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And together we are Connor Nowhere.
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Yeah, buddy, We saw it.
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We can And I just had a half an hour meeting, talking business.
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And when we gotta talk business, it always just screws with my head calling.
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How you doing today, buddy? Good man.
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How you doing? I'm doing really well, man.
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I'm doing really well here on this Tuesday, starting to get over the whole, you know, the Bacal in Denver? Yeah, E no, man.
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It takes a couple of days every time after they have a bad loss, It takes a couple of days to shake it off.
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Yeah, it's just something I don't want to shake off, you know, like, it's just something that I just want to just, like move on with my life.
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But, you know, I don't want to harp on it a little bit, but I put a block out today, man, and I was talking about, you know, how did what we saw on Sunday is not gonna be common for the New England Patriots? Right? right, I read that.
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Yeah, I agree with you too.
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I hope not.
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At least No.
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But they could get to start this weekend, man, when San Francisco 40 Niners coming to town.
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And I don't know if you know this corner, but there's a certain person on the San Francisco 40 Niners who, uh, has a little bit of a ventured interest in the New England Patriots.
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Former back up quarterback was pushed out of town by Tom Brady, you know? Yes.
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Brian Hoyer, Brian Hoyer.
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The absolute interest in this No man, obviously, we're talking about our man Jimmy, the G Garoppolo coming back, man.
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And with England Patriots set off to face against those San Francisco 40 Niners and weak seven, the matchup presents an opportunity for Patriots head coach Bill Belichick to rekindle his old flame with the 40 Niners cornerback Jimmy Garoppolo, who Bill Belichick himself coached for three seasons in New England as the backup for the great Johnny Foxboro.
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Um, that was that was kind of that was that was a big I should have done.
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Yeah, I'll take dude, here's what Jimmy Garoppolo said.
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He said, Jimmy is a good quarterback, right? he took him to the NFC championship game last year, won the NFC championship.
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So I think he's certainly been ableto have a high level of achievement and accomplishment out there.
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Uh, they signed him to a contract that showed they have confidence in him as their quarterback.
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I don't think any of that is all that surprising.
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I think we all know Jimmy as a good player.
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I kind of expected.
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I don't know. I don't know what I was expecting from Bill Belichick.
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I think I was like part of me was like, I hope that he's like hanging on to Jimmy Garoppolo like an ex lover.
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That's what everyone here and on Twitter will make you think is that he's like, in love with the guy.
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Yeah, but he doesn't seem to be going.
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He doesn't seem to be going that route, which I guess is okay.
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Um, you know, as Patriots fans, you gotta It's so much has happened since Jimmy Garoppolo.
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Oh my God.
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It seems like that was like, a decade ago.
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So Jimmy Garoppolo got traded October 30th, 2000 and 17.
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It's now October 20th, 2020 since he has been Let me tell you what's happened.
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Okay? This list, I have it written down.
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You mind if I just find it when a second? Because I'm preparing a blawg for I think I'm gonna put it out on Thursday.
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But I was just looking at it.
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I'm gonna pull this up for you because it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever written.
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I've ever wrote my life.
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Okay, A lot of transpired since the Patriots gave up what many believe to be their future franchise quarterback.
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ESPN reported a rift between the New England Patriots top brass claiming that Tom Brady had gone to Patriots owner Robert Kraft and forced Bill Belichick to trade away.
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Garoppolo keep Brady.
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The Patriots went to two Super Bowls.
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11 of them, Rob Gronkowski retired.
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The Patriots got entangled in another alleged cheating scandal.
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Garoppolo and the 40 Niners went to the Super Bowl.
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Kyle Shanahan blue. Another Super Bowl.
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Tom Brady signed with the Tampa Bay bunk Buccaneers.
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Gronkowski unretired was traded to Tampa Bay.
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The Patriots signed Cam Newton.
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He caught Covic.
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The sky fell in New England last week after they lost to the Broncos, and that brings us to now.
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This week, Jimmy Garoppolo returns to Gillette Stadium.
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That's a lot toe happen, e I.
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I also left at the point that Jimmy Garoppolo blew his knee out and missed almost an entire season his first year away from New England.
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And Rob Gronkowski became like a w w e superstar, right? Oh, my God.
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Gronkowski became the 24 7 champion.
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That's gonna make this boy even better, man.
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Yeah, it seems like that was ages ago.
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Uh, it does.
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It seems like forever plus a day, to be honest with you.
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By the way, anybody who is interested in reading any of my blog's you can find them on tak mo hole just like the old tech mobile techno whole dot com is where you can find it on, um, dude like So here's the thing I want to talk about.
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There's always like, any time there's a trade, it's always who won the trade.
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Who lost the traded A workout when you break down Jimmy Garoppolo and you know him leaving the Patriots with the Patriots winning a Super Bowl going to to I mean trading Jimmy Garoppolo.
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If he was still on the team in 2017.
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He would have nothing to do.
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He would have been able to help them win the Super Bowl against the Eagles.
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Like unless he learned how to be a cornerback or a pass rusher.
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Um, you know, sometime in between the 1st and 2nd have he was sat on the bench and taking losses.
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Tom Brady set Super Bowl records and took the loss on the field.
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And in that game, I probably would have thrown him out there a corner.
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But e I mean, if Malcolm Butler can't play, I don't think any crop look, that's true.
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Could you imagine the headlines like just really, really imagine them.
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Okay, like Malcolm Butler bench for Super Bowl.
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Jimmy Garoppolo takes spot.
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Hey, couldn't have been as bad as great a MOOC, right? Oh, no, he couldn't have.
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But look, So that's my thing, though, right? So he goes to San Francisco, he gets a big contract.
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He goes to a Super Bowl, Okay, loses it, but he's playing on a pretty competitive team.
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The Patriots win a Super Bowl, and then they signed Cam Newton this year, and it seems like for at least the next 3 to 5 years, the quarterback position could be locked up in New England.
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When you sit back and evaluated, forget where the draft pick went and who they got.
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I think Duke Dawson was a part of that, you know, Forget all that.
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Both the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo walked away.
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His winners after this traded they're not right? Absolutely.
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And just outside of that trade, I mean, we knew Jimmy drop.
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Jimmy Garoppolo was gonna walk away at the end of the year pretty much anyways because all they could really do was franchise tag him or try and tie him up to another long term contract.
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But you knew one.
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I don't think he was going to sign it because he wanted to go somewhere and start right away.
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And two, they couldn't pay Garoppolo and Brady and then have one of them sit on the bench.
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So he was probably gonna leave anyways, So Belichick said, Hey, let me get whatever I could get and he got a second round pick for him, and they kind of just rented them for the second half of the season.
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And then they paid them all the big money after that.
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So I think the Patriots kind of one the trade.
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You could say that, but I think they both won.
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I mean, look, the Patriots could have got rid of Tom Brady after 17 went with Garoppolo.
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That's true.
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Um, you know, and in Garoppolo, you know, Garoppolo poor Garoppolo.
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Right? Because he doesn't really do much in the NFC chip.
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They blow out, blow out the Green Bay Packers, the NFC championship game.
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I mean, statistics were minimal there.
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Ryan Tannehill.
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Like, uh, yeah, monster who ran? Who's out for this week, by the way? We'll get more than that.
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Yeah, or fortunately, Yeah, I know for us.
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Yeah. Fortunately, patriots.
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Yeah.
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I don't wish injury on people, but when it happens, not gonna lap when I go.
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Yeah, that's actually that's actually a benefit of the Patriots.
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Yeah, There's a lot of people who hate us right now.
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That's just like we're getting the you *******s.
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Kind of.
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I honestly like Boston. I think he's unbelievable.
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Yeah, I just like football and I like, full on.
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I just hope that they're all good. Yeah.
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So, dude, So, like, I just think that for me when I look at it. I think they both won.
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I think that they're both in good positions.
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I think that good things have happened to both.
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They've both been to since Jimmy Garoppolo has been traded.
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Either Belichick, Brady or Garoppolo has been to three Super Bowls.
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When you think about it, Braiding and and Belichick went 2017 2018 Garoppolo goes in 2019.
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You know, I mean, look, Tom Brady plays for the Buccaneers.
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Maybe it's gonna go 2017 2018 2019 2020.
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I, I hope not.
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If anybody from the NFC goes, I hope it's Garoppolo if it's from the A F C.
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Obviously, I hope it's Cam Newton, but I think that both one group was making his money.
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The Patriots won a Super Bowl a t end of the day.
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It's just like his Sony Michelle.
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A draft bust, right? Well, you know what? No.
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They won the Super Bowl on his back in 2018.
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He did his job.
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What more can you ask him? Yeah, Yeah, it was, uh, mutually beneficial for both teams.
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When it happens, the Patriots needed to get some sort of compensation for him.
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The 40 Niners were terrible at that point.
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You remember just only three years ago they were like the laughing stock of the league.
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They used to be like the Jets only a short time ago.
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And then he came in and I think won five games in a row at the end of 2017 Forum.
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And then they had what's now probably their franchise quarterback.
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So everyone kind of made the right decision.
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At that point, I feel like Well, yeah, and I mean, there was people who are like, Oh, Jimmy Garoppolo is never gonna lose the game, right? I remember that to everyone.
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Thought he was like, the next Joe Montana.
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Yeah, but so, yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's cool.
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I think it would have been, you know, nicer if it would have been Garoppolo versus Brady, because I know they say there's no hard feelings, but there would have been, I don't think Garoppolo looks of Bill Belichick, and so, like, I need to prove to you that you made the wrong decision.
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I think there's an understanding there, like, Dude, I know you wanted me.
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Robert Kraft wanted the guy who brought him toe, You know, 15 Super Bowls for him at that time.
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It wasn't six yet. Like, E.
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Don't think there could be hard feelings from Jimmy Garoppolo side of things.
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And at the end of the day, Belichick traded him for a second rounder.
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He could have got a first round from Cleveland, but he didn't want him.
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And it was because he didn't want to face him in the division.
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He didn't want to ruin his career.
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I mean, that story came out Groppe are Belichick wanted Garoppolo to go somewhere where he would be fostered properly and have a chance of a successful career.
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Right? Right? Yeah.
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And he and that's what he did.
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I mean, if he went to Cleveland, who knows what would have happened? Obviously, they have Mayfield now, and they're off to a pretty good start.
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Although they got destroyed on Sunday by the Steelers.
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So what do you What do you think of them? Do you think they're gonna be the real deal with this year after seeing Sunday's game? The Cleveland Browns? Yeah.
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I think the Cleveland Browns are reflective of what the record is.
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It's foreign to going.
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I think that they're a good team.
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But I think going in, I think the the Steelers were superior team, right? That that was my whole thing.
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And I said it on SportsCastr news.
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My boy Joe will not accept how good the Pittsburgh Steelers are.
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They're very good this year.
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Yeah, they are.
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And I said that they're gonna beat Cleveland.
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They're probably gonna beat them handedly because they are the superior team.
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That's not a knock on Cleveland as an organization.
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But when you look at just I mean, first of all, the Pittsburgh Steelers know how to draft receivers, and the combinations of Claypool and Schuster is just phenomenal.
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And Deontay Johnson's pretty good when he's out there.
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He's just injured.
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Yeah, and apparently Ben Roethlisberger could still play quarterback.
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You can.
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So far from what we've seen this year, he still can.
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James Connor can run the football.
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Yeah, as long as he stays healthy, that's usually the big thing for him, right? Uh, you know, I love Claypool. He's Canadian.
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So it's, you know, we don't even British Columbia, Canada.
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We don't get many stars.
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The Canadian stars up in the air down in NFL.
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So you don't You don't get too often.
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No.
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So we're very proud of him.
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He's our voice.
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Um, if you go on his Twitter thing on his Twitter page, his background is a big Canadian flags.
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So love that he's still rapping wrapping us up here in the north.
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And I know that these people are gonna argue losing there's, You know, there's places in the States that are more north and Toronto were more than just Toronto in Canada.
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So you, um but yeah, man.
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So I just thought they were the superior team.
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To be honest with, you thought your superior team and yeah, I think you're right.
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You know, they got Baker Mayfield.
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So they made out there.
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And if Baker can, you know, turn into what I think everybody was hoping what? They should be Fine.
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And Jimmy Garoppolo is competitive out in San Francisco, right? So it kind of all worked out for everybody.
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And in that sense, although we'll see, I think Jimmy G is gonna have, like, a longer and more prosperous career than Baker Mayfield.
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But it's going to take some time to tell.
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Jimmy looked rough coming off his injury got benched there two weeks ago against the Miami Dolphins.
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But then he looked really good against the Rams last week.
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I was just gonna say that they had a big bounce back performance last week against the Rams because two weeks ago they looked abysmal.
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I watched a lot of that game vs Miami.
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It was just a disaster for the 49 years all around.
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But I watched the game again Sunday night, and they look great against the Ramstein.
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That I think, is actually pretty good.
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Let me read you the stats.
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So against Miami, he went seven for 17 for 71 yards, zero interceptions or zero touchdowns, two interceptions.
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That's terrible.
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Yeah, and he got benched.
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You had a good bounce back against the Rams, all right.
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They won 24 to 16 when 23 for 33 to 68.
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3 touchdowns, zero interceptions, Right? Yeah, that's a great game.
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So he's getting into form just in time to play the Patriots, who are still kind of trying to find an identity, Um, and still trying to find an offensive identity.
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Yep.
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For most of the for most of the game.
00:19:58
Sorry.
00:19:59
Somebody decides to go directly over where someone goes directly over where I'm filming.
00:20:06
It starts tapping on the floor.
00:20:08
Um, but no, it's ah, they were up 20 to 10.
00:20:15
The chiefs looked look good.
00:20:17
Josh Allen looked a little bit like Josh Allen, I think.
00:20:21
Yeah.
00:20:23
I mean, it was a tough game, though, for anybody was in the rain, right? Anytime you're getting in the rain, that's gonna be a tough, tough game Thio for a quarterback.
00:20:33
I mean, even Patrick Mahomes.
00:20:34
I'm just pulling up the stats here.
00:20:35
Patrick Mahomes stats.
00:20:36
Weren't the Patrick Mahomes like Like he went 21 for 26 for 225 yards? Two touchdowns? You know, rushed the ball for 36 yards.
00:20:46
Uh, when you look at Josh Allen, he went 14 for 2722 yards.
00:20:52
Half of the 122 yards came on like their their touchdown drive at the end of the game.
00:20:58
Right.
00:20:59
Um, look, the Buffalo Bills gave us an opportunity to fight for the division now, right? That's exactly what I was thinking.
00:21:06
Seeing that they came out and lost two in a row is which is exactly what we needed to have happened.
00:21:11
And I was gonna ask.
00:21:12
You think these next two games for the Patriots is the most important stretch of the season? 40 Niners, followed by the bills? Yeah.
00:21:19
Yeah.
00:21:20
These air to must wins.
00:21:21
Uh uh.
00:21:22
We cannot be, too.
00:21:23
And four, the Patriots could not be two and four going to the face buffalo.
00:21:27
They have a They have to be three and three if buffalo can take a lost somewhere along the line to be even better.
00:21:34
But they have to be three and three.
00:21:37
And they could.
00:21:38
They could if they be, if they can win the next two games, they overtake Buffalo.
00:21:42
Right? You have the tiebreaker, right? And if they could win the next two, then they get the cakewalk of the New York Jets the week after.
00:21:49
So this is two games where they have to come out and win.
00:21:52
I think there'll be enormous towards getting, uh, towards number one of the division.
00:21:57
Yeah, it would be enormous.
00:21:59
And there's another team we gotta worry about now to a is back.
00:22:07
Right? And I know that we plan on talking about, but it's kind of tying in perfect to another second.
00:22:12
Yeah, the Patriots in the third Patriots in the third place team in a F C east.
00:22:18
Um, to attack a viola is gonna be the starting quarterback this weekend.
00:22:22
I'm gonna be honest with you.
00:22:23
I don't know why you don't understand it.
00:22:27
I don't get it.
00:22:28
I don't know why you don't ride Fitzpatrick until it doesn't work.
00:22:32
Yeah, um what if things go bad for Miami? Yeah, like that could really kind of screw up the flow.
00:22:43
You know, flow.
00:22:44
We get to, uh I mean, Look, I know Dolphin fans are excited.
00:22:48
Man.
00:22:49
There's ah, there's a guy up here who, uh, on here called Tedy Fins Talk, and he talks about the dolphins.
00:22:55
I mean, he was literally go check it out when you guys were done.
00:22:57
T defense talk his livestream today on SportsCastr, He was literally screaming like, high pitched squealing.
00:23:02
That, too, is starting on Saturday.
00:23:05
Why don't they like Fitzpatrick? Fitzpatrick led them to a three and three start.
00:23:10
Which what did they win three or four games all season last year? I mean, Fitzpatrick's look pretty good.
00:23:14
He threw three TDs and no picks.
00:23:16
The other night he lit up the 40 Niners and now after this there, they're gonna bench him.
00:23:23
I think that the coaching staff is fine with it.
00:23:25
I think they're looking at it now.
00:23:26
Going. Hey, weren't second place.
00:23:28
We actually have a chance.
00:23:29
It's time to play the franchise.
00:23:31
Okay, That's what I believe it is.
00:23:33
He's had you know what, six weeks now? To learn what it's like to be in the NFL.
00:23:39
The hip looks good.
00:23:40
He got a taste of action last week.
00:23:42
He looked comfortable and because of that, and because we got a chance, we're going to go into a because there's nothing that will give that team any more of a confidence boost.
00:23:52
Then, if two it can come in, rip off a stretch of winds and make it into the playoffs.
00:23:56
The other problem is when you I think Miami's looking at it with Buffalo dropping the second game, and I think that was the piece that fell when Buffalo dropped the game to Kansas City and the Patriots being two and three and then starting to see vulnerability and those sort of top two teams and thinking we have to have an actual chance e think that's when they made a decision.
00:24:15
We have to go with to see what this kid has.
00:24:18
Because if we go through a stretch of Fitzpatrick and not fits, Magic and the interception start very much like we saw against the Patriots, where he threw a bunch of interceptions.
00:24:30
This division right now, if a team rattles off two losses, you could be right out of it, right? Do you think this has turned into a three way race all of a sudden? Yeah, I think it absolutely is with Buffalo leading.
00:24:42
Well, what? The Patriots trailing very far behind.
00:24:47
Um, but we've got to stretch of games.
00:24:49
Now.
00:24:50
The thing is, we right now, the Patriots on the tiebreaker with Miami.
00:24:53
If the Patriots could beat San Francisco, then beat the Bills, then they have the tiebreaker with with the Bills as well.
00:25:00
Now, of course, everybody's gotta play.
00:25:01
20 is now.
00:25:02
The Bills have a touch. Tough stretch.
00:25:04
They just played Kansas City.
00:25:06
Yeah, um, in a tough game.
00:25:09
Then we get in the week seven.
00:25:12
I'm just trying to find the bill schedule here.
00:25:15
Okay, This is an easy stretch.
00:25:17
They got the New York Jets.
00:25:18
They're second game of the year.
00:25:22
And then after the Jets, I believe that that's when it gets a little bit more difficult for them.
00:25:26
So they play the Jets, then they play New England.
00:25:32
Then they have Seattle.
00:25:34
That's your That's tough.
00:25:36
That's very tough.
00:25:38
Then they have the Chargers with Justin Herbert.
00:25:40
Yep.
00:25:41
That's not a gimme.
00:25:43
Then they have San Francisco.
00:25:45
That's gonna be tough then Pittsburgh.
00:25:47
Very tough, then. Denver.
00:25:51
Yeah, that's not gonna be a cakewalk, then.
00:25:54
New England? Yep.
00:25:56
In New England and then they finish off the season against Miami.
00:26:01
So this next game against the Jets is really their reprieve for the season.
00:26:05
Right after that, they they have a lot of games coming up.
00:26:09
Well, and here is gonna be my argument.
00:26:11
Okay? And this is where I haven't been willing to say that they're for real.
00:26:17
So they beat, um, beat Vegas.
00:26:23
They beat hold on.
00:26:24
They beat New York the jet.
00:26:27
Then they beat Miami the week after Miami lost to the Patriots, so Miami was still figured themselves out.
00:26:32
Then they beat the Raiders, which was one of their Oh, no.
00:26:35
Sorry.
00:26:36
Then they beat the Rams that they kind of blue, you know what I mean? And the game that they kind of blew.
00:26:42
They're up 28 to 3, and they almost Atlanta falcons it and won that game Really, really on a really bad pass interference call.
00:26:50
Or, as you like to call it, questionable.
00:26:52
Yeah, questionable.
00:26:54
But that puts into three, you know? Then they beat Vegas.
00:26:58
Okay, that's when they kind of impressed me.
00:27:00
Then they lost Tennessee 42 to 16 and then they lost to Kansas City.
00:27:04
So they've really been test four times and went to and to really, they could have been one and three because they would have lost the Rams in their test games.
00:27:14
So I as much as people talk about this, is Buffaloes division to go through.
00:27:18
I think this division of wide Open and both the Patriots and the Miami Dolphins have an opportunity to win this division.
00:27:24
Exactly why I believe that Miami decided to put two in right.
00:27:29
I don't I think we're going to see who's you know, Rio and who's more of a pretender down this next few weeks of a stretch here.
00:27:36
It's gonna be interesting come Week 10 week 11 to see where the Dolphins are to see if they end up fading and digressing and going backwards to see how for real the Bills are when they have week after week after week, where they have to play really tough competition.
00:27:50
And we have to see if what the Patriots they're going to do because they need to bounce back, man, because we're looking for the past couple of weeks, they have not looked good.
00:27:58
No, they have not now, don't forget as well.
00:28:01
Um, the Dolphins got a tough stretch coming up to. Yes.
00:28:07
So they have the Rams in L.
00:28:10
A thing.
00:28:12
They have Arizona the next week.
00:28:14
The Hard won, then the Chargers.
00:28:17
Yeah. Then Denver.
00:28:19
Then they have the Jets.
00:28:21
Then this is gonna be an interesting one.
00:28:22
Then they have Cincinnati to, uh versus borough.
00:28:25
Okay, that's gonna be then They have Kansas City, right? I mean, there, December schedule.
00:28:31
So they have Cincinnati, which could be a winnable game for them.
00:28:34
Then they have Kansas City, New England, Las Vegas, Buffalo, eso.
00:28:40
Even though Miami's in it, they got a big, long stretch.
00:28:42
The Patriots don't forget.
00:28:44
Have already gotten rid of the Chiefs.
00:28:46
They've already gotten rid of Seattle.
00:28:49
The gotten rid of Vegas.
00:28:51
They still have Baltimore, Baltimore in San Francisco and Arizona.
00:28:54
The three big test.
00:28:56
And I guess the L A Rams as well.
00:28:57
Those are therefore big test.
00:28:59
I know that to play Houston, I'm not scared of the Houston Texans right now, either.
00:29:04
Um, so, yeah, this division is wide open, man, and I think this next two games the next three games for the Patriots gonna be huge beating San Francisco beating Buffalo beating the Jets and then hoping that Buffalo in Miami sort of suc***b to the tougher schedule that they're gonna have to face because of the Patriots schedule after the Jets.
00:29:27
I think it gets tough again, because then they have Sorry, they have still of Arizona.
00:29:31
So, like everybody, that whole division has a tough, like, has a tough schedule.
00:29:37
I'm just gonna pull up New England's.
00:29:38
I know we get the Patriots get a bit of reprieve, but it's not much of one.
00:29:43
Don't forget, this is the division winners.
00:29:45
So you gotta play all the division winners.
00:29:47
And this is kind of where New England scheduled.
00:29:50
Kind of got screwed up.
00:29:51
So let's look at it here.
00:29:52
So we have They just lost the Denver.
00:29:55
Yeah.
00:29:56
Then they have the 40 Niners in Buffalo. Then they got the Jets.
00:29:58
Then they have Baltimore.
00:30:00
Yeah.
00:30:01
Did they have Houston? You know, they don't scare me.
00:30:04
It's still gonna be a tough game.
00:30:06
Then they have Arizona on their in law, then there in Los Angeles for two weeks, where they planned on staying.
00:30:14
But now I don't know if they're going to allow them to do that with the whole covert thing.
00:30:20
I mean, how do you travel from the east coast of the West Coast on the same day, right? Yeah, that's gonna be way too difficult with a three hour like a six hour flight in a three hour time difference.
00:30:31
And then then the big one is the last three weeks of the season.
00:30:35
In the last two weeks of December, December 20th, you got Miami, December 28th, you got Buffalo.
00:30:40
You finish against the Jets.
00:30:41
Was Miami Buffalo games are probably gonna be the two games that could determine this division.
00:30:48
I completely agree.
00:30:49
I completely agree.
00:30:50
I think when it comes down to it, it's going to be the end of the December schedule for all three of these teams to kind of figure out where everyone lies.
00:30:56
And if the Patriots been rattle off the last three victories of the year, I think they're gonna be perfectly fine.
00:31:02
And you know what I mean? With the schedules that all the teams gotta play? I gotta agree with MK Chicken.
00:31:06
Blog's here in the blogged are in the blawg.
00:31:09
In the in the chat he wrote, the dolphins win the Division seven and nine.
00:31:15
Now it's a joke.
00:31:17
It's a joke.
00:31:21
What are they and what of the reality of the Dallas division? All of a sudden? 79? Well, but look at the look at the teams they gotta play.
00:31:32
You're playing the team that went to the Super Bowl.
00:31:34
You're looking at the NFC champions of last year.
00:31:36
You're looking at Arizona, who just embarrassed the Dallas Cowboys on national television.
00:31:42
They wanna play Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens.
00:31:46
You know, the reigning.
00:31:47
We haven't fared well against them, either.
00:31:50
No, and we've never fared well against the Ravens at all.
00:31:53
Right? So I mean, winning the biggest game for the Patriots are the two against Buffalo, the to against Miami in the two against.
00:32:00
And I told you this before the season started.
00:32:02
They have to sweep the division, right? They have to basically go six.
00:32:05
And, oh, you have been saying that all along.
00:32:07
And now it it seems like it's even more prominent than it has been that they really might have to go six or so in order to win the division.
00:32:15
I think it could come down to tie breakers, and if they go six.
00:32:18
And so we know they have every tiebreaker because the tiebreaker starts his head to head.
00:32:21
They'll have that.
00:32:22
The division of the next one.
00:32:24
There's a whole bunch of different tiebreakers.
00:32:25
If you could sweep the division, which I know is a lot easier said than done, that's what the Patriots would have to do.
00:32:31
And you know what? If they can sweep the division, I think they're easily gonna win the A F c.
00:32:35
East because I think they're gonna win at least four other games.
00:32:38
They've already won one be in Vegas.
00:32:41
So if they could win three others and sweep the division, they're 10 and six, and we've handed out two losses to each other.
00:32:47
Each other team in the division each.
00:32:49
Okay, so I want you to put your most realistic non homeless hat on for a second, okay? Yeah.
00:32:55
I'm gonna name you the non A F C East teams.
00:32:58
I gotta play and you tell me where they get four wins.
00:33:01
Okay.
00:33:02
San Francisco, Baltimore, Houston, Arizona, Los Angeles, Los Angeles.
00:33:10
I think they're gonna beat the charges.
00:33:13
I think they're gonna beat the Rams.
00:33:16
I'm gonna say they're gonna lose the Baltimore.
00:33:20
Um, I'm gonna eso they gotta beat.
00:33:23
Either they can lose toe either Houston, Arizona or San Francisco.
00:33:29
They gotta win two of those three.
00:33:31
I think they can win two of those three.
00:33:33
I think that's gonna be the difference.
00:33:35
Are they gonna win two of the three or they're gonna win one of those three and they're gonna go on three Is gonna be a couple games right in there.
00:33:40
That is gonna make all the difference in the world.
00:33:42
I love that you said that because we've been saying that the entire season we listed at the before the season started, we listed the game.
00:33:48
Seattle, Kansas City, San Francisco, Baltimore, Houston, Arizona, the Rams.
00:33:57
Those were the seven games we listed.
00:33:59
And we said that the Patriots are gonna be successful.
00:34:02
They gotta win four or seven.
00:34:03
They gotta win.
00:34:04
The Siri's right.
00:34:06
They're going to so far so far.
00:34:10
The good thing is that they always they almost always play well after a loss.
00:34:14
So we have that going for us going into the 40 Niners game.
00:34:18
Yes, they dio, but there are back to back losses, but they're actually getting a week of practice.
00:34:24
And I'm not trying to be the Boston sports media, which I feel so bad for all you people in Boston that have to be subjected to that on a daily basis.
00:34:31
Come watch us instead.
00:34:33
Yeah.
00:34:34
What did you say? Save some brain cells. Save some. Great.
00:34:36
So, yeah.
00:34:37
So what? We're fled your mass saying that it's done right.
00:34:39
Like Belichick was washed up. Yes.
00:34:42
Yes.
00:34:43
I actually saw some absurd statement that said Belichick wants to lose this game to make Jimmy Garoppolo look good.
00:34:50
Who said that? I I don't know.
00:34:53
It was out there, though. I saw it on Twitter today.
00:34:55
There's just, you know, there's idiots.
00:34:58
There's absolutely and, you know, SportsCastr never responded to me, but I'm gonna put it out again, live on their platform, and I'm gonna put it on our podcast if there ever comes a time.
00:35:11
That corner and I sound as stupid is 98.5.
00:35:15
Sports up.
00:35:16
That's what it's called, right? If there's ever a time that we sound, it's stupid as these guys on that radio station.
00:35:23
Please.
00:35:24
We put in a lot of work for you.
00:35:26
Just let's go pull the plug pulled the plug plug.
00:35:30
Something's not right.
00:35:32
I've never seen two guys who just want to pretend to be shock jocks more than them.
00:35:38
I mean, like, they're Howard Stern's the I think it's Fletcher.
00:35:41
He's a Howard Stern wannabe in absolute Howard Stern wannabe.
00:35:45
He's an idiot.
00:35:47
Um, you know, and the thing is, is they'll take no accountability toe what they said, right, You know, and I get that again.
00:35:54
We're two talking heads, talking about two talking heads.
00:35:57
But, you know, I in 2017 I tweeted out that the Patriots need to cuts to find Gilmore.
00:36:03
That's probably the 20th time I've told you that right on.
00:36:07
And I tell you that because I take ownership of stupidity, if the Patriots win the Super Bowl, are these guys going to come out and say, You know, we want to apologize for all the idiotic stances we took about a team that was dealing with practice it or with covert issues that practice twice all this kind of different stuff? Are they going to take accountability for that? No, they're not gonna pretend like it never happened.
00:36:36
They're gonna come out and talk about how bad they're gonna be the next year they'd come out and talk about how bad 2021 is gonna be.
00:36:45
You know, people talk a lot about the Boston Globe, but as you know, I've I've got a subscription.
00:36:49
I gave them a chance.
00:36:51
Yeah, they're writers aren't as bad as their tweets.
00:36:55
You know, they're really not.
00:36:56
They actually write some good stuff in the globe.
00:36:58
I think they get more of a bad rap just because, uh, Dan Shaughnessy has been with him for so long, and he's put out so much nonsense that when you think of the globe, you think of him.
00:37:07
But they have other people.
00:37:08
They have a lot of other people that work for him.
00:37:13
Yeah, Shaughnessy's Shaughnessy's different.
00:37:17
Yeah, especially after I read the dynasty and it brought everything back to my memory.
00:37:22
I'm like, Oh, my goodness, I'm like this started in like 1996.
00:37:26
He started talking about how bad they are.
00:37:29
Yeah, that's that's brutal.
00:37:31
It's There's, I think he's got about eight takes.
00:37:34
Yeah, that you just go.
00:37:36
Yes, it was, like, over and over again.
00:37:38
And they kept citing him and like the guy did such a phenomenal job.
00:37:42
And like the history of everything, he would be like On November 14th of 2000 and nine, the Boston door brand this story.
00:37:48
It's like he had everything.
00:37:51
Yeah, it's a great book.
00:37:53
You guys gotta read a Jeff Benedict the dynasty.
00:37:55
If you haven't read it yet, whether you're patriots it or not, you have to watch.
00:37:59
You have to read this book if you're a football fan at all. Phenomenal.
00:38:02
Bookman.
00:38:03
So, speaking of crazy takes, we got to talk about what we're gonna get into earlier with the new trade.
00:38:09
Hold on before we before we get into that, Should we tackle this Dallas game a little bit? Yeah.
00:38:18
Yeah, that was That was something.
00:38:20
Does that make you nervous for the cardinals? Or do you think Dallas is that much of a dumpster fire right now? Here's the thing.
00:38:28
And he Dalton got the crap end of the stick last night between balls and dropping footballs.
00:38:37
Hey, actually looked really good.
00:38:40
Yeah, my man Zeke Elliot, horrible last night on SportsCastr News got into a fight because I said he's the best running back Thio ever come out of Ohio State.
00:38:55
Okay, Yeah, I think I don't.
00:38:57
I need you to understand that guys like Eddie George where it Ohio State and held records for years.
00:39:05
And I came out and said he was the best running back and I had faith in him.
00:39:09
I picked the Dallas Cowboys toe win by at least 10.
00:39:14
, I picked them.
00:39:16
I picked them to win, too.
00:39:17
I completely had them winning.
00:39:18
I was in a pick him pool and I would have won the pool for the week if Dallas one last night.
00:39:24
Zeke Elliot, Who's getting paid? $100 billion? Yes.
00:39:33
He rushed the ball 12 times for 49 yards and lost two fumbles.
00:39:38
Two fumbles? Yeah.
00:39:39
Bad, bad fumbles.
00:39:41
Bad, bad fumbles.
00:39:46
I wish that they had drops for every player here.
00:39:50
Yeah, Michael Gallup in the end zone.
00:39:53
On third down, I would say Marty Cooper was probably the only guy that I gave up.
00:39:58
Any sort of passed to.
00:39:59
Last name? Yeah.
00:40:01
Yeah, he had a decent game.
00:40:03
That was just I mean, that was the most pitiful display.
00:40:08
I was so frustrated after the Denver game on Sunday against the Patriots watching that game last night though I sat there and went Dallas fans feel worse than me right now.
00:40:20
Oh, they have Teoh.
00:40:21
You have to.
00:40:22
Yeah, they have Thio because it wasn't Andy Dalton.
00:40:25
If Andy Dalton comes out in sucks, then you're kind of like Okay, All right.
00:40:32
You know, it is what it is that is out.
00:40:35
And this is what we have to deal with.
00:40:37
Kind of like we were after Kansas City.
00:40:39
We weren't mad after the Kansas City game.
00:40:41
You know, we came out here.
00:40:43
We came on here and said, Brian Hoyer disappointed.
00:40:47
Jared's didn't play like crap.
00:40:49
I mean, we need Cam Newton back, right? I think we're both upset after Sunday because we're like, ****, Cam Newton was back.
00:40:55
And that's the ****.
00:40:56
Poor display that we put out there, right? Exactly.
00:41:01
Yeah, it was hard toe watchman.
00:41:03
I turned it off halfway through the fourth quarter, and I'm like, What am I staying up to watch this game for? At this point, I'm like, this is just gonna be junk yards.
00:41:10
Um, Cowboys defense is just pitiful to which they have been all season, but they had a couple of one play.
00:41:16
It was a one play drive, 80 yard touchdown.
00:41:18
They let Kyler Murray run all over them.
00:41:23
Kenyan Drake had 100 like 60 something yards.
00:41:26
And before this, he was getting 2.
00:41:27
5 yards of carry.
00:41:29
They were pitiful all around Kenyan Drake.
00:41:33
After getting paid last year.
00:41:34
He was having an awful, awful, awful, awful style.
00:41:38
Cowboys made them look good.
00:41:41
Yeah, anyone who needs to be revitalized.
00:41:43
I think the key here is just to play the Cowboys defense or just the Cowboys in general.
00:41:49
Cowboys in general.
00:41:50
Cowboys in general.
00:41:52
Um, yeah.
00:41:53
Very disappointed.
00:41:54
The Dallas Cowboys last night.
00:41:55
I had an awful week.
00:41:56
A pick.
00:41:57
I'm good for you.
00:41:58
That you picked all those games? Dude, I wouldn't like 500.
00:42:00
I think I went under 500 for the week.
00:42:02
Did you? Yeah, one of them.
00:42:03
One of them, I think, was the Falcons.
00:42:05
Like nobody took the Falcons and I had the Falcons.
00:42:08
It's It's impossible.
00:42:10
Just so you know.
00:42:12
So go under 500 pick him like you couldn't even try to go under 500.
00:42:17
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you how bad I did.
00:42:20
You could flip a coin just every game I could.
00:42:23
I couldn't see what happened.
00:42:27
I had Minnesota.
00:42:29
Yeah, I had the Panthers.
00:42:32
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00:42:34
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00:42:36
I had Washington.
00:42:38
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I went 1112 one Wanted to, too.
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And 22 and 32 and 43 and 43 and five, four and 55 and 56 and 56 and 67 It's I went seven per seven this weekend.
00:43:05
Hey, 50 50 seven.
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I got. I went 11.
00:43:09
I got 11 points a week before I got.
00:43:11
I got three games wrong.
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Yeah, before games I got right.
00:43:15
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00:43:18
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00:43:22
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00:43:26
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00:43:27
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00:43:30
I took every obvious win out there.
00:43:35
Yeah, I had the Packers and that woman.
00:43:37
I thought the Packers were actually gonna win that.
00:43:39
I thought Tampa Bay might be a little bit overrated, but my goodness, they blew the doors off them on both sides of the ball Well, and I put out a tweet on Monday and said Connor Carney had a awful Sunday.
00:43:50
We had to watch a Brady to Gronkowski touchdown bets have, like three amazing defensive plays in a row, and the Patriots lost and the Patriots lost.
00:44:02
Like just what A Sunday? What a son! Bad Boston Sports Day.
00:44:06
We don't have too many of those that we have been extremely fortunate.
00:44:09
So we just gotta eat it.
00:44:11
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Thio to wrap this up.
00:47:18
So what do you got for me? Yes, sir.
00:47:20
So you and I already talked about it.
00:47:22
Anybody who was anywhere near Twitter today knows that the Patriots have a new trade rumors swirling around, and it is wide receiver John Ross.
00:47:34
What do you think? It's amazing that when you're wide receiving corps is struggling that the most mediocre players who aren't on your team suddenly seem like the biggest catch that you could possibly find.
00:47:52
Like, um, dude, we had.
00:47:58
He's never been anything special.
00:48:00
No, he's Philip Thor Set.
00:48:02
He was drafted ninth overall in 2017.
00:48:06
Since 2000, he's never played a full season.
00:48:09
He had eight good games last year, which put him on pace for 1000 yards.
00:48:15
He's been a healthy scratch for three of Cincinnati's games this year.
00:48:19
He's fast But he's a white.
00:48:22
He's 1/4 receiver.
00:48:23
He's a wide receiver.
00:48:24
Wide receiver for the Patriots.
00:48:27
Have a wide receiver.
00:48:28
Foreign Dimier bird.
00:48:30
The problem is, the Patriots got him pointing three.
00:48:32
Honestly, if you're thinking about giving up draft capital for John Ross, you might as well give Jacoby Meyers an opportunity to beam or involved in this offense.
00:48:45
Here's the thing.
00:48:46
The Patriots and this is a block.
00:48:47
It's gonna be my block that's coming out tomorrow.
00:48:50
The Patriots are in a very peculiar position, although I think I talked about in today's block there in a precarious position because they're kind of caught right in between being legitimate competitors and a rebuild.
00:49:02
They're not quite Super Bowl contenders, but they're not quite ready for rebuild.
00:49:07
And I think that next year is gonna be here that built out, especially to keep Cam Newton, Bill Belichick and go all in to give up draft capital for John Ross.
00:49:17
When you have Jacoby Meyers there, when it's not really okay, he's got speed.
00:49:21
We had that in Philip Door said.
00:49:23
How upset where Patriot fans and Philip Door set over the last three years.
00:49:27
Oh my goodness, I know, and that's all we'd be getting.
00:49:31
I would like for me number one, As I said to you over and over again, I think they need to go after a tight end.
00:49:36
Whether it's David to Joko, Jack Doyle, something of that nature.
00:49:40
If you're gonna bring it a receiver, try to bring in a legit number three.
00:49:44
What I call the, you know, third tier receivers.
00:49:46
What I'd like to see is the pages bring in a second tier tight end and the third tier receiver.
00:49:50
I think it helps the offense lot like it.
00:49:52
Kenny Stills at a Houston. Yep.
00:49:55
You know, that could be a good move for the Patriots.
00:49:58
Uh, people want John Ross.
00:50:00
Key is available, and I know that I'm going to go on the SportsCastr check.
00:50:04
I'm gonna go on Twitter, and people are going to try to convince me why John Ross is a good pick when he's not right, right? And I think it's funny because Patriots fans do this all the time.
00:50:15
You randomly find someone.
00:50:17
Last year was Mohammed Sunu, and I think that all of us really think Mohammad Sanu was gonna be that good.
00:50:22
Well, we're all just looking for somebody to come help and save the offense.
00:50:25
So when we got Mohammad Sanu, we all through our hands in the air and went, That's I think that's just like John Ross to point out Mohammad Sanu to point out.
00:50:34
Yeah, I mean, if you could get John Ross for seventh round draft pick, then I say do it and see what happens.
00:50:39
But I'm not giving up 1/5 that that's too much.
00:50:42
That's too much for someone who you're not even going to significantly impact your offense.
00:50:46
And, yeah, Mohammed Sunu turned into a disaster.
00:50:50
You know, Belichick tried. It didn't work.
00:50:52
And the Onley guys who've been able to step on this team and really be contributors have been top tier receivers.
00:50:59
Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown.
00:51:02
Um, now they didn't last long enough, but they got the offense.
00:51:05
I mean, Antonio Brown had an amazing debut for the Patriots, and they didn't have a full week of practice.
00:51:10
But because he's a top tier guy, you could put him in simple positions.
00:51:14
He could run his routes.
00:51:15
He could make the catch is things could be great, right? So those because those air top shelf to your one people you're gonna bring in a guy like John Ross is you're not gonna see the impact, right? So you think at this point they might as well just get your Kobe Maya's mawr involved over John Ross? Yeah, if that's what you're looking for.
00:51:31
Now if you're gonna make a move for David a joke or Jack Doyle from the from the tight ends, those air Two guys, that could be long term guys for you at least 56 years.
00:51:40
Yeah.
00:51:41
Then I make I'd give up some capital for them And then again, if you could get it tight end like that, which I call a second tier tight.
00:51:46
And it's not in Austin, Hooper, Hunter, Henry or Gronkowski or anything of that nature.
00:51:50
But two guys that can contribute lunch pail kind of workers if you could bring them in and then get a third tier Kenny Stills that you could move into the wide receiver three position and bounce bird back to the fore.
00:52:01
I think now you got something cooking with the Patriots offense, right? And I was gonna ask you in the tight end position at this point have you seen enough of? Ryan is Oh, I know, aside and keen, we don't know what's up with them, but are you ready to just push him aside and throw the other two out there and see what happens? No, because the Patriots aren't in a position yet.
00:52:21
I mean, I want to see it happen, but I'm not ready just to say, Hey, go because the Patriots still in a position to compete, right? I don't like experimenting when you're in a position to compete.
00:52:33
I don't wanna.
00:52:34
If Dalton Keen is not starting and not dressing because the Patriots don't think he's good enough, I don't want them to experiment with him.
00:52:39
What I'd like to see is Devon Asea, see, get more involved in the game calling.
00:52:43
You know, I'd want Cam Newton, who likes using tight ends toe look in his direction because C Asik is that could actually be V very.
00:52:53
Um could be very similar to the tight end that that he had in Carolina, a guy whose name just slipped my mind.
00:53:01
And he's a freaking star in the league Greg Olsen.
00:53:04
But on my fantasy team, for like eight years, I think it could be very similar in style.
00:53:09
That's what I'd like to see.
00:53:11
I don't want unless you think Dalton Kings ready.
00:53:13
I don't want to see an experiment with Dalton.
00:53:15
Keen Ryan is always Ryan is.
00:53:17
Oh, I do wanna throw in.
00:53:19
No, this is from the chat on SportsCastr rhinos saying that you know, the grass is always greener. Absolutely.
00:53:27
Um, he said in a joke, Who or nothing.
00:53:30
But I think that Jack Doyle could be thrown in there and make chicken.
00:53:34
Blog's made an absolute, um, fantastic point, he said.
00:53:39
The Patriots to get get a John Ross and free agency and Taylor Gabriel and I absolutely agree they could get the exact same player in free agency.
00:53:46
It's gonna cost him a little bit of money.
00:53:48
And he says that Cam Newton is giving Aussie Aussie the Brady treatment. I agree.
00:53:52
I think that, you know Cam Newton is not looking in his direction.
00:53:55
I believe in that game on Sunday when he took a launch downfield, having the chicken pointed out to me on Monday when he launched the ball downfield to Bird, which I actually thought it was a good play, came just under threw the ball.
00:54:07
Demir Bird had to step on the defender.
00:54:08
Honestly, Odyssey was wide open 20 yards down the field. Yeah.
00:54:12
Yeah.
00:54:13
So that kind of stuff, right? So, yeah, he is.
00:54:16
He's not like the only I think the only time he's target him was when he was in trouble and threw that interception when he screamed at him to go.
00:54:22
So I don't know why he's not throwing RCSC.
00:54:25
Maybe he doesn't trust him.
00:54:26
Um, but I mean you can do is not really throwing anybody right now.
00:54:30
So, you know, Julian Edelman had as many receptions as he did pass completions on Sunday at two apiece.
00:54:38
Yeah, and that's an issue when you're number one.
00:54:40
Receiver is throwing as many past says he's catching.
00:54:42
Something is not right.
00:54:44
So them they gotta totally revamp that.
00:54:48
Yeah.
00:54:49
So I got a block coming out tomorrow giving my full thoughts on John Ross.
00:54:52
But it's basically what I just said today, but you guys should read it Anyways, I take my whole dot com.
00:54:55
Now there's another trade, man. No, there. Really.
00:54:58
But but I think who was it? Was it? Even though there was some tweets out there? Yeah, I saw a couple of tweets out there about a potential, uh, a potential guy coming to New England who has been a pretty popular guy out in Houston.
00:55:12
Bill O Brien.
00:55:14
No, J J.
00:55:16
Watt.
00:55:17
Man.
00:55:18
I don't know if anyone saw this on Twitter.
00:55:19
I'm by no means saying it's gonna happen.
00:55:20
But you did see the tweets right there.
00:55:22
A few tweets out there that said Make the call for the Patriots to go get J. J. Watt.
00:55:27
I think you would be excited.
00:55:29
I have put out there that if the Houston Texans told Bill Belichick the only way we're giving you J.
00:55:37
J Watt is we want Ray routes.
00:55:39
Testicles e will send them on rush delivery.
00:55:46
It's a pure later tomorrow way.
00:55:49
Appreciate that, too.
00:55:50
Yeah, that's how much I love J.
00:55:53
J.
00:55:54
Watt. Now, let's Rhino just said it.
00:55:56
I'm not I'm hard.
00:55:57
Yeah, I'm hard to I'm hard to.
00:56:00
I am hard to um no.
00:56:03
Look, I am, Dude, I love J.
00:56:05
J. Watt and we know it's not gonna happen.
00:56:07
I think it was just like Evan Lazar who just threw out.
00:56:09
Hey, if I'm the Patriots I'm thinking, What the hell I'm calling and saying.
00:56:12
You know what? What could we get for J.
00:56:15
J. Watt? J.
00:56:16
J.
00:56:17
What's not coming in New England? But I just love thinking about the prospect of J.
00:56:20
J. Watt coming to New England.
00:56:22
I'm I love the Watt brothers, but I love JJ the most.
00:56:26
Um, I love the way he plays.
00:56:28
I love who he is is a person.
00:56:30
Dude, I got a little J J Watt statue in my you know, man Cave.
00:56:34
Absolutely.
00:56:35
Love.
00:56:36
The guy actually meant to bring the toys.
00:56:37
When you brought it up, I was gonna put it in, But I forgot.
00:56:41
I love J.
00:56:42
J.
00:56:43
Watt and and, you know, um, just to think that there's a, like, the slightest the possibilities, um, that the host of tag is going to What's he hosts a tag or super tag or ultimate bag? I don't even know he hosted a game show.
00:56:58
And it's like the ultimate tag.
00:57:00
It's, like, easy. Yeah.
00:57:03
Um, yeah, I don't know, but honest to God, it z he'd be a great locker room presence.
00:57:13
A great presence on the field, man. He'd be great in the community.
00:57:16
They got a good dude out there, and that's why I don't think we're going to get him.
00:57:21
Summer says.
00:57:22
Its ultimate tax.
00:57:23
Let me chicken in the SportsCastr chat and everybody who's listening on the podcast right now.
00:57:27
If you if you want to get on the check, I'm watching live 9 p.m.
00:57:30
Eastern time on Tuesdays and Thursdays on and once caught, and I figure some stuff up will be around a little bit.
00:57:36
Maura's well, but MK Chicken says this is the second time Ray mentioned cutting off his balls on the stream.
00:57:42
Um, and it won't be with man scape there, too safe for that? Yeah, yeah, I won't be good because I got the anti, uh, the the anti pulled and cut technology.
00:57:52
Who else did I say I cut my balls off for my chicken? If you could remember And Rhino says, uh, he's married.
00:57:58
He's not the majority owner of them anymore.
00:58:00
Uh, e I would have to run it by my partner upstairs, make sure she's OK.
00:58:05
I think I own the left one.
00:58:06
She owns the right one.
00:58:07
That's the Maybe I could give her a little bit of a buyout and convince her that you know J.
00:58:12
J.
00:58:13
Watt coming to the Patriots is worth both testicles leaving It could be worth it, right? It could be.
00:58:17
I mean, it's it's just me who loses the orgasm.
00:58:20
No, Uh, not that, but yeah, man.
00:58:23
So ultimate tag is to show that he has never seen ultimate tag.
00:58:26
I've never seen it.
00:58:27
Now it's like American gladiators.
00:58:30
Like meats.
00:58:33
Yeah, it's crazy.
00:58:35
It's like a real sport.
00:58:36
It's like a sport.
00:58:37
I'll have to look into it, huh? Yeah, and it's crazy. It's good.
00:58:42
Dude, how excited would you be if J.
00:58:45
J.
00:58:46
Watt came? I would be I would be absolutely Palm Man.
00:58:48
I think he would be phenomenal.
00:58:49
He already is phenomenal, but I just I won't let myself get that kind of hopes up.
00:58:54
I don't think the Texans would ever deal him.
00:58:57
Dude, I don't think we can talk me cutting my balls off like I don't think there's anything else we could talk about that would talk that way.
00:59:04
Got 50 seconds left.
00:59:06
So maybe it's time we say goodbye to people.
00:59:07
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Ray route.
00:59:09
That man is Connor Carney.
00:59:11
Thank you for tuning in here.
00:59:12
Thio, dp and Commentary.
00:59:14
We will be back on Thursday at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
00:59:18
Until then, take care.
00:59:20
See you.
00:59:25
Oh, yeah.
00:59:39
Mhm.
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Bill Belichick still fawning over Jimmy Garoppolo even after dumping Tom Brady

With the New England Patriots set to face off against the San Francisco 49ers in Week 7, the matchup presents an opportunity for Pats head coach Bill Belichick to rekindle an old flame with 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, who Belichick himself coached for three seasons in New England as a backup to the great Tom […]

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DPN Commentary w/ Ray Rauth & Conor Carney Podcast

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and we're back.
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Yes, sir.
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Yes, ma'am, We are back.
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Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Ray Route.
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That man is Connor Carney.
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And together we are Connor Nowhere.
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DPM Commentary.
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Yeah, buddy, We saw it.
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We can And I just had a half an hour meeting, talking business.
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And when we gotta talk business, it always just screws with my head calling.
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How you doing today, buddy? Good man.
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How you doing? I'm doing really well, man.
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I'm doing really well here on this Tuesday, starting to get over the whole, you know, the Bacal in Denver? Yeah, E no, man.
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It takes a couple of days every time after they have a bad loss, It takes a couple of days to shake it off.
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Yeah, it's just something I don't want to shake off, you know, like, it's just something that I just want to just, like move on with my life.
00:01:11
But, you know, I don't want to harp on it a little bit, but I put a block out today, man, and I was talking about, you know, how did what we saw on Sunday is not gonna be common for the New England Patriots? Right? right, I read that.
00:01:26
Yeah, I agree with you too.
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I hope not.
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At least No.
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But they could get to start this weekend, man, when San Francisco 40 Niners coming to town.
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And I don't know if you know this corner, but there's a certain person on the San Francisco 40 Niners who, uh, has a little bit of a ventured interest in the New England Patriots.
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Former back up quarterback was pushed out of town by Tom Brady, you know? Yes.
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Brian Hoyer, Brian Hoyer.
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The absolute interest in this No man, obviously, we're talking about our man Jimmy, the G Garoppolo coming back, man.
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And with England Patriots set off to face against those San Francisco 40 Niners and weak seven, the matchup presents an opportunity for Patriots head coach Bill Belichick to rekindle his old flame with the 40 Niners cornerback Jimmy Garoppolo, who Bill Belichick himself coached for three seasons in New England as the backup for the great Johnny Foxboro.
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Um, that was that was kind of that was that was a big I should have done.
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Yeah, I'll take dude, here's what Jimmy Garoppolo said.
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He said, Jimmy is a good quarterback, right? he took him to the NFC championship game last year, won the NFC championship.
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So I think he's certainly been ableto have a high level of achievement and accomplishment out there.
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Uh, they signed him to a contract that showed they have confidence in him as their quarterback.
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I don't think any of that is all that surprising.
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I think we all know Jimmy as a good player.
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I kind of expected.
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I don't know. I don't know what I was expecting from Bill Belichick.
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I think I was like part of me was like, I hope that he's like hanging on to Jimmy Garoppolo like an ex lover.
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That's what everyone here and on Twitter will make you think is that he's like, in love with the guy.
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Yeah, but he doesn't seem to be going.
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He doesn't seem to be going that route, which I guess is okay.
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Um, you know, as Patriots fans, you gotta It's so much has happened since Jimmy Garoppolo.
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Oh my God.
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It seems like that was like, a decade ago.
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So Jimmy Garoppolo got traded October 30th, 2000 and 17.
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It's now October 20th, 2020 since he has been Let me tell you what's happened.
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Okay? This list, I have it written down.
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You mind if I just find it when a second? Because I'm preparing a blawg for I think I'm gonna put it out on Thursday.
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But I was just looking at it.
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I'm gonna pull this up for you because it's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever written.
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I've ever wrote my life.
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Okay, A lot of transpired since the Patriots gave up what many believe to be their future franchise quarterback.
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ESPN reported a rift between the New England Patriots top brass claiming that Tom Brady had gone to Patriots owner Robert Kraft and forced Bill Belichick to trade away.
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Garoppolo keep Brady.
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The Patriots went to two Super Bowls.
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11 of them, Rob Gronkowski retired.
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The Patriots got entangled in another alleged cheating scandal.
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Garoppolo and the 40 Niners went to the Super Bowl.
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Kyle Shanahan blue. Another Super Bowl.
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Tom Brady signed with the Tampa Bay bunk Buccaneers.
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Gronkowski unretired was traded to Tampa Bay.
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The Patriots signed Cam Newton.
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He caught Covic.
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The sky fell in New England last week after they lost to the Broncos, and that brings us to now.
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This week, Jimmy Garoppolo returns to Gillette Stadium.
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That's a lot toe happen, e I.
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I also left at the point that Jimmy Garoppolo blew his knee out and missed almost an entire season his first year away from New England.
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And Rob Gronkowski became like a w w e superstar, right? Oh, my God.
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Gronkowski became the 24 7 champion.
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That's gonna make this boy even better, man.
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Yeah, it seems like that was ages ago.
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Uh, it does.
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It seems like forever plus a day, to be honest with you.
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By the way, anybody who is interested in reading any of my blog's you can find them on tak mo hole just like the old tech mobile techno whole dot com is where you can find it on, um, dude like So here's the thing I want to talk about.
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There's always like, any time there's a trade, it's always who won the trade.
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Who lost the traded A workout when you break down Jimmy Garoppolo and you know him leaving the Patriots with the Patriots winning a Super Bowl going to to I mean trading Jimmy Garoppolo.
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If he was still on the team in 2017.
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He would have nothing to do.
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He would have been able to help them win the Super Bowl against the Eagles.
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Like unless he learned how to be a cornerback or a pass rusher.
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Um, you know, sometime in between the 1st and 2nd have he was sat on the bench and taking losses.
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Tom Brady set Super Bowl records and took the loss on the field.
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And in that game, I probably would have thrown him out there a corner.
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But e I mean, if Malcolm Butler can't play, I don't think any crop look, that's true.
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Could you imagine the headlines like just really, really imagine them.
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Okay, like Malcolm Butler bench for Super Bowl.
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Jimmy Garoppolo takes spot.
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Hey, couldn't have been as bad as great a MOOC, right? Oh, no, he couldn't have.
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But look, So that's my thing, though, right? So he goes to San Francisco, he gets a big contract.
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He goes to a Super Bowl, Okay, loses it, but he's playing on a pretty competitive team.
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The Patriots win a Super Bowl, and then they signed Cam Newton this year, and it seems like for at least the next 3 to 5 years, the quarterback position could be locked up in New England.
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When you sit back and evaluated, forget where the draft pick went and who they got.
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I think Duke Dawson was a part of that, you know, Forget all that.
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Both the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo walked away.
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His winners after this traded they're not right? Absolutely.
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And just outside of that trade, I mean, we knew Jimmy drop.
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Jimmy Garoppolo was gonna walk away at the end of the year pretty much anyways because all they could really do was franchise tag him or try and tie him up to another long term contract.
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But you knew one.
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I don't think he was going to sign it because he wanted to go somewhere and start right away.
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And two, they couldn't pay Garoppolo and Brady and then have one of them sit on the bench.
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So he was probably gonna leave anyways, So Belichick said, Hey, let me get whatever I could get and he got a second round pick for him, and they kind of just rented them for the second half of the season.
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And then they paid them all the big money after that.
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So I think the Patriots kind of one the trade.
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You could say that, but I think they both won.
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I mean, look, the Patriots could have got rid of Tom Brady after 17 went with Garoppolo.
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That's true.
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Um, you know, and in Garoppolo, you know, Garoppolo poor Garoppolo.
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Right? Because he doesn't really do much in the NFC chip.
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They blow out, blow out the Green Bay Packers, the NFC championship game.
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I mean, statistics were minimal there.
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Ryan Tannehill.
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Like, uh, yeah, monster who ran? Who's out for this week, by the way? We'll get more than that.
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Yeah, or fortunately, Yeah, I know for us.
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Yeah. Fortunately, patriots.
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Yeah.
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I don't wish injury on people, but when it happens, not gonna lap when I go.
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Yeah, that's actually that's actually a benefit of the Patriots.
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Yeah, There's a lot of people who hate us right now.
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That's just like we're getting the you *******s.
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Kind of.
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I honestly like Boston. I think he's unbelievable.
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Yeah, I just like football and I like, full on.
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I just hope that they're all good. Yeah.
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So, dude, So, like, I just think that for me when I look at it. I think they both won.
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I think that they're both in good positions.
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I think that good things have happened to both.
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They've both been to since Jimmy Garoppolo has been traded.
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Either Belichick, Brady or Garoppolo has been to three Super Bowls.
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When you think about it, Braiding and and Belichick went 2017 2018 Garoppolo goes in 2019.
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You know, I mean, look, Tom Brady plays for the Buccaneers.
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Maybe it's gonna go 2017 2018 2019 2020.
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I, I hope not.
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If anybody from the NFC goes, I hope it's Garoppolo if it's from the A F C.
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Obviously, I hope it's Cam Newton, but I think that both one group was making his money.
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The Patriots won a Super Bowl a t end of the day.
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It's just like his Sony Michelle.
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A draft bust, right? Well, you know what? No.
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They won the Super Bowl on his back in 2018.
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He did his job.
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What more can you ask him? Yeah, Yeah, it was, uh, mutually beneficial for both teams.
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When it happens, the Patriots needed to get some sort of compensation for him.
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The 40 Niners were terrible at that point.
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You remember just only three years ago they were like the laughing stock of the league.
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They used to be like the Jets only a short time ago.
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And then he came in and I think won five games in a row at the end of 2017 Forum.
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And then they had what's now probably their franchise quarterback.
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So everyone kind of made the right decision.
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At that point, I feel like Well, yeah, and I mean, there was people who are like, Oh, Jimmy Garoppolo is never gonna lose the game, right? I remember that to everyone.
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Thought he was like, the next Joe Montana.
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Yeah, but so, yeah, I mean, I mean, I think it's cool.
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I think it would have been, you know, nicer if it would have been Garoppolo versus Brady, because I know they say there's no hard feelings, but there would have been, I don't think Garoppolo looks of Bill Belichick, and so, like, I need to prove to you that you made the wrong decision.
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I think there's an understanding there, like, Dude, I know you wanted me.
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Robert Kraft wanted the guy who brought him toe, You know, 15 Super Bowls for him at that time.
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It wasn't six yet. Like, E.
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Don't think there could be hard feelings from Jimmy Garoppolo side of things.
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And at the end of the day, Belichick traded him for a second rounder.
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He could have got a first round from Cleveland, but he didn't want him.
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And it was because he didn't want to face him in the division.
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He didn't want to ruin his career.
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I mean, that story came out Groppe are Belichick wanted Garoppolo to go somewhere where he would be fostered properly and have a chance of a successful career.
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Right? Right? Yeah.
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And he and that's what he did.
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I mean, if he went to Cleveland, who knows what would have happened? Obviously, they have Mayfield now, and they're off to a pretty good start.
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Although they got destroyed on Sunday by the Steelers.
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So what do you What do you think of them? Do you think they're gonna be the real deal with this year after seeing Sunday's game? The Cleveland Browns? Yeah.
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I think the Cleveland Browns are reflective of what the record is.
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It's foreign to going.
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I think that they're a good team.
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But I think going in, I think the the Steelers were superior team, right? That that was my whole thing.
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And I said it on SportsCastr news.
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My boy Joe will not accept how good the Pittsburgh Steelers are.
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They're very good this year.
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Yeah, they are.
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And I said that they're gonna beat Cleveland.
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They're probably gonna beat them handedly because they are the superior team.
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That's not a knock on Cleveland as an organization.
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But when you look at just I mean, first of all, the Pittsburgh Steelers know how to draft receivers, and the combinations of Claypool and Schuster is just phenomenal.
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And Deontay Johnson's pretty good when he's out there.
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He's just injured.
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Yeah, and apparently Ben Roethlisberger could still play quarterback.
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You can.
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So far from what we've seen this year, he still can.
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James Connor can run the football.
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Yeah, as long as he stays healthy, that's usually the big thing for him, right? Uh, you know, I love Claypool. He's Canadian.
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So it's, you know, we don't even British Columbia, Canada.
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We don't get many stars.
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The Canadian stars up in the air down in NFL.
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So you don't You don't get too often.
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No.
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So we're very proud of him.
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He's our voice.
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Um, if you go on his Twitter thing on his Twitter page, his background is a big Canadian flags.
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So love that he's still rapping wrapping us up here in the north.
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And I know that these people are gonna argue losing there's, You know, there's places in the States that are more north and Toronto were more than just Toronto in Canada.
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So you, um but yeah, man.
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So I just thought they were the superior team.
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To be honest with, you thought your superior team and yeah, I think you're right.
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You know, they got Baker Mayfield.
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So they made out there.
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And if Baker can, you know, turn into what I think everybody was hoping what? They should be Fine.
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And Jimmy Garoppolo is competitive out in San Francisco, right? So it kind of all worked out for everybody.
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And in that sense, although we'll see, I think Jimmy G is gonna have, like, a longer and more prosperous career than Baker Mayfield.
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But it's going to take some time to tell.
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Jimmy looked rough coming off his injury got benched there two weeks ago against the Miami Dolphins.
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But then he looked really good against the Rams last week.
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I was just gonna say that they had a big bounce back performance last week against the Rams because two weeks ago they looked abysmal.
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I watched a lot of that game vs Miami.
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It was just a disaster for the 49 years all around.
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But I watched the game again Sunday night, and they look great against the Ramstein.
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That I think, is actually pretty good.
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Let me read you the stats.
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So against Miami, he went seven for 17 for 71 yards, zero interceptions or zero touchdowns, two interceptions.
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That's terrible.
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Yeah, and he got benched.
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You had a good bounce back against the Rams, all right.
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They won 24 to 16 when 23 for 33 to 68.
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3 touchdowns, zero interceptions, Right? Yeah, that's a great game.
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So he's getting into form just in time to play the Patriots, who are still kind of trying to find an identity, Um, and still trying to find an offensive identity.
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What do you think, man? We saw.
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Obviously, I didn't see too much of it because I was still working.
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But chiefs beat the bills by what was it ended up being nine? Yeah, that's about what I thought it would have been.
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Um, they loathe chiefs had a 22 10 lead.
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Yeah, I saw that.
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Um, but no, it's ah, they were up 20 to 10.
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The chiefs looked look good.
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Josh Allen looked a little bit like Josh Allen, I think.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it was a tough game, though, for anybody was in the rain, right? Anytime you're getting in the rain, that's gonna be a tough, tough game Thio for a quarterback.
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I mean, even Patrick Mahomes.
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I'm just pulling up the stats here.
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Patrick Mahomes stats.
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Weren't the Patrick Mahomes like Like he went 21 for 26 for 225 yards? Two touchdowns? You know, rushed the ball for 36 yards.
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Uh, when you look at Josh Allen, he went 14 for 2722 yards.
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Half of the 122 yards came on like their their touchdown drive at the end of the game.
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Right.
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Um, look, the Buffalo Bills gave us an opportunity to fight for the division now, right? That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Seeing that they came out and lost two in a row is which is exactly what we needed to have happened.
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And I was gonna ask.
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You think these next two games for the Patriots is the most important stretch of the season? 40 Niners, followed by the bills? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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These air to must wins.
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Uh uh.
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We cannot be, too.
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And four, the Patriots could not be two and four going to the face buffalo.
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They have a They have to be three and three if buffalo can take a lost somewhere along the line to be even better.
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But they have to be three and three.
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And they could.
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They could if they be, if they can win the next two games, they overtake Buffalo.
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Right? You have the tiebreaker, right? And if they could win the next two, then they get the cakewalk of the New York Jets the week after.
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So this is two games where they have to come out and win.
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I think there'll be enormous towards getting, uh, towards number one of the division.
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Yeah, it would be enormous.
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And there's another team we gotta worry about now to a is back.
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Right? And I know that we plan on talking about, but it's kind of tying in perfect to another second.
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Yeah, the Patriots in the third Patriots in the third place team in a F C east.
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Um, to attack a viola is gonna be the starting quarterback this weekend.
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I'm gonna be honest with you.
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I don't know why you don't understand it.
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I don't get it.
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I don't know why you don't ride Fitzpatrick until it doesn't work.
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Yeah, um what if things go bad for Miami? Yeah, like that could really kind of screw up the flow.
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You know, flow.
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We get to, uh I mean, Look, I know Dolphin fans are excited.
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Man.
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There's ah, there's a guy up here who, uh, on here called Tedy Fins Talk, and he talks about the dolphins.
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I mean, he was literally go check it out when you guys were done.
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T defense talk his livestream today on SportsCastr, He was literally screaming like, high pitched squealing.
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That, too, is starting on Saturday.
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Why don't they like Fitzpatrick? Fitzpatrick led them to a three and three start.
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Which what did they win three or four games all season last year? I mean, Fitzpatrick's look pretty good.
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He threw three TDs and no picks.
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The other night he lit up the 40 Niners and now after this there, they're gonna bench him.
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I think that the coaching staff is fine with it.
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I think they're looking at it now.
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Going. Hey, weren't second place.
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We actually have a chance.
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It's time to play the franchise.
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Okay, That's what I believe it is.
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He's had you know what, six weeks now? To learn what it's like to be in the NFL.
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The hip looks good.
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He got a taste of action last week.
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He looked comfortable and because of that, and because we got a chance, we're going to go into a because there's nothing that will give that team any more of a confidence boost.
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Then, if two it can come in, rip off a stretch of winds and make it into the playoffs.
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The other problem is when you I think Miami's looking at it with Buffalo dropping the second game, and I think that was the piece that fell when Buffalo dropped the game to Kansas City and the Patriots being two and three and then starting to see vulnerability and those sort of top two teams and thinking we have to have an actual chance e think that's when they made a decision.
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We have to go with to see what this kid has.
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Because if we go through a stretch of Fitzpatrick and not fits, Magic and the interception start very much like we saw against the Patriots, where he threw a bunch of interceptions.
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This division right now, if a team rattles off two losses, you could be right out of it, right? Do you think this has turned into a three way race all of a sudden? Yeah, I think it absolutely is with Buffalo leading.
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Well, what? The Patriots trailing very far behind.
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Um, but we've got to stretch of games.
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Now.
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The thing is, we right now, the Patriots on the tiebreaker with Miami.
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If the Patriots could beat San Francisco, then beat the Bills, then they have the tiebreaker with with the Bills as well.
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Now, of course, everybody's gotta play.
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20 is now.
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The Bills have a touch. Tough stretch.
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They just played Kansas City.
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Yeah, um, in a tough game.
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Then we get in the week seven.
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I'm just trying to find the bill schedule here.
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Okay, This is an easy stretch.
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They got the New York Jets.
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They're second game of the year.
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And then after the Jets, I believe that that's when it gets a little bit more difficult for them.
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So they play the Jets, then they play New England.
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Then they have Seattle.
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That's your That's tough.
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That's very tough.
00:25:38
Then they have the Chargers with Justin Herbert.
00:25:40
Yep.
00:25:41
That's not a gimme.
00:25:43
Then they have San Francisco.
00:25:45
That's gonna be tough then Pittsburgh.
00:25:47
Very tough, then. Denver.
00:25:51
Yeah, that's not gonna be a cakewalk, then.
00:25:54
New England? Yep.
00:25:56
In New England and then they finish off the season against Miami.
00:26:01
So this next game against the Jets is really their reprieve for the season.
00:26:05
Right after that, they they have a lot of games coming up.
00:26:09
Well, and here is gonna be my argument.
00:26:11
Okay? And this is where I haven't been willing to say that they're for real.
00:26:17
So they beat, um, beat Vegas.
00:26:23
They beat hold on.
00:26:24
They beat New York the jet.
00:26:27
Then they beat Miami the week after Miami lost to the Patriots, so Miami was still figured themselves out.
00:26:32
Then they beat the Raiders, which was one of their Oh, no.
00:26:35
Sorry.
00:26:36
Then they beat the Rams that they kind of blue, you know what I mean? And the game that they kind of blew.
00:26:42
They're up 28 to 3, and they almost Atlanta falcons it and won that game Really, really on a really bad pass interference call.
00:26:50
Or, as you like to call it, questionable.
00:26:52
Yeah, questionable.
00:26:54
But that puts into three, you know? Then they beat Vegas.
00:26:58
Okay, that's when they kind of impressed me.
00:27:00
Then they lost Tennessee 42 to 16 and then they lost to Kansas City.
00:27:04
So they've really been test four times and went to and to really, they could have been one and three because they would have lost the Rams in their test games.
00:27:14
So I as much as people talk about this, is Buffaloes division to go through.
00:27:18
I think this division of wide Open and both the Patriots and the Miami Dolphins have an opportunity to win this division.
00:27:24
Exactly why I believe that Miami decided to put two in right.
00:27:29
I don't I think we're going to see who's you know, Rio and who's more of a pretender down this next few weeks of a stretch here.
00:27:36
It's gonna be interesting come Week 10 week 11 to see where the Dolphins are to see if they end up fading and digressing and going backwards to see how for real the Bills are when they have week after week after week, where they have to play really tough competition.
00:27:50
And we have to see if what the Patriots they're going to do because they need to bounce back, man, because we're looking for the past couple of weeks, they have not looked good.
00:27:58
No, they have not now, don't forget as well.
00:28:01
Um, the Dolphins got a tough stretch coming up to. Yes.
00:28:07
So they have the Rams in L.
00:28:10
A thing.
00:28:12
They have Arizona the next week.
00:28:14
The Hard won, then the Chargers.
00:28:17
Yeah. Then Denver.
00:28:19
Then they have the Jets.
00:28:21
Then this is gonna be an interesting one.
00:28:22
Then they have Cincinnati to, uh versus borough.
00:28:25
Okay, that's gonna be then They have Kansas City, right? I mean, there, December schedule.
00:28:31
So they have Cincinnati, which could be a winnable game for them.
00:28:34
Then they have Kansas City, New England, Las Vegas, Buffalo, eso.
00:28:40
Even though Miami's in it, they got a big, long stretch.
00:28:42
The Patriots don't forget.
00:28:44
Have already gotten rid of the Chiefs.
00:28:46
They've already gotten rid of Seattle.
00:28:49
The gotten rid of Vegas.
00:28:51
They still have Baltimore, Baltimore in San Francisco and Arizona.
00:28:54
The three big test.
00:28:56
And I guess the L A Rams as well.
00:28:57
Those are therefore big test.
00:28:59
I know that to play Houston, I'm not scared of the Houston Texans right now, either.
00:29:04
Um, so, yeah, this division is wide open, man, and I think this next two games the next three games for the Patriots gonna be huge beating San Francisco beating Buffalo beating the Jets and then hoping that Buffalo in Miami sort of suc***b to the tougher schedule that they're gonna have to face because of the Patriots schedule after the Jets.
00:29:27
I think it gets tough again, because then they have Sorry, they have still of Arizona.
00:29:31
So, like everybody, that whole division has a tough, like, has a tough schedule.
00:29:37
I'm just gonna pull up New England's.
00:29:38
I know we get the Patriots get a bit of reprieve, but it's not much of one.
00:29:43
Don't forget, this is the division winners.
00:29:45
So you gotta play all the division winners.
00:29:47
And this is kind of where New England scheduled.
00:29:50
Kind of got screwed up.
00:29:51
So let's look at it here.
00:29:52
So we have They just lost the Denver.
00:29:55
Yeah.
00:29:56
Then they have the 40 Niners in Buffalo. Then they got the Jets.
00:29:58
Then they have Baltimore.
00:30:00
Yeah.
00:30:01
Did they have Houston? You know, they don't scare me.
00:30:04
It's still gonna be a tough game.
00:30:06
Then they have Arizona on their in law, then there in Los Angeles for two weeks, where they planned on staying.
00:30:14
But now I don't know if they're going to allow them to do that with the whole covert thing.
00:30:20
I mean, how do you travel from the east coast of the West Coast on the same day, right? Yeah, that's gonna be way too difficult with a three hour like a six hour flight in a three hour time difference.
00:30:31
And then then the big one is the last three weeks of the season.
00:30:35
In the last two weeks of December, December 20th, you got Miami, December 28th, you got Buffalo.
00:30:40
You finish against the Jets.
00:30:41
Was Miami Buffalo games are probably gonna be the two games that could determine this division.
00:30:48
I completely agree.
00:30:49
I completely agree.
00:30:50
I think when it comes down to it, it's going to be the end of the December schedule for all three of these teams to kind of figure out where everyone lies.
00:30:56
And if the Patriots been rattle off the last three victories of the year, I think they're gonna be perfectly fine.
00:31:02
And you know what I mean? With the schedules that all the teams gotta play? I gotta agree with MK Chicken.
00:31:06
Blog's here in the blogged are in the blawg.
00:31:09
In the in the chat he wrote, the dolphins win the Division seven and nine.
00:31:15
Now it's a joke.
00:31:17
It's a joke.
00:31:21
What are they and what of the reality of the Dallas division? All of a sudden? 79? Well, but look at the look at the teams they gotta play.
00:31:32
You're playing the team that went to the Super Bowl.
00:31:34
You're looking at the NFC champions of last year.
00:31:36
You're looking at Arizona, who just embarrassed the Dallas Cowboys on national television.
00:31:42
They wanna play Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens.
00:31:46
You know, the reigning.
00:31:47
We haven't fared well against them, either.
00:31:50
No, and we've never fared well against the Ravens at all.
00:31:53
Right? So I mean, winning the biggest game for the Patriots are the two against Buffalo, the to against Miami in the two against.
00:32:00
And I told you this before the season started.
00:32:02
They have to sweep the division, right? They have to basically go six.
00:32:05
And, oh, you have been saying that all along.
00:32:07
And now it it seems like it's even more prominent than it has been that they really might have to go six or so in order to win the division.
00:32:15
I think it could come down to tie breakers, and if they go six.
00:32:18
And so we know they have every tiebreaker because the tiebreaker starts his head to head.
00:32:21
They'll have that.
00:32:22
The division of the next one.
00:32:24
There's a whole bunch of different tiebreakers.
00:32:25
If you could sweep the division, which I know is a lot easier said than done, that's what the Patriots would have to do.
00:32:31
And you know what? If they can sweep the division, I think they're easily gonna win the A F c.
00:32:35
East because I think they're gonna win at least four other games.
00:32:38
They've already won one be in Vegas.
00:32:41
So if they could win three others and sweep the division, they're 10 and six, and we've handed out two losses to each other.
00:32:47
Each other team in the division each.
00:32:49
Okay, so I want you to put your most realistic non homeless hat on for a second, okay? Yeah.
00:32:55
I'm gonna name you the non A F C East teams.
00:32:58
I gotta play and you tell me where they get four wins.
00:33:01
Okay.
00:33:02
San Francisco, Baltimore, Houston, Arizona, Los Angeles, Los Angeles.
00:33:10
I think they're gonna beat the charges.
00:33:13
I think they're gonna beat the Rams.
00:33:16
I'm gonna say they're gonna lose the Baltimore.
00:33:20
Um, I'm gonna eso they gotta beat.
00:33:23
Either they can lose toe either Houston, Arizona or San Francisco.
00:33:29
They gotta win two of those three.
00:33:31
I think they can win two of those three.
00:33:33
I think that's gonna be the difference.
00:33:35
Are they gonna win two of the three or they're gonna win one of those three and they're gonna go on three Is gonna be a couple games right in there.
00:33:40
That is gonna make all the difference in the world.
00:33:42
I love that you said that because we've been saying that the entire season we listed at the before the season started, we listed the game.
00:33:48
Seattle, Kansas City, San Francisco, Baltimore, Houston, Arizona, the Rams.
00:33:57
Those were the seven games we listed.
00:33:59
And we said that the Patriots are gonna be successful.
00:34:02
They gotta win four or seven.
00:34:03
They gotta win.
00:34:04
The Siri's right.
00:34:06
They're going to so far so far.
00:34:10
The good thing is that they always they almost always play well after a loss.
00:34:14
So we have that going for us going into the 40 Niners game.
00:34:18
Yes, they dio, but there are back to back losses, but they're actually getting a week of practice.
00:34:24
And I'm not trying to be the Boston sports media, which I feel so bad for all you people in Boston that have to be subjected to that on a daily basis.
00:34:31
Come watch us instead.
00:34:33
Yeah.
00:34:34
What did you say? Save some brain cells. Save some. Great.
00:34:36
So, yeah.
00:34:37
So what? We're fled your mass saying that it's done right.
00:34:39
Like Belichick was washed up. Yes.
00:34:42
Yes.
00:34:43
I actually saw some absurd statement that said Belichick wants to lose this game to make Jimmy Garoppolo look good.
00:34:50
Who said that? I I don't know.
00:34:53
It was out there, though. I saw it on Twitter today.
00:34:55
There's just, you know, there's idiots.
00:34:58
There's absolutely and, you know, SportsCastr never responded to me, but I'm gonna put it out again, live on their platform, and I'm gonna put it on our podcast if there ever comes a time.
00:35:11
That corner and I sound as stupid is 98.5.
00:35:15
Sports up.
00:35:16
That's what it's called, right? If there's ever a time that we sound, it's stupid as these guys on that radio station.
00:35:23
Please.
00:35:24
We put in a lot of work for you.
00:35:26
Just let's go pull the plug pulled the plug plug.
00:35:30
Something's not right.
00:35:32
I've never seen two guys who just want to pretend to be shock jocks more than them.
00:35:38
I mean, like, they're Howard Stern's the I think it's Fletcher.
00:35:41
He's a Howard Stern wannabe in absolute Howard Stern wannabe.
00:35:45
He's an idiot.
00:35:47
Um, you know, and the thing is, is they'll take no accountability toe what they said, right, You know, and I get that again.
00:35:54
We're two talking heads, talking about two talking heads.
00:35:57
But, you know, I in 2017 I tweeted out that the Patriots need to cuts to find Gilmore.
00:36:03
That's probably the 20th time I've told you that right on.
00:36:07
And I tell you that because I take ownership of stupidity, if the Patriots win the Super Bowl, are these guys going to come out and say, You know, we want to apologize for all the idiotic stances we took about a team that was dealing with practice it or with covert issues that practice twice all this kind of different stuff? Are they going to take accountability for that? No, they're not gonna pretend like it never happened.
00:36:36
They're gonna come out and talk about how bad they're gonna be the next year they'd come out and talk about how bad 2021 is gonna be.
00:36:45
You know, people talk a lot about the Boston Globe, but as you know, I've I've got a subscription.
00:36:49
I gave them a chance.
00:36:51
Yeah, they're writers aren't as bad as their tweets.
00:36:55
You know, they're really not.
00:36:56
They actually write some good stuff in the globe.
00:36:58
I think they get more of a bad rap just because, uh, Dan Shaughnessy has been with him for so long, and he's put out so much nonsense that when you think of the globe, you think of him.
00:37:07
But they have other people.
00:37:08
They have a lot of other people that work for him.
00:37:13
Yeah, Shaughnessy's Shaughnessy's different.
00:37:17
Yeah, especially after I read the dynasty and it brought everything back to my memory.
00:37:22
I'm like, Oh, my goodness, I'm like this started in like 1996.
00:37:26
He started talking about how bad they are.
00:37:29
Yeah, that's that's brutal.
00:37:31
It's There's, I think he's got about eight takes.
00:37:34
Yeah, that you just go.
00:37:36
Yes, it was, like, over and over again.
00:37:38
And they kept citing him and like the guy did such a phenomenal job.
00:37:42
And like the history of everything, he would be like On November 14th of 2000 and nine, the Boston door brand this story.
00:37:48
It's like he had everything.
00:37:51
Yeah, it's a great book.
00:37:53
You guys gotta read a Jeff Benedict the dynasty.
00:37:55
If you haven't read it yet, whether you're patriots it or not, you have to watch.
00:37:59
You have to read this book if you're a football fan at all. Phenomenal.
00:38:02
Bookman.
00:38:03
So, speaking of crazy takes, we got to talk about what we're gonna get into earlier with the new trade.
00:38:09
Hold on before we before we get into that, Should we tackle this Dallas game a little bit? Yeah.
00:38:18
Yeah, that was That was something.
00:38:20
Does that make you nervous for the cardinals? Or do you think Dallas is that much of a dumpster fire right now? Here's the thing.
00:38:28
And he Dalton got the crap end of the stick last night between balls and dropping footballs.
00:38:37
Hey, actually looked really good.
00:38:40
Yeah, my man Zeke Elliot, horrible last night on SportsCastr News got into a fight because I said he's the best running back Thio ever come out of Ohio State.
00:38:55
Okay, Yeah, I think I don't.
00:38:57
I need you to understand that guys like Eddie George where it Ohio State and held records for years.
00:39:05
And I came out and said he was the best running back and I had faith in him.
00:39:09
I picked the Dallas Cowboys toe win by at least 10.
00:39:14
, I picked them.
00:39:16
I picked them to win, too.
00:39:17
I completely had them winning.
00:39:18
I was in a pick him pool and I would have won the pool for the week if Dallas one last night.
00:39:24
Zeke Elliot, Who's getting paid? $100 billion? Yes.
00:39:33
He rushed the ball 12 times for 49 yards and lost two fumbles.
00:39:38
Two fumbles? Yeah.
00:39:39
Bad, bad fumbles.
00:39:41
Bad, bad fumbles.
00:39:46
I wish that they had drops for every player here.
00:39:50
Yeah, Michael Gallup in the end zone.
00:39:53
On third down, I would say Marty Cooper was probably the only guy that I gave up.
00:39:58
Any sort of passed to.
00:39:59
Last name? Yeah.
00:40:01
Yeah, he had a decent game.
00:40:03
That was just I mean, that was the most pitiful display.
00:40:08
I was so frustrated after the Denver game on Sunday against the Patriots watching that game last night though I sat there and went Dallas fans feel worse than me right now.
00:40:20
Oh, they have Teoh.
00:40:21
You have to.
00:40:22
Yeah, they have Thio because it wasn't Andy Dalton.
00:40:25
If Andy Dalton comes out in sucks, then you're kind of like Okay, All right.
00:40:32
You know, it is what it is that is out.
00:40:35
And this is what we have to deal with.
00:40:37
Kind of like we were after Kansas City.
00:40:39
We weren't mad after the Kansas City game.
00:40:41
You know, we came out here.
00:40:43
We came on here and said, Brian Hoyer disappointed.
00:40:47
Jared's didn't play like crap.
00:40:49
I mean, we need Cam Newton back, right? I think we're both upset after Sunday because we're like, ****, Cam Newton was back.
00:40:55
And that's the ****.
00:40:56
Poor display that we put out there, right? Exactly.
00:41:01
Yeah, it was hard toe watchman.
00:41:03
I turned it off halfway through the fourth quarter, and I'm like, What am I staying up to watch this game for? At this point, I'm like, this is just gonna be junk yards.
00:41:10
Um, Cowboys defense is just pitiful to which they have been all season, but they had a couple of one play.
00:41:16
It was a one play drive, 80 yard touchdown.
00:41:18
They let Kyler Murray run all over them.
00:41:23
Kenyan Drake had 100 like 60 something yards.
00:41:26
And before this, he was getting 2.
00:41:27
5 yards of carry.
00:41:29
They were pitiful all around Kenyan Drake.
00:41:33
After getting paid last year.
00:41:34
He was having an awful, awful, awful, awful style.
00:41:38
Cowboys made them look good.
00:41:41
Yeah, anyone who needs to be revitalized.
00:41:43
I think the key here is just to play the Cowboys defense or just the Cowboys in general.
00:41:49
Cowboys in general.
00:41:50
Cowboys in general.
00:41:52
Um, yeah.
00:41:53
Very disappointed.
00:41:54
The Dallas Cowboys last night.
00:41:55
I had an awful week.
00:41:56
A pick.
00:41:57
I'm good for you.
00:41:58
That you picked all those games? Dude, I wouldn't like 500.
00:42:00
I think I went under 500 for the week.
00:42:02
Did you? Yeah, one of them.
00:42:03
One of them, I think, was the Falcons.
00:42:05
Like nobody took the Falcons and I had the Falcons.
00:42:08
It's It's impossible.
00:42:10
Just so you know.
00:42:12
So go under 500 pick him like you couldn't even try to go under 500.
00:42:17
I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you how bad I did.
00:42:20
You could flip a coin just every game I could.
00:42:23
I couldn't see what happened.
00:42:27
I had Minnesota.
00:42:29
Yeah, I had the Panthers.
00:42:32
I had the Patriots.
00:42:34
I had Jacksonville.
00:42:36
I had Washington.
00:42:38
I had the Rams.
00:42:40
I had the Cowboys.
00:42:44
I went 1112 one Wanted to, too.
00:42:50
And 22 and 32 and 43 and 43 and five, four and 55 and 56 and 56 and 67 It's I went seven per seven this weekend.
00:43:05
Hey, 50 50 seven.
00:43:08
I got. I went 11.
00:43:09
I got 11 points a week before I got.
00:43:11
I got three games wrong.
00:43:13
Yeah, before games I got right.
00:43:15
I picked the Colts.
00:43:18
I picked the Steelers, Steelers e picked the Titans.
00:43:22
I took the Ravens, I took the Dolphins.
00:43:26
I took the city.
00:43:27
I took Tampa Bay outside of Tampa Bay.
00:43:30
I took every obvious win out there.
00:43:35
Yeah, I had the Packers and that woman.
00:43:37
I thought the Packers were actually gonna win that.
00:43:39
I thought Tampa Bay might be a little bit overrated, but my goodness, they blew the doors off them on both sides of the ball Well, and I put out a tweet on Monday and said Connor Carney had a awful Sunday.
00:43:50
We had to watch a Brady to Gronkowski touchdown bets have, like three amazing defensive plays in a row, and the Patriots lost and the Patriots lost.
00:44:02
Like just what A Sunday? What a son! Bad Boston Sports Day.
00:44:06
We don't have too many of those that we have been extremely fortunate.
00:44:09
So we just gotta eat it.
00:44:11
All right, guys, we are going to get into Conner.
00:44:13
I think you got a couple more things for me, right? We're going to get into that.
00:44:17
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So what do you got for me? Yes, sir.
00:47:20
So you and I already talked about it.
00:47:22
Anybody who was anywhere near Twitter today knows that the Patriots have a new trade rumors swirling around, and it is wide receiver John Ross.
00:47:34
What do you think? It's amazing that when you're wide receiving corps is struggling that the most mediocre players who aren't on your team suddenly seem like the biggest catch that you could possibly find.
00:47:52
Like, um, dude, we had.
00:47:58
He's never been anything special.
00:48:00
No, he's Philip Thor Set.
00:48:02
He was drafted ninth overall in 2017.
00:48:06
Since 2000, he's never played a full season.
00:48:09
He had eight good games last year, which put him on pace for 1000 yards.
00:48:15
He's been a healthy scratch for three of Cincinnati's games this year.
00:48:19
He's fast But he's a white.
00:48:22
He's 1/4 receiver.
00:48:23
He's a wide receiver.
00:48:24
Wide receiver for the Patriots.
00:48:27
Have a wide receiver.
00:48:28
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00:48:30
The problem is, the Patriots got him pointing three.
00:48:32
Honestly, if you're thinking about giving up draft capital for John Ross, you might as well give Jacoby Meyers an opportunity to beam or involved in this offense.
00:48:45
Here's the thing.
00:48:46
The Patriots and this is a block.
00:48:47
It's gonna be my block that's coming out tomorrow.
00:48:50
The Patriots are in a very peculiar position, although I think I talked about in today's block there in a precarious position because they're kind of caught right in between being legitimate competitors and a rebuild.
00:49:02
They're not quite Super Bowl contenders, but they're not quite ready for rebuild.
00:49:07
And I think that next year is gonna be here that built out, especially to keep Cam Newton, Bill Belichick and go all in to give up draft capital for John Ross.
00:49:17
When you have Jacoby Meyers there, when it's not really okay, he's got speed.
00:49:21
We had that in Philip Door said.
00:49:23
How upset where Patriot fans and Philip Door set over the last three years.
00:49:27
Oh my goodness, I know, and that's all we'd be getting.
00:49:31
I would like for me number one, As I said to you over and over again, I think they need to go after a tight end.
00:49:36
Whether it's David to Joko, Jack Doyle, something of that nature.
00:49:40
If you're gonna bring it a receiver, try to bring in a legit number three.
00:49:44
What I call the, you know, third tier receivers.
00:49:46
What I'd like to see is the pages bring in a second tier tight end and the third tier receiver.
00:49:50
I think it helps the offense lot like it.
00:49:52
Kenny Stills at a Houston. Yep.
00:49:55
You know, that could be a good move for the Patriots.
00:49:58
Uh, people want John Ross.
00:50:00
Key is available, and I know that I'm going to go on the SportsCastr check.
00:50:04
I'm gonna go on Twitter, and people are going to try to convince me why John Ross is a good pick when he's not right, right? And I think it's funny because Patriots fans do this all the time.
00:50:15
You randomly find someone.
00:50:17
Last year was Mohammed Sunu, and I think that all of us really think Mohammad Sanu was gonna be that good.
00:50:22
Well, we're all just looking for somebody to come help and save the offense.
00:50:25
So when we got Mohammad Sanu, we all through our hands in the air and went, That's I think that's just like John Ross to point out Mohammad Sanu to point out.
00:50:34
Yeah, I mean, if you could get John Ross for seventh round draft pick, then I say do it and see what happens.
00:50:39
But I'm not giving up 1/5 that that's too much.
00:50:42
That's too much for someone who you're not even going to significantly impact your offense.
00:50:46
And, yeah, Mohammed Sunu turned into a disaster.
00:50:50
You know, Belichick tried. It didn't work.
00:50:52
And the Onley guys who've been able to step on this team and really be contributors have been top tier receivers.
00:50:59
Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown.
00:51:02
Um, now they didn't last long enough, but they got the offense.
00:51:05
I mean, Antonio Brown had an amazing debut for the Patriots, and they didn't have a full week of practice.
00:51:10
But because he's a top tier guy, you could put him in simple positions.
00:51:14
He could run his routes.
00:51:15
He could make the catch is things could be great, right? So those because those air top shelf to your one people you're gonna bring in a guy like John Ross is you're not gonna see the impact, right? So you think at this point they might as well just get your Kobe Maya's mawr involved over John Ross? Yeah, if that's what you're looking for.
00:51:31
Now if you're gonna make a move for David a joke or Jack Doyle from the from the tight ends, those air Two guys, that could be long term guys for you at least 56 years.
00:51:40
Yeah.
00:51:41
Then I make I'd give up some capital for them And then again, if you could get it tight end like that, which I call a second tier tight.
00:51:46
And it's not in Austin, Hooper, Hunter, Henry or Gronkowski or anything of that nature.
00:51:50
But two guys that can contribute lunch pail kind of workers if you could bring them in and then get a third tier Kenny Stills that you could move into the wide receiver three position and bounce bird back to the fore.
00:52:01
I think now you got something cooking with the Patriots offense, right? And I was gonna ask you in the tight end position at this point have you seen enough of? Ryan is Oh, I know, aside and keen, we don't know what's up with them, but are you ready to just push him aside and throw the other two out there and see what happens? No, because the Patriots aren't in a position yet.
00:52:21
I mean, I want to see it happen, but I'm not ready just to say, Hey, go because the Patriots still in a position to compete, right? I don't like experimenting when you're in a position to compete.
00:52:33
I don't wanna.
00:52:34
If Dalton Keen is not starting and not dressing because the Patriots don't think he's good enough, I don't want them to experiment with him.
00:52:39
What I'd like to see is Devon Asea, see, get more involved in the game calling.
00:52:43
You know, I'd want Cam Newton, who likes using tight ends toe look in his direction because C Asik is that could actually be V very.
00:52:53
Um could be very similar to the tight end that that he had in Carolina, a guy whose name just slipped my mind.
00:53:01
And he's a freaking star in the league Greg Olsen.
00:53:04
But on my fantasy team, for like eight years, I think it could be very similar in style.
00:53:09
That's what I'd like to see.
00:53:11
I don't want unless you think Dalton Kings ready.
00:53:13
I don't want to see an experiment with Dalton.
00:53:15
Keen Ryan is always Ryan is.
00:53:17
Oh, I do wanna throw in.
00:53:19
No, this is from the chat on SportsCastr rhinos saying that you know, the grass is always greener. Absolutely.
00:53:27
Um, he said in a joke, Who or nothing.
00:53:30
But I think that Jack Doyle could be thrown in there and make chicken.
00:53:34
Blog's made an absolute, um, fantastic point, he said.
00:53:39
The Patriots to get get a John Ross and free agency and Taylor Gabriel and I absolutely agree they could get the exact same player in free agency.
00:53:46
It's gonna cost him a little bit of money.
00:53:48
And he says that Cam Newton is giving Aussie Aussie the Brady treatment. I agree.
00:53:52
I think that, you know Cam Newton is not looking in his direction.
00:53:55
I believe in that game on Sunday when he took a launch downfield, having the chicken pointed out to me on Monday when he launched the ball downfield to Bird, which I actually thought it was a good play, came just under threw the ball.
00:54:07
Demir Bird had to step on the defender.
00:54:08
Honestly, Odyssey was wide open 20 yards down the field. Yeah.
00:54:12
Yeah.
00:54:13
So that kind of stuff, right? So, yeah, he is.
00:54:16
He's not like the only I think the only time he's target him was when he was in trouble and threw that interception when he screamed at him to go.
00:54:22
So I don't know why he's not throwing RCSC.
00:54:25
Maybe he doesn't trust him.
00:54:26
Um, but I mean you can do is not really throwing anybody right now.
00:54:30
So, you know, Julian Edelman had as many receptions as he did pass completions on Sunday at two apiece.
00:54:38
Yeah, and that's an issue when you're number one.
00:54:40
Receiver is throwing as many past says he's catching.
00:54:42
Something is not right.
00:54:44
So them they gotta totally revamp that.
00:54:48
Yeah.
00:54:49
So I got a block coming out tomorrow giving my full thoughts on John Ross.
00:54:52
But it's basically what I just said today, but you guys should read it Anyways, I take my whole dot com.
00:54:55
Now there's another trade, man. No, there. Really.
00:54:58
But but I think who was it? Was it? Even though there was some tweets out there? Yeah, I saw a couple of tweets out there about a potential, uh, a potential guy coming to New England who has been a pretty popular guy out in Houston.
00:55:12
Bill O Brien.
00:55:14
No, J J.
00:55:16
Watt.
00:55:17
Man.
00:55:18
I don't know if anyone saw this on Twitter.
00:55:19
I'm by no means saying it's gonna happen.
00:55:20
But you did see the tweets right there.
00:55:22
A few tweets out there that said Make the call for the Patriots to go get J. J. Watt.
00:55:27
I think you would be excited.
00:55:29
I have put out there that if the Houston Texans told Bill Belichick the only way we're giving you J.
00:55:37
J Watt is we want Ray routes.
00:55:39
Testicles e will send them on rush delivery.
00:55:46
It's a pure later tomorrow way.
00:55:49
Appreciate that, too.
00:55:50
Yeah, that's how much I love J.
00:55:53
J.
00:55:54
Watt. Now, let's Rhino just said it.
00:55:56
I'm not I'm hard.
00:55:57
Yeah, I'm hard to I'm hard to.
00:56:00
I am hard to um no.
00:56:03
Look, I am, Dude, I love J.
00:56:05
J. Watt and we know it's not gonna happen.
00:56:07
I think it was just like Evan Lazar who just threw out.
00:56:09
Hey, if I'm the Patriots I'm thinking, What the hell I'm calling and saying.
00:56:12
You know what? What could we get for J.
00:56:15
J. Watt? J.
00:56:16
J.
00:56:17
What's not coming in New England? But I just love thinking about the prospect of J.
00:56:20
J. Watt coming to New England.
00:56:22
I'm I love the Watt brothers, but I love JJ the most.
00:56:26
Um, I love the way he plays.
00:56:28
I love who he is is a person.
00:56:30
Dude, I got a little J J Watt statue in my you know, man Cave.
00:56:34
Absolutely.
00:56:35
Love.
00:56:36
The guy actually meant to bring the toys.
00:56:37
When you brought it up, I was gonna put it in, But I forgot.
00:56:41
I love J.
00:56:42
J.
00:56:43
Watt and and, you know, um, just to think that there's a, like, the slightest the possibilities, um, that the host of tag is going to What's he hosts a tag or super tag or ultimate bag? I don't even know he hosted a game show.
00:56:58
And it's like the ultimate tag.
00:57:00
It's, like, easy. Yeah.
00:57:03
Um, yeah, I don't know, but honest to God, it z he'd be a great locker room presence.
00:57:13
A great presence on the field, man. He'd be great in the community.
00:57:16
They got a good dude out there, and that's why I don't think we're going to get him.
00:57:21
Summer says.
00:57:22
Its ultimate tax.
00:57:23
Let me chicken in the SportsCastr chat and everybody who's listening on the podcast right now.
00:57:27
If you if you want to get on the check, I'm watching live 9 p.m.
00:57:30
Eastern time on Tuesdays and Thursdays on and once caught, and I figure some stuff up will be around a little bit.
00:57:36
Maura's well, but MK Chicken says this is the second time Ray mentioned cutting off his balls on the stream.
00:57:42
Um, and it won't be with man scape there, too safe for that? Yeah, yeah, I won't be good because I got the anti, uh, the the anti pulled and cut technology.
00:57:52
Who else did I say I cut my balls off for my chicken? If you could remember And Rhino says, uh, he's married.
00:57:58
He's not the majority owner of them anymore.
00:58:00
Uh, e I would have to run it by my partner upstairs, make sure she's OK.
00:58:05
I think I own the left one.
00:58:06
She owns the right one.
00:58:07
That's the Maybe I could give her a little bit of a buyout and convince her that you know J.
00:58:12
J.
00:58:13
Watt coming to the Patriots is worth both testicles leaving It could be worth it, right? It could be.
00:58:17
I mean, it's it's just me who loses the orgasm.
00:58:20
No, Uh, not that, but yeah, man.
00:58:23
So ultimate tag is to show that he has never seen ultimate tag.
00:58:26
I've never seen it.
00:58:27
Now it's like American gladiators.
00:58:30
Like meats.
00:58:33
Yeah, it's crazy.
00:58:35
It's like a real sport.
00:58:36
It's like a sport.
00:58:37
I'll have to look into it, huh? Yeah, and it's crazy. It's good.
00:58:42
Dude, how excited would you be if J.
00:58:45
J.
00:58:46
Watt came? I would be I would be absolutely Palm Man.
00:58:48
I think he would be phenomenal.
00:58:49
He already is phenomenal, but I just I won't let myself get that kind of hopes up.
00:58:54
I don't think the Texans would ever deal him.
00:58:57
Dude, I don't think we can talk me cutting my balls off like I don't think there's anything else we could talk about that would talk that way.
00:59:04
Got 50 seconds left.
00:59:06
So maybe it's time we say goodbye to people.
00:59:07
Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Ray route.
00:59:09
That man is Connor Carney.
00:59:11
Thank you for tuning in here.
00:59:12
Thio, dp and Commentary.
00:59:14
We will be back on Thursday at 9 p.m. Eastern time.
00:59:18
Until then, take care.
00:59:20
See you.
00:59:25
Oh, yeah.
00:59:39
Mhm.

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