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Welcome, everybody to basketball and more.
Which is a SportsCastr featured broadcast.
This is, of course, your host, Matt Brooks.
I am joined by Alex Regular champion champion Alex Regular.
How are you doing today, sir? It feels great.
How are you? I'm good as well.
I'm excited for you've had a very big week.
Both both personally and just as a sports fan, a Lakers fan and somebody who has been entwined with this team for four years.
So congrats to you.
Right off the bat.
Yeah. Thank you.
Crazy timing in terms of the engagement.
And then, you know, the Lakers winning this championship.
And I'm also a Dodgers fan, so that's stressful.
Tell e feel for you there.
I'm looking so well before we get into this.
I was telling you a little bit before we went on.
I'm a Timberwolves fan.
I'm also an Orioles fan, which is just a so I don't follow baseball anymore. So that's cool.
Yeah, I'm a really I'm a real winner with a lot of this.
So that's that's for my friend.
Um, let's start out with this Lakers championship.
Where does this rank for you in terms off ones that mean the most that you're most excited about? Because I'm curious about the sentimental aspects of this.
Yeah, I've been thinking about it since they want, and I think it might be my favorite. Honestly.
And I think that's I wasn't old enough to go through the Showtime era.
Um, I lived through all the Kobe stuff, So basically the three peat and then with power and buying them and all that.
So I loved all those, but yeah, something about this year, I think, just because of how much they went through and also just the length weekend with this longer than any other team.
So there's obviously attachment you grow with, uh, with just that, just watching this team and covering them and everything.
So, yeah, it's got to be my favorite.
Honestly, I think it's gonna be the one I remember the most S O.
I think this is like my personal favorite, um, Lakers team just because of I don't know it za really fun team.
That's like team with defensive integrity.
They look like the them being the underdog has become such like a mean at this point, like you guys have leaned into so much.
But I mean, look, as somebody who had really zero belief in in what they could be, and I didn't love their moves last summer, it'll be the first person to tell you that, like I, I love how wrong I was like, This is great like and they're they're fun.
This last couple of years, it's been this small ball revolution, and now we have this giant team come in and just completely catch everybody off guard.
I think it's refreshing.
Personally, Yeah, I think you right there.
What? You said that last part with so many people trying to kind of just be the Warriors 2.
0 or just kind of be this new small ball team or ****ytical team or something.
The Lakers kind of took a different approach and they just went totally Godzilla, you know, just they have all these different centers and all these different, um, in general, like when the Lakers went small and started Caruso in that last game.
That's not a small starting, better on and a D.
It's not even fair like S.
I think you're right, and this is how hard working they are on defense.
Like you said, those championship teams with Kobe and Shaq, they're good defensively.
But that wasn't their bread and butter.
It was how dominant they were.
But this team, like you said, is their defense has been their calling card, and I like the stories about how they came in Day one, and they just they understood it like it was just this.
And I mean, you have to give credit to their stars.
But also Vogel, like they all just came together on the same page and said, Hey, your defensive minded coach, Anthony Davis is.
I mean, I think the best player in the league defensively and in the mix for one of the best three players in the league right now.
And they just said Let's try to make this work and LeBron, I mean, he committed to that from the beginning.
It's it's cool, it's it's fun and it's like, you know, you compare this team toe like those calves teams.
This is just a much more enjoyable team.
And I say that if somebody who was tortured by the Lakers a za kids eso I that that means something.
Yeah, just watching those LeBron teams with Miami and in Cleveland from afar.
It didn't seem like they got along like I obviously doing.
Ron got along that that's well known, but those calf seems in particular.
It just seems like they're very cold and just put together to win that thing.
They want they seem to like each other and have this bond.
They don't think anyone expected.
Well, nobody got cropped out of photos or anything like that.
Nobody help nobody.
Got Kevin loved on this team, so that's a good That's a good thing.
Um, how did it feel this this experience like, Did it mean mawr because it was in the bubble? Was it weird it all watching the celebration? You know what? I actually didn't see that much of difference.
Obviously, we couldn't go out and celebrate.
Although some fans that they did Unfortunately, um, yeah, I kind of just totally forgot.
There weren't fans there.
It just seemed kind of normal to me.
It's gonna be different.
Obviously, we've been cool to see Staples Center react for, like, a D s game winner about Fantastic to see Yeah, celebration.
But you know what? The end of day it's we have, we have that trophy.
I think that's what we're gonna remember.
Yep, during the celebrations, was it Did it feel the exact same like when they were doing it? That I mean, it was a little weird when it was just kind of that empty little gym there.
It seemed like, but yeah, you know, at the end of day, I'm not gonna really remember that part.
I don't think, of course.
I mean, like, even for me, Like I'm just saying I don't have a ton of connection to I like LeBron.
But, um, even for me, just like seeing the elation and just like the relief, I think that was the other thing, like, you could sense that it was just like, not only they've won this really tough championship and there's, you know, they come into the bubble and they basically haven't really played in in months, and they have to sort of remember how to do that again.
but there's also home now, Like, this is great.
So that part was kind of, like, made up for, I think, some of the other stuff not necessarily having fans there or anything like that.
That's true, too.
I just feel for those guys, like, now I'm sure they're all just relieved.
Sleep in their bed? Yeah, yeah, you know, painfully.
They got to see some of their kids.
The later they got into the playoffs, they were able to come into the bubble and stuff like that.
But like you said, just going back to their normal lives like they've been in this weird Biodome.
Think for a while now.
So you gotta feel for those guys.
Yeah. No, definitely.
And I mean that z exciting.
I think the next steps for the Lakers.
And that's kind of what I wanted to bring you on to talk about today is that not only are they on the top of the world just in terms of their probably the most attractive team, if you're, uh, you know, like a guy that's looking just toe, maybe take E.
I mean, this isn't the summer to get paid anyways, or winter, whatever it It's never gonna get used to that, Um, but not only is it not the winter to get paid, but it's also a time when you have to look around the landscape, especially if you're an older player and be like, Yeah, so this is definitely in the year when I could just latch onto a championship contender and I think the Lakers are.
I mean, they're my favorite by a considerable margin just because the field there's so much in the air.
The Bucks, I don't know what they're gonna do.
They might, you know, make a big splurge and big trade Thio Try to entice you Honest.
The Clippers are, I think, in full panic mode, and then the other teams.
It's like it's all question marks.
So I don't know how you feel about that or if you agree, but it seems like you guys have the leg up by a considerable margin.
I mean, in terms of like those ring chasers, you would have to believe so right and it's L.
A like you and then also like you were saying they play a style of basketball that teams fun to play with, You know, like look, if you have a guy like LeBron, he's not.
He's famously known for not being that balls on it.
And I killed Dribble saying that Danny Green shot.
He trust his teammates.
And you have Anthony Davis, who just plays defense, and it's just a monster.
Yeah, and you have all these perfect role players who all seem happy in the rules.
They have great coaching staff.
The front office, for the first time in years, hasn't been like back stabbing or just been no headlines.
So, like all that bad stuff that came with being a Laker, that those last few years like that seems to be gone like this seems like the ideal place to be If you're a guy on the older side of his career and just wants to chase the ring and just take a smaller deal, right, like, look at Markieff Morris like that.
That's a guy that I don't think anybody thought anything was gonna come from Markieff Morris.
And he's this, like, you know, he is 19 in the finals game, like, that's amazing.
So, um yeah, and they also on the big thing for them is that they have this the full scale Emily, which is who knows what that's gonna be, but it maybe around 9.
5 to 10 depending upon what happens.
But, like, Look, I cover the nets here in Brooklyn, and they have the, you know, the media, Mellie.
They're working with half that.
So that's a huge advantage to um So I I there's certain guys that I have underlined for for the Lakers to possibly Look at what? I'm curious to see if you have anybody in mind, right? You know what? Yeah.
You know what I it's been I haven't really thought about too much.
Of course I there I looked at the list of guys all year.
Like, Okay, who's gonna be available? We've had so much time so much, I think I have more of, like, an archetype of a player.
I mean, like, well named let's do that like players.
What would you want for this team next year? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I thought I thought you brought up Markieff Morris, and I think his position that kind of stretch like a floor space circling the front court guard the 453 Obviously, that's attractive across the league, Sure, but someone like that.
So I was like, maybe like a Millsap Ibaka type would be cool.
They also have the fit next a d.
You just need that versatile front court guy.
They didn't have that until market really showed up.
And we saw how important that was just because, Like, look at that, Houston.
Siri's eventually just stopped playing their centers.
Yeah, just Marquis from a D.
And that was it.
Like you need someone to kind of slot in.
Besides that, like they always need shooting.
Obviously, the shooting improve.
So those two those areas and also I mean, ball handling point guard would obviously be also helpful.
Okay, um, I have names.
I would love to hear him.
Eso Gallo was the one that I was looking this week.
Like, if you guys get Gallo, I don't even think that's like I don't know what what to do.
Like there's your third scorer every single night.
Um, he's interesting because he's the first guy to come out Well, other than like in Oladipo, who kind of has been grumbling for a couple of weeks, but he was the first guy that's like a free agent to be like Hey like, And I guarantee you, it's just that he looks at the market and it's like, Okay, there's the Heat and then it's like the hall.
So he's like, I would rather try to win a championship and then then get my money.
Well, the thing about the Lakers is that sure.
Maybe he in a normal market, he'd be looking at 20 ish, you know, $20 million or in that ballpark.
But with the way this market is, if you're getting 10 a year, like even if you do a one year deal, that's that's a pretty solid placeholder.
So he's the one I'm looking at right now, and I don't know how you feel about that.
But I love Gallo.
I am Big gala fan as well, and obviously, like you said, he slots right into that third score that they've been looking big, too, which is nice.
Yeah, and that that fits the ethos right? Like that fits what this team wants to be.
They wanna be big physical, and he's a big physical weighing out there.
He's not the greatest defender, but in terms of guy who could get his own shot, he could space the floor also, like that's a spot up guy now next to LeBron and 80 he checks a lot of boxes.
I just didn't assume he would take that much of a pay cut.
But, like you said, he's already come out and said, I want to play for away.
Here's our winner So that would That would get a lot of executives Matt around the league for sure you would make me mad.
Somebody who wants a competitive playoffs next year.
Um, there's a couple of guys that air they're looking at.
They have player options this year.
Anthony Davis, I think, is going to look for a new contract.
I'd assume that he's going to return unless you have something that that's that you think otherwise is going to assume that he won't.
I think that'd be silly. Not to.
Bradley is interesting.
And then there's also Rondo, I think, and kcp so.
Those three, which which three do you think and McGee as well.
Um, like if I had to guess which ones are back which ones are back of those four? Uh, wow.
Um, so I think I think McGee is back.
I just don't know if the market is I mean, he was a starting center all year who outplays.
He's outplayed his contract last two seasons with.
That's about it, and he's a starting center for a team that was first place, like, obviously, he's not going to get the spotlight is running a D, but he's serviceable.
That's a guy who I think really helped keep a D fresh all season.
And, um, I think he might be back.
I just I think he likes this group of guys.
I think he likes L. A.
Um I Bradley is the kind of the tricky one for me.
That's the one I can keep going back, back and forth with.
He obviously didn't join the team in the bubble, decided to stay with personal reasons and stuff like that, but it seems like everybody was on board with that.
There was no animosity or anything between that, And he again another guy who helped set the tone on defense all season again.
I just don't know in terms of like the money out there because I know we're gonna talk about the market.
I have no idea what still look like this offseason.
So if I take a guess like I think McGee Bradley Rondo Uh, forgetting, let's say Maggie O K c p k c p k e.
I don't think he would come back back.
Yeah, um, KCP is the one that I'm like, a little interested.
I don't know if he would test the market, but I don't think he's had, like, that good of a year where it's like he's gonna He's going to see what his value is like it.
It's also a weird market.
Like what? He wanna go another guy.
It's like, Why not just play with the Lakers? Make 8.
5 million versus, like, I don't know, like signed for maybe $2 million.
Maybe that had that feels like a slight, um, like, let's say one of those teams, like a Cavs team where just weird, like the Atlanta might be like we know like he can play defense.
You know, the backcourt.
That was a team that was like, maybe they make it running Casey.
People like you said, like the regular season he was up and down, but his shooting was pretty consistent after that tough, rough stretch in the beginning of the year and then the playoffs.
Just being who could guard multiple positions and hit threes is still valuable, so I don't know.
Yeah, he's curious.
Um, Bradley, I'm surprised that you're a little bit unsure of I.
I figured he would come back just because, like, he's, I wonder if he's gonna have, like, the unfinished business perspective, like, I'd be really curious to know, like if you gave him a little truth serum like Okay, what? What are you are you like? I mean, I'm sure he's happy with his decision to sit on the bubble, but, like, did you think that they were going to go a Sfar? A. They did.
And I don't know.
I think that part's really curious for May missed his defense is the thing.
Um, I would say, I don't know.
I would say maybe I think so.
But I think they made up for it in a lot of ways, like they the Caruso thing.
I mean, that's the nice part.
Is that they just gave Caruso a lot bigger of a role.
So that part, I think, really helped them a lot like he just He's a guy that just makes, like, really, really big plays for you, and it's stuff.
I know Bradley does that for you as well, but I do feel like he's a little bit different of a defender.
Bradley is a little more like point of attack, so So I do feel like that. Kind of almost.
I don't know if it helped them because it would help them to have Bradley.
But it was different.
Yeah, and I think that's why it's interesting.
I honestly, you know, from the Lakers side, it would be curious if this wasn't a player option.
This was like a team option.
I wonder which way they would go with Bradley Young.
How well Crusoe did in the playoffs.
Like, Hey, we got a guy who's making less money and show that he could do that the best you know, the highest stage.
But in terms of Bradley personally again, yeah, you're right.
Like maybe he wants to play one more year of the Lakers and get his market value a little higher before, hopefully the opposite.
You know the money comes back or whatever, but again, another guy, he has a role in the team.
He was a starting guard all season.
Yeah, uh, it's he's just a guy like I don't know what team outside of the, you know, like you said, Cleveland, Atlanta Did they really spend money on Avery Bradley? Have to be somebody and it would be like the difference of Like what? What? What's he, Bradley? Do you know how much Bradley is making around 5 5.
5? So he would just be getting the M l e like one of those tax Emily's for from someone else.
So I don't know if it would make sense, even for him to leave.
It's such a weird.
It is such a weird market because work.
I think a lot of people are looking at it like it's a normal traditional, like I think people understand that it's it's a I don't know like that there's differences this year, but for a guy like Bradley, it's like I just don't know, like what you got to a guess.
Like measure those things to a degree that he's probably gonna get the same money elsewhere.
He might as well stay on the team.
That is probably the repeat favorites right now.
Yeah, and I think that's probably the case for a lot of players with options this offseason, right? Like I'm sure agents are just telling him.
Like, you know what? We have secure money here.
If you like it here and stuff like that, it's just resigned.
Especially if you're on the Lakers.
You're gonna get more spotlight to show.
You know, um, I wouldn't be surprised if a few of those guys be named, like our potential trade targets now that they're on the second year.
Because I think a lot of them had built in, uh, trade clauses, right? Like they couldn't get trade or something that two years.
So those guys now become trade assets, possibly to other teams.
They're not attractive.
They're probably not that attractive, but they are moneywise. They could match.
They have money matching contracts now, so those guys could be potential trade pieces that they do.
Try thio like, make a package or someone for who? I don't know.
You know, like a guy like Danny green.
He's on the last year of his deal.
How much is Danny earn? I should know this, uh, between 15 and 18.
That's that's sizeable Money I didn't even think about you guys is like, activate the deadline, which is like, Well, there's like the Oladipo out there, right? Yeah, that's interesting.
That is interesting.
I think that give up that money for that books outside of LeBron and a D.
Because they just signed a bunch of people.
The two year deals and that was it.
Plans of making a move then.
It'll be interesting for sure.
Um, they're non guarantees.
I think we can Yeah.
Yeah, it's tough because this guy didn't play, but he is so loved on the team.
So it was doubly so He's gonna say Dudley is an interesting one for you guys.
That a former a guy, that it was a beloved player here in Brooklyn.
Um, he's interesting.
Him and I think Dwight are the ones and and Markieff is another, uh, free agent.
They have a lot of decisions to make it.
Like you said, all those guys were really important in different stretches and are different aspects, like Dudley Dudley and cooked it and play.
But you ask anyone who cover the team, anyone who is around the team, any of the players, they'll be the first one to kind of say how big of a role Dudley and Cook played this year and so much of their.
And what happens if you start slotting in different pieces to that and take it out the important parts.
I mean, he's like a minimum guy.
I think that's somebody who really need to try to bring back, Um, who would you keep between Mark Heath and Dwight? Oh man, um, you know, it's still weird because, like like we were saying earlier, there, so strange of a team that they were built around these centers in a era that's kind of built the opposite way.
We're just three point shooting and having like Dwight was so impactful this year off the bench.
But the same time a guy like Mark Keith came in and really just opened up the floor in the way that they didn't have all season.
He basically was the lady, play the five.
There's more driving lanes, he could guard different positions.
Like Dwight, Uh, there's a syriza Dwight thing in play.
There's a serious rebel Don't even play.
Um, so in terms of, like an overall impact, I think Dwight similar impactful player Keith gives them a different type of kind of calculus that Dwight doesn't.
So if I had a pick one, I would pick Dwight.
But even then, it's kind of that's assuming I don't know, because if she fell, resigns, whatever.
Okay, whatever they do, they do need to fill that marquee for Roll.
Like I was saying, they need a four who can do the things Marquis does.
It's not easy to find that, but that's something they need to look for in the off season.
So you think that's their big thing? Even more than like a playmaker.
I think the playmakers still probably priority just because we don't know how much we can trust Rondo in the regular season like we see in the playoffs.
I mean, obviously he changed, but he wasn't this player in the regular season.
Plus is a totally different guy on DCruz.
So for as much as we love him, he's not an awful on ball playmaker.
Bald guy, perfect for LeBron team, but not when he's off the floor.
You give him the ball and have him run 20 pick and rolls so I could end well, that was something they really missed because they try to get out of retirement.
Yes, just not sure that up.
So that's something.
They definitely definitely need addresses.
Well, is it just gonna be it? Do you feel like that? Somebody that you need to sort of mortar like set the table or more of like a scoring guard, like, is somebody I've seen? Goran Dragic, which is another one was freed up for the Mlle.
Right? That'd be another really good.
Yeah, again, A guy who could space the floor.
A guy who can create with the ball in his hands, a guy who could run 20 pick and rolls.
That's what they really need.
Especially when LeBron signed out there and even LeBron when LeBron is out there, he likes to play with Rondo because he just gives them a break.
Sometimes on offense, and he could kind of just stand on the corner and just cut off ball and stuff like, Yeah, Yeah, they need someone who could be dynamic on Paul.
So s so you could even do like, I don't know who you how How crazy You want to go and break up the Mlle.
Right? If you do like to chunks, yeah, yeah, you could guess you or somebody random like that.
Somebody that I also think like there's a chance that you guys will build Like the thing that I've seen A lot is like It seems like the Lakers may replace the centers, but I don't know if that's what I would do.
Like it if javale picks up his player option than for what Dwight brings And because realistically, like, yeah, you could go for, like, an Aaron Baynes and there's gonna be 25 maybe 25 20 teams chasing Aaron Baynes.
Um, I don't I just don't know.
Like if it doesn't really matter.
If you don't hit on that, you could just bring back Dwight because you have Anthony Davis at center waiting.
So I I don't know.
I'm kind of with you.
I think that if you bring in afford a or maybe a point guard, I also believe in Rondo a little bit more s Oh, I I think that in terms of, like, production wise, he kind of gives you everything you need.
Um, but I I could see if you want to go a different route. That be interesting, too.
Yeah, it's gonna be tough because LeBron is a huge Rondo fan like he wanted him on the Lakers.
So obviously his word is gonna hold a lot of weight when they decided the offseason what to do? Um, and it is tough when it comes to the bigs, because that's how how they kind of built this team and why they were so good at the same time.
Like you can get a big for cheap, right? Like, that's not you're not gonna get the pay to get a big unless it's a guy like Garren Bains who does offer some interesting things next to Davis.
That floor spacing would be really cool to see. And he's a good defender.
He's a good rebounder.
He actually offers a lot of good skills you would want to see next to 80.
And that's something I do hope if they do invest in three centers again or two centers or whatever it is.
I hope one of them is a little different.
They're very similar.
Jabal on Dwight, right? They're both just bending, rebounding, finish up logs.
There's nowhere a surge makes sense to like.
A Serge Ibaka would be interesting.
Yeah, I like a guy like Ibaka as well.
Who would really fit in with this team culture? On top of my list of guys that would be interested in for sure, he, um he removed his like all the Raptors stuff from his Instagram.
Today, I'm happy you're lucky you don't like, See all this device? I saw all this today, and the entire comments were just every single team jersey swapping him.
It's funny, like, I think, because we've all had so much time like fans included, where it's like everybody's had so much time to kind of know what the market is like.
We've basically we're going to go through it like eight months, 89 months of of offseason effectively, even though one of them was just like the hiatus.
Um, you know, we've all looked at everybody so much, it's it's kind of, you know, way all knows out there. It's Millsap.
I did a second look yesterday and I was so wildly disappointed.
I was like, Well, there's literally no one here that I've that I've missed or that broke out in the bubble.
It's all the same, guys.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun for sure.
Like even like Like Mark Assault.
You know, I'll just come back to the N B for Cheap and try to chase the ring like that, be interesting as well.
I know he didn't look the greatest in the playoffs, but he's still a solid center, and he gives like he would give the Lakers different look.
I think that's the thing that Mark Keith again.
Goodson Marquis thing.
It just gives the team a different look and versatility.
And I think that's something I think they wanna thio Chase this offseason.
Do you feel like Kuzma could grow into that? Or where's your head at With Kuzma In general, another guy who's gonna be up for an extension soon, right? So, yeah, they got to make a decision with who's pretty soon.
I was impressed at the defense has improved dramatically compared to his rookie or he was so bad defense.
Now he's a guy who could at least survive on the floor, and that's a big upgrade compared to where he waas, um, his shooting comes and goes.
That's just a big part of it.
I wish he was more consistent in the shooter, but again, he just fantastic because he doesn't need the ball at all.
Totally low usage just cuts off the ball constantly.
He just seems to improve their.
The defense is improving the rebound.
Still need Toe gets better play, making some things get better.
But again, he's mid twenties.
Could possibly get him for cheap.
You have this bird rights again.
Another guy who could be possible trade piece for a bigger deal.
But I like who's this year.
I think he was underrated in a few regards.
Yeah, I think the defense is the thing that stood out to me.
I also think like the shooting from the corners is like, Oh, he was He made like 50% of his corner threes for some reason this year.
Yeah, it seems like it's a it's just like a simplified look for him or something.
He looks very comfortable out there.
And I think some of the things that you saw in previous years, like you definitely didn't see it as much of him like on the like, the driving ghost stuff.
I don't feel like we saw as much from him.
So maybe that's something that you could be looking at.
Or maybe he just Yeah, he's like the I mean, obviously he's one of the younger guys there, but he's an interesting piece in that way where he's just brings so much size.
And, you know, the defense, I assume, will continue to improve.
Gotta learn how to close out my some of his clothes out in the e.
Uh, yeah, I wish she takes a summer.
It works on that, for sure.
But otherwise, no, I think he's He's an interesting, uh, piece for you guys going forward.
What do you think he would get in a trade? Oh, like what he could bring back.
Oh, that's interesting, like just him.
Or like in a bigger deal.
Let's put him Danny Green like we can.
You can do whatever you do, whatever.
That's tough, because usually those those guys on the rookie deals towards the end of it are not as attractive as they were getting of it.
Um, but I would I pay.
There's a team or to her, like I wonder what he looks like with the ball in his hands and doesn't really have to be the third or fourth option because defense still put up a lot of numbers like they might have been kind of empty numbers, but the guy was averaging almost 20 points and was way more efficient than than he has been.
So maybe there's something there that you can unlock and get him on the cheap, like in the teens low teens like That's something that would be interesting, I think, maybe that connect them, Uh, I don't know, like a rotation piece like a starter bench guy, Maybe like, But I think his biggest value would be in a package deal with, like a guy like Danny Green and a first round pick.
I don't know what that gets you, but I think that's the Lakers best kind of offer at this point.
Another one that I'm interested about in terms of like progression is Davis.
I'm curious to see what he adds next year.
What do you think is if you're looking at him looking at the full package, one of the two or three things you want to see him improve? So I think I want to see if that mid range shooting is legit, like obviously in the playoffs, like I was shooting almost 50.
And that's coming off a regular season where he was about like 36 37.
So something either clicked or I don't know.
But if he's a consistent 45 to 48% main range shooter like Holy crap, that guy is going to be really tough to defend.
I wish he does space the floor a bit more.
Uh, history points unique and always improve.
That's something I think that's been their whole career.
Um, also, just like I want to see how he handles double teams better. E.
You could play making just with those quick doubles.
We saw Toronto specifically in the bubble, really, really aggressive with how they doubled him.
Andi saw that Miami in this series.
Eso maybe just handling the doubles like a little better because they're gonna be coming, especially if the Lakers don't have a lot of shooting out there.
There's gonna be coming quick and often.
So just him kind of cleaning up like nuances of his game shooting.
If it's legit and you know just passing out doubles and stuff like that, Yeah, the passing thing is interesting.
I also think like like there are moments where he's a little deliberate like, and it's it feels weird, but like when he's on the post, you kind of like I felt like that was the big thing for Miami.
You saw that in Game three.
Jimmy Butler would come over and just kind of He kind of knew what a D would wanna do on the block, which is weird because yeah, like.
And it's a weird thing I do.
You think that's like fixable? Or is that Is that just like a feel thing? I don't know if you can fix that.
That's a good question, like, yeah, he unease e.
Right there is a bit of like nerves when he that double comes with him.
Yeah, and that's something I think the telegraph part you mentioned.
I think that's something the coaching staff like.
Hey, when the double comes this way you're going to swing the ball this way, and it's almost that he like, program that, and he's gonna do it every time he was.
That's not the right play like he's not reacting.
He's more going off kind of instinct where those guys should be.
So maybe it's a feel thing more than anything, but the Lakers did have great, um, coaching staff this year, like Full Handy.
He was tremendous.
There's a lot of teams we're gonna try to go after.
I think Brooklyn has been linked to fill handy, so hopefully aggressive on if he does go there.
You guys got a really, really good coach there.
A lot of players love Phil Handy.
Yeah, yeah, no rave reviews.
The Kyrie thing is like a big, big factor in that, so we'll see that Z.
It's a very weird coach market.
Everybody's everybody's going after the same A couple of people and then there's all these kids.
We have a Jason Kidd, one of those gonna pass e.
I think we've got enough of that the first time around.
Um, another thing I'm interested in is is what does it look like if LeBron and I don't know if he's ever wait.
Let me sort of this.
What is next year's LeBron look like? Uh like, Do you think he approaches next year differently? Or do you think he comes in the exact same way, buys in on defense and just sort of sets the tone that way? I guess I guess that depends who is not there, because first year LeBron with the Lakers was very passive.
He almost let the young guys.
I'm not sure if this was just more because he knew he couldn't win with this team or what, But he always just let the young guys make mistakes and just let them be them.
He'll come in and just get his numbers, but it wasn't very like leadership like it wasn't really him taking initiative there.
Whereas this season, uh, he's like, You know what? I'm just gonna be the full on point guard.
I'm gonna get tennis is the game.
I'm gonna be this playmaker.
I'm gonna try on defense.
There's a different shift with this season, so it'll be interesting to see if they get a guy like Dragic or someone who is more on bought and see how he reacts to that.
Does he still take that same approach where I'm gonna average 10 assists a game and play make for everyone, have the highest usage rate all most of his career? Or does he take more of a back seat to the guy like 18 and whoever they bring in? So I think it depends on who who's around them.
I think it's always been that way.
Okay, um, but then I just kind of I'm working under the assumption that he's gonna come in and kind of do the same thing, but that is that makes a little more sense now that you say it that way, just reacting to whatever he's working with, um, it would be interesting to I mean, I think if they're gonna bring in, what's what's nice about them is like if they bring in a guard that could be really choosy.
Like, I think like what they're working with with Rondo and because you kind of you assume Rondo is gonna go up another level and just do weird Rondo things get get boards and maybe foul, but also possibly ripped steals and and just do overall like things that are there are key plays like That's a nice little thing to have in your back pocket that I think he could do for years and years and years.
Those air just like, you know, high I Q. Place.
So you've run that and you have.
LeBron is basically your your supersized point guard like you're, you know, five inches taller.
Jason like career Jason Kidd like That's great.
I think that gives you guys a lot of flexibility and luxury.
It makes sure that he can play for a long time.
Like with LeBron.
Obviously, his athleticism is not what it was when he was a younger guy, but that play making that I Q like I don't know when that will go.
I don't think that will ever go.
So if his body is right like this, he could be the point guard for a team for like seven years.
I don't know how much longer.
Yeah, it's just because you said he could just play make and you have a guy like a D who is in his prime of his career.
He takes so much pressure off him on defense and so much pressure off him in the half court like you just watch the playoffs.
There's so many possessions or just a D in the post, like here. It's your turn.
Just get us a bucket.
And the broad really hasn't had that since Kyrie.
And it's just a big luxury for him, for sure.
Yeah, no, it is, I think the I'd be curious to see who like what the presumptive best teammate LeBron has ever had, like best secondary guy, because I think there's a case for A D II year.
Wade was fantastic like, But I do think there's a case, especially with where LeBron is just in terms of like, managing games.
Now, Um, I wanna ask too quick, too quick questions to little more fun related to the season.
What was your favorite quote of this year? Just anything could be at any point.
Could be 10 minutes ago.
I think it's got to be like a Javal one.
Probably okay, Developed quotes.
I think it was about Caruso.
I think there was a like a stretch where they were just all wear headbands, and I think Cruz so is one of those guys with the headbands and I just I think Javal always just calls him the Goat every time travel cause Crusoe the goat.
I think that was my favorite quote.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, he's leading into that.
I don't know if you know who is also leading that.
The clutch points graphics will lean into that to see.
Oh, the best account to follow for sure. Good.
I had their notes.
Uh, different question.
Favorite stat of this year.
Um, favorite stat.
That was something I wrote about early in the season.
I was trying to track like that was gonna be the thing I was like known for.
This team just dumped so much, I think there they had more.
I think it was because they had Dwight who was like the dunk leader for, like, seven years.
And then second on that list or throwing that list was Javal.
So they had, like, the top three and dunks on the same team.
And I don't I didn't attract where they finished off, but they were first for a long time there.
Yeah, So, between the bronze, a DJ Surveillance white just so maney dunks.
So just the dunks.
Um, what's your second favorite? Second favorite has to be something like weird.
I think it might be that close my corner number that talked about.
But it's What do you look at? Like what you're shooting, What from the corners, like 49%.
Something insane? Yeah, that one stuck out to me quite a bit, I think.
Yeah, that that's the That's the one I'm gonna remember.
I think neither the Cozma corner or like the Marquis if above the break.
3% being so good.
Yeah, for some reason, like he shot like 44% in the regular season.
And then I think that went up in the playoffs for some reason.
So just like a different ones.
Good here, but not good there.
And one's good. They're not good there.
That's a good Both of those were good.
One is fun because I mean again, like being in the league of threes.
Just being the dunk team is great.
I'm so curious, like I think, for next year.
One of the things I really want is the is the Warriors.
I want the Warriors to play the Lakers.
I want some clarity on which of these two movements has more like.
Do they think it'll be fascinating? I'm also higher on the Warriors than I think other people.
I think words should be good next year, for sure.
Yeah, no, but I do want to see that clash of styles.
That's always fun, because they're just such contrast there.
It was such a bummer, though.
It was such a bummer after, like, 3 2.5 games.
So, like, I wonder what Houston does.
I know we're not gonna talk about Houston, but again, just I wonder how the league reacts to the Lakers is what I'm interested in.
Do they go big? They just, like, shift a different way.
Like because no one really matched up with the Lakers in the seas in terms of their strength, their athleticism, their size, they just kill teams on the boards like offensive boards.
So how do you if you're Houston, if you're the Warriors, if you're another one of these ****ytical teams who have leaned a different direction in terms of just gonna shoot 53 is a game, we're gonna be switching on defense.
We're gonna give up boards because we want to run or whatever.
Like, how did they react to this, or do they not or do they go a different way? That's something I want to see this offseason.
And that's the one that, like after the first two games of the fun football brain is like broken.
I don't even I need to, like recalibrate, because I I think it's like one of the most fascinating philosophical questions I can remember.
I mean, I guess, really, since the Warriors started breaking out where you're like, Do you need toe build differently? Like if you're looking at next year, like do you actually need to size up in a way that nobody expected and like, what does that do for the center market? What is does that improve like a Nerlens Noel like? Is he suddenly ah, little more interesting.
I think it's fascinating.
I think that part is so fascinating and we were just saying like the centers are always cheap.
Does that change this offseason? A guy like Bell or no well, like Wait, What the hell? What did they make like? So that's gonna be I don't even think of that until you mentioned it. So Centers.
Let's see how much of a premium they are in the off season.
And we could probably assume, if that was directly because of what the Lakers did or you know, so that that's something to be looking out for.
Yeah, it's funny, like I one of the things like found myself gravitating a lot just more towards like guys that I know can kind of size up four or five.
And like anybody, that's like a point of attack or or one of these, like guard the guard positions.
I'm just like I don't really know, Like God like That's kind of weird.
Your value is suddenly really damper, like in a significant way.
It's It's very odd.
It was to weigh wings.
That's all you want really before, right? Or those, like you said those guards who are big enough to guard multiple positions and guard the point of attack but also chase guards off screens and stuff.
But now is it shifting? Thio more of the front court? Who could go 45 and just do that interchangeably? So, yeah, that's interesting for sure.
It's really weird.
It's really, really weird.
And it happened in the span of I don't like a a month, like, just completely flipped everything.
I think it's fascinating.
Um, I I have one more main question for you.
Then I will let you plug away anything that you have coming out because it sounds like if we could work a trade, let's pretend where the general managers of the two teams that we cover, um, if we could work a trade, Who were you looking at on the Nets? Is there anybody on the nets at all? Are you just like I'm good off that? And he's now, lay kid.
Uh, I think he does fit that archetype we were talking about earlier.
You can run, pick and roll.
It could be a spot up guy.
He can score off the dribble.
That's something they really needed this season.
Um, I think din witty would be the most realistic guy about you.
Um, I was I'm not super surprised about the dinner.
What do you think? Because it was it was rumored, but I think it makes a lot of sense because he is just like he could get his own shot in such a significant way, and he's a good play maker.
He really confined guys on and just also makes a lot of sense for this, like driving kick.
If you're just gonna slot guys on the that's the guy that just can carry it.
Um, finding the deal is interesting.
I guess it would be, I don't know.
You guys have such interesting books because you don't have any major money, right? Because density is around 13 inches 13 out of Danny Green, any deal with dignity would have to include. And green.
It would be interesting next to Kyrie and Durant.
Yes, I think I think the Nets side of things and that's fans would lose their minds.
E think could be great because that's always fun.
Thio two played spectator to eso.
It would either be Danny Green.
You think you do like a sign and trade with K C.
P or something and no, would you? So if you're from your side which you guys prefer a guy like K, C. P.
Or so what would it deal look like? If you're like, what would you ask for from Dunwoody if you're Brooklyn's manager like Sam, the Lakers. I'm calling.
What did with what do you want? If we could put somehow figure out the money, I think I would rather KCP than Danny.
You e I don't know how you Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Oh, I think I would have to be involved in anything.
Okay, so that's not interesting.
I think for Brooklyn, I don't Yeah, you would have to ask for.
Yeah, I think I think whose would be the thing And if he doesn't fit, I mean, he kind of, like, makes a little bit of sense for them.
If you can really get the buy in defensively, they need that spot, though.
They need that, like, stretch for pretty desperately.
So it's like the Nets are gonna be in the like ballpark of I mean, like a Jae Crowder would fit them perfectly.
Like, I think a Kuzma would also make a little bit of sense.
I don't hate that.
I know some people are colder on Kuzma.
Actually, I think he's I think he's fine.
I think he's got upside to, so that's kind of an interesting deal.
So Kuzma kcp package Very odd But I don't know.
I wonder I wonder which team would say no to that.
I would say maybe Brooklyn, because I think they're gonna I would assume they're going to take the din witty Jared Allen package and try to figure out what they could do with that.
So they could send that to like, Houston.
If Houston wanted toe shed a wing, I don't know if they would, because they sent out.
Tucker is very integral to what they dio uh, but they were interested in General E.
No, I think they also sent out so much for Covington to That's the guy everyone should be after coming.
But But that would make a little bit of sense.
You get, like, a kind of like a cappella do over, or you don't.
I personally like Jared on a little bit more than Covington.
Just for size reasons alone.
So that would be an interesting deal.
Um, I don't know if our teams could make a trade saying all this out loud.
Yeah, I don't know, I think, but if if I'm the Lakers, I would be calling Brooklyn, it would be 10.
Woody, I just think there's enough boxes, each other.
Um, I think like if they do make a deal this offseason trade, which they might I think it's possible.
I think it would be for a guide that tear like a guy like Dinwiddie who's a star like a starter level player.
Okay, I think if they decide to not break this up, but just shift things around, it would have to be for something notable or substantial.
I think it didn't with the Falls into that category.
I think it would be a really good edition.
So it be like that that Danny Green Would it be a green Kuzma package or something like that? Because I think that it waas any deal is gonna be green.
Kuzma feels like I just green just for the money purposes like he just matches any kind of high level players money.
And then who's really the only young asset they have outside of a draft pick? Oh, quite a few in New Orleans.
They do have this year's draft pick, but, um so I don't know what, no idea what they could do with that, but yeah, will be interesting.
Yeah, that is interesting.
I that would be I'm surprised that you you You think they might make a trade? I just worked under the assumption that they're going to do this like that, man.
But I think that will be aggressive.
I think Pelinka has shown that if a deal presents itself, he's gonna do something.
They want to keep cap space.
I'm guessing for 2021.
Yes, that's how they structured all the deals.
Just 4 to 2 year deal.
So that's definitely something.
They did that on purpose.
So either as trade reasons for this offseason or for preserving money next offseason.
So at Pelinka has shown that, uh, he's earned some credit for the moves he's made.
Yep, he hasn't really outside the A D.
Trade was just which was fantastic, given the results.
Yes, I am, curiously, what other trades look like under the plan? Kyra, who do you think they have circled for 2021? Like, do you think that there is a guy that they have like there? They got him on the dartboard, and they're like, Honestly, I think everybody's looking at you, honest.
If all the Depot is healthy.
I think again he's another guy who makes a lot of sense of guard, defensive guard, like a defensively A him and a d would be fantastic.
Um, I think he'd fit well next.
I think he can handle some of the ball handling duties.
I think he's a good enough shooter to be out there.
I think all Depot makes some sense.
If healthy, would they? Would they just take the Flyer? Or do you think that's too risky? Like, do you think they would just be like a lot of fans have argued debated about because he's out there, right? You know, teams, uh, teams will be calling, um, Lakers, take that flyer and number one so basically secure him if they do well again this season, and he'll just resign in the off season.
You already have him in house, and that's something they've they learned, like their mistake's from this guy like Paul George in the past, not trading for guys when they had the chance and just waiting.
So do they just kick that cash space for all deeper right now? Not knowing if peacefully healthy and if he is healthy.
I mean, that's again all the depo LeBron a d is pretty good trio.
Yes, and it does make it a little bit easier on him if he doesn't recalibrate like if he doesn't come back the way that he may be, would want to.
It is a little bit easier.
God, that makes a lot of sense.
I didn't even think of that the main guy anymore.
His body might think about better.
Wow, you're blowing my mind with this.
That makes so much sense.
Yeah, because I've been looking at him kind of his like he feels like the panic guy, like, somebody's gonna like a team that's on the fringes and they're like, We just wanna make the playoffs.
Let's just let's just do this.
We're gonna bring all the depot in.
But that actually makes way more sense if you're the Lakers and for him because another guy that just he wants to be on a winning team.
Man, that's fascinating.
That is fascinating.
I don't know if the Lakers have the pieces, but then Kuzma Green possible first round pick.
I don't know if that to Indiana.
What's I think? Gangrene would be awesome in Indiana.
Yeah, he makes sense.
Right? Uh, who's another young guy play? 34? Um, even the two times like e don't know.
You could maybe sell that to your fan base and a first round pick. Yep.
I don't know if that's enough, but if he's gonna be leaving anyway, I think their market will be super cold.
I just like again, like with all the teams that are active or going to be active as much as I think that there's a lot of teams that air slightly panicked.
And again, I'm looking at the prison, this regarding a lot of ways, but I still think you're gonna want that guarantee.
I just don't know Oladipo because of all the concerns and even honestly, like, if you're if you're the Pacers, like you go to first and Kuzma like a young player, right? You probably just flip them again.
If you write your deadline one add, that actually makes quite a bit of sense.
That's the one right there.
E figured it out.
I've been I've been tryingto just been running through ideas for Oladipo there, Ugo Great e wanna let you plug away anything that you have coming out? You have your own newsletter, Which it sounds like something. Maybe on the way.
So newsletters throw downs dot sub stack. It's free.
I'm just gonna be writing like a encapsulation of the year, just like a ah year long kind of piece about kind of where this team is come from.
Like how they get here, the different.
Like, we're talking about the different kind of hallmarks of this team, their defense, their versatility and just this chemistry that again from someone who's watched it since training camp.
It's been incredible.
This team has just come together like like I've never seen, obviously with the Lakers in past, like we've heard stories and no players who dislike each other.
Backstabbing turmoil, Magic Johnson resigning on air and from everyone.
And then the day they announced, Frank Vogel goes on ESPN to bash Rob Pelinka an hour before he introduces Frank Vogel.
This stuff is was not there this year.
This was complete opposite.
So yeah, I just wanted to write about that aspect for sure.
Is there a game that you kind of like or a moment where you you kind of realized.
Oh, this might be like this might not actually be the Magic Johnson.
Like e don't know.
I think that Dallas I don't know why that Dallas game always stands out.
The one where Danny Green hit that three descended to over time, that game, which is fantastic for both teams.
But they were losing, going to that fourth quarter, and they had to make that come back.
And then Frank Vogel made that fantastic side out of bounds play to send it to overtime.
And they won that game.
And I think it showed one that could be a really good team on the road there.
They had the best road record in the league and just kick started everything, I think.
Yeah, That's, uh I wish I had bought it earlier.
I just wasn't ready.
I'm all used to small E, my friend.
Thank you so much for coming on.
This was this was a blast.
And it was fun to hear some happy side of the world and happy, uh, happy experience for you.
This is a lot of fun.
I'm gonna be checking my free agency and the trade rumors is that all the depo trade happens? We gotta get some credit for that. Fournier.
There's another good one as we go as we go play another one player option.
I don't know if he turns it down, but another one would be great.
There you go. I'm leaving on that nugget.
Shoot me some just drops.
Um, e might come across, um, some players.
Let's do it, my friend.
It was fun meeting you.
Thank you again.