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00:00:00
That's the up.
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Yes.
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E z in the booth.
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E eyes.
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Alright.
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E got disrespected.
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My role play z o mostly 63 and two is a role player.
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So let let let let let me clear that.
00:00:42
Oh, the room right now.
00:00:43
Okay, Now, what I'm not gonna do is disrespect, Frank, because every championship team has a role player aka Alex Caruso.
00:00:53
Um, that's what I'm not gonna dio.
00:00:55
You're not gonna dio what you're not gonna dio is disrespect.
00:00:59
Bruce Bowen.
00:01:00
What you're not gonna do is disrespect Derek Fisher, but you're not gonna be.
00:01:04
Oh, I'm sick of this notion that Frank is trash.
00:01:15
Oh, time out.
00:01:17
Go ahead.
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Go ahead. Go.
00:01:20
How many of those guys that you just named were actually drafted by those teams? Well, none of them drafted the Oh, that's very true.
00:01:33
But the oh, and we have you made our point before you, For example, you made a point.
00:01:43
I know, but you named a bunch of second rounders and, uh, dudes, uh, and you're defending somebody that was drafted eighth.
00:01:52
But I don't care about where you're drafted because exactly.
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Hold on any draft after after because they imagine a box picking Yanis and thinking he's gonna be a M V P at 15.
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That's a lot of you using.
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Right now.
00:02:10
It looks like if you're going by that logic far as M V P.
00:02:17
But you think they're really good.
00:02:19
But we're not talking about 15.
00:02:20
We talk about top 10.
00:02:21
, wait, talking top 10.
00:02:27
But don't place this negative or around, Frank, just because his first two seasons let's ask trade Frank.
00:02:37
32 years I wanted to trading, huh? No.
00:02:41
23 season.
00:02:43
He finally learned how to play point guard.
00:02:45
Let's be consistent.
00:02:46
E show you guys how maybe you guys pass it once they across half court e brokered through that.
00:03:02
He's the only one of them does that, But you gotta understand and fits that office.
00:03:08
What was frank doing every time he came across Half court game? Okay, you answered? Yeah.
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What a day e keyword Right there.
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His dale e.
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There was no Kota.
00:03:30
How can you? I'm sorry.
00:03:31
I e trying to find a club where Franklin sleeve? Because breaking for doing not I always wanted a second front like that, but let me let no it friend literally has the best defensive stats against Luca Donkeys.
00:03:48
We've seen him rookie year.
00:03:49
Be the best offensive player off guard against the pick and roll you're talking about.
00:03:54
Not your bro.
00:03:56
Kevin Knox jumped over a bowl like a cartoon, and it rolled under him like Yo, bro.
00:04:00
He has the worst awareness I've seen out of any player.
00:04:04
Forget the offense, guy.
00:04:05
Let's get bottle of backdoor screens, the guys confusing.
00:04:09
Now the block thing is good.
00:04:10
That's something you could build off of.
00:04:11
But Kevin Knox not wanna kill Frank, y'all sweet kid and killing Kevin knocks way e About not So is that they do not run enough.
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All those screens.
00:04:25
They're basically like a plan to Kentucky.
00:04:27
He doesn't way.
00:04:33
First of all, you cannot call it God's Soul.
00:04:36
Who's second on the team and blocks you can't e black you want with Julius Randle? 1000 minutes more than kicking knocks.
00:04:48
Let's blocks That is that.
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That is fat.
00:04:52
Julius Randle played 1000 more Minister Kevin, knock.
00:04:57
Let's box that Z Yeah, go right now, Trump, if I'm lying, I'm flying.
00:05:04
If I'm lying, knocks at a e o knocks at a point last season, has more blocks that Julius regular Bobby Portis combined and you praise empty sacks.
00:05:20
Stop praising empty sacks.
00:05:22
I'm sick of hearing about Jewish man who's 19 and a You're getting caught getting used to put up, like, 20 and 10 or whatever on, like, terrible tinge.
00:05:41
I don't know where E Now look at this, right? Not 55th and blocks.
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Who knocks Mitchell Robinson.
00:05:56
Two point. Oh, God.
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Zero A.
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Okay, come on, Chuck.
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E couldn't find Hey, Chuck.
00:06:11
No, no, Chuck, if I couldn't find a Frank Miller Kina fastbreak, you got exact research options as well, too, man.
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Yes.
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Can I say something? E.
00:06:23
I should look at block rate as opposed to just blocks, because not 4% versus the average compassion.
00:06:38
And he's still not my saving grace with lots and my only defense of knots that he started playing basketball late So you could tell the way he plays, he lacks feel.
00:06:50
The one thing I will give him credit for is that I don't know if you guys notice it, but I see you travels with things, and, um, last week he was I before Knox last this past season, then I like knocks the year before because the year before Fizdale just get oh, that's a building.
00:07:17
And, uh, I saw some.
00:07:19
Actually, he actually was passing the ball on getting assists and clay making.
00:07:25
Check it out.
00:07:26
He Oh, between your lottery picks, mind you not Frank.
00:07:47
RJ Mitch, please roll together.
00:07:50
No, they don't forget the vets.
00:07:53
Let's forget the best from one time.
00:07:54
Let's forget the best straight our draft picks.
00:07:57
They lost wealth.
00:07:58
They go well together.
00:08:01
That is because there was a lot of games naked, so the kids wasn't double digits.
00:08:07
Both games with this insanity sisters.
00:08:09
So this is one way is losing.
00:08:12
Know Chuck.
00:08:14
Chuck.
00:08:15
I need context when we speak right.
00:08:17
We watched every game.
00:08:19
Ganamos.
00:08:20
All right, game.
00:08:21
Oh, wait.
00:08:23
Watching a game when Nick Kids was plus 15 Philadelphia.
00:08:28
And then when the best game in that game, The best lost that lead.
00:08:32
And by the time kids getting back in the game, he was down 20.
00:08:35
That's not back.
00:08:36
I don't remember exactly which game was by.
00:08:39
Do you remember when the Philadelphia game that not where Randall looked off our Jay in the corner? I don't think it is.
00:08:46
That one, I think, is the one they played at home.
00:08:48
Right where we're up, what we owe all out.
00:09:06
Todd.
00:09:07
30 e don't care about Taj.
00:09:09
I don't care about Taj.
00:09:10
I don't care about nobody.
00:09:11
That's not in the future.
00:09:12
I don't care about E 30 and 62 games.
00:09:21
Uh huh.
00:09:23
Knox had 2020 28 65 games.
00:09:27
How many more minutes? The Taj straight and knocks.
00:09:30
Now you want minutes a block.
00:09:34
The blocks that blocks that in itself, a blocks that itself about proper context.
00:09:40
Not is not the right thing to look at because we don't know if he's a week first of all blocks.
00:09:44
I wanna say they as like, glint like they cut.
00:09:47
You know, that's a glamour, but I want to speak.
00:09:49
What are your What is your percentage? This is why I use with knots, and it did slightly.
00:09:53
But it's still ah, positive French, which is not good.
00:09:56
What is what is the average players field goal percentage and what is their field goal percentage when they're playing you and it's paused, its its higher when Knox is playing them versus their normal average, which is not good.
00:10:08
So Zio back door slot back u T O b.
00:10:16
The knock to the basket makes that stupid file where literally making the layup and not so hit him.
00:10:21
It looks like it's like a terrible reaction, e a lot said.
00:10:26
Well, he's flat footed.
00:10:27
So he has a hey has terrible anticipation.
00:10:30
If you're not, if you're not like like the thing about guys like Shane Battier, guys like Bruce Bowen, you're right.
00:10:36
They don't have necessary the greatest athleticism or twitch, but it's all about anticipation in time and right.
00:10:40
It's all about getting myself in the proper position to defend a certain place.
00:10:44
If I have a guy right there in a corner three and I don't like to make backdoor cuts the baseline with my friend, I am not letting him get that baseline.
00:10:51
I'm gonna call up his baseline.
00:10:52
It's always cut in front of me.
00:10:54
Nazis, your little new one.
00:10:56
That's not coaching as well.
00:10:58
Like the coach not supposed to put it, Zeke, this basic things like Bruce random not being able to pass out the double team like you don't need Pat Riley to come down and tell you Hey, when they're coming way, they're not going to run the basketball, but they're not going to run the same stuff that way.
00:11:30
They're tired with center.
00:11:33
Say it again for you.
00:11:35
You're comparing times.
00:11:36
Who's the starting center? So I was looking franchise that Z e don't care about the blocks that way.
00:11:50
We owe significance of the block.
00:11:55
The oh hold on.
00:11:59
Give the significant of the block.
00:12:01
It's the improvement compared Thio.
00:12:04
It's the previous year where he was assisted this past year.
00:12:08
This past year, that that's an improvement.
00:12:10
The fact that he was blocking shots and knocks his future is not Bruce Bowen's or or any one of these great defensive players.
00:12:17
Okay, so his offense is gonna have to outweighs defense because he's not a great defender.
00:12:22
So we know that.
00:12:23
So can I ask you a question that Rick War? Can I ask you a question that right? So this goes back to front now, right? So frank me and say New York believe and this is why I think Frank has pension because I think he's gotten terrible coaching right now.
00:12:37
You just said he's gonna have to work on his scoring right.
00:12:41
Knox is not an eso score when he drives to the basket.
00:12:44
Very linear. He doesn't have a go.
00:12:46
Thio have a lot's of game.
00:12:48
He doesn't have a little elbow jumping.
00:12:49
None of that because he did not get the proper coach because you can't even with Frank.
00:12:53
This is why I'm not like when he's crazy. Guys on Frank.
00:12:56
I love Frank, but I've always said Frank has to marry his his game to the end game for Knox.
00:13:01
If he can't, they do not run similar things.
00:13:03
That Kentucky, where he's a primary target, right? He's being used to move off the ball and they're looking at getting around the street, giving the ball as he's moving.
00:13:11
E don't do that.
00:13:14
What does not have to do? What, what, what areas of his game you see now? Then you say All right, I could see him with a postgame or I could see him developing the yourself.
00:13:21
What is because I don't see it? No, I don't see it.
00:13:25
Nothing has the floater a little bit.
00:13:31
It's very linear.
00:13:32
There's no it zero e like he's played make independent.
00:13:39
He's going to need somebody just keep watching, uh, e improvements this past year at the point guard play, but I don't see it at NBA point guard level, even MBA backup point guard level.
00:13:54
So, to me, Frank his role.
00:13:57
He's as he's a secondary secondary playmaker, Not I don't.
00:14:01
I don't want him as a backup point guard or as a starting point guard.
00:14:06
He could.
00:14:07
He could play those positions, but you would have to have a team sat with offensive with.
00:14:13
Players are very proficient offensively because it's gonna facilitate and get people a lot of a lot of good looks.
00:14:20
But But here's the thing about it, and this is this is the thing.
00:14:23
It sucks because it's gonna depend on coaching, right? So first year, right? I saw glimpses of a post game like he really back down guys and a part of pain and shoot the foothold on them and shoot the little the little, uh, whatever you call it. E.
00:14:42
I'm not saying that again.
00:14:44
What? I'm trying to say that these coaches this is why guys like you know, Spoelstra.
00:14:50
I don't He may feel away, but this is why I like guys like it because they take a guy like Jimmy Butler who up his assist game.
00:14:55
And I know cysts aren't the only indicator of good facilitation.
00:14:58
But it is one of the indicators, right? He up his assistant six about six assists this year, right? And you see him operate a lot from the post.
00:15:06
Right? Is the same thing LeBron James did.
00:15:08
Loss to the Mavericks came back next year. Went to lodge.
00:15:10
Want do that stuff he tour.
00:15:11
Okay, See the new ******* by operating in the post, It's all about is not.
00:15:17
Let's think about getting a e o Frank, except, hey, why don't you get him against these smaller guys like Timber who happens basically almost foul him.
00:15:28
And if they want to double team Frank, If you started to score in the paint and pay against smaller guards, then he could pass out, which he can dio do that.
00:15:37
Frank was on the contract.
00:15:39
He won't scoring.
00:15:40
He won't score in the post for smaller guards.
00:15:42
He has no moves for one for two.
00:15:44
He's not backing nobody down.
00:15:46
He's right in the pocket.
00:15:47
E hold up like he need to be placed in the post.
00:15:52
He's not getting their off the dribble.
00:15:53
You know why he got to the post a lot when he was with Jeff Horn a sack? Because he ran the triangle.
00:16:00
And so he, like, put it like this.
00:16:03
R j a people a lot of people don't even notice.
00:16:07
But Jay Harris top prominently and points in the post per possession, like so.
00:16:17
E you know, e You know why you don't see it? Because big e paint, you can't crj operate.
00:16:35
This is not right.
00:16:38
Because when you sign when you sign for 19 million, right? You think this is why Disrespect Randall a lot.
00:16:47
We signed you to make us be better.
00:16:50
We don't sign you to make us look worse.
00:16:52
We didn't sign them for that.
00:16:54
But it's random, random position in the post.
00:16:57
I actually don't mind me.
00:16:59
Oh, no effort, No.
00:17:02
A e Waite, Both beast.
00:17:12
Uh huh.
00:17:13
But, Randall, I don't know what it is.
00:17:15
The random, randomly so offensive.
00:17:17
When I 80 went down down, Randall was more of ah, more of a willing facilitator with that.
00:17:24
Okay, See, with the pelicans, even after 80 went down, he comes to the Knicks who you could argue that at the same time, whatever I know Ju holidays on pelicans.
00:17:32
He's way better anybody on our team.
00:17:34
But for some reason, juice Randall.
00:17:36
He couldn't pass out the double team, which it amazes me.
00:17:40
I'm like dogs. You literally see them. I've seen Juice.
00:17:42
Randall see the double team coming.
00:17:44
He did a spin move into the baseline, dropped in and try Tokyo.
00:17:52
That's not like a 20 bro.
00:17:53
This is the thing about it is not like a truck.
00:17:55
Because if I see a double team coming and the guy I've seen times, guys, they're cutting into the lane, you make that pass.
00:18:01
If I see the double team coming, you make that, uh, participation past because that's it.
00:18:07
That's easy not to say.
00:18:08
Look, I'm not saying you can't miss slaves and stuff. That's the highest.
00:18:11
That's the higher field goal percentage.
00:18:12
Getting a shot at getting New Orleans.
00:18:16
No, no.
00:18:18
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
00:18:19
When All right.
00:18:20
So I'll admit when I when I was doing when I was looking at all the little veils was watching of, uh, the pelicans games.
00:18:26
I didn't really pick that up of him doing a bad job of passing out the double team.
00:18:30
But I mean, that goes to my point, like I don't know what a lot of guys, a lot of guys, a lot of guys the first time or the first season that they're put in a position where, where there, the guy that's getting doubled, it takes them a while to to know how to pass out of the double.
00:18:46
This guy's that struggle, that these guys have struggled passing out of double.
00:18:49
First of all, I don't want Randall.
00:18:50
Let me make it clear.
00:18:51
I don't want Randall on the team, so don't even a player.
00:19:09
I have a problem with him on this team.
00:19:11
I have a option.
00:19:14
That's what happened.
00:19:15
Yeah, e get rid of him.
00:19:20
Everything determined by that.
00:19:21
But that's determined by the quality of players you're playing with.
00:19:24
A lot of times, you know, you put random with another team.
00:19:27
He's not gonna be the number one.
00:19:28
I'll say this.
00:19:30
I'll say this, sir, I'll say this, sir, and I always go back to this.
00:19:33
Chris Rubber went to that King C understanding.
00:19:35
So I'm not saying Randall's Chris Webber.
00:19:37
Don't ever Chris Webber went to that Matt Kenny's team.
00:19:40
That was Garba Geo to the fullest and he lifted them with unselfish played.
00:19:45
He played in a post perimeter and also his passing.
00:19:49
He was way.
00:19:54
You just You just said the quality of players.
00:19:56
Now, if you look at that Kings team now, you know, obviously you had players that we've grown to grow.
00:20:02
That guy was good, right? Like Bobby Jackson E garbage before.
00:20:14
E don't like I don't hate Grandma.
00:20:23
I don't like it when we're when we're having these discussions and people pull examples from, like, 2030 years ago.
00:20:29
The game is different.
00:20:31
I'm sorry, Uh, only part of trying to make us that you can't have a guy.
00:20:38
And I'm not saying Randall, is that necessarily.
00:20:40
But even your sacrifice on the offensive end, right and also think about random defensively was terrible.
00:20:48
Terrible.
00:20:49
He's not obey topping.
00:20:50
Terrible, but he was inconsistent at best.
00:20:52
His best game, I think, was like that Rockets game where we won that game.
00:20:55
That was the best offensive game.
00:20:57
I see him play for the Nixon years. Randall.
00:20:59
If he gave more of an effort right? I think Randall is that he's.
00:21:03
He's too muscle bound, right? So a lot of that energy.
00:21:06
He expends a lot of energy offensively.
00:21:08
He doesn't have any energy, doesn't have any standard.
00:21:10
Doesn't have any endurance, Right? You saw that? He did that.
00:21:12
Weightlifting from whatever.
00:21:14
That's great.
00:21:15
If you wanna be a body builder and an MBA, we have to run up the floor.
00:21:17
He did Republicans to where he's heaving up the floor.
00:21:20
He's not getting back on it like he's.
00:21:22
He has too much weight on him.
00:21:23
So even defensively he's inconsistent because he just doesn't have his body is not conditioned.
00:21:27
E only my only thing.
00:21:31
It was ran.
00:21:32
He's the best we had.
00:21:33
And then you know what? And he wasn't He wasn't the only problem.
00:21:35
He was part of the problem.
00:21:36
There was multiple problems with this team.
00:21:38
So and I hate when we just pick one coaching the front office.
00:21:45
I mean, we've probably had some of the worst front office, uh, maker and then literally think that was not a coach because I literally watched every game.
00:21:55
You know, what was not was the last coach of the New York Knicks.
00:21:59
That was good.
00:22:00
Like legit No, no, no, no.
00:22:02
Just tell me who? The last coach of the New York Knicks.
00:22:04
You know what? Why? Everybody act like he never existed.
00:22:09
He could 44 days that 66.
00:22:11
Can we stop talking about this deal with 22 games? Might never.
00:22:14
44 way e You gonna bring up if you're gonna bring up the office and total we gotta pick on somebody so we gotta pick on his way.
00:22:29
Let's talk about some constructive.
00:22:31
So understandable.
00:22:34
So let's let's get past this part.
00:22:37
I want to get to the real conversation.
00:22:40
Right? What is it? What it thinks Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook.
00:22:52
So it's me.
00:22:57
Oh, what do you want? You know, it depends because, Okay, D C o K c.
00:23:14
I'm not trading Frank lots in the first round pick.
00:23:18
I'm not trading like Russell Westbrook.
00:23:21
Like you can have that if you trade for Chris Paul Russell Westbrook.
00:23:24
The reason why trade for one of those two is to make those guys.
00:23:27
What are you gonna give up, huh? What do you use on the Dallas 2023 pick? You give up the essay, and that's where you get to go Like I read an article where say, Tim's they basically saying that Tim's Arjun mentions off limits.
00:23:44
And then Tim's got a soft spot for Frank, supposedly because we know he's always a trade off.
00:23:49
They didn't mention nothing about not so I'm not gonna include knocks but Chris Paul or Rust with R. J.
00:23:57
Knox, Mitch Frank and use the rest of the cat insurance.
00:24:03
I don't see how that's a bad team. Toe watch.
00:24:06
I don't get wary.
00:24:10
Oh, you really you say the word toe watch.
00:24:15
You didn't say no Watch actually get back just to watch.
00:24:20
But will they win? Let me make it more simple.
00:24:22
I think any point guard is better than Alfred paying.
00:24:25
So let's let's start there.
00:24:26
I haven't watched any other point guard without offense than Alfred Peyton.
00:24:31
I don't care who the point guard is.
00:24:33
So Alfred Payne's best from Randall, by the way, he had the O quicker we know.
00:24:43
So So Cp three could help Frank at Knox, but not be S J.
00:24:49
Let me stay no point guard and I'm gonna repeat this.
00:24:57
No point you want that? No point guard that's ever played in the MBA that has played over 20,000 minutes and that's about 35 years old has been eso every point guard that very next season declines.
00:25:16
So my fear about Chris Paul is we get him.
00:25:20
And in terms of the Toney Douglas, that's my fear e Russell Westbrook.
00:25:32
Because Ross, I like my next team to take on his mentality.
00:25:38
E o don't say New York, you know you might do city.
00:25:47
They sleep, don't kill.
00:25:49
All right? You my guys, I've been, you know, Come on.
00:25:52
So, what's wrong? This e exchanging of the jersey, exchanging of the jerseys, shaking of the hands after getting your ass with 20 morning trying to extend the jersey with weight after losing my 30.
00:26:10
I'm sick again.
00:26:11
I'm sick of the bottom puts on the floor.
00:26:14
I'm sick of this ****.
00:26:15
E a lot of Chris Pol e What is what is it? What a e Barretto Have any persons mentality? E Russell Westbrook mentality o r j back Holder R. J. Barrett.
00:26:41
I mean is a self.
00:26:42
He's a self sufficient dude like you see Hey, you have given the battery.
00:26:46
He already comes from that line of what his father first and foremost and see, now he comes.
00:26:50
He already has a pedigree.
00:26:52
Russell Westbrook is a type of dude that he'll come to the Knicks and he'll pull that.
00:26:57
Okay, see? Hey, stuff my status.
00:26:59
I'll get a triple double.
00:27:00
And when we get to the playoffs, I'm trying to dip it off to you.
00:27:03
Thio you.
00:27:09
Westbrook Westbrook is holed up.
00:27:11
You just mentioned about players in over 35.
00:27:14
Whatever, right? I think what it's for, right? Just real quick, Right? Chris? Paul is off that Andre Miller mindset like these point guards who they are trying and Chris Paul's and way better scoring Andre Miller.
00:27:26
Well, he's the last of a dying breed where they get guys easy possessions, right? So you're talking about all the guys on our team who can create their own shots.
00:27:35
They can't really do much offensively.
00:27:37
They're not that town offensively, Chris Paul will get those guys in position.
00:27:41
So he is a coach on the floor now.
00:27:43
His body is breaking down.
00:27:44
He is getting older.
00:27:46
Maybe get him as a stop gap for the last few years on his contract.
00:27:49
I take him or and you can cause.
00:27:51
First of all, you can have Chris Paul here, and you could draft a guy who may not be a top guard who could develop into that say, like a Karen Lewis, right? Oh, I'm very enough.
00:28:03
You may not like Carol Lewis, but there's a guy who has certain chapters, like if he develops like this is still, um, could be this right.
00:28:11
Who's pause? The type of guy I think FDA would not would not be in the same trajectory that we all think he will be.
00:28:16
Be thes a black girl e over the West.
00:28:39
Westbrook is a I'm sorry.
00:28:41
I was Westbrook fan for years.
00:28:44
Hurt me one of the more.
00:28:52
He still wanted most explosive players I've ever seen, but that's all.
00:28:55
He predicates his game off explosiveness.
00:28:58
He doesn't know the game on a higher level.
00:29:00
Besides, let me just drive to basket.
00:29:02
If the defense collapse on me and I can't make the shot e for you.
00:29:12
What? What? You get the shot off the backboard right from the from their baseline, right? You look like a on his wheels like 80 was off of him and e defend Westbrook for a second e Don't do that.
00:29:31
You have something? You said that He's the guy that's gonna put his stat.
00:29:36
And then when we make the playoffs, So you already conceding that he's gonna lead us to the playoffs? E.
00:29:49
I'm saying compassionate CP three as well, too.
00:29:52
Okay, let me finish my point.
00:29:55
My point.
00:29:57
With regards to CP three, I prefer TP three over Westbrook, a well for contract reason.
00:30:02
And I think cp three It's a better point guard and will make players there.
00:30:05
But you said that secrecy makes that other players better.
00:30:09
Westbrook does the same thing, but in a different way.
00:30:11
The fact that he pushes the pace, That creates a lot of easy, easier transitional opportunities for guys that that are not very good in the half court.
00:30:20
And get these buckets that way.
00:30:21
So you mean like guys like Depot? Oh, crap.
00:30:24
No can use him like the bonus.
00:30:25
Use him.
00:30:27
E o man.
00:30:40
My God, doing this All these plays that Westbrook makes better and they all left him and did way better.
00:30:46
Another team, right? We all We all agree that finish let's finish it is important. I'm sorry.
00:30:55
Oh, you really low is important, right? Chuck? Your mike is really look is low.
00:31:01
You kinda gotta move closer.
00:31:02
So I'm sure, kind of.
00:31:05
What about now? Alright.
00:31:09
Way.
00:31:10
All agree that drafting is important, right? One of the keys to build it? Yeah.
00:31:14
Just so Yeah, you passed the cover of Quick Beloved.
00:31:29
So we should agree that this trend mic up, man, E u I think he's fine now, but it might.
00:31:38
It might be.
00:31:39
It is you. Freeze! Put some clothes on.
00:31:42
E guns, man.
00:31:45
That's tax. Our Jim Duggan over there, man.
00:31:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got carnival.
00:31:50
No, you don't.
00:31:53
You don't.
00:31:54
All right, so So we should be able to agree that reason the the recent collapse is due.
00:32:01
Toa frank.
00:32:03
It all starts with Frank now.
00:32:06
You e o.
00:32:19
Uh huh.
00:32:20
You already agreed with me.
00:32:21
Drafting is important.
00:32:23
A k a good pick.
00:32:30
Good pick.
00:32:31
Right after that, Frank.
00:32:35
Uh huh.
00:32:36
It started to go downhill now because Oh, my God.
00:32:46
You take knots instead of s G.
00:32:50
J.
00:32:51
Uh, Alexander, um, that that continue? It's a domino effect.
00:32:57
Uh, once you draft bad, you up until you fix that problem.
00:33:03
No, that's called that's called doesn't know what they're doing because you know why? Even though if you see a guy that you drive, you can always say, Look, we're going to this draft s She is a way, way, way better process what we have.
00:33:16
You know what? Your point is proven wrong because you wouldn't You wouldn't bring so many creation point guards to the team.
00:33:25
So that means that they knew that Frank wasn't the answer in their eyes that they went into that graph again.
00:33:30
They got convinced by a workout by not work out whatever should never sway you.
00:33:38
There's only maybe emboldened you want to say Okay, you want to play that year instead of instead of knots? Yeah.
00:33:48
You pick a so young Michael Carter Jr E.
00:33:52
Oh, no, no, no, that's not inside.
00:33:55
Everybody saying Michael put a junio.
00:33:57
This dude literally had he could not even go to the oh, he couldn't go to the workouts because he had debilitating that that issue chronic E o.
00:34:08
So a luxury pick? The nuggets were good.
00:34:12
There is a luxury pick now.
00:34:14
He looks good about Oh, ****.
00:34:15
No, he was not grow.
00:34:16
He made going.
00:34:17
Todo might not play a game next, bro, You have the building.
00:34:22
Probably genetic back injuries.
00:34:24
You never know when it could go.
00:34:25
His old families jacked up has had, like, 100 surgeries and his brother can't even make the lead because he's all Jack Kemp's s Finish your draft.
00:34:37
Thank you.
00:34:38
Thank you E o real quickly before you finished.
00:34:47
Now when they drafted Frank mind you, fish.
00:34:50
That was the first time head coach they're doing draft Frank.
00:34:53
Phil Jackson drafted Frank Frank and got fired the next day.
00:34:57
And then on top of that, Frank was drafted for the triangle.
00:35:00
So let's let's keep that in mind.
00:35:02
But also, one more caveat.
00:35:05
Things that had the smallest developmental staff way.
00:35:14
Alright for Alright, alright, Bye for Rick.
00:35:17
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:35:20
So that's it.
00:35:22
That that *** Fizdale is not the first time Head coach.
00:35:26
Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah.
00:35:28
You wanna be with you? Wasn't even the questions Rookie year.
00:35:33
****, He was so horrible.
00:35:34
It felt like it.
00:35:35
God just just just said that just to show you it's a domino effect.
00:35:41
Uh huh.
00:35:44
Instead of Frank, they took Kuzma.
00:35:47
You wouldn't have you wouldn't have been looking at.
00:35:49
That's the same draft.
00:35:51
You wouldn't have been looking at Knox that next year Knox had a better work.
00:35:56
I'd rather Noxon Koosman.
00:35:58
I'm sorry. It's a different draft.
00:36:00
Different draft.
00:36:01
I get your point.
00:36:03
E s o.
00:36:05
So your point.
00:36:07
So the point.
00:36:08
So real quick, Real quick.
00:36:09
Your point is that we don't draft Frank.
00:36:12
Then we would have never drafted knocks.
00:36:14
So that's dominant.
00:36:16
Alright, Alright, if that's all I understand.
00:36:19
I understand.
00:36:20
I wear my back.
00:36:22
I need Hey said he had some doubts about Killian.
00:36:24
Hes don't wanna have my killing in his discussion with Yeah, you already.
00:36:29
It's funny.
00:36:31
You know, Kelly Hayes trained for months for you.
00:36:36
I'm scared about what Kellyanne hates right.
00:36:39
It's not me and your opinion I'm scared about.
00:36:42
It's the blog's the media the way it's gonna be like, you know how we picked Frank, bro.
00:36:50
He flight from France and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:52
You know how people who's gonna take killing Hayes pick.
00:36:55
That's the That's all the reason why I think like the Knicks is not gonna take killing Jesus killing us for like i e you said you had you had a million.
00:37:06
So let me hear on.
00:37:09
Say what you want to hear.
00:37:10
What? You know, your prose.
00:37:18
He said you had doubts about killing Hayes, and he wanted the arm here.
00:37:21
Um, who has out e actually. E.
00:37:28
I was going to be positive on him.
00:37:30
Actually, I think there's certain things, but I mean, one thing is that he depends a lot on that pick and roll.
00:37:35
Um, so you need the offense.
00:37:38
Is gonna use that a lot with him, but I think I forgot what I read this.
00:37:41
I think he had, like, a pretty good percentage on like he likes to step back. Jumper, obviously.
00:37:47
You know, he has to get better.
00:37:48
That his jump shot.
00:37:50
Overall, I think he's got 37% from three.
00:37:53
I might be 36.
00:37:55
I got the number for you.
00:37:56
Got the shot. 29.
00:37:59
I think that might be thinking careless.
00:38:02
My dad tried 35 30 shots, 39% from three in the Euro cup.
00:38:07
It was a It was a 10 game tournament at the end, so he got hot at the end of the season in shot 39.
00:38:15
He shoots the three off the dribble at a very high could.
00:38:20
He shoots it almost like 42%.
00:38:22
But catch and shoot.
00:38:24
It is horrible.
00:38:26
So most young players, it's the opposite.
00:38:29
Most young players is easier for them to shoot Thio and shoot off the dribble.
00:38:35
Eso off the dribble, shooting on.
00:38:39
If you factor the fact that it's almost like a 90% free throw shooter, I'm not concerned about the catch and shoot, and then he didn't have a lot of catch and shoot opportunities because
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Potential Knicks Trades

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Slizzy Knicks @StateNewYorkKnicks

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That's the up.
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Yes.
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E z in the booth.
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E eyes.
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Alright.
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E got disrespected.
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My role play z o mostly 63 and two is a role player.
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So let let let let let me clear that.
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Oh, the room right now.
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Okay, Now, what I'm not gonna do is disrespect, Frank, because every championship team has a role player aka Alex Caruso.
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Um, that's what I'm not gonna dio.
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You're not gonna dio what you're not gonna dio is disrespect.
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Bruce Bowen.
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What you're not gonna do is disrespect Derek Fisher, but you're not gonna be.
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Oh, I'm sick of this notion that Frank is trash.
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Oh, time out.
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Go ahead.
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Go ahead. Go.
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How many of those guys that you just named were actually drafted by those teams? Well, none of them drafted the Oh, that's very true.
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But the oh, and we have you made our point before you, For example, you made a point.
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I know, but you named a bunch of second rounders and, uh, dudes, uh, and you're defending somebody that was drafted eighth.
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But I don't care about where you're drafted because exactly.
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Hold on any draft after after because they imagine a box picking Yanis and thinking he's gonna be a M V P at 15.
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That's a lot of you using.
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Right now.
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It looks like if you're going by that logic far as M V P.
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But you think they're really good.
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But we're not talking about 15.
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We talk about top 10.
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, wait, talking top 10.
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But don't place this negative or around, Frank, just because his first two seasons let's ask trade Frank.
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32 years I wanted to trading, huh? No.
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23 season.
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He finally learned how to play point guard.
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Let's be consistent.
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E show you guys how maybe you guys pass it once they across half court e brokered through that.
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He's the only one of them does that, But you gotta understand and fits that office.
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What was frank doing every time he came across Half court game? Okay, you answered? Yeah.
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What a day e keyword Right there.
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His dale e.
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There was no Kota.
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How can you? I'm sorry.
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I e trying to find a club where Franklin sleeve? Because breaking for doing not I always wanted a second front like that, but let me let no it friend literally has the best defensive stats against Luca Donkeys.
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We've seen him rookie year.
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Be the best offensive player off guard against the pick and roll you're talking about.
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Not your bro.
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Kevin Knox jumped over a bowl like a cartoon, and it rolled under him like Yo, bro.
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He has the worst awareness I've seen out of any player.
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Forget the offense, guy.
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Let's get bottle of backdoor screens, the guys confusing.
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Now the block thing is good.
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That's something you could build off of.
00:04:11
But Kevin Knox not wanna kill Frank, y'all sweet kid and killing Kevin knocks way e About not So is that they do not run enough.
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All those screens.
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They're basically like a plan to Kentucky.
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He doesn't way.
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First of all, you cannot call it God's Soul.
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Who's second on the team and blocks you can't e black you want with Julius Randle? 1000 minutes more than kicking knocks.
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Let's blocks That is that.
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That is fat.
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Julius Randle played 1000 more Minister Kevin, knock.
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Let's box that Z Yeah, go right now, Trump, if I'm lying, I'm flying.
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If I'm lying, knocks at a e o knocks at a point last season, has more blocks that Julius regular Bobby Portis combined and you praise empty sacks.
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Stop praising empty sacks.
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I'm sick of hearing about Jewish man who's 19 and a You're getting caught getting used to put up, like, 20 and 10 or whatever on, like, terrible tinge.
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I don't know where E Now look at this, right? Not 55th and blocks.
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Who knocks Mitchell Robinson.
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Two point. Oh, God.
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Zero A.
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Okay, come on, Chuck.
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E couldn't find Hey, Chuck.
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No, no, Chuck, if I couldn't find a Frank Miller Kina fastbreak, you got exact research options as well, too, man.
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Yes.
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Can I say something? E.
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I should look at block rate as opposed to just blocks, because not 4% versus the average compassion.
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And he's still not my saving grace with lots and my only defense of knots that he started playing basketball late So you could tell the way he plays, he lacks feel.
00:06:50
The one thing I will give him credit for is that I don't know if you guys notice it, but I see you travels with things, and, um, last week he was I before Knox last this past season, then I like knocks the year before because the year before Fizdale just get oh, that's a building.
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And, uh, I saw some.
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Actually, he actually was passing the ball on getting assists and clay making.
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Check it out.
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He Oh, between your lottery picks, mind you not Frank.
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RJ Mitch, please roll together.
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No, they don't forget the vets.
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Let's forget the best from one time.
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Let's forget the best straight our draft picks.
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They lost wealth.
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They go well together.
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That is because there was a lot of games naked, so the kids wasn't double digits.
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Both games with this insanity sisters.
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So this is one way is losing.
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Know Chuck.
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Chuck.
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I need context when we speak right.
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We watched every game.
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Ganamos.
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All right, game.
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Oh, wait.
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Watching a game when Nick Kids was plus 15 Philadelphia.
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And then when the best game in that game, The best lost that lead.
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And by the time kids getting back in the game, he was down 20.
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That's not back.
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I don't remember exactly which game was by.
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Do you remember when the Philadelphia game that not where Randall looked off our Jay in the corner? I don't think it is.
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That one, I think, is the one they played at home.
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Right where we're up, what we owe all out.
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Todd.
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30 e don't care about Taj.
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I don't care about Taj.
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I don't care about nobody.
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That's not in the future.
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I don't care about E 30 and 62 games.
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Uh huh.
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Knox had 2020 28 65 games.
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How many more minutes? The Taj straight and knocks.
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Now you want minutes a block.
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The blocks that blocks that in itself, a blocks that itself about proper context.
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Not is not the right thing to look at because we don't know if he's a week first of all blocks.
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I wanna say they as like, glint like they cut.
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You know, that's a glamour, but I want to speak.
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What are your What is your percentage? This is why I use with knots, and it did slightly.
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But it's still ah, positive French, which is not good.
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What is what is the average players field goal percentage and what is their field goal percentage when they're playing you and it's paused, its its higher when Knox is playing them versus their normal average, which is not good.
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So Zio back door slot back u T O b.
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The knock to the basket makes that stupid file where literally making the layup and not so hit him.
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It looks like it's like a terrible reaction, e a lot said.
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Well, he's flat footed.
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So he has a hey has terrible anticipation.
00:10:30
If you're not, if you're not like like the thing about guys like Shane Battier, guys like Bruce Bowen, you're right.
00:10:36
They don't have necessary the greatest athleticism or twitch, but it's all about anticipation in time and right.
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It's all about getting myself in the proper position to defend a certain place.
00:10:44
If I have a guy right there in a corner three and I don't like to make backdoor cuts the baseline with my friend, I am not letting him get that baseline.
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I'm gonna call up his baseline.
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It's always cut in front of me.
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Nazis, your little new one.
00:10:56
That's not coaching as well.
00:10:58
Like the coach not supposed to put it, Zeke, this basic things like Bruce random not being able to pass out the double team like you don't need Pat Riley to come down and tell you Hey, when they're coming way, they're not going to run the basketball, but they're not going to run the same stuff that way.
00:11:30
They're tired with center.
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Say it again for you.
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You're comparing times.
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Who's the starting center? So I was looking franchise that Z e don't care about the blocks that way.
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We owe significance of the block.
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The oh hold on.
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Give the significant of the block.
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It's the improvement compared Thio.
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It's the previous year where he was assisted this past year.
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This past year, that that's an improvement.
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The fact that he was blocking shots and knocks his future is not Bruce Bowen's or or any one of these great defensive players.
00:12:17
Okay, so his offense is gonna have to outweighs defense because he's not a great defender.
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So we know that.
00:12:23
So can I ask you a question that Rick War? Can I ask you a question that right? So this goes back to front now, right? So frank me and say New York believe and this is why I think Frank has pension because I think he's gotten terrible coaching right now.
00:12:37
You just said he's gonna have to work on his scoring right.
00:12:41
Knox is not an eso score when he drives to the basket.
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Very linear. He doesn't have a go.
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Thio have a lot's of game.
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He doesn't have a little elbow jumping.
00:12:49
None of that because he did not get the proper coach because you can't even with Frank.
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This is why I'm not like when he's crazy. Guys on Frank.
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I love Frank, but I've always said Frank has to marry his his game to the end game for Knox.
00:13:01
If he can't, they do not run similar things.
00:13:03
That Kentucky, where he's a primary target, right? He's being used to move off the ball and they're looking at getting around the street, giving the ball as he's moving.
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E don't do that.
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What does not have to do? What, what, what areas of his game you see now? Then you say All right, I could see him with a postgame or I could see him developing the yourself.
00:13:21
What is because I don't see it? No, I don't see it.
00:13:25
Nothing has the floater a little bit.
00:13:31
It's very linear.
00:13:32
There's no it zero e like he's played make independent.
00:13:39
He's going to need somebody just keep watching, uh, e improvements this past year at the point guard play, but I don't see it at NBA point guard level, even MBA backup point guard level.
00:13:54
So, to me, Frank his role.
00:13:57
He's as he's a secondary secondary playmaker, Not I don't.
00:14:01
I don't want him as a backup point guard or as a starting point guard.
00:14:06
He could.
00:14:07
He could play those positions, but you would have to have a team sat with offensive with.
00:14:13
Players are very proficient offensively because it's gonna facilitate and get people a lot of a lot of good looks.
00:14:20
But But here's the thing about it, and this is this is the thing.
00:14:23
It sucks because it's gonna depend on coaching, right? So first year, right? I saw glimpses of a post game like he really back down guys and a part of pain and shoot the foothold on them and shoot the little the little, uh, whatever you call it. E.
00:14:42
I'm not saying that again.
00:14:44
What? I'm trying to say that these coaches this is why guys like you know, Spoelstra.
00:14:50
I don't He may feel away, but this is why I like guys like it because they take a guy like Jimmy Butler who up his assist game.
00:14:55
And I know cysts aren't the only indicator of good facilitation.
00:14:58
But it is one of the indicators, right? He up his assistant six about six assists this year, right? And you see him operate a lot from the post.
00:15:06
Right? Is the same thing LeBron James did.
00:15:08
Loss to the Mavericks came back next year. Went to lodge.
00:15:10
Want do that stuff he tour.
00:15:11
Okay, See the new ******* by operating in the post, It's all about is not.
00:15:17
Let's think about getting a e o Frank, except, hey, why don't you get him against these smaller guys like Timber who happens basically almost foul him.
00:15:28
And if they want to double team Frank, If you started to score in the paint and pay against smaller guards, then he could pass out, which he can dio do that.
00:15:37
Frank was on the contract.
00:15:39
He won't scoring.
00:15:40
He won't score in the post for smaller guards.
00:15:42
He has no moves for one for two.
00:15:44
He's not backing nobody down.
00:15:46
He's right in the pocket.
00:15:47
E hold up like he need to be placed in the post.
00:15:52
He's not getting their off the dribble.
00:15:53
You know why he got to the post a lot when he was with Jeff Horn a sack? Because he ran the triangle.
00:16:00
And so he, like, put it like this.
00:16:03
R j a people a lot of people don't even notice.
00:16:07
But Jay Harris top prominently and points in the post per possession, like so.
00:16:17
E you know, e You know why you don't see it? Because big e paint, you can't crj operate.
00:16:35
This is not right.
00:16:38
Because when you sign when you sign for 19 million, right? You think this is why Disrespect Randall a lot.
00:16:47
We signed you to make us be better.
00:16:50
We don't sign you to make us look worse.
00:16:52
We didn't sign them for that.
00:16:54
But it's random, random position in the post.
00:16:57
I actually don't mind me.
00:16:59
Oh, no effort, No.
00:17:02
A e Waite, Both beast.
00:17:12
Uh huh.
00:17:13
But, Randall, I don't know what it is.
00:17:15
The random, randomly so offensive.
00:17:17
When I 80 went down down, Randall was more of ah, more of a willing facilitator with that.
00:17:24
Okay, See, with the pelicans, even after 80 went down, he comes to the Knicks who you could argue that at the same time, whatever I know Ju holidays on pelicans.
00:17:32
He's way better anybody on our team.
00:17:34
But for some reason, juice Randall.
00:17:36
He couldn't pass out the double team, which it amazes me.
00:17:40
I'm like dogs. You literally see them. I've seen Juice.
00:17:42
Randall see the double team coming.
00:17:44
He did a spin move into the baseline, dropped in and try Tokyo.
00:17:52
That's not like a 20 bro.
00:17:53
This is the thing about it is not like a truck.
00:17:55
Because if I see a double team coming and the guy I've seen times, guys, they're cutting into the lane, you make that pass.
00:18:01
If I see the double team coming, you make that, uh, participation past because that's it.
00:18:07
That's easy not to say.
00:18:08
Look, I'm not saying you can't miss slaves and stuff. That's the highest.
00:18:11
That's the higher field goal percentage.
00:18:12
Getting a shot at getting New Orleans.
00:18:16
No, no.
00:18:18
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
00:18:19
When All right.
00:18:20
So I'll admit when I when I was doing when I was looking at all the little veils was watching of, uh, the pelicans games.
00:18:26
I didn't really pick that up of him doing a bad job of passing out the double team.
00:18:30
But I mean, that goes to my point, like I don't know what a lot of guys, a lot of guys, a lot of guys the first time or the first season that they're put in a position where, where there, the guy that's getting doubled, it takes them a while to to know how to pass out of the double.
00:18:46
This guy's that struggle, that these guys have struggled passing out of double.
00:18:49
First of all, I don't want Randall.
00:18:50
Let me make it clear.
00:18:51
I don't want Randall on the team, so don't even a player.
00:19:09
I have a problem with him on this team.
00:19:11
I have a option.
00:19:14
That's what happened.
00:19:15
Yeah, e get rid of him.
00:19:20
Everything determined by that.
00:19:21
But that's determined by the quality of players you're playing with.
00:19:24
A lot of times, you know, you put random with another team.
00:19:27
He's not gonna be the number one.
00:19:28
I'll say this.
00:19:30
I'll say this, sir, I'll say this, sir, and I always go back to this.
00:19:33
Chris Rubber went to that King C understanding.
00:19:35
So I'm not saying Randall's Chris Webber.
00:19:37
Don't ever Chris Webber went to that Matt Kenny's team.
00:19:40
That was Garba Geo to the fullest and he lifted them with unselfish played.
00:19:45
He played in a post perimeter and also his passing.
00:19:49
He was way.
00:19:54
You just You just said the quality of players.
00:19:56
Now, if you look at that Kings team now, you know, obviously you had players that we've grown to grow.
00:20:02
That guy was good, right? Like Bobby Jackson E garbage before.
00:20:14
E don't like I don't hate Grandma.
00:20:23
I don't like it when we're when we're having these discussions and people pull examples from, like, 2030 years ago.
00:20:29
The game is different.
00:20:31
I'm sorry, Uh, only part of trying to make us that you can't have a guy.
00:20:38
And I'm not saying Randall, is that necessarily.
00:20:40
But even your sacrifice on the offensive end, right and also think about random defensively was terrible.
00:20:48
Terrible.
00:20:49
He's not obey topping.
00:20:50
Terrible, but he was inconsistent at best.
00:20:52
His best game, I think, was like that Rockets game where we won that game.
00:20:55
That was the best offensive game.
00:20:57
I see him play for the Nixon years. Randall.
00:20:59
If he gave more of an effort right? I think Randall is that he's.
00:21:03
He's too muscle bound, right? So a lot of that energy.
00:21:06
He expends a lot of energy offensively.
00:21:08
He doesn't have any energy, doesn't have any standard.
00:21:10
Doesn't have any endurance, Right? You saw that? He did that.
00:21:12
Weightlifting from whatever.
00:21:14
That's great.
00:21:15
If you wanna be a body builder and an MBA, we have to run up the floor.
00:21:17
He did Republicans to where he's heaving up the floor.
00:21:20
He's not getting back on it like he's.
00:21:22
He has too much weight on him.
00:21:23
So even defensively he's inconsistent because he just doesn't have his body is not conditioned.
00:21:27
E only my only thing.
00:21:31
It was ran.
00:21:32
He's the best we had.
00:21:33
And then you know what? And he wasn't He wasn't the only problem.
00:21:35
He was part of the problem.
00:21:36
There was multiple problems with this team.
00:21:38
So and I hate when we just pick one coaching the front office.
00:21:45
I mean, we've probably had some of the worst front office, uh, maker and then literally think that was not a coach because I literally watched every game.
00:21:55
You know, what was not was the last coach of the New York Knicks.
00:21:59
That was good.
00:22:00
Like legit No, no, no, no.
00:22:02
Just tell me who? The last coach of the New York Knicks.
00:22:04
You know what? Why? Everybody act like he never existed.
00:22:09
He could 44 days that 66.
00:22:11
Can we stop talking about this deal with 22 games? Might never.
00:22:14
44 way e You gonna bring up if you're gonna bring up the office and total we gotta pick on somebody so we gotta pick on his way.
00:22:29
Let's talk about some constructive.
00:22:31
So understandable.
00:22:34
So let's let's get past this part.
00:22:37
I want to get to the real conversation.
00:22:40
Right? What is it? What it thinks Chris Paul and Russell Westbrook.
00:22:52
So it's me.
00:22:57
Oh, what do you want? You know, it depends because, Okay, D C o K c.
00:23:14
I'm not trading Frank lots in the first round pick.
00:23:18
I'm not trading like Russell Westbrook.
00:23:21
Like you can have that if you trade for Chris Paul Russell Westbrook.
00:23:24
The reason why trade for one of those two is to make those guys.
00:23:27
What are you gonna give up, huh? What do you use on the Dallas 2023 pick? You give up the essay, and that's where you get to go Like I read an article where say, Tim's they basically saying that Tim's Arjun mentions off limits.
00:23:44
And then Tim's got a soft spot for Frank, supposedly because we know he's always a trade off.
00:23:49
They didn't mention nothing about not so I'm not gonna include knocks but Chris Paul or Rust with R. J.
00:23:57
Knox, Mitch Frank and use the rest of the cat insurance.
00:24:03
I don't see how that's a bad team. Toe watch.
00:24:06
I don't get wary.
00:24:10
Oh, you really you say the word toe watch.
00:24:15
You didn't say no Watch actually get back just to watch.
00:24:20
But will they win? Let me make it more simple.
00:24:22
I think any point guard is better than Alfred paying.
00:24:25
So let's let's start there.
00:24:26
I haven't watched any other point guard without offense than Alfred Peyton.
00:24:31
I don't care who the point guard is.
00:24:33
So Alfred Payne's best from Randall, by the way, he had the O quicker we know.
00:24:43
So So Cp three could help Frank at Knox, but not be S J.
00:24:49
Let me stay no point guard and I'm gonna repeat this.
00:24:57
No point you want that? No point guard that's ever played in the MBA that has played over 20,000 minutes and that's about 35 years old has been eso every point guard that very next season declines.
00:25:16
So my fear about Chris Paul is we get him.
00:25:20
And in terms of the Toney Douglas, that's my fear e Russell Westbrook.
00:25:32
Because Ross, I like my next team to take on his mentality.
00:25:38
E o don't say New York, you know you might do city.
00:25:47
They sleep, don't kill.
00:25:49
All right? You my guys, I've been, you know, Come on.
00:25:52
So, what's wrong? This e exchanging of the jersey, exchanging of the jerseys, shaking of the hands after getting your ass with 20 morning trying to extend the jersey with weight after losing my 30.
00:26:10
I'm sick again.
00:26:11
I'm sick of the bottom puts on the floor.
00:26:14
I'm sick of this ****.
00:26:15
E a lot of Chris Pol e What is what is it? What a e Barretto Have any persons mentality? E Russell Westbrook mentality o r j back Holder R. J. Barrett.
00:26:41
I mean is a self.
00:26:42
He's a self sufficient dude like you see Hey, you have given the battery.
00:26:46
He already comes from that line of what his father first and foremost and see, now he comes.
00:26:50
He already has a pedigree.
00:26:52
Russell Westbrook is a type of dude that he'll come to the Knicks and he'll pull that.
00:26:57
Okay, see? Hey, stuff my status.
00:26:59
I'll get a triple double.
00:27:00
And when we get to the playoffs, I'm trying to dip it off to you.
00:27:03
Thio you.
00:27:09
Westbrook Westbrook is holed up.
00:27:11
You just mentioned about players in over 35.
00:27:14
Whatever, right? I think what it's for, right? Just real quick, Right? Chris? Paul is off that Andre Miller mindset like these point guards who they are trying and Chris Paul's and way better scoring Andre Miller.
00:27:26
Well, he's the last of a dying breed where they get guys easy possessions, right? So you're talking about all the guys on our team who can create their own shots.
00:27:35
They can't really do much offensively.
00:27:37
They're not that town offensively, Chris Paul will get those guys in position.
00:27:41
So he is a coach on the floor now.
00:27:43
His body is breaking down.
00:27:44
He is getting older.
00:27:46
Maybe get him as a stop gap for the last few years on his contract.
00:27:49
I take him or and you can cause.
00:27:51
First of all, you can have Chris Paul here, and you could draft a guy who may not be a top guard who could develop into that say, like a Karen Lewis, right? Oh, I'm very enough.
00:28:03
You may not like Carol Lewis, but there's a guy who has certain chapters, like if he develops like this is still, um, could be this right.
00:28:11
Who's pause? The type of guy I think FDA would not would not be in the same trajectory that we all think he will be.
00:28:16
Be thes a black girl e over the West.
00:28:39
Westbrook is a I'm sorry.
00:28:41
I was Westbrook fan for years.
00:28:44
Hurt me one of the more.
00:28:52
He still wanted most explosive players I've ever seen, but that's all.
00:28:55
He predicates his game off explosiveness.
00:28:58
He doesn't know the game on a higher level.
00:29:00
Besides, let me just drive to basket.
00:29:02
If the defense collapse on me and I can't make the shot e for you.
00:29:12
What? What? You get the shot off the backboard right from the from their baseline, right? You look like a on his wheels like 80 was off of him and e defend Westbrook for a second e Don't do that.
00:29:31
You have something? You said that He's the guy that's gonna put his stat.
00:29:36
And then when we make the playoffs, So you already conceding that he's gonna lead us to the playoffs? E.
00:29:49
I'm saying compassionate CP three as well, too.
00:29:52
Okay, let me finish my point.
00:29:55
My point.
00:29:57
With regards to CP three, I prefer TP three over Westbrook, a well for contract reason.
00:30:02
And I think cp three It's a better point guard and will make players there.
00:30:05
But you said that secrecy makes that other players better.
00:30:09
Westbrook does the same thing, but in a different way.
00:30:11
The fact that he pushes the pace, That creates a lot of easy, easier transitional opportunities for guys that that are not very good in the half court.
00:30:20
And get these buckets that way.
00:30:21
So you mean like guys like Depot? Oh, crap.
00:30:24
No can use him like the bonus.
00:30:25
Use him.
00:30:27
E o man.
00:30:40
My God, doing this All these plays that Westbrook makes better and they all left him and did way better.
00:30:46
Another team, right? We all We all agree that finish let's finish it is important. I'm sorry.
00:30:55
Oh, you really low is important, right? Chuck? Your mike is really look is low.
00:31:01
You kinda gotta move closer.
00:31:02
So I'm sure, kind of.
00:31:05
What about now? Alright.
00:31:09
Way.
00:31:10
All agree that drafting is important, right? One of the keys to build it? Yeah.
00:31:14
Just so Yeah, you passed the cover of Quick Beloved.
00:31:29
So we should agree that this trend mic up, man, E u I think he's fine now, but it might.
00:31:38
It might be.
00:31:39
It is you. Freeze! Put some clothes on.
00:31:42
E guns, man.
00:31:45
That's tax. Our Jim Duggan over there, man.
00:31:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got carnival.
00:31:50
No, you don't.
00:31:53
You don't.
00:31:54
All right, so So we should be able to agree that reason the the recent collapse is due.
00:32:01
Toa frank.
00:32:03
It all starts with Frank now.
00:32:06
You e o.
00:32:19
Uh huh.
00:32:20
You already agreed with me.
00:32:21
Drafting is important.
00:32:23
A k a good pick.
00:32:30
Good pick.
00:32:31
Right after that, Frank.
00:32:35
Uh huh.
00:32:36
It started to go downhill now because Oh, my God.
00:32:46
You take knots instead of s G.
00:32:50
J.
00:32:51
Uh, Alexander, um, that that continue? It's a domino effect.
00:32:57
Uh, once you draft bad, you up until you fix that problem.
00:33:03
No, that's called that's called doesn't know what they're doing because you know why? Even though if you see a guy that you drive, you can always say, Look, we're going to this draft s She is a way, way, way better process what we have.
00:33:16
You know what? Your point is proven wrong because you wouldn't You wouldn't bring so many creation point guards to the team.
00:33:25
So that means that they knew that Frank wasn't the answer in their eyes that they went into that graph again.
00:33:30
They got convinced by a workout by not work out whatever should never sway you.
00:33:38
There's only maybe emboldened you want to say Okay, you want to play that year instead of instead of knots? Yeah.
00:33:48
You pick a so young Michael Carter Jr E.
00:33:52
Oh, no, no, no, that's not inside.
00:33:55
Everybody saying Michael put a junio.
00:33:57
This dude literally had he could not even go to the oh, he couldn't go to the workouts because he had debilitating that that issue chronic E o.
00:34:08
So a luxury pick? The nuggets were good.
00:34:12
There is a luxury pick now.
00:34:14
He looks good about Oh, ****.
00:34:15
No, he was not grow.
00:34:16
He made going.
00:34:17
Todo might not play a game next, bro, You have the building.
00:34:22
Probably genetic back injuries.
00:34:24
You never know when it could go.
00:34:25
His old families jacked up has had, like, 100 surgeries and his brother can't even make the lead because he's all Jack Kemp's s Finish your draft.
00:34:37
Thank you.
00:34:38
Thank you E o real quickly before you finished.
00:34:47
Now when they drafted Frank mind you, fish.
00:34:50
That was the first time head coach they're doing draft Frank.
00:34:53
Phil Jackson drafted Frank Frank and got fired the next day.
00:34:57
And then on top of that, Frank was drafted for the triangle.
00:35:00
So let's let's keep that in mind.
00:35:02
But also, one more caveat.
00:35:05
Things that had the smallest developmental staff way.
00:35:14
Alright for Alright, alright, Bye for Rick.
00:35:17
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:35:20
So that's it.
00:35:22
That that *** Fizdale is not the first time Head coach.
00:35:26
Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah.
00:35:28
You wanna be with you? Wasn't even the questions Rookie year.
00:35:33
****, He was so horrible.
00:35:34
It felt like it.
00:35:35
God just just just said that just to show you it's a domino effect.
00:35:41
Uh huh.
00:35:44
Instead of Frank, they took Kuzma.
00:35:47
You wouldn't have you wouldn't have been looking at.
00:35:49
That's the same draft.
00:35:51
You wouldn't have been looking at Knox that next year Knox had a better work.
00:35:56
I'd rather Noxon Koosman.
00:35:58
I'm sorry. It's a different draft.
00:36:00
Different draft.
00:36:01
I get your point.
00:36:03
E s o.
00:36:05
So your point.
00:36:07
So the point.
00:36:08
So real quick, Real quick.
00:36:09
Your point is that we don't draft Frank.
00:36:12
Then we would have never drafted knocks.
00:36:14
So that's dominant.
00:36:16
Alright, Alright, if that's all I understand.
00:36:19
I understand.
00:36:20
I wear my back.
00:36:22
I need Hey said he had some doubts about Killian.
00:36:24
Hes don't wanna have my killing in his discussion with Yeah, you already.
00:36:29
It's funny.
00:36:31
You know, Kelly Hayes trained for months for you.
00:36:36
I'm scared about what Kellyanne hates right.
00:36:39
It's not me and your opinion I'm scared about.
00:36:42
It's the blog's the media the way it's gonna be like, you know how we picked Frank, bro.
00:36:50
He flight from France and blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:52
You know how people who's gonna take killing Hayes pick.
00:36:55
That's the That's all the reason why I think like the Knicks is not gonna take killing Jesus killing us for like i e you said you had you had a million.
00:37:06
So let me hear on.
00:37:09
Say what you want to hear.
00:37:10
What? You know, your prose.
00:37:18
He said you had doubts about killing Hayes, and he wanted the arm here.
00:37:21
Um, who has out e actually. E.
00:37:28
I was going to be positive on him.
00:37:30
Actually, I think there's certain things, but I mean, one thing is that he depends a lot on that pick and roll.
00:37:35
Um, so you need the offense.
00:37:38
Is gonna use that a lot with him, but I think I forgot what I read this.
00:37:41
I think he had, like, a pretty good percentage on like he likes to step back. Jumper, obviously.
00:37:47
You know, he has to get better.
00:37:48
That his jump shot.
00:37:50
Overall, I think he's got 37% from three.
00:37:53
I might be 36.
00:37:55
I got the number for you.
00:37:56
Got the shot. 29.
00:37:59
I think that might be thinking careless.
00:38:02
My dad tried 35 30 shots, 39% from three in the Euro cup.
00:38:07
It was a It was a 10 game tournament at the end, so he got hot at the end of the season in shot 39.
00:38:15
He shoots the three off the dribble at a very high could.
00:38:20
He shoots it almost like 42%.
00:38:22
But catch and shoot.
00:38:24
It is horrible.
00:38:26
So most young players, it's the opposite.
00:38:29
Most young players is easier for them to shoot Thio and shoot off the dribble.
00:38:35
Eso off the dribble, shooting on.
00:38:39
If you factor the fact that it's almost like a 90% free throw shooter, I'm not concerned about the catch and shoot, and then he didn't have a lot of catch and shoot opportunities because

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