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00:00:05
Welcome to off the record today we're gonna talk about Kobe and youth sports.
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Does everybody make sure everybody knows world champion Los Angeles Lakers? Did you guys hear about that e Daily Reminder e saw it on the squirrel.
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That was unexpected.
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But, you know, I'm glad my brother could join us. I see his hat.
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So let's move to the introductions, man.
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First we got my man Kwan a k o t r corn a k a pimp juice without corn.
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How you doing, man? That be Saturday, everybody.
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They could be back on loving the flow Loving the vibe.
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Next up, man.
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We got my man Brandon a k a otr Brandon BK Prince suits e What? I went up Happy Saturday.
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What's going on, man? Then we got my man Alex who just jumped in on us.
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And then we're joined by a special guest man.
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This is again.
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He's been on.
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Uh, this is two weeks in the road, man.
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He joined us on OTR Sports.
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This has been our brother for 30 years.
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We're trying to get him in the podcast game, so we get him on as much as we can.
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And I just look forward to drop in nuggets and kicking a lot of ass on this podcast.
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Well, look, man, we appreciate that.
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We appreciate that.
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So look, man, let's jump right into it, man. Recently.
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So the playoffs is over, you know, but Alex is reminding us who won the championship, of course, and I'm sure he'll do that each week.
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But the NBA is probably 3 65 league, right? So there's already already been some news in the NBA.
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Um, and it's been pertaining to some coaches and higher.
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So we wanted to get into that.
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I want to get you guys opinion on some of the new coaches that were, um That would hire recently.
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So look, I'm gonna be honest with you this first.
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This first name I'm about to do out there, I'm gonna need some help pronouncing this dude's name but the paper.
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But the Pacers.
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Well, let's start with the Pacers.
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The Pacers hired.
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I know his first name.
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You'll help me with the last name Pacers hired the assistant from the legal system from the Toronto Raptors.
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Jordan, hey, is on the job, right.
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Being silent.
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Okay, Jordan in Georgia, George, don't even think I'm pronouncing it. Right.
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So we're gonna call him Nate BJ.
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Okay.
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Uh, well, Georgia, Georgia and okay, we'll call them that.
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So this is probably, I guess the not, you know, not the most.
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The ***iest pick, I guess of the higher so far.
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So I don't know what you guys know about this dude of anything, but, um, he's highly highly recommended by Nick Nurse, who is a championship coach.
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Um, he's been his lead assistant for a while now.
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So what do you guys feel about the patients going this route? I mean, I know there were some big names that were thrown out there.
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There were even some unexpected names.
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Um, that the pace that it looked like the Pacers might go that route. I know.
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It was There was talks of, you know, even Becky Hammon being in the running.
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Um, So what do you guys think about this pick? Um, yeah, right, Basically.
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But no thing about he's from the Toronto um, tree.
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Uh, Nick Nurses.
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Incredible coach, Coach of the year champion Coach.
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Ah, longtime assistant to Dwayne Casey.
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And once he sat in that big seat, he parlayed that leverage that to an incredible season last year and then Coach of the Year this year.
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So it fits the par for the course for the MBA to real copycat league.
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It's very tough to think outside the box as much of the MBA wants to be so progressive and all this and all that.
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In general, the billionaires pick coaches who they know they don't really straight too far out and go off the limb.
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And I'm sure down the line we'll talk about what the Brooklyn Nets did and how they actually did go a little off reservation.
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But this guy, I mean, you know, Indiana is a small market team, so this guy probably gets a 34 year deal.
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Doesn't have to get paid that much.
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And, of course, we know.
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With India losing hundreds of millions this year, a teams, especially small market teams, aren't spend a lot of money on coaches.
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So why not, You know, mhm.
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I agree. I agree.
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Small market area, small market team.
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Uh, they don't really have the expectations of winning anything big as of right now, So they have the chance, and, you know they have the opportunity to be in the rebuilding stage.
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This guy comes from the tree of, you know, the Toronto Raptors.
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They became a winning or went in the organization.
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And so I mean, pretty much let's see what you can dio.
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I mean, it's not gonna hurt.
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It's not gonna help.
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Well, why not gonna say that? We'll see.
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We'll see if it's gonna help because, like I said, he comes from the came from that organization from from the rafters and like you said, it's a copycat league, so they may want to, you know, from what it looks like they want some type of organization, or they want some type of coach to come in.
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And that's gonna bring some type of winning attitude to that to that team.
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So only time will tell.
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Wait, what do you think about the movie? I mean, I don't I don't know much about the guy, Really.
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I mean, his assistant coaching resume is solid.
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Um, but I think that's just kind of like the trend, like in an MBA.
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And I mean, even in NFL, like bringing in a guy who's not particularly on anybody else's radar.
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Um, looking for, you know, like a fresh start.
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Um e because as you alluded to it, I mean, there's a lot of a lot of other coaches out there is just like, all right, how many more chances we're going to give these people? You know, um, they might hold us over, Whereas you go with this guy who may not be, you know, on everybody else's radar.
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He could be the one thio to build up the team.
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Teoh, I don't know to get them where they wanna go.
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I mean, you look Nick nurse, um ****.
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Uh, who who the hell knew Knew who Nick nurse was before he was in, You know, in Toronto.
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I mean, I don't know.
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It just I don't know too much about the guy.
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Let's see what he does.
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But I do think this is one of those Hey, you know, we need a We need a voice that folks aren't tired of in the locker room.
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Somebody knew somebody with energy.
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Hey, probably knows his exes and oh's see what he's got.
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Yeah.
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So? So, Alex, you know, you are a resident MBA insider.
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Eso what do you What do you think about this? Move where you surprised at it? I know D'Antoni was mentioned for this position.
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Andi.
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It looked like he had it all locked up.
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It looked like they were gonna go that he was gonna go that route, that the Pacers would go that route.
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So what do you think about this move? I mean, oftentimes see, So just kind of three breads and so it Zisis, you do.
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We never really heard about Jen opportunity.
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I mean, look, man.
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Ah, lot of people didn't want Frank Vogel to get another opportunity with Los Angeles, and then it ended up in the championship.
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You got to hear end up in a championship.
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The liquor.
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Okay, you've got their debt.
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So I mean, like, it's it's nice to It's nice to hear these guys that we don't know about the opportunity.
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That's it.
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I did think D'Antoni was gonna be God, But let's also call what is man the NBA this season going to take a dip and and money somewhere around, uh, I believe 100 million, Possibly a billion dollars in lost revenue.
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They'll make that money long term.
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That's not so much of an issue.
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But when you're talking about small market teams, E, let's just let's just call it what it is.
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The Pacers ever gonna attract the big name.
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Probably not, right.
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So why not give this guy a shot? I mean, their two best players of Malcolm Brogdon and Victor Oladipo and Oladipo Um, he's got when you left on his deal.
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So if you decide toe bounce next season, like what long term established coach is gonna come in there and your best player leaves next year and then what is Indiana? So give the guy shot.
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If it works out great, I mean, Indiana had no expectations at best.
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They make it to the second stick around.
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That's a win for a team like Indiana.
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No one expects them to compete for a championship.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I mean, I think you all touched on it.
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I think you know it's time to see some new faces in the league, Man.
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Um, I don't know if you guys think on, and I'll ask you this question quickly and y'all could chime in.
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It seems like the re tread situation with the coaches.
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It seems like it's not as bad in the NBA as it is in the NFL.
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I could be wrong.
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It seems like you may see an MBA.
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Um, like the Nick nurses and the guys that Steve Kurds, those guys who want the Steve Nashes, who didn't have any coaching experience getting jobs.
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We keep seeing in the N B in the NFL, the Mike McCarthy's and and these guys keep getting jobs and then high profile job.
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So that would I see you.
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It's on the edge of this one.
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What do you think, man e? I wasn't it.
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And I got poison ivy on my hand.
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Um No, no.
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Here's a couple of things.
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Member NFL old money you're talking.
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The Chicago beer has been out forever.
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Philadelphia Eagles forever.
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Washington red football, Whatever you call them. Been out forever.
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So a lot of old money, their, um their owners probably averaging age 55 6 years old, Mbah a little bit younger ownerships.
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Um, so they actually and and a lot of the NBA guys, our tech guys.
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So they actually do give a better chance of trying new things, but they do a lot of re treads in the N.
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B.
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A.
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I know we're gonna talk on Stan Van Gundy and his terrible higher from New Orleans soon.
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Um, Alvin Gentry.
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Doc Rivers gets a job every two weeks.
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Um, it's just it's so comfortable to be safe.
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And I get it.
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If you was a billionaire, I would play it safe to possibly.
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But it's the NFL is old money, so they just recycle the same bums literally.
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The same bums get jobs.
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It doesn't even matter.
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So you know im you jumped ahead one.
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But I'm gonna start with that.
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The one you just mentioned.
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Um, this this might be of the hires.
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This might be the most surprising.
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Maybe to me, it is, uh, stay.
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Van Gundy was hired to lead the young New Orleans pelicans.
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I mean, listen, they got a bunch of bunch of talent down there, man.
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So what do you guys think about this fit, man? Let's start.
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I'm gonna start with you, and I'm gonna throw it back to you.
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You kinda You kinda mentioned how you feel about it.
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But, um, let me.
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So let me ask you this question.
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Why don't you think this? Why don't you think this is a good fit? I think Stan Van Gundy is actually a really nice guy.
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It's like Ron Rivera.
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I mean, they're really nice guys.
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I would probably get a cup of coffee with them.
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You know, I think they're really good as an everyday coach.
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And the grind, you understand when you're talking about 82 games, 67 months.
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I mean, these guys grind of, they grind out, man, and that's why a great coach like Phil Jackson can't do anymore.
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And you see guys like Popovich like Tim Duncan.
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You coach tonight cause I'm just tired.
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I'm 69 years old.
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I'm tired standing, standing.
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Let's look over his last four years.
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Okay, let's look over his last four years in Detroit, where he had total.
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Okay, I'm talking about total power.
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Can you imagine having total power If you're married, have a girlfriend.
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We know we don't have total power, so imagine having total power.
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You win.
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Let's go back.
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Say you win 32 games.
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44 games, 37 games, 39 games and you get guess how many playoff wins you have? I mean, just guys, these guys were actually.
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Let me ask you this.
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Daequan.
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How many playoff wins did you have last year? Okay, and that's how many Stan Van Gundy head after four years. Guys.
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Three guys.
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A panicky, sweaty disaster.
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He's a master mechanic, as the great Shaquille O Neal said, but he's a really nice guy, and he's a solid commentator.
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I actually know his brother's terrible, so he gets the mute button, but standing see, it's okay to listen to, huh? Jeff? Jeff Jeff.
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Jeff Van Gundy.
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He you know he should have something.
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Raising the Raptors at the Garden, you know? You know what? This reminds me off.
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This'll whole higher like.
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And just like you said, he's a nice guy.
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Okay? He's a beautiful guy, Really cool.
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You know, he has some type of flair when it comes to his interviews, right? I've seen him, and he kind of seems like he's a guy that he just kind of speaks from the cuff.
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He doesn't really hold anything.
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You know, he just says what he feels right.
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But to me, it kind of feels as if this was this is this is this goes back to this goes back to when he was coaching with the magic and when he had Dwight Howard, Young Dwight, our you know, he was kind of somewhat tryingto, you know, I mean, they were They were a playoff team at the time.
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They were young team coming up.
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And so now it seems as if, like they're trying to put him in the position with Zion.
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Now you have the young center, you know, you got you got a young squad.
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You got a young team that z I want to say what I wanna say. Up and coming.
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But you have some.
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You have some talent pieces.
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Really nice.
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You have a few pieces that let me be the voice of reason.
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Oh, I'm e I was just I was just gonna say that.
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That's what it feels like.
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That's the only thing it feels like to me is that is just the whole redo process off when he was with the when he was with Orlando.
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That's That's what it feels like to me.
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I don't really see them.
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I don't want to see them doing anything.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, mhm.
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Listen, listen, listen.
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I think the Stan Van Gundy higher is actually a really good for New Orleans source off.
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Let's go back this time in Miami like I think I'm wrong.
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I'll do in Miami.
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You know, I think you got five years because Pat Riley saw an opportunity for him to get an extra ring.
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That's number one number two, I think when you're looking at Orlando, the Orlando team over TV man like that Orlando team did really well during a time when Kobe was in his prime and LeBron was doing his thing.
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They beat LeBron and oh, by the way, ran into my ship.
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Agent Bleeker's okay, it's like staying band got wrong there.
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Then you look into Detroit and let's just be honest, did anyone believe that Blake Griffin and Andre Drummond and Reduction was gonna leave Detroit to anything like a well but voice of reason? Voice of reason.
00:18:32
They made a major trade for for Blake.
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They should have at least been able to get out the first round.
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He was a team president.
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He signed Blake Griffin E.
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He should get Blake Griffin 1013.
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Q b.
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It doesn't matter.
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He waas 20 power.
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I don't understand how he gets a pass for having total power and no way a bad coach okay for, like that overachieve.
00:19:07
You don't think that Orlando team over achieved? They know they were pretty.
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They came, They showed out.
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They had they had.
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I mean, how would they had tremendous a finals? Yeah, they did something.
00:19:20
They played out.
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And then I guess everything exploded, you know, exploded when you know everything came out with Dwight Howard thrown shot.
00:19:27
No fan.
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But I mean a shock.
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Fans don't even mention that guy.
00:19:35
Well, yes, but he also want to be in Orlando because Dwight Howard, like Stan Van Gundy, being a master of panic, sweaty, sweaty punk.
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That's what he is.
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A.
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He's a nice guy.
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E stand and look.
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He's like he's a very knowledgeable guy, a basketball for New Orleans to get better.
00:19:58
Obviously, they they are young, and youth does not typically win in the MBA.
00:20:02
So for them to get better, they need somebody there who will coach them.
00:20:07
If there's anything that Stan Van Gundy will do, regardless of whatever the result is at the end of this, he he is going to try to coach them on the fundamentals of basketball I posted.
00:20:16
Look, I didn't look Stan Van Gunny.
00:20:18
He's got skills himself.
00:20:20
I posted a clip on Twitter and him doing that little crossover thing like, Yeah, I didn't know he had that in him, But I mean, but he stands at Dundee.
00:20:28
I mean, just the Van Gundy's in general, these air guys that that have been around basketball for a very long time.
00:20:35
Van Gundy still has energy.
00:20:39
Um, and so I think that is gonna take a lot of energy, is gonna take a lot of knowledge to get the pelicans to the next step.
00:20:49
Now, overall, if you want to talk about because this this is This is the bottom line lead.
00:20:54
You know we want W's.
00:20:57
I think Van Gundy will make the Pelicans a better team, but I don't know how much better like this.
00:21:06
I think Alvin Gentry is a decent coach.
00:21:09
He always gets jobs, though, where he's got to come in and he's got to coach the young guys.
00:21:13
He had it in Phoenix.
00:21:14
He's got to coach the young guys and they bring them over the Republicans.
00:21:17
He's got to coach the young guys like I think he but he coaches those pieces up standing on a professional coach.
00:21:29
No, he's a professional coach and he's not a bad guy.
00:21:32
So it's almost like I think, people taking I'm not dissing him.
00:21:36
I'm not dissing him. He's a really nice guy.
00:21:38
He's gonna really love the video.
00:21:43
He's a really nice e wasn't this, and I'm just saying this is another re tread.
00:21:50
Ho hum higher.
00:21:52
He's a professional coach, though.
00:21:54
He's like Ron Rivera for the what my e What they do, they do because they're gonna have to Max players and they had a detention cell on New Orleans.
00:22:07
But if they don't have expectations, then Why not hire someone like Oh, that feels good.
00:22:13
Go ahead, go ahead.
00:22:16
They don't have any expectations.
00:22:19
The longest.
00:22:20
The Lakers on the Lakers. The Clippers on the Clippers. Defer.
00:22:22
Defer the Warriors about like they had.
00:22:25
No expectation, man, they're not.
00:22:28
Uh huh.
00:22:30
Maybe get into the playoffs.
00:22:31
But then you get inside and you get ran out by the Lakers Clippers of Denver.
00:22:35
What expectations do they really? Four years away, they were years away.
00:22:40
Not 13 to 4 to 3 to 4 years from, like 3 to 4 years.
00:22:45
From what? Making the playoffs? Yeah, like the bar shin.
00:22:48
And be that low and education.
00:22:51
I agree.
00:22:52
And if they don't have expectations, that why not hire someone that you can look at me? Look at Minnesota car time founded an all Star, but no, no.
00:23:01
See, you have a point.
00:23:03
You have a valid you have.
00:23:04
You have a he's not like What are we doing? But if they don't have expectation that, why not hire someone like Indiana did? If that's your bar, why hire a 70 year old swing E? It's a process because e think more of it because it's a bigger market.
00:23:23
Just like we talked about it.
00:23:24
Like Indiana Small Market, New Orleans.
00:23:26
Bigger market.
00:23:27
You guys sign Williams saying he was the first pick.
00:23:30
You know, you have a lot going with that.
00:23:32
So, you know, you gotta You gotta take that someone into consideration, Okay? So let me just let me jump in here real quick.
00:23:39
You learn the expectations, huh? Well, let me just say this part.
00:23:46
Now. Occupy it.
00:23:47
The expectations should be not losing your superstar in law.
00:23:50
Chris.
00:23:51
Paul. They lost Anthony Davis. Expectations be not.
00:23:53
How would you have a for the win championship? That's people there with.
00:24:02
Could they could they? Could the higher be coach? Could the higher be based off brand could the higher be based off of what they seen standing ain't gonna do with a young Dwight Howard That's on said That's what kwon said earlier.
00:24:17
And that was 15 years ago.
00:24:19
So I don't know how much that even gets played.
00:24:22
E mean then and then, you know, what did you do with Dwight Howard? He left like Hollande just said okay, But I mean, play for a sweaty meeting.
00:24:31
You know that that team didn't I mean, sometimes things just go.
00:24:35
Sometimes things just go bad.
00:24:37
Go ahead. My, my bad.
00:24:39
But it was Orlando like shock last along.
00:24:42
A Why did Pat Riley say small? In Orlando? We owe airport in America.
00:24:52
They do offend Thio, right? So that's 23 times that People have said that it's better than I did the Racist city.
00:25:02
Yeah, I mean, come on, I wouldn't call it faces Sick Who? Hey, Parker.
00:25:07
Who? Who? What other coaches? Eso Let me let me let me say this right quick and I wanna shout out out guy Brian, who's who's part of the ball, is left podcast on a crossover media.
00:25:19
He said SPG will place an actual defensive system in place, and I mean, like, like I said in the opening, you know, we know New Orleans has some talent and they, you know, they showed that they could make some noise a young, So maybe the higher was based off of getting somebody in there a little older that can get a hold of this team.
00:25:41
Wouldn't let them just run wild.
00:25:44
Give him some structure, especially on the defensive end.
00:25:47
E no, it's he's a professional coach.
00:25:51
He's been around.
00:25:52
He's been around forever.
00:25:55
Why not Nate McMillan, though, who's actually won a playoff game in the last 50 years? Think how too much, Too much.
00:26:03
I mean, like, you know, I think this is how I know this is serious.
00:26:08
If New Orleans in a right angle, was up for a Max extension, if New Orleans lets him walk, they're not seriously competing there.
00:26:16
All right, so it doesn't matter who they were brought in.
00:26:17
As a coach, they're not. There isn't spending money.
00:26:19
That's a good point.
00:26:20
And that's what it boils down to.
00:26:21
Are you willing to go into the tax to produce a championship team? When they got they got when they got Ingram coming up, they got so coming up after that, then they got Zion.
00:26:33
They're going to spend some money.
00:26:34
And I know Georgia Benson, who is the Saints owner.
00:26:37
Uh, she's terrible, too, but you know, you have a day.
00:26:42
Let's see if she lets see if she was the Don't go up Well said, I'll be honest.
00:26:52
I didn't expect Yeah, yeah.
00:26:57
SPG sparked a heated debate.
00:27:00
Right? Be honest.
00:27:01
I did that coming either.
00:27:02
I didn't expect the SPG conversation to go a Sfar as it did, but hey, good. Whatever.
00:27:08
So and I'm glad I skipped to it What I did because I was actually going to go to this higher first, which I think is the least surprising higher of the three.
00:27:18
We have Ty Lue.
00:27:20
I'm signing with the Clippers to take over that team.
00:27:24
Of course we know.
00:27:25
Hey, and Brian's in here.
00:27:27
Brian is Ah, clip fan.
00:27:29
So I'm glad he's in here.
00:27:30
I hope he you know, he makes it a clippers fan.
00:27:34
S o I mean, Brian, I would like, you know, if you could put in the chat box your thoughts on the higher, but fellas, Ty Lue taking over the Clippers, he was already there.
00:27:46
He was an assistant s.
00:27:48
I'm gonna start.
00:27:50
I'm gonna start with you be This was a great a great time.
00:27:54
I think it was.
00:27:55
I think it was a great hire for the Clippers.
00:27:58
Um, he's already been there.
00:28:00
He's got the experience to me.
00:28:02
He's got the pedigree.
00:28:03
He's got the ability to relate to the players.
00:28:05
He's got the basketball knowledge again.
00:28:08
He's already been there.
00:28:09
I think I think part of? Well, I'll leave it at that.
00:28:15
But, I mean, I think the Clippers are going to be just as good, if not if not better, next year.
00:28:23
I think this was I think this was a great hire man.
00:28:28
Um, yeah, I'm sorry.
00:28:30
Um ah.
00:28:31
1000% huge Ty Lue fan.
00:28:34
I remember when he had the straight back and the old one finals when Iverson stepped over him.
00:28:38
A sad day and Laker Lord, but we got over.
00:28:41
Um, you gotta once again the thing about Doc and doctors.
00:28:47
Okay, Coach, He's good.
00:28:48
He's a championship coach.
00:28:49
Whatever that means.
00:28:51
Um, I think he plays more golf than he grinds, though.
00:28:56
And once again, this is a grind.
00:28:59
You gotta be at this job, like, 10 12 hours a day.
00:29:03
You gotta basically want to die on that **** court.
00:29:06
These coaches are crazy.
00:29:08
Okay, Tyler, who has the energy? He has the championship expertise.
00:29:13
He knows that the clippers need a point guard.
00:29:15
The roach.
00:29:16
I mean, Pat Beverley is just not it.
00:29:18
Um, so it's a slam dunk higher.
00:29:24
He works for the richest owner, so the money is gonna be good.
00:29:26
He's gonna get whatever he needs.
00:29:29
It's a slam dunk here in L. A.
00:29:31
Hey, wasn't ever going to Houston E just I think part of Doc Rivers moving on was was to allow Tyronn Lue toe have this chance almost like, you know, a Ty Lue probably deserved to have a head coaching job before he became the assistant coach of the Clippers on And, you know, hey, other coaches have been set up for for these type of hires before.
00:30:00
Now Doc Rivers is kind of doing that for for his own.
00:30:05
However, you want to define that and I think him walking away part of that is knowing that Tyronn Lue he's gonna be able t o you know, take this team going forward.
00:30:15
I respect that Zatz What good winners do? They should be doing stuff like that.
00:30:20
But Doc also was playing 36 holes of golf a day.
00:30:24
I e just put off has a lot of good golf courses, So let me let me let me let me quote getting here quote.
00:30:34
What do you What do you think of the Thai Lou hired man for the Clippers? It's a great it's a I think It's a great opportunity for I'm happy for him.
00:30:41
I think, except, you know, he's came into the league.
00:30:45
He used to like that.
00:30:46
Who said he played in the league when he had straight backs and, you know, obviously over him.
00:30:52
I remember that, Alex.
00:30:53
I was at your house watching the playoffs that night, you know, and to see where he's came to see where he's going now.
00:31:01
I think it's, I think it's great.
00:31:02
You know, he knows the system.
00:31:04
He knows the players, you know.
00:31:06
Nothing was ever given to him like you see a lot of coaches that coming out in out the league, you know, e he's earned his stripes, you know? So I think it's I think it's great.
00:31:17
I think it's a good opportunity for him.
00:31:19
And like I said, he knows the system knows the players and kudos to Doc Rivers, man, if that was the case, you know, to walk away from it and to let that man have ah, you know, opportunity Thio, you know, win a championship or attempt to win a championship.
00:31:34
Hey, man, I'm all for it.
00:31:36
I'm all for it.
00:31:37
Great. Higher.
00:31:38
So, Alex, I kept you last, man.
00:31:42
Because this is your cross town rival.
00:31:44
Um, there wasn't.
00:31:46
There was a thought that I would get the Lakers job before Vogel did.
00:31:50
What do you think about this? Higher man does this does this does this scary? Does it scare you at all? I mean, he is a good coach.
00:31:58
He is a championship coach.
00:31:59
Does this? Does this scare you at all? Which a cross town rival? What? Do your overall thoughts about the higher man? Yeah.
00:32:11
Doesn't scare me.
00:32:12
Way of 17 championships.
00:32:14
2% No.
00:32:16
Made out in second round. Carrie.
00:32:18
Oh, let me explain something, Thio.
00:32:23
Doc Rivers is overrated.
00:32:24
Alright? And that's conversation for another show.
00:32:26
All right, I understand.
00:32:28
Everybody's, you know, giving them a school whatsoever.
00:32:30
Listen, the Clippers are the Clippers got the Bryant, and he hopes, clips that his credential Clippers rider um, he's my guy.
00:32:39
Um but the Clippers are the Clippers.
00:32:41
They will always be not second, not three, not four, but have always been the very bottom when it comes to L.
00:32:48
A sports behind the Dodgers behind the sparks e behind everybody in l.
00:32:52
A man like I don't care How much money? Bummer.
00:32:55
Heads.
00:32:56
The Clippers are just They suck, man A and Tyler.
00:33:02
I'm glad he got an opportunity.
00:33:04
E think he's a really good coach.
00:33:05
I actually thought he was someone that leaders should have hired last offseason.
00:33:08
He was on my short list.
00:33:09
Got efficient.
00:33:10
Black better.
00:33:12
Obviously, I'm going to give over when out for us.
00:33:15
But I'm my Tyler.
00:33:17
Like I know some people think that he you know, because LeBron he might like he might know LeBron and have his kryptonite.
00:33:24
You good luck, E.
00:33:26
I mean, the couple is gonna cook, Man, I don't think they're gonna be better next year.
00:33:30
I don't think so.
00:33:31
I think that is good.
00:33:32
Today were this year.
00:33:33
It's gonna hurt in the West.
00:33:36
And you know, that's cute.
00:33:38
No.
00:33:39
When I'm focused on championships, not second or third player eso as he mentioned, man.
00:33:46
I'll God, Brian Man, who Who is the n b A credential? Uh, writer.
00:33:51
And he covers the clippers.
00:33:53
So shout out to him.
00:33:54
And, um and he he's the host of the clips.
00:33:59
That podcast.
00:34:00
And, of course, like I said, ball is left.
00:34:02
Co host of those podcasts can I reiterate something.
00:34:06
Shout out to him.
00:34:07
But this is Yeah. This is what he said, Ryan.
00:34:09
Thanks.
00:34:10
Tide will place a modern offensive system in place, willing to make adjustments.
00:34:13
That Doc wouldn't go.
00:34:14
What you got to say to that? I have to agree with my brother Alex.
00:34:17
Um, the Clippers.
00:34:19
I mean, I don't call them a cross town rival.
00:34:22
Like I was there when the **** Richardson Clipper days like the Darius Miles days like they're not rival.
00:34:29
They're they're nice.
00:34:31
They're not even the mets, you know.
00:34:33
I know you got the Yankees and the Mets.
00:34:35
The Mets at least, like a good sometimes, but we agreed that we agreed to MBA Was was setting it up.
00:34:43
Thio clash in L.
00:34:46
A.
00:34:47
Right.
00:34:48
I guess it was corny.
00:34:49
I never like anyone that's watched.
00:34:50
More than three years of basketball knows the Clippers Are the Clippers there? Not like it's there.
00:34:57
Come on.
00:34:58
They should pay the l A sports arena again.
00:34:59
They don't even deserted me at Staples.
00:35:00
We gotta cover their banners up like I don't whatever.
00:35:05
I'm old also also Brian believe eniac Atkinson will take over to play a development That's a great coach.
00:35:13
Great.
00:35:14
He got he got a raw deal in Brooklyn.
00:35:16
He got a raw deal, but then again, we're not behind the scenes.
00:35:19
And if the star player ain't feeling you, let me tell you something about NBA coaches.
00:35:23
They're hired to be fired.
00:35:25
I don't give a **** who you are.
00:35:27
You are hired to be fired.
00:35:29
You will be fired in three or four years.
00:35:31
It doesn't matter if the star player ain't feeling you.
00:35:34
You are out of it.
00:35:35
And that's what's gonna happen to Stan Van Gundy.
00:35:36
We opened last three years, but I could see it going left real quick.
00:35:42
Well, uh, Kenny Atkinson didn't come off as a as a.
00:35:48
I think Brooklyn needed a coach that that was open to players suggestions, I'll say rather mildly, Um, and Kenny Atkinson, you know, he's got experience is a coach.
00:36:04
Um, obviously, he did a pretty good job in Brooklyn developing those players out there.
00:36:12
So I think with other folks coming in, maybe it just it may be.
00:36:17
Just wouldn't have been a good a good fit.
00:36:21
I don't know.
00:36:23
I think Steve Nash, you know Kevin Durant, They come in the time out.
00:36:27
You know Kevin Durant, then running the running, the huddle or whatever.
00:36:29
Steve Nash, you know, just like yeah, yeah.
00:36:31
You know, when you come off that pick do that whereas Kenya Carson probably like, Hey, I'm the coach.
00:36:36
Your player? A I'm sorry, Brian.
00:36:41
Making some really good points here.
00:36:42
Um, yeah, it essentially, you said players suggestion because Kyrie a said we're gonna take turns because we don't really need coach.
00:36:54
You don't see it as having a coach a player suggestions that just delicious.
00:36:59
Yeah, it's like it's like a you know, the whole cliche about the locker room, the huddle like you have thio regardless of everybody's ability to do whatever role that they're playing you have, you're dealing with people.
00:37:14
You have to be able to mesh personalities.
00:37:18
And so, yeah, a job that's the job is mentioned personalities and actually listening and and not, you know, my way or the highway types.
00:37:32
I mean, the Bobby Knight days of coaching the John Thompson days, the Jim Boeheim days them ****s is over.
00:37:39
Dog e s.
00:37:43
So I mean perfect segue way talking about the next man.
00:37:47
Listen, it's not it's not often you hear much media coverage or much hubbub over an assistant coach Higher.
00:37:55
So I want to throw this to on the screen, right? I wanna get you guys opinion.
00:37:59
No.
00:38:00
So this guy right here is now eyes now.
00:38:04
Assistant coach.
00:38:06
A market started my required by Steve Nash like e a body started buying.
00:38:18
Was hired by Steve Nash as a zone assistant coach man, now way.
00:38:28
All know a bar started mind takes hey, takes red wine baths, and this is on.
00:38:36
Maybe he will maybe maybe he will put weight in the bad blood.
00:38:41
Uh, maybe he will put Katie in Kyrie onto this This practice, man.
00:38:47
So, uh, what do you guys think? Maher Stoudemire, Man getting a shot to be an assistant coach.
00:38:54
Man going to start with you Bring a za player I'm gonna marry.
00:39:02
Started my fan.
00:39:04
I uh huh.
00:39:08
I don't know.
00:39:09
I I don't know.
00:39:10
Well, I did say, you know, you got national Amara Stoudemire's so one thing that they will be teaching and practice is the pick and roll.
00:39:16
And I think the two man game with Kyrie and K D uh, if you can, you know manipulate the game to where it's down late.
00:39:24
And, uh, you know, you're running the two men with Kyrie and K D pick and roll having they ran it in, You know, in Phoenix that's pretty deli.
00:39:34
Because, you know, Katie control if the hedge defender, you know, steps up, they got to step up the Kyrie.
00:39:40
Otherwise, you're gonna give a three point shot and they step up. You got to switch off.
00:39:44
You got Katie on a mismatch.
00:39:46
They I think that's what that's what they're gonna go to.
00:39:51
They gonna perfect that.
00:39:53
It's gonna be hard to stop, but I don't know.
00:39:59
That's if they ever, ever get the plan together.
00:40:02
I'm a Knicks fan, so I I don't really want to say too many positive things about the next right now.
00:40:09
What do you think, Juan? About a Murray and his wine bass, You know, getting a shot of being assistant coach, man, I didn't know he took red wine.
00:40:21
*******.
00:40:25
E mean yeah, Zed.
00:40:28
Wanna let the bathroom read one? It's the guy in the shirt looking at him.
00:40:32
It's like creeping me out.
00:40:34
Well, being well, I take that still is there.
00:40:37
Don't you e still reserved E man actually being interviewed in this picture.
00:40:48
That's why the guy is there.
00:40:49
But yeah, you can read up about it, man.
00:40:52
He said he said his health benefits and all of that.
00:40:55
Okay, great.
00:40:56
Taking red wine bath.
00:40:57
So Okay. All right.
00:40:59
Cool. Alright.
00:41:00
Um, yo, e, I don't Yeah, I'm with I don't I don't know if it's gonna be.
00:41:07
I mean, I don't know, man.
00:41:08
I don't really know what to say about that.
00:41:10
Like, I'm a firm believer, and I'm a firm advocate.
00:41:15
And people, whatever opportunities you get, you know, you take it and run with it, and you know, it can come from anywhere.
00:41:23
So I mean, shout out to Steve Nash for providing my stock my opportunity to coach.
00:41:28
I just don't know what this ****'s gonna lead.
00:41:32
You know what I mean? I don't I mean, what are you Are you drinking the red wine? You drink water, if that's you.
00:41:42
Yeah.
00:41:43
I mean, look, coaches have some type of all coaches, whatever they do.
00:41:46
I mean, you know, someone normal, some of abnormal, You know what I mean? Whatever.
00:41:49
You know, some people may have some type of ritual, whatever they do, all right.
00:41:53
I mean, he's knowledgeable, he's played and he's played in the league, so I mean, he has some knowledge of the game, and I mean, he can help.
00:42:05
So I just don't know where this is gonna lead, though I'm just, you know, I mean, I don't I don't know what's going to transpire from from the higher, but I mean, it's a It's a great opportunity for him.
00:42:15
Let's see what happens.
00:42:16
It's gotta be the royal.
00:42:17
What is, um Are you gonna tell Cady like Katie like kid, he's a better player, So I'm not sure.
00:42:24
I don't know.
00:42:25
Sorry.
00:42:27
So what do you What do you think, man? When you think about the marketing shot? A couple of things when I was talking when I when I totally forgot about tomorrow.
00:42:34
Be honest with you.
00:42:35
But then I realized he's actually underrated.
00:42:37
Now that guy was ****ing insane when he was playing with the the seven or Seconds or less sons insane.
00:42:44
He's a six time All Star.
00:42:45
He's actually underrated.
00:42:47
But as far as the coaching things being an assistant coach is, you know, it's like levels.
00:42:52
The coaching so I don't I don't know if he should have jumped to assistant coach, maybe player development.
00:42:58
Maybe help three or four days out the week or something like that.
00:43:01
But, um, like kwon says, like it's a great opportunity.
00:43:05
Try to **** out.
00:43:06
If it don't work, you could go spending $300 million go taking wine baths and reading the Torah like whatever.
00:43:13
It's fine, Alex.
00:43:16
Man, you got anything to throw in the Mari getting this job? Loretta amongst.
00:43:25
That's when a when a black man get a job.
00:43:26
That's number one.
00:43:27
Number two.
00:43:28
We know big men often don't get coaching positions.
00:43:29
So for National, look out and get it. Get a big man.
00:43:32
Is boy a job getting the shot? Mammy, Look, I'm all for saying this works in terms of coach apart.
00:43:39
I don't know about the red line bass, but hey, Jesus did turn water into wine.
00:43:43
So who am I to criticize? Red Line.
00:43:46
But well, say this.
00:43:49
I think everyone's talking way too much often.
00:43:51
That man, I really had to play more than 60 games in the season.
00:43:54
In recent years, K D is coming off the worst possible injury that anyone could have.
00:44:00
E wanna see them guys in the corporate while I'm talking about them doing anything.
00:44:04
Thanks.
00:44:06
Fair enough.
00:44:07
Fair enough.
00:44:08
Brian makes the point again.
00:44:09
Um, he said tomorrow will reignite the Andre DeAndre Jordan and possibly help develop Jared Allen.
00:44:15
Yeah, I mean, they do have They do have some.
00:44:18
Jared Allen is a talented guy.
00:44:20
I think he'll be.
00:44:21
I think he'll be one of the guys that he should e running around with him.
00:44:26
I think he's playing.
00:44:27
He should be playing more than DeAndre Jordan, by the way, who is super watch stuff? But I think I think that I think that Jared will end up being a part of a deal because I do think the Clippers, I mean, sorry.
00:44:37
I do think the Nets going to make another move.
00:44:41
Um, get that third player.
00:44:43
You get that third player.
00:44:44
So I think he'll probably end up being out of there.
00:44:46
But if he's not man, I think you know Mark Mark can help these young guys.
00:44:51
He can.
00:44:52
He can help the Andrea's well, man. So we'll see.
00:44:54
We'll see how it goes.
00:44:56
Yeah, DeAndre, Jordan.
00:44:58
When Dallas held him captive? No.
00:45:00
The clip.
00:45:01
The Clippers held them captive with a lot to the Lakers.
00:45:05
Yeah, I remember that when they locked up in the room, they would Would you hold that guy? Captain E.
00:45:14
I'm not sure.
00:45:15
What? What? Amar Ikan.
00:45:17
I mean, I don't know.
00:45:18
I don't I'm not sure what American Comptel DeAndre Jordan either.
00:45:21
I mean, the DeAndre Jordan's a vet.
00:45:22
He on his way.
00:45:24
He on his way out like he was a better defensive player Interior defensive player than Nomar Iwas.
00:45:32
He's a good runner to Yeah, he's a good remember.
00:45:37
And so I mean, so it was a mark.
00:45:38
I don't know.
00:45:40
I mean, Jared Allen.
00:45:41
I could definitely see him helping out Jared Allen's game.
00:45:44
And maybe maybe that's that's where that I mean, they already kind of run the pick and roll with him, but maybe a martikan sharpen him up there.
00:45:51
Um, I think Brian's point, I think that, you know, maybe a Mario light a fire under DeAndre again.
00:45:57
You're going coming into a season where if if you know, it's it's a big if.
00:46:04
But coming into a season where if k d is healthy and Kyrie is healthy.
00:46:10
They have a good cord, man.
00:46:12
So maybe this is, you know, maybe this will be what will like that fire under D. J again.
00:46:18
And you can get you know, that good 13 rebounds a game, you know, good.
00:46:24
Four or five dunks again.
00:46:26
That's and that's all you're asking for, high man.
00:46:31
I'm I agree with Alex, So I'm kind of interested in seeing the nets.
00:46:35
Like I got some question marks.
00:46:38
They got some killers.
00:46:40
I'm glad.
00:46:42
I'm glad you're on the East Coast, so we get to see a lot of Well, they gotta play first.
00:46:46
They haven't played together.
00:46:47
Yeah, that's the big.
00:46:49
That's a good start, but I e said this before we move on.
00:46:55
I'm glad to see it, man.
00:46:56
And you know what? Nash took a little bit of, ah, backlash because of the higher, um, you know, for for numerous reasons.
00:47:04
But ah, lot of it was because he didn't have any coaching hire, uh, coaching experience and then tow higher his his guy, who they did some things together on the court who also doesn't have coaching experience.
00:47:17
I think it was a ballsy move.
00:47:18
I like to see it, man.
00:47:20
So, kudos to him.
00:47:21
Well, I'm kind of reiterate.
00:47:24
I'm No, I'm talking so much, but because I have a lot to say and I sound good.
00:47:27
So check this out.
00:47:28
The thing about it, when we talked earlier about a free trade cycle in the NFL.
00:47:33
Old money.
00:47:34
Uh, NBA, you have a lot of retrace because they're older, but there's still a little bit more progressive.
00:47:40
You gotta understand, Alex.
00:47:42
Who is the owner of the Nets? Yes, I was just outside now, right? Who started Alibaba, right? Yeah, eso Right now, once again, we're thinking about owners.
00:48:02
These guys air These guys are a little bit younger, not per se an age, but thought patterns.
00:48:08
So he's thinking, Let me try Steve Nash.
00:48:10
So it all kind of falls into place of thes owners trying new things.
00:48:15
And if it works, it works.
00:48:16
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
00:48:17
But that's the life, right? The life is you don't really become a billionaire not trying ****, right? Eso Yeah. Thank you.
00:48:27
Okay, So before we move from the n b a man, I'm still there are still two vacancies so quickly.
00:48:33
Quickly.
00:48:34
Guys who do you see a za good fits for the Houston job, and then the Okay, see, job is open.
00:48:41
I know that there's been talks off stands, Brother, Uh, the other Van Gundy, The more popular Van Gundy Aziz being a possibility for Houston.
00:48:53
But then you also have names like, uh, Sam Cassell and and other guys like that.
00:48:59
So who would you like to see? Who would you like to see in Houston? And who would you? Who do you think would be a good fit for? Okay, *****.
00:49:10
Well, who's available? E.
00:49:12
You mentioned Castle? Who are the other coaches that are available? E a good question.
00:49:17
I mean, e a to this point.
00:49:23
Well, well, yeah.
00:49:25
Okay.
00:49:27
See, I e uh, the job.
00:49:30
Jesus.
00:49:31
How many? You have to be an assistant coach, and I would like to see Cassell get one of those jobs.
00:49:37
Yeah, I'll say that.
00:49:40
Listen, let me tell you what nobody else is gonna say, All right? Empathy Is the Brooks owner in the N B A.
00:49:47
If I was any black head coach candidate, I would be leery about taking that job in Houston.
00:49:55
It's just a reality, man.
00:49:56
Like pretty dicey.
00:49:59
He got rid of more who has been an excellent GM.
00:50:02
He got rid of Antoni, who has been an excellent head coach.
00:50:05
Like if your first time head coach, like maybe I could sell, Do you want? You could be ever first job with Tito, who's got money problems and all his other businesses.
00:50:14
I don't know if I want that.
00:50:15
I don't know, man and firm or you heard it here, man.
00:50:19
What's wrong, Harden? One of them and I both are gonna be gone within the next year from Houston.
00:50:23
Mark my words, E.
00:50:27
I totally agree.
00:50:29
I wouldn't want to that that wouldn't be my ideal coaching situation, but as a person who as a coach who's looking to prove himself and take that next step and get an opportunity, your temporary I mean, yeah, you've got you've got one of your superstars are probably gonna be gone.
00:50:47
But while he's there, you start winning some games.
00:50:51
You know, you start coaching for your next gig, I guess at least something he deserved, he deserves a look.
00:50:59
Yeah, well, the question is, if if if it if for Tina things that this is the championship roster and everybody with a brain knows that they're not gonna win. Check.
00:51:08
Appreciate it.
00:51:09
That's the expectation in Houston.
00:51:10
Then any coach that comes in is already gonna be on the hot seat.
00:51:13
And if your first time black coach, we know black coaches don't always get second opportunities.
00:51:19
Yeah, so, like, uh, they don't always get I always get the gig with James Harden coming in, though.
00:51:26
Usually.
00:51:27
Usually we've already got the slate has been cleaned.
00:51:30
Then they bring us in.
00:51:31
The slate hasn't been clean, so he still got hard.
00:51:35
So if it was used to get in now e o everything else know how I agree with you with It's not.
00:51:46
It's not an ideal situation The way that you just outlined it, it's not.
00:51:52
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
00:51:53
That's what I was saying, man.
00:51:54
Okay, See, I think would be a better fit for him because it seems like it's a little bit more in line with Houston.
00:52:00
Um, just a lot of things that are going on, just like you said, You know, they have superstars.
00:52:05
I mean, coming in and out now, this'll owner has issues, you know, money, money issues.
00:52:10
Um, a swell as things going on with his businesses.
00:52:14
Hey.
00:52:15
****.
00:52:16
Look, you don't want that on your head right now.
00:52:17
You just wanna come in.
00:52:18
You just want to kind of come in almost a coach.
00:52:19
You wanna be an ideal situation, but you don't wanna have the carpet, you know, flowing from under your feet a soon as you get there.
00:52:27
You know, you kind of want to get some timeto get acclimated with the system.
00:52:31
And I think Castle, I think he deserves that.
00:52:34
We just We've all agreed that he's been in the league.
00:52:36
He you know, he hasn't really had the opportunities as other coaches, so I mean, I think that would be ideo ideal fit for him.
00:52:45
What about you yet? E think they did hire G m e? Uh, I agree with Mr Battle like, Okay.
00:53:01
See, from a, uh, expectation level.
00:53:04
And like you said, as a first year head coach, you actually do want to, like, learn this **** and, like, get your feet wet, make a couple mistakes going to 34 game losing streak.
00:53:13
Figure this out or that guy I need this you need like it's a process and okay, see, is a wack city.
00:53:21
I never been, but I've heard.
00:53:22
But, you know, they got a lot of draft picks.
00:53:25
Why not? You know, I don't I don't know.
00:53:29
Houston's is ***ier, like destination, but like like Alex said, I mean, you one you one week away from not getting a paycheck as a head coach, So be careful.
00:53:42
Way all know, how will he gets when he don't get his paycheck? E I I've been wanting Console to get a job for a minute.
00:53:57
I don't know what's taking so long, man.
00:53:59
Like what? Typically the first thing that I think because this happened to Ewing as well.
00:54:04
You know, long time assistance, Uh, good players, you know, they're you know, they're good, solid coaches because the players that they work with speak well about him, the highly of them.
00:54:15
So the first thing I think of is like, maybe they're just bad interviewers.
00:54:19
Or maybe they just aren't going to come in and be that lap lap dog, so to speak.
00:54:26
I said, Doug, because that's what Sam Cassell probably would have said, saying from East Side Dunbar, represent, maybe, you know, maybe saying isn't just gonna take a job where he's gonna be the lamed up.
00:54:40
So maybe that's also maybe that's also holding him back as well.
00:54:44
But I feel like both of these.
00:54:46
I feel like, Man, both of these jobs aren't the greatest.
00:54:51
I feel like they are the most ideal.
00:54:53
Houston would be great.
00:54:54
It would be a great story because he played there.
00:54:57
Ain't wanted she won a couple of chips there, Um, but then, you know, with with Tim Fertitta and just like, you know, all the points that you all made, it's it's It's a dicey situation.
00:55:07
I do think that he's going to He's going to fire self that squad eso But I didn't I do agree with you as well.
00:55:17
Brandon, If he's going to take a job, if he's gonna have hard and for a year to then you know, I guess take that one.
00:55:24
But O.
00:55:25
K.
00:55:26
C.
00:55:27
Is a places well, where you're not going to draw a big free agents, so you have to build build your team through the draft and through trade.
00:55:33
So they've done a masterful job that they've done a great job at that.
00:55:37
So I don't know, man.
00:55:40
It za tough situation.
00:55:42
I'm sure.
00:55:44
I'm sure he has a spot next to Doc or spot next.
00:55:47
Thio, uh, Ty Lue if he wants to.
00:55:50
So stay your ass in l A another year, man.
00:55:54
See what opens up action, in my opinion, because so, man, the MBA man, that took a lot longer than I thought it would weigh.
00:56:03
Love that sport, man, We're about to move on into the NFL.
00:56:07
So, Alex, did you wanna stick around to talk about the A B things I know you don't wanna know MBA is.
00:56:13
I mean, NFL isn't your thing.
00:56:15
Or did we say peace and a dude to you at this moment? Yeah.
00:56:22
Yeah, I'm just a man thing to say about that trash league.
00:56:26
Someone fellows.
00:56:27
Thanks for jumping on, man.
00:56:31
We know he was busy today.
00:56:33
Shoutout to Alex and Los Angeles Lakers championship.
00:56:38
He's going let us know that for the rest of the year, I'm pretty sure, um, but yeah, not to be all done by the by the MBA.
00:56:46
It was a couple moves, um, in the NFL.
00:56:49
Man first, The first move was obviously Levian was released by the Jets and quickly signed with the Chiefs Man and the Chiefs.
00:56:59
It's not like the Chiefs is, you know, it's not like the chiefs of Sam's Club, you know, the chiefs looking like, you know, they Wagman you already, man s.
00:57:11
So what do you guys think about this signing man like the rich get richer as they say.
00:57:18
Man, what do you think I'm gonna start with? You be, um you want to talk about the A B one or the or the levian one first, do levian and we'll go to a bi ne.
00:57:30
Yeah, the rich kid, Richard the Chiefs e don't think they necessarily, uh, need levian.
00:57:37
But I say that knowing that, um, we've seen we've seen the injury bug hit pretty much every team.
00:57:47
And I mean, players get injured every year, but this year, it just seems like depth is even more of a concern.
00:57:55
Which is why they let you know teams carry more players on their roster yada, yada, yada.
00:58:00
And I think this is kind of like in an insurance type thing for Kansas City, because cause everyone's Hillary is obviously, um, they got it right with him.
00:58:11
They got a lot of Kansas City is beginning to write a lot.
00:58:16
And e don't know Levy on his.
00:58:19
He is, um I think he's obviously gonna be a role player.
00:58:23
They've got a lot of, uh, playmakers on the offensive side of the ball.
00:58:28
So he really doesn't have Thio.
00:58:31
He doesn't have a lot of pressure on the shoulders.
00:58:32
All he got to do is stay healthy and stay focused and do its thing.
00:58:37
So ****, they're gonna be hard.
00:58:41
They already hard.
00:58:42
Todo Yeah, I mean **** in in New York, but nobody's going **** in New York.
00:58:48
So that might have been just a environment thing.
00:58:52
But I will say the last thing I will say, Let's wait and see, because now that okay, it's it's gone from Pittsburgh.
00:59:00
And then, you know, for some reason, it didn't work there, you know? It worked.
00:59:04
It worked there.
00:59:05
It worked.
00:59:06
It worked, you know, he got injured or whatever.
00:59:09
He they they wanna maybe maybe, you know, his skills are a bit declined as faras explosiveness, But again, the rich get richer.
00:59:19
That's home.
00:59:21
What, you think, um, left Bell like you said in Pittsburgh.
00:59:26
He was incredible.
00:59:27
I love that running stock.
00:59:28
He does this small feet and boom darts.
00:59:30
Incredibly patient Runner.
00:59:32
One thing about the chiefs, um, and I got, like, their own TV every week, so I watched them.
00:59:37
Their incredible to me.
00:59:38
They remind me of Golden State and their little peek when they're just they're playing a different sport than everyone else.
00:59:43
Their play calling the explosiveness.
00:59:46
Patty Mahomes is just incredible.
00:59:48
One thing I don't like about the Chiefs, though.
00:59:50
They get real soft on the goal line.
00:59:53
You got that? That they're running back? I forgot his name from L s U The young cap, The rookie.
00:59:58
He's small.
00:59:59
He doesn't really get a major push up the gut and the fourth downs and, um, left bells, a touchdown machine.
01:00:08
Um, even if they just use him on the goal line, you're talking, he's gonna get 12 touchdown for the way they score late.
01:00:15
Late December, when the Patriots or someone comes in the arrowhead and, you know, ballistics gonna find he'll figure out one thing that you do well and stop it.
01:00:25
So how you gonna just to that.
01:00:26
And now you got left Bell getting touchdowns in the red zone on the goal line instead of field goals or trick plays and ****.
01:00:34
Um, yeah, Like PCI said the rich get richer.
01:00:37
Um, death is important with cove, it and all this stuff.
01:00:42
I don't see anyone beating them.
01:00:44
Whoever beats them is gonna take a miracle day.
01:00:46
Baltimore has a chance, but I don't know if they still early it is.
01:00:52
It's gonna take a miracle day and certain teams like that.
01:00:55
And I mean, that's the one thing about football, the best team, all you need to be the best team that day.
01:01:01
This ain't no Siri's.
01:01:02
You say no.
01:01:04
You know, basketball, the best team wins because you got to beat them four times.
01:01:08
Unless you're the Golden State against Cleveland Cavaliers.
01:01:12
Eso.
01:01:13
But you know, Kansas City corn.
01:01:16
We know your football guy, man.
01:01:18
This is This is your thing, man.
01:01:20
What did you think about love? Ian Bell signing with the chiefs? Uh um, overall, it's I mean, it's a no brainer.
01:01:30
I mean, any 30.
01:01:31
Honestly, I'm surprised they weren't like 15 other teams that weren't going out to sign him.
01:01:38
I mean it.
01:01:39
Waas Okay. Yeah.
01:01:42
So Okay, so this knowing that now that I mean then then that's what I'm saying.
01:01:46
Like, Look, lady on Bell.
01:01:49
I don't really think he's afforded any of this from where he started toe where he's where he is, where he came now, all right with the Chiefs.
01:01:58
And I think it was e there was no brainer.
01:02:02
There's no brain to pick him up.
01:02:03
He's still productive.
01:02:05
Honestly, I think he's still more than like from the statistics wise.
01:02:09
No, he's not the best in the league, but e I still think that he's one of the best.
01:02:15
And that's maybe from a personal standpoint, Um, because he's still I mean, he's still healthy.
01:02:22
It still helped either.
01:02:23
Look, now you said Pittsburgh didn't want to give him his money, so he played it smart.
01:02:29
I'm not gonna go out there. I'm not gonna play.
01:02:31
I'm not gonna do all that stuff.
01:02:32
Bust my ass and I'm not gonna get paid.
01:02:34
I'm the top three running back in the league.
01:02:36
I'm not gonna do that.
01:02:38
Okay. Cool.
01:02:39
Sit out a year.
01:02:41
Jets signed him.
01:02:42
He gets he gets the bank, he gets broke off.
01:02:45
You have to.
01:02:46
In that situation, you are running back.
01:02:48
You know, the years on the running back.
01:02:50
You may have two years.
01:02:52
Three at the most.
01:02:53
Okay, if if you're that great.
01:02:55
You know, you're a premier back.
01:02:58
You got to get your money.
01:02:59
You gotta get your money.
01:03:00
You got to get it down.
01:03:01
So he did his thing from that.
01:03:03
Now, now.
01:03:04
Now, with the Jets, he didn't do ****.
01:03:06
Didn't do anything with the Jets.
01:03:07
They were horrible team, you know? Hey, just didn't Just didn't do anything terrible.
01:03:13
Terrible, terrible.
01:03:14
You wanna be there? You didn't wanna be there.
01:03:16
Nobody wanna be there.
01:03:18
Nobody wants to be there.
01:03:19
So it's initially they were the only team that was gonna break the bank for him to get that money, so he had to get his money.
01:03:24
Okay, Now he played it smart.
01:03:26
He's like, Yo, they they're not going anywhere. This bums.
01:03:30
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get a c l tear for a team that's not going anywhere.
01:03:34
So we chose not toe not to give it 110% as most players would.
01:03:41
But he's in that position away. Doesn't have to.
01:03:43
You gotta think about your career.
01:03:45
So then Okay, They let him go, Whatever.
01:03:47
And then now the Chiefs pick him up on a one year deal.
01:03:50
I think it's great.
01:03:51
They they don't have to pay them to Mak.
01:03:52
They pay him the league minimum or whatever.
01:03:55
He's still getting paid from the Jets.
01:03:57
It's a win win.
01:03:58
Yeah, and I think he's gonna go in here.
01:04:00
I think he's really gonna show out.
01:04:02
I really do.
01:04:03
I really think he's gonna show up for the Chiefs and then maybe they signed him next year.
01:04:06
Or don't you know this is something to where he can he can.
01:04:10
He can audition for other teams.
01:04:11
That's about to say that That's the big toe him.
01:04:14
This is like his demo tape, so he needs to get signed to a major record label next year.
01:04:19
He go out there this year, scored 10 touchdowns.
01:04:22
I mean, can you imagine a set? So Kwan, now being to me, could put him on the outside, line them right out the gut, and even go right to the slot? This just gonna be fun that I didn't even think about you? Have you have Eric the enemy? You know, you have one of the best running back that played the game, you know? I mean, how he played in Colorado, as you know, college.
01:04:42
And then he played for the Eagles.
01:04:44
So, like, he, I mean, he was a really, really good back, you know? I mean, not as great as he was in college, but he came in and he did this thing when he played in the NFL.
01:04:51
So you have that now.
01:04:53
Now, you you're able to have a back that, you know, that 23 years ago was arguably the best back in the league.
01:05:00
That still has miles.
01:05:01
Miles up still has gas in the tank. So I mean, 28.
01:05:05
That's what I'm saying. Only 28.
01:05:06
And he still has.
01:05:07
He still has tread on it on his leg, so he's gonna be okay. He's gonna be all right.
01:05:12
Yeah.
01:05:13
I mean, listen, I I think what the beauty and this signing Is this what you touched on Levian man? They could split him out into the slot.
01:05:23
He's that type of back that, you know, He's excellent out out of the backfield, catching out of the backfield.
01:05:28
So the amount of things you could do with this type of guy.
01:05:31
Um, you already have a young bell horse in the young and the young kid from L s U.
01:05:37
But you don't wanna wear him down.
01:05:39
So that's why this was a good signing.
01:05:40
A swell it z It could get ugly in K.
01:05:47
C.
01:05:48
Um, and I also say this, you know what? As faras demos and all of that.
01:05:51
Listen, Levian is not eating ramen noodles every night.
01:05:56
In the two years he was in with the Jets, he got $28 million.
01:06:00
Eso he's okay with that And that ad from that aspect of it, Um, and he didn't get along with him.
01:06:09
And Adam Gates didn't get along from the jump.
01:06:11
So this was this was gonna happen.
01:06:14
Either one of them was gonna have to go.
01:06:15
I'm surprised he was engaged.
01:06:17
I think he's I think he's next.
01:06:19
But you know, Gates never.
01:06:21
He never accepted Levy on from the jump they didn't want.
01:06:26
It was they had a trade deadline with Levy on.
01:06:30
They had to get rid of him first, tried to get rid of him first, Then they cut.
01:06:36
It's funny that you mention that Because he actually came out on the interview before.
01:06:41
Actually, when he got signed with the Jets and he actually was saying that Adam gays understood him as, ah player.
01:06:47
And that's what that was.
01:06:49
One of the reasons why he went to the Jets and what I'm like, Yeah, it wasn't the money.
01:06:55
So hey, took the money.
01:06:58
But him and Adam Gates never They never click Gates.
01:07:01
Never.
01:07:02
He never really wanted Let me on from the jump.
01:07:04
And, um, it ended up working out that that way.
01:07:08
But Levian landed on his feet clearly, and he's in a good situation so quickly.
01:07:15
Let's move on to the surprising news yesterday, man.
01:07:18
Um, you know, a B A B signed with the Bucks yesterday.
01:07:23
Um, he had been in the news the last couple of days, but it all signs was pointing towards him.
01:07:29
Headed towards Seattle.
01:07:31
But Tampa time and those boys made a call.
01:07:34
Got him down to Florida.
01:07:36
Now he signed man, what do you guys think about this? Pick up quickly.
01:07:39
Go ahead, Brandon.
01:07:41
Uh, trying to form a Madden Ultimate team down there in Tampa Bay, they got all the Hall of fame cards in their deck like I don't the one thing I worry about with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we've seen this numerous times throughout history.
01:07:59
Well, my my time watching NFL, the teams that go out and just start signing a bunch of names, usually at the teams that went at the end of the season.
01:08:08
Um, for some reason, you know, one reason or another, those teams just they either don't mesh, you know, suck.
01:08:16
It's a lot of moving parts.
01:08:17
There's a lot of moving parts, and they didn't have an offseason together.
01:08:20
I mean, you got Tom Brady there, but I mean, yeah, Tom Brady is 40.
01:08:24
Okay, you got Gronkowski there. But he's 40.
01:08:26
Yeah, you got a B.
01:08:27
But he ain't played in three years.
01:08:29
So, like, it'll be interesting to see that they're gonna be tough, But I don't I don't know.
01:08:36
Tampa Bay for me.
01:08:37
They're signing too many names.
01:08:40
I don't feel like they're building a team of cohesive moving parts.
01:08:45
I feel like they're just They're just throwing a roster together right now.
01:08:49
What do you think? I agree with PCI.
01:08:53
Um I'm sorry.
01:08:54
Otr Brandon, Can I call you peach on this, but I don't know, 40 year.
01:08:57
I agree.
01:09:00
It's just gonna be fun to watch.
01:09:01
I think Tampa is actually not that bad a team.
01:09:05
The NFC is pretty weak.
01:09:06
NFC South is It's putrid.
01:09:09
I hate it.
01:09:10
I hate the saints.
01:09:11
Um, Carolina is terrible of San Francisco.
01:09:15
Seattle? I don't know, man.
01:09:19
I e Seattle.
01:09:21
Yeah, I don't trust them.
01:09:23
Don't you got? Then they got the M v.
01:09:24
P right now. Hey, hey.
01:09:26
Watching Watching Laker reruns.
01:09:28
E don't trust Seattle, but they're okay. Team.
01:09:33
Um I don't know what the odds are right now. Michael.
01:09:37
On the bucks to the Super Bowl Put put a stack down for me because I like the I like their path.
01:09:44
I agree.
01:09:45
Repeat, You know, they're not like this isn't like a cohesive team, but sometimes you just gotta out talent cats, like we just got a pound.
01:09:53
You with better players like a B is a number one.
01:09:57
He's a straight up number one.
01:09:59
Gronk is 40 years old and he's still the best tight and I've ever seen uh what's the cat? The dude who signed the cash money? Mike Evans.
01:10:09
He's a legit receiver.
01:10:11
The old line is wack.
01:10:12
I've never seen the defense.
01:10:14
We love Bruce Arians.
01:10:15
Why not exist Tampa Bay? Like Why not? Like, Why not try to sign and make a splash in a short cove? It type crazy year.
01:10:24
Go on.
01:10:25
What do you think, man? When you think about a be signing with temper.
01:10:28
So my things that I think look well, I believe in third chances, I believe. 2nd, 3rd chances.
01:10:36
All right, He was nutty.
01:10:39
This wild ****.
01:10:40
Okay? It really did clearly.
01:10:45
So obviously they feel that he can come back and he could produce.
01:10:48
He can come back to the lead.
01:10:49
He could play.
01:10:50
He can.
01:10:51
He can add some value now, from the football perspective of it.
01:10:56
I like Erin's.
01:10:57
I've always been a Bruce Arians fan, all right, I think that I think the guys from coaching where he's been, Oh, Asparagus coaching life.
01:11:06
E don't know if you guys have ever seen the special on on on NFL football life.
01:11:13
Bruce Arians.
01:11:14
Amazing watching. Amazing.
01:11:17
So and he already understands that.
01:11:20
Look, Tom Brady has maybe one year, two years before he gets broke, and then he's gonna be done, so we gotta win now, all right? It's a sense of urgency.
01:11:29
We gotta win now.
01:11:31
They signed up for two years.
01:11:33
I mean, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go ahead and pull the trigger.
01:11:38
I mean, look, Tampa Bay, they own arrives right now and honestly Oh, that they look really good.
01:11:44
They look really good.
01:11:45
I hate to say it because I was I was like, Nah, I just can't see it.
01:11:50
I was like, Tom coming back, But, I mean, they're looking good there, running the ball. They're passing.
01:11:55
They're playing really good defense.
01:11:57
And I mean, just you have Mike Evans on the other side.
01:12:01
He's already a monster.
01:12:03
And then you just put Antonio Brown the mix.
01:12:06
That's gonna be hard.
01:12:07
That's gonna be hard to stop.
01:12:09
And he's still been working out.
01:12:10
So it wasn't like he was just sitting around, you know, and his in his mansion.
01:12:15
Just chilling.
01:12:16
He was he was working on and making really cool rap songs, too.
01:12:19
Yeah, that's true.
01:12:20
And also dying his hair, all different type of colors. Okay.
01:12:23
Mr. Okay, Mr. Big Chest. E.
01:12:26
Hope you got some counseling.
01:12:28
E hope so, too.
01:12:31
Also to but from a football from a football standpoint.
01:12:35
I mean, they beat me. They're dangerous.
01:12:38
Dangerous? I think so.
01:12:39
And and in a week, NFC, The NFC is weak.
01:12:44
Who they like to go play against the NFC East winner.
01:12:47
Like, really? Like, Does that scare them? They have a home game against the Eagles in December.
01:12:53
I don't think anything I don't I don't I don't think any team in any season is scaring anybody right now, and, uh, NFL and they whipped up.
01:13:00
They whip the Green Bay already.
01:13:02
I'm honestly, all the path to them is pretty good.
01:13:08
Yeah.
01:13:09
Listen, why not? I agree with you.
01:13:11
Why not make the sign? And, you know, my only concern is he could be somewhat of a locker room cancer, as they say.
01:13:18
Um, but I think I think Bruce, I think the coaching staff is strong enough to kind of keep that at bay.
01:13:25
I think Tom Brady is, you know, he could kind of keep that is e think Tom Brady can kind of be his handler.
01:13:31
Is Jack Haley e check and I got four rings off of handling Dennis Rodman.
01:13:38
Well, I'm glad you I'm glad you brought that up my real quick, because this is his second take now with Tom Brady.
01:13:45
It didn't work the first time.
01:13:47
The first tape, He didn't get a fair shot.
01:13:49
NFL was on his ass.
01:13:50
It was not a fair shot.
01:13:52
And I was standing close on his ass.
01:13:53
Now, maybe a little bit less.
01:13:55
But, I mean, that is not as much.
01:13:56
Now, e, hey, played.
01:13:59
He played two games with them patched and they hear, like, three touchdown.
01:14:03
They probably would have won the championship last year.
01:14:05
E, I think it would have worked into in New England, you know, but like like who said the NFL was coming after him and and then it got to a point.
01:14:15
You know, New England.
01:14:17
They don't shy away from taking players like that, but it got to a point where even their hands, their hands were tied and they had to let him go.
01:14:25
And I don't think they wanted to, but I think they had.
01:14:28
They had to let him go.
01:14:29
So, um, we'll see how it goes.
01:14:32
But I think I'm with you.
01:14:34
I say whatever.
01:14:35
Why not? Let's try Let's see what's going on.
01:14:38
So listen, then we went a little longer than I thought we would on some of these topics, but I had a surprise segment for you guys and then you'll coming in it.
01:14:46
Only it only worked out perfectly for this situation.
01:14:49
So let's go to the surprise segment.
01:14:52
We're going, Let's it's gonna be quick.
01:14:54
Then we'll go to the OTR, pick him and then we'll be done.
01:14:58
So last week we didn't get the jump on and do OTR Sports the normal show.
01:15:03
We did a bonus episode without due to talk about the Lakers championship, and unfortunately, we missed it because Brandon and Kwan and though you know they all like the same teams.
01:15:14
So Brandon likes the Giants, Brandon and Cornyn w like the Washington football club team Redskins, whatever we're gonna call them.
01:15:24
So before we knew that was coming on the day I created this segment, so I wanted to let you guys I wanted I wanted to rehash that because that's part of the reason why we started this show because of the banter that goes on between Corn and Brandon when their teams play.
01:15:46
So Kwan forgive me for this man.
01:15:49
For this for this picture here.
01:15:51
But the Giants did win.
01:15:54
The Giants did win.
01:15:55
And it was as you could see by the score, it was a close game.
01:15:59
Um, it was, you know, all the counts.
01:16:02
It was kind of a **** show, ugly game.
01:16:04
But, hey, a win is a win.
01:16:08
You know, when there's a when a win is a win is a win, When does it win is a win.
01:16:13
So, listen, this is the segment I wanted to go into.
01:16:16
I wanted to do Kwan verse.
01:16:19
Brandon, I wanted to give you guys a chance to duke it out.
01:16:24
Like you didn't get to Duke it out last week.
01:16:26
But that you being here, him being a washing football club is two against one Brandon.
01:16:30
So I don't know if you can handle this two against.
01:16:33
Okay, alright.
01:16:35
Two against one, So I don't know if you up Thio e Don't know if you up to this task, man, But listen, Brandon, your team won.
01:16:47
So you go first, man, talk your **** for a couple of minutes.
01:16:51
E talk ****, talking **** for a couple of minutes.
01:16:55
E, I'll put the banner back up.
01:17:00
The Giants won.
01:17:02
Talk your ****.
01:17:04
They beat corner in dollars team talking ****, man.
01:17:09
Okay, here we go.
01:17:10
Here we go.
01:17:11
What's that? What's that now? Three in a row.
01:17:13
Three of three in a row.
01:17:14
Kwan No sake. One.
01:17:16
No.
01:17:17
Say Kwan either.
01:17:18
By the way, no se corn either.
01:17:20
Um ****.
01:17:23
That's all I got to say.
01:17:24
Really? I mean, what more I got to say they haven't beaten us.
01:17:28
And how Maney, What now? Two years.
01:17:31
Three years? E.
01:17:33
At least it was close this time last year. Not so much.
01:17:38
You're lucky. Steak Juan wasn't plan.
01:17:40
Probably would've been another 200 yard rusher.
01:17:42
Look, Kwan Fai Shell e? Yeah.
01:17:47
I mean, okay, way ****.
01:17:51
Yeah.
01:17:52
I mean, yeah, you guys one good luck.
01:17:54
Like I mean, great, great job.
01:17:56
But that's not really saying much, because when it comes to other teams, you guys don't do **** E.
01:18:03
Yeah, we do some this year.
01:18:04
I mean I mean, there's nothing more I can really say, but you guys suck as well, too.
01:18:07
So it's not like you guys are doing anything.
01:18:10
You're not going anywhere.
01:18:11
We've told you this *****.
01:18:13
Yeah.
01:18:14
You know what I'm saying? Way to go.
01:18:16
We can go to And 14 2 wins against y'all.
01:18:21
I'm alright.
01:18:22
You know what it is? Um You know, I like I said, Yeah, I think Washington football team is terrible.
01:18:31
We have been literally since fifth grade.
01:18:35
Um, so I think the Giants are a good team either, but they actually play tough, though, and they got some I players like they're not the worst team in the league.
01:18:46
That would be like Jacksonville type.
01:18:47
They're not the worst team, but, um, we don't have e.
01:18:53
And that's the thing.
01:18:54
I actually, I think, say, Kwan is actually in the market.
01:18:57
I trained him.
01:18:58
If I if I was a Giants fan and owner and I would actually training because a He has immense value.
01:19:05
Still, people actually think he's good.
01:19:07
I think physically, he's one of those guys that it's so **** muscular that he just every hit he absorbs and he just takes it.
01:19:16
And I don't know if his body is really gonna ever take the pounding.
01:19:20
He reminds me of a hurt for Walker.
01:19:22
No, but I mean the mind of a Herschel Walker.
01:19:25
where Herschel Walker was.
01:19:26
I mean, ****, Herschel Walker at 60 at the Trump Rally, like he could still give you 1300 yards.
01:19:32
Hey, he's that physically imposing, you know? And remember Jim, Remember Jimmy Jimmy Jones? I'm sorry.
01:19:40
Jimmy Johnson coming in saying that.
01:19:43
I'm sorry.
01:19:44
One of Jimmy John's sub.
01:19:45
Sorry, I remember Jimmie Johnson coming in saying, You know, look at Herschel.
01:19:49
He just doesn't He doesn't look like he's loves it or he doesn't like.
01:19:53
He's like a football player and he has value and let's trade him.
01:19:57
And we saw what happened with that to me.
01:19:59
Say, Kwan's on the market.
01:20:01
He's on the market that you heard it here first.
01:20:03
Yeah, a player.
01:20:05
You know, You see the thing about it.
01:20:07
What with Brandon is he thinks that if you have, say, corn Barkley, then you could go to the Super Bowl.
01:20:12
And that's just not the case like.
01:20:14
And we saw this and we told him this.
01:20:16
Why wouldn't I think? Why would I think, say, Kwan, increasing your chances of winning because he's a running back and I mean you need a little bit more than a running back just to get to the Super Bowl or to get to the playoffs.
01:20:27
You know, like he's just one man like, you know, like he like He's a really good running back and he's really, really talented. He's really great.
01:20:36
Eso you don't say the same **** about E.
01:20:39
I mean, that's what you were way got chased Young, you know? All right.
01:20:41
You know, Chase, Um, there's a bunch of the generation like you.
01:20:44
Just a Kwan is a very nice player.
01:20:47
He has your question here is who is more dysfunctional, the football team or or the Knicks? No way.
01:20:57
Next, like that were way more dysfunctional.
01:20:59
E Knicks fan and this.
01:21:02
And to be honest with you, I got I got the football team being more dysfunctional than we are, but they have a The only thing that's on Lee that, as as dysfunctional is us, is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, not too far from the Washington A.
01:21:16
There are literally their two most dysfunctional organizations in the entire world.
01:21:23
6.
01:21:24
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington.
01:21:26
Redskins Z ultimately, like Zack corns gonna wanna leave because you don't have **** there.
01:21:37
Like I'm like you don't have a line.
01:21:41
Like what they want worried about right now is getting back on the field.
01:21:46
E I don't want the Giants.
01:21:48
Yeah, we got ta.
01:21:50
What's to play for the Giants? Yeah, he looked like a team.
01:21:53
Why? Why Why? Why are we debating Mike? Why did you do this way? 10 combined.
01:22:04
Why are we doing this? Hey, listen, man.
01:22:07
And also you also gotta remember you.
01:22:09
You guys have recently just started winning.
01:22:11
When we had RG three, we was crushing y'all, okay? And you couldn't stand it.
01:22:15
So now that you guys are winning you just by one point, you know what? You know what? Hurt really lost against the Giant.
01:22:25
Remember that year the Washington was 79 It was seven and eight, and we need a one win to get to the playoffs.
01:22:31
And the Giants didn't play half the team, and they still they still get like, e hate the football team.
01:22:40
Yeah, they're so bad.
01:22:43
Way often.
01:22:45
Do remember some wins because me and Brandon actually went to a game one time, and we actually one and the bantering literally, all from just to let you guys know it was it was the nosebleed section They were free.
01:22:55
They were free tickets Way.
01:22:57
It's alright.
01:22:58
Ah man gave me some free tickets from the job.
01:23:00
We went to the game.
01:23:02
We just We destroyed the Giants and PCI had to sit there amongst all the washer Tony and fans and get crushed.
01:23:08
And we walked back.
01:23:10
It was good.
01:23:11
I loved it. I enjoyed it.
01:23:13
And just just just seeing that and seeing seeing his face like like it is now.
01:23:17
It was a It was a good day.
01:23:20
Kwan that was so long ago.
01:23:25
You guys haven't even contended for championships since we were in elementary school.
01:23:31
So Yeah, it's great.
01:23:33
Great. Okay.
01:23:35
Okay.
01:23:36
So listen.
01:23:37
Listen, Brandon, your team won, so I'm giving you 10 seconds.
01:23:43
Your faith? Your Here you go.
01:23:45
Facing first front and center.
01:23:49
Do what you do, man.
01:23:50
10 seconds.
01:23:51
Your team won.
01:23:53
Mike is giving me 10 seconds.
01:23:55
Uh, and we just lost e.
01:23:59
I'm saying your team beat the other to host team.
01:24:04
Your team beat the Washington football squad team. Whatever.
01:24:08
We're calling them 10 seconds to talk your **** without the two of them saying anything.
01:24:16
Yeah, in a couple weeks way.
01:24:20
Get our second win of the season.
01:24:21
E try and listen. I tried to get it.
01:24:31
I tried to get e tried to get a brother his hands.
01:24:34
You gotta catch me on a win.
01:24:36
Like like, Hey, the Giants won on Sunday way.
01:24:44
Lost on Thursday.
01:24:45
Way up 21 10 in the fourth quarter. Cheese.
01:24:50
All right, well, listen, man, that that was give you what you wanted that that was the brand inverse corn segment because we didn't get, get, get another 10 seconds in a in a few weeks Way didn't get to record the show.
01:25:08
Who's gonna be your quarterback, then? Is it still gonna be Kyle Allen? Or you're gonna have about three quarterbacks way like Kyle Allen your way? Like I was, like, 50 yards you're now granted, He made a bonehead ass play six minutes left to go in the fourth quarter.
01:25:25
I'm sorry, e.
01:25:28
I was the one that gets the 10 seconds you don't get.
01:25:30
The 10 CEO made my two seconds.
01:25:33
How about that? How about that? And I make my 10 seconds can ideo So see, this is what the Converse Brandon segment was supposed to delight.
01:25:41
What? Just happened right there, but y'all bullcrap! But we're moving on.
01:25:47
We're moving on.
01:25:48
We're moving on to the world famous OTR pick him.
01:25:51
E told my God that would make his pick.
01:25:54
So he's going to join us this week. 1st.
01:25:56
1st, let's let's do a little recap.
01:26:00
Okay? ****.
01:26:02
Look who won the week.
01:26:05
Pretty close, though.
01:26:06
It's pretty close.
01:26:07
Everyone still in it, Michael, in the week coming in at 10 and four.
01:26:10
Quality.
01:26:11
Brandon, I'm really looking like the Redskins washed toward the Washington football team.
01:26:17
Record five, followed by Brandon at 95 within.
01:26:20
Corn came in at 577.
01:26:23
How do you go? Seven and seven.
01:26:25
You missed some games.
01:26:26
Oh, it was wasn't shortly.
01:26:29
It's 14.
01:26:30
Yeah, it was 14 games.
01:26:32
Yeah, Yeah, right.
01:26:34
Weak And Covic and all that.
01:26:36
I'm going to come back up, though.
01:26:38
So? So Listen, man.
01:26:40
Kwan corner had been in the lead the overall lead throughout this whole thing, but not anymore.
01:26:46
Oh, that I've been on his ass.
01:26:50
Oh, I'm gonna get back, though.
01:26:53
I'm gonna get that back though.
01:26:54
Mike is taking over the lead 47 27 and kwon has fell back.
01:27:01
He's two games behind now, and now Brandon is on his ass.
01:27:05
So we'll see how it goes, man.
01:27:08
But listen, we took a long time when some of these other topics and that's good, man, it was flowing.
01:27:12
But let's be quick on this ****.
01:27:14
Okay, so we're gonna pick the winner.
01:27:17
You could say it's pork.
01:27:19
Uh, and then that's it.
01:27:21
All right, so we're gonna start with.
01:27:24
Let's see.
01:27:25
Let's see.
01:27:26
We're gonna start me, Pull up the schedule real quick.
01:27:29
E thought I had it up already, but I didn't want I wrote it down.
01:27:34
The woman just call out the games.
01:27:36
No, I got you.
01:27:37
I got you cause I want you to focus on picking Dog E S O.
01:27:42
We had Thursday night game that that we already talked about, uh, that Brady just mentioned the Giants lose by one point to Philly.
01:27:49
I think Juan was the only one. The truth.
01:27:51
Philly.
01:27:52
So corn is starting the week off.
01:27:54
Great, but capital, we'll start with Joe.
01:27:59
We'll start with Detroit traveling to Atlanta 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:28:04
Who you got? Battle? I got.
01:28:07
I got Atlanta winning.
01:28:09
What's the score? Are we Okay, so we are doing to score.
01:28:12
Yeah, This is this the pick The winner in the score in that ****.
01:28:16
E got Falcon 17.
01:28:23
17.
01:28:24
What? I'll be said. Oh, they'll be.
01:28:27
Just pick the pick. The winner.
01:28:28
Okay. Yeah. 17 lines. 10.
01:28:30
Okay.
01:28:31
Who you got? You gotta be Detroit 31 28.
01:28:38
Detroit 31 28.
01:28:39
Who you got? I got the Atlanta 28 24.
01:28:43
I like Raheem Morris in any coach named Rahim is okay with me, e.
01:28:50
I went, I went with Atlanta, man, I got Atlanta.
01:28:52
Atlanta 27 24.
01:28:54
They look good last week, man.
01:28:55
Maybe right, He ain't got him going.
01:28:57
So let's see.
01:28:58
Let's see how it goes in the next game.
01:29:00
We got Cleveland traveling to Cincinnati at 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:29:04
Who you got going? I'm gonna go with the Browns on this.
01:29:09
The Browns 17 Bangles 10.
01:29:11
I like Joey, but I'm gonna go with go with wack ass baker on this one.
01:29:15
Who you gotta be? I got Cleveland 25 19 25 19.
01:29:24
Who you got? I got You know what? Let's Let's make a splash. Urge.
01:29:28
Always been doing pretty good.
01:29:29
Let's go.
01:29:30
Cincy 38 28. Wow.
01:29:32
Okay.
01:29:33
Okay.
01:29:34
Okay.
01:29:35
Um, I went with Cleveland.
01:29:36
I got Cleveland 24 21.
01:29:38
I think Baker will pull it out.
01:29:40
But Joey, Joey won't make it competitive.
01:29:42
Well, I'll say that.
01:29:43
We'll say that, Uh, the next game, man, this is This should probably be the game of the week.
01:29:49
We got the Steelers traveling to Tennessee to face the titans of 1 p.m.
01:29:54
Kickoff. Who? You got? One.
01:29:57
You know how I feel about them? Kenneth? T board them.
01:29:59
Them? Them them from Tennessee, a k a.
01:30:02
Kentucky boys.
01:30:03
So I'm gonna go with, uh, I'm gonna go with them. Go with Tennessee boys.
01:30:06
17 Steelers 14.
01:30:09
Okay, who you gotta be e got Tennessee 27 24.
01:30:17
What about you? I got the I got.
01:30:20
Tennessee is also 31 17.
01:30:22
Not a big, big Ben fan, and Pittsburgh's finally playing on the road, So Good point. Good point.
01:30:29
You got them kind of getting blown out.
01:30:30
But that's a good point, man.
01:30:31
This seems like Pittsburgh home.
01:30:33
They've been whole year.
01:30:35
Yeah, I'm picking Tennessee because I need them to beat Pittsburgh before they come into Baltimore next week.
01:30:43
So I got to the sea winning 33 to 30.
01:30:46
Uh, next game, we got Buffalo traveling to New York.
01:30:51
Well, well, short travel Thio face the jets of 1 p.m.
01:30:59
Kickoff. Man.
01:31:00
Who y'all got? Who you got going? Quick Game bills 21 Jets seven.
01:31:05
Okay, Who you Who you gotta be, Uh, Buffalo 37 6.
01:31:13
I don't think the Jets were gonna win another game.
01:31:16
Who you got? That's the plan, right? I got got Buffalo 24 13.
01:31:23
Okay, well, I got Buffalo 44 to 6.
01:31:25
And yes, I really think that's gonna happen.
01:31:28
Yea.
01:31:31
My buffalo coming over getting their ass with last week? Well, no, they did they? Yeah, they lost the chief.
01:31:39
So that was too, because that two games in a row, they lost.
01:31:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:31:52
They lost to him. They lost two in a row.
01:31:54
I think they're gonna take it out.
01:31:55
They're gonna take it out on the Jets, so it'll be a blow out the next game.
01:32:00
Man, we have the, uh Oh.
01:32:05
I skipped the game.
01:32:06
Sorry, we have the Panthers.
01:32:08
Carolina Panthers traveling to New Orleans to face the Saints 1 p.m.
01:32:12
Kickoff.
01:32:13
Who? You got? Corn? Uh, just like just like my brother.
01:32:16
Who said I don't I don't trust the Panthers.
01:32:18
The defense plays well, but I'm gonna go with Saints.
01:32:20
21 Panthers 10.
01:32:24
Who you gotta be? Carolina 24 23 e saw that Michael Thomas just punched another player and then Emmanuel Sanders has covitz, so I'm gonna go Carolina 21 17 at the dome.
01:32:45
Did he punched? He punched another player.
01:32:46
E, I think.
01:32:49
Well, I think he's hurt.
01:32:50
They They're saying he's e someone broke his hand. He's a punk.
01:32:56
He's not playing.
01:32:57
He's out this week.
01:32:58
They said Okay, okay.
01:33:00
Him in a man.
01:33:01
You're saying this out.
01:33:02
So but I'm still go in New Orleans.
01:33:04
I'm gonna go to New Orleans 27 21.
01:33:06
Oh, you're a big Taysom Hill fan.
01:33:08
That got terrible.
01:33:09
Alright, the next game, man Kwan, I'm a start on the other side with this one.
01:33:19
Kwan, in that way have the Dallas Cowboys traveling to face the Washington Football Club team.
01:33:28
Please.
01:33:29
Whatever you wanna call it 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:33:33
You've got behind you He's got Washington.
01:33:37
Come on, Kwan crazy.
01:33:40
Oh, man, I can't go.
01:33:42
I can't go against the grain dog.
01:33:44
Washington 17 Dallas 14.
01:33:48
Okay, A valid reason, Though I have a valid reason.
01:33:53
Very valid reasons.
01:33:55
You know what? That's it.
01:33:58
I have to go with my brother to be watching.
01:34:02
I got Washington within 28.
01:34:03
27 I think Dallas Mike McCarthy's terrible.
01:34:06
He's going to be at the best proficient shop locally before the game.
01:34:10
Um, I, you know, Washington hasn't been playing terribly were bad, but we haven't been playing terribly.
01:34:18
28 27.
01:34:19
A couple turnovers get to the 28 points.
01:34:23
I think I know where you're gonna go with this, Brandon.
01:34:26
But who you got? Dallas? Yeah.
01:34:34
Defense hasn't been playing well, and they're only gonna give up 13 points I got I went with Dallas, but I got Dallas in a close game 17. 16.
01:34:45
Again shout out to my boy, Eric Lawrence Tool.
01:34:49
He reminds me every week that I used to be a Dallas Cowboys fans.
01:34:54
E actually was going to say, I hope I hope Eric is actually watching this right now.
01:34:59
If he's not, he's not somebody will tell him e o much love e got the Cowboys winning 17.
01:35:09
16.
01:35:10
Um, next game, we have Green Bay coming off of the laws traveling to Houston 1 p.m.
01:35:19
Kickoff.
01:35:20
Who you got going? I had this game, too. Yes.
01:35:27
Yeah.
01:35:28
Packers 21 Texans 14.
01:35:33
Well, you got big Green Bay.
01:35:38
2034 24.
01:35:41
Mhm e got Green Bay and the greatest, most talented quarterback I've ever seen.
01:35:46
Aaron Rodgers, 24 17 over huge Houston.
01:35:50
Okay, okay.
01:35:51
I got Green Bay getting off the snide, but I got Houston making it tough.
01:35:56
I got Green Bay 28 25.
01:36:00
Next up, we got Tampa time and the boys traveling to Vegas, Man, listen, I wish I was going to Vegas right now, right? Further the Vegas vacation.
01:36:10
The first good.
01:36:12
Good B.
01:36:13
No, I was just saying I heard Vegas stay there.
01:36:17
They're pretty tight on that covert stuff s so you know, you could feel safe when you go.
01:36:22
Go ahead.
01:36:23
Uh, yeah.
01:36:25
Well, I want to go somewhere.
01:36:27
I ain't got walking around with a mask all the time, so I'm awake.
01:36:31
I'm awake for all of that.
01:36:32
But anyways, the first four o'clock kick off of the day.
01:36:37
Who? You got? Corn? Tampa of Vegas.
01:36:39
The Raiders.
01:36:43
Okay, I'm gonna start with you.
01:36:44
I'm gonna start with you, Okay? You know, across country, um, Vegas hasn't been playing bad.
01:36:53
They have not been playing bad.
01:36:55
That that that running back to God. Jacobs.
01:36:57
Solid running back.
01:36:58
Um, you know, I'm gonna go to Tampa Bay, though. 34.
01:37:02
21 in a really nice game.
01:37:04
34.
01:37:05
20. Ok, OK.
01:37:06
Kwan.
01:37:07
Who you got, man? Yeah, I'm gonna go the same route.
01:37:09
I'm gonna go with Tampa.
01:37:10
Um, I have Tampa 28 Raiders 14.
01:37:16
Okay.
01:37:17
Who you got? Brandon E.
01:37:18
Got I pick Vegas.
01:37:20
I pick Vegas 35.
01:37:21
23.
01:37:22
Man.
01:37:23
I saw the way Gruden came out and coach against Kansas City.
01:37:25
I think he's gonna come out, and he wants to prove something that they're better than this.
01:37:29
Tampa Bay team is well on.
01:37:31
They got They got some history there.
01:37:33
I think he's gonna our coach.
01:37:34
Bruce Arians.
01:37:36
I got I got Tampa in the close 1 28 27.
01:37:40
But I wanna I'm a jump.
01:37:41
I want to jump to a game I want to jump to.
01:37:44
Let's see, I want to skip a couple of games because I got my guy in here.
01:37:48
I got my guy, my guy King, who was 49.
01:37:52
Empire Pocket.
01:37:53
Check them out.
01:37:56
S so I want I want I want us to do the picking while he's in here, man, let's go to San Francisco traveling to New England.
01:38:06
Fortunately, I've Kickoff Kuala.
01:38:08
We're gonna start with you, man.
01:38:09
Who you got? Oh, man.
01:38:11
Man, Man, man, man.
01:38:13
Huh? Believe it or not, I'm gonna go with the Niners on this one.
01:38:18
My what? The miners on this one.
01:38:19
Okay, what's the score? 17 New England 14.
01:38:23
Okay.
01:38:24
Okay.
01:38:25
Who you got? Who you got? Um, Well, you know, San Francisco going cross country, they're pretty.
01:38:32
Have a really good defense.
01:38:33
Um, kind of average everywhere else. Jimmy. Jesus.
01:38:36
He's a He's a lame Bill Belichick.
01:38:39
Does he really lose three in a row or two in a row, ever? He's too good.
01:38:43
He knows already.
01:38:44
Weaknesses.
01:38:45
24 18.
01:38:46
New England 24 18 New England.
01:38:48
Okay, Who you got? Who you got be? Uh, I had New England for the very reason that You said that.
01:38:56
You know Belichick losing two games in a row.
01:38:59
I just can't remember the last time.
01:39:01
E remember that happening? Um, it's gonna be tough.
01:39:05
It's gonna be tough.
01:39:06
I'll say no, I'm just saying New England 23 20 before I go on a rabbit hole in England 23 20.
01:39:13
Clearly, clearly, Akeem disagrees with E.
01:39:19
You know, the only reason I picked New England is because two losses in the role of Belichick.
01:39:25
Yeah, it just doesn't.
01:39:27
It's nothing, even that San Francisco probably is a better team.
01:39:31
It's just I would have picked San Francisco otherwise.
01:39:35
So my myself went with New England.
01:39:38
Um, hold on.
01:39:41
This is this is for you.
01:39:43
Brand new in, uh, but I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with my guy.
01:39:54
Can I'm going My God can When I say New England wins 28 24 in a close battle out there, um, s a shout out to my guy came man, listen, check out.
01:40:07
Check out the 49 Empire Man podcast.
01:40:10
You know, he goes, he doesn't live.
01:40:12
Show It's dope, man.
01:40:14
So check them boys out there.
01:40:17
Uh, let me see.
01:40:18
So I skipped the we got, We got Jacksonville Chargers and we got Casey in Denver.
01:40:24
Okay, so let me let me let me go back to K C traveling to Denver for 25. Kickoff.
01:40:32
What you got going? Uh, yeah, the chief ****ing no brainer.
01:40:38
Uh, Drew Lock he I mean, it was Drew lock. He sucks.
01:40:42
He's wack.
01:40:43
I like Melvin Gordon, but Drew Lock sucks.
01:40:46
I'm going with the chief 21 Broncos 17.
01:40:49
Uh huh.
01:40:51
Um, Drew Lock can dance, though.
01:40:54
You see him? He was hitting the Dougie on their ass last week.
01:40:57
Um, yeah.
01:40:58
Like you said, I got Casey 41 17.
01:41:01
It's a high altitude game, and it's a rivalry game, but Kansas City is just rolling, man.
01:41:07
They just bombing threes on every Oh, you got me.
01:41:12
Uh, I got Kansas City.
01:41:14
I think it would be a little bit closer.
01:41:16
The division rivals pretty much the other teams in the division.
01:41:19
You are building your team to play you.
01:41:21
So I got Kansas City 27 20.
01:41:24
I could live with that. I could see that.
01:41:26
I think this is I think this is Let me on his first game s Oh, I got you know, Kansas City pulling out some stunts to get him involved, pulling out a couple players, got the enemy and an anti pulling out some, uh, pulling some players out of their ass that they don't really use.
01:41:42
Just just to show up that new toy a little bit.
01:41:44
So I got Kansas City 34 17.
01:41:47
Mhm.
01:41:48
Um, if we Yeah, we have Jacksonville traveling to Los Angeles to face the charges for 25 Kickoff.
01:41:56
Who you got going? I'm going with the charges.
01:42:01
21 Jack seven.
01:42:04
Uh, be honest.
01:42:07
I don't even know who's on either of these teams.
01:42:09
This'll is a perfect game that needs to be played on the Tuesday NFL should just have games throughout the week.
01:42:15
I guess the charges I like when Arnold introduced the San Diego Chargers.
01:42:21
So I'm gonna go with them.
01:42:22
31 24.
01:42:25
You got me? I got the charges.
01:42:34
34 17.
01:42:37
Yeah, I remember the charges. I got the charges.
01:42:39
26 21.
01:42:41
Um, yeah, the young boy looking.
01:42:43
All right, man, That that quarterback looking like Yeah, huh? He's He may be legit.
01:42:48
He may be legit.
01:42:50
Um, okay.
01:42:51
Next we got the eight o'clock game, we got Seattle traveling Arizona.
01:42:55
I think this would be a pretty good game eight when he kicked off.
01:42:58
Who? You got one.
01:43:00
Oh, I got Seattle.
01:43:01
I got I mean, the M v p Now that I said I like the hand, man.
01:43:06
He's doing some great things this season.
01:43:08
Um, but I mean, his hands down the Seahawks.
01:43:12
Russell Wilson is playing phenomenal football.
01:43:15
I got them.
01:43:16
24 Cardinal 17 Close game.
01:43:17
Close game 24. 17.
01:43:20
Okay, so you got Yeah, where the game is at Arizona? Yes.
01:43:29
You know what? You don't get rich being playing it safe.
01:43:32
Arizona 40 to 38.
01:43:35
Oh, okay.
01:43:38
Okay.
01:43:39
Who you got be? I got Seattle 35 34.
01:43:45
Sure.
01:43:46
Yeah, I got Seattle 28 24.
01:43:48
I do think it'll be a close game, but I got Seattle pulling it out at the end.
01:43:53
I'm so not sold in Seattle.
01:43:55
I'm sorry.
01:43:56
I just I ain't telling them.
01:43:58
You know what I think it is? I think I think you still I feel the same way that playoff game against us.
01:44:03
I still hate to Seattle E.
01:44:06
I still don't it still doesn't sit right with me.
01:44:09
E.
01:44:11
Can I ask you a serious question as football fans, Washington football fans? Why is it that you're still skeptical of every other team in the league? But wait, we've got Monte sweat.
01:44:26
What league in sacks? It's like but every other team.
01:44:30
You know, they suck.
01:44:31
They ****ing defeated.
01:44:33
Yeah, but they suck.
01:44:34
We'll change your generational family.
01:44:36
Okay, If Chase Young was on a real team, he would be like lt already.
01:44:41
It is that he has to play for a terrible franchise like ours.
01:44:45
He's generational talent.
01:44:48
E RG three was the best quarterback we've ever seen.
01:44:52
At one point, according to E will say, I will say going into each year, you guys look at the schedule and say, We're gonna win 12 games easy.
01:45:07
And by Week two, while we to y'all like way.
01:45:17
What's life without hope, though, right? Shouldn't we have hoped to like Is that not fair? Can we have a way? Deep down, we know deep down were terrible, Okay, but we're hoping, Yeah, but it's it's a little It's a little over the top with y'all sometimes way.
01:45:37
Got one more game, man.
01:45:38
We got the Monday night game.
01:45:39
We got the Chicago Bears traveling to Los Angeles to face the Rams.
01:45:43
Eight Kickoff.
01:45:45
Who? You got corn? I got the ramps. 21 14.
01:45:50
The Rams, They play good.
01:45:52
They're playing at home, and I mean, I like Nicki.
01:45:56
I like I like Nicki man, but, uh, I like that best defense too.
01:46:00
But ultimately, I ram, they're gonna take it out.
01:46:03
21 14 Rams.
01:46:06
Who you got? Um, you know what? Qantas? A really good pick.
01:46:09
Um, I hate Chicago.
01:46:11
There were there, actually.
01:46:14
They're terrible organization to traveling.
01:46:17
Cross country.
01:46:18
Give me the Rams.
01:46:19
Give me the Rams 18 to 13.
01:46:23
I'm not sold on Jared golf, but I think they could squeeze out.
01:46:26
I think Aaron Donald is a generational type of defensive tactics.
01:46:32
Okay, Who? You gotta be another generational talent on the other side.
01:46:38
Probably. Mac.
01:46:39
Yeah, I got Chicago winning this.
01:46:41
Give me a generational town has already been trained it.
01:46:44
That's generational shore.
01:46:45
Well, hey, hey, Don't run the front office.
01:46:48
He just makes the plays on the field.
01:46:50
Uh, e don't know how that sometimes I'm not really sure how Chicago is winning games, but I mean, outside of their defense, But they they make it happen.
01:47:02
They make it happen.
01:47:03
So I I just got him pulling this one out.
01:47:06
Gut feeling.
01:47:07
Uh, hey, I'm Bob one there, five, but they have a better record.
01:47:12
So before you and they're beating some good teams, so I don't know where you wanna go with this one.
01:47:16
What? Do you have a real line on this one? I You know that that's gonna be a hard game to win.
01:47:22
They're coming across the they're coming across.
01:47:24
It's gonna be hard.
01:47:26
They're going to l A E.
01:47:29
Uh, yeah, I know that.
01:47:32
But the Ramses 2 g, they're just too strong at home.
01:47:34
They have too much firepower.
01:47:37
Jalen Ramsey's I mean, he's by far the best corner in the league.
01:47:42
The defense plays stellar.
01:47:44
I mean, Aaron, Donald, like like that was just a generational talent by far.
01:47:49
That's gonna be hard for them to come over and make that turn over.
01:47:53
It's gonna be hard.
01:47:54
That's all right.
01:47:55
Oh, I might I might want to get on this one.
01:47:59
What they given that given the beds 5.
01:48:01
5 points.
01:48:03
Oh, e s This is a good game to you.
01:48:09
Could make a lot of money betting on this game because it's kind of close, but you can also kind of sway.
01:48:14
Either way, you gotta say the Rams.
01:48:17
So when they lose, I get a game on you.
01:48:19
Yeah.
01:48:20
So I was I was gonna say so.
01:48:21
These are the type picks, man.
01:48:22
When we doing my otr pick him that can put you ahead on the on the standards.
01:48:27
So yeah, I'm going to rams, though.
01:48:28
I'm going Rams 24 20.
01:48:30
But I like that pick.
01:48:31
Yeah, I do.
01:48:32
Like that pick is crazy.
01:48:33
I'm picking the Rams to win otr pick him.
01:48:35
But I might put some money on the Bears and that 5.
01:48:37
5 points 1000%? Yeah, like the last second field goal could easily winning.
01:48:42
You still get paid the big bucks that was stacked on it.
01:48:45
Yeah. Yeah.
01:48:46
So listen, man fellas, that that was That's the show.
01:48:49
The long ass show way.
01:48:52
I didn't expect Stan Van Gundy thio draw e didn't expect standing.
01:49:03
I need to draw such conversation, But it was a good conversation nevertheless.
01:49:08
So Listen, man, it's the time of the show where I give you guys a chance to drop some **** and closing, man.
01:49:16
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01:49:45
Be any remarks and closing, man.
01:49:47
I tried to give you 10 seconds earlier in the show to throw your shots, but didn't even any closing any parting shots or anything you got? Yeah, No parting shots.
01:49:58
Enjoy your weekend.
01:49:59
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01:50:00
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Uh, and last but not least, man, I guess our special guest man, we're gonna We're gonna leave an open invitation for him any time he wants to join us on Saturday morning just to do the show.
01:50:18
But oh, man.
01:50:20
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So look, man, let's jump right into it, man. Recently.
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So the playoffs is over, you know, but Alex is reminding us who won the championship, of course, and I'm sure he'll do that each week.
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But the NBA is probably 3 65 league, right? So there's already already been some news in the NBA.
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Um, and it's been pertaining to some coaches and higher.
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So we wanted to get into that.
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I want to get you guys opinion on some of the new coaches that were, um That would hire recently.
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So look, I'm gonna be honest with you this first.
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This first name I'm about to do out there, I'm gonna need some help pronouncing this dude's name but the paper.
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But the Pacers.
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Well, let's start with the Pacers.
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The Pacers hired.
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I know his first name.
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You'll help me with the last name Pacers hired the assistant from the legal system from the Toronto Raptors.
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Jordan, hey, is on the job, right.
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Being silent.
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Okay, Jordan in Georgia, George, don't even think I'm pronouncing it. Right.
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So we're gonna call him Nate BJ.
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Okay.
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Uh, well, Georgia, Georgia and okay, we'll call them that.
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So this is probably, I guess the not, you know, not the most.
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The ***iest pick, I guess of the higher so far.
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So I don't know what you guys know about this dude of anything, but, um, he's highly highly recommended by Nick Nurse, who is a championship coach.
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Um, he's been his lead assistant for a while now.
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So what do you guys feel about the patients going this route? I mean, I know there were some big names that were thrown out there.
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There were even some unexpected names.
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Um, that the pace that it looked like the Pacers might go that route. I know.
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It was There was talks of, you know, even Becky Hammon being in the running.
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Um, So what do you guys think about this pick? Um, yeah, right, Basically.
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But no thing about he's from the Toronto um, tree.
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Uh, Nick Nurses.
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Incredible coach, Coach of the year champion Coach.
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Ah, longtime assistant to Dwayne Casey.
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And once he sat in that big seat, he parlayed that leverage that to an incredible season last year and then Coach of the Year this year.
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So it fits the par for the course for the MBA to real copycat league.
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It's very tough to think outside the box as much of the MBA wants to be so progressive and all this and all that.
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In general, the billionaires pick coaches who they know they don't really straight too far out and go off the limb.
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And I'm sure down the line we'll talk about what the Brooklyn Nets did and how they actually did go a little off reservation.
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But this guy, I mean, you know, Indiana is a small market team, so this guy probably gets a 34 year deal.
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Doesn't have to get paid that much.
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And, of course, we know.
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With India losing hundreds of millions this year, a teams, especially small market teams, aren't spend a lot of money on coaches.
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So why not, You know, mhm.
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I agree. I agree.
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Small market area, small market team.
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Uh, they don't really have the expectations of winning anything big as of right now, So they have the chance, and, you know they have the opportunity to be in the rebuilding stage.
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This guy comes from the tree of, you know, the Toronto Raptors.
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They became a winning or went in the organization.
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And so I mean, pretty much let's see what you can dio.
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I mean, it's not gonna hurt.
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It's not gonna help.
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Well, why not gonna say that? We'll see.
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We'll see if it's gonna help because, like I said, he comes from the came from that organization from from the rafters and like you said, it's a copycat league, so they may want to, you know, from what it looks like they want some type of organization, or they want some type of coach to come in.
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And that's gonna bring some type of winning attitude to that to that team.
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So only time will tell.
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Wait, what do you think about the movie? I mean, I don't I don't know much about the guy, Really.
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I mean, his assistant coaching resume is solid.
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Um, but I think that's just kind of like the trend, like in an MBA.
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And I mean, even in NFL, like bringing in a guy who's not particularly on anybody else's radar.
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Um, looking for, you know, like a fresh start.
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Um e because as you alluded to it, I mean, there's a lot of a lot of other coaches out there is just like, all right, how many more chances we're going to give these people? You know, um, they might hold us over, Whereas you go with this guy who may not be, you know, on everybody else's radar.
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He could be the one thio to build up the team.
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Teoh, I don't know to get them where they wanna go.
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I mean, you look Nick nurse, um ****.
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Uh, who who the hell knew Knew who Nick nurse was before he was in, You know, in Toronto.
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I mean, I don't know.
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It just I don't know too much about the guy.
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Let's see what he does.
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But I do think this is one of those Hey, you know, we need a We need a voice that folks aren't tired of in the locker room.
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Somebody knew somebody with energy.
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Hey, probably knows his exes and oh's see what he's got.
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Yeah.
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So? So, Alex, you know, you are a resident MBA insider.
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Eso what do you What do you think about this? Move where you surprised at it? I know D'Antoni was mentioned for this position.
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Andi.
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It looked like he had it all locked up.
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It looked like they were gonna go that he was gonna go that route, that the Pacers would go that route.
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So what do you think about this move? I mean, oftentimes see, So just kind of three breads and so it Zisis, you do.
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We never really heard about Jen opportunity.
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I mean, look, man.
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Ah, lot of people didn't want Frank Vogel to get another opportunity with Los Angeles, and then it ended up in the championship.
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You got to hear end up in a championship.
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The liquor.
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Okay, you've got their debt.
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So I mean, like, it's it's nice to It's nice to hear these guys that we don't know about the opportunity.
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That's it.
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I did think D'Antoni was gonna be God, But let's also call what is man the NBA this season going to take a dip and and money somewhere around, uh, I believe 100 million, Possibly a billion dollars in lost revenue.
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They'll make that money long term.
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That's not so much of an issue.
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But when you're talking about small market teams, E, let's just let's just call it what it is.
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The Pacers ever gonna attract the big name.
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Probably not, right.
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So why not give this guy a shot? I mean, their two best players of Malcolm Brogdon and Victor Oladipo and Oladipo Um, he's got when you left on his deal.
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So if you decide toe bounce next season, like what long term established coach is gonna come in there and your best player leaves next year and then what is Indiana? So give the guy shot.
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If it works out great, I mean, Indiana had no expectations at best.
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They make it to the second stick around.
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That's a win for a team like Indiana.
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No one expects them to compete for a championship.
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Yeah, I agree.
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I mean, I think you all touched on it.
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I think you know it's time to see some new faces in the league, Man.
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Um, I don't know if you guys think on, and I'll ask you this question quickly and y'all could chime in.
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It seems like the re tread situation with the coaches.
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It seems like it's not as bad in the NBA as it is in the NFL.
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I could be wrong.
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It seems like you may see an MBA.
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Um, like the Nick nurses and the guys that Steve Kurds, those guys who want the Steve Nashes, who didn't have any coaching experience getting jobs.
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We keep seeing in the N B in the NFL, the Mike McCarthy's and and these guys keep getting jobs and then high profile job.
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So that would I see you.
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It's on the edge of this one.
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What do you think, man e? I wasn't it.
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And I got poison ivy on my hand.
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Um No, no.
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Here's a couple of things.
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Member NFL old money you're talking.
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The Chicago beer has been out forever.
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Philadelphia Eagles forever.
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Washington red football, Whatever you call them. Been out forever.
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So a lot of old money, their, um their owners probably averaging age 55 6 years old, Mbah a little bit younger ownerships.
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Um, so they actually and and a lot of the NBA guys, our tech guys.
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So they actually do give a better chance of trying new things, but they do a lot of re treads in the N.
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B.
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I know we're gonna talk on Stan Van Gundy and his terrible higher from New Orleans soon.
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Um, Alvin Gentry.
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Doc Rivers gets a job every two weeks.
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Um, it's just it's so comfortable to be safe.
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And I get it.
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If you was a billionaire, I would play it safe to possibly.
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But it's the NFL is old money, so they just recycle the same bums literally.
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The same bums get jobs.
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It doesn't even matter.
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So you know im you jumped ahead one.
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But I'm gonna start with that.
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The one you just mentioned.
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Um, this this might be of the hires.
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This might be the most surprising.
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Maybe to me, it is, uh, stay.
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Van Gundy was hired to lead the young New Orleans pelicans.
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I mean, listen, they got a bunch of bunch of talent down there, man.
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So what do you guys think about this fit, man? Let's start.
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I'm gonna start with you, and I'm gonna throw it back to you.
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You kinda You kinda mentioned how you feel about it.
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But, um, let me.
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So let me ask you this question.
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Why don't you think this? Why don't you think this is a good fit? I think Stan Van Gundy is actually a really nice guy.
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It's like Ron Rivera.
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I mean, they're really nice guys.
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I would probably get a cup of coffee with them.
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You know, I think they're really good as an everyday coach.
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And the grind, you understand when you're talking about 82 games, 67 months.
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I mean, these guys grind of, they grind out, man, and that's why a great coach like Phil Jackson can't do anymore.
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And you see guys like Popovich like Tim Duncan.
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You coach tonight cause I'm just tired.
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I'm 69 years old.
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I'm tired standing, standing.
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Let's look over his last four years.
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Okay, let's look over his last four years in Detroit, where he had total.
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Okay, I'm talking about total power.
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Can you imagine having total power If you're married, have a girlfriend.
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We know we don't have total power, so imagine having total power.
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You win.
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Let's go back.
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Say you win 32 games.
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44 games, 37 games, 39 games and you get guess how many playoff wins you have? I mean, just guys, these guys were actually.
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Let me ask you this.
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Daequan.
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How many playoff wins did you have last year? Okay, and that's how many Stan Van Gundy head after four years. Guys.
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Three guys.
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A panicky, sweaty disaster.
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He's a master mechanic, as the great Shaquille O Neal said, but he's a really nice guy, and he's a solid commentator.
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I actually know his brother's terrible, so he gets the mute button, but standing see, it's okay to listen to, huh? Jeff? Jeff Jeff.
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Jeff Van Gundy.
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He you know he should have something.
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Raising the Raptors at the Garden, you know? You know what? This reminds me off.
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This'll whole higher like.
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And just like you said, he's a nice guy.
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Okay? He's a beautiful guy, Really cool.
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You know, he has some type of flair when it comes to his interviews, right? I've seen him, and he kind of seems like he's a guy that he just kind of speaks from the cuff.
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He doesn't really hold anything.
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You know, he just says what he feels right.
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But to me, it kind of feels as if this was this is this is this goes back to this goes back to when he was coaching with the magic and when he had Dwight Howard, Young Dwight, our you know, he was kind of somewhat tryingto, you know, I mean, they were They were a playoff team at the time.
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They were young team coming up.
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And so now it seems as if, like they're trying to put him in the position with Zion.
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Now you have the young center, you know, you got you got a young squad.
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You got a young team that z I want to say what I wanna say. Up and coming.
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But you have some.
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You have some talent pieces.
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Really nice.
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You have a few pieces that let me be the voice of reason.
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Oh, I'm e I was just I was just gonna say that.
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That's what it feels like.
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That's the only thing it feels like to me is that is just the whole redo process off when he was with the when he was with Orlando.
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That's That's what it feels like to me.
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I don't really see them.
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I don't want to see them doing anything.
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Go ahead.
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Yeah, mhm.
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Listen, listen, listen.
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I think the Stan Van Gundy higher is actually a really good for New Orleans source off.
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Let's go back this time in Miami like I think I'm wrong.
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I'll do in Miami.
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You know, I think you got five years because Pat Riley saw an opportunity for him to get an extra ring.
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That's number one number two, I think when you're looking at Orlando, the Orlando team over TV man like that Orlando team did really well during a time when Kobe was in his prime and LeBron was doing his thing.
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They beat LeBron and oh, by the way, ran into my ship.
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Agent Bleeker's okay, it's like staying band got wrong there.
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Then you look into Detroit and let's just be honest, did anyone believe that Blake Griffin and Andre Drummond and Reduction was gonna leave Detroit to anything like a well but voice of reason? Voice of reason.
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They made a major trade for for Blake.
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They should have at least been able to get out the first round.
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He was a team president.
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He signed Blake Griffin E.
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He should get Blake Griffin 1013.
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Q b.
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It doesn't matter.
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He waas 20 power.
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I don't understand how he gets a pass for having total power and no way a bad coach okay for, like that overachieve.
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You don't think that Orlando team over achieved? They know they were pretty.
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They came, They showed out.
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They had they had.
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I mean, how would they had tremendous a finals? Yeah, they did something.
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They played out.
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And then I guess everything exploded, you know, exploded when you know everything came out with Dwight Howard thrown shot.
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No fan.
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But I mean a shock.
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Fans don't even mention that guy.
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Well, yes, but he also want to be in Orlando because Dwight Howard, like Stan Van Gundy, being a master of panic, sweaty, sweaty punk.
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That's what he is.
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A.
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He's a nice guy.
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E stand and look.
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He's like he's a very knowledgeable guy, a basketball for New Orleans to get better.
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Obviously, they they are young, and youth does not typically win in the MBA.
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So for them to get better, they need somebody there who will coach them.
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If there's anything that Stan Van Gundy will do, regardless of whatever the result is at the end of this, he he is going to try to coach them on the fundamentals of basketball I posted.
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Look, I didn't look Stan Van Gunny.
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He's got skills himself.
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I posted a clip on Twitter and him doing that little crossover thing like, Yeah, I didn't know he had that in him, But I mean, but he stands at Dundee.
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I mean, just the Van Gundy's in general, these air guys that that have been around basketball for a very long time.
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Van Gundy still has energy.
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Um, and so I think that is gonna take a lot of energy, is gonna take a lot of knowledge to get the pelicans to the next step.
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Now, overall, if you want to talk about because this this is This is the bottom line lead.
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You know we want W's.
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I think Van Gundy will make the Pelicans a better team, but I don't know how much better like this.
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I think Alvin Gentry is a decent coach.
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He always gets jobs, though, where he's got to come in and he's got to coach the young guys.
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He had it in Phoenix.
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He's got to coach the young guys and they bring them over the Republicans.
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He's got to coach the young guys like I think he but he coaches those pieces up standing on a professional coach.
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No, he's a professional coach and he's not a bad guy.
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So it's almost like I think, people taking I'm not dissing him.
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I'm not dissing him. He's a really nice guy.
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He's gonna really love the video.
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He's a really nice e wasn't this, and I'm just saying this is another re tread.
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Ho hum higher.
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He's a professional coach, though.
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He's like Ron Rivera for the what my e What they do, they do because they're gonna have to Max players and they had a detention cell on New Orleans.
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But if they don't have expectations, then Why not hire someone like Oh, that feels good.
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Go ahead, go ahead.
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They don't have any expectations.
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The longest.
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The Lakers on the Lakers. The Clippers on the Clippers. Defer.
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Defer the Warriors about like they had.
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No expectation, man, they're not.
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Uh huh.
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Maybe get into the playoffs.
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But then you get inside and you get ran out by the Lakers Clippers of Denver.
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What expectations do they really? Four years away, they were years away.
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Not 13 to 4 to 3 to 4 years from, like 3 to 4 years.
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From what? Making the playoffs? Yeah, like the bar shin.
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And be that low and education.
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I agree.
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And if they don't have expectations, that why not hire someone that you can look at me? Look at Minnesota car time founded an all Star, but no, no.
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See, you have a point.
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You have a valid you have.
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You have a he's not like What are we doing? But if they don't have expectation that, why not hire someone like Indiana did? If that's your bar, why hire a 70 year old swing E? It's a process because e think more of it because it's a bigger market.
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Just like we talked about it.
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Like Indiana Small Market, New Orleans.
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Bigger market.
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You guys sign Williams saying he was the first pick.
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You know, you have a lot going with that.
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So, you know, you gotta You gotta take that someone into consideration, Okay? So let me just let me jump in here real quick.
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You learn the expectations, huh? Well, let me just say this part.
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Now. Occupy it.
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The expectations should be not losing your superstar in law.
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Chris.
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Paul. They lost Anthony Davis. Expectations be not.
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How would you have a for the win championship? That's people there with.
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Could they could they? Could the higher be coach? Could the higher be based off brand could the higher be based off of what they seen standing ain't gonna do with a young Dwight Howard That's on said That's what kwon said earlier.
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And that was 15 years ago.
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So I don't know how much that even gets played.
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E mean then and then, you know, what did you do with Dwight Howard? He left like Hollande just said okay, But I mean, play for a sweaty meeting.
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You know that that team didn't I mean, sometimes things just go.
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Sometimes things just go bad.
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Go ahead. My, my bad.
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But it was Orlando like shock last along.
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A Why did Pat Riley say small? In Orlando? We owe airport in America.
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They do offend Thio, right? So that's 23 times that People have said that it's better than I did the Racist city.
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Yeah, I mean, come on, I wouldn't call it faces Sick Who? Hey, Parker.
00:25:07
Who? Who? What other coaches? Eso Let me let me let me say this right quick and I wanna shout out out guy Brian, who's who's part of the ball, is left podcast on a crossover media.
00:25:19
He said SPG will place an actual defensive system in place, and I mean, like, like I said in the opening, you know, we know New Orleans has some talent and they, you know, they showed that they could make some noise a young, So maybe the higher was based off of getting somebody in there a little older that can get a hold of this team.
00:25:41
Wouldn't let them just run wild.
00:25:44
Give him some structure, especially on the defensive end.
00:25:47
E no, it's he's a professional coach.
00:25:51
He's been around.
00:25:52
He's been around forever.
00:25:55
Why not Nate McMillan, though, who's actually won a playoff game in the last 50 years? Think how too much, Too much.
00:26:03
I mean, like, you know, I think this is how I know this is serious.
00:26:08
If New Orleans in a right angle, was up for a Max extension, if New Orleans lets him walk, they're not seriously competing there.
00:26:16
All right, so it doesn't matter who they were brought in.
00:26:17
As a coach, they're not. There isn't spending money.
00:26:19
That's a good point.
00:26:20
And that's what it boils down to.
00:26:21
Are you willing to go into the tax to produce a championship team? When they got they got when they got Ingram coming up, they got so coming up after that, then they got Zion.
00:26:33
They're going to spend some money.
00:26:34
And I know Georgia Benson, who is the Saints owner.
00:26:37
Uh, she's terrible, too, but you know, you have a day.
00:26:42
Let's see if she lets see if she was the Don't go up Well said, I'll be honest.
00:26:52
I didn't expect Yeah, yeah.
00:26:57
SPG sparked a heated debate.
00:27:00
Right? Be honest.
00:27:01
I did that coming either.
00:27:02
I didn't expect the SPG conversation to go a Sfar as it did, but hey, good. Whatever.
00:27:08
So and I'm glad I skipped to it What I did because I was actually going to go to this higher first, which I think is the least surprising higher of the three.
00:27:18
We have Ty Lue.
00:27:20
I'm signing with the Clippers to take over that team.
00:27:24
Of course we know.
00:27:25
Hey, and Brian's in here.
00:27:27
Brian is Ah, clip fan.
00:27:29
So I'm glad he's in here.
00:27:30
I hope he you know, he makes it a clippers fan.
00:27:34
S o I mean, Brian, I would like, you know, if you could put in the chat box your thoughts on the higher, but fellas, Ty Lue taking over the Clippers, he was already there.
00:27:46
He was an assistant s.
00:27:48
I'm gonna start.
00:27:50
I'm gonna start with you be This was a great a great time.
00:27:54
I think it was.
00:27:55
I think it was a great hire for the Clippers.
00:27:58
Um, he's already been there.
00:28:00
He's got the experience to me.
00:28:02
He's got the pedigree.
00:28:03
He's got the ability to relate to the players.
00:28:05
He's got the basketball knowledge again.
00:28:08
He's already been there.
00:28:09
I think I think part of? Well, I'll leave it at that.
00:28:15
But, I mean, I think the Clippers are going to be just as good, if not if not better, next year.
00:28:23
I think this was I think this was a great hire man.
00:28:28
Um, yeah, I'm sorry.
00:28:30
Um ah.
00:28:31
1000% huge Ty Lue fan.
00:28:34
I remember when he had the straight back and the old one finals when Iverson stepped over him.
00:28:38
A sad day and Laker Lord, but we got over.
00:28:41
Um, you gotta once again the thing about Doc and doctors.
00:28:47
Okay, Coach, He's good.
00:28:48
He's a championship coach.
00:28:49
Whatever that means.
00:28:51
Um, I think he plays more golf than he grinds, though.
00:28:56
And once again, this is a grind.
00:28:59
You gotta be at this job, like, 10 12 hours a day.
00:29:03
You gotta basically want to die on that **** court.
00:29:06
These coaches are crazy.
00:29:08
Okay, Tyler, who has the energy? He has the championship expertise.
00:29:13
He knows that the clippers need a point guard.
00:29:15
The roach.
00:29:16
I mean, Pat Beverley is just not it.
00:29:18
Um, so it's a slam dunk higher.
00:29:24
He works for the richest owner, so the money is gonna be good.
00:29:26
He's gonna get whatever he needs.
00:29:29
It's a slam dunk here in L. A.
00:29:31
Hey, wasn't ever going to Houston E just I think part of Doc Rivers moving on was was to allow Tyronn Lue toe have this chance almost like, you know, a Ty Lue probably deserved to have a head coaching job before he became the assistant coach of the Clippers on And, you know, hey, other coaches have been set up for for these type of hires before.
00:30:00
Now Doc Rivers is kind of doing that for for his own.
00:30:05
However, you want to define that and I think him walking away part of that is knowing that Tyronn Lue he's gonna be able t o you know, take this team going forward.
00:30:15
I respect that Zatz What good winners do? They should be doing stuff like that.
00:30:20
But Doc also was playing 36 holes of golf a day.
00:30:24
I e just put off has a lot of good golf courses, So let me let me let me let me quote getting here quote.
00:30:34
What do you What do you think of the Thai Lou hired man for the Clippers? It's a great it's a I think It's a great opportunity for I'm happy for him.
00:30:41
I think, except, you know, he's came into the league.
00:30:45
He used to like that.
00:30:46
Who said he played in the league when he had straight backs and, you know, obviously over him.
00:30:52
I remember that, Alex.
00:30:53
I was at your house watching the playoffs that night, you know, and to see where he's came to see where he's going now.
00:31:01
I think it's, I think it's great.
00:31:02
You know, he knows the system.
00:31:04
He knows the players, you know.
00:31:06
Nothing was ever given to him like you see a lot of coaches that coming out in out the league, you know, e he's earned his stripes, you know? So I think it's I think it's great.
00:31:17
I think it's a good opportunity for him.
00:31:19
And like I said, he knows the system knows the players and kudos to Doc Rivers, man, if that was the case, you know, to walk away from it and to let that man have ah, you know, opportunity Thio, you know, win a championship or attempt to win a championship.
00:31:34
Hey, man, I'm all for it.
00:31:36
I'm all for it.
00:31:37
Great. Higher.
00:31:38
So, Alex, I kept you last, man.
00:31:42
Because this is your cross town rival.
00:31:44
Um, there wasn't.
00:31:46
There was a thought that I would get the Lakers job before Vogel did.
00:31:50
What do you think about this? Higher man does this does this does this scary? Does it scare you at all? I mean, he is a good coach.
00:31:58
He is a championship coach.
00:31:59
Does this? Does this scare you at all? Which a cross town rival? What? Do your overall thoughts about the higher man? Yeah.
00:32:11
Doesn't scare me.
00:32:12
Way of 17 championships.
00:32:14
2% No.
00:32:16
Made out in second round. Carrie.
00:32:18
Oh, let me explain something, Thio.
00:32:23
Doc Rivers is overrated.
00:32:24
Alright? And that's conversation for another show.
00:32:26
All right, I understand.
00:32:28
Everybody's, you know, giving them a school whatsoever.
00:32:30
Listen, the Clippers are the Clippers got the Bryant, and he hopes, clips that his credential Clippers rider um, he's my guy.
00:32:39
Um but the Clippers are the Clippers.
00:32:41
They will always be not second, not three, not four, but have always been the very bottom when it comes to L.
00:32:48
A sports behind the Dodgers behind the sparks e behind everybody in l.
00:32:52
A man like I don't care How much money? Bummer.
00:32:55
Heads.
00:32:56
The Clippers are just They suck, man A and Tyler.
00:33:02
I'm glad he got an opportunity.
00:33:04
E think he's a really good coach.
00:33:05
I actually thought he was someone that leaders should have hired last offseason.
00:33:08
He was on my short list.
00:33:09
Got efficient.
00:33:10
Black better.
00:33:12
Obviously, I'm going to give over when out for us.
00:33:15
But I'm my Tyler.
00:33:17
Like I know some people think that he you know, because LeBron he might like he might know LeBron and have his kryptonite.
00:33:24
You good luck, E.
00:33:26
I mean, the couple is gonna cook, Man, I don't think they're gonna be better next year.
00:33:30
I don't think so.
00:33:31
I think that is good.
00:33:32
Today were this year.
00:33:33
It's gonna hurt in the West.
00:33:36
And you know, that's cute.
00:33:38
No.
00:33:39
When I'm focused on championships, not second or third player eso as he mentioned, man.
00:33:46
I'll God, Brian Man, who Who is the n b A credential? Uh, writer.
00:33:51
And he covers the clippers.
00:33:53
So shout out to him.
00:33:54
And, um and he he's the host of the clips.
00:33:59
That podcast.
00:34:00
And, of course, like I said, ball is left.
00:34:02
Co host of those podcasts can I reiterate something.
00:34:06
Shout out to him.
00:34:07
But this is Yeah. This is what he said, Ryan.
00:34:09
Thanks.
00:34:10
Tide will place a modern offensive system in place, willing to make adjustments.
00:34:13
That Doc wouldn't go.
00:34:14
What you got to say to that? I have to agree with my brother Alex.
00:34:17
Um, the Clippers.
00:34:19
I mean, I don't call them a cross town rival.
00:34:22
Like I was there when the **** Richardson Clipper days like the Darius Miles days like they're not rival.
00:34:29
They're they're nice.
00:34:31
They're not even the mets, you know.
00:34:33
I know you got the Yankees and the Mets.
00:34:35
The Mets at least, like a good sometimes, but we agreed that we agreed to MBA Was was setting it up.
00:34:43
Thio clash in L.
00:34:46
A.
00:34:47
Right.
00:34:48
I guess it was corny.
00:34:49
I never like anyone that's watched.
00:34:50
More than three years of basketball knows the Clippers Are the Clippers there? Not like it's there.
00:34:57
Come on.
00:34:58
They should pay the l A sports arena again.
00:34:59
They don't even deserted me at Staples.
00:35:00
We gotta cover their banners up like I don't whatever.
00:35:05
I'm old also also Brian believe eniac Atkinson will take over to play a development That's a great coach.
00:35:13
Great.
00:35:14
He got he got a raw deal in Brooklyn.
00:35:16
He got a raw deal, but then again, we're not behind the scenes.
00:35:19
And if the star player ain't feeling you, let me tell you something about NBA coaches.
00:35:23
They're hired to be fired.
00:35:25
I don't give a **** who you are.
00:35:27
You are hired to be fired.
00:35:29
You will be fired in three or four years.
00:35:31
It doesn't matter if the star player ain't feeling you.
00:35:34
You are out of it.
00:35:35
And that's what's gonna happen to Stan Van Gundy.
00:35:36
We opened last three years, but I could see it going left real quick.
00:35:42
Well, uh, Kenny Atkinson didn't come off as a as a.
00:35:48
I think Brooklyn needed a coach that that was open to players suggestions, I'll say rather mildly, Um, and Kenny Atkinson, you know, he's got experience is a coach.
00:36:04
Um, obviously, he did a pretty good job in Brooklyn developing those players out there.
00:36:12
So I think with other folks coming in, maybe it just it may be.
00:36:17
Just wouldn't have been a good a good fit.
00:36:21
I don't know.
00:36:23
I think Steve Nash, you know Kevin Durant, They come in the time out.
00:36:27
You know Kevin Durant, then running the running, the huddle or whatever.
00:36:29
Steve Nash, you know, just like yeah, yeah.
00:36:31
You know, when you come off that pick do that whereas Kenya Carson probably like, Hey, I'm the coach.
00:36:36
Your player? A I'm sorry, Brian.
00:36:41
Making some really good points here.
00:36:42
Um, yeah, it essentially, you said players suggestion because Kyrie a said we're gonna take turns because we don't really need coach.
00:36:54
You don't see it as having a coach a player suggestions that just delicious.
00:36:59
Yeah, it's like it's like a you know, the whole cliche about the locker room, the huddle like you have thio regardless of everybody's ability to do whatever role that they're playing you have, you're dealing with people.
00:37:14
You have to be able to mesh personalities.
00:37:18
And so, yeah, a job that's the job is mentioned personalities and actually listening and and not, you know, my way or the highway types.
00:37:32
I mean, the Bobby Knight days of coaching the John Thompson days, the Jim Boeheim days them ****s is over.
00:37:39
Dog e s.
00:37:43
So I mean perfect segue way talking about the next man.
00:37:47
Listen, it's not it's not often you hear much media coverage or much hubbub over an assistant coach Higher.
00:37:55
So I want to throw this to on the screen, right? I wanna get you guys opinion.
00:37:59
No.
00:38:00
So this guy right here is now eyes now.
00:38:04
Assistant coach.
00:38:06
A market started my required by Steve Nash like e a body started buying.
00:38:18
Was hired by Steve Nash as a zone assistant coach man, now way.
00:38:28
All know a bar started mind takes hey, takes red wine baths, and this is on.
00:38:36
Maybe he will maybe maybe he will put weight in the bad blood.
00:38:41
Uh, maybe he will put Katie in Kyrie onto this This practice, man.
00:38:47
So, uh, what do you guys think? Maher Stoudemire, Man getting a shot to be an assistant coach.
00:38:54
Man going to start with you Bring a za player I'm gonna marry.
00:39:02
Started my fan.
00:39:04
I uh huh.
00:39:08
I don't know.
00:39:09
I I don't know.
00:39:10
Well, I did say, you know, you got national Amara Stoudemire's so one thing that they will be teaching and practice is the pick and roll.
00:39:16
And I think the two man game with Kyrie and K D uh, if you can, you know manipulate the game to where it's down late.
00:39:24
And, uh, you know, you're running the two men with Kyrie and K D pick and roll having they ran it in, You know, in Phoenix that's pretty deli.
00:39:34
Because, you know, Katie control if the hedge defender, you know, steps up, they got to step up the Kyrie.
00:39:40
Otherwise, you're gonna give a three point shot and they step up. You got to switch off.
00:39:44
You got Katie on a mismatch.
00:39:46
They I think that's what that's what they're gonna go to.
00:39:51
They gonna perfect that.
00:39:53
It's gonna be hard to stop, but I don't know.
00:39:59
That's if they ever, ever get the plan together.
00:40:02
I'm a Knicks fan, so I I don't really want to say too many positive things about the next right now.
00:40:09
What do you think, Juan? About a Murray and his wine bass, You know, getting a shot of being assistant coach, man, I didn't know he took red wine.
00:40:21
*******.
00:40:25
E mean yeah, Zed.
00:40:28
Wanna let the bathroom read one? It's the guy in the shirt looking at him.
00:40:32
It's like creeping me out.
00:40:34
Well, being well, I take that still is there.
00:40:37
Don't you e still reserved E man actually being interviewed in this picture.
00:40:48
That's why the guy is there.
00:40:49
But yeah, you can read up about it, man.
00:40:52
He said he said his health benefits and all of that.
00:40:55
Okay, great.
00:40:56
Taking red wine bath.
00:40:57
So Okay. All right.
00:40:59
Cool. Alright.
00:41:00
Um, yo, e, I don't Yeah, I'm with I don't I don't know if it's gonna be.
00:41:07
I mean, I don't know, man.
00:41:08
I don't really know what to say about that.
00:41:10
Like, I'm a firm believer, and I'm a firm advocate.
00:41:15
And people, whatever opportunities you get, you know, you take it and run with it, and you know, it can come from anywhere.
00:41:23
So I mean, shout out to Steve Nash for providing my stock my opportunity to coach.
00:41:28
I just don't know what this ****'s gonna lead.
00:41:32
You know what I mean? I don't I mean, what are you Are you drinking the red wine? You drink water, if that's you.
00:41:42
Yeah.
00:41:43
I mean, look, coaches have some type of all coaches, whatever they do.
00:41:46
I mean, you know, someone normal, some of abnormal, You know what I mean? Whatever.
00:41:49
You know, some people may have some type of ritual, whatever they do, all right.
00:41:53
I mean, he's knowledgeable, he's played and he's played in the league, so I mean, he has some knowledge of the game, and I mean, he can help.
00:42:05
So I just don't know where this is gonna lead, though I'm just, you know, I mean, I don't I don't know what's going to transpire from from the higher, but I mean, it's a It's a great opportunity for him.
00:42:15
Let's see what happens.
00:42:16
It's gotta be the royal.
00:42:17
What is, um Are you gonna tell Cady like Katie like kid, he's a better player, So I'm not sure.
00:42:24
I don't know.
00:42:25
Sorry.
00:42:27
So what do you What do you think, man? When you think about the marketing shot? A couple of things when I was talking when I when I totally forgot about tomorrow.
00:42:34
Be honest with you.
00:42:35
But then I realized he's actually underrated.
00:42:37
Now that guy was ****ing insane when he was playing with the the seven or Seconds or less sons insane.
00:42:44
He's a six time All Star.
00:42:45
He's actually underrated.
00:42:47
But as far as the coaching things being an assistant coach is, you know, it's like levels.
00:42:52
The coaching so I don't I don't know if he should have jumped to assistant coach, maybe player development.
00:42:58
Maybe help three or four days out the week or something like that.
00:43:01
But, um, like kwon says, like it's a great opportunity.
00:43:05
Try to **** out.
00:43:06
If it don't work, you could go spending $300 million go taking wine baths and reading the Torah like whatever.
00:43:13
It's fine, Alex.
00:43:16
Man, you got anything to throw in the Mari getting this job? Loretta amongst.
00:43:25
That's when a when a black man get a job.
00:43:26
That's number one.
00:43:27
Number two.
00:43:28
We know big men often don't get coaching positions.
00:43:29
So for National, look out and get it. Get a big man.
00:43:32
Is boy a job getting the shot? Mammy, Look, I'm all for saying this works in terms of coach apart.
00:43:39
I don't know about the red line bass, but hey, Jesus did turn water into wine.
00:43:43
So who am I to criticize? Red Line.
00:43:46
But well, say this.
00:43:49
I think everyone's talking way too much often.
00:43:51
That man, I really had to play more than 60 games in the season.
00:43:54
In recent years, K D is coming off the worst possible injury that anyone could have.
00:44:00
E wanna see them guys in the corporate while I'm talking about them doing anything.
00:44:04
Thanks.
00:44:06
Fair enough.
00:44:07
Fair enough.
00:44:08
Brian makes the point again.
00:44:09
Um, he said tomorrow will reignite the Andre DeAndre Jordan and possibly help develop Jared Allen.
00:44:15
Yeah, I mean, they do have They do have some.
00:44:18
Jared Allen is a talented guy.
00:44:20
I think he'll be.
00:44:21
I think he'll be one of the guys that he should e running around with him.
00:44:26
I think he's playing.
00:44:27
He should be playing more than DeAndre Jordan, by the way, who is super watch stuff? But I think I think that I think that Jared will end up being a part of a deal because I do think the Clippers, I mean, sorry.
00:44:37
I do think the Nets going to make another move.
00:44:41
Um, get that third player.
00:44:43
You get that third player.
00:44:44
So I think he'll probably end up being out of there.
00:44:46
But if he's not man, I think you know Mark Mark can help these young guys.
00:44:51
He can.
00:44:52
He can help the Andrea's well, man. So we'll see.
00:44:54
We'll see how it goes.
00:44:56
Yeah, DeAndre, Jordan.
00:44:58
When Dallas held him captive? No.
00:45:00
The clip.
00:45:01
The Clippers held them captive with a lot to the Lakers.
00:45:05
Yeah, I remember that when they locked up in the room, they would Would you hold that guy? Captain E.
00:45:14
I'm not sure.
00:45:15
What? What? Amar Ikan.
00:45:17
I mean, I don't know.
00:45:18
I don't I'm not sure what American Comptel DeAndre Jordan either.
00:45:21
I mean, the DeAndre Jordan's a vet.
00:45:22
He on his way.
00:45:24
He on his way out like he was a better defensive player Interior defensive player than Nomar Iwas.
00:45:32
He's a good runner to Yeah, he's a good remember.
00:45:37
And so I mean, so it was a mark.
00:45:38
I don't know.
00:45:40
I mean, Jared Allen.
00:45:41
I could definitely see him helping out Jared Allen's game.
00:45:44
And maybe maybe that's that's where that I mean, they already kind of run the pick and roll with him, but maybe a martikan sharpen him up there.
00:45:51
Um, I think Brian's point, I think that, you know, maybe a Mario light a fire under DeAndre again.
00:45:57
You're going coming into a season where if if you know, it's it's a big if.
00:46:04
But coming into a season where if k d is healthy and Kyrie is healthy.
00:46:10
They have a good cord, man.
00:46:12
So maybe this is, you know, maybe this will be what will like that fire under D. J again.
00:46:18
And you can get you know, that good 13 rebounds a game, you know, good.
00:46:24
Four or five dunks again.
00:46:26
That's and that's all you're asking for, high man.
00:46:31
I'm I agree with Alex, So I'm kind of interested in seeing the nets.
00:46:35
Like I got some question marks.
00:46:38
They got some killers.
00:46:40
I'm glad.
00:46:42
I'm glad you're on the East Coast, so we get to see a lot of Well, they gotta play first.
00:46:46
They haven't played together.
00:46:47
Yeah, that's the big.
00:46:49
That's a good start, but I e said this before we move on.
00:46:55
I'm glad to see it, man.
00:46:56
And you know what? Nash took a little bit of, ah, backlash because of the higher, um, you know, for for numerous reasons.
00:47:04
But ah, lot of it was because he didn't have any coaching hire, uh, coaching experience and then tow higher his his guy, who they did some things together on the court who also doesn't have coaching experience.
00:47:17
I think it was a ballsy move.
00:47:18
I like to see it, man.
00:47:20
So, kudos to him.
00:47:21
Well, I'm kind of reiterate.
00:47:24
I'm No, I'm talking so much, but because I have a lot to say and I sound good.
00:47:27
So check this out.
00:47:28
The thing about it, when we talked earlier about a free trade cycle in the NFL.
00:47:33
Old money.
00:47:34
Uh, NBA, you have a lot of retrace because they're older, but there's still a little bit more progressive.
00:47:40
You gotta understand, Alex.
00:47:42
Who is the owner of the Nets? Yes, I was just outside now, right? Who started Alibaba, right? Yeah, eso Right now, once again, we're thinking about owners.
00:48:02
These guys air These guys are a little bit younger, not per se an age, but thought patterns.
00:48:08
So he's thinking, Let me try Steve Nash.
00:48:10
So it all kind of falls into place of thes owners trying new things.
00:48:15
And if it works, it works.
00:48:16
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
00:48:17
But that's the life, right? The life is you don't really become a billionaire not trying ****, right? Eso Yeah. Thank you.
00:48:27
Okay, So before we move from the n b a man, I'm still there are still two vacancies so quickly.
00:48:33
Quickly.
00:48:34
Guys who do you see a za good fits for the Houston job, and then the Okay, see, job is open.
00:48:41
I know that there's been talks off stands, Brother, Uh, the other Van Gundy, The more popular Van Gundy Aziz being a possibility for Houston.
00:48:53
But then you also have names like, uh, Sam Cassell and and other guys like that.
00:48:59
So who would you like to see? Who would you like to see in Houston? And who would you? Who do you think would be a good fit for? Okay, *****.
00:49:10
Well, who's available? E.
00:49:12
You mentioned Castle? Who are the other coaches that are available? E a good question.
00:49:17
I mean, e a to this point.
00:49:23
Well, well, yeah.
00:49:25
Okay.
00:49:27
See, I e uh, the job.
00:49:30
Jesus.
00:49:31
How many? You have to be an assistant coach, and I would like to see Cassell get one of those jobs.
00:49:37
Yeah, I'll say that.
00:49:40
Listen, let me tell you what nobody else is gonna say, All right? Empathy Is the Brooks owner in the N B A.
00:49:47
If I was any black head coach candidate, I would be leery about taking that job in Houston.
00:49:55
It's just a reality, man.
00:49:56
Like pretty dicey.
00:49:59
He got rid of more who has been an excellent GM.
00:50:02
He got rid of Antoni, who has been an excellent head coach.
00:50:05
Like if your first time head coach, like maybe I could sell, Do you want? You could be ever first job with Tito, who's got money problems and all his other businesses.
00:50:14
I don't know if I want that.
00:50:15
I don't know, man and firm or you heard it here, man.
00:50:19
What's wrong, Harden? One of them and I both are gonna be gone within the next year from Houston.
00:50:23
Mark my words, E.
00:50:27
I totally agree.
00:50:29
I wouldn't want to that that wouldn't be my ideal coaching situation, but as a person who as a coach who's looking to prove himself and take that next step and get an opportunity, your temporary I mean, yeah, you've got you've got one of your superstars are probably gonna be gone.
00:50:47
But while he's there, you start winning some games.
00:50:51
You know, you start coaching for your next gig, I guess at least something he deserved, he deserves a look.
00:50:59
Yeah, well, the question is, if if if it if for Tina things that this is the championship roster and everybody with a brain knows that they're not gonna win. Check.
00:51:08
Appreciate it.
00:51:09
That's the expectation in Houston.
00:51:10
Then any coach that comes in is already gonna be on the hot seat.
00:51:13
And if your first time black coach, we know black coaches don't always get second opportunities.
00:51:19
Yeah, so, like, uh, they don't always get I always get the gig with James Harden coming in, though.
00:51:26
Usually.
00:51:27
Usually we've already got the slate has been cleaned.
00:51:30
Then they bring us in.
00:51:31
The slate hasn't been clean, so he still got hard.
00:51:35
So if it was used to get in now e o everything else know how I agree with you with It's not.
00:51:46
It's not an ideal situation The way that you just outlined it, it's not.
00:51:52
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
00:51:53
That's what I was saying, man.
00:51:54
Okay, See, I think would be a better fit for him because it seems like it's a little bit more in line with Houston.
00:52:00
Um, just a lot of things that are going on, just like you said, You know, they have superstars.
00:52:05
I mean, coming in and out now, this'll owner has issues, you know, money, money issues.
00:52:10
Um, a swell as things going on with his businesses.
00:52:14
Hey.
00:52:15
****.
00:52:16
Look, you don't want that on your head right now.
00:52:17
You just wanna come in.
00:52:18
You just want to kind of come in almost a coach.
00:52:19
You wanna be an ideal situation, but you don't wanna have the carpet, you know, flowing from under your feet a soon as you get there.
00:52:27
You know, you kind of want to get some timeto get acclimated with the system.
00:52:31
And I think Castle, I think he deserves that.
00:52:34
We just We've all agreed that he's been in the league.
00:52:36
He you know, he hasn't really had the opportunities as other coaches, so I mean, I think that would be ideo ideal fit for him.
00:52:45
What about you yet? E think they did hire G m e? Uh, I agree with Mr Battle like, Okay.
00:53:01
See, from a, uh, expectation level.
00:53:04
And like you said, as a first year head coach, you actually do want to, like, learn this **** and, like, get your feet wet, make a couple mistakes going to 34 game losing streak.
00:53:13
Figure this out or that guy I need this you need like it's a process and okay, see, is a wack city.
00:53:21
I never been, but I've heard.
00:53:22
But, you know, they got a lot of draft picks.
00:53:25
Why not? You know, I don't I don't know.
00:53:29
Houston's is ***ier, like destination, but like like Alex said, I mean, you one you one week away from not getting a paycheck as a head coach, So be careful.
00:53:42
Way all know, how will he gets when he don't get his paycheck? E I I've been wanting Console to get a job for a minute.
00:53:57
I don't know what's taking so long, man.
00:53:59
Like what? Typically the first thing that I think because this happened to Ewing as well.
00:54:04
You know, long time assistance, Uh, good players, you know, they're you know, they're good, solid coaches because the players that they work with speak well about him, the highly of them.
00:54:15
So the first thing I think of is like, maybe they're just bad interviewers.
00:54:19
Or maybe they just aren't going to come in and be that lap lap dog, so to speak.
00:54:26
I said, Doug, because that's what Sam Cassell probably would have said, saying from East Side Dunbar, represent, maybe, you know, maybe saying isn't just gonna take a job where he's gonna be the lamed up.
00:54:40
So maybe that's also maybe that's also holding him back as well.
00:54:44
But I feel like both of these.
00:54:46
I feel like, Man, both of these jobs aren't the greatest.
00:54:51
I feel like they are the most ideal.
00:54:53
Houston would be great.
00:54:54
It would be a great story because he played there.
00:54:57
Ain't wanted she won a couple of chips there, Um, but then, you know, with with Tim Fertitta and just like, you know, all the points that you all made, it's it's It's a dicey situation.
00:55:07
I do think that he's going to He's going to fire self that squad eso But I didn't I do agree with you as well.
00:55:17
Brandon, If he's going to take a job, if he's gonna have hard and for a year to then you know, I guess take that one.
00:55:24
But O.
00:55:25
K.
00:55:26
C.
00:55:27
Is a places well, where you're not going to draw a big free agents, so you have to build build your team through the draft and through trade.
00:55:33
So they've done a masterful job that they've done a great job at that.
00:55:37
So I don't know, man.
00:55:40
It za tough situation.
00:55:42
I'm sure.
00:55:44
I'm sure he has a spot next to Doc or spot next.
00:55:47
Thio, uh, Ty Lue if he wants to.
00:55:50
So stay your ass in l A another year, man.
00:55:54
See what opens up action, in my opinion, because so, man, the MBA man, that took a lot longer than I thought it would weigh.
00:56:03
Love that sport, man, We're about to move on into the NFL.
00:56:07
So, Alex, did you wanna stick around to talk about the A B things I know you don't wanna know MBA is.
00:56:13
I mean, NFL isn't your thing.
00:56:15
Or did we say peace and a dude to you at this moment? Yeah.
00:56:22
Yeah, I'm just a man thing to say about that trash league.
00:56:26
Someone fellows.
00:56:27
Thanks for jumping on, man.
00:56:31
We know he was busy today.
00:56:33
Shoutout to Alex and Los Angeles Lakers championship.
00:56:38
He's going let us know that for the rest of the year, I'm pretty sure, um, but yeah, not to be all done by the by the MBA.
00:56:46
It was a couple moves, um, in the NFL.
00:56:49
Man first, The first move was obviously Levian was released by the Jets and quickly signed with the Chiefs Man and the Chiefs.
00:56:59
It's not like the Chiefs is, you know, it's not like the chiefs of Sam's Club, you know, the chiefs looking like, you know, they Wagman you already, man s.
00:57:11
So what do you guys think about this signing man like the rich get richer as they say.
00:57:18
Man, what do you think I'm gonna start with? You be, um you want to talk about the A B one or the or the levian one first, do levian and we'll go to a bi ne.
00:57:30
Yeah, the rich kid, Richard the Chiefs e don't think they necessarily, uh, need levian.
00:57:37
But I say that knowing that, um, we've seen we've seen the injury bug hit pretty much every team.
00:57:47
And I mean, players get injured every year, but this year, it just seems like depth is even more of a concern.
00:57:55
Which is why they let you know teams carry more players on their roster yada, yada, yada.
00:58:00
And I think this is kind of like in an insurance type thing for Kansas City, because cause everyone's Hillary is obviously, um, they got it right with him.
00:58:11
They got a lot of Kansas City is beginning to write a lot.
00:58:16
And e don't know Levy on his.
00:58:19
He is, um I think he's obviously gonna be a role player.
00:58:23
They've got a lot of, uh, playmakers on the offensive side of the ball.
00:58:28
So he really doesn't have Thio.
00:58:31
He doesn't have a lot of pressure on the shoulders.
00:58:32
All he got to do is stay healthy and stay focused and do its thing.
00:58:37
So ****, they're gonna be hard.
00:58:41
They already hard.
00:58:42
Todo Yeah, I mean **** in in New York, but nobody's going **** in New York.
00:58:48
So that might have been just a environment thing.
00:58:52
But I will say the last thing I will say, Let's wait and see, because now that okay, it's it's gone from Pittsburgh.
00:59:00
And then, you know, for some reason, it didn't work there, you know? It worked.
00:59:04
It worked there.
00:59:05
It worked.
00:59:06
It worked, you know, he got injured or whatever.
00:59:09
He they they wanna maybe maybe, you know, his skills are a bit declined as faras explosiveness, But again, the rich get richer.
00:59:19
That's home.
00:59:21
What, you think, um, left Bell like you said in Pittsburgh.
00:59:26
He was incredible.
00:59:27
I love that running stock.
00:59:28
He does this small feet and boom darts.
00:59:30
Incredibly patient Runner.
00:59:32
One thing about the chiefs, um, and I got, like, their own TV every week, so I watched them.
00:59:37
Their incredible to me.
00:59:38
They remind me of Golden State and their little peek when they're just they're playing a different sport than everyone else.
00:59:43
Their play calling the explosiveness.
00:59:46
Patty Mahomes is just incredible.
00:59:48
One thing I don't like about the Chiefs, though.
00:59:50
They get real soft on the goal line.
00:59:53
You got that? That they're running back? I forgot his name from L s U The young cap, The rookie.
00:59:58
He's small.
00:59:59
He doesn't really get a major push up the gut and the fourth downs and, um, left bells, a touchdown machine.
01:00:08
Um, even if they just use him on the goal line, you're talking, he's gonna get 12 touchdown for the way they score late.
01:00:15
Late December, when the Patriots or someone comes in the arrowhead and, you know, ballistics gonna find he'll figure out one thing that you do well and stop it.
01:00:25
So how you gonna just to that.
01:00:26
And now you got left Bell getting touchdowns in the red zone on the goal line instead of field goals or trick plays and ****.
01:00:34
Um, yeah, Like PCI said the rich get richer.
01:00:37
Um, death is important with cove, it and all this stuff.
01:00:42
I don't see anyone beating them.
01:00:44
Whoever beats them is gonna take a miracle day.
01:00:46
Baltimore has a chance, but I don't know if they still early it is.
01:00:52
It's gonna take a miracle day and certain teams like that.
01:00:55
And I mean, that's the one thing about football, the best team, all you need to be the best team that day.
01:01:01
This ain't no Siri's.
01:01:02
You say no.
01:01:04
You know, basketball, the best team wins because you got to beat them four times.
01:01:08
Unless you're the Golden State against Cleveland Cavaliers.
01:01:12
Eso.
01:01:13
But you know, Kansas City corn.
01:01:16
We know your football guy, man.
01:01:18
This is This is your thing, man.
01:01:20
What did you think about love? Ian Bell signing with the chiefs? Uh um, overall, it's I mean, it's a no brainer.
01:01:30
I mean, any 30.
01:01:31
Honestly, I'm surprised they weren't like 15 other teams that weren't going out to sign him.
01:01:38
I mean it.
01:01:39
Waas Okay. Yeah.
01:01:42
So Okay, so this knowing that now that I mean then then that's what I'm saying.
01:01:46
Like, Look, lady on Bell.
01:01:49
I don't really think he's afforded any of this from where he started toe where he's where he is, where he came now, all right with the Chiefs.
01:01:58
And I think it was e there was no brainer.
01:02:02
There's no brain to pick him up.
01:02:03
He's still productive.
01:02:05
Honestly, I think he's still more than like from the statistics wise.
01:02:09
No, he's not the best in the league, but e I still think that he's one of the best.
01:02:15
And that's maybe from a personal standpoint, Um, because he's still I mean, he's still healthy.
01:02:22
It still helped either.
01:02:23
Look, now you said Pittsburgh didn't want to give him his money, so he played it smart.
01:02:29
I'm not gonna go out there. I'm not gonna play.
01:02:31
I'm not gonna do all that stuff.
01:02:32
Bust my ass and I'm not gonna get paid.
01:02:34
I'm the top three running back in the league.
01:02:36
I'm not gonna do that.
01:02:38
Okay. Cool.
01:02:39
Sit out a year.
01:02:41
Jets signed him.
01:02:42
He gets he gets the bank, he gets broke off.
01:02:45
You have to.
01:02:46
In that situation, you are running back.
01:02:48
You know, the years on the running back.
01:02:50
You may have two years.
01:02:52
Three at the most.
01:02:53
Okay, if if you're that great.
01:02:55
You know, you're a premier back.
01:02:58
You got to get your money.
01:02:59
You gotta get your money.
01:03:00
You got to get it down.
01:03:01
So he did his thing from that.
01:03:03
Now, now.
01:03:04
Now, with the Jets, he didn't do ****.
01:03:06
Didn't do anything with the Jets.
01:03:07
They were horrible team, you know? Hey, just didn't Just didn't do anything terrible.
01:03:13
Terrible, terrible.
01:03:14
You wanna be there? You didn't wanna be there.
01:03:16
Nobody wanna be there.
01:03:18
Nobody wants to be there.
01:03:19
So it's initially they were the only team that was gonna break the bank for him to get that money, so he had to get his money.
01:03:24
Okay, Now he played it smart.
01:03:26
He's like, Yo, they they're not going anywhere. This bums.
01:03:30
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get a c l tear for a team that's not going anywhere.
01:03:34
So we chose not toe not to give it 110% as most players would.
01:03:41
But he's in that position away. Doesn't have to.
01:03:43
You gotta think about your career.
01:03:45
So then Okay, They let him go, Whatever.
01:03:47
And then now the Chiefs pick him up on a one year deal.
01:03:50
I think it's great.
01:03:51
They they don't have to pay them to Mak.
01:03:52
They pay him the league minimum or whatever.
01:03:55
He's still getting paid from the Jets.
01:03:57
It's a win win.
01:03:58
Yeah, and I think he's gonna go in here.
01:04:00
I think he's really gonna show out.
01:04:02
I really do.
01:04:03
I really think he's gonna show up for the Chiefs and then maybe they signed him next year.
01:04:06
Or don't you know this is something to where he can he can.
01:04:10
He can audition for other teams.
01:04:11
That's about to say that That's the big toe him.
01:04:14
This is like his demo tape, so he needs to get signed to a major record label next year.
01:04:19
He go out there this year, scored 10 touchdowns.
01:04:22
I mean, can you imagine a set? So Kwan, now being to me, could put him on the outside, line them right out the gut, and even go right to the slot? This just gonna be fun that I didn't even think about you? Have you have Eric the enemy? You know, you have one of the best running back that played the game, you know? I mean, how he played in Colorado, as you know, college.
01:04:42
And then he played for the Eagles.
01:04:44
So, like, he, I mean, he was a really, really good back, you know? I mean, not as great as he was in college, but he came in and he did this thing when he played in the NFL.
01:04:51
So you have that now.
01:04:53
Now, you you're able to have a back that, you know, that 23 years ago was arguably the best back in the league.
01:05:00
That still has miles.
01:05:01
Miles up still has gas in the tank. So I mean, 28.
01:05:05
That's what I'm saying. Only 28.
01:05:06
And he still has.
01:05:07
He still has tread on it on his leg, so he's gonna be okay. He's gonna be all right.
01:05:12
Yeah.
01:05:13
I mean, listen, I I think what the beauty and this signing Is this what you touched on Levian man? They could split him out into the slot.
01:05:23
He's that type of back that, you know, He's excellent out out of the backfield, catching out of the backfield.
01:05:28
So the amount of things you could do with this type of guy.
01:05:31
Um, you already have a young bell horse in the young and the young kid from L s U.
01:05:37
But you don't wanna wear him down.
01:05:39
So that's why this was a good signing.
01:05:40
A swell it z It could get ugly in K.
01:05:47
C.
01:05:48
Um, and I also say this, you know what? As faras demos and all of that.
01:05:51
Listen, Levian is not eating ramen noodles every night.
01:05:56
In the two years he was in with the Jets, he got $28 million.
01:06:00
Eso he's okay with that And that ad from that aspect of it, Um, and he didn't get along with him.
01:06:09
And Adam Gates didn't get along from the jump.
01:06:11
So this was this was gonna happen.
01:06:14
Either one of them was gonna have to go.
01:06:15
I'm surprised he was engaged.
01:06:17
I think he's I think he's next.
01:06:19
But you know, Gates never.
01:06:21
He never accepted Levy on from the jump they didn't want.
01:06:26
It was they had a trade deadline with Levy on.
01:06:30
They had to get rid of him first, tried to get rid of him first, Then they cut.
01:06:36
It's funny that you mention that Because he actually came out on the interview before.
01:06:41
Actually, when he got signed with the Jets and he actually was saying that Adam gays understood him as, ah player.
01:06:47
And that's what that was.
01:06:49
One of the reasons why he went to the Jets and what I'm like, Yeah, it wasn't the money.
01:06:55
So hey, took the money.
01:06:58
But him and Adam Gates never They never click Gates.
01:07:01
Never.
01:07:02
He never really wanted Let me on from the jump.
01:07:04
And, um, it ended up working out that that way.
01:07:08
But Levian landed on his feet clearly, and he's in a good situation so quickly.
01:07:15
Let's move on to the surprising news yesterday, man.
01:07:18
Um, you know, a B A B signed with the Bucks yesterday.
01:07:23
Um, he had been in the news the last couple of days, but it all signs was pointing towards him.
01:07:29
Headed towards Seattle.
01:07:31
But Tampa time and those boys made a call.
01:07:34
Got him down to Florida.
01:07:36
Now he signed man, what do you guys think about this? Pick up quickly.
01:07:39
Go ahead, Brandon.
01:07:41
Uh, trying to form a Madden Ultimate team down there in Tampa Bay, they got all the Hall of fame cards in their deck like I don't the one thing I worry about with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we've seen this numerous times throughout history.
01:07:59
Well, my my time watching NFL, the teams that go out and just start signing a bunch of names, usually at the teams that went at the end of the season.
01:08:08
Um, for some reason, you know, one reason or another, those teams just they either don't mesh, you know, suck.
01:08:16
It's a lot of moving parts.
01:08:17
There's a lot of moving parts, and they didn't have an offseason together.
01:08:20
I mean, you got Tom Brady there, but I mean, yeah, Tom Brady is 40.
01:08:24
Okay, you got Gronkowski there. But he's 40.
01:08:26
Yeah, you got a B.
01:08:27
But he ain't played in three years.
01:08:29
So, like, it'll be interesting to see that they're gonna be tough, But I don't I don't know.
01:08:36
Tampa Bay for me.
01:08:37
They're signing too many names.
01:08:40
I don't feel like they're building a team of cohesive moving parts.
01:08:45
I feel like they're just They're just throwing a roster together right now.
01:08:49
What do you think? I agree with PCI.
01:08:53
Um I'm sorry.
01:08:54
Otr Brandon, Can I call you peach on this, but I don't know, 40 year.
01:08:57
I agree.
01:09:00
It's just gonna be fun to watch.
01:09:01
I think Tampa is actually not that bad a team.
01:09:05
The NFC is pretty weak.
01:09:06
NFC South is It's putrid.
01:09:09
I hate it.
01:09:10
I hate the saints.
01:09:11
Um, Carolina is terrible of San Francisco.
01:09:15
Seattle? I don't know, man.
01:09:19
I e Seattle.
01:09:21
Yeah, I don't trust them.
01:09:23
Don't you got? Then they got the M v.
01:09:24
P right now. Hey, hey.
01:09:26
Watching Watching Laker reruns.
01:09:28
E don't trust Seattle, but they're okay. Team.
01:09:33
Um I don't know what the odds are right now. Michael.
01:09:37
On the bucks to the Super Bowl Put put a stack down for me because I like the I like their path.
01:09:44
I agree.
01:09:45
Repeat, You know, they're not like this isn't like a cohesive team, but sometimes you just gotta out talent cats, like we just got a pound.
01:09:53
You with better players like a B is a number one.
01:09:57
He's a straight up number one.
01:09:59
Gronk is 40 years old and he's still the best tight and I've ever seen uh what's the cat? The dude who signed the cash money? Mike Evans.
01:10:09
He's a legit receiver.
01:10:11
The old line is wack.
01:10:12
I've never seen the defense.
01:10:14
We love Bruce Arians.
01:10:15
Why not exist Tampa Bay? Like Why not? Like, Why not try to sign and make a splash in a short cove? It type crazy year.
01:10:24
Go on.
01:10:25
What do you think, man? When you think about a be signing with temper.
01:10:28
So my things that I think look well, I believe in third chances, I believe. 2nd, 3rd chances.
01:10:36
All right, He was nutty.
01:10:39
This wild ****.
01:10:40
Okay? It really did clearly.
01:10:45
So obviously they feel that he can come back and he could produce.
01:10:48
He can come back to the lead.
01:10:49
He could play.
01:10:50
He can.
01:10:51
He can add some value now, from the football perspective of it.
01:10:56
I like Erin's.
01:10:57
I've always been a Bruce Arians fan, all right, I think that I think the guys from coaching where he's been, Oh, Asparagus coaching life.
01:11:06
E don't know if you guys have ever seen the special on on on NFL football life.
01:11:13
Bruce Arians.
01:11:14
Amazing watching. Amazing.
01:11:17
So and he already understands that.
01:11:20
Look, Tom Brady has maybe one year, two years before he gets broke, and then he's gonna be done, so we gotta win now, all right? It's a sense of urgency.
01:11:29
We gotta win now.
01:11:31
They signed up for two years.
01:11:33
I mean, if you're gonna do it, you might as well go ahead and pull the trigger.
01:11:38
I mean, look, Tampa Bay, they own arrives right now and honestly Oh, that they look really good.
01:11:44
They look really good.
01:11:45
I hate to say it because I was I was like, Nah, I just can't see it.
01:11:50
I was like, Tom coming back, But, I mean, they're looking good there, running the ball. They're passing.
01:11:55
They're playing really good defense.
01:11:57
And I mean, just you have Mike Evans on the other side.
01:12:01
He's already a monster.
01:12:03
And then you just put Antonio Brown the mix.
01:12:06
That's gonna be hard.
01:12:07
That's gonna be hard to stop.
01:12:09
And he's still been working out.
01:12:10
So it wasn't like he was just sitting around, you know, and his in his mansion.
01:12:15
Just chilling.
01:12:16
He was he was working on and making really cool rap songs, too.
01:12:19
Yeah, that's true.
01:12:20
And also dying his hair, all different type of colors. Okay.
01:12:23
Mr. Okay, Mr. Big Chest. E.
01:12:26
Hope you got some counseling.
01:12:28
E hope so, too.
01:12:31
Also to but from a football from a football standpoint.
01:12:35
I mean, they beat me. They're dangerous.
01:12:38
Dangerous? I think so.
01:12:39
And and in a week, NFC, The NFC is weak.
01:12:44
Who they like to go play against the NFC East winner.
01:12:47
Like, really? Like, Does that scare them? They have a home game against the Eagles in December.
01:12:53
I don't think anything I don't I don't I don't think any team in any season is scaring anybody right now, and, uh, NFL and they whipped up.
01:13:00
They whip the Green Bay already.
01:13:02
I'm honestly, all the path to them is pretty good.
01:13:08
Yeah.
01:13:09
Listen, why not? I agree with you.
01:13:11
Why not make the sign? And, you know, my only concern is he could be somewhat of a locker room cancer, as they say.
01:13:18
Um, but I think I think Bruce, I think the coaching staff is strong enough to kind of keep that at bay.
01:13:25
I think Tom Brady is, you know, he could kind of keep that is e think Tom Brady can kind of be his handler.
01:13:31
Is Jack Haley e check and I got four rings off of handling Dennis Rodman.
01:13:38
Well, I'm glad you I'm glad you brought that up my real quick, because this is his second take now with Tom Brady.
01:13:45
It didn't work the first time.
01:13:47
The first tape, He didn't get a fair shot.
01:13:49
NFL was on his ass.
01:13:50
It was not a fair shot.
01:13:52
And I was standing close on his ass.
01:13:53
Now, maybe a little bit less.
01:13:55
But, I mean, that is not as much.
01:13:56
Now, e, hey, played.
01:13:59
He played two games with them patched and they hear, like, three touchdown.
01:14:03
They probably would have won the championship last year.
01:14:05
E, I think it would have worked into in New England, you know, but like like who said the NFL was coming after him and and then it got to a point.
01:14:15
You know, New England.
01:14:17
They don't shy away from taking players like that, but it got to a point where even their hands, their hands were tied and they had to let him go.
01:14:25
And I don't think they wanted to, but I think they had.
01:14:28
They had to let him go.
01:14:29
So, um, we'll see how it goes.
01:14:32
But I think I'm with you.
01:14:34
I say whatever.
01:14:35
Why not? Let's try Let's see what's going on.
01:14:38
So listen, then we went a little longer than I thought we would on some of these topics, but I had a surprise segment for you guys and then you'll coming in it.
01:14:46
Only it only worked out perfectly for this situation.
01:14:49
So let's go to the surprise segment.
01:14:52
We're going, Let's it's gonna be quick.
01:14:54
Then we'll go to the OTR, pick him and then we'll be done.
01:14:58
So last week we didn't get the jump on and do OTR Sports the normal show.
01:15:03
We did a bonus episode without due to talk about the Lakers championship, and unfortunately, we missed it because Brandon and Kwan and though you know they all like the same teams.
01:15:14
So Brandon likes the Giants, Brandon and Cornyn w like the Washington football club team Redskins, whatever we're gonna call them.
01:15:24
So before we knew that was coming on the day I created this segment, so I wanted to let you guys I wanted I wanted to rehash that because that's part of the reason why we started this show because of the banter that goes on between Corn and Brandon when their teams play.
01:15:46
So Kwan forgive me for this man.
01:15:49
For this for this picture here.
01:15:51
But the Giants did win.
01:15:54
The Giants did win.
01:15:55
And it was as you could see by the score, it was a close game.
01:15:59
Um, it was, you know, all the counts.
01:16:02
It was kind of a **** show, ugly game.
01:16:04
But, hey, a win is a win.
01:16:08
You know, when there's a when a win is a win is a win, When does it win is a win.
01:16:13
So, listen, this is the segment I wanted to go into.
01:16:16
I wanted to do Kwan verse.
01:16:19
Brandon, I wanted to give you guys a chance to duke it out.
01:16:24
Like you didn't get to Duke it out last week.
01:16:26
But that you being here, him being a washing football club is two against one Brandon.
01:16:30
So I don't know if you can handle this two against.
01:16:33
Okay, alright.
01:16:35
Two against one, So I don't know if you up Thio e Don't know if you up to this task, man, But listen, Brandon, your team won.
01:16:47
So you go first, man, talk your **** for a couple of minutes.
01:16:51
E talk ****, talking **** for a couple of minutes.
01:16:55
E, I'll put the banner back up.
01:17:00
The Giants won.
01:17:02
Talk your ****.
01:17:04
They beat corner in dollars team talking ****, man.
01:17:09
Okay, here we go.
01:17:10
Here we go.
01:17:11
What's that? What's that now? Three in a row.
01:17:13
Three of three in a row.
01:17:14
Kwan No sake. One.
01:17:16
No.
01:17:17
Say Kwan either.
01:17:18
By the way, no se corn either.
01:17:20
Um ****.
01:17:23
That's all I got to say.
01:17:24
Really? I mean, what more I got to say they haven't beaten us.
01:17:28
And how Maney, What now? Two years.
01:17:31
Three years? E.
01:17:33
At least it was close this time last year. Not so much.
01:17:38
You're lucky. Steak Juan wasn't plan.
01:17:40
Probably would've been another 200 yard rusher.
01:17:42
Look, Kwan Fai Shell e? Yeah.
01:17:47
I mean, okay, way ****.
01:17:51
Yeah.
01:17:52
I mean, yeah, you guys one good luck.
01:17:54
Like I mean, great, great job.
01:17:56
But that's not really saying much, because when it comes to other teams, you guys don't do **** E.
01:18:03
Yeah, we do some this year.
01:18:04
I mean I mean, there's nothing more I can really say, but you guys suck as well, too.
01:18:07
So it's not like you guys are doing anything.
01:18:10
You're not going anywhere.
01:18:11
We've told you this *****.
01:18:13
Yeah.
01:18:14
You know what I'm saying? Way to go.
01:18:16
We can go to And 14 2 wins against y'all.
01:18:21
I'm alright.
01:18:22
You know what it is? Um You know, I like I said, Yeah, I think Washington football team is terrible.
01:18:31
We have been literally since fifth grade.
01:18:35
Um, so I think the Giants are a good team either, but they actually play tough, though, and they got some I players like they're not the worst team in the league.
01:18:46
That would be like Jacksonville type.
01:18:47
They're not the worst team, but, um, we don't have e.
01:18:53
And that's the thing.
01:18:54
I actually, I think, say, Kwan is actually in the market.
01:18:57
I trained him.
01:18:58
If I if I was a Giants fan and owner and I would actually training because a He has immense value.
01:19:05
Still, people actually think he's good.
01:19:07
I think physically, he's one of those guys that it's so **** muscular that he just every hit he absorbs and he just takes it.
01:19:16
And I don't know if his body is really gonna ever take the pounding.
01:19:20
He reminds me of a hurt for Walker.
01:19:22
No, but I mean the mind of a Herschel Walker.
01:19:25
where Herschel Walker was.
01:19:26
I mean, ****, Herschel Walker at 60 at the Trump Rally, like he could still give you 1300 yards.
01:19:32
Hey, he's that physically imposing, you know? And remember Jim, Remember Jimmy Jimmy Jones? I'm sorry.
01:19:40
Jimmy Johnson coming in saying that.
01:19:43
I'm sorry.
01:19:44
One of Jimmy John's sub.
01:19:45
Sorry, I remember Jimmie Johnson coming in saying, You know, look at Herschel.
01:19:49
He just doesn't He doesn't look like he's loves it or he doesn't like.
01:19:53
He's like a football player and he has value and let's trade him.
01:19:57
And we saw what happened with that to me.
01:19:59
Say, Kwan's on the market.
01:20:01
He's on the market that you heard it here first.
01:20:03
Yeah, a player.
01:20:05
You know, You see the thing about it.
01:20:07
What with Brandon is he thinks that if you have, say, corn Barkley, then you could go to the Super Bowl.
01:20:12
And that's just not the case like.
01:20:14
And we saw this and we told him this.
01:20:16
Why wouldn't I think? Why would I think, say, Kwan, increasing your chances of winning because he's a running back and I mean you need a little bit more than a running back just to get to the Super Bowl or to get to the playoffs.
01:20:27
You know, like he's just one man like, you know, like he like He's a really good running back and he's really, really talented. He's really great.
01:20:36
Eso you don't say the same **** about E.
01:20:39
I mean, that's what you were way got chased Young, you know? All right.
01:20:41
You know, Chase, Um, there's a bunch of the generation like you.
01:20:44
Just a Kwan is a very nice player.
01:20:47
He has your question here is who is more dysfunctional, the football team or or the Knicks? No way.
01:20:57
Next, like that were way more dysfunctional.
01:20:59
E Knicks fan and this.
01:21:02
And to be honest with you, I got I got the football team being more dysfunctional than we are, but they have a The only thing that's on Lee that, as as dysfunctional is us, is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, not too far from the Washington A.
01:21:16
There are literally their two most dysfunctional organizations in the entire world.
01:21:23
6.
01:21:24
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington.
01:21:26
Redskins Z ultimately, like Zack corns gonna wanna leave because you don't have **** there.
01:21:37
Like I'm like you don't have a line.
01:21:41
Like what they want worried about right now is getting back on the field.
01:21:46
E I don't want the Giants.
01:21:48
Yeah, we got ta.
01:21:50
What's to play for the Giants? Yeah, he looked like a team.
01:21:53
Why? Why Why? Why are we debating Mike? Why did you do this way? 10 combined.
01:22:04
Why are we doing this? Hey, listen, man.
01:22:07
And also you also gotta remember you.
01:22:09
You guys have recently just started winning.
01:22:11
When we had RG three, we was crushing y'all, okay? And you couldn't stand it.
01:22:15
So now that you guys are winning you just by one point, you know what? You know what? Hurt really lost against the Giant.
01:22:25
Remember that year the Washington was 79 It was seven and eight, and we need a one win to get to the playoffs.
01:22:31
And the Giants didn't play half the team, and they still they still get like, e hate the football team.
01:22:40
Yeah, they're so bad.
01:22:43
Way often.
01:22:45
Do remember some wins because me and Brandon actually went to a game one time, and we actually one and the bantering literally, all from just to let you guys know it was it was the nosebleed section They were free.
01:22:55
They were free tickets Way.
01:22:57
It's alright.
01:22:58
Ah man gave me some free tickets from the job.
01:23:00
We went to the game.
01:23:02
We just We destroyed the Giants and PCI had to sit there amongst all the washer Tony and fans and get crushed.
01:23:08
And we walked back.
01:23:10
It was good.
01:23:11
I loved it. I enjoyed it.
01:23:13
And just just just seeing that and seeing seeing his face like like it is now.
01:23:17
It was a It was a good day.
01:23:20
Kwan that was so long ago.
01:23:25
You guys haven't even contended for championships since we were in elementary school.
01:23:31
So Yeah, it's great.
01:23:33
Great. Okay.
01:23:35
Okay.
01:23:36
So listen.
01:23:37
Listen, Brandon, your team won, so I'm giving you 10 seconds.
01:23:43
Your faith? Your Here you go.
01:23:45
Facing first front and center.
01:23:49
Do what you do, man.
01:23:50
10 seconds.
01:23:51
Your team won.
01:23:53
Mike is giving me 10 seconds.
01:23:55
Uh, and we just lost e.
01:23:59
I'm saying your team beat the other to host team.
01:24:04
Your team beat the Washington football squad team. Whatever.
01:24:08
We're calling them 10 seconds to talk your **** without the two of them saying anything.
01:24:16
Yeah, in a couple weeks way.
01:24:20
Get our second win of the season.
01:24:21
E try and listen. I tried to get it.
01:24:31
I tried to get e tried to get a brother his hands.
01:24:34
You gotta catch me on a win.
01:24:36
Like like, Hey, the Giants won on Sunday way.
01:24:44
Lost on Thursday.
01:24:45
Way up 21 10 in the fourth quarter. Cheese.
01:24:50
All right, well, listen, man, that that was give you what you wanted that that was the brand inverse corn segment because we didn't get, get, get another 10 seconds in a in a few weeks Way didn't get to record the show.
01:25:08
Who's gonna be your quarterback, then? Is it still gonna be Kyle Allen? Or you're gonna have about three quarterbacks way like Kyle Allen your way? Like I was, like, 50 yards you're now granted, He made a bonehead ass play six minutes left to go in the fourth quarter.
01:25:25
I'm sorry, e.
01:25:28
I was the one that gets the 10 seconds you don't get.
01:25:30
The 10 CEO made my two seconds.
01:25:33
How about that? How about that? And I make my 10 seconds can ideo So see, this is what the Converse Brandon segment was supposed to delight.
01:25:41
What? Just happened right there, but y'all bullcrap! But we're moving on.
01:25:47
We're moving on.
01:25:48
We're moving on to the world famous OTR pick him.
01:25:51
E told my God that would make his pick.
01:25:54
So he's going to join us this week. 1st.
01:25:56
1st, let's let's do a little recap.
01:26:00
Okay? ****.
01:26:02
Look who won the week.
01:26:05
Pretty close, though.
01:26:06
It's pretty close.
01:26:07
Everyone still in it, Michael, in the week coming in at 10 and four.
01:26:10
Quality.
01:26:11
Brandon, I'm really looking like the Redskins washed toward the Washington football team.
01:26:17
Record five, followed by Brandon at 95 within.
01:26:20
Corn came in at 577.
01:26:23
How do you go? Seven and seven.
01:26:25
You missed some games.
01:26:26
Oh, it was wasn't shortly.
01:26:29
It's 14.
01:26:30
Yeah, it was 14 games.
01:26:32
Yeah, Yeah, right.
01:26:34
Weak And Covic and all that.
01:26:36
I'm going to come back up, though.
01:26:38
So? So Listen, man.
01:26:40
Kwan corner had been in the lead the overall lead throughout this whole thing, but not anymore.
01:26:46
Oh, that I've been on his ass.
01:26:50
Oh, I'm gonna get back, though.
01:26:53
I'm gonna get that back though.
01:26:54
Mike is taking over the lead 47 27 and kwon has fell back.
01:27:01
He's two games behind now, and now Brandon is on his ass.
01:27:05
So we'll see how it goes, man.
01:27:08
But listen, we took a long time when some of these other topics and that's good, man, it was flowing.
01:27:12
But let's be quick on this ****.
01:27:14
Okay, so we're gonna pick the winner.
01:27:17
You could say it's pork.
01:27:19
Uh, and then that's it.
01:27:21
All right, so we're gonna start with.
01:27:24
Let's see.
01:27:25
Let's see.
01:27:26
We're gonna start me, Pull up the schedule real quick.
01:27:29
E thought I had it up already, but I didn't want I wrote it down.
01:27:34
The woman just call out the games.
01:27:36
No, I got you.
01:27:37
I got you cause I want you to focus on picking Dog E S O.
01:27:42
We had Thursday night game that that we already talked about, uh, that Brady just mentioned the Giants lose by one point to Philly.
01:27:49
I think Juan was the only one. The truth.
01:27:51
Philly.
01:27:52
So corn is starting the week off.
01:27:54
Great, but capital, we'll start with Joe.
01:27:59
We'll start with Detroit traveling to Atlanta 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:28:04
Who you got? Battle? I got.
01:28:07
I got Atlanta winning.
01:28:09
What's the score? Are we Okay, so we are doing to score.
01:28:12
Yeah, This is this the pick The winner in the score in that ****.
01:28:16
E got Falcon 17.
01:28:23
17.
01:28:24
What? I'll be said. Oh, they'll be.
01:28:27
Just pick the pick. The winner.
01:28:28
Okay. Yeah. 17 lines. 10.
01:28:30
Okay.
01:28:31
Who you got? You gotta be Detroit 31 28.
01:28:38
Detroit 31 28.
01:28:39
Who you got? I got the Atlanta 28 24.
01:28:43
I like Raheem Morris in any coach named Rahim is okay with me, e.
01:28:50
I went, I went with Atlanta, man, I got Atlanta.
01:28:52
Atlanta 27 24.
01:28:54
They look good last week, man.
01:28:55
Maybe right, He ain't got him going.
01:28:57
So let's see.
01:28:58
Let's see how it goes in the next game.
01:29:00
We got Cleveland traveling to Cincinnati at 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:29:04
Who you got going? I'm gonna go with the Browns on this.
01:29:09
The Browns 17 Bangles 10.
01:29:11
I like Joey, but I'm gonna go with go with wack ass baker on this one.
01:29:15
Who you gotta be? I got Cleveland 25 19 25 19.
01:29:24
Who you got? I got You know what? Let's Let's make a splash. Urge.
01:29:28
Always been doing pretty good.
01:29:29
Let's go.
01:29:30
Cincy 38 28. Wow.
01:29:32
Okay.
01:29:33
Okay.
01:29:34
Okay.
01:29:35
Um, I went with Cleveland.
01:29:36
I got Cleveland 24 21.
01:29:38
I think Baker will pull it out.
01:29:40
But Joey, Joey won't make it competitive.
01:29:42
Well, I'll say that.
01:29:43
We'll say that, Uh, the next game, man, this is This should probably be the game of the week.
01:29:49
We got the Steelers traveling to Tennessee to face the titans of 1 p.m.
01:29:54
Kickoff. Who? You got? One.
01:29:57
You know how I feel about them? Kenneth? T board them.
01:29:59
Them? Them them from Tennessee, a k a.
01:30:02
Kentucky boys.
01:30:03
So I'm gonna go with, uh, I'm gonna go with them. Go with Tennessee boys.
01:30:06
17 Steelers 14.
01:30:09
Okay, who you gotta be e got Tennessee 27 24.
01:30:17
What about you? I got the I got.
01:30:20
Tennessee is also 31 17.
01:30:22
Not a big, big Ben fan, and Pittsburgh's finally playing on the road, So Good point. Good point.
01:30:29
You got them kind of getting blown out.
01:30:30
But that's a good point, man.
01:30:31
This seems like Pittsburgh home.
01:30:33
They've been whole year.
01:30:35
Yeah, I'm picking Tennessee because I need them to beat Pittsburgh before they come into Baltimore next week.
01:30:43
So I got to the sea winning 33 to 30.
01:30:46
Uh, next game, we got Buffalo traveling to New York.
01:30:51
Well, well, short travel Thio face the jets of 1 p.m.
01:30:59
Kickoff. Man.
01:31:00
Who y'all got? Who you got going? Quick Game bills 21 Jets seven.
01:31:05
Okay, Who you Who you gotta be, Uh, Buffalo 37 6.
01:31:13
I don't think the Jets were gonna win another game.
01:31:16
Who you got? That's the plan, right? I got got Buffalo 24 13.
01:31:23
Okay, well, I got Buffalo 44 to 6.
01:31:25
And yes, I really think that's gonna happen.
01:31:28
Yea.
01:31:31
My buffalo coming over getting their ass with last week? Well, no, they did they? Yeah, they lost the chief.
01:31:39
So that was too, because that two games in a row, they lost.
01:31:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:31:52
They lost to him. They lost two in a row.
01:31:54
I think they're gonna take it out.
01:31:55
They're gonna take it out on the Jets, so it'll be a blow out the next game.
01:32:00
Man, we have the, uh Oh.
01:32:05
I skipped the game.
01:32:06
Sorry, we have the Panthers.
01:32:08
Carolina Panthers traveling to New Orleans to face the Saints 1 p.m.
01:32:12
Kickoff.
01:32:13
Who? You got? Corn? Uh, just like just like my brother.
01:32:16
Who said I don't I don't trust the Panthers.
01:32:18
The defense plays well, but I'm gonna go with Saints.
01:32:20
21 Panthers 10.
01:32:24
Who you gotta be? Carolina 24 23 e saw that Michael Thomas just punched another player and then Emmanuel Sanders has covitz, so I'm gonna go Carolina 21 17 at the dome.
01:32:45
Did he punched? He punched another player.
01:32:46
E, I think.
01:32:49
Well, I think he's hurt.
01:32:50
They They're saying he's e someone broke his hand. He's a punk.
01:32:56
He's not playing.
01:32:57
He's out this week.
01:32:58
They said Okay, okay.
01:33:00
Him in a man.
01:33:01
You're saying this out.
01:33:02
So but I'm still go in New Orleans.
01:33:04
I'm gonna go to New Orleans 27 21.
01:33:06
Oh, you're a big Taysom Hill fan.
01:33:08
That got terrible.
01:33:09
Alright, the next game, man Kwan, I'm a start on the other side with this one.
01:33:19
Kwan, in that way have the Dallas Cowboys traveling to face the Washington Football Club team.
01:33:28
Please.
01:33:29
Whatever you wanna call it 1 p.m. Kickoff.
01:33:33
You've got behind you He's got Washington.
01:33:37
Come on, Kwan crazy.
01:33:40
Oh, man, I can't go.
01:33:42
I can't go against the grain dog.
01:33:44
Washington 17 Dallas 14.
01:33:48
Okay, A valid reason, Though I have a valid reason.
01:33:53
Very valid reasons.
01:33:55
You know what? That's it.
01:33:58
I have to go with my brother to be watching.
01:34:02
I got Washington within 28.
01:34:03
27 I think Dallas Mike McCarthy's terrible.
01:34:06
He's going to be at the best proficient shop locally before the game.
01:34:10
Um, I, you know, Washington hasn't been playing terribly were bad, but we haven't been playing terribly.
01:34:18
28 27.
01:34:19
A couple turnovers get to the 28 points.
01:34:23
I think I know where you're gonna go with this, Brandon.
01:34:26
But who you got? Dallas? Yeah.
01:34:34
Defense hasn't been playing well, and they're only gonna give up 13 points I got I went with Dallas, but I got Dallas in a close game 17. 16.
01:34:45
Again shout out to my boy, Eric Lawrence Tool.
01:34:49
He reminds me every week that I used to be a Dallas Cowboys fans.
01:34:54
E actually was going to say, I hope I hope Eric is actually watching this right now.
01:34:59
If he's not, he's not somebody will tell him e o much love e got the Cowboys winning 17.
01:35:09
16.
01:35:10
Um, next game, we have Green Bay coming off of the laws traveling to Houston 1 p.m.
01:35:19
Kickoff.
01:35:20
Who you got going? I had this game, too. Yes.
01:35:27
Yeah.
01:35:28
Packers 21 Texans 14.
01:35:33
Well, you got big Green Bay.
01:35:38
2034 24.
01:35:41
Mhm e got Green Bay and the greatest, most talented quarterback I've ever seen.
01:35:46
Aaron Rodgers, 24 17 over huge Houston.
01:35:50
Okay, okay.
01:35:51
I got Green Bay getting off the snide, but I got Houston making it tough.
01:35:56
I got Green Bay 28 25.
01:36:00
Next up, we got Tampa time and the boys traveling to Vegas, Man, listen, I wish I was going to Vegas right now, right? Further the Vegas vacation.
01:36:10
The first good.
01:36:12
Good B.
01:36:13
No, I was just saying I heard Vegas stay there.
01:36:17
They're pretty tight on that covert stuff s so you know, you could feel safe when you go.
01:36:22
Go ahead.
01:36:23
Uh, yeah.
01:36:25
Well, I want to go somewhere.
01:36:27
I ain't got walking around with a mask all the time, so I'm awake.
01:36:31
I'm awake for all of that.
01:36:32
But anyways, the first four o'clock kick off of the day.
01:36:37
Who? You got? Corn? Tampa of Vegas.
01:36:39
The Raiders.
01:36:43
Okay, I'm gonna start with you.
01:36:44
I'm gonna start with you, Okay? You know, across country, um, Vegas hasn't been playing bad.
01:36:53
They have not been playing bad.
01:36:55
That that that running back to God. Jacobs.
01:36:57
Solid running back.
01:36:58
Um, you know, I'm gonna go to Tampa Bay, though. 34.
01:37:02
21 in a really nice game.
01:37:04
34.
01:37:05
20. Ok, OK.
01:37:06
Kwan.
01:37:07
Who you got, man? Yeah, I'm gonna go the same route.
01:37:09
I'm gonna go with Tampa.
01:37:10
Um, I have Tampa 28 Raiders 14.
01:37:16
Okay.
01:37:17
Who you got? Brandon E.
01:37:18
Got I pick Vegas.
01:37:20
I pick Vegas 35.
01:37:21
23.
01:37:22
Man.
01:37:23
I saw the way Gruden came out and coach against Kansas City.
01:37:25
I think he's gonna come out, and he wants to prove something that they're better than this.
01:37:29
Tampa Bay team is well on.
01:37:31
They got They got some history there.
01:37:33
I think he's gonna our coach.
01:37:34
Bruce Arians.
01:37:36
I got I got Tampa in the close 1 28 27.
01:37:40
But I wanna I'm a jump.
01:37:41
I want to jump to a game I want to jump to.
01:37:44
Let's see, I want to skip a couple of games because I got my guy in here.
01:37:48
I got my guy, my guy King, who was 49.
01:37:52
Empire Pocket.
01:37:53
Check them out.
01:37:56
S so I want I want I want us to do the picking while he's in here, man, let's go to San Francisco traveling to New England.
01:38:06
Fortunately, I've Kickoff Kuala.
01:38:08
We're gonna start with you, man.
01:38:09
Who you got? Oh, man.
01:38:11
Man, Man, man, man.
01:38:13
Huh? Believe it or not, I'm gonna go with the Niners on this one.
01:38:18
My what? The miners on this one.
01:38:19
Okay, what's the score? 17 New England 14.
01:38:23
Okay.
01:38:24
Okay.
01:38:25
Who you got? Who you got? Um, Well, you know, San Francisco going cross country, they're pretty.
01:38:32
Have a really good defense.
01:38:33
Um, kind of average everywhere else. Jimmy. Jesus.
01:38:36
He's a He's a lame Bill Belichick.
01:38:39
Does he really lose three in a row or two in a row, ever? He's too good.
01:38:43
He knows already.
01:38:44
Weaknesses.
01:38:45
24 18.
01:38:46
New England 24 18 New England.
01:38:48
Okay, Who you got? Who you got be? Uh, I had New England for the very reason that You said that.
01:38:56
You know Belichick losing two games in a row.
01:38:59
I just can't remember the last time.
01:39:01
E remember that happening? Um, it's gonna be tough.
01:39:05
It's gonna be tough.
01:39:06
I'll say no, I'm just saying New England 23 20 before I go on a rabbit hole in England 23 20.
01:39:13
Clearly, clearly, Akeem disagrees with E.
01:39:19
You know, the only reason I picked New England is because two losses in the role of Belichick.
01:39:25
Yeah, it just doesn't.
01:39:27
It's nothing, even that San Francisco probably is a better team.
01:39:31
It's just I would have picked San Francisco otherwise.
01:39:35
So my myself went with New England.
01:39:38
Um, hold on.
01:39:41
This is this is for you.
01:39:43
Brand new in, uh, but I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with my guy.
01:39:54
Can I'm going My God can When I say New England wins 28 24 in a close battle out there, um, s a shout out to my guy came man, listen, check out.
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Check out the 49 Empire Man podcast.
01:40:10
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01:40:12
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01:40:14
So check them boys out there.
01:40:17
Uh, let me see.
01:40:18
So I skipped the we got, We got Jacksonville Chargers and we got Casey in Denver.
01:40:24
Okay, so let me let me let me go back to K C traveling to Denver for 25. Kickoff.
01:40:32
What you got going? Uh, yeah, the chief ****ing no brainer.
01:40:38
Uh, Drew Lock he I mean, it was Drew lock. He sucks.
01:40:42
He's wack.
01:40:43
I like Melvin Gordon, but Drew Lock sucks.
01:40:46
I'm going with the chief 21 Broncos 17.
01:40:49
Uh huh.
01:40:51
Um, Drew Lock can dance, though.
01:40:54
You see him? He was hitting the Dougie on their ass last week.
01:40:57
Um, yeah.
01:40:58
Like you said, I got Casey 41 17.
01:41:01
It's a high altitude game, and it's a rivalry game, but Kansas City is just rolling, man.
01:41:07
They just bombing threes on every Oh, you got me.
01:41:12
Uh, I got Kansas City.
01:41:14
I think it would be a little bit closer.
01:41:16
The division rivals pretty much the other teams in the division.
01:41:19
You are building your team to play you.
01:41:21
So I got Kansas City 27 20.
01:41:24
I could live with that. I could see that.
01:41:26
I think this is I think this is Let me on his first game s Oh, I got you know, Kansas City pulling out some stunts to get him involved, pulling out a couple players, got the enemy and an anti pulling out some, uh, pulling some players out of their ass that they don't really use.
01:41:42
Just just to show up that new toy a little bit.
01:41:44
So I got Kansas City 34 17.
01:41:47
Mhm.
01:41:48
Um, if we Yeah, we have Jacksonville traveling to Los Angeles to face the charges for 25 Kickoff.
01:41:56
Who you got going? I'm going with the charges.
01:42:01
21 Jack seven.
01:42:04
Uh, be honest.
01:42:07
I don't even know who's on either of these teams.
01:42:09
This'll is a perfect game that needs to be played on the Tuesday NFL should just have games throughout the week.
01:42:15
I guess the charges I like when Arnold introduced the San Diego Chargers.
01:42:21
So I'm gonna go with them.
01:42:22
31 24.
01:42:25
You got me? I got the charges.
01:42:34
34 17.
01:42:37
Yeah, I remember the charges. I got the charges.
01:42:39
26 21.
01:42:41
Um, yeah, the young boy looking.
01:42:43
All right, man, That that quarterback looking like Yeah, huh? He's He may be legit.
01:42:48
He may be legit.
01:42:50
Um, okay.
01:42:51
Next we got the eight o'clock game, we got Seattle traveling Arizona.
01:42:55
I think this would be a pretty good game eight when he kicked off.
01:42:58
Who? You got one.
01:43:00
Oh, I got Seattle.
01:43:01
I got I mean, the M v p Now that I said I like the hand, man.
01:43:06
He's doing some great things this season.
01:43:08
Um, but I mean, his hands down the Seahawks.
01:43:12
Russell Wilson is playing phenomenal football.
01:43:15
I got them.
01:43:16
24 Cardinal 17 Close game.
01:43:17
Close game 24. 17.
01:43:20
Okay, so you got Yeah, where the game is at Arizona? Yes.
01:43:29
You know what? You don't get rich being playing it safe.
01:43:32
Arizona 40 to 38.
01:43:35
Oh, okay.
01:43:38
Okay.
01:43:39
Who you got be? I got Seattle 35 34.
01:43:45
Sure.
01:43:46
Yeah, I got Seattle 28 24.
01:43:48
I do think it'll be a close game, but I got Seattle pulling it out at the end.
01:43:53
I'm so not sold in Seattle.
01:43:55
I'm sorry.
01:43:56
I just I ain't telling them.
01:43:58
You know what I think it is? I think I think you still I feel the same way that playoff game against us.
01:44:03
I still hate to Seattle E.
01:44:06
I still don't it still doesn't sit right with me.
01:44:09
E.
01:44:11
Can I ask you a serious question as football fans, Washington football fans? Why is it that you're still skeptical of every other team in the league? But wait, we've got Monte sweat.
01:44:26
What league in sacks? It's like but every other team.
01:44:30
You know, they suck.
01:44:31
They ****ing defeated.
01:44:33
Yeah, but they suck.
01:44:34
We'll change your generational family.
01:44:36
Okay, If Chase Young was on a real team, he would be like lt already.
01:44:41
It is that he has to play for a terrible franchise like ours.
01:44:45
He's generational talent.
01:44:48
E RG three was the best quarterback we've ever seen.
01:44:52
At one point, according to E will say, I will say going into each year, you guys look at the schedule and say, We're gonna win 12 games easy.
01:45:07
And by Week two, while we to y'all like way.
01:45:17
What's life without hope, though, right? Shouldn't we have hoped to like Is that not fair? Can we have a way? Deep down, we know deep down were terrible, Okay, but we're hoping, Yeah, but it's it's a little It's a little over the top with y'all sometimes way.
01:45:37
Got one more game, man.
01:45:38
We got the Monday night game.
01:45:39
We got the Chicago Bears traveling to Los Angeles to face the Rams.
01:45:43
Eight Kickoff.
01:45:45
Who? You got corn? I got the ramps. 21 14.
01:45:50
The Rams, They play good.
01:45:52
They're playing at home, and I mean, I like Nicki.
01:45:56
I like I like Nicki man, but, uh, I like that best defense too.
01:46:00
But ultimately, I ram, they're gonna take it out.
01:46:03
21 14 Rams.
01:46:06
Who you got? Um, you know what? Qantas? A really good pick.
01:46:09
Um, I hate Chicago.
01:46:11
There were there, actually.
01:46:14
They're terrible organization to traveling.
01:46:17
Cross country.
01:46:18
Give me the Rams.
01:46:19
Give me the Rams 18 to 13.
01:46:23
I'm not sold on Jared golf, but I think they could squeeze out.
01:46:26
I think Aaron Donald is a generational type of defensive tactics.
01:46:32
Okay, Who? You gotta be another generational talent on the other side.
01:46:38
Probably. Mac.
01:46:39
Yeah, I got Chicago winning this.
01:46:41
Give me a generational town has already been trained it.
01:46:44
That's generational shore.
01:46:45
Well, hey, hey, Don't run the front office.
01:46:48
He just makes the plays on the field.
01:46:50
Uh, e don't know how that sometimes I'm not really sure how Chicago is winning games, but I mean, outside of their defense, But they they make it happen.
01:47:02
They make it happen.
01:47:03
So I I just got him pulling this one out.
01:47:06
Gut feeling.
01:47:07
Uh, hey, I'm Bob one there, five, but they have a better record.
01:47:12
So before you and they're beating some good teams, so I don't know where you wanna go with this one.
01:47:16
What? Do you have a real line on this one? I You know that that's gonna be a hard game to win.
01:47:22
They're coming across the they're coming across.
01:47:24
It's gonna be hard.
01:47:26
They're going to l A E.
01:47:29
Uh, yeah, I know that.
01:47:32
But the Ramses 2 g, they're just too strong at home.
01:47:34
They have too much firepower.
01:47:37
Jalen Ramsey's I mean, he's by far the best corner in the league.
01:47:42
The defense plays stellar.
01:47:44
I mean, Aaron, Donald, like like that was just a generational talent by far.
01:47:49
That's gonna be hard for them to come over and make that turn over.
01:47:53
It's gonna be hard.
01:47:54
That's all right.
01:47:55
Oh, I might I might want to get on this one.
01:47:59
What they given that given the beds 5.
01:48:01
5 points.
01:48:03
Oh, e s This is a good game to you.
01:48:09
Could make a lot of money betting on this game because it's kind of close, but you can also kind of sway.
01:48:14
Either way, you gotta say the Rams.
01:48:17
So when they lose, I get a game on you.
01:48:19
Yeah.
01:48:20
So I was I was gonna say so.
01:48:21
These are the type picks, man.
01:48:22
When we doing my otr pick him that can put you ahead on the on the standards.
01:48:27
So yeah, I'm going to rams, though.
01:48:28
I'm going Rams 24 20.
01:48:30
But I like that pick.
01:48:31
Yeah, I do.
01:48:32
Like that pick is crazy.
01:48:33
I'm picking the Rams to win otr pick him.
01:48:35
But I might put some money on the Bears and that 5.
01:48:37
5 points 1000%? Yeah, like the last second field goal could easily winning.
01:48:42
You still get paid the big bucks that was stacked on it.
01:48:45
Yeah. Yeah.
01:48:46
So listen, man fellas, that that was That's the show.
01:48:49
The long ass show way.
01:48:52
I didn't expect Stan Van Gundy thio draw e didn't expect standing.
01:49:03
I need to draw such conversation, But it was a good conversation nevertheless.
01:49:08
So Listen, man, it's the time of the show where I give you guys a chance to drop some **** and closing, man.
01:49:16
So I'm gonna start with you calling anything you want saying quote and closing.
01:49:19
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01:49:22
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01:49:23
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01:49:25
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01:49:33
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01:49:34
I loved it. We got it. We got to keep doing this.
01:49:36
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01:49:38
And we just got to keep generating more more outcome for this man.
01:49:42
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01:49:44
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01:49:45
Be any remarks and closing, man.
01:49:47
I tried to give you 10 seconds earlier in the show to throw your shots, but didn't even any closing any parting shots or anything you got? Yeah, No parting shots.
01:49:58
Enjoy your weekend.
01:49:59
I will be.
01:50:00
I will be, uh, surpassing you this week.
01:50:03
Juan Mike, I'm on your ass.
01:50:05
Uh, and last but not least, man, I guess our special guest man, we're gonna We're gonna leave an open invitation for him any time he wants to join us on Saturday morning just to do the show.
01:50:18
But oh, man.
01:50:20
Any closing remarks? Yeah, First of all, four months.
01:50:23
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01:50:24
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01:50:27
So it's been a while.
01:50:28
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01:50:35
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