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along with Goes or the M M.
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A junkie radio team here on our Mondays and Thursdays on SportsCastr We're Here Live for the next hour can talk about the UFC event that just took place out in Abou Daddy.
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It involved Marlin, Mariah's and Corey San Hagen, so we'll definitely go over.
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That will definitely talk about Joakim Buckley's uh, you see spinning back kick heard around the world.
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Except he did it from a 1 ft elevated position.
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Some of the greatest KO ever.
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I don't know.
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We'll discuss that.
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We'll discuss the latest news in the sport of mixed martial arts, including unpacking the lightweight division, which is so I mean, convoluted.
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So much going on.
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McGregor versus Toya.
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Is it official? I don't know.
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It sounds like it.
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Chandler is still willing to fight Ferguson.
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Ferguson's ****ed Apoyo and Chandler when he now it looks like he still has the chance to fight.
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If not, could it happen in December under the foyer McGregor card Islam, aka Chef, was supposed to fight at UFC 2 54 against R G. A.
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I feel dos Anjos who's dropping uh, the 1 55 he's out because the Cove it.
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Chandler doesn't want to find Marcus Sheff.
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It's a mess and the Lakers won their 17th title.
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Uh, it's historic because now they tied the Boston Celtics for most NBA titles.
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Lots to talk about here on the intimate junkie radio show.
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Buckle up, folks.
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Here we go. We'll be right back.
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Alright, folks.
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Uh, sorry.
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Uh, all right, folks.
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On Saturday night we had a UFC event out in Abu Dhabi.
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It's a five week run that they're having it started with UFC 2 53.
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Adesanya versus Acosta.
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We'll finish up, you see 2. 54.
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Tomoko Madoff versus just engaging in between them.
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It's sprinkled in some fight nights and the Fight Night was headlined by Marlon Mariah's vs Corrie San Hagen.
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We'll start right at the top.
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Corey San Hanging Defeated Marlin.
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More ias Uh, this was contested at £135.
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He got him with a wheel kick in the second round off their five round affair Scheduled five round affair.
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Corey San Hagen look great.
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I mean, it's not that Marlon Maya's didn't look good.
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I think Cory San Hagen just look great.
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Almost kind of like when Corey San Hagen lost to algebra and sterling.
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I mean, just sterling just look great.
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So eyes he what? You know what's next for each guy? I don't know.
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I think San Hagen may have to take a fight easy.
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He's even come to the gripping reality a little bit and saying that maybe Frankie Edgar makes sense for him or some other fighter.
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Uh, and, of course, Marlin Rice will try and dust off and get back on the horse.
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Now.
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Marlin Rice did say he thought it was stopped a little early.
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Let's discuss it goes what you think of the fight, what you think of the stoppage? What's next for each guy? The fight was okay.
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I thought they were still trying to figure each other out a little bit.
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It's kind of weird, because for me watching fights now, when somebody lands at CAF kick early on and there isn't too much of a response to it, it's almost like you could see the writing on the wall like not that the fight ended because of that.
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But you could just see it throws fighters off, and Marlin just seemed to be a little off in the beginning because some of the things that 10 Reagan was doing was taking him time to figure out that distance.
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But Marlin stuff and he was getting in there and he was throwing his own shots.
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But it just seemed like early on Cory San Hagen knew exactly what needed to happen and and was already in his flow while I was taking Marlin a little bit to get there.
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So the KO was nice.
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I think we both kind of said it at the same time.
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It looked early stoppage, but at the same time, Marlon didn't really protest and he didn't do one of those things where sometimes you'll see a fighter stand up right away and you can see okay, he's not even having trouble standing.
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Marlon was a little slow to get up, so I think that's just something that maybe you say toe to save face a little bit.
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I agree.
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I think it was a little early, but I think it kind of just worked out.
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And then as Faras, who's next? Frankie Edgar.
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That's a good name.
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He bought a T J Dilla shot, too, and I mean the thing about TJ's, he's such a fun fighter.
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A great stylistic matchup.
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Who doesn't want to see that? But I don't know if I'm one of these fighters.
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I'm not calling T J Dilla shows name like I need t j to come back and let him do his thing and and rebuild himself.
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But I I want to conduct myself as if I'm I'm above T J right now.
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I can understand that.
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But remember, he is a former champion, and TJ will come back to some big fights.
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He left as you know, he was stripped of the bantamweight division, but he left as a defeated flat Wait.
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I mean, whatever you want to dig into that when you talk about who were the greatest band awaits ever, his name comes up dominant.
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Cruz's name comes up.
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Obviously, Cejudo brings his name now, But look, Cejudo deserves to be thrown out there.
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Maybe even Cody Guard brand.
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I don't know.
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That's That's for another day for us to unpack Bad.
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You know that that talk.
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But, um, I guess he gave himself options.
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Frankie Edgar's Onley wanna know as a bantamweight, but still he's Frankie Edgar, for crying out loud, Um, more than anything.
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I think it was just him realizing that, Jeez, unless the UFC really fumbles this one, it's yon and Algemeen sterling all day, probably in December, maybe January.
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Um, and and so does he wanna wait for that winner? Or does he wanna already fight somebody else? I don't know, because he's young and he just looks like he's hungry and wanting to stay active.
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So it was good that he gave himself some options.
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I had no, no, no problems at all with his performance in and out of the Octagon ous faras Marlon, Mariah's goes, Here's the thing when he when he hit him and he fell back, Sam, I mean, look, he took some shots, no doubt about that.
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And I think I think it's confirmed right.
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He broke his orbital, that that's what the San Hagen camp was yelling out.
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But either way, when he fell back, his arms were still in a protective defense mode.
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I think it warranted hard to say whether it's another second or two, because some of these fighters were so quick that you could bring down 10 punches in two seconds.
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Um, but that's what it felt like like just a sequence of San Hagen on top.
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And Marlon Ryan isn't isn't grabbing a leg, grabbing a hold of a leg or really, really protecting himself or maybe Terlingua himself, at least so that now Stan Hagen has the options to put Hooks in and submit him or just keep raining down the options, Something that tells you that he's still in the game.
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I was looking for that.
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Now.
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That said, it's not.
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It shouldn't be some crazy uproar.
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It shouldn't take away from San Hagen's Win 100 or Mariah saying, Look, we're high level, uh, so some fighters get the benefit of this.
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I wish I would have got the benefit of that, and I have no problem with him saying it, But your winner was Cory San Hagen.
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He looked good and he dusted off that.
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That that lost from Algerian Sterling, who imagine if he had lost the morass that that might have been really tough to come back from.
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Yeah, Hudson, really, What, the last two years, I think, have taught us his Corey probably does need to take another fight.
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Regardless, if he feels like he's outside looking in and he's the next guy.
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You just gotta keep fighting and make making money, especially in that division.
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Just because there's so many wild cards that come out of nowhere.
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I would have maybe thought about it for 10 seconds and said No, you know what? I gotta fight.
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I gotta fight someone.
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And I liked the Frankie Edgar name.
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That's a good one.
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Well, yeah, they were supposed to fight.
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I think it was a fight card that was in taking place in san Take place in San Diego.
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I don't know why that stands out, but it was supposed to be at the end of last year, so maybe it wasn't Sandy. I don't know.
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That's not important.
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But they were gonna fight.
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And I remember Edgar took a fight against the zombie because the zombie had lost his opponent.
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I don't remember who that was at this point, but Edgar, uh, step in.
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He thought he lost in San Hagen.
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Just was feeling, you know, I mean, that was his big moment, you know? And then he moved on to something else, but I guess he's over it.
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He understands it because Edgar came out of his mouth, and so he's willing to get down.
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But look, this sand are sorry, Sterling yon fight.
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It's either gonna we're gonna know soon whether it's happening or whether it's not.
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And I think it's gonna be booked for December.
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Just doesn't have tomorrow.
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Guzman vs Gilbert Burns.
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Um, that's That's just not happening.
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It also doesn't have me.
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02 Vs in gone, you.
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I could see them.
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Maybe trying to get that fight booked.
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What seems to be holding things up is Algemeen Sterling coming to terms, financial terms, getting what he wants.
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And but him and Yang had been chirping on Twitter.
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That's cool.
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You know, I like that stuff.
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So I think San Hagen could just enjoy his win for a week or two and find out if Algemeen sterling doesn't come, you know, to agree to an agreement with the UFC.
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I'll bet you the UFC turns of San Hagen quickly, and if they do, then at least he knows when's the date.
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Can I get on the same card that way? I'm some sort of an insurance policy or and I'll just, you know, coming event versus Edgar.
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And I would love that, you know, I love it when the main event and co main event or it doesn't have to be those two, necessarily.
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But at least another high, highly touted fight is, uh, is being disputed on the same night that the champion fights.
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It's great for the timeline, and it puts this huge spotlight on the division, which it would happen more often.
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Plus that allows them to plug and play, not just because of injuries because of Miss Leight's and because of ah, Kobe that you know this stuff that happens with Kobe.
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It could be not, but it could be your coach.
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Don't forget if your coach kids that you still might gets at home right that happened to Brian Ortega.
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Have you ever thought about what the way mixed martial arts would play out primarily, but or take us fighting, right? Yeah.
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Okay, Yeah.
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No, I meant there's been times where the coach gets infected and you still don't fight because you've been near your coach is what I meant.
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But you scared me there.
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I thought that was off.
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Now have you ever sat back and thought how m M a would play out if it wasn't for social media, social media does a lot of the job for the fighters for the promotion, people chirping, going back and forth, letting us know what exactly is going on.
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I'm not getting the money I want.
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This guy doesn't want to fight me.
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Have you ever thought what it would be like if you just took Twitter or instagram away for for a couple months how different everything would play out? Well, I've seen it.
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Likely some people might relate.
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You should relate, goes when I bring it up.
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But honestly, these websites, the comment section, the underground I got to give credit to the underground website.
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A lot of guys would go in there and talk there smack, and sometimes a fight could be birth there.
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But yeah, it was these types of shows where people would go on and and the website would produce a recap, you know, talking about it.
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Um but I think we would revert to that.
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But I have no problem with the way it's gone down, because guess what.
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I'm I'm a junkie as a twitter page.
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Um, I'm a junkie, has a new instagram page. So we're right there.
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Were right in there throwing elbows.
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If you ever peruse the comment section, it could get pretty entertaining.
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They're not just with the fans, but other fighters.
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Also charming in.
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But yeah, you're right.
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I mean, social media does does a lot, you know? And God bless you.
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Seize announcers.
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They try, you know, they'll put that microphone and go, What's next for you? You know, you guys hit it out of the park like ****ey Gall.
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He's one of the greatest of all time when it comes to getting what he wants.
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And there's some that just they just want to get back to the locker room shower, hop on a plane to get home.
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You know, uh, as happy as I am that the Lakers won the championship and I'm staring at you wearing Laker golden and purple.
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It's also driving me bananas.
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You wanna why? You didn't ask me for permission to wear that This? Yeah.
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You don't remember? That was my Christmas gift.
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Ah, well, OK, but we settle that eyes.
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This actually your size and everything because it's it's my size.
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But yeah, it goes is right.
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It is it Waas.
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It was staged.
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Is this Christmas gift and then uh, he came to find out that it wasn't.
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I replaced it right.
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You got something you have not had opened up back to back presence.
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One was a pair of pillows that George and I were supposed to share on.
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Then, after giving that Frank Mir face, I opened up, uh, Georgia's president, which was the president to him.
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That was that was a pretty good team.
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12 punch.
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Yeah, well, I don't know.
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Everyone's gonna understand what happened here.
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So what What happened was, if I'm not mistaken, I think I ran out of time because I begin on my shopping on the 24th.
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And I think I ran out of time with, goes or just couldn't figure out what he wanted or something went wrong. I don't know.
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So I put this Laker Uh huh, sweatshirt in a box that was gifted.
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It said from George to goes, he opened it. He's ecstatic.
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He's a Lakers fan.
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Um, did you notice right away or you are doing okay, So I was keeping an eye on goes because I knew that the minute he saw that my fat ass the double X, that double X and not l cause that goes inside large.
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As soon as he saw that he would look at me and then I would just give him a look.
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And that look is the 42 years that I've known him.
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He should understand that What that means, it means Shut up.
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We'll deal with this later.
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You know, Don't make me look like a fool.
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Eso He was happy.
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He was stoked, so apparently he didn't see the size.
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We're all good.
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And e guess you figured it out the next day.
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Maybe now I figured it out like a little while later when I was showing somebody else and they go, That's double.
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Excellent.
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What? When I looked at it, man, I know what this guy did, but that's not the first time.
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Another time you have got a jacket.
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You got me a jacket once.
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And I picked it out and I thought it was dope. Wasn't Adidas.
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Jacket was yellow.
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And when I went to open my president from you, it was just some random thing.
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And I was like, What is this, like, extra or what? And then I see our uncle opened up his gift and it was my jacket.
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Remember that the yellow jacket don't work out.
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You didn't have a present for him.
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So you panicked and you gave him mine.
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But I remember him opening it up.
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I remember the first thought going through my head was, Hey, he got one, like, being here.
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So, like, I just I just didn't do the math.
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And then I finally realized Oh, wait, I know what happened.
00:16:04
But anyway, all right, let's see here.
00:16:08
Let me go through the rest of the card.
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And then I want to talk about walking Buckley, who deserves some shine.
00:16:14
In the co main event of Saturday's card, Edson Barboza defeated Ma Kwan.
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American E goes, It was pretty simple for Mercante.
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He tried to stand, but it wasn't going good for a man.
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He was getting socked up pretty good at times.
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Other times he was hanging in there, throwing a couple shots of his own.
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But, you know, over the course of 15 minutes, it wasn't serving them right.
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So eventually started getting some of those takedowns.
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And I'll tell you what, towards the end, Uh, you know, if he gets that third take or that take down in the third and could secure some writing time.
00:16:47
Writing time? You never know.
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You might have snuck out of there with the wind, but you know, Edson Barboza was the clear, better fighter over 15 minutes and now he wants some big names.
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1.
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45 is this division.
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He's one and one now.
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He lost a controversial decision to Danny Gay.
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Those were his words.
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I thought it was Cleary gay One.
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Well, remember was close, but, uh, he's now one and one, but he's Edson Barboza.
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When you shift from one weight class to the other and you've accomplished things in the other one, trust me, the UCC that we see that way see it, too.
00:17:25
That wasn't odd fight because it wasn't Americanas worst performance.
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And it wasn't really Edson's best performance, right, because you're right.
00:17:37
Had he gotten that takedown, it probably would have been like an ugly wind for him and Barbosa getting the wind.
00:17:46
I mean, Amir Khan, he started Thio gas out a little bit, so I think that's when Edison started letting go a little bit more.
00:17:52
So the end of the fight looked way better from but early on It just didn't seem like we like.
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It's a new exactly what it was he wanted to do in that fight.
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It was it wasn't like his best performance, but it wasn't bad at the same time.
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But, I mean, you have a fighting off some takedown because remember, he would on.
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And then he was trying his own version of the front choke that Americana is really, really good at.
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But the problem, the more you do that, the more you kind of play with a slippery python.
00:18:21
You know, like, if you go to the fair and then hey, you wanna wear this snake? It's a real snake.
00:18:25
And you're like, Okay, you know, and you put it on, you take your picture and then you go kindly take it off.
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At least that's how I ask because I'm petrified of snake.
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You take it off and then you just go on about your business, right? You don't say, Hey, can you wrap them around me, put a blindfold on and then why don't you go get us a pair of hot dogs? I'll just keep the steak company ****ing because if the stink starts squeezing and something goes wrong and you panic.
00:18:51
It could be all over.
00:18:53
And so Barboza was doing a little bit of a version of this.
00:18:56
A little bit of a version of that.
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When I thought when I thought the best thing for him to do was to stand up, Man, you're you're you're using this guy And I'm saying this with a lot more passion.
00:19:06
A lot more curse words, because I bet Barbosa.
00:19:09
But look, I know there's a lot of smart M m a fans that air going well.
00:19:13
Yeah, well, GDR water fight after being the better fighter on the stand up.
00:19:18
So I I get that I get that I really do.
00:19:22
All right.
00:19:23
But she was that close to getting caught to to getting mounted and possibly losing that fight.
00:19:28
Same thing with Barbosa.
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I think that's the worst of the two situations.
00:19:31
If you go home and you go and they go, what happened and you go I lost, man.
00:19:35
He choked me out.
00:19:36
I was messing with him.
00:19:37
He reversed me.
00:19:39
Or or, you know, just I'll handle me and I got choked out.
00:19:45
That stings.
00:19:46
But if you go home and you go Hey, I want I had the chance to someone, but I didn't.
00:19:51
That doesn't sting as much.
00:19:53
You had the chance with your fun once things more than the other.
00:19:56
Always keep that in mind.
00:19:58
And it almost goes back to what we were talking about with James.
00:20:00
Crowds goes, Thank you.
00:20:02
Mhm.
00:20:03
Yeah.
00:20:04
Um, you know, the snake you you brought up at the carnival I had that happened to me at the indoor swap meet here in Vegas.
00:20:15
The most surprising thing ever, Because you would never expect I was.
00:20:20
It's the fantastic one.
00:20:22
You know, when George it's real. Get up.
00:20:24
But I was looking old wrestling dolls for Elvis, and I turned around, and I just here.
00:20:31
Hey, you wanna gonna have my snake on your shoulders? It's only five bucks, and it was like Jake the snake, whatever.
00:20:36
That is. A python.
00:20:37
It was like, right here.
00:20:39
I turned around.
00:20:40
It was right here.
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Do you have, like, uh, snakes? Facebook? Twitter? Yeah, because he had him like this.
00:20:46
Hey, just had it like like he was just ready to put him on me.
00:20:48
But I didn't even see that or nothing like that was literally.
00:20:52
It was like a tattoo guy here, a toy thing here and, like, hot dog stand.
00:20:56
And then I guess he was next.
00:20:58
I don't know what the hell he had, but he people just pay to take a picture with snake on him.
00:21:03
But I mean, came and just being in target, and all of a sudden there's a boa constrictor.
00:21:06
Like it was so shocking.
00:21:08
I gotta ask questions.
00:21:10
First of all, does he still have his fangs? Is he poisoning? I got to go through, like, literally one of these, you know, like a clipboard and check off.
00:21:19
Okay.
00:21:20
Yeah.
00:21:21
You know, he's 200 years old, has no aggression.
00:21:25
I mean, I don't know, because I want nothing to do with that.
00:21:28
I don't see the need to take that picture.
00:21:31
Um, but if you can answer about a good 10 questions and it's the friendliest thing in the world, OK, get the picture and then get the **** out of my life.
00:21:40
I don't need to sit there and ask any more questions.
00:21:43
I don't need to pet him.
00:21:44
I don't need to ask the steak if he has kids.
00:21:46
What? His favorite teams are nothing like that.
00:21:49
Um, but Edson, you know, he toyed a little bit in.
00:21:53
Uh, it's not like he had poor technique.
00:21:55
These guys are amazing athletes, but I noticed each time he was just bring you more life toe Americana versus when he was socking him up and actually knocking him down American his face was like he was over.
00:22:09
I'm getting torched in here, you know, like you know what I mean.
00:22:12
And you got to remember that, folks, you get well, not not you guys because you guys don't fight.
00:22:16
But fighters, young fighters, especially Ah, go back and listen to our interview with James Crowns here on SportsCastr is the last one we did here on our page.
00:22:25
Www dot SportsCastr dot com forward slash and I'm a junkie.
00:22:29
He talks about five different facets, um, of the fighting career of strategy that he implores on all of his athletes and one of them just straight up I ke Where you your strongest? Where is he or she their weakest? Um alright.
00:22:47
Continuing in the future About which is the third one from the top marching to borrow fought Ben Rothwell goes What a pace for these big heavyweights.
00:22:58
I mean, did I hear that been through 130 plus punches.
00:23:03
Just been around one alone.
00:23:04
Yeah, strikes in total.
00:23:06
That that's insane.
00:23:07
And it's one of those things where, like, Ben, I think started to tire out towards the fight, and I think that really did affect them.
00:23:14
But you can't blame them, because how many other times do we just say, man, You left, You know, you left something there, you could have gone for it.
00:23:20
You could have done it. He did.
00:23:22
He took a chance.
00:23:23
It didn't work out.
00:23:24
But he did pay for it later on in the fight.
00:23:26
And I think that's probably what got him because early on, his punches were hurting him.
00:23:31
But then it just seemed like they didn't have that steam.
00:23:33
And, um, he was having problems like, I think he would have been more successful if he would have got him up against the cage.
00:23:40
A little bit hung on him.
00:23:42
Kind of like what he did the S P.
00:23:44
But it just wasn't big Ben's night.
00:23:46
And it's one of those fights where I think if they bought 10 times, it might be split, but that was tough for big band fans.
00:23:55
Yeah, it waas and credit to Martine tomorrow because he took a long shots.
00:24:00
Look, band was throwing a lot.
00:24:02
I love this activity.
00:24:03
You can't say that was a boring fight for sure, and he went after it.
00:24:08
But I would say if I had to criticize, it's that a lot of shots also missed.
00:24:14
And I'm wondering if you could just be more efficient with it.
00:24:16
A lot of times you hear the coaches just touch touch him, it adds up.
00:24:20
And it was adding up.
00:24:21
But, man, when he committed to like his uppercut, for example, or when he just threw, like a straight right rather than just the, you know, follow and follow that That following followed that.
00:24:30
That that, um he really, really hurt Tabora and credit to Tabora.
00:24:35
You know, he hurt Ben Rothwell right back.
00:24:37
We all had it about 11 going into the third and in the third, just one guy was younger pressure, and, uh, that made a huge, huge difference.
00:24:49
You know, he basically dominated.
00:24:53
I mean, I think that's where the 10 8 came from.
00:24:55
If I'm not mistaken.
00:24:56
Uh, once he got him down, it was it was a rap.
00:25:00
So yeah, your big If you're a big Ben Rothwell fan, like goes and I are like a lot of junky nation is It's a tough one, you know? But he did come out to fight.
00:25:11
You salute him for that.
00:25:12
He's been busy ever since he came back from his to your suspension that he had a few years ago so good for him putting some money away.
00:25:19
Hopefully, you know, every time a fighter loses folks and we don't know these contracts situations, you know, we don't ask him as often as we used to, but if you are paid wealth older and coming off a loss, especially one that's not exciting, a lot of times that might be it for you.
00:25:39
Ben's older, he's coming off a loss.
00:25:41
But that fight was exciting, so I'm hoping that he gets a little bit of the Andrei Arlovski treatment.
00:25:45
Were like, Hey, we know you're not necessarily contending for a title, but, man, you're a stiff test for the up and comer on, and you're a name, you know, that we can put you on a card that where fans go All right, Cool.
00:25:57
You know, I'm popping open a beer because big bends on the card because Andres on the card, you know, those guys have been past their prime, and again, they're not contending.
00:26:05
But there's still, uh, heavyweights just a little bit more.
00:26:09
Must see TV.
00:26:11
They graduate a lot quicker, so must see TV like the Diego's like the Cowboys.
00:26:16
And I guess it's just because of that Big one punch power.
00:26:18
Well, yeah, we've been groomed our entire life in boxing that the baddest man on the planet is the heavyweight champion of the world transfers over to mixed martial arts as well.
00:26:28
And your guy always has a chance because they have that power.
00:26:32
All right, I wanna welcome to the show one of the nominees for this year's World Emmy Awards in the best journalist category.
00:26:39
He's been a colleague of ours for almost a decade.
00:26:42
Help, uh, he's no longer young Mike Bomb.
00:26:44
He's just Mike Bond.
00:26:45
What's up? Like Bob? Middle aged Mike Long. I'm getting there.
00:26:49
I'm good.
00:26:51
Yes.
00:26:52
Yeah, thanks for having me on e Think it's being It was seven years.
00:26:54
August 1st junkie.
00:26:55
So that decade is coming up quick.
00:26:58
Alright, cool.
00:26:59
It's been a great ride with you.
00:27:01
And are you are you 30 year? You are 30 right? No, I'm 29.
00:27:05
I'll be 30 in May.
00:27:06
Alright, So you're young like mine Until May.
00:27:09
Then and then after that, we have to think of another one.
00:27:11
We did the same thing with Melvin Guillard, the young assassin Ringo's way.
00:27:15
We're like, Okay, hold on a second.
00:27:17
You're 35.
00:27:18
We gotta figure something out.
00:27:19
And I think he got the chance.
00:27:21
He did? He did. He did.
00:27:23
Well, speaking of chins and that kind of talk, the California kid, you're I favor.
00:27:27
So he was, like, 40 something way.
00:27:29
Got a lot of these going on a Christian.
00:27:32
Hey, real quick.
00:27:34
You know, we just went over the top three fights, but let's get your thoughts.
00:27:37
Um uh, we'll start with San Hagan versus Mariah's.
00:27:41
Would you think of the fight? Did you think the stop? It was a little early, Like Mariah's implied, uh, post flight, maybe Like a touch, but not too bad.
00:27:50
I mean, he didn't really complain in the moment. I could understand.
00:27:53
Like hindsight the rest did not give him much of an opportunity.
00:27:56
Once he got dropped from that kick, Sand Hagen came out on top of him and I assume, would have just kept throwing strikes there.
00:28:02
But, yeah, he would get a ton of moments to either, like, you know, curl up or do whatever he needed to do to show that he really, really wasn't fighting.
00:28:09
And he wasn't completely out.
00:28:10
So maybe you could have given a few more, but I don't think he was recovering from that.
00:28:13
Even if you somehow got back up to this feet and like, back into the fight, that was so much momentum in San Hague instruction at that point, I think it would have just being an even uglier and more punishment field ending for him.
00:28:25
And that usually is the case in about 95% of those early stoppages, you know where? Okay, Maybe the guy grabs a single and maybe the clock is eight seconds, and you can write it out, get on the stool, clear the cobwebs, comeback compete.
00:28:38
And maybe to some sort of a comeback.
00:28:40
But yeah, most of time.
00:28:41
They're usually done most of time we're usually saving them from those additional shots that can rock.
00:28:46
Um, but it's because of the history of the game that this has happened, that I understand the fighter when they say what they say.
00:28:55
And, you know, those losses must be so devastating.
00:28:58
You're just looking to something, something to cling onto.
00:29:01
Hey, get me a fight again.
00:29:03
This was stopped early.
00:29:04
I'm one of the best.
00:29:05
You know, I knocked out the guy that might be fighting Yang soon And algebra Sterling.
00:29:09
Why is that? Not me.
00:29:10
I understand those frustrations.
00:29:12
So, um, God bless Marlin Rice.
00:29:15
He's still a great band.
00:29:17
I'm waiting.
00:29:18
You know, he'll he'll be matched up against somebody else soon.
00:29:20
They you know, and he'll have to live to fight another day.
00:29:23
Yeah, he want that December turn around.
00:29:25
I mean, if he had taken more shots and being completely put out fighting in December, bro.
00:29:29
So it might not even happen now, but even the option wouldn't be on the table if he had taken more punishment.
00:29:35
So you gotta kind of looking at both sides of corn there, but yeah, well, Mahrez is unrealized.
00:29:40
Tough loss for, but he's still gonna be top five bands when I think there's tons of fun fights for him.
00:29:45
So you know what, though, is like we were talking about Mike Bond and he's been our colleague for almost a decade now.
00:29:52
Think about how long ago was George that we were at the Planet Hollywood, and a young Marlon Riots was fighting Miguel Torres.
00:30:00
Remember that? We all kind of like, Who's this? And I think these guys travel over to the UFC and granted, he came over as a champion.
00:30:08
But some people didn't see that part of his career.
00:30:10
You know, we just know him for the UFC thes veterans man.
00:30:14
It only takes like there's these type of fights where overnight they start to look old.
00:30:18
And I don't feel like that was Marlon just yet.
00:30:21
But these are the type of fights that I think kind of set that tone for the next match up that he gets.
00:30:26
And he's lucky because he's got one of those styles that I think everybody wants to tune in and watch, and I hope he gets a good one and gets right back on track because Marlon is one of the best fighters in the world.
00:30:36
Yeah, I don't think he necessarily look like bad or anything.
00:30:38
I think Cory San Hagen just look really, really, really **** good.
00:30:41
I think that was more to do with anything like that.
00:30:43
First round was kind of classic Marlin on.
00:30:45
Then he got caught pretty early in the second.
00:30:47
So that's what I saw in there.
00:30:49
I saw just Corey San Hagen have his breakout moment more so than Madeline.
00:30:53
Marie is not being himself for not meeting his potential or anything.
00:30:56
I think he just ran into a bad style matchup in a guy who had a serious point to prove Corey San Hagen.
00:31:01
And boy, did you do it? That was sensational stuff, All right.
00:31:05
And Mike von Toast about Edson Barboza in the mirror.
00:31:09
Uh, sorry, Marijuana Mercante.
00:31:10
That was the co main event, American.
00:31:13
He was getting owned on the feet, but he almost looked for, uh, some openings there on the ground.
00:31:19
That could have been trouble for Barbosa, especially if he gets a dominant position.
00:31:22
Yeah, I mean, he tried his best in there, but I just that kind of when, as I expected it thio just a bad style matchup for a mere Connie.
00:31:30
He was able Thio, you know, not get dropped on the feet for a while there.
00:31:34
But when it ultimately came, it really started crashing down on him.
00:31:37
And Barbosa was just landed those lightning quick punches that put him down.
00:31:41
So yeah, very important win for Barboza there.
00:31:45
I think I don't think he's ever really like falling off a guy that we thought was on a downward slide.
00:31:49
He just ran into some tough results.
00:31:51
I mean, back to back split decisions could have easily gone his way.
00:31:54
We were talking about this man in a very different light here on this Monday, right now if he was on a three fight winning streak instead of being one and three in his last four fights.
00:32:03
But I think you kind of look at his body of work there.
00:32:06
What he did against anti gay, how good that fight was, what he did here against Amir.
00:32:10
Connie, who's like top 15 a featherweight can't say Edson Barboza is not like at the top of this division.
00:32:16
I really want to see him fight someone who's like Elsie, said top five top six see how good he can be there.
00:32:22
You don't have too many guys like this.
00:32:23
Man, like Barboza was a top 10 lightweight for how many years? They're probably the better part of a decade.
00:32:28
And then here he is, moving down division and establishing himself as a top 10 guy.
00:32:32
There.
00:32:33
You don't see too many people capable of doing that.
00:32:34
So that's pretty impressively that if you never gets to the title or anything, like, uh, you are so right.
00:32:40
Because if he had won the EEG a fight he'd beat two and O and then bringing over that stock from the lightweight division of how good he's been over the past decade, we could easily be inserting them in there with the caters And, you know, the I ears, zombies or takers that air trailing, you know, the channel.
00:32:57
But instead, that lost just, you know, it makes him 11 a featherweight, and he will just have toe.
00:33:04
He'll probably get another name because he still has some stock.
00:33:06
But boy, he could be right up there, you know, like Frankie Edgar.
00:33:10
He debuted at 1 35 got the win, and he's getting called out like Cory San Hagen? Yep. No.
00:33:17
Lots of interesting fights for Barboza there.
00:33:19
Obviously.
00:33:20
You know, he had kind of seen and done it all and fought everyone out.
00:33:22
Lightweight, You know, the tail end of his tenure there.
00:33:25
He was just fighting guys again.
00:33:26
You have the rematch with Felder and his last one.
00:33:28
And, yeah, kind of brought a fresh coat of paint to his career.
00:33:32
I think his abilities really translate well there.
00:33:35
There's not too many guys that are like, you know, the Habib's, the Ferguson's that air gonna be doing, being able to do what they did.
00:33:41
Tens of are both out lightweight in terms of grappling and out featherweight.
00:33:45
So I think that's a pretty good sign for him.
00:33:47
I think you know, I don't know if he's gonna be champion, especially is like 34 35 now.
00:33:51
But I could see Edson Barboza maybe getting into that title fight that eluded him. A lightweight.
00:33:56
Yeah, for sure, And where we might bring up Barbosa's name one more time in just a sec.
00:34:01
When we discuss greatest Keough's ever.
00:34:04
We'll get to walking Buckley.
00:34:05
But that's one.
00:34:06
What do you think of marching tomorrow.
00:34:08
And Ben Rothwell? I mean, it was a heavyweight fight.
00:34:13
E think there's too much to say like Gun Roth Wall.
00:34:15
That was a fun start for him.
00:34:17
You came out throwing insane volume, so that was good.
00:34:20
But I think it kind of goes to show that heavyweight you need toe pace yourself a little more because he once you got put on the ground that third round, either tippers, top pressure was that good or Ben Rockwell's? It was just that tired and had kind of let everything out of the tank that he couldn't get himself out from on bottoms.
00:34:37
So yeah, I mean, it was kinda would be nice to see your author all gonna win, especially after, like, everything is hometown of Kenosha is being through and just all that leading in.
00:34:45
And it's kind of on the tail end of his career in some ways.
00:34:49
And you had a nice couple winds coming into this, But yeah, I mean Tiber as a guy, he It's usually pretty ugly when he goes in there, but he finds a way to win quite a bit.
00:34:58
I thought his post, like called of Derrick Lewis, was kind of interesting.
00:35:02
I think that fight's gonna happen.
00:35:03
But he did make some good points.
00:35:05
He's like I was winning that fight up until I wasn't.
00:35:07
I think you know a lot of guys who have lost Derek Lewis would probably say that exact same thing, but he's done good stuff in there against, like, some top names.
00:35:14
So tempers, you know, on the younger side, he's not.
00:35:17
Why these heavyweights, who's closer to 40 than he is 30.
00:35:20
So that's kind of a good sign, and we'll see what he can do.
00:35:23
Another guy from Poland who is getting big ones, uh, good momentum for that country right now.
00:35:28
Alexander Volkov could say the same thing.
00:35:30
What was he like? 15 seconds like running a little? Yeah, all right.
00:35:36
So, guys, there was some really, really good action throughout the card, and I'll go over some of the results in just a sec.
00:35:42
But let's just get walking Buckley, because everyone's at the water cooler talking about this.
00:35:46
If you're on the East Coast, you're discussing it over lunch.
00:35:49
If you're on the West Coast right now, you're in the break room and eating a breakfast sandwich.
00:35:52
But everyone's talking about it.
00:35:54
It was a thing of beauty.
00:35:55
Some are going so far as to say it's the greatest ever.
00:35:58
Our colleague Dave Doyle will politely disagree.
00:36:01
And look, there's nothing wrong with saying if that's your opinion, it was pretty spectacular.
00:36:05
But I gotta ask you to Is it for you right at the top.
00:36:08
And if not, what? What keeps it from being a Top Z close? I just don't think it's number one, um, for me to put it up there, like, if this was like a championship fight or a contender fight or something like that, then, yeah, but to me, with these knockout stakes do matter quite a bit.
00:36:29
And I mean there there's no perfect answer here, right? Like everyone is like pound for pound or something like that.
00:36:34
Everyone's gonna have what they value Mawr is that, you know, technique is that the shock value is that the overall historical meaning is that an upset is it.
00:36:42
You know, all these different measurements that could go into it.
00:36:45
And for me, I kind of put Valium or on the stakes and the historical meaning and stuff, like I think, you know, if you want to add something that's like we've never seen it before a crazy knockout, but put it in like higher six.
00:36:56
You know, look at the Yeah, Rodriguez and Korean Zombie naka like To me, that's slightly above that.
00:37:02
That was a main event.
00:37:03
A you know, maybe not a title eliminator for a super important fight.
00:37:07
That weight class and it was a knockout we've never seen before by a guy who was losing the fight with one second left like that to me is slightly above this one.
00:37:15
But this It was incredible in terms of purely, like just show someone a knockout and a highlight and maybe pick without knowing anything about, you know, the fighters or what it means or anything I think you could put Maybe, you know, the top five knockouts, top 10 knockouts and UFC history in front of a person, and they would probably pick that is one or two.
00:37:33
So on that pure alone, it's right there with all the rest.
00:37:36
But there is some other ones.
00:37:37
You know, Holly Holm over Rhonda Rousey.
00:37:39
Even I put about that because of all the elements dimensions, so it's probably taught five for me, but I don't think it breaks like my talk to or top three.
00:37:48
How about you guys? Yeah, I think if you look at it that way, then yeah, it just can't compete.
00:37:53
But I'm one of those guys that when you know we're at the Mandalay Bay and we're watching the highlights from the night before and you're watching the top 10 plays, it always drives me nuts when it's when the number one player is a guy maybe saving a home run or something like that.
00:38:07
It's not that it's not big, it's just it happens all the time.
00:38:11
You know, there's times that you see things in other sports that just rarely happened.
00:38:15
And they're like the number three player, the number four player or something like that.
00:38:18
This is one of those times where this just rarely happens, you know, for somebody to be holding, like to generate that much power off of the same leg that you're using.
00:38:27
The kick is pretty tremendous.
00:38:29
So for me, it's pretty high up there.
00:38:31
Um, but yeah, probably in the top five around there.
00:38:35
Zombie was pretty good, though.
00:38:37
Yeah, I'm Barboza to mention it Well, we've never seen something like that before, so yeah, I mean again, it's like, No, I don't think there is 100% accurate answer.
00:38:48
Everyone's gonna have their own measurements and how they do this.
00:38:51
So I'm cool with, you know, anyone who says it's the best ever. I'm cool with someone.
00:38:55
Saying another thing is the best ever.
00:38:57
Like we're kind of splitting hairs here in a lot of ways.
00:38:59
Can never a topic on this church.
00:39:02
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:03
What did you guys think of Scott Van Pelt and everything that happened there on Twitter and all that? I didn't see what happened.
00:39:09
So he was very critical of it.
00:39:11
Like he just kind of blew it off like, yeah, Okay, guy getting hurt.
00:39:15
Let's all cheer for that.
00:39:16
You know, that sort of, like attitude towards it.
00:39:18
But if you go through Twitter and the people that came at him throughout the night, his responses were pretty d like I think you pulled back a little bit, but I don't know.
00:39:26
I thought that I thought that was kind of cheesy.
00:39:28
What do you think, Mike? So I didn't see it live, but this obviously you know, being up here in Canada, we don't get your guys this edition of SportsCenter.
00:39:36
But as far as I know, you know, they kind of let the broadcast off.
00:39:39
Showing the knockout in Scotland poll was kind of like like, you know, that's, like, tough to watch or something that kind of downplayed it a little bitter, like, you know, this is too violent or whatever, and I think it was more like the image of, you know, that moment where input was kind of frozen up and many tower to the canvas that just with that big impact and smashed his head on the canvas, there's just like, Yeah, I guess I kind of cringe for him in that sense.
00:40:02
And a lot of people came after him and, like, you know, why is there why are you putting an anchor on ESPN? Who's gonna crap on the sport, all that kind of stuff.
00:40:10
But that's kind of what I appreciate about some of these guys, like we're not going to sit here.
00:40:15
I think we all have been covering this long enough to know the sport isn't for everyone.
00:40:19
It's not gonna be bigger than soccer. One day.
00:40:21
It's not going to do all these things like there's just gonna be a portion of people and, you know, maybe they're the people that are more normal than we are in the sense that, like watching people get crushed with these kind of knockouts and take this kind of brain damage.
00:40:34
It's not like normal.
00:40:35
In some ways, you know, I could There could be some people.
00:40:37
You could like the fighter as much as you want.
00:40:39
You could explain to them the history of the sport, the technique, all these things.
00:40:42
We're not just gonna fall head over heels within.
00:40:45
Wanna watch every fight like we do.
00:40:46
And I'm not mad at that anymore.
00:40:48
They used to be a time where maybe you try to convince people like, Oh, you know this thing or the other thing if they said something negative.
00:40:54
But I think the sports being around long enough being on big platforms like Fox and ESPN long enough that you're probably gonna make up your mind.
00:41:02
And I don't think Scott Van Pelt dislikes mm, A by any means.
00:41:05
I've seen him do some great interviews with ****ysts and fighters on SportsCenter and stuff like that.
00:41:11
I think he knows the sport pretty well.
00:41:12
You know, in comparison to some other people that would be in that position.
00:41:15
And I don't mind him voicing his opinion about that.
00:41:19
It seems like, Yes, the end didn't give him, uh, you know, give him any backlash or anything like that.
00:41:25
So so be it.
00:41:26
You know, it's not gonna be for everyone.
00:41:27
Everyone's gonna have their own opinion.
00:41:29
I'm fun with it.
00:41:30
I got the quote here, e I get that. People of it.
00:41:34
I don't I don't I don't love that.
00:41:37
The guy is out smashes his head on the ground.
00:41:39
Yea.
00:41:40
Um, so right away, when when you go to social media, people are laying into him going well, don't people get knocked out in football? You know, don't people get And then here's the thing, man.
00:41:51
I think it was last week that was a boxer.
00:41:52
That kind of went out and somebody pulled that clip up of him, kind of laughing at that.
00:41:58
So they were saying, Wow, it was funny in boxing.
00:42:00
But But if you look at Scott Van Pelt's responses to everything, I thought he did pretty well.
00:42:05
I thought actually conceded that point on one of the guys that you kind of have a point there, but but, yeah, it kind of.
00:42:12
It's that harsh reality that we have to remember that the people that that feel that way, like Scott Van Pelt, there's a lot of them.
00:42:21
There are a lot of people.
00:42:22
That's why when we're at the Mandalay Bay in the sports book and there's a fight, not everybody's rushed in there.
00:42:27
The way football Sunday is Randy, there are a lot of people with that type of opinion still, and but he stuck to his guns on it, for sure.
00:42:36
I mean, again, stop forever.
00:42:38
And look what happened in football with, like that press Scots ankle that, like you think people want to be sitting there watching that bent like twisted foot pointing the opposite direction of it should be on national television stuff like that.
00:42:49
You know, not some people are not going to enjoy the violent side of that, and people in football get hurt all the time.
00:42:54
So, like, you know, no, no sport is gonna be forever on that visual.
00:42:58
It's not gonna be for everyone.
00:42:59
And I'm beyond the point in being like involved in sports coverage.
00:43:04
And you know, this industry in particular, of trying to convince people that they need toe think one way or the other.
00:43:10
I mean, if you have some completely outrageous opinion based in fantasy and not reality, and you criticize it based off that, then okay, But if you just aren't on board with seeing people get knocked out in that way, which is completely fair, because that was a bad, bad, bad knockout that's cool.
00:43:27
It was spectacular.
00:43:29
It was violent.
00:43:30
If it wasn't for him, that's cool.
00:43:31
As long as he's consistent, you know somebody goes.
00:43:34
Five years ago.
00:43:35
Here's his reaction to when Marquez knocked out Pacquiao Pacquiao.
00:43:38
I went through the through the ropes and he's showing some comfort of level.
00:43:42
So some level of comfort towards like embracing how beautiful that was and not our sport, then that's when we have a problem.
00:43:50
If he's consistent across the board.
00:43:51
Okay, cool.
00:43:52
Something to maybe like, you know, people arm or over the years tailored to like boxing, you know, and seeing boxing knockouts and you know that goes, that's a much longer history.
00:44:04
It's a lot more violence.
00:44:05
See you guys spin and kick the dude in the jaw or like a crazy elbow or somewhere ahead kick in another way.
00:44:12
Do you think that plays into it all? People just, you know, maybe in that sense, art is accustomed to that.
00:44:17
And they are seeing some boxing knockout, which we've seen highlights up for decades at this point a little bit and a little bit, probably because of the social media culture that we have now.
00:44:27
We're a fight on the subway.
00:44:33
Ah, fight on the streets, a fight at school, you know? And then, you know, a lot of these people have kids I don't have kids with.
00:44:39
A lot of people have kids, and they just they may have set up the principal's office, you know, two days ago, trying to stick up for their kid who defended themselves against the bully.
00:44:47
Or maybe those people were bullying.
00:44:49
And I think it just brings something out of people that it reminds them of their past, their neighborhood, you know.
00:44:55
And whereas boxing I think we all saw it is just something so untouchable that we had an admiration for the sport, like look what these guys were doing.
00:45:03
And, you know, it was an Olympic sport.
00:45:06
This sport kind of came out of nowhere, you know, and and hit us, you know, like a cold bucket of water. And it's for some.
00:45:13
It's not further.
00:45:14
I have good buddies that got in fights every weekend, and I told this should be right down your alley.
00:45:20
You like ****ing people up on a Saturday night? You know what I mean? And you and hear all the sudden it's like the blood that this of that I don't get it, you know, For some, it just registers.
00:45:29
And for some, it doesn't on.
00:45:32
Then there's some of the, well, whatever some of the non athletic dudes or whatever that that I am falling with the mouth and love every sucking of it, You know what I mean? So I like Mike said, I think I'm done trying to figure out who is for and who it isn't for, but just like it is.
00:45:47
I'll tell you this much.
00:45:48
If I had his spot and you know, they told me here is the list.
00:45:52
You know, the 10 best plays or whatever, and I go sometimes made a 35 ft putt.
00:45:57
You want me to get excited about that? I'm not in the golf, you know, on that might be me. Gone.
00:46:01
Hey, would be, You know, he he made he made the shot because, uh, you know so that so that might be his version of what golf is to me to be here.
00:46:10
I think a lot of people have that attitude because when you look at boxing big gloves, right, when you look at hockey, they're wearing pads, football.
00:46:19
They're wearing pads like they're feel.
00:46:21
There's that humanity side to it.
00:46:23
Where here it's just you could see that down the street, right? Somebody just boom shin on somebody.
00:46:28
It's just so carnal that I think that's like where some of those people draw that line.
00:46:32
There's no pads, there's no big gloves.
00:46:36
Yeah, you could be right.
00:46:37
I just think it's not the greatest for me and my touched on something that that I try and touch on a lot when I'm like when people talk about rankings and things like that, your quality of opposition.
00:46:49
So I still think Anderson Silva to Vitor Belfort is gonna be tough to top because that's a technique that hadn't been used a t least not at that level.
00:47:00
It decided a title fight.
00:47:02
It took.
00:47:03
I mean, Anderson Silva was always a star.
00:47:05
Guys, he was He was, Ah, solid name of pride.
00:47:08
And then he came over to the U F.
00:47:09
C and kind of great debut against leaving.
00:47:11
He defeated Franklin.
00:47:13
But he wasn't that pay per view star that that we all came to know him, as I think that was break out, woman So against, uh, you know, one of a legend and Vitor Belfort.
00:47:24
You know, I think a lot of people would say That's you know, I remember our colleague financial process.
00:47:28
Our former colleague used to always say that like that Anderson Silva, Vitor Belfort Flight is probably the biggest enemy fight in Brazilian history, you know? So there's that but the significance of that as well.
00:47:38
So yeah, I mean, I think that that definitely means a lot.
00:47:41
You see that kind of stuff happening when, like the lights are shining brightest, The Holly Holm Rhonda Rosie type of moment like that is hard to beat other than you know, compared Teoh a third fight of the night prelim on some random UFC card that they're, you know, in a stretch of their putting events on literally every single week.
00:47:58
So there's a lot of quantifiable measures.
00:48:01
But as I said earlier, you wanted to tell me You think that's the greatest knockout and U F C M M A history.
00:48:06
Whatever.
00:48:07
Bio Queen Buckley, I'm not gonna get into a too big of a debate with you.
00:48:10
Yeah, as long as it's in your top five Top 10 and we don't have a problem.
00:48:14
You know, it's anybody, that is.
00:48:16
It's not even in my top 10.
00:48:17
I'd be like, Wow, what are you looking at anyway? You think, man, there's so many of them when you think about we were at Number Korean Franklin.
00:48:25
We were there.
00:48:26
That one kind of written in your head.
00:48:28
Great left, right.
00:48:29
Wasn't it just You just went straight down, remember, and then categorize it as a knockout.
00:48:34
Yet if you categorize it as a some sort of a kick, I mean, that's Showtime Kick against Ben was spectacular, didn't knock him out, but it knocked him down.
00:48:43
And remember that fight, I think, was to to going into the fifth, so you could argue that that began the the process of him solidifying round Fine, which got him the belt means it's a big moment.
00:48:53
Um, you know, I know there's a lot of ways of breaking.
00:48:56
Not to mention Jorge Mas, but all in vain.
00:48:58
Aspirin, E e count.
00:49:04
Honestly, do you remember Cro Cop Gonzaga on how much hype with pro cop coming over from pride.
00:49:10
I mean, there's so many of them.
00:49:12
Well, and then, uh, like when he kicked Mark Coleman like that was big at the time.
00:49:19
Coleman was messing everyone up.
00:49:21
He got you down headbutted.
00:49:23
You do to your head.
00:49:24
Looks like your face look like hamburger.
00:49:26
You know what I mean? And refresh me here.
00:49:29
I'm having a blank.
00:49:31
Kevin Lee kicked.
00:49:32
Uh, and that was beautiful, guys.
00:49:36
I mean, I thought that was that was one of those moments where I mean, look, I don't want to get to more of it here, but John Morgan has said it before, and I think we've all come to accept some things Get bad will happen one day.
00:49:48
If you look at the history of boxing as yeah, talking that it hasn't already to this point, right? Where do you? When I saw that, I thought this could be it.
00:49:58
Like I was.
00:49:59
I didn't even have time to go.
00:50:00
Yes, because I bet leave that day.
00:50:02
I think Probably I was just like, what? Was he all right? Like? I mean, that was shocking, man, because you see these kicks where you're like, Whoa, is this guy gonna be alright on gone? Ooh and ovary and was the crazy 12 I remember being cage side for that.
00:50:15
Like that was another one.
00:50:16
She's not getting back up like there's there's so many to count these.
00:50:21
These ones were all mentioned in recent years.
00:50:24
I think one of my favorite ones back in the day was Gary Goodridge when he did the crucifix elbows with these weird stuff.
00:50:29
I can't remember which UFC dollars, but that's, like, craziest early knock out a week.
00:50:34
Did you just say that goes? What did you just say? The week now? That was another one.
00:50:39
This was right.
00:50:40
Somebody was elbowing Orlando Leak, Remember? Uh, Ramco Pardo.
00:50:44
But this one was Paul Herrera Herrera.
00:50:46
That's the guy that that brought tank Abbott and Tito Ortiz into the game.
00:50:50
If I'm not mistaken, he's like a wrestling coach in Huntington Beach.
00:50:54
Yeah, he got abused, man e.
00:50:57
I mean, here we are.
00:50:58
We're just talking.
00:50:59
Basically, you have seen all gets at this point, not to mention, you know, things that we got in pride and strike for us and these things over the years.
00:51:03
So it's like, sit there and make it definitive list of the best Mm.
00:51:07
A knockouts or even UFC ones would be a extremely tough task And that credit to anyone who wants to actually do that work because it stuff.
00:51:15
Hey, Mike, you're our social media guy at M M.
00:51:18
A junkie.
00:51:19
What's they were talking about? All these records that just keep getting broken.
00:51:23
Is it because the, you see took another step up? And so arguably, there's just more fans, which means more retweets and things like that.
00:51:30
He went out of his way to say that Adesanya and cost a believe had they broke some record, I think it was on the social media for not pay per views and Joakim Buckley that just that that one bit video alone, I think it's got the most views or something that most retweets and likes and something like that.
00:51:49
I don't know exactly what the numbers are, but I think last time I checked, like yesterday, there was something like 12 million views or something on that one clip, let alone all the other places. It's being shared.
00:51:59
Like I saw so many fighters posted that ko on their instagrams and like it was everywhere, man.
00:52:04
People were like they did the right thing because, you know, sometimes most situations, they won't show the finish or like little things like that.
00:52:11
They put it out there right away a day.
00:52:13
Didn't geo block it on a single accounts.
00:52:16
They put it on all of them, put all these different angles and stuff like that was about his viral of a knockout as it gets.
00:52:22
And I think in terms of what they were talking about, like the I think it was the views the retweets and likes on that one.
00:52:28
And yeah, for like a finishing clip.
00:52:30
I don't know if it was for any clip it all.
00:52:31
I think it may have bean.
00:52:33
I know when Dana was referencing the Izzy cost to stare down with, like the throwing of the white belt and all that nonsense, I think, he said.
00:52:40
That was their most viewed face off clip ever, which I think had surpassed the Habib and Connor at Wayne's when Connor, like, punched his hand down or whatever, you know.
00:52:51
So, yeah, I mean, that's very good for the UFC.
00:52:54
In terms of like getting that traction and have anythings spread everywhere like that, they want those viral moments and to get something like that is definitely good for their social media, Good for their brand.
00:53:04
And, um, you know, e hurt saw someone said yesterday US seniors to give a viral knockout bonus instead of, like, performance the nights like if you get a viral K like that Because, dude, if you someone else made a good point, I can't remember exactly.
00:53:18
It was off the top.
00:53:19
My head on Twitter, like that knockout is gonna be shown on UFC opens on their, you know, promo packs and everything for, like, the rest of time.
00:53:28
If not the next 10 5, 10 years or anything like that, he is helping them sell their product like you want to see how crazy UFC could be.
00:53:35
Look at this crazy spending.
00:53:36
Knock it.
00:53:37
He isn't getting residual checks and stuff every time they blast that out there.
00:53:40
So it would be nice if they threw a guy like that some extra cheese, especially because Dana White teased him to his face, saying, We might give you $200,000 and then they ultimately end up giving 50.
00:53:51
Yeah, there's gotta be some value in it.
00:53:52
And I guess since we got you here, can you explain, because that really is a curiosity of mine? I've done it before.
00:53:59
A cousin of mine from South America.
00:54:01
Or go, You got to see this and I'll hit it and it's blocked.
00:54:04
Geo blocked.
00:54:05
Why? Why would they do that? And why do companies do that? Why wouldn't they want to get it in his many in front of as many eyeballs? E think it usually just comes down to like television deals type of thing, you know, like there might be some places where it's not showing live or they just can't show the finish a certain way.
00:54:22
I think that's really what it comes down to, like they'll have, um, UFC basically has a Twitter account for, like, every country at this point right there, like UFC, Canada, U.
00:54:31
S E.
00:54:32
Asia, just the UFC normal on Australia.
00:54:34
So I think they'll just basically put the same clip up.
00:54:37
But they would geo block it, you know, toe within their area on Lee, I think, Yeah, a lot of it does come down to just like television rights, things like that.
00:54:46
There may be one country where the UFC is literally on their like paper views.
00:54:50
What we would have this paper views are on their TV for free.
00:54:53
So, like the ability toe replace stuff is a lot easier than here, where in the States they don't want to just give away a finish for free or whatever, because they're hoping someone will buy the paper view after the fact or, you know, watch on television or sign ups, ESPN.
00:55:07
Plus, there's just a lot of little elements, but I think they they have so many different deals at this point and, like kind of the rules about when you can re broadcast all that kind of stuff is just different for each individual country, and I think that's why they have you know the separate accounts for each of these different regions at this point.
00:55:25
But ultimately, when it goes out on the man UFC cal, you I think they usually allow it to go.
00:55:30
It's like most places, but I being up here in Canada, like anything ESPN Mm.
00:55:34
A tweets out.
00:55:35
I pretty much can't see because all that stuff Geo blocked within the United States.
00:55:39
So I think a lot of people have encountered that problem.
00:55:42
If you're smart enough, you can get around it.
00:55:45
But yeah, is with us.
00:55:47
All right, Let's see here.
00:55:50
We only have a few minutes left, so I'm gonna put bones and Adesanya to the side.
00:55:54
They twitter beef is escalating, but I just don't think that they're fighting each other.
00:55:58
Next check e I did with the last week, though.
00:56:02
It's still out. We went over lots of stuff there.
00:56:04
He was Great.
00:56:05
In fact, check out Mike Bond with Israel Adesanya and check out my bond with not until from Liverpool.
00:56:12
I was watching some of that today and he was all you haters out there.
00:56:17
He's learning from YouTube.
00:56:18
That's what he was telling like bond and goes was producing there.
00:56:21
That was a good one.
00:56:22
Um, all of our interviews, by the way, are on www dot youtube dot com forward slash m a junkie video.
00:56:29
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00:56:36
Uh, yeah, it's subscribed in there.
00:56:39
So I'm gonna put off the rest of the card because I look, it was important and there was some great fights and, you know, congrats to the Tom Breeze and Chris Dhaka's and all those others you know, Tom Aspen all they they look great.
00:56:53
They really did DDP.
00:56:55
They're calling him the other dude from South Africa.
00:56:57
I don't even wanna try his name. Du Plessis.
00:56:59
I believe, uh, them so love in a second.
00:57:02
But hey, the lightweight division guys is hot.
00:57:05
It is popping.
00:57:06
If McGregor employees official Chandler, still waiting to fight it was still willing to fight Ferguson in 2 48.
00:57:13
But it's probably not gonna happen.
00:57:14
How do you guys want things that out unfold from here? Remember Charles Oliveras, a player Marcus Sheff still wants to fight it to 48 r d a dropped down the toe.
00:57:25
1 55 was willing to fight Marcus Sheff before he got co vid.
00:57:28
But it's everything starts to play out in this next cycle of fights that get made.
00:57:32
How do you guys want? How do you guys want this to play out? Go ahead, Mike.
00:57:36
And then goes, I think it depends really so much on who wins the Habib and Gay chief fight like if gaity wins, then I assume he'll be able probably get a rematch, and then that holds things up a lot.
00:57:49
I just want progression in this division.
00:57:51
I mean, it's immensely frustrating how few title fights like undisputed title fights we've had over the past few years.
00:57:57
There's been like three since I even maybe even less since I Connor McGregor beat Eddie Alvarez for the undisputed belt.
00:58:04
There's been a lot of interim title fights in there, so I just want to see the momentum.
00:58:07
You could book them up.
00:58:08
However you want to honestly like I would love to see Peoria and Connor do that rematch.
00:58:13
I don't know if it's actually gonna happen.
00:58:16
We'll see in these next few days and weeks or whatever, if they're gonna be able to pull the trigger for November and December.
00:58:21
But yeah, man, when it comes to light way, you could literally just pick names at a hat and match them up.
00:58:25
And you're like, in the top 10.
00:58:26
15 and you're gonna have some great matchups there.
00:58:29
But I guess if you're just kind of looking at that very, very talk to me, it makes sense.
00:58:33
You know, gay CI, Habib, Connor, Dustin Ferguson, Chandler, Dan Hooker and Charles all there.
00:58:40
That's how I do those top guys.
00:58:41
Do you think could be really gets a rematch? I mean, if it's a close fight, especially if it's controversial.
00:58:47
But, I mean, if the ice is, um Do do you think you see still puts them in there? I mean, any chance to get the UFC wants to shove McGregor into a title fight? McGregor would be epic.
00:58:57
I think you're right on that front.
00:58:58
I think they would maybe try to do that because ideally, I'm sure they're scenario would be, say, G B two b.
00:59:04
You could put Connor in there of Connor beats dhe, and then you did the Habib Khan a rematch with Habib challenging Connor for the title of this time.
00:59:13
And he Connor has all the power and all that kind of stuff.
00:59:16
So I'm sure that would be, like kind of the dream scenario.
00:59:18
I mean, in all honesty, I'm sure they prefer just Habib.
00:59:21
Winds make you do the rematch right there because you still want the undefeated heavy with all that stuff.
00:59:25
But yeah, I do think he's earned his rematch.
00:59:29
I did.
00:59:30
However, it goes what he's done in the UFC, his title reign.
00:59:33
And then you look at what he means that UFC in terms of the Russian market and stuff they don't do pay per views mid afternoon guys, when it comes to, you know, international markets, they're doing it because I think that would be poor if I did like 30 million viewers in Russia or something.
00:59:47
So there, you know, he the weight he carries over there, Yeah, he may not sell, you know, two million paper views on ESPN plus, but what he's bringing in on the other side on his side of the world and the revenue of the UFC still makes off that more than makes up.
01:00:00
The difference goes.
01:00:02
Do you wake up every day hoping? Ferguson says.
01:00:04
Alright, I'll be your Huckleberry and fight you at 2 48.
01:00:07
Michael Chandler.
01:00:08
Or is it too close? Would you just rather G import and Uh huh B fight? Chandler gets his payday, and then Chandler versus Ferguson sometime in December.
01:00:18
Is, is that more ideal? What do you What say you? Yeah, because I mean, I want to see these fighters at their best, and really, I think under that scenario, I don't like it.
01:00:28
I'd rather just let this play out and then let's rebook him.
01:00:31
Give him full camps because, look, man Michael Chandler, he's training and all that, but he's training for two opponents.
01:00:39
He's got Tony Ferguson on his mind over a year.
01:00:42
I don't want to see him take a fight like that on short notice like this.
01:00:45
I want him.
01:00:46
I want him to make his debut be the most prepared guy.
01:00:48
But I'll tell you what, That Tony Ferguson matchup of all the guys that I'm looking at in that division, that's probably one of the tougher matchups for Michael Chandler.
01:00:57
Okay, and then one more while the Connor poi talk We're all we have to do is wait two weeks.
01:01:03
And if hubby wins, there's gonna be some sort of a call out.
01:01:07
Won't Connor say, uh, Dustin, I'll still give you 500 grand or whatever it was we agreed to, but now I'm fighting Hopi like e.
01:01:15
I mean, um, I the only one that sees that like they actually they said the U.
01:01:19
C sent out contracts and everything, but I find it hard to believe people would not fight Connor McGregor if he wins.
01:01:26
Andi, this is no disrespect, Topia.
01:01:29
It's just the U C cells.
01:01:31
These monster fights, they they obsess over.
01:01:35
Yeah.
01:01:36
I mean, as far as I know, no contract with officially being issued toe either corner or Dustin for any of the dates for January 23 for December 12 for November 21st.
01:01:47
I believe it is u S C t 55.
01:01:49
So, yeah, I said this meeting Simon Samana are managing.
01:01:53
I entered it kind of a reaction video and all this stuff happened on Thursday or Friday or whenever it waas.
01:01:59
Um and I basically said, Yeah, like that's the big part to me that doesn't really make sense.
01:02:04
Stay in the white has said since January or since January when Corner the Donald Cerrone, he said at the press conference.
01:02:10
Like ideally, you know, we want him to be fighting for the title.
01:02:13
At that point, we thought the scenario would be Ferguson and be fighting in April.
01:02:18
Hubby would do Ramadan.
01:02:19
They would fight in September when he comes back.
01:02:21
And Connor is like, Oh, I have to wait till September.
01:02:23
Oh, no, Like we weren't really too stoked on that idea, having to keep him out that long.
01:02:28
But there's at this point we're so close to it, help you engage.
01:02:33
You happening? Why would you? Not way It is, you know.
01:02:35
What is it 10 days at this point or something like that? Maybe a little bit less or a little bit more 12 days.
01:02:40
So that's the point to me, like you've waited this long with Connor and you've got him into this position.
01:02:46
You're gonna book him for a fight now, the soon before it happens to me, that's the part where I think it brings a lot in.
01:02:52
And someone else said to me, I think it was Dani Shapiro who you guys know made an interesting point on Twitter and saying that the reason they probably want Card to fight in January is because a lot of people maybe signed up for ESPN plus for the first time to buy Cowboy and Connor McGregor back in January.
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And their one year subscription will conveniently run out right a week before.
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Connor McGregor happens to fight again, and that brings you in and other things, and I know you may laugh, and that means to some people, sound like Thio makes sense.
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It makes all the sense in the world I'm laughing because it does make sense.
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In fact, let me hit you guys with another one.
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Hopefully, someone else hasn't said this, and I'm not repeating it.
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Um, I think Conner this whole season, you know, when he fought a cowboy and he goes, is my season.
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I think he wanted to get three.
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And if he finished guys fast, maybe even the fourth.
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Oh, he really wants that top of the Forbes list, I'm telling you, and he no can outduel Ronaldo and Messi.
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If you could get about three of those in and remember, Mayweather is kind of out of the way.
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That's the guy that crushes everybody.
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I think that's really something he's always obsessed with, and that's just like a power and ego thing.
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So I thought, Why do you wanna do December? Whatever you made versus Cowboy, what you'll make in December? Unless Toby, I don't think it's gonna pass those soccer guys or even the big time N b A.
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Guys, because they lump in your endor*****ts and your your salary, why not wait till January and and see if it can? If everything lines up for you, the for you, then And maybe you could get those three fights in one year, then and then for sure, I think it be hard to argue you wouldn't be at the top of the Forbes list.
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Yeah, it's possible.
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Well, I actually thought was really interesting.
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I listened to an interview.
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Dust imported did today.
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I think it was maybe recorded like yesterday, the day before on Teddy Atlas's podcast, and he said he thinks Connor is trying to fight him because he is a southpaw, boxing based fighter, and it would help him prepare to go into a boxing match with Manny Pacquiao, the preparation and all that kind of stuff.
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So I thought that was an interesting that Dustin, I don't know how much truth there is.
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I don't know what he actually knows that made him think that.
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But when he said it, I was like Huh, That is pretty interesting.
01:05:07
So hey, came prepared on sports management.
01:05:12
Connor McGregor's management companies.
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So I thought he had already signed with Paradigm, like a couple of years ago.
01:05:16
But it sounds like he they agreed on something like it looked like something outside of just, you know, part of their management are part of them being part of his management team.
01:05:26
It looks like there was some sort of another agreement.
01:05:28
There was something weird going on because I know when the first corner came out announcing he was fighting Manny Pacquiao and whatever December in Saudi Arabia, which it's kind of funny, how quickly that went into boxing bust Emporia in a charity match in Ireland, you know, which is basically supposed to be at the same time.
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But nevertheless, um, yeah, I think there's a lot of different elements.
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That and I think Corner is just trying to keep himself out there, and Dustin wants that foot, but yeah, I don't really I don't really know what's gonna happen here.
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You guys think Michael chef's gonna get a fight? I This guy doesn't fight very often.
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I'd love for him to stay on the card.
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I don't care who they shove in there, but I don't think he will.
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There's not a lot of people that raised their hand for that fight.
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Yeah, go out 100 grand to his pay if he takes the market shop fight.
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Yeah, another 100 grand if he wins, right? He did center.
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I believe so. Yeah.
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Uh, so they put up 200 so I don't know.
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I mean, I think they could get someone for Makhashev like there's probably a lightweight out there that's willing to fight him, whether they're in the UFC already or not.
01:06:35
But it's it's most certainly not going to be the type of fight we want for him at this point and not going to be our d a quality.
01:06:42
So that that was a pretty unfortunate fall off that one.
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And hopefully rds feeling all right after the code.
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Yeah, Alright, guys, We're in a little lower.
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Don't think that's the end of the world.
01:06:52
Thanks, Mike Bond for stopping by Mike Bond.
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Mm, a folks.
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He's a great follow on Twitter, one of the best in the business.
01:06:59
He was nominated for best journalist this year.
01:07:02
The world of the main awards.
01:07:03
I believe they said when When everything drive you in October when they were gonna maybe possibly even have a show.
01:07:11
But, Cove, it is this wild card, you know, that's preventing anybody from making any types of plans that involves, like, the type of setting of oven Award show.
01:07:19
So I don't know if they'll just do something virtual or what.
01:07:22
I'm gonna see if I could get with CEO of fighters, only Rob Hewitt and have him come on the show and explain what they're gonna do.
01:07:28
But Mike is included along with John Morgan for best journalists.
01:07:32
I tell you to cast the vote with the voting process has already ended.
01:07:34
Unless you want to go in there.
01:07:35
Maybe you could sneak a couple in there if, uh, in case that hasn't closed.
01:07:40
But Mike Thanks, man.
01:07:42
Thanks for joining us today.
01:07:43
We really appreciate it.
01:07:44
happy Thanksgiving in Canada.
01:07:46
Thank you. Yeah.
01:07:47
And, uh, we'll talk to you soon.
01:07:49
Sounds good, guys. Thanks for having me.
01:07:51
Alright.
01:07:52
See it and goes and I are gonna bounce on out of here.
01:07:54
Um, you know, again, we are coming off a high.
01:07:57
The Los Angeles Lakers won their historic 17 title, and I mean, it doesn't get any better than that.
01:08:05
I think both of our teams got squashed in the NFL, so we were down in the dumps until Sunday night goes.
01:08:11
Did you see Staples Center? They're going crazy over there.
01:08:13
Yeah, that's supposedly if you listen to the police scanners, it's pretty nutty.
01:08:19
63 arrests.
01:08:21
I would Kobe It might be a tame version.
01:08:23
Just kind of like, you know, I love l A planet blasting through some speakers or something like that and everyone go home, but alcohol and youth, they just don't mix.
01:08:35
You know what I mean? You're a crazy story.
01:08:38
Once of a parade, right? You almost died.
01:08:42
What was your tunnel? Um it was a victory parade and I we were getting shot at with rubber bullets and eso.
01:08:52
We've started running me and a buddy Andrew and everybody said this way, you know, they all ran left, so we thought we'd be slick and go. Let's go. Right.
01:09:02
You know, the police in my ward? Yeah.
01:09:05
The police will follow those guys.
01:09:07
So we ran right, and we ended up running into, like, a little bit of a dead end.
01:09:12
So we had to go around, come back down, and then we were walking through a tunnel and then all of a sudden, that whole mob, which had to have at least been to 300 people It was like the running of the bulls.
01:09:23
They were all coming our way, and it was just us to, and we had to kind of, like, get up against the wall.
01:09:29
And just because they were getting shot with rubber bullets.
01:09:32
So they were running, running like it was a stampede, almost got crushed.
01:09:37
I think it would make sense to join them, wouldn't it? If they're running away from rubber bullets, I know Well, the pack is running, but you know, there's only a few in the back there, probably even possible, could get shot.
01:09:49
It's just they're all running at the same time.
01:09:51
Yeah, folks, if you haven't seen the Warriors is a great scene, and their leader clean on says, Run against the grain or something like that.
01:09:58
Alright, we gotta get on out of here.
01:10:00
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along with Goes or the M M.
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A junkie radio team here on our Mondays and Thursdays on SportsCastr We're Here Live for the next hour can talk about the UFC event that just took place out in Abou Daddy.
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It involved Marlin, Mariah's and Corey San Hagen, so we'll definitely go over.
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That will definitely talk about Joakim Buckley's uh, you see spinning back kick heard around the world.
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Except he did it from a 1 ft elevated position.
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Some of the greatest KO ever.
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I don't know.
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We'll discuss that.
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We'll discuss the latest news in the sport of mixed martial arts, including unpacking the lightweight division, which is so I mean, convoluted.
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So much going on.
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McGregor versus Toya.
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Is it official? I don't know.
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It sounds like it.
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Chandler is still willing to fight Ferguson.
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Ferguson's ****ed Apoyo and Chandler when he now it looks like he still has the chance to fight.
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If not, could it happen in December under the foyer McGregor card Islam, aka Chef, was supposed to fight at UFC 2 54 against R G. A.
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I feel dos Anjos who's dropping uh, the 1 55 he's out because the Cove it.
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Chandler doesn't want to find Marcus Sheff.
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It's a mess and the Lakers won their 17th title.
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Uh, it's historic because now they tied the Boston Celtics for most NBA titles.
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Lots to talk about here on the intimate junkie radio show.
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Buckle up, folks.
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Here we go. We'll be right back.
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Alright, folks.
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Uh, sorry.
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Uh, all right, folks.
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On Saturday night we had a UFC event out in Abu Dhabi.
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It's a five week run that they're having it started with UFC 2 53.
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Adesanya versus Acosta.
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We'll finish up, you see 2. 54.
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Tomoko Madoff versus just engaging in between them.
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It's sprinkled in some fight nights and the Fight Night was headlined by Marlon Mariah's vs Corrie San Hagen.
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We'll start right at the top.
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Corey San Hanging Defeated Marlin.
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More ias Uh, this was contested at £135.
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He got him with a wheel kick in the second round off their five round affair Scheduled five round affair.
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Corey San Hagen look great.
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I mean, it's not that Marlon Maya's didn't look good.
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I think Cory San Hagen just look great.
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Almost kind of like when Corey San Hagen lost to algebra and sterling.
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I mean, just sterling just look great.
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So eyes he what? You know what's next for each guy? I don't know.
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I think San Hagen may have to take a fight easy.
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He's even come to the gripping reality a little bit and saying that maybe Frankie Edgar makes sense for him or some other fighter.
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Uh, and, of course, Marlin Rice will try and dust off and get back on the horse.
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Now.
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Marlin Rice did say he thought it was stopped a little early.
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Let's discuss it goes what you think of the fight, what you think of the stoppage? What's next for each guy? The fight was okay.
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I thought they were still trying to figure each other out a little bit.
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It's kind of weird, because for me watching fights now, when somebody lands at CAF kick early on and there isn't too much of a response to it, it's almost like you could see the writing on the wall like not that the fight ended because of that.
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But you could just see it throws fighters off, and Marlin just seemed to be a little off in the beginning because some of the things that 10 Reagan was doing was taking him time to figure out that distance.
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But Marlin stuff and he was getting in there and he was throwing his own shots.
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But it just seemed like early on Cory San Hagen knew exactly what needed to happen and and was already in his flow while I was taking Marlin a little bit to get there.
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So the KO was nice.
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I think we both kind of said it at the same time.
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It looked early stoppage, but at the same time, Marlon didn't really protest and he didn't do one of those things where sometimes you'll see a fighter stand up right away and you can see okay, he's not even having trouble standing.
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Marlon was a little slow to get up, so I think that's just something that maybe you say toe to save face a little bit.
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I agree.
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I think it was a little early, but I think it kind of just worked out.
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And then as Faras, who's next? Frankie Edgar.
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That's a good name.
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He bought a T J Dilla shot, too, and I mean the thing about TJ's, he's such a fun fighter.
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A great stylistic matchup.
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Who doesn't want to see that? But I don't know if I'm one of these fighters.
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I'm not calling T J Dilla shows name like I need t j to come back and let him do his thing and and rebuild himself.
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But I I want to conduct myself as if I'm I'm above T J right now.
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I can understand that.
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But remember, he is a former champion, and TJ will come back to some big fights.
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He left as you know, he was stripped of the bantamweight division, but he left as a defeated flat Wait.
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I mean, whatever you want to dig into that when you talk about who were the greatest band awaits ever, his name comes up dominant.
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Cruz's name comes up.
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Obviously, Cejudo brings his name now, But look, Cejudo deserves to be thrown out there.
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Maybe even Cody Guard brand.
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I don't know.
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That's That's for another day for us to unpack Bad.
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You know that that talk.
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But, um, I guess he gave himself options.
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Frankie Edgar's Onley wanna know as a bantamweight, but still he's Frankie Edgar, for crying out loud, Um, more than anything.
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I think it was just him realizing that, Jeez, unless the UFC really fumbles this one, it's yon and Algemeen sterling all day, probably in December, maybe January.
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Um, and and so does he wanna wait for that winner? Or does he wanna already fight somebody else? I don't know, because he's young and he just looks like he's hungry and wanting to stay active.
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So it was good that he gave himself some options.
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I had no, no, no problems at all with his performance in and out of the Octagon ous faras Marlon, Mariah's goes, Here's the thing when he when he hit him and he fell back, Sam, I mean, look, he took some shots, no doubt about that.
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And I think I think it's confirmed right.
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He broke his orbital, that that's what the San Hagen camp was yelling out.
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But either way, when he fell back, his arms were still in a protective defense mode.
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I think it warranted hard to say whether it's another second or two, because some of these fighters were so quick that you could bring down 10 punches in two seconds.
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Um, but that's what it felt like like just a sequence of San Hagen on top.
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And Marlon Ryan isn't isn't grabbing a leg, grabbing a hold of a leg or really, really protecting himself or maybe Terlingua himself, at least so that now Stan Hagen has the options to put Hooks in and submit him or just keep raining down the options, Something that tells you that he's still in the game.
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I was looking for that.
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Now.
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That said, it's not.
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It shouldn't be some crazy uproar.
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It shouldn't take away from San Hagen's Win 100 or Mariah saying, Look, we're high level, uh, so some fighters get the benefit of this.
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I wish I would have got the benefit of that, and I have no problem with him saying it, But your winner was Cory San Hagen.
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He looked good and he dusted off that.
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That that lost from Algerian Sterling, who imagine if he had lost the morass that that might have been really tough to come back from.
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Yeah, Hudson, really, What, the last two years, I think, have taught us his Corey probably does need to take another fight.
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Regardless, if he feels like he's outside looking in and he's the next guy.
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You just gotta keep fighting and make making money, especially in that division.
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Just because there's so many wild cards that come out of nowhere.
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I would have maybe thought about it for 10 seconds and said No, you know what? I gotta fight.
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I gotta fight someone.
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And I liked the Frankie Edgar name.
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That's a good one.
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Well, yeah, they were supposed to fight.
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I think it was a fight card that was in taking place in san Take place in San Diego.
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I don't know why that stands out, but it was supposed to be at the end of last year, so maybe it wasn't Sandy. I don't know.
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That's not important.
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But they were gonna fight.
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And I remember Edgar took a fight against the zombie because the zombie had lost his opponent.
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I don't remember who that was at this point, but Edgar, uh, step in.
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He thought he lost in San Hagen.
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Just was feeling, you know, I mean, that was his big moment, you know? And then he moved on to something else, but I guess he's over it.
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He understands it because Edgar came out of his mouth, and so he's willing to get down.
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But look, this sand are sorry, Sterling yon fight.
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It's either gonna we're gonna know soon whether it's happening or whether it's not.
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And I think it's gonna be booked for December.
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Just doesn't have tomorrow.
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Guzman vs Gilbert Burns.
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Um, that's That's just not happening.
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It also doesn't have me.
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02 Vs in gone, you.
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I could see them.
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Maybe trying to get that fight booked.
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What seems to be holding things up is Algemeen Sterling coming to terms, financial terms, getting what he wants.
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And but him and Yang had been chirping on Twitter.
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That's cool.
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You know, I like that stuff.
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So I think San Hagen could just enjoy his win for a week or two and find out if Algemeen sterling doesn't come, you know, to agree to an agreement with the UFC.
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I'll bet you the UFC turns of San Hagen quickly, and if they do, then at least he knows when's the date.
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Can I get on the same card that way? I'm some sort of an insurance policy or and I'll just, you know, coming event versus Edgar.
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And I would love that, you know, I love it when the main event and co main event or it doesn't have to be those two, necessarily.
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But at least another high, highly touted fight is, uh, is being disputed on the same night that the champion fights.
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It's great for the timeline, and it puts this huge spotlight on the division, which it would happen more often.
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Plus that allows them to plug and play, not just because of injuries because of Miss Leight's and because of ah, Kobe that you know this stuff that happens with Kobe.
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It could be not, but it could be your coach.
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Don't forget if your coach kids that you still might gets at home right that happened to Brian Ortega.
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Have you ever thought about what the way mixed martial arts would play out primarily, but or take us fighting, right? Yeah.
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Okay, Yeah.
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No, I meant there's been times where the coach gets infected and you still don't fight because you've been near your coach is what I meant.
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But you scared me there.
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I thought that was off.
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Now have you ever sat back and thought how m M a would play out if it wasn't for social media, social media does a lot of the job for the fighters for the promotion, people chirping, going back and forth, letting us know what exactly is going on.
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I'm not getting the money I want.
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This guy doesn't want to fight me.
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Have you ever thought what it would be like if you just took Twitter or instagram away for for a couple months how different everything would play out? Well, I've seen it.
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Likely some people might relate.
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You should relate, goes when I bring it up.
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But honestly, these websites, the comment section, the underground I got to give credit to the underground website.
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A lot of guys would go in there and talk there smack, and sometimes a fight could be birth there.
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But yeah, it was these types of shows where people would go on and and the website would produce a recap, you know, talking about it.
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Um but I think we would revert to that.
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But I have no problem with the way it's gone down, because guess what.
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I'm I'm a junkie as a twitter page.
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Um, I'm a junkie, has a new instagram page. So we're right there.
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Were right in there throwing elbows.
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If you ever peruse the comment section, it could get pretty entertaining.
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They're not just with the fans, but other fighters.
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Also charming in.
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But yeah, you're right.
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I mean, social media does does a lot, you know? And God bless you.
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Seize announcers.
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They try, you know, they'll put that microphone and go, What's next for you? You know, you guys hit it out of the park like ****ey Gall.
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He's one of the greatest of all time when it comes to getting what he wants.
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And there's some that just they just want to get back to the locker room shower, hop on a plane to get home.
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You know, uh, as happy as I am that the Lakers won the championship and I'm staring at you wearing Laker golden and purple.
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It's also driving me bananas.
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You wanna why? You didn't ask me for permission to wear that This? Yeah.
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You don't remember? That was my Christmas gift.
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Ah, well, OK, but we settle that eyes.
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This actually your size and everything because it's it's my size.
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But yeah, it goes is right.
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It is it Waas.
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It was staged.
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Is this Christmas gift and then uh, he came to find out that it wasn't.
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I replaced it right.
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You got something you have not had opened up back to back presence.
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One was a pair of pillows that George and I were supposed to share on.
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Then, after giving that Frank Mir face, I opened up, uh, Georgia's president, which was the president to him.
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That was that was a pretty good team.
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12 punch.
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Yeah, well, I don't know.
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Everyone's gonna understand what happened here.
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So what What happened was, if I'm not mistaken, I think I ran out of time because I begin on my shopping on the 24th.
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And I think I ran out of time with, goes or just couldn't figure out what he wanted or something went wrong. I don't know.
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So I put this Laker Uh huh, sweatshirt in a box that was gifted.
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It said from George to goes, he opened it. He's ecstatic.
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He's a Lakers fan.
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Um, did you notice right away or you are doing okay, So I was keeping an eye on goes because I knew that the minute he saw that my fat ass the double X, that double X and not l cause that goes inside large.
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As soon as he saw that he would look at me and then I would just give him a look.
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And that look is the 42 years that I've known him.
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He should understand that What that means, it means Shut up.
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We'll deal with this later.
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You know, Don't make me look like a fool.
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Eso He was happy.
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He was stoked, so apparently he didn't see the size.
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We're all good.
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And e guess you figured it out the next day.
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Maybe now I figured it out like a little while later when I was showing somebody else and they go, That's double.
00:15:16
Excellent.
00:15:17
What? When I looked at it, man, I know what this guy did, but that's not the first time.
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Another time you have got a jacket.
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You got me a jacket once.
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And I picked it out and I thought it was dope. Wasn't Adidas.
00:15:30
Jacket was yellow.
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And when I went to open my president from you, it was just some random thing.
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And I was like, What is this, like, extra or what? And then I see our uncle opened up his gift and it was my jacket.
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Remember that the yellow jacket don't work out.
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You didn't have a present for him.
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So you panicked and you gave him mine.
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But I remember him opening it up.
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I remember the first thought going through my head was, Hey, he got one, like, being here.
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So, like, I just I just didn't do the math.
00:16:00
And then I finally realized Oh, wait, I know what happened.
00:16:04
But anyway, all right, let's see here.
00:16:08
Let me go through the rest of the card.
00:16:09
And then I want to talk about walking Buckley, who deserves some shine.
00:16:14
In the co main event of Saturday's card, Edson Barboza defeated Ma Kwan.
00:16:19
American E goes, It was pretty simple for Mercante.
00:16:23
He tried to stand, but it wasn't going good for a man.
00:16:26
He was getting socked up pretty good at times.
00:16:28
Other times he was hanging in there, throwing a couple shots of his own.
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But, you know, over the course of 15 minutes, it wasn't serving them right.
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So eventually started getting some of those takedowns.
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And I'll tell you what, towards the end, Uh, you know, if he gets that third take or that take down in the third and could secure some writing time.
00:16:47
Writing time? You never know.
00:16:49
You might have snuck out of there with the wind, but you know, Edson Barboza was the clear, better fighter over 15 minutes and now he wants some big names.
00:17:01
1.
00:17:02
45 is this division.
00:17:03
He's one and one now.
00:17:04
He lost a controversial decision to Danny Gay.
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Those were his words.
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I thought it was Cleary gay One.
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Well, remember was close, but, uh, he's now one and one, but he's Edson Barboza.
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When you shift from one weight class to the other and you've accomplished things in the other one, trust me, the UCC that we see that way see it, too.
00:17:25
That wasn't odd fight because it wasn't Americanas worst performance.
00:17:32
And it wasn't really Edson's best performance, right, because you're right.
00:17:37
Had he gotten that takedown, it probably would have been like an ugly wind for him and Barbosa getting the wind.
00:17:46
I mean, Amir Khan, he started Thio gas out a little bit, so I think that's when Edison started letting go a little bit more.
00:17:52
So the end of the fight looked way better from but early on It just didn't seem like we like.
00:17:58
It's a new exactly what it was he wanted to do in that fight.
00:18:02
It was it wasn't like his best performance, but it wasn't bad at the same time.
00:18:06
But, I mean, you have a fighting off some takedown because remember, he would on.
00:18:11
And then he was trying his own version of the front choke that Americana is really, really good at.
00:18:16
But the problem, the more you do that, the more you kind of play with a slippery python.
00:18:21
You know, like, if you go to the fair and then hey, you wanna wear this snake? It's a real snake.
00:18:25
And you're like, Okay, you know, and you put it on, you take your picture and then you go kindly take it off.
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At least that's how I ask because I'm petrified of snake.
00:18:35
You take it off and then you just go on about your business, right? You don't say, Hey, can you wrap them around me, put a blindfold on and then why don't you go get us a pair of hot dogs? I'll just keep the steak company ****ing because if the stink starts squeezing and something goes wrong and you panic.
00:18:51
It could be all over.
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And so Barboza was doing a little bit of a version of this.
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A little bit of a version of that.
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When I thought when I thought the best thing for him to do was to stand up, Man, you're you're you're using this guy And I'm saying this with a lot more passion.
00:19:06
A lot more curse words, because I bet Barbosa.
00:19:09
But look, I know there's a lot of smart M m a fans that air going well.
00:19:13
Yeah, well, GDR water fight after being the better fighter on the stand up.
00:19:18
So I I get that I get that I really do.
00:19:22
All right.
00:19:23
But she was that close to getting caught to to getting mounted and possibly losing that fight.
00:19:28
Same thing with Barbosa.
00:19:29
I think that's the worst of the two situations.
00:19:31
If you go home and you go and they go, what happened and you go I lost, man.
00:19:35
He choked me out.
00:19:36
I was messing with him.
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He reversed me.
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Or or, you know, just I'll handle me and I got choked out.
00:19:45
That stings.
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But if you go home and you go Hey, I want I had the chance to someone, but I didn't.
00:19:51
That doesn't sting as much.
00:19:53
You had the chance with your fun once things more than the other.
00:19:56
Always keep that in mind.
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And it almost goes back to what we were talking about with James.
00:20:00
Crowds goes, Thank you.
00:20:02
Mhm.
00:20:03
Yeah.
00:20:04
Um, you know, the snake you you brought up at the carnival I had that happened to me at the indoor swap meet here in Vegas.
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The most surprising thing ever, Because you would never expect I was.
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It's the fantastic one.
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You know, when George it's real. Get up.
00:20:24
But I was looking old wrestling dolls for Elvis, and I turned around, and I just here.
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Hey, you wanna gonna have my snake on your shoulders? It's only five bucks, and it was like Jake the snake, whatever.
00:20:36
That is. A python.
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It was like, right here.
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I turned around.
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It was right here.
00:20:41
Do you have, like, uh, snakes? Facebook? Twitter? Yeah, because he had him like this.
00:20:46
Hey, just had it like like he was just ready to put him on me.
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But I didn't even see that or nothing like that was literally.
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It was like a tattoo guy here, a toy thing here and, like, hot dog stand.
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And then I guess he was next.
00:20:58
I don't know what the hell he had, but he people just pay to take a picture with snake on him.
00:21:03
But I mean, came and just being in target, and all of a sudden there's a boa constrictor.
00:21:06
Like it was so shocking.
00:21:08
I gotta ask questions.
00:21:10
First of all, does he still have his fangs? Is he poisoning? I got to go through, like, literally one of these, you know, like a clipboard and check off.
00:21:19
Okay.
00:21:20
Yeah.
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You know, he's 200 years old, has no aggression.
00:21:25
I mean, I don't know, because I want nothing to do with that.
00:21:28
I don't see the need to take that picture.
00:21:31
Um, but if you can answer about a good 10 questions and it's the friendliest thing in the world, OK, get the picture and then get the **** out of my life.
00:21:40
I don't need to sit there and ask any more questions.
00:21:43
I don't need to pet him.
00:21:44
I don't need to ask the steak if he has kids.
00:21:46
What? His favorite teams are nothing like that.
00:21:49
Um, but Edson, you know, he toyed a little bit in.
00:21:53
Uh, it's not like he had poor technique.
00:21:55
These guys are amazing athletes, but I noticed each time he was just bring you more life toe Americana versus when he was socking him up and actually knocking him down American his face was like he was over.
00:22:09
I'm getting torched in here, you know, like you know what I mean.
00:22:12
And you got to remember that, folks, you get well, not not you guys because you guys don't fight.
00:22:16
But fighters, young fighters, especially Ah, go back and listen to our interview with James Crowns here on SportsCastr is the last one we did here on our page.
00:22:25
Www dot SportsCastr dot com forward slash and I'm a junkie.
00:22:29
He talks about five different facets, um, of the fighting career of strategy that he implores on all of his athletes and one of them just straight up I ke Where you your strongest? Where is he or she their weakest? Um alright.
00:22:47
Continuing in the future About which is the third one from the top marching to borrow fought Ben Rothwell goes What a pace for these big heavyweights.
00:22:58
I mean, did I hear that been through 130 plus punches.
00:23:03
Just been around one alone.
00:23:04
Yeah, strikes in total.
00:23:06
That that's insane.
00:23:07
And it's one of those things where, like, Ben, I think started to tire out towards the fight, and I think that really did affect them.
00:23:14
But you can't blame them, because how many other times do we just say, man, You left, You know, you left something there, you could have gone for it.
00:23:20
You could have done it. He did.
00:23:22
He took a chance.
00:23:23
It didn't work out.
00:23:24
But he did pay for it later on in the fight.
00:23:26
And I think that's probably what got him because early on, his punches were hurting him.
00:23:31
But then it just seemed like they didn't have that steam.
00:23:33
And, um, he was having problems like, I think he would have been more successful if he would have got him up against the cage.
00:23:40
A little bit hung on him.
00:23:42
Kind of like what he did the S P.
00:23:44
But it just wasn't big Ben's night.
00:23:46
And it's one of those fights where I think if they bought 10 times, it might be split, but that was tough for big band fans.
00:23:55
Yeah, it waas and credit to Martine tomorrow because he took a long shots.
00:24:00
Look, band was throwing a lot.
00:24:02
I love this activity.
00:24:03
You can't say that was a boring fight for sure, and he went after it.
00:24:08
But I would say if I had to criticize, it's that a lot of shots also missed.
00:24:14
And I'm wondering if you could just be more efficient with it.
00:24:16
A lot of times you hear the coaches just touch touch him, it adds up.
00:24:20
And it was adding up.
00:24:21
But, man, when he committed to like his uppercut, for example, or when he just threw, like a straight right rather than just the, you know, follow and follow that That following followed that.
00:24:30
That that, um he really, really hurt Tabora and credit to Tabora.
00:24:35
You know, he hurt Ben Rothwell right back.
00:24:37
We all had it about 11 going into the third and in the third, just one guy was younger pressure, and, uh, that made a huge, huge difference.
00:24:49
You know, he basically dominated.
00:24:53
I mean, I think that's where the 10 8 came from.
00:24:55
If I'm not mistaken.
00:24:56
Uh, once he got him down, it was it was a rap.
00:25:00
So yeah, your big If you're a big Ben Rothwell fan, like goes and I are like a lot of junky nation is It's a tough one, you know? But he did come out to fight.
00:25:11
You salute him for that.
00:25:12
He's been busy ever since he came back from his to your suspension that he had a few years ago so good for him putting some money away.
00:25:19
Hopefully, you know, every time a fighter loses folks and we don't know these contracts situations, you know, we don't ask him as often as we used to, but if you are paid wealth older and coming off a loss, especially one that's not exciting, a lot of times that might be it for you.
00:25:39
Ben's older, he's coming off a loss.
00:25:41
But that fight was exciting, so I'm hoping that he gets a little bit of the Andrei Arlovski treatment.
00:25:45
Were like, Hey, we know you're not necessarily contending for a title, but, man, you're a stiff test for the up and comer on, and you're a name, you know, that we can put you on a card that where fans go All right, Cool.
00:25:57
You know, I'm popping open a beer because big bends on the card because Andres on the card, you know, those guys have been past their prime, and again, they're not contending.
00:26:05
But there's still, uh, heavyweights just a little bit more.
00:26:09
Must see TV.
00:26:11
They graduate a lot quicker, so must see TV like the Diego's like the Cowboys.
00:26:16
And I guess it's just because of that Big one punch power.
00:26:18
Well, yeah, we've been groomed our entire life in boxing that the baddest man on the planet is the heavyweight champion of the world transfers over to mixed martial arts as well.
00:26:28
And your guy always has a chance because they have that power.
00:26:32
All right, I wanna welcome to the show one of the nominees for this year's World Emmy Awards in the best journalist category.
00:26:39
He's been a colleague of ours for almost a decade.
00:26:42
Help, uh, he's no longer young Mike Bomb.
00:26:44
He's just Mike Bond.
00:26:45
What's up? Like Bob? Middle aged Mike Long. I'm getting there.
00:26:49
I'm good.
00:26:51
Yes.
00:26:52
Yeah, thanks for having me on e Think it's being It was seven years.
00:26:54
August 1st junkie.
00:26:55
So that decade is coming up quick.
00:26:58
Alright, cool.
00:26:59
It's been a great ride with you.
00:27:01
And are you are you 30 year? You are 30 right? No, I'm 29.
00:27:05
I'll be 30 in May.
00:27:06
Alright, So you're young like mine Until May.
00:27:09
Then and then after that, we have to think of another one.
00:27:11
We did the same thing with Melvin Guillard, the young assassin Ringo's way.
00:27:15
We're like, Okay, hold on a second.
00:27:17
You're 35.
00:27:18
We gotta figure something out.
00:27:19
And I think he got the chance.
00:27:21
He did? He did. He did.
00:27:23
Well, speaking of chins and that kind of talk, the California kid, you're I favor.
00:27:27
So he was, like, 40 something way.
00:27:29
Got a lot of these going on a Christian.
00:27:32
Hey, real quick.
00:27:34
You know, we just went over the top three fights, but let's get your thoughts.
00:27:37
Um uh, we'll start with San Hagan versus Mariah's.
00:27:41
Would you think of the fight? Did you think the stop? It was a little early, Like Mariah's implied, uh, post flight, maybe Like a touch, but not too bad.
00:27:50
I mean, he didn't really complain in the moment. I could understand.
00:27:53
Like hindsight the rest did not give him much of an opportunity.
00:27:56
Once he got dropped from that kick, Sand Hagen came out on top of him and I assume, would have just kept throwing strikes there.
00:28:02
But, yeah, he would get a ton of moments to either, like, you know, curl up or do whatever he needed to do to show that he really, really wasn't fighting.
00:28:09
And he wasn't completely out.
00:28:10
So maybe you could have given a few more, but I don't think he was recovering from that.
00:28:13
Even if you somehow got back up to this feet and like, back into the fight, that was so much momentum in San Hague instruction at that point, I think it would have just being an even uglier and more punishment field ending for him.
00:28:25
And that usually is the case in about 95% of those early stoppages, you know where? Okay, Maybe the guy grabs a single and maybe the clock is eight seconds, and you can write it out, get on the stool, clear the cobwebs, comeback compete.
00:28:38
And maybe to some sort of a comeback.
00:28:40
But yeah, most of time.
00:28:41
They're usually done most of time we're usually saving them from those additional shots that can rock.
00:28:46
Um, but it's because of the history of the game that this has happened, that I understand the fighter when they say what they say.
00:28:55
And, you know, those losses must be so devastating.
00:28:58
You're just looking to something, something to cling onto.
00:29:01
Hey, get me a fight again.
00:29:03
This was stopped early.
00:29:04
I'm one of the best.
00:29:05
You know, I knocked out the guy that might be fighting Yang soon And algebra Sterling.
00:29:09
Why is that? Not me.
00:29:10
I understand those frustrations.
00:29:12
So, um, God bless Marlin Rice.
00:29:15
He's still a great band.
00:29:17
I'm waiting.
00:29:18
You know, he'll he'll be matched up against somebody else soon.
00:29:20
They you know, and he'll have to live to fight another day.
00:29:23
Yeah, he want that December turn around.
00:29:25
I mean, if he had taken more shots and being completely put out fighting in December, bro.
00:29:29
So it might not even happen now, but even the option wouldn't be on the table if he had taken more punishment.
00:29:35
So you gotta kind of looking at both sides of corn there, but yeah, well, Mahrez is unrealized.
00:29:40
Tough loss for, but he's still gonna be top five bands when I think there's tons of fun fights for him.
00:29:45
So you know what, though, is like we were talking about Mike Bond and he's been our colleague for almost a decade now.
00:29:52
Think about how long ago was George that we were at the Planet Hollywood, and a young Marlon Riots was fighting Miguel Torres.
00:30:00
Remember that? We all kind of like, Who's this? And I think these guys travel over to the UFC and granted, he came over as a champion.
00:30:08
But some people didn't see that part of his career.
00:30:10
You know, we just know him for the UFC thes veterans man.
00:30:14
It only takes like there's these type of fights where overnight they start to look old.
00:30:18
And I don't feel like that was Marlon just yet.
00:30:21
But these are the type of fights that I think kind of set that tone for the next match up that he gets.
00:30:26
And he's lucky because he's got one of those styles that I think everybody wants to tune in and watch, and I hope he gets a good one and gets right back on track because Marlon is one of the best fighters in the world.
00:30:36
Yeah, I don't think he necessarily look like bad or anything.
00:30:38
I think Cory San Hagen just look really, really, really **** good.
00:30:41
I think that was more to do with anything like that.
00:30:43
First round was kind of classic Marlin on.
00:30:45
Then he got caught pretty early in the second.
00:30:47
So that's what I saw in there.
00:30:49
I saw just Corey San Hagen have his breakout moment more so than Madeline.
00:30:53
Marie is not being himself for not meeting his potential or anything.
00:30:56
I think he just ran into a bad style matchup in a guy who had a serious point to prove Corey San Hagen.
00:31:01
And boy, did you do it? That was sensational stuff, All right.
00:31:05
And Mike von Toast about Edson Barboza in the mirror.
00:31:09
Uh, sorry, Marijuana Mercante.
00:31:10
That was the co main event, American.
00:31:13
He was getting owned on the feet, but he almost looked for, uh, some openings there on the ground.
00:31:19
That could have been trouble for Barbosa, especially if he gets a dominant position.
00:31:22
Yeah, I mean, he tried his best in there, but I just that kind of when, as I expected it thio just a bad style matchup for a mere Connie.
00:31:30
He was able Thio, you know, not get dropped on the feet for a while there.
00:31:34
But when it ultimately came, it really started crashing down on him.
00:31:37
And Barbosa was just landed those lightning quick punches that put him down.
00:31:41
So yeah, very important win for Barboza there.
00:31:45
I think I don't think he's ever really like falling off a guy that we thought was on a downward slide.
00:31:49
He just ran into some tough results.
00:31:51
I mean, back to back split decisions could have easily gone his way.
00:31:54
We were talking about this man in a very different light here on this Monday, right now if he was on a three fight winning streak instead of being one and three in his last four fights.
00:32:03
But I think you kind of look at his body of work there.
00:32:06
What he did against anti gay, how good that fight was, what he did here against Amir.
00:32:10
Connie, who's like top 15 a featherweight can't say Edson Barboza is not like at the top of this division.
00:32:16
I really want to see him fight someone who's like Elsie, said top five top six see how good he can be there.
00:32:22
You don't have too many guys like this.
00:32:23
Man, like Barboza was a top 10 lightweight for how many years? They're probably the better part of a decade.
00:32:28
And then here he is, moving down division and establishing himself as a top 10 guy.
00:32:32
There.
00:32:33
You don't see too many people capable of doing that.
00:32:34
So that's pretty impressively that if you never gets to the title or anything, like, uh, you are so right.
00:32:40
Because if he had won the EEG a fight he'd beat two and O and then bringing over that stock from the lightweight division of how good he's been over the past decade, we could easily be inserting them in there with the caters And, you know, the I ears, zombies or takers that air trailing, you know, the channel.
00:32:57
But instead, that lost just, you know, it makes him 11 a featherweight, and he will just have toe.
00:33:04
He'll probably get another name because he still has some stock.
00:33:06
But boy, he could be right up there, you know, like Frankie Edgar.
00:33:10
He debuted at 1 35 got the win, and he's getting called out like Cory San Hagen? Yep. No.
00:33:17
Lots of interesting fights for Barboza there.
00:33:19
Obviously.
00:33:20
You know, he had kind of seen and done it all and fought everyone out.
00:33:22
Lightweight, You know, the tail end of his tenure there.
00:33:25
He was just fighting guys again.
00:33:26
You have the rematch with Felder and his last one.
00:33:28
And, yeah, kind of brought a fresh coat of paint to his career.
00:33:32
I think his abilities really translate well there.
00:33:35
There's not too many guys that are like, you know, the Habib's, the Ferguson's that air gonna be doing, being able to do what they did.
00:33:41
Tens of are both out lightweight in terms of grappling and out featherweight.
00:33:45
So I think that's a pretty good sign for him.
00:33:47
I think you know, I don't know if he's gonna be champion, especially is like 34 35 now.
00:33:51
But I could see Edson Barboza maybe getting into that title fight that eluded him. A lightweight.
00:33:56
Yeah, for sure, And where we might bring up Barbosa's name one more time in just a sec.
00:34:01
When we discuss greatest Keough's ever.
00:34:04
We'll get to walking Buckley.
00:34:05
But that's one.
00:34:06
What do you think of marching tomorrow.
00:34:08
And Ben Rothwell? I mean, it was a heavyweight fight.
00:34:13
E think there's too much to say like Gun Roth Wall.
00:34:15
That was a fun start for him.
00:34:17
You came out throwing insane volume, so that was good.
00:34:20
But I think it kind of goes to show that heavyweight you need toe pace yourself a little more because he once you got put on the ground that third round, either tippers, top pressure was that good or Ben Rockwell's? It was just that tired and had kind of let everything out of the tank that he couldn't get himself out from on bottoms.
00:34:37
So yeah, I mean, it was kinda would be nice to see your author all gonna win, especially after, like, everything is hometown of Kenosha is being through and just all that leading in.
00:34:45
And it's kind of on the tail end of his career in some ways.
00:34:49
And you had a nice couple winds coming into this, But yeah, I mean Tiber as a guy, he It's usually pretty ugly when he goes in there, but he finds a way to win quite a bit.
00:34:58
I thought his post, like called of Derrick Lewis, was kind of interesting.
00:35:02
I think that fight's gonna happen.
00:35:03
But he did make some good points.
00:35:05
He's like I was winning that fight up until I wasn't.
00:35:07
I think you know a lot of guys who have lost Derek Lewis would probably say that exact same thing, but he's done good stuff in there against, like, some top names.
00:35:14
So tempers, you know, on the younger side, he's not.
00:35:17
Why these heavyweights, who's closer to 40 than he is 30.
00:35:20
So that's kind of a good sign, and we'll see what he can do.
00:35:23
Another guy from Poland who is getting big ones, uh, good momentum for that country right now.
00:35:28
Alexander Volkov could say the same thing.
00:35:30
What was he like? 15 seconds like running a little? Yeah, all right.
00:35:36
So, guys, there was some really, really good action throughout the card, and I'll go over some of the results in just a sec.
00:35:42
But let's just get walking Buckley, because everyone's at the water cooler talking about this.
00:35:46
If you're on the East Coast, you're discussing it over lunch.
00:35:49
If you're on the West Coast right now, you're in the break room and eating a breakfast sandwich.
00:35:52
But everyone's talking about it.
00:35:54
It was a thing of beauty.
00:35:55
Some are going so far as to say it's the greatest ever.
00:35:58
Our colleague Dave Doyle will politely disagree.
00:36:01
And look, there's nothing wrong with saying if that's your opinion, it was pretty spectacular.
00:36:05
But I gotta ask you to Is it for you right at the top.
00:36:08
And if not, what? What keeps it from being a Top Z close? I just don't think it's number one, um, for me to put it up there, like, if this was like a championship fight or a contender fight or something like that, then, yeah, but to me, with these knockout stakes do matter quite a bit.
00:36:29
And I mean there there's no perfect answer here, right? Like everyone is like pound for pound or something like that.
00:36:34
Everyone's gonna have what they value Mawr is that, you know, technique is that the shock value is that the overall historical meaning is that an upset is it.
00:36:42
You know, all these different measurements that could go into it.
00:36:45
And for me, I kind of put Valium or on the stakes and the historical meaning and stuff, like I think, you know, if you want to add something that's like we've never seen it before a crazy knockout, but put it in like higher six.
00:36:56
You know, look at the Yeah, Rodriguez and Korean Zombie naka like To me, that's slightly above that.
00:37:02
That was a main event.
00:37:03
A you know, maybe not a title eliminator for a super important fight.
00:37:07
That weight class and it was a knockout we've never seen before by a guy who was losing the fight with one second left like that to me is slightly above this one.
00:37:15
But this It was incredible in terms of purely, like just show someone a knockout and a highlight and maybe pick without knowing anything about, you know, the fighters or what it means or anything I think you could put Maybe, you know, the top five knockouts, top 10 knockouts and UFC history in front of a person, and they would probably pick that is one or two.
00:37:33
So on that pure alone, it's right there with all the rest.
00:37:36
But there is some other ones.
00:37:37
You know, Holly Holm over Rhonda Rousey.
00:37:39
Even I put about that because of all the elements dimensions, so it's probably taught five for me, but I don't think it breaks like my talk to or top three.
00:37:48
How about you guys? Yeah, I think if you look at it that way, then yeah, it just can't compete.
00:37:53
But I'm one of those guys that when you know we're at the Mandalay Bay and we're watching the highlights from the night before and you're watching the top 10 plays, it always drives me nuts when it's when the number one player is a guy maybe saving a home run or something like that.
00:38:07
It's not that it's not big, it's just it happens all the time.
00:38:11
You know, there's times that you see things in other sports that just rarely happened.
00:38:15
And they're like the number three player, the number four player or something like that.
00:38:18
This is one of those times where this just rarely happens, you know, for somebody to be holding, like to generate that much power off of the same leg that you're using.
00:38:27
The kick is pretty tremendous.
00:38:29
So for me, it's pretty high up there.
00:38:31
Um, but yeah, probably in the top five around there.
00:38:35
Zombie was pretty good, though.
00:38:37
Yeah, I'm Barboza to mention it Well, we've never seen something like that before, so yeah, I mean again, it's like, No, I don't think there is 100% accurate answer.
00:38:48
Everyone's gonna have their own measurements and how they do this.
00:38:51
So I'm cool with, you know, anyone who says it's the best ever. I'm cool with someone.
00:38:55
Saying another thing is the best ever.
00:38:57
Like we're kind of splitting hairs here in a lot of ways.
00:38:59
Can never a topic on this church.
00:39:02
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:03
What did you guys think of Scott Van Pelt and everything that happened there on Twitter and all that? I didn't see what happened.
00:39:09
So he was very critical of it.
00:39:11
Like he just kind of blew it off like, yeah, Okay, guy getting hurt.
00:39:15
Let's all cheer for that.
00:39:16
You know, that sort of, like attitude towards it.
00:39:18
But if you go through Twitter and the people that came at him throughout the night, his responses were pretty d like I think you pulled back a little bit, but I don't know.
00:39:26
I thought that I thought that was kind of cheesy.
00:39:28
What do you think, Mike? So I didn't see it live, but this obviously you know, being up here in Canada, we don't get your guys this edition of SportsCenter.
00:39:36
But as far as I know, you know, they kind of let the broadcast off.
00:39:39
Showing the knockout in Scotland poll was kind of like like, you know, that's, like, tough to watch or something that kind of downplayed it a little bitter, like, you know, this is too violent or whatever, and I think it was more like the image of, you know, that moment where input was kind of frozen up and many tower to the canvas that just with that big impact and smashed his head on the canvas, there's just like, Yeah, I guess I kind of cringe for him in that sense.
00:40:02
And a lot of people came after him and, like, you know, why is there why are you putting an anchor on ESPN? Who's gonna crap on the sport, all that kind of stuff.
00:40:10
But that's kind of what I appreciate about some of these guys, like we're not going to sit here.
00:40:15
I think we all have been covering this long enough to know the sport isn't for everyone.
00:40:19
It's not gonna be bigger than soccer. One day.
00:40:21
It's not going to do all these things like there's just gonna be a portion of people and, you know, maybe they're the people that are more normal than we are in the sense that, like watching people get crushed with these kind of knockouts and take this kind of brain damage.
00:40:34
It's not like normal.
00:40:35
In some ways, you know, I could There could be some people.
00:40:37
You could like the fighter as much as you want.
00:40:39
You could explain to them the history of the sport, the technique, all these things.
00:40:42
We're not just gonna fall head over heels within.
00:40:45
Wanna watch every fight like we do.
00:40:46
And I'm not mad at that anymore.
00:40:48
They used to be a time where maybe you try to convince people like, Oh, you know this thing or the other thing if they said something negative.
00:40:54
But I think the sports being around long enough being on big platforms like Fox and ESPN long enough that you're probably gonna make up your mind.
00:41:02
And I don't think Scott Van Pelt dislikes mm, A by any means.
00:41:05
I've seen him do some great interviews with ****ysts and fighters on SportsCenter and stuff like that.
00:41:11
I think he knows the sport pretty well.
00:41:12
You know, in comparison to some other people that would be in that position.
00:41:15
And I don't mind him voicing his opinion about that.
00:41:19
It seems like, Yes, the end didn't give him, uh, you know, give him any backlash or anything like that.
00:41:25
So so be it.
00:41:26
You know, it's not gonna be for everyone.
00:41:27
Everyone's gonna have their own opinion.
00:41:29
I'm fun with it.
00:41:30
I got the quote here, e I get that. People of it.
00:41:34
I don't I don't I don't love that.
00:41:37
The guy is out smashes his head on the ground.
00:41:39
Yea.
00:41:40
Um, so right away, when when you go to social media, people are laying into him going well, don't people get knocked out in football? You know, don't people get And then here's the thing, man.
00:41:51
I think it was last week that was a boxer.
00:41:52
That kind of went out and somebody pulled that clip up of him, kind of laughing at that.
00:41:58
So they were saying, Wow, it was funny in boxing.
00:42:00
But But if you look at Scott Van Pelt's responses to everything, I thought he did pretty well.
00:42:05
I thought actually conceded that point on one of the guys that you kind of have a point there, but but, yeah, it kind of.
00:42:12
It's that harsh reality that we have to remember that the people that that feel that way, like Scott Van Pelt, there's a lot of them.
00:42:21
There are a lot of people.
00:42:22
That's why when we're at the Mandalay Bay in the sports book and there's a fight, not everybody's rushed in there.
00:42:27
The way football Sunday is Randy, there are a lot of people with that type of opinion still, and but he stuck to his guns on it, for sure.
00:42:36
I mean, again, stop forever.
00:42:38
And look what happened in football with, like that press Scots ankle that, like you think people want to be sitting there watching that bent like twisted foot pointing the opposite direction of it should be on national television stuff like that.
00:42:49
You know, not some people are not going to enjoy the violent side of that, and people in football get hurt all the time.
00:42:54
So, like, you know, no, no sport is gonna be forever on that visual.
00:42:58
It's not gonna be for everyone.
00:42:59
And I'm beyond the point in being like involved in sports coverage.
00:43:04
And you know, this industry in particular, of trying to convince people that they need toe think one way or the other.
00:43:10
I mean, if you have some completely outrageous opinion based in fantasy and not reality, and you criticize it based off that, then okay, But if you just aren't on board with seeing people get knocked out in that way, which is completely fair, because that was a bad, bad, bad knockout that's cool.
00:43:27
It was spectacular.
00:43:29
It was violent.
00:43:30
If it wasn't for him, that's cool.
00:43:31
As long as he's consistent, you know somebody goes.
00:43:34
Five years ago.
00:43:35
Here's his reaction to when Marquez knocked out Pacquiao Pacquiao.
00:43:38
I went through the through the ropes and he's showing some comfort of level.
00:43:42
So some level of comfort towards like embracing how beautiful that was and not our sport, then that's when we have a problem.
00:43:50
If he's consistent across the board.
00:43:51
Okay, cool.
00:43:52
Something to maybe like, you know, people arm or over the years tailored to like boxing, you know, and seeing boxing knockouts and you know that goes, that's a much longer history.
00:44:04
It's a lot more violence.
00:44:05
See you guys spin and kick the dude in the jaw or like a crazy elbow or somewhere ahead kick in another way.
00:44:12
Do you think that plays into it all? People just, you know, maybe in that sense, art is accustomed to that.
00:44:17
And they are seeing some boxing knockout, which we've seen highlights up for decades at this point a little bit and a little bit, probably because of the social media culture that we have now.
00:44:27
We're a fight on the subway.
00:44:33
Ah, fight on the streets, a fight at school, you know? And then, you know, a lot of these people have kids I don't have kids with.
00:44:39
A lot of people have kids, and they just they may have set up the principal's office, you know, two days ago, trying to stick up for their kid who defended themselves against the bully.
00:44:47
Or maybe those people were bullying.
00:44:49
And I think it just brings something out of people that it reminds them of their past, their neighborhood, you know.
00:44:55
And whereas boxing I think we all saw it is just something so untouchable that we had an admiration for the sport, like look what these guys were doing.
00:45:03
And, you know, it was an Olympic sport.
00:45:06
This sport kind of came out of nowhere, you know, and and hit us, you know, like a cold bucket of water. And it's for some.
00:45:13
It's not further.
00:45:14
I have good buddies that got in fights every weekend, and I told this should be right down your alley.
00:45:20
You like ****ing people up on a Saturday night? You know what I mean? And you and hear all the sudden it's like the blood that this of that I don't get it, you know, For some, it just registers.
00:45:29
And for some, it doesn't on.
00:45:32
Then there's some of the, well, whatever some of the non athletic dudes or whatever that that I am falling with the mouth and love every sucking of it, You know what I mean? So I like Mike said, I think I'm done trying to figure out who is for and who it isn't for, but just like it is.
00:45:47
I'll tell you this much.
00:45:48
If I had his spot and you know, they told me here is the list.
00:45:52
You know, the 10 best plays or whatever, and I go sometimes made a 35 ft putt.
00:45:57
You want me to get excited about that? I'm not in the golf, you know, on that might be me. Gone.
00:46:01
Hey, would be, You know, he he made he made the shot because, uh, you know so that so that might be his version of what golf is to me to be here.
00:46:10
I think a lot of people have that attitude because when you look at boxing big gloves, right, when you look at hockey, they're wearing pads, football.
00:46:19
They're wearing pads like they're feel.
00:46:21
There's that humanity side to it.
00:46:23
Where here it's just you could see that down the street, right? Somebody just boom shin on somebody.
00:46:28
It's just so carnal that I think that's like where some of those people draw that line.
00:46:32
There's no pads, there's no big gloves.
00:46:36
Yeah, you could be right.
00:46:37
I just think it's not the greatest for me and my touched on something that that I try and touch on a lot when I'm like when people talk about rankings and things like that, your quality of opposition.
00:46:49
So I still think Anderson Silva to Vitor Belfort is gonna be tough to top because that's a technique that hadn't been used a t least not at that level.
00:47:00
It decided a title fight.
00:47:02
It took.
00:47:03
I mean, Anderson Silva was always a star.
00:47:05
Guys, he was He was, Ah, solid name of pride.
00:47:08
And then he came over to the U F.
00:47:09
C and kind of great debut against leaving.
00:47:11
He defeated Franklin.
00:47:13
But he wasn't that pay per view star that that we all came to know him, as I think that was break out, woman So against, uh, you know, one of a legend and Vitor Belfort.
00:47:24
You know, I think a lot of people would say That's you know, I remember our colleague financial process.
00:47:28
Our former colleague used to always say that like that Anderson Silva, Vitor Belfort Flight is probably the biggest enemy fight in Brazilian history, you know? So there's that but the significance of that as well.
00:47:38
So yeah, I mean, I think that that definitely means a lot.
00:47:41
You see that kind of stuff happening when, like the lights are shining brightest, The Holly Holm Rhonda Rosie type of moment like that is hard to beat other than you know, compared Teoh a third fight of the night prelim on some random UFC card that they're, you know, in a stretch of their putting events on literally every single week.
00:47:58
So there's a lot of quantifiable measures.
00:48:01
But as I said earlier, you wanted to tell me You think that's the greatest knockout and U F C M M A history.
00:48:06
Whatever.
00:48:07
Bio Queen Buckley, I'm not gonna get into a too big of a debate with you.
00:48:10
Yeah, as long as it's in your top five Top 10 and we don't have a problem.
00:48:14
You know, it's anybody, that is.
00:48:16
It's not even in my top 10.
00:48:17
I'd be like, Wow, what are you looking at anyway? You think, man, there's so many of them when you think about we were at Number Korean Franklin.
00:48:25
We were there.
00:48:26
That one kind of written in your head.
00:48:28
Great left, right.
00:48:29
Wasn't it just You just went straight down, remember, and then categorize it as a knockout.
00:48:34
Yet if you categorize it as a some sort of a kick, I mean, that's Showtime Kick against Ben was spectacular, didn't knock him out, but it knocked him down.
00:48:43
And remember that fight, I think, was to to going into the fifth, so you could argue that that began the the process of him solidifying round Fine, which got him the belt means it's a big moment.
00:48:53
Um, you know, I know there's a lot of ways of breaking.
00:48:56
Not to mention Jorge Mas, but all in vain.
00:48:58
Aspirin, E e count.
00:49:04
Honestly, do you remember Cro Cop Gonzaga on how much hype with pro cop coming over from pride.
00:49:10
I mean, there's so many of them.
00:49:12
Well, and then, uh, like when he kicked Mark Coleman like that was big at the time.
00:49:19
Coleman was messing everyone up.
00:49:21
He got you down headbutted.
00:49:23
You do to your head.
00:49:24
Looks like your face look like hamburger.
00:49:26
You know what I mean? And refresh me here.
00:49:29
I'm having a blank.
00:49:31
Kevin Lee kicked.
00:49:32
Uh, and that was beautiful, guys.
00:49:36
I mean, I thought that was that was one of those moments where I mean, look, I don't want to get to more of it here, but John Morgan has said it before, and I think we've all come to accept some things Get bad will happen one day.
00:49:48
If you look at the history of boxing as yeah, talking that it hasn't already to this point, right? Where do you? When I saw that, I thought this could be it.
00:49:58
Like I was.
00:49:59
I didn't even have time to go.
00:50:00
Yes, because I bet leave that day.
00:50:02
I think Probably I was just like, what? Was he all right? Like? I mean, that was shocking, man, because you see these kicks where you're like, Whoa, is this guy gonna be alright on gone? Ooh and ovary and was the crazy 12 I remember being cage side for that.
00:50:15
Like that was another one.
00:50:16
She's not getting back up like there's there's so many to count these.
00:50:21
These ones were all mentioned in recent years.
00:50:24
I think one of my favorite ones back in the day was Gary Goodridge when he did the crucifix elbows with these weird stuff.
00:50:29
I can't remember which UFC dollars, but that's, like, craziest early knock out a week.
00:50:34
Did you just say that goes? What did you just say? The week now? That was another one.
00:50:39
This was right.
00:50:40
Somebody was elbowing Orlando Leak, Remember? Uh, Ramco Pardo.
00:50:44
But this one was Paul Herrera Herrera.
00:50:46
That's the guy that that brought tank Abbott and Tito Ortiz into the game.
00:50:50
If I'm not mistaken, he's like a wrestling coach in Huntington Beach.
00:50:54
Yeah, he got abused, man e.
00:50:57
I mean, here we are.
00:50:58
We're just talking.
00:50:59
Basically, you have seen all gets at this point, not to mention, you know, things that we got in pride and strike for us and these things over the years.
00:51:03
So it's like, sit there and make it definitive list of the best Mm.
00:51:07
A knockouts or even UFC ones would be a extremely tough task And that credit to anyone who wants to actually do that work because it stuff.
00:51:15
Hey, Mike, you're our social media guy at M M.
00:51:18
A junkie.
00:51:19
What's they were talking about? All these records that just keep getting broken.
00:51:23
Is it because the, you see took another step up? And so arguably, there's just more fans, which means more retweets and things like that.
00:51:30
He went out of his way to say that Adesanya and cost a believe had they broke some record, I think it was on the social media for not pay per views and Joakim Buckley that just that that one bit video alone, I think it's got the most views or something that most retweets and likes and something like that.
00:51:49
I don't know exactly what the numbers are, but I think last time I checked, like yesterday, there was something like 12 million views or something on that one clip, let alone all the other places. It's being shared.
00:51:59
Like I saw so many fighters posted that ko on their instagrams and like it was everywhere, man.
00:52:04
People were like they did the right thing because, you know, sometimes most situations, they won't show the finish or like little things like that.
00:52:11
They put it out there right away a day.
00:52:13
Didn't geo block it on a single accounts.
00:52:16
They put it on all of them, put all these different angles and stuff like that was about his viral of a knockout as it gets.
00:52:22
And I think in terms of what they were talking about, like the I think it was the views the retweets and likes on that one.
00:52:28
And yeah, for like a finishing clip.
00:52:30
I don't know if it was for any clip it all.
00:52:31
I think it may have bean.
00:52:33
I know when Dana was referencing the Izzy cost to stare down with, like the throwing of the white belt and all that nonsense, I think, he said.
00:52:40
That was their most viewed face off clip ever, which I think had surpassed the Habib and Connor at Wayne's when Connor, like, punched his hand down or whatever, you know.
00:52:51
So, yeah, I mean, that's very good for the UFC.
00:52:54
In terms of like getting that traction and have anythings spread everywhere like that, they want those viral moments and to get something like that is definitely good for their social media, Good for their brand.
00:53:04
And, um, you know, e hurt saw someone said yesterday US seniors to give a viral knockout bonus instead of, like, performance the nights like if you get a viral K like that Because, dude, if you someone else made a good point, I can't remember exactly.
00:53:18
It was off the top.
00:53:19
My head on Twitter, like that knockout is gonna be shown on UFC opens on their, you know, promo packs and everything for, like, the rest of time.
00:53:28
If not the next 10 5, 10 years or anything like that, he is helping them sell their product like you want to see how crazy UFC could be.
00:53:35
Look at this crazy spending.
00:53:36
Knock it.
00:53:37
He isn't getting residual checks and stuff every time they blast that out there.
00:53:40
So it would be nice if they threw a guy like that some extra cheese, especially because Dana White teased him to his face, saying, We might give you $200,000 and then they ultimately end up giving 50.
00:53:51
Yeah, there's gotta be some value in it.
00:53:52
And I guess since we got you here, can you explain, because that really is a curiosity of mine? I've done it before.
00:53:59
A cousin of mine from South America.
00:54:01
Or go, You got to see this and I'll hit it and it's blocked.
00:54:04
Geo blocked.
00:54:05
Why? Why would they do that? And why do companies do that? Why wouldn't they want to get it in his many in front of as many eyeballs? E think it usually just comes down to like television deals type of thing, you know, like there might be some places where it's not showing live or they just can't show the finish a certain way.
00:54:22
I think that's really what it comes down to, like they'll have, um, UFC basically has a Twitter account for, like, every country at this point right there, like UFC, Canada, U.
00:54:31
S E.
00:54:32
Asia, just the UFC normal on Australia.
00:54:34
So I think they'll just basically put the same clip up.
00:54:37
But they would geo block it, you know, toe within their area on Lee, I think, Yeah, a lot of it does come down to just like television rights, things like that.
00:54:46
There may be one country where the UFC is literally on their like paper views.
00:54:50
What we would have this paper views are on their TV for free.
00:54:53
So, like the ability toe replace stuff is a lot easier than here, where in the States they don't want to just give away a finish for free or whatever, because they're hoping someone will buy the paper view after the fact or, you know, watch on television or sign ups, ESPN.
00:55:07
Plus, there's just a lot of little elements, but I think they they have so many different deals at this point and, like kind of the rules about when you can re broadcast all that kind of stuff is just different for each individual country, and I think that's why they have you know the separate accounts for each of these different regions at this point.
00:55:25
But ultimately, when it goes out on the man UFC cal, you I think they usually allow it to go.
00:55:30
It's like most places, but I being up here in Canada, like anything ESPN Mm.
00:55:34
A tweets out.
00:55:35
I pretty much can't see because all that stuff Geo blocked within the United States.
00:55:39
So I think a lot of people have encountered that problem.
00:55:42
If you're smart enough, you can get around it.
00:55:45
But yeah, is with us.
00:55:47
All right, Let's see here.
00:55:50
We only have a few minutes left, so I'm gonna put bones and Adesanya to the side.
00:55:54
They twitter beef is escalating, but I just don't think that they're fighting each other.
00:55:58
Next check e I did with the last week, though.
00:56:02
It's still out. We went over lots of stuff there.
00:56:04
He was Great.
00:56:05
In fact, check out Mike Bond with Israel Adesanya and check out my bond with not until from Liverpool.
00:56:12
I was watching some of that today and he was all you haters out there.
00:56:17
He's learning from YouTube.
00:56:18
That's what he was telling like bond and goes was producing there.
00:56:21
That was a good one.
00:56:22
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00:56:29
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00:56:36
Uh, yeah, it's subscribed in there.
00:56:39
So I'm gonna put off the rest of the card because I look, it was important and there was some great fights and, you know, congrats to the Tom Breeze and Chris Dhaka's and all those others you know, Tom Aspen all they they look great.
00:56:53
They really did DDP.
00:56:55
They're calling him the other dude from South Africa.
00:56:57
I don't even wanna try his name. Du Plessis.
00:56:59
I believe, uh, them so love in a second.
00:57:02
But hey, the lightweight division guys is hot.
00:57:05
It is popping.
00:57:06
If McGregor employees official Chandler, still waiting to fight it was still willing to fight Ferguson in 2 48.
00:57:13
But it's probably not gonna happen.
00:57:14
How do you guys want things that out unfold from here? Remember Charles Oliveras, a player Marcus Sheff still wants to fight it to 48 r d a dropped down the toe.
00:57:25
1 55 was willing to fight Marcus Sheff before he got co vid.
00:57:28
But it's everything starts to play out in this next cycle of fights that get made.
00:57:32
How do you guys want? How do you guys want this to play out? Go ahead, Mike.
00:57:36
And then goes, I think it depends really so much on who wins the Habib and Gay chief fight like if gaity wins, then I assume he'll be able probably get a rematch, and then that holds things up a lot.
00:57:49
I just want progression in this division.
00:57:51
I mean, it's immensely frustrating how few title fights like undisputed title fights we've had over the past few years.
00:57:57
There's been like three since I even maybe even less since I Connor McGregor beat Eddie Alvarez for the undisputed belt.
00:58:04
There's been a lot of interim title fights in there, so I just want to see the momentum.
00:58:07
You could book them up.
00:58:08
However you want to honestly like I would love to see Peoria and Connor do that rematch.
00:58:13
I don't know if it's actually gonna happen.
00:58:16
We'll see in these next few days and weeks or whatever, if they're gonna be able to pull the trigger for November and December.
00:58:21
But yeah, man, when it comes to light way, you could literally just pick names at a hat and match them up.
00:58:25
And you're like, in the top 10.
00:58:26
15 and you're gonna have some great matchups there.
00:58:29
But I guess if you're just kind of looking at that very, very talk to me, it makes sense.
00:58:33
You know, gay CI, Habib, Connor, Dustin Ferguson, Chandler, Dan Hooker and Charles all there.
00:58:40
That's how I do those top guys.
00:58:41
Do you think could be really gets a rematch? I mean, if it's a close fight, especially if it's controversial.
00:58:47
But, I mean, if the ice is, um Do do you think you see still puts them in there? I mean, any chance to get the UFC wants to shove McGregor into a title fight? McGregor would be epic.
00:58:57
I think you're right on that front.
00:58:58
I think they would maybe try to do that because ideally, I'm sure they're scenario would be, say, G B two b.
00:59:04
You could put Connor in there of Connor beats dhe, and then you did the Habib Khan a rematch with Habib challenging Connor for the title of this time.
00:59:13
And he Connor has all the power and all that kind of stuff.
00:59:16
So I'm sure that would be, like kind of the dream scenario.
00:59:18
I mean, in all honesty, I'm sure they prefer just Habib.
00:59:21
Winds make you do the rematch right there because you still want the undefeated heavy with all that stuff.
00:59:25
But yeah, I do think he's earned his rematch.
00:59:29
I did.
00:59:30
However, it goes what he's done in the UFC, his title reign.
00:59:33
And then you look at what he means that UFC in terms of the Russian market and stuff they don't do pay per views mid afternoon guys, when it comes to, you know, international markets, they're doing it because I think that would be poor if I did like 30 million viewers in Russia or something.
00:59:47
So there, you know, he the weight he carries over there, Yeah, he may not sell, you know, two million paper views on ESPN plus, but what he's bringing in on the other side on his side of the world and the revenue of the UFC still makes off that more than makes up.
01:00:00
The difference goes.
01:00:02
Do you wake up every day hoping? Ferguson says.
01:00:04
Alright, I'll be your Huckleberry and fight you at 2 48.
01:00:07
Michael Chandler.
01:00:08
Or is it too close? Would you just rather G import and Uh huh B fight? Chandler gets his payday, and then Chandler versus Ferguson sometime in December.
01:00:18
Is, is that more ideal? What do you What say you? Yeah, because I mean, I want to see these fighters at their best, and really, I think under that scenario, I don't like it.
01:00:28
I'd rather just let this play out and then let's rebook him.
01:00:31
Give him full camps because, look, man Michael Chandler, he's training and all that, but he's training for two opponents.
01:00:39
He's got Tony Ferguson on his mind over a year.
01:00:42
I don't want to see him take a fight like that on short notice like this.
01:00:45
I want him.
01:00:46
I want him to make his debut be the most prepared guy.
01:00:48
But I'll tell you what, That Tony Ferguson matchup of all the guys that I'm looking at in that division, that's probably one of the tougher matchups for Michael Chandler.
01:00:57
Okay, and then one more while the Connor poi talk We're all we have to do is wait two weeks.
01:01:03
And if hubby wins, there's gonna be some sort of a call out.
01:01:07
Won't Connor say, uh, Dustin, I'll still give you 500 grand or whatever it was we agreed to, but now I'm fighting Hopi like e.
01:01:15
I mean, um, I the only one that sees that like they actually they said the U.
01:01:19
C sent out contracts and everything, but I find it hard to believe people would not fight Connor McGregor if he wins.
01:01:26
Andi, this is no disrespect, Topia.
01:01:29
It's just the U C cells.
01:01:31
These monster fights, they they obsess over.
01:01:35
Yeah.
01:01:36
I mean, as far as I know, no contract with officially being issued toe either corner or Dustin for any of the dates for January 23 for December 12 for November 21st.
01:01:47
I believe it is u S C t 55.
01:01:49
So, yeah, I said this meeting Simon Samana are managing.
01:01:53
I entered it kind of a reaction video and all this stuff happened on Thursday or Friday or whenever it waas.
01:01:59
Um and I basically said, Yeah, like that's the big part to me that doesn't really make sense.
01:02:04
Stay in the white has said since January or since January when Corner the Donald Cerrone, he said at the press conference.
01:02:10
Like ideally, you know, we want him to be fighting for the title.
01:02:13
At that point, we thought the scenario would be Ferguson and be fighting in April.
01:02:18
Hubby would do Ramadan.
01:02:19
They would fight in September when he comes back.
01:02:21
And Connor is like, Oh, I have to wait till September.
01:02:23
Oh, no, Like we weren't really too stoked on that idea, having to keep him out that long.
01:02:28
But there's at this point we're so close to it, help you engage.
01:02:33
You happening? Why would you? Not way It is, you know.
01:02:35
What is it 10 days at this point or something like that? Maybe a little bit less or a little bit more 12 days.
01:02:40
So that's the point to me, like you've waited this long with Connor and you've got him into this position.
01:02:46
You're gonna book him for a fight now, the soon before it happens to me, that's the part where I think it brings a lot in.
01:02:52
And someone else said to me, I think it was Dani Shapiro who you guys know made an interesting point on Twitter and saying that the reason they probably want Card to fight in January is because a lot of people maybe signed up for ESPN plus for the first time to buy Cowboy and Connor McGregor back in January.
01:03:09
And their one year subscription will conveniently run out right a week before.
01:03:14
Connor McGregor happens to fight again, and that brings you in and other things, and I know you may laugh, and that means to some people, sound like Thio makes sense.
01:03:22
It makes all the sense in the world I'm laughing because it does make sense.
01:03:26
In fact, let me hit you guys with another one.
01:03:28
Hopefully, someone else hasn't said this, and I'm not repeating it.
01:03:32
Um, I think Conner this whole season, you know, when he fought a cowboy and he goes, is my season.
01:03:38
I think he wanted to get three.
01:03:39
And if he finished guys fast, maybe even the fourth.
01:03:43
Oh, he really wants that top of the Forbes list, I'm telling you, and he no can outduel Ronaldo and Messi.
01:03:50
If you could get about three of those in and remember, Mayweather is kind of out of the way.
01:03:55
That's the guy that crushes everybody.
01:03:57
I think that's really something he's always obsessed with, and that's just like a power and ego thing.
01:04:03
So I thought, Why do you wanna do December? Whatever you made versus Cowboy, what you'll make in December? Unless Toby, I don't think it's gonna pass those soccer guys or even the big time N b A.
01:04:14
Guys, because they lump in your endor*****ts and your your salary, why not wait till January and and see if it can? If everything lines up for you, the for you, then And maybe you could get those three fights in one year, then and then for sure, I think it be hard to argue you wouldn't be at the top of the Forbes list.
01:04:34
Yeah, it's possible.
01:04:36
Well, I actually thought was really interesting.
01:04:38
I listened to an interview.
01:04:39
Dust imported did today.
01:04:40
I think it was maybe recorded like yesterday, the day before on Teddy Atlas's podcast, and he said he thinks Connor is trying to fight him because he is a southpaw, boxing based fighter, and it would help him prepare to go into a boxing match with Manny Pacquiao, the preparation and all that kind of stuff.
01:04:58
So I thought that was an interesting that Dustin, I don't know how much truth there is.
01:05:02
I don't know what he actually knows that made him think that.
01:05:04
But when he said it, I was like Huh, That is pretty interesting.
01:05:07
So hey, came prepared on sports management.
01:05:12
Connor McGregor's management companies.
01:05:13
So I thought he had already signed with Paradigm, like a couple of years ago.
01:05:16
But it sounds like he they agreed on something like it looked like something outside of just, you know, part of their management are part of them being part of his management team.
01:05:26
It looks like there was some sort of another agreement.
01:05:28
There was something weird going on because I know when the first corner came out announcing he was fighting Manny Pacquiao and whatever December in Saudi Arabia, which it's kind of funny, how quickly that went into boxing bust Emporia in a charity match in Ireland, you know, which is basically supposed to be at the same time.
01:05:46
But nevertheless, um, yeah, I think there's a lot of different elements.
01:05:51
That and I think Corner is just trying to keep himself out there, and Dustin wants that foot, but yeah, I don't really I don't really know what's gonna happen here.
01:06:00
You guys think Michael chef's gonna get a fight? I This guy doesn't fight very often.
01:06:05
I'd love for him to stay on the card.
01:06:06
I don't care who they shove in there, but I don't think he will.
01:06:10
There's not a lot of people that raised their hand for that fight.
01:06:13
Yeah, go out 100 grand to his pay if he takes the market shop fight.
01:06:19
Yeah, another 100 grand if he wins, right? He did center.
01:06:23
I believe so. Yeah.
01:06:24
Uh, so they put up 200 so I don't know.
01:06:27
I mean, I think they could get someone for Makhashev like there's probably a lightweight out there that's willing to fight him, whether they're in the UFC already or not.
01:06:35
But it's it's most certainly not going to be the type of fight we want for him at this point and not going to be our d a quality.
01:06:42
So that that was a pretty unfortunate fall off that one.
01:06:44
And hopefully rds feeling all right after the code.
01:06:47
Yeah, Alright, guys, We're in a little lower.
01:06:50
Don't think that's the end of the world.
01:06:52
Thanks, Mike Bond for stopping by Mike Bond.
01:06:55
Mm, a folks.
01:06:56
He's a great follow on Twitter, one of the best in the business.
01:06:59
He was nominated for best journalist this year.
01:07:02
The world of the main awards.
01:07:03
I believe they said when When everything drive you in October when they were gonna maybe possibly even have a show.
01:07:11
But, Cove, it is this wild card, you know, that's preventing anybody from making any types of plans that involves, like, the type of setting of oven Award show.
01:07:19
So I don't know if they'll just do something virtual or what.
01:07:22
I'm gonna see if I could get with CEO of fighters, only Rob Hewitt and have him come on the show and explain what they're gonna do.
01:07:28
But Mike is included along with John Morgan for best journalists.
01:07:32
I tell you to cast the vote with the voting process has already ended.
01:07:34
Unless you want to go in there.
01:07:35
Maybe you could sneak a couple in there if, uh, in case that hasn't closed.
01:07:40
But Mike Thanks, man.
01:07:42
Thanks for joining us today.
01:07:43
We really appreciate it.
01:07:44
happy Thanksgiving in Canada.
01:07:46
Thank you. Yeah.
01:07:47
And, uh, we'll talk to you soon.
01:07:49
Sounds good, guys. Thanks for having me.
01:07:51
Alright.
01:07:52
See it and goes and I are gonna bounce on out of here.
01:07:54
Um, you know, again, we are coming off a high.
01:07:57
The Los Angeles Lakers won their historic 17 title, and I mean, it doesn't get any better than that.
01:08:05
I think both of our teams got squashed in the NFL, so we were down in the dumps until Sunday night goes.
01:08:11
Did you see Staples Center? They're going crazy over there.
01:08:13
Yeah, that's supposedly if you listen to the police scanners, it's pretty nutty.
01:08:19
63 arrests.
01:08:21
I would Kobe It might be a tame version.
01:08:23
Just kind of like, you know, I love l A planet blasting through some speakers or something like that and everyone go home, but alcohol and youth, they just don't mix.
01:08:35
You know what I mean? You're a crazy story.
01:08:38
Once of a parade, right? You almost died.
01:08:42
What was your tunnel? Um it was a victory parade and I we were getting shot at with rubber bullets and eso.
01:08:52
We've started running me and a buddy Andrew and everybody said this way, you know, they all ran left, so we thought we'd be slick and go. Let's go. Right.
01:09:02
You know, the police in my ward? Yeah.
01:09:05
The police will follow those guys.
01:09:07
So we ran right, and we ended up running into, like, a little bit of a dead end.
01:09:12
So we had to go around, come back down, and then we were walking through a tunnel and then all of a sudden, that whole mob, which had to have at least been to 300 people It was like the running of the bulls.
01:09:23
They were all coming our way, and it was just us to, and we had to kind of, like, get up against the wall.
01:09:29
And just because they were getting shot with rubber bullets.
01:09:32
So they were running, running like it was a stampede, almost got crushed.
01:09:37
I think it would make sense to join them, wouldn't it? If they're running away from rubber bullets, I know Well, the pack is running, but you know, there's only a few in the back there, probably even possible, could get shot.
01:09:49
It's just they're all running at the same time.
01:09:51
Yeah, folks, if you haven't seen the Warriors is a great scene, and their leader clean on says, Run against the grain or something like that.
01:09:58
Alright, we gotta get on out of here.
01:10:00
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01:10:01
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01:10:02
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