as being recruited.
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And I know I've sent you this list.
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You've had some time to think about it.
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So hopefully nothing will be to spot on you there where you don't know what to say.
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So go ahead with that.
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What are some of the highest that you've had to deal with? And it could be anywhere from go into some of these camps, learning new techniques or even it could just be beating certain people.
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Just whatever you think is the highest thing that you've been able to experience in some of the lows as far as being recruited, Um, I would say the lows would be like, early in, like my recording process when no one was really looking at me and you don't know like he was looking at you because, like, until you're a junior, I think colleges can't talk to you like legally or anything and all of them, like all that role, really strictly because it's like, strictly enforced.
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So you never really know, Like, who's looking at you like your first offers, like always, really like a big surprise because only coach can like, um no, basically, who want u s.
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So whenever I got offered by Kentucky, that was like the first time I recruiting everything before That was probably kind of low E didn't play a lot my freshman year whenever I was my old high school L c a.
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And then that kind of motivated me whenever I switched schools.
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Um, I started from sop****re now, so I got all my offers after my sop****re season, a good amount of them.
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But I would say like some of the heuser, you'd be like, really cool people like sitting and like Coach Saban offered me like being in his office and seeing him in real life.
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And Coach Sweeney offered me seeing him in real life, stuff like that.
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And then obviously, Coach Stoops being from Kentucky, how big of a deal that was to me, and that was my first offer.
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But one of the things like stands out, is my Ohio State visit.
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You know, you hear about like, Justin Fields, Chase Young.
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All those guys, never.
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They were there, and I actually got to meet those guys and talk to those guys before they play Penn State whenever I was there. So that's pretty cool.
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And, um, yeah, that's probably that's definitely one of the highest that just fixed out off the land.
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If we Oh, okay, now, probably I'd say mid Covic going on here.
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Ah, lot of people I love for 20 or so your 24 7 sports.
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My boss at work calls that 247 I'm not sure what it really is called, but ah, lot of them at first started picking that you were going to go to Ohio State.
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Is there Were they wrong on that? Was it always Kentucky? Or was it really in there because I know me live in Kentucky.
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If I was ever good enough in my old days to planning for any college, I would have been Kentucky. Hands down.
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I know it could be different for other people.
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Was that any kind of factor for you? You know, being a Kentucky right in your back door, There's the stadium.
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Or was you kind of open? Because I know I've seen one of your interviews.
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You were one of your favorites colleges, I think was organ.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Was any of those factors like possibility up there was like, Well, it zey high like, Oh, my goodness.
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I'm gonna Ohio State to actually just have recruits here.
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Talk to me.
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Talk a little bit about that if you don't care.
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Before when I was gonna get Ohio State like before all that stuff happened.
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So they were right.
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But it's the best thing that ever happened to Corona.
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No, but majority, um, like majority of the time.
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Like there's a lot of recruits like behind like this.
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No more crystal ball thing.
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Um, and I'm like, I'm one of those, Like I think it's kind of it's a little bit intrusive sometimes because, like, I don't I don't know how to explain it.
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Really, Because I don't wanna be, like, too obvious about what I'm saying.
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But, um, those reporters who put those in majority of the time don't put them in unless 100% No, you know what I mean? However, that year from they talk to coaches or whatever, and, um, or just through, like, other interviews.
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So it's kind of like I'm not a big fan of the whole crystal ball thing, but it's part of it, I guess.
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But, yeah, I was going to go to Ohio State for a little bit.
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And then, um, what made Kentucky the right fit for me? It was I wanted to be close to home.
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And, um, you know, Coach Lyman does a great job with those guys and getting them ready for the NFL.
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So, um, it felt like I could dio, regardless of what other coaches were telling me what other people were telling me.
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It felt like I could do.
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And I know I could dio you know, the things that those schools say there's only schools I could do at Kentucky being home and helping build like the school that I always watch when I was a kid.
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Mhm.
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What is that decision making process like? Because listen, I can only imagine it.
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I listen, I was terrible in little league, so I would never I could never be I could never be in your shoes.
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That's why I talk about the sports and I talk to people like you.
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Because listen, I am doing what you guys doing.
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What is that process like? I know you said that it was originally Ohio.
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Stay.
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Now it's Kentucky, is it? You know, and I'm just always curious of your thought of people's thought processes when they're going through things like this.
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Was this your decision? You know, do you talk to your parents? You talk to friends? Like what? What is that decision making process like for you? Um, Well, so, like, whenever I got my first offer, they kind of all just like happened.
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Like like I got my first offer on Saturday and the next Monday at school.
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I got two offers in one day Purdue in West Virginia, and then after that, it kind of just like all started happening, and then I obviously got Ohio State and then I went to Clinton camp and got Clinton, then with Alabama.
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Camp got Alabama and Penn State and all those guys.
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So, um, it's It's kind of like there's, like, three different stages.
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I'd say there's like to try to get recruited, and there's like, the heat of recruiting where, like you're getting an offer every day and there's like, it's time to, like, really sit down.
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And the offers were kind of done, and you, you kind of limit your list.
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I only got seven on Ben.
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You kind of just slowly trim it down from there in your own head, and then I'm set a date on it.
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But it z weird toe.
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Look back and think it like all the food that I thought was the perfect 51 that I would go there like it happened with.
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I think at one point I was going to Texas to one point I was gonna go to Penn State and then Ohio State.
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Um, all those schools in my top seven or top five I was like heavily like at one point was 100% positive in my head that I was gonna go there.
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You know what I mean? Um, but then you kind of you can tell the difference.
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Whenever you figure out the school, you actually want to go to, like, a different feeling other than just, you know, you're there.
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And you wanna make a, um, snappy decision or something.
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So, uh, it's the thought process for me, it was like I sat down with my family, my parents and my brother, and we made a list of things that were most important to me.
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And we would go to the school and I would look at the list and, um, figure out which schools, like, fit the most things on my list and then talk to my parents about it on Ben Way made a rule that, like, if I wanted to commit somewhere, obviously had to wait like a long period and basically, like, not cut off other schools.
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But just imagine I was going to go see how I felt about it.
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So that's how I went through.
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Oh, I like it because I'll be honest thinking about us and our thinking about the first one offer to May I? Yes.
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I'm going going to college. That's it.
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You miss out on a lot of those opportunities because, I mean, you say, Kentucky, where is the first? And you think if you were to jump on Kentucky at the beginning, which I'm so glad you did as you can see behind me.
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But then you wouldn't have been able to go see Clemson.
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You wouldn't be able to see Obama and these top schools like that to even think you had missed out on all those opportunities.
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But e couldn't do.
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It might be why I'm obese and wasn't really good at sports because I just couldn't handle it mentally.
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But, uh, you wanna go ahead and go with the second question There it was, Yeah.
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When you know, because you look at people and it's always the Oh, I think I could have made it back in the day Or, you know, people in school now think that, you know, they're gonna be able to play in the pros.
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When did it, you know, become a reality to you that this was something that you could actually dio? I mean, like I said, people in high school, of course, you want to think you can you can, you know, go to college to the pros or something like that.
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And obviously, this is your first step.
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You're you're you're committed Thio college.
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You've had people, you know, recruit you.
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But when in your head did it become a reality? Was it when you got your first offer? Was it you know, after a certain game where you thought Listen, hey, I can I could really do this.
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Wasn't a certain coach telling you When was it Finally a thing in your head, Like football, football is the thing that I could dio um I mean, I always knew it was the thing I could do.
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But, like in the in the way of like thinking I have a shot to, like, play in the NFL and big time division when, like football, even whenever you get your first offer, you know, like, there's a lot of stuff that people don't even know.
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Like some offers aren't commendable, obviously, mind waas, But, um, certain time schools before that offers just in case someone they want doesn't commit, and then they have That is like a backup plan.
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So you never really know.
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Obviously, once you get to a certain level.
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You know, you could go to any of the schools that offer you, But I would say whenever it became like a reality that could really do it was probably like after I committed, um, and like hearing my cut my coaches an interview where he was like, um probably about Walker, Like my best friend that you supplied that went to Clemson.
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Um, talking about how if me and Walker stay healthy, that we have a real shot to, you know, get the NFL, and he's like a He's like a hard nosed dude like Would never say it doesn't like, give it to you like that.
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Like, you know what I mean, Like sugar coating it.
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Yeah, he would never Sure, if anything, he tells you, like, straight up, whether you want to hear it or not.
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So hearing that from him was kind of like, you know, like another motivational factor, I guess.
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Like I keep saying on the same path and just keep doing what I'm doing Like mawr than actually have a real shot, you know, do that.
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But it's not really fully set in.
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I don't think Anyways, it all happened so fast Going from like no one.
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No offers, Thio.
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I think I have, like, 24 or something like that.
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Now, um, it all happens like so fast.
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You don't really have time, like, you know, how many time to slow down because you're going on all that stuff.
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But I think that time was for me, it was like Corona whenever I could really like, I'm like, Well, I can't go do anything now.
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So, like, I have time to, like, really sit down and get this over with and see what I want to do in my head and all that.
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So that's whenever the whole Kentucky things started when I sat down and looked at my list back and knew that they're probably gonna be more visits from my class that I need, you know, make a decision soon.
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To where, um I could help get other guys to wherever I was going.
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Listen, all I'm saying is you break into the NFL.
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I'm Anita, Jersey guy guy.
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You could tell you from New York with that, but anyway, uh, I think, uh, I like to watch.
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Okay? I work a tractor supply.
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I get a 30 minute lunch when I'm sitting on my lunch, I'm sitting in front of the computer looking at 24 7, see who's commuting and watch some of the highlight videos or prospects.
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I'm obsessed with it, actually during lunch periods.
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So actually, just two days ago, I was sitting in the eating my KFC Buffalo chicken sandwich with some fries switch.
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Their fries were really good, by the way, and I was watching one of the highlights and the first highlighted was showing was a sop****re year.
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And then, you know, I was kind of watching all this stuff.
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By the way.
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I think one thing that I've noticed and I'm no expert, let me throw that out there to one thing that I like about you that I don't know if anyone's really talking about is your your mind set of the game as far as alignment.
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As soon as you blocked someone, it looks like you're already looking for that second level to be blocking at, and you could even tell on your team like you're already helped off with one guy and you're moving up to the linemen and even getting up to the secondary.
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They're blocking down and all the other guys are like 20 yards behind you.
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You're lying in your mind.
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Come on up to my level.
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But anyways, as I'm going with that your sop****re year, I noticed that there was some footwork mechanisms that didn't look to the top notch.
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And then I see your junior year and I said, Okay, well, I've seen seen some of this kind of actually play out where he's fixed that now.
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And it had me thinking it just your I'm trying to figure out hacking where they see him.
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I've seen a lot of athletes where I live here in Harney County.
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I don't know if you know where you are in the county of southeastern part of the state, we get athletes that are like, I'm going to use a five star just to represent what I'm trying to say here that are playing against one stars and you can see that their talent is basically making them do good.
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They're not learning, learning the fundamentals in it, and it's slacks.
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What I'm trying to stay here on this is has knowing that you're going to college and went to some of these camps Has it helped you focus more on and thinking.
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Okay, I know how much bigger than this guy can just push him down, and I have to worry about anything.
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Basically, how has prepping for college? Helped you in the high school playing field.
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Now does that makes me time trying to work that? Yeah, I would say, like the biggest step for me.
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It was like I didn't play.
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I played, like receiver, my fresh like all the way up until my freshman year, like halfway through my freshman.
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Then I switched to the line and then I went toe Douglas and they wanted to play.
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Wanted me to play tight end.
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But I wanted to play a line.
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So I was like, I'm gonna fight for the starting job at guard when I wanted and got switched the left tackle that I've been playing.
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It s so it was more me, like more for me.
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Um, I had a lot of catching up to do, Kind of so, like, that's why my sop****re year looks like, honestly myself when I was playing off your strength and not a lot of fundamental, um, fundamentals.
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So my junior year whenever we always have, like post evaluations of the season e my coach and he was like, You're you're like you're just playing off raw talent.
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If you added, um, you know, fundamentals, then you that's like your next step.
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So I worked with Walker.
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A lot have been playing along his whole life, and he taught me like a lot of the fundamentals and obviously the coach, McPeek, um and that kind of got me to the next level and then mawr what I focused on going into my senior year, which I haven't made my highlights yet.
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But you can a lot is I worked a lot more on fundamentals, and then I worked on more of, like, knowledge of the game.
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Um, not just know what I'm doing now, what the quarterback is doing, like what other steers they're doing because it all matters.
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That's, uh, one of the little things, and I'm not like I'm trying to critique you or anything, but I noticed that when you were younger and it makes sense now because it's just straight Raul when you're pulling and it just so happened, it looks like you're leaning where you're pulling one plans like Wait a second.
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Is he about in there? You took off like Okay, that's That's probably just the in maturity of knowing what's going on.
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And then, like the next video popped up, I was like, Okay, he doesn't look like he's about the pool here, and all of a sudden he just **** And you get out of that stance so fast, too.
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And on that pool, too, Which is amazing at that age, too.
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So you could definitely tell that you're making the corrections.
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And I'm awesomely pleased with that, by the way.
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But we'll go on the next question.
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Can you go ahead? Well, listen, before that, I just think I find it super impressive being so as self aware as you are.
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I mean, obviously, I don't know how much that means coming from somebody like May, but professionals? Yeah, clearly, But just I don't know, I find it very impressive yourself where because, you know, you just going into college.
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I mean, I can't say I'm probably, you know, like, two years older than you, if anything.
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So I know people are It's just already somewhere like you are in self aware like that where you know you can You can take the correction and, you know, people are like, you know, I said, always saying that they're the best of everything.
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So I just Personally, I find a super impressive how, you know, self aware that you actually are.
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But my next question to also I'm just curious.
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What What's Ah, what's your, like, routine work out kind of thing? Like at this moment? Because obviously getting bigger.
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Stronger? Yeah, things like that.
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But is it are you focused on on that part? Is that the technique? I mean, I know.
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I'm sure you're probably doing both, but what is what is a day in your life? Like eso.
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We have morning lists every other day.
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So, like we practiced every day.
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But obviously we play on Fridays and then Saturday.
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We have often We have practiced Sunday.
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So, like like, for example, like I just go off today.
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I had lifting at 7:25 a.m.
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till 805 I think.
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So.
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I lifted and then I went and got breakfast, went home, did school, and then from there, I went and got, um, like this letter for, like, the Gatorade Player of the year thing that I had to dio.
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And then I went down some work from school and then e went thio.
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We gotta laugh easier now.
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I went the practice.
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Uh, practice started 3.
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40 and from, like, uh, like, 5. 50 I think.
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And then I went home, and now I'm here.
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Listen, power to you because that's, uh I woke up at about one o'clock today so that Z just, you know, a day in my life I take a little my truck cleaned out my truck and all kinds of fishing lures that I didn't know I lost, but so I'm happy with that.
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And then I'm here.
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Oh, I did one set up to while half of it. I woke up and sit up.
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The other half will be when I go back to bed.
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Okay.
00:20:21
Now, Michael, what else you got? I'm gonna steal this one from you because I'm the one that's more interested in this question.
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OK, Kentucky, Kentucky, Kentucky.
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Obviously, I'm saying that your born here bred here.
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You're ready to go.
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You've committed now.
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Have you turned into a recruiter now? Yeah, for sure.
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So we have, like, a group chat with, like, all the kids that were committed, basically, like we talked to the coachman or whatever.
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And they tell us who we should recruit.
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But, like, for example, like I'm enrolling in December so December.
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So I'm more focused on recruiting kids that are gonna be early enroll is because they're gonna be there whenever I get there.
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And the other kids that aren't early enrolling or, like, focused on recruiting kids that, you know, can take a lot longer to commit because they're not gonna be early enrolling, But yeah, that's a That's a part.
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While I committed a little bit early, I could do some of that.
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Good.
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That makes me happy.
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Any of those kids on that group chat? You wanna mess in this? Say Hey, man, I was on this really cool show.
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You might want to do it.
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You can recruit for us to, okay? Y'all wanna Yes.
00:21:28
Sounds good.
00:21:30
Go ahead.
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Um, let's see.
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I know that you kind of touched on it before, but, you know, obviously, I don't know.
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And Michael, don't Don't kill me here, But you look at places like Alabama and then claims in.
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And they're kind of like the, you know, the national, the powerhouses of college football and things like that.
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And I mean, I'll be blatantly honest here.
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I was.
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I'm not really a college football guy.
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Like, I don't really watch college sports that often.
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But, you know, I think of anything and and, you know, like you said power to you.
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Because when you got a letter for recruiting, you said you wanna go somewhere like you said You took time and you didn't just commit right away in my head.
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I hear Alabama claims, and I'm like, OK, everybody else goodbye.
00:22:16
What? Why? Why? Kentucky? What is it about that? Is it the fact that you know family since you said you're from there, right? Yeah.
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I live like, 15 minutes from the school.
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Yeah.
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It's always that the fact that now your family members and come see you play.
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Is it just something stood out at Kentucky.
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What? What? Four years? It's 40 years.
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That is part of it.
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But see, um, for me, you know, it didn't really matter The name of the school, necessarily.
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Kentucky's in the SEC, which is my well not even, in my opinion, mostly everyone's opinion, the best conference in college football.
00:22:53
So that's a funny I mean, like, personally.
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Like if you look at it just from like if you're many, it more like an NFL way that those teams have more people get the NFL.
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If you actually like, look into it.
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Kentucky takes, you know, one starting to start talents and they go second round of the draft, especially a towline.
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So if you know they haven't, I think I'm like the sixth highest player like ever in Kentucky, like in the 247 era to commit at all positions.
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So I mean, if you like, look at I mean, everyone above me was in the NFL, all those kids that were just a little flecks that went there.
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But I'm saying, like, um, you know, you have like those to the two star llamazares ratings doesn't even mean anything once you get to college.
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Especially, um, you know, if they could take what these professional you know, graders of talent basically and make those kids who are, you know, rated load me and turn them into NFL, um, talent that goes first or second round, then, um, to me, um, it's up to me toe, you know, let them develop me and let them put me in the right position to go do that.
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And obviously, I wanna help my home town school.
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I've seen Kentucky struggle to like the Joker era, and now they're in the Stoops era, and it's it's an upward trend.
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Um, so I wanna be a part of that, Like those I don't You probably don't know they are, Anthony, but I know Michael.
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No, they are like cash and Drake and landed and all those guys who are all Americans that stayed home and they help Kentucky get their first few bull winds and forever and I wanna be part of the class that helps Kentucky get, you know, an sec east when, and you get high ranking all that except got a heart attack right now.
00:24:35
That's all. Joy. Right there. That's love.
00:24:38
See, I wanna ask that I follow up with that.
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You said land in there too.
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Did that takes some factor into your decision to because, I mean, our offensive line is probably, I would say, ranked second or third in the whole nation.
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And, you know, some of the guys were seniors.
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We're gonna be going professional very soon.
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It the fact that you think, Hey, I could possibly move into a role freshman year or you look to maybe not playing much of freshman year and then sop****re year going, or do you think you'll be going straight into that? Um, it's a little bit different alcove it and stuff, but like all those guys who are going to go, the draft that I rejected are obviously gonna go to the draft like landing Drake Conard.
00:25:15
So that's four people off, then.
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You know, if there's four open spots and I can play all all the positions.
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So you know, it's four opportunity media on the field freshman. You.
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I could play s that, but that was another thing.
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E wanted to be able to make an impact like early whenever I came in and not have Thio, you know, wait, um, to be able to play.
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I wanted to be able to help somewhere that you get on the field fast and help like instantly as soon as I got there.
00:25:42
So there was a good opportunity that of Kentucky says another factor.
00:25:45
Yeah.
00:25:46
Okay.
00:25:47
Um, really, That pretty much concludes everything.
00:25:50
It's been wonderful.
00:25:51
Now I've got some other questions here, actually have, like, 10 more questions, But these air questions that I just kind of come at you fast.
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First thing you think I'm just go ahead and and say almost like a hot Tecora hot seat.
00:26:01
Are you cool with that? Sounds good.
00:26:03
That was your first question. Good job.
00:26:07
First question.
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Favorite food.
00:26:09
Uh, wings.
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Oh, you know what? You're my favorite player now.
00:26:15
Now, question one beast.
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Did you say that? Boneless.
00:26:19
We're boned.
00:26:20
Listen, now, you can't answer this one wrong, though. Bonin.
00:26:23
Thank you.
00:26:24
All right, I'm getting your jersey, Theo.
00:26:27
Interior.
00:26:28
Did I heard a little New Yorker there.
00:26:30
Alright, favorite player.
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Any sport, anything? Just you.
00:26:34
Favorite player, Walker parks.
00:26:37
It sounds good. Sounds good.
00:26:40
What's your favorite team? Um For what? NFL.
00:26:45
Whatever.
00:26:46
You wanna? Yeah.
00:26:47
We'll just go NFL. Um, the Browns.
00:26:51
Just a just a guess. Wow.
00:26:56
This man was drafted by the Brown, so just throwing that out.
00:27:00
Patriots need a little online help right now, so I'm just saying, All right, Who is your favorite superhero? the flesh, the flash while the flash.
00:27:15
Well, like if I could choose a superpower, that would be it.
00:27:17
Because you can do, like anything that all the other super Ozcan dio like you could go back in time.
00:27:22
You could go to the future because you can run so fast, and then you run fast.
00:27:26
You could be like the best you could be like Olympic gold medalists.
00:27:30
You do? Every every sport would be the best running back of all time.
00:27:34
You know what? I am just gonna stop saying it.
00:27:38
Your head on your shoulder seems very far to be at your age.
00:27:43
I will say that.
00:27:44
Like I'm just asking you these simple questions.
00:27:46
And you had Ah, legit.
00:27:47
Thought out. Answer on that.
00:27:49
Kudos to you.
00:27:50
I like that.
00:27:51
All right, kind of. Go ahead.
00:27:54
Oh, God.
00:27:55
Where are we at? Oh, what's your What's your major gonna bay? I don't know yet either.
00:28:00
Like business e business journalism.
00:28:04
Probably.
00:28:05
You are monitoring in journalism.
00:28:07
So I got you. Don't you worry.
00:28:09
Okay.
00:28:10
There you go.
00:28:11
If you need any mentoring on yours, Yeah, you can mentor me on on all things you know, lifting wise.
00:28:17
I got you with the journalism. Now.
00:28:19
I got you, boss. Don't you worry.
00:28:20
Okay? Now you can't say football, but dream job other than football, like a sports agent.
00:28:29
Ooh, Not so you like the rock.
00:28:32
Yeah.
00:28:33
Okay, now, here's my last question for the day.
00:28:37
And it's just what can we expect from you at UK? Um, it's hard to say.
00:28:43
Honestly, I mean, like, obviously, like, do my best everything I can and try to help as much as I possibly can.
00:28:50
But it's really hard to say, You know, I haven't I haven't been able to be there for so long.
00:28:54
And there's so many moving pieces right now.
00:28:56
Like Corona.
00:28:57
It's hard toe give, like a sure answer.
00:28:59
But yeah, I'm trying to get as many, you know, high rated people.
00:29:04
There is possibly can and like, help help the program and get to the next step in on that.
00:29:09
I have one question.
00:29:10
One more question way.
00:29:14
Obviously, like when people get recruited places or things like that, there's always the comparisons.
00:29:19
Thio.
00:29:20
You know, current players or players before and they kind of annoyed me.
00:29:23
So who not who do you compare yourself to Because anybody you look at right now, like NFL, even college wise, whatever you want, Uh, that you not so much compare yourself to.
00:29:33
But I don't know, maybe you wanna be like or look up to right now, we're just love what they're doing.
00:29:38
Um, right.
00:29:40
I'm trying to think my 24 7 profile has, like a comparison, but I don't know who it is, Dan.
00:29:46
Your I've never watched him before, but that I guess that's who they say I don't really compare myself to really anyone.
00:29:53
Honestly, I like how Quinton Nelson place.
00:29:55
I think we have, like, a somewhat similar place style, but I'm a little more like, focused on like I like running.
00:30:03
I feel like and he's more like a hard nose.
00:30:05
Um, you know, put you in that.
00:30:07
I like pulling in, getting an open field and like, blocking safeties and stuff like that.
00:30:14
So, yeah, saying that's good.
00:30:17
Uh, that has all my questions.
00:30:19
I'm just gonna ask this one, because the problem ahead at Kentucky are we only going to see you on offense or do you think Stoops may want to play you at defense? Because I know, right now you're focusing on offense and even 47 said something about moving to guard.
00:30:33
But, you know, you could play all four positions there.
00:30:35
What? What position? You think you'd want to play most? Um, my 247 e Think it says I'm like, 63 But I'm like, 65 now.
00:30:43
So I'm I'm calling up to play at least be tackle.
00:30:46
So I would like just wherever they need me, especially freshman year.
00:30:50
But as I get older, you're not obviously liked.
00:30:52
Especially if I'm getting looked at for the NFL.
00:30:54
I'd like to move to tackle because that's where you know that, Z that's where the money is.
00:30:59
That baby, don't be afraid to say it.
00:31:00
I'll say it for you.
00:31:02
Don't you worry about the money that.
00:31:04
But they have mentioned some defense, maybe, um, but I'm not sure.
00:31:09
Obviously, it just depends.
00:31:10
Um, they actually recruit.
00:31:12
Really? I'm a real d line, but you know what I mean? Like really, really d lineman eso I I'll play whatever they tell me too.
00:31:19
But I've heard a little bit.
00:31:20
Everything I've heard like tied in from other schools to obviously doesn't matter anymore, but whatever.
00:31:26
They need me to play it.
00:31:27
I'll play.
00:31:28
You'll be the Jabrill Peppers of offline way.
00:31:32
Well, guys, that really wraps up our show.
00:31:34
We're at the 30 minute mark.
00:31:35
We gotta hop on off here real soon.
00:31:38
Jagger. So much.
00:31:39
Thank you.
00:31:40
So so much for coming on here.
00:31:41
Really Appreciate it.
00:31:42
Connie, thank you for jumping out here, too.
00:31:43
So I had another face to look at.
00:31:45
Kind of mimics mind a little bit.
00:31:46
Just a little downgrade from me, but that's okay.
00:31:48
Uh, I guess you know, I don't really wanna take Jaggers time here and promote our other shows that we want to.
00:31:54
But, Connie, if you wanna go ahead, take it real quick.
00:31:56
Minute there. Go ahead. Talk about your blip, boys.
00:31:58
Yeah, just check out.
00:31:59
What's boys on Mondays, me and Josh do it.
00:32:02
Seven Eastern, four Pacific.
00:32:04
So if you want to check that out, go ahead.
00:32:06
But, you know, like Michael said, thanks so much for joining.
00:32:09
This was cool. Is the first time I've interviewed somebody.
00:32:11
You know, I'll say it.
00:32:12
Somebody of your status, Uh, somebody that I could be watching on Saturdays and Sundays.
00:32:16
Maybe Sunday exactly.
00:32:19
**** right.
00:32:20
So I appreciate it.
00:32:21
And Michael, thanks for asking me to hop on.
00:32:24
All right, guys, you all have a good one.
00:32:26
Everyone. Thank you all so much for watching this.

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