Reasonable Doubt Episode seven Apologize, uh, supposed to take place, Obviously, our schedules Tuesday and Saturday.
Ah, lot of stuff surrounding a wedding.
My sisters for me.
Um, so I wasn't able to make that happen.
But thanks for Chris.
We'll get in and out.
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Chris Moore at c underscore more six.
Ah, a NLCS LCS Game seven and a LCS Game six in the NLCS Happened last night.
Obviously will go more in depth.
But, you know, did you watch the games? Uh, you know who are you, like, looking at saying Wow, this guy? You know what? We remain takeaways.
So the first games of the A. O. C.
I thought Tampa Bay just rolling through up three oo Like I thought they finally had a call clicking on all cylinders.
But then the collapse happened like they lost three straight.
I didn't actually ashes claim an important game seven.
That really surprised me, but they did finish the finishing the off last night with Game seven victory.
Like if they would have lost that, I would have been, like, totally stunk.
I thought the series was over.
That was like rap after two all season.
So yeah, like that was gonna be a big shocker, especially because Astros like they haven't been really consistently good all year.
So And who likes the Astros this year, anyways? But yeah, that was a big shocker, but like, yeah, I mean, race will pull out of one.
And now we got a big one between the Braves and the Dodgers.
I mean, in my opinion, like I questioned the Braves pitching that we talked that last episode.
So, like, I've always been like, really skeptical of that.
For the Dodgers, pitching is like, not been the best.
Kershaw, like once again like you don't have the strongest game like another one was playing blunders.
He was doubly disappointing.
I thought, like he finally was like getting over the hump this year, especially after the collapse last against the Nationals.
Yeah, I gave them tonight.
I will definitely be a good one.
It'll be probably high scoring affair like it's been all Siri's.
So yeah, I mean, we'll just jump in the game seven right now.
Um, right now it looks like the Braves.
Their starter is 22 year old Ian Anderson.
Um and it looks like, Yeah, this is his first season in the majors, three and two in the regular season, 1.
In the postseason, too.
And, oh, hey has yet to go up and earned run in three starts.
Um, Dodgers still undecided.
But you know it.
You talked about the Braves pitching and we've talked about that before.
Um, they have definitely looked not the best.
Um Is this the night where they finally turned it on and do or die? Or is this a night where Game seven and I'll and I'll see? Yes, it's just way too much for the rookie.
Yeah, so I just think the only way the branch can win it's just like all Siri just has to be a high scoring just get like a lot of runs up.
A lot of points that that's the only way I could see the race winning because that pitching, like first in the majors like it's always been shaking all your bond.
That's the biggest question mark.
But e mean like they could really score.
They could put up a lot of a lot of runs so they could do that.
Then I didn't think well this game.
But the same time Dodgson score to like they have 15 runs in the first inning like that was unreal, like what is going on here? So, like so So they can explode to.
But I think offensively embrace the image.
Probably consistent, explode the most.
I mean, this seriously has just been really weird.
I mean, there is no there's just stop back and forth.
Game 151 Braves game 287 Braves Game three.
Like you said 15 to 3 Dodgers in Game four, the Braves her on one, tended to Game five and then Game 673 and 321 Dodgers.
So there are games where the Braves are scoring a lot, but they're you know pitching is bad and their games where they're scoring nothing and they're pitching is good.
Uh, not a great thing.
Tohave Mhm, obviously.
You know, is there a picture that that you think the Dodgers.
They're gonna throw out there tonight.
Or do you think this could be a bullpen game? Um, because, I mean, obviously you're not going to throw Kershaw out there.
Did he pitch? He didn't pitch last night was Walker Buehler Baylor, Game six.
But you're not gonna throw him out there.
Maybe you're rias eyes.
They're a guy thinking of Do you think it even matters? Um, I don't think it matters that this Siri's often been kind of like having been the best.
I don't think like it has been like a dominant guy this seriously, I don't think it matters.
This matters for this game seven.
Like, there's not one guy I had in my in particular.
So I just think like like I mean, that's probably the so Yeah, So I e I don't think it matters as much, especially with the Dodge experience.
And like, they have the death.
Something simple thing. Game.
Yeah, I usually don't.
Well, I don't like the Dodgers.
Uh, they just spend a lot of money, and usually they're not good.
Well, they're good, but they always fall short.
Um, but with all that cheating they've had to go through two years.
I don't think anybody could really be that mad if they make it.
Um, Game seven l. A is the favorite.
Um, you know, Atlanta's bats last two games, Uh, they scored four runs collectively ever since game five when they put up 10.
So you said the Dodgers gonna win, You gotta score production or prediction. Yeah.
So I would say Dodgers when I'll say 53 I just looked at this, and I just I mean, this is such a crazy serious like we thought it is.
It's hard to predict.
Yeah, that was just like I threw that one out there.
I mean, like you said.
Braves like What the hell is that? Ever? And it's been the whole series.
Um, I'm just gonna go off of this.
Siri's has been insane.
So I'm gonna put a brave just because why the hell not like it might happen again.
Uh, but I feel like this could be one of those dominance.
Games were like, It's really fun to watch, but it's like 8 to 7.
Both teams make mistake's and you're like, Okay.
What the hell is this? This is not this is not what I thought were the two best teams in the N l E will be either way.
You know, whoever wins this, the Siri's will play the Tampa Bay Rays.
They just beat the Astros last night.
Uh, in game seven, they'll be in the in the world. Siri's.
We'll talk about the raise Astro Siris in in a minute here.
But, you know, take us through both teams.
Both both the Braves and the Dodgers.
Um, you know what these teams advantages are against the rays, What their disadvantages are, And and can either these teams or can both these teams beat Tampa Bay? I see both teams beating them.
Yeah, because I just think like, um, they have the stars.
I think having stars and big moment definitely really matters for the Rays don't really have, like, a standout like star or anything.
So I think they both teams beating them and, like Botham had definitely could explode offensively.
We saw that even this, um, in the n l C as they both think it definitely explode and we haven't seen explosions like that from the race like they usually just kind of studies salt all around team.
So, yeah, so I'll pick the winner of this game time tonight to win the World Series over the race.
Who do you think out of the Braves and Dodgers has a better chance and out of both of these teams? Is there a team are going? It's a lock already.
I would say the Dodgers just it's based on, like their experience.
I mean, like, they've been here before, like a lot of experience like veterans has been on the big stage of the world. Siri's.
So if I did so, I would say I'll pick them a lot over the race, for sure.
And the Braves, I mean, like, we haven't seen them as much so like, but I think the office would be too much.
But like I would say, if the doctors make it, it will be a lot race.
Yeah, I mean, I'd say even arguably the Braves, if they could get their offense, someone on track, they could be a lot Thio.
Um, just because the Rays, I mean, Randy Rose Arena has been incredible.
I mean, this might be a postseason, You know, from anybody? Um, at the same time, though, outside of him, nobody is really doing a whole lot.
Yeah, just kind of their star around.
There's a solitude.
So, I mean, if if a Rose Arena I mean, I didn't think he'd be hot this long, but, you know, if he loses some of that in the world, Siri's I heavily doubt as much as I loved the raise, I highly doubt that the rest of team can pick it up.
Would you agree with that? Yeah.
You can't rely one guy for the World Series.
Like, I think it has to be a whole team effort.
So, I mean, this is baseball.
It's not like the MBA or something to lie on, like LeBron do carry you there.
So you got any more guys like it's different when you have nine guys on the field and the whole bullpen than five.
So what will go to the other? Unless you have any final comments about Braves Dodgers game seven tonight? Um, yeah.
I'll be a good one.
Yeah, I'll definitely be tuning in.
Like, despite all the football going on like I think it would be really good game some 15 and nine.
I mean, for sure. I'll definitely be checking in.
Um, I don't know who's playing tonight in the NFL.
Do you know who's playing Sunday night? I can look it up.
Um, it's Rams at Niners.
Well, yeah, I probably won't be turned to nine or trying to get this gear.
Yeah, that's not like actually, I'm always down for sending it football, but that could get really ugly.
Really, really quick.
Um, so we'll go to the other side.
We talked about a little bit already, but raised one Ford's to over the Astros again.
Arena homered. Two run shot.
Zunino hit a homer.
Sacrifice y great to Arba.
Uh, single in the eighth, Tampa took a 4 to 2 were up three Nothing.
And you know, we we both said, you know, if Tampa wins Game three, the Siri's is over and it got really close to not being over.
Astros squeaked out 43 victory in Game four in Game five and then once a board Game six.
Does this raise concern for you.
No pun intended for Tampa Bay in the world.
I mean, you talked about how it's already a lock, most likely for the two teams that are in there.
But does this raise concerns for man? You can't even put away the Astros, who, you know their average has fallen off a cliff since the cheating has stopped.
Does this raise raise a little concern for you? Yeah, absolutely.
Like, that's a huge red flag like you're up three only Ashes comeback and force a Game seven.
That's just like a big, huge question mark.
But you get the brain in the doctors, I think, like, um, if they would have nothing like that, there are three.
Or get the doctors or like, um, or the Braves and they came back like that.
They would have been the Game seven like there was no way like I could see.
Like, the Dodgers are like Braves like they'll be motivated to win that Game seven.
So you can't, like, wander like a seriously like that against, like, the two top tens, and you have to win the best deal like they got lucky because the Astros and the rays of Far Superior over the Astros so that there were kind of, like, put them away in the last game.
But you can't, like collapse like that that they stripped leg.
In my opinion, Yeah.
I mean, the one good thing about it, uh, Charlie Morton got the win last night for the Rays.
Um, I saw that going into the game.
He led the majors and winds in winter, taking all games.
I think this was his fourth.
So he definitely has experience, but But, like you talked about, this team is not going to get off to a three goal lead over any of these teams unless something really crazy happens.
Um, so I position.
And now you know, they played seven.
Um, you know, rest is always something that people talk about.
Well, now they only have one day extra rest.
Um, and that's not going to do much, especially with World Series starting Tuesday.
Um, it's not really gonna help him that much.
In my opinion, uh, do you think that extra day makes an impact? No.
I think one day it's it's not like a huge like difference.
I don't especially we're starting right back up on Tuesday, so I don't think it'll be that much.
A different section of musings.
We've been talking this whole off season, starting from the early postseason to the late, um, this Astros team where they legit or not, Um, they only made it because of the expanded playoffs.
They were the 17 at 29 31.
Uh, they found a way to make it a game away from the world.
Are they legit, or did they just kind of get lucky? Obviously, you know, you can't get lucky all the way the NLCS, Game seven.
But you know, to a certain extent, did they get lucky here.
I know that you got lucky coming like first round.
He played against the Twins and the Twins.
I don't know what's up with them in the playoffs.
They just can't like 18 straight postseason losses.
So I just a lucky draw right there.
Uh, that's a ground again.
Who do they play? They play with who? Oakland. Oakland.
Oakland. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're not boasted before the player we got there like you're playing a trash division, which is that's huge this year guy wouldn't play division team, so they lucked out there to even get get to the championship Siri's.
Then they're raised.
I mean, like the whole you If you're kind of questioning like, can they really do it on the big stage? Because, like, they don't have, like, big name players, but like they had that one star like really good posting in general, there are almost, like, deepest.
And then they kind of like the big firepower bullpen that most other things have at this stage.
So little question that.
But so I think, yeah, they definitely had an easier, really prepared to most teams like making posters to run.
And yeah, I think it s Oh, yeah, so I think that's a big factor.
And then also with no fans this year, like they're playing the road this year, all like that would be so tough for them, like people be booming them like crazy that every single ball park outside of Houston.
So that was like could definitely help their case to Yeah, and I mean, you know, like you said that they beat the Twins, but that's the best of three anybody pulled two games out of their ass.
Um, you know, and the twins really rely on that long ball, and there are plenty of times.
I mean, it's baseball where you'll go, you know, just cold for home runs.
Um, you know, the athletics? Um, that game was a best of five.
They won 321 again, it's, ah, lot slimmer.
Margin fair and best of five especially, You know, the A's.
They didn't Matt Chapman.
That's a big loss.
I don't think a lot of people really understand that.
Um, in Oakland, pitching was bad.
Uh, you know, Game one, they're up three.
Nothing in the going into the like. The fourth.
They lost that 10 to 5.
You know, they had a lead in Game 21 Game three, Game four again.
Nothing going into the bottom of the fourth and Game five again. Up three.
Nothing going into the bottom of the fourth.
The only game four games.
But, you know, they had a lead on every one of those games.
They're up by three or more runs.
Um, I guess the ashes were good, but do they at least get a little bit of respect for coming back down.
30 against a raise or are you looking at it as boy? The Rays almost ****ed this one up.
Yeah, so, like, I would say more like the Rays, Like, almost messed up rather than the Astros coming back.
That's what I say because, like, I would say, the whole Siri's like it's kind of like raise your kind of, like in control.
But, I mean, in those games, Um, 54 and five that they were close games.
But it's still like you.
I mean, like, maybe like in Game four, you can, like, squander that away.
But I think at five and six you can, like, lose those games, either.
What's your game in the world? Serious also is definitely more like every rather than good Astros, right? Yeah, Game five.
They just They just couldn't really get offense going.
They kind of blew it late.
You know, Game five.
There's that walk off former by Korea.
I mean, that's tough. That'll happen.
But in both those games, that really allowed the Astros to jump out onto them early and then you know, Game six, they're up one nothing going into the fifth and then give up four in the fifth, one in the 62 in the seventh? Um, so it just seems like every game.
They were kind of falling apart, able to sc**** together for Game seven, but definitely had some trouble there, too, with the bases juiced in the eighth.
Lucky to get out of that with only two runs, Um, but we talked about Randy Rose Arena.
If he keeps playing like this and the Rays lose because neither of us think they'll win this, they're a good team.
But they're just going up against some juggernauts.
Whoever it may be, if Rosa Rita keeps up and they lose, should he still be World Series? M V P losing team have the M v p like I'm not big because it was like both the braised and doctors have, like, really, really the best players in baseball.
So I think it is, really I mean, like, I'll go down on the best policy runs all time, for sure, and I think I'll remember that for many years to come, especially so young, too.
But at the same time, like, yeah, I think I put against the Braves and a dodgy like, There's no way I like, um, they will take that M v p away from them, so I don't think so.
I think it it depends a little bit.
Uh, I It's tough because the Dodgers and the Braves air so good that it might actually be one of those things where everybody pulls their weight.
So there's not one guy who, like stands out then I think he's got a little bit of a chance because he plays like this.
He'll especially you talked about a lot of players.
Yeah, and I mean, if he plays like this, he'll probably stretch this seriously, like five or six.
Which five? Doesn't sound like stretching the Siri's.
But against either of these teams with holiday have been hitting outside of him.
That would be pretty impressive.
Ah, but it's always tough.
I think you know, we've seen you know, when LeBron lost obviously your big LeBron Pan when he lost that finals to the Warriors and six, I think and Biggie got it.
LeBron should have had that in the bag. Yeah.
I mean, you could do some role player like that Yeah, well, what? I think he led both teams and points.
Rebounds, steals, assist.
Uh, if you can't give it to him for that in a losing effort in a six game Siri's when he doesn't have Irving or love I I'm a little scared that even if a Rose arena goes off and this goes to seven, no matter what he does, if they lose, he probably won't win it.
Um, but honestly, I don't think he'll care if he wins.
He definitely doesn't give a **** if he loses.
Um, I think they'll have some other things definitely to worry about that an M v P trophy for the world.
Siri's so yeah, but I think of the opportunities in the future, though, like like he definitely has a good career ahead of him.
So, like, I think he will get back here.
I think it definitely will.
So if he doesn't get it this time, who get done for the down the line that I could see the race coming back? Yeah.
Crazy thing about him.
This is second season in the majors.
Um, it season 19 last year with the cardinals, 23 in the regular season this year with the Rays on and he's just popped off.
Uh, in the post season this year, he's only 25 to, so that didn't get He is young s so he definitely like, could have a good years to come.
But I think this year, like insurance, even definitely helped his case to the You remember that I go with really, really treason.
So I definitely help young players like that Well, and I don't know too much.
Haven't been following the race too much.
Um, but I see he played 23 games this season, obviously, in a 60 games.
So either, uh, there is an injury and or to him and or there is an injury to somebody else that gave him a shot.
That's why he's here.
So, um, we'll definitely have time to work on that this off season.
We'll change gears a little bit.
We'll go to the MBA.
Chris, This your wheelhouse? Tyler Lulu Clippers head coach.
We'll just go from there.
What do you think about this? Yeah, so I mean, it kind of surprised me in a little degree.
I mean, I wish he was the Lakers coach.
I mean, he's hoping the Laker coach last year, but then it basically came down to He wanted more years, like I don't want to give in to the money kind of kind of dispute that didn't work out.
I mean, Vogel worked out, so I mean, I just wanted chips, so I'm not too unhappy about that.
But Practical was hired him.
Actually, I'm really surprised because, um, lose on the staff last year and, like, huge part of the staff that collapsed against, um, I guess that was one of the worst playoff class you've ever seen.
And Ardley, maybe sports history, Not just MBA history.
It was just like that was no one who saw that coming at all that was there, All three wanting as a way of period team.
And I really want to argue the best in the league.
And it was like that.
So I thought that was kind of just clean house complete, kind of get rid of the whole entire stuff.
I mean, Louis part of that staff, but he was in the locker room.
That was kind of part of that.
Some surprise you brought him back.
I mean, we'll see how it goes.
I mean, he's a strong personality.
I mean, obviously dealing with, like, Kyrie and like LeBron the same locker room because like the kind of too big egos.
So he can't maybe working out with being like a CO I and Paul, George and Russell that those role players trying to figure out what's happening.
And he's advantage of he know what happened last year's.
He knows that we're kind of like players and like and who's kind of clashing, who's so maybe you can kind of help it out, but yeah, like I'm I mean, I think even better for the doubts.
I mean, he knows the type of making the locker room, but it's probably Clippers went that direction because of the values in a completely clear house.
Look for someone brand new and get a brand new stuff.
Hey, you wanna chip with the Cavs? Obviously, they had a great team there, but they also beat one of the best teams of all time down 31 So, uh, to say he wasn't a part of that at all.
I think it's pretty dumb.
Obviously, LeBron was most of it.
Um, but, you know, you brought up the collapse and ironically, I would I would agree to.
It was only a 31 lead.
Obviously, we've seen some teams lose 30 leads, but I mean that Clippers seems up like 17 with, like, five minutes left in the third.
So it wasn't like it was like a close game in Game five, 31 I guess Team had it in control.
E don't really know.
They're up 19 and then gave driven by 12 in the fourth quarters like they had huge leads in all three games.
And these completely just collapsed.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm looking at his coaching history now, who was an assistant coach for the Clippers for one year, 2013 2014 before I went to the Cavs.
But even with that, I am a little confused.
Kind of like you just because, you know, you brought it up.
He wasn't assistant this past year.
Eso he was a part of this in one way or the other.
And these guys, I mean, obviously there's trouble in the locker room, um, with George CO y all the role players.
Um, how he's gonna handle that? I don't know.
But ironically, I think that might be one of the good things.
I think this might be in his wheelhouse because you've seen him deal with some problems middle of the season with the calves, and he was able to win a chip.
Um, do you think this is helping them? Do you think this is keeping them even? Do you think this is making him worse? I mean, it's tough to tell this early, but what's your initial thoughts on how this impacts of Clippers? Yeah, so, like there's often might be.
But I will say it probably helps them.
I think like Blue is definitely is a strong, more powerful voice than Doc.
I think that kind of place to the players too much and Luke despotism or strong diamond personality that you do what I say.
Like he cursed out LeBron the whole.
I remember the 2016 playoff, so you cursed him out like you don't see coaches do.
That's LeBron James very often, so he's not afraid of that kind of getting players faces and stuff, so I think that definitely helps them.
Yeah, I was probably 1% 1 the direction.
But I mean, I think it does help them months, and I think he can maybe get him over the home.
Do you think it's so tough because we have so much left to see? Obviously, um, you know now he'll be without LeBron LeBron.
But you like him or hate him.
You gotta admit he's an easy guy to coach because he's like an on court coach.
Hey, keep somebody on line two.
It's gonna be interesting to see.
Do you think the Clippers are going toe you making some trades? Do you think he's going to be in the front offices eras well, or do you think he's kind of going to take a backseat approach a little bit like he did with the Cavs? Honestly, Probably backseat approach, because seems likewise, like running the team and like who comes in and out of the team? That seems like I mean, he got Paul George there, he said.
I'm not coming to clipping this.
Paul George comes with me, so he's kind of in half picking players already, and I think, like needed, the point guard up.
That's what they really need, like a point guard, someone that can make plays start the offense because we really don't have that last year.
Like no one's like, really kind of like that distributor, like making plays off the dribble and stuff and kind of getting offense going.
It's kind of like the biggest question mark I had going into it.
These rumors you might go for Rondo like I would be are I hope you didn't leave the Lakers.
He left like he better not like go to the Clippers.
But I mean, like, I need to play like that, though.
They kind of like a point guard, that kind of, um, kind of head start the office going.
There's rumors that Chris Pocket maybe come back to the Clippers to the ruins about that, so they could be really good piece for them.
They think some kind of point guard distributor.
So I've seen you know, you brought up Operation Rondo.
Uh, KCP opted out.
Ah, Bridge out of Rondo.
Also opted out, I believe.
Did he have thought that this article he's unrestricted? Yeah, he's he's unrestricted.
So he just this congress expiring sees a region already.
I thought he correct me if I'm wrong.
Did I thought Anthony Davis already opted in for next year? He opted out, but he or your agreed to resign.
So it's for, like, two years.
Was that just toe extend it or was that to get more money? Because I'm just seeing here, okay, because I just saw that coming up.
Hey, got more money out of it.
So he opted out that your degree, toe, a two year deal.
Is, uh, both those guys, they're actually rumblings about them going to the Clippers around 11. K C p.
Um, I don't know about you.
I don't see how this works.
Um, we've seen Rondo.
It places, and if he's not happy, he's just going to give up on you and special treatment in the Clippers locker room already? Um, yeah.
I don't think that's something he's gonna want to get in the middle of because he actually looked.
Yeah, he was pushing the playoffs, especially, Yeah.
I mean, the big thing that clippers this year, you gotta remember.
Like, why he should have let the team meetings.
You should have liked to practice related team flights like quiet counties did whatever you wanted.
Apparently a lot of players that including, like, Harold, like Beverly that it kind of got, like, salty about that.
Kind of, like a certain way.
If I mean, like, I kind of look to, but who do you think you are? Kind of like showing up whenever you want doing, like, play whatever you want.
Like, it is not a good buddy.
Yeah, and I look at both these guys.
I don't think any of them should go to L. A.
Obviously money talks, but I don't think this will help any of them.
I think ironically, if either of them go to the Clippers would actually hurt them.
Would you agree with that for the Clippers? E don't feel hurt per se.
I mean, the KCP.
What, exactly? He's a big locker room, cancer like going issue.
He's had he had the health house arrest thing.
He had an ankle bracelet on like a while.
I was kind of like a message situation, but I mean, but Rondo, you mean he can of locker room issues like so, like I potentially could, but I just think at this point, like Julie mature in the Lakers locker room, like kind of like your no issues with him in the locker room, things like, you know, like it.
So I think it's possible he wouldn't have to move me still like l a so goto Staples Center to play like you want to move it all.
So I mean, he could still like like it for yeah, for for the Clippers.
It's just gonna be a tough season.
Obviously, that l A rivalry always runs rampant.
Um, but, man, you know, you touched on Kawai and off, you know, when we're not on podcast when we're just talking.
We have talked all the time about how much of a cancer co IAS And for whatever reason, nobody seems to really hate him for it, Which is interesting.
Uh, really quiet guy.
I think that's why he's a really quiet guy, like, I mean, like, he doesn't He's not very vocal on the court to get the media something.
He kind of people just kind of look over it.
And really, it hasn't really shown up, uh, until the end of his Spurs era, even then, pupils in He just doesn't feel like he's healthy then. Toronto.
He really kind of refused to play a lot of games, said he was heard a long time. Clippers.
It's coming to the forefront now and you said, You know people, he's quiet, so they kind of gloss over it.
But obviously, he's a problem.
He's definitely a problem, Um, in some way or another, Um, he's obviously a great talent.
But is this getting to the point where if you're a free agent or if your team and you're looking at him as a free agent, he's interested to come? Is it bad enough yet where you're saying Maybe not unquiet? It depends.
I mean, like, if you're already a winner, I would say, Yeah, I'd probably pass.
It's not worth it, but like it was looking for your first chip.
You're like one of the top players that you still might think about it coming.
He still is a two time champion, a two time finals MVPs so like it's hard to kind of like pass up on well, He's still like, has done a lot of his career.
What I think too time to put the player of the year winner, too.
So it's kind of like he has like, Hey, is a resume.
It's it's kind of hard to argue against.
So if you're still one of the top players looking for a chance to win a championship like it's kind of hard to see, So if you already 31 on your own, then, yeah, I would say finite North the hassle because he doesn't like a fun player to play with.
I would I would disagree a little bit.
I definitely agree with you on contenders, though.
If you're a winner, like like if your team like, uh, you know, the bucks, the Raptors heat, you know any of these teams that are not quite there but are like, you know, in the conversation, I totally agree.
I don't understand why you bring this guy in.
He's just a cancer.
I I even argue that you don't bring him in for bad teams.
Uh, you know, obviously he's going to get you a lot of wins.
Um, I would argue, though, that man, if you're trying to build something under him or start something under him, uh, a and that's a team, that's a precedent I really don't want to set.
Do you think the president almost doesn't matter? It's just at the end of the day, who wins or does that precedent, You know, You know, why are you saying Even if you're losing, go for him? Yeah, I just think like he just so kind of like he's done so much is kind of hard to say.
Like Noto, like a player like that, Like a big based off the resume, like probably like him being like a locker room, cancer and stuff.
I mean, like, if you're a team like known for Lockerbie issue, then maybe you kind of like imported the same time.
Like it kind of like there's another president.
You kind of just You gotta go forget to the best player you gotta try to win to go for the best players.
So that's just my opinion.
Like if I'm like a GM, so, yeah, you know, it's one of those things where it's tough.
Obviously, if he were to say, Hey, Memphis, I want to go to you Obviously, Memphis isn't going to say no.
Like those smaller teams.
Nix's you know they can take because the Knicks are trash, but it definitely is interesting.
And, man, he could have been one of the most beloved players, probably of all time, just because he was quiet.
Hey, didn't get into politics, which some people obviously hate for God knows what reason.
Um, and he's a winner had been a fan favorite.
Right now. He's kind of looking more like a villain.
Ah, than anything else.
Yeah, sticking on MBA train Rockets GM Daryl Morey is gone.
What do you think about the move? I should say it's It's very complicated situation, but what do you think about him being out in Houston? Yeah, there are more Maurice.
So I would just say like, he's definitely one of the most unique executives in the league.
I mean, he's very progressive, like he's very like the whole track situation in tweeting out free Hong Kong that was very controversial.
Coming already like this between America and China and itself just various takes two ways.
You don't really like each other.
We kind of got got to get along with each other, the two biggest kind of use in the world and like a lot of traits.
You can kind of get along because the MBA, to like that's a huge market from the NBA is kind of like like a lot of sounds like you want to be on their good side.
I mean, the Hong Kong thing, obviously a kind of road channel, the wrong way, because that's a very tense situation.
Overy, Communist government.
They want control.
So I mean, that was not a good look at all, but he's very progressive in that sense.
I'm really he's very vocal, the whole black lives matter movement.
So, like were mostly kinda executives ownership.
You don't see that kind of progressive them, but he's been very like I was spoken progressive, so I mean, like, I think it's a good sign in general.
So like, I mean, I like him as a GM like he's very innovative, like he thinks a lot of like unique trades.
I mean, he bleeding James Harman.
No one else did somebody trade for James? Are people that what the heck why is he making district for James Harden? At the time, he was just a player off the bench, scored some points.
No one's like the M V P D is hard, um, but Maurice style, he said.
I want that player.
I want to trade for him.
So he went forward and I mean, like, look, he won m v P like they've won 60 games and stuff.
So, like he took, like, a lot of recovery, innovative, even his past.
He's like kind of like ditching a center.
Going from a small ball, like not made you kind of go through that race is very, very innovative, like you wanted Max on his players and talent, but kind of going about all that.
I don't like to move that much.
I mean, I think it's really good GM.
I think a lot of D'Antoni like I am not a D'Antoni coach fan like, I don't believe in his offense like he wins a lot of representing games, but he never he never been in the Finals.
You never liked wins the championship.
Just I think offense is fun to watch these for a lot of points.
To a lot of three, it's very fast paced.
It's fun to watch, but I just don't think you can't win like that.
I mean, he's ever been fire and So at the same time, I think it's probably going to get rid of D'Antoni.
He needed to go like I don't think you should coaching and be at all period anymore, But I just don't think that South place in the work.
So I like the idea of getting with Amaury.
But apparently a lot of friction is being ownership and him because I mean probably cause this level of activism being progressive like everybody wasn't a big fan of just bad.
And also, I mean, he's been GM there for 13 years and they have been in the finals.
So I mean, that's also a big question mark.
So E probably figured it was time to move on and get like a new executive up in there.
But at the same time, like I like to make a lot nothing like.
He's very innovative, like you can't get rid of GM like that and I just think the season would have been a lot of different.
Assumes he got rid of D'Antoni.
He can kind of rebuilding.
A new coach type comes in.
I like to move that much.
Yeah, right. Politics.
They like the move because he has gotten to the finals.
Um, there's an article out, but yes, Um, today, 11.
22 apparently took out a full page adverti*****t in the Houston paper today.
Thank you. Numerous people who helped them during the season.
James Harden A lot of people.
And, you know, you brought up the black lives matter, and, um you know, obviously it gets a lot of flak, I think pretty much unanimously or on Lee from people who really don't know the actual point of the movement.
Um, that is a completely different debate.
But, you know, he is a very progressive guy, like you've said.
And he made a mistake with the Hong Kong thing.
Justin Onley in the sense of, you know, MBA, You know, viewership.
Obviously the Hong Kong situation.
You know, it's a very dicey, like you said, but for the MBA was it was it was a bad call.
Um, but at the same time, pay Sometimes you just gotta stand up, do your thing.
Um, he's made 77 trades I'm seeing here a Z general manager.
And look, I was going to say he's bad.
He thinks this is gonna work.
That is gonna work That's gonna work.
But you know, the way we talk about D Antoni, the more I do question, you know, boy, it probably was D'Antoni.
Um, you know, he's never been a good defensive coach, has always been about offense.
And, you know, I really looked at that final or the Western Final Series, where they lost to Golden State in game seven.
Ah, that would have been different with a different coach, obviously.
Yeah, they're right there.
Like they're knocking on the door.
They scared to go to state.
That was with Katie to and everything.
I was like Prime Golden face.
So they're right there.
I mean, what they would have won the series with a different coach.
But I think it they took a coach who's really not that good.
And they Golden state to seven now.
We both agreed multiple times before That team is not gonna be the camp.
They just weren't gonna do it.
If the Cavs beat the Warriors like they did, they would have counted Houston into submission.
But, you know, I just don't get it right now.
Just because you know, you brought up a good point about D'Antoni leaving.
Um, you know, Antony's gone.
This is a whole new team now.
Um, I think he gives maybe the GM another chance.
He's obviously been very active in trades again.
Like you said, give a chance.
See? Hey, maybe he could do something under his new coach that he could do under Antoni before, Um, I'm a little the one part of me that is glad that he's gone for Houston, though, is just, you know, I think innovative or not, I think the small ball was a very stupid idea.
Um, obviously with the bubble that change something.
So who knows how that would work in a regular playoffs? But, um, it didn't really make sense.
You know, Chris Paul on that salary, the resigning didn't make a lot of sense.
There are a lot of moves here that you know, for me.
Uh, I can see why he's gone, but at the same time, you know how much is on D'Antoni? How much I'm Maurie.
I guess we'll have to see because if Maury lands another job good for him, we'll see how he does without D'Antoni and for D'Antoni.
I think we both know how this like season is going to go wherever he ends up.
Yeah, even when Howard, I mean, like, that was kind of question, but of it you have in the conference finals that year coming, you pay Golden 25.
Talk to his collapsed.
I remember, like wherever he found out of games, he was like, Yeah, the most tunnels ever in a playoff game.
So James Harden, just garbage doesn't mean like, even with the How are you to question that move there.
Still right there.
Even Chris Paul like like yeah, a lot of money at the same time.
Like they're still right there.
Almost be Golden State and Chris Paul got hurts.
I mean, it feels healthy.
Maybe would have beat him.
That's him. Like he never is very close.
And then he still traded him for Russell Westbrook, who's the former M V P and like he's still not horribly old.
So it's like he's still able to find a girl to get rid of that big, huge, expensive contract general.
But like I heard like Hughes saying that he's not looking for another opportunity for now, he's wanting time, kind of like for his family and kind of like, focus on the kids and stuff are expecting for that.
So I plan on staying for another two years or so.
Maybe like, kind of gm another team.
But I think when he comes back to believe, like after his kind of sabbatical, you can call it I think it definitely will be back.
And you have a cop gyms and leave.
And I give him, you know, a little bit of flak for how he runs Houston at the same time, though, you know, he's put in an impossible situation because even if he knows his team can't win with hard and, ah, what you gonna do, trade him? You know, you can't rebuild this team through trades, you know, in an offseason or free agents in an off season.
You know, uh, you pretty much have to embrace a rebuild.
Ah, so he did what he could with what he had, and that's more than I could say about a lot of people.
You know, some gm will just stay there, not do **** uh, keep firing coaches when they're really the problem.
Eso I'll give him credit.
He he did his thing, Um, like, he brought about his kids.
Uh, definitely, as a man, as a person, as a human being, uh, can't.
Can't slight the man.
He's a good guy.
Um, as a GM, we'll see.
But we wish him all the best, obviously, on his sabbatical.
We wish him all the best million forward.
Um, and that's really that.
We'll see how the rockets do without him.
That will definitely be interesting.
Um, without him without D'Antoni.
I don't believe that they have a coach yet.
Uh, no, they don't have one yet.
There are things like Ty Lue, but I think there's a leaning towards Jeff Van Gundy right now, so they know you're here at the same time.
Like if I'm Houston, I think at this point, like looks at the training tourist coming, just rebuild.
Bring house, listen to kind of trending towards that direction, Getting to the coach period of the GM now at the same time, like when new players are getting involved, This is kind of like I don't know, freedom.
So with that Ah, you know, I think we covered pretty pretty much will kind of get to the questions.
Unless you have anything else Toe, toe ad.
Um I mean, like, the Big 10 watching today is definitely the Green Bay at Camp Obey.
So, I mean, that's gonna be a huge NFL game.
Like, I can't wait to discuss that next episode because I think it's really good. Game 3.
25 Central time.
So, you know, we go again. The watch.
You'll have a better time if the packers lose to discuss, because I will be ****ed, and I will be throwing backs that you're asked.
You will just be saying yo Rogers lost.
You know, um, if they win, it might be a little tougher for you just saying but But I'm sure, e that's what I say.
This is green based first.
I got the pack by double digits.
I don't think it's gonna be close.
I think packers, they're gonna go to prevent disease.
Offense is gonna lead ****ing years to get some more. But you never know.
Tom Brady is all his weapons back.
That that's a big thing.
And my big upset The days I say the eagles beat the Ravens.
The Ravens was, like, very skeptical this year.
Like, I don't know that they don't know the same Ravens They've been looked very shaky like this year.
Like they want the same Ravens from last year.
So I got the Eagles after Philadelphia allowing fans now and look at the capacity they have me motivated right now.
And yeah, you know, I got my guy went so I think you'll find a way.
I will also go out and say, You know, obviously the games have started.
Falcons already being the Viking seven. Nothing.
Julio Jones Touchdown! Bears are beating A Bears are beating the Panthers, though.
70 Nick Foles Touchdown pass to commit.
Steel is up three Nothing.
All the other games 00 although, um, Bengals have it on the Indianapolis to third and goal Ravens have it on the Philly seven.
Um, since these games are already started Ravens just gorgeous rip.
Oh, well, who is that? Uh, Well, you want to take that back? No, Just kidding. Uh huh.
Lamar Jackson. Nick Boyle.
Seven yard touchdown.
Um, I'm gonna go out on a limb.
I'm gonna say uh, God, man, this is tough.
Chiefs don't impress me. Neither do the bills.
Um, I'm going to say any adult looks good against cardinals.
I think the cardinals have a bad defense.
Well, I don't say it.
Um I don't know if the win, it's going to be often to shoot out, but we'll see.
I think he looks good.
Um, going on the questions, though, uh, we'll go back and forth here both minor about fantasy football.
Um, the first one is, you know, with Levian Bell signing with the Kansas City Chiefs.
We'll talk that more in depth.
As you know, he goes to the physicals and the covert tests.
Um, how does that affect them in fantasy is, you know, are these guys going to be split splitting carries evenly? Kind of like we're seeing a little bit from the rams.
Um, does this bring down C E.
H two running back to and does it? Or does this bring Bell up to running back to in fantasy? What do you think? Yeah, so I think brains ch down little bits.
I mean, like his numbers already, we're kind of trending downwards.
Even before like this move.
So it's kind of like he's a really, really, really good first game and he kind of just didn't like, kind of like trending downwards since, I mean, he's still rookies.
He still got to put that in perspective and I think that she's got you.
Well, we'll use Bell a lot because I mean, like, he could run rounds with the well, he really get catching running back.
So I think he will mix it up The pilot split time.
So I was the probably both players.
I mean, if I had to pick one fantasy wind up five do belt because of his ability to run Ronald to kind of catch the catch passes.
But yeah, I say ch is not looking good for a fantasy while like, if I was someone, look, I'll be looking.
I will not be looking playing right now.
I'm a fantasy on there.
Yeah, if you drafted him first round, uh, ripped.
I kind of see Bell is more like a more like a workhorse kind of running back.
And I see them may be utilizing ch more as like a pass catcher just because he is so elusive.
And he's so loaded, so hard to tackle belt and he's gonna get right Run into those so they can sleep. Intention passes.
Yeah, I think it definitely makes them more dynamic because, like you said, I think that was a great point that now people are paying attention.
Teoh ch really hasn't been looking good fantasy wise player wise.
I mean, he's got the channel for fantasy wise.
Definitely not a one.
Um, I think they're both running back to heck if all stays there. Long term.
This could be like a nick show Kareem Hunt situation that they have in Cleveland right now.
Uh, do you have any questions or not on any parent culture this week? Alright, Alright, Alright.
Uh, I got I got another one.
Uh Kenyan Drake.
Unfortunately, he's on my fantasy team.
He's been **** lately.
We'll just say like it is.
Hey, did alright last week, um, scored a touchdown, but chase Edmunds again is out playing him five miles.
Um, is this time to just get rid of Drake entirely? Eyes that is Edmonds going to take over this starting running back position? Um, I think he is.
I think he's just more effective.
Look, he looked great last season.
Um, but guess what? Last season means, Jack.
Edmund should be there.
Guy, can you drink is just not effective.
And fantasy wise Edmonds is one hell of a guy If you picked him up, you know, with a handcuff, start expecting him to get more touches than Drake.
What do you think about that whole cannon trade Chase Edmunds situation? Yeah, So I would just say going off of that.
I mean, like, yeah, this guy's been the most impressive.
I just think this year there's more like a pass happy offense, like the cardinals.
I mean, now you got, like, you have, like, obviously you have beyond your Hopkins now because you're on the White House.
So there's a very dynamic passing office.
We'll probably start looking toe runas much.
I mean, he has been most effective, but at the same time, they haven't been running as much as you've been engaged.
When he touches, he has in years past.
So I mean, at the same time, like I mean, I wanted to start him from my fantasy over at the same time that I wanna be looking necessarily just really give up on him coming in.
They could be shifting more towards running now, especially at the current.
Kind of They haven't been kind of what do you? Many games that kind of been dominated really early in the season, so he could probably go a different direction offensively.
Try Try to give them more touches as possibly could serve up, Still get more touching to see them going along.
But have to wait and see, especially now.
It was like this whole cold outbreaks with Team A team.
Who knows? I was might change weeks a week.
It might be like maybe d hop, like is I would code for two weeks, Then you Actually, you're gonna have to run more, getting more touches.
Kind of just play it by ear.
Just kind of see it fall, fall the covert protocol.
See who has forward.
Who doesn't kind.
Just we have to wait and see you.
So yeah, I mean, even now it's **** near day to day with all the negative test coming back, which I mean, it's gonna happen to you have that many tests.
Um, it is definitely gonna be interesting You know, I think a lot of people that can in Drake, he was really good in the past year last year, a za running back.
Um, even with the hop, it looks like they're still going to the running backs.
It just happens to be chase Edmunds out of the backfield.
Um, it will be interesting to see, uh, they'll play again.
Like you said on Monday night against Dallas.
I don't think that will be a good indicator, because Dallas will give up a touchdown toe.
Literally. Anybody that can walk.
Uh, so a without further ado, it is 12. 18.
It is a Sunday going doi some NFL football.
Uh, Chris, you made your big prediction for NFL.
Just give us another one. Anything.
Any sport, any fantasy? Pull something up.
Well, something off.
Um I mean, like, a little less You count like my bucket.
The buccaneers like just dominating the packers.
I mean, like, conversation, talking to social media.
He said like we got this like, Aaron Rodgers ain't nothing.
So the entire stack of social media, So I think you don't feel big, like I don't think will be close.
Uh, boy, a lot of these games have already started.
Um, cheese? Yeah.
God, I would say Mike McCarthy gets fired with the next three games you got there.
Apparently, there are rumblings.
If he had lost to the Giants, Hey would've been fired.
I don't know how true those are, and I know he doesn't have that.
Probably just got there.
But he's any dogs got like, Don't sleep by any dunk.
I mean, like, he has 3, 11 1 seasons like he's good.
And I think that's exactly the problem from Mike McCarthy because I think Jerry Jones knows he's good.
And I think that this defense continues to struggle and they continue to lose.
This is the guy used to start.
I think my heart.
You better watch out because I think he could be the first coach fired. He shouldn't be.
It should be Adam Gates with the Jets because he is just a ****ing Dumpster fire.
But I'd say with the next three games, watch out, Mike McCarthy.
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Have a good one.
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