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00:00:23
And with that, it's the Monday oh GP.
00:00:26
Friends were, as always, I am Adam Arm Brecht and joined by the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andrew mega wits, I forgot how good it feels to wake up Monday morning and want to tune into sports talk radio.
00:00:47
Want to check all the sports websites? It's been a long time, Adam and Man.
00:00:51
I will take my victory lap today.
00:00:54
You better believe it, sir.
00:00:55
So obviously we come in.
00:00:56
This is a long time waiting for New York Giants fans, and that's where we start, right? One giant recap with the Giants win over the Washington football team and there's, Ah, there's some reasons for maybe a bit of a victory lap, not just for the for Big Blue, but also for yours truly.
00:01:15
Uh, walk us through it and we had our pregame.
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We talked about it on Social.
00:01:19
We gave our predictions.
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I thought this one was going to be close.
00:01:22
Had the Giants winning by a touchdown was I felt good.
00:01:25
I feel like I was close to the mark here, and yet you darn near put that rate in the center of the bull's eye.
00:01:31
It's like playing golf.
00:01:32
Getting closest to the pin is what it feels like.
00:01:34
You know, the one thing that I said Thio to recap the Our preview on Sunday.
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WAAS.
00:01:41
We'll get a touchdown on offense, a touchdown on defense, a couple of field goals, and the Giants will escape with the win.
00:01:46
And that's literally what the New York football Giants did.
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Um, you know, we highlighted the best profit that I thought of the day was.
00:01:54
Will the Giants score a defensive touchdown? And you had asked me on our on our preview, Is it gonna be an interception? Is it gonna be a fumble? And I said, That's the beauty of Kyle Island being back there and a terrible offensive line is we kind of get a two for one.
00:02:07
There's gonna be some kind of turnover.
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You know, Bradbury had an early interception.
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I was praying that he was gonna take that to the house and he got tackled before it.
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But oh, Kyle, Alan surely steps up and delivers for me later on in the game.
00:02:20
It was a beaut, Man.
00:02:21
Listen, there's so many so many positive things to take out of this game, but that specifically, we don't always hit it on the mark.
00:02:28
But when you start to get a sense of the team and really the Cailin thought that you presented on the front end of this game, that was the key one because he looked pretty good and we'll get into some of that stuff here.
00:02:36
But ultimately this is what you get with a player like that.
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He can do everything pretty well between the twenties and even when you get down to that red zone.
00:02:44
But he's also going toe have a couple of these game changing plays, and that's really what we saw over the course off this one.
00:02:51
So as we turn our page into some of the fine details here, where by the way, I was 24 17 calling for the Giants victory.
00:02:58
So you know, I feel like Listen, I don't take a full lap.
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I pull a hammy like three quarters of the way around the track, but I still feel pretty good about what I said.
00:03:04
You know, you're close.
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I mean, I mean, final score 20 and 19.
00:03:08
Well, obviously Gettinto, how we got there and how much we love watching riverboat Ron.
00:03:14
I mean that that Z I don't think there's a single giant fan that was that was sitting down when they decided to go for two.
00:03:21
Like I think it is, like everyone in unison just raises up and staring at the TV standing there.
00:03:27
I mean, I didn't even need to see you to know that that's what you were doing as well.
00:03:30
I will say as we go into some of those key players on both sides of the ball for this game, there's there's some weird mentality.
00:03:37
Whenever you watch, you ever see like head coaches on the sidelines, right? They always get their hands, always get like onto their knees and they're slightly crouched over.
00:03:44
And it's like if I lean a little bit ****her out onto the field, I'm really going to get the the value of this next play that's coming up for my team.
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It happens to be a lot of times in the apartment, right, Like you start standing up kind of get that lien going on.
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You took the hat down a little bit lower and you say this is it, boys, Come on.
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And whatever weird uh, you know, whatever weird juju you put out there into the universe, I feel like you start to fall into those patterns.
00:04:07
So yesterday, thankfully, for the most part, I kept myself Just relax on the sofa.
00:04:12
Maybe I felt like, Oh, this is the one We should be winning easily, got a little tighter down the stretch and still able to pull it out.
00:04:19
So let's start on.
00:04:20
What I think we both agree is the biggest side of the football here for Big Blue.
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And that's the defensive side of things.
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Listen, we we've been highlighting this.
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I think around the NFL, the Giants defense is starting to get some or credit as the weeks go by.
00:04:33
Is this the stiff his opponent to take on? Obviously not.
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But when you mention the play of Kyle Allen and where you think you can capitalize, you still have to go out there and make those big plays.
00:04:43
And I think we really saw it from the front seven in the linebacking corps.
00:04:47
And then, of course, in the secondary as well.
00:04:49
When you walk through this one of the big plays you loved and what are some of those even individual matchups that we highlighted pregame that played themselves out here on Sunday? Well, I mean, our linebacking corps ended up really delivering, you know, it's tough with, you know, Lorenzo Carter being out.
00:05:04
Um, you know, examine as being out.
00:05:07
You kind of look to say, who's gonna be the player that was going to step up and and man did take crowd or step up.
00:05:12
He played excellent.
00:05:14
Um, you know, even outside of the fumble recovery on the Cairo Kyler fackrell, uh, sack fumble that he had against Kyle Island, take Crowder had 10 tackles.
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He was all over the field.
00:05:25
We knew that we were going to get a huge game from someone like Blake Martinez.
00:05:29
He had 14 total tackles.
00:05:31
He was all over the field as well.
00:05:32
Um, Leonard Williams was getting in the backfield with consistency, and, you know, not not to steal all the thunder, but I mean, is it safe to say that James Bradberry might be the best cornerback? We're playing the best football of any cornerback in the league right now? Yeah, Let's see.
00:05:47
Coming into this game, he was top five in the league at the cornerback position rating out as we sometimes throw out this reference point of pro football focus.
00:05:56
85 in the game.
00:05:57
So you go back to the week prior and we had talked about where was the disappearing act from a Marty Cooper? Well, that was specifically around the work that James Bradbury was doing.
00:06:06
I will just briefly say to you mentioned some of those names that were in there.
00:06:09
One of the tip of the hat I want to give out is to Blake Martinez, who looked like on one play, a Zeiss, a doctor arm break here, pull like a peck muscle or something look like he overextended himself on a tackle.
00:06:22
I got really concerned, Riel quick that we weren't maybe going to see him on the field throughout this game.
00:06:28
And I just like the toughness, the grittiness that he brought to it by showing up, getting himself back out there, even though he took off a handful of plays, Mayo came in in relief of him and then really got himself again right back out there.
00:06:39
Got the job done, so I appreciated that.
00:06:42
But from a Bradbury standpoint, we said, unlike Dallas, the big weapon here for Washington is obviously McLaurin.
00:06:49
You want to be able to shut him down and force quote the others to beat you up.
00:06:54
And now listen, coming into you said Right 70 I think, was the over under for Terry McLaurin, in terms of yards did get to 74 on seven catches, but very much was mitigated.
00:07:03
And, by the way, Washington.
00:07:05
So if you're thinking well, is that stat line that Bradbury suffered? No, Washington actually made a real concerted effort to try to get him anywhere on the field except lined up against Bradbury.
00:07:17
So this is now becoming a key matchup for opposing offenses to see, acknowledge and then say, How are we going to mitigate losing arguably one of our best weapons? How do we put him in a different position? Has some success.
00:07:30
And that's nice, man, because on a game to game, week to week basis, when you can dictate some things to the other team, that's how you start to get a team out of their rhythm.
00:07:39
And that's what we have in Bradbury.
00:07:40
Now We have a guy that coming into a game, they say, Okay, how do we scheme and and get McLaurin somewhere else.
00:07:47
And as soon as you do that, you're asking your offense to do something different than they normally maybe Dio you hit the nail on the head the second that you can apply pressure so that a team doesn't have all of their options available going into a game, you start moving them down a path that you want them to go.
00:08:02
It's like, you know, when Dak was healthy for the Dallas Cowboys, they know that they're gonna be able to throw the ball all around.
00:08:07
No one's gonna stop there passing attack.
00:08:09
So you have tow as a defense.
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Think about how you're gonna handle them.
00:08:12
You know, for the Giants, having Bradbury, like you said, they all of a sudden take half of the playbook for Terry McLaurin, and they have toe kind of put it to the side and say That's not a priority, because we just can't have him going up against Bradbury.
00:08:24
Every play will be losing one of our best assets.
00:08:26
And I think, um, you know, in terms of targets thrown towards Bradbury, I think there was only like, a couple of catches for like 15 yards when it was thrown in his direction.
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Oh, and by the way, he also had an interception in this game.
00:08:37
So he has been awesome.
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He has been wonderful.
00:08:40
Logan, Ryan.
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What a great signing he has been.
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He has really helped solidify that back end.
00:08:45
You know, we're going into this with, you know, McKinney getting hurt, Beal opting out and all these different things happening in the secondary.
00:08:52
He has really looked great in terms of solidifying that back peace.
00:08:55
And he's the type of player that is not a one year deal that I think likes playing in New York hometown guy.
00:09:01
I could see him resigning for a couple of different years to stick around during this kind of rebuild transformation the Giants are going through.
00:09:08
Yeah, I wanted to get those stats up on Bradbury.
00:09:10
Unfortunately, can't get those individual game logs right now on the advanced metrics for him.
00:09:14
But what you can say about him is that so far in this season, he's been targeted 30 times, surrendered just 17 completions of 56%.
00:09:23
So he's done a really nice job there, 13% on the missed tackles.
00:09:27
We talked about bringing that number consistently down.
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But I like what he's doing so far and now and by the way, is also on.
00:09:32
Lee surrendered two touchdowns to this point of the season, seven yards per target, so I kept everything in front of them.
00:09:38
Will come back in on Wednesday and clean up that stat for you, just in terms of what he surrendered in this game and how Washington was forced to look other places in order to accomplish that.
00:09:46
Um, elsewhere on the defense was there any other big players that jumped out of you? Obviously, we saw love gets, um, or snaps in this game.
00:09:53
He does get, you know, the touchdowns against him.
00:09:55
You and I talked about it in real time.
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That boy you'd like to see him get.
00:10:00
Just get his head around.
00:10:01
I think is really what you're looking for their because, even though they say it's almost like a foot disparity between target and defender.
00:10:07
As I said it to you, he didn't really at the elevate, though.
00:10:10
This ball was thrown nicely, but it was in a spot inside shoulder, and if love gets his head around, he could do that, but still nice to see him out there on the field, indicating Maybe defensively.
00:10:21
Patrick Graham is just saying Hey, week to week matchup to match up.
00:10:24
We're still going to get in some of these guys.
00:10:25
So happy to see he hasn't fallen into, Let's say, the valentine category right where you're special teamers and you're really not going to see a lot of time on defense.
00:10:33
Yeah, that love play was tough because Kyle Alan did throw an amazing ball like that.
00:10:39
That is, it was feathered in there.
00:10:41
So, you know, while we would like to see Julian, you know, turn around, maybe get a hand on and break that one up, you know, kudos toe.
00:10:47
You know the offense for running a better play.
00:10:50
The last thing I'll say on the defensive side of the ball is we were also able to stop the run.
00:10:55
We were effective against the run game, you know, the Washington football team on Lee had 3.
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5 yards per carry.
00:11:01
Eso when When you start dictating them and saying Kyle needs to beat us as we talked about before.
00:11:06
That's where these mistakes come in where you get him in, you know, long, long distance situations.
00:11:10
Throws the interception, makes critical mistakes while he's getting sacked.
00:11:14
And ultimately, it's the reason why the Giants came out on top.
00:11:17
Yeah, love to play from Letter Williams as well, and also really loved the effectiveness of Dexter Lawrence, especially on the two point conversion attempt.
00:11:27
There at the end of this one, with 36 seconds to go where he manages ***y Dex, he managed to get himself out on the edge and just keep the quarterback from being able to get forward a little bit and make that choice about maybe I want to scamper forward and run for this thing.
00:11:40
He does just enough with that big body to shift it to the outside and forced Allen to try to find a target.
00:11:45
And obviously, it comes up short there in the end zone and River wrote, Ron sends with love a victory to Big Blue.
00:11:52
Let's hope our attention quickly over here to the offensive side of the ball.
00:11:55
We're obviously we're talking about a bit of a pendulum swing here, right? We don't know what we're getting.
00:12:00
Still the lovely for me.
00:12:02
These are the obvious ones.
00:12:03
Beautiful touch pass over the top from Daniel Jones to Darius latent on that touchdown play.
00:12:08
We know that slate in dealing with the foot injury, basically popped onto this field for handful of blaze.
00:12:12
And when he did, they were big catches for big chain moving yardage.
00:12:16
So that was really nice to see.
00:12:17
And now you still hope that he's okay coming out of it.
00:12:20
Thea other side, obviously, is the offensive line keeping Chase Young off the back of Daniel Jones.
00:12:24
What did you like here and just what you know, where's the murkiness where we still trying to figure some things out offensively, but sing the praises first cause that's what we want this Monday morning.
00:12:32
Too big.
00:12:33
So Daniel Jones, with his feet that run that he had, was awesome.
00:12:39
You know, Daniel Jones ended up being our leading Russia, I believe again, which probably not the best thing in the world, but seven for 74 yards.
00:12:46
This is the type of offense that I want to run with Daniel Jones.
00:12:49
I want him to use his legs to make plays, and obviously it was 49 yard run down the sideline that that was the catalyst of that.
00:12:57
But even outside of that, he still had 25 other yards rushing, which is great if we could get Daniel Jones.
00:13:02
You know, over 30 yards rushing, 40 yards rushing in a game that shows that we're bringing a different dynamic.
00:13:09
You know, the other piece of it is while it doesn't show up on the stat sheet, I thought Devonta Freeman looked really good running the football like he was making some different jump cuts.
00:13:18
He was getting the yards when we needed them.
00:13:20
He only ended up having about 60 65 yards, and it was about 3.
00:13:23
5 yards to carry the same that Washington did.
00:13:26
But it just felt like he was picking up first downs or making you know, good place, falling forward, giving three offense and opportunity could continue to move the ball, whereas before we're kind of getting you know, two or three yard losses were not being able to do anything during the Russian attack, and that really makes Daniel Jones put in a tough position.
00:13:43
Yeah, for sure.
00:13:44
You know, we were saying coming into this I thought maybe a little more weighing Goldman because we've seen the uptick in terms of them being on the field.
00:13:51
But I think what we really got here was just the identity of saying What we want is consistency.
00:13:57
And even though we've like Goldman over the years, we also know he hasn't been a consistent back.
00:14:01
That's why hasn't found more snaps.
00:14:03
So as Freeman continues to find his rhythm in this offense, it's just nice to go to give him the ball, know that you're going to get those 3 to 4 yards, had a long of 14.
00:14:10
Like you said 18 for 61.
00:14:11
It's nothing to write home about but touching back on what you said it with Daniel Jones there.
00:14:16
You know, I I think that when you say 30 yards a game, listen, I think that that number could even move a little bit higher than that.
00:14:23
I know there's the enormous play where, by the way, the camera man gets totally thrown off there in the in the live game action where I couldn't those e Yeah, I was waiting for him to say Boy, and Freeman gets blown up in the back in the backfield there because they just held on him.
00:14:38
He got tackled and then all of a sudden they just shoved this camera upfield.
00:14:43
And you just see Daniel Jones like a gazelle sprinting down the sideline before he gets taken down.
00:14:47
There's another great number of great plays like that, though.
00:14:49
Ran up the gut on a Q B draw in the red zone that got him down to the to you know.
00:14:54
So I think these designed runs air, hopefully going to continue to be the evolution of this offense with Daniel Jones.
00:15:00
And like you say, he ends up giving you 74 yards.
00:15:03
And if you want to go all purpose here, then it makes this stat line look a little bit better for you.
00:15:08
Because, unfortunately, Daniel Jones in this one on Lee through for what is that final number end up being 112 yards? He completed 12 passes.
00:15:19
He three completed 12 passes in the game and the Giants won.
00:15:22
I thought that going into the season, there was not a single instance where if you told me that Dale Jones is gonna complete 12 passes, that we would win a game and here we are well and again, Soto highlight even further.
00:15:31
The value of Darius Slaten is, you know he was had four targets, two receptions, 41 yards and a touchdown.
00:15:38
The 23 yard touchdown there obviously came off of Daniel Jones, but that second play was to move the chains on a third down, right, and you're still talking about an 18 yard pass play there to Darius later outside of that, when you go in the numbers, Jones spread the ball around, quote unquote, often back got his first catch for a glorious one yard.
00:15:58
But then, you know, single catch for board.
00:16:00
Single catch for Dion Lewis.
00:16:02
Golden Tate.
00:16:03
Just one for 11 3 catches for Kate and Smith.
00:16:05
And one of those came on a key third down in the red zone on better, I think.
00:16:08
Third and three there that he converted and then two for Evan Ingram had that nice, long, 21 yard pass play early.
00:16:14
But you know, in terms of playmakers, we know we want Evan Ingram to be that that's what you're supposed to dio.
00:16:20
But, boy, we're just not getting the consistency from anywhere else than specifically Darius Slaten.
00:16:25
Uh, you know, So it's hard to look at them and say, You know, where is Daniel Jones supposed to be looking in these situations? Even on a day one.
00:16:33
For the most part, the offensive line, which experienced a wrinkle in their lineup as well, played pretty good and mitigated.
00:16:40
Ah, front seven for the for the Washington football team that has, I think, five first round picks there across the front, and I'll throw out Andy before you dive in with this key stat coming into it.
00:16:50
99 pressures.
00:16:53
The Giants have surrendered onto Daniel Jones over those first five weeks.
00:16:57
They gave up just five here in week number six.
00:17:00
They were averaging almost 20 pressures a game to start this season.
00:17:03
So they really clean things up across the offensive line to give Daniel Jones to give Freeman some opportunity to at least be consistent and move this ball.
00:17:11
You know, after looking at the recap and just seeing where what happened with our wide receiving corps, you know, we already talked about the good.
00:17:19
Let me talk about the bad.
00:17:20
Now, you know, you look at what CJ boards injury was really tough to watch you know, reports are coming back relatively positive, Um, in terms of his health and his updates.
00:17:31
So we really do hope C J board gets better as soon as possible.
00:17:35
Um, you look it automatically did drop pass interference penalty on a critical play down in the red zone, which helped the Giants put some points on the board.
00:17:43
But one catch for board, one catch for tape, one catch for Mac.
00:17:48
This is just so glaring to me how much this team is missing.
00:17:53
Sterling Shepard.
00:17:54
And you know, people have different opinions on whether or not he's a number.
00:17:58
One should be paid this much.
00:17:59
He's a slot receiver.
00:18:00
None of that matters when you look at those stats and say, outside of Darius Leighton are wide receiving corps called three balls.
00:18:07
And we need someone else out there that Daniel Jones can turn Thio.
00:18:11
And not not all of this is necessarily on on the wide receivers themselves.
00:18:15
They're trying to make plays, but on Lee, 19 total passes in the game because the run game was going.
00:18:19
We just need Sterling Shepard back as soon as possible to give Daniel Jones another compliment because Golden Tate is just, but it's alarming how quickly it feels like it's falling off a cliff for him, where you know you're surprised if he gets three catches in the game now.
00:18:36
Yeah, and when you think ahead to that Thursday and matchup right short, weak for the Giant's obviously and Slaten looking like he could very well use a night off. Potentially.
00:18:45
And I love the gutsiness of him in this game because it's probably, uh, bar, you know, barring I he's the reason they won this game like outside of obviously the big defensive plays.
00:18:54
But I don't I think if you don't have him on the field, then you're just talking about Daniel Johnson to run for 150 yards because you're not gonna be able to move the ball through the air.
00:19:02
Imagine Thursday night.
00:19:04
No CJ board. He's still out.
00:19:06
Obviously, Darius Leighton says my ankle isn't isn't feeling too well.
00:19:11
Then we don't even know Sterling Shepard is still going to be activated and come off of IR.
00:19:15
Yet you're talking about only having Austin Mack and and what else on the roster at that point, like we Golden Tate, that that's it like you have those two active wide receiver.
00:19:26
So the Giants are gonna have some decisions, and we'll go through that on Wednesday.
00:19:29
Um, show just about what the Giants going to do with the wide receiver position, but it's starting to be an area of area of concern.
00:19:37
The last thing I will say about the offense is while Daniel Jones look good on the ground, he needs to stop making these mistakes in the red zone.
00:19:47
Daniel Jones cannot be throwing balls up from the 10 yard line and just giving away free interceptions.
00:19:54
And people say, Oh, those his arm got hit.
00:19:56
It was a little bit of, you know, wonky like no other quarterbacks are not making these critical mistakes with the same frequency that Daniel Jones is.
00:20:04
So whether his arm is getting hit or not, then he's got to tuck the ball, take the sack and take and take the three points.
00:20:10
He cannot be turning it over and giving up these red zone opportunities.
00:20:14
It's inexcusable anymore.
00:20:16
And while we do feel positive about the Giants getting a W here, that to me was the worst part of Daniel Jones game and he's still not showing progress there.
00:20:26
Yeah, Listen, we still are on the Daniel Jones train.
00:20:31
You know, it, Z slowing down.
00:20:34
It hasn't.
00:20:35
It's not nearly get into its destination as quickly as we thought it would, but there's still so many positive things.
00:20:39
And when you look at the lack of receiving corn you talk about well, once Darius Layton isn't in the game, you see how things really fall apart around Daniel Jones.
00:20:46
So you understand.
00:20:47
Hey, the weapons collection of weapons here just isn't what we thought it was going to be.
00:20:51
Obviously, Barkley getting injured doesn't help that situation, either.
00:20:54
But in these plays, right, you could go micro and say, Well, as he rolls out, you can see he wants to throw the ball away, and he just doesn't realize it doesn't quite have enough time to **** that arm back and get it out of the end zone.
00:21:05
That's fine, right? You can ****yze the play itself, but then, when you pull it back to your point, the macro is.
00:21:10
But this keeps happening with some consistency, right? Happened in Week one happens here in week six, so at some point you just have to look at and say Listen, I don't know what the better version off this is whether it's taking the sack right, pulling it down sooner and running.
00:21:24
There's a lot of other options you have there, but if if you're throwing the ball out of the end zone, you better be throwing it out of the end zone.
00:21:30
And even though in real time you and I discussed right you said terrible play, even though it's going to get overturned and I said It's just before they came back like, Oh, it's not getting overturned, man.
00:21:40
What? You know the NFL is fickle in this way, and I understand it.
00:21:44
But when that call is made on the field, they really get into the weeds on if I can, 100% overturn this thing with cer*****y.
00:21:51
It's going to stand.
00:21:53
So even though we all agree elbow touch right down on the white, etcetera.
00:21:57
It's a bang bang, hair splitting blade of grass kind of play.
00:22:00
So it ends up standing and it shouldn't even exist right.
00:22:03
That place should not exist because Daniel Jones needs to make a better choice.
00:22:07
Ah, better decision, a quicker decision in that scenario and you said it best the reason we're angry because we care and you know, I mean, like like, is that bad report card? When your kid comes home from school and you go buddy, right, there's just, you know, you could do better.
00:22:22
I know you better.
00:22:23
And that's the point is that if we didn't think Daniel Jones could be the future for this franchise and be the next you know 10 15 year starter for the Giants, we wouldn't care.
00:22:33
We would just say, Yeah, that's just have a mistake this guy makes We're waiting for the next quarterback to come in, but we don't feel that way like I am so angry when he does those things because I'm like, Oh, you do so many good things and you like, extend plays and you make 50 yard runs at the quarterback position like that's amazing.
00:22:50
And then, like just a momentary lapse in judgment, I'm like I'm angry because I care.
00:22:55
100% did it.
00:22:56
That's why it's so brutal.
00:22:57
And I think sometimes I get on with pessimistic Mike and he really starts brutalizing Daniel Jones and I'm always like No, no, listen, listen, listen.
00:23:04
Here's the thing, though. Here's why.
00:23:06
We don't you know I'm not going to send him to his room.
00:23:08
He's I'm obviously going to give him dinner.
00:23:10
Maybe no dessert tonight.
00:23:11
But no, he's still get, you know, Come on, buddy.
00:23:13
Because I wanted to do well on.
00:23:15
I don't want to be obviously even further behind the April from a franchise perspective and thinking we need to still get ourselves a quarterback.
00:23:22
We'll touch in a little bit more on that as the week moves along, obviously, and we'll look ahead on the short one to the Philly matchup.
00:23:28
Let's get over to, of course, what is becoming a very popular segment here, and that's, Oh, snap what we learned from the snap count on Sunday.
00:23:36
There's a nice ones here, and this will obviously tie back into something that happened in this game coming into it.
00:23:42
That was a bit of a shake up for the Giants on the offensive side of the ball.
00:23:45
We can start there.
00:23:46
Why not on the left tackle position, Matt Peart gets a start here for Big blue plays.
00:23:54
54% of the snap, so good for 26 snaps.
00:23:57
Here in this game, that's predicated on uh, Andrew Thomas being late to a meeting, Joe, Judge said after the game.
00:24:05
Listen, it's just, you know, I don't expect this to be a trend with him.
00:24:08
It's not anything egregious, but it was just We have policies in place and there are punishments for violating those policies, Thomas said.
00:24:15
Will never happen again.
00:24:16
Understands why it was the case.
00:24:18
So that's a big one, though.
00:24:20
And when you go inside the offense here, you saw a handful of place where, when Thomas was on the field, it resulted in quicker, more pressure, faster getting at Daniel Jones.
00:24:30
I don't know what you know Parts gonna look like in terms of how he rates out in this one.
00:24:34
He combined nicely with Hernandez and a couple of power runs as well, and it's something to keep an eye on here.
00:24:40
I don't know if this is, and now Pert needs to start at left tackle.
00:24:43
I'm not going that extreme, but I do love the sample size from Pert and I like that you were at least getting a sense of what he can be for us.
00:24:50
whatever that looks like going forward.
00:24:52
Well, so there was a couple of scouts, actually, early on in the draft process, said.
00:24:57
In an ideal world, your your future offensive line has Andrew Thomas at right tackle.
00:25:04
And that per at left tackle.
00:25:06
And the reason why is because Andrew Thomas uh, not necessarily as athletic as per his Per is a former basketball player.
00:25:13
He showed.
00:25:14
You know, that athleticism was on full display when when he got out there long arms, man, he he is a big boy.
00:25:21
Like you think Thomas's big, you see, Per you're like, Wow, he's like So they had they had a segment on S and Y or wherever they show it. You know, meet the Giants.
00:25:29
They were just charity work was fantastic.
00:25:30
It was Blake Martinez.
00:25:31
It was pert and they were interviewing them and they popped up on the screen.
00:25:35
And I'm talking like this dude broad as a barn, like he just looks enormous.
00:25:40
And it's the last thing you're supposed to be, you know, thinking about in terms off.
00:25:45
Oh, this guy's gonna be a great football player.
00:25:46
But I just saw that I was like, get that guy on the field, I I don't know what's gonna look.
00:25:50
Put him out there.
00:25:51
I need to see this dude just manhandling somebody.
00:25:54
Well, and the disciplinary action against Thomas might actually be a blessing in disguise in the long term future of the Giants, because you don't want to necessarily shake Andrew.
00:26:04
Thomas is confidence by Yank him off the field, saying that he's the problem, even though he's giving up the most pressures in the second most sacks in the in the league.
00:26:12
Um, but this gave us an opportunity to see what someone else would do in that position.
00:26:17
It gives him a wake up call to say there are other people on this roster that may be able to fill into these spots.
00:26:23
It also probably took the Washington football team by surprise.
00:26:26
They were expecting to see Thomas.
00:26:28
They know he's been over committing to the outside.
00:26:30
They were probably planning on doing some inside swim moves all of a sudden spurts out there, you're like, I don't even have that much tape on this guy.
00:26:35
Where do I go? And so it kind of was a blessing for the Giants to be ableto test someone else out there, get some reps for for you know, ah, young, promising player like per while also throwing the Washington football team's defense off just a little bit.
00:26:48
So, overall, I I thought that was interesting.
00:26:51
I thought, you know, as we got later in the game, I thought Thomas did settle in a little bit Mawr, which is good.
00:26:58
Um, you know, when the when the bench benches benchmark is not that high to begin with, you know, he performed adequately later on in the game, but it will be interesting to see what happens on Thursday does do they just automatically slot Andrew Thomas back in that left tackle position and say, Hey, this is a one off no big deal or do we see kind of an evolution of what this line is gonna look like? Yeah, I very quickly will say, I think when I stepped back, regardless of my personal opinion, we have debated this a long time.
00:27:26
I think the Giants, really coming into this year, wanted toe have Nate solder there at left tackle, and they wanted to have Camp Fleming at right tackle.
00:27:33
They want tohave to veterans with two rookies learning behind them and then seeing how that developed and making that decision at the right point of the season.
00:27:41
Especially when you think about some of those matchups that Andrew Thomas has had to take on early in the year.
00:27:44
So you know, right? Wrong, indifferent how I felt about it.
00:27:47
I think that that's the model they wanted to follow and then solder ops out.
00:27:51
We understand why that kind of changes the dynamic there, and all of a sudden you start to scramble and think, Well, then we put Fleming over there.
00:27:58
Do you know, how do we shuffle this if we don't start Thomas at left tackle? What are people going to say about that? Etcetera, etcetera.
00:28:03
So keep an eye on it, see how it develops.
00:28:05
And who knows, Maybe situational Lee.
00:28:07
We could see Pert still get utilized at left or right tackle because he did show the ability to adequate rate out of the gates there, coming into a starting opportunity and really having basically a split of the reps there with Thomas other quick notes around the snap counts.
00:28:21
Obviously, we highlighted this last time.
00:28:23
Tight end Evan Ingram played 81% of the snaps Kaden Smith almost up to 50% of those snaps now.
00:28:29
So we thought that this is kind of going to be where we're trending here.
00:28:32
Reducing his numbers a little bit, that is Evan Ingram and elevating some of the other tight ends.
00:28:37
Evan Ingram stays right in the same spot that he did from the week prior, but this is actually a little bump up another handful of reps for Kaden Smith.
00:28:44
And we've seen that value little dump off to the right side, able to scramble for eight yards.
00:28:48
Just make one guy miss.
00:28:49
Listen, he's not a super athlete, but he is agile and quick, and then also that big third down conversion.
00:28:54
So something's toe like there.
00:28:55
The other big news for me, of course, is going to be take Crowder elevated, obviously get to start here 85% of the snaps for him.
00:29:03
So your love, what you're getting there no pun intended in transition.
00:29:06
You also saw Julian Love get a huge number of reps there, 86% in this one as well.
00:29:13
So these guys were getting back onto the field here, which is really what you like to see, because again, we didn't know.
00:29:19
What does it look like for some of the younger players were not getting big sample sizes on Valentine anymore.
00:29:25
At those roles, he settled into having some chances.
00:29:27
They're on special teams, but I just like what I'm seeing overall here across the offensive, the defense's side of the ball, obviously, Mac out his first little taste there in this one as well.
00:29:36
And then that footnote that I mentioned offensively, Goldman just down to four snaps in this one.
00:29:41
So it looks like we're trending in the direction of it, really being the Devante Freeman show in that backfield and trying to build the offense in, off and around that, yeah, that the cave in Smith numbers are interesting, and they make me excited because whenever we see Kate and Smith snap count, go up generally to me.
00:29:59
What that relates to is the Giants ability to run the football and the Giants ability to be in the game.
00:30:05
You know, he's probably not going to see it as many sets with everything Graham on the field.
00:30:09
When the Giants need to throw the ball vertically, they're down two touchdowns and they're trying to make a comeback.
00:30:14
But if we're dictating how things were happening on the ground, then we're in a really good spot.
00:30:19
So, uh, to me, I'm really excited about seeing Kevin Smith numbers go up.
00:30:24
If he gets up to 60 65% it really does mean that the line is controlling the game and are rushing. Attack is working.
00:30:31
So if we could do that, that's a win for me.
00:30:33
You better believe it, man.
00:30:34
And we're gonna ****yze that a little bit Mawr in the middle of the week here, though, this is gonna be unique because we'll go right into our matchup preview and then our Friday show becomes our wrap up. It's gonna be weird.
00:30:42
It's a weird one.
00:30:43
On this Thursday night game, we'll get out the door here on this.
00:30:45
We highlighted it some disagreement over what the Giants were doing over the course of this one, By the way, on that scramble up the gut that Daniel Jones had, they got them down to the to where I think they could have gone for it.
00:30:57
There.
00:30:58
On fourth down, I would have said, Hey, your two yards out.
00:31:00
Let's try to get that touchdown from in close.
00:31:01
It was Andrew Thomas who is supposed Thio, as they described it on the broadcast.
00:31:05
Give a slap in the back to chase Young and then get up the field to help with the blocking.
00:31:10
Instead, he stays with Chase Young, one less offensive lineman blocking.
00:31:14
Maybe Jones gets automatically in there.
00:31:15
You didn't like the fourth down play from the 38.
00:31:18
They take a delay of game penalty, get a little more room on the punch, but you thought they should have gone for it there. I understand percentages.
00:31:24
Let's get a little more riverboat Ron and Joe Judge.
00:31:27
But But I think that from both an offensive play calling standpoint from Jason Garrett a lot of 18 runs for Devante Freeman.
00:31:34
I think the Giants saw this game even though it got closer than we anticipated.
00:31:38
I really think throughout the Giants thought just consistency and smart decision making.
00:31:42
Let's not put our defense potentially in a difficult spot with how well they're playing.
00:31:46
Let's avoid any of those big risks and allow our team to hopefully get a victory just by being smart right Yeah.
00:31:53
I mean, I didn't like that.
00:31:55
We took that delay of game instead of going forward on fourth down. The game was tied.
00:31:58
There was like, I don't know what was there like 99 minutes, 10 minutes left in the game.
00:32:01
It felt like if sometimes I feel like coaches are worried about the byproduct of their decision in terms of what people are going to think rather than trying to go win the game like a decision to not go for it there felt like Joe Judge was trying to not lose the game as opposed to go out and win the game, right? Like, don't make the critical mistake here that gives their Web skins the chance to win as opposed to our team, can get one yard in a critical situation to give us a significantly better chance to win.
00:32:32
If they get that fourth down.
00:32:34
They are in field goal range.
00:32:35
They are almost guaranteeing themselves points on the board to take the lead against the Redskins team in the fourth quarter.
00:32:41
So for me I looked at and I said, Man, we're just hoping to not lose the game now.
00:32:46
Granted, the Giants defense, dig exactly what Joe judge was hoping for, and and and got the ball back very quickly.
00:32:52
So that s so it ended up working out for the Giants.
00:32:55
But to me, I I do like, you know, coaches that are a little bit more aggressive.
00:32:58
I you know, you say about players, if players are gonna be really putting all that effort out there and they're going a million miles an hour and they're playing aggressive, you have no, you have no qualms at the end of the day saying, Oh, we lost the game or he couldn't get there.
00:33:10
He couldn't make the play.
00:33:11
At least we tried.
00:33:12
At least we're going for it.
00:33:14
The the only reason why I dismiss it a little bit is because we've seen them go for it on fourth down throughout the season already.
00:33:20
So I think Joe judge is willing to take those risks.
00:33:22
And again, I think he's allowing the game to dictate what he chooses to do there.
00:33:26
But I do get it right.
00:33:27
You want the aggressive play and I think as you move through the season, you may see that mawr as they get more confident the offensive line because we've seen some of those little Q B sneaks that have really looked disastrous or running plays.
00:33:37
So, you know, mitigating again.
00:33:39
What could be a big play if you get it could end up being a really black mark if it looks like an ugly couldn't quite figure it out offensively, right? But but think of it like this.
00:33:48
So the Redskins the what you think of it like this team.
00:33:51
The washing Washington Ft comes down and scores a touchdown with 25 30 seconds left on the clock and riverboat Ron says, Let's go win this game on the road like we've got nothing to lose like we are full steam ahead and the whole team is like, Yep, we're totally doing this.
00:34:07
And guess what? It did not work out.
00:34:09
They did not get the two point conversion, but no one today is waking up, saying Ron Rivera made the wrong decision.
00:34:16
He went out there was like I wanted to win this football game for our team and everyone sitting there going, Yeah, okay, fair, right, So, like, that's the type of decision that I like from a coach to say like I believe in my players were going for it and I will assume the consequences after that.
00:34:29
Ah, 100%.
00:34:30
The Washington football team are also looking to have the number one overall pick because they don't have a quarterback on their roster right now.
00:34:36
So you know there is that element of it.
00:34:37
I think if I want to go silver lining, the Giants still believe in Daniel Jones.
00:34:40
So they're more worried about winning games, which pivots quickly.
00:34:43
Here is we get out the door friends.
00:34:45
We really don't do a lot of posting over on Twitter during the game, because and and I just get pretty locked into it and we like to kind of just get lost for better or worse in the game action.
00:34:54
But I did check in with it just visually seeing what was going on over there.
00:34:57
I'm gonna tell you right now, either be on board with being a Giants fan and supporting the team or don't because I don't wanna have these conversations around.
00:35:06
Well, great job.
00:35:08
Yeah, you won the game and you just cost us Trevor Lawrence or throughout the game, checking in and being disastrous play there.
00:35:14
What is this particular player on defense thinking there? Why is he doing that? Then you get an interception in its That's my boy.
00:35:20
Look at that big play.
00:35:21
Great scoop by take Crowder or offensively.
00:35:24
Oh, Andrew Thomas is a disaster.
00:35:26
Nice block on that.
00:35:27
You know, I just I cannot stand the pendulum swing uses earlier.
00:35:32
I just can't stand the pendulum swinging fandom where guys that spend the entire game calling out everything they hate about the Giants.
00:35:39
And then on the back end of it go.
00:35:41
How about a heck, yeah, won the game.
00:35:43
You know, it's like, Dude, get off the train, man.
00:35:44
You want to tank and lose? Go for it.
00:35:46
But what I want every year, this is what I'm gonna approach it.
00:35:49
And you can say that's the wrong way in terms of building a roster.
00:35:52
I want the team to win games.
00:35:53
I want to see young players do well, and I want to feel good about the guys that we have on the roster.
00:35:58
That's the mentality that I have.
00:35:59
I know it's yours as well.
00:36:00
So it is the official o g p mentality.
00:36:03
I have zero energy for the way some people talk around the roster, be a fan and support the team.
00:36:09
Don't be.
00:36:10
Do not be the Johnny Bandwagon.
00:36:12
As things were going one direction or the other over the course off an hour of football, it's ridiculous.
00:36:18
And I wrote, I wrote, You know, I tweeted out last night.
00:36:21
Um, you know some fans, they're not gonna be happy with this wind, but I'm going to sleep very nicely.
00:36:27
I put my head down on the pillow and I said the team played hard.
00:36:30
They did what they needed to do to get a W.
00:36:32
And like my my life's motto is, take the winds when you could get him, like in anything in life, whether it's small or big.
00:36:38
This was a victory for the Giants.
00:36:39
They're starting to come together as a team.
00:36:41
Joe Judge got his first win.
00:36:43
If you're like the problem is, the people that are upset for the Giants winning the game are the people that if the Giants lost, they look terrible, would still be critical of the giant, and it's like, so what would you want the Giants to do? Do you want them to stink really, really bad, like the Jets are and bottom out and get zero points and have an absolutely miserable, miserable three months.
00:37:04
Or do you want them to show fight? See players that you want to build and develop and maybe be excited and happy on a Monday morning? Every now and then? Like I don't to me, it's crazy.
00:37:15
It's like, Yes, sacrifice a month, you know? Ah, whole entire season of being happy so we could get this guy Trevor Lawrence.
00:37:20
And it's like, Why can't you just watch the game root for the team instead of being the general manager and worried about who were drafting in in nine months? It's like it's crazy.
00:37:29
We're not even halfway through the season yet, right? The dress, their one game out of the playoffs.
00:37:34
I know no one wants to hear that.
00:37:35
I know nobody wants to hear that, But if the Giants go in and they beat Philadelphia and the Cowboys lose tonight, the Giants of the baby and all those fans there like fools gold, who cares all this different stuff? I don't care, because guess what? The numbers speak for themselves.
00:37:50
The Giants beat Tel Phia and the Cowboys lose tonight.
00:37:54
Monday Night Football.
00:37:55
The Giants are tied for the division.
00:37:57
I don't know how many different ways I could say it, and it just rubs people the wrong way.
00:38:01
They're like the two and five team shouldn't be leading division.
00:38:04
Get over it.
00:38:05
That's the division.
00:38:06
That's the issue.
00:38:08
That's what's happening right now and by the by the way it's been.
00:38:11
You heard it from the players after the game.
00:38:13
The energy, the excitement, like Joe just said it like, This is an important game for this team toe win because they've been working so hard.
00:38:19
And if you don't get that, then you start to lose the locker and then you start to lose players, then people start to check out.
00:38:23
Right then it gets even harder to find a way to continue to develop the talent and evaluate the talent and know what you have going into next year.
00:38:29
And what do you need in the draft class like all of those little details play out.
00:38:33
When you really put out the effort on Sunday and just across the stadium, you see a team that shipped off one of their defensive tackles last night because they are now in fire sale mode like That's not what I want from the Giants.
00:38:43
There's some pieces.
00:38:44
I wouldn't mind them moving, but I don't want to see them burning down the house here because I like the players that are on this team, and I believe that there is a nice baseline here for this team.
00:38:52
Tohave success.
00:38:53
Let's not trend negative.
00:38:54
You can follow us at one giant podcast.
00:38:56
You can use the hashtag o g P over on SportsCastr to find Both are live streams as well as our podcast episodes.
00:39:03
This was a great win.
00:39:04
The Giants get their first win of the season.
00:39:06
Joe Judge gets his first win as a head coach in the NFL, 22 19.
00:39:11
An enormous victory.
00:39:12
I'm excited.
00:39:13
I can't wait to see what happens tonight with the Dallas Cowboys, and even if they get the win, still take the W for Big Blue.
00:39:20
That's what it's about for us.
00:39:21
Every single week throughout the season, we shout out over there to Kitty Kathy, 55 to clutch sports media bears Paul and Silly Simon.
00:39:30
That's funny, Silly Simon.
00:39:32
Just enjoy yourself, kid.
00:39:33
Thanks for checking in on the Livestream.
00:39:35
We're doing this thing every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning.
00:39:38
We'll be back in on Wednesday, previewing the Thursday night game against Philadelphia until then, and a Markowitz wants needs and demands that, you know, as always, let's go big blue.
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The reason Joe Judge benched Giants’ 2020 1st-round pick Andrew Thomas

One of the biggest questions coming out of the New York Giants’ 20-19 win over the Washington Football Team is why first round draft pick Andrew Thomas was benched for the beginning of the game. The reason, however, shows what kind of head coach Joe Judge will be in the Big Apple. Speaking to the […]

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00:00:23
And with that, it's the Monday oh GP.
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Friends were, as always, I am Adam Arm Brecht and joined by the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andrew mega wits, I forgot how good it feels to wake up Monday morning and want to tune into sports talk radio.
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Want to check all the sports websites? It's been a long time, Adam and Man.
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I will take my victory lap today.
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You better believe it, sir.
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So obviously we come in.
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This is a long time waiting for New York Giants fans, and that's where we start, right? One giant recap with the Giants win over the Washington football team and there's, Ah, there's some reasons for maybe a bit of a victory lap, not just for the for Big Blue, but also for yours truly.
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Uh, walk us through it and we had our pregame.
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We talked about it on Social.
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We gave our predictions.
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I thought this one was going to be close.
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Had the Giants winning by a touchdown was I felt good.
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I feel like I was close to the mark here, and yet you darn near put that rate in the center of the bull's eye.
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It's like playing golf.
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Getting closest to the pin is what it feels like.
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You know, the one thing that I said Thio to recap the Our preview on Sunday.
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WAAS.
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We'll get a touchdown on offense, a touchdown on defense, a couple of field goals, and the Giants will escape with the win.
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And that's literally what the New York football Giants did.
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Um, you know, we highlighted the best profit that I thought of the day was.
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Will the Giants score a defensive touchdown? And you had asked me on our on our preview, Is it gonna be an interception? Is it gonna be a fumble? And I said, That's the beauty of Kyle Island being back there and a terrible offensive line is we kind of get a two for one.
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There's gonna be some kind of turnover.
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You know, Bradbury had an early interception.
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I was praying that he was gonna take that to the house and he got tackled before it.
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But oh, Kyle, Alan surely steps up and delivers for me later on in the game.
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It was a beaut, Man.
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Listen, there's so many so many positive things to take out of this game, but that specifically, we don't always hit it on the mark.
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But when you start to get a sense of the team and really the Cailin thought that you presented on the front end of this game, that was the key one because he looked pretty good and we'll get into some of that stuff here.
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But ultimately this is what you get with a player like that.
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He can do everything pretty well between the twenties and even when you get down to that red zone.
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But he's also going toe have a couple of these game changing plays, and that's really what we saw over the course off this one.
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So as we turn our page into some of the fine details here, where by the way, I was 24 17 calling for the Giants victory.
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So you know, I feel like Listen, I don't take a full lap.
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I pull a hammy like three quarters of the way around the track, but I still feel pretty good about what I said.
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You know, you're close.
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I mean, I mean, final score 20 and 19.
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Well, obviously Gettinto, how we got there and how much we love watching riverboat Ron.
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I mean that that Z I don't think there's a single giant fan that was that was sitting down when they decided to go for two.
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Like I think it is, like everyone in unison just raises up and staring at the TV standing there.
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I mean, I didn't even need to see you to know that that's what you were doing as well.
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I will say as we go into some of those key players on both sides of the ball for this game, there's there's some weird mentality.
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Whenever you watch, you ever see like head coaches on the sidelines, right? They always get their hands, always get like onto their knees and they're slightly crouched over.
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And it's like if I lean a little bit ****her out onto the field, I'm really going to get the the value of this next play that's coming up for my team.
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It happens to be a lot of times in the apartment, right, Like you start standing up kind of get that lien going on.
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You took the hat down a little bit lower and you say this is it, boys, Come on.
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And whatever weird uh, you know, whatever weird juju you put out there into the universe, I feel like you start to fall into those patterns.
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So yesterday, thankfully, for the most part, I kept myself Just relax on the sofa.
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Maybe I felt like, Oh, this is the one We should be winning easily, got a little tighter down the stretch and still able to pull it out.
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So let's start on.
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What I think we both agree is the biggest side of the football here for Big Blue.
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And that's the defensive side of things.
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Listen, we we've been highlighting this.
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I think around the NFL, the Giants defense is starting to get some or credit as the weeks go by.
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Is this the stiff his opponent to take on? Obviously not.
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But when you mention the play of Kyle Allen and where you think you can capitalize, you still have to go out there and make those big plays.
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And I think we really saw it from the front seven in the linebacking corps.
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And then, of course, in the secondary as well.
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When you walk through this one of the big plays you loved and what are some of those even individual matchups that we highlighted pregame that played themselves out here on Sunday? Well, I mean, our linebacking corps ended up really delivering, you know, it's tough with, you know, Lorenzo Carter being out.
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Um, you know, examine as being out.
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You kind of look to say, who's gonna be the player that was going to step up and and man did take crowd or step up.
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He played excellent.
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Um, you know, even outside of the fumble recovery on the Cairo Kyler fackrell, uh, sack fumble that he had against Kyle Island, take Crowder had 10 tackles.
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He was all over the field.
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We knew that we were going to get a huge game from someone like Blake Martinez.
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He had 14 total tackles.
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He was all over the field as well.
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Um, Leonard Williams was getting in the backfield with consistency, and, you know, not not to steal all the thunder, but I mean, is it safe to say that James Bradberry might be the best cornerback? We're playing the best football of any cornerback in the league right now? Yeah, Let's see.
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Coming into this game, he was top five in the league at the cornerback position rating out as we sometimes throw out this reference point of pro football focus.
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85 in the game.
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So you go back to the week prior and we had talked about where was the disappearing act from a Marty Cooper? Well, that was specifically around the work that James Bradbury was doing.
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I will just briefly say to you mentioned some of those names that were in there.
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One of the tip of the hat I want to give out is to Blake Martinez, who looked like on one play, a Zeiss, a doctor arm break here, pull like a peck muscle or something look like he overextended himself on a tackle.
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I got really concerned, Riel quick that we weren't maybe going to see him on the field throughout this game.
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And I just like the toughness, the grittiness that he brought to it by showing up, getting himself back out there, even though he took off a handful of plays, Mayo came in in relief of him and then really got himself again right back out there.
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Got the job done, so I appreciated that.
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But from a Bradbury standpoint, we said, unlike Dallas, the big weapon here for Washington is obviously McLaurin.
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You want to be able to shut him down and force quote the others to beat you up.
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And now listen, coming into you said Right 70 I think, was the over under for Terry McLaurin, in terms of yards did get to 74 on seven catches, but very much was mitigated.
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And, by the way, Washington.
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So if you're thinking well, is that stat line that Bradbury suffered? No, Washington actually made a real concerted effort to try to get him anywhere on the field except lined up against Bradbury.
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So this is now becoming a key matchup for opposing offenses to see, acknowledge and then say, How are we going to mitigate losing arguably one of our best weapons? How do we put him in a different position? Has some success.
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And that's nice, man, because on a game to game, week to week basis, when you can dictate some things to the other team, that's how you start to get a team out of their rhythm.
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And that's what we have in Bradbury.
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Now We have a guy that coming into a game, they say, Okay, how do we scheme and and get McLaurin somewhere else.
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And as soon as you do that, you're asking your offense to do something different than they normally maybe Dio you hit the nail on the head the second that you can apply pressure so that a team doesn't have all of their options available going into a game, you start moving them down a path that you want them to go.
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It's like, you know, when Dak was healthy for the Dallas Cowboys, they know that they're gonna be able to throw the ball all around.
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No one's gonna stop there passing attack.
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So you have tow as a defense.
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Think about how you're gonna handle them.
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You know, for the Giants, having Bradbury, like you said, they all of a sudden take half of the playbook for Terry McLaurin, and they have toe kind of put it to the side and say That's not a priority, because we just can't have him going up against Bradbury.
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Every play will be losing one of our best assets.
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And I think, um, you know, in terms of targets thrown towards Bradbury, I think there was only like, a couple of catches for like 15 yards when it was thrown in his direction.
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Oh, and by the way, he also had an interception in this game.
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So he has been awesome.
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He has been wonderful.
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Logan, Ryan.
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What a great signing he has been.
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He has really helped solidify that back end.
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You know, we're going into this with, you know, McKinney getting hurt, Beal opting out and all these different things happening in the secondary.
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He has really looked great in terms of solidifying that back peace.
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And he's the type of player that is not a one year deal that I think likes playing in New York hometown guy.
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I could see him resigning for a couple of different years to stick around during this kind of rebuild transformation the Giants are going through.
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Yeah, I wanted to get those stats up on Bradbury.
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Unfortunately, can't get those individual game logs right now on the advanced metrics for him.
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But what you can say about him is that so far in this season, he's been targeted 30 times, surrendered just 17 completions of 56%.
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So he's done a really nice job there, 13% on the missed tackles.
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We talked about bringing that number consistently down.
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But I like what he's doing so far and now and by the way, is also on.
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Lee surrendered two touchdowns to this point of the season, seven yards per target, so I kept everything in front of them.
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Will come back in on Wednesday and clean up that stat for you, just in terms of what he surrendered in this game and how Washington was forced to look other places in order to accomplish that.
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Um, elsewhere on the defense was there any other big players that jumped out of you? Obviously, we saw love gets, um, or snaps in this game.
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He does get, you know, the touchdowns against him.
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You and I talked about it in real time.
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That boy you'd like to see him get.
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Just get his head around.
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I think is really what you're looking for their because, even though they say it's almost like a foot disparity between target and defender.
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As I said it to you, he didn't really at the elevate, though.
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This ball was thrown nicely, but it was in a spot inside shoulder, and if love gets his head around, he could do that, but still nice to see him out there on the field, indicating Maybe defensively.
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Patrick Graham is just saying Hey, week to week matchup to match up.
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We're still going to get in some of these guys.
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So happy to see he hasn't fallen into, Let's say, the valentine category right where you're special teamers and you're really not going to see a lot of time on defense.
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Yeah, that love play was tough because Kyle Alan did throw an amazing ball like that.
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That is, it was feathered in there.
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So, you know, while we would like to see Julian, you know, turn around, maybe get a hand on and break that one up, you know, kudos toe.
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You know the offense for running a better play.
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The last thing I'll say on the defensive side of the ball is we were also able to stop the run.
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We were effective against the run game, you know, the Washington football team on Lee had 3.
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5 yards per carry.
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Eso when When you start dictating them and saying Kyle needs to beat us as we talked about before.
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That's where these mistakes come in where you get him in, you know, long, long distance situations.
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Throws the interception, makes critical mistakes while he's getting sacked.
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And ultimately, it's the reason why the Giants came out on top.
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Yeah, love to play from Letter Williams as well, and also really loved the effectiveness of Dexter Lawrence, especially on the two point conversion attempt.
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There at the end of this one, with 36 seconds to go where he manages ***y Dex, he managed to get himself out on the edge and just keep the quarterback from being able to get forward a little bit and make that choice about maybe I want to scamper forward and run for this thing.
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He does just enough with that big body to shift it to the outside and forced Allen to try to find a target.
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And obviously, it comes up short there in the end zone and River wrote, Ron sends with love a victory to Big Blue.
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Let's hope our attention quickly over here to the offensive side of the ball.
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We're obviously we're talking about a bit of a pendulum swing here, right? We don't know what we're getting.
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Still the lovely for me.
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These are the obvious ones.
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Beautiful touch pass over the top from Daniel Jones to Darius latent on that touchdown play.
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We know that slate in dealing with the foot injury, basically popped onto this field for handful of blaze.
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And when he did, they were big catches for big chain moving yardage.
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So that was really nice to see.
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And now you still hope that he's okay coming out of it.
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Thea other side, obviously, is the offensive line keeping Chase Young off the back of Daniel Jones.
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What did you like here and just what you know, where's the murkiness where we still trying to figure some things out offensively, but sing the praises first cause that's what we want this Monday morning.
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Too big.
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So Daniel Jones, with his feet that run that he had, was awesome.
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You know, Daniel Jones ended up being our leading Russia, I believe again, which probably not the best thing in the world, but seven for 74 yards.
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This is the type of offense that I want to run with Daniel Jones.
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I want him to use his legs to make plays, and obviously it was 49 yard run down the sideline that that was the catalyst of that.
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But even outside of that, he still had 25 other yards rushing, which is great if we could get Daniel Jones.
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You know, over 30 yards rushing, 40 yards rushing in a game that shows that we're bringing a different dynamic.
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You know, the other piece of it is while it doesn't show up on the stat sheet, I thought Devonta Freeman looked really good running the football like he was making some different jump cuts.
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He was getting the yards when we needed them.
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He only ended up having about 60 65 yards, and it was about 3.
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5 yards to carry the same that Washington did.
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But it just felt like he was picking up first downs or making you know, good place, falling forward, giving three offense and opportunity could continue to move the ball, whereas before we're kind of getting you know, two or three yard losses were not being able to do anything during the Russian attack, and that really makes Daniel Jones put in a tough position.
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Yeah, for sure.
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You know, we were saying coming into this I thought maybe a little more weighing Goldman because we've seen the uptick in terms of them being on the field.
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But I think what we really got here was just the identity of saying What we want is consistency.
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And even though we've like Goldman over the years, we also know he hasn't been a consistent back.
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That's why hasn't found more snaps.
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So as Freeman continues to find his rhythm in this offense, it's just nice to go to give him the ball, know that you're going to get those 3 to 4 yards, had a long of 14.
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Like you said 18 for 61.
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It's nothing to write home about but touching back on what you said it with Daniel Jones there.
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You know, I I think that when you say 30 yards a game, listen, I think that that number could even move a little bit higher than that.
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I know there's the enormous play where, by the way, the camera man gets totally thrown off there in the in the live game action where I couldn't those e Yeah, I was waiting for him to say Boy, and Freeman gets blown up in the back in the backfield there because they just held on him.
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He got tackled and then all of a sudden they just shoved this camera upfield.
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And you just see Daniel Jones like a gazelle sprinting down the sideline before he gets taken down.
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There's another great number of great plays like that, though.
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Ran up the gut on a Q B draw in the red zone that got him down to the to you know.
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So I think these designed runs air, hopefully going to continue to be the evolution of this offense with Daniel Jones.
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And like you say, he ends up giving you 74 yards.
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And if you want to go all purpose here, then it makes this stat line look a little bit better for you.
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Because, unfortunately, Daniel Jones in this one on Lee through for what is that final number end up being 112 yards? He completed 12 passes.
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He three completed 12 passes in the game and the Giants won.
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I thought that going into the season, there was not a single instance where if you told me that Dale Jones is gonna complete 12 passes, that we would win a game and here we are well and again, Soto highlight even further.
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The value of Darius Slaten is, you know he was had four targets, two receptions, 41 yards and a touchdown.
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The 23 yard touchdown there obviously came off of Daniel Jones, but that second play was to move the chains on a third down, right, and you're still talking about an 18 yard pass play there to Darius later outside of that, when you go in the numbers, Jones spread the ball around, quote unquote, often back got his first catch for a glorious one yard.
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But then, you know, single catch for board.
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Single catch for Dion Lewis.
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Golden Tate.
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Just one for 11 3 catches for Kate and Smith.
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And one of those came on a key third down in the red zone on better, I think.
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Third and three there that he converted and then two for Evan Ingram had that nice, long, 21 yard pass play early.
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But you know, in terms of playmakers, we know we want Evan Ingram to be that that's what you're supposed to dio.
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But, boy, we're just not getting the consistency from anywhere else than specifically Darius Slaten.
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Uh, you know, So it's hard to look at them and say, You know, where is Daniel Jones supposed to be looking in these situations? Even on a day one.
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For the most part, the offensive line, which experienced a wrinkle in their lineup as well, played pretty good and mitigated.
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Ah, front seven for the for the Washington football team that has, I think, five first round picks there across the front, and I'll throw out Andy before you dive in with this key stat coming into it.
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99 pressures.
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The Giants have surrendered onto Daniel Jones over those first five weeks.
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They gave up just five here in week number six.
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They were averaging almost 20 pressures a game to start this season.
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So they really clean things up across the offensive line to give Daniel Jones to give Freeman some opportunity to at least be consistent and move this ball.
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You know, after looking at the recap and just seeing where what happened with our wide receiving corps, you know, we already talked about the good.
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Let me talk about the bad.
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Now, you know, you look at what CJ boards injury was really tough to watch you know, reports are coming back relatively positive, Um, in terms of his health and his updates.
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So we really do hope C J board gets better as soon as possible.
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Um, you look it automatically did drop pass interference penalty on a critical play down in the red zone, which helped the Giants put some points on the board.
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But one catch for board, one catch for tape, one catch for Mac.
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This is just so glaring to me how much this team is missing.
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Sterling Shepard.
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And you know, people have different opinions on whether or not he's a number.
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One should be paid this much.
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He's a slot receiver.
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None of that matters when you look at those stats and say, outside of Darius Leighton are wide receiving corps called three balls.
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And we need someone else out there that Daniel Jones can turn Thio.
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And not not all of this is necessarily on on the wide receivers themselves.
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They're trying to make plays, but on Lee, 19 total passes in the game because the run game was going.
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We just need Sterling Shepard back as soon as possible to give Daniel Jones another compliment because Golden Tate is just, but it's alarming how quickly it feels like it's falling off a cliff for him, where you know you're surprised if he gets three catches in the game now.
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Yeah, and when you think ahead to that Thursday and matchup right short, weak for the Giant's obviously and Slaten looking like he could very well use a night off. Potentially.
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And I love the gutsiness of him in this game because it's probably, uh, bar, you know, barring I he's the reason they won this game like outside of obviously the big defensive plays.
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But I don't I think if you don't have him on the field, then you're just talking about Daniel Johnson to run for 150 yards because you're not gonna be able to move the ball through the air.
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Imagine Thursday night.
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No CJ board. He's still out.
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Obviously, Darius Leighton says my ankle isn't isn't feeling too well.
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Then we don't even know Sterling Shepard is still going to be activated and come off of IR.
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Yet you're talking about only having Austin Mack and and what else on the roster at that point, like we Golden Tate, that that's it like you have those two active wide receiver.
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So the Giants are gonna have some decisions, and we'll go through that on Wednesday.
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Um, show just about what the Giants going to do with the wide receiver position, but it's starting to be an area of area of concern.
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The last thing I will say about the offense is while Daniel Jones look good on the ground, he needs to stop making these mistakes in the red zone.
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Daniel Jones cannot be throwing balls up from the 10 yard line and just giving away free interceptions.
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And people say, Oh, those his arm got hit.
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It was a little bit of, you know, wonky like no other quarterbacks are not making these critical mistakes with the same frequency that Daniel Jones is.
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So whether his arm is getting hit or not, then he's got to tuck the ball, take the sack and take and take the three points.
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He cannot be turning it over and giving up these red zone opportunities.
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It's inexcusable anymore.
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And while we do feel positive about the Giants getting a W here, that to me was the worst part of Daniel Jones game and he's still not showing progress there.
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Yeah, Listen, we still are on the Daniel Jones train.
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You know, it, Z slowing down.
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It hasn't.
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It's not nearly get into its destination as quickly as we thought it would, but there's still so many positive things.
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And when you look at the lack of receiving corn you talk about well, once Darius Layton isn't in the game, you see how things really fall apart around Daniel Jones.
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So you understand.
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Hey, the weapons collection of weapons here just isn't what we thought it was going to be.
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Obviously, Barkley getting injured doesn't help that situation, either.
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But in these plays, right, you could go micro and say, Well, as he rolls out, you can see he wants to throw the ball away, and he just doesn't realize it doesn't quite have enough time to **** that arm back and get it out of the end zone.
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That's fine, right? You can ****yze the play itself, but then, when you pull it back to your point, the macro is.
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But this keeps happening with some consistency, right? Happened in Week one happens here in week six, so at some point you just have to look at and say Listen, I don't know what the better version off this is whether it's taking the sack right, pulling it down sooner and running.
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There's a lot of other options you have there, but if if you're throwing the ball out of the end zone, you better be throwing it out of the end zone.
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And even though in real time you and I discussed right you said terrible play, even though it's going to get overturned and I said It's just before they came back like, Oh, it's not getting overturned, man.
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What? You know the NFL is fickle in this way, and I understand it.
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But when that call is made on the field, they really get into the weeds on if I can, 100% overturn this thing with cer*****y.
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It's going to stand.
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So even though we all agree elbow touch right down on the white, etcetera.
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It's a bang bang, hair splitting blade of grass kind of play.
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So it ends up standing and it shouldn't even exist right.
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That place should not exist because Daniel Jones needs to make a better choice.
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Ah, better decision, a quicker decision in that scenario and you said it best the reason we're angry because we care and you know, I mean, like like, is that bad report card? When your kid comes home from school and you go buddy, right, there's just, you know, you could do better.
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I know you better.
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And that's the point is that if we didn't think Daniel Jones could be the future for this franchise and be the next you know 10 15 year starter for the Giants, we wouldn't care.
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We would just say, Yeah, that's just have a mistake this guy makes We're waiting for the next quarterback to come in, but we don't feel that way like I am so angry when he does those things because I'm like, Oh, you do so many good things and you like, extend plays and you make 50 yard runs at the quarterback position like that's amazing.
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And then, like just a momentary lapse in judgment, I'm like I'm angry because I care.
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100% did it.
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That's why it's so brutal.
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And I think sometimes I get on with pessimistic Mike and he really starts brutalizing Daniel Jones and I'm always like No, no, listen, listen, listen.
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Here's the thing, though. Here's why.
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We don't you know I'm not going to send him to his room.
00:23:08
He's I'm obviously going to give him dinner.
00:23:10
Maybe no dessert tonight.
00:23:11
But no, he's still get, you know, Come on, buddy.
00:23:13
Because I wanted to do well on.
00:23:15
I don't want to be obviously even further behind the April from a franchise perspective and thinking we need to still get ourselves a quarterback.
00:23:22
We'll touch in a little bit more on that as the week moves along, obviously, and we'll look ahead on the short one to the Philly matchup.
00:23:28
Let's get over to, of course, what is becoming a very popular segment here, and that's, Oh, snap what we learned from the snap count on Sunday.
00:23:36
There's a nice ones here, and this will obviously tie back into something that happened in this game coming into it.
00:23:42
That was a bit of a shake up for the Giants on the offensive side of the ball.
00:23:45
We can start there.
00:23:46
Why not on the left tackle position, Matt Peart gets a start here for Big blue plays.
00:23:54
54% of the snap, so good for 26 snaps.
00:23:57
Here in this game, that's predicated on uh, Andrew Thomas being late to a meeting, Joe, Judge said after the game.
00:24:05
Listen, it's just, you know, I don't expect this to be a trend with him.
00:24:08
It's not anything egregious, but it was just We have policies in place and there are punishments for violating those policies, Thomas said.
00:24:15
Will never happen again.
00:24:16
Understands why it was the case.
00:24:18
So that's a big one, though.
00:24:20
And when you go inside the offense here, you saw a handful of place where, when Thomas was on the field, it resulted in quicker, more pressure, faster getting at Daniel Jones.
00:24:30
I don't know what you know Parts gonna look like in terms of how he rates out in this one.
00:24:34
He combined nicely with Hernandez and a couple of power runs as well, and it's something to keep an eye on here.
00:24:40
I don't know if this is, and now Pert needs to start at left tackle.
00:24:43
I'm not going that extreme, but I do love the sample size from Pert and I like that you were at least getting a sense of what he can be for us.
00:24:50
whatever that looks like going forward.
00:24:52
Well, so there was a couple of scouts, actually, early on in the draft process, said.
00:24:57
In an ideal world, your your future offensive line has Andrew Thomas at right tackle.
00:25:04
And that per at left tackle.
00:25:06
And the reason why is because Andrew Thomas uh, not necessarily as athletic as per his Per is a former basketball player.
00:25:13
He showed.
00:25:14
You know, that athleticism was on full display when when he got out there long arms, man, he he is a big boy.
00:25:21
Like you think Thomas's big, you see, Per you're like, Wow, he's like So they had they had a segment on S and Y or wherever they show it. You know, meet the Giants.
00:25:29
They were just charity work was fantastic.
00:25:30
It was Blake Martinez.
00:25:31
It was pert and they were interviewing them and they popped up on the screen.
00:25:35
And I'm talking like this dude broad as a barn, like he just looks enormous.
00:25:40
And it's the last thing you're supposed to be, you know, thinking about in terms off.
00:25:45
Oh, this guy's gonna be a great football player.
00:25:46
But I just saw that I was like, get that guy on the field, I I don't know what's gonna look.
00:25:50
Put him out there.
00:25:51
I need to see this dude just manhandling somebody.
00:25:54
Well, and the disciplinary action against Thomas might actually be a blessing in disguise in the long term future of the Giants, because you don't want to necessarily shake Andrew.
00:26:04
Thomas is confidence by Yank him off the field, saying that he's the problem, even though he's giving up the most pressures in the second most sacks in the in the league.
00:26:12
Um, but this gave us an opportunity to see what someone else would do in that position.
00:26:17
It gives him a wake up call to say there are other people on this roster that may be able to fill into these spots.
00:26:23
It also probably took the Washington football team by surprise.
00:26:26
They were expecting to see Thomas.
00:26:28
They know he's been over committing to the outside.
00:26:30
They were probably planning on doing some inside swim moves all of a sudden spurts out there, you're like, I don't even have that much tape on this guy.
00:26:35
Where do I go? And so it kind of was a blessing for the Giants to be ableto test someone else out there, get some reps for for you know, ah, young, promising player like per while also throwing the Washington football team's defense off just a little bit.
00:26:48
So, overall, I I thought that was interesting.
00:26:51
I thought, you know, as we got later in the game, I thought Thomas did settle in a little bit Mawr, which is good.
00:26:58
Um, you know, when the when the bench benches benchmark is not that high to begin with, you know, he performed adequately later on in the game, but it will be interesting to see what happens on Thursday does do they just automatically slot Andrew Thomas back in that left tackle position and say, Hey, this is a one off no big deal or do we see kind of an evolution of what this line is gonna look like? Yeah, I very quickly will say, I think when I stepped back, regardless of my personal opinion, we have debated this a long time.
00:27:26
I think the Giants, really coming into this year, wanted toe have Nate solder there at left tackle, and they wanted to have Camp Fleming at right tackle.
00:27:33
They want tohave to veterans with two rookies learning behind them and then seeing how that developed and making that decision at the right point of the season.
00:27:41
Especially when you think about some of those matchups that Andrew Thomas has had to take on early in the year.
00:27:44
So you know, right? Wrong, indifferent how I felt about it.
00:27:47
I think that that's the model they wanted to follow and then solder ops out.
00:27:51
We understand why that kind of changes the dynamic there, and all of a sudden you start to scramble and think, Well, then we put Fleming over there.
00:27:58
Do you know, how do we shuffle this if we don't start Thomas at left tackle? What are people going to say about that? Etcetera, etcetera.
00:28:03
So keep an eye on it, see how it develops.
00:28:05
And who knows, Maybe situational Lee.
00:28:07
We could see Pert still get utilized at left or right tackle because he did show the ability to adequate rate out of the gates there, coming into a starting opportunity and really having basically a split of the reps there with Thomas other quick notes around the snap counts.
00:28:21
Obviously, we highlighted this last time.
00:28:23
Tight end Evan Ingram played 81% of the snaps Kaden Smith almost up to 50% of those snaps now.
00:28:29
So we thought that this is kind of going to be where we're trending here.
00:28:32
Reducing his numbers a little bit, that is Evan Ingram and elevating some of the other tight ends.
00:28:37
Evan Ingram stays right in the same spot that he did from the week prior, but this is actually a little bump up another handful of reps for Kaden Smith.
00:28:44
And we've seen that value little dump off to the right side, able to scramble for eight yards.
00:28:48
Just make one guy miss.
00:28:49
Listen, he's not a super athlete, but he is agile and quick, and then also that big third down conversion.
00:28:54
So something's toe like there.
00:28:55
The other big news for me, of course, is going to be take Crowder elevated, obviously get to start here 85% of the snaps for him.
00:29:03
So your love, what you're getting there no pun intended in transition.
00:29:06
You also saw Julian Love get a huge number of reps there, 86% in this one as well.
00:29:13
So these guys were getting back onto the field here, which is really what you like to see, because again, we didn't know.
00:29:19
What does it look like for some of the younger players were not getting big sample sizes on Valentine anymore.
00:29:25
At those roles, he settled into having some chances.
00:29:27
They're on special teams, but I just like what I'm seeing overall here across the offensive, the defense's side of the ball, obviously, Mac out his first little taste there in this one as well.
00:29:36
And then that footnote that I mentioned offensively, Goldman just down to four snaps in this one.
00:29:41
So it looks like we're trending in the direction of it, really being the Devante Freeman show in that backfield and trying to build the offense in, off and around that, yeah, that the cave in Smith numbers are interesting, and they make me excited because whenever we see Kate and Smith snap count, go up generally to me.
00:29:59
What that relates to is the Giants ability to run the football and the Giants ability to be in the game.
00:30:05
You know, he's probably not going to see it as many sets with everything Graham on the field.
00:30:09
When the Giants need to throw the ball vertically, they're down two touchdowns and they're trying to make a comeback.
00:30:14
But if we're dictating how things were happening on the ground, then we're in a really good spot.
00:30:19
So, uh, to me, I'm really excited about seeing Kevin Smith numbers go up.
00:30:24
If he gets up to 60 65% it really does mean that the line is controlling the game and are rushing. Attack is working.
00:30:31
So if we could do that, that's a win for me.
00:30:33
You better believe it, man.
00:30:34
And we're gonna ****yze that a little bit Mawr in the middle of the week here, though, this is gonna be unique because we'll go right into our matchup preview and then our Friday show becomes our wrap up. It's gonna be weird.
00:30:42
It's a weird one.
00:30:43
On this Thursday night game, we'll get out the door here on this.
00:30:45
We highlighted it some disagreement over what the Giants were doing over the course of this one, By the way, on that scramble up the gut that Daniel Jones had, they got them down to the to where I think they could have gone for it.
00:30:57
There.
00:30:58
On fourth down, I would have said, Hey, your two yards out.
00:31:00
Let's try to get that touchdown from in close.
00:31:01
It was Andrew Thomas who is supposed Thio, as they described it on the broadcast.
00:31:05
Give a slap in the back to chase Young and then get up the field to help with the blocking.
00:31:10
Instead, he stays with Chase Young, one less offensive lineman blocking.
00:31:14
Maybe Jones gets automatically in there.
00:31:15
You didn't like the fourth down play from the 38.
00:31:18
They take a delay of game penalty, get a little more room on the punch, but you thought they should have gone for it there. I understand percentages.
00:31:24
Let's get a little more riverboat Ron and Joe Judge.
00:31:27
But But I think that from both an offensive play calling standpoint from Jason Garrett a lot of 18 runs for Devante Freeman.
00:31:34
I think the Giants saw this game even though it got closer than we anticipated.
00:31:38
I really think throughout the Giants thought just consistency and smart decision making.
00:31:42
Let's not put our defense potentially in a difficult spot with how well they're playing.
00:31:46
Let's avoid any of those big risks and allow our team to hopefully get a victory just by being smart right Yeah.
00:31:53
I mean, I didn't like that.
00:31:55
We took that delay of game instead of going forward on fourth down. The game was tied.
00:31:58
There was like, I don't know what was there like 99 minutes, 10 minutes left in the game.
00:32:01
It felt like if sometimes I feel like coaches are worried about the byproduct of their decision in terms of what people are going to think rather than trying to go win the game like a decision to not go for it there felt like Joe Judge was trying to not lose the game as opposed to go out and win the game, right? Like, don't make the critical mistake here that gives their Web skins the chance to win as opposed to our team, can get one yard in a critical situation to give us a significantly better chance to win.
00:32:32
If they get that fourth down.
00:32:34
They are in field goal range.
00:32:35
They are almost guaranteeing themselves points on the board to take the lead against the Redskins team in the fourth quarter.
00:32:41
So for me I looked at and I said, Man, we're just hoping to not lose the game now.
00:32:46
Granted, the Giants defense, dig exactly what Joe judge was hoping for, and and and got the ball back very quickly.
00:32:52
So that s so it ended up working out for the Giants.
00:32:55
But to me, I I do like, you know, coaches that are a little bit more aggressive.
00:32:58
I you know, you say about players, if players are gonna be really putting all that effort out there and they're going a million miles an hour and they're playing aggressive, you have no, you have no qualms at the end of the day saying, Oh, we lost the game or he couldn't get there.
00:33:10
He couldn't make the play.
00:33:11
At least we tried.
00:33:12
At least we're going for it.
00:33:14
The the only reason why I dismiss it a little bit is because we've seen them go for it on fourth down throughout the season already.
00:33:20
So I think Joe judge is willing to take those risks.
00:33:22
And again, I think he's allowing the game to dictate what he chooses to do there.
00:33:26
But I do get it right.
00:33:27
You want the aggressive play and I think as you move through the season, you may see that mawr as they get more confident the offensive line because we've seen some of those little Q B sneaks that have really looked disastrous or running plays.
00:33:37
So, you know, mitigating again.
00:33:39
What could be a big play if you get it could end up being a really black mark if it looks like an ugly couldn't quite figure it out offensively, right? But but think of it like this.
00:33:48
So the Redskins the what you think of it like this team.
00:33:51
The washing Washington Ft comes down and scores a touchdown with 25 30 seconds left on the clock and riverboat Ron says, Let's go win this game on the road like we've got nothing to lose like we are full steam ahead and the whole team is like, Yep, we're totally doing this.
00:34:07
And guess what? It did not work out.
00:34:09
They did not get the two point conversion, but no one today is waking up, saying Ron Rivera made the wrong decision.
00:34:16
He went out there was like I wanted to win this football game for our team and everyone sitting there going, Yeah, okay, fair, right, So, like, that's the type of decision that I like from a coach to say like I believe in my players were going for it and I will assume the consequences after that.
00:34:29
Ah, 100%.
00:34:30
The Washington football team are also looking to have the number one overall pick because they don't have a quarterback on their roster right now.
00:34:36
So you know there is that element of it.
00:34:37
I think if I want to go silver lining, the Giants still believe in Daniel Jones.
00:34:40
So they're more worried about winning games, which pivots quickly.
00:34:43
Here is we get out the door friends.
00:34:45
We really don't do a lot of posting over on Twitter during the game, because and and I just get pretty locked into it and we like to kind of just get lost for better or worse in the game action.
00:34:54
But I did check in with it just visually seeing what was going on over there.
00:34:57
I'm gonna tell you right now, either be on board with being a Giants fan and supporting the team or don't because I don't wanna have these conversations around.
00:35:06
Well, great job.
00:35:08
Yeah, you won the game and you just cost us Trevor Lawrence or throughout the game, checking in and being disastrous play there.
00:35:14
What is this particular player on defense thinking there? Why is he doing that? Then you get an interception in its That's my boy.
00:35:20
Look at that big play.
00:35:21
Great scoop by take Crowder or offensively.
00:35:24
Oh, Andrew Thomas is a disaster.
00:35:26
Nice block on that.
00:35:27
You know, I just I cannot stand the pendulum swing uses earlier.
00:35:32
I just can't stand the pendulum swinging fandom where guys that spend the entire game calling out everything they hate about the Giants.
00:35:39
And then on the back end of it go.
00:35:41
How about a heck, yeah, won the game.
00:35:43
You know, it's like, Dude, get off the train, man.
00:35:44
You want to tank and lose? Go for it.
00:35:46
But what I want every year, this is what I'm gonna approach it.
00:35:49
And you can say that's the wrong way in terms of building a roster.
00:35:52
I want the team to win games.
00:35:53
I want to see young players do well, and I want to feel good about the guys that we have on the roster.
00:35:58
That's the mentality that I have.
00:35:59
I know it's yours as well.
00:36:00
So it is the official o g p mentality.
00:36:03
I have zero energy for the way some people talk around the roster, be a fan and support the team.
00:36:09
Don't be.
00:36:10
Do not be the Johnny Bandwagon.
00:36:12
As things were going one direction or the other over the course off an hour of football, it's ridiculous.
00:36:18
And I wrote, I wrote, You know, I tweeted out last night.
00:36:21
Um, you know some fans, they're not gonna be happy with this wind, but I'm going to sleep very nicely.
00:36:27
I put my head down on the pillow and I said the team played hard.
00:36:30
They did what they needed to do to get a W.
00:36:32
And like my my life's motto is, take the winds when you could get him, like in anything in life, whether it's small or big.
00:36:38
This was a victory for the Giants.
00:36:39
They're starting to come together as a team.
00:36:41
Joe Judge got his first win.
00:36:43
If you're like the problem is, the people that are upset for the Giants winning the game are the people that if the Giants lost, they look terrible, would still be critical of the giant, and it's like, so what would you want the Giants to do? Do you want them to stink really, really bad, like the Jets are and bottom out and get zero points and have an absolutely miserable, miserable three months.
00:37:04
Or do you want them to show fight? See players that you want to build and develop and maybe be excited and happy on a Monday morning? Every now and then? Like I don't to me, it's crazy.
00:37:15
It's like, Yes, sacrifice a month, you know? Ah, whole entire season of being happy so we could get this guy Trevor Lawrence.
00:37:20
And it's like, Why can't you just watch the game root for the team instead of being the general manager and worried about who were drafting in in nine months? It's like it's crazy.
00:37:29
We're not even halfway through the season yet, right? The dress, their one game out of the playoffs.
00:37:34
I know no one wants to hear that.
00:37:35
I know nobody wants to hear that, But if the Giants go in and they beat Philadelphia and the Cowboys lose tonight, the Giants of the baby and all those fans there like fools gold, who cares all this different stuff? I don't care, because guess what? The numbers speak for themselves.
00:37:50
The Giants beat Tel Phia and the Cowboys lose tonight.
00:37:54
Monday Night Football.
00:37:55
The Giants are tied for the division.
00:37:57
I don't know how many different ways I could say it, and it just rubs people the wrong way.
00:38:01
They're like the two and five team shouldn't be leading division.
00:38:04
Get over it.
00:38:05
That's the division.
00:38:06
That's the issue.
00:38:08
That's what's happening right now and by the by the way it's been.
00:38:11
You heard it from the players after the game.
00:38:13
The energy, the excitement, like Joe just said it like, This is an important game for this team toe win because they've been working so hard.
00:38:19
And if you don't get that, then you start to lose the locker and then you start to lose players, then people start to check out.
00:38:23
Right then it gets even harder to find a way to continue to develop the talent and evaluate the talent and know what you have going into next year.
00:38:29
And what do you need in the draft class like all of those little details play out.
00:38:33
When you really put out the effort on Sunday and just across the stadium, you see a team that shipped off one of their defensive tackles last night because they are now in fire sale mode like That's not what I want from the Giants.
00:38:43
There's some pieces.
00:38:44
I wouldn't mind them moving, but I don't want to see them burning down the house here because I like the players that are on this team, and I believe that there is a nice baseline here for this team.
00:38:52
Tohave success.
00:38:53
Let's not trend negative.
00:38:54
You can follow us at one giant podcast.
00:38:56
You can use the hashtag o g P over on SportsCastr to find Both are live streams as well as our podcast episodes.
00:39:03
This was a great win.
00:39:04
The Giants get their first win of the season.
00:39:06
Joe Judge gets his first win as a head coach in the NFL, 22 19.
00:39:11
An enormous victory.
00:39:12
I'm excited.
00:39:13
I can't wait to see what happens tonight with the Dallas Cowboys, and even if they get the win, still take the W for Big Blue.
00:39:20
That's what it's about for us.
00:39:21
Every single week throughout the season, we shout out over there to Kitty Kathy, 55 to clutch sports media bears Paul and Silly Simon.
00:39:30
That's funny, Silly Simon.
00:39:32
Just enjoy yourself, kid.
00:39:33
Thanks for checking in on the Livestream.
00:39:35
We're doing this thing every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning.
00:39:38
We'll be back in on Wednesday, previewing the Thursday night game against Philadelphia until then, and a Markowitz wants needs and demands that, you know, as always, let's go big blue.

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