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00:00:01
Yeah.
00:00:10
All right, everybody, let's try this more time.
00:00:12
We'll come back to Sports Astor News with Matt Brooks and Adam are Brecht.
00:00:16
We're talking about the n B season that is actually like, seeming like it's gonna happen.
00:00:21
Adam, how are you doing today? Fantastic, man.
00:00:23
Listen, things were getting closer faster than we thought they were going to.
00:00:27
And I'm totally fine, too fast forward and just start up a brand new MBA season right now.
00:00:33
Yeah, no, I mean, it's been an interesting couple of days.
00:00:35
The announcement obviously happened.
00:00:36
This tweet and like, as usual, it's just because I have nowhere has a lot of things happen.
00:00:40
The N B A.
00:00:41
This year, um, seems like they've got a couple of things they need to figure out, like I think that there are, and I'll start with this.
00:00:47
Like the way the timeline set up.
00:00:50
It's pretty aggressive for like, 30 days.
00:00:51
I know we technically have like 54 so, but really, it's it's you're losing a whole month because you're not really doing anything until the draft and any of the draft free agency training camp.
00:01:03
So right now it seems to me a little unrealistic.
00:01:06
I'll start out with that.
00:01:08
I I personally, I'm in that camp.
00:01:10
I I think it's not gonna look like the way it does right at this second for much longer.
00:01:15
Yeah, you know, this was actually e remember going back during the bubble.
00:01:20
They have thrown this out around.
00:01:22
Maybe we'll start on Christmas Day, and that's going to kick off the following season.
00:01:26
But then it seemed like the n b A collectively took a step back and said right, But depending on when these finals wrap up, it's not a lot of time, and they backed off of it, so it's weird to see them kind of reintroduce it.
00:01:36
Now I know the N B.
00:01:38
A is probably looking at the balance off, right, because the later you started, ultimately the MBA school is to get back on track with what their standards schedule is.
00:01:47
They don't want to get this thing.
00:01:48
We've talked about that before, so if they want to get back on track, you have to start a little bit sooner and then make the the very tight choice of how many games are we gonna play.
00:01:59
So even with even when starting on Christmas.
00:02:01
I think they're still then flirting with 72 games instead of 82.
00:02:04
If you started a little bit later, maybe it's only 62 that can be ultimately overall. Fine.
00:02:10
But then you get into revenue and TV deals and all that kind of stuff that you're trying to find and strike the right balance with.
00:02:16
So I think that this is the MBA.
00:02:18
Maybe getting back in the books and saying We just may have to dial this thing up a little bit sooner than we anticipate.
00:02:24
Yeah, no, I mean, it's funny because there's a lot of different, like ways of, like, a lot of different parties in this.
00:02:30
So they have to get the c b A done, which means they obviously I think this is pretty, pretty clearly pushed by the board of governors or the owners.
00:02:40
Um, it just it feels kind of like that you like I've been listening to a podcast and stuff this week, and you have people like Low telling that telling, you know, Bobby Marks that he texted a couple of coaches and players and they were kind of like blindsided by it to a degree like, I think that that tells me that this is probably not something that was a, you know, something that has been agreed upon by all parties, Which is why I'm like, I'm still kind of waiting.
00:03:08
I'm like, Okay, like what? They do need toe, like like you think about the bubble.
00:03:12
The big thing last time was that big call that I think was set up by Chris Paul on LeBron.
00:03:18
And, you know, it was it was for the MBA p a kind of explaining the terms and the conditions and like what it was gonna be like in that bubble.
00:03:25
So I don't feel like we've had that moment yet, and I just I'm still a little weary, like I'm not quite sure when it's gonna feel real yet, because you have all of, like, LeBron's teammates, like give Jared Dudley on Twitter, being like, you know, well, LeBron's going to sit out the first month and Danny Green basically saying, Well, lebron's gonna sit up, you know, it's 20 games or so eso there's a couple of things around that, because I guess first, it's it's like saying, Is this the league softly putting something out there in the, you know, in the media kind of landscape for the players to respond to.
00:04:01
And that's how you get a soft read on whether or not some superstars will be into it, or whether or not to be pushed back after what was a weird and different, you know, unique cir***stances in the bubble.
00:04:10
There there's that side of it.
00:04:13
But then, when you talk about LeBron James the Well, here's the weird thing to May.
00:04:18
I think it makes total sense that guys like Danny Green or Jared w like there's no way that LeBron is gonna play.
00:04:23
He's going to get the 1st 20 games.
00:04:25
And then I also think.
00:04:27
But LeBron was the most vocal about going down to the bubble and doing the darn thing.
00:04:32
So, like, I understand the from a 18 inches 18th year LeBron Probably not a big fan of it, but I also look at it and think, Is LEBRON really gonna push back on getting the next season started? Sooner possibly.
00:04:45
I know there's wear and tear on his body and also it might be just a swell that Hey, if I keep myself in peak condition for a couple of months.
00:04:52
Here I can roll right into the season and not have the low of the off season and getting back into playing condition.
00:04:56
And then, by the way, you could do the thing that the MBA doesn't love, which I think would be one of the sacrifices they make if they want to start around Christmas would be to say all those things about load management, that we push back on coaches about not starting their stars.
00:05:10
Guess what.
00:05:11
If they're not gonna be fans and a lot of these arenas to start the season, which you don't anticipate, there will be LeBron James can have a couple, you know, he can play five out of the 1st 15 games or play 10 to 12 minutes for the initial start of the season and not have it really impact them as you move through it.
00:05:25
So I just wonder, Is this directly? Is this a LeBron coming through the players or is this just kind of these guys being like there's no way he do it? Because we did experience maybe what he was going through physically mentally down in the bubble, so the legitimacy of both sides of this is interesting.
00:05:41
Like I I don't know how either the superstar Steel and I don't know how committed the MBA is to this based on how the responses they get.
00:05:50
I've just never seen other players speak for LEBRON like this, which kind of tells me that he is probably having these conversations, especially with deadly.
00:05:57
I think Dudley has become really close with him.
00:05:59
So eso I do kind of think there's some legitimacy legitimacy behind this.
00:06:04
Two things with LeBron LeBron.
00:06:06
Let's be honest.
00:06:07
LeBron wants to win again like he wants to get in the conversation with Jordan.
00:06:10
It's it's very clear that that's a major narrative that I think the MBA should be wanting to push.
00:06:17
I I would push it because I think that it it generates a lot of conversation, and I think that he knows that, like, what are you gonna I mean, you could push the what are you gonna push if he's sitting gains and or they don't win.
00:06:31
Like what is it? This is it the the ads like I don't is it the Clippers? Is dawn Chicks like you have LeBron in the league.
00:06:39
I think you need to take advantage of that.
00:06:40
I think you need to try and push him as much as humanly possible.
00:06:46
The other thing is LeBron doesn't like to miss games like he knows the value of like people turning on the people turn on the Lakers toe, watch him.
00:06:54
People turned on the Cavs toe.
00:06:55
Watch him.
00:06:56
He understands that he's always leaned into that.
00:06:58
He's never been a load management guy, so I do think to a degree like they those those statement should be taken seriously from Deadly and Danny Green.
00:07:08
And not just oh, this is just somebody complaining the complaint like I do think there's something behind that.
00:07:14
That's fair.
00:07:15
The funny thing about our interesting thing about we talk about what is the narrative going to be around the league like, unfortunately or, unfortunately, Yanis coming up short likes to say, If anywhere these past couple of years Yanis had won a championship, then I think you could start to shift This mentality over to a narrative of hay is Yannis starting toe cement his legacy and what is t chasing down early in his still relatively quote early in his career.
00:07:39
Or if you have had Kevin Durant back on the floor already, be interesting to say.
00:07:42
I think there's gonna be some really nice storylines in this leader that worked last year like Kevin Durant's return of What Is Brooklyn look like? The other thing that I do wonder about beyond those narratives is what is the impact two teams around the league in this truncated timeline.
00:07:58
So you know, we've talked about the Lakers and what tweaks or they're gonna make the roster behind the scenes or even the Milwaukee Bucks and saying, Well, maybe we're gonna really swap some things out here.
00:08:07
The Toronto Raptors with lower than Fleet, you know, potential moving pieces, even Miami and who they may pursue.
00:08:13
Do you think that, like all these teams, if you're if you knew you were good, are you just gonna go? You know what? And I know I already know there's also the next offseason was the bigger one.
00:08:21
But do you start to look and go? You know what guys like.
00:08:23
I don't know how much risk we want to take coming in on a short turnaround, maybe bringing in new pieces and losing some level of continuity that we never quite get back by the end of the year.
00:08:34
You know, the Lakers, you still have your major two players.
00:08:37
A lot of these teams are going to.
00:08:38
But even if you're the Lakers, talk about swapping out some of these pieces like, you know, this worked.
00:08:42
Do you want to run the risk? Like maybe they get Mawr interested in bringing back Rondo just because they know that that piece work for them when it came to the playoff push and what they wanted to accomplish? The Clippers and what they're gonna look to do about semi blowing up that roster behind Kawhi Leonard and PG like it becomes interesting to see how teams maybe push the pause button on what would have been plans if they had a couple more months beyond what could be a you know, a new timeline.
00:09:07
Yeah, I know.
00:09:08
I think that's kind of a drag to like I get the idea of trying like I get the money side of this, but I don't I just I don't feel like any of the reactions that we've gotten from from like, because that that's been expressed I think, like certain, like executives and stuff like that in in, like, anonymous executives, as that usually is reported, Um has kind of made that point of like, yeah, we don't really want to shift our roster around since we have, like, we're putting our coaches in a terrible spot.
00:09:38
Um, being like, hey, you got you have to figure out exactly how your team's gonna work.
00:09:42
Like, I think that's the like.
00:09:44
Take the Lakers from last year.
00:09:45
That's the beauty of they showed up to training camp and after a pretty, like from all accounts And like talking with people, um, that cover the team like a pretty intense training camp where they basically leaned into this like defensive approach.
00:10:00
Um, they came out of there with, like, a clear prerogative on on day one and just basically said, We're gonna dio we're gonna be the defensive team.
00:10:09
I know it's LeBron.
00:10:10
I know it's a d.
00:10:11
We're actually gonna be like a you know, the 2004 Pistons with like at 7 ft, you know, whatever.
00:10:18
Like I that stretches the floor and and LeBron James like they basically came in with this idea and I think it's because they had that extra time.
00:10:26
So, um and I also I me personally like I'm excited If it does start the 22nd, I do get a little worried about injuries, for one, but I'm really more concerned about like, if you went really far in the playoffs, like, does this not kind of disadvantage you and I honestly, like, I'm not like a Lakers fan or anything like that.
00:10:46
In fact, I'm probably more of the opposite, but I kind of hate that like, yeah, like they're gonna be They don't have a ton of time off and, you know, it just it doesn't feel quite as fair in a lot of ways for them to win and then be like, Oh, we're the most, you know, penalized essentially well, when you look across the finals there with the Miami Heat, right? Like now, by all, by all standards, they over achieved this year in the bubble.
00:11:09
But you talk about Jimmy Butler dealing with injuries.
00:11:11
Drag its was dealing with injuries, bandana, bio dealing with injuries.
00:11:14
And I think if you saw say it starts December 22nd by the end of January, if if any one of those players came down with an injury of of some level of significant injury, you be you.
00:11:29
You look back and say right because this guy could have used a solid three or four months recovery time.
00:11:34
So let his body get back and prepare for this level of into tense as opposed to running them in.
00:11:40
And now, you know, we talked about it on the front end of the bubble.
00:11:43
It looks it all worked out.
00:11:45
All felt incredibly legitimate.
00:11:46
But now going to this next year will be those same questions off.
00:11:50
Well, did this cost the Miami Heat And they weren't able to get back into a deep playoff run like they wanted to.
00:11:54
Did it affect the Lakers? And then, you know, maybe fortunate.
00:11:58
If you're the Clippers, you go.
00:12:00
Well, maybe it worked out that we got kicked out earlier than we anticipated in the playoffs, or the Milwaukee Bucks might look at that.
00:12:05
The same way and go wasn't great.
00:12:08
But also, we come in that much more fresh now to start the season.
00:12:11
So you know, as you and I think it agreed it is what it is around Cove in 19 and what it's caused the shifts off, and that's still a part of what you're seeing here.
00:12:20
I think, for the n b A and all sports, we're gonna try to be recovering from a bad financial year.
00:12:25
You just have to live with it.
00:12:26
And I guess the other thing is you talk about maybe getting that rest early in the season.
00:12:31
It's Yeah, What is the balance for the MBA of saying, Yes, we come back early.
00:12:36
But if x number of teams with big name players like LeBron and like even Jimmy Butler, you know those teams, if they say the 1st 15 20 games, we're gonna kind of put it in neutral and wait to start Thio, ease ourselves into it.
00:12:50
Does that cost the quality of the product that you're putting out? So is starting starting the season that much earlier? Actually, going to is impactful as they wanted to be.
00:12:58
If some of the superstar say, Yeah, we'll see you at the end of January.
00:13:01
We're going to give ourselves extra time to kind of get back into the flow of things.
00:13:05
Yeah, no, I mean I don't know.
00:13:08
I think like I think no matter what, you're gonna have a plan that has a lot of questions.
00:13:13
But like this one just feels like there's a lot of fun like, But I also think Maura questions.
00:13:18
Yeah, like it just like I don't know.
00:13:21
So that's it's It's really tricky.
00:13:25
I and I also get like, there is the report came out.
00:13:27
They'd be losing, like, $5500 million or something like that. Or maybe it's 50.
00:13:31
I might have added a zero there regardless.
00:13:34
Yeah, it's a lot of money that they're losing if they don't.
00:13:37
If they do even know, like MLK Day.
00:13:38
So I think that's probably gonna be the biggest thing that pushes this.
00:13:41
Um, I think I mean, part of it's like we just had such an amazing NBA season and the bubble was awesome, like I I get if you have to sacrifice certain things to try to get the one to get the calendar back on track because I think they've learned just through the ratings, not I don't want to call it a fiasco because every single sports ratings were down, but yeah, almost by a consistent percentage, too, so yeah, it's the case to be made that like it's solely based on what was going on.
00:14:10
It's not about when you played, but I don't think the n b A is ever gonna wrap their head around that for sure.
00:14:14
Yeah, I mean and like I think because of that, like it just like, became such a common point of discussion.
00:14:20
I think they want to get away from that.
00:14:21
So maybe they feel like they wanted, like if they get back to the schedule that they've been using forever like this, that conversation doesn't come up, which I get, Um, but I mean outside of that, like, I just think they wanna, like, try to, like, bring things back to where they were and and just again, like the money thing of this.
00:14:38
If they if this season and it's that kind of I don't want to say, it sucks because it's great if they bring the season back.
00:14:45
But if the season does like hurt a little bit from doing this or there's more injuries, it's It's a weird year and it is like kind of a year where I think in a normal cir***stance to be really fun, like, Look at how many teams air interesting.
00:14:59
So, you know, you have, like the Clippers that are ready to do just about anything.
00:15:02
The Bucks last year.
00:15:04
Yannis the Lakers, obviously, for LeBron reasons.
00:15:07
The Nets, Who knows? And then there's a couple of other younger teams Denver, the Celtics, all these teams that, like again, it feels kind of like a year where everybody's vying for, you know, top spot.
00:15:18
And I guess right now would be the Lakers.
00:15:20
But I just I don't wanna like selfishly, I don't want to sacrifice.
00:15:25
I don't wanna lose any parts of that because of, you know, a free agency period where teams like they could be less aggressive or ah, Lakers team that looks fatigued and tired throughout the year.
00:15:35
It never really gets rest or anything like that.
00:15:37
Um, I don't know.
00:15:39
I just like it's tough.
00:15:41
It's gonna be an opportunity cost either way.
00:15:44
Yeah, and so there's something about the scheduling that I was interested in because it's it's a point that I have been bringing up previously when it comes Thio travel on player fatigue.
00:15:52
But what I will say on the front end is what could be nice for the MBA.
00:15:56
If you started it on the 22nd of December, you could get the excitement off.
00:16:01
Kevin Durant, Kyrie, Irving.
00:16:03
Right.
00:16:04
So Kevin Durant, coming back from a nice long vacation, hopefully healthy so they could be exciting toe watch that developed and they could be getting a lot of national TV games.
00:16:11
You got the Golden State Warriors and you have Steph Curry, and you have, you know, and you have Clay Thompson coming back.
00:16:17
So they could be an exciting story line early in the season.
00:16:19
And teams that even if they're a little bit out of sync because they haven't played together in a while because of those injuries, could still, but they're gonna be pushing it right.
00:16:26
They're gonna be finding their rhythm so you could find some exciting storylines and then you probably but another team that unfortunately like the Dallas Mavericks, they suffer in.
00:16:35
This is well because you have poor Zynga's who got surgery.
00:16:38
You also have Luke who's with his own injuries coming out of the bubble.
00:16:43
So there's a lot of fatigue there, but hopefully you get something small ones.
00:16:46
A couple other ones quickly that I think are unfortunate.
00:16:48
Or you have pelicans put bringing in a new coach that could potentially hurt them because they may not be able to swap out some pieces like they want to.
00:16:54
If you're the Brooklyn Nets and you're looking at Holiday, maybe that transaction doesn't happen because there's just not enough time.
00:17:00
Just sort out those details.
00:17:01
Ah, Coach like Billy Donovan moving over to Chicago.
00:17:03
That's exciting.
00:17:04
They may want to rebuild themselves, and that becomes harder to do on the fly.
00:17:08
So there's obviously both sides of the coin here and probably trends more negative than positive.
00:17:12
So that's the concern that I have the interesting thing when it comes to the schedule and travel that I've always brought up.
00:17:19
Players have talked about for years and years how it's brutal to get on a plane and travel somewhere and play back to back.
00:17:25
You know, flights impact the body in terms of physical health and well being.
00:17:29
And I think in this truncated season they've thrown out this idea of starting to do weekend Siris in places where you automatically say, if you're going to Chicago, you're gonna play them two games there.
00:17:41
There's no one and done and fly back.
00:17:43
That's something that if in the long term I think it makes sense for the N B A and they should have been doing it already is introduced like baseball.
00:17:50
You get there on a Thursday night and you play three games over the course of a weekend.
00:17:55
You leave on a Monday and it actually would create a little bit more excitement cause you could start to get a little chippy.
00:17:59
Some of those in game matchups would start to get pretty exciting over for three games in a short season.
00:18:04
In a shortened season, there may be only 72 or truncated like this.
00:18:08
That could also help mitigate the fatigue that some of these teams are suffering from.
00:18:12
If you go ahead and say, Hey, we have a chance here to maybe reduce your travel by 30 to 35% that may help offset and that could be something that could go to the players with and say, Hey, I understand it.
00:18:24
This isn't great to month turnaround, but over the course of the year you should be able to get an extra rest in this process and, you know, maybe that moves the needle for them with the players, especially when you talk about again getting the money back on track, which is also important to the players to, you know, more than other leagues.
00:18:39
The players for the MBA are pretty heavily invested in the quality of the league because it does directly impact them, unlike NFL or MLB.
00:18:48
Yeah, no, I think the like.
00:18:49
The serious thing is also interesting because, like, I wonder if teams like you start Thio, it's not gonna feel like playoff basketball.
00:18:56
Obviously, it's pretty hard to replicate that.
00:18:58
But by nature of playing a certain team multiple times in a couple of days, I do feel like, Yeah, I mean, look, you're playing basketball like it z gonna be fresh in your memory.
00:19:10
It will probably be in your short term memory of what certain players dio.
00:19:14
And just in playing that I think you're even if you're not consciously thinking about it.
00:19:19
I do think you're going to sort of learn like Okay, this person likes to go, uh, cross right and go to their left hand and try to draw contact by driving into me so whatever, like do little things like that.
00:19:29
So I would I would be I mean, I'd be in favor of it because I think the bubble showed us that you give players you cut down the travel time.
00:19:38
The basketball is better, like there's just no way to look.
00:19:41
And that's the biggest take away.
00:19:42
I think from this bubble, we probably never really would have figured that out if it hadn't been for this bubble.
00:19:46
And I think that's something that is going to be implemented going forward.
00:19:49
So that's awesome.
00:19:50
Um, I do also wonder like if you are now doing this, where you're playing in market, you're playing the same teams.
00:19:56
Uh, I I actually I wonder if that helps the regular season product, not just in terms of, like, rest, but, like, again, like just that, that feeling of seeing the same guys every other night or something like that.
00:20:08
I just I like that a lot.
00:20:10
I like I just I like I've always felt like that was an obvious move for them Well, and think about it, too.
00:20:15
So So you introduce these, you know, even if it's a minimum of two games.
00:20:19
Then again, you want to rest some guys. Well, guess what.
00:20:22
If you're coming to Brooklyn, LeBron, you can play one out of those two games still satisfied being in front of the Brooklyn market, the Brooklyn fan base or and it really that's a bad example.
00:20:31
It should be.
00:20:32
You know, the Hornets, when you go there where that's really important for the Hornets for their revenue toe, have LeBron on the court okay, especially if you got it to a three game Siri's kind of set up, which is the extreme version of it, but even over to if you give us one, then it's OK that you take off the next one and you can go ahead and balance that out if you're the Lakers, and then you can still build in those rest days while satisfying the fan base and the N B A.
00:20:54
In terms off, we need you on the court in these other cities, so that's the additional benefit that that you could find that common ground for these teams.
00:21:01
And I think you're right chip *****, you know, or or picking up on things right from a product standpoint, just like in a seven game Siri's how you have coaches adjust to the other team and the game plan they bring in if you are.
00:21:16
I don't want to use some of the high level guys.
00:21:18
But even if you're if you're Kyrie Irving and you're getting picked up in a weird matchup in LeBron's grabbing you what you learn in Game one to Game two to Game three of the weekend, Siri's would be really exciting to see what type of offensive moves this Kyrie try to bring at a bigger LeBron James.
00:21:37
How does LeBron James try to take on Kevin Durant? Well, he wants to move down the lane and over a couple of games serious, just like in the playoffs.
00:21:45
You would see those adjustment and you would see them on basically, you know, a game to game quote unquote right.
00:21:50
Siri's to Siri's.
00:21:51
In this season, you would get to see these player adjustments as well, so I think it would improve the product improved because the travels mitigated so the players are healthier and fresher.
00:21:59
And that's great.
00:22:00
And also the in game matchups and adjustments would look different, not unlike in baseball, when you see it from new picture comes in and you go, OK, what? The stats tell me about this guy.
00:22:10
You could have one or two games sample sizes each each season and say, Okay, I see.
00:22:15
When he goes left, he's even more likely to kick it out.
00:22:18
Now you already know that stuff in general, but how your defense forces his adjustments would be different than just hey, over the course of his career, we know Kyrie likes to go left, likes to go right, likes to pull up here in the mid range on a particular set.
00:22:33
But what did it look like from Game one? And how can we adjust a game, too? The one thing I think I will miss a little bit with the old way is that you kind of like you see the growth of certain teams throughout the year.
00:22:45
So, like the Lakers last year, they lost to the books.
00:22:48
I think early, I believe, by a considerable margin.
00:22:51
I think it was in December, right around February, when the season, really, you know, gets put on hold.
00:22:57
They beat the Clippers and then they beat the Bucks.
00:22:58
It was like this big, pivotal moment.
00:23:00
So in a way, that kind of e don't know it.
00:23:04
It's a shame to lose out on that to a degree.
00:23:07
But it also does make for like, more like it really is.
00:23:10
Like if you play, let's say the Lakers play the Clippers around like December and they try to do that so that, you know, you have their most watched games.
00:23:16
Well, then they probably don't play each other.
00:23:17
Really, until I don't know the playoffs like that's kind of interesting.
00:23:22
On the flip side, it's like, Oh, these teams have not played each other in four months.
00:23:26
We have no idea that, you know, think about like those teams are probably gonna be active in the buyout market.
00:23:31
It's like, Yeah, these teams played each other.
00:23:33
But, you know, whatever the Lakers, I don't know.
00:23:36
I I can't even find a buyout guide.
00:23:38
Yeah, the Lakers didn't have Gordon Hayward like, Well, so the way that it hurt.
00:23:44
I mean, Major league baseball has all kinds of issues, but the way that it hurts Major League baseball and to your point about may be diminishing the regular season games, right? Well, it's 100 182.
00:23:52
Game 162 game season.
00:23:53
Whatever baseball does, I'm a big baseball fan.
00:23:56
Uh, you know, it's it's it's a marathon, not a sprint.
00:24:00
That's always that how they refer to it.
00:24:01
So you see in a weekend Siri's how things can bubble up a little bit, especially based on what team you play.
00:24:07
But in the long run, right, you're 25 games into the season, your four games below 500 they're always saying, Well, you know, it's a marathon, not a sprint will round ourselves into form.
00:24:17
You could get a little bit of that into the MBA, to your point, you know, taking away some of the some of the punch in some of these games.
00:24:22
But then, by doing this, Siri's If if you schedule it outright, you could give give a 10 game run time and then get the Clippers Lakers relatively early season match up.
00:24:33
And maybe they don't see each other again until just before the playoffs.
00:24:36
And you know you can try to match up those really big ones where, especially then, from a standing standpoint in the Western Conference, maybe even more so where things were really, really tight in the even almost top to bottom, but 2 to 8 or even 3 to 8 or really, really tight.
00:24:51
If you line this up right, you could end up teams playing three games, Siri's.
00:24:54
And if you take two out of three, you're talking about jumping yourself from the sixth seed to the four seed and switching these matchups.
00:25:01
And those are things that we do know down the stretch of the NBA seasons.
00:25:04
Typically, Ah, lot of those games don't matter.
00:25:06
By the back end of it, you're resting guys.
00:25:08
You're still going to see that with the top seeds.
00:25:10
But you couldn't make things more interesting for a handful of those games.
00:25:13
So there's all these given takes and, uh, let's listen.
00:25:17
I'm all for whatever gets the product back on the court sooner, But I also want within reason, whatever the best, the best version is going to be.
00:25:25
So you have to take into account what superstars like LeBron are going to be for or against, because if you don't have him for 30 games this season, your obvious, it doesn't matter.
00:25:33
It doesn't matter what else you Dio the product's gonna be diminished.
00:25:36
Yeah, I know the LeBron thing is really key.
00:25:38
I think like that is just like that's gonna be the big that's gonna move a lot of things around.
00:25:43
Like if he's not, if they don't have the LeBron by and I don't know what they do I mean, I e guess they just It'll be interesting.
00:25:50
I haven't seen the league and LeBron not work hand in hand.
00:25:54
And, like I feel like his entire career, I just e remember a time.
00:25:58
Um, it's funny, like in talking about this.
00:26:00
It's kind of funny how, like divisions are suddenly a little bit important again.
00:26:05
So, like if you're the King's like, you have to go through Phoenix, the Lakers, the Clippers, the Warriors? Yeah, I think that's everything.
00:26:13
So that that that almost was like a little bit of an unfair a situation where if you're another, I don't know what what's another one like the art? It's I believe there's a horse I don't even know anymore.
00:26:24
So I believe it's the Hornets.
00:26:26
The the Heat, the magic, the Hawks maybe.
00:26:31
And then is there one more? I'm forgetting one.
00:26:34
I'm gonna put you get them both.
00:26:38
Where did they dio? I used to know that I was a kid.
00:26:41
Yeah, the Southeast is made up of Miami.
00:26:45
Got Miami, Orlando Charlot, Washington and the Atlanta Hawks.
00:26:49
That is, that makes up the Southeast God, while the Chicago Bulls find themselves in the the Milwaukee, Indiana, Detroit and Cleveland Club.
00:27:01
Also not like that.
00:27:02
So that that's the part.
00:27:04
Also, that I'm like.
00:27:05
Okay, so you play those teams Mawr and like that's just like that's just extra winds on your schedule.
00:27:12
So they have to figure out how to do that.
00:27:14
Maybe.
00:27:15
I mean, I'm sure they're going to structure it where, like if you haven't easier market, then you actually traveled to the really hard market and they structure it like that.
00:27:22
But again, like already, making a schedule is already hard enough.
00:27:24
Like now, I think it is a little bit trickier because you have ones that are just inherently easier and ones that air inherently a little bit tougher.
00:27:31
Well, when you think about, though, though, I suppose the distance between, say, Boston and Toronto is obviously less than it is from the other areas.
00:27:38
But when you talk about the Atlantic Division, where it's Boston, Philadelphia, essentially New York and New York, right? Brooklyn in New York.
00:27:44
Toronto would find itself on the outside looking in on this in terms of travel, because you'd be saying, Well, you're in the same division.
00:27:51
You're gonna play these guys more like right, But we're in Toronto.
00:27:53
Everyone understand, Like, you know.
00:27:55
So how? How how you structure those things would certainly be interesting, too.
00:27:58
But your point, your point makes sense.
00:28:00
It's maybe you get the the tougher Western coat West Coast swing if you're in one of these weaker divisions and then also, while you may not love it, that's the reality, right? I mean, I'm a giant sky, and right now the NFC East is an absolute disaster.
00:28:13
And you know, that probably shakes out in the end anyway, because okay, so you're in, you're in a bad division and one good team beats him up on everybody else.
00:28:21
But if you're not that good, you lose in the first round of the playoffs.
00:28:23
So you know, even the accomplishment of winning that division of having the weaker schedule usually plays itself out.
00:28:28
By the time you get to the playoffs, so I actually wouldn't hate.
00:28:32
It's weird because I'm really of two minds.
00:28:33
I'm a abolish all divisions, including, you know, including including the Western and Eastern Conference E.
00:28:39
That's what I love and that that's where I land like 99% of the way.
00:28:45
But then when you when you just said division, I was like, Right, there's divisions in basketball.
00:28:49
My mind does go to that of being like Boy, you could make it more exciting if you actually made the divisional basketball even more important now in terms of quality and how it all flushes out come playoff time, that that would be debatable.
00:29:01
But it would be interesting to think about it in that way now that they have, you have balanced it out in terms of number of teams.
00:29:08
You know? Listen what you know, what's the percentage you would wanna put on? A 35% of your schedule gets played in division, and then you still get that other 65 to balance out in terms of the competitive, you know where these teams really rank, but it would be interesting if you put some more on there because, as you can tell, Matt and I barely knew what the names of divisions were let alone who was in them.
00:29:27
So either either get rid of them or make them more important.
00:29:30
You got to go one way or the other right now, because otherwise it's just this weird formality.
00:29:34
For what? When you look, I was gonna use one of the worst references possible when you look in the paper to check the standings.
00:29:40
This is where things is, where I'm at right now.
00:29:42
But, you know, like when you look at the standings, you don't think about Atlantic Division.
00:29:44
Oh, my God, Look at the Atlantic Division.
00:29:46
It's sure is tight this year, you know, you're just looking at okay, what's the record? Where their fourth seat? Okay, so, you know, go full blown and just rank these teams out and let it and let it go that way.
00:29:55
And then a team like the Kings would if they're better than six of the Eastern Conference playoff teams, you'll get in there.
00:30:03
You'll make your way into the playoffs, as opposed to sitting.
00:30:05
There is an 11th or 12th seed in the West.
00:30:08
Yeah, I do feel like it puts the West teams like even Maura to disadvantage.
00:30:11
Like certain West teams.
00:30:12
I think like it.
00:30:13
Just like even if Phoenix suffers right, you're a young, exciting team and you're gonna have to fight to get into the to make that final playoff spot.
00:30:21
You could be a six seed in the Eastern Conference.
00:30:24
Yep. Um, no.
00:30:26
And it's funny, like we have all these questions about this, and it's like they don't have a C B a done, which is like like a problem like they like.
00:30:33
I don't know how we're supposed to do any of this.
00:30:35
We can't have a draft till the CBS done.
00:30:36
We can't have free agency, told CBS.
00:30:38
Done can't have started the season till the CBS done.
00:30:40
So you have all these questions, and like all these little things that they need to figure out, I'm sure they've already started this.
00:30:45
Not like they're like, Oh, here we are like, you know, whatever what they is right now.
00:30:49
It's October 27th, and they need Thio like we don't know what what we're doing.
00:30:56
It's like, No, they know they have that idea, but I do think like to a degree.
00:31:00
None of again executives haven't seen a c b A.
00:31:03
Players need to know what a c b A.
00:31:05
As I saw a report came out yesterday, I think the key Smith, who put this out that the players that are like, kind of on the fringes they're losing opportunities overseas because some of those more higher paying, um, positions are essentially they're gonna run out of time on those.
00:31:23
So the n B A needs to like, figure it out like they need to, like, figure it out this week.
00:31:28
It's just it's a lot of It's a lot of big things that they need to figure out, especially if they're doing this in market things like the nice part about the bubble.
00:31:35
You gotta figure out the testing.
00:31:36
That's hard.
00:31:38
That's really hard.
00:31:39
But you once you figure that part out, and that's like, no easy task, obviously like s.
00:31:43
So they're like the only they're the only organization in the entire country that feels like they figure it out.
00:31:48
But, um, but like the, you know, to a degree like, once you get that done like, I guess everything else is like they you know we're on the bubble, you have hotels and, like you just play like this is different because you have to figure out markets and figure out safety.
00:32:03
Still like it is, it's just a lot of different things.
00:32:06
And, you know, they had to figure out a C B a.
00:32:08
At least the C B A was figured out by the like before they even got into the bubble.
00:32:12
So that's what I'm gonna say.
00:32:13
So the one footnote is is like the c b A.
00:32:15
And you've already heard the rumors that, like players and teams and agents, there's a lot of deals kind of getting set in place.
00:32:22
And then So you'll you'll know what's been going on in the MBA when they finally come out with these things and they say the market is now open and you just hear the 20 deals get done within the 1st 12 hours.
00:32:32
It means that they've been taking care of this stuff, and I would assume the league is probably gonna look the other way and a lot of that and they do in general.
00:32:38
But even more so this year because you understand the short timeframe.
00:32:41
Um But I I The other thing that I wonder about is you just said it, man.
00:32:49
It was 106 days.
00:32:51
If you went wire to wire, if you were the the heat or the Lakers in the bubble, you're gonna be asking again.
00:32:58
You're gonna start this lead up two months later and there's gonna be some level of bubbling here required by teams, whether it is in the small, you know, small of just Hey, when you travel to these places, it's gonna be three or four days.
00:33:09
You'll stay in that market.
00:33:10
You'll play them a couple times, etcetera.
00:33:12
You're still gonna be asking something of these players again and that specifically to LeBron James, or to buy any of those guys on those two teams, or even the ones that in the Western Conference files as well.
00:33:21
You know, you're saying, Hey, and now let's kick this thing off.
00:33:25
And also would you mind not really traveling or going out or seeing people too much? Because it will, just like we've seen in the NFL.
00:33:32
We saw small cases when MLB was getting under way.
00:33:34
It's gonna impact the sport and the season and Maybe I wonder if the MBA is thinking about that in terms of starting sooner and saying We probably anticipate having some setbacks and having to shuffle the schedule.
00:33:47
So getting things kicked off quicker means we'll have a little bit of wiggle room throughout the year to say We gotta cancel this game.
00:33:53
We need to move that one.
00:33:54
This team needs to shut it down for maybe a week, so there's a lot of moving parts there.
00:33:58
But you are asking a lot of your employee base to say, Let's do this thing again Not as restricted as we were in Orlando, but still still putting Cem.
00:34:07
You know, that's a heavy ask man.
00:34:09
It's a heavy ass to tell everybody like, Listen, you're gonna have to Onley see, You're just be with your families beyond the road and that's it.
00:34:16
Now the highest level athletes, the guy that the guys that are really honed in like LeBron James, I assume that's mostly what he does during the year anyway.
00:34:23
But even just going out to dinners, you know, and those little socializing and those little get away opportunities, those are gonna go away.
00:34:28
They already taking away the All Star break things like that.
00:34:31
So you know, there's still a lot of questions.
00:34:34
Is the best way that I can frame.
00:34:35
There's still a ton of questions here.
00:34:36
And until the n b a kind of pushes thes things out, you HearMe or details and the players are on board with it.
00:34:41
I have no way toe mentally commit to December 22nd.
00:34:45
I'm going to see MBA games.
00:34:46
Well, I do feel like we're gonna get news in the next couple of days.
00:34:50
I I think we can.
00:34:51
We can leave it on that.
00:34:52
I do think that we'll be back.
00:34:53
We'll be doing discussion about this.
00:34:55
I you know, it was a big leak.
00:34:56
Day yesterday, Mondays, Fridays Tend to be just seems like all the days just for for any scheduling stuff.
00:35:03
That seems to be when the stuff comes out.
00:35:05
So we'll have a better idea.
00:35:06
Maybe we get lucky on our Thursday show.
00:35:08
We have some stuff there.
00:35:10
Um, I wanted to let you plug away anything you have going on this week.
00:35:13
Anything you got on your channel? Um, yeah.
00:35:16
Listen, we will be Obviously, we'll be back on Thursday.
00:35:18
Hopefully with some good news doing the football side of it with with the one giant podcast.
00:35:23
But, um, the really big news for myself on the on the Nets coverage side of things is that starting on Monday morning, Doug Minority and myself are going to officially be taking over locked on nets on the locked on net.
00:35:37
So that is the yeah, that's the one that's been happening in the background for a little bit on that.
00:35:45
Actually, that's a yeah, so that that officially came through.
00:35:50
And that reaction, by the way, Thio say it's people that aren't within this industry or field.
00:35:56
It garners no response whatsoever.
00:35:58
They're like, cool.
00:35:59
But when you say to somebody so that that's that's our big thing.
00:36:01
We're really excited about it, obviously.
00:36:03
So, yeah, coming Monday morning, we're gonna have, ah, one more on our other on another channel with We got on then Monday morning.
00:36:09
That's it.
00:36:10
So that's where we gear off and started off season coverage.
00:36:12
That's my big That's my big news beyond obviously following and checking us out here on so SportsCastr.
00:36:16
So I'm trying not to swear, almost just let off a huge ESP on their, uh, sweet Nice.
00:36:22
Congrats. Uh, cool.
00:36:24
Yeah, that's good. That way.
00:36:25
Have some locked on coverage from people.
00:36:27
I don't know the locked on her previously, who the lock down guys were.
00:36:30
So? So that's good.
00:36:32
That its's friends of mine that you're locked.
00:36:35
Exactly.
00:36:36
You're you're locked in.
00:36:37
Yeah, Z, we'll try to avoid the type of cliches.
00:36:41
Too little too often Early, Kelly, but yeah, but flipping it back over the man you've got, uh, information coming out later today that I wanna watch because I had I had a player.
00:36:53
I won't hold it by exposing the name, but there's a player I'm very curious about.
00:36:58
You've got something good coming this afternoon.
00:36:59
I do? Yeah.
00:37:00
So when 1 p.m. e.
00:37:02
I have a couple of things today, 1 p.
00:37:03
m.
00:37:04
Eastern, standard time.
00:37:05
I'm putting out I'm in my net stuff right now.
00:37:07
I'm putting out a full scale free agency video.
00:37:10
It's gonna be over on YouTube.
00:37:12
It's like, nice edited.
00:37:13
Really. I just gotta put some finishing touches.
00:37:15
So, um, that'll be coming out previewing players that every single position I make a top five list of the guys I would look at the most, um, should be good. I'm excited.
00:37:24
So that will be coming out.
00:37:26
Same with everything that I do.
00:37:27
Matt Brooks, N B A.
00:37:28
Find it on YouTube.
00:37:30
If you can't find it on YouTube, you can definitely find it on Twitter.
00:37:32
I've got a clip picked out for it and everything, So that will be going live at 1 p.m. Eastern Standard time.
00:37:38
Then tonight at 8 p.
00:37:39
m. Eastern Standard time.
00:37:41
I have a basketball on Mawr livestream with Andrew Kelly who does stuff for Peachtree Hoops.
00:37:48
It's like one of the smart like that guy is so unbelievably smart.
00:37:52
I'm ready to feel like, uh, in a basketball.
00:37:55
Uh, no, nothing like, I'm I'm gonna feel like I just can't even compete because this is just get incredibly smart basketball mind We're gonna be talking about Trey Young, John Collins.
00:38:06
A bunch of stuff, just kind of.
00:38:08
There are weird team.
00:38:09
They feel like they really want to make the playoffs.
00:38:10
And I want to talk about how they're going to do that and what that means, because they're obviously very far away from doing that, and I think he'll be the guy to do that.
00:38:20
So, um yeah, that should be fun.
00:38:21
8 p.
00:38:22
m. But stay tuned for these two things.
00:38:24
One PM Video net stuff.
00:38:26
Eight PM Hawks.
00:38:27
I don't know if there's any Hawks fans watching, but if so, this is your day.
00:38:31
E can't wait.
00:38:32
I love the I love those crossovers.
00:38:34
And when you get other people involved because it's just you have the level of information is fantastic.
00:38:38
And when I'm not on the stream, just get to sit back and enjoy it.
00:38:40
So that's my favorite.
00:38:41
My partisan soaking it all in, man, are you guys doing lock down stuff on on? SportsCastr? Uh, that's gonna that Z you know.
00:38:50
Wait a wait and see.
00:38:51
You know eso We'll see how that how that impacts everything but the short of it is is, as of Monday, five days a week.
00:39:00
We'll be doing the coverage, Avi.
00:39:02
And obviously, if you by the way, just as a heads up for anyone that does follow myself on here or follow Matt Brooks on here, the great part about having developed some of these relationships, especially around the Nets world, is now we get to pull on some of these threads.
00:39:14
If I reach this way, pull on some of these Matt Brooks threads and hopefully bring them into what we're gonna be doing over there to give everybody a riel a real wealth and is, you know, in depth coverage in and around that.
00:39:25
So doing the same thing we've been doing all we got.
00:39:27
That's hopefully just doing it on a bigger scale and and having people enjoy it amazing and locked on network is great.
00:39:33
So there's a lot of like, really, there's good people on there.
00:39:35
So I've been trying to get Hollinger's number so far there are.
00:39:38
They're unwilling to give their unwilling to give it out at this stage.
00:39:40
But I feel like, yeah, once they get a sense of what we're about, I feel like Hollinger probably comes to us.
00:39:47
That's That's my That's my low level sense of itself.
00:39:49
Feeling pretty good? Uh, well, there you have it.
00:39:52
A bunch of things happen in the next couple of days.
00:39:54
Stay tuned for all that.
00:39:55
Of course.
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Tune subscribe or follow both our channels.
00:39:58
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00:40:06
10 30 I believe, is my slot.
00:40:08
And then we're back 10.
00:40:09
30 The day after that, Thursday, talking a whole bunch of things.
00:40:12
Feels like a big week.
00:40:14
You, Adam.
00:40:15
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RUMOR: NBA targeting December 1st for start of training camp with season starting Dec. 22

New details have emerged about the start of the 2020-21 NBA campaign, and according to this latest report, the new season might be able to tip off prior Christmas Day. This latest update comes via Marc Stein of the New York Times: Dec. 1, I'm told, has emerged as the likely opening day for NBA […]

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Yeah.
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All right, everybody, let's try this more time.
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We'll come back to Sports Astor News with Matt Brooks and Adam are Brecht.
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We're talking about the n B season that is actually like, seeming like it's gonna happen.
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Adam, how are you doing today? Fantastic, man.
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Listen, things were getting closer faster than we thought they were going to.
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And I'm totally fine, too fast forward and just start up a brand new MBA season right now.
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's been an interesting couple of days.
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The announcement obviously happened.
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This tweet and like, as usual, it's just because I have nowhere has a lot of things happen.
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The N B A.
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This year, um, seems like they've got a couple of things they need to figure out, like I think that there are, and I'll start with this.
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Like the way the timeline set up.
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It's pretty aggressive for like, 30 days.
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I know we technically have like 54 so, but really, it's it's you're losing a whole month because you're not really doing anything until the draft and any of the draft free agency training camp.
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So right now it seems to me a little unrealistic.
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I'll start out with that.
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I I personally, I'm in that camp.
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I I think it's not gonna look like the way it does right at this second for much longer.
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Yeah, you know, this was actually e remember going back during the bubble.
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They have thrown this out around.
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Maybe we'll start on Christmas Day, and that's going to kick off the following season.
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But then it seemed like the n b A collectively took a step back and said right, But depending on when these finals wrap up, it's not a lot of time, and they backed off of it, so it's weird to see them kind of reintroduce it.
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Now I know the N B.
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A is probably looking at the balance off, right, because the later you started, ultimately the MBA school is to get back on track with what their standards schedule is.
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They don't want to get this thing.
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We've talked about that before, so if they want to get back on track, you have to start a little bit sooner and then make the the very tight choice of how many games are we gonna play.
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So even with even when starting on Christmas.
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I think they're still then flirting with 72 games instead of 82.
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If you started a little bit later, maybe it's only 62 that can be ultimately overall. Fine.
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But then you get into revenue and TV deals and all that kind of stuff that you're trying to find and strike the right balance with.
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So I think that this is the MBA.
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Maybe getting back in the books and saying We just may have to dial this thing up a little bit sooner than we anticipate.
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Yeah, no, I mean, it's funny because there's a lot of different, like ways of, like, a lot of different parties in this.
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So they have to get the c b A done, which means they obviously I think this is pretty, pretty clearly pushed by the board of governors or the owners.
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Um, it just it feels kind of like that you like I've been listening to a podcast and stuff this week, and you have people like Low telling that telling, you know, Bobby Marks that he texted a couple of coaches and players and they were kind of like blindsided by it to a degree like, I think that that tells me that this is probably not something that was a, you know, something that has been agreed upon by all parties, Which is why I'm like, I'm still kind of waiting.
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I'm like, Okay, like what? They do need toe, like like you think about the bubble.
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The big thing last time was that big call that I think was set up by Chris Paul on LeBron.
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And, you know, it was it was for the MBA p a kind of explaining the terms and the conditions and like what it was gonna be like in that bubble.
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So I don't feel like we've had that moment yet, and I just I'm still a little weary, like I'm not quite sure when it's gonna feel real yet, because you have all of, like, LeBron's teammates, like give Jared Dudley on Twitter, being like, you know, well, LeBron's going to sit out the first month and Danny Green basically saying, Well, lebron's gonna sit up, you know, it's 20 games or so eso there's a couple of things around that, because I guess first, it's it's like saying, Is this the league softly putting something out there in the, you know, in the media kind of landscape for the players to respond to.
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And that's how you get a soft read on whether or not some superstars will be into it, or whether or not to be pushed back after what was a weird and different, you know, unique cir***stances in the bubble.
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There there's that side of it.
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But then, when you talk about LeBron James the Well, here's the weird thing to May.
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I think it makes total sense that guys like Danny Green or Jared w like there's no way that LeBron is gonna play.
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He's going to get the 1st 20 games.
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And then I also think.
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But LeBron was the most vocal about going down to the bubble and doing the darn thing.
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So, like, I understand the from a 18 inches 18th year LeBron Probably not a big fan of it, but I also look at it and think, Is LEBRON really gonna push back on getting the next season started? Sooner possibly.
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I know there's wear and tear on his body and also it might be just a swell that Hey, if I keep myself in peak condition for a couple of months.
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Here I can roll right into the season and not have the low of the off season and getting back into playing condition.
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And then, by the way, you could do the thing that the MBA doesn't love, which I think would be one of the sacrifices they make if they want to start around Christmas would be to say all those things about load management, that we push back on coaches about not starting their stars.
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Guess what.
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If they're not gonna be fans and a lot of these arenas to start the season, which you don't anticipate, there will be LeBron James can have a couple, you know, he can play five out of the 1st 15 games or play 10 to 12 minutes for the initial start of the season and not have it really impact them as you move through it.
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So I just wonder, Is this directly? Is this a LeBron coming through the players or is this just kind of these guys being like there's no way he do it? Because we did experience maybe what he was going through physically mentally down in the bubble, so the legitimacy of both sides of this is interesting.
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Like I I don't know how either the superstar Steel and I don't know how committed the MBA is to this based on how the responses they get.
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I've just never seen other players speak for LEBRON like this, which kind of tells me that he is probably having these conversations, especially with deadly.
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I think Dudley has become really close with him.
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So eso I do kind of think there's some legitimacy legitimacy behind this.
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Two things with LeBron LeBron.
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Let's be honest.
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LeBron wants to win again like he wants to get in the conversation with Jordan.
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It's it's very clear that that's a major narrative that I think the MBA should be wanting to push.
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I I would push it because I think that it it generates a lot of conversation, and I think that he knows that, like, what are you gonna I mean, you could push the what are you gonna push if he's sitting gains and or they don't win.
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Like what is it? This is it the the ads like I don't is it the Clippers? Is dawn Chicks like you have LeBron in the league.
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I think you need to take advantage of that.
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I think you need to try and push him as much as humanly possible.
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The other thing is LeBron doesn't like to miss games like he knows the value of like people turning on the people turn on the Lakers toe, watch him.
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People turned on the Cavs toe.
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Watch him.
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He understands that he's always leaned into that.
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He's never been a load management guy, so I do think to a degree like they those those statement should be taken seriously from Deadly and Danny Green.
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And not just oh, this is just somebody complaining the complaint like I do think there's something behind that.
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That's fair.
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The funny thing about our interesting thing about we talk about what is the narrative going to be around the league like, unfortunately or, unfortunately, Yanis coming up short likes to say, If anywhere these past couple of years Yanis had won a championship, then I think you could start to shift This mentality over to a narrative of hay is Yannis starting toe cement his legacy and what is t chasing down early in his still relatively quote early in his career.
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Or if you have had Kevin Durant back on the floor already, be interesting to say.
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I think there's gonna be some really nice storylines in this leader that worked last year like Kevin Durant's return of What Is Brooklyn look like? The other thing that I do wonder about beyond those narratives is what is the impact two teams around the league in this truncated timeline.
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So you know, we've talked about the Lakers and what tweaks or they're gonna make the roster behind the scenes or even the Milwaukee Bucks and saying, Well, maybe we're gonna really swap some things out here.
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The Toronto Raptors with lower than Fleet, you know, potential moving pieces, even Miami and who they may pursue.
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Do you think that, like all these teams, if you're if you knew you were good, are you just gonna go? You know what? And I know I already know there's also the next offseason was the bigger one.
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But do you start to look and go? You know what guys like.
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I don't know how much risk we want to take coming in on a short turnaround, maybe bringing in new pieces and losing some level of continuity that we never quite get back by the end of the year.
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You know, the Lakers, you still have your major two players.
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A lot of these teams are going to.
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But even if you're the Lakers, talk about swapping out some of these pieces like, you know, this worked.
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Do you want to run the risk? Like maybe they get Mawr interested in bringing back Rondo just because they know that that piece work for them when it came to the playoff push and what they wanted to accomplish? The Clippers and what they're gonna look to do about semi blowing up that roster behind Kawhi Leonard and PG like it becomes interesting to see how teams maybe push the pause button on what would have been plans if they had a couple more months beyond what could be a you know, a new timeline.
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Yeah, I know.
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I think that's kind of a drag to like I get the idea of trying like I get the money side of this, but I don't I just I don't feel like any of the reactions that we've gotten from from like, because that that's been expressed I think, like certain, like executives and stuff like that in in, like, anonymous executives, as that usually is reported, Um has kind of made that point of like, yeah, we don't really want to shift our roster around since we have, like, we're putting our coaches in a terrible spot.
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Um, being like, hey, you got you have to figure out exactly how your team's gonna work.
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Like, I think that's the like.
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Take the Lakers from last year.
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That's the beauty of they showed up to training camp and after a pretty, like from all accounts And like talking with people, um, that cover the team like a pretty intense training camp where they basically leaned into this like defensive approach.
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Um, they came out of there with, like, a clear prerogative on on day one and just basically said, We're gonna dio we're gonna be the defensive team.
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I know it's LeBron.
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I know it's a d.
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We're actually gonna be like a you know, the 2004 Pistons with like at 7 ft, you know, whatever.
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Like I that stretches the floor and and LeBron James like they basically came in with this idea and I think it's because they had that extra time.
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So, um and I also I me personally like I'm excited If it does start the 22nd, I do get a little worried about injuries, for one, but I'm really more concerned about like, if you went really far in the playoffs, like, does this not kind of disadvantage you and I honestly, like, I'm not like a Lakers fan or anything like that.
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In fact, I'm probably more of the opposite, but I kind of hate that like, yeah, like they're gonna be They don't have a ton of time off and, you know, it just it doesn't feel quite as fair in a lot of ways for them to win and then be like, Oh, we're the most, you know, penalized essentially well, when you look across the finals there with the Miami Heat, right? Like now, by all, by all standards, they over achieved this year in the bubble.
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But you talk about Jimmy Butler dealing with injuries.
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Drag its was dealing with injuries, bandana, bio dealing with injuries.
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And I think if you saw say it starts December 22nd by the end of January, if if any one of those players came down with an injury of of some level of significant injury, you be you.
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You look back and say right because this guy could have used a solid three or four months recovery time.
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So let his body get back and prepare for this level of into tense as opposed to running them in.
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And now, you know, we talked about it on the front end of the bubble.
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It looks it all worked out.
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All felt incredibly legitimate.
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But now going to this next year will be those same questions off.
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Well, did this cost the Miami Heat And they weren't able to get back into a deep playoff run like they wanted to.
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Did it affect the Lakers? And then, you know, maybe fortunate.
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If you're the Clippers, you go.
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Well, maybe it worked out that we got kicked out earlier than we anticipated in the playoffs, or the Milwaukee Bucks might look at that.
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The same way and go wasn't great.
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But also, we come in that much more fresh now to start the season.
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So you know, as you and I think it agreed it is what it is around Cove in 19 and what it's caused the shifts off, and that's still a part of what you're seeing here.
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I think, for the n b A and all sports, we're gonna try to be recovering from a bad financial year.
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You just have to live with it.
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And I guess the other thing is you talk about maybe getting that rest early in the season.
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It's Yeah, What is the balance for the MBA of saying, Yes, we come back early.
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But if x number of teams with big name players like LeBron and like even Jimmy Butler, you know those teams, if they say the 1st 15 20 games, we're gonna kind of put it in neutral and wait to start Thio, ease ourselves into it.
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Does that cost the quality of the product that you're putting out? So is starting starting the season that much earlier? Actually, going to is impactful as they wanted to be.
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If some of the superstar say, Yeah, we'll see you at the end of January.
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We're going to give ourselves extra time to kind of get back into the flow of things.
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Yeah, no, I mean I don't know.
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I think like I think no matter what, you're gonna have a plan that has a lot of questions.
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But like this one just feels like there's a lot of fun like, But I also think Maura questions.
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Yeah, like it just like I don't know.
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So that's it's It's really tricky.
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I and I also get like, there is the report came out.
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They'd be losing, like, $5500 million or something like that. Or maybe it's 50.
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I might have added a zero there regardless.
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Yeah, it's a lot of money that they're losing if they don't.
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If they do even know, like MLK Day.
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So I think that's probably gonna be the biggest thing that pushes this.
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Um, I think I mean, part of it's like we just had such an amazing NBA season and the bubble was awesome, like I I get if you have to sacrifice certain things to try to get the one to get the calendar back on track because I think they've learned just through the ratings, not I don't want to call it a fiasco because every single sports ratings were down, but yeah, almost by a consistent percentage, too, so yeah, it's the case to be made that like it's solely based on what was going on.
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It's not about when you played, but I don't think the n b A is ever gonna wrap their head around that for sure.
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Yeah, I mean and like I think because of that, like it just like, became such a common point of discussion.
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I think they want to get away from that.
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So maybe they feel like they wanted, like if they get back to the schedule that they've been using forever like this, that conversation doesn't come up, which I get, Um, but I mean outside of that, like, I just think they wanna, like, try to, like, bring things back to where they were and and just again, like the money thing of this.
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If they if this season and it's that kind of I don't want to say, it sucks because it's great if they bring the season back.
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But if the season does like hurt a little bit from doing this or there's more injuries, it's It's a weird year and it is like kind of a year where I think in a normal cir***stance to be really fun, like, Look at how many teams air interesting.
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So, you know, you have, like the Clippers that are ready to do just about anything.
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The Bucks last year.
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Yannis the Lakers, obviously, for LeBron reasons.
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The Nets, Who knows? And then there's a couple of other younger teams Denver, the Celtics, all these teams that, like again, it feels kind of like a year where everybody's vying for, you know, top spot.
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And I guess right now would be the Lakers.
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But I just I don't wanna like selfishly, I don't want to sacrifice.
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I don't wanna lose any parts of that because of, you know, a free agency period where teams like they could be less aggressive or ah, Lakers team that looks fatigued and tired throughout the year.
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It never really gets rest or anything like that.
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Um, I don't know.
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I just like it's tough.
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It's gonna be an opportunity cost either way.
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Yeah, and so there's something about the scheduling that I was interested in because it's it's a point that I have been bringing up previously when it comes Thio travel on player fatigue.
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But what I will say on the front end is what could be nice for the MBA.
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If you started it on the 22nd of December, you could get the excitement off.
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Kevin Durant, Kyrie, Irving.
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Right.
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So Kevin Durant, coming back from a nice long vacation, hopefully healthy so they could be exciting toe watch that developed and they could be getting a lot of national TV games.
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You got the Golden State Warriors and you have Steph Curry, and you have, you know, and you have Clay Thompson coming back.
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So they could be an exciting story line early in the season.
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And teams that even if they're a little bit out of sync because they haven't played together in a while because of those injuries, could still, but they're gonna be pushing it right.
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They're gonna be finding their rhythm so you could find some exciting storylines and then you probably but another team that unfortunately like the Dallas Mavericks, they suffer in.
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This is well because you have poor Zynga's who got surgery.
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You also have Luke who's with his own injuries coming out of the bubble.
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So there's a lot of fatigue there, but hopefully you get something small ones.
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A couple other ones quickly that I think are unfortunate.
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Or you have pelicans put bringing in a new coach that could potentially hurt them because they may not be able to swap out some pieces like they want to.
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If you're the Brooklyn Nets and you're looking at Holiday, maybe that transaction doesn't happen because there's just not enough time.
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Just sort out those details.
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Ah, Coach like Billy Donovan moving over to Chicago.
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That's exciting.
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They may want to rebuild themselves, and that becomes harder to do on the fly.
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So there's obviously both sides of the coin here and probably trends more negative than positive.
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So that's the concern that I have the interesting thing when it comes to the schedule and travel that I've always brought up.
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Players have talked about for years and years how it's brutal to get on a plane and travel somewhere and play back to back.
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You know, flights impact the body in terms of physical health and well being.
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And I think in this truncated season they've thrown out this idea of starting to do weekend Siris in places where you automatically say, if you're going to Chicago, you're gonna play them two games there.
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There's no one and done and fly back.
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That's something that if in the long term I think it makes sense for the N B A and they should have been doing it already is introduced like baseball.
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You get there on a Thursday night and you play three games over the course of a weekend.
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You leave on a Monday and it actually would create a little bit more excitement cause you could start to get a little chippy.
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Some of those in game matchups would start to get pretty exciting over for three games in a short season.
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In a shortened season, there may be only 72 or truncated like this.
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That could also help mitigate the fatigue that some of these teams are suffering from.
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If you go ahead and say, Hey, we have a chance here to maybe reduce your travel by 30 to 35% that may help offset and that could be something that could go to the players with and say, Hey, I understand it.
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This isn't great to month turnaround, but over the course of the year you should be able to get an extra rest in this process and, you know, maybe that moves the needle for them with the players, especially when you talk about again getting the money back on track, which is also important to the players to, you know, more than other leagues.
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The players for the MBA are pretty heavily invested in the quality of the league because it does directly impact them, unlike NFL or MLB.
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Yeah, no, I think the like.
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The serious thing is also interesting because, like, I wonder if teams like you start Thio, it's not gonna feel like playoff basketball.
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Obviously, it's pretty hard to replicate that.
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But by nature of playing a certain team multiple times in a couple of days, I do feel like, Yeah, I mean, look, you're playing basketball like it z gonna be fresh in your memory.
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It will probably be in your short term memory of what certain players dio.
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And just in playing that I think you're even if you're not consciously thinking about it.
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I do think you're going to sort of learn like Okay, this person likes to go, uh, cross right and go to their left hand and try to draw contact by driving into me so whatever, like do little things like that.
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So I would I would be I mean, I'd be in favor of it because I think the bubble showed us that you give players you cut down the travel time.
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The basketball is better, like there's just no way to look.
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And that's the biggest take away.
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I think from this bubble, we probably never really would have figured that out if it hadn't been for this bubble.
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And I think that's something that is going to be implemented going forward.
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So that's awesome.
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Um, I do also wonder like if you are now doing this, where you're playing in market, you're playing the same teams.
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Uh, I I actually I wonder if that helps the regular season product, not just in terms of, like, rest, but, like, again, like just that, that feeling of seeing the same guys every other night or something like that.
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I just I like that a lot.
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I like I just I like I've always felt like that was an obvious move for them Well, and think about it, too.
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So So you introduce these, you know, even if it's a minimum of two games.
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Then again, you want to rest some guys. Well, guess what.
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If you're coming to Brooklyn, LeBron, you can play one out of those two games still satisfied being in front of the Brooklyn market, the Brooklyn fan base or and it really that's a bad example.
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It should be.
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You know, the Hornets, when you go there where that's really important for the Hornets for their revenue toe, have LeBron on the court okay, especially if you got it to a three game Siri's kind of set up, which is the extreme version of it, but even over to if you give us one, then it's OK that you take off the next one and you can go ahead and balance that out if you're the Lakers, and then you can still build in those rest days while satisfying the fan base and the N B A.
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In terms off, we need you on the court in these other cities, so that's the additional benefit that that you could find that common ground for these teams.
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And I think you're right chip *****, you know, or or picking up on things right from a product standpoint, just like in a seven game Siri's how you have coaches adjust to the other team and the game plan they bring in if you are.
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I don't want to use some of the high level guys.
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But even if you're if you're Kyrie Irving and you're getting picked up in a weird matchup in LeBron's grabbing you what you learn in Game one to Game two to Game three of the weekend, Siri's would be really exciting to see what type of offensive moves this Kyrie try to bring at a bigger LeBron James.
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How does LeBron James try to take on Kevin Durant? Well, he wants to move down the lane and over a couple of games serious, just like in the playoffs.
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You would see those adjustment and you would see them on basically, you know, a game to game quote unquote right.
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Siri's to Siri's.
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In this season, you would get to see these player adjustments as well, so I think it would improve the product improved because the travels mitigated so the players are healthier and fresher.
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And that's great.
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And also the in game matchups and adjustments would look different, not unlike in baseball, when you see it from new picture comes in and you go, OK, what? The stats tell me about this guy.
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You could have one or two games sample sizes each each season and say, Okay, I see.
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When he goes left, he's even more likely to kick it out.
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Now you already know that stuff in general, but how your defense forces his adjustments would be different than just hey, over the course of his career, we know Kyrie likes to go left, likes to go right, likes to pull up here in the mid range on a particular set.
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But what did it look like from Game one? And how can we adjust a game, too? The one thing I think I will miss a little bit with the old way is that you kind of like you see the growth of certain teams throughout the year.
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So, like the Lakers last year, they lost to the books.
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I think early, I believe, by a considerable margin.
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I think it was in December, right around February, when the season, really, you know, gets put on hold.
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They beat the Clippers and then they beat the Bucks.
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It was like this big, pivotal moment.
00:23:00
So in a way, that kind of e don't know it.
00:23:04
It's a shame to lose out on that to a degree.
00:23:07
But it also does make for like, more like it really is.
00:23:10
Like if you play, let's say the Lakers play the Clippers around like December and they try to do that so that, you know, you have their most watched games.
00:23:16
Well, then they probably don't play each other.
00:23:17
Really, until I don't know the playoffs like that's kind of interesting.
00:23:22
On the flip side, it's like, Oh, these teams have not played each other in four months.
00:23:26
We have no idea that, you know, think about like those teams are probably gonna be active in the buyout market.
00:23:31
It's like, Yeah, these teams played each other.
00:23:33
But, you know, whatever the Lakers, I don't know.
00:23:36
I I can't even find a buyout guide.
00:23:38
Yeah, the Lakers didn't have Gordon Hayward like, Well, so the way that it hurt.
00:23:44
I mean, Major league baseball has all kinds of issues, but the way that it hurts Major League baseball and to your point about may be diminishing the regular season games, right? Well, it's 100 182.
00:23:52
Game 162 game season.
00:23:53
Whatever baseball does, I'm a big baseball fan.
00:23:56
Uh, you know, it's it's it's a marathon, not a sprint.
00:24:00
That's always that how they refer to it.
00:24:01
So you see in a weekend Siri's how things can bubble up a little bit, especially based on what team you play.
00:24:07
But in the long run, right, you're 25 games into the season, your four games below 500 they're always saying, Well, you know, it's a marathon, not a sprint will round ourselves into form.
00:24:17
You could get a little bit of that into the MBA, to your point, you know, taking away some of the some of the punch in some of these games.
00:24:22
But then, by doing this, Siri's If if you schedule it outright, you could give give a 10 game run time and then get the Clippers Lakers relatively early season match up.
00:24:33
And maybe they don't see each other again until just before the playoffs.
00:24:36
And you know you can try to match up those really big ones where, especially then, from a standing standpoint in the Western Conference, maybe even more so where things were really, really tight in the even almost top to bottom, but 2 to 8 or even 3 to 8 or really, really tight.
00:24:51
If you line this up right, you could end up teams playing three games, Siri's.
00:24:54
And if you take two out of three, you're talking about jumping yourself from the sixth seed to the four seed and switching these matchups.
00:25:01
And those are things that we do know down the stretch of the NBA seasons.
00:25:04
Typically, Ah, lot of those games don't matter.
00:25:06
By the back end of it, you're resting guys.
00:25:08
You're still going to see that with the top seeds.
00:25:10
But you couldn't make things more interesting for a handful of those games.
00:25:13
So there's all these given takes and, uh, let's listen.
00:25:17
I'm all for whatever gets the product back on the court sooner, But I also want within reason, whatever the best, the best version is going to be.
00:25:25
So you have to take into account what superstars like LeBron are going to be for or against, because if you don't have him for 30 games this season, your obvious, it doesn't matter.
00:25:33
It doesn't matter what else you Dio the product's gonna be diminished.
00:25:36
Yeah, I know the LeBron thing is really key.
00:25:38
I think like that is just like that's gonna be the big that's gonna move a lot of things around.
00:25:43
Like if he's not, if they don't have the LeBron by and I don't know what they do I mean, I e guess they just It'll be interesting.
00:25:50
I haven't seen the league and LeBron not work hand in hand.
00:25:54
And, like I feel like his entire career, I just e remember a time.
00:25:58
Um, it's funny, like in talking about this.
00:26:00
It's kind of funny how, like divisions are suddenly a little bit important again.
00:26:05
So, like if you're the King's like, you have to go through Phoenix, the Lakers, the Clippers, the Warriors? Yeah, I think that's everything.
00:26:13
So that that that almost was like a little bit of an unfair a situation where if you're another, I don't know what what's another one like the art? It's I believe there's a horse I don't even know anymore.
00:26:24
So I believe it's the Hornets.
00:26:26
The the Heat, the magic, the Hawks maybe.
00:26:31
And then is there one more? I'm forgetting one.
00:26:34
I'm gonna put you get them both.
00:26:38
Where did they dio? I used to know that I was a kid.
00:26:41
Yeah, the Southeast is made up of Miami.
00:26:45
Got Miami, Orlando Charlot, Washington and the Atlanta Hawks.
00:26:49
That is, that makes up the Southeast God, while the Chicago Bulls find themselves in the the Milwaukee, Indiana, Detroit and Cleveland Club.
00:27:01
Also not like that.
00:27:02
So that that's the part.
00:27:04
Also, that I'm like.
00:27:05
Okay, so you play those teams Mawr and like that's just like that's just extra winds on your schedule.
00:27:12
So they have to figure out how to do that.
00:27:14
Maybe.
00:27:15
I mean, I'm sure they're going to structure it where, like if you haven't easier market, then you actually traveled to the really hard market and they structure it like that.
00:27:22
But again, like already, making a schedule is already hard enough.
00:27:24
Like now, I think it is a little bit trickier because you have ones that are just inherently easier and ones that air inherently a little bit tougher.
00:27:31
Well, when you think about, though, though, I suppose the distance between, say, Boston and Toronto is obviously less than it is from the other areas.
00:27:38
But when you talk about the Atlantic Division, where it's Boston, Philadelphia, essentially New York and New York, right? Brooklyn in New York.
00:27:44
Toronto would find itself on the outside looking in on this in terms of travel, because you'd be saying, Well, you're in the same division.
00:27:51
You're gonna play these guys more like right, But we're in Toronto.
00:27:53
Everyone understand, Like, you know.
00:27:55
So how? How how you structure those things would certainly be interesting, too.
00:27:58
But your point, your point makes sense.
00:28:00
It's maybe you get the the tougher Western coat West Coast swing if you're in one of these weaker divisions and then also, while you may not love it, that's the reality, right? I mean, I'm a giant sky, and right now the NFC East is an absolute disaster.
00:28:13
And you know, that probably shakes out in the end anyway, because okay, so you're in, you're in a bad division and one good team beats him up on everybody else.
00:28:21
But if you're not that good, you lose in the first round of the playoffs.
00:28:23
So you know, even the accomplishment of winning that division of having the weaker schedule usually plays itself out.
00:28:28
By the time you get to the playoffs, so I actually wouldn't hate.
00:28:32
It's weird because I'm really of two minds.
00:28:33
I'm a abolish all divisions, including, you know, including including the Western and Eastern Conference E.
00:28:39
That's what I love and that that's where I land like 99% of the way.
00:28:45
But then when you when you just said division, I was like, Right, there's divisions in basketball.
00:28:49
My mind does go to that of being like Boy, you could make it more exciting if you actually made the divisional basketball even more important now in terms of quality and how it all flushes out come playoff time, that that would be debatable.
00:29:01
But it would be interesting to think about it in that way now that they have, you have balanced it out in terms of number of teams.
00:29:08
You know? Listen what you know, what's the percentage you would wanna put on? A 35% of your schedule gets played in division, and then you still get that other 65 to balance out in terms of the competitive, you know where these teams really rank, but it would be interesting if you put some more on there because, as you can tell, Matt and I barely knew what the names of divisions were let alone who was in them.
00:29:27
So either either get rid of them or make them more important.
00:29:30
You got to go one way or the other right now, because otherwise it's just this weird formality.
00:29:34
For what? When you look, I was gonna use one of the worst references possible when you look in the paper to check the standings.
00:29:40
This is where things is, where I'm at right now.
00:29:42
But, you know, like when you look at the standings, you don't think about Atlantic Division.
00:29:44
Oh, my God, Look at the Atlantic Division.
00:29:46
It's sure is tight this year, you know, you're just looking at okay, what's the record? Where their fourth seat? Okay, so, you know, go full blown and just rank these teams out and let it and let it go that way.
00:29:55
And then a team like the Kings would if they're better than six of the Eastern Conference playoff teams, you'll get in there.
00:30:03
You'll make your way into the playoffs, as opposed to sitting.
00:30:05
There is an 11th or 12th seed in the West.
00:30:08
Yeah, I do feel like it puts the West teams like even Maura to disadvantage.
00:30:11
Like certain West teams.
00:30:12
I think like it.
00:30:13
Just like even if Phoenix suffers right, you're a young, exciting team and you're gonna have to fight to get into the to make that final playoff spot.
00:30:21
You could be a six seed in the Eastern Conference.
00:30:24
Yep. Um, no.
00:30:26
And it's funny, like we have all these questions about this, and it's like they don't have a C B a done, which is like like a problem like they like.
00:30:33
I don't know how we're supposed to do any of this.
00:30:35
We can't have a draft till the CBS done.
00:30:36
We can't have free agency, told CBS.
00:30:38
Done can't have started the season till the CBS done.
00:30:40
So you have all these questions, and like all these little things that they need to figure out, I'm sure they've already started this.
00:30:45
Not like they're like, Oh, here we are like, you know, whatever what they is right now.
00:30:49
It's October 27th, and they need Thio like we don't know what what we're doing.
00:30:56
It's like, No, they know they have that idea, but I do think like to a degree.
00:31:00
None of again executives haven't seen a c b A.
00:31:03
Players need to know what a c b A.
00:31:05
As I saw a report came out yesterday, I think the key Smith, who put this out that the players that are like, kind of on the fringes they're losing opportunities overseas because some of those more higher paying, um, positions are essentially they're gonna run out of time on those.
00:31:23
So the n B A needs to like, figure it out like they need to, like, figure it out this week.
00:31:28
It's just it's a lot of It's a lot of big things that they need to figure out, especially if they're doing this in market things like the nice part about the bubble.
00:31:35
You gotta figure out the testing.
00:31:36
That's hard.
00:31:38
That's really hard.
00:31:39
But you once you figure that part out, and that's like, no easy task, obviously like s.
00:31:43
So they're like the only they're the only organization in the entire country that feels like they figure it out.
00:31:48
But, um, but like the, you know, to a degree like, once you get that done like, I guess everything else is like they you know we're on the bubble, you have hotels and, like you just play like this is different because you have to figure out markets and figure out safety.
00:32:03
Still like it is, it's just a lot of different things.
00:32:06
And, you know, they had to figure out a C B a.
00:32:08
At least the C B A was figured out by the like before they even got into the bubble.
00:32:12
So that's what I'm gonna say.
00:32:13
So the one footnote is is like the c b A.
00:32:15
And you've already heard the rumors that, like players and teams and agents, there's a lot of deals kind of getting set in place.
00:32:22
And then So you'll you'll know what's been going on in the MBA when they finally come out with these things and they say the market is now open and you just hear the 20 deals get done within the 1st 12 hours.
00:32:32
It means that they've been taking care of this stuff, and I would assume the league is probably gonna look the other way and a lot of that and they do in general.
00:32:38
But even more so this year because you understand the short timeframe.
00:32:41
Um But I I The other thing that I wonder about is you just said it, man.
00:32:49
It was 106 days.
00:32:51
If you went wire to wire, if you were the the heat or the Lakers in the bubble, you're gonna be asking again.
00:32:58
You're gonna start this lead up two months later and there's gonna be some level of bubbling here required by teams, whether it is in the small, you know, small of just Hey, when you travel to these places, it's gonna be three or four days.
00:33:09
You'll stay in that market.
00:33:10
You'll play them a couple times, etcetera.
00:33:12
You're still gonna be asking something of these players again and that specifically to LeBron James, or to buy any of those guys on those two teams, or even the ones that in the Western Conference files as well.
00:33:21
You know, you're saying, Hey, and now let's kick this thing off.
00:33:25
And also would you mind not really traveling or going out or seeing people too much? Because it will, just like we've seen in the NFL.
00:33:32
We saw small cases when MLB was getting under way.
00:33:34
It's gonna impact the sport and the season and Maybe I wonder if the MBA is thinking about that in terms of starting sooner and saying We probably anticipate having some setbacks and having to shuffle the schedule.
00:33:47
So getting things kicked off quicker means we'll have a little bit of wiggle room throughout the year to say We gotta cancel this game.
00:33:53
We need to move that one.
00:33:54
This team needs to shut it down for maybe a week, so there's a lot of moving parts there.
00:33:58
But you are asking a lot of your employee base to say, Let's do this thing again Not as restricted as we were in Orlando, but still still putting Cem.
00:34:07
You know, that's a heavy ask man.
00:34:09
It's a heavy ass to tell everybody like, Listen, you're gonna have to Onley see, You're just be with your families beyond the road and that's it.
00:34:16
Now the highest level athletes, the guy that the guys that are really honed in like LeBron James, I assume that's mostly what he does during the year anyway.
00:34:23
But even just going out to dinners, you know, and those little socializing and those little get away opportunities, those are gonna go away.
00:34:28
They already taking away the All Star break things like that.
00:34:31
So you know, there's still a lot of questions.
00:34:34
Is the best way that I can frame.
00:34:35
There's still a ton of questions here.
00:34:36
And until the n b a kind of pushes thes things out, you HearMe or details and the players are on board with it.
00:34:41
I have no way toe mentally commit to December 22nd.
00:34:45
I'm going to see MBA games.
00:34:46
Well, I do feel like we're gonna get news in the next couple of days.
00:34:50
I I think we can.
00:34:51
We can leave it on that.
00:34:52
I do think that we'll be back.
00:34:53
We'll be doing discussion about this.
00:34:55
I you know, it was a big leak.
00:34:56
Day yesterday, Mondays, Fridays Tend to be just seems like all the days just for for any scheduling stuff.
00:35:03
That seems to be when the stuff comes out.
00:35:05
So we'll have a better idea.
00:35:06
Maybe we get lucky on our Thursday show.
00:35:08
We have some stuff there.
00:35:10
Um, I wanted to let you plug away anything you have going on this week.
00:35:13
Anything you got on your channel? Um, yeah.
00:35:16
Listen, we will be Obviously, we'll be back on Thursday.
00:35:18
Hopefully with some good news doing the football side of it with with the one giant podcast.
00:35:23
But, um, the really big news for myself on the on the Nets coverage side of things is that starting on Monday morning, Doug Minority and myself are going to officially be taking over locked on nets on the locked on net.
00:35:37
So that is the yeah, that's the one that's been happening in the background for a little bit on that.
00:35:45
Actually, that's a yeah, so that that officially came through.
00:35:50
And that reaction, by the way, Thio say it's people that aren't within this industry or field.
00:35:56
It garners no response whatsoever.
00:35:58
They're like, cool.
00:35:59
But when you say to somebody so that that's that's our big thing.
00:36:01
We're really excited about it, obviously.
00:36:03
So, yeah, coming Monday morning, we're gonna have, ah, one more on our other on another channel with We got on then Monday morning.
00:36:09
That's it.
00:36:10
So that's where we gear off and started off season coverage.
00:36:12
That's my big That's my big news beyond obviously following and checking us out here on so SportsCastr.
00:36:16
So I'm trying not to swear, almost just let off a huge ESP on their, uh, sweet Nice.
00:36:22
Congrats. Uh, cool.
00:36:24
Yeah, that's good. That way.
00:36:25
Have some locked on coverage from people.
00:36:27
I don't know the locked on her previously, who the lock down guys were.
00:36:30
So? So that's good.
00:36:32
That its's friends of mine that you're locked.
00:36:35
Exactly.
00:36:36
You're you're locked in.
00:36:37
Yeah, Z, we'll try to avoid the type of cliches.
00:36:41
Too little too often Early, Kelly, but yeah, but flipping it back over the man you've got, uh, information coming out later today that I wanna watch because I had I had a player.
00:36:53
I won't hold it by exposing the name, but there's a player I'm very curious about.
00:36:58
You've got something good coming this afternoon.
00:36:59
I do? Yeah.
00:37:00
So when 1 p.m. e.
00:37:02
I have a couple of things today, 1 p.
00:37:03
m.
00:37:04
Eastern, standard time.
00:37:05
I'm putting out I'm in my net stuff right now.
00:37:07
I'm putting out a full scale free agency video.
00:37:10
It's gonna be over on YouTube.
00:37:12
It's like, nice edited.
00:37:13
Really. I just gotta put some finishing touches.
00:37:15
So, um, that'll be coming out previewing players that every single position I make a top five list of the guys I would look at the most, um, should be good. I'm excited.
00:37:24
So that will be coming out.
00:37:26
Same with everything that I do.
00:37:27
Matt Brooks, N B A.
00:37:28
Find it on YouTube.
00:37:30
If you can't find it on YouTube, you can definitely find it on Twitter.
00:37:32
I've got a clip picked out for it and everything, So that will be going live at 1 p.m. Eastern Standard time.
00:37:38
Then tonight at 8 p.
00:37:39
m. Eastern Standard time.
00:37:41
I have a basketball on Mawr livestream with Andrew Kelly who does stuff for Peachtree Hoops.
00:37:48
It's like one of the smart like that guy is so unbelievably smart.
00:37:52
I'm ready to feel like, uh, in a basketball.
00:37:55
Uh, no, nothing like, I'm I'm gonna feel like I just can't even compete because this is just get incredibly smart basketball mind We're gonna be talking about Trey Young, John Collins.
00:38:06
A bunch of stuff, just kind of.
00:38:08
There are weird team.
00:38:09
They feel like they really want to make the playoffs.
00:38:10
And I want to talk about how they're going to do that and what that means, because they're obviously very far away from doing that, and I think he'll be the guy to do that.
00:38:20
So, um yeah, that should be fun.
00:38:21
8 p.
00:38:22
m. But stay tuned for these two things.
00:38:24
One PM Video net stuff.
00:38:26
Eight PM Hawks.
00:38:27
I don't know if there's any Hawks fans watching, but if so, this is your day.
00:38:31
E can't wait.
00:38:32
I love the I love those crossovers.
00:38:34
And when you get other people involved because it's just you have the level of information is fantastic.
00:38:38
And when I'm not on the stream, just get to sit back and enjoy it.
00:38:40
So that's my favorite.
00:38:41
My partisan soaking it all in, man, are you guys doing lock down stuff on on? SportsCastr? Uh, that's gonna that Z you know.
00:38:50
Wait a wait and see.
00:38:51
You know eso We'll see how that how that impacts everything but the short of it is is, as of Monday, five days a week.
00:39:00
We'll be doing the coverage, Avi.
00:39:02
And obviously, if you by the way, just as a heads up for anyone that does follow myself on here or follow Matt Brooks on here, the great part about having developed some of these relationships, especially around the Nets world, is now we get to pull on some of these threads.
00:39:14
If I reach this way, pull on some of these Matt Brooks threads and hopefully bring them into what we're gonna be doing over there to give everybody a riel a real wealth and is, you know, in depth coverage in and around that.
00:39:25
So doing the same thing we've been doing all we got.
00:39:27
That's hopefully just doing it on a bigger scale and and having people enjoy it amazing and locked on network is great.
00:39:33
So there's a lot of like, really, there's good people on there.
00:39:35
So I've been trying to get Hollinger's number so far there are.
00:39:38
They're unwilling to give their unwilling to give it out at this stage.
00:39:40
But I feel like, yeah, once they get a sense of what we're about, I feel like Hollinger probably comes to us.
00:39:47
That's That's my That's my low level sense of itself.
00:39:49
Feeling pretty good? Uh, well, there you have it.
00:39:52
A bunch of things happen in the next couple of days.
00:39:54
Stay tuned for all that.
00:39:55
Of course.
00:39:56
Tune subscribe or follow both our channels.
00:39:58
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Keith McPherson falls to me on wrestle whole crew, follow everybody, and yeah, I'll be back tomorrow.
00:40:06
10 30 I believe, is my slot.
00:40:08
And then we're back 10.
00:40:09
30 The day after that, Thursday, talking a whole bunch of things.
00:40:12
Feels like a big week.
00:40:14
You, Adam.
00:40:15
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