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with that.
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We welcome you back once again.
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This protester News N b A where I'm Adam arm break.
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That's Keith McPherson.
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And we're back on a Monday talking plenty of MBA off season How you survive in the morning, Keith, I know you came down with something.
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We're not sure what It was your on the mend.
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Now? Yeah, I'm surviving.
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I have a little bit of a head cold.
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I've had the whole weekend.
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I've been doing stream the whole weekend, so I'm all right.
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And, you know, the weather is changing a little bit.
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We had a day where it was, like, 75 degrees a couple days ago.
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Then it got colder again, and I don't know, it's the last week of October were in the fall and, uh, just pushing through the sports had a late night last night watching the Cardinals come back to win it in overtime.
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That was crazy.
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And then also the Dodgers finishing off the res 42 in Game five of the world's Siri's.
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But here we are, Monday morning, talking MBA, talking some basketball.
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And you better believe it, man, I got this number.
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It's the MBA fall which is the MBA summer.
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Well, that's I have.
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No, I have no horse in the race for the world Siri's, but I so badly want to see that stolen base at home plate happen just for the sake of, like first time, however long it's been, if you know the World Series stolen base at home.
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So I had that piqued my interest.
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Anyway, when we talk about the n B A and their offseason, actually a little bit of rumor coming out now they may ramp up and try to start the new MBA season, where they had first speculated it in around Christmas Day.
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So this could be a lot shorter off season, and it could be a lot quicker that were back in action.
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So any of these moves the team's wanna make, actually kind of becomes really important to get it done.
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Maybe a little bit sooner, because you could be looking at only having a couple of months here to acclimate and get guys onto your roster and see how they fit in.
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So with that, of course, you can't get through you.
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Just when you thought that this name was out of the MBA circuits and so far gone playing over in China this past season.
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Jeremy Lin.
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His name resurfaces around N B.
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A conversations he had said to think of a few weeks ago that he wanted to try to make a return to the N B A at some point.
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And now there's a rumor that the Golden State Warriors might be interested in him in a backup point guard role.
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Take it away.
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What are your thoughts on Jeremy Lin? What are your thoughts specifically with him? If it were to be on a championship caliber team like the Warriors? Jeremy Lin, a guy that, uh, you know, got Linsanity going in New York.
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That's his most famous fame to claim is most famous run.
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And then the guy got, you know, the cold shoulder from the league.
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He yeah, teared up last year.
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Last summer, there was a so like, something he did in Taiwan or somewhere he was speaking.
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I think it might have been like a church or something.
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And he broke down talking about his experience in the MBA, his journey in the MBA, which has been a while, one which is the most unique story in its own.
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For a guy like Jeremy Lin, a Chinese American, uh, you know, a guy that went to Harvard? Um, there's so many little things about Jeremy Lin that make his story unique, but for him to be emotionally compromised, thinking about that off season last season where he didn't get any offers because he had hurt his knee and he was playing with the Raptors and he didn't play too well before he hurt his knee.
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I read somewhere that he missed like 17 shots in a row, three point shots in a row, playing for the Raptors before he got hurt.
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So nothing was good for Jeremy Lin on the court.
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And then once you have an injury, not too many people are knocking on your door.
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But fast forward now.
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Ah, whole summer has passed, and now we're in the MBA fall.
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There's some interest.
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And, of course, the all mighty warriors air looking the come back together and create Ultron and be right on top of the West.
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And what do they need? They could use Ah, veteran point guard in Jeremy Lin and off course he's interested, I think, for his brand that'd be awesome for him to be in the Bay Area and then for him to come back to the n b A.
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And not have to be the number 1234 options, uh, that be also for him, the land with Golden State.
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But who says it gets done? It might not.
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There might be some other people interested in his services, oddly enough, because I didn't I didn't know this, but go back and I mean, we knew that.
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He said a certain point.
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Jeremy Lin started bouncing around.
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So in, you know, reverse order.
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Toronto, Atlanta, Brooklyn.
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There for a couple of seasons on over the same stretch, but in two different stents.
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The Charlotte Hornets, the L A Lakers, the Houston Rockets, the New York Knicks for Linsanity and then 12,011.
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He was on the Golden State Warriors for 20 for 29 games that he appeared in their averaging just 10 minutes.
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So back where it all began in some form or fashion here, potentially for Jeremy Lin.
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But it's interesting when we were preparing to come on this morning, this is where it took my mind.
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So Jeremy Lin is your number one now? Obviously not.
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But even back in Linsanity times, as good as that was, there was still this this this kind of thought of right.
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But even this isn't great for your team if you're trying to construct a real competitive winning basketball team, so when then you look at the point guard position, You look around the league right now, you're looking free agency.
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There's a lot of veteran guys out there right now.
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Are there because there's a couple of names that jumped out at me and one specifically that I think should be, ah, highly valued player for a championship caliber team.
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Are there any names that jump out off you? Like the van fleets? We know that that that's not a backup guy.
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That's a starting role player.
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Even Rajon Rondo has asserted himself is maybe being ableto collect one more big paycheck.
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Are there any names that you're really interested? Regardless of where you think they're gonna go? Just man, wherever this player goes, coming off the bench is going to be a significant boost for a team like the Lakers.
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Like the Clippers, even the Golden State Warriors and do you think before you get to that? Do you think that Jeremy Lin really would move the needle just from, ah, supplemental depth perspective for Golden State? Or is that almost boy someone who's been in the N.
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B A.
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The last couple of seasons is probably a better route for them.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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There's a lot to be seen with.
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Jeremy Lin like, Is he slower after his knee injury? It does he still have it? Can he shoot? Can he knock down threes? Is he still quick and shifty? That was his old thing.
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He was, You know, he was kind of like undersized, but not small.
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Uh, shifty enough could distribute the ball, make plays, make open shots.
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I think it depends because, you know, I think the Golden State Warriors are a team with veterans that they want a veteran guy and a high I Q guy.
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And maybe they saw something in his style of play that they think would fit well with Steph, Clay and Draymond.
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But there are other guys out there.
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Obviously, Fred Vanvleet is the number one name.
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Of course, the Knicks fans out there think he's coming to New York.
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I don't think he's coming to New York.
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I think Toronto locks him up.
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I think you know he's part of that championship run, that they had that team that they currently have, that they think it's still championship caliber if you let.
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So I go in 2019 and then you let Fred go in 2020 that team.
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You might as well start breaking that team apart.
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You might as well start, you know, build rebuilding.
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Um, and if we're talking about looking for guys and teams rebuilding teams, moving guys around, another name is Zach Lavine.
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A lot of people have been talking about him.
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Even, you know, during the season, people were talking about Zach Lavine.
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I'm very interested to see where he goes.
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Like, well, he land with the Lakers.
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Some people were saying, Even some people, you know, throw the Nets in because the Nets need a third star.
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That's, uh, don't have enough to do it.
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They gotta get one Mawr superstar.
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But I don't think he lands in Brooklyn.
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Who else is out there right now? Eso It's like, you know the love in one's interesting.
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I think like coming out of coming out of Chicago.
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It feels like whatever his Valley like his value, has just been dropping over the course of his career there and again, a product of the environment that coaching everything else.
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So he feels like a guy that he could end up somewhere else and has to kind of like rebuild what he is a player and rebuild what it looks like to be a contributor on a winning team is a book, because again, this is that, not a point guard, but it's always the easy reference.
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The Kevin Love in Minnesota was always the that's always the reference point off.
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Ah, guy on a bad team.
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Looking really good doesn't mean that you just take those stat lines in that production and move it over a championship team because there's more mouths to feed on the roster.
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So we'll be becomes interesting.
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I will say, and I didn't wanna It'll jump ahead here, but Chris done, who is also there in Chicago.
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He's the guy.
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He's actually the name and we can run through some of the other veteran ones, but to me, ah, guy who comes in with a rapture rating of plus 4.
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1 on the defensive side of the ball gives you +74 and 3.
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5 per game like he's the perfect.
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If you have offensive weapons, we say Brooklyn, like if you're Brooklyn, what I want is a guy that can come in and just pick up the other guy's best player.
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Be a nice defensive lock down guy and then listen.
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Shot 44% from the field.
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So he's not a slouch.
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There is not a three point shooter, so I think 25% on this past season.
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But that's what you need, right? A role player like that and he could plug in now. Maybe not.
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So you mentioned Golden State.
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I don't know it had.
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They're looking for just firepower purely first, and they're worried about all these other things secondary, because you do have Clay Thompson.
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There's a lock down defender, and obviously, Draymond Green can focus on that end of the court.
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But that's a 26 year old player that you could plug into a lot of different rosters and feel pretty excited about getting, you know, 15 20 minutes from coming off the bench.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I wasn't even thinking about him.
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He's definitely solid.
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And then, you know, you just ran through his numbers and like you're saying, it comes down to fits.
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It comes down the needs.
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And it also comes down to, you know, structure like these guys that are playing in these smaller markets or these teams without stars.
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Their numbers are skewed.
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Their numbers air different.
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When they land in a big market or with other talent or star players.
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The game completely changes, especially in the MBA.
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Like you can't You can't plug and play players that easily in the MBA because there's different schemes, different systems, different styles of play.
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Um, you know, it's gotta be a match.
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It's gotta be a match where, you know, Okay, this guy's style is the type of style that we wanna put with a Steph Clay, a Draymond.
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I'm very interested to see how the MBA shuffles this year.
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You know, like you spoke of with the restart being now.
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Well, everyone was saying, Oh, MLK day.
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You know, that'd be great for Martin Luther King Day to be the restart.
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Uh, you know, historically, the NBA has played on Martin Luther King Day.
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But I think now they're realizing with money and with the number of games that they want to get in there, like now we might have to accelerate this to Christmas Day and get it in there.
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Ah, month before so that we could try and get.
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I think I saw 72 games is the target they're trying to hit.
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What I was gonna say was so we could sidetrack here for a second that started.
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It is predicated on.
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So I assume the discussions they're having with LeBron James and the superstars and the Players Association is saying, Listen, if we start later were we still need to get at least they're saying 72 even if they said a 62 game season we get away with.
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But the later you start is, the more we got a compact all these games into a smaller schedule because we need to somehow get ourselves back onto a normal schedule because for whatever, whatever the reasons are behind it, every sport saw a drop in viewership over the course of the last three or four months.
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MLB is seeing it right now, though they've kind of settled into a I'll say, you know, subcategory underneath MBA or under underneath the NFL.
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But the MBA saw two in the bubble, so they know they want to get back on track.
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It doesn't look like they're going to be comfortable switching over into this summer kind of Siri's that they ran.
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So starting in December means, yeah, we could get 72 games and also balance what the rest is gonna look like.
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And if you do 72 games, then for the teams like the L A Lakers like the Miami Heat, teams have deeper playoff runs.
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Yeah, guess what.
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You could give LeBron James 10 games off over the course of that 72 start to mitigate some of the wear and tear.
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You probably are concerned about some of these teams that really went.
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I think it was 106 days that it was if you went wire to wire in the bubbles, you know, spent almost a third of a year in isolation like there has to be some reprieve for those teams and those players, while also balancing, making, making money and having the product on the court It's weird to see the MBA try to sort this out in a very short time line.
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Yeah, they're going to sort it out.
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I think I also saw that they're pretty much gonna wash All Star Weekend as it would currently be.
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Like Valentine's Day, like the second weekend in February and good.
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I mean, if we gotta get 72 when we got to get 72 thes guys aren't gonna get much of a break, it's gonna be like, you know, holiday break.
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And then potentially starting on Christmas, which is crazy, because when you think about it to start on Christmas, these guys would have to start practice and training around Thanksgiving.
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At least get a like a month training camp.
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A month runway, uh, so that that's the problem to me? Yeah, like you're only talking about, like in a in six weeks.
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You got there wrapping it up.
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Let's talk about the Lakers.
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The Lakers just went from October to October.
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They were in China opening up in October of 2019.
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They just won the championship in October of 2020 in Orlando.
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They're gonna get essentially two months off, not even um because really, like I'm saying, if they're if they're planning on starting now, Christmas training camps gotta open up, probably the day after Thanksgiving.
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And that's really like it's like a month and a half that these guys, they're gonna have off before they go right back in tow.
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A full season with no all star break.
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That's gonna go into June.
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So we're asking a lot of them.
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I think the Lakers, though they might want they might want that because if they're trying to run it back, if they're trying to just add a couple pieces and then go right back at this thing so that the Wash King and a D can reclaim that championship the I think the best thing is not a long break.
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Just go right back into it because they've been playing.
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They've been playing longer than a lot, like the warriors like Steph Clay Draymond they're gonna need They're gonna need at least a month to ramp up and get back into playing shape and playing with each other.
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The Lakers, they're gonna pick right off where they pick right up where they left off in the bubble.
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If this thing restarts as far as training camps opening after Thanksgiving.
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Well, I wonder that, too, because then you're talking about so say you're the Lakers, right? You're so close to finishing, you ramp right back up.
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You're still in shape.
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Everything great to your clicking if you get yourself a nice jump off to start the season, right? Really? Come out hot 20 and 5.
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25 25 5.
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Something like something crazy like that.
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Then in the middle part of the season.
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One of the things the MBA's had concerns about over the last handful of years is, you know, stars sitting down.
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You know, Popovich was big on this.
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Well, you just say like, hey, listen, then we're gonna We're gonna live with load management in the middle part of the season, especially around some of these big teams like the Lakers, The heat.
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You know any of those deep playoff teams? You go? Yeah, we understand it.
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And you're not gonna hear the league.
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Bake is big of a stink.
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And that's when the warriors will find their rhythm and get back into the mix.
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About time you get into the year, everything will balance out and you still create that, you know, hopefully a competitive good product throughout 72 games.
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The biggest thing for load management was the fans, right? The biggest argument or the biggest true was was people saying, Hey, I came to see LeBron.
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This is the one trip I got.
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Thio come to the Barclay Center to see LeBron and LeBron sitting Well, are we even sure that the fans are gonna be allowed in if we start in December? If we start this up on Christmas, I don't I don't know if that's gonna be That's definitely not gonna be the case in every state because it's state by state.
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Like I don't think the Lakers they're gonna have fans in the Staples Center if they opened up the season in December.
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I think that, you know, that holds the whole The biggest thing about the load management was the MBA fans saying they weren't gonna be able to see their guys.
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Well, that's not gonna be a problem if we start this season and go through most of the season without fans were like, Yeah, you know, like you said, the Lakers have a hot start.
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Rest LeBron rest a d in March, you know, and before the playoffs start in April, May June, rest him in March.
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With no fans in the stands. No problem.
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They could also, I wonder if it also try to flex where you want to get back on track.
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But even if you extend it end of June into the beginning of July, right and still offer maybe a flexibility around schedules and not jamming in the game so much that they are also talking about potentially clumping games and saying, If you're the Lakers, you're going to Chicago to play the Bulls, you're going to play maybe three games or to, you know, a couple of games and bulk them together.
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So you mitigate how much travel every team has to do over the course of of 72 maybe a little bit tighter schedule.
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That being said to flip it back over to the point guard to Sunday's conversations and one of the teams that was there in the finals Miami Heat, Gordon drag each.
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Let's just quickly touch on him.
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I assume he goes back to Miami because it just seems like it's a great fit there He's a veteran presence, but he's a really nice piece as a veteran backup if he got out of there.
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I mean, unlike maybe guys where you say team specific, fit specific.
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He feels like a guy that you could just say, Uh oh, I'll plug you into almost any championship level team and I know that I'm getting a quality contributor coming off the bench.
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Yeah, baggage.
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I mean, Rockets had to settle into that bench role.
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He wasn't open to that in the beginning, like I heard that there was a little, you know, a little blow.
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Bacchus faras him not wanting to come off the bench, but he understood that it was what was best for the team, the way the team was constructed.
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So, yeah, he's a guy that I think is, uh, on another team he could start on on.
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Maybe there's probably 10 teams that he'd be the lead guy, so if that's your 34 because he could make a big paycheck and go be the lead guy somewhere else.
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Not to his, you know, career legacy standpoint, but from a moneymaking standpoint, someone would be willing to pay him.
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I don't know That's an interesting thought because, you know, like he settled into that role, they made it to the finals.
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Part of it is probably gonna want to run it back, but part of this probably gotta also want to get paid.
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So maybe Pat Riley knows guys meet him in the middle somewhere, um sucks that he got hurt in the finals and didn't get really, you know, playing the finals.
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But that makes me also think that he's gonna come back to Miami and try and, uh, continue the unfinished business.
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That's what I assume there.
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The other couple of names will just throw out quickly before we get out here out of here.
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A couple of guys that I think are are best suited to go into that role.
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One is a guy that's been there, and that's That's Jordan Clarkson.
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Listen, he played, you know, played there in Utah this past season, but you're talking about a guy that knocks down 45% for the field.
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Good three point shooter has 664 decent length there.
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E mean, listen, could he run back there again? Maybe.
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But he feels like a nice length at the guard position that would fit in.
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Is there any team that jumps out to you that would stay? Here's a guy that would be nice and supplemental again, coming off a bench role as opposed to being given a larger workload.
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I don't know Jordan Clarkson.
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He gets it.
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He's nice, Like, you know, I think he's underrated, too.
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I think people sleep on him because he does come off the bench and he is playing behind like Donovan Mitchell.
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Rudy Gobert on that team.
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But he had some good minutes.
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I don't know.
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The Knicks probably want him.
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We're thing for his career.
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Worst thing any player wants to hear.
00:19:15
The Knicks are interested in you.
00:19:17
Yeah, I was like, Well, everywhere.
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But New York.
00:19:21
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, because again, he's a guy, remember, Go back to his Cleveland days.
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Contribute, you know, nice contributor there.
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He's in Utah now, with better bigger name players ahead of them on it, too.
00:19:33
So again, he's a nice on a championship roster.
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He's a guy that maybe at his age could go to the market and get a bit of a payday, and then also find out proof in the pudding off.
00:19:42
All right, you're not supposed to be the guy that we lean on, as are one or two or even three.
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Potentially, you wanted to be a little bit further down the depth chart.
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The only other guy that I would point out is, uh, well, I mean, there's other names out there, Obviously, a guy like Jeff Teague.
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But I look at him and think the best days are behind him.
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I feel like I feel like the Bloom has come off that rose a little bit, but D.
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J Augustine out of out of the magic.
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He's a guy that intrigues me because I feel like he's been in a starting role but would be much better suited to become a backup rotational Guyana again championship caliber team.
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What's your take on this? His game in general before we worry about where he might fit.
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Yeah, he's getting up there in age, And, uh, if he wants to start to shift his career into being a like veteran, that comes off the bench.
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That's the That's the window.
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That's the time, you know, Obviously, he's got some report with K d.
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I would love to see him and Katie get back together.
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But I feel like we've got more than enough guys handling the ball in Brooklyn.
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I kind of think Where d.
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J.
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Woodland, I think he's like I said, I think he's getting into the later years in his career where he was shifting to be in that veteran off the bench, but he might still wanna be a starter.
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He might still wanna be the guy well, again cause I looked at him and it's like, S o some of these players, right? When you see their sample sizes and you say, Well, he's the guys hitting 45% from the field and you think great, expand those minutes, but that we we know that those numbers shrink in terms of percentages because it's not still one for one.
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You're playing 10 minutes.
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Give him 20 minutes, we'll keep knocking it down.
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But in August, teens case, even in this past year and for his career, by the way, like he's a 41% from the feel career shooter, just a hair under 40.
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This past season he saw a dip in three point shooting, two down to just under 35% like he looks like again, you say, getting older, but 10 points, couple rebounds and almost five assists per game.
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Like, I think if you shrink his sample size, you'd actually see the improvement in all of those percentages across the board.
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So that's where I think if you're in his shoes E for him specifically, he doesn't have a market like there's not a team that's looking to give him a big paycheck right now.
00:21:48
So when you just mentioned, like drag in Miami Hey, maybe you meet in the middle like drag.
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It's still showed a ton of upside where maybe a team can come and offer him a big enough payday that pulls him away from Miami.
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If you're Augustine, I think you have to be looking at saying like, Hey, if I could get on a better team on a top four seed and either conference kind of team and also get myself even a if I think I could earn myself 10 million somewhere a year, I'll take the seven or eight the six million a year for on a two year deal, knowing that it means I get to have quality minutes and play on a competitive team like I think that that's the sweet spot for him.
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And he's made money over his career ready to.
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It's not like he hasn't cashed in a couple of times.
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Yeah, and I mean the MBA shuffling in the summer and the MBA, like about to quickly shuffle shuffle.
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Now, on this fall winter, it's about teaming up.
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It's about super teams is about power duos.
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It's about, uh, you know where you guys want to stay.
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You know, you talk about D.
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J.
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Augustine in Dallas, like, Does he want to stay with Luca and poor Zynga's and what they have going there? Does he want to go get paid somewhere else? I'm starting to look at The MBA is like all of these guys make money like there's there's guys sitting on the bench in the n B A that are making bank.
00:22:58
I think a lot of these guys, especially as they get up in their career like a D. J.
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Augustine and they're they're looking for a ring.
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It's like, all right, where can I figure out uh, you know where the land with my services that's gonna get me to the finals.
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I've never been to a finals.
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I'm trying to win.
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And that's what makes it exciting to.
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Because then you get to see different versions of these players.
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Like, Who are you wanna contributing? Championship caliber team versus a lead dog on a bad team, right? I mean, it's the thing that I thought when you look down in, uh in Atlanta there and Trey Young, it's like And then there's a ton of these examples over over the over the N B A in the last decade.
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But you look a trade long ago.
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How many seasons like how many years will it be of him doing his thing and looking so good before you go? Hey, man, you know it might be great is if you didn't play on the Hawks because they're not good, and I don't know if they're ever gonna you know, their their peak could be getting to where the Pacers have gotten to kind of the middle of the pack team.
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And you're a really good player.
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You're scoring 30 plus a game.
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You don't be better if you were scoring 23 points a game and being a contributor in there with another mix of players and you just watching young players burn out early in their career.
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And Matt Brooks and I talked about this off.
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If you if you're always holding up that offensive mantle, you forget about creating a well rounded game and then 34 years down the road.
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I'm trying to think of who they talked about, who who say this with about his death.
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Oh, it was Donovan Mitchell and being like when he came into the league, we thought this guy's got such defensive a***en, and then it just slowly they were like, Yeah, well, you know, we got a big body there in the back there to five.
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Why don't you go ahead? Just focus.
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Focus on offense and we haven't seen that defensive upside that we heard about.
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And you start to wonder.
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Hey, is he just done doing that is just moving away from it.
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So well rounded games also sometimes suffer when you play on bad teams.
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Yeah, like what? Trey Young.
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They they should be able to track some people to Atlanta.
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Atlanta is not a bad city, like they should be able to get somebody to come there and play with him.
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But I see trade young and I'm like, Is he gonna head down the road of, like Damian Lillard? I mean, he's not in Portland, but, like Damian Lillard is the guy in the in the league.
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That's like, No, I know I'm in a small market and I'm going to stay here and win and I'm gonna grind it out forever and not team up and not cheat the grind.
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And it's like, Okay, that's cool and all, but, like, that's not the game, bro.
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Like hate, the player don't hate the game.
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The game right now is to team up and link up with, you know, the best players to try and win a championship.
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It's happened all through the league.
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We're seeing duos across the league, and, um, you know, it's just it's just is how how it is, it's It's the trend of the league.
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So I don't trade young.
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Some of these other guys like I'm ready to just see it all shuffle and shift and see where the N B A, you know is is, uh, constructed for this this next shortened season.
00:25:44
But like back toe more of a regular season.
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No, me too.
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I always just like to see different guys in different places and how How Some of those partnerships can impact each other across the rest of these kind of free agent guys that are out there.
00:25:57
Any other names that jumped out of you? The DellaVedova is of the world, and it was only 30.
00:26:01
And I you know, I think sometimes we underrate, um, gets that classic, you know, classic white guy hustle.
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Kind of kind of tag on him.
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But he's been a nice contributor on some rosters as well.
00:26:12
Even when you look at the list a little bit, um, you know, we mentioned we know Rondo is gonna go somewhere, but, you know, Beret and 36 I assume that that's pretty much a wash situation.
00:26:22
They're moody, is a younger player, but not necessarily a great player, you know, And even a guy like a Wanamaker at a Boston older, 31 years old, he probably could be in a position to move on to somewhere else.
00:26:34
Are there any other names that hop out of you where you're at least, you know, excited to see where they land ast faras the point guards.
00:26:41
I think we talked about Derrick Rose a little bit.
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Uh, he's got a lot of heat right now on his name.
00:26:46
I'll throw him in there.
00:26:47
Um I mean, yeah, I don't know.
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Outside of point guards, shooting guards.
00:26:52
Um, Brad, Bill, But I think Brad Bill is going to stay in D. C.
00:26:56
They they're gonna want to see him and John Wall, um, together again before they decide what they want to do with that team.
00:27:04
A Drew holiday, obviously.
00:27:05
You know, going back to all the you know, the Nets chatter.
00:27:08
People were talking about Drew holiday defensively and him possibly joining the Nets.
00:27:14
Um, but yeah, I don't know.
00:27:15
We'll see.
00:27:16
There's there's a couple guys that are gonna be like, there's there's like, the lower level guys and then there's, like, a higher level guys and then the top to your guys.
00:27:23
And then, uh, you know, depending on where the top guys go in the middle tier in the lower tier than they all kind of fall in the place.
00:27:30
Well, actually, the last one I'll throw because I had him on my list was Reggie Jackson, do you? What's your impression of a player like that? Who is coming off of, Ah, you know, coming off of a season there with the Clippers, obviously.
00:27:41
And really, in a situation where maybe the Clippers, they're going to be quote blowing it up in some form or fashion, even if it's just the contributing in secondary roles, he's bounced around a little bit.
00:27:51
Is he still a valuable, You know, a valuable piece that maybe just again needs to find the right spot to be a contributor on.
00:27:58
Yeah, he got traded over there, and then he got a lot of heat for Luca hitting that shot in this face, which didn't matter because they won the Siri's.
00:28:05
But like CO, I should have been Garden.
00:28:07
Lucas shouldn't have been Reggie out there.
00:28:10
Reggie is a solid player.
00:28:11
He's a tough player, scrappy player.
00:28:14
I don't know if he stays with the Clippers.
00:28:16
I know a couple of weeks back, people saying Oh, Kawai wants a new point guard or something like that and I don't know, we'll see where he lands.
00:28:24
I don't know if he stays with them, though.
00:28:25
I think it's gonna be tough.
00:28:26
I think he had kind of like a a weird fit with CO I I feel like I saw co.
00:28:31
I kind of disrespect him a couple of times or look at him sideways a couple of times last year like it was a look of Hey, buddy, you know, until, like, don't buy a house, probably rent be better for you if you're in.
00:28:43
If you're looking in our life, you're looking at the real estate market.
00:28:45
E don't know why you're on the court with me right now.
00:28:50
Mhm e don't know who let you in the gym.
00:28:54
I don't understand what I understand happened? No.
00:28:56
So listen, it is interesting, right? Like, and you go back a handful of years and Reggie Jackson's felt like a little bit of a bigger name, and it only takes a couple of trips down the road and bouncing around and ending up on a roster where a superstar player is giving you the side eye for the league collected video.
00:29:10
I wonder, um, the only the one that I'm interested about.
00:29:12
I think you guys like bird rights on them is, uh, DeAndre Fox there with the kings kind of up and down experience there, but I don't know.
00:29:20
Yeah, sorry.
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You know, John five.
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I think I just I think I just named a and then an actor or possibly an NBA player from 20 years ago. The point.
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You know, I know where you're going way where we're at.
00:29:30
But he's a young Some of those young players I also think are exciting.
00:29:34
Thio to consider here off just low players to get shuffled around and maybe just need Thio learn, relearn in a new system.
00:29:41
When you have these really young rosters, at some point, they need to pivot and get this blend off.
00:29:47
Older veteran talent of a drag it to come in Just that you get some experience ahead of these young players.
00:29:52
So I wonder if you could just kind of be this ancillary piece that gets shuffled and maybe gets to revamp himself on another roster somewhere else.
00:29:59
Swiper the fox.
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He's He's fast, He's shifty.
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He's a dog I love anytime he plays against Lonzo Ball because they'll strike that narrative up that he always eats Lonzo balls, lunch.
00:30:12
I think he's got to get out of Sacramento.
00:30:14
Uh, they got to do something with that team.
00:30:16
They've got some talent there.
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But I don't know what they're gonna do if they're gonna blow that team up or if they're gonna bring some veterans in.
00:30:22
But yeah, Fox could go.
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I mean, I would love to see Fox on the Lakers.
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Uh, go to the lake.
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I mean, everybody's going to the Lakers, but I feel like he's got to get on a team with some other stars, some other all stars.
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That's competitive.
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And then he'll shine Mauritz tough.
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It's tough to do much when you're you're you're down 20 the whole game with the Kings and if you're the king's to like young team young talent.
00:30:46
But in the Western Conference, like you see the landscape there, you've you know, you've got so many you got the Nuggets and you've got the jazz and you've got the Clippers and the Lakers and, you know, like you start piling up, you go.
00:30:57
Yeah, we're young, but we're still and you got the pelicans air coming now, you know, like we're in this mix of back end of back end of the Western Conference.
00:31:05
So at some point, the veteran aspect of it is.
00:31:08
That's what helps you move the needle on a couple of these key games of the regular season that moves you from being 1/9 or 10th seed to being an eighth or maybe even 1/7 seed.
00:31:15
So be interesting to keep an eye on them.
00:31:17
The bottom line is, man, there's a lot.
00:31:18
There's enough names out there that I just want to start to hear the action.
00:31:22
I wanna e wanna start to hear these dominos start to fall.
00:31:25
And even if it is the big piece of what the Lakers doing is Ron where Where's Rondo? Rondo moving on and where is he going to go? How do the Lakers look to supplement something? A third guard spot, even with Avery Bradley potentially returning there? And then that starts to have this trickle down and fact.
00:31:39
Obviously, you and I are keeping our eyes on the Brooklyn Nets, and if they're going to shuffle anything there, But I just need I need these pieces to start to make moves here so I can look at how some of these teams construct and then you also you also learn what they want to do this upcoming year, right? Like young teams that move on.
00:31:55
If the Kings made some moves for veteran town, you go.
00:31:58
Okay.
00:31:59
That means they want to get competitive.
00:32:00
Now they want to try to move the needle.
00:32:01
But then if you stay young, you go all right? We're gonna live with it, right? We're gonna see what happens over the next couple of seasons before we worry about really shaking up our rosters.
00:32:09
Yeah.
00:32:10
And the draft.
00:32:11
I mean, I'm forgetting about the draft.
00:32:12
The draft is coming up, like, three weeks.
00:32:15
Something like that.
00:32:16
And the draft.
00:32:18
Like, you know, last year the Grizzlies went away from Mike Conley knowing that they're going to draft John Moran like little things like that.
00:32:26
Or when the chips start to fall and you start to figure out like MBA landscape is gonna be interesting is gonna be like a little ah, little shift coming to.
00:32:36
That's it, man.
00:32:37
Until we come back in, obviously I'll be back in tomorrow morning with Matt Brooks, the church out of bounce off some of these ideas off of him.
00:32:43
See what his perspective is.
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Warriors eyeing Jeremy Lin to back up Stephen Curry

‘Linsanity’ might be hitting Dub Nation soon as sources claim that the Golden State Warriors are interested in veteran point guard Jeremy Lin to provide some much-needed backcourt support for two-time league MVP Stephen Curry. According to the same report, Curry as well as other core members of the team like the 32-year old’s style […]

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with that.
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We welcome you back once again.
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This protester News N b A where I'm Adam arm break.
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That's Keith McPherson.
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And we're back on a Monday talking plenty of MBA off season How you survive in the morning, Keith, I know you came down with something.
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We're not sure what It was your on the mend.
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Now? Yeah, I'm surviving.
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I have a little bit of a head cold.
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I've had the whole weekend.
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I've been doing stream the whole weekend, so I'm all right.
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And, you know, the weather is changing a little bit.
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We had a day where it was, like, 75 degrees a couple days ago.
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Then it got colder again, and I don't know, it's the last week of October were in the fall and, uh, just pushing through the sports had a late night last night watching the Cardinals come back to win it in overtime.
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That was crazy.
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And then also the Dodgers finishing off the res 42 in Game five of the world's Siri's.
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But here we are, Monday morning, talking MBA, talking some basketball.
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And you better believe it, man, I got this number.
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It's the MBA fall which is the MBA summer.
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Well, that's I have.
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No, I have no horse in the race for the world Siri's, but I so badly want to see that stolen base at home plate happen just for the sake of, like first time, however long it's been, if you know the World Series stolen base at home.
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So I had that piqued my interest.
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Anyway, when we talk about the n B A and their offseason, actually a little bit of rumor coming out now they may ramp up and try to start the new MBA season, where they had first speculated it in around Christmas Day.
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So this could be a lot shorter off season, and it could be a lot quicker that were back in action.
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So any of these moves the team's wanna make, actually kind of becomes really important to get it done.
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Maybe a little bit sooner, because you could be looking at only having a couple of months here to acclimate and get guys onto your roster and see how they fit in.
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So with that, of course, you can't get through you.
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Just when you thought that this name was out of the MBA circuits and so far gone playing over in China this past season.
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Jeremy Lin.
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His name resurfaces around N B.
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A conversations he had said to think of a few weeks ago that he wanted to try to make a return to the N B A at some point.
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And now there's a rumor that the Golden State Warriors might be interested in him in a backup point guard role.
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Take it away.
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What are your thoughts on Jeremy Lin? What are your thoughts specifically with him? If it were to be on a championship caliber team like the Warriors? Jeremy Lin, a guy that, uh, you know, got Linsanity going in New York.
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That's his most famous fame to claim is most famous run.
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And then the guy got, you know, the cold shoulder from the league.
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He yeah, teared up last year.
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Last summer, there was a so like, something he did in Taiwan or somewhere he was speaking.
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I think it might have been like a church or something.
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And he broke down talking about his experience in the MBA, his journey in the MBA, which has been a while, one which is the most unique story in its own.
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For a guy like Jeremy Lin, a Chinese American, uh, you know, a guy that went to Harvard? Um, there's so many little things about Jeremy Lin that make his story unique, but for him to be emotionally compromised, thinking about that off season last season where he didn't get any offers because he had hurt his knee and he was playing with the Raptors and he didn't play too well before he hurt his knee.
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I read somewhere that he missed like 17 shots in a row, three point shots in a row, playing for the Raptors before he got hurt.
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So nothing was good for Jeremy Lin on the court.
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And then once you have an injury, not too many people are knocking on your door.
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But fast forward now.
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Ah, whole summer has passed, and now we're in the MBA fall.
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There's some interest.
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And, of course, the all mighty warriors air looking the come back together and create Ultron and be right on top of the West.
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And what do they need? They could use Ah, veteran point guard in Jeremy Lin and off course he's interested, I think, for his brand that'd be awesome for him to be in the Bay Area and then for him to come back to the n b A.
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And not have to be the number 1234 options, uh, that be also for him, the land with Golden State.
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But who says it gets done? It might not.
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There might be some other people interested in his services, oddly enough, because I didn't I didn't know this, but go back and I mean, we knew that.
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He said a certain point.
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Jeremy Lin started bouncing around.
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So in, you know, reverse order.
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Toronto, Atlanta, Brooklyn.
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There for a couple of seasons on over the same stretch, but in two different stents.
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The Charlotte Hornets, the L A Lakers, the Houston Rockets, the New York Knicks for Linsanity and then 12,011.
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He was on the Golden State Warriors for 20 for 29 games that he appeared in their averaging just 10 minutes.
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So back where it all began in some form or fashion here, potentially for Jeremy Lin.
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But it's interesting when we were preparing to come on this morning, this is where it took my mind.
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So Jeremy Lin is your number one now? Obviously not.
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But even back in Linsanity times, as good as that was, there was still this this this kind of thought of right.
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But even this isn't great for your team if you're trying to construct a real competitive winning basketball team, so when then you look at the point guard position, You look around the league right now, you're looking free agency.
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There's a lot of veteran guys out there right now.
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Are there because there's a couple of names that jumped out at me and one specifically that I think should be, ah, highly valued player for a championship caliber team.
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Are there any names that jump out off you? Like the van fleets? We know that that that's not a backup guy.
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That's a starting role player.
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Even Rajon Rondo has asserted himself is maybe being ableto collect one more big paycheck.
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Are there any names that you're really interested? Regardless of where you think they're gonna go? Just man, wherever this player goes, coming off the bench is going to be a significant boost for a team like the Lakers.
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Like the Clippers, even the Golden State Warriors and do you think before you get to that? Do you think that Jeremy Lin really would move the needle just from, ah, supplemental depth perspective for Golden State? Or is that almost boy someone who's been in the N.
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B A.
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The last couple of seasons is probably a better route for them.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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There's a lot to be seen with.
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Jeremy Lin like, Is he slower after his knee injury? It does he still have it? Can he shoot? Can he knock down threes? Is he still quick and shifty? That was his old thing.
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He was, You know, he was kind of like undersized, but not small.
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Uh, shifty enough could distribute the ball, make plays, make open shots.
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I think it depends because, you know, I think the Golden State Warriors are a team with veterans that they want a veteran guy and a high I Q guy.
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And maybe they saw something in his style of play that they think would fit well with Steph, Clay and Draymond.
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But there are other guys out there.
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Obviously, Fred Vanvleet is the number one name.
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Of course, the Knicks fans out there think he's coming to New York.
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I don't think he's coming to New York.
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I think Toronto locks him up.
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I think you know he's part of that championship run, that they had that team that they currently have, that they think it's still championship caliber if you let.
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So I go in 2019 and then you let Fred go in 2020 that team.
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You might as well start breaking that team apart.
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You might as well start, you know, build rebuilding.
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Um, and if we're talking about looking for guys and teams rebuilding teams, moving guys around, another name is Zach Lavine.
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A lot of people have been talking about him.
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Even, you know, during the season, people were talking about Zach Lavine.
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I'm very interested to see where he goes.
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Like, well, he land with the Lakers.
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Some people were saying, Even some people, you know, throw the Nets in because the Nets need a third star.
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That's, uh, don't have enough to do it.
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They gotta get one Mawr superstar.
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But I don't think he lands in Brooklyn.
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Who else is out there right now? Eso It's like, you know the love in one's interesting.
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I think like coming out of coming out of Chicago.
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It feels like whatever his Valley like his value, has just been dropping over the course of his career there and again, a product of the environment that coaching everything else.
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So he feels like a guy that he could end up somewhere else and has to kind of like rebuild what he is a player and rebuild what it looks like to be a contributor on a winning team is a book, because again, this is that, not a point guard, but it's always the easy reference.
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The Kevin Love in Minnesota was always the that's always the reference point off.
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Ah, guy on a bad team.
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Looking really good doesn't mean that you just take those stat lines in that production and move it over a championship team because there's more mouths to feed on the roster.
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So we'll be becomes interesting.
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I will say, and I didn't wanna It'll jump ahead here, but Chris done, who is also there in Chicago.
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He's the guy.
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He's actually the name and we can run through some of the other veteran ones, but to me, ah, guy who comes in with a rapture rating of plus 4.
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1 on the defensive side of the ball gives you +74 and 3.
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5 per game like he's the perfect.
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If you have offensive weapons, we say Brooklyn, like if you're Brooklyn, what I want is a guy that can come in and just pick up the other guy's best player.
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Be a nice defensive lock down guy and then listen.
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Shot 44% from the field.
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So he's not a slouch.
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There is not a three point shooter, so I think 25% on this past season.
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But that's what you need, right? A role player like that and he could plug in now. Maybe not.
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So you mentioned Golden State.
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I don't know it had.
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They're looking for just firepower purely first, and they're worried about all these other things secondary, because you do have Clay Thompson.
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There's a lock down defender, and obviously, Draymond Green can focus on that end of the court.
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But that's a 26 year old player that you could plug into a lot of different rosters and feel pretty excited about getting, you know, 15 20 minutes from coming off the bench.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I wasn't even thinking about him.
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He's definitely solid.
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And then, you know, you just ran through his numbers and like you're saying, it comes down to fits.
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It comes down the needs.
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And it also comes down to, you know, structure like these guys that are playing in these smaller markets or these teams without stars.
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Their numbers are skewed.
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Their numbers air different.
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When they land in a big market or with other talent or star players.
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The game completely changes, especially in the MBA.
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Like you can't You can't plug and play players that easily in the MBA because there's different schemes, different systems, different styles of play.
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Um, you know, it's gotta be a match.
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It's gotta be a match where, you know, Okay, this guy's style is the type of style that we wanna put with a Steph Clay, a Draymond.
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I'm very interested to see how the MBA shuffles this year.
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You know, like you spoke of with the restart being now.
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Well, everyone was saying, Oh, MLK day.
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You know, that'd be great for Martin Luther King Day to be the restart.
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Uh, you know, historically, the NBA has played on Martin Luther King Day.
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But I think now they're realizing with money and with the number of games that they want to get in there, like now we might have to accelerate this to Christmas Day and get it in there.
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Ah, month before so that we could try and get.
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I think I saw 72 games is the target they're trying to hit.
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What I was gonna say was so we could sidetrack here for a second that started.
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It is predicated on.
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So I assume the discussions they're having with LeBron James and the superstars and the Players Association is saying, Listen, if we start later were we still need to get at least they're saying 72 even if they said a 62 game season we get away with.
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But the later you start is, the more we got a compact all these games into a smaller schedule because we need to somehow get ourselves back onto a normal schedule because for whatever, whatever the reasons are behind it, every sport saw a drop in viewership over the course of the last three or four months.
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MLB is seeing it right now, though they've kind of settled into a I'll say, you know, subcategory underneath MBA or under underneath the NFL.
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But the MBA saw two in the bubble, so they know they want to get back on track.
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It doesn't look like they're going to be comfortable switching over into this summer kind of Siri's that they ran.
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So starting in December means, yeah, we could get 72 games and also balance what the rest is gonna look like.
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And if you do 72 games, then for the teams like the L A Lakers like the Miami Heat, teams have deeper playoff runs.
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Yeah, guess what.
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You could give LeBron James 10 games off over the course of that 72 start to mitigate some of the wear and tear.
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You probably are concerned about some of these teams that really went.
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I think it was 106 days that it was if you went wire to wire in the bubbles, you know, spent almost a third of a year in isolation like there has to be some reprieve for those teams and those players, while also balancing, making, making money and having the product on the court It's weird to see the MBA try to sort this out in a very short time line.
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Yeah, they're going to sort it out.
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I think I also saw that they're pretty much gonna wash All Star Weekend as it would currently be.
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Like Valentine's Day, like the second weekend in February and good.
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I mean, if we gotta get 72 when we got to get 72 thes guys aren't gonna get much of a break, it's gonna be like, you know, holiday break.
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And then potentially starting on Christmas, which is crazy, because when you think about it to start on Christmas, these guys would have to start practice and training around Thanksgiving.
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At least get a like a month training camp.
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A month runway, uh, so that that's the problem to me? Yeah, like you're only talking about, like in a in six weeks.
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You got there wrapping it up.
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Let's talk about the Lakers.
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The Lakers just went from October to October.
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They were in China opening up in October of 2019.
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They just won the championship in October of 2020 in Orlando.
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They're gonna get essentially two months off, not even um because really, like I'm saying, if they're if they're planning on starting now, Christmas training camps gotta open up, probably the day after Thanksgiving.
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And that's really like it's like a month and a half that these guys, they're gonna have off before they go right back in tow.
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A full season with no all star break.
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That's gonna go into June.
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So we're asking a lot of them.
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I think the Lakers, though they might want they might want that because if they're trying to run it back, if they're trying to just add a couple pieces and then go right back at this thing so that the Wash King and a D can reclaim that championship the I think the best thing is not a long break.
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Just go right back into it because they've been playing.
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They've been playing longer than a lot, like the warriors like Steph Clay Draymond they're gonna need They're gonna need at least a month to ramp up and get back into playing shape and playing with each other.
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The Lakers, they're gonna pick right off where they pick right up where they left off in the bubble.
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If this thing restarts as far as training camps opening after Thanksgiving.
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Well, I wonder that, too, because then you're talking about so say you're the Lakers, right? You're so close to finishing, you ramp right back up.
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You're still in shape.
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Everything great to your clicking if you get yourself a nice jump off to start the season, right? Really? Come out hot 20 and 5.
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25 25 5.
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Something like something crazy like that.
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Then in the middle part of the season.
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One of the things the MBA's had concerns about over the last handful of years is, you know, stars sitting down.
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You know, Popovich was big on this.
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Well, you just say like, hey, listen, then we're gonna We're gonna live with load management in the middle part of the season, especially around some of these big teams like the Lakers, The heat.
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You know any of those deep playoff teams? You go? Yeah, we understand it.
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And you're not gonna hear the league.
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Bake is big of a stink.
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And that's when the warriors will find their rhythm and get back into the mix.
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About time you get into the year, everything will balance out and you still create that, you know, hopefully a competitive good product throughout 72 games.
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The biggest thing for load management was the fans, right? The biggest argument or the biggest true was was people saying, Hey, I came to see LeBron.
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This is the one trip I got.
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Thio come to the Barclay Center to see LeBron and LeBron sitting Well, are we even sure that the fans are gonna be allowed in if we start in December? If we start this up on Christmas, I don't I don't know if that's gonna be That's definitely not gonna be the case in every state because it's state by state.
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Like I don't think the Lakers they're gonna have fans in the Staples Center if they opened up the season in December.
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I think that, you know, that holds the whole The biggest thing about the load management was the MBA fans saying they weren't gonna be able to see their guys.
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Well, that's not gonna be a problem if we start this season and go through most of the season without fans were like, Yeah, you know, like you said, the Lakers have a hot start.
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Rest LeBron rest a d in March, you know, and before the playoffs start in April, May June, rest him in March.
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With no fans in the stands. No problem.
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They could also, I wonder if it also try to flex where you want to get back on track.
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But even if you extend it end of June into the beginning of July, right and still offer maybe a flexibility around schedules and not jamming in the game so much that they are also talking about potentially clumping games and saying, If you're the Lakers, you're going to Chicago to play the Bulls, you're going to play maybe three games or to, you know, a couple of games and bulk them together.
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So you mitigate how much travel every team has to do over the course of of 72 maybe a little bit tighter schedule.
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That being said to flip it back over to the point guard to Sunday's conversations and one of the teams that was there in the finals Miami Heat, Gordon drag each.
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Let's just quickly touch on him.
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I assume he goes back to Miami because it just seems like it's a great fit there He's a veteran presence, but he's a really nice piece as a veteran backup if he got out of there.
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I mean, unlike maybe guys where you say team specific, fit specific.
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He feels like a guy that you could just say, Uh oh, I'll plug you into almost any championship level team and I know that I'm getting a quality contributor coming off the bench.
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Yeah, baggage.
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I mean, Rockets had to settle into that bench role.
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He wasn't open to that in the beginning, like I heard that there was a little, you know, a little blow.
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Bacchus faras him not wanting to come off the bench, but he understood that it was what was best for the team, the way the team was constructed.
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So, yeah, he's a guy that I think is, uh, on another team he could start on on.
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Maybe there's probably 10 teams that he'd be the lead guy, so if that's your 34 because he could make a big paycheck and go be the lead guy somewhere else.
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Not to his, you know, career legacy standpoint, but from a moneymaking standpoint, someone would be willing to pay him.
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I don't know That's an interesting thought because, you know, like he settled into that role, they made it to the finals.
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Part of it is probably gonna want to run it back, but part of this probably gotta also want to get paid.
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So maybe Pat Riley knows guys meet him in the middle somewhere, um sucks that he got hurt in the finals and didn't get really, you know, playing the finals.
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But that makes me also think that he's gonna come back to Miami and try and, uh, continue the unfinished business.
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That's what I assume there.
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The other couple of names will just throw out quickly before we get out here out of here.
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A couple of guys that I think are are best suited to go into that role.
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One is a guy that's been there, and that's That's Jordan Clarkson.
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Listen, he played, you know, played there in Utah this past season, but you're talking about a guy that knocks down 45% for the field.
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Good three point shooter has 664 decent length there.
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E mean, listen, could he run back there again? Maybe.
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But he feels like a nice length at the guard position that would fit in.
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Is there any team that jumps out to you that would stay? Here's a guy that would be nice and supplemental again, coming off a bench role as opposed to being given a larger workload.
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I don't know Jordan Clarkson.
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He gets it.
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He's nice, Like, you know, I think he's underrated, too.
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I think people sleep on him because he does come off the bench and he is playing behind like Donovan Mitchell.
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Rudy Gobert on that team.
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But he had some good minutes.
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I don't know.
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The Knicks probably want him.
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We're thing for his career.
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Worst thing any player wants to hear.
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The Knicks are interested in you.
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Yeah, I was like, Well, everywhere.
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But New York.
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Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, because again, he's a guy, remember, Go back to his Cleveland days.
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Contribute, you know, nice contributor there.
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He's in Utah now, with better bigger name players ahead of them on it, too.
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So again, he's a nice on a championship roster.
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He's a guy that maybe at his age could go to the market and get a bit of a payday, and then also find out proof in the pudding off.
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All right, you're not supposed to be the guy that we lean on, as are one or two or even three.
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Potentially, you wanted to be a little bit further down the depth chart.
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The only other guy that I would point out is, uh, well, I mean, there's other names out there, Obviously, a guy like Jeff Teague.
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But I look at him and think the best days are behind him.
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I feel like I feel like the Bloom has come off that rose a little bit, but D.
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J Augustine out of out of the magic.
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He's a guy that intrigues me because I feel like he's been in a starting role but would be much better suited to become a backup rotational Guyana again championship caliber team.
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What's your take on this? His game in general before we worry about where he might fit.
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Yeah, he's getting up there in age, And, uh, if he wants to start to shift his career into being a like veteran, that comes off the bench.
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That's the That's the window.
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That's the time, you know, Obviously, he's got some report with K d.
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I would love to see him and Katie get back together.
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But I feel like we've got more than enough guys handling the ball in Brooklyn.
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I kind of think Where d.
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J.
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Woodland, I think he's like I said, I think he's getting into the later years in his career where he was shifting to be in that veteran off the bench, but he might still wanna be a starter.
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He might still wanna be the guy well, again cause I looked at him and it's like, S o some of these players, right? When you see their sample sizes and you say, Well, he's the guys hitting 45% from the field and you think great, expand those minutes, but that we we know that those numbers shrink in terms of percentages because it's not still one for one.
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You're playing 10 minutes.
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Give him 20 minutes, we'll keep knocking it down.
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But in August, teens case, even in this past year and for his career, by the way, like he's a 41% from the feel career shooter, just a hair under 40.
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This past season he saw a dip in three point shooting, two down to just under 35% like he looks like again, you say, getting older, but 10 points, couple rebounds and almost five assists per game.
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Like, I think if you shrink his sample size, you'd actually see the improvement in all of those percentages across the board.
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So that's where I think if you're in his shoes E for him specifically, he doesn't have a market like there's not a team that's looking to give him a big paycheck right now.
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So when you just mentioned, like drag in Miami Hey, maybe you meet in the middle like drag.
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It's still showed a ton of upside where maybe a team can come and offer him a big enough payday that pulls him away from Miami.
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If you're Augustine, I think you have to be looking at saying like, Hey, if I could get on a better team on a top four seed and either conference kind of team and also get myself even a if I think I could earn myself 10 million somewhere a year, I'll take the seven or eight the six million a year for on a two year deal, knowing that it means I get to have quality minutes and play on a competitive team like I think that that's the sweet spot for him.
00:22:20
And he's made money over his career ready to.
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It's not like he hasn't cashed in a couple of times.
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Yeah, and I mean the MBA shuffling in the summer and the MBA, like about to quickly shuffle shuffle.
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Now, on this fall winter, it's about teaming up.
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It's about super teams is about power duos.
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It's about, uh, you know where you guys want to stay.
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You know, you talk about D.
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J.
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Augustine in Dallas, like, Does he want to stay with Luca and poor Zynga's and what they have going there? Does he want to go get paid somewhere else? I'm starting to look at The MBA is like all of these guys make money like there's there's guys sitting on the bench in the n B A that are making bank.
00:22:58
I think a lot of these guys, especially as they get up in their career like a D. J.
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Augustine and they're they're looking for a ring.
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It's like, all right, where can I figure out uh, you know where the land with my services that's gonna get me to the finals.
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I've never been to a finals.
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I'm trying to win.
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And that's what makes it exciting to.
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Because then you get to see different versions of these players.
00:23:17
Like, Who are you wanna contributing? Championship caliber team versus a lead dog on a bad team, right? I mean, it's the thing that I thought when you look down in, uh in Atlanta there and Trey Young, it's like And then there's a ton of these examples over over the over the N B A in the last decade.
00:23:33
But you look a trade long ago.
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How many seasons like how many years will it be of him doing his thing and looking so good before you go? Hey, man, you know it might be great is if you didn't play on the Hawks because they're not good, and I don't know if they're ever gonna you know, their their peak could be getting to where the Pacers have gotten to kind of the middle of the pack team.
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And you're a really good player.
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You're scoring 30 plus a game.
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You don't be better if you were scoring 23 points a game and being a contributor in there with another mix of players and you just watching young players burn out early in their career.
00:24:05
And Matt Brooks and I talked about this off.
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If you if you're always holding up that offensive mantle, you forget about creating a well rounded game and then 34 years down the road.
00:24:15
I'm trying to think of who they talked about, who who say this with about his death.
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Oh, it was Donovan Mitchell and being like when he came into the league, we thought this guy's got such defensive a***en, and then it just slowly they were like, Yeah, well, you know, we got a big body there in the back there to five.
00:24:29
Why don't you go ahead? Just focus.
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Focus on offense and we haven't seen that defensive upside that we heard about.
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And you start to wonder.
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Hey, is he just done doing that is just moving away from it.
00:24:37
So well rounded games also sometimes suffer when you play on bad teams.
00:24:42
Yeah, like what? Trey Young.
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They they should be able to track some people to Atlanta.
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Atlanta is not a bad city, like they should be able to get somebody to come there and play with him.
00:24:52
But I see trade young and I'm like, Is he gonna head down the road of, like Damian Lillard? I mean, he's not in Portland, but, like Damian Lillard is the guy in the in the league.
00:25:02
That's like, No, I know I'm in a small market and I'm going to stay here and win and I'm gonna grind it out forever and not team up and not cheat the grind.
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And it's like, Okay, that's cool and all, but, like, that's not the game, bro.
00:25:13
Like hate, the player don't hate the game.
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The game right now is to team up and link up with, you know, the best players to try and win a championship.
00:25:22
It's happened all through the league.
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We're seeing duos across the league, and, um, you know, it's just it's just is how how it is, it's It's the trend of the league.
00:25:31
So I don't trade young.
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Some of these other guys like I'm ready to just see it all shuffle and shift and see where the N B A, you know is is, uh, constructed for this this next shortened season.
00:25:44
But like back toe more of a regular season.
00:25:47
No, me too.
00:25:48
I always just like to see different guys in different places and how How Some of those partnerships can impact each other across the rest of these kind of free agent guys that are out there.
00:25:57
Any other names that jumped out of you? The DellaVedova is of the world, and it was only 30.
00:26:01
And I you know, I think sometimes we underrate, um, gets that classic, you know, classic white guy hustle.
00:26:07
Kind of kind of tag on him.
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But he's been a nice contributor on some rosters as well.
00:26:12
Even when you look at the list a little bit, um, you know, we mentioned we know Rondo is gonna go somewhere, but, you know, Beret and 36 I assume that that's pretty much a wash situation.
00:26:22
They're moody, is a younger player, but not necessarily a great player, you know, And even a guy like a Wanamaker at a Boston older, 31 years old, he probably could be in a position to move on to somewhere else.
00:26:34
Are there any other names that hop out of you where you're at least, you know, excited to see where they land ast faras the point guards.
00:26:41
I think we talked about Derrick Rose a little bit.
00:26:43
Uh, he's got a lot of heat right now on his name.
00:26:46
I'll throw him in there.
00:26:47
Um I mean, yeah, I don't know.
00:26:50
Outside of point guards, shooting guards.
00:26:52
Um, Brad, Bill, But I think Brad Bill is going to stay in D. C.
00:26:56
They they're gonna want to see him and John Wall, um, together again before they decide what they want to do with that team.
00:27:04
A Drew holiday, obviously.
00:27:05
You know, going back to all the you know, the Nets chatter.
00:27:08
People were talking about Drew holiday defensively and him possibly joining the Nets.
00:27:14
Um, but yeah, I don't know.
00:27:15
We'll see.
00:27:16
There's there's a couple guys that are gonna be like, there's there's like, the lower level guys and then there's, like, a higher level guys and then the top to your guys.
00:27:23
And then, uh, you know, depending on where the top guys go in the middle tier in the lower tier than they all kind of fall in the place.
00:27:30
Well, actually, the last one I'll throw because I had him on my list was Reggie Jackson, do you? What's your impression of a player like that? Who is coming off of, Ah, you know, coming off of a season there with the Clippers, obviously.
00:27:41
And really, in a situation where maybe the Clippers, they're going to be quote blowing it up in some form or fashion, even if it's just the contributing in secondary roles, he's bounced around a little bit.
00:27:51
Is he still a valuable, You know, a valuable piece that maybe just again needs to find the right spot to be a contributor on.
00:27:58
Yeah, he got traded over there, and then he got a lot of heat for Luca hitting that shot in this face, which didn't matter because they won the Siri's.
00:28:05
But like CO, I should have been Garden.
00:28:07
Lucas shouldn't have been Reggie out there.
00:28:10
Reggie is a solid player.
00:28:11
He's a tough player, scrappy player.
00:28:14
I don't know if he stays with the Clippers.
00:28:16
I know a couple of weeks back, people saying Oh, Kawai wants a new point guard or something like that and I don't know, we'll see where he lands.
00:28:24
I don't know if he stays with them, though.
00:28:25
I think it's gonna be tough.
00:28:26
I think he had kind of like a a weird fit with CO I I feel like I saw co.
00:28:31
I kind of disrespect him a couple of times or look at him sideways a couple of times last year like it was a look of Hey, buddy, you know, until, like, don't buy a house, probably rent be better for you if you're in.
00:28:43
If you're looking in our life, you're looking at the real estate market.
00:28:45
E don't know why you're on the court with me right now.
00:28:50
Mhm e don't know who let you in the gym.
00:28:54
I don't understand what I understand happened? No.
00:28:56
So listen, it is interesting, right? Like, and you go back a handful of years and Reggie Jackson's felt like a little bit of a bigger name, and it only takes a couple of trips down the road and bouncing around and ending up on a roster where a superstar player is giving you the side eye for the league collected video.
00:29:10
I wonder, um, the only the one that I'm interested about.
00:29:12
I think you guys like bird rights on them is, uh, DeAndre Fox there with the kings kind of up and down experience there, but I don't know.
00:29:20
Yeah, sorry.
00:29:21
You know, John five.
00:29:22
I think I just I think I just named a and then an actor or possibly an NBA player from 20 years ago. The point.
00:29:27
You know, I know where you're going way where we're at.
00:29:30
But he's a young Some of those young players I also think are exciting.
00:29:34
Thio to consider here off just low players to get shuffled around and maybe just need Thio learn, relearn in a new system.
00:29:41
When you have these really young rosters, at some point, they need to pivot and get this blend off.
00:29:47
Older veteran talent of a drag it to come in Just that you get some experience ahead of these young players.
00:29:52
So I wonder if you could just kind of be this ancillary piece that gets shuffled and maybe gets to revamp himself on another roster somewhere else.
00:29:59
Swiper the fox.
00:30:00
He's He's fast, He's shifty.
00:30:03
He's a dog I love anytime he plays against Lonzo Ball because they'll strike that narrative up that he always eats Lonzo balls, lunch.
00:30:12
I think he's got to get out of Sacramento.
00:30:14
Uh, they got to do something with that team.
00:30:16
They've got some talent there.
00:30:17
But I don't know what they're gonna do if they're gonna blow that team up or if they're gonna bring some veterans in.
00:30:22
But yeah, Fox could go.
00:30:23
I mean, I would love to see Fox on the Lakers.
00:30:26
Uh, go to the lake.
00:30:28
I mean, everybody's going to the Lakers, but I feel like he's got to get on a team with some other stars, some other all stars.
00:30:36
That's competitive.
00:30:37
And then he'll shine Mauritz tough.
00:30:38
It's tough to do much when you're you're you're down 20 the whole game with the Kings and if you're the king's to like young team young talent.
00:30:46
But in the Western Conference, like you see the landscape there, you've you know, you've got so many you got the Nuggets and you've got the jazz and you've got the Clippers and the Lakers and, you know, like you start piling up, you go.
00:30:57
Yeah, we're young, but we're still and you got the pelicans air coming now, you know, like we're in this mix of back end of back end of the Western Conference.
00:31:05
So at some point, the veteran aspect of it is.
00:31:08
That's what helps you move the needle on a couple of these key games of the regular season that moves you from being 1/9 or 10th seed to being an eighth or maybe even 1/7 seed.
00:31:15
So be interesting to keep an eye on them.
00:31:17
The bottom line is, man, there's a lot.
00:31:18
There's enough names out there that I just want to start to hear the action.
00:31:22
I wanna e wanna start to hear these dominos start to fall.
00:31:25
And even if it is the big piece of what the Lakers doing is Ron where Where's Rondo? Rondo moving on and where is he going to go? How do the Lakers look to supplement something? A third guard spot, even with Avery Bradley potentially returning there? And then that starts to have this trickle down and fact.
00:31:39
Obviously, you and I are keeping our eyes on the Brooklyn Nets, and if they're going to shuffle anything there, But I just need I need these pieces to start to make moves here so I can look at how some of these teams construct and then you also you also learn what they want to do this upcoming year, right? Like young teams that move on.
00:31:55
If the Kings made some moves for veteran town, you go.
00:31:58
Okay.
00:31:59
That means they want to get competitive.
00:32:00
Now they want to try to move the needle.
00:32:01
But then if you stay young, you go all right? We're gonna live with it, right? We're gonna see what happens over the next couple of seasons before we worry about really shaking up our rosters.
00:32:09
Yeah.
00:32:10
And the draft.
00:32:11
I mean, I'm forgetting about the draft.
00:32:12
The draft is coming up, like, three weeks.
00:32:15
Something like that.
00:32:16
And the draft.
00:32:18
Like, you know, last year the Grizzlies went away from Mike Conley knowing that they're going to draft John Moran like little things like that.
00:32:26
Or when the chips start to fall and you start to figure out like MBA landscape is gonna be interesting is gonna be like a little ah, little shift coming to.
00:32:36
That's it, man.
00:32:37
Until we come back in, obviously I'll be back in tomorrow morning with Matt Brooks, the church out of bounce off some of these ideas off of him.
00:32:43
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