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And let's simply get Episode 22 started for today's discussion.
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As many of you guys are looking at Right now, we're all decked out in our purple and gold as the Los Angeles Lakers are 2000 and 20 champions, the first time in 10 years the Lakers have poisoned up a banner.
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And this banner 17 is tied with the most titles in MBA history with the Boston Celtics.
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We will also discuss what that championship means for LeBron James legacy.
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Does it itch him closer to MJ? Or does MJ have, you know, just head and shoulders above everybody? Well, then talk about the Dak Prescott is devastating injury what it means for the Dallas Cowboys.
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How do they go from there? How much trust should Cowboy fans have an Andy Dalton, or is it panic time for them? And then we'll transition that in tow.
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The Dan Quinn firing from Atlanta and their GM as well.
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And also Lady on Bill, is a part of the Kansas City Chiefs big news that broke today.
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We're gonna discuss how much of a threat that makes to the Kansas City Chiefs, who are already a legit team, and just add add more weapons to that surefire offense.
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And then we'll close out the episode with recapping all the stuff that went down in in week five.
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So let's get things started with the first part of discussion.
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The Lakers are MBA champs.
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I'll start off with my co host, Caleb.
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But then to my guest.
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Caleb, how do you feel? Amazing. Amazing.
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We start off every decade.
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I wanna let that be known.
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Uh, 2000 Lakers 2010 Lakers 2020 Lakers again, way.
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Start off every decade and you know, it's normal **** to us.
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Way normalized this type of ****.
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So, you know, we got it done again.
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We're going inside.
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Do another three peat.
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If not, we'll see where we go.
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Um, e amazing.
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How's everybody else? E mean, I'm feeling great, you know? I know.
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We see Nick Doremus here saying this a Lakers special? Hell, yes.
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The Lakers special.
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You let us live right now. This is what's up.
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This is our time, uh, me and Alex, where I could speak for him as well.
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I know we're ecstatic to be here.
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Any show of the unwrapped sports family members is always a fun show for us.
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Me and him were just doing an NFL unwrapped episode on on Tuesday night with Josh Wineries and Christian McGowan, my co founder.
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So that was really fun as well.
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You could check that out on the unwrapped sports Twitter again.
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I put up the ticker for you guys so you could check out our codes and everything as the show goes on and check it out.
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But for me, how I'm feeling.
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I'm in Los Angeles, Burbank, to be exact.
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The energy is great.
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We are champions again. Caleb.
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Hit it right on the nose.
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We are topping off every decade.
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With the little championship, we will take it.
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We love it.
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Obviously, as we talked about pre show, we haven't been to the championship nor playoffs in quite a while.
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It's been seven years, and since Kobe left, it really seems like we haven't found that answer how to get back.
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And we finally found it. Magic Johnson.
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As much as he screwed a couple things up, he did set us up for success, paving the way by bringing LeBron and showing him the route to becoming a successful mogul on and off the court and with his media and production ventures.
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Obviously, it's perfect for LeBron and then with Rob Pelinka.
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He deserves all the respect in the world.
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He pulled out every move you could.
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He got a D which everyone thought he maybe overpaid.
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I told him, Yo, you add my apartment, Go add anything that I have Thio on top of the players that were given up to get Anthony Davis.
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You bring him to town that is going to lead with success and you see what happened.
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And it's not just that, you know, Kawhi Leonard was supposed to come to the Lakers.
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We went all in.
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Rob Pelinka was waiting.
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He led a lot of good free agents, sign other places, and we didn't get quite Leonard.
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So he happened to put together a string of about 10 signings Within 48 hours, it seemed like and it was boom, boom, boom.
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Anyone and everyone that was available and the right fit.
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We all questioned Quinn Cook and Jared Dudley and why would be adding these guys and this and that, But you're adding the right guys around a good core.
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Alex Caruso stepped up in a big way.
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I won't continue with the whole breakdown, obviously of how we got there and how we want it.
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But Rob Pelinka is an awesome, awesome guy at the helm.
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And I love him making moves for the Lakers, and he deserves a ton of respect.
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I am ecstatic.
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Elated, however you want a word, it I could not be happier, Alex.
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I'm assuming you feel the same way.
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Yeah, I know. For me.
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I mean, I I felt bad for my driver, Who was I was coming back from Vegas M kitty three.
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He has a Clippers fan.
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So, you know, I was being loud and obnoxious in that car on the way back, but, yeah, I know it's great.
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And, you know, it was also brought up in the chat.
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We are a very privileged fan base in terms of, you know, the teams that you know the Lakers have been able to put together.
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But regardless, you know, is this title town we expect to be in and out or somewhere involved with the playoffs with the contention for the for the finals trophy.
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But yeah, I know it was beautiful and then it was just the perfect ending to what we all hoped would happen after the passing of Kobe Bryant.
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So shout out to LeBron and everybody being down there, sacrificing all that time and energy toe to be in that bubble, which, you know, shout out to Adam Silver.
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You know, the bubble being ran better than our country right now.
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It is.
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It is just an incredible feeling.
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I definitely like and I just started seeing those Kobe tributes and tears to my eyes, you know, growing up like in California, Kobe and those championships, Man, it's just forever in my in my memory bank.
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And you know, now I get to see LeBron and now a d sharing the in the memory bank of being a Lakers fan.
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So, yeah, it was an amazing feeling.
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So amazing definitely was a definite was a great feeling for all of us fans.
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Almost fans, for sure.
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Let's let's talk about what this means for LeBron James. Legacy.
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So now LeBron James NBA finals record is now four and six, which is a lot better than three and seven.
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I'll just direct it off toe.
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Any one of you guys, I'll start off with our special guest Perry.
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What does this mean from LeBron's legacy? Does it itch him closer? So, Michael Jordan, or does it suppress MJ? If you're gonna ask me, I've already thought that he was personally the best player of all time before this, and you're comparing personal careers, personal accolades, personal statistics, team team accolades, championships.
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Obviously, you can't be spoken to as a great until you've been there and done that.
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But once you get past winning that once winning that twice now, it's just okay.
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Let's individualized each player and look at what they've been able to do in the in whatever respected sport that they're in.
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And are.
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Is it MJ's fault that he was blessed with some of the best teams of all time? Although hated Kraus, one of the better general managers of all time, as well as the best coach of all time? Is it his fault that he was blessed with that? Absolutely not.
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He Did he have to go move around the league piece things together during that era? No, he did not.
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That's not what the era was, and even if it was, he wasn't in a spot that he had to. They were blessed.
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Blessed would be an understatement.
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So not that it, like, you know, diminishes MJ and the kind of player that he is.
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But people highlight that.
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Six for six champion ships like it's on Lee him.
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You know, LeBron James.
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Do you see the car that he was dealt when he was drafted to the Cavaliers, the team that he took to the Finals with Zydrunas Ilgauskas and all of these guys on that team? They were nobody's.
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This had seriously.
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LeBron James going to eight straight MBA finals, nine out of 10 N b A Finals as a personal player and a smudges.
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I love Kobe.
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Unfortunately, he's not number two.
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I wouldn't even have him in the top five rest in peace to one of the greatest players that I've ever watched.
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But, um, he's more along the lines of like seven or eight.
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There's been some insane all time greats, so if you look at the list, he's right there with Tim Duncan right around seven or eight.
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But I would definitely say that it's no doubt MJ and LeBron up there one and two.
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You can't even if it is, that's more of a nostalgic reason or personal bias, but it's M.
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J and LeBron one and two.
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They've both separated themselves with a Grand Canyon sized gap and then 34567 through 10.
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So it's not even a question.
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They're doing things that you can't even comprehend.
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MJ, the most efficient champion of all time, 6461 of the most transcendent, one of the most influential athletes of all time.
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And he blew up his brand when there wasn't social media when there wasn't any of that stuff that helped along the way.
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So that shows how amazing he was in that era.
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It's also there wasn't as much talent in the league.
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There wasn't the same era of teaming up.
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It's different times, different eras, and it is tough to compare eras necessarily.
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But you're also comparing 18 years of basketball in comparison to MJ's career, which was much shorter.
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And for whatever reason, you know him walking away, going to different sport, whatever it may have been, it's It's a personal career, like the points, the assist, the river.
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It doesn't matter, like every statistic is going to lean towards the guy that's been in the League more Who's had, um, or established career? Um, you can think of who is the most skilled player in your head of all time, but I think we're comparing Who's the Who's had the greatest careers of all time, and that's when when you look at it like that, I think it's LeBron James as an individual player, and he's had to do what he's had to do.
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Go to Miami, come back to Cleveland, go to L.
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A.
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He's had to do these things because he's never had support.
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He's never had a great coach.
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Hey made Spoelstra the great coach that he is.
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Spoelstra.
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It was a good coach, but he wasn't an accomplished coach.
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He didn't have a lot of years of experience.
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And then you get to coach three of the best players currently in the MBA.
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So LeBron James is also just like M J, one of the leaders of their decade, one of the most transcendent players of all time, one of the most brand herbal players of all time.
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But you're comparing a guy who's played four or five years longer and personally didn't matter where he's been, what team he's been on.
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He was in eight straight NBA finals, nine out of 10 and now he's got four.
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So once he wins that fifth ring, it's not even going to be a debate anymore from an individual standpoint.
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So I'll let people still run with their MJ nostalgic takes at this point.
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Shout out, Nick, shout out, Mark, shout out Everyone there.
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I watched the last dance to It was awesome, but it doesn't change the fact that you're still watching the greatest athlete to ever play any sport of all time.
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And he is still playing adding accolades to that resume.
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So, uh, maybe it maybe a few years before he gets his flowers.
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But I've been saying that even before he got to the Lakers, I said, This is the greatest athlete of anyone's time.
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It's the greatest athlete of any sport and you can call that a hot take.
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But it's not.
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So there's my opinion.
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Call it, Call it sizzling.
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Call it correct.
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Whatever you want. Shadow MJ. Transcendent.
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Amazing.
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Um, he was just extremely lucky and extremely blessed.
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Um, it wasn't all lucky.
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And it wasn't all other people, but his situation couldn't be better.
00:14:01
And if it wasn't from walking away, maybe would have won seven.
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You know, it feels if Jerry Krause wasn't such an *******, maybe they would have won seven or eight.
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So maybe that would have been not even a discussion then.
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But that's theoretical, isn't it? He walked away, you know.
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He cut his career short, so that's his fault.
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But LeBron didn't.
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So he has the most highlighted accomplished career of all time.
00:14:22
So definitely good points there.
00:14:24
I also wanna throw throw the same question out to my co host, Caleb Content.
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Do you? How do you believe this effects? LeBron's legacy? Do you basically have the same points like Perry said, or do you have any other other sides? Thio said.
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I actually oh, Gate, it's all around player.
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I do think he's the greatest all around player.
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Did you ever play the game? Um, but I think he's going to score.
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No, e, don't.
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I think you what What's what's your list? What's your list? You just you can't.
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I just don't think you could put him in front of like will to can't put in front of magic.
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You can't put him in front of Larry, Bill, Bill, Bill Russell.
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You know, there's just so many guys that if you look back on their career, I mean, he's the most accomplished champion that's ever played any sport of all time.
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You know, I'm just and I mean, it's just it's just he played when the league was also half its size and it was right.
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There was also half the teams e I mean, Askew said.
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Kobe is Kobe is one of the greatest scores of all time and one of the greatest competitors of all time, one of the greatest people of all time.
00:15:45
But you know, just just because I'm in Los Angeles and I had season tickets, so like there's most of my life.
00:15:50
I met Kobe multiple times.
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It doesn't change the fact that there were people before him that rank higher all the time.
00:15:57
Yeah, I feel you and I feel you and it's all just opinion based, Really, I said it's very true, but I really, honestly think I who I've seen, I haven't seen.
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But wrestle played, of course, of course, of course, a whole other story.
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But Kobe, I think he's top three.
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If not number one as far as putting the bar in the bucket.
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A Sfar as being the greatest basketball player ever? I do think so.
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Skill set wise. Yes.
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Greatest basketball leader ever.
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Yes, I do think so.
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He's with any young aspiring asked me coming up right now.
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Should wanna be ****ing starting schools production companies.
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He's made the right move.
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Hey, put his boys in position of power the right way without ****ing ****ing his money off.
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So, I mean, he did a lot of things the right way.
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Um, so I think for that, yes, his legacy is already, you know, the top.
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But when it comes to rings, he's been there.
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Hell, a lot of times.
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****ing 89 times in the last 10 years, which is amazing.
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That's nobody's doing that.
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But I think for him the top N j.
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Just because MJ so efficient he's gonna have to get one more.
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He's gonna have to get one more just for him toe to top it.
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And if he gets six, it's ****ing over.
00:17:21
It's ****ing over.
00:17:22
And if he gets seven, it's done. Set it up.
00:17:24
It's done already.
00:17:25
Uh, but the fact that he's got three with three different organizations, all in VP.
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You can't.
00:17:35
You can't.
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I mean, because follow follow trends follow trends on that happens to be all around one individual for the last 15 years.
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10 specifically.
00:17:47
So I mean, Alex, what's your take up, bro? I feel like I'm one of the very few that are from my generation that, you know, didn't grow up watching MJ That actually still has MJ above LeBron.
00:18:00
If you're talking greatest overall talent, of course you put LeBron it number one because, I mean, he's He played point guard this year for the first time and led the league in assists.
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So you know his skill and his Yeah.
00:18:13
No, no, for sure, for sure.
00:18:14
But I still have MJ over him.
00:18:15
I mean, six for six.
00:18:17
Look, you can get to the game is many times, but when you're talking about, you're talking about the goat.
00:18:22
But it is.
00:18:24
But it isn't, is it is LeBron for for Tom Brady.
00:18:30
For all those times that that he's lost.
00:18:31
Has anybody else gotten close to that? What he's done? What was that for? Everything that Tom Brady has done, you know, he's had a couple rough loss in the Super Bowl.
00:18:40
Is there anybody else that's been close to what he's done? No, I mean usually be Peyton Manning would be the next, probably on the list.
00:18:45
That would be the next accomplished, but it's also Tom Brady.
00:18:48
You know, there's that ongoing question of, you know, and now we're seeing it.
00:18:51
Now It is it have to do with Bill.
00:18:54
And is it Tom Brady's fault that he's been blessed with some of the best, the best organization, the best potentially coach in the NFL history? And but that Zao the cookie crumbles? I mean, you could you could be, ah, player that goes toe Zaw statistically.
00:19:11
But statistically, he's also the go, and he's also never walked away from the game toe where it's like, Well, if you if he was there for five more years, he's been there.
00:19:18
He's 40 something years old.
00:19:19
You can put the numbers, the statistics, the championships, everything in front.
00:19:23
While MJ it's, you know, the efficiency of the championships is attached, obviously most champion of all time and the most influential era of that time and probably still not just on the court but in culture with the Jordans and you know, everything like that.
00:19:38
But again, like, you know, you're comparing a guy where the scientists really aren't even that close anymore and anything like that.
00:19:44
And it's Oh, because he walked away and stuff and it's, Yeah, people can just keep hanging on to the six for six.
00:19:50
You know, there's too many things that LeBron has done as an individual player that it's like, How do you just ignore the fact that this is a great greatest time? It relates to successes, though like greatest, it is accomplished.
00:20:03
That's why greatest, greatest individual players in terms of ability.
00:20:07
****, yeah, put him right there in terms of greatest all time of the sport.
00:20:11
I can't put him there yet once you get finals appearances like everything along those lines, like right now, like out of the to the Buffalo Bills.
00:20:18
Teams that made all the Super Bowls are they? Are they top teams in NFL history? I don't know.
00:20:24
I don't know.
00:20:26
I don't know why that's relevant. I just don't know why that's relevant.
00:20:28
Know what I'm saying is right now Jordan has the most rings.
00:20:33
He did it the most efficient way.
00:20:34
Yes, LeBron hasn't No, no, no.
00:20:37
I'm seeing in terms of like in terms of in terms, of the better players he has the most right.
00:20:43
And unless you want to Robert Hardy And there have that.
00:20:46
But the exact way conversation, though it's like if you are just talking about that.
00:20:51
What? Why isn't Robert there? I'm just saying I'm just saying it, But if it's just like Okay, well, six for six.
00:20:58
There's so many players that have that many champion.
00:21:01
There's so many players that have four or 56 that are not even at.
00:21:04
We can't even consider them all stars not like and and that where it's like that's all you're gonna lean on.
00:21:10
But statistically, it's not even like it's almost like a joke.
00:21:13
It's almost a joke now you know statistically and you also look at the fact that didn't matter where he's gone.
00:21:19
The MBA's revolved around one man, not revolved around one team, the Chicago Bulls, but revolved around one man.
00:21:27
It Z.
00:21:28
I understand what you're saying, and of course, everything that you say and everyone else says this valley, it's all opinionated.
00:21:33
Of course, I'm just passionate Everyone's passionate it, of course, when it comes to the goat debate.
00:21:37
But you know, I do tend to look at were you are talking about who is the most gifted, who is the most skilled, who is the most talent, who is statistically the best that way.
00:21:46
75% while the rings would be the other 25 since it's half oven individual standpoint, half of a team standpoint and and M J was the most blessed player of all time besides potentially.
00:21:59
You know, Tim Duncan was blessed.
00:22:00
Aziz well, but like, other than that, like Bill Russell was blessed with Red are back in a week league.
00:22:05
But MJ was and is it his fault that he had the best coach of all time and some of the best teams of all time? ****, no, like good for him.
00:22:11
But LeBron's never been even like people laugh.
00:22:14
When you say this is one of the best teams of all time, the Lakers, because they're not then the heat, the Cavs, none of them, you know in reality, it's because you have the greatest athlete of all time and it doesn't ****ing matter who you have on the team where you can't say that with MJ.
00:22:27
But he also could be like, Well, if he did leave, it probably would have been like that.
00:22:30
But it's all theoretical, you know what I mean? So it's a lot of theoretical.
00:22:34
I would say What? Statistically, I'll go head count.
00:22:37
I think the real question is, um how how big of the emphasis are we putting on the ring? Absolutely.
00:22:46
They have to have an emphasis, though.
00:22:48
Has to have an emphasis, but it has to have, like, what? Percentage out of 100.
00:22:52
You know, if you're considering statistics you're considering, you know your own accolades, as in all Stars, MVPs, all these different things, what percentage of you as an individual would that way and then what percentage would strictly be? How many championships do you have? You know, out of 100 would you say it's 50 50? Would you say it's 75% more for the individual standpoint, and then 25% debating attack team statistic happen dual.
00:23:15
So I guess that depends on how you look at it.
00:23:17
But if anything, it has to be 50 50 in my opinion, if not skewed more towards looking at the individual as an individual and then also the team statistics secondary, you know? Yeah, you guys, you guys make a lot of great points there.
00:23:33
I I think LeBron is close, but I don't think he's passed him yet.
00:23:38
The one thing I'll agree with Oliver is what Caleb says.
00:23:41
If he gets a 53 next year or sixth, this debate is over.
00:23:46
But in my opinion, if he had a better record before this 10th n b a Finals appearance, if he did it if he didn't choke that MBA Finals in 2011 or if he did underperform in some moments in 2014 if you were instead of three and six, if we were four and five or five, but is But is it better to lose in the first round? Multiple times like MJ and the Bulls did multiple times, while LeBron's never less so, it's better to go toe eight straight champion, eight straight championships, 10 and nine out of 10 and have a worse finals record but never losing the first round and you're there every single year.
00:24:18
But it's no one talks about the fact that M.
00:24:20
J and the Bulls have lost multiple first round playoff series.
00:24:23
So, like what's, what's more important? The fact that he's six for six when they got there, but the other four or five times they didn't get there? Or is it important that LeBron's been there? Didn't matter what team, what chemistry, no matter where they were.
00:24:35
And he's there year in and year out, and you're going to compare finals records.
00:24:39
But the fact that you're saying that homeboy has been there for X amount of finals where MJ and the Bulls have lost in that first round multiple times It didn't matter what scrubs and let's say, Scrubs, that LeBron played with throughout his career.
00:24:51
With the exception of a couple of those teams, mainly the Miami Heat and now the Lakers, he will those teams to the chance to get a championship urine and you're out.
00:25:02
What like that's what I'm saying.
00:25:03
You say six for six.
00:25:05
But like no one remote like, how many times has he lost in the first round, second round? Like LeBron James, you look back at that and it's not even a similar kind of thing because it didn't matter where he is or who he's with.
00:25:15
He's there because of the individual and the greatness that they're in a much more competitive league, too.
00:25:20
People you got guys in the G League that are like, What the **** is that guy eating for breakfast? How the hell is he not playing in the N B A.
00:25:28
And you look at some of MJ's competition and they're me 5 ft 11 £165 Caucasian guards like me in high school.
00:25:37
You look at the ****ing measurements, bro.
00:25:39
That, like a guy like that, would not succeed in this league with the exception of a few athletic freaks.
00:25:45
And you've got a guy like Alex Crusoe throw that guy's name.
00:25:47
He's still 6 ft two, I think, and you see the hops that that guy has.
00:25:52
Do you think John Paxton had the hops that Alex Caruso has, or even half of the athleticism? It's not even a ****ing competition.
00:25:59
M.
00:26:00
J succeeded at a time where there wasn't even half the athleticism that there is in 2020 2010 2000, and people say that LeBron played in this kind of softer era.
00:26:09
He played in the dead ball era.
00:26:11
He played in the Ron Artest era.
00:26:12
He played in that era, and now he's playing.
00:26:15
In this era, he's been in multiple eras and has not just been the best, but not even a close debate for the best player in the world and the most accomplished player in the world.
00:26:25
So versatility, accomplishments, all these things.
00:26:29
And if you're just gonna compare eras, that level of competition and skill that it takes to win in this area in comparison to the past isn't even close because it's just called evolution of man.
00:26:39
Evolution of technology, evolution of sport.
00:26:42
It's just how it is.
00:26:43
But like people don't want to say that you want to compare apples for oranges, you know? But it's not so sorry for my rant.
00:26:50
But e you can't You got me going, Matt.
00:26:57
You got me going. Here's the thing.
00:26:59
Here's the thing.
00:27:00
That Look, look, Perry, I totally get that argument.
00:27:02
I really dio.
00:27:04
But at the end of the day, in terms of legacy, they're not gonna look about They're not gonna look at how many times you've got there.
00:27:11
They're gonna look at how many times you hung up a rafter? Look, look, it would be different.
00:27:15
Peri Peri.
00:27:17
It would be different, Perry.
00:27:19
It would be best finish, you skip. Let me finish.
00:27:23
It would be so different if this sixth or fifth and six rings or her six ring was something where he was a complementary piece like he was a part of, like the team that will willed his team there.
00:27:34
Same way that LeBron has with his team to win four championships.
00:27:37
Unfortunately, when you're talking about greatest of all time is, will his team two championships like that team? If you look back on the history of basketball, four out of those championship teams were the best four teams of all time.
00:27:51
Besides that Golden State Warriors team that one year, four best teams of all time, not even a question record wise, skill wise.
00:27:57
When it comes to that that era, when you're comparing it, it's not even a question.
00:28:00
Give me one team that LeBron has been on that would even compare to any of the teams that have been on the Bulls.
00:28:06
One team that would even be a top 10 team of all time that LeBron has been on in his entire career because there's not not the super team because he's will didn't get a better team.
00:28:16
Now we're gonna, like, change it.
00:28:17
No, it's not.
00:28:19
That broad has been blessed the way the cookie crumbles pair.
00:28:22
You could be drafted to the worst team and your career.
00:28:25
Is she? It doesn't matter where he is.
00:28:27
10 finals appearances? Yes, A or championship wins greatest of all time.
00:28:33
But losing in the first round is but losing in the first rounds. Acceptable.
00:28:37
That's okay, which he did twice.
00:28:40
You have to go up against a bad boy.
00:28:42
Pistons like bad boy ****es.
00:28:44
Oh God.
00:28:46
LeBron came back 13 against the best team of all time.
00:28:49
That Warriors team like that's it.
00:28:52
Like it's It's like I understand what you're saying, but it's just like go.
00:28:56
But individually.
00:28:57
Statistically, it's not even a question.
00:28:59
Actually, it's not even a question you understand player in their era, where you're absolutely right, and that's why the MJ is the second best player of all time.
00:29:07
Like it's not saying he's bad.
00:29:08
People are saying it's just the fact that e only carry so much e yes, but Michael Jordan was one of the most dominant players in that era.
00:29:18
LeBron is also one of the most dominant players in in the era.
00:29:21
LeBron puts a million dollars.
00:29:23
Thankfully, now that medicine is the way it is to keep his body his full.
00:29:28
A gambling addiction wanted Thio mourn the loss of a family member for way too long, which we all experience in life and then decided to play another sport if someone said that in the group yesterday, Corey said in particular, if if LeBron is well stepped away from the game for any amount of time, let alone years, multiple times, his legacy wouldn't be a legacy, he'd be a fraud.
00:29:50
He would be this.
00:29:51
He'd be that.
00:29:52
But it's it's not like that, knowing because he didn't have social media, MJ didn't have any of that stuff.
00:29:56
He could do whatever the **** he wanted and nobody cared.
00:29:58
But now there's a spotlight is what everything is scrutinized.
00:30:01
But it's just MJ was untouched because he was the Messiah.
00:30:04
But in reality, every decision, How is his legacy? Not tart like How is it the fact that he quit on his team And how is the fact that he didn't continue a career that you're saying? I'm just saying like, Oh, and by the way, I completely agree.
00:30:16
Me and Alex ****ing killing this were a main basketball guy were going at it right now.
00:30:25
Yeah, and if and if we had to choose, I think Perry would be Mr Shannon Sharpe and Alex would be escape.
00:30:31
But well, I do have to agree with what Alex said.
00:30:34
Yes, LeBron LeBron did make it to 10 n b A Finals, but you only 14 times.
00:30:40
MJ made it six and went six.
00:30:42
But Mary, what? What team is even top 15 of all time for LeBron teams that have been to the championship, which, and you could tell me which which teams remember even top 15 the talent that have been to the championship with the fourth.
00:30:55
You want to start the Oh, you know LeBron he's been on that.
00:31:02
He's been to the championships.
00:31:03
Is there even like we're the only teams you could even give? That debate would be one of the like one or two of those years of the heat years.
00:31:09
And then this is what the Lakers, and it's not.
00:31:11
They're not top 15 teams from talking about.
00:31:13
You're not talking coaches.
00:31:14
You're looking at you.
00:31:16
You're looking at coaches.
00:31:18
I know he's not even you're looking at coaching.
00:31:20
You're looking at team and you're looking at general manager altogether.
00:31:23
The Bulls had the best true of all time.
00:31:25
You have the best coach of all time, who is a championship machine, because when he left, the cookie crumbles.
00:31:32
But I'm just saying, getting to its place 10 times and then loose.
00:31:35
But the way the cookie crumbles is just e.
00:31:39
LeBron crumbling all over the league, and it doesn't matter where he's at.
00:31:43
You feel me? Yeah, the same way, the same way.
00:31:48
The Jazz, the same way.
00:31:50
The Jazz and all these other teams that ran into the buzzsaw.
00:31:53
That was the Bulls.
00:31:54
Unfortunately for LeBron, he ran into the buzzsaw, which was the Warriors, especially after the Arcady like That's just it's the way the cookie crumbles at the finals.
00:32:04
He ran into those guys at the finals.
00:32:06
Yeah, there's no time that he's been bounced first round or like first round twice, which is just it's ignored s considering 68 s considering considering 68.
00:32:18
No, no. Consider him six for eight.
00:32:20
If you're gonna consider his two first round bounces, the same thing is getting to the finals and losing those.
00:32:25
If that's not worse than getting to the promised land and losing, consider MJ six for eight.
00:32:30
He's no longer the most efficient champion of all time like that.
00:32:33
That's how you wanna put it.
00:32:34
There was another one, I believe, two times, and he was sitting around, so he expert spend.
00:32:39
But it was none for LeBron for, ah, whole 17 years.
00:32:42
Not once has he lost in the first round.
00:32:44
And you think that goes into the goat debate, though that yes, that means doesn't matter what she team he's on.
00:32:50
He's willing those teams to the championship.
00:32:52
I can't believe I can't believe you're ignoring the fact that MJ ignore e has more championships.
00:33:00
They each with a dominant player, and they're also they're also a team statistics.
00:33:05
Half of that is a team statistic, the other half his individual based.
00:33:08
But I'm just saying statistically as well. Let's talk.
00:33:11
Let's talk about statistic.
00:33:12
It's not even a ****ing question.
00:33:13
LeBron beats him in every category it's not even close.
00:33:16
It's just It's just how, if you wanna talk about how the cookie crumbles, it crumbles both ways.
00:33:20
But at the end of the day, you gotta focus on not just the six for six.
00:33:23
But all the things that are ignored is lack of dedication to his team, walking away, cutting his career short, first round bounces, all of those things that get ignored.
00:33:30
But everything LeBron does get scrutinized.
00:33:32
It's just different eras, because nowadays everything is on a spotlight.
00:33:35
But in flats, LeBron did half the **** that MJ did.
00:33:38
People would even give him that conversation because they would tarnish him as this **** person as this person that didn't take the sport seriously.
00:33:44
But it's a different areas.
00:33:45
So LeBron's got to be the perfect angel and do everything off the court for even people to even give him a debate that he's one of the he deserves that respect.
00:33:53
Absolutely, which what he said afterwards, the fact that, like at least I know that you guys are giving him respect.
00:33:58
I'm not No, I'm not e literally just one of the grades out of my mouth.
00:34:03
I just said I know you all give him the respect.
00:34:05
I literally just said that as you cut me off.
00:34:08
But other people don't.
00:34:09
There's other people that still won't even put him in like a top three or top five.
00:34:13
And at that point, it's like, Don't even talk basketball with us because you can't even look at that for what it is.
00:34:19
And that's ridiculous.
00:34:20
Because if you hate LeBron, you hate MJ.
00:34:22
You hate Kobe.
00:34:23
You hate any of these guys.
00:34:24
You need to look at their careers.
00:34:26
Dissect him like like he's saying Alex, he's not saying LeBron.
00:34:29
So I'm not saying I'm James bad.
00:34:30
MJ's the second greatest bass player of all time.
00:34:32
He's saying LeBron's the second greatest.
00:34:33
That's insane to even have two guys be the top of their sport, so they're both absolutely transcendent.
00:34:39
But there's never been a more disrespected athlete in the world than LeBron James in the history of sports, and it's going to continue and he'll get his flowers once it's done, and then there won't be a debate.
00:34:48
But I've really been on this ****.
00:34:51
Caleb, do you have? Do you have anything else to add to do this? E fantastic.
00:35:00
I love I love the e love.
00:35:03
I love the conversation.
00:35:05
It was definitely skipped First.
00:35:07
Shannon Sharpe. Right there.
00:35:09
Uh, let's move on to the devastating Dak Prescott injury.
00:35:13
We actually have a diehard Cowboys fan in this dream.
00:35:17
It is the boss man, Mr.
00:35:19
Perry asked him.
00:35:20
So I will ask the cowboy fan this question.
00:35:25
What? What happens now? I'll start off by saying this.
00:35:28
I'll start off with the Cowboys for the rest of the season.
00:35:32
Do you have confidence that Andy Dalton can still leave this Cowboys team to a potential division division championship with roster that they have? I know you asked that.
00:35:43
First, I'm going to just touch on Dak Prescott first, and then I'll talk about that directly.
00:35:47
After I You know, I'm one of the biggest Cowboys fans in the world.
00:35:50
I'm possibly even a bigger dak Prescott fan.
00:35:52
I just think the guys I treat him the same way I treated Tony Romo when he was around, and it's just one of those guys that you just wish you could get that extra help with that extra coaching.
00:36:00
But it's just putting the team on their back, just amazing person like and with that press, kind of particular, especially one of the faces of mental health and just a great guy like he's never done anything negative in the spotlight like he's always giving back.
00:36:12
You hate to see this kind of injuries happen, you know, it's it's heartbreaking.
00:36:16
You see him get off the field crying, and you have to be a Cowboys fan to just ****ing feel for a guy like that.
00:36:21
Like I know all of us cover sports here.
00:36:23
All of us, like, hopefully played sports at some point and got to feel that level of competitiveness.
00:36:27
And you just that sucks so bad, man to see a guy go down, especially on a contract year and having he broke the passing record for the first four games for yardage, like he's having statistically one of the better years of all time.
00:36:40
Obviously, the team was just absolute **** on the other side of the ball.
00:36:43
But I mean, he's balling the guys going out there, and he's having a good time.
00:36:46
And he's balling and, you know, have him go down like that.
00:36:48
****ing sucks.
00:36:49
So, you know, shout out to Dag.
00:36:50
I hope for a speedy recovery.
00:36:52
Put out a really, really good, encouraging video today.
00:36:55
Looks like he's on the right track.
00:36:57
I read 3 to 4 months for a timeline.
00:37:00
I wouldn't be surprised to be challenged.
00:37:02
2 to 3.
00:37:03
That's what I read in certain places.
00:37:05
He really wants to rehab extremely quickly, so, you know, shout out to dock.
00:37:09
But like you said, no, I'll answer your question for Andy Dalton and the Cowboys.
00:37:13
If there is a division that a team with one of the worst defense is of all the time that I've ever watched and a backup quarterback can make the playoffs, it's the N F.
00:37:23
C s.
00:37:24
So, you know, with the Eagles and the Redskins and the Giants also all equally as ****ty as the Cowboys this year, And the Cowboys by far have the most talented roster in that division, which is even sadder that they're in the spot that they were even before Dak Prescott went down the record that they had with Jack, you know, and this terrible defense, it's just absolutely embarrassing, and they're in first place, you know what I mean? Like that right now, It Z That's how that that you know what Alex said. That's how the cookie crumbles.
00:37:55
And it's It's a ****ty cookie.
00:37:57
It's like this really dry cookie that's been sitting on the counter top out of its packaging for like, three weeks, and you put in your hand and it crumbles like that.
00:38:04
That's how bad it's crumbling for the Cowboys.
00:38:05
But you know, they can keep it together.
00:38:07
Andy Dalton.
00:38:08
Why do you sign Andy Dalton in the off season? It was a chess move to get Dak Prescott to sign that franchise tag and not hold out of camp because there was rumors that he was gonna hold out.
00:38:18
You go out and sign of extremely capable backup, a guy that could definitely start and had started in this league for a while.
00:38:25
So what does that Prescott do? He signs the franchise tag.
00:38:27
Jerry, get some more time.
00:38:29
Thio evaluate his options and Dak Prescott, two cowboys.
00:38:32
So it was a great move.
00:38:33
And why else do you do it? Because when Romo went down, you know, multiple times our backup quarterbacks were you know, Jon Kitna, who was so old at that point and then you know, Orton, you know, and it's It was just embarrassing how some of these talented teams, the second our quarterback would go down.
00:38:50
You make the playoffs or get right close to it.
00:38:53
And then this backup just would just be giving games away.
00:38:56
So with Andy Dome, he's got a career winning record.
00:38:59
He's a multi time Pro Bowler.
00:39:01
He's an established NFL quarterback.
00:39:04
You know, if you're comparing backups around the league, the only guy that could even I think challenge for a starting job at the same point as Andy Dalton right now would probably be what? Mitchell Travis Key with Nick Foles.
00:39:16
Like what other backup quarterback in the league? Skill wise and record wise.
00:39:21
And you know where they're at in their career would be ready to step in the way that Andy Dalton is ready to step in, you know, And that's not even as a Cowboys fan.
00:39:29
And he just looked at the career that Dalton's had. He has.
00:39:32
He's only not been a starter for what, half a year like he was really the last half of the year last year when they ended up putting in Jeff Driskel and he kind of rode out in the sunset.
00:39:43
So it's not even like he's that far out of a starting position.
00:39:46
So I mean, the Cowboys in a good spot.
00:39:48
If Zeke Elliot doesn't step up things, team is not gonna get identity.
00:39:52
You gotta be able to run the ball and any Dalton can stretch the field.
00:39:56
You know that defense is going to give up 30 to 45 points a game, so you're gonna have to put up a lot of points.
00:40:01
But it's ****ing embarrassing, you know, with that defense.
00:40:04
And you know, the old line is banged up, and it's not the same old line it used to be.
00:40:09
So you know, it's not like the Cowboys are anything to write home about necessarily right now.
00:40:13
But they have some serious star power at certain positions and a brand new coaching staff, which is not working right now.
00:40:20
So you gotta stay optimistic.
00:40:23
You know, Jason Garrett was the epitome of mediocre, so you gotta give another guy a shot with a brand new coaching staff and Dak Prescott going down does not make that easier, so we'll see what Andy Dalton could do.
00:40:33
But if I was in any other division.
00:40:36
As a Cowboys fan, I would be feeling like this is time to rebuild and look towards the draft.
00:40:41
But sadly enough, we are very much in the playoff hunt and will be the whole year because of how ****ty the division is.
00:40:48
So, yeah, they definitely have a chance and probably the highest chance.
00:40:51
Which is that Yeah, definitely made some great points there.
00:40:55
I wanna then shoot out the same question toe Michael's.
00:40:58
Caleb, What do your thoughts on the on the deck? Prescott Prescott injuries like How? Like if you're Dak Prescott and the whole back story was Prescott.
00:41:10
Jerry Jones offered him a contract.
00:41:11
He offered him remember a five year, $175 million deal.
00:41:16
But he turned that down because he wanted more.
00:41:19
Now that he is hurt And what what? What do you do now? If you're Dak Prescott, do you come back and simply say, say, you know, hey, I still wanna be off of that money Or do you maybe take Jerry Jones? Is next franchise tag offer, which would be $37 million and then just simply run it back again? Went, went healthy.
00:41:44
Uh, this time, I think he's going to secure the bag, start off with He's got to secure the back.
00:41:50
Can't afford another one of these injuries again.
00:41:54
Because then that's when teams they're really gonna use their leverage toe cut him short with the money.
00:41:59
So I think he's going to really secure the bag long term with the contract in years.
00:42:05
Um, I feel bad for that.
00:42:08
He was honestly to me.
00:42:09
I think he was having NDP type numbers.
00:42:12
He was having an M v p candidate type year.
00:42:15
Um, what happened? I'm not I'm not too concerned.
00:42:20
I think he'll come back.
00:42:22
Be fine.
00:42:23
Let him sit this year, maybe you guys could tank for Trevor and let him go.
00:42:27
You feel me? But, um, I think that really I think they already out of that race, Really.
00:42:33
I mean, it's sad to say, but with the two wins that they have, I really think they're already out of the Trevor race.
00:42:37
There's gonna be one win teams there's going to be, and he's gonna be the consensus number one pick for sure.
00:42:43
E Yeah, e I mean, they I mean, they need that I was gonna say they need some ****ing defense, man. They need a safety.
00:42:52
They need an alignment again, like they need defensive line help, especially a defensive tackle cornerback like there's a lot of positions that I think prioritize over Cube because I really think with deck, you know, this is I mean, I hate to say it's a business, obviously, So Jerry Jones.
00:43:10
It helps him and then regards to negotiations.
00:43:13
But you know, he did release Dax said.
00:43:16
I'm a cowboy for life, like a month or two ago.
00:43:18
And then literally this week, Jerry Jones said, Quote.
00:43:21
He's special.
00:43:22
He's our future.
00:43:23
So it's, It's I don't know how you can get more reassurance than that from your owner when he says he's the future.
00:43:30
So with that being said, is he Is he the future of this year? I'm just saying, Is he gonna Is he in a position to even negotiate a long term contract this year after an injury? I hate as the biggest Jack fan ever.
00:43:41
I want the guy to get paid more than anything.
00:43:44
I just truly don't, um, see it happening at the level that he would find.
00:43:49
I'd rather his expectations have to change in regards to the price while still having the years of security.
00:43:55
Or he's gonna have to run this back the exact same way.
00:43:59
Sign the franchise tag again, which is gonna be really, really good for annual money but like you said, won't have the security and he'd be taking a chance on himself again.
00:44:09
But, you know, I really don't think that, you know he's in the best spot for negotiations for a long term contract.
00:44:16
This even though the Jerry Jones is a very loyal man on his big on him. So I wouldn't be surprised.
00:44:21
But it's rather Dax.
00:44:23
Gotta bring that price down a little bit and realize his position of negotiations.
00:44:27
Or it's gonna have to sign that tag and take another chance on himself.
00:44:30
You know what I mean? I mean, if they're not giving them a good security blanket within years for that ****, that's what I'm saying.
00:44:39
But that **** I'm getting the **** out of Dallas.
00:44:42
E mean, somebody's in a pan, somebody on him and it's like, Okay, I bring my prices down.
00:44:47
If you bring the price down thing, let me get 5 to 6 years, maybe even seven.
00:44:51
You for me, not seven.
00:44:52
That's a little bit much, much, but like like 5 to 6 years e.
00:44:57
I mean, I would love I would love him there.
00:44:58
I mean, the thing is to you, look at the injury.
00:45:00
It's It's not like a major concern for him moving forward.
00:45:04
It's not like a tourney Keeley's or something that is notorious for sapping you.
00:45:10
It's true.
00:45:11
I mean, that's any injury.
00:45:12
Of course, if you don't rehab correctly, if the surgery doesn't go quickly, just hinders you.
00:45:15
You just never have the same confidence.
00:45:17
Like obviously, totally, absolutely.
00:45:19
But you know, at least from what I'm reading, it seems like it's pretty routine.
00:45:22
And the surgery went extremely well, and obviously with the kind of work ethic he is, I think the rehab is gonna go probably pretty well and probably expedited.
00:45:30
He'll probably go even harder than you're supposed to go for the rehab just to try and push that time line up.
00:45:35
So I mean re injury.
00:45:37
I mean, you always gotta look at that, but it's not like one of these injuries that's like can linger forever.
00:45:42
You know, it seems like It's like you get it repaired.
00:45:45
And it seems like you're back too.
00:45:46
I'm pretty sure.
00:45:47
Alex, you told me you had something similar.
00:45:50
Correct.
00:45:52
My my, aren't My hand was over here at a compound fracture.
00:45:56
Bone sticking out.
00:45:57
Same same level.
00:45:58
It's just the Onley worry you have.
00:46:01
Is this getting surgery within eight hours, which, for the most part, you should be fine After that, it's the mental gap of getting hit the first time, but other But other than that deck's gonna have the best doctors is gonna be well taken care of.
00:46:13
I think he'll be back back in Dallas and will earn that contract that that has been a hot debate in all of our group jets.
00:46:21
Absolutely.
00:46:22
It's between between the goat debate and the dak Prescott. It.
00:46:26
Chris, What's up, buddy? What's up, buddy? Yeah, no Red rifle time.
00:46:30
And we we just talked about this before you jumped in.
00:46:32
I mean, sad enough.
00:46:33
Absolutely.
00:46:34
He's their playoff bound.
00:46:35
I mean, they have the worst division in the history of ****ing football.
00:46:38
It feels like right now Absolutely, absolutely.
00:46:42
I Absolutely.
00:46:43
It's That's a good one.
00:46:44
Yeah, they need thio.
00:46:46
Um, find identity with running game and get six confidence up for future because I mean Andy Dalton.
00:46:51
He's in his mid thirties, you know, It's not like he's the future by any means, but he could He could still sling it.
00:46:58
You know, you gotta find an identity.
00:46:59
You gotta You gotta give him the chance to sling it.
00:47:01
They don't have a great offensive line.
00:47:03
You're gonna have to open up that play action with Zeke and Z.
00:47:07
Cannot be fumbling the ball, which was a problem earlier in the year.
00:47:10
And he's openly admitted that he's a big reason why you know, the records.
00:47:14
Not as great as it looks.
00:47:15
Because when it counts, you know he's fumbling.
00:47:17
And then the defense given up a touchdown, huh? Is he starting safety? E feel like he he probably even be more athletic than are starting safety.
00:47:27
Seriously, if you put sick at both sides of the ball, I would probably feel better just knowing that you have a beast out there.
00:47:31
But, you know, I don't know.
00:47:33
Even I don't think that our defense has any dog in them.
00:47:36
And late band rushes, you know, out who is the heart of that defense.
00:47:40
And Jaylin Smith doesn't look like a leader right now.
00:47:42
And DeMarcus Lawrence finally had a strip sack last game, but he's been dead for 13 14 games in a row.
00:47:49
E I mean, Alden Alden Smith is the primary pass rush and one of the league leaders in sacks and Homeboy hasn't played football in ****ing five years.
00:48:00
He just strapped back up and was like, Yeah, wait, Wilhelmina, my wearing I'm Gucci like, Let's go like I got like, a lot of C four in my system right now.
00:48:07
I got some crazy on a pre workout.
00:48:09
Let's get it and he just He's back, you know? But you got a guy who's conditioning signs of major contract with the team in the prime of your career, and you get a half a sack in 14 games.
00:48:18
DeMarcus Lawrence, like what the ****, dude like you serious? And I was so last last game.
00:48:23
At least I finally saw it.
00:48:24
I was like, Oh, my God, a strip sack If I was gonna start writing letters to his house if he if he didn't performance.
00:48:30
So I was gonna just start begging and a very nice fashion.
00:48:32
And then they were gonna continually, progressively get more and more angry and aggressive, as as the weeks went on where he didn't perform.
00:48:38
But, you know, cowboys don't have a lot to write home about, but they are blessed to be with the s*** of the league.
00:48:45
Mhm.
00:48:46
Yeah, like in the words of Stephen A.
00:48:48
Smith, the NFC East is filled with bona fide scrubs.
00:48:52
They can't play no disrespect to him.
00:48:55
Can't play eso on.
00:48:59
I'm gonna my take of it.
00:49:02
I think the deck Prescott injury is it is truly devastating.
00:49:05
I mean, you look at he he banked on himself on getting more money and it back fired.
00:49:12
You know, whether whether whether that is for, uh whether that's for, like, his agent, whether his agent was greedy or whether it was just simply deck wanted to bake on it himself, You know that.
00:49:25
That's always the risk of banking on yourself in signing a franchise tech because something like this could happen.
00:49:32
And, you know, I kind of feel like Jerry Jones is is almost obligated to pay deck, because if he doesn't, he's gonna be portrayed as a villain.
00:49:42
You know, I think the smart choice for Jerry Jones would be to give him back the franchise tag because, in my opinion, that doesn't have any leverage.
00:49:49
If we're being off, he's got no leverage like, absolutely.
00:49:52
The one level she has is like I made the playoffs two times and four years, one year playoff game.
00:49:59
Uh, he's got loyal.
00:50:01
He's got loyalty to work with is pretty much all you got at this point because, yeah, you're on a on a contract here.
00:50:07
You gotta look at the statistics and look at the production and you only have four games.
00:50:11
So now I do think that does day, but I think that has to pony up in except the franchise, because what we're gonna room does.
00:50:20
Does he have he? He has no leverage.
00:50:22
What? What's Jerry Jones is gonna look at, Dex? Contract on? Somebody wants it.
00:50:25
He's basically gonna laugh at him.
00:50:26
He's gonna be like like, you really think I'm gonna pay you almost $40 million when you just completely shattered your ankle in half? Not you're getting franchise tech again.
00:50:36
And if you prove yourself worthy, I will give you I will give you your contract because Jerry is a man of his word.
00:50:44
He will pay guys if they play good.
00:50:46
If they play great at the time, Jerry Jones will pay the money.
00:50:50
It's not like where, where you know they play great and he lets him walk.
00:50:53
No, you will pay him.
00:50:54
He's just he's always.
00:50:56
He's always been notorious for taking care of his people, always, even if you, even if you would prefer a different move, whatever it may have been like, he's notorious for locking up his guys.
00:51:04
So we'll see.
00:51:06
I mean, like, I think we mentioned earlier.
00:51:07
If he is in a position to negotiate security and he views security in regards to years more than annual salary, he's gonna have to dip that expectation down.
00:51:17
And unfortunately, that's just reality.
00:51:20
But if not like you said, you know you're gonna be getting, what, 30 $40 million on that franchise tag, and that's plenty for the year.
00:51:27
And you just got to feel confident that your back and better than ever, you know, Yeah, definitely some some great points made throughout.
00:51:35
Let's let's move on to to the Atlanta Falcons.
00:51:40
They finally did something right even though their own five.
00:51:44
They finally got rid of Dan Quinn and they finally got rid of their GM.
00:51:49
May have been a couple of years too late, But, you know, sometimes you live and learn from your mistakes and they did the right thing.
00:51:58
They fired Dan Quinn, which pretty much now I think everybody looks at Dan Quinn has basically a fraud because look at the only highlight that he was was all he was a defensive coordinator for the Legion of Boom in the Seattle Seahawks went.
00:52:11
They were just simply blessed with Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor all in their primes.
00:52:15
I mean, that was such a killer defense to go up against.
00:52:19
And really, the Falcons just made poor decisions.
00:52:21
In my opinion, after, I would have done my very best to keep Kyle Shanahan because way have they have to feel so bad, have they? Can you imagine? Could you imagine that the Falcons have Kyle Shanahan right now? They would do.
00:52:36
They would still be in playoff contention.
00:52:38
Now, the only the only team the only team that should feel worse is the Redskins.
00:52:42
When they technically had Sean McVeigh and Shanahan both on their rosters and decided with Gruden instead.
00:52:49
And I think they also have Matt LaFleur.
00:52:51
Who is? They didn't 73 they did that for three guys.
00:52:57
You let slip three guys, you let slip away.
00:53:01
Yeah, and that's the thing.
00:53:02
And you know what? Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way.
00:53:05
Sometimes you gotta learn what? When you suck real bad.
00:53:08
And you're just like, Wow, I I just I had I had Kyle Shanahan in my lab and I decided not to pay him and let him go to San Fran.
00:53:19
And he has had success in San Francisco.
00:53:21
Went to his who will last year.
00:53:22
And now we're basically stuck in the gutter.
00:53:25
But you know, you live and learn, and I just want to direct this question to you.
00:53:29
Caleb, where do the Falcons go go from here? Obviously, they're gonna finish out their season with their intern coach.
00:53:35
But in the off season, what head coach do you believe the Atlanta Falcons should go after? Should they go more of a college route guy? Or should they go with some offensive coordinators around this leak? That's a good question.
00:53:47
I think the front office has to make.
00:53:48
It has to make a decision on that based on where they fall after this year.
00:53:53
If they make the playoffs with Matt Ryan, show some signs of life.
00:53:57
I think they run it back, get a couple pieces that could help them win now, because on the offensive side, they have undeniable offense.
00:54:04
That's putting up numbers.
00:54:05
The guards, They tried to get a better final offense and overall, better defense.
00:54:10
But they can win now for two.
00:54:14
Uh, I think, yeah, I think the front office has to basically judge from there.
00:54:19
If they ****ing suck, then they should go get a guy in college and Lego.
00:54:24
Let Matt Ryan walk, keep that same offense and maybe try to get Trevor.
00:54:29
Um, so I think it is really based upon how they finish off this season, whether they get a guy that's established in the NFL or a college guy.
00:54:39
That's what I think.
00:54:41
I'm I'm I'm here to see what everybody else.
00:54:46
Yeah, and then I'll go.
00:54:48
I'll go with the special guys.
00:54:49
I'll go with Alex first.
00:54:51
What do you think the Falcons should do from here? That's a tough one because it just depends on the new regime if they think Matt Ryan has anything left in the tank.
00:55:03
But I think this Russia, the way it's set up yes, you have these offensive pieces.
00:55:07
Yes, Todd Gurley is having a bounce back year of sorts in terms of with all the, uh, all the doubt that people had on them.
00:55:16
But, you know, defensively, I mean, that team is a mess.
00:55:19
I mean, if you look at what, like, you know, Perry, not not in any negative way, but like if you look at the Cowboys, that offense is top tier with all the weapons they have.
00:55:27
But defensively like that's their Achilles heel.
00:55:30
It is so hard, Thio be a successful football team.
00:55:33
When you have a limited room, no margin for error.
00:55:37
So do I think they should rebuild.
00:55:40
That's kind of tough, especially with Calvin Ridley Kinda really coming into his own is this season, you know, Julio still there, But, you know, that's obviously an option there.
00:55:48
Russell Gauge had some flashes of brilliance early on.
00:55:51
I think you know, they might want to just try to build the team again.
00:55:56
Maybe just you know, see if Ridley's willing to be, ah, part of the rebuild or do something like that.
00:56:02
Because the way that this team is formatted, it's just you're just asking for trouble.
00:56:06
Absolutely.
00:56:07
No, I agree.
00:56:08
I mean, Matt Ryan's 35 years old, Aaron Rodgers for references 36 years old.
00:56:13
And it's It's not like these guys air necessarily in the twilight of their career.
00:56:18
You know, you have Brees and Brady, who are both 40 something right now and still playing.
00:56:22
Obviously, you're having the debate if they're really starting to decline now.
00:56:26
But they're still playing, and you could consider last year them still being at very, very, very high level in their forties.
00:56:34
So to say that a quarterback can extend their career.
00:56:36
Brett Farve.
00:56:37
You know a lot of these guys that are accomplished quarterbacks can go till 40.
00:56:42
It's not saying that he is one of those guys, necessarily because Father Time hits you differently, depending on who you are and how hard you go and how hard you trained and how well you take care of your body.
00:56:54
You know, it's really so many factors toe when it's just time to hang them up.
00:56:58
But I don't think Matt Ryan's there yet.
00:57:00
I still think Matt Ryan has it in the tank.
00:57:02
I still think he slings it around.
00:57:04
He is by far the best quarterback and Falcons history, statistically and no, Matt, uh, you know, Vic is probably the most exciting Falcons quarterback of all time, but he also didn't spend his entire career there.
00:57:17
Matt Ryan's been there for his entire career.
00:57:20
He got drafted by the franchise, so you know he is by far the longest tenured quarterback.
00:57:24
He's been to a Super Bowl.
00:57:25
He's won an M v P.
00:57:27
You know Matt Ryan and deserves the loyalty of the Falcons.
00:57:30
And, like Alex said, you have Julio Jones, who is so underutilized right now.
00:57:36
And for some reason, obviously, the hamstring injuries and stuff are are holding him Bacchus well.
00:57:41
But there's been a mis usage of Julio Jones for a couple of years now.
00:57:46
You know this is one of the premier talents in the league, and he's not getting sprinkled like DeAndre Hopkins is and and Michael Thomas is like, Do you see the kind of target share that these guys have the kind of attention that they're getting from their quarterbacks.
00:57:59
Julio Jones just hasn't been that guy.
00:58:02
And, you know, how long are you a decoy for? Before you're just the most dominant guy on the field and you have to feed the guy the ball.
00:58:08
But with that being said, like Alex mentioned to, Calvin really is the beneficiary of that.
00:58:12
He's blown up.
00:58:13
He is one of the one of, if not the most productive receiver in the league right now.
00:58:17
Really, you know, he's just going off and he's in his early twenties.
00:58:22
This is your guy.
00:58:23
For the rest of, you know, you got Todd Gurley, who's running well.
00:58:25
He ran for over 100 yards and a touchdown last game.
00:58:28
Theo lines.
00:58:29
Not bad.
00:58:30
They're creating holes.
00:58:31
It's not like Matt Ryan's running for his life.
00:58:33
They're not the best.
00:58:34
But, um, you know, he's got time.
00:58:36
You just need someone that's not fumbling these games away, making smart decisions and, ah, lot of the time, like Falcons were putting up enough points.
00:58:44
That's never really the issue for for them, it's not like they're not scoring enough toe win.
00:58:48
It's just their defense gives up a lot of points and they make bad decisions.
00:58:52
Just gotta pick up that that onside kick.
00:58:54
Yeah, right.
00:58:55
I mean, it's just bonehead stuff, too.
00:58:57
I mean, you have to think about Dan Quinn had a job for this long.
00:59:00
He had the 28 to 3 loss in the Super Bowl.
00:59:03
You fumble the bag to the Cowboys in a way that no team it was.
00:59:07
They were, like zero and 400 something all time in that position.
00:59:11
And the Cowboys air now that one, because of the Falcons and then the next week lose in another record breaking fashion in the fourth quarter, leading by 15 points.
00:59:21
How do you have a job after that week? Blows my mind.
00:59:24
But you know, at least they did it the week after.
00:59:26
Now they fired Queen.
00:59:28
It's not just Dan Queenie.
00:59:29
They fired the general manager as well.
00:59:31
No moves have been made to progress.
00:59:33
This team forward and they've had a lot of talent is very similar to the Cowboys.
00:59:36
You know, a very high powered offense, bone head coaching, bonehead defense most of the time, and you just only scratched the surface and you just have wasted talent wasted.
00:59:45
Guys like Romo wasted guys like Matt Ryan and you know it's it sucks to see.
00:59:50
But who knows who they bring in? That's a good question, I think.
00:59:53
Josh Lenard has made a really good point on the NFL and Wrapped show saying that Eric B.
00:59:59
Enemy, the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs, would be a very interesting higher for that high powered offense.
01:00:06
And obviously, for him to leave that dynasty of the Chiefs right now, it would have to be the right head coaching job, not just any head coaching job for be enemy, because when he was up for the job before they won the Super Bowl, he wasn't part of the reigning Super Bowl champions.
01:00:23
Now he just coached.
01:00:24
You know Pat Mahomes to the Super Bowl.
01:00:26
They win that.
01:00:27
And now this year they just get, you know, a player that will mention in a bit that just really took him over the top.
01:00:32
And I think you might.
01:00:33
You might as well already handle Lombardi Trophy over to the Kansas City Chiefs.
01:00:37
So I don't it would have to take the perfect job for Eric, the enemy to leave.
01:00:41
In my opinion, and I don't know if the Falcons are that job, but at the same time, you gotta take your opportunities when they arise.
01:00:48
So he's been slept on for a while.
01:00:50
I'd love to see Eric the enemy.
01:00:51
Get that job I love.
01:00:54
I love to see Eric.
01:00:55
Then we get the job as well. Crazy.
01:00:57
It definitely would be crazy to see Eric Bana me get the job as well.
01:01:02
And I feel like it's definitely suited suitable for him.
01:01:06
E o Josh.
01:01:18
They will.
01:01:19
They will see you in the office and they will see you without that trophy, man.
01:01:22
Chief Chief Beekeeper.
01:01:24
They have Seaman.
01:01:25
I had the Ravens as I had the Ravens.
01:01:27
Oh, Lincoln Riley.
01:01:28
That's a very interesting and I was also I was also gonna mention Lincoln Riley could be an interesting option as well.
01:01:33
His values going down right now without yeah, well, look, well, I know that Oh, you is not doing well right now, but when have we seen like, when the college teams are doing bad, we see them jump ship looking Pete Carroll.
01:01:47
USC was a powerhouse with Pete Carroll.
01:01:50
Then they had the big scandal at USC and basically Pete Carroll dipped out of their went to Seattle, and he's been the best coach for the Seattle Seahawks franchise history.
01:02:01
I think maybe if Eric the enemy says no to the job in Atlanta, I would simply say, Why not throw it out there for Lincoln Riley when we look at Lincoln, Riley basically did everything he could in Oklahoma.
01:02:12
He's led him to the cultural playoff, I believe, for three or four straight years, and we we look at this year, this could be a situation where he may look at Oh, you and just you know what? I don't think I could win a national championship here in Oh, you, why don't I just go to the NFL? I have a great offensive with Matt Ryan, Julio Jones when he's healthy.
01:02:32
Calvin Ridley.
01:02:33
I have a solid offense and, you know, I could just get a great defensive coordinator like maybe like like a weight.
01:02:39
Phillips kind of like what Sean McVeigh did in the ramps.
01:02:41
Get a good veteran defensive ***** that knows this stuff and kind of go from there.
01:02:45
And then Josh says he is held is one of great offensive minds they want Shanahan to two point.
01:02:51
Oh, I would simply say, Why not? I mean, it's worked for some things.
01:02:54
I mean, look at what the Green Bay Packers are about the floor.
01:02:56
I had no idea who the hell that dude waas.
01:02:59
And lo and behold, through two seasons, isn't a Dan Quinn considered a defensive minded coach? Yeah, it s Oh, my only question is this.
01:03:11
If that defense is so atrocious with a defensive minded coach, if you're going toe, if you're going to bring in an offensive minded coach, you better have the greatest defensive coordinator of all time.
01:03:23
If you plan on winning, I just simply think they're just needs to be a new face in Atlanta.
01:03:28
I think I think through all the meltdowns at Dan Quinn has had, I just think there has.
01:03:33
There has to be a new face and wise cheeses out here, preaching that is true.
01:03:38
I always pre preach the facts, and some people may not like it, but it's just what I dio.
01:03:45
I mean, no, no, I won't say I won't go on long grants like Perry did about M.
01:03:49
J, but I can't go on some Rancic.
01:03:51
I just wish your passion is me, as I am one day about something like I just I wish that passion on you one day, my friend.
01:03:59
No, that is so patchy.
01:04:01
Oh, no, no, no, but literally No, no.
01:04:06
I'm gonna tell you how passionate is like, I don't even joking.
01:04:08
This is a perfect time to bring this up.
01:04:10
We had him on a stream.
01:04:11
It was The question was about Dak Prescott.
01:04:13
And then he was talking about, like, the eighth play the Packers ran in 2014 Week five.
01:04:17
I was like, This guy is like, Oh, why she's Packer maniac, man.
01:04:22
I love it on.
01:04:24
And I mean, I still can't believe and let let's go and discuss this Levian Bell Designing to the Kansas City Chiefs, Perry made a bold claim and say, You should give Wrapped the Chiefs of Lombardy, my undefeated Green Bay Packers and Alex Valdez, Pittsburgh Steelers States otherwise so, I will not go that far yet.
01:04:47
I don't think you could ever They're the defending champion.
01:04:50
So you got They are.
01:04:52
They're champs.
01:04:53
They're They're the team that needs to be beat.
01:04:56
They got better.
01:04:58
They are the defending champs and they did get better.
01:05:00
But nothing is ever gift.
01:05:02
Wrapped it.
01:05:03
I mean, the Patriots went 18 and Oh, and they lost a big game and didn't complete the perfect season.
01:05:08
No team has ever had a perfect season since the 72 Dolphins is very hard to do, and nothing is ever guaranteed.
01:05:15
I mean, we we look at even though Yes, our favorite Lakers won the national champ National Championship.
01:05:20
The N B A champion this year.
01:05:21
It's not.
01:05:22
It's not guarantee that we're gonna win the championship.
01:05:24
You have tow work hard and earn it.
01:05:26
And Kansas City? Yes, they did win a championship.
01:05:29
They did add Leave Ian Bell.
01:05:31
And if he could revert back to Pittsburgh form Oh my God, this is gonna be scary.
01:05:36
But even even without Libyan Bell, they got better with Clyde, it was hell yeah, they did last year.
01:05:41
They did, But I will say I will say rest in peace toe fantasy owners traffic light energy layer.
01:05:46
That's that's gonna be a tough one, depending on how they utilize Levy on bell.
01:05:49
So if you're in fantasy, you see Le'veon Bell out for free agency and you have cloud energy there.
01:05:55
Get that duo 12 punch.
01:05:57
That would be a key toe.
01:06:01
Someone of success.
01:06:02
Uh, let's just simply talk about living on going to Kansas City.
01:06:06
I'll hand it off to you, Perry.
01:06:08
You Like I said before, you made the bold claim on you should just give Give the Chiefs back to back.
01:06:14
Let me hear you.
01:06:15
Why You believe they should be gift wrapped it back to back instead of having toe go up against teams like Seattle or Green Bay or Pittsburgh.
01:06:22
I mean, it's not that they're not gonna have to go up against teams like that because they had to go up against teams like that last year.
01:06:27
I mean, like like you mentioned, this is a leak with 32 teams, like, obviously, you're gonna have toe work for it.
01:06:32
But you're talking like they didn't just win it and have the recipe, and then go and take that team and going improve that team.
01:06:40
So this is how sports works when you're the Yeah, yeah, a lot.
01:06:45
If you're the defending champion, you're the team to be your the expected champion for the next year, barring someone else taking your crown and I am not a Chiefs fan at all.
01:06:54
Nor do I give a **** about the chief, So it's not like I am biased whatsoever.
01:06:58
I think Pat Mahomes is probably the greatest quarterback will ever watch, and it's way too early to say that.
01:07:02
But you know, just watching him and what he's done in his first three years is, uh, I can't even comprehend it with my mind.
01:07:09
But you have him who is the greatest talent in most unique talent that I've seen in a very, very long time on the football field and really a lot of sports in general, like Pat Mahomes is just He's doing things that you weren't sure quarterback can do, and it's really, really crazy.
01:07:25
And Andy Reid is one of the most established coaches in this league.
01:07:29
Obviously, we got so close, got so close, got so close until he finally got there and won it.
01:07:35
So I think the coaching is great.
01:07:36
Eric, the enemy is great.
01:07:38
I think they're receiving corps is so insane.
01:07:41
It's an Olympic track team, obviously, kind of Clyde Edward Teller is already a guy that can handle 20 to 25 carries a game, get you over a buck on the ground and be effective in the passing game, and then you go on ad.
01:07:53
Levian Bell, who even at if he's half of what he was in Pittsburgh, you just add, Who was the other guy behind him.
01:08:00
Like he got Darwin Thompson taking snaps sometimes, like you got DeAndre.
01:08:04
Y Yeah, you got DeAndre Washington, right? Isn't he still on the squad? They brought him back up after they Yeah, I think he's still there like you have no threat to that backfield after, you know, Williams opted out for co vid.
01:08:18
So now it's not just a option behind Clyde Ritter's Hilaire.
01:08:22
Like you mentioned Matt, it's potentially the best running back duo in the league besides Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt right now, because there's not a lot of teams that can consider both of their running backs, starting caliber running backs and the Chiefs.
01:08:39
The rich get richer, the defense got better, the defense is better, and Spagnola has a great way with this team Now.
01:08:46
They're no longer the the crap on that side, and when they won that championship, that defense was the reason why they almost didn't win that championship.
01:08:53
Now it's actually the opposite.
01:08:55
Sometimes this defense is actually sometimes carrying the load.
01:08:59
And at the very least, if not, because then you see what happened with the Raiders game.
01:09:03
Obviously, this defense is there.
01:09:04
Not a perfect defense whatsoever, but they can hold it down more than they could last year. Absolutely.
01:09:10
And you know, like I said that the defending champions, they already have the recipe.
01:09:14
You just got better your You have another year under the belt together as a unit.
01:09:19
I don't know how you give someone else the nod.
01:09:23
You know, I think there'll be people that challenge them.
01:09:26
That's That's sports.
01:09:27
Of course, the Heat challenge the Lakers this year.
01:09:29
You know, it's just how that rolls.
01:09:30
But at the in the end, it's just It'll be a fluke if they don't win the Super Bowl.
01:09:36
Yeah, it definitely it could be a fluke If they don't.
01:09:39
I wanna hear, hear the take for for Alex, Obviously die hard Steelers fan.
01:09:46
You watch *****l Bell grow into one of the best running backs and all the football at one point during its Korean Pittsburgh.
01:09:53
You obviously held out, signed a contract with the Jets, basically highway robbery with the New York Jets.
01:10:00
I mean, this man took $27 million and keep in mind you talk about getting money.
01:10:07
This is the key to success in the NFL, this man level.
01:10:10
Bell only played 17 games.
01:10:13
He got paid $27 million did not have a single game of over 100 yards rushing, and the biggest biggest run he ever had was 19 yards.
01:10:24
You talk about the mean, you talk about the mean.
01:10:28
Tell him to bring me my money that that man got his money that he wanted.
01:10:33
And now that now that he's in Kansas City, Alex, what does this mean for the Kansas City Chiefs? Are you more like Perry and say, gift? Wrap them a Lombardi? And if they don't win, it's a fluke.
01:10:45
Or are you? More of this helps Kansas City, but they still gotta.
01:10:50
They still got to compete against the undefeated Tennessee Titans.
01:10:52
They have Thio.
01:10:54
They have to play football games.
01:10:56
Matt, we understand that there has to be another team out there to play them.
01:10:59
We know that it's not gonna be then walking to the championship, but it's talent wise.
01:11:04
They're a team that even ****ing compares.
01:11:07
Yeah, you know, before the season, I wrote an article about how the Chiefs are going to be the gatekeepers of the A F C.
01:11:15
Kind of like the way the Patriots like.
01:11:17
Look, that doesn't mean that they're gonna go to the Super Bowl every year.
01:11:19
It just means they're gonna be perennial Super Bowl contenders every year, year and year out.
01:11:24
And, you know, like Perry talked about this defense has improved its not just, you know, relying on the offense to just outscored the other team.
01:11:32
You know, they're they're out like there e mean McColl hardman, who I think is a very great young, uh, receiving that offense.
01:11:38
I mean, that whole entire offense could probably run, outrun, outrun all of us combined like it's insane, I think.
01:11:46
Adding levian belt of this now, I think this is gonna be one of those situations, like almost like what happened with Randy Moss when he was on the Raiders and everybody was like, Oh, he's washed.
01:11:55
He's nothing.
01:11:56
You know? Levian went to the Jets and they didn't use them very well.
01:12:00
He had one target last week.
01:12:02
One of the biggest compliments that you know, Levian had to our offense when he was on Pittsburgh was he could run in the slot.
01:12:10
He could run routes out of the backfield.
01:12:12
So he adds another dimension toe.
01:12:15
A head coach who loves having those multidimensional running backs.
01:12:19
He loved Clyde Edwards lair for his ability, toe run and catch passed out of the backfield.
01:12:24
Now he has another running back who can also do that.
01:12:27
The rich get richer.
01:12:28
I mean, I'm not give wrapping that that that's horrible to them.
01:12:31
But like I said, they are the gatekeeper of the A F C.
01:12:34
Until they prove me that they're not.
01:12:37
But everything is there, like like to say like Like I said that that doesn't mean like, I don't think the Cowboys, the Packers, every other team in the league is just like up.
01:12:45
Send it in.
01:12:46
There's no point like it's just they're going to be perennial team for the next decade.
01:12:51
But yeah, I think Levian Bell is going to make this team that much better, and if anything, it will help Clyde Edwards Earlier in his development too.
01:12:59
You think I'll help it develop? Yeah.
01:13:03
Yeah.
01:13:04
I really think that I was alot will come out with a mix tape next week.
01:13:06
De Definitely good points there.
01:13:09
Let's close out livable with Caleb side of the things.
01:13:14
How do you believe Levian Bell will impact the Kansas City Chiefs? Caleb, do you believe he will make them? As we all know, the team to beat in the A F.
01:13:23
C um, you know, to go off what they said already, it all depends how they use them this week.
01:13:34
I think, obviously, is not gonna come right out the gate being mad, effective? We could expect that.
01:13:41
Um, on paper, they do have a talented team.
01:13:43
But, I mean, any given Sunday in the playoffs, somebody could stop him.
01:13:48
And I don't see lady on Bill being used as like a bell Kyle running back.
01:13:54
Or what do they call it? Bella horse.
01:13:55
Whatever the **** You know what? I'm trying t o Kyle running back.
01:13:59
I don't think he's gonna be that they have you, layer.
01:14:02
They like to throw the ball.
01:14:03
He's probably gonna be a ground and pound.
01:14:05
Give it to him at the goal line.
01:14:06
Try to stick some **** in 3rd and 1/4 and one type guy.
01:14:10
So I don't know if if if he's gonna be, like, mad, effective for them.
01:14:16
But he is going to be another decoy out in the fields that could help them, you know, advanced and And when a couple of games.
01:14:23
And he's gonna be used in certain situations for sure.
01:14:26
Um, but you know, Alex and Perry headed on itself, Brother, they're gonna be around for a very, very, very long time.
01:14:36
Yeah, my Holmes's on what, a 10 year contract? Yeah, 500 something million, by the way.
01:14:43
He bought ****ing baseball team with that ****.
01:14:46
So he's only, like, half a ****ing, and he just proposed to his girlfriend to, like, think he's got a got a Super Bowl ring.
01:14:53
Just put a ring on his girl like BP living right? Legend e I.
01:15:01
It's so early to say that they'll jump you for saying that, but like, I completely agree.
01:15:07
I'm watching this guy and I do not like I said, I do not have one bit of fandom for the Chiefs.
01:15:13
I don't care.
01:15:14
I don't have any bias and I'm watching him, like with stars in my eyes, like Wow, like, Did he just do that? He can't do that and like there's been, like, maybe like one or two times.
01:15:24
I'm like, You know, I've had a player that every time I watch I'm just like I don't know.
01:15:29
I don't even get this dude like how you know And he's one of those guys e It could be like I said, You said you said it.
01:15:36
It could be too early.
01:15:37
We owe as far as his talent like Dude is like the most talented.
01:15:46
Like he could throw the ball while running like, I mean, like, athleticism wise Lamar Jackson.
01:15:53
You could easily put him like he's like, easily the most athletic quarterback, but he cannot ****ing throw the ball like mom.
01:15:59
Oh, for sure, I'm not even throwing quarterbacks.
01:16:03
That air, specifically focusing on throwing, can throw like my homes.
01:16:07
Like it za absurd e will devastate Patrick Mahomes definitely does remind me of a little bit of vintage Aaron Rodgers like things that I see the things that I see out of Pat Mahomes.
01:16:18
It is exactly what Aaron Rodgers used to dio e identical.
01:16:28
Rogers is amazing talent.
01:16:32
Absolutely by e passes.
01:16:35
I can't say I can't say that they're similar guys.
01:16:39
I think they got similar talents.
01:16:42
They could both scramble and throw it anywhere on a dime.
01:16:45
And if you need a deep ball, that point Rogers could still swinging.
01:16:49
He may be e one better one of the better quarterbacks of all time.
01:16:53
For sure, I'm not here.
01:16:55
And here, I think, is what I gotta put down to.
01:16:57
Rogers knows so much more about the game than Mahomes has my home.
01:17:02
It's like it's like, Yeah, it's like a but does.
01:17:08
Rogers knows.
01:17:09
Does Rodgers know when it's fourth down, though He **** right he does.
01:17:13
That's right.
01:17:14
And they both have that State farm double check.
01:17:17
So you know they're both in that bag.
01:17:19
Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
01:17:21
And I E.
01:17:23
Rogers Air Great Rodgers.
01:17:25
Absolutely great.
01:17:26
But like I, I still can't like when I watch them.
01:17:28
It's still not like you're watching it being like, Have you seen an athlete like this before? Like bro like hold on, like come over here and watch this play like again.
01:17:36
I'm saying, Like in my years of watching sports like, I really don't think I've watched the talent that's blown my mind the way that, um, Pat Mahomes does, because with LeBron like, you know, you look at so many things and Wayne Gretzky and the greatest of all time and MJ all these things.
01:17:51
But like when you talk about uniqueness, you know you're looking at things that you haven't seen before.
01:17:57
Um, it's not doing it's not.
01:17:59
It's not doing things that people haven't done before and accomplishing things but having the robs, just ability to do things that I don't think another human's been able to do on a football field before.
01:18:09
And it's not Roger.
01:18:10
It's not Rodgers fault that he's he's made the most of every genetic that he has in his body, and he's pulled everything out.
01:18:16
But I think Pat Mahomes is just like, gifted from the gods.
01:18:20
You know, I would agree with you.
01:18:23
I would agree with you.
01:18:24
My only thing is from I Q standpoint.
01:18:26
Like LeBron you ****ing talented.
01:18:30
But if you ****ing watch Kobe, I mean the things he knows I Q is like, okay, he's ****ing toying with defense. He knows.
01:18:38
Yeah, no, for sure.
01:18:39
I e the whole time.
01:18:42
I think I q e could be used so many ways.
01:18:45
E could be used in so many ways because I feel like you know, you can have before the snap I Q.
01:18:51
You know, live I Q Like there's so many ways that, like you can use that football smarts and sports smarts like if you're better pre snap and pre, you know, and sometimes you're better post adjustment and stuff like I agree.
01:19:03
I feel like it's it's so many different ways to showcase your I. Q.
01:19:07
With that being said, you know LeBron like, you know, over Kobe.
01:19:11
You know, obviously, I grew up with Kobe.
01:19:13
It's just like, you know, LeBron leading the league in assists and changing his game, and then, you know, things like that.
01:19:18
It's the level of i Q and ways to adapt that LeBron has shown.
01:19:23
And the level of Ike, Um, there's really not a lot of people in this world that have that level.
01:19:28
And Kobe, I think, is the most the fiercest competitors to ever play a sport.
01:19:32
I think he has that mama mentality that no one ever has had before, truly, and it has expressed it and taught it to people.
01:19:39
But when you're just strictly talking, I Q.
01:19:41
It's really not even close to LeBron's to be 100% honest with the brother and and with Aaron Rodgers. Absolutely.
01:19:47
He's up there with Brees.
01:19:49
He's up there with, um, you know, Brady for I Q out of this world.
01:19:53
But, you know, I also said that comes with experience, for sure.
01:19:56
You know, I think Pat Mahomes when we're talking about him, year 10 he's gonna be this, you know, he's gonna be Yoda, you know, coming out of this contract, it is gonna be crazy.
01:20:05
Yeah, and it's not even like he exposes himself too much toe where it's like his career is at risk.
01:20:12
Like he's not getting hit too much more than any normal quarterback.
01:20:16
You know, the only one that you could even say that would probably be like Lamar Jackson right now, you know.
01:20:20
Yeah, But with this football ****, I think you know any hit could be ****ing up e right here, going back about Kobe that I really think he's a so far as I know he's definitely is one one of the greatest, for sure, Absolutely.
01:20:37
Because LeBron had to learn it from somewhere.
01:20:40
You know what I'm saying? Sure.
01:20:41
I mean, I think everyone learns, learns it from somewhere.
01:20:43
You know, Everyone had someone before then that they pass it to, and then it Z The whole goal is for the student Thio Surpass the teacher at some point, you know, that's the whole goal.
01:20:52
You want Thio, pass along your knowledge and your skill, and then have them take what you've done and build off it, you know? So I think it's again.
01:20:59
I think it's just a different way of breaking down the game nowadays.
01:21:02
Advances in technology.
01:21:03
You know things along those lines that help players see the game differently.
01:21:07
And, you know, I I agree with you, though.
01:21:08
Kobe's gotta have one of the highest accused of all time, and he's the fiercest competitors.
01:21:12
But seeing LeBron James lead the league in assists at Year 17 when he wasn't even notoriously a pastor before, like you know, he's always been a no e, I wouldn't say pass first guy always, but he's e e.
01:21:26
I think he can dissect I think I got a guy that doesn't get, like, a lot of credit.
01:21:31
You know, I got like Ben Simmons or something. You know, the I Q.
01:21:33
The same way.
01:21:34
We're getting off topic, of course, but yeah, I Q.
01:21:36
For for sports guys could be shown in so many ways as well.
01:21:39
And dissecting the game is just so interesting to see how they go about it.
01:21:42
But yeah, again, Pat Mahomes, I think.
01:21:44
I mean, what is it? You're three or four like We'll talk.
01:21:47
We'll talk when he's at year 10 and it's just gonna be, like, incomprehensible right now.
01:21:52
You know what I mean? Yeah, it definitely is.
01:21:55
Add let's close out.
01:21:56
Tonight's episode re capping Week five of the NFL.
01:22:01
So I'll go.
01:22:02
I'll go to you, Caleb.
01:22:04
What were your thoughts overall about week five? What kind of stood out to you the most, uh, some teams getting blown out that you wouldn't expect to get blown out Like what the **** happened in San Francisco? Uh, I did not expect that to happen in this Miami, but that seems guy game really blew me away.
01:22:26
Um, but it was a good performance by Miami.
01:22:29
I think ultimately that's what kind of Lord felt t think about going.
01:22:35
There would have been it would have been good to see him with the young pieces and then get out.
01:22:41
E would have been cool.
01:22:43
Yeah, that definitely would have been done to see another game.
01:22:45
That was impressive.
01:22:46
Justin Herbert, man the charges.
01:22:48
Although they lose that game, Herbert played phenomena.
01:22:53
The pagans drew Brees again when the smartest quarterback who leads his team back that game.
01:22:58
But Herbert Herbert played totally phenomenon that game.
01:23:02
So, uh, he certified himself.
01:23:05
Those were the two games and five that really stood out to me.
01:23:10
Mhm.
01:23:11
Definitely good points.
01:23:12
There I'll go.
01:23:13
I'll go to you, Perry.
01:23:14
What? We're kind of your thoughts on, Ah, Week five.
01:23:17
What kind of stood out stood out to you the most sure.
01:23:20
I mean, obviously, Dad, going down, you know, really sucked and seeing Andy Dalton come in when that game is good to see the Panthers.
01:23:27
I think they have so much to feel good about.
01:23:29
It's the team that I didn't have a lot of expectations for, and then we CMC going down and then playing the way they are.
01:23:33
Although they beat the Falcons, it's not like the greatest thing in the world.
01:23:36
They are three and two, you know.
01:23:37
And CMC has been out for a bit now, so it's definitely really great to see with the brand new coaching stuff.
01:23:42
That's exactly what you said, Matt.
01:23:43
With college coaches, you know, they got Matt Rule, defensive minded coach from Baylor.
01:23:47
They brought in Joe Brady, who just won that championship with Joe Burrow and L s u last year.
01:23:52
So you're bringing two of the younger, more progressive minded coaches that are willing to take risks and, um, learn on the job.
01:24:00
And it's just insane to see the kind of things that they're experimenting with.
01:24:04
And I'm a fan of the Panthers because of that coaching staff, because I'm excited for this team for the and you know, they have Owen and Josh be Panthers fans.
01:24:12
It's fun, you know, celebrate with them and show them love and stuff.
01:24:15
But it really it's one of those teams that, like I would I would tune into that side by side of Cowboys game.
01:24:20
Just, uh, really get a feel for how that games going I truly enjoy that team.
01:24:25
The Raiders.
01:24:26
You know, beating the Chiefs.
01:24:27
That was cool. Obviously.
01:24:28
Shout out to the Raiders.
01:24:29
Derek Carr is in that M V p discussion right now.
01:24:31
Obviously, it's it's really, like, weird to say that, but you saw the numbers that Corey sent in the group.
01:24:36
If you look up Derek cars numbers this year, they're very impressive, extremely impressive.
01:24:41
And he deserves that respect, which obviously doesn't get very often.
01:24:45
So, you know, the Raiders were looking good, shout out to them and lastly, you know, **** the bills.
01:24:50
You know, I'm a biased guy.
01:24:52
Um, but, you know, I'm glad to see them go down, and everyone, including Alex, was like, Oh, yeah, Tennessee.
01:24:58
You know, they've been out for two weeks, and, you know, I was looking at it more like you're acting like this is the first week of the season.
01:25:05
You know, they're three, and, oh, they've won three games together as a team, and, you know, a bye week is a week off.
01:25:10
Obviously, you're still at the practice facility doing certain things, but, you know, half the time you're watching tape and half the time you're doing meetings and stuff like that that you could do virtually and then it's really just keeping yourself in shape.
01:25:21
But it's not like you have to learn the playbook together.
01:25:23
It's not like you're stepping on the field for the first time.
01:25:26
Your 30 like you, you have played three times together as a team, and Mike Vrabel is a hell of a coach.
01:25:31
First off, so he goes out there, motivates his guys.
01:25:34
And not just that.
01:25:35
This makes Josh Allen look like the Josh Allen of old, you know, putting up acceptable numbers.
01:25:40
But still, you know, making those mistakes that you expect and putting them in a spot where they have to lean on that run game, which isn't very impressive.
01:25:49
You know, you got yelled in Who had the lead of that game with 52 yards teaching t y yelled in and, uh, TJ Yeldon.
01:25:56
Sorry.
01:25:57
Um, but I think Levian Bell would have been a really good signing for the Bills that would have taken them to that next level where you would have put them in contention, because then their defense is is stellar.
01:26:06
Obviously, their coaching would be great.
01:26:07
Josh Allen is having it was having an M. V. P year.
01:26:11
Definitely took himself out of that race so far.
01:26:13
Um, but yeah, if that running game solidify, this is a team I'd be looking at with a lot of big open eyes.
01:26:19
But with Singletary, Zach Moss and T.
01:26:22
J Yeldon along with Josh Allen with hopes and prayers, that's not a recipe toe.
01:26:27
Take that all the way, but I mean, the bill should be feeling good for the future, although **** him.
01:26:32
But the Titans should be feeling fabulous.
01:26:35
Absolutely fantastic.
01:26:37
Tannehill is awesome.
01:26:38
Derrick Henry is more awesome.
01:26:40
Rabel is a great coach.
01:26:42
Welcome back to the Lee A.
01:26:44
J.
01:26:45
Brown John who? Smith is even more awesome than everybody like the Titans are.
01:26:50
I love watching them because you don't expect them to be great.
01:26:53
But they win that hard nose, old school way.
01:26:57
You know, defense.
01:26:58
Run the ball, talk **** and it's you love to see it.
01:27:02
You love to see it.
01:27:03
Those were my highlights, but I think titans would be my team of the week.
01:27:07
Definitely love to see it, and I'll close with you.
01:27:10
Alex, What was your main take away for a week. Five.
01:27:14
Yeah.
01:27:15
I mean, for a week five.
01:27:16
I mean, Russell Wilson.
01:27:17
You know, we've all championed his M v P campaign.
01:27:20
I mean, he brought this team from the brink of getting their first loss.
01:27:24
Hey, just continues.
01:27:25
Thio Just I mean, they were in their in their what? Their 10 on that on that final drive, it didn't look good.
01:27:35
He's on unbuckling rail.
01:27:37
Yeah, No, just just his.
01:27:39
His ability to just make things happen.
01:27:41
He's a wizard out there.
01:27:42
That, to me just also puts me in a position because I in my predictions I had the Chiefs and Seahawks in the Super Bowl.
01:27:49
And it seems a little feasible now.
01:27:51
You know, obviously like to change from there, but I do like the way the Chiefs have been playing.
01:27:55
Uh, I like I like I like that matchup Chiefs and CFox. That would be cool.
01:28:00
Yeah, that would definitely be a fun matchup.
01:28:02
And then with the Titans, I do wanna highlight Tannehill.
01:28:05
He's not going to be someone that's gonna just throw all over the yard, but he just put the ball.
01:28:10
So his ball placement, how ah, 100% and you know what? Like that was a lot of storyline early on in preseason Is always Tannehill really gonna be this guy? Or was it just like that's, you know, late season fluke.
01:28:24
Kind of like what people attribute Nick Foles with and Kenyan Drake with.
01:28:28
So, uh, he's been phenomenal.
01:28:30
He's had one turnover in his four first four games.
01:28:33
I mean, he's definitely a huge component of making sure this team is in a place to be successful and then real quick.
01:28:39
Lastly, shout out to the Bears.
01:28:41
The weirdest four in one team ever.
01:28:43
They basically they had Tom Brady so dazed he thought it was fourth down and it was turnover on downs, which is now a new mean that we all see all over Twitter.
01:28:53
Um, but you and Tristan words getting thrown, they Tristen work.
01:28:58
They got embarrassed.
01:29:01
Where's the Norman are gonna be edited everywhere for the next couple.
01:29:03
Worse And Norman, in the say it was not the same week.
01:29:06
I cannot believe that That's the same week, technically, because Tuesday, Tuesday, felt felt like it wasn't the same week.
01:29:13
It's weird because in that last Tuesday count is like, um, do you think The first week five my bookie counted.
01:29:22
It is Week six, But in the office this week five.
01:29:27
Yeah, but yeah.
01:29:30
Sorry.
01:29:31
Sorry about that.
01:29:32
Then I'll close it out with with my wee wee five takes.
01:29:34
Overall, can you believe that in 2020 The browser.
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Four in one.
01:29:40
The Browns heir.
01:29:41
Ford one and the Patriots or two.
01:29:42
And to let that sink in for a moment.
01:29:46
Cleveland Browns, basically the New York Knicks of the NFL or Forward one and are competing in the A F C North with the Baltimore Ravens.
01:29:58
E feel so bad for that.
01:30:02
That division is so tough.
01:30:04
Like if they were in the NFC, you can you can wrap it right now.
01:30:09
You can give them that.
01:30:10
If they were in the Cowboys, Eagles and Redskins Giants division, you can give them the division title right this second.
01:30:17
And that is so sad that I don't even know if they make the playoffs.
01:30:21
Because the fact that the Steelers and the Ravens were so good, I I said it on the NFL in rapture.
01:30:26
I think you'll be one of those times.
01:30:27
Put that terrible towel away.
01:30:28
Oh, my God, I It's terrible.
01:30:31
I think it'll be one of the first times that you'll see three playoff teams out of the same division.
01:30:38
Um, you know, as both wild card spots and the division winner, I think that's very realistic.
01:30:44
Yeah, it definitely is realistic.
01:30:45
And I loved how my Green Bay Packers had a bye week and we moved up to number one in the power rankings.
01:30:51
I am definitely going to savor that moment.
01:30:54
We got a big game coming up against Tampa Bay.
01:30:56
Caleb Skinner.
01:30:57
I want all the smoke I want.
01:30:58
Unwrap these bands on Sunday.
01:31:00
I want a love the smack all smack top I'm all for and I'll even take it to you know, if it's gonna be very scary, because I think Tom Brady is gonna come back with a vengeance.
01:31:12
Yeah, I know.
01:31:15
We made our picks on the NFL in rap show.
01:31:17
Were you on the bucks to Alex? No, I was on the You're on the packers.
01:31:21
He was on packers. I was on bucks.
01:31:23
So there is that.
01:31:25
You can't You can't.
01:31:26
You can't. You can't go wrong with that either.
01:31:28
I wouldn't be surprised if e think Brady comes.
01:31:31
I think Brady comes back with a vengeance.
01:31:32
And and the Packers, The Packers are undefeated.
01:31:34
They should be feeling great.
01:31:36
I am definitely gonna feel great.
01:31:38
I really wish that was the Sunday night game.
01:31:41
I mean, obviously it's gonna be America's game of the week.
01:31:43
We'll probably get Troy Aikman and Joe Buck on on America's game of the week, which, in my opinion, a lot of people would much rather prefer Packers bucks on a Sunday night rather than the sorry ass Niners.
01:31:54
And you don't wanna watch the Super Bowl hangover.
01:31:57
40 Niners on Sunday night.
01:31:58
E watch a transition in the game to Nick Morgan and then transition the game. E.
01:32:05
I am so mad at Jim Jimmy Garoppolo.
01:32:07
I had Jimmy Garoppolo on my fantasy team, and he didn't even get me 0.
01:32:10
10 point.
01:32:11
He got me 0.
01:32:12
8 I am upset.
01:32:16
I was so upset with Garoppolo, I dropped Garoppolo and took the red rifle.
01:32:20
That's that's that's your fault for picking Garoppolo as your fans.
01:32:24
You were going up to get some e thought that was a good decision.
01:32:28
Yeah, Z I who knows what's gonna happen with the 49.
01:32:34
I mean, they're really injury riddled, but I just don't think Rapallo is the answer.
01:32:37
But, I mean, he's starting again this week, so we'll see what he does.
01:32:40
We'll see if they bounce, because if he doesn't bounce back, I don't know if he's gonna keep on to that job with our what? Our baby.
01:32:47
What are Molins stunk? Mullins? Uh, but But both are came in and wasn't all that great, either.
01:32:58
I mean, hey, right, right, Magic happen.
01:33:02
All right, Ryan.
01:33:03
Magic Magic man.
01:33:05
Yeah.
01:33:06
No, I love him.
01:33:07
I really don't think two is gonna play a snap this season unless it's like here's a little sneak.
01:33:11
Here's a sneak preview in a 55 to 4 blowout game in Week 16.
01:33:15
You know we'll show you like one drive, but that's what weight do The Dolphins play the cowboy I honestly like.
01:33:24
It's probably that's probably an El with its on the table.
01:33:27
That's probably an L.
01:33:28
Yeah, when he's on is different.
01:33:31
I love him and he's alive.
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He's obviously the guy is a genius, and he's just bawling.
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As many of you guys are looking at Right now, we're all decked out in our purple and gold as the Los Angeles Lakers are 2000 and 20 champions, the first time in 10 years the Lakers have poisoned up a banner.
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And this banner 17 is tied with the most titles in MBA history with the Boston Celtics.
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We will also discuss what that championship means for LeBron James legacy.
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Does it itch him closer to MJ? Or does MJ have, you know, just head and shoulders above everybody? Well, then talk about the Dak Prescott is devastating injury what it means for the Dallas Cowboys.
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How do they go from there? How much trust should Cowboy fans have an Andy Dalton, or is it panic time for them? And then we'll transition that in tow.
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The Dan Quinn firing from Atlanta and their GM as well.
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And also Lady on Bill, is a part of the Kansas City Chiefs big news that broke today.
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We're gonna discuss how much of a threat that makes to the Kansas City Chiefs, who are already a legit team, and just add add more weapons to that surefire offense.
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And then we'll close out the episode with recapping all the stuff that went down in in week five.
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So let's get things started with the first part of discussion.
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The Lakers are MBA champs.
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I'll start off with my co host, Caleb.
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But then to my guest.
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Caleb, how do you feel? Amazing. Amazing.
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We start off every decade.
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I wanna let that be known.
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Uh, 2000 Lakers 2010 Lakers 2020 Lakers again, way.
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Start off every decade and you know, it's normal **** to us.
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Way normalized this type of ****.
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So, you know, we got it done again.
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We're going inside.
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Do another three peat.
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If not, we'll see where we go.
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Um, e amazing.
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How's everybody else? E mean, I'm feeling great, you know? I know.
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We see Nick Doremus here saying this a Lakers special? Hell, yes.
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The Lakers special.
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You let us live right now. This is what's up.
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This is our time, uh, me and Alex, where I could speak for him as well.
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I know we're ecstatic to be here.
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Any show of the unwrapped sports family members is always a fun show for us.
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Me and him were just doing an NFL unwrapped episode on on Tuesday night with Josh Wineries and Christian McGowan, my co founder.
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You could check that out on the unwrapped sports Twitter again.
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But for me, how I'm feeling.
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I'm in Los Angeles, Burbank, to be exact.
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The energy is great.
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We are champions again. Caleb.
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Hit it right on the nose.
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We are topping off every decade.
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With the little championship, we will take it.
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We love it.
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Obviously, as we talked about pre show, we haven't been to the championship nor playoffs in quite a while.
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It's been seven years, and since Kobe left, it really seems like we haven't found that answer how to get back.
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And we finally found it. Magic Johnson.
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As much as he screwed a couple things up, he did set us up for success, paving the way by bringing LeBron and showing him the route to becoming a successful mogul on and off the court and with his media and production ventures.
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Obviously, it's perfect for LeBron and then with Rob Pelinka.
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He deserves all the respect in the world.
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He pulled out every move you could.
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He got a D which everyone thought he maybe overpaid.
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I told him, Yo, you add my apartment, Go add anything that I have Thio on top of the players that were given up to get Anthony Davis.
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You bring him to town that is going to lead with success and you see what happened.
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And it's not just that, you know, Kawhi Leonard was supposed to come to the Lakers.
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We went all in.
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Rob Pelinka was waiting.
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He led a lot of good free agents, sign other places, and we didn't get quite Leonard.
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So he happened to put together a string of about 10 signings Within 48 hours, it seemed like and it was boom, boom, boom.
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Anyone and everyone that was available and the right fit.
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We all questioned Quinn Cook and Jared Dudley and why would be adding these guys and this and that, But you're adding the right guys around a good core.
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Alex Caruso stepped up in a big way.
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I won't continue with the whole breakdown, obviously of how we got there and how we want it.
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But Rob Pelinka is an awesome, awesome guy at the helm.
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And I love him making moves for the Lakers, and he deserves a ton of respect.
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I am ecstatic.
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Elated, however you want a word, it I could not be happier, Alex.
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I'm assuming you feel the same way.
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Yeah, I know. For me.
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I mean, I I felt bad for my driver, Who was I was coming back from Vegas M kitty three.
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He has a Clippers fan.
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So, you know, I was being loud and obnoxious in that car on the way back, but, yeah, I know it's great.
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And, you know, it was also brought up in the chat.
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We are a very privileged fan base in terms of, you know, the teams that you know the Lakers have been able to put together.
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But regardless, you know, is this title town we expect to be in and out or somewhere involved with the playoffs with the contention for the for the finals trophy.
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But yeah, I know it was beautiful and then it was just the perfect ending to what we all hoped would happen after the passing of Kobe Bryant.
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So shout out to LeBron and everybody being down there, sacrificing all that time and energy toe to be in that bubble, which, you know, shout out to Adam Silver.
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You know, the bubble being ran better than our country right now.
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It is.
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It is just an incredible feeling.
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I definitely like and I just started seeing those Kobe tributes and tears to my eyes, you know, growing up like in California, Kobe and those championships, Man, it's just forever in my in my memory bank.
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And you know, now I get to see LeBron and now a d sharing the in the memory bank of being a Lakers fan.
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So, yeah, it was an amazing feeling.
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So amazing definitely was a definite was a great feeling for all of us fans.
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Almost fans, for sure.
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Let's let's talk about what this means for LeBron James. Legacy.
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So now LeBron James NBA finals record is now four and six, which is a lot better than three and seven.
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I'll just direct it off toe.
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Any one of you guys, I'll start off with our special guest Perry.
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What does this mean from LeBron's legacy? Does it itch him closer? So, Michael Jordan, or does it suppress MJ? If you're gonna ask me, I've already thought that he was personally the best player of all time before this, and you're comparing personal careers, personal accolades, personal statistics, team team accolades, championships.
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Obviously, you can't be spoken to as a great until you've been there and done that.
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But once you get past winning that once winning that twice now, it's just okay.
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Let's individualized each player and look at what they've been able to do in the in whatever respected sport that they're in.
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And are.
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Is it MJ's fault that he was blessed with some of the best teams of all time? Although hated Kraus, one of the better general managers of all time, as well as the best coach of all time? Is it his fault that he was blessed with that? Absolutely not.
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He Did he have to go move around the league piece things together during that era? No, he did not.
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That's not what the era was, and even if it was, he wasn't in a spot that he had to. They were blessed.
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Blessed would be an understatement.
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So not that it, like, you know, diminishes MJ and the kind of player that he is.
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But people highlight that.
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Six for six champion ships like it's on Lee him.
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You know, LeBron James.
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Do you see the car that he was dealt when he was drafted to the Cavaliers, the team that he took to the Finals with Zydrunas Ilgauskas and all of these guys on that team? They were nobody's.
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This had seriously.
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LeBron James going to eight straight MBA finals, nine out of 10 N b A Finals as a personal player and a smudges.
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I love Kobe.
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Unfortunately, he's not number two.
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I wouldn't even have him in the top five rest in peace to one of the greatest players that I've ever watched.
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But, um, he's more along the lines of like seven or eight.
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There's been some insane all time greats, so if you look at the list, he's right there with Tim Duncan right around seven or eight.
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But I would definitely say that it's no doubt MJ and LeBron up there one and two.
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You can't even if it is, that's more of a nostalgic reason or personal bias, but it's M.
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J and LeBron one and two.
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They've both separated themselves with a Grand Canyon sized gap and then 34567 through 10.
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So it's not even a question.
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They're doing things that you can't even comprehend.
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MJ, the most efficient champion of all time, 6461 of the most transcendent, one of the most influential athletes of all time.
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And he blew up his brand when there wasn't social media when there wasn't any of that stuff that helped along the way.
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So that shows how amazing he was in that era.
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It's also there wasn't as much talent in the league.
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There wasn't the same era of teaming up.
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It's different times, different eras, and it is tough to compare eras necessarily.
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But you're also comparing 18 years of basketball in comparison to MJ's career, which was much shorter.
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And for whatever reason, you know him walking away, going to different sport, whatever it may have been, it's It's a personal career, like the points, the assist, the river.
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It doesn't matter, like every statistic is going to lean towards the guy that's been in the League more Who's had, um, or established career? Um, you can think of who is the most skilled player in your head of all time, but I think we're comparing Who's the Who's had the greatest careers of all time, and that's when when you look at it like that, I think it's LeBron James as an individual player, and he's had to do what he's had to do.
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Go to Miami, come back to Cleveland, go to L.
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A.
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He's had to do these things because he's never had support.
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He's never had a great coach.
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Hey made Spoelstra the great coach that he is.
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Spoelstra.
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It was a good coach, but he wasn't an accomplished coach.
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He didn't have a lot of years of experience.
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And then you get to coach three of the best players currently in the MBA.
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So LeBron James is also just like M J, one of the leaders of their decade, one of the most transcendent players of all time, one of the most brand herbal players of all time.
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But you're comparing a guy who's played four or five years longer and personally didn't matter where he's been, what team he's been on.
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He was in eight straight NBA finals, nine out of 10 and now he's got four.
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So once he wins that fifth ring, it's not even going to be a debate anymore from an individual standpoint.
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So I'll let people still run with their MJ nostalgic takes at this point.
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Shout out, Nick, shout out, Mark, shout out Everyone there.
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I watched the last dance to It was awesome, but it doesn't change the fact that you're still watching the greatest athlete to ever play any sport of all time.
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And he is still playing adding accolades to that resume.
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So, uh, maybe it maybe a few years before he gets his flowers.
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But I've been saying that even before he got to the Lakers, I said, This is the greatest athlete of anyone's time.
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It's the greatest athlete of any sport and you can call that a hot take.
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But it's not.
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So there's my opinion.
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Call it, Call it sizzling.
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Call it correct.
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Whatever you want. Shadow MJ. Transcendent.
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Amazing.
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Um, he was just extremely lucky and extremely blessed.
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Um, it wasn't all lucky.
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And it wasn't all other people, but his situation couldn't be better.
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And if it wasn't from walking away, maybe would have won seven.
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You know, it feels if Jerry Krause wasn't such an *******, maybe they would have won seven or eight.
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So maybe that would have been not even a discussion then.
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But that's theoretical, isn't it? He walked away, you know.
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He cut his career short, so that's his fault.
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But LeBron didn't.
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So he has the most highlighted accomplished career of all time.
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So definitely good points there.
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I also wanna throw throw the same question out to my co host, Caleb Content.
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Do you? How do you believe this effects? LeBron's legacy? Do you basically have the same points like Perry said, or do you have any other other sides? Thio said.
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I actually oh, Gate, it's all around player.
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I do think he's the greatest all around player.
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Did you ever play the game? Um, but I think he's going to score.
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No, e, don't.
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I think you what What's what's your list? What's your list? You just you can't.
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I just don't think you could put him in front of like will to can't put in front of magic.
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You can't put him in front of Larry, Bill, Bill, Bill Russell.
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You know, there's just so many guys that if you look back on their career, I mean, he's the most accomplished champion that's ever played any sport of all time.
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You know, I'm just and I mean, it's just it's just he played when the league was also half its size and it was right.
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There was also half the teams e I mean, Askew said.
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Kobe is Kobe is one of the greatest scores of all time and one of the greatest competitors of all time, one of the greatest people of all time.
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But you know, just just because I'm in Los Angeles and I had season tickets, so like there's most of my life.
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I met Kobe multiple times.
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It doesn't change the fact that there were people before him that rank higher all the time.
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Yeah, I feel you and I feel you and it's all just opinion based, Really, I said it's very true, but I really, honestly think I who I've seen, I haven't seen.
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But wrestle played, of course, of course, of course, a whole other story.
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But Kobe, I think he's top three.
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If not number one as far as putting the bar in the bucket.
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A Sfar as being the greatest basketball player ever? I do think so.
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Skill set wise. Yes.
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Greatest basketball leader ever.
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Yes, I do think so.
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He's with any young aspiring asked me coming up right now.
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Should wanna be ****ing starting schools production companies.
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He's made the right move.
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Hey, put his boys in position of power the right way without ****ing ****ing his money off.
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So, I mean, he did a lot of things the right way.
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Um, so I think for that, yes, his legacy is already, you know, the top.
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But when it comes to rings, he's been there.
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Hell, a lot of times.
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****ing 89 times in the last 10 years, which is amazing.
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That's nobody's doing that.
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But I think for him the top N j.
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Just because MJ so efficient he's gonna have to get one more.
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He's gonna have to get one more just for him toe to top it.
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And if he gets six, it's ****ing over.
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It's ****ing over.
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And if he gets seven, it's done. Set it up.
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It's done already.
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Uh, but the fact that he's got three with three different organizations, all in VP.
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You can't.
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You can't.
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I mean, because follow follow trends follow trends on that happens to be all around one individual for the last 15 years.
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10 specifically.
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So I mean, Alex, what's your take up, bro? I feel like I'm one of the very few that are from my generation that, you know, didn't grow up watching MJ That actually still has MJ above LeBron.
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If you're talking greatest overall talent, of course you put LeBron it number one because, I mean, he's He played point guard this year for the first time and led the league in assists.
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So you know his skill and his Yeah.
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No, no, for sure, for sure.
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But I still have MJ over him.
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I mean, six for six.
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Look, you can get to the game is many times, but when you're talking about, you're talking about the goat.
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But it is.
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But it isn't, is it is LeBron for for Tom Brady.
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For all those times that that he's lost.
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Has anybody else gotten close to that? What he's done? What was that for? Everything that Tom Brady has done, you know, he's had a couple rough loss in the Super Bowl.
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Is there anybody else that's been close to what he's done? No, I mean usually be Peyton Manning would be the next, probably on the list.
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That would be the next accomplished, but it's also Tom Brady.
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You know, there's that ongoing question of, you know, and now we're seeing it.
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Now It is it have to do with Bill.
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And is it Tom Brady's fault that he's been blessed with some of the best, the best organization, the best potentially coach in the NFL history? And but that Zao the cookie crumbles? I mean, you could you could be, ah, player that goes toe Zaw statistically.
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But statistically, he's also the go, and he's also never walked away from the game toe where it's like, Well, if you if he was there for five more years, he's been there.
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He's 40 something years old.
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You can put the numbers, the statistics, the championships, everything in front.
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While MJ it's, you know, the efficiency of the championships is attached, obviously most champion of all time and the most influential era of that time and probably still not just on the court but in culture with the Jordans and you know, everything like that.
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But again, like, you know, you're comparing a guy where the scientists really aren't even that close anymore and anything like that.
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And it's Oh, because he walked away and stuff and it's, Yeah, people can just keep hanging on to the six for six.
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You know, there's too many things that LeBron has done as an individual player that it's like, How do you just ignore the fact that this is a great greatest time? It relates to successes, though like greatest, it is accomplished.
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That's why greatest, greatest individual players in terms of ability.
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****, yeah, put him right there in terms of greatest all time of the sport.
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I can't put him there yet once you get finals appearances like everything along those lines, like right now, like out of the to the Buffalo Bills.
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Teams that made all the Super Bowls are they? Are they top teams in NFL history? I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know why that's relevant. I just don't know why that's relevant.
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Know what I'm saying is right now Jordan has the most rings.
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He did it the most efficient way.
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Yes, LeBron hasn't No, no, no.
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I'm seeing in terms of like in terms of in terms, of the better players he has the most right.
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And unless you want to Robert Hardy And there have that.
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But the exact way conversation, though it's like if you are just talking about that.
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What? Why isn't Robert there? I'm just saying I'm just saying it, But if it's just like Okay, well, six for six.
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There's so many players that have that many champion.
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There's so many players that have four or 56 that are not even at.
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We can't even consider them all stars not like and and that where it's like that's all you're gonna lean on.
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But statistically, it's not even like it's almost like a joke.
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It's almost a joke now you know statistically and you also look at the fact that didn't matter where he's gone.
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The MBA's revolved around one man, not revolved around one team, the Chicago Bulls, but revolved around one man.
00:21:27
It Z.
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I understand what you're saying, and of course, everything that you say and everyone else says this valley, it's all opinionated.
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Of course, I'm just passionate Everyone's passionate it, of course, when it comes to the goat debate.
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But you know, I do tend to look at were you are talking about who is the most gifted, who is the most skilled, who is the most talent, who is statistically the best that way.
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75% while the rings would be the other 25 since it's half oven individual standpoint, half of a team standpoint and and M J was the most blessed player of all time besides potentially.
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You know, Tim Duncan was blessed.
00:22:00
Aziz well, but like, other than that, like Bill Russell was blessed with Red are back in a week league.
00:22:05
But MJ was and is it his fault that he had the best coach of all time and some of the best teams of all time? ****, no, like good for him.
00:22:11
But LeBron's never been even like people laugh.
00:22:14
When you say this is one of the best teams of all time, the Lakers, because they're not then the heat, the Cavs, none of them, you know in reality, it's because you have the greatest athlete of all time and it doesn't ****ing matter who you have on the team where you can't say that with MJ.
00:22:27
But he also could be like, Well, if he did leave, it probably would have been like that.
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But it's all theoretical, you know what I mean? So it's a lot of theoretical.
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I would say What? Statistically, I'll go head count.
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I think the real question is, um how how big of the emphasis are we putting on the ring? Absolutely.
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They have to have an emphasis, though.
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Has to have an emphasis, but it has to have, like, what? Percentage out of 100.
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You know, if you're considering statistics you're considering, you know your own accolades, as in all Stars, MVPs, all these different things, what percentage of you as an individual would that way and then what percentage would strictly be? How many championships do you have? You know, out of 100 would you say it's 50 50? Would you say it's 75% more for the individual standpoint, and then 25% debating attack team statistic happen dual.
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So I guess that depends on how you look at it.
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But if anything, it has to be 50 50 in my opinion, if not skewed more towards looking at the individual as an individual and then also the team statistics secondary, you know? Yeah, you guys, you guys make a lot of great points there.
00:23:33
I I think LeBron is close, but I don't think he's passed him yet.
00:23:38
The one thing I'll agree with Oliver is what Caleb says.
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If he gets a 53 next year or sixth, this debate is over.
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But in my opinion, if he had a better record before this 10th n b a Finals appearance, if he did it if he didn't choke that MBA Finals in 2011 or if he did underperform in some moments in 2014 if you were instead of three and six, if we were four and five or five, but is But is it better to lose in the first round? Multiple times like MJ and the Bulls did multiple times, while LeBron's never less so, it's better to go toe eight straight champion, eight straight championships, 10 and nine out of 10 and have a worse finals record but never losing the first round and you're there every single year.
00:24:18
But it's no one talks about the fact that M.
00:24:20
J and the Bulls have lost multiple first round playoff series.
00:24:23
So, like what's, what's more important? The fact that he's six for six when they got there, but the other four or five times they didn't get there? Or is it important that LeBron's been there? Didn't matter what team, what chemistry, no matter where they were.
00:24:35
And he's there year in and year out, and you're going to compare finals records.
00:24:39
But the fact that you're saying that homeboy has been there for X amount of finals where MJ and the Bulls have lost in that first round multiple times It didn't matter what scrubs and let's say, Scrubs, that LeBron played with throughout his career.
00:24:51
With the exception of a couple of those teams, mainly the Miami Heat and now the Lakers, he will those teams to the chance to get a championship urine and you're out.
00:25:02
What like that's what I'm saying.
00:25:03
You say six for six.
00:25:05
But like no one remote like, how many times has he lost in the first round, second round? Like LeBron James, you look back at that and it's not even a similar kind of thing because it didn't matter where he is or who he's with.
00:25:15
He's there because of the individual and the greatness that they're in a much more competitive league, too.
00:25:20
People you got guys in the G League that are like, What the **** is that guy eating for breakfast? How the hell is he not playing in the N B A.
00:25:28
And you look at some of MJ's competition and they're me 5 ft 11 £165 Caucasian guards like me in high school.
00:25:37
You look at the ****ing measurements, bro.
00:25:39
That, like a guy like that, would not succeed in this league with the exception of a few athletic freaks.
00:25:45
And you've got a guy like Alex Crusoe throw that guy's name.
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He's still 6 ft two, I think, and you see the hops that that guy has.
00:25:52
Do you think John Paxton had the hops that Alex Caruso has, or even half of the athleticism? It's not even a ****ing competition.
00:25:59
M.
00:26:00
J succeeded at a time where there wasn't even half the athleticism that there is in 2020 2010 2000, and people say that LeBron played in this kind of softer era.
00:26:09
He played in the dead ball era.
00:26:11
He played in the Ron Artest era.
00:26:12
He played in that era, and now he's playing.
00:26:15
In this era, he's been in multiple eras and has not just been the best, but not even a close debate for the best player in the world and the most accomplished player in the world.
00:26:25
So versatility, accomplishments, all these things.
00:26:29
And if you're just gonna compare eras, that level of competition and skill that it takes to win in this area in comparison to the past isn't even close because it's just called evolution of man.
00:26:39
Evolution of technology, evolution of sport.
00:26:42
It's just how it is.
00:26:43
But like people don't want to say that you want to compare apples for oranges, you know? But it's not so sorry for my rant.
00:26:50
But e you can't You got me going, Matt.
00:26:57
You got me going. Here's the thing.
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Here's the thing.
00:27:00
That Look, look, Perry, I totally get that argument.
00:27:02
I really dio.
00:27:04
But at the end of the day, in terms of legacy, they're not gonna look about They're not gonna look at how many times you've got there.
00:27:11
They're gonna look at how many times you hung up a rafter? Look, look, it would be different.
00:27:15
Peri Peri.
00:27:17
It would be different, Perry.
00:27:19
It would be best finish, you skip. Let me finish.
00:27:23
It would be so different if this sixth or fifth and six rings or her six ring was something where he was a complementary piece like he was a part of, like the team that will willed his team there.
00:27:34
Same way that LeBron has with his team to win four championships.
00:27:37
Unfortunately, when you're talking about greatest of all time is, will his team two championships like that team? If you look back on the history of basketball, four out of those championship teams were the best four teams of all time.
00:27:51
Besides that Golden State Warriors team that one year, four best teams of all time, not even a question record wise, skill wise.
00:27:57
When it comes to that that era, when you're comparing it, it's not even a question.
00:28:00
Give me one team that LeBron has been on that would even compare to any of the teams that have been on the Bulls.
00:28:06
One team that would even be a top 10 team of all time that LeBron has been on in his entire career because there's not not the super team because he's will didn't get a better team.
00:28:16
Now we're gonna, like, change it.
00:28:17
No, it's not.
00:28:19
That broad has been blessed the way the cookie crumbles pair.
00:28:22
You could be drafted to the worst team and your career.
00:28:25
Is she? It doesn't matter where he is.
00:28:27
10 finals appearances? Yes, A or championship wins greatest of all time.
00:28:33
But losing in the first round is but losing in the first rounds. Acceptable.
00:28:37
That's okay, which he did twice.
00:28:40
You have to go up against a bad boy.
00:28:42
Pistons like bad boy ****es.
00:28:44
Oh God.
00:28:46
LeBron came back 13 against the best team of all time.
00:28:49
That Warriors team like that's it.
00:28:52
Like it's It's like I understand what you're saying, but it's just like go.
00:28:56
But individually.
00:28:57
Statistically, it's not even a question.
00:28:59
Actually, it's not even a question you understand player in their era, where you're absolutely right, and that's why the MJ is the second best player of all time.
00:29:07
Like it's not saying he's bad.
00:29:08
People are saying it's just the fact that e only carry so much e yes, but Michael Jordan was one of the most dominant players in that era.
00:29:18
LeBron is also one of the most dominant players in in the era.
00:29:21
LeBron puts a million dollars.
00:29:23
Thankfully, now that medicine is the way it is to keep his body his full.
00:29:28
A gambling addiction wanted Thio mourn the loss of a family member for way too long, which we all experience in life and then decided to play another sport if someone said that in the group yesterday, Corey said in particular, if if LeBron is well stepped away from the game for any amount of time, let alone years, multiple times, his legacy wouldn't be a legacy, he'd be a fraud.
00:29:50
He would be this.
00:29:51
He'd be that.
00:29:52
But it's it's not like that, knowing because he didn't have social media, MJ didn't have any of that stuff.
00:29:56
He could do whatever the **** he wanted and nobody cared.
00:29:58
But now there's a spotlight is what everything is scrutinized.
00:30:01
But it's just MJ was untouched because he was the Messiah.
00:30:04
But in reality, every decision, How is his legacy? Not tart like How is it the fact that he quit on his team And how is the fact that he didn't continue a career that you're saying? I'm just saying like, Oh, and by the way, I completely agree.
00:30:16
Me and Alex ****ing killing this were a main basketball guy were going at it right now.
00:30:25
Yeah, and if and if we had to choose, I think Perry would be Mr Shannon Sharpe and Alex would be escape.
00:30:31
But well, I do have to agree with what Alex said.
00:30:34
Yes, LeBron LeBron did make it to 10 n b A Finals, but you only 14 times.
00:30:40
MJ made it six and went six.
00:30:42
But Mary, what? What team is even top 15 of all time for LeBron teams that have been to the championship, which, and you could tell me which which teams remember even top 15 the talent that have been to the championship with the fourth.
00:30:55
You want to start the Oh, you know LeBron he's been on that.
00:31:02
He's been to the championships.
00:31:03
Is there even like we're the only teams you could even give? That debate would be one of the like one or two of those years of the heat years.
00:31:09
And then this is what the Lakers, and it's not.
00:31:11
They're not top 15 teams from talking about.
00:31:13
You're not talking coaches.
00:31:14
You're looking at you.
00:31:16
You're looking at coaches.
00:31:18
I know he's not even you're looking at coaching.
00:31:20
You're looking at team and you're looking at general manager altogether.
00:31:23
The Bulls had the best true of all time.
00:31:25
You have the best coach of all time, who is a championship machine, because when he left, the cookie crumbles.
00:31:32
But I'm just saying, getting to its place 10 times and then loose.
00:31:35
But the way the cookie crumbles is just e.
00:31:39
LeBron crumbling all over the league, and it doesn't matter where he's at.
00:31:43
You feel me? Yeah, the same way, the same way.
00:31:48
The Jazz, the same way.
00:31:50
The Jazz and all these other teams that ran into the buzzsaw.
00:31:53
That was the Bulls.
00:31:54
Unfortunately for LeBron, he ran into the buzzsaw, which was the Warriors, especially after the Arcady like That's just it's the way the cookie crumbles at the finals.
00:32:04
He ran into those guys at the finals.
00:32:06
Yeah, there's no time that he's been bounced first round or like first round twice, which is just it's ignored s considering 68 s considering considering 68.
00:32:18
No, no. Consider him six for eight.
00:32:20
If you're gonna consider his two first round bounces, the same thing is getting to the finals and losing those.
00:32:25
If that's not worse than getting to the promised land and losing, consider MJ six for eight.
00:32:30
He's no longer the most efficient champion of all time like that.
00:32:33
That's how you wanna put it.
00:32:34
There was another one, I believe, two times, and he was sitting around, so he expert spend.
00:32:39
But it was none for LeBron for, ah, whole 17 years.
00:32:42
Not once has he lost in the first round.
00:32:44
And you think that goes into the goat debate, though that yes, that means doesn't matter what she team he's on.
00:32:50
He's willing those teams to the championship.
00:32:52
I can't believe I can't believe you're ignoring the fact that MJ ignore e has more championships.
00:33:00
They each with a dominant player, and they're also they're also a team statistics.
00:33:05
Half of that is a team statistic, the other half his individual based.
00:33:08
But I'm just saying statistically as well. Let's talk.
00:33:11
Let's talk about statistic.
00:33:12
It's not even a ****ing question.
00:33:13
LeBron beats him in every category it's not even close.
00:33:16
It's just It's just how, if you wanna talk about how the cookie crumbles, it crumbles both ways.
00:33:20
But at the end of the day, you gotta focus on not just the six for six.
00:33:23
But all the things that are ignored is lack of dedication to his team, walking away, cutting his career short, first round bounces, all of those things that get ignored.
00:33:30
But everything LeBron does get scrutinized.
00:33:32
It's just different eras, because nowadays everything is on a spotlight.
00:33:35
But in flats, LeBron did half the **** that MJ did.
00:33:38
People would even give him that conversation because they would tarnish him as this **** person as this person that didn't take the sport seriously.
00:33:44
But it's a different areas.
00:33:45
So LeBron's got to be the perfect angel and do everything off the court for even people to even give him a debate that he's one of the he deserves that respect.
00:33:53
Absolutely, which what he said afterwards, the fact that, like at least I know that you guys are giving him respect.
00:33:58
I'm not No, I'm not e literally just one of the grades out of my mouth.
00:34:03
I just said I know you all give him the respect.
00:34:05
I literally just said that as you cut me off.
00:34:08
But other people don't.
00:34:09
There's other people that still won't even put him in like a top three or top five.
00:34:13
And at that point, it's like, Don't even talk basketball with us because you can't even look at that for what it is.
00:34:19
And that's ridiculous.
00:34:20
Because if you hate LeBron, you hate MJ.
00:34:22
You hate Kobe.
00:34:23
You hate any of these guys.
00:34:24
You need to look at their careers.
00:34:26
Dissect him like like he's saying Alex, he's not saying LeBron.
00:34:29
So I'm not saying I'm James bad.
00:34:30
MJ's the second greatest bass player of all time.
00:34:32
He's saying LeBron's the second greatest.
00:34:33
That's insane to even have two guys be the top of their sport, so they're both absolutely transcendent.
00:34:39
But there's never been a more disrespected athlete in the world than LeBron James in the history of sports, and it's going to continue and he'll get his flowers once it's done, and then there won't be a debate.
00:34:48
But I've really been on this ****.
00:34:51
Caleb, do you have? Do you have anything else to add to do this? E fantastic.
00:35:00
I love I love the e love.
00:35:03
I love the conversation.
00:35:05
It was definitely skipped First.
00:35:07
Shannon Sharpe. Right there.
00:35:09
Uh, let's move on to the devastating Dak Prescott injury.
00:35:13
We actually have a diehard Cowboys fan in this dream.
00:35:17
It is the boss man, Mr.
00:35:19
Perry asked him.
00:35:20
So I will ask the cowboy fan this question.
00:35:25
What? What happens now? I'll start off by saying this.
00:35:28
I'll start off with the Cowboys for the rest of the season.
00:35:32
Do you have confidence that Andy Dalton can still leave this Cowboys team to a potential division division championship with roster that they have? I know you asked that.
00:35:43
First, I'm going to just touch on Dak Prescott first, and then I'll talk about that directly.
00:35:47
After I You know, I'm one of the biggest Cowboys fans in the world.
00:35:50
I'm possibly even a bigger dak Prescott fan.
00:35:52
I just think the guys I treat him the same way I treated Tony Romo when he was around, and it's just one of those guys that you just wish you could get that extra help with that extra coaching.
00:36:00
But it's just putting the team on their back, just amazing person like and with that press, kind of particular, especially one of the faces of mental health and just a great guy like he's never done anything negative in the spotlight like he's always giving back.
00:36:12
You hate to see this kind of injuries happen, you know, it's it's heartbreaking.
00:36:16
You see him get off the field crying, and you have to be a Cowboys fan to just ****ing feel for a guy like that.
00:36:21
Like I know all of us cover sports here.
00:36:23
All of us, like, hopefully played sports at some point and got to feel that level of competitiveness.
00:36:27
And you just that sucks so bad, man to see a guy go down, especially on a contract year and having he broke the passing record for the first four games for yardage, like he's having statistically one of the better years of all time.
00:36:40
Obviously, the team was just absolute **** on the other side of the ball.
00:36:43
But I mean, he's balling the guys going out there, and he's having a good time.
00:36:46
And he's balling and, you know, have him go down like that.
00:36:48
****ing sucks.
00:36:49
So, you know, shout out to Dag.
00:36:50
I hope for a speedy recovery.
00:36:52
Put out a really, really good, encouraging video today.
00:36:55
Looks like he's on the right track.
00:36:57
I read 3 to 4 months for a timeline.
00:37:00
I wouldn't be surprised to be challenged.
00:37:02
2 to 3.
00:37:03
That's what I read in certain places.
00:37:05
He really wants to rehab extremely quickly, so, you know, shout out to dock.
00:37:09
But like you said, no, I'll answer your question for Andy Dalton and the Cowboys.
00:37:13
If there is a division that a team with one of the worst defense is of all the time that I've ever watched and a backup quarterback can make the playoffs, it's the N F.
00:37:23
C s.
00:37:24
So, you know, with the Eagles and the Redskins and the Giants also all equally as ****ty as the Cowboys this year, And the Cowboys by far have the most talented roster in that division, which is even sadder that they're in the spot that they were even before Dak Prescott went down the record that they had with Jack, you know, and this terrible defense, it's just absolutely embarrassing, and they're in first place, you know what I mean? Like that right now, It Z That's how that that you know what Alex said. That's how the cookie crumbles.
00:37:55
And it's It's a ****ty cookie.
00:37:57
It's like this really dry cookie that's been sitting on the counter top out of its packaging for like, three weeks, and you put in your hand and it crumbles like that.
00:38:04
That's how bad it's crumbling for the Cowboys.
00:38:05
But you know, they can keep it together.
00:38:07
Andy Dalton.
00:38:08
Why do you sign Andy Dalton in the off season? It was a chess move to get Dak Prescott to sign that franchise tag and not hold out of camp because there was rumors that he was gonna hold out.
00:38:18
You go out and sign of extremely capable backup, a guy that could definitely start and had started in this league for a while.
00:38:25
So what does that Prescott do? He signs the franchise tag.
00:38:27
Jerry, get some more time.
00:38:29
Thio evaluate his options and Dak Prescott, two cowboys.
00:38:32
So it was a great move.
00:38:33
And why else do you do it? Because when Romo went down, you know, multiple times our backup quarterbacks were you know, Jon Kitna, who was so old at that point and then you know, Orton, you know, and it's It was just embarrassing how some of these talented teams, the second our quarterback would go down.
00:38:50
You make the playoffs or get right close to it.
00:38:53
And then this backup just would just be giving games away.
00:38:56
So with Andy Dome, he's got a career winning record.
00:38:59
He's a multi time Pro Bowler.
00:39:01
He's an established NFL quarterback.
00:39:04
You know, if you're comparing backups around the league, the only guy that could even I think challenge for a starting job at the same point as Andy Dalton right now would probably be what? Mitchell Travis Key with Nick Foles.
00:39:16
Like what other backup quarterback in the league? Skill wise and record wise.
00:39:21
And you know where they're at in their career would be ready to step in the way that Andy Dalton is ready to step in, you know, And that's not even as a Cowboys fan.
00:39:29
And he just looked at the career that Dalton's had. He has.
00:39:32
He's only not been a starter for what, half a year like he was really the last half of the year last year when they ended up putting in Jeff Driskel and he kind of rode out in the sunset.
00:39:43
So it's not even like he's that far out of a starting position.
00:39:46
So I mean, the Cowboys in a good spot.
00:39:48
If Zeke Elliot doesn't step up things, team is not gonna get identity.
00:39:52
You gotta be able to run the ball and any Dalton can stretch the field.
00:39:56
You know that defense is going to give up 30 to 45 points a game, so you're gonna have to put up a lot of points.
00:40:01
But it's ****ing embarrassing, you know, with that defense.
00:40:04
And you know, the old line is banged up, and it's not the same old line it used to be.
00:40:09
So you know, it's not like the Cowboys are anything to write home about necessarily right now.
00:40:13
But they have some serious star power at certain positions and a brand new coaching staff, which is not working right now.
00:40:20
So you gotta stay optimistic.
00:40:23
You know, Jason Garrett was the epitome of mediocre, so you gotta give another guy a shot with a brand new coaching staff and Dak Prescott going down does not make that easier, so we'll see what Andy Dalton could do.
00:40:33
But if I was in any other division.
00:40:36
As a Cowboys fan, I would be feeling like this is time to rebuild and look towards the draft.
00:40:41
But sadly enough, we are very much in the playoff hunt and will be the whole year because of how ****ty the division is.
00:40:48
So, yeah, they definitely have a chance and probably the highest chance.
00:40:51
Which is that Yeah, definitely made some great points there.
00:40:55
I wanna then shoot out the same question toe Michael's.
00:40:58
Caleb, What do your thoughts on the on the deck? Prescott Prescott injuries like How? Like if you're Dak Prescott and the whole back story was Prescott.
00:41:10
Jerry Jones offered him a contract.
00:41:11
He offered him remember a five year, $175 million deal.
00:41:16
But he turned that down because he wanted more.
00:41:19
Now that he is hurt And what what? What do you do now? If you're Dak Prescott, do you come back and simply say, say, you know, hey, I still wanna be off of that money Or do you maybe take Jerry Jones? Is next franchise tag offer, which would be $37 million and then just simply run it back again? Went, went healthy.
00:41:44
Uh, this time, I think he's going to secure the bag, start off with He's got to secure the back.
00:41:50
Can't afford another one of these injuries again.
00:41:54
Because then that's when teams they're really gonna use their leverage toe cut him short with the money.
00:41:59
So I think he's going to really secure the bag long term with the contract in years.
00:42:05
Um, I feel bad for that.
00:42:08
He was honestly to me.
00:42:09
I think he was having NDP type numbers.
00:42:12
He was having an M v p candidate type year.
00:42:15
Um, what happened? I'm not I'm not too concerned.
00:42:20
I think he'll come back.
00:42:22
Be fine.
00:42:23
Let him sit this year, maybe you guys could tank for Trevor and let him go.
00:42:27
You feel me? But, um, I think that really I think they already out of that race, Really.
00:42:33
I mean, it's sad to say, but with the two wins that they have, I really think they're already out of the Trevor race.
00:42:37
There's gonna be one win teams there's going to be, and he's gonna be the consensus number one pick for sure.
00:42:43
E Yeah, e I mean, they I mean, they need that I was gonna say they need some ****ing defense, man. They need a safety.
00:42:52
They need an alignment again, like they need defensive line help, especially a defensive tackle cornerback like there's a lot of positions that I think prioritize over Cube because I really think with deck, you know, this is I mean, I hate to say it's a business, obviously, So Jerry Jones.
00:43:10
It helps him and then regards to negotiations.
00:43:13
But you know, he did release Dax said.
00:43:16
I'm a cowboy for life, like a month or two ago.
00:43:18
And then literally this week, Jerry Jones said, Quote.
00:43:21
He's special.
00:43:22
He's our future.
00:43:23
So it's, It's I don't know how you can get more reassurance than that from your owner when he says he's the future.
00:43:30
So with that being said, is he Is he the future of this year? I'm just saying, Is he gonna Is he in a position to even negotiate a long term contract this year after an injury? I hate as the biggest Jack fan ever.
00:43:41
I want the guy to get paid more than anything.
00:43:44
I just truly don't, um, see it happening at the level that he would find.
00:43:49
I'd rather his expectations have to change in regards to the price while still having the years of security.
00:43:55
Or he's gonna have to run this back the exact same way.
00:43:59
Sign the franchise tag again, which is gonna be really, really good for annual money but like you said, won't have the security and he'd be taking a chance on himself again.
00:44:09
But, you know, I really don't think that, you know he's in the best spot for negotiations for a long term contract.
00:44:16
This even though the Jerry Jones is a very loyal man on his big on him. So I wouldn't be surprised.
00:44:21
But it's rather Dax.
00:44:23
Gotta bring that price down a little bit and realize his position of negotiations.
00:44:27
Or it's gonna have to sign that tag and take another chance on himself.
00:44:30
You know what I mean? I mean, if they're not giving them a good security blanket within years for that ****, that's what I'm saying.
00:44:39
But that **** I'm getting the **** out of Dallas.
00:44:42
E mean, somebody's in a pan, somebody on him and it's like, Okay, I bring my prices down.
00:44:47
If you bring the price down thing, let me get 5 to 6 years, maybe even seven.
00:44:51
You for me, not seven.
00:44:52
That's a little bit much, much, but like like 5 to 6 years e.
00:44:57
I mean, I would love I would love him there.
00:44:58
I mean, the thing is to you, look at the injury.
00:45:00
It's It's not like a major concern for him moving forward.
00:45:04
It's not like a tourney Keeley's or something that is notorious for sapping you.
00:45:10
It's true.
00:45:11
I mean, that's any injury.
00:45:12
Of course, if you don't rehab correctly, if the surgery doesn't go quickly, just hinders you.
00:45:15
You just never have the same confidence.
00:45:17
Like obviously, totally, absolutely.
00:45:19
But you know, at least from what I'm reading, it seems like it's pretty routine.
00:45:22
And the surgery went extremely well, and obviously with the kind of work ethic he is, I think the rehab is gonna go probably pretty well and probably expedited.
00:45:30
He'll probably go even harder than you're supposed to go for the rehab just to try and push that time line up.
00:45:35
So I mean re injury.
00:45:37
I mean, you always gotta look at that, but it's not like one of these injuries that's like can linger forever.
00:45:42
You know, it seems like It's like you get it repaired.
00:45:45
And it seems like you're back too.
00:45:46
I'm pretty sure.
00:45:47
Alex, you told me you had something similar.
00:45:50
Correct.
00:45:52
My my, aren't My hand was over here at a compound fracture.
00:45:56
Bone sticking out.
00:45:57
Same same level.
00:45:58
It's just the Onley worry you have.
00:46:01
Is this getting surgery within eight hours, which, for the most part, you should be fine After that, it's the mental gap of getting hit the first time, but other But other than that deck's gonna have the best doctors is gonna be well taken care of.
00:46:13
I think he'll be back back in Dallas and will earn that contract that that has been a hot debate in all of our group jets.
00:46:21
Absolutely.
00:46:22
It's between between the goat debate and the dak Prescott. It.
00:46:26
Chris, What's up, buddy? What's up, buddy? Yeah, no Red rifle time.
00:46:30
And we we just talked about this before you jumped in.
00:46:32
I mean, sad enough.
00:46:33
Absolutely.
00:46:34
He's their playoff bound.
00:46:35
I mean, they have the worst division in the history of ****ing football.
00:46:38
It feels like right now Absolutely, absolutely.
00:46:42
I Absolutely.
00:46:43
It's That's a good one.
00:46:44
Yeah, they need thio.
00:46:46
Um, find identity with running game and get six confidence up for future because I mean Andy Dalton.
00:46:51
He's in his mid thirties, you know, It's not like he's the future by any means, but he could He could still sling it.
00:46:58
You know, you gotta find an identity.
00:46:59
You gotta You gotta give him the chance to sling it.
00:47:01
They don't have a great offensive line.
00:47:03
You're gonna have to open up that play action with Zeke and Z.
00:47:07
Cannot be fumbling the ball, which was a problem earlier in the year.
00:47:10
And he's openly admitted that he's a big reason why you know, the records.
00:47:14
Not as great as it looks.
00:47:15
Because when it counts, you know he's fumbling.
00:47:17
And then the defense given up a touchdown, huh? Is he starting safety? E feel like he he probably even be more athletic than are starting safety.
00:47:27
Seriously, if you put sick at both sides of the ball, I would probably feel better just knowing that you have a beast out there.
00:47:31
But, you know, I don't know.
00:47:33
Even I don't think that our defense has any dog in them.
00:47:36
And late band rushes, you know, out who is the heart of that defense.
00:47:40
And Jaylin Smith doesn't look like a leader right now.
00:47:42
And DeMarcus Lawrence finally had a strip sack last game, but he's been dead for 13 14 games in a row.
00:47:49
E I mean, Alden Alden Smith is the primary pass rush and one of the league leaders in sacks and Homeboy hasn't played football in ****ing five years.
00:48:00
He just strapped back up and was like, Yeah, wait, Wilhelmina, my wearing I'm Gucci like, Let's go like I got like, a lot of C four in my system right now.
00:48:07
I got some crazy on a pre workout.
00:48:09
Let's get it and he just He's back, you know? But you got a guy who's conditioning signs of major contract with the team in the prime of your career, and you get a half a sack in 14 games.
00:48:18
DeMarcus Lawrence, like what the ****, dude like you serious? And I was so last last game.
00:48:23
At least I finally saw it.
00:48:24
I was like, Oh, my God, a strip sack If I was gonna start writing letters to his house if he if he didn't performance.
00:48:30
So I was gonna just start begging and a very nice fashion.
00:48:32
And then they were gonna continually, progressively get more and more angry and aggressive, as as the weeks went on where he didn't perform.
00:48:38
But, you know, cowboys don't have a lot to write home about, but they are blessed to be with the s*** of the league.
00:48:45
Mhm.
00:48:46
Yeah, like in the words of Stephen A.
00:48:48
Smith, the NFC East is filled with bona fide scrubs.
00:48:52
They can't play no disrespect to him.
00:48:55
Can't play eso on.
00:48:59
I'm gonna my take of it.
00:49:02
I think the deck Prescott injury is it is truly devastating.
00:49:05
I mean, you look at he he banked on himself on getting more money and it back fired.
00:49:12
You know, whether whether whether that is for, uh whether that's for, like, his agent, whether his agent was greedy or whether it was just simply deck wanted to bake on it himself, You know that.
00:49:25
That's always the risk of banking on yourself in signing a franchise tech because something like this could happen.
00:49:32
And, you know, I kind of feel like Jerry Jones is is almost obligated to pay deck, because if he doesn't, he's gonna be portrayed as a villain.
00:49:42
You know, I think the smart choice for Jerry Jones would be to give him back the franchise tag because, in my opinion, that doesn't have any leverage.
00:49:49
If we're being off, he's got no leverage like, absolutely.
00:49:52
The one level she has is like I made the playoffs two times and four years, one year playoff game.
00:49:59
Uh, he's got loyal.
00:50:01
He's got loyalty to work with is pretty much all you got at this point because, yeah, you're on a on a contract here.
00:50:07
You gotta look at the statistics and look at the production and you only have four games.
00:50:11
So now I do think that does day, but I think that has to pony up in except the franchise, because what we're gonna room does.
00:50:20
Does he have he? He has no leverage.
00:50:22
What? What's Jerry Jones is gonna look at, Dex? Contract on? Somebody wants it.
00:50:25
He's basically gonna laugh at him.
00:50:26
He's gonna be like like, you really think I'm gonna pay you almost $40 million when you just completely shattered your ankle in half? Not you're getting franchise tech again.
00:50:36
And if you prove yourself worthy, I will give you I will give you your contract because Jerry is a man of his word.
00:50:44
He will pay guys if they play good.
00:50:46
If they play great at the time, Jerry Jones will pay the money.
00:50:50
It's not like where, where you know they play great and he lets him walk.
00:50:53
No, you will pay him.
00:50:54
He's just he's always.
00:50:56
He's always been notorious for taking care of his people, always, even if you, even if you would prefer a different move, whatever it may have been like, he's notorious for locking up his guys.
00:51:04
So we'll see.
00:51:06
I mean, like, I think we mentioned earlier.
00:51:07
If he is in a position to negotiate security and he views security in regards to years more than annual salary, he's gonna have to dip that expectation down.
00:51:17
And unfortunately, that's just reality.
00:51:20
But if not like you said, you know you're gonna be getting, what, 30 $40 million on that franchise tag, and that's plenty for the year.
00:51:27
And you just got to feel confident that your back and better than ever, you know, Yeah, definitely some some great points made throughout.
00:51:35
Let's let's move on to to the Atlanta Falcons.
00:51:40
They finally did something right even though their own five.
00:51:44
They finally got rid of Dan Quinn and they finally got rid of their GM.
00:51:49
May have been a couple of years too late, But, you know, sometimes you live and learn from your mistakes and they did the right thing.
00:51:58
They fired Dan Quinn, which pretty much now I think everybody looks at Dan Quinn has basically a fraud because look at the only highlight that he was was all he was a defensive coordinator for the Legion of Boom in the Seattle Seahawks went.
00:52:11
They were just simply blessed with Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor all in their primes.
00:52:15
I mean, that was such a killer defense to go up against.
00:52:19
And really, the Falcons just made poor decisions.
00:52:21
In my opinion, after, I would have done my very best to keep Kyle Shanahan because way have they have to feel so bad, have they? Can you imagine? Could you imagine that the Falcons have Kyle Shanahan right now? They would do.
00:52:36
They would still be in playoff contention.
00:52:38
Now, the only the only team the only team that should feel worse is the Redskins.
00:52:42
When they technically had Sean McVeigh and Shanahan both on their rosters and decided with Gruden instead.
00:52:49
And I think they also have Matt LaFleur.
00:52:51
Who is? They didn't 73 they did that for three guys.
00:52:57
You let slip three guys, you let slip away.
00:53:01
Yeah, and that's the thing.
00:53:02
And you know what? Sometimes you gotta learn the hard way.
00:53:05
Sometimes you gotta learn what? When you suck real bad.
00:53:08
And you're just like, Wow, I I just I had I had Kyle Shanahan in my lab and I decided not to pay him and let him go to San Fran.
00:53:19
And he has had success in San Francisco.
00:53:21
Went to his who will last year.
00:53:22
And now we're basically stuck in the gutter.
00:53:25
But you know, you live and learn, and I just want to direct this question to you.
00:53:29
Caleb, where do the Falcons go go from here? Obviously, they're gonna finish out their season with their intern coach.
00:53:35
But in the off season, what head coach do you believe the Atlanta Falcons should go after? Should they go more of a college route guy? Or should they go with some offensive coordinators around this leak? That's a good question.
00:53:47
I think the front office has to make.
00:53:48
It has to make a decision on that based on where they fall after this year.
00:53:53
If they make the playoffs with Matt Ryan, show some signs of life.
00:53:57
I think they run it back, get a couple pieces that could help them win now, because on the offensive side, they have undeniable offense.
00:54:04
That's putting up numbers.
00:54:05
The guards, They tried to get a better final offense and overall, better defense.
00:54:10
But they can win now for two.
00:54:14
Uh, I think, yeah, I think the front office has to basically judge from there.
00:54:19
If they ****ing suck, then they should go get a guy in college and Lego.
00:54:24
Let Matt Ryan walk, keep that same offense and maybe try to get Trevor.
00:54:29
Um, so I think it is really based upon how they finish off this season, whether they get a guy that's established in the NFL or a college guy.
00:54:39
That's what I think.
00:54:41
I'm I'm I'm here to see what everybody else.
00:54:46
Yeah, and then I'll go.
00:54:48
I'll go with the special guys.
00:54:49
I'll go with Alex first.
00:54:51
What do you think the Falcons should do from here? That's a tough one because it just depends on the new regime if they think Matt Ryan has anything left in the tank.
00:55:03
But I think this Russia, the way it's set up yes, you have these offensive pieces.
00:55:07
Yes, Todd Gurley is having a bounce back year of sorts in terms of with all the, uh, all the doubt that people had on them.
00:55:16
But, you know, defensively, I mean, that team is a mess.
00:55:19
I mean, if you look at what, like, you know, Perry, not not in any negative way, but like if you look at the Cowboys, that offense is top tier with all the weapons they have.
00:55:27
But defensively like that's their Achilles heel.
00:55:30
It is so hard, Thio be a successful football team.
00:55:33
When you have a limited room, no margin for error.
00:55:37
So do I think they should rebuild.
00:55:40
That's kind of tough, especially with Calvin Ridley Kinda really coming into his own is this season, you know, Julio still there, But, you know, that's obviously an option there.
00:55:48
Russell Gauge had some flashes of brilliance early on.
00:55:51
I think you know, they might want to just try to build the team again.
00:55:56
Maybe just you know, see if Ridley's willing to be, ah, part of the rebuild or do something like that.
00:56:02
Because the way that this team is formatted, it's just you're just asking for trouble.
00:56:06
Absolutely.
00:56:07
No, I agree.
00:56:08
I mean, Matt Ryan's 35 years old, Aaron Rodgers for references 36 years old.
00:56:13
And it's It's not like these guys air necessarily in the twilight of their career.
00:56:18
You know, you have Brees and Brady, who are both 40 something right now and still playing.
00:56:22
Obviously, you're having the debate if they're really starting to decline now.
00:56:26
But they're still playing, and you could consider last year them still being at very, very, very high level in their forties.
00:56:34
So to say that a quarterback can extend their career.
00:56:36
Brett Farve.
00:56:37
You know a lot of these guys that are accomplished quarterbacks can go till 40.
00:56:42
It's not saying that he is one of those guys, necessarily because Father Time hits you differently, depending on who you are and how hard you go and how hard you trained and how well you take care of your body.
00:56:54
You know, it's really so many factors toe when it's just time to hang them up.
00:56:58
But I don't think Matt Ryan's there yet.
00:57:00
I still think Matt Ryan has it in the tank.
00:57:02
I still think he slings it around.
00:57:04
He is by far the best quarterback and Falcons history, statistically and no, Matt, uh, you know, Vic is probably the most exciting Falcons quarterback of all time, but he also didn't spend his entire career there.
00:57:17
Matt Ryan's been there for his entire career.
00:57:20
He got drafted by the franchise, so you know he is by far the longest tenured quarterback.
00:57:24
He's been to a Super Bowl.
00:57:25
He's won an M v P.
00:57:27
You know Matt Ryan and deserves the loyalty of the Falcons.
00:57:30
And, like Alex said, you have Julio Jones, who is so underutilized right now.
00:57:36
And for some reason, obviously, the hamstring injuries and stuff are are holding him Bacchus well.
00:57:41
But there's been a mis usage of Julio Jones for a couple of years now.
00:57:46
You know this is one of the premier talents in the league, and he's not getting sprinkled like DeAndre Hopkins is and and Michael Thomas is like, Do you see the kind of target share that these guys have the kind of attention that they're getting from their quarterbacks.
00:57:59
Julio Jones just hasn't been that guy.
00:58:02
And, you know, how long are you a decoy for? Before you're just the most dominant guy on the field and you have to feed the guy the ball.
00:58:08
But with that being said, like Alex mentioned to, Calvin really is the beneficiary of that.
00:58:12
He's blown up.
00:58:13
He is one of the one of, if not the most productive receiver in the league right now.
00:58:17
Really, you know, he's just going off and he's in his early twenties.
00:58:22
This is your guy.
00:58:23
For the rest of, you know, you got Todd Gurley, who's running well.
00:58:25
He ran for over 100 yards and a touchdown last game.
00:58:28
Theo lines.
00:58:29
Not bad.
00:58:30
They're creating holes.
00:58:31
It's not like Matt Ryan's running for his life.
00:58:33
They're not the best.
00:58:34
But, um, you know, he's got time.
00:58:36
You just need someone that's not fumbling these games away, making smart decisions and, ah, lot of the time, like Falcons were putting up enough points.
00:58:44
That's never really the issue for for them, it's not like they're not scoring enough toe win.
00:58:48
It's just their defense gives up a lot of points and they make bad decisions.
00:58:52
Just gotta pick up that that onside kick.
00:58:54
Yeah, right.
00:58:55
I mean, it's just bonehead stuff, too.
00:58:57
I mean, you have to think about Dan Quinn had a job for this long.
00:59:00
He had the 28 to 3 loss in the Super Bowl.
00:59:03
You fumble the bag to the Cowboys in a way that no team it was.
00:59:07
They were, like zero and 400 something all time in that position.
00:59:11
And the Cowboys air now that one, because of the Falcons and then the next week lose in another record breaking fashion in the fourth quarter, leading by 15 points.
00:59:21
How do you have a job after that week? Blows my mind.
00:59:24
But you know, at least they did it the week after.
00:59:26
Now they fired Queen.
00:59:28
It's not just Dan Queenie.
00:59:29
They fired the general manager as well.
00:59:31
No moves have been made to progress.
00:59:33
This team forward and they've had a lot of talent is very similar to the Cowboys.
00:59:36
You know, a very high powered offense, bone head coaching, bonehead defense most of the time, and you just only scratched the surface and you just have wasted talent wasted.
00:59:45
Guys like Romo wasted guys like Matt Ryan and you know it's it sucks to see.
00:59:50
But who knows who they bring in? That's a good question, I think.
00:59:53
Josh Lenard has made a really good point on the NFL and Wrapped show saying that Eric B.
00:59:59
Enemy, the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs, would be a very interesting higher for that high powered offense.
01:00:06
And obviously, for him to leave that dynasty of the Chiefs right now, it would have to be the right head coaching job, not just any head coaching job for be enemy, because when he was up for the job before they won the Super Bowl, he wasn't part of the reigning Super Bowl champions.
01:00:23
Now he just coached.
01:00:24
You know Pat Mahomes to the Super Bowl.
01:00:26
They win that.
01:00:27
And now this year they just get, you know, a player that will mention in a bit that just really took him over the top.
01:00:32
And I think you might.
01:00:33
You might as well already handle Lombardi Trophy over to the Kansas City Chiefs.
01:00:37
So I don't it would have to take the perfect job for Eric, the enemy to leave.
01:00:41
In my opinion, and I don't know if the Falcons are that job, but at the same time, you gotta take your opportunities when they arise.
01:00:48
So he's been slept on for a while.
01:00:50
I'd love to see Eric the enemy.
01:00:51
Get that job I love.
01:00:54
I love to see Eric.
01:00:55
Then we get the job as well. Crazy.
01:00:57
It definitely would be crazy to see Eric Bana me get the job as well.
01:01:02
And I feel like it's definitely suited suitable for him.
01:01:06
E o Josh.
01:01:18
They will.
01:01:19
They will see you in the office and they will see you without that trophy, man.
01:01:22
Chief Chief Beekeeper.
01:01:24
They have Seaman.
01:01:25
I had the Ravens as I had the Ravens.
01:01:27
Oh, Lincoln Riley.
01:01:28
That's a very interesting and I was also I was also gonna mention Lincoln Riley could be an interesting option as well.
01:01:33
His values going down right now without yeah, well, look, well, I know that Oh, you is not doing well right now, but when have we seen like, when the college teams are doing bad, we see them jump ship looking Pete Carroll.
01:01:47
USC was a powerhouse with Pete Carroll.
01:01:50
Then they had the big scandal at USC and basically Pete Carroll dipped out of their went to Seattle, and he's been the best coach for the Seattle Seahawks franchise history.
01:02:01
I think maybe if Eric the enemy says no to the job in Atlanta, I would simply say, Why not throw it out there for Lincoln Riley when we look at Lincoln, Riley basically did everything he could in Oklahoma.
01:02:12
He's led him to the cultural playoff, I believe, for three or four straight years, and we we look at this year, this could be a situation where he may look at Oh, you and just you know what? I don't think I could win a national championship here in Oh, you, why don't I just go to the NFL? I have a great offensive with Matt Ryan, Julio Jones when he's healthy.
01:02:32
Calvin Ridley.
01:02:33
I have a solid offense and, you know, I could just get a great defensive coordinator like maybe like like a weight.
01:02:39
Phillips kind of like what Sean McVeigh did in the ramps.
01:02:41
Get a good veteran defensive ***** that knows this stuff and kind of go from there.
01:02:45
And then Josh says he is held is one of great offensive minds they want Shanahan to two point.
01:02:51
Oh, I would simply say, Why not? I mean, it's worked for some things.
01:02:54
I mean, look at what the Green Bay Packers are about the floor.
01:02:56
I had no idea who the hell that dude waas.
01:02:59
And lo and behold, through two seasons, isn't a Dan Quinn considered a defensive minded coach? Yeah, it s Oh, my only question is this.
01:03:11
If that defense is so atrocious with a defensive minded coach, if you're going toe, if you're going to bring in an offensive minded coach, you better have the greatest defensive coordinator of all time.
01:03:23
If you plan on winning, I just simply think they're just needs to be a new face in Atlanta.
01:03:28
I think I think through all the meltdowns at Dan Quinn has had, I just think there has.
01:03:33
There has to be a new face and wise cheeses out here, preaching that is true.
01:03:38
I always pre preach the facts, and some people may not like it, but it's just what I dio.
01:03:45
I mean, no, no, I won't say I won't go on long grants like Perry did about M.
01:03:49
J, but I can't go on some Rancic.
01:03:51
I just wish your passion is me, as I am one day about something like I just I wish that passion on you one day, my friend.
01:03:59
No, that is so patchy.
01:04:01
Oh, no, no, no, but literally No, no.
01:04:06
I'm gonna tell you how passionate is like, I don't even joking.
01:04:08
This is a perfect time to bring this up.
01:04:10
We had him on a stream.
01:04:11
It was The question was about Dak Prescott.
01:04:13
And then he was talking about, like, the eighth play the Packers ran in 2014 Week five.
01:04:17
I was like, This guy is like, Oh, why she's Packer maniac, man.
01:04:22
I love it on.
01:04:24
And I mean, I still can't believe and let let's go and discuss this Levian Bell Designing to the Kansas City Chiefs, Perry made a bold claim and say, You should give Wrapped the Chiefs of Lombardy, my undefeated Green Bay Packers and Alex Valdez, Pittsburgh Steelers States otherwise so, I will not go that far yet.
01:04:47
I don't think you could ever They're the defending champion.
01:04:50
So you got They are.
01:04:52
They're champs.
01:04:53
They're They're the team that needs to be beat.
01:04:56
They got better.
01:04:58
They are the defending champs and they did get better.
01:05:00
But nothing is ever gift.
01:05:02
Wrapped it.
01:05:03
I mean, the Patriots went 18 and Oh, and they lost a big game and didn't complete the perfect season.
01:05:08
No team has ever had a perfect season since the 72 Dolphins is very hard to do, and nothing is ever guaranteed.
01:05:15
I mean, we we look at even though Yes, our favorite Lakers won the national champ National Championship.
01:05:20
The N B A champion this year.
01:05:21
It's not.
01:05:22
It's not guarantee that we're gonna win the championship.
01:05:24
You have tow work hard and earn it.
01:05:26
And Kansas City? Yes, they did win a championship.
01:05:29
They did add Leave Ian Bell.
01:05:31
And if he could revert back to Pittsburgh form Oh my God, this is gonna be scary.
01:05:36
But even even without Libyan Bell, they got better with Clyde, it was hell yeah, they did last year.
01:05:41
They did, But I will say I will say rest in peace toe fantasy owners traffic light energy layer.
01:05:46
That's that's gonna be a tough one, depending on how they utilize Levy on bell.
01:05:49
So if you're in fantasy, you see Le'veon Bell out for free agency and you have cloud energy there.
01:05:55
Get that duo 12 punch.
01:05:57
That would be a key toe.
01:06:01
Someone of success.
01:06:02
Uh, let's just simply talk about living on going to Kansas City.
01:06:06
I'll hand it off to you, Perry.
01:06:08
You Like I said before, you made the bold claim on you should just give Give the Chiefs back to back.
01:06:14
Let me hear you.
01:06:15
Why You believe they should be gift wrapped it back to back instead of having toe go up against teams like Seattle or Green Bay or Pittsburgh.
01:06:22
I mean, it's not that they're not gonna have to go up against teams like that because they had to go up against teams like that last year.
01:06:27
I mean, like like you mentioned, this is a leak with 32 teams, like, obviously, you're gonna have toe work for it.
01:06:32
But you're talking like they didn't just win it and have the recipe, and then go and take that team and going improve that team.
01:06:40
So this is how sports works when you're the Yeah, yeah, a lot.
01:06:45
If you're the defending champion, you're the team to be your the expected champion for the next year, barring someone else taking your crown and I am not a Chiefs fan at all.
01:06:54
Nor do I give a **** about the chief, So it's not like I am biased whatsoever.
01:06:58
I think Pat Mahomes is probably the greatest quarterback will ever watch, and it's way too early to say that.
01:07:02
But you know, just watching him and what he's done in his first three years is, uh, I can't even comprehend it with my mind.
01:07:09
But you have him who is the greatest talent in most unique talent that I've seen in a very, very long time on the football field and really a lot of sports in general, like Pat Mahomes is just He's doing things that you weren't sure quarterback can do, and it's really, really crazy.
01:07:25
And Andy Reid is one of the most established coaches in this league.
01:07:29
Obviously, we got so close, got so close, got so close until he finally got there and won it.
01:07:35
So I think the coaching is great.
01:07:36
Eric, the enemy is great.
01:07:38
I think they're receiving corps is so insane.
01:07:41
It's an Olympic track team, obviously, kind of Clyde Edward Teller is already a guy that can handle 20 to 25 carries a game, get you over a buck on the ground and be effective in the passing game, and then you go on ad.
01:07:53
Levian Bell, who even at if he's half of what he was in Pittsburgh, you just add, Who was the other guy behind him.
01:08:00
Like he got Darwin Thompson taking snaps sometimes, like you got DeAndre.
01:08:04
Y Yeah, you got DeAndre Washington, right? Isn't he still on the squad? They brought him back up after they Yeah, I think he's still there like you have no threat to that backfield after, you know, Williams opted out for co vid.
01:08:18
So now it's not just a option behind Clyde Ritter's Hilaire.
01:08:22
Like you mentioned Matt, it's potentially the best running back duo in the league besides Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt right now, because there's not a lot of teams that can consider both of their running backs, starting caliber running backs and the Chiefs.
01:08:39
The rich get richer, the defense got better, the defense is better, and Spagnola has a great way with this team Now.
01:08:46
They're no longer the the crap on that side, and when they won that championship, that defense was the reason why they almost didn't win that championship.
01:08:53
Now it's actually the opposite.
01:08:55
Sometimes this defense is actually sometimes carrying the load.
01:08:59
And at the very least, if not, because then you see what happened with the Raiders game.
01:09:03
Obviously, this defense is there.
01:09:04
Not a perfect defense whatsoever, but they can hold it down more than they could last year. Absolutely.
01:09:10
And you know, like I said that the defending champions, they already have the recipe.
01:09:14
You just got better your You have another year under the belt together as a unit.
01:09:19
I don't know how you give someone else the nod.
01:09:23
You know, I think there'll be people that challenge them.
01:09:26
That's That's sports.
01:09:27
Of course, the Heat challenge the Lakers this year.
01:09:29
You know, it's just how that rolls.
01:09:30
But at the in the end, it's just It'll be a fluke if they don't win the Super Bowl.
01:09:36
Yeah, it definitely it could be a fluke If they don't.
01:09:39
I wanna hear, hear the take for for Alex, Obviously die hard Steelers fan.
01:09:46
You watch *****l Bell grow into one of the best running backs and all the football at one point during its Korean Pittsburgh.
01:09:53
You obviously held out, signed a contract with the Jets, basically highway robbery with the New York Jets.
01:10:00
I mean, this man took $27 million and keep in mind you talk about getting money.
01:10:07
This is the key to success in the NFL, this man level.
01:10:10
Bell only played 17 games.
01:10:13
He got paid $27 million did not have a single game of over 100 yards rushing, and the biggest biggest run he ever had was 19 yards.
01:10:24
You talk about the mean, you talk about the mean.
01:10:28
Tell him to bring me my money that that man got his money that he wanted.
01:10:33
And now that now that he's in Kansas City, Alex, what does this mean for the Kansas City Chiefs? Are you more like Perry and say, gift? Wrap them a Lombardi? And if they don't win, it's a fluke.
01:10:45
Or are you? More of this helps Kansas City, but they still gotta.
01:10:50
They still got to compete against the undefeated Tennessee Titans.
01:10:52
They have Thio.
01:10:54
They have to play football games.
01:10:56
Matt, we understand that there has to be another team out there to play them.
01:10:59
We know that it's not gonna be then walking to the championship, but it's talent wise.
01:11:04
They're a team that even ****ing compares.
01:11:07
Yeah, you know, before the season, I wrote an article about how the Chiefs are going to be the gatekeepers of the A F C.
01:11:15
Kind of like the way the Patriots like.
01:11:17
Look, that doesn't mean that they're gonna go to the Super Bowl every year.
01:11:19
It just means they're gonna be perennial Super Bowl contenders every year, year and year out.
01:11:24
And, you know, like Perry talked about this defense has improved its not just, you know, relying on the offense to just outscored the other team.
01:11:32
You know, they're they're out like there e mean McColl hardman, who I think is a very great young, uh, receiving that offense.
01:11:38
I mean, that whole entire offense could probably run, outrun, outrun all of us combined like it's insane, I think.
01:11:46
Adding levian belt of this now, I think this is gonna be one of those situations, like almost like what happened with Randy Moss when he was on the Raiders and everybody was like, Oh, he's washed.
01:11:55
He's nothing.
01:11:56
You know? Levian went to the Jets and they didn't use them very well.
01:12:00
He had one target last week.
01:12:02
One of the biggest compliments that you know, Levian had to our offense when he was on Pittsburgh was he could run in the slot.
01:12:10
He could run routes out of the backfield.
01:12:12
So he adds another dimension toe.
01:12:15
A head coach who loves having those multidimensional running backs.
01:12:19
He loved Clyde Edwards lair for his ability, toe run and catch passed out of the backfield.
01:12:24
Now he has another running back who can also do that.
01:12:27
The rich get richer.
01:12:28
I mean, I'm not give wrapping that that that's horrible to them.
01:12:31
But like I said, they are the gatekeeper of the A F C.
01:12:34
Until they prove me that they're not.
01:12:37
But everything is there, like like to say like Like I said that that doesn't mean like, I don't think the Cowboys, the Packers, every other team in the league is just like up.
01:12:45
Send it in.
01:12:46
There's no point like it's just they're going to be perennial team for the next decade.
01:12:51
But yeah, I think Levian Bell is going to make this team that much better, and if anything, it will help Clyde Edwards Earlier in his development too.
01:12:59
You think I'll help it develop? Yeah.
01:13:03
Yeah.
01:13:04
I really think that I was alot will come out with a mix tape next week.
01:13:06
De Definitely good points there.
01:13:09
Let's close out livable with Caleb side of the things.
01:13:14
How do you believe Levian Bell will impact the Kansas City Chiefs? Caleb, do you believe he will make them? As we all know, the team to beat in the A F.
01:13:23
C um, you know, to go off what they said already, it all depends how they use them this week.
01:13:34
I think, obviously, is not gonna come right out the gate being mad, effective? We could expect that.
01:13:41
Um, on paper, they do have a talented team.
01:13:43
But, I mean, any given Sunday in the playoffs, somebody could stop him.
01:13:48
And I don't see lady on Bill being used as like a bell Kyle running back.
01:13:54
Or what do they call it? Bella horse.
01:13:55
Whatever the **** You know what? I'm trying t o Kyle running back.
01:13:59
I don't think he's gonna be that they have you, layer.
01:14:02
They like to throw the ball.
01:14:03
He's probably gonna be a ground and pound.
01:14:05
Give it to him at the goal line.
01:14:06
Try to stick some **** in 3rd and 1/4 and one type guy.
01:14:10
So I don't know if if if he's gonna be, like, mad, effective for them.
01:14:16
But he is going to be another decoy out in the fields that could help them, you know, advanced and And when a couple of games.
01:14:23
And he's gonna be used in certain situations for sure.
01:14:26
Um, but you know, Alex and Perry headed on itself, Brother, they're gonna be around for a very, very, very long time.
01:14:36
Yeah, my Holmes's on what, a 10 year contract? Yeah, 500 something million, by the way.
01:14:43
He bought ****ing baseball team with that ****.
01:14:46
So he's only, like, half a ****ing, and he just proposed to his girlfriend to, like, think he's got a got a Super Bowl ring.
01:14:53
Just put a ring on his girl like BP living right? Legend e I.
01:15:01
It's so early to say that they'll jump you for saying that, but like, I completely agree.
01:15:07
I'm watching this guy and I do not like I said, I do not have one bit of fandom for the Chiefs.
01:15:13
I don't care.
01:15:14
I don't have any bias and I'm watching him, like with stars in my eyes, like Wow, like, Did he just do that? He can't do that and like there's been, like, maybe like one or two times.
01:15:24
I'm like, You know, I've had a player that every time I watch I'm just like I don't know.
01:15:29
I don't even get this dude like how you know And he's one of those guys e It could be like I said, You said you said it.
01:15:36
It could be too early.
01:15:37
We owe as far as his talent like Dude is like the most talented.
01:15:46
Like he could throw the ball while running like, I mean, like, athleticism wise Lamar Jackson.
01:15:53
You could easily put him like he's like, easily the most athletic quarterback, but he cannot ****ing throw the ball like mom.
01:15:59
Oh, for sure, I'm not even throwing quarterbacks.
01:16:03
That air, specifically focusing on throwing, can throw like my homes.
01:16:07
Like it za absurd e will devastate Patrick Mahomes definitely does remind me of a little bit of vintage Aaron Rodgers like things that I see the things that I see out of Pat Mahomes.
01:16:18
It is exactly what Aaron Rodgers used to dio e identical.
01:16:28
Rogers is amazing talent.
01:16:32
Absolutely by e passes.
01:16:35
I can't say I can't say that they're similar guys.
01:16:39
I think they got similar talents.
01:16:42
They could both scramble and throw it anywhere on a dime.
01:16:45
And if you need a deep ball, that point Rogers could still swinging.
01:16:49
He may be e one better one of the better quarterbacks of all time.
01:16:53
For sure, I'm not here.
01:16:55
And here, I think, is what I gotta put down to.
01:16:57
Rogers knows so much more about the game than Mahomes has my home.
01:17:02
It's like it's like, Yeah, it's like a but does.
01:17:08
Rogers knows.
01:17:09
Does Rodgers know when it's fourth down, though He **** right he does.
01:17:13
That's right.
01:17:14
And they both have that State farm double check.
01:17:17
So you know they're both in that bag.
01:17:19
Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
01:17:21
And I E.
01:17:23
Rogers Air Great Rodgers.
01:17:25
Absolutely great.
01:17:26
But like I, I still can't like when I watch them.
01:17:28
It's still not like you're watching it being like, Have you seen an athlete like this before? Like bro like hold on, like come over here and watch this play like again.
01:17:36
I'm saying, Like in my years of watching sports like, I really don't think I've watched the talent that's blown my mind the way that, um, Pat Mahomes does, because with LeBron like, you know, you look at so many things and Wayne Gretzky and the greatest of all time and MJ all these things.
01:17:51
But like when you talk about uniqueness, you know you're looking at things that you haven't seen before.
01:17:57
Um, it's not doing it's not.
01:17:59
It's not doing things that people haven't done before and accomplishing things but having the robs, just ability to do things that I don't think another human's been able to do on a football field before.
01:18:09
And it's not Roger.
01:18:10
It's not Rodgers fault that he's he's made the most of every genetic that he has in his body, and he's pulled everything out.
01:18:16
But I think Pat Mahomes is just like, gifted from the gods.
01:18:20
You know, I would agree with you.
01:18:23
I would agree with you.
01:18:24
My only thing is from I Q standpoint.
01:18:26
Like LeBron you ****ing talented.
01:18:30
But if you ****ing watch Kobe, I mean the things he knows I Q is like, okay, he's ****ing toying with defense. He knows.
01:18:38
Yeah, no, for sure.
01:18:39
I e the whole time.
01:18:42
I think I q e could be used so many ways.
01:18:45
E could be used in so many ways because I feel like you know, you can have before the snap I Q.
01:18:51
You know, live I Q Like there's so many ways that, like you can use that football smarts and sports smarts like if you're better pre snap and pre, you know, and sometimes you're better post adjustment and stuff like I agree.
01:19:03
I feel like it's it's so many different ways to showcase your I. Q.
01:19:07
With that being said, you know LeBron like, you know, over Kobe.
01:19:11
You know, obviously, I grew up with Kobe.
01:19:13
It's just like, you know, LeBron leading the league in assists and changing his game, and then, you know, things like that.
01:19:18
It's the level of i Q and ways to adapt that LeBron has shown.
01:19:23
And the level of Ike, Um, there's really not a lot of people in this world that have that level.
01:19:28
And Kobe, I think, is the most the fiercest competitors to ever play a sport.
01:19:32
I think he has that mama mentality that no one ever has had before, truly, and it has expressed it and taught it to people.
01:19:39
But when you're just strictly talking, I Q.
01:19:41
It's really not even close to LeBron's to be 100% honest with the brother and and with Aaron Rodgers. Absolutely.
01:19:47
He's up there with Brees.
01:19:49
He's up there with, um, you know, Brady for I Q out of this world.
01:19:53
But, you know, I also said that comes with experience, for sure.
01:19:56
You know, I think Pat Mahomes when we're talking about him, year 10 he's gonna be this, you know, he's gonna be Yoda, you know, coming out of this contract, it is gonna be crazy.
01:20:05
Yeah, and it's not even like he exposes himself too much toe where it's like his career is at risk.
01:20:12
Like he's not getting hit too much more than any normal quarterback.
01:20:16
You know, the only one that you could even say that would probably be like Lamar Jackson right now, you know.
01:20:20
Yeah, But with this football ****, I think you know any hit could be ****ing up e right here, going back about Kobe that I really think he's a so far as I know he's definitely is one one of the greatest, for sure, Absolutely.
01:20:37
Because LeBron had to learn it from somewhere.
01:20:40
You know what I'm saying? Sure.
01:20:41
I mean, I think everyone learns, learns it from somewhere.
01:20:43
You know, Everyone had someone before then that they pass it to, and then it Z The whole goal is for the student Thio Surpass the teacher at some point, you know, that's the whole goal.
01:20:52
You want Thio, pass along your knowledge and your skill, and then have them take what you've done and build off it, you know? So I think it's again.
01:20:59
I think it's just a different way of breaking down the game nowadays.
01:21:02
Advances in technology.
01:21:03
You know things along those lines that help players see the game differently.
01:21:07
And, you know, I I agree with you, though.
01:21:08
Kobe's gotta have one of the highest accused of all time, and he's the fiercest competitors.
01:21:12
But seeing LeBron James lead the league in assists at Year 17 when he wasn't even notoriously a pastor before, like you know, he's always been a no e, I wouldn't say pass first guy always, but he's e e.
01:21:26
I think he can dissect I think I got a guy that doesn't get, like, a lot of credit.
01:21:31
You know, I got like Ben Simmons or something. You know, the I Q.
01:21:33
The same way.
01:21:34
We're getting off topic, of course, but yeah, I Q.
01:21:36
For for sports guys could be shown in so many ways as well.
01:21:39
And dissecting the game is just so interesting to see how they go about it.
01:21:42
But yeah, again, Pat Mahomes, I think.
01:21:44
I mean, what is it? You're three or four like We'll talk.
01:21:47
We'll talk when he's at year 10 and it's just gonna be, like, incomprehensible right now.
01:21:52
You know what I mean? Yeah, it definitely is.
01:21:55
Add let's close out.
01:21:56
Tonight's episode re capping Week five of the NFL.
01:22:01
So I'll go.
01:22:02
I'll go to you, Caleb.
01:22:04
What were your thoughts overall about week five? What kind of stood out to you the most, uh, some teams getting blown out that you wouldn't expect to get blown out Like what the **** happened in San Francisco? Uh, I did not expect that to happen in this Miami, but that seems guy game really blew me away.
01:22:26
Um, but it was a good performance by Miami.
01:22:29
I think ultimately that's what kind of Lord felt t think about going.
01:22:35
There would have been it would have been good to see him with the young pieces and then get out.
01:22:41
E would have been cool.
01:22:43
Yeah, that definitely would have been done to see another game.
01:22:45
That was impressive.
01:22:46
Justin Herbert, man the charges.
01:22:48
Although they lose that game, Herbert played phenomena.
01:22:53
The pagans drew Brees again when the smartest quarterback who leads his team back that game.
01:22:58
But Herbert Herbert played totally phenomenon that game.
01:23:02
So, uh, he certified himself.
01:23:05
Those were the two games and five that really stood out to me.
01:23:10
Mhm.
01:23:11
Definitely good points.
01:23:12
There I'll go.
01:23:13
I'll go to you, Perry.
01:23:14
What? We're kind of your thoughts on, Ah, Week five.
01:23:17
What kind of stood out stood out to you the most sure.
01:23:20
I mean, obviously, Dad, going down, you know, really sucked and seeing Andy Dalton come in when that game is good to see the Panthers.
01:23:27
I think they have so much to feel good about.
01:23:29
It's the team that I didn't have a lot of expectations for, and then we CMC going down and then playing the way they are.
01:23:33
Although they beat the Falcons, it's not like the greatest thing in the world.
01:23:36
They are three and two, you know.
01:23:37
And CMC has been out for a bit now, so it's definitely really great to see with the brand new coaching stuff.
01:23:42
That's exactly what you said, Matt.
01:23:43
With college coaches, you know, they got Matt Rule, defensive minded coach from Baylor.
01:23:47
They brought in Joe Brady, who just won that championship with Joe Burrow and L s u last year.
01:23:52
So you're bringing two of the younger, more progressive minded coaches that are willing to take risks and, um, learn on the job.
01:24:00
And it's just insane to see the kind of things that they're experimenting with.
01:24:04
And I'm a fan of the Panthers because of that coaching staff, because I'm excited for this team for the and you know, they have Owen and Josh be Panthers fans.
01:24:12
It's fun, you know, celebrate with them and show them love and stuff.
01:24:15
But it really it's one of those teams that, like I would I would tune into that side by side of Cowboys game.
01:24:20
Just, uh, really get a feel for how that games going I truly enjoy that team.
01:24:25
The Raiders.
01:24:26
You know, beating the Chiefs.
01:24:27
That was cool. Obviously.
01:24:28
Shout out to the Raiders.
01:24:29
Derek Carr is in that M V p discussion right now.
01:24:31
Obviously, it's it's really, like, weird to say that, but you saw the numbers that Corey sent in the group.
01:24:36
If you look up Derek cars numbers this year, they're very impressive, extremely impressive.
01:24:41
And he deserves that respect, which obviously doesn't get very often.
01:24:45
So, you know, the Raiders were looking good, shout out to them and lastly, you know, **** the bills.
01:24:50
You know, I'm a biased guy.
01:24:52
Um, but, you know, I'm glad to see them go down, and everyone, including Alex, was like, Oh, yeah, Tennessee.
01:24:58
You know, they've been out for two weeks, and, you know, I was looking at it more like you're acting like this is the first week of the season.
01:25:05
You know, they're three, and, oh, they've won three games together as a team, and, you know, a bye week is a week off.
01:25:10
Obviously, you're still at the practice facility doing certain things, but, you know, half the time you're watching tape and half the time you're doing meetings and stuff like that that you could do virtually and then it's really just keeping yourself in shape.
01:25:21
But it's not like you have to learn the playbook together.
01:25:23
It's not like you're stepping on the field for the first time.
01:25:26
Your 30 like you, you have played three times together as a team, and Mike Vrabel is a hell of a coach.
01:25:31
First off, so he goes out there, motivates his guys.
01:25:34
And not just that.
01:25:35
This makes Josh Allen look like the Josh Allen of old, you know, putting up acceptable numbers.
01:25:40
But still, you know, making those mistakes that you expect and putting them in a spot where they have to lean on that run game, which isn't very impressive.
01:25:49
You know, you got yelled in Who had the lead of that game with 52 yards teaching t y yelled in and, uh, TJ Yeldon.
01:25:56
Sorry.
01:25:57
Um, but I think Levian Bell would have been a really good signing for the Bills that would have taken them to that next level where you would have put them in contention, because then their defense is is stellar.
01:26:06
Obviously, their coaching would be great.
01:26:07
Josh Allen is having it was having an M. V. P year.
01:26:11
Definitely took himself out of that race so far.
01:26:13
Um, but yeah, if that running game solidify, this is a team I'd be looking at with a lot of big open eyes.
01:26:19
But with Singletary, Zach Moss and T.
01:26:22
J Yeldon along with Josh Allen with hopes and prayers, that's not a recipe toe.
01:26:27
Take that all the way, but I mean, the bill should be feeling good for the future, although **** him.
01:26:32
But the Titans should be feeling fabulous.
01:26:35
Absolutely fantastic.
01:26:37
Tannehill is awesome.
01:26:38
Derrick Henry is more awesome.
01:26:40
Rabel is a great coach.
01:26:42
Welcome back to the Lee A.
01:26:44
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01:26:45
Brown John who? Smith is even more awesome than everybody like the Titans are.
01:26:50
I love watching them because you don't expect them to be great.
01:26:53
But they win that hard nose, old school way.
01:26:57
You know, defense.
01:26:58
Run the ball, talk **** and it's you love to see it.
01:27:02
You love to see it.
01:27:03
Those were my highlights, but I think titans would be my team of the week.
01:27:07
Definitely love to see it, and I'll close with you.
01:27:10
Alex, What was your main take away for a week. Five.
01:27:14
Yeah.
01:27:15
I mean, for a week five.
01:27:16
I mean, Russell Wilson.
01:27:17
You know, we've all championed his M v P campaign.
01:27:20
I mean, he brought this team from the brink of getting their first loss.
01:27:24
Hey, just continues.
01:27:25
Thio Just I mean, they were in their in their what? Their 10 on that on that final drive, it didn't look good.
01:27:35
He's on unbuckling rail.
01:27:37
Yeah, No, just just his.
01:27:39
His ability to just make things happen.
01:27:41
He's a wizard out there.
01:27:42
That, to me just also puts me in a position because I in my predictions I had the Chiefs and Seahawks in the Super Bowl.
01:27:49
And it seems a little feasible now.
01:27:51
You know, obviously like to change from there, but I do like the way the Chiefs have been playing.
01:27:55
Uh, I like I like I like that matchup Chiefs and CFox. That would be cool.
01:28:00
Yeah, that would definitely be a fun matchup.
01:28:02
And then with the Titans, I do wanna highlight Tannehill.
01:28:05
He's not going to be someone that's gonna just throw all over the yard, but he just put the ball.
01:28:10
So his ball placement, how ah, 100% and you know what? Like that was a lot of storyline early on in preseason Is always Tannehill really gonna be this guy? Or was it just like that's, you know, late season fluke.
01:28:24
Kind of like what people attribute Nick Foles with and Kenyan Drake with.
01:28:28
So, uh, he's been phenomenal.
01:28:30
He's had one turnover in his four first four games.
01:28:33
I mean, he's definitely a huge component of making sure this team is in a place to be successful and then real quick.
01:28:39
Lastly, shout out to the Bears.
01:28:41
The weirdest four in one team ever.
01:28:43
They basically they had Tom Brady so dazed he thought it was fourth down and it was turnover on downs, which is now a new mean that we all see all over Twitter.
01:28:53
Um, but you and Tristan words getting thrown, they Tristen work.
01:28:58
They got embarrassed.
01:29:01
Where's the Norman are gonna be edited everywhere for the next couple.
01:29:03
Worse And Norman, in the say it was not the same week.
01:29:06
I cannot believe that That's the same week, technically, because Tuesday, Tuesday, felt felt like it wasn't the same week.
01:29:13
It's weird because in that last Tuesday count is like, um, do you think The first week five my bookie counted.
01:29:22
It is Week six, But in the office this week five.
01:29:27
Yeah, but yeah.
01:29:30
Sorry.
01:29:31
Sorry about that.
01:29:32
Then I'll close it out with with my wee wee five takes.
01:29:34
Overall, can you believe that in 2020 The browser.
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Four in one.
01:29:40
The Browns heir.
01:29:41
Ford one and the Patriots or two.
01:29:42
And to let that sink in for a moment.
01:29:46
Cleveland Browns, basically the New York Knicks of the NFL or Forward one and are competing in the A F C North with the Baltimore Ravens.
01:29:58
E feel so bad for that.
01:30:02
That division is so tough.
01:30:04
Like if they were in the NFC, you can you can wrap it right now.
01:30:09
You can give them that.
01:30:10
If they were in the Cowboys, Eagles and Redskins Giants division, you can give them the division title right this second.
01:30:17
And that is so sad that I don't even know if they make the playoffs.
01:30:21
Because the fact that the Steelers and the Ravens were so good, I I said it on the NFL in rapture.
01:30:26
I think you'll be one of those times.
01:30:27
Put that terrible towel away.
01:30:28
Oh, my God, I It's terrible.
01:30:31
I think it'll be one of the first times that you'll see three playoff teams out of the same division.
01:30:38
Um, you know, as both wild card spots and the division winner, I think that's very realistic.
01:30:44
Yeah, it definitely is realistic.
01:30:45
And I loved how my Green Bay Packers had a bye week and we moved up to number one in the power rankings.
01:30:51
I am definitely going to savor that moment.
01:30:54
We got a big game coming up against Tampa Bay.
01:30:56
Caleb Skinner.
01:30:57
I want all the smoke I want.
01:30:58
Unwrap these bands on Sunday.
01:31:00
I want a love the smack all smack top I'm all for and I'll even take it to you know, if it's gonna be very scary, because I think Tom Brady is gonna come back with a vengeance.
01:31:12
Yeah, I know.
01:31:15
We made our picks on the NFL in rap show.
01:31:17
Were you on the bucks to Alex? No, I was on the You're on the packers.
01:31:21
He was on packers. I was on bucks.
01:31:23
So there is that.
01:31:25
You can't You can't.
01:31:26
You can't. You can't go wrong with that either.
01:31:28
I wouldn't be surprised if e think Brady comes.
01:31:31
I think Brady comes back with a vengeance.
01:31:32
And and the Packers, The Packers are undefeated.
01:31:34
They should be feeling great.
01:31:36
I am definitely gonna feel great.
01:31:38
I really wish that was the Sunday night game.
01:31:41
I mean, obviously it's gonna be America's game of the week.
01:31:43
We'll probably get Troy Aikman and Joe Buck on on America's game of the week, which, in my opinion, a lot of people would much rather prefer Packers bucks on a Sunday night rather than the sorry ass Niners.
01:31:54
And you don't wanna watch the Super Bowl hangover.
01:31:57
40 Niners on Sunday night.
01:31:58
E watch a transition in the game to Nick Morgan and then transition the game. E.
01:32:05
I am so mad at Jim Jimmy Garoppolo.
01:32:07
I had Jimmy Garoppolo on my fantasy team, and he didn't even get me 0.
01:32:10
10 point.
01:32:11
He got me 0.
01:32:12
8 I am upset.
01:32:16
I was so upset with Garoppolo, I dropped Garoppolo and took the red rifle.
01:32:20
That's that's that's your fault for picking Garoppolo as your fans.
01:32:24
You were going up to get some e thought that was a good decision.
01:32:28
Yeah, Z I who knows what's gonna happen with the 49.
01:32:34
I mean, they're really injury riddled, but I just don't think Rapallo is the answer.
01:32:37
But, I mean, he's starting again this week, so we'll see what he does.
01:32:40
We'll see if they bounce, because if he doesn't bounce back, I don't know if he's gonna keep on to that job with our what? Our baby.
01:32:47
What are Molins stunk? Mullins? Uh, but But both are came in and wasn't all that great, either.
01:32:58
I mean, hey, right, right, Magic happen.
01:33:02
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01:33:03
Magic Magic man.
01:33:05
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01:33:06
No, I love him.
01:33:07
I really don't think two is gonna play a snap this season unless it's like here's a little sneak.
01:33:11
Here's a sneak preview in a 55 to 4 blowout game in Week 16.
01:33:15
You know we'll show you like one drive, but that's what weight do The Dolphins play the cowboy I honestly like.
01:33:24
It's probably that's probably an El with its on the table.
01:33:27
That's probably an L.
01:33:28
Yeah, when he's on is different.
01:33:31
I love him and he's alive.
01:33:33
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