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00:00:22
And with that, we officially welcome you into the Monday Night Football preview right here on SportsCastr along myself.
00:00:29
Adam are indirect.
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Ray Ralph and Laurence Owen.
00:00:31
Fellas, how you doing on at least in my neck of the woods? A rainy Monday evening? Pretty good.
00:00:38
How you doing? Yeah, it's raining here to going in here.
00:00:43
All right, listen. Good.
00:00:44
Then we're all in the same pot together.
00:00:45
Listen, we come in ahead of what hopefully is going to be a nice matchup between the Chargers and the Saints before we dive fully into that game and what our expectations are in general.
00:00:55
I think last time I was living with the two of you, we talked about the Atlanta Falcons.
00:00:59
We talked about the situation that looked like it was trending in a bad direction.
00:01:03
And then following the loss there, the Carolina Panthers, they officially make a move ahead.
00:01:07
Coach Lawrence, let's start with you.
00:01:09
Surprised, shocked, bewildered by Atlanta's decision to move on.
00:01:14
Why would I have any kind of shocked? Believe any of that that you just said, Uh, this is the same kind of thing with with o Brien.
00:01:23
I'm neither.
00:01:24
Neither fan base wanted either cut coach for years now, years, and it's just been we have all this talent and aren't able to do anything with it.
00:01:35
We need someone out there that can actually mold this talent in tow, winning games.
00:01:40
And when you start off Oh, and five fully crap, man, and you got Jones and this offense for the Falcons.
00:01:49
I don't care what the Yes, okay, they were able to put up some points on some teams, but look at the teams that they were putting up against.
00:01:59
Everybody was putting points up against those teams, right? So, yeah, I'm I think it's past due.
00:02:05
I think both the head coach firings that we've seen over the past week has most definitely been past due Ray Arthur Blank.
00:02:15
They're considered to be one of the better.
00:02:16
Better owners in the league likes to do right by his team.
00:02:20
What's the mismanagement there may be in terms of having such a high powered offense and then clearly being so short handed on the defensive side of the ball, you got Matt Ryan entering the latter stages of his career.
00:02:31
Lawrence mentions Jones.
00:02:33
You got Calvin Ridley, you got weapons you brought in Todd Gurley? What did they not? What do they not connect the dots on prior to coming into the season where you thought you released gonna be competitive, right? They didn't connect the dots in 2016 when it was the best team they ever had and blew a Super Bowl.
00:02:49
And I'm not bringing that up because I'm a Patriots fan.
00:02:51
I'm really not.
00:02:53
The Falcons are on the tail end of this era.
00:02:58
Um, it's very difficult when your top players were starting to make top money to have both a balanced offense and a balance defense.
00:03:07
You have to do it in an era when you have young people performing for very little money.
00:03:14
When you look at a team like the Kansas City Chiefs who won the Super Bowl with the quarterback, that was making what a million and a half dollars.
00:03:21
Right now he's gonna be making 23 24 25 27 $30 million.
00:03:27
That changes your cap situation.
00:03:29
That doesn't allow you to if we use Kansas City to have Tyreek, Hill, Sammy, Watkins, Travis, Kelsey and all of them, all on the same team and in Kansas City is gonna experience what Atlanta has now experiencing this year, and we already started seeing it Nat last year.
00:03:47
You can't The only way to make this work is to absolutely hit on every single draft pick that you make, and that's virtually impossible.
00:03:58
No team has every hit hit on every draft pick, and I'll use the New England Patriots is an example.
00:04:05
Yes, they've been sustainably good for 20 years, but they want a lot of close games where the defense didn't play well or you go back to 2018 where the defense carry them through, or last year, where the defense carried them through to the playoffs.
00:04:20
But when you can't, you couldn't have both units clicking all the way together.
00:04:23
A salary start to rise, and that's where Atlanta went.
00:04:26
As for the firing didn't shock me.
00:04:29
We talked about it, I said, if he loses another game, I was surprised when they went, 014 that his job wasn't in jeopardy.
00:04:35
Arthur Blank said today that Arthur Blank said today that going into this season, Dan Quinn agreed that this was an all or nothing season.
00:04:43
So far, it's been nothing.
00:04:45
The move had to be made.
00:04:47
Just disagreed.
00:04:48
Yes, I agree.
00:04:49
It's all or nothing.
00:04:50
I'm going with nothing.
00:04:51
I'm approaching this season from nothing standpoint.
00:04:53
The an interesting.
00:04:54
So we talk about Houston, makes that switch as well.
00:04:57
They already have and are paying.
00:04:58
Now they're young quarterback there.
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Matt Ryan coming again to the back end of his career.
00:05:04
Atlanta could at least feasibly, though, being a really great position to finish out the rest of this season, being bad on defense, being whatever, you're gonna be probably at least closer to the hot top end of things on the offensive side of the ball and then fall into potentially the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes there at the top of the draft.
00:05:22
So from that standpoint, Lawrence, they may actually luck themselves into the thing that Ray mentions.
00:05:27
You didn't capitalize back in 2016 and then you still chose to stay pot committed and then over commit on some of these contracts, you may be able to quickly turn the tables back here and get a young young quarterback under contract on a rookie deal, and then you can balance back out the defensive side.
00:05:42
So Atlanta could get more competitive.
00:05:44
Ah, lot sooner than maybe you think from the outside.
00:05:48
Well, it's possible.
00:05:49
Um, but there are multiple teams right now that is in a race, apparently for Trevor Lawrence.
00:05:56
And let's not let's not make the assumption that quarterback is going to fix everything for this Atlanta Falcons team.
00:06:03
Their defense is awful.
00:06:05
Awful.
00:06:06
There they are going to need a good corner out there.
00:06:09
Uh, they're going to need some pass rush in some interior help.
00:06:13
They have holes on that defense that absolutely needs to be filled.
00:06:18
And I mean, like, Ray said earlier, unless you're hitting on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th round draft picks, your early on draft, picks your money, draft picks, then it's not gonna help you long term.
00:06:32
And so, yeah, having Trevor Lawrence on that team is gonna be awesome if they if they even get him.
00:06:40
But, my goodness, I mean, yeah, well, if this team puts up 30 points a game, fine.
00:06:46
But if they can't stop the other team from from scoring 35 you're losing every game.
00:06:52
Look at the Dallas Cowboys, right? All that offense, great, everything across the board, but they can't stop a nosebleed.
00:06:59
So, you know, I mean, they got to start hitting somewhere.
00:07:03
Besides, just, you know, the guaranteed first pick that they would be granted if they had the worst record the NFL before we move off of it.
00:07:13
Right? Go ahead.
00:07:14
Right? Yeah.
00:07:15
Atlanta has, like, the 31st worst pass defense in the NFL, right? And that that's a problem.
00:07:21
And you know, Atlanta to coaching is an issue beyond just the talent they have on this team.
00:07:27
If you think back to that, they shouldn't be on five number one.
00:07:29
At the very least, it should be one and four.
00:07:31
Not knowing the rules of an onside kick is 100% on coaching if it's one guy that doesn't know the rule, Okay, you've got an idiot on your team when you've got eight guys watching the football, not knowing to jump on it.
00:07:44
That's not being prepared for an onside kick.
00:07:48
And you know what? Preseason has nothing to do with defending an on side kick.
00:07:52
Eso you can't blame it on a lack of preparation, and I mean the onside kick rule or something.
00:07:57
I think we learn and you know well in the States because of Pop Warner.
00:08:00
Here we have the call a little League.
00:08:02
So it Z coaching was an issue.
00:08:06
And also look at it, too, though, that they had gone up against some of the higher, especially early in the season.
00:08:13
Higher powered scoring quarterbacks and teams.
00:08:17
So you'd also expected defense.
00:08:19
That's not classified.
00:08:20
Elite it all to get beat up on a little bit last night before we do move off that Ray Matt Ryan, who's under contract till 2024.
00:08:28
Let's say they do bought him out and they're sitting at the top of the draft.
00:08:31
Is there a team? Or if you are a team around the NFL who has an opening at the quarterback position, is there value there for Atlanta to say we can move this player off and maybe get back some more of those shots in the draft to replenish, replenish their roster? Or is Matt Ryan looked at a guy that's making too much money for what the return on investment is? Yeah, having the contract is the issue.
00:08:52
I think Atlanta's gonna have to eat some contract.
00:08:54
This isn't a Philip Rivers situation where he was, you know, a free agent.
00:08:59
I think if the Colts had the choice, they might look at Matt Ryan over Philip Rivers when they're signing a quarterback.
00:09:04
But not from Matt Ryan type of money.
00:09:06
Um, I think the only way they could move him is if they eat some of that salary cap from another team.
00:09:13
And that's not going up, is the cap it for them.
00:09:15
Which then eliminates the advantage that Atlanta gets by moving on from Matt Ryan.
00:09:22
All you've done now is moved on from Matt Ryan.
00:09:23
You're still eating cap.
00:09:25
If I'm Atlanta and I'm in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, as you said, I'm keeping Matt Ryan.
00:09:30
Andi, I'm telling Matt Ryan, you're guaranteed starter at least for one season until you know we start into the back end of that contract and Trevor Lawrence is gonna play behind you and, you know, yeah, the same approach the Kansas City took with this kid Patrick Mahomes, who sat behind Alex Smith for a year.
00:09:49
Or, you know, yeah, I heard some good things right.
00:09:52
Or the approach that they tried to take in Baltimore, where the this other kid, Lamar Jackson, sat behind Joe Flacco.
00:09:58
You know, Brady sat behind his blood.
00:10:00
So, guy, you know, they all sat all the greats, kind of sad.
00:10:03
I know Peyton started right away, but most of them sat, you know? Yeah, and grew up alone behind Brady, you know, like it's it's so it's not a bad thing for Trevor Lawrence to learn how to be a professional before he becomes a professional, as we're gonna turn our attention to the Saints and Chargers game. Lawrence.
00:10:21
But are you of the newer old school mentality when it comes to quarterbacks and grooming them? A lot of teams now, usually, when you're bad, you throw the young quarterback into the fire, because who cares? You're gonna be bad either way, getting the reps.
00:10:32
But can you poison Ah, young quarterback by getting in there too soon, especially on bad rosters.
00:10:37
Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.
00:10:39
The example.
00:10:40
It'll Herbert tonight in this game is going to be getting reps.
00:10:42
He's looks pretty good early and flashed, But are you running the risk of ruining a young talent if your team around them isn't strong enough like that's the part of it? All right? There are two.
00:10:54
You can do it both ways.
00:10:56
It really depends upon the quarterback that you drafted right has a lot to do with the mentality of the quarterback. I think.
00:11:03
Herbert, what's NFL ready? When he came out, I think Herberts, one of those guys that could have came out and started right away, However, guys like to, uh, I think needed to send for a while.
00:11:14
Guys like Dwayne Haskins should have sat for a while.
00:11:18
Uh, there are.
00:11:20
It just depends Upon the college.
00:11:21
They played the type of, uh, NFL offense and the head coach and the coaching they had throughout college.
00:11:28
That kind of stuff that they the decides on.
00:11:31
Whether or not this is a player that can handle the NFL walking right out, not just the speed of its stuff like it's all the mental reps, the stuff that that goes on, um, when you lose, when when when you win, how you handle the media, how you handle everything.
00:11:52
You know that that's something that is player to player base When it comes to the quarterback position.
00:11:58
I also think it's the expectation that the team has so, for instance, when Joe Burrow was drafted everybody kind of said Joe Burrow doesn't fix all the problems in Cincinnati.
00:12:10
So if they would know in 16 nobody would look at Joe Burrow and say, Oh, he's a draft bust.
00:12:15
You know, um, they would look at his individual play.
00:12:20
Daniel Jones, on the other hand, who was criticized or the Giants were criticized highly for drafting Daniel Jones, never should have seen the second of the field.
00:12:29
Not because I don't think the kid couldn't handle it, because, unfortunately, Giants fans always have higher expectations.
00:12:36
Giants Media always has higher expectations, and they really thought when they benched Dely, he was going to come in and make them a truly competitive team.
00:12:44
All that kids done is fail, not as him the team, but he's only failed since coming to that team.
00:12:52
And I think that the Giants could have ruined Daniel Jones, and I said when they drafted him.
00:12:57
Don't let that kid take the field this first year.
00:13:00
You don't have a chance in the footnote there.
00:13:03
Is that to your point, Lawrence, right, where they coming from? What are they playing in college system? You can look at the film on Daniel Jones and get excited about his fundamentals and what you think.
00:13:11
He projects Thio.
00:13:12
But he played a Duke, and the competition level is different than playing at USC or playing in one of the big the big colleges.
00:13:18
So that's another great push in the direction of saying Acknowledge that you're bad If you're the New York Giants, let Eli Manning stay around for another year.
00:13:26
You don't have to force him into retirement regardless of what you think he has left or not.
00:13:30
And just save Daniel Jones from having to go through what he's going through right now and to your point.
00:13:34
Ray, the media fan base turning on him already.
00:13:37
And it's regardless of what he's doing or not doing well.
00:13:40
It's all about still this weird mechanism of we're supposed to have turned a corner here, even if player by player position by position, we're one of the worst teams in the league.
00:13:50
That's just New York media, right? That's the idea.
00:13:52
Well, no, you should be able to compete the very next season. You go three and 13.
00:13:55
You should be a playoff team the next year, and that's few and far between that.
00:13:58
Those examples exist where teams can truly turn it around that quickly into tonight's match up we go where there's a veteran quarterback.
00:14:05
We mentioned the rookie, the young player in Justin Herbert, and then you got Drew Brees.
00:14:09
On the other side of it, the New Orleans Saints come out maybe a little bit sluggish to start the year.
00:14:13
A little bit surprising.
00:14:14
Unfortunately, Drew Brees will be without his main weapon, at least from a receiving standpoint, in Michael Thomas as he's getting suspended for punching a teammate in the head of practice.
00:14:24
Always a ah, good thing to hear out of out of the weekly news around a particular team.
00:14:29
Has Michael Thomas been paying attention to Baltimore Ravens safeties or something? I don't understand this.
00:14:35
It takes his cues, look around the league and takes his cues from whatever makes sense to him.
00:14:40
What Lawrence, What have you seen early? They started to use Camara much more effectively as we've seen them do in the past.
00:14:46
Are you concerned about Drew Brees and how he's looked early in the season? Do you think that he still has enough there for them to round into form and make a deep playoff run.
00:14:54
Or are you seeing him age kind of before our eyes? Actually, yeah, I think we started seeing him age a little bit about midway through last season.
00:15:04
Um, we started to see that quite a bit.
00:15:08
And it's just been kind of rolling mortem or and more.
00:15:11
And I think that was part of the reason why the Saints went ahead and went and got another quarterback.
00:15:17
That's got a cannon this complete opposite of what you expect from Drew Brees, right? I mean, Drew Brees is that safe? Throw it to whoever is open real quick.
00:15:28
Read the defense, and then the guy they got is I'm gonna throw it whoever is downfield by the end zone.
00:15:35
I don't care about my my my own 10 yard line.
00:15:38
I'm gonna throw it out there, and hopefully someone will come down with it.
00:15:41
Don't care if it's my team or the other team.
00:15:43
Exactly.
00:15:44
Uh, that that's how media and ah lot of fan bases view him anyhow.
00:15:52
But really, we could see Drew Brees end up kind of losing some of his snaps as the season starts.
00:16:01
I would not be surprised to see James.
00:16:04
It drew, and this passing offense is still consistently going through Alvin Kamara, which is scary when when they got supposedly all these other weapons, obviously, Michael Thomas not being there, it would not hurt to see a few snaps like you've seen from Taysom Hill from Jamis Winston every once in a while, just to see what he could do.
00:16:29
Ray way and listen.
00:16:32
I didn't throw it out.
00:16:33
There is a gotcha question, but just wondering about where is Ruby at this point. His career.
00:16:37
He has thrown for eight touchdowns, two interceptions.
00:16:39
He's completing 71% of his passes 1000 yards on the year that the stat lines were good and in that division where Tampa Bay just lost, even though Carolina one you win tonight and you're in a three way tie at the top of it, is there a risk of losing the quality of this team? Overall, withdrew Pisa quarterback.
00:16:55
Do you think that's being a little bit overblown? Maybe akin to the way Tom Brady was looked at early in this year with Tampa Bay.
00:17:00
New system, new cast of characters it seems like he is also rounding in the form I think that okay, there's a couple of different points.
00:17:08
I think that it's and Drew Brees is probably taking the most criticism on the Saints team.
00:17:14
There's a magic number and that magic number is 30.8.
00:17:18
And that's a significant number because that's the identical number of points that the New Orleans Saints score per game and the amount of points that they concede per game.
00:17:28
Um, right in that sweet spot where you have a razor thin margin to win? Yes, so it's, you know, it's it's that's where it is.
00:17:37
Um, listen, when you look at the yards to, I think it's their 17th in the league. Overall.
00:17:42
Um, as Lawrence knows, I'm an ****ytic guy to their D v.
00:17:46
O.
00:17:47
A.
00:17:48
Is eighth overall in the NFL, Um, and and some of that is because of a whole bunch of different things.
00:17:53
Does Drew Brees look like Drew Brees from two years ago? Absolutely not.
00:17:57
Are they better with Jameis Winston at quarterback? I can't say that they could be, um, I don't look at this offense and say That's the problem on this team.
00:18:08
Your defense is 28th in the league for points against your offense is fifth in the league for points. Four.
00:18:16
Um the thing is, though, as football fans and I think sports fans in general, we love scapegoats, right? We could never just look at a unit and say, It's this.
00:18:27
Units falter.
00:18:28
Maybe the Saints played a better team at some point.
00:18:32
No, it has to be Drew Brees problem that the defense is giving up, you know, 31 points a game, right? It can't just be that two teams got together in one team. Lost.
00:18:41
It has to be.
00:18:42
You didn't win that game.
00:18:43
The other team cost.
00:18:44
It's specifically around this player.
00:18:46
I'm not saying that the defense don't need help.
00:18:49
What I'm saying is specifically looking at Drew Brees when you're number one.
00:18:53
Receiver is not only your running back, but you're number.
00:18:57
But that running back has mawr than twice Aziz, many receptions than the number two receiver on your team.
00:19:04
I think that's a problem, layer deeper before we look over at the Chargers, Did the Saints fail? I mean, we just talked about inside that same division, the Atlanta Falcons.
00:19:13
Okay, you're this past heavy or offensively driven team.
00:19:16
Your defense is not good.
00:19:17
And even though I know 28 but you're far worse.
00:19:21
Even in the Saints defense currently is.
00:19:23
Do you think that there's a failure there around? Once you start to collect these pieces, you get the Michael Thomas, you get the camera, you have Drew Brees.
00:19:30
You kind of get locked into becoming this offensive team.
00:19:34
And we know, go back.
00:19:35
Over the years when New Orleans has bubbled up with the quality defense, then they've been ableto have their deeper playoff runs, and typically it costs you to not have a least a middle of the road defense in order to get over the NFC Championship hump and find you find your way into a Super Bowl.
00:19:50
Drew Brees.
00:19:51
What they've been there only is the only been there once, maybe twice in his career.
00:19:54
I don't wanna I don't misquoted you know you for what Drew Brees is, and for what these weapons are, you would think you'd be having more success should they have pivoted at some point along the way here and try to to raise point.
00:20:07
Let's be the 10th best offense and let's be the 17th ranked defense and that's actually going to be better for us when it comes to playoff time.
00:20:15
Yeah, listen, I get what you're saying, and they had to focus on on the defense more than they did, but I think very much like Atlanta, they pigeon holed themselves into a situation where they had to go with their strength.
00:20:32
There's a lot of disappointment on this.
00:20:35
This offense, when you look at it, should be averaging 35 points a game.
00:20:41
Now They brought in Emmanuel Sanders this year.
00:20:44
Who has? Sorry, I just looked at the stat because I knew it was awful.
00:20:47
He has 182 receiving yards this season.
00:20:53
He has 28 YAC yards.
00:20:56
20.
00:20:57
He is averaging 1.
00:20:58
3 yards per.
00:21:00
You know after the catch.
00:21:02
And he's supposed to be a specialist in Yes, he's supposed to be a specialist in the back.
00:21:07
You haven't had Michael Thomas since week one cooks, I believe Mr Game or two, you know.
00:21:12
And when he's there, he's banged up.
00:21:14
Breeze has missed a lot of his weapons.
00:21:17
Yeah, Sean Payton put all of that.
00:21:20
I forget what the GM name is, but they put all of their eggs in one basket by bringing back breeze.
00:21:25
Um, I think of what? I'm a little disappointed.
00:21:27
It is.
00:21:28
Drew Brees came back as a free agent said that he was coming in tow, win a Super Bowl, and he took a pretty big contract to do that. Right.
00:21:37
Um, if you're really at 40 years old coming back because you want one more go in a Super Bowl and it's not about money, take 15 year.
00:21:45
You know what I mean and and build yourself a Super Bowl team because this defense is a problem.
00:21:50
And you think about I'm Actually, I look at a guy like Drew Brees.
00:21:53
And yes, he doesn't look like Drew Brees of yesteryear.
00:21:56
But I'm thinking you've played it without your best receiver.
00:21:58
Your best tight end banged up, and you're specialist who can't get any YAC yards.
00:22:03
And yet you're still putting up 30.
00:22:04
8, you know, 31 points per game.
00:22:07
Um, you should have taken 15 and put some money into that defense.
00:22:11
I wanna know just Yeah, they're they're scoring plenty of points.
00:22:15
Their defense is giving up plenty of points, but there's some players are their game in game out, and I've just completely disappeared.
00:22:24
And I'm curious as to know, Is this a coaching thing? Or is this, um, Drew Brees? Because go look Taysom Hill, who is so good at doing a lot of things.
00:22:37
He's not like the best at doing any one thing, but he's very good at doing many things.
00:22:42
But he only had 10 carries in three targets through the air through four games.
00:22:47
And I would think that someone of tastings skill set would get looked at at least a lot more often.
00:22:57
Um, but I haven't looked at the film.
00:23:01
I don't know.
00:23:02
I don't even know if he's on the field to get those targets.
00:23:04
Well, I mean, maybe it's a race point, though, to when you have a camera.
00:23:07
I mean, first of all, when you have Michael Thomas and he's on the field, well, then you're going to write when you have that true number one.
00:23:12
You're giving him the polka targets because you know it maximizes our chance toe win.
00:23:17
If he gets more touches.
00:23:18
Likewise with the camera.
00:23:19
Listen, we only have a tight window with running backs.
00:23:21
We know they're gonna burn out eventually.
00:23:23
So we're also going to go ahead and pile on to this guy and use them in both phases of the game to again maximizes value.
00:23:29
Now, just from a philosophical standpoint, I think you always want to be a balanced offense and balance defense as well, right? You want to spread out your talent.
00:23:37
But I think I think, Ray, it rings true when you say you don't realize three years ahead of time that you're walking into pigeonholing yourself, it's only that then you're there.
00:23:47
And now and now you're saying Yep, It looks like maybe this year isn't gonna be the result we hope for because we see the holes that we thought maybe we had patch them.
00:23:56
And now they're actually little more glaring on the defensive side coming to the season.
00:23:59
If you walked in saying we think we're the 22nd ranked defense and it turns out you're the 28th.
00:24:04
That's the difference of probably two wins during the year and the difference off losing in the first round versus getting a couple of wins in the playoffs.
00:24:11
So again, these air razor thin margins and arguably like a like a lot of the better run teams.
00:24:16
I think that the states are better suited to pivot off of this when the time comes, when you have Sean Payton as your head coach and when you have that type of structure there.
00:24:24
So again, you could be one of these worst teams.
00:24:26
Like, I think the Atlanta Falcons are in a very dangerous spot over the next couple of years.
00:24:31
I have a lot more confidence in the ST specifically because they brought in a guy like Jameis Winston, still a young quarterback.
00:24:37
You can see if you can coach him up and get some of those issues worked out, and then you have a big arm to still target those big weapons around you and probably on a much friendly or deal, because he's gonna have to go through ah, two or three year possible contract in order to prove again that he's worthy of a big deer.
00:24:52
That big deal down a line.
00:24:53
Excuse me on the other side of things, right? Go ahead.
00:24:56
So I was also going to say is I don't expect this Saints defense to be this bad as the year goes on one thing I want to remember both on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.
00:25:06
This is an older team that didn't have a full season of conditioning, and I know it sounds like an excuse, but I feel like this team is gonna keep heating up and getting warmer and warmer and warmer as the season goes on.
00:25:16
Because this is almost the identical defense that won five games with Teddy Bridgewater last year and it was all on their shoulders, and I just feel like at some point, that's all gonna come together for them and not unlike I just We just watched that I watch the CL Seahawks game, right? Do I think that that defense is gonna be a world beater by the end? Probably not, but again, a well run team that's known for having quality defense.
00:25:37
They're going to round into whatever the best version of themselves or by the end of the year, and you trust that they're going to get there On the flip side.
00:25:45
The Chargers, obviously as we know there's nothing funny about the injury that Tyrod Taylor suffered.
00:25:50
It is humorous that it was a almost self inflicted wound by a teammate that has now caused the Chargers toe.
00:25:57
Have to goto Herbert maybe sooner than they anticipated.
00:25:59
Lawrence, you mentioned.
00:26:01
You think that he was NFL ready, but the Chargers plan was to not rush him in.
00:26:06
Also because of where you are in the A F.
00:26:08
C.
00:26:09
You're not necessarily concerned about competing Year one.
00:26:11
And if you are concerned about competing right now, you think the Tyrod Taylor, a guy who usually plays relatively error free football, gives you the best chance.
00:26:18
What, have you seen the early from Herbert? What do you expect him to go through here over the next couple of games and all of the Saints? Maybe in line from a defensive perspective to expose some of those weaknesses that rookies always go through.
00:26:30
Oh, man, Justin Herberts actually been pretty pretty darn good.
00:26:35
Uh, in the three games that he's had, he's got 72.
00:26:37
Completion percentage is, uh, he's got a rating of 102 He's got those five touchdowns Now.
00:26:43
The thing that that worries a lot of people are the three interceptions.
00:26:46
One of those not wasn't necessarily his fault.
00:26:49
The other two were just I think they were rookie mistakes because he was not expecting the defense that he was seeing when he threw the football, which is one of the reasons why you would sit a quarterback so they could practice against Mawr.
00:27:08
Different types of defense is on on how, uh, different teams hide their defense.
00:27:14
Right, Ray? The Patriots are very good defensive team, you know that.
00:27:20
They do that to confuse quarterbacks all the time.
00:27:23
And when you're ah, a young quarterback, you don't see these things early on.
00:27:27
And that's, Ah, lot, a lot.
00:27:29
He's seen that a lot so far.
00:27:31
It's been a learning experience for him the last three years, three games, But I think he's gonna I think he's gonna be all right.
00:27:38
But the problem with Justin is what you see from him, I think, is his ceiling as when it comes to pure talent wise.
00:27:46
So he's coming in at a nice baseline, but also and and this is who he is, maybe more of a what a middle of the road quarterback as opposed Thio.
00:27:53
And in two or three years, you're going to see this guy really open it up.
00:27:57
Yeah, it's not like what you see what you would see from, um, Lamar Jackson, where you expect him to get better year for year or oh, even too, I expect once to a comes in.
00:28:12
I don't expect to see the best of two.
00:28:14
Uh, I expect to see the best of two a year. Three.
00:28:17
Um, but Herbert comes in at about his deadline.
00:28:23
Now he'll get better in a few things, like I said, reading defense's and stuff like that.
00:28:28
But I'll tell you what.
00:28:31
He's actually using his team offensively very, very well.
00:28:35
Keenan Allen, uh, by far is the number one receiving target that he's had 48 targets from him, and then the tide in Hunter.
00:28:45
Henry is the number two.
00:28:48
And then you come back to the running back, right in Austin, eh? Klar? Who, by the way, obviously sadly for them is not in this game because he's on IR.
00:28:57
But he's actually going to the correct targets on his reads, which is nice to see.
00:29:04
He looks deep and then comes down rather than starting down and working your way.
00:29:08
Deep Ray, comparing them relative to we're talking about some young quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.
00:29:14
Two guys that are behind that offensive lines and then also don't necessarily have some top flight weapons, especially the wide receiver position.
00:29:21
Beneficial.
00:29:22
If you're Justin Herbert toe, have a Keenan Allen there.
00:29:24
Even mentioned Lawrence Hunter Henry, another quality tight end.
00:29:28
Their offensive line is not the greatest, either, but it's a It's one of the more comfortable situations to come into and go back to last year.
00:29:35
Not a terrible defense, either.
00:29:36
The charges are a fairly balanced team they removed trending in the right direction.
00:29:43
Is that a part of why Herbert ableto have some early success here? Yeah.
00:29:48
I mean, he's got the 18th ranked offensive line.
00:29:51
Nothing greats, but nothing awful, you know, kind of, you know, right there, Top 20.
00:29:57
Yeah, having the weapons is absolutely important for him and his growth, and he walked into a good situation.
00:30:04
But I do disagree with you a little bit, Lawrence about his growth.
00:30:07
I don't think that this is the base and this is what we're going to see going forward.
00:30:11
I know that a quarterback doesn't play the other quarterback and they play the other team's defense, But trust me when guys were standing on the sidelines.
00:30:18
They're watching their opponents.
00:30:20
This guy, in the last three weeks to start his career, went toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady.
00:30:26
He lost by seven.
00:30:27
He lost by three, Um had a chance against Carolina, made a bad interception bad pass, something toe, learn from, came back against Tampa and look like it didn't shake him at all.
00:30:39
Um, I love this kid's character.
00:30:42
I think that he is, Um, I think that as he grows, we're going to Seymour out of him.
00:30:48
And I absolutely love the comparison to Daniel Jones because I think if you put Daniel Jones in the same situation in L.
00:30:54
A, we see the same thing out of him.
00:30:56
Daniel Jones, through a beautiful touchdown, passed yesterday.
00:30:59
It was a beautiful arch, and he just got torn apart on Twitter, and I don't know why, you know, like it Z um, and I think also playing for the Chargers, who is a for gotten team that nobody's really paying attention to online or in the media.
00:31:13
You could just quietly go about your business and get better and better.
00:31:17
I mean, that whole Tyrod Taylor situation.
00:31:19
Imagine if that happened anywhere else.
00:31:21
How big, you know, besides, maybe Arizona, how big of a story that would have been and that kind of just kind of, you know, you know, when under the radar.
00:31:29
And I know it's not funny, but it is funny.
00:31:31
I made lots of jokes about it.
00:31:32
You know, I said, That's what you get for hiring a doctor named Herbert E S.
00:31:38
So he's gonna be okay.
00:31:40
Once I knew he was fine, you start making the jokes.
00:31:43
That's how it always works with the best comedian comedic timing around the NFL.
00:31:48
Yeah, I think it's interesting and again product of situation, product of cir***stance.
00:31:52
And that's why you wonder now, Herbert, getting a nice little taste, gets his feet wet in the NFL and gets a chance to get some experience so that next year, when you feel like all right, let's see how you develop you.
00:32:02
Now have those those little bit of training wheels come off as you look to build around there in L. A.
00:32:07
The game has, as we say, we move into the final phase.
00:32:11
Friends, plus 7.
00:32:12
5 year for the Chargers taking on the Saints.
00:32:15
Ray, we'll start with you.
00:32:16
Do you like that line? Are you dancing? Are you dancing with it and saying Give me those points and I'll take the charges to get themselves that win and maybe at least theoretically, still be in the division where you saw obviously the Chiefs lose that close one last week.
00:32:30
I'm taking the points because I believe this is gonna be a close game.
00:32:34
Now, unfortunately, they're gonna take the L on the score sheet where they care about.
00:32:37
They don't care how things end up in Vegas, but anybody who's betting on this game, I'll get my score prediction after.
00:32:44
But it's not coming close to 7.5.
00:32:46
Um, I think it's gonna be a very tight game between two, I think mildly underrated teams Lawrence about for you.
00:32:53
Well, it depends.
00:32:54
I have not been able to find out whether or not Joey Bosa was playing or not.
00:33:00
That's a factor that is a massive factor.
00:33:04
If both of plays, uh, that's gonna be a issue big time when it comes to pass rush, especially with um, other people on the team, such as Melvin Ingram and I are both and Hillary have been really the big pass rush guys.
00:33:24
And if both is not there, I don't know if Hillary can continue being the guy that he's been the last few weeks listed as questionable.
00:33:32
Let's assume, unless you get unless you get elevates a doubtful coming in the day before the game, you assume that he'll be available.
00:33:39
So let's just say that.
00:33:40
Did you see that, right? Anything updated? Their, uh, no joy.
00:33:44
Right now he's still questionable.
00:33:45
Okay, so let's assume, let's just assuming that he does play Lawrence Then Then where do you land on it? I'll be right with Ray.
00:33:52
Exactly.
00:33:53
With Ray.
00:33:54
I think it will probably be like a three or four point game, and I think the Saints win.
00:33:59
But it'll be a close one in that situation.
00:34:03
At 50.
00:34:04
5 over under.
00:34:06
Let's go ahead and say it.
00:34:07
Lawrence, what is that point prediction that they get in between there? Yeah.
00:34:11
So you guys, Joey Bosa is not inactive for today.
00:34:14
There you go.
00:34:15
So he will be available.
00:34:16
That can have a nice impact and maybe a couple of key plays there against Drew Brees.
00:34:20
50.
00:34:21
5 the over under Lawrence.
00:34:22
What is that prediction where they come close enough, but just narrowly fall short against the Saints? Do they still hit the over at 50 points? No, I'm I'm going under.
00:34:33
I don't I don't the same.
00:34:35
The chargers have alright defense, especially with Bosa and Hillary.
00:34:39
Like I said on that line, um, I three only issue I have is man Derwin James.
00:34:48
Being gone really hurts.
00:34:50
Chris Harris obviously really hurts.
00:34:52
Um, but Desmond King has came in, played very, very well.
00:34:57
And Perriman, I think I think the Saints defense will come in and play a little bit better than what they have the last.
00:35:07
Well, the first four games that they played.
00:35:09
Believe it or not, I don't I don't see this game going over, uh, 45.
00:35:14
I think this is gonna be like a 21 17 24 20.
00:35:20
We'll call it 21 17.
00:35:22
You got that kind of world there, right? Uh, no.
00:35:25
Um, it's without giving my score prediction away.
00:35:29
They're gonna get the over by a point and a half, so I'm going with the over on 50.5.
00:35:35
All right, so then you're living in a nice little listen, you take the point.
00:35:39
Let's call you 28. 23.
00:35:41
Something maybe around that kind of range.
00:35:43
I can I can pin you down right? If I need Thio.
00:35:45
Listen, Ray made a very strong case around.
00:35:49
First of all, we know.
00:35:50
No Michael Thomas.
00:35:51
We know that Emmanuel Sanders isn't quite showing up.
00:35:52
The way you hope it all really to me is gonna be predicated around camera and his success against the Chargers defense.
00:35:57
Now, this can be a show up game for the Saints on the defensive side of the ball.
00:36:02
I'm enticed.
00:36:03
I'm in the same boat of I'll take those points and I'll take the Chargers.
00:36:06
I probably lean towards taking the over a swell, but I came so close to doing it with Martin last time and taking the Bears in that game over Tampa Bay.
00:36:14
I'm right on the edge.
00:36:16
I'm right on the edge.
00:36:17
Is they want a interest.
00:36:19
I want to throw an interesting stat at you before you make a decision in this.
00:36:22
So right now the Chargers are sitting 11th in the league for run offense, right? For for yards collected, they're Devi away their 27th in the league.
00:36:33
Um, you don't get those discrepancies very often, but when I did the math, the math actually worked itself out.
00:36:42
Which tells me that their yards per game is over.
00:36:45
Achieving what? This odd what this run offense really is for the Chargers.
00:36:50
They're also going up against one of the best run defense in the league tonight.
00:36:54
Which is it that's gonna make things very, very interesting.
00:36:59
Was absolutely zero help from anything, Rages told me. I will take the over.
00:37:03
I'll still say Take the charge of the points, but I will call for a Saints victory in this one.
00:37:06
I just came to me, came to me very organically, very natural, very instinctual guy on the broadcast.
00:37:12
Listen, we are coming up on how about 20 minutes off the top of the hour.
00:37:16
So just about 35 minutes until game time, we did a darn thing.
00:37:20
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00:37:21
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00:37:25
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Falcons fire special teams coach who presided over onside kick debacle vs Cowboys

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank is continuing to clean house. On Monday afternoon, the Falcons fired special teams coordinator Ben Kotwica, per NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero. The #Falcons have fired special teams coordinator Ben Kotwica. — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 12, 2020 Earlier in the day, Atlanta parted ways with head coach Dan Quinn and […]

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00:00:22
And with that, we officially welcome you into the Monday Night Football preview right here on SportsCastr along myself.
00:00:29
Adam are indirect.
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Ray Ralph and Laurence Owen.
00:00:31
Fellas, how you doing on at least in my neck of the woods? A rainy Monday evening? Pretty good.
00:00:38
How you doing? Yeah, it's raining here to going in here.
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All right, listen. Good.
00:00:44
Then we're all in the same pot together.
00:00:45
Listen, we come in ahead of what hopefully is going to be a nice matchup between the Chargers and the Saints before we dive fully into that game and what our expectations are in general.
00:00:55
I think last time I was living with the two of you, we talked about the Atlanta Falcons.
00:00:59
We talked about the situation that looked like it was trending in a bad direction.
00:01:03
And then following the loss there, the Carolina Panthers, they officially make a move ahead.
00:01:07
Coach Lawrence, let's start with you.
00:01:09
Surprised, shocked, bewildered by Atlanta's decision to move on.
00:01:14
Why would I have any kind of shocked? Believe any of that that you just said, Uh, this is the same kind of thing with with o Brien.
00:01:23
I'm neither.
00:01:24
Neither fan base wanted either cut coach for years now, years, and it's just been we have all this talent and aren't able to do anything with it.
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We need someone out there that can actually mold this talent in tow, winning games.
00:01:40
And when you start off Oh, and five fully crap, man, and you got Jones and this offense for the Falcons.
00:01:49
I don't care what the Yes, okay, they were able to put up some points on some teams, but look at the teams that they were putting up against.
00:01:59
Everybody was putting points up against those teams, right? So, yeah, I'm I think it's past due.
00:02:05
I think both the head coach firings that we've seen over the past week has most definitely been past due Ray Arthur Blank.
00:02:15
They're considered to be one of the better.
00:02:16
Better owners in the league likes to do right by his team.
00:02:20
What's the mismanagement there may be in terms of having such a high powered offense and then clearly being so short handed on the defensive side of the ball, you got Matt Ryan entering the latter stages of his career.
00:02:31
Lawrence mentions Jones.
00:02:33
You got Calvin Ridley, you got weapons you brought in Todd Gurley? What did they not? What do they not connect the dots on prior to coming into the season where you thought you released gonna be competitive, right? They didn't connect the dots in 2016 when it was the best team they ever had and blew a Super Bowl.
00:02:49
And I'm not bringing that up because I'm a Patriots fan.
00:02:51
I'm really not.
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The Falcons are on the tail end of this era.
00:02:58
Um, it's very difficult when your top players were starting to make top money to have both a balanced offense and a balance defense.
00:03:07
You have to do it in an era when you have young people performing for very little money.
00:03:14
When you look at a team like the Kansas City Chiefs who won the Super Bowl with the quarterback, that was making what a million and a half dollars.
00:03:21
Right now he's gonna be making 23 24 25 27 $30 million.
00:03:27
That changes your cap situation.
00:03:29
That doesn't allow you to if we use Kansas City to have Tyreek, Hill, Sammy, Watkins, Travis, Kelsey and all of them, all on the same team and in Kansas City is gonna experience what Atlanta has now experiencing this year, and we already started seeing it Nat last year.
00:03:47
You can't The only way to make this work is to absolutely hit on every single draft pick that you make, and that's virtually impossible.
00:03:58
No team has every hit hit on every draft pick, and I'll use the New England Patriots is an example.
00:04:05
Yes, they've been sustainably good for 20 years, but they want a lot of close games where the defense didn't play well or you go back to 2018 where the defense carry them through, or last year, where the defense carried them through to the playoffs.
00:04:20
But when you can't, you couldn't have both units clicking all the way together.
00:04:23
A salary start to rise, and that's where Atlanta went.
00:04:26
As for the firing didn't shock me.
00:04:29
We talked about it, I said, if he loses another game, I was surprised when they went, 014 that his job wasn't in jeopardy.
00:04:35
Arthur Blank said today that Arthur Blank said today that going into this season, Dan Quinn agreed that this was an all or nothing season.
00:04:43
So far, it's been nothing.
00:04:45
The move had to be made.
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Just disagreed.
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Yes, I agree.
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It's all or nothing.
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I'm going with nothing.
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I'm approaching this season from nothing standpoint.
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The an interesting.
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So we talk about Houston, makes that switch as well.
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They already have and are paying.
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Now they're young quarterback there.
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Matt Ryan coming again to the back end of his career.
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Atlanta could at least feasibly, though, being a really great position to finish out the rest of this season, being bad on defense, being whatever, you're gonna be probably at least closer to the hot top end of things on the offensive side of the ball and then fall into potentially the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes there at the top of the draft.
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So from that standpoint, Lawrence, they may actually luck themselves into the thing that Ray mentions.
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You didn't capitalize back in 2016 and then you still chose to stay pot committed and then over commit on some of these contracts, you may be able to quickly turn the tables back here and get a young young quarterback under contract on a rookie deal, and then you can balance back out the defensive side.
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So Atlanta could get more competitive.
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Ah, lot sooner than maybe you think from the outside.
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Well, it's possible.
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Um, but there are multiple teams right now that is in a race, apparently for Trevor Lawrence.
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And let's not let's not make the assumption that quarterback is going to fix everything for this Atlanta Falcons team.
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Their defense is awful.
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Awful.
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There they are going to need a good corner out there.
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Uh, they're going to need some pass rush in some interior help.
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They have holes on that defense that absolutely needs to be filled.
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And I mean, like, Ray said earlier, unless you're hitting on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th round draft picks, your early on draft, picks your money, draft picks, then it's not gonna help you long term.
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And so, yeah, having Trevor Lawrence on that team is gonna be awesome if they if they even get him.
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But, my goodness, I mean, yeah, well, if this team puts up 30 points a game, fine.
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But if they can't stop the other team from from scoring 35 you're losing every game.
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Look at the Dallas Cowboys, right? All that offense, great, everything across the board, but they can't stop a nosebleed.
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So, you know, I mean, they got to start hitting somewhere.
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Besides, just, you know, the guaranteed first pick that they would be granted if they had the worst record the NFL before we move off of it.
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Right? Go ahead.
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Right? Yeah.
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Atlanta has, like, the 31st worst pass defense in the NFL, right? And that that's a problem.
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And you know, Atlanta to coaching is an issue beyond just the talent they have on this team.
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If you think back to that, they shouldn't be on five number one.
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At the very least, it should be one and four.
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Not knowing the rules of an onside kick is 100% on coaching if it's one guy that doesn't know the rule, Okay, you've got an idiot on your team when you've got eight guys watching the football, not knowing to jump on it.
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That's not being prepared for an onside kick.
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And you know what? Preseason has nothing to do with defending an on side kick.
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Eso you can't blame it on a lack of preparation, and I mean the onside kick rule or something.
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I think we learn and you know well in the States because of Pop Warner.
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Here we have the call a little League.
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So it Z coaching was an issue.
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And also look at it, too, though, that they had gone up against some of the higher, especially early in the season.
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Higher powered scoring quarterbacks and teams.
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So you'd also expected defense.
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That's not classified.
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Elite it all to get beat up on a little bit last night before we do move off that Ray Matt Ryan, who's under contract till 2024.
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Let's say they do bought him out and they're sitting at the top of the draft.
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Is there a team? Or if you are a team around the NFL who has an opening at the quarterback position, is there value there for Atlanta to say we can move this player off and maybe get back some more of those shots in the draft to replenish, replenish their roster? Or is Matt Ryan looked at a guy that's making too much money for what the return on investment is? Yeah, having the contract is the issue.
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I think Atlanta's gonna have to eat some contract.
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This isn't a Philip Rivers situation where he was, you know, a free agent.
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I think if the Colts had the choice, they might look at Matt Ryan over Philip Rivers when they're signing a quarterback.
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But not from Matt Ryan type of money.
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Um, I think the only way they could move him is if they eat some of that salary cap from another team.
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And that's not going up, is the cap it for them.
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Which then eliminates the advantage that Atlanta gets by moving on from Matt Ryan.
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All you've done now is moved on from Matt Ryan.
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You're still eating cap.
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If I'm Atlanta and I'm in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, as you said, I'm keeping Matt Ryan.
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Andi, I'm telling Matt Ryan, you're guaranteed starter at least for one season until you know we start into the back end of that contract and Trevor Lawrence is gonna play behind you and, you know, yeah, the same approach the Kansas City took with this kid Patrick Mahomes, who sat behind Alex Smith for a year.
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Or, you know, yeah, I heard some good things right.
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Or the approach that they tried to take in Baltimore, where the this other kid, Lamar Jackson, sat behind Joe Flacco.
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You know, Brady sat behind his blood.
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So, guy, you know, they all sat all the greats, kind of sad.
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I know Peyton started right away, but most of them sat, you know? Yeah, and grew up alone behind Brady, you know, like it's it's so it's not a bad thing for Trevor Lawrence to learn how to be a professional before he becomes a professional, as we're gonna turn our attention to the Saints and Chargers game. Lawrence.
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But are you of the newer old school mentality when it comes to quarterbacks and grooming them? A lot of teams now, usually, when you're bad, you throw the young quarterback into the fire, because who cares? You're gonna be bad either way, getting the reps.
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But can you poison Ah, young quarterback by getting in there too soon, especially on bad rosters.
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Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.
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The example.
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It'll Herbert tonight in this game is going to be getting reps.
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He's looks pretty good early and flashed, But are you running the risk of ruining a young talent if your team around them isn't strong enough like that's the part of it? All right? There are two.
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You can do it both ways.
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It really depends upon the quarterback that you drafted right has a lot to do with the mentality of the quarterback. I think.
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Herbert, what's NFL ready? When he came out, I think Herberts, one of those guys that could have came out and started right away, However, guys like to, uh, I think needed to send for a while.
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Guys like Dwayne Haskins should have sat for a while.
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Uh, there are.
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It just depends Upon the college.
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They played the type of, uh, NFL offense and the head coach and the coaching they had throughout college.
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That kind of stuff that they the decides on.
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Whether or not this is a player that can handle the NFL walking right out, not just the speed of its stuff like it's all the mental reps, the stuff that that goes on, um, when you lose, when when when you win, how you handle the media, how you handle everything.
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You know that that's something that is player to player base When it comes to the quarterback position.
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I also think it's the expectation that the team has so, for instance, when Joe Burrow was drafted everybody kind of said Joe Burrow doesn't fix all the problems in Cincinnati.
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So if they would know in 16 nobody would look at Joe Burrow and say, Oh, he's a draft bust.
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You know, um, they would look at his individual play.
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Daniel Jones, on the other hand, who was criticized or the Giants were criticized highly for drafting Daniel Jones, never should have seen the second of the field.
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Not because I don't think the kid couldn't handle it, because, unfortunately, Giants fans always have higher expectations.
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Giants Media always has higher expectations, and they really thought when they benched Dely, he was going to come in and make them a truly competitive team.
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All that kids done is fail, not as him the team, but he's only failed since coming to that team.
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And I think that the Giants could have ruined Daniel Jones, and I said when they drafted him.
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Don't let that kid take the field this first year.
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You don't have a chance in the footnote there.
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Is that to your point, Lawrence, right, where they coming from? What are they playing in college system? You can look at the film on Daniel Jones and get excited about his fundamentals and what you think.
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He projects Thio.
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But he played a Duke, and the competition level is different than playing at USC or playing in one of the big the big colleges.
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So that's another great push in the direction of saying Acknowledge that you're bad If you're the New York Giants, let Eli Manning stay around for another year.
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You don't have to force him into retirement regardless of what you think he has left or not.
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And just save Daniel Jones from having to go through what he's going through right now and to your point.
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Ray, the media fan base turning on him already.
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And it's regardless of what he's doing or not doing well.
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It's all about still this weird mechanism of we're supposed to have turned a corner here, even if player by player position by position, we're one of the worst teams in the league.
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That's just New York media, right? That's the idea.
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Well, no, you should be able to compete the very next season. You go three and 13.
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You should be a playoff team the next year, and that's few and far between that.
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Those examples exist where teams can truly turn it around that quickly into tonight's match up we go where there's a veteran quarterback.
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We mentioned the rookie, the young player in Justin Herbert, and then you got Drew Brees.
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On the other side of it, the New Orleans Saints come out maybe a little bit sluggish to start the year.
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A little bit surprising.
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Unfortunately, Drew Brees will be without his main weapon, at least from a receiving standpoint, in Michael Thomas as he's getting suspended for punching a teammate in the head of practice.
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Always a ah, good thing to hear out of out of the weekly news around a particular team.
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Has Michael Thomas been paying attention to Baltimore Ravens safeties or something? I don't understand this.
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It takes his cues, look around the league and takes his cues from whatever makes sense to him.
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What Lawrence, What have you seen early? They started to use Camara much more effectively as we've seen them do in the past.
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Are you concerned about Drew Brees and how he's looked early in the season? Do you think that he still has enough there for them to round into form and make a deep playoff run.
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Or are you seeing him age kind of before our eyes? Actually, yeah, I think we started seeing him age a little bit about midway through last season.
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Um, we started to see that quite a bit.
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And it's just been kind of rolling mortem or and more.
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And I think that was part of the reason why the Saints went ahead and went and got another quarterback.
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That's got a cannon this complete opposite of what you expect from Drew Brees, right? I mean, Drew Brees is that safe? Throw it to whoever is open real quick.
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Read the defense, and then the guy they got is I'm gonna throw it whoever is downfield by the end zone.
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I don't care about my my my own 10 yard line.
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I'm gonna throw it out there, and hopefully someone will come down with it.
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Don't care if it's my team or the other team.
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Exactly.
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Uh, that that's how media and ah lot of fan bases view him anyhow.
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But really, we could see Drew Brees end up kind of losing some of his snaps as the season starts.
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I would not be surprised to see James.
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It drew, and this passing offense is still consistently going through Alvin Kamara, which is scary when when they got supposedly all these other weapons, obviously, Michael Thomas not being there, it would not hurt to see a few snaps like you've seen from Taysom Hill from Jamis Winston every once in a while, just to see what he could do.
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Ray way and listen.
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I didn't throw it out.
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There is a gotcha question, but just wondering about where is Ruby at this point. His career.
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He has thrown for eight touchdowns, two interceptions.
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He's completing 71% of his passes 1000 yards on the year that the stat lines were good and in that division where Tampa Bay just lost, even though Carolina one you win tonight and you're in a three way tie at the top of it, is there a risk of losing the quality of this team? Overall, withdrew Pisa quarterback.
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Do you think that's being a little bit overblown? Maybe akin to the way Tom Brady was looked at early in this year with Tampa Bay.
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New system, new cast of characters it seems like he is also rounding in the form I think that okay, there's a couple of different points.
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I think that it's and Drew Brees is probably taking the most criticism on the Saints team.
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There's a magic number and that magic number is 30.8.
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And that's a significant number because that's the identical number of points that the New Orleans Saints score per game and the amount of points that they concede per game.
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Um, right in that sweet spot where you have a razor thin margin to win? Yes, so it's, you know, it's it's that's where it is.
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Um, listen, when you look at the yards to, I think it's their 17th in the league. Overall.
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Um, as Lawrence knows, I'm an ****ytic guy to their D v.
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O.
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A.
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Is eighth overall in the NFL, Um, and and some of that is because of a whole bunch of different things.
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Does Drew Brees look like Drew Brees from two years ago? Absolutely not.
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Are they better with Jameis Winston at quarterback? I can't say that they could be, um, I don't look at this offense and say That's the problem on this team.
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Your defense is 28th in the league for points against your offense is fifth in the league for points. Four.
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Um the thing is, though, as football fans and I think sports fans in general, we love scapegoats, right? We could never just look at a unit and say, It's this.
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Units falter.
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Maybe the Saints played a better team at some point.
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No, it has to be Drew Brees problem that the defense is giving up, you know, 31 points a game, right? It can't just be that two teams got together in one team. Lost.
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It has to be.
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You didn't win that game.
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The other team cost.
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It's specifically around this player.
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I'm not saying that the defense don't need help.
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What I'm saying is specifically looking at Drew Brees when you're number one.
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Receiver is not only your running back, but you're number.
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But that running back has mawr than twice Aziz, many receptions than the number two receiver on your team.
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I think that's a problem, layer deeper before we look over at the Chargers, Did the Saints fail? I mean, we just talked about inside that same division, the Atlanta Falcons.
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Okay, you're this past heavy or offensively driven team.
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Your defense is not good.
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And even though I know 28 but you're far worse.
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Even in the Saints defense currently is.
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Do you think that there's a failure there around? Once you start to collect these pieces, you get the Michael Thomas, you get the camera, you have Drew Brees.
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You kind of get locked into becoming this offensive team.
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And we know, go back.
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Over the years when New Orleans has bubbled up with the quality defense, then they've been ableto have their deeper playoff runs, and typically it costs you to not have a least a middle of the road defense in order to get over the NFC Championship hump and find you find your way into a Super Bowl.
00:19:50
Drew Brees.
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What they've been there only is the only been there once, maybe twice in his career.
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I don't wanna I don't misquoted you know you for what Drew Brees is, and for what these weapons are, you would think you'd be having more success should they have pivoted at some point along the way here and try to to raise point.
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Let's be the 10th best offense and let's be the 17th ranked defense and that's actually going to be better for us when it comes to playoff time.
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Yeah, listen, I get what you're saying, and they had to focus on on the defense more than they did, but I think very much like Atlanta, they pigeon holed themselves into a situation where they had to go with their strength.
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There's a lot of disappointment on this.
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This offense, when you look at it, should be averaging 35 points a game.
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Now They brought in Emmanuel Sanders this year.
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Who has? Sorry, I just looked at the stat because I knew it was awful.
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He has 182 receiving yards this season.
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He has 28 YAC yards.
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20.
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He is averaging 1.
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3 yards per.
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You know after the catch.
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And he's supposed to be a specialist in Yes, he's supposed to be a specialist in the back.
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You haven't had Michael Thomas since week one cooks, I believe Mr Game or two, you know.
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And when he's there, he's banged up.
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Breeze has missed a lot of his weapons.
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Yeah, Sean Payton put all of that.
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I forget what the GM name is, but they put all of their eggs in one basket by bringing back breeze.
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Um, I think of what? I'm a little disappointed.
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It is.
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Drew Brees came back as a free agent said that he was coming in tow, win a Super Bowl, and he took a pretty big contract to do that. Right.
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Um, if you're really at 40 years old coming back because you want one more go in a Super Bowl and it's not about money, take 15 year.
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You know what I mean and and build yourself a Super Bowl team because this defense is a problem.
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And you think about I'm Actually, I look at a guy like Drew Brees.
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And yes, he doesn't look like Drew Brees of yesteryear.
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But I'm thinking you've played it without your best receiver.
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Your best tight end banged up, and you're specialist who can't get any YAC yards.
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And yet you're still putting up 30.
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8, you know, 31 points per game.
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Um, you should have taken 15 and put some money into that defense.
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I wanna know just Yeah, they're they're scoring plenty of points.
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Their defense is giving up plenty of points, but there's some players are their game in game out, and I've just completely disappeared.
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And I'm curious as to know, Is this a coaching thing? Or is this, um, Drew Brees? Because go look Taysom Hill, who is so good at doing a lot of things.
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He's not like the best at doing any one thing, but he's very good at doing many things.
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But he only had 10 carries in three targets through the air through four games.
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And I would think that someone of tastings skill set would get looked at at least a lot more often.
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Um, but I haven't looked at the film.
00:23:01
I don't know.
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I don't even know if he's on the field to get those targets.
00:23:04
Well, I mean, maybe it's a race point, though, to when you have a camera.
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I mean, first of all, when you have Michael Thomas and he's on the field, well, then you're going to write when you have that true number one.
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You're giving him the polka targets because you know it maximizes our chance toe win.
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If he gets more touches.
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Likewise with the camera.
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Listen, we only have a tight window with running backs.
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We know they're gonna burn out eventually.
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So we're also going to go ahead and pile on to this guy and use them in both phases of the game to again maximizes value.
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Now, just from a philosophical standpoint, I think you always want to be a balanced offense and balance defense as well, right? You want to spread out your talent.
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But I think I think, Ray, it rings true when you say you don't realize three years ahead of time that you're walking into pigeonholing yourself, it's only that then you're there.
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And now and now you're saying Yep, It looks like maybe this year isn't gonna be the result we hope for because we see the holes that we thought maybe we had patch them.
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And now they're actually little more glaring on the defensive side coming to the season.
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If you walked in saying we think we're the 22nd ranked defense and it turns out you're the 28th.
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That's the difference of probably two wins during the year and the difference off losing in the first round versus getting a couple of wins in the playoffs.
00:24:11
So again, these air razor thin margins and arguably like a like a lot of the better run teams.
00:24:16
I think that the states are better suited to pivot off of this when the time comes, when you have Sean Payton as your head coach and when you have that type of structure there.
00:24:24
So again, you could be one of these worst teams.
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Like, I think the Atlanta Falcons are in a very dangerous spot over the next couple of years.
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I have a lot more confidence in the ST specifically because they brought in a guy like Jameis Winston, still a young quarterback.
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You can see if you can coach him up and get some of those issues worked out, and then you have a big arm to still target those big weapons around you and probably on a much friendly or deal, because he's gonna have to go through ah, two or three year possible contract in order to prove again that he's worthy of a big deer.
00:24:52
That big deal down a line.
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Excuse me on the other side of things, right? Go ahead.
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So I was also going to say is I don't expect this Saints defense to be this bad as the year goes on one thing I want to remember both on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.
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This is an older team that didn't have a full season of conditioning, and I know it sounds like an excuse, but I feel like this team is gonna keep heating up and getting warmer and warmer and warmer as the season goes on.
00:25:16
Because this is almost the identical defense that won five games with Teddy Bridgewater last year and it was all on their shoulders, and I just feel like at some point, that's all gonna come together for them and not unlike I just We just watched that I watch the CL Seahawks game, right? Do I think that that defense is gonna be a world beater by the end? Probably not, but again, a well run team that's known for having quality defense.
00:25:37
They're going to round into whatever the best version of themselves or by the end of the year, and you trust that they're going to get there On the flip side.
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The Chargers, obviously as we know there's nothing funny about the injury that Tyrod Taylor suffered.
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It is humorous that it was a almost self inflicted wound by a teammate that has now caused the Chargers toe.
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Have to goto Herbert maybe sooner than they anticipated.
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Lawrence, you mentioned.
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You think that he was NFL ready, but the Chargers plan was to not rush him in.
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Also because of where you are in the A F.
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C.
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You're not necessarily concerned about competing Year one.
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And if you are concerned about competing right now, you think the Tyrod Taylor, a guy who usually plays relatively error free football, gives you the best chance.
00:26:18
What, have you seen the early from Herbert? What do you expect him to go through here over the next couple of games and all of the Saints? Maybe in line from a defensive perspective to expose some of those weaknesses that rookies always go through.
00:26:30
Oh, man, Justin Herberts actually been pretty pretty darn good.
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Uh, in the three games that he's had, he's got 72.
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Completion percentage is, uh, he's got a rating of 102 He's got those five touchdowns Now.
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The thing that that worries a lot of people are the three interceptions.
00:26:46
One of those not wasn't necessarily his fault.
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The other two were just I think they were rookie mistakes because he was not expecting the defense that he was seeing when he threw the football, which is one of the reasons why you would sit a quarterback so they could practice against Mawr.
00:27:08
Different types of defense is on on how, uh, different teams hide their defense.
00:27:14
Right, Ray? The Patriots are very good defensive team, you know that.
00:27:20
They do that to confuse quarterbacks all the time.
00:27:23
And when you're ah, a young quarterback, you don't see these things early on.
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And that's, Ah, lot, a lot.
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He's seen that a lot so far.
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It's been a learning experience for him the last three years, three games, But I think he's gonna I think he's gonna be all right.
00:27:38
But the problem with Justin is what you see from him, I think, is his ceiling as when it comes to pure talent wise.
00:27:46
So he's coming in at a nice baseline, but also and and this is who he is, maybe more of a what a middle of the road quarterback as opposed Thio.
00:27:53
And in two or three years, you're going to see this guy really open it up.
00:27:57
Yeah, it's not like what you see what you would see from, um, Lamar Jackson, where you expect him to get better year for year or oh, even too, I expect once to a comes in.
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I don't expect to see the best of two.
00:28:14
Uh, I expect to see the best of two a year. Three.
00:28:17
Um, but Herbert comes in at about his deadline.
00:28:23
Now he'll get better in a few things, like I said, reading defense's and stuff like that.
00:28:28
But I'll tell you what.
00:28:31
He's actually using his team offensively very, very well.
00:28:35
Keenan Allen, uh, by far is the number one receiving target that he's had 48 targets from him, and then the tide in Hunter.
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Henry is the number two.
00:28:48
And then you come back to the running back, right in Austin, eh? Klar? Who, by the way, obviously sadly for them is not in this game because he's on IR.
00:28:57
But he's actually going to the correct targets on his reads, which is nice to see.
00:29:04
He looks deep and then comes down rather than starting down and working your way.
00:29:08
Deep Ray, comparing them relative to we're talking about some young quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, Sam Donald.
00:29:14
Two guys that are behind that offensive lines and then also don't necessarily have some top flight weapons, especially the wide receiver position.
00:29:21
Beneficial.
00:29:22
If you're Justin Herbert toe, have a Keenan Allen there.
00:29:24
Even mentioned Lawrence Hunter Henry, another quality tight end.
00:29:28
Their offensive line is not the greatest, either, but it's a It's one of the more comfortable situations to come into and go back to last year.
00:29:35
Not a terrible defense, either.
00:29:36
The charges are a fairly balanced team they removed trending in the right direction.
00:29:43
Is that a part of why Herbert ableto have some early success here? Yeah.
00:29:48
I mean, he's got the 18th ranked offensive line.
00:29:51
Nothing greats, but nothing awful, you know, kind of, you know, right there, Top 20.
00:29:57
Yeah, having the weapons is absolutely important for him and his growth, and he walked into a good situation.
00:30:04
But I do disagree with you a little bit, Lawrence about his growth.
00:30:07
I don't think that this is the base and this is what we're going to see going forward.
00:30:11
I know that a quarterback doesn't play the other quarterback and they play the other team's defense, But trust me when guys were standing on the sidelines.
00:30:18
They're watching their opponents.
00:30:20
This guy, in the last three weeks to start his career, went toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady.
00:30:26
He lost by seven.
00:30:27
He lost by three, Um had a chance against Carolina, made a bad interception bad pass, something toe, learn from, came back against Tampa and look like it didn't shake him at all.
00:30:39
Um, I love this kid's character.
00:30:42
I think that he is, Um, I think that as he grows, we're going to Seymour out of him.
00:30:48
And I absolutely love the comparison to Daniel Jones because I think if you put Daniel Jones in the same situation in L.
00:30:54
A, we see the same thing out of him.
00:30:56
Daniel Jones, through a beautiful touchdown, passed yesterday.
00:30:59
It was a beautiful arch, and he just got torn apart on Twitter, and I don't know why, you know, like it Z um, and I think also playing for the Chargers, who is a for gotten team that nobody's really paying attention to online or in the media.
00:31:13
You could just quietly go about your business and get better and better.
00:31:17
I mean, that whole Tyrod Taylor situation.
00:31:19
Imagine if that happened anywhere else.
00:31:21
How big, you know, besides, maybe Arizona, how big of a story that would have been and that kind of just kind of, you know, you know, when under the radar.
00:31:29
And I know it's not funny, but it is funny.
00:31:31
I made lots of jokes about it.
00:31:32
You know, I said, That's what you get for hiring a doctor named Herbert E S.
00:31:38
So he's gonna be okay.
00:31:40
Once I knew he was fine, you start making the jokes.
00:31:43
That's how it always works with the best comedian comedic timing around the NFL.
00:31:48
Yeah, I think it's interesting and again product of situation, product of cir***stance.
00:31:52
And that's why you wonder now, Herbert, getting a nice little taste, gets his feet wet in the NFL and gets a chance to get some experience so that next year, when you feel like all right, let's see how you develop you.
00:32:02
Now have those those little bit of training wheels come off as you look to build around there in L. A.
00:32:07
The game has, as we say, we move into the final phase.
00:32:11
Friends, plus 7.
00:32:12
5 year for the Chargers taking on the Saints.
00:32:15
Ray, we'll start with you.
00:32:16
Do you like that line? Are you dancing? Are you dancing with it and saying Give me those points and I'll take the charges to get themselves that win and maybe at least theoretically, still be in the division where you saw obviously the Chiefs lose that close one last week.
00:32:30
I'm taking the points because I believe this is gonna be a close game.
00:32:34
Now, unfortunately, they're gonna take the L on the score sheet where they care about.
00:32:37
They don't care how things end up in Vegas, but anybody who's betting on this game, I'll get my score prediction after.
00:32:44
But it's not coming close to 7.5.
00:32:46
Um, I think it's gonna be a very tight game between two, I think mildly underrated teams Lawrence about for you.
00:32:53
Well, it depends.
00:32:54
I have not been able to find out whether or not Joey Bosa was playing or not.
00:33:00
That's a factor that is a massive factor.
00:33:04
If both of plays, uh, that's gonna be a issue big time when it comes to pass rush, especially with um, other people on the team, such as Melvin Ingram and I are both and Hillary have been really the big pass rush guys.
00:33:24
And if both is not there, I don't know if Hillary can continue being the guy that he's been the last few weeks listed as questionable.
00:33:32
Let's assume, unless you get unless you get elevates a doubtful coming in the day before the game, you assume that he'll be available.
00:33:39
So let's just say that.
00:33:40
Did you see that, right? Anything updated? Their, uh, no joy.
00:33:44
Right now he's still questionable.
00:33:45
Okay, so let's assume, let's just assuming that he does play Lawrence Then Then where do you land on it? I'll be right with Ray.
00:33:52
Exactly.
00:33:53
With Ray.
00:33:54
I think it will probably be like a three or four point game, and I think the Saints win.
00:33:59
But it'll be a close one in that situation.
00:34:03
At 50.
00:34:04
5 over under.
00:34:06
Let's go ahead and say it.
00:34:07
Lawrence, what is that point prediction that they get in between there? Yeah.
00:34:11
So you guys, Joey Bosa is not inactive for today.
00:34:14
There you go.
00:34:15
So he will be available.
00:34:16
That can have a nice impact and maybe a couple of key plays there against Drew Brees.
00:34:20
50.
00:34:21
5 the over under Lawrence.
00:34:22
What is that prediction where they come close enough, but just narrowly fall short against the Saints? Do they still hit the over at 50 points? No, I'm I'm going under.
00:34:33
I don't I don't the same.
00:34:35
The chargers have alright defense, especially with Bosa and Hillary.
00:34:39
Like I said on that line, um, I three only issue I have is man Derwin James.
00:34:48
Being gone really hurts.
00:34:50
Chris Harris obviously really hurts.
00:34:52
Um, but Desmond King has came in, played very, very well.
00:34:57
And Perriman, I think I think the Saints defense will come in and play a little bit better than what they have the last.
00:35:07
Well, the first four games that they played.
00:35:09
Believe it or not, I don't I don't see this game going over, uh, 45.
00:35:14
I think this is gonna be like a 21 17 24 20.
00:35:20
We'll call it 21 17.
00:35:22
You got that kind of world there, right? Uh, no.
00:35:25
Um, it's without giving my score prediction away.
00:35:29
They're gonna get the over by a point and a half, so I'm going with the over on 50.5.
00:35:35
All right, so then you're living in a nice little listen, you take the point.
00:35:39
Let's call you 28. 23.
00:35:41
Something maybe around that kind of range.
00:35:43
I can I can pin you down right? If I need Thio.
00:35:45
Listen, Ray made a very strong case around.
00:35:49
First of all, we know.
00:35:50
No Michael Thomas.
00:35:51
We know that Emmanuel Sanders isn't quite showing up.
00:35:52
The way you hope it all really to me is gonna be predicated around camera and his success against the Chargers defense.
00:35:57
Now, this can be a show up game for the Saints on the defensive side of the ball.
00:36:02
I'm enticed.
00:36:03
I'm in the same boat of I'll take those points and I'll take the Chargers.
00:36:06
I probably lean towards taking the over a swell, but I came so close to doing it with Martin last time and taking the Bears in that game over Tampa Bay.
00:36:14
I'm right on the edge.
00:36:16
I'm right on the edge.
00:36:17
Is they want a interest.
00:36:19
I want to throw an interesting stat at you before you make a decision in this.
00:36:22
So right now the Chargers are sitting 11th in the league for run offense, right? For for yards collected, they're Devi away their 27th in the league.
00:36:33
Um, you don't get those discrepancies very often, but when I did the math, the math actually worked itself out.
00:36:42
Which tells me that their yards per game is over.
00:36:45
Achieving what? This odd what this run offense really is for the Chargers.
00:36:50
They're also going up against one of the best run defense in the league tonight.
00:36:54
Which is it that's gonna make things very, very interesting.
00:36:59
Was absolutely zero help from anything, Rages told me. I will take the over.
00:37:03
I'll still say Take the charge of the points, but I will call for a Saints victory in this one.
00:37:06
I just came to me, came to me very organically, very natural, very instinctual guy on the broadcast.
00:37:12
Listen, we are coming up on how about 20 minutes off the top of the hour.
00:37:16
So just about 35 minutes until game time, we did a darn thing.
00:37:20
Friends.
00:37:21
I think this was a nice little Monday introduction, by the way you may have seen are three friendly faces before.
00:37:25
That's because we do some Thursday night preview work together as Well, you're gonna start seeing me right here doing Monday football with these fine fellows in Ray Ralph and in Lawrence Owen, you can, of course, follow all three of us right here on SportsCastr.
00:37:38
You can use the hashtag SCN NFL to follow.
00:37:41
Not just us, but also our other friend there, Joe, who I'm taking over for on this particular stream.
00:37:47
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00:37:56
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00:37:57
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00:37:59
Let's go with right, because I really like the way Ray addresses the people.
00:38:01
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00:38:03
How did they get that profile? Listen, freeloaders.
00:38:07
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00:38:15
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00:38:22
Now, I don't know if we're gonna be there this Thursday.
00:38:23
We might not have a game to talk about, but it's Ah, um unless buffaloes gotta play back to back to two nights.
00:38:30
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00:39:35
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00:39:38
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