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um, so who knows? I just feel like the odd one out, Big dog.
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Can you like the other one out Wreck you to what? E didn't know.
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You gotta have 45 people here.
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There you go.
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I was laying in bed talking ****.
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What? Really? Hey, said that **** like that's new.
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He's like, Yeah, I was just ****ing **** laying in the bed.
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That's what they do.
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E o something position of the other team.
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I'm Chicago.
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I don't have to take the mean Exactly.
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You don't, right? I mean, I'm not sitting at home.
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I'm not sitting at home as the Chicago fans demon about Knox and Fortis.
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No, right.
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We're the ones that sitting here late at night discussing Levin, whoever the team with the best players, the team with the level.
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Right, So it's gonna hurt away.
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It's either gonna cost you, RJ, because they're losing their starting to guard.
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You're gonna They're gonna they're gonna get They're gonna wanna throw that whole.
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That's why I said you got to give up the eight.
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Keep your 27 and give up Randall to make the money.
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Work like that makes a little bit more sense in the sense that, like, you gotta give something up there loaded at the power forward spot, though you're gonna have to take market than two because you're gonna have to take market marketing from home.
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You're not taking but mark you.
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But there goes.
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That goes again.
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You're acting like we're taking marketing for them from them, and we're doing them a favor, E.
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That's what I'm saying. You gotta give up.
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E even mentioned the eighth pick like those air fix that.
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You've gotta give up to make this thing work or make it in Taison because they could easily sell themselves on a full rebuild based on a thick this year.
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Dallas pick next year.
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Porzingis is hurt.
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I get Randall, who's a 2010 guy and then also I get, you know, like Frank, who's, ah, good defensive player And another wing that could replace because, like, right now, Kobe White is gonna be the certain point guard who is gonna be a shooting guard.
00:02:24
Who's gonna be a three.
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Cannot be the Knicks gm.
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Can I be Can I be Leon Rose? Then a shoot try me actually trying.
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I come from the difference but trying.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So you come from Denver, right? Yeah.
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So this benefits the next.
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All right, So if you hang up this phone before you take this deal, you could stay your ass in the lottery.
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You already have Zach Lavine.
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And you already have those pieces that you're happy with.
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And that **** has gotten You're absolutely nowhere but in the worst position than the Knicks are in this lottery.
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You're right, Right.
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But but but the team still exists.
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You didn't create the team from scratch.
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This team is already in place.
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You took the job with this team in place already, and you want to improve it and I'll give you the pieces to improve it with, so I e give you 26 points support.
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Help me Help me improve it.
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Okay, well, you can keep your 26 point scorer and I'll go talk to Indiana in Detroit.
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Both of them are aggressively looking.
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Thio, move ahead of you in the Chicago Bulls D m.
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I could get Victor Oladipo right now, as opposed to me giving you something for Zach Lavine, right? E do a sign and trade for Christian would from Detroit.
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E even go.
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****! When you call, you start talking about all the other things you could do with other GM.
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You know that? The phone to listen to this.
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What's your what's your ass? What you calling me? What's your ass? So here, this So I want not only do I want exact Levina also wanted a quarter, Okay, right.
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So I want e interrupted.
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That just made it slightly enticing because that's 30 million off my book and my owners cheap.
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Right? So and so So listen.
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So here. So here's the thing.
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Here's the thing also may take Um um what's the name? I got my guy.
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What's the eight? That was the veteran powerful, which I got marketing.
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No, that is young.
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I may may they also look Thio take that is young from you.
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If you take this eight pit, there's 27 pick in the 38th pick.
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So does that give you right? So you like how does that benefit me? That takes, like 40 mil off the books and it also gives you the chance to get killing Hayes and Devin vessel.
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So is Kelly and Hayes and Devin Vessel and upgrade over of Zach Lavine now in the short term, but in the long term, it gives you the requisite pieces to be a playoff team.
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Now, you could start Kobe attitude you gave me the are you don't need Thio.
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Tell me I'm aware of what's on my team.
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OK? All right.
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I like that you are over.
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You are over.
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So we did pick up plastic.
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How you want? How you want me that you Are you in the paper bags or plastic? You You ready? Can I respond? Yeah, um I believe your overvalue might need to unload some of these salaries off my books.
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Sure.
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Me.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Is that how you did the I'm really enticed by you taking all the porter.
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Um, that's the story.
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But I'm gonna need more than I mean, at the end of the day, I am giving up exactly being whose a borderline all star.
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Not even in his prime yet.
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And his and he's on.
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He's under contract at a very, very, very reasonable price for the next two years.
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Almost like slave labor that you're getting from us.
00:06:17
Okay, So just to let you know I can I can offer that same deal to Sacramento and get Buddy Hill, right? E o.
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You have a good Sacramento.
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Nice talking to you.
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So Okay.
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All right, so So I guess what I'm assuming is that you're interested in and say in a r J or a 2021 big.
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Okay.
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All right.
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It's been nice talking to you, man.
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Hey, listen, after you get tired, you can come work for me.
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We'll see.
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Because because Because I'm a leak, I'm a leak.
00:06:59
This did I Maliki offer to the media, and it's gonna make you look like a clown, you know? Alright, E gotta go my own thing and somebody else has called me.
00:07:10
Oh, I'm just I'm gonna eat this toe.
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Berman toe.
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Let him know what? You're still I'm sorry.
00:07:23
E offered them, offered them three picks in this year's draft, offered to take dead money from them and then then almost conceded giving up some of my play option players for Zach Lavine.
00:07:39
So I'm giving them two options on three different fronts.
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And he said no, I need more for inefficient.
00:07:45
26 20 A is very efficient, right? Right.
00:07:56
How about in the win column.
00:07:57
How efficient way we're working on that.
00:08:02
We have a lot of his here for, You know, a coach that was worse than David Fizdale is tough for me. I'm sorry.
00:08:12
You're not gonna get that one for me. Crazy.
00:08:15
Yeah, well, but you know what? Don't I saved us from over paying for a loser.
00:08:21
That's what I just did.
00:08:22
Yeah, because that has never won anything.
00:08:25
You all NGO he know series wins. No nothing.
00:08:33
All he did a bad team.
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Is that Is that what your friends want? A dude that took a whole bunch of shots for a bad team? We're gonna overpaid for a dude that took a whole bunch of shots on a bad team.
00:08:45
That's what we want.
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We don't.
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Morgan the future for a guy that took a bunch of shots for a bad team.
00:08:50
No, thank you.
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I'm gonna save y'all a Knicks fans.
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Listen, when you buy my Christmas present, you only have to wrap it.
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Just bring it to my house.
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E don't.
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It's hard man. Kusakabe again.
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He's putting these really nice stats for team.
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That's as bad as a mix as the as the next man.
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I I understand.
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I'm just saying he was a loser, cool until he was not so.
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These guys are young.
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They're learning how toe win.
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I don't understand these things perception that anybody short of LeBron is a loser.
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So not everybody.
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Everybody comes in and immediately.
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The impact player is an impact player in terms off impacting winds.
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And Levin was never supposed to be this guy.
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First of all, be Levin was drafted based on pure athleticism.
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Nobody thought 26 27 points score now.
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Originally, he was a after to be like a point guard.
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He just continue to get better and better and developed his game.
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So his game is at a point now, now the next.
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Now he's now it's time for him to take the next step.
00:10:00
He's still crazy.
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Young.
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That's next time to start to start elevating other, other other.
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These are the type of players good teams, smart teeth get at the right at the right time.
00:10:12
I put Christian within that category as well.
00:10:14
You get a gamble now.
00:10:16
It's a gamble, but you're educated, a smart gamble, and then and then you're the one on the better end of it.
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But at the same time, no team just gonna hand them to you.
00:10:27
Agreed.
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And the one thing just toe like regenerate member.
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He made the first turn around to his whole career, starting with Tom Thibodeau.
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And that familiarity is one of the reasons why I feel like he is a okay.
00:10:44
Get because that means Tom Thibodeau also signed off on it.
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And when your coach is comfortable with the players that he puts in the game, that makes it all clear.
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Like you gotta understand.
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Like if Tom Thibodeau says, you know what, I could continue growing, Um, Zach Lavine, that you can live with something like that and given up a bunch of picks.
00:11:08
This, yes, crazy trying to do.
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That's why I'd rather give origin than give up the picks.
00:11:14
Because, like I said, I look at it from I look at it from the non attachment because I'm looking it as me going into the offseason having a shooting guard that was scoring 14 on 13 shots, not crazy athletic and improving and improving that position now.
00:11:35
Five years on the line, RJ could be somebody else, but as of today.
00:11:40
And I would assume as of next year, as of the two years that exactly Venus under contract, I don't know if r j is gonna get to our exactly these numbers in the next two years.
00:11:50
Do you guys think way? Just come to yourself.
00:11:54
So first and foremost, you can be a rookie coming and making a big impact genre and just do that right.
00:11:59
You're really saying exactly being can you say, exactly came to the game? He's being something he was not supposed to be, right? But we're ready to sell short R.
00:12:07
J.
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Barrett who probably show I'm not selling short.
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That is, that is ridiculous.
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This is the ultimate compliment, Thio RJ, Because I don't wanna e don't want to give up multiple picks.
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I don't wanna give up multiple picks in one of the best draft in the past in well, everybody saying that I don't wanna give up multiple picks.
00:12:25
I'd rather give up R.
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J.
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Because I feel like RJ value is worth what? What? So this is a kind of But why is it that our why e don't you have that same trading e for R J.
00:12:39
Barrett as you.
00:12:40
Why don't you have that same hope That **** r J Barrett show me this year? Zach Lavine hasn't now.
00:12:45
Obviously, Zach Lavine is not a matter of a why is that way discount? Arjun? Why can't RJ grow into exactly e a player? But a guy that could be as productive and we don't give those assets? We keep those asked for something else.
00:13:01
Wait, this is this is what this is strictly so things is simply a matter of time.
00:13:09
Think I can do? Okay, here's a Here's a question.
00:13:12
Do you feel like in the next two years, RJ can be exactly beings level in two years at the 25.
00:13:20
38% from three level, 45% from the field? Yes, it's hard to say.
00:13:33
I don't know.
00:13:34
I don't know what I don't remember exactly Didn't come to me.
00:13:36
I don't remember his jump shot forms.
00:13:38
I wasn't paying shoot.
00:13:39
He came in, He shoot, He came in.
00:13:42
He had he had, he had a he had a shot.
00:13:43
He's not a You could just look at his free throw percentage.
00:13:45
He was always he had a stroke.
00:13:47
He's not He's not the He wasn't the same time.
00:13:49
They're just different type of players.
00:13:50
I'm just saying I'm just saying as a G if I'm tryingto if I'm trying to accelerate my plan, I go looking.
00:14:03
Now if I feel like I'm gonna do this the right way Okay, Right way.
00:14:09
And then I wanna wait in.
00:14:10
Just I could We could wait, too.
00:14:12
But I'm just saying, like we're the ones discussing Zach Lavine.
00:14:15
When you call Zach Lavine, they're gonna ask the RJ you're gonna ask.
00:14:19
They're gonna is gonna hurt.
00:14:22
You're not gonna get it with Bobby Portis.
00:14:24
And, frankly, Takina, I don't want to do that.
00:14:28
Let me ask you this.
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What do you give up, Mitch? Exactly Mean? I would.
00:14:35
But why do I want a Chicago book? E have what? That name Window corner.
00:14:42
You know, you have a that's more skilled for than everything.
00:14:46
Yeah, Carter.
00:14:49
But with no Carter, Carter hasn't been able to finish the season since being in the league.
00:14:54
He's been injury prone every single year, and it hasn't even started.
00:15:01
And it doesn't even play more.
00:15:09
Yeah, we also have Daniel Gafford who? They're gone and they also have Lori marketing.
00:15:15
So yeah, it might be a nonstarter, but I'm just saying I thought the idea of treating exactly Vina's that I feel like one of the great one of the things about exactly Veena also that as a character thing that I like is the fact that, um, tips treated him when he was hurt.
00:15:34
Yeah, and they both still have mad love for each other. Yep.
00:15:44
And this is a guy that seems to the guy who hasn't had the best relationship with some young players, you know? So the fact that him and Zach Lavine they had that much mutual respect.
00:15:59
That's that's a good place to start when your coach and one of your better players have that kind of, uh, you know, mutual admiration right on.
00:16:11
And also, I feel exactly the being coached by Thibodeau is different.
00:16:15
Exactly.
00:16:16
Being being coached by more, regardless of if you think Borland is as good as it is or whatever, there is a difference.
00:16:22
There e feel like I feel like those numbers those counting numbers will be will be more impactful on on what I offered, like three picks in this year's draft Ah, young guy can't really.
00:16:51
The exact Levine is just valuable as most superstars in the league, so I mean, he just won't be.
00:16:57
Won't be able to trade it.
00:16:59
How many? How many people can you trade RJ for? That's better than that.
00:17:07
He not many.
00:17:09
My only argument is I constantly want toe build my team with wings rather than I'm not giving up.
00:17:16
And I have to have two picks in the 21st draft that's loaded with wings.
00:17:22
Exactly.
00:17:23
Like I said, I keep drafting quarterback until I find the right one is, It's the main position that I want, you know? That's Matic.
00:17:36
Alright, E love Mitch. I'll trade Mitch.
00:17:42
If I'm improving the five, if the five I'm getting back is better, and then also, he's not like 100 years old.
00:17:48
He's not old.
00:17:49
The 24 years old.
00:17:51
Yeah, just try.
00:17:53
You would try to just put Michael.
00:17:56
What do you think? That's why would you trade a mitzvah? Gloria? Marketing.
00:18:02
No, no, no.
00:18:04
See, market impact.
00:18:06
Mitch is way more impactful than marketing.
00:18:10
Everything I'm scared about Mitch is that I don't know.
00:18:12
I don't think that he's gonna justify giving his agent.
00:18:16
I know they're gonna go for it.
00:18:17
I just don't know how we're gonna justify posse pain said close to 70 million on you.
00:18:24
Trade them.
00:18:25
Then you need a freedom.
00:18:26
Then you have the team option.
00:18:28
I just don't know.
00:18:29
What I don't get is everybody's trying toe set up this preemptive attack for Mitch's negotiations.
00:18:36
We have so much bigger issues that worried about you should negotiations.
00:18:40
No, Aziz, I think the attack is just we have to be prepared because for I mean, he's he's ****ing rich hall, right? And I at first I thought that was gonna angle trying to hang them Thio.
00:18:52
Possibly Like, I don't really know what's gonna happen.
00:18:54
But so Mitch is just is just too many question marks like I like Mitch is game again.
00:18:59
I mean, I'm hoping that this stupid instagram stuff actually comes through.
00:19:03
He's actually sure I know he's not gonna be doing the Shammgod bull****, but at least getting five shots a game, I'd be happy. I'd be ecstatic.
00:19:11
I think it's hard to project.
00:19:12
I mean, where the way where the one where the one is in control.
00:19:17
We have a team option on him.
00:19:20
So So we have two years left on.
00:19:23
Yeah, here and then we have a team option.
00:19:25
We have a team option after that.
00:19:26
So when he comes, if he comes in, the only way he can ask for ridiculous amount of money is if he balls out.
00:19:33
And if he balls out, that's a good thing.
00:19:36
A.
00:19:37
That's a good thing.
00:19:38
And then, if the contract demands are too out of control, we still have his rights to trade him.
00:19:45
So this is to me I feel like this conversation comes up a lot on the bottom, on the blog's and on whatever I feel like everybody is comparing this preemptive attack and worried about.
00:19:57
We got other things in front of that, like he's on a team option.
00:20:01
If he again, the only way you can ask from him right now, he couldn't ask for nothing, because I'm gonna tell you, you can't even stay out of follow trouble to start.
00:20:08
You don't play less than have to get you played less than half the games in terms of minutes per game.
00:20:14
You know what I'm saying? You don't shoot outside of 3 ft, so you know, I'm saying so.
00:20:21
I'm not worried about this.
00:20:23
If it's like, yeah, if Mitch comes out with some crazy number, that means that he must have had he must must have his thing.
00:20:31
Eso falling out.
00:20:33
So are asked the question about balling out.
00:20:35
I think balling out for Mitch is double double A top pop India rebounder.
00:20:41
17 on defense.
00:20:44
I'm not e.
00:20:47
He's not a great rebounder, so I can't I can't project things that I just need them Stay out of the easy stuff.
00:20:55
Stay out of foul trouble.
00:20:56
He should.
00:20:57
He projects has a double double if you extrapolate his his his his like minutes to like for 30 for 30 double, double, top three in blocks.
00:21:07
Really should be leading in blocks by the by the way, he's up there.
00:21:11
Anyway, he's up there, So But you just you just say, hey, that stuff, that he's not good.
00:21:19
So right now he's not legit, not a scorer.
00:21:22
He's legit, not a rebounder.
00:21:24
So for balling out means he'd have to come out of his bubble somewhere.
00:21:28
Yeah, shooting outside of 3 ft.
00:21:32
Shoot out. Yeah.
00:21:36
Uh huh.
00:21:37
Hey, don't even shoot them.
00:21:40
Start shooting period 50 The other thing is, I need him to be like a threat in the screen.
00:21:47
Like from a.
00:21:49
He needs to clear people out when he screamed.
00:21:52
He hates the set like good screens set people up and also with Thibodeau's past offenses.
00:21:58
Dribble handoffs is one of the things that he's gonna have to get good at.
00:22:02
So that is that full screen, that dribble handoff they do.
00:22:06
They fake it, turned around and then give it off on the other side.
00:22:10
That's like Green, too, So he's gonna have to want a Q development.
00:22:14
Um, that's gonna have to happen that he did show under Mike Miller.
00:22:18
But you know, he's gonna have to show up overall growth and like he's gonna have toe improve his rebound.
00:22:26
And I think that the developmental staff also is helping on that, and by what his trainer said, Um, he said that he is working on him with just locals.
00:22:38
Locals move, so he made develops.
00:22:40
All have.
00:22:41
We all have our standards of what he needs to do to pay it, and I'm sure the next half has there's too, so I'm not concerned about I'm not concerned about miss like they're gonna have a certain set of things that they want from him in order to give him whatever exorbitant about the money.
00:22:56
He asked for it.
00:22:58
But I'm not treating them now because I'm afraid of what the contract might be.
00:23:02
That's insane, E.
00:23:09
I'm also saying because it's solid play.
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I mean, I'm the same.
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Well, look at Mitch.
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Determine what Thibodeau is gonna play.
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I'm just I always try to see All right, All the such he's had obviously, Cat was a while.
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We talented player come out of Kentucky.
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Um, they also had, you know, uh, you know, Wake Tom Thibodeau using I don't see the same our skill set to say in terms of defense are the passing I cube off? No, I don't see that a *****.
00:23:44
So I was just taking it all right, if you if you had, right? Yeah, he has a team option.
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It's just that I just you know, if you want to go and also to kind of basically more what time? Thio, But tip tips, tips acquired those teams.
00:24:03
That Chicago team was 500 team.
00:24:08
What tips got there? And those players were already on there and then he took him from, like, 41 41 toe like, 60 games.
00:24:16
I think it is No one.
00:24:18
No, no, no.
00:24:20
It was already on the squad.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Wait, What? Her higher a little bang and Yeo? Yep.
00:24:40
Yeah, Yeah.
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All those guys were on the team, and then they were They were building something before it.
00:24:45
Tips got their tips, took him to the next level.
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And, um, and, uh, also the same thing with Minnesota.
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Those players were there when he got there.
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So it's not like I can't sit there and be like, This is what Tim's like.
00:24:58
Tips got there is like, This is no a skill set.
00:25:01
I'm gonna use them this way.
00:25:04
You know, tips going through a whole bunch of different point guards.
00:25:07
Yes, he's a good coach.
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You give a minute, you'll figure something.
00:25:12
You'll figure you'll figure something to do with Mitch.
00:25:15
The thing about Thibodeau two, he already said, I'm just working on guy on what guys do best.
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Like he's just trying to keep guys in there and what they do best.
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That's the same thing Erik Spoelstra does.
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He just reinforces what you do best.
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And I'm just being honest with you.
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Like he makes me feel more confident.
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I know.
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Gamble.
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You were a heart.
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You have the hard on from a guy.
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But you see, you see how you do that.
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There were other people who go that tips more.
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I just said I wasn't so I was acting c e game we had to do was, you know, dead ball plays.
00:26:11
E started picking role.
00:26:12
He was living in many ways, but right about what he's doing with individual players.
00:26:16
I liked his one on one management development of players.
00:26:19
People control the eyes all they want, but oh, okay.
00:26:26
Like right now, the ringer also set it to that.
00:26:30
Atkinson is right now, just the developmental coach, and he will not get a head coaching job because everyone views him as the backup or the helper to the actual coach.
00:26:45
And I'm sorry, but he got to interview reviews with Philly.
00:26:53
I think he got two interviews with Philly and still didn't get the job.
00:26:58
E agree He has a job, has just joined from Team E.
00:27:05
I just like what he did with that you know, like did Joe has, like video, agreed.
00:27:11
E.
00:27:13
I just saw a team because when I'm looking at it on my again the thing with Tom Thibodeau and I give credit to me out because we all rose, I think get a proper job getting guys like Mike Woodson, a assistant cultures.
00:27:25
So it's not time.
00:27:26
Typical Santa little again when he was with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
00:27:32
All about a lot.
00:27:33
But when you put in a guy like Butler, you're not just being a guy, but because of his talent.
00:27:37
You bring a guy like because he's here talking peace.
00:27:40
He's basically your coach on the floor.
00:27:42
Yeah, that he read the room wrong with that team, right? As much as I like Butler there different ways to leave and honest.
00:27:49
Yes, you could say Wiggins above whatever, Captain or whatever you want to say.
00:27:52
But I think Tom Thibodeau, he It's a great exes, old guy.
00:27:57
He's a great practice.
00:27:58
You talked about how he changed his team up.
00:28:01
Derrick Rose went down.
00:28:02
They played a lot more triangle toe fit.
00:28:03
The guys are on the team, but I think that in this one reason why the Mike Woodson on these people.
00:28:08
He's a guy.
00:28:09
He's from that George Karl school of basketball where it's excellent, goes right, your man.
00:28:14
I'm a man.
00:28:15
I'm gonna show you.
00:28:16
I don't have to be the collar.
00:28:17
You're not saying this part as George Karl, right? But he doesn't know how to read the rules, right? I think sometimes.
00:28:23
Right.
00:28:24
So, you know, that's why I was just talking about I thought that Atkinson did a better job in that regard.
00:28:28
Now, the Leon Rose, I think, did a bang bang job.
00:28:31
Right? So I think it's time to open, learn how the freaking have some healthy emotion.
00:28:37
But they know how to read people better right now, be that.
00:28:44
But it is good me that I should have been too big from whatever.
00:28:47
But I think Atkinson he goes so low.
00:28:50
Do you think, Akerson, if you want to say the Hawks, right, You think you better No, it was John Collins trading on way.
00:29:00
Got it.
00:29:01
E No.
00:29:03
The reason I got a rebuttal some of the things you just said, No.
00:29:07
Once you start the pick and roll because I mean trail lives off that role The problem is, you gotta understand.
00:29:16
Um, Cam reddish This season showed some Kevin not like there's some heartless camera adage.
00:29:26
Um, he plays defensive.
00:29:29
He does, but at the same time, like there's some heart stuff missing there like there's a lot that was missing from Tree Young.
00:29:40
There's a lot missing from a coach Could be so good.
00:29:44
But then still can't take you over the top like sympathy for the Hawks.
00:29:49
I don't see where he would help them.
00:29:51
Now.
00:29:52
I think that he could.
00:29:53
He could have probably gotten some of the same effect from Phoenix.
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um, so who knows? I just feel like the odd one out, Big dog.
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Can you like the other one out Wreck you to what? E didn't know.
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You gotta have 45 people here.
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There you go.
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I was laying in bed talking ****.
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What? Really? Hey, said that **** like that's new.
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He's like, Yeah, I was just ****ing **** laying in the bed.
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That's what they do.
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E o something position of the other team.
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I'm Chicago.
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I don't have to take the mean Exactly.
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You don't, right? I mean, I'm not sitting at home.
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I'm not sitting at home as the Chicago fans demon about Knox and Fortis.
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No, right.
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We're the ones that sitting here late at night discussing Levin, whoever the team with the best players, the team with the level.
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Right, So it's gonna hurt away.
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It's either gonna cost you, RJ, because they're losing their starting to guard.
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You're gonna They're gonna they're gonna get They're gonna wanna throw that whole.
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That's why I said you got to give up the eight.
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Keep your 27 and give up Randall to make the money.
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Work like that makes a little bit more sense in the sense that, like, you gotta give something up there loaded at the power forward spot, though you're gonna have to take market than two because you're gonna have to take market marketing from home.
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You're not taking but mark you.
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But there goes.
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That goes again.
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You're acting like we're taking marketing for them from them, and we're doing them a favor, E.
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That's what I'm saying. You gotta give up.
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E even mentioned the eighth pick like those air fix that.
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You've gotta give up to make this thing work or make it in Taison because they could easily sell themselves on a full rebuild based on a thick this year.
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Dallas pick next year.
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Porzingis is hurt.
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I get Randall, who's a 2010 guy and then also I get, you know, like Frank, who's, ah, good defensive player And another wing that could replace because, like, right now, Kobe White is gonna be the certain point guard who is gonna be a shooting guard.
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Who's gonna be a three.
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Cannot be the Knicks gm.
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Can I be Can I be Leon Rose? Then a shoot try me actually trying.
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I come from the difference but trying.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So you come from Denver, right? Yeah.
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So this benefits the next.
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All right, So if you hang up this phone before you take this deal, you could stay your ass in the lottery.
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You already have Zach Lavine.
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And you already have those pieces that you're happy with.
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And that **** has gotten You're absolutely nowhere but in the worst position than the Knicks are in this lottery.
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You're right, Right.
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But but but the team still exists.
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You didn't create the team from scratch.
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This team is already in place.
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You took the job with this team in place already, and you want to improve it and I'll give you the pieces to improve it with, so I e give you 26 points support.
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Help me Help me improve it.
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Okay, well, you can keep your 26 point scorer and I'll go talk to Indiana in Detroit.
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Both of them are aggressively looking.
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Thio, move ahead of you in the Chicago Bulls D m.
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I could get Victor Oladipo right now, as opposed to me giving you something for Zach Lavine, right? E do a sign and trade for Christian would from Detroit.
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E even go.
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****! When you call, you start talking about all the other things you could do with other GM.
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You know that? The phone to listen to this.
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What's your what's your ass? What you calling me? What's your ass? So here, this So I want not only do I want exact Levina also wanted a quarter, Okay, right.
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So I want e interrupted.
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That just made it slightly enticing because that's 30 million off my book and my owners cheap.
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Right? So and so So listen.
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So here. So here's the thing.
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Here's the thing also may take Um um what's the name? I got my guy.
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What's the eight? That was the veteran powerful, which I got marketing.
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No, that is young.
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I may may they also look Thio take that is young from you.
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If you take this eight pit, there's 27 pick in the 38th pick.
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So does that give you right? So you like how does that benefit me? That takes, like 40 mil off the books and it also gives you the chance to get killing Hayes and Devin vessel.
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So is Kelly and Hayes and Devin Vessel and upgrade over of Zach Lavine now in the short term, but in the long term, it gives you the requisite pieces to be a playoff team.
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Now, you could start Kobe attitude you gave me the are you don't need Thio.
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Tell me I'm aware of what's on my team.
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OK? All right.
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I like that you are over.
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You are over.
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So we did pick up plastic.
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How you want? How you want me that you Are you in the paper bags or plastic? You You ready? Can I respond? Yeah, um I believe your overvalue might need to unload some of these salaries off my books.
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Sure.
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Me.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Is that how you did the I'm really enticed by you taking all the porter.
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Um, that's the story.
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But I'm gonna need more than I mean, at the end of the day, I am giving up exactly being whose a borderline all star.
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Not even in his prime yet.
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And his and he's on.
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He's under contract at a very, very, very reasonable price for the next two years.
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Almost like slave labor that you're getting from us.
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Okay, So just to let you know I can I can offer that same deal to Sacramento and get Buddy Hill, right? E o.
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You have a good Sacramento.
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Nice talking to you.
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So Okay.
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All right, so So I guess what I'm assuming is that you're interested in and say in a r J or a 2021 big.
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Okay.
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All right.
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It's been nice talking to you, man.
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Hey, listen, after you get tired, you can come work for me.
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We'll see.
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Because because Because I'm a leak, I'm a leak.
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This did I Maliki offer to the media, and it's gonna make you look like a clown, you know? Alright, E gotta go my own thing and somebody else has called me.
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Oh, I'm just I'm gonna eat this toe.
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Berman toe.
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Let him know what? You're still I'm sorry.
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E offered them, offered them three picks in this year's draft, offered to take dead money from them and then then almost conceded giving up some of my play option players for Zach Lavine.
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So I'm giving them two options on three different fronts.
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And he said no, I need more for inefficient.
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26 20 A is very efficient, right? Right.
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How about in the win column.
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How efficient way we're working on that.
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We have a lot of his here for, You know, a coach that was worse than David Fizdale is tough for me. I'm sorry.
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You're not gonna get that one for me. Crazy.
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Yeah, well, but you know what? Don't I saved us from over paying for a loser.
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That's what I just did.
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Yeah, because that has never won anything.
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You all NGO he know series wins. No nothing.
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All he did a bad team.
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Is that Is that what your friends want? A dude that took a whole bunch of shots for a bad team? We're gonna overpaid for a dude that took a whole bunch of shots on a bad team.
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That's what we want.
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We don't.
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Morgan the future for a guy that took a bunch of shots for a bad team.
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No, thank you.
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I'm gonna save y'all a Knicks fans.
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Listen, when you buy my Christmas present, you only have to wrap it.
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Just bring it to my house.
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E don't.
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It's hard man. Kusakabe again.
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He's putting these really nice stats for team.
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That's as bad as a mix as the as the next man.
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I I understand.
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I'm just saying he was a loser, cool until he was not so.
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These guys are young.
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They're learning how toe win.
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I don't understand these things perception that anybody short of LeBron is a loser.
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So not everybody.
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Everybody comes in and immediately.
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The impact player is an impact player in terms off impacting winds.
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And Levin was never supposed to be this guy.
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First of all, be Levin was drafted based on pure athleticism.
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Nobody thought 26 27 points score now.
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Originally, he was a after to be like a point guard.
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He just continue to get better and better and developed his game.
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So his game is at a point now, now the next.
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Now he's now it's time for him to take the next step.
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He's still crazy.
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Young.
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That's next time to start to start elevating other, other other.
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These are the type of players good teams, smart teeth get at the right at the right time.
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I put Christian within that category as well.
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You get a gamble now.
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It's a gamble, but you're educated, a smart gamble, and then and then you're the one on the better end of it.
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But at the same time, no team just gonna hand them to you.
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Agreed.
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And the one thing just toe like regenerate member.
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He made the first turn around to his whole career, starting with Tom Thibodeau.
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And that familiarity is one of the reasons why I feel like he is a okay.
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Get because that means Tom Thibodeau also signed off on it.
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And when your coach is comfortable with the players that he puts in the game, that makes it all clear.
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Like you gotta understand.
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Like if Tom Thibodeau says, you know what, I could continue growing, Um, Zach Lavine, that you can live with something like that and given up a bunch of picks.
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This, yes, crazy trying to do.
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That's why I'd rather give origin than give up the picks.
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Because, like I said, I look at it from I look at it from the non attachment because I'm looking it as me going into the offseason having a shooting guard that was scoring 14 on 13 shots, not crazy athletic and improving and improving that position now.
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Five years on the line, RJ could be somebody else, but as of today.
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And I would assume as of next year, as of the two years that exactly Venus under contract, I don't know if r j is gonna get to our exactly these numbers in the next two years.
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Do you guys think way? Just come to yourself.
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So first and foremost, you can be a rookie coming and making a big impact genre and just do that right.
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You're really saying exactly being can you say, exactly came to the game? He's being something he was not supposed to be, right? But we're ready to sell short R.
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J.
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Barrett who probably show I'm not selling short.
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That is, that is ridiculous.
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This is the ultimate compliment, Thio RJ, Because I don't wanna e don't want to give up multiple picks.
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I don't wanna give up multiple picks in one of the best draft in the past in well, everybody saying that I don't wanna give up multiple picks.
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I'd rather give up R.
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J.
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Because I feel like RJ value is worth what? What? So this is a kind of But why is it that our why e don't you have that same trading e for R J.
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Barrett as you.
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Why don't you have that same hope That **** r J Barrett show me this year? Zach Lavine hasn't now.
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Obviously, Zach Lavine is not a matter of a why is that way discount? Arjun? Why can't RJ grow into exactly e a player? But a guy that could be as productive and we don't give those assets? We keep those asked for something else.
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Wait, this is this is what this is strictly so things is simply a matter of time.
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Think I can do? Okay, here's a Here's a question.
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Do you feel like in the next two years, RJ can be exactly beings level in two years at the 25.
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38% from three level, 45% from the field? Yes, it's hard to say.
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I don't know.
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I don't know what I don't remember exactly Didn't come to me.
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I don't remember his jump shot forms.
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I wasn't paying shoot.
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He came in, He shoot, He came in.
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He had he had, he had a he had a shot.
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He's not a You could just look at his free throw percentage.
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He was always he had a stroke.
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He's not He's not the He wasn't the same time.
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They're just different type of players.
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I'm just saying I'm just saying as a G if I'm tryingto if I'm trying to accelerate my plan, I go looking.
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Now if I feel like I'm gonna do this the right way Okay, Right way.
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And then I wanna wait in.
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Just I could We could wait, too.
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But I'm just saying, like we're the ones discussing Zach Lavine.
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When you call Zach Lavine, they're gonna ask the RJ you're gonna ask.
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They're gonna is gonna hurt.
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You're not gonna get it with Bobby Portis.
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And, frankly, Takina, I don't want to do that.
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Let me ask you this.
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What do you give up, Mitch? Exactly Mean? I would.
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But why do I want a Chicago book? E have what? That name Window corner.
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You know, you have a that's more skilled for than everything.
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Yeah, Carter.
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But with no Carter, Carter hasn't been able to finish the season since being in the league.
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He's been injury prone every single year, and it hasn't even started.
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And it doesn't even play more.
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Yeah, we also have Daniel Gafford who? They're gone and they also have Lori marketing.
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So yeah, it might be a nonstarter, but I'm just saying I thought the idea of treating exactly Vina's that I feel like one of the great one of the things about exactly Veena also that as a character thing that I like is the fact that, um, tips treated him when he was hurt.
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Yeah, and they both still have mad love for each other. Yep.
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And this is a guy that seems to the guy who hasn't had the best relationship with some young players, you know? So the fact that him and Zach Lavine they had that much mutual respect.
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That's that's a good place to start when your coach and one of your better players have that kind of, uh, you know, mutual admiration right on.
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And also, I feel exactly the being coached by Thibodeau is different.
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Exactly.
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Being being coached by more, regardless of if you think Borland is as good as it is or whatever, there is a difference.
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There e feel like I feel like those numbers those counting numbers will be will be more impactful on on what I offered, like three picks in this year's draft Ah, young guy can't really.
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The exact Levine is just valuable as most superstars in the league, so I mean, he just won't be.
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Won't be able to trade it.
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How many? How many people can you trade RJ for? That's better than that.
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He not many.
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My only argument is I constantly want toe build my team with wings rather than I'm not giving up.
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And I have to have two picks in the 21st draft that's loaded with wings.
00:17:22
Exactly.
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Like I said, I keep drafting quarterback until I find the right one is, It's the main position that I want, you know? That's Matic.
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Alright, E love Mitch. I'll trade Mitch.
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If I'm improving the five, if the five I'm getting back is better, and then also, he's not like 100 years old.
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He's not old.
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The 24 years old.
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Yeah, just try.
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You would try to just put Michael.
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What do you think? That's why would you trade a mitzvah? Gloria? Marketing.
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No, no, no.
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See, market impact.
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Mitch is way more impactful than marketing.
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Everything I'm scared about Mitch is that I don't know.
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I don't think that he's gonna justify giving his agent.
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I know they're gonna go for it.
00:18:17
I just don't know how we're gonna justify posse pain said close to 70 million on you.
00:18:24
Trade them.
00:18:25
Then you need a freedom.
00:18:26
Then you have the team option.
00:18:28
I just don't know.
00:18:29
What I don't get is everybody's trying toe set up this preemptive attack for Mitch's negotiations.
00:18:36
We have so much bigger issues that worried about you should negotiations.
00:18:40
No, Aziz, I think the attack is just we have to be prepared because for I mean, he's he's ****ing rich hall, right? And I at first I thought that was gonna angle trying to hang them Thio.
00:18:52
Possibly Like, I don't really know what's gonna happen.
00:18:54
But so Mitch is just is just too many question marks like I like Mitch is game again.
00:18:59
I mean, I'm hoping that this stupid instagram stuff actually comes through.
00:19:03
He's actually sure I know he's not gonna be doing the Shammgod bull****, but at least getting five shots a game, I'd be happy. I'd be ecstatic.
00:19:11
I think it's hard to project.
00:19:12
I mean, where the way where the one where the one is in control.
00:19:17
We have a team option on him.
00:19:20
So So we have two years left on.
00:19:23
Yeah, here and then we have a team option.
00:19:25
We have a team option after that.
00:19:26
So when he comes, if he comes in, the only way he can ask for ridiculous amount of money is if he balls out.
00:19:33
And if he balls out, that's a good thing.
00:19:36
A.
00:19:37
That's a good thing.
00:19:38
And then, if the contract demands are too out of control, we still have his rights to trade him.
00:19:45
So this is to me I feel like this conversation comes up a lot on the bottom, on the blog's and on whatever I feel like everybody is comparing this preemptive attack and worried about.
00:19:57
We got other things in front of that, like he's on a team option.
00:20:01
If he again, the only way you can ask from him right now, he couldn't ask for nothing, because I'm gonna tell you, you can't even stay out of follow trouble to start.
00:20:08
You don't play less than have to get you played less than half the games in terms of minutes per game.
00:20:14
You know what I'm saying? You don't shoot outside of 3 ft, so you know, I'm saying so.
00:20:21
I'm not worried about this.
00:20:23
If it's like, yeah, if Mitch comes out with some crazy number, that means that he must have had he must must have his thing.
00:20:31
Eso falling out.
00:20:33
So are asked the question about balling out.
00:20:35
I think balling out for Mitch is double double A top pop India rebounder.
00:20:41
17 on defense.
00:20:44
I'm not e.
00:20:47
He's not a great rebounder, so I can't I can't project things that I just need them Stay out of the easy stuff.
00:20:55
Stay out of foul trouble.
00:20:56
He should.
00:20:57
He projects has a double double if you extrapolate his his his his like minutes to like for 30 for 30 double, double, top three in blocks.
00:21:07
Really should be leading in blocks by the by the way, he's up there.
00:21:11
Anyway, he's up there, So But you just you just say, hey, that stuff, that he's not good.
00:21:19
So right now he's not legit, not a scorer.
00:21:22
He's legit, not a rebounder.
00:21:24
So for balling out means he'd have to come out of his bubble somewhere.
00:21:28
Yeah, shooting outside of 3 ft.
00:21:32
Shoot out. Yeah.
00:21:36
Uh huh.
00:21:37
Hey, don't even shoot them.
00:21:40
Start shooting period 50 The other thing is, I need him to be like a threat in the screen.
00:21:47
Like from a.
00:21:49
He needs to clear people out when he screamed.
00:21:52
He hates the set like good screens set people up and also with Thibodeau's past offenses.
00:21:58
Dribble handoffs is one of the things that he's gonna have to get good at.
00:22:02
So that is that full screen, that dribble handoff they do.
00:22:06
They fake it, turned around and then give it off on the other side.
00:22:10
That's like Green, too, So he's gonna have to want a Q development.
00:22:14
Um, that's gonna have to happen that he did show under Mike Miller.
00:22:18
But you know, he's gonna have to show up overall growth and like he's gonna have toe improve his rebound.
00:22:26
And I think that the developmental staff also is helping on that, and by what his trainer said, Um, he said that he is working on him with just locals.
00:22:38
Locals move, so he made develops.
00:22:40
All have.
00:22:41
We all have our standards of what he needs to do to pay it, and I'm sure the next half has there's too, so I'm not concerned about I'm not concerned about miss like they're gonna have a certain set of things that they want from him in order to give him whatever exorbitant about the money.
00:22:56
He asked for it.
00:22:58
But I'm not treating them now because I'm afraid of what the contract might be.
00:23:02
That's insane, E.
00:23:09
I'm also saying because it's solid play.
00:23:10
I mean, I'm the same.
00:23:12
Well, look at Mitch.
00:23:16
Determine what Thibodeau is gonna play.
00:23:18
I'm just I always try to see All right, All the such he's had obviously, Cat was a while.
00:23:23
We talented player come out of Kentucky.
00:23:26
Um, they also had, you know, uh, you know, Wake Tom Thibodeau using I don't see the same our skill set to say in terms of defense are the passing I cube off? No, I don't see that a *****.
00:23:44
So I was just taking it all right, if you if you had, right? Yeah, he has a team option.
00:23:52
It's just that I just you know, if you want to go and also to kind of basically more what time? Thio, But tip tips, tips acquired those teams.
00:24:03
That Chicago team was 500 team.
00:24:08
What tips got there? And those players were already on there and then he took him from, like, 41 41 toe like, 60 games.
00:24:16
I think it is No one.
00:24:18
No, no, no.
00:24:20
It was already on the squad.
00:24:24
Yeah.
00:24:25
Yeah.
00:24:30
Wait, What? Her higher a little bang and Yeo? Yep.
00:24:40
Yeah, Yeah.
00:24:42
All those guys were on the team, and then they were They were building something before it.
00:24:45
Tips got their tips, took him to the next level.
00:24:48
And, um, and, uh, also the same thing with Minnesota.
00:24:53
Those players were there when he got there.
00:24:55
So it's not like I can't sit there and be like, This is what Tim's like.
00:24:58
Tips got there is like, This is no a skill set.
00:25:01
I'm gonna use them this way.
00:25:04
You know, tips going through a whole bunch of different point guards.
00:25:07
Yes, he's a good coach.
00:25:10
You give a minute, you'll figure something.
00:25:12
You'll figure you'll figure something to do with Mitch.
00:25:15
The thing about Thibodeau two, he already said, I'm just working on guy on what guys do best.
00:25:21
Like he's just trying to keep guys in there and what they do best.
00:25:27
That's the same thing Erik Spoelstra does.
00:25:30
He just reinforces what you do best.
00:25:33
And I'm just being honest with you.
00:25:36
Like he makes me feel more confident.
00:25:41
I know.
00:25:42
Gamble.
00:25:43
You were a heart.
00:25:45
You have the hard on from a guy.
00:25:49
But you see, you see how you do that.
00:25:52
There were other people who go that tips more.
00:25:55
I just said I wasn't so I was acting c e game we had to do was, you know, dead ball plays.
00:26:11
E started picking role.
00:26:12
He was living in many ways, but right about what he's doing with individual players.
00:26:16
I liked his one on one management development of players.
00:26:19
People control the eyes all they want, but oh, okay.
00:26:26
Like right now, the ringer also set it to that.
00:26:30
Atkinson is right now, just the developmental coach, and he will not get a head coaching job because everyone views him as the backup or the helper to the actual coach.
00:26:45
And I'm sorry, but he got to interview reviews with Philly.
00:26:53
I think he got two interviews with Philly and still didn't get the job.
00:26:58
E agree He has a job, has just joined from Team E.
00:27:05
I just like what he did with that you know, like did Joe has, like video, agreed.
00:27:11
E.
00:27:13
I just saw a team because when I'm looking at it on my again the thing with Tom Thibodeau and I give credit to me out because we all rose, I think get a proper job getting guys like Mike Woodson, a assistant cultures.
00:27:25
So it's not time.
00:27:26
Typical Santa little again when he was with the Minnesota Timberwolves.
00:27:32
All about a lot.
00:27:33
But when you put in a guy like Butler, you're not just being a guy, but because of his talent.
00:27:37
You bring a guy like because he's here talking peace.
00:27:40
He's basically your coach on the floor.
00:27:42
Yeah, that he read the room wrong with that team, right? As much as I like Butler there different ways to leave and honest.
00:27:49
Yes, you could say Wiggins above whatever, Captain or whatever you want to say.
00:27:52
But I think Tom Thibodeau, he It's a great exes, old guy.
00:27:57
He's a great practice.
00:27:58
You talked about how he changed his team up.
00:28:01
Derrick Rose went down.
00:28:02
They played a lot more triangle toe fit.
00:28:03
The guys are on the team, but I think that in this one reason why the Mike Woodson on these people.
00:28:08
He's a guy.
00:28:09
He's from that George Karl school of basketball where it's excellent, goes right, your man.
00:28:14
I'm a man.
00:28:15
I'm gonna show you.
00:28:16
I don't have to be the collar.
00:28:17
You're not saying this part as George Karl, right? But he doesn't know how to read the rules, right? I think sometimes.
00:28:23
Right.
00:28:24
So, you know, that's why I was just talking about I thought that Atkinson did a better job in that regard.
00:28:28
Now, the Leon Rose, I think, did a bang bang job.
00:28:31
Right? So I think it's time to open, learn how the freaking have some healthy emotion.
00:28:37
But they know how to read people better right now, be that.
00:28:44
But it is good me that I should have been too big from whatever.
00:28:47
But I think Atkinson he goes so low.
00:28:50
Do you think, Akerson, if you want to say the Hawks, right, You think you better No, it was John Collins trading on way.
00:29:00
Got it.
00:29:01
E No.
00:29:03
The reason I got a rebuttal some of the things you just said, No.
00:29:07
Once you start the pick and roll because I mean trail lives off that role The problem is, you gotta understand.
00:29:16
Um, Cam reddish This season showed some Kevin not like there's some heartless camera adage.
00:29:26
Um, he plays defensive.
00:29:29
He does, but at the same time, like there's some heart stuff missing there like there's a lot that was missing from Tree Young.
00:29:40
There's a lot missing from a coach Could be so good.
00:29:44
But then still can't take you over the top like sympathy for the Hawks.
00:29:49
I don't see where he would help them.
00:29:51
Now.
00:29:52
I think that he could.
00:29:53
He could have probably gotten some of the same effect from Phoenix.

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